The Joe Rogan Experience - May 31, 2018


Joe Rogan Experience #1125 - Candace Owens

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Candace Owens joins Jemele to talk about her new book, why she thinks the internet is dumb, and how to deal with the constant stream of controversy that s out there these days. She also talks about how she got into politics, and why she doesn t care what people think of her. She also explains how she thinks about social media and how it s changed the way we look at the world and what it s like to be a millennial in the 21st century. And she gives us a little bit of advice on how we can deal with all of the craziness that s going on in the world these days, including the fact that the internet has become so big, it s almost impossible to remember the old days when things weren t so crazy. And she also gives us some advice on what we should be doing to make sure we re all aware of the new technology we re living in the era of social media, and what we can do to keep up with it. It s a good one, and it s a very funny one, so don t miss it! Thank you so much for tuning in to this episode of Thick & Thin. I hope you enjoy it, and I hope it makes you think about it a lot more of you. . -Jon Sorrentino . . . Jon and Jemele Candace Jon's new book is out now. Candice Owens' book, Thick and Thin? is out on Amazon Prime Video and is available for purchase now. Check it out here. Jon s new book: Ben Shapiro's new novel, Joe Rogan's new podcast, The Truth Is My Life, My Life is My Truth, My Truth on Amazon and much more! Jon talks about it on his new book and much much more, so check it out! and more. and I think you should listen to it on Amazon and watch it on your local podcast, too! - Jon s podcast is a lot of other places! if you like it, please leave us a review and tell me what you think it s good, we really like it if it s funny, Jon is awesome, Jon also has a review of it on Insta: , and he's cool, Jon s review it on insta and he also does it on the pod is cool, and so much more.

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00:00:04.000 Boom.
00:00:05.000 And we're live.
00:00:06.000 Candace Owens.
00:00:07.000 How you doing?
00:00:07.000 I'm good.
00:00:08.000 How are you?
00:00:09.000 I'm very good.
00:00:10.000 Thank you.
00:00:10.000 Thank you for asking.
00:00:11.000 A lot of controversy these days, Candace?
00:00:13.000 I guess.
00:00:14.000 A little bit.
00:00:15.000 In the Twitterverse.
00:00:16.000 In the world.
00:00:17.000 Yeah.
00:00:17.000 Just everybody's excited about being outraged.
00:00:19.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:00:20.000 That's exactly right.
00:00:21.000 There's controversy every five seconds.
00:00:23.000 You know, I had a guy on before, the guy that you just met, Dr. Robert Schock.
00:00:27.000 He's a geologist from Boston University and he is a part of this back dating of the ancient, the history of Egypt.
00:00:37.000 And they're talking about You know, all these different structures that might be thousands and thousands of years older than people think they are.
00:00:43.000 And one of the things that he's working on is that there was coronal mass ejections from the sun somewhere around 10,000 years ago that basically killed off a giant percentage of the population on the planet.
00:00:55.000 Lightning storms, millions of times greater than anything we've ever experienced before.
00:00:59.000 That literally was like lightning coming down like rain, barbecuing the ground, killing people, people forced into caves, civilization resets.
00:01:07.000 It's almost like we need something like that to really be upset about.
00:01:11.000 I know.
00:01:11.000 Because instead of being upset about Roseanne or Samantha Bee, Samantha Bee used the C word today, that naughty girl.
00:01:18.000 It's just outrage culture. 0.97
00:01:20.000 I say everyone should just wait like 48 hours if everybody hates you, and then they'll be on to the next person that they have to hate.
00:01:26.000 Yeah, well that's one of the cool things about the internet is the cycle.
00:01:30.000 Boy, it hits you hard, but then it goes back pretty quick.
00:01:32.000 Really fast, yeah.
00:01:33.000 It's never that serious.
00:01:35.000 It's not like the old days.
00:01:36.000 When someone got in trouble with something, boy, that trouble stuck.
00:01:40.000 I don't know that time.
00:01:41.000 I genuinely don't know that time.
00:01:43.000 How old are you?
00:01:44.000 29. I just turned 29. Yeah, so you're very, very young in the shit-stirring culture.
00:01:48.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.98
00:01:50.000 This is all new stuff to you.
00:01:51.000 It's new, yeah.
00:01:52.000 And I think the thing that sucks for me is that I'm really conscious of it.
00:01:55.000 Like, I wish I thought all of this was normal.
00:01:57.000 It would be easier.
00:01:58.000 But, like, even when I do things, like just before this, I was like, oh, let me do an Instagram story that I'm about to go on Joe Rogan.
00:02:03.000 I'm like, hey guys, like, we on Joe Rogan.
00:02:06.000 And I'm like, how weird.
00:02:07.000 I'm like holding my phone in the middle of talking to this device.
00:02:11.000 At least you're aware that it's odd. 0.61
00:02:12.000 But it kind of sucks that I'm aware of it.
00:02:14.000 It would be so much more natural if I wasn't aware of it.
00:02:17.000 You know, girls are just, hey guys, and all day, and it feels normal.
00:02:21.000 So being conscious of it is kind of not that fun.
00:02:24.000 That's probably the best way to approach it, though, to be conscious of how goofy it is.
00:02:28.000 Because if you're just swept away in the zeitgeist...
00:02:31.000 I don't know.
00:02:32.000 I think it's better.
00:02:33.000 Ignorance is really bliss.
00:02:34.000 You think so?
00:02:35.000 Yeah.
00:02:35.000 I think there are people that think it's the most normal thing in the world to just put your entire life on social media.
00:02:41.000 And I actually don't think it's the most normal thing in the world, but my entire life is on social media.
00:02:46.000 Well, I've just met you, but you seem like a very bright woman. 0.97
00:02:49.000 And that's probably part of the problem is you're not stupid. 1.00
00:02:51.000 If you're stupid, you'd be like putting everything on Instagram and you'd be, do you do the selfie face? 1.00
00:02:57.000 This is my favorite thing. 1.00
00:02:58.000 This thing.
00:02:59.000 When they do that weird thing with their neck?
00:03:02.000 Do you want to get the right angle?
00:03:03.000 I don't.
00:03:04.000 I'm really bad at selfies.
00:03:06.000 My cousin always has to take them if we're in the same picture.
00:03:09.000 But I'm getting good at my Instagram angle and the things that I say.
00:03:14.000 Like, oh, do you guys like this eyeshadow? 0.99
00:03:17.000 It's that ridiculous. 0.98
00:03:19.000 My friend Cameron Haynes loves you. 0.97
00:03:20.000 He saw you on Fox News.
00:03:22.000 He's like, who's this girl?
00:03:23.000 She's making so much sense.
00:03:24.000 He's like super hardcore conservative.
00:03:27.000 So he likes when anyone is young and conservative.
00:03:30.000 He loves Ben Shapiro. 1.00
00:03:32.000 He loves all that shit. 1.00
00:03:33.000 So he got excited about you. 1.00
00:03:35.000 Yeah, people have been really excited.
00:03:36.000 I think it's just because I'm really unapologetically myself.
00:03:41.000 And today that's like, it's like seeing an alien.
00:03:45.000 Well, it's hard to pull off, right?
00:03:46.000 Because people get mad at you.
00:03:48.000 There's one thing that is absolutely happening, whether people like it or not, or believe it or not, is that people are trying to silence other people's opinions.
00:03:55.000 That's correct. 1.00
00:03:55.000 If you say something that doesn't jive with them, instead of saying, wow, this lady's kind of out there, or she's saying some shit that I'm not sure I agree with, instead of that, they're like, fuck! 1.00
00:04:05.000 Hire her! 1.00
00:04:06.000 Get her off the air! 1.00
00:04:08.000 Boycott!
00:04:09.000 Boycott!
00:04:09.000 It's insane.
00:04:10.000 The outrage culture is insane.
00:04:11.000 It's like, do you really want someone to lose their job because you didn't like a tweet?
00:04:14.000 How weird are some of these situations?
00:04:16.000 I'm like, do you really want this person not to be able to feed their family because you don't like a tweet? 0.67
00:04:20.000 People are crazy.
00:04:20.000 They find targets and they want to go after them.
00:04:23.000 There was a bunch of people that were writing, boycott Joe Rogan because I was talking about having Roseanne Barr on the show tomorrow.
00:04:29.000 It's It's insane.
00:04:30.000 I know.
00:04:31.000 It's like she doesn't have a right to speak now.
00:04:33.000 She can't even talk. 0.70
00:04:34.000 She can't even talk. 0.70
00:04:35.000 Even though I'm sure you don't agree.
00:04:37.000 I don't agree with what she said, right?
00:04:38.000 But the idea that she can't have a conversation after that to me is the most bizarre thing in the entire world.
00:04:44.000 But that is what outrage culture is. 1.00
00:04:46.000 It's like they need you off the island.
00:04:48.000 She doesn't even agree with what she said.
00:04:49.000 Right.
00:04:50.000 I know.
00:04:50.000 She apologized.
00:04:51.000 Nobody cares about it.
00:04:52.000 She's on Ambien.
00:04:53.000 It's not enough.
00:04:53.000 She's taken all kinds of antidepressants.
00:04:56.000 She's drinking. 1.00
00:04:57.000 She's fucked out of her head. 1.00
00:04:59.000 My mom took Ambien. 1.00
00:05:01.000 She just told me about this today.
00:05:03.000 I forgot.
00:05:03.000 I forgot about this story because I was telling her a story about another friend of mine on the podcast yesterday.
00:05:08.000 I talked about how a friend of mine...
00:05:10.000 Got on Ambien, made a full meal, cooked it, ate it, went to sleep, got up in the morning, and had zero recollection of it.
00:05:17.000 That's really real.
00:05:18.000 I was in total denial of it.
00:05:19.000 It happens.
00:05:19.000 That's 100% real.
00:05:20.000 My mom told me that she went to bed, got up in the morning, and she had got up and put red lipstick and nail polish all over the white bathroom carpet. 1.00
00:05:34.000 Those little brochures.
00:05:35.000 She just painted on it like a child.
00:05:38.000 She had zero recollection of it. 1.00
00:05:40.000 She's like, this is scary shit. 1.00
00:05:41.000 She just painted like a little kid would. 1.00
00:05:43.000 Like a two-year-old would get a hold of your lipstick and start drawing on the walls.
00:05:46.000 She did that on this shag carpet. 0.99
00:05:48.000 Ambien is just like sleepwalk.
00:05:49.000 It instantly brings you into sleepwalk and you can do anything when you're on Ambien.
00:05:53.000 I had a bunch of college friends who used to do Ambien and bizarre stories would just come out.
00:05:58.000 I'm very anti-pills.
00:06:00.000 I don't take anything.
00:06:01.000 Nothing?
00:06:01.000 Nothing at all.
00:06:02.000 Do you drink?
00:06:03.000 I don't drink, no.
00:06:04.000 You don't do anything?
00:06:04.000 I don't do anything.
00:06:05.000 Are you a teetotarder?
00:06:05.000 I mean, I wasn't always.
00:06:08.000 I guess you could say it's a little bit of paranoia.
00:06:10.000 But once I started down this journey of realizing that, oh my god, I lived for 26 years and my mind wasn't my own.
00:06:16.000 I thought being a liberal was okay and everything that was said on TV was okay.
00:06:21.000 Then it's very easy to sort of get a little paranoid and go, okay, well, what else do I accept normally that is actually retrospectively a little weird?
00:06:29.000 And I started thinking about drinking.
00:06:30.000 I'm like, how can drinking possibly be the cure to everything?
00:06:33.000 It's like, you're getting married.
00:06:35.000 Drink.
00:06:36.000 Happy.
00:06:36.000 You're sad.
00:06:37.000 Drink.
00:06:37.000 Right.
00:06:38.000 Good point.
00:06:38.000 You're a little embarrassed?
00:06:39.000 Have some, you know, drink.
00:06:40.000 Do you want to come out of your shell?
00:06:41.000 Drink.
00:06:42.000 Like, no matter what emotion you have, there's like a liquor designed for it.
00:06:45.000 So I was like, this is a little shady.
00:06:47.000 Like, I don't know.
00:06:47.000 I just feel like, and then I did like a little bit of math, and I calculated that since I had started drinking when I was like 14 years old, and I would say like fair, like I drink every weekend, probably more in college, maybe five days a week in college, right?
00:07:00.000 Then I was like, wow, I've technically drank for like three years of my life, and that feels weird.
00:07:04.000 So I'm just not going to drink anymore.
00:07:06.000 So you put in your time.
00:07:07.000 Yeah.
00:07:08.000 Take a little break.
00:07:09.000 Yeah.
00:07:09.000 Take a little break.
00:07:10.000 Take a little break.
00:07:10.000 Yeah.
00:07:11.000 Which is weird because now I go places and I'm like, oh, I don't drink and everyone gets really uncomfortable.
00:07:15.000 And they're like, oh, okay, I'll have a glass of water.
00:07:18.000 I'm like, I'm an alcoholic.
00:07:20.000 You can have a beer in front of me.
00:07:22.000 Right.
00:07:23.000 Yeah, that's a weird one, right?
00:07:24.000 Like, if other people are drinking and you don't, they're like, huh, an outsider.
00:07:27.000 Like, I'm the weird one, yeah.
00:07:29.000 They don't trust you, almost.
00:07:31.000 Like, it's like, they're just like, I can't trust this one.
00:07:33.000 Might be a spy.
00:07:33.000 Yeah, I'm like, water's good.
00:07:35.000 Because if everybody's fucked up, you're like, man, we were fucked up. 0.99
00:07:37.000 And then whoever did weird shit, it's like, it's okay, we're all hammered. 0.99
00:07:41.000 Right. 1.00
00:07:42.000 But if one person is sober, watching everybody, writing shit down. 0.95
00:07:46.000 And I'm at the age where all my friends are getting married and the first thing they say when I say I don't drink is like, you're not going to drink at my wedding? 0.95
00:07:52.000 And I'm like, well, yeah, is that okay?
00:07:54.000 Can I still come?
00:07:55.000 And they feel like you're ruining their wedding.
00:07:58.000 Right.
00:07:58.000 Because you're not going to drink it.
00:07:59.000 It's like a very strange thing.
00:08:01.000 The culture of drinking as a non-drinker, you really realize how bizarre it is socially.
00:08:05.000 How long did you take off?
00:08:06.000 How long has it been?
00:08:07.000 I stopped drinking last November, so it hasn't been like super long, but long enough for people to really have some weird feelings about it.
00:08:15.000 I'm just sober, man.
00:08:16.000 I don't know.
00:08:17.000 It's not a bad thing.
00:08:18.000 I took a month off.
00:08:20.000 We did Sober October, no pot, no booze, and then we had to do 15 hot yoga classes, 90-minute hot yoga classes in a month.
00:08:30.000 It was a bet between me and my four friends. 0.98
00:08:32.000 It was a stupid bet because there wasn't even any stakes, right? 0.99
00:08:36.000 If one of us didn't do it, we had to throw a party. 1.00
00:08:38.000 But we all did it, so it was pointless.
00:08:41.000 But we learned a lot.
00:08:42.000 You learn a lot about that even if you don't think you use alcohol or pot as an escape, you do.
00:08:51.000 You do.
00:08:51.000 You 100% do.
00:08:52.000 You lean on it a little bit.
00:08:54.000 Yeah, and I always talk about, like, people are like, what are the differences you've noticed?
00:08:56.000 And there have been so many differences.
00:08:58.000 But I think, like, the number one thing...
00:09:00.000 It's just the amount of confidence that I have.
00:09:02.000 I have this theory now that alcohol gives you anxiety.
00:09:06.000 I used to be stressed out.
00:09:07.000 I realized that I was self-diagnosing myself.
00:09:10.000 I'd be like, eh, I'm not a morning person.
00:09:11.000 I was probably just perpetually hungover.
00:09:15.000 I jump up now in the morning.
00:09:16.000 I have so much energy.
00:09:17.000 So I'm like, wow, I wonder how many things I've been self-diagnosing.
00:09:21.000 I'm like, oh yeah, my skin just got bad once I turned 26. Skin immediately clears up.
00:09:26.000 So I'm like, wow, maybe I just had so much alcohol in my system that I developed random things.
00:09:32.000 It's entirely possible.
00:09:34.000 I mean, it's definitely not good for you.
00:09:35.000 It's certainly not good for you five, six nights a week.
00:09:37.000 No, and the best way to stop drinking is to read an article that freaks you out about what drinking does.
00:09:42.000 This is what I do.
00:09:43.000 This is how I train myself to do things.
00:09:45.000 I'll read some really extreme thing on the internet and then be like, okay. 0.96
00:09:49.000 Like liver sclerosis and shit like that? 0.98
00:09:51.000 No. 0.96
00:09:52.000 This guy had this theory that alcohol, and people call alcohol spirits or whatever, that when you drink, it allows evil spirits to come into your body.
00:10:03.000 The most bizarre thing.
00:10:05.000 And I was just like, yeah, I can't drink anymore.
00:10:08.000 I've got to keep away from evil spirits.
00:10:09.000 So that's what you used?
00:10:10.000 Yeah.
00:10:11.000 I just read weird articles, and then I'm like, I'm not going to drink anymore.
00:10:14.000 I'm done.
00:10:14.000 I'm over it.
00:10:15.000 And then I realized, like, who else doesn't drink?
00:10:16.000 Like, the most, like, successful, like, Donald Trump has never drank alcohol, which is just fascinating, because I'm like, I don't know how.
00:10:22.000 He could use a drink.
00:10:22.000 Just tell that dude to sit down and relax.
00:10:24.000 He's got so much energy, right?
00:10:26.000 Like, he's just, like, going at it.
00:10:28.000 And I'm like, maybe that's the secret.
00:10:31.000 Charlie Kirk doesn't drink.
00:10:32.000 He's, like, 24 years old and taking over the world.
00:10:34.000 So I don't know.
00:10:36.000 Who else?
00:10:37.000 Don Trump Jr. doesn't drink.
00:10:39.000 Doesn't?
00:10:39.000 Doesn't.
00:10:39.000 I mean, he did.
00:10:40.000 Like, I used to drink.
00:10:41.000 I don't mean to, but he doesn't drink.
00:10:44.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:10:45.000 So I guess the people that I'm around now don't drink, so it makes it easier.
00:10:49.000 But they're just, like, highly productive individuals, and I'm now, like, highly productive.
00:10:54.000 Kim Kardashian doesn't drink. 0.96
00:10:55.000 She should drink, too.
00:10:58.000 It's good to be highly productive, but it's also good to have fun.
00:11:01.000 And I don't think there's anything wrong with the little social lubricant.
00:11:04.000 No, I think there's nothing wrong with it.
00:11:04.000 People can drink around me all the time.
00:11:05.000 I don't care.
00:11:07.000 Actually, I will say, when people get completely sloshed, it's a weird thing to observe when you're sober.
00:11:12.000 It's very weird.
00:11:12.000 It's a strange place.
00:11:14.000 It's like being on another planet where everyone's acting like a toddler.
00:11:17.000 It's like watching a preschool class.
00:11:19.000 Yeah.
00:11:19.000 Like, I'm going to the bathroom.
00:11:21.000 I'm like, why are you screaming close to my face?
00:11:24.000 And they want to talk to you and explain things.
00:11:25.000 And they want to get really close.
00:11:27.000 Yeah.
00:11:28.000 Drinking makes you a really close talker.
00:11:30.000 There's something where you need to feel the heat emanating off of someone's face.
00:11:34.000 Well, you don't understand space.
00:11:36.000 You don't understand personal space. 0.99
00:11:38.000 People grab people and do weird shit to them when they're drunk. 0.99
00:11:41.000 It's a weird thing to watch sober. 0.99
00:11:42.000 There's a certain number of drinks where it's fun, and then there's a certain number of drinks where you're like, wow, human beings are weird.
00:11:47.000 Do you think you're going to go back?
00:11:49.000 I mean, look, I'm sure I'm not gonna, like, never drink again, but, like, I'm not even, I don't even think about it.
00:11:54.000 Like, it's just, like, this is the new Candace.
00:11:57.000 I'm sure, like, when I get married, right, like, I'm not gonna not have, like, a glass of champagne, but, like, right now, like, especially with, like, the stuff that I'm doing, I'm, like, I just don't have the energy to be, like, tired.
00:12:07.000 Right.
00:12:08.000 Which is kind of a weird sentence.
00:12:09.000 So how did you become this...
00:12:11.000 You're a very popular, what I would call, conservative thinker.
00:12:15.000 Yeah.
00:12:16.000 But you're very young.
00:12:17.000 I am.
00:12:17.000 Like, how did this all happen?
00:12:18.000 How did you become this Fox News personality, conservative thinker?
00:12:22.000 Yeah, I mean, I just launched a YouTube channel. 1.00
00:12:26.000 Oh, fucking YouTube. 0.99
00:12:27.000 Yeah, YouTube, where magic happens. 1.00
00:12:30.000 YouTube's a strange place.
00:12:31.000 It's as strange as it gets.
00:12:31.000 It's just another strange place, yeah.
00:12:33.000 Well, it's the internet.
00:12:34.000 It's the internet.
00:12:35.000 Yeah, strange things happen on the internet.
00:12:37.000 But yeah, I just kind of, I was really passionate.
00:12:41.000 I understood I had studied for, like, it sounds strange, but like, I spent a year underground, like, studying politics once I had my red pill moment, if that's what you want to call it.
00:12:50.000 Well, explain that, because you used to be a liberal.
00:12:53.000 Right.
00:12:53.000 And then you became a conservative.
00:12:55.000 That's correct.
00:12:55.000 So what was it?
00:12:57.000 So the story really starts with high school, I guess.
00:13:01.000 You know how things can happen to you in life and they don't make sense when they happen?
00:13:04.000 You're like, why God me?
00:13:05.000 And then you get a little older and you're like, this makes perfect sense.
00:13:08.000 So I was the quote-unquote victim of a hate crime when I was in high school.
00:13:13.000 When you say quote-unquote victim, you don't think you're a victim?
00:13:16.000 No, I hate the word victim.
00:13:17.000 And again, I can see why early on I've sort of developed this mentality that there's no value in being a victim.
00:13:24.000 And people rush to call people a victim.
00:13:26.000 They rush to call somebody to be a aggressor.
00:13:27.000 So how do you describe it?
00:13:28.000 That you experienced a hate crime?
00:13:29.000 I experienced something that was labeled a hate crime.
00:13:31.000 I wouldn't even call it hate crime.
00:13:33.000 I think we live in a label-obsessed culture.
00:13:35.000 And before we seek to understand what happened, we seek to...
00:13:39.000 Put it in a box.
00:13:39.000 Yeah.
00:13:40.000 So what happened?
00:13:41.000 Someone has to be a demon and someone has to be an angel.
00:13:43.000 So what happened was I received some voicemail messages from about four kids and the language was pretty strong.
00:13:52.000 It was like, we're going to tar and feather your family. 0.91
00:13:54.000 We're going to put a bull in the back of your head like we did to Martin Luther King. 0.99
00:13:57.000 Like, you know, N-word, N-word, N-word. 0.86
00:14:00.000 And you received these on your phone?
00:14:01.000 On my cell phone, yeah.
00:14:02.000 How'd they get your phone number?
00:14:04.000 Well, there was a prank phone call, so I didn't know.
00:14:06.000 I was like four male voices, and I was like in high school at the time, and I was like, okay, I cannot think of four human beings that want me dead that would say, like, we're gonna put a bullet in the back of your head like we did to Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks, like naming off.
00:14:17.000 Where'd you go to school?
00:14:17.000 Where were you?
00:14:18.000 What part of the country?
00:14:19.000 Stanford High School in Connecticut. 0.99
00:14:20.000 Okay, that's a shithole. 1.00
00:14:22.000 Yeah, yeah, it's a total shithole. 1.00
00:14:23.000 I hate Connecticut. 1.00
00:14:24.000 Yeah, no, Connecticut's on a shithole. 1.00
00:14:26.000 It's a running joke, I'm sorry. 1.00
00:14:28.000 I always shit on Connecticut. 0.97
00:14:29.000 I have my buddy Tommy Jr., he lives in Connecticut, and I'm always telling him, dude, you gotta move out of Connecticut, and it became this terrible running joke where I talk about that Connecticut's the worst state in the country. 0.99
00:14:37.000 Have you actually been?
00:14:38.000 Yeah, a bunch of times.
00:14:39.000 I used to work there all the time.
00:14:40.000 Where?
00:14:40.000 What city?
00:14:41.000 Well, I used to work in all over Connecticut when I was doing stand-up.
00:14:45.000 I would drive from Boston into Connecticut.
00:14:48.000 I did a lot of gigs in Hartford. 0.99
00:14:52.000 Hartford is a shithole. 1.00
00:14:54.000 Bridgeport is a shithole. 1.00
00:14:55.000 Shout out to Marlon Starling Jr., though. 0.99
00:14:59.000 He was a boxer that came out of Hartford.
00:15:02.000 Yeah.
00:15:02.000 Big time boxer.
00:15:03.000 Marlon Starling. 0.99
00:15:05.000 But when you were in high school, somebody started doing this prank call and shit on you. 0.99
00:15:14.000 It was all in one night. 0.99
00:15:16.000 It was all in one night.
00:15:17.000 Yeah, it was like four voicemails.
00:15:18.000 Was this tied to like a boyfriend or a girl who was jealous?
00:15:22.000 No, so I was at a boyfriend's house when I got the calls and I just like put it to a sign because it was like blocked number so I was like I didn't think anything of it and then like when I listened to it like it was like some pretty horrific stuff like I definitely cried you know I was 17 years old and then the next day at school I took this like philosophy class and like I don't know what the topic was I don't know what prompted me to raise my hand and like Introduce what had happened last night as a segue.
00:15:45.000 Maybe I just need to get off my chest.
00:15:47.000 But the teacher spazzed out and was like, get up.
00:15:50.000 We're going to the principal's office.
00:15:51.000 You have to report this.
00:15:53.000 He brings me into the office.
00:15:55.000 The principal freaked out.
00:15:57.000 The language was shocking.
00:16:01.000 And then she called the resource officer.
00:16:03.000 And then the next period of my life was like a blackout because It turned out that three of the kids I had never even met.
00:16:10.000 This was maybe some kids that had their first beer.
00:16:13.000 One of the kids I was friends with, but we were arguing because he was upset that I was spending so much time with my boyfriend.
00:16:19.000 Oh, that's what it was. 0.96
00:16:21.000 But he's gay. 0.97
00:16:21.000 He just was jealous. 0.97
00:16:23.000 I used to hang out with him every day, started hanging out with my boyfriend. 1.00
00:16:25.000 It was a stupid thing. 0.99
00:16:26.000 Maybe he wasn't 100% gay. 1.00
00:16:28.000 No, he's 100% gay. 0.97
00:16:31.000 From what I'm told. 0.93
00:16:33.000 So he just got petty and jealous. 0.88
00:16:37.000 And then he was like, here are my three friends and we're all going to get drunk and call this black girl. 0.86
00:16:42.000 It's easy to say awful things into this. 0.96
00:16:45.000 You don't have to look at a human being.
00:16:47.000 It's easy to say awful things.
00:16:49.000 But unfortunately for me, one of the people in the car happened to be the current governor of Connecticut's son.
00:16:55.000 So this turned from...
00:16:57.000 Some kids prank called to, like, said some awful things to, like, front page of the newspaper throughout the entire state of Connecticut, a little bit in New York, NAACP outside of my school.
00:17:08.000 It was, like, this situation that was talking about outrage culture, my first, like, introduction to outrage culture and the things that sort of formed my thoughts.
00:17:16.000 Like, this was a very formative experience in my life.
00:17:19.000 To me, it was non-political, but my life wasn't mine.
00:17:24.000 I went from sitting down watching Talladega Nights with my boyfriend to being the most discussed person in the state of Connecticut.
00:17:32.000 What was interesting about it was just that because it was the governor of Connecticut's son that was in this car, They had to get the FBI involved to determine the authenticity of the—like, maybe she called herself.
00:17:43.000 Instead of just saying, like, yes, it was my son, he actually let the FBI investigate for six weeks and waited for his son to get arrested six weeks later.
00:17:50.000 You know what I mean?
00:17:50.000 Did his son deny it?
00:17:52.000 They just wanted to see if they could get away with it, because this is politics.
00:17:54.000 You know what I mean?
00:17:55.000 Like, can we get away with it?
00:17:56.000 Is it plausible for us to get away with it?
00:17:58.000 You know, so six weeks of the entire state—I didn't—I, like, left school.
00:18:02.000 People were, like, fighting on my behalf, fighting— You left school?
00:18:05.000 You're like, I'm going to take a break?
00:18:07.000 Yeah.
00:18:07.000 Wow.
00:18:08.000 Yeah.
00:18:09.000 Senior year?
00:18:10.000 Yeah.
00:18:11.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:18:11.000 Damn. 1.00
00:18:11.000 This was just like, it was like a monstrosity of a situation. 1.00
00:18:15.000 And it was one of those things where like, literally like letters to the editor.
00:18:19.000 It'd be like moms, like talk about, you know, outrage culture, right? 1.00
00:18:21.000 Like, I don't believe Candace, like this happened, this girl, I believe she called herself.
00:18:26.000 Like, you're like, I'm just looking for attention one night.
00:18:28.000 And I just decided to say I was going to hang my family from a tree.
00:18:31.000 Isn't it funny that someone would even have an opinion on that?
00:18:34.000 It's bizarre.
00:18:34.000 I don't believe her.
00:18:35.000 Who even writes letters to the editor?
00:18:37.000 The whole thing is weird, retrospectively.
00:18:39.000 I don't believe her, but that is what life is about.
00:18:42.000 That same lady is probably about to write a YouTube comment right now. 1.00
00:18:46.000 I don't believe you still. 0.99
00:18:48.000 This is how you got on fucking Fox News. 0.99
00:18:50.000 Exactly. 0.99
00:18:51.000 So it was the situation that was just completely out of my control.
00:18:55.000 And then as quick as it happened, these kids got arrested.
00:18:58.000 And then as quick as it happened, it was over for everyone, but not for me or these kids.
00:19:03.000 So I never wanted these kids to get arrested.
00:19:07.000 Situation was taken out of my hands.
00:19:09.000 People thought I didn't go to the police.
00:19:10.000 Like, my teacher went to the police.
00:19:12.000 It turned into the zoo.
00:19:13.000 These kids were labeled publicly racists, right?
00:19:16.000 The youngest kid in the car was 14. I'm not comfortable with ever labeling a 14-year-old racist, right?
00:19:21.000 Or any of these kids racist.
00:19:22.000 These are kids, and in my opinion, adults that fail to act like adults.
00:19:27.000 Adults that fail to take a step back and say, okay, what would prompt these kids to do this?
00:19:31.000 Why is it so easy to be mean?
00:19:33.000 Why is it so easy nowadays for children to be mean?
00:19:36.000 And no one, to me, when I really thought about that, I went through five years of anorexia because of the situation.
00:19:43.000 Because of that one call?
00:19:44.000 Those fair calls?
00:19:46.000 Yeah.
00:19:46.000 Wow.
00:19:47.000 You went through anorexia?
00:19:49.000 Yeah.
00:19:49.000 Which is so weird now because people that know me now are like, there's no way you never didn't eat.
00:19:53.000 But I did.
00:19:54.000 I did not eat for five years.
00:19:57.000 I had issues with anorexia because anorexia is a disease that genuinely is about control.
00:20:03.000 It's about a certain control of your life.
00:20:04.000 And I felt that my life was fine.
00:20:06.000 And then people took the narrative.
00:20:10.000 I decided to determine what the narrative was. 0.99
00:20:12.000 You're a victim or maybe you're a liar. 1.00
00:20:15.000 You know, these kids are racist. 1.00
00:20:17.000 These kids are this. 0.53
00:20:18.000 And just nobody really thought that, like, you actually ruined all of our lives, right?
00:20:22.000 Like, for a little bit.
00:20:23.000 Like, these kids went on to have, like, DUIs and get arrested and got into drugs.
00:20:27.000 It was because of this outrage.
00:20:29.000 Because of the pressure of everything that happened.
00:20:30.000 Yeah.
00:20:31.000 And I was like, would have been totally cool with an apology.
00:20:34.000 Like, you know what I mean?
00:20:35.000 Yeah.
00:20:35.000 Like, sorry.
00:20:37.000 Well, good for you for looking at it that way.
00:20:39.000 Yeah.
00:20:39.000 That's hard to do because everybody loves, when they are allowed to get outraged, everybody loves to get outraged.
00:20:45.000 Obviously, what they did to you was horrible.
00:20:46.000 Right. 1.00
00:20:47.000 I think a lot of kids, especially if they're drinking, they don't even understand how stupid and gross it is what they're doing. 0.99
00:20:52.000 They just know they can do it and they get a thrill out of it. 0.98
00:20:55.000 And then there's that mob mentality when there's like a bunch of people together doing the same thing.
00:20:59.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00
00:21:00.000 And you wrap it up and start saying crazy shit. 0.96
00:21:01.000 It's really understandable when you just like think about it as a human being and not as somebody who has to have opinion. 1.00
00:21:06.000 Like, you're like, hey, we're going to call this black girl, right? 0.90
00:21:08.000 You've got a bunch of kids. 0.98
00:21:09.000 We're going to just say mean things to her on the phone.
00:21:11.000 And you don't have to look her in the face, right?
00:21:14.000 Right.
00:21:16.000 And I'm like, just say mean stuff.
00:21:18.000 You can say anything to this pen.
00:21:21.000 So it was a formative experience that, in retrospect, I understand, has so much to do with why I am who I am.
00:21:29.000 Because I hated that label of sex culture and the outrage machine.
00:21:33.000 And then like, oh, okay, we're done.
00:21:34.000 But forget the people whose lives we just...
00:21:37.000 Now, do you know those people anymore?
00:21:39.000 I don't.
00:21:40.000 I know the siblings of them.
00:21:42.000 Because I was friends.
00:21:43.000 That's the thing.
00:21:43.000 One of the people that was involved, I was very good friends with his brother.
00:21:46.000 And it's like, you're just going to tell me this kid's a racist?
00:21:49.000 I actually knew the kid's mother.
00:21:51.000 Nobody cared.
00:21:52.000 It was just a hot story. 1.00
00:21:54.000 So you think that they weren't necessarily racist, but they were just stupid and mean and being shitty kids. 1.00
00:21:59.000 And they knew that that was a way that they could scare you. 1.00
00:22:02.000 Right.
00:22:02.000 And they might have been drunk.
00:22:04.000 Maybe it was their first beer.
00:22:07.000 I doubt it.
00:22:09.000 Well, the youngest was 14. Oh, wow.
00:22:12.000 And this person was labeled a racist.
00:22:14.000 That, to me, that's harsh.
00:22:17.000 People say, oh, you're too forgiving.
00:22:19.000 Well, how do you not label them a racist?
00:22:20.000 Because what they said was most certainly racist.
00:22:22.000 Yes, the words are racist, right?
00:22:24.000 I guess the question is, can somebody say something, say a word, that is racist and not be a racist human being?
00:22:31.000 Yes.
00:22:32.000 I'm going to tell you why yes, okay?
00:22:34.000 Okay.
00:22:34.000 It was somebody's stand-up I was watching.
00:22:36.000 I actually don't remember who it was.
00:22:37.000 Like, maybe...
00:22:38.000 It was Louis C.K., I don't know.
00:22:39.000 But he was saying how he, like, instantly turns into a racist.
00:22:44.000 Like, if somebody cuts him off, it's like a Chinese person. 1.00
00:22:46.000 Like, instantly, the first thing he says is, like, something to do with him being Chinese, right?
00:22:50.000 Right, right.
00:22:51.000 And there's a little bit of that in all of us.
00:22:53.000 Like, I was walking through New York City the other day, and, like, a huge bus, like, just happened to, like, stop in front of me and, like...
00:23:00.000 Literally 45 Asians got off and suddenly I was just like I couldn't like walking around like oh I was like why do Asians always travel in packs right like the most bizarre thing like I don't have an issue with them taking a bus and traveling and then afterwards I giggled I was like what a stupid thing a stupid thought to even had to have because I'm frustrated in a moment that I can't like get my bearings in New York City um so yes I think that people in a moment of a frustration of anger if you add alcohol if you add Ambien right Mm 0.98
00:23:48.000 -hmm.
00:23:49.000 Yeah, it's over.
00:23:50.000 Your career is done.
00:23:52.000 Your life is over.
00:23:54.000 You've said the wrong thing.
00:23:56.000 You've done the wrong thing.
00:23:57.000 I mean, obviously there's some reasons for some people to be punished.
00:24:00.000 Like Harvey Weinstein's a perfect example.
00:24:02.000 That guy should be in jail.
00:24:03.000 Of course.
00:24:04.000 For sure.
00:24:05.000 This is rape. 1.00
00:24:06.000 He's a rapist. 1.00
00:24:06.000 Yeah, this is rape. 1.00
00:24:07.000 At least alleged rapist. 1.00
00:24:09.000 For sure, he's done a lot of horrible shit. 1.00
00:24:11.000 Correct. 1.00
00:24:12.000 But then there's people that like, what did Samantha Bee say today? 0.99
00:24:17.000 She called Ivanka a cunt? 1.00
00:24:19.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00
00:24:20.000 What happens there?
00:24:21.000 Think she gets in trouble?
00:24:22.000 I bet she doesn't.
00:24:23.000 She's not going to get in trouble.
00:24:24.000 I bet she doesn't because this is left wing. 0.91
00:24:26.000 She's left wing. 1.00
00:24:27.000 It's a safe space to say sorry on the left. 0.99
00:24:29.000 Have you seen some of the shit that Keith Oberman has said about Trump? 0.99
00:24:32.000 And he got a job at ESPN. They don't care. 1.00
00:24:34.000 There are fucking so many tweets that he put out that are crazy, calling Trump a Nazi and fuck you. 1.00
00:24:40.000 Think about what people say about Ben Carson and black conservatives. 1.00
00:24:45.000 Ben Carson was literally called a porch monkey. 0.84
00:24:48.000 And that's totally fine. 0.99
00:24:50.000 He's black. 0.92
00:24:50.000 It doesn't matter. 0.92
00:24:51.000 They've created this system.
00:24:53.000 Who is it that did it, though?
00:24:54.000 It wasn't a famous person.
00:24:56.000 No, it was a famous person.
00:24:57.000 Absolutely called him a porch monkey.
00:24:58.000 Was it a famous black person? 0.94
00:24:59.000 It was a famous black person.
00:25:00.000 Yeah, that's like if I call a guy Guinea. 0.99
00:25:02.000 Yeah, but a porch monkey is like, I don't care who it's coming from, right? 1.00
00:25:08.000 Yeah, but black people are allowed to say racist shit to other black people. 1.00
00:25:12.000 But is that okay? 1.00
00:25:12.000 It's not okay. 1.00
00:25:13.000 None of it's okay.
00:25:14.000 Like the Uncle Toms, the Cooms, the stuff that...
00:25:16.000 But we got weird laws or rules culturally.
00:25:19.000 And I don't like those laws and rules.
00:25:20.000 So I push back.
00:25:21.000 I hear you.
00:25:21.000 I agree.
00:25:23.000 Well, it's definitely hypocritical. 0.52
00:25:25.000 Someone was saying, there's a tweet that I retweeted today, that Smallville girl, that Smallville show is still on the air. 0.93
00:25:33.000 And that girl is apparently, she's admitted to sex trafficking and that some of it was her idea.
00:25:39.000 I read this.
00:25:40.000 Smallville, still on the air, and they're pulling Roseanne from Hulu.
00:25:44.000 Right.
00:25:45.000 Roseanne swears she did not know that lady was black. 1.00
00:25:48.000 She swears.
00:25:49.000 I mean, she doesn't look like if you don't... 0.98
00:25:51.000 Allison Mack says branding the sex slaves was her idea. 0.99
00:25:56.000 Branding them. 0.98
00:25:56.000 Nice, Allison. 0.98
00:25:57.000 That means like burning a logo into their bodies. 0.96
00:26:01.000 Right.
00:26:02.000 What is wrong with that? 1.00
00:26:03.000 I don't know enough about that story, but that bitch must be off the charts. 1.00
00:26:07.000 She's crazy, yeah. 1.00
00:26:08.000 But it's only acceptable.
00:26:10.000 If you have any ties whatsoever to conservative thought, if you have even liked a tweet that Trump sent out, forget about it.
00:26:19.000 Forget about it.
00:26:19.000 Well, I'm not even conservative, but I have conservative people on.
00:26:23.000 And people call me alt-right and all this crazy shit. 0.99
00:26:26.000 They're just looking to silence and label. 1.00
00:26:29.000 Right.
00:26:29.000 They're obsessed with labels.
00:26:31.000 And I hate that.
00:26:32.000 I hate the idea that you can't say something like they were literally, I mean, everyone piled in, every celebrity on The Sun piled in when I tweeted a couple of weeks ago that I was having a conversation.
00:26:41.000 I don't know if you saw this.
00:26:42.000 I was like, I was having a conversation at lunch.
00:26:44.000 I've just been observing Chelsea Handler.
00:26:46.000 I just think she's a weird person.
00:26:48.000 I don't know what happened because I used to really like her 10 years ago.
00:26:52.000 That's when you were liberal.
00:26:53.000 Yeah, but when she had her show, she was not politically correct.
00:26:58.000 I don't know if anybody remembers the show Chelsea Lately, but she was making fun of everybody. 1.00
00:27:02.000 And now with the era of Trump, she's like, something's weird.
00:27:06.000 Well, she's getting older, and I think she wants to be an activist now, and I think she's looking for more meaning and importance in her life.
00:27:12.000 Because she doesn't have a family or children. 0.97
00:27:13.000 And I tweet that.
00:27:15.000 Oh, you tweeted that?
00:27:16.000 I tweeted that.
00:27:16.000 I was going to not say that.
00:27:18.000 I was going to not say that.
00:27:19.000 So I tweet that.
00:27:20.000 I'm like, I'm talking to like a friend at lunch.
00:27:22.000 I was.
00:27:23.000 And we were talking about like why some of these like older women have just gone bonkers. 1.00
00:27:28.000 And, you know, my friend made a comment.
00:27:30.000 She's like, if you don't like use your eggs, they scramble.
00:27:32.000 Like just saying like these. 1.00
00:27:34.000 Oh, shit. 1.00
00:27:35.000 That my friend said. 1.00
00:27:37.000 But I didn't even tweet that.
00:27:38.000 I didn't tweet that. 1.00
00:27:39.000 Your friend should put that shit on a t-shirt. 1.00
00:27:40.000 I know. 1.00
00:27:40.000 It's really funny. 1.00
00:27:41.000 If you don't use your eggs, they scramble.
00:27:42.000 So I was cracking up.
00:27:43.000 I know.
00:27:44.000 But there's something there, right?
00:27:45.000 There's something there.
00:27:46.000 It's not politically correct, but I observed the pattern of Kathy Griffin.
00:27:50.000 I observed the pattern of Chelsea Handler and Sarah Silverman on the fence.
00:27:54.000 Not as bad, but in that neighborhood.
00:27:55.000 So I tweet out, do you think there's something associated between women who don't have children and they need something to nurture and foster and try to raise? 0.92
00:28:02.000 And in this sense, it's society.
00:28:04.000 They are just trying to parent the hell out of society.
00:28:07.000 And Do you think Sarah does that?
00:28:09.000 Sarah goes back and forth.
00:28:10.000 She's a kind person.
00:28:12.000 She's a kind person, but there's something like, once in a while, I'm just like, what?
00:28:16.000 I did actually go back and I said, you know what, Sarah?
00:28:18.000 I shouldn't put you in the same category as Kathy and Chelsea, but they're obsessed with everything, and they're completely wrong and educated about everything, and yet they think they can say whatever they want, so I tweet this, I mean, everyone was like, you delete the tweet.
00:28:35.000 Like, the Ellen Show's producers, like, I mean, Jake Tapper, like, delete the tweet.
00:28:40.000 I was like, I'm not deleting.
00:28:41.000 Wait, Jake Tapper told you to delete?
00:28:42.000 Yeah, Jake Tapper jumps into this.
00:28:44.000 He told you to delete the tweet?
00:28:45.000 You know, he said, like, this is, literally, so I tweet this.
00:28:49.000 It has nothing to do with Trump, anybody.
00:28:50.000 He's like, this is the girl who, like, supports Trump and works for Turning Point USA, which loves Trump.
00:28:56.000 I'm like, what is this?
00:28:57.000 That's the weirdest, like, logical jump ever.
00:28:59.000 Jake Tapper said that?
00:29:00.000 Yeah.
00:29:00.000 And I just, like, I'm like...
00:29:01.000 Jake.
00:29:02.000 Jake, stop yourself.
00:29:03.000 Like, come on.
00:29:04.000 So, and everyone was just like, delete the tweet.
00:29:05.000 And I was just like, how about...
00:29:07.000 What was the actual wording of the tweet?
00:29:08.000 I think my exact words were, at lunch with a friend, talking about, like, how bizarre...
00:29:14.000 Chelsea Handler, Kathy Griffin, and Sarah Silverman.
00:29:17.000 Sarah Silverman had just tweeted something like pro-MS-13.
00:29:20.000 It was like a whole Israel. 0.97
00:29:21.000 It was bizarre, you know?
00:29:22.000 And how crazy they've gotten.
00:29:24.000 And then I just said, like, do you think that something really happens to women if they don't have, you know, children?
00:29:29.000 And that was just a question.
00:29:31.000 Isn't that bizarre that that's such a hot spot?
00:29:33.000 It's like, you're going after a soft spot on them.
00:29:36.000 You leave them alone.
00:29:37.000 They're on our team.
00:29:39.000 But you could say anything about Sarah Huckabee Sanders or Kellyanne Conway.
00:29:42.000 That's why I said that.
00:29:43.000 I was like, imagine if you could say anything to Ivanka.
00:29:44.000 This girl's not even going to lose her job. 1.00
00:29:46.000 And she can say anything to Ivanka, you can say anything to Sarah Sanders, anything to anybody, to me, right?
00:29:50.000 Anybody that supports Trump, it doesn't matter.
00:29:52.000 But then, like, these women who literally go after these people, like, the amount of vitriol that Chelsea Handler has thrown to Ivanka, you know, to every single woman in the world. 1.00
00:30:01.000 Chrissy Teigen is also like a, like, she's just, like, angry, like, you know, just like, hate, hate, hate.
00:30:05.000 And then, like, you say one thing about them, and, like, they're like, how could you even question?
00:30:10.000 How could you even ask the question if it's because they don't have kids?
00:30:14.000 And I'm like, the fact that you guys are so outraged makes me sort of think that, you know...
00:30:18.000 Might be a point there.
00:30:18.000 Yeah, a little bit.
00:30:20.000 And I didn't delete the tweet.
00:30:21.000 If you didn't have any point at all, it wouldn't work.
00:30:23.000 Right.
00:30:24.000 And that way, no one would be upset.
00:30:26.000 Yeah, no one would be upset at you.
00:30:27.000 They're like, look at this person. 0.99
00:30:28.000 She doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. 0.99
00:30:29.000 And I tweeted that. 0.99
00:30:30.000 I was like, there's got to be something here because you guys are all losing your minds, you know?
00:30:34.000 Sarah Silverman responded, Kathy Griffin was like, they went nuts.
00:30:37.000 This was like a full-on, like...
00:30:38.000 Well, Kathy Griffin is so happy someone's talking about her.
00:30:40.000 I know, I know.
00:30:41.000 She's like, yeah, but she's bizarre. 0.97
00:30:42.000 And they've gotten bizarre.
00:30:43.000 And at one point, these people, to me, were funny.
00:30:47.000 And something sort of just happened.
00:30:49.000 And, like, Trump is the means.
00:30:51.000 Like, whatever they're going through in life, the outlet is Trump.
00:30:54.000 And anybody that likes Trump.
00:30:56.000 Well, people think there's a cultural war going on.
00:30:58.000 There most certainly is.
00:30:59.000 There is, for sure.
00:31:00.000 But, you know, so they feel like they're on a side and they have to, you know, they're going to lob grenades.
00:31:05.000 Right.
00:31:05.000 They're in the war.
00:31:06.000 Yeah.
00:31:06.000 And it gives people, it also gives people a sense of purpose.
00:31:09.000 Yeah.
00:31:09.000 Like that engaging in these Twitter fights somehow or another is like reinforcing the good behavior and shutting down the bad behavior.
00:31:16.000 Right.
00:31:17.000 I don't necessarily believe that.
00:31:18.000 Even if I don't agree with someone online, I very rarely tweet about them.
00:31:23.000 I feel like I try at this stage in my life to avoid conflict as much as possible unless it comes to writing jokes.
00:31:32.000 Sometimes some people got to take the hit.
00:31:35.000 I know.
00:31:36.000 Usually when I go after someone, I'm not at that phase in my life where it's all peace.
00:31:39.000 I'm definitely a person that'll just say something.
00:31:42.000 But usually it's just in like...
00:31:44.000 That's what I thought.
00:31:46.000 It's not as thoughtful.
00:31:47.000 And people are like, back down.
00:31:48.000 Or you can't...
00:31:49.000 This morning or yesterday, Ben Shapiro and I got into a little spat.
00:31:53.000 And we actually like each other.
00:31:54.000 What are you guys getting a spat about?
00:31:56.000 I'm genuinely annoyed by his behavior online.
00:31:58.000 It's genuine.
00:31:59.000 Really?
00:31:59.000 Yeah, I just find him to be like...
00:32:01.000 And by the way, I like him.
00:32:02.000 That's the thing that's bizarre.
00:32:03.000 I think people think there's much more hate between us than there is.
00:32:06.000 It's not. 0.99
00:32:07.000 It's just genuinely like I read your tweets and I'm like, dude, just shut up. 0.99
00:32:09.000 What did he say? 0.97
00:32:10.000 It's just the little petty things that he throws at Trump sometimes that are so unnecessary.
00:32:15.000 Oh, you're sticking up for Trump.
00:32:17.000 Well, no, it's not even Trump.
00:32:18.000 Kim Kardashian goes to get Alice Marie Johnson.
00:32:22.000 She's been fighting for this for years.
00:32:24.000 She put all of her money into a legal team to do this. 1.00
00:32:27.000 And that's not the only case she's been working on, actually trying to help these people get clemency.
00:32:31.000 And she takes a picture and he says something just very Ben Shapiro-y.
00:32:36.000 We should not be worshipping a celebrity.
00:32:38.000 I don't think he's worshipping a celebrity.
00:32:41.000 That's a little extreme of an analysis for a meeting.
00:32:45.000 And the picture is taken.
00:32:46.000 I visited the president.
00:32:47.000 There's a full-time photographer.
00:32:49.000 And every person that meets the president, you get a picture in the Oval Office.
00:32:52.000 It's a part of the system. 0.99
00:32:54.000 And yeah, so I was just like, dude, shut up. 0.98
00:32:57.000 I didn't say shut up. 0.98
00:32:58.000 I said like...
00:33:00.000 Well, he's got a good point, in a way.
00:33:02.000 We really shouldn't be worshipping celebrity for the sake of celebrity, and especially reality show celebrity.
00:33:08.000 I mean, it doesn't mean that she couldn't have a very valid point about prison reform.
00:33:13.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:33:14.000 I think he said something like, we shouldn't allow celebrities to shape policy.
00:33:18.000 She didn't go there to shape policy. 1.00
00:33:20.000 She literally had a case that she's been trying to get part in.
00:33:23.000 The only person that can do that happens to be President Donald Trump.
00:33:26.000 It's actually, you know, what she's trying to do is actually very honorable.
00:33:29.000 That's what I said.
00:33:30.000 I said, listen, like, and she's been working on it for a year.
00:33:32.000 She's actually into this now.
00:33:34.000 Like, she's into this, like, prison reform.
00:33:35.000 And I'm passionate about it.
00:33:37.000 Like, I grew up seeing my uncles in prison.
00:33:38.000 So, like, for me, the only time that I, like, snap back at anyone is if it's something that I care about.
00:33:42.000 And obviously, like, I really am passionate about black America.
00:33:44.000 I'm really passionate about the changes that can happen for black America.
00:33:47.000 And prison reform is something I'm really passionate about.
00:33:49.000 So I've been observing how hard Jared Kushner's been working on this, how hard Ivanka has been working on this, and have really understood what they're trying to do.
00:33:56.000 I went to the Prison Reform Summit a month ago, and Kim, she doesn't even agree with Trump on a lot of stuff.
00:34:04.000 She's thrown some shade at him.
00:34:06.000 But this is something, this Alice Marie Johnson case she was doing before Trump got into office.
00:34:10.000 You know what I love about the picture of her and him?
00:34:11.000 What? 0.98
00:34:11.000 She's like, where the fuck over here? 0.98
00:34:13.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:34:14.000 If I was taking a picture with Donald, I'd be hugging on him.
00:34:17.000 I'd be like, what's up?
00:34:18.000 I'd be like, ha!
00:34:19.000 But she cares about just the case.
00:34:22.000 But look how far away she is from him.
00:34:23.000 Look at her.
00:34:25.000 Look at all that air.
00:34:26.000 Look at all that air between the two of them.
00:34:28.000 I will say it is awkward, though, because his desk is a lot lower than you realize.
00:34:32.000 That's actually a little closer than I thought it was.
00:34:34.000 You either have to stand up straight like she's standing or bend like I bent when I was in there, which is also kind of weird, too.
00:34:41.000 So you see people either like this or they're like this, and there's no in-between.
00:34:44.000 We could do like 1950s movie star picture like this.
00:34:47.000 Yeah.
00:34:48.000 Like lean.
00:34:49.000 Exactly.
00:34:49.000 That's what I should have done.
00:34:51.000 Yeah.
00:34:51.000 Actually, she's closer than I thought she was.
00:34:53.000 I felt like maybe I put it in my own head. 0.76
00:34:56.000 She actually looks pretty goddamn good right there. 0.68
00:34:58.000 She's gorgeous, by the way. 0.93
00:34:58.000 She doesn't look anything like she used to look, but whoever did that. 0.93
00:35:02.000 Nobody does nowadays.
00:35:04.000 Congratulations, Mr. Surgeon.
00:35:05.000 You did some fucking awesome work. 0.99
00:35:07.000 She's plump. 1.00
00:35:08.000 She looks good.
00:35:09.000 But I guess the question is, can a celebrity do a good act?
00:35:13.000 Sure.
00:35:14.000 Of course, the answer is yes.
00:35:15.000 Well, I mean, that's what Chelsea Handler's trying to do. 0.99
00:35:18.000 I mean, that's like, she's donating...
00:35:19.000 But she really is.
00:35:20.000 She donated a million dollars to Puerto Rico.
00:35:23.000 Oh, right.
00:35:23.000 Which is good.
00:35:24.000 Yeah.
00:35:25.000 That's good.
00:35:25.000 That should be celebrated.
00:35:26.000 That's what she's trying to do with all of her money now. 1.00
00:35:28.000 She doesn't even give a fuck about, like... 1.00
00:35:29.000 Which is good. 0.95
00:35:31.000 All of that stuff, like when they do stuff like that, it's great and it's honorable.
00:35:34.000 But like the stuff that I hate that celebrities do and which I differentiate from and I guess this confuses people is when they just give their opinion.
00:35:42.000 Like we, you know, at like the Emmys and they're on stage just like teaching all of us about how wrong, you know, our opinions are.
00:35:48.000 It's like I don't need this celebrity grandstanding.
00:35:50.000 Yeah.
00:35:51.000 You know, if there's an issue you care about other than the fact that people disagree with you, then sure, do that.
00:35:55.000 If you care about like Ashton Kutcher going after sex trafficking, celebrate that.
00:35:58.000 That's cool.
00:35:59.000 Like Kim Kardashian going after crime justice reform, celebrate that.
00:36:03.000 That's cool. 0.63
00:36:04.000 But when you get these celebrities that just get up there and try to deliver a tear, it's like shut up. 0.67
00:36:08.000 Literally nobody cares what you think.
00:36:11.000 Well, they care enough that that person's got that platform, and they feel like this is their opportunity to say something significant.
00:36:18.000 And also, they're for sure 100% virtue signaling.
00:36:23.000 100% letting everybody know how moral and ethical they are, even if they are.
00:36:28.000 I mean, it's just... 1.00
00:36:30.000 Those fucking award shows are weird as shit. 1.00
00:36:32.000 They're weird. 1.00
00:36:33.000 It's weird.
00:36:34.000 You should go up there and you should say, thank you.
00:36:37.000 Thanks a lot.
00:36:38.000 This is awesome.
00:36:39.000 Thank you to the man upstairs.
00:36:41.000 Thank you, Odin.
00:36:42.000 Thank you, Thor.
00:36:43.000 Thanks to my producer.
00:36:44.000 Remember the days when they used to do that?
00:36:45.000 Yeah, they used to say a couple of names of producers, come up with a little piece of paper, and then they used to always thank the man upstairs, and they used to go down.
00:36:51.000 Now they have the face and the emotion.
00:36:54.000 You know who did it?
00:36:55.000 You know who started it off?
00:36:55.000 Who started this?
00:36:56.000 Marlon motherfucking Brando. 0.99
00:36:58.000 Really? 1.00
00:36:58.000 Yeah, in between having sex with everyone, Marlon Brando apparently fucked Richard Pryor. 1.00
00:37:04.000 Who else did he fuck? 1.00
00:37:05.000 He fucked a bunch of different people. 1.00
00:37:07.000 I've read this. 0.99
00:37:08.000 A bunch of different famous dudes.
00:37:10.000 Was one Marvin Gaye?
00:37:11.000 Am I making that up completely?
00:37:12.000 Yeah, I think it was Marvin Gaye.
00:37:13.000 It was said it was Marvin Gaye, but it's post-humor.
00:37:16.000 Definitely Pryor.
00:37:16.000 Pryor's wife admitted it, which to me is a huge Pryor fan.
00:37:20.000 That was a spike through the heart. 0.97
00:37:22.000 Quincy said he would fucking Yeah, I bet he would. 1.00
00:37:26.000 If he fucked Richard Pryor, I mean, what the hell? 1.00
00:37:29.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:37:29.000 He started this. 1.00
00:37:31.000 So he started this because when he won the Academy Award for, I want to say it was Apocalypse Now, he had a Native American guy go on stage and take it in his place to highlight the plight of Native Americans.
00:37:43.000 Maybe it was a different movie, but it became his big political speech.
00:37:48.000 Marlon Brando was crazy. 0.87
00:37:49.000 Yeah.
00:37:50.000 For The Godfather.
00:37:50.000 The Godfather.
00:37:51.000 Thank you.
00:37:52.000 So he had this guy go up and accept the award in his place and give some speech.
00:37:57.000 It was a woman? 1.00
00:37:58.000 Yeah.
00:37:58.000 Oh, okay.
00:37:59.000 So then it just became like a culture of trying to one-up each other.
00:38:02.000 Is that what's going on?
00:38:02.000 I don't even know if it really was him, but I just know that that was a big one.
00:38:05.000 It's unbearable.
00:38:05.000 It's unbearable.
00:38:06.000 It's a little odd.
00:38:07.000 Yeah, and I can't stand it.
00:38:09.000 It drives me insane, but that's a huge difference.
00:38:11.000 That doesn't mean that I think that celebrities can't do good in the world.
00:38:14.000 It's just that this celebrity grandstanding is unbearable.
00:38:17.000 Give me some volume on this, Jamie.
00:38:19.000 Look at Roger Moore, looking all good.
00:38:21.000 Oh, so this woman... 1.00
00:38:22.000 Hold on, go back to...
00:38:24.000 Marlon Brando, The Godfather.
00:38:27.000 And so now...
00:38:28.000 Accepting the award for Marlon Brando and The Godfather, Miss Chassine Littlefeather.
00:38:35.000 Littlefeather.
00:38:36.000 Her name's Littlefeather. 1.00
00:38:37.000 Holy shit. 1.00
00:38:39.000 Look at look at them. 1.00
00:38:41.000 They're like we can't say shit even back then nobody knew what to do like She's hot as fuck. 0.99
00:38:54.000 She's really pretty And he has asked me to tell you in a very long speech which I cannot share with you presently and Because of time, but I will be glad to share with the press afterwards that he, very regretfully, 0.99
00:39:11.000 cannot accept this very generous award.
00:39:15.000 And the reasons for this being are the treatment of American Indians today by the film industry.
00:39:23.000 Excuse me.
00:39:27.000 People are booing.
00:39:28.000 Some are clapping.
00:39:34.000 And on television, in movie reruns, and also with recent happenings at Wounded Knee.
00:39:41.000 I beg at this time that I have not intruded upon this evening, and that we will, in the future, our hearts and our understandings will meet with love.
00:39:54.000 Wounded Knee.
00:39:55.000 Pause for a second.
00:39:56.000 Isn't that what was going on just a...
00:39:59.000 Isn't it the same place where a couple years ago?
00:40:03.000 No, that wasn't Wounded Knee.
00:40:04.000 What was that?
00:40:05.000 Standing Rock.
00:40:06.000 Right, okay.
00:40:07.000 Yeah, Wounded Knee.
00:40:08.000 Oh, crazy.
00:40:08.000 Standing Rock, Wounded Knee.
00:40:09.000 Wow, I did not know that, like, this is...
00:40:11.000 Heavy head.
00:40:11.000 Wow, this is where it all began.
00:40:13.000 That's where it all began.
00:40:14.000 Wow, so since then people have just been trying to one-up each other.
00:40:17.000 Maybe.
00:40:18.000 I might have made that up.
00:40:19.000 And Oprah won.
00:40:19.000 Like, she, like, won.
00:40:20.000 Yeah, she came in around the perfect time.
00:40:23.000 Yeah, she was like, yes.
00:40:24.000 NBC wrote, this is our president.
00:40:26.000 They tweeted it.
00:40:28.000 It's insane.
00:40:29.000 It's like they're not even pretending, which I appreciate now.
00:40:31.000 They're not pretending to be the news anymore.
00:40:33.000 They're just like, we hate Trump and we are the propaganda machine that will tell you every reason why you should hate Trump.
00:40:39.000 It was just the NBC Twitter.
00:40:41.000 It said something like, something amazing speech by our president.
00:40:44.000 I was just like, wow.
00:40:46.000 It was like the opposite of outrage culture, which I don't even know what it is.
00:40:50.000 Run, run, run.
00:40:51.000 You have to run because he gave a speech.
00:40:53.000 The woman who brought you The Secret and Dr. Oz.
00:40:57.000 It's just like I can't take anything seriously anymore.
00:41:01.000 Well, there's things to be taken seriously, but celebrities probably aren't on that list.
00:41:05.000 Yeah, it's hard.
00:41:06.000 So Ben Shapiro's right.
00:41:07.000 Yeah, well, he's right about this, but he was trying to correlate what Kim did with Alice Marie Johnson with that, and I'm like, come on, man, that's totally different.
00:41:15.000 And just in general, sometimes he just gets a little hall monitor for me.
00:41:19.000 Well, he can't help himself.
00:41:21.000 I know.
00:41:21.000 He's a funny guy.
00:41:22.000 He's very snarky.
00:41:23.000 I like him a lot.
00:41:24.000 I like him too.
00:41:25.000 That's the thing.
00:41:25.000 We actually really get along.
00:41:27.000 But the hall monitor, I know these types in school.
00:41:30.000 I was in their classes.
00:41:32.000 They're just late to school.
00:41:34.000 The last person you want to see is the hall monitor.
00:41:38.000 The idea that you would be late.
00:41:41.000 He's writing you a pink slip.
00:41:43.000 It's like, Ben, just give me the pink slip, dude.
00:41:46.000 Just give it to me, Ben.
00:41:48.000 This is a gateway to Saturday school.
00:41:50.000 That's a good impression of him.
00:41:53.000 You gotta talk a little faster, though.
00:41:54.000 He talks a little faster, you can't even understand what he's saying.
00:41:56.000 You're like, I can't do that.
00:41:57.000 How do you do that?
00:41:58.000 How do you do that?
00:41:59.000 I can't do that.
00:42:00.000 And he's doing it sober.
00:42:01.000 There's some dudes who do that, they're all Adderalled up.
00:42:03.000 No, he's on the natch.
00:42:05.000 Yeah, he does that, man.
00:42:06.000 But I like him.
00:42:07.000 I liked these kids in school.
00:42:08.000 I'd just be like, you know, I was just the kid that was just kind of more chill. 0.96
00:42:12.000 And sometimes when he just goes over stupid stuff, it's like... 0.97
00:42:15.000 But I do wonder if he's learning anymore. 0.98
00:42:18.000 That's the one thing.
00:42:19.000 Yeah, because he doesn't like to have...
00:42:22.000 It's like once he has an opinion, I like to have conversations, and I like to be wrong about the conversations, because I don't know everything.
00:42:29.000 I think that's kind of why people love this podcast so much, because...
00:42:31.000 You're open to learning anything.
00:42:33.000 You'll have people on this podcast, you're like, who's he having?
00:42:36.000 Because there's always something that you can learn.
00:42:39.000 There's always something that you don't understand that you don't know.
00:42:41.000 If you have an open mind.
00:42:42.000 If you have an open mind.
00:42:43.000 And I think that in many ways that sometimes he's just not open to learning about certain things.
00:42:50.000 And that somebody might know something about a culture beyond what he knows.
00:42:54.000 And it's just like, nope, the idea.
00:42:58.000 It just drives me crazy. 0.99
00:43:00.000 I think Ben is really fucking smart. 0.99
00:43:03.000 And that's the problem. 0.99
00:43:04.000 That's the problem.
00:43:05.000 Exactly. 1.00
00:43:05.000 He thinks other people are stupid. 1.00
00:43:06.000 He thinks everyone is stupid. 1.00
00:43:07.000 You're not as smart as me. 1.00
00:43:08.000 You can't talk as fast as me. 0.93
00:43:09.000 That's it.
00:43:09.000 I hated it.
00:43:10.000 I got so annoyed with the Kanye West four seconds. 0.85
00:43:13.000 He writes an article saying Kanye West is just crazy.
00:43:15.000 Who did this?
00:43:17.000 Ben did?
00:43:17.000 Yeah, and I wrote him an email.
00:43:18.000 I was just like, dude, like, I understand that to you and the way that you've done your life, this doesn't make sense, right?
00:43:23.000 But this is actually really important for black people to see this.
00:43:27.000 The Kanye West thing?
00:43:27.000 It was the most important thing.
00:43:29.000 Which thing was it?
00:43:30.000 Him, like, you know, him tweeting out, I love the way Ken Stone sings, but beyond that, saying that he openly supported the president.
00:43:35.000 So I can see why Ben shuts something like that down initially, because to him, like, Culture is not the way you talk about politics, right?
00:43:42.000 Because he's by the book.
00:43:43.000 But he has to understand that by the book is not the way people in the hood are being raised.
00:43:47.000 By the book is not the way people in the projects are being raised.
00:43:50.000 These people have had their families destroyed and decimated by the welfare system, right?
00:43:54.000 The fathers aren't even at the homes.
00:43:55.000 The single motherhood rate jumped from 25% in 1965 to 74% today.
00:44:00.000 And so these kids turn to culture.
00:44:03.000 To father them.
00:44:04.000 They turn to Jay-Z and Beyonce and hip-hop and Kanye and to tell them what's right and what's wrong.
00:44:09.000 So for so long, because the left has had a stranglehold on culture, they've had a stranglehold on black America.
00:44:14.000 So the most significant thing that opened up this dialogue beyond the work that I was doing was this simple tweet and this simple show of support from Kanye West. 0.83
00:44:23.000 And I was so frustrated that he had to, in that moment, dismiss him as crazy.
00:44:29.000 It's just like, dude, just be willing to learn. 0.98
00:44:31.000 Just be willing to say, I don't understand why the hell this is the way that Black people are willing to talk about politics, right? 1.00
00:44:38.000 But maybe there's something here.
00:44:40.000 And I always understood that culture was the most important vertical.
00:44:43.000 When Charlie and I first met and we sat down, I defined three verticals.
00:44:45.000 I don't know who Charlie is.
00:44:46.000 You mentioned him a couple times.
00:44:47.000 I don't know Charlie Kirk.
00:44:48.000 Okay, so Charlie Kirk is like this...
00:44:51.000 We started Turning Point USA, who I worked for, when he was 18. And he is a savant.
00:44:56.000 They call him Trump's Boy Wonder.
00:44:59.000 He's brilliant.
00:45:00.000 If you want to talk about smart, the smartest person I know is Charlie Kirk, hands down.
00:45:04.000 And he's only 24. He didn't go to college, just reading weird stuff when he was seven.
00:45:11.000 Everyone's like, oh yeah, I just read that Thomas Sowell.
00:45:13.000 He's like, yes, I read it when I was six.
00:45:14.000 I'm like, what?
00:45:16.000 Could you not say that?
00:45:17.000 Could you be cool?
00:45:18.000 But so when Charlie and I met and I told him my plan to sort of help black America and to wake them up because I understood how we had fallen victim to this brainwash.
00:45:27.000 What brainwash is that?
00:45:29.000 The leftist dogma.
00:45:30.000 There's this idea that because we're black we have to vote Democrat and anybody that is not a Democrat is racist and against helping us.
00:45:36.000 That is like what so many black Americans believe.
00:45:38.000 I believed it.
00:45:39.000 I believed it.
00:45:40.000 You know what I mean?
00:45:40.000 And I'm a pretty smart girl.
00:45:42.000 I've always been a very smart girl.
00:45:44.000 I've always excelled in academics.
00:45:48.000 So how did I fall victim to it?
00:45:50.000 The exact same system.
00:45:51.000 These three verticals.
00:45:52.000 The first being the family, the breakdown of the family.
00:45:54.000 The second one being culture, which then to me, growing up, it was like Jay-Z. Jay-Z was God to me.
00:46:00.000 I went through a lot of stuff when I was a kid.
00:46:03.000 I didn't have a great family.
00:46:04.000 You know, but I would throw on a Jay-Z album and like whatever he said was like, it was like going to church, you know?
00:46:10.000 And then, and I can't stand him now, but the third vertical...
00:46:14.000 You can't stand him now? 0.99
00:46:14.000 No, because he knows exactly what he's doing and he's a traitor. 0.99
00:46:17.000 But the third vertical being education, which was...
00:46:20.000 What a casual aside. 1.00
00:46:23.000 He's a traitor. 0.99
00:46:24.000 How's he a traitor? 0.99
00:46:26.000 Because he knows what's happening to black America and he's somebody that built his entire career off the backs of black America, you know, of being the guy who started in the hood in Queens and was a drug dealer and worked his way up and he became the idol for so many people in black America. 0.72
00:46:40.000 And then he stands on stage and endorses Hillary Clinton.
00:46:43.000 He stands on stage and tells black America to put the same people in the White House that locked up more black men than any president in the history of the United States, Bill Clinton. 0.56
00:46:51.000 The person that stands on the Crime Bill of 94 is Bill Clinton.
00:46:53.000 But because Jay-Z is now focused on getting a piece of the pie, the globalist piece of the pie, he doesn't care about black America.
00:46:59.000 That's my opinion.
00:47:01.000 Do you think that's what it was? 0.79
00:47:03.000 Or do you think that maybe he thought that Donald Trump represented a lot of racist white people? 0.90
00:47:07.000 No.
00:47:07.000 He didn't want that in office.
00:47:08.000 Oh, God, no.
00:47:09.000 You don't think so?
00:47:10.000 Not even kind of.
00:47:11.000 No, you don't think he felt that?
00:47:12.000 Not for a single second.
00:47:14.000 How do you know?
00:47:14.000 Because Jay-Z is very smart.
00:47:15.000 Did you speak to him?
00:47:16.000 No, I didn't speak to him.
00:47:17.000 I know.
00:47:18.000 There's a certain thing where I know that Jay-Z and Beyonce betrayed the black community.
00:47:23.000 So you think they did it purposely for financial gain?
00:47:26.000 Yeah, I think that they were interested in having...
00:47:28.000 They want to be the people that control the world.
00:47:31.000 And they felt that Hillary Clinton... 1.00
00:47:32.000 They were working with Obama very closely.
00:47:35.000 And very clearly now, we know that the Obama administration worked very hard to get Hillary Clinton into office.
00:47:40.000 And they wanted to stay in that group.
00:47:43.000 And so they supported Hillary Clinton who was selected behind closed doors, forget the American people, to be the next president of the United States.
00:47:50.000 Yeah, selected certainly by the DNC. Yeah, 100%.
00:47:54.000 But beyond that, it was in bed with Obama.
00:47:56.000 She was our Secretary of State, and she was doing deals behind closed doors. 1.00
00:47:59.000 And Jay-Z and Beyonce were a part of that clique.
00:48:02.000 So they were a part of the celebrated celebrities that were allowed to go to the White House, and they'd wear the ties, and everybody would be taking photo ops.
00:48:10.000 But it was a cool thing to be friends with Obama.
00:48:13.000 Nobody wants to go to the White House and celebrities, it's hard to get celebrities to go with Trump.
00:48:18.000 There's so much controversy attached to it.
00:48:20.000 It could damage your career.
00:48:21.000 They get attacked.
00:48:22.000 Look at Roseanne.
00:48:23.000 They get attacked by people on the left and right.
00:48:25.000 Part of what's happening with Roseanne is not just that she made a racist tweet, even though she didn't know it was racist.
00:48:30.000 She supports Trump and then her character supports Trump.
00:48:34.000 Correct.
00:48:35.000 And people were looking for something to hate her over and she handed it to them.
00:48:39.000 Well, it's just, you stick your neck out in that way.
00:48:45.000 People on the left, for sure, look at anyone who's a Trump supporter as an open target, even if they're a reasonable person, even if they're a person who's kind and measured and very even-keeled.
00:48:57.000 Like Ivanka?
00:48:57.000 The nicest person I think I've ever met is Ivanka Trump.
00:49:00.000 And she never responds, never punches back.
00:49:03.000 And look how they treat her. 0.99
00:49:05.000 Well, that's how Samantha Bee did it. 1.00
00:49:07.000 But yeah, other people have gone after her, too.
00:49:09.000 All the time they go after Ivanka.
00:49:10.000 And I'm like, she's such a kind person.
00:49:12.000 But it's just because her father is Donald Trump, so it's open season.
00:49:17.000 That's why Jake Tapper jumps into a tweet about Chelsea Handler and tries to correlate Trump.
00:49:21.000 It's like they're obsessed with people that like Trump.
00:49:25.000 I like Trump.
00:49:26.000 I don't know what to say.
00:49:26.000 I like the guy.
00:49:27.000 I think he's really funny.
00:49:28.000 We have a photo of Jake Tapper on the news the day of the election.
00:49:32.000 We did a comedy...
00:49:33.000 We did a podcast from the Comedy Store.
00:49:36.000 We call it the End of the World Podcast.
00:49:38.000 Yeah.
00:49:38.000 A bunch of people...
00:49:39.000 Because we're like, whoever the fuck wins, it's the end of the world. 0.98
00:49:41.000 Right? 0.98
00:49:41.000 So we had this live podcast. 0.98
00:49:44.000 And...
00:49:45.000 I went into the green room afterwards, to the comedian's bar, and Jake Tapper was on TV, and he was so bummed out.
00:49:51.000 And I took a photo of him, like him on the screen, you could tell.
00:49:55.000 Yeah, like the sadness.
00:49:56.000 I remember his face.
00:49:57.000 He was really sad.
00:49:58.000 He was like a sad puppy.
00:49:59.000 Do you see where you can find it?
00:50:00.000 Oh my god, it's really funny.
00:50:01.000 He was so bummed out.
00:50:02.000 I think Mike Cernovich did the best, like he spliced together all of the clips of just like, it was exceptional.
00:50:08.000 The news anchors and the emotion that was coming out of them.
00:50:10.000 He did some like...
00:50:12.000 The crazy thing is all of them that said he'll never win.
00:50:14.000 I know.
00:50:15.000 He'll never win.
00:50:15.000 And now we have that forever.
00:50:17.000 You know, it's forever.
00:50:19.000 They laughed.
00:50:19.000 They laughed.
00:50:20.000 I remember there was a moment where Ann Coulter, they said, so who do you have winning?
00:50:23.000 And she says, Donald Trump.
00:50:24.000 And they broke into laughter, like the cool kids at the lunch table.
00:50:30.000 And that's really how they've been acting.
00:50:32.000 They're not interested.
00:50:33.000 They think that they're the cool kids.
00:50:35.000 At the lunch table.
00:50:37.000 And they get to define what's cool.
00:50:38.000 And they're just having a rude awakening right now.
00:50:41.000 And it's beautiful to watch.
00:50:42.000 I love it.
00:50:42.000 I love it.
00:50:43.000 Everybody loves an upset, too.
00:50:44.000 People love an upset.
00:50:45.000 And then they also, once their team gets in, then they want to support their team. 0.98
00:50:48.000 So they fucked up by making it tribal. 0.99
00:50:51.000 They really did. 1.00
00:50:52.000 Because you go tribal right versus left, people go, well, fuck these guys. 1.00
00:50:56.000 Fuck Jake Tapper. 1.00
00:50:57.000 I'm going on this side. 1.00
00:50:58.000 That's my team now.
00:51:00.000 Woo! 0.99
00:51:00.000 Go Steelers! 0.99
00:51:01.000 Exactly.
00:51:02.000 That's what happens.
00:51:03.000 It's like teams.
00:51:03.000 It's like sports fanatics right now.
00:51:06.000 It doesn't even matter.
00:51:07.000 There's little sense anymore.
00:51:08.000 It's just like this is the team that I've pledged my life to.
00:51:11.000 And part of that is ego.
00:51:12.000 You just spent how many months calling everybody racist, sexist, deplorable?
00:51:16.000 Are you really going to go, man, you know what?
00:51:17.000 I was wrong.
00:51:18.000 They have to hold on to something.
00:51:19.000 And I see that because when I went to this prison reform summit, Van Jones was there.
00:51:26.000 And Donald Trump was speaking.
00:51:28.000 And it was like love between them.
00:51:30.000 It was love.
00:51:30.000 This is the guy that said white lash, you know, right after the election.
00:51:34.000 And he, you know, but how can he go back from that?
00:51:36.000 It's very hard to, you know, pedal backward from that.
00:51:39.000 So half of them are fake, in my opinion.
00:51:41.000 I find them to be fake because I've seen them behind closed doors.
00:51:44.000 They don't feel that animosity for the president because it's hard to.
00:51:46.000 He's really likable.
00:51:48.000 I mean, like his presence, when you meet him, he's very aware of himself.
00:51:51.000 He's aware of the jokes that are being made about him.
00:51:53.000 He'll make the jokes about himself.
00:51:55.000 Really?
00:51:55.000 Yeah, he's likable.
00:51:57.000 He just has something about him.
00:51:59.000 Think about when he makes a tweet on Memorial Day, saying that the dead soldiers would be really happy to know how good the economy is doing and how black unemployment is the lowest it's ever been. 1.00
00:52:10.000 That shit was ridiculous. 1.00
00:52:12.000 I actually miss that tweet. 1.00
00:52:13.000 I'm just laughing because every time someone says a Trump tweet, I laugh.
00:52:16.000 I just think it's funny.
00:52:17.000 Well, someone wrote that he put the me in Memorial Day.
00:52:21.000 That was an article about it.
00:52:24.000 I'm telling you, man.
00:52:25.000 It's so clueless.
00:52:25.000 We're going in a different direction.
00:52:27.000 I predict in 2020, he's not going to go on CNN. He's going to be here.
00:52:31.000 He just wants to talk.
00:52:32.000 And it's really hard.
00:52:33.000 It's really hard for these people to speak because what happens is they go onto a stage and the room, they love him.
00:52:39.000 Everyone loves him because he's really likable.
00:52:42.000 You can't be in a room with Trump and not laugh and like him.
00:52:44.000 Jake Tapper is wearing out his fingers right now tweeting about you.
00:52:48.000 I know.
00:52:48.000 I know.
00:52:49.000 But then they take away the clips and they splice it up and they make it look like he said something bad.
00:52:53.000 But what they're doing is it's a terrible game to play because you're not just lying on Trump.
00:52:57.000 You're lying on 50,000 people, you know, the thousands of people that are there to hear him speak.
00:53:02.000 Right.
00:53:03.000 Like, so they're playing a game where then those people get pissed off.
00:53:06.000 Wait a minute.
00:53:06.000 You think they're playing a game where they're misinterpreting the things that he said?
00:53:09.000 He said plenty of shit. 1.00
00:53:11.000 It's ridiculous that they don't have to misinterpret. 1.00
00:53:14.000 For example, that moment when he says, oh, if this was the old days, we'd take you out to the back.
00:53:20.000 Do you remember that moment when he said while he was running and somebody was causing a circus in the crowd and he was like, get him out of here.
00:53:28.000 And then the way they ran it, right? 0.65
00:53:30.000 Like, oh, in the old days when they used to hang black people from trees. 1.00
00:53:33.000 What? 0.97
00:53:35.000 What? 1.00
00:53:35.000 I think he literally meant that you used to be able to get your ass kicked. 1.00
00:53:38.000 Get your ass kicked. 1.00
00:53:38.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:53:39.000 That's how they spin it.
00:53:40.000 Right. 0.81
00:53:40.000 And then the same thing with when he said to black people, what do you have to lose? 0.81
00:53:43.000 Prior to that, he had listed every stat where quite literally you got to end of it and you're like, you don't have anything to lose here. 0.81
00:53:47.000 But then they get that clip and they're like, Trump is insulting black America.
00:53:51.000 He's saying that they all live in...
00:53:53.000 No, he's saying that statistically speaking, if you look at the people that live in the projects, look at the people that are in poverty, it is black America.
00:53:59.000 So he's asking, the past administrations have not been serving you.
00:54:03.000 What do you have to lose?
00:54:04.000 Hmm.
00:54:04.000 So it frustrates me because it's like you see that they mix it up and they try to divide the country.
00:54:11.000 But at the end of the day, unfortunately for them, he's actually really likable.
00:54:14.000 And same for Don Trump Jr. Like, I mean, they're really funny, they're really likable, and they're aware of themselves.
00:54:20.000 Like, they're in on the joke, guys.
00:54:21.000 Like...
00:54:22.000 Well, Jamie was telling me the other day that they made some video.
00:54:26.000 What was the video that they made?
00:54:27.000 See if you can find that video.
00:54:28.000 It was really funny where they were all mocking themselves about that.
00:54:31.000 What was it about?
00:54:33.000 The Laurel and...
00:54:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:54:36.000 The two words.
00:54:36.000 I actually haven't even heard the words that everyone was talking about.
00:54:38.000 I haven't either. 1.00
00:54:39.000 I'm like, fuck you. 1.00
00:54:40.000 I'm not paying attention to that stupid shit. 1.00
00:54:41.000 I will not listen to the word. 1.00
00:54:43.000 Which word do you hear?
00:54:44.000 I don't care.
00:54:46.000 I literally don't care.
00:54:47.000 I didn't even listen to the word.
00:54:48.000 But yeah, they made fun of themselves.
00:54:49.000 Yeah, let's see it.
00:54:50.000 We'll play it.
00:54:51.000 Kelly and Conway was the best.
00:54:52.000 Give it to us from the beginning, young Jamie.
00:54:55.000 That's a different one?
00:54:56.000 No, the news put it up, so I gotta get the real one.
00:54:59.000 Oh, okay, okay.
00:55:01.000 It's hilarious that they have...
00:55:03.000 I mean, this is actually a very clever thing to do.
00:55:07.000 But they're all like that.
00:55:08.000 Like, Ivanka, they're all aware of the joke.
00:55:10.000 They're gonna hit you on an ad here, for sure.
00:55:12.000 Do you got an ad blocker on?
00:55:13.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:55:13.000 You clever bastard. 1.00
00:55:15.000 Here we go. 1.00
00:55:16.000 So clearly Laurel.
00:55:20.000 It's Laurel.
00:55:22.000 Definitely Laurel.
00:55:24.000 It's Laurel.
00:55:26.000 But I could deflect and divert to Yanny if you need me to. 0.81
00:55:29.000 Why does it do that?
00:55:30.000 Why does it freeze like that?
00:55:31.000 Yanny. 0.77
00:55:31.000 Definitely Yanny. 0.77
00:55:33.000 Yanny's...
00:55:33.000 I don't know.
00:55:34.000 It's...
00:55:34.000 Sorry.
00:55:35.000 It's a winner. 0.99
00:55:37.000 Laurel's a loser. 0.97
00:55:38.000 Sarah, it's been reported that you hear Laurel. 0.99
00:55:41.000 How do you respond?
00:55:42.000 Clearly you're getting your information from CNN because that's fake news.
00:55:46.000 All I hear is Yanny.
00:55:48.000 Oh man, that's Laurel.
00:55:50.000 Stop this.
00:55:52.000 What is wrong here?
00:55:53.000 There's something going on today.
00:55:54.000 The thing's messing up.
00:55:55.000 What is messing up?
00:55:58.000 TriCaster?
00:55:58.000 We gotta do that thing we were talking about and fix that.
00:56:01.000 Anyway.
00:56:02.000 The idea is that these people had this sense of humor.
00:56:07.000 And then Trump at the end, he's doing it?
00:56:09.000 What is he saying?
00:56:15.000 Yeah, that's the thing.
00:56:17.000 They're in on the joke, and I think that people don't realize how in on the joke they are.
00:56:24.000 He's aware that you say all of this stuff about the fact that he tweets out and says all of this stuff.
00:56:28.000 Don Trump Jr. is aware that he's a billionaire's son, and that's what people say.
00:56:32.000 Oh, you're a billionaire's son.
00:56:34.000 They're so funny and that it's sad that people don't get to see that side so I actually do hope that they all come on this show because it's people should actually see how hilarious they are and how aware of themselves they're like the most to me in my opinion the most likable relatable first family like of my lifetime like you know I can't speak to anyone but they're so you didn't think that Obama You know what's funny?
00:57:01.000 I was at a dinner last night with people that came over from Cuba, and this woman said that when she first heard Obama speak, and she was way older, she broke down crying because it reminded her of the first time she heard Fidel Castro speak, which is a bizarre thing to say.
00:57:15.000 I was just like, what?
00:57:16.000 I don't know anything.
00:57:17.000 I've never been to Cuba.
00:57:18.000 And they got scared that America was going to turn into a communist country.
00:57:22.000 It was with a bunch of Cubans.
00:57:23.000 What?
00:57:24.000 Yeah, crazy, right?
00:57:25.000 Like, it literally came out of their mouths.
00:57:27.000 They might have PTSD. No, but what they say...
00:57:30.000 It could be.
00:57:31.000 But what they were saying was, like...
00:57:34.000 The veneer of it all.
00:57:35.000 It was exactly what you wanted to hear Obama said in the perfect tone, with the perfect hand mannerism, with the perfect inflection in his voice.
00:57:47.000 And there's something about that to me, especially the person that I am, that just was super inauthentic.
00:57:52.000 And I'm not saying, by the way, when Obama won in 2008, I cried.
00:57:54.000 Let me not be fake here.
00:57:57.000 Get happy.
00:57:57.000 I was like, he's black, I'm black, everything's gonna be great, you know?
00:58:01.000 But, you know, as things went on and I was watching him, it just, everything seemed so fake and he wasn't really doing anything.
00:58:08.000 So I just don't respond to that sort of a personality.
00:58:11.000 I like people that are authentic and I think that's why Trump coming in behind him It was so relatable as a president.
00:58:17.000 There's this theory, and it's a good one, by Timur Karan, that why do revolutions take place unexpectedly?
00:58:25.000 You could argue that right now America is having a revolution.
00:58:28.000 We're not out there shooting each other, but there's an ideological revolution, a cultural war, if you want to call it, that's taking place.
00:58:34.000 And to many people, this seems unexpected, right?
00:58:35.000 Obama was in office and then like, whoa, went to Donald Trump.
00:58:39.000 You know?
00:58:39.000 And the theory is that when the public and the private of an individual, our personas, get too far apart, a natural revolution takes place.
00:58:47.000 And society really has just been so fake.
00:58:50.000 I mean, like, everything offends you.
00:58:53.000 Everywhere you go, people get offended by people's hair.
00:58:55.000 Like, literally.
00:58:57.000 Carcassians will put their hair in braids and the whole internet will explode, saying that they need to pay tribute to Africa. 0.97
00:59:04.000 Like, it's crazy.
00:59:04.000 I'm like, I have never in my life Looked at someone's hair and felt emotional.
00:59:08.000 I'm just like, whatever you're doing, your hair is fine with me.
00:59:10.000 Like, if you took the time to do it, it's fine with me.
00:59:13.000 But the idea is just that, as a culture, we've become so fake.
00:59:16.000 Do you think that that's fake?
00:59:17.000 I think there's people just looking and get angry at things.
00:59:19.000 I think it's fake.
00:59:20.000 Particularly the braids thing.
00:59:21.000 It's fake.
00:59:22.000 It's fake.
00:59:22.000 It's 100%.
00:59:23.000 There's no person that can tell me that, like, the first time they saw a braid on someone's hair and upset them.
00:59:27.000 But then somebody told them that they should be upset.
00:59:29.000 But privately, when they're at home, do you really think that they get upset when they're watching TV? Yes, I think they do.
00:59:33.000 I think there's some people that get upset at a lot of stupid shit. 1.00
00:59:36.000 I don't think they're inauthentic with their being upset. 1.00
00:59:39.000 I just think their focus and their anger is just misguided and dumb. 0.99
00:59:44.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:59:44.000 Maybe it's the dumb part. 1.00
00:59:45.000 Maybe it's just when it gets too dumb, a revolution takes place. 1.00
00:59:48.000 They were going after people with hoop earrings and shit. 1.00
00:59:50.000 It's like crazy. 0.99
00:59:51.000 Like Bantu Braids, you need to pay tribute to the island of Jamaica. 0.98
00:59:53.000 I'm like, first off, you've got to be a really inspired person to even look up why you're offended.
00:59:58.000 That takes a lot of research.
00:59:59.000 Who's researching who started the Bantu Knot?
01:00:03.000 Who started the cornrow?
01:00:05.000 I'm like, you've got a lot of time on your hands.
01:00:07.000 For me personally, if I could just not have to research why I'm offended...
01:00:11.000 Have a little more time.
01:00:13.000 Mass ejections.
01:00:14.000 Boom.
01:00:15.000 Power grid goes down.
01:00:16.000 Lightning storms.
01:00:17.000 Million times greater than anything you've ever known.
01:00:20.000 And we wouldn't be worrying about braids anymore.
01:00:21.000 I know.
01:00:22.000 It's insane.
01:00:22.000 We're too easy.
01:00:23.000 It's too easy.
01:00:23.000 It's too easy to live.
01:00:24.000 There's no wolves in the street.
01:00:25.000 There's no humor either.
01:00:26.000 And that's another thing.
01:00:27.000 It's like, especially like you, a former stand-up comedian, right?
01:00:31.000 I'm current.
01:00:32.000 How dare you?
01:00:33.000 But do you tour and do you do comedy? 1.00
01:00:34.000 This fucking show's over. 1.00
01:00:36.000 Hang up on her. 1.00
01:00:37.000 Yeah, constantly.
01:00:38.000 I'm doing stand-up tonight.
01:00:40.000 Okay, so...
01:00:40.000 Do you speak?
01:00:41.000 I don't speak ever.
01:00:42.000 Speaking right now.
01:00:43.000 Do I go places? 1.00
01:00:45.000 You do that shit. 1.00
01:00:46.000 I don't do that shit. 1.00
01:00:47.000 Do you do that shit? 1.00
01:00:47.000 I don't know. 1.00
01:00:47.000 The Joe Rogan show on the road could just be having conversations with the crowd. 1.00
01:00:50.000 People love to talk to you.
01:00:51.000 That's tiresome.
01:00:53.000 I like to do stand-up and then hide.
01:00:54.000 The thing is, is it difficult when you're standing?
01:00:57.000 You can't say anything anymore.
01:00:58.000 It's like five seconds and your whole life can be over.
01:01:01.000 You can. 0.99
01:01:01.000 You just have to legitimately not give a fuck. 0.99
01:01:03.000 And have a bunch of good friends that you really love and you surround yourself with loving people and you all support each other. 0.99
01:01:10.000 And then when people get mad at you, you go, eh.
01:01:12.000 That's what I do.
01:01:13.000 People don't realize, I think they don't realize how little I care about their outrage.
01:01:16.000 I always say to myself, I wonder if they knew how little I cared if they actually write the article. 0.99
01:01:20.000 Like if they actually knew how little I give a shit. 0.99
01:01:22.000 Well, you care a little. 0.99
01:01:22.000 Are you still talking about Jake Tapper and Ben Shapiro? 0.99
01:01:25.000 No, because I'm fascinated by it.
01:01:26.000 I'm fascinated by that.
01:01:27.000 Because Jake Tapper was like a day where they all were just like, ah!
01:01:31.000 He's ringing his fist right now.
01:01:33.000 It was over.
01:01:34.000 The next day it was over.
01:01:36.000 Just now with Ben Shapiro, it's like, no one cares.
01:01:38.000 I don't care.
01:01:39.000 I know Ben doesn't care.
01:01:40.000 We're going to see each other in one week.
01:01:41.000 In two weeks in Texas, we're doing an event together.
01:01:44.000 I see him all the time, and I like him.
01:01:46.000 But to everyone else, they're weighing in.
01:01:49.000 So this is your business, though.
01:01:51.000 You're in the business of politics now.
01:01:53.000 Now, this is what I want to get to.
01:01:54.000 How do you go from being a liberal who cried when Obama was elected, he's black, I'm black, yay!
01:02:00.000 How do you go from that to being Miss Conservative poster girl in 2018?
01:02:06.000 Because that's what you are, 10 years later.
01:02:08.000 I guess, yeah.
01:02:08.000 No, you are.
01:02:09.000 Like, a lot of people that are conservative, they love the fact that you're attractive, you're smart, you're articulate, you're black, and you're fucking forceful with your thoughts and ideas, and you push them through quick, and you're not scared of pissing people off. 0.70
01:02:21.000 And this is very exciting to conservative people that are on the sidelines, like, yeah! 0.95
01:02:25.000 It's like, we got a fucking great running back, you know, we're gonna win the Super Bowl this year. 0.97
01:02:30.000 Like, that's how they look at you. 0.99
01:02:31.000 Like, you're like a great soldier in the field.
01:02:34.000 That's how people look at it.
01:02:35.000 That's fun.
01:02:36.000 I appreciate that.
01:02:37.000 So how do you go from that?
01:02:38.000 What happens?
01:02:39.000 So two things.
01:02:39.000 So to reconcile what happened to me in high school.
01:02:41.000 Right.
01:02:41.000 We got to that and then we got off track.
01:02:44.000 So two things happened after.
01:02:44.000 Two things.
01:02:45.000 That I wanted to do.
01:02:46.000 I wanted to correct the world, I guess.
01:02:48.000 I wanted to correct what had happened to me.
01:02:49.000 So the first thing was I launched a website, like a blog for young girls that were going through things I had gotten out of the eating disorder.
01:02:55.000 And I wanted to just give girls that may be going through something a way to write.
01:02:58.000 So I build this blog.
01:03:00.000 I do 180. I tell them they can write whatever they want.
01:03:01.000 That was the first thing.
01:03:02.000 The second thing I wanted to do was to combat.
01:03:04.000 I felt, and I still feel in my soul, that children today are growing up in a time that people don't even stop to think about.
01:03:11.000 We have ten-year-olds that are killing themselves over Snapchat.
01:03:13.000 Snapchat.
01:03:14.000 Someone posts a picture on Snapchat and they kill themselves.
01:03:17.000 And no one has really thought about how much technology has negatively impacted the ability for a child to grow up.
01:03:23.000 But they're concerned about the way they look.
01:03:25.000 I used to babysit a name to put myself through some years of college.
01:03:31.000 Nannying for these kids, they care about how they look. 0.99
01:03:33.000 When I was 10, I didn't care how I looked.
01:03:36.000 You probably didn't even know how you looked.
01:03:37.000 I didn't even know how I looked.
01:03:38.000 I definitely didn't.
01:03:39.000 I've seen the pictures, right?
01:03:40.000 Right.
01:03:42.000 And now we have kids who are killing themselves.
01:03:44.000 So the second thing I wanted to do, I said, I have this great idea that I'm going to build this project.
01:03:48.000 And this is the social autopsy.
01:03:52.000 Bit that the YouTubers were freaking out about, and they thought that it was a political machine, and it was going to be to help children.
01:03:57.000 I'm not aware of this.
01:03:59.000 What is the social autopsy bit?
01:04:00.000 It never launched.
01:04:01.000 It was an idea that I had to build something that would be like screenshots of what people said online, and to put them in a timeout.
01:04:07.000 So literally, we were going around, we were meeting with high schools, and saying, we're thinking about building something for children.
01:04:13.000 So instead of going to prison because you sent a mean tweet or a mean snap, what if you just couldn't try out for the football team?
01:04:20.000 You know what I mean?
01:04:20.000 Like, what if, like, your teachers checked a database to see, like, how you're behaving online?
01:04:24.000 Was it, like, naive going back?
01:04:26.000 Like, sure.
01:04:28.000 But the idea that the feedback that we were getting from principals was, like, first try on adults, because, like, if this goes awry, like, to do this for children is, like, not going to be a great idea.
01:04:38.000 So I started Kickstarter saying that I'm raising money for this project to help combat online bullying.
01:04:42.000 It was like a project that was so from the heart.
01:04:45.000 It was just like trying to rectify the wrongs that I felt were done for these kids that aggressed me in high school.
01:04:53.000 And instead, I end up in the middle of a firestorm.
01:04:56.000 Again, it's unbelievable.
01:04:57.000 I was like, God, really?
01:05:00.000 Gamergate scandal.
01:05:01.000 Do you know about this?
01:05:03.000 You've spoken to Milo.
01:05:04.000 So I knew nothing about it.
01:05:06.000 I wasn't a gamer.
01:05:06.000 I wasn't online.
01:05:07.000 I wasn't in politics.
01:05:08.000 I knew nothing about it.
01:05:09.000 But I put this Kickstarter up saying, like, what we're doing is figuratively lifting the masks off of trolls.
01:05:16.000 And the internet lost its mind.
01:05:18.000 It lost its mind.
01:05:18.000 And a girl named Zoe Quinn, who was patient one of the Gamergate scandal, calls me.
01:05:23.000 And at this point, she was working for Twitter as the official anti-harassment arm of Twitter.
01:05:28.000 And she basically threatens me and tells me to kill the project. 0.98
01:05:31.000 And I had no idea the bread and butter of the Gamergate scandal.
01:05:33.000 She called you on the phone.
01:05:34.000 She called me on the phone.
01:05:35.000 She contacted me via Twitter.
01:05:36.000 And what were her words that you're saying were threatening?
01:05:39.000 First, she started off with, like, I'm the girl that was the victim of Gamergate, and instantly, to me, it was off.
01:05:44.000 People don't wear a victim like a badge.
01:05:45.000 Like, I knew this, because I had gone through this in high school, and she was like, I'm telling you why you need to kill your project immediately, because there are people, you know, that harass me, and they will harass you if they find out about it.
01:05:56.000 I'm trying to save you, like, you know, and I was kind of like, you know, I appreciate the sentiment, but like, no, thank you.
01:06:00.000 And then she got, like, You know, increasingly like, you have to kill this project.
01:06:04.000 And then she started crying.
01:06:05.000 It was like very bizarre phone call.
01:06:07.000 I'm super confused.
01:06:08.000 So your project was to take the masks off trolls.
01:06:12.000 Figuratively.
01:06:13.000 We never had built a technology.
01:06:14.000 We never like what we were saying, like what we were going to literally do was archive.
01:06:19.000 Okay.
01:06:19.000 Facebook messages.
01:06:20.000 Okay. 1.00
01:06:21.000 Because kids on the internet will literally- Saying mean shit. 1.00
01:06:23.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:06:23.000 Being ruthless. 1.00
01:06:24.000 Yeah.
01:06:24.000 Find their messages.
01:06:26.000 Yeah, and archive it so that- Why did she have an issue with this?
01:06:28.000 I don't understand.
01:06:29.000 Because my Kickstarter said, I guess I said a word that made them think that we were going to be able to unmask Twitter trolls.
01:06:34.000 Like something that we had never even thought of. 0.99
01:06:36.000 Like literally like that we were going to be able to like build a technology- Like people have like an egg and their name is fuck you. 0.99
01:06:41.000 And now I'm going to be like, that's Joe Rogan. 0.99
01:06:43.000 Right, right, right.
01:06:44.000 No, we did not build this.
01:06:46.000 This is crazy.
01:06:47.000 We literally had an idea.
01:06:48.000 The world would probably be a better place if everybody did have to use their real name.
01:06:51.000 I actually am not opposed to that, but we weren't building it.
01:06:54.000 Why was she opposed to it?
01:06:55.000 That's why I'm so confused.
01:06:56.000 Well, you know the bread and butter of the Gamergate scandal is that people say she harassed herself.
01:07:01.000 Okay, I didn't know this.
01:07:02.000 I just hung up the phone with her.
01:07:03.000 Yeah, I hung up the phone with her and she was like, if you go through this project, these were her last words, you're going to ruin everything.
01:07:11.000 Crying and hangs up the phone.
01:07:12.000 I was like, what a...
01:07:14.000 Wait a minute.
01:07:15.000 So you're saying that people think, this is all allegedly, that she harassed herself in order to get attention.
01:07:23.000 And the left media helped her and launched like a thousand charities.
01:07:26.000 Like all of these girls harassed themselves.
01:07:28.000 This is like literally why Milo...
01:07:29.000 I know some people have definitely harassed themselves.
01:07:31.000 Yes.
01:07:32.000 And she was the first person that this like started with.
01:07:34.000 And every one of these gamers, like mind you, I'm not a gamer.
01:07:37.000 I'm just telling you the two sides that I walked into.
01:07:40.000 I didn't know.
01:07:40.000 So I hung up the phone with her and I sent a tweet that was like, don't know who Zoe Quinn is.
01:07:43.000 I can tell you this girl has never been harassed.
01:07:45.000 And the world breaks.
01:07:47.000 Whoa.
01:07:47.000 Okay?
01:07:47.000 But see, what I was going to say, to finish my sentence, I know some people have harassed themselves.
01:07:53.000 They've faked it.
01:07:54.000 Right.
01:07:54.000 But way more people have actually been harassed.
01:07:56.000 I'm sure.
01:07:57.000 I agree.
01:07:58.000 I'm just saying that her in particular.
01:08:00.000 So you said by talking to her, she's never been harassed.
01:08:02.000 100. Dude, I know.
01:08:03.000 You really know for sure?
01:08:04.000 I'm telling you, victims don't...
01:08:06.000 You would never be like, I'm the victim of...
01:08:10.000 It's something that there's...
01:08:11.000 They do that.
01:08:12.000 They do do that.
01:08:13.000 They enjoy it. 1.00
01:08:32.000 Die, n-word, die. 1.00
01:08:34.000 If you go through it, we're going to kill you. 1.00
01:08:35.000 I was like, well, this is kind of perfect, right? 0.99
01:08:38.000 You warn me, and then it happens within an hour.
01:08:41.000 We had no messages, nothing, and then all of a sudden, I was full on, and I was like, no, no, no, sweetheart, you did this.
01:08:47.000 You orchestrated this.
01:08:48.000 And she had been accused of doing this five times.
01:08:51.000 Milo and Breitbart were just covering all of the instances that people have accused her of.
01:08:55.000 She calls them, and then they get harassed.
01:08:57.000 She calls them, and then they get harassed.
01:08:59.000 And I didn't give a...
01:09:00.000 I had no horse in the race.
01:09:01.000 I don't care about, you know, gamers, respectfully.
01:09:03.000 I don't game, right?
01:09:04.000 I didn't care about politics, you know, respectfully.
01:09:07.000 At that time, I wasn't politicking.
01:09:08.000 I just had a phone call with a girl.
01:09:10.000 It was a little weird phone call.
01:09:11.000 And then suddenly I was getting inundated with emails.
01:09:14.000 And you were just making YouTube videos at the time.
01:09:16.000 No. 0.85
01:09:16.000 I was literally like fully doing this degree 180 thing and I was gonna really try to build this high school like this thing to help kids that everyone says you docs minors like literally like we were building this platform so that children would never have to be like get in serious trouble for doing stupid stuff like via technology ever again. 0.85
01:09:32.000 She messaged me.
01:09:33.000 I gave it to her.
01:09:33.000 She messaged me on Twitter.
01:09:34.000 She was like Burnt Witch or something. 0.99
01:09:37.000 Literally, her handle was Burnt Witch.
01:09:39.000 And at that time, I wasn't even on Twitter.
01:09:41.000 I had just made a Twitter profile, and I see someone that has a checkmark, and it says official whatever handle of Twitter.
01:09:47.000 So what seems more official than a checkmark?
01:09:49.000 So I was like, here's my number.
01:09:50.000 Call me.
01:09:51.000 Would love to chat.
01:09:52.000 So you just thought you were going to have a conversation with someone.
01:09:55.000 I had no idea.
01:09:55.000 That made me want to partner with me, because I'm like, oh, this girl's been harassed on the internet.
01:09:58.000 Maybe she'll want to help kids. 0.97
01:10:00.000 Right.
01:10:02.000 Alice in Wonderland like it totally like insane Alice in Wonderland and then like all of a sudden there's like a cat who's like smoking so you think that someone orchestrated this attack 100% fake Trump supporters that were going after you wasn't real yeah that was my like I was like oh how convenient we've been on Kickstarter for three days no one has harassed us you call me and tell me kill the project or I'm gonna get harassed I hang up the phone with you and now or later we're getting inundated with harassment And she was saying that you were going to get harassed by Trump supporters.
01:10:30.000 Why did she say that?
01:10:31.000 She didn't say Trump supporters.
01:10:32.000 All of their addresses happened to be Trump 45, whatever it was. 0.78
01:10:37.000 They would actually have weird porn handles. 0.73
01:10:40.000 I don't know, weird handles.
01:10:41.000 I still have them.
01:10:42.000 I'd have to pull it up.
01:10:43.000 Why did she think that someone was going to harass you? 1.00
01:10:45.000 I'm still confused.
01:10:47.000 Because you're just saying you're going to unmask trolls.
01:10:49.000 Yeah, and that's what she said.
01:10:50.000 When the Gamergate people, these anonymous men who harass people, the people that harassed me, when they see what you're working on, they're going to freak out.
01:10:56.000 You can't do it.
01:10:57.000 They've ruined my life.
01:10:58.000 And then she started saying, you're going to get doxxed. 0.99
01:11:00.000 They're going to find out where your parent lives.
01:11:02.000 And literally after that, someone sent me a map, and they had doxxed my family.
01:11:06.000 My grandmother's, where she lives, my grandfather.
01:11:09.000 It was just like...
01:11:11.000 Exactly what she said, and instantaneously after you contacting her.
01:11:15.000 So you think that she did it.
01:11:16.000 I know she did it.
01:11:18.000 I've said this a thousand times.
01:11:19.000 And then the second I said it, all of a sudden the New York Magazine and the Washington Post tried to smear me.
01:11:23.000 Instantly.
01:11:24.000 Instantly.
01:11:24.000 And at that time, I thought...
01:11:26.000 Is it possible that you're wrong?
01:11:27.000 No.
01:11:27.000 It's not.
01:11:28.000 It's implausible.
01:11:29.000 With the time frame of getting nobody messaging me, right, to her calling me, all of this flooding in, and then the New York Magazine.
01:11:36.000 I was a girl on Kickstarter.
01:11:37.000 Why the hell is the Washington Post calling me after I tweet, this girl harassed herself? 0.76
01:11:42.000 The Washington Post, New York Magazine, the usual suspects, right?
01:11:46.000 Like now, the usual suspects.
01:11:48.000 At that time, I was like, oh, great, the Washington Post, you know? 1.00
01:11:50.000 I was like, totally an idiot. 0.99
01:11:53.000 You know, we're rushing to say like, oh, Candace got confused. 1.00
01:11:56.000 It's been a long time internet conspiracy that Zoe Quinn's harassed herself and Candace got sucked in.
01:12:00.000 I'm like, I don't even know what Gamergate is.
01:12:02.000 I don't even know what this article is about.
01:12:04.000 So you had no idea that there was accusations that she had harassed herself.
01:12:08.000 You just said, that girl had never been harassed.
01:12:11.000 One tweet.
01:12:12.000 One instinct.
01:12:13.000 One instinct.
01:12:13.000 And I got in the middle of a cultural war and people were like, get in touch with Nero.
01:12:18.000 I'm like, who the fuck It's Nero. 0.97
01:12:19.000 It was Milo Yenopoulos at the time. 0.99
01:12:21.000 Like, you know, like, you just, like, landed.
01:12:23.000 And then people that I thought were white nationalists, which was, like, Breitbart, was the only publication that was, like, just telling the truth about what's happening.
01:12:30.000 Like, just saying, like, this girl jumped on Kickstarter.
01:12:31.000 Like, she's no, like, no leg in this race. 0.99
01:12:34.000 She's not political.
01:12:35.000 And, like, this is what she says happened.
01:12:37.000 So it was just a bizarre, it was a very bizarre situation.
01:12:40.000 But it changed my life because the people that I would have thought in that moment would have, like, come after me Yeah, I think.
01:13:11.000 A weird thing, like my whole life just went...
01:13:14.000 Like I was like, okay.
01:13:15.000 So one interaction, that's all it took.
01:13:18.000 Yeah, and a subsequent firestorm.
01:13:20.000 Now, has there ever been any proof at all that she's done what you think she did?
01:13:24.000 Just a bunch of people saying the same thing that had nothing to do with one another in different situations and the media refusing to...
01:13:31.000 Well, it's like one of those blame the victim things.
01:13:33.000 Nobody wants to take a chance unless there's just overwhelming evidence.
01:13:37.000 And she never responds.
01:13:38.000 I've said it on a thousand things.
01:13:39.000 She never responds.
01:13:41.000 And I stick by that.
01:13:43.000 I'll never veer from that.
01:13:45.000 But I always say that was my moment.
01:13:47.000 This project that I had never even built out.
01:13:51.000 Changed everything.
01:13:52.000 I stopped the project and I subsequently just wanted to learn.
01:13:58.000 Is it possible that I got to 26 years old and have everything wrong about people that I thought...
01:14:03.000 I was just believing in the background that anybody that CNN said...
01:14:07.000 Why would this one interaction with one person that may or may not be deceptive, why would that make you switch political affiliation?
01:14:15.000 It wasn't even switching.
01:14:16.000 I wasn't politically active.
01:14:17.000 If you had asked me...
01:14:19.000 I would have said I wasn't.
01:14:20.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99
01:14:20.000 I was never a girl wearing a pussy hat outside. 0.99
01:14:23.000 That's the thing that people don't understand. 0.92
01:14:24.000 Would you?
01:14:25.000 No, God. 0.99
01:14:26.000 If pressed, if you think of where I'm at now and talking about how I hate labels, I was probably already a conservative, but I didn't give a shit about politics. 0.96
01:14:35.000 I had $100,000 in student loan debt, and I was just trying to pay it back. 0.93
01:14:39.000 That's it.
01:14:39.000 That was my whole life.
01:14:40.000 There was nothing about politics.
01:14:41.000 But at that moment, it was forced me to consider my political affiliations because I had me saying this I'm saying the New York Magazine tried to smear me.
01:14:51.000 The Washington Post tried to smear me at the exact same time.
01:14:53.000 Donald Trump is getting on a stage and he's saying they're fake news.
01:14:56.000 It was just this divine moment.
01:14:58.000 So how were they trying to smear you?
01:15:00.000 So they called me and pretended to be my friend.
01:15:02.000 I'm like, I just want to know what happened.
01:15:03.000 I told them the story.
01:15:04.000 I gave them messages of Zoe, the time stamps, the hate that I've been receiving.
01:15:09.000 And then the articles that they wrote were like, I'm like, Did I just have a conversation with you on the phone?
01:15:14.000 Insane stuff.
01:15:16.000 The Washington Post actually, because I caught them in a lie, I recorded the conversation and the email of what she wrote didn't match.
01:15:24.000 They pulled the article.
01:15:25.000 I said, if you run this article, I will sue you guys for libel.
01:15:28.000 And the manager pulled the article and he was like, you're not even relevant, you're not even important, we don't have to run this article.
01:15:33.000 I have it all in writing.
01:15:35.000 I still have it.
01:15:35.000 They were ready to lie.
01:15:36.000 What were they ready to lie about?
01:15:38.000 They were trying to make it seem that I had...
01:15:41.000 They were trying to figure out who was funding social autopsy.
01:15:45.000 That was what the journalists were trying to figure out for whatever reason.
01:15:48.000 Like, who's helping you?
01:15:49.000 So when I refused to say any memes, I just got that weird gut feeling on the phone.
01:15:53.000 I'm like, why are you...
01:15:53.000 Like, I'm telling you, like, this girl's been harassing herself.
01:15:55.000 Why are you trying to figure out, like, where I'm getting money from, you know?
01:15:59.000 And when I refused to answer, the girl was going to, like, lied and tried to say that I had said certain names, that she was just trying to get, like, other anti-bullying, like, organizations to come out and say I was a liar.
01:16:12.000 Like, say I was working with them.
01:16:13.000 But I had never said any namester on the phone.
01:16:16.000 And somebody gave me a tip.
01:16:18.000 Like, one of the anti...
01:16:18.000 I'm not going to say the name of...
01:16:19.000 They gave me a tip and said that...
01:16:21.000 You know, they called and, you know, did you tell them this?
01:16:24.000 And I was like, no.
01:16:25.000 I was like, I literally had the recording.
01:16:26.000 And they were like, you need to lawyer up.
01:16:28.000 Like, the Washington Post is trying to smear you.
01:16:30.000 But what was it that they said that you hadn't said?
01:16:35.000 They were basically going to try to get a really reputable anti-bullying company to issue a strong statement against me calling me a liar.
01:16:43.000 But this company, because I had been in touch with them, because I had been on the phone with them, had a sense that they didn't feel good about the reporter either.
01:16:51.000 So they gave me a heads up.
01:16:52.000 I had actually recorded the conversation with the Washington Post.
01:16:55.000 And what was in the conversation that they didn't want to approach?
01:16:58.000 They were going to print that, like, I said that this company, you know, was supporting me and they reached out to that company and that company denied it.
01:17:06.000 But I had never said that.
01:17:07.000 It was just a way to say that I was a liar, but I never said it.
01:17:10.000 Do you get what I'm saying?
01:17:11.000 I recorded the conversation.
01:17:13.000 My instinct was just, like, record the conversation.
01:17:15.000 Hashtag fake news.
01:17:16.000 Yeah.
01:17:16.000 So imagine, like, you go through that and then Donald Trump gets on a stage and he's like, The Washington Post is fake news.
01:17:21.000 Jeff Bezos is fake news.
01:17:22.000 It was just like this...
01:17:23.000 Do you still order things from Amazon?
01:17:26.000 I do too.
01:17:27.000 I'm freaking so annoyed.
01:17:28.000 It's awful.
01:17:29.000 Love that one click.
01:17:30.000 I know.
01:17:30.000 It's just amazing.
01:17:32.000 I know.
01:17:32.000 I shouldn't.
01:17:33.000 I shouldn't.
01:17:34.000 What do you need?
01:17:35.000 Crazy glue? 0.64
01:17:35.000 Bam! 0.64
01:17:36.000 Bam! 0.98
01:17:36.000 I hear there's another company coming out. 0.98
01:17:38.000 What do you need?
01:17:38.000 A lacrosse ball?
01:17:39.000 Bam! 0.98
01:17:40.000 One click.
01:17:40.000 He's got us all.
01:17:41.000 I know.
01:17:42.000 I can't. 1.00
01:17:42.000 I buy a lot of shit off Amazon. 1.00
01:17:44.000 I know. 1.00
01:17:44.000 I know. 1.00
01:17:44.000 I do too. 1.00
01:17:45.000 I can't even deny it.
01:17:45.000 It's so convenient.
01:17:46.000 I know.
01:17:47.000 It shows.
01:17:47.000 It's there.
01:17:48.000 When you get home, it's there.
01:17:49.000 It's home too.
01:17:50.000 Do you think he has anything to do with the Washington Post or did you just buy it?
01:17:55.000 It's his personal diary now.
01:17:57.000 You think so?
01:17:58.000 Of course.
01:17:58.000 Have you seen the stuff that they're publishing now?
01:18:01.000 It's a joke.
01:18:01.000 I subscribe to it online, meaning I pay to get it online.
01:18:05.000 You pay for propaganda.
01:18:07.000 Well, occasionally you have a good story.
01:18:08.000 Yeah.
01:18:08.000 I don't know if all of it's propaganda.
01:18:11.000 I can't take any of the articles seriously.
01:18:13.000 The stuff that they've run and that they've said, it's just like...
01:18:15.000 Like what else?
01:18:15.000 It's just everything.
01:18:17.000 Everything?
01:18:18.000 The stuff that...
01:18:18.000 Have you read the Washington Post lately?
01:18:20.000 What was the last good article?
01:18:22.000 Let me ask you, what was the last that you thought this was a fair and balanced reporting job by Washington Post?
01:18:27.000 They don't hate Trump.
01:18:27.000 They just went to report the news.
01:18:29.000 That's a very difficult question because I read too many articles.
01:18:31.000 I'd have to go back and see which one...
01:18:33.000 What's the number one article on the top of the app today, right now?
01:18:37.000 That would be an interesting question.
01:18:38.000 What do you think?
01:18:39.000 Let's guess.
01:18:39.000 Let's just take a guess.
01:18:40.000 Trump.
01:18:41.000 I'm going to go ahead and put that out there.
01:18:42.000 Okay.
01:18:42.000 I bet it's Roseanne.
01:18:43.000 No, it can't be Roseanne.
01:18:44.000 She's not number one.
01:18:45.000 Well, it could be Roseanne because it correlates to Trump.
01:18:48.000 Maybe it's, what's her face?
01:18:49.000 B. No, they're not.
01:18:50.000 They're going to bury that story.
01:18:51.000 They're going to bury Samantha Bee?
01:18:53.000 Okay.
01:18:53.000 Lin-Manuel Miranda's seat of power.
01:18:55.000 Trump's medal tariffs trigger retaliation for Mexico.
01:18:59.000 I win.
01:19:00.000 Trade war.
01:19:01.000 Yeah.
01:19:01.000 But look at that.
01:19:02.000 Samantha Bee apologizes after White House condemnation for calling Ivanka Trump a vulgar word.
01:19:07.000 I win too.
01:19:08.000 No, no, no, no.
01:19:09.000 It's a picture with mine.
01:19:10.000 But they're forgiving her.
01:19:11.000 Are they?
01:19:11.000 They're forgiving her in that.
01:19:12.000 Just think of the headlines.
01:19:13.000 She apologizes.
01:19:14.000 Yeah, she apologizes.
01:19:15.000 And she looks nice in that picture.
01:19:16.000 Are they forgiving her?
01:19:17.000 Yeah, they're going to forgive her.
01:19:18.000 She apologizes after condemnation for calling Ivanka Trump a vulgar word. 1.00
01:19:22.000 Why don't they just write cunt? 0.99
01:19:24.000 How come they can't write that? 0.99
01:19:26.000 Apologizes for airing the word.
01:19:28.000 Oh, they did it on TV? Wait a minute.
01:19:30.000 Wait a minute.
01:19:31.000 It was on our TV show. 1.00
01:19:32.000 Cut the fucking shit. 1.00
01:19:34.000 That's what I was telling you before. 1.00
01:19:34.000 Yeah, it was on TV. It's insane. 1.00
01:19:37.000 What?
01:19:37.000 Yeah.
01:19:38.000 TBS had to apologize too. 1.00
01:19:40.000 TBS said cunt? 0.99
01:19:41.000 No, it was on her shows on TBS. But does it say cunt? 1.00
01:19:44.000 Like the word? 0.99
01:19:45.000 I think they just apologized for it.
01:19:47.000 No, no, no.
01:19:47.000 I'm saying, did they air the actual word or did they beep it?
01:19:50.000 Oh, I don't know.
01:19:51.000 That's a good question. 1.00
01:19:52.000 Because you remember when Stephen Colbert, when he said that Putin uses Trump's mouth for his cock holster? 1.00
01:20:01.000 That shit's crazy. 1.00
01:20:03.000 I know. 1.00
01:20:03.000 That's what I'm saying. 1.00
01:20:04.000 Imagine if he said that about Obama.
01:20:06.000 They would lose their minds.
01:20:08.000 Just imagine.
01:20:09.000 Imagine if someone said that. 0.99
01:20:10.000 And the people that get it the worst are black conservatives. 1.00
01:20:12.000 We get the things that people say to us. 0.97
01:20:14.000 And what's bizarre now is white liberals.
01:20:17.000 They just feel comfortable.
01:20:18.000 I'm like, what?
01:20:19.000 This is so weird.
01:20:20.000 They'll write and they'll say anything to me.
01:20:22.000 Here goes.
01:20:23.000 TBS Network.
01:20:24.000 Samantha Bee is taking the right action and apologizing.
01:20:27.000 What?
01:20:28.000 For the vile and inappropriate language she used about Ivanka Trump last night. 1.00
01:20:32.000 Those words should not have been aired.
01:20:33.000 It was our mistake too and we regret it.
01:20:35.000 What is this?
01:20:36.000 I do not like the way they worded that.
01:20:39.000 Right.
01:20:39.000 She's taken the right action.
01:20:41.000 So they have a positive action attributed to her before they condemn her negative words.
01:20:48.000 When you read how they're going to interpret it, it's always going to be positive.
01:20:52.000 But she's not going to get fired.
01:20:54.000 That's oddly positive.
01:20:55.000 They're not going to fire her.
01:20:56.000 No, because there's a double standard.
01:20:58.000 There's a double standard.
01:20:59.000 Well, they fired Roseanne when she had the number one show in the country. 1.00
01:21:02.000 They just threw away a lot of money with that one.
01:21:05.000 Yeah, and also, you know, and did a lot of jobs for people that disagreed with her. 0.99
01:21:10.000 I think she doesn't want to do it anymore.
01:21:12.000 Talking to Roseanne, Personally, I think she was so worn out from doing that show.
01:21:17.000 She's 66 years old, you know, and she's not in the best of health.
01:21:22.000 And she told me she got bronchitis doing the show and she almost died. 1.00
01:21:26.000 She's like, I'm too fucking old for this shit. 1.00
01:21:27.000 I can't do this anyway. 1.00
01:21:29.000 And they were wearing me out.
01:21:30.000 I just wish that there was just a little more humanity.
01:21:32.000 I really, fundamentally, strongly dislike something about the outrage culture and the willingness to forgo the fact that she's a human being. 0.93
01:21:45.000 There's something about people that they believe that human beings are perfectible.
01:21:51.000 Perfectable.
01:21:51.000 Yeah.
01:21:52.000 And I think that this is something the left has sold.
01:21:54.000 The idea that it's perfectable.
01:21:55.000 That you can defeat racism with the right person in office.
01:21:58.000 That you can defeat sexism.
01:22:00.000 That you can defeat misogyny.
01:22:01.000 And this is not possible.
01:22:04.000 You can't defeat these things.
01:22:05.000 Bad things happen because human beings are constantly learning.
01:22:07.000 We're flawed.
01:22:08.000 Right.
01:22:08.000 But don't you think that...
01:22:10.000 Ultimately, the direction that we're all moving in as human beings, if you looked at human beings from 3,000 years ago to human beings of today, we're moving in a general direction of a much more positive culture.
01:22:24.000 Right, but it doesn't feel like that.
01:22:25.000 It does to me.
01:22:27.000 To me it does, too.
01:22:28.000 Racism is negative, we both agree, right?
01:22:30.000 Right, 100%.
01:22:31.000 Racism is a terrible thing.
01:22:32.000 But it can't be depleted.
01:22:33.000 But don't you think it can be shunned out of society slowly but surely if people realize there's repercussions for racism?
01:22:38.000 No, repercussions, but then you're operating from a fear.
01:22:40.000 That doesn't mean that you're not racist because you're afraid to say it.
01:22:43.000 No, but people realize that it hurts people's feelings.
01:22:46.000 It causes all sorts of issues.
01:22:49.000 No, human beings, especially when they're in, and I've learned this all the time, when they're in a spot where they're fundamentally unhappy, it's very easy for them to lash out.
01:22:58.000 It is.
01:22:58.000 So if you find someone who's just miserable...
01:23:01.000 Right.
01:23:01.000 Who doesn't, you know, have, I don't know, the career, the girl, whatever it is, that person is much more likely to say something that's vitriolic.
01:23:10.000 And that's just, that's the human condition.
01:23:12.000 Like, you're not happy, so you lash out at someone else.
01:23:15.000 I agree with you.
01:23:15.000 But don't you think that human beings in general are less racist today, certainly less racist publicly in America, than 1950?
01:23:24.000 Oh my gosh, yes.
01:23:25.000 No questions asked.
01:23:27.000 So 68 years ago.
01:23:28.000 Yeah.
01:23:29.000 If we go back 68 years ago, the world has changed for the better.
01:23:33.000 100% in terms of the social progress that we've made, especially in America.
01:23:38.000 Do you think it's possible that 68 years from now, we could at least come very close to eradicating racism?
01:23:45.000 That's a very good question.
01:23:47.000 So if you're talking about just America?
01:23:50.000 Yes. 0.98
01:23:50.000 Well, let's just go with America, because let's just wrap it up, because I don't know what the fuck's going on in China or, you know, wherever. 0.98
01:23:58.000 There's some places where racism is just deep-seated, and they accept it culturally. 0.99
01:24:02.000 Yeah, it's deep-seated.
01:24:02.000 It's never going to go away.
01:24:03.000 So that's why I say, like, racism can't...
01:24:05.000 I don't know, never go away, but...
01:24:05.000 Because they change it up, because then they'll say Americans are racist towards Muslims, right?
01:24:08.000 When you say that you're going to do the Muslim ban from certain countries, and that's also considered, like, racism, and not just, like, you know...
01:24:17.000 National security, right?
01:24:19.000 So everything sort of becomes racism.
01:24:21.000 So the problem with racism is nobody knows what it means anymore.
01:24:24.000 Everything's racist.
01:24:26.000 The Starbucks situation, which to me was not racist, was racist.
01:24:29.000 Is that racism?
01:24:31.000 The Starbucks that wasn't racist?
01:24:34.000 You don't think that was racist?
01:24:35.000 No.
01:24:35.000 I don't think that was racist.
01:24:37.000 I live in Philly. 0.96
01:24:38.000 So you think if those were white dudes hanging out in Starbucks, not buying anything, just sitting down, mind their own business, that they would've got fucked with with the same exact energy? 0.98
01:24:48.000 Okay, so let's play a different picture. 0.97
01:24:49.000 So first off, I live in Philadelphia.
01:24:50.000 I'm not kidding.
01:24:51.000 Sometimes when I'm there, I'm like, I wonder if any white people live here. 0.78
01:24:54.000 Philadelphia is 44% black.
01:24:59.000 Excluding Hispanic, 44% black.
01:25:01.000 It's unbelievable.
01:25:02.000 Everyone who works in my building, everyone's black.
01:25:04.000 It's like the weirdest thing. 0.95
01:25:05.000 I'm like, this is a very black city, right? 0.96
01:25:06.000 It's a bizarre city to be racist, outright racist in. 0.99
01:25:09.000 Like you're dealing with black people all day. 1.00
01:25:11.000 So you remove that and then you think to me, and I've seen this happen tons of times, is it possible, right, that this guy was just on like a power, like power trips happen.
01:25:21.000 I've seen it happen at the most bizarre places.
01:25:23.000 And I'm like, all right, like the airport the other day, like this woman gave me absolute hell. 0.97
01:25:28.000 At TSA. I mean, it was like, I can't even recap.
01:25:30.000 It was just absolute hell.
01:25:32.000 I could have walked away and said she was racist and she randomly selected my bag 22 times to go through and made me go through and miss my flight, right? 1.00
01:25:38.000 Or she was having a bad day and she was power tripping, you know?
01:25:41.000 And then people have these little positions.
01:25:42.000 It's like that movie where they go, doorman, you know?
01:25:45.000 And they have these little positions like the manager of Starbucks and you're having an off day.
01:25:49.000 And these two kids, I could have easily said, I'll buy a cookie, right?
01:25:52.000 Like, common decency, by the way, even for me, if I go use a bathroom at Starbucks, I'll just freaking buy a cookie or a little, like, juice box or water.
01:25:59.000 Just something that makes me feel, all right, it's a little more civilized if I just buy something, even though I'm just here to use the bathroom.
01:26:05.000 Like, so, on both ends...
01:26:05.000 Or if you've got to pee real bad and there's a line.
01:26:07.000 You go and then I'll probably sprint to the bathroom and then buy something afterwards.
01:26:11.000 I do that.
01:26:12.000 It's a natural thing.
01:26:13.000 Well, now, because of these guys, you could just be a homeless person and take a shower in the toilet.
01:26:18.000 It's because of outrage culture. 1.00
01:26:19.000 It's an outrage culture. 0.99
01:26:20.000 It's insane.
01:26:21.000 My cousin, who's half Mexican and black, had to go through this training and she works for Starbucks. 0.96
01:26:24.000 It's like...
01:26:25.000 To me, it's just insane.
01:26:26.000 It's like, is it possible that this guy was power tripping, these kids were being like, you know, they could have just bought something and it could have been resolved.
01:26:33.000 But you have two people that are being stubborn and taking it to as far as possible, you know, talk about like hall monitor, like, you know, these are the rules, and it just got too far.
01:26:42.000 That could be a perspective.
01:26:43.000 That is possible, but it's also possible that they were racially selected.
01:26:48.000 Yeah.
01:26:48.000 That someone was racist.
01:26:49.000 They looked at them and they said, these guys are black. 0.99
01:26:52.000 They're probably up to no good. 0.98
01:26:53.000 We don't want them sitting around here and not buying anything.
01:26:56.000 How long were they sitting there again for?
01:26:57.000 Could you remind me?
01:26:58.000 I don't know.
01:26:58.000 Weren't they just waiting for their friend, too?
01:27:00.000 The whole thing didn't make any sense.
01:27:01.000 Yeah, but how long were they sitting there for?
01:27:03.000 I want to say 45 minutes, but that's like until the cops got there.
01:27:07.000 They probably weren't.
01:27:08.000 I mean, how long does it take to get the cops to come in Philly?
01:27:10.000 Yeah. 0.95
01:27:10.000 Right, so I'm just like, if you were sitting there, I don't know, I've never called the cops in Philly, but I do know that Philly is just a very black city. 0.95
01:27:19.000 Yeah, I go to Philly all the time. 0.96
01:27:20.000 It's a very black city.
01:27:21.000 I was there with Dave Rubin and... 0.59
01:27:24.000 Jordan Peterson?
01:27:26.000 Jordan Peterson, yeah.
01:27:27.000 I opened for them.
01:27:28.000 You opened for them?
01:27:30.000 You do stand-up?
01:27:30.000 What are you doing?
01:27:31.000 Yeah, I should do stand-up.
01:27:32.000 I'd be good at it.
01:27:33.000 You think?
01:27:34.000 I'm funny.
01:27:34.000 Come out tonight.
01:27:35.000 I'll get you up.
01:27:35.000 I'll do it.
01:27:36.000 Oh wait, no, I can't because I have a...
01:27:38.000 I'm going to Wyoming right after this.
01:27:39.000 Yeah?
01:27:40.000 Do you have any ideas of what you would talk about if you went on stage?
01:27:43.000 I don't know.
01:27:44.000 I would be really funny, though.
01:27:45.000 I'm, like, randomly really funny.
01:27:46.000 Randomly is not good enough.
01:27:47.000 I'm good at voices.
01:27:48.000 Not when people pay.
01:27:49.000 No, I would be really good.
01:27:50.000 Like, I do really good voices.
01:27:52.000 Like, really good.
01:27:53.000 Like, I'm funny. 0.99
01:27:54.000 I'm inclined to believe that most people think they would do really good at stand-up or gonna eat shit on stage. 0.99
01:27:58.000 It's hard, yeah, because they get nervous. 0.99
01:28:00.000 Yeah.
01:28:00.000 I could see that.
01:28:01.000 It could be just, like, I'm not funny anymore.
01:28:03.000 It seems like something it's not.
01:28:04.000 I probably would be, like, a drinker if I was on stage, I feel like.
01:28:07.000 I would be, like, that, like, stereotypical comedian that just gets completely sloshed and goes out on stage.
01:28:11.000 Just to try to loosen up the vibes.
01:28:14.000 Yeah, I think it's a really hard thing to try it to be funny in front of like a sold out room.
01:28:18.000 I think it's important to be objective.
01:28:20.000 And I think it's important to look at something for what it really is.
01:28:24.000 And I think it's highly possible that that Starbucks thing was racist.
01:28:28.000 I see.
01:28:29.000 I think it's highly possible that it wasn't.
01:28:30.000 I think it's just as.
01:28:31.000 Yeah, it's just as.
01:28:32.000 It's possible that it wasn't.
01:28:34.000 Here we are.
01:28:35.000 It's got to be racist.
01:28:37.000 It's like, yes, the chances...
01:28:38.000 I'm just telling you, there's a lot of black people that come in.
01:28:41.000 I work from the Starbucks.
01:28:42.000 I'm writing a book.
01:28:43.000 I work from Starbucks all over Philadelphia.
01:28:44.000 That's what I do.
01:28:46.000 I don't know if there's any white people in Philadelphia.
01:28:49.000 I'm constantly trying to find...
01:28:50.000 There definitely are.
01:28:50.000 I did a show there recently.
01:28:51.000 A lot of white people.
01:28:52.000 What area of town were you in?
01:28:53.000 I was in the Tower Theater.
01:28:55.000 That's where we were.
01:28:56.000 Yeah, it was a lot of black people.
01:28:58.000 But they probably commuted... 1.00
01:28:59.000 Oh, fuck yeah, they did. 0.99
01:29:00.000 That drive to Tower Theater is... 1.00
01:29:02.000 Yeah, it's all black people. 0.99
01:29:04.000 True or false. 0.99
01:29:05.000 Yeah, it's a bizarre place.
01:29:07.000 Thank you.
01:29:07.000 Yeah, it's rough.
01:29:08.000 It's really rough.
01:29:09.000 And that's what people don't understand.
01:29:10.000 I'm like, dude, it's a weird place to come to if you're racist. 0.91
01:29:13.000 It's really hard to be racist in Philadelphia because everyone's black. 1.00
01:29:17.000 It's like... 0.84
01:29:18.000 We went to the movies once, and we saw Planet of the Apes, actually, ironically, in a really black neighborhood. 0.75
01:29:24.000 I was there for the UFC, and it was me and, again, my friend Tommy from Connecticut.
01:29:30.000 And we were looking for somewhere to go, and we went to this super black neighborhood. 1.00
01:29:34.000 And it was a fucking blast. 0.99
01:29:37.000 It was hilarious. 0.99
01:29:38.000 Because I never go to all black movie theaters.
01:29:41.000 Oh my gosh. 1.00
01:29:41.000 They were yelling shit at the screen. 1.00
01:29:43.000 I mean, it became like... 1.00
01:29:45.000 There was the audience that was entertaining, and then there was the movie that entertained.
01:29:49.000 There was one scene in the movie where the Planet of the Apes got...
01:29:52.000 What was the guy's name?
01:29:53.000 Caesar?
01:29:54.000 Got mad. 1.00
01:29:55.000 He's like, oh, you fucked up now! 1.00
01:29:56.000 Always, always. 1.00
01:29:58.000 And everybody's like, ah!
01:29:59.000 It's so vocal.
01:30:00.000 And we were barbecued.
01:30:02.000 We were high out of our mind.
01:30:03.000 So the whole thing was like extra hilarious.
01:30:06.000 Black culture, this is the thing that's so funny because so much of what I do is inspired by this.
01:30:09.000 It's just like people, like this, I guess presentation of black people in the media, it actually gets me mad because To me, and I could be biased, I think black people are the most funny, we're so funny, so endearing.
01:30:21.000 When I'm around my cousins, there's not a better time that I can have when I'm around my family.
01:30:26.000 We're not easily offended.
01:30:27.000 We're constantly making fun of each other, making fun of other people.
01:30:30.000 So how do you think black people are portrayed?
01:30:33.000 Like, victims.
01:30:34.000 Like, everything upsets us.
01:30:35.000 Like, we're just, we feel so oppressed.
01:30:37.000 And I'm like, this is not, like, the black community that I grew up in in my family.
01:30:41.000 And it's also not the black community that's just, like, who we celebrate.
01:30:45.000 Like, I was watching, was it Chris Rock's stand-up, Bigger and Blacker?
01:30:48.000 I watched that, like, from 1994. Classic.
01:30:50.000 Classic.
01:30:51.000 It is like, the stuff that he said, he could never say today.
01:30:56.000 Because that is black culture. 1.00
01:30:58.000 He went there on every single race, every single culture, made fun of everybody. 0.86
01:31:02.000 And it was beautiful.
01:31:03.000 It was perfection.
01:31:04.000 It was a sold out Apollo theater.
01:31:06.000 He comes out and the first thing he says is like, oh, white people in the back today.
01:31:10.000 You know what I mean? 0.96
01:31:11.000 And everyone gets up and starts cheering and then he starts making fun of black people about things that we need to fix, right?
01:31:16.000 He's being funny, but he's also saying stuff that's real, talking about that baby mama culture and the difference between the white community and he starts talking about school shootings. 0.66
01:31:24.000 Maybe it was Columbine that had just happened and he starts talking about that.
01:31:28.000 And nobody was sensitive.
01:31:30.000 Nobody in the audience was going, the NRA! Well, that was a different time.
01:31:35.000 But I missed that time.
01:31:36.000 They hadn't been inundated with school shootings.
01:31:38.000 There's so many of them now that people are just twisted.
01:31:40.000 They don't know what to do.
01:31:41.000 Right.
01:31:42.000 I don't agree.
01:31:44.000 This is the problem when you blame the NRA. No one in the NRA has ever committed a school shooting.
01:31:49.000 I know.
01:31:49.000 It's insane.
01:31:50.000 That's a fact.
01:31:50.000 It's bizarre that people blame them.
01:31:52.000 But there's an argument that there should be tighter regulations on people with mental illness, people with...
01:31:58.000 But the slope is incredibly slippery for that.
01:32:00.000 It is slippery.
01:32:01.000 It's like it's something you can't define.
01:32:03.000 It's too slippery.
01:32:04.000 What, mental illness? 0.94
01:32:04.000 Yeah, it's too slippery. 0.94
01:32:06.000 So what does that mean?
01:32:06.000 Does that mean if you go to one therapy session...
01:32:09.000 It is so slippery, I don't like it.
01:32:12.000 It's a dangerous way to go down.
01:32:14.000 What do you think about having to be 21 to be able to buy a gun?
01:32:17.000 I'm against it because you shouldn't be able to go get your limbs blown off overseas if you can't come back and defend your home.
01:32:21.000 Totally against it.
01:32:22.000 Well, that's a good argument that you shouldn't be able to go to war if you're not 21 either.
01:32:26.000 Right.
01:32:27.000 You know, I think the frontal cortex isn't developed until you're 25 years old, so who knows when you can make real good rational decisions for yourself.
01:32:36.000 And the idea is that if you take a 17-year-old kid fresh out of high school and send him overseas and put a gun in his hand, like he doesn't really know exactly what he's doing in the first place.
01:32:44.000 Exactly.
01:32:44.000 You're not making informed choices.
01:32:46.000 You're just following the lead of the people that are in command.
01:32:49.000 You're hoping that they're telling you the right thing to do.
01:32:51.000 The thing that's so bizarre to me is that we're sitting here and we're talking about the age as if guns were just created.
01:32:57.000 Something's wrong.
01:32:58.000 But what's wrong?
01:33:00.000 What do you think is wrong?
01:33:01.000 It's not the guns.
01:33:01.000 I'm asking you.
01:33:02.000 What do you think is wrong?
01:33:03.000 Mental health.
01:33:03.000 Right.
01:33:04.000 So I agree with you, but I think it's the deterioration of culture altogether.
01:33:08.000 Yep.
01:33:08.000 They used to be taught the Bible in school.
01:33:10.000 People make fun of that now.
01:33:12.000 Now we've got this culture where you're making fun of kids.
01:33:16.000 We're so far away from religion.
01:33:17.000 That's weird to us.
01:33:19.000 Teaching religion, you've got a scarlet letter if you come in as a holy Christian kid in a normal public... 1.00
01:33:25.000 Public education thing you've got the family structure where it's like these kids are running the houses these days like I look on like Facebook and it's like supposed to be funny when like a four-year-old is acting like Cardi B. I'm like, okay Yes, it's funny cuz she's four but it's also like not funny cuz she's four right like how do you feel about little Tay?
01:33:42.000 Who's Lil Tay? 1.00
01:33:43.000 You don't know who Lil Tay is? 1.00
01:33:44.000 I love Cardi B. I don't know who Lil Tay is. 0.56
01:33:45.000 Who's Lil Tay? 1.00
01:33:46.000 Lil Tay is kind of out of the news now because they found that it's a hustle. 0.99
01:33:49.000 She's a nine-year-old Asian girl from, what, Vancouver?
01:33:53.000 Is that where it's from? 1.00
01:33:54.000 And she talks mad shit, throws money around, calls everybody bitches and haters and broke bitches. 1.00
01:33:58.000 That's my point. 1.00
01:33:59.000 This is considered funny.
01:34:01.000 It's entertaining.
01:34:02.000 And we're okay with that.
01:34:03.000 And so parents are pushing their kids to be more outrageous because there's a way that they can make it.
01:34:07.000 So to me, it's like...
01:34:08.000 Lil Tay spotted hanging out with Rick Rubin.
01:34:10.000 It's not over.
01:34:12.000 It's not over yet.
01:34:13.000 It's not over.
01:34:13.000 Rick Rubin.
01:34:15.000 Look, she's... 1.00
01:34:16.000 How old is she? 0.98
01:34:17.000 She's got double fingers. 1.00
01:34:18.000 Oh, those are hooks.
01:34:19.000 She's got the horns up and she's got a G-Wagon in front of her. 1.00
01:34:22.000 It's just like the Cash Me Outside girl. 0.94
01:34:24.000 Yep.
01:34:24.000 Right?
01:34:25.000 Yeah.
01:34:25.000 So we don't talk about any of that.
01:34:26.000 We don't talk about the fact that we no longer focus on family.
01:34:29.000 We no longer focus on religion.
01:34:31.000 It doesn't mean to be that everyone needs to be religious, but there's structure in religion, right?
01:34:35.000 There's structure in me when I grew up and my grandpa used to make us read the Bible around the table.
01:34:39.000 There was some structure to that and lessons and And then there's this mass, the Facebook, the snapping, the Instagram, the Twitter.
01:34:49.000 It's like, we've changed the world and expected children to say the same of it, and nobody talks about it.
01:34:55.000 So instead they say, it's the gun's fault.
01:34:57.000 We need stricter gun legislation.
01:34:59.000 But the entire world has shifted.
01:35:01.000 We're not talking about those changes.
01:35:03.000 The dynamic of the world that has shifted.
01:35:05.000 So I just hold a different position.
01:35:07.000 I think it starts with family.
01:35:09.000 It starts with structure.
01:35:10.000 I think we need religion back. 0.89
01:35:12.000 I think that needs to stop being such a dirty world.
01:35:14.000 It needs to stop being mocked roundly by the media.
01:35:17.000 It shouldn't be funny when Joy Behar says something about Jesus and the whole audience continues.
01:35:24.000 Giggles. 0.99
01:35:24.000 That's weird. 0.99
01:35:25.000 She says something about Mike Pence being mentally ill. 0.99
01:35:27.000 Yeah, because he talks to Jesus. 0.99
01:35:28.000 Think about how weird that is, right?
01:35:30.000 Like how weird that the stuff that we used to would be normal, like, you know, praying, talking to Jesus.
01:35:35.000 Like when I grew up, that was like my grandparents' generation. 0.97
01:35:38.000 That was everyone was religious.
01:35:40.000 And now we're so far away from that, right?
01:35:42.000 That seems like...
01:35:44.000 It's okay to mock, and we roundly mock it all the time.
01:35:47.000 So the structure in the home is, in my opinion, the most important thing that needs to change.
01:35:53.000 The fact that so many people are growing up without fathers in the home is something that needs to change.
01:35:57.000 Letting your kid have a Facebook account when they're seven.
01:36:00.000 It's just too much.
01:36:01.000 It's the information age, but what information are they downloading?
01:36:05.000 Well, I definitely think that people need structure.
01:36:07.000 I definitely think that people need family and community and all those good things.
01:36:10.000 But when it comes to religion, it's like, which one is right?
01:36:13.000 It's not about being right.
01:36:14.000 You think all of them?
01:36:15.000 It's not about being right.
01:36:15.000 It's not about being right.
01:36:17.000 What about Scientology?
01:36:18.000 Is that okay?
01:36:19.000 I'm going to be honest.
01:36:20.000 I know nothing about Scientology, so I know that people hate Scientology.
01:36:24.000 That's all I know about it.
01:36:25.000 Created by a science fiction writer.
01:36:27.000 And it's all nonsense.
01:36:29.000 That's all you need to know. 1.00
01:36:30.000 It's one of the dumbest religions of all time. 1.00
01:36:33.000 If you read what they stand for, what they're all about. 0.99
01:36:37.000 Leah Remini, who was in it for years.
01:36:38.000 Yeah, I didn't watch her series.
01:36:40.000 She'd been on my podcast and she explained her journey into it and what happened with it and when she started to question it.
01:36:47.000 There's a whole thing.
01:36:49.000 There's a... 0.99
01:36:50.000 What is the fucking HBO documentary? 0.99
01:36:52.000 It's also the book, the HBO on Scientology, the Lawrence Wright... 0.99
01:36:58.000 Going Clear?
01:36:59.000 Going Clear, yeah.
01:37:01.000 I read the book and I watched the documentary.
01:37:03.000 It's so crazy.
01:37:04.000 I know nothing about it besides Tom Cruise. 0.98
01:37:06.000 I'm going to be honest, I'm totally ignorant. 0.97
01:37:08.000 Yeah. 0.79
01:37:09.000 It's, you know, for some people, here's the thing.
01:37:12.000 For some people, it's structure and it's helpful.
01:37:15.000 Ideologies are helpful sometimes because they give you like a format to live your life by or scaffolding to keep your moral beliefs inside of these boundaries and it helps you get ahead and you have purpose and decision making.
01:37:30.000 But at the end of the day, it's a cult.
01:37:32.000 And there's a lot of them.
01:37:34.000 There's a lot of different ones.
01:37:35.000 So how do you decide?
01:37:36.000 It's not about deciding.
01:37:37.000 It's just that there's something that comes from, I think, just learning certain lessons.
01:37:41.000 It doesn't need to be...
01:37:41.000 I'm not saying that we all need to like...
01:37:43.000 So something from structure.
01:37:43.000 From structure.
01:37:44.000 Like the Bible used to be taught in school.
01:37:46.000 Objectively.
01:37:47.000 They would be taught by people that, you know, were not practicing Christians, right?
01:37:51.000 Used to be taught in school objectively because there's still lessons that are timeless in these Bible stories.
01:37:55.000 It's nothing to do with whether or not you don't need to then say, oh, and then we go to church and then we pray in school and all that stuff.
01:38:00.000 You can almost extract that and try to teach these lessons objectively.
01:38:04.000 But what kids are learning now is like how to be an anarchist.
01:38:07.000 Like, you know, Feminism 101, and you're actually fostering an angry culture by telling them at every turn if they should be outraged. 0.99
01:38:15.000 We are in outrage culture, and then you're surprised when somebody does something outrageous.
01:38:21.000 It's a little bizarre to me.
01:38:23.000 It's like everything should piss you off.
01:38:25.000 Everything should make you angry.
01:38:26.000 Everything should make you upset.
01:38:28.000 Everything is unjust.
01:38:29.000 Everything is oppressed.
01:38:30.000 And I don't know why this kid just showed up at school.
01:38:32.000 Why was he so angry?
01:38:34.000 It's like we're weird.
01:38:35.000 It's like we're weirdly fake.
01:38:37.000 And no one wants to have a conversation.
01:38:38.000 A shooting happens and everyone wants to talk about the NRA. And then David Hogg is back on the news.
01:38:43.000 Jordan Peterson has some interesting ideas about religion and the fundamental beliefs and the lessons that are learned from things like the Bible and how they apply to human life and our own belief systems without them,
01:39:00.000 without these sort of structures and belief systems, is one of the things that leads civilization astray and that it's done that before and things go awry.
01:39:08.000 Well, I actually had this debate with Charlie and I did a panel down in DC and we were talking about whether like, you know, the reintroduction of God and teaching him to school.
01:39:17.000 And I said, like, at some point, there seems to be the struggle.
01:39:20.000 I have this idea that like, human beings in a certain way, we're doomed to just keep repeating history.
01:39:25.000 I'm obsessed with Greek mythology.
01:39:26.000 I'm obsessed with Egyptian history, hieroglyphics, anything where they tell stories, especially Greek mythology, because the lessons are there and we just keep doing it, right?
01:39:36.000 Greed, lust, the things that human beings fall for, right?
01:39:40.000 So I had this idea when we were talking, because Charlie is an evangelical Christian.
01:39:44.000 I'm not, right?
01:39:46.000 This super smart guy is an evangelical Christian?
01:39:48.000 Yes.
01:39:49.000 So does he believe Jesus came back to life?
01:39:51.000 Yes.
01:39:52.000 Really?
01:39:52.000 Yes.
01:39:53.000 He's an evangelical Christian.
01:39:54.000 So he believes that someone died, and then three days later, they came back to life, and that they walked on water and healed the sick?
01:40:01.000 I haven't really gotten into it with him because I'm not the person that should ever be debating or talking about religion.
01:40:06.000 It's not my...
01:40:21.000 Wait a minute.
01:40:22.000 Do you think the media is responding to the government's suggestion?
01:40:27.000 Is that what you think?
01:40:28.000 The reason why people are going after religion is because the media is responding to some sort of orders from the government?
01:40:34.000 Not orders.
01:40:34.000 That's wrong.
01:40:35.000 Some directive?
01:40:37.000 No, no.
01:40:37.000 But, you know, Andrew Breitbart said that politics is downstream from culture, right?
01:40:42.000 And you can argue that they feed into each other, whatever it is, but there's definitely something between culture and politics that is linked, inextricably linked.
01:40:52.000 So, when, you know, When everyone's on the same page, so if the government wants to get bigger, which it has been doing, and wants people to look to them for answers, which it has been doing, you have to understand they have to sort of destroy everything else that they would potentially be looking to for answers.
01:41:10.000 Right?
01:41:10.000 So instead of when you're down and out and people would just go to church and pray, right, or believing in your family or the family structure, they need to know that no matter what, you think the government is the answer.
01:41:21.000 That is what a leftist, at the end of the day, the left believes the government can fix all of their problems.
01:41:27.000 And I find, especially when I speak to all these leftists, they...
01:41:30.000 Do not believe in religion.
01:41:32.000 There's just a thing.
01:41:33.000 It's a trend I've noticed.
01:41:33.000 I'm not religious.
01:41:34.000 I'm not saying that there's something wrong with it, but leftists tend to be really apart from religion.
01:41:41.000 So the argument could definitely be made that the destruction of believing in the Bible, of teaching the Bible, is because you want to make it so that every time you have a problem, because our soul, we still need to believe in something.
01:41:53.000 We're naturally beings that we need to believe that something can fix something.
01:41:55.000 I really believe that.
01:41:57.000 It's the reason why we go get our palms read.
01:41:59.000 There's something else.
01:42:00.000 Somebody has the answer.
01:42:02.000 And people are starting to believe it's government in America.
01:42:05.000 And it freaks me out.
01:42:06.000 I agree with you that people like structure.
01:42:09.000 And I agree with you that people without religion try to find that structure and those rules and other things. 1.00
01:42:15.000 But I don't believe that this is some calculated move by the government.
01:42:18.000 No, not calculated.
01:42:19.000 I think it's human nature.
01:42:21.000 But it could shift, yeah.
01:42:22.000 Well, it's...
01:42:23.000 We want a daddy. 0.97
01:42:25.000 We want someone to tell us what to do. 0.99
01:42:27.000 And if that daddy is the government, or if that daddy is aliens, whatever the fuck it is, people need something. 0.99
01:42:33.000 And I agree with you, because that's why I argued with Charlie, because then he said, you know, government, the government, and now we have to go back to religion. 0.99
01:42:37.000 And then I said, okay, but Charlie, but then we could actually recreate all the terrible stuff that happened with religion when religion became daddy. 0.76
01:42:42.000 So we might just be going government, religion, government, religion.
01:42:45.000 Religion.
01:42:45.000 Government.
01:42:46.000 You know what I mean?
01:42:46.000 Just like swinging the pendulum.
01:42:48.000 Well, there's just massive amounts of corruption in both.
01:42:49.000 Exactly.
01:42:49.000 There's massive amounts of corruption in religion.
01:42:50.000 And that's what I believe.
01:42:51.000 Yeah.
01:42:52.000 So I think that we could say that, yeah, we need to start re-inducing these things, but then we could just end up with the extreme again where there's massive corruption in the church.
01:42:59.000 Not everyone's placing off emphasis in the church.
01:43:01.000 So then I just said, wow, we're just doomed.
01:43:03.000 I don't think we're doomed.
01:43:04.000 Mark Twain had a great line, history doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes.
01:43:10.000 Interesting.
01:43:10.000 Go on.
01:43:11.000 That's a great quote. 1.00
01:43:13.000 Mark Twain was a bad motherfucker. 0.99
01:43:15.000 Duncan told me that yesterday. 1.00
01:43:16.000 Yeah.
01:43:16.000 Yeah.
01:43:17.000 It often rhymes.
01:43:18.000 That's the quote.
01:43:19.000 I think it repeats itself fully.
01:43:20.000 It may.
01:43:21.000 Like all of the signs there.
01:43:22.000 I'm like, we could literally just read this all in a Bible.
01:43:24.000 We could read this all in Greek mythology.
01:43:26.000 And we know what happens.
01:43:27.000 It's like...
01:43:29.000 It's our humanity.
01:43:30.000 But is it fixable?
01:43:31.000 No.
01:43:32.000 That's why people think, is society perfectible?
01:43:33.000 Of course it's not perfectible.
01:43:35.000 There's going to be greed.
01:43:35.000 There's going to be lust.
01:43:36.000 But now we're in this culture where it's like, he cheated on his wife.
01:43:40.000 But humans are different than we used to be.
01:43:43.000 And if we keep moving in this direction, we're going to improve.
01:43:45.000 We're going to continue to improve.
01:43:47.000 We'll find a new set of problems.
01:43:49.000 That's what I think.
01:43:51.000 Queen's cynical.
01:43:51.000 It's not cynical.
01:43:52.000 A little bit.
01:43:53.000 But there's just always...
01:43:55.000 During your lifetime, perhaps.
01:43:56.000 But the idea is that we're moving to a greater good.
01:43:58.000 We're moving towards a greater good that someday our children will enjoy.
01:44:01.000 And that we are in a better situation than our grandparents were.
01:44:04.000 Our grandchildren will be in a better situation than us.
01:44:07.000 And we're constantly moving towards improvement. 0.97
01:44:09.000 And this is the reason why we're so dissatisfied with racism and sexism and homophobia and hate and all the bullshit that we see in the world that can be prevented.
01:44:17.000 We think that if we can shun that and shame that and push it out of our culture that someday in the future we'll have gotten past this and evolved to the point where we as a culture and we as a civilization will be something that we are proud of. 0.95
01:44:33.000 And we're not proud of what we are now with school shootings.
01:44:36.000 Right.
01:44:37.000 People depended on Oxycontins and seven-year-olds on Facebook and Lil Tay flashing cash in front of a G-Wagon. 0.99
01:44:43.000 There's a lot of shit that's wrong. 0.99
01:44:45.000 Over-medicating children. 1.00
01:44:45.000 That's another thing. 1.00
01:44:46.000 No one wants to talk about over-medicating children.
01:44:47.000 When I was a kid, a six-year-old was bouncing off the walls.
01:44:49.000 We just said you were hyper.
01:44:50.000 Today, it's like, give him Adderall.
01:44:52.000 Yeah, no, it's not good.
01:44:53.000 It's not good.
01:44:54.000 I literally, like, I used to babysit a kid and, like, the mom would give them Adderall.
01:44:56.000 He was six years old.
01:44:57.000 She's like, I don't know what's wrong with him.
01:44:59.000 I'm like, he might be a kid, you know?
01:45:01.000 And that's another conversation.
01:45:02.000 He's got energy.
01:45:03.000 They just don't want to...
01:45:04.000 Look, I have kids. 0.98
01:45:05.000 When kids are going crazy and you're tired, it's fucking hard. 0.98
01:45:08.000 Yeah, but you don't medicate them. 0.99
01:45:09.000 And it's bizarre.
01:45:10.000 And then they say, oh, well, you know, if something's wrong with him, he's in school and he's not, you know, performing as well, he's not paying attention.
01:45:16.000 Maybe he's just not interested.
01:45:17.000 Yeah.
01:45:18.000 Maybe he'd rather be outside.
01:45:19.000 Well, I remember that very well. 1.00
01:45:20.000 And I remember thinking when I was in school, I am never going to tell my kids that they have to pay attention to some fucking boring shit. 1.00
01:45:29.000 Right. 0.99
01:45:29.000 Or assume that something's wrong with them. 0.99
01:45:31.000 Maybe you want them to pay attention, but assume that there's something wrong with them if they don't is what's crazy to me.
01:45:35.000 They assume there's something wrong with their child and that they need medicine because they're not paying attention to math problems on the board for an hour.
01:45:42.000 That's what's scary to me.
01:45:43.000 It's like parents are just out of touch.
01:45:45.000 Just making kids sit down.
01:45:45.000 The whole thing is unnatural.
01:45:47.000 Right.
01:45:47.000 School is unnatural.
01:45:48.000 I totally agree with you.
01:45:50.000 I am so anti.
01:45:52.000 And you see that.
01:45:52.000 There's this famous Kanye quote where he says, when you see a five-year-old, they have so much energy, but they have so much confidence and so much passion in everything that they do.
01:46:01.000 They think they can be anything.
01:46:03.000 They can be a dancer or a singer.
01:46:04.000 They'll try to do flips. 0.99
01:46:05.000 And then go find, like, an 11-year-old after they've been socialized in school.
01:46:09.000 They're like, that spark just dies in them.
01:46:12.000 And it's because they're literally being put through a system that tells them that they can't.
01:46:15.000 Well, this girl got a 90 on her test and you got an 80, so something must be, you know, you're not getting this, right?
01:46:20.000 Well, maybe math is just not her thing.
01:46:22.000 Maybe she's not as good at math as somebody else.
01:46:25.000 I think everybody has their own pieces of brilliant and that the current education system does not foster to individualism.
01:46:32.000 They're actually trying to create a collectivist society by being able to measure a kid's brilliance by standardized testing, something Charlie and I very much disagree on.
01:46:41.000 Yeah, I don't think they're necessarily doing that, but what they are is uninspired and underpaid and they're boring. 0.99
01:46:46.000 And kids go to their classes and they're bored out of their fucking mind. 1.00
01:46:49.000 They have to get this stupid grade so they can keep going. 1.00
01:46:51.000 Me? 1.00
01:46:51.000 Me? 1.00
01:46:51.000 Yeah, I was so bored. 1.00
01:46:53.000 Of course.
01:46:54.000 Those personality types.
01:46:55.000 Well, you got a lot of energy. 1.00
01:46:57.000 Yeah, and I always felt like they were stupid. 1.00
01:47:00.000 I'm like, is this teacher even smarter than me? 1.00
01:47:03.000 Can we take a test? 1.00
01:47:04.000 A quick IQ test to see if I should even have to take a class from someone who's actually dumber than me? 0.97
01:47:09.000 I remember having those thoughts in high school, just being like, these teachers aren't even smart sometimes. 0.92
01:47:13.000 You're not alone.
01:47:14.000 The good news is that from that you get this dissatisfaction, this feeling of just not wanting to be a part of this anymore.
01:47:23.000 And then you start seeking other ways to make a living.
01:47:26.000 I got on YouTube and I started talking about stuff and people responded to it.
01:47:31.000 So how did you go full-blown conservative?
01:47:34.000 You've been to the White House.
01:47:36.000 Yes, I have. 0.99
01:47:36.000 How the fuck have you been in the White House? 0.99
01:47:38.000 You were a conservative for two years. 0.99
01:47:39.000 I know. 1.00
01:47:39.000 Two years ago, you're talking shit online. 1.00
01:47:42.000 I know. 1.00
01:47:42.000 Well, I'm telling you, it's because you're like a conservative wet dream. 1.00
01:47:46.000 I know.
01:47:47.000 It fosters a little bit of jealousy, but I'm like, I'm like, dude, this is, but this is like, I believe in this so much that I wish we could stop that because like, I'm like, no, let's change the paradigm.
01:47:57.000 Like, let's get Trump to do the, like the Joe Rogan show as opposed to, you know what I mean?
01:48:01.000 Like there's, but people don't see things that way.
01:48:03.000 It's all about me, me, me.
01:48:04.000 The ego comes out, you know?
01:48:05.000 So, but anyways, so I met Charlie.
01:48:07.000 That was a huge thing that happened.
01:48:09.000 I was speaking at the David Horowitz Freedom Center.
01:48:12.000 Look, Charlie's 24. You could ask why he's flying around with the first family, too.
01:48:15.000 But when you meet him, you understand.
01:48:16.000 He's just absolutely brilliant.
01:48:18.000 And we just wanted to do this together.
01:48:21.000 I met him and I said, look, I think that there needs to be a black revolution against the Democratic Party.
01:48:25.000 I think I'm the person to lead it.
01:48:26.000 Like, I'm your girl.
01:48:27.000 And I was speaking on a panel with Dave Rubin about why I left the left and what I understood about the left, and he hired me on the spot.
01:48:36.000 And the rest is sort of history, you know?
01:48:38.000 I mean, that's really it.
01:48:39.000 I work my ass off.
01:48:41.000 So who hired you?
01:48:43.000 Charlie Kirk.
01:48:43.000 He actually runs Turning Point USA. I know he's like so young.
01:48:46.000 It's insane.
01:48:47.000 And you should look him up and figure out who he is because he's, in my opinion, he's going to be a future president of the United States.
01:48:53.000 And everyone says that.
01:48:54.000 Everyone, every show he's been on in Fox says like, very rarely do you meet, like Rush Limbaugh just said, very rarely do you meet someone and think that's going to be a president of the United States.
01:49:01.000 Charlie Kirk will be a president of the United States. 1.00
01:49:02.000 Yeah, but Rush is probably on like 18 different kinds of pills when he said that shit. 1.00
01:49:06.000 I know, I know. 1.00
01:49:06.000 He said it so many times. 1.00
01:49:08.000 Yeah.
01:49:08.000 Chewing them down.
01:49:09.000 Yeah.
01:49:11.000 Is he clean now?
01:49:12.000 How's Rush doing?
01:49:13.000 Is he clean now?
01:49:14.000 I didn't even know that he was not clean.
01:49:16.000 He took 100 pills a day.
01:49:17.000 That's scary to me.
01:49:18.000 Oh, he went deaf. 1.00
01:49:20.000 He went deaf from taking pills.
01:49:21.000 That's insane.
01:49:21.000 Do you understand this?
01:49:22.000 I won't even take Tylenol.
01:49:26.000 You know who told me that, by the way?
01:49:29.000 Fair warning.
01:49:30.000 Alex Jones.
01:49:31.000 He explained to me the mechanism of Rush Limbaugh going deaf from taking pills.
01:49:35.000 So Rush, if I'm wrong, I'm sorry.
01:49:37.000 Right.
01:49:38.000 Yeah, I have no idea.
01:49:39.000 But I'll be right.
01:49:39.000 Keep playing if it's true.
01:49:40.000 It's true?
01:49:42.000 It's on his Wikipedia.
01:49:43.000 Oh, that he went deaf from taking pills? 0.88
01:49:44.000 Yeah, that he had gone almost completely deaf.
01:49:46.000 Wikipedia never lies.
01:49:46.000 Look up mine.
01:49:47.000 Exactly.
01:49:48.000 Me and Brian Callan are brothers and sisters or something.
01:49:53.000 But yeah, I've worked incredibly hard.
01:49:56.000 I feel like I haven't slept since last year.
01:49:58.000 I'm traveling every day.
01:49:59.000 You seem like a politician, but not 100%.
01:50:02.000 I'm not.
01:50:02.000 People ask me, they're like, Candace, what are you going to do?
01:50:06.000 I'm just a girl who talks about stuff that I believe in.
01:50:09.000 And people view me as a politician.
01:50:12.000 Does it say it's from the pills, though?
01:50:14.000 You pulled that article.
01:50:15.000 I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you, but you pulled that article on the screen.
01:50:18.000 Do you say it's from the pills?
01:50:19.000 What about me seems like a...
01:50:20.000 This is what I don't get.
01:50:21.000 You're a little bit polished.
01:50:23.000 You've got a little bit of a sort of a...
01:50:27.000 You've said these things before.
01:50:29.000 What?
01:50:29.000 A lot of the things you're saying.
01:50:31.000 You're very good at it.
01:50:32.000 You've got a well-oiled path.
01:50:36.000 It's a nice groove in your brain where you know how to say these things.
01:50:39.000 Then occasionally you pop out of it and you're just playing Candace.
01:50:42.000 But when you're like, I'm going to lead black America. 0.96
01:50:44.000 I'm going to go against the Democrats.
01:50:45.000 But I believe that.
01:50:45.000 I believe you believe it.
01:50:46.000 I believe you believe it.
01:50:47.000 That's the plan.
01:50:47.000 But I also believe you said it many, many times.
01:50:50.000 What I just said to you?
01:50:51.000 Yes.
01:50:52.000 Yeah, I told you.
01:50:52.000 I told this to Charlie Kirk in November.
01:50:53.000 I'm like, this is what I want to do.
01:50:54.000 This is my plan.
01:50:55.000 So I'm just a person that's going after my goal.
01:50:56.000 And then as I start accomplishing it, people are just like throwing shade and hate.
01:51:00.000 And I'm like, dude, like, now it's turned into like...
01:51:02.000 What has been the shade and the hate that you think is like unwarranted?
01:51:05.000 Like, okay, so first off, like, let's not pretend.
01:51:08.000 Like, we can talk about social justice, like, warriors on the left.
01:51:12.000 We have them on the right, too.
01:51:13.000 Let's not pretend we don't have the people that, like, They they can't like as soon as I got to a hundred thousand YouTube followers every youtuber suddenly was like who is this deep dive and then they came with the like she was she yeah she she she she created social stuff she because she wanted to dox my like the most bizarre I have youtubers are looking up like has she ever dated a black guy like at the most absurd I'm like what are you guys doing like can we just all like just peacefully coexist I call it game of conservatives have you ever dated a black guy yes of Of course I've dated black guys.
01:51:43.000 No, no, I'm not asking you.
01:51:44.000 I'm just saying, like, what would be the issue?
01:51:45.000 What would be the article?
01:51:46.000 I know.
01:51:46.000 I'm like, what is the article going to read?
01:51:47.000 What if you had the same boyfriend from high school and he happened to be white?
01:51:50.000 Would that be a problem?
01:51:51.000 It would be a big problem.
01:51:51.000 It would be an article, that's for sure.
01:51:53.000 Yeah.
01:51:53.000 100%.
01:51:53.000 But they just start, like, digging it.
01:51:55.000 And I'm just like, guys, I'm just working hard.
01:51:57.000 And if you want to know what my strategy is, I don't make videos about you guys.
01:52:00.000 I make videos about what I care about.
01:52:02.000 I have a brand.
01:52:02.000 I define my brand.
01:52:03.000 Your brand is just going after people and that's not a brand at all.
01:52:07.000 There is a weird thing on YouTube where they have these little communities of people and they attack each other in the communities.
01:52:12.000 Yes.
01:52:12.000 Have you ever seen the vegan hate videos where they go after each other?
01:52:16.000 But yeah, it was like Banana, what's it, Banana Girl or something?
01:52:19.000 Yeah, there's a few of them.
01:52:20.000 Or Freely or something?
01:52:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:52:21.000 I've heard about it, but I didn't see it.
01:52:23.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.98
01:52:24.000 I call YouTube like YouTube high. 0.99
01:52:26.000 And I was like the new girl who showed up.
01:52:28.000 Yeah, but they're like 40. Yeah, and I know, that's what's weird.
01:52:30.000 But I was like the new girl who showed up and was a cheerleader.
01:52:34.000 Oh, from another school.
01:52:34.000 Yeah, I kind of know the cheerleading team all of a sudden.
01:52:37.000 And you were like 16, you weren't even 14. Yeah, and they were like, no, no, no, no.
01:52:41.000 YouTubers hate me. 1.00
01:52:41.000 They hate me. 1.00
01:52:42.000 I was like, I don't want to be a YouTuber.
01:52:45.000 I just plugged my content on YouTube.
01:52:47.000 That's even worse.
01:52:47.000 And then now they really hate me.
01:52:49.000 Now they're getting mad.
01:52:50.000 That's bizarre.
01:52:51.000 That's just totally weird, but it's fine because I never run into them because there's no brand here.
01:52:56.000 But they don't go outside.
01:52:56.000 I really don't think they go outside, but there's no brand.
01:52:59.000 Some of them do.
01:52:59.000 But if they see you, they run right back inside and make another YouTube video.
01:53:04.000 It's bizarre.
01:53:05.000 So there's YouTube high, then you have what I call Game of Conservatives.
01:53:10.000 They're all like racing for the throne.
01:53:12.000 And I feel like I'm like, guys, there's like white walkers at the wall. 0.85
01:53:16.000 The left is trying to turn this into communist America.
01:53:18.000 Can we not compete for the egos?
01:53:21.000 So you think you're helping save America?
01:53:24.000 I genuinely believe that right now is the only time that we have to save this country.
01:53:28.000 I genuinely believe that.
01:53:29.000 I think if Donald Trump did not win the election, we would have lost America.
01:53:35.000 Lost it?
01:53:36.000 To who?
01:53:36.000 Like Hillary, the globalist initiative, just this like, they were like communists.
01:53:42.000 To me, I really believe that this is an opportunity to sort of like, we're like the last stand for Western civilization.
01:53:47.000 Look what's going on in Europe.
01:53:48.000 It's like insane.
01:53:49.000 And people don't understand that.
01:53:51.000 I'm like, what is going on in Europe right now is like, Europe's done.
01:53:54.000 Did you watch the PragerU video, like Europe has committed suicide or whatever it was called?
01:53:58.000 No, but I had Douglas Murray on the podcast.
01:53:59.000 He was trying to explain to me his book, The Strange Death of Europe.
01:54:03.000 Oh, I think he did a PragerU video on that, too.
01:54:06.000 Maybe.
01:54:06.000 Yeah, it's real.
01:54:08.000 They've lost Europe, and the last stand for resident civilization is America, and then you have people that are competing for egos. 0.58
01:54:14.000 I'm like, guys, no, there's white walkers at the point.
01:54:17.000 But I don't understand how you think that we...
01:54:20.000 We're almost losing America and there's a battle for America.
01:54:23.000 I really feel that.
01:54:24.000 Like just in every regard in terms of just the people that were running.
01:54:30.000 Like Hillary Clinton, like this woman was a globalist. 0.67
01:54:32.000 Like just think about who we were in bed with.
01:54:34.000 Like Saudi Arabia selling all of our uranium to Russia.
01:54:37.000 Like Trump came in and was like, no, like America.
01:54:40.000 People, we were, the gap, like we lost, we're losing the middle class.
01:54:43.000 The gap between the rich and the poor was like literally.
01:54:46.000 What do you think is causing that?
01:54:49.000 We're good to go.
01:55:04.000 Land between New York and LA, believe it or not.
01:55:07.000 This is what Trump understood.
01:55:08.000 We were losing that.
01:55:10.000 And Trump appealed to those people.
01:55:12.000 I'm still floored. 0.98
01:55:13.000 As I'm traveling the world and seeing different pieces of the country, I'm learning how ignorant I was.
01:55:19.000 And that's the best thing in the entire world.
01:55:21.000 Just, I fell victim to the idea that, like, it was progress.
01:55:24.000 It was progress.
01:55:25.000 It was progress.
01:55:26.000 We have to care about the environment.
01:55:27.000 It was progress.
01:55:28.000 And it's like, no, like, we've been losing.
01:55:30.000 America has been losing.
01:55:31.000 And Donald Trump understood that in a way that I didn't.
01:55:34.000 You don't think we have to care about the environment?
01:55:37.000 Not even a little bit?
01:55:39.000 Not even a little bit?
01:55:40.000 No.
01:55:40.000 Okay, let me clarify this.
01:55:42.000 I don't throw trash on the ground.
01:55:44.000 I'm not saying, like, we need to, like, you know, trash the environment.
01:55:48.000 But do I believe in climate change?
01:55:50.000 No.
01:55:51.000 You don't believe in climate change?
01:55:53.000 Well, I think the climate always changes, I guess is what I should say.
01:55:55.000 Do I believe that this is like, you know, an issue that is being, that is global warming, which they've changed conveniently, they got rid of the word, one scientist started disproving it, now they only say climate change?
01:56:06.000 No, I think that that was just a way to extract dollars from Americans.
01:56:09.000 I don't at all believe.
01:56:10.000 They had no actionable plan.
01:56:11.000 It was great for Trump to get out of that deal.
01:56:13.000 It was terrible.
01:56:13.000 Okay, but this is an incredibly complicated subject.
01:56:17.000 Right.
01:56:18.000 And you would have to talk to a bunch of different scientists and see how they gather data and see what they understand about CO2 levels and what's the danger of them and what can combat it and what could not.
01:56:29.000 Have you done all this?
01:56:30.000 No.
01:56:31.000 Flippant opinion based on the party line.
01:56:34.000 This wouldn't be the hill I died on.
01:56:36.000 I've read a ton about it, but I would not be able to come to you and say, this is my strong opinion, but here's the easiest way to say this.
01:56:44.000 The fact that there is a disparity in the science community about whether or not it's real is enough to...
01:56:48.000 It's very little.
01:56:49.000 Very little disparity.
01:56:50.000 Most scientists, the vast majority, agree that human beings are negatively affecting climate change.
01:57:00.000 The vast majority.
01:57:02.000 Yeah, I just don't think so.
01:57:04.000 So you think that the very few scientists that disagree with the consensus are the ones that are correct?
01:57:10.000 Well, I think if something is—it's either subjective or it's objective.
01:57:13.000 And there are objective truths, right?
01:57:15.000 But it's subjective if you're saying that there are some—and I don't think there's very little.
01:57:19.000 There are some that don't get paid to go on TV. There are some that are not Bill Nye, who are not funded scientists.
01:57:24.000 And that has been a whole— Well, Bill Nye's not a scientist.
01:57:27.000 I know.
01:57:28.000 He's not.
01:57:29.000 I broke my heart when I found out.
01:57:30.000 He's a science...
01:57:31.000 Mouthpiece.
01:57:32.000 ...propagandist?
01:57:33.000 Yeah, but that's the point.
01:57:34.000 He's a science...
01:57:35.000 No, that's not a good word.
01:57:36.000 I don't think Al Gore is a scientist.
01:57:38.000 He's not.
01:57:38.000 But Bill Nye is like a science influencer or a science entertainer.
01:57:43.000 Yeah.
01:57:43.000 But he doesn't have a background in actual science.
01:57:46.000 He's not a scientist.
01:57:47.000 He doesn't have a PhD.
01:57:48.000 He's got an undergraduate.
01:57:49.000 I learned about him in school.
01:57:50.000 Everything I did in science had to do with Bill Nye.
01:57:52.000 Well, he promotes science, and science is not bad.
01:57:55.000 But the real problem is with climate change is that...
01:57:59.000 For sure, there has been ups and downs throughout the history of this planet.
01:58:04.000 They're observable.
01:58:05.000 They follow them.
01:58:06.000 It was one of the subjects that I had earlier today with Dr. Robert Schock.
01:58:11.000 In 2014, the vast majority, 87% of scientists, said that human activity is driving global warming, yet only half the American public ascribe to that view.
01:58:21.000 Well, what website is this?
01:58:22.000 87% and this is...
01:58:24.000 Scientific American.
01:58:25.000 Yeah.
01:58:25.000 Yeah,.com though.
01:58:26.000 That means it's making money.
01:58:29.000 I don't trust that.
01:58:29.000 If it was a.org, I would probably take that, but this is just a random website.
01:58:33.000 Well, Scientific American is not necessarily a random website.
01:58:37.000 Yeah, I don't believe this at all, just so you know.
01:58:40.000 You don't believe it like at all?
01:58:42.000 I genuinely don't believe it.
01:58:44.000 I know you do, but I genuinely don't believe it.
01:58:46.000 I believe most of the time the consensus of scientists that are studying the data.
01:58:51.000 And so what they're doing is studying...
01:58:53.000 But do you remember all of the stories that came out about the scientists that said that when they tried to present their evidence to show they were basically just getting shut down at every corner?
01:59:00.000 You can pull that up too.
01:59:01.000 What do you mean?
01:59:02.000 I guess look up the opposite.
01:59:04.000 Instead of looking for what you're searching for, looking for what you're not looking for.
01:59:07.000 I didn't search for it.
01:59:09.000 That's what I found when I searched it.
01:59:10.000 Sorry.
01:59:12.000 But this is my question.
01:59:14.000 Why are you so sure?
01:59:15.000 This is an extremely complicated subject.
01:59:19.000 And it is.
01:59:20.000 I said I am not so sure that I would die on the hill for it.
01:59:25.000 My opinion right now is just that it was a means because forget the fact of whether you believe global warming is real.
01:59:31.000 Let's say it's 100% real.
01:59:32.000 Let's say we know for a fact it's real.
01:59:34.000 Well, let's be clear.
01:59:36.000 Global warming, climate change is definitely real.
01:59:39.000 It's happening.
01:59:40.000 But it's always happened.
01:59:42.000 Yes, it has always happened.
01:59:43.000 So what is the climate change?
01:59:45.000 Yes, the climate changes.
01:59:46.000 It was different weather yesterday than it was today.
01:59:48.000 The climate is forever changing.
01:59:49.000 That's the problem, is that people are making it seem like that's something weird.
01:59:53.000 No, no, no.
01:59:54.000 You're misrepresenting the issue.
01:59:56.000 The issue is people think that human beings are exacerbating climate change to the point where there's a tipping point.
02:00:02.000 We cross over that tipping point.
02:00:04.000 We're going to deal with huge problems that could be corrected if we act now and put a lot of funding into climate control.
02:00:11.000 Okay.
02:00:11.000 And this is what Howard Bloom was on talking about a few days ago.
02:00:15.000 He was talking about that the real future involves the technology of climate control and that what we have to be really careful of is letting it get too far where you can't ever stop it and pull it back.
02:00:27.000 This is what scientists are warning about.
02:00:28.000 This is why they want emission standards.
02:00:31.000 This is why they want to figure out how to get people to be aware of the fact that this is a real issue.
02:00:37.000 Okay.
02:00:39.000 Human beings, if they never existed, the Earth has constantly gone through cycles.
02:00:46.000 The question is not whether or not the Earth has gone through cycles of cooling and warming.
02:00:51.000 The question is, are we exacerbating that?
02:00:53.000 The vast majority of scientists say we are.
02:00:56.000 Now this could negatively impact all sorts of coastal cities.
02:01:01.000 This could be a gigantic problem.
02:01:03.000 This is not like propaganda that's drummed up by some sort of big business that seeks to make money off of this or some sort of organization.
02:01:11.000 Well, they were making money off of it.
02:01:13.000 Al Gore might have made some money off of it, but who's making money off of it?
02:01:15.000 No, but the agreement that we were in, that was like the amount of money that America was losing, but here's what I was going to ask you.
02:01:21.000 Wait a minute, the amount of money America was losing?
02:01:24.000 Who was America?
02:01:25.000 In the Paris Agreement.
02:01:26.000 This is the reason why we wanted to get out of the Paris Agreement.
02:01:29.000 But that's where I wanted to get to.
02:01:30.000 So let's say we all agree that global warming is real.
02:01:33.000 I don't believe it's real, okay?
02:01:35.000 So I can't sit here.
02:01:36.000 But why have a belief?
02:01:39.000 What do you mean?
02:01:39.000 Why have a belief as to whether or not global warming is real or not real?
02:01:43.000 If you don't have a background in it, you don't understand the science, but why have a belief in it?
02:01:49.000 It's not a belief in it.
02:01:50.000 I don't believe in it.
02:01:51.000 No, it's not a belief.
02:01:52.000 But you have a belief that it doesn't exist.
02:01:54.000 Right.
02:01:55.000 No, I personally think that this was just the next—the fact that it was presented to us by Al Gore, and it's just— It's not presented to us just by Al Gore.
02:02:04.000 Al Gore made a film, and he's been called the first green billionaire.
02:02:08.000 He's made a shitload of money off of that.
02:02:09.000 And he flies in his private plane because he's so worried about the emissions.
02:02:12.000 That is hilarious.
02:02:13.000 There's something hilarious about that. 1.00
02:02:15.000 All of the people that are telling us— I'm a fucking politician. 0.99
02:02:18.000 There's grossness to all that stuff. 1.00
02:02:19.000 Right.
02:02:20.000 And that's what worries me.
02:02:21.000 So my question is, let's say that it's real.
02:02:25.000 Let's just assume.
02:02:26.000 That's the best way to have it to be.
02:02:28.000 Let's say it's 100% real.
02:02:30.000 Do you feel that you have found in your research that there is something that human beings can do that would change this all around?
02:02:37.000 It's possible, yes.
02:02:39.000 One of the things that they're figuring out how to pull carbon out of the atmosphere and even possibly reuse it.
02:02:44.000 There's all sorts of things that people are trying to do.
02:02:46.000 I mean, we had...
02:02:47.000 What was the young man who made that device?
02:02:50.000 Boy on slot.
02:02:51.000 Boy on slot.
02:02:52.000 He figured out a way to make this device that pulls plastic out of the oceans.
02:02:57.000 They're figuring out a way to...
02:02:59.000 That's important.
02:02:59.000 Yeah, there's a lot of...
02:03:00.000 Yeah, well, because plastic just can't, like, over time.
02:03:02.000 But that's what I mean.
02:03:03.000 Like, so when I say that I'm, like, I believe in recycling.
02:03:06.000 Like, I'm not, like, a person that's, like, this is...
02:03:08.000 But the idea that the government is just going to take trillions of dollars because we're in some agreement where we're all agreeing that we should do something is useless.
02:03:15.000 And look, from the stuff, like, there's obviously a lot of debate here.
02:03:19.000 And as I said, like, I'm not so...
02:03:20.000 The one thing you'll always find with me is I'll never pretend to be so educated on something.
02:03:24.000 Like, I'm not going on a college campus just talking about global warming.
02:03:27.000 I don't do that.
02:03:27.000 Right, but why are you saying that you don't think it exists, though?
02:03:30.000 I don't know.
02:03:31.000 Maybe because it got so politicized?
02:03:35.000 Studies into scientific agreement on human-caused global warming.
02:03:40.000 And look at all the studies.
02:03:41.000 It's between 100% and 91% at the lowest.
02:03:46.000 91% of one of the studies from 2014. This is the unionofconcernscientists.org.
02:03:54.000 It's a pretty broad consensus.
02:03:57.000 Who are they polling?
02:04:00.000 The people that are a part of this.org?
02:04:04.000 That's what I'm asking.
02:04:06.000 10,300.
02:04:07.000 306 scientists to confirm over 97% of climate scientists agree and over 97% of the scientific articles find that global warming is real and largely caused by humans.
02:04:19.000 So my question to you is if you want to step outside of the scientific consensus, which is vast and involves 10,306 scientists, and just say, I don't believe in it, even if you're right, Even if you're right, you don't have enough information to say that.
02:04:35.000 You might be correct.
02:04:37.000 But you're saying you don't believe it.
02:04:39.000 Yeah, I would have to have someone sit down and convince me that it was real.
02:04:43.000 I personally don't believe it.
02:04:44.000 That's okay.
02:04:45.000 It's good to start at a place of not believing something.
02:04:48.000 No, it's not.
02:04:49.000 You think you should start with believing everything.
02:04:50.000 No, it's not believe either or.
02:04:52.000 Not believe yes, not believe no.
02:04:54.000 But don't say you don't believe.
02:04:57.000 Learn about it.
02:04:58.000 Learn about it and then have an opinion.
02:05:00.000 But you're stating this opinion without having any real understanding of what climate science is.
02:05:04.000 But that's exactly what an opinion is.
02:05:06.000 Like I said, if you said that, Candice, you went on to 10,000 college campuses and you said that global warming wasn't real, then we'd have a problem.
02:05:12.000 You and I are just having a conversation.
02:05:14.000 Yeah, but why have an opinion on something that you don't have data about?
02:05:17.000 This is my question.
02:05:18.000 I don't necessarily have an opinion on climate science.
02:05:22.000 I really don't.
02:05:23.000 Because I don't know much about it.
02:05:24.000 But what I do know is that what I've read is that the vast majority of people who study it are in agreement that human beings are affected by it.
02:05:33.000 Just my recall on a lot of things that I read, and this was a while ago, so this is when I first formed my opinion on not believing this, I read a shit ton of articles.
02:05:41.000 Can't recall the data because, like I said, this wasn't something I was super passionate about.
02:05:44.000 It was like somebody posted something, and then I went on a tear reading about it.
02:05:48.000 But it was essentially just noting that in a lot of these studies, like when you go and you, if we had time to sit down and really pull this up, they're pulling, you know, 10,000 scientists that are within a community that is, like, these.orgs, do you believe in everything that MediaMatters.org puts out for statistics?
02:06:06.000 Right?
02:06:07.000 That's a political, that's a political arm of the Democratic Party.
02:06:09.000 We're talking about a different subject.
02:06:11.000 I know, but I'm just...
02:06:12.000 But politics?
02:06:13.000 Yeah.
02:06:13.000 Versus science.
02:06:14.000 But this has been politicized.
02:06:16.000 That's the thing.
02:06:16.000 Science has been politicized.
02:06:17.000 Yes, it has.
02:06:18.000 Global warming in particular has been politicized.
02:06:20.000 100% it has been politicized.
02:06:22.000 That's the whole reason I fell down this dark hole one night reading about it.
02:06:25.000 And I was like, you know what, at the end of the day, I don't really care.
02:06:28.000 I think maybe it has been politicized, but I think that's also maybe why you're saying you don't agree with it so quickly.
02:06:32.000 Right.
02:06:33.000 And Tony, that's why I read it.
02:06:34.000 It's an ideological right-wing point, is that global warming isn't real.
02:06:39.000 Right.
02:06:39.000 If you're one of those people that thinks global warming isn't real, you're almost always on the right.
02:06:43.000 Right.
02:06:43.000 And that's fine.
02:06:44.000 But I'm telling you that, like, again, I didn't do a deep dive on all of this because I read about it because it was at a forefront of discussion.
02:06:50.000 So I read about it all night.
02:06:52.000 And my conclusion was that they started pulling up all of these studies and the person that, you know, did this that I did a deep dive on.
02:06:57.000 And they started showing how, like, these community of scientists were, in fact, somewhere behind that dot org as someone that was being funded.
02:07:03.000 So to me, the issue got too politicized for me to believe that global warming was something that was going to wipe out the world.
02:07:10.000 Now...
02:07:10.000 Scientists get funded.
02:07:12.000 That is a fact.
02:07:12.000 But that doesn't mean that the funding affects the scientific research and the data, which they all agree on.
02:07:19.000 And this is universally across the entire planet.
02:07:23.000 Thousands and thousands of scientists would not stake their reputation on false data.
02:07:28.000 What they're saying is not that the only reason why the world is getting warm is because human beings.
02:07:35.000 That the only reason why the climate isn't totally static for the rest of eternity is because of human beings.
02:07:40.000 What they're saying is we are negatively impacting our own environment and we're doing it because we have poor technology and we use coal and fossil fuels and emissions and we're raising our CO2 levels and this is based on data.
02:07:57.000 And this is something that you can look at. 0.52
02:08:00.000 You could look at the data and follow where they're getting this information from and follow how they're making these conclusions and follow the vast majority of these brilliant people who study this shit their whole life. 0.97
02:08:12.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.84
02:08:12.000 And look, if I was a person that was putting forth policy on climate change or if I was a person that put out my opinion publicly on climate change, I would do all of that. 0.84
02:08:22.000 I'm just not.
02:08:23.000 I understand what you're saying, but what I'm saying is that you're a very smart person, and people listen to you, and they're going to listen to you for a long time, I believe.
02:08:29.000 But this is what I hate.
02:08:30.000 But this is what I hate.
02:08:31.000 Because then it's like, Candice, you have to have a form of opinion on everything.
02:08:35.000 No, no, no, you don't have to have a form of opinion on everything. 0.99
02:08:36.000 What you do have to have is the ability to know when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 0.98
02:08:41.000 But I just said that. 0.99
02:08:42.000 I said that to you the entire time.
02:08:43.000 But you said you don't believe it.
02:08:44.000 Yeah, I said I don't believe it.
02:08:45.000 And then you asked me, and I said this wouldn't be the hill I chose to die on because I don't follow it.
02:08:49.000 But why even say you don't believe in it?
02:08:52.000 How about not have a belief until you really have looked at the data?
02:08:56.000 Okay, so you would prefer if my language, as opposed to admitting that I do not know this, I wouldn't die, I've never made a public statement, you would have preferred if I had just started by saying, I have no opinion.
02:09:06.000 No, I don't know.
02:09:07.000 Okay.
02:09:08.000 That's what I'm saying.
02:09:09.000 But I said I didn't know.
02:09:10.000 No, you say I don't believe in it.
02:09:11.000 Yeah.
02:09:12.000 I don't believe in it.
02:09:12.000 You're saying really clearly that you don't think it's real.
02:09:15.000 Yeah, so I mean, I think it would be the same if I said to you, like, you know, do you believe in God?
02:09:22.000 No, I would say I don't know.
02:09:23.000 I feel like this is sort of like linguistics, though.
02:09:26.000 No, I would say I don't know.
02:09:27.000 I always say I don't know.
02:09:29.000 I'm agnostic.
02:09:30.000 Most people say, like, I believe it or I don't, right?
02:09:33.000 I think a lot of people say they don't know.
02:09:35.000 Okay, I think believe is definitely a word that's associated with God.
02:09:38.000 Right, but a lot of people say that they don't know if they believe in God.
02:09:40.000 But if you say I don't believe in God, and then somebody starts saying, oh, you need to form it, it's like...
02:09:45.000 I just don't believe in it.
02:09:47.000 No, you don't because God is not scientific data.
02:09:49.000 Right.
02:09:50.000 There's a big difference between measuring the CO2 levels in the atmosphere and deciding whether or not there's an afterlife.
02:09:55.000 Right.
02:09:57.000 I'm sorry that I just don't believe in global warming.
02:10:00.000 I'm happy to...
02:10:01.000 You're allowed to not believe in it.
02:10:03.000 That's all I've been trying to say is I don't believe in it.
02:10:05.000 My problem is you're an influencer and you're a very bright person.
02:10:08.000 But if somebody had asked me at a place where I'm influencing on a college campus, what's your opinion?
02:10:13.000 I would say I have none.
02:10:14.000 I bet you would say, I don't believe in it like you just did.
02:10:17.000 That is absolutely not true.
02:10:18.000 But you just did it.
02:10:19.000 There are so many instances where you could watch this.
02:10:22.000 And you can ask Dave Rubin.
02:10:23.000 When he asks me a question, I say, I don't have an opinion on it.
02:10:25.000 About a different subject, perhaps.
02:10:26.000 Yeah, because you and I are having a conversation one-on-one.
02:10:29.000 I'm not sitting here to try to...
02:10:30.000 I don't go on campus talking about global warming because I don't have an opinion on it.
02:10:34.000 But if you press me and ask me if I believe in it, no, I don't really believe in it.
02:10:38.000 But could I go deep dive and learn that perhaps I'm wrong?
02:10:42.000 Sure.
02:10:42.000 I personally am inclined to believe that a lot of those studies are manipulated.
02:10:46.000 As I said, during the one night that I did deep dive on it, when they showed all the pieces of evidence or whatever, it just seemed a little shady, and I felt that it was politicized.
02:10:54.000 But I think that I have a right to say that I don't believe in something that I also don't know.
02:10:58.000 And that's what I said to you.
02:10:58.000 I don't believe in it, but I wouldn't die in this hill.
02:11:00.000 I don't know enough about it.
02:11:02.000 You did say you wouldn't die in this hill.
02:11:03.000 Yeah.
02:11:03.000 But you also said you don't believe in it, and you stated the reason why, because you think it's a scam.
02:11:09.000 Yeah.
02:11:09.000 Yeah.
02:11:10.000 That's the truth.
02:11:11.000 What do you want me to do?
02:11:11.000 Do you want me to lie to you?
02:11:12.000 No, it's okay, but I think it's a complicated issue.
02:11:15.000 It's very, very complicated.
02:11:17.000 It may be complicated.
02:11:17.000 That's fine.
02:11:18.000 But what do you want me to lie to you and say I'm not a politician?
02:11:21.000 No.
02:11:23.000 I feel like this is like the editing of people do when they're like, oh, Obama, if they ask you a question and you don't know, this is the way...
02:11:27.000 I'm not running for office.
02:11:29.000 I'm talking to you.
02:11:30.000 I don't believe in it.
02:11:31.000 I appreciate that.
02:11:32.000 I appreciate that.
02:11:33.000 I can't be fake.
02:11:34.000 This is my number one problem in life is I can't be fake.
02:11:36.000 And I know that you're pressing me here and that you want me to adjust and to say I do not have an opinion.
02:11:42.000 I'm not a politician.
02:11:43.000 I'm telling you, I don't believe in it.
02:11:45.000 Could I change my perspective and believe in it a year after I read stuff?
02:11:48.000 If you were just a regular person and you said, I don't believe in it, I'd probably go, all right.
02:11:51.000 The problem is you're not...
02:11:54.000 You're a very influential person.
02:11:56.000 But I'm aware when I'm on stage, when I'm on my YouTube channel, there's no videos of Candace Owens talking about global warming.
02:12:02.000 I'm aware of that.
02:12:03.000 There is now.
02:12:04.000 Yeah, exactly.
02:12:05.000 Now it's going to be joking against global warming.
02:12:07.000 I just, yeah, exactly.
02:12:09.000 And people are going to be mad at me. 1.00
02:12:10.000 You're fucking global warming shill. 1.00
02:12:12.000 Global warming's fake. 1.00
02:12:12.000 You know what's funny, though, is that this feels so like we're not on the internet right now. 1.00
02:12:16.000 I still don't feel like we're on the internet.
02:12:18.000 This is the problem, yeah.
02:12:19.000 But if you and I were on a college campus, I'd be like, eh.
02:12:22.000 I'm not really sure. 0.98
02:12:23.000 I don't know jack shit about global warming. 0.94
02:12:27.000 I really don't. 0.96
02:12:28.000 I think the real fear is not even global warming.
02:12:30.000 The real fear is global cooling.
02:12:32.000 The Ice Age is the most terrifying thing that can happen to human beings. 1.00
02:12:34.000 When that shit happens, everybody dies. 0.99
02:12:37.000 Global warming, you just move inland. 1.00
02:12:39.000 I think that the real thing that people are concerned about is just beyond any of that stuff.
02:12:44.000 I don't know.
02:12:44.000 I think that there's more concerns in society.
02:12:46.000 I personally think that some scientists started talking about global warming and it got politicized and they figured it was another way to extract human beings' money because of fear.
02:12:53.000 That's my opinion.
02:12:53.000 I think there's probably some truth to that.
02:12:56.000 And then they said, we're going to find our core scientists that agree with everything we say.
02:12:59.000 It's been proven that Harvard studies have been incorrect because they were being funded by certain political interest groups.
02:13:05.000 So I'm not inclined to pull up something on...
02:13:10.000 I'm blanking, it'll come back to me in a second, but there were Harvard papers that have been funded by certain researchers that are trying to get a certain political position out, and it causes mass fear, and people are willing to spend their money a certain way.
02:13:20.000 It's entirely possible.
02:13:21.000 It is.
02:13:21.000 It's real.
02:13:22.000 That's very real.
02:13:22.000 People are flawed.
02:13:23.000 So I'm not inclined when someone pulls up an article and says, look, 10,000 scientists, I err on the side of, okay, I don't know who those scientists are, I don't know what this organization is funded by, so I'm going to stick by my guns and say I don't really believe in it yet.
02:13:33.000 Now, if I decide that I'm going to run for office and I've got to make a decision on the atmosphere and what we're going to do about global warming and CO2 emissions, you better believe I will be fully ready to discuss it.
02:13:42.000 I'm not going to make a YouTube video and just know the outskirts of it.
02:13:45.000 I don't do that, right?
02:13:46.000 But if you and I are having a discussion, sorry, I don't believe in it.
02:13:49.000 Like, I don't know what else to say.
02:13:51.000 Open to learning.
02:13:54.000 I'm always open to learning.
02:13:55.000 I've been wrong before.
02:13:56.000 I was a liberal two years ago, or three years ago, so that's not a problem.
02:14:00.000 I'm open to learning, but I'm not going to...
02:14:04.000 Like say something that feels inauthentic and what I wanted to say there was I don't believe in it It's just one of those things that it's become it's a real right-wing talking point It's like there's very few people like like pro-life is a very right-wing talking points very few I would imagine I'm not just guessing but very few liberals who are also pro-life Well,
02:14:21.000 no.
02:14:22.000 So when I first went on Dave Rubin's show, he asked me about that.
02:14:25.000 And I said, I don't really know.
02:14:26.000 I'm forming my opinion on it.
02:14:27.000 Like, just like you and I just said about global warming.
02:14:29.000 I said to Dave Rubin about pro-life and pro-choice.
02:14:33.000 And he was like, this is the first time someone has just said that.
02:14:35.000 Like, just said that I'm forming an opinion on it and didn't feel like they needed to get an answer.
02:14:38.000 And I said, I'm not a politician.
02:14:39.000 Same thing I'm saying to you.
02:14:40.000 Like, I can answer how I feel and I'm happy to learn.
02:14:44.000 Sure.
02:14:44.000 That's a different kind of subject though, right?
02:15:07.000 The idea that the left is so pro-choice at the same time that they are running around purporting Black Lives Matter, it doesn't make any sense.
02:15:14.000 When you look at the numbers of black babies never even get the chance to live, and when you look at the numbers and just understand that 17 million black babies have been exterminated since 1973. What kind of black lives do you care about? 1.00
02:15:25.000 I don't believe that a baby's life starts after three months. 1.00
02:15:28.000 I think that that's crap. 1.00
02:15:29.000 That's scientific crap. 0.99
02:15:30.000 And we could probably pull up some articles that say, for sure, the baby's life does not begin until three months. 0.99
02:15:35.000 But we want to know the best indication that the baby's life begins before it because you have to rip it out of the stomach in order to kill it.
02:15:40.000 If left alone, it would grow into a baby, right?
02:15:42.000 So, I've thought about that issue, and now I have a stance on it.
02:15:45.000 Like, and that would be my stance, you know, if I was President of the United States.
02:15:48.000 I don't want to be the President of the United States.
02:15:49.000 You know, let me say what Trump said.
02:15:51.000 Say that now.
02:15:52.000 If I stepped up, if my country needed me, like he said 10 years ago, I would step up and I would do the job, right?
02:15:57.000 Do you have aspirations?
02:15:59.000 I promise you, I get this question all the time on the road.
02:16:02.000 Candace, do you want to be in the White House?
02:16:03.000 Do you want to be in the White House?
02:16:04.000 I would love if Charlie Kirk was the President of the United States.
02:16:06.000 I would have fun being the press secretary.
02:16:09.000 I'd be like, just let him in.
02:16:10.000 Let the dogs in.
02:16:12.000 It just looks like a fun job because they're so crazy. 1.00
02:16:15.000 What the fuck is wrong? 1.00
02:16:15.000 What's wrong with you? 1.00
02:16:15.000 That looks like a fun job? 1.00
02:16:16.000 It does, because they're just so crazy.
02:16:18.000 Why would that be good?
02:16:20.000 You would have fun at that too, I feel like. 0.99
02:16:21.000 What the fuck I would? 0.99
02:16:21.000 That's what I'm saying. 0.99
02:16:22.000 It would be a fun job.
02:16:23.000 No.
02:16:23.000 They're so serious.
02:16:25.000 I'm like, you take yourself seriously, like Jim Acosta.
02:16:28.000 You'd be running the government of the greatest empire the world has ever known.
02:16:34.000 You think that would be fun?
02:16:36.000 That doesn't even seem remotely fun.
02:16:38.000 Yeah, I know.
02:16:38.000 I'm being a little facetious.
02:16:40.000 That seems insanely stressful.
02:16:41.000 Who's the press secretary now? 0.88
02:16:43.000 Sarah Sanders.
02:16:44.000 Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
02:16:45.000 She crushes it.
02:16:46.000 She looks stressed out!
02:16:47.000 Well, I think she's just trying to have a game face. 1.00
02:16:49.000 She's just like, what stupid question am I going to ask now? 1.00
02:16:51.000 She just looks like, Jesus Christ! 1.00
02:16:52.000 It's one of those things that's like, how far can you swim?
02:16:55.000 Some people could swim for 70 hours.
02:16:57.000 Nobody could swim forever.
02:16:59.000 And that's what that job looks like to me.
02:17:00.000 You just have to swim forever.
02:17:01.000 Yeah, nobody can swim forever.
02:17:04.000 I didn't start this because I wanted to get into politics.
02:17:07.000 I started this because I saw a dial that needed to be moved.
02:17:12.000 Well, you're obviously a very ambitious person.
02:17:15.000 You seem very ambitious.
02:17:17.000 Listen, I'm good no matter what space I'm in, whether like when I was in private equity, I'm always good at my job.
02:17:24.000 When I put my mind to something, I can do something and people will be blown away.
02:17:27.000 That's always been my character.
02:17:29.000 And I will do it despite people saying I can't.
02:17:32.000 To me, my whole to-do list is people telling me I can't.
02:17:36.000 I don't like when people try to put me in a box.
02:17:38.000 I really don't like the whole idea that because you were this, you can't be this.
02:17:42.000 It's like I'm always going to decide what's best for me.
02:17:44.000 Well, this seems like what led you to be Republican in the first place, right?
02:17:48.000 I'm not Republican.
02:17:48.000 Well, excuse me.
02:17:49.000 Right-wing.
02:17:50.000 What are you, if you're not Republican?
02:17:51.000 I'm independent.
02:17:52.000 You're independent right-wing?
02:17:54.000 Are you conservative?
02:17:55.000 What are you?
02:17:55.000 I would say I lean right.
02:17:57.000 I definitely lean right because that, to me, is just if you believe that people are allowed to have different opinions, you lean right.
02:18:02.000 Literally, that's where we're at right now.
02:18:04.000 You're not even allowed to have a dissenting opinion on the left.
02:18:07.000 Pro-Second Amendment, clearly.
02:18:08.000 Yes.
02:18:09.000 I just think it's a slippery slope.
02:18:10.000 Right.
02:18:10.000 Pro-life.
02:18:12.000 Right.
02:18:14.000 Anti-global warming.
02:18:15.000 You're checking off all the boxes.
02:18:17.000 The anti-global warming thing is like, this is like something that Joe Rogan has forced on me.
02:18:21.000 I genuinely, like, when I... We were getting along great up until then.
02:18:26.000 I know, right?
02:18:27.000 Like, this is...
02:18:28.000 I just, I have...
02:18:29.000 No reason to believe that because some scientists that could very well be funded, things are constantly being funded to create a public perception.
02:18:38.000 I very much believe that.
02:18:39.000 I see that.
02:18:40.000 And we see this just in the case of Donald Trump. 0.77
02:18:42.000 If you go poll people in California, they're going to say he's a racist extremist.
02:18:46.000 Whatever's put on the internet, people believe as the truth.
02:18:48.000 I like to do a deeper dive.
02:18:49.000 I have not done a deeper dive on global warming, save that one night when I went down Dark Hole.
02:18:53.000 What other right-wing talking points?
02:18:56.000 Is there any that you don't agree with?
02:18:58.000 Yes.
02:18:59.000 I don't know if this is still a thing, but I fully support gay marriage.
02:19:05.000 Okay, that's a good one.
02:19:06.000 And the reason is simple.
02:19:08.000 Regardless how people feel about gay marriage, the government has stepped in and is now doing marriage. 0.65
02:19:14.000 And the idea that two individuals that are in love should get tax cuts while the others shouldn't is...
02:19:20.000 It's not sensical.
02:19:22.000 I personally don't think the government should have gotten involved in marriages in the first place. 0.99
02:19:26.000 But because they have, you can't sit here and decide that two gay men don't get tax cuts and a man and a woman do.
02:19:32.000 That's wrong from a governing perspective.
02:19:34.000 I agree with you 100%.
02:19:36.000 Yeah, that's a good one.
02:19:37.000 Yeah, that's a good one because that's one that gets slippery. 0.99
02:19:39.000 Even Caitlyn Jenner isn't in a gay marriage, which is fucking hilarious. 1.00
02:19:44.000 Yeah, I know. 0.99
02:19:44.000 That one is like... 0.99
02:19:45.000 Yeah.
02:19:46.000 This can't get anywhere.
02:19:47.000 I have cousins that are gay, even though, despite the fact on the internet, I found I'm anti-LGBT, which is insane.
02:19:53.000 But I just think that since the government has stepped up and decided it's going to be in it, if it's the governing body, everyone should have a right to the same tax cuts when you get married.
02:20:01.000 Why is the government involved in marriage? 0.97
02:20:02.000 They shouldn't be.
02:20:03.000 They shouldn't be.
02:20:03.000 That's the real problem, but nobody talks about that.
02:20:05.000 How are they involved?
02:20:06.000 In what way?
02:20:08.000 You have to get married through the government. 1.00
02:20:09.000 You get a piece of paper from the government.
02:20:10.000 It gets recognized by the government.
02:20:11.000 You can check certain boxes when you do your taxes because you're married.
02:20:15.000 So since the government is doing that, there's no reason why, if two guys live in the same house, that they should not be allowed to get tax cuts.
02:20:21.000 So the difference, it's the separation of the church and the state, right?
02:20:25.000 Well, the state has taken on something that traditionally was in the church, and because the state has, you have to look at it objectively, despite your personal feelings.
02:20:32.000 Look at it objectively, and every person has a right to...
02:20:35.000 To get a tax cut because they married the person that they love.
02:20:39.000 Well, I'm 100% with you on the gay marriage thing.
02:20:42.000 So what other ones don't you agree with?
02:20:45.000 Is there any other right-wing talking points?
02:20:46.000 I don't even think about right-wing talking points.
02:20:49.000 Build that wall.
02:20:50.000 Build that wall.
02:20:52.000 Okay, so first off, a chance just hilarious.
02:20:54.000 So it's funny.
02:20:54.000 Just jump in it, you know?
02:20:55.000 But so the number one thing, so my whole shtick, the only time I snap back or get upset is because I'm really focused on the black community, dude.
02:21:02.000 And the community that has been affected the most by illegal immigration is the black community.
02:21:06.000 It's just a fact.
02:21:07.000 I mean, you talk about low-wage workers.
02:21:09.000 The people that are the most unemployed in this company are young black men between the ages of 18 and 21. Right? 0.98
02:21:13.000 So they have been negatively impacted by the influx of people running over the border, because they'll come here and they'll say, okay, well, you were going to pay this guy $7, you know, whatever the minimum wage is, we'll do it for less.
02:21:25.000 And that directly impacts the black labor force.
02:21:28.000 So I, you know, I recognize that we very much have an immigration problem. 0.54
02:21:32.000 I think that the immigration, you know, they talk about diversity.
02:21:35.000 It's not diverse whatsoever.
02:21:36.000 Half of the immigrants that we take in are from Mexico.
02:21:38.000 That's making America Mexico. 0.99
02:21:39.000 That's a problem.
02:21:40.000 If you want to take in some more from Africa, that'd be great.
02:21:43.000 Only 3% come from Africa, or I think 4% last year came from Africa.
02:21:47.000 It's a tougher commute.
02:21:48.000 It's a tougher commute, right?
02:21:50.000 But the truth is that the argument that is behind people that are so pro-immigration and against the wall is that it's about diversity.
02:21:56.000 It's not about diversity.
02:21:56.000 If it's about diversity, let's go look around the country and actually make it diverse.
02:22:00.000 There are tons of people that live in Africa that work their asses off that would love an opportunity to be in America. 1.00
02:22:04.000 And we need to work that system out.
02:22:06.000 Just because they have a geo-advantage here doesn't make it fair.
02:22:11.000 So I'm pro-coming up with a solution for immigration because it's negatively impacting America. 1.00
02:22:18.000 But you're running for president, Candace.
02:22:20.000 That's what I'm hearing.
02:22:20.000 I am not running for president.
02:22:22.000 I'm hearing people going crazy and chanting.
02:22:24.000 You need a, like, a...
02:22:25.000 What would be my slogan?
02:22:26.000 Let's just do it.
02:22:27.000 What would be my slogan?
02:22:28.000 Make America Great Again is already taken.
02:22:29.000 No, he took it.
02:22:30.000 You need another one.
02:22:31.000 Keep making America better?
02:22:33.000 No.
02:22:36.000 Even better.
02:22:37.000 Even more badass.
02:22:39.000 Even more better.
02:22:40.000 I don't know. 0.96
02:22:41.000 No, but these are the things that, so anything, like, in every situation, and you'll see this if you watch, like, Charlie and I live on campuses when we do this, every situation where I'm asked my opinion, my answer is tailored towards the black community because I just think that we have really gotten the shit out of the stick. 0.72
02:22:53.000 Do you write a lot of this stuff? 0.86
02:22:55.000 A lot of these thoughts out?
02:22:56.000 Are they just locked in your head?
02:22:58.000 They're locked in my head.
02:22:59.000 I read.
02:23:00.000 I make cards to just remember certain numbers and to watch.
02:23:04.000 And I just do that every night.
02:23:05.000 Does this kind of weird you out? 0.99
02:23:06.000 That a couple years ago you were liberal and now you're not just a conservative, but you're on all these fucking cable network shows? 0.99
02:23:14.000 Yeah. 0.93
02:23:15.000 You're constantly talking about it, and a lot of people look at you as like the hope for the future.
02:23:20.000 You get a good-looking 28-year-old woman who's super articulate and smart, and you can rattle off facts and statistics and talk real good on camera. 1.00
02:23:29.000 We got one!
02:23:30.000 We got a good one!
02:23:31.000 You know, that's what they look like.
02:23:31.000 I mean, anyone young and vibrant...
02:23:34.000 That's what every political party looks towards.
02:23:37.000 Right.
02:23:38.000 Like, you know, whether it's on the left or on the...
02:23:39.000 I mean, they're constantly looking for somebody on the left.
02:23:41.000 They're looking right now.
02:23:41.000 We need someone to go against Trump.
02:23:43.000 We need someone.
02:23:43.000 We need someone good.
02:23:46.000 Charlie Booker.
02:23:47.000 We need someone.
02:23:48.000 We need someone. 1.00
02:23:49.000 Cory Booker's a psychopath. 0.99
02:23:50.000 Did I say Charlie? 0.99
02:23:51.000 Sorry, Cory. 0.99
02:23:52.000 He's like, He's a psychopath? 0.96
02:23:54.000 He's just an actor. 0.88
02:23:55.000 It just doesn't come across as authentic to me, but whatever.
02:23:57.000 Someone's a hater.
02:23:58.000 I do not like Cory Booker.
02:23:59.000 I don't know Cory.
02:24:00.000 I don't like him whatsoever.
02:24:01.000 I bet he's a great guy.
02:24:02.000 He could be, personally, but publicly he's representing himself fictitiously, in my opinion.
02:24:07.000 That's just my opinion.
02:24:08.000 Sticking to it.
02:24:09.000 Someone sounds like a politician.
02:24:10.000 No, stop! 0.98
02:24:12.000 Attack!
02:24:13.000 He knows how to go on the attack.
02:24:15.000 No.
02:24:16.000 It's the language I really don't like when people sit on a stage and go, racism, racism, racism.
02:24:21.000 To me, it's insulting to people's intelligence. 0.62
02:24:24.000 Talk to the black community about what's going on in the black community. 0.99
02:24:25.000 You don't need to scare them. 0.98
02:24:26.000 The fear politics pisses me off.
02:24:28.000 And that's what they do.
02:24:29.000 Every four years, it's fear politics.
02:24:30.000 Well, you gotta vote for us because racism, racism, racism.
02:24:33.000 That's manipulating us.
02:24:34.000 That's using fear to control what we do.
02:24:37.000 We have a right to just be presented with the facts and being allowed to make a decision on our own.
02:24:41.000 That's my really perspective.
02:24:42.000 That's the big thing that's been so controversial.
02:24:44.000 Candace Owens thinks that the black community should be spoken to about what's going on in their communities.
02:24:49.000 They shouldn't be thrown Jay-Z and Beyonce concerts a la Hillary Clinton. 1.00
02:24:52.000 Is that really that controversial of a thought?
02:24:55.000 It's broken the internet.
02:24:56.000 I go out and I say, hey, I think that there might be a little more to the story than everybody's racist.
02:25:00.000 And they go, oh my God, like she can't say that.
02:25:02.000 I'm not the first black conservative to do this.
02:25:04.000 I don't know why I'm the most like controversial that this has turned into like...
02:25:08.000 We already highlighted it.
02:25:09.000 You're young and you're good looking and you're very articulate.
02:25:10.000 But I'm not the only good looking conservative articulate person.
02:25:14.000 Find me another young one.
02:25:15.000 Yeah.
02:25:16.000 How many you got?
02:25:18.000 Young, whip-smart, fast with the tongue.
02:25:21.000 And I do want to say this.
02:25:22.000 I think that the people on the left, they say, oh, it's just because she's a black girl and she's agreeing with them.
02:25:27.000 It's like, no, it's because for the first time, someone has the audacity, and it's not the first time.
02:25:31.000 I met with Secretary Ben Carson last week.
02:25:33.000 Lovely man.
02:25:33.000 Lovely man.
02:25:34.000 You should have him on here sometime.
02:25:34.000 Seems like a nice guy.
02:25:36.000 Brilliant, lovely. 0.99
02:25:37.000 They threw out all that shit when people were hating on him and angry at him. 0.99
02:25:40.000 Never lost his cool. 1.00
02:25:41.000 He's so calm.
02:25:42.000 So imagine he and I meeting and I'm like, knock him down, let me out.
02:25:46.000 He's like, hello Candice.
02:25:48.000 I'm a brain surgeon.
02:25:50.000 That's what you want though for a dude who's operating on brains.
02:25:53.000 I know, calm.
02:25:55.000 I'm like, here's what we're going to do.
02:25:56.000 We're in his office.
02:25:56.000 And we just love each other.
02:25:59.000 I mean, it was just a love affair.
02:26:02.000 I didn't realize that I was so intellectually uninspired my whole life because I was in a room with people that didn't understand me.
02:26:10.000 And I never realized how misunderstood I felt until I got into a room with Secretary Ben Carson.
02:26:17.000 And he just got me.
02:26:19.000 And Armstrong Williams, who was a close friend of his, and he just got me.
02:26:22.000 And Kanye West, right?
02:26:24.000 They just get me.
02:26:25.000 And it's been so inspiring, and I'm so happy.
02:26:28.000 And I don't think I've ever been this happy in my entire life.
02:26:31.000 That's why it's hard for me to ever take a negative perspective on anything, really.
02:26:35.000 Except for global warming.
02:26:39.000 It's not real.
02:26:44.000 Because I'm like, I feel so alive.
02:26:47.000 Like I feel vivacious and I see the change happening in the black community where I'm like, all you have to do is be an individual.
02:26:54.000 I do not tell, I don't go on campus and say vote for Trump.
02:26:56.000 I don't say, you need to be a Republican.
02:26:58.000 I actually have tons of problems with Republicans.
02:27:00.000 People just don't ask me.
02:27:01.000 They assume I'm a Republican.
02:27:02.000 They assume I'm a registered Republican.
02:27:04.000 That's just not true.
02:27:05.000 And I fully support the President.
02:27:07.000 I love the guy.
02:27:07.000 I don't know what to say.
02:27:08.000 I love President Trump.
02:27:09.000 I love his son.
02:27:10.000 I love Don Trump Jr. I love Eric.
02:27:13.000 I love Ivanka.
02:27:14.000 And that's controversial.
02:27:16.000 You're allowed to love him?
02:27:17.000 They're great.
02:27:18.000 They're great people and I want you to meet them because when you can't not like them...
02:27:21.000 This could go terribly wrong.
02:27:23.000 This could go bad.
02:27:25.000 But think about Donald Trump Jr. This is a guy who is out hunting moose.
02:27:29.000 Well, Donald Trump Jr. is friends with friends of mine.
02:27:30.000 I text him.
02:27:31.000 I know the guy.
02:27:32.000 He's freaking awesome.
02:27:32.000 He's supposed to come in here.
02:27:33.000 We're supposed to play Technohunt.
02:27:34.000 I have a video archery game here.
02:27:36.000 And he's really like...
02:27:39.000 A grizzly bear out in the wilderness and nature.
02:27:41.000 They've gotten a really unfair shake in the media.
02:27:44.000 You should be like their spokesperson.
02:27:45.000 I love them.
02:27:46.000 It's authentic.
02:27:47.000 It's not like you're hustling for a job.
02:27:49.000 No, I've actually explicitly said I don't want to work on the administration.
02:27:53.000 What if someone came along and said, we've got a sweet deal for you?
02:27:55.000 No, I've already been offered.
02:27:56.000 Just so everybody knows who thinks, oh, she's pining for... 1.00
02:27:59.000 I've been offered shows.
02:28:00.000 Everything that you think that I'm going towards, I've already been offered.
02:28:04.000 I actually believe in what I'm doing and I'm building my own company.
02:28:07.000 I believe in it.
02:28:08.000 Super ambitious.
02:28:09.000 Doesn't want to work for anybody.
02:28:10.000 I don't want to work for anybody because then you have confines.
02:28:11.000 Let's say I went in, for example, worked for CNN or Fox News, right? 0.97
02:28:15.000 Then I can't say David Hogg kind of sucks. 0.68
02:28:17.000 But that tweet I would have had to remove about Chelsea Handler. 0.96
02:28:20.000 Oh, right, right, right.
02:28:21.000 Outrage machine.
02:28:21.000 The best thing ever is when Jake's like deleted it.
02:28:23.000 I'm like, haha, no.
02:28:24.000 In fact, I'm going to retweet it.
02:28:26.000 You could get away with it.
02:28:27.000 Like Samantha, she did the right thing by apologizing.
02:28:30.000 She made the right action.
02:28:31.000 She took the correct action.
02:28:33.000 Yeah, she did.
02:28:34.000 She made the correct action.
02:28:35.000 But what's so beautiful about me is I'm free.
02:28:37.000 I say whatever I want, and then they say, delete it, and I retweet it.
02:28:40.000 By the way, to me, that's freedom.
02:28:43.000 That's the best part of this, is that I'm truly free.
02:28:45.000 I can say whatever I want.
02:28:46.000 I don't have advertisers that you can boycott.
02:28:49.000 I can say my Twitter feed is just me.
02:28:52.000 That is a very powerful thing.
02:28:53.000 Yeah, I feel so empowered.
02:28:55.000 It's a very good thing, you know, and I'm sure your ideas, I mean, there's no better way to have your ideas expressed than to have no one that you're beholden to, to have no boss.
02:29:06.000 Yeah, I love that, and that's why it was like, you know, I started working with Charlie, and then I started building my own company, and now he's a part of my company, and now we work for each other, and it's just like, we're mission-driven, and I do support the president, but I don't want to go work in the administration.
02:29:18.000 That seems like a really, the worst job in America.
02:29:20.000 That's what I'm I'm just saying, why are you talking about wanting to be the secretary of press?
02:29:24.000 No, no.
02:29:24.000 Particularly this administration has got it because they're so angry and bitter about losing.
02:29:30.000 By the time 2024 comes around, it'll be a little different, but they've just been like, oh, they're just like, you can sense it.
02:29:37.000 They're angry.
02:29:38.000 There's definitely an ideological war going on.
02:29:40.000 It clouds a lot of thinking.
02:29:43.000 And who's winning?
02:29:44.000 I don't know.
02:29:44.000 You tell me.
02:29:44.000 Who's winning?
02:29:45.000 We're winning.
02:29:46.000 We?
02:29:46.000 You're Republican now.
02:29:48.000 No, I didn't say Republican.
02:29:50.000 Who's we?
02:29:51.000 No, we're winning.
02:29:52.000 The independent thinkers.
02:29:53.000 The people that think, yeah, see?
02:29:54.000 See?
02:29:54.000 Okay, just checking.
02:29:56.000 Yeah, exactly.
02:29:57.000 You're Republican now.
02:29:58.000 No.
02:29:59.000 Me?
02:29:59.000 The people that have this mentality.
02:30:00.000 The people that are freedom-driven.
02:30:03.000 That just want to be able to have different ideas.
02:30:05.000 And that's why I snap back at...
02:30:07.000 I'm not a product of the right.
02:30:09.000 I don't want people to go, oh, Candace is destroying the left and she wants to create a monolith on the right. 0.97
02:30:14.000 No.
02:30:14.000 Wrong.
02:30:15.000 All I want Black people to do is understand you have a right to like certain ideas on both sides, but what you should never allow is for someone to use your identity to define how you have to think. 0.98
02:30:24.000 You should always be the person defining how you think.
02:30:26.000 That's the message that I say on college campuses.
02:30:29.000 That's a very good message. 0.99
02:30:30.000 Candice, we could probably talk for hours, but I gotta get the fuck out of here. 0.98
02:30:33.000 I know, I gotta fly to Wyoming. 0.95
02:30:34.000 I'm out.
02:30:35.000 You're going to Wyoming?
02:30:35.000 Yeah, right now.
02:30:36.000 You're going to hang out with Kanye on the ranch?
02:30:38.000 Maybe.
02:30:39.000 Maybe.
02:30:39.000 Yes, that's what she's doing.
02:30:41.000 She's going to go ride horses and shit. 1.00
02:30:43.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:30:43.000 Piss off some more liberals. 1.00
02:30:45.000 You're a firecracker. 0.97
02:30:46.000 Thank you.
02:30:46.000 Good luck to you.
02:30:47.000 I really enjoyed talking to you.
02:30:48.000 We'll do this again sometime, okay?
02:30:49.000 Absolutely.
02:30:49.000 Thank you, Candice.
02:30:50.000 Thank you.
02:30:51.000 Woo! 0.99