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- January 28, 2022
GORKAļ¼ RUSSIAN COLLUSION IS REALā DIAMOND & SILK SAY BIDEN BLAMES GOP FOR HIS MESS
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America podcast with Lou Dobbs,
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always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.
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And now here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Great America show. We're waiting to see what Vladimir
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Putin wants to do with all of those troops that he's positioned so conveniently on Russia's
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Western borders. We're waiting to see what Xi Jinping wants to do as well, what he wants to
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do with Taiwan, and whether he understands clearly just how fearful and respectful he must be at all
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times of President Joe Biden, no matter how Mr. Biden might appear in a White House press event.
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With us to take up all of this and more, but certainly all of the suspense that is now shared
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by at least half the planet, is one of my favorite radio and TV personalities and Great American.
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Today we have with us Sebastian Gorka, the host of America First on Salem Radio Network,
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and the Gorka Reality Check on the Newsmax Cable Network. Seb, great to have you with us.
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Great to be on. Happy New Year, Lou.
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Happy New Year, my friend. Seb, let's start with, first of all, that news conference that will live
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in infamy. The president lost, meandering, and going we know not where. Your reaction?
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Well, you know, I discussed this press conference and the one he did before that, and I analyzed it.
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I have two, you know, big strategic guests that come on every week on the radio show,
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America First. And, you know, if I ever grow up, I'd like to be more like them. One is Victor Davis Hanson.
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And the other one is Lord Conrad Black, the media mobile out of Canada. And I asked them,
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because they're both professional historians. Lord Black has written three books on U.S. presidents.
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If they can recall in modern times in the 20th century, any head of state, any American who
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lambasted half the country, who was angry with half the country. And we see this time and time again,
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whether it's talking, you know, on the anniversary of the fake insurrection of January the 6th,
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or whether it was, as you said, his meandering, meandering discussion on his first year office,
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they couldn't recall any president who gets so, you know, you can get angry at Tojo's Japan
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if you're the president, you know, President Truman. You can get angry at Al-Qaeda if you're George Bush.
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But to get angry again and again and again, like an irascible old man, as Biden did with Americans,
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is very peculiar. On top of that, you know, I know we've got, you know, half an hour together, Lou,
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but we could spend the next 30 hours just without partisan politics listing the incredible
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roster of failures that this man represents. And it doesn't matter what sector, whether it's
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national security, Afghanistan and the border, whether it's the economy with supply chain and
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inflation, whether it's COVID with more deaths in one year under Biden than we had in the whole
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Trump administration. It is a disaster every which way you look. And, you know, to put it back into
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perspective, Lou, it took Carter at least three years to create that disastrous economic malaise
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that brought us Ronald Reagan. This man has done it in a few months. It's incredible.
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And with all of that, as I said at the outset, at least half the world is on something akin to
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pins and needles, waiting to see whether Vladimir Putin moves his troops across that border. And
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President Biden giving the world a new concept in that press conference, the idea that there is such
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a thing as a minor incursion by a global military force like the Russian army. It's stunning what turned
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out to be gave every appearance of being an invitation to Vladimir Putin. And frankly, I had to, as he said
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that, I've had, I thought to myself, Mr. Gorka, I think this is reminiscent of the Democrats demand that we
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investigate collusion, because it sounded very much to me that Joe Biden was colluding with Vladimir Putin
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to help him in an incursion and invasion of Ukraine.
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Well, on your first point, let's be clear about the last five years. There has been Russian collusion
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at the highest levels of the American government, but it has been done by Democrats. Whether it's the
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the former Secretary of State paying $12 million from her campaign to use a British MI6 agent to buy a fake
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propaganda smear material from a Russian asset working in the Brookings Institution, or whether it's
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anything to do with the regime that gended up the Obama appointees like Comey, Brennan, and others,
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that ginned up the fake collusion narrative to accuse Mike Flynn of committing crimes where none
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had been committed. Russian collusion is real, but it's always done by Democrats. With regards to this
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recent statement, you know, on the one hand, you have to smile and just be amused. I can't think of a
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presidential president that has required so many retractions or quote-unquote corrections from the
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White House within the first 24 hours of it's being given. When you see Jen Psaki making statements,
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you see official White House memos being issued after Biden's address in which they say, no, President
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Biden didn't mean that about a minor incursion. And if Russia does invade, we will have a strenuous
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response. Or whether it's Psaki having to say, President Biden wasn't questioning the results of
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the yet-to-be-held midterm elections. Of course, he didn't mean it when he said they would be
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illegitimate. It's a disaster. This man is either senile or he's complicit. And I don't do predictions
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because, you know, Lou, nobody's held to their predictions. But I'm going to give you one right now.
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And having lived in Europe, having lived in a former communist nation for 15 years after the
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fall of the Berlin Wall, I guarantee you that the speech given this week by Joe Biden is being taken
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by the former KGB colonel Vladimir Putin as a green light to invade Ukraine again. And imminently,
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within a matter of days, maybe maximum a couple of weeks, we will see that line crossed again,
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and Ukraine will be at war. I am surprised, I don't know if you are, that Colonel Vindman hasn't
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reappeared in public to protest strongly the language of Joe Biden and his express invitation
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to a foe of all of Europe and indeed most of the civilized world. Vindman is really missed here
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because he has such a precise and sensitive antenna for these sorts of things that are
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communicated between world leaders. Aren't you shocked?
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Yes, I'm so glad you reminded me of Alexandra, don't call me Mr. Vindman. I'm going to have to
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tweet out the fact that he reminded me that he seems to be very loud in his absence. The silence is
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deafening, especially for an individual who, by the way, if your listeners aren't aware, was born in
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the Ukraine, ended up as the person who was the fake whistleblower reporting on President Trump's
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discussion with the president of Ukraine, despite the fact that Alexandra, Sasha Vindman wasn't even on
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the call. Oh, and just one last little piquant additional footnote. This is the individual
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who has admitted on the record as a serving lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army that twice
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he was offered the position of minister of defense by the Ukrainian government. So why is he not standing
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up for his Ukrainian brothers? I don't understand it, Lou. I just somehow see him right now with a
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uh, uh, uh, with an M-16 slung over, uh, over his shoulder, his pack, uh, and, you know,
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carrying it in both hands and boarding a C-17A, uh, to make sure that the, the motherland is protected.
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Uh, it's, it's stunning stuff. As we watch this, uh, all this unfold under this administration,
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we learned that actually, President Trump was concerned about the wrong terrorists. He was,
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you know, he was worried about the Iranians. He was worried about ISIS. And by the way,
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more than worried, he did something about it. He eliminated them. Uh, but this administration
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is concerned about domestic terrorists. And by that, I mean, of course, the parents of school
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children, uh, in our public school system, uh, who've been designated by Merrick Garland, the attorney
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general as, uh, the potential, uh, domestic terrorists that could up end, uh, America as
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we know it, who would have ever dreamed we would see this kind of nonsense emanating from Merrick
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Garland, who we were assured would be a level-headed bipartisan, uh, unbiased, uh, justice of the
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Supreme court. If only Mitch McConnell would permit him, uh, to, uh, move forward with a confirmation vote.
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Yeah, look, uh, uh, we are a blessed nation in one respect that this individual never made it to the
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Supreme court, but I, having watched him testify at the inanities that he said with regards to the
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BLM and FIFA right thing, well, um, they're not terrorism because terrorism doesn't occur after dark.
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And those arson attacks happened at night time. This is, this is an intellectual lightweight. Uh,
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he's a puppet, just like Biden is a puppet. He's not running DOJ. It's former Obama holdovers, like
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Lisa Monaco, Obama's, uh, counter-terrorism advisor, who was the architect of the Obama era, disastrous
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counter-ISIS policy, who sadly, and Lou, this is where I have, uh, and I don't even tell you,
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such problems with the establishment GOP and the rhino class. Lisa Monaco, another Obama holdover,
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who was confirmed with nary an issue, uh, by the GOP senators when she was nominated by Biden to be
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the real decision maker in the DOJ, uh, under Merrick Garland. So yes, this is, this is what
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somebody else has called, and I, I, I, I fully agree with it, the attempt to criminalize conservatives.
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We saw hooliganism on January the 6th. We saw a handful of individuals do stupid things, such as
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trespass on Congress, uh, break things. Uh, nobody was killed by the January 6th rioters. A 14 year old
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Air Force, 14 year Air Force veteran was murdered by a capital police officer in cold blood, an unarmed
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woman. Uh, that individual was lauded by the legacy mainstream media. As a result, more than 700 Trump
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supporters were arrested. Many of them are still in solitary confinement in the metropolitan police
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cells in DC. Some of them are grandmothers, some of them are suffering from cancer. And one individual,
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absolutely outrageous, still in confinement and has yet to receive an arraignment date before May of this
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year. And that is a complete travesty. We are assured all Americans, irrespective of our political
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colors, swift access to justice. This is a regime, and I call it a regime, whether it's Nancy, whether
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it's Biden, whether it's Schumer, whether it's the DOJ, that is trying to criminalize people who simply
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disagree with them politically. No one I think is under any illusion. The Biden administration,
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the radical Dems, the, the Marxist left in this country has turned the Biden administration into a
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force of evil, uh, a force that has been, uh, aimed at the American people. January 6th and all that has
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followed, uh, whether it be the, the persecution of those poor protesters and some of course who
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actually committed criminal acts. But to this point, there's no, to my knowledge, there's been no
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charge other than a misdemeanor, uh, which is a proper crime, uh, not an insurrection. Uh, and by
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the way, if it was an insurrectionist, uh, is Marco Rubio said, uh, if it's being led by a guy with a
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Viking helmet and horns, uh, wearing a speedo, uh, it's hard to take seriously, uh, the idea that it
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was a serious attempt at anything. Uh, so I, I'm just looking at this and I see the creation of a
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January 6th committee. This looks like Soviet style, uh, show, uh, show trials, uh, and show
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investigations, uh, all a sham, uh, perpetrated again, justice. We watched two fake impeachments,
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two fake FBI investigations, a fake special counsel, and now fake district attorneys and
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attorneys general, a radical Dems and Marxists in various States going after president Trump
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and his family, the persecution continues. And for those keeping track, this is six years
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of persecution of the president of the United States. And there has not been one single charge
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that resulted of any kind. There's been no crime found. Do you know how many people could have
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all of these forces arrayed against them and not come up with something, a tax liability, a parking
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warrant, uh, you name it, something. And this goes on. And the media is so callously corporate
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that they do not have the integrity to say it out loud. This is a fraud. It is a, this is a national
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shame. What has been done to president Trump, to the Trump family. And by the way, uh, the American
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people are owed a great apology, uh, apology by so many, but I would settle for just appropriate
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punishment for all of those who have perpetrated the fraud and the persecution. How about you?
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Well, look, uh, I think it's worse than that. I think the media, it's not a, it's not just, uh,
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acquiescence and complicity that the media were, were, were complicit in propagating the Russia hopes,
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uh, the Steele dossier on and on and on for four years. And now, now it's personal. And you're
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right. It's, it's about president Trump or anybody who supports him. Just before Christmas, I arrived
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home to a very unpleasant, uh, gift on my doorstep, a, a, a, a courier package from a FedEx sent to me by
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the, uh, Verizon phone company subpoena compliance division. Uh, they had been approached by Nancy's
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January 6th committee to provide, uh, them, the Congress, the witch hunters with all my
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telephonic metadata, but, but it's not just my data. It's every phone on the account. That's my wife.
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That's my children. The congressional subpoena was attached. No mention is made of any crime I
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committed. I wasn't near Congress on January the 6th, but I guess as a former deputy assistant to
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President Trump as a, a, a, a vocal advocate of America first, who has a radio show that is called
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America first, that is my crime. So, uh, as the great Andrew Breitbart taught us, these are just
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bullies. We have to stand up against them. I filed a motion to quash in the district court, but as we
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saw just this week, I think it was Wednesday, all of president Trump's lawyers have likewise been
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subpoenaed their phone records as well, whether it's Rudy Giuliani, my white house colleague,
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Boris Epstein, whether it's Jenna Ellis. And there is a nary, a consideration given in the, in the
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mainstream legacy line media to the fact that the communications of a lawyer are protected. The
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client, uh, lawyer attorney privilege is sacrosanct in American law, I guess, unless you're a Republican
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working for president Trump. So at the end of the day, it's clear to me, it's not about me,
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it's not about Rudy. It's about the 74 million Americans that voted for president Trump. They
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have nothing loose. Well, what is the Democrat agenda for the midterms? More inflation, more
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invasion of sovereign territory by, uh, our enemies, more success for China, for Russia, for Iran. If you
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don't have policies, if you're, if your president is 17 points underwater in the polls, if 50% of your
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voters do not want Biden to run again in the, after just 12 months in office, what do you have? You
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have nothing except the ad hominem and the political persecution. But as long as there's breath in my body
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and in the bodies of people like fighters, like Rudy Giuliani, we will never surrender.
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Well, indeed. And, uh, no one would expect, uh, anything else of you, but the unfortunate reality
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here is, uh, more than 30 former Trump officials were told now it is reported in the Daily Mail
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in particular, uh, are now holding secret calls and moving to try to subvert, uh, his, uh, expected
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a run for re for reelection in 2024. Uh, it goes on and on, and you know, all of that is ginned up by
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the left, uh, the usual suspects, uh, John Kelly at all, trying to, to take on a president. They didn't
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serve with either integrity or, or, or, or intellect or talent. Uh, it's, it's disgusting what we're
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watching, uh, because he continues to be attacked by those who owe him so much. Uh, and can I,
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can I, can I, can I, can I, can I just respond to that, that, that one thing you mentioned,
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because it's really, you know, I'm not sure your listeners know the full story here. So, uh, and this is,
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this is hard for me to discuss because I served for five and a half years in the defense department.
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I was a professor of a kind of terrorism at national defense university. I spent two and a
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half years in Quantico at the home of the Marine Corps. And I, I love the Marines above all the
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services. And when John Kelly became chief of staff to president Trump, we, we had high hopes. This is,
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uh, you know, a legendary individual in the Marine Corps, but, but he's one of the reasons I had to
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leave the administration. You can read about that story in, in, in the books I've published
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since I've left, but just one anecdote that is now in the public domain. So I can share it because
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he's spoken about it publicly. So, um, you have, of course, a Corey Lewandowski, uh, President Trump's,
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the former campaign manager who never joined the administration, but was very close to the
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president who saw the president weekly, walked into the white house whenever he wanted because
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the president wanted his counsel. Corey, uh, was tested by John Kelly because he couldn't control
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him. And one day he came out of the Oval Office after a consultation with my boss, President Trump.
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And Kelly didn't know he was on the compound when he saw him in the West wing. And this is, this is,
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Corey has stated this publicly now, John Kelly wrapped him by the suit lapels, threw him against
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the wall so violently in the West wing that the button of his jacket ripped off the jacket. And I'm
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not going to use the language he used, but this hero Marine said, well, you are never coming back
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into my house again, without my permission. John Kelly called the white. I've heard, I've heard,
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I've heard the story. Yeah. Yeah. It's the deep state is an ugly, ugly creature. Uh, and it is a living
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organism within the government. And as a matter of fact, uh, at times this government doesn't in any
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direction, unless it has the approval of the interagency, uh, the permanent bureaucracy or
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better known as the deep state, uh, whether it's the, the general staff and the U S military at the
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Pentagon, whether it is, uh, you know, and, and talking about, uh, treason, uh, general Milley,
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the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, picking up a phone to talk to his quote unquote counterparts
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in the people's liberation army to warn them about the prospect of an attack, uh, by president Trump
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that he would order. I, there is so much, uh, dis, uh, you know, just absolutely disgusting conduct
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on the part of the military and the intelligence services over the course of the Trump administration,
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that it, it, it, it is a book unto itself. It hasn't been written and it won't be, uh, because
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the deep state will make certain it isn't. But what we do know is that, uh, the elites, the globalist
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elites, the military industrial complex, the wall street, corporate America, the oligarchs of big tech
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and social media conspired to destroy a president. Uh, and they didn't give a damn what else went down,
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including the government of the United States. It's outrageous, uh, what transpired over that time
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and which continues today. I, I, when I first joined the administration, um, I, I was leery of using the
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phrase deep state, uh, and I didn't until about two weeks in when I actually witnessed the deep state, uh,
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in action. And let me share a story from a few months later that, that, that really,
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if you had any doubts about the deep state, this is the counterpoint. Um, very early on,
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I was given a task, a classified, uh, national security task, which necessarily gave people
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assisting me in some research work for the president. So I, I had to second individuals
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from the U S government to the white house to execute that mission, which is an absolutely normal
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thing. Uh, since I'd been a professor for several years, I had lots of former students of mine
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across the interagency in the intelligence community. So I put a fine name request through
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for John Doe from the FBI, uh, you know, John Smith from CIA. And I was informed by the white house,
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okay, this will take about two weeks. All we have to do is get the permission of those agencies and
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transfer their clearances completely standard, uh, um, month after month, nobody arrived. And, uh,
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I was given excuses and eventually six months later, a senior individual from the FBI who was in the
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white house on business anyway, uh, came to my office and said, said, you're never going to get
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those second deeds. And these are his exact words because the seventh floor of the Hoover building
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looks at this white house as the enemy, meaning the executive branch FBI leadership looks at
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president Trump as the enemy to their agency. That is the deep state in action.
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And the deep state, and by the way, I've been talking about this deep state for a very long time,
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because it has been clear to me and my reporting over the years, uh, the governments that I've
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worked with, whether it's the Obama administration, whether it is the Bush administration, either of
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them, the Clinton administration, that there are forces within the government that are not,
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not there to serve, but rather to direct and to protect and protect their own interests,
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not that of the United States. And it doesn't matter whether we're talking about the Pentagon,
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intelligence services, whether we're talking about, uh, various other agencies, by the way,
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I should include parts of the treasury department as well. This is, uh, this is just stunning to think
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that right now with this weak and in feeble leader in the white house right now, there is, he's referred
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to by many as a puppet, but a puppet of whom, uh, and it, I don't know if it's sufficient to say he's a puppet
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of the deep state, because I think that that cabal that is controlling this administration goes throughout
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corporate America through wall street. Uh, and by the way, I think it goes as well, uh, to China, uh, to Russia.
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Uh, and there is no doubt that Biden is nothing more than a figurehead, uh, for interests that do not
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have the best interests of the United States at heart. And that is why in, in large measure, there was such
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opposition to president Trump, uh, every day, every step of the way, uh, for, uh, from the period that
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he started his campaign, uh, to this very moment in which nothing more than the prospect of him being
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elected in 2024, still, still rattles the souls of these, uh, these reprobates, uh, in the deep state.
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And that's why he must be, in my judgment, reelected.
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No, I concur. And I assure you that if we do shellac the, uh, Democrats in the midterms and, uh,
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secure the Senate in the house, then he will be running. And if, uh, we prevent the theft of the
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election, if we secure the election, he will be the next president of the United States. But,
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but to your broader point, yeah, there's, there's no broad, um, there's no centralized conspiracy.
00:27:09.900
But there is a nefarious, um, alliance across all industries, across all sectors, across all
00:27:18.700
parts of the globe. And they're united by one thing. It came to me very simply. I, I, one,
00:27:23.100
one week I thought, why, what, what is it about the people who hate president Trump? Because it's,
00:27:28.620
it's so vituperative. It's, it's so, you use the word evil. It absolutely is a man who sacrificed
00:27:34.780
millions, if not billions to serve this country. A man who had to be destroyed because he wasn't
00:27:40.780
owed by any interest, not, not the unions, not by farmer, not by oil. Uh, and he was a threat to
00:27:46.940
those vested interests in the Uniparty. And it just came to me, everybody who hates him,
00:27:52.300
hates America. So whether you're a leftist, whether you're a unionist, whether you're the
00:27:58.540
Mullahs in Tehran, whether you're a KGB Colonel in the Kremlin, that whether you're a globalist
00:28:03.980
corporation that doesn't want free markets, but wants monopolies. The one thing is, if you hate
00:28:10.060
America and what America stands for, you will hate those who loved America. And that's what we're
00:28:15.500
fighting for every single day. And you, Alou, you are one of the greatest champions and an inspiration
00:28:20.460
to all of us. Well, thank you for that. And, and I do think that everyone in this country needs to
00:28:29.900
understand the colossal architecture of this, this monstrosity that we call the deep state.
00:28:37.820
I do think that there is no question that their actions, uh, and their interests are coordinated.
00:28:43.660
I think that, uh, as a matter of fact, let me give you an example, uh, Kevin McCarthy,
00:28:49.660
who wants to be speaker when the Republicans take over the house. And hopefully that will be this,
00:28:56.380
this fall, but he wants to be speaker and he is served. He served notice on the business lobby in
00:29:04.940
this country. Imagine this, a Republican minority leader telling business that they can just step
00:29:12.940
back because their lobbyists are not going to be listened to that. They have been betrayed by
00:29:17.980
corporate America, uh, and their lobbyists, including the great, the biggest lobbying group of all the
00:29:23.820
U S chamber of commerce, the business round table. They have been fed a line of nonsense from wall
00:29:30.300
street where wall street is telling American investors to ship your money, not to a new factory
00:29:38.380
in Ohio or Illinois, but send your, your billions of dollars to China so that you can fund corporate
00:29:47.500
enterprises that are owned and connected and led in many, in most cases by the, by the CCP. It's, it's a
00:29:58.140
stunning moment in history when there is this awakening as to who the powerful forces are that drive this
00:30:06.140
country in whatever direction we go. Yeah, it is. Uh, it's great to hear those words. Uh, I I'm not convinced
00:30:16.460
that he has yet found the backbone to, uh, implement those decisions should he become the speaker after
00:30:23.900
a victory in the midterms, but it is stunning. And I think it is a recognition that Americans are
00:30:29.900
waking up to the fact that, uh, the, the uniparty system had one interest in mind, uh, the managed
00:30:38.540
decline of the United States, uh, in preference to other forces, such as a rising China and to
00:30:45.980
multinational corporations. So, you know, I, I applaud people like Congressman Gates and Marjorie
00:30:52.060
Taylor Greene who have said they refuse the first people to refuse any money from PACs or super PACs.
00:30:58.860
They only want donations from Americans, from small donors, because that as it should be,
00:31:04.460
that is as the founding fathers intended. So we, we can do it. But the thing that the last two years
00:31:11.100
has taught me Lou, and I, I'm sure you'd agree that the greatest problem America has, and it doesn't
00:31:16.140
matter which issue you talk about, the greatest deficit we have is simply courage. We must have
00:31:24.300
courage to do that, which we know is right. If we find that courage, America once more will be
00:31:30.780
unstoppable. Well, you know, you, you said, if I heard you correctly, that you think Kevin McCarthy
00:31:38.460
is too weak to be speaker. Uh, and that's interesting because I think that he's been far,
00:31:46.540
far too, uh, what would I say mild, uh, in his response to urgent issues, uh, and events that required
00:31:54.780
courage and direction and principle. Uh, he has been, if not a rhino, uh, a borderline rhino in
00:32:03.900
nearly every instance, but now is talking strong. Is it, are, do you support him as speaker?
00:32:12.300
Because I don't know whether I do. Yeah, I I've had him on, on my show America first. Um,
00:32:18.460
uh, uh, you know, as an individual, uh, he's a nice guy. I don't think very likable. Yeah.
00:32:26.460
Very likable guy, not a malefactor. And I think he can be convinced and forced to do the right
00:32:35.260
thing. And when I hear people like Jim Jordan on my show, say, I don't want to be speaker of the
00:32:41.820
house. I want to be the chairman of the judiciary committee. We have very little options left.
00:32:46.700
Who else could run and then take that position? So, you know, my, I think you're, I think your
00:32:51.980
phrase is absolutely on the money, borderline rhino, but salvageable. If we, the American
00:32:59.020
people and our representatives put the requisite pressure on him, then he will do the right thing.
00:33:05.580
But right now it's too many anti promises. But when we have, when we have innocent people
00:33:11.340
or people who've committed misdemeanor trespass, uh, in solitary confinement, in horrendous conditions,
00:33:19.500
and the GOP McCarthy does nothing. And it takes people like Louie Gohmert. It takes people like
00:33:26.780
Gates and, and, and Green and Gosar to stand outside the prison until they are let in. Uh,
00:33:34.620
we still have a lot of work to do with the GOP. Lou. Yeah. I'll, I'll put it this way. Uh,
00:33:40.940
he, uh, Kevin McCarthy was too quick, uh, to, if you will, sully
00:33:49.580
president Trump's name and to withhold not only his support, but to actually attack him in the winning,
00:33:56.060
uh, hours of January 6th. I don't think I'll forgive him for that. I don't know whether the
00:34:00.700
president will, I don't think I will. Uh, secondly, we don't need a, we don't need a leader who has to
00:34:07.020
be, uh, encouraged by his followers, uh, to, to lead. Uh, we've seen enough of that nonsense. Uh,
00:34:15.500
right. We're watching it now. So I think the Republican party has some really, uh, big choices
00:34:21.340
to make. Uh, and, uh, I know one thing, uh, they will be all the better for listening to you and your
00:34:27.900
broadcasts, whether on Newsmax or the Salem radio network, uh, as they consider the country's future.
00:34:35.260
I know that we're better off for having had the opportunity to talk with you. I enjoyed our
00:34:39.740
conversation, Seb. I hope you'll come back soon and continued great success on the Salem radio network
00:34:46.140
with America first and, uh, and on Newsmax TV. Congratulations. Uh, we wish you all the very
00:34:52.860
best. My friend, you get the last word. Thank you, Lou. God bless you and your listeners. Please
00:34:59.180
check out, uh, everything you just mentioned. It's Seb Gorka.com. And I can't wait you to have,
00:35:04.700
I can't wait to have you back on my show. You got a deal. I appreciate it, Seb. All the best.
00:35:10.700
Happy new year. God bless. Happy new year. God bless. We're joined now by two of my favorite folks,
00:35:17.900
the ever irrepressible, ever discerning and disarming diamond and silk. Great Americans,
00:35:25.020
both. It's great to see you guys. I just first, how have you been? Oh, we've been great under this
00:35:31.340
Biden regime. We're doing as well as can be expected. We're doing great. I would have thought
00:35:37.980
that he would be good for your business. Oh, no, no, no. He's not good for our business. He's good for
00:35:43.820
China and people that want to take advantage of us. Right. Right. I stand corrected and you're
00:35:49.900
absolutely correct. Uh, let, let's start with that incredible press conference. Uh, I have
00:35:58.860
seldom seen the like, I've never seen the like of that. It was just, I mean, my jaw
00:36:05.420
dropped as, uh, he went from one gaff to the next bungle to the next, uh, bumble. Uh, it was just,
00:36:14.060
awful. What did you think? Oh, it was awful. I thought it was awful. I thought it was divisive.
00:36:20.860
Um, um, pointing the fingers at the Republican party at Republicans, like they're not trying to do
00:36:26.940
anything, uh, great in this country. Uh, not remembering that we had a Republican president
00:36:33.340
and up under that Republican president, there was no high gas prices. There was no food shortages.
00:36:40.140
Shelves wasn't empty. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, you see things like there was no high inflation,
00:36:45.980
um, but up under the Democrats, this Biden regime, we see the high gas prices, open borders,
00:36:52.860
empty shelves. All of this is happening up under Biden, but he wants to blame Republican for his
00:37:00.620
sinking ship. That's something that, uh, Democrats, they love to do it. They love to create the problems
00:37:06.540
and then blame others for the problem. Yeah. Well, you know, I got a kick out of it because he kept
00:37:12.700
in his own peculiar way, he kept coming back to, uh, the question, uh, what a Republican stand for.
00:37:21.180
Uh, and I kept waiting for somebody to stand up and say, well, you know, Republicans stand for, uh,
00:37:26.140
secure borders, uh, the end to illegal immigration, uh, unprecedented economic growth, low inflation,
00:37:34.140
high employment, and balanced, uh, deficits, uh, balanced, uh, trade, uh, with the Chinese amongst other things.
00:37:43.500
I mean, that's what he stands for a strong military. And oh, yes, no one killed in Afghanistan for 18
00:37:50.060
months. That's right. And our jobs here at home in the United States, not overseas somewhere.
00:37:55.660
And when we look at everything that's happening, when it comes to shortages of goods and services,
00:38:00.220
if China is behind this, why aren't we starting to, you know, bring our jobs back home, make sure we're
00:38:07.500
making products for the United States of America and America, but you got them up there talking
00:38:13.340
about climate change and talking about build back better. I don't need you to build nothing back
00:38:18.780
better. I need you to put it back the way, uh, it was. That's right. It's, you know, you're so right.
00:38:25.420
And as he talks about these things, it's as if there was no, the country had no history. He forgets,
00:38:32.140
he himself had said on at least two occasions that it would be, you know, absolutely disaster to get
00:38:39.100
rid of the filibuster. Yeah. And here he is that we've got to have the filibuster gone. It's been
00:38:44.700
with us. Uh, we've never had a, uh, a end to debate in the U S Senate, uh, with, uh, a simple
00:38:53.260
majority. It's always required more than a simple majority. And suddenly it's a brilliant idea on the
00:38:58.300
part of Biden to stop the Supreme court, uh, as FDR tried and famously failed, uh, and to kill the
00:39:06.860
the filibuster. The last thing he wants is the minority party right now to have any say in the
00:39:12.460
direction of the country. Right. And so what, first of all, they're hypocrites and what they're
00:39:17.660
trying to do is destroy our country and usher us into a communism. They want us looking like China
00:39:24.540
is what I think that's in my humble opinion. And so we may want to get rid of things like the
00:39:29.580
filibuster. What you want to do is you want to keep it where control always be in the hands of the
00:39:35.020
Democrats. And in my humble opinion, that's because, uh, they knew something was out of order
00:39:41.900
in 2020, the election of 2020, especially if they don't want you questioning anything,
00:39:46.940
they set it up. Like we live up under dictatorship and they're raining down tyranny on the American
00:39:54.060
people is what we say. Also is they make it seem like the American people are okay with this. Like we
00:40:00.700
can, we don't see through all of the shenanigans that is going on as a pertain to their lives and
00:40:08.060
what they've been pushing in the open borders and so forth. America's American is not for this.
00:40:14.780
We want to be able to go to a grocery store, pick and choose what we want on the shelf,
00:40:20.540
feed our families, go to work with the, with the Republican G, uh, the Democrat regime
00:40:26.780
need to do is remove all of the red tape. So American can be American and Americans can be
00:40:34.380
America, where we can obtain the America dream, not live in this America nightmare.
00:40:41.980
Well said. And I, I couldn't agree with you more. Uh, as I watched the president, uh, try to contend
00:40:49.100
with one question. Uh, he was basically asked, uh, by one of the reporters, uh, effectively, uh, are you
00:40:57.180
suffering from dementia? Do you have Alzheimer's? Are you impaired? And, and he got this look on his
00:41:05.420
face, like he was going to answer that question. Honestly, there for a split second, I was afraid for
00:41:10.300
him, but he, he is just, uh, he stumbles from one moment to the next. He looks lost up there. He
00:41:19.900
stops and he pauses and doesn't say anything. Uh, and then keeps coming back to, you know, what
00:41:27.420
do the Republicans stand for? Right. As if that's the answer. And by the way, that would be the answer
00:41:33.660
if we had, uh, Donald J. Trump in the, in the white house, what do you think? Oh, that's right.
00:41:38.940
Listen, we miss him. I really hope he run in 2024. I'm looking at Biden trying to push, uh, voter,
00:41:46.380
this voter suppression and black people are being suppressed. Now he had 80, he said he had 81
00:41:54.300
million people to vote for him. That's 16 more million people than, uh, Barack Hussein Obama.
00:42:01.500
His ratings is, I believe in the low thirties, probably done hit the twenties. And he's saying
00:42:06.620
that black people are being suppressed. He said that more black people voted for him than Obama.
00:42:11.740
So how is black people being suppressed? And the idea, it just doesn't make any sense. The idea
00:42:18.620
that you think that black people don't have enough sense to pull out their ID and show it before they
00:42:25.340
vote. That is offensive to black people. That's almost like Darwin playing our intelligence. And
00:42:32.700
that's why we as black people, people of color have to stop letting this Biden regime use us as the face
00:42:39.900
of everything. Right. Photo suppression. It affects black people. Climate change. Oh, it's black COVID.
00:42:45.900
You know, black people are disproportionately affected. We have to stop that. And that's why
00:42:51.500
we always speak out about it. That's right. And good for you. I, I don't quite get what he was trying
00:42:59.580
to say because he first, he said it was going to be an illegitimate election. Uh, if, uh, everybody
00:43:07.260
in Congress and the Senate didn't pass his, uh, his voting rights bill, but his voting rights bill
00:43:13.420
actually take away rights because they would get rid of basically your state legislatures and the
00:43:19.900
federal, the federal system, uh, in this country and states rights. It's just, uh, our legal vote
00:43:28.380
would be replaced with illegal votes. Right. And I do not believe that our elections should be federalized
00:43:33.900
because in my humble opinion, what they're trying to do is justify what happened in 2020. What I do
00:43:40.620
believe is that we should follow our constitution, which they took an oath to, and we are election
00:43:46.540
should be free and fair and transparent is what I believe when it comes to our elections.
00:43:52.860
And this country isn't a quote unquote representative democracy. Yes. It is a constitutional
00:43:59.020
republic. Yeah. I had to tweet that out yesterday in some form like that to let people know
00:44:05.340
we are a constitutional republic. We're governed by constitutional laws. When these
00:44:10.460
representatives have taken oath, they've taken oath to uphold the constitution. So why do you want to
00:44:15.340
break the law? Why do you want to disenfranchise and step on our rights to vote? Whenever you take
00:44:21.980
and you put in the legal vote, you're replacing my vote. And I'm an American born on this soil. I didn't
00:44:27.420
come over here on no ship. I didn't cross no border. I was born on this soil. So we want fair,
00:44:32.860
we want transparency, and I want him to stop making black people the face of all of the atrocities
00:44:39.420
that he's trying to push. It's interesting that you say that because indeed he does put forward
00:44:46.380
the black voter as the focus of his efforts, which is really interesting since he's the
00:44:53.100
one bringing in 2 million illegal immigrants this year across that southern border. And he is also the
00:45:01.420
fellow who wants to dilute the votes of legal citizens. He wants those illegal immigrants counted
00:45:10.300
as quote unquote persons so that they can get more congressional representation who loses the
00:45:18.460
the American citizen. That's right. Because our precious voting rights are the ones being
00:45:25.740
hammered, suffocated, and diluted. So it's stunning the way he thinks. I can't quite figure him out other
00:45:35.260
than the obvious answer, which is he's suffering from some ailments that are obvious, I think, to many.
00:45:46.460
I won't say what they are, but there it is. Right. And one of the things he said was talking about
00:45:53.420
talking about the Ukraine. He said, you know, maybe if Putin just did a little minor
00:45:59.980
minor incursion into Ukraine, it'd be, you know, basically he was saying it'd be okay unless he does a
00:46:06.780
really big major incursion. I'm, I mean, Zelensky, the president of Ukraine went nuts as he, as he
00:46:15.580
properly should. Yeah. Trying to figure out what this man is saying. And right now we hear from the
00:46:22.780
Russians that they're more likely to go in to Ukraine now after that press conference.
00:46:28.380
Wow. But you have to understand, Biden is not a leader. You know, he, he, he leads from the back,
00:46:36.140
if he's leading or somewhere in the basement. And really all these other countries, they don't trust
00:46:41.580
us anymore. They don't trust the United States of America. And you can thank Biden for all of that.
00:46:46.860
Right. You listen, I love our elderly, but I believe at a specific age, when your mind starts
00:46:52.060
dwindling down and you can't drive a car, you can't walk up no stairs, you having a problem,
00:46:57.820
remembering you have a persistent cough. It's time for you to go somewhere and rock your
00:47:02.460
grandchildren. We don't need you running nothing up here in the United States of America. That's
00:47:07.180
right. Well, it is, it is scary to think that he is the man who will be making decisions if our
00:47:14.700
national security is threatened directly by either China or, or Russia. It's very difficult to imagine.
00:47:24.540
But his vice president, I have to tell you is every bit as scary to me after you watch her performance
00:47:30.140
with Savannah Guthrie, as she gets into a, what's some kind of verbal match with Savannah Guthrie,
00:47:38.140
telling her that everything was perfectly clear and not to worry her pretty little head about
00:47:43.420
it effectively. She didn't take too kindly to that understandably and, and tried to make a point.
00:47:50.060
I cannot understand what this vice president thinks she's doing.
00:47:53.660
Well, she, she knows she ain't doing nothing. And see Lou, that's why, listen,
00:47:57.740
I don't want to be carnal minded. When I say this, you don't lay on your back for a check.
00:48:01.660
That's you don't allow people to give you your stuff. You get out, you work hard and you get
00:48:05.580
it for yourself. So you will know certain things. A lot of things was handed to Kamala because of who
00:48:11.020
she dated. That's right. Okay. And now that she's out here in the real world and really got the work,
00:48:16.540
she can't remember nothing. She don't know nothing. She laughs at everything. She want
00:48:21.340
to make us think that everything is fine. And we know something that's happening up under our noses.
00:48:25.820
Yeah. So this vice president, listen, it's going to go down in history that she is going to be the
00:48:30.780
worst ever. And when they're done, they're going to leave her hold in the bag. That's right.
00:48:36.140
It's just, it's when she does that little giggle that, you know, and you'd feel like you missed the
00:48:42.460
joke when she does it. I keep trying to figure out what's so funny, but, but there we are.
00:48:49.900
And I wonder too, if the January six committee, we hear a lot about what they're doing, who they're
00:48:56.620
seeing, who they're investigating. Uh, and we, we find out that there are only two Republicans on it,
00:49:03.500
but not the two Republicans that the Senate, uh, they, excuse me, the house, the minority leader
00:49:08.860
wanted, uh, Kevin McCarthy, who wanted Jim Jordan on there for sure. And unfortunately,
00:49:16.220
Pelosi decided that this is going to be a once one way deal, your thoughts on this committee and
00:49:21.180
what they're doing. Well, I think what they're doing to me, it almost seemed like it's illegal
00:49:25.660
because they're acting like a court. Okay. I don't believe in political prosecution. Um, I don't even
00:49:32.220
know why they formed this committee. See, if you're not willing to lay out all the facts,
00:49:37.180
we talk about the facts, talk about the Capitol police that let these people into the Capitol.
00:49:43.180
That's right. When you're not willing to talk about the people that scaled the walls,
00:49:46.540
you ain't arrested them, but you arrested a grandma with a cell phone, taking some pictures,
00:49:50.860
you know, you don't bust her door down. We got to talk about this, but when you're not willing to
00:49:56.140
show all evidence, and then you want to politically prosecute somebody because you think it was a
00:50:02.220
insurrection and ain't nobody been charged with an insurrection as far as I know. And then you want
00:50:08.140
to compare January the 6th. You want to commemorate that and compare that to nine 11 or Pearl Harbor.
00:50:15.500
That's a problem for me. Right. So you arresting some people with, with some cell phones. That was worse
00:50:20.460
than people, uh, uh, uh, running planes through our, through our, through our, uh, uh, the towers.
00:50:26.460
Yeah. Like think about that for a minute. So the American people is going to have to stand up,
00:50:30.860
wake up and make a decision. Listen to what these people are saying. There's some things happen at
00:50:36.060
the Capitol that shouldn't have. Then you arrest those people. But do you notice, I don't believe
00:50:40.620
nobody was arrested, um, at the Capitol. You sort of see what I'm saying, but they want this to be the
00:50:46.780
be all. Yeah. They want this to be the narrative. And my deal is where is the committee on this, uh,
00:50:51.980
Afghanistan, uh, debacle there that happened, uh, August the 26th, when 13 service men and women,
00:50:59.500
uh, was killed. Where is the committee on that? I mean, where is the committee on all of these,
00:51:06.540
uh, millions or billions of dollars that's been, that's missing from the COVID fund or that was used
00:51:13.580
to house illegal aliens? You know, where is the committee on all that? Excuse me,
00:51:18.620
forget the committee. Where's the impeachment on that? Well, why isn't the Republicans impeaching
00:51:25.580
Biden? And not only that, they keep saying that they was trying to stop, uh, uh, the process of
00:51:31.380
certifying an election, uh, during that time, they was bringing out the evidence of what happened in
00:51:37.980
some of these states. That's right. When it pertains to the election. That's right. So let's get the
00:51:42.640
story right. So I think it's disheartening when you have this regime trying to create political
00:51:48.020
prosecution, uh, uh, and got people locked up that should be out of jail. I think it's a sad day in
00:51:54.900
America. It is sad to think that president Trump has for the past now six years, we're in our sixth
00:52:02.800
year. Uh, he was under FBI investigation before he was elected throughout his, uh, term as president
00:52:11.200
four years. And now, uh, through, uh, the past year district's attorney and attorneys general
00:52:17.540
going after this president, his family, it's political persecution, as you point out.
00:52:23.080
Yeah. And it's that straightforward. And by the way, the Republicans don't do that.
00:52:27.620
I was just about to say that where, where is the Republican party on that? You know,
00:52:32.040
when we had the house, the Senate, uh, did they do any investigation? And if they did,
00:52:36.820
why they didn't go to this is think where they, they got everybody. They never do that. And then
00:52:41.780
I see, I do see where, uh, uh, Jim Jordan is saying, you know, whenever we get the house back,
00:52:47.040
yeah, we're going to investigate this and we're going to investigate that. But it still makes me
00:52:50.800
wonder, are you really going to do that? I mean, you know, the, the faith in the Republican party for
00:52:56.500
me is really on a low surface now, because I look at the way that they did when it came to the 2020
00:53:01.880
election. I look at the way that they did when it comes down to, uh, throwing president Trump under the
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bus and backing that bus up, running back over president Donald J. Trump. And we, the American
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people, I look at the way that they do things. And I don't like that. They're not fighters like,
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like president Donald J. Trump, when president Donald J. Trump was the president and he was in
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there. A lot of that stuff, president Trump had to fight a lot of those battles alone because a lot
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of the people in the Republican party, I call them the rhinos did not want to fight. They don't know
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how to fight. And that's why the Democrat party continued to pundle over them and just,
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and just basically beat them down. All they have to do is call them racist and then Republicans
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go running somewhere. But it's time for all of us. We, the American people, I don't care if you're
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black, white, pinstripe, polka dot, or plaid, left wing, white, right wing, or in between. I don't
00:53:53.680
care who or what you are. We all are going to have to be the ones to stand up to this regime and to
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sustainable things that's happening in our country. That's right. Yeah. And you're so right
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about the, the rhinos in the Republican party, the Mitt Romneys, the Paul Ryans, they are so gutless,
00:54:11.440
so unprincipled, and they, they prance around like some sort of, uh, you know, the, the self-righteous
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bums they are. And, and they really need to get out, get out of the party, but the party more than
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that needs to get rid of them. Yeah. A choice. Uh, so, I mean, I would love to see that day
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because we all know that there would not have been a Republican in the white house, uh, after
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the election of 2016, if it were not for Donald Trump, you're right. That's right. And people forget
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he's the guy who showed this Republican party, how to fight, how to prevail. And at the end,
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he was standing alone without the help that he was, he was, which was his due for all that he did
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for the country. And for those Republicans to just fold up like cheap lawn chairs. Oh yeah.
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It's disgusting. And see, Luke, Luke, this is what, why anybody that gets elected to Congress or to
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Senate, they need to be true fighters and what needs to happen. These people need to be held
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accountable. Anybody that broke constitutional laws that have, uh, that have committed crimes
00:55:21.300
against humanity. I'm sorry. These people need to be locked up in jail because you're dangerous.
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You're dangerous to the American people and you're dangerous to America. How you going to live in
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America, obtain the American dream in America, but destroy America. That don't make no sense to me.
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Somebody need to be held accountable. Well, hopefully that will, that process will begin this fall.
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Uh, with the midterm elections and we're going to have to, uh, really, really try to discipline
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the Republican leadership because they're not natural winners. They're not, and they're not
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natural leaders. So we've got to figure out a way to, to help them along in this, uh, in this moment
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of opportunity, uh, diamond. So it's great for you guys. Uh, it's great of you to, to take some time
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and be with us here on the great America show. We, uh, we love you and we thank you and can't wait
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to talk to you again soon. All right. Thank you. Thank you for having us all the best ladies,
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all the best. And these ladies are the best. Uh, just terrific. Great Americans, great Americans.
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Well, that's our, that's our podcast for today. We thank you for being with us. Uh, we'll be seeing
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you here tomorrow. Uh, as they say, uh, same time, same station. If that works in podcasting,
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I'll work that out. Don't worry. See you tomorrow. Thanks for being with us and God bless you all.
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Join us again tomorrow for the great America podcast. Stay in the fight. Truth, justice,
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justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.
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