CONGRESS MUST KICK INVESTIGATIONS INTO HYPERDRIVE
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Hunter Biden gets a sweetheart deal, no jail time, and it looks like just exactly what House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer called it, a slap on the wrist. Joining us now is former top official of the Defense Department Chief of Staff for the House Intel Chairman Devin Nunes and federal prosecutor Cash Patel.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you
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with us. We all knew it was coming, and now, here it is. The corrupt plea deal for President
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Joe Biden's son. The corrupt Justice Department announcing the sweetheart deal for a member
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of the Biden crime family, while President Trump is facing simultaneously two criminal
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indictments, two civil cases, and two more criminal cases pending as the Marxist Dems and Deep State
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ramp up their political persecution of President Trump. It's all maddeningly outrageous. President
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Trump posted the following on his true social account after learning of the deal. Quote,
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Wow, the corrupt Biden DOJ just cleared up hundreds of years of criminal liability
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by giving Hunter Biden a mayor traffic ticket. Our system is broken. And Trump, of course,
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is absolutely right. Hunter Biden's attorney, Chris Clark, on MSNBC to talk about the plea deal
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soon after the decision was announced. The prosecutors are not asking for jail time. Are
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you concerned that the judge here might freelance? I think, you know, look, there are documents that
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haven't been publicly released yet. I think people have reported what the product prosecutors are
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asking for. I think you have to wait till the court proceeding happens to know. But, you know,
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I think the judge is going to do what's fair. And I think what's fair is, you know, my client gets on
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with his life. Do you have an idea of what the conditions are going to be? Is he going to be on
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probation? It's up to the court. My expectation, at least with regard to after that proceeding is
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he'll be released with without conditions. But, you know, what the ultimate disposition of the case
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is going to be up to the judge. And just over a month ago, President Biden sat down for an interview
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with, of course, MSNBC and repeated the same lie he spewed since the 2020 presidential debates
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that his son did nothing wrong. Sir, there is something personal that's affecting you. Your
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son, while there's no ties to you, could be charged by your Department of Justice. How will that impact
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your presidency? First of all, my son's done nothing wrong. I trust him. I have faith in him. And it
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impacts my presidency by making me feel proud of him. Proud of a man who used his father's position as
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vice president to leverage millions of dollars, perhaps tens of millions from foreign nations and
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businesses. Proud of his son who had to be brought to court in Arkansas. Proud of his son who had to
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be brought to court in Arkansas to force him to pay his delinquent child support payments. Proud of a
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man whose leaked laptop revealed the Biden crime family's corrupt criminal dealings and a man living
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a life of drug abuse and prostitution. The U.S. attorney for the District of Delaware, David Weiss,
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issued the following statement about the tax and firearm charges, quote, the investigation is
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ongoing, end quote. His last statement meant to provide, of course, more protection and a shield
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for the Biden crime family, while any ordinary American charged with the same crimes would be
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on their way to prison. Remember what special counsel Jack Smith and Attorney General Merrick Garland
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said? No man is above the law. They obviously lied, as is customary for the Biden regime.
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Joining us now is Cash Patel, former top official of the Defense Department Chief of Staff for the
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House Intel Chairman Devin Nunes and federal prosecutor. Cash, great to have you back with us on the Great
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America Show. Let's start with this long-awaited deal. We knew it was coming. Hunter Biden gets a
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sweetheart deal, no jail time, and it looks like just exactly what House Oversight Committee Chairman
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James Comer called it, a slap on the wrist. Well, Lou, it is, as always, great to be with you,
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and I wish we were talking about not the destruction of our justice system, but rather the lifting up of
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it. But here, front and center, we have the complete disparate treatment of an individual because he
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happens to be the son of Joe Biden. And I don't say that as an epitaph. I say that as a former federal
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public defender who represented hundreds of minorities in the Southern District of Florida
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on this exact gun-related charge. And these individuals were sentenced to three to five years
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in federal prison. Never was one given pre-trial diversion based on a retroactive drug addiction.
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In what universe is the DOJ changing their regulations because it applies, they want to
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apply the law differently? In this one, in Merrick Garland's DOJ, Chris Ray's FBI, and of course,
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Joe Biden's administration. It's a sad day for justice, and I would just like to see where all
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the minorities in the left are screaming up and down about why their children, their sons,
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their fathers got launched to prison sentences. And this kid who happens to be a white man of a white
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son of a white attorney general. It ain't about race, but why are they allowing this to proceed?
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People are going to have a terrible perspective on this going forward.
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You know, I'm sure you're right. But at this point, I'm, frankly, I'm somewhat inured to it all.
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We've watched the president of the United States be politically persecuted by the Marxist
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Dems and the deep state as one attacking him without any sort of response from the American
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people or broadly and certainly not from the Republican Party. There's been some gnashing
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of teeth. There's been a minor whimper or whine, but nothing really is amounting to wailing about it.
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And here we are with exactly what we expected, what we were told to expect. And here it is
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in our faces, just like everything else they're doing, Cash. Why should we expect any, any separation
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from their conduct now and their conduct over the past eight years, for crying out loud?
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You're absolutely right. It's not a surprise. And I think that might be the only thing sadder
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than the two tier system of justice we see on display, like you outlined week after week,
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month after month. We see another example by the same architects of the Russiagate hoax
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who are now running the OJ and FBI perpetuating the same crimes of the American public. And it is
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unfortunately not a surprise, but they do it time and time again because they get away with it
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and their culprit partners in the media allow them to get away with it. And then they let you
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allow themselves to use it all to rig presidential elections. And I think at the end of the day,
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that's what a lot of this was about. They wanted to get the narrative out there
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to the fake news that, oh, look, we prosecuted a sitting president's son. We'll go after anyone.
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Well, in the manner in which you did, you might as well not have gone after him. You might as well
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given him a Christmas gift, which is actually what they did. And he won't see a day of jail time.
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And you're right. You called it. I called it months ago on Truth Social when I said all of this would
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be wrapped up into one plea agreement. But the kicker is what they put at the end of the plea
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agreement with this US attorney saying, quote, the investigation is ongoing, end quote. And all that
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is to me is a shield for FBI and DOJ to continue to say to congressional leadership, no, no, no. As we put
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out in public, the investigation is ongoing, we cannot give you any documents related to Hunter
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Biden, Joe Biden, the Biden crime family syndicate or anything else, because we, the Justice Department,
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who are totally corrupted, are looking at this now. Looking at it and looking in the
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and the Delaware US attorney has been looking at this for five years, maybe longer, as a matter of
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fact. But five years, they've slow rolled this investigation. They've stonewalled. They have
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absolutely procrastinated in every sense of the word. They've dragged their heels, whatever the
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expression is you would like to use. They are as corrupt as any part of the Department of Justice
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in the US attorney's office. Are they not? They are. And I know most of them. I used to serve
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with a lot of them, not just in the in D.C., but against them when I was a federal public defender
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in Miami. And that's the troubling part, as if there wasn't a troubling parts to all of this,
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one more layer of it, is it's the same individuals. It's Lisa Monaco rising through the ranks to be the
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number two at DOJ, who used to be in the Obama Justice Department and helped run his law enforcement
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operation. And she authorized under her auspices the now number three, John Carlin,
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at DOJ to launch then the Russiagate investigation. And of course, we've seen the FBI agents involved,
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and now we see the other prosecutors involved on the president's case, that is President Trump,
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who are all running in the same exact circle. Love Joe Biden. Hate President Trump. Give tons of
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money to the Democrats. Give zero to the Republicans. Stock your teams with anti-Trump personnel across the
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board and then sell the phony, fake narrative that somehow one system of laws applies to everyone in
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the United States of America. No one's buying it except the people that are selling it and the media
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that there are in bed with them. And I think and I've told many people this, this two tiered system
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of justice is not only going to destroy America, but it's going to be the one thing that unites us,
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justice. I believe in the polls, because it's not a right wing conspiracy anymore.
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Well, the good news and in this moment, I can't say that there is any good news associated with the
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Department of Justice whatsoever. But in this moment are the polls that show despite the the egregious
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abuse of power by the Department of Justice, the FBI, the Biden White House, the Biden regime,
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the president, the president of the United States. That is Donald J. Trump is crushing it in the polls.
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And that has to be driving the the rhino Republicans. And of course, the Marxist
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Dems and their allies in the deep state. Absolutely nuts. Your thoughts?
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I think if they weren't already being driven to the moon, now they're going to be driven to Pluto.
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Now, this indictment or plea agreement of Hunter Biden is not going to reverberate well in the
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political spaces. In my opinion, it is going to be another example when you juxtaposition it the
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very next week after Donald Trump was indicted unlawfully, I believe, as do many Americans
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reflected in this poll. They're just going to say this is another advancement of the two tier system
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of justice. They're not going to come in and say, oh, America is on the road to recovery in the rule
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of law and the de-weaponization of law enforcement. They're going the other way. And so I'm betting on
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Congress to go big and expose more of their corruption. But that's going to be a tough fight.
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It is a tough fight. It's now been going on for five months. We're going to ask Cash Patel here next.
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Next, why is it more being done to roll back the weaponization of this government to reveal more
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of the individuals responsible for that weaponization? As we continue with Cash Patel,
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you're next on The Great America Show. Stay with us. We're coming back in just moments.
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We're back now talking with one of the truly great Americans, Cash Patel, doing a lot for this
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country and also for President Trump. Cash, again, it's great to have you with us. Let's turn to
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the House investigating committees, that is House Oversight, House Judiciary, and the subcommittee
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that the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Jim Jordan, is also leading the weaponization
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subcommittee. Your thoughts about the level of success and the impact of what they've done
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in the first five months of the 118th Congress? I think, look, having done the Russiagate
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investigation and knowing how feckless congressional leadership can be at times trying to advance the
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truth and constitutional oversight. They've done a pretty good job so far. And Kevin McCarthy has
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allowed them to proceed. But I think they need a shot of, you know, whatever it is that gets them
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going at twice the rate of speed because they're allowing themselves to be deflected by irrelevant
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red herrings from the FBI. Stop writing letters and stop asking nicely for things and subpoena them.
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That's what they did to us. That's what the January 6th Committee taught us. It is no
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nice, no longer a day of pleasantries in Washington, D.C. when you're trying to root out
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evil corruption. And so what these folks need to do, in my opinion, is give Hunter Biden immunity
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across the board from Congress and then force him into a subpoenaed position to produce all the
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documents relating to all the schemes and frauds. And then we'll really see what's what, because I
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don't want to wait for this DOJ to tell me in 15 years that their investigation of Hunter Biden
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is concluded in 2047. And so Congress must send out more subpoenas of not just this, but Durham.
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He's now testifying that today and tomorrow in Congress. They got to go into warp speed on why
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John Durham didn't subpoena all of the actual government gangsters for Russiagate. I'm talking
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Strzok, Comer, Comey, Page, Priestap and all the other, you know, Charles Dolan and Fusion GPS and
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everybody else. And why didn't he use compulsory process to advance his investigation of righteous
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misconduct at the FBI? But the DOJ allows a slow walk, sweetheart plea deal with Hunter Biden. These
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are questions only Congress can answer. And they really got to buckle down on how they use subpoenas
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to stick this thing into hyperdrive. I have I happen to believe that the swamp right now
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is rising in D.C. And what we are seeing, it can only be explained by some of those remote patches
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now moving toward the center that is to Capitol Hill and having great influence over what is
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transpiring. I hate to say it, but these committees are working too slowly now. Yeah. And I warned about
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this. I warned about this as the 118th Congress formed. And I want to just repeat for the audience
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and remind everybody what I said. I said these committees have until June, not July, not August
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or September to actually develop evidence and actionable, actionable knowledge and intelligence
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about what has transpired in this administration. We have not gotten there. And it and I have begged the
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Republicans not to get involved in that stupid debt ceiling debate argument, whatever you want to call
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it. It was an attempted suicide on the part of the Republican Party, because all it did was distract
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and deflect. And the Republicans have never won that debate, that argument or that particular tactic
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ever in the history of the Congress. Partial wins a couple of times, but nothing that made the
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deflection and distraction from their primary job that they were doing so well out in the first three
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months, took away the momentum, took away the public attention. And the chairman right now look to me as
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though they are not certain of where to go from here. Your thoughts.
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Luke, you are a master at understanding how D.C. works and to be able to fold in the conversation of the
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debt ceiling, which is way out of my wheelhouse, but fold in how they used it as a bludgeoning and
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blocking instrument at the same time just shows you how this Republican leadership is being handled
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by the minority in the House of Representatives. And I think that position, I agree with you,
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needs to change. The documents have to be subpoenaed, not so that Congress can sit on them,
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but so that the American public can have them. They are there to serve us. We know this DOJ and FBI will
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never release the information of actual corruption, but we did it during Russiagate. And if a guy like
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me and a guy like Devin Nunes can go in there and root out the FBI's most corrupt criminal crime
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syndicate internally in U.S. history, then why can't these men and women who are way smarter than us
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do it now? It is either a lack of will or it is a part on the Republican masses to somehow occupy the
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time on the floor with meaningless measures. And as you pointed out, debt ceiling votes to prevent
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America from getting the 1023 on Hunter Biden and the source documentation reporting that shows
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the millions of dollars that have been sent from the CCP to Chinese cutouts to the Biden family.
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Why don't we know about the credible reporting and the brave whistleblowers who are exposing this?
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They are being mercilessly attacked at the whims of Congress, and Congress is doing nothing to
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protect them. Rather, you have individuals in the private sector who are trying to help them out
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when possible. So I don't know where it's going. And we saw some of these Republicans muster against
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a vote to reprimand Adam Schiff. Not really sure I understand that one, Lou, but that seems to be
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just another example of the cowardice in the Republican caucus by some, not all and not nearly many,
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that prevent, I think, the goals that you and I want them to achieve.
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Yeah. Let me make, I agree with everything you've said, and I want to make an aside here.
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When you mentioned the 20 who sold out the caucus, the conference,
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there is no explanation that is satisfactory for what they did. I listened to Massey and his
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libertarian nonsense. He's a blathering fool, pretending that he has some sort of structure of
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logic and reason. It's bizarre, it's ridiculous, and he needs to get rid of the rimless glasses,
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because he looks like a really a defunct, semi-intellectual. I am just so sick of that
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kind of preposterous posing on the part of these thick-headed rhinos. They are what they are,
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and they need to be straightened out. And shame on McCarthy for not making certain they stood
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with principle and with the American people. And damn their hides is all I can say.
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I want to get your sense of a couple of things. And that is, we know the power of this Congress.
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We know the rules that were changed because of the brave 20. There's, I guess, the yin and yi yang of it.
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We have the 20 who sold them out in June, and the 20 who in January made it possible for this to be
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a powerful Congress, a responsible Congress. But why won't these Republicans, this Speaker of the House,
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drop the hammer, defund the corrupt FBI, go after the individuals, and make known the fact that they
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are going to take these people to account in this corrupt Biden regime? We're going to have Cash's
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answer to that question on the other side of this quick break. We'll be right back talking with Cash
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Patel. Stay with us. We're back with Cash Patel. And I want to just say again, Cash, you know, I thank
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you for all that you've done for this country and what you've done for President Trump over the years
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for the American people. Why won't these Republicans, who were billed as the salvation
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for the Republican Party and the Republic, when they came in, they're now dithering. Why won't they
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go to work and actually pull the pin and use the weapons, the tools they have to halt the corrupt
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Biden regime? It's always great to be with you, Lou, and I appreciate that. Look, this is going to be
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pretty harsh, especially from a guy who's in government for 16 years and served in every branch
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of our government. But the reason Congress fails is put quite simply, they fail to put the mission
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first. And they put their egos just like so many of these government gangsters first, the ones running
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these agencies that are at DOJ, FBI, DOD, CIA, and elsewhere. And when you do that, you have an institution
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like Congress, who will rather fight each other tooth and nail on the Republican side to make
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sure they win 1% of 1% of 1% rather than unify a shared public interest around 80%. And that's
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what costs us at election cycles. And that's what costs us in the House of Representatives that the
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Republicans now have the majority. They would rather tear each other down and or be the singular person
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who gets the next big TV show than actually do the darn work that they need to be doing. And I hate
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to be the one that says that, but I don't have a problem saying that anymore because like you,
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I'm tired of them failing to serve the American people. Why is it so hard for them in leadership
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to crank out the subpoenas, to get us the documents, to take away the government funding
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from these government gangsters at the FBI DOJ, which will make them heal? Why won't they do it?
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Instead, they're out there talking about now who's going to be on the on the primetime circuit tonight,
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now that Hunter Biden's been indicted. Who cares? Go to work. Get back in the halls of Congress.
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You need a list of people to subpoena? Call me. You want an investigative roadmap? Call me.
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Or just look at my true social profile. I've pretty much had it with most of them. There's a
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select few that are doing a lot against a lot. And it's the against a lot part that I am the most
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problem with because they unify for some reason against our own movement at too many times. And the
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people that are hurt the most, not them, they'll get their lucrative contracts. They'll go on TV.
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They'll sell books. The people that are hurt the most are everyday Americans across this country,
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which you, Lou, have been looking out for for decades. And I really hope they start listening
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to you because otherwise we're in for a really rough ride until 2024. Well, I think and that ride
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has begun. And I thank you for the kind words and same back to you. Senator Grassley talking about the
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FD 1023 document, the basis upon which we learned what an informant and a whistleblower had been
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saying, implicating President Biden and Hunter once again in what amounted to a $10 million
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bribe scheme. Grassley spoke from the Senate floor, which, as everyone I think knows, protects the
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speaker. Why isn't the House using the same convention, which provides many, not as thoroughly
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as the Senate, but many of the same protections? And why in the world won't either the Senate or the
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House take up the issue of real protection for these whistleblowers who are in the national security,
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i.e., intelligence divisions of the division of the FBI? Because many people don't understand
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those whistleblowers don't have the protection that is given to any other employee of the federal
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government. Your thoughts? You're right. The whistleblowers are to be commended for providing
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credible reporting. And it's the only reason that Senator Grassley was able to catch the director of
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the FBI, Chris Wray, lying to United States Senator. And you know this, Lou. Chris Wray actually
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told the world and Grassley that this FD-1023 never existed, does not exist. And then a brave
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whistleblower comes on and says, wait a second, it does exist. And Chris Wray, you're not that stupid.
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Your leadership team around you wanted to wormhole this thing because it shows the Biden crime family
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syndicate and their bribery scheme from the CCP all the way back to the United States of America. And they
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knew that as a result of this informant who's been on the FBI books for decades. That's not
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Kash Patel saying it. That's the FBI's own admission about how credible this individual has reported over
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the source of years, over the course of years, on multiple investigations and been paid hundreds of
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thousands of taxpayer money for doing it. That's how confidential human sources work. And that's why they
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don't want to turn over the document. And that's why then they do finally at the 11th hour when Chris Wray should
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have been impeached a long time ago to force this. They redact out the information saying, wait a second,
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there's audio recordings involved. Why doesn't Congress have that? Because Congress doesn't have
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the spine right now to go in. And I'm not saying defund the entire FBI loop, but I pulled this maneuver
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once because Paul Ryan would only let me do it once during Russiagate. But I fenced money at Congress for
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DOJ. And you just got to take their fancy new toys. You take their $10 million for their fleet of
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escalates. You take their $50 million for Chris Wray's private jet. And you do things like that and they will
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come to bend the knee because they cannot act without our taxpayer money. And that's the only thing these
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government gangsters care about. And until you squeeze that button, that orange, you ain't getting any juice. And this
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Republican leadership has just been wanting to do it. And I don't understand it. I have been their biggest cheerleader day in and day out.
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But now we're at the summer of 23. We're on the verge of American Independence Day on the 4th of July.
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And we don't have the forms from the FBI on the Hunter Biden probe. We don't have the documents from
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John Durham's investigation exposing the actual criminality. And most of all, we don't have the
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forms that we were supposed to get that President Trump declassified on the way out of office
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or involving Russiagate and other matters because the DOJ charged him with a bogus charge to say,
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you can never release these documents. It is not a coincidence that they bury the truth. And we
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do not have the warriors right now in Congress in its leadership to expose it to the American people.
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I will soon be starting to call them out by name on blast. I am almost at my wits end. But like you,
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Lou, I'm betting long on the United States of America and we got to fight for it. And if we have
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to shame our own into doing it, then so be it. Well, I'm going to say it right now. And because this is
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and I'd been thinking about it through from the moment we started the podcast. James Comer,
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the chair of the House Oversight Committee back down, perhaps at the pressure of the speaker
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and Speaker McCarthy, both of them backed away from continuing the contempt citation against
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Christopher Wray. That was a huge mistake. The Republicans have to stand up. I know they're
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unaccustomed to it. They lose their balance and they perhaps get vertigo just by being erect and
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standing up for principles. But they have done so much and come so far for them to fail now is
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absolutely outrageous. And Congressman Jim Jordan, the chair of the judiciary and the weaponization
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subcommittee has got to set the standard and and march forward. It has to happen and it has to happen
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now. As always, Cash, we give our guests the last word. Your concluding thoughts, if you will.
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Well, Lou, I'll keep it short. The stake of our republic. I mean, the the the continuation of
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our constitutional republic is at stake and the two tier system of justice cannot exist ever in
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the United States of America and certainly not in 2023. It exists in all three branches of government
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and Congress must expose it. Cash Patel, thanks for being with us here today. We really appreciate it.
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Always, always a great conversation. Your knowledge, your insight, precious to the republic and to all
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of us listening to you. Thanks so much for being with us. Cash Patel. Thank you, my friend.
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Cash Patel, a great American. And join us here tomorrow when our guest will be Senator Marsha Blackburn.
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