The Great America Show - June 16, 2023


JACK SMITH’S CASE WILL BE OBLITERATED


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Trump attorney Alina Haber joins us to discuss the latest in the Trump Indictment and her thoughts on it. President Trump is showing no signs of wavering in his support for his campaign and has raised over $6 million for it since last Friday.

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00:00:30.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and this is The Great America Show.
00:00:33.340 Great to have you with us. Welcome.
00:00:35.440 Quite a week it's been for America and quite a week for President Donald Trump.
00:00:39.880 President Trump now facing two criminal indictments, one in New York, one in Florida, a third potentially from the state of Georgia.
00:00:47.500 But President Trump is showing no signs of wavering or faltering.
00:00:51.400 Trump announcing on Truth Social that since last Friday, he's raised more than $6 million for his campaign.
00:00:57.680 A new polling for the president supports his incredible fundraising.
00:01:02.520 The latest polling from YouGov Economist from June 10th through 13th, post-indictment,
00:01:08.120 has President Trump with a very comfortable 30-plus point lead on Ron DeSantis and the field, leading in every primary state poll.
00:01:17.080 And with that great polling comes an overwhelming favorability index as well with Republicans.
00:01:22.480 A new Quinnipiac poll has the former president at a net favorability of 60 percent.
00:01:29.680 The more the Biden regime attacks President Trump, the better he does in the polls.
00:01:34.480 Those Marxist dims in the Biden regime are dying inside.
00:01:39.020 Joining us now is Trump attorney Alina Haber.
00:01:42.000 She represents President Trump in his New York cases with the Manhattan DA, Alvin Bragg, and the New York Attorney General, Letitia James.
00:01:50.340 Alina Haber, great to have you back with us here on The Great America Show.
00:01:54.800 Let's start with first your reaction to the arraignment of President Trump and how it went.
00:02:01.460 It went very smoothly.
00:02:04.380 You know, there were a little bit of delays, so it went a little longer than we had thought it would.
00:02:09.600 But, you know, it's very procedural, obviously, logistically.
00:02:13.760 As far as the actual arraignment in itself, I think, is insanity.
00:02:19.720 I think that the indictment's insanity and ridiculous.
00:02:24.180 And, you know, I could get into all the Presidential Records Act and everything else that everybody, I'm sure, has been hearing about for the last 24 hours.
00:02:31.560 But it's a joke, and it's very one-sided.
00:02:34.580 It is a joke, and as some of the country's very best attorneys and scholars have been explaining to my audience, the fact is the Presidential Records Act is the premise of the charges brought by this Marxist, dim activist, Jack Smith.
00:02:54.420 But do you have a sense of what that will mean in terms of the proceedings?
00:03:00.560 It's just an outrage.
00:03:02.380 I can tell you there isn't a – I haven't talked to a single person who is an outrage by what they're witnessing.
00:03:09.380 I think that's exactly right.
00:03:10.980 I think that it's – an outrage is a great way of saying it.
00:03:16.260 It's a dual system of justice, and everybody knows it.
00:03:19.400 And, you know, a lot of times I have to go out and explain to the public with some of these witch hunts, as he calls them, what exactly is going on.
00:03:28.300 And with this one, Lou, I just have not had to do that.
00:03:32.460 I effectively – people get it.
00:03:35.360 It's documents that he was allowed to take.
00:03:39.200 It's documents that he could only declassify summarily as the president.
00:03:45.000 And then they brought a case very quickly with a grand jury in Washington and moved it down to Florida so that there was no venue issues but showed – had a grand jury up in Washington, so they got a Washington grand jury.
00:03:59.860 I mean, when you get into the real nitty-gritty of it, it's obviously a little bit more complicated, but the American people just get it.
00:04:07.440 They get it.
00:04:08.000 It's very simple.
00:04:09.100 This is about politics.
00:04:11.400 It's un-American. 0.82
00:04:12.000 It's about politics.
00:04:12.960 And it's political.
00:04:13.660 And it is, as the president said, it's heinous.
00:04:20.180 It is absolutely a travesty.
00:04:23.260 And most – and all of the public opinion polling I've seen supports the president, supports him to the point that if he were to be convicted of something, they believe that he should be able to be president of the United States, irrespective.
00:04:38.840 And I can't even imagine, imagine this thing going beyond, frankly, ever going to trial.
00:04:46.620 It should be thrown out by any judge, even these rotten-to-the-core, corrupt, left-wing activist judges.
00:04:55.140 On its face, this is appalling and a horrible indictment.
00:05:01.080 It is.
00:05:02.080 It is a horrible indictment, not because it's an atrocity alone, but it's a horrible indictment because it's truly just a poor indictment.
00:05:08.320 I mean, it doesn't even make sense.
00:05:10.580 You're trying to make something illegal that's not – you're trying to make something using an espionage act.
00:05:15.960 The man didn't sell documents to China.
00:05:19.240 He wasn't bought by China for access.
00:05:21.500 That was actually the current crime family sitting in the White House.
00:05:25.880 So I'm not really understanding anything about this in a legal form.
00:05:31.960 For me, this is just a political forum and a political witch hunt.
00:05:36.740 And they're just – the funny thing is, Lou, it does the opposite effect.
00:05:41.100 If you look at his poll numbers, it's doing the opposite effect of what they want.
00:05:46.400 And I'm not sure when they're going to wisen up and see that they're actually helping him.
00:05:52.000 I mean, it is what it is.
00:05:56.380 And we also know who is a leader, who's been the most important and effective president in our lifetimes.
00:06:03.600 It is remarkable that the left continues to do what they've done.
00:06:10.260 They distract and deflect from the Biden – in this instance, the Biden $5 million bribery exposés that are coming out of the House Oversight Committee.
00:06:22.000 And the Senate in the form of Senator Grassley and his statements, the FBI, the Department of Justice.
00:06:30.180 I can recall the president saying that this government is crooked and people would scoff.
00:06:37.020 There is no one laughing about the Department of Justice and the FBI.
00:06:40.900 This is – I think this is, frankly, a mortal battle that we're witnessing here.
00:06:48.900 Either the corruption – the corrupt FBI and the Department of Justice are defeated and absolutely, I think, abolished.
00:06:57.320 I don't see how they can be rehabilitated or we simply lose the republic.
00:07:03.100 Yeah, I agree with that.
00:07:04.000 I agree with that completely.
00:07:05.360 I think those are the stakes.
00:07:06.620 I mean, you said it perfectly.
00:07:08.320 And it's like I said yesterday, right?
00:07:11.980 This isn't about them and caring about the country.
00:07:15.500 This is about their hatred for Donald Trump.
00:07:17.880 That's really all this is.
00:07:19.460 They don't care about the country.
00:07:21.240 That's clear.
00:07:22.140 They care about politics and they care about – they keep saying this – their famous line in all of my cases.
00:07:28.160 I have Letitia James in New York.
00:07:30.340 We have D.A. Bragg in New York.
00:07:31.680 We have all these people.
00:07:32.520 They love getting up and saying, no one is above the law.
00:07:37.180 But you're such a hypocrite.
00:07:40.420 You are the biggest offender of that because Hillary Clinton wasn't treated the same. 0.50
00:07:46.280 Joe Biden is not treated the same.
00:07:48.060 All these people are not treated the same.
00:07:50.700 So what the heck are they talking about?
00:07:54.040 Look in the mirror.
00:07:55.560 Look in the mirror.
00:07:57.100 It wasn't like this before.
00:07:59.180 Let me hear your opinion on what is at stake.
00:08:02.900 We're going to take a break here real quickly for a commercial break.
00:08:07.460 And we'll come right back to you.
00:08:09.660 What's at stake?
00:08:11.080 That's the question we'll be asking attorney Alina Haber here next on The Great America Show.
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00:09:41.680 We're back with Trump attorney Alina Haba.
00:09:44.500 And, Alina, again, great to have you here.
00:09:47.160 We're delighted to talk with you.
00:09:49.320 Just before the break, the issue is, what's at stake in your judgment for the president,
00:09:55.420 and what should we expect?
00:09:58.420 I mean, look, in the most simple state, if you ask an attorney what's at stake when you're looking at an indictment,
00:10:06.080 of course, what's at stake is the charges at hand and being charged and going through a trial and losing.
00:10:12.760 But what's realistically at stake?
00:10:15.360 Not very much, because this is a bogus indictment.
00:10:20.360 There's, this is one side of the story.
00:10:23.340 A grand jury that they select and the witnesses they select go in front of a grand jury.
00:10:30.460 We don't have lawyers in there. 0.58
00:10:32.220 We don't know what happens and we don't get a say.
00:10:34.980 So now we get a say.
00:10:36.880 So this is, this will be, you know, obliterated, like every other witch hunt that comes up with us.
00:10:43.520 And, in my opinion, what they wanted, they already got.
00:10:46.940 They wanted an indictment.
00:10:48.180 They wanted that headline.
00:10:49.520 And they got it.
00:10:50.820 But all it did was help the president in his polls and, frankly, project him way up,
00:10:56.760 if he wasn't already projected, which he was, as the leading candidate for the Republican Party.
00:11:01.040 So I don't see much, frankly, at stake with this one.
00:11:05.000 I see this as a nuisance.
00:11:07.320 Thank God he is heavily funded and can afford to sustain this witch hunt.
00:11:13.980 But I'm not concerned.
00:11:15.640 When I think what lawfare is doing to this country, what the legal profession is doing to this country,
00:11:21.140 what is the name of the group that is going after all of the attorneys who would work for Trump?
00:11:26.820 Is it Project 65?
00:11:28.440 I have that group who mean to destroy anyone who is helping, representing President Trump.
00:11:36.460 What is your reaction?
00:11:39.520 Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs.
00:11:42.900 You know, my work as an attorney, I find, and my work as an attorney for President Trump,
00:11:52.200 who's been with him for now several years, is an honor.
00:11:56.880 And the fact that they try and intimidate you with these claims or how they attack lawyers or they attack anybody in his orbit,
00:12:06.740 intimidate them.
00:12:07.940 It's sad and it's not right.
00:12:12.460 Everybody has a right to have competent, intelligent counsel.
00:12:18.520 And we're doing our jobs, you know, and to attack people for supporting someone in their profession and doing their job is just disgraceful.
00:12:27.800 It's disgraceful.
00:12:29.460 And, you know, any attorney involved in that should, frankly, be disbarred for doing that to people.
00:12:35.380 It's just not right.
00:12:36.280 I think, I'm just guessing, but I would think that the legal profession would lose more than half the attorneys in the country if that were the standard by which you could expunge them.
00:12:48.260 It is, I mean, I'm watching big law firms under the grip of this orthodoxy, if you will, on the left.
00:12:59.340 And they mean business.
00:13:00.840 They will get rid of a partner in an instant if he has or she has any kind of inkling to support Donald Trump or to support or to represent a client who is supporting President Trump.
00:13:14.680 It is awful.
00:13:16.540 It is awful.
00:13:17.740 But those attorneys, I wouldn't want to have work for me anyway.
00:13:22.620 And I wouldn't want them around President Trump.
00:13:25.940 We have a lot of attorneys that are Democrats, a lot.
00:13:31.060 And people don't realize that, you know, we're in the process of looking at attorneys to add on to the team in Florida.
00:13:37.740 And I can tell you that I think they were all Democrats and they reach out and they want to represent him.
00:13:46.260 It is an honor.
00:13:47.700 And they see also the corruption and even they can't take it.
00:13:53.820 So, you know, I mean, it's just not working.
00:13:56.360 The truth is it's not working.
00:13:57.760 And these big firms, God bless you.
00:14:00.620 But if I wouldn't want to work for them, you know, I've owned my own firm for almost 15 years, 10 years, 15 years, whatever it is, too long.
00:14:09.280 And I can just tell you that it's been the best blessing because I make those decisions and what's best and what principles I believe in for this country.
00:14:16.420 And I urge attorneys to really think about that, because if that's the kind of place you're working, what else are they controlling?
00:14:21.620 Well, one of the concerns is the judiciary itself.
00:14:27.940 The word is that Judge Cannon is under tremendous pressure to recuse herself, a Trump-appointed judge. 0.97
00:14:36.220 It will be, obviously, it'll be her trial. 0.96
00:14:41.780 That kind of pressure being put on a judge, shouldn't there be something in the canon of ethics that would prescribe that?
00:14:48.960 I wish.
00:14:50.980 I hope.
00:14:52.020 I think that if anybody crosses those lines, there are ethics.
00:14:55.700 You know, I mean, you know, I sued Hillary Clinton and I got sanctioned.
00:15:00.680 You know, God forbid I sue Hillary Clinton for doing something that came out in the Durham report. 0.99
00:15:06.040 Right.
00:15:06.820 You know, I'm a perfect example of that.
00:15:10.600 And that doesn't make me stop.
00:15:13.000 You have to, you know, I know what I did.
00:15:15.980 I knew what I did was right.
00:15:16.860 And then thank God the Durham report came out.
00:15:18.340 And Judge Cannon is, you know, she's a judge. 0.81
00:15:21.480 She's a great attorney. 0.99
00:15:22.800 She, you know, I have not sat before her, but any judge you would hope would not submit to those kinds of pressures.
00:15:30.100 But I will tell you, it's unfair.
00:15:31.280 And I've been on the other side of it.
00:15:32.820 And I feel for Judge Cannon and I feel for anybody who's being targeted because of who they represent or what their morals are and standing by them.
00:15:42.740 I just don't think that's right.
00:15:43.820 She has to feel pretty good about the fact that every, every, I shouldn't say every, but nearly all that I've spoken with and nearly all that I've read, legal experts have said that Judge Cannon made the right decision.
00:16:00.860 And the 11th Circuit Court was absolutely out of its mind.
00:16:03.940 Yeah, I hope she does.
00:16:07.060 I hope she does.
00:16:08.080 And, you know, for every bad article, and it feels, I know, when you're in that spot, it's difficult.
00:16:14.120 And for every bad article, she needs to remember there's a somewhat good article.
00:16:18.340 I'll never say it's easy because even the right wing media gets scared.
00:16:21.360 You know, Fox News, you look at some of these mainstream media and large venues, but they don't always do the right thing either.
00:16:29.720 And the left wing media seems to be very loud and very obnoxious.
00:16:34.440 And that's what we hear the most.
00:16:36.340 But that's not the American people. 0.53
00:16:38.440 You know, they see it.
00:16:39.300 They hear it.
00:16:39.900 And the people that care know better.
00:16:42.060 They know better.
00:16:42.600 They're watching the news.
00:16:43.460 They see it.
00:16:43.980 They know they know better.
00:16:44.880 And they'll take it to the polls.
00:16:46.240 They'll take it to the polls.
00:16:47.960 One last question.
00:16:49.020 How can the special counsel, Jack Smith, who has, at best, a checkered background as a prosecutor, how can he keep the names of his special counsel staff and attorneys secret from the American people?
00:17:04.100 Because the system is rigged.
00:17:06.620 You know, we have people deciding things like that.
00:17:11.920 Remember who Jack Smith reports to.
00:17:14.020 OK, eventually it's under Merrick Garland.
00:17:16.560 OK, he's not an independent special counsel.
00:17:19.020 He's under effectively the attorney general of this country.
00:17:22.380 And who is the attorney general going to protect?
00:17:25.820 Biden's.
00:17:27.040 And we're in an election.
00:17:28.800 And that's all that is.
00:17:30.560 That's really the best way I could explain it.
00:17:32.280 That is all that is.
00:17:33.100 That's more political warfare in the legal realm that has no place in it.
00:17:37.620 Well, we appreciate you being with us.
00:17:39.520 We're glad you're on the president's team.
00:17:41.380 And we appreciate your time today.
00:17:43.060 Elena Hava representing the president of the United States.
00:17:46.240 We're supposed to say former, but I'm just going to leave it at that.
00:17:50.180 The president of the United States, Donald Trump.
00:17:52.740 Elena, thanks so much.
00:17:53.980 Elena Hava.
00:17:54.560 Thanks, Lou.
00:17:55.300 Thank you.
00:17:56.100 And that's all for us this week.
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