The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1018 - Alonzo Bodden

00:00:00.000 And less gay. 0.91

00:00:01.000 Ah! 0.96

00:00:06.000 Boom, ladies and gentlemen. 0.97

00:00:07.000 And we're live, Alonzo Bowden.

00:00:09.000 How are you, man?

00:00:10.000 What is up, Joe?

00:00:11.000 I'm great, man.

00:00:12.000 Somber times. 0.99

00:00:12.000 These are the weirdest fucking times ever. 0.99

00:00:15.000 R.I.P. to Tom Petty. 0.99

00:00:17.000 I guess we have to say that, too.

00:00:18.000 Yeah.

00:00:19.000 And then, obviously... 0.81

00:00:20.000 It's a ridiculous time. 0.81

00:00:22.000 And like everyone's been saying... 0.96

00:00:25.000 Again.

00:00:26.000 You know what I mean?

00:00:27.000 It's like, here we go again.

00:00:28.000 Another mass shooting.

00:00:32.000 I think the most disturbing graphic to me was the scorecard.

00:00:37.000 They showed this guy got 58, and then the guy in Orlando got, what, 40-something.

00:00:43.000 Because it's like, okay, you just encouraged the next psycho to try to set the record.

00:00:50.000 You know what I mean?

00:00:51.000 It shouldn't be...

00:00:53.000 There has to be another way to say it without giving publicity to he killed more than anybody else.

00:00:59.000 Well, for everybody who's listening in the future, this is taking place, we're recording this on Tuesday.

00:01:05.000 The massacre happened in Las Vegas.

00:01:09.000 On Sunday, so it's just a couple days ago, and we were just going over all the details of it.

00:01:14.000 I'm reading online here. 0.97

00:01:16.000 Killed 59 people, injured 527, which is just fucking completely insane. 0.97

00:01:22.000 I mean, 527 people shot, is that right? 0.99

00:01:27.000 Or is that like, does that count people trampled?

00:01:30.000 I think it includes people trampled and injured otherwise, but there were a hell of a lot of people shot.

00:01:35.000 I mean, he opened up with automatic weapons into a crowd of thousands of people to where probably, you know, did any bullet hit the ground?

00:01:43.000 Like, there were so many people at this thing.

00:01:46.000 That every bullet probably hits somebody.

00:01:49.000 Yeah, probably.

00:01:50.000 Or more than one person.

00:01:51.000 I don't know the power of the ballistics of the weapon, but definitely bullets could have went through one guy into the next person.

00:02:00.000 100%.

00:02:00.000 I'm sure they did.

00:02:02.000 100%.

00:02:04.000 This guy, first of all, this becomes a big gun control argument, which it should be, right? 0.57

00:02:11.000 But one thing that we've got to really take into consideration is he had illegal guns.

00:02:15.000 These guns were illegal, I think, for 25 years.

00:02:18.000 So this isn't...

00:02:20.000 I don't know how much of this could have been helped by making it more illegal.

00:02:24.000 Yeah, you know, that's always a debate.

00:02:27.000 The first problem is what was going on yesterday when they say this is not the time to talk about guns.

00:02:34.000 Of course it is.

00:02:35.000 Yeah, of course.

00:02:36.000 It's the exact time to talk about guns.

00:02:39.000 I'm not a gun guy in the sense that I'm not a gun owner, but I get it.

00:02:43.000 With guys who are into guns, I always compare it to my love of cars and bikes or anything mechanical or whatever.

00:02:50.000 I understand it.

00:02:51.000 But most of the people I talk to who love guns don't have a problem with registration, certainly don't have a problem with education, and what I call common sense gun ownership.

00:03:04.000 And there are some guns that I get it.

00:03:07.000 There are some guns that...

00:03:09.000 You know, and again, I'm not speaking with any expertise, but from the layman's point of view, it's like, why do you need this semi-automatic military-style weapon And, you know, don't tell me you have it for hunting or anything else.

00:03:25.000 Like, if there's a reason you want to collect it, just like if there's a reason you want to own a race car, right, and somebody says, why do you need a car that does 200 miles an hour?

00:03:33.000 Well, you may have a reason you want that race car, but you don't use it on the street.

00:03:37.000 You can't take it, you know, onto the streets.

00:03:40.000 And I think that should be...

00:03:43.000 That there should be some kind of rule with that kind of weapon.

00:03:46.000 But here's the thing, it doesn't matter if there's a rule.

00:03:48.000 There were plenty of rules.

00:03:49.000 This guy violated all the rules.

00:03:52.000 This guy did, but I'm just talking about the general attitude towards sales.

00:03:56.000 Just the idea that you can walk into a store...

00:04:01.000 And buy these weapons.

00:04:02.000 It should somehow be more difficult to, you know, and again, this is my opinion, right?

00:04:08.000 But I think it should be more difficult to buy a weapon of that type.

00:04:12.000 Yeah, well, these are all illegal weapons.

00:04:13.000 This guy shot people with illegal...

00:04:16.000 Yeah, he converted them to fully automatic, and fully automatic's illegal everywhere, right? 0.98

00:04:19.000 Here's what's fucked up about this guy. 0.80

00:04:20.000 This guy didn't have a criminal record. 0.98

00:04:22.000 He had no army training, no religious or political affiliations.

00:04:27.000 No one has any idea what his motives were.

00:04:29.000 He was wealthy.

00:04:30.000 He's a big-time high roller, which is how he got this giant suite in Vegas. 0.99

00:04:34.000 I mean, it is fucking bizarre. 0.96

00:04:37.000 Did you see his brother get interviewed? 0.98

00:04:39.000 Yeah.

00:04:39.000 Yeah, and it's...

00:04:41.000 Well, it's...

00:04:42.000 That's the thing about this.

00:04:44.000 That's the thing about this kind of insanity, right?

00:04:46.000 There is usually no outward...

00:04:49.000 Like, how many people are like this in this country that we don't know about?

00:04:53.000 You know what I mean?

00:04:54.000 That have...

00:04:56.000 And particularly if you're wealthy.

00:04:57.000 If you're wealthy, it's so much easier to hide it, right?

00:05:00.000 Because you may have a big house.

00:05:02.000 You may have a compound.

00:05:04.000 You may have a camp.

00:05:06.000 A place you go camping in the woods that's actually stocked with, you know, a hundred weapons or something like that.

00:05:12.000 I mean, the randomness of this, to me, that is the biggest horror. 0.99

00:05:17.000 The worst thing about this to me is just the idea, like, you went to a fucking concert. 0.99

00:05:23.000 Like, that's all you did. 1.00

00:05:24.000 You went to a concert in Vegas, and you're never coming home.

00:05:27.000 Your family's destroyed, everything.

00:05:30.000 I mean...

00:05:31.000 And that is the utter randomness of it that you can't control.

00:05:35.000 Well, that's what's terrifying about it.

00:05:37.000 Which is really strange to me, the definition of terrorist.

00:05:40.000 Nobody's calling this guy a terrorist.

00:05:43.000 Do you have to be political or religious to be a terrorist?

00:05:47.000 I don't think so.

00:05:48.000 How is this guy not a terrorist?

00:05:49.000 Yeah, this is definitely terror.

00:05:51.000 This is definitely terror.

00:05:52.000 You know why it's terror?

00:05:54.000 Because now...

00:05:56.000 Are you going to go to a big event in Vegas?

00:05:58.000 Are you going to go to a big outdoor concert?

00:06:00.000 You know, Vegas does these music festivals.

00:06:02.000 Especially a big outdoor concert that's in front of these towers.

00:06:04.000 Right.

00:06:04.000 Where someone could do something like this.

00:06:06.000 And the pools.

00:06:07.000 You know, they have those giant EDM parties at the pools all summer that are literally surrounded by the tower of whatever hotel you're in.

00:06:15.000 So that's why it's terror, because now you have to be afraid to do that.

00:06:21.000 Well, not only that, like, this now, they're going to have... 0.92

00:06:25.000 Some sort of screening when you go into hotels, which, by the way, why the fuck didn't they have them already? 0.72

00:06:31.000 I've always thought this, like, the airports are so stringent. 1.00

00:06:34.000 Like, you go through the airports, they check your dick. 0.99

00:06:37.000 They literally will pat your dick if you hit a random, you know? 1.00

00:06:40.000 Bing! 1.00

00:06:40.000 I'm sorry, sorry, we gotta check your dick. 1.00

00:06:42.000 You're random. 1.00

00:06:42.000 And they literally put the back of their hand, which is really odd to me, that it's okay to touch your dick with the back of your hand. 1.00

00:06:50.000 It's like the less sensitive. 1.00

00:06:51.000 Well, they get to smooth your dick down. 1.00

00:06:53.000 They get to smooth it down. 1.00

00:06:55.000 Yeah.

00:06:55.000 But it's so weird.

00:06:57.000 Like, it's okay, sir. 1.00

00:06:58.000 I'm just using the back of my hand to touch your dick. 1.00

00:07:00.000 They might have had them grabbing and some guy was just like, I'm not grabbing a hard dick. 1.00

00:07:06.000 I doubt it was them. 0.98

00:07:07.000 They got a union.

00:07:08.000 I doubt it was the other guy. 0.99

00:07:08.000 Like, I'm not getting my dick hard. 0.99

00:07:10.000 By some guy who's looking for a weapon. 0.99

00:07:13.000 It's just weird that they can do that.

00:07:16.000 But if you go through the airport, right, like airports, we've decided, are places where terror exists, right?

00:07:22.000 So you have, like, I have TSA Pre.

00:07:26.000 Yeah, me too.

00:07:26.000 And I have, I'm a global entry guy.

00:07:29.000 Global entry and all of that, yeah.

00:07:30.000 And I have Clear.

00:07:31.000 So you could, Clear's the best.

00:07:33.000 Clear is best where it works.

00:07:34.000 You know, where it works.

00:07:36.000 Where they have it, rather.

00:07:36.000 Yeah, where they have it.

00:07:37.000 Yeah, you just put your fingers down.

00:07:38.000 Bam! 0.98

00:07:39.000 It's got a picture of you, go right through.

00:07:40.000 It takes two seconds, right?

00:07:42.000 But that's just a place where we've decided you have terror, right?

00:07:46.000 And now, are we going to decide that you have terror everywhere?

00:07:49.000 No, I don't think so.

00:07:51.000 I mean, for one thing, I'm not buying into the hotel argument.

00:07:55.000 Like, there's a bigger issue here than the hotels.

00:07:58.000 And the issue is the weapons and what can we do about the...

00:08:03.000 Say it.

00:08:04.000 Proliferation of weapons.

00:08:06.000 Proliferation. 0.52

00:08:06.000 Proliferation of weapons. 0.52

00:08:08.000 Yes, sorry about that.

00:08:09.000 It's early.

00:08:09.000 You start a word and you go, uh-oh, I'm too deep into this word.

00:08:12.000 I got too deep into a word.

00:08:14.000 Now there's no backing out. 1.00

00:08:16.000 All the damn weapons. 1.00

00:08:17.000 No, but that's the issue. 1.00

00:08:18.000 The thing about hotels, though, and this being the United States, the privacy issue is huge, right?

00:08:24.000 Your hotel room is basically your home away from home.

00:08:27.000 When do you get, what are the privacy rules of checking what you bring into a hotel, what's in your hotel room?

00:08:34.000 Remember the stoplight cameras, right?

00:08:38.000 Yes.

00:08:39.000 And they got sued and people got in trouble because they got that picture taken and the wrong person was in their car, right?

00:08:46.000 That chick wasn't his wife. 1.00

00:08:48.000 Is that what it was?

00:08:48.000 Yeah, or this guy wasn't his husband.

00:08:50.000 One guy sued and Because the picture was taken.

00:08:54.000 The woman wasn't his wife. 0.99

00:08:55.000 They send the ticket to your house.

00:08:56.000 Bam! 0.98

00:08:57.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:08:59.000 And he won the suit in the sense that there's a level of privacy that's expected in your car.

00:09:06.000 Let me stop you there.

00:09:07.000 Do you understand why it's illegal, though?

00:09:09.000 Because it's a third party.

00:09:11.000 It's not actually even the government.

00:09:12.000 They farmed it off.

00:09:13.000 So you have some other company that's sending you a ticket and charging you money.

00:09:17.000 Right.

00:09:18.000 And everybody was like, well, you guys are hiring people to do this?

00:09:22.000 Yeah, they're commissioning a place to write tickets.

00:09:25.000 But what they had to do, they had to re-aim the cameras to only hit the license plate.

00:09:29.000 But that's not true, because I got one the other day.

00:09:31.000 And you showed you?

00:09:32.000 Yeah, they sent me a picture of me, smiling.

00:09:34.000 Well, it's not supposed to.

00:09:35.000 I got a little cocky, tried to go right on red, and it flashed me.

00:09:39.000 But the point being, in your hotel room, there's an expectation of privacy.

00:09:44.000 Right.

00:09:45.000 And...

00:09:46.000 Where is that line drawn?

00:09:48.000 Well, it's going to have to be drawn in Vegas because people get freaky in Vegas.

00:09:52.000 Yeah.

00:09:52.000 Right?

00:09:53.000 The other big difference, and I'll tell you a Vegas story about that that's great I heard, but the other big difference is when you're on an airplane, you're trapped in that airplane.

00:10:03.000 When you're in a hotel, you can run.

00:10:05.000 You know what I mean?

00:10:06.000 You can run down the stairs.

00:10:08.000 Can you really, though?

00:10:10.000 Compared to being in an airplane.

00:10:11.000 Yeah, but I don't think it's a valid comparison, honestly.

00:10:14.000 I mean, you're still in a box.

00:10:16.000 You're still in this big building.

00:10:17.000 You're in a confined space, but I think it's easier to escape.

00:10:20.000 Now, the thing about Vegas, this guy told me, who was a security guy, he said, the thing about the cameras is you see who's with who. 0.98

00:10:29.000 And there was one particular guy, he kept bringing transgender hookers to his room. 1.00

00:10:34.000 And they knew who he was. 0.99

00:10:36.000 He was a famous guy.

00:10:38.000 And they were like, yeah, we could destroy this guy if we wanted.

00:10:43.000 Because they got cameras everywhere in Vegas.

00:10:45.000 They know who's coming upstairs to your room.

00:10:47.000 They know what room they're going to.

00:10:49.000 So he's getting super obvious transgender ones? 1.00

00:10:51.000 Yeah, like the giant ones. 0.97

00:10:52.000 Football player dude, size 18 feet.

00:10:56.000 Guys built like you, with dresses on.

00:10:59.000 So, you know, so I had to give up that hobby.

00:11:02.000 No, I'm kidding.

00:11:02.000 I'm kidding.

00:11:03.000 That's the only thing from this podcast that's going to go out viral.

00:11:06.000 We knew it!

00:11:09.000 Well, here's another thing that is a giant issue that I haven't ever discussed at all.

00:11:15.000 Mental health.

00:11:16.000 I mean, this is really what this is all about.

00:11:18.000 I mean, this is a gun issue in the sense that he used guns, but then is it a truck issue in Nice, France, where that guy just drove into those people? 0.64

00:11:26.000 I mean, there's a ton of different ways to kill people, and I'm sure we're going to see more of these fucked up ways in the future, but the real issue is a mental health issue. 0.99

00:11:37.000 This guy's dad was a psychopath. 0.99

00:11:40.000 He was a serial bank robber. 0.97

00:11:42.000 He spent eight years on the FBI's most wanted list.

00:11:46.000 Here's the question, right?

00:11:47.000 Is that genetic?

00:11:50.000 Does that transfer over?

00:11:52.000 Like, how does that work?

00:11:53.000 It could be genetic, or it could be that psychological thing of, I want to outdo my dad.

00:12:00.000 This guy could be, I mean, no, this guy's a millionaire, right, and so on.

00:12:04.000 So he's obviously a high achiever, but he could have that hole.

00:12:09.000 I'm not kidding, he could have that hole where he always wanted to do something Bigger than his dad or he wanted some approval, you know what I mean?

00:12:16.000 Some weird kind of approval thing.

00:12:19.000 Yeah, I guess that's just speculation, right?

00:12:21.000 Yeah, I mean you could speculate a bunch.

00:12:24.000 Our mental health issue, just the health issue in this country, that's a show unto itself, right?

00:12:30.000 We don't take care of ourselves.

00:12:32.000 We don't take care of people.

00:12:33.000 We don't provide For the mental health problem, you look downtown in any city in America, wandering the streets, homeless.

00:12:43.000 You got schizophrenics and all kind of people, and God forbid, they got weapons. 0.95

00:12:49.000 You talk about the other ways.

00:12:52.000 I'm sure there are attacks that we just don't hear about, where some guy goes nuts with a knife or a broken bottle or whatever else.

00:13:00.000 I mean, that's one of the big things that happens in places that have stricter gun control.

00:13:04.000 And the argument would be that, hey, you know, that's safer for the people.

00:13:08.000 It's easier to handle.

00:13:09.000 There's, you know, more things that you can do.

00:13:12.000 Some guy with a machine gun gunning down all these people.

00:13:15.000 But again, gun control is not really going to help this.

00:13:19.000 This guy was using illegal guns.

00:13:21.000 I mean, the issue at this point...

00:13:23.000 Is that there's so many guns out there.

00:13:26.000 Like, even if you made guns illegal, are we gonna sweep?

00:13:29.000 Are we gonna go house to house?

00:13:31.000 And if we do sweep and go house to house, man, people are gonna resist that.

00:13:36.000 Because for every one of these psychopaths that winds up shooting people and gunning someone down...

00:13:43.000 There's going to be genuine, normal people that want a gun to protect their family.

00:13:48.000 Maybe they live in a sketchy neighborhood, and then all of a sudden the government comes along and says, well, now it's illegal for you to possess that gun.

00:13:54.000 Well, then who has guns?

00:13:55.000 People who are already criminals.

00:13:57.000 See, I think the solution is in between, and I think this is another one where we get, you know, this is a problem we have, and I can't even say when it started, when you have the two sides and it's either or, so it's either, you know, no gun regulations or Far too many gun regulations,

00:14:14.000 and I think the solution's somewhere in between.

00:14:16.000 In my opinion, it's always been like, why can't we treat them like cars?

00:14:20.000 Like, when you buy a car, you register the car, right?

00:14:23.000 So the government knows, like, Joe has this car, right?

00:14:27.000 And then when you have to have insurance in case something goes wrong with the car and you hurt somebody, and then if you sell the car to me, You tell the government, hey, I just sold the car to Alonzo.

00:14:38.000 I'm no longer liable for this car.

00:14:41.000 Alonzo's liable for this car.

00:14:42.000 And I've always thought that would be the level of common sense gun registration.

00:14:49.000 Well, here's another one that goes along with that.

00:14:50.000 With guns, you don't really have to know how to use them. 0.98

00:14:52.000 This is one of the really fucked up things about guns. 0.75

00:14:55.000 If you drive a car, you have to take tests, you have to pass, you have to understand the registration, the rules, rather. 0.95

00:15:02.000 I mean, you have to go and a guy has to sit next to you.

00:15:05.000 You have to go through a driver's test.

00:15:07.000 And I don't see why we can't do that with guns.

00:15:09.000 You should absolutely have that with guns.

00:15:10.000 Where you have to go to a range and show, you know, like the safety of using a gun and how to shoot it.

00:15:16.000 Yeah.

00:15:17.000 You know, I don't see why we can't do that.

00:15:19.000 And even if your family teaches you, right?

00:15:21.000 They say like in a lot of places you grow up with guns and as a kid your dad teaches you.

00:15:25.000 Well, if your dad teaches you to drive, you still have to go to DMV and take the test.

00:15:30.000 So it's like your dad, your mom, whoever, your uncle could teach you to shoot.

00:15:34.000 But you still, there should be some...

00:15:37.000 Some level of testing to get an idea.

00:15:40.000 Because we have, you know, just a couple of weeks ago where you had a four-year-old in Florida who was looking in their grandmother's purse for candy and shot themselves.

00:15:51.000 And it's like, Grandma, there's a safety issue with the gun.

00:15:55.000 Like, you don't tell the kid to go get some candy when you know you have a gun.

00:15:59.000 I think there's a nutty number, like 21 people a year killed in this country by armed toddlers.

00:16:05.000 Yeah, yeah, I believe it.

00:16:06.000 I believe it.

00:16:07.000 Find out what the number is.

00:16:08.000 I think it's 21 people are shot to death by babies.

00:16:12.000 Yeah, and the other thing is, and you brought it up, like how, okay, if we didn't have guns, then they'd be killing, you know, with knives or clubs or something.

00:16:19.000 Like, just that idea that we have to have that discussion, like, well, what weapon are the mass killers going to use?

00:16:25.000 That in itself is insane.

00:16:27.000 Right.

00:16:28.000 Just the fact that we're like, yeah, we're going to have these mass killers.

00:16:31.000 We got to...

00:16:32.000 Have them working with different weapons.

00:16:34.000 I don't know.

00:16:36.000 On the mental health, I'm not even going to pretend to have the expertise to talk about what it is.

00:16:42.000 But it's an issue that we don't spend money on.

00:16:44.000 It's an issue not covered by a lot of insurance.

00:16:48.000 A lot of insurance doesn't cover any kind of mental health care.

00:16:52.000 Here's the thing.

00:16:53.000 Even if it does cover, I mean, a giant percentage of the people that commit these giant mass shootings are either on psychoactive medication or are having withdrawals from psychoactive medication.

00:17:06.000 So even if your insurance covers it, even if you're medicated by a doctor, There's a disassociative quality apparently with a lot of these antidepressants and antipsychotic medications that people take that with the right combination of biology, circumstances,

00:17:21.000 genetics, whatever it is, people just can snap.

00:17:26.000 And they don't have an issue.

00:17:27.000 I mean, what are the numbers of people that are on that stuff?

00:17:29.000 A giant number.

00:17:30.000 What are the numbers of people that actually wind up and go and do shootings?

00:17:34.000 Much, much, much, much, much smaller number. 0.99

00:17:37.000 But it's enough that if it happens once a year, like Orlando last year and then this year in Vegas, I mean, what the fuck? 0.98

00:17:44.000 Again, we don't know why this guy did this. 0.98

00:17:46.000 We have no idea if he was on anything. 0.98

00:17:48.000 But what the fuck is it That we have to do to stop this stuff from happening. 0.95

00:17:53.000 Well, I mean, I'm sure there are scientists who study it and all, but I can't imagine you can predict it. 0.99

00:17:59.000 People are getting shot by toddlers on a weekly basis this year.

00:18:03.000 Jesus Christ.

00:18:04.000 13 toddlers killed themselves, 18 more injured themselves, 10 injured other people, 2 killed other people.

00:18:11.000 That was from 2015. Toddlers have killed at least, shot at least 23 people this year.

00:18:20.000 Jesus fucking Christ! 1.00

00:18:23.000 Oh my god. 1.00

00:18:26.000 Okay, so we cannot match that with an argument of toddler drivers having run over people.

00:18:31.000 No.

00:18:32.000 Well, irresponsible gun owners.

00:18:34.000 That is.

00:18:35.000 And again, that gets back to what you're saying.

00:18:38.000 The education, like learn to own a gun safely to keep it somewhere where a toddler's not going to get to it.

00:18:44.000 Well, everything.

00:18:45.000 Everything dangerous safely.

00:18:47.000 You know?

00:18:47.000 Everything.

00:18:48.000 And isn't it funny how, you know, we do kid-proof a house?

00:18:52.000 Like, you know, they have the plastic things that go into the electrical sockets and the poison and this and that.

00:18:59.000 What about the gun?

00:19:00.000 Eh, throw it in a candy drawer. 1.00

00:19:03.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of responsible gun owners. 0.97

00:19:08.000 I don't mean to laugh, but I mean, I'm laughing at the ridiculous stuff. 0.71

00:19:10.000 And that is true.

00:19:11.000 And I think the vast majority of gun owners are responsible.

00:19:17.000 You know, it is another group.

00:19:19.000 That's painted with the broad brush, right? 0.92

00:19:21.000 That the few gun nuts, crazy, they paint every NRA member as being one of them.

00:19:28.000 And that isn't true.

00:19:29.000 You know, like I say, I know people who like guns and they're not that.

00:19:35.000 But the people who are not that have to accept the fact that there is a population that is that.

00:19:41.000 You know what I mean?

00:19:42.000 You can't say that they don't exist because they do exist.

00:19:45.000 So...

00:19:47.000 A big part of this, I think like any other issue, Joe, we got to start telling each other the truth.

00:19:53.000 You know what I mean?

00:19:54.000 About these issues.

00:19:57.000 Everyone has their side, right?

00:20:00.000 Or their tribe or their team.

00:20:02.000 And they refuse to believe any truth whatsoever.

00:20:06.000 You know, any negative truth about their team or whatever.

00:20:10.000 You know what I mean?

00:20:10.000 Like to say, well, like we were saying, like gun owners.

00:20:14.000 Okay, so there's responsible gun owners and then there's a few gun, I'll just use the term gun nuts.

00:20:20.000 And the responsible gun owners have to accept the fact that there are some gun nuts, right?

00:20:24.000 With the police.

00:20:25.000 The vast majority of police are good.

00:20:28.000 But the good police have to say, yeah, there are some bad cops too.

00:20:32.000 You know what I mean?

00:20:33.000 Like, within any tribe, we're comics.

00:20:37.000 We know there are some bad comics.

00:20:39.000 I don't know if you know it, Joe, but I'm going to put it out there.

00:20:41.000 I've heard of a few.

00:20:44.000 But until we do that, we can never have a real discussion, right?

00:20:49.000 Because everybody just suddenly circles the wagons around their herd and like, no, no, no, not me.

00:20:54.000 You know, it's like, no, we're not saying all of you are bad.

00:20:57.000 But let's admit within your group there is bad so we can work on that. 0.99

00:21:02.000 Yeah, I've seen some tweets from some NRA supporters the last day and a half that have just fucking stunned me, where just shut the fuck up, man. 0.99

00:21:10.000 Right! 1.00

00:21:10.000 Just realize where the state of all this is right now and shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:21:14.000 And by the way, there's a video that's going around that somebody's put up about me talking about gun control. 0.98

00:21:19.000 It is not a recent video.

00:21:20.000 I don't know when it's from, but people are putting it up now about me destroying the gun control argument.

00:21:27.000 It's it would be very insensitive for me to do that and to put that up right now and I didn't it had nothing to do with I don't know when it was I think was from a year or so ago, but But the idea that these people, these NRA supporters, would go and tweet these pro-gun messages and get crazy with it now is exactly what you're saying.

00:21:47.000 They're digging their heels in.

00:21:48.000 They're supporting their team.

00:21:49.000 Yeah, and as many people have been saying, and it is a sad truth, look, if we didn't wake up after Sandy Hook, then, you know, if when 20, what was it, 21 kids were shot...

00:22:03.000 And people denied that it happened.

00:22:05.000 Oh, that didn't even happen and all that.

00:22:07.000 That's the crazy one.

00:22:07.000 I mean, they're doing that now.

00:22:09.000 People are calling this a false flag.

00:22:10.000 Right.

00:22:10.000 So if that didn't wake us up, then, you know, 58 people at a music concert, I hate to say it, but it's like it's not going to wake us up.

00:22:21.000 You know, I have a thing.

00:22:23.000 Wait a minute.

00:22:23.000 What does waking us up mean?

00:22:24.000 You know, I mean...

00:22:25.000 Wake us up to the point of take some action.

00:22:28.000 Well, what's the action?

00:22:29.000 President Alonzo, what would you do?

00:22:31.000 The...

00:22:33.000 Well, to start with, we have to have the conversation.

00:22:35.000 We have to have the conversation about, just like we just talked about, it is necessary to change our gun laws.

00:22:44.000 Our gun laws are too lax.

00:22:46.000 That's the first thing.

00:22:47.000 Then, what we need to do, we need to come up with a system, just like we have with cars or anything else dangerous, where you have to be trained to use it.

00:22:58.000 You have to register whatever it is with the government and you have to have liability insurance and that information transfers.

00:23:07.000 Like the big loophole is the gun shows, right?

00:23:10.000 Where you go to the gun show and you could just sell a gun to another person.

00:23:14.000 Is that still the case?

00:23:15.000 Yeah, in a lot of states that's still the case.

00:23:17.000 You can do that with a car, right?

00:23:19.000 I can sell you my car through Craigslist.

00:23:22.000 But I'm still going to go put in that liability thing.

00:23:26.000 Otherwise, I'm liable for what you do with the car.

00:23:28.000 Like, I protect myself by reporting it, even though I sold it to you party to party.

00:23:34.000 So, yeah, if I'm in charge, we're going to add those things.

00:23:38.000 We're going to get a handle on these guns.

00:23:41.000 We're going to start tracking how many they are, where they are.

00:23:46.000 We're going to collect them.

00:23:48.000 I think it was Australia and some other places that had those things where, look, if you own an illegal weapon, like a fully automatic weapon or whatever makes it illegal, you can turn it in.

00:23:59.000 Maybe there's payment or maybe it's just no questions asked.

00:24:02.000 Just turn it in and we'll destroy it.

00:24:05.000 Well, what happened in Australia is they had a mass shooting and then they put their foot down and they said no more.

00:24:09.000 Right.

00:24:10.000 Australia just banned them altogether.

00:24:11.000 Well, they didn't totally ban them.

00:24:13.000 You could still use a rifle to hunt.

00:24:15.000 But the way we have this sort of fast and loose...

00:24:19.000 There's very few countries in the world that have this kind of fast and loose gun policy.

00:24:25.000 I think...

00:24:25.000 Yeah, we still have the Wild West mentality.

00:24:28.000 Well, we have a freedom mentality, which Bill O'Reilly had a post today where he's talking about that this is the cost of freedom.

00:24:37.000 The cost of freedom, yeah. 1.00

00:24:37.000 Fuck you, fucking crazy. 1.00

00:24:39.000 No, it's not. 1.00

00:24:40.000 Crazy old dickhead. 1.00

00:24:42.000 And I'll give you an example, Joe. 1.00

00:24:43.000 Like, I grew up in New York City.

00:24:45.000 Like, guns have been illegal in New York City for a long time.

00:24:48.000 Now, there are guns in New York City, but not as many as people think, you know, because what happens is when you make it illegal, then the average person, they don't go out of their way to get a gun.

00:24:59.000 They're like, no, I'm not going to have one.

00:25:00.000 Yeah, are criminals going to have guns?

00:25:02.000 Yes, criminals are always going to have guns.

00:25:04.000 But, you know, the thing about the good guy shooting the bad guy, it doesn't happen that often.

00:25:10.000 And my personal belief on this is because in that moment, it takes a lot to shoot somebody.

00:25:15.000 It just happened the other day.

00:25:16.000 It just happened the other day.

00:25:18.000 I'm not saying it doesn't happen. 0.78

00:25:19.000 There was an active shooter somewhere that was taken out by a good guy gun owner.

00:25:24.000 It can happen.

00:25:25.000 You're right, it doesn't happen everywhere all the time.

00:25:29.000 But it can happen.

00:25:31.000 And a lot of people get their guns stolen.

00:25:36.000 Sure.

00:25:39.000 Sure.

00:25:52.000 Yeah, and it's, you know, that happens.

00:25:56.000 So they buy a gun to protect themselves, but they're in no way equipped to use it.

00:26:01.000 Yeah, well there's a lot of that.

00:26:02.000 They're hoping that they can use it or scare people off or something like that, but most likely, yeah, they're not going to be able to do it.

00:26:09.000 But, you know, then there's people that say, well, that's them. 0.98

00:26:12.000 I want the option because I will be able to figure it out, you know, because I'm not a pussy or I'm not... 0.99

00:26:17.000 Then there's a legal way to get one. 0.98

00:26:18.000 And, you know, you do what it takes to and you register it.

00:26:22.000 And again, most gun owners that I know, and I may be wrong because it's not like I'm deep in the gun culture.

00:26:28.000 So I'm not speaking with that expertise.

00:26:30.000 I'm just talking about of the people I know who have guns, who are into guns and shooting.

00:26:35.000 I only have one friend who's like...

00:26:37.000 Doesn't want to register his guns or anything like that.

00:26:40.000 Most of them I know they're fine with having their gun registered.

00:26:43.000 What is the one friend's argument?

00:26:46.000 I couldn't even tell you.

00:26:48.000 I honestly couldn't tell you.

00:26:49.000 I love him.

00:26:50.000 He's just crazy. 0.62

00:26:51.000 But when it comes to guns, he's got a little, he's got some of that paranoia. 0.97

00:26:55.000 He's got some of that, the government's out to get me.

00:26:57.000 Oh, the government.

00:26:58.000 Paranoia.

00:26:58.000 And then, you know, his thing with, we were talking about, and I know it's the wrong term, but it's the common term, assault weapons, assault-type weapons, right?

00:27:08.000 And he said, like, yeah, well, what if there's a home invasion?

00:27:11.000 That's what they use.

00:27:12.000 And I was like, ain't nobody invading your broke-ass home.

00:27:16.000 Unless they want to get your guns.

00:27:18.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:18.000 You're an average American with a two-bedroom in the suburbs.

00:27:22.000 Ain't nobody invading your shit. 1.00

00:27:24.000 You ain't got a safe. 0.99

00:27:25.000 If you were selling crack, you might want to worry.

00:27:27.000 You might have some cash around the house.

00:27:29.000 Even if you were a good marijuana distributor, there'd be a bunch of cash you're not allowed to put in the bank.

00:27:33.000 But you?

00:27:34.000 Ain't nobody invading your house.

00:27:36.000 Yeah.

00:27:38.000 Yeah, everybody wants to be John Wick.

00:27:39.000 Yeah.

00:27:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:27:41.000 Fucking take out a whole crew of people breaking into your house. 1.00

00:27:44.000 Flipping people over staircases and shit. 1.00

00:27:46.000 John Wick's badass. 0.99

00:27:47.000 I love John Wick.

00:27:49.000 I ain't gonna lie. 1.00

00:27:49.000 I love those fucking movies. 1.00

00:27:50.000 I ain't gonna lie. 1.00

00:27:51.000 I love John Wick.

00:27:52.000 My all-time favorite shoot-em-up.

00:27:54.000 Nobody's sitting around talking about John Wick. 1.00

00:27:56.000 When you meet John Wick, your shit is over. 0.99

00:28:00.000 That's Keanu Reeves' best role. 1.00

00:28:02.000 Fuck the Matrix. 1.00

00:28:04.000 That scene, when the gangster calls John Leguizamo and is like, did you hit my son? 1.00

00:28:10.000 Yeah.

00:28:11.000 Why?

00:28:12.000 He stole John Wick's car and killed his dog.

00:28:15.000 Thank you.

00:28:18.000 Yeah, that's a great movie.

00:28:20.000 Both of them are great.

00:28:21.000 I enjoyed the second one, too. 0.94

00:28:22.000 They're just silly, preposterous, unrealistic, but awesome. 0.77

00:28:26.000 I mean, if you like that sort of John Woo-type violence, just off the charts, ridiculous gun violence, but it's cartoonish and comic book-like. 0.97

00:28:37.000 Right, it's not real.

00:28:38.000 And Keanu plays it, you know, he's so good at it.

00:28:41.000 He plays it perfectly.

00:28:42.000 But just like any other movie, the bad guys can't shoot.

00:28:47.000 Right.

00:28:48.000 Right?

00:28:48.000 So there's 25 guys shooting at him.

00:28:51.000 Right. 0.78

00:28:51.000 One of them might wing him. 0.78

00:28:53.000 Right, wing him. 0.96

00:28:54.000 Graze his shoulder.

00:28:55.000 They always get shot in his shoulder a little bit.

00:28:57.000 Yeah, I don't know what the argument is for not registering guns that makes sense.

00:29:04.000 Because, I mean, unless you just want a world where everybody's just packing.

00:29:07.000 Like, there's a few states where you have concealed and even open carry that you're just allowed.

00:29:14.000 Right.

00:29:14.000 You're just allowed to have a gun on your hip and just walk everywhere.

00:29:16.000 Right.

00:29:17.000 Or they have the test, but it's like it used to be here with traffic school, where you just pay the guy and he gives you the certificate that you went.

00:29:26.000 They do these tests for carrying concealed, but it's like you can do it online.

00:29:34.000 It's crazy.

00:29:35.000 That's crazy.

00:29:36.000 Well, you can do, in Texas, you can do your hunting safety certificate online.

00:29:41.000 Yeah.

00:29:41.000 There's a couple places where you can do it.

00:29:42.000 Most of the places you have to go, and for a hunter safety certificate, you have to sit down through, I think it's eight hours of class, and go through all this stuff.

00:29:51.000 Then you have to take a test, and you have to understand things.

00:29:53.000 You have to know.

00:29:54.000 Does it transfer from one state to the other?

00:29:57.000 Like, in other words, if you're licensed to hunt in Texas, that's good for some other states.

00:30:01.000 Yeah.

00:30:01.000 Yeah, if you have a hunter safety certificate in Texas, it's good, I think, in almost every state.

00:30:06.000 But, I mean, that's a good thing.

00:30:09.000 It's a good thing to have to have some knowledge of, you know, what's safety.

00:30:15.000 It's called the hunter safety thing.

00:30:17.000 It's not even about knowing how to hunt.

00:30:19.000 It's just about knowing how to not get shot or shoot yourself or shoot someone else and how a gun works and how all various weapons, bows and arrows, crossbows and stuff work.

00:30:31.000 You don't have to do any of that to get a gun, though.

00:30:33.000 I mean, if you just had to go through an eight-hour course to get a gun, how many less people would have guns?

00:30:37.000 If you had to pass an eight-hour course to legally have a gun, how many fewer people would have guns?

00:30:41.000 It would probably be like 30% of the people that have guns now. 0.70

00:30:44.000 Well, and also, you know, they're saying this is the wrong time to politicize it, which, yeah, it is.

00:30:49.000 It's time for a politician to stand up to the NRA. It's not politicized because every politician is afraid to say, we need to register all the guns because the NRA is going to attack their whole lobby machine.

00:31:02.000 But it's going to take a politician who has the balls to say, hey, wait a minute, I can get...

00:31:07.000 As many people following me, like, in other words, challenge the NRA and get as many people backing you as the NRA has. 1.00

00:31:15.000 The best way to do it for these people is to not say shit. 1.00

00:31:18.000 When they don't say shit, then they don't get the NRA attacking them. 1.00

00:31:22.000 They're afraid right now. 0.99

00:31:23.000 The politicians who know better, who absolutely know better, who know that our current situation is ridiculous and our system is broken in the gun laws, none of them will stand up and say it.

00:31:37.000 Except the ones that the NRA already hates.

00:31:40.000 Right.

00:31:41.000 Like Bernie Sanders type characters.

00:31:43.000 Yeah, I mean, again, it's the team thing, right?

00:31:46.000 Yeah.

00:31:47.000 They're supporting the left, they're supporting the right, everybody meets in the middle and they yell at each other.

00:31:51.000 Yeah, and this is not a left-right...

00:31:57.000 It's another one of those common sense issues where we don't have common sense.

00:32:00.000 I joke sometimes on stage, like I'm going to Canada next week, I'm doing a tour, and I had this joke, like, can you explain it to a Canadian?

00:32:10.000 That should be the test for what's sane.

00:32:12.000 Can you explain it to a Canadian? 0.74

00:32:14.000 I was doing it regarding healthcare.

00:32:16.000 Try to explain to a Canadian why we've demonized healthcare, why we want to shut down healthcare. 0.88

00:32:22.000 What do you mean by demonized?

00:32:24.000 Meaning that they're anti-Obamacare.

00:32:27.000 So rather than look for a compromise or fix the system, just shut it down because it's called Obamacare.

00:32:35.000 Just the anger at the name.

00:32:37.000 Like that famous night that Kimmel did where it was like...

00:32:41.000 We're good to go.

00:32:48.000 We're good to go.

00:33:00.000 Saying, okay, like, maybe this part, like the no pre-existings part of the health care plan, that's a good idea, so we're going to keep that.

00:33:06.000 But maybe the cost of this is a bad idea, so we're going to change that, you know what I mean?

00:33:11.000 And working to fix it.

00:33:13.000 The gun issue is the same way.

00:33:15.000 There's certain freedoms that I understand, and, you know, the right to bear arms and so on.

00:33:20.000 And, again, it was written in a completely different time, you know, so we need to update that right now.

00:33:27.000 Taking into account everything that we deal with today.

00:33:30.000 Well, one step at a time, if you're going to talk about the Affordable Care Act, if you're going to talk about health care at all, you've got to talk about what are the real issues, like what are the root causes of diseases.

00:33:39.000 And a big part of the root causes of diseases are how people eat in this country.

00:33:42.000 And if people eat poorly and they consume a lot of refined carbohydrates and a lot of processed sugars and their diet is filled with bullshit and they're drinking every day and they're smoking cigarettes, like, man, if you want to make those choices with your life, you are going to get diseases.

00:34:00.000 It's almost inexorable. 0.92

00:34:02.000 Right.

00:34:02.000 And then you start battling the corporations and big food and stuff like that because, you know, why is it so much cheaper to eat poorly?

00:34:12.000 Well, that's because it's cheaper to produce.

00:34:15.000 But think about the actual physical numbers of people that die every year from heart disease.

00:34:21.000 Oh, absolutely. 0.98

00:34:22.000 It's fucking stunning. 0.98

00:34:23.000 Absolutely. 0.99

00:34:23.000 Because, you know, look at the amount of fast food we consume. 0.99

00:34:27.000 Yeah.

00:34:27.000 And it's like fast food isn't evil.

00:34:30.000 There's times when, you know, you're on the run and you want to grab a burger, you want to grab fries, or it's just good.

00:34:35.000 As long as it's not your whole diet.

00:34:36.000 That's okay.

00:34:36.000 Right.

00:34:37.000 But it can't be the only thing you eat all the time.

00:34:40.000 You saw Super Size Me, right?

00:34:41.000 Yeah.

00:34:42.000 Yeah.

00:34:42.000 I mean, it ain't good.

00:34:44.000 No. 0.99

00:34:44.000 It's not good to eat just constant bullshit. 0.99

00:34:47.000 Right. 0.99

00:34:48.000 Well, you can't eat that much salt and grease all the time and not have...

00:34:52.000 You know, anything you do, there's a penalty for it.

00:34:55.000 You know, salt's not bad for you.

00:34:56.000 You know that?

00:34:57.000 But in excess. 1.00

00:34:58.000 Yeah, it's all bullshit. 0.99

00:34:59.000 That whole thing about salt being bad for you and salt raising high blood pressure and all that stuff, that was kind of concocted by one doctor and ran with. 0.99

00:35:07.000 There's really very little evidence about that.

00:35:09.000 I don't know.

00:35:10.000 I'm black, Joe.

00:35:10.000 They told us not to eat salt.

00:35:11.000 Yeah, I know.

00:35:12.000 They tell you not to eat fatty foods either, but meanwhile, it's refined carbohydrates that are the real issue, apparently.

00:35:18.000 Yeah, the sugar, and everything is in sugar, and we are addicted.

00:35:21.000 We are sugar addicts.

00:35:22.000 Sugar, corn syrup.

00:35:23.000 I mean, and then there's also like all these studies that talk to you about red meat.

00:35:27.000 But when you look at the studies about red meat and you look at the criticisms of studies, like people that eat red meat get more cancer.

00:35:32.000 Well, the real criticism of those studies is what are you eating with the red meat?

00:35:36.000 Right.

00:35:36.000 Because are you eating like lean, like grass-fed bison with like asparagus and broccoli?

00:35:42.000 I bet you're pretty fucking healthy if you're doing that.

00:35:44.000 The real issue is are you eating burgers? 0.96

00:35:47.000 They don't differentiate between the two.

00:35:48.000 When you talk about people that eat red meat five times a week and the correlation between cancer, they're literally not even taking into consideration what they eat with that red meat.

00:35:57.000 Are they eating with white bread?

00:35:58.000 Are they eating with a sugary soda?

00:36:00.000 This again, Joe, this is what we're talking about the same thing because it's like the common sense argument is eliminated because the common sense argument is quiet.

00:36:09.000 So you have the loud, the yelling argument of, you know, the meat.

00:36:14.000 Lobby versus whoever's the anti-meat people.

00:36:19.000 And so, you know what I mean?

00:36:20.000 And the common sense is in between.

00:36:21.000 Like you said, there's healthy ways to eat meat, or maybe you don't eat it with every meal, or not every day.

00:36:28.000 You mix it up or something like that.

00:36:30.000 It's not meat.

00:36:31.000 Meat is something that human beings have eaten forever.

00:36:33.000 The real issue is the fine carbohydrates.

00:36:36.000 Right.

00:36:39.000 Right.

00:36:43.000 Right.

00:36:55.000 Deep-fried chicken that's been sitting in the grease for X number of hours waiting for you to come pick it up.

00:37:02.000 Covered in flour.

00:37:03.000 Right, exactly.

00:37:05.000 That is not a healthy way to eat chicken.

00:37:07.000 Speaking of chicken, super-sized meat, too.

00:37:10.000 You'll never look at chicken the same way again.

00:37:11.000 He's doing this.

00:37:12.000 Take that down.

00:37:13.000 Don't ruin chicken for me.

00:37:15.000 You know what?

00:37:15.000 I have an issue with him, though.

00:37:16.000 He did a show where he was...

00:37:19.000 He did like 30 days, was that the name of his show?

00:37:23.000 And one of the things he did was on hormone replacement, like testosterone replacement and things along those lines.

00:37:29.000 But I know for a fact that the producers tried to go to legitimate doctors and the doctors turned them down because they said, this is not how you do it.

00:37:36.000 You don't do anything like that over 30 days.

00:37:38.000 Hold on a second.

00:37:39.000 So what he did for that show is he went to a quack, and this quack shot him up with testosterone.

00:37:44.000 Not him, the guy on the show that he used as a study case.

00:37:48.000 And they shot this guy up with testosterone.

00:37:50.000 The guy started getting aggressive and yelling at his kids, and his wife was like, I like you, chubby.

00:37:54.000 I'm chubby.

00:37:55.000 We have a chubby family. 1.00

00:37:56.000 I'm like, this is the dumbest fucking example of the science behind manipulating your hormones. 1.00

00:38:02.000 The way you're supposed to do it is first... 1.00

00:38:04.000 Address your diet, number one.

00:38:06.000 You take your diet into consideration, like, what are you eating?

00:38:10.000 I mean, are you getting these gigantic insulin spikes all day?

00:38:13.000 Like, your hormone levels are completely dependent upon what kind of food you consume.

00:38:18.000 So what they would do in a healthy doctor, the doctor that I was using, I don't want to say his name, but what he would do is for like the first couple months, the first thing you would do is change your diet.

00:38:30.000 The first thing you would do is don't eat late at night.

00:38:33.000 The first thing you would do is eat healthy food and they would literally check your blood nutrition levels.

00:38:40.000 And say, well, you're low on niacin.

00:38:43.000 You're low on vitamin D. You're low on vitamin B. You've got to add these to your diet.

00:38:48.000 Let's see what your hormone levels are like then.

00:38:49.000 Oh, look, we have this big spike.

00:38:51.000 Now we have a healthy baseline.

00:38:53.000 Now we've done this for four or five months.

00:38:55.000 Now we know where you're at and what you need.

00:38:58.000 And they didn't do that. 1.00

00:38:59.000 They just shot him up with some shit. 0.99

00:39:01.000 So, that guy and his show, I've had problems with him ever since then. 0.99

00:39:05.000 I'm like, why would you?

00:39:06.000 Like, that's sensationalism. 1.00

00:39:08.000 That's bullshit. 0.99

00:39:08.000 Like, what you've done is you've put together a show where you've had a terrible representation of something that millions of people engage in. 0.99

00:39:15.000 Hormone replacement.

00:39:17.000 Well, even in supersized meat, even if you ate at McDonald's, you wouldn't eat as much as he did.

00:39:22.000 Right.

00:39:22.000 You wouldn't supersize every meal.

00:39:25.000 Well, that was the deal, though.

00:39:27.000 He said if they offered him supersize, he was going to say yes.

00:39:30.000 But they always do.

00:39:31.000 Yeah.

00:39:31.000 They always offer to upsize you.

00:39:34.000 Yeah, but then I've heard people also say they've done the same thing.

00:39:38.000 They've done that Super Size Me diet and tried it for 30 days, and they didn't have nearly the negative responses, and they thought that they might have sensationalized that as well.

00:39:46.000 They probably did.

00:39:47.000 I mean, it's TV. You've got to sensationalize it some.

00:39:51.000 And it's also, you know, you talk about hormones and things like that.

00:39:55.000 Different people...

00:39:57.000 React to things different ways.

00:40:00.000 Their bodies, some people's bodies, and it drives you crazy, right?

00:40:05.000 That person you know that eats junk food all the time but has this crazy metabolism and they never gain weight.

00:40:11.000 Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds. 0.96

00:40:14.000 There you go.

00:40:16.000 Pull this up.

00:40:17.000 He did it just to prove the calories in calories out thing, but there's a caveat in this too that says it doesn't have any...

00:40:25.000 Hold on.

00:40:25.000 Hormone stuff.

00:40:26.000 Go down.

00:40:27.000 Let me see it from the top.

00:40:28.000 For 10 weeks, Mark Howe, professor of nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakeettes every three hours instead of meals.

00:40:37.000 To add variety to his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Howe munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereal, and Oreos too.

00:40:46.000 His premise that in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most, not the nutritional value of the food.

00:40:53.000 The premise held up on his convenience store diet.

00:40:56.000 He shed 27 pounds in two months.

00:40:57.000 But here's the thing.

00:40:58.000 What is his body fat?

00:41:00.000 Like, what's his body composition?

00:41:02.000 Stop.

00:41:02.000 Go back.

00:41:04.000 See, like, he shed 27 pounds in two months.

00:41:07.000 That doesn't mean anything.

00:41:08.000 Like, if you lost all of your muscle and gained fat, and you lost...

00:41:14.000 I mean, you gotta understand, like, if you're not taking in any protein...

00:41:17.000 Your body's not going to be able to maintain muscle mass.

00:41:19.000 Now, if your body's not going to maintain muscle mass, you're going to have less.

00:41:23.000 See, his body fat mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal.

00:41:31.000 He now weighs 174 pounds.

00:41:33.000 His bad cholesterol, LDL, dropped 20%, and his good cholesterol, HDL, increased by 20%.

00:41:40.000 He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39%.

00:41:44.000 That's where the head scratching comes from, Hobbs says.

00:41:48.000 What does that mean?

00:41:49.000 Does it mean I'm healthier?

00:41:50.000 Does it mean how we define health from a biological standpoint, that we're missing something?

00:41:54.000 Despite his temporary success, he does not recommend it.

00:41:57.000 Look, two-thirds of his total intake.

00:41:59.000 Read that one.

00:42:00.000 Yeah.

00:42:00.000 He also...

00:42:01.000 Oh, wait a minute.

00:42:02.000 He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily.

00:42:06.000 And he ate vegetables.

00:42:08.000 Typically a can of green beans or three or four celery stalks.

00:42:12.000 All right. 1.00

00:42:13.000 Well, that's a stupid study. 1.00

00:42:15.000 Right. 1.00

00:42:16.000 Because then he's replacing the protein and vitamins.

00:42:20.000 Yeah.

00:42:20.000 So he's not living on Twinkies and Doritos.

00:42:25.000 Yeah.

00:42:25.000 Yeah, if you just did that without the protein and without the vitamins...

00:42:30.000 Yeah, it would have been a different result.

00:42:33.000 But people love...

00:42:34.000 I mean, that's why we're reading it, right?

00:42:35.000 We're reading it because you got a sensational result.

00:42:38.000 And the way it was written, the sensational part was the first part of the article.

00:42:43.000 Of course.

00:42:44.000 And you had to go way down before you got to the part about eating vegetables and drinking a protein shake.

00:42:49.000 Yeah.

00:42:50.000 Don't eat Little Debbie's cakes all day, folks.

00:42:53.000 Don't do that. 1.00

00:42:54.000 You'll get fucked up. 1.00

00:42:55.000 If you've learned anything today, you cannot live on Twinkies. 1.00

00:42:58.000 But every now and then, have a fucking Twinkie. 0.99

00:43:01.000 You know, I believe everything in moderation, including moderation. 0.99

00:43:04.000 That's what I believe.

00:43:05.000 I think that's an Oscar Wilde quote.

00:43:07.000 I think it's a great quote.

00:43:08.000 Because I think that's good.

00:43:09.000 I mean, even... 0.99

00:43:11.000 Just have some bullshit every now and then. 1.00

00:43:14.000 Have a fucking Big Mac. 1.00

00:43:15.000 You know, that people have the cheat day or whatever. 1.00

00:43:18.000 And yeah, it's because you're human.

00:43:21.000 You're human and you're going to have it.

00:43:23.000 And some of it's delicious.

00:43:24.000 It's fun.

00:43:25.000 It's fun to eat a waffle smothered in maple syrup.

00:43:29.000 It's fun. 1.00

00:43:30.000 It's fun every now and then to go to fucking Waffle House. 0.97

00:43:33.000 You ever go to Waffle House on the road? 0.99

00:43:34.000 Of course.

00:43:34.000 I've worked the South.

00:43:35.000 What are you kidding?

00:43:36.000 They're great.

00:43:37.000 Waffle House.

00:43:37.000 Have you ever been to Waffle House when they're on both sides of the freeway so no matter which ramp you come off, you don't have to turn?

00:43:43.000 Isn't that funny that the South has Waffle Houses? 0.92

00:43:47.000 It's like the West has In-N-Out, the South has Waffle House.

00:43:50.000 You know, they put in In-N-Out in Dallas, and they had lines around the block for days.

00:43:54.000 For days. 0.99

00:43:55.000 People had never seen a fucking cheeseburger before. 1.00

00:43:58.000 And you know who was mad? 1.00

00:43:59.000 Who?

00:43:59.000 Whataburger.

00:44:00.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:01.000 It should be.

00:44:01.000 Because that's Texas' burger chain.

00:44:04.000 Step your fucking game up. 0.99

00:44:05.000 In-N-Out came in, and they were like, wait a minute. 1.00

00:44:07.000 Everyone's lining up for that California liberal burger. 0.99

00:44:09.000 Yeah, well, if you're the unknown comic, and you're playing at a club, and Chris Rock is at the fucking arena next door, you can't get pissed off. 0.99

00:44:16.000 Someone's got a better product than you. 0.98

00:44:17.000 Let me speak from experience to that, Joe.

00:44:20.000 Let me speak from experience.

00:44:22.000 I was booked at, what's it called, the Club 29 or whatever, that casino just past Palm Springs.

00:44:28.000 I don't know if you've ever worked out there.

00:44:30.000 No.

00:44:30.000 But anyway, it's one of those big Indian casinos.

00:44:32.000 And I had never worked this place before.

00:44:35.000 So I'm booked to work the comedy club inside.

00:44:38.000 Guess who's working the arena behind the hotel?

00:44:41.000 Kevin Hart.

00:44:42.000 Chris Rock.

00:44:43.000 Chris Rock.

00:44:43.000 And I was like, even I want to go to the Chris Rock show.

00:44:47.000 You know what I mean?

00:44:48.000 It's like...

00:44:50.000 Really, your idea is to put me and Chris on it the same week you couldn't think of some other comic.

00:44:55.000 When was this?

00:44:55.000 It was about four years ago.

00:44:58.000 But it was just one of those things, you know, his pictures on the gambling tables, you know how they do that and everything.

00:45:05.000 I was like, I want to go to the Chris Rock show.

00:45:08.000 There were people at my show, I'm like, why are you here?

00:45:10.000 Why don't we all just go out and watch Chris?

00:45:14.000 Yeah.

00:45:16.000 Whataburger, step your game up.

00:45:18.000 Their burgers are okay.

00:45:20.000 Whataburger's okay.

00:45:21.000 Whataburger's okay.

00:45:22.000 In-N-Out better.

00:45:23.000 In-N-Out is way better.

00:45:24.000 I'll tell you what, though. 0.92

00:45:25.000 Five Guys fucks with In-N-Out. 0.98

00:45:27.000 Five Guys got game. 0.94

00:45:28.000 You got Five Guys right next to In-N-Out. 1.00

00:45:30.000 You go, hmm, Five Guys has fucking jalapenos. 0.99

00:45:33.000 They put jalapenos on those burgers. 1.00

00:45:35.000 They have fries.

00:45:36.000 Like real fries.

00:45:38.000 You got five guys next to In-N-Out across the street from Whataburger. 0.99

00:45:41.000 You got America, damn it. 0.99

00:45:42.000 Yeah, you got America. 1.00

00:45:43.000 You know what five guys fucks up? 1.00

00:45:45.000 They fuck up where they don't have shakes. 1.00

00:45:47.000 They don't go with shakes. 0.99

00:45:48.000 They don't have shakes. 0.99

00:45:49.000 But their burgers are goddamn good. 0.99

00:45:52.000 Burgers are good. 0.99

00:45:52.000 Their fries are good. 0.99

00:45:53.000 Fries are good.

00:45:54.000 A lot of potatoes.

00:45:55.000 Yeah, their potatoes are better.

00:45:56.000 Yeah.

00:45:56.000 They seem to have a better idea of what a fry is.

00:45:59.000 And then they have Cajun fries.

00:46:00.000 Yeah.

00:46:01.000 Ooh.

00:46:01.000 Yeah.

00:46:02.000 Yeah, no, I'm dumb. 0.98

00:46:03.000 Five guys. 0.99

00:46:03.000 Well, that's why they're in the game. 0.99

00:46:05.000 What about us?

00:46:05.000 They're in the game.

00:46:06.000 That, to me, is a dead heat.

00:46:07.000 What about steak and shake?

00:46:08.000 What do you think of that? 1.00

00:46:08.000 Steak and shake would suck my dick. 1.00

00:46:10.000 I said it right here. 1.00

00:46:11.000 But the peanuts.

00:46:11.000 The peanuts are five guys.

00:46:13.000 Peanuts, that's right.

00:46:14.000 How do you feel about those?

00:46:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:15.000 They're that hungry.

00:46:16.000 All right.

00:46:16.000 If you're that hungry, there's nothing wrong with peanuts, unless you've got a peanut allergy, of course.

00:46:20.000 Which is another thing.

00:46:21.000 We're talking about how different people react to different things.

00:46:23.000 The peanut allergy is always like the best argument.

00:46:25.000 This is the new thing, and I've only heard this recently.

00:46:29.000 Actually, this year is the first time I heard it, where they're like, you can't have anything peanut-related on an airplane because a passenger has a severe peanut allergy.

00:46:37.000 Yeah.

00:46:38.000 Well, some people...

00:46:39.000 I haven't heard that until this year.

00:46:41.000 Well, I've heard it.

00:46:41.000 When you crack open a peanut, you know that dust that kind of goes in the air?

00:46:45.000 That shit kills people. 1.00

00:46:46.000 Wow. 1.00

00:46:47.000 Which is nuts.

00:46:48.000 Yeah.

00:46:49.000 Imagine if you didn't like somebody, you got right up to them and just... 1.00

00:46:52.000 Like some CIA shit, just cracking in their face. 1.00

00:46:54.000 That would be some CSI shit. 1.00

00:46:56.000 Like, they'd have to figure out how you killed them, who opened the peanut. 0.99

00:47:00.000 Yeah.

00:47:00.000 Yeah, you know, I was thinking this is a terrible thought, but I was thinking this about Tom Petty.

00:47:04.000 I was like, I wonder if Tom Petty heard the news about Vegas and had a fucking heart attack. 0.96

00:47:08.000 Can you imagine if that guy killed Tom Petty from a distance? 1.00

00:47:11.000 Could happen.

00:47:12.000 How did Tom Petty have a heart attack?

00:47:14.000 Did he know?

00:47:15.000 I mean, what time was his heart attack?

00:47:18.000 Was it Sunday night or was it Sunday day?

00:47:22.000 And how old was he?

00:47:23.000 66, man.

00:47:24.000 That ain't old.

00:47:24.000 That's not real old.

00:47:26.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:47:26.000 66, Stallone was still fucking kicking ass in action movies. 0.99

00:47:29.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:47:31.000 He still is.

00:47:31.000 I think Liam Neeson was taken the second time at 66, right?

00:47:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:47:36.000 I'm just thinking, if I'm a thug, I can't let a 70-year-old whip my ass. 1.00

00:47:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:47:43.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:47:44.000 There's a certain age where it's like, no, man, I don't care how long you've been fighting, what training you have.

00:47:49.000 Listen, old man, I'm in my thug prime.

00:47:52.000 Who's like the oldest guy who legitimately makes sense as like a stone-cold killer in a movie?

00:47:58.000 Was it Bronson?

00:48:00.000 Well, Charles Bronson in Death Wish, he was already, like, fat Charles Bronson.

00:48:04.000 Yeah.

00:48:05.000 He got in, like, the chubby face and he couldn't take his suit off.

00:48:08.000 When he was like, you go back to, like, the hard times Bronson, he was like 50. Right, he was in his 50s.

00:48:13.000 He was shredded.

00:48:14.000 Shredded. 1.00

00:48:15.000 I'm just, I'm trying to think, is anyone in their 60s legitimate to whip your ass, like, physically? 1.00

00:48:22.000 Not shoot you, but... 1.00

00:48:24.000 George Foreman will fuck you up. 1.00

00:48:26.000 Yeah, well, he's a puncher. 1.00

00:48:28.000 Yeah, George Foreman's probably 60 years old, and I bet he'll fuck himself. 1.00

00:48:32.000 He's gonna fight Steven Seagal. 1.00

00:48:33.000 What?

00:48:34.000 Did he call it Steven Seagal?

00:48:35.000 Did you see that?

00:48:35.000 Who?

00:48:35.000 George Foreman?

00:48:36.000 What?

00:48:37.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:48:37.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99

00:48:38.000 Oh, after Seagal's craziness? 1.00

00:48:40.000 What was Seagal talking crazy about?

00:48:42.000 He said, like, you can do anything you want, 10 rounds, something like that. 1.00

00:48:46.000 That is so ridiculously stupid of Steven Seagal, because all he'd have to do is pour water on his head, and that black shit would just run down into his eyes, and he wouldn't be able to see. 1.00

00:48:54.000 What does it say? 1.00

00:48:55.000 George Foreman just challenged Steven Seagal to a no-holds-barred fight. 0.99

00:49:00.000 Boy, that would be a goddamn disaster. 0.95

00:49:02.000 68-year-old boxing legend used Twitter to challenge 65-year-old action movie star to a 10-round fight. 0.99

00:49:09.000 I'd bet a 68-year-old Foreman.

00:49:11.000 A 68-year-old Foreman versus a 65-year-old Seagal?

00:49:15.000 Yeah, I'd bet on Foreman.

00:49:16.000 I'd challenge you one-on-one.

00:49:18.000 I use boxing.

00:49:18.000 You can use whatever.

00:49:20.000 10 rounds in Vegas.

00:49:21.000 No weapons.

00:49:22.000 Hand-to-hand only. 1.00

00:49:23.000 That would be a fucking disaster. 0.99

00:49:26.000 First of all, George Foreman is so big that he had this shell defense that he adopted later in his career. 0.99

00:49:33.000 Yeah, where he would curl up.

00:49:35.000 And he was so big.

00:49:36.000 There was so much arm there.

00:49:37.000 You couldn't hit him.

00:49:38.000 You're not hitting anything.

00:49:39.000 You hit his stomach.

00:49:40.000 Good luck with all that.

00:49:41.000 You're not going to hurt him to the body.

00:49:42.000 And then he's got these hands that are literally like canned hands.

00:49:46.000 And he'd just thump.

00:49:47.000 He would just jab people into a coma.

00:49:50.000 Did you see that guy?

00:49:51.000 I think he's playing for the Milwaukee Bucks.

00:49:53.000 His hands surround the basketball.

00:49:56.000 We're good.

00:49:56.000 Did you see that?

00:49:57.000 He literally, it's like a softball in his hands.

00:50:01.000 There's people that are getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.

00:50:05.000 I mean, go back to like Jack Johnson, who was a giant when he won the heavyweight championship.

00:50:09.000 He's only 6'2".

00:50:10.000 Right.

00:50:11.000 He's not even a big guy, you know?

00:50:13.000 My big hand moment, earlier this year I did a show and...

00:50:18.000 Whoa, look at that guy's hands!

00:50:20.000 Yeah.

00:50:20.000 Show him around the basketball if you have that picture.

00:50:23.000 That looks cartoonish.

00:50:24.000 That doesn't even look real. 1.00

00:50:27.000 That guy must have a dick like a palm tree. 1.00

00:50:30.000 I'm telling you. 1.00

00:50:30.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

00:50:32.000 Holy shit, it's two feet from his middle finger to the base of his hand. 1.00

00:50:35.000 That's insane. 0.99

00:50:36.000 Is that inches?

00:50:37.000 Yes.

00:50:38.000 Or centimeters.

00:50:41.000 I met Jerry Rice. 0.99

00:50:43.000 Oh, they're fucking with us with the centimeters. 0.98

00:50:45.000 My hand is the same size as Jerry Rice's. 0.98

00:50:49.000 Yo, that makes sense.

00:50:50.000 Whoa, look at that.

00:50:51.000 Yeah, there it is.

00:50:52.000 Look at that.

00:50:53.000 Well, how old is he then?

00:50:54.000 He is in high school then, it looks like.

00:50:55.000 Jesus Christ!

00:50:57.000 Wow. 0.99

00:50:58.000 He's a big freak. 0.73

00:51:00.000 They call him the Greek freak. 0.97

00:51:01.000 Yeah, the Greek freak. 1.00

00:51:01.000 He's amazing. 1.00

00:51:02.000 Is he Greek?

00:51:03.000 Yeah, Giannis Antetokounmpo.

00:51:05.000 Whoa, that's a name.

00:51:06.000 Oh, and he's a hell of a ball player.

00:51:08.000 Look at that name.

00:51:11.000 Antetokounmpo.

00:51:11.000 That's why they call him the Greek freak.

00:51:15.000 How do you say that?

00:51:16.000 Antetokounmpo.

00:51:19.000 Antetokounmpo.

00:51:20.000 Antetokounmpo.

00:51:22.000 Antetokounmpo.

00:51:23.000 Antetokounmpo.

00:51:24.000 Antetokounmpo.

00:51:24.000 So he's from Greece.

00:51:26.000 Yeah.

00:51:26.000 I believe so, yeah.

00:51:27.000 Yeah.

00:51:28.000 Interesting.

00:51:29.000 Yeah, I mean, what if that guy gets a hold of a Gabrielle Reese?

00:51:32.000 She's already married, but someone along those lines.

00:51:34.000 A large woman. 0.99

00:51:36.000 Like the woman from Game of Thrones. 1.00

00:51:38.000 That giant bitch. 1.00

00:51:40.000 Gets a hold of her. 1.00

00:51:41.000 Shoots some super sperm in there. 0.99

00:51:44.000 Makes some giant babies. 0.98

00:51:45.000 And the next generation is going to be a hell of a...

00:51:47.000 I mean, they've been doing that with animals forever.

00:51:49.000 What sport would that kid go into?

00:51:51.000 Any sport he wants.

00:51:52.000 Yeah, pretty much. 1.00

00:51:53.000 Whatever fucking sport he wants. 0.99

00:51:54.000 Everybody get out of the way. 0.99

00:51:55.000 What about Aaron Judge, 6'7", 280, playing baseball?

00:51:58.000 You see how the bat looks in his hand?

00:52:00.000 The bat looks like a little twig, like he's swinging a kid's bat?

00:52:03.000 Well, you see in that, though.

00:52:04.000 That's one thing that's interesting.

00:52:06.000 That guy, in the past, might have gone into football.

00:52:09.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:52:10.000 But now, guys are looking at football and like, fuck that. 1.00

00:52:13.000 I don't blame him. 1.00

00:52:14.000 I don't blame him at all.

00:52:15.000 There's guys that are retiring at 24, 25 years old.

00:52:18.000 Why am I going to have a three-year career with possible concussion damage and everything else when I could play baseball or basketball for 10 years and leave with $100 million? 0.99

00:52:30.000 And just fuck everything that moves. 0.96

00:52:31.000 They did a study on former basketball players, or former football players rather, and 111 players, 110 of them, had CTE. 110! 1.00

00:52:42.000 Out of 111. There's the guy who was the doctor behind that movie Concussion.

00:52:47.000 He was recently talking about O.J. Simpson because O.J. Simpson was released.

00:52:50.000 And he's like, there's 100% chance that guy has CTE. And they've even said that O.J., if the trial was today, his doctor said that he would introduce CTE as a defense.

00:53:01.000 As a defense, yeah.

00:53:02.000 Which is crazy because then you have to say he's guilty.

00:53:05.000 Because the defense is always, I didn't do it.

00:53:08.000 Until he wrote a book, How I Did It.

00:53:10.000 Yeah, If I Did It.

00:53:11.000 That was the book.

00:53:12.000 Yeah, I know.

00:53:12.000 An if is in tiny little red marks.

00:53:15.000 And I did it.

00:53:16.000 I watched the Cuba Gooding show last night.

00:53:19.000 The FX show.

00:53:20.000 I'd never seen it.

00:53:21.000 Oh, you'd never seen it?

00:53:21.000 The People vs.

00:53:22.000 O.J. Simpson.

00:53:22.000 Oh, it's great.

00:53:23.000 It was great.

00:53:24.000 It's weird.

00:53:24.000 Yeah, great show.

00:53:26.000 Yeah, it's a weird watch, man.

00:53:27.000 Did you revisit everything?

00:53:29.000 I said it the night when the OJ got out, it's like, just go away.

00:53:33.000 Just go somewhere.

00:53:35.000 Be quiet.

00:53:36.000 Don't say anything. 0.74

00:53:37.000 Play golf and keep your mouth shut.

00:53:40.000 He can't do that, though.

00:53:41.000 He's not going to and he can't.

00:53:43.000 He's addicted to love.

00:53:44.000 He's addicted to people liking him. 1.00

00:53:47.000 If he goes to Florida, there's plenty of fucking stupid people in Florida that will take him right in. 1.00

00:53:52.000 Or he's going back to jail. 1.00

00:53:53.000 He's going to do something stupid and violate his parole. 0.99

00:53:57.000 Do you think he'll do that, though, at seven years old or whatever he is? 1.00

00:54:00.000 Well, if he does anything other than shut up, he's either going to die or go back to jail. 0.75

00:54:05.000 You know what I mean? 0.98

00:54:06.000 Like, there's no...

00:54:08.000 There's no positive that's going to come out of him making public appearances, you know, writing a book, going on a talk show circuit.

00:54:16.000 Like, no.

00:54:16.000 Like, you're 70 years old.

00:54:18.000 Live out the last 10, 15, 20 years, whatever you got.

00:54:23.000 Just live it.

00:54:24.000 There's money somewhere, right?

00:54:26.000 Because Florida, they couldn't take his money.

00:54:28.000 Like, that's why he moved there.

00:54:29.000 So he's got money somewhere.

00:54:31.000 Just...

00:54:32.000 Just quietly fade away.

00:54:34.000 People might recognize you when you go down to play bingo at the home.

00:54:38.000 Oh, you want to play bingo?

00:54:40.000 Just wave.

00:54:41.000 Bang some old bros. 1.00

00:54:43.000 I don't think there's any way...

00:54:46.000 There's no positive public appearance that OJ could make.

00:54:51.000 No, the Attorney General, I think it was, Florida, was saying that she didn't want him hopping around her state playing golf, which is, by the way, it's not your state, honey.

00:55:00.000 Just to let you know. 0.99

00:55:03.000 Well, it is in the sense that she's the top cop and she can prosecute him for any made-up shit she wants. 0.98

00:55:09.000 Yeah, but you can't do that. 0.99

00:55:10.000 That's not America. 0.99

00:55:11.000 See, when someone gets a fucking release, right? 0.99

00:55:14.000 You're released, you're on parole, you're released from prison. 0.99

00:55:17.000 You can't just target someone because they're famous and they've been released. 0.99

00:55:20.000 Like, you're dealing with a million fucking murderers are getting out every day. 0.99

00:55:25.000 You're dealing, I'm not a million, obviously, but you're dealing with a shit ton of people that were armed robbers and have committed assault and rape. 1.00

00:55:31.000 They're getting out all the time. 0.96

00:55:32.000 Right.

00:55:35.000 Right.

00:55:37.000 Right.

00:55:41.000 Right.

00:55:51.000 You think so?

00:55:51.000 Yeah, you don't know how.

00:55:53.000 It might be jaywalking.

00:55:55.000 I'd hire a driver.

00:55:55.000 It might be speeding.

00:55:56.000 It might be whatever.

00:55:58.000 You know what I mean?

00:55:59.000 But you would do something that would violate some statute that you didn't know about.

00:56:04.000 Maybe you would.

00:56:05.000 You might be, well.

00:56:06.000 Maybe you.

00:56:06.000 You know, I got that whole driving while black thing going for me.

00:56:09.000 Well, you're also a crazy motorcycle rider. 1.00

00:56:11.000 That's true. 0.99

00:56:11.000 I got that. 0.99

00:56:12.000 I need to ask you this because we brought this up the last time.

00:56:14.000 Who was it on the podcast?

00:56:16.000 We were talking about a bike that you had?

00:56:18.000 It was with Bert.

00:56:18.000 I couldn't remember the bike that you had, but you had some crazy, big, giant, wide Japanese super bike that was like a cruiser.

00:56:27.000 It's Triumph.

00:56:28.000 It's called the Triumph Rocket 3. Is that a Triumph?

00:56:31.000 Yeah.

00:56:31.000 That's the one I'm talking about?

00:56:32.000 It's a 2.3 liter motorcycle.

00:56:35.000 Yeah, so the engine is bigger than a lot of car engines.

00:56:39.000 I'm confused then.

00:56:41.000 No, the bike itself is big.

00:56:43.000 But this isn't the bike I'm talking about.

00:56:45.000 No, no, no.

00:56:45.000 It's from a long time ago, man.

00:56:47.000 It's from like 10 years ago you had a bike.

00:56:49.000 You had this crazy wide bike that was a Japanese bike. 0.93

00:56:52.000 Maybe it was a Suzuki Hayabusa?

00:56:54.000 No, no, no.

00:56:55.000 It wasn't one of those rice rocket bikes.

00:56:59.000 Was it my Ducati?

00:57:00.000 I had a custom Ducati?

00:57:02.000 No, no, no.

00:57:02.000 It was a Japanese bike.

00:57:03.000 It was Japanese.

00:57:04.000 But it was a big-ass cruiser.

00:57:05.000 It was one of those...

00:57:06.000 Oh, I know what you're talking about.

00:57:08.000 You're talking about...

00:57:08.000 It's called the Valkyrie Rune.

00:57:10.000 R-U-N-E. Yes! 1.00

00:57:12.000 That's it!

00:57:12.000 Oh, yeah.

00:57:12.000 I remember that.

00:57:13.000 Yeah.

00:57:14.000 Yeah, as a matter of fact, that's what I had before the Triumph Rockets.

00:57:17.000 Yes!

00:57:18.000 I couldn't remember the name of that.

00:57:19.000 Man, good recall, Joe.

00:57:20.000 Yeah, that bike was one of a kind.

00:57:23.000 That thing looked like a spaceship, like you were in that Tron movie.

00:57:27.000 You know what?

00:57:28.000 That's it.

00:57:28.000 There it is.

00:57:29.000 That's it.

00:57:29.000 No, that's not it.

00:57:30.000 No, that's the Triumph.

00:57:32.000 That's a Valkyrie, but look up R-U-N-E. Rune.

00:57:36.000 Yeah.

00:57:36.000 So there's a different Valkyrie Rune?

00:57:38.000 Yeah, the Valkyrie Rune was a custom version they made.

00:57:40.000 Was it a Honda?

00:57:41.000 Yeah, it was a Honda.

00:57:42.000 I think they made it.

00:57:42.000 Yeah, that was it right there.

00:57:43.000 That's it.

00:57:44.000 Yeah.

00:57:45.000 You had that.

00:57:47.000 I remember.

00:57:47.000 Yeah, I had that.

00:57:48.000 That bike was bad.

00:57:49.000 Why didn't you bring it?

00:57:51.000 Did you bring it to the factory or something?

00:57:52.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:57:53.000 I saw that thing and I was like, what the fuck is this? 0.93

00:57:57.000 Part of why I got rid of that bike, Joe, I'll be honest, Polishing that thing. 0.98

00:58:02.000 That thing had more chrome in more places.

00:58:05.000 I'm telling you.

00:58:06.000 Look at the size of it.

00:58:07.000 Everything on that bike was chromed.

00:58:09.000 That's beautiful.

00:58:10.000 The engine, the entire front end.

00:58:12.000 And I was like, man, I can't spend all day cleaning this thing.

00:58:16.000 It was a great bike, though.

00:58:17.000 Fun bike.

00:58:17.000 But it seems like a bike where if you accidentally laid it down, it would take forever to get that thing back up.

00:58:22.000 Yeah, it's a heavy bike.

00:58:23.000 About 800 pounds.

00:58:24.000 800 pounds for a bike.

00:58:26.000 Beautiful.

00:58:26.000 You know who bought a group of those?

00:58:29.000 Who?

00:58:29.000 Clooney.

00:58:30.000 George Clooney?

00:58:31.000 Clooney bought six of them.

00:58:32.000 Why?

00:58:33.000 For him and his buddies.

00:58:35.000 Yeah, for him and his buddies to ride, he bought six of them. 0.99

00:58:37.000 God damn, is this you? 0.99

00:58:38.000 No. 1.00

00:58:39.000 I was like, you don't have fat ass like that. 1.00

00:58:42.000 Nah. 1.00

00:58:42.000 Look how cool that paint job is on that thing. 1.00

00:58:44.000 Yeah, he did that paint.

00:58:45.000 That's custom paint.

00:58:46.000 Now, do they still make that thing?

00:58:48.000 No, they only made it for one year.

00:58:51.000 What?

00:58:52.000 Yeah, like a limited release.

00:58:53.000 They did it for one year. 0.99

00:58:54.000 It must have been stupid fast. 1.00

00:58:56.000 It was pretty fast. 1.00

00:58:57.000 Yeah, it was pretty fast.

00:58:58.000 For a cruiser, it was very fast.

00:59:01.000 Now, are those comfortable to ride?

00:59:02.000 Is that like the idea behind them?

00:59:04.000 It's comfortable. 1.00

00:59:05.000 Because I'm a pussy. 1.00

00:59:06.000 I don't fuck with bikes. 1.00

00:59:07.000 Right now, I have an Indian Chieftain, right? 0.99

00:59:09.000 And this is my first, like, American V-Twin kind of cruiser.

00:59:13.000 And I've never been that guy.

00:59:15.000 Like, you know, I've never had a Harley or anything.

00:59:17.000 But I saw this bike at the dealer, and it was just absolutely beautiful.

00:59:22.000 And I rode it, and I guess I'm getting older.

00:59:25.000 There was something about leaning back with my feet forward and the stereo playing, and I was like, oh, yeah. 1.00

00:59:31.000 Yeah, I like this shit. 0.99

00:59:32.000 I remember leaning forward like being a jockey and going fast, and now I'm like, nah, this is me. 1.00

00:59:38.000 You like cruising now?

00:59:39.000 I like cruising.

00:59:40.000 I like touring.

00:59:41.000 I like going on trips, traveling.

00:59:43.000 That's it right there?

00:59:43.000 Yeah, the red one up in the top middle.

00:59:46.000 Ooh, that's you?

00:59:47.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:59:48.000 Oh, man, look at that thing.

00:59:49.000 Yeah, I got it outside.

00:59:50.000 When we're done, I'll show it to you.

00:59:51.000 And those bags in the back, do you keep stuff in those things?

00:59:54.000 What do you keep?

00:59:55.000 Books?

00:59:55.000 Yeah, you can carry.

00:59:56.000 What do you keep in there?

00:59:57.000 What do you keep in there?

00:59:59.000 That's what I use for whatever.

01:00:01.000 You know what you keep in there?

01:00:02.000 Her purse.

01:00:03.000 Wow, that's right.

01:00:04.000 Because this guy told me that they call those baggers, that style of bike.

01:00:07.000 And he said, man, chicks love baggers. 1.00

01:00:09.000 And he ain't kidding.

01:00:10.000 They love it.

01:00:11.000 They love it.

01:00:12.000 Oh, let me buy my purse back here.

01:00:14.000 Yep.

01:00:16.000 Now, that's a big cruiser, right?

01:00:17.000 Is that a loud bike?

01:00:18.000 No.

01:00:19.000 No, it's not loud.

01:00:20.000 It'll be a little louder next year.

01:00:22.000 I'm going to put pipes on it this winter.

01:00:24.000 Oh, you're getting radical.

01:00:24.000 But I'm not going crazy like straight pipes that set off car alarms.

01:00:30.000 No, just a little bit louder.

01:00:32.000 Now, when you have a bike like that, the idea is that they're slower, right?

01:00:37.000 But they're more comfortable?

01:00:39.000 Is that the idea?

01:00:39.000 You know what that bike is, man?

01:00:41.000 That bike is Sunset Strip and PCH. Ah, just cruising.

01:00:45.000 You know?

01:00:46.000 Yeah.

01:00:46.000 Looking good.

01:00:47.000 Yeah, that's what that is.

01:00:49.000 Comfortable, you look good, you got a stereo, and you're just chilling.

01:00:53.000 Now, when you say you have a stereo, you can hear it?

01:00:55.000 Oh, yeah.

01:00:56.000 So you're blasting it, so everybody hears it.

01:00:58.000 Yeah.

01:00:58.000 Isn't that weird?

01:00:59.000 It's a little weird.

01:01:00.000 Like, I don't like being that guy when I'm at a light.

01:01:03.000 You know what I mean?

01:01:04.000 But when you're riding along, nobody's really hearing it that much.

01:01:08.000 You know, you're passing people.

01:01:09.000 But yeah, when you're sitting at a light, and I know guys who go with, you know, a thousand watts, and their bags, their saddlebag is a speaker.

01:01:17.000 Like, they're...

01:01:17.000 They're broadcasting.

01:01:19.000 You know, I don't want to be that guy.

01:01:21.000 But it is kind of nice.

01:01:22.000 Again, this is stuff that I hadn't done until I got this bike, right? 0.99

01:01:26.000 But now I'm realizing, like, this shit ain't bad. 0.97

01:01:28.000 If I'm cruising down, you know, Mulholland or PCH or something like that, and I'm listening to music, I'm like, yeah, I can do this. 0.98

01:01:35.000 But how can you hear the music over the sound of the engine?

01:01:38.000 The speakers are loud enough.

01:01:40.000 The system's loud enough.

01:01:41.000 What kind of music are you playing on?

01:01:43.000 Mostly jazz.

01:01:44.000 I'm chilling.

01:01:45.000 Jazz!

01:01:45.000 Jesus Christ.

01:01:46.000 I'm a jazz guy.

01:01:47.000 Jazz and hip-hop.

01:01:48.000 Those are my two.

01:01:49.000 You really do like jazz?

01:01:50.000 You're one of those people.

01:01:51.000 You legitimately like it.

01:01:52.000 I legitimately love jazz, man.

01:01:54.000 I always assume that jazz is one of those things that weird dudes put on to pretend to girls that they're into jazz.

01:02:01.000 They're like, oh, he's so sophisticated.

01:02:03.000 He likes jazz.

01:02:04.000 There's some jazz that is like that.

01:02:07.000 And I'll admit, I had to learn that level of jazz.

01:02:10.000 There's a level of jazz that's like... 1.00

01:02:13.000 Like this girl I dated, she would be like, oh, you listen to that sketchy jazz shit. 1.00

01:02:17.000 Sketchy? 1.00

01:02:17.000 That's the shit you have to listen to to learn, because in the beginning, only other musicians understand it, right? 1.00

01:02:23.000 And I know some jazz musicians, and they were breaking it down. 0.99

01:02:26.000 But there's a lot of jazz that's just...

01:02:29.000 I don't know how to explain.

01:02:30.000 It's music played by master musicians.

01:02:34.000 And that's why it's good.

01:02:35.000 Because when you listen to a guy like Robert Glasper, who's really hot now, or Herbie Hancock, like when you listen to Herbie Hancock play a piano, you're like, oh, that's how it's supposed to sound.

01:02:46.000 You know what I mean?

01:02:46.000 Because he's just...

01:02:48.000 He just has mastered that instrument.

01:02:50.000 So yeah, I listen to some of that. 0.98

01:02:54.000 There's times when it's out there and it's meditative and shit like that. 0.69

01:02:57.000 But don't get me wrong, you might pass by, I might be cranking Jay-Z. I love hip-hop, love old-school hip-hop, the shit I grew up with, the old 80s, 90s. 0.95

01:03:08.000 Do you play music at all? 0.96

01:03:10.000 No.

01:03:11.000 So a lot of people that are into jazz actually play music.

01:03:14.000 Yeah, a lot of them are.

01:03:15.000 I think I appreciate it because I have no musical talent.

01:03:19.000 So masters of it fascinate me.

01:03:22.000 And in the last 10 years, I've been doing these jazz cruises, hosting jazz festivals and this and that.

01:03:29.000 And I found it's really true.

01:03:30.000 Well, you know this because you know musicians too.

01:03:32.000 That thing about every musician wants to be a comic and every comic wants to be a musician.

01:03:37.000 Yeah.

01:03:37.000 I definitely have this mutual admiration thing with jazz artists.

01:03:41.000 Like, man, I wish I could play that.

01:03:43.000 And they're like, man, I wish I was funny. 0.99

01:03:46.000 Yeah, well, there's something about they can, not jazz necessarily, but people in bands, they can play the same shit forever. 0.98

01:03:54.000 That's one thing that you and I can't do. 0.88

01:03:56.000 I get on Jazz Artists about that all the time.

01:03:59.000 There's a track called So What by Miles Davis, right?

01:04:02.000 Classic jazzy.

01:04:04.000 Miles wrote this in 1959, and you can play it, and you're considered brilliant. 0.99

01:04:10.000 How does that shit work? 0.99

01:04:12.000 How does that work? 1.00

01:04:13.000 At no point can I do Eddie Murphy's Goony Goo Hoo.

01:04:16.000 And suddenly be, that Alonzo's a brilliant comic.

01:04:19.000 You hear that Goody Google routine?

01:04:20.000 Imagine if you did some Woody Allen from 59. Yeah, you gotta do some 59. Yeah.

01:04:26.000 59 comedy. 1.00

01:04:27.000 You'd get fucking rocks thrown at you. 1.00

01:04:29.000 Isn't that weird? 1.00

01:04:30.000 Like, comedy from 59 is terrible.

01:04:32.000 Yeah.

01:04:33.000 Try listening to some old Lenny Bruce.

01:04:34.000 I'm a huge Lenny Bruce fan.

01:04:36.000 I've framed Lenny Bruce posters in my home.

01:04:39.000 But if you try to listen to it today, the culture has bypassed these ideas.

01:04:44.000 Yeah.

01:04:45.000 It was...

01:04:46.000 Revolutionary and groundbreaking at the time, because the culture was so childish and infantile, and its ideas and understanding of weird concepts or abstract concepts or things like censorship or racism or any of the things that Lindy Bruce covered,

01:05:03.000 and when he was covering them back then, they were groundbreaking.

01:05:06.000 But now, a lot of the stuff he's saying is just, duh.

01:05:09.000 But I think a lot of those comics, because years ago we were having this debate.

01:05:14.000 This is before rape, okay?

01:05:17.000 We were having this debate about Cosby.

01:05:19.000 You got to put that qualifier in now.

01:05:21.000 Yeah, you always have to.

01:05:22.000 And it was, if he started today, would he make it?

01:05:27.000 And I argued yes, because his comedy would have been different.

01:05:31.000 Like, he still...

01:05:32.000 You know what I mean?

01:05:33.000 Like, Lenny Bruce, he wouldn't have been talking about the things he was talking about in 59 or 60. He'd be talking about the same shit that we talk about today. 0.99

01:05:42.000 But he still would have had that brilliant comic mind, and he still would have been... 0.99

01:05:46.000 Who knows what he'd have been talking about, because he'd have been kicking down doors today.

01:05:50.000 Sure.

01:05:50.000 So he would have been just at some, you know, different...

01:05:54.000 But I think those comics...

01:05:56.000 Most of them, definitely the brilliant ones, the top ones, would be funny today.

01:06:02.000 They just talk about the topics we talk about.

01:06:04.000 100%.

01:06:04.000 Yeah, I think so, too.

01:06:05.000 I think it's just a matter of the time and the era that they existed in. 0.99

01:06:09.000 But conversely, if you took someone from today, like if you took Dave Chappelle, and you had Dave Chappelle doing stand-up in 1960, they'd probably be like, what the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

01:06:20.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:06:20.000 What are you doing? 0.98

01:06:21.000 You're talking about a baby selling crack?

01:06:22.000 Oh, you're talking about, yeah.

01:06:24.000 What?

01:06:24.000 The baby has kids to feed?

01:06:26.000 1999 Chappelle in 1959 never would have worked.

01:06:31.000 Well, it's just, it's not relevant.

01:06:34.000 Right.

01:06:34.000 It has to be relevant to the time.

01:06:36.000 You know, a brilliant comedian of today trying to talk about the same subjects we talk about today.

01:06:41.000 Just, you...

01:06:43.000 You know, I mean, that's the weird thing about comedy.

01:06:46.000 It really does reflect the era in which it's performed in.

01:06:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:06:49.000 It's the culture that we're in.

01:06:51.000 I mean, it was, you know, it was vaudeville, right?

01:06:54.000 When all you had to do was juggle and hit a guy with a hammer.

01:06:57.000 Yeah, right?

01:06:59.000 That was old Jerry Lewis.

01:07:00.000 Oh, man, he got that old hammer bit.

01:07:03.000 When he would do, like, a Japanese impression and put, like, a cigar in his mouth.

01:07:08.000 You know, like...

01:07:10.000 The buck tooth hole.

01:07:11.000 Why?

01:07:11.000 I never understood that.

01:07:13.000 Like, how does that represent Japanese people?

01:07:15.000 The buck tooth thing?

01:07:16.000 Who was it that did that?

01:07:17.000 There was a guy who did that.

01:07:19.000 That was like his thing.

01:07:20.000 I can't remember.

01:07:20.000 But I know you're talking about some picture in it.

01:07:23.000 Yeah.

01:07:24.000 Yeah, it definitely, definitely what we do.

01:07:26.000 Well, just in the time, I'd say even in the time we've been doing it.

01:07:30.000 I mean, I started in 93, and it's definitely different now than, you know, than it was then.

01:07:38.000 That was Def Jam.

01:07:39.000 Yeah.

01:07:40.000 Right?

01:07:40.000 When I was, excuse me, when I started out, Def Jam was it.

01:07:44.000 And I caught a lot of hell being a black comic who wasn't a Def Jam fan.

01:07:49.000 Style comic. 0.98

01:07:51.000 It was like, what the hell are you talking about?

01:07:53.000 Right, right, right.

01:07:54.000 It was like, I'm on NPR. You know, which now is cool, but in 94 probably wouldn't have been the coolest thing.

01:08:05.000 Yeah, isn't that interesting?

01:08:05.000 Like, you get expected to fit into a certain genre.

01:08:09.000 Right.

01:08:10.000 Yeah.

01:08:11.000 And then there's markets for that genre.

01:08:14.000 Yeah.

01:08:14.000 Like when Def Jam was big, there was a market for that kind of comedy.

01:08:18.000 You saw a lot of comedians mold themselves into that market.

01:08:23.000 Yeah, and I always thought, and I was lucky in that a few of the pros, like I remember Cedric the Entertainer was one, and Tommy Davidson was another.

01:08:35.000 And George Wallace was another who told me, like, just do you. 0.99

01:08:39.000 Like, you cannot, like, don't worry about that shit. 0.99

01:08:42.000 Because the only thing worse than being a Def Jam would be a fake Def Jam comic. 0.99

01:08:49.000 The only thing worse than not fitting in...

01:08:52.000 Would be a fake Def Jam, like for me to suddenly pretend, like I grew up in Queens, you know, I grew up in St. Albans, Queens.

01:08:59.000 Working class, black neighborhood, you know, my parents both had jobs, but we had a house with a yard and a two-car garage and a whole bit, right?

01:09:07.000 Not rich, not poor, just working class. 1.00

01:09:09.000 If I had tried to come at you like I grew up in the South Bronx, now I had friends from the South Bronx, you know, I had friends from Bed-Stuy, but it would have been fake.

01:09:18.000 And you'd have seen right through it. 0.99

01:09:20.000 If you were from Bed-Stuy, you'd have seen through my ass in a minute. 1.00

01:09:24.000 I might have fooled you if you were from, I don't know, Colorado or some shit. 1.00

01:09:29.000 Tommy Davidson. 0.97

01:09:30.000 What happened to Tommy Davidson?

01:09:31.000 Where's he at?

01:09:32.000 Tommy's still out there.

01:09:34.000 Tommy's still in clubs and doing his thing on rare occasions, once in a while.

01:09:38.000 But I'll always have love for Tommy.

01:09:40.000 Tommy helped me.

01:09:41.000 When I was new, Tommy took me on the road with him for a summer.

01:09:45.000 And I learned a lot and he introduced me to clubs that I got into.

01:09:49.000 You know, Tommy was a brilliant talent.

01:09:53.000 The drug thing really hurt Tommy.

01:09:55.000 He went through that phase, that era.

01:09:58.000 And I think what hurt him with that was that he developed a reputation for unreliability.

01:10:05.000 Hmm.

01:10:06.000 Where he, you know, people like, is he going to show up?

01:10:09.000 And it was the worst thing to hear.

01:10:12.000 But talent-wise, he was just amazing.

01:10:16.000 Like, I would watch Tommy work some nights.

01:10:18.000 When Tommy did a story, and I don't know how much you've ever seen him on stage or whatever.

01:10:22.000 I've seen him a bunch at the store. 0.93

01:10:23.000 When he starts becoming each different character in the story with his voices and singing and shit, brilliant. 0.98

01:10:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:10:31.000 Really. 0.99

01:10:31.000 I used to watch that and just be blown away that he had that kind of talent. 0.99

01:10:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:10:36.000 Fucking drug thing, man. 1.00

01:10:37.000 That's the drug, too. 1.00

01:10:38.000 That cocaine drug.

01:10:39.000 You know, when you talk about the drug thing, it's very rarely the pot.

01:10:42.000 You know, it's always the drug thing.

01:10:43.000 It's like, oh, what's he doing?

01:10:44.000 You know, meth, coke.

01:10:46.000 It's the speed ones, right?

01:10:48.000 That's the one that do people, or the booze. 1.00

01:10:50.000 The booze do people in, too.

01:10:52.000 Well, the thing, and you know, we talked about on the last podcast, I went through the coke and the crack thing.

01:10:57.000 And what happens when you get addicted to drugs like that, they just dominate your life.

01:11:01.000 Yeah.

01:11:02.000 So you can't, you can't do anything else because the drug dominates.

01:11:06.000 Now it's heroin, right?

01:11:07.000 Now you got people on Oxy and heroin and, you know, you literally see them in a nod.

01:11:13.000 I was in Cleveland.

01:11:15.000 Because early this past summer, downtown Cleveland, you know, Ohio's got this, like one of the bad opioid things, and you would just literally see people on the bench just nodding, like going into a nod. 0.93

01:11:27.000 Like, holy shit, this is, you know, I mean, it's been there, but when people are sitting out on a park bench just going into a nod, we got a problem.

01:11:36.000 Yeah, well, the problem in Massachusetts, there was an Anthony Bourdain show he was doing about it recently, where the problem in Massachusetts was that they were giving out pain pills to people so easily, and people got hooked, and then when they tried to get off the pain pills, 0.98

01:11:52.000 because they were tightening down the regulations on them, then people started turning to heroin.

01:11:57.000 Right.

01:11:58.000 And that was the thing in the 90s with the opioids when they came out with OxyContin and all those related drugs.

01:12:04.000 They told the doctors, no, it's not addicting.

01:12:07.000 Go ahead and write the prescription.

01:12:08.000 And now some of those pharmaceutical companies are paying like big lawsuits because they knew back then that it was addicting.

01:12:15.000 Yeah, I was just talking to another friend of mine the other day about pain pills.

01:12:18.000 He got addicted.

01:12:19.000 He was recovering from a surgery.

01:12:22.000 They gave him some pain pills, and then he had some complications with the recovery.

01:12:26.000 I think it was a...

01:12:27.000 Goddammit, I can't remember.

01:12:29.000 It was up near...

01:12:30.000 Maybe it's a knee surgery.

01:12:31.000 They had to do another surgery.

01:12:33.000 They had to go in because there's some scar tissue and peating.

01:12:36.000 It was like four weeks later.

01:12:38.000 They go and do another surgery.

01:12:40.000 They give him more pain pills.

01:12:42.000 So now he's on pain pills for three months.

01:12:44.000 And then he tries to just get off of him.

01:12:46.000 And he's sick.

01:12:47.000 Yeah, you have to be taken off of a medical.

01:12:51.000 You're not supposed to just go cold turkey.

01:12:53.000 Some people do.

01:12:54.000 But meanwhile, no one told him.

01:12:55.000 No, nobody tells you. 0.71

01:12:56.000 Nobody told him anything and he's all of a sudden a heroin addict. 0.99

01:12:59.000 He's like, what in the fuck happened? 1.00

01:13:00.000 I'm an opioid addict. 0.99

01:13:01.000 I had a tooth extracted and they gave me like, I don't know, 20 Vicodin or something, you know, for the week or something.

01:13:09.000 It's like...

01:13:10.000 It's a tooth.

01:13:11.000 Once it's gone, it's gone.

01:13:13.000 I'm going to be okay.

01:13:14.000 It's going to be sore for a day.

01:13:16.000 But it's what they do.

01:13:17.000 It's how they write the script.

01:13:19.000 And then you get people who will sell them, right?

01:13:22.000 Who will be like, oh, I got these pills.

01:13:24.000 I can just sell them.

01:13:26.000 I sold mine when I had my knee operation.

01:13:28.000 It was either Vicodin or Percocet.

01:13:30.000 I can't remember which one it was. 0.97

01:13:31.000 But it made me so fucked up that I sold them to a friend of mine at the pool hall. 1.00

01:13:36.000 So I can't take this shit. 1.00

01:13:37.000 This shit's put me in a coma. 1.00

01:13:38.000 I took Vicodin once in the same way. 1.00

01:13:40.000 I got sick.

01:13:41.000 I didn't like the feeling and I didn't understand why people did.

01:13:45.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:13:46.000 This is the high you want?

01:13:48.000 I have a friend who's a musician who is really creative on Vicodin, he said.

01:13:52.000 He writes music on Vicodin.

01:13:54.000 I'm like, what?

01:13:55.000 Like, what?

01:13:56.000 Yeah.

01:13:56.000 He plays classical guitar?

01:13:58.000 He takes Vicodin and just zones out and writes classical guitar music.

01:14:01.000 I'm like, ugh.

01:14:03.000 I don't get it, man. 0.98

01:14:04.000 I felt so stupid when I took that. 0.94

01:14:06.000 Yeah, I didn't like that. 0.89

01:14:09.000 I didn't like that feeling.

01:14:10.000 I don't mind being in a little pain.

01:14:12.000 It's like...

01:14:13.000 I get it.

01:14:14.000 I'm hurt.

01:14:15.000 Yeah.

01:14:16.000 There is a reason you have pain, right? 0.99

01:14:18.000 It's your body saying, hey, some shit's wrong here. 0.99

01:14:20.000 Exactly. 0.99

01:14:21.000 Pay attention to it.

01:14:22.000 Or don't use this body part, right?

01:14:25.000 Like if your elbow hurts or something, your body's saying, okay, don't use the elbow for a week. 1.00

01:14:29.000 Yeah, hey, fuck it. 1.00

01:14:30.000 Don't pick that up. 1.00

01:14:31.000 Ow! 1.00

01:14:32.000 Exactly.

01:14:33.000 But if you're just numb, it's just so...

01:14:36.000 Another reason not to be in the NFL. People just need to be comfortable being uncomfortable.

01:14:42.000 Just relax.

01:14:44.000 Just understand that this is going to make you appreciate the good times, right?

01:14:48.000 Because right now you're in a bad place.

01:14:50.000 But that doesn't happen, man.

01:14:52.000 A long time ago, Stan Hope did a bit about that, right?

01:14:56.000 About anything you feel, there's a drug for it.

01:14:58.000 Like any physical or emotional feeling you have, there's a drug for it.

01:15:02.000 I didn't see that bit.

01:15:03.000 It's a long time ago.

01:15:05.000 But he's right.

01:15:06.000 That's right.

01:15:07.000 Yeah.

01:15:08.000 Anything, there's a drug to make it better.

01:15:10.000 When I got my nose fixed, I got a deviated septum operated on. 0.99

01:15:13.000 They pulled out a bunch of scar tissue and shit. 0.98

01:15:16.000 But I'm telling you, there was no pain. 0.99

01:15:18.000 I mean, it was uncomfortable for as much of the time as they had to pack it.

01:15:22.000 It was packed up with gauze or these foam things with tubes hanging out that dripped, like the blood was dripping out of it.

01:15:31.000 That was uncomfortable.

01:15:32.000 But when I mean uncomfortable, like...

01:15:34.000 It doesn't feel good to shove both fingers up your nose and leave them there.

01:15:37.000 But I wasn't in pain.

01:15:38.000 And my doctor was pushing the pills on me.

01:15:41.000 He gave me two different prescriptions for pain pills.

01:15:44.000 For Vicodins and I think the other ones were Oxys.

01:15:47.000 I was like, man, this doesn't hurt.

01:15:49.000 And he's like, well, it might hurt later.

01:15:50.000 I'm like...

01:15:52.000 How's it gonna hurt?

01:15:54.000 Something's gonna change?

01:15:55.000 What's gonna change?

01:15:56.000 How's it gonna hurt later?

01:15:57.000 Right now, my nose feels uncomfortable.

01:16:00.000 It's not painful, though.

01:16:02.000 I think people just, you get told by your doctor that you're gonna be in pain, and you might be uncomfortable, so I have some pills for you, and you're like, Jesus, I better take these pills before it gets bad.

01:16:11.000 I better take these pills before I can't take it anymore.

01:16:15.000 And you start freaking out.

01:16:17.000 I will say this.

01:16:18.000 I did find out the medical use for cocaine and it absolutely works.

01:16:23.000 Numbing.

01:16:23.000 Yeah.

01:16:24.000 I had a ripped cornea.

01:16:27.000 Yeah.

01:16:28.000 Playing ball.

01:16:28.000 This guy's finger ripped across.

01:16:30.000 And I'm talking the kind of pain where you just hit the ground like you're just done. 0.99

01:16:36.000 Like your body is like, don't do shit. 0.99

01:16:38.000 And I went to the doctor and that's what they use. 0.99

01:16:40.000 They put liquid cocaine eye drops in my eye.

01:16:44.000 Wow.

01:16:44.000 And the pain disappeared instantly.

01:16:46.000 I was like, doc, can I? And he was like, no, we don't prescribe these.

01:16:49.000 You have to come in and we have to put them in the eye.

01:16:52.000 But I will say, you know how when you go to the doctor and you like, make it better?

01:16:57.000 Like, that's always your dream.

01:16:58.000 Like, just make it better so I can leave.

01:16:59.000 He made it better.

01:17:01.000 The pain just went away.

01:17:03.000 They put lidocaine up my nose when I got the gauze sucked out, and they pulled the plugs out, and he sprays lidocaine up there.

01:17:12.000 I've had that stuff a couple of times.

01:17:13.000 One time from a real bad sunburn, I put lidocaine all over my back, and it's the same feeling.

01:17:19.000 I'll never do it again.

01:17:20.000 I'll just take the pain.

01:17:21.000 Because the feeling that you get from lidocaine is just this gross...

01:17:25.000 Weird.

01:17:26.000 You feel sketchy.

01:17:27.000 Your heart feels sketchy.

01:17:30.000 You feel like you don't want to eat, but you know you probably should.

01:17:35.000 Lidocaine gives you a very weird feeling.

01:17:37.000 I was eating that night.

01:17:39.000 I went to dinner, and I was eating at the steak place.

01:17:42.000 I was barely hungry. 0.99

01:17:43.000 I'm like, why do I feel like shit? 0.99

01:17:45.000 And then I realized, like, oh, they pumped that fucking lidocaine in my nose. 1.00

01:17:49.000 Oh, so it went in your system. 1.00

01:17:51.000 Like, it was in your nose, but it went in your system. 0.60

01:17:53.000 I swallowed it.

01:17:54.000 I could taste it.

01:17:55.000 I could taste it in the back.

01:17:56.000 You know, because they're pumping it up your nose.

01:17:58.000 Because I should have just had them yank that stuff out.

01:18:00.000 Just pull it out.

01:18:01.000 Because it was really no big deal.

01:18:02.000 Right.

01:18:03.000 You know, but they have you convinced that you're going to be in agony, you know?

01:18:07.000 Yeah, and different people have different pain tolerance.

01:18:10.000 Yeah.

01:18:10.000 You know, some people...

01:18:11.000 Are pussies? 1.00

01:18:12.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:18:13.000 Yeah, some people can.

01:18:14.000 And then others can, you know, can take it.

01:18:16.000 Well, that's the thing about jujitsu.

01:18:18.000 Like jujitsu, doing jujitsu for 20 plus years, whatever I've done, you're always in pain.

01:18:23.000 You just get used to compartmentalizing. 0.90

01:18:26.000 Like, oh, my arm's fucked up. 0.98

01:18:27.000 Just accept it and deal with it. 1.00

01:18:29.000 Because if you took a pain pill every time you were injured from jujitsu, yeah, you're a junkie.

01:18:37.000 You're going to be a junkie, you know?

01:18:39.000 That's why I avoid jujitsu.

01:18:41.000 Good.

01:18:42.000 Good move.

01:18:43.000 Good call.

01:18:44.000 Stay on those motorcycles.

01:18:46.000 Yeah.

01:18:47.000 When I used to play basketball all the time, though, that's the way it was.

01:18:50.000 It was like my knees always hurt.

01:18:52.000 Yeah, I would imagine.

01:18:53.000 Yeah, something, you know.

01:18:54.000 And the funniest one, we were in this basketball league, and everyone on my team was like mid-30s, you know, 32, 35, whatever.

01:19:04.000 And we were playing these kids.

01:19:05.000 These kids were like 19, 20. And we walked into the gym, and they get right on the court.

01:19:10.000 They're running, and our whole team is sitting there. 0.99

01:19:13.000 You're wrapping shit up with tape. 0.98

01:19:15.000 You're rubbing Bengay or some whatever offense you got. 0.99

01:19:18.000 Like, our whole team is on the bench just warming up, like rubbing and wrapping, looking at them like, well, we beat them.

01:19:24.000 You know, we were veterans.

01:19:25.000 We knew what we were doing.

01:19:26.000 But it was such an obvious thing at the beginning, like, yeah, fellas, we're getting old.

01:19:30.000 And now all of those guys I used to play ball with all play golf.

01:19:34.000 That's the retired sport. 1.00

01:19:36.000 Well, playing ball on hard concrete, too, like those hard surfaces, that shit has got to be terrible for you. 0.99

01:19:43.000 All the stop and start and bouncing around. 0.99

01:19:46.000 Well, doctors will tell you the knees aren't made for sports, especially not running and jumping sports.

01:19:52.000 But when you're a kid, nobody's going to tell you not to play ball.

01:19:57.000 It's funny to me when I'm watching college basketball and they're like, these guys are tired.

01:20:02.000 I'm like, no, they're not.

01:20:04.000 They're 19 and they're playing basketball.

01:20:06.000 If they weren't here, you know where they'd be?

01:20:07.000 Playing basketball.

01:20:08.000 They'd be at the gym or they'd be in the park.

01:20:12.000 There are a lot of things.

01:20:14.000 They're not tired right now.

01:20:17.000 They may have lost concentration.

01:20:18.000 They may have this, that, the other.

01:20:20.000 But tired?

01:20:21.000 You're a 19-year-old athlete.

01:20:23.000 You know what kind of shape those guys are in?

01:20:25.000 They're not tired.

01:20:26.000 Well, basketball on a hardwood floor seems to have a little gift to it.

01:20:30.000 Yeah, it's got a little gift to it.

01:20:31.000 And the shoes are so much better now.

01:20:34.000 I mean, you ever put on a pair of Converse Chuck Taylors?

01:20:37.000 I wear them all the time.

01:20:38.000 Now, imagine running and jumping in those.

01:20:41.000 Well, there's an argument that that's better for you because you develop strength in your feet.

01:20:46.000 What you're dealing with with these basketball shoes is essentially like a big rubber cast.

01:20:51.000 And that these rubber casts and all the cushioning and all that jazz actually weakens your feet.

01:20:55.000 I don't buy it.

01:20:56.000 Really?

01:20:57.000 Because I have this one pair of Nikes.

01:21:00.000 I don't know what they are.

01:21:01.000 They're Air something, but they got the full Air sole.

01:21:03.000 And they're the only shoes I can run in.

01:21:05.000 Right, you, today.

01:21:06.000 But you weigh what, 240?

01:21:08.000 Yeah, 250, yeah.

01:21:10.000 But so are they.

01:21:11.000 Make no mistake, these guys are big.

01:21:13.000 These guys are 6'7", 200, 200 plus.

01:21:17.000 All that stomping and everything like that.

01:21:19.000 I guess, like, especially you've got to consider basketball players are playing how many days a week for how many months a year.

01:21:25.000 I mean, and then in the offseason, it's not like they just lay around and get fat.

01:21:28.000 Right.

01:21:28.000 They're working out in the offseason.

01:21:30.000 And also, you've got to look at how much, you know, money is invested in that player.

01:21:35.000 You know what I mean?

01:21:35.000 Like, you just, what did Russell Westbrook just sign for 200 and...

01:21:40.000 Whatever million dollars, you better believe his feet are going to be taken care of.

01:21:44.000 Like, whatever shoes he's playing in are going to be the best thing possible for his feet, because you've got $40 million a year invested in that.

01:21:52.000 When a guy gets a contract like that, do the hoes just start circling like vultures? 1.00

01:21:56.000 Oh, no, they've been there.

01:21:57.000 They've been there.

01:21:58.000 But how does that work?

01:21:59.000 Hose is around way before $200 million.

01:22:02.000 What?

01:22:03.000 But once that happens, they start thinking, all I need is one sperm to crack the egg, and I'm good.

01:22:09.000 Right?

01:22:09.000 There's a lot of gals out there like that.

01:22:11.000 Back in, okay, what was it?

01:22:13.000 88, 89. I used to play ball at Valley College all the time, like pickup ball.

01:22:18.000 But it was high level.

01:22:20.000 I played with guys who had been in D1, who had played Division I league and stuff like that.

01:22:27.000 The NBA rehab was in Van Nuys.

01:22:29.000 And on weekends, they would come to the gym and they'd play ball with us, right?

01:22:34.000 And I got to know a few players.

01:22:35.000 And this one guy told me, and this is in, like I said, 88, 89. He said, an NBA kid is worth $100,000 a year for 18 years.

01:22:46.000 He said, these chicks poke holes in the condoms. 1.00

01:22:50.000 He was like, you can't trust any of them.

01:22:53.000 And that was then, with that kind of money.

01:22:55.000 That was back when, you know, five million was a huge contract, right?

01:23:00.000 So you can only imagine now.

01:23:03.000 A hundred grand a year seems fairly inexpensive.

01:23:06.000 Take care of a child.

01:23:07.000 But again, in 89, this was back in 89, so now that hundred grand is probably half a million.

01:23:13.000 Probably, right?

01:23:14.000 And I think the average salary in the NBA, including the guys on the bench, is like 2.3 million.

01:23:22.000 Isn't that funny too?

01:23:23.000 Because like when you you think about like say the average person makes like what 70 grand 60 grand a year Is that minimum wage?

01:23:29.000 I mean not minimum wage a middle class was middle middle class like 60 70 here in California it is I think across America I think it's like 40 something so but the idea that This baby would live like that.

01:23:43.000 It's like, no, no, no, no, no.

01:23:45.000 Even though the guy doesn't even know the kid, and she's taking care of it, doesn't even know her, if he has to be child support, you're playing child support lavish.

01:23:57.000 Yeah.

01:23:58.000 Lavish.

01:23:58.000 Yeah.

01:23:59.000 You can't, like, the average person, like, if the average family is existing off of $50,000 to $70,000 a year, but this woman wants half a million for this super baby. 1.00

01:24:10.000 Yeah.

01:24:10.000 It's fascinating, right?

01:24:11.000 It's like, we have these weird rules, like, well, how, wait a minute.

01:24:15.000 Why is that the case?

01:24:17.000 Because it's what dad makes, right?

01:24:18.000 I know, but it's weird, right?

01:24:19.000 It's proportionate to what dad makes.

01:24:20.000 But I mean, you're not asking someone to pay for a kid's living expenses.

01:24:24.000 You're asking someone to keep a kid in the lap of luxury, and then the mom's going to buy a car and purses and get her nails did and... 1.00

01:24:32.000 That's the fight that dads have, right?

01:24:33.000 A lot of the dads are like, well, just send me the bill.

01:24:35.000 Send me the bill for private school.

01:24:37.000 What is this here?

01:24:38.000 Antonio, how do you say his name?

01:24:40.000 Oh, Cromartie.

01:24:40.000 Cromartie.

01:24:41.000 Just had number 14. Took his $3 million deal from the Colts and immediately used it to settle a child support dispute with a baby mama to avoid possible arrest in the process.

01:24:51.000 Cromartie was delinquent on child support payments to Rosamita Pierre.

01:24:56.000 Sounds like a lovely lady. 0.97

01:24:57.000 The mother of Alonzo's oldest child, aka number one of 13 kids.

01:25:02.000 He's got 14 now.

01:25:03.000 He's up to 14. He was ordered to pay her $4,000 per month.

01:25:08.000 That's not that bad.

01:25:09.000 That's actually reasonable.

01:25:11.000 Now multiply that by 14. That's a lot.

01:25:14.000 He got his tubes tied too last year and still had a kid. 1.00

01:25:17.000 Damn, that's some powerful sperm. 1.00

01:25:18.000 Let me see what he looks like. 1.00

01:25:20.000 Scroll up. 1.00

01:25:21.000 He's like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:25:28.000 Which is why, you know, when you get to Kaepernick and the boycott of football, and some people are mad at the players for playing, it's like, that's why you gotta play, because you got 14 kids. 0.99

01:25:39.000 Kaepernick and the boycott of football?

01:25:40.000 What does that have to do with child support?

01:25:42.000 Meaning that the...

01:25:46.000 Idea of black people boycotting football and then people saying, like, why do the players play? 0.99

01:25:50.000 Like, you know, screw them. 0.99

01:25:51.000 But everybody, every black player in the NFL just refused to play. 0.99

01:25:55.000 And it's like, no, that ain't going to happen. 0.89

01:25:58.000 They need their paychecks.

01:25:59.000 This whole national anthem thing, along with football, is very weird.

01:26:05.000 It's like, football players should be playing football. 0.96

01:26:08.000 UFC fighters don't have to fucking stand there with their hand over their heart to show allegiance and to show, you know... 0.96

01:26:14.000 Well, you're basically asking someone to be domesticated. 0.98

01:26:19.000 You're asking them to follow the rules.

01:26:22.000 The truth has come out like players didn't do it until, what was it, 2009 or something like that when the government started paying the NFL to have them do it.

01:26:31.000 Exactly.

01:26:32.000 Yeah, that whole thing is...

01:26:34.000 It's weird, man.

01:26:35.000 It's weird because you're asking them to be, you know, they have to give in.

01:26:43.000 You're asking them to follow the rule.

01:26:47.000 My problem with it, and I called it the misdirection, the protest never had to do with the flag.

01:26:53.000 The protest had to do with cops and the treatment, and he just did it at that point because that's a powerful statement to do it at that point, you know?

01:27:04.000 And...

01:27:06.000 Now the misdirection, the changing of the topic is making it about the flag.

01:27:10.000 And it's like, no, that's not what they were.

01:27:13.000 They were never protesting the flag or veterans or Americans.

01:27:18.000 And again, when you get into those rules of the flag, you're not supposed to have the flag on T-shirts or bikinis or hats or a million other things we sell.

01:27:27.000 With the flag on it.

01:27:28.000 Like if you want to talk about respecting the flag, we wouldn't do any of that.

01:27:32.000 And you summed it up.

01:27:34.000 I mean, it is.

01:27:35.000 It's about control, right?

01:27:36.000 It's the same thing with these freedom of speech marches, like where, yeah, it's okay to have freedom of speech as long as you're saying something I agree with.

01:27:44.000 Right, right.

01:27:45.000 The problem with this whole Kaepernick thing is that it's not an effective form of protest, too.

01:27:50.000 Because it's getting people pissed off for the wrong reasons, right?

01:27:52.000 Well, it was.

01:27:54.000 It's getting people thinking that you're protesting America itself. 0.99

01:27:57.000 And they're like, why don't you fucking move to Canada? 0.99

01:27:59.000 And people start getting crazy about it. 0.99

01:28:00.000 But what he's trying to do, or what he was trying to do, was protest all these unarmed people getting shot by cops.

01:28:08.000 So he takes a knee for that. 0.99

01:28:10.000 But the National Anthem doesn't have shit to do with those cops. 0.99

01:28:12.000 Right. 0.96

01:28:13.000 Well, it just became a thing of when one guy did it and he did it as a protest and he said he wanted to start the conversation and then the conversation got lost.

01:28:22.000 And now the conversation is completely lost and the argument is a completely different topic.

01:28:29.000 And, you know, but yeah, what you said, control is definitely part of it.

01:28:35.000 Same thing with the universities, right?

01:28:36.000 With free speech on the universities.

01:28:38.000 And, you know, when you look at a school like Berkeley, Berkeley had a reasonable argument.

01:28:42.000 It's like, look, when we bring one of these radical speakers here and it costs a million dollars for security, who's going to pay that?

01:28:50.000 It's like, if you're going to pay it, fine, we'll let you talk.

01:28:53.000 But if nobody's going to pay the million dollars for security, then we can't have these radical speakers here.

01:28:58.000 Well, sort of.

01:28:59.000 You know, the problem with that article is they've had those speakers there forever.

01:29:02.000 And then when they started having these Antifa protests, and they also started supporting these Antifa protests, that's a big issue.

01:29:09.000 They stopped having cops go after the Antifa people, and the Berkeley, literally, the chief of police was literally telling people, the mayor, was telling the police to stand down and let these people protest.

01:29:20.000 And not just protest.

01:29:22.000 They were being very violent and attacking things, and you're setting up a reaction-action event. 0.99

01:29:27.000 So if you have something like that where people are breaking windows and lighting things on fire or doing whatever they're doing, you're going to have people that say, fuck those people. 0.97

01:29:34.000 We're going to meet there and we're going to protest the anti-protest people. 0.97

01:29:39.000 And then next thing you know, you've got a real issue in your hands.

01:29:42.000 Well, but that's the point.

01:29:43.000 That's where we're at now, where everything has to be that big an issue.

01:29:48.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:29:48.000 20 years ago, 10 years ago at Berkeley, you could have had a speaker, a right-wing speaker that the school didn't agree with, and there would have been some protesters outside.

01:29:58.000 Just not even a couple years ago.

01:30:00.000 But then it became, and this is a social media effect, right?

01:30:04.000 The speaker...

01:30:08.000 Yeah.

01:30:21.000 And then they're like, okay, now it's because it makes the whole thing bigger.

01:30:25.000 It's like promoting a fight.

01:30:26.000 You know what I mean?

01:30:27.000 It's like promoting a fight.

01:30:29.000 It's one thing if two guys get into a fight, but if you promote that fight for a month, three months, six months ahead, that fight's going to be huge.

01:30:37.000 And this is the same thing.

01:30:39.000 These speakers, the protest is part of the publicity.

01:30:45.000 Right.

01:30:46.000 Right.

01:30:46.000 You know, so...

01:30:47.000 Well, there's speakers and then there's people that are provocateurs, right?

01:30:50.000 Like, you know, Milo Yiannopoulos.

01:30:51.000 Right.

01:30:51.000 That's a better term.

01:30:53.000 He's a provocateur.

01:30:53.000 I shouldn't say speakers.

01:30:54.000 I should say provocateurs.

01:30:56.000 Whereas Ben Shapiro is a speaker.

01:30:58.000 Ben Shapiro is an intellectual and he's a guy who's got some very solid arguments, whether you agree with him or not.

01:31:04.000 He's got some real facts to go with his arguments.

01:31:07.000 And they were...

01:31:10.000 He's a Jew and he wears a yarmulke and people are calling him a Nazi.

01:31:13.000 It's like this whole punch Nazi thing. 0.64

01:31:16.000 The arguments are getting so blurry and it's just like we were talking about before when it comes to gun control.

01:31:22.000 It's teams.

01:31:23.000 I'm on team left wing.

01:31:25.000 I support Antifa.

01:31:26.000 I'm on team right wing.

01:31:28.000 I support the conservatives and POTUS. The people that are calling Trump POTUS, you're defaming POTUS. It's fucking Trump.

01:31:38.000 It's Donald Trump. 1.00

01:31:39.000 I mean, if there's ever an argument that this is ridiculous, the fucking guy who was the host of The Apprentice is now the guy you're calling POTUS. Now, Joe, Joe, you're disrespecting the White House. 0.99

01:31:49.000 Disrespecting POTUS. I mean, it's literally like the Pope.

01:31:53.000 It gets to this almost like papal situation, right?

01:31:55.000 And again, these are the same people who said the exact same thing about Barack Obama last year, right?

01:32:03.000 Right.

01:32:05.000 The president has never been disgraced or insulted.

01:32:09.000 Like, really?

01:32:10.000 They insulted Obama when he wore a tan suit.

01:32:13.000 We played that a couple of weeks ago.

01:32:15.000 They lost their minds when Obama wore a tan suit.

01:32:16.000 I thought it was a big deal.

01:32:18.000 That was the end of America. 0.68

01:32:20.000 Disrespecting the office with off-color clothing.

01:32:23.000 It's a gang color. 0.60

01:32:25.000 That's right.

01:32:25.000 He's gang Sandy.

01:32:27.000 And then Michelle Obama wore a sleeveless dress. 0.76

01:32:31.000 And I think that was just, you know.

01:32:33.000 Didn't Alex Jones do something recently saying that Michelle Obama was a man?

01:32:37.000 Like, proof that Michelle Obama was a man? 1.00

01:32:40.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:32:41.000 He's on some shit today. 1.00

01:32:42.000 They'll do all that shit when Michelle ain't in the room. 1.00

01:32:45.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

01:32:48.000 It was easy for Donald Trump to call pro football players sons of bitches from Huntsville, Alabama. 0.99

01:32:53.000 Let's try it on the sideline with a few of them standing next to you. 1.00

01:32:57.000 Sons of bitches. 1.00

01:32:58.000 Yeah, fire those sons of bitches. 1.00

01:33:00.000 You're fired. 1.00

01:33:01.000 They shouldn't have them fucking stand for the national anthem. 0.99

01:33:03.000 First of all, if you want to have a national anthem for a game, what are you saying? 0.99

01:33:08.000 I mean, you're rallying up patriotism at a sporting event.

01:33:13.000 Sporting events are supposed to be entertaining. 0.99

01:33:15.000 It's supposed to remove us from all of our daily bullshit. 0.98

01:33:19.000 Right. 0.99

01:33:19.000 If it's going to be entertaining, be entertaining. 0.99

01:33:22.000 Sorry, I didn't mean it.

01:33:23.000 It's okay.

01:33:24.000 They did a thing this past week at the Rams game, like during the National Anthem.

01:33:28.000 How many people were in the beer line?

01:33:30.000 How many guys were taking a piss?

01:33:32.000 Oh, yeah.

01:33:33.000 You know what I mean?

01:33:34.000 It's not like everybody stopped.

01:33:37.000 Yeah, take a knee while you're pissing.

01:33:38.000 It's not like everybody stopped and turned and held their hand over their heart. 1.00

01:33:43.000 Like, yeah, well, I got my dick in my hand. 1.00

01:33:45.000 It's going to be people running into the bathroom beating people's asses for pissing during the National Anthem if you tell them they can. 1.00

01:33:52.000 It's just, the protest is ineffective, right? 0.98

01:33:56.000 Getting on your knees, it just causes too much controversy.

01:33:59.000 And here's the other problem with it.

01:34:01.000 It doesn't stop anything.

01:34:03.000 It doesn't stop cops from doing anything.

01:34:06.000 It doesn't even shed light on it.

01:34:07.000 It points to you, and people start talking about, well, what is it that you're protesting?

01:34:12.000 Well, we're mad at you because you're not standing up for the national anthem.

01:34:15.000 It creates all this noise.

01:34:17.000 And again, that's the part I call the misdirection, because initially when Kaepernick did it, It had some meaning.

01:34:24.000 It had some meaning to him, and it was about starting a conversation.

01:34:28.000 And when it became this bigger thing, like you're talking about, when it became this, oh, you're anti-American, you're anti-troops, or blah, blah, blah, now it's lost its effectiveness.

01:34:38.000 Now, yeah, you got to do something else, because that doesn't, you're right, it doesn't mean anything anymore.

01:34:44.000 People don't even know, they don't even know why you're doing it, but they hate you for doing it.

01:34:48.000 Well, there's too many people doing it now, too.

01:34:50.000 Well, why are you doing it?

01:34:51.000 I do it because I hate puppies.

01:34:52.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

01:34:54.000 And now everybody's doing it because they're mad at Trump, talking shit about the NFL. So you're getting just giant groups of people doing it now, much more so than before. 0.95

01:35:01.000 Yeah, and it's lost its effectiveness, it's lost its importance.

01:35:06.000 And the players, a lot of the players get caught in the middle, right?

01:35:09.000 Because if you do have a thing where your team says you can't do it, or you're going to be fined, or you're going to...

01:35:14.000 Are they saying that?

01:35:15.000 Yes.

01:35:16.000 The NBA said that it's against the rules.

01:35:19.000 The NBA. The NBA. But is anybody doing that in the NBA yet?

01:35:24.000 Well, they hadn't started playing.

01:35:26.000 The NBA just started this week in preseason.

01:35:28.000 Right, but the NBA in the past.

01:35:31.000 In the past, the NBA did things like they've worn I Can't Breathe t-shirts for Eric Garner.

01:35:38.000 Oh yeah, that's right.

01:35:39.000 And they've done things like that.

01:35:41.000 NBA players are a bit more sophisticated in their protests, and I think they're also more united.

01:35:49.000 Less head trauma.

01:35:50.000 You know, yeah.

01:35:51.000 Probably a big part of it.

01:35:53.000 They've also been encouraged, I think, to speak out, whereas I don't know that the NFL players are also encouraged to speak out in public on these topics.

01:36:02.000 I don't know if basketball players are necessarily encouraged to speak out, or the big difference with the NBA, the players are bigger than the team.

01:36:10.000 Right, right, right.

01:36:11.000 They're huge stars.

01:36:13.000 Yeah, so you have, like, LeBron is bigger than the Cavaliers.

01:36:17.000 Curry is bigger than the Warriors.

01:36:18.000 When LeBron tweeted, you bum, at the president, I was like, oh my goodness.

01:36:23.000 Like, where are we?

01:36:24.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:36:25.000 Where are we going where a fucking superstar pro athlete is tweeting, you bum, at the president of the United States who happens to be a reality show host? 0.99

01:36:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:36:34.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

01:36:36.000 This is crazy. 1.00

01:36:37.000 But theoretically, you know, look, we've elected a reality show host.

01:36:41.000 LeBron could be the president in 20 years.

01:36:43.000 100% with Vice President Kanye. 1.00

01:36:46.000 Vice President Kanye with a fucking Prozac drip. 1.00

01:36:50.000 He would have an IV bag dripping right into his arm while he's standing there zoning out, getting chubby. 1.00

01:36:56.000 Kim Kardashian is telling him what to do in his ear.

01:36:59.000 Kim Kardashian is the first lady.

01:37:00.000 Why the hell not? 0.77

01:37:01.000 Why the hell not? 0.98

01:37:03.000 Melania can barely speak English. 1.00

01:37:04.000 That's right.

01:37:05.000 They're talking about immigration, closing the border. 1.00

01:37:07.000 Like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:37:08.000 Where'd you get her? 1.00

01:37:10.000 Where'd you get her? 1.00

01:37:11.000 And she did lesbian porn. 1.00

01:37:13.000 I don't watch Bill Maher all the time, but apparently he did some kind of top ten list about Melania. 0.99

01:37:20.000 And if one of the jokes was, she has no first language.

01:37:27.000 Yeah.

01:37:28.000 That's a joke that Russell Beter said about Yoshi.

01:37:31.000 Yoshi Kobayashi. 0.94

01:37:33.000 He was saying, he goes, Yoshi speaks terrible English, but when you talk to people that speak Japanese, his Japanese sucks too. 0.97

01:37:39.000 It's like, you don't have a language, man. 0.97

01:37:41.000 You have no real language.

01:37:45.000 The whole thing, this football thing is very strange. 0.99

01:37:49.000 It's very strange because now they kicked these two high school kids off the team because they're following their heroes, so they say, fuck it, I'm going to take a knee too. 0.99

01:37:59.000 First of all, if you're taking a knee, you should at least be able to write an essay. 0.99

01:38:03.000 Tell me why you're taking a knee, son.

01:38:05.000 And you've got to know the difference between your, why you are, and why you apostrophe R-E. You've also got to be starting.

01:38:14.000 Yes.

01:38:15.000 You know what I mean?

01:38:15.000 If the starting quarterback takes a knee, there's a lot more latitude than a second string defensive end.

01:38:24.000 You know what I mean?

01:38:26.000 Trust me, if Aaron Rodgers, if Dak Prescott was taking a knee, this would be a whole different conversation.

01:38:34.000 Well, Colin Kaepernick wasn't a big star player.

01:38:37.000 He was, but he fell off.

01:38:39.000 Do you think he fell off because of the controversy and all the hate?

01:38:42.000 No, I don't know what it was.

01:38:43.000 He had started falling off before that.

01:38:47.000 So that was how he got back into the game?

01:38:49.000 Yeah, I don't know what it was.

01:38:50.000 But one of the arguments is, and it is true, he's a lot better than a lot of quarterbacks who have jobs.

01:38:57.000 See, that was the thing.

01:38:58.000 They said, no, it's not a conspiracy because of the protests, but then they showed the numbers of various backup quarterbacks who are in the league, and he's better than a lot of them.

01:39:09.000 And then one of the owners, I think it was Baltimore, where the coach wanted him, and the owner was like, no, I don't want him because of the protests.

01:39:16.000 So it became a thing of where they said he's not blackballed because of the protests, but then it came out, yeah, he was blackballed because of the protests.

01:39:25.000 And again, that's one of those things where, and you know this, with any athlete, your complaints depend on where you are in your career.

01:39:33.000 Sure.

01:39:34.000 Well, Tom Brady even said the president was divisive.

01:39:36.000 Yeah.

01:39:37.000 And when Tom Brady said that, everybody went, oh, Jesus.

01:39:39.000 Yeah.

01:39:39.000 Right, right.

01:39:40.000 He's not taking the knee yet, but they're hooking arms.

01:39:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:39:43.000 Everybody's hooking arms in unity.

01:39:45.000 Because when Trump spoke out against the NFL, now he's aiming at their money.

01:39:50.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:39:50.000 You know, when he's telling fans not to go to the games, like those owners love him, but now they're like, whoa, hold the fuck up now. 0.98

01:39:57.000 Yeah. 0.88

01:39:58.000 That's money out of our pocket. 0.80

01:39:59.000 Everybody's saying hold the fuck up now because it is working.

01:40:02.000 DirecTV just offered this gigantic refund for their NFL package because people are pissed off that people are taking a knee. 1.00

01:40:09.000 You're paying to see football, you fucks! 0.99

01:40:12.000 You're not paying to see people stand with their hand over their heart. 1.00

01:40:15.000 Like, what?

01:40:16.000 Here's the solution. 1.00

01:40:18.000 Take all that shit out of the game. 0.99

01:40:20.000 If you want the players to be compliant and submissive, you're asking the wrong thing. 0.99

01:40:26.000 You're talking about super athletes as what is essentially a group combat sport.

01:40:31.000 That's what football is.

01:40:35.000 What are you doing here?

01:40:36.000 You're telling them to keep their job?

01:40:38.000 They have to put their hand over their heart and stand in a certain position? 0.98

01:40:42.000 That seems very fucking bizarre. 0.76

01:40:44.000 Well, Fox said that they're going to stop televising the National Anthem. 0.98

01:40:48.000 And it was pointed out, well, you didn't used to televise the National Anthem.

01:40:52.000 You didn't televise it until two weeks ago when it became controversial.

01:40:56.000 Before that, we'd be listening to those three guys in the studio Right up to the kickoff.

01:41:01.000 And the only time they televised it is if it was like Whitney Houston was singing it.

01:41:05.000 That was a big deal.

01:41:08.000 Well, I'm a big fan of no anthem in sports because I like sports to be sports.

01:41:15.000 One of the things I love about the UFC, there's no national anthems.

01:41:19.000 They don't have to play the Brazilian national anthem when Jose Aldo's fighting or the American national anthem when Chris Weidman's fighting.

01:41:27.000 You don't have to do that.

01:41:27.000 You just go right to the fight, here's the main event of the evening, boom, entertainment, blah, blah, blah.

01:41:34.000 And if someone wants to make some sort of a political statement or a stand, they can do that in an interview.

01:41:41.000 And then that interview will be judged based on the content of whatever the conversation is.

01:41:46.000 And that's how it should be.

01:41:47.000 This weird sort of way where someone taking a knee is supposed to protest Cops shooting people, but it doesn't say that while you're taking the knee.

01:41:56.000 You're taking the knee during the anthem.

01:41:57.000 The anthem is supposed to be all of us.

01:42:00.000 It's supposed to be America. 0.96

01:42:01.000 The whole group as a team, like the United States of America, not the Seahawks versus the Dolphins.

01:42:07.000 Put all that aside for a second.

01:42:09.000 We're all in this together.

01:42:10.000 That's the idea.

01:42:11.000 I understand why he did it, and I understand why he did it then, because it was the way to call attention to it.

01:42:18.000 But now that's lost.

01:42:19.000 But you know what the National Anthem has been historically?

01:42:22.000 Get to your seat.

01:42:23.000 The game's about to start.

01:42:25.000 That's all it was.

01:42:27.000 What's the last two words of the National Anthem?

01:42:31.000 Play ball!

01:42:32.000 That's literally what we thought was part of the song, because that's what you heard right at the end.

01:42:37.000 The umpire yelled, play ball, and the game started. 0.51

01:42:40.000 So I understood what Kaepernick did, but now it's done.

01:42:43.000 And now it's been compromised and changed, and the arguments changed.

01:42:49.000 And he's still not playing. 0.99

01:42:54.000 People are using the land of the free to shake their dick as they're trying to get it out. 0.99

01:42:59.000 Hurry up! 1.00

01:43:00.000 In the land of the free!

01:43:04.000 What is this?

01:43:05.000 It just came out now this afternoon, maybe even within the hour, that 1,200 players' personal data has been exposed in a leak by hackers in the NFL, including Colin Kaepernick's data.

01:43:15.000 What kind of data?

01:43:16.000 Personal information off of a server from the NFLPA, the Players Association of the NFL. Now, was that a hack there, or did they just have Experian or Equifax or whoever the hell it was?

01:43:28.000 So they had a Bitcoin ransom they were trying to say.

01:43:30.000 They would...

01:43:33.000 Get rid of this leak, but it is now coming out.

01:43:37.000 Only $428?

01:43:38.000 That's all they asked at the time.

01:43:40.000 How crazy is that, though?

01:43:41.000 Give me $428.

01:43:43.000 I know someone that happened to that Bitcoin hack.

01:43:46.000 Really?

01:43:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:43:47.000 I was just talking to her this weekend.

01:43:48.000 She has an accounting company, and apparently these hackers...

01:43:53.000 Take control of your database, and they have an encryption key, and you have to pay them in Bitcoin to get the encryption key to get back your own data.

01:44:04.000 Yeah, there's a giant group of people from other countries that engage in this, and they target large businesses and people that will be willing to pay.

01:44:14.000 Yeah, it's like an extortion thing.

01:44:16.000 Yeah, very weird.

01:44:17.000 See, now you have something to lose.

01:44:20.000 Me, if you want to hold my 428 followers hostage, go ahead.

01:44:27.000 I'll just start another website.

01:44:29.000 Do you think Colin Kaepernick gets confronted by the suits?

01:44:33.000 Do you think they sit him down and go, hey man, you gotta stop doing this. 0.96

01:44:36.000 This is fucking up everybody. 0.93

01:44:37.000 I think they did last year. 0.97

01:44:39.000 I think they did last year.

01:44:41.000 Where do you think this goes?

01:44:42.000 My question is, the more Trump tweets about this, ratings down, NFL bad, sad, he tweets that, and all the Trumpettes go along with it, and then they start boycotting people. 0.98

01:44:54.000 I see all these fucking tweets boycott the NFL and all this crazy thing. 0.98

01:44:59.000 You know where it goes? 0.99

01:45:00.000 It goes nowhere, because we have no attention span as a nation.

01:45:04.000 But it's going to have to stop or continue.

01:45:07.000 But again, this is the thing.

01:45:08.000 We just had this mass shooting.

01:45:11.000 Right.

01:45:11.000 So the attention now will be on the NRA and, you know, guns and so on.

01:45:17.000 You know what I mean?

01:45:18.000 And the NFL will be on the back burner.

01:45:20.000 Like, we have, in the past month, six weeks, Confederate statues, right?

01:45:28.000 Yeah.

01:45:28.000 Hurricanes.

01:45:30.000 Charlottesville.

01:45:31.000 Yeah.

01:45:31.000 The NFL. Yeah.

01:45:33.000 Now it's a mass shooting.

01:45:35.000 You know what I mean?

01:45:35.000 We have no, we have no attention span as a nation, so it will just go away.

01:45:40.000 And, and in another month, people will be watching football.

01:45:44.000 There'll be something else.

01:45:45.000 Yeah.

01:45:46.000 Yeah.

01:45:46.000 Cause there's always, there's always the latest big story.

01:45:50.000 And then that's the, you know, I haven't heard a thing about a Confederate statue in the last two weeks of them getting knocked down, of them getting put back up or whatever.

01:46:00.000 You know what I mean?

01:46:00.000 It's so, uh, Right, wrong, or indifferent, America has zero attention span.

01:46:08.000 Did you see what that fucking lady from CBS, that top executive, she was like a vice president at CBS? Some huge position. 1.00

01:46:17.000 She went on Facebook saying she didn't feel bad for the people that got shot in Vegas because they were Republicans.

01:46:23.000 They were likely Republicans.

01:46:26.000 She's talking about hundreds of people that got shot for going to a country music concert.

01:46:32.000 Like, the fact that she just made this blanket statement, she thought they were likely Republicans because they were at a country music concert?

01:46:40.000 You know, the thing about that, and this is the thing about freedom of speech that people forget.

01:46:45.000 You have freedom of speech, but there's consequences.

01:46:49.000 It's not freedom of speech without consequence. 1.00

01:46:51.000 So she can say that, and then if CBS fires her the next day, it's like, well, you shouldn't have said that shit. 0.99

01:46:58.000 You should have kept it to yourself. 0.99

01:47:01.000 Or you should have told your friends at the cocktail party, but the minute you made that public statement, we don't want to be associated with you.

01:47:08.000 But it's what we were talking about earlier, this team thing, that someone could be so ideologically isolated, they're so locked into this liberal bubble, that they think it's okay to say something like that, that it's okay for mass murder to exist,

01:47:25.000 and you don't feel bad for those mass...

01:47:27.000 Because you don't agree with them politically.

01:47:29.000 Share your team ideology.

01:47:31.000 I mean, what is her name, this lady? 1.00

01:47:36.000 It's fucking insane. 0.99

01:47:38.000 Yeah, to that level. 0.99

01:47:40.000 She was a very high-level executive.

01:47:42.000 This isn't like some crazy person.

01:47:42.000 I think the key word in your sentence is was.

01:47:44.000 Was, yeah. 1.00

01:47:45.000 Well, she's fucked now. 1.00

01:47:46.000 I mean, she's likely fucked forever. 1.00

01:47:48.000 I mean, this is not something that people forget. 0.99

01:47:50.000 What if she was a vice president of business affairs?

01:47:53.000 Oh, no.

01:47:54.000 Yeah, vice president of business affairs.

01:47:57.000 Yeah, Haley Geftman Gold wrote on her Facebook page, she was not sympathetic to victims of shootings because she claimed most country music fans are Republicans.

01:48:05.000 Wow!

01:48:06.000 She wrote that if they wouldn't do anything when children were murdered, I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing. 0.97

01:48:13.000 I am actually not even sympathetic because country music fans are often are Republican gun-toters. 1.00

01:48:20.000 Holy shit! 0.99

01:48:21.000 Well, you got the right to say it, and you got the right to lose your job. 1.00

01:48:24.000 Not even sympathetic is such a...

01:48:26.000 I mean, that could have been your sister, your mom, your daughter, someone's little kid.

01:48:34.000 I mean, that was a country music thing, right?

01:48:37.000 There was a lot of family-type folks that are there.

01:48:40.000 Country music events, I mean, I don't know what time of night that it all went down, but how old were the people there?

01:48:45.000 I don't know, like 10...

01:48:46.000 It's all a kid in one of those videos.

01:48:48.000 Yeah, I mean, sure, there's kids in country music things.

01:48:51.000 What I said was, had it been a rap concert, they would have blamed the artists.

01:48:57.000 Not if a white guy did it.

01:48:59.000 There would have been some serious calls of horrific racism. 0.99

01:49:02.000 It's just lucky that a white guy was shooting white people. 0.96

01:49:06.000 And again, you know, the reason I laugh, because that's how horrific we become as a society, that that's the statement. 0.97

01:49:15.000 You know what I mean? 0.89

01:49:16.000 Like, yeah, well, there's a white guy shooting white people, so we couldn't twist the race into it. 0.97

01:49:20.000 You know what I mean? 0.97

01:49:21.000 That's what I saw today about, someone was writing about white privilege.

01:49:24.000 Right.

01:49:25.000 We're so...

01:49:27.000 We're insane.

01:49:28.000 We're insane that that is the issue with something like this, you know?

01:49:34.000 But it's true.

01:49:35.000 I mean, what you're saying is true, but we've reached that level of insanity that that statement is true.

01:49:41.000 Imagine how freaked out people would be if that was a Muslim that did this. 0.99

01:49:46.000 Oh, it'd be war. 0.73

01:49:48.000 It would be war. 0.92

01:49:49.000 It would be war in the streets.

01:49:51.000 And, you know, actually, like, no Muslim would be safe in America. 1.00

01:49:56.000 I mean, are we going to have war on white dudes with guns? 0.98

01:50:00.000 No. 0.96

01:50:01.000 No.

01:50:02.000 I mean, there was white dudes with guns that got shot by a white dude with guns.

01:50:05.000 Everyone must feel so conflicted.

01:50:08.000 Because a lot of those people that were in the audience, like one of the country music guys actually came out and said that he completely switched his stance on gun rights.

01:50:16.000 He said, I've been a Second Amendment advocate my entire life.

01:50:20.000 He goes, I have concealed carry permits.

01:50:27.000 Yeah, guitarist, Las Vegas control, changed his mind in gun control.

01:50:31.000 What is his name?

01:50:33.000 Caleb Keter. 1.00

01:50:34.000 Caleb Keter sounds like the whitest fucking dude that's ever lived. 0.99

01:50:37.000 Caleb Keter, good old boy. 0.99

01:50:39.000 My name's Caleb, Caleb Keter.

01:50:41.000 I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Caleb Keter drives a truck.

01:50:44.000 Oh, for sure.

01:50:45.000 Does he have a baseball hat or a cowboy hat?

01:50:50.000 Level 95 wizard, guitarist for the, what is that?

01:50:55.000 John.

01:50:56.000 Josh Abbott Band? 1.00

01:50:57.000 See, I'll say something like that, like, who the fuck are they? 0.99

01:51:00.000 And then you go to their Twitter page, they have 24 million followers. 0.99

01:51:04.000 I'm like, what is happening?

01:51:05.000 I don't understand!

01:51:06.000 Country music is a whole different world, man.

01:51:08.000 A whole different world.

01:51:09.000 But, you know, again, we're getting back to where we started, which is great, and the insanity of the whole thing, but...

01:51:18.000 The problem, what you said about like a white guy doing this shooting, we were talking about everyone's in their team, right?

01:51:25.000 Everyone's in their group.

01:51:26.000 Yeah.

01:51:27.000 But this ruins the narrative.

01:51:28.000 Right. 1.00

01:51:28.000 Because if our narrative is the Muslims are terrorists, they, it's they, they are the terrorists and the black people are criminals and the Mexicans are, you know, rapists and dope dealers and everything, then, oh shit, one of ours did it to us? 1.00

01:51:43.000 A millionaire. 1.00

01:51:44.000 Yeah.

01:51:44.000 A white millionaire who's a real estate investor and a gambler.

01:51:49.000 Right.

01:51:50.000 This ruins your narrative.

01:51:52.000 Now you have to figure out how to change your story to make him other because he has to somehow become other. 0.98

01:52:00.000 There are people that are taking advantage of it in a fucked up way. 0.98

01:52:02.000 I saw this article on white privilege. 0.99

01:52:05.000 They're saying that the shooter had white privilege and using his white privilege. 0.99

01:52:09.000 That's how he walked through the casino with all these guns and all this equipment and shit like that. 0.98

01:52:14.000 I'm like, what? 1.00

01:52:15.000 He's a fucking psychopath. 1.00

01:52:16.000 No, I believe white privilege exists in certain circumstances, not in that one. 1.00

01:52:21.000 Yeah, that's a ridiculous argument. 0.97

01:52:23.000 What are you looking at, Jamie? 1.00

01:52:25.000 Oh, white privilege of the lone wolf shooter. 1.00

01:52:27.000 Oh, that fucking guy. 1.00

01:52:28.000 Of course. 1.00

01:52:29.000 That fucking fake black guy. 1.00

01:52:32.000 Of course it's him who writes that. 1.00

01:52:33.000 That guy is such a race pimp.

01:52:35.000 Oh, you're talking about the article about the guy being a lone wolf? 0.87

01:52:37.000 Yeah.

01:52:38.000 Yeah, I read that.

01:52:40.000 This whole thing that we're dealing with has so many different facets to it.

01:52:45.000 The mass shooter thing.

01:52:46.000 But a big part of it is the fact that it becomes the narrative for the entire country.

01:52:50.000 It becomes a huge part of what everybody's talking about.

01:52:54.000 These people that have, for whatever reason, they have this need to be...

01:52:59.000 A guy who gets paid attention to.

01:53:02.000 And this gets back to your point about mental health.

01:53:06.000 Yeah.

01:53:07.000 And our mental health is a nation that the mass shooter is a thing.

01:53:11.000 Yeah.

01:53:12.000 I think it was Trevor Noah was talking about on The Daily Show where We're really not surprised anymore.

01:53:19.000 He said he's been in the United States for two years, living in New York for two years, and how many mass shootings this is.

01:53:27.000 But Americans are like, yeah, another one. 1.00

01:53:31.000 And we...

01:53:33.000 We got to develop some sense of outrage before we do something about this.

01:53:37.000 Or, like the Onion article was talking about, we just like, well, we'll just hope that it doesn't happen again.

01:53:43.000 We won't do anything differently and hope it never happens again.

01:53:46.000 We're not going to do anything different, but we're just going to hope, you know?

01:53:49.000 And that line, the thoughts and prayers line, stop it.

01:53:54.000 Stop it.

01:53:55.000 Stop doing any good.

01:53:56.000 Our thoughts and prayers go out to know.

01:53:59.000 People feel like they need to say something, right?

01:54:01.000 Yeah.

01:54:02.000 And people do, but if you're in the government, if you're a policymaker, then you do more than just say that.

01:54:09.000 You've got to put your balls on the line and step up and do something.

01:54:14.000 Challenge the gun lobby about registration of weapons. 0.71

01:54:18.000 It was easier for them to challenge the hotel lobby about security in hotels than to challenge the gun lobby about registration of weapons.

01:54:27.000 But here's the thing about the registration of weapons.

01:54:29.000 This guy had these weapons illegally.

01:54:31.000 I mean, these are still, like, at the end of the day, you're talking about a criminal possessing criminal weapons.

01:54:36.000 Same thing as Sandy Hook.

01:54:37.000 He got access to those illegally.

01:54:39.000 Sandy Hook, he got them from his mom, who got them legally.

01:54:41.000 Right.

01:54:42.000 But he got them illegally.

01:54:43.000 Yeah.

01:54:43.000 But you can still make it, like you said, if you made it more difficult, if you had to take a class, if you had to register, there'd be a percentage that didn't have them.

01:54:55.000 Yeah, I mean, your shit should be locked up. 0.99

01:54:57.000 I mean, it's just... 1.00

01:54:58.000 I just don't know...

01:55:00.000 But what's interesting, too, is that Trump used to be a Democrat.

01:55:03.000 He was a Democrat forever.

01:55:05.000 Trump's a publicity guy.

01:55:07.000 You know what I mean?

01:55:08.000 And he's...

01:55:09.000 You know, this is...

01:55:10.000 Goes back to Sarah Palin, right?

01:55:12.000 Like, I never liked Sarah Palin or agreed with Sarah Palin, but I respected Sarah Palin's ability to manipulate the media. 1.00

01:55:20.000 Sarah Palin knew how to keep her name in the news. 0.96

01:55:23.000 You know, Kim Kardashian's another one.

01:55:25.000 Like, you may not like Kim Kardashian, but guess what?

01:55:28.000 You know who she is.

01:55:29.000 Right.

01:55:30.000 You know who she is.

01:55:31.000 We all know who she is.

01:55:32.000 I read somewhere that she is the most famous woman on Earth, and I can believe that.

01:55:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:55:38.000 I had a whole bit about it.

01:55:39.000 I had a whole bit about aliens come down here and try to figure out why that's the most famous woman on Earth. 1.00

01:55:43.000 Right.

01:55:44.000 And we explained to her by using O.J. Simpson.

01:55:46.000 Yeah.

01:55:47.000 The whole idea is that O.J. Simpson, you know, got out of, you know, like, Robert Kardashian was O.J. Simpson's, one of his attorneys.

01:55:54.000 Yeah, I remember that.

01:55:55.000 They all died of cancer.

01:55:56.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

01:55:56.000 You know, that's what's fucked up. 1.00

01:55:58.000 F. Lee Bailey's the only guy that's alive. 0.97

01:56:00.000 And he's broke and living in Maine somewhere.

01:56:03.000 Everybody that got O.J. off was just ostracized.

01:56:06.000 And Johnny Cochran died of cancer.

01:56:08.000 Kardashian died of cancer. 1.00

01:56:09.000 They all just the fucking hate that came their way. 1.00

01:56:13.000 A lot of brothers in jail because Johnny Cochran died. 1.00

01:56:17.000 We missed Johnny, Joe.

01:56:18.000 I ain't gonna lie to you, Joe.

01:56:19.000 We missed Johnny. 1.00

01:56:20.000 He fucked up. 1.00

01:56:21.000 He fucked up with the OJ case. 1.00

01:56:22.000 Johnny was good, man. 0.99

01:56:23.000 If the glove does not fit, you must have quit.

01:56:26.000 And everybody was like, what? 0.99

01:56:27.000 There's a lot of ballplayers doing time saying, damn, Johnny. 0.99

01:56:31.000 So you watched that whole Cuba Gooding Jr. thing. 0.99

01:56:34.000 I've only watched one episode.

01:56:35.000 I watched one episode last night, but it brought it all back.

01:56:38.000 Underrated actor.

01:56:40.000 Oh, yeah.

01:56:40.000 He won an Oscar.

01:56:41.000 Yeah, I know.

01:56:42.000 But then sort of dropped off.

01:56:44.000 And that movie he did with De Niro about being the first black diver was a Man of Honor.

01:56:51.000 It was a phenomenal movie.

01:56:52.000 Did you ever see that movie?

01:56:53.000 No, I never even heard of it.

01:56:54.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's called Man of Honor or something.

01:56:58.000 Cuba Gooding Jr. plays the first black deep sea diver.

01:57:02.000 And it's a true story.

01:57:04.000 Hmm.

01:57:04.000 Yeah.

01:57:06.000 Men of Honor 2000. Check that out.

01:57:08.000 He sort of dropped off in a weird way.

01:57:11.000 I wonder what happened with him.

01:57:12.000 I don't know.

01:57:13.000 It's one of those things.

01:57:14.000 When he gets a chance to play a role, he's phenomenal in it. 0.99

01:57:17.000 But so many times he gets these clown movies, bullshit roles, and stuff like that. 0.95

01:57:22.000 I don't know how Hollywood works on that level, so I don't know what... 0.98

01:57:26.000 What it is, but...

01:57:27.000 The thing is, some poor choices.

01:57:29.000 Poor choices after... 0.99

01:57:30.000 What was the fucking Agent movie? 1.00

01:57:32.000 Show Me the Money. 1.00

01:57:33.000 What the fuck was that? 1.00

01:57:34.000 Jerry Maguire. 1.00

01:57:35.000 After that movie, there was a big drop-off.

01:57:37.000 Yeah.

01:57:37.000 It happens.

01:57:38.000 You know, the same thing happened with Jamie Foxx.

01:57:41.000 Yeah, but Jamie Foxx is still in the mix.

01:57:44.000 He still does everything.

01:57:45.000 I mean, he was in Django.

01:57:48.000 He was great in Django and that Baby Driver.

01:57:51.000 I didn't see that one.

01:57:52.000 I heard it was amazing.

01:57:53.000 Yeah, it's a great movie.

01:57:54.000 Yeah, he's good in that.

01:57:55.000 Jamie Foxx is just one of those weird dudes.

01:57:56.000 It seems like he could do anything.

01:57:58.000 Super talent.

01:57:59.000 Yeah, and super personable, too.

01:58:01.000 That's the other thing about him.

01:58:03.000 I've been hanging out with him.

01:58:03.000 He's such a normal guy.

01:58:05.000 Met him last year.

01:58:06.000 Couldn't have been nicer.

01:58:07.000 He was very cool.

01:58:08.000 Yeah, he did the podcast a couple months ago.

01:58:11.000 It's normal as it comes.

01:58:12.000 There's a recent clip of him describing the potential Tyson movie that they might be making and the opening of it that they might have worked out. 0.97

01:58:19.000 It's fucking odd.

01:58:21.000 It's like a three-minute clip of him just describing it, doing a little Tyson impression in there. 0.98

01:58:24.000 Oh, well, he can do amazing impressions.

01:58:27.000 He would be great as Tyson.

01:58:29.000 You'd just have to do a lot of roids.

01:58:31.000 Yeah, he's going to have to get real thick.

01:58:33.000 Because they are completely different body types.

01:58:36.000 Yeah, he would have to...

01:58:38.000 And he would have to actually learn how to box.

01:58:40.000 I don't know if he does.

01:58:41.000 But you can't have a guy like...

01:58:45.000 He might have trained some when he did Ali.

01:58:47.000 He was, what, Ali's corner man when Will Smith played Ali?

01:58:51.000 Wasn't he Bondini Brown?

01:58:53.000 Yeah, he was.

01:58:55.000 Yeah.

01:58:56.000 Well, Will Smith pulled it off.

01:58:58.000 He looked like a boxer.

01:58:59.000 He looked like he had been training.

01:59:00.000 But there's a few guys that, you know...

01:59:03.000 Yeah, there he is.

01:59:04.000 Ha ha ha!

01:59:06.000 Ha ha! 0.86

01:59:06.000 Yeah, there's a few guys that just don't pull it off. 0.86

01:59:10.000 When you're playing a fighter, like, even Russell Crowe, when he played Jim Braddock, is like, mmm.

01:59:18.000 Can you imagine if boxing really was like movie fights, where every punch connects?

01:59:25.000 Well, some fights are.

01:59:26.000 Go watch Arturo Gotti versus Mickey Ward. 0.99

01:59:29.000 Those fucking fights literally were movie fights. 0.99

01:59:32.000 That's what everybody was so jazzed up about. 0.99

01:59:34.000 Some of the most, I mean, blood and guts fights for sure, but preposterous fights. 0.96

01:59:40.000 They stood right in front of each other and beat the shit out of each other. 0.95

01:59:43.000 That was Hagler-Hearns. 0.94

01:59:45.000 That was the only fight I saw that that was a movie fight.

01:59:48.000 Like, yeah, we're just going to stand here and just punch each other until it's over.

01:59:52.000 Well, Hagler just decided that that fight, I mean, he fought very strategically in most fights. 0.99

01:59:59.000 You know, when he fought Mugabe, Mugabe was a murderous puncher, and he took Mugabe into deep water and then fucked him up and stomped him. 0.95

02:00:06.000 But not Hearns. 1.00

02:00:07.000 He said, I'm going to jump right in your face, motherfucker. 1.00

02:00:09.000 Like, they didn't like each other. 1.00

02:00:10.000 No, they didn't.

02:00:11.000 And didn't Hearns break his hand?

02:00:13.000 Like, that's why he couldn't keep punching.

02:00:15.000 He broke his hand on Hagler's head.

02:00:17.000 Yeah.

02:00:17.000 And he hurt Hagler.

02:00:18.000 Yeah.

02:00:18.000 He stunned Hagler in the first round, but Hagler had a preposterous chin.

02:00:23.000 Yeah.

02:00:23.000 Preposterous.

02:00:24.000 His only knockdown in his entire career was a bullshit knockdown. 1.00

02:00:27.000 I forget who it was that knocked him down. 0.99

02:00:31.000 But, uh, some Argentinian dude. 1.00

02:00:34.000 But it was a bullshit knockdown. 1.00

02:00:35.000 It was a fake knockdown. 1.00

02:00:36.000 It was like a slip.

02:00:37.000 And then he moved to Italy and started making movies.

02:00:39.000 Just banging Italian jokes. 1.00

02:00:41.000 If you go to Italy, man, you realize, you're like, why am I trying so hard?

02:00:44.000 Yeah, there ain't nothing bad.

02:00:46.000 Yeah, Roldan.

02:00:47.000 Yeah.

02:00:48.000 The night Marvin Hagel was not knocked down. 0.99

02:00:51.000 That's a fucking stain on his record, man. 0.99

02:00:53.000 They should go back and remove that. 1.00

02:00:55.000 It was not a knockdown.

02:00:57.000 You can see, are they going to play it?

02:00:58.000 Play it.

02:00:59.000 Let's watch.

02:01:00.000 Oh.

02:01:01.000 See if you can find the knockdown. 1.00

02:01:03.000 It's a bullshit fucking knockdown. 1.00

02:01:05.000 They don't have a clip of Roldan knocking down Marvin Hagler? 1.00

02:01:11.000 Marvin Hanger still beat his ass. 1.00

02:01:13.000 He had ridiculous muscles on the side of his head that was like he was born with headgear. 1.00

02:01:23.000 His temples, they said the muscles that surrounded his temples were three times larger than a normal person's. 0.96

02:01:30.000 Yeah, well that happens, right?

02:01:31.000 Certain athletes.

02:01:32.000 Oh, for sure, man. 1.00

02:01:33.000 Some guys have bigger dicks. 1.00

02:01:34.000 Some guys are boring. 1.00

02:01:36.000 Yeah, yeah, just show it real quick.

02:01:39.000 Let's see here. 0.96

02:01:41.000 Bullshit knockdown. 0.99

02:01:42.000 I mean, he just like pushed down the back of his head. 1.00

02:01:47.000 Are they gonna show it?

02:01:48.000 No.

02:01:48.000 Oh, they're gonna show it in between rounds.

02:01:51.000 Yeah, just let it go for a second here.

02:01:53.000 What'd you do?

02:01:53.000 I was trying to go back.

02:01:54.000 I just want to see that replay, sorry.

02:01:56.000 Yeah, just in between rounds, I'll show it on the replay.

02:02:00.000 So he went back to his corner.

02:02:02.000 48 KOs in his 62 fights. 0.99

02:02:05.000 And he's one of the few guys that when he lost to Sugar Ray Leonard, he just went, fuck this. 0.99

02:02:12.000 And I don't think he lost that fight. 0.99

02:02:14.000 I've watched that fight a few times.

02:02:16.000 I thought it was a decision for Hagler.

02:02:18.000 It should have been a decision for Hagler.

02:02:19.000 Look at this.

02:02:20.000 See?

02:02:20.000 He's totally slipped.

02:02:21.000 Yeah, he slipped.

02:02:22.000 Total slip.

02:02:23.000 He mostly missed the punch.

02:02:26.000 Yeah, he grazed the top of his head.

02:02:26.000 Grazed the punch.

02:02:27.000 And Hagler slipped.

02:02:28.000 See?

02:02:28.000 He just kind of pushed him down with his forearm and Hagler bounced right up.

02:02:32.000 That is not a knockdown, you motherfuckers. 1.00

02:02:35.000 But he took some bombs from Mugabe. 1.00

02:02:37.000 Mugabe was murdering people at the time.

02:02:40.000 We were talking about football players.

02:02:42.000 Boxers is another one where they don't know when to let it go.

02:02:46.000 You can only take so many punches to the head.

02:02:50.000 MMA fighters as well.

02:02:51.000 Chuck Liddell's talking about making a comeback now.

02:02:55.000 You get hooked on the fame, but at some point, and it's not even when they get old.

02:03:00.000 It's when they get to 50. Not even that.

02:03:04.000 I mean, Liddell's talking about making a comeback now at 48, and I think he's been out of the fight game for at least five or six years.

02:03:12.000 The UFC gave him a no-show job for a while, and they said, look, you don't have to work.

02:03:20.000 You just come in, do some events every now and then, you get a chunk of money every month.

02:03:24.000 And so he was living off that and doing really well with that.

02:03:27.000 But then the UFC sold.

02:03:29.000 And when the UFC sold, they killed those jobs. 0.99

02:03:32.000 This whole fucking UFC sold thing is so crazy because they bought it for four billion dollars. 0.99

02:03:38.000 B-billion. 0.99

02:03:40.000 To make the monthly nut, they had to cut a hundred jobs from the UFC. A hundred people got fired.

02:03:48.000 And now they gotta figure out some way to...

02:03:50.000 To build it.

02:03:51.000 Well, it's not just that.

02:03:52.000 It's like, you gotta make payments every month.

02:03:55.000 So they sold some more of it off.

02:03:57.000 They sold some more of the assets off to some other corporations or some other people. 1.00

02:04:01.000 And I'm glad I don't have to deal with that shit, dude. 0.99

02:04:03.000 I just show up and talk. 1.00

02:04:05.000 Yeah.

02:04:06.000 I don't envy the people that have to deal with the bean counters and the money.

02:04:10.000 The business side, yeah.

02:04:11.000 I mean, what is worth $4 billion?

02:04:14.000 Star Wars.

02:04:16.000 Yeah, somewhere you could just sell it in a million different ways.

02:04:20.000 And it was like worth it.

02:04:23.000 Yeah.

02:04:24.000 Like I bought Star Wars for four billion dollars and I'm making money.

02:04:27.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

02:04:28.000 Yeah, Disney bought that.

02:04:30.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:04:30.000 But then they put Star Wars rides and license all this shit. 0.99

02:04:34.000 It's Disney. 0.97

02:04:35.000 You know, you can get Jar Jar Binks to come to your birthday party. 0.98

02:04:39.000 I bet you can.

02:04:40.000 There's a whole team of them, probably.

02:04:42.000 Have you done that ride at Disneyland?

02:04:44.000 When's the last time you've been at Disneyland?

02:04:45.000 You sit down that ride, you go through it.

02:04:47.000 It's like a virtual reality Star Trek ride.

02:04:48.000 I did it earlier this year.

02:04:49.000 Star Wars ride?

02:04:50.000 Yeah.

02:04:50.000 That ride is awesome.

02:04:51.000 Yeah.

02:04:51.000 I mean, again, when Disney does something, they're going to do it, right?

02:04:55.000 The movies, there's not going to be any more of those Jar Jar Binks movies or any of that.

02:05:01.000 Disney's like, yeah, we're going to handle this.

02:05:03.000 Yeah, that guy didn't work out.

02:05:04.000 He's in the Star Tours movie, though.

02:05:07.000 Yeah.

02:05:08.000 That thing, the little thing, sometimes you run into him underwater, he's drowning, and everybody gets excited.

02:05:13.000 But the quality of the movies went back up.

02:05:16.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

02:05:18.000 They don't play games.

02:05:19.000 A lot of money invested.

02:05:20.000 They're doing a Star Wars park at Disneyland.

02:05:24.000 Yeah. 0.94

02:05:24.000 Some gigantic fucking huge thing. 0.94

02:05:27.000 It was... 0.99

02:05:27.000 What was it? 0.99

02:05:28.000 It used to be called Tomorrowland or something like that.

02:05:30.000 It was something else and they're converting it and making the whole thing into Star Wars.

02:05:34.000 Yeah.

02:05:35.000 They said it's going to be open in like two years.

02:05:36.000 It's going to be insane.

02:05:38.000 I don't know how old you are, but do you remember when the first movie came?

02:05:41.000 So yeah, you remember when the first movie came out? 0.99

02:05:43.000 Fuck yeah. 0.99

02:05:44.000 Like, think about that when... 1.00

02:05:46.000 Think about George Lucas.

02:05:48.000 Like, I'm going to make a movie that's going to change culture.

02:05:51.000 It is literally going to bring, like, change language.

02:05:56.000 Like, we're going to have, you know, things we talk about, right?

02:05:59.000 Like Jedi mind tricks and the Force.

02:06:02.000 And it's got to be mind-boggling to sit back and say, yeah, I created this whole thing.

02:06:08.000 Got to be mind-boggling, but do you think he set out to do that?

02:06:11.000 I mean, he set out to just make a killer movie.

02:06:13.000 I don't think he did, no.

02:06:13.000 He just set out to make a great movie.

02:06:15.000 Just hit all the buttons for people.

02:06:17.000 Everything.

02:06:17.000 For generations.

02:06:19.000 Yeah.

02:06:19.000 You know, generations to be like, you know.

02:06:23.000 He had all the things. 0.99

02:06:24.000 He had the rebel with the fucking giant gorilla that followed him around. 0.99

02:06:28.000 Yep. 1.00

02:06:28.000 The wise Yoda. 1.00

02:06:30.000 Old wise Yoda.

02:06:31.000 He had the wise Yoda.

02:06:32.000 He had the old man who was the master who was showing him how to do it.

02:06:36.000 The master dies.

02:06:37.000 No.

02:06:37.000 One of the greatest villains of all time.

02:06:39.000 Oh, the best. 1.00

02:06:40.000 The guy could kill people with his mind. 1.00

02:06:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:06:43.000 And he fucking... 0.99

02:06:44.000 You didn't even see his eyes. 0.99

02:06:46.000 You couldn't see anything.

02:06:47.000 No emotions.

02:06:48.000 He just...

02:06:48.000 Yeah, that's all he did.

02:06:49.000 He just...

02:06:50.000 He would breathe.

02:06:51.000 He would breathe. 1.00

02:06:53.000 That was the shit. 1.00

02:06:54.000 And imagine being a stormtrooper. 1.00

02:06:55.000 Just an average stormtrooper.

02:06:57.000 And you hear this coming down the hall.

02:06:59.000 Oh. 1.00

02:07:00.000 You're like, oh shit, I might die. 1.00

02:07:02.000 I might die. 0.99

02:07:03.000 Like, I don't know if I did my job right.

02:07:05.000 Or maybe he just needs to make an example.

02:07:08.000 You ever tried watching it today, though?

02:07:10.000 It's so corny.

02:07:11.000 It's not.

02:07:12.000 But it's only still great because it brings back the memory of how great it was.

02:07:18.000 But no, it's not the movie it was then.

02:07:20.000 But back then, we'd never seen anything like that.

02:07:23.000 Jump into hyperspace and all that.

02:07:25.000 Oh, yeah.

02:07:26.000 It's amazing.

02:07:27.000 The special effects were terrible.

02:07:28.000 Yeah.

02:07:29.000 Did you ever see Darth Vader with the actor's voice?

02:07:33.000 The actual actor?

02:07:34.000 Yeah.

02:07:35.000 No.

02:07:35.000 Yeah, you can see it on YouTube.

02:07:37.000 Exactly.

02:07:38.000 He's not exact.

02:07:40.000 Because, you know, the actor had to do the lines for the other actors.

02:07:43.000 Right.

02:07:44.000 That's funny.

02:07:45.000 Not quite the impact of James Earl Jones.

02:07:47.000 James Earl Jones.

02:07:48.000 What a voice that guy has.

02:07:50.000 Ving Rhames is the modern version of that.

02:07:53.000 Ving Rhames does a lot of voiceover stuff for the UFC and...

02:07:57.000 Who are you telling?

02:07:58.000 You're talking to a guy with a voice who can't get a job.

02:08:00.000 Because of Ving Rhames?

02:08:01.000 Because Ving Rhames and those guys do it.

02:08:03.000 I lost one to Danny Glover.

02:08:07.000 And I'm like, if I ever meet him, I'm like, man, you got lethal weapon money.

02:08:10.000 You didn't need this.

02:08:11.000 This is a Guinness beer commercial.

02:08:13.000 I needed that.

02:08:14.000 It's competition out there, bro.

02:08:15.000 Nobody's going to lay down for you.

02:08:17.000 Nobody.

02:08:17.000 It's not how it works, especially not in the voiceover game.

02:08:19.000 I got to start punching people in the throat.

02:08:23.000 The voiceover game is a weird game, right? 0.98

02:08:25.000 There's some dudes, like, you know who's an interesting one?

02:08:28.000 Is the guy from Ray Donovan. 0.99

02:08:31.000 What the fuck's his name? 0.99

02:08:32.000 Liev Schreiber. 1.00

02:08:33.000 Yeah.

02:08:34.000 Liev?

02:08:34.000 How do you say it?

02:08:35.000 Liev?

02:08:36.000 Liev Schreiber.

02:08:37.000 But he's really good at it.

02:08:39.000 He does a lot of the UFC ones for Fox.

02:08:41.000 And I can never remember his name, but...

02:08:45.000 Donald Sutherland.

02:08:46.000 Oh, yeah.

02:08:47.000 Tons.

02:08:48.000 He's the voice of Delta.

02:08:50.000 Is he dead now?

02:08:51.000 He's the voice of Juice.

02:08:52.000 Is he dead now, Donald Sutherland?

02:08:53.000 No.

02:08:55.000 Is it Donald Sutherland?

02:08:57.000 Am I saying it right?

02:08:57.000 Is that the right actor?

02:08:58.000 The guy with the white hair?

02:09:00.000 Donald Sutherland is the guy who was in Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

02:09:04.000 Still alive?

02:09:05.000 Yeah, 82. Yeah, I think it's the same guy.

02:09:07.000 He just did the Hunger Games movies.

02:09:09.000 He was like the president in the Hunger Games.

02:09:12.000 That's the guy, right?

02:09:13.000 He's in a movie with Helen Mirren?

02:09:15.000 Yeah.

02:09:15.000 Yeah, that guy, he does a ton.

02:09:17.000 Whenever I think of him, I think of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. 0.87

02:09:20.000 At the end, when he became one of the guys.

02:09:24.000 And you know who's getting paid?

02:09:26.000 The guy who does the Allstate.

02:09:29.000 There's another one that I could have done.

02:09:31.000 Yeah, that guy.

02:09:32.000 Dennis Haysworth.

02:09:33.000 I could have done that for a lot less money.

02:09:35.000 You're the only one who knows his name.

02:09:37.000 A friend of mine used to work with him on a series.

02:09:39.000 That's why I know his name.

02:09:41.000 You can go to any mall in America.

02:09:43.000 Who's the Allstate guy?

02:09:44.000 He was also in Major League.

02:09:46.000 Yeah, Pedro Serrano.

02:09:47.000 That's how I know him.

02:09:48.000 Yeah, he was Serrano in Major League.

02:09:50.000 I don't remember that at all.

02:09:52.000 I barely remember Major League.

02:09:54.000 Major League was great.

02:09:55.000 Oh yeah, that's him.

02:09:56.000 Major League.

02:09:57.000 I love that movie. 1.00

02:09:58.000 That was a fun fucking movie. 0.99

02:10:00.000 That's one of those movies that if you're flicking channels and it's on, I'm watching it. 0.99

02:10:04.000 Yeah.

02:10:06.000 Yeah, Charlie Sheen back for the crack.

02:10:08.000 Yep.

02:10:09.000 Wesley Snipes when he was paying taxes.

02:10:11.000 Yeah.

02:10:13.000 We replaced him in the second one and tried to act like it wasn't.

02:10:15.000 Omar Epps played the same character in the second movie.

02:10:17.000 Really?

02:10:18.000 They replaced Wesley?

02:10:20.000 Yeah.

02:10:20.000 Wow.

02:10:21.000 Wesley had a bunch of issues.

02:10:22.000 There was a great Patton Oswalt bit he does about being in Blade 2 and about how they replaced Wesley Snipes halfway in the movie. 0.92

02:10:32.000 Wesley Snipes, I don't know, allegedly was fucking around with coke or something. 0.94

02:10:38.000 Really? 0.99

02:10:38.000 And just was completely off his rocker. 0.99

02:10:41.000 It was a weird time for him.

02:10:43.000 I got a friend who grew up with him.

02:10:45.000 I mean, literally, Wesley was sleeping on his couch when he got his first American Express commercial, his first acting job.

02:10:55.000 And then he got, I forgot what movie, he did some movie, I think it was a fight movie or something like that, and he kind of disappeared.

02:11:03.000 And my buddy's wife, she's always like, you better never Wesley snipe us.

02:11:08.000 You better not disappear.

02:11:10.000 This is his first movie?

02:11:11.000 Commercial for Western Union.

02:11:13.000 Yeah, it was.

02:11:14.000 Look at that.

02:11:16.000 Commercials.

02:11:17.000 Commercial money was always a big thing, right?

02:11:19.000 Back then, man.

02:11:21.000 If you got a national commercial back then, you got paid.

02:11:24.000 Yeah.

02:11:24.000 Back that up here.

02:11:25.000 The scene where the pipe was going off. 0.99

02:11:31.000 Goddamn. 0.99

02:11:33.000 Hilarious. 0.99

02:11:34.000 Look at the computer!

02:11:36.000 God, look at the computer back then!

02:11:39.000 It's a Western Union.

02:11:41.000 While they're punching numbers into a terminal.

02:11:45.000 Gotta get that bail money somehow.

02:11:47.000 That's our lifetime.

02:11:49.000 In our lifetime, things have changed so radically.

02:11:51.000 Just stop and think about 30 years before that, it wasn't much different.

02:11:56.000 It was a little different, but not like it is now.

02:11:59.000 Think of our parents' lifetimes.

02:12:00.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:12:02.000 To go from radio, like to have lived from radio to the internet.

02:12:06.000 Yeah.

02:12:07.000 Not that my mom will mess with the internet. 0.99

02:12:09.000 Your mom doesn't fuck with the internet? 1.00

02:12:10.000 Nah, we tried. 1.00

02:12:12.000 Her church started doing the bulletins online, so we gave her a smartphone.

02:12:16.000 Like a few years ago, I gave her one of those...

02:12:20.000 What do they call it?

02:12:20.000 The cricket phone?

02:12:21.000 Oh yeah, where it has like four numbers on it?

02:12:23.000 Yeah, and that's all you do.

02:12:25.000 And well, they made a smartphone version.

02:12:27.000 It literally has one button that says email, a button that says text, a button that says pictures, and a button that says call.

02:12:33.000 And it's like, Mom, I can't, like, this is the simplest we could do.

02:12:37.000 She wouldn't do it?

02:12:37.000 She won't mess with it.

02:12:39.000 Wow.

02:12:40.000 Man, for a long time, you know, my mom was still like, talk fast, it's long distance.

02:12:44.000 Yeah.

02:12:48.000 You know, it was like, don't worry, mom.

02:12:49.000 I got this.

02:12:50.000 I got long distance money.

02:12:51.000 I ain't rich, but I got long distance money.

02:12:55.000 That's right. 0.98

02:12:56.000 Remember when roaming, when you would drive your car an hour outside of where your coverage area was and you'd be fucked? 0.81

02:13:03.000 If you got AT&T, you still got roaming. 0.98

02:13:06.000 Man, AT&T, they used to just rape me when I traveled. 0.97

02:13:10.000 It was ridiculous. 0.98

02:13:12.000 Really? 0.59

02:13:12.000 Oh, and forget, when you went to the festival in Montreal, it's like, listen, I'm going to need my pay plus some AT&T money. 0.59

02:13:19.000 Right.

02:13:19.000 Because I might make a call.

02:13:20.000 If you make one call.

02:13:22.000 Yeah, I know a lot of dudes who used their phone overseas and didn't know when they got a $1,000 bill when they got back home.

02:13:27.000 Like $1,000 for phone calls.

02:13:29.000 I know one guy, he used his data.

02:13:33.000 He kept using his phone.

02:13:35.000 He had a $3,000 bill when he came back from Montreal.

02:13:39.000 His data was on 24-7 for like eight days.

02:13:45.000 How could they charge you that much?

02:13:47.000 That is just rude.

02:13:48.000 They cut it in half or something like that, but it was still...

02:13:51.000 Yeah, unreal.

02:13:52.000 Oh, they give you a break.

02:13:54.000 Unreal.

02:13:54.000 So sweet of them.

02:13:55.000 Yeah.

02:13:57.000 But it's interesting that competition has sort of erased that whole roaming thing.

02:14:01.000 Because more people were jockeying for a share of the market.

02:14:05.000 Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, all these different people and players, Sprint.

02:14:09.000 And they just had to make some concessions for competition.

02:14:12.000 Well, the next big test is going to be a $1,000 iPhone.

02:14:17.000 Because if people pay it, then that's what phones are going to cost.

02:14:21.000 Well, isn't that new Samsung Galaxy Note 8, isn't that similarly priced?

02:14:25.000 They're both going to be up there.

02:14:26.000 Yeah, they're basically computers. 0.67

02:14:28.000 That Note 8 is pretty fucking sweet, man. 0.67

02:14:30.000 They're badass, but that's a big jump. 0.85

02:14:33.000 That's basically you're doubling the price of a cell phone.

02:14:36.000 Is it?

02:14:36.000 What are the new ones now?

02:14:37.000 I think new ones now are $500 to $600.

02:14:40.000 I don't think they are full price.

02:14:42.000 If you just buy it.

02:14:43.000 But that's the point.

02:14:44.000 But now you're not going to get that.

02:14:45.000 You know, because it's always been you get the discount if you sign up for two years or so that.

02:14:50.000 Well, apparently with this one, it's going to be just you got to just buy the phone.

02:14:54.000 They're just getting greedy.

02:14:55.000 Yeah.

02:14:56.000 So I think it's a test because if people don't go for it, then they'll be like, oh, well, we got to go back to the old model.

02:15:03.000 Would you be willing to pay more money?

02:15:06.000 For a phone, if you knew that the phone was made by people that got paid a living wage, I would.

02:15:14.000 Yeah, I'm all about that, man.

02:15:17.000 I'm fine with paying more for something to take care of the employees.

02:15:21.000 That's the best argument for Made in America.

02:15:24.000 That Made in America argument is like, some people look at it as patriotism or nationalism, and I can see that.

02:15:30.000 But there's also the argument, if it's made in America, then people have to get paid at least a minimum wage.

02:15:35.000 Well, you know who said it, and it's been lost, and I think it's one of his great quotes?

02:15:40.000 Henry Ford.

02:15:42.000 Henry Ford said, never forget, you have to pay them enough to buy the cars.

02:15:47.000 Ah, that's a smart quote.

02:15:50.000 And they forgot.

02:15:51.000 Henry Ford was a wizard.

02:15:53.000 Yeah.

02:15:53.000 Henry Ford also figured out that you can make fenders out of hemp, and they're far superior to metal.

02:16:00.000 There's an old video.

02:16:01.000 You ever see the old video of his first car?

02:16:04.000 No.

02:16:04.000 His first car that he made had fenders made out of hemp, and he's banging it with a hammer, and the hammer's just...

02:16:11.000 Hemp is... 0.97

02:16:13.000 Forget about whatever anybody feels about marijuana, fuckin' stoners, they're always trying to push it on us. 0.94

02:16:18.000 Just hemp itself as a textile, as a commodity. 0.94

02:16:23.000 Hemp, when they use hemp to make things out of, hemp is a very strange fiber.

02:16:29.000 Where if you had a piece of hemp, like the size of this water bottle, it was a large water bottle, right?

02:16:34.000 If you had a piece of hemp that was that thick, it would be hard like oak, but light like balsa wood. 0.99

02:16:41.000 It's fucking weird. 0.98

02:16:42.000 It's similar to bamboo? 0.99

02:16:44.000 It's similar to bamboo, but stronger.

02:16:46.000 Much stronger.

02:16:47.000 It's a very, very strange...

02:16:49.000 The impact is ten times stronger than steel.

02:16:53.000 Hemp plastic panels.

02:16:55.000 Now, see if you can find the video.

02:16:58.000 It's a crazy video.

02:16:59.000 Yeah, he just called it up there. 0.99

02:17:00.000 Because in the video, he's banging on this fucking fender with a hammer. 0.96

02:17:05.000 Well, it's a crazy video because he had an iPhone to make videos in 1910. Ah, God. 0.99

02:17:11.000 They probably had a dude on a truck filming this.

02:17:14.000 One of those things.

02:17:16.000 They probably had to crank it back then, right?

02:17:18.000 Yeah, he had to crank it, yeah.

02:17:18.000 Yeah, he probably did.

02:17:20.000 Like, that's his car.

02:17:22.000 Actually, pretty dope car if you had that today. 1.00

02:17:24.000 Drive around that bitch. 1.00

02:17:26.000 Let everybody know. 1.00

02:17:26.000 Look at this. 1.00

02:17:28.000 He's wailing on it with a fucking hammer, and it just bounces off. 1.00

02:17:32.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

02:17:33.000 And it's completely sustainable.

02:17:35.000 You can plant it in an area and regenerate it within a year.

02:17:41.000 Whereas if you have the same issue with trees, you try to regenerate an area with trees, it takes decades.

02:17:46.000 So is it...

02:17:47.000 Well, I guess it would be more similar to bamboo than fiberglass.

02:17:51.000 Yes.

02:17:51.000 More similar to bamboo than fiberglass, but superior to both of those things.

02:17:55.000 It's fucking amazing. 0.97

02:17:57.000 Fiberglass cracks and breaks. 0.98

02:17:58.000 Oh yeah, I know.

02:17:59.000 But it's light like fiberglass, but far stronger.

02:18:02.000 I had a Corvette that the fender just cracked and broke off.

02:18:06.000 Oh.

02:18:07.000 I have a Corvette.

02:18:09.000 I have an older one.

02:18:10.000 You got a magnificent one.

02:18:11.000 Yeah.

02:18:13.000 Who made a car recently out of hemp?

02:18:16.000 Lotus.

02:18:17.000 Lotus made a hemp car really recently.

02:18:20.000 And people were hoping that other manufacturers are going to start using this because it's actually safer.

02:18:26.000 It's stronger than fiberglass, safer than fiberglass, and it's similar in terms of its weight.

02:18:32.000 So what?

02:18:33.000 Yeah, so that stripe down the middle is exposed.

02:18:35.000 There's photos where you could see it more clearly, Jamie.

02:18:39.000 See if you're like...

02:18:41.000 Yeah, there it is.

02:18:43.000 So that is what the actual fiber looks like, where it's not painted and sealed.

02:18:49.000 Or it's just sealed, rather, but not colored.

02:18:52.000 So you can see the fiber.

02:18:53.000 It's incredible stuff, man.

02:18:55.000 And it doesn't fuck with the environment.

02:18:58.000 It's actually good.

02:18:59.000 It's a cleaner process.

02:19:01.000 So why is it not being used?

02:19:03.000 Because it's connected to marijuana.

02:19:05.000 That's the only reason.

02:19:05.000 It's just publicity.

02:19:06.000 Bad publicity.

02:19:08.000 Up until very recently, hemp was illegal to grow in the United States.

02:19:12.000 Now, I know this for a fact because my company Onnit, we had to buy all of our hemp from Canada.

02:19:17.000 When we sell hemp protein, which is one of the best versions of protein that you can get in plant-based form because it has a full amino acid profile, very easy to digest, and if you get high-quality hemp hearts like the stuff that we sell...

02:19:31.000 Real easy going down like it doesn't fuck with you or give you gas like some people have issues with like whey protein if they have any sort of lactose intolerance and some people just doesn't doesn't agree with them Hemp is very easy digest.

02:19:44.000 I mean I take a hemp protein shake and I'll go to the gym like an hour later and have no issues working out pretty hard Whereas some stuff just see oh I fucked up I fucked up eating but Because of all the laws that have been in existence since the 1930s regarding hemp and marijuana,

02:20:02.000 that's one thing that a lot of people don't even realize is that the laws were actually put in place to stop hemp as a commodity, not really to stop marijuana.

02:20:12.000 They stopped marijuana to stop hemp.

02:20:15.000 I mean, it was all done by William Randolph Hearst. 1.00

02:20:18.000 This fucking asshole in the 1930s ruined things in 2017 with propaganda. 1.00

02:20:24.000 Even the term marijuana was never used. 1.00

02:20:27.000 Marijuana was a wild Mexican tobacco. 0.99

02:20:30.000 The reason why they used the term marijuana is because they could, instead of saying cannabis, which everybody already knew, instead of saying hemp, which everybody already knew, they said, well, there's this drug called marijuana, and these Mexicans and blacks are smoking this drug and raping all the white women. 0.99

02:20:44.000 Yeah, that was literally what they said. 0.98

02:20:46.000 Oh, yeah, in the 13th, that documentary, they talked about it. 0.98

02:20:48.000 Fucking amazing! 0.98

02:20:49.000 Same thing with opium and the Chinese from the railroads. 1.00

02:20:53.000 That, to this day, is why hemp is such a problem in this country. 0.98

02:20:57.000 All that bullshit from 1930-something is why we still have issues with it today. 0.87

02:21:03.000 So does the hemp protein, do you get high off of it or anything? 0.98

02:21:06.000 No.

02:21:06.000 No THC whatsoever.

02:21:08.000 It's just the fiber from the stalks.

02:21:10.000 It's not from the flowers.

02:21:10.000 No, I'm just curious because of me personally.

02:21:12.000 I'm going to try it.

02:21:14.000 Oh, hemp protein is amazing.

02:21:16.000 But I do have to tell you, CBDs, which are really great for pain and pain medication, or pain inflammation, things along those lines.

02:21:25.000 Some people, like Greg Fitzsimmons says he gets high off of it.

02:21:28.000 I don't understand that.

02:21:30.000 He said he tries that Charlotte's Web CBD oil, which is full profile hemp oil.

02:21:35.000 He says it gets them high.

02:21:36.000 He might be crazy.

02:21:39.000 It's Fitz.

02:21:40.000 Who knows? 1.00

02:21:41.000 He's a silly boy. 0.99

02:21:42.000 Things react differently to his metabolism. 0.99

02:21:44.000 Yeah.

02:21:44.000 But if we were reasonable and intelligent, we'd be making a shitload of things with hemp.

02:21:49.000 The fiber is so easy to regenerate.

02:21:52.000 It's so easy to grow.

02:21:53.000 It's totally sustainable.

02:21:54.000 It's healthy.

02:21:55.000 Maybe that will change.

02:21:58.000 I'm hoping.

02:21:58.000 Maybe that will change in time.

02:22:01.000 We're slowly, slowly waking up and getting rid of those, well, like you said, the propaganda that created it, you know.

02:22:09.000 Well, another thing is that you can make plastic with it.

02:22:12.000 You can make degradable, biodegradable hemp plastic.

02:22:16.000 Well, even weed.

02:22:17.000 I mean, you know, people, we've had legal weed, right?

02:22:20.000 People aren't running the streets raping. 0.62

02:22:22.000 I am.

02:22:22.000 Well, yeah, but Joe, you might have been.

02:22:24.000 I just smoke pot.

02:22:26.000 I don't even know who I am.

02:22:27.000 I wake up.

02:22:27.000 I wake up covered in blood.

02:22:30.000 Joe, there's an argument that it wasn't the weed.

02:22:32.000 Nah, that's right here. 0.99

02:22:34.000 The idea that this is the one that's illegal is so fucking crazy. 0.90

02:22:39.000 You can just go to a liquor store, just go to a bar, almost anywhere you look. 0.90

02:22:45.000 And that's the lobby.

02:22:47.000 I've read this crazy article about the weed thing in Vegas.

02:22:51.000 Like, they made a compromise with the liquor lobby that you had to have a liquor distributor license to distribute the marijuana, to literally take it to the dispensaries, and no one got the license, so they couldn't deliver it.

02:23:05.000 I mean, I'm sure they figured it out, but initially, like, nobody could deliver it.

02:23:10.000 The liquor company was like, well...

02:23:12.000 Why would we deliver it?

02:23:14.000 We don't want to.

02:23:15.000 We want you to drink.

02:23:17.000 Well, they were running into a shortage.

02:23:19.000 It was so chaotic when they first started.

02:23:21.000 Yeah, because they couldn't distribute it anywhere.

02:23:23.000 It was crazy.

02:23:24.000 They couldn't keep up with the demand either.

02:23:26.000 It was just so insane.

02:23:27.000 Oh, no doubt.

02:23:28.000 No doubt.

02:23:29.000 And they still have the money issue, right?

02:23:32.000 They still have the issue of the risk of putting it into banks, especially with Sessions.

02:23:37.000 Sessions wanting to be some anti-weed guy. 0.93

02:23:39.000 That little goofy elf. 1.00

02:23:40.000 What a weird fucker that guy is. 1.00

02:23:44.000 I like watching Trump shit on him. 1.00

02:23:46.000 You see him just swallow it and eat it. 1.00

02:23:49.000 In the beginning, Trump was real high on him, and then he wouldn't recluse himself because of the investigation of Russia.

02:23:57.000 My favorite joke was when Roy Wood Jr. called Sessions a Confederate monument.

02:24:04.000 That's a great joke.

02:24:06.000 Yeah, he was a guy that was...

02:24:09.000 It was Ted Kennedy that was calling him a disgrace back in the 1980s.

02:24:15.000 Oh, this guy was... 0.65

02:24:16.000 Well, he was too racist to be a judge in the Reagan era.

02:24:22.000 And I mean, literally, Congress was like, no, you're too far gone. 0.99

02:24:27.000 And yeah, this guy has a long history of crazy.

02:24:30.000 Well, he wants to bring back the just say no days.

02:24:33.000 Literally said that he wants to bring back the policy of just say no and the war on drugs.

02:24:38.000 Yeah, the war on drugs, throwing people in jail forever.

02:24:41.000 Just say no.

02:24:43.000 He's still living in the Nancy Reagan days.

02:24:46.000 It's amazing.

02:24:47.000 And that was probably progressive for him.

02:24:50.000 You know what I mean?

02:24:51.000 That was a lot.

02:24:53.000 Yeah, he's moved away from the far right.

02:24:56.000 He's one of those guys that, like, he wants it to be 1950. Yeah.

02:25:01.000 That's his dream. 0.99

02:25:02.000 That's when he was kicking ass. 0.99

02:25:03.000 He was in high school back then, getting all the ladies. 1.00

02:25:05.000 Things were good.

02:25:06.000 He wants it to be 1950. Black people were segregated.

02:25:10.000 There were no Mexicans. 0.95

02:25:11.000 Like, Mexicans didn't even exist in the 1950s.

02:25:14.000 Ricky Ricardo was the closest thing we had to a Mexican.

02:25:16.000 He was the only Latino in America.

02:25:19.000 And the Jets.

02:25:20.000 And the Jets at West Side Story.

02:25:22.000 Isn't that crazy if Ricky Ricardo, though, was Cuban?

02:25:24.000 Cubans were completely respectable.

02:25:26.000 It's like a man from Spain.

02:25:28.000 Like a man from Spain, coming over to America, would be a Spanish gentleman. 0.84

02:25:31.000 Right.

02:25:32.000 You know?

02:25:32.000 It's like there's a difference.

02:25:33.000 Like when people started looking at Mexicans, it became this different thing.

02:25:37.000 Well, Cuba was Vegas.

02:25:39.000 Yeah, it was.

02:25:40.000 Cuba was Vegas.

02:25:41.000 My dad was around in that era when Cuba was where you went on vacation and gambling and all that stuff.

02:25:47.000 The mob ran it all.

02:25:48.000 Yeah.

02:25:49.000 That must have been weird times, huh?

02:25:50.000 Yeah, that had to be crazy, but...

02:25:52.000 They still have the cars from back then.

02:25:54.000 Mm-hmm.

02:25:55.000 And they keep them running with anything.

02:25:57.000 Anything.

02:25:58.000 You talk about engineers.

02:25:59.000 Can you imagine if today you still had to keep a 1953 Chevy running with like...

02:26:06.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

02:26:07.000 Lawnmower engines and shit. 0.99

02:26:08.000 Oh, you might think you're creative, but here's a 1953 Chevy, half of a boat engine, and a lawnmower. 1.00

02:26:17.000 This is literally the professor from Gilligan's Island where you just make shit work. 0.97

02:26:24.000 Kids today don't remember that show. 0.98

02:26:26.000 They remember MacGyver.

02:26:27.000 The professor from Gilligan's Island was the original MacGyver.

02:26:30.000 Oh, the professor used to make machines out of bananas and palm fronds. 0.99

02:26:36.000 If they had that show today, everybody would be fucking. 0.99

02:26:38.000 Nobody fucked back then. 1.00

02:26:40.000 No. 0.97

02:26:40.000 Nothing ever happened on TV. Ginger would just always have makeup on and flirt with everybody. 0.97

02:26:44.000 Yeah, she had heels in the dress on all the time. 1.00

02:26:47.000 And the smart people would look at Mary Ann and go, I want Mary Ann's the move. 0.99

02:26:51.000 That's the move.

02:26:52.000 You want her.

02:26:53.000 She's like low-key. 0.56

02:26:54.000 She's probably a freak in bed, but she's like, shh. 1.00

02:26:58.000 She was probably banging Gilligan. 1.00

02:26:59.000 You think so?

02:27:00.000 Yeah.

02:27:00.000 In real life?

02:27:01.000 No, you figure the Professor and the Skipper were fighting over Ginger all the time, right?

02:27:08.000 And the Hollows had each other.

02:27:10.000 Yeah.

02:27:10.000 So Mary Ann, she just, you know, slipped in and out on Gilligan.

02:27:14.000 What about Skipper? 1.00

02:27:15.000 That poor fuck. 1.00

02:27:18.000 Bizarre attacks in Havana hit U.S. spy network in Cuba. 1.00

02:27:21.000 What is that?

02:27:22.000 I was looking at recent news and this is coming out yesterday.

02:27:27.000 Attacks on U.S. personnel in Havana.

02:27:30.000 What is this?

02:27:31.000 What's happening to them?

02:27:32.000 Spies posted to the embassy under diplomatic cover, reported hearing bizarre sounds and experiencing...

02:27:39.000 Oh, this was audio attacks, right?

02:27:42.000 They were hitting them with sound... 0.99

02:27:44.000 Oh shit, sorry. 0.99

02:27:45.000 Wrong button. 0.99

02:27:45.000 What happened now? 0.99

02:27:46.000 Experiencing even stranger physical effects.

02:27:48.000 The United States realized something was wrong.

02:27:51.000 Individuals familiar with the situation said...

02:27:53.000 Yeah, they were using some sonic weapon.

02:27:57.000 It started within days of President Donald Trump's surprise election in November.

02:28:02.000 Surprise election?

02:28:04.000 Okay.

02:28:05.000 The precise timeline remains unclear, including whether intelligence officers were the first victims hit or merely the first victims to report it.

02:28:14.000 The U.S. has called the situation ongoing.

02:28:16.000 To date, the Trump administration largely has described the 21 victims.

02:28:21.000 Wow.

02:28:21.000 Had the U.S. Embassy personnel or members of the diplomatic community That description suggested only bona fide diplomats and their family members were struck with no logical motivation beyond disrupting U.S.-Cuban relations.

02:28:35.000 Yeah, it was some sort of a...

02:28:37.000 See, they're not even describing what kind of attack it is.

02:29:03.000 Oh, there's an ad for me in New Year's.

02:29:05.000 Hmm, interesting.

02:29:06.000 Have you ever heard of the brown note?

02:29:08.000 What's that?

02:29:09.000 I thought that maybe it was getting at this, but I don't even know if it's actually real, but it sounds like it's real. 0.98

02:29:14.000 It's a sonic note that can be used, supposedly weaponized, to make someone shit themselves. 0.92

02:29:19.000 Oh, I did hear about that.

02:29:21.000 When I was in audio school, I remember we were asking our teacher if that's a possibility or whatnot, and I don't know if we ever got anywhere realistic.

02:29:29.000 Let's not test it while I'm here.

02:29:32.000 How's that sound?

02:29:33.000 I don't know who your next guest is.

02:29:38.000 You wouldn't know to hear it.

02:29:40.000 Oh.

02:29:41.000 Because human hearing stops at 20 hertz, which is a low bass, and you have to have really good hearing to even hear that.

02:29:47.000 So if you do a sound test, someone will play that sound, and it'll almost just sound like a pressure.

02:29:52.000 You'll feel like a pressure change in your head. 1.00

02:29:54.000 I have a friend whose ears are fucked up. 1.00

02:29:57.000 My friend John Dudley, you know John Dudley. 1.00

02:29:58.000 His ears are fucked up from guns. 0.99

02:30:00.000 Like, he shot a lot of guns when he was younger and he blew his hearing out. 0.99

02:30:03.000 So he has a hard time hearing certain things, but he can hear really deep sounds way better than I can.

02:30:10.000 My hearing is good, but he's got like, it's almost like You know when someone is blind, they can hear better? 0.98

02:30:16.000 It's almost like that. 0.98

02:30:17.000 Like, his hearing is fucked up, but certain notes penetrate that don't get me. 0.99

02:30:22.000 Like, he can hear, like, deep sounds. 0.99

02:30:25.000 Like an animal grunting.

02:30:27.000 And he's like, you hear that?

02:30:28.000 I'm like, no.

02:30:29.000 I don't hear anything. 0.99

02:30:30.000 Like, you can hear shit that most people can't hear. 0.99

02:30:32.000 It's weird. 0.98

02:30:33.000 It's very weird. 0.99

02:30:34.000 Because most of his sound is fucked up. 0.99

02:30:36.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:30:36.000 So he just... 0.99

02:30:38.000 Is that Brown Note real?

02:30:40.000 That's why I was sort of asking if you'd ever heard of it.

02:30:42.000 I have heard of it.

02:30:42.000 That would be your best and worst podcast ever.

02:30:46.000 The Brown Note podcast?

02:30:47.000 Yes. 0.97

02:30:48.000 A bunch of people driving their cars, just shitting themselves on the train, shitting themselves on planes. 0.99

02:30:52.000 Oh my god, that was amazing, but I hate it.

02:30:55.000 Yeah, imagine you play it in the background of the most amazing podcast ever like you have.

02:31:00.000 Some really cool person in here, really interesting subject.

02:31:04.000 I remember Mythbusters tried to do this and I think they used a really, really big sound system to try to recreate this low frequency because it's almost impossible to get.

02:31:14.000 And I think they didn't get very far. 0.99

02:31:16.000 Because they don't have that government shit, bro. 0.99

02:31:17.000 Stuff they're using in Cuba. 1.00

02:31:19.000 Maybe that's what's going on. 0.99

02:31:20.000 Those people are shitting themselves. 0.97

02:31:21.000 They just don't want to say it. 0.99

02:31:22.000 That's what I did.

02:31:23.000 I was hoping it would say something like that.

02:31:25.000 Yeah, I wonder what the sonic attack is.

02:31:27.000 Like, do they point it at you?

02:31:29.000 They have that, I know, for sure.

02:31:31.000 The speakers that can be...

02:31:32.000 They can literally point it at you, like, across the street. 0.99

02:31:35.000 Press a button, the sound's going right at you, and fucking with your hearing. 0.96

02:31:38.000 Yeah, well, sound is directional, so that absolutely makes sense. 0.98

02:31:41.000 Yeah.

02:31:43.000 How weird is that, that they're doing...

02:31:44.000 Who's doing that?

02:31:45.000 Must be someone in the Cuban government, doesn't want us over there. 1.00

02:31:49.000 Just to fuck with the... 1.00

02:31:51.000 Just to fuck with the diplomats. 1.00

02:31:52.000 The Yankee spies. 1.00

02:31:53.000 Like they said, that is something that's always going on, though.

02:31:56.000 Just little games they play with each other.

02:31:58.000 Yeah.

02:31:59.000 In Cuba, they couldn't even hear them.

02:32:01.000 And they weren't even aware of an attack.

02:32:03.000 Later, they had symptoms.

02:32:05.000 Oh, wow.

02:32:06.000 Probably a hell of a headache.

02:32:08.000 I would imagine.

02:32:09.000 Yeah.

02:32:11.000 Boy, imagine if that gets in the wrong hands. 0.95

02:32:14.000 What if that becomes like, you know, technology gets into the hands of regular people eventually, like tasers and shit. 0.97

02:32:19.000 You just go buy a taser. 0.99

02:32:20.000 Imagine you could buy some sound shit and just point it at your neighbor while he's mowing the lawn. 0.98

02:32:24.000 Do you know if EMP, is an EMP a real threat to, like, America or whatever? 0.97

02:32:29.000 Like, Matrix-style EMP wipes out all the electronics in a certain area.

02:32:33.000 Well, the real issue with it is natural.

02:32:36.000 Solar blasts.

02:32:37.000 Any sort of solar flare.

02:32:39.000 I mean, there's a massive potential for solar interruption of our entire power grid.

02:32:46.000 Like some massive solar flare happens and just cooks all of our satellites.

02:32:50.000 The entire power grid, we have to start from scratch.

02:32:53.000 We're down no power for months.

02:32:54.000 The EMP, whoa, we're in Puerto Rico.

02:32:58.000 The EMP is real, but I think you have to create so much power to have one that big.

02:33:04.000 I think that's the limiting factor on it.

02:33:07.000 I had a guy in here.

02:33:09.000 Peter Schiff was here.

02:33:09.000 What is this?

02:33:10.000 The day the sun brought darkness.

02:33:13.000 In Quebec, there was a blackout caused by a solar flare.

02:33:16.000 That was in the 90s?

02:33:17.000 89, it says.

02:33:18.000 Ah, okay.

02:33:19.000 The entire province of Quebec, Canada, suffered an electrical power blackout.

02:33:23.000 Hundreds of blackouts occurred in some parts of North America every year.

02:33:26.000 The Quebec blackout was different because this one was caused by a solar storm.

02:33:30.000 Yeah.

02:33:31.000 Apparently, what we've tracked so far in terms of solar activity is just a...

02:33:37.000 Tiny fraction of what the Sun is capable of the Sun is capable of some pretty wild variations and if those wild variations if it hits like a real odd end It could just fuck our entire system up.

02:33:50.000 Well, we're at the mercy of nature always, you know, no matter how big our egos get over our What we build. 0.99

02:34:00.000 Nature is like, I'll wipe that shit out in a minute. 0.99

02:34:03.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

02:34:04.000 I used to do a joke about that.

02:34:06.000 Like, oh, look at my beach house. 0.98

02:34:09.000 Beach houses are ridiculous. 0.51

02:34:11.000 I stayed at one for a while and at nighttime it reveals itself. 0.94

02:34:15.000 In the daytime it looks beautiful.

02:34:17.000 Look at all that beautiful blue water.

02:34:19.000 It's amazing.

02:34:20.000 It's so pretty.

02:34:21.000 Look at the seagulls.

02:34:22.000 The night, the ocean. 0.89

02:34:23.000 At night it is a black monster.

02:34:26.000 It's like space. 0.98

02:34:27.000 It's a dark monster because you don't see anything and you realize like oh that is fucking quadrillions of gallons of water that could just swallow up the entire city. 0.61

02:34:37.000 Tons of weight and pressure. 0.55

02:34:38.000 Just like this.

02:34:40.000 It's like snow.

02:34:41.000 Snow is the same way.

02:34:42.000 It's shut everything down.

02:34:44.000 Just a major snowfall.

02:34:46.000 But you don't live next to snow. 0.93

02:34:48.000 That's the fucked up thing about living next to the ocean is that you're literally on the edge. 0.99

02:34:52.000 But you can live in one of those places that gets hit with 10 feet of snow, 12 feet of snow, and you're screwed. 0.99

02:34:59.000 Yeah, but you can see that shit coming and get out of Dodge. 1.00

02:35:02.000 But we don't. 1.00

02:35:03.000 No.

02:35:04.000 But the water thing is crazy because all those rich people live on the edge.

02:35:08.000 Yeah.

02:35:08.000 That's the same thing with earthquakes.

02:35:10.000 I told my mom a long time ago, like, she'd be, are you okay?

02:35:13.000 I said, Mom, let's hope one day I make enough money to live somewhere I have to worry about, you know, fires.

02:35:20.000 You know what I mean?

02:35:21.000 Like, I live in a valley.

02:35:22.000 I'm fine.

02:35:23.000 Like, I wish I had to worry about fires.

02:35:26.000 Do you keep water?

02:35:26.000 There's no brush clearing.

02:35:28.000 A little bit.

02:35:28.000 No, I don't have a full kit.

02:35:30.000 I have a Red Cross kit and a couple of gallons of water, but I'm going to expand on that.

02:35:36.000 I have some food, some freeze-dried food.

02:35:40.000 You know, a guy who went through Katrina told me cash.

02:35:44.000 Cash?

02:35:45.000 He said, keep cash in the house.

02:35:47.000 He said, after Katrina, milk was $100 a gallon.

02:35:50.000 A hundred?

02:35:51.000 Yeah.

02:35:52.000 Whoa.

02:35:53.000 Yeah, he said you got to keep a large sum of cash in the house as part of your disaster kit.

02:35:58.000 Something I never would have thought of, but he said, yeah, if there's a disaster, the price of everything goes up and cash is the only currency.

02:36:05.000 Like, you can't use credit cards if there's no electricity.

02:36:08.000 Wasn't there an issue in Houston where people were getting arrested for price gouging on water and stuff like that?

02:36:12.000 Oh, yeah.

02:36:12.000 Yeah, they were charging, I don't know, what was it, 90 bucks a case, I think, for water and $100 a gallon for gas or something.

02:36:22.000 It's human nature.

02:36:24.000 Yeah, indeed.

02:36:25.000 What are you going to do with us?

02:36:26.000 I wish we could wrap this up on a nice note, but I've got to end this.

02:36:30.000 All right.

02:36:30.000 Anything good to say to people?

02:36:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:36:33.000 Be nice to people.

02:36:35.000 You know what bothers...

02:36:36.000 No, seriously.

02:36:38.000 This is a little thing, but you know what bothers me?

02:36:41.000 If you're in the elevator, don't hit the door close button.

02:36:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:36:45.000 That's just the asshole button. 1.00

02:36:46.000 It's just an asshole. 1.00

02:36:48.000 There's no time the door closes. 1.00

02:36:50.000 That's an asshole move. 1.00

02:36:51.000 People like it, though. 1.00

02:36:52.000 They like to press that button and see someone almost...

02:36:54.000 Oh, you went away!

02:36:56.000 That's how I'm changing the world, Joe.

02:36:59.000 That's how I'm changing.

02:36:59.000 Listen, I can't solve gun violence.

02:37:02.000 I can't help with the football protests or anything.

02:37:05.000 But if you can just...

02:37:06.000 Not press the door close button.

02:37:08.000 It's a start. 1.00

02:37:09.000 But there are some dumb motherfuckers with like four kids when the elevator's completely packed. 1.00

02:37:15.000 Like, hold the door! 1.00

02:37:16.000 Hold the door! 0.99

02:37:16.000 Like, where are you going? 0.99

02:37:18.000 Where are you going?

02:37:19.000 Where are you going?

02:37:20.000 And if your kid presses every button on the elevator and he accidentally takes one to the head, we can't be held responsible.

02:37:27.000 See?

02:37:28.000 See, I'm not saying that.

02:37:29.000 His head is elbow height.

02:37:31.000 We're just moving.

02:37:32.000 I'm not saying that.

02:37:32.000 He got in the way of moving.

02:37:33.000 I'm just saying, stay away from the door close button.

02:37:36.000 Don't press that door close button, ladies and gentlemen.

02:37:38.000 That's a strong advice from Alonzo Bowden.

02:37:41.000 It's the wings of a butterfly that eventually become a hurricane.

02:37:45.000 Exactly.

02:37:46.000 You letting someone in that elevator might change the course of history.

02:37:48.000 Think about it.

02:37:49.000 It's like when Peter Parker let that burglar pass by and it killed his Uncle Ben.

02:37:55.000 Boom.

02:37:55.000 And it turned him into Spider-Man.

02:37:57.000 Exactly.

02:37:57.000 Yeah.

02:37:58.000 Alright.

02:37:59.000 Strong words.

02:38:00.000 I like it.

02:38:00.000 Alonzo Bowden, ladies and gentlemen.

02:38:02.000 Thanks, Joe.

02:38:02.000 Thank you, brother.

02:38:15.000 Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience - October 03, 2017

Joe Rogan Experience #1018 - Alonzo Bodden

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