The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1015 - Reggie Watts

00:00:00.000 September.

00:00:00.000 9th.

00:00:03.000 There we go.

00:00:04.000 God.

00:00:05.000 Completed my homework.

00:00:06.000 Boom.

00:00:07.000 So what was the day that we were supposed to die from Nibiru?

00:00:11.000 I think it was the 20th.

00:00:13.000 It was Saturday.

00:00:14.000 Yeah.

00:00:14.000 23rd, is that right?

00:00:15.000 23rd?

00:00:16.000 Yeah.

00:00:16.000 What was it, Jamie?

00:00:16.000 33 days after the eclipse.

00:00:18.000 Oh, then Nibiru was going to come and smash us.

00:00:21.000 Isn't it huge?

00:00:22.000 Wouldn't we see it coming?

00:00:22.000 Yeah.

00:00:23.000 Pretty big.

00:00:23.000 It has to be pretty big.

00:00:25.000 It has to be pretty big.

00:00:25.000 Do you know the whole Zacharias Hitchin thing?

00:00:27.000 Do you know the whole thing?

00:00:28.000 A little bit, yeah.

00:00:29.000 I was kind of into that for a while.

00:00:31.000 Me too.

00:00:31.000 It was a while ago that I realized I was like super into it, like Art Bell days.

00:00:37.000 Yeah!

00:00:38.000 I used to love Art Bell days.

00:00:40.000 Remember when his son got kidnapped?

00:00:42.000 Oh, that's right.

00:00:43.000 Remember that?

00:00:43.000 Who kidnapped his son?

00:00:44.000 It was really weird.

00:00:45.000 I don't know.

00:00:45.000 Was it real?

00:00:46.000 I couldn't tell if it was real or not.

00:00:47.000 That was the problem.

00:00:49.000 I used to listen to it coming home from the comedy store.

00:00:51.000 It was the thing to listen to.

00:00:53.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:00:53.000 10 o'clock, late night, driving home.

00:00:55.000 Yeah, totally.

00:00:57.000 Art Bell, man.

00:00:57.000 Midnight, Art Bell.

00:00:59.000 Live from Pahrump, Nevada.

00:01:01.000 Yeah, Pahrump.

00:01:02.000 He had this fenced-in compound in Pahrump, Nevada with a radio signal.

00:01:08.000 In a lot of ways, he was doing internet before the internet.

00:01:14.000 Yeah, yeah, you're right.

00:01:15.000 He was kind of like an aggregator, like a curator.

00:01:19.000 I mean, he was a curator, he was conscious curation, but it...

00:01:23.000 Is that what you mean?

00:01:24.000 Like the content of what he was talking about?

00:01:26.000 Well, it was also like there's a lot of...

00:01:29.000 I would say there's a lot more people that have access to like UFO conspiracy theory type stuff now because of the internet.

00:01:38.000 And before then, Art Bell was like your only source for that.

00:01:41.000 Oh, I got you.

00:01:41.000 Right, right, right.

00:01:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:01:43.000 The deep cuts.

00:01:44.000 Yeah, that kind of stuff.

00:01:46.000 What is this?

00:01:47.000 His son kidnapping is pretty dark.

00:01:49.000 Son assaulted by HIV teacher?

00:01:51.000 Oh Jesus, let's not put that on.

00:01:56.000 There's some people out there.

00:01:57.000 Yeah, I know.

00:01:58.000 But Art Bell had this crazy fenced-in compound that literally looked like it was in the middle of this open prairie.

00:02:05.000 I never saw pictures of it.

00:02:07.000 Yeah, they put pictures online.

00:02:08.000 Who knows what I was looking at?

00:02:10.000 It might not even been that.

00:02:11.000 It might have been, like, he faked people out with this.

00:02:13.000 He probably might live in a regular house.

00:02:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:18.000 You want him to live in that situation.

00:02:20.000 I hope.

00:02:21.000 Yeah.

00:02:21.000 Because he's kind of like a, you know, in a way, he was like a mystic.

00:02:24.000 Those types of people, they're kind of like mystics.

00:02:26.000 They're hermits.

00:02:27.000 They live in, like, these weird places because they have to be, you know, in the right conditions to receive the information.

00:02:32.000 Yeah, there's his house.

00:02:33.000 See, it's all, like, fenced in.

00:02:35.000 Oh, wow.

00:02:36.000 Yeah.

00:02:36.000 That's a very large...

00:02:38.000 That's a weird...

00:02:38.000 Well, that's a weird...

00:02:40.000 Someone's going over the fence.

00:02:42.000 Look, he's got windmills for electricity.

00:02:45.000 Wow.

00:02:46.000 He's got some big sort of truck he's got backed in there where he gets probably supplies.

00:02:50.000 He's a total prepper.

00:02:51.000 Oh, my God.

00:02:53.000 That's amazing.

00:02:54.000 Our pal was incredible.

00:02:56.000 That's, and it's blue, is it a bluish teal or something like that?

00:03:00.000 It is so like a Beverly Hills rundown motel color, you know?

00:03:05.000 Is it Rambler?

00:03:06.000 You know, like off tans and off blues?

00:03:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:10.000 Look at that tower, the radio tower.

00:03:12.000 It's so huge. 1.00

00:03:13.000 This giant fucking tower in the middle of his yard. 1.00

00:03:15.000 That can't give you cancer, can it? 1.00

00:03:17.000 No.

00:03:18.000 Should be, right?

00:03:19.000 No.

00:03:19.000 Sure, something's going on.

00:03:20.000 No, it would never, it would never do anything.

00:03:22.000 What's that other one?

00:03:23.000 I don't know.

00:03:24.000 That's a...

00:03:24.000 Oh, I know what that is.

00:03:25.000 That's a...

00:03:26.000 I think that's a TV aerial, isn't it?

00:03:28.000 Yeah, maybe it is a radio.

00:03:29.000 Maybe it's a radio, but it looks like an old-school TV thing. 0.98

00:03:32.000 These are fucking huge towers he has. 0.98

00:03:34.000 I know, because he must... 0.99

00:03:35.000 Yeah, because he used...

00:03:36.000 He probably...

00:03:37.000 He did.

00:03:37.000 He broadcasts from there.

00:03:38.000 So, yeah, in a way, that's another, like, internet reference.

00:03:41.000 Art Bell was the first time I heard of Terence McKenna outside of a Bill Hicks joke.

00:03:46.000 One Bill Hicks joke.

00:03:47.000 Oh, right.

00:03:49.000 He referenced, he said, he was talking about five grams of dried mushrooms or what Terence McKenna would refer to as a heroic dose.

00:03:56.000 Yes.

00:03:57.000 And I was like, wow, who's Terence McKenna?

00:03:58.000 Yeah.

00:03:59.000 And then I heard Terence McKenna on the Art Bell show live from Hawaii.

00:04:03.000 What?

00:04:03.000 Terrence McKenna had this crazy setup in Hawaii where he lived in Kona on the mountain, and he was totally off the grid, but way more than Art Bell.

00:04:14.000 He was in the jungle, off the grid.

00:04:15.000 He would have these basins to catch rainwater.

00:04:18.000 He had several acres around him, which he was growing psychedelic plants.

00:04:22.000 He had a thousand books.

00:04:24.000 He lived totally by himself.

00:04:26.000 He had like a generator for power, and he was completely off the grid, and he built the house there.

00:04:31.000 Wow.

00:04:32.000 Dude!

00:04:33.000 That's heavy.

00:04:34.000 He's just up there writing and tripping, and then he would leave, like, every six months. 0.75

00:04:39.000 He would take off and leave for six months and just do these tours where he would do these speaking things in, like, hippie places like Austin, Texas, and, you know, Portland, Oregon, and shit like that.

00:04:51.000 And they would gather around all these people to listen to all of his stuff.

00:04:55.000 Yeah.

00:04:55.000 And have you ever heard Psychedelic Salon?

00:04:57.000 Uh-uh.

00:04:58.000 Psychedelic Salon's a podcast, a great podcast, and I've had Lorenzo from Psychedelic Salon on, but it's all like old recordings of Timothy Leary and Alan Watts.

00:05:09.000 Are you related?

00:05:10.000 No, I wish, man.

00:05:11.000 You wish? 1.00

00:05:12.000 That would be the shit. 1.00

00:05:12.000 I really wish that I was related to him. 1.00

00:05:14.000 That would be rather nice.

00:05:15.000 Profound and with an English accent.

00:05:18.000 Yes, he's very careful.

00:05:19.000 But he has all the McKenna recordings, all of them, way back through time.

00:05:25.000 He plays them all the time.

00:05:26.000 McKenna was which time period?

00:05:28.000 I sometimes get them fused with Leary.

00:05:31.000 No, he was post-Leary, but he was there.

00:05:33.000 You know, he was there during that era, but he came into prominence post-Leary.

00:05:37.000 I think his main psychedelic experiences were in the 70s.

00:05:42.000 Like, he had some really, really crazy mushroom trips with his brother Dennis, who's an amazing guy.

00:05:48.000 Oh, that's right.

00:05:48.000 Dennis is alive.

00:05:49.000 He's alive.

00:05:49.000 He's been on this podcast several times.

00:05:51.000 He's a great guy.

00:05:52.000 He's amazing.

00:05:53.000 And he's actually a professor.

00:05:55.000 And Dennis, like, recounts all these tales.

00:05:59.000 And one time, Terrence and Dennis went into the jungle, and they took too many mushrooms.

00:06:03.000 And Dennis completely lost his mind, like, went away for two weeks.

00:06:08.000 Whoa.

00:06:08.000 For two weeks.

00:06:09.000 Just incoherent, rambling, had some sort of a psychotic event.

00:06:14.000 Like, and just...

00:06:16.000 Like broke down the nature of reality itself.

00:06:18.000 Just went way too deep.

00:06:20.000 It was gone for like two weeks.

00:06:22.000 They had to watch him.

00:06:23.000 They had to watch over him.

00:06:24.000 Oh my god.

00:06:25.000 It's almost like he was exposed to such a complicated mathematical equation.

00:06:30.000 And it took him that long to figure it out.

00:06:32.000 And he came out of it.

00:06:33.000 He's like, okay, I figured it out.

00:06:34.000 I'm back.

00:06:35.000 Well, you know, Terrence came up with the idea of the stoned ape theory.

00:06:40.000 And it wasn't just Terrence.

00:06:42.000 It was Terrence, along with a lot of other psychedelic researchers, they sort of formulated some of the parts of this hypothesis.

00:06:49.000 But the parts of this hypothesis had to deal with human beings evolving from lower primates because the lower primates were forced to try out new foods because...

00:06:59.000 The rainforests were receding in the grasslands, and all these undulates who were eating up all the plants as they were growing up, they were shitting.

00:07:06.000 And they were leaving cow patties, and in these cow patties, the mushrooms, of course, would grow.

00:07:11.000 So these monkey people-like things that were us, that were living in the trees, they were forced to test out new food sources. 1.00

00:07:19.000 And it coincides, this theory coincides with climate data that we know about changing of the temperatures back in Africa during that time, in these particular regions.

00:07:29.000 And he thinks that these lower primates started experimenting with mushrooms. 0.98

00:07:34.000 They'd flip cow patties all the time to get beetles and bugs and things along those lines. 0.80

00:07:38.000 And so they would flip it, and they would pick these mushrooms out to see if they could eat them.

00:07:43.000 Well, in low doses, mushrooms enhance visual acuity, so it would help you be a better hunter, makes you more sensitive, and it makes you more horny, which would make you more likely to breed.

00:07:54.000 So you would be much more likely to be a successful hunter and more likely to breed.

00:07:58.000 That's like a triple threat right there.

00:08:02.000 Crazy!

00:08:02.000 And that's outside of the psychedelic effects, right?

00:08:05.000 The psychedelic effects of enhancing community, of creative thinking, all these things that happen when you do mushrooms in varying doses.

00:08:13.000 And he believes that mushrooms are responsible for the doubling of the human brain size over a period of two million years, which is apparently the biggest mystery in the fossil record.

00:08:23.000 Yeah, it's so quick.

00:08:25.000 Yeah, so quick.

00:08:26.000 It's crazy.

00:08:26.000 It's a total departure.

00:08:28.000 And it's the organ responsible for the fossil record in the first place.

00:08:31.000 Right.

00:08:31.000 Exactly.

00:08:32.000 For the understanding of what a fossil record is.

00:08:34.000 And the reason why we're writing all this stuff down.

00:08:37.000 I mean, it's because of the mine.

00:08:38.000 Well, this mine doubled over a period of two million years.

00:08:41.000 And I think what they think is there's a bunch of different factors.

00:08:44.000 And people argue about this, but I think it's important.

00:08:46.000 Really important to be balanced about this and go, I don't think if it's either or. 0.99

00:08:51.000 I think there was a bunch of shit going on. 0.99

00:08:53.000 Yeah, absolutely. 1.00

00:08:54.000 They think it had to do with humans figuring out fire and how to cook meat.

00:08:57.000 They think cooking meat allowed people to get more nutrients, which allowed people to be healthier.

00:09:03.000 And if you can kill one animal, you'd have more resources to sort of figure things out.

00:09:07.000 They started thinking of shelters and weapons and all these different various things that led to civilization.

00:09:13.000 There's one theory that goes along that way.

00:09:15.000 Trade.

00:09:15.000 Yeah, trade.

00:09:15.000 The throwing arm is another one.

00:09:17.000 The fact that we could throw, that we could throw things, we could hit shit that was nowhere near us, like no other animal.

00:09:25.000 And then once we figured out Spears, this ability to do this one thing might have led us to enough free time to start innovating. 0.60

00:09:33.000 And then the brain, as time went on, favored the ones who were more innovative and more disciplined and more creative.

00:09:40.000 And those are the ones that survive longer.

00:09:42.000 Which is obviously what we reward in people today.

00:09:44.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:09:45.000 That's true.

00:09:46.000 Fascinating.

00:09:47.000 That hasn't gone away.

00:09:47.000 No, that hasn't gone away.

00:09:48.000 That totally makes sense.

00:09:50.000 I mean, it's like, you know, I view, in general, the idea of awareness and consciousness as a...

00:09:56.000 As a metaphor, many people use it, but just like a computer operating system.

00:10:01.000 Or consciousness experiencing itself infinitely.

00:10:05.000 But that's this form of an operating system.

00:10:08.000 We live in a binary version of isolate, which is kind of like a game to then rediscover the fact that that's not true.

00:10:22.000 It is true, but it's also not true.

00:10:24.000 To arrive at the paradox.

00:10:26.000 The answer of the thing that happens within a paradox, like a good joke.

00:10:31.000 Right, right, right.

00:10:32.000 When you're like, here's the setup, here's the punchline.

00:10:35.000 And so somewhere when those two things collide in a group of people, it will trigger a reaction.

00:10:43.000 And if it's laughter, in that moment, it's understanding a paradox.

00:10:48.000 It's like feeling the effects of a paradox, where it actually...

00:10:53.000 Right.

00:10:53.000 A very unique moment.

00:10:55.000 A crazy thing that, like, you didn't expect to experience because it's so different than everything else you experience in everyday life.

00:11:01.000 Yeah, it's like everything and nothing simultaneously.

00:11:04.000 Like, you get that quick, like, boosh, because a joke kind of does that, at least in my opinion.

00:11:08.000 And that makes you feel like it gives everyone a sense of enlightenment for a moment.

00:11:15.000 I know what you're saying.

00:11:15.000 I don't think a joke does it the way a psychedelic experience does it.

00:11:18.000 Definitely, there's like this weird moment when you're laughing at someone who's really killing.

00:11:22.000 Like when you, like you, you escape from your, the shackles of your normal thinking.

00:11:28.000 Yes.

00:11:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

00:11:29.000 And you, and you, it's just a joyfulness because it's, it's like you get this perspective.

00:11:34.000 It's like such a zoomed out perspective on this thing in such a small instant of time that it's just like, it's like being on a ride, you know, it's like you're just suddenly there and you're like, Do you feel like when, I've been talking about this a lot, do you feel like that what's going on is like a form of hypnosis?

00:11:52.000 When a comedian is like killing over a crowd, like it's like a form of hypnosis?

00:11:56.000 Because I always feel like when I'm watching someone on stage and they really got me, I'm not really thinking, I'm kind of allowing them to think for me and I'm just like sitting down smiling and enjoying the ride they take me on.

00:12:07.000 I'm not doing any analyzing myself.

00:12:10.000 That's one of the reasons why it's very important to really think carefully about people's attention spans and how to get these ideas into their head.

00:12:19.000 I think it is, in a way, a state of mind that you achieve on stage that's very similar to hypnosis.

00:12:27.000 Yeah, you're talking about the effect on people and the idea of what's happening.

00:12:33.000 I think the comedian as well, because I feel like it's my job to put all the pieces together and practice it and just tweak it.

00:12:40.000 But when I get on stage and it starts happening, I feel like I'm as much of a passenger as I am the driver.

00:12:46.000 Oh, man.

00:12:47.000 Yeah, that's a really great description.

00:12:49.000 Yeah, I agree with that 100%.

00:12:50.000 I mean, you know, like sometimes I'll say that the feeling that I get on stage, if I'm, you know, making music or even just like riffing or whatever, is that I feel like I'm actually, I'm watching the show or I actually step out of myself and I'm actually kind of enjoying the show. 0.97

00:13:07.000 And then there'll be a moment where I'll be like, oh, fuck, right. 0.62

00:13:10.000 I'm also doing that. 0.98

00:13:12.000 When you can't enjoy it too much.

00:13:14.000 I'll snap back in.

00:13:15.000 But in those moments, that's exactly...

00:13:18.000 I dig that.

00:13:20.000 Because it exists.

00:13:21.000 It just depends on where your awareness lands.

00:13:23.000 You know what I always feel like, man?

00:13:24.000 I always feel like the dude running the old school movie projector.

00:13:27.000 You really just kind of turn it on, but you have to be there in case anything fucks up.

00:13:32.000 For the most part, it runs on its own.

00:13:34.000 Do you remember how it didn't used to, though, when you'd go to the movies?

00:13:37.000 Yeah, there was an operator.

00:13:39.000 There was just someone next to it, just in case something fucked up. 0.81

00:13:42.000 Do you remember when movies fucked up and you'd have to yell out? 0.79

00:13:45.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:46.000 I do remember that.

00:13:47.000 The film's down!

00:13:48.000 Those are great!

00:13:49.000 I know, those are great communal moments.

00:13:51.000 In retrospect, those are great!

00:13:52.000 Absolutely. 0.97

00:13:53.000 Yeah, the fuck-ups, the chaos, that's great. 0.97

00:13:55.000 Yeah, man. 0.98

00:13:56.000 That's the community.

00:13:56.000 That's a real test of character to see whether you talk in a movie theater.

00:14:00.000 Oh, yeah.

00:14:01.000 What do you mean?

00:14:01.000 Like the kind of people that talk in movie theaters.

00:14:04.000 Like during a movie?

00:14:05.000 Yeah.

00:14:05.000 Like you really know whether or not you can hang out with someone if they talk in a movie theater.

00:14:08.000 Yes.

00:14:09.000 Absolutely.

00:14:10.000 100%.

00:14:10.000 Because if someone starts talking in the movie theater, you're like, hey, you're inconsiderate.

00:14:13.000 Yeah.

00:14:14.000 Oh, totally.

00:14:15.000 Or unless, for me, I have this little secret.

00:14:17.000 If it's a brief comment, I don't really mind so much.

00:14:23.000 But yeah, that's the secret.

00:14:24.000 Get really quiet and get close to their ear.

00:14:26.000 And don't whisper.

00:14:28.000 Just speak in kind of a, like, hey, you know, what am I thinking?

00:14:30.000 Right.

00:14:31.000 Because the higher your whisper is, it's much more sibilant and everyone can hear it.

00:14:37.000 So whispers are actually louder than a hushed tone. 0.99

00:14:40.000 And there's also the people that just start talking about normal shit. 0.99

00:14:43.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

00:14:44.000 Totally has nothing to do with the movie.

00:14:47.000 Debbie called.

00:14:48.000 What? 1.00

00:14:48.000 We're watching Ex Machina, you asshole. 1.00

00:14:51.000 This guy's going to get killed by a robot lady. 1.00

00:14:54.000 Totally.

00:14:55.000 Come on, aren't you interested in seeing how that even comes to be? 1.00

00:14:58.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:15:00.000 She's about to kill him. 1.00

00:15:01.000 Troy was really angry the other day. 0.81

00:15:04.000 What?

00:15:04.000 Troy?

00:15:05.000 Are you talking about Troy when we're at the movies? 1.00

00:15:07.000 This is Avatar 2, motherfucker. 0.99

00:15:09.000 What's going on? 1.00

00:15:10.000 Shit's in three... 1.00

00:15:10.000 I'm wearing glasses. 1.00

00:15:11.000 Totally.

00:15:13.000 That's the crazy thing.

00:15:14.000 Hey, you know, it's just coming out this fall.

00:15:17.000 I don't know.

00:15:18.000 It's just really weird.

00:15:19.000 We're watching something now. 0.98

00:15:20.000 Who gives a fuck what's going to happen in the future? 0.99

00:15:22.000 You might not even be alive. 1.00

00:15:23.000 I might kill you for talking in the movie theater. 1.00

00:15:26.000 So, I know. 0.99

00:15:27.000 You have no idea how I'm going to react.

00:15:29.000 You're really taking a big risk.

00:15:30.000 Man, I'm really hungry.

00:15:31.000 Let's get something to eat after this.

00:15:32.000 What?

00:15:33.000 What?

00:15:33.000 That's later!

00:15:35.000 To people that can't even wait an hour to eat, like, no, I have to be filled now!

00:15:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:15:40.000 I need to fill my holes!

00:15:43.000 Totally.

00:15:44.000 I get it.

00:15:44.000 You know, because your holes get lonely.

00:15:46.000 I need to fill my face hole with food immediately.

00:15:52.000 I can't survive!

00:15:54.000 Yeah, that's tough, man.

00:15:56.000 That's a tough racket because some people, I don't know, I mean, obviously there are people that have this weird thing that happens when, you know, that hangry thing or whatever, their bloodshed, so then they kind of get crazy.

00:16:07.000 However, I will say, for the most part, it's about discipline.

00:16:12.000 Yeah.

00:16:13.000 And the discipline turns into just nature and then you get a better sense of how...

00:16:18.000 If you are hungry, you're like, you know what?

00:16:20.000 I'm hungry and that's fine.

00:16:21.000 Yeah, you can be fine.

00:16:22.000 I'm going to be hungry.

00:16:23.000 I can live for a few days without food.

00:16:25.000 Days!

00:16:25.000 So a few hours or like four hours extra, I'm going to be fine.

00:16:30.000 Did you hear about the guy that lost, like, more than 100 pounds by fasting for an entire year?

00:16:36.000 He had doctors monitoring him.

00:16:38.000 It was all part of some sort of scientific experiment.

00:16:41.000 And we were talking about him with Rob Wolf, correct?

00:16:45.000 Is that who was telling us about it?

00:16:47.000 Or was it Dom D'Agostino?

00:16:48.000 Wasn't it like in the 60s or something?

00:16:50.000 No, no, no.

00:16:50.000 It was fairly recently.

00:16:51.000 Yeah, fairly recently.

00:16:52.000 Because the doctors were monitoring him.

00:16:54.000 He lost over a hundred pounds, and here's what's really crazy.

00:16:58.000 His skin shrunk with him.

00:17:02.000 Like his body corrected for itself.

00:17:05.000 Which is like, what?

00:17:07.000 Because he went into a complete state of ketosis, right?

00:17:10.000 Where his body's only fuel was from the actual extra fat in his body.

00:17:15.000 And then when his body started consuming this, I mean he could have like really bizarre genetics where his skin doesn't stretch out.

00:17:21.000 This is it, right?

00:17:22.000 450-pound man, fasted for a year, and he lost more than half his weight.

00:17:26.000 Yeah, I think that's it.

00:17:26.000 It happened in 1965. Oh, is that the same one?

00:17:29.000 I think so.

00:17:30.000 See if there's a recent one.

00:17:31.000 Whoa.

00:17:31.000 Because if Rob Lowe was talking about that, they had all these color photos of the guy that looked really recent.

00:17:35.000 Okay, I'll double check.

00:17:36.000 You might be right.

00:17:37.000 But I think it was a recent.

00:17:39.000 Maybe they recreated it.

00:17:41.000 Maybe that's what it was.

00:17:42.000 But this guy, whatever it was, all he did...

00:17:46.000 Oh, is this the same one?

00:17:47.000 Yeah, same thing.

00:17:48.000 Same one?

00:17:49.000 All he did was drink water, and his body just ate its fat.

00:17:53.000 I don't know if he took vitamins or what.

00:17:55.000 He had to take some fiber, because he needs stuff to go through his system. 0.99

00:17:58.000 Damn, I wish Rob Wolf was here. 0.97

00:17:59.000 I'm pretty sure he's the one who told us about it. 0.98

00:18:01.000 What I think was the most shocking was that his skin shrunk, too.

00:18:04.000 That's the weird thing.

00:18:06.000 I mean, with weight loss, I lost about 55 pounds. 0.99

00:18:11.000 Damn, how'd you do that? 0.98

00:18:12.000 I just started lifting. 0.99

00:18:15.000 I got a trainer and started lifting and then basically eating like a bodybuilder.

00:18:19.000 And that's how I eat for the most part.

00:18:22.000 Do you feel better that way?

00:18:23.000 Oh man, way better.

00:18:25.000 It's crazy.

00:18:26.000 Isn't it crazy?

00:18:27.000 People sometimes will look at the food that I'm bringing, which is always pretty much the same thing.

00:18:33.000 What are you eating?

00:18:34.000 Like, you know, like for breakfast, it's like this, what I call the, or what he calls the Yorgi shake, my trainer.

00:18:40.000 He has this shake that he digs, and it's like half kefir, half, or no, a cup of, yeah, a cup of oats, raw oats, half a cup of kefir, half a cup of water, and then 35 grams of J-Rob chocolate.

00:18:56.000 Egg white protein.

00:18:57.000 Oh, and a handful of frozen blueberries. 1.00

00:18:59.000 Damn. 0.99

00:19:00.000 So you've got a lot of good stuff going on there. 0.99

00:19:02.000 You've got antioxidants.

00:19:03.000 You've got probiotics from the kefir.

00:19:05.000 You've got some carbs from the oats.

00:19:07.000 You've got protein.

00:19:09.000 Yeah.

00:19:10.000 See, we just eat good.

00:19:11.000 It's so funny because it's such a...

00:19:12.000 The problem is... 1.00

00:19:13.000 There's a lot of fucking dummies that also eat good and they're annoying. 1.00

00:19:17.000 And then for regular people that like want to be healthy but they don't want to be that annoying guy at the gym that's fucking just droning on and on about his sets and his lifts and you start thinking that being healthy is for idiots. 1.00

00:19:28.000 Yes, right? 1.00

00:19:29.000 I know it gives it a bad rap.

00:19:30.000 It does give it a bad rap.

00:19:31.000 It's not that.

00:19:32.000 You know my favorite thing that I've been learning like lifting and sometimes I go to Gold's on Saturday like as a treat so like we go to Gold's in Venice And what I love about anything that I get involved with is just observing how the system works.

00:19:48.000 Right.

00:19:49.000 The community.

00:19:50.000 Yeah, the community.

00:19:51.000 What's the level of awareness?

00:19:52.000 What are they focused on?

00:19:53.000 Those types of things.

00:19:54.000 And the thing I really dig about lifting is that it's not what you think.

00:19:58.000 I think people think, ah, meatheads, roided up, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:20:03.000 And don't get me wrong, there are some of those for sure.

00:20:06.000 And it wouldn't be a real gym without a couple, but... 0.59

00:20:10.000 You go into gold, and man, people are so respectful to one another.

00:20:14.000 Yeah, very friendly.

00:20:15.000 Very friendly, very respectful.

00:20:16.000 They rack their weights.

00:20:19.000 They re-rack if you're working in.

00:20:22.000 They get things out of the way.

00:20:24.000 They think about stuff being in the way or not.

00:20:26.000 There's a lot of really cool, conscious, hey, let me help you.

00:20:30.000 Oh, you know that lift that you're doing right there that's putting too much stress on your shoulder?

00:20:34.000 You might want to pull in a little bit with your elbow or whatever.

00:20:37.000 Just a tip, you know, something like that.

00:20:38.000 Those guys are great.

00:20:39.000 The guys that are annoying are the guys that want to correct you when they're wrong.

00:20:41.000 Oh, man, no.

00:20:43.000 Don't ever do that exercise.

00:20:45.000 No, you can't do that.

00:20:47.000 Okay, why would I do that?

00:20:49.000 You just can't do that.

00:20:50.000 There's guys that just have this idea in their head that they need to absolutely tell you their knowledge.

00:20:57.000 It must come out.

00:21:00.000 It's weird.

00:21:01.000 And you can tell the difference.

00:21:02.000 Because if someone's giving you a small piece of corrective advice for an exercise that you're doing in the moment, or that you're doing, so it's not a critique of the exercise itself, It's more like, I'm looking at you doing this exercise, and here's a little piece that might make it more efficient.

00:21:18.000 Right.

00:21:19.000 You know, and better use of your movement or whatever.

00:21:22.000 That's great.

00:21:23.000 I get that.

00:21:24.000 And you can get that right away.

00:21:25.000 You're like, oh, that's dope.

00:21:26.000 I'll try that.

00:21:27.000 And if it works, it works.

00:21:27.000 If it doesn't, it doesn't.

00:21:29.000 But when someone's going off on these giant concepts, just things that are too large to give to someone that you don't know.

00:21:38.000 Right, and they just start firing it out at you.

00:21:40.000 Yeah.

00:21:40.000 With all these physiological words.

00:21:43.000 Yeah.

00:21:44.000 Things that they've read in magazines.

00:21:46.000 They're like, what?

00:21:47.000 I don't even know what you're saying.

00:21:48.000 I don't even know what that word is. 1.00

00:21:49.000 I'm nodding because I don't want to look stupid. 1.00

00:21:51.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:21:52.000 Yeah, totally.

00:21:53.000 Well, yeah, I mean, if we can.

00:21:54.000 Yeah, sure, man.

00:21:55.000 Yeah, thanks, man.

00:21:57.000 Thank you.

00:21:58.000 It's all about isolating my scapula.

00:22:00.000 It's super important.

00:22:01.000 But my supraspinatus and all these words are like, oh, what are we doing here?

00:22:05.000 Your duogenum. 0.99

00:22:06.000 I feel like you're jerking off on me or something. 1.00

00:22:09.000 Jerking off on me with your knowledge. 1.00

00:22:10.000 Knowledge jerking. 0.99

00:22:11.000 There is knowledge jerking, right?

00:22:13.000 For sure.

00:22:14.000 They definitely knowledge jerking on you.

00:22:15.000 Absolutely.

00:22:16.000 Yeah.

00:22:16.000 And it gets grouped in with mansplaining, which I think is like another form of, it's just a generalized, general human term.

00:22:23.000 Have you heard He-Pete?

00:22:24.000 It's a new one.

00:22:25.000 Oh, what's that?

00:22:26.000 He-Pete is when a woman says something and everybody ignores it, and the man says the exact same thing, and they go, oh, great idea. 0.99

00:22:32.000 That's fucked. 0.99

00:22:32.000 I know what that is, and that's fucked. 0.99

00:22:35.000 I do not like that. 0.99

00:22:37.000 There's nothing that pisses me off more.

00:22:39.000 It's like when someone's like, here, let me capitalize on an idea that was not really delivered at the right timing, you know, or whatever.

00:22:47.000 It's like, but I'm just going to claim responsibility.

00:22:49.000 Yeah, don't say, Debbie just had a great idea. 0.84

00:22:51.000 Yeah.

00:22:52.000 That's the difference between a good person and a cunty person. 1.00

00:22:55.000 Oh, man.

00:22:55.000 Debbie just had a good idea as the good person.

00:22:57.000 Hey, everybody, Debbie just had a great idea.

00:22:59.000 The bad guy's like, I got a great idea.

00:23:01.000 Yeah, totally. 1.00

00:23:01.000 And Debbie's like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:23:03.000 Debbie doesn't know what to do. 1.00

00:23:04.000 Debbie's like, this fucking job sucks. 1.00

00:23:07.000 Yeah, totally. 1.00

00:23:08.000 I knew this guy was an asshole. 1.00

00:23:09.000 Here's my proof. 1.00

00:23:10.000 That culture of like not like being in a corporate world and like one person is the boss and the other people have to kiss ass on the boss But then the boss has a boss the regional boss was coming by everybody tighten up.

00:23:21.000 Yep, and he's gonna put his good tie on The only time that system works is if the boss is a really Sure.

00:23:36.000 That's the only time, which is very, very rare.

00:23:38.000 Super rare.

00:23:39.000 Because they're playing against it.

00:23:40.000 Yeah.

00:23:41.000 That's what's happening.

00:23:42.000 Well, you have to exist while ignoring all the trappings of bosshood.

00:23:48.000 Yeah, right, right, right.

00:23:48.000 If you're just looking at, like...

00:23:50.000 Just from a rational, logistic, efficient-making mindset.

00:23:56.000 And what the value of efficiency also relates to the happiness of the workers and their well-being.

00:24:02.000 Not coddling too much, but providing just the right amount of things plus a little bit extra to give it the grease that it needs to feel good.

00:24:10.000 And also finding people to fill your team that are like-minded or willing to kind of think that way.

00:24:17.000 Yeah.

00:24:17.000 Where everybody kind of works together almost as a family.

00:24:19.000 Yes, exactly.

00:24:21.000 I'm sure those jobs exist.

00:24:22.000 I know I've talked to people that love their jobs.

00:24:24.000 I know there's people like that that are putting it together right.

00:24:26.000 I think that there are companies, and if not, there are moments when companies are like that.

00:24:30.000 Yeah.

00:24:31.000 You know, because everything changes, so it might not be sustainable.

00:24:33.000 If we keep going, I feel like people like to look at the worst aspects of any point in time, right?

00:24:40.000 Whether it's with climate change or a crazy presidential situation or race relations or whatever.

00:24:46.000 We always look at the worst aspects of it.

00:24:48.000 But I think, overall, it's pretty undeniable that this is the best time ever to be alive.

00:24:54.000 In terms of healthcare, in terms of the science behind keeping people alive, in terms of your ability to get information, in terms of our ability to communicate with each other, and bullshit to get through to us.

00:25:07.000 It's way less likely that bullshit gets through to people today than the propaganda they could spew just in the 1960s and get over on us. 0.88

00:25:14.000 That's the Gulf of Tonkin thing, the whole reason why we got into war. 0.93

00:25:18.000 So I just think that if we can keep it together and we can keep going, I think 40 years from now, 50 years from now, I think we're going to realize that that should be the norm.

00:25:28.000 And that the really healthy communities is going to be the norm.

00:25:30.000 And all these things, this is almost like aberrations that when we look back in time and think of people who were kings and they had people under them and they executed people at their own whim.

00:25:41.000 That only exists in a few places today.

00:25:44.000 It's like North Korea and maybe a couple other places.

00:25:48.000 I feel like in the future, we're all going to move towards it.

00:25:51.000 It's just hard to see while we're in it.

00:25:53.000 We're all moving towards a better way of living.

00:25:56.000 Yeah.

00:25:56.000 I mean, I think of it, you know, if I go back to that, like the reality awareness issue or the idea that, you know, there are multiverses and that every choice splits off and makes another choice, makes another choice.

00:26:12.000 So in essence, if...

00:26:15.000 In essence, if anything is possible, if the amount of realities and possibilities that exist are infinite, but we're perceiving one point as a consciousness experiment or whatever you want to call it, but as your point of reference,

00:26:31.000 as you move in every choice that you make, you can actually steer yourself to the reality that you want to live in.

00:26:37.000 I mean, I think that there's something great about seeing the trajectory of what you just described and moving towards that future.

00:26:46.000 But being proactive in the way that you can.

00:26:49.000 But I think...

00:26:51.000 Really, I think the thing that's really going to help all of that is energy.

00:26:55.000 Like, if we can figure out a way to distribute energy so that it's more equal amongst all human beings on the planet.

00:27:03.000 Right.

00:27:03.000 You mean energy in terms of power, actual power, electrical power, solar, wind power?

00:27:08.000 Yeah.

00:27:09.000 Yeah.

00:27:09.000 I would feel like there's a lot of places in the earth that would benefit from some super advanced form of solar.

00:27:15.000 Yeah, free energy.

00:27:16.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:27:18.000 Why even ever have power plants?

00:27:21.000 Why have any of that stuff?

00:27:22.000 We can all be independent, and we don't have to rely on a grid either this way.

00:27:26.000 No, no, no.

00:27:27.000 Distributed power is the best power, especially if it is connected, because then it can manage itself.

00:27:33.000 I mean, even with artificial intelligence and things like that, or just really good programming, it just optimizes constantly in real time based on a sensor array.

00:27:43.000 Well, you know, they use really good backcountry solar panels to charge batteries for cameras and batteries for phones.

00:27:50.000 That's right.

00:27:51.000 My friend Adam was in Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming.

00:27:57.000 He went on this epic backcountry hunt, and one of the things that he did is he brought this solar thing to charge his phone every day, and he would do Insta stories from the top of the mountain.

00:28:06.000 Amazing, amazing stuff, but...

00:28:08.000 You couldn't do that just a few years ago.

00:28:11.000 I mean, there wasn't the kind of solar power that you could pack up in a little thing and stuff into your backpack.

00:28:15.000 I mean, it's crazy.

00:28:16.000 I know.

00:28:17.000 Yeah, I was checking out.

00:28:18.000 There's a company out of Australia that makes these solar generators, and they're like 17 grand or something like that, or maybe even...

00:28:24.000 Oh, no, they might even be more, like 30 grand or something.

00:28:26.000 Anyways, it's this fairly lightweight system.

00:28:29.000 It's like a mast system that has a base and a solar array, and it tracks the sun.

00:28:37.000 So it moves automatically with the sun and it also has some other pre-programmed weather data that's also integrated into it, either real-time or stored.

00:28:46.000 But it's able to produce a pretty decent amount of electricity.

00:28:51.000 I don't remember the numbers, but it was definitely way more than a trickle charge.

00:28:55.000 You could run a refrigeration system on it, like a small refrigeration system.

00:29:01.000 So you could keep food from perishing and maybe even get some air conditioning going or something.

00:29:06.000 Yeah, with a storage battery. 0.99

00:29:08.000 I think 20 years from now, who knows how crazy this shit is going to be. 0.99

00:29:11.000 Well, I mean, you know, I just got done seeing that documentary. 0.99

00:29:16.000 I don't know.

00:29:17.000 I don't remember the name of it, but it's a kind of conspiracy UFO documentary.

00:29:22.000 Which one?

00:29:23.000 Is it a fairly recent one?

00:29:24.000 Yeah, it's fairly recent.

00:29:25.000 Is it Dr. Stephen Greer, that guy?

00:29:27.000 Not sure.

00:29:29.000 It's on iTunes.

00:29:30.000 It's featured on iTunes.

00:29:31.000 Do you remember the name of it?

00:29:33.000 I can find it.

00:29:34.000 Like the unknown or something?

00:29:37.000 Yeah, that seems right.

00:29:41.000 Unacknowledged?

00:29:42.000 Yeah, unacknowledged.

00:29:43.000 Did you like it?

00:29:44.000 There's Art Belly.

00:29:45.000 It was kind of Art Belly, actually.

00:29:48.000 Art Belly.

00:29:48.000 Those are tough shows for me to watch because it makes sense...

00:29:54.000 Like, some of the stuff that they're talking about?

00:29:56.000 That makes sense.

00:29:57.000 But my theory is that the level of organization that they're talking about doesn't really exist.

00:30:05.000 Like, it's not that tight.

00:30:07.000 I think it's kind of messy.

00:30:09.000 I think it's the same thing, like, just look at kids on a playground and see how they organize themselves socially.

00:30:16.000 And then just expand that with a little bit more complexity, and you have this idea of the structure of secrecy and ancient cults that have now risen to Rosicrucians and Masons and the Illuminati and those types of things.

00:30:38.000 I think that they can exist.

00:30:41.000 Like, that sort of thing does exist, but it doesn't exist in the tight, efficient, controlled version.

00:30:49.000 I think it's messier than that.

00:30:52.000 I think it's people trying to influence other people using a bunch of tactics.

00:30:58.000 But I think that you can't have control.

00:31:00.000 You can't have that much control, as much control as they're talking about.

00:31:05.000 Well, the only way that would work is if the government was different than people.

00:31:09.000 Right, if it wasn't made of people?

00:31:12.000 If the government wasn't people, if they were so smart that they weren't people, then that could be possible.

00:31:19.000 But obviously, that's not the case. 0.99

00:31:22.000 Donald Trump is the fucking president, so we have proof that the government is filled with people. 1.00

00:31:26.000 That guy's a person. 1.00

00:31:27.000 You know, for sure.

00:31:29.000 He's so person.

00:31:29.000 Right?

00:31:30.000 So, no person has ever been able to pull off that level of conspiracy for any length of time.

00:31:36.000 And the idea that you could hide, somehow, communication with aliens.

00:31:41.000 Yes.

00:31:41.000 And that the aliens would choose the government of all people.

00:31:44.000 Why would the aliens give a fuck who we picked in our popularity contest? 0.99

00:31:48.000 Oh, that's the representative that gets to speak to Zeta Reticuli? 0.99

00:31:51.000 Yes. 1.00

00:31:51.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00

00:31:53.000 They talk to whoever they want. 0.99

00:31:55.000 It's like, do we go and check when we visit a bee colony?

00:31:57.000 Excuse me, may I speak to the queen? 0.99

00:31:59.000 And we stick our fucking hived up hands in there. 1.00

00:32:02.000 With careful secret contact. 0.99

00:32:03.000 We just suck some bees out with a vacuum and take them to a lab to test them. 0.77

00:32:08.000 Hey guys, listen, I need you to go back to the queen and ask.

00:32:11.000 We need to go to the king. 0.99

00:32:12.000 Can you imagine some fucking dude sitting in the White House, you know, at the Oval Office and the alien walks in. 0.99

00:32:18.000 I am the representative of... 0.99

00:32:19.000 I mean, this is like a 1940s movie, right?

00:32:22.000 It just doesn't make any sense.

00:32:25.000 I believe in so many things, infinitely, that things can exist and things are possible.

00:32:33.000 However, there are things that are just like, it just makes sense.

00:32:36.000 You know it intuitively.

00:32:37.000 You can feel a connection to it where you're like, you know what?

00:32:40.000 I'll leave a 10% margin of possibility.

00:32:42.000 You know, something like that.

00:32:44.000 But there are ideas where I'm like, I can't.

00:32:47.000 I just can't.

00:32:48.000 It could be real, but I've seen nothing that compels me to believe that it is.

00:32:52.000 But it could be real.

00:32:53.000 I'm definitely not saying there are no aliens, or the government hasn't been contacted by aliens, or the aliens haven't visited Earth.

00:32:59.000 Sure, sure.

00:33:00.000 Why not?

00:33:01.000 We would do it.

00:33:02.000 I mean, I don't think it's impossible, but again, I think it's not to the extent at which, when you compress all the data and you formulate a story about it.

00:33:13.000 Highly unlikely.

00:33:14.000 Yeah, it's like, well, I don't know.

00:33:16.000 It seems you kind of have to do that.

00:33:19.000 Like, you can't talk about that stuff broadly.

00:33:21.000 It also seems super likely to me that in the future we won't send biological entities into these places that have all these limitations as far as, like, what we can survive.

00:33:31.000 We'll send some sort of an artificial intelligence.

00:33:33.000 Maybe that's what those things are.

00:33:35.000 Those gray things with the big black eyes.

00:33:37.000 Maybe those are robots.

00:33:39.000 Oh man, but then the question is, my theory is that the whole propulsion or compulsion to constantly be making technology is based on our desire to make or build ourselves outside of ourselves.

00:33:55.000 So without the normal biological means, it's like we're fascinated at simulating ourselves outside of ourselves.

00:34:03.000 And so, in essence, we could just be that already.

00:34:08.000 And so it's like we're just like on this constant carrot-chasing propulsion system.

00:34:16.000 Yeah, there's a lot of people that when they look at the image of the alien, they look at that image and they say that it's entirely preposterous that someone would achieve or something would achieve a humanoid-like shape with all the massive amounts of different shapes that we have on Earth.

00:34:33.000 Yes, right.

00:34:34.000 Just to be mobile, that's not the only way to be mobile.

00:34:36.000 No.

00:34:37.000 We know how ours came to be, that we used to be crawling and then we started standing upright.

00:34:42.000 That's why we have all these issues with our spine.

00:34:44.000 Yeah.

00:34:44.000 Our spine wasn't entirely designed to support upper body weight.

00:34:48.000 That's right.

00:34:48.000 Yeah.

00:34:49.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:34:49.000 Yeah, and the other thing is, it's one of my pet peeves, and I'm just putting this in the spectrum of science fiction.

00:34:58.000 Every celestial body, every planet, every moon, they all have different gravities.

00:35:03.000 So there's going to be different types of creatures.

00:35:06.000 Not only that, but when they come to our planet, they're going to need a really strong exoskeleton suit.

00:35:11.000 Or they're going to be so incredibly strong that it wouldn't matter.

00:35:16.000 Atmospheric gases, like how they produce energy.

00:35:20.000 There's such a vast complexity that life is the way that it is now because of all the elements that were present at the times that they were present in our reality.

00:35:32.000 And so, and even if you take it on a software level, like something like, what was that game Spore, where it was built on a generative idea.

00:35:41.000 You can create entire universes.

00:35:44.000 Yeah, and they would kind of create on their own, based on your light touches.

00:35:48.000 And it would be infinite.

00:35:49.000 Jamie, didn't you say that got boring, though, because there's really nothing happening in these infinite universes?

00:35:54.000 That was a newer game.

00:35:55.000 Oh, that's No Man's Sky?

00:35:58.000 Yep, yep, yep.

00:35:58.000 No Man's Sky.

00:35:59.000 So a similar idea?

00:36:00.000 Yeah.

00:36:02.000 Yeah, that's...

00:36:02.000 You have to really...

00:36:03.000 You know, the problem with those things is...

00:36:05.000 I know we're jumping around a lot, but it just...

00:36:09.000 That's the whole show.

00:36:10.000 Oh, that is the show?

00:36:10.000 Okay, good.

00:36:11.000 Yeah, we jump around, man.

00:36:11.000 You're like, okay, so when should we start?

00:36:13.000 We talk about whatever.

00:36:14.000 Yeah, totally.

00:36:15.000 Good.

00:36:15.000 I like it.

00:36:16.000 There ain't no rules.

00:36:17.000 I'll show you sports, yeah.

00:36:18.000 Um, so when you, oh, so this is, what is this?

00:36:22.000 These are creatures.

00:36:23.000 This came out like probably 10, 15 years ago.

00:36:24.000 Whoa, this is dope.

00:36:25.000 It starts super small as little one-celled organisms and works all the way up to an organism getting on land and then you're really running a whole planet. 0.99

00:36:33.000 So when these things are happening, do these little fuckers evolve? 1.00

00:36:37.000 Yep. 1.00

00:36:37.000 What? 1.00

00:36:38.000 Yeah, they evolve.

00:36:40.000 Oh, you can design them?

00:36:41.000 That's hilarious.

00:36:42.000 And what are your tasks?

00:36:43.000 Oh, you have to fight ants here.

00:36:44.000 Eat, survive, whatever earth. 1.00

00:36:47.000 You can get lost in these fucking things, man. 0.99

00:36:49.000 Then you can, yeah, see, and now there's like tribal culture with hierarchical leadership. 1.00

00:36:54.000 Now, are these other things you're interacting with artificial or are they other humans?

00:36:58.000 This game is all, yeah, this was kind of pre-multiplayer online stuff.

00:37:02.000 Wow.

00:37:03.000 Yeah, so basically you evolve all the way to spacefaring.

00:37:06.000 Dude, they're so cool looking.

00:37:08.000 They beat the fuck out of each other with sticks, though. 1.00

00:37:10.000 They've got to get past that shit, man. 1.00

00:37:11.000 See, that's the thing. 1.00

00:37:15.000 That's why I call human beings, the human race, a simulation species.

00:37:19.000 It's like everything that we do, we generate our ideas.

00:37:23.000 They're all based on our observation of the world around us and then utilizing that in some way for ourselves.

00:37:30.000 And so, like, you know, design of things, why we color things the way they are, certain chemicals, or why things are, you know, look the way they look, or they're shaped the way they're shaped, all of that.

00:37:41.000 So when I see a game about simulation, of course, we're going to make a game about simulations.

00:37:49.000 Arguably, like, children playing with dolls and figures and stuff like that's another form of simulation.

00:37:55.000 But the idea of, like, having the awareness of another reality and...

00:37:59.000 Projecting the idea that you want with bigger, I guess, more control.

00:38:07.000 Having control over a representation of your idea of a desired reality is crazy.

00:38:13.000 I mean, that's like simulation within simulation within simulation.

00:38:17.000 It's totally, to me, a nice piece of evidence for that.

00:38:21.000 Yeah, I think we're going to get better at it, and it's going to get indiscernible.

00:38:24.000 You're going to be able to put some headphones on, and they're going to plug some stuff, maybe put some of those greasy pads with the wires.

00:38:32.000 Yeah, some wetware.

00:38:34.000 Yeah, they're going to put that stuff connected to your head in all these various places.

00:38:38.000 They're going to hook you up with this machine, and you're going to go somewhere that's so much cooler than reality. 1.00

00:38:42.000 You're going to be like, fuck reality, man. 1.00

00:38:44.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:38:45.000 You're going to go and do your stupid job at Home Depot, and you're like... 1.00

00:38:49.000 Fuck this job! 1.00

00:38:50.000 And you're gonna come home, and you're gonna put that thing on, and you're gonna realize, I have to figure out a way to stay in here. 1.00

00:38:55.000 I have to stay in this world.

00:38:57.000 Yeah.

00:38:57.000 Like Surrogate?

00:38:58.000 Yeah.

00:38:59.000 It's Tron world.

00:39:00.000 What's Surrogate?

00:39:01.000 Surrogate, the movie...

00:39:02.000 Bruce Willis?

00:39:04.000 Oh yeah, that's right.

00:39:05.000 I remember that movie.

00:39:06.000 Remember that? 1.00

00:39:07.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:39:07.000 It's all about telepresence. 0.99

00:39:08.000 Some people were just in pods.

00:39:11.000 But they had a robot body of them when they were younger.

00:39:14.000 That's right! 0.99

00:39:15.000 And there were people jumping off of buildings and shit because there were no consequences. 0.97

00:39:21.000 Is that what they looked like underneath? 0.98

00:39:24.000 Look at that.

00:39:25.000 Yeah.

00:39:25.000 Whoa, freaky.

00:39:27.000 She's hot, though. 1.00

00:39:28.000 Surrogate.

00:39:29.000 Bruce Willis.

00:39:30.000 Yeah, Bruce Willis was younger.

00:39:32.000 That was like one of the first uses of CGI, too, to make someone younger in a movie.

00:39:35.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.

00:39:37.000 Look how beautiful his skin looked.

00:39:39.000 Yeah, very smooth.

00:39:41.000 Yeah.

00:39:41.000 Super smooth.

00:39:42.000 They just did that recently with Guardians of the Galaxy 2. With who?

00:39:48.000 Kurt Russell.

00:39:49.000 Kurt Russell is the bad guy.

00:39:51.000 You know the one time that I noticed the most was Tron.

00:39:55.000 The Neutron.

00:39:56.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:39:57.000 That's where they like, I remember that being like, espoused as like, this breakthrough.

00:40:01.000 I mean, it's Benjamin Button. 0.99

00:40:03.000 It looked faked as fuck. 1.00

00:40:04.000 It looked fake as fuck. 1.00

00:40:05.000 I mean, it wasn't a simulation, but even the fact that it wasn't a simulation, a video game, still looked fake within the video game. 0.99

00:40:13.000 Kurt Russell, though, looked amazing.

00:40:15.000 Look at that dimple.

00:40:16.000 Dude, he looked perfect.

00:40:17.000 I mean, he looked really good.

00:40:19.000 Oh, he looks...

00:40:20.000 Yeah.

00:40:20.000 No, that looks...

00:40:21.000 He looks like a 35-year-old Kurt Russell.

00:40:23.000 Yeah, that looks wonderful.

00:40:24.000 That looks great.

00:40:25.000 Dude, he's really good.

00:40:26.000 And the movies...

00:40:27.000 Natural. 1.00

00:40:27.000 Fun as shit, too, man. 1.00

00:40:28.000 Oh, it's like... 0.99

00:40:29.000 You talking about two?

00:40:30.000 Yeah.

00:40:31.000 I... You know, the one thing that really pissed me off was that...

00:40:34.000 Baby Groot.

00:40:35.000 I hate when they put baby characters.

00:40:38.000 I can't stand it.

00:40:40.000 It's so obvious.

00:40:41.000 It's such an obvious play.

00:40:42.000 It's just like...

00:40:44.000 It is obvious.

00:40:46.000 Even Mork and Mindy when they added Jonathan Winters.

00:40:50.000 Don't be afraid of obvious things that are awesome. 0.99

00:40:53.000 Like big tits. 1.00

00:40:54.000 They worked once. 1.00

00:40:55.000 Okay.

00:40:56.000 That's a totally different thing, man.

00:40:58.000 That's a totally different thing.

00:41:00.000 But obvious things that are awesome.

00:41:02.000 There's another, I know that little baby Groot was cute.

00:41:05.000 I love him.

00:41:06.000 I could not stand that opening sequence with like the, he's like being casual and he's taking out all the bad guys.

00:41:11.000 I'm like, that's so gross.

00:41:13.000 I don't like it.

00:41:13.000 Oh, when he was singing?

00:41:14.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:15.000 Yeah, like, it's the opening sequence.

00:41:18.000 Yeah.

00:41:19.000 I loved it.

00:41:21.000 Man, I couldn't, I didn't, I didn't know.

00:41:22.000 You know what, though, dude? 0.90

00:41:23.000 I'm a dork for comic books, man. 0.93

00:41:25.000 I've always been a dork for comic books and comic book movies. 0.96

00:41:31.000 I'll make fun of people for liking pro wrestling. 0.67

00:41:33.000 Like, Hook, you know what's happening.

00:41:34.000 You know it's fake.

00:41:36.000 You know it's fake.

00:41:37.000 And they're like, I know it's fake.

00:41:38.000 That's not the point.

00:41:39.000 Because Game of Thrones is fake, too.

00:41:41.000 And we'll go back and forth.

00:41:42.000 Meanwhile... 0.98

00:41:43.000 I'll get fucking thrilled when Bruce Banner turns into the Hulk. 1.00

00:41:47.000 Oh, I love that shit. 1.00

00:41:48.000 Yeah, I get amped up. 1.00

00:41:49.000 Oh, I love that.

00:41:50.000 That I have no problem with.

00:41:52.000 That's so corny, though.

00:41:54.000 No, that's not corny.

00:41:56.000 You shouldn't make me angry.

00:41:57.000 You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. 1.00

00:41:58.000 I love that shit. 1.00

00:41:59.000 I always do that. 1.00

00:42:01.000 Have you ever heard that...

00:42:02.000 Oh, man.

00:42:03.000 Could you imagine?

00:42:04.000 What's his name?

00:42:04.000 A British comedian.

00:42:07.000 Really brilliant kind of alt guy.

00:42:11.000 Did Jerry Springer the musical.

00:42:14.000 And it didn't take off.

00:42:16.000 And there are all these Christians protesting it. 0.99

00:42:18.000 They're protesting his musical?

00:42:20.000 Yeah.

00:42:20.000 It was crazy.

00:42:21.000 It was really big.

00:42:23.000 And it didn't happen or something like that.

00:42:25.000 The theater decided not to do it.

00:42:27.000 Or something like that.

00:42:28.000 Oh, that's fine.

00:42:29.000 Rich...

00:42:31.000 God, that's so crazy.

00:42:33.000 What is it?

00:42:34.000 Richard Thomas?

00:42:35.000 No.

00:42:36.000 No.

00:42:36.000 No?

00:42:37.000 No, Richard Thomas.

00:42:39.000 He's got a program right now.

00:42:41.000 He's on TV and the BBC. But anyways, he's this brilliant...

00:42:46.000 He has a joke about Ang Lee.

00:42:49.000 The guy who did the Hulk?

00:42:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:42:53.000 And his whole thing is just insane.

00:42:56.000 It's a long joke.

00:42:58.000 It takes like seven minutes.

00:43:01.000 The setup is just him talking about how he worked with Ang Lee.

00:43:08.000 And at the end of this interview, he said, Ang Lee, you wouldn't like me when I'm Ang Lee.

00:43:18.000 Something like that.

00:43:19.000 And Ang Lee not getting it.

00:43:20.000 And then him explaining the whole lead-up back to that again.

00:43:24.000 And then Ang Lee not getting it and then explaining it again.

00:43:28.000 And it just goes...

00:43:29.000 I think I'm remembering it right.

00:43:31.000 But it's just brilliant.

00:43:33.000 And it's such an abstract, weird slice of a way to get to a punchline.

00:43:39.000 And it's just...

00:43:40.000 It's perfect.

00:43:41.000 A Hulk punchline.

00:43:42.000 It's a Hulk.

00:43:43.000 Of arguably the worst Hulk movie of all of them.

00:43:45.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:43:46.000 The Eric Bana one.

00:43:47.000 I loved him in Chopper, but I didn't love him as Bruce Banner.

00:43:51.000 Yeah, even though his last name was Banna, and I thought that's pretty close to Banner, I didn't do it.

00:43:56.000 You know what? 0.98

00:43:56.000 What fucked me on that movie? 0.98

00:43:58.000 I went to see it high. 0.99

00:43:59.000 And when you go to see high movies, bad movies just are offensive when you're high.

00:44:04.000 You're like, what?

00:44:04.000 What are you making me believe?

00:44:06.000 What?

00:44:06.000 I know.

00:44:07.000 What is this?

00:44:07.000 I'm aware of the illusion you're casting, wizard.

00:44:10.000 Yeah, that's a problem.

00:44:12.000 Maybe they had Hulk dogs in that one. 1.00

00:44:14.000 Yeah, I did in the Cerebus.

00:44:16.000 It was like the three or two-headed dogs.

00:44:18.000 Was that two-headed?

00:44:19.000 I remember it was a Hulk dog.

00:44:21.000 I don't know if it had more than one head.

00:44:23.000 I think it had more than one head.

00:44:24.000 I think.

00:44:25.000 Because it was...

00:44:26.000 Nick Nolte's dogs, he was the dad, remember?

00:44:29.000 He was the scientist dad?

00:44:30.000 Yeah, that's right, yeah.

00:44:31.000 He turned into a jellyfish.

00:44:32.000 Is that the one where he turned into a jellyfish at the end?

00:44:34.000 Did he?

00:44:34.000 He had jellyfish DNA. Oh, there's the Hulk dogs.

00:44:36.000 Look at them.

00:44:37.000 Oh, yeah, no, they weren't.

00:44:38.000 Hulked out poodle and a Hulked out pit bull. 1.00

00:44:41.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:44:42.000 What a weird... 1.00

00:44:42.000 Look at them. 1.00

00:44:43.000 That's amazing.

00:44:44.000 What a strange...

00:44:46.000 Like, these are the creatures they're gonna be facing.

00:44:49.000 Yeah, Hulked out poodle.

00:44:50.000 I mean...

00:44:51.000 Yeah.

00:44:53.000 That's...

00:44:54.000 Yeah, remember that happened?

00:44:55.000 It essentially turned into the Hulk versus a Hulk dog.

00:44:59.000 So when the dogs would get fired up, the same thing would happen to them as happened to the Hulk.

00:45:02.000 That's right.

00:45:03.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:45:04.000 Hulk dogs.

00:45:05.000 And didn't he get bigger?

00:45:06.000 Look at that thing biting him on the back. 1.00

00:45:07.000 And didn't he get bigger depending upon how much fucked up shit was happening in his life? 0.99

00:45:13.000 Like if they shot him with bullets, he kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger? 1.00

00:45:17.000 Yeah, maybe that.

00:45:17.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.

00:45:19.000 I remember that.

00:45:19.000 Yeah, because he just keeps absorbing the energy.

00:45:22.000 Yeah, and getting matter, too.

00:45:24.000 And he's got matter.

00:45:25.000 He just kept getting bigger.

00:45:26.000 That's right. 0.95

00:45:27.000 Could you fucking imagine, like, of all the superpowers, that's the one that I think so appeals to kids like me when I was young, when I was little and worried about the world and nervous and, you know, you get picked on. 0.89

00:45:41.000 You're like, how cool would it be? 0.93

00:45:43.000 To just be able to just get angry and all of a sudden become this bulletproof thing that can leap through the air.

00:45:51.000 Yeah, I know.

00:45:52.000 It's like freedom.

00:45:54.000 Like, max freedom.

00:45:55.000 But it was so corny, like the words that he would say, that they...

00:45:59.000 You could only read it.

00:46:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:01.000 As a comic book, when you're reading a comic book, that's different than when you hear people speaking.

00:46:06.000 Yeah, like, even in the Avengers, when he takes, what is it, Loki?

00:46:10.000 Yeah, Loki. 0.95

00:46:12.000 Loki, and he beats the fuck out of him, and he's like, puny human. 0.97

00:46:16.000 Oh, yeah. 0.97

00:46:16.000 You know, it's just, no, man. 0.97

00:46:18.000 No, no.

00:46:19.000 But if you saw a 1970s Hulk...

00:46:22.000 Lou Ferrigno? 0.70

00:46:23.000 I mean comic, like comic from the 70s, and just like, he's beating the fuck out of Loki, and Loki's kind of like, ugh, kind of fucked up, and Hulk is just motionless, and then it said that.

00:46:34.000 He'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. 0.66

00:46:36.000 He would say that.

00:46:37.000 He would definitely say that, and that's cool.

00:46:39.000 Yeah, there's a lot of things you could only read people saying.

00:46:42.000 Yeah, totally.

00:46:44.000 Totally.

00:46:45.000 You're just like, Anticap.

00:46:46.000 I mean, no one says, titch.

00:46:49.000 Yeah.

00:46:50.000 Like, Anticap.

00:46:51.000 Wow, that's a blast from the past.

00:46:53.000 Titch.

00:46:53.000 Is there any more popular cartoons?

00:46:56.000 Are there any more Dilberts out there in the world? 1.00

00:46:59.000 Do you mean, like, hand-drawn?

00:47:00.000 Yeah.

00:47:00.000 Comic strips?

00:47:01.000 Are there ones that people, like, look forward to every day?

00:47:04.000 There must be.

00:47:04.000 You're about to hear something from Twitter.

00:47:07.000 I'm sure.

00:47:07.000 Get ready.

00:47:08.000 I mean, You'd have to read the newspaper probably, right? 0.99

00:47:11.000 Right, but who the fuck reads newspapers anymore? 0.99

00:47:13.000 I don't know, man. 0.97

00:47:14.000 Yeah, and online publications, unless it's The New Yorker, usually don't do comic strips.

00:47:21.000 Right.

00:47:22.000 It's just the articles.

00:47:23.000 And if they do, it's probably like a one-off by an artist rather than a series like Andy Kapp or Dilbert.

00:47:29.000 You know what I mean?

00:47:30.000 Yeah.

00:47:30.000 Yeah, totally.

00:47:31.000 It's maybe a one-off with Obama and Trump standing next to each other talking or something like that.

00:47:36.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:47:36.000 It's just a picture.

00:47:37.000 It's like Playboy style.

00:47:38.000 One picture, a punchline, a joke underneath.

00:47:41.000 Yeah, I remember those Playboy ones.

00:47:43.000 We were like, whoa, this is crazy.

00:47:45.000 I was a little kid. 0.99

00:47:46.000 I'd get a hold of them and be like, what in the fuck am I reading? 0.98

00:47:48.000 I know. 1.00

00:47:49.000 There's a girl with her tits popping out and the guy's trying to grab her. 1.00

00:47:52.000 Like, what? 1.00

00:47:53.000 And it's humor.

00:47:54.000 It's like adult humor.

00:47:56.000 It's adult humor, but today it's totally rape culture. 0.99

00:47:58.000 There's a lot of shit that was in Playboy magazine and those ads that if you saw, or those cartoons rather, that you saw today, you'd be like, you can't print this. 1.00

00:48:07.000 There's no fucking way. 1.00

00:48:09.000 There's no way. 0.99

00:48:11.000 I mean, is it as bad?

00:48:13.000 No, it is.

00:48:14.000 I was just going to say, is it as bad as Mickey Rooney and Breakfast at Tiffany's?

00:48:18.000 I don't remember that movie.

00:48:20.000 Yeah, I mean, watch it, but as soon as Mickey Rooney's character comes on...

00:48:25.000 I might not have ever seen that, which doesn't make sense to me.

00:48:27.000 Really?

00:48:28.000 No, it makes sense.

00:48:29.000 Breakfast at Tiffany's is like one of those movies you hear about all the time, but you may not ever see it.

00:48:37.000 Yeah, that might be the case.

00:48:39.000 Yeah.

00:48:39.000 I might not have ever seen it.

00:48:40.000 I remember trying to see it, and I couldn't finish it because of Mickey Rooney.

00:48:47.000 Oh, he's just a douche in it?

00:48:49.000 He plays a Chinese man.

00:48:51.000 Oh, God.

00:48:53.000 That's right!

00:48:54.000 Oh, no, Japanese. 1.00

00:48:54.000 Is he Japanese? 1.00

00:48:55.000 He's Japanese.

00:48:56.000 Yeah, that's Japanese.

00:48:56.000 Or is he wearing a Japanese thing saying he's Chinese?

00:48:58.000 It says, Mr. Yunyoshi.

00:49:01.000 Oh, okay.

00:49:01.000 Definitely Japanese, yeah.

00:49:03.000 Okay, so at least I thought it was going to get really terrible with, like, mixing Asian cultures. 1.00

00:49:10.000 But apparently...

00:49:11.000 You remember when Katy Perry had to apologize for wearing a kimono?

00:49:14.000 Because people felt like it was offensive to Japanese people that she was culturally appropriating. 0.95

00:49:19.000 She, like, had this big sit-down with...

00:49:22.000 But what about Bjork?

00:49:24.000 I don't know about her.

00:49:25.000 Bjerken, the one of her album covers.

00:49:27.000 Oh, that's right.

00:49:28.000 But that was a different time when it was acceptable.

00:49:30.000 Oh, you're right.

00:49:30.000 You're right.

00:49:31.000 Today it's no longer...

00:49:32.000 It's grandmother day.

00:49:33.000 Yeah.

00:49:34.000 So she had apologized. 1.00

00:49:37.000 And when she was apologizing, Remember, she made this video that will make your fucking brain hurt. 0.99

00:49:44.000 She's sitting there with Doreen Mackeson from Black Lives Matter, and they're sitting on a couch, cross-legged, with their shoes off, which, by the way, nobody knows. 0.99

00:49:54.000 You sit down like that with me, I'm like, hey, what are we doing here?

00:49:58.000 Yeah, that's...

00:49:59.000 Trying to be comfortable?

00:50:00.000 Well, this is definitely a terrible setup.

00:50:02.000 How about we just give us a comfy chair? 1.00

00:50:03.000 Sit here and talk to each other like fucking humans. 0.99

00:50:05.000 It would be different if they were on kind of organic-looking furniture and they were dressed more as human people. 1.00

00:50:13.000 And I don't know.

00:50:14.000 You know what I mean?

00:50:15.000 Well, she was addressing her hair.

00:50:17.000 This was the thing.

00:50:17.000 She had to dress her hair because she did something where she had braids.

00:50:21.000 And people are getting mad at her because she culturally appropriated and then she also addressed her idea of dressing up like a geisha. 0.74

00:50:28.000 So the problem is, when they went over and talked to people, geishas are from... 1.00

00:50:34.000 Where are geishas from? 1.00

00:50:38.000 Why do I want to say China?

00:50:40.000 No, it's Japan.

00:50:41.000 Yeah, it is Japan, right?

00:50:43.000 Yeah, it's like the thing that people just don't understand.

00:50:46.000 So they went over there.

00:50:47.000 Yeah, there's the braids.

00:50:48.000 She had to apologize for braids. 0.93

00:50:49.000 Who's that?

00:50:49.000 It's her.

00:50:50.000 It's Katy Perry. 1.00

00:50:51.000 Damn. 1.00

00:50:51.000 What? 1.00

00:50:52.000 She look good there.

00:50:53.000 She look good.

00:50:54.000 She look good there.

00:50:55.000 So they went over to Japan to talk to these folks and they universally were saying when they interviewed people in the street that they're happy that someone is expressing Japanese culture and that they're aware of Japanese culture and they thought it was a very good thing.

00:51:07.000 They didn't think it was bad at all. 0.98

00:51:08.000 They don't have the same feelings about cultural appropriation as some people do with fucking braids. 0.99

00:51:14.000 Yeah, yeah, I get it. 0.99

00:51:16.000 But it's the United States.

00:51:17.000 Right.

00:51:18.000 We're sensitive.

00:51:19.000 We're super sensitive.

00:51:20.000 We've gotten very sensitive.

00:51:20.000 You know what it is?

00:51:21.000 It all comes from the litigious culture. 1.00

00:51:25.000 Do you think so?

00:51:25.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:51:27.000 The fact that you can get sued for anything, anybody can sue you at any time, that's just like, that's American culture.

00:51:32.000 That's what you do.

00:51:33.000 It's like, you know what?

00:51:33.000 You pissed off someone?

00:51:35.000 Like, enough?

00:51:36.000 You can sue them.

00:51:38.000 And so there's a lot of like suing, suing, suing, enough successful cases along the way.

00:51:42.000 That's part of, it's like a fear-based operating system.

00:51:46.000 Right. 1.00

00:51:46.000 Calling people on shit. 1.00

00:51:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:51:49.000 Maybe they didn't even think was bad.

00:51:51.000 Yeah.

00:51:51.000 It's like a combination of like someone like, it's a good service to be able to sue someone if you needed to.

00:51:56.000 However, it's abused up the yin-yang and there's like professional lawyers that have billboards everywhere.

00:52:01.000 But do you think Katy Perry was worried about being sued?

00:52:03.000 No, I'm saying that the sensitivity issue, like why American culture is so PC at this point, because it kind of goes hand in hand.

00:52:15.000 It's like a sense of...

00:52:18.000 I don't know.

00:52:18.000 I'm at a loss of words.

00:52:20.000 I'm a little bit too stoned.

00:52:20.000 But I will say, having that litigious, fear-based kind of motivator, it causes people to want to correct things.

00:52:30.000 To course correct to a form of something that works for everyone.

00:52:34.000 To avoid being sued.

00:52:36.000 I mean, not directly.

00:52:39.000 Right, right.

00:52:39.000 Not directly.

00:52:40.000 But that thought process?

00:52:41.000 Yeah, that mindset.

00:52:42.000 Yeah, that mindset, I think.

00:52:44.000 Because it's about like, okay, well, how can we make this?

00:52:47.000 We have to include everybody on this, which I believe in, but absolutely.

00:52:52.000 But I think it should be done out of a sense of...

00:52:55.000 Empathy.

00:52:56.000 And not to say that people fighting for rights to have handicapped parking in the front of a building, that's just a great idea. 1.00

00:53:06.000 But I'm just saying that what you were kind of referring to, that sensitivity comes from that, where someone's afraid of doing something wrong.

00:53:14.000 And it just starts feeding back and feeding back and feeding back.

00:53:17.000 And then you get people so fearful of any choice that they're making.

00:53:21.000 Because I feel it, you know, every time I walk into a grocery store, I'm like, this entire store could be reduced to 5% the volume that it is right now, and the amount of people in that store would have all the products they need.

00:53:35.000 Yeah.

00:53:36.000 So, the inundation of choice, choice, choice, choice, choice, and fear of doing something wrong, whether it's because I want it to look perfect, or I want to look perfect, or whatever it is.

00:53:50.000 Mix that all together and it's a recipe for...

00:53:53.000 It's a problem for sure.

00:53:54.000 I think another factor though is that people get to complain and that people don't like when people are mad at them So when you have a giant group of people that can communicate instantaneously with with anybody at any time you're going to get More prevalence of complaining.

00:54:12.000 It's the same percentage of people are complaining, but they weren't able to access everyone as they were to get to Katy Perry and bitch about her wearing braids, right?

00:54:21.000 So in the past, like in the Bo Derek days, when Bo Derek wore braids in 10, which is really back before nobody was wearing those cornrows.

00:54:30.000 No one had seen that.

00:54:31.000 Not on that level.

00:54:32.000 I mean, was that a thing in black culture back then, the Bo Derek days?

00:54:36.000 What do you mean, like braids?

00:54:38.000 Yeah, like those, like cornrows?

00:54:39.000 I think since the slave days, since Africa.

00:54:42.000 Since the slave days? 0.58

00:54:42.000 Yeah, but braids have also been in almost every culture. 0.58

00:54:45.000 Right, braids for sure, but those crazy cornrows like that, when you think those... 0.99

00:54:49.000 That was a direct reference, I think, to Caribbean...

00:54:55.000 She was spooky hot. 0.95

00:54:58.000 She would ruin your life. 0.99

00:54:59.000 She was next door? 1.00

00:55:00.000 She wouldn't get anything done if you were banging her. 1.00

00:55:04.000 Very interesting.

00:55:05.000 Because you would have to keep an eye on her all the time.

00:55:07.000 Where are you going?

00:55:08.000 Stay put.

00:55:10.000 I mean, but at the same time, if you learn to be completely confident next to someone like that...

00:55:16.000 I mean, come on.

00:55:17.000 That's like max confidence. 0.99

00:55:19.000 Good fucking luck. 0.99

00:55:19.000 Yeah, I know. 0.99

00:55:20.000 Good luck.

00:55:21.000 You and I can't pull it off.

00:55:22.000 I mean, you couldn't hold it all the time.

00:55:23.000 You couldn't hold it all the time.

00:55:25.000 I would have problems. 1.00

00:55:28.000 You'd have to not want a fucker. 1.00

00:55:30.000 You'd have to be married and happy and successful and not want a fucker. 1.00

00:55:35.000 And really just be comfortable being around. 0.99

00:55:37.000 You think just because you'd want to have sex all the time?

00:55:41.000 Just the possibility. 0.99

00:55:42.000 The possibility that you could fuck someone that's that hot is always a problem for men. 0.99

00:55:46.000 Especially back then. 0.99

00:55:48.000 Yeah.

00:55:49.000 I mean, I think the initial...

00:55:52.000 Making a move and all that stuff.

00:55:54.000 But I think, obviously, if you got used to someone and their personality, it starts to calibrate.

00:56:00.000 She would make you a better person.

00:56:02.000 You'd be a better person if you were around her.

00:56:04.000 She could if she were great.

00:56:06.000 She could if she had a great attitude and she was a positive person.

00:56:10.000 Right, you just wanted to like you more.

00:56:11.000 Or maybe not.

00:56:12.000 Yeah, right, right.

00:56:14.000 I don't know.

00:56:14.000 I mean, I'm just saying, like, I know what you're saying, but I'm like, at the same time, I take that as a personal challenge.

00:56:21.000 Be like, okay, fine, how can I feel confident?

00:56:23.000 I can do it.

00:56:23.000 I can be confident around her.

00:56:25.000 Set it up.

00:56:26.000 I trust you.

00:56:27.000 I trust me.

00:56:28.000 Everything's going to be totally cool.

00:56:30.000 I really think that this complaining thing is what's going on.

00:56:34.000 Nobody likes to have people mad at them.

00:56:36.000 And that's why people get mad at people.

00:56:38.000 That's why people get mad at people over nothing. 0.99

00:56:40.000 They love to find someone who fucked up and get mad. 0.97

00:56:43.000 We were talking about this yesterday, the Anthony Bourdain casual response that he had at the airport by TMZ that became this huge thing where they said, if you had to serve dinner to Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump, what would you serve? 0.99

00:56:55.000 He goes, hemlock.

00:56:57.000 And then he walks away.

00:56:57.000 Which is hilarious.

00:56:58.000 Hilarious.

00:56:58.000 That's awesome.

00:56:59.000 Perfect timing.

00:57:00.000 That's beautiful.

00:57:00.000 It's a one line.

00:57:01.000 It's a joke, you folks.

00:57:02.000 Very well done.

00:57:03.000 And then I was reading all the responses on TMZ about, you know, get the Secret Service on him.

00:57:09.000 He's threatening POTUS. You know, like, oh, it's really...

00:57:13.000 Wow.

00:57:14.000 It's like they... 1.00

00:57:15.000 If you are really offended by that, really offended by that, you are such a monumental pussy that you don't deserve to have an opinion on things. 1.00

00:57:25.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:57:25.000 Like, if that really bothered you to your core, I can't believe he's threatening POTUS. Like, you are such a fucking baby that you shouldn't be allowed to talk about things. 0.99

00:57:35.000 Your opinion, it can't get in. 1.00

00:57:38.000 It can't get in.

00:57:38.000 You're not allowed.

00:57:39.000 And there was hundreds of those people that were commenting on the TMZ thing.

00:57:42.000 And I realized, like, this is just a consequence of people being able to communicate openly with anybody.

00:57:48.000 So, because of that, you're getting...

00:57:51.000 In the moment that they're feeling it.

00:57:52.000 Yes, and you're getting so many people whose opinions just you don't care for, you don't want to hear, you don't appreciate or respect their intellect, and they're spouting out nonsense.

00:58:02.000 But if you're a person who has to hear that, it hurts. 1.00

00:58:05.000 If you read something that's saying, someone's saying really mean shit about Katy Perry and her hair, this fucking bitch thinks she's going to appropriate black culture and this and that, you know, fuck you ho, and she starts reading that. 1.00

00:58:15.000 The panic that sets in, thinking that poor Katy Perry, there's bodyguards with fucking machine guns looking out the windows, and Katy Perry is in her Beverly Hills mansion, and all these girls are like, I'll fucking cut you, ho! 1.00

00:58:26.000 Oh no, they're gonna cut me! 0.99

00:58:28.000 Oh no!

00:58:29.000 She's like a little water balloon walking around her Beverly Hills mansion with her soft, soft body. 0.99

00:58:36.000 So worried.

00:58:38.000 That's tough, man. 1.00

00:58:39.000 This fucking bitch thinks she can take our hair? 1.00

00:58:41.000 Fuck you, bitch! 1.00

00:58:42.000 Has she said that she's worried about that stuff? 1.00

00:58:45.000 No, I'm just making stories.

00:58:47.000 I'm just formulating a scenario.

00:58:50.000 This is like drama here.

00:58:52.000 It's so funny.

00:58:54.000 I mean, for me, I read almost all tweets.

00:58:59.000 Because there's not that many, actually, in mentions.

00:59:02.000 So you read almost all the ones that come to you?

00:59:04.000 You should have never said that. 1.00

00:59:05.000 You fucked up, son. 1.00

00:59:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:59:08.000 No, I tell people, I've told the people that before.

00:59:12.000 I mean, I'm not responding to all of them.

00:59:15.000 And I might not get everyone, but I'm just saying, in general, it's not that bad.

00:59:20.000 Like, it's like, I can actually read through a lot.

00:59:22.000 And it's always interesting, like, if someone brings up a point, sometimes they'll attack at a really hostile angle.

00:59:29.000 Like, at first, they'll be like, you know, you're not funny, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever.

00:59:35.000 And I'll be like...

00:59:36.000 So I'll either do two things.

00:59:37.000 I'll either, like, answer it in an interesting way that kind of addresses their point.

00:59:42.000 Or...

00:59:44.000 Or I'll be like, okay, why do you feel this way?

00:59:47.000 And then talk about it through a few exchanges.

00:59:49.000 And oftentimes at the end of it, someone's like, oh, thanks for taking the time.

00:59:52.000 I'll be like, oh yeah, no problem.

00:59:54.000 I was just wondering what you meant.

00:59:56.000 That's all.

00:59:56.000 I like criticism.

00:59:58.000 I don't mind criticism.

00:59:59.000 I'm not going to be like, if I had a shitty show and someone was like, yeah, it wasn't so great.

01:00:04.000 I'd be like, you know what?

01:00:05.000 You're right.

01:00:06.000 It wasn't that great.

01:00:07.000 Which I love.

01:00:08.000 I love having that dialogue and just being like...

01:00:12.000 Some things I don't answer, but most things, if it has a good point, I'll go for it.

01:00:20.000 Yeah, I mean, the ability to communicate with people has its pros and cons, for sure.

01:00:24.000 Absolutely.

01:00:25.000 And there's a lot of pros.

01:00:26.000 You've got to be able to moderate yourself, and you've got to create some filters, and understand how to just process something very quickly, and just be like, is this worth Energy or not?

01:00:38.000 Yeah.

01:00:38.000 Okay.

01:00:38.000 No energy.

01:00:39.000 When you're someone like Katy Perry, too, you're riding on this wave of popularity.

01:00:43.000 I mean, it's not to say that she's not talented.

01:00:46.000 She certainly is a talented singer and performer, but a big part of who she is relies on her attractiveness and her cultural relevance, like how famous she is right now. 0.99

01:00:58.000 I mean, she's not like... 0.90

01:00:59.000 We're not talking about like... 0.99

01:01:03.000 You know, Liz Phair or Cat Power or someone who's just like only doing their shit. 0.99

01:01:08.000 Yeah, someone who's only doing their shit and you either like it or you don't like it. 0.99

01:01:11.000 No, she's like, she's a rocket ship. 0.99

01:01:14.000 She's a pop star. 0.93

01:01:15.000 Yeah, she's a pop star through culture. 1.00

01:01:17.000 What are you doing?

01:01:18.000 What are you showing me here?

01:01:19.000 100 million followers.

01:01:21.000 104 million followers on Twitter.

01:01:23.000 I'd like you to do a Twitter audit on that because I'm not buying 104. I'll buy 85. The David Bowie image is pretty good.

01:01:31.000 Yeah, I know, right?

01:01:32.000 I guess that was probably in...

01:01:33.000 It's really well done.

01:01:34.000 ...in cultural appropriation.

01:01:36.000 Yeah!

01:01:36.000 That's what that was.

01:01:38.000 She's got mostly real...

01:01:39.000 Appropriating British culture.

01:01:39.000 ...nope, mostly fake.

01:01:41.000 Wow.

01:01:42.000 Fifty-eight million fake.

01:01:43.000 So she... 1.00

01:01:44.000 Katy Perry, you fucking hoe. 1.00

01:01:46.000 I don't mean that, Katie. 1.00

01:01:48.000 Katie, I'm just joking around.

01:01:50.000 Don't get mad at me.

01:01:51.000 We could sit on a couch together with no shoes on, and we'll work through this.

01:01:55.000 Your count's fake.

01:01:57.000 I'll have to wear booties, though.

01:01:59.000 Or maybe Uggs.

01:02:00.000 You know what I'll wear?

01:02:01.000 I'll make everybody uncomfortable and wear those five-finger Vibrams.

01:02:03.000 Oh, please never do that.

01:02:05.000 I wear them all the time?

01:02:05.000 Never do it.

01:02:06.000 Even 43 million real is...

01:02:08.000 Get some fake toes for the front of it. 1.00

01:02:10.000 That's a lot.

01:02:11.000 Snap on toast.

01:02:12.000 What did you say? 1.00

01:02:13.000 I said even 43 million real ones is a fucking shit. 1.00

01:02:15.000 No, no, it's not a lot. 1.00

01:02:16.000 Of course.

01:02:17.000 If you would have said 44, I would have been like, absolutely. 1.00

01:02:20.000 But 43, fuck that. 0.99

01:02:21.000 Listen, yeah, I just, it might not even be her fault. 1.00

01:02:24.000 It might be that she's so famous she attracts fake bots and accounts. 1.00

01:02:28.000 It's entirely possible.

01:02:29.000 Oh, I'm sure.

01:02:30.000 That's all being.

01:02:30.000 Just joking around.

01:02:31.000 But there was a thing recently about Donald Trump's Twitter followers went up by 30 million or some crazy shit. 0.99

01:02:36.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:02:36.000 Wasn't it something like that? 0.97

01:02:37.000 Like, real quick?

01:02:38.000 Yeah.

01:02:38.000 And people were like, those are all bots.

01:02:41.000 Absolutely.

01:02:42.000 It's all artificial inflation.

01:02:43.000 Well, it's like the king has no clothes.

01:02:45.000 But, you know, the thing before that, what you were saying about pop star, like, you know, on how you look and your relevance, that's absolutely true.

01:02:55.000 And that's the thing I always feel for, in a way.

01:02:58.000 I feel for people that base their careers on that.

01:03:01.000 Because...

01:03:03.000 There's a way you can always transition, for sure.

01:03:05.000 It's rough.

01:03:05.000 You could do it.

01:03:07.000 But when you're someone like Joni Mitchell, who both was very striking, but obviously involved in the music that she made, she was responsible for what she was making, and you knew that it was her, her.

01:03:20.000 Whereas a pop star is like, I don't know, they're using Stargate from Sweden.

01:03:23.000 They're using the writing team.

01:03:26.000 A writing team from Australia, they're using, like, whatever.

01:03:28.000 You never know who's involved.

01:03:30.000 And sometimes, maybe she writes her things, because I know that she plays guitar and writes original music.

01:03:36.000 Well, that's the thing about...

01:03:38.000 What's the skinny chick? 1.00

01:03:39.000 Back in the day.

01:03:40.000 Taylor Swift.

01:03:42.000 The thing that people enjoy about...

01:03:43.000 The skinny chick. 1.00

01:03:44.000 Sorry, Taylor.

01:03:44.000 The thing that people really enjoy about Taylor Swift is that she is a songwriter.

01:03:48.000 She writes her...

01:03:49.000 She composes her own stuff.

01:03:50.000 There's a vast majority that is getting angry at ex-boyfriends, but hey, that's her prerogative.

01:03:54.000 That's what she likes to do. 1.00

01:03:55.000 She's a young gal. 1.00

01:03:56.000 She's very sensitive.

01:03:58.000 And that happened to her. 1.00

01:04:00.000 Don't break her heart, bitch. 1.00

01:04:01.000 She'll write a song about you. 1.00

01:04:02.000 Yeah.

01:04:02.000 Or someone just might, just because they want that.

01:04:05.000 They value that over the relationship.

01:04:07.000 Yeah, they were just going for that.

01:04:08.000 Just trying to get that Kardashian thing going on.

01:04:12.000 Trying to get a little fame off that song. 1.00

01:04:14.000 Throw some bad dick away. 1.00

01:04:16.000 Get her angry enough to put pen to paper. 1.00

01:04:19.000 Mm-hmm.

01:04:20.000 Hey, it's a strat. 0.99

01:04:21.000 She'll fuck you up with a song, though, dude. 1.00

01:04:23.000 She comes hard. 1.00

01:04:24.000 Don't let it happen.

01:04:25.000 She throws haymakers.

01:04:26.000 Is that about John Mayer?

01:04:28.000 I mean, Johnny Mitchell did that, right?

01:04:29.000 Sure.

01:04:30.000 A lot of them did that.

01:04:30.000 Or no, Carly Simon.

01:04:31.000 Carly Simon.

01:04:32.000 Yeah. 0.69

01:04:32.000 You're so vain. 0.69

01:04:34.000 You probably think this song is about you. 0.99

01:04:37.000 You're so vain. 0.92

01:04:39.000 You're so vain. 0.86

01:04:41.000 This song is about you, don't you, don't you. 0.71

01:04:46.000 You walked into the party like you were walking into a yacht.

01:04:54.000 That's amazing. 1.00

01:04:57.000 That's a girl that's mad she's not getting that good dick anymore. 1.00

01:05:03.000 Angry, he's got other choices. 1.00

01:05:04.000 Angry, he's decided to just live his life as a sexual vagabond. 1.00

01:05:08.000 You can't just accept him for the freak that he is. 1.00

01:05:11.000 Just let him just wander through the world.

01:05:13.000 It's okay, like you had a brief time with him. 1.00

01:05:15.000 But no, people, when they fuck, they want to own. 0.99

01:05:18.000 They own each other, you know? 0.99

01:05:20.000 Or he might have been vain. 0.92

01:05:22.000 Well, you know, he might have just been a liar. 0.97

01:05:25.000 Ooh, yeah. 0.96

01:05:26.000 Or he might have been annoying.

01:05:27.000 Because then it's like, well, it's not really about that.

01:05:31.000 You know, it's like, what was the thing that happened with Kevin Hart recently?

01:05:35.000 What happened?

01:05:35.000 He just got in front of it.

01:05:38.000 Like, there was a woman that he ended up getting together with one night in Las Vegas and But it was kind of a team, kind of catfished a little bit.

01:05:47.000 They got a tape of him or something like that.

01:05:51.000 This is me just hearing it from other people.

01:05:53.000 This is how informed I am.

01:05:54.000 But I will say, the point is, they tried to extort He just immediately told his wife and told everybody. 0.99

01:06:03.000 It's just like, yeah, I fucked up. 0.99

01:06:04.000 And she's like, hey man, as long as he comes back to me, you know. 0.99

01:06:07.000 I mean, I'm totally paraphrasing everything.

01:06:10.000 I see what you're saying.

01:06:10.000 But for her, it's like he didn't lie.

01:06:14.000 How fascinating is it that there's people that would target him as an opportunity?

01:06:20.000 He's sort of wholesome in a way, but also funny.

01:06:24.000 You know?

01:06:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:25.000 What's so funny, Jamie?

01:06:26.000 What are you after?

01:06:27.000 They're going after NBA players and athletes and NFL players just like that, too.

01:06:31.000 Targeting them and looking at their Instagram account and know where they're going to be.

01:06:35.000 So they're just treated as a business proposition.

01:06:38.000 Oh, yeah.

01:06:39.000 It's like ransomware, but it's the human version.

01:06:41.000 Hilarious.

01:06:43.000 It's a weird time.

01:06:44.000 Weird time.

01:06:45.000 It is a weird time.

01:06:46.000 For stuff like that.

01:06:48.000 It's a weird time for just the interaction that we all have with each other.

01:06:53.000 It's just very strange.

01:06:54.000 It's all the possibilities of where this would go.

01:06:58.000 It used to seem like I kind of saw how the world was going to go.

01:07:01.000 I remember being a kid and being worried about the war with Russia.

01:07:05.000 Remember that, right?

01:07:06.000 Do you remember always being worried?

01:07:07.000 That was a good kind of fear.

01:07:10.000 Yeah.

01:07:10.000 It felt good.

01:07:10.000 It's nostalgic now.

01:07:12.000 But once that sort of dissolved, I felt like I kind of had a sense, at least in some rough form, of what the future was going to be like.

01:07:21.000 Things are going to get better.

01:07:22.000 People are going to get smarter.

01:07:24.000 Life is going to advance.

01:07:26.000 And then all of a sudden the internet came along.

01:07:28.000 And then...

01:07:29.000 Any ideas that I had about what the future was going to be like were now like, huh? 0.98

01:07:33.000 Fucking who knows? 0.90

01:07:34.000 And it kept getting more who knows and more who knows. 1.00

01:07:38.000 And the who knows that I'm at right now is just like, fuck man, where is this going? 0.97

01:07:43.000 I really think it's going to some weird virtual reality thing that people are going to plug into and it's going to be better than life. 0.94

01:07:50.000 Well, yeah, I mean, we're designing a better interface for it all the time, but right now we're limited to little glowing rectangles.

01:07:57.000 We are, but the kids that are super into video games, they're essentially experiencing it right now, just in a weird, you know, they're right in front of the screen, playing games.

01:08:07.000 That's what I'm doing.

01:08:08.000 Do you do that all the time?

01:08:09.000 Yeah.

01:08:10.000 I did, dude.

01:08:10.000 I had an issue for a few years with Quake playing online, which is really fun, multiplayer, but I shy away from computer games now because of that.

01:08:20.000 Too immersive.

01:08:21.000 Too addictive.

01:08:21.000 For me, yeah, man.

01:08:22.000 I'm not good at not doing things I enjoy constantly.

01:08:27.000 Well, my thing is, for me, it's kind of like short stories.

01:08:32.000 Like binge-watching.

01:08:33.000 I'll choose the easiest setting.

01:08:36.000 Oh, so you're playing a video game, though, where you're not interacting with other people online.

01:08:41.000 Yeah, I'm playing by myself.

01:08:42.000 Or co-op.

01:08:44.000 My thing is, I think games, this is when you're talking about where is it going, you know?

01:08:49.000 I think what will help, and what I think people really dig, is I think people are going to get tired of these first-person shooters.

01:08:56.000 It's always like, shooter, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, explode, explode, shoot.

01:09:00.000 I don't mind necessarily doing that.

01:09:02.000 I like it when it's more cartoony.

01:09:03.000 That's why I'm a fan of Borderlands.

01:09:05.000 It's kind of like this cool cell-shaded, looks like you're playing a comic book.

01:09:10.000 Puzzle-solving and stuff.

01:09:12.000 No, it's a first-person shooter with lots of guns, lots of explosions, but everything is like cartoony and Mad Max-y.

01:09:17.000 Oh, okay.

01:09:18.000 But not like crazy cartoony, just like comic book cartoony.

01:09:22.000 Right, right.

01:09:22.000 So there's like this cool joyfulness to it.

01:09:25.000 You got a video of that?

01:09:26.000 I'd love to see what that looks like.

01:09:27.000 Yeah, check out some Borderlands 2. I've seen picture ads, I think, at the mall when you walk by the video game store.

01:09:34.000 Yeah, you'd see it.

01:09:35.000 It kind of looks like a Mad That Max thing.

01:09:37.000 There's always some guy with a gun. 0.88

01:09:38.000 He's got his fingers to his head like he's blowing his brains out. 0.81

01:09:41.000 And then there's some graphic. 0.78

01:09:42.000 There you go.

01:09:43.000 Oh, yeah.

01:09:44.000 And the dude's wearing a gas mask.

01:09:45.000 See if you can find a video.

01:09:47.000 Yeah.

01:09:48.000 See what this looks like.

01:09:49.000 It's a really fun game.

01:09:50.000 And you can play co-op. 0.98

01:09:51.000 How often do you play this sucker? 0.97

01:09:52.000 I mean, I'm playing Divinity 2 right now. 1.00

01:09:56.000 Dude, you're an addict, huh? 0.78

01:09:58.000 I like it. 0.99

01:09:58.000 Well, not that. 0.99

01:09:59.000 Look at this.

01:10:00.000 This is dope.

01:10:01.000 Is this what it looks like when you're playing it?

01:10:02.000 This is someone playing it right now.

01:10:04.000 This is someone playing it right now?

01:10:05.000 This is live?

01:10:06.000 The top thing that popped on Google is someone on Twitch playing.

01:10:08.000 Oh, so we're watching someone live on Twitch play.

01:10:11.000 Okay, here's the question.

01:10:12.000 Why is it so compelling?

01:10:14.000 And it is compelling.

01:10:15.000 But why is it so compelling watching people play games?

01:10:18.000 It's It's hard to explain.

01:10:19.000 I think it's because it's like a movie, but it simulates real-time action from the first-person point of view, and so it's kind of exciting.

01:10:32.000 Did you ever see Hardcore Henry?

01:10:34.000 No, I did not.

01:10:35.000 That movie is shot all first person?

01:10:37.000 Yeah, I heard it was awesome.

01:10:38.000 It's amazing.

01:10:39.000 It's some of the best fight stunt work I've ever seen.

01:10:41.000 The choreography is insane.

01:10:43.000 This is super compelling.

01:10:44.000 I feel like my seven-year-old now, like if I take my seven-year-old to a restaurant and the TV's on, they stare at the TV. You know, little kids like stare at TV. I feel like that.

01:10:52.000 Like, you're talking about Hardcore Henry, and I'm like, yeah, probably pretty cool. 0.99

01:10:55.000 But I mean, while I'm just staring at this fucking video game. 0.69

01:10:57.000 Well, this is also a weird level. 0.98

01:10:59.000 This is, like, some weird, like, extra thing.

01:11:02.000 This isn't the game.

01:11:03.000 Because the game looks even more, like, desert-y, cartoony.

01:11:06.000 This is, like, some, like, bonus... 0.94

01:11:08.000 Well, whatever it is, it's fucking awesome.

01:11:10.000 Oh, yeah, it's like, use that one, like, Sanctuary, or... 0.57

01:11:13.000 Jamie, these are all people playing on Twitch?

01:11:15.000 Jesus.

01:11:17.000 I was hoping you were going to go to talk about this game.

01:11:19.000 This is a new game that's gotten really popular right now.

01:11:22.000 Oh, PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds.

01:11:23.000 It's gotten popular using Twitch, really.

01:11:25.000 So this is a Battle Royale game, sort of like the Hunger Games, if you've seen that.

01:11:28.000 It's sick.

01:11:29.000 Nine tips for combat, survival.

01:11:33.000 What can you use?

01:11:34.000 You could use a gun or a bow?

01:11:35.000 So you drop 100 players, drop into a map.

01:11:38.000 It's an island.

01:11:39.000 It's about five square miles.

01:11:40.000 Oh! 0.60

01:11:41.000 And the border encroaches over time. 0.94

01:11:44.000 Circle comes in and starts killing you as you come in.

01:11:46.000 It's a kill zone that slowly starts moving in.

01:11:49.000 All of the guns and anything you find in the map is randomly placed around the map.

01:11:53.000 So you're starting, everyone starts to scratch with just a fist.

01:11:56.000 And your goal is to survive or play hide and seek. 0.99

01:11:59.000 So either you become the badass that kills everyone. 0.99

01:12:02.000 Or you get jacked. 0.99

01:12:03.000 Or you just hide the whole game.

01:12:04.000 You just survive to the end.

01:12:05.000 But meanwhile, people are watching this on Twitch also.

01:12:08.000 But it's compelling.

01:12:09.000 It's the most popular thing to watch on there, too.

01:12:10.000 That's amazing.

01:12:11.000 It makes sense, though, because you're seeing all these people.

01:12:13.000 It's like watching a gladiator match.

01:12:15.000 Yeah, but hold on.

01:12:16.000 If they're watching it on Twitch, can someone have a chat in the other screen where the person who's playing can read the chat and read where people are?

01:12:22.000 I've been doing that recently, and they can talk to me while I'm playing.

01:12:26.000 They give me tips sometimes.

01:12:27.000 I'll miss something, like I'll skip a scope, and like, hey, you missed the scope, or you missed that awesome gun, go back and get it.

01:12:32.000 Right, but my question is, is it possible for them to also be monitoring the other people in the game and tell you where those people are?

01:12:39.000 That's called stream sniping, and that's a cheating thing that's sort of being handled right now.

01:12:43.000 How's this being handled?

01:12:44.000 You can delay your stream a little bit.

01:12:46.000 You can hide different things that give away your location on the map.

01:12:49.000 Interesting.

01:12:50.000 Like it's a setting that you can have?

01:12:52.000 I think that's just a problem with people being able to chat with each other.

01:12:57.000 A little bit.

01:12:57.000 So, like, Mighty Mouse is actually doing this, too, and he did a custom game with all of his fans, and 100 people that were just watching him, I jumped in, too, were all playing, and Rampage does this, too, and people end up going to attack them, because they want to be the guy that killed Mighty Mouse in the game, or whatever it is,

01:13:13.000 but, like, they're just watching his thing.

01:13:15.000 That's so funny. 1.00

01:13:15.000 I want to be the one to kill! 1.00

01:13:16.000 That's amazing. 1.00

01:13:17.000 He's gonna...

01:13:18.000 Yeah.

01:13:19.000 But the thing that I like, I like co-op games.

01:13:22.000 So I like fighting AI with other humans.

01:13:24.000 Like, you know, like people either, like, that are, they're coming, because what I discovered when I was playing, um, uh, what is it called?

01:13:33.000 The game with the mechs.

01:13:35.000 The mechs?

01:13:36.000 The new one?

01:13:37.000 Yeah, new one.

01:13:38.000 What is mechs?

01:13:38.000 Mechs are robot suits, exoskeletons.

01:13:41.000 Oh, okay.

01:13:41.000 But more like walking tanks.

01:13:43.000 Walking on it.

01:13:44.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

01:13:46.000 It's like a hugely popular game.

01:13:47.000 But I was playing it, and it's one of those massive...

01:13:51.000 Multiplayer games and like every time it starts like there's all these people running around and you don't know anybody you might you might but I didn't and I would just get killed within Milliseconds.

01:14:02.000 Did you ever play?

01:14:04.000 It wasn't fun.

01:14:05.000 Did you ever play unreal?

01:14:06.000 No, no unreal tournament.

01:14:07.000 Yeah unreal and unreal tournament Does that was another one that kind of like oh gotcha came like quake like and they had all these crazy cool weapons Yeah amazing graphics.

01:14:17.000 That's what these all are They're all that.

01:14:19.000 It's like massive weapon systems.

01:14:21.000 You're switching weapons constantly.

01:14:23.000 You can craft weapons.

01:14:25.000 You can collect ingredients to craft weapons.

01:14:29.000 Divinity 2 is an interesting...

01:14:30.000 Oh, Titanfall.

01:14:32.000 Titanfall.

01:14:32.000 Oh, yeah.

01:14:33.000 It's a huge game, right?

01:14:34.000 Yeah, it's massive, massive.

01:14:35.000 Oh, you climb in there?

01:14:36.000 It's gorgeous.

01:14:37.000 I love mech suits.

01:14:38.000 Like, who doesn't like being...

01:14:39.000 Like, were you talking about being the Hulk?

01:14:41.000 Yeah.

01:14:41.000 Like, this is what you get to be.

01:14:42.000 Like, this massive machine.

01:14:44.000 This is awesome.

01:14:46.000 It's really cool, but I was just, like, so bad at it.

01:14:49.000 I was just constantly getting killed. 1.00

01:14:51.000 These fucking kids today. 1.00

01:14:52.000 And it wasn't fun. 1.00

01:14:53.000 Too good at games.

01:14:54.000 And I was like, this is cool.

01:14:55.000 You know, it's...

01:14:56.000 It's cool to imagine yourself in these situations.

01:14:59.000 It's cool.

01:15:00.000 But I also like playing cooperatively.

01:15:02.000 So if I was doing this, playing with other players, and I had a team, I guess that would be something I would try.

01:15:10.000 Being on a team against other human beings.

01:15:12.000 It's just so fucking much time you have to take out of your life to play these things.

01:15:17.000 Well, here's the thing that you might get into.

01:15:20.000 Warehouse scale RPG, VR RPGs.

01:15:24.000 Oh, I've heard of that.

01:15:25.000 I've heard they're trying to set up...

01:15:28.000 Wasn't there a place that was doing a virtual reality in Utah?

01:15:31.000 Wasn't it like in Utah?

01:15:32.000 Oh, you think it's Salt Lake City?

01:15:33.000 The Void.

01:15:34.000 Yeah, they're setting up a whole environment.

01:15:38.000 Yeah, they have one set up.

01:15:39.000 Yeah, it's great.

01:15:40.000 They did the Ghostbusters thing at Madame Tussard's Wax Museum in New York for the Ghostbusters.

01:15:46.000 Yeah, this...

01:15:47.000 Yeah.

01:15:47.000 The future of virtual reality, Time Magazine.

01:15:50.000 It's crazy.

01:15:50.000 Like, you wear a backpack.

01:15:51.000 It's a backpack computer, so you're wireless.

01:15:53.000 And then they have custom goggles that they fit on you. 1.00

01:15:56.000 Look at this shit. 0.99

01:15:57.000 And all of this is mapped in an environment. 1.00

01:16:00.000 So, you're holding the guns, you look down, you see the gun, the gun moves when you move it.

01:16:05.000 So these people are walking through some environment.

01:16:08.000 This is insane!

01:16:10.000 So it's mapped.

01:16:12.000 So this is what you're seeing in the reality.

01:16:14.000 And so certain things, you know, it depends on how one-to-one.

01:16:17.000 I hope that in the future with real-time...

01:16:22.000 Data capture with cloud capture you'll be able to pick up objects like it'll actually be able to Track up teddy bear and you reach out and the teddy bears there.

01:16:31.000 It's lined up well So you naturalistically grab it you squeeze it and in real time the the the system is reading it so it's actually puppeting all the objects in the room and So yeah, and then the floor rumbles.

01:16:46.000 There's steam that comes out, you know, kind of like a ride, but you are the visual component you're hijacked.

01:16:52.000 So right now it's just Ghostbusters?

01:16:54.000 Is that what it is?

01:16:55.000 Ghostbusters and The Void.

01:16:56.000 The Void is, I think it's public.

01:16:59.000 I think you can go there.

01:17:01.000 Yeah, so The Void, but there's a place that's opening up hopefully in Los Angeles, which is totally rife for it because there's a huge VR community here.

01:17:10.000 That's Santa Monica, yeah.

01:17:11.000 Oh, really?

01:17:11.000 Yeah, there's at least five major players in the Santa Monica area.

01:17:19.000 Major players?

01:17:20.000 What do you mean by major players?

01:17:21.000 Like people, humans?

01:17:22.000 Like big-time players?

01:17:23.000 Yeah, like Weaver.

01:17:25.000 Like they have stars?

01:17:27.000 They have titles that they're working on, and they have experiences, what some people call simulations, experiences, interactive experiences, or just puzzles or whatever.

01:17:40.000 There's people innovating for VR, so they're production companies that make VR videos.

01:17:46.000 They encode, or they code, they...

01:17:49.000 Create software, or they're just really good at capturing.

01:17:52.000 There's 8i, which does spherical capture, or volumetric capture, it's called.

01:17:59.000 Yeah, so there's a lot of people here.

01:18:02.000 So the technology is here, and it's always being innovated, but at warehouse scale is the perfect marriage for people, especially in LA, who like to be active.

01:18:11.000 It might feel weird about sitting down in a chair and just staring at a screen with a controller in their hand, but they can understand naturalistic movement.

01:18:19.000 Right, right, right.

01:18:20.000 And you can, in a warehouse scale, you can actually see the size of the room and feel the breadth of the space.

01:18:26.000 So, in that particular video, it seemed like they had chairs and tables and everything like that, but the actual textures on those chairs, that was all added later.

01:18:35.000 Yes, all the graphics.

01:18:37.000 So the objects were real, but they looked way different.

01:18:39.000 Some of the objects, yeah.

01:18:40.000 Like the major obstacles are there.

01:18:43.000 The chair was crazy because they have a chair in the video game that seemed to me to be very different.

01:18:49.000 Like the brick wall is very different.

01:18:50.000 That's what I mean.

01:18:51.000 It's not one-to-one.

01:18:52.000 It's just a basic representation.

01:18:55.000 I'm saying in the future, you'll actually be able to just have a movie set, and the system will already have a preloaded, pre-scanned, sized version of that room, but then there'll be sensors that are real-time calibrating it to make sure that it's rock solid,

01:19:11.000 so when you reach out, you're like, oh, I don't feel like I had to move my hand a little higher to grab this.

01:19:15.000 Right, you can just reach out, and it's right there.

01:19:16.000 Yeah, it's a one-for-one representation.

01:19:18.000 Do you think that the chair is bolted to the ground?

01:19:21.000 Wow, look at these people all walking through there.

01:19:23.000 Where is this if they're doing that?

01:19:25.000 This was called VR studio, VRcade.

01:19:28.000 This might have been a demonstration.

01:19:30.000 Yeah, VRcade. 1.00

01:19:31.000 This is fucking insane. 0.96

01:19:33.000 If this is the future, man, it's gonna be really, really weird. 0.99

01:19:37.000 I know.

01:19:37.000 I mean, it's gonna be so weird.

01:19:39.000 I mean, imagine if the mapping becomes so rock solid that you could reliably run up a flight of stairs.

01:19:46.000 Oh my god, that's so crazy!

01:19:48.000 I mean, that sounds like a whatever, but it's like, it's not, it's not.

01:19:52.000 And then once it becomes wireless, I mean, remember when the only way to get to the internet, yeah, the only way to get to the internet was to have an ethernet cable connected to your device, right?

01:20:01.000 Now, that's silly.

01:20:02.000 I don't have an ethernet cable anywhere.

01:20:04.000 I don't even know where to get one.

01:20:05.000 The only problem with VR is that the processing power, so for a while it had to be tethered to a PC. Now they have PC backpacks.

01:20:13.000 Well, now I guarantee you what they're going to have is like one of those, you know how you get one of those five charge battery packs for a phone where you recharge it five times? 0.99

01:20:22.000 They're going to get one of those bitches. 1.00

01:20:23.000 It's going to hook up to your phone and everything's going to take place. 1.00

01:20:26.000 All the processing is going to be on your phone. 1.00

01:20:28.000 You're going to have a Bluetooth headset and you're going to be able to go out into a park and do this shit. 0.97

01:20:32.000 Yeah, it'll be like Bluetooth 15.0. 0.96

01:20:35.000 Yeah, like you and your friends, you'll just have to walk across the park.

01:20:38.000 Like, you remember when you first got an iPhone and you had to do the fingerprint a bunch of times?

01:20:44.000 Yeah.

01:20:44.000 Like, in all sorts of different ways.

01:20:46.000 The side, the front, the back.

01:20:48.000 That's what you'll have to do.

01:20:48.000 You're like, okay, define your parameters.

01:20:50.000 Calibrate.

01:20:51.000 And everybody will walk through the park together and crisscross.

01:20:54.000 And then once the computer has enough data, they go, okay.

01:20:57.000 Processing.

01:20:58.000 The game begins in 10, 9, 8, and then...

01:21:02.000 You're in Avatar World.

01:21:03.000 It just transforms.

01:21:04.000 Well, see, that's the thing.

01:21:05.000 It's like, you know, you have augmented reality and virtual reality.

01:21:09.000 Augmented reality is interesting.

01:21:11.000 Microsoft's HoloLens uses this real-time, like, basically can see the environment around it by mapping it.

01:21:16.000 So it stereoscopically maps it, and it creates a really quick texture map of the environment that you're in.

01:21:23.000 So imagine that mixed with, like, the idea behind, I forget the name of the The project, but it was an early Microsoft project where it basically scraped all relevant types of photos and stitched them together and created virtual 3D environments of locations based on photographs that are everywhere on the internet.

01:21:43.000 So it could recreate a plaza in Italy.

01:21:46.000 And then using, like, kind of interpolation, like the AI software, kind of stitching it together, blah, blah, blah.

01:21:51.000 So imagine that existing already just because people are passing by with their phones, they're taking pictures, they're taking video.

01:21:58.000 So all of that data is now present according to the location that you're at, mixed with headsets that are able to scan in real time collectively that also gets processed and stitched together, cross-referenced together, so that instantaneously you can have a mapped, almost one-for-one game zone in a giant park.

01:22:15.000 Like, pretty quick.

01:22:17.000 And just like how you described it.

01:22:19.000 But, like, using things that are in the headset, that are tracking in real time, and then transmitting, or that are completely internal to the headset, and then also networked intelligence, too, simultaneously.

01:22:30.000 And then also probably some fake stuff that they can create visually and with 3D sound.

01:22:36.000 Totally.

01:22:36.000 Yes.

01:22:37.000 Where you can see, like, you know, if you're doing an avatar game, you can see the dragons flying overhead.

01:22:41.000 You're like, Jesus.

01:22:42.000 Yeah.

01:22:42.000 The HoloLens does that.

01:22:44.000 It's got these two little slits.

01:22:45.000 They're not even like regular speakers.

01:22:47.000 They're slits that are above your ears that are pointed down.

01:22:49.000 It's almost like hypersonic sound, you know, like sound that can be basically paper thin.

01:22:54.000 So if I move the axis, you can't hear it.

01:22:56.000 And then if I move it back on axis and you haven't moved your head, you'll hear it specifically in one tiny, thin slice of audio.

01:23:05.000 It has to be very precise, so it's a form of that, but they're just pointing down, and they can simulate Dolby 5.1 binaurally, which is insane.

01:23:13.000 Think about how crazy your earplugs are, right? 0.92

01:23:18.000 Look at this little tiny-ass speaker. 0.98

01:23:20.000 This little tiny-ass speaker, when it's in your ear, it can get too loud. 0.94

01:23:26.000 Absolutely.

01:23:27.000 If I listen to music sometimes, it can get too loud with these things.

01:23:30.000 And I've got to get you better headphones.

01:23:32.000 These are great.

01:23:33.000 They're good.

01:23:34.000 What's wrong with them?

01:23:35.000 They're the ones that come with the iPhone.

01:23:37.000 Yeah, they're okay.

01:23:39.000 They have a lot of high-end, which is not good for your hearing.

01:23:42.000 Oh, not good for your hearing.

01:23:43.000 Yeah, I like things that are soft on my ears, but I can hear clearly.

01:23:47.000 It's about precision.

01:23:47.000 What's the difference?

01:23:48.000 Does this fuck your ears up? 0.98

01:23:50.000 I would say Shure's are really good. 0.98

01:23:52.000 It depends on what you're using for.

01:23:53.000 I have Shure's.

01:23:54.000 I think the EarPods actually sound really fucking great.

01:23:57.000 Yeah?

01:23:58.000 So I like the EarPods.

01:23:59.000 They're better.

01:23:59.000 I like them better than the headphones that come standard.

01:24:02.000 Anytime headphones are included, they're okay.

01:24:05.000 But they're not great.

01:24:06.000 I mean, on an Apple standard, better than most.

01:24:10.000 The EarPods are more precise.

01:24:12.000 The EarPods just sound natural.

01:24:14.000 They sound like...

01:24:15.000 I'm really surprised.

01:24:16.000 I'm prepared for them not to sound good almost every time I use them.

01:24:20.000 But they sound great because they don't seal the ear.

01:24:23.000 They sit in the ear.

01:24:25.000 But the design is so ingenious that even when I'm working out, I'm like...

01:24:29.000 I'm, like, on the bench, getting up, jumping around.

01:24:32.000 They're still not falling out.

01:24:33.000 And they sound great.

01:24:34.000 The bass sounds all natural.

01:24:35.000 And then I'll put in, like, a high-end pair.

01:24:37.000 I have, like, a crazy amount of headphones.

01:24:39.000 And I'll put in some, like, crazy headphones.

01:24:42.000 Like, some Audis, whatever, Planner, Magnetic bullshits.

01:24:46.000 Like, little tiny ones that don't require much power.

01:24:48.000 A phone would power it.

01:24:49.000 Fine.

01:24:50.000 But I put those in, and I'm like, oh, wow, that sounds...

01:24:53.000 Really small.

01:24:54.000 I have to adjust to its detail, whereas the iPods, as soon as I put them in, I'm like, oh, that just sounds like a nice, perfect frequency curve.

01:25:01.000 It feels very flat and real.

01:25:03.000 Wow, that's a strong endorsement.

01:25:05.000 Pretty good, yeah.

01:25:06.000 I was very impressed with them.

01:25:09.000 I bought them, and I never opened the box.

01:25:11.000 Really?

01:25:12.000 Yeah, I got it sitting at home.

01:25:13.000 They're easy to pair, man.

01:25:14.000 And it's cool, because I just have them in my jeans all the time.

01:25:16.000 Ah, right, a little tiny thing.

01:25:17.000 And it's easier to handle than this wire. 0.99

01:25:19.000 Yeah, that wire gets fucked up. 0.62

01:25:21.000 Yeah, I just pull it out, and it's so fun, because the way it snaps, close, and open magnetically is so satisfying. 0.98

01:25:27.000 How long does the battery life last on those suckers?

01:25:29.000 I think it's eight hours.

01:25:30.000 Really?

01:25:31.000 I think with the case.

01:25:32.000 The charge case recharges twice.

01:25:33.000 Dung James got it right there. 0.94

01:25:35.000 They pair with the Apple Watch too, so you can leave your phone at home now.

01:25:38.000 Yes, I have the new Apple Watch.

01:25:39.000 Did you get the 3?

01:25:40.000 LTE, yeah.

01:25:41.000 Sirius 3, brah!

01:25:43.000 So what's the deal with the 3?

01:25:44.000 What's better?

01:25:45.000 LTE. Now you can leave your phone at home and just take your watch?

01:25:48.000 Yeah.

01:25:49.000 Are you comfortable enough with your life to do that?

01:25:51.000 Yeah.

01:25:52.000 I mean, if I'm going to a concert or something like that, I think what's great about this, when I saw people talking about, like, what do you think about the Apple Watch when they first announced it? 0.99

01:26:03.000 There were so many people that were like, it's so stupid. 0.97

01:26:05.000 You already have a phone. 1.00

01:26:06.000 Why does your watch need to be a phone?

01:26:09.000 And they're saying all these things related to that.

01:26:12.000 And I'm like, guys, you don't get it.

01:26:13.000 It's about having to not manage a physical object.

01:26:20.000 The watch is on your wrist.

01:26:21.000 It just stays on your wrist the whole day.

01:26:23.000 I mean, unless you take it off or whatever.

01:26:25.000 But most of the time, you just leave it on the whole day.

01:26:27.000 And it's always there.

01:26:29.000 You don't have to manage it.

01:26:30.000 Like, if you want to make a call, you make a call.

01:26:32.000 If you want to take a call, you know, you have your ear pods.

01:26:34.000 You can do a full call.

01:26:36.000 You can listen to your music on it.

01:26:37.000 How much power, battery-wise, does that thing have?

01:26:41.000 I think on LTE, what is it, like six, five hours? 0.87

01:26:44.000 That's ridiculous.

01:26:45.000 Something like that. 0.95

01:26:46.000 What do you live in a half a day?

01:26:47.000 Haven't used it yet. 1.00

01:26:48.000 Figure it out, you fucks. 0.99

01:26:49.000 Get it so that thing works better. 0.98

01:26:51.000 Yeah, that's like all LTE, but realistically, you're not going to be on LTE all the time, so depending on your usage, I think it'll last.

01:27:00.000 Is that five hours of talking?

01:27:02.000 I think of, yeah, LTE, like talking or something like that.

01:27:05.000 But I think, for me, I'm like around 67, 74% every day.

01:27:10.000 Really?

01:27:11.000 At the end of every day.

01:27:12.000 So I can go a couple days without charging it, actually.

01:27:14.000 Ooh, bold move, though.

01:27:16.000 I know.

01:27:16.000 I like it though.

01:27:17.000 I like it.

01:27:18.000 I feel like a rebel.

01:27:19.000 I like pushing it, man.

01:27:21.000 These wireless pads are going to be everywhere soon enough.

01:27:23.000 Yeah, I'm using it on my iPhone.

01:27:25.000 Or the watch rather.

01:27:27.000 I just got the 8 Plus and just set it right on there.

01:27:30.000 You got the 8 Plus?

01:27:30.000 Are you going to get the 10 as well?

01:27:31.000 Are you a hedonist? 1.00

01:27:32.000 You're a crazy person. 0.99

01:27:33.000 I have like almost every top of the line phone because I want to know Android because I have a T-Mobile account and an AT&T account. 1.00

01:27:40.000 So you want to learn Android, so you're fucking around with it? 0.80

01:27:43.000 So I'm always updating. 0.97

01:27:44.000 I just want to know what's the UI philosophy.

01:27:47.000 What do they think is interesting?

01:27:49.000 Because they're too divergent, but they're very similar.

01:27:52.000 Very similar.

01:27:53.000 I like to check out, like, oh, what's the difference?

01:27:55.000 That's really frustrating that iPhone doesn't do that.

01:27:57.000 That's frustrating that this doesn't do that.

01:28:00.000 For me, if it wasn't for AirDrop...

01:28:02.000 Yeah.

01:28:03.000 Airdrop's kind of keeping me on board.

01:28:04.000 Yep.

01:28:05.000 Like, I realized how much I liked that.

01:28:06.000 I tried the Google Pixel, which I really liked.

01:28:09.000 Yeah, that's a great phone.

01:28:10.000 It's a great phone.

01:28:10.000 And the Pixel 2 is supposed to be even better.

01:28:12.000 But the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 might be the best phone in the world, they say.

01:28:17.000 Yeah, I have the 8 Plus.

01:28:19.000 It's very beautiful.

01:28:21.000 The Note Plus?

01:28:22.000 The 8. No, I'm not going to do the Note.

01:28:24.000 Galaxy 8 Plus.

01:28:24.000 Yeah, Galaxy 8 Plus, yeah.

01:28:25.000 But the Note is, you know, similar, same thing.

01:28:28.000 Right.

01:28:29.000 But it's got, obviously, the stylus.

01:28:30.000 The pen, yeah.

01:28:31.000 And there's a couple...

01:28:32.000 Other features.

01:28:33.000 I think the camera's the same.

01:28:35.000 But it's just got a couple extra features, so I just stick with the smaller.

01:28:39.000 What do you think about it?

01:28:41.000 The 8 Plus?

01:28:41.000 Yeah.

01:28:42.000 I love it.

01:28:42.000 The screen is gorgeous.

01:28:44.000 Amazing, right?

01:28:44.000 It is so...

01:28:45.000 The colors are just insane.

01:28:47.000 It's really beautiful.

01:28:49.000 And once you have no bevel...

01:28:50.000 Yeah.

01:28:51.000 You look at it...

01:28:52.000 Yeah.

01:28:52.000 Is it bezel?

01:28:53.000 Bezel.

01:28:54.000 Why did it say bevel?

01:28:55.000 I thought you might have said bezel, because it was soft enough of a V. I was like, he said bezel, but it just sounded weird.

01:29:01.000 I caught myself out on it.

01:29:02.000 That's a good job, man.

01:29:04.000 But it's so much more beautiful than seeing that edge.

01:29:07.000 That edge is like the obvious edge at the bottom of the iPhone, where your fingerprint scanner goes, and the top of the iPhone, where that speaker is.

01:29:13.000 The chin.

01:29:13.000 It looks clunky.

01:29:14.000 Yeah, it's totally clunky, and it's the next step.

01:29:20.000 Before augmented reality glasses, so that your phone are your glasses.

01:29:25.000 When I look at the Note 8, Redband has the Note 8, it looks like Minority Report.

01:29:29.000 I'm looking at this, I'm like, wow.

01:29:31.000 That's the whole screen.

01:29:32.000 Yeah, you're holding the screen.

01:29:34.000 It's all screen.

01:29:35.000 This is like the future.

01:29:36.000 It's pretty rad.

01:29:37.000 Yeah.

01:29:38.000 It legitimately feels to me like a big step up from like a regular phone.

01:29:42.000 I look at that, I'm like, okay, this is obviously next level.

01:29:45.000 Yeah, I got the Essential phone, too, just to see what that display was like to kind of get a preview for the iPhone X. The iPhone X is going to be insane.

01:29:53.000 That's going to blow it all out of the water.

01:29:55.000 It's great.

01:29:56.000 I mean, I will say that their product design has been like, there was like a period where I'm like, eh.

01:30:00.000 Like what?

01:30:01.000 Just kind of like their last few iterations of computer.

01:30:04.000 I mean, I always get the new everything from Apple, pretty much, and then just either sell or find someone who needs a computer or whatever and just give it to them.

01:30:13.000 So I cycle through a lot of technology.

01:30:17.000 And just for a while, the laptops were cool.

01:30:20.000 There were some nice improvements.

01:30:22.000 I mean, I like the MacBook Pro design.

01:30:24.000 It's pretty cool.

01:30:25.000 I like the strip.

01:30:26.000 I thought it was going to be a gimmick.

01:30:27.000 The strip's cool.

01:30:28.000 The strip becomes an issue with me because I have fat fingers and sometimes I hit Siri accidentally.

01:30:31.000 Oh, yeah.

01:30:32.000 I disable Siri.

01:30:34.000 I did disable it.

01:30:35.000 For a laptop.

01:30:36.000 No, but I did too.

01:30:37.000 But it doesn't matter.

01:30:37.000 When I accidentally hit the button, it says series disabled.

01:30:40.000 Would you like to go on?

01:30:41.000 I'm like, no. 1.00

01:30:42.000 Assholes. 1.00

01:30:43.000 See, that's what I'm talking about. 1.00

01:30:44.000 But that's me.

01:30:46.000 But it shouldn't be there.

01:30:47.000 It's also Apple.

01:30:48.000 I mean, it's right there. 0.99

01:30:50.000 It's right there where the fucking delete key is. 0.98

01:30:52.000 If your finger slips and goes up there... 0.99

01:30:54.000 It just falls in there.

01:30:56.000 Boom.

01:30:56.000 Would you like to enable Siri?

01:30:57.000 No, you bitch! 1.00

01:30:58.000 See, it's saying it right now. 1.00

01:30:59.000 I don't like it.

01:31:00.000 No, cancel.

01:31:00.000 Nope.

01:31:01.000 Just learn.

01:31:02.000 You know what I mean?

01:31:03.000 Just learn.

01:31:03.000 I want my technology to learn better.

01:31:05.000 It's not learning very well.

01:31:06.000 The thing about being able to switch windows on the bar is kind of interesting, but quite honestly, I'd never use it either.

01:31:12.000 Never use it.

01:31:12.000 I would prefer mechanical buttons for sound, too.

01:31:16.000 I agree with that.

01:31:17.000 It's way faster.

01:31:18.000 It's way faster to just reach instead of...

01:31:20.000 You have to press it once, and then you have to press it again, and then you have to adjust the sound.

01:31:24.000 Why don't I have just a plus and a minus like normal?

01:31:27.000 I know.

01:31:27.000 There's probably a keyboard combo you can use.

01:31:29.000 I think it's Command-App or Plus- The only other complaint that I would have is, I really like a tactile, mechanical-feeling keyboard when I write, in particular.

01:31:40.000 A bigger key throw?

01:31:42.000 Yeah, I like this one, because I like this new MacBook Pro better than the last MacBook Pro.

01:31:47.000 Because the last one was kind of mushy a little bit, and this one is more like, it seems like real positive feedback when it clicks in.

01:31:54.000 What I really like is the Lenovo Thinkpads.

01:31:58.000 They have this amazing keyboard that works.

01:32:01.000 You feel where the keys are.

01:32:04.000 I type faster with it.

01:32:06.000 It just feels like my fingers...

01:32:07.000 More certainty.

01:32:07.000 Yeah, my fingers just can communicate with it better.

01:32:10.000 Yeah, these are like flat.

01:32:11.000 They're like flat rectangles.

01:32:13.000 They're not very high off the ground either.

01:32:15.000 No.

01:32:15.000 So because of the fact they're not very high off of the rest of the keyboard, you're not sure what you're touching sometimes.

01:32:20.000 Especially if you have calluses, I guess, and if you have sensitive fingers, you know?

01:32:24.000 Yeah, I get that.

01:32:25.000 So you have to just understand the spacing of it, but it's almost like they're preparing you for typing on a glass screen the same way you type on your iPhone.

01:32:32.000 Right.

01:32:33.000 And see, I'm not a big fan of that.

01:32:34.000 I think we should be able to speak to our computers.

01:32:37.000 Yeah, I mean, and they go, oh, you can just get a keyboard to attach to it.

01:32:40.000 Okay, I don't want that.

01:32:42.000 I wanted this.

01:32:43.000 This is the whole thing for a laptop in the first place.

01:32:45.000 Totally.

01:32:45.000 Why don't you just sell me a screen and a keyboard?

01:32:47.000 Yeah, totally. 1.00

01:32:48.000 The fuck you doing? 1.00

01:32:48.000 I know. 1.00

01:32:49.000 Do you have an Echo or any of those things?

01:32:51.000 Yeah, I got an Echo.

01:32:52.000 I've never set it up.

01:32:53.000 Don't use it.

01:32:54.000 Someone gave it to me as a gift.

01:32:55.000 I get it.

01:32:56.000 Just sitting there and I go, hmm.

01:32:59.000 I totally get that.

01:33:00.000 But I will say, I use it for my lights in my house, which is really nice.

01:33:04.000 So as I'm going to bed, I'll just be like, computer, turn lights off.

01:33:08.000 Can you change the way you talk to it? 1.00

01:33:11.000 Can you say, shut the lights off, bitch? 1.00

01:33:12.000 No, I wish. 1.00

01:33:13.000 See, it needs to do that.

01:33:14.000 We need to be able to do that.

01:33:16.000 But it's going to get there.

01:33:17.000 Don't worry.

01:33:17.000 It's coming.

01:33:18.000 Bitch, dim these lights. 1.00

01:33:19.000 And then you can set it up. 1.00

01:33:20.000 No, but I'm just saying, you can speak to it super fast.

01:33:23.000 So I can say, like, I'm in the living room and I want the lights off.

01:33:26.000 I'll just say, computer, turn the living room lights off.

01:33:29.000 And just walk away.

01:33:30.000 And it gets it.

01:33:31.000 It's, like, immediately on.

01:33:33.000 It's, like, it hears that prompt.

01:33:35.000 It's on.

01:33:36.000 I'm saying the sentence naturalistically.

01:33:38.000 I'm not saying, hey, Siri, how many times have I gone to the bathroom today?

01:33:47.000 De-de-de.

01:33:50.000 You've gone...

01:33:51.000 I'm sorry.

01:33:52.000 I don't know the answer to that.

01:33:53.000 Whatever it is.

01:33:54.000 It's that long.

01:33:55.000 It's that long.

01:33:56.000 Why would I use... 0.93

01:33:57.000 There's no reason for me to use something that takes that fucking long to process. 0.87

01:34:03.000 It's faster to do voice dictation in a Google app. 0.97

01:34:07.000 Right.

01:34:08.000 But that's a combo.

01:34:10.000 Why is the voice better in the Google apps?

01:34:13.000 Is it just better than Apple?

01:34:14.000 It is better.

01:34:15.000 Their algorithms are better.

01:34:16.000 The artificial intelligence is a little bit better.

01:34:19.000 So like for note-keeping and stuff as well?

01:34:21.000 Yeah.

01:34:21.000 I mean, you can do a little bit more with Google Assistant than you can with Siri.

01:34:26.000 Also, I like the name.

01:34:27.000 I hate it when they name AI's thing, like Cortana from Microsoft. 0.98

01:34:32.000 I'm like, I don't fucking... 0.97

01:34:33.000 I don't want to... 0.98

01:34:35.000 Cortana.

01:34:35.000 I mean, I get it.

01:34:36.000 I like Cortana.

01:34:37.000 She's great.

01:34:38.000 I love Halo.

01:34:39.000 However...

01:34:40.000 I don't need a personality.

01:34:41.000 I want it to be a computer and I want to just do what I'd like it to do.

01:34:44.000 I don't need to hear like, okay, you know, the sunlight today is really beautiful, but I'd watch out, wear some sunscreen, unless I wanted that.

01:34:51.000 I want that option, but I also want it to be neutral.

01:34:54.000 So over time, I want an AI to learn what I dig and just kind of do that.

01:35:01.000 Yeah, there should be an option for whether or not you want it to behave like a corny human.

01:35:05.000 Yes.

01:35:05.000 I know.

01:35:06.000 Some people, I mean, I get it.

01:35:07.000 You want something like that.

01:35:08.000 You want, like, a little friend or something.

01:35:09.000 I get it.

01:35:10.000 I'd do that.

01:35:11.000 I'd have, like, a couple different versions of it.

01:35:14.000 You know, if I'm in work mode, I change it to, like, computer voice.

01:35:18.000 If I'm just, like, chilling, having a good time with friends, I change it to, hey, party person voice.

01:35:23.000 Hey, alright, that sounds like a great idea.

01:35:25.000 Hey, play some Miles Davis.

01:35:27.000 You know what?

01:35:27.000 I was just thinking of that.

01:35:28.000 Here's some Miles Davis.

01:35:29.000 Sounds like a great choice.

01:35:31.000 Yeah, totally.

01:35:31.000 That's great, man.

01:35:32.000 What else you got?

01:35:34.000 Yeah, maybe if you get John Lee Hooker's voice.

01:35:37.000 Yeah, that'd be great.

01:35:38.000 I could talk to John Lee Hooker everywhere you go.

01:35:40.000 Yeah, you get linguists and language experts and mimics to all sit down and create a program so it can actually do impersonations off of inputting audio so it could actually become that person.

01:35:53.000 Look what Jamie just pulled up.

01:35:56.000 Lyrebird.

01:35:57.000 Lyrebird.

01:35:58.000 Lyrebird.

01:35:58.000 Lyrebird allows you to create a digital voice that sounds like you with only one minute of audio.

01:36:03.000 That's awesome!

01:36:04.000 That's insane.

01:36:05.000 Remember that Photoshop for voice thing?

01:36:06.000 Yeah.

01:36:07.000 This is essentially that, and it's already available.

01:36:09.000 You can make your own.

01:36:10.000 You just gotta read some audio.

01:36:11.000 I love it.

01:36:11.000 I wonder how good it is.

01:36:12.000 It's very good.

01:36:13.000 Is it? 1.00

01:36:14.000 What if you, like, fuck with it, though? 1.00

01:36:15.000 That's what I want to use it for. 0.99

01:36:17.000 They say if you have 40 minutes of your audio, they basically have you.

01:36:23.000 I think it's Donald Trump's voice here.

01:36:25.000 Okay, here we go.

01:36:25.000 Oh my god, no way.

01:36:27.000 Love him.

01:36:27.000 The United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea.

01:36:35.000 That's...

01:36:35.000 That's fake?

01:36:36.000 You know that it's him.

01:36:38.000 You can tell it's synthesized, but you know that it's him.

01:36:41.000 Sounds amazing, though.

01:36:42.000 That's pretty great.

01:36:44.000 I will be meeting General Kelly, General Mattis, and other military leaders at the White House to discuss North Korea.

01:36:51.000 The middle section was nice.

01:36:52.000 The front and the back were not very good.

01:36:54.000 Well, I wonder if they're adding that reverberation, that weird...

01:36:58.000 If it thinks that's part of the audio, like the quality of the audio?

01:37:00.000 I wonder if they're doing that on purpose.

01:37:02.000 Because you're talking about the president.

01:37:04.000 Can you do an audio version of the president and pretend like that?

01:37:07.000 You might get in real trouble because that audio could be used.

01:37:11.000 If he never actually said that about not doing business with North Korea, if they didn't make an obviously fake version, see if you find another person.

01:37:19.000 It's pretty terrible.

01:37:20.000 I'm going to run into the restroom real quick. 0.63

01:37:21.000 Oh, go ahead.

01:37:24.000 Yeah, play me some Barack Obama.

01:37:26.000 I think they're taking tweets and putting that through it.

01:37:29.000 Oh, okay.

01:37:30.000 Let's hear it.

01:37:31.000 Thank you to all the first responders and people helping each other out.

01:37:34.000 That sounds terrible.

01:37:36.000 That's what we do as Americans.

01:37:37.000 But why does it sound so terrible?

01:37:38.000 The problem, too, on this, the way they have it set up, like if you and me did it today, they have specific sentences that we would need to read to hit the syllables, and I think they're taking speeches, and they probably tried to find the words as opposed to going directly into their computer program, which it was built for.

01:37:53.000 The only issue though is it doesn't sound good.

01:37:56.000 Those don't because they didn't actually have Obama reading specifically for them into their...

01:38:00.000 They just took speeches probably and found the words that matter.

01:38:03.000 Right, but even if they took speeches, it sounds so much shittier than the actual speech itself.

01:38:07.000 I'll try it again tonight. 0.95

01:38:09.000 My friend who showed it to me said he did it himself and got really surprised that he just typed a sentence in and was like, holy shit, that sounds like me. 0.64

01:38:17.000 They're going to be able to have people saying all kinds of crazy things.

01:38:20.000 This is not the Adobe Photoshop one.

01:38:22.000 This is, I think, a small company.

01:38:26.000 Adobe's got a better version.

01:38:26.000 They're probably going to make people have feuds with people by saying, you hear what he said about you, man?

01:38:31.000 You should listen to this. 1.00

01:38:31.000 Pretty fucked up. 1.00

01:38:32.000 And they're like, what? 1.00

01:38:33.000 Well, fuck him. 1.00

01:38:34.000 And then that guy says, fuck him, and says some crazy shit about him, and the next thing you know... 1.00

01:38:37.000 Do the reality TV show editing trick where it's just set off camera, and you show somebody's reaction to what they heard, and then you can send that to your friend and be like, look, they're fucking pissed at you, and then you start fights. 1.00

01:38:47.000 Really easily.

01:38:49.000 Easily.

01:38:50.000 That could be an app on your phone just like that app where you put a puppy dog nose on.

01:38:53.000 I mean, how is it any different?

01:38:56.000 As soon as someone gives the green light to put that on the Apple Store or the Google Play Store, someone's going to figure out a way to use that to make weird copies of people.

01:39:06.000 They do have ethics.

01:39:08.000 Oh, there's ethics? 1.00

01:39:09.000 Get the fuck out of here with your ethics. 1.00

01:39:11.000 Shut up. 1.00

01:39:13.000 Once you pee in the pool, you're not extracting that stuff out. 1.00

01:39:16.000 Stop.

01:39:17.000 They have samples they released at Public Awareness. 1.00

01:39:22.000 Shit. 1.00

01:39:38.000 Shut your hole. 1.00

01:39:39.000 Shut your hole. 1.00

01:39:40.000 That's like saying, I can hold my breath forever. 1.00

01:39:43.000 Shut up. 1.00

01:39:45.000 No, you can't. 1.00

01:39:46.000 You can't control that.

01:39:47.000 They have some wonky-ass website where they're trying to pretend like they can control the digital voice that gets printed using their app. 1.00

01:39:54.000 Like, the fuck you can. 1.00

01:39:57.000 Once you've made some technology like this, all your silly words that you're writing down, that doesn't mean anything. 0.99

01:40:03.000 Are you going to violate all the laws, the known laws of technological progression with your disclaimer and release? 1.00

01:40:11.000 Fuck off. 1.00

01:40:12.000 It's not really possible because they can tell through analysis. 1.00

01:40:17.000 I mean, that sound that you're hearing, that's part of the synthesis.

01:40:21.000 That's the best it can do right now.

01:40:24.000 For now, for sure it's going to get better, and for sure they're not going to be able to control it. 0.97

01:40:29.000 Once it's gotten to that stage, it's that crazy, I just think it's a matter of time before we have no idea what the fuck is real and what's not. 0.96

01:40:36.000 But at that point, why not just hire an Obama impersonator? 0.98

01:40:39.000 They're not as good.

01:40:40.000 Because an Obama impersonator, even the best Obama impersonator, is just a facsimile.

01:40:45.000 There's such a difference.

01:40:47.000 So you're saying that the computer has to, I mean, unless it's just audio being played back, it's still simulating it.

01:40:54.000 Oh, you mean like a physical?

01:40:55.000 Well, video, that'll be easy.

01:40:57.000 Video, they've already done it with video.

01:40:59.000 What do you want?

01:41:00.000 Yeah, Jimmy's screaming over there.

01:41:02.000 At the very bottom of the site, they had this little disclaimer agreement regarding biometrics, so I clicked it, and right here it's how we disclose biometric data.

01:41:09.000 We may also disclose biometric data in the following circumstances, law enforcement agencies, including a warrant, etc., etc., etc.

01:41:16.000 Wow.

01:41:16.000 Oh, wow.

01:41:17.000 So you basically...

01:41:18.000 This is all CIA PSYOPs, man!

01:41:21.000 Yeah, man. 1.00

01:41:22.000 The fucking same people keeping the man... 1.00

01:41:26.000 With his boot heel at your neck. 1.00

01:41:28.000 Keeping the man the man. 1.00

01:41:29.000 They want you to play with a fucking app, man. 1.00

01:41:31.000 First they got their fingerprints, man. 1.00

01:41:33.000 They got your fingerprints off your phone, man.

01:41:35.000 Then face data.

01:41:36.000 Face data.

01:41:37.000 They're collecting DNA from your screens when you turn your phone in.

01:41:41.000 All the data's being stored on a third-party server.

01:41:44.000 I mean, it says it right there. 1.00

01:41:45.000 Oh, we're fucked. 1.00

01:41:46.000 All that data's gonna get scooped up by the Russians. 1.00

01:41:49.000 The Russians are gonna have all these people talking shit. 1.00

01:41:52.000 They're gonna have heads of industry talking shit about Donald Trump, threatening to kill him. 1.00

01:41:56.000 Donald Trump's gonna get crazy paranoid because he doesn't read. 1.00

01:41:59.000 And next thing you know, there's a fucking nuclear war going on in the United States. 0.99

01:42:04.000 Donald Trump is bombing Bill Gates. 0.99

01:42:07.000 Oh my god. 0.99

01:42:07.000 Mark Zuckerberg is to fucking hire Mossad to protect him in his mansion because he feels that Donald Trump's trying to assassinate him because he wants to be president. 0.99

01:42:16.000 Oh my god. 0.99

01:42:18.000 I'd vote for Zuckerberg.

01:42:20.000 I don't know, man.

01:42:21.000 Dude made Facebook.

01:42:22.000 He wins.

01:42:23.000 I don't know.

01:42:24.000 He didn't even make it, apparently.

01:42:25.000 I didn't watch that movie where they say he stole it.

01:42:26.000 No, that's what I'm saying.

01:42:27.000 You might have stole Facebook.

01:42:27.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:42:28.000 You think he stole Facebook?

01:42:29.000 I think he stole it a little, but not so much as someone who might be in a band and they break up and they make a song that was kind of based on some riffs that someone was doing.

01:42:39.000 It's like, well, it's hard.

01:42:41.000 Did he steal it a little like Chris Rock's ex-wife steals money from him?

01:42:45.000 How did she do that? 1.00

01:42:46.000 By just going to court and stealing it.

01:42:48.000 Oh my god, just publicly.

01:42:50.000 Well, you know what they do when you get divorced. 1.00

01:42:52.000 They're like, I want it all, you motherfucker! 1.00

01:42:53.000 Oh, I don't know. 1.00

01:42:54.000 They're stealing your money.

01:42:54.000 I heard.

01:42:56.000 Half of Chris's act.

01:42:57.000 Yeah, I mean, Eddie, okay.

01:42:59.000 Yeah, Eddie Murphy would definitely talk about that a lot.

01:43:02.000 Oh, yeah.

01:43:02.000 Well, Eddie Murphy used to talk about it with Johnny Carson, remember?

01:43:04.000 Oh, yeah. 0.72

01:43:04.000 Because Johnny Carson had to give up, like, hundreds of millions of dollars to some chick he was briefly having sex with and marrying. 0.72

01:43:10.000 Whoa. 0.88

01:43:11.000 Whoa.

01:43:12.000 Whoa.

01:43:13.000 Heavy.

01:43:13.000 I mean, not briefly, but, you know, not his entire life.

01:43:17.000 Married to her, whatever.

01:43:18.000 Not equaling that. 1.00

01:43:19.000 Shouldn't tell a fucking single joke. 0.99

01:43:21.000 It wasn't an even deal. 0.99

01:43:23.000 But that's stealing, right?

01:43:24.000 That's stealing.

01:43:25.000 That's some stealing, too.

01:43:26.000 So did he steal in that way?

01:43:27.000 Johnny Carson's wife stole?

01:43:28.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:43:30.000 I think that he just had an idea of what to do with it.

01:43:34.000 But I don't think that he's necessarily...

01:43:37.000 I mean, I can be proven wrong at any moment, but I don't think he's necessarily an innovator in any way.

01:43:41.000 I think he refined an idea that was pretty obvious.

01:43:46.000 Right.

01:43:46.000 MySpace had already existed, right?

01:43:48.000 Yeah.

01:43:48.000 Friendster.

01:43:49.000 Yeah.

01:43:49.000 Who the fuck used Friendster?

01:43:51.000 I did. 0.99

01:43:51.000 Jamie was one of the top dogs. 0.99

01:43:53.000 It was awesome.

01:43:53.000 I love Friendster.

01:43:54.000 Jamie had a Friendster t-shirt he wore everywhere.

01:43:56.000 Go to Friendster now.

01:43:57.000 It's so sad.

01:43:58.000 It's the saddest.

01:43:58.000 Is it still there?

01:43:59.000 Yeah, it's still there, but it's owned by someone else.

01:44:01.000 Okay, is MySpace still there?

01:44:01.000 MySpace still exists as well.

01:44:03.000 I'm thinking of going back to MySpace.

01:44:05.000 Man, I don't know.

01:44:06.000 There's got to be something else.

01:44:07.000 I think I could bring it back.

01:44:09.000 I think you could, but why would you want to?

01:44:12.000 Friendster living the game.

01:44:13.000 I'm kidding.

01:44:14.000 Friendster living the game.

01:44:15.000 Friendster is taking a break.

01:44:17.000 The redesigned Friendster came about through enduring passion to make a difference over the years.

01:44:21.000 What?

01:44:22.000 Make a difference.

01:44:23.000 Make a difference in your bank account, ho. 1.00

01:44:26.000 Over the years, we have built a vibrant community and received valuable support and encouragement.

01:44:31.000 However, due to the evolving landscape in our challenging industry, the online gaming community did not engage as much as we had hoped for.

01:44:42.000 Profound development in the gaming industry has also led us to rethink our strategic priorities.

01:44:49.000 We have thus made the decision to take a break and pause our services effective June 14, 2015. That's not a break, kids.

01:44:57.000 You quit. 1.00

01:44:58.000 That's two years ago, you fucks. 1.00

01:44:59.000 Yeah, it's a quit. 0.99

01:45:01.000 That's a quit.

01:45:01.000 That's a hard quit.

01:45:02.000 Two years in, you gotta say, like, if you and your girlfriend are taking a break, it's been two years, you're not taking a break anymore.

01:45:09.000 No.

01:45:09.000 Right?

01:45:10.000 You guys haven't seen each other in two years?

01:45:11.000 Yeah.

01:45:12.000 It's over!

01:45:13.000 I think that's pretty safe.

01:45:14.000 It's over, friendster.

01:45:15.000 And then for the internet, I mean, multiply that times then.

01:45:17.000 Maybe someone's going to come out with a new one.

01:45:19.000 A virtual reality or an augmented reality based one.

01:45:22.000 Well, Altspace almost happened like that.

01:45:24.000 What is that?

01:45:24.000 I was working with them a lot.

01:45:25.000 They were doing stand-up comedy.

01:45:27.000 It's basically like a Facebook of VR. So social VR. And that was really fun.

01:45:34.000 And they really helped out amazingly well.

01:45:36.000 They were like the coolest.

01:45:37.000 They were really cool.

01:45:38.000 Justin Roiland and I hung out one night.

01:45:40.000 We were together in a graveyard with like 500 of their fans. 0.98

01:45:43.000 And we just fucked around for an hour and 40 minutes. 0.99

01:45:46.000 Wow. 0.95

01:45:46.000 He was at his house with a small team of people making sure he was all good, and he had a motion capture suit, or a motion sensor suit. 0.95

01:45:55.000 And yeah, there it is.

01:45:56.000 That's me doing stand-up, so that's me.

01:45:58.000 I'm moving that character.

01:46:00.000 That's crazy.

01:46:01.000 Yeah, in my living room.

01:46:03.000 Wow.

01:46:04.000 Just like, hey guys.

01:46:05.000 I mean, that easily could take the place of touring.

01:46:08.000 If they had some place where you could interface and you could be on stage in front.

01:46:13.000 How about this?

01:46:14.000 The people go to a place.

01:46:16.000 The people actually go to a theater.

01:46:19.000 And you just get live beamed into the theater.

01:46:22.000 We don't have to be there.

01:46:23.000 Well, they did that with some concerts, right?

01:46:24.000 Like a live broadcast, like simulcast in theaters.

01:46:28.000 Yeah, like Rolling Stones or something like that.

01:46:30.000 But that's different than a hologram.

01:46:32.000 No, no.

01:46:32.000 That's different than immersive VR. They did that, too.

01:46:35.000 They had to do it with rapper Chief Keefe.

01:46:37.000 He was going to do an event, and they were saying he couldn't go because there's going to be riots and whatnot.

01:46:41.000 So what they agreed to do was have him be a hologram.

01:46:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:46:45.000 They did that curved screen projection technology.

01:46:47.000 There was still riots?

01:46:47.000 There's still a problem with it, yeah.

01:46:49.000 Because people don't like him?

01:46:50.000 No, just he incites the crowds, I guess.

01:46:54.000 I don't know.

01:46:55.000 It's very lit when he performs. 0.89

01:46:57.000 He's a crazy fellow, right? 0.88

01:46:59.000 He's a wild one, that Chief Keef. 0.98

01:47:02.000 I've seen him on the Instagram. 0.98

01:47:04.000 Yeah, he's a young, crazy rapper. 0.95

01:47:07.000 Gotcha. 0.99

01:47:08.000 Yeah, he's one of the very aggressively crazy ones. 0.61

01:47:14.000 So they had him as a hologram on stage.

01:47:16.000 Yeah, so there's real people at this show.

01:47:18.000 Let me hear this.

01:47:18.000 He's just doing this.

01:47:26.000 Whoa, this is so strange.

01:47:28.000 Yeah, they've been doing it in Japan for a while.

01:47:31.000 They have like pop stars, artificial intelligence.

01:47:37.000 It seems like it has to stand in one place.

01:47:39.000 Yeah, I think the hologram thing kind of...

01:47:41.000 Sort of like the Will.i.am situation.

01:47:43.000 Remember, you can't walk around the room, but he can talk to someone.

01:47:47.000 Wow.

01:47:48.000 That's so weird.

01:47:49.000 The Japanese technology, they can walk, but it's like an obvious, curved, huge screen.

01:47:55.000 Can you imagine if you went somewhere to watch a hologram?

01:47:58.000 You'd be so angry at the person that isn't there.

01:48:00.000 Yeah.

01:48:01.000 Why can't you be there?

01:48:03.000 I know.

01:48:03.000 You know?

01:48:04.000 Why do you have to...

01:48:04.000 Well, it would be weird to go somewhere publicly to watch a hologram.

01:48:08.000 I feel like it's the future, though.

01:48:09.000 Unless it's someone who doesn't live anymore.

01:48:11.000 Right.

01:48:11.000 Like Tupac.

01:48:12.000 Like when they did...

01:48:13.000 They made Tupac way more jacked than he really is.

01:48:15.000 Did you notice that?

01:48:16.000 No.

01:48:17.000 Yeah.

01:48:17.000 When they did the Tupac one, they had him like a CrossFit Tupac.

01:48:21.000 Tupac was in insane shape.

01:48:23.000 He really looked like Floyd Mayweather.

01:48:25.000 Yeah, because he was a pretty wiry.

01:48:27.000 Yeah, look at him.

01:48:28.000 Look at him.

01:48:29.000 Oh, no.

01:48:30.000 Yeah, come on, dude.

01:48:32.000 No.

01:48:32.000 He's super jack Tupac.

01:48:35.000 That's a Tupac that's doing jujitsu five times a week, right? 0.96

01:48:38.000 That Tupac's got a six-pack.

01:48:41.000 He's got big muscles.

01:48:43.000 Tupac was never that big.

01:48:44.000 Is that video footage?

01:48:45.000 Yeah.

01:48:45.000 Yeah, this is from Coachella.

01:48:47.000 Oh, but they made it holographic.

01:48:48.000 It looks so fake.

01:48:49.000 Oh, no, but I mean the footage.

01:48:50.000 Or did they generate it?

01:48:52.000 Oh, they generate it.

01:48:53.000 This is all hologram.

01:48:54.000 The performance?

01:48:54.000 Yeah, this is all CGI. It's a body double.

01:48:56.000 Was it a body double?

01:48:57.000 I'm pretty sure.

01:48:58.000 Oh, well, that's part of the problem.

01:48:59.000 They used some body double who's jacked. 0.99

01:49:01.000 They should have told that dude he's got to lay off the weights for a couple years if you want to play Tupac.

01:49:05.000 Yeah.

01:49:06.000 Because I don't think they would have been able to track his recorded performance in the 90s.

01:49:10.000 Well, this guy who they used as a body double, they got overzealous because he's way too big.

01:49:14.000 I mean, he's like 20 pounds heavier, right?

01:49:17.000 I don't know.

01:49:18.000 Am I exaggerating?

01:49:19.000 Look how much thicker he is.

01:49:19.000 He was wiry.

01:49:20.000 He was wiry.

01:49:21.000 Yeah, but this guy's not wiry. 0.78

01:49:22.000 This guy's jacked. 0.96

01:49:23.000 Yeah, he's a little jacked. 0.91

01:49:24.000 This guy looks like an MMA fighter.

01:49:25.000 Yeah.

01:49:25.000 He's built like Tyron Woodley almost.

01:49:29.000 They have a side-by-side?

01:49:30.000 He's Captain Jack.

01:49:33.000 He's built like George St. Pierre.

01:49:35.000 That's a good comparison. 0.99

01:49:37.000 Not quite Tyron Woodley levels, but pretty fucking jacked. 0.97

01:49:41.000 You got a side-by-side? 0.98

01:49:43.000 They don't have one?

01:49:44.000 Between the real Tupac and the fake Tupac?

01:49:46.000 I just came up and said it wasn't actually a hologram, and I'm trying to see what they're saying, what that means.

01:49:51.000 Well, it's CGI generated then?

01:49:53.000 Special Effects Studio made it, yes.

01:49:55.000 Expensive CGI. Yeah, see, that's what I was saying.

01:49:58.000 So maybe they used a body double to track the movements, and then they got overzealous when they went to give him six packs and pecs and delts.

01:50:04.000 Just like they made the new Star Wars figurines are all jacked.

01:50:08.000 Are they?

01:50:09.000 They're all super muscular. 1.00

01:50:10.000 Yeah, I was like, what the fuck are you doing? 1.00

01:50:11.000 Like Luke Skywalker's jacked? 1.00

01:50:12.000 Yeah.

01:50:12.000 Really?

01:50:13.000 It was like late 90s Star Wars or something like that.

01:50:16.000 Hmm.

01:50:18.000 Hmm.

01:50:18.000 Yeah.

01:50:19.000 It's like superhero bullshit. 1.00

01:50:21.000 But people wanted superhero bullshit back then. 0.99

01:50:24.000 Like, if you tried to put out a figurine of someone who wasn't jacked, people were used to superhero figurines. 0.98

01:50:29.000 I know. 0.99

01:50:30.000 It's just so dumb, though. 0.97

01:50:31.000 It's like, I want something that looks like the thing. 0.99

01:50:33.000 I don't want to fucking cheat. 0.81

01:50:35.000 Because otherwise it looks cheap. 0.99

01:50:36.000 It looks lazy.

01:50:37.000 It's just lazy.

01:50:39.000 There's what?

01:50:43.000 Yeah, but that's not really...

01:50:44.000 There's gotta be one where he doesn't have his shirt.

01:50:45.000 He's just pulling up his shirt to show the Thug Life tattoo.

01:50:48.000 Yeah, you gotta get the whole...

01:50:49.000 Yeah.

01:50:50.000 That guy's way more jacked.

01:50:52.000 Trust me. 0.66

01:50:52.000 Oh, there you go. 0.66

01:50:53.000 That's a picture of him right there.

01:50:54.000 Yeah, see?

01:50:55.000 I mean, come on. 0.98

01:50:56.000 Just get the fuck out of here. 0.99

01:50:57.000 Yeah, he's smaller. 1.00

01:50:58.000 Way smaller.

01:50:58.000 He looks like a lightweight boxer.

01:51:00.000 Yeah.

01:51:01.000 Yeah, that's what he looks like.

01:51:02.000 I mean, he's in shape, for sure.

01:51:04.000 Yeah, he's definitely in shape.

01:51:05.000 He's not fat, but look at that.

01:51:06.000 But he's not fat.

01:51:06.000 I mean, come on.

01:51:07.000 That guy's super duper jacked.

01:51:10.000 Yeah, I don't know where they got those proportions from. 1.00

01:51:13.000 If you're gonna be that jacked, like, you really have to not eat anything that's bullshit. 0.99

01:51:18.000 Oh, I know. 1.00

01:51:19.000 Like, you can't be fucking around at all. 0.99

01:51:20.000 Not even slightly. 0.98

01:51:21.000 No, it's just, like, all, like, straight protein, super clean.

01:51:26.000 Like, just broccoli, chicken breast, egg whites.

01:51:28.000 No beers.

01:51:29.000 No, no, not one beer at all.

01:51:31.000 No.

01:51:31.000 And, like, water, no salt.

01:51:34.000 No salt.

01:51:35.000 No salts and in fact one day you'll probably fast or you'll like over water like by gallons and gallon gallon then not drink for two days. 1.00

01:51:43.000 Probably take diuretics before you do the shit. 0.99

01:51:45.000 If they made one of you, would you let them add a little bit of extra water weight or would you tell them to fucking slim you down? 1.00

01:51:51.000 No, I'd say leave me the way I am. 0.97

01:51:52.000 They already did.

01:51:53.000 I'm in that EA video game.

01:51:55.000 Like a real life hologram.

01:51:56.000 Really?

01:51:57.000 Yeah.

01:51:57.000 They had that UFC fight in real life and we got to watch it.

01:52:00.000 I would say, leave me the way the fuck I am, man. 0.99

01:52:03.000 Don't make me look more muscular than I really am. 1.00

01:52:05.000 It's more immersive.

01:52:06.000 Yeah, in the EA video game, that's my actual body. 0.99

01:52:08.000 They took fucking hundreds of pictures. 0.98

01:52:10.000 They have you stand. 1.00

01:52:11.000 They rotate around you with a camera.

01:52:14.000 They have this thing that spins around you and takes photos of you from all these different precise angles.

01:52:19.000 You have to do all these different things with your body.

01:52:21.000 You have to do things with your arms.

01:52:22.000 You have to stand with your hands up.

01:52:24.000 You have to extend your fists.

01:52:25.000 Yeah, they're doing a combination volumetric capture and optical capture.

01:52:30.000 That's what I actually look like.

01:52:30.000 And so they skin you.

01:52:32.000 There you go.

01:52:33.000 They basically skin the optical information stitched with a little bit of CG. Yeah.

01:52:40.000 That's great.

01:52:41.000 See, that looks like a person.

01:52:43.000 That looks like a real person.

01:52:44.000 That's what a person looks like.

01:52:46.000 I mean, your face does look a little uncanny valley.

01:52:49.000 Yeah.

01:52:49.000 But you're just like, video game character.

01:52:52.000 They're about five years away from that not existing anymore, right? 0.96

01:52:55.000 Five years away from just freaking you the fuck out with reality. 0.91

01:52:58.000 Yeah. 0.64

01:52:58.000 Like, Avatar did a great job. 0.64

01:53:00.000 Yeah.

01:53:00.000 That CG was like, I mean, half of it was the actor's face.

01:53:03.000 Right.

01:53:04.000 But the rest of it, I mean, it looked very natural.

01:53:07.000 What's really cool is that they, for a movie like Avatar, is that they can have something that's not a real thing.

01:53:12.000 Like, what's really challenging is when you do a CGI of a real thing, like a wolf, or Game of Thrones does it with wolves, and they have to be real careful how they shoot it.

01:53:22.000 Like, I Am Legend with Will Smith, they did it with lions, and it was kind of clunky.

01:53:26.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:53:27.000 But with the zombies in I Am Legend, they work perfect, because they're this thing that's not a real thing.

01:53:31.000 Yeah, it's a fantasy creature.

01:53:33.000 Yeah, you don't have a point of reference.

01:53:35.000 What is this, Jamie?

01:53:35.000 This is from Logan that They digitally did his face in almost all these action scenes, because I don't know whether he didn't do it or not, but this little piece just came out.

01:53:44.000 I don't know if it just came out this week.

01:53:45.000 I just saw it the other day.

01:53:47.000 It's a really cool little three-minute piece about the digital double, is what it's called, of Logan.

01:53:51.000 If somebody wants to watch that, I'll try to put up there.

01:53:53.000 Oh, is that the stunt guy?

01:53:54.000 Yeah, this is the stunt guy, and then they kind of show the breakdown.

01:53:57.000 That was the actual clip, and they'll show you the breakdown now of how they added each little piece to it to make what you saw from...

01:54:04.000 You know, all the little camera angles.

01:54:06.000 This is incredible.

01:54:08.000 It's really cool.

01:54:10.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:54:11.000 So the dude just got a...

01:54:12.000 God, that's insane.

01:54:15.000 And then this thing later here in a second will show you how all the cameras that they used to get his actual face.

01:54:22.000 So this was CGI? Yeah.

01:54:24.000 What?

01:54:25.000 That scene.

01:54:26.000 That whole scene was CGI. I didn't question it at all.

01:54:27.000 Most of these scenes were CGI. I did not question any of that shit, man. 1.00

01:54:31.000 That's incredible. 1.00

01:54:34.000 That's incredible.

01:54:35.000 Look at that. 0.97

01:54:35.000 But you know what's fucked up? 0.97

01:54:37.000 Even though it's CGI, they still made it as obvious as a real fight scene with actors and a stuntman. 0.93

01:54:45.000 Yeah, the movement is real.

01:54:47.000 But it looks very obvious that it's fake, is what I'm saying.

01:54:50.000 Oh, now it does?

01:54:51.000 Yeah, to me.

01:54:51.000 But in the movie, I didn't think of anything.

01:54:53.000 No, no, no, that's not what I mean.

01:54:54.000 I mean, it looks very obvious that it's a fake fight.

01:54:57.000 Oh, it looks choreographed.

01:54:58.000 Yeah, because you can't actually have the guy punch the guy. 0.98

01:55:02.000 You can't actually have the guy shoot him first, you know, and he absorbs the bullet and keeps going and cuts the guy's head off with his claws.

01:55:10.000 But they could have done something along those lines.

01:55:14.000 They choreographed it like they would choreograph a fight scene in a Six Million Dollar Man episode.

01:55:20.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

01:55:20.000 Like, oh, I'm gonna punch you. 0.99

01:55:22.000 Oh, you stabbed me first. 1.00

01:55:23.000 Oh, I'm gonna shoot you. 1.00

01:55:24.000 Oh, you cut me first. 1.00

01:55:25.000 Right, right, right, right.

01:55:26.000 Well, that's my thing with tactical scenes and fight scenes.

01:55:31.000 For me, you just have to balance the believability level.

01:55:37.000 So if it's kind of cartoony acts, like violence or whatever, then make sure that the physics flow together really well.

01:55:44.000 Like Captain America Winter Soldier, one of my favorite of the Marvel movies.

01:55:50.000 Just the fight scenes were incredible.

01:55:52.000 They were really, really well done.

01:55:53.000 Pretty badass.

01:55:54.000 Pretty badass. 0.99

01:55:55.000 Like when fucking Winter Soldier gets hit and he like slides backwards. 0.98

01:55:58.000 You know, there's always that thing where a guy gets hit and he slides backwards and the pavement gets torn up and he's like holding his stance. 0.97

01:56:04.000 But the physics on it looked...

01:56:06.000 Really good.

01:56:07.000 So I was like, oh, that's great.

01:56:09.000 And they were just paying attention to all these little subtle physics details.

01:56:12.000 And that's what makes me appreciate the fighting.

01:56:15.000 Or like seeing Gina Carano fight, like fake fight in movies. 1.00

01:56:19.000 She knows how to take a hit. 1.00

01:56:20.000 So when she gets hit, she knows what it looks like when you get hit.

01:56:25.000 But a certain way or a certain angle or whatever.

01:56:28.000 And not saying that she's like, the best, best, but just as an example of somebody who actually does make contact or has had experience in that.

01:56:35.000 The reactions are a little bit more believable.

01:56:38.000 And also they're probably more willing to let people get closer.

01:56:41.000 I'm sure. 0.96

01:56:42.000 And also you don't feel like you're being treated like a fool. 0.99

01:56:45.000 Exactly. 0.98

01:56:46.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:56:47.000 Because otherwise it's just like...

01:56:50.000 You see the people waiting for the next hit.

01:56:52.000 Like when you see those fight scenes where people are standing around in a circle, and one guy goes in, and everyone else is waiting?

01:56:58.000 That would not work like that, man.

01:57:00.000 No.

01:57:01.000 Everybody's just gonna wait.

01:57:02.000 Well, that's the rules.

01:57:03.000 It's just one guy at a time.

01:57:05.000 Okay, now you try it, Tony.

01:57:07.000 God, he's really good.

01:57:09.000 Okay, Walter?

01:57:11.000 Yeah, it has to be some...

01:57:12.000 That's one of the things that I found almost eerily impressive about John Wick.

01:57:18.000 John Wick is preposterous, yet believable at the same time.

01:57:21.000 See, that's what I'm saying. 1.00

01:57:22.000 They balance that shit. 1.00

01:57:23.000 They figured it out. 1.00

01:57:24.000 Because you see it as choreography, but it's so fucking tactically and imaginatively thought out and stylistically gorgeous. 0.74

01:57:34.000 All the ingredients go together. 0.97

01:57:36.000 And you see in that footage of him running three-gun training and he's fucking rocking through those courses, for real. 0.92

01:57:42.000 He's using live rounds. 1.00

01:57:44.000 And so when I see that movie, I'm like, oh shit, these guys know what the fuck they're doing. 1.00

01:57:49.000 They're not fucking around. 1.00

01:57:50.000 They're like using special forces guys for training. 0.98

01:57:53.000 They're using a specialized team of martial artists to create a customized version of martial arts just for him.

01:58:00.000 My friend Higan Machado did a lot of the jujitsu choreography for it.

01:58:05.000 That's who I was watching.

01:58:06.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:58:06.000 And I love their whole fucking take on it and their approach. 0.99

01:58:09.000 It's artistry. 0.99

01:58:10.000 Yes.

01:58:10.000 It's like, that's what it is.

01:58:12.000 There was no, like, everything that he did would work.

01:58:14.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:58:15.000 There was no jump up and kick two dudes in the head at the same time and shoot through a window and shoot a guy a mile away in the head. 0.72

01:58:20.000 Yeah.

01:58:20.000 There's none of that.

01:58:21.000 No, no, no.

01:58:22.000 It's like, if you trained really well, and that situation presented itself the way that it did, you could do that.

01:58:29.000 It's possible.

01:58:31.000 But it was also very cartoony, too.

01:58:33.000 Totally, yeah.

01:58:34.000 That's what I was so great about it.

01:58:35.000 So it's like, it's this perfect, because the whole world was heightened.

01:58:38.000 You know, like the whole hotel thing and assassins having like, you know, creeds and the courts. 0.76

01:58:43.000 So it's already in that world.

01:58:44.000 So you just need to create efficiency.

01:58:47.000 You know, all it is is just like lethal efficiency with a kiss of artistry.

01:58:53.000 And there's a uniformity in John Wick's personality that is so, so samurai that you believe that he could do all this and not be affected by killing all these people.

01:59:02.000 Yeah, I know.

01:59:04.000 Well, it's like all the people he's killing are players.

01:59:07.000 Yeah.

01:59:07.000 They're all players in the game.

01:59:08.000 And they deserve it. 0.93

01:59:09.000 They killed his dog. 1.00

01:59:10.000 Yeah, they killed his dog.

01:59:11.000 And anybody who gets in the way, not that it's their fault, but if they decide to take him on, then he just has to...

01:59:18.000 It's just professional.

01:59:19.000 Yeah.

01:59:19.000 He's a professional.

01:59:20.000 Even in his revenge, he's professional.

01:59:21.000 Well, except for the part where he shoots the dude in the hotel and gets excommunicated.

01:59:25.000 But other than that, I mean, I just love that character so much.

01:59:30.000 I love the stunt driving.

01:59:31.000 And that's not CG. That's him.

01:59:32.000 That's a 51-year-old man. 1.00

01:59:35.000 Fucking destroying it. 1.00

01:59:36.000 And I'm like, you know what? 0.98

01:59:38.000 If anything, even if you like that type of stuff, or if you don't like that stuff, just watch a scene, look at the artistry of the choreography, think about how old he is now, Hardy Train, and then try to have someone who's sitting on a couch going, I can't lose, I can't lose 30 pounds.

01:59:53.000 Right.

01:59:55.000 Without...

01:59:55.000 I mean, I'm talking about someone who has no help.

01:59:57.000 It's just them alone just going, I can't do...

01:59:59.000 It's like, man, anything is possible.

02:00:02.000 Anything is possible. 1.00

02:00:03.000 You just have to fucking do that shit. 1.00

02:00:06.000 Yeah, well, I think that movie is like... 1.00

02:00:08.000 It's great.

02:00:09.000 It's like a masterpiece of that genre.

02:00:12.000 Yes.

02:00:12.000 There's a lot of those John Woo-style movies that are fun and everything like that.

02:00:17.000 Well, I think what John Wick movies did is they took that...

02:00:20.000 They boiled down the story to, like, there's no... 1.00

02:00:24.000 There's no ambiguity as to whether or not there's bad people and good people, whether or not he should kill all these fucking people. 1.00

02:00:29.000 He just absolutely should kill them all, and he's absolutely going to, and it's awesome. 1.00

02:00:33.000 Yeah, and it's okay, because it's a game. 1.00

02:00:35.000 That's the whole thing about it.

02:00:37.000 That's what's so brilliant about it.

02:00:38.000 It's a game, but it allows stuntmen, tactical expert forward movie making.

02:00:45.000 Yeah.

02:00:45.000 Because it's really, that's what it is.

02:00:46.000 It's mostly that.

02:00:47.000 The story kind of takes you along in an interesting, but it's a pretty narrow pathway.

02:00:52.000 It's like the apocalypse now of, like, shoot-em-up.

02:00:56.000 Of tactical thrillers or tactical whatever you call them.

02:00:59.000 Whatever you would call those.

02:01:00.000 It's like the masterpiece of those.

02:01:02.000 You know, if you get a chance, check out this guy.

02:01:04.000 Have you ever seen Strike Back?

02:01:05.000 No.

02:01:06.000 That's a Cinemax show.

02:01:07.000 It's a show?

02:01:08.000 Yeah, it's a series.

02:01:09.000 I didn't even know Cinemax was real anymore.

02:01:11.000 I know.

02:01:11.000 There's too many networks.

02:01:12.000 I know.

02:01:13.000 Skinemax.

02:01:13.000 People start...

02:01:14.000 I remember that.

02:01:15.000 Back in the day, they'd have those softcore B porn movies. 0.99

02:01:19.000 You'd be like, holy shit. 0.99

02:01:20.000 You'd see a titty every now and then. 0.99

02:01:21.000 This is happening.

02:01:21.000 This is crazy.

02:01:22.000 They would lie down on the bed and the lady's leg, her naked leg would drape around the man's body so you knew what was going on. 0.92

02:01:27.000 You're like, I can't believe this.

02:01:29.000 I know.

02:01:29.000 But then the physics would trick you up.

02:01:31.000 You're like, okay, the way they're lying, his dick's nowhere near her. 0.99

02:01:34.000 Doesn't look right. 0.99

02:01:34.000 How's he having sex with her? 0.99

02:01:35.000 He's having sex with the cushion in front of her vagina. 1.00

02:01:38.000 There's no way he's reaching her actual vagina. 1.00

02:01:41.000 He's way too low. 0.99

02:01:41.000 What is he doing? 0.99

02:01:43.000 You know?

02:01:44.000 It's like the man was in the wrong spot.

02:01:47.000 That's so crazy.

02:01:48.000 And he's like, ugh.

02:01:49.000 And she's like, you're doing it wrong.

02:01:51.000 And the ADR is off.

02:01:52.000 Just like, ugh.

02:01:53.000 Yeah, how does that?

02:01:57.000 Does it feel good?

02:01:58.000 Amazing.

02:01:58.000 Oh, that's great.

02:02:01.000 Yeah, like just obviously someone in a studio adding sound later.

02:02:05.000 There was whole genres about those.

02:02:07.000 There was series of movies.

02:02:09.000 Emmanuel.

02:02:09.000 Do you remember those?

02:02:11.000 Emmanuel goes to Paris.

02:02:13.000 Emmanuel goes to Italy.

02:02:15.000 They were all like... 0.97

02:02:16.000 Like Daniel Steele porn. 0.95

02:02:17.000 No, because Daniel Steele, like, it would be more for the ladies. 0.83

02:02:22.000 Oh, you're right, you're right.

02:02:24.000 I got you. 0.99

02:02:24.000 She was like this exotic traveling lady who would fuck these dudes in hotels and these movies. 0.99

02:02:32.000 They were so corny. 1.00

02:02:33.000 Oh, that's right.

02:02:34.000 But you would be so excited.

02:02:35.000 But it was softcore? 0.99

02:02:36.000 Yeah, when I was like 16 and shit. 0.99

02:02:38.000 Amazing. 0.96

02:02:38.000 We, you know, first got cable. 0.96

02:02:39.000 You know, like, my parents were asleep.

02:02:41.000 Remember to sleep up there?

02:02:42.000 Okay, good.

02:02:43.000 Yeah.

02:02:43.000 Tune into Showtime or Cinemax.

02:02:45.000 Totally.

02:02:45.000 Emmanuel 4, Emmanuel 3. That's right.

02:02:49.000 There's a series of those.

02:02:49.000 I do remember those.

02:02:50.000 Oh my God. 1.00

02:02:51.000 Yeah, I was into that shit. 1.00

02:02:52.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:02:53.000 Everybody was. 0.99

02:02:54.000 When you're a little kid, you're like, I'm going to see some titty. 0.96

02:02:56.000 I can't believe I'm going to see a naked lady. 1.00

02:02:59.000 And like some more shit. 1.00

02:03:00.000 Yeah, you're like, I'm about to see some real adult stuff. 1.00

02:03:03.000 Real shit. 1.00

02:03:04.000 As long as you don't see genitals. 1.00

02:03:06.000 We do not tolerate genitals. 1.00

02:03:08.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:03:08.000 I mean, except for breasts. 0.98

02:03:09.000 Yeah, breasts are okay. 1.00

02:03:11.000 Yeah, but that's not a genital. 0.98

02:03:12.000 Yeah, you're right.

02:03:12.000 A man can have one and just walk around in public, like Ari Shaffir does.

02:03:16.000 Oh, yeah.

02:03:16.000 That's true.

02:03:17.000 Like, who's Ari Shaffir? 0.71

02:03:19.000 You don't know Ari Shavir?

02:03:20.000 Stand-up comedian?

02:03:21.000 Good friend of mine.

02:03:21.000 Thinks he's more famous than he is, obviously.

02:03:23.000 What is this?

02:03:23.000 Oh, is this Emmanuel?

02:03:25.000 The Cobra?

02:03:26.000 She's so hot. 0.97

02:03:27.000 Emmanuel, too.

02:03:27.000 Oh, no, she was hot.

02:03:28.000 She's getting acupuncture?

02:03:30.000 She's beautiful.

02:03:30.000 Oh, she's getting acupuncture to be more hot.

02:03:33.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:03:33.000 She's really beautiful.

02:03:34.000 She's undeniable.

02:03:35.000 Like, that 80s beauty.

02:03:37.000 Yeah, look at that guy.

02:03:38.000 I love that severe 80s beauty.

02:03:40.000 It's just great. 1.00

02:03:40.000 She's gonna fuck the pool guy? 1.00

02:03:41.000 Please fuck the pool guy. 1.00

02:03:43.000 Why does she have a Cobra in the lower left corner of the screen? 1.00

02:03:45.000 Because it's probably someone's channel that they're reposting.

02:03:49.000 Dude, I remember these movies.

02:03:50.000 What is that?

02:03:51.000 She's looking out the window. 1.00

02:03:52.000 Maybe there's some dick in that building. 1.00

02:03:54.000 That's so crazy. 1.00

02:03:55.000 Maybe I should go to that building.

02:03:56.000 This building is tired.

02:03:57.000 Look, she's like pretending to be a geisha. 1.00

02:04:00.000 Cultural appropriation.

02:04:01.000 Yeah, totally.

02:04:02.000 No, no, that's her.

02:04:02.000 No, that is.

02:04:03.000 That is someone performing a ritualistic dance of some sort.

02:04:06.000 Look at that guy.

02:04:07.000 I had to like try to figure out what was going on there.

02:04:10.000 She's mounting him.

02:04:12.000 Mounting him and kissing his face. 0.83

02:04:13.000 That's crazy. 0.89

02:04:14.000 Oh, see? 0.97

02:04:15.000 See how they're having sex? 0.83

02:04:16.000 There was a brief moment. 1.00

02:04:17.000 Look, there's no one near each other's vagina. 1.00

02:04:20.000 Yeah, it's just like the idea. 0.99

02:04:22.000 It's like theater sex.

02:04:24.000 Well, it was the beginnings of figuring out the loophole between pornography and romantic movies with... 0.76

02:04:33.000 It's essentially, it has almost no plot.

02:04:35.000 They could write the plot like, oh, we're just going to get to Paris.

02:04:37.000 We'll figure it out when we get there.

02:04:39.000 This is what I want you to do.

02:04:40.000 Look out the window.

02:04:41.000 Where's Bob? 1.00

02:04:42.000 Fucking Bob. 1.00

02:04:42.000 Get over here. 1.00

02:04:43.000 I'm horny.

02:04:44.000 And Bob shows up in a yacht.

02:04:46.000 Enough story to make it look like, oh, is this a TV show?

02:04:50.000 Yeah.

02:04:50.000 Because it's a TV show.

02:04:51.000 Bob gets off the boat.

02:04:52.000 I can't believe you're here.

02:04:52.000 I didn't know you were coming.

02:04:53.000 Yes.

02:04:54.000 Let's go get a drink.

02:04:55.000 Then they go into the next room.

02:04:57.000 Next thing still, they start making out.

02:04:58.000 I missed you so much.

02:04:59.000 I missed you too.

02:04:59.000 I've made some mistakes.

02:05:00.000 I'm so sorry.

02:05:02.000 Next thing you know.

02:05:03.000 It's like, oh, I can't do this.

02:05:04.000 It's like, why not?

02:05:05.000 Just one night.

02:05:05.000 It's just one night.

02:05:07.000 Yeah.

02:05:07.000 All right.

02:05:08.000 Yeah.

02:05:09.000 They smoke cigarettes in bed together.

02:05:11.000 Yeah.

02:05:11.000 Back then, everybody smoked.

02:05:12.000 I never really got that.

02:05:14.000 The cigarette after sex.

02:05:16.000 I don't get it. 1.00

02:05:17.000 A post-fuck thing for people who like to smoke. 1.00

02:05:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:05:20.000 You don't get it because you don't like to smoke, right?

02:05:21.000 I don't like to smoke, no.

02:05:22.000 Have you ever smoked?

02:05:23.000 No.

02:05:24.000 Good for you.

02:05:24.000 My parents did.

02:05:26.000 Stupid hobby. 1.00

02:05:27.000 I know. 1.00

02:05:27.000 It's a tough one, man. 1.00

02:05:28.000 Yeah.

02:05:29.000 I get it.

02:05:29.000 My mom quit cold turkey, though.

02:05:31.000 Oh, yeah?

02:05:32.000 Like 13 years ago.

02:05:33.000 Good for her.

02:05:34.000 She's 80 now.

02:05:35.000 Jesus.

02:05:36.000 Is she okay?

02:05:37.000 Yeah.

02:05:37.000 How long did she smoke for?

02:05:38.000 She smoked like...

02:05:40.000 Probably since they're like late teens.

02:05:42.000 See, that's what every long-term smoker, they hear that story.

02:05:45.000 They go, as long as I just know when to jump off this ride, I'm gonna be okay.

02:05:50.000 Remember those Bugs Bunny movies where a plane was about to crash, and right before the plane hit the ground, Bugs Bunny would just hop off?

02:05:55.000 Yes.

02:05:55.000 And a plane would crash, and you'd be like, fine.

02:05:58.000 Yeah, I love that.

02:05:59.000 That's what it is.

02:06:00.000 That's what your mom did. 1.00

02:06:01.000 That's what it is.

02:06:02.000 She was like, whoop, I'm okay.

02:06:03.000 And I'm 80. I'm done.

02:06:06.000 Well, that was fun.

02:06:07.000 That was it.

02:06:08.000 I mean, how many people die of cancer, like, from lung cancer, like, way quicker than that?

02:06:14.000 Oh, yeah.

02:06:14.000 My dad, that's where my dad died from.

02:06:16.000 Well, he had heart trouble first, and then he had, like, a bunch of heart surgeries, because he had, like, a high salt.

02:06:23.000 He wasn't overweight.

02:06:24.000 He was thin.

02:06:25.000 So it's, like, one of those, like, thin fat type of situations.

02:06:28.000 Oh, wow.

02:06:28.000 Did he have just a genetic issue?

02:06:30.000 Yeah.

02:06:30.000 I don't know what it was.

02:06:32.000 It was just some kind of build-up because he was a smoker.

02:06:34.000 He was a heavy smoker.

02:06:35.000 He ate kind of heavy food, salty, whatever.

02:06:39.000 And it just added up.

02:06:41.000 And then he got heart problems, then emphysema.

02:06:44.000 Then the emphysema turned to lung cancer.

02:06:46.000 And then my mom, last year, she discovered she only had like 18% functionality.

02:06:52.000 Or no, like 13% functionality of her heart.

02:06:57.000 And I just happened to be in Montana at the time because I don't have brothers or sisters.

02:07:01.000 And I just happened to be there with a friend of mine for Christmas.

02:07:04.000 And it happened the day after Christmas.

02:07:06.000 So she was like, I really don't feel well today.

02:07:08.000 I took her to the hospital and they were like, yeah, you've got barely any coronary functionality right now.

02:07:14.000 And so then they put in two stents, but a third of her heart is not functioning.

02:07:19.000 One of the aorta just doesn't work anymore. 1.00

02:07:21.000 Wow.

02:07:22.000 Pretty, pretty heavy.

02:07:23.000 But a lot of it is from just like high fat, high salt smoking.

02:07:29.000 Yeah, you know, the thing is people used to think it was high fat.

02:07:33.000 Did you read that thing in the New York Times about where that all came from?

02:07:36.000 The reason why people think saturated fat is bad for you?

02:07:39.000 Yeah, well I know that certain amounts of fats and certain fats are awesome for you and some are terrible.

02:07:45.000 It all came from the New York Times.

02:07:47.000 I mean, it all came from the sugar industry.

02:07:49.000 The sugar industry bribed all these scientists.

02:07:51.000 And they didn't even have to pay them much, man.

02:07:53.000 Apparently it was only like $50,000.

02:07:56.000 They bribed these scientists to study, to report some bogus findings.

02:08:02.000 Pushing the blame away from sugar and onto saturated fat.

02:08:05.000 Oh, I did hear something about that.

02:08:07.000 This is all by the sugar industry.

02:08:08.000 Yeah.

02:08:08.000 To this day, people think saturated fat is bad for you.

02:08:11.000 There's something that I tweeted earlier today that I was reading about saturated fat being able to...

02:08:16.000 Even cholesterol.

02:08:17.000 Cholesterol is the precursor.

02:08:19.000 It's like what you need.

02:08:20.000 It's a substrate for hormones.

02:08:22.000 Sure, sure.

02:08:23.000 No, absolutely.

02:08:24.000 But just saying like there's so much of it.

02:08:26.000 There's so much fat.

02:08:27.000 Yeah, but dietary cholesterol is not even it, man.

02:08:29.000 Dietary cholesterol apparently doesn't even move your blood lipids.

02:08:32.000 A lot of it's genetic.

02:08:34.000 Whether or not you have high cholesterol has to do with your lifestyle, if you're sedentary, whether or not you're eating a lot of sugar and carbs.

02:08:43.000 So this is something that I posted earlier today.

02:08:46.000 When people eat saturated fat, the risk of stroke drops.

02:08:50.000 If they're also avoiding refined carbohydrates, their triglycerides also come down.

02:08:56.000 So what they're saying is that when people eat saturated fat in conjunction with eating a lot of refined carbohydrates like white flour and sugar, it's not good for you at all.

02:09:09.000 So that saturated fat is bad is the wrong culprit.

02:09:13.000 Like saturated fat might be bad for you if you had refined carbohydrates because you're just fucking your whole system up.

02:09:20.000 But, if you can remove the refined carbohydrates, saturated fat consumers have a lower risk of stroke, and their triglycerides come down too.

02:09:29.000 You actually get healthier by eating saturated fat without carbohydrates.

02:09:33.000 That totally makes sense. 0.99

02:09:35.000 It does make sense, but this is all new shit, man. 0.96

02:09:38.000 The way they separated it, it looks like they just kind of finally went like, it's kind of true, it's only true in combination. 0.98

02:09:45.000 Right.

02:09:45.000 It's only true in combination, but you extract the one that we know to be bad because there's many, many studies right now showing that low carbohydrate diets are beneficial for a bunch of different health benefits.

02:09:54.000 So when you take out these refined carbohydrates, it turns out the saturated fat is good for you.

02:10:00.000 Haven't we known, though, for a while, I mean, carbs, like refined carbs, are not good.

02:10:04.000 I mean, I look at it like- We did, but we didn't know how bad they were.

02:10:07.000 Oh, yeah.

02:10:07.000 I think we're realizing now more how bad they are and how important saturated fat and unsaturated fats are.

02:10:13.000 And there's a lot of saturated fats, even for plant-based folks.

02:10:16.000 You get a certain percentage of it from avocados.

02:10:19.000 I think you can get a little bit of it from coconut oil, a certain percentage of it from coconut oil.

02:10:23.000 I guess they're saying coconut oil. 0.99

02:10:25.000 That's bullshit. 0.99

02:10:26.000 That thing was widely criticized by scientists. 1.00

02:10:28.000 That was the American Heart Association who wrote that.

02:10:31.000 And all these scientists got together and Onnit actually published an article about it where we sent, essentially, the American Heart Association is kind of whack.

02:10:39.000 Oh, wow. 0.98

02:10:40.000 Their research is kind of shitty. 0.99

02:10:42.000 Oh, that's too bad. 0.99

02:10:43.000 They're behind the times.

02:10:45.000 Well, it makes sense.

02:10:46.000 Yeah, you have to be, the cutting edge of nutrition, this is why it's so confusing, is constantly revolving around the latest science.

02:10:53.000 So if you're not using the latest science, you're not using the latest cutting edge of nutrition.

02:10:58.000 So if you're talking about some shit that they discovered in the 1970s, There's quite a bit of possibility that you might be wrong. 0.98

02:11:05.000 It's tainted. 0.99

02:11:06.000 Yeah, I mean, that totally makes sense.

02:11:08.000 I mean, that's something that I tend to...

02:11:10.000 You know, my thing is, like, I just try to eat, like, what would a diabetic do?

02:11:15.000 Like, that's a good starting place.

02:11:17.000 And then the other thing is just, like, simplicity.

02:11:19.000 You know, like, for me, chicken breast, lean fish, snapper, brown rice, oatmeal, steamed broccoli, steamed kale, egg whites, egg white protein...

02:11:31.000 But even egg whites.

02:11:32.000 Egg whites are not nearly as healthy for you as egg yolks.

02:11:35.000 Egg yolks are actually better for you.

02:11:37.000 Egg yolks have more protein in them.

02:11:38.000 There's all sorts of vitamins that you get in egg yolks that you don't get from the whites.

02:11:42.000 I guess I'm talking about the powder.

02:11:43.000 Not more protein, but a good percentage of the protein, I should say.

02:11:46.000 And more cholesterol.

02:11:47.000 Yeah, the cholesterol is really the thing. 0.99

02:11:49.000 But for me, J-Rob, egg white protein, that stuff is so fucking crack. 0.96

02:11:53.000 It's great. 0.98

02:11:54.000 And it mixes really well.

02:11:55.000 I don't think they could put the yolk in there.

02:11:57.000 Have you ever used plant-based protein?

02:11:59.000 Like pea protein is really good.

02:12:01.000 Hemp protein, if you get it from a good source.

02:12:03.000 Yeah, I've used all of those things.

02:12:05.000 I guess egg white is one of the most easily absorbed.

02:12:10.000 And it's just kind of simple.

02:12:12.000 What I like about it is that it's simple and it just comes from an unrefined...

02:12:16.000 You know, refined to get it to a powder.

02:12:18.000 Right, but that's what I would say.

02:12:20.000 The issue is in the dehydration, rehydration process, it's so different than with hemp, where you're essentially just getting the plant fiber, grinding it down to a fine powder, and then you eat it.

02:12:31.000 So it's super easy to digest.

02:12:32.000 It's almost like squeezed juice, except for it's a dried plant versus a dehydrated liquid product.

02:12:40.000 You know, like egg yolks are kind of liquidy, right?

02:12:42.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:12:43.000 I mean, yeah, I guess they are.

02:12:46.000 They start that way.

02:12:47.000 But if you cook them, or I mean, I guess you could have them raw.

02:12:50.000 Well, you can if you know the source.

02:12:52.000 Yeah, if you know the source.

02:12:54.000 People are apparently catching salmonella, though, from backyard chickens.

02:12:56.000 Oh, yeah.

02:12:56.000 Apparently that is an issue now.

02:12:58.000 Oh, yeah.

02:13:00.000 Yeah, right.

02:13:00.000 And there's like that huge movement, like an urban movement.

02:13:04.000 So people who do that, be careful if you don't know what's going on.

02:13:08.000 Don't eat it raw.

02:13:09.000 Just because you've got it in your backyard does not necessarily mean it's 100% safe to eat raw.

02:13:14.000 I made this.

02:13:16.000 My thing is I just eat pretty simply.

02:13:19.000 Do you eat fish?

02:13:20.000 Yeah.

02:13:22.000 Fatty fish, like salmon, is supposed to be the best for you?

02:13:24.000 I do like salmon.

02:13:25.000 I like coho salmon, which is really good if you can.

02:13:28.000 And then I like hamachi.

02:13:32.000 Hamachi is just an amazing mackerel.

02:13:35.000 I really dig.

02:13:35.000 Mackerel's great.

02:13:37.000 Snapper's really nice for just a nice, lean piece of fish.

02:13:40.000 I just want a basic.

02:13:41.000 Do you ever go fishing?

02:13:43.000 You know, I used to in Montana.

02:13:44.000 I grew up in Montana.

02:13:45.000 I used to...

02:13:46.000 Fly fish?

02:13:46.000 No, not fly fish.

02:13:48.000 Just, like, boat fish.

02:13:49.000 Oh, yeah.

02:13:50.000 Or dock fish.

02:13:51.000 Montana.

02:13:51.000 Where were you at?

02:13:52.000 Like, a lake in Montana?

02:13:53.000 Yeah.

02:13:54.000 I forget the...

02:13:55.000 I forget the...

02:13:56.000 Oh, we went to...

02:13:57.000 Rainbow Lake?

02:13:59.000 I think?

02:14:00.000 Rainbow Lake.

02:14:01.000 And then Flathead sometimes.

02:14:03.000 We went to Bozeman last summer, my family, and we went whitewater rafting down the Gallatin. 1.00

02:14:08.000 Fuck, it's amazing, dude. 0.99

02:14:09.000 You get soaked, though. 1.00

02:14:10.000 If you're in the shade, you're going to freeze your dick off. 0.90

02:14:13.000 That water's cold, that water's glacial runoff. 0.98

02:14:16.000 It's like one of the few times I noticed between a shadow and not shadow.

02:14:20.000 Yeah, if you're in the sun, you're like, ah, it's perfect.

02:14:22.000 I'll dry off.

02:14:23.000 I'll be fine. 0.99

02:14:23.000 But if you're in the cold, in the shade, you're fucking freezing. 0.99

02:14:27.000 That water's cold, man. 1.00

02:14:28.000 You're so fucked. 1.00

02:14:29.000 And you just like take one step into the sunlight and you're like, thank you. 1.00

02:14:32.000 It's like breathing.

02:14:33.000 That gallatin's weird because there's a lot of people that fly fish in that gallatin river, but almost everybody releases the fish that they catch.

02:14:43.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you.

02:14:45.000 Yeah, it's more like the sportsman take on it rather than the eating.

02:14:49.000 You're just tricking this fish and sticking a hook in its head and then you're pulling it to shore and then letting it go.

02:14:55.000 Like how many times if this is like a stream where a lot of people on this river, if a lot of people fly fish, what are the odds that a fish gets caught and released like several times in its life?

02:15:09.000 Man, that would be something to ask a stochastician. 0.99

02:15:13.000 What a fucked up life. 1.00

02:15:13.000 Again? 1.00

02:15:14.000 Like you're getting hooked.

02:15:15.000 Jesus, again!

02:15:15.000 Or maybe like, you know what?

02:15:16.000 I don't mind it because I'm still alive.

02:15:18.000 I don't know.

02:15:19.000 I don't like the trauma.

02:15:20.000 I think it would hurt. 0.97

02:15:20.000 I think it would suck. 0.97

02:15:21.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:15:22.000 I don't think that they have nerve endings in their mouth the way...

02:15:26.000 I think it's more like a lot of the tissue in their mouth other than their throat is like almost like a fingernail.

02:15:32.000 I think it's the way it's described.

02:15:34.000 I see.

02:15:35.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

02:15:36.000 Yeah.

02:15:36.000 I mean, because that was the thing.

02:15:37.000 I love fish, but I'm a little bit of a pussy about killing. 0.99

02:15:42.000 And so I have to kind of get into a mindset to do it. 0.99

02:15:46.000 I mean, I could do it.

02:15:47.000 If I need to survive, of course I'm going to eat.

02:15:49.000 I don't have a problem with that.

02:15:51.000 What about an ugly fish, like a flounder?

02:15:53.000 It doesn't matter.

02:15:54.000 I was the kid trying to not step on ants going to school.

02:15:58.000 I was just like very much, even though I do.

02:16:01.000 Although I will say I'm really stoked about Memphis meats.

02:16:04.000 Memphis Meats.

02:16:05.000 Yeah, Memphis Meats.

02:16:06.000 They're out of San Francisco.

02:16:07.000 They're growing steaks and growing chicken.

02:16:11.000 Now, is that actual steak an actual chicken or is it a vegan alternative?

02:16:14.000 From the cells of animals.

02:16:16.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

02:16:16.000 You're gonna get zombie-itis.

02:16:18.000 Yeah.

02:16:19.000 I mean, some things are gonna happen, but I do think that it's an interesting thing because I was vegan for like seven years and now I'm not...

02:16:26.000 Do you get people mad at you because of that?

02:16:28.000 You know, I've gotten some people like, I thought you were vegetarian or I thought you were vegan.

02:16:32.000 I thought you opened Yeah, I thought you cared.

02:16:34.000 But the thing is, I do care, and I'm pretty particular about the sources of my protein.

02:16:39.000 Very particular.

02:16:40.000 But I am excited about this idea, because it poses an interesting question to someone who's choosing to be vegan for ethical reasons, or health reasons, or both.

02:16:54.000 If meat was able to be grown, It's saying that you liked meat before you became one.

02:17:00.000 I like the flavor, but I don't like the ethical.

02:17:03.000 For ethical reasons, it makes sense.

02:17:04.000 For health reasons, I would feel like it's probably just as bad for you or worse.

02:17:09.000 Unless you feel bad when you eat certain things.

02:17:13.000 Not emotionally, but if you just have a reaction to meat.

02:17:15.000 Some people do have that.

02:17:16.000 That's fine.

02:17:17.000 People that do, that's a real common thing recently.

02:17:20.000 You know about that Lone Star Tick disease?

02:17:22.000 No.

02:17:23.000 People are getting allergic to meat.

02:17:25.000 There's some...

02:17:26.000 Oh, weird.

02:17:27.000 Yeah, something that is in the bite of the tick.

02:17:30.000 Something called...

02:17:31.000 They call it alpha-gal for short.

02:17:34.000 And when you get this, you develop this allergy to this stuff that exists in red meat.

02:17:39.000 And so when people get bitten by this one particular tick, they literally develop an allergy to red meat.

02:17:45.000 And it can subside over time.

02:17:46.000 But for a lot of people, they stick to chicken and fish afterwards.

02:17:50.000 They literally become allergic to eating meat.

02:17:52.000 So they become healthier?

02:17:54.000 Not necessarily.

02:17:55.000 See, that's where the whole saturated fat argument comes into play.

02:17:58.000 Oh, sure.

02:17:59.000 I guess it depends on the diet.

02:18:01.000 All this confusion about whether or not red meat is bad for you.

02:18:04.000 Because a lot of these studies that show that there's a direct correlation between red meat and heart attacks, what they don't do is differentiate what kind of red meat.

02:18:13.000 They don't make a differentiation between red meat that's grass-fed, pasture-raised cattle that's very healthy, or bison.

02:18:21.000 Versus a fast food burger with a white bread bun and french fries and a soda with all sorts of sugar in it.

02:18:29.000 Because of the fact that people eat red meat on a daily basis, they don't take into consideration what they eat that red meat with.

02:18:36.000 And there's a giant difference between eating a piece of grass-fed meat with vegetables and a glass of water, maybe a yam.

02:18:45.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

02:18:46.000 Versus eating a fucking Carl's Jr. double cheeseburger with fake bacon and just dripping with funk and, I mean, sugary corn syrupy. 1.00

02:18:56.000 Sugar sauces. 1.00

02:18:57.000 Yeah, I mean, you can't make the butt people do. 1.00

02:19:00.000 And so the correlation between...

02:19:03.000 These are not good tests.

02:19:05.000 Because the correlation between red meat and cancer, you could say, maybe, maybe, but not the way you guys showed it. 0.94

02:19:12.000 The way you guys showed it is just eating red meat with a bunch of other shit versus eating red meat and living a healthy life and eating with vegetables and having what you would call a balanced diet. 0.87

02:19:22.000 You can't say that it's all the same. 0.97

02:19:27.000 I totally agree with that.

02:19:28.000 I mean for me the red meat is like I'll just feel better if I'm not eating it all the time, and I just prefer chicken or whatever.

02:19:34.000 Dude a lot of people have different reactions to all kinds of things.

02:19:38.000 I know several people that have celiacs where they literally can't consume any bread.

02:19:43.000 I know a bunch of people that have that.

02:19:45.000 And for those people, their body is obviously different than mine.

02:19:48.000 If I eat bread I don't feel as good. 0.99

02:19:51.000 You know, if I eat a big-ass sub, like a fucking pastrami sub, it feels great while it's going down. 1.00

02:19:56.000 Sure, but then you feel like, shit! 1.00

02:19:59.000 You feel like shit. 1.00

02:20:01.000 Sometimes it's hard to remember that. 1.00

02:20:03.000 Because you're like, well, I just want the thing.

02:20:05.000 The difference between an In-N-Out double-double with a bun versus protein style with the lettuce, it's an infinitely different thing.

02:20:15.000 I completely agree.

02:20:17.000 I mean, you know, for me, it's like...

02:20:20.000 Like, you know, filet mignon or something like that.

02:20:21.000 It's, like, really nice because it's, like, a very lean cut.

02:20:24.000 What about blue cheese on the top?

02:20:26.000 Well, I don't know about that.

02:20:28.000 I don't know if I can go there.

02:20:29.000 I like the...

02:20:30.000 Crumbled blue cheese and filet mignon.

02:20:32.000 Yeah?

02:20:33.000 You?

02:20:33.000 No?

02:20:34.000 Okay.

02:20:35.000 Jamie's too white bread.

02:20:36.000 He's from Ohio.

02:20:37.000 They don't even know what blue cheese is over there.

02:20:40.000 Turn it into a cheeseburger.

02:20:41.000 Just leave that shop. 0.99

02:20:41.000 They have ranch. 0.99

02:20:43.000 No, bro. 1.00

02:20:44.000 Blue cheese with a little crumbled blue cheese with some fucking... 1.00

02:20:47.000 Look at you. 1.00

02:20:48.000 Yeah.

02:20:49.000 I'll tell you, here's the problem.

02:20:50.000 Honestly, also, like, filet mignon is a boring cut.

02:20:55.000 Like, a ribeye is the cut, right?

02:20:57.000 You get a lot of fat, and it's just, like, cooked in there, and you get a fucking nice, dark surface on the outside, and you slice in, it's red in the middle, and you get a hunk of fat in your mouth. 0.95

02:21:07.000 Woo! 0.99

02:21:08.000 It's so much better tasting than filet mignon.

02:21:11.000 So I would not have blue cheese with a ribeye.

02:21:13.000 I will say that at Pacific Dining Car, I don't know what they do, but they make the most perfect filet mignon.

02:21:20.000 There's like nothing on it.

02:21:21.000 It's just the steak, but it is like the most flavor complex piece of meat ever.

02:21:27.000 Do you go to the downtown one or the one that's in?

02:21:29.000 The downtown one.

02:21:29.000 See, the downtown one is like 24 hours a day, isn't it?

02:21:32.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:21:32.000 How the fuck is that possible? 0.99

02:21:33.000 So I can get a steak at Pacific Dining Cart in downtown LA at 4 o'clock in the morning. 0.99

02:21:38.000 You could.

02:21:38.000 I need to go.

02:21:39.000 Yeah.

02:21:39.000 We need to have like a post-show Pacific Dining Cart dinner.

02:21:43.000 Yeah.

02:21:44.000 One of these days.

02:21:44.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:21:45.000 Absolutely.

02:21:45.000 At the store?

02:21:46.000 Yeah.

02:21:46.000 Oh.

02:21:46.000 Because we're always going to these bullshit places to eat.

02:21:48.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:21:49.000 That place rocks and I just love it.

02:21:51.000 It's got that heritage server vibe to it.

02:21:54.000 It's really cool.

02:21:55.000 I dig that, man.

02:21:56.000 Have you gone to the one in Santa Monica?

02:21:57.000 I have not, no.

02:21:59.000 It's excellent.

02:21:59.000 Is it?

02:21:59.000 They're both excellent.

02:22:00.000 Okay, I'll take it.

02:22:01.000 It's a super old-school steakhouse.

02:22:04.000 Yeah.

02:22:05.000 There's something about that that I like when they have a relationship with the cattle farm or whatever.

02:22:09.000 Yeah.

02:22:10.000 But I will say, I am excited about a grown steak.

02:22:13.000 Right.

02:22:14.000 You're excited about something where something doesn't have to die.

02:22:16.000 Ethically, completely clean.

02:22:18.000 Yeah, if it tastes as good as the original, and you're just like, no, I love both of these, then you would obviously...

02:22:24.000 I would choose the one that was just...

02:22:27.000 One hundred percent.

02:22:28.000 Yeah, you know, I mean just because like well just an efficiency I mean, you know get rid of the empathy the emotional thing but like even just for efficiency's sake.

02:22:37.000 How about this saving the environment from methane?

02:22:40.000 Yeah, totally.

02:22:41.000 The amount of methane that the problem is we don't need cows anymore. 0.88

02:22:44.000 We'll have to start murking those cows. 1.00

02:22:46.000 I know. 1.00

02:22:46.000 Because they're just gonna fuck and just grow. 1.00

02:22:49.000 They're gonna be like deer. 1.00

02:22:50.000 Oh, yeah.

02:22:50.000 A dude online sent me a photo from his house in Long Island, and he was saying that Long Island is just infested with deer, and that they're literally going in and giving these deer operations.

02:23:04.000 What?

02:23:05.000 Yeah, they're trying to remove their ovaries. 1.00

02:23:07.000 They're giving them birth control pills.

02:23:09.000 They're trying all these different ways.

02:23:10.000 Oh my gosh, yeah.

02:23:11.000 They have all these different proposals.

02:23:12.000 And even some places they hire snipers.

02:23:14.000 That's so tough. 0.96

02:23:14.000 They're giving, they're trying to figure out what to do because there's no predators and there's just a fucking astounding number of deer. 0.96

02:23:21.000 That's, you know, it's, you know, it goes, it's just human civilization. 0.89

02:23:24.000 Like we just, it's a domino effect. 0.99

02:23:25.000 We keep like fucking... 0.99

02:23:27.000 Sort of, but the real issue is just no predators. 0.99

02:23:29.000 I mean, if they really want to get bold, if they released a bunch of wolves over there, they take care of that population.

02:23:33.000 I agree, but that was a human decision.

02:23:35.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:23:35.000 Because those ecosystems work perfectly and then we come in and we're like...

02:23:38.000 I don't like those trees over there.

02:23:40.000 And a bird goes away, and then that bird was responsible for this thing, and that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

02:23:46.000 I don't like wolves eating my kids.

02:23:47.000 I hate wolves.

02:23:48.000 I don't like the way they have sharp teeth.

02:23:50.000 I don't like it one bit, and they don't look very friendly.

02:23:53.000 So whatever the reason, so that's kind of what you get.

02:23:58.000 You monkey with a perfect system.

02:24:00.000 Yeah.

02:24:01.000 But once you monkey with that perfect system, once you monkeyed it out, you're responsible. 1.00

02:24:05.000 There's fucking deer everywhere! 1.00

02:24:07.000 Yeah, you've got to keep it running. 1.00

02:24:08.000 Where are we going?

02:24:09.000 I know.

02:24:09.000 You've got to keep it running, man.

02:24:10.000 For people who live around there, it's a huge pain in the ass because they crash into those things all the time. 0.98

02:24:15.000 I know. 0.99

02:24:15.000 And you could die. 0.99

02:24:16.000 I've had friends run into meese and deer.

02:24:21.000 Moose.

02:24:21.000 Moose is the scariest one.

02:24:22.000 That's like running into a tree.

02:24:24.000 It's like stories of some guy who had a pickup truck who was going, I don't know, 45, something like that, 50. Yeah.

02:24:32.000 Hit a moose and the moose just walked into the forest.

02:24:37.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:24:37.000 Probably broke a lot of shit, but they could walk away. 0.99

02:24:40.000 It probably broke some shit, but it walked away. 1.00

02:24:41.000 It'll probably, hopefully heal. 0.99

02:24:43.000 Did you see the video on YouTube very recently of a guy hitting a moose on a highway in Canada and it launches it into the air?

02:24:49.000 I mean, launches it.

02:24:51.000 Like, the moose just steps out onto the road, and boom! 0.99

02:24:53.000 This guy hits him with his car, and the people that are filming it are like, holy shit! 0.95

02:24:57.000 And this moose is just flying through the air. 0.99

02:24:59.000 Oh my god. 0.99

02:25:00.000 Yeah, I mean, fucking flying. 0.99

02:25:02.000 Like, 20, 30 feet through the air. 0.99

02:25:05.000 What happened to it?

02:25:06.000 Did it die?

02:25:06.000 It must have died.

02:25:07.000 I don't know, it was just a quick video.

02:25:08.000 It might not have, man.

02:25:11.000 I mean, it might have, but they're so tough.

02:25:14.000 Here it is, right here.

02:25:15.000 Meets are tough.

02:25:16.000 See this guy's driving?

02:25:17.000 Boom! 0.99

02:25:18.000 Oh my gosh.

02:25:20.000 Yeah, that's not alive.

02:25:22.000 That looks like a deer more than a moose.

02:25:23.000 The other one that I saw, honestly, Jamie, was different.

02:25:26.000 Maybe it's the same video from a different angle.

02:25:29.000 Oh, that's a moose.

02:25:30.000 That's it.

02:25:30.000 Oh my god.

02:25:31.000 Oh my god, that's incredible.

02:25:32.000 That's dead.

02:25:33.000 He's just lying.

02:25:34.000 He gets scared and he's playing dead because he doesn't want anybody- Oh, he's definitely dead. 1.00

02:25:39.000 That sucks. 0.99

02:25:40.000 Definitely dead and that car is jack-ma-fied. 0.99

02:25:43.000 That's probably totaled.

02:25:45.000 Caved in, bent frame.

02:25:46.000 That just sucks so bad.

02:25:48.000 Well, you know, there are some places like in Idaho, Montana where they have those underpasses or those overpasses, which is pretty great.

02:25:55.000 To help the animals cross.

02:25:56.000 Yeah, the nature highways.

02:25:57.000 I think that's so...

02:25:58.000 I mean, there's like so many things we could do.

02:26:00.000 Obviously, it's resource intensive and whether people agree with it or not, but we could totally be in harmony with things.

02:26:06.000 It's amazing.

02:26:06.000 We need money for guns.

02:26:07.000 We don't have time for that.

02:26:09.000 You're right.

02:26:09.000 They're doing that on...

02:26:10.000 Six-hour hour.

02:26:11.000 There's a project to do that on the 101 for Mountain Lions.

02:26:14.000 Oh, yeah.

02:26:15.000 Yeah, they should do that.

02:26:17.000 Apparently, the genetic diversity of the mountain lions is threatened by the 101, because there's mountain lions on the ocean side, and they're breeding too much with the mountain lions over there.

02:26:25.000 Oh, interbreeding.

02:26:26.000 And it's too hard for them to get across the 101 to find all the mountain lions on this side, as you go deep into Simi Valley and those areas.

02:26:35.000 So apparently, they're trying to figure out some way to mitigate that, and one of the best ideas is this really wide strip of land, so these things feel comfortable.

02:26:44.000 And they're gonna, like, pave it.

02:26:45.000 I mean, they're gonna, like, you know, put dirt there and make it.

02:26:48.000 I've seen those.

02:26:49.000 They look great, too.

02:26:50.000 But it's a shitload of money.

02:26:51.000 Yeah, but you know what? 1.00

02:26:52.000 They need to do that shit. 1.00

02:26:53.000 I mean, it's like, you know, if we have enough shit, humans already, like, even some of us, I mean, minus mental problems, mental issues, it's like, that's, we have so much, it's just, it's crazy. 1.00

02:27:07.000 Even when I was like, I mean, I was never like destitute, but I was definitely very, very poor and wasn't sure if I would make rent or had to borrow a lot of money for a few years and things like that. 0.96

02:27:18.000 But you just realize how much you have.

02:27:20.000 In comparison.

02:27:22.000 Yeah, in comparison.

02:27:23.000 I can always find water.

02:27:25.000 I could always find water.

02:27:26.000 And if I was social enough, I could definitely gain the trust of people to be able to let me crash for a while on a couch.

02:27:33.000 So there was always a way to survive, even if there are little things.

02:27:38.000 The reason why I bring that up is just because nature, it's kind of our job to be stewards of nature.

02:27:44.000 We should be better at it.

02:27:45.000 It certainly is in a lot of ways.

02:27:47.000 We certainly should be responsible.

02:27:48.000 That's why it should be so much more of a big deal when something like some sort of a company pollutes a bay or an ocean.

02:27:57.000 It is such a giant deal.

02:28:00.000 You can't gloss over it with a cleanup.

02:28:02.000 What you've done is like that whole thing that happened with BP and the oil spill in the Gulf.

02:28:06.000 They devastated an entire ecosystem.

02:28:10.000 I mean, all the people that relied on that area for fishing. 1.00

02:28:13.000 Yeah, fucked. 0.99

02:28:14.000 And then the people that live nearby, and then the people that had to clean it, apparently the people that had to clean it, like... 1.00

02:28:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:28:21.000 No bueno.

02:28:22.000 You had to clean up gasoline spill, oil spill all day.

02:28:25.000 That should be good for you.

02:28:26.000 Are you breathing that in?

02:28:27.000 Yeah.

02:28:27.000 Good.

02:28:28.000 Good.

02:28:29.000 What do you got over your face? 0.99

02:28:30.000 Like one of them fucking surgical masks? 0.99

02:28:32.000 Yeah, right. 1.00

02:28:32.000 A 3M mask. 1.00

02:28:33.000 And then paper masks.

02:28:34.000 That should be sufficient.

02:28:36.000 Definitely is going to filter out all the toxins that are going to get into your DNA. It's so terrible, man.

02:28:40.000 Yeah.

02:28:41.000 I mean, you know...

02:28:42.000 Much of Deepwater Horizon oil spill has disappeared because of bacteria.

02:28:46.000 Oh, that's good.

02:28:47.000 They were eating microbes.

02:28:48.000 Look at this.

02:28:49.000 They poured that on there, didn't they?

02:28:50.000 That was like one other thing. 0.99

02:28:52.000 That's some new shit they're going to use actually for plastic as well. 0.97

02:28:55.000 Chemicals used to disperse it are kept underwater, making it more available to the microbes that live... 0.98

02:29:00.000 In the deeper portions of the ocean.

02:29:02.000 What's up with all those Facebook things like right in front of it?

02:29:05.000 Just like an issue with the website?

02:29:07.000 It's called Shitty Coding, CNBC. You fucks, you CNBC. That's amazing. 1.00

02:29:14.000 I just love when someone super smart figures out a giant issue we have.

02:29:18.000 With something simple.

02:29:19.000 Yeah.

02:29:20.000 Oh, microbes.

02:29:20.000 Microbes can eat oil.

02:29:22.000 Or fungus.

02:29:23.000 Fungus is great.

02:29:24.000 Fungus gets rid of oil. 0.99

02:29:25.000 But meanwhile, those microbes are going to get eaten by fish, and those fish are going to become huge, and they're going to start thinking through, and they go, I'm tired of these motherfuckers coming in and killing us. 1.00

02:29:34.000 We've got to go out there and kill them. 1.00

02:29:36.000 I hope so. 1.00

02:29:37.000 You want fish to kill people? 1.00

02:29:39.000 I mean, if they tried to really fuck with us, that'd be good. 1.00

02:29:42.000 If there's like a new... 0.99

02:29:43.000 We would go to war with the fish and we'd feel good about eating them?

02:29:45.000 Maybe.

02:29:46.000 What is this?

02:29:47.000 Bacteria are evolving to eat plastic we dump into the ocean.

02:29:50.000 Whoa.

02:29:51.000 They're evolving to do it.

02:29:52.000 Without us doing it?

02:29:54.000 That's not good.

02:29:55.000 We're gonna make an alien, man.

02:29:56.000 Like the movie alien.

02:29:58.000 Like the Geiger alien?

02:29:59.000 Yeah.

02:30:00.000 You mean the xenomorph?

02:30:02.000 Yeah.

02:30:02.000 Did you see, I posted this thing on Instagram a couple days ago that I saw from Nature is Metal, the Instagram account, and it's a cuttlefish.

02:30:10.000 Have you ever seen how a cuttlefish jacks other fish?

02:30:13.000 No.

02:30:14.000 Dude, watch this.

02:30:15.000 Watch this.

02:30:16.000 It doesn't even seem real.

02:30:17.000 Look at that.

02:30:18.000 Yo! 1.00

02:30:19.000 Tell me that's not like some Avatar shit. 1.00

02:30:21.000 It's like a frog. 1.00

02:30:21.000 It's like an underwater frog. 1.00

02:30:23.000 But the way it opens up like a flower and pulls this thing into it.

02:30:27.000 I mean, this is incredible.

02:30:28.000 Look.

02:30:28.000 It stabs it and then...

02:30:30.000 That's so cool.

02:30:31.000 It's such a great system.

02:30:33.000 God!

02:30:33.000 Because it's like...

02:30:34.000 It keeps it close to stay in camouflage.

02:30:36.000 Yeah.

02:30:36.000 And then it only opens it last second.

02:30:39.000 And...

02:30:40.000 Probably maybe the color mesmerizes as it's moving forward.

02:30:44.000 Well, it's not just that.

02:30:44.000 The sea anemones, it literally takes on the shape and texture of the sea anemones.

02:30:50.000 That's amazing.

02:30:50.000 The amount of camouflage it has is insane.

02:30:53.000 There's somehow or another, I guess, related to octopus, which many of the octopus can do the same thing.

02:30:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:30:59.000 The camouflage thing is insane.

02:31:01.000 I mean, nature is like way more advanced than we'll ever.

02:31:04.000 I mean, well, we are nature, but it's just like, from our point of view, looking at nature, which is just like an evolution of, you know, it's molecular evolution. 0.98

02:31:13.000 Meanwhile, the octopus is like, what the fuck are you complaining about, dude? 0.99

02:31:17.000 You have a phone, okay? 0.99

02:31:18.000 You can fly in a plane.

02:31:19.000 Yeah, totally. 1.00

02:31:20.000 You're a bitchin' that you can't turn into, like, you look like a coral reef? 1.00

02:31:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:31:23.000 Nobody gives a fuck. 1.00

02:31:24.000 Is that a cuttlefish right there pretending to be a coral reef? 0.99

02:31:26.000 No.

02:31:27.000 It's a micro crab.

02:31:29.000 What are they feeding?

02:31:30.000 A crab.

02:31:31.000 This is a cuttlefish crab.

02:31:32.000 Oh, whoa! 1.00

02:31:33.000 Look at that fucker. 1.00

02:31:35.000 That's so amazing. 1.00

02:31:36.000 What a weird-looking, freaky alien creature.

02:31:39.000 It's great, and I love its propulsion system.

02:31:41.000 It's great.

02:31:41.000 It just undulates on the side.

02:31:43.000 It's so cool.

02:31:45.000 It's just...

02:31:46.000 I love it.

02:31:47.000 I also really love spiders.

02:31:50.000 I think spiders are just incredible.

02:31:51.000 The King of Camouflage.

02:31:52.000 Play that video.

02:31:53.000 King of Camouflage, the cuttlefish.

02:31:55.000 And they are kind of cuddly looking.

02:31:56.000 They do have like a little smile to them and these cute eyes.

02:32:00.000 I don't think they mean the same kind of cuddle.

02:32:01.000 I think it's cuddle with a C-T. No, no, no.

02:32:04.000 That's what they meant.

02:32:05.000 That's what they meant.

02:32:06.000 Look at how it just becomes like whatever it's near.

02:32:10.000 Like when it sits down on stuff.

02:32:12.000 Yeah, it's so cool.

02:32:14.000 Look at it.

02:32:14.000 It looks like other fish.

02:32:16.000 Oh, that's an octopus.

02:32:19.000 Look at this octopus as it's on the ground.

02:32:21.000 It's an encephalopod.

02:32:22.000 These things are just, they've adapted a way to fake it.

02:32:27.000 It's just so alien to us.

02:32:31.000 And that's the thing about like... 1.00

02:32:32.000 Oh my god, look at that shit! 1.00

02:32:33.000 Crazy, instantaneous. 1.00

02:32:35.000 Look at how it looks like the bottom of that thing that it's in. 0.62

02:32:38.000 Looks more like Cthulhu than octopuses do.

02:32:42.000 Right, right.

02:32:43.000 Well, you know, it's like you were talking about before about the idea of aliens visiting us.

02:32:47.000 Like, why would we think that they would look like us at all?

02:32:50.000 Oh, yeah.

02:32:51.000 No.

02:32:51.000 I mean, you know, they could just be spheres of energy.

02:32:54.000 Sure, exactly.

02:32:55.000 And they're just like, hey guys, what's up?

02:32:57.000 Why do they have to have a language even?

02:32:58.000 Why can't they just convey intent?

02:33:00.000 Well, that's why I liked, what was that movie that came out recently?

02:33:03.000 The alien movie.

02:33:04.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:33:05.000 The one, the memory one.

02:33:08.000 Yeah.

02:33:08.000 Which I wrote off at first.

02:33:10.000 Yeah.

02:33:10.000 Then I went back and watched it and liked it.

02:33:11.000 It's pretty fucking great. 0.95

02:33:12.000 What was it called again? 0.98

02:33:13.000 I'm blanking because I didn't like it.

02:33:14.000 I don't remember.

02:33:15.000 Jeremy Renner?

02:33:16.000 That guy?

02:33:16.000 Yeah.

02:33:17.000 Septipods?

02:33:17.000 Arrival?

02:33:18.000 Arrival, yeah.

02:33:19.000 Yeah, Arrival.

02:33:20.000 I really liked that movie.

02:33:21.000 I liked it eventually.

02:33:22.000 Yeah.

02:33:23.000 I first saw it when the girl died. 0.99

02:33:24.000 I was like, get the fuck out of here. 0.99

02:33:25.000 You're not going to get me with this. 0.99

02:33:26.000 I'll shut it off.

02:33:27.000 Yeah, I know, I know, I know.

02:33:28.000 Yeah.

02:33:28.000 And then, like, man, that changed real quick.

02:33:31.000 Yeah, it was very interesting.

02:33:33.000 And they were something totally different.

02:33:36.000 The way I feel, it's like, why would we assume that everything would be physical when we have things like Wi-Fi?

02:33:43.000 We have literally all of the world's data coming to you on your phone from space.

02:33:50.000 With zero connection.

02:33:51.000 You take that thing, spin that phone around, there's nothing physical connecting it.

02:33:55.000 So why wouldn't we assume that information would travel from alien to alien like that?

02:34:00.000 Why do they need a language?

02:34:02.000 Why do they need to be able to touch things and see things and feel things?

02:34:07.000 They might be information.

02:34:09.000 Information might be an alien.

02:34:11.000 That's why, you know, like when people talk about doing DMT or, you know, or even ketamine, you know, like the kind of dissociative intelligences that people are, intelligences being dissociative is like that they feel around them like almost an insect-like intelligence.

02:34:28.000 That's why I think like everything is just pure consciousness.

02:34:30.000 It's just everything is consciousness.

02:34:32.000 Around you all the time.

02:34:33.000 Yeah, all the time.

02:34:34.000 It's entirely possible.

02:34:35.000 I mean, you know, it's like that's what you are.

02:34:37.000 It's all we are.

02:34:38.000 I mean, as far as we know, we're vibrating weird particles. 0.67

02:34:41.000 We just don't have the senses to deal with whatever the fuck else is around.

02:34:46.000 We have the senses to deal with all our biological needs, all of our imperatives, what we need to concentrate on in order to stay functional as a flesh bag. 0.90

02:34:55.000 Yeah.

02:34:55.000 We're a division of consciousness.

02:34:57.000 Yes.

02:34:57.000 We're literally life forms.

02:34:59.000 We're forms of life.

02:35:00.000 Well, your body literally is an avatar for consciousness.

02:35:03.000 Oh, yeah.

02:35:04.000 Just like the movie.

02:35:05.000 That's what I call the biomechanical consciousness transport system.

02:35:08.000 Ooh, that's a good name for it.

02:35:10.000 If you want to talk to chicks. 1.00

02:35:11.000 Listen, what we're going to do is we're just going to get in the hot tub with our biological transport soul containment vehicles.

02:35:19.000 Whatever, whatever.

02:35:20.000 It's no big deal.

02:35:20.000 It's a hot tub.

02:35:21.000 It feels good.

02:35:22.000 Yeah, you know.

02:35:24.000 I'll sit over here.

02:35:24.000 You sit over there.

02:35:26.000 Some women would probably take that. 1.00

02:35:29.000 They'd be like, yeah, that's cool.

02:35:30.000 Yeah, like happy chicks. 0.83

02:35:31.000 And then you're like, yeah! 0.99

02:35:32.000 Yeah, girls with tattoos like right above their tits. 1.00

02:35:35.000 They would go for that. 0.99

02:35:37.000 They'd be like, yeah.

02:35:38.000 I like what you're saying.

02:35:39.000 You made me feel good about my choices.

02:35:41.000 Yeah, I dig it.

02:35:42.000 Thanks, man.

02:35:43.000 I dig it.

02:35:43.000 You want some of this joint?

02:35:45.000 Especially if you have a hairdo like yours, man.

02:35:47.000 You can pull that kind of talk off.

02:35:48.000 Oh, yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:35:49.000 Although that fat Jewish guy has made that haircut a little fucked up. 1.00

02:35:52.000 That guy's kind of like tapped into it in a way it's... 1.00

02:35:55.000 Yeah.

02:35:56.000 Yeah.

02:35:56.000 It's become an issue.

02:35:57.000 It's become an issue.

02:35:58.000 Strange man.

02:35:59.000 Strange man.

02:36:02.000 Very strange man.

02:36:03.000 Who is the guy, Guy Debord, on your shirt?

02:36:05.000 Who's Guy Debord?

02:36:06.000 Oh, Guy Debord.

02:36:07.000 Guy.

02:36:08.000 Oh, it's Guy.

02:36:09.000 Also, I don't care anymore. 1.00

02:36:11.000 He started, yeah, it's like, ah, fuck this. 1.00

02:36:14.000 It's the guy who started the Situationists. 0.99

02:36:16.000 They were kind of like a philosophical, artistic movement in the 50s.

02:36:21.000 Oh, yeah?

02:36:22.000 He was French, and they got basically credited, it was kind of like Dadaism mixed with, like, Yeah.

02:36:52.000 As opposed to street level.

02:36:54.000 So they would do things like that or take maps, tourist maps of other cities and superimpose them block for block on another city.

02:37:01.000 Or they did jokes or weird kind of bits where one guy dressed as a bishop and actually led a sermon at Notre Dame.

02:37:12.000 Ooh, don't ever say it like that again.

02:37:14.000 How dare you?

02:37:16.000 But they were like pranksters. 1.00

02:37:19.000 They were kind of like dicks. 0.99

02:37:20.000 Notre Dame. 0.99

02:37:21.000 They were like pranksters.

02:37:23.000 And they were credited...

02:37:24.000 Malcolm McLaren was a situationist.

02:37:26.000 And he partially created the Sex Pistols as living mannequins for his fashion.

02:37:33.000 Oh, wow.

02:37:33.000 And so the punk movement is kind of associated with situationists.

02:37:37.000 Because their whole mantra...

02:37:38.000 I mean, it's a distillation, but it's like...

02:37:41.000 Provoked to the edge of violence.

02:37:43.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:37:44.000 Now, that's interesting.

02:37:46.000 Was there ever a documentary on these guys?

02:37:48.000 There might be.

02:37:49.000 I've never found one.

02:37:50.000 I'm just like, there's the Society of the Spectacle, which is one of the books that he wrote, and there's like two books that he wrote.

02:37:56.000 Guy Debord's The Society of the Spectacle.

02:37:59.000 Yeah.

02:37:59.000 Oh, interesting.

02:38:00.000 Yeah.

02:38:01.000 The self, Will Self takes a walk through the, how do you say that?

02:38:04.000 Where?

02:38:04.000 Ben Leuse of Paris.

02:38:11.000 I think it's Benieu.

02:38:13.000 Benieu's of Paris.

02:38:16.000 And is astonished by the prescience, is that the right way to say that?

02:38:20.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:38:21.000 Prescience of Debord's 1967 masterpiece, which so accurately describes the shit we're in. 0.98

02:38:27.000 Interesting. 0.98

02:38:28.000 Basically, yeah, Society of the Spectacles. 0.96

02:38:30.000 And more fucking issues with the Twitter thing showing up right there on the pictures. 1.00

02:38:34.000 The fuck is with your browser, son? 1.00

02:38:36.000 I'm zooming in and it probably fucks with it. 1.00

02:38:38.000 Oh.

02:38:38.000 You probably have ad blockers and all kinds of weird things going on.

02:38:40.000 Oh, that's probably what it is.

02:38:41.000 Maybe you've been hacked, son!

02:38:44.000 H-A-C-K-E-D. Yeah.

02:38:46.000 Anyways, that's who he is.

02:38:47.000 That's amazing.

02:38:48.000 I didn't know about that guy.

02:38:49.000 Yeah, when I first moved to New York, a friend of mine, a performance artist, took me to this experimental theater that was in a garage in Williamsburg, like, way back.

02:38:58.000 It was still pretty shitty, seedy.

02:39:00.000 And you walk into this garage, and they had this theater piece on Guy Debord. 0.86

02:39:06.000 It was amazing.

02:39:08.000 Because they kind of explained what it was about and the journey and blah, blah, blah.

02:39:11.000 But it was also done in a style that would have been situationist.

02:39:14.000 So we were just like on these boards that were on top of buckets for seats for bleachers.

02:39:20.000 And then they were passing around like beers.

02:39:22.000 So people were just drinking beers and watching this.

02:39:26.000 Play.

02:39:26.000 And it was amazing.

02:39:28.000 And it really inspired me where I was like, oh yeah, I dig.

02:39:31.000 I like it.

02:39:31.000 I like that pranking, hacking, social hacking.

02:39:33.000 It's nice.

02:39:35.000 Provoked to the point of violence.

02:39:36.000 To the edge of violence.

02:39:38.000 Just before violence occurs.

02:39:40.000 Sounds like an annoying neighbor.

02:39:41.000 Yeah.

02:39:41.000 Basically.

02:39:42.000 But someone who's doing it on purpose, which is even more annoying.

02:39:45.000 Yeah, super annoying.

02:39:46.000 It's more than just like, ah, he's an annoying person.

02:39:48.000 It's like, oh no, this person's doing it on purpose.

02:39:50.000 Like Andy Kaufman.

02:39:52.000 Right.

02:39:52.000 Situationist.

02:39:53.000 Yeah.

02:39:53.000 He wouldn't necessarily maybe have described himself as that, but he's a perfect example of that.

02:39:58.000 Or Andy Warhol.

02:40:00.000 More Kaufman, right?

02:40:01.000 Because Warhol was just creating art.

02:40:03.000 Well, yeah, but his whole, like, con artist kind of vibe, whether he would have ascribed to it or not, but the fact that he was kind of conning a little bit, you know, the Campbell's soup can thing was a little bit of a con.

02:40:16.000 A little bit, but people enjoyed looking at it, though.

02:40:19.000 They did, but it started, it's kind of like, when I see it, I'm like, ah, it's a little bit of a con.

02:40:25.000 And the factory idea is also a little bit of a con.

02:40:29.000 It's a little bit of a hack.

02:40:31.000 I mean, in a conscious, really intelligent, philosophical way.

02:40:35.000 It's not to say that he's really trying to fool people.

02:40:37.000 It's not that.

02:40:38.000 He's just like, this.

02:40:40.000 And people are like...

02:40:43.000 Yes, I like it.

02:40:44.000 And he's like, that's what I thought, you know?

02:40:46.000 Right, right.

02:40:47.000 It's always weird when like people push back against someone trying to push what they think is too far.

02:40:54.000 Like they become these big cultural arguments as to what's art and what's not, especially when things are funded.

02:41:00.000 Like do you remember Piss Christ?

02:41:02.000 Do you remember all that?

02:41:03.000 You don't remember that?

02:41:04.000 That was, um, goddammit, what was his name?

02:41:07.000 I was just starting out doing stand-up, so it was the late 80s.

02:41:12.000 God, what is his name?

02:41:14.000 What was his name?

02:41:15.000 Okay, it wasn't that one I was thinking of.

02:41:17.000 That was one of them. 1.00

02:41:19.000 There was another guy who was famous for that kind of shit. 1.00

02:41:26.000 Goddammit. 1.00

02:41:27.000 Very controversial artists who did a lot of weird, sexual, and odd stuff in the late 80s, early 90s.

02:41:37.000 And it became a huge issue because people were mad that some of it was being funded and put up in museums that were state funded.

02:41:45.000 Oh, interesting.

02:41:47.000 Goddammit, it's at the tip of my tongue. 0.89

02:41:48.000 I can't remember this guy's name.

02:41:49.000 These are like pieces of art, like artworks.

02:41:52.000 Yeah, and Piss Christ was one of them.

02:41:55.000 What Piss Christ was was a jar of piss with a crucifix in it, and it was on display in a museum.

02:42:00.000 Oh, I do remember that. 0.99

02:42:01.000 Yeah, people were like, what in the fuck is this? 0.99

02:42:04.000 And they... 0.99

02:42:06.000 And they called it Piss Christ.

02:42:08.000 And people would travel from all over the world to go stare at Piss Christ.

02:42:12.000 I get it.

02:42:13.000 What's the audacity, right?

02:42:14.000 Part of it is the audacity to just do something like that.

02:42:17.000 And just be like, cool with it.

02:42:19.000 I mean, that's my favorite art is like, one of my favorite moments in kind of discovering that was when I was going to Cornish College of the Arts in Seattle.

02:42:31.000 I think it was every Tuesday or Thursday, or maybe every Wednesday, one of the middle days, they would allow students to throw a concert in the theater, in the small poncho hall theater, and you could just sign up for it, and you could do whatever you wanted.

02:42:44.000 And one day, it was like...

02:42:46.000 All the kind of, I guess I would call them performance, art, musician, conceptual musician, badasses, like all on stage.

02:42:54.000 And it was like Brent Arnold on cello, this guy Avin Kang on violin or viola, and a guy on bass.

02:43:03.000 Just like five or six people on stage, all badasses.

02:43:08.000 Tim Young.

02:43:09.000 And I was in the theater, and there were like maybe 23 kids in a 60-seat theater, just like chilling, scattered throughout the seats.

02:43:18.000 And they started playing, and everybody was playing through distortion pedals.

02:43:22.000 And they just started playing these distortion drones, like all of them.

02:43:28.000 And then eventually it just sounded...

02:43:31.000 You saw people doing things on stage, but all you could hear was...

02:43:42.000 For, like, probably an hour.

02:43:46.000 And I had earplugs in.

02:43:51.000 And everybody cleared out.

02:43:54.000 Like, everybody cleared out.

02:43:55.000 And I hung to the end.

02:43:56.000 But I started, like, head bobbing.

02:43:59.000 Because, like...

02:44:01.000 That's when I started realizing that static, whether you're seeing visual static or audio static, after a while, you start to hallucinate, and you start to hear music in static.

02:44:11.000 So if you hear, eventually, when you defocus, it's like those, you know those magic eye puzzles where you're supposed to hold your thumb up?

02:44:20.000 Right, right, right.

02:44:20.000 And then all of a sudden, oh, I can see this three-dimensional image.

02:44:22.000 Same exact concept, essentially.

02:44:24.000 But your mind is creating the structure, the geometric structure, because it wants to find structure.

02:44:29.000 And static is like raw energy.

02:44:31.000 Sort of like Jodie Foster in Contact, when she would stare at the static, trying to find patterns in it.

02:44:36.000 Yes, exactly.

02:44:37.000 That's exactly right, yeah.

02:44:38.000 Yeah, similar thing.

02:44:39.000 And so I just couldn't stop headbanging, essentially, but it was really slow.

02:44:46.000 And then afterwards, they came up to me and they're like, oh, okay, you're one of those.

02:44:52.000 And I just remember the bass player saying that to me, and I was like, ah, that's so cool.

02:44:57.000 Maybe.

02:44:58.000 He didn't have to explain anything at all.

02:45:00.000 So for me, when I see duration pieces, things that test people's patience, I love it.

02:45:06.000 I love seeing people go, I can't stand this.

02:45:08.000 And you're just like, no, just wait.

02:45:10.000 Just hang in there.

02:45:10.000 No, I can't stand it.

02:45:11.000 Or it's pissing people off.

02:45:12.000 I love it.

02:45:14.000 Or not even pissing them off, just making them frustrated.

02:45:17.000 There's a certain amount of frustration that I think is fun to play with.

02:45:22.000 At least when I'm doing comedy, a little bit of that is good.

02:45:25.000 Just like little doses here and there.

02:45:27.000 It's kind of my thing.

02:45:28.000 I like it.

02:45:29.000 It's a good feeling.

02:45:31.000 Test to see if people are willing to relax.

02:45:34.000 Yeah, totally. 1.00

02:45:36.000 I'm just fucking with you. 0.99

02:45:37.000 Just keep that in mind when I'm doing something that seems kind of frustrating. 0.99

02:45:40.000 And if you can keep both those things in mind, you can relax and just go for the ride.

02:45:44.000 Right.

02:45:45.000 If you want. 1.00

02:45:46.000 Or you could just be like, this fucking sucks and leave, which is fine too. 1.00

02:45:50.000 I mean, it's not for everybody. 1.00

02:45:52.000 Nothing is, right?

02:45:53.000 And it's all dependent upon whether or not you're good at delivering the ride.

02:45:58.000 Right.

02:45:59.000 Totally.

02:45:59.000 As long as there's a reward, that's the thing.

02:46:02.000 I mean, that's what you're doing, right?

02:46:03.000 You're always playing off of something.

02:46:04.000 That's what a joke is.

02:46:05.000 It's like...

02:46:06.000 Expectations, subvert the expectation.

02:46:09.000 And there's a few different ways you can do that.

02:46:12.000 And there's going to be people that just have different styles that they enjoy.

02:46:15.000 There's people that are Gabriel Iglesias fans, and there's people that are Tig Notaro fans.

02:46:20.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:46:21.000 And there's people that are fans of both.

02:46:24.000 Yeah, totally.

02:46:25.000 I know.

02:46:25.000 I'm like, I like anybody that's funny.

02:46:29.000 I like any music that's good.

02:46:31.000 Yeah, that's a good way to say it.

02:46:35.000 Results may vary.

02:46:36.000 Yeah, results may vary, but it's a sincerity.

02:46:40.000 We all know, if we're watching other comics up there that we haven't seen before, you can tell pretty quick when it's coming from an honest place.

02:46:49.000 You can tell they're nervous and they're kind of playing a cool front.

02:46:54.000 You can tell that the jokes, the point of view is coming from an honest place.

02:46:58.000 Well, it's also, I think we lost that with DJs.

02:47:02.000 There's not a lot of DJs.

02:47:04.000 Like, when I was a kid, I would remember DJs playing songs, and there was, like, sincere appreciation for the songs they were playing, because they had picked this song.

02:47:12.000 They really want you to dig this song.

02:47:13.000 And you'd find a DJ that, like, you really enjoyed his show.

02:47:17.000 Like, oh, he's gonna be on from 3 to 7. This guy's a shit. 1.00

02:47:20.000 He plays great music. 1.00

02:47:21.000 Yeah.

02:47:21.000 And you'd listen to him talk about the songs, and there was this authentic thing to it, versus a Jack FM station.

02:47:28.000 We're like, here we go, Jack FM. All the hits, all the difference, all the time.

02:47:34.000 Yeah, 24-7.

02:47:35.000 Perfect fade right into the music.

02:47:38.000 Like KCRW. You get that with KCRW. So donate now to...

02:47:43.000 No, just kidding.

02:47:44.000 Donate now.

02:47:45.000 Fresh Air with Terry Gross.

02:47:47.000 Hi, I'm Terry Gross.

02:47:49.000 All Things Considered.

02:47:50.000 I used to listen to that all the time.

02:47:53.000 Public Radio International.

02:47:54.000 NPR. I used to listen to that all the time.

02:47:56.000 Corva Coleman.

02:47:58.000 That was my morning ritual.

02:48:00.000 Oh, totally.

02:48:00.000 Listen to NPR. Back before there were podcasts, this is different than what other things you're hearing.

02:48:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:48:07.000 All Things Considered.

02:48:08.000 I love Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.

02:48:09.000 Ooh, all those are good.

02:48:10.000 It's a pretty fun time.

02:48:13.000 It's pretty biting, actually, and it's lightning fast.

02:48:16.000 I mean, the wit on there is just awesome.

02:48:18.000 Yeah, NPR is...

02:48:19.000 Radiolab is NPR, isn't it?

02:48:20.000 Radiolab, yep.

02:48:21.000 Yeah.

02:48:21.000 I mean, that was one of the best podcasts, period.

02:48:23.000 Amazing.

02:48:24.000 I've learned more from Radiolab than I did from all my years of barely paying attention in school.

02:48:29.000 Like, for sure.

02:48:31.000 Yep, yep.

02:48:31.000 I quote Radiolab more than I quote most books I've read.

02:48:35.000 Yeah.

02:48:36.000 No, I agree.

02:48:37.000 I agree.

02:48:38.000 They're absolutely fantastic.

02:48:39.000 I mean, there's just, like, a lot of cool shows on there.

02:48:42.000 Yeah.

02:48:42.000 And KCRW is dope because they play so much dope music.

02:48:46.000 Like, it's...

02:48:47.000 I discover, like, probably 80% of my music on there.

02:48:51.000 Really?

02:48:51.000 What station is that?

02:48:52.000 KCOW, it's 93.3, is it?

02:48:55.000 Or 89.9. 0.99

02:48:56.000 I haven't listened to a radio station in fucking years. 0.99

02:49:00.000 You haven't turned on the radio in years. 0.99

02:49:03.000 It's cool.

02:49:03.000 I just get the app, and I stream it from my app, and from my phone.

02:49:06.000 I listen to music when I work out, sometimes when I'm driving.

02:49:10.000 Most of the time I listen to podcasts now.

02:49:12.000 89.9, City of License, Santa Monica, Public Broadcasting.

02:49:16.000 Owner, Santa Monica College.

02:49:18.000 How weird.

02:49:19.000 Yeah, they're moving.

02:49:20.000 They got a new location, but they're like one of the most influential radio stations in the country, I think.

02:49:25.000 That's the place where Henry Rollins has his weekly show, right?

02:49:28.000 Yeah, totally.

02:49:29.000 Yeah.

02:49:30.000 Fanatic.

02:49:31.000 Yeah, and that's him.

02:49:31.000 Hey, guys, Fanatic!

02:49:33.000 That's a good Rollins impression.

02:49:35.000 Yeah.

02:49:36.000 It's great.

02:49:37.000 I mean, you just get this kind of more like 80s radio feel.

02:49:41.000 Right, right, right.

02:49:41.000 You get these underground guys or people with these really warm voices.

02:49:45.000 That was a new one from Orbital coming out with a single that's definitely...

02:49:50.000 Definitely geared more towards the kids from the 1990s, if you remember that time period. 0.98

02:49:55.000 This is a new one from, you know, like that kind of shit where you're like, oh, yeah, oh. 0.98

02:49:58.000 You feel like you're in a warm bath of like, oh, what else you got? 0.99

02:50:03.000 This is a new one from Flantarf.

02:50:05.000 And then it's just like this weird, angular, gross-sounding music.

02:50:08.000 And you're like, how are you able to talk like that and play that track?

02:50:11.000 That was great.

02:50:11.000 Well, I love the fact that people can just play whatever they want.

02:50:14.000 We need more of that.

02:50:16.000 Totally.

02:50:16.000 We tried for a long time to do it the other way.

02:50:18.000 It doesn't work.

02:50:19.000 No, algorithms. 0.95

02:50:20.000 I mean, we've got Spotify now and you've got all that shit, which I don't really dig. 0.98

02:50:24.000 You don't? 0.97

02:50:25.000 Not as much.

02:50:26.000 I mean, sometimes I'll do a radio station on Apple Music.

02:50:30.000 But I like choosing.

02:50:32.000 I listen to albums.

02:50:33.000 So I listen to an album for a long time and then I'll switch to another album or I'll switch to like three songs off of a record.

02:50:39.000 But I like choosing what I'm listening to.

02:50:41.000 On occasion, I have discovered cool music by using the radio station.

02:50:45.000 But really, for me, I'd rather just do KCRW because then there's a real human You know, going, hey, check this out.

02:50:51.000 Yeah, and it's a rare treat.

02:50:54.000 Yeah, I like that.

02:50:55.000 I like keeping it a little bit more old school when it comes to music discovery and listening.

02:51:00.000 Well, just the fact that you know that this is rare now.

02:51:02.000 You know, you appreciate it.

02:51:03.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:51:04.000 Well, we have to come back to it. 1.00

02:51:06.000 I mean, the organic shit. 0.99

02:51:07.000 I mean, that's why, like, anything I look at, like technology, it's like, we're still kind of primitive. 0.99

02:51:11.000 It's not organic enough.

02:51:12.000 It's not an afterthought.

02:51:13.000 We're not in afterthought mode.

02:51:15.000 It's not like, you know, technology should be like a light switch.

02:51:18.000 I went to a restaurant the other day, and all of their furniture was made with, like, metal pipes and, like, wood, like this table.

02:51:26.000 And, you know, like, that sort of crafty sort of feel to things where you're touching wood and there's brick on the wall.

02:51:33.000 Yeah.

02:51:33.000 Like, that's, like, and the menu was written in a chalkboard.

02:51:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:51:37.000 People want that shit now. 1.00

02:51:39.000 They like the personal touch. 1.00

02:51:41.000 It reminds them of being human because we're so digital most of the time. 1.00

02:51:45.000 Yeah, if somebody gives you an iPad and the menu's on the iPad, you're like, Fuck off! 1.00

02:51:48.000 Bring that chalkboard over here! 1.00

02:51:50.000 Do not like it.

02:51:51.000 Let's see the specials on the chalkboard.

02:51:53.000 I want to swipe.

02:51:55.000 To go, what kind of beer do you have?

02:51:57.000 Swipe. 0.99

02:51:57.000 No, it's gross. 0.99

02:51:59.000 I don't like it.

02:52:00.000 That's why I think monitors, TV should only be in sports bars. 0.53

02:52:04.000 And then keep them out of all the other places.

02:52:06.000 I'd love to just go, I'm not a drinker, but if I go to a bar with a friend, I love it when I go into a bar that's just a bar. 0.99

02:52:14.000 And what I mean is there's no fucking television. 0.96

02:52:16.000 It's off. 0.98

02:52:17.000 Maybe just in case for an emergency broadcast or something, because there are people gathered there, whatever. 0.98

02:52:21.000 But I like it when it's like there's no fucking monitor. 0.97

02:52:24.000 People are just chilling, having conversations with each other. 0.98

02:52:27.000 That's what a bar should be.

02:52:28.000 Maybe you show Blade on every screen, streaming 24-7.

02:52:33.000 But project it.

02:52:35.000 Project it on a screen, just to soften the light. 1.00

02:52:38.000 Because otherwise you get that screen glare, which is a fucking asshole. 1.00

02:52:41.000 You're going super old school. 1.00

02:52:42.000 Do you drive a fucking horse? 1.00

02:52:44.000 Yeah, I do. 1.00

02:52:44.000 I do drive a horse. 1.00

02:52:46.000 That's the technical term for you to drive one.

02:52:50.000 Well, we're going to long for the days where engines were real.

02:52:53.000 One day, we're going to be like, remember back when cars made noises and you could hear them coming?

02:52:57.000 Yeah, totally.

02:52:58.000 I'll be like, remember when you used to drive them?

02:53:00.000 Yeah.

02:53:01.000 That was my favorite scene in iRobot.

02:53:04.000 He's like, I'm going manual.

02:53:05.000 They're going like 300 miles per hour.

02:53:07.000 And then the computer's like, or no, the person in the passenger seat, are you crazy switching to manual at these speeds?

02:53:12.000 Yeah.

02:53:13.000 I love that.

02:53:14.000 Yeah, man.

02:53:15.000 One day, that'll be a thing of the past.

02:53:17.000 The spherical wheels, though.

02:53:18.000 I mean, come on, that was sick.

02:53:20.000 Yeah.

02:53:20.000 The car could rotate while it's still maintaining the same speed forward.

02:53:23.000 Oh yeah, that's right.

02:53:25.000 That's coming too, right?

02:53:26.000 Four spheres.

02:53:27.000 Yeah, they have them in factory floor robots or like forklifts now.

02:53:31.000 Oh yeah?

02:53:31.000 I forget what they call that type of steering, but it's like crab.

02:53:36.000 It's basically crab-like, so it can move forward, sideways any way.

02:53:40.000 How many years do you think we have where it's still legal to drive your own car?

02:53:44.000 I think we have probably ten years.

02:53:46.000 Ten years.

02:53:46.000 Sounds good.

02:53:47.000 That sounds about right.

02:53:48.000 Yeah.

02:53:48.000 Yeah, I feel like it's gonna creep in.

02:53:50.000 We're gonna realize how much safer it is. 1.00

02:53:53.000 Some assholes are gonna fuck up with manual. 1.00

02:53:55.000 They're gonna crash into a school or something like that. 1.00

02:53:57.000 Yeah.

02:53:58.000 And then people are gonna go, enough with the manual.

02:54:00.000 Enough! 1.00

02:54:01.000 I know, yeah.

02:54:01.000 Or they'll do semi-manual.

02:54:03.000 Like, you can steer, you can drive within certain parameters, but if the computer senses you're going off the rails, it'll fuckin' guide the car back.

02:54:11.000 Well, you know, that's why it's so, there's such a demand for really old cars that have, like, tactile feedback.

02:54:18.000 They're so expensive.

02:54:20.000 Like, if you buy a 1973 Porsche, which is only about, like, 150, 200 horsepower engine, if those things are in good shape, they're worth a fuckload of money now.

02:54:31.000 True.

02:54:32.000 Because you feel everything when you're driving that thing.

02:54:34.000 Yeah, totally.

02:54:35.000 You feel every bump that you drive over.

02:54:37.000 There's no power steering at all.

02:54:40.000 So you feel every turn on the steering wheel.

02:54:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:54:43.000 You feel the force against the wheel as opposed to an interpretation.

02:54:47.000 And when you turn hard, it's harder to turn.

02:54:49.000 Yeah, way harder, yeah.

02:54:50.000 You feel it.

02:54:51.000 You got to be present with it every moment.

02:54:53.000 Whereas with new power steering, you could kind of be absent-minded and be taking a pretty hard corner, which is easy to roll the car.

02:55:00.000 Well, difference in also the newest power steering, even opposed to the last generations, now they do power steering that's electric.

02:55:06.000 Yeah, it's fly-by-wire.

02:55:07.000 So you don't feel anything.

02:55:09.000 Whereas the hydraulic gave you varying feedback depending on how much load was on.

02:55:13.000 Yeah, or rack and pinion.

02:55:14.000 I always loved rack.

02:55:15.000 I thought that was the perfect happy medium.

02:55:18.000 Yeah.

02:55:18.000 Because I was like...

02:55:19.000 Well, those really old cars were so light, like those old Porsches and old BMWs like the BMW 2002, those little tiny boxy things.

02:55:28.000 They were so light, you didn't have to have power steering.

02:55:31.000 What people are doing now is they're pulling the transmissions and engines and replacing them with electric.

02:55:39.000 So you still have the road feel and the handling of it.

02:55:43.000 But you get the batteries.

02:55:43.000 But you get the batteries, so you don't get...

02:55:45.000 I mean, it's not loud, but you get this great fusion of, like, you've got the classic car look, but you've got the speed and the pickup.

02:55:52.000 So you've got, like, this little tiny BMW 2002, and you're doing 0-16 3.5 seconds.

02:55:58.000 I saw somebody did that with a 1965 Mustang. 0.98

02:56:01.000 They took a 65 Mustang and turned it into an electric car, and it was like stupid fast. 1.00

02:56:06.000 It's a beast. 0.99

02:56:07.000 I know the one you're talking about.

02:56:08.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

02:56:09.000 You're looking at this classic old-school muscle car, and yet it has like a Tesla underbody.

02:56:14.000 Yeah, it's like an electric muscle car.

02:56:16.000 Yeah, it's nuts, man.

02:56:17.000 I mean, Rimac.

02:56:18.000 Do you know that car brand?

02:56:20.000 No, what's that?

02:56:20.000 Rimac or Rimac.

02:56:22.000 How do you call that?

02:56:23.000 I think it's Estonian R-I-M-A-C. They make this electric car, four electric motors, motor for each wheel. 0.86

02:56:31.000 It's got over a thousand horsepower.

02:56:33.000 Jesus!

02:56:33.000 Zero to sixty and 3.2?

02:56:36.000 Something like that?

02:56:37.000 3.1?

02:56:38.000 Jesus!

02:56:38.000 Maybe even faster than that.

02:56:40.000 Oh no, no, no, no, no.

02:56:42.000 2.3?

02:56:44.000 That thing's insane looking. 0.95

02:56:46.000 Because my car does 2.3.

02:56:47.000 What car do you have?

02:56:50.000 Tesla P100D. Damn, son. 1.00

02:56:52.000 Look at this thing. 1.00

02:56:53.000 This thing's beautiful.

02:56:54.000 It looks like one of those Lexus coupes.

02:56:57.000 Those new Lexus coupes.

02:56:59.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:57:00.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

02:57:01.000 That's amazing. 1.00

02:57:03.000 Yeah, see if they can have like a... 0.97

02:57:04.000 Yeah, there you go.

02:57:04.000 Look at the...

02:57:05.000 That thing's beautiful.

02:57:07.000 Yeah it's like it's crazy and so it does uh it it definitely does um vector steering and vector power power power distribution so those things are gorgeous it can corner like a motherfucker and because the computer's monitoring traction all the time if to each wheel with an electric motor that has instantaneous torque you're able to steer the car with acceleration whoa so if you're coming around a corner Depending on the mode and the way that you're driving,

02:57:35.000 you can actually push the car around the corner with the wheels using the input from the steering wheel.

02:57:41.000 So you're directional steering but also vectral steering at the same time.

02:57:44.000 Whoa! 0.82

02:57:45.000 So that car is disgusting.

02:57:48.000 It's just leaving this Tesla behind.

02:57:51.000 Not just leaving it, leaving it like it's parked. 0.97

02:57:53.000 Yeah, and this guy actually does some good shit and so on. 0.89

02:57:57.000 There's some young rich guys that are always doing car stuff, but I like that guy. 0.94

02:58:00.000 He's going to race a Ferrari?

02:58:01.000 Oh, you know, he's going to bury that Ferrari.

02:58:03.000 Oh, no, the Ferrari's history.

02:58:05.000 Is that a LaFerrari?

02:58:06.000 Yeah, that's whatever that is.

02:58:09.000 Yeah, it's a Ferrari LaFerrari, which is a hybrid.

02:58:12.000 That's why it has those crazy...

02:58:13.000 The Rimac...

02:58:14.000 No, the Rimac's gonna win.

02:58:16.000 I know it.

02:58:17.000 Really?

02:58:17.000 I think so.

02:58:18.000 Let's see.

02:58:19.000 Three, two, one, go.

02:58:21.000 Oh my god.

02:58:23.000 Off the line, instantaneously.

02:58:24.000 Not even close.

02:58:26.000 Let's just see you later.

02:58:27.000 I mean, it's a linear power curve.

02:58:30.000 Right.

02:58:31.000 It's an absolute curve.

02:58:33.000 It's a curve.

02:58:34.000 It's just a perfect curve of absolute power.

02:58:36.000 That's insane.

02:58:37.000 Now, where does one get one of these Remax?

02:58:40.000 How far can they drive?

02:58:42.000 100 yards.

02:58:43.000 Yeah, totally.

02:58:44.000 It can go 200 feet per charge.

02:58:47.000 Find out how long those things drive for.

02:58:49.000 Let's take a guess.

02:58:50.000 I say they have 220 miles on them.

02:58:53.000 What do you say?

02:58:53.000 I'm gonna say...

02:58:55.000 I'm gonna say 180 miles.

02:58:57.000 200 miles to 200 miles.

02:58:59.000 You went lowball.

02:59:00.000 I thought you were gonna go highball on me.

02:59:01.000 Top end of 225 or something like that.

02:59:04.000 Which for an electric car is a huge deal.

02:59:06.000 What's your Tesla get?

02:59:06.000 What's the longest distance you could drive?

02:59:10.000 340? 0.78

02:59:10.000 That's pretty goddamn good. 0.78

02:59:12.000 Something like that? 0.90

02:59:12.000 Or 3... 0.90

02:59:12.000 What did you think about when Tesla, when they, like, had a bunch of people, what does it say? 0.90

02:59:18.000 2.82 kilowatt can give the concept...

02:59:20.000 205 miles.

02:59:21.000 Yeah.

02:59:22.000 That's conceptual driving.

02:59:24.000 The drive cycle, yeah.

02:59:26.000 So if you're driving like a maniac...

02:59:27.000 I'm gonna say 150. Yeah, maybe not even, right?

02:59:29.000 Yeah, 140. What did you think about, like, during the hurricane in Florida, Tesla released a bunch of these cars that had restrictions on the amount of distance they could drive?

02:59:42.000 Oh! 0.60

02:59:43.000 Yeah, and so they did it remotely, and they gave these cars more of a distance.

02:59:48.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:59:49.000 They control speed, probably govern top speed?

02:59:51.000 No, I think they actually literally have a threshold of how far they're, like, you could pay more when you buy them.

02:59:58.000 So, like, if you buy one, you could have the option to have a 250-mile gas tank or a 350-mile gas tank.

03:00:04.000 Oh, they would just unlock the capability?

03:00:06.000 Yeah, exactly.

03:00:06.000 Interesting.

03:00:07.000 So the same kilowatt battery, size kilowatt battery.

03:00:10.000 Yeah.

03:00:10.000 I don't know about that.

03:00:11.000 I don't like that.

03:00:11.000 It's weird, right?

03:00:12.000 I think as long as the battery system is modular, so that you can add or take away from it without huge manufacturing costs of changing the shape of the battery, which is what Tesla does, you can either elongate the body of the car and then add more packs, or you can shorten the body of the car,

03:00:28.000 narrow it, less packs.

03:00:29.000 But I think it should just be packs. 0.99

03:00:31.000 You're just fucking people over. 0.97

03:00:32.000 I just don't think it's cool. 0.99

03:00:33.000 Because you have the capability.

03:00:34.000 It's just a software thing.

03:00:35.000 It's not going to cost any extra money.

03:00:37.000 Unless the idea...

03:00:38.000 But it's so weird.

03:00:39.000 It's like, well, then why not just make a competitive lease for the battery capacity that you want?

03:00:44.000 Or, they're like, buy it for a small price now, and if you want to pay more later, we can unlock more battery potential.

03:00:51.000 Yeah, but here's the problem.

03:00:52.000 Instead of, like, say if you buy an engine, and it has 800 horsepower, and then there's another option, you could buy the V6, and that only has 350 horsepower.

03:01:00.000 Psych!

03:01:01.000 We're kidding.

03:01:01.000 The V6 has 800 horsepower.

03:01:03.000 We're not going to let you use it, because you're not paying us.

03:01:05.000 That's really what it is.

03:01:06.000 Sure.

03:01:06.000 It's because it's the same exact battery pack.

03:01:09.000 Yeah, I don't like that.

03:01:10.000 That I don't like.

03:01:11.000 That doesn't make any sense.

03:01:13.000 It's weird.

03:01:13.000 They've intentionally crippled some of their cars, and the other ones, they've given you an option to not cripple, but we want you to pay more.

03:01:20.000 Well, you know.

03:01:21.000 But you have the same exact hardware.

03:01:22.000 It's an in-app purchase.

03:01:24.000 Well, it is kind of, but it's way different because you're talking about like a physical.

03:01:29.000 It's like almost like your phone.

03:01:31.000 You have to pay more and your phone has 250 gigabytes versus 100. Totally.

03:01:35.000 That's really what it is.

03:01:36.000 Well, yeah, but it's like also the same as like getting a video game and you're like, I've got the video game.

03:01:40.000 And they're like, would you like to unlock more content?

03:01:41.000 Yeah, but see, that's a journey you're on, right?

03:01:43.000 Your video game is a portal to a journey.

03:01:45.000 This is a physical device that has the capability to drive 350 miles.

03:01:49.000 Like, nah, you can't have those 350. I'll give you two.

03:01:52.000 Well, also, realistically, I'm only driving like maybe 30 miles a day.

03:01:58.000 Yeah, but that doesn't matter.

03:01:59.000 But I'm just saying, like, if the idea was like, you could in the future.

03:02:03.000 Well, see, it doesn't make sense.

03:02:05.000 I don't know.

03:02:05.000 Is that a real thing?

03:02:07.000 It's a real thing. 1.00

03:02:08.000 It's stupid. 1.00

03:02:09.000 It just doesn't make any sense. 1.00

03:02:10.000 It's gross.

03:02:10.000 It's like you don't need to do that.

03:02:10.000 Well, it makes sense if you want to make money.

03:02:12.000 Well, I guess if you just want to, like, unify the manufacturing process so that you can create a higher yield or something like that.

03:02:18.000 Dude, you're looking at it like the man.

03:02:20.000 You sound like the man to me. 0.99

03:02:21.000 I'm looking at it as the Johnny Blue Collar consumer, and I'm fucking pissed. 0.99

03:02:26.000 Hey, I am pissed at you. 0.99

03:02:28.000 You know, I'm just saying. 0.74

03:02:29.000 I'm just saying.

03:02:30.000 I understand. 1.00

03:02:31.000 We're going to wrap this bitch up. 1.00

03:02:33.000 You guys want to say? 0.99

03:02:34.000 Let's wrap it out.

03:02:35.000 This is awesome, man.

03:02:36.000 I know people were talking a long time.

03:02:38.000 They were like, oh, you should be on his show.

03:02:39.000 You should be on his show.

03:02:40.000 Well, you know, you and I ran into each other the first time we ever met on a plane.

03:02:44.000 Remember that?

03:02:45.000 Oh, yeah.

03:02:45.000 We were flying to London or something together.

03:02:47.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

03:02:49.000 Just randomly.

03:02:50.000 International plane.

03:02:51.000 We were like one seat ahead of each other.

03:02:52.000 We took selfies.

03:02:53.000 I put the selfie on Instagram. 1.00

03:02:55.000 Remember that shit? 1.00

03:02:55.000 That's right. 1.00

03:02:56.000 That was a long time ago, man.

03:02:57.000 That was a long time ago, yeah.

03:02:58.000 I think it was you, me, and Tony Hinchcliffe.

03:03:00.000 Oh my god.

03:03:01.000 Wow, that was a while ago.

03:03:03.000 A long time ago.

03:03:03.000 I think we were on our way somewhere in Europe.

03:03:07.000 I want to say...

03:03:09.000 I don't know where I've ever been.

03:03:10.000 Look at that!

03:03:11.000 That's us!

03:03:12.000 Where were we on the way to?

03:03:14.000 From London to LA. From London to LA, okay.

03:03:17.000 Just randomly...

03:03:18.000 That's so crazy.

03:03:19.000 Crazy.

03:03:20.000 Time travel, man.

03:03:21.000 Time travel.

03:03:22.000 What year was that, young Jamie?

03:03:23.000 January 2015. Crazy.

03:03:26.000 Just think at the moment we took that picture, we were simultaneously talking about this moment, reflecting on this picture. 0.80

03:03:33.000 Crazy, man.

03:03:34.000 So in a way, we were time traveling. 0.82

03:03:37.000 We were.

03:03:38.000 We were time traveling.

03:03:39.000 And we were on a time travel ship.

03:03:40.000 Anyways.

03:03:41.000 We're stoked.

03:03:42.000 And now, we're done.

03:03:44.000 Say goodbye.

03:03:46.000 Goodbye, everyone.

03:03:47.000 Sleep well.

03:03:48.000 Goodbye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - September 26, 2017

Joe Rogan Experience #1015 - Reggie Watts

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