The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1089 - John Dudley

00:00:01.000 Five, four, three, two, one.

00:00:06.000 Thunk!

00:00:07.000 There's that sound that everybody knows.

00:00:09.000 Thunk!

00:00:10.000 Like, if you play that sound, people know that's an arrow, right?

00:00:13.000 Yep.

00:00:13.000 Thunk!

00:00:14.000 It may be a throwing knife.

00:00:17.000 Thunk!

00:00:18.000 But you know it is an arrow.

00:00:20.000 Dang right we do.

00:00:21.000 Dang right.

00:00:22.000 That's an Iowa boy right there.

00:00:24.000 Had some Midwest coming out of you.

00:00:26.000 Sometimes I hear you on your podcast and I'm like, man, he is so Midwest.

00:00:29.000 It's hilarious.

00:00:30.000 Sorry about that.

00:00:31.000 Don't apologize.

00:00:32.000 It's awesome.

00:00:32.000 I'm actually more of a half-breed.

00:00:34.000 I'm a...

00:00:35.000 A little bit of South, right?

00:00:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:00:37.000 I was a redneck for a while, and then became a Yankee. 0.98

00:00:43.000 The people up North, they don't give a shit what people think, North or South, but the people from the South, my family, they're like, you're part Yankee now. 0.98

00:00:53.000 Yeah, isn't that weird? 0.99

00:00:54.000 It's so weird.

00:00:55.000 They lost, that's why.

00:00:57.000 They lost that Civil War thing.

00:00:59.000 Can you imagine?

00:01:01.000 I mean, we're several generations removed, but imagine growing up in like the late 1800s when it just happened.

00:01:08.000 And you're dealing with Yankees, there must have been a lot of murders, right? 0.99

00:01:11.000 People killed Northerners, and Northerners killed Southerners, and there must have been a lot of that. 0.83

00:01:15.000 It was ruthless, I'm sure. 1.00

00:01:17.000 How the fuck did that happen? 0.99

00:01:19.000 That is a crazy time. 0.99

00:01:20.000 If you think about the history of this country, that just 200 years ago, we were in, you know, less.

00:01:27.000 We were in the middle of a bitter war from the North versus the South.

00:01:33.000 Americans fighting Americans to the death. 0.96

00:01:35.000 Big fields full of dead people.

00:01:39.000 My dad was at one of the fields.

00:01:41.000 I forget which field it was.

00:01:45.000 But he said, you know, it's one of those memorial places in the south, and he said the feeling...

00:01:51.000 Gettysburg or something?

00:01:51.000 Yeah, you know what?

00:01:52.000 It was Gettysburg.

00:01:53.000 And he said, you feel it.

00:01:55.000 He's like, you feel sadness there.

00:01:57.000 Yeah.

00:01:57.000 It's like, I know it sounds crazy, and he was saying, I don't even believe in that stuff.

00:02:02.000 But you feel it.

00:02:03.000 Like, you're there, you're like, oh...

00:02:05.000 Yeah, we've been in a few memorials, a few memorials and a few big, you know, like, especially like military cemeteries.

00:02:15.000 You just, you know, another one, I felt it like exactly what you're saying.

00:02:20.000 I went to a historic part of Custer where they lost the battle.

00:02:26.000 Oh, wow.

00:02:27.000 And I walked the whole hill and everything.

00:02:29.000 You can feel it there.

00:02:31.000 Wow.

00:02:31.000 What is that?

00:02:32.000 Do you think there's like memory in places?

00:02:34.000 Hell yeah, there is.

00:02:36.000 Yeah, it probably is, right?

00:02:37.000 I think there is.

00:02:38.000 There's probably an instinctive reason why people don't want to live in a house where someone was murdered.

00:02:43.000 Yeah, I don't want to live there.

00:02:45.000 I don't want to live there.

00:02:46.000 Like there's a house that JonBenet Ramsey was killed in in Colorado. 1.00

00:02:51.000 They can't sell that fucking house. 0.99

00:02:53.000 Dude, I lived there nine years ago. 1.00

00:02:58.000 Eight years ago?

00:02:59.000 Nine years ago?

00:03:00.000 And they were selling it then.

00:03:01.000 They still can't sell it.

00:03:03.000 It's a beautiful house.

00:03:04.000 It's in a really nice neighborhood.

00:03:06.000 Can't sell it.

00:03:07.000 They haven't changed the name of the street.

00:03:08.000 They changed the name of the street.

00:03:09.000 Still can't sell it.

00:03:10.000 I'm not kidding.

00:03:12.000 They just can't sell it.

00:03:13.000 Does it have, like, historical ghost sightings and stuff?

00:03:18.000 Or is it just the killing?

00:03:19.000 Just the killing and the whole darkness all behind it.

00:03:23.000 I mean, it wasn't just a little girl died, but there's all this darkness.

00:03:28.000 She was sexually active. 0.99

00:03:29.000 There was something going on. 0.63

00:03:30.000 Like, someone was probably molesting her.

00:03:32.000 Someone in the family or someone else.

00:03:34.000 Who knows?

00:03:34.000 They think someone in the family might have killed her.

00:03:36.000 They don't know who it was.

00:03:38.000 It's never been solved.

00:03:39.000 No one's ever been tried.

00:03:41.000 It's dark.

00:03:42.000 Yeah, I'm not moving there. 1.00

00:03:43.000 Fuck that. 1.00

00:03:44.000 They can keep that house. 1.00

00:03:45.000 They can keep that house.

00:03:46.000 I think they should level that thing to the ground and maybe even do something with the ground underneath it. 1.00

00:03:51.000 Scoop all that shit out. 0.99

00:03:52.000 Put some new dirt in. 1.00

00:03:54.000 I'm not kidding.

00:03:55.000 I'm not kidding.

00:03:56.000 Like, that might be the only way.

00:03:58.000 Who are you going to throw that mojo on, though?

00:04:00.000 You got to put that dirt somewhere.

00:04:04.000 Yeah.

00:04:05.000 Who's worthy of taking it?

00:04:06.000 Right.

00:04:06.000 Where would you put that dirt?

00:04:07.000 You'd have to exercise it.

00:04:08.000 You'd have to build, like, the most awesome park for kids.

00:04:12.000 Like you'd have to turn that house into something positive.

00:04:16.000 I don't want to do anything for kids there for sure.

00:04:19.000 That would be bad taste.

00:04:20.000 But you could always take that big scoop and kind of put it in a freak party desert or something where people that like ghosts and crap can go out there and play in it or camp on it. 0.95

00:04:31.000 Nobody likes little kid ghosts. 0.58

00:04:32.000 You want like some old man ghost can tell you secrets.

00:04:36.000 Have you ever seen a ghost?

00:04:38.000 Do you think you've ever seen a ghost?

00:04:39.000 No, I do not.

00:04:40.000 Have you ever experienced something that was, like, super creepy?

00:04:43.000 You know what?

00:04:44.000 A couple of my friends at the Comedy Store have claimed to have seen ghosts and claimed to have seen things.

00:04:50.000 And I, with many of my friends that work there and comics and stuff, we've gone upstairs to the belly room in the dark and just freaked ourselves out and went, ah!

00:04:58.000 Ran out of there.

00:04:59.000 Stoned out of our mind.

00:05:00.000 I feel it!

00:05:01.000 We gotta go!

00:05:02.000 Or you go into the main room at night and you're like, give me a hug!

00:05:05.000 Hold me! 0.66

00:05:06.000 I'm scared.

00:05:08.000 It's a weird place, man.

00:05:10.000 People for sure have been murdered there. 0.99

00:05:12.000 It was Bugsy Siegel's nightclub in the 1930s or 40s or some shit. 0.99

00:05:17.000 It was Ciro's nightclub. 0.79

00:05:19.000 Yeah, there's definitely some mojo there too.

00:05:22.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

00:05:23.000 How did we get going down the path to death?

00:05:27.000 I mean, all I did was ride a werewolf.

00:05:30.000 That picture's awesome.

00:05:31.000 Go to my Instagram.

00:05:32.000 John Dudley is riding the werewolf.

00:05:34.000 We were trying to figure out...

00:05:35.000 Well, the werewolves...

00:05:36.000 Patrick McGee made that werewolf, and it comes in two pieces.

00:05:40.000 You slide it out.

00:05:41.000 Oh, Patrick McGee has a new movie out.

00:05:42.000 I should pump his new movie out.

00:05:44.000 If you're into...

00:05:45.000 There it is.

00:05:46.000 I didn't even see it yet. 1.00

00:05:48.000 Look at that fucking picture, man! 1.00

00:05:50.000 Oh my god, it's hilarious. 1.00

00:05:51.000 It's got 5,000 likes already.

00:05:53.000 I put it up two minutes ago.

00:05:55.000 That's such an awesome picture.

00:05:57.000 I know.

00:05:57.000 But Pat McGee, the guy who made that, just made a movie.

00:06:01.000 A Bigfoot movie.

00:06:02.000 It's called Primal Scream, I think.

00:06:05.000 Isn't that what it's called?

00:06:06.000 It just came out.

00:06:07.000 Is it a legit one?

00:06:09.000 Like a horror movie.

00:06:10.000 Oh.

00:06:11.000 Yeah, like Bigfoot's a Monster.

00:06:13.000 Okay. 0.99

00:06:14.000 Killing people. 1.00

00:06:14.000 I'll watch that. 1.00

00:06:15.000 Jacking people in the woods.

00:06:16.000 I'll watch that.

00:06:17.000 Yeah, it got good reviews.

00:06:18.000 I hope it's good.

00:06:19.000 I love me a good Bigfoot movie.

00:06:21.000 And there's not a whole lot of them.

00:06:23.000 I think we would have saw Bigfoot a long time ago.

00:06:25.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

00:06:28.000 What would you do if you actually ran across one?

00:06:32.000 Double lung.

00:06:33.000 Would you take the penalty?

00:06:36.000 Double lung, prove a point?

00:06:39.000 No. 1.00

00:06:40.000 I would hope I'd have my camera on me, but then people would call me a fucking liar. 0.99

00:06:44.000 That would be a bummer. 0.99

00:06:45.000 If you really saw Bigfoot, you're like, God damn it, he's real. 0.98

00:06:48.000 Now everyone's going to think I'm crazy. 0.98

00:06:50.000 Because everybody that I know that believes in Bigfoot, I'm always like, alright.

00:06:54.000 I think even if you got a picture, no one's going to believe. 1.00

00:06:59.000 Yeah, then all the good faith that you've built up by being honest all these years, people are like, fuck that guy. 1.00

00:07:06.000 He's full of shit. 1.00

00:07:07.000 He faked a Bigfoot sighting, man. 1.00

00:07:10.000 Yeah.

00:07:11.000 I wouldn't shoot it.

00:07:12.000 Definitely not.

00:07:13.000 But I think if it was real, I really do believe that if it was real, this is the trailer for Omaha. 0.75

00:07:20.000 See, and Pat McGee did this with all special effects like suits and shit and actual makeup and prosthetics and all the stuff that they used in the old movies. 0.99

00:07:31.000 Like, he doesn't believe in that CGI shit. 0.99

00:07:34.000 I think he's got a point. 1.00

00:07:35.000 That CGI shit, it's just too... 1.00

00:07:37.000 It takes away... 1.00

00:07:38.000 It does.

00:07:38.000 I mean, you look back at some of the movies that scared the, you know, scared the hell out of you when you were a kid and you watch them now and you're like, what?

00:07:47.000 Man, it just seems so much more real.

00:07:50.000 But if you watch something where you know it's fake, you almost can't picture the fact that it's flesh and blood.

00:07:57.000 Right.

00:07:57.000 You don't feel it.

00:07:59.000 Like some of those Transformer-type movies, they're smashing buildings and you're like, I know this isn't happening.

00:08:05.000 You don't feel it.

00:08:06.000 It doesn't feel like a real explosion.

00:08:08.000 It doesn't feel like a real robot. 0.98

00:08:10.000 It just feels like horseshit. 0.93

00:08:12.000 Yeah, but the Dinobots are pretty dope. 0.96

00:08:14.000 What's a Dinobot?

00:08:15.000 It's a dinosaur version.

00:08:17.000 Is that one of the Transformers?

00:08:18.000 Yeah.

00:08:19.000 You're well-schooled.

00:08:22.000 GoBots and Transformers were the bomb, man, when I was a kid.

00:08:26.000 That and Cabbage Patch Kids.

00:08:30.000 Isn't it crazy that Transformers became huge hit movies? 0.98

00:08:36.000 It was a dumb toy, right? 0.97

00:08:38.000 Yep. 0.99

00:08:39.000 Was it originally a toy?

00:08:40.000 Yeah.

00:08:41.000 Transformers?

00:08:42.000 They were cool. 0.99

00:08:42.000 I should say dumb toy. 0.99

00:08:43.000 If anyone's a collector, they're freaking out right now. 1.00

00:08:45.000 Dumb to me. 0.99

00:08:46.000 How about that? 0.99

00:08:47.000 Yeah, GoBots and Transformers.

00:08:48.000 They were, I mean, up before that, you had, you know, army men, muscle men.

00:08:53.000 You remember those?

00:08:54.000 Those little pink rubber muscle men? 0.95

00:08:56.000 They were all freaking jacked. 0.93

00:08:58.000 You know what I remember?

00:08:58.000 Remember Stretch Armstrong?

00:09:00.000 Yeah.

00:09:00.000 You pull them apart?

00:09:03.000 Yeah.

00:09:04.000 They never made a movie out of him, did they?

00:09:06.000 My boy.

00:09:07.000 What's funny is they didn't have, they did have some of that stuff.

00:09:10.000 There they are.

00:09:11.000 A little muscle bed. 0.98

00:09:12.000 There's something that looks really gay about that. 0.99

00:09:15.000 They're all pink. 0.95

00:09:17.000 They're all pink and...

00:09:18.000 Those were pretty cool. 1.00

00:09:20.000 Just on a roundabout guess, how many dudes have stuffed those up their ass? 1.00

00:09:23.000 Oh my god! 1.00

00:09:24.000 Hundreds?

00:09:25.000 Or thousands?

00:09:26.000 I'd say thousands.

00:09:27.000 Thousands, right? 1.00

00:09:28.000 Thousands of people have had those in their ass. 1.00

00:09:29.000 We're going down that road already. 1.00

00:09:31.000 Why not?

00:09:32.000 If you just...

00:09:33.000 We can pull out.

00:09:36.000 We can pull back.

00:09:37.000 Think of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, right?

00:09:41.000 Didn't that start off as a...

00:09:42.000 Was that a comic book?

00:09:44.000 It was a comic book.

00:09:44.000 That was a comic book.

00:09:45.000 Yeah, it wasn't a toy first.

00:09:48.000 My boy, he really got into, I don't know what it was, but he had this Peter Pan doll. 0.96

00:09:54.000 And I think because he didn't have a brother or sister, he would beat the shit out of this Peter Pan doll. 0.98

00:10:04.000 We're good to go. 1.00

00:10:28.000 He doesn't do it with anyone else but for whatever reason Peter Pan is just his little brother and he just kicks the shit out of that sucker. 1.00

00:10:36.000 Peter Pan's his bitch. 1.00

00:10:38.000 What about Robin Hood? 1.00

00:10:44.000 Did kids ever get a Robin Hood toy?

00:10:45.000 Yeah, they made a Disney movie.

00:10:46.000 I'm sure it got around.

00:10:48.000 No, but that was because of the story.

00:10:49.000 Right.

00:10:50.000 Robin Hood, the Disney movie, was all because of the original Robin Hood story.

00:10:52.000 You mean like physical action figures?

00:10:54.000 Were they popular?

00:10:54.000 I don't think so.

00:10:55.000 I don't think so.

00:10:57.000 Maybe when that Kevin Costner movie came out, they sold a few, but...

00:11:00.000 I bet they didn't.

00:11:03.000 I'd say a lot, maybe a few.

00:11:05.000 I forgot that was a movie.

00:11:06.000 How bad was Kevin Costner's form in that movie?

00:11:09.000 Was it okay?

00:11:10.000 Did you watch it and go, ooh, I gotta go. 0.98

00:11:13.000 It's like when I see bad karate movies, I'm like, get the fuck out of here. 0.98

00:11:16.000 I don't know. 0.97

00:11:17.000 Elvis doing karate.

00:11:19.000 I watched that.

00:11:19.000 Did you watch that video?

00:11:20.000 I told you.

00:11:21.000 I sent you a text.

00:11:22.000 I'm like, I watched that so long.

00:11:25.000 Kevin Costner and Christian Slater.

00:11:27.000 Oh, my God.

00:11:27.000 He was in that movie, too.

00:11:29.000 Check out that feather, the feathering on the back of his hair.

00:11:32.000 Yeah, it was beautiful.

00:11:33.000 Remember when the duck feather was kind of the style?

00:11:36.000 Yeah, the feathering the hair. 0.97

00:11:37.000 Somehow or another, he got his hair feathered while he was in the fucking forest in Nottingham with a perfect haircut. 0.99

00:11:43.000 Look at that. 0.99

00:11:44.000 Come on, man.

00:11:45.000 He's got his super cuts right down the street. 1.00

00:11:46.000 How the fuck did you get that haircut, son? 0.99

00:11:48.000 Did you see that haircut I got the other day at Cost Cutters? 1.00

00:11:50.000 Look how they made arrowheads. 0.97

00:11:52.000 Is that real?

00:11:52.000 Is that really how they did it?

00:11:53.000 Yeah.

00:11:54.000 It looks like he's pouring a full metal one.

00:11:56.000 Wow, that's dope.

00:11:57.000 Yeah, they would melt it down and pour it in a cast, pound that thing out.

00:12:01.000 Like a Rocky Mountain cutthroat or something. 0.98

00:12:04.000 Oh, look at this, showing them making the arrows and the bows and shit. 0.99

00:12:08.000 Yep. 0.99

00:12:09.000 Wow.

00:12:10.000 There he goes, dry firing it.

00:12:12.000 How did they possibly know?

00:12:13.000 Did they use scales to figure out how much the arrows weighed back then?

00:12:16.000 Look at this guy.

00:12:17.000 Hell no. 1.00

00:12:17.000 That fucking guy on the right is killing me. 1.00

00:12:20.000 That's about how everyone would shoot with that equipment nowadays. 1.00

00:12:23.000 Morgan Freeman was in this movie? 1.00

00:12:25.000 What in the fuck? 1.00

00:12:27.000 Beyond the Wormhole. 1.00

00:12:30.000 This is hilarious. 1.00

00:12:32.000 This is so dumb. 0.99

00:12:33.000 I'm a Kevin Costner fan, don't get me wrong, I'm not a hater, but damn, Kevin Costner's been in some stinkers. 0.99

00:12:38.000 Oh, now they're getting better, look. 0.97

00:12:39.000 Oh yeah.

00:12:40.000 They learned, see?

00:12:40.000 Look at him.

00:12:43.000 It wasn't bad.

00:12:44.000 He actually had a good release.

00:12:45.000 It wasn't bad.

00:12:45.000 Oh, he just split another one.

00:12:47.000 Wow.

00:12:48.000 Look at his skills.

00:12:49.000 See, people don't understand. 1.00

00:12:50.000 Splitting an arrow is fucking stupid. 1.00

00:12:54.000 It's costly. 1.00

00:12:56.000 It's not wise.

00:12:58.000 Well, at least there was no CGI in this, for sure.

00:13:01.000 Look at that.

00:13:02.000 He licked a feather before he fired.

00:13:04.000 Is he trying to curve it around?

00:13:05.000 I don't know what he's doing.

00:13:07.000 Why is he looking?

00:13:07.000 He's going to cut the string.

00:13:10.000 Look at this.

00:13:11.000 Oh, the drama's killing me!

00:13:13.000 I wasn't sure if it was gonna hit!

00:13:15.000 The drama is killing me! 0.79

00:13:17.000 That's a slow-ass arrow, right?

00:13:18.000 How many seconds? 0.73

00:13:21.000 I don't know.

00:13:22.000 Think if you shot that on an Axis deer. 1.00

00:13:24.000 The Axis deer would be like, bitch! 1.00

00:13:27.000 I've never seen anything like those things. 0.98

00:13:30.000 John and I hunted Axis deer in Hawaii, where they were brought over, I was reading, as a gift to the king in the 1800s.

00:13:40.000 I posted that today, actually.

00:13:41.000 Oh, did you?

00:13:42.000 Yeah.

00:13:42.000 That's probably where I was reading it.

00:13:45.000 I'm pretty sure I knew it already, but I think that's exactly where I was reading it.

00:13:49.000 But I've never seen anything move as fast as those things.

00:13:53.000 You could shoot at one that's 40 yards away, and by the time the arrow gets there, it's nowhere near it.

00:13:58.000 It's like...

00:13:58.000 Yeah, you need to load those fast twitch muscles in a UFC fighter of today.

00:14:04.000 Oh my god.

00:14:05.000 It'd just be Concussion City.

00:14:07.000 It'd be crazy.

00:14:07.000 I've never seen an animal react to something so quick, but it makes sense that they evolved around tigers.

00:14:13.000 Tigers and leopards. 1.00

00:14:15.000 What a fucking shit roll of the dice. 1.00

00:14:18.000 Imagine being tiger and leopard preferred food. 1.00

00:14:21.000 And that's the other thing about axis deer.

00:14:23.000 They are delicious.

00:14:25.000 They're like one of the most delicious animals on the planet.

00:14:28.000 And obviously tigers must know this.

00:14:30.000 Oh, I bet.

00:14:31.000 They have to know it.

00:14:32.000 I mean, there has to be a correlation between something that's extra fast and extra delicious.

00:14:38.000 I really think there is.

00:14:40.000 Well...

00:14:40.000 Doesn't that make sense?

00:14:42.000 Not really, right?

00:14:43.000 Because, like, who wants to eat a hummingbird? 1.00

00:14:45.000 Probably tastes like shit. 0.99

00:14:46.000 I think a lot of it's their diet, how much they're actually having to move around, too. 1.00

00:14:51.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:14:52.000 Because I think things that are running a lot, like full speed, it seems like the meat maybe isn't as tender.

00:14:58.000 But it's hard to say.

00:15:00.000 That's true.

00:15:00.000 Well, what I found is that Chad Ward method, your friend Whiskey Bent BBQ, he's changed the way I cook meat.

00:15:10.000 I do that reverse sear now and I use a meat thermometer always.

00:15:13.000 The only time I don't is when I will saute backstrap slices or steak slices in a frying pan like a cast iron grill.

00:15:23.000 I'll put some butter and some garlic salt and some cracked pepper and I'll just cook them pretty quick on a really hot skillet.

00:15:29.000 I like cooking like that too.

00:15:31.000 Yeah.

00:15:31.000 But when I cook like a roast or something like that or a thick piece of meat, I always use Chad's method.

00:15:36.000 Yep.

00:15:37.000 It's the way to go.

00:15:38.000 Get the internal temperature, I get it to around 120, and then I take it out and just sear the outside in the frying pan and let it sit for 10 minutes, and ooh!

00:15:47.000 One thing that a lot of people don't realize, too, when it comes to cooking a really good roast or steak or anything is I love having those soft Yeti bags or the smaller cooler.

00:16:00.000 And I'll take the stuff and actually kind of wrap it just slightly in foil or butcher paper and then put it in the cooler.

00:16:07.000 Yeah.

00:16:07.000 And let it actually stage in there and just stage in that moisture while I'm doing my vegetables because it takes about 20 minutes to do vegetables.

00:16:17.000 And then take it out right at the very end to do that reverse sear.

00:16:20.000 Normally, when I put it in there, it gives me time to get a cast iron pan hot enough with the butter to do a reverse sear.

00:16:27.000 So it's really good for timing and it really helps break down that protein a little bit and it just makes it that much more tender.

00:16:35.000 That's interesting because I was doing that for a while, but I was doing it after I did the sear.

00:16:39.000 I was taking it right from the grill, and then I was searing it.

00:16:43.000 Like, I'd have the pan ready.

00:16:44.000 I'd sear it right off the grill, and then I'd wrap it in foil and put it in the Yeti.

00:16:47.000 But then you don't get kind of that crispiness of the sear, which you like.

00:16:51.000 Right, because it stays moist.

00:16:52.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:16:53.000 Yeah.

00:16:54.000 Yeah, stage it first, start your veg, and then, like, you know, probably two minutes before you feel like you're going to pull your vegetables off.

00:17:01.000 Just get that butter going in that cast iron pan and then do your reverse sear. 0.99

00:17:05.000 You know, you can do one side and then as soon as you flip it, pull your veggies off the grill and you're literally, you can go right back to the, you know, that one side you reverse searing and take it off and you're serving hot.

00:17:17.000 Everything's totally hot.

00:17:19.000 Well, that's one thing that I really give credit to Steve Rinella.

00:17:22.000 Steve Rinella really got me interested in wild game cooking, and then Hank Shaw, who he had on his TV show, who's a brilliant chef, and he's got a couple of books out.

00:17:33.000 One of them is Buck Moose, I think, and then he's got another one.

00:17:38.000 Buck Duck Moose or something?

00:17:39.000 I had it sitting here for a while until we moved everything off this table.

00:17:42.000 This table gets so cluttered, I'm always trying to, everybody's always giving me books.

00:17:47.000 They're always just sitting here.

00:17:49.000 I just got one.

00:17:50.000 They're always just stacking up.

00:17:51.000 I've been meaning to give you this book that I wrote.

00:17:54.000 Buck Buck Moose, Recipes and Techniques for Cooking Deer, Elk, and Moose by Hank Shaw.

00:17:57.000 It's awesome.

00:17:58.000 It's really good.

00:17:59.000 And Rinella's book's really good, too.

00:18:01.000 He's got two of them.

00:18:02.000 Hunting and Cooking Wild Game.

00:18:04.000 I feel so inferior to those guys when it comes to cooking.

00:18:10.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:11.000 But I almost like the fact that That people really like my cooking, or at least the pictures and what I make.

00:18:19.000 People are really into it, because if they knew that my knowledge of cooking wild game is so limited, it should be hope for anybody to be able to cook that easy, because I'm not those guys.

00:18:32.000 I mean, I think if, you know, I would love to do that, but...

00:18:36.000 I'm as simple as it gets when it comes to grilling stuff.

00:18:40.000 Yeah, but I'm telling you, there's an art to that simplicity.

00:18:43.000 Just you describing your method for letting it stage and then searing it and what we learned from Chad when we cooked that wild pig.

00:18:51.000 That was amazing.

00:18:53.000 That was so good.

00:18:54.000 And I think there's...

00:18:56.000 There's something amazing in that simplicity because a lot of people fuck that simplicity up.

00:19:00.000 Like that simplicity is a real common one to screw up.

00:19:03.000 People just overdo it or overcook it or something goes wrong.

00:19:07.000 But Brunella really turned me on to all the various really fascinating dishes.

00:19:13.000 And he had several episodes of his TV show Meat Eater that are just dedicated to cooking.

00:19:18.000 And there's not a lot of hunting shows that ever have that.

00:19:21.000 It's always just about hunting, and then the shot of the animal getting shot, and then everybody's smiling and high-fiving, and that's it.

00:19:27.000 Roll credits.

00:19:28.000 That's pretty much 60-70% of all those hunting shows.

00:19:31.000 And his really stands out because it's like, hey, this guy is a real chef.

00:19:35.000 I mean, he's an amateur chef, but he's a real chef.

00:19:37.000 He knows a lot about cooking, and he makes these delicious meals, and they're intricate.

00:19:41.000 Like, he makes this really cool elk meatloaf.

00:19:43.000 It was really good.

00:19:44.000 I've never done anything with Steve.

00:19:47.000 We've passed.

00:19:48.000 We've actually been within the same group of friends talking at times, but we've never actually done something where we had to have a communication, just the two of us.

00:19:57.000 But yeah, he's a fascinating dude.

00:20:00.000 Very, very smart guy.

00:20:01.000 I would love to.

00:20:02.000 Actually, I talked with Remy, and I told Remy, I said, I would love to do...

00:20:10.000 Just a weekend getaway where we just go backcountry and all you teach...

00:20:14.000 I want to just follow Remy and see some of his natural camping and survival type skills.

00:20:22.000 And then actually do an on-the-mounting coaching thing with Remy.

00:20:27.000 We were talking about doing a show where I literally retrain his way of shooting while he's retraining my way of...

00:20:36.000 Backcountry hunting.

00:20:37.000 And literally, he's doing his element, I'm doing mine, and we're able to just do it in the middle of nowhere.

00:20:43.000 That sounds cool.

00:20:44.000 Yeah, it'd be pretty fun.

00:20:45.000 Well, I'm really fascinated by what Remy does and Tim Barnett and a bunch of those guys that have...

00:20:54.000 Really taking up solo backcountry hunting, where they backpack in, and they'll go in 20 miles with a backpack. 1.00

00:21:03.000 I mean, obviously, my favorite story is Adam Greentree, that fucking crazy bastard. 0.98

00:21:08.000 Our good friend Adam went all the way deep into the mountains of Colorado, and then again, he came out for a bit and went to Idaho, right? 1.00

00:21:16.000 Yep.

00:21:16.000 And that's when he had all the grizzly encounters.

00:21:18.000 But 28 days just living out of a backpack.

00:21:21.000 And putting his camp on its back most of the nights, just carrying it around and just living literally off your back.

00:21:27.000 And there's an art to that.

00:21:29.000 And Remy doesn't just do that, but he also solo films everything, which is incredible.

00:21:34.000 Well, I don't solo back Country Hunt, but I definitely have...

00:21:42.000 Really, most of my TV show experience has all been from self-filming.

00:21:46.000 I mean, I've been doing it 20-something years.

00:21:48.000 A lot of what you saw from me was all self-filmed, which a lot of people don't appreciate how tough that really is until...

00:21:57.000 I mean, it is hard.

00:21:59.000 It's hard enough to hunt and be successful, but to film it is like a whole new level.

00:22:05.000 Yeah, just to bring the cameras around with you.

00:22:07.000 And like with Remy, if you watch his show, Solo Hunter...

00:22:10.000 Or Tim Burnett, the other guy that's on that show.

00:22:12.000 They're always holding a tripod and running up a hill while they're also holding a bow and setting it up and putting the camera in place and then trying to draw back and trying to move the camera because the deer's moving.

00:22:24.000 GoPro's helped a lot.

00:22:26.000 I'm just fascinated by the people that choose to go deep into the woods and live by themselves and do it for long, long periods of time because it's...

00:22:36.000 It's a very interesting and solitary pursuit.

00:22:41.000 Like when you're out there, there's no TV, there's no phones, there's just you.

00:22:47.000 You only and a backpack and a little tent, maybe a bivy.

00:22:51.000 You're sleeping under the stars and then you get up in the morning and do it all over again.

00:22:55.000 And some of these guys do it for like 20, 30 days at a time.

00:22:57.000 It's crazy.

00:22:58.000 It's hard for me to, I don't actually like to post.

00:23:03.000 I don't, even if I'm out camping, On a hunt, I actually don't post when I'm doing that just because of those guys.

00:23:11.000 Out of respect for those guys, it's...

00:23:14.000 Who really, really, really do it.

00:23:15.000 I mean, honestly, I understand what they're doing, and I don't...

00:23:21.000 You know, it's no different than, you know, there's people that...

00:23:26.000 Post photos shooting archery when I look back and see how long they've really done it.

00:23:32.000 They build up their persona, but there's also guys...

00:23:37.000 There's guys that have done it twice as long as me, but there's guys like me that have done possibly millions of arrows.

00:23:45.000 So it's hard to see people make pretend to be that.

00:23:51.000 And I feel like I'm that guy.

00:23:52.000 If I post a picture of me out in the backcountry in a bivvy, It's not the same as seeing Adam post a picture in a bivy or Remy or Rinella.

00:24:05.000 We should explain a bivy to people who don't know what it is.

00:24:07.000 It's like a combination tent sleeping bag.

00:24:11.000 Yep.

00:24:12.000 It's literally something you can stuff it in your bag, go out, and you're more or less hunting.

00:24:19.000 Just lay it on the ground.

00:24:20.000 Sleep it on the ground.

00:24:21.000 You got a little bit of cover.

00:24:22.000 Yeah.

00:24:23.000 Sometimes people bring pads.

00:24:24.000 Sometimes the hard, hard, hardcore dudes don't even bring pads.

00:24:28.000 There you go.

00:24:28.000 That guy's shooting at one.

00:24:31.000 Wake up.

00:24:32.000 Wake up and oh, I hear an elk.

00:24:34.000 Wake and bake right there.

00:24:37.000 Breakfast is served.

00:24:39.000 Yeah.

00:24:39.000 Well, that's crazy.

00:24:40.000 He's all got camo on the bivy too.

00:24:42.000 Can you appreciate that though?

00:24:43.000 Oh, yeah.

00:24:44.000 I feel that way.

00:24:45.000 It's not just in the hunting world.

00:24:47.000 It's like that with a lot of things.

00:24:50.000 But you know why?

00:24:51.000 I have trouble posting pictures working out.

00:24:55.000 I know what you mean.

00:24:56.000 I make sure people that are following me and trying to maybe be motivated by what my daily routine is, I like them to see that I'm going and things like that, but to actually post that I'm doing it because I do it to stay healthy.

00:25:13.000 It's not my life.

00:25:15.000 And archery is my life, so that's why sometimes it gets hard for me when people are pretending to do that.

00:25:22.000 And I guess I don't have a problem with people doing it, but...

00:25:26.000 Well, you want them to do it, but even be enthusiastic about it, but I know what you're saying.

00:25:31.000 Yeah.

00:25:32.000 I'm trying to show respect for the people that are literally putting in the grind for those specific things, the same as what I have done with my life for archery.

00:25:43.000 Right.

00:25:44.000 I know what you're saying.

00:25:44.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:25:45.000 I know exactly what you're saying.

00:25:46.000 It's like, I don't know, I have a different attitude about that with stand-up comedy.

00:25:52.000 Because I really, really like when new people get into stand-up comedy.

00:25:55.000 That's contrary to how a lot of professionals feel.

00:25:58.000 Like, I was talking to a friend of mine the other day.

00:26:00.000 She's very funny.

00:26:01.000 And she was telling me that her uncle was thinking about getting into comedy.

00:26:05.000 And she was like, oh. 0.58

00:26:06.000 Like, oh, God, no.

00:26:09.000 You know, but when people ask me, like, hey, man, I'm thinking about doing comedy.

00:26:13.000 I'm like, you could do it.

00:26:14.000 Anybody could do it.

00:26:15.000 Just figure it out.

00:26:16.000 It's like everything else.

00:26:17.000 It's like jujitsu or...

00:26:22.000 Martial arts.

00:26:23.000 Fill in the blank.

00:26:24.000 It's anything else.

00:26:25.000 It's like music.

00:26:26.000 You learn the chords.

00:26:27.000 You figure out how to play.

00:26:28.000 You can do it.

00:26:29.000 You might not be able to do it, but that might be on you. 0.97

00:26:32.000 I think if you're a rational person and you like comedy and people laugh at you like you say funny shit sometimes, you could be a stand-up. 0.95

00:26:42.000 Will you? 0.97

00:26:43.000 Will you do it?

00:26:44.000 I don't know.

00:26:45.000 People think it's a lot easier than it is.

00:26:47.000 They don't really know.

00:26:48.000 They don't see.

00:26:51.000 There's no way you could.

00:26:52.000 I mean, you think about all the hours, all the time, all the different sets.

00:26:56.000 But I like it when people get into it.

00:26:58.000 So if some new kid has only been doing comedy for three weeks, throws a bunch of pictures on his Instagram page about going to an open mic night, I'm happy.

00:27:05.000 Like, go get it, kid.

00:27:07.000 Well, I mean, especially when it comes to art form, there's kind of a line there.

00:27:11.000 Because when it comes to competition, I'm very, very...

00:27:16.000 Active in getting people involved with trying to compete, because I always felt like, even as a coach, when I helped people that were maybe not up to the rank that I was, I felt like once I felt the pressure of them pushing on my heels,

00:27:32.000 it always elevated my game.

00:27:34.000 Oh, for sure, yeah.

00:27:36.000 I've got friends that are within different fields that I'm in, and they actually have came to me and said, hey, we want to show you exactly how we're doing this.

00:27:48.000 And in a way, I'm a competitor because I'm in the outdoor business.

00:27:54.000 But there's been a few times where some of my friends have said, the reason we're telling you exactly how we do it is because we know that you're going to do it different, but maybe a little bit better.

00:28:05.000 And some of them have said, we're stale right now.

00:28:07.000 We know we're stale.

00:28:08.000 We need to push and we need someone to like...

00:28:13.000 Push past us so that our competitive drive will push through.

00:28:17.000 Well, you know what?

00:28:18.000 You're in the outdoor business, but I'm going to steal a page from my friend Sturgill's book.

00:28:23.000 Not a real book, but what he said the other day.

00:28:26.000 He goes, I'm not really in the music business.

00:28:28.000 I'm in the Sturgill Simpson business. 0.99

00:28:30.000 And I was like, damn! 0.99

00:28:32.000 That's right! 0.99

00:28:33.000 He's right!

00:28:34.000 Because I'm not in show business.

00:28:36.000 I'm in the Joe Rogan business.

00:28:38.000 100%.

00:28:39.000 I'm in show business in terms of like...

00:28:42.000 I guess I work for the UFC. That's show business.

00:28:45.000 I show up at the Comedy Store.

00:28:47.000 That's show business.

00:28:47.000 But that's my gym.

00:28:49.000 That's where I'm practicing to be in the Joe Rogan business.

00:28:52.000 And you're in the John Dudley business, you know?

00:28:54.000 I mean, what I was saying before, I wanted to let you...

00:28:59.000 Continue your thought, but what I wanted to say was, you feel that way because you're a legit guy.

00:29:05.000 Because what you've done, a lot of people don't realize, there's a lot of people in the archery world, and there's a lot of people in the bow hunting world that talk about bow hunting, and they're really into archery.

00:29:15.000 But your background as a competitive archer is just insane.

00:29:21.000 Most people don't even know.

00:29:22.000 You really don't.

00:29:24.000 We did it all over the world.

00:29:25.000 I mean, you competed internationally.

00:29:27.000 You flew millions of miles.

00:29:29.000 I mean, you did the whole deal.

00:29:30.000 And it's something that you, because of the fact that you know you put so much effort and so much hard work into it, and you're solidified as completely 100% legit, You're very sensitive to things that you're not legit in.

00:29:45.000 So that's why you're a very authentic person.

00:29:48.000 Like, when you're thinking about, like, all the running.

00:29:50.000 Like, when I post pictures of running, I often think, like, yeah, I'm running, but I don't even have, like, a real job. 0.99

00:29:56.000 Cam Haynes is out there running 25 miles a day, that fucking crazy asshole, and he's one of my best friends. 0.98

00:30:01.000 It's like, I can't really think that I'm really running. 1.00

00:30:05.000 I mean, I know I'm doing it, but it's bitch-ass running. 1.00

00:30:08.000 I didn't want to use that example, but that is the perfect example because I don't post pictures of me. 0.97

00:30:15.000 Yesterday I actually did Arm Day.

00:30:17.000 I'm not like Arm Day all the time, but yesterday was...

00:30:22.000 Let me have some of that alpha brain. 0.97

00:30:24.000 Yesterday was a legitimate Arm Day, and I thought, Cam's already posted Arm Day, and he does it every day, so...

00:30:33.000 Yeah, I don't know how he doesn't get tendonitis.

00:30:37.000 No, because I'm going to get over this, dude.

00:30:39.000 I don't know why doesn't he have tendonitis in his legs?

00:30:42.000 That's true.

00:30:42.000 He runs it.

00:30:43.000 He's...

00:30:44.000 You and I talked about...

00:30:46.000 I've shot a right-handed bow my entire—well, I shouldn't say my entire life.

00:30:50.000 When I hurt my shoulder, I had to shoot a left-handed bow.

00:30:53.000 But for the most part, I've shot a right-handed bow my whole life.

00:30:58.000 So my left—I mean, my left pec is bigger than my right.

00:31:03.000 My left delt.

00:31:04.000 Yeah, my left tricep.

00:31:06.000 And then on my right side, my right trap, the way my whole right side sits, and my bicep.

00:31:13.000 Or also from pulling a bow my entire life.

00:31:17.000 And you and I talked about, you know, if you really wanted to balance yourself and stay symmetrical, you almost need to shoot left-handed as much as you shoot right-handed.

00:31:26.000 Yeah.

00:31:26.000 Well, that's the key with martial arts.

00:31:28.000 But in a way, I mean, that is what Cam's doing.

00:31:31.000 He's running, right?

00:31:33.000 It's all lower body.

00:31:34.000 And then he's literally lifting weights.

00:31:37.000 Upper body every day, which is a balance.

00:31:41.000 I mean, people are definitely going to say, well, you can't train upper body every day, but he trains lower body every day, so is it?

00:31:49.000 I've thought that many times.

00:31:50.000 Well, he's doing low weight, high reps.

00:31:53.000 Not always so low either, by the way. 0.99

00:31:55.000 That guy's strong as fuck. 0.99

00:31:56.000 He'd be kind of stunned at how strong he is. 0.99

00:31:59.000 He came over here, and he picked up my 125-pound dumbbells, and he was doing presses.

00:32:04.000 So he's pressing 250 with dumbbells. 0.96

00:32:07.000 You know, and he's I mean, he's a crazy guy.

00:32:12.000 Like, I don't know anybody like him.

00:32:13.000 But he's doing low-weight, high-rep running.

00:32:17.000 He's doing that, but I'm saying he also lifts 250 with dumbbells, and he only weighs like 175 pounds. 0.99

00:32:23.000 I mean, it's pretty crazy shit. 0.86

00:32:25.000 I lift 175, and I'm 225. He's a tank. 0.99

00:32:29.000 He's a madman. 0.99

00:32:31.000 I've met a lot of people that have a lot of drive, but he has a very unusual drive. 0.98

00:32:35.000 It's real weird.

00:32:36.000 Have you ever done the math on...

00:32:39.000 Sometimes you shoot, most of the time you shoot 100 arrows, but I know there's been times where you and I have shot where you've shot, where I know I've shot over 100 arrows and you've shot double that.

00:32:51.000 Because normally when I'm about saying I feel like I had a good practice, you're like, yeah man, I feel really warmed up right now.

00:32:58.000 You know where that comes from?

00:32:59.000 It comes from playing pool.

00:33:01.000 When you play pool, this is real.

00:33:04.000 High level, competitive pool, and I was never high level.

00:33:06.000 But when I got to be as good as I got, I was always what you would call a B player.

00:33:12.000 It takes a lot to become a B player, but I was always a B player.

00:33:16.000 There's an A player, and an A player borders pro, and then there's pro, which is stratospheric.

00:33:24.000 Earl Strickland, Efren Reyes, best of the best, top of the food chain.

00:33:28.000 There's just a different level.

00:33:30.000 When you play pool, as you get better and better, one of the things that you develop is this feel.

00:33:39.000 And the feel really kicks in with me about eight hours in.

00:33:42.000 So I would be practicing.

00:33:43.000 I'm not joking.

00:33:45.000 Eight hours in?

00:33:47.000 Dude, I had a full-on sickness.

00:33:49.000 Go ahead, pull that. 0.92

00:33:50.000 I know you're trying to do it off the mic. 0.99

00:33:51.000 How addictive are these goddamn Onnit protein bites? 1.00

00:33:55.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:33:56.000 I want stock in these right there. 1.00

00:34:00.000 I'm like a junkie on these freaking things. 0.96

00:34:02.000 They're so good. 0.88

00:34:02.000 I ate four of those this morning, and I told myself I was only going to eat one. 0.88

00:34:05.000 I was just doing some shit around the house before I made breakfast, and my fasted window was up. 0.90

00:34:11.000 And so I was like, I can eat now. 0.95

00:34:13.000 I was like, I'll just have one of these things.

00:34:14.000 I ate one, I'm like, I'm definitely having two.

00:34:15.000 And then I ate two, because there's two in a package. 0.99

00:34:17.000 And then I said, fuck that, I'm opening another package. 0.99

00:34:19.000 I ate four of them. 0.99

00:34:20.000 So I ate, what is it, seven grams each?

00:34:23.000 So there's 28 grams of protein I ate inside of...

00:34:26.000 Five minutes.

00:34:27.000 These are so good.

00:34:29.000 Prepare from some ruthless farts.

00:34:30.000 I made a post the other day.

00:34:31.000 I said, for anyone out there, don't do it.

00:34:35.000 Because if you do it, whatever these are, you're going to go from like, this is the new Onnit.

00:34:42.000 These are the protein bites, coconut cashew and dark chocolate.

00:34:46.000 Actually, I didn't have these.

00:34:50.000 Andy Stumpf had these first, and he gave me these out of his backpack.

00:34:56.000 Where were we?

00:34:56.000 Oh, in Oklahoma.

00:34:58.000 We had done quite a bit of a ride on the bikes for the day, and I'm like, I am starving to death right now.

00:35:06.000 And he pulled these out of his backpack, and I just said, dude, how many of those did you bring?

00:35:12.000 And he's like, I don't know why, and I'm like, those are going to be gone.

00:35:16.000 These are dynamite.

00:35:17.000 My problem is...

00:35:19.000 In the morning, I'm always...

00:35:20.000 I do like to fast in the morning before my workouts.

00:35:25.000 What's the window you give yourself?

00:35:26.000 I normally don't eat until about 10.30 or 11 in the morning.

00:35:30.000 And what time do you eat at night before you go to bed?

00:35:32.000 7. Oh, that's good.

00:35:34.000 That's a good window.

00:35:34.000 Yeah.

00:35:35.000 And honestly, I... I'm like starving, but I'm not ready to cook yet.

00:35:40.000 Or normally for my breakfast, I'll normally eat half an avocado to a full avocado with anywhere from like four to six eggs.

00:35:47.000 And if I have any meat left over from the night before, I'll slice that and have it with.

00:35:53.000 But these things on the way to the gym, if I just feel like I don't have anything in the tank, these have been awesome.

00:35:59.000 Yeah.

00:36:00.000 They're very low glycemic index, low sugar, and even the protein is not ridiculous.

00:36:05.000 And when it's seven grams, is that per bite or is that for the whole bar? 0.99

00:36:09.000 Read that shit. 1.00

00:36:10.000 According to most freaking serving samples. 1.00

00:36:15.000 Dude, I was reading something. 0.96

00:36:16.000 Oh my god, it says one bite.

00:36:18.000 Yeah, one bite is seven grams.

00:36:19.000 Wait, servings per container too.

00:36:21.000 Yeah.

00:36:21.000 This is supposed to be one bite.

00:36:23.000 Well, the bite is like the name for it.

00:36:26.000 It's not supposed to be like, how are you going to fit that whole thing in your mouth?

00:36:29.000 To me, that's a bite.

00:36:30.000 Well, they're called protein bites.

00:36:32.000 Why wouldn't it be one square?

00:36:33.000 Because you already bit out of it.

00:36:35.000 Like, you bit out of it again.

00:36:36.000 That's two bites. 0.98

00:36:36.000 That's ridiculous. 0.98

00:36:37.000 It can't be one bite. 0.99

00:36:39.000 I mean, you could do it if you had to.

00:36:41.000 If I wasn't on a podcast, I would have done that like nothing.

00:36:44.000 People get real mad, by the way.

00:36:45.000 They're gonna get mad at you for chewing on the mic. 0.88

00:36:47.000 Can't be more annoying than Mel Gibson's frickin' pen. 0.97

00:36:50.000 I almost shot myself in the face for that frickin' thing. 0.94

00:36:54.000 I couldn't say anything to him! 0.95

00:36:56.000 He's sitting over here.

00:36:59.000 Dude, Mel Gibson is a nice guy.

00:37:01.000 He's a nice guy.

00:37:02.000 He was.

00:37:03.000 But he's fried.

00:37:04.000 There's a circuit that just hit an overload, and there's a black area where it used to be connected to the motherboard.

00:37:12.000 Well, you know more than me.

00:37:14.000 Nice guy.

00:37:14.000 What's funny is, you know, one of my followers is the Brad of all Brads.

00:37:19.000 He does all those funny videos.

00:37:20.000 I heard that guy on your podcast.

00:37:21.000 That was a great podcast, by the way.

00:37:23.000 He made that yesterday, which is kind of hilarious.

00:37:26.000 John Dudley death dart.

00:37:28.000 Your face over Mel Gibson.

00:37:30.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:37:32.000 Yeah, it was funny.

00:37:34.000 But yeah, whatever that pen was, my God.

00:37:36.000 People can't see that, can they?

00:37:37.000 That was terrible.

00:37:38.000 Yeah, well, you know what it was?

00:37:40.000 I just don't think he could just sit and chill.

00:37:42.000 And when Dr. Neil Reardon was discussing all this really heavy-duty scientific stuff in regards to stem cell research and all the different...

00:37:50.000 I mean, he's had...

00:37:51.000 I mean, one of the reasons why he came on, he wanted to come on the podcast.

00:37:54.000 And people are like, why didn't you ask him about his wife?

00:37:57.000 Why didn't you ask him about the...

00:37:58.000 That's not what he was here for.

00:38:00.000 I'm going to be respectful to the guy.

00:38:02.000 I'm a fan of Mel Gibson.

00:38:03.000 He's a nice guy.

00:38:04.000 What he asked is, he said, can I come on the podcast and talk about the stem cell research they're doing in Panama and the treatments that they gave to my dad at 92 years of age.

00:38:14.000 Now he's thriving at almost 100. It was a great podcast.

00:38:17.000 And you know I'm a believer in stem cell because you actually introduced me to Dr. Roddy McGee in Las Vegas.

00:38:27.000 I mean, potentially you saved my archery career.

00:38:30.000 Well, it certainly potentially saved you from surgery.

00:38:33.000 Well, and surgeries are freaking hit or miss, right?

00:38:37.000 So that's what I'm saying.

00:38:39.000 I was lucky with my shoulder surgery that I got out of there good.

00:38:43.000 I know a lot of guys that are into their third one for the same type of thing, but literally I got...

00:38:51.000 I took three injections the first time and went back for a second round because I think one of my tears didn't take.

00:38:59.000 And literally, I completely avoided surgery because of Dr. McGee.

00:39:04.000 And we should talk about this because I don't know the exact specifics of what it was called, what the original treatment was called, but the original treatment that you and I both got is no longer...

00:39:13.000 We were calling it Baby Dust this past weekend.

00:39:15.000 But it's not available anymore.

00:39:17.000 It's because they're trying to make it legal, but it has to go through a series of – there's a whole process that it has to get it passed because they've declared it a drug.

00:39:32.000 Because you take the, it's something about umbilical cord stem cells, you take them and convert them, and then that somehow or another, during the process they believe it's become a drug.

00:39:42.000 Whatever that drug is, I had a full length tear of my rotator cuff.

00:39:47.000 Now this is from an MRI. Full length tear of my rotator cuff.

00:39:50.000 It was painful, it was a real problem.

00:39:53.000 Dr. Roddy McGee in Las Vegas, Nevada shot whatever that baby dust is in there.

00:39:59.000 And the most recent MRI that I got, which is over a year from his original treatment, but I knew that it felt a lot better, but I just haven't got it checked.

00:40:08.000 It's gone!

00:40:09.000 Funny enough, I was with you both times.

00:40:12.000 Right.

00:40:12.000 The first time, which, I mean, I didn't say anything about, but you had been struggling to shoot a lot because It's wear and tear.

00:40:23.000 I mean, the bottom line is it's wear and tear over life, especially with you and I. We do a lot of active stuff.

00:40:31.000 For you to go back, and you and I went in together last week, and when he said, he looked at you with his confused face and said, yeah, hey, that new MRI, that tear is healed.

00:40:44.000 That's freaking massive.

00:40:45.000 It's massive.

00:40:46.000 That's a tear that would have normally absolutely required surgery, or I could have just been in pain with an unstable shoulder.

00:40:53.000 One of the things that I'm realizing is that over the years of essentially being engulfed in martial arts most of my adult life, and even into my teenage years, like at 15, I became a fanatic.

00:41:07.000 From then on, martial arts has always been a part of my life. 0.97

00:41:10.000 I've done some ruthless shit with my joints. 0.85

00:41:13.000 Both of my knees have been reconstructed. 0.98

00:41:15.000 I've had some real problems with my neck in the past.

00:41:17.000 Both of my shoulders have caused problems.

00:41:19.000 It's just... 0.99

00:41:21.000 Explosive, crazy shit. 0.99

00:41:23.000 Your arms are getting yanked in weird directions. 1.00

00:41:26.000 Bigfoot, windmills.

00:41:27.000 That stuff.

00:41:28.000 That's the easiest stuff.

00:41:29.000 That's probably what saved me.

00:41:30.000 All that Bigfoot windmills.

00:41:32.000 I really think that saved me because that's shoulder stability.

00:41:35.000 Because that's controlled.

00:41:36.000 All that stuff that I'm doing, that's all strengthening all these muscles around it.

00:41:40.000 And that doesn't bother me.

00:41:42.000 That doesn't give me any pain.

00:41:43.000 What would give me pain is like off-angle punches, like you land on someone's elbow in a weird way and you feel something go.

00:41:51.000 I hurt right now even thinking about that.

00:41:53.000 Yeah, or getting caught in something like Kimura and not tapping. 0.99

00:41:56.000 I've done that a bunch of times, like a shithead. 1.00

00:42:00.000 You're a meathead. 1.00

00:42:01.000 You don't want to tap. 0.85

00:42:02.000 You've got to tap.

00:42:04.000 There's got to be a way to get out of this without tapping.

00:42:06.000 And then you get out, but then you can't do chin-ups for like three months.

00:42:09.000 That's happened... 0.69

00:42:11.000 30 times in my life, like no joke, like where I didn't tap and then I was fucked up for a few months and I would tape everything up and keep rolling. 0.85

00:42:19.000 Well, you hooked me up with Damien in Des Moines for 10th Planet and I really wanted to do jujitsu classes with him, but I'm so afraid to do it in a class because for me it's my arms are my career.

00:42:36.000 Right, right.

00:42:37.000 And I mean it would literally be like Turning a light switch off in your room.

00:42:41.000 My friend Max Eberle, he's a professional pool player, he said the same thing. 0.87

00:42:45.000 He was really interested in trying jiu-jitsu, but he was so scared of getting locked in an arm bar and fucking his elbow up or his shoulder up, and then he wouldn't be able to play.

00:42:55.000 It's a real legitimate concern.

00:42:58.000 Two days ago, I don't even know if I told you this, but Andy texted me.

00:43:03.000 Andy Stumpf?

00:43:04.000 Yeah, he put me in a group text, and...

00:43:06.000 Need it closer?

00:43:08.000 There you go.

00:43:09.000 And Jocko reached out.

00:43:11.000 We were in a group text, and Jocko wants a bow and wants lessons.

00:43:15.000 Of course he does.

00:43:16.000 Of course he does. 1.00

00:43:18.000 He's going to have a fucking knife in his teeth, what, full draw? 0.99

00:43:21.000 Yeah, and he's like, just make something he won't break in half, because he's like, he will break it. 0.99

00:43:26.000 Yeah. 0.87

00:43:28.000 And I thought, oh shit, if I've got to have Jocko over, I know we're going to end up working out. 0.96

00:43:34.000 Because if he's at my house more than two days, I'm not going to skip two days of working out. 0.99

00:43:38.000 So I thought I better hit the freaking squat rack. 0.84

00:43:40.000 Because I'm more of a bike guy. 0.64

00:43:42.000 Most of my leg workouts come from...

00:43:45.000 Well, they come from kettlebells or they come from biking, because I like to bike or ruck.

00:43:51.000 Explain ruck to people.

00:43:53.000 Rucking is where you just have a full-weighted backpack on, essentially, and you're just power walking.

00:44:01.000 You're almost going for an outdoor walk.

00:44:05.000 And the outdoorsman, which you actually sent to me, thank you, because I kept telling you I want to do...

00:44:14.000 I want to pretend like I'm packing out elk orders to prepare for it.

00:44:21.000 And you said, dude, you've got to check out this pack.

00:44:23.000 Yeah, it's called Atlas Trainer, and it's available at outdoorsmans.com.

00:44:27.000 Not a sponsor, just nice people that make good stuff.

00:44:30.000 They specialize in optics, really.

00:44:33.000 Most of their business is in selling high-end binoculars to hunters.

00:44:37.000 I didn't even know that.

00:44:38.000 Yeah, they're the optics authority.

00:44:41.000 They're amazing with optics.

00:44:42.000 They do a lot of...

00:44:43.000 You ever listen to the J. Scott Outdoors podcast?

00:44:46.000 Not much.

00:44:47.000 J. Scott's got a really good podcast, super specific to hunting.

00:44:50.000 Anybody... 0.99

00:44:51.000 I mean, it's not like this podcast, where it's like, we'll talk about all kinds of shit, and how many dudes have little rubber muscle men up their ass. 0.99

00:44:59.000 J. Scott's not talking about any of that. 0.97

00:45:01.000 But what he's had, Cody Nelson, who's one of the owners of Outdoorsman's, and they go into like... 0.92

00:45:07.000 Edge-to-edge clarity, high-end details of Swarovski, Zeiss, Vortex, like, all these different binos, and they talk about, you know, all the different aspects of, like, what's the best shit to buy, what's the best shit for this price point,

00:45:23.000 for that price point, and they get, like, super geeky and in-depth with it, but there's no better resource than outdoorsms.com. 0.55

00:45:31.000 Like, they have everything.

00:45:32.000 They have all the high-end stuff, they have really good deals, but they also have This Atlas trainer, which is because their whole thing is Western hunting. 0.70

00:45:39.000 And see, I think most people that don't know what hunting is, or they're not in the world, which is me prior to 2012, they think of hunting as fucking Elmer Fudd, some dude with an orange vest on, shooting some poor innocent animal.

00:45:54.000 What Western hunting is, and this is where it gets really weird, it's fitness with mental strength, discipline, and then hunting.

00:46:04.000 There's so much involved in it.

00:46:06.000 You're dealing with mountains, so you have mountaineering, hiking.

00:46:09.000 It's a Tough Mudder with a weapon.

00:46:12.000 It is.

00:46:13.000 That's what it is.

00:46:14.000 It's crazy.

00:46:14.000 People don't appreciate that.

00:46:16.000 I'm trying to get them to.

00:46:17.000 I'm trying to get them to because I've become more absorbed.

00:46:19.000 And you are. 0.99

00:46:21.000 Like this backpack shit that we're talking about, like what Remy does on a regular basis. 0.99

00:46:25.000 Aaron Snyder. 0.99

00:46:26.000 Aaron Snyder, who does an amazing podcast called KafaruCast.

00:46:31.000 Kafaru is a real high-end backpack company.

00:46:35.000 They make like real rugged backpacks specifically designed for hunting and for military and tactical and stuff like that.

00:46:41.000 But Aaron Snyder, one of the guys who runs it, is a serious hunter.

00:46:45.000 And he does those crazy 30-day trips like out in the woods, just living off your Your back.

00:46:52.000 Buds.

00:46:52.000 That's woods and bush put together.

00:46:54.000 Bush and woods.

00:46:55.000 I'm hanging around with Adam Greentree too much.

00:46:56.000 They call it the bush.

00:46:58.000 I think we've officially killed this angel's wings. 0.97

00:47:02.000 You have too much body. 0.98

00:47:03.000 What?

00:47:04.000 There's too much mass in you.

00:47:05.000 You can go through too much alcohol.

00:47:07.000 I have to think about it.

00:47:08.000 You probably weigh like 40 pounds heavier than me, so I have to put it in consideration.

00:47:13.000 Nope.

00:47:13.000 How much to take in.

00:47:14.000 No, you don't.

00:47:17.000 Great podcasts are made by...

00:47:20.000 Friends and alcohol?

00:47:21.000 Yep.

00:47:22.000 Well, that one that we did in Lanai, when it was all of us, you and me and Ben O'Brien and Sam Soholt and Shane Dorian.

00:47:29.000 I'll go grab it.

00:47:30.000 You just keep us occupied.

00:47:32.000 Yep, Remy, Shane Dorian, Ben, O'Brien, my wife, Shazzy Fresh, and my boy was there.

00:47:43.000 I think I got everybody.

00:47:45.000 I think you got everybody.

00:47:47.000 We said Remy, right?

00:47:48.000 Yeah.

00:47:49.000 Yes, Shane.

00:47:49.000 So you want a general one's Jack, or you want to try this McAllen?

00:47:54.000 Brian?

00:47:54.000 Little Brian McCallum?

00:47:55.000 Or do you want to try some local stuff?

00:47:57.000 We got some stuff that I just got from Bakersfield.

00:47:58.000 Bring the local stuff over here. 0.98

00:47:59.000 I'll take this sucker over. 0.95

00:48:02.000 Yeah, I made a note here that was B, and I have no idea what that topic was. 0.92

00:48:06.000 We've shifted gears so many times.

00:48:08.000 This is Bowers.

00:48:12.000 Bowers Whiskey, and this is from Bakersfield.

00:48:14.000 I was just in Bakersfield.

00:48:16.000 Not a sponsor, by the way.

00:48:18.000 Not a sponsor, but nice folks that left me a nice bottle of whiskey.

00:48:23.000 Beautiful bottle.

00:48:24.000 You know, I didn't know this, but that area, Bakersfield, that whole area, that's where There Will Be Blood was all about.

00:48:34.000 You ever see that movie with Daniel Day-Bluis?

00:48:36.000 I love that movie.

00:48:37.000 I didn't know that Bakersfield is...

00:48:38.000 He was amazing in that movie.

00:48:40.000 Beyond, right?

00:48:41.000 I actually really legitimately like that movie.

00:48:45.000 Oh, I loved it.

00:48:45.000 We're out of ice, but that's all right.

00:48:47.000 We can get some more ice.

00:48:48.000 Good grief.

00:48:50.000 Get Jeff to hook us up with some ice.

00:48:52.000 That was at least 20 ounces.

00:48:55.000 Yeah, you could die.

00:48:56.000 We're not driving. 0.99

00:48:57.000 We're going to be shooting arrows.

00:49:00.000 Luckily, there's no one here.

00:49:01.000 I know.

00:49:02.000 And we're surrounded by concrete.

00:49:04.000 Awesome concrete, by the way.

00:49:06.000 How great is that setup?

00:49:07.000 By the way, I have to thank you for hooking me up with those blocked targets.

00:49:11.000 Awesome.

00:49:12.000 Only my arms are long enough to reach across this table.

00:49:16.000 Anyone else, you would have came up way short. 0.98

00:49:19.000 Dick against the wall.

00:49:21.000 But these guys that do this, this hardcore backcountry hunting, it's sort of like what we were talking about before. 0.83

00:49:30.000 There's levels to this.

00:49:31.000 And the way you work out is to stay healthy and to be fit in comparison to some guy like David Goggins, some maniac, some Cam Haynes-type maniac, right?

00:49:41.000 But there's levels to everything.

00:49:45.000 Some guys just want to go out and try to hunt for their meat and go out and have a weekend hunt in Wisconsin or Colorado.

00:49:54.000 Some guys want to put orange on for seven days and they're totally content with that.

00:49:59.000 And then there's guys who take it as far as you can go.

00:50:04.000 Weirdos.

00:50:05.000 Weirdos.

00:50:06.000 And then the weirdos amongst the weirdos, right?

00:50:09.000 Guys like Adam, Adam Greentrew, lives in the mountain and Facebooks the whole thing and Instagram lives the whole thing.

00:50:16.000 Yep.

00:50:17.000 Yeah.

00:50:18.000 It's a thing.

00:50:19.000 It's not what everybody thinks it is.

00:50:20.000 It's a thing.

00:50:21.000 And I think that thing gets clouded up by so much distraction.

00:50:26.000 I think a lot of people don't know what the thing is.

00:50:28.000 So they think of it as being some...

00:50:31.000 Oh, look at that.

00:50:31.000 A little ice.

00:50:32.000 Ooh! 0.96

00:50:33.000 Freaking ice in the JRE. Is that a Yeti ice bucket?

00:50:37.000 I'll be darned. 0.70

00:50:38.000 Is it? 0.96

00:50:39.000 No, it's a regular ice bucket.

00:50:40.000 Does Yeti have an ice bucket?

00:50:42.000 Ben, we need an ice bucket.

00:50:44.000 Oh, for everybody who wanted one of these JRE Yeti tumblers, they're gone.

00:50:48.000 They were gone in 20 minutes.

00:50:50.000 I underestimated.

00:50:51.000 Sounds like my releases.

00:50:53.000 Yeah, I only ordered 300 of them.

00:50:55.000 But we're ordering 2,000 now. 0.99

00:50:58.000 So I fucked up. 0.97

00:50:59.000 Sorry. 0.98

00:51:00.000 We'll get them as quick as we can.

00:51:02.000 Hopefully Yeti.

00:51:03.000 If you just find Ben O'Brien on Instagram and yell at him.

00:51:09.000 Don't do that.

00:51:10.000 Poor guy.

00:51:11.000 Cheers.

00:51:13.000 Thanks for having me out.

00:51:14.000 My pleasure, brother.

00:51:16.000 We're prepping.

00:51:17.000 People hate that sound.

00:51:19.000 They hate the sound of slurping.

00:51:21.000 They hate the sound of chewing.

00:51:22.000 I get it.

00:51:23.000 You're on the treadmill right now.

00:51:24.000 You're on the treadmill right now.

00:51:25.000 You're thinking about quitting.

00:51:27.000 And you hear someone chewing, slurping. 1.00

00:51:29.000 You're like, fuck this podcast, man. 0.99

00:51:32.000 Well, I got off subject, but what I was talking about, I was going to do some squats. 1.00

00:51:37.000 Right.

00:51:37.000 Just because I felt like...

00:51:38.000 Get ready for Jocko?

00:51:39.000 Yeah.

00:51:40.000 At least need to do 135 once.

00:51:45.000 But remember the other day when I was in Roddy's and he was bending me all around, checking my arm?

00:51:51.000 Mm-hmm.

00:51:52.000 When I hold a squat bar, that is what gives me my pain right now.

00:51:58.000 Do you get massaged often?

00:52:00.000 I normally get it about four times a year.

00:52:03.000 I have a guy that I go all the way to Oklahoma for.

00:52:07.000 It's about 600 miles, but his name is Lester Phillips.

00:52:10.000 Do you fly or do you drive?

00:52:13.000 I drive down there.

00:52:14.000 Jesus.

00:52:14.000 Yeah, his name's Lester Phillips.

00:52:16.000 Drive 12 hours to get a massage?

00:52:18.000 Yep.

00:52:19.000 He's actually at a fitness building called Body Masters, but he is amazing at breaking apart scar tissue and literally getting into areas that most people don't take the time for.

00:52:34.000 And I normally go for two hours just for one joint.

00:52:39.000 Jesus Christ!

00:52:41.000 Are you sober this whole time?

00:52:43.000 Yeah.

00:52:44.000 But if you're doing something...

00:52:45.000 Well, it's arguable.

00:52:46.000 But it depends.

00:52:48.000 If you're doing something that's very repetitive in your sport, then those particular areas build...

00:52:54.000 You know, it's just like...

00:52:56.000 A lot of times he tells me that my bicep and my forearm connector on my right side are a lot like what a fighter's are that's a right-hand prominent where they're having impact.

00:53:08.000 And the same with my left because as you're shooting, it's just constant hyperextension.

00:53:14.000 So you build that scarring in there, and when the scarring isn't, you know, it's restricting the muscle from moving properly.

00:53:22.000 You know, he talks to me like...

00:53:24.000 He said if you have long hair and you get out of the shower, the fibers aren't going the same direction.

00:53:31.000 You have to get all the knots and stuff out of there.

00:53:35.000 So essentially he's trying to break up those areas where the muscles aren't flowing back and forth smoothly.

00:53:42.000 So even though I don't have necessarily a tear, I feel soreness at times.

00:53:49.000 I would say maybe even a chronic soreness, but if I go and actually have that broken apart, it's extremely painful to do, but my performance afterwards is just night and day different.

00:54:01.000 Yeah, I think you should do it a lot.

00:54:03.000 I really do.

00:54:05.000 It's hard to find a good person, though.

00:54:07.000 That's the problem.

00:54:08.000 That's why I go so far, you know, is to find someone that really, really knows what they're doing.

00:54:13.000 Do you have a Thai massage place in your town?

00:54:16.000 No.

00:54:17.000 I don't know.

00:54:18.000 I mean...

00:54:19.000 Iowa.

00:54:19.000 Yeah.

00:54:19.000 No ties.

00:54:20.000 Make it up to Iowa.

00:54:21.000 Yeah.

00:54:22.000 There's a ton of them around here, man.

00:54:24.000 And they're, you know, not very expensive, but amazing.

00:54:27.000 Like, I have this lady that walks on my back. 1.00

00:54:29.000 She's probably about 60 years old. 0.99

00:54:30.000 She walks about on my back, grabs my wrists, and pulls them up, and pops my back. 1.00

00:54:35.000 I was like, yikes!

00:54:37.000 Yikes! 1.00

00:54:39.000 She stretches you out, man.

00:54:41.000 It's like part of the thing is massage, and then once she gets in that tissue and loosens it up, then she starts pulling on your arms and stretching you out. 0.97

00:54:50.000 Thai massage is legit.

00:54:51.000 It's really good.

00:54:52.000 One of your shoulders jacked up.

00:54:53.000 No, that's what helps it. 1.00

00:54:54.000 Some lady trying to rip your arms out of the socket would be fucked without her. 1.00

00:54:59.000 It'd be fucked without a lot of different things, but that's one of them. 1.00

00:55:03.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:55:03.000 But this stem cell research that they're involved in right now, what they're doing right now in Panama, because it's not legal in the United States. 0.96

00:55:11.000 That was a good podcast.

00:55:13.000 Yeah, it was amazing, right?

00:55:14.000 That guy, Dr. Neil Reard.

00:55:16.000 He's very good.

00:55:17.000 He's amazing.

00:55:17.000 They just passed a significant hurdle in Texas.

00:55:20.000 So they're real close to being able to do that in Texas.

00:55:23.000 And it might happen as soon as the fall.

00:55:27.000 So somewhere around archery season, you might be able to go to Texas and get all the same stuff that we're going to get in Panama, which you should do.

00:55:37.000 Man, if anybody listens to that podcast or anybody's talking to someone like me who has benefited tremendously from it, and I haven't even gone and done what he's doing, which is complete next level in Panama. 0.90

00:55:49.000 Yeah.

00:55:50.000 But I know TJ Dillashaw, UFC bantamweight champion, he's gone there twice now. 0.97

00:55:54.000 Fucking had massive, massive recovery from it. 0.90

00:55:57.000 It's amazing. 0.99

00:55:58.000 We're in an incredible time when it comes to medical science and technology and innovation.

00:56:06.000 What they're able to do and fix and heal people that have had...

00:56:11.000 Really significant injuries that would have been a giant problem before.

00:56:15.000 I have a friend of mine, she works at the UFC, my friend Heather, she had an Achilles tendon injury.

00:56:20.000 From Roddy?

00:56:21.000 Yes.

00:56:21.000 He did the surgery.

00:56:22.000 Yes.

00:56:23.000 And she's six weeks later walking around without a limp.

00:56:26.000 Dude, she told me that it would be six months where she would be in a cast if it wasn't for this new stuff. 1.00

00:56:34.000 That's crazy!

00:56:35.000 She's walking around without a limp! 1.00

00:56:36.000 Remember when you were in there and I was...

00:56:39.000 Roddy came in and he had told you about the MRI and said, it really looks like everything has grown back together.

00:56:48.000 Yeah.

00:56:48.000 Like it's healed.

00:56:50.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:56:50.000 And I just said, that's some Tron shit right there, dude. 0.99

00:56:54.000 I mean, that's like... 0.99

00:56:56.000 To be able to reconstruct something without having to go under the knife...

00:57:01.000 For me, I went under the knife with my shoulder and I know that the difference in recovery between literally not being able to almost function a part of your body entirely versus them saying,

00:57:16.000 take it easy and work your way back into what you want to do.

00:57:22.000 Those are two, I mean, they're like completely different universes.

00:57:26.000 Right.

00:57:26.000 Being in a situation where you're, you know, one, you have to take painkillers, which that's not cool.

00:57:32.000 Two, having to have someone that you're dependent on, you know, pack pillows under your arm and keep you steady for three days in bed and you can't freaking move around.

00:57:42.000 Then you got this, you know, big wedge under your arm and you're walking around versus...

00:57:47.000 We literally went in, went through the process, get an ultrasound.

00:57:52.000 They find the place to target.

00:57:54.000 You see a syringe literally go in, no different than if you go and get a tetanus shot.

00:58:00.000 You can see it in the ultrasound.

00:58:01.000 You actually watch it go in.

00:58:02.000 It goes in, comes out, and then it's done.

00:58:06.000 And you literally go home and these things just go to work.

00:58:13.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm really, really hopeful for the future.

00:58:16.000 We just went in there this past weekend, Roddy looked at the MRI, and he was stunned at the fact that my rotator cuff had been completely healed.

00:58:24.000 But I still have some little tears in the labrum area, so we shot some right into the joint.

00:58:32.000 But again, they're constantly innovating, so now they're using umbilical cord blood.

00:58:40.000 And apparently they're having massive results with umbilical cord blood.

00:58:44.000 And then they're using your blood and the PRP. That was cool.

00:58:49.000 It's crazy to watch.

00:58:50.000 The machine mixes it all up and then it puts it with the stem cells.

00:58:54.000 And it's like, we're living in the future, man.

00:58:56.000 Because I almost feel like I got gypped.

00:59:00.000 You know what I mean by that?

00:59:01.000 But I don't think you did because it healed you.

00:59:02.000 Yeah.

00:59:02.000 I mean, I had a hard time carrying a jug of milk with my right arm.

00:59:09.000 A lot of people found that hard to believe because, you know, my arms aren't small, I don't think, in average, but I had a tough, tough time carrying a jug of milk in a hammer fist position and then got the MRI,

00:59:24.000 saw a few, you know, actually three areas where I just pretty much abused it and tore it apart.

00:59:32.000 And got those three injections the first time.

00:59:36.000 Two of them took.

00:59:38.000 Actually, Roddy had me back there for a Fox News thing because I sent him a video of me doing 60-pound curls.

00:59:47.000 Three weeks after the first stem cell injection, and I wasn't even able to carry a jug of milk.

00:59:55.000 I was doing 60-pound curls for sets.

00:59:57.000 No pain.

00:59:58.000 No pain.

00:59:59.000 So I went there and did that.

01:00:01.000 Well, then it ended up slowly coming back where I felt pain in one area of the three.

01:00:08.000 So I had an injection then.

01:00:11.000 But what I had at that time was what we referred to as baby dust.

01:00:15.000 Yeah.

01:00:17.000 But now, you and my wife Sharon had PRP, which was, you know, really, really cool to see that machine work.

01:00:25.000 PRP mixed with stem cells.

01:00:27.000 That's right.

01:00:28.000 And actually, the very first time I came in, they had us...

01:00:35.000 He asked me to do a light workout after, but then the second time I came back, he had me do a workout before.

01:00:42.000 Yeah, he did that with me as well.

01:00:43.000 And then injected it, and then we talked about the benefits of the sauna and what that would do for it.

01:00:50.000 And then now...

01:00:52.000 It's already at a different stage.

01:00:54.000 So, I mean, there's no doubt the progression of this is just like anything.

01:01:00.000 It just gets better and better and better and better.

01:01:02.000 What's interesting about Roddy, too, what's great about Roddy, I should say, rather than interesting, is that Roddy is a student of medical science as well as a practicing physician and surgeon.

01:01:12.000 That's a good point.

01:01:13.000 Yeah, so he's constantly up on all the latest stuff.

01:01:15.000 He's not stagnant in any way, shape, or form.

01:01:18.000 He's constantly up on it.

01:01:19.000 So every time I have a conversation with him, he's like, there's some new research coming out of this place that shows this, and he's just constantly on the ball with it.

01:01:27.000 And so the most latest thing was this weekend.

01:01:30.000 I mean, last time I saw him was just a couple months before.

01:01:33.000 He's definitely on point with his stats.

01:01:35.000 Yes.

01:01:36.000 Oh, what...

01:01:39.000 Yeah, we can't really mention that on the podcast, but I had some speculation as to activities taking place in Las Vegas on a daily basis. 1.00

01:01:50.000 My real big question was, how many times does a gay guy come in another guy's ass and yell out, woo, in Vegas? 0.99

01:02:01.000 How many times is he Ric Flair? 1.00

01:02:03.000 And Roddy was correct.

01:02:04.000 Roddy was like, not every day.

01:02:05.000 And I think you're right.

01:02:07.000 Everybody else was like, all day, every day.

01:02:09.000 I'm like, what are the odds?

01:02:10.000 Jamie just came alive.

01:02:15.000 By the way, this was at a very nice dinner.

01:02:19.000 How good is that steakhouse?

01:02:20.000 It was very good.

01:02:22.000 Shout out to Kraft Steak at the MGM. Kraft Steak was delicious.

01:02:27.000 We were having some of the best that Vegas could offer.

01:02:32.000 Meanwhile, Joe got on some subjects that were probably only...

01:02:41.000 I don't know, legal to talk about in a comedy situation.

01:02:43.000 You can talk about it anywhere now.

01:02:45.000 For now.

01:02:46.000 For like the next couple months.

01:02:48.000 And then they'll make that illegal. 0.97

01:02:49.000 Yeah.

01:02:50.000 Yeah.

01:02:50.000 Vegas is a great place to get meals.

01:02:52.000 It's like one of the best restaurant places in the country.

01:02:55.000 It really is.

01:02:56.000 I want...

01:02:57.000 Shout out to, I want to hook up with Gordon Ramsay.

01:03:00.000 You did some videos about hunting and cooking wild game, but you're missing out, man.

01:03:08.000 You got to do it the right way.

01:03:09.000 What's wrong?

01:03:10.000 The hunting he's missing out on?

01:03:11.000 It was kind of a cheesy rifle hunt with a hog, but I think we can do way better.

01:03:19.000 And one, I think you need to learn bow hunting just because you're missing out if you don't.

01:03:24.000 Here's the problem.

01:03:26.000 Let me speak for Gordon Ramsay real quick because I met him.

01:03:29.000 Okay.

01:03:29.000 I met him briefly and shook his hand.

01:03:30.000 Let's hear this.

01:03:31.000 I think I know him very well.

01:03:32.000 I met him for all 14, 15 seconds.

01:03:35.000 He doesn't have the time, man.

01:03:37.000 The guy's like 18 different TV shows.

01:03:38.000 I was watching him yell at some dude who's cooking somewhere.

01:03:42.000 He was yelling, oddly enough, the guy was cooking elk.

01:03:46.000 And Gordon was complaining about the elk.

01:03:48.000 He was complaining about it being tough and it is inedible.

01:03:51.000 It's a good complaint.

01:03:52.000 And the guy ate it.

01:03:54.000 He's chewing on it.

01:03:55.000 He said it's tender and delicious.

01:03:56.000 I'm more with the guy.

01:03:58.000 I think Gordon got a little...

01:04:00.000 He's doing a TV show, man.

01:04:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:04:03.000 I don't want to be cynical.

01:04:04.000 He's playing a character.

01:04:05.000 I don't want to be cynical.

01:04:06.000 But there is a real...

01:04:07.000 First of all, the guy did step way over the line.

01:04:10.000 He said he was trained by some of the greatest chefs in Europe.

01:04:13.000 And then Gordon Ramsay called him on it.

01:04:15.000 He said, I never said that.

01:04:16.000 And then they had video.

01:04:17.000 They played back. 0.98

01:04:18.000 So the guy's obviously a dildo. 0.98

01:04:20.000 And then on top of that... 0.99

01:04:22.000 Unfortunately, buddy, sometimes in life we're dildo. 0.91

01:04:24.000 I've been dildo. 0.99

01:04:25.000 I've been a dildo. 0.99

01:04:26.000 More than once. 0.99

01:04:27.000 I thought you said I've been dildo. 0.93

01:04:28.000 No, I haven't been dildo. 0.95

01:04:29.000 But I have been one. 0.91

01:04:31.000 Not that way.

01:04:32.000 Not in the actual mechanical sense.

01:04:34.000 Anyway, this guy was trying to explain that he's not a chef, but then there was video footage of him saying that he was a chef.

01:04:42.000 But the bottom line is... 0.98

01:04:44.000 Gordon Ramsay's playing it up and he's like talking about how terrible the food is and shitting on him. 0.99

01:04:50.000 Like that's his show. 0.96

01:04:51.000 His show is about sort of like kitchen nightmares.

01:04:54.000 It's like I show up and your show has to be, your kitchen has to be a nightmare for kitchen nightmares to work.

01:04:59.000 That's the guy.

01:04:59.000 That's the gentleman.

01:05:00.000 We don't need to play this guy.

01:05:01.000 I don't want to shame this young man.

01:05:03.000 Young man.

01:05:04.000 It's not the young man.

01:05:05.000 Shame this guy.

01:05:06.000 His comments are awesome. 0.95

01:05:08.000 But don't you think this is a lot like a guy who doesn't really know archery Talking shit to you like you're Gordon Ramsay and that guy's a guy who like you know I've been finger shooting my whole life I don't need a release You know I don't use a sight because I shoot instinctive and you're like well you're just not gonna be accurate you know I'm accurate I'm accurate and then he shoots and he misses the target and you like see I told you and then but you're a nice guy Gordon Ramsay is a professional asshole and I don't mean that in a bad way but I mean when someone fucks 0.99

01:05:38.000 up that guy comes down on you with the hammer of truth and I love it. 1.00

01:05:42.000 It's brutal to watch.

01:05:44.000 My seven-year-old was so annoyed at me.

01:05:45.000 She's like, why are you still watching this?

01:05:48.000 Because we were in here.

01:05:49.000 You want to hear him cheese someone out.

01:05:50.000 She wanted to roll around on the hoverboards.

01:05:53.000 And I was like, just relax one second.

01:05:54.000 I want to see where this goes.

01:05:56.000 Because the guy was talking about Gordon Ramsay did not know how to cook elk.

01:06:01.000 All right.

01:06:02.000 But then I was watching him cook out.

01:06:03.000 I'm like, I don't think you know how to do it either, buddy.

01:06:06.000 See, that's what I mean.

01:06:07.000 He needs to learn.

01:06:09.000 But here's my argument.

01:06:12.000 You don't have time for Archer either.

01:06:15.000 Yeah, but I'm crazy.

01:06:17.000 Exactly. 0.99

01:06:17.000 I have a real mental problem. 0.99

01:06:19.000 I need Gordon to get crazy. 0.99

01:06:23.000 He's not going to do it.

01:06:25.000 He's not the same guy.

01:06:27.000 I think he is.

01:06:28.000 You've got to let archery find the people that...

01:06:29.000 You know what I think?

01:06:30.000 Archery is like a game of Tetris, right?

01:06:33.000 I don't know.

01:06:33.000 It's all falling in place.

01:06:34.000 You've got to figure out where it falls in place.

01:06:36.000 My wife's English, so Gordon, give it a try. 0.72

01:06:40.000 Basically the same thing.

01:06:41.000 Yep.

01:06:42.000 Right.

01:06:43.000 Yeah.

01:06:44.000 That's her... 1.00

01:06:45.000 I mean, she was completely...

01:06:48.000 She had no... 0.95

01:06:50.000 Literally no perspective to hunting before we met.

01:06:54.000 I mean, imagine Sharon and I met on a plane to France.

01:06:58.000 We met again on a plane back from France.

01:07:01.000 Right.

01:07:02.000 She was from England.

01:07:03.000 I was from the U.S. I just happened to be routing through Liverpool.

01:07:08.000 I'm pretty sure we talked.

01:07:09.000 We might not have talked about it on the podcast, but I know you have.

01:07:12.000 I think we did.

01:07:12.000 Maybe not.

01:07:13.000 It's a great story.

01:07:14.000 Yeah, it is a very good story. 0.91

01:07:16.000 Then you met her, and then you're like, damn, why didn't I get her number?

01:07:17.000 And then you met her again. 0.97

01:07:19.000 Hollywood, we need a movie called Love at First Flight.

01:07:22.000 This is it.

01:07:24.000 You can have Nicholas Cage play an archer.

01:07:28.000 But I'm just going to go out on a limb and say, because she is from England does not mean that they're the same thing.

01:07:35.000 That him and her, just like Artie Lang, is also from America, and he is not the same as me.

01:07:40.000 We are different.

01:07:43.000 He has way more experience with pharmaceutical drugs and heroin, and I have more experience shooting animals with a bow and arrow.

01:07:51.000 And it will always be such.

01:07:53.000 Yeah, do whatever you want to do in this life, you know?

01:07:55.000 I don't think he needs to go out and hunt with a bow and arrow.

01:07:59.000 One thing is it would require a tremendous learning curve.

01:08:03.000 Right?

01:08:03.000 Especially, like, my first experiences were bears over bait, which is a much easier proposition.

01:08:12.000 It's a very controlled situation.

01:08:15.000 But is, I mean, I think controlled situations are important for any beginner.

01:08:19.000 Yes.

01:08:19.000 It doesn't matter.

01:08:20.000 Sure.

01:08:21.000 Well, sparring.

01:08:22.000 When you teach people how to fight, one of the first things I suggest always is they spar an advanced belt.

01:08:29.000 They spar someone who's not going to hurt them.

01:08:31.000 Well, Mark talked about that at dinner.

01:08:33.000 We talked about us sparring.

01:08:34.000 Yes.

01:08:35.000 Right?

01:08:35.000 Yeah.

01:08:36.000 You can read it.

01:08:37.000 Mark and I... We have an alpha brain?

01:08:41.000 Yeah.

01:08:42.000 Mark and I actually...

01:08:43.000 I played a video for him that I was really disturbed about.

01:08:46.000 We actually played it yesterday on the podcast.

01:08:48.000 Did you?

01:08:49.000 With Sturgill?

01:08:50.000 I haven't watched it yet.

01:08:51.000 No, yesterday it wasn't Sturgill.

01:08:52.000 Brendan Schaub and Brian Callen.

01:08:54.000 We talked about... 0.94

01:08:57.000 Heavy sparring that there's guys they're hitting each other as hard as they possibly can and all that is is like an ego exercise you're not you're not getting better you're hurting each other you're fucking each other's brains up and Mark and I were talking about that like how many guys get turned off to sparring because they spar with someone who just beats the shit out of them and In a bad gym rather than spars with someone who teaches you just to get touched. 0.66

01:09:21.000 You just get touched in the face so you know you got hit, you know, and someone who's fast but has control.

01:09:27.000 And then you learn how to operate without the fear and consequences of like a wild gym brawl, which is like really common.

01:09:36.000 A lot of gyms, they have brawls.

01:09:39.000 Where it should be just sparring, but instead, you're really just fighting all the time.

01:09:43.000 You're fighting constantly.

01:09:44.000 Those people always wind up with brain damage.

01:09:47.000 Like, almost always.

01:09:48.000 It's a real, real issue with a lot of low-level gyms or gyms where people haven't really considered the consequences of their actions.

01:10:00.000 Did you...

01:10:01.000 Yeah, that's mine.

01:10:02.000 Did you play that video that you showed when we were at dinner the other time?

01:10:06.000 The guy getting knocked out?

01:10:07.000 Yeah.

01:10:07.000 Is that what it was?

01:10:07.000 Yeah, that's the one.

01:10:08.000 Yeah.

01:10:09.000 Yeah, Mark was like, this would never happen.

01:10:12.000 His gym?

01:10:13.000 Never happened.

01:10:13.000 Mark's amazing.

01:10:14.000 I think it's important.

01:10:16.000 I mean, any type of beginner needs a controlled situation, and you need training wheels.

01:10:23.000 I mean, it's important.

01:10:26.000 And there's that feeling, well, this is what I've been preaching forever, is that feeling of not knowing how to do something and trying to figure it out is crucial as a human being.

01:10:37.000 I think where humans stagnate, that feeling makes people feel weird.

01:10:40.000 They don't like being a loser.

01:10:42.000 They don't like being a beginner. 0.97

01:10:43.000 They don't like it.

01:10:44.000 But I think that feeling is crucial.

01:10:47.000 Because when you get really good at something, and you get stagnant, and you don't worry about it anymore, there's no growth, there's no movement, you know, there's something about that that's very detrimental to the human psyche.

01:11:02.000 It's very detrimental to your growth and your constant self-examination, which a lot of people don't like, but I think is important.

01:11:10.000 This is why I think it's important.

01:11:11.000 I think it's important for peace of mind, because I think it may bring rocky moments Where you don't like what you find and you just feel like, God, can I just be cool with everything?

01:11:23.000 But I think through that path, those rocky moments, you get to understand yourself in a very pure way.

01:11:33.000 Versus...

01:11:34.000 Understanding the projection of who you'd like people to think you are which is what most people exist in most people exist in this world of slippery shoes and shiny fucking cars and Ties and wearing the right things and saying the right things all those things are sort of designed to project an image That's not necessarily you.

01:11:56.000 It's a cheap way of getting people to think greater of you Whereas the only way that people really know who you are is to see you doing something hard.

01:12:07.000 See you doing something difficult.

01:12:09.000 They don't know who you are if you show up and the cameras start flashing, you're on the red carpet, you're in the perfect suit, you hop out of a limo, you've got a gorgeous girl in your arm. 0.86

01:12:18.000 They don't know jack shit about that.

01:12:19.000 It looks amazing. 0.96

01:12:20.000 I'd like to be that guy.

01:12:21.000 Everybody would. 1.00

01:12:22.000 But they don't know a goddamn thing about you. 1.00

01:12:24.000 But if they saw you at mile 59 of a 200 mile race and you're shitting yourself over a cactus, In the middle of the fucking... 1.00

01:12:33.000 In the middle of the mountains like Cam Haynes. 0.99

01:12:36.000 Then they would know who you really are.

01:12:38.000 And I think this is also one of the reasons why a guy like you...

01:12:41.000 You're hesitant to post...

01:12:43.000 That's my litmus test.

01:12:45.000 Yeah.

01:12:45.000 Is hunting.

01:12:46.000 I mean, a hard hunt.

01:12:48.000 If I ever really am at a point where I feel like...

01:12:54.000 Is this going to be a legitimate friend?

01:12:56.000 Or is this going to be someone that I just do business with?

01:13:01.000 Then that's where I test it, is in something tough.

01:13:07.000 Because those people, to me, those people put themselves, you know, you're probably the same.

01:13:17.000 There's maybe six or seven people that I talk to on a daily basis, and then there's a different tier to that.

01:13:25.000 But that is my litmus test.

01:13:27.000 If people can do those things and really prove themselves at the tough, tough, tough times...

01:13:35.000 If they can handle it.

01:13:36.000 Yeah, if they can handle it, those are the people that I want around me.

01:13:39.000 That's the truth.

01:13:40.000 Those people are fuel.

01:13:41.000 Right?

01:13:43.000 Yeah, because when you're ready to be like, should I just take a break right now?

01:13:49.000 And they're still going, you're like, I'm not going to let him beat me.

01:13:52.000 Because he's going to ride me at the end.

01:13:54.000 Have you ever seen Jocko's video?

01:13:56.000 It's just called Good?

01:13:58.000 Uh-uh.

01:13:59.000 You haven't seen it?

01:14:00.000 Uh-uh.

01:14:00.000 Play it, Jamie.

01:14:01.000 Find that.

01:14:02.000 It's one of my favorite videos on the internet.

01:14:05.000 There's a lot of videos on the internet.

01:14:07.000 How crazy is the world that Jocko and I met?

01:14:12.000 We literally passed each other in an airport.

01:14:15.000 Pretty crazy.

01:14:16.000 We both had just enough time to take a selfie and we texted to you.

01:14:21.000 Remember that?

01:14:22.000 Yes.

01:14:23.000 Yeah, it was amazing.

01:14:25.000 We're going to play it because this is one thing I know that Jocko would never flag us off YouTube.

01:14:29.000 One of my...

01:14:31.000 Direct subordinates one of my guys that worked for me he would he would call me up or pull me aside with some major problem some issue that was going on And he'd say boss we got this and that and the other thing and I look at him and I'd say good and Finally one day he was telling me about some issue that he was having some problem and He said I already know what you're gonna say I Said well,

01:14:54.000 what am I gonna say?

01:14:55.000 He said you're gonna say good He said, that's what you always say.

01:15:00.000 When something is wrong and going bad, you always just look at me and say, good.

01:15:07.000 And I said, well, yeah.

01:15:08.000 When things are going bad, there's gonna be some good that's gonna come from it.

01:15:16.000 Didn't get the new high-speed gear we wanted?

01:15:19.000 Good.

01:15:20.000 Didn't get promoted?

01:15:23.000 Good.

01:15:26.000 Oh, mission got canceled?

01:15:28.000 Good.

01:15:29.000 We can focus on another one.

01:15:30.000 Didn't get funded.

01:15:31.000 Didn't get the job you wanted.

01:15:34.000 Got injured.

01:15:35.000 Sprained my ankle.

01:15:36.000 Got tapped out?

01:15:37.000 Good.

01:15:38.000 Got beat?

01:15:39.000 Good.

01:15:41.000 We learned.

01:15:44.000 Unexpected problems?

01:15:46.000 Good.

01:15:47.000 We have the opportunity to figure out a solution.

01:15:52.000 That's it.

01:15:53.000 When things are going bad, Don't get all bummed out.

01:15:57.000 Don't get startled.

01:15:58.000 Don't get frustrated.

01:16:04.000 If you can say the word good, guess what?

01:16:09.000 It means you're still alive.

01:16:12.000 It means you're still breathing.

01:16:14.000 And if you're still breathing, well now, you still got some fight left in you.

01:16:22.000 Come on.

01:16:22.000 So get up, dust off, Reload.

01:16:28.000 Recalibrate.

01:16:30.000 Re-engage.

01:16:33.000 Go out on the attack.

01:16:35.000 Come on, son.

01:16:36.000 God dang.

01:16:38.000 If that doesn't make you fired up, you need to go to a doctor.

01:16:42.000 Can people hear that on the podcast?

01:16:45.000 If they download it on iTunes?

01:16:47.000 That?

01:16:47.000 Yeah, they'll hear that.

01:16:48.000 For sure.

01:16:49.000 Yeah, we're playing that.

01:16:50.000 Listen, if you listen to that... 0.99

01:16:51.000 If I didn't have two friends in here, I'd punch someone in the face right now. 1.00

01:16:54.000 I want to shoot a broadhead through someone's neck. 1.00

01:16:59.000 That's what Jocko's all about, man. 1.00

01:17:01.000 When I run, I literally hear that sometimes. 0.93

01:17:03.000 When I'm fucking exhausted, when I hit the high hills... 0.93

01:17:05.000 I've never ran to that. 0.99

01:17:06.000 If I did, I wouldn't even be here right now.

01:17:09.000 I'd have died of a heart attack somewhere.

01:17:10.000 I would have freaking had a cardiac arrest.

01:17:13.000 Yeah.

01:17:14.000 I don't listen to it when I run, because I really believe that listening to music when you're running is cheating.

01:17:20.000 What?

01:17:20.000 Why?

01:17:21.000 That's right, because it's easier.

01:17:23.000 Are you kidding me?

01:17:24.000 I'm serious, yeah.

01:17:25.000 Well, I think that when you run, it should be in your mind.

01:17:29.000 You should be with your thoughts alone.

01:17:33.000 And I think that when you run and you listen to music, it's easier.

01:17:36.000 Therefore, it's cheating.

01:17:40.000 I'm pissed right now.

01:17:42.000 Both of you guys are mad! 1.00

01:17:43.000 Both of you two homos running with your Walkmans with your earplugs on. 1.00

01:17:50.000 Alright, go five miles then.

01:17:52.000 They're earbuds, by the way.

01:17:53.000 Do you think it's different?

01:17:54.000 Is it different to go two miles than five miles?

01:17:56.000 I can do two miles in 20 minutes and not worry about it.

01:17:59.000 Right, but you can do two miles in the hills?

01:18:00.000 Five miles is probably easier than two.

01:18:03.000 Five miles is harder.

01:18:03.000 It's just overall running an hour.

01:18:06.000 So you have to listen to music?

01:18:08.000 Britney Spears gets you through the last three?

01:18:09.000 Don't have to.

01:18:11.000 It helps with the mind games of getting through it all.

01:18:13.000 I'm sure.

01:18:14.000 But that's the whole idea.

01:18:15.000 It's cheating.

01:18:16.000 I'm pissed.

01:18:17.000 So I was wearing shoes then.

01:18:19.000 Yes, you're right!

01:18:20.000 You're right.

01:18:21.000 Wearing shoes is cheating.

01:18:23.000 What?

01:18:24.000 Yeah, you should be barefoot.

01:18:25.000 Okay, here we go.

01:18:26.000 We were watching a video the other day that Jamie almost made me throw up.

01:18:29.000 It was a dude who was carving off of his calluses with a knife.

01:18:33.000 He had calluses that were so thick.

01:18:35.000 He had a knife out and he was carving the calluses off and then a dog was eating them.

01:18:39.000 Well, I don't know about the dog eating them part, but I've definitely carved off calluses.

01:18:43.000 You've never seen calluses like this.

01:18:45.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:18:46.000 This guy looks like you've been walking barefoot for several years.

01:18:49.000 I'm just pissed because last time I was here, you talked about the fact where...

01:18:53.000 Oh, God.

01:18:57.000 What did I talk about last time?

01:18:58.000 Do we have that coin flipped over saying, yes, please?

01:19:01.000 Oh, the Brazilian Chuhas Korea coin?

01:19:04.000 Look at this.

01:19:05.000 No, thank you.

01:19:06.000 Come on, look at this.

01:19:07.000 I'm flipped it. 1.00

01:19:07.000 He's carving off chunks of his callus with a fucking knife. 1.00

01:19:13.000 Dude, and the dog's going to eat that. 1.00

01:19:15.000 Of course he will.

01:19:16.000 It says, man cuts calluses off his foot with knife and dogs eat it.

01:19:19.000 That's not calluses.

01:19:20.000 That's a dead foot.

01:19:22.000 Like, Mr. Deeds is on YouTube right now.

01:19:25.000 I think he's moving around, though.

01:19:26.000 He's alive.

01:19:27.000 Look at this.

01:19:28.000 Look at this.

01:19:29.000 Come on, son. 1.00

01:19:30.000 He's got a goddamn fillet knife. 0.98

01:19:32.000 Anyone who's watching with a podcast, anyone who's listening with a podcast right now, please YouTube this. 1.00

01:19:39.000 Look at the dog.

01:19:40.000 The dog's going to eat it. 0.97

01:19:41.000 That's a starving dog. 0.97

01:19:43.000 I like that beagle.

01:19:44.000 The dog's confused.

01:19:47.000 He's like, is this blue cheese?

01:19:48.000 Do I eat humans?

01:19:49.000 Is this blue cheese or is this a little trimmed foot?

01:19:53.000 It's a hard video to get over.

01:19:55.000 I saw that video.

01:19:56.000 I had to take a leak at like 5 o'clock in the morning.

01:19:59.000 I always do this, man.

01:20:01.000 I'm thirsty at night, and I'm like, you shouldn't drink, because if you drink, then you're going to wake up in the middle of the night, and you're going to have to pee.

01:20:07.000 You know that thing.

01:20:07.000 But I'm like, but I'm thirsty.

01:20:09.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:20:09.000 I'll deal with that later. 1.00

01:20:10.000 I'm a live-in-the-moment kind of guy.

01:20:12.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:20:12.000 And at 5 o'clock in the morning, I'm peeing, and all I'm thinking about when I'm peeing, I'm shaking my head thinking about that dude chopping calluses off his foot with a goddamn cleaver. 0.99

01:20:20.000 Oh. 0.99

01:20:21.000 I like that.

01:20:22.000 I think they could serve that with a cheese plate.

01:20:24.000 That guy probably runs barefoot.

01:20:27.000 Well, last time I was here, you talked to me about having kettlebells in random places so that as you walk by them, you can just grab them and do a few sets, not go to failure, right?

01:20:39.000 Now, you're freaking running with no music because it makes it tougher. 0.99

01:20:45.000 Yeah, I don't want to be a pussy. 1.00

01:20:46.000 All those people running with music. 1.00

01:20:49.000 You heard me.

01:20:52.000 People are listening to the Rogan podcast right now.

01:20:54.000 While they're running.

01:20:55.000 Turn it off.

01:20:59.000 Folks, I'm kidding. 1.00

01:21:00.000 Jesus Christ, I don't really think you're a pussy. 1.00

01:21:02.000 I listen to music all the time when I'm on an elliptical machine, if that makes you feel better. 0.99

01:21:06.000 You told James Hetfield that you listened to his new record that morning while you were working out.

01:21:15.000 I did.

01:21:16.000 Yeah, I was in the gym lifting. 1.00

01:21:18.000 So you're a pussy. 1.00

01:21:19.000 See this? 1.00

01:21:19.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

01:21:20.000 It came from Metallica.

01:21:22.000 Dude, make that mongoose bite! 1.00

01:21:26.000 I like the fact that Metallica's still going hard.

01:21:29.000 I mean, they're like 85 years old.

01:21:30.000 I went to their concert in Iowa.

01:21:33.000 My buddy Torsten, his wife, Trina, she works for Q Prime, hooked me up on some tickets to the Metallica concert in Iowa. 0.99

01:21:43.000 Damn! 0.99

01:21:44.000 And they freaking rocked. 0.99

01:21:47.000 See, Jim Brewer to open for Metallica on the WorldWire Tour. 1.00

01:21:53.000 Get rid of the goddamn pop-up, son of a bitch. 1.00

01:21:56.000 I know. 1.00

01:21:56.000 I was like, what is this? 1.00

01:21:58.000 Jim Brewer is actually the one who...

01:22:00.000 There he is.

01:22:01.000 Oh, another pop-up.

01:22:02.000 Jesus Christ.

01:22:03.000 Welcome to the world we live in.

01:22:04.000 Yep, pop it.

01:22:04.000 People are so greedy.

01:22:06.000 This is crazy.

01:22:07.000 Yesterday, Sharon was looking...

01:22:10.000 Because I still have my real wedding ring on.

01:22:14.000 Your wedding ring?

01:22:15.000 I have mine, too.

01:22:16.000 I know, but have you seen any of those weird videos of people stripping their fingers off on pull-up bars and stuff?

01:22:24.000 I have a friend who had to get an operation.

01:22:27.000 Not a friend.

01:22:28.000 A dude I know.

01:22:29.000 Who had to get an operation because while he was doing jiu-jitsu...

01:22:32.000 Great, now he knows he's not on the list.

01:22:34.000 Well, I know him, but I don't know him.

01:22:37.000 I don't have his number.

01:22:38.000 Okay, he's not a friend.

01:22:38.000 I feel like if I don't have your number or your email, I never emailed him.

01:22:41.000 Anyway, his wedding ring bent and dug into his finger while he was training.

01:22:47.000 Something happened.

01:22:48.000 Imagine how strong, like, an arm bar has to be, or the pressure on your joint, whatever the fuck it was, but it dug into his finger so deeply that he had to get it surgically removed.

01:22:59.000 You're talking jiu-jitsu bent ring?

01:23:00.000 Jiu-jitsu.

01:23:01.000 Oh, my God.

01:23:02.000 Oh, my God, indeed.

01:23:03.000 What do you got?

01:23:04.000 Got pictures?

01:23:05.000 It wasn't from jiu-jitsu, but it happened to Jimmy Fallon a few years ago.

01:23:07.000 Horrifying injury that caused ring avulation.

01:23:11.000 His bout with ring avulation, a finger injury that looks and sounds like something from a horror movie.

01:23:16.000 Okay, let's see.

01:23:17.000 So that was his wedding ring as well?

01:23:19.000 Yeah.

01:23:20.000 Ripped the skin off his whole finger, I think.

01:23:22.000 I'm down for the tattoo.

01:23:24.000 Let's see this bone. 0.95

01:23:25.000 I'll get that queer wedding tattoo. 1.00

01:23:28.000 You know that tattoo that guys get on their fingers?

01:23:30.000 I tried to get it, but they talked us out of it.

01:23:33.000 Two different tattoo places said it was the jinx.

01:23:37.000 Said if you do it, it's like the curse.

01:23:41.000 That's not true. 1.00

01:23:42.000 My friend Big John McCarthy has that shit. 1.00

01:23:45.000 He's been married forever. 1.00

01:23:45.000 Happily married. 1.00

01:23:47.000 Give it time.

01:23:48.000 No.

01:23:48.000 Sorry, John.

01:23:49.000 How long can it last?

01:23:50.000 I mean, he's almost dead.

01:23:51.000 Just kidding.

01:23:52.000 God dang, that's ruthless.

01:23:54.000 He's super nice.

01:23:56.000 I've met him.

01:23:57.000 He's a good guy.

01:23:58.000 He's super nice.

01:23:59.000 But I'm just kidding.

01:24:00.000 But rings are archaic.

01:24:02.000 You know, there's a company that makes a rubber ring.

01:24:05.000 Yeah.

01:24:06.000 Literally, that's what I was talking about. 1.00

01:24:08.000 If I tried to put that shit on my wife, it spit in my face. 1.00

01:24:10.000 Here's what's weird. 1.00

01:24:12.000 Sharon was going to buy me that just because I kept telling her I'm worried about ripping this finger off.

01:24:19.000 Right.

01:24:21.000 Mainly because my wedding ring is definitely too small.

01:24:24.000 So she was looking at some of those silicone rings and we were literally looking at it on her iPad in my kitchen.

01:24:34.000 I opened Instagram and started looking.

01:24:38.000 It's like sponsored ad by that ring company.

01:24:44.000 Isn't that what's weird?

01:24:46.000 It's very weird.

01:24:47.000 We were just talking about that.

01:24:48.000 We were just talking about that the other day.

01:24:50.000 Who's this we stuff?

01:24:51.000 You and Jamie?

01:24:52.000 Jamie and whoever was on the podcast.

01:24:53.000 We were talking about having a conversation.

01:24:57.000 And if you have, like, Alexa, or if you have, like, certain things that, like, listen to you while you're talking, like, maybe even possibly Siri, and then all of a sudden you'll go to Google, and what you were talking about, like, slick trick broadheads or some shit like that, will show up in your Google ads. 0.99

01:25:13.000 You're like, what in the fuck?! 0.99

01:25:15.000 Maybe Siri.

01:25:17.000 Siri's a total frickin'... 0.86

01:25:19.000 She is a peeping Tom. 1.00

01:25:21.000 She's a two-faced little hoe. 1.00

01:25:23.000 I don't think she's two-faced.

01:25:24.000 I think she's...

01:25:24.000 Hey, Siri.

01:25:25.000 She doesn't have a single face. 1.00

01:25:28.000 You're a two-faced bitch. 1.00

01:25:31.000 Oh, you're not connected. 1.00

01:25:32.000 Is that a bad thing, though?

01:25:33.000 I know it's weird, and it's giving up something.

01:25:35.000 Yeah, it's bad.

01:25:36.000 But I mean, potentially, you could view that as something like, I would probably want to buy that, and now that it's here and an easier way for me to do it, that is kind of good.

01:25:43.000 I'm just going to play the devil's advocate on it.

01:25:45.000 If you say, oh my god, I'm going to die out here, at that time, Siri can step in and say, would you like me to call a helicopter?

01:25:54.000 But when you're looking at rubber rings for your wedding ring...

01:25:58.000 And then it shows up on your laptop.

01:26:00.000 Yeah.

01:26:00.000 There's something weird about that.

01:26:02.000 At that point, she's a sellout.

01:26:03.000 There's something weird.

01:26:04.000 Let's get to the bottom of this.

01:26:05.000 Well, it most certainly exists with Google.

01:26:09.000 Because I've looked at, like...

01:26:11.000 What are we, cheers?

01:26:13.000 I've looked at some...

01:26:14.000 You're milking it over there.

01:26:15.000 I'm alright.

01:26:16.000 Sally?

01:26:17.000 I smoked pot, though.

01:26:18.000 You didn't.

01:26:19.000 Oh, you did a little...

01:26:20.000 Shh! 0.97

01:26:20.000 Don't tell any sponsors. 0.97

01:26:23.000 I might have made that last part up.

01:26:25.000 The problem is you'll be looking at something super obscure, like a Casio watch.

01:26:33.000 It's not a Casio.

01:26:35.000 That's Casio.

01:26:37.000 Yeah.

01:26:39.000 Alright.

01:26:39.000 It's a good one.

01:26:40.000 I like this one.

01:26:41.000 It's like a Pro-Tech.

01:26:42.000 It totally doesn't look like it.

01:26:43.000 It has an altimeter and a compass in it.

01:26:45.000 It totally doesn't look like it.

01:26:46.000 It is a Casio.

01:26:47.000 Come on, man. 1.00

01:26:48.000 See that shit? 1.00

01:26:50.000 Very nice. 1.00

01:26:51.000 But then all of a sudden, they'll show you whatever you search for.

01:26:55.000 Whatever it was, whether it's surfboards or... 1.00

01:26:58.000 Fucking Hildeberg tents. 1.00

01:27:00.000 They'll be for sale. 0.99

01:27:01.000 You'll see like Amazon.com ads.

01:27:04.000 I was looking at Zeiss Binos the other day. 0.99

01:27:07.000 I read a great review.

01:27:09.000 Well, you and I talked about it.

01:27:09.000 Yes.

01:27:10.000 Actually.

01:27:11.000 Yeah, but then I read a review on them, and I actually Googled them.

01:27:14.000 But then everywhere I went, if I went online, I would see a little Google ad for Zeiss Binos.

01:27:20.000 I'm like, this is kind of creepy.

01:27:21.000 But that's different.

01:27:22.000 I think if you Google search it, you're on the grid.

01:27:25.000 You are on the grid.

01:27:26.000 But if you're on someone else's device in your home kitchen, it's not like I was looking at it on mine.

01:27:33.000 Right.

01:27:34.000 I was on Sharon's iPad.

01:27:36.000 Then she was ordering me a ring on her iPad and we were talking about it.

01:27:42.000 Then I opened my Instagram up and here's the silicone rings as a sponsored recommendation within my Instagram feed.

01:27:58.000 He's backing up.

01:27:59.000 You gotta back it up, back it up.

01:28:01.000 I gotta go back to that.

01:28:04.000 Gmail's free for a reason.

01:28:05.000 These are all free services we're using and not paying for, so you have to give up a little bit to get these cool things.

01:28:10.000 You have to give up your privilege.

01:28:12.000 I get it, but here's my position.

01:28:16.000 Everything I think of is out there.

01:28:20.000 I'm a professional talker. 0.98

01:28:23.000 The most fucked up ideas I've ever had have all been recorded. 0.99

01:28:28.000 Very true. 0.99

01:28:29.000 100% true.

01:28:31.000 There's no getting around that.

01:28:32.000 Like, I don't have any hiding.

01:28:34.000 And you do come up with some crazy stuff.

01:28:37.000 Anybody would.

01:28:39.000 I'm telling you, there's nothing special about me.

01:28:41.000 Anybody would, if you didn't have a job, and you had enough free time, and you weren't worried about paying your bills.

01:28:48.000 You were in tune with the universe.

01:28:57.000 Anybody would.

01:28:58.000 We all would.

01:29:00.000 There's nothing special about me.

01:29:01.000 Cheers.

01:29:03.000 Andy.

01:29:05.000 Powerfully missing you.

01:29:07.000 There's nothing special about that freak jumping off cliffs, flying around.

01:29:11.000 I posted his video today.

01:29:12.000 I know.

01:29:13.000 Do you want some of that?

01:29:13.000 No.

01:29:14.000 Good.

01:29:14.000 Good for you.

01:29:15.000 I'm glad.

01:29:16.000 Stay away from this.

01:29:18.000 This is a bad drug.

01:29:19.000 This is a drug the government doesn't approve of.

01:29:23.000 California does.

01:29:25.000 Jeff Sessions was in town today.

01:29:27.000 Good grief.

01:29:28.000 He was telling people to stop letting Mexicans in.

01:29:32.000 People are watching this.

01:29:33.000 That's actually five feet away from me, but it looked like a fog machine in Hollywood right there.

01:29:41.000 Like some horror movie?

01:29:43.000 Yeah.

01:29:44.000 Do you know, remember when I talked, have you ever listened to my podcast with Mike Slinkard?

01:29:51.000 Yes.

01:29:51.000 With Hex?

01:29:52.000 Yes.

01:29:53.000 I've listened to every podcast you've ever done.

01:29:55.000 That's crazy.

01:29:59.000 Knock on podcast.

01:30:03.000 Mike actually went to Dr. McGee.

01:30:06.000 Did he?

01:30:07.000 Yeah.

01:30:07.000 He couldn't pull his bow for almost a year because he had so many problems in the shoulder and he was really dreading the surgery because he was worried about his downtime.

01:30:19.000 And I told him, like, man, you need to call Roddy because...

01:30:24.000 There's a possibility you don't need the knife.

01:30:27.000 And so he went down there and he ended up getting an injection, I think in September or October.

01:30:34.000 And then he came hunting with me in November and we actually shot together and he goes, this is the first time I've been able to shoot my boat in a long, long time.

01:30:43.000 It's crazy.

01:30:44.000 Wow.

01:30:47.000 That's amazing.

01:30:48.000 It's just so cool that there's something like that out there for people.

01:30:51.000 And there's a bunch of different versions of it.

01:30:52.000 I know people that have had really good results where some places they take the stem cells out of your fat.

01:30:57.000 They give you a little baby liposuction, pull some fat out, take the stem cells, mix it up, shoot it into joints.

01:31:04.000 People have had real positive results with that.

01:31:07.000 It's weird that we did it the way we did it with the blood, but then there's also the out of the bone marrow, which is supposed to be more painful.

01:31:15.000 It's supposed to be more painful, but it's also supposed to be really effective.

01:31:19.000 Daniel Cormier had that done.

01:31:21.000 He had real good results with that.

01:31:22.000 He had that done with a knee injury, and he was concerned, like, I think, I believe, I don't want to speak out of school, I'm pretty sure it was an MCL. It wasn't the big one.

01:31:35.000 It wasn't the ACL. The ACL is the big one.

01:31:38.000 That's a tough one.

01:31:39.000 That's the stabilizer one.

01:31:41.000 That's the one that goes through the center of the knee. 0.99

01:31:43.000 I've blown both of those out.

01:31:45.000 Have you really?

01:31:46.000 Yeah.

01:31:47.000 Did you get them both cut on?

01:31:48.000 Yeah, both of them reconstructed. 0.97

01:31:51.000 Yeah, the first one I had done where they take a chunk of your patella tendon with a piece of your kneecap and a piece of your shin and they open you up like a trout and they fucking screw that baby in. 0.74

01:32:03.000 I don't know if I've ever seen the front of your kneecap.

01:32:06.000 Yeah, you can see it.

01:32:07.000 That's a big cut normally.

01:32:09.000 Get those barbell jeans up. 1.00

01:32:12.000 These are barbell jeans.

01:32:13.000 Mine are too.

01:32:14.000 Also not a sponsor.

01:32:15.000 You can kind of see it.

01:32:16.000 They're awesome guys.

01:32:17.000 Well, it's a great product.

01:32:19.000 Check you're flexing your calf out.

01:32:21.000 I'm not flexing.

01:32:22.000 That's just what my calf looks like.

01:32:24.000 I am.

01:32:24.000 I'm not.

01:32:25.000 I am.

01:32:26.000 You're flexing.

01:32:27.000 I'm not.

01:32:27.000 I'm not flexing.

01:32:28.000 It's as hard as a rock.

01:32:29.000 I'm not at all.

01:32:29.000 Look.

01:32:30.000 Look.

01:32:30.000 All right.

01:32:31.000 See?

01:32:31.000 I'm loosing.

01:32:33.000 I'm very loose.

01:32:34.000 I'm flexing mine.

01:32:35.000 I want to look cool.

01:32:36.000 This is great now, but it was in pain for a year.

01:32:39.000 A solid year.

01:32:41.000 Like I couldn't kneel.

01:32:42.000 No kneeling.

01:32:43.000 There was no kneeling going on. 1.00

01:32:44.000 If I had to suck dick, I'd be in real trouble. 1.00

01:32:47.000 I'd have to lie on the bed, let a dude mount my face. 1.00

01:32:49.000 There was no way I'd be able to...

01:32:51.000 That's the alcohol talking.

01:32:55.000 The point is, it was painful.

01:32:57.000 But the other one that I had done, I had it done with a...

01:33:00.000 Like taking you to another planet.

01:33:02.000 I had it done with a cadaver.

01:33:04.000 Oh, you did?

01:33:05.000 That was way easier, but way weirder.

01:33:08.000 Because you're thinking about some dead person's parts in your body.

01:33:12.000 My father, well, I shouldn't say that. 0.99

01:33:15.000 Sharon's stepdad has a pig heart. 0.97

01:33:19.000 And he's pretty proud of it. 0.99

01:33:21.000 Wow, he has a pig heart? 0.97

01:33:22.000 Like they grew it in a pig? 0.92

01:33:24.000 What?

01:33:25.000 You mean it's a pig heart like it's his? 0.97

01:33:27.000 No, they used a pig valve in his heart. 0.96

01:33:30.000 Oh, okay.

01:33:30.000 They can't do that with a whole heart.

01:33:32.000 I don't think so.

01:33:33.000 But they can do it with parts, right?

01:33:34.000 Pigs are super similar, apparently, to people with certain organs to the point where they think that there might be a time where we use genetic engineering to manipulate a pig to grow human body parts.

01:33:48.000 What?

01:33:49.000 Yeah, they're real close, apparently, to figuring out a way to combine human...

01:33:56.000 There you go.

01:33:57.000 Scientists grow bullish on pig-to-human transplants.

01:34:01.000 Jamie just pulled up an article from Baltimore.

01:34:04.000 What's bullish mean?

01:34:04.000 What is the website?

01:34:06.000 Sciencemag.org.

01:34:08.000 And this is something that they've...

01:34:10.000 There's apparently enough similarity...

01:34:13.000 This is coming from a dummy, by the way.

01:34:15.000 Settle down. 0.89

01:34:16.000 Enough similarity between pigs and humans that we might be able to grow their organs. 0.59

01:34:21.000 Grow our organs, rather, inside of them.

01:34:24.000 And so, like, if you needed a new liver or a kidney, or if you needed maybe even a heart, something, they could possibly grow it inside of this genetically altered pig, because they're really close to us. 0.99

01:34:42.000 It's freaky shit, man. 0.99

01:34:43.000 It's definitely freaky. 1.00

01:34:45.000 It's freaky shit because one of the things that I've gotten more and more adamant about from being around wild animals Is that that's really the only way animals should be. 0.99

01:34:59.000 I mean, there's one thing like your dog, like Shades. 0.99

01:35:02.000 I don't want Shades to be wild.

01:35:04.000 She's a sweetie, right?

01:35:06.000 You know, I mean...

01:35:07.000 She wouldn't make it.

01:35:08.000 That's a different thing.

01:35:09.000 She wouldn't make it wild.

01:35:10.000 It's a different thing.

01:35:11.000 A pet is a different thing.

01:35:12.000 And anybody who thinks it's not a different...

01:35:14.000 That's a family member.

01:35:15.000 My pets are family members.

01:35:17.000 My dog, my...

01:35:18.000 You know...

01:35:20.000 If I have an interaction with a dog, it's like I love them.

01:35:24.000 It's not the same as the way I feel about a wild thing.

01:35:33.000 A wild thing, I want to be wild. 0.93

01:35:35.000 I really want them to be wild because I just think that we fucked up. 0.92

01:35:40.000 We got real comfortable with this way of raising and treating life. 0.98

01:35:48.000 Outside of our own species.

01:35:50.000 Even our own, I would argue.

01:35:53.000 Sure.

01:35:53.000 And you'd be right.

01:35:55.000 Yeah, I think even our own has been...

01:35:57.000 I think the whole picture is completely different now.

01:36:02.000 People don't get it.

01:36:04.000 I mean, we want our pet dog to be part of our family.

01:36:10.000 Yeah.

01:36:10.000 But the reality is, if they were legitimately out there in the wild, they would be...

01:36:17.000 Dead that quick.

01:36:18.000 My kids got rabbits. 1.00

01:36:20.000 They're useless. 1.00

01:36:21.000 They don't give a fuck about these rabbits. 1.00

01:36:24.000 We talked about this in Vegas. 1.00

01:36:26.000 They were like, we have to give rabbits.

01:36:28.000 I'm like, okay, okay, we'll get rabbits. 0.99

01:36:30.000 They don't give a fuck about those rabbits. 1.00

01:36:32.000 They go like a week without even looking at those things. 1.00

01:36:35.000 They just don't care.

01:36:36.000 And the rabbits, they chill with the chickens in the chicken coop.

01:36:39.000 So everybody's good.

01:36:40.000 Rabbits are having a good old time. 0.97

01:36:42.000 They're selfish too. 0.99

01:36:44.000 Here's the thing.

01:36:45.000 A rabbit is a small prey animal that has to adapt to its environment.

01:36:50.000 So if its environment is just them being outside by themselves all the time, why would you expect them to be domesticated?

01:36:57.000 They're basically wild in a cage.

01:37:00.000 They're not constantly getting direct contact with people.

01:37:03.000 But don't you think some people could be argued the same?

01:37:06.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:37:08.000 Gene, I haven't let you see this yet.

01:37:11.000 I'll let you finish your point.

01:37:13.000 There's just such a difference between them and a dog. 1.00

01:37:16.000 The idea that a rabbit interacts with you the way a fucking dog does is bananas. 1.00

01:37:22.000 You're losing me. 1.00

01:37:23.000 If you don't tell me you like dogs more than you like rabbits, I can't talk to you.

01:37:27.000 Because I've got dogs that are like little people.

01:37:30.000 I mean, they're like my friends.

01:37:33.000 Like, Marshall's my friend.

01:37:34.000 He's a one-year-old friend that I have.

01:37:36.000 I have one friend who's one years old, and I hang with this dude.

01:37:40.000 He's cool.

01:37:40.000 And he's literally your best friend, and there's like nothing separating you from his best friend.

01:37:48.000 No, we're super tight.

01:37:51.000 We're like this.

01:37:51.000 As long as he doesn't steal food off the table, which he will if I'm not looking.

01:37:54.000 Yeah, but that's your side.

01:37:56.000 To his side, he's 100% dedicated.

01:38:00.000 Even if you stole food from his side, he would still be your best friend the next day.

01:38:04.000 100%.

01:38:05.000 He's just got to know the rules.

01:38:06.000 Can't be stealing food.

01:38:08.000 Climbing on the table. 1.00

01:38:10.000 Fucking savage. 1.00

01:38:11.000 Like, dogs would just jump on the table. 1.00

01:38:13.000 You don't realize how...

01:38:16.000 Like, oh, of course, that's where the food is.

01:38:17.000 Why wouldn't he jump up there?

01:38:19.000 It's amazing you've been able to stop him from jumping up there the moment he gets in the room.

01:38:23.000 That's what's really amazing.

01:38:24.000 Here's what's crazy, though.

01:38:26.000 If people had to really go out in the world and defend themselves like our dogs would that are technically family members...

01:38:37.000 There would be a very clear line drawn.

01:38:40.000 Yes, but they don't, and that's why we're delusional.

01:38:42.000 And then there's movies. 0.99

01:38:44.000 Disney movies, Bambi, all that crazy shit, Yogi and Boo Boo. 0.99

01:38:49.000 But what was that rabbit movie? 1.00

01:38:51.000 Because when we got on this subject...

01:38:53.000 Peter Rabbit, the most recent one?

01:38:53.000 No, Sharon brought up that movie that was like the darkest kids movie.

01:38:59.000 Was it Ted?

01:39:00.000 No, it was a rabbit movie.

01:39:02.000 A rabbit movie.

01:39:04.000 What was the name of it?

01:39:05.000 Look it up, Jamie.

01:39:06.000 It was considered one of the darkest kids' movies.

01:39:11.000 It was all about rabbits, and I'm trying to think of what the name of it was.

01:39:16.000 I don't even know what that is.

01:39:19.000 There was a YouTube video showing pretty much it was like a highlight reel of that movie.

01:39:25.000 And it was to, I think, a Marilyn Manson song.

01:39:28.000 And it was crazy.

01:39:31.000 It's pretty dark.

01:39:32.000 I think it was called Bright Eyes?

01:39:34.000 Or maybe that was the theme song to the movie?

01:39:37.000 Bright Eyes?

01:39:38.000 A dark rabbit movie.

01:39:41.000 Dum-dum-dum. 0.93

01:39:43.000 Seriously, you need to look that up on YouTube. 0.72

01:39:45.000 Imagine getting killed by a rabbit.

01:39:46.000 Look up bright eyes. 1.00

01:39:47.000 Imagine, fuck Bigfoot. 1.00

01:39:49.000 Imagine a seven-foot rabbit that tries to bite your head off with those giant teeth. 1.00

01:39:53.000 I don't know.

01:39:54.000 Seven-foot rabbit.

01:39:55.000 I don't know if I'd be that terrified.

01:39:57.000 I'd be terrified.

01:39:57.000 Seven-foot grizzly, I'd be way more terrified.

01:40:00.000 For sure.

01:40:01.000 Seven-foot crocodile, way more terrified.

01:40:03.000 Okay, here we go.

01:40:04.000 Seven-foot Komodo dragon.

01:40:05.000 Did you find it?

01:40:06.000 Maybe.

01:40:07.000 What is this?

01:40:07.000 Watership Down, maybe?

01:40:08.000 Yep, that's it.

01:40:09.000 Oh, this is a depressing rabbit movie.

01:40:12.000 It is.

01:40:13.000 Dude, I remember this.

01:40:15.000 You need to watch this.

01:40:17.000 Wow.

01:40:18.000 Watership Down trailer.

01:40:20.000 If we play it, we'll get yanked off of YouTube.

01:40:22.000 Can you play that?

01:40:24.000 We can't play any clips.

01:40:26.000 Dude, it's crazy today what's going on with people who own it.

01:40:30.000 Go ahead.

01:40:31.000 Take a leak.

01:40:32.000 Hey, Jamie.

01:40:34.000 While we're talking about...

01:40:37.000 Alligators or crocodiles.

01:40:39.000 You gotta see this.

01:40:40.000 This is actually one of the guys that...

01:40:43.000 Dancing with Dragons?

01:40:44.000 Yeah, this is a new short film coming up.

01:40:47.000 This is one of the guys that is...

01:40:50.000 He documents wildlife.

01:40:54.000 Look at that mouth on that thing. 1.00

01:40:56.000 And he's a hex advocate, but he wasn't a hex advocate first.

01:41:00.000 He was a...

01:41:01.000 Well, let's explain what hex is.

01:41:03.000 You can explain it.

01:41:06.000 HECS is a company that makes these suits that apparently the idea is that they block an electromagnetic frequency that people emit.

01:41:19.000 Am I saying that right?

01:41:20.000 Yeah, you're good.

01:41:22.000 An electromagnetic current that your body emits.

01:41:26.000 There's something that they think John Dudley has left the room.

01:41:29.000 He has to pee.

01:41:31.000 I don't know.

01:41:32.000 This is the most honest way I can say this.

01:41:37.000 John...

01:41:39.000 is a big believer in this hex system and I don't know if it works but I know a lot of people think it works and there is a test that they use where there's a machine see if you can find they have a video of it explaining how it works and in the video it says it in there there's on the website there's video link see the video link yeah See where it says videos?

01:42:05.000 There's something where they show they can swipe their arm over some sort of a machine that is designed to detect Electrical current that comes from your body and they do it with just a normal arm with like a shirt on and then they do it with this hex suit on and the hex suit it blocks whatever that frequency is and so the idea is that we're assuming that somehow or another the animals Might have some sort of method

01:42:36.000 of detection by way of the actual electoral energy that's come from a person.

01:42:40.000 Do I know if that's correct?

01:42:42.000 I do not.

01:42:43.000 I do not know if that's correct.

01:42:44.000 It's fascinating to think of though, because I wonder How many different animals have this interesting sort of ability to detect things other than just smelling and seeing?

01:42:58.000 Like maybe there's a feel.

01:43:00.000 Maybe they have a feel.

01:43:01.000 And apparently these things are particularly effective with predators.

01:43:07.000 Which kind of makes sense, I guess, that predators would feel the electrical frequency that's coming from a nervous, scared animal, or something that's trying to run from it.

01:43:19.000 And these things are really effective, apparently, with coyotes.

01:43:23.000 And this is this documentary, or this little short film, rather, Dancing with Dragons.

01:43:30.000 Perfect timing. 0.99

01:43:31.000 I just explained Hex to a T. I'm a wizard without knowing shit. 0.99

01:43:35.000 Barely got through high school. 0.98

01:43:37.000 Watch this.

01:43:38.000 So apparently this signal, whatever the human signal is, I mean, the fact that they can detect it in this machine, and I've watched that detection.

01:43:48.000 It's real.

01:43:49.000 It's legitimate.

01:43:49.000 So something's happening that the machine detects.

01:43:52.000 I think we would be foolhardy to believe that animals can't detect that.

01:43:57.000 Now, does that mean that it will work on everything?

01:44:00.000 No.

01:44:00.000 I'm a believer.

01:44:00.000 I'm a believer too.

01:44:01.000 But this is what I think.

01:44:03.000 There's so many factors when it comes to getting close to an animal.

01:44:06.000 I think they have so many senses.

01:44:08.000 I think they can smell in some insane way that we can't even imagine. 1.00

01:44:12.000 They can hear shit we can never hear. 1.00

01:44:14.000 They're just tuned in. 0.99

01:44:15.000 The idea that that would be it, that they wouldn't have some other shit that we haven't really thought of, This would be a good guest for you. 0.97

01:44:22.000 His name is Forrest Galente. 0.92

01:44:24.000 He's actually got some really cool stuff coming up that I'm not able to talk about, but I know you enough to know that it's in your wheelhouse.

01:44:38.000 But this is all 100% wild.

01:44:42.000 I think...

01:44:43.000 I don't want to say it wrong, but I think it's at a certain place down south of Mexico.

01:44:48.000 Can we actually show this to the people on YouTube?

01:44:50.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:44:52.000 He just had a documentary that came out.

01:44:56.000 He's in a hex suit that actually has a pattern that resembles the saltwater crocodiles.

01:45:04.000 Whoa.

01:45:04.000 Did you notice that part?

01:45:06.000 I did.

01:45:07.000 But I only did once you brought it up.

01:45:09.000 So he's mimicking the behaviors of a saltwater croc so that he can literally be within...

01:45:19.000 A few inches of them.

01:45:49.000 So, you know, in the wildlife community, things like sharks and shark week obviously have a huge amount of funding behind it.

01:45:58.000 Migratory birds, same thing.

01:46:01.000 So all that stuff, there's been very good documentation on, you know, electromagnetic fields and what animals can see.

01:46:10.000 But when it comes to, like, the hunting community, obviously there's not a lot of big funding behind it because it's a much smaller community.

01:46:18.000 But things like this, things that are on Animal Planet or Discovery Channel, I mean, these are things that are at, I think, a higher level of, you know, maybe testing versus what we have in the hunting side.

01:46:33.000 And I just know that me personally, as a hunter, I've experienced more, like, up-close interaction with With it, so I just find some of this stuff really cool.

01:46:43.000 Is it possible that that's like a placebo effect?

01:46:45.000 That you maybe just were in a really good spot with really good wind and you had a few experiences, so you put it together and you said this is what's happening?

01:46:53.000 Is it possible?

01:46:54.000 It's possible, but in the same sense, I'll leave that up to you.

01:46:59.000 I think it's possible, too.

01:47:00.000 But this is why I brought it up, because I think it's possible, but I think people want one or the other, right?

01:47:05.000 And I think it's also entirely possible, if there's a machine that can detect your electrical magnetic frequency or whatever the fuck that is, when they do it over that machine.

01:47:14.000 Which there is.

01:47:15.000 There is, and I've seen it.

01:47:16.000 Yeah.

01:47:16.000 Okay, so what's happening there?

01:47:18.000 And why are we assuming animals can't see that?

01:47:20.000 Well, they definitely can.

01:47:21.000 Why are we assuming animals can see at night?

01:47:22.000 They can see at night.

01:47:23.000 Yeah.

01:47:23.000 Right?

01:47:23.000 They do things that we can't do.

01:47:25.000 They smell things we can't smell.

01:47:26.000 They hear things we can't hear.

01:47:27.000 We have intuition.

01:47:28.000 Why would we assume that their intuition is not thousands of times sharper than ours? 1.00

01:47:32.000 They're running away from fucking crocodiles and shit. 1.00

01:47:35.000 Do you know that... 1.00

01:47:35.000 I know when you did the podcast with James Hetfield, you guys talked about bees a lot. 1.00

01:47:41.000 Do you know that bees, when they go to and from certain flowers, they actually leave an electromagnetic signal on that part so that actually other bees can see that and know that another bee had already been there to pollinate that area?

01:48:03.000 I've got a video I can show you that actually shows that.

01:48:07.000 Did I ever tell you about my experience with bees on Fear Factor?

01:48:12.000 Yeah.

01:48:12.000 Which is super cool.

01:48:14.000 Yeah.

01:48:14.000 They got together.

01:48:15.000 This was a crazy moment.

01:48:17.000 They had trained bees.

01:48:18.000 Bee communication contest.

01:48:20.000 Yeah.

01:48:20.000 These bees that this guy had brought in who was a beekeeper.

01:48:23.000 And then while we were doing a stunt on these people and they put the bees on these people, all of a sudden this local beehive emptied out and came to visit.

01:48:31.000 And all the bees got together in the middle of the sky and talked.

01:48:35.000 And we had to sit down for like a half an hour.

01:48:37.000 The guy was like, you know, we're not going to do anything.

01:48:40.000 We have to step back and let them work this out.

01:48:42.000 So he just knew.

01:48:44.000 He knew how like these Alien beings are going to communicate with each other.

01:48:49.000 They're life forms, man!

01:48:51.000 And we're just like, oh, it's just bees.

01:48:53.000 No, it's a little weird life form that can fly that somehow into the figures out.

01:48:59.000 They exchange information with these other weird life forms.

01:49:02.000 They realize, hey, we didn't ask to be here.

01:49:04.000 We're not trying to take over your community.

01:49:06.000 We showed up because we're doing Fear Factor.

01:49:08.000 You know the wiggle dance?

01:49:10.000 The little thing that bees do? 0.86

01:49:12.000 Yeah, the wiggle dance.

01:49:13.000 What is that?

01:49:14.000 They say that's They assume that's actually an electromagnetic dance that's done to where it gives a signal to the other bees to where they can actually know what they're communicating.

01:49:28.000 So they can say things?

01:49:30.000 Yep.

01:49:31.000 Do they know how complicated the speech can be?

01:49:34.000 Well, I mean, obviously if a bee is sitting in a hive in my bush out in my front yard and he knows to go three blocks down and two blocks over and get into those purple flowers that are in someone's front yard,

01:49:51.000 they must know pretty dang good.

01:49:54.000 How do they know?

01:49:56.000 I mean, we just...

01:49:58.000 If they had a hex suit on, they probably wouldn't be able to figure it out. 0.99

01:50:01.000 Be screwed.

01:50:02.000 That's an interesting idea, man, that there is really some sort of electrical... 0.98

01:50:06.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:50:06.000 Electrical fields of flowers stimulate the sensory hairs of bumblebees? 0.71

01:50:12.000 Holy shit, dude. 0.99

01:50:14.000 That is crazy! 1.00

01:50:14.000 You put a hex suit on a bumblebee and he's... 1.00

01:50:17.000 Like nothing's getting pollinated.

01:50:20.000 Listen to what that says.

01:50:22.000 Electrical fields of flowers stimulate the sensory hairs of bumblebees.

01:50:28.000 So their hairs are feeling where the wind is pulling them.

01:50:32.000 They're feeling some sort of electrical charge to a certain little green meadow.

01:50:37.000 Like that dance.

01:50:37.000 Solid.

01:50:38.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

01:50:40.000 That is... 1.00

01:50:41.000 We're just...

01:50:41.000 Because they can't send emails, they don't do anything that's really...

01:50:45.000 We've so slept on bees.

01:50:47.000 They're dying off like crazy because of cell phones.

01:50:50.000 They're super cool.

01:50:51.000 Cell phones and pesticides.

01:50:53.000 They're super cool.

01:50:54.000 Yeah.

01:50:56.000 People that don't give a fuck about bees, those are the most hardcore radical Republican guys. 0.99

01:51:03.000 Like, hey, we'll figure out mechanical bees. 0.99

01:51:04.000 Don't worry about it.

01:51:06.000 Okay, Black Mirror.

01:51:08.000 There's people that are like that, man!

01:51:09.000 That was a good show.

01:51:11.000 Dude, there's been a bunch of those.

01:51:12.000 Sharon and I started watching that because of you.

01:51:14.000 Did you watch the dog one with the robot dogs?

01:51:17.000 Yeah, we watched them. 0.99

01:51:19.000 It was a fucking terrifying show, right? 0.99

01:51:22.000 Because you're like, oh, this is all well within the realm of possibility. 0.99

01:51:26.000 All of it.

01:51:27.000 It's almost like a warning show. 0.99

01:51:29.000 It's like, hey, fuckos, this is what could go wrong. 1.00

01:51:33.000 Every episode of that. 0.99

01:51:35.000 Every episode of that!

01:51:36.000 Did you see the one with the, I don't want to give any spoilers, with the video game that they put a chip in your brain?

01:51:41.000 Did you see that one?

01:51:42.000 Yep. 1.00

01:51:43.000 Holy shit, man. 1.00

01:51:44.000 That's 100% gonna happen. 1.00

01:51:46.000 It's going to happen. 1.00

01:51:48.000 Oh my god, we're so fucked. 1.00

01:51:50.000 We're so fucked. 1.00

01:51:52.000 We're so fucked. 1.00

01:51:54.000 It's gonna get bad. 1.00

01:51:55.000 It will get bad.

01:51:56.000 I think it's gonna get really good, too.

01:51:58.000 I think it's at the same time.

01:52:00.000 Yeah, that is true.

01:52:01.000 I think it's gonna get weird, and it's gonna get really good.

01:52:04.000 I'm very optimistic.

01:52:06.000 You know, a lot of the most...

01:52:10.000 I don't know.

01:52:10.000 A lot of the most informative stuff that I learn each and every day are from my boy that is in college right now, Harry.

01:52:20.000 Yeah.

01:52:20.000 And actually, I think he's in charge of his science club social media.

01:52:30.000 I forget the Instagram.

01:52:33.000 You'll have to look it up, Jamie, but I think it's like Simpson Chemistry Club or something, but every week he posts different chem facts, like chemistry facts.

01:52:48.000 Science is crazy.

01:52:50.000 If you're someone who doesn't really study it, there's a lot of ridiculous information out there.

01:52:55.000 You start looking at that and you realize any of the stuff that we're talking about, it's 100% possible.

01:53:02.000 Well, there's...

01:53:03.000 Not every new innovation builds on potential new innovations that branch off of them, and they're always constantly pushing the curve.

01:53:11.000 It's like they're not staying stagnant in any industry.

01:53:14.000 There's nothing where technologically everybody's stagnant, whether it's automobiles.

01:53:20.000 They're getting better and better every day.

01:53:22.000 Computers, better and better every day.

01:53:23.000 Phones, better and better every day.

01:53:25.000 TVs, better and better.

01:53:26.000 It's just never ending.

01:53:27.000 It's not.

01:53:28.000 They are on this constant state of innovation and progression that is really stunning to watch because we're almost like watching some cascade of complexity that is reaching some infinite point.

01:53:43.000 The newest, latest HTC vibes, these virtual reality goggles that you put on, they're just letting you know, hey, this is the future.

01:53:54.000 The future is Other realities in pill form.

01:53:57.000 Other realities you're going to be able to put your hand on a building.

01:54:00.000 It's going to send you into another dimension.

01:54:03.000 I mean, these are really real things that are going to happen.

01:54:06.000 Real matrix.

01:54:07.000 Real matrix.

01:54:07.000 Like real matrix.

01:54:08.000 Within 50 years.

01:54:10.000 Within 50 years.

01:54:11.000 Do you think it'll desensitize I mean, they say video games.

01:54:16.000 Well, back in our day, they said music, right?

01:54:20.000 Music was what desensitized people.

01:54:23.000 Yes.

01:54:23.000 Right?

01:54:24.000 That's the basis of...

01:54:25.000 Now they say video games.

01:54:27.000 Even Donald Trump recently said video games are causing violence, which is like, come on, man.

01:54:32.000 I don't know if it's causing violence, but I would certainly think that people desensitize to blood and gore.

01:54:42.000 Yes.

01:54:42.000 Because, I mean, back when we were, well, you would have been before me, but...

01:54:51.000 Like, I don't know, Grand Theft Auto.

01:54:53.000 It was a little bit after my time.

01:54:55.000 Like, for me, it was Mortal Kombat.

01:54:57.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:58.000 The adult population couldn't stand Mortal Kombat because you ripped someone's spine out and held it up in the air.

01:55:05.000 What was it called?

01:55:08.000 I was thinking you'd talk about that, though.

01:55:10.000 Instead of being desensitized, aren't they just not sensitive enough yet because they haven't been even exposed to it?

01:55:16.000 You're right.

01:55:16.000 That's a better way of describing it.

01:55:17.000 The people you're saying were mad about Mortal Kombat lived through Vietnam.

01:55:19.000 They saw all of that and we didn't as kids.

01:55:22.000 You're 100% correct.

01:55:24.000 Powerful young Jamie.

01:55:25.000 Good point.

01:55:26.000 That's a very good point.

01:55:28.000 That's a super good point because that's really exactly what's happening.

01:55:32.000 You know, they're not experiencing real violence.

01:55:35.000 And maybe that's the answer.

01:55:36.000 Maybe it's like a real understanding of what real violence is would make you more respectful of real violence.

01:55:44.000 So the more disconnected we are with real violence, the more almost this cartoonish expression of violence as being an alternative for being bored.

01:55:55.000 Being an alternative for being, like, bullied or tortured.

01:55:58.000 Like, instead of something to be avoided, it's like your last hurrah before you exit this life.

01:56:04.000 Like, you've flipped over the board game.

01:56:06.000 You've pulled the plug out on the video game.

01:56:08.000 And this is what, like, extreme violence is.

01:56:11.000 It seems to be more of that maybe even than anything.

01:56:16.000 Definitely could be.

01:56:17.000 I mean, you know, my boy is, uh, he's going to school to be a vet.

01:56:25.000 And he's been, you know, he's able to look at, luckily he works for a veterinary clinic in our town, and he's personally been there for surgeries and he's been there for several years, so he's seen a lot of things.

01:56:41.000 But the doctors were originally telling them, you know, hey, if you feel a little bit sensitive to this or if you feel like you might pass out, let us know.

01:56:51.000 But, you know, Harry has been with me through a big portion of, you know...

01:57:02.000 We're good to go.

01:57:25.000 So they were a little bit surprised by the fact that he understood all that, but I think because he's experienced that, he did understand it.

01:57:35.000 Oh, for sure.

01:57:37.000 I mean, he's experiencing it in a real-life scenario versus in a video or in a book.

01:57:43.000 There's no way to learn life from a video or a book.

01:57:46.000 What you can do is get exposed to ideas that will intrigue you and you want to have those experiences.

01:57:51.000 But there's just a giant difference. 0.95

01:57:53.000 It's like the difference between watching porn and having sex. 0.87

01:57:57.000 It literally is, right? 0.97

01:57:59.000 I mean, that's the perfect example.

01:58:01.000 Yeah, it actually is.

01:58:02.000 It is the perfect example.

01:58:03.000 I will say that.

01:58:04.000 You have to experience things.

01:58:06.000 And until you do, you don't know.

01:58:08.000 And we're always battling for people to take us seriously.

01:58:12.000 We're always battling for our position in the social food chain.

01:58:15.000 And all that clouds the way we communicate with each other, too.

01:58:19.000 I think we just have to get way better at this.

01:58:21.000 And I think we're operating on some...

01:58:23.000 We're in like this weird snake-shedding-of-the-skin stage. 1.00

01:58:28.000 We've just got to shake off all the stupid shit that was invented by slave owners. 1.00

01:58:33.000 All the dumb shit that's been, like, involved in our system from the beginning. 1.00

01:58:39.000 We have to realize, like, no one knows what the fuck's going on. 1.00

01:58:42.000 We have to look at everything for what it really is. 0.96

01:58:44.000 And forget about the past.

01:58:46.000 What can we do right now?

01:58:47.000 What can we do right now?

01:58:49.000 Do you think it's like a lot of things in life where you really, really like something and you almost go too far?

01:58:57.000 And then in the end you think, okay, we've gone maybe a little bit too far.

01:59:01.000 We're going to back things off.

01:59:02.000 Do you think that's the truth in what we're doing right now?

01:59:05.000 Do you think we're almost becoming...

01:59:09.000 We're good to go.

01:59:12.000 We're good to go.

01:59:29.000 It was in a Starbucks, and it said there was a bathroom that said any sex, and there was a male, a woman, and a guy in a wheelchair.

01:59:37.000 And I'm like, since when is a person in a wheelchair a sex? 1.00

01:59:45.000 It's almost like they're afraid to put something on the door.

01:59:51.000 To where they just make it as broad as possible.

01:59:55.000 Right.

01:59:55.000 And it's like, you know, we have to have some lines.

02:00:01.000 Otherwise, it's just nothing but gray.

02:00:04.000 Well, here's the thing, man.

02:00:06.000 I think all this is in response to the idea that men and women are competing against each other. 1.00

02:00:10.000 I think that's where we've got to cut the shit. 0.99

02:00:12.000 I think if this idea that, like, There's no doubt that you need women and you need men. 1.00

02:00:25.000 We need humans, right?

02:00:27.000 We need each other.

02:00:28.000 So we've got to figure out, like, why is everybody so hung up on gender?

02:00:31.000 Is there an imbalance?

02:00:33.000 And whatever that imbalance is, it's got to be corrected.

02:00:36.000 But it's got to be corrected honorably, and it's got to be corrected openly.

02:00:42.000 Honestly.

02:00:43.000 We have to be nice to each other.

02:00:44.000 All of us.

02:00:45.000 We like each other.

02:00:46.000 Girls like boys.

02:00:47.000 Boys like girls.

02:00:48.000 That's how it's always been. 0.97

02:00:49.000 And any aberrations of that can really fuck your head up, but I think they're more aberrations than they are the norm.

02:00:55.000 And I think we have to figure out how to make those aberrations lesser and lesser.

02:00:59.000 And no one's concentrating on that.

02:01:01.000 Instead, they're concentrating on boys versus girls.

02:01:03.000 And I think that's crazy.

02:01:04.000 It's like, if you only like men, I can't hang out with you, dude. 1.00

02:01:08.000 You're going to say some fucked up shit about women, and I'm going to go, that's my daughter, that's my sister, that's my mom. 1.00

02:01:13.000 You can't do that. 1.00

02:01:15.000 This idea that we're on a team, and we're on team dicks, and team vaginas trying to fucking... 1.00

02:01:20.000 DLR gold. 1.00

02:01:22.000 This is stupid. 1.00

02:01:23.000 It's stupid. 1.00

02:01:24.000 It's stupid. 1.00

02:01:25.000 We can't do that anymore. 1.00

02:01:26.000 Just like we can't do team white people, right? 0.91

02:01:29.000 That's not good either. 1.00

02:01:30.000 It's not good team fucking beige people. 0.99

02:01:33.000 If you're all beige people, all beige people who speak Spanish, get on a team. 1.00

02:01:37.000 Come on.

02:01:38.000 What are we doing? 1.00

02:01:39.000 This is dumb. 1.00

02:01:40.000 It's all the same. 1.00

02:01:41.000 Whether it's sexual orientation, whether it's gay, straight, whether it's black, white, male, female...

02:01:48.000 English, Italian.

02:01:50.000 People.

02:01:50.000 That's it.

02:01:51.000 People.

02:01:51.000 Nice people.

02:01:52.000 Interesting people.

02:01:53.000 Different people.

02:01:54.000 We have to learn that we're in a global community.

02:01:56.000 Like, we really have to figure it out. 0.99

02:01:58.000 And we're closer and closer than we've ever been before, but along the way we're gonna get ridiculous shit. 1.00

02:02:03.000 We're gonna get, like, people that are completely overreacting, and all men are sexist, and all men are rapists, and all sex with a penis and a vagina is rape! 1.00

02:02:12.000 There's a lot of that going on right now, but those are the echoes of the farest reaches of the idea. 0.99

02:02:18.000 And then that idea will pull back into the middle, and then the general consensus will be established.

02:02:23.000 That's what people do.

02:02:25.000 Did I ever tell you about the time I went to India?

02:02:28.000 No.

02:02:29.000 I didn't.

02:02:30.000 I don't think so.

02:02:31.000 I went to India for just short of a month for coaching.

02:02:36.000 Oh, you did tell me this.

02:02:38.000 Yep.

02:02:38.000 Oh, now I remember.

02:02:40.000 Yeah, it's a pretty good story, but the first part was I wanted to try to blend in.

02:02:45.000 I'd never been to a third world.

02:02:47.000 Good luck.

02:02:48.000 Giant man in America.

02:02:50.000 You're a giant in America.

02:02:53.000 Dude, we take pictures together.

02:02:55.000 It's cute. 0.64

02:02:56.000 I'm looking up at your armpits.

02:02:58.000 So you're giant for a place that doesn't have giant people.

02:03:02.000 I told him, I said, I'll come down and coach.

02:03:05.000 I'll work for a month.

02:03:06.000 But I said, you know, I was more worried about my safety than anything.

02:03:09.000 So I said, I'll come down, but, you know, I really want to have a good flight.

02:03:16.000 You know, I was going a long way.

02:03:18.000 I said, I want to, if I'm on the train, because I knew I had about a four-hour train ride, I said, I want first class, you know, start to finish.

02:03:26.000 And I don't want to sound like a prima donna, but I also knew that I was going to a third world country.

02:03:32.000 So asking for first class doesn't necessarily mean first class here.

02:03:39.000 So anyway, first class meant that my seats on my train had vinyl covering on there.

02:03:48.000 So, I flew into my airport, got off the train, I was trying to blend in, had some old blue jeans on, gray shirt, literally stepped off, and it was like the DJ freaking scratched the record from like song 5 to song 1. It was like...

02:04:08.000 And literally every single, like a sea of people that were two feet shorter than me just literally stopped.

02:04:16.000 Train stopped.

02:04:17.000 Everything stopped. 0.96

02:04:19.000 Everyone looked at the six and a half foot dude standing in this Indian frickin' train depot. 1.00

02:04:28.000 And I thought, alright, so I'm gonna... 0.89

02:04:32.000 So much for blending in.

02:04:34.000 I went up to the first class train lounge, which was pretty much a train lounge that had seats.

02:04:43.000 Went up there, made friends with the cockroach that was in the bathroom.

02:04:50.000 Yeah.

02:05:13.000 There were two dead bodies, and they put the dead bodies on the floor of the aisle between the people.

02:05:20.000 So our seats had vinyl on there, the first class.

02:05:25.000 The non-first class did not.

02:05:27.000 I remember at one point I looked back in...

02:05:32.000 There was two dead bodies that had sheets over them.

02:05:35.000 And then in the far back of the train, like where the trains connect, there was actually an Indian guy that was squatting down pretty much...

02:05:47.000 Ripping his dong backwards so that he could take a leak in between the trains.

02:05:53.000 He opened the door and he was squatting down, letting one rip between the trains.

02:06:00.000 I was sitting there thinking, oh man, I've got 20 days left here.

02:06:07.000 But...

02:06:09.000 In saying that, once I got to where I was, they were probably the best students I've ever had because they were the most disciplined.

02:06:19.000 Every one of those students wanted to get out of that lifestyle and they saw that being a national level shooter was going to get them out of that lifestyle.

02:06:31.000 So every single thing I taught them, they took it to a level that was far beyond what most people here would ever, ever, ever do.

02:06:42.000 Did they build as well?

02:06:44.000 Did they build bows?

02:06:45.000 Did you teach them how to do all that stuff?

02:06:47.000 Dude, their peeps, some of the people on their national team, their peep sight, which is the small little circle that's in your bowstring that allows you to kind of...

02:06:58.000 It's almost like, if you can imagine a rifle, you have a rear sight and a front sight, so the peep sight is in your string, it's a circle, and it's your rear sight, and then you align it with the front sight.

02:07:11.000 Theirs was made out of wood.

02:07:14.000 They would have a stick with a hole drilled in it, and they would put that in their string.

02:07:18.000 Wow.

02:07:19.000 So imagine someone like that and you're there giving them instruction and every single thing you tell them to do, they'll do it to the 10th degree because they want out.

02:07:32.000 I mean, it was extreme motivation because I felt like everything that I was doing from a training point of view was inadequate to what they were doing.

02:07:41.000 The only difference was they didn't have the education that we had.

02:07:46.000 They were disconnected.

02:07:48.000 I remember I would actually have to go to an internet cafe and I'd have to pay for five minutes of internet, like dial up internet to call Sharon.

02:08:02.000 So, I mean, you look at people that are like that, they want it at a level that's so far beyond what a lot of...

02:08:10.000 I mean, we're just floating in the gravy over here.

02:08:13.000 I mean, it's true.

02:08:15.000 It's a great way to put it.

02:08:16.000 It's true.

02:08:16.000 It's totally true.

02:08:17.000 You know, you look at some of the people...

02:08:20.000 I was a keynote speaker at an international coaching convention in Brazil before the Olympics there.

02:08:30.000 And you go down there and you realize some of these people are – they want it way more than the people that have it easy.

02:08:42.000 That's always the case though, right?

02:08:43.000 Yeah, that's the case.

02:08:44.000 That's the people that are hungry are the ones that are really struggling to make it.

02:08:50.000 And that's what gets tough, is learning to stay on top when you have it easy.

02:08:58.000 When there's people that are literally investing every single day and getting to that point.

02:09:06.000 Yeah, that's the fuel, right?

02:09:08.000 That's one of the weird things, is very few people who grow up with some crazy...

02:09:18.000 Well, it's a big problem, I think.

02:09:20.000 It's a giant problem.

02:09:21.000 I think it's a big problem.

02:09:22.000 It's a giant problem with those people.

02:09:24.000 Anybody that grows up in that scenario, where you are never really taught the value of accomplishing things, and that it's not just about securing your fate, it's also about Managing your consciousness and accomplishing things is good for you.

02:09:41.000 And you can't think it's not.

02:09:42.000 You have to just accept it and learn it and think of it as a sort of a growing experience.

02:09:47.000 And if you don't do that, you're not gonna grow. 1.00

02:09:50.000 And if you don't grow, you're gonna be fucked. 1.00

02:09:51.000 You're gonna be fucked whether you're rich or you're poor. 1.00

02:09:53.000 You're missing the thing. 1.00

02:09:54.000 The thing is not how many zeros and ones you collect.

02:09:58.000 That's not the thing.

02:09:59.000 The thing is like, how well do you feel while you're going through it?

02:10:04.000 And if you're doing it wrong, you've got to figure out what it is.

02:10:07.000 Well, obviously, having a million dollars in the bank is not doing it right.

02:10:10.000 If the dude's still taking pills and he's super depressed, it's not the money.

02:10:14.000 So what is it?

02:10:14.000 What's the thing?

02:10:15.000 And you and I have both met a lot of people in that category.

02:10:19.000 I think everybody you talk to.

02:10:22.000 It's hard.

02:10:23.000 Life is hard.

02:10:24.000 There's a lot of people that have fallen into that category.

02:10:27.000 And it could have been me.

02:10:29.000 It easily could have.

02:10:29.000 I had different scenarios, different circumstances, different parents, you know, different neighborhood I grew up in.

02:10:35.000 And it can go wrong. 1.00

02:10:37.000 You can go down the dark road and all of a sudden you're fucked. 0.99

02:10:42.000 That's the case for all of us. 0.99

02:10:45.000 I feel a lot of people look at me as an archer.

02:10:50.000 I've made a very, very good career.

02:10:54.000 I couldn't possibly have made it better, I don't think, for shooting a bow for a living.

02:10:59.000 I don't think I could have made it better.

02:11:02.000 And there's definitely archers that are better than me.

02:11:06.000 I never claim to be the best.

02:11:07.000 I just claim to be the one that is willing to share the most.

02:11:12.000 I don't claim that I have the most natural talent.

02:11:16.000 I just feel like I'm willing to share the most.

02:11:21.000 But I don't know.

02:11:23.000 I also feel like there's this part of me that feels...

02:11:31.000 Like if I didn't, even though I don't have necessarily talent, the fact that I am willing to share it, I think it takes it to a different level because I don't know if I've ever shared this with you.

02:11:44.000 Do you know about my past as a kid?

02:11:47.000 Yeah, you told me a lot of different things about you burning your house down accidentally.

02:11:52.000 I did.

02:11:53.000 Okay.

02:11:54.000 Yeah, so a big part of why I actually joined sports to begin with, because originally I was a skater.

02:12:01.000 I liked to skate, and I wasn't really into organized sports.

02:12:07.000 Well, I think the craziest thing is you abandoning football.

02:12:11.000 Yeah.

02:12:12.000 Well, but before that, the reason I got into football is because my dad was such a great athlete that, you know, I played with matches and took it too far, ended up burning my house down.

02:12:27.000 Literally had nothing.

02:12:29.000 My mom was in Puerto Rico on a business trip.

02:12:33.000 My dad was at work.

02:12:34.000 Burned her house to the ground.

02:12:37.000 I remember being there when my family was sifting through ashes, literally, trying to find something to salvage from our history as a family.

02:12:47.000 Wow.

02:12:49.000 And my dad was such a stellar athlete that I felt like the only thing I could do to really make him proud of me at that point was become a good athlete.

02:13:00.000 So I focused on becoming a good athlete.

02:13:04.000 And that was my drive.

02:13:06.000 It wasn't because I really liked it.

02:13:09.000 It was because of guilt.

02:13:12.000 It was because I really felt like the only thing I could do to make my dad, who was a military guy, someone who had definitely earned his street creds, I felt like the only thing I could do was become this great athlete,

02:13:30.000 which he was, in order to earn his respect and kind of did that in order to make up for the fact that You know, I had this one moment as an adolescent where I literally burned down every single thing our family ever had. 0.97

02:13:48.000 Holy shit. 0.99

02:13:50.000 Man. 0.99

02:13:51.000 I mean, imagine right now when we're done with this podcast, you get a call and you realize your house was on fire.

02:13:59.000 And it's different now because we have phones, but imagine we don't have phones.

02:14:07.000 Every single picture you have of your family, every single one is gone.

02:14:15.000 Every single thing that maybe someone signed for you in the UFC is gone.

02:14:23.000 Your black belt that you got from Eddie is burned. 0.99

02:14:27.000 It's gone.

02:14:28.000 That's gone.

02:14:31.000 Every single thing from right now until you were born is gone.

02:14:39.000 That's what my parents lost, and it was because of me.

02:14:43.000 But you know what, man?

02:14:45.000 They didn't lose you.

02:14:46.000 I think ultimately, the difference between you making a mistake and burning the house down, which is horrific, or you dying, that's the big difference.

02:14:54.000 Like, everything worked out.

02:14:55.000 Look, here you are.

02:14:56.000 Everything's great.

02:14:57.000 Well, and that's what was great about my dad was the fact that once that moment happened, my mom and my dad have never, ever brought that up.

02:15:07.000 They've never held that over me.

02:15:10.000 It's been me from the outside looking in thinking they've never mentioned this because they know that I feel so bad about it.

02:15:18.000 But me being...

02:15:22.000 Competitive as an athlete was because I wanted to make my dad proud from that aspect.

02:15:28.000 And literally that competitive drive as a football player and track or whatever else, that fed the archery side.

02:15:39.000 Because when I went to my archery tournament for the first time and I sucked at it, I was naturally competitive and really wanted to be better at it.

02:15:49.000 That wasn't because of the fire, but that was just because of a principle that competitive sports put in me.

02:16:01.000 It's crazy how all these little pieces...

02:16:16.000 I'm not big on...

02:16:22.000 Kind of feeding in or buying into negativity at all.

02:16:26.000 But there was some negativity that I heard from other shooters that are shooting now and shooting currently saying, you know, why is this guy...

02:16:37.000 Why is this guy popular?

02:16:39.000 Why is he successful?

02:16:40.000 He's not even shooting right now.

02:16:41.000 He's not even competing. 0.99

02:16:45.000 Dirty green monster. 0.96

02:16:48.000 Envy. 0.99

02:16:49.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:16:51.000 Why does John Dudley get all the attention?

02:16:53.000 Yeah, and I've been pretty...

02:16:59.000 Are you going to do Gollum again?

02:17:01.000 You did that on the last podcast.

02:17:03.000 That's not Gollum.

02:17:04.000 It's pretty good though.

02:17:06.000 I don't know.

02:17:07.000 I feel like these people that feed on the negativity, they don't understand that all these little things that have happened are building blocks.

02:17:16.000 And I want to use it as motivation to the people out there.

02:17:23.000 Not everyone has a perfect picture.

02:17:25.000 You know, people see where maybe you and I are now, but they don't realize we also had huge hurdles before we got here.

02:17:35.000 And it's how you address those, you know, and how you take adversity.

02:17:42.000 That's really who defines you.

02:17:44.000 And it's a really, really good opportunity for you to set a precedence of I had hardship.

02:17:52.000 I made over it.

02:17:54.000 And, you know, you can become inspiration for people by having that obstacle and then overcoming it.

02:18:03.000 Yeah, well, I think that's the big point is that we all learn from each other.

02:18:05.000 I mean, I've most certainly learned from you telling me about your struggles as well as I have from most of my friends that tell me about their struggles or things that I've read about or things that I've seen in documentaries.

02:18:16.000 We learn from each other and you get a...

02:18:19.000 I think we're all accumulating data as far as how the world works, what's the best way to behave, and what's the best way to live.

02:18:26.000 And we're all in the middle of accumulating all this data.

02:18:29.000 We're all taking it in from each other, and we've got to be open to it.

02:18:32.000 You've got to be open to taking it from... 0.97

02:18:35.000 Even, like, although it seems kind of corny sometimes, like, I will read some shit by The Rock, or I will watch a Kevin Hart Instagram video, and I get fucking fired up! 0.95

02:18:45.000 I'm like, I'm gonna go do this, man! 0.78

02:18:46.000 I mean, if it's not Jocko saying good, or if it's not just...

02:18:50.000 That was dope.

02:18:51.000 Or when I think about that David Goggins podcast that I did.

02:18:55.000 Very good.

02:18:56.000 Dude, I think about Goggins, I'm like, Jesus Christ.

02:18:58.000 Yeah.

02:18:59.000 I just, I can't even understand that kind of mental intensity.

02:19:03.000 He was freaking me out, man.

02:19:06.000 He was freaking me out in the most impressive way.

02:19:08.000 Like, I just, I'm like, he was 100%.

02:19:10.000 Like, I was 100% seriously ready to die on a foot race. 0.97

02:19:14.000 He's ready to die. 0.88

02:19:15.000 100%.

02:19:16.000 He's looking at, he's not lying at all.

02:19:18.000 There's no part of it.

02:19:19.000 I agree.

02:19:20.000 He's taking it to the dark lands.

02:19:22.000 He's going to take you to the dark lands.

02:19:23.000 Will you follow?

02:19:25.000 Will you follow him to the dark lands? 1.00

02:19:27.000 Damn those seals. 1.00

02:19:29.000 Andy does the same, but he took us to the dark land in the tequila universe. 0.99

02:19:35.000 Yeah, well, he'll do it with everything.

02:19:37.000 He's an animal.

02:19:38.000 But those people.

02:19:40.000 And it expresses itself differently in all these different exceptional people.

02:19:44.000 Like Jocko is different than Tim Kennedy.

02:19:47.000 Tim Kennedy is different than Andy.

02:19:49.000 They're all different, but also all incredibly exceptional.

02:19:53.000 There's something that they give off.

02:19:55.000 I like that, though.

02:19:56.000 When you talked about the exception among the exceptional.

02:19:59.000 Yeah.

02:20:00.000 That's what I think he called it, David Goggins called it, uncommon amongst uncommon people.

02:20:06.000 That's true.

02:20:07.000 Yeah, that is very, very true. 0.98

02:20:10.000 That's the Kobe Bryant of killing people right there.

02:20:18.000 I mean, I read this thing about Kobe Bryant the other day. 0.56

02:20:20.000 I was just reading.

02:20:20.000 I don't know anything about basketball, okay?

02:20:23.000 And I always refer to Jamie.

02:20:26.000 How many halftimes is there in basketball?

02:20:28.000 I have zero idea.

02:20:29.000 I don't know how long it takes.

02:20:30.000 It could take a day.

02:20:31.000 How many quarters?

02:20:32.000 I have no idea.

02:20:33.000 I would imagine if you say quarters, I'd say there's four of them.

02:20:36.000 If you see how many periods, I don't know.

02:20:38.000 How many halftimes? 0.97

02:20:39.000 But I was reading all the stuff about his high school coach saying that they would get there and he would be shooting baskets in the dark because they hadn't even turned the lights on yet.

02:20:49.000 He'd be there an hour, two hours before everybody.

02:20:52.000 That he would show up at these practices.

02:20:54.000 Everybody would be at breakfast and he would show up with ice on his knees and he was fully sweated out.

02:21:00.000 Like he'd just done three hours of working out before anybody did anything.

02:21:04.000 There's people like that, man, and you can hate on them.

02:21:08.000 You can hate on them.

02:21:09.000 You can decide that it's not worth it, but the best thing you can do is acknowledge they're doing something that makes you feel funny.

02:21:17.000 And that makes you feel funny is your sense of understanding who you are.

02:21:22.000 It's testing.

02:21:23.000 It's testing how you feel about yourself.

02:21:25.000 It's testing how you feel about your place in the universe.

02:21:28.000 It's testing it. 0.99

02:21:29.000 You don't want to know that there's some crazy Kobe Bryant motherfucker getting up at four in the morning, you know, doing deadlifts. 1.00

02:21:35.000 Like, shit! 1.00

02:21:36.000 I want to sleep! 1.00

02:21:37.000 But I also want to be number one, bro!

02:21:41.000 Former Lakers player and head coach Byron Scott said he once found an 18-year-old Bryant shooting in a dark gym two hours before practice.

02:21:50.000 I used to do that, but it was throwing footballs.

02:21:53.000 Throwing footballs into a...

02:21:55.000 It was actually into the laundry baskets.

02:21:58.000 It's not uncommon, man.

02:21:59.000 It's not uncommon.

02:22:01.000 It's the same with archery.

02:22:03.000 I mean, you know, my sleeping hours are super...

02:22:07.000 Super regular.

02:22:08.000 There's times where I feel like practicing or a lot of times you'll probably get up in the morning and I've already built your bow and I built it at four or five in the morning because to people that are the exceptional among their field, they can't sleep if they know that they have to do something.

02:22:28.000 What are we looking at, Jamie?

02:22:29.000 As you guys are talking about this, he just tore his Achilles.

02:22:32.000 This is probably one of those last things he did.

02:22:33.000 He tore his Achilles, but in order, this is like a rule in the game, he had to shoot his free throws.

02:22:38.000 It's a weird stipulation.

02:22:40.000 So he's walking back out with no Achilles, and he does this.

02:22:44.000 It was pretty impressive.

02:22:45.000 Wow, he can barely walk, man. 1.00

02:22:48.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:22:49.000 No crying or nothing. 1.00

02:22:52.000 Yeah, well, that's how you have to be if you want to be a winner.

02:22:55.000 There's just no way around it.

02:22:57.000 Swish! 0.91

02:22:58.000 Holla! 1.00

02:22:59.000 That's why I get the money!

02:23:00.000 Holla! 1.00

02:23:01.000 Look at my mansion!

02:23:03.000 At that point, it's just subconscious taking over.

02:23:07.000 Anybody that doesn't think that someone like Kobe Bryant doesn't deserve a mansion...

02:23:11.000 And all the money he has does not understand what he just did.

02:23:14.000 Two swishes in a row with no Achilles. 1.00

02:23:17.000 Just shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:23:18.000 I don't know shit about basketball. 1.00

02:23:19.000 I know that was amazing. 0.80

02:23:21.000 I've been pretty...

02:23:22.000 I've actually been pretty stuck on this subject in the last few weeks.

02:23:30.000 I hardly ever, ever, ever look at negativity.

02:23:35.000 I mean, I really don't read it, don't look at it, but there was a really big archery tournament about a month ago, and there were some other pros that had made some comments about me just saying, you know,

02:23:51.000 how is John Dudley on a GRE podcast?

02:23:54.000 He's not even competing.

02:23:55.000 He's not even doing anything.

02:23:57.000 And People wanted to know how I felt about that.

02:24:02.000 And I said, the reality is there's several archers out there that have 10 times the talent in me.

02:24:10.000 No question.

02:24:11.000 I'm not saying that I have that.

02:24:14.000 But what really is shitty about that situation is when someone has 10 times more talent than me and they do a tenth as much.

02:24:24.000 To me, that's a big problem.

02:24:26.000 So you think there's a lot of people out there that are not realizing their full potential, so because of that they're critical of other people because maybe even they're looking at their own self and they feel like they're not maximizing their time?

02:24:38.000 I don't know.

02:24:39.000 I think they're looking at...

02:24:41.000 The problem is...

02:24:42.000 Because the people do do that, right?

02:24:43.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:24:45.000 You limit yourself when you are not looking at what you're doing.

02:24:51.000 When you're so occupied on what someone else is doing, you limit what your true talent is.

02:24:57.000 So is that my problem?

02:24:59.000 Is it my problem that you have ten times the talent of me, but I'm doing ten times more with it?

02:25:05.000 Is that my problem?

02:25:07.000 Those are big numbers.

02:25:08.000 Okay, let's say two times.

02:25:10.000 Okay.

02:25:11.000 Okay, let's say you have twice a natural talent.

02:25:16.000 You have more, but you're doing less.

02:25:18.000 Right.

02:25:19.000 Yeah, I know what you're saying.

02:25:20.000 I just feel like...

02:25:21.000 There's a lot of people doing that, right?

02:25:22.000 Yeah.

02:25:23.000 I actually think the majority.

02:25:26.000 I think the people that are standouts are people that...

02:25:30.000 Don't have the natural, true talent.

02:25:34.000 I think Jon Jones is a perfect example.

02:25:37.000 If he was able to literally 100% maximize his talent, how good could he be?

02:25:45.000 The problem is, he's the one that has ten times the talent, but he's screwing it up.

02:25:52.000 And there's guys that have half the talent that are bigger stars because they're actually doing it the right way.

02:26:00.000 And they're maximizing.

02:26:01.000 They're almost doubling their potential because they're...

02:26:07.000 Working at it in the right fashion versus someone that has the true talent isn't really maximizing their talent.

02:26:16.000 I know what you're saying.

02:26:17.000 Yeah.

02:26:18.000 But I think here's a good sign.

02:26:20.000 Here's a really good sign.

02:26:21.000 This is an easy way to decipher it.

02:26:23.000 When you see someone complaining about someone else's success, Anytime you see that, anytime you see someone complaining about someone else's success and possibly equating it to some injustice in the world because they don't have equal success,

02:26:39.000 the person's making a mistake.

02:26:41.000 They're making a mistake in even the way they're thinking.

02:26:43.000 If you criticize something because you just think it's bad, well, that's certainly your prerogative.

02:26:48.000 Especially if it's an art form or if it's something someone's created.

02:26:53.000 That's one thing.

02:26:54.000 But if you're upset that someone's success, that doesn't make any sense.

02:26:59.000 Well, they wanted to be successful.

02:27:01.000 They did the thing that it took to be successful.

02:27:04.000 They became successful.

02:27:05.000 And what's your point?

02:27:07.000 You don't have a point.

02:27:08.000 Your point is, why not me?

02:27:10.000 It's the little kids' version of, what about me?

02:27:12.000 What about me?

02:27:13.000 Well, it's not fair.

02:27:15.000 It's not fair that some people are born billionaires.

02:27:18.000 It's not fair.

02:27:19.000 It's not fair that some people are born with birth defects where they don't have feet. 1.00

02:27:23.000 It's not fair that some people, their fucking brain doesn't work as well as yours. 1.00

02:27:27.000 There's a lot of shit that's not fair. 1.00

02:27:29.000 Yep. 1.00

02:27:29.000 Look at what you got. 1.00

02:27:30.000 Look at what you got.

02:27:31.000 You're doing well, and you're worried about someone else who's doing better.

02:27:35.000 Why not just look at them?

02:27:37.000 Why not just look at them and go, what is that guy doing different?

02:27:40.000 What is she doing different than me? 0.92

02:27:41.000 How come she's so much more successful?

02:27:43.000 How did he figure out how to do that?

02:27:45.000 Look at it that way.

02:27:46.000 Don't look at it like you're angry at those people. 1.00

02:27:48.000 That shit is wasted. 1.00

02:27:49.000 It doesn't do you any good. 1.00

02:27:51.000 It does zero good for anybody involved.

02:27:53.000 Not you, not the person you're trying to figure out why. 1.00

02:27:56.000 What is this fucking guy doing? 1.00

02:27:58.000 That shit is just bad for you. 1.00

02:27:59.000 It's bad for everybody. 1.00

02:28:01.000 It's bad for the person thinking negatively.

02:28:03.000 It's bad for everybody around them.

02:28:05.000 The best way to do is like, huh.

02:28:08.000 Like even if you're not even hateful about it, like, here's a good example. 0.93

02:28:11.000 Like if a movie is fucking giant in the box office, like, wow. 0.99

02:28:15.000 I thought it sucked. 0.99

02:28:16.000 I didn't like it. 0.97

02:28:18.000 Or whatever. 0.99

02:28:19.000 But if you freak out, how's the fuck in that movie? 0.99

02:28:22.000 Jumanji? 1.00

02:28:22.000 Are you fucking shitting me, bro? 1.00

02:28:24.000 Jumanji? 1.00

02:28:25.000 That fucking piece of shit? 1.00

02:28:26.000 You know, people get crazy. 1.00

02:28:28.000 They get crazy. 1.00

02:28:28.000 That guy made $800 million for fucking Jumanji? 1.00

02:28:34.000 It's not good for you, man. 0.99

02:28:35.000 You gotta let that go.

02:28:36.000 Don't worry about Jumanji.

02:28:38.000 Worry about yourself.

02:28:39.000 Did you watch Jumanji?

02:28:40.000 It's pretty good.

02:28:41.000 I saw it twice.

02:28:42.000 I haven't seen it yet.

02:28:43.000 I have little kids, man.

02:28:44.000 I haven't seen it yet.

02:28:45.000 It's pretty good.

02:28:46.000 I thought it was very good.

02:28:48.000 It's really well done.

02:28:49.000 It's a good point, though.

02:28:50.000 Kevin Hart and The Rock together, you can't miss.

02:28:52.000 Jack Black in one of the best performances in years.

02:28:54.000 And whoever was the hot redhead chick, she was great, too. 1.00

02:28:57.000 I like Tropic Thunder, though.

02:28:59.000 I think Jack Black was good in Tropic Thunder.

02:29:00.000 Jamie's got one of those Farrah Fawcett posters with that chick. 1.00

02:29:03.000 I just looked something up weird.

02:29:04.000 It's not as sort of related.

02:29:05.000 The Jurassic World, did you see that movie when it came out a couple years ago?

02:29:08.000 Yes.

02:29:08.000 It's the number three all-time grossing movie.

02:29:11.000 Thank God.

02:29:11.000 What?

02:29:12.000 Are you kidding me? 1.00

02:29:13.000 Hey, fuck the Godfather. 1.00

02:29:15.000 Chris Pratt, if you want archery lessons... 1.00

02:29:18.000 Legitimate.

02:29:18.000 I bet he does.

02:29:19.000 I bet he does.

02:29:20.000 Legitimate.

02:29:21.000 You know, did you see that Instagram post that he put up of his sheep or lamb that he killed?

02:29:26.000 He had a pet lamb. 0.93

02:29:28.000 Put a bolt to its head and, you know, and chopped it all up and people freaked the fuck out. 0.57

02:29:33.000 They're like, this is our food. 0.98

02:29:34.000 I didn't see that.

02:29:35.000 You didn't see it? 0.99

02:29:36.000 Dude, Chris Pratt's got some balls. 0.98

02:29:37.000 I saw him post a picture of a rub on a tree. 0.99

02:29:41.000 Oh, he hunts.

02:29:42.000 And he said something about trolls.

02:29:45.000 Yo, what's up?

02:29:46.000 Chris Pratt here, another 2018. What's that?

02:29:50.000 This is like a rap.

02:29:51.000 He's rapping.

02:29:52.000 Yeah, that sounds like a...

02:29:53.000 Is this a new album?

02:29:55.000 No.

02:29:55.000 Pratt rap?

02:29:56.000 He does, though.

02:29:58.000 Go to his...

02:29:59.000 That's not it.

02:30:01.000 There's a video where he shows the lamb that he's actually taken apart.

02:30:06.000 This is it.

02:30:06.000 It says lamb's son.

02:30:07.000 Is this it?

02:30:09.000 In the video it says it?

02:30:18.000 What I meant is their photographs. 1.00

02:30:20.000 There's actually photographs of the butchered lamb, and people lost their fucking shit, man. 1.00

02:30:25.000 That's not it. 0.99

02:30:26.000 There's actually photographs of the meat, and there's a roast, and the roast is...

02:30:31.000 There it is, right, the one in the middle.

02:30:33.000 That's legitimate.

02:30:35.000 I don't know if that's necessarily the lamb that came from his...

02:30:40.000 I'm assuming it is.

02:30:41.000 I would say it is.

02:30:41.000 It has to be.

02:30:42.000 Sounds like it.

02:30:43.000 It says, look at all this glorious food.

02:30:45.000 We will eat off him for a month.

02:30:48.000 His wool is becoming yarn as we speak.

02:30:50.000 He lived a very good life.

02:30:51.000 He was groomed and shorn.

02:30:53.000 His hooves medicated, dewormed, and no antibiotics necessary.

02:30:58.000 Surrounded by laughing and loving humans, including children to whom they provided such joy.

02:31:04.000 Nuzzled pet and loved every day.

02:31:06.000 No stressful travel to his final destination.

02:31:08.000 Trauma-free.

02:31:09.000 Just a touch of a USDA-certified wand to his head.

02:31:14.000 And he goes to sleep.

02:31:16.000 The other sheep don't even notice.

02:31:18.000 It's like unplugging a TV. Then Waka. 0.92

02:31:22.000 Waka. 0.52

02:31:23.000 He's got a butcher named Waka.

02:31:24.000 Waka, my butcher.

02:31:26.000 Waka Flocka. 0.93

02:31:27.000 Side job.

02:31:28.000 Then Waka.

02:31:29.000 I think that's a rapper.

02:31:30.000 It is, definitely. 0.98

02:31:31.000 You're so white. 0.94

02:31:33.000 Waka, my butcher, works his magic. 0.98

02:31:37.000 You're definitely white. 0.98

02:31:37.000 Right now, the meat is for friends, family, and gifts. 0.98

02:31:41.000 Soon, though, it may be available to my followers as we test recipes and open up to market.

02:31:46.000 Oh, my God.

02:31:46.000 He's going to murder animals for a living.

02:31:49.000 Gotta get some things dialed in first, including murder. 0.97

02:31:54.000 Murder of sheep.

02:31:56.000 Just kidding.

02:31:57.000 Look, I eat meat.

02:31:59.000 That looks glorious.

02:32:02.000 Think of the balls in the sky.

02:32:03.000 When has an A-list actor ever considered opening up a meat shop and showed a photo on his Instagram of the honest procurement of meat in an honest way?

02:32:16.000 Did you see that post I made today?

02:32:19.000 No, which one?

02:32:20.000 I have my airplane mode on, so I can't post it.

02:32:23.000 But I think I made a post.

02:32:26.000 It was a Google search that I did.

02:32:30.000 There was 21 independent, legitimate scientists that found that if you ate 50 grams of processed meat per day, your chance of cancer was 18% higher. 1.00

02:32:47.000 Holy shit. 0.99

02:32:50.000 Just think of that number. 1.00

02:32:52.000 Now, is it nitrites?

02:32:53.000 What is it?

02:32:54.000 What do they think it's causing that?

02:32:55.000 Well, I mean, yeah.

02:32:57.000 Preservatives?

02:32:58.000 That part wasn't clearly defined, but I would definitely think it was preservative-based.

02:33:03.000 They don't really know, though, right?

02:33:05.000 They know it's processed meat.

02:33:06.000 It's really dangerous.

02:33:08.000 Yeah.

02:33:08.000 They don't know what it is exactly, specifically.

02:33:10.000 But that's what's...

02:33:11.000 Awesome about how you and I hunt.

02:33:13.000 I posted it specifically to actually some Axis backstraps from Hawaii last year.

02:33:21.000 Because I think it's maybe...

02:33:26.000 Ignorant for people to automatically make a post saying, you know, you're a killer just because you post a picture of, you know, free-range organic meat that you decide to choose to touch. 0.96

02:33:40.000 You've got to look at it. 0.99

02:33:41.000 I know what you're saying, but you've got to look at it from their perspective, too.

02:33:43.000 I do.

02:33:44.000 Even if they're not right.

02:33:45.000 And there's no right here.

02:33:47.000 The thing is, they're right and you're right.

02:33:50.000 It's everybody's right. 0.95

02:33:51.000 That's really what's fucked up about it. 0.99

02:33:53.000 Like, an animal does have to die. 0.99

02:33:55.000 You know, that is a fact.

02:33:57.000 I agree.

02:33:58.000 And that does bother people, including you and me, when it happens.

02:34:01.000 Yeah, people don't realize that, but that is true. 1.00

02:34:03.000 They don't.

02:34:04.000 But the understanding, at the end of the day, is that this is the cycle of life.

02:34:10.000 And this is what life is really all about.

02:34:12.000 So they're right and you're right.

02:34:13.000 But this whole, this expression of outrage, like, you should be expressing that at Burger King.

02:34:18.000 You should be, and not Burger King.

02:34:21.000 Just, you know, I'm not singling them out.

02:34:24.000 Anybody that has fast food, which I've eaten many times.

02:34:27.000 If you want to live in a society of 20 million people, you're going to have to live in a place, most likely with this model, where you've got In-N-Out Burger.

02:34:34.000 And I like In-N-Out Burger.

02:34:35.000 I like them.

02:34:36.000 They taste good.

02:34:37.000 We went there.

02:34:37.000 We went there in Vegas.

02:34:38.000 They're goddamn good, right? 0.99

02:34:40.000 It's hard to beat. 0.98

02:34:42.000 I don't necessarily hate those things, but you have to understand what all this really is.

02:34:48.000 The whole thing is crazy.

02:34:50.000 You're here for a very short period of time, as are these animals.

02:34:53.000 All of us are trying to stay alive.

02:34:55.000 All of us are freaking out when other things get eaten, and we're all just going like, well, I just want to be the best version of me I can be.

02:35:02.000 You're right and they're right.

02:35:04.000 They just, they haven't experienced what, they have decided that an animal should not die.

02:35:10.000 There's no way an animal should die so they can live.

02:35:13.000 And if they can live that way, that's their choice.

02:35:15.000 They're welcome to that choice.

02:35:17.000 They just don't understand the merit of your choice.

02:35:20.000 The merit of your choice is Just diametrically opposed to what they think should be and should not be a thing a person does.

02:35:28.000 You shouldn't be a person that kills animals.

02:35:30.000 But when you're engulfed in that world, when you're living in the woods, when you're going through these seven, eight, nine, ten day hunts, you get this understanding of what this world around these things really is.

02:35:43.000 It's this crazy, beautiful, complex interaction between predator and prey.

02:35:48.000 And it's been going on since life was here.

02:35:51.000 Just what it is. 0.99

02:35:52.000 And what you're doing as a hunter is just figuring out with your soft, bitch-ass skin and your fucking shaky knees, bad ankles, and you're weaseling yourself into a position where you can jump into the food chain with wolves around. 0.99

02:36:06.000 That fucking conversation that we had about wolves, dude, that changed people's understanding of what a wolf is. 0.99

02:36:13.000 On the first time you came on the podcast, you talked about how the wolves were trying to take your elk away from you. 0.99

02:36:17.000 Dude, that's a crazy story!

02:36:19.000 Yeah, I mean...

02:36:20.000 That's one of my all-time favorite stories!

02:36:22.000 Yeah, they're...

02:36:22.000 I mean...

02:36:25.000 There's an interaction going on.

02:36:27.000 Predator and prey.

02:36:28.000 It's happening whether you like it or not.

02:36:30.000 The whole food chain, it's not like it's established and it's written in stone.

02:36:35.000 Every level of the food chain is being competitive with the next.

02:36:40.000 It's not like it is a very clear-cut, concrete step to where every step is clear.

02:36:47.000 Humans are here.

02:36:48.000 Wolves are here.

02:36:49.000 Grizzlies are here. 1.00

02:36:51.000 Axis deer are here.

02:36:52.000 Turkeys are here.

02:36:53.000 And I would inject one other thing.

02:36:55.000 CWD. Chronic wasting disease is killing deer left and right.

02:36:59.000 All of a sudden biology comes into this thing.

02:37:01.000 Diseases.

02:37:02.000 Diseases are creeping in and killing deer left and right.

02:37:05.000 And a lot of people feel like these diseases were created by people farming those deer.

02:37:11.000 Taking them out of the wild environments and letting them eat off the same food and constantly exchange bacteria with each other.

02:37:20.000 And that's what created this thing.

02:37:21.000 I've told people many times that I feel like Mother Nature is a form of karma.

02:37:27.000 I think Mother Nature will take care of herself. 1.00

02:37:31.000 I think as things below that level try to occupy their own status, I think...

02:37:41.000 That's the balance.

02:37:42.000 That's a check.

02:37:43.000 That's in process.

02:37:45.000 I think if you decide, I'm not going to shoot any turkeys. 0.99

02:37:50.000 I'm going to just let these turkeys go as wild as they can.

02:37:54.000 I think all of a sudden Mother Nature comes in and says...

02:37:58.000 I'm going to throw a little trump card in here called Blackhead's Disease. 0.95

02:38:03.000 This is going to kill every freaking turkey in your area, and I'm going to regulate this. 0.95

02:38:09.000 Isn't that fascinating that that always happens? 0.97

02:38:11.000 Yeah.

02:38:12.000 When animals get over it, and that's one of the things they're concerned about in Hawaii, right?

02:38:17.000 Yep.

02:38:18.000 And then you look at whitetail in areas where maybe there's been, you know, I guess quote-unquote trophy hunters to where they've not really...

02:38:31.000 I guess, regulated the population of whitetail deer to the point where they're trying to grow trophy hunting.

02:38:39.000 So you mean they're trying to grow deer with large antlers?

02:38:42.000 Yeah, larger antlers, so they're maybe shooting less numbers, and then all of a sudden, here comes this little thing called EHD, which kills every whitetail that goes to drink water.

02:38:52.000 What does that stand for?

02:38:53.000 I don't know what it is.

02:38:54.000 CWD is chronic wasting disease.

02:38:56.000 Yeah, EHD is different.

02:38:58.000 It's a midge that actually lives in the mud on the receding water line on a pond.

02:39:05.000 So as a whitetail deer would go in to actually drink.

02:39:11.000 This midge fly lives in the soil on the receding waterline and it would go into the nostril of the deer and then literally within 48 hours that deer is dead if it gets that virus.

02:39:28.000 Look at the name of it.

02:39:32.000 Epizootic hemorrhagic disease.

02:39:34.000 So it's like an Ebola type disease.

02:39:37.000 I think Ebola is a hemorrhagic disease.

02:39:41.000 Do I have to pee so hard?

02:39:43.000 Me too.

02:39:44.000 I've never had to pee more in my life.

02:39:45.000 This is awesome.

02:39:47.000 Did I pee before the show?

02:39:49.000 The difference between wolves and coyotes.

02:39:51.000 I saw that picture.

02:39:52.000 That's an amazing picture. 1.00

02:39:53.000 Somebody got a picture between this majestic black wolf with fucking white glowing eyes. 0.99

02:39:58.000 That wolf looks amazing. 1.00

02:40:01.000 These two coyotes are like, fuck all this. 1.00

02:40:05.000 We gotta get away from that thing, man. 1.00

02:40:07.000 That is so different.

02:40:08.000 How do we go from EHD to two coyotes running from a black wolf?

02:40:11.000 How do we concentrate on that?

02:40:13.000 What's that?

02:40:14.000 Do you think you guys could talk for a few minutes while I pee?

02:40:17.000 Go for it.

02:40:18.000 Keep it together.

02:40:19.000 Talk about sports.

02:40:21.000 Sports?

02:40:23.000 Alright, Jamie.

02:40:25.000 Well, yeah, I mean...

02:40:26.000 Is this the first official podcast where Rogan's had to actually...

02:40:30.000 This is probably like the second or third time in the last couple months.

02:40:34.000 Yes.

02:40:35.000 It's not a knock-on podcast.

02:40:37.000 Flex that.

02:40:38.000 Yep.

02:40:40.000 No, this is pretty epic right here to make Rogan actually go.

02:40:45.000 It means he's consumed more than he's talked.

02:40:48.000 That's pretty powerful.

02:40:49.000 That happens from time to time.

02:40:51.000 I know.

02:40:52.000 I like that sweatshirt.

02:40:54.000 Jamie's actually told me earlier he's trying to make a profession out of video gaming.

02:40:59.000 I wouldn't know about a profession, but I stream from time to time on Twitch, which is an interesting thing.

02:41:05.000 You said your son does it a little bit, or he looks at it and watches it?

02:41:08.000 Well, I used to play quite a bit.

02:41:11.000 We had two accounts.

02:41:12.000 One was Death by Dudley on PlayStation, and the other one was Bald Hairless Yeti.

02:41:20.000 Are you playing with them?

02:41:22.000 At times, we did.

02:41:24.000 Yeah, we were big Modern Warfare guys.

02:41:27.000 We really liked that.

02:41:29.000 And actually, I met several cool dudes during that online play.

02:41:38.000 Honestly, I felt like if I was a competitive archer and I would have been online prior to my competition, I feel like I almost could have helped some of my performance anxiety.

02:41:55.000 When it comes to competition, because there's so many...

02:41:58.000 You get so into beating the guy that you're going against that you can almost freak out and you don't do things according to a systematic method, which is really all a video game is.

02:42:13.000 It's...

02:42:14.000 If you follow the systematic method, you can overcome the algorithm, right?

02:42:20.000 For sure, yeah, yeah.

02:42:22.000 Thank the baby Jesus effect!

02:42:26.000 Here he comes.

02:42:27.000 That was rough.

02:42:28.000 That was one of those...

02:42:31.000 I gotta go now.

02:42:32.000 Go ahead.

02:42:33.000 No worries.

02:42:33.000 What are you going to talk about?

02:42:34.000 Whatever you talked about.

02:42:36.000 Video games.

02:42:37.000 Let's hear this.

02:42:37.000 Jamie's going to give you a review.

02:42:38.000 Let's hear this.

02:42:39.000 I had to pee so hard.

02:42:41.000 That was crazy.

02:42:41.000 I was really worried.

02:42:43.000 I talked about my two online video gaming accounts with my little dude, Harry.

02:42:49.000 One was Death by Dudley, and the other one was Bald Hairless Yeti.

02:42:54.000 What do you play?

02:42:56.000 Mainly modern warfare stuff.

02:42:59.000 Oh, yeah.

02:42:59.000 Anything that you kill someone, sadly enough.

02:43:03.000 Go get your urine on. 0.99

02:43:05.000 Me and young Jamie will talk about the implications of that.

02:43:08.000 Let's hear about this.

02:43:08.000 What is this?

02:43:10.000 What is it about these people?

02:43:11.000 How come I have three coffees?

02:43:13.000 That's not good.

02:43:14.000 That's a lot of caffeine.

02:43:15.000 Thank God you got that whiskey to dumb it down.

02:43:18.000 Balance is perfect.

02:43:20.000 Yeah, you'd be talking out of control.

02:43:24.000 This is one of the drunker podcasts.

02:43:27.000 One of them, right?

02:43:29.000 But there's something fun about getting together with a really good friend, just getting lit up, smoke a little weed, drink a little whiskey, and just have a good time.

02:43:38.000 Just have a good time.

02:43:39.000 Today's been a good time.

02:43:41.000 That guy's a good guy. 0.99

02:43:43.000 John Dudley's a fucking good man. 0.98

02:43:45.000 I love that guy. 0.98

02:43:46.000 He's fun.

02:43:48.000 He's also a master at something that's very difficult to do.

02:43:52.000 He's a master not just at executing archery, but instructing it, teaching people.

02:43:58.000 It's a fascinating thing, that archery, man.

02:44:01.000 To me, it's super important.

02:44:03.000 I think everybody goes through these things where what's important to them.

02:44:07.000 To you, it might be a guitar amp.

02:44:09.000 It might be certain drums or drumsticks. 0.99

02:44:13.000 It might be whatever the fuck you're into. 0.99

02:44:17.000 That might be important to you. 0.99

02:44:19.000 But archery, I think, is one of those things that most people miss.

02:44:24.000 You just don't get a chance at it.

02:44:26.000 You're like, ah, that looks good.

02:44:27.000 That looks like it would be fun, but you don't know where to go.

02:44:29.000 And you never do it.

02:44:31.000 By far, most people.

02:44:33.000 But once you do do it, you realize like, oh, I can learn about life through this weird thing.

02:44:39.000 I'm pulling that string back and I'm launching a pointed stick at a target and I'm learning about myself.

02:44:44.000 Like, what?

02:44:46.000 I'm learning about how I deal with situations where I have to execute correctly under pressure.

02:44:53.000 Even if it's just the minor pressure of hitting a target or the major pressure of hitting an animal. 1.00

02:44:58.000 You learn through that shit, Jamie. 1.00

02:45:01.000 What are you showing me? 1.00

02:45:02.000 There's this game.

02:45:03.000 I feel like I showed this to you a while ago, but this is called The Hunter Call of the Wild.

02:45:09.000 Should we tell people?

02:45:10.000 This is the actual archery part of it.

02:45:11.000 Should we tell? 0.99

02:45:11.000 Oh, damn, that's a compound bow. 0.99

02:45:13.000 That dude's got a real bow. 1.00

02:45:14.000 Why does he go sideways like he's gangsta?

02:45:16.000 It's probably so you can see.

02:45:17.000 I bet he, once you pull it up to aim.

02:45:18.000 He better.

02:45:19.000 He better pull it back.

02:45:21.000 Oh, there he goes.

02:45:22.000 Wow, that's legit.

02:45:23.000 Look at this. 0.98

02:45:24.000 John Dudley, there's a goddamn archery video game where a guy's pulling back a bow and looking through a sight like you would like a real compound bow sight. 0.99

02:45:32.000 That's amazing. 0.99

02:45:34.000 With the whisker biscuit.

02:45:36.000 Powerful whisker biscuit.

02:45:37.000 A lot of people still rock it.

02:45:40.000 A lot of people still rock the biscuit.

02:45:42.000 What is this about?

02:45:43.000 I wish the biscuit was infallible.

02:45:45.000 I wish it was the way to go.

02:45:47.000 It seems so easy.

02:45:48.000 I just hate the name.

02:45:50.000 Biscor biscuit?

02:45:51.000 I mean, I don't hate it, but it's definitely provocative.

02:45:55.000 People don't know what we're talking about.

02:45:56.000 It's an archery rest.

02:45:58.000 Some people do.

02:46:00.000 Most people don't.

02:46:01.000 Most people listening to this podcast probably don't.

02:46:03.000 It's a type of archery rest where the arrow sits. 0.60

02:46:05.000 It's very controversial.

02:46:06.000 This is how geeky archery is.

02:46:08.000 It's very controversial.

02:46:10.000 Should you have some fine mesh that sort of cradles the arrow and the fletchings will pass through that fine mesh, possibly knocking down how many feet per second?

02:46:20.000 Five?

02:46:22.000 Five feet?

02:46:23.000 Possibly.

02:46:23.000 Three to five?

02:46:24.000 Scientific.

02:46:25.000 I don't do that.

02:46:26.000 So we'll be real conservative in, say, three.

02:46:32.000 Three feet a second.

02:46:33.000 It probably knocks off more than that.

02:46:35.000 But some people like it because of its simplicity.

02:46:37.000 There it is.

02:46:37.000 That's a whisker biscuit.

02:46:39.000 And the fletchings will pass through those fine fibers.

02:46:42.000 Slow it down a little bit, but not too much.

02:46:44.000 That's literally like training wheels for your arrow.

02:46:48.000 What John Dudley believes in is like this...

02:46:52.000 Crazy drop-away type thing where they have an arrow rest that drops down.

02:46:56.000 He even makes his own arrow rest.

02:46:57.000 Yep.

02:46:58.000 Knock-on arrow rest.

02:47:00.000 It's on all my bows.

02:47:02.000 It is.

02:47:03.000 The knock-on elevate. 1.00

02:47:04.000 It's the shit. 1.00

02:47:05.000 Joe, I've got a subject I want to talk to you about. 1.00

02:47:08.000 I've never talked to you about this.

02:47:09.000 Uh-oh.

02:47:12.000 So, a bunch of my US team members are going to shoot me in the face for talking about this.

02:47:18.000 Why? 0.96

02:47:19.000 In the face?

02:47:19.000 Yeah, literally in the face.

02:47:22.000 Because one thing that was an ongoing thing when I was on the US team, there was this thing that went on about how long we could go at a tournament before we talked about this particular person.

02:47:38.000 So during my time on the teams, we actually had a person that was, she claimed to have a medical disorder, or she didn't actually claim to have it, but supposedly it happens.

02:47:53.000 But she claimed to have a disorder where she had attachment to items.

02:47:58.000 This girl that was on my team actually ended up marrying the Eiffel Tower.

02:48:05.000 Are you serious?

02:48:05.000 I'm not kidding.

02:48:07.000 Wait a minute, she had an attachment to things, meaning like a love interest in buildings?

02:48:12.000 Yeah, she actually filed some claims against, supposedly filed some claims against a bow company that this bow company actually had a rubber laminate on the limbs of the bow.

02:48:29.000 The woman with objects finished Mary's Eiffel Tower.

02:48:33.000 Is that her?

02:48:35.000 Wow.

02:48:36.000 She married Paris' famous monument.

02:48:38.000 I rode in many buses with Aya.

02:48:41.000 You rode with her?

02:48:42.000 Aya, yeah.

02:48:43.000 Oh my god.

02:48:45.000 She's a former soldier who lives in San Francisco.

02:48:47.000 She has been in love with objects before.

02:48:49.000 Her first infatuation was with Lance, a bow that helped her become a world-class archer.

02:48:56.000 She is fond of the Berlin Wall, and she claims to have a physical relationship with a piece of fence she keeps in her bedroom.

02:49:06.000 What are we doing?

02:49:07.000 What are we doing, people?

02:49:10.000 We can't do this.

02:49:14.000 We've gotten too crazy.

02:49:17.000 We've got to pull back.

02:49:19.000 We've got to pull back. 1.00

02:49:21.000 We can't marry a fucking bridge. 1.00

02:49:24.000 This bitch married a bridge? 1.00

02:49:25.000 She married a Brooklyn Bridge? 1.00

02:49:26.000 No, she married the Eiffel Tower. 1.00

02:49:28.000 This bitch is marrying a bridge, though. 1.00

02:49:30.000 She's kissing bridges. 1.00

02:49:36.000 What? 1.00

02:49:36.000 What the fuck did she just say? 1.00

02:49:38.000 Being in love for the public object. 1.00

02:49:41.000 Crank that up. 0.99

02:49:42.000 I want to hear this crazy lady. 1.00

02:49:45.000 I feel very, very blessed to have a piece of my sweet Golden Gate Bridge. 0.95

02:49:51.000 Oh, Jesus, stop.

02:49:52.000 I give up.

02:49:53.000 I'm out.

02:49:55.000 I hung in there as long as I could. 1.00

02:49:58.000 This bitch's love for the bridge. 1.00

02:49:59.000 Hey! 1.00

02:50:01.000 Where's your dad?

02:50:02.000 Wait.

02:50:04.000 In the middle of all this, there's a lot of people like me that have shot tens and tens and tens of thousands of arrows trying to win a medal for their country.

02:50:15.000 Right, but that's different.

02:50:16.000 You're chasing an accomplishment. 0.99

02:50:17.000 You're not fucking a bridge. 1.00

02:50:18.000 That lady's trying to fuck a bridge. 1.00

02:50:20.000 Meanwhile, she's on her team bus. 1.00

02:50:24.000 She literally... 1.00

02:50:27.000 She slept with her beau one night at an event and then got an infection from the silicone on the limbs and the rest of the team had to deal with this problem.

02:50:41.000 When you say infection...

02:50:43.000 I don't know where the infection was, but I would imagine...

02:50:46.000 Oh, no.

02:50:48.000 She's put a hat on the boat.

02:50:49.000 I'm going to step away from the mic.

02:50:51.000 Listen.

02:50:53.000 But, hey, how good was she as an archer?

02:50:57.000 Jamie, this is pretty rare. 1.00

02:50:59.000 You're a son of a bitch. 1.00

02:50:59.000 He's actually like... 1.00

02:51:00.000 Jamie loves it. 1.00

02:51:01.000 Son of a bitch. 1.00

02:51:02.000 Look at him. 1.00

02:51:02.000 Son of a bitch. 1.00

02:51:04.000 How good was she as an archer? 1.00

02:51:06.000 She must have been very good.

02:51:08.000 She was on the team, right?

02:51:09.000 Oh, she's putting a hat on the bow. 0.56

02:51:11.000 Not a good sign.

02:51:13.000 Actually looked like a potholder.

02:51:15.000 But she must have been like a world-class archer, right?

02:51:18.000 Don't do it.

02:51:19.000 Don't do it to me, John Dudley.

02:51:20.000 I would say decent.

02:51:24.000 Good archer.

02:51:25.000 Decent.

02:51:26.000 Decent.

02:51:27.000 Decent is good.

02:51:28.000 Here's the thing.

02:51:29.000 Okay.

02:51:30.000 So she married the Eiffel Tower.

02:51:32.000 How'd that work out?

02:51:35.000 I think she's still married to it.

02:51:36.000 French people were pissed. 1.00

02:51:37.000 This is true.

02:51:38.000 This is 100% true.

02:51:41.000 French people are pissed. 1.00

02:51:42.000 Yeah.

02:51:43.000 Because American just goes over there, gets his fiancée visa, marries the Tower, right? 0.99

02:51:49.000 So now we got a dual citizenship.

02:51:53.000 Meanwhile, she's got this thing for the Berlin Wall. 0.99

02:51:58.000 Yeah.

02:51:58.000 Okay, well the Berlin Wall's a flirt, first of all.

02:52:01.000 The Berlin Wall is always like being real sweet and giving you those extra long hugs. 0.98

02:52:08.000 The Berlin Wall fucking asked for it. 0.98

02:52:11.000 Jamie cannot. 0.99

02:52:12.000 Of course she's in love with the Berlin Wall.

02:52:14.000 Who's not?

02:52:15.000 I got a better question for you.

02:52:17.000 She's married to Eiffel though, so here's the deal.

02:52:19.000 Listen to this.

02:52:20.000 I want Joe to listen to this.

02:52:22.000 Okay, let me hear it.

02:52:24.000 I mean, I just randomly picked a spot.

02:52:26.000 Her last name is Eiffel, though.

02:52:29.000 She literally took the legal name. 0.85

02:52:33.000 Her name originally was Isla Bree, and I had to travel with her, but now it's Aya Eiffel.

02:52:41.000 Jamie, I have to send you something that someone sent me today that I sent to Brian Callen.

02:52:47.000 I'm going to send you it in two seconds.

02:52:50.000 If that's legal, who did that?

02:52:51.000 The thing about France...

02:52:53.000 France moves to...

02:52:54.000 You could probably Google it.

02:52:56.000 France moves...

02:52:57.000 It's on NPR, so it's legit.

02:53:00.000 France moves to make 15 the legal age of consent for sex.

02:53:05.000 And it's because a bunch of dudes got in trouble for having sex with 11-year-olds.

02:53:11.000 What? 0.89

02:53:11.000 Yeah. 0.89

02:53:12.000 We were talking about Roman...

02:53:13.000 No, no, look at that.

02:53:15.000 France moves to make age 15 the legal age of consent for sex.

02:53:19.000 Like, whoa!

02:53:20.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:53:23.000 There's parts of the world that are just not where we are right now.

02:53:27.000 Nope.

02:53:28.000 They're just not.

02:53:30.000 You don't look at that like, who's saying this?

02:53:33.000 Who's saying 15?

02:53:36.000 What?

02:53:37.000 15 for what?

02:53:38.000 An 80-year-old? 1.00

02:53:39.000 An 80-year-old can fuck a 15-year-old? 1.00

02:53:41.000 Is that what you just said? 1.00

02:53:42.000 I'll kill you. 1.00

02:53:43.000 I will fucking kill you. 1.00

02:53:45.000 In France, as long as violence, coercion, threat, or surprise is not proven, sexual intercourse with a minor, even one under 15, I will put a trypan right through that guy's face. 1.00

02:54:13.000 Not even blink. 0.92

02:54:14.000 This is a correction necessary.

02:54:17.000 You have a cultural issue.

02:54:19.000 That's a cultural issue.

02:54:20.000 Correction necessary. 1.00

02:54:22.000 No, you can't fuck ten-year-olds. 1.00

02:54:24.000 If anyone has a problem with guys that are... 1.00

02:54:29.000 I guess.

02:54:30.000 But that's...

02:54:31.000 Hunters? 1.00

02:54:32.000 Like, idiots like this? 1.00

02:54:35.000 That's terrifying. 1.00

02:54:36.000 That is.

02:54:37.000 That's terrible, but I think that...

02:54:38.000 Terrifying.

02:54:39.000 I think this is what happens with people, man.

02:54:41.000 I think people get caught up in whatever the other people around them are doing.

02:54:47.000 And there's this weird mob mentality.

02:54:49.000 I think that's how war happens. 0.63

02:54:51.000 That's the craziest thing I've seen in a long... 0.97

02:54:53.000 I mean, that's ridiculous. 0.95

02:54:55.000 And it's today. 0.92

02:54:57.000 2018. March.

02:54:59.000 2018. While we're talking, this is on the news.

02:55:01.000 As of happening right now in Europe, they go, well, alright, let's make it illegal to fuck 14-year-olds. 0.99

02:55:09.000 Like, what? 0.99

02:55:10.000 You don't have that already on the books? 1.00

02:55:14.000 You could fuck a nine-year-old over there, right? 1.00

02:55:16.000 How old do they have to be? 1.00

02:55:18.000 Is there an age limit at all? 1.00

02:55:20.000 Or is it just, oh, he fucked a baby. 1.00

02:55:22.000 Bonjour. 1.00

02:55:24.000 Bonjour, sorry.

02:55:26.000 Merci.

02:55:28.000 That made my stomach turn.

02:55:29.000 Is there a year?

02:55:29.000 It should make your stomach turn.

02:55:31.000 It does.

02:55:32.000 But here's the thing.

02:55:32.000 If you pay attention to history, or if you read anything about the atrocities that have gone on forever...

02:55:37.000 Why don't we learn from history, though?

02:55:40.000 We have learned a little.

02:55:41.000 At what point?

02:55:42.000 A little.

02:55:44.000 We're better than we were a hundred years ago, better than we were two hundred years ago, but...

02:55:49.000 In the past, it was like really commonplace.

02:55:52.000 I mean, if you read anything about Socrates or anything about Plato, like that time of the world, like men having sex with children and little boys and stuff was like extremely common.

02:56:04.000 Extremely common.

02:56:06.000 What?

02:56:06.000 Yeah.

02:56:07.000 Yeah, in parts of the world, men having sex with boys was extremely common for humans.

02:56:13.000 Even in like what we would consider like classical, cultural, you know, intelligent civilizations like the ancient Romans, the ancient Greeks.

02:56:23.000 That like was a normal part of life.

02:56:26.000 It's really weird.

02:56:27.000 You know, we want to deny that, but there's undeniable proof that that's a fact.

02:56:33.000 That it was way more common in those ancient cultures than it is today.

02:56:37.000 Like, what is that?

02:56:38.000 Like, how did that happen?

02:56:39.000 Like, why did people allow that?

02:56:41.000 Like, why did that take place?

02:56:43.000 I don't know.

02:56:43.000 I think there's...

02:56:44.000 You freaking out over there, Jamie? 1.00

02:56:44.000 I think some dads need to step up and beat some ass. 1.00

02:56:48.000 Okay. 0.99

02:56:48.000 In 2005, the Cour de Cassation, France's highest criminal court, stipulated that coercion is presumed for children at a very young age, in quotes. 0.99

02:57:01.000 That's an outrageously blurry formulation that in practice has largely been applied to children under six.

02:57:08.000 What?

02:57:09.000 This leaves children above six years old, six, potentially considered not-raped When violence cannot be established, it also allows the state of paralyzed shock experienced by many victims And all the more so children to equal consent.

02:57:30.000 That's terrifying.

02:57:32.000 Who wrote this?

02:57:34.000 Vikings.

02:57:35.000 Barbarians. 0.70

02:57:36.000 Those are barbarians.

02:57:37.000 This is ancient European barbarian law that's in place for thousands of years, and they never caught up.

02:57:45.000 They never refixed it.

02:57:47.000 You gotta fix that.

02:57:48.000 This is crazy.

02:57:49.000 You have the internet.

02:57:50.000 Fix that.

02:57:51.000 That's crazy. 1.00

02:57:52.000 You can have sex with someone under fucking nine or six or whatever the fuck it was. 1.00

02:57:56.000 That's nuts. 1.00

02:57:58.000 Yeah, that's...

02:57:59.000 That's repulsive.

02:58:01.000 This isn't 16-2.

02:58:03.000 This is...

02:58:04.000 2018. Yeah.

02:58:06.000 This is not the time for that.

02:58:08.000 It's amazing that this still exists.

02:58:10.000 That's amazing.

02:58:12.000 In a European, civilized, really exalted culture.

02:58:19.000 Like France?

02:58:20.000 People love France. 1.00

02:58:21.000 It's weird that they fight so passionately about some things, but then they have something so stupid. 1.00

02:58:28.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:58:29.000 I think they're just freer in a lot of ways, which is bad and good at the same time.

02:58:34.000 It's bad in that regard of taking care of children. 1.00

02:58:37.000 I'm like fucking with children's heads sexually, where you're just dooming them to this life of weirdness. 0.99

02:58:44.000 And you're making it legal, so there's no legal recourse. 1.00

02:58:47.000 Some guy got fucked by some old dude when he was six. 0.98

02:58:52.000 That's crazy, and that's real. 0.99

02:58:54.000 Luckily, I don't know anyone that...

02:58:56.000 No, I don't either.

02:58:57.000 He just told me about that.

02:58:59.000 I'm sure it's happening, though. 0.97

02:59:00.000 If that's the law, how the fuck is that the law? 0.94

02:59:05.000 How's that the law? 0.95

02:59:06.000 I have no idea.

02:59:07.000 Who said it?

02:59:07.000 Sounds good to me.

02:59:08.000 Write it down.

02:59:09.000 We started this podcast... 0.99

02:59:12.000 Literally in haunted houses, and now somehow we've come full circle to this crap. 0.99

02:59:19.000 It's the problem, and also the gift. 0.99

02:59:21.000 It is.

02:59:23.000 It's both things.

02:59:24.000 Our guide, when Andy and I went to France...

02:59:28.000 He was an awesome French dude.

02:59:29.000 Tell me about that story because that's an amazing story.

02:59:31.000 It was amazing.

02:59:32.000 You guys went to the French Alps on this unsuccessful bow hunting trip for Tar. 0.98

02:59:38.000 Even though it was a fucking awesome watch. 0.97

02:59:41.000 It was success without... 0.98

02:59:46.000 Well, it was a beautiful experience, probably, right?

02:59:48.000 Yeah, it was awesome.

02:59:50.000 We actually went there, and I think Kill Cliff has a little short film on it.

02:59:56.000 Yeah.

02:59:57.000 I think it's called High Ground.

03:00:00.000 But Andy and I... Andy got into bow hunting because of you.

03:00:04.000 You spurred an interest to shooting a bow.

03:00:08.000 And then, actually, you texted me one time and said, Hey, is it cool if I... Give you a friend of mine's number.

03:00:14.000 I want him to learn archery a little bit better.

03:00:17.000 And so I said, yeah, of course.

03:00:19.000 And actually, you and I had met Andy in Vegas, even though we don't totally remember most of it.

03:00:28.000 So I said, yeah, of course.

03:00:30.000 And then Andy and I became friends.

03:00:32.000 And then we went to France.

03:00:34.000 And then we went on this epic, hard, high-altitude hunt.

03:00:42.000 I was actually introduced to Andy by my friend Tate Fletcher.

03:00:45.000 Tate Fletcher knows him from the CrossFit world.

03:00:48.000 Because Andy, he was somehow or another responsible for something important in the CrossFit world.

03:00:55.000 Some sort of a liaison.

03:00:57.000 I think Andy was there.

03:01:00.000 I don't really know because I haven't asked him about that part.

03:01:03.000 But I know that he has background in it.

03:01:04.000 I think he was there kind of...

03:01:07.000 Towards the beginning of it.

03:01:08.000 I didn't know that's how Tate...

03:01:11.000 Yeah, that's how I met Andy.

03:01:13.000 I met Andy through Tate.

03:01:14.000 That's crazy.

03:01:15.000 Tate knew him, because Tate's big in the CrossFit world.

03:01:17.000 I saw last week Tate actually was following me on a post that I made, and I was like, this is such a small world.

03:01:26.000 He's a great dude.

03:01:27.000 It really is.

03:01:27.000 You love that guy.

03:01:28.000 He's awesome.

03:01:29.000 It really is.

03:01:30.000 He's the Caveman Coffee guy.

03:01:32.000 He's one of the owners.

03:01:33.000 Is he really?

03:01:34.000 Keith Jardine.

03:01:35.000 Yeah.

03:01:36.000 Tate, just so you know.

03:01:38.000 Lacey Mackie.

03:01:41.000 All those beautiful people in New Mexico.

03:01:43.000 Our four nitros.

03:01:44.000 Yeah, that's deadly for a normal-sized person. 1.00

03:01:46.000 Lucky you're a goddamn giant and you'd be dead. 1.00

03:01:48.000 Boy, you wouldn't be able to shut the fuck up. 1.00

03:01:50.000 If you were like, you know, Duncan Trussell-sized, you'd be bouncing off the walls right now. 0.99

03:01:54.000 How big's Duncan?

03:01:57.000 $1.50 maybe?

03:01:58.000 What?

03:01:59.000 He's about $1.50 if I had a guess.

03:02:01.000 Seriously?

03:02:02.000 Yeah.

03:02:02.000 He looks bigger than that.

03:02:03.000 No, he's maybe an inch taller than me.

03:02:09.000 I think he's 5'9", and I think he's more slender.

03:02:13.000 Wow.

03:02:14.000 Yeah.

03:02:15.000 Camera is powerful.

03:02:17.000 Do you ever look at people and go, hmm, how much does that guy weigh?

03:02:19.000 Can I carry him?

03:02:20.000 How far can I carry him?

03:02:21.000 Did you think that when you saw me? 1.00

03:02:23.000 I said, this fucking dude, if he blacks out, we better have an ambulance that can get up to him. 1.00

03:02:28.000 I'm not carrying his big ass. 1.00

03:02:30.000 You would if it meant something. 1.00

03:02:32.000 If I had to.

03:02:34.000 What's the heaviest load you've ever carried on your back?

03:02:36.000 If you've been packing out an animal, if you had to guess...

03:02:41.000 Definitely a moose.

03:02:43.000 Did you have a whole quarter?

03:02:45.000 I think I had a quarter and a head.

03:02:49.000 How much is that?

03:02:50.000 I don't know.

03:02:50.000 You have to have someone help you get it up there to where you can get weight, you know, get that weight over the top of your legs.

03:02:59.000 Dude, a moose quarter is fucking heavy. 0.99

03:03:03.000 I shot a young moose. 0.99

03:03:05.000 It was not a very big moose.

03:03:07.000 It was a forked moose.

03:03:09.000 A moose?

03:03:11.000 Yeah, it was a youngin in British Columbia with... 0.51

03:03:18.000 Powerful Ben O'Brien.

03:03:19.000 Yeah, and Mike Hawkins.

03:03:21.000 You guys were right where I bear hunt.

03:03:23.000 Yeah, that's when I met Ben.

03:03:25.000 You were in Quenell.

03:03:26.000 As well, right?

03:03:26.000 Yeah, exactly.

03:03:27.000 Which is right south of where I was.

03:03:30.000 We had to take a picture of me carrying that quarter on my shoulders.

03:03:34.000 Cover a magazine.

03:03:36.000 Yeah. 0.73

03:03:36.000 Pimp-ass hoe. 0.73

03:03:37.000 That fucking thing was heavy. 1.00

03:03:38.000 I didn't have to walk with it, though. 1.00

03:03:40.000 I just had to carry it.

03:03:42.000 Like, how long did you have to carry a moose shoulder on your back? 0.55

03:03:46.000 Out of the swamp?

03:03:47.000 What do you mean?

03:03:48.000 How far?

03:03:48.000 How far did you pack it out?

03:03:49.000 Three, four hundred yards?

03:03:51.000 Oh, that's not bad.

03:03:53.000 You know, Remy Warren ruined his body carrying a moose out.

03:03:59.000 I believe it.

03:04:00.000 I think he said it took several days of going back and forth.

03:04:04.000 There were many, many miles in.

03:04:05.000 And so they'd go miles in, grab like 100 pounds of moose meat.

03:04:09.000 A moose, by the way, hey, you might have 700 pounds of meat.

03:04:14.000 See, even if you bone it out, you have seven trips.

03:04:17.000 You know, however many people you have, you have seven individual packages of hundred pounds of meat you gotta get out.

03:04:24.000 Yep. 0.95

03:04:24.000 Through miles and miles and miles of deadfalls and cliffy, rocky fucking, you might get cliffed out, you might take a wrong path. 0.95

03:04:33.000 Yeah, hey CrossFit, what is it, 18.3? 0.97

03:04:38.000 How about throw 200 pounds on your back and literally go from one end of your town to the next?

03:04:47.000 Yeah, when Remy was telling me about it, I was like, that sounds crazy, but like what...

03:04:52.000 Incredible mental fortitude this guy had.

03:04:55.000 Incredible mental fortitude.

03:04:57.000 That he figured out how to get through all the things. 1.00

03:05:01.000 He said, fuck that meat. 1.00

03:05:02.000 I'll leave it back there. 1.00

03:05:03.000 Some coyotes will eat it. 1.00

03:05:04.000 Who cares?

03:05:04.000 It's not going to waste.

03:05:06.000 I'm not going back.

03:05:07.000 It's not worth it.

03:05:08.000 He went back over and over and over again.

03:05:11.000 I want to say it was three or four days of packing out this moose.

03:05:16.000 Yeah, I bet.

03:05:17.000 That's the real Western hunting that people don't understand.

03:05:22.000 They don't understand this.

03:05:23.000 This is not Elmer Fudd with an orange jacket, shoot net deer, you know, hates animals.

03:05:30.000 This is not that.

03:05:30.000 This is some crazy physical endeavor that's highly difficult.

03:05:36.000 You need another one?

03:05:37.000 No, I've got five in a day.

03:05:41.000 It's 270 milligrams of caffeine.

03:05:42.000 You've had more than 1,000 milligrams of caffeine.

03:05:46.000 Perfect.

03:05:47.000 I'm on par.

03:05:48.000 That right there is why hunters are willing to argue with people that slam hunting and say that we're just killers.

03:05:59.000 Because if you had to put 800 packs of your ribeye steak on your back and walk it five miles home, Would you feel more passionate about it? 0.95

03:06:13.000 Well, that would be ridiculous.

03:06:15.000 I would say, let's just do eight trips.

03:06:17.000 Jesus Christ.

03:06:18.000 But it's true.

03:06:19.000 800 pounds on your back?

03:06:20.000 Seems excessive.

03:06:21.000 But it's true.

03:06:22.000 I mean, if you have a moose...

03:06:24.000 But that's not even enough.

03:06:25.000 That's not even enough.

03:06:26.000 I don't think to really complete the cycle.

03:06:28.000 I think you'd have to be there.

03:06:30.000 You either have to be the one who pulls the trigger, or you have to be there when it happens.

03:06:34.000 You have to see what's the difference between a living animal and a dead animal.

03:06:37.000 Because if you don't, then you're formulating your entire picture of the world based on information that you're only getting from a video, right? 0.57

03:06:46.000 It's like when we're talking about the difference between watching porn and having sex. 0.58

03:06:51.000 It's really similar.

03:06:52.000 The difference between understanding this in terms of like watching it on a video and actually being there.

03:06:57.000 Like, oh, this is what it looks like when a cow dies.

03:06:59.000 This is what it looks like when they hang it by its ankles and gut it.

03:07:02.000 This is how I feel about this now.

03:07:04.000 I had one feeling about this before when I was nicely insulated by all the products.

03:07:08.000 Got a nice white styrofoam little tray with saran wrap and a nice piece of ribeye.

03:07:13.000 Oh, look at that! 0.98

03:07:14.000 I'm gonna get the fucking briquettes out there and start the grill. 0.99

03:07:18.000 Woo! 0.99

03:07:19.000 You get all excited.

03:07:20.000 It's not their fault.

03:07:22.000 It's just we are, even through our entire developmental process, we're shielded through one of the most important parts of life.

03:07:30.000 Where's your food come from?

03:07:32.000 It should be like one of the number one things you think of.

03:07:34.000 Where's your family?

03:07:35.000 Are they safe?

03:07:36.000 Where's your food come from?

03:07:37.000 Those are question number one and question number two, right?

03:07:40.000 Yeah.

03:07:40.000 Well, it's a lot like that with the job, too.

03:07:43.000 I mean, we've had people that have come to work for us that are like, okay, this is what working for this business is going to be like.

03:07:50.000 And then they come and they realize, whoa, this is completely different.

03:07:55.000 Whereas I've been the same.

03:07:57.000 I've worked for companies that I've really, really liked.

03:08:01.000 And I go there, and then I realize, holy cow, this is a whole different thing versus what it really, really is.

03:08:11.000 So it gets tough.

03:08:12.000 I mean, you know, it's hard to, and that's why you can't really judge anyone.

03:08:16.000 Because unless you've been in those shoes, it's not really fair to build an assessment.

03:08:25.000 Easy now.

03:08:26.000 It's my first.

03:08:27.000 You're one in.

03:08:28.000 It's my first, bro.

03:08:29.000 Relax.

03:08:29.000 No, you're absolutely right.

03:08:31.000 I mean, there's nothing wrong with letting someone know they're doing something wrong that's negatively affecting others.

03:08:37.000 Yep.

03:08:37.000 That's a good thing.

03:08:39.000 But there's a bigger issue.

03:08:41.000 It's like when people are constantly going after other people and attacking in the most vicious way, Most likely it's because they're trying to divert attention from how they are or that it could come back at them, you know?

03:08:55.000 There's like a weird dance that people do with liking and disliking other people.

03:09:00.000 It's not always healthy, you know?

03:09:02.000 I've been studying this for the longest time, and I still don't understand it totally.

03:09:06.000 I have my vague assessments of how it all is sort of falling into place, but I don't know totally how it's working.

03:09:14.000 But I know that the people that are the most pleasant to be around are the people that are the most friendly, the most understanding, the most objective, and the most just...

03:09:26.000 Just loving.

03:09:27.000 Just nice people.

03:09:28.000 You know, and the friends that we all have, that we know that are like that, those are the fun people that would be around.

03:09:33.000 You know you're going to have a good time.

03:09:34.000 Every time I see you, I know I'm going to have a good time.

03:09:36.000 We never have a bad time.

03:09:37.000 We have fun times.

03:09:38.000 Oh yeah, we definitely do.

03:09:40.000 Isn't that a nice thing?

03:09:42.000 How come that can't be replicated everywhere?

03:09:44.000 I wish it could.

03:09:46.000 I totally wish it could.

03:09:48.000 I feel like...

03:09:50.000 I feel like people that haven't experienced hardship don't appreciate the good times as much.

03:09:58.000 And I feel like, for me anyway, the fact that I've experienced times where I've really struggled and I've had to Either up my game or decide to quit.

03:10:10.000 That's your choice.

03:10:11.000 Either you step up and you work hard enough to where you achieve it, and then at that point you really, really appreciate it.

03:10:21.000 Which is something that I experienced when you talked to me about kettlebells.

03:10:27.000 Okay, well, I'm not good at this, so either I'm not going to be able to relate to Joe or I'm going to learn to do it right.

03:10:32.000 And I ended up going down to Austin because I wanted to experience it a little bit more to where I can appreciate, okay, if Joe's doing a windmill with a frickin' Bigfoot...

03:10:49.000 It looks easy when I watch the YouTube video, but then when I grab a freaking chimp and do it, and I'm struggling to do it without having my shoulder hit me in the side of the face, and then I'm thinking, okay, Joe's doing this now with a Bigfoot. 0.81

03:11:04.000 A Bigfoot's like 92?

03:11:08.000 90?

03:11:08.000 I don't know.

03:11:10.000 Somewhere in the 90s.

03:11:10.000 Let's just say it's a 90-pound kettlebell.

03:11:14.000 You've got to realize that I started out with the 35-pound one, and I struggled with it, but...

03:11:20.000 It's also, I've been doing flexibility exercises since I was a kid.

03:11:24.000 So the windmill's not as difficult for me as a lot of other people.

03:11:27.000 It was actually pretty easy for me to pick up because my body's used to whipping, like everything's kicking. 0.76

03:11:33.000 All that kicking and shit, kicking a lot of it is with your hips. 0.98

03:11:37.000 A lot of it is with your waist and your hips. 0.99

03:11:38.000 When you learn how to like really throw power into things, that's where it all comes from.

03:11:42.000 So the windmill, that's like a natural movement of that.

03:11:44.000 Like those muscles were already conditioned and strengthened.

03:11:47.000 I feel like I'm totally inadequate when I look at you.

03:11:52.000 I do.

03:11:54.000 I mean, I work out every day, but...

03:12:01.000 My physique, I feel like a lot of people look at my physique from a distance and they think, oh, that guy is in really good shape.

03:12:08.000 But then, like, I look at you and sometimes your abdomen protrudes a little bit. 0.97

03:12:14.000 And then I've been in rooms where Joe takes his shirt off and he's like a freaking, he's jacked. 0.98

03:12:21.000 Don't let him fool you. 0.95

03:12:22.000 I work out.

03:12:23.000 Yeah, he works out.

03:12:24.000 I'm not trying to fool people.

03:12:25.000 Yeah.

03:12:26.000 He has a little bit of an abdomen that goes out further than his pecs.

03:12:31.000 I got a little fat.

03:12:32.000 I'm going to be honest with you.

03:12:33.000 I can't even believe you have that skin because... 1.00

03:12:36.000 That's as fat as I've been in my life. 0.85

03:12:38.000 Your six-pack sticks out further than your pec deck. 0.96

03:12:42.000 Yeah.

03:12:44.000 Versus my peck deck. 0.99

03:12:46.000 Well, I'm going to show you some of the shit that I do out here. 0.97

03:12:48.000 We'll do a little working out out here, but one of the things that I've really gotten into is there's like a circuit of a glute hand machine that does your lower back, and then I do these elevated sit-ups, and then I do... 0.97

03:13:01.000 The decompression machine, or...?

03:13:02.000 No, no, no.

03:13:03.000 That's the third one.

03:13:05.000 That's the reverse hyper.

03:13:07.000 That's the third one.

03:13:08.000 But I do this whole series of things that I'm doing for abs.

03:13:13.000 It's tremendous.

03:13:14.000 For abs and back, and the sturdiness of your core.

03:13:18.000 I feel like if I just do these on a regular basis, it makes just a giant difference in how my body moves and how stable I feel.

03:13:26.000 I feel like that's why you're good with archery.

03:13:28.000 It's because your core is so solid.

03:13:30.000 I think it's a really, really good foundation.

03:13:34.000 Another foundation is those club bells.

03:13:36.000 I'm really into those club bells.

03:13:37.000 I do all those shield casts with those clubs.

03:13:40.000 There's something about when you do that, when you're controlling like a 25-pound club, it doesn't seem like a lot of weight, but if you could slowly control that, when you get a bow in your hand and you're trying to level that bow, it's like you have more control over your body.

03:13:53.000 You have better understanding of, you know, all the various speeds that your muscles can move at, where you can just slow it down, slow it down, there it is, there it is, there it is.

03:14:03.000 And I feel like the more you strengthen those muscles, particularly like stabilizing muscles of the shoulders with like reverse kettlebells, you know, upside down kettlebells where the bottom's up.

03:14:13.000 Love those.

03:14:14.000 Those are great because those are even a lightweight.

03:14:17.000 You just do it slow and it's all wiggling.

03:14:19.000 I do those big time.

03:14:20.000 Hammer curls to deltoid full military shoulder press.

03:14:25.000 Phenomenal.

03:14:26.000 With a vertical kettlebell.

03:14:27.000 But don't sleep on those windmills too because it's the same thing.

03:14:31.000 It's all shoulder stability exercise.

03:14:33.000 And flexibility.

03:14:34.000 Yeah.

03:14:34.000 Being able to go to the floor is a big, big aspect.

03:14:37.000 It's huge.

03:14:38.000 It's huge.

03:14:39.000 And it's just, I feel like as long as you don't overdo it, I don't think there's any danger of injuring yourself.

03:14:44.000 I think if you do it correctly, it's actually the opposite.

03:14:47.000 I think it strengthens everything.

03:14:49.000 Strengthens the whole chain from your arms to your shoulders to your core to your hips to your legs.

03:14:55.000 The whole thing gets strengthened because everything has to move.

03:14:57.000 Yep.

03:14:58.000 I went to Onnit Academy, I think, last summer.

03:15:03.000 Sharon and I were down there for...

03:15:06.000 Actually, I think it was September.

03:15:07.000 We were down there for the Hurricane Harvey.

03:15:12.000 We were down there.

03:15:13.000 We raised some...

03:15:14.000 Oh, that's when you were feeding people and everything, too?

03:15:16.000 Yeah.

03:15:17.000 We raised some money.

03:15:17.000 That was very cool of you.

03:15:18.000 That was very cool.

03:15:19.000 Part of that was because of the house fire.

03:15:22.000 I mean, obviously, when...

03:15:24.000 I was someone who lost everything, so I understand where that comes from.

03:15:30.000 I was actually on a hunt with Andy up in Alberta when the hurricane happened, and I was completely disconnected from the news.

03:15:40.000 I got a text from Sharon that just said, you won't believe what's happening down in Houston.

03:15:45.000 So we ended up coming in and I looked it up with Wi-Fi while we were in town.

03:15:52.000 And then I showed Andy and I said, man, this is terrible what's happening down in Texas.

03:15:58.000 So he's like...

03:16:00.000 I wish we could do something.

03:16:02.000 I said, well, I'm gonna.

03:16:03.000 So I just...

03:16:04.000 I ended up going live and offering to auction off my bow during a live feed.

03:16:11.000 And we ended up raising...

03:16:14.000 Thankfully, there were three bidders.

03:16:16.000 I don't know if I can announce who they were, but there were three bidders that bid about 15 grand.

03:16:24.000 I think it was 20...

03:16:28.000 Let me think.

03:16:29.000 It was about $22,000 and then we had one person that offered to match the other two so it ended up getting to be $30,000 that we raised.

03:16:41.000 Went down to Houston and then Crispy who was doing a lot of We're good to go.

03:17:16.000 Crispy and Archery Country filled a full trailer full of supplies, and Sharon and I flew down to Houston.

03:17:25.000 First we flew to Austin, then we drove to Houston and went down to a church where we ended up feeding a lot of people and then delivering all these supplies that we raised with the money that we got from auctioning off this bow.

03:17:41.000 Which I know what it's like to lose everything, so I was pretty adamant about it.

03:17:46.000 That's awesome, man.

03:17:47.000 Yeah, it was dynamite.

03:17:49.000 Super rewarding feeling.

03:17:52.000 I don't know where I'm going with that.

03:17:53.000 Don, listen, man, it's a good story.

03:17:55.000 It's just cool.

03:17:56.000 And I remember watching it online.

03:17:57.000 I'm like, wow, that's badass.

03:18:00.000 And I know how sincere you are about that stuff, too.

03:18:03.000 I think that's a great...

03:18:07.000 Great expression.

03:18:08.000 Great thing to do.

03:18:09.000 You did the same thing for Vegas.

03:18:11.000 I mean, you're passionate about certain things, and we've had a lot of doors open for us from different communities.

03:18:18.000 Texas was a big one for me because I worked for an archery company for many years, and Texas was one of my states as a sales rep.

03:18:27.000 Dude, that's one of the few places I'd live if I didn't live in California.

03:18:30.000 There's a few places I'd live if I wasn't in L.A., I think of Northern California.

03:18:33.000 I think of San Diego.

03:18:35.000 I like San Diego.

03:18:36.000 Colorado, Montana.

03:18:37.000 Yeah, once I get out of California, then I'm like Colorado, Montana.

03:18:42.000 Texas.

03:18:43.000 Texas.

03:18:43.000 Texas is in the mix, baby.

03:18:45.000 Because I like Texans, man.

03:18:48.000 There's a stereotype about the worst Texans.

03:18:53.000 But they're not the best Texans.

03:18:55.000 So you never met the best Texans.

03:18:57.000 The best Texans are like, oh, you're like some cool combination of smart and old school.

03:19:03.000 You're a cool combination of hip and progressive and tolerant.

03:19:07.000 Oh, you want a tiger?

03:19:08.000 And also you have guns.

03:19:09.000 You want a tiger?

03:19:10.000 You can get a tiger!

03:19:11.000 Yeah, oh.

03:19:13.000 Did you see my bit?

03:19:14.000 Remember that bit?

03:19:15.000 You saw that old bit that I used to do about Texas?

03:19:19.000 It's legit, though.

03:19:20.000 It is legit.

03:19:21.000 Texas has more tigers in captivity than all of the wild of the world.

03:19:27.000 More in Texas. 0.99

03:19:29.000 And my joke was, like, one dude was, like, going through the regulations, like, shit, I didn't know you'd get a tiger. 0.99

03:19:34.000 Order it up, dude! 0.99

03:19:35.000 Order it up!

03:19:36.000 And then his neighbor found out.

03:19:37.000 He goes, I didn't know you'd get tigers.

03:19:39.000 His neighbor's got two tigers. 0.99

03:19:40.000 And he's like, man, I ain't about to let this faggot out tiger me. 1.00

03:19:43.000 And he opened up Tiger World. 0.99

03:19:46.000 It's like... 0.99

03:19:47.000 Fucking ridiculous joke that's based on a true fact that there's more tigers in captivity in Texas than anywhere in the world. 0.99

03:19:54.000 But Texas, the thing is, Texas of 2018 is not Texas of even 2008. And definitely not Texas of 1990. No way. 0.99

03:20:01.000 It's better and smarter and it's a good place to be, man.

03:20:05.000 Texas is a good place to be.

03:20:07.000 It's one of my favorite spots.

03:20:08.000 It is cool.

03:20:09.000 I love it there, man.

03:20:10.000 I like the people.

03:20:11.000 There's sort of...

03:20:12.000 It's a weird combination, like I said.

03:20:14.000 It's a country.

03:20:15.000 It's a country.

03:20:15.000 I think it is.

03:20:16.000 I think it is, too.

03:20:16.000 It's a completely different...

03:20:20.000 I mean, everything about it's different.

03:20:23.000 Isn't it true?

03:20:24.000 Well, I always explain it on stage about Buc-ee's. 1.00

03:20:26.000 We're taking people that are never into Buc-ee's for the first time. 0.98

03:20:29.000 Which I went to the first Buc-ee's on that...

03:20:31.000 When I took supplies down to Houston for the hurricane...

03:20:36.000 That was my first time at a Buc-ee's, and I thought, is this a freaking Costco, but with fuel?

03:20:44.000 It doesn't make any sense.

03:20:45.000 The way I describe it on stage, I always say, this is like if you were in the middle of a full-on cocaine binge, and someone came up to you and said, dude, I want you to make me the ultimate gas station. 0.99

03:21:00.000 It's a gas station with hundreds of pumps like you can't believe how many pumps there are it doesn't make any sense It's like a goddamn field of pumps. 1.00

03:21:09.000 It doesn't make any sense and then you go into this building It is a fucking warehouse filled with pickled alligator dick You're like, what the fuck is this? 1.00

03:21:25.000 And it's huge! 1.00

03:21:26.000 I mean, it's like a fucking goddamn football field-sized room filled with jelly beans. 1.00

03:21:34.000 Different kinds of camo and real tree. 1.00

03:21:37.000 There's a Buc-ee's right there. 1.00

03:21:38.000 There you can see, that's a mild Buc-ee's. 0.99

03:21:41.000 That is not a real Buc-ee's. 1.00

03:21:42.000 That's on the edge of fucking Wyoming or some shit. 0.99

03:21:47.000 Chuck Norris jeans. 1.00

03:21:49.000 There's so many pumps!

03:21:51.000 It doesn't make any sense.

03:21:52.000 Look at that right there.

03:21:53.000 How many pumps is that?

03:21:54.000 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 25, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 29, 29, 30, [...]

03:22:14.000 He did?

03:22:14.000 He used to.

03:22:15.000 I used to own a pair of them, bro.

03:22:16.000 What?

03:22:16.000 Let's see these.

03:22:17.000 I'm not lying.

03:22:18.000 Do you have any?

03:22:18.000 No, not anymore, but I used to lace up.

03:22:20.000 I want to put them on.

03:22:21.000 They used to lace up in the front.

03:22:22.000 They did?

03:22:23.000 Yeah, they laced up in the front and let you do sidekicks.

03:22:26.000 There it is.

03:22:27.000 Bam.

03:22:27.000 It has a gusset.

03:22:28.000 Looks like Chris Irwin. 0.97

03:22:30.000 They had a gusset in the crotch area. 0.99

03:22:33.000 I like that.

03:22:34.000 The lace up in the front, so I might be lying.

03:22:35.000 That might be PKA. Why wouldn't he have got a little longer inseam there for that?

03:22:40.000 That cowboy boot kick.

03:22:42.000 Well, back in the day, they didn't understand about barbell jeans.

03:22:46.000 They didn't have that type of fabric technology.

03:22:49.000 I do have a pretty good kick distance.

03:22:52.000 Have you ever seen mine?

03:22:53.000 I'm sure it's very long.

03:22:54.000 It is.

03:22:55.000 We'll make a video of it later.

03:22:56.000 I can kick the top of a doorway.

03:22:59.000 Ooh, look at that in the dress shirt. 0.99

03:23:01.000 Son of a biatch. 0.91

03:23:02.000 That gentleman right there will always have my respect. 0.90

03:23:05.000 Him and Bruce Lee are the reason why I got into martial arts.

03:23:08.000 100%.

03:23:09.000 Watching Chuck Norris movies when I was a kid.

03:23:11.000 One of my proudest moments of my life was when Chuck Norris knew who I was.

03:23:14.000 I ran into him at a kickboxing event in New Jersey way back in the day, and he gave me this big hug.

03:23:19.000 It was one of his events that he had.

03:23:20.000 He had a World Combat League.

03:23:22.000 He gave me a big hug. 0.99

03:23:23.000 I was like, holy shit, Chuck Norris knows who I am. 0.99

03:23:25.000 Damn right you did. 1.00

03:23:26.000 I couldn't have been happier. 1.00

03:23:26.000 No wonder you're unbreakable, you little sucker. 1.00

03:23:28.000 I was beaming. 1.00

03:23:29.000 I was beaming.

03:23:30.000 And then later, I took a picture of me and Tate, Tate again.

03:23:34.000 There was an award show that they did for an old-school karate master, and Chuck Norris was there and a bunch of other old-school American black belt karate guys, and they were telling these awesome old-school karate stories, and they asked me to be there and speak a little bit.

03:23:52.000 I mean, I'd do anything for Chuck Norris. 0.91

03:23:54.000 Like, no bullshit. 0.99

03:23:56.000 Go corny as you want. 0.99

03:23:57.000 Chuck Norris changed my life.

03:24:01.000 For real.

03:24:02.000 If it wasn't for Chuck Norris movies, who knows?

03:24:04.000 I might not have ever gotten into martial arts. 0.99

03:24:05.000 I watched him in Lone Wolf with Quaid and shit. 0.99

03:24:08.000 I was like, God damn, that might be the coolest guy that's ever lived. 0.99

03:24:10.000 Did you laugh the other night in Vegas when we were talking about what my wife Sharon's name was supposed to be? 0.97

03:24:17.000 Oh, when we were coming up with fake names for people?

03:24:19.000 No.

03:24:20.000 What she was supposed to...

03:24:22.000 Oh yeah, Debra? 1.00

03:24:23.000 No.

03:24:23.000 Well, that was the fake name you gave her.

03:24:25.000 That was the fake name.

03:24:26.000 My wife's name, her dad actually wanted to name it.

03:24:30.000 Oh, that's right.

03:24:30.000 Bruce Lee.

03:24:31.000 Oh, that's right.

03:24:32.000 That was the craziest story of all time.

03:24:34.000 I forgot about that.

03:24:37.000 Dude, those vape pens, if they're making it, rude.

03:24:40.000 If you knew Sharon, you would laugh at this, but her dad was into nunchucks and all kinds of sorts.

03:24:49.000 When my wife was born, they didn't know what she was going to be, so he really wanted her name to be Bruce Lee.

03:24:58.000 But if you knew Sharon, you'd know she is far from Bruce Lee.

03:25:03.000 Do we have any more alpha brain? 0.99

03:25:04.000 We need another one.

03:25:06.000 There you go.

03:25:09.000 I made a deal with my wife. 0.91

03:25:10.000 I said, I'm not naming the kids.

03:25:13.000 I'm like, I just have veto power.

03:25:14.000 This is not fair.

03:25:17.000 That was a good story, too.

03:25:18.000 They grew in your body.

03:25:19.000 I'm like, I'm not telling you what to name them.

03:25:22.000 I mean, I will 100% be there, but I'm saying, let's not pretend this is an even proposition.

03:25:28.000 You're doing 99.99999% of the work. 0.99

03:25:32.000 As long as you don't call them fucking applesauce or something crazy. 0.99

03:25:35.000 This is my kid Pixie. 1.00

03:25:37.000 You're not going to torture them with your wacky bullshit. 1.00

03:25:41.000 Pixie. 1.00

03:25:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:25:42.000 I mean, I just gave my suggestions, my feelings, but I was like, there's no way it's fair for me to name the kid. 0.97

03:25:49.000 Although she did have some goofy-ass name for dudes that I might have had to put the fucking stamp on. 1.00

03:25:55.000 I know how hard it is for guys. 0.98

03:25:57.000 Like, a guy like John or a guy like Joe, those are good names.

03:26:01.000 They're solid. 0.99

03:26:02.000 You can't find, oh, who's your fucking name, John? 0.99

03:26:05.000 You're like, what are you talking about? 1.00

03:26:07.000 You look like a fool. 1.00

03:26:09.000 I had a CB in junior high, and I actually, I've always loved frogs. 1.00

03:26:15.000 I know, you have a frog tattoo on your arm.

03:26:17.000 Okay.

03:26:18.000 Jamie, Google a pixie frog.

03:26:20.000 What's a pixie frog? 0.97

03:26:22.000 Is that a real thing?

03:26:23.000 I used to have several.

03:26:25.000 I had Pixie Frogs.

03:26:27.000 A name like Jamie's a little controversial, right?

03:26:29.000 What?

03:26:29.000 I was going to say, I got...

03:26:30.000 Do you get shit for that? 0.99

03:26:32.000 A little bit. 1.00

03:26:32.000 It's a girl's name is what they're talking about. 1.00

03:26:34.000 Motherfuckers. 1.00

03:26:35.000 Those motherfuckers. 1.00

03:26:36.000 Who came first? 1.00

03:26:37.000 How about Kelly?

03:26:38.000 Kelly's always a back and forth one too.

03:26:39.000 Who came first though?

03:26:40.000 It's Pat was on when I was a kid.

03:26:43.000 It's Pat. 1.00

03:26:45.000 Damn you, Saturday Night Live, frickin' ruining Pat. 1.00

03:26:49.000 Shelly's another one. 1.00

03:26:50.000 Shelly used to be a common name for a gentleman.

03:26:52.000 What?

03:26:53.000 This is Shelly Finkel.

03:26:54.000 Shelly Finkel used to be one of Mike Tyson's financial managers. 0.55

03:26:58.000 Yeah.

03:26:59.000 Pixie Frogs were pretty big.

03:27:01.000 Shelly.

03:27:01.000 There's a bunch of Shelly's.

03:27:02.000 A bunch of old Jewish men that were Shelly's. 0.90

03:27:04.000 Sheldon, right.

03:27:05.000 Sheldon, yes, Shelly.

03:27:07.000 Kelly?

03:27:08.000 Shelly?

03:27:09.000 I know a dude named Kelly. 1.00

03:27:10.000 Got a fucking tattoo on his neck. 1.00

03:27:12.000 Call him a bitch, I'll punch you in the face. 1.00

03:27:15.000 Dick isn't used anymore except for like if someone's being a dick. 1.00

03:27:18.000 Yeah, you're right. 1.00

03:27:19.000 Tons of dicks back in the day. 1.00

03:27:20.000 You know, here's the crazy thing about Dick. 0.99

03:27:22.000 Dick was from Richard.

03:27:25.000 And then how about Jack?

03:27:27.000 Jack's from John.

03:27:28.000 How is Chuck from Charles?

03:27:32.000 That should make any sense!

03:27:33.000 I looked that one up.

03:27:34.000 I think the Jack thing is Irish. 0.99

03:27:37.000 I think they were just learning how to talk.

03:27:38.000 Yeah, I think that's what it comes from. 1.00

03:27:40.000 Fucking apes. 1.00

03:27:41.000 Well, my dad's middle name is definitely straight out of the ape age. 1.00

03:27:46.000 My dad's middle name is Doy.

03:27:49.000 Doy? 0.85

03:27:49.000 D-O-Y? Like Doy! 0.85

03:27:52.000 Exactly.

03:27:52.000 Like Homer Simpson?

03:27:55.000 No, Homer Simpson's...

03:27:55.000 Where did that come from?

03:27:56.000 Look at that.

03:27:57.000 Oh my god, a frog eating a mouse.

03:27:58.000 That might be out of my tank.

03:27:59.000 What's happening to this show?

03:28:01.000 Dude, I used to have to grow mice.

03:28:03.000 No, this is a pixie frog.

03:28:04.000 I know, I know, I know.

03:28:05.000 But you're just frog... 1.00

03:28:06.000 Not just a pixie frog, a pixie frog eating a fucking rat with its asshole poking out the camera. 1.00

03:28:11.000 I would have to buy mice to feed my pixie frog because he ate mice. 1.00

03:28:17.000 Dude, look at the size of that.

03:28:18.000 Go back to that one, please.

03:28:19.000 Look at the size of its body with the full mouse in his body.

03:28:23.000 He just expands like a water balloon.

03:28:25.000 That's crazy. 0.80

03:28:26.000 That's such a crazy creature.

03:28:28.000 See, I always liked frogs and I thought they were really cool.

03:28:31.000 Especially pixie frogs.

03:28:32.000 They were super aggressive.

03:28:34.000 They would eat something up to their size. 1.00

03:28:37.000 Holy shit. 1.00

03:28:37.000 Like you could put a mouse in their cage the same size as them and they would tackle it. 1.00

03:28:42.000 That's crazy.

03:28:43.000 And smoke it.

03:28:44.000 It's a monster!

03:28:45.000 I had him.

03:28:46.000 Have you never seen him?

03:28:47.000 It's a little tiny monster, right?

03:28:48.000 Look at the mouse!

03:28:50.000 I didn't see the mouse!

03:28:51.000 Oh my god!

03:28:53.000 Oh my god!

03:28:54.000 We'll go all the way up, Joe.

03:28:55.000 Oh my god!

03:28:56.000 Take that picture and send it to me.

03:28:59.000 Take a picture of that and send it to me.

03:29:00.000 That might be the greatest picture I've ever seen in my life.

03:29:02.000 That's a thick thing.

03:29:03.000 Safe image.

03:29:05.000 So my CB hand... 0.98

03:29:06.000 Messages the shit out of me with that.

03:29:08.000 My CV handle was Pixie, and I didn't know that Pixie wasn't cool until someone else addressed me on it. 0.61

03:29:17.000 Pixie frog is like a trick.

03:29:19.000 It's like the most demonic, ruthless thing.

03:29:21.000 How many animals eat an animal their size? 0.99

03:29:23.000 I don't know, but that sucker did. 1.00

03:29:26.000 Not a whole lot. 0.99

03:29:27.000 That sucker did. 0.99

03:29:28.000 Oh my god, look how big it is! 0.99

03:29:30.000 Mine was the size of a dinner plate.

03:29:32.000 Unless that kid is a pixie himself. 0.94

03:29:35.000 No.

03:29:36.000 What we're looking at is a young man.

03:29:38.000 My frog was this big.

03:29:39.000 That little fella looks like he's about seven years old.

03:29:42.000 Oh, that's an African bullfrog. 0.98

03:29:43.000 That's what it is.

03:29:44.000 It's a pixie.

03:29:46.000 This is how big my frog was.

03:29:48.000 John Dudley's holding a typical ice tray that you would get in a hotel room.

03:29:52.000 I would call it an ice bucket.

03:29:54.000 Ice buckets, rather.

03:29:55.000 What's that rabbit?

03:29:56.000 Oh, my God.

03:29:57.000 Look at the size of that rabbit.

03:29:59.000 Might be a small girl.

03:30:00.000 No, it's a big rabbit.

03:30:02.000 I can tell by its feet.

03:30:03.000 Doesn't look right.

03:30:04.000 Looks like gigantism.

03:30:06.000 Look at them all.

03:30:07.000 Oh, yeah.

03:30:08.000 There's another one eating a rat. 0.98

03:30:09.000 Dude, they're monsters. 0.92

03:30:10.000 I have a lot of videos of mine just smoking mice.

03:30:14.000 That's crazy to think that it could literally eat something at the same time.

03:30:17.000 They were so cool. 0.99

03:30:18.000 Oh, there was a fucking python they found in Florida in the Everglades that ate a deer 110% the weight of its body. 0.99

03:30:26.000 I think I saw that. 1.00

03:30:26.000 And they're like, what have you assholes done? 1.00

03:30:29.000 You fucking Leonard Skinner-loving, muscle-car-driving dipshits keeping pythons in a fucking terrarium in your bedroom with Motley Crue posters on the wall and you do acid and decide to let that thing go in your yard. 1.00

03:30:45.000 Now they're eating deer that are 111 pounds. 1.00

03:30:48.000 They're fucking huge, man. 0.99

03:30:50.000 Look at that thing! 1.00

03:30:51.000 Jesus Christ!

03:30:54.000 Oh my God!

03:30:56.000 It's so big!

03:30:58.000 This thing is so big, this guy's holding on to it.

03:31:00.000 Is that a biologist that's got it?

03:31:02.000 What does he have?

03:31:04.000 The head?

03:31:04.000 He's holding on to the mouth and the head, controlling the body, and inside of it is this enormous lump that is apparently a deer that's bigger than its whole body, in terms of its body weight.

03:31:14.000 Do you ever see the one where one died because it was trying to eat an alligator?

03:31:18.000 You ever see that one?

03:31:20.000 I think so.

03:31:21.000 Dude, this is how gangster pythons are.

03:31:23.000 They are gangster. 1.00

03:31:25.000 They fuck with alligators. 1.00

03:31:26.000 Anything that can unlock its jaw is pretty gangster. 1.00

03:31:29.000 Dude, they fuck with alligators. 1.00

03:31:30.000 They look at an alligator and they go, I'm gonna just try to eat you. 1.00

03:31:34.000 I saw, I actually went to a comedy skit at Riviera.

03:31:38.000 Remember we were talking about that?

03:31:40.000 Yeah, look at this thing, dude.

03:31:41.000 I don't want to interrupt, but go to the upper left.

03:31:44.000 Upper left corner, you get the best example.

03:31:45.000 This is what happened. 0.99

03:31:46.000 It died because the alligator blew out the side of its asshole when it tried to eat this thing. 0.99

03:31:52.000 I mean, this literally happened. 1.00

03:31:54.000 It literally swallowed up this fucking whole alligator face first, and the alligator backed its way out of its asshole, and they both died in the Everglades. 1.00

03:32:05.000 But this fucking snake is so big, it's trying to eat an alligator that's bigger than Yeah, it doesn't care. 1.00

03:32:13.000 These crazy fucks have let these things loose in the United States of America. 1.00

03:32:20.000 It's simple math. 0.99

03:32:22.000 That comic that we saw at Riviera, I saw in the late 90s, which I think you were there at that time.

03:32:30.000 Yeah, we were talking about that.

03:32:31.000 Which is kind of crazy.

03:32:34.000 What's going on here, Jamie?

03:32:36.000 Cutting a person out of a snake.

03:32:38.000 Wonderful.

03:32:39.000 Good times.

03:32:40.000 Cutting a person out of a snake.

03:32:42.000 Where is this?

03:32:42.000 India?

03:32:42.000 Is this some place that John Dudley fucking narrowly escaped death?

03:32:45.000 Is that on my train? 0.99

03:32:46.000 Is that on my train with dead people? 1.00

03:32:48.000 Oh my god, it is a fucking person. 1.00

03:32:49.000 Get me out of a snake! 1.00

03:32:52.000 Woo! 0.99

03:32:53.000 This is what you need to learn, folks.

03:32:55.000 Just because you watch nature doesn't mean you know nature.

03:32:58.000 Just like if you watch porn, you're not getting laid.

03:33:01.000 It's the same thing.

03:33:02.000 If you take anything from this podcast...

03:33:05.000 Take that.

03:33:06.000 Nature is like where you go.

03:33:08.000 Where you go.

03:33:09.000 We were talking about BC and you go bear hunting.

03:33:12.000 Tell the people how crazy it is up there.

03:33:16.000 You're in a forest filled with monsters.

03:33:17.000 Oh, yeah.

03:33:19.000 Well, they don't watch the news.

03:33:22.000 It's all about, can I eat you?

03:33:25.000 Well, pretty much like this.

03:33:27.000 My mouth is this big.

03:33:28.000 You're this big.

03:33:29.000 I think you can fit in it.

03:33:31.000 That's as simple as it gets.

03:33:34.000 That comic at Riviera that time.

03:33:36.000 Who was it?

03:33:37.000 I don't know.

03:33:38.000 I wish I knew because it was actually a really good bit.

03:33:41.000 Do you remember a bit?

03:33:42.000 Yeah.

03:33:43.000 He pretty much talked about the fact that he's so sick of people complaining about how fat they get because he said, literally, it's simple math, people.

03:33:55.000 Your mouth is this big. 1.00

03:33:58.000 Your butthole's this big. 1.00

03:34:01.000 At some point, there's a bottleneck. 1.00

03:34:05.000 And he just said...

03:34:06.000 That's funny. 1.00

03:34:07.000 He said, between your mouth and your asshole... 1.00

03:34:10.000 It wasn't Dom Irera, was it? 1.00

03:34:12.000 I don't know.

03:34:13.000 It was so long ago.

03:34:15.000 I mean, it was 20 years ago at most.

03:34:17.000 That sounds like something Dom Irera would say.

03:34:18.000 Yeah.

03:34:18.000 He just said, listen, it's simple math.

03:34:20.000 Your mouth is this big. 1.00

03:34:22.000 Your butthole is this big. 1.00

03:34:24.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:34:24.000 Why are you complaining about being fat? 1.00

03:34:26.000 Well, that's the real concept behind that 16-hour fasting.

03:34:31.000 Eddie Bravo brought me to 16. I was doing 14 for a while, but Eddie said that 16 is really where all the benefits happen.

03:34:38.000 So I said, alright, I'll give it a try.

03:34:39.000 So I tried 16. And I see it.

03:34:42.000 There's definitely something to it.

03:34:43.000 There's more alertness.

03:34:45.000 I process food better.

03:34:46.000 I think giving your body a smaller window to process food is really wise.

03:34:51.000 I think it also aids you because it gives you discipline.

03:34:55.000 Even just a little discipline.

03:34:57.000 It's just a baby, baby amount of discipline.

03:34:59.000 No, it's a lot.

03:35:00.000 It's not.

03:35:01.000 It's not really.

03:35:01.000 To me and you, it's not, but to some people that is.

03:35:04.000 Right.

03:35:05.000 Seriously.

03:35:05.000 But it's all relative, but I'm just being honest with them.

03:35:07.000 They need to get past that.

03:35:09.000 It's not really a lot, but the benefits of it, like how you feel when you finally have your first meal, when you cross over the line, like you feel better and your body works better and you have more energy.

03:35:17.000 That's a fact.

03:35:18.000 I have more energy.

03:35:19.000 I think you absorb it faster.

03:35:20.000 You and I both are big fasters.

03:35:23.000 I mean, I fast.

03:35:25.000 I normally eat Last, maybe about 7 o'clock at night, and then I normally eat again about 10 or so in the morning.

03:35:35.000 So, I mean, it's quite a bit of time.

03:35:38.000 And when I eat, I legitimately feel like I can feel my body absorbing everything that I'm consuming.

03:35:46.000 Right, like it's processed everything else.

03:35:48.000 That's how it's supposed to be.

03:35:50.000 That's really what fat is all about, right?

03:35:52.000 Fat is all about, you just keep stockpiling, even though your body hasn't processed it.

03:35:56.000 Put it over here.

03:35:58.000 Your body's stacking up fat over your body instead of utilizing it for fuel.

03:36:02.000 You're just not burning off enough calories.

03:36:05.000 That's what this whole fasting thing sort of normalizes, for me at least.

03:36:10.000 It just gives you this opportunity where your body says, let's just digest everything we've got here.

03:36:14.000 Let's just do this.

03:36:15.000 And then when this dude wakes up in the morning, we're going to be burning fats.

03:36:18.000 This is the way to go.

03:36:19.000 And then you feel good.

03:36:21.000 You have more energy.

03:36:21.000 Your body's using ketones.

03:36:23.000 Especially if you're someone like myself.

03:36:24.000 I'm not eating a lot of bread.

03:36:26.000 If I eat bread once every two or three weeks, it's a big deal.

03:36:29.000 If I eat pasta once every two or three weeks, it's a big deal. 0.99

03:36:32.000 Do you feel like dog shit when you do? 1.00

03:36:34.000 No. 1.00

03:36:35.000 No, but I don't go crazy.

03:36:36.000 I don't go crazy.

03:36:37.000 If I don't go crazy, I don't feel bad.

03:36:40.000 But if I do go crazy, if I eat like a big piece of chocolate cake and some ice cream, I feel it way more now.

03:36:46.000 Way more now.

03:36:47.000 Yeah.

03:36:48.000 I think you're more in tune.

03:36:49.000 If you're conscious about it, I think you have a better understanding of what it actually does to you.

03:36:56.000 That's the problem with people that are in the lifestyle of doing it every single day is they don't really realize what it's doing to them.

03:37:02.000 I think there's that, but I think there's also obviously a tolerance that you develop.

03:37:06.000 Just like people develop a tolerance for alcohol, people develop a tolerance for weed, people definitely, I think, develop a tolerance for sugar.

03:37:13.000 And when I don't have it, then I feel the full brunt of sugar. 0.99

03:37:16.000 I remember I took my family to get cheeseburgers and milkshakes, and I had a big-ass fucking vanilla milkshake. 0.99

03:37:26.000 And it was so good. 0.99

03:37:28.000 Oh, my God.

03:37:29.000 I was drinking this big-ass, like, 20-ounce vanilla milkshake, and I was eating this cheeseburger, and I hit the wall so hard after it was over, I had to sit down. 0.99

03:37:39.000 Like, I'm like, what kind of bitch am I that I'm... 0.99

03:37:41.000 I get taken out... 0.99

03:37:42.000 I get, like, hamstringed by a cheeseburger and a milkshake.

03:37:46.000 But...

03:37:47.000 It was just clearly that I had been eating clean for so long, my body had no idea what to do with that giant dump of sugar.

03:37:54.000 Like, how much sugar do you think is in 20 ounces or 18 ounces?

03:37:59.000 I don't know how much. 0.99

03:37:59.000 It was like one of those, you know those Sunday drink things they give you where it's a big ass fucking glass filled with ice cream, milkshake? 0.99

03:38:08.000 Today I was in the airport in Des Moines, and I got a coffee. 0.99

03:38:13.000 100 grams!

03:38:14.000 Oh my God!

03:38:16.000 20 ounce chocolate shake nutrition information.

03:38:19.000 How many tablespoons is that?

03:38:21.000 100!

03:38:22.000 How many tablespoons is 100 grams?

03:38:24.000 Oh my God, that's so crazy!

03:38:25.000 I was in Des Moines Airport this morning.

03:38:27.000 I got a coffee, and a guy behind me got a coffee.

03:38:31.000 I think he was a baggage handler for one of the airlines.

03:38:36.000 I literally came up and I poured nothing but half and half in my coffee.

03:38:41.000 I actually feel like I thrive off fat now because that's what my body wants.

03:38:47.000 He unscrewed the top of a jar of meth.

03:38:51.000 No.

03:38:52.000 Yeah, pretty much.

03:38:53.000 He unscrewed the top off the sugar.

03:38:57.000 And he started...

03:38:58.000 I was actually like, God, dude, can you do that again so I can video this?

03:39:03.000 He unscrewed the top off the sugar and started pouring it in his coffee.

03:39:07.000 And he poured and I was like, oh my God, is that a lot?

03:39:11.000 And then he kept going and kept going and kept going. 0.87

03:39:14.000 And then he tipped the thing down, put the top back on the sugar, and then poured in freaking creamer. 0.81

03:39:22.000 And I was...

03:39:23.000 I was sitting there like, dude, that is...

03:39:26.000 That's rich.

03:39:27.000 It's literally like two or three times what you're saying.

03:39:32.000 And the problem is this guy that was half my size needed that to feel like he could get the day going. 0.98

03:39:40.000 That's a big problem.

03:39:41.000 He hated his job so bad.

03:39:43.000 He just wanted to go into a diabetic coma in the middle of the work floor. 1.00

03:39:48.000 He's just like, look, fuck this insulin. 1.00

03:39:51.000 I'm just eating about a half a pound of sugar. 0.99

03:39:53.000 Let's do this.

03:39:55.000 Okay?

03:39:57.000 I love it.

03:39:58.000 Just got myself wet.

03:40:00.000 What's that?

03:40:01.000 No, it's okay.

03:40:02.000 It's just my pants.

03:40:03.000 It's just this barbell jeans.

03:40:05.000 My barbell jeans are wet.

03:40:06.000 Look.

03:40:07.000 Embarrassment.

03:40:07.000 Listen, this is for your own good, ladies and gentlemen.

03:40:10.000 It's for comedy.

03:40:12.000 It is.

03:40:13.000 We're okay, though.

03:40:14.000 No computer, no laptop.

03:40:15.000 How many tablespoons of sugar is in 100 grams of sugar?

03:40:19.000 That's a good question.

03:40:21.000 When I think of 100 grams, I'm thinking like a baseball of sugar.

03:40:26.000 That's what I think.

03:40:27.000 It's a lot.

03:40:28.000 A Major League Baseball of sugar.

03:40:31.000 Does that make sense?

03:40:32.000 Yeah, for sure.

03:40:34.000 Is that legit?

03:40:34.000 Can I see like a physical representation of 100 grams of sugar?

03:40:37.000 One tablespoon equals 12 grams.

03:40:40.000 Oh my god!

03:40:41.000 That's eight.

03:40:44.000 Eight and a half.

03:40:45.000 Eight and a half tablespoons!

03:40:47.000 That's so crazy!

03:40:48.000 What does that look like?

03:40:49.000 It's not quite a baseball, but it's definitely bigger than a golf ball.

03:40:53.000 Huh?

03:40:54.000 Eight and a half?

03:40:55.000 Eight and a half is bigger than a golf ball.

03:40:56.000 I'm just being conservative.

03:40:58.000 How many golf balls?

03:40:59.000 One, two, three...

03:41:02.000 I bet it's two golf balls.

03:41:04.000 Jamie.

03:41:07.000 Whoa! 0.71

03:41:07.000 That's a lot! 0.71

03:41:09.000 That's a goddamn volcano. 0.99

03:41:10.000 If you snorted that, you'd be on cloud nine. 1.00

03:41:13.000 Look at that quarter!

03:41:14.000 Look at that quarter!

03:41:16.000 That's crazy!

03:41:16.000 Just to give proportion.

03:41:17.000 That's crazy!

03:41:18.000 Holy nuggets! 1.00

03:41:19.000 That's all in a fucking milkshake. 1.00

03:41:21.000 Are you serious? 1.00

03:41:21.000 No wonder why I hit the wall. 1.00

03:41:23.000 It's two cups, Joe!

03:41:24.000 That's comparison.

03:41:25.000 There's 100 grams right here.

03:41:27.000 I think it's comparing.

03:41:28.000 Oh, 100 grams.

03:41:28.000 Okay, two cups.

03:41:30.000 Oh, there's two cups.

03:41:31.000 So it's one cup.

03:41:32.000 It's one cup.

03:41:33.000 But look at the size of the 100 grams!

03:41:34.000 That's nuts!

03:41:35.000 That's so much sugar, and that's what's in a milkshake?

03:41:39.000 I gotta go to the doctor.

03:41:41.000 This happened years ago, but I still have to go to the doctor today because of it.

03:41:45.000 Let's wrap this up.

03:41:46.000 I gotta pee again.

03:41:48.000 It's already 4 o'clock.

03:41:49.000 Let's shoot some arrows.

03:41:50.000 Ladies and gentlemen, if you're interested in high-level archery instruction and information, knock on podcast.

03:41:58.000 You can go to iTunes.

03:42:00.000 You get it on Google Play.

03:42:02.000 Is it on Google Play?

03:42:04.000 Stitcher.

03:42:06.000 Whatever.

03:42:07.000 Knock on TV on Instagram.

03:42:10.000 Knock on archery.com.

03:42:12.000 It's the best place.

03:42:13.000 What's the Instagram, though?

03:42:14.000 Knock on TV. Knock on TV Instagram.

03:42:16.000 Knock on TV Twitter as well.

03:42:19.000 I don't know.

03:42:20.000 I don't tweet much.

03:42:21.000 He doesn't tweet much.

03:42:22.000 Just check him out on Instagram.

03:42:24.000 We're done, ladies and gentlemen. 0.99

03:42:26.000 We did about a fucking 15-hour podcast. 0.99

03:42:28.000 How long was that? 0.99

03:42:29.000 Four hours?

03:42:30.000 That's enough.

03:42:31.000 You've heard enough.

03:42:32.000 We love you.

03:42:33.000 Bladders made of steel.

03:42:35.000 Love these people, John Dudley?

03:42:37.000 All bicep. 1.00

03:42:39.000 Tell these people you love them.

03:42:40.000 I love you, freaks.

03:42:43.000 Bye!

03:42:46.000 That was awesome.

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 07, 2018

Joe Rogan Experience #1089 - John Dudley

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