JORDAN & GOP VS SWAMP & DEMS
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Jimmie Jordan fails to get 216 votes needed to become Speaker of the House of Representatives, but stays in the fight till it's done. Joe Biden's trip to the Middle East is a bust, and an embarrassing one at that.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being with
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us. Great to have you here. Joe Biden's trip to the Middle East was a bust and an embarrassing
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bust at that. It was more of a touch and go for Air Force One than a true diplomatic mission.
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Three of the leaders the president meant to talk with canceled the meeting as he departed
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Washington. Leaders of Palestine, Jordan and Egypt decided to say no thanks. The Iranian foreign
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minister sent out a tweet saying time is up for Israel, whatever that means. It turns out it means
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nothing. Another empty threat by the Iranians, referencing an explosion at Gaza Hospital that
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killed hundreds of people. But the foreign minister was pushing nothing more than Arab Street
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propaganda. What he didn't know was that the IDF, the Israeli Defense Forces, and U.S. intelligence
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had video evidence that the hospital was hit by a missile fired by the Palestinian Islamic
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Jihad that misfired and then hit the hospital. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu replied
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to the tweet from the Iranian foreign minister saying, quote,
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Israel lives. The people of Israel will win. And to that we say God bless and keep Israel.
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Turning now to the battle for speaker on Capitol Hill, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim
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Jordan came up short again of the 217 votes needed. In the second round of voting, Jordan only lost the
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support of one Republican. That man, a congressman by the name of Vern Buchanan, a 72-year-old
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congressman from Florida serving his 16th year in Congress, who apparently decided to just be as
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supercilious as possible and switched his vote to Byron Donalds, who doesn't want the vote.
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Jordan says he's staying in the fight till it's done. Ask about the establishment call to give
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speaker powers to the Speaker Pro Tem Patrick McHenry. Jordan said, we need to elect a Republican
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Speaker and not Patrick McHenry, who is, by the way, supporting Jordan.
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What do you think of these calls to introduce a resolution to empower McHenry to be the Speaker
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Pro Tem on a permanent basis? Would you support that?
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I don't think that's the right way to go. I think we should get a Republican Speaker.
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I got 90 percent of the Republicans in the conference supporting me.
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No, I mean, I think we should get a Republican Speaker. I've been very clear about that.
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I think that's where the conference is. That's what our rules suggest. So let's get a Republican
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Good for Jim Jordan staying in the fight against almost two dozen rhinos, a group that contains
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more than a few screwballs and daffodils. They're acting out their personal gripes and hurt feelings.
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And at some point, surely, we'll take this matter seriously because it is a serious matter.
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Another member of Congress who's taking great joy in this holdup of electing a Speaker
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is Marxist-Dim Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries. Take a listen to Comrade Jeffries. Take on why
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Jim Jordan could not make a good Speaker of the House no matter what.
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Jim Jordan clearly does not have the votes to be Speaker for good reason. Jim Jordan is the poster
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child for MAGA extremism. He is a clear and present danger to our democracy. There are many good
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men and women on the Republican side of the aisle who are qualified to be the Speaker of the House of
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Representatives. There is no circumstance where Jim Jordan is one of them.
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If the Marxist Minority Leader's speech sounded familiar, that's because he plagiarized that line
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from fellow Marxist Dem Nancy Pelosi. Here she is back in 2021 saying the very same thing about
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then-President Trump. We know that we faced enemies of the Constitution. We know we experienced the
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insurrection that violated the sanctity of the people's capital and attempted to overturn the
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duly recorded will of the American people. And we know that the President of the United States
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incited this insurrection, this armed rebellion against our common country. He must go. He is a clear
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and present danger to the nation that we all love. Marxist Dem plagiarism. It seems contagious for
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them. It started with Joe Biden in the good old days and then is now carried by Hakeem Jeffries.
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Tough fella, by the way, with all that clear and present danger stuff, don't you think? Scary.
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We still need a Speaker of the House. Jim Jordan says he's in the fight all the way. Congressman Keith
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Self of Texas and I talked after the second round of voting for Jordan, and now here he is with us.
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Congressman Self, great to have you with us here on The Great America Show. If we use Kevin McCarthy's
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experience as a guide, there could be at least another dozen rounds of voting. Is this just a first
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phase or what should we expect? I think you should expect this to go a bit longer. It's going as
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expected. We expected to lose some votes today for Jim Jordan. In fact, it was better than expected.
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We thought the loss could be five or six, and it was a net loss of one, which we thought was very good.
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Remember, McCarthy actually lost three during his January 15 votes. So I said this morning that this
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truly is a heavyweight fight. So in a boxing match, heavyweight fight goes 12 rounds. You know,
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12 rounds might be reasonable because we're going to have to have some more time for people to get
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over what they have angst about, what they're frustrated about, and come over to the conference
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nominee, which is Jim Jordan. You know, I kind of get a kick out of this. I've been watching
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Congresses for a long time. I've been watching the political process. But I get a kick out of
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the game of expectations. And the establishment now is saying, my gosh, it's already in the second
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round, and he's going to lose, they said, two votes. But the truth of the matter is, in January,
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just January of this very year, the previous speaker went 15 rounds in four days of votes.
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It is, on that level, amusing. On another level, I'm deeply concerned because I see really just
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frivolity, triviality on the part of the members of the holdout 20, if you will. It's really
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Well, Lou, in January, we stood for something. We needed the rules to change the trajectory of
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the way Congress worked. Today, they're not asking for anything. They're just mad. They're
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just frustrated. They're just the appropriators, the defense hawks, and they want to just protect
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their appropriations. Because those are the money that truly do control the power and the money in
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Washington, D.C. There are those of us that came to Congress to change that trajectory, to change the
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And good for you for doing so, because if ever a change were needed, this is it. We've got a host of
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major issues facing the country, as you well know. You're there to fix it. But a deficit,
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we're talking about $2 trillion deficits that could rise, well, I was going to say exponentially,
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but not quite that bad. But when you're talking about a trillion dollars a whack, it gets to be
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serious money, as the old saying goes. And having those $2 trillion deficits, as we look at a 33 and
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growing a trillion dollar national debt. We've reached a point where we're actually now spending
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more money in covering the debt because these interest rates are rising. We're spending more
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money to service the debt, to pay for the debt that we are for our own military. It's insane.
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And Lou, I think the American people are waking up because they see the inflation that they're
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enduring. They hear the debt. They see the issues on the southern border. Their frustration and anger
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with the federal government is real out there. And frankly, we're seeing it in the phone calls that
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they are making to their Republican congressmen. Everyone is getting slammed. I mean, some of their
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phones are busy, continuously busy, because people are telling them, we need to get a Republican
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speaker. Don't talk about a bipartisan government. Don't talk about a Democrat speaker of the House.
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We want a Republican speaker, and we want it now. Absolutely. And meanwhile, we've got some,
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and I'm going to say it this way, we've got some fools voting for John Boehner, Lee Zeldin.
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Really? I mean, do these screwballs understand that the American people watching them know
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that that is just frivolous, that it's a waste of time, and it's plain, as far as I'm concerned,
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ignorant? Well, I think they are listening to their constituents and realizing that they need to make
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a change. I think the establishment understands the fight that they are in, that we are going to change
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the trajectory of Congress. We are going to have a conservative Speaker of the House, which we
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haven't had in recent memory. Somebody that is going to change our fiscal policies, that's going
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to actually go through the budget process on time, as it's supposed to be, and hold some of these
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appropriators and the committees accountable. It's what we need in the Speaker of the House. That's the
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leader of the House. We cannot let up on this. Now, we, as members of Congress, are not applying
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pressure to them. We're trying to point out where we think they need to go, but it's the grassroots.
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It's the grassroots organizations that are applying the pressure today.
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Well, and I am delighted. We use that capital switchboard number quite often on this podcast,
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and it's a delight to know that some folks are using it because they really do need to get engaged.
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This is, we're in too critical a period of our history, whether it's our foreign policy, whether
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it is our domestic policy, our fiscal policy, everything is in tatters because of this administration.
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I could never, to be just absolutely straightforward about this, folks, I could never have imagined
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in my worst nightmare politically that even a Marxist dem like Joe Biden and his acolytes who came into
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this to make up his regime could do this much damage to the United States in such a short period
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of time. I've got to ask you, Congressman, could you have imagined this?
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No, I couldn't have, but we've seen it coming for a while. Once Congress started abdicating its
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responsibility to the departments and the agencies, that's when you started seeing the executive branch
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do well beyond the Constitution. They have taken Article 2, Article 1 authority,
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and they have expanded it so that Congress really doesn't have the authority we should have.
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And you see it in the executive orders that are passed. You see it in the Fed. You see it in the
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entire federal government taking authorities that they don't really have under the Constitution.
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Well, you're absolutely correct, historically. I mean, it started really fast-tracking as the expression
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became, fast-tracking the stamping of agreements on commerce, international trade. Rather than
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seeking government approval, you know, we'll just fast-track that and let it go. And still doing so
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only on steroids now. Is there, in your judgment, and I know this to some may seem a little in the
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weeds, but is there a movement in the Congress right now to reclaim the responsibility? You'll
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always have that responsibility because it's written into the Constitution. I mean, it's been what's been
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given away to reclaim that authority. Do you know we had that discussion in a conference several nights
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ago now, before the weekend, I guess. And one of the chairmen, I'm not going to name him, made that
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exact point, that that is the real crux of the problem. We can deal with the symptoms, but until
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we get to that root cause, which is Congress has ceded its authority to the executive branch, we're not
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going to be able to do much about it. We've got to get there. You're exactly right, Lou. I appreciate
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you making that point. And one of our chairmen very eloquently made that point in conference.
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Well, that's good. And we're going to take a quick break here, Congressman, and come back. We're
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talking with Congressman Keith Self, and we're going to take up what Congress is doing next and
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just how Jim Jordan gets to the speakership, and we hope soon. We'll be right back. Stay with us.
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We'll come back now with Congressman Keith Self, and we're talking about Congress and its
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responsibilities. And the first responsibility in this moment is to get a speaker elected.
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As we look at what is happening here, to hear the minority leader of the, what I call the Marxist
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Dems in the House, this man sounded like a communist for crying out loud. And I'm talking about Hakeem
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Jeffries as he attacked Jim Jordan, talking about the clear and present danger he poses to the
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republic. He stole that line, by the way, from Nancy Pelosi in 2021. That's what she said about
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then President Trump. It was an ignorant and I think remarkably classless statement.
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Your thoughts about what they're trying to accomplish as they're stirring things up in the midst of this
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moment of indecision about who will be speaker. I have a couple of thoughts. First of all,
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it was a nominating speech. He should have talked about his nomination, the man or woman that he was
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putting into nomination. He did not. He talked about our nominee. I just, I think it was not a nominating
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speech. And secondly, I will say what they are doing to Jim Jordan is exactly what happened to Robert
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Bork and Clarence Thomas years ago for their nominations to the, their nominations to the
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Supreme Court. This is personal assassination, character assassination. And that's what they're
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trying to do. I, this morning, I talked about Morton Blackwell years ago. He said, if, if you don't have
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something they can use against you, they will make it up. This is what happens today when you rise to high
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office. It just is, uh, it's the, it's the, uh, playbook of the Marxist Dems, as you say. And I will
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tell you, the American people are tired of this. Uh, this is why we get called the swamp up here when
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we go this route. If the swamp, I, we put out a podcast entitled, uh, Jim Jordan, uh, clear and
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present, uh, danger to the swamp, because that's, what's really happening here. Uh, that the swamp is
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unleashing everything. It's got the, the establishment to, to, to bring in new Gingrich,
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former speaker of the house, John Boehner, former speaker of the house, and then tell us all that
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it's there. It's just fine. If you want to, we, we could extend the powers of the speaker pro Tim
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Patrick McHenry, and he'll be just fine. If you just, you know, extend those authorities and
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establish that. I couldn't believe the rank clumsiness and amateurish nonsense that those
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two participated in. And I'm, I'm, I'm embarrassed for them, uh, for them to participate in that.
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Well, Lou, uh, let me tell you, this is now bigger than Jim Jordan. You just pointed out, uh,
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the establishment, the swamp, whatever you want to call them. They are in full mode right now,
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full attack mode against Jim Jordan, but that's because it's bigger than Jim Jordan.
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They see an actual threat to the power and money that they control. And I think they realize now
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this is a real threat, something we've been moving toward since January in this Congress.
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We've had some missteps. We've used Democrat votes, uh, to pass a couple of very important bills.
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Uh, but this is why I talk about TNT, Lou, uh, that is Trump and Tuberville. Trump is so successful.
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Why? Because he fights for the American people and Tuberville is actually holding the line. And
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the best line of all is when, uh, Senator Tuberville says, I'm not the one breaking the law.
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Those two are fighting righteous fights for the American people.
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Senator Tuberville standing up just for those who may not be familiar with the, the, the stand that
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he's taken. And it's, it's been going for nine months now. Uh, he has frozen, uh, general officer
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promotions, uh, for, for all that time. And it's driving people crazy. And I love the fact that, uh,
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former CIA director, former NSA director, general Michael Hayden, uh, said that Tuberville should be
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dismissed from the human race effectively. Uh, and then tried to skirt around it with his language
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saying, well, I, I didn't say it that way, but he did say it and intended it exactly that way.
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Uh, Tuberville puts him up, uh, turns him into the Capitol police and, uh, calls for a criminal,
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uh, referral, uh, which I think by the way is too good a treatment for general Hayden. He is a
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establishment, uh, ogre, uh, and an icon in his own mind. Uh, your thoughts about that, the standing
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against the woke policies of the military, standing against the abortion policies of the U S military,
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Lou, I was in the U S army. Uh, I was an infantry officer, special forces, uh, and air and airborne
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for much of my career and 10 years overseas and joint assignments. Uh, you said it exactly right.
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This is not the military in which I served. Uh, we have got to, and frankly, in the DOD
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appropriations bills and several of the appropriations bills, we've got policy writers
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that pull out the DEI, the wokeness, uh, that does not fund abortion that says they will not fund
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abortion or abortion travel. So those are the appropriations bills that one, we need to get to
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the Senate. We, we funded 70% of the government with the bills we passed to include DOD and state
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and foreign ops. The Senate has not taken them up. Uh, so those writers are still active in the
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bills that we have passed. So Senator Tuberville is doing a excellent job. And frankly, he's not
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hurting national security. Uh, those people are, are still in their positions. They're still doing
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what they need to be to do. And, uh, and until I think the DOD changes that policy, uh, he will
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probably stand firm. Um, I will tell you, uh, my coffee cup that's sitting on my desk right now
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is, uh, Winston Churchill. It says, never, never, never give up Winston Churchill. If anybody knew about
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not, not giving up, it was Winston Churchill. You better believe it. You just, uh, chose one of my
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favorite, uh, historical, uh, figures and, uh, and he's, you know, he's partially, he's half American.
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So that, you know, I'm not betraying the country or anything of that sort. I, Congressman, we always
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give our guests, uh, the, the last, uh, the last word here. Uh, I, your thoughts, uh, is, uh, we get
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ready for yet another vote, uh, for Speaker of the House. I am with Jim Jordan. I think Jim Jordan
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is going to hold firm. I think we are going, uh, to several more rounds. I am convinced that Jim
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Jordan is going to stay in. And as long as Jim Jordan is in, I am in, and I know we have a, uh,
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a group of people that are standing with me behind Jim Jordan. Now he's used to being in the ring
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by himself. He's in the ring today, but we're standing in support of Jim Jordan and we will
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continue to do that. And I just encourage your, your listeners to, to keep calling. The grassroots
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are making a difference. They've actually flipped a couple of votes. I just encourage them to keep
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it up. Thank you so much, Lou. Thank you, Congressman. We appreciate it. Congressman Keith
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Self, thanks so much for being with us. You bet. Thank you. Thanks to Congressman Keith Self.
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Thanks everybody for being with us. Our guest here tomorrow on the Great America Show will
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be Congressman Ben Klein on all that's riding on the outcome of the Speaker's vote. Please
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