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00:01:22.240 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs.

00:01:24.500 Welcome to The Great America Show.

00:01:26.060 Thank you for joining us. Great to have you with us.

00:01:28.900 President Biden finally addressed the nation.

00:01:31.520 Biden addressed the Hamas attacks on Israel as Secretary of State Tony Blinken and Vice President Kamala Harris stood by his side.

00:01:40.420 Biden's remarks came after being in hiding since Sunday where he partied at a White House barbecue with live music as Hamas was attacking Israel and murdering hundreds of its citizens.

00:01:51.980 The puppet president reading off the teleprompter sounded more coherent than he has in a very long time, assuring the world that America's commitment to Israel remains strong.

00:02:04.020 You know, there are moments in this life.

00:02:06.640 I mean this literally when the pure, unadulterated evil is unleashed on this world. 0.97

00:02:15.720 The people of Israel lived through one such moment this weekend, bloody hands of the terrorist organization Hamas, a group whose stated purpose for being is to kill Jews.

00:02:31.600 This was an act of sheer evil, more than 1,000 civilians slaughtered, not just killed, slaughtered in Israel.

00:02:42.720 Among them, at least 14 American citizens killed, parents butchered, using their bodies to try to protect their children, stomach-turning reports of babies being killed, entire families slain, young people massacred while attending a musical festival to celebrate peace, to celebrate peace.

00:03:06.200 Women raped, assaulted, paraded as trophies, families hid their fear for hours and hours, desperately trying to keep their children quiet, to avoid drawing attention.

00:03:19.940 And thousands of wounded, alive but carrying with them the bullet holes and the shrapnel wounds and the memory of what they endured.

00:03:31.120 You all know these traumas never go away.

00:03:33.500 There are still so many families desperately waiting to hear the fate of their loved ones, not knowing if they're alive or dead or hostages, infants in their mother's arms, grandparents in wheelchairs, Holocaust survivors abducted and held hostage, hostages whom Hamas has now threatened to execute in violation of every code of human morality.

00:03:57.960 It's abhorrent.

00:03:58.960 It's abhorrent.

00:03:59.960 It's abhorrent.

00:04:00.960 The brutality of Hamas, his bloodthirstiness brings to mind the worst, the worst rampages of ISIS. 0.83

00:04:10.960 This is terrorism.

00:04:11.960 This is terrorism.

00:04:12.960 But sadly, for the Jewish people, it's not new.

00:04:17.960 This attack has brought to the surface painful memories and the scars left by a millennia of anti-Semitism and genocide of the Jewish people.

00:04:29.960 So in this moment, we must be crystal clear.

00:04:34.960 We stand with Israel.

00:04:37.960 We stand with Israel.

00:04:40.960 And we will make sure Israel has what it needs to take care of its citizens, defend itself and respond to this attack.

00:04:48.960 There's no justification for terrorism.

00:04:51.960 There's no excuse.

00:04:53.960 No excuse.

00:04:54.960 Biden didn't, however, mention that it was just last month that he stood with the terrorist nation of Iran as he swapped prisoners and allowed the release of $6 billion of frozen assets to be released to Iran.

00:05:09.960 I think President Biden may be finally getting the idea, however, a weak foreign policy in the Middle East is an invitation to disaster.

00:05:18.960 President Trump warned us back in August of this year, the release of that money to Iran would cause trouble for the Middle East and in particular trouble for Israel.

00:05:30.960 Crooked Joe Biden just agreed to pay a $6 billion ransom to the Iranian dictatorship in exchange for hostages.

00:05:38.960 This is yet another Biden surrender and a further blistering humiliation of the United States of America to the world stage.

00:05:46.960 But even worse, this decision will be extremely deadly.

00:05:49.960 Biden is giving $6 billion to the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, just as when Obama sent the Iranian regime pallets of cash for hostages in the dark of night.

00:06:01.960 Remember, plane loads of cash.

00:06:03.960 Biden's ransom payment will be immediately used to stoke violence, bloodshed and mayhem throughout the Middle East and all around the world, costing countless innocent lives.

00:06:14.960 It's also guaranteed that the fanatical Iranian regime will use this money to advance their nuclear weapons program, putting Israel, the United States and the entire world in very grave peril. 0.94

00:06:27.960 They are reportedly just weeks away from a nuclear bomb, something which would have never happened under the Trump administration.

00:06:35.960 Tragically, Biden's ransom payments also make it dramatically more likely that even more Americans will be held captive in the future because Biden has shown that he will pay gargantuan sums of money, meaning the kidnappers turn a massive profit.

00:06:50.960 They're making money hand over fist.

00:06:54.960 In other words, Biden has put a bounty on the head of every American citizen abroad.

00:06:59.960 Under my leadership, we brought home more than 50 hostages from all over the world, and we never paid ransom money to do it, not at all.

00:07:08.960 We did it with diplomacy, and we did it through strength, and we will do it again when we are reelected as president of the United States.

00:07:18.960 Our country is failing.

00:07:19.960 We are a failing nation.

00:07:21.960 We will turn it around and we will make America great again.

00:07:25.960 Thank you.

00:07:26.960 President Trump right as he usually is.

00:07:29.960 Turning now to the Biden crime family, the puppet president reportedly sat down with missing in action special counsel Robert Herr.

00:07:37.960 You know, the Biden special counsel, who we haven't heard from since his appointment last year.

00:07:43.960 Biden is said to have been interviewed by Herr Sunday and Monday about the classified documents found at his home from his time as senator and vice president.

00:07:54.300 And just yesterday, the National Archives revealed that more than 29,000 emails exist between Biden family business members and then-Vice President Joe Biden's office.

00:08:06.300 That information revealed in a FOIA request from America First Legal and revealed then-Vice President Joe Biden's office had almost 20,000 emails with Rosemont Seneca,

00:08:19.300 with Hunter Biden himself, with Jim Biden, and James Biden's Lion Hall Group.

00:08:25.300 Mr. Biden sure looks like he was very involved, up to his neck, in fact, with his son's business dealings.

00:08:33.300 And the battle on Capitol Hill to find the next Speaker of the House goes on.

00:08:37.300 As of right now, neither Steve Scalise or Jim Jordan reportedly have the votes from the conference to move forward as Speaker of the House.

00:08:45.300 I want to bring in now our guest today. He's one of the brave eight who voted to oust McCarthy.

00:08:51.300 Joining us now is Congressman Andy Biggs. Congressman, great to have you back with us on The Great America Show.

00:08:57.300 I want to get to the battle for Speaker in just a bit. I want to start first, if I may, with your view of the situation in the Middle East,

00:09:03.300 the way in which the Biden administration is responding.

00:09:07.300 So, obviously, what Hamas did was it's inhumane. They're barbarians. They're from another century. They're evil.

00:09:19.300 But let's talk about what fueled this. It is no secret or can be no surprise to anyone that Hamas took action within a short period of time after Iran was given $6 billion by this administration.

00:09:41.300 But let's let's forget about that for just one second, then come back to it.

00:09:45.300 We saw Hamas had been stepping up rhetoric for the last few months, and this is also the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur War.

00:09:53.300 So all of these indicated that there might have been some red flags, but there's no doubt that the $6 billion, but not just the $6 billion.

00:10:03.300 Don't forget that one of the very first things that Joe Biden did when he came in was to give back money and unfreeze money that Trump had frozen against the Iranians.

00:10:13.300 And what was the result of that? Well, Iran is one of the biggest state sponsors of terrorism in the world. 0.60

00:10:21.300 They are Hamas and Hezbollah are actually what I would call quasi governmental.

00:10:27.300 Would you say they're terrorist organizations?

00:10:29.300 Oh, absolutely. They're terrorist organizations.

00:10:32.300 First and foremost, they're terrorists. 0.99

00:10:34.300 Yes. We're watching, Congressman, if I may. 0.99

00:10:37.300 I'm so furious as I read the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal referring to these these terrorists as militants.

00:10:46.300 It is beyond appalling to see so-called journalists play appeasement games to couch and modify meaning to the point of obfuscation as to what they are and their intentions and their place in the world. 0.91

00:11:03.300 They're terrorists. 0.99

00:11:04.300 They're terrorists. They're barbarians. 1.00

00:11:07.300 They I mean, when I say this, they come from another century of they go back and they brought forth a hatred and they're what they're doing when you are encouraging the raping of women and then parading through the streets. 0.97

00:11:26.300 You're cutting off the heads of your enemy after you've captured them or the hostage taking of civilians.

00:11:33.300 There is not an ounce of mercy in the Hamas people. 1.00

00:11:38.300 And but that is that is their problem.

00:11:43.300 But we our government under Joe Biden facilitated that problem, Lou, and the media and people actually have people in Congress, Lou, that are championing and defending Hamas.

00:11:55.300 They are in the United States Congress.

00:11:58.300 They are in the United States Congress.

00:11:59.300 They continue to have the Palestinian flag hanging outside the wall of their office doors.

00:12:03.300 I mean, that we are at this point.

00:12:08.300 75 years after Israel was was formulated in 1948 is absolutely mind boggling to me.

00:12:18.300 And but don't forget to again, the Biden weakness has facilitated this.

00:12:23.300 So you've got the Taliban now asking if they can proceed through Iran to go in and help Hamas.

00:12:30.300 And what are they going to go in with American weaponry and ammunition material that was left behind by this really disastrous regime?

00:12:40.300 The the the the towns and the villages that were the victims of these terrorists who infiltrated three days ago, they now are cleaned out.

00:12:54.300 They're cleared out of all of the terrorists to Hamas and they and the IDF, the Israeli Defense Force, has already been in position for, I think, probably 24 hours.

00:13:05.300 They are preparing for obviously a major ground operation going into Gaza.

00:13:10.300 Bibi Netanyahu said that he would level Gaza.

00:13:15.300 I take him in his word.

00:13:17.300 I think that the man he looked to me like a man boiling inside.

00:13:21.300 He means for there to be retribution.

00:13:24.300 And the first thing that Tony Blinken, the secretary of state, had formulated and actually put out was were tweets calling for restraint on the part of Israel.

00:13:34.300 They've since been deleted.

00:13:37.300 And the administration is responding, sending the the Gerald Ford Task Force strike force into the region next to Israel, providing munitions.

00:13:48.300 So at this point, I think the administration is turned.

00:13:53.300 But what I don't understand is why we are tolerating any anyone who is calling for restraint on the part of Israel when this is their 9-11.

00:14:03.300 This is Pearl Harbor. 0.68

00:14:05.300 This is an an offense against everything true and holy.

00:14:10.300 What the Hamas terrorists did. 0.88

00:14:13.300 I think that they are exactly right.

00:14:15.300 They need to solve this problem.

00:14:18.300 And they they put up with it for far too long.

00:14:21.300 Yeah, I'll tell you, Lou, my sources and I and, you know, there's a lot of information flowing out and it's some of us conflicting.

00:14:31.300 But my sources tell me that Israel is not asking us to send them men and women in the military to come on and be side by side.

00:14:39.300 What they really want is they want to support the gravitas of the US behind them.

00:14:45.300 They're going what the one area that they might be helpful is if we could provide the coverage for civilian air flights to get out of out of Israel.

00:14:55.300 But but the bottom line is Israel is prepared to go alone. 0.67

00:15:00.300 And Blinken said on Sunday, this is the one thing he got right.

00:15:04.300 He said, we've given them their money.

00:15:07.300 They have the authorities and we have the authorities of the administration to provide them the immediate aid that they may need.

00:15:15.300 So that's and then if they need a supplemental, we'll be back in Congress to do the supplemental.

00:15:21.300 But the bottom line is, I think Israel is one of the most capable fighting forces on the planet.

00:15:29.300 And and they're going to go in and do what they need to do.

00:15:32.300 And what they need to do, quite frankly, is to act with decisiveness and with boldness so that there can be no mistake that there will be no way that they can be attacked like this again.

00:15:47.300 And when we return, we're talking with Congressman Andy Biggs.

00:15:51.300 We're going to be talking about, will the Republicans be able to do what they need to do?

00:15:56.300 The speakership is still vacant.

00:15:58.300 They met.

00:15:59.300 And let's find out what happened in just one moment as we continue our conversation with Congressman Andy Biggs.

00:16:06.300 Stay with us.

00:16:07.300 We're back with Congressman Andy Biggs.

00:16:15.300 Congressman, a meeting with the conference, various reports suggesting it didn't go well.

00:16:21.300 And one outrageous development.

00:16:24.300 And that is the former speaker, Kevin McCarthy, pushing his name for a return to the office.

00:16:32.300 Say it ain't so.

00:16:34.300 Well, I'll tell you, I thought the meeting went better than I thought it was going to go, Lou.

00:16:40.300 I thought there was actually some some actually positive dialogue that went on there.

00:16:47.300 So so I came away pleasantly surprised with regard to Mr. McCarthy.

00:16:55.300 There is a small cadre of folks that I think that are still have raw feelings and feel an allegiance to McCarthy.

00:17:03.300 And McCarthy told us last week he was stepping down, stepping away for the good of conference.

00:17:09.300 And he wasn't going to get involved.

00:17:11.300 And then all of a sudden on Saturday, he's saying, well, it's up to the conference, not up to me.

00:17:17.300 So there's a few people that are going to do it.

00:17:19.300 But I don't think that that's where it's going to land.

00:17:21.300 I think it's going to be either Steve Scalise or Jim Jordan.

00:17:24.300 That's where I would say it's headed right now, Lou.

00:17:27.300 Well, that's reassuring, because all of the stories are being peddled, of course, by the mainstream corporate media.

00:17:34.300 You would think that they were bringing Kevin McCarthy in on a chariot of some sort as the great holding the olive wreath over his head.

00:17:46.300 Absolutely.

00:17:47.300 Just as the as the conference ended up begging for Paul Ryan.

00:17:51.300 And we know how that all that all worked out.

00:17:54.300 If there is a single Republican who would vote for Kevin McCarthy after witnessing what happened to the Republican Party in the House with Paul Ryan as speaker.

00:18:04.300 Shame on them.

00:18:05.300 I think that in point of fact, it'd be suicidal for the Republican Party. 1.00

00:18:09.300 And the entire conference would look like fools. 0.99

00:18:12.300 Those for him and those against him. 0.98

00:18:15.300 It would not be a happy moment in in terms of Jordan and Scalise.

00:18:20.300 Which do you see as the likely emerging speaker?

00:18:25.300 Well, first of all, I'm not going to endorse anybody publicly, because if I do with the raw feelings in the conference, whoever I endorse will immediately lose about one hundred twenty five votes no matter what.

00:18:36.300 Okay.

00:18:37.300 So that's just the way that goes.

00:18:38.300 I will tell you that I've actually talked to both Scalise and Jordan.

00:18:46.300 They're both working at hard.

00:18:49.300 I've been in forums where they book different groups that I'm part with in Congress.

00:18:55.300 They've been to all the groups.

00:18:57.300 They're doing it individuals.

00:18:58.300 They've got people making calls for them.

00:19:00.300 And what I what the sense I'm getting is it's too close to call, but it's going to be one or one of the other of them.

00:19:07.300 That's that's the sense I'm getting.

00:19:09.300 And I also don't think it's going to take that long.

00:19:12.300 I hope it doesn't take that long, but I have the sense it won't take that long.

00:19:16.300 We're going in tonight for another forum.

00:19:19.300 And my understanding is tomorrow.

00:19:21.300 The conference is going to vote in the morning and by probably mid afternoon, be my guess.

00:19:27.300 We'll have an idea who that speaker is going to be.

00:19:31.300 Well, that's that's certainly would be beneficial to the Republican Party and to the Republic.

00:19:36.300 I'm hoping that you guys will all show enough unity and strength of purpose to unite and to make it a one or two round affair.

00:19:46.300 Fifteen rounds, I think, at this point would be more than disastrous.

00:19:51.300 Frankly, it's a time for unity.

00:19:53.300 And if there aren't enough adults in there that understand that they're going to have to move toward representing the American people,

00:20:01.300 rather than K Street, the Chamber of Commerce and whatever other nonsense that they've been dealing with.

00:20:09.300 That is, I guess I would have to say the the Kevin McCarthy support regime that just will not work again.

00:20:19.300 I think the Republicans really have to take a step and and move forward here as America first and making America great again.

00:20:28.300 Your thoughts on that and the position with Donald Trump and the House.

00:20:35.300 Yes. So you're exactly right.

00:20:38.300 I think I'm hoping that this actually provides one more exit from the unit party, Lou, because we've been grabbed by the unit party, as you know, for some time.

00:20:49.300 It hindered Donald Trump's presidency and prevented us from doing everything that he wanted to do.

00:20:57.300 And I felt that we could accomplish.

00:20:59.300 We still have Obamacare, for instance, because of the unit party.

00:21:03.300 And so we have to get rid of the unit party and move to an America first movement.

00:21:08.300 And that's really what part of this is about.

00:21:12.300 The other thing is these guys simply couldn't negotiate.

00:21:18.300 They couldn't negotiate neither Paul Ryan nor Kevin.

00:21:21.300 I mean, Kevin Kevin came in with a really bad plan, in my thought, for the debt ceiling lift.

00:21:25.300 And that debt ceiling lift was one point to get this loop to raise the debt ceiling for by one point five trillion dollars over eight months.

00:21:32.300 That's a two point two five trillion dollar when you annualize that.

00:21:36.300 And then he came back with this grand idea.

00:21:39.300 No debt ceiling.

00:21:40.300 No debt ceiling.

00:21:41.300 And we're not even we're not even going to talk about until January of twenty twenty five, which is exactly what Biden wants.

00:21:47.300 So I said, OK, I don't think the country can stand it anymore.

00:21:51.300 And no more lip service to border security and no more bad CRs.

00:21:57.300 What you have to do is the twelve budget bills, because in the budget bills, Lou, that's your chance.

00:22:02.300 You know this as well as I do to actually go after this administration and put pressure on the administration, actually enforce the border laws.

00:22:11.300 So if big boys and girls, if big boys and girls in the Congress get together and they actually come up with twelve separate appropriations bills and work the budget as they are supposed to do.

00:22:26.300 It's been law for almost 50 years, but they haven't followed it to my memory, at least at one time.

00:22:33.300 And that was in what, nineteen ninety six.

00:22:35.300 I mean, it's this is time for everyone in that in that conference, in that Congress to stand up.

00:22:43.300 The way you guys began this conference, rough and tumble, the doors were open, not shut.

00:22:49.300 Watching the process and full view of television cameras.

00:22:54.300 I have to.

00:22:55.300 To me, I found that one of the most inspiring things that Congress has done in recent memory.

00:23:00.300 I hope you all will return to regular order and to wide open, straight up exchanges of views and debate and the rough and tumble of the arena in the United States Congress.

00:23:13.300 I think that's the way it was designed, was it not?

00:23:16.300 And Lou, you're exactly right.

00:23:17.300 The founders gave us a majoritarian system that was meant to.

00:23:22.300 They gave us a committee system and they gave us an opportunity to actually get up there, debate, fight it out.

00:23:28.300 As you say, rough and tumble.

00:23:30.300 They weren't talking about occasionally there were some fisticuffs in a cane or two that knocked people down.

00:23:35.300 But the idea was to allow representatives to represent ideas, their constituents and then filter out the bad stuff.

00:23:45.300 So you would spit out good stuff.

00:23:47.300 They designed it to be hard to get stuff through.

00:23:50.300 And the idea was, of course, that you would get the best stuff through, not the worst stuff.

00:23:55.300 And when you do it the way we've been doing it for almost all my life, it's been the bad stuff that comes through, not the good stuff.

00:24:04.300 Well, part of the good stuff is right now a congressional impeachment inquiry.

00:24:09.300 We want to find out where that is, your thinking as to the situation now that confronts the House of Representatives and what you expect to be the result going forward and whether or not there will be an acceleration of what is a clear cut case.

00:24:25.300 In my judgment, at least a very strong case of corruption and absolutely criminal conduct on the part of the president of the United States.

00:24:37.300 We'll be right back with Congressman Andy Biggs.

00:24:39.300 Stay with us.

00:24:46.300 We're back now.

00:24:47.300 We're talking with Congressman Andy Biggs and Congressman, a host of issues before the Congress and before the nation right now.

00:24:54.300 But I think it could be argued that chief among them is the impeachment inquiry that has been going on, many people think, for far too long.

00:25:03.300 This is a simple charge against a president of the United States.

00:25:08.300 There is evidence of so many charges right now before the Congress.

00:25:13.300 What do you expect to happen?

00:25:15.300 When will they move, if they will move, to an actual impeachment of the president?

00:25:21.300 Okay.

00:25:22.300 So, A, I agree with you.

00:25:24.300 I have felt for a long time that there was enough credible evidence showing corruption, not just corruption, influence peddling, access peddling by this president when he was vice president, and then covering it all up and obstruction of justice as president of the United States.

00:25:46.300 So, all of that goes into saying those are all impeachable offenses.

00:25:51.300 Certainly, bribery, I think, is really another credible crime that he has committed.

00:25:56.300 Well, so what happens?

00:25:59.300 Well, we continue to amass evidence.

00:26:01.300 And, Lou, we've got mountains of evidence.

00:26:04.300 And someone actually wrote something recently that said the problem for the Republicans now is they've got too much evidence of too many crimes.

00:26:14.300 So, it makes it harder for the American public to focus on it.

00:26:17.300 So, and I think that may be true a little bit, but here's the deal.

00:26:23.300 In order to impeach, it's going to end up coming through Judiciary Committee.

00:26:29.300 And I'm not sure that we have enough votes in the Judiciary Committee if this were done tomorrow to forward this out of the committee.

00:26:40.300 There are some who told me that they were against it at first that I think are coming around.

00:26:44.300 But I, there's some, there's some that I just can't imagine them ever coming around.

00:26:51.300 But.

00:26:52.300 Now, these are Republicans you're talking about, right?

00:26:55.300 Yeah, I'm sorry about Republicans because, I mean, our margin, we probably have enough to get, we might have enough to get it out by one vote or two votes.

00:27:04.300 But the problem is, you start watering down coming out of the Judiciary Committee, that means it gets watered down going to the floor, right?

00:27:13.300 And that, and, and that means that we would have an uphill battle and might not even be able to get it out.

00:27:20.300 And I know McCarthy's position was, if we don't have the votes to get it out, we're not going to bring it up on the floor, which I understand, which I understand.

00:27:29.300 So what does it take? And who are these people? And I don't mean for you to name names, but are they just, you know, bogged down rhinos who are gutless and, and brainless?

00:27:43.300 Are they sold out completely to the, to the Chamber of Commerce, the Business Roundtable? Who are these people?

00:27:50.300 Some of them have fallen into that category you're talking about. Others take the position that we would be turning it into a political position. And I always tell them, I always say, you have to understand we're in a political place.

00:28:06.300 And so, of course, they really, they really say something like that. Yeah, so I'll say, of course, it will be political.

00:28:13.300 And then they want, don't want to get down to the level and, and we would, they're looking for a little bit more thread to Joe Biden.

00:28:21.300 The fact that Hunter Biden's a dirt bag and the whole Biden family's corrupt, you know, doesn't matter because we have to link it to Joe Biden, in spite of the fact that even what Turley's, Professor Turley said, is that, and he's right on this.

00:28:37.300 He says, bribery doesn't mean that I have to personally get direct benefit. Bribery can mean that I'm giving you a benefit by giving your kids something that benefits in exchange for your favor or something like that. 0.84

00:28:55.300 And that's what we see a lot of. And I keep saying, well, we've got multiple witnesses saying that he received was receiving a portion of the kickbacks.

00:29:04.300 We've got an FBI report saying $5 million went to Joe Biden. At some point, you have to admit that he is culpable here and then have the trial.

00:29:18.160 You know what I, Congressman, I, I really think this is important. I say it right now.

00:29:22.500 I think one of the problems, we know they're spineless, they're, they're misdirected, their values are abhorrent.

00:29:30.200 And I'm talking about the rhinos. But, you know, there's another thing.

00:29:34.740 I think they really believe that they're smarter than the people they represent.

00:29:39.720 I've gotten a sense from some in Congress, perhaps even many, that they really think, you know, they've got to educate the American people.

00:29:47.460 When I look at these public opinion polls, I don't know if we're looking at the same polls, because when 70 percent of the American people understand that it is a politically motivated witch hunt that's being carried out by the Marxist Dems and the rhinos against President Trump, they've caught on pretty quick, I think. 0.71

00:30:06.540 And the laggards, the Luddites, the, did I mention dullards, are all rhinos and, and, you know, at least for the Marxist Dems, you can say they're smart. 0.68

00:30:18.640 They're just on the wrong side with the wrong worldview and the wrong side of history. 0.97

00:30:24.260 But for the rhinos, there's no excuse for these people, not any longer. 1.00

00:30:28.640 Lou, this is the bubble syndrome.

00:30:34.720 These people, they didn't understand, in my opinion, they didn't understand, for instance, what McCarthy had done and how he had sold us out to a series of CRs, didn't get the budget bills done the way he promised, gave us no debt ceiling.

00:30:50.080 Those types of things, which in an existential crisis, Lou, this is an existential crisis.

00:30:54.480 I don't understand how they can miss what was done because the majority of Americans understand pretty clearly Mr. McCarthy had given us that and he needed to go.

00:31:06.680 And, and, and I think it's just people get in this bubble here and they forget what it's like.

00:31:11.880 This is why I go home every weekend, even if it's for a day and you go out and you meet with some people because they're going to tell you what's on their mind.

00:31:18.700 And I think that's so incredibly important to understand why we're here and how to get out of it.

00:31:26.500 No issue more important than a border that is under the control of the Mexican drug cartels.

00:31:32.320 Some people want to talk about their transnational cartels.

00:31:35.080 Well, they do business transnationally, but they're the Mexican drug cartels and they are in charge of both sides of that border.

00:31:42.520 Northern Mexico and Southern United States.

00:31:45.880 And this has been your issue for, for years.

00:31:51.260 You're one of the policy leaders on, in the Republican party.

00:31:55.640 What is going, what is it going to take to secure the border and to protect the United States of America?

00:32:06.020 Lou, it is so bad.

00:32:07.420 And I'll tell you what I think has to happen.

00:32:09.480 And this is why you have to do the 12 appropriations bills.

00:32:12.020 You cannot keep funding, and this goes along with what you're talking about, the weaponization of government against Trump and conservatives.

00:32:20.300 It goes down to this.

00:32:21.940 You cannot keep funding a government that is trying to destroy your country and destroy you.

00:32:29.100 And until we say, no more, we're not going to fund ATF because you're going after gun owners. 0.56

00:32:37.580 We're not going to fund DOJ and FBI fully, and we'll give you the crime lab money because we need that.

00:32:43.140 But we're not going to give you the rest of that money because you're attacking Americans.

00:32:46.800 And you and DHS, we're going to remove you from positions like Mayorkas. 1.00

00:32:52.600 My amendment got on.

00:32:53.940 We can get rid of Mayorkas if it gets out of the Senate. 1.00

00:32:56.400 The point is, Lou, that's the kind of fight it takes.

00:32:59.760 And it takes a fight to say we're going to impeach Joe Biden.

00:33:02.820 Until you start doing those things and understand it's verbal fisticuffs, it's procedural fisticuffs, 0.62

00:33:09.800 it's political fisticuffs that we're engaged in against a regime that is trying to destroy you and your country,

00:33:18.180 then we will not get the border secured, we will still be in peril over the spending,

00:33:25.760 the depression that's coming, the economic viability will continue to decline, our safety, our national security.

00:33:32.360 All of those will be a problem until we fail as a state, unless Congress gets its act together.

00:33:40.320 But I'm afraid I've blackpilled it.

00:33:42.100 And I don't think enough of my colleagues understand that we have to take action now,

00:33:47.920 because I think that they're all waiting for us to be forced into action by circumstances that they allowed to happen.

00:33:54.040 Every one of those people who is fighting this country's national security by not securing that border,

00:33:59.300 which is exposing hundreds of thousands of Americans to fentanyl overdoses every year.

00:34:06.140 We've lost a half million Americans to fentanyl and to the Chinese Mexican cartel enterprises. 0.92

00:34:14.380 I think this is just about where we have to say enough.

00:34:18.020 Congressman, it's always great to have you with us.

00:34:20.240 Congressman Andy Biggs, we appreciate it.

00:34:22.980 Thanks so much.

00:34:23.560 God bless you.

00:34:24.480 Thanks, Lou.

00:34:25.120 Good seeing you.

00:34:26.820 Thanks to Congressman Andy Biggs.

00:34:28.680 Thank you, everybody, for being with us today.

00:34:31.480 Our guest here tomorrow on The Great America Show is Colonel Doug McGregor.

00:34:35.660 We continue our coverage of the war in Israel, and we'll get Colonel Doug McGregor's take on how all of this plays out.

00:34:43.040 Please join us for that tomorrow, and join us each and every day.

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00:34:55.820 Thank you, everybody.

00:34:56.620 God bless you, and may God bless and save America.

The Great America Show - October 11, 2023

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