The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1224 - Adam Greentree

00:00:04.000 Three, two, one.

00:00:07.000 All the way from down under!

00:00:10.000 How are you, brother?

00:00:10.000 What's going on?

00:00:11.000 I'm good.

00:00:11.000 Good to see you again, man.

00:00:12.000 Yeah, hell yeah.

00:00:13.000 You're on a wild, magical mystery tour of the United States of America here.

00:00:17.000 I am.

00:00:17.000 It's been amazing.

00:00:18.000 With your kids?

00:00:18.000 You cute little kids?

00:00:19.000 Yeah.

00:00:20.000 They're cute.

00:00:20.000 They're cute if they're not your own.

00:00:22.000 Am I adorable?

00:00:23.000 I love kids.

00:00:24.000 But you're taking them, too.

00:00:27.000 You took everybody.

00:00:28.000 Yeah.

00:00:28.000 You're here for how many months?

00:00:30.000 Five months.

00:00:31.000 You moving?

00:00:32.000 Tired of Australia?

00:00:33.000 No, hell no.

00:00:34.000 Just a big trip.

00:00:35.000 No, it's better over here.

00:00:36.000 It is.

00:00:37.000 I love America.

00:00:38.000 Is it better?

00:00:39.000 Can't say that.

00:00:40.000 They won't let you back in.

00:00:41.000 Yeah, probably not.

00:00:43.000 They're very different, you know, but the American landscape, how unique the landscape is, you know, from the Rocky Mountains, you know, to the desert, it's just insane.

00:00:52.000 Does Australia have any mountains?

00:00:53.000 Yeah, heaps, yeah. 0.99

00:00:54.000 Everyone thinks Australia's just like this fucking flat piece of sand, don't they? 1.00

00:00:58.000 Yeah, yeah, with monsters in it. 1.00

00:01:01.000 There's heaps of mountain ranges and shit. 0.99

00:01:03.000 Really? 0.99

00:01:03.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:01:04.000 How tall do they get?

00:01:05.000 I don't know the height, but they're up there.

00:01:08.000 Like a real mountain?

00:01:09.000 Like Rocky Mountain Mountain?

00:01:10.000 Like a real mountain, like Rocky Mountain, yeah.

00:01:11.000 Really?

00:01:12.000 Yeah.

00:01:12.000 Wow.

00:01:13.000 Dude, let me tell you something.

00:01:14.000 Your 28 days that you did in the Rocky Mountains out here that we put on Instagram, you know, that we're promoting it constantly, that was like one of the most talked about.

00:01:24.000 I got calls from all my friends. 0.93

00:01:26.000 Bert Kreischer was fucking obsessed with you. 0.98

00:01:29.000 He wouldn't stop calling me about it. 1.00

00:01:31.000 He's like, the fucking guy's by himself! 1.00

00:01:33.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:01:33.000 The video with him with the grizzly bear and he's pointing the gun at it? 1.00

00:01:36.000 Jesus Christ! 1.00

00:01:37.000 The fucking weirdest thing is that's normal shit. 1.00

00:01:40.000 It is. 1.00

00:01:41.000 That's very normal, but society's so removed from it now.

00:01:44.000 Well, if you're out there, it's normal to get false charged by a grizzly bear.

00:01:49.000 You're living with nature, yeah. 0.99

00:01:51.000 It's one good reason to not fucking be out there. 0.97

00:01:55.000 I was talking with Kim about this. 0.98

00:01:57.000 We hiked into the back of Montana to the spot that's usually got a bunch of grizzly bears that I go to.

00:02:02.000 And we're talking about you, how you won't come out to Australia hunting because you're scared of everything.

00:02:07.000 The difference is, when you're walking around the mountains here, it can happen at any point. 0.99

00:02:12.000 Because fucking grizzly bears have got feet. 1.00

00:02:14.000 They walk on land. 1.00

00:02:15.000 In Australia, you pretty much have to go into the water.

00:02:18.000 So you're only worried about that when you go to collect water or you're thinking about having a wash or something.

00:02:23.000 Here, it's full time.

00:02:24.000 For whatever reason...

00:02:27.000 It doesn't bother me as much to get killed and eaten by a bear than it does a giant saltwater crocodile.

00:02:32.000 It should.

00:02:33.000 I reckon the crocodile would be nicer.

00:02:35.000 What?

00:02:36.000 Yeah, it'd be nicer.

00:02:37.000 It'd, like, grab you, drag you down, you'd drown anyway, you know, and then it would do what it wants with you. 1.00

00:02:43.000 A grizzly bear's gonna fucking maul you, scratch your face off, bite your neck, take chunks out of you. 1.00

00:02:48.000 It's gonna be longer, dude. 1.00

00:02:50.000 Yeah, but it's American. 1.00

00:02:54.000 We don't want no foreign shit eating us. 1.00

00:02:56.000 Yeah, I ain't fucking no foreigners eating me. 1.00

00:02:59.000 There's something about grizzly bears that's the most terrifying thing is that they just eat you. 0.99

00:03:04.000 They don't kill you first.

00:03:05.000 They just hold you down and start eating you.

00:03:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:07.000 They treat you the same way they treat a salmon.

00:03:09.000 When you see them holding on a salmon and they take big bites out of it, they don't make sure they kill that salmon.

00:03:14.000 There's no nice thought behind it.

00:03:15.000 It's like, yeah, I'll finish it off first and then...

00:03:18.000 No.

00:03:18.000 Did you see the mountain lion that I end up hunting when I was out here?

00:03:21.000 Yes, I did, yeah.

00:03:22.000 And, like, mountain lions usually kill their prey, but obviously grab the calf, and it was eating this calf while it was still alive, like a beef cow calf.

00:03:30.000 Yeah, I saw the video of that.

00:03:31.000 Yeah, pretty disturbing.

00:03:33.000 And then I seen one not long ago.

00:03:35.000 Someone shared with me with a mountain lion dragon a mule deer down, and it's, like, chomping on this mule deer before it actually dies, you know, and it's like...

00:03:43.000 There's just not that thought process there.

00:03:46.000 There's not that human.

00:03:47.000 No, as long as they make sure that they have it as a meal and it's not going anywhere, they'll just start eating.

00:03:52.000 It's done.

00:03:52.000 Yeah.

00:03:53.000 Wolves do the same thing.

00:03:55.000 Some friends were elk hunting and they came across this elk who these wolves had torn the back legs apart and it was in the river and the wolves were eating it while it was in the river and the thing was moaning and screaming.

00:04:09.000 It couldn't go anywhere.

00:04:11.000 Bull elk.

00:04:12.000 Bull elk.

00:04:12.000 In the water.

00:04:15.000 Pretty horrible for us, but nature don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:04:20.000 Standard for them. 0.98

00:04:23.000 Have you encountered any wolves when you're out there?

00:04:25.000 Yeah, plenty of times.

00:04:26.000 The first time I went to Canada was Northwest Territories.

00:04:30.000 And there was a pack of wolves that they were chasing a caribou bull and they pretty much chased this thing to like a lava or a sweat, you know, like this is in winter.

00:04:39.000 So the caribou bull got really hot and they chased it into the freezing cold river and they sort of surrounded it in the river and then they just left it and they walked off, you know, and it wasn't that they were walking away from their kill.

00:04:51.000 They knew the job was done.

00:04:52.000 The wolves went back up high and they got onto these rocky benches and sat in the sun and were like drying out their cells and cooling down and drying out.

00:05:10.000 Wow.

00:05:14.000 Smart as hell, eh?

00:05:15.000 That's really crazy, that intelligent, that they know it's over.

00:05:20.000 They're like, okay, he's in the water.

00:05:21.000 He's in the water.

00:05:21.000 Wake and chill now.

00:05:22.000 Let's go dry off.

00:05:23.000 Yeah.

00:05:24.000 That is bananas.

00:05:25.000 Yeah, crazy, eh?

00:05:26.000 They're so wise.

00:05:27.000 People that I know that have seen them in the forest say they look at you a different way.

00:05:31.000 Yeah.

00:05:32.000 They look at you.

00:05:32.000 There's a way they look through you.

00:05:35.000 They look at you in a way like...

00:05:38.000 Almost like, they think that that's the reason why the myth of the werewolf exists, is that people that have these terrifying encounters with wolves, they swear that it's part human.

00:05:48.000 Yeah, like peeing into you.

00:05:50.000 Yeah, they're looking into you.

00:05:51.000 They're figuring you out, you know?

00:05:53.000 You've got to think what it would be like if you're just out there, you know, if you're lucky, live five years old, right? 0.99

00:05:59.000 You get this hard scrap of life out there chasing much larger animals than you, and you've got to kill them with your face. 0.99

00:06:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:06:07.000 Make it happen or die. 1.00

00:06:09.000 Yeah, crazy.

00:06:09.000 I had a pack of like 30 wolves this last trip that I was in BC and they kept coming around camp.

00:06:16.000 We had horses and that in camp and one day I ventured out to try and get onto them and get a better look at them and they just...

00:06:23.000 Without seeing me, they just kept this perfect range.

00:06:27.000 They'd howl back to me.

00:06:28.000 I was trying to call them in.

00:06:29.000 I was howling.

00:06:29.000 They'd howl back to me, and they'd just keep this perfect range.

00:06:32.000 You could tell the whole time they were communicating because there'd be another wolf or a couple of wolves that were a couple of miles in the other direction, and you could hear them moving the same pattern that the rest of these wolves were.

00:06:44.000 I got eyes on them from a distance.

00:06:46.000 They walked across an ice lake.

00:06:48.000 And other than that, I've never really seen them, but I guarantee you those wolves looked at me a bunch of times like they're just a different hunter, dude.

00:06:56.000 Yeah, they're probably just trying to figure out what they can do with you.

00:06:59.000 Yeah, such an eerie feeling too.

00:07:01.000 So it's like snow and it's like way in the backcountry of British Columbia.

00:07:06.000 And like I'm going up on these mountains, it's like big pine trees and everything like that and just every direction around you're howling, dude.

00:07:13.000 You'd hear them howling, you'd hear them do, it sounds like a bark, it's not, it's like this short howl.

00:07:19.000 And then every now and then you'd hear one howl different and you could tell that that was the alpha.

00:07:24.000 There's the sound that it was letting out, dude, it was like eerie.

00:07:28.000 Awesome place to be if you're in the nature, like...

00:07:31.000 Crazy place to be. 1.00

00:07:32.000 If you're not into nature, fucking you're a nightmare. 1.00

00:07:36.000 Like, yeah. 1.00

00:07:37.000 Well, the thing about them that's so fascinating about them is they're cooperative.

00:07:41.000 And they almost are – they know what to do.

00:07:44.000 Without even communicating, they know what to do.

00:07:47.000 They have plans and strategies.

00:07:49.000 They know how to box someone in and circle around.

00:07:52.000 Like if an animal is running in a certain direction, they get out in front of it.

00:07:55.000 They know what to do.

00:07:56.000 They know what to do, yeah.

00:07:57.000 So there end up being a set of caribou tracks that I end up getting onto and following, and every wolf track was a certain section apart from that, and they were funneling it into this big drainage.

00:08:09.000 I had to end up returning back to camp because it was getting dark, but I would have loved to have kept following and seeing if they actually...

00:08:15.000 Like, they're efficient.

00:08:16.000 Good chance they end up catching that caribou, you know, and killing it.

00:08:20.000 Yeah.

00:08:20.000 Well, it's really interesting seeing them adapt to, in 1994 when they got reintroduced to Yellowstone, seeing them re-adapt to the whole West and really expand and kind of take it over.

00:08:34.000 They dominated them.

00:08:35.000 That's crazy.

00:08:36.000 We were talking recently about Wyoming.

00:08:38.000 There was this one surplus kill.

00:08:41.000 These wolves had run across a bunch of cows, elk cows, and they'd kill like 18 of them.

00:08:48.000 They just killed them.

00:08:49.000 Just slaughtering.

00:08:50.000 Yeah, they caught them, I think, in high snow.

00:08:53.000 They couldn't get away.

00:08:54.000 And so these wolves just, one after another, just killed them all and didn't even eat them.

00:08:58.000 Good practice.

00:08:59.000 I think it's good practice and I also think while it's snowy out, they probably figured, look, we'll come back to this.

00:09:04.000 Yeah.

00:09:04.000 We'll leave it in a pile.

00:09:05.000 Oh, for sure.

00:09:06.000 Yeah.

00:09:07.000 It's that whole nothing ever goes to waste, I suppose.

00:09:09.000 If they don't eat it, then the grizzly eats it.

00:09:12.000 If the grizzly don't eat it, birds are eating it.

00:09:13.000 Badgers will eat it, something like that.

00:09:15.000 There's something eating it.

00:09:16.000 Yeah, that's a fact.

00:09:17.000 Yeah, an animal, like, I mean, even if a hunter hits an animal and doesn't recover it, that's not going to waste.

00:09:24.000 No, no, that's right.

00:09:25.000 Everything goes back to the earth.

00:09:26.000 I think we've spoken about this before, you know, like, the world's the ultimate predator.

00:09:30.000 Like, everything's fuel in the world, you know, the growth on the earth.

00:09:34.000 Yeah, it really is just a fascinating cycle when you're out there and you realize that it doesn't care about 4G or cities or cars.

00:09:44.000 I'm on LTE, bro. 1.00

00:09:46.000 4G is shit. 1.00

00:09:47.000 I remember when 4G was good. 1.00

00:09:49.000 3G. 4G LTE. Yeah, that's the one.

00:09:52.000 That's the good one.

00:09:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:56.000 When you're out there in the woods and you're doing these live streams or these Instagram stories, how are you hooking up when you're out there?

00:10:04.000 Some of them are saved.

00:10:06.000 So some of them are like, I think that last year when I did the solo hike for the Arnhem Land, like the Northern Territory of Australia, that was like a 13-day delay, I think, where every day I was still documenting it.

00:10:19.000 But it wasn't until that I got back into civilization that I was uploading it each day.

00:10:23.000 So when you do it on your phone, it just saves it on the phone?

00:10:26.000 I'm just filming it in the normal camera mode and then uploading it.

00:10:30.000 But a lot of places, especially here in the US, when you're up high, like usually I've got a decent reception.

00:10:37.000 I'll do a little bit of research, what's the best provider in the area, ATE, Verizon, whatever it is, and I'll end up getting a SIM card for that provider.

00:10:46.000 And then usually if I'm up high, it's not too bad, but it just depends where you are.

00:10:51.000 Backcountry, BC, nothing at all.

00:10:53.000 Oh yeah, there's nothing up there.

00:10:55.000 Yeah, Northern Territory Australia, like Arnhem Land, like nothing at all.

00:10:58.000 Yeah.

00:10:58.000 What about satellite?

00:11:00.000 You can't upload data really well from satellite.

00:11:04.000 Oh.

00:11:04.000 Yeah, that's the issue.

00:11:05.000 And if you could, you'd want to be freaking rich because it would charge you an arm and a leg.

00:11:10.000 Yeah.

00:11:11.000 Yeah, I saw these things at REI. You put them on your backpack.

00:11:14.000 It's like an extender.

00:11:16.000 Okay, yeah.

00:11:17.000 And it somehow or another extends your cell phone range?

00:11:19.000 I used to use them back in the olden days.

00:11:21.000 Are they legit?

00:11:23.000 The ones in Australia were.

00:11:24.000 They were 3G, like Telstra 3G. That's our provider back home.

00:11:29.000 They were pretty good, but you'd have like a big antenna hanging off your back, and I'm not that into it.

00:11:33.000 It wasn't that bad.

00:11:34.000 It was like the size of this caveman natural can.

00:11:37.000 It was pretty small.

00:11:40.000 It would just clip on, and I don't remember exactly the mechanism behind it.

00:11:45.000 That'd be handy, yeah.

00:11:46.000 If I'm just trying to communicate with home, I've got like a Garmin inReach sort of thing, and you do text off your phone because it actually goes into your phone, but as far as data goes, it's too slow to do something like InstaStories.

00:11:59.000 Right, right.

00:12:00.000 Well, one day.

00:12:01.000 Wasn't it Mark Zuckerberg?

00:12:04.000 Wasn't he trying to put satellites in space to make internet for the whole world?

00:12:09.000 Yeah.

00:12:10.000 It feels like we need it.

00:12:11.000 Stop doing that at all.

00:12:12.000 They stopped doing that?

00:12:13.000 Yeah.

00:12:14.000 I know for sure one of them they had in one of the Tesla rockets that went up that exploded.

00:12:21.000 Oh, really?

00:12:21.000 Remember one that didn't make it or something like that?

00:12:23.000 Yeah, SpaceX.

00:12:24.000 And they had stuff in that one, I believe.

00:12:26.000 I don't think that's ruined it, but it probably put a big halt on the Yeah, that makes sense.

00:12:32.000 I always think how you can be so much unorganized now, like with work and stuff, because of where phones and that are.

00:12:38.000 But I remember in the construction industry, that morning that you left to work, you had to be highly friggin' organized, because you had to go back to a payphone if you wanted to call someone.

00:12:48.000 No one wanted to do that, especially from a work site. 0.96

00:12:53.000 I just remember when emails come on the phone, I was like, holy shit, I can save some time now.

00:12:58.000 That was a massive breakthrough for business, being able to do that.

00:13:02.000 But it's also nice to step away from that every now and then.

00:13:06.000 Some hunts...

00:13:07.000 I'm really looking forward to going to because there isn't any reception. 0.99

00:13:11.000 You get away from emails, business work, phone calls, all the shit. 0.97

00:13:15.000 It's just you and nature. 0.97

00:13:17.000 It's sort of nice to be like that.

00:13:19.000 Even in life, I think we're all spending too much time on our phones, too much time being connected.

00:13:25.000 Two of my friends, Ari Shafir and Bert Kreischer, hired companies to take over their social media.

00:13:32.000 They don't look at their social media at all.

00:13:34.000 What they do is they'll post something by sending it to them.

00:13:37.000 Like, say if he has a tour coming up, like, hey, you know, I'm going to be in Sacramento, blah, blah, blah.

00:13:43.000 He sends it to them.

00:13:44.000 They take that.

00:13:45.000 They put it up.

00:13:46.000 He doesn't see it at all.

00:13:47.000 He doesn't pay attention to a second of it.

00:13:49.000 That sort of sounds nice.

00:13:51.000 Yeah, I'm thinking it does.

00:13:53.000 You know, I've been better at it over the last, like, couple months than I ever have before by just leaving the phone alone and not touching it and just hanging out.

00:14:03.000 Yeah, I'll do certain posts where I don't even look back on it.

00:14:06.000 It's just like, cool, post it, the content's out there.

00:14:09.000 If people want to look at it, they can look at it.

00:14:10.000 If they don't want to look at it, change the channel, go and look at something different.

00:14:13.000 But then every now and then there's one that I like to look at the engagement with and stuff like that, which is good. 0.99

00:14:20.000 But you know, there's always like, there's 10% fuckwits out there that are kind of... 0.99

00:14:24.000 It's true. 0.99

00:14:24.000 There's like 10%. 0.99

00:14:25.000 I've been looking at it.

00:14:27.000 I don't even think it's that high.

00:14:28.000 How many followers you got?

00:14:30.000 How many people would tune into an Instagram post of yours each day?

00:14:34.000 I don't know.

00:14:35.000 It's just a guess.

00:14:36.000 A couple of hundred thousand at least.

00:14:38.000 I have 5.5 million Instagram followers.

00:14:42.000 Okay.

00:14:43.000 So say 1% of them wakes up on the wrong side of the bed. 0.99

00:14:46.000 Just 1% wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and wants to be fucking mouthy that morning. 0.99

00:14:50.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:14:50.000 That's a lot of people. 0.99

00:14:51.000 And then your post is the first post I see. 0.99

00:14:54.000 You're going to get some shit there. 0.99

00:14:55.000 And we're all ignorant if we think that everyone's just going to get along. 1.00

00:14:59.000 That's never going to fucking happen, is it? 0.97

00:15:01.000 And it's never happened. 0.95

00:15:03.000 But I feel like it's getting worse.

00:15:05.000 Really?

00:15:06.000 Yeah, because you can't punch someone in the face anymore.

00:15:10.000 Like, it's true.

00:15:11.000 If someone gets mouthy, especially in Australia, it was only going back so many years ago, if someone gets mouthy, you confront them, and if they want to go at it, let's go at it.

00:15:20.000 I'll get in trouble if I do that now.

00:15:22.000 You know, you're the one that gets in trouble.

00:15:24.000 Even though they've been a smartass, now you're the one that gets in trouble.

00:15:27.000 So you can't do that, and people know that.

00:15:29.000 So they get mouthier. 1.00

00:15:30.000 There's no repercussions for calling someone a fucking cunt on Instagram. 1.00

00:15:34.000 That's true. 1.00

00:15:35.000 Like, I'm not in favour of people running around punching people, but I do like the way it turns out.

00:15:41.000 I do too. 1.00

00:15:42.000 People realise that you can't just be an asshole. 0.99

00:15:45.000 Imagine when you were in school, and say you don't get along with someone, and they get mouthy, and then you have a fight. 0.99

00:15:51.000 You usually ended up friends after it.

00:15:53.000 A lot of times.

00:15:54.000 A lot of the times you ended up friends over or mass beef.

00:15:57.000 Yeah.

00:15:57.000 But a lot of the times it was just sorted out then and it was done.

00:16:01.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:16:01.000 And then other people knew not to talk shit. 0.99

00:16:04.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:16:05.000 Yeah, well, it's a weird thing like when you see UFC fights where guys fucking hate each other and they beat the shit out of each other. 0.98

00:16:11.000 And then afterwards they fucking hug. 0.96

00:16:12.000 And then afterwards they're hugging. 0.99

00:16:13.000 Yeah, yeah, I know.

00:16:14.000 It's a weird thing with men.

00:16:15.000 Yeah.

00:16:16.000 Like sometimes you just need to get it out of your system. 1.00

00:16:18.000 Yeah, I think it's fucking, it's primal. 0.99

00:16:21.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:16:21.000 It's like human nature. 1.00

00:16:23.000 It's definitely too easy to be shitty to people. 0.91

00:16:25.000 It's too easy. 0.90

00:16:26.000 Yeah.

00:16:28.000 It's also so new.

00:16:30.000 The other thing is, it's so new.

00:16:31.000 I mean, any kind of internet interaction is only 20 years old.

00:16:36.000 That's it.

00:16:37.000 Basically, 24 years.

00:16:39.000 I think I was online in 94, and it was like a 56k modem. 0.99

00:16:44.000 It was slow as shit. 0.96

00:16:45.000 It might not have been 56k, it might have been 14.4. 0.99

00:16:49.000 And it was, you know, where you would use it through the phone line and go... 0.99

00:16:53.000 Yeah, it was shit-ass, but we thought it was great back then. 0.99

00:16:58.000 We're like, this is amazing. 0.99

00:16:58.000 We thought it was the most incredible thing. 0.99

00:17:00.000 I remember I showed up to news radio one day, the sitcom that I was on, and I couldn't wait to tell these people about how I got online last night.

00:17:08.000 I was downloading all these things and printing them.

00:17:12.000 I was printing up.

00:17:13.000 It was all about UFOs.

00:17:15.000 I was really into UFOs back then.

00:17:16.000 And I was reading all these files about UFOs, like government reports about UFOs.

00:17:22.000 I'd somehow or another found some... 0.94

00:17:25.000 I don't know what the fuck it was, a message board or something. 0.79

00:17:30.000 And I was so obsessed. 0.98

00:17:32.000 Such a big deal.

00:17:33.000 It was such a big deal.

00:17:34.000 It would take so long to download one piece of paper.

00:17:37.000 Like one piece of paper that was filled with text would take like 30 seconds to download.

00:17:42.000 Yeah.

00:17:43.000 Crazy.

00:17:44.000 That's crazy. 1.00

00:17:45.000 And now we're here and I'm like, if I've got three G4 bars, I'm like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:17:48.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00

00:17:49.000 You're mad.

00:17:49.000 Yeah.

00:17:50.000 It's like, this is so slow.

00:17:51.000 Well, I was telling your kids about the virtual reality setup that we have back there.

00:17:57.000 That disturbs me.

00:17:59.000 That disturbs me.

00:18:00.000 It doesn't disturb me that it's bad for you or anything like that.

00:18:04.000 It's so fun, and it's so immersive, and I know where it's going.

00:18:09.000 I'm like, it's going to keep getting better and better.

00:18:11.000 Just like it was 30 seconds to download just a simple piece of paper filled with text.

00:18:17.000 You know, 20 years ago, 20 years from now, that is going to look like crayons.

00:18:22.000 Oh, totally.

00:18:22.000 But that is, you've got to put that thing on, you're going to freak out.

00:18:25.000 There's some archery games, too.

00:18:26.000 Is there?

00:18:27.000 Yeah, yeah, there's a bunch of them.

00:18:28.000 It's pretty cool.

00:18:29.000 You actually have, it's called haptic feedback.

00:18:32.000 So as you draw the bow back, you actually feel like a vibration in your hand, like...

00:18:37.000 Really?

00:18:38.000 Yep.

00:18:39.000 And then you let go like that.

00:18:40.000 Tesla suit.

00:18:41.000 Jesus Christ, Tesla.

00:18:43.000 Wow.

00:18:44.000 It's not the same company.

00:18:45.000 What?

00:18:45.000 They're just calling it that.

00:18:46.000 Fuck you. 1.00

00:18:47.000 As far as I know. 1.00

00:18:47.000 Fuck you, other company. 1.00

00:18:49.000 Tesla suit unveiled at CES 2019. Takes virtual reality to new heights. 1.00

00:18:54.000 Yeah, they're going to have haptic feedback suits.

00:18:56.000 Is that what it is?

00:18:57.000 Yeah.

00:18:57.000 Yeah, there's like 68 sensors in there and you can supposedly feel like up to rain, I guess.

00:19:03.000 So you get shot and you feel where it cracks. 1.00

00:19:06.000 Girls are going to put it right on their pussy and they're just going to keep shooting themselves. 1.00

00:19:12.000 You could have come home. 1.00

00:19:14.000 Your girl's going to have a haptic feedback suit on and one of them artificial machine guns. 1.00

00:19:19.000 There you go.

00:19:20.000 It's going to wreck reality.

00:19:21.000 There's a video of a girl doing it.

00:19:23.000 Did she get shocked?

00:19:26.000 No, but there's a couple different things.

00:19:28.000 This is just a test, but she takes a hard front kick to the chest here. 1.00

00:19:31.000 What?

00:19:31.000 Yeah.

00:19:31.000 I mean, I don't know how it felt to her.

00:19:34.000 Okay, let's see hard front kick to the chest. 1.00

00:19:37.000 Hard explosion?

00:19:38.000 Right back here, actually.

00:19:39.000 I did it earlier.

00:19:40.000 I was looking around.

00:19:45.000 It's not that hard.

00:19:46.000 It's not your kick.

00:19:47.000 It wasn't that hard, but I did feel it right here.

00:19:50.000 Hard explosion.

00:19:51.000 Oh, do I really want to try?

00:19:53.000 Yes, I do.

00:19:56.000 I just did that to myself!

00:20:01.000 Well, there's a boxing game that you can play.

00:20:03.000 It's really cool.

00:20:04.000 And the boxing game, you see this guy in front of you, like a big 3D cartoon, but really cool graphics.

00:20:12.000 And when he punches you, the whole screen goes bright.

00:20:15.000 Like you got your bell rolling. 1.00

00:20:17.000 Oh, damn. 1.00

00:20:17.000 It makes you nervous. 1.00

00:20:19.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:19.000 Like when I'm sparring with him and he punches me, I'm like, oh, jeez, I've got to get my hands up.

00:20:23.000 I've got to move.

00:20:24.000 It feels real.

00:20:25.000 That's cool.

00:20:25.000 And you get exhausted because you're moving around, you're punching.

00:20:30.000 It's harder, believe it or not, to punch air than it is to punch something.

00:20:34.000 Oh, definitely, yeah.

00:20:35.000 Yeah, because you get tired.

00:20:37.000 You get tired easier.

00:20:38.000 So you're throwing your hands at this thing and then it goes down.

00:20:42.000 You're like, ah, ah.

00:20:44.000 When it gets back up, your feet hurt from moving around, squeaking around on the floor.

00:20:48.000 Unreal.

00:20:48.000 It's really interesting.

00:20:49.000 Yeah.

00:20:49.000 So there's for sure going to be a weird world for our kids.

00:20:55.000 When they get to be our age, the world is going to be unrecognizable.

00:21:00.000 Yeah, I feel like it's taken the edge off things, too.

00:21:03.000 It has.

00:21:04.000 It really takes the edge off things.

00:21:06.000 Like, you haven't actually done that.

00:21:07.000 Like, you haven't actually climbed Everest.

00:21:09.000 But I sort of have.

00:21:09.000 I did it in a virtual reality game, and it was tough.

00:21:12.000 Not really, though.

00:21:12.000 Not really, though, you know.

00:21:13.000 You didn't have...

00:21:14.000 Your life wasn't at stake.

00:21:15.000 Yeah, exactly, yeah.

00:21:16.000 I've been actually talking about this on stage, that I'm worried about this.

00:21:20.000 I'm worried about people being able to have experiences that they didn't earn.

00:21:25.000 Mm-hmm.

00:21:26.000 If there's a virtual reality game where you play it and all of a sudden you're in a NASCAR and you're winning some gigantic race, you're in the driver's seat and you're shifting the gears and it feels like you're indiscernible from feeling like you're winning a race.

00:21:44.000 Yeah.

00:21:45.000 That's going to happen.

00:21:46.000 They're going to be able to do all these different things.

00:21:48.000 It's going to make people more and more dependent on technology and weaker and weaker physically.

00:21:54.000 Weaker and weaker.

00:21:55.000 That's how I feel too.

00:21:57.000 It's like going to the gym and working out and getting all these muscles but then moving away from any manual labor.

00:22:05.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:22:07.000 I'm not saying don't be fit, but I'm saying if you're building them muscles, fucking use them. 0.98

00:22:13.000 That is true. 0.97

00:22:13.000 There's a lot of guys that go to the gym and they'll work out hard for 45 minutes, an hour at a gym, but make them work a construction site. 0.97

00:22:20.000 They carry lumber all day. 0.98

00:22:23.000 They'll be fucking complaining, looking for protein shakes. 1.00

00:22:26.000 Yeah, burning out. 1.00

00:22:28.000 You know, the real problem is going to be sex. 0.97

00:22:31.000 Yeah.

00:22:32.000 That's the real problem. 0.99

00:22:33.000 You're going to be able to put those things on and have sex with anybody you want? 0.98

00:22:35.000 Like anybody. 0.99

00:22:36.000 Scarlett Johansson. 0.99

00:22:37.000 That's fucking weird. 0.98

00:22:38.000 So they're already doing these things where they face swap with computers. 0.99

00:22:42.000 So they take beautiful actresses and they put their face on porn stars' bodies. 0.99

00:22:46.000 And it's hard to tell, man. 0.99

00:22:48.000 I mean, it looks like a sex tape with a famous actress. 0.94

00:22:54.000 That's disturbing. 0.90

00:22:55.000 It is disturbing.

00:22:56.000 I wonder if there's a Joe Rogan one.

00:22:57.000 I'm sure there is.

00:22:59.000 There is now, because we mentioned it.

00:23:01.000 Yeah, we talked about it, and it's probably the gayest thing that's ever lived. 1.00

00:23:03.000 But I think the real worry is that not just see it, but do it.

00:23:09.000 Yeah.

00:23:09.000 Like the Matrix, you're going to be able to put this on, and you're going to be able to...

00:23:13.000 Like this haptic feedback suit, that's just one step.

00:23:17.000 Eventually, they're going to figure out a way to make your body feel it.

00:23:21.000 And then you're going to... 0.94

00:23:22.000 You're going to be able to have sex with people. 0.99

00:23:24.000 Done. 0.99

00:23:25.000 Yeah.

00:23:25.000 Like anybody you want.

00:23:26.000 You're never going to have to be nice to people again.

00:23:28.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:23:29.000 Because everybody's going to fuck you. 1.00

00:23:31.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00

00:23:32.000 My point was kind of on stage is that one of the reasons why it's hard to have sex with people.

00:23:40.000 You have to plan it out.

00:23:42.000 I mean, it's not that hard, but...

00:23:43.000 It's, you know, you have to agree that you like each other.

00:23:47.000 You know, you have to hope that she likes you and you like her or whatever.

00:23:51.000 And you develop your personality to get people to like you more.

00:23:57.000 That way it's more likely.

00:23:58.000 You be a nicer person, you get rewarded for that, you realize, oh, it's nice to be a nice person, and then it actually makes you a nicer person.

00:24:04.000 If you don't have to do that...

00:24:05.000 Yeah.

00:24:06.000 In the future, we're going to be... 0.99

00:24:07.000 People are dressing a certain way and trying to keep hygienic and be nice, and then, yeah, everyone just turns into a fucking slob because they're going to sleep with some pretty actress anyway. 0.97

00:24:16.000 Oh, yeah, and in that virtual reality, they're going to look like Ryan Reynolds anyway. 0.99

00:24:20.000 They're going to have a full six-pack and look beautiful.

00:24:23.000 And then other people are going to meet you in there.

00:24:25.000 They're also going to be... 0.90

00:24:27.000 I mean, you're going to have some disgusting human beings, and then in that world, they're going to be perfect. 0.67

00:24:31.000 Yeah, but then there'll be people like me that I'm like, nah, I'm traditional. 0.85

00:24:34.000 Yeah.

00:24:35.000 I sleep with real people.

00:24:36.000 Well, my wife.

00:24:37.000 Real humans.

00:24:38.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:24:38.000 That's going to be old school.

00:24:39.000 That's going to be like riding a bike.

00:24:41.000 Yeah.

00:24:41.000 Like, what are you doing?

00:24:42.000 What's he doing?

00:24:42.000 Will you walk everywhere?

00:24:45.000 It's crazy.

00:24:46.000 I posted a video, actually, which is like 700 images stacked together out at Joshua Tree.

00:24:54.000 Oh, I saw that.

00:24:55.000 Yeah, and it's like the Milky Way cruising past, but then there's just the air traffic, dude, is insane.

00:25:00.000 It's just like constant.

00:25:02.000 I'm like, anyone looking in...

00:25:05.000 This must already look like the future.

00:25:07.000 You know, it must look so futuristic already.

00:25:09.000 And I'm like, well, it sort of is.

00:25:12.000 Maybe this, like we're living in it now.

00:25:13.000 Here it is.

00:25:14.000 Yeah.

00:25:15.000 Look at the air traffic.

00:25:16.000 It peaks at about this point here.

00:25:18.000 Look at them all just back and forth.

00:25:20.000 And that's all air traffic?

00:25:21.000 None of that is asteroids?

00:25:23.000 Nope.

00:25:23.000 Every bit of that's air traffic.

00:25:25.000 Wow, that's such an amazing image, man.

00:25:27.000 It wasn't until the camera stopped early hours of the morning that there was that.

00:25:30.000 And for anybody, this is adam.greentree on Instagram.

00:25:33.000 And you still have your photography page?

00:25:35.000 Yeah, I do.

00:25:35.000 First man image?

00:25:36.000 Yeah, first man image.

00:25:37.000 First dot man image.

00:25:38.000 And these are some amazing photos.

00:25:42.000 That's incredible.

00:25:44.000 That's about 300 photos stacked together, so you actually get a star trail.

00:25:48.000 That's in Australia, so that's the southern star.

00:25:51.000 You know, that middle point, so that's like the south.

00:25:55.000 And then if you go back to Adam.Greentree, Jamie, that one...

00:26:05.000 If you go back to like that star one, that's the North Star.

00:26:10.000 So that was pretty cool.

00:26:12.000 So one's taken from Australia where you've got the Southern Star, which is like, you know, the turning point.

00:26:17.000 And then this is from America, like Joshua Tree there, California.

00:26:20.000 And that's like the Northern Star.

00:26:21.000 I think Joshua Tree is closed down right now.

00:26:24.000 Because of the...

00:26:25.000 I don't...

00:26:25.000 People are like, did the federal shutdown affect you at all?

00:26:29.000 I'm like, no, I didn't even know about it until you mentioned it just then.

00:26:32.000 Yeah, it's going to be a while, too.

00:26:35.000 Really?

00:26:36.000 Yeah, I think...

00:26:36.000 Didn't they shut down Joshua Tree?

00:26:38.000 Because people were going in and shutting...

00:26:40.000 They were chopping trees down.

00:26:41.000 It wasn't just because of the trash.

00:26:43.000 It started because of the trash, and then over the last week, people were actually going in and chopping some trees down. 1.00

00:26:48.000 Super assholes. 1.00

00:26:49.000 Yeah, right. 0.99

00:26:50.000 So there was signs up that it was closed, and I wasn't actually camping Joshua Tree itself.

00:26:55.000 I was out of the tourist section, just off the side of the road where I could.

00:26:59.000 But... 0.99

00:27:01.000 Someone was saying about, you know, that the government or whatever, the federal government, you know, with all the trash, but the federal government's not leaving the fucking trash there. 0.99

00:27:10.000 That's people. 0.98

00:27:12.000 Signature trees are among the shutdown victims.

00:27:14.000 Wow.

00:27:15.000 There's only a few trees in Joshua Tree.

00:27:18.000 And these people are chopping them down just to be dicks because they know there's no one there?

00:27:21.000 I'm pretty sure, yeah. 0.99

00:27:22.000 They're probably trying to collect something from it. 1.00

00:27:25.000 They're just probably trying to be assholes. 1.00

00:27:27.000 God damn it. 1.00

00:27:29.000 And Joshua Tree is a massive place, too. 0.99

00:27:32.000 It says there it's larger than Rhode Island.

00:27:35.000 Yeah, it's beautiful once you get out there.

00:27:37.000 That's a real shame.

00:27:38.000 You know, this is the thing about people that don't spend much time in the wilderness and don't appreciate the wilderness.

00:27:44.000 They don't...

00:27:44.000 Well, they're not connected to it.

00:27:46.000 They don't understand.

00:27:47.000 So I heard a bunch of people in the city because, you know, I spent the last five, six days here in LA, you know, and the bad weather's come in.

00:27:52.000 They're like, oh, this is disgusting weather. 0.99

00:27:54.000 And I'm like, fuck no. 0.99

00:27:55.000 The bush is loving this. 1.00

00:27:57.000 Yeah.

00:27:58.000 The Earth's loving this.

00:27:59.000 You just need rain, especially after all these horrible fires that you had.

00:28:03.000 Like, rain's a good thing.

00:28:04.000 They're just so complaining.

00:28:06.000 Yeah.

00:28:06.000 It rains out here literally 10 days a year.

00:28:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:09.000 10 days a year is normal.

00:28:11.000 Yeah.

00:28:11.000 I mean, I might be exaggerating, but slightly.

00:28:15.000 Yeah.

00:28:15.000 Slightly.

00:28:16.000 Yeah.

00:28:16.000 Like, I don't imagine it rains more than 50 days a year out here.

00:28:20.000 Yeah, crazy.

00:28:21.000 I think that's, no.

00:28:22.000 That's not exaggerated, yeah.

00:28:22.000 That's not exaggerating, right?

00:28:24.000 Ten's probably about right, yeah, I feel like.

00:28:25.000 Nah.

00:28:26.000 Since I've lived here, this might be a little more of the drought time, but...

00:28:29.000 Let's take a guess.

00:28:29.000 How many days a year on average does it run in L.A.? I'm going to say 25. 25 days a year.

00:28:35.000 16. 16. I bet you're right.

00:28:37.000 That's two per month.

00:28:38.000 That's a lot.

00:28:39.000 Yeah, but sometimes it's a bunch together.

00:28:41.000 Like, this is like seven already so far in the last week and a half.

00:28:45.000 Let's bet on it.

00:28:46.000 I'll bet you that Kanye doll. 1.00

00:28:47.000 No fucking way, bro. 1.00

00:28:49.000 Oh, shout out to... 1.00

00:28:53.000 Shout out to Plasticel. 0.96

00:28:54.000 That's cool. 0.91

00:28:55.000 For this dope-ass Kanye West doll. 0.83

00:28:57.000 It says rain days is 35. Damn! 1.00

00:29:01.000 35? 1.00

00:29:01.000 Wow. 1.00

00:29:02.000 You're closer.

00:29:03.000 You can keep Kanye.

00:29:03.000 I don't know.

00:29:04.000 This is tough to get.

00:29:07.000 They should have like an average.

00:29:09.000 284 sunny days per year.

00:29:11.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:29:12.000 39 inches per year.

00:29:14.000 It's tough to figure that out.

00:29:16.000 39 inches per year is not a lot, though.

00:29:18.000 So, but the problem is, it's California, right? 0.99

00:29:21.000 It's like, Northern California fucking rains every day. 0.96

00:29:24.000 Like, if you go, like, near the Redwood Forest, that's a rainforest out there. 0.98

00:29:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:28.000 It rains constantly.

00:29:30.000 We spent some time up in Medicino.

00:29:33.000 It's beautiful, man.

00:29:34.000 Nice.

00:29:34.000 Right by the ocean.

00:29:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:29:35.000 Fucking trees are so big, they're stupid. 1.00

00:29:38.000 Yeah, beautiful. 1.00

00:29:38.000 Doesn't even make sense to get trees as big as this room. 1.00

00:29:40.000 Yeah.

00:29:40.000 You're standing there going, how old is this?

00:29:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:42.000 They're like, oh, this is a 2,000-year-old tree.

00:29:44.000 Yeah.

00:29:44.000 You're in a desert stretch.

00:29:46.000 Yeah.

00:29:47.000 A thousand-year-old tree is like a normal tree up there.

00:29:50.000 I've noticed around the city there's a lot of Australian natives, like gum trees and eucalyptus and stuff like that.

00:29:55.000 Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of that.

00:29:56.000 They must have been imported at some point and just realized they do well in the harsh conditions.

00:30:01.000 Well, you know, the palm trees is sort of the Hollywood signature tree. 0.99

00:30:04.000 That shit's from Hawaii. 1.00

00:30:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:30:07.000 But they look good.

00:30:08.000 But it's just so funny that, like, that's sort of indicative of what California is.

00:30:13.000 Like, we don't have a real, you know.

00:30:16.000 It's just the diversity.

00:30:17.000 I mean, everything comes from somewhere else here.

00:30:19.000 There's no, like, native Los Angeles people, you meet one of those and you're like, whoa.

00:30:25.000 Like, you're a test tube baby or something.

00:30:26.000 Yeah, yeah, where you're from, yeah. 1.00

00:30:28.000 Fucking Disneyland, dude. 1.00

00:30:30.000 I was going to Disneyland. 1.00

00:30:31.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:30:32.000 My dad is goofy. 1.00

00:30:33.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:30:34.000 What's it like wandering around there?

00:30:35.000 That's hectic.

00:30:37.000 So especially like, because everything I do is like wilderness and out.

00:30:40.000 Like I adapt fine.

00:30:41.000 Like that's not an issue, but I don't like it.

00:30:43.000 Just because I adapt doesn't mean I like it.

00:30:46.000 But Disney's a different place. 0.93

00:30:48.000 Like I went in there yesterday, like fucking dressed as a man, you know, jeans on, a flannelette shirt, you know, and a camo cap and Walking around and then the kids talk me into going to that... 0.97

00:30:59.000 What's the... 0.99

00:31:00.000 Splash Mountain.

00:31:02.000 And my eldest is like, sit in the front, Dad.

00:31:04.000 It's the place you won't get so wet in the front.

00:31:07.000 And I'm like, okay, cool.

00:31:07.000 And I jumped in the front and we come down.

00:31:09.000 And I'm like, I'm fucking yelling so my mouth is open, dude. 0.99

00:31:13.000 I nearly fucking drowned. 0.99

00:31:15.000 I swallowed that much water. 1.00

00:31:17.000 I'm like, fuck, I've got AIDS for sure. 1.00

00:31:18.000 This is fucked. 1.00

00:31:20.000 So a whole gollop went in my mouth, fucking soaked me, drenched me. 1.00

00:31:24.000 And then it was cold, dude. 0.99

00:31:26.000 It'd come over cold. 0.99

00:31:27.000 So I've walked around Disney for the morning thinking, like, look at these fucking Froot Loops and the way they're dressed and all their Disney clothes. 1.00

00:31:33.000 The only clothes you can buy in there is fucking Disney clothes. 0.99

00:31:36.000 I'm wearing, it was pajama pants with fucking Mickey Mouse's head all over them. 1.00

00:31:41.000 This shirt that's got Disney fucking written all over it. 1.00

00:31:46.000 Fucking walking around there like I fitted perfectly in after that. 1.00

00:31:50.000 And it's like fucking... 1.00

00:31:51.000 I actually look like fucking... 1.00

00:31:53.000 Who's the owner of Disney? 1.00

00:31:54.000 Walt Disney.

00:31:55.000 It fucking shot his load all over me, dude. 1.00

00:31:57.000 There was fucking Mickey Mouse and shit all over me. 1.00

00:32:00.000 Well, we were there the other day. 0.99

00:32:01.000 They have a warming station set up outside of Splash Mountain where you can step into this...

00:32:07.000 It looks like a phone booth and you get warmed up.

00:32:09.000 But it costs money.

00:32:11.000 Yeah, everything costs money at Disney.

00:32:12.000 Yeah, but that, I'm like, Jesus Christ, you can't get people wet and then charge them to dry off. 0.99

00:32:17.000 That's fucking brutal. 0.99

00:32:18.000 Yeah, I think it's all fucking a bit of a scam. 0.99

00:32:22.000 It is, but let me tell you something. 0.96

00:32:24.000 Oh, it's an amazing place.

00:32:25.000 Kids love it.

00:32:26.000 Oh, 100%.

00:32:27.000 My kids went mental on those rides.

00:32:29.000 Have you been to Florida yet?

00:32:30.000 Yeah, six years ago I went to Florida, yeah.

00:32:32.000 When you go to Florida again, you've got to go to Disney World.

00:32:36.000 Disney World, yeah.

00:32:36.000 Disney World is way better than Disney World.

00:32:38.000 Yeah, I think we went there.

00:32:40.000 We ended up going there, yeah.

00:32:41.000 I would say it's way better, because Disneyland's pretty amazing, but Disney World has the best ride of all time.

00:32:46.000 They have this Avatar ride.

00:32:48.000 What is it called?

00:32:49.000 Flights of Passage?

00:32:51.000 Flights of Passage.

00:32:52.000 Right.

00:32:52.000 And you ride one of them Avatar Dragons.

00:32:55.000 It's all virtual reality.

00:32:56.000 Yeah.

00:32:56.000 You put these goggles on and you climb on this thing that looks like a motorcycle and it straps you in place and what you're riding is one of them giant dragons from Avatar.

00:33:05.000 It's fucking incredible, dude. 0.93

00:33:07.000 It's the best ride of all time. 0.99

00:33:10.000 Really? 1.00

00:33:10.000 I just had a bunch of friends there and I get text messages back from them like, holy fucking shit. 1.00

00:33:15.000 I'm like, yeah. 0.99

00:33:16.000 No joke.

00:33:18.000 Yeah, you feel the breeze.

00:33:19.000 You smell things there.

00:33:21.000 You see these animals you're flying over.

00:33:23.000 It's wild.

00:33:24.000 It's all HD. Three-dimensional.

00:33:28.000 Amazing. 0.99

00:33:29.000 Goddamn, it's good. 1.00

00:33:30.000 Yeah, now I'll stick to hunting and camping and shit. 1.00

00:33:33.000 Well, at the end of the day, Steve Rinell said it best. 0.98

00:33:37.000 This is a quote that he said that I think he was talking about someone else told him this, that there's two different kinds of fun.

00:33:44.000 This fun that you have while it's happening, like you ride the roller coaster, it's fun.

00:33:49.000 But you don't look back on that five years from now and go, that was amazing.

00:33:54.000 But then there's things that suck while you're doing them, like your 28-day trip in the Rocky Mountains, pointing at a gun that you don't even know has a jammed bullet in it, and a grizzly is charging at you.

00:34:07.000 Like, that will be fun for the rest of your life.

00:34:10.000 Oh, totally, yeah.

00:34:11.000 You'll feel that when you bring it back, when you talk about it.

00:34:14.000 Yeah, there's like shallow fun.

00:34:16.000 Some things are just shallow, but they're cool to do.

00:34:18.000 There's nothing wrong with doing them.

00:34:20.000 But they're just not real meaningful.

00:34:23.000 Exactly. 0.98

00:34:24.000 And then there's shit that you do that's just really meaningful. 0.99

00:34:26.000 It builds character. 1.00

00:34:27.000 It's something that you always look back on, memories and shit. 0.83

00:34:30.000 But there's feelings that you get when you come back, too, where you appreciate things. 0.95

00:34:34.000 Like, Callan and I did this trip with Rinella in Prince of Wales, and we were up there for...

00:34:42.000 We were supposed to be up there I think for seven days but on the sixth day a storm was coming in and so we wound up bailing early because I had a gig in two days and otherwise I would have been stuck up there like you get stuck it rained every fucking day and it didn't just rain every day it rained all day every day there was no there was like if you had a break it was a five-minute break yeah like with oh look the Sun and then so inside the the tent I put my headlamp on and there was... 0.97

00:35:12.000 See, this is what fucks you up. 0.93

00:35:14.000 You think, well, when I'm inside the tent, I'll be dry. 0.98

00:35:18.000 No.

00:35:18.000 No, there's no dry because the air's wet.

00:35:21.000 And when I turned my headlamp on, I realized the entire inside of the tent was moisture particles.

00:35:27.000 Yeah.

00:35:27.000 Floating around the air.

00:35:28.000 And I was like, fuck me. 1.00

00:35:30.000 I'm in this wet down bag and I'm looking around. 1.00

00:35:33.000 I'm like, you're never going to get dry, bro.

00:35:34.000 It's okay.

00:35:36.000 But, you know, you accept it.

00:35:38.000 But then when we came home after the six days and I took a shower and then we were in the car and it was sunny out.

00:35:48.000 And I was like, God, this is the best I've ever felt.

00:35:50.000 I'm so happy.

00:35:52.000 I don't think you get that happy unless you feel miserable first.

00:35:56.000 No, that's right. 0.98

00:35:56.000 So you know the misery, and then so you know the little things that we take for granted in life every day are like, fucking wow. 0.98

00:36:02.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:36:03.000 Yeah, Kim did this hike in Montana with me and it's just like, it's like 14 miles and there's just like not a flat bit of ground on it.

00:36:11.000 It's just continually going up and it's in the snow and she had an issue with her leg.

00:36:16.000 And anyway, we got up the top and we set up camp and it's just been miserable. 0.98

00:36:20.000 But even a fire there, you know, like we lit the fire and she's fucking smiling. 0.93

00:36:24.000 She's loving it, you know, and then we come back to the trailer. 0.96

00:36:28.000 Like we're not even in a house here.

00:36:29.000 We're just traveling around in like a Winnebago trailer.

00:36:31.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:36:32.000 And we get back to the trailer and you get to flick a light on and turn the tap on and it's hot water and she's just like, fuck yeah, this is awesome. 1.00

00:36:40.000 You know, but a week goes by and then you start taking that shit for granted again. 0.99

00:36:43.000 Some people do anyway, you know. 1.00

00:36:45.000 Oh yeah.

00:36:46.000 Yeah, you certainly can.

00:36:47.000 But I think a guy like you, you're in the wilderness so often that, you know, it's almost like you have a permanent appreciation for both things.

00:36:54.000 Yeah, totally.

00:36:55.000 Yeah.

00:36:56.000 I actually miss it.

00:36:57.000 I actually don't like this side of life as much as that side of life.

00:37:01.000 Yeah, I see it.

00:37:02.000 I get it.

00:37:03.000 I like both.

00:37:04.000 Obviously, I need...

00:37:06.000 I mean, I make a living in cities.

00:37:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:08.000 Oh, for sure.

00:37:09.000 Yeah, that's what I do.

00:37:11.000 But it's nice to go out and dabble in it, live in it and come back out of it, 100%.

00:37:16.000 Oh, man.

00:37:16.000 I love it.

00:37:18.000 The few hunting trips that I get to do a year, when I'm out in the actual wilderness, wilderness, like when we're in the mountains of Utah elk hunting, I just like sitting down sometimes.

00:37:28.000 Just sit down and take it all in for a couple minutes.

00:37:32.000 I mean, even though you're in the middle of it and you're running around looking for elk and you hear them, I just like...

00:37:37.000 Oh, it's the best.

00:37:38.000 You start knowing yourself, you know, and you start knowing the wilderness and the real world.

00:37:44.000 You know, it's like...

00:37:45.000 Because you always say...

00:37:46.000 You said on one of the podcasts, I don't know if it was one with me or someone else, that it's so funny that we say the outdoors, because everything's outdoors. 0.97

00:37:53.000 Like, fucking everything's under the ceiling of the earth, you know? 0.97

00:37:56.000 That's what it really is. 0.99

00:37:57.000 Yeah.

00:37:58.000 But it's so weird that you don't really know the outdoors unless you stay out in the wilderness or something like that.

00:38:04.000 Yeah.

00:38:05.000 Unless you're...

00:38:05.000 And I think...

00:38:06.000 Also, being out there at night.

00:38:08.000 There's something about being out there at night.

00:38:10.000 Boy, the campfire and you hear things like, what was that? 0.99

00:38:13.000 The fuck was that? 0.98

00:38:13.000 You're looking around. 0.98

00:38:14.000 Absolute best, yeah.

00:38:15.000 And the campfire somehow or another seems to be able to protect you. 0.99

00:38:19.000 Most animals don't want to fuck with campfires. 0.98

00:38:21.000 You see that fire like, ah, I'm going to stay clear. 0.99

00:38:25.000 Me, I took Kim and the kids.

00:38:27.000 We traveled around Australia.

00:38:29.000 It must have been the end of 2007 and early last year.

00:38:33.000 And we camped out on the Tanami Desert, which is like one of the last places to really be discovered and explored in Australia.

00:38:39.000 Like there's no artificial lights out there at all, like whatsoever.

00:38:44.000 And we camped out on the desert and the only thing that was around us was like dingoes and camels.

00:38:50.000 Like you'd hear them moving through the night.

00:38:51.000 Camel?

00:38:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:38:52.000 But we sat there at camp.

00:38:54.000 I just had my truck, my ute, you know, with the camper on the back, like real lightweight set up.

00:39:01.000 And we sat there, no lights on the camper or anything.

00:39:04.000 So you're sitting in the pitch black, moonless night.

00:39:07.000 And the medias, dude, like I reckon we counted 40, 50 medias over like half hour, an hour.

00:39:14.000 Yeah, they're always flying in.

00:39:15.000 The naked eye, seeing them perfect, dude.

00:39:17.000 Sitting there with the family and I'm like, this is...

00:39:20.000 This is the best.

00:39:21.000 It was so amazing just to sit there, especially with the kids and Kim as well.

00:39:25.000 It's a little unnerving when you find out how many times they enter the atmosphere.

00:39:28.000 Oh, yeah.

00:39:29.000 How many of them are out there?

00:39:31.000 Jamie could probably look this up, but I think 100 tons of media hits the earth every single day.

00:39:40.000 100 tons, dude.

00:39:41.000 But most of it enters in dust form because it breaks up.

00:39:44.000 God.

00:39:45.000 But, uh, so last year, um, I was up at my cabin just chilling out by myself, woke up in the morning, needed to do a piss, walked out and I'm looking up and this media come through and it was so bright that it actually lit up the ground, dude, like the most incredible media that I've seen.

00:40:02.000 I had a time-lapse photo going in the opposite direction.

00:40:05.000 I quickly turned it around and And you see the media's dust for like, it lasts for 25 minutes, half an hour in the camera.

00:40:13.000 And it's just drift and change in shape in the atmosphere.

00:40:16.000 It was insane.

00:40:18.000 So it's just like every now and then there's like a real good one.

00:40:21.000 So then I started looking it up and I seen one that wrecked a whole village like in Germany or something like that.

00:40:27.000 This asteroid comes through. 0.86

00:40:29.000 Wrecking shit that it didn't even touch, but it comes so close to it, it blows the walls and the windows out and everything. 0.99

00:40:35.000 I'm like, this is fucking scary. 0.99

00:40:37.000 We live on a little speck that's like turning in one of many galaxies, you know? 0.99

00:40:42.000 My friend Randall Carlson put it best.

00:40:44.000 He said, we live in the middle of a shooting gallery.

00:40:46.000 Isn't it insane?

00:40:48.000 It's just the time, the perspective of hundreds of millions of years.

00:40:52.000 It doesn't seem...

00:40:54.000 It doesn't register to us because we're only around for a hundred years.

00:40:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.93

00:40:57.000 So when we look up and we see the moon, I mean, the moon looks like a fucking stop sign in the most... 0.93

00:41:06.000 Jankiest, redneck town. 1.00

00:41:07.000 You know, when people shoot at signs, that's what the moon looks like. 0.99

00:41:10.000 It's just fucking shot up with holes. 0.98

00:41:13.000 It's just getting nailed all the time, especially with no atmosphere. 0.99

00:41:15.000 All those things make it all the way through.

00:41:17.000 Nothing gets slowed down by the air or burns up in the atmosphere.

00:41:20.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:41:21.000 Everything just slams into it.

00:41:23.000 Boom, boom, boom.

00:41:24.000 Imagine being up there.

00:41:25.000 It must be all day long.

00:41:26.000 It must be slamming things into it.

00:41:29.000 I think it was like 10,000 years ago, there was like a big bang, like a big media.

00:41:34.000 hit hit the earth yeah and uh i started looking into that and then i started really looking into aborigines in australia indigenous how long they've been around for and stuff like that and there's now evidence to say that they've been around for 70 000 years they live through like three of those big medias hitting the earth you know like it's crazy to think about like why didn't i wish we had video cameras back then you know and they could have recorded it and we could look at it now like imagine that Well,

00:42:02.000 Randall Carlson, the guy that I talked about earlier, he is a proponent of this theory that this is what ended the Ice Age.

00:42:09.000 Yeah.

00:42:19.000 Yeah.

00:42:41.000 And it's hard in those fields to be taken seriously if you don't have a PhD in whatever discipline it is.

00:42:48.000 But, man, his work on these things is so compelling.

00:42:53.000 And the podcasts that I did with him are just mind-blowing.

00:42:55.000 But in terms of the evidence, it points to some event that ended the Ice Age very rapidly and caused the disintegration of the ice that was over North America.

00:43:08.000 You know, North America had something like a mile-high...

00:43:11.000 Plus sheet of ice over most of it.

00:43:13.000 Just 10,000 years ago.

00:43:14.000 12,000 years ago.

00:43:15.000 I think I was driving through Wyoming and they've got all these signs up in Wyoming that are really interesting and there's a rock formation that will tell you how old that rock formation is, how it formed.

00:43:27.000 Because rock usually embeds in layers like this.

00:43:30.000 It's formed in layers like this and then you'll see a rock like that.

00:43:33.000 All the lines are like this.

00:43:35.000 There's some of them there that are like...

00:43:38.000 Hundreds of million years old, you know, and there's a sign there showing it and it's just, it's incredible to think how much the Earth's changed and you just said it, we're around for a hundred years at a time max, you know, and it's just like...

00:43:50.000 We're a drop in the freaking ocean.

00:43:52.000 Like, even the whole human race is a drop in the ocean compared to, like, how old the earth is. 0.93

00:43:57.000 And it's just crazy to think of the...

00:43:59.000 Like, it's hard to comprehend that there was that much ice over here because there's none now.

00:44:02.000 Yeah.

00:44:03.000 You know, but it's been that long, you know, and that's...

00:44:06.000 Yeah, it's mind-boggling to think of.

00:44:09.000 Well, they find shells in Montana.

00:44:12.000 I found some on top of friggin' some big mace out in the desert, dude.

00:44:17.000 Like, there's no water for miles, and there's shells there.

00:44:20.000 There was, like, starfish fossilized in the rocks, and it's all, like, coral bed, you know, and that was, like, the bottom of the ocean.

00:44:27.000 That was a reef bed. 0.92

00:44:28.000 Yeah, it's the Great Western Inland Sea.

00:44:31.000 Yeah, they had sharks out there.

00:44:33.000 I think they had megalodons in Montana. 1.00

00:44:36.000 Shit. 1.00

00:44:37.000 They find dinosaurs there all the time. 0.99

00:44:39.000 One of Dudley's friends, Dudley knows a guy who has a ranch out there in Montana, and he found a bone in his ranch, just maybe something protruding from the ground.

00:44:52.000 And he wanted someone to get a look at it, so he got a hold of some, I guess, what would you, paleontologists?

00:44:58.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:44:59.000 They went and they said, you got a fucking T-Rex here, bro. 1.00

00:45:01.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:45:02.000 You got a T-Rex on your property. 1.00

00:45:04.000 Unbelievable.

00:45:05.000 I think they gave him a million dollars for it.

00:45:07.000 Really?

00:45:07.000 Yeah, because it's like a fully intact or close to intact T-Rex.

00:45:11.000 Far out.

00:45:12.000 Yeah, apparently Montana, Colorado, what do you got there?

00:45:16.000 A megalodon was found supposedly in Texas.

00:45:19.000 Jesus Christ! 1.00

00:45:21.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

00:45:22.000 That's a fucking great watch, Shark. 1.00

00:45:23.000 Boy, that's a stupid movie. 1.00

00:45:25.000 The Meg? 1.00

00:45:26.000 The Meg, yeah. 1.00

00:45:27.000 I won't watch that shit. 1.00

00:45:28.000 I watched it the other day. 1.00

00:45:29.000 Yeah, I could tell.

00:45:30.000 I was like, what am I sitting through here? 1.00

00:45:33.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

00:45:35.000 There wasn't just one, there was a bunch of them. 1.00

00:45:38.000 Spoiler alert.

00:45:39.000 Can you find out how much media...

00:45:42.000 Yeah, I was struggling to find that, and then I think I found what you found.

00:45:47.000 So it says, here's from NASA's website, there's 100 tons of dust and sand-sized particles that hit Earth every day.

00:45:56.000 Every day!

00:45:57.000 It seems like it would put the balance of the Earth off.

00:46:00.000 Do you know what I mean? 0.99

00:46:02.000 Are we sending shit back out into space? 0.99

00:46:04.000 Are we sending 100 tons of shit back out into space every day to offload this? 1.00

00:46:08.000 Look at this. 0.99

00:46:09.000 Every 2,000 years or so, a meteoroid the size of a football field hits Earth and causes significant damage to the area. 0.99

00:46:17.000 That's some scary shit. 0.95

00:46:19.000 Finally, once every few million years, an object large enough to threaten Earth's civilization comes along. 0.99

00:46:24.000 Not just that.

00:46:25.000 Bigger than that.

00:46:26.000 Impact craters on Earth, the moon, and other planetary bodies are evidence of these occurrences.

00:46:31.000 Yeah, they don't even know.

00:46:32.000 You know, that's the most spooky thing.

00:46:35.000 Like, Neil deGrasse Tyson said that we are decades away from being able to do anything about one of those things coming our way.

00:46:43.000 And I said to all these people that think that they could stop it when it's happening, he's like, not happening.

00:46:48.000 He goes, there's nothing you can do.

00:46:50.000 What about Armageddon, bro?

00:46:51.000 The movie?

00:46:52.000 Bruce Willis.

00:46:53.000 Yeah, we've got to send Bruce Willis up there.

00:46:54.000 He'll figure it out.

00:46:55.000 He'll sort it out.

00:46:56.000 Yeah.

00:46:57.000 People have a real distorted idea of the technological capabilities in terms of, first of all, NASA is so under-budgeted.

00:47:05.000 They barely have enough money to put satellites in orbit.

00:47:09.000 They don't have enough money to stop asteroids from flying. 0.92

00:47:11.000 I mean, the amount of money you would need is so fucking massive.

00:47:14.000 It would take a cooperative joint effort of every major country in the world. 0.62

00:47:19.000 Yeah, and such a force of nature. 0.99

00:47:21.000 And, you know, a force of nature usually can't be fucked with. 0.99

00:47:24.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:47:25.000 It's scary.

00:47:25.000 Well, all they can do, all they think they could do, and not even now, but in the future, is move it off target slightly.

00:47:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:47:34.000 To somehow or another give it a bump.

00:47:37.000 Yeah, it's scary.

00:47:46.000 Space is scary.

00:47:47.000 And you don't really see space unless you're out there with no light pollution.

00:47:52.000 I don't think people...

00:47:54.000 That don't camp or that don't go out.

00:47:57.000 You know, you look up at night, like last night.

00:48:00.000 Well, not last night, but a couple nights ago when it wasn't raining.

00:48:02.000 It was a clear night and I saw quite a few stars because there was no moon.

00:48:05.000 I was like, wow, so pretty. 0.98

00:48:07.000 But it ain't shit. 0.97

00:48:08.000 But you're not seeing the volume of it. 0.98

00:48:09.000 Yeah.

00:48:10.000 Those photos that you have?

00:48:11.000 Yeah.

00:48:12.000 Out at my farm, you can just sit there with the naked eye and you can look right into those.

00:48:16.000 There's so many stars that it looks like a dark spot of the Milky Way because you can see so much of it.

00:48:22.000 You know, you see colour in it and everything.

00:48:23.000 It's an amazing spot.

00:48:25.000 Yeah, the color is weird, right?

00:48:26.000 What is the color?

00:48:27.000 What is that?

00:48:28.000 I don't know.

00:48:29.000 I looked at some photos the other day, not my own photo, someone else's photos, and they were showing the raw images, and the color that was coming out of these raw images, they look like absolute pillars, like painted pillars, dude.

00:48:43.000 Yeah.

00:48:44.000 I don't know.

00:48:45.000 I don't know if it's the depth in it, if it's...

00:48:47.000 Something like that.

00:48:49.000 Jamie, go to Adam's The First Man Instagram again, like the ones of...

00:49:00.000 Oh, look at that one from BC. Go down one strip, that one there.

00:49:04.000 That's with the Northern Lights in it.

00:49:06.000 Wow.

00:49:07.000 But, yeah, that's...

00:49:07.000 So, no light pollution out there, obviously.

00:49:10.000 Oh, you saw the Northern Lights in BC? Yeah.

00:49:12.000 I didn't know you could see them in BC. Yeah.

00:49:13.000 I thought you had to be in, like, Iceland or some shit. 0.68

00:49:15.000 No, that was cool. 0.73

00:49:17.000 I've seen them...

00:49:18.000 When I was in Northwest Territories, they were lighting up the ground.

00:49:21.000 Like, and right in front of your eyes, they were just, like, dancing constantly right in front of your eyes.

00:49:25.000 That was awesome.

00:49:26.000 In the Northwest Territories of Australia?

00:49:28.000 Yeah.

00:49:28.000 No, in Canada.

00:49:30.000 Oh, okay.

00:49:31.000 Northern Territories of Australia, right?

00:49:33.000 That's what they call it?

00:49:33.000 Yeah, Northern.

00:49:34.000 Northwest is, okay.

00:49:35.000 So where is it at the best, though? 0.96

00:49:37.000 Is it the best place to see it in, like, Iceland or some shit, or Norway? 0.90

00:49:41.000 I don't know. 0.97

00:49:42.000 I don't know.

00:49:42.000 I've seen it.

00:49:43.000 So I've seen it in Northwest Territories.

00:49:45.000 I've seen it in BC. I don't think...

00:49:47.000 We didn't see it in Alberta when we were there.

00:49:49.000 No?

00:49:49.000 No.

00:49:50.000 But I think we had shitty weather while we were there, too.

00:49:52.000 It's got to be a crazy thing to see, though, huh?

00:49:54.000 It's like green smoke in the sky.

00:49:56.000 Yeah.

00:49:56.000 If you go down a couple more, Jamie, please.

00:50:06.000 Silence.

00:50:07.000 There's the farm go up one.

00:50:10.000 Yeah, hit that one in the middle there. 0.99

00:50:12.000 Wow, look at the colour in that one.

00:50:14.000 God, that's amazing.

00:50:16.000 And is that, what kind of, you have to do something with the aperture?

00:50:20.000 Well, for starters, it's open for longer.

00:50:23.000 Right.

00:50:24.000 So it's gathering in more light.

00:50:25.000 You know, like the human eye, you have to actually lay there in the dark for a fair while and just like stare into that sort of, to get a good look at it.

00:50:32.000 How long is it open to get that image?

00:50:34.000 That's like 13 or 15 seconds.

00:50:37.000 Oh, wow.

00:50:38.000 Yeah.

00:50:38.000 You can leave it open for 30 seconds or you can put it on like an actual jammed open for a long time, but it's way too much light for what the farm has.

00:50:47.000 And you can start getting a lot of distortion as well.

00:50:51.000 That's such a cool picture with the cabin as well, with the light coming out of the cabin.

00:50:55.000 Yeah.

00:50:55.000 Isn't that crazy that there could be infinite earths out there?

00:51:00.000 Yeah, that's what's crazy, is that each one of those is a sun.

00:51:03.000 Yeah.

00:51:04.000 And most of them are bigger. 0.99

00:51:06.000 I mean, apparently our sun is a little bitch-ass sun. 1.00

00:51:09.000 A little bitch-ass sun. 1.00

00:51:11.000 Thank God for that, otherwise it'll be fried. 0.99

00:51:13.000 Well, we'd just have to be further away.

00:51:15.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:51:15.000 Look at that.

00:51:16.000 But the big ones don't last that long, apparently.

00:51:18.000 Yeah.

00:51:18.000 Our sun's a good one.

00:51:20.000 It's like a Toyota Tercel.

00:51:23.000 Yeah.

00:51:23.000 It's like a Toyota Hilux, you mean.

00:51:26.000 They fucking last, man. 0.99

00:51:27.000 Land Cruiser. 0.99

00:51:28.000 Hilux, we don't have that over here.

00:51:30.000 Yeah, you've got like the Tacoma.

00:51:31.000 Yeah, Hilux is like a small Land Cruiser, right?

00:51:34.000 Yeah, it is, yeah.

00:51:35.000 You guys got a bunch of wacky cars.

00:51:37.000 The Cruiser's probably better.

00:51:38.000 I'm about to buy a Land Cruiser.

00:51:39.000 That's the Hilux there.

00:51:41.000 The new Land Cruiser?

00:51:42.000 Yeah.

00:51:43.000 The tray back though.

00:51:44.000 So like a dual cab.

00:51:45.000 So like five seats, but it's got a tray on it.

00:51:48.000 A tray?

00:51:49.000 You mean like a pickup truck bed?

00:51:51.000 Like a pickup truck bed, but we usually rip the one that's on it off.

00:51:56.000 We usually rip the pickup truck bed off because it's bulky.

00:52:00.000 There's not a lot of room in it really.

00:52:02.000 Usually rip that off and we'll build a steel tray. 0.93

00:52:05.000 So it's like a whole flatbed.

00:52:07.000 You might call it a flatbed.

00:52:11.000 You can just fit a lot more on it and it's a lot more rickety. 0.98

00:52:14.000 You can throw firewood rocks on it, whatever the fuck you want. 0.88

00:52:17.000 Well, you guys have to have vehicles that you could drive for like a day before you hit a gas station. 0.98

00:52:25.000 If you're doing those hunts that I do, yeah.

00:52:28.000 So one of the first things you do is you rip off the fuel tank and you put like an aftermarket fuel tank on it.

00:52:33.000 That's usually like twice the capacity.

00:52:35.000 Or you throw a second fuel tank on it.

00:52:37.000 and go from there so I don't know what it is in gallons but like say a fuel tanks like usually 60 litres 20 gallons is what usually a fuel tank is out here.

00:52:46.000 Well, then we'd double it to like 40 or 50 or 60 or something like that.

00:52:51.000 Right.

00:52:51.000 And because there's such a market for it in Australia, there's a bunch of them that you buy ready that are ready to mount onto your vehicle.

00:52:58.000 Why is there a market for that in Australia? 0.87

00:52:59.000 Because it's fucking 100 miles anywhere. 0.99

00:53:02.000 That's why. 0.99

00:53:05.000 Forward driving is like different in Australia as well.

00:53:08.000 You know, it's like...

00:53:08.000 So, where my business is...

00:53:11.000 The nearest city, which is Perth, is like 18 hours drive.

00:53:16.000 18 hours drive to the nearest city?

00:53:21.000 18 hours?

00:53:22.000 18 hours.

00:53:24.000 What is that, Jamie?

00:53:25.000 That's too far.

00:53:27.000 But what would it take us to get...

00:53:28.000 That's like Colorado?

00:53:31.000 I've driven from Ohio to here twice, and it took 33 hours.

00:53:36.000 And 24 hours gets you from Columbus to Amarillo, Texas.

00:53:40.000 24 hours of straight driving.

00:53:42.000 Straight driving.

00:53:43.000 Jesus Christ.

00:53:45.000 Western Australia is like a massive state.

00:53:47.000 It goes from the very top of Australia to the very bottom of Australia.

00:53:50.000 What does it feel like when you get out of the car for 33 hours of driving? 0.92

00:53:54.000 Sucks.

00:53:55.000 So bad. 0.97

00:53:56.000 The one time we ended at 4 in the morning right on the Sunset Strip right at that hotel, the Hyatt.

00:54:00.000 Wow.

00:54:01.000 Like 5 in the morning.

00:54:02.000 But when you get in LA at 4 in the morning, you're right into traffic again. 1.00

00:54:05.000 You're like tired as shit. 0.99

00:54:06.000 You're like, oh, it's time to go. 1.00

00:54:07.000 You gotta go because you're about to wreck right at the end of the trip.

00:54:09.000 But you're pumping Kanye the whole way, though.

00:54:13.000 Actually, Uber, yeah.

00:54:15.000 Keeping awake.

00:54:17.000 It's a hellish drive.

00:54:18.000 And it's just...

00:54:20.000 You know, to some people it's nothing the whole way, but it's a beautiful country.

00:54:23.000 If you're in the outback, you're staring out and you're happy the whole time.

00:54:28.000 Is that a very popular thing to do in Australia, is to go out into the outback and...

00:54:32.000 It is, yeah.

00:54:33.000 Between like four drive and like touring and furious and like we call them the grey nomads. 1.00

00:54:39.000 So like older people that have retired with grey hair, like old mate's beard there. 0.89

00:54:43.000 Grey nomad? 0.90

00:54:44.000 Young Jamie ain't looking so young.

00:54:46.000 But a grey nomad we call them, yeah. 0.60

00:54:49.000 They'll get like a tow behind trailer. 0.98

00:54:51.000 Is that a normal description?

00:54:53.000 Grey nomad, yeah.

00:54:54.000 In Australia it is.

00:54:55.000 So if I said, yeah, we saw these grey nomads out there, people go, okay. 1.00

00:54:58.000 Yeah.

00:54:58.000 Don't say it to the grey nomads, though.

00:55:00.000 No?

00:55:00.000 No.

00:55:01.000 Oh, true grey nomads.

00:55:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:02.000 But if you said it went to the gas station, like, you see anybody out there?

00:55:05.000 Yeah, we saw some grey nomads. 0.61

00:55:06.000 Yeah, yeah, totally.

00:55:06.000 That's normal.

00:55:07.000 People know what you're saying?

00:55:07.000 Yeah.

00:55:08.000 Huh.

00:55:08.000 Yeah.

00:55:09.000 Now, do most people that will do this, are they just going out there camping?

00:55:15.000 Just camping, getting a good influx of the outdoors sort of thing, getting a hit.

00:55:21.000 It seems like there is quite a bit of hunting in Australia, though.

00:55:24.000 Particularly bow hunting seems to be on the rise.

00:55:27.000 Yeah.

00:55:27.000 Yeah, it's just not really promoted well, except for the Bowen community itself.

00:55:34.000 Whereas you come to America and there's towns with a big sign up saying, Welcome Hunters, and it's promoted.

00:55:41.000 Really?

00:55:41.000 Yeah, it's like it's not part of our history in Australia, even though it is.

00:55:46.000 Signs that say, Welcome Hunters?

00:55:48.000 In America.

00:55:48.000 Haven't you seen those signs?

00:55:49.000 Oh, in America.

00:55:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:50.000 Oh, in Australia, there's none of that.

00:55:52.000 Oh, yeah, that's what I meant. 0.95

00:55:53.000 So, I think it is on the rise, you know, and I think there's like this bit of a trend at the moment, you know, go and kill your own, which is good. 0.97

00:56:01.000 I love that.

00:56:02.000 Well, especially because Australia has so many non-native species that you can hunt.

00:56:06.000 Exactly, yeah.

00:56:07.000 And, I mean, you don't ever have to buy meat in Australia.

00:56:10.000 No, no.

00:56:11.000 Do you ever buy meat?

00:56:12.000 No.

00:56:12.000 If we're eating chicken, yeah, that's about it.

00:56:15.000 Just to mix it up?

00:56:16.000 Yeah, the fridge is full.

00:56:17.000 I fill all my friends' fridges, my family's fridges.

00:56:21.000 Speaking of chicken, what's that mountain lion taste like? 0.99

00:56:23.000 Fucking delicious. 0.99

00:56:24.000 That's what I keep hearing. 1.00

00:56:26.000 I keep hearing it's delicious.

00:56:27.000 And people get angry.

00:56:29.000 It's so strange to me how angry people get if you kill a mountain lion.

00:56:33.000 Yeah.

00:56:34.000 Because I think they think that if you kill it, it's different than killing a deer or something that's a normal thing to eat.

00:56:40.000 Yeah.

00:56:41.000 Even more than a bear.

00:56:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:56:42.000 I think they get more angry.

00:56:44.000 It's their kitty cat.

00:56:45.000 Yeah.

00:56:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:56:46.000 Meanwhile, that motherfucker will kill you. 1.00

00:56:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:56:48.000 I had a bunch of people saying, you know, you shouldn't have killed it. 1.00

00:56:51.000 I don't see mountain lions like I see deer. 1.00

00:56:53.000 I'm fucking no shit. 1.00

00:56:54.000 Because if you've seen mountain lions like you've seen deer, there'd be no deer. 1.00

00:56:58.000 It's as simple as that.

00:56:59.000 You know, I don't know what the numbers are, but there's probably supposed to be like one mountain lion for every 500 deer or something like that.

00:57:05.000 Yeah.

00:57:05.000 Well, they eat one a day.

00:57:07.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:57:08.000 And they're a sneaky creature.

00:57:09.000 You're not supposed to see them.

00:57:11.000 They're not like that.

00:57:12.000 Listen, you could go your whole life not seeing them and they could be around you all the time.

00:57:17.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:57:17.000 That's a fact.

00:57:18.000 If you live in the wilderness, if you live in Montana or you live in Colorado and you live in the woods, you might see one every few years.

00:57:28.000 Yeah.

00:57:29.000 You might.

00:57:30.000 Might.

00:57:30.000 You might see one every few years.

00:57:32.000 And they are fucking everywhere. 0.99

00:57:33.000 Yeah, I'll see prints all the time, but I'll never see a cat. 0.99

00:57:37.000 Like, I've actually never seen a cat in the wild except for the one that I hunted.

00:57:41.000 And that's like that story I was telling you before.

00:57:44.000 Like, it was eating a calf, but they typically kill a deer every single day.

00:57:48.000 Yeah.

00:57:48.000 You know, so...

00:57:49.000 It's a lot of fucking deer. 0.99

00:57:51.000 The human brain allows us to manage things in a certain way. 1.00

00:57:54.000 These biologists have put all this study and research going, okay, you can hunt males in this area.

00:58:00.000 So that's all I could hunt where I was. 0.92

00:58:02.000 I could only shoot a male. 0.98

00:58:03.000 How do you know it's a male? 0.99

00:58:04.000 Well, that's when the dogs come in handy.

00:58:08.000 I've never really wanted to hunt with dogs because I like to do all the hunting myself, but there's a special bond between the hunter and the dogs when you're hunting, that's for sure, and it was actually a really good experience.

00:58:19.000 I really loved it, but a lot of people frown on using dogs, but the best way to...

00:58:28.000 Yeah.

00:58:52.000 Yeah.

00:59:08.000 If it was a female, we would have had to have left it where we were. 1.00

00:59:11.000 Some states aren't like that and counties aren't like that, where it can be male and female if the population is too high.

00:59:17.000 What they're trying to do in that part of Colorado is just keep that mountain lion population healthy and how they determined that was by shooting males only.

00:59:26.000 That could change next year.

00:59:27.000 They could have a rise in mountain lion, a decrease in the mule deer and other animals, so they might change that again, but we could only shoot a male, so... 0.79

00:59:36.000 Yeah, the problem in America, particularly in California, where they outlawed hunting with dogs, is that the perception of using a dog to go after an animal, the perception is that it's not fair.

00:59:49.000 What people, I mean, this is going to be hard for some people, especially animal lovers, to understand, but that is the only effective way to hunt for mountain lions, because there's no way you're going to sneak up on them.

01:00:00.000 You're No, that's right.

01:00:01.000 You're not going to see them.

01:00:02.000 That's where numbers start to bloom and other animals like mule deer and stuff start to plummet, which I've heard a lot that's happening in California is the mule deer population has just been decimated because there's no control on the mountain lions.

01:00:14.000 Exactly.

01:00:14.000 Well, they do have control of the mountain lions, but only government employees kill the mountain lions.

01:00:19.000 They kill, ironically, the same amount of mountain lions they were killing when they were hunting them.

01:00:23.000 That is insane.

01:00:24.000 Exactly.

01:00:24.000 It's insane.

01:00:25.000 But instead of people paying money to do it and getting a tag.

01:00:29.000 Which goes back into conservation.

01:00:30.000 And getting to eat the mountain lion, which I know, again, people are like, what are you talking about eating mountain lion?

01:00:35.000 I'm telling you folks, I haven't eaten one, but I'm telling you, and you said it, Brunella said it's one of the most delicious animals he's ever eaten.

01:00:43.000 Yeah, I wanted to bring you some, but it's actually illegal to bring it in to California.

01:00:48.000 Good thing we always abide by the law, Adam Green Tree.

01:00:51.000 Exactly.

01:00:52.000 One day I'll try it.

01:00:53.000 Yeah.

01:00:54.000 Wink, wink.

01:00:55.000 So then I've cooked it up and I'm feeding it to Kim.

01:00:58.000 Yeah.

01:00:59.000 And I was cooking chicken as well just in case her and the kids didn't like it.

01:01:02.000 I had chicken on the grill as well.

01:01:03.000 And I served the mountain lion first and they were eating the mountain lion.

01:01:07.000 And I'm like, what do you think of it?

01:01:08.000 And she's like, I've got the chicken.

01:01:10.000 I'm like, no, you don't.

01:01:11.000 You've got the mountain lion.

01:01:13.000 And it was delicious, dude.

01:01:14.000 It's tender as.

01:01:15.000 I felt like it was a taste between chicken and pork or chicken and even venison.

01:01:23.000 I found it right in the middle there.

01:01:24.000 It's delicious.

01:01:25.000 And I'm not saying everyone should go and hunt a mountain lion because you can't do that.

01:01:28.000 But there's certain places that you can go and get a tag for the benefit of wildlife and go and hunt a mountain lion.

01:01:34.000 People just have a hard time with the idea that you are somehow or another helping to control the population by killing an animal that kills other animals.

01:01:44.000 Yeah.

01:01:45.000 It's really weird.

01:01:47.000 They would rather let nature take its course.

01:01:49.000 So even if, like, let's go to Africa now, even if the lion population way outweighed something and was running it to extinction, these people would want to sit back and just let that happen.

01:02:01.000 And it's like humans have got...

01:02:06.000 Yeah.

01:02:24.000 Yeah, for the people that know it, they respect it and they appreciate it.

01:02:28.000 You know, people like Backcountry Hunters and Anglers and all these different organizations, Rocky Mountain Elk Federation, a lot of different organizations they have in the United States that really appreciate what they're doing to promote that idea here in America.

01:02:42.000 But people that don't hunt and don't It took me years to kind of wrap my head around it and really truly understand it and become educated as to how it works and how wildlife biologists set these standards and they do it based on healthy populations and how much time they spend doing surveys and analyzing the population,

01:03:00.000 how important it is to these reports that hunters send in to wildlife organizations and the Department of Fish and Game.

01:03:08.000 It's really interesting stuff.

01:03:09.000 Yeah.

01:03:09.000 And I'm not a blanket killer either, because I understand where those people are coming from as well.

01:03:14.000 We need a certain amount of that, because it could go the opposite way, where it's like, just go out and hunt everything, and it's not the case.

01:03:21.000 If something's not in a good, healthy population, I'm not interested in hunting it at all myself.

01:03:25.000 Of course, yeah.

01:03:25.000 You know, I want to see these animals stay here for forever.

01:03:28.000 I want my kids, kids, kids, kids to be able to see those animals in a good, healthy population.

01:03:33.000 Yeah, like when I hear about limited entry tags for moose or something like that, because there's a small number and they'll let a certain amount of people... 0.98

01:03:42.000 Whoa, what the fuck did you do out of a green tree? 0.99

01:03:47.000 That kombucha's got your name on it. 0.99

01:03:48.000 This is why there's a towel here.

01:03:50.000 Has this happened before? 0.86

01:03:51.000 No, I'm a slob. 0.69

01:03:52.000 That's why the towel's here. 1.00

01:03:53.000 I fucking spill everything. 0.97

01:03:54.000 I've ruined two laptops, at least, right? 0.98

01:03:57.000 At least two laptops during this show. 1.00

01:03:59.000 That shit's angry. 1.00

01:04:00.000 That's like angry. 1.00

01:04:02.000 America's dangerous.

01:04:03.000 It is. 1.00

01:04:03.000 Fucking kombucha. 1.00

01:04:04.000 GT's kombucha is very dangerous. 1.00

01:04:06.000 We're going back to the coffee.

01:04:08.000 I found out, like, in some places they have a small amount of moose, and they'll let you hunt a moose, but it has to be, like, one moose, and it has to be over 50 inches, and, like, I'm out.

01:04:20.000 Yeah.

01:04:21.000 Like, I don't want to shoot that moose.

01:04:22.000 How many of them are there?

01:04:23.000 There's 200 of them? 1.00

01:04:24.000 Fuck out of here. 1.00

01:04:25.000 I'm not shooting anything. 1.00

01:04:26.000 Yeah, not interested.

01:04:26.000 No, like, what if the winter comes and kills a bunch of them off, like, which happens?

01:04:30.000 What if wolves move in?

01:04:32.000 Happens.

01:04:33.000 Yeah.

01:04:33.000 And that's why these tag limits and that change from year to year as well.

01:04:37.000 Like, I've seen them constantly change because they'll do their research or the kill wasn't big enough last year or the winner was too harsh and, you know, they start limiting tags.

01:04:46.000 Yeah, that's very scientific.

01:04:47.000 I think in most cases, we've got it right.

01:04:51.000 Yeah, I think so too.

01:04:52.000 Which is one of the reasons why one of my favorite places to hunt is Lanai.

01:04:56.000 Because lanai is so out of whack. 0.99

01:04:59.000 With fucking spotted little demons that just jump out of the way of arrows constantly. 1.00

01:05:04.000 It's crazy. 1.00

01:05:05.000 An animal that evolved to get away from tigers. 1.00

01:05:08.000 You can't believe how fast those goddamn things are. 1.00

01:05:10.000 And delicious. 1.00

01:05:13.000 Do you think it's kind of a weird coincidence that the fastest animal you can hunt is also the most delicious?

01:05:19.000 Yeah.

01:05:19.000 Oh, totally, yeah.

01:05:21.000 You know?

01:05:21.000 Yeah.

01:05:22.000 Like, that's kind of weird.

01:05:23.000 It's almost like a reward.

01:05:24.000 Maybe because they are delicious, they've learned to move faster.

01:05:27.000 I think a deer...

01:05:28.000 So, you know, we say jump the string, like when you shoot, like the deer hears the bow go off or something like that, and we call it jump the string, which you'll know about this, but a lot of people won't.

01:05:36.000 They actually don't jump out of the string.

01:05:38.000 When they miss your arrow, they actually drop...

01:05:41.000 To bound the way.

01:05:42.000 So they drop, load up their legs and then jump, you know, but it's actually the drop.

01:05:47.000 That's when you usually miss them.

01:05:48.000 Well, that moves at over 1300 feet per second.

01:05:52.000 A really good bow shoots at about 300 feet per second in a hunting situation.

01:05:56.000 So you can't beat them.

01:05:58.000 1300 feet per second.

01:05:59.000 1300 feet per second.

01:06:01.000 That's how fast they start dropping.

01:06:02.000 God, that's insane.

01:06:04.000 Yeah.

01:06:04.000 Well, the thing about access deer, as opposed to any other animal I've ever hunted, is they don't just jump the string.

01:06:09.000 They get out of the way.

01:06:10.000 Yeah.

01:06:11.000 They're gone.

01:06:11.000 Like a whole body length.

01:06:12.000 They're gone.

01:06:12.000 It's like, yeah.

01:06:14.000 Like, you have to, they have to not know you're there.

01:06:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:06:17.000 Like, the first one that I killed this season had no idea I was there.

01:06:22.000 No idea.

01:06:23.000 No idea I was there, and it was a nice wind, so when that arrow hit him, he was quartering away, when that hit him, he had no idea it was coming, and it nailed him perfect.

01:06:30.000 Yeah, was that our trip, or a different one?

01:06:31.000 Yeah, that was when I got out of the car and I saw one 15 minutes into the hunt.

01:06:36.000 Yeah, big velvet head.

01:06:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:06:38.000 So I try and, it's the same with fellow deer back in Australia, like they're really fast off the mark.

01:06:43.000 I'll try and shoot them when they're busy, you know, when they've got other noise happening, they're raking their antlers, they're stepping forward or something like that.

01:06:50.000 And the few that I shot in Lanai, one was scruffing with another buck, so he was all busy and he didn't move at all and it pegged him. 0.94

01:06:58.000 The other one was in high winds in the grass and had the grass like moving around it and he didn't move.

01:07:04.000 And then the third one was on a really still day, and I actually aimed for his heart, and he dropped, and I ended up hitting him double lungs.

01:07:12.000 They're so quick, it's like you need to...

01:07:14.000 Calculate.

01:07:16.000 Even right at the moment when you're like, I'm going to shoot, it's like you need to wait for something extra to happen.

01:07:21.000 Well, it's a great place to get...

01:07:26.000 Accustomed to stalking and hunting animals with a bow.

01:07:30.000 Oh, totally.

01:07:30.000 Because the opportunities are so many.

01:07:33.000 Yeah, you blow one, you're like, I'll move on to the next one.

01:07:35.000 There's 20,000 deer and 3,000 people on a tiny little island.

01:07:40.000 Yeah.

01:07:41.000 Did you ever go out at night in a car when you see them on the side of the road?

01:07:44.000 You're like, what?

01:07:45.000 I think I was in the car with you and there was like 400 coming across the road.

01:07:50.000 And it's just like all these little eyes just going...

01:07:52.000 It didn't even make sense.

01:07:54.000 It didn't even make sense.

01:07:55.000 And they hire people to go in there with sniper rifles and just take them out one after another.

01:07:59.000 It's crazy.

01:08:00.000 Yeah.

01:08:01.000 And then something that's always got to me...

01:08:03.000 So like one of the property owners that lives beside my property where I hunt...

01:08:08.000 He'll go out, because deer are vermin in Australia, and they've just been declassified.

01:08:13.000 They classified them as game animals for a year or a couple of years.

01:08:16.000 Now they've just declassified them because the numbers are just exploding.

01:08:20.000 So you can shoot them under lights, you can do anything.

01:08:23.000 You can feed them, you can bait them, you can do whatever you want. 0.99

01:08:26.000 Wow, they just want to get rid of them.

01:08:27.000 Yeah, and so this guy, he raises cattle.

01:08:31.000 And so that's what he has.

01:08:33.000 He'll go out at night and he'll shoot these deer and just leave them right where they lay, not take any meat off them or anything, but then kill one of his own cattle to fill his freezer and fridge.

01:08:42.000 And the first time he'd actually eaten venison was when I shot a deer on his property and I cut it up and I actually gave it to him.

01:08:50.000 That was the first time he'd ever eaten venison.

01:08:52.000 I'm like, John, you're killing your own cattle, this delicious meat sitting right there. 0.99

01:08:57.000 There's this wild resource and it's renewable because they fuck each other, they breed. 1.00

01:09:02.000 Yeah, and so he's eating his own cattle instead of selling them? 0.91

01:09:05.000 Yeah, and the other thing is, another way that I've always looked at it is these wild animals are there, whether you like it or not.

01:09:13.000 They're there.

01:09:13.000 Why place another cow or another sheep in the paddock to put strain on the landscape?

01:09:18.000 Yeah.

01:09:19.000 Especially if you're eating your own, why not just go and shoot a deer?

01:09:22.000 It's a wild animal and you're doing the ecosystem of service by doing it.

01:09:26.000 And they're some of the most healthy animals you could ever eat.

01:09:29.000 They're delicious.

01:09:30.000 They're super healthy for you.

01:09:32.000 They're so rich in vitamins and nutrients and protein.

01:09:35.000 And I prefer it over everything.

01:09:38.000 Yeah.

01:09:39.000 I really do.

01:09:39.000 Yeah, and it's not just the taste, it's that whole feeling thing.

01:09:42.000 Like, I went and got this, I earned this, I killed this, I know where this comes from, you're attached to it.

01:09:47.000 We've spoken about it before, but when you get meat that's served in a package at the supermarket, that goes through past hundreds and hundreds of people's hands and breaths and stuff like that, you know, and It's just like having sex with Scarlett Johansson in the virtual reality world. 0.71

01:10:03.000 There you go.

01:10:04.000 That's the next detachment.

01:10:06.000 That's it.

01:10:06.000 It's going to be meat.

01:10:07.000 Instead of meat, it's going to be sex. 0.98

01:10:09.000 That's the next detachment.

01:10:10.000 Well, there's these people that are making artificial meat now.

01:10:13.000 Or not just artificial.

01:10:15.000 I shouldn't say artificial.

01:10:15.000 It's real meat, but it's meat that's made in a lab.

01:10:18.000 And that's the, I don't know what they're calling it, ethical meat or whatever the fuck they're calling it, but it's the future of meat production.

01:10:26.000 And, you know, this is making animal rights people very excited because they're basically going to have just lab meat. 0.97

01:10:32.000 That's so fucking, yeah, so you know what's going to happen? 1.00

01:10:35.000 No more cows, no more domestic pigs, no more, the shit that they love. 1.00

01:10:39.000 Like the reason that cow's there is because there's a demand for meat. 1.00

01:10:42.000 So that cow gets a life. 1.00

01:10:44.000 Because there's meat, right? 0.99

01:10:45.000 No one's going to let these cows and sheep and domestic pigs and shit run around on their landscape and take up real estate if there's no market for them. 1.00

01:10:52.000 Well, pigs are the weirdest one. 1.00

01:10:54.000 Because pigs, like my friend Whitney Cummings, she adopted a pig that... 1.00

01:10:59.000 Where'd she get that pig? 1.00

01:11:01.000 I think it was from the fire, right?

01:11:02.000 Yeah.

01:11:03.000 And she actually wound up driving it to Texas...

01:11:06.000 She drove in her car 24 hours. 1.00

01:11:08.000 She's a fucking maniac when it comes to animals. 1.00

01:11:11.000 I think her and her fiancé drove to Texas with this fucking pig to drop it off at this pig shelter. 1.00

01:11:17.000 And damn, dude, when she's with that pig, that thing is like a dog. 1.00

01:11:21.000 Might as well be my dog. 1.00

01:11:24.000 It's just like hanging out.

01:11:25.000 Oh, they're an intelligent animal.

01:11:27.000 But... 1.00

01:11:29.000 When they get loose and they're out in the wild, boy, they fucking breed three, four times a year. 0.99

01:11:35.000 They'll have big piles of piglets, and those piglets will destroy... 1.00

01:11:39.000 They eat everything in sight.

01:11:40.000 They're omnivorous.

01:11:41.000 They're absolutely devastating to the ecosystem.

01:11:43.000 For everything.

01:11:44.000 They're devastating to plants and ground-nesting birds, animals, everything.

01:11:48.000 They eat everything in front of them. 1.00

01:11:49.000 They're pigs. 1.00

01:11:50.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:11:51.000 And I don't hate them.

01:11:52.000 Like, I don't hate them. 0.99

01:11:53.000 I love pigs. 0.97

01:11:54.000 I think they're an unreal animal.

01:11:55.000 But...

01:11:56.000 The bigger picture is they need to be controlled.

01:11:58.000 They can't go out there and just ruin our ecosystem like that.

01:12:02.000 Well, you're seeing it in Texas.

01:12:04.000 Texas is probably, in the United States, is the biggest example of what happens when, or the best example of what happens when these feral hogs are just completely out of control.

01:12:13.000 They just devastate these agricultural farms. 0.99

01:12:17.000 They have these farms and they're just getting destroyed.

01:12:20.000 Yeah, and it's all the wildlife, other wildlife as well, because they eat frogs and they'll eat lizards and anything that's on the ground that's edible, they'll eat it.

01:12:29.000 I wrote an article years ago, it was called...

01:12:33.000 A killer at the pass.

01:12:34.000 It was a place in Australia and the property owners, like the ranchers, called me up and they said, you need to come out and shoot some of the foxes, like they're devastating our lambs.

01:12:45.000 And I ended up going out there and when I was driving in with the four-wheel drive at night with the high beams on, I seen this massive big black and white boar walking between the flock of sheep with a lamb in its mouth.

01:12:56.000 There was this pig and it had got a taste for meat.

01:12:58.000 And it happens all the time, like So a big boar, especially a mature animal, will get a taste for meat in harsher conditions and they'll just stick to meat after that.

01:13:07.000 And I end up catching up with this pig the next morning and shot it with the bow.

01:13:11.000 It actually attacked me. 0.99

01:13:12.000 The first shot wasn't perfect and it charged me and I end up like stabbing it to death.

01:13:17.000 I was on a slope like this on the mountain and it was really a battle.

01:13:22.000 He ended up hooking the bow out of my hand because when he charged me, I put an arrow on and shot and just went down one side and hit one lung.

01:13:29.000 It just infuriated this bore and he was on me. 0.62

01:13:33.000 When I was fending him off with the bow, his tusk went into the bottom limb of the bow or the cam or something like that and ripped the bow out of my hand. 0.96

01:13:41.000 And I end up getting my knife off me and I end up like stabbing this pig while it was like trying to run me over. 0.99

01:13:46.000 Holy shit. 0.99

01:13:47.000 How big was it? 1.00

01:13:48.000 It was a big boar.

01:13:49.000 It was like a big meat-eating boar like this.

01:13:52.000 Like how many pounds? 1.00

01:13:54.000 Oh, fucking big. 1.00

01:13:55.000 That's how many pounds. 1.00

01:13:56.000 300?

01:13:57.000 Probably not 300. Our mountain boars just get real solid.

01:14:00.000 Yeah, probably 200 or something like that. 0.94

01:14:03.000 And anyway, I end up stabbing this thing to death. 0.68

01:14:06.000 And when I end up cutting it open, its whole insides, like its whole stomach was like lamb's hocks, like the feet, the bottom of the feet where they can't swallow and skulls and just like little bits of wool and stuff like that. 0.97

01:14:20.000 Wow.

01:14:20.000 It'd just been going around and just picking these lambs off and killing them.

01:14:24.000 Wow.

01:14:24.000 Yeah, and it's a really known occurrence in Australia now that if things get harsh, they'll just go, they'll just, because they're just absolutely ruthless.

01:14:31.000 They'll just walk right between the sheep and just fucking grab a lamb, walk off of it, chew it up and eat it. 0.96

01:14:36.000 But anyway, first thing in that morning that I found was a pig spew and it was like this fucking spew like this and it was the same as lambs, hocks and it was like- What's a spew? 0.99

01:14:46.000 Vomit. 0.99

01:14:46.000 Oh. 0.99

01:14:47.000 You don't say spew in America?

01:14:48.000 Yeah, you do, but I wasn't.

01:14:49.000 I thought maybe it meant something else to you.

01:14:51.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:14:52.000 Fucking spewing, mate. 1.00

01:14:53.000 Yeah, spew. 1.00

01:14:53.000 I spewed out. 1.00

01:14:55.000 Yeah, spewed.

01:14:56.000 That's what happened at Disney yesterday. 1.00

01:14:58.000 Fucking Walt Disney spewed all over me. 1.00

01:15:00.000 So they just threw up bones and shit? 1.00

01:15:03.000 Just threw up bones and stuff that it couldn't digest, but yeah. 0.99

01:15:06.000 End up lamb killer at the park.

01:15:08.000 It's a destructive animal, and they're so ruthlessly efficient in terms of how much food they can eat.

01:15:13.000 So a deer will walk along and it will pick, you know, it will just pick the tops off grass and the grass regrows, you know.

01:15:20.000 A pig will go through and eat that grass and it will turn it over and eat the roots and everything as well. 0.89

01:15:24.000 It causes a lot of erosion and then there's no regrowth because there's no roots in the ground. 1.00

01:15:29.000 Because they're greedy pigs. 1.00

01:15:30.000 They're greedy pigs. 1.00

01:15:31.000 There you go. 1.00

01:15:33.000 You know they're the number one cause of death on farms?

01:15:36.000 Really?

01:15:37.000 Yeah, apparently with domestic animals, people falling into pig pens.

01:15:41.000 And just into them.

01:15:43.000 They just...

01:15:43.000 They just devour.

01:15:45.000 And, you know, when you're dealing with these giant domestic pigs, they get fucking huge. 0.99

01:15:50.000 Massive, yeah. 0.99

01:15:51.000 Yeah, hundreds of pounds. 0.95

01:15:52.000 Yeah, in, like, western New South Wales when times get tough, which is, like, seems to be fucking all the time now. 0.63

01:15:58.000 But, um... 0.98

01:15:59.000 They'll get so desperate, like you'll shoot a pig, you're going for the farmer and you're just shooting them, you're not even really taking any meat off them because they're like, they're eating meat themselves and they're like skin and bones and disgusting. 0.88

01:16:12.000 It's more of like a cull mission and you'll come back in the afternoon and that pig will be completely skin and bones because the other pigs just get in there and just, and you'll hear them, you'll just hear them just scream and it's the most god-awful sound there is. 0.94

01:16:26.000 They cannibalise.

01:16:27.000 They cannibalise, yeah.

01:16:28.000 I was in Tohono Ranch, and we were walking by this really high grass.

01:16:32.000 The grass was like five foot high.

01:16:34.000 And we were only like maybe 10 yards away from these pigs fighting.

01:16:38.000 And I said to Ronella, I said, no, come on, man. 0.93

01:16:41.000 If you didn't know that those were pigs, if I told you there was demons in that grass, you would completely believe it. 0.97

01:16:47.000 It's like... 0.98

01:16:49.000 Oh, yeah, it's going ballistic.

01:16:51.000 Were you hunting them?

01:16:52.000 Yeah, it sounded like something from Lord of the Rings.

01:16:53.000 Oh, that's the best sound when you're hunting.

01:16:54.000 Yeah.

01:16:55.000 Yeah, it was great.

01:16:57.000 But it sounded like Lord of the Rings.

01:16:59.000 It sounded like some horrific scene in a monster movie.

01:17:02.000 Yeah, it sounded like an orc.

01:17:03.000 It really did.

01:17:04.000 I mean, how is that the same animal as those cute little things that Whitney Cummings is hanging around with? 0.99

01:17:11.000 Yeah, yeah, totally.

01:17:12.000 Because the one that she had was like all fluffy and sitting in her bed, cute.

01:17:16.000 Yeah, loving it.

01:17:16.000 She taught her how to go outside, go to the bathroom.

01:17:18.000 Was it a pig? 1.00

01:17:19.000 No, it was a pig. 0.98

01:17:20.000 That was the other thing she told me. 0.99

01:17:22.000 Apparently those little pigs are not real. 0.95

01:17:25.000 All they are is just underfed. 0.92

01:17:26.000 Yeah, right. 0.97

01:17:27.000 That's pretty fucking wrong. 1.00

01:17:28.000 That's fucked up. 1.00

01:17:29.000 Like when those people have those little tiny pigs, she's like, that's not real. 1.00

01:17:32.000 Yeah. 0.78

01:17:33.000 They're just, oh, it's a baby pig. 0.99

01:17:35.000 It's a tiny little pig. 0.97

01:17:36.000 It's just going to stay tiny. 0.99

01:17:37.000 No.

01:17:38.000 If you don't feed it...

01:17:40.000 It'll stay tiny.

01:17:41.000 How about when, remember when they had the kittens in the jars?

01:17:45.000 I think it was a Japanese thing or something.

01:17:47.000 What?

01:17:48.000 You've never seen that?

01:17:49.000 No.

01:17:49.000 They had the, like a little glass jar and they'd have a cat in the glass jar.

01:17:54.000 What?

01:17:55.000 I think they were always fake, but people were advertising it like, this is how you can have your cat. 1.00

01:18:00.000 Holy fuck. 0.99

01:18:01.000 Look that up, Jamie. 1.00

01:18:02.000 Keep the cat in the jar. 0.69

01:18:03.000 That's real?

01:18:04.000 There you go. 1.00

01:18:05.000 Fucking kitty cat. 1.00

01:18:06.000 No, they're fake, those ones. 1.00

01:18:08.000 That's fake.

01:18:10.000 Oh, what the fuck? 1.00

01:18:12.000 Look at that thing's eyes. 1.00

01:18:14.000 Okay, some of those look real.

01:18:17.000 So is it just for fun?

01:18:20.000 They're just for fun.

01:18:21.000 No, I thought there were some real ones where they had the lid on them and everything.

01:18:25.000 Well, you can guarantee someone's done that. 0.99

01:18:27.000 There you go, those fuckers that have got their face blurred out. 1.00

01:18:29.000 Oh, Jesus Christ. 1.00

01:18:32.000 They apologize for stuffing a kitten in a jar.

01:18:35.000 Sorry!

01:18:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:18:38.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

01:18:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:18:41.000 Yeah, people are capable of incredible cruelty. 1.00

01:18:44.000 Yeah.

01:18:45.000 That's why we need the other end of things.

01:18:47.000 That's why I say I can understand it.

01:18:49.000 You know, you need that other...

01:18:50.000 Like, I'm not extreme where I'm just, like, hunt everything.

01:18:53.000 But I'm sure there's a few people out there like that.

01:18:55.000 I've never met them.

01:18:56.000 Where they just, like, kill everything.

01:18:58.000 Then you need the other extreme where it's like, no, all animals are sacred.

01:19:02.000 Don't touch any animals.

01:19:03.000 You know, they can't be killed, you know. 1.00

01:19:04.000 And then try and find that middle ground where you're like, well, that's fucking ridiculous and that's ridiculous. 1.00

01:19:09.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:19:09.000 This is where I am. 0.99

01:19:10.000 I couldn't agree more.

01:19:11.000 I think that's the perfect way to put it.

01:19:13.000 I think a lot of those animal rights people, it comes from a good place.

01:19:21.000 Yeah, that's how I feel too.

01:19:22.000 They care about animals.

01:19:23.000 It comes from a good place.

01:19:24.000 But their understanding of population control and wildlife management and just the reality of human beings, I just don't think they're getting it.

01:19:33.000 With the mountain lion thing.

01:19:35.000 One of the things they found with mountain lions in California is that almost 50% of their diet is domestic pets.

01:19:41.000 Go to NatureIsMetal.com, my all-time favorite Instagram page.

01:19:46.000 I think he got his page back.

01:19:48.000 Either he got his page back or they... 1.00

01:19:51.000 He had to open up another one, but that guy is the most fucked up. 1.00

01:19:55.000 Instagram's sensitizing some shit at the moment. 1.00

01:19:58.000 Kim had a video, it's only like a 15-20 second video of her. 0.99

01:20:03.000 It was carrying a white-tailed deer out in Texas.

01:20:06.000 There was no blood on it or nothing.

01:20:07.000 You couldn't see that it had been gutted or anything like that.

01:20:10.000 And they removed it.

01:20:12.000 Said it was violence.

01:20:13.000 Okay, this is Nature is Metal underscore...

01:20:18.000 Yeah, the other account's not up anymore?

01:20:21.000 Well, click on the most recent one, that lion image.

01:20:25.000 When is that from?

01:20:26.000 Yeah, December 20th.

01:20:28.000 No, it's new.

01:20:29.000 See if they're back up.

01:20:32.000 Yeah, don't go to nature is metal underscore.

01:20:34.000 Just go to nature is metal.

01:20:36.000 Oh, metal.

01:20:38.000 I thought it said mental.

01:20:40.000 Metal.

01:20:42.000 Yeah.

01:20:44.000 So that's it.

01:20:45.000 That's the real one.

01:20:46.000 So scroll up.

01:20:47.000 Keep going.

01:20:48.000 And that's it right there with the car.

01:20:50.000 This is the quick and the dead.

01:20:51.000 This is a Florida panther in this guy's driveway.

01:20:55.000 Snatches up a house pat. 1.00

01:20:57.000 Watch this shit. 1.00

01:20:58.000 This is what the fuck you have. 1.00

01:21:00.000 This is what the fuck happens. 1.00

01:21:01.000 So this guy's got his security camera running. 0.99

01:21:03.000 Bam! 1.00

01:21:04.000 Oh, damn! 0.99

01:21:05.000 That's a wrap. 1.00

01:21:06.000 That's a wrap, little fella. 1.00

01:21:07.000 Is that a dog or a cat? 1.00

01:21:09.000 Fuck, it nearly looks like a... 1.00

01:21:10.000 It's a cat. 1.00

01:21:11.000 It's a kitty cat. 1.00

01:21:12.000 Yeah, kill the cat. 1.00

01:21:13.000 Everyone likes a bit of pussy. 1.00

01:21:16.000 How dare you? 1.00

01:21:17.000 There's a growing population of these things.

01:21:20.000 They're endangered, but they're there.

01:21:22.000 And, you know, basically, I mean, it's a subspecies, I guess, but it's basically the same thing as a mountain lion.

01:21:28.000 Yeah, right.

01:21:29.000 Look at them.

01:21:31.000 So the first time I did a little bit of research in Google, it just comes up that cougars are endangered in America.

01:21:38.000 Yeah.

01:21:40.000 But when you start looking into it, they're not at all.

01:21:42.000 They're on the least concerned list in America because the population's thriving.

01:21:46.000 And then when I spoke to DNR in Colorado about the cougar as well, they were saying that their populations continued to rise.

01:21:55.000 Even with the tags that they've given out, their population just continues to rise.

01:22:00.000 Yeah.

01:22:01.000 And without dogs, you're just not going to hunt them.

01:22:04.000 No, that's right, yeah.

01:22:05.000 You might get lucky and stumble across one that's not paying attention to you.

01:22:09.000 I'd love to.

01:22:10.000 You'd want to have limitless time, though.

01:22:14.000 That's the difference.

01:22:15.000 I'd like to have limitless time and then just be like, okay, I'm dedicating a whole month to stalking cougars.

01:22:21.000 Yeah, well, that's the knock on bear hunting as well.

01:22:24.000 Bear hunting in the 1990s, they outlawed dogs in California.

01:22:29.000 You can still hunt black bears.

01:22:30.000 I guess... 0.98

01:22:32.000 Black bears are more accepted as a nuisance if the population grows because they'll find your garbage.

01:22:39.000 They will save them as well.

01:22:41.000 But it's not just that.

01:22:42.000 Once they find your garbage, that's where they go.

01:22:44.000 They keep coming back.

01:22:45.000 Day in, day out.

01:22:46.000 They have a pattern and they develop these habits.

01:22:50.000 But they stopped using bears.

01:22:52.000 They stopped using dogs rather than hunt bears in California.

01:22:55.000 And then they stopped using baiting.

01:22:57.000 So those two things are illegal.

01:22:59.000 There's no baiting and there's no dogs.

01:23:00.000 So good luck bear hunting.

01:23:02.000 Especially with a bow.

01:23:03.000 Yeah, pretty tough.

01:23:04.000 Yeah.

01:23:05.000 The baiting one's another one.

01:23:06.000 Like, people don't like baiting.

01:23:07.000 And I get it.

01:23:08.000 You know, we've done it.

01:23:09.000 It's not the same.

01:23:11.000 No, it's not the same.

01:23:12.000 It doesn't feel...

01:23:12.000 It's not as good.

01:23:13.000 Yeah.

01:23:13.000 I did it that one time with you.

01:23:16.000 Yeah.

01:23:16.000 And then...

01:23:17.000 And I was sort of like that...

01:23:18.000 It was...

01:23:18.000 It was still good.

01:23:20.000 It was still cool.

01:23:21.000 Yeah.

01:23:21.000 And there's a tag in place and there's a conservation act in place, but it just...

01:23:26.000 I've got no desire to go back.

01:23:28.000 I've done that now.

01:23:29.000 That's cool.

01:23:30.000 And that conservation is very important for the elk population, the moose population, the deer population, because they kill an estimated 50% of all moose calves, elk calves, deer fawns.

01:23:41.000 It's all black bears.

01:23:42.000 Yeah, totally.

01:23:43.000 And they're cannibals too. 0.95

01:23:45.000 They kill cubs. 1.00

01:23:46.000 Yeah, crazy.

01:23:48.000 I watched this one the other day, because you hear people, like, if a bear charges me, I'll climb a tree. 0.99

01:23:53.000 And the black bear climbs a tree, like, I mean, fucking high, dude. 0.99

01:23:57.000 Like, runs it. 0.99

01:23:58.000 You've seen it.

01:23:59.000 Yeah, they run up a tree.

01:24:00.000 And then there's a cinnamon black bear, and she's got cubs, and she goes so fast up that, dude.

01:24:06.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:24:07.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:24:08.000 You can't climb up a tree to get away from a bear. 1.00

01:24:10.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:24:10.000 Just get the fuck out of here. 1.00

01:24:11.000 Yeah, you're done. 0.99

01:24:11.000 The big ones just don't want to do it anymore. 0.99

01:24:14.000 Yeah.

01:24:14.000 But they could still do it.

01:24:14.000 They could still do it.

01:24:15.000 Yeah, they could still do it.

01:24:17.000 Like, the idea is like, oh, the big ones won't chase you up a tree.

01:24:19.000 Yeah.

01:24:19.000 When you see the speed that they go up a tree, then you can imagine the speed that they come across land.

01:24:25.000 Yeah.

01:24:26.000 You know, and it's just like, because I always say, I always tell people about that one that was sleeping on an elk kill that I had, a grizzly.

01:24:32.000 We showed that video the other day.

01:24:34.000 Did you?

01:24:34.000 Yeah, we showed it on the podcast the other day.

01:24:37.000 And I remember I yelled at that grizzly, the one that was sleeping on the elk carcass, and it fucking disappeared so fast and quietly, dude. 1.00

01:24:45.000 And I'm like, if you don't have eyes on one coming at you, you don't know it's going to come at you until you hit, until it's on your fucking eating your face off. 0.99

01:24:53.000 Their pads are so soft. 1.00

01:24:54.000 Yeah.

01:24:54.000 The paths of their feet are so soft in order to sneak up on things.

01:24:58.000 I remember the first time I went bear hunting with Cam, and one was walking in.

01:25:02.000 He goes, right there, right there, right there.

01:25:04.000 I turned to look.

01:25:05.000 I'm like, it's not making any noise.

01:25:06.000 He's like, they're so quiet.

01:25:08.000 Oh, this is that video, yeah.

01:25:10.000 Yeah, here it is.

01:25:11.000 We're going up, running, dude.

01:25:13.000 Galloping up the tree.

01:25:14.000 Running.

01:25:15.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:25:16.000 Some fucking scary shit. 1.00

01:25:17.000 It doesn't stop there either and ends up coming. 1.00

01:25:19.000 And they fucking hang on, too. 0.99

01:25:21.000 And that's a black bear with cubs. 0.99

01:25:22.000 So you can imagine that situation with the grizzly and her cubs. 0.99

01:25:26.000 So fucking scary. 0.97

01:25:27.000 And so that's a color phase? 0.99

01:25:30.000 That looks like a color phase.

01:25:31.000 And the one on the top is the black bear?

01:25:33.000 Is the cub?

01:25:34.000 No, that looks like a full-grown black bear.

01:25:38.000 The color phase has got a cub back up the mountain with a... 1.00

01:25:43.000 Yeah, that's some crazy shit. 1.00

01:25:45.000 Oi, crocodiles don't fucking climb trees. 1.00

01:25:49.000 That's what I heard. 1.00

01:25:50.000 I heard they don't.

01:25:52.000 When are we doing this?

01:25:53.000 Someone started the petition, eh? 1.00

01:25:55.000 Fucking Joe Rogan needs to hunt Australia. 0.99

01:25:57.000 Yeah, you keep trying to get me out there. 1.00

01:25:59.000 You got snakes too, though, bro. 0.99

01:26:00.000 You got spiders and shit. 1.00

01:26:01.000 Okay, let's fucking... 1.00

01:26:02.000 Let's go over some shit here. 1.00

01:26:04.000 The whole season in Australia, the whole season in Australia, I've seen two snakes. 0.99

01:26:09.000 One of them not poisonous, like a red-bellied black snake.

01:26:12.000 Not going to harm you.

01:26:13.000 A friendly snake.

01:26:14.000 The other one, a barely poisonous snake.

01:26:17.000 The whole season in Australia...

01:26:18.000 What does that mean, barely?

01:26:19.000 Not very poisonous.

01:26:21.000 Might kill a kid or a dog.

01:26:22.000 Spiders you guys have, though. 0.98

01:26:24.000 I didn't...

01:26:24.000 No, no.

01:26:25.000 This giant. 1.00

01:26:26.000 They're fucking hunters. 1.00

01:26:27.000 They're not going to hurt you. 1.00

01:26:28.000 Thank you.

01:26:29.000 Talk to them. 1.00

01:26:30.000 Fucking stay out of it. 0.99

01:26:31.000 Hey, one thing I wanted to ask you about is the thylacine, the Tasmanian tiger. 0.99

01:26:36.000 Yeah.

01:26:36.000 I read that there was credible reports by people in the woods that they might have seen one.

01:26:43.000 I wish.

01:26:45.000 I don't think so, though.

01:26:46.000 But it's so remote, right?

01:26:47.000 There's so many cameras now.

01:26:49.000 There's guys with scouting cameras that are putting it over deer wallows and stuff, like places that they would come in to drink.

01:26:56.000 That was a big animal, right, wasn't it?

01:26:58.000 Yeah.

01:26:58.000 How big did they get?

01:26:59.000 Like 100 pounds, something like that?

01:27:00.000 Something like that.

01:27:01.000 Might be a bit bigger than that.

01:27:02.000 What a cool-looking animal, too.

01:27:03.000 Oh, dude.

01:27:04.000 And their mouths come open like this.

01:27:05.000 There it is.

01:27:07.000 Scientists hunt for extinct Tasmanian tiger after sightings in Australia.

01:27:11.000 Yeah, that's probably what I saw.

01:27:12.000 I wish.

01:27:14.000 What is that article from?

01:27:16.000 What year?

01:27:17.000 Last year, 2017. Oh, really?

01:27:19.000 Interesting.

01:27:20.000 A lot of the extinction was driven from people, right?

01:27:24.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:27:25.000 Because they're fucking meat eaters, so they'd come in and start eating sheep or whatever. 1.00

01:27:28.000 They'd get shot by farmers and stuff like that, which is a shame. 1.00

01:27:31.000 And I'm sure they didn't realize they were doing it at the time, but...

01:27:34.000 They push them to extinction.

01:27:36.000 If there's one thing that we should bring back from extinction, if it's possible, I believe they should be brought back.

01:27:41.000 If it's possible, right?

01:27:43.000 If they have some DNA, because it would be nice to have some sort of an animal like that that could knock down some of the populations of kangaroos and deer.

01:27:54.000 They probably wouldn't.

01:27:55.000 They'd probably just come in and devastate livestock populations and people's pets. 0.99

01:27:59.000 It's all fenced in.

01:28:00.000 But it is a shame.

01:28:02.000 But let me get back to why you need to come to Australia.

01:28:06.000 Two snakes all year in Australia. 0.99

01:28:08.000 Fucking 17 snakes in the first month in America, dude. 0.99

01:28:12.000 17. Aaron Snyder got bit the other day. 0.99

01:28:14.000 Did he?

01:28:15.000 Yeah, bit his boot.

01:28:16.000 Really? 0.99

01:28:16.000 Yeah, I think he was in North Carolina or some shit. 0.99

01:28:19.000 I forget where he was. 0.97

01:28:20.000 Somewhere in the south.

01:28:21.000 My buddy Jace, so this was the first hunt that I did when I come to America.

01:28:26.000 We flew into Idaho and we drove straight down to southern Colorado to hunt Pronghorn.

01:28:30.000 And we're driving into the property at, like, 2am in the morning, and there's a pronghorn just standing on the side of the road, you know, and it's just, like, it's dazed, you know?

01:28:39.000 So my buddy Jace pulls up, he walks over to it, and, like, literally touches it on the head, like it's, like, it's just, like, walking down the road, and we're like, did it get hit by a car?

01:28:49.000 Next minute I see him jump back, a rattlesnake had bit the...

01:28:54.000 Wow.

01:28:55.000 Wow.

01:29:22.000 Fuck America. 1.00

01:29:23.000 Australia is so much safer. 1.00

01:29:25.000 A friend of mine was hiking and he almost stepped on a rattlesnake and he jumped back and then realized there was a nest of them. 1.00

01:29:34.000 Holy shit, yeah. 0.99

01:29:35.000 And there was little ones surrounding them. 0.99

01:29:37.000 They were all over the place. 1.00

01:29:38.000 He was like, fuck! 1.00

01:29:39.000 He was just jumping, hopping around one leg after another. 1.00

01:29:41.000 Crazy.

01:29:42.000 Yeah.

01:29:43.000 I actually had...

01:29:45.000 Apparently that happens all the time.

01:29:46.000 Yeah, it does, yeah.

01:29:47.000 And tarantulas there, dude.

01:29:49.000 Everywhere.

01:29:50.000 There was just tarantulas walking over the ground everywhere. 0.96

01:29:52.000 It was so fucking cool. 0.74

01:29:53.000 The bold effort to prove the Tasmanian tiger is still out there. 0.93

01:29:57.000 Wildlife biologist Forrest Galante has brought one species back from the dead and he wants to do the same with the Tasmanian tiger. 1.00

01:30:04.000 What the fuck has he brought back from the dead, this goddamn Frankenstein? 0.99

01:30:07.000 Frankenstein. 1.00

01:30:08.000 Unable to play.

01:30:09.000 The Cuban Solenodon is one of the most curious animals on the planet.

01:30:15.000 Small, shrewd...

01:30:16.000 shrewd?

01:30:17.000 Must be shrewd-like creature.

01:30:19.000 Oh, it's a mammal.

01:30:19.000 It's a mammal, but a highly venomous one.

01:30:21.000 Fuck yeah, bring that back. 0.99

01:30:23.000 It wasn't a single specimen found that was thought to be lost forever, then unexpectedly three were caught just a few years later, the extinct species marked on. 0.99

01:30:32.000 So that may be the case with the Tasmanian tiger.

01:30:36.000 It'd be awesome.

01:30:38.000 I hope so.

01:30:38.000 Okay, so here it is.

01:30:39.000 Galante's a wildlife biologist made his life's mission to search for animals that have wrongly been deemed extinct and among those species on his list is the Tasmanian tiger.

01:30:50.000 The difficulty leads to these... 0.97

01:30:52.000 Like, who the fuck has seen one? 0.99

01:30:53.000 Keep scrolling. 0.98

01:30:54.000 See if anybody, like, legit seen one.

01:30:56.000 He's been traveled around the world searching for evidence of species like Tasmanian dival Pachylemur and the Newfoundland white wolf still exist.

01:31:06.000 Hundreds of species deemed extinct worldwide annually.

01:31:09.000 This process isn't foolproof, and every now and then, animals are rediscovered after they were thought to be gone forever, but proving the animal's still out there is no easy feat.

01:31:18.000 Hmm.

01:31:19.000 I wonder.

01:31:20.000 Huh.

01:31:22.000 I hope so.

01:31:24.000 Yeah.

01:31:24.000 Cool.

01:31:25.000 Captured footage of a Zanzibar leopard, which is thought to be extinct for 25 years due to persecution by local hunters in the Zanzibar archipelago in Tasmania.

01:31:37.000 Tanzania, rather, excuse me.

01:31:39.000 Wow. 0.95

01:31:41.000 That would be fucking pretty dope if they actually did find that thing. 0.95

01:31:44.000 It's a cool looking animal, you know? 0.97

01:31:46.000 Yeah, they can't be in good numbers anymore, I know that much.

01:31:48.000 Must be tiny, tiny numbers.

01:31:50.000 Yeah.

01:31:51.000 Like an animal like that, like, where did they live?

01:31:55.000 Tasmania.

01:31:56.000 That's where the Tasmanian Tiger?

01:31:57.000 And Tasmania is where?

01:31:59.000 Down the bottom of Australia.

01:32:00.000 The bottom.

01:32:01.000 Yeah, so it's a separate island.

01:32:03.000 Oh.

01:32:04.000 But it's that tiny little triangle that's down the bottom.

01:32:06.000 Absolute beautiful island.

01:32:07.000 That's the only place they lived?

01:32:09.000 I believe so.

01:32:10.000 How big is the island?

01:32:11.000 Actually, they might have been on the mainland, and I think that's where the sightings have been.

01:32:15.000 Oh.

01:32:17.000 Oh wow, it's big.

01:32:18.000 Tassie.

01:32:19.000 How big is that place? 0.99

01:32:21.000 I don't know, fucking big enough. 0.99

01:32:24.000 They don't allow any bow hunting there, so I've never gone. 0.99

01:32:27.000 Do they allow hunting?

01:32:28.000 Yeah, I think you can hunt with a gun for fallow deer.

01:32:31.000 Why do they make you use a gun? 0.99

01:32:32.000 I don't fucking know. 0.99

01:32:35.000 Australia's got some weird rules with guns. 0.99

01:32:37.000 Oh yeah.

01:32:37.000 They bought up all the guns after a mass shooting, right?

01:32:41.000 Is that what happened?

01:32:42.000 Well, not all of them.

01:32:42.000 If you were a licensed holder, like you had a shooter's license, and you had a reason to have a gun, then you could still keep your guns.

01:32:51.000 So you had to be a member of a gun club.

01:32:54.000 I don't own any guns, but you had to be a member of a gun club.

01:32:57.000 I don't own any guns in Australia.

01:33:06.000 Right. 0.99

01:33:19.000 Fucking heaps. 1.00

01:33:19.000 Are you going to ban baseball bats? 1.00

01:33:21.000 Right.

01:33:21.000 How many people have been killed with a kitchen knife?

01:33:23.000 Are you going to ban kitchen knives?

01:33:25.000 So I think if you've got a legitimate reason to have a gun, you know, like you don't have a criminal record, you don't have a mental illness or something like that, you should have a right to have a gun.

01:33:33.000 Right.

01:33:33.000 So you basically do a safety course and training in Australia, and if you've got that reason to have a rifle, then you can have it.

01:33:41.000 No semi-automatics.

01:33:43.000 There's a bunch of rifles and there's a bunch of guns that you can't have in Australia.

01:33:46.000 It's pretty much like bolt action, lever action, and those rules might have changed as well.

01:33:51.000 I'm no expert on it, obviously.

01:33:52.000 Mm-hmm. 0.99

01:33:53.000 Whereas in America, every fucking one's got a gun, eh? 0.99

01:33:56.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:33:56.000 Like, everyone I meet's got a gun. 1.00

01:33:58.000 I've got a gun too.

01:33:59.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:33:59.000 Because if everyone else has got a gun, I want a fucking gun too. 1.00

01:34:02.000 It's true. 1.00

01:34:03.000 Isn't it true?

01:34:05.000 And my gun's for protection when I go into the wilderness for bears.

01:34:09.000 Right. 1.00

01:34:09.000 Or if I'm fucking in some weird destination and someone comes in and tries to fucking rape or murder my family, I'm going to use it. 1.00

01:34:14.000 Right. 1.00

01:34:15.000 And, uh...

01:34:17.000 Yeah, it's just funny like that.

01:34:18.000 But it's crazy to think, and I know it changes from place to place, that anyone could have a gun.

01:34:23.000 Because it's like you're right.

01:34:25.000 And to a certain degree, I agree with that.

01:34:29.000 But as well, I think you lose that right. 1.00

01:34:32.000 If you've got a criminal record, you've got a mental illness or something like that, then fuck. 1.00

01:34:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:34:37.000 Exactly.

01:34:38.000 We want good guys with guns, not bad guys with guns.

01:34:40.000 But banning guns isn't going to stop the bad guys from having guns.

01:34:43.000 Well, at this point, it's like trying to take pee out of the pool. 0.98

01:34:47.000 Yeah, it's fucking so... 0.99

01:34:48.000 There's just too many of them. 0.98

01:34:50.000 How?

01:34:51.000 When you hunt in Australia, you're not allowed to use a bolt-action rifle?

01:34:56.000 You can use a bolt-action rifle.

01:34:58.000 You can.

01:34:58.000 It's like the automatic, semi-automatic.

01:35:00.000 Oh, like an AR? Yeah.

01:35:02.000 You can use an AR? Yeah, I think pump-actions are being taken out now, things like that, yeah.

01:35:07.000 Huh.

01:35:08.000 Yeah, because I would feel like, especially with population control, something like fallow deer, if you have that many of them, and I know there's places that are just erupting with them, you would have to shoot them, right? 0.68

01:35:17.000 Yeah, totally.

01:35:18.000 A lot of places, it's like the whole Californian thing.

01:35:23.000 They're still getting killed, but it's just a professional hitman that's doing it now.

01:35:27.000 There's not the recreation behind it. 0.99

01:35:29.000 And in Australia, a lot of the times, a good example is actually across the pond in New Zealand, where they're like, fuck, we need to shoot 30,000 tar, you know, tar that live in the mountains there. 0.97

01:35:40.000 And because they're introduced, tar are introduced. 0.99

01:35:43.000 And I don't think there was a lot of hunters arguing at the time, and no one was really arguing that we needed to shoot some tar, but we wouldn't like fucking shoot 30,000 of them, because they shoot them from a helicopter and they leave them rot on the mountain. 0.99

01:35:55.000 They don't use any of it. 0.98

01:35:56.000 It's just a massive waste of resource.

01:35:58.000 You know, and it's like, they're never going to eradicate them all anyway.

01:36:02.000 Why would they want to shoot 30,000 of them?

01:36:04.000 Well, they're introduced, for starters.

01:36:06.000 Right. 0.99

01:36:06.000 And fucking politicians work off money and fucking having a job to do, so they make a lot of these things up, you know. 0.99

01:36:12.000 But I would think that the money would be in people paying to go hunt them. 1.00

01:36:16.000 Some of these towns live off hunters.

01:36:18.000 Like, the only reason that town is there, like, all their income is hunters coming in and hunting these destinations.

01:36:23.000 Yeah.

01:36:24.000 That's the reason why the animals are there in the first place, in New Zealand.

01:36:28.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:36:28.000 In New Zealand, they were all introduced by wealthy Europeans.

01:36:31.000 They wanted to make it like a hunting destination.

01:36:33.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:36:34.000 Which is so crazy.

01:36:35.000 They just threw a bunch of animals on the island.

01:36:36.000 This is our playground. 1.00

01:36:38.000 Yeah, like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:36:39.000 Well, New Zealand is happy for it now because they've got something to hunt. 0.99

01:36:42.000 They've got game animals.

01:36:43.000 Yeah.

01:36:43.000 But if they're truly causing that much damage, then yes, obviously, like, fin out the population.

01:36:48.000 But why not get hunters involved to do it?

01:36:50.000 Why not promote hunting, you know, where the meat gets used?

01:36:53.000 You know, where it's done properly and, you know, it benefits the communities.

01:36:56.000 Well, there's a lot of hunting destinations in New Zealand where people go to that are high-fence places, which is a little weird.

01:37:02.000 Yeah.

01:37:02.000 Because they're like, just, I mean, even if it's a couple hundred acres or a couple thousand acres, they're fenced in and the animals aren't going anywhere.

01:37:09.000 It's just different.

01:37:10.000 It's like what we're talking about before, where there's like shallow fun...

01:37:13.000 Yeah.

01:37:13.000 Like, I've never done it, but I'd see that as, like, a shallow fun.

01:37:16.000 And then there's meaningful fun. 0.99

01:37:17.000 Fucking walk the mountain. 0.99

01:37:19.000 Find your own spot. 1.00

01:37:21.000 Yeah.

01:37:21.000 You know?

01:37:22.000 Well, actually go into the wild.

01:37:25.000 Don't fence the wild in and make it the not wild.

01:37:28.000 Don't make it the domestic.

01:37:29.000 The hard bit about saying that you're a cockat if you do it is it benefits some wildlife. 0.98

01:37:35.000 Like, there's gazelle and shit that have been brought back from... 0.99

01:37:39.000 Sure. 0.91

01:37:50.000 Well, there's also different sizes of these partitions. 0.89

01:37:54.000 So, like, if you're in a place, like, there's some places in Texas that are 10,000 acres, like, look, that's so far beyond that animal's wild range that you might as well be in a wild, even if there's a fence, you know, 80 miles in that direction, when the fuck are you ever going to get to that fence if you're a deer? 0.94

01:38:11.000 You're not going to. 0.95

01:38:12.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:38:13.000 I think I'm, maybe I'm a little bit closed-minded on it.

01:38:15.000 It's the same thing to me.

01:38:17.000 It's like ideologically the same thing.

01:38:19.000 I agree with you.

01:38:20.000 I've seen those places.

01:38:23.000 It seems weird.

01:38:24.000 It's like Jurassic Park.

01:38:25.000 You go through these giant gates and inside those animals are fenced in.

01:38:28.000 They're never getting out.

01:38:30.000 You know they're in there.

01:38:31.000 There's no mystery.

01:38:32.000 No, that's right.

01:38:32.000 There's no mystery.

01:38:33.000 That's what it is.

01:38:34.000 And I like...

01:38:35.000 I like the failure in hunting as much as I like the success, if you call killing an animal the success bit. 0.99

01:38:41.000 I like the opportunity, and you do everything in your fucking power still. 0.99

01:38:47.000 You work your ass off. 1.00

01:38:48.000 Your fucking feet are bleeding if they have to to get to the end of it. 1.00

01:38:51.000 But I like the idea that you can still fail on a hunt. 1.00

01:38:54.000 And I like failing on a hunt sometimes because it makes you realize, fuck, This is hard. 0.99

01:39:00.000 So the next time... 1.00

01:39:01.000 Imagine everything you shot at, you just smoked. 0.99

01:39:03.000 I'd fucking give it away in a day. 0.99

01:39:05.000 Right. 0.99

01:39:05.000 I wouldn't be interested anymore. 0.99

01:39:07.000 But it would be like farming.

01:39:08.000 That's right. 0.62

01:39:09.000 I like that failure because it makes you realize how fucking awesome it is when you get something. 0.85

01:39:14.000 Well, it also... 0.88

01:39:14.000 It's different... 0.88

01:39:17.000 Yeah.

01:39:45.000 And that's what it should take, too, because we're taking an animal's life, so it should take that effort. 0.99

01:39:51.000 You put so much heart and soul into it that even if you cut the meat up and it's ruddy and tough, you're like, fuck, this is delicious. 0.99

01:39:58.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:39:58.000 Well, you were talking about your elk hunt in New Mexico this year and how difficult it was, and you guys were out there for over a month. 0.99

01:40:04.000 Yeah.

01:40:05.000 Yeah. 0.94

01:40:05.000 Well, we did, we did, uh, Oregon, we did New Mexico and we did Montana for elk and we're just like busting our ass the whole time, you know? 0.94

01:40:16.000 And then I ended up getting one that it was like the one, I actually really just wanted Kim to get a shoot a bull, her first bull, you know, cause she's been going at it. 0.99

01:40:24.000 And the one afternoon that she took off because she was doing some homeschooling with the kids and trying to get on top of all that, the perfect opportunity popped up and ended up shooting this bull and then we never had a good opportunity again, you know, which sucked.

01:40:38.000 But the thing is that's made her hungrier for it this season.

01:40:42.000 She realises how hard it is, how difficult it is, and she'll appreciate it much more.

01:40:46.000 That's what it should be.

01:40:47.000 Well, it's cool that she is determined, that it's not discouraging her. 0.97

01:40:51.000 The difficulty, oftentimes for a lot of people, that difficulty, because you're out there seven days, ten days, your feet are killing you, you're exhausted, and you're like, I'm just going to go to the fucking Super Bowl. 0.96

01:41:01.000 Yeah, totally. 0.91

01:41:03.000 I'm going to get a rifle.

01:41:05.000 Kim's actually a really good example of what a lot of your audience would be, because Kim's really been that city girl.

01:41:12.000 That's just been her life.

01:41:14.000 And then... 1.00

01:41:16.000 It took about seven years to convince her to eat fucking venison, game meat. 1.00

01:41:21.000 Really? 1.00

01:41:21.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:41:22.000 Wow.

01:41:22.000 And how I did it was I shot a deer and it was just like a nice healthy young deer and I cut the back straps in the cutlets.

01:41:30.000 I think you guys call them tomahawk steaks.

01:41:33.000 So we call them cutlets. 0.96

01:41:34.000 I cut it in the cutlets and it just looked like lamb cutlets, dude.

01:41:37.000 And I cooked up these lamb cutlets and I served it. 0.99

01:41:40.000 And she fucking loved it. 0.98

01:41:42.000 Like, her and the kids were just like, this is delicious. 0.99

01:41:44.000 I think I actually only had my eldest boy hunter at the time.

01:41:47.000 Like, this is delicious and they loved it.

01:41:49.000 And then I'm like, that's venison.

01:41:51.000 That's deer.

01:41:52.000 Because it was just the image they hated.

01:41:53.000 I had no idea what the meat tastes like.

01:41:55.000 She had no idea.

01:41:56.000 The image of shooting a cute little deer?

01:41:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:41:58.000 Is that it?

01:41:58.000 And now it's the opposite where she doesn't feel as comfortable eating an animal that she doesn't know about.

01:42:05.000 You know, because if we put venison in the fridge, freezer, like it either goes past just Kim's hands or my hands, that's it.

01:42:12.000 You know where the animal come from, you know that it was healthy, you know, everything like that.

01:42:17.000 And then cooking it and eating it, and she feels a lot more...

01:42:21.000 Yeah.

01:42:31.000 Yeah.

01:42:40.000 My littlest daughter loves fishing.

01:42:42.000 Loves it.

01:42:43.000 And loves that we go fishing together and we caught yellowtail in Hawaii and cooked it.

01:42:49.000 Well, I had the chef actually cook it.

01:42:51.000 In turn, we stayed at a hotel and, you know, you bring it to the chef at the restaurant and he would...

01:42:57.000 Made sashimi out of it and made ceviche and it was so good.

01:43:01.000 But she loves it.

01:43:03.000 She just loves it.

01:43:04.000 She caught something and brought it in and she wants everyone to know that you're eating something that she caught.

01:43:10.000 Yeah.

01:43:12.000 It's so cool.

01:43:13.000 That's a good feeling.

01:43:15.000 Well, it's also, I'm connecting her with what a fish is.

01:43:18.000 She likes sushi.

01:43:20.000 She's had sushi before.

01:43:21.000 Now she's having sushi that she was there when the thing died.

01:43:25.000 She caught it.

01:43:26.000 She pulled it out of the ocean.

01:43:28.000 We took the hook out of its mouth.

01:43:30.000 We filleted it.

01:43:31.000 The whole deal.

01:43:33.000 She saw every step of the way.

01:43:36.000 You think there's still a connection in people that sparks up again when they do something?

01:43:42.000 Because we've done that for so long.

01:43:43.000 Forever.

01:43:44.000 Forever.

01:43:44.000 I think when you catch a fish, when it's on the, like, the excitement, like, it doesn't necessarily even make sense if there's not some sort of a genetic component to it.

01:43:53.000 Yeah.

01:43:54.000 Because the excitement is so visceral.

01:43:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:43:56.000 It's so, like, it's genetic.

01:43:58.000 Yeah, without that, it's like, what do you do?

01:43:59.000 I'm pulling in a line.

01:44:00.000 It's got some weight on it.

01:44:01.000 Something's spinning, you know, twiggling on the end.

01:44:03.000 First of all, she wouldn't let anyone help her.

01:44:07.000 She, like, wanted to do it. 1.00

01:44:08.000 She's fucking eight. 0.99

01:44:10.000 And she's got a 10-pound yellowtail. 1.00

01:44:12.000 And this thing's...

01:44:14.000 And I'm helping her by holding on to the rod.

01:44:16.000 That's all I'm doing because it's getting yanked out of her hand.

01:44:19.000 You know, so I'm holding the rod to make sure it doesn't...

01:44:22.000 And she's got two hands on the crank and she's... 1.00

01:44:26.000 But she wouldn't give up.

01:44:27.000 I go, do you want me to help you?

01:44:28.000 She's like, no! 0.99

01:44:29.000 That's awesome.

01:44:30.000 Yeah, she was so determined because when she did do it and brought it in, the thrill was so powerful.

01:44:35.000 She wanted to be the one that brought it in.

01:44:37.000 Yeah.

01:44:38.000 It's so cool, yeah.

01:44:39.000 I really believe there's this ancient connection.

01:44:42.000 100%.

01:44:42.000 Yeah, and it's like with hunting.

01:44:44.000 I do hunting a lot now, so...

01:44:47.000 I feel like I'm in my element, but even the first time that I shot something and I was cutting it up for meat, I felt so comfortable doing it straight away.

01:44:56.000 It's like I've done this a million times before.

01:45:00.000 A lot of people say the same thing.

01:45:02.000 A lot of people say the same thing.

01:45:03.000 Brian Callen, in fact, said the same thing, and he and I went hunting for the first time, and he's like, it just seems like something we've always done.

01:45:09.000 Yeah.

01:45:10.000 There's a memory in our DNA. I mean, this is how we've survived.

01:45:14.000 It was a great thrill. 0.99

01:45:16.000 If you shot a deer 10,000, 20,000 years ago and you managed to bring that back to the village, like, holy shit, everybody's eating good. 0.99

01:45:25.000 We're going to get by. 0.99

01:45:26.000 We're going to survive our children.

01:45:28.000 We're going to get nutrition. 0.99

01:45:29.000 Yeah, there's this deep and meaningful feeling and it's not like you shot something, you're like, yeah, yeah, I fucking shot it. 0.96

01:45:34.000 It's not that feeling. 0.58

01:45:35.000 No, you feel excited, you feel like, yes, yes, yes.

01:45:40.000 But it's a different kind of excitement.

01:45:43.000 It's sustenance, you're going to get nutrients, you're going to feed your family, you're going to...

01:45:52.000 It's all because you did it the way you did it, especially bow hunting.

01:45:56.000 You know how difficult it is.

01:45:57.000 And you pulled it off.

01:45:58.000 There's this thrill of success.

01:46:01.000 And then there's this deep connection with your meat.

01:46:03.000 When I get an elk, I love eating that stuff.

01:46:07.000 So when I get one, I'm like, now?

01:46:10.000 Okay, good.

01:46:11.000 Now I've got meat.

01:46:12.000 I've got meat for months.

01:46:13.000 And my friends have meat.

01:46:15.000 I have a gang of comedian friends that are eating elk all the time now because I give them sausages and steaks and I teach them.

01:46:23.000 Like my friend Tom Papa I've taught him how to cook elk roasts.

01:46:31.000 He's like, what do I do?

01:46:32.000 I'm like, you got to keep it low and slow.

01:46:34.000 You want like 275 degrees, get it to an internal temperature, around 135, somewhere around then.

01:46:40.000 Then you pull it, sear it on the outside, let it sit for 10 minutes.

01:46:44.000 He calls me up a couple hours later. 0.99

01:46:45.000 Holy shit! 0.99

01:46:46.000 I'm like, yeah. 0.99

01:46:48.000 That ain't like anything else you're going to eat anywhere.

01:46:50.000 It's funny.

01:46:51.000 Because the hunt starts...

01:46:52.000 Well, the hunt probably starts here for you because you practice and shoot your target.

01:46:56.000 And then you go through all the preparation.

01:46:57.000 You go through the hunt.

01:46:59.000 You're successful. 0.50

01:47:00.000 You kill the animal.

01:47:01.000 The hunt doesn't end at killing the animal.

01:47:03.000 No.

01:47:03.000 That hunt continues to go.

01:47:05.000 You're eating that animal on your plate.

01:47:07.000 That's the feeling that I get.

01:47:09.000 Yeah.

01:47:09.000 You know, it's like, and that sometimes I'm like, it's like, why people call me a hunter?

01:47:14.000 I'm just a human.

01:47:14.000 This is a human thing to do.

01:47:16.000 Right.

01:47:16.000 Like, go out, catch your own, cook it, eat it, survive, continue.

01:47:20.000 It is weird that it's so, it's rare now.

01:47:23.000 Yeah.

01:47:23.000 It's so, how rare is it in Australia, like, population-wise?

01:47:26.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:47:27.000 Fuck all. 1.00

01:47:29.000 There's not a lot of hunters. 1.00

01:47:30.000 I feel like there is because I'm in the hunting community, so I know a lot of hunters.

01:47:35.000 But if I go to any given person's house, that's not...

01:47:40.000 Most of my friends are hunters as well now, but if, say, I go to one of Kim's friends' houses, there's no hunters in that house.

01:47:46.000 Right.

01:47:47.000 You know, and then I'll go to a workplace.

01:47:48.000 There's no hunters in that workplace.

01:47:50.000 Like, it doesn't come up.

01:47:51.000 No one's...

01:47:52.000 They're like, oh, it's so weird what you do.

01:47:54.000 You know, it's not...

01:47:55.000 It's not like that.

01:47:57.000 Even though it's a part of my family's heritage, like my grandfather, he'd go out trapping, my uncles would go out trapping, my dad would do a bit of hunting.

01:48:06.000 Not bow hunting, it was different, you know.

01:48:08.000 And it was almost like it wasn't even called hunting back then.

01:48:11.000 That's what I always think about our ancestors, like hunting's almost like a modern word that we made up.

01:48:16.000 Yeah.

01:48:16.000 Because it would have just been something they do.

01:48:18.000 It's just been normal.

01:48:19.000 When you're hunting, but everybody does it.

01:48:21.000 Exactly.

01:48:21.000 When you wash your clothes, do you call yourself a clothes washer?

01:48:24.000 Pull this thing in front of you so it doesn't...

01:48:26.000 No, like this way.

01:48:27.000 You've got it under your chin.

01:48:28.000 Do I? I like that.

01:48:29.000 It's going to sound weird.

01:48:31.000 That's better.

01:48:31.000 There you go.

01:48:32.000 It's unclear.

01:48:33.000 Yeah, it's like if you wash your clothes...

01:48:34.000 Yeah.

01:48:34.000 What, are you a clothes washer?

01:48:35.000 Yeah, no fun. 1.00

01:48:36.000 Fuck no. 1.00

01:48:37.000 You're a fucking person. 1.00

01:48:37.000 Everyone washes clothes, unless you're a dirty prick. 1.00

01:48:39.000 You know, everyone does that. 0.97

01:48:41.000 But because people know that I hunt, like, people will find me.

01:48:44.000 Like, if there's a guy, like, somewhere, and, you know, like, he wants to meet me somewhere, it's like the first thing that comes up almost, like, instantly, we know each other.

01:48:54.000 Yeah.

01:48:55.000 Like, dude, you bow hunt?

01:48:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:48:56.000 Like, you bow hunt?

01:48:57.000 Yeah, I bow hunt.

01:48:58.000 It's crazy.

01:48:58.000 Oh, all right, cool.

01:49:00.000 Yeah.

01:49:00.000 Where do you go?

01:49:00.000 It's like, oh, you know, we go to New Mexico every year.

01:49:03.000 Oh, cool.

01:49:03.000 Yeah.

01:49:04.000 None of your fucking business. 1.00

01:49:06.000 There's a lot of that too, right? 1.00

01:49:07.000 Yeah, you and John Dudley had that talk about public spots.

01:49:12.000 And you're like...

01:49:14.000 Because I agree, it's not your...

01:49:16.000 Like, you don't own it.

01:49:17.000 Like, everyone owns public land.

01:49:19.000 But I'll take this story back up for John.

01:49:22.000 But to share that spot is...

01:49:28.000 Not the done thing.

01:49:29.000 Because it's like everyone should put their own in, in a sense.

01:49:32.000 To go find a spot.

01:49:33.000 Yeah, to go find a spot.

01:49:34.000 And even if you're happy to share a spot, because I go to a lot of different spots and social media asks me to tell these spots and I never do because that spot could be someone else's paradise that they've fucking spent 10 years to find.

01:49:46.000 Right.

01:49:46.000 Then you give that information out to the masses.

01:49:49.000 So don't fucking ask, you know, that's the thing. 0.98

01:49:52.000 Yeah, that's the thing, right? 0.97

01:49:53.000 It's like, even though these places are beautiful and everybody owns them, the last thing you want is what's happening right now in Joshua Tree, right? 0.99

01:49:59.000 A bunch of people going there, chopping down trees, leaving fucking trash everywhere. 0.96

01:50:03.000 Well, that's one thing I really like about what you do, too. 1.00

01:50:05.000 You always make videos of these trash that you pick up. 0.79

01:50:08.000 You bring a bag with you.

01:50:09.000 Well, I started the thing, so I brought a bunch of gear with me, and I'm fortunate.

01:50:13.000 I've got really good sponsors, and they send me a bunch of gear as well so I could do the trip over here without bringing everything. 0.87

01:50:19.000 And I was walking around New Mexico, actually, and I was looking at all the trash sitting around, and I was like, fuck it, I'm going to give away all my equipment for this trip, virtually all my main hunting gear, backpack, bow, friggin' Yeti cooler, whatever, you know.

01:50:34.000 And for anyone that tags me in an image of them picking up trash, and I'm not going to say the... 0.88

01:50:40.000 The description of it now because it's pretty much ended.

01:50:42.000 I've given the bow away and all my gear.

01:50:45.000 Because these hunters are doing that anyway, but I just thought I'd really drive it home, you know?

01:50:49.000 Yeah.

01:50:50.000 And thousands and thousands of people tagged me and them collecting rubbish out in public lands or wherever.

01:50:57.000 You know, there's people that were posting me, they were picking it up on the beach right here in LA, you know, collecting rubbish.

01:51:03.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:51:03.000 It was, because it's disheartening when you've got that connection to the wild, you see that, you know, like, fuck, that doesn't belong here. 0.99

01:51:09.000 You know those balloons? 0.99

01:51:10.000 Those balloons that float away?

01:51:11.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:51:12.000 Holy, they need to ban them fucking things. 1.00

01:51:14.000 Because they drop somewhere. 1.00

01:51:16.000 Someone walks out, they let them go, they end up somewhere.

01:51:19.000 It's usually on the mountain, you know, the mountain ends up catching them, you know.

01:51:22.000 Yeah.

01:51:22.000 Yeah, it just doesn't belong there.

01:51:24.000 I was out on the trail yesterday with my dog and just came across this Bud Light can and I just stopped and just staring at this can down the ground. 1.00

01:51:33.000 I wanted to find the guy who did it and shove it down his fucking throat. 1.00

01:51:36.000 What person does that? 1.00

01:51:37.000 Why would you just leave this Bud Light can?

01:51:39.000 I always think of that.

01:51:40.000 I'm like, who would do that?

01:51:41.000 It's such a beautiful place and just be like, whatever.

01:51:44.000 Just chuck it, leave it behind.

01:51:46.000 I see it everywhere because a lot of people are like, I want to apologize on behalf of America. 1.00

01:51:50.000 I'm like, fuck... 1.00

01:51:51.000 That's not America. 1.00

01:51:52.000 That's everywhere.

01:51:53.000 That's people everywhere.

01:51:54.000 But there's certain places that people are...

01:51:57.000 There's different people.

01:52:00.000 New Zealand's one of them.

01:52:01.000 So New Zealand has like hundreds and hundreds of public land cabins.

01:52:06.000 Yeah.

01:52:07.000 Like no fee, pretty much nothing.

01:52:09.000 And if there is a fee, it's like five bucks.

01:52:11.000 And you can hike in or drive to these cabins and you stay in there.

01:52:14.000 And they've got mattresses in them.

01:52:16.000 They've got beds.

01:52:16.000 They've got...

01:52:17.000 The firewood's cut for you, it's left there by the hunters or outdoors people before you, and they're in pristine condition.

01:52:23.000 And there's a guestbook too, right?

01:52:25.000 Yeah, you're signing the guestbook. 0.91

01:52:27.000 If that was in Australia, if that was in America, it'd be so fucking vandalised it's not funny.

01:52:32.000 But New Zealand's got a certain type of people that go out the bush, the mountains, and there's a certain respect that comes with it, and maybe it's from Maori culture or something like that that goes with it.

01:52:45.000 Where that just doesn't happen.

01:52:46.000 The person that's here before you cleans it out.

01:52:49.000 They sweep it out.

01:52:50.000 They clean it.

01:52:50.000 They leave a bit of tin food there or whatever.

01:52:52.000 They cut new firewood.

01:52:54.000 They stack it where it can stay dry, you know, things like that.

01:52:57.000 And it's something that goes without saying with me and my people how we sort of do.

01:53:01.000 That's how we are, respectable for the land.

01:53:03.000 But there's so many people that aren't.

01:53:05.000 That's a beautiful thing if you find a community like that, that everybody agrees to respect that area, everybody agrees to do that and take care of things.

01:53:13.000 I mean, if you can really come across something like that, like we were talking about in New Zealand, there's just a great feeling of community that comes with that.

01:53:20.000 Yeah, totally.

01:53:20.000 There seems to be a tight hunting community in America as well, where obviously none of that thing would happen, but there's so many people that go out into the outdoors that...

01:53:30.000 They belong there, so I don't want to say they don't belong there, but the truth is, as soon as you litter or something, you don't fucking belong there. 0.98

01:53:37.000 Right. 1.00

01:53:37.000 Yeah, go back to your own fucking trash house, you know? 1.00

01:53:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:53:40.000 Yeah, it's just so unfortunate.

01:53:42.000 It's unfortunate that people do think like that.

01:53:45.000 They think so selfishly, they just throw a water bottle on the ground.

01:53:48.000 They don't care.

01:53:49.000 Yeah.

01:53:49.000 No one's going to notice.

01:53:50.000 It's out here in the wilderness.

01:53:51.000 That's what it is.

01:53:53.000 It's so self-centered that it's like no one or nothing else matters, you know?

01:53:59.000 There's so much of that.

01:54:00.000 There's so much of that.

01:54:02.000 That's what I think is getting worse.

01:54:04.000 People are doing a poor job of raising people.

01:54:08.000 They're not paying attention. 1.00

01:54:11.000 They're raising shitty humans. 1.00

01:54:13.000 I want to fight it. 0.99

01:54:14.000 I've constantly been fighting it and that's why I have the social media and stuff to keep promoting the outdoors and good things in life and things like that.

01:54:23.000 But another part of me is like And I nearly did it last year. 0.98

01:54:26.000 I was just like, fuck, I want to go off the grid. 0.99

01:54:29.000 Like really off the grid. 0.99

01:54:31.000 So solar powered, you know, a couple of thousand acres of my own, stuff like that.

01:54:37.000 Because Kim pretty much only eats game meat now as well. 1.00

01:54:39.000 Like that's how we've gone.

01:54:40.000 So we just want to eat game meat.

01:54:42.000 And it's like the next step would be having our own chickens, collecting our own eggs, growing our own vegetables, like living off the land, you know.

01:54:49.000 Do you want to have like a phone out there? 0.99

01:54:51.000 Fuck no. 1.00

01:54:52.000 So how long would you live out there for? 1.00

01:54:54.000 Forever.

01:54:55.000 Forever and ever and ever?

01:54:56.000 Yeah.

01:54:57.000 How am I going to get in touch with you?

01:54:59.000 I'll have a phone with your number only. 0.99

01:55:02.000 I just felt like cutting it all out, you know, like fucking cutting bills out, cutting all that shit out, cutting contact out. 0.99

01:55:09.000 Yeah, I get that. 0.99

01:55:11.000 Do you still run your company?

01:55:13.000 To a degree.

01:55:14.000 I've got really good people that run it.

01:55:17.000 Unfortunately, my business partner, she's an indigenous woman in that area. 1.00

01:55:21.000 She just passed away a couple of weeks ago.

01:55:23.000 I'm sorry to hear that.

01:55:24.000 Yeah, which is pretty sad.

01:55:25.000 How long have you known her?

01:55:29.000 She's my stepmother, so a long time.

01:55:32.000 So it's my dad's partner.

01:55:36.000 So the Indigenous, they don't really live to a long age. 1.00

01:55:43.000 They're unhealthy in a sense because they're so not used to our processed, refined foods and things like that.

01:55:53.000 How old is Australia?

01:55:54.000 It's only a couple of hundred years old.

01:55:58.000 So, you know, to get to 60, it seems like it's a friggin' miracle for them.

01:56:02.000 So, I'm not sure how old she was, but she wasn't very old.

01:56:06.000 And so, unfortunately, she passed away.

01:56:09.000 She was on a dialysis machine and her heart was really struggling and ended up giving out.

01:56:16.000 Sorry, where was I going?

01:56:18.000 I get it.

01:56:20.000 You were just talking about being off the grid and whether or not you still run your company.

01:56:27.000 I've got really good people that run the business for me.

01:56:31.000 Everything's done by emails and phone calls and I hardly do any of that anymore.

01:56:35.000 I might hear from them once a month if need be.

01:56:38.000 But I'd even look at selling the...

01:56:39.000 I'd probably look at selling the business, especially after this has happened.

01:56:43.000 After she's done.

01:56:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:56:45.000 Probably look at selling the business.

01:56:47.000 But it just depends.

01:56:47.000 Her son...

01:56:48.000 Her son's going to take over her partnership, you know, the joint venture with her and stuff like that, which would be really good for him and still, you know, allow an income into the family and things like that, so...

01:57:00.000 So we'll just see where it goes.

01:57:01.000 But yeah, I was really thinking about going off the grid and just...

01:57:04.000 Like, I've always wanted to be like that.

01:57:06.000 You know, I just...

01:57:07.000 I love that lifestyle.

01:57:09.000 Time seems to go a lot slower when you're out in the woods.

01:57:13.000 Yeah.

01:57:13.000 For starters, you're doing exactly what you want to do, you know?

01:57:16.000 I like being in contact with the world, though.

01:57:19.000 I like both.

01:57:20.000 Yeah.

01:57:21.000 It's like, I do appreciate off-the-grid times, but for me, I like them as like vacations.

01:57:27.000 But I like being in contact.

01:57:28.000 I want to know what's happening with the world.

01:57:31.000 I like being aware of cultural change.

01:57:36.000 I like being, I mean, it's also because of what I do for a living as a comedian.

01:57:40.000 Oh, for sure, yeah.

01:57:41.000 I sort of don't.

01:57:43.000 I don't care for it.

01:57:44.000 Like, we don't watch the news at home.

01:57:46.000 We don't tune into anything like that. 1.00

01:57:48.000 We just sort of live our life and it's like what affects us, unless it's affecting the greater community in a sense for the worse, you know, because the country's run by fucking clowns. 1.00

01:57:59.000 That's how I feel. 1.00

01:58:00.000 Your country as well?

01:58:01.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:58:02.000 Fuck, yeah. 1.00

01:58:02.000 What's worse? 1.00

01:58:04.000 America? 1.00

01:58:04.000 These fucks are too busy trying to look good in parliament and argue with each other to get anything actually done. 1.00

01:58:10.000 What are the big issues in Australia? 1.00

01:58:12.000 I don't know, because I don't tune into it anymore.

01:58:14.000 Well, you guys have crazy immigration laws.

01:58:16.000 You don't let anybody go over there.

01:58:18.000 It's like people who think that the United States is rough with this whole wall thing.

01:58:22.000 Oh, yeah.

01:58:22.000 Australia takes that to a whole new level.

01:58:25.000 They ship people to an island.

01:58:27.000 Christmas Island. 0.99

01:58:28.000 It's a fucking nice island, though. 0.99

01:58:29.000 Is it? 0.99

01:58:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:58:30.000 Well, think about what you guys are.

01:58:32.000 I mean, you guys were a place that the British shipped all their prisoners to a way better place.

01:58:37.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:58:38.000 I did all the security fencing around some of the detention centres. 0.96

01:58:43.000 So you're pretty much, you're on that island, you know, and then you get shipped to like the hottest, most fucking arid part of Australia, like it's deaf. 0.94

01:58:52.000 And I did the fencing around there.

01:58:54.000 And then I believe they're there for so long and then they can, you know, they either get shipped back home or they can go out to the broader community in Australia, which they get treated very well, obviously.

01:59:04.000 Yeah.

01:59:04.000 So, is it just an assessment place?

01:59:06.000 Like, were they trying to find out if you're a criminal or you're violent?

01:59:09.000 Yeah, I think that's...

01:59:11.000 And that's the important thing.

01:59:12.000 You know, that's why you can't just have open borders.

01:59:15.000 You know, some terrorist comes in.

01:59:16.000 Right. 1.00

01:59:17.000 Some guy that thinks fucking rape's fine. 1.00

01:59:19.000 Some guy that thinks, you know, crazy shit's fine, you know, assess those people and fucking send them off or... 1.00

01:59:25.000 Yeah, but if you did that in the most arid part of America, people would be so angry. 1.00

01:59:31.000 Because people would start dying.

01:59:31.000 Well, people are angry in Australia as well.

01:59:33.000 And I think there has been deaths and stuff like that.

01:59:35.000 What are you supposed to do?

01:59:37.000 It's a hard situation.

01:59:41.000 It's not something that's just like, no, just let them through. 1.00

01:59:43.000 No, fuck no. 0.99

01:59:44.000 And it's not like, just don't let them through. 1.00

01:59:46.000 It's that middle ground again.

01:59:47.000 Let's assess them.

01:59:48.000 Let's work it out.

01:59:49.000 Because I always think, what if I was in their shoes? 0.97

01:59:53.000 You know, I've got Kim and the kids or whatever, and now we're in a country that's war-fucking-stricken. 0.99

01:59:57.000 I'd be trying to get the fuck out of there, too, no matter what it took. 0.99

02:00:01.000 Well, not no matter what it took, but... 0.98

02:00:04.000 No, of course.

02:00:06.000 Yeah, I mean, I always say that about people that are talking about people sneaking over this country.

02:00:11.000 I'm like, this country is made out of immigrants.

02:00:14.000 Yeah.

02:00:14.000 It's an immigrant country.

02:00:15.000 Yeah, and what do you expect when you've got some fucking good... 1.00

02:00:18.000 The whole fucking country's immigrants. 1.00

02:00:20.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:00:20.000 I mean, that's like people in LA saying they don't want anybody moving to LA. Yeah. 1.00

02:00:26.000 This is all LA is.

02:00:28.000 Where are you from?

02:00:29.000 Well, look at Australia. 1.00

02:00:30.000 If you're fucking white, you're an import. 1.00

02:00:32.000 Right. 1.00

02:00:33.000 And by the way, if you are one of the original people that came here, I mean, one of the original European settlers, you're probably a fucking slave owner. 0.99

02:00:41.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

02:00:42.000 Your grandparents were slave owners. 1.00

02:00:43.000 If you didn't come over here as a recent immigrant, like I'm third generation, my grandparents came over here from Europe, If they didn't, then if they were here for 10, 15 generations, they're probably fucking slave owners. 0.99

02:00:56.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

02:00:57.000 So stop.

02:00:57.000 I actually, I never feel a real good connect with anywhere I go, including my home, Australia, because I'm not indigenous.

02:01:05.000 It's weird.

02:01:06.000 I don't worry about flags or borders or anything like that.

02:01:11.000 I've just always looked at the world's home.

02:01:14.000 Especially because you spend so much time with the indigenous people in Australia because of work.

02:01:20.000 No disrespect to any flag.

02:01:22.000 I love the flag and I love what they stand for, but it's only someone's design.

02:01:26.000 A border is only something that someone's put on the map.

02:01:30.000 It's like a real weird thing like that.

02:01:32.000 It is a weird thing, but also you want to protect people from people that come from a place. 1.00

02:01:38.000 Oh, 100%.

02:01:38.000 Unless the whole world was the same.

02:01:41.000 Unless the whole world was on the same level.

02:01:43.000 We're not going to do this.

02:01:44.000 We're not going to do that.

02:01:45.000 This is illegal.

02:01:46.000 This is fine.

02:01:47.000 Unless the whole world was like that, then borders would be easy to cross.

02:01:50.000 Well, that's essentially what America is.

02:01:52.000 We've been talking about this a lot, that America is essentially like Europe, but everybody speaks the same language, but you can go to any country. 0.58

02:01:58.000 Like, New Mexico is fucking way different than Miami, right?

02:02:02.000 Miami is way different than L.A. L.A. is way different than Seattle. 0.79

02:02:06.000 Those are all almost like completely different places, but you could go to them.

02:02:11.000 Ideally, that's where it would be.

02:02:13.000 You could travel anywhere where the opportunity was, where you thought you could get a good job, and you want to better yourself and your family.

02:02:20.000 You'd have an opportunity.

02:02:21.000 The fact that currency and life values are different, for starters, is why that can't happen.

02:02:27.000 Yeah.

02:02:28.000 But it'd be nice.

02:02:29.000 Well, it would be nice if one day the whole world rises up.

02:02:34.000 And, you know, when you look at the Western world, whether it's Europe or the United States and places where things are going really well, or Asia, it would be nice if the whole planet was like that.

02:02:44.000 If there was no third world, if everything was fantastic, if everything was just basically just like we're talking about here, hey, you can live in Phoenix, or you can live in Billings, Montana, or you could live in Massachusetts. 0.98

02:02:58.000 Go wherever the fuck you want. 0.95

02:03:00.000 That's what we have here. 0.99

02:03:01.000 We have a real unique thing in this country.

02:03:04.000 That's why people want to come here.

02:03:05.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:03:06.000 It's fucking good. 0.99

02:03:06.000 It's pretty dope. 0.99

02:03:07.000 I hear a lot of...

02:03:08.000 Because you always hear the negative things and I hear a lot of people ragging on America and their own country and stuff like that.

02:03:13.000 You know, this is... 0.99

02:03:14.000 Fucking America is brilliant. 0.99

02:03:17.000 Australia is brilliant. 0.99

02:03:18.000 These countries are all so fucking lucky to be here. 0.64

02:03:21.000 Yeah. 0.83

02:03:22.000 You know? 1.00

02:03:22.000 Because you look at other parts of the world and you're like, fuck. 1.00

02:03:25.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:03:25.000 They can't feed their baby. 1.00

02:03:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:03:27.000 You know what I mean?

02:03:28.000 Yeah.

02:03:29.000 Yeah.

02:03:29.000 I think Africa, like I always threaten my kids, and it's not a fret because they love it, but I always say I'm fucking taking it to Africa because however long ago when I went to Africa, like I was watching little babies in a village crawl around in like three, four inches of dust.

02:03:46.000 Every second person you met had fucking war scars on their face in Mozambique and Zimbabwe. 0.98

02:03:52.000 And you're driving down, there's a roadblock, there's dudes with fucking AK-47s that are duct-taped together. 0.99

02:03:58.000 There's a guy on the side of the road with a fucking bazooka, a rocket launcher, and you don't know if they're friend or foe. 0.98

02:04:04.000 And this is just normal, everyday life going for Africa. 1.00

02:04:08.000 There's a tourist bus on the side of the road. 1.00

02:04:10.000 It's fucking burnout. 0.99

02:04:11.000 And there's just bullet holes sprayed through a line of the windows and shit like that. 1.00

02:04:16.000 And it's like, fuck, this isn't Australia. 0.99

02:04:19.000 This isn't America. 1.00

02:04:20.000 This is different.

02:04:22.000 Right.

02:04:22.000 Yeah.

02:04:39.000 You know, you've got a good life.

02:04:41.000 You, like, appreciate it.

02:04:42.000 Like, it can be a lot harder.

02:04:44.000 It's hard to appreciate, right?

02:04:45.000 It's like we were talking about going into the bush.

02:04:47.000 If you go into the bush for seven days, then you come out, you appreciate hot water.

02:04:52.000 You appreciate sunshine if you've been out in the rain.

02:04:54.000 But it's hard for people to appreciate it without actually experiencing it.

02:04:59.000 Doing it, yeah.

02:05:00.000 Because you can only conceptualize it so much in your head.

02:05:03.000 Unless you're actually there, it's...

02:05:06.000 It doesn't do it.

02:05:07.000 No, it doesn't.

02:05:08.000 And that's virtually reality is never going to touch on that either, you know?

02:05:12.000 No. 0.99

02:05:12.000 No, it's going to turn us into some weird spongy looking fucking soft jelly bag. 0.99

02:05:20.000 Yeah, exactly, yeah. 0.98

02:05:21.000 I'm worried.

02:05:21.000 I'm really worried about the future.

02:05:23.000 But I guess that's just what happens.

02:05:26.000 I mean, because it seems like...

02:05:28.000 Well, my old Nan and Pa would have been saying the same thing about our generation now. 1.00

02:05:34.000 Well, we are soft as fuck in comparison to chimps. 0.99

02:05:38.000 Our ancient, ancient ancestors were something like chimps. 0.99

02:05:43.000 They're probably looking at us now. 1.00

02:05:44.000 They'd be like, look at these pussies with their shoes. 1.00

02:05:47.000 They need houses. 1.00

02:05:48.000 You can't even sleep in a tree, you fucking dummies. 1.00

02:05:51.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

02:05:51.000 Yeah, totally. 1.00

02:05:52.000 But we don't want to live like that either.

02:05:54.000 Maybe the Matrix would be so beautiful. 0.99

02:05:56.000 We're like, this Adam Green tree running around with a fucking gun that doesn't work, sticking it in the face of a grizzly bear. 1.00

02:06:00.000 That's fucking funny. 1.00

02:06:16.000 It's just fucking life. 1.00

02:06:26.000 And I always think, I'm just an animal. 1.00

02:06:28.000 Like, what's the difference?

02:06:29.000 I'll get hyperfermia and die.

02:06:31.000 Well, you have Gore-Tex.

02:06:33.000 Yes.

02:06:34.000 You get some Under Armour Gore-Tex clothes on.

02:06:36.000 I do.

02:06:36.000 You're fine.

02:06:37.000 And then it's like, but even if you don't, it's like, fuck whatever. 1.00

02:06:40.000 You're just wet. 0.99

02:06:41.000 It's just water.

02:06:42.000 Well, the technology today, like what they figured out for outdoor gear is so good.

02:06:46.000 You wear, you know, like merino wool, which even when it gets wet, keeps your body warm.

02:06:51.000 There's the water protection of this gear is so good.

02:06:55.000 There's so many different companies that make outstanding stuff now.

02:06:58.000 You can be fine in the rain now.

02:06:59.000 Exactly, yeah.

02:07:01.000 And yeah, I just think that we just keep getting so removed.

02:07:04.000 Like as soon as it rains, like everyone runs to the car or runs to the shelter.

02:07:07.000 How about here?

02:07:07.000 Here, they don't even know how to drive.

02:07:09.000 Yeah, oh, fuck, dude. 1.00

02:07:09.000 They fucking panicked. 1.00

02:07:10.000 Oh, my God. 0.99

02:07:11.000 A little bit of drizzle.

02:07:12.000 Everybody's like, ah!

02:07:13.000 And then accidents everywhere.

02:07:15.000 People don't know. 1.00

02:07:16.000 They don't realize it gets slippery, you dumb fucks. 1.00

02:07:19.000 Yeah, change of driving. 1.00

02:07:20.000 Fucking LA has been... 0.99

02:07:22.000 It's so goofy. 0.99

02:07:24.000 It's nearly upsetting, because I'm like, people have to do this every day to go to work.

02:07:28.000 Like, traffic some of people's lives. 0.99

02:07:30.000 And I'm like, why the fuck would you do that? 0.99

02:07:34.000 But people, they're fucking caught up in the whole system. 0.99

02:07:38.000 If you drive out to, like, you go up the 5 and head towards, like, Palmdale or Bakersfield or any place out there, and you see traffic at, like, 6 o'clock in the morning, bumper to bumper... 0.99

02:07:53.000 Just ridiculous.

02:07:54.000 Just all people making it to LA. So they drive an hour all the way out to Palmdale. 0.59

02:07:58.000 Hour 15, hour 20, because the rent is cheaper.

02:08:02.000 And then they make their way, or home prices are cheaper.

02:08:04.000 That's their life. 1.00

02:08:05.000 That's fucking... 1.00

02:08:10.000 Orange County. 1.00

02:08:11.000 The people that live in Orange County, that place is fucking dense. 1.00

02:08:15.000 Crazy. 1.00

02:08:16.000 It's beautiful out there.

02:08:17.000 It's great.

02:08:18.000 Great place to live. 1.00

02:08:18.000 But goddamn, if you have to go anywhere, like if you have to drive to Hollywood every day, good fucking luck keeping your sanity. 1.00

02:08:26.000 There's probably in the car right now listening to us going, fuck! 1.00

02:08:30.000 Sorry, poor you. 1.00

02:08:30.000 What is this? 1.00

02:08:31.000 I-5 reopens in the grapevine after...

02:08:33.000 What is this, snow?

02:08:34.000 This is last month when it first snowed.

02:08:36.000 This is the pass on the I-5.

02:08:38.000 Remember what you were saying?

02:08:39.000 Palmdale area?

02:08:40.000 It was snowing in Palmdale?

02:08:41.000 It just shut everything down.

02:08:43.000 Oh, look at the amount of people!

02:08:45.000 They got stuck.

02:08:46.000 Look at the amount of people! 0.98

02:08:47.000 If someone's got a goal and they're aiming towards that goal and they're doing the job to get that goal, then fucking good on them. 0.98

02:08:53.000 But other than that, if you're doing this for a fucking dead-end job... 0.96

02:08:57.000 Vehicles just sitting on the highway covered in snow. 0.99

02:09:00.000 Yeah, that's where you want a four-wheel drive truck with some good fucking knobby tires. 1.00

02:09:06.000 Fuck no, that's when you want to just ring up and say, I'm not coming. 1.00

02:09:10.000 Yeah, that too. 1.00

02:09:11.000 Damn. 0.99

02:09:11.000 Yeah, not good. 0.99

02:09:13.000 I feel so sorry for anyone that's caught up with that.

02:09:16.000 It's so rare that it snows out there, too. 0.95

02:09:17.000 No one knows what the fuck to do when it snows. 0.71

02:09:20.000 I grew up in Boston, and in the snow, I had to drive every day in the snow because I delivered newspapers. 0.85

02:09:27.000 That was my job from the time I was like 17 till I was 22-ish, somewhere around there, maybe the last time I stopped, 22, 23. I got up every fucking morning. 0.98

02:09:40.000 So it taught me two things. 0.99

02:09:41.000 One, it taught me discipline.

02:09:42.000 Because I had to be up at 5 o'clock in the morning no matter what.

02:09:45.000 Even earlier on Sunday because it was big thick Sunday papers.

02:09:49.000 You had to make multiple trips.

02:09:51.000 I even had a van.

02:09:52.000 I bought a cargo van just to deliver newspapers in. 0.98

02:09:55.000 Some shitty cargo van. 0.95

02:09:56.000 I forgot to change the oil. 0.99

02:09:57.000 Engine seized on me.

02:09:59.000 I brought it to the guy.

02:10:00.000 And I go, what's wrong?

02:10:01.000 He's like, you didn't have any oil. 1.00

02:10:02.000 And I'm like, fuck. 1.00

02:10:04.000 Not good with cars. 1.00

02:10:07.000 But I drove in the snow every day, man.

02:10:10.000 So if I'm in the snow today and I feel my ass end kick out, I'm like, whoa, hey, I know what to do here.

02:10:16.000 I don't panic.

02:10:17.000 I don't slam on the brakes.

02:10:18.000 I drove a lot in snow.

02:10:21.000 Did you remember having a set goal at that point, doing that job?

02:10:25.000 No, I just wanted to not work.

02:10:28.000 And nobody could tell me what to do when I was in my car.

02:10:30.000 The thing about it is, I had a job.

02:10:32.000 This was my task.

02:10:33.000 I had hundreds of houses that I delivered newspapers to.

02:10:37.000 But I didn't have anybody with me while I was doing it.

02:10:40.000 So while I was doing it, nobody was telling me what to do.

02:10:42.000 Nobody was yelling at me.

02:10:43.000 I listened to the radio, listened to the talk radio. 0.99

02:10:48.000 Just listen to music, think about jokes and shit, and just throw newspapers out the window. 0.99

02:10:53.000 It was nice. 1.00

02:10:55.000 It was better for me.

02:10:58.000 I would way rather work seven days a week, and it was only a few hours a day.

02:11:03.000 So even though it was every single day, it was only like three hours a day.

02:11:09.000 You know, I was done by 8 and I'd go back to sleep. 0.99

02:11:12.000 Now you've got the biggest fucking podcast. 1.00

02:11:14.000 It's crazy. 0.99

02:11:16.000 So I've been self-employed since I was 21. Really?

02:11:19.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:11:20.000 And I had a big media company reach out to me not so long ago.

02:11:23.000 And the biggest thing that turned me off, because the pricing and everything was right, was I'm like, I fucking can't take orders.

02:11:31.000 What would they want you to do? 0.78

02:11:32.000 I can take orders.

02:11:34.000 Podcast types?

02:11:35.000 Yeah, pretty much.

02:11:37.000 I own a lot of my content.

02:11:40.000 And unfortunately, a part of that would have been changing some of the companies that I'm with.

02:11:45.000 And I'm friends with the companies I'm with.

02:11:47.000 I'm with those companies because they're what I want to use.

02:11:49.000 You mean like hunting companies?

02:11:51.000 Yeah. 0.84

02:11:52.000 But the thought of having to be on someone else's timeline then, I was like, I fucking don't want to do that.

02:12:00.000 Right now, I'm just doing me and whatever happens, happens.

02:12:03.000 And it's like your situation, you know?

02:12:05.000 Yeah, if I even had a guy that I had to check in with once a month and say, so, everything looks good, we've got an upward trend here, I'd be like, ugh! 0.99

02:12:14.000 That fucking phone call would be haunting me. 0.97

02:12:17.000 And I'm such a spare-of-the-moment guy. 1.00

02:12:20.000 You know, like, this hunt's come up, I'm going there.

02:12:23.000 I want to do this with the kids or the kid and the family, I'm going and doing it.

02:12:26.000 I really like that.

02:12:27.000 So relaxing, dude, to be like that.

02:12:29.000 And that's why I built the business that I've got to where it is as well.

02:12:32.000 Where I don't have to be at work continually.

02:12:35.000 How often are you putting out your podcast?

02:12:37.000 Right now, I've put a hold on it since this trip because it's just been so...

02:12:42.000 Even though this trip would have been epic to do it on, I just haven't done it because everything's like so fast forward.

02:12:49.000 It's insane.

02:12:50.000 Plus, you have the kids with you.

02:12:51.000 That's hours out of the day that you just don't have.

02:12:53.000 Exactly, yeah.

02:12:55.000 But as soon as I get back home, which is like middle of February after the Western Expo, then I'm going to start pumping it again.

02:13:01.000 I love doing it.

02:13:02.000 The Expo in Salt Lake?

02:13:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:13:04.000 I love doing it.

02:13:05.000 When is that in Salt Lake?

02:13:06.000 I think it's like 15th, 16th, 17th of February maybe.

02:13:11.000 Really?

02:13:11.000 Yeah.

02:13:13.000 You should get along.

02:13:15.000 I've been there before.

02:13:17.000 February 14th.

02:13:18.000 February 14th to the 7th.

02:13:20.000 Western Expo in Salt Lake City, Utah.

02:13:22.000 Dad is free.

02:13:23.000 But Dad is not free on the 14th.

02:13:25.000 That's Valentine's Day.

02:13:26.000 You've got to pick your battles.

02:13:28.000 You do.

02:13:29.000 You've got to pick your battles.

02:13:30.000 You've got to pick your battles.

02:13:32.000 You've got to know what to do.

02:13:33.000 I make sure that I take plenty of family vacations around hunting trips.

02:13:38.000 Yeah, totally.

02:13:38.000 Well, you just went over to the Big Island, didn't you?

02:13:41.000 No, we went to Maui.

02:13:43.000 We did that for New Year's.

02:13:45.000 I decided to stop working on New Year's.

02:13:47.000 Because right now, I can't really work anyway, like legitimately for a couple months, because I don't have enough material, because I just did a Netflix special, and I want to make sure...

02:13:58.000 I don't want anybody coming to see me and I'm half-assed.

02:14:01.000 So if I'm doing sets around LA, like right now, I could rock it for 20 minutes or a half hour.

02:14:06.000 That's easy.

02:14:06.000 I mean, that's not easy, but it's doable.

02:14:10.000 It's legit.

02:14:10.000 I don't feel like I'm a fraud.

02:14:12.000 Like if I do a half-hour show, that's a real half-hour show.

02:14:14.000 But it's not a real hour show.

02:14:16.000 Because an hour show, like in a theater or an arena, I really need an hour and 20. Because you've got to make sure everything's good.

02:14:25.000 There's a giant responsibility.

02:14:28.000 You don't want to leave anybody.

02:14:30.000 People get babysitters, and they take time out of their day.

02:14:33.000 I've got to be prepared, so I work hard at it.

02:14:36.000 So I was thinking about New Year's, and when it came, they were trying to set up New Year's gigs for me, and I'm like, not only am I not ready, I don't think I want to do it, because it seems like such a big event.

02:14:46.000 Totally.

02:14:47.000 New Year's is like, it's New Year's!

02:14:49.000 We're out!

02:14:50.000 I can't believe it!

02:14:51.000 We're celebrating!

02:14:52.000 It's like Vegas on crack.

02:14:55.000 The whole thing is just ramped up so far past normal.

02:15:00.000 It's so weird.

02:15:00.000 It's like a show show.

02:15:01.000 So we were out in the desert.

02:15:03.000 It was just me, Kim, and the kids on New Year's. 0.96

02:15:06.000 And everything else just fucking turns like normal. 0.96

02:15:09.000 But the human race, it's like... 0.97

02:15:11.000 Because it's written on a calendar, it's like this big deal, you know?

02:15:14.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:15:15.000 And it is cool, but fuck, New Year seems like such a good time just to chill for me. 0.98

02:15:19.000 Yeah, it was a good time to chill. 0.68

02:15:21.000 Yeah, we went to the, you know, we were staying at a resort in Maui and it was beautiful and the food was great and the beach was great.

02:15:30.000 Yeah.

02:15:30.000 Just chill.

02:15:30.000 Fucking awesome.

02:15:31.000 Just chill. 0.97

02:15:33.000 Yeah.

02:15:33.000 I need more of that in my life.

02:15:34.000 I need more chill time.

02:15:36.000 I'm just doing so many different things.

02:15:38.000 I have to balance it out with nothing sometimes. 0.99

02:15:42.000 Because when I'm go, go, go, sometimes I'm just like, fuck, I just want to sit on the couch. 0.99

02:15:47.000 And I feel lazy as fuck when I do it because I'm so used to going. 0.99

02:15:50.000 But that sitting on the couch and watching a movie and just chilling is like, holy shit, dude. 0.99

02:15:55.000 Yeah, you recharge. 0.99

02:15:56.000 It totally is.

02:15:57.000 And it makes you hungry to go, go, go again.

02:16:00.000 Sometimes I need that.

02:16:01.000 I need that for...

02:16:03.000 It took me a while to figure that out with stand-up, too.

02:16:05.000 Sometimes I need to take little breaks just to recharge my imagination, recharge my enthusiasm for it.

02:16:12.000 There's a balance in life.

02:16:13.000 You can't work out five hours a day every day.

02:16:15.000 You break your body down.

02:16:16.000 Yeah, totally.

02:16:17.000 You need breaks.

02:16:17.000 And I think you need breaks with your imagination.

02:16:19.000 You need breaks with enthusiasm, with everything.

02:16:21.000 Yeah.

02:16:22.000 Let the mind reset.

02:16:23.000 Yeah.

02:16:25.000 So, what are you doing while you're in LA? Like, how long are you going to be here for?

02:16:29.000 So, we did Disney with the kids and just chilled out.

02:16:32.000 We're leaving tomorrow, heading back to Utah, Salt Lake City.

02:16:35.000 What are you going to do up there?

02:16:37.000 Pretty much getting organized to go back home.

02:16:39.000 So, I'm going to drop the...

02:16:41.000 I've got that Winnebago trailer.

02:16:42.000 I'm going to drop off there and unpack...

02:16:44.000 You're going to visit Hoyt?

02:16:45.000 Yeah, I'm going to go visit Hoyt, yeah. 0.96

02:16:47.000 I'm going to send out a bunch of this shit that I said I'd give away and stuff like that. 0.80

02:16:50.000 Then we're going back to Utah. 0.98

02:16:53.000 Utah's been our base pretty much.

02:16:54.000 Some friends are up Utah.

02:16:56.000 Going to go back to Utah and pack up a bunch of stuff and then I've got a bison hunt that I'm going to do.

02:17:01.000 That's the last hunt while I'm in America.

02:17:03.000 And then down to the Western Expo, we're screening one of the movies that I did.

02:17:08.000 There I did a movie over in New Zealand.

02:17:11.000 And the boys from Bowhunt Down Under in Australia filmed it for me. 0.97

02:17:15.000 And they did a fucking awesome job. 0.83

02:17:17.000 Well, the one you guys did with Cam, the Under Armour one, was fantastic. 0.99

02:17:21.000 It was really good.

02:17:22.000 Yeah, they were good.

02:17:23.000 They did a great job with that. 0.99

02:17:24.000 They're funnier to do than what the fucking movie is. 0.98

02:17:27.000 Because, you know, they want to cut it down to 20 minutes. 0.98

02:17:30.000 They made that one pretty long where it was 20-something minutes. 0.98

02:17:33.000 Because me and Cam had like two weeks together fucking running around going wild. 0.97

02:17:37.000 It was awesome. 0.96

02:17:38.000 And there's so much that they can't show in that 20 minutes.

02:17:42.000 Of course. 0.99

02:17:42.000 You know, and like some really cool shit. 0.99

02:17:44.000 Yeah. 0.92

02:17:44.000 But I'm hoping to get Cam out again this year. 0.92

02:17:47.000 I've got those two buffalo hunts lined up. 0.69

02:17:50.000 And yeah, you need to come out too, which would be fucking awesome. 0.99

02:17:53.000 You're out of your fucking mind if you think I'm coming out. 0.99

02:17:55.000 I'll tell you what I was going to do. 1.00

02:17:56.000 I had it all fucking planned out. 0.86

02:17:58.000 What are you going to do? 0.99

02:17:59.000 Build a city out there?

02:18:00.000 This whole trip I've been...

02:18:01.000 No, no. 0.99

02:18:02.000 What I've been doing in America, I've been collecting fucking spiders and snakes and shit like that. 0.99

02:18:08.000 And I was going to let them all fucking go in the studio, dude. 0.99

02:18:11.000 Oh. 0.99

02:18:11.000 I was going to let them all go in the studio. 0.99

02:18:13.000 I'm like, fuck, he'll never have me on again if I do that. 0.99

02:18:16.000 But I was going to bring one in here with me. 0.99

02:18:18.000 Did you just show me?

02:18:20.000 No, I was just going to let it out halfway through the episode and see if you could carry on. 0.50

02:18:27.000 I had it all fucking lined up and then I got changed because I had to go to Arizona. 0.98

02:18:31.000 I didn't go back to Idaho where all the fucking creepies are. 0.99

02:18:35.000 I had to let them all go. 0.98

02:18:36.000 Did you go to Idaho at all this trip?

02:18:38.000 Heaps. 0.99

02:18:39.000 Idaho is fucking amazing. 0.99

02:18:41.000 Idaho might be like the undiscovered gem. 0.99

02:18:45.000 Like the unrecognized gem in this country. 0.99

02:18:48.000 There's fucking no one there, dude. 0.99

02:18:49.000 There's no one there. 0.99

02:18:50.000 There's no one there.

02:18:50.000 But Boise is fantastic.

02:18:52.000 I fucking love that city. 0.95

02:18:54.000 I had a great time there, man. 0.99

02:18:56.000 It's beautiful.

02:18:57.000 And the mountains out there are so gorgeous.

02:18:59.000 Yeah, it is.

02:18:59.000 It's a pretty place.

02:19:00.000 So our friends are based there.

02:19:02.000 So every time we fly in, every year when we fly in, I usually fly in Idaho first, right up high near Spokane, like near Washington.

02:19:09.000 And then we end up driving from there to southern Colorado, southern Colorado, New Mexico.

02:19:16.000 New Mexico, back to Southern Colorado, because Kim had a pronghorn tag still, and she ended up tagging a pronghorn. 0.99

02:19:22.000 Then, this is how much shit I've fucking done on this trip. 0.98

02:19:25.000 I had to get Kim to fucking write it down, because I'm like, where have we been? 0.99

02:19:29.000 It's been hectic. 0.98

02:19:31.000 And I think I've been to Idaho like four or five times in this trip, like back and forth, back and forth.

02:19:38.000 Wow.

02:19:38.000 Did you ever go to Coeur d'Alene?

02:19:40.000 Yep.

02:19:40.000 I haven't been yet.

02:19:41.000 That's where my friend's near, Coeur d'Alene.

02:19:42.000 It's beautiful.

02:19:43.000 I heard the water is so clear that you can see like 100 feet down the bottom. 0.95

02:19:47.000 It's a fucking nice spot. 0.95

02:19:49.000 I've got to bring up this message and read it out. 0.98

02:19:54.000 Yeah, it's been crazy.

02:19:56.000 Yeah, so we end up, we flew into Idaho, then we went to Southern Colorado, then we went to New Mexico, back to Southern Colorado, back up to Idaho, and then I end up flying out.

02:20:08.000 No, we end up driving to Eastern Oregon to hunt bull elk.

02:20:11.000 Then I end up flying out to Arizona to hunt elk as well on the Navajo reservation, which was really cool.

02:20:21.000 Then I flew to BC, hunted moose.

02:20:25.000 Then I flew back.

02:20:26.000 Then we went to Kentucky.

02:20:28.000 I drove all the way to Kentucky with the kids, which took like four or five days. 0.99

02:20:33.000 That was fucking insane. 0.97

02:20:34.000 We took our time. 0.99

02:20:35.000 We were sort of checking it out.

02:20:36.000 You know where there's nothing?

02:20:38.000 Where?

02:20:38.000 Where there's absolutely nothing.

02:20:40.000 What?

02:20:40.000 Nebraska, dude.

02:20:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:20:43.000 Holy fuck! 1.00

02:20:45.000 We drove for hours and hours through Nebraska and seen nothing but cornfields or something like that. 1.00

02:20:53.000 Sorry, anyone from Nebraska, but Nebraska was boring as fuck. 0.99

02:20:56.000 People from Nebraska right now. 1.00

02:20:57.000 Oh my gosh, they're tuning in.

02:20:59.000 Tell me about it.

02:21:00.000 I'm sure there's some pretty places.

02:21:01.000 Yeah, I don't think so.

02:21:02.000 I think they know about it.

02:21:03.000 Yeah, that's right, yeah.

02:21:04.000 Wasn't that?

02:21:05.000 Oh, Kansas was Dorothy, Wizard of Oz.

02:21:08.000 Yeah, then we went to Texas.

02:21:10.000 We drove down to Texas.

02:21:12.000 How long have you guys been here?

02:21:14.000 Four plus months.

02:21:15.000 Your kids are holding up remarkably well.

02:21:17.000 Oh, they're awesome.

02:21:18.000 They look like they're having a good old time.

02:21:20.000 Yeah, they are, yeah.

02:21:21.000 At least in front of you.

02:21:24.000 There's been some good arguments on the way, but they're pretty good. 0.97

02:21:27.000 I'm like, fuck, they're like either locked in a trailer or locked in the car or we're in like an Airbnb or something like that and they're all gathered together and And it's not until you're around other people's kids that you realise how good your own kids are. 0.98

02:21:40.000 Because I'm always like, they're naughty, you know? 1.00

02:21:42.000 And then you're around other kids and you're like, fuck, our kids are saints. 1.00

02:21:46.000 What are you, Santa Claus? 1.00

02:21:47.000 They're naughty. 0.50

02:21:49.000 They're naughty.

02:21:50.000 But yeah, then we went from Texas to Utah, hung out at Utah for a while.

02:21:54.000 Then I drove back to Colorado, come back to Utah again.

02:21:58.000 Well, what's ironic is that you as an Australian and your family as Australians are getting to see more of America than most Americans ever do.

02:22:04.000 That's what I like. 0.99

02:22:05.000 Fucking get out there and do it. 0.99

02:22:06.000 Get out there and do it. 0.99

02:22:07.000 Get out there and do it.

02:22:08.000 It's a beautiful place we live in.

02:22:09.000 Yeah.

02:22:09.000 I think some people don't have the means to.

02:22:12.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:22:12.000 And that's why people are driving through this fuck traffic every day to try and make the means to do that. 0.99

02:22:17.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:22:19.000 Yep.

02:22:19.000 Yeah.

02:22:20.000 It's a grind out there, fuckers. 1.00

02:22:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:22:22.000 It's a grind. 1.00

02:22:23.000 Yeah, the traffic does my fucking head in. 1.00

02:22:25.000 Concrete does my head in. 1.00

02:22:27.000 Mass people do my head in. 1.00

02:22:28.000 Like, I'm walking around Disney like, fuck. 1.00

02:22:31.000 But isn't it fun to do, like, every now and again? 1.00

02:22:33.000 It is, yeah.

02:22:33.000 I like to go to New York City every now and again.

02:22:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:22:35.000 Just go, Jesus, all these fucking people. 1.00

02:22:38.000 Have you been to New York City? 1.00

02:22:39.000 Yeah, I have, yeah.

02:22:40.000 Yeah, it's crazy. 0.99

02:22:41.000 That's the trippiest trip in all of this fucking wild-ass country. 1.00

02:22:44.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:22:44.000 I think, look, the reason why hunters get so much flack from a lot of people is because they are stuck in that. 0.99

02:22:51.000 They don't know the other end of things.

02:22:53.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:22:54.000 You know, they don't know the wilderness side of things because they're fucking jammed in there. 0.94

02:22:57.000 I always think, like, that's why I love promoting it as well so much. 0.96

02:23:00.000 Like, people don't even know about this.

02:23:02.000 They don't even know it exists.

02:23:03.000 They don't even know this is something you can do.

02:23:04.000 They don't know the rewards from it.

02:23:06.000 Also, they feel morally detached from the food that they're eating.

02:23:09.000 Like, they don't feel like an obligation to their food.

02:23:12.000 They don't feel like...

02:23:15.000 I mean, it's just a stake.

02:23:17.000 There's no connection.

02:23:19.000 And because of that, they don't feel like they did anything wrong.

02:23:22.000 No, that's right.

02:23:22.000 Whereas, you know, if you shoot a fawn, and you're like, oh, you shot a baby?

02:23:27.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:23:29.000 What do you think your veal is, stupid? 1.00

02:23:31.000 What do you think lamb is? 1.00

02:23:34.000 Did you order the rack of lamb?

02:23:35.000 Yeah, you ordered a baby.

02:23:37.000 That's a baby. 1.00

02:23:38.000 Lamb is a baby sheep, you fuck. 1.00

02:23:40.000 But most people don't know that. 1.00

02:23:41.000 It's weird.

02:23:41.000 So I don't hate on it because I understand it.

02:23:44.000 The population of the world demands that.

02:23:46.000 But if someone hates on me for it, then you've got to point it out.

02:23:50.000 I'm still not hating on it.

02:23:51.000 I'm just pointing it out.

02:23:52.000 You're doing the same thing, but someone else is doing it for you.

02:23:55.000 Yeah, it's out of ignorance, for sure.

02:23:57.000 Yeah, and even if you're a vegan or a vegetarian, you know, that still kills animals.

02:24:02.000 Like, have a look at the cleared land.

02:24:04.000 To be a vegan, they need the clear land, you know?

02:24:07.000 So it's like, that's that whole middle ground again.

02:24:09.000 Yeah, unless you were running an organic farm yourself.

02:24:22.000 Well, on top of that, you wouldn't be able to just let those animals loose.

02:24:29.000 No, that's right.

02:24:31.000 Oh, yeah.

02:25:00.000 I think your perspective is very healthy, that it's good to have these extreme animal rights activists because it balances everything out.

02:25:06.000 We need balance in this world.

02:25:08.000 Yeah, I agree. 0.99

02:25:09.000 Just don't fucking mouth off at me about it. 1.00

02:25:11.000 Don't mouth off, you cunts. 1.00

02:25:12.000 That's all it is, you cunts. 1.00

02:25:13.000 Why does cunts sound so much better with an Australian accent? 1.00

02:25:15.000 Because it's so normal in Australia. 0.97

02:25:19.000 That's what it is.

02:25:20.000 Even when your wife says it, it's just like, it's normal.

02:25:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:25:22.000 It's normal.

02:25:23.000 So, our friend Sam Soholt, which he put up a post and it was about some politician.

02:25:30.000 I got his shirt right here.

02:25:30.000 Yeah, there you go.

02:25:31.000 Beautiful.

02:25:32.000 I was wearing his shirt earlier.

02:25:33.000 He makes some awesome shirts.

02:25:34.000 Yeah.

02:25:35.000 I was sweating it, otherwise I'd wear it here.

02:25:37.000 Public landowner.

02:25:40.000 That's it, baby.

02:25:40.000 Shout out to Sam.

02:25:41.000 Hell yeah.

02:25:42.000 My boy. 0.97

02:25:43.000 So he put this post up and it's about this politician that, you know, he goes, you know, it's a pretty decent fucking writing that he's done up about, you know, how the guy's not doing his job and stuff like that. 0.78

02:25:53.000 And they're going to take this public land away from us or close it. 0.99

02:25:56.000 And in the comments, I'm like, so basically what you're saying is he's a cunt. 0.99

02:26:03.000 And like, we can get there a lot quicker. 1.00

02:26:06.000 This dude's a cunt. 1.00

02:26:07.000 He's not doing his job. 1.00

02:26:08.000 And fuck, some people took offense to it. 0.99

02:26:12.000 But Sam explained to him, he's like, he's an Australian, it's very normal. 1.00

02:26:16.000 It's a prisoner. 0.98

02:26:18.000 But out here, it's like, you're Satan! 0.80

02:26:21.000 Oh, yeah.

02:26:21.000 You know, it's like saying, I'm not even going to say it.

02:26:24.000 I know. 1.00

02:26:24.000 Oh, fuck it. 1.00

02:26:24.000 It's a bad word. 1.00

02:26:26.000 It's a bad word.

02:26:26.000 Yeah, it's not.

02:26:27.000 Like, over there, it's like a gentle... 1.00

02:26:29.000 It's like, fucker. 1.00

02:26:30.000 Hey, fucker. 1.00

02:26:31.000 What up, fucker? 1.00

02:26:32.000 Like, if Jamie walked in here and go, hey, fucker, and if he said that to me, I'd be like, hey, what's up? 1.00

02:26:37.000 It would be normal. 0.99

02:26:38.000 There's four things you can't do.

02:26:40.000 You can't say anything bad about white tower hunting. 1.00

02:26:42.000 You can't say anything bad about fucking Jesus. 1.00

02:26:45.000 You can't say the word cunt. 1.00

02:26:47.000 And I can't remember what the fourth one was. 0.98

02:26:50.000 It might have been something about the American flag. 0.99

02:26:52.000 Like, fucking don't go there. 0.99

02:26:54.000 Leave the flag alone, sir. 1.00

02:26:56.000 Don't go there.

02:26:57.000 Leave the flag alone. 1.00

02:26:57.000 That fucking flag is beautiful. 1.00

02:26:59.000 That motherfucker out there, son. 1.00

02:27:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:27:01.000 All right. 1.00

02:27:02.000 Dude, we just did three hours again.

02:27:03.000 Wow.

02:27:04.000 Just flew by.

02:27:05.000 Wow. 1.00

02:27:05.000 It's because of this fucking crazy coffee. 1.00

02:27:07.000 There's coffee, there's rooms. 1.00

02:27:09.000 Room's a goddamn time walk. 1.00

02:27:10.000 Fuck, I wanted Kanye to be in here at the same time so we can gang up on him and talk him into bow hunting. 1.00

02:27:14.000 We got this little Kanye. 1.00

02:27:15.000 We got little Kanye right here.

02:27:16.000 Killer Mike's coming on the podcast soon.

02:27:18.000 He said that he wants to go elk hunting with me, but his wife won't let him hunt with white people. 0.97

02:27:24.000 I told her that I'm 1.6% African, so we'll see what we can do.

02:27:28.000 Thanks for having me on the show.

02:27:29.000 My pleasure, brother.

02:27:30.000 It's always a good time to see you, my friend.

02:27:32.000 And we've got to schedule another Lanai trip.

02:27:34.000 Hell yeah.

02:27:35.000 Or Northern Territory Australia.

02:27:37.000 Or Lanai.

02:27:38.000 Stay at the Four Seasons.

02:27:40.000 Love you, buddy.

02:27:43.000 That was cool.

02:27:44.000 It always is.

The Joe Rogan Experience - January 14, 2019

Joe Rogan Experience #1224 - Adam Greentree

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