The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1314 - Charlamagne tha God & Andrew Schulz

00:00:01.000 Boom, and we're live.

00:00:03.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Charlemagne, the God, my man, Andrew Schultz, thank you for being here.

00:00:07.000 Thank you for setting this up.

00:00:08.000 Thank you for having me, sir.

00:00:09.000 My pleasure.

00:00:10.000 I've been a fan of yours for a while.

00:00:11.000 I think you're the last great radio host, and you will be the last famous radio host, because I think radio is a dying thing.

00:00:18.000 You're the last great one.

00:00:19.000 You're the one who made it famous from radio. 0.99

00:00:22.000 Who the fuck else? 0.99

00:00:23.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:00:23.000 In this era? 0.99

00:00:25.000 I mean, yeah, I think radio is like one of those rare lanes where it's really not a lot of people who prosper in it.

00:00:32.000 Yeah.

00:00:33.000 You know what I mean?

00:00:33.000 Especially in the black radio space.

00:00:36.000 I mean, you've got the Tom Joyners, the Doug Banks, the Wendy Williams.

00:00:40.000 So it's rare in that lane.

00:00:42.000 But I think you've got people that have established good careers in radio.

00:00:45.000 But that's a great question.

00:00:47.000 Who is the last one?

00:00:48.000 He's the last one.

00:00:49.000 That's the last samurai.

00:00:50.000 You're the last person to become famous from radio.

00:00:52.000 100%.

00:00:52.000 Last samurai.

00:00:53.000 Okay.

00:00:53.000 I gotta give Bobby Bones.

00:00:56.000 Bobby Bones.

00:00:56.000 Well, that's nice.

00:00:57.000 I don't know who that is.

00:01:01.000 Shots fired!

00:01:02.000 Shots fired!

00:01:03.000 I know who you are!

00:01:04.000 Sorry, Bobby.

00:01:05.000 No disrespect.

00:01:06.000 I'm sure he's great.

00:01:07.000 He's a nationally syndicated radio host, but he's on the country stage.

00:01:10.000 He just won Dancing with the Stars.

00:01:11.000 Oh, okay.

00:01:12.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:01:13.000 Joe's like, I don't give a shit. 0.98

00:01:15.000 I only know Bobby B as you talk about him. 0.99

00:01:17.000 Really?

00:01:17.000 Yeah.

00:01:17.000 Yeah, he's got two New York Times bestselling books.

00:01:21.000 That's one of those things, though.

00:01:22.000 It's like comedians.

00:01:23.000 You talk about a comic that everybody loves, and people are like, I've never heard of him.

00:01:27.000 Like, amongst comics, super respected.

00:01:30.000 Bobby, he hosts on Idol now.

00:01:32.000 Oh, okay.

00:01:32.000 Yeah, and we're around the same age, so I would have to give it, I would have to put him in that.

00:01:36.000 Well, you and Bobby.

00:01:36.000 You're a gracious man.

00:01:38.000 Yeah.

00:01:38.000 In my opinion, you're the last samurai.

00:01:40.000 Dude, it's true.

00:01:41.000 It's a dead era.

00:01:42.000 It's true.

00:01:43.000 I see guys like you, I just want to snatch you up and bring you over to podcasts. 1.00

00:01:46.000 I'm like, get the fuck out of there. 0.99

00:01:47.000 Get out of that censored boss man world. 0.99

00:01:50.000 You know what's interesting?

00:01:51.000 Keep going.

00:01:52.000 Keep going on this.

00:01:53.000 I know you guys have a podcast together. 1.00

00:01:55.000 Brilliant idiots. 1.00

00:01:56.000 You know PodTrack, right? 1.00

00:01:58.000 Yeah, sure, sure.

00:01:59.000 We just cracked PodTrack, the Breakfast Club.

00:02:01.000 He's number 20 on PodTrack.

00:02:02.000 Okay, so you put that online as well.

00:02:03.000 Yeah, we put it out as a podcast.

00:02:05.000 Because I feel like with radio, that's what it is.

00:02:06.000 People still listen to terrestrial radio, but you have to go where the people are.

00:02:10.000 So you have to have the podcast.

00:02:11.000 You have to have the YouTube following.

00:02:13.000 You can't wait for people just to come to radio every day.

00:02:15.000 I wish I could swear, though.

00:02:17.000 So that's the problem with radio.

00:02:18.000 Well, they do.

00:02:18.000 That's the thing.

00:02:19.000 So they release all the interviews they do on Breakfast Club, and those things explode.

00:02:24.000 Yeah, on YouTube.

00:02:24.000 And they have all the curses and everything like that.

00:02:27.000 That's where I found out about it.

00:02:27.000 Exactly.

00:02:27.000 I think that's where most people globally would watch and listen.

00:02:31.000 I mean, right?

00:02:32.000 Yeah, that's what separates this era of radio from other eras of radio.

00:02:36.000 Howard Stern didn't have...

00:02:48.000 He took the check.

00:02:53.000 But then you get financial independence, man.

00:02:56.000 Let's be realistic.

00:02:57.000 He was already financially independent.

00:02:58.000 So why'd he do it?

00:03:00.000 The numbers they're throwing at him.

00:03:02.000 Yeah, that was a different level.

00:03:03.000 It was $300 million, right?

00:03:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:04.000 Well, I think that was just initially.

00:03:06.000 Yeah, that's the difference.

00:03:07.000 I think he makes like $100 million every year or something crazy.

00:03:09.000 So $300 million was flat and then another $100 million.

00:03:12.000 And then he has so much stock.

00:03:13.000 That's the difference between your kids being scraped and your great-great-great-grandkids being scraped.

00:03:17.000 Right.

00:03:18.000 Yeah, but stock in serious to me is like blockbuster stock.

00:03:23.000 Hang on to that. 0.62

00:03:31.000 I remember when Netflix used to have those DVDs that you would get like in front of the fucking supermarket and you have to send them back. 0.72

00:03:39.000 I'm not sending this back. 0.83

00:03:41.000 No, I was so funny.

00:03:42.000 I was home this weekend.

00:03:43.000 I was in Monks Corner, South Carolina, and there was a Black Panther DVD from the library in my mom's house. 1.00

00:03:50.000 I'm like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:03:52.000 The library? 1.00

00:03:52.000 Wait a minute. 1.00

00:03:53.000 Black Panther isn't the original Black Panthers? 0.78

00:03:55.000 No, the movie that just came out.

00:03:57.000 I was like, yo, she was true from back in the day.

00:04:00.000 Okay.

00:04:01.000 That's an original Black Panther. 0.96

00:04:03.000 I'm like, who got the Black Panther DVD that they checked out from the library and have not bought it back yet?

00:04:07.000 You didn't even bring it back to the library yet?

00:04:08.000 No, you don't have to.

00:04:09.000 What are they really going to do?

00:04:11.000 Why would you bring the Black Panther from the library?

00:04:14.000 Because you wanted it and it was there and you were at the library.

00:04:16.000 I'm still trying to understand why you call it library.

00:04:18.000 What is it?

00:04:19.000 Library. 0.99

00:04:20.000 I don't fucking know. 0.98

00:04:21.000 I didn't graduate college. 0.99

00:04:22.000 Library.

00:04:22.000 It's like...

00:04:23.000 Library.

00:04:24.000 Yeah.

00:04:24.000 It's one of those words, you know?

00:04:27.000 Don't bail him out!

00:04:28.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:04:30.000 Like, especially?

00:04:31.000 You talk to people in Texas, they say, especially.

00:04:33.000 But everyone, even like George Bush, when he was president, would say, especially.

00:04:38.000 That's a Texas thing.

00:04:39.000 Yeah, I think a lot of it has to do with region, because I still say, street, street, strong.

00:04:45.000 Okay.

00:04:45.000 Yeah.

00:04:49.000 That's how I pronounce it.

00:04:50.000 Screech, screech, scrum.

00:04:51.000 I get it.

00:04:53.000 Scrumptious.

00:04:54.000 I say pacifically.

00:04:56.000 Oh, pacifically.

00:04:57.000 Pacifically instead of specifically.

00:04:59.000 As long as everybody knows, then it's fun.

00:05:01.000 That's the point.

00:05:02.000 If you understand what a person is saying, why correct them? 0.99

00:05:04.000 He's been a dick. 0.99

00:05:05.000 Well, it's like dialects. 1.00

00:05:08.000 Like, my grandparents were from Sicily, and they would talk in dialects, and even people that knew Italian wouldn't know what the fuck they were saying.

00:05:14.000 Like, people that knew pure Italian. 0.99

00:05:17.000 It's some weird, like, pig Latin type shit. 1.00

00:05:19.000 I mean, my mom's Scottish. 1.00

00:05:21.000 Like, if you listen to real Scottish people talk, you don't understand what the fuck they're talking about. 0.99

00:05:25.000 Oh, that accent. 0.99

00:05:26.000 The way they roll their words together.

00:05:28.000 Thick.

00:05:29.000 And then they get them drunk?

00:05:30.000 Oof.

00:05:31.000 It's impossible.

00:05:32.000 Oof.

00:05:32.000 Where you from, Joe?

00:05:33.000 I was born in New Jersey, and I grew up mostly in Boston, but really all over the country.

00:05:38.000 Because you've got a lot of sovereign sensibilities.

00:05:40.000 Before we started the podcast, you were talking about all the hunting that you do.

00:05:43.000 I didn't get into that until 2012. Wow.

00:05:46.000 Why?

00:05:47.000 Because I was thinking about being a vegetarian. 1.00

00:05:48.000 I was watching these animal rights videos, these PETA videos, and I was like, I don't want to participate in this factory farming shit. 1.00

00:05:56.000 It's fucked up. 1.00

00:05:57.000 You watch these pigs slammed into these cages together, and cows, and chickens. 1.00

00:06:01.000 I was like, This is inhumane.

00:06:03.000 It's insane. 1.00

00:06:04.000 But then you decided to go out and start killing them yourself? 1.00

00:06:05.000 I decided one of two things. 0.76

00:06:07.000 Either I was going to try hunting, and either I was going to become a vegetarian, or I was going to become a hunter.

00:06:12.000 And so I became a hunter.

00:06:13.000 I did it.

00:06:14.000 I killed a deer.

00:06:15.000 I ate it.

00:06:15.000 I was like, this is perfect.

00:06:16.000 I love this.

00:06:17.000 Oh, I'm trying to figure out.

00:06:18.000 This makes sense.

00:06:18.000 I'm trying to figure out the thought process.

00:06:20.000 You watched videos where you saw that it was inhumane for these animals to be dying.

00:06:25.000 No, no, no. 0.99

00:06:25.000 And that made you want to kill them? 0.99

00:06:26.000 Factory farming. 1.00

00:06:27.000 Factory farming.

00:06:28.000 Factory farming.

00:06:28.000 Not that they're...

00:06:29.000 Look, every animal dies.

00:06:31.000 They don't live forever and become angels.

00:06:32.000 They live in the wild.

00:06:34.000 When you hunt, you dip your feet into the wild.

00:06:37.000 You go out there and you fair chase.

00:06:39.000 You go find them.

00:06:40.000 You track them.

00:06:41.000 You stay downwind.

00:06:42.000 You get in a good position. 1.00

00:06:44.000 You kill them. 1.00

00:06:45.000 And then you eat them. 1.00

00:06:46.000 And it's a different animal.

00:06:47.000 When you're eating that, like if I eat an elk steak, I know that I killed that.

00:06:52.000 It's delicious.

00:06:52.000 Yeah.

00:06:53.000 I know that.

00:06:53.000 I was there.

00:06:54.000 Can I see a picture of this elk?

00:06:55.000 I'm still trying to imagine what it is because I understand deer and I understand moose.

00:06:59.000 It's a giant deer.

00:07:01.000 Those antlers are from the elk.

00:07:03.000 Those antlers are on like an 800 pound animal.

00:07:05.000 How tall is it?

00:07:06.000 It's huge.

00:07:07.000 They're big.

00:07:07.000 Like six feet?

00:07:08.000 Oh, taller.

00:07:09.000 Yeah.

00:07:11.000 Elk and mushroom.

00:07:13.000 Moose is crazy.

00:07:14.000 The first time I saw a moose, it was like that scene in Jurassic Park where Jeff Goldblum looks out the Jeep and sees the dinosaur.

00:07:19.000 I was like...

00:07:21.000 You can't believe how big a moose is.

00:07:22.000 Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a moose in person.

00:07:24.000 I've seen an elk in person.

00:07:24.000 They're double an elk.

00:07:25.000 They're double the size of an elk.

00:07:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:07:27.000 We need to go hunting, man.

00:07:28.000 You want to go hunting?

00:07:28.000 I'm being dead serious about this.

00:07:29.000 I would love to take you hunting.

00:07:30.000 Camping and hunting where it's one or the other.

00:07:32.000 Well, you could do both.

00:07:34.000 Okay.

00:07:34.000 Or you would want to do...

00:07:35.000 Well, you could camp...

00:07:36.000 Or you could hunt, rather, and then stay in a nice lodge.

00:07:39.000 That's the move.

00:07:40.000 Yeah, but also, I kind of want to do, like, the...

00:07:42.000 The full outdoor.

00:07:43.000 Yeah, because sometimes I watch those shows on, like, Nat Geo or something like that, and they're just living off the land, and they've got to, like, make a hut or make a yurt, you know?

00:07:51.000 They make it out of snow.

00:07:52.000 Yeah, don't do that.

00:07:53.000 Don't do that.

00:07:54.000 No.

00:07:54.000 But what for like two days?

00:07:56.000 Like a cool... 0.70

00:07:56.000 What you want is like a real tent with a real sleeping bag so you stay warm and you're healthy and you're not worried about fucking freezing to death or anything weird like that. 0.70

00:08:07.000 Yeah.

00:08:07.000 And make sure you have water filters so you can drink out of a stream.

00:08:10.000 If you really want to do that.

00:08:11.000 Yeah.

00:08:12.000 Yeah.

00:08:12.000 I want to try it.

00:08:14.000 You should try hunting in New York.

00:08:15.000 Like nobody's ever done that.

00:08:16.000 You can hunt rats.

00:08:19.000 I'm serious. 0.99

00:08:19.000 Think about all them big-ass rats in New York. 0.99

00:08:22.000 Nobody's ever done that. 0.99

00:08:23.000 I'm not gonna lie. 1.00

00:08:24.000 You'll probably get a lot of attention for that shit. 1.00

00:08:25.000 Bro, back in the day, you could go to 125th Street in Spanish Harlem, and you could buy pigeons. 1.00

00:08:30.000 People were catching pigeons, and they were selling them and trying to front like they were exotic pigeons. 0.99

00:08:35.000 Bullshit. 1.00

00:08:35.000 I swear to God in my life. 1.00

00:08:36.000 Well, you know, pigeons were brought over here for food.

00:08:38.000 That's what squab is. 0.99

00:08:39.000 What the fuck is squab? 0.99

00:08:40.000 Squab is like a bougie restaurant item, and it's actually young pigeons. 0.99

00:08:46.000 Really?

00:08:46.000 Yeah, that's what squab is.

00:08:49.000 I didn't know that.

00:08:50.000 All pigeons, all the pigeons you see in the United States are all brought in from somewhere else for food, and then they release to become feral.

00:08:57.000 They're like the wild hogs of the bird world. 1.00

00:08:59.000 What are young rats called that are used for food?

00:09:01.000 That's a good question.

00:09:02.000 Who uses young rats for food? 0.98

00:09:03.000 I don't know.

00:09:04.000 But there's a comic.

00:09:05.000 Oh, is it that rats documentary?

00:09:07.000 No, this is just the dogs that hunt rats in New York.

00:09:09.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:09:10.000 I don't believe that shit. 1.00

00:09:12.000 What do you mean you don't believe it? 1.00

00:09:13.000 That they're really guys sending their dogs out to go get rats in the city.

00:09:16.000 Oh, they are?

00:09:16.000 But for what?

00:09:17.000 There's so many rats. 1.00

00:09:18.000 Because they're assholes. 1.00

00:09:19.000 Yeah, I guess. 1.00

00:09:19.000 I mean, they're not going to fix it. 1.00

00:09:21.000 There's no way to fix it. 1.00

00:09:22.000 But Jack Russell Terriers, they fuck rats up. 1.00

00:09:24.000 They're designed to fuck rats up. 1.00

00:09:26.000 But there's got to be people who live up north in New York who have the same desire to hunt. 1.00

00:09:30.000 They just don't go down south, so why not go hunt the rats?

00:09:33.000 They hunt deer.

00:09:34.000 New York has a lot of deer.

00:09:35.000 Jersey.

00:09:36.000 Yeah, Jersey.

00:09:36.000 Jersey got a lot of deer.

00:09:37.000 I live in Jersey, and that's one of the reasons I love Jersey, because I'm from South Carolina, so I'm used to seeing deers and possums and just different types of wildlife running through the streets.

00:09:46.000 That's why I like living in Jersey.

00:09:47.000 Yeah, Jersey's an unusual place.

00:09:49.000 Jersey has more black bears per capita than any state in the United States.

00:09:53.000 I don't know if that's a fact, but I believe you because I've seen them myself.

00:09:55.000 Yeah, they're everywhere.

00:09:56.000 You've seen bears on your property.

00:09:58.000 Not on my property, but when I used to stay with my aunt in the Poconos, the bears used to come in her backyard because there was like a scream in the backyard, and they would come in there and just grab fish out of the screen.

00:10:08.000 They killed a kid.

00:10:09.000 One bear killed a kid a couple years ago from one of the colleges.

00:10:12.000 What college was it?

00:10:13.000 The one near New Brunswick?

00:10:14.000 What was it?

00:10:14.000 It was right.

00:10:15.000 Records, yeah.

00:10:16.000 And you've never seen the video in Jersey of the walking bear, the bear that would walk on two feet through people's back.

00:10:20.000 Yeah.

00:10:20.000 It had a bad fat paw.

00:10:22.000 No.

00:10:23.000 Hell yeah. 1.00

00:10:24.000 That shit happens. 1.00

00:10:25.000 There it is. 1.00

00:10:25.000 Look at it. 1.00

00:10:26.000 Look at the video.

00:10:27.000 The bear walking around.

00:10:29.000 Oh, yeah.

00:10:29.000 Look at that.

00:10:31.000 Bigfoot.

00:10:31.000 Yeah, you know who believes in Bigfoot?

00:10:33.000 Yeah.

00:10:33.000 You have a believer in the studio right now.

00:10:36.000 Who believes in Bigfoot?

00:10:37.000 Do you really?

00:10:38.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:10:39.000 No, no, 100% believes in Bigfoot.

00:10:42.000 But you know why I believe in Bigfoot? 1.00

00:10:44.000 Because of shit like mooses. 1.00

00:10:45.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:10:46.000 I'm serious. 1.00

00:10:50.000 If you see a fucking species like a moose, you're like, my God! 1.00

00:10:56.000 Why would you not believe? 1.00

00:10:57.000 Look at that shit! 1.00

00:10:58.000 At some point in life, somebody was trying to explain that to somebody else, and he was like, man, get the fuck out of here. 1.00

00:11:03.000 Right now, when he's trying to explain it to me. 0.99

00:11:05.000 Look at the size of that goddamn thing. 0.99

00:11:06.000 Yeah, that's insane and elegant. 1.00

00:11:08.000 Look at those legs. 1.00

00:11:09.000 Work. 1.00

00:11:09.000 They'll fuck you up, too. 1.00

00:11:10.000 Those are the rare deer species that will fucking stomp you to death. 1.00

00:11:14.000 Yeah, they're used to dealing with wolves. 1.00

00:11:16.000 If they think you're a threat, they just run up on you and stomp you to death.

00:11:19.000 Why don't you believe in Bigfoot?

00:11:21.000 Well, I actually did a television show where I went hunting for them.

00:11:24.000 You were going to do it on Finding Bigfoot?

00:11:26.000 No, no, no.

00:11:26.000 I did a show called Joe Rogan Questions Everything.

00:11:28.000 We spent a whole week in the Pacific Northwest talking to Bigfoot hunters.

00:11:32.000 We camped out there.

00:11:33.000 Me and Duncan Trussell went and interviewed scientists and interviewed all these different archaeologists, all these different people that didn't believe and did believe.

00:11:42.000 It was a real animal at one point in time.

00:11:44.000 Yes.

00:11:44.000 I don't think it exists now.

00:11:46.000 I think it existed. 1.00

00:11:47.000 It's just a primate in the fucking woods. 1.00

00:11:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:11:48.000 Oh, okay. 1.00

00:11:49.000 You don't think it existed.

00:11:50.000 Oh, I thought you believed that it exists now.

00:11:51.000 I did up to a certain point, but I was like, in this era with all of the cameras and everything else, somebody would have caught one.

00:11:56.000 Okay, good.

00:11:57.000 I was a little worried.

00:11:59.000 No, I was like, I don't believe in it now.

00:12:01.000 I believe it existed at some point, but I don't believe it exists anymore.

00:12:05.000 Let me tell you something. 0.99

00:12:05.000 Charlemagne has this amazing power to manifest shit. 0.99

00:12:08.000 Okay? 1.00

00:12:09.000 So, I see...

00:12:11.000 How it could lend itself, when you believe something so much it becomes real, right?

00:12:16.000 I can see how it manifests itself into things like Bigfoot.

00:12:19.000 Like, you believe in things.

00:12:22.000 I mean, Sasquatch, it's not a far-fetched idea.

00:12:25.000 It's literally just a primate in the woods.

00:12:27.000 I'm just saying, when you were young and you believed that you were Teen Wolf.

00:12:30.000 Yes, that was true.

00:12:31.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:12:35.000 I'm in third grade.

00:12:36.000 I did.

00:12:36.000 But he believed that his ears actually changed shape.

00:12:40.000 No, they did.

00:12:41.000 I was sitting at the lunch table.

00:12:43.000 I was sitting at the lunch table and I was telling everybody I was going to turn into this werewolf at lunchtime.

00:12:49.000 And I was saying this for like a week straight and we was all sitting at the table and I was just sitting there like, it's going to happen.

00:12:55.000 It's happening.

00:12:56.000 It's happening.

00:12:57.000 And my ears actually went from round to pointy for like two seconds.

00:13:02.000 And when all the kids at the table saw it and jumped up and ran, so they fucked up my concentration.

00:13:08.000 So if I had kept that concentration going, I probably would have turned full-fledged werewolf in that moment.

00:13:13.000 Maybe levitated.

00:13:14.000 Possible.

00:13:14.000 I've done that before.

00:13:15.000 Really?

00:13:16.000 Oh yeah, I grew up Jehovah Witness so I used to leave the Kingdom Hall and I would walk outside of the Kingdom Hall and I would like jump in the air and be looking down at the Kingdom Hall and I'd stay up there for a while and then I would come down.

00:13:28.000 But here's the thing.

00:13:29.000 He's not doing bits, right? 1.00

00:13:31.000 He really believes this shit. 0.99

00:13:33.000 I'm just telling you what happened in my life. 1.00

00:13:35.000 If you believe it, you believe it.

00:13:36.000 If you don't, you don't.

00:13:37.000 Memory's a strange thing.

00:13:38.000 Ah, you think it's one of those, like, you recreate the past?

00:13:41.000 Well, memory's a strange thing.

00:13:42.000 Like, you can believe something and know something to be true when it didn't actually happen.

00:13:48.000 You can absolutely do that.

00:13:51.000 People have memories in their head that never happened.

00:13:54.000 You have memories that people have positioned in your head.

00:13:57.000 They've proven that you can talk someone into a memory.

00:14:00.000 You can change someone's memory.

00:14:01.000 That's why it's particularly dangerous for kids.

00:14:03.000 There was a whole case where they were talking kids into saying that their teachers molested them.

00:14:08.000 And all these people lost their careers, lost their lives.

00:14:11.000 It turned out it was all 100% made up.

00:14:12.000 But those kids believed it.

00:14:14.000 They believed when they were telling them that they were molested.

00:14:16.000 They believed it.

00:14:18.000 They're coached into it.

00:14:19.000 What is it called when you give that information to the police?

00:14:22.000 What is it called when they interrogate you?

00:14:23.000 They coerce you.

00:14:26.000 There was a whole article I was reading the other day about why people make false confessions.

00:14:31.000 Why?

00:14:31.000 They just get talked into believing that they actually did something.

00:14:34.000 If you're a kid, especially a young kid from the hood, and you're like 15, 16 years old, and the police are like, you're going to jail for 20 years if you don't tell us what we need to know. 0.99

00:14:41.000 You don't fucking know no better. 0.97

00:14:42.000 Not only that, they put you under duress. 0.99

00:14:44.000 They put you in a room.

00:14:46.000 They sit you across from a position of authority, and this person questions you.

00:14:49.000 You start talking.

00:14:51.000 You start saying things that aren't true.

00:14:52.000 You seem beyond scared straight. 0.97

00:14:54.000 They tell you you're going to get 20 years and get buttfucked for 15 of them. 0.80

00:14:57.000 So the first five, they let you kind of settle in for the first five. 1.00

00:15:02.000 Yeah, you know the butt fucking coming. 1.00

00:15:04.000 Let that butt get nice and tight. 1.00

00:15:06.000 Let that butt dry age. 1.00

00:15:08.000 Like some elk. 0.99

00:15:11.000 Listen, you might go in underage.

00:15:13.000 These criminals got morals and values. 0.99

00:15:15.000 They're going to rape you, but not until you're 18. Come on now. 1.00

00:15:19.000 They're not monsters.

00:15:20.000 Listen, when I was young, I used to have a red tractor trailer.

00:15:23.000 It was a red plastic trailer with a farmer on top of it.

00:15:26.000 Like one of those hard plastic trailers. 1.00

00:15:28.000 That farmer used to get off that trailer and fuck with me. 0.99

00:15:31.000 And I took it in the yard one day, put kerosene on it, and set it on fire. 0.99

00:15:35.000 And in my mind, I remember hearing that farmer scream. 0.99

00:15:40.000 My mom will even tell you the story of how I used to always talk about how this fucking farmer used to come off of this tractor and fuck with me, and she saw me set it on fire. 0.99

00:15:48.000 And I thought I was crazy until years later I met Tiffany Haddish, and she said she had experiences where her teddy bears used to come to life and fuck with her. 0.99

00:15:56.000 So, I'm just saying. 0.99

00:15:58.000 I'm just saying. 1.00

00:16:00.000 Shit happens. 1.00

00:16:01.000 Did it happen at night? 1.00

00:16:02.000 I haven't heard this story.

00:16:03.000 Did it happen at night?

00:16:04.000 When did it happen?

00:16:04.000 I don't remember.

00:16:06.000 I don't remember the details of when it was at night or during the day.

00:16:10.000 That's one of those things they're trying to figure out with UFO abductions. 0.52

00:16:13.000 Okay.

00:16:13.000 Almost all those UFO abductions happen while people are sleeping.

00:16:17.000 And they think what's happening is your brain is releasing endogenous psychedelic chemicals and it's forcing you to have these hallucinations.

00:16:25.000 Question.

00:16:28.000 Question.

00:16:31.000 Question.

00:16:32.000 Question.

00:16:39.000 The hag, that's a term, right? 1.00

00:16:40.000 They really call it sleep paralysis. 0.98

00:16:43.000 But growing up in South Carolina, they would say the hag was riding you. 1.00

00:16:46.000 Okay. 1.00

00:16:46.000 What the fuck is that? 1.00

00:16:48.000 You would either put a straw broom at your door or you would take salt and sprinkle salt at your door because when the hag enters your room, you got to pick up every kernel of salt. 1.00

00:16:55.000 So by the time he picks up every kernel of salt, it's fucking daytime. 0.99

00:16:58.000 What is a hag? 1.00

00:16:59.000 A hag was like these little old women that they say would come ride people in the middle of the night. 1.00

00:17:05.000 Whoa. 0.86

00:17:05.000 I think I've seen him before, but it really looks like just a shadowy figure. 0.86

00:17:09.000 And it's the same feeling.

00:17:10.000 You get that feeling like your body is frozen.

00:17:12.000 It can't move.

00:17:13.000 Your eyes are open.

00:17:14.000 Yes.

00:17:14.000 But you feel like you're talking, but nobody hears you.

00:17:17.000 They say that's the hag ride. 1.00

00:17:19.000 What do they say that is?

00:17:20.000 Sleep paralysis?

00:17:22.000 Sleep paralysis.

00:17:22.000 The blood's not flowing in your body.

00:17:24.000 It's like when you're sitting on the toilet too long and your fucking leg goes. 1.00

00:17:26.000 And your legs go. 0.99

00:17:27.000 I think it's a psychological thing.

00:17:29.000 Your brain is just not sending signals to your body, but you want to move and you just don't.

00:17:33.000 Dude.

00:17:34.000 I got to move, but I can't.

00:17:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:17:36.000 No, that shit is frightening. 1.00

00:17:37.000 I had that before. 1.00

00:17:39.000 I've had that before.

00:17:40.000 When I woke up, you've seen the movie Signs?

00:17:43.000 Yeah.

00:17:43.000 So it was this creature that looked like he was from the movie Signs, but it was purple and black and it was standing over me.

00:17:49.000 And I couldn't...

00:17:50.000 Move.

00:17:50.000 And so I was making noises, trying to get it to go away, and as the sun came up, it just faded away.

00:17:54.000 Now that, I don't know if it was a dream, or an actual visit from extraterrestrials.

00:17:59.000 It could be.

00:18:00.000 The thing about extraterrestrials...

00:18:01.000 You believe in them?

00:18:03.000 Well...

00:18:03.000 You know I believe in them.

00:18:05.000 Well, you believe in everything.

00:18:06.000 The reality is...

00:18:07.000 You believe in toys that can harass you as a child.

00:18:09.000 There's no evidence but the numbers of humans, I mean the numbers of planets rather, that could support humans.

00:18:16.000 They're pretty, just what we've documented so far is pretty interesting.

00:18:20.000 Just what they know about the thousands of planets they discover.

00:18:23.000 There's hundreds that could possibly support human life.

00:18:26.000 And then there's hundreds of billions of galaxies.

00:18:29.000 So the idea that we're the only one. 0.98

00:18:31.000 Not only that, Neil deGrasse Tyson explained this to me because this is a mindfuck and a half.

00:18:35.000 That the universe is so big that not only...

00:18:39.000 Is there another you out there that has done everything exactly as you've done?

00:18:46.000 Every pause?

00:18:47.000 Like that pause?

00:18:49.000 Every pause, down to the second, an infinite number of times.

00:18:53.000 Yeah, you're talking about, is it called the infinite universes?

00:18:58.000 There's this exact conversation happening with people who look exactly like that because infinity implies that there could be a million.

00:19:03.000 And infinite variations.

00:19:04.000 There's one where you get up right now and you have to take a piss and you run out of the room.

00:19:08.000 Or Charlamagne's there, you're here, I'm there.

00:19:09.000 There's one where you get up and you're mad that we don't believe you that you saw Bigfoot or something. 0.99

00:19:13.000 That kind of shit, the idea that when you think of infinity, we think about it as being really big. 0.99

00:19:21.000 It's impossible to put in your head that infinite, infinite universes, like the size of the universe, 14 billion light years apart, infinite numbers of those. 1.00

00:19:30.000 Not only that, they think that inside every galaxy is a supermassive black hole, and inside that black hole may be another universe, with hundreds of billions of galaxies, with hundreds of billions of black holes, inside each one of those hundreds of billions of galaxies, hundreds of billions of black holes,

00:19:47.000 that it's fractal, and that it's impossible for you to even conceive.

00:19:50.000 Yeah, I think it's very selfish.

00:19:51.000 So you're saying just based on the numbers, there has to be something else.

00:19:55.000 It has to be.

00:19:55.000 Now the question is, is there...

00:19:57.000 You gotta be to think that we're the only life in this fucking universe. 0.96

00:19:58.000 I don't think we're the only life in the universe. 0.99

00:20:00.000 I'm just saying like, hmm.

00:20:02.000 Whether or not it's reached us.

00:20:04.000 Well, yeah, I don't think it's reached us.

00:20:05.000 And if it has reached us, it's like they have to find a way to bend time.

00:20:08.000 Not really.

00:20:09.000 Because time is the biggest issue, right?

00:20:10.000 No.

00:20:10.000 I'm going to tell you what the problem is.

00:20:12.000 We're Earthlings, right?

00:20:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:20:13.000 And if you look at how diverse the Earth is, there's different species of shit in the woods, different species of shit in the water, different species of shit in the jungle, different species of shit in the sky. 1.00

00:20:21.000 Why wouldn't the Earth, I mean the universe, be just as diverse? 0.99

00:20:25.000 Sure it is.

00:20:25.000 And we're assuming we're the smartest life form in the universe.

00:20:30.000 No, no, no.

00:20:30.000 I'm not at all.

00:20:31.000 And sure it is.

00:20:32.000 All I'm saying is life has an end, right?

00:20:35.000 What is the oldest species on the earth right now? 0.89

00:20:38.000 Would have turtles lived like 200 or some shit like that? 0.99

00:20:41.000 Morgan Freeman is the oldest species on the goddamn earth. 0.99

00:20:45.000 So let's say it's 200, 300 years, right? 0.98

00:20:48.000 Let's say that's the max. 0.99

00:20:50.000 Now we have 300 years to travel millions of light years away to get to another galaxy, to see other planets, to see if they have some shit. 0.99

00:20:57.000 And they have the same for us. 0.96

00:20:58.000 So let's say there is another species that somehow found a way to take the consciousness that they have and put it in a robot that can then last for thousands of years.

00:21:10.000 Then they would have the opportunity to come here.

00:21:12.000 But we're limited by time.

00:21:14.000 Right? 0.72

00:21:15.000 You will die before you get somewhere.

00:21:17.000 Like, we can go to Mars, we can't come back. 0.53

00:21:19.000 Time.

00:21:19.000 I think we're basing that off our intelligence.

00:21:21.000 There might be a species in this universe that can fly to Earth the way we fly to L.A. But that's what I'm saying.

00:21:26.000 They would have to bend time.

00:21:27.000 Not necessarily.

00:21:28.000 What they could do is fold time.

00:21:30.000 Or fold it, whatever.

00:21:30.000 You know what I mean?

00:21:31.000 Create that wormhole effect where you're going, where instead of it's not linear, it's whatever.

00:21:36.000 It's in some movie.

00:21:37.000 It was in Event Horizon.

00:21:40.000 They talked about how they did that.

00:21:41.000 Remember that movie?

00:21:42.000 Yeah, and there was another one too with Mackie McConaughey.

00:21:46.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:21:47.000 Interstellar.

00:21:47.000 Interstellar, yeah.

00:21:48.000 Where they get into, like, space-time.

00:21:49.000 Space-time's really interesting, right?

00:21:50.000 It's like, the faster you go, the less you age.

00:21:54.000 Yeah.

00:21:54.000 Right?

00:21:54.000 Like, so if somebody's in a plane flying around...

00:21:56.000 In comparison to someone here.

00:21:57.000 ...on the Earth, right?

00:21:58.000 So if someone's flying around the Earth in a plane versus us sitting on Earth, they will age fractionally less, right?

00:22:03.000 So if you just increase their speed and decrease ours, or keep ours at the same, they will, let's say, not age at all compared to us aging, like, 30 years.

00:22:12.000 Even crazier.

00:22:13.000 Brian Cox...

00:22:14.000 I went to see his Cosmos exhibit.

00:22:17.000 Wait, that's the astronaut?

00:22:19.000 He's a physicist.

00:22:20.000 From CERN, from the Large Hadron Collider.

00:22:23.000 He has a bunch of different podcasts and shows.

00:22:26.000 He said that if you were born, and right next to you, like your mother and you, both put on a watch at the moment you were born, and then you checked that watch 30 years later, if you had a perfect watch, it was never out of time, your watch would have a different time than her watch,

00:22:41.000 because you have gone through time Differently than she has.

00:22:45.000 Fractionally.

00:22:47.000 I don't understand.

00:23:06.000 You're actually traveling at a faster rate, right?

00:23:09.000 Because it's no different than like, let's say there's a ball on a tether, right?

00:23:13.000 And you're just swinging it around in a circle, right?

00:23:16.000 The ball at the end is actually going faster than your hand in the middle swinging around.

00:23:20.000 Gotcha.

00:23:21.000 Right?

00:23:21.000 So since you're going faster, you're actually aging slower.

00:23:23.000 And we're talking about fractions of seconds.

00:23:25.000 Yeah.

00:23:26.000 But over the course of time, it proves that everyone experiences time at a slightly different rate.

00:23:31.000 Which proves Einstein's theory that if you do travel very fast in a spaceship and then come back, you would look at your brother who was your age and now he's 100 years old and you're only 30. So I think I figured it out, how we can time travel.

00:23:44.000 Or not time travel, but I think I figured it out.

00:23:46.000 So we're trying to create... 0.95

00:23:47.000 Okay, and again, I don't know shit, but this is just me pontificating. 1.00

00:23:50.000 Brilliant idiot logic. 1.00

00:23:51.000 This is brilliant idiot shit right here. 1.00

00:23:53.000 Okay, so what we have to do is go faster than the speed of light in order to time travel. 1.00

00:23:56.000 I don't know how to do that just yet.

00:23:57.000 But what I think we can do is we're trying to use rockets to propel us at a certain mile per hour to get close to the speed of light. 0.99

00:24:05.000 Fuck the rockets. 0.97

00:24:08.000 Why don't we use light as wind and create a sail that harnesses light? 1.00

00:24:13.000 And that sail will naturally take us the same speed or as close as we possibly could get to the speed of light.

00:24:20.000 They did that in a movie called Sunshine. 0.99

00:24:22.000 I'm a fucking genius. 1.00

00:24:23.000 You see this shit, bro? 1.00

00:24:24.000 I'm a fucking genius. 1.00

00:24:26.000 I saw Sunshine and didn't tell anybody. 1.00

00:24:28.000 Where the fuck is that? 0.99

00:24:30.000 Sunshine? 0.99

00:24:30.000 How could you see that movie? 0.99

00:24:32.000 I don't even know what an elk is.

00:24:33.000 Science fiction.

00:24:34.000 Come on! 0.61

00:24:37.000 A science fiction movie.

00:24:38.000 I'm talking to Bob Lazar tonight.

00:24:40.000 That was the guy I was telling you I wanted to bring you to dinner.

00:24:42.000 I'm going.

00:24:42.000 You too, as well, if you want to go.

00:24:43.000 He's the guy who worked at Area 51. I didn't even know if we could talk about this today.

00:24:48.000 He's doing the podcast tomorrow.

00:24:49.000 I believe in Area 51. I wasn't going to bring it up.

00:24:51.000 Oh, Area 51's real, but this guy literally worked on what he says are alien spacecrafts.

00:24:56.000 Spacecraft that sail on sunshine could be the next big thing. 0.84

00:24:59.000 Jamie!

00:25:00.000 Bro, you should work for NASA. Jamie!

00:25:02.000 This is public school education.

00:25:03.000 He can get you a job at Trump's Space Force.

00:25:05.000 That's it.

00:25:05.000 And I don't want to do any of the math.

00:25:07.000 I just want to throw the ideas out there and I think I got it.

00:25:09.000 10 mil?

00:25:10.000 This is a legit Space Force shirt from Trump Tower.

00:25:14.000 Tim Dillon bought me this.

00:25:16.000 Yo, shouts to Tim.

00:25:17.000 I love Tim.

00:25:18.000 This is real. 0.99

00:25:19.000 This is with the real fucking Space Force. 0.99

00:25:21.000 This is the logo. 0.99

00:25:21.000 That's hot. 0.99

00:25:23.000 I thought you got that from Target or something.

00:25:25.000 I did.

00:25:26.000 I missed that cartoon in that old movie. 0.99

00:25:29.000 I went to fucking Space Force. 1.00

00:25:30.000 This is the real Space Force, this fucking goofy shit. 1.00

00:25:33.000 You said you had a friend who works on alien spacecraft? 1.00

00:25:36.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:25:36.000 That's what I told you tonight.

00:25:38.000 He's on the podcast tomorrow.

00:25:39.000 But he worked at Area 51. Is he allowed to talk about that shit without getting killed? 1.00

00:25:43.000 He is, because he's been talking about it for decades. 1.00

00:25:45.000 Really?

00:25:45.000 Yeah, and they've tried to discredit him.

00:25:48.000 He's very controversial. 1.00

00:25:49.000 A lot of people think he's full of shit. 1.00

00:25:52.000 There's a recent documentary by Jeremy Corbell, and the more you look at the documentary, he knows too many things. 1.00

00:25:57.000 He knows too many things that prove that he absolutely worked at Area 51. He got arrested for bringing people to a lookout peak to look over where the area where they would launch these spaceships.

00:26:08.000 And he's got video of these things flying through the air doing all these maneuvers that no conventional spacecraft could do in 1980, whatever the fuck it was, where he got arrested. 0.52

00:26:16.000 They must have some type of... 0.79

00:26:19.000 NDA with extraterrestrials.

00:26:21.000 Where they don't talk about it?

00:26:22.000 Yeah, I feel like the U.S. government or just governments in general throughout the world have some type of NDA with extraterrestrials. 0.99

00:26:27.000 The NDA is we'll kill you. 0.96

00:26:28.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:26:29.000 That's how it works.

00:26:29.000 They probably use the same one Leonardo DiCaprio uses on his girlfriends.

00:26:32.000 Dude, he's got the greatest NDA in the history of the game.

00:26:35.000 For now. 1.00

00:26:36.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:26:37.000 NDAs mean shit. 1.00

00:26:38.000 Nobody gives a fuck about NDAs, bro. 1.00

00:26:41.000 You can pay people and they don't care. 0.98

00:26:42.000 They'll come out and talk about it later.

00:26:44.000 We had Lisa Ann on a podcast, right? 0.97

00:26:47.000 The porn star? 0.96

00:26:48.000 Yeah, called Flagrant 2, right? 1.00

00:26:50.000 And Lisa Ann came on and she was talking about NDAs and how stupid women are for obeying them. 1.00

00:26:56.000 And I was like, what are you talking about? 1.00

00:26:57.000 And she's like, what do they have to lose?

00:26:59.000 They don't have any money. 1.00

00:27:01.000 So she's like, you have a bunch of fucking heels in your apartment. 1.00

00:27:04.000 You think that Leonardo DiCaprio is going to take your heels? 0.99

00:27:06.000 You could break any fucking NDA, but for whatever reason, they get scared. 0.99

00:27:10.000 You pay a woman a half a million dollars, tell her to keep her mouth closed. 1.00

00:27:12.000 She breaks the NDA. In the NDA, it says she has to pay you back.

00:27:16.000 What do you want money?

00:27:16.000 Exactly.

00:27:17.000 You're going to be waiting on that money forever.

00:27:18.000 My favorite one is Bill O'Reilly.

00:27:20.000 He had to pay a lady $32 million. 1.00

00:27:23.000 There's no pussy worth that. 1.00

00:27:24.000 I need to see what she looks like. 1.00

00:27:25.000 Can we look at this woman? 1.00

00:27:27.000 I need to see that. 1.00

00:27:28.000 Bill is into some wild shit. 1.00

00:27:32.000 There's no picture of this woman? 1.00

00:27:34.000 I need to see $32 million pussy. 1.00

00:27:37.000 I would love to. 1.00

00:27:38.000 I would love to see what she looks like.

00:27:41.000 $32 million?

00:27:42.000 He agreed to it.

00:27:43.000 He agreed to it. 1.00

00:27:44.000 He looked into some wild shit, bro. 0.99

00:27:46.000 He must have did something he didn't want nobody to even remotely hear about. 1.00

00:27:49.000 Oh, Bill's getting pegged.

00:27:50.000 Bill's getting pegged.

00:27:51.000 100% getting...

00:27:52.000 It's not even about what actually happened.

00:27:55.000 It's about what the person said they did to you that can ruin your reputation.

00:27:58.000 She's got pics.

00:27:59.000 Especially in 2019. She's got pics.

00:28:01.000 She's got pics.

00:28:01.000 She's got videos.

00:28:02.000 Something's going in Bill's ass guaranteed. 1.00

00:28:05.000 DNA. She's got his shit under her thumbnail. 1.00

00:28:07.000 I guarantee. 1.00

00:28:08.000 And then a guy like Bill has to keep a certain standard about himself.

00:28:13.000 You have to look at him a certain way in order to listen to what he's saying.

00:28:17.000 In order to take his information correctly, I guess.

00:28:21.000 Seriously. 0.99

00:28:24.000 So he could lose all that equity in his audience if he's out there doing wild shit. 1.00

00:28:27.000 He did. 0.99

00:28:28.000 He didn't help him.

00:28:29.000 He's gone anyway.

00:28:30.000 Is it over for Bill?

00:28:31.000 Well, he's not on Fox News anymore.

00:28:33.000 He's podcasting now.

00:28:34.000 He was the number one guy.

00:28:35.000 And they were like, not worth it.

00:28:37.000 Yeah, man. 0.82

00:28:42.000 They got Bill the fuck out of here. 0.93

00:28:44.000 Y'all be talking about cancel culture. 0.98

00:28:46.000 Bill really got canceled.

00:28:47.000 For real.

00:28:48.000 Game over.

00:28:49.000 In a big way.

00:28:50.000 And I think he does do some type of broadcasting now, but nobody cares.

00:28:54.000 Well, he let out a book, and the book was number one New York Times bestseller.

00:28:58.000 After Fox?

00:28:59.000 Yeah, he does these history books.

00:29:00.000 Yes.

00:29:01.000 I don't even think he writes them.

00:29:03.000 I think he just puts his name on it.

00:29:04.000 I wonder about a guy like Bill though.

00:29:06.000 Because think about it.

00:29:07.000 You started your own platform.

00:29:09.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:29:10.000 And people really care about your voice.

00:29:11.000 Do people ever really care about Bill's voice?

00:29:13.000 That's the thing, right?

00:29:14.000 Old white people did. 0.97

00:29:15.000 Nah, but check it, right?

00:29:16.000 So it's like sometimes you become a mouthpiece for a network or for an ideology they believe in.

00:29:21.000 And this is the difference. 0.99

00:29:22.000 This is how you find out if people really fuck with you. 0.99

00:29:24.000 The second you leave that network. 0.99

00:29:26.000 It's like when people leave ESPN and you never hear about them again.

00:29:28.000 It's like, oh, you thought you were bigger than ESPN? Right.

00:29:30.000 You thought you were bigger than the sports?

00:29:32.000 Right. 1.00

00:29:33.000 Fuck out of here. 1.00

00:29:34.000 They just want you to say strike. 1.00

00:29:35.000 Ball.

00:29:36.000 That's it.

00:29:36.000 So I think we learned that Bill really didn't have all that cachet that we thought we had.

00:29:44.000 ESPN is a good analogy.

00:29:45.000 That's why you got to give people like Skip Bayless props.

00:29:47.000 You got to give Janelle Hill props. 1.00

00:29:48.000 They can go other places and people still care about what they have to say.

00:29:52.000 Even if it's just in tweets.

00:29:54.000 I don't even know what Bill O'Reilly's Twitter handle is.

00:29:56.000 I imagine something like Bill O'Reilly.

00:29:58.000 I'm sure it is, but you don't ever see him, he's never known for like, oh, Bill O'Reilly said this on social media.

00:30:03.000 When's the last time you heard Bill O'Reilly say something?

00:30:05.000 He might not even be on.

00:30:06.000 They made some news.

00:30:07.000 Yeah, he might not even be on.

00:30:09.000 It's tough, bro.

00:30:09.000 Yeah, he's podcasting from his apartment or something like that.

00:30:12.000 Dude, there's no background, nothing.

00:30:14.000 Really?

00:30:15.000 Yeah, it's bad.

00:30:16.000 He's not even wearing suits.

00:30:17.000 He's got like a NASA rugby shirt.

00:30:20.000 Dude, it's Bill O'Rogan, bro.

00:30:24.000 Bro, we gotta look him up. 0.99

00:30:27.000 We gotta see the girl he fucked and him and see how they're living right now. 1.00

00:30:29.000 I think guys like that, they say, we'll just lay low for a couple years and then someone will scoop you up again. 0.99

00:30:34.000 But there's only one Fox.

00:30:35.000 And when Fox lets you go, if you're one of those guys, those neocon guys, you don't really have any place else to go. 0.99

00:30:41.000 Damn. 0.99

00:30:42.000 And he's too old to really understand the landscape of how to navigate this new internet space. 0.99

00:30:47.000 Because you've got plenty of conservative voices who don't have those big platforms.

00:30:51.000 The Candace Owens, Tommy Lawrence.

00:30:53.000 Ben Shapiro's not on TV. Look at him.

00:30:56.000 Wow, no makeup.

00:30:57.000 Look at the undershirt.

00:30:59.000 He's wearing a nurse's outfit underneath that button down.

00:31:02.000 He's got no pants on for sure.

00:31:02.000 He guaranteed.

00:31:03.000 Yeah, that's dad O'Reilly.

00:31:05.000 Yo, I think that is a Space Force shirt for real under the button down.

00:31:08.000 That really is!

00:31:09.000 Look at him!

00:31:09.000 Dude!

00:31:10.000 What size is that button-up shirt?

00:31:12.000 Did that chick take his wardrobe? 1.00

00:31:14.000 He's got a fat gut now. 0.98

00:31:16.000 He's been drinking.

00:31:16.000 No, this is not good.

00:31:17.000 No Spin News.

00:31:19.000 Watch the full No Spin News.

00:31:22.000 BillOReilly.com.

00:31:24.000 No, we need to get some new shirts, bro.

00:31:25.000 They got 581,000 views on whatever video that is.

00:31:28.000 What is this on Twitter?

00:31:29.000 There are no charges.

00:31:31.000 You are presumed innocent in this country.

00:31:34.000 This is not what the left wants.

00:31:36.000 What is this about?

00:31:37.000 What is he ranting about?

00:31:38.000 April 19th, but maybe we tripping.

00:31:39.000 The Mueller report.

00:31:40.000 Scroll down.

00:31:41.000 How many people are watching that?

00:31:43.000 How many people have him on Twitter?

00:31:45.000 How many followers do you have?

00:31:46.000 Three million followers he has.

00:31:47.000 And that video had 581,000 views.

00:31:49.000 Can you look at him right there in that video, right?

00:31:51.000 Now go down.

00:31:52.000 Now scroll down.

00:31:53.000 Do you think he's doing the orange thing to reflect Trump?

00:31:55.000 Oh, 100%.

00:31:56.000 He's bringing him in.

00:31:57.000 What?

00:31:57.000 Look at that.

00:31:58.000 That's 100% the orange thing.

00:31:59.000 He looks like turmeric.

00:32:00.000 Yeah, but he don't look anything like he looks in real life.

00:32:02.000 That's like an Instagram hoe. 1.00

00:32:04.000 One of those weird filters.

00:32:06.000 Like, look at him there.

00:32:07.000 Look at him there.

00:32:08.000 That's fashion overbuilt.

00:32:09.000 Look at him there.

00:32:10.000 Look at him there.

00:32:10.000 Come on, bro.

00:32:11.000 If you met him in a restaurant, you'd be like, wait a minute.

00:32:14.000 You gotta update your picture, son.

00:32:16.000 That's probably why you had to pay that woman $32 million. 1.00

00:32:19.000 She's fucking disappointed. 0.99

00:32:20.000 Yo, go down. 1.00

00:32:21.000 It keeps getting more orange.

00:32:22.000 Go down.

00:32:23.000 Bro, that's hilarious.

00:32:24.000 Yo, maybe we tripping.

00:32:25.000 Maybe people are watching Bill O'Reilly.

00:32:26.000 They're definitely watching it.

00:32:27.000 He's got 500,000 views.

00:32:29.000 Yeah.

00:32:29.000 They're definitely watching it.

00:32:30.000 But now he's in the vacuum. 1.00

00:32:31.000 But it's those crazy old white people that live in Kansas. 1.00

00:32:34.000 Yeah, but they don't have Twitter. 1.00

00:32:35.000 Hey, man, a win is a win.

00:32:37.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:32:37.000 If you got 580,000 people that can watch when you put up a video and you can still get paid for it, I'm cool with that.

00:32:43.000 That's true.

00:32:43.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:32:44.000 I think we put too much emphasis on, like, whatever main scream.

00:32:48.000 There's no such thing as main scream, because there's not just one scream anymore.

00:32:51.000 Right.

00:32:51.000 Now it's over.

00:32:52.000 That's why, and shouts at Brendan Shaw, that's why we wanted you guys to connect.

00:32:57.000 Because I feel like you guys represent...

00:33:01.000 I think you are both the most influential people in media.

00:33:05.000 Don't put that kind of pressure on me.

00:33:07.000 Put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby.

00:33:08.000 I think it's important!

00:33:10.000 I think it's important!

00:33:12.000 No, because I think you guys represent, and I think the illusion was, before I went on here for the first time, the illusion was that these things operated in separate spheres.

00:33:21.000 That there were these different vacuums, like the Charlemagne world, and then the Rogan world.

00:33:25.000 And then I went on, and I found all these people that knew me from our podcast, That also listen to yours, right? 0.67

00:33:31.000 So it turned out in that moment, I was like, oh shit, it's not as fractured as people think. 0.98

00:33:36.000 Nah. 0.99

00:33:36.000 Everybody's aware. 0.99

00:33:38.000 Yeah, people have always been hitting me for years.

00:33:39.000 Like, yo, you got to go on Joe Rogan, you got to go on Joe Rogan, you got to go on Joe Rogan.

00:33:42.000 So it's clearly that the worlds collide.

00:33:45.000 It's all interconnected.

00:33:47.000 Especially this internet wave that we're on right now.

00:33:50.000 The internet wave, people are craving this type of information.

00:33:52.000 They're craving the type of interviews you guys are doing and talking to the people you guys are talking to, right?

00:33:57.000 And, I don't know, for me this is really cool just to see this.

00:33:59.000 People like the fact that everybody could do everybody's show.

00:34:02.000 It's not like Jimmy Kimmel never does like the Seth Meyers show.

00:34:06.000 Thank God.

00:34:07.000 But you know what I mean?

00:34:08.000 It's like everything is not, that world is very disconnected.

00:34:12.000 Whereas this world, the internet world is like, like for the comics and podcasts, there's no competition.

00:34:17.000 Everybody helps everybody.

00:34:18.000 Everybody supports everybody.

00:34:19.000 No, you help everybody.

00:34:21.000 I mean, that's one thing I've always noticed about your platform. 0.99

00:34:23.000 Like, you've always bought on up-and-coming comedians who just needed that extra push for people to know who the fuck they are. 0.99

00:34:31.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.98

00:34:31.000 That's important. 0.98

00:34:32.000 I saw you had Miss Pat on yesterday.

00:34:34.000 I love her.

00:34:34.000 Shout out to Miss Pat.

00:34:35.000 How could you not love Miss Pat?

00:34:36.000 Shout out to Miss Pat, bro. 1.00

00:34:38.000 Genuinely funny.

00:34:39.000 Miss Pat is a force of nature.

00:34:40.000 And her story is insane.

00:34:43.000 Like, you can only take a story that sad and that tragic and turn it into a sitcom. 0.99

00:34:47.000 She was talking yesterday about her ex-husband who shot her in the titty, shot her in the head, shot her in the titty, shot her in the back of the head, shot her in the titty, got her pregnant, was fucking her when she was 12, got her pregnant when she was 14, with two kids by the time she was 16. She had an abortion when she was 16 with his third kid. 0.99

00:35:05.000 She called him up to try to get him to apologize to her.

00:35:09.000 He wouldn't apologize to her, so she forgave him, and she said it released this huge weight off of her shoulder.

00:35:14.000 She was talking about it.

00:35:15.000 Like, you can't believe her story. 1.00

00:35:16.000 I'm not with that shit either. 1.00

00:35:17.000 She's laughing about... 1.00

00:35:19.000 Of course not.

00:35:19.000 Yeah, that whole forgiveness thing.

00:35:21.000 We talk about that all the time.

00:35:22.000 I'm not with that whole, like, I forgive you and it makes me feel better. 0.99

00:35:26.000 I'm fine not fucking with you. 1.00

00:35:29.000 I'm fine saying fuck this guy. 1.00

00:35:31.000 Fuck this person. 1.00

00:35:32.000 I don't care. 1.00

00:35:33.000 I don't have to forgive you.

00:35:34.000 I saw the Emanuel movie just came out.

00:35:38.000 The shooting that happened in Charlton, South Carolina.

00:35:40.000 And all of the family members forgave Dylann Roof.

00:35:43.000 And I'm like... 1.00

00:35:44.000 There's one dude in there that's like, fuck him, he killed my mama. 1.00

00:35:48.000 I'm not forgiving him. 1.00

00:35:49.000 I'm like, yes!

00:35:50.000 That's a perfectly fine emotion.

00:35:52.000 You go talk to your therapist about it. 1.00

00:35:54.000 You allow yourself to feel like, yes, fuck him. 1.00

00:35:57.000 Why do we feel like we gotta forgive and the weight comes off our shoulders? 1.00

00:36:01.000 I think for her, it was like she was carrying it around her whole life.

00:36:05.000 You know, I think for her it just helped her. 1.00

00:36:06.000 And she knew he was a piece of shit. 1.00

00:36:08.000 When she was talking to him, she said to him, like, you were fucking me when I was 12 years old. 1.00

00:36:11.000 And he literally said this to her, your mind, your body wasn't 12. That's what he said to her. 0.99

00:36:17.000 And she was just like... 0.60

00:36:18.000 So she decided after that, like, I'm not going to invest my energy in this.

00:36:22.000 I'm going to...

00:36:23.000 Let it go.

00:36:24.000 Let it go. 1.00

00:36:24.000 So she just doesn't fuck with him, doesn't talk with him, but she doesn't carry around the hate that was poisoning her. 1.00

00:36:31.000 Yeah, I get it, and I understand the power of forgiveness. 0.99

00:36:33.000 There's a reason why it exists, right?

00:36:34.000 There's a reason why it's still here for thousands of years, this idea of, hey, let's forgive so that we can feel better.

00:36:42.000 I think usually things get weeded out if they don't work.

00:36:45.000 Well, it's hard to forgive someone who doesn't feel bad about what they did. 0.99

00:36:48.000 It's one thing if you're like, man, I fucked up. 0.97

00:36:50.000 I'm sorry. 0.62

00:36:50.000 Please forgive me. 0.62

00:36:51.000 You're like, I get it.

00:36:52.000 You're a person.

00:36:53.000 Human beings make mistakes.

00:36:54.000 I forgive you. 0.98

00:36:55.000 But if someone is like, you weren't 12 with your mind and your body, and he's talking about fucking you when you were 12 years old. 0.96

00:37:03.000 Like, I have an 11-year-old daughter. 1.00

00:37:04.000 The idea of a grown man fucking her. 1.00

00:37:06.000 No, we've got to go bow hunting. 1.00

00:37:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:37:08.000 Yeah, you're not going to forgive him.

00:37:09.000 No. 1.00

00:37:10.000 You might fuck him up, and then after you fuck him up, you'd be like, you know what? 1.00

00:37:13.000 It's all good. 1.00

00:37:14.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:37:15.000 You put a fucking arrow in his fucking gut. 1.00

00:37:17.000 In his head, that's it. 1.00

00:37:18.000 Oh, yeah, it's all good.

00:37:19.000 So maybe forgiveness is misconstrued.

00:37:21.000 Maybe you're not actually forgiving the person and letting them offer what they did, but maybe you're just removing them from your consciousness. 0.95

00:37:27.000 People forgive when they're not going to do shit. 0.98

00:37:29.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:37:29.000 People forgive when they have realized I'm not going to slap this shit out there. 1.00

00:37:33.000 It's like when someone huge punches you in the face, you're like, I forgive you, bro. 0.99

00:37:37.000 You know what?

00:37:38.000 I'm attaching myself to Jesus because I can't carry this no more. 0.94

00:37:43.000 Mike says and spits in your face. 0.98

00:37:44.000 I forgive you, Mike.

00:37:45.000 We don't know what we do.

00:37:47.000 We don't know what we do sometimes.

00:37:48.000 We make mistakes.

00:37:49.000 We all make mistakes out here.

00:37:52.000 In the street when somebody gets punched in the face and be like, yo, alright, you got it.

00:37:55.000 That's forgiveness.

00:37:57.000 I'm a Christian.

00:37:59.000 I'm not going to be out here fighting you, Mike.

00:38:01.000 You're not going to attach me to the worst parts of my nature.

00:38:04.000 By the way, that's probably when I would get to that point of forgiveness.

00:38:06.000 When you want to do something to somebody so bad, but when you get the opportunity, you don't.

00:38:11.000 And you realize it's not that important to you.

00:38:13.000 Then, at that moment, I might be like, you know what?

00:38:15.000 God bless you, man.

00:38:16.000 Yes.

00:38:16.000 I wish him the best.

00:38:17.000 That's real. 0.95

00:38:17.000 When you guys have surpassed people in your career that were pieces of shit to you as you were coming up, did the anger that you had towards them totally leave your body? 0.95

00:38:27.000 No. 0.98

00:38:27.000 Absolutely not. 0.98

00:38:28.000 You hold on to that shit. 1.00

00:38:29.000 I write books about it. 1.00

00:38:30.000 Do you?

00:38:31.000 I'm mortalized forever.

00:38:31.000 You like Jordan at the press conference?

00:38:33.000 I'm mortalized forever.

00:38:34.000 I need you.

00:38:34.000 And by the way, God bless you, but the facts are the facts.

00:38:38.000 You did fire me.

00:38:39.000 Right.

00:38:40.000 You know, Boogie D from Philly.

00:38:43.000 This guy is wild.

00:38:44.000 This guy is dead. 1.00

00:38:46.000 You did fire me for no fucking reason. 1.00

00:38:48.000 You did. 0.99

00:38:49.000 It happened.

00:38:50.000 I know you're listening.

00:38:52.000 Hey, Boogie, what you doing right now?

00:38:54.000 Boogie, how you feeling?

00:38:56.000 He does radio in St. Louis.

00:38:57.000 He does?

00:38:58.000 Yeah, yeah, because they told him that if he fired me and whatever he bought in didn't work, they was going to send him back to St. Louis because he had moved from St. Louis to be the PD in Philly.

00:39:08.000 And so he fired me.

00:39:09.000 What he bought in didn't work.

00:39:10.000 Right.

00:39:11.000 And they kept their word.

00:39:12.000 And they sent him back.

00:39:13.000 Back in St. Louis.

00:39:14.000 It's probably the best thing for him, though.

00:39:16.000 Yeah.

00:39:16.000 But everything worked out for everybody.

00:39:18.000 He's living a great life in St. Louis.

00:39:20.000 I'm living a great life...

00:39:21.000 Life.

00:39:23.000 Have you seen that Jordan...

00:39:25.000 What is it?

00:39:26.000 Yes.

00:39:26.000 What did he get into?

00:39:27.000 Yes.

00:39:27.000 Not the ultimate.

00:39:27.000 What was it?

00:39:28.000 It was...

00:39:29.000 Hall of Fame.

00:39:29.000 Oh, yeah.

00:39:30.000 The Hall of Fame speech.

00:39:31.000 He wouldn't stop talking about journalists.

00:39:32.000 Bro.

00:39:33.000 He remembered every single thing.

00:39:35.000 And that was his...

00:39:36.000 He's Bernard Hopkins.

00:39:37.000 Remember?

00:39:37.000 Remember Bernard Hopkins is a fighter?

00:39:39.000 He needed to be the villain.

00:39:40.000 He needed to be the heel for the motivation. 0.79

00:39:42.000 Y'all don't use that? 0.99

00:39:42.000 Y'all don't have people that's shitting on y'all and like... 0.99

00:39:45.000 When I surpass them, it goes away. 0.99

00:39:47.000 When I surpass them, it goes away.

00:39:49.000 It's weird.

00:39:50.000 It's like bullying.

00:39:50.000 I'm not saying it goes away, but I have to remind you.

00:39:54.000 I have to remind you that you told me I wasn't going to make it.

00:39:57.000 I have to tell you this. 1.00

00:39:58.000 When I was starting out as a comic, and it was rough in New York, and motherfuckers were just dickheads to you, I used to carry a list of people who were pieces of shit in my wallet. 1.00

00:40:09.000 Of all the people, I was going to say, fuck you two when I passed them. 1.00

00:40:12.000 And as I would start to pass them, I felt zero anger. 1.00

00:40:17.000 I almost started to feel bad. 0.99

00:40:19.000 I was like, oh shit, you're still in the same place. 1.00

00:40:21.000 That's why you were a dick to me, because I was all you had to be a dick to. 1.00

00:40:24.000 Well, that's the type of person that is a dick to someone who's coming up. 1.00

00:40:28.000 The person who's like, it's famine mentality. 0.98

00:40:30.000 You think there's not enough.

00:40:32.000 So you try to keep people away.

00:40:33.000 Get away, get away. 1.00

00:40:34.000 Whereas the people that don't have famine mentality are like, come on, Come on, let's do it.

00:40:38.000 Plenty for everybody.

00:40:40.000 Plenty for everybody.

00:40:40.000 I don't have anger.

00:40:42.000 I've been fired four times from radio, you know what I'm saying? 0.99

00:40:44.000 So I'm not angry at the people that fired me, but the people who told me things like, there was a guy named DJ Kaz in Charlton, South Carolina who told me, my first time I got fired, he told me I would never work in radio again because I was an asshole. 0.83

00:40:55.000 And then Boogie D told me, this is why you'll never make it in radio.

00:40:59.000 So those two individuals just need to be reminded.

00:41:03.000 So...

00:41:05.000 I think people need to know that they made those calls.

00:41:08.000 Wouldn't you like to know the person that cut Michael Jordan from the basketball team in high school?

00:41:13.000 Yes.

00:41:13.000 Wouldn't you like to know the person that didn't hire Oprah as a newscaster back in there?

00:41:17.000 Wouldn't you like to know these people?

00:41:18.000 I just want to know these people.

00:41:20.000 And by the way, I've had other executives in radio, you know, like, salute to my guy Doc Winters.

00:41:25.000 Doc Winters told me that one person in particular he would never hire.

00:41:29.000 Because they fired me and couldn't give him a reason why.

00:41:33.000 When he asked him why, he was like, I just didn't like what he was doing.

00:41:36.000 So he was like, I never hired that person.

00:41:38.000 So... 0.99

00:41:39.000 That's why certain people need to be told and reminded about the dumbass decisions they made. 1.00

00:41:45.000 Oh, dude, like a psychopath. 1.00

00:41:46.000 You hold some strong grudges. 1.00

00:41:46.000 Like a psychopath. 1.00

00:41:47.000 That's great. 1.00

00:41:48.000 But you know the difference is also that you get hired for these jobs and you can get fired by these assholes. 1.00

00:41:54.000 Yes. 0.99

00:41:54.000 And there's always that weird power play between producers and executives. 0.99

00:41:57.000 It happens with television shows and networks and it happens with radio.

00:42:01.000 It's a power play.

00:42:02.000 Yeah.

00:42:02.000 The thing about comedy is you just work at a different club.

00:42:07.000 There's a little weird struggle between you and the other comedians, but there's no real struggle between you and the club owners.

00:42:12.000 You go in there, you sell out, you kill, and you're friendly to everybody. 1.00

00:42:15.000 They don't give a fuck. 1.00

00:42:16.000 They're like, thank you, here's your money. 1.00

00:42:18.000 Bro, they do not fucking care, and it doesn't matter how much of a diva you are. 0.99

00:42:22.000 Everybody knows this story in comedy. 0.99

00:42:24.000 Eddie Griffin, you know Eddie Griffin's a writer?

00:42:26.000 Eddie Griffin is the best writer in comedy.

00:42:27.000 I didn't know he has a writer.

00:42:28.000 When did he get a writer?

00:42:29.000 Oh, he's had it forever.

00:42:30.000 Oh, I didn't know he had a writer.

00:42:31.000 No, a writer mean like the thing that- Oh, a writer.

00:42:33.000 Oh, a writer. 0.98

00:42:34.000 You're talking about me pronouncing shit wrong. 0.99

00:42:36.000 I thought you were talking about his fucking ghost writer. 0.99

00:42:39.000 I was like, Eddie got a ghost writer? 1.00

00:42:41.000 Eddie writes his shit. 1.00

00:42:42.000 Eddie can go, man. 1.00

00:42:43.000 Eddie's great. 0.98

00:42:45.000 But apparently his writer, which means the shit that's in the green room, and he needs a brand new pair of Air Force Ones for every show. 0.99

00:42:53.000 A lot of people do that. 0.99

00:42:54.000 What?

00:42:55.000 Yeah.

00:42:56.000 A lot of people have sneaker riders.

00:42:58.000 Wait a minute. 0.99

00:42:59.000 I'm fucking up. 0.98

00:43:00.000 Because I haven't asked for anything but water. 0.98

00:43:02.000 You would think sneakers are the most important thing in stand-up, right? 0.99

00:43:04.000 You need a comfortable fucking shoe, right? 0.99

00:43:06.000 When you're on that stage. 1.00

00:43:08.000 Hold on.

00:43:08.000 There are more than just Eddie has...

00:43:10.000 Yeah.

00:43:10.000 Some guys have it where they want a fresh pair, size 11s, whatever they wear, right there.

00:43:15.000 So they get to the...

00:43:17.000 They number one to wear them at all until right when they get on stage.

00:43:20.000 That's it.

00:43:21.000 Yeah.

00:43:21.000 What's in your rider?

00:43:22.000 I have like Jack Daniels, wine, meat, water.

00:43:29.000 Simple.

00:43:29.000 Sugar-free Red Bull.

00:43:30.000 What kind of meat?

00:43:30.000 You're not specific with the meat?

00:43:32.000 No, like meat plates, like roast beef and shit like that. 0.98

00:43:35.000 Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. 0.99

00:43:35.000 So I don't eat garbage. 0.99

00:43:37.000 Right.

00:43:38.000 Stuff like that.

00:43:39.000 Nothing.

00:43:39.000 Nuts.

00:43:40.000 Macadamia nuts and pistachios. 1.00

00:43:42.000 Normal shit. 1.00

00:43:43.000 Red M&M's. 1.00

00:43:44.000 Yeah, only green ones.

00:43:47.000 Pick out the green ones.

00:43:48.000 I mean, what you're saying about stand-up is the beauty of independence, though, right?

00:43:52.000 Yeah.

00:43:52.000 That's why everybody who gets Me Too'd runs to the stand-up stage afterwards, because the comedy club still accepts it.

00:43:58.000 Sean, they were saying, did you see that tweet?

00:44:00.000 I thought maybe it was Roy Wood or something like that.

00:44:03.000 He was like, O.J. will be doing stand-up in three months.

00:44:06.000 Dude, do you watch those videos?

00:44:07.000 No, and why do you? 1.00

00:44:09.000 Why do we even attain that shit? 1.00

00:44:10.000 You love it. 1.00

00:44:11.000 Fascinating.

00:44:12.000 Fascinating.

00:44:13.000 Hello, Twitter world.

00:44:16.000 There's a lot of BS out there.

00:44:18.000 First of all, it pisses me off that he does videos on Twitter. 1.00

00:44:22.000 Take that shit to Instagram. 1.00

00:44:24.000 He doesn't know. 1.00

00:44:24.000 He thinks Twitter is that. 1.00

00:44:26.000 That's what he thinks.

00:44:27.000 He's holding his reading glasses in his hand.

00:44:29.000 I mean, he's going blind.

00:44:30.000 He's 71 years old.

00:44:32.000 Did you see the DM he sent that dude?

00:44:34.000 Amazing.

00:44:35.000 With all the knives.

00:44:35.000 All the knife emojis.

00:44:36.000 But yo, you understand that was strategic, right?

00:44:38.000 He sent that on Monday. 0.99

00:44:39.000 Monday was the 25th anniversary of the fucking Bronco chase. 0.97

00:44:43.000 So you think that he didn't just want to be in the news? 0.98

00:44:46.000 That was a strategic move.

00:44:48.000 I don't think he's that smart. 1.00

00:44:49.000 I think what's going on is he's reacting to someone fucking with him, and he doesn't know how to just let shit slide. 0.99

00:44:56.000 So somebody makes a parody video where he's doing his Twitter. 0.99

00:44:59.000 He goes, hello, Twitter world.

00:45:01.000 And then someone's got, help, police, in the background.

00:45:03.000 That's what they did.

00:45:04.000 So he gets mad, and he DMs that person who made that video.

00:45:08.000 I'm going to cut you.

00:45:10.000 He said, I'm going to cut you.

00:45:12.000 I think that was strategic, man.

00:45:13.000 I think he knew it was the 25th anniversary of the Bronco Chase.

00:45:16.000 And OJ's only relevance is the fact that he got away with murder. 0.99

00:45:20.000 So he has to remind us of that fact all the time in order for us to give a fuck. 0.98

00:45:25.000 Did you ever see the videos he did when he was doing rap? 0.99

00:45:27.000 When he was dressing up like a king?

00:45:28.000 In Miami?

00:45:29.000 Yeah.

00:45:30.000 He dressed up like a rapper?

00:45:32.000 He was doing rap.

00:45:33.000 He had music.

00:45:34.000 No.

00:45:35.000 Jamie?

00:45:36.000 Yeah, alright.

00:45:36.000 We can't play it, right?

00:45:37.000 We get pulled off of YouTube.

00:45:38.000 Real quick, that stuff was fake.

00:45:40.000 That DM stuff.

00:45:41.000 Oh, it was fake?

00:45:42.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:42.000 Oh, the guy lied?

00:45:43.000 Yeah, so I listened to Jim and Sam yesterday.

00:45:46.000 They actually broke it down instantly.

00:45:47.000 He made it in a fake account with the real OJ. He just made the L, a capital I. Oh!

00:45:56.000 I gave him Donkey of the Day for no fucking reason. 1.00

00:45:58.000 God damn... 1.00

00:46:00.000 Lookie, you're mad! 1.00

00:46:01.000 I'm glad, though. 1.00

00:46:03.000 I'm glad he's not that stupid. 1.00

00:46:04.000 Donkey of the Day is a segment I do in a breakfast club where I give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid. 1.00

00:46:08.000 I'm like, yo, you can't be that stupid and that thirsty for attention, OJ. So it's kind of a relief that he's not that thirsty. 1.00

00:46:15.000 This is OJ when he was doing rap music.

00:46:17.000 All right, well, now he is thirsty.

00:46:19.000 We can't play the music, but he had girls out there dancing around their underwear, and OJ was rapping. 0.72

00:46:24.000 Didn't he have a crown on or something?

00:46:26.000 There he is.

00:46:26.000 He was dressed up in white face and all sorts of things.

00:46:29.000 There's naked girls in it. 1.00

00:46:30.000 Oh, God. 0.98

00:46:30.000 You don't think OJ been riding the wave of killing these two people for too long, bro? 0.98

00:46:33.000 Well, crazy bitches will still fuck him. 1.00

00:46:36.000 I guarantee you. 1.00

00:46:36.000 Bro, it is insane. 1.00

00:46:37.000 I don't understand this part of women at all. 1.00

00:46:40.000 Like, the women that, like, meet people in jail, and then they'll, like, get married to them in jail.

00:46:44.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:45.000 Like, what is this about? 0.99

00:46:46.000 I'm thinking about that jail dick when they come home. 1.00

00:46:49.000 Some of those guys never get to give them that jail dick. 1.00

00:46:51.000 They're in jail forever, and they get no conjugal visits, and they still want to marry them. 0.99

00:46:55.000 But why?

00:46:55.000 Women are attracted to killers.

00:46:57.000 So they want killers? 1.00

00:46:58.000 They want killers, and specifically they want killers that kill women. 1.00

00:47:02.000 What? 1.00

00:47:03.000 Yeah, that's a thing with some women, with really fucked up women. 1.00

00:47:07.000 They are attracted to men who kill women. 1.00

00:47:10.000 God, what happened to girls that want to get choked? 1.00

00:47:12.000 Ugh! 0.97

00:47:14.000 Why you gotta go to that extreme? 0.85

00:47:17.000 What's wrong with this spanking?

00:47:18.000 That's all. 0.98

00:47:19.000 I'm just spanking and choking. 1.00

00:47:20.000 Do you think all the choking and spanking and like, you know how like some girls have like rape fantasies and shit like that? 1.00

00:47:26.000 Do you think that's all because men have just become such pussies? 1.00

00:47:29.000 They want to see if they have the ability to even do it? 1.00

00:47:34.000 No. 1.00

00:47:34.000 I think some girls have this primal need to know that you can kill them. 1.00

00:47:38.000 But don't they know that? 0.98

00:47:40.000 This thing turns them on.

00:47:41.000 Not kill them.

00:47:42.000 Protect them, right? 0.95

00:47:43.000 It's not kill them.

00:47:45.000 Yeah, for sure. 1.00

00:47:46.000 But they want to know you could kill them. 0.99

00:47:47.000 Not that you're going to. 1.00

00:47:49.000 Kill them or kill someone else trying to get them? 1.00

00:47:51.000 That hand on your neck when they're choking you, they want to be like close to the door of you doing something violent to them while you're fucking them so it feels good while you've got control over their life. 1.00

00:48:01.000 You really have like, you're holding their neck, you've got control over their life. 0.99

00:48:04.000 So why do we...

00:48:05.000 Look at your face!

00:48:07.000 Dude!

00:48:07.000 But like...

00:48:08.000 You know all these dudes that jerk off with a belt on their neck and shit like that and we call them weirdos? 1.00

00:48:12.000 That's just women. 1.00

00:48:14.000 Yeah, but that's different.

00:48:15.000 That's autoerotic asphyxiation. 1.00

00:48:17.000 Well, but it's choking a bitch. 1.00

00:48:18.000 It is, but I think the choking is you're doing it, a man is doing it to you. 1.00

00:48:22.000 It's not just that you're running out of oxygen because someone's squeezing the blood out of your brain.

00:48:27.000 Right. 1.00

00:48:27.000 But it's also that someone's doing it to you while they're fucking. 1.00

00:48:30.000 Do you guys go for the whole choke? 0.93

00:48:32.000 Because what I do is, I like put my hand there, and then I kind of just tense my forearm, but I don't really squeeze the fingers.

00:48:39.000 My wife doesn't play like that. 1.00

00:48:41.000 She won't let me do that.

00:48:42.000 She wants the whole choke? 1.00

00:48:43.000 No, she doesn't like that.

00:48:44.000 Oh, she doesn't like that.

00:48:46.000 Because she knows you could do it!

00:48:47.000 Well, it's not just that.

00:48:48.000 She sees you choke people out regularly.

00:48:50.000 She knows you're capable.

00:48:51.000 But the kind of girl that wants you to choke her like that, I think you should leave that one alone. 1.00

00:48:55.000 Dude, my wife likes a little choking, but I mean, as we've gotten older, all of that stuff has kind of like subsided, but she used to like a lot of choking. 0.54

00:49:02.000 We've been together 22 years, though.

00:49:03.000 Yeah, you want to play it.

00:49:04.000 Yeah, but y'all know she like it tonight. 0.53

00:49:06.000 She's naked.

00:49:08.000 But I do it!

00:49:11.000 It's not for us!

00:49:13.000 It's for you!

00:49:13.000 It's happening to you!

00:49:14.000 Some girls love it, man. 1.00

00:49:15.000 They do!

00:49:16.000 Some girls love it. 1.00

00:49:16.000 But I think it's really because they see men as pathetic now. 1.00

00:49:20.000 They see men as babies, and the more pathetic and, like, cucked up a guy is, they're like, okay, choke me, slap me around. 1.00

00:49:25.000 Show me that you have some testosterone. 1.00

00:49:26.000 Show me that you have some testosterone.

00:49:26.000 Show me you have some sort of strength.

00:49:27.000 Yeah, but that don't mean you got to go give OJ some pussy, though. 1.00

00:49:29.000 My God. 1.00

00:49:30.000 Jesus Christ.

00:49:31.000 You think they're asking OJ to choke him?

00:49:32.000 Richard Ramirez used to have girls visiting him.

00:49:35.000 Manson was married when he died.

00:49:36.000 Yeah, but Manson had charm.

00:49:38.000 He must have had something.

00:49:39.000 No.

00:49:39.000 He must have had something.

00:49:40.000 All of those guys had fame.

00:49:42.000 Fame has always been an attraction to people. 0.97

00:49:43.000 But he wasn't famous in the beginning when he was getting people to do all that wild shit. 0.98

00:49:47.000 He was Panin. 0.99

00:49:48.000 Manson, right?

00:49:49.000 Well, he wasn't famous, but he was a cult leader.

00:49:51.000 So he was the leader of a small group.

00:49:53.000 So he was infamous amongst that group of people.

00:49:57.000 But you've got to at least turn a couple people to turn it into a cult.

00:50:00.000 Eventually, it becomes part of it. 0.99

00:50:02.000 When you look at social media, you realize that ain't really shit, right? 0.99

00:50:04.000 It ain't really shit to have a following. 0.99

00:50:06.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

00:50:07.000 500 followers on social media is pathetic. 0.98

00:50:10.000 Right. 0.92

00:50:10.000 But 500 in real life. 0.92

00:50:12.000 Yo.

00:50:12.000 You're the man.

00:50:13.000 You're Jim Jones.

00:50:14.000 He's like, wow.

00:50:14.000 Especially in 67. Yeah, man.

00:50:16.000 You get 10 people to kill themselves in 67?

00:50:20.000 Oh, my God. 0.77

00:50:22.000 Yeah.

00:50:22.000 Man, some people can't get 10 people to a comedy show.

00:50:24.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:50:26.000 That's a different kind of captive audience.

00:50:27.000 Yeah, and you've got to fax them.

00:50:30.000 There's no organization.

00:50:31.000 Everything has to happen in real life.

00:50:33.000 Yeah, what was that speech like?

00:50:35.000 What was the speech when he made everybody drink the Kool-Aid?

00:50:38.000 Bro, let me tell you something. 0.98

00:50:39.000 He had to have some balls, right? 0.99

00:50:41.000 That must have been... 0.99

00:50:42.000 Did they know they were drinking that?

00:50:43.000 It wasn't even Kool-Aid.

00:50:44.000 Kool-Aid took a bad rap.

00:50:46.000 It was some cheap Costco brand.

00:50:48.000 Kool-Aid existed even back then?

00:50:49.000 I think Kool-Aid existed.

00:50:51.000 So they went with the generic to kill him? 1.00

00:50:52.000 They went with some bullshit Kool-Aid. 1.00

00:50:54.000 It's like they didn't have enough money for all Kool-Aid. 1.00

00:50:56.000 They just gave people something. 0.99

00:50:57.000 Hey, whatever the fuck they drink, they're serving it in the Dominican Republic at Resorts right now. 0.99

00:51:03.000 That's a cocktail in sandals. 1.00

00:51:05.000 What the fuck is happening in the Dominican Republic? 1.00

00:51:07.000 What happened? 1.00

00:51:08.000 All these people are dying.

00:51:09.000 Well, they tried to get at Big Papi.

00:51:11.000 No, man.

00:51:13.000 People are dying at resorts.

00:51:14.000 That was an assassination attempt.

00:51:16.000 Hold on.

00:51:16.000 People are dying at these resorts.

00:51:18.000 They're listening to all these Americans that are being poisoned. 0.98

00:51:20.000 One lady got beaten to death and raped. 0.90

00:51:22.000 She didn't get beaten to death, but beaten half to death. 0.75

00:51:24.000 She survived, but her whole head was just a big swollen mass of blood and injuries.

00:51:29.000 Some guy worked at this resort. 0.99

00:51:32.000 She saw him wearing, or at least he was wearing an outfit, clubbed her over the head, and did all kinds of crazy shit to her and left her for dead. 1.00

00:51:39.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:51:40.000 I read a story today.

00:51:41.000 It was a group of high school kids who went to the DR of celebrating graduation or whatever.

00:51:46.000 All of them ended up in the hospital. 0.99

00:51:47.000 And nobody knows why this shit is happening. 0.99

00:51:49.000 Nine people have died at these resorts and nobody knows why. 0.99

00:51:52.000 And a lot of them are dying from pulmonary edema and heart failure.

00:51:56.000 What is that? 0.99

00:51:56.000 It's like some blood issue and they're drinking things from the minibar and fucking broken. 0.99

00:52:01.000 From the minibar, yes. 0.99

00:52:01.000 What? 0.99

00:52:02.000 You didn't hear about that shit? 1.00

00:52:03.000 No! 1.00

00:52:04.000 What is the number of people that have died over there now?

00:52:10.000 Wait a minute.

00:52:11.000 Nine?

00:52:13.000 And it's happening in the resorts, the safe spots?

00:52:17.000 Yeah, it's happening in the resorts. 1.00

00:52:18.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99

00:52:20.000 We gotta go to DR. What? 0.99

00:52:23.000 We gotta hunt.

00:52:24.000 That's hunting right there.

00:52:26.000 Let's get into it.

00:52:28.000 Let's get to the bottom of it. 0.99

00:52:30.000 You really wanna do some nature shit, Joe? 0.99

00:52:32.000 You wanna go do some nature shit? 1.00

00:52:33.000 Let's go hunt some rapists in the DR. I wonder what's happening. 1.00

00:52:36.000 I don't think it's just rape.

00:52:38.000 People are just killing people. 0.96

00:52:39.000 They say they're drinking at these mini bars and drinking at these bars and they've been testing the alcohol and it's like fake alcohol or some shit like that. 0.99

00:52:46.000 I don't know what the fuck is going on. 0.98

00:52:47.000 I just know nine people have died. 0.99

00:52:49.000 Yeah, I'm not going.

00:52:50.000 Nah.

00:52:50.000 Yeah, I'm not going.

00:52:51.000 Yeah, you can't tell.

00:52:52.000 That's all it takes. 0.91

00:52:53.000 All it takes is nine people going to fuck up your whole tourist economy. 0.99

00:52:56.000 You would think, but we live in this era where people are like, oh shit, let's go over there and see if we can survive the DR. It's become like a fucking game almost. 1.00

00:53:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:53:08.000 Well, this is when anybody dies of a cocaine overdose. 1.00

00:53:10.000 Everybody wants the shit that they died from. 1.00

00:53:11.000 That's old school. 1.00

00:53:12.000 Where you want the good shit. 1.00

00:53:14.000 Yeah, you want the shit they died from. 1.00

00:53:14.000 You ever do coke? 1.00

00:53:15.000 No.

00:53:16.000 Never.

00:53:16.000 Never done it.

00:53:17.000 You ever do coke?

00:53:17.000 I fake sniffed coke once.

00:53:19.000 I smoked it in a blunt with some weed back in the day, but I fake sniffed it.

00:53:23.000 It was like the lines were on the table. 0.99

00:53:25.000 And I just wanted to make the people I was around feel comfortable, almost like on some training day shit. 0.97

00:53:28.000 I didn't want them to think I was like an undercover cop or anything. 0.99

00:53:31.000 So I motherfucking, you just do like this, and you knock it off, and just make sure you get a little on your face, and you just go, woo! 0.99

00:53:38.000 And everybody's high, so it's not like they really fucking noticed. 1.00

00:53:41.000 Wait, do black dudes say woo after doing coke too? 0.99

00:53:43.000 I don't know, I did. 1.00

00:53:50.000 Every movie I saw, they let out a goddamn Ric Flair. 0.99

00:53:53.000 Woo! 0.99

00:53:54.000 I've had that tea, that mata de coco tea.

00:53:56.000 It's like tea made out of coca leaves.

00:53:59.000 Yeah.

00:53:59.000 And it goes?

00:54:00.000 Yeah, apparently the leaves, if you just chew them, are actually good for you.

00:54:04.000 They have phytonutrients.

00:54:05.000 It's like a cup of coffee.

00:54:07.000 But it's healthy.

00:54:08.000 It's actually good for you. 0.99

00:54:10.000 Those high-altitude herders, they put a big wad of that shit in their mouth, they chew on it, and it releases into their bloodstream, and it's actually healthy. 0.99

00:54:18.000 It's not bad for you. 1.00

00:54:19.000 It's when they process it and turn it into cocaine that it's bad.

00:54:22.000 What I've had is coca leaves in a tea form.

00:54:26.000 So you just take the leaves, and it's in a tea bag, and you drink the tea.

00:54:30.000 It just makes you kind of like hyper, and you talk too much. 0.98

00:54:32.000 I'm not going to lie, when I smoked that cocaine with that weed by accident, that was the best high I've ever had in my motherfucking life. 0.98

00:54:38.000 Really? 0.99

00:54:39.000 Yes.

00:54:40.000 I used to always say I would do it again by accident if it was opportunity.

00:54:43.000 By accident on purpose? 1.00

00:54:45.000 But I think I'm too old for that shit now. 1.00

00:54:47.000 But back then, my God, I remember that high like it was yesterday. 1.00

00:54:50.000 Why?

00:54:51.000 What a feeling.

00:54:52.000 Like he said, you just feel very alive.

00:54:55.000 You feel aware.

00:54:56.000 Everything just seems bright, even when it's dark out.

00:54:59.000 You feel like you're actually on top of something.

00:55:03.000 You just feel mad hyper, but when you crash, you crash.

00:55:07.000 Game over.

00:55:08.000 When you crash, it's over.

00:55:09.000 You guys ever tried Molly?

00:55:10.000 Yeah.

00:55:11.000 Well, I've tried MDMA. MDMA, yeah.

00:55:13.000 Same shit. 1.00

00:55:14.000 Only once, though. 1.00

00:55:15.000 You like it or no?

00:55:16.000 I loved the feeling when I was on it.

00:55:18.000 I did not like it.

00:55:19.000 The next day I couldn't read.

00:55:20.000 I was trying to read a magazine and I couldn't read.

00:55:23.000 Really?

00:55:23.000 I was like, I just can't.

00:55:24.000 I couldn't follow it.

00:55:25.000 My brain was so dried out.

00:55:27.000 Just shut down. 0.86

00:55:28.000 It was just dead. 1.00

00:55:29.000 And then I went on stage that night and ate shit. 0.99

00:55:31.000 Yeah, because the synapses aren't firing. 1.00

00:55:33.000 Nothing.

00:55:33.000 I was slow and sloppy.

00:55:35.000 My delivery was off. 1.00

00:55:36.000 Fucked up because when you said ate shit, I thought literally. 1.00

00:55:38.000 I was like, I can't wait to hear this stuff. 1.00

00:55:40.000 I was like, you started reaching in your fucking pants and then pulling out shit. 1.00

00:55:44.000 I lost my mind. 1.00

00:55:47.000 Dude, I've been going to Burning Man the last few years, right?

00:55:50.000 Really?

00:55:50.000 Yeah, last three years I've been going.

00:55:52.000 Gotta get that hippie pussy. 1.00

00:55:53.000 Bro, dude, it's not even really like, for me at least, I haven't even really been fucking there. 1.00

00:55:57.000 No? 0.85

00:55:57.000 No, dude. 0.85

00:55:58.000 You're not showering, you're all fucking hopped up on drugs and shit like that. 1.00

00:56:02.000 I think the fuck communities exist, but I don't want to sell it. 1.00

00:56:05.000 It's weird to sell it, but it's a really cool experience. 0.99

00:56:07.000 You would probably really love it.

00:56:09.000 I tried Molly.

00:56:10.000 People say when you try drugs, it gives you this heightened version of reality that you can't come to naturally.

00:56:18.000 Then you have a new perspective because of it.

00:56:19.000 Some people say that about acid or mushrooms and these types of things.

00:56:23.000 It was weird because for the first time in my life, I felt past emotionally full, it was like excess.

00:56:31.000 Does that make sense?

00:56:32.000 You know when you kill on stage and you walk off and you just want to like help people?

00:56:35.000 Yeah.

00:56:36.000 Because you filled up the void and then you have a little extra.

00:56:40.000 Right?

00:56:40.000 Yeah.

00:56:40.000 So Molly put me there, and I was like, oh, this is how people who feel no void operate.

00:56:46.000 Like, I was just calling my parents.

00:56:48.000 I was calling my best friends and telling them I love them, and I'm going to take care of your kids if anything happens. 1.00

00:56:53.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:56:54.000 Bro, yeah. 1.00

00:56:54.000 Maybe it just gave you the courage to do things you... 1.00

00:56:57.000 Want to do, but for whatever reason you choose not to.

00:57:00.000 Right, because, you know, before I'm busy trying to fill the void, right?

00:57:05.000 Be it through laughs or through content, whatever we're doing.

00:57:07.000 And here I had the excess.

00:57:08.000 And it was an interesting experience to make me go, okay, I can probably hit this, maybe without the drug.

00:57:13.000 I can do things in my life.

00:57:14.000 Exercise or...

00:57:15.000 Gratitude.

00:57:16.000 Gratitude, 100%.

00:57:17.000 Yeah, 100%?

00:57:19.000 Dr. Wayne W. Dye said that you won't find your true purpose.

00:57:23.000 Your true purpose in life is service to others, right?

00:57:25.000 So I think most people that are public servants and give their lives to other people, I think that's the ultimate high.

00:57:32.000 But it's so crazy.

00:57:33.000 It's like, you don't get to notice that until you're there.

00:57:36.000 Like, it's so easy to tell people, hey, you should be grateful, and then you'll feel better. 0.97

00:57:40.000 But if they're not able to feel the sensation of gratitude, you're explaining to them, you're explaining Chinese to someone who doesn't even know what the fuck the language is.

00:57:51.000 We're all in this unique situation where we've probably experienced that, and we probably tried to find ways to give back, et cetera, and then we felt really good because of it, and we're like, I should keep doing this.

00:58:00.000 This is a really good feeling.

00:58:02.000 But imagine someone who's barely surviving.

00:58:05.000 Yeah, but they still have something to give.

00:58:07.000 They just don't realize it.

00:58:08.000 You might have $10 in your bank account, but guess what?

00:58:10.000 It's a homeless person on the street that has zero.

00:58:13.000 You give him a dollar, you might feel great.

00:58:15.000 And then he takes that dollar, and he's so appreciative.

00:58:17.000 Like, thank you, thank you.

00:58:18.000 That'll make you immediately feel better.

00:58:20.000 Yeah, really, just helping people without any, you know, you have no ulterior motive.

00:58:24.000 It's a great feeling.

00:58:25.000 Word.

00:58:26.000 It's addictive.

00:58:27.000 I thought about that with karma, right?

00:58:28.000 We always look at karma and we think that karma is what you put out is what you're supposed to get back.

00:58:33.000 No, karma is just an action.

00:58:34.000 And you're supposed to do those things just because it's the right thing to do.

00:58:38.000 Period.

00:58:39.000 I think also karma involves you feeling the way you feel about yourself.

00:58:42.000 Because when you do shitty things, you feel you have a bad self-image.

00:58:46.000 Absolutely.

00:58:46.000 You live in your karma.

00:58:47.000 That's what people don't get.

00:58:48.000 It's not like, here's a dollar for a homeless guy.

00:58:50.000 Five minutes later, I should get $10.

00:58:52.000 It's not an investment karma, right?

00:58:54.000 It's, I feel better when I'm acting right.

00:58:57.000 That's it.

00:58:58.000 It's simple as that.

00:58:59.000 You can't run from yourself.

00:59:00.000 You cannot.

00:59:01.000 You go to sleep every night.

00:59:02.000 You look in the mirror.

00:59:04.000 When you jack off, you know what you're thinking about when you jack off.

00:59:06.000 You know you.

00:59:08.000 I think a lot of people don't understand that concept.

00:59:11.000 I can't do people dirty.

00:59:13.000 Because I know I did somebody dirty.

00:59:15.000 I can't do something foul to them.

00:59:16.000 Because you carry that.

00:59:17.000 Because I know I did something foul to me.

00:59:18.000 And even when somebody does something foul to me, I got to go through my fouls in my mind. 0.89

00:59:22.000 Did I do something fucked up to this person? 0.88

00:59:24.000 Did I do something to cause them to react this way? 0.95

00:59:27.000 No, I didn't.

00:59:28.000 That's their problem.

00:59:29.000 And that's the competitive advantage of sociopaths.

00:59:32.000 Is they don't carry the negative karma.

00:59:34.000 Sure.

00:59:35.000 Right?

00:59:35.000 They have the interaction.

00:59:36.000 We, the three of us, would walk around afterwards. 0.98

00:59:38.000 Like, man, I shouldn't have fucking done that. 0.99

00:59:40.000 What the fuck was wrong with me? 1.00

00:59:41.000 I feel like a piece of shit. 1.00

00:59:42.000 They just go, eh, all right, that happened. 1.00

00:59:43.000 I don't believe that.

00:59:44.000 No, that's why they're effective in business.

00:59:46.000 That's why they're effective in politics.

00:59:48.000 That's why you see these personality types succeed with the ability to just destroy thousands of lives.

00:59:54.000 I get what you're saying, but I think eventually it catches up to all of them.

00:59:57.000 I don't think it does emotionally. 1.00

00:59:58.000 I think they're just suppressing shit so much, but eventually I think that shit just explodes in them and causes them to go crazy if they don't fucking get killed first. 0.99

01:00:05.000 There are people, though, that don't experience any emotions the way we experience them. 1.00

01:00:09.000 No empathy.

01:00:10.000 Yeah.

01:00:10.000 They're broken.

01:00:11.000 There's something wrong with the synapses.

01:00:13.000 I was like that for a long time.

01:00:15.000 When I started going to therapy is when I started piecing things together.

01:00:20.000 I made myself cold just because of how I felt like the world and the business was treating me at a certain point.

01:00:31.000 I was purposely making myself cold, and I thought that was the way that I had to be.

01:00:35.000 You fucking around to read books like the 48 Laws of Power when you're young, and you study all of these people who got to a certain point, and they all had this coldness about them, like this ruthlessness, like I'll step on anybody to get the way I need to be. 1.00

01:00:49.000 But then you realize, these motherfuckers are miserable. 1.00

01:00:52.000 That's the thing. 1.00

01:00:53.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:00:54.000 Dude, so you were on the island, right?

01:00:56.000 Lanai.

01:00:57.000 Yeah.

01:00:57.000 Right?

01:00:57.000 And were you hanging out with any of the island folks at all?

01:00:59.000 Yeah.

01:01:01.000 So, there's this comic named Lil Duval.

01:01:03.000 I really think he's one of the people who understands life better than anybody on this planet.

01:01:07.000 My guy.

01:01:08.000 Good brother.

01:01:09.000 Yeah, he's a good buddy of ours. 0.99

01:01:10.000 He's fucking brilliant. 0.99

01:01:12.000 The same dude for the Smile Bitch song? 1.00

01:01:14.000 There you go! 1.00

01:01:15.000 Smile Bitch! 1.00

01:01:16.000 Joe, when I'm telling you... 0.99

01:01:17.000 Stylebender comes out to that song.

01:01:18.000 Yo, shouts to Izzy, man. 0.98

01:01:20.000 We were on this podcast last time we were talking about how Izzy was going to do it, man.

01:01:24.000 But, um...

01:01:25.000 He's one of these guys, I promise you, his understanding of life is unparalleled.

01:01:30.000 Unparalleled to anybody I've ever studied.

01:01:32.000 And you see a song like Smile Bitch, and we see it maybe on surface value, but everything he does has a purpose, and he's aware of the purpose, right?

01:01:39.000 He's aware of the energy he puts out in the ecosystem and how it affects the ecosystem.

01:01:43.000 And he was telling me how he likes to go to the islands.

01:01:45.000 I visited him in Bahamas, and he likes to be in the Bahamas.

01:01:47.000 And I was like, why?

01:01:48.000 Why do you like to be here?

01:01:48.000 He goes, because people understand what life is here.

01:01:51.000 I go, what are you talking about?

01:01:52.000 He goes... 0.99

01:01:54.000 They don't get caught up in the bullshit that we get caught up in the States, right? 0.99

01:01:57.000 In the States, everybody here thinks they're going to be a millionaire. 0.99

01:02:00.000 Everybody does.

01:02:01.000 We have a lottery, a reality show, some viral video.

01:02:04.000 And you go to the island and they understand that they're going to live and die there.

01:02:07.000 And then they start to realize, hey, I got to just maximize happiness in life.

01:02:11.000 Try to get some chicken tenders on the island when we were in Bahamas. 0.99

01:02:14.000 It takes 50 minutes, an hour, for fucking five chicken tenders. 0.99

01:02:17.000 I'm like, why the fuck is it taking so long? 0.99

01:02:19.000 And he looks at me and he goes, why should they hurry? 0.99

01:02:22.000 His philosophy is real Buddhist-like.

01:02:25.000 He doesn't know that, but his philosophy is real Buddhist.

01:02:29.000 He's aware of it.

01:02:30.000 He don't even know.

01:02:30.000 You call him right now and say, who's Buddhist?

01:02:32.000 He'd be like, I didn't go to school to know Buddha.

01:02:34.000 He doesn't know anything.

01:02:37.000 But he knows instinctively.

01:02:39.000 No formal education comes from nothing.

01:02:42.000 And the way that he's found a way to understand humanity, it's his competitive advantage in the industry he's in.

01:02:47.000 He just truly understands humanity.

01:02:49.000 Fascinating. 0.99

01:02:49.000 We've complicated this shit. 0.99

01:02:51.000 Dude, we have. 1.00

01:02:52.000 Capitalism has complicated things.

01:02:54.000 The cultures that we strive to be a part of have complicated things.

01:02:59.000 The truth of the matter is life is about treating people good, being a public servant, and dying.

01:03:07.000 Yo, the crazy thing, he goes, I love, I love, and this is what's hard to understand because I love hanging out with old people.

01:03:12.000 I'm like, why?

01:03:12.000 He goes, because they understand life.

01:03:13.000 I go, what do you mean?

01:03:14.000 He goes, you eventually get to a certain point where you realize you're going to die. 0.93

01:03:18.000 And all these things that you want to accomplish that you thought you had to accomplish and all this shit that you thought you had to get done in order to value yourself is meaningless. 0.93

01:03:24.000 It was just distraction until we get there. 0.91

01:03:26.000 Yeah, that's the concept.

01:03:28.000 It's hard to swallow, dude, because you have to let go of ego, right?

01:03:31.000 You have to go, okay, I'm okay as I am, and I'm okay having a good conversation with somebody or a good interaction today or just fucking sitting on the beach and looking at the stars, right?

01:03:41.000 These are cool things.

01:03:42.000 That's just as valuable as having a YouTube clip hit a million or something like that.

01:03:46.000 These things aren't any different in the grand scope of things, right?

01:03:51.000 Yeah, I believe in the law of attraction, right?

01:03:52.000 Your thoughts become things.

01:03:53.000 So that's why it's hard for me to grasp the concept of, okay, one day you're going to die.

01:03:57.000 Because in my mind, I want to die when I'm 90, 100 years old.

01:04:01.000 But, you know, you read certain things and they're like, no, you have to embrace it.

01:04:03.000 You have to tell yourself every day, you're going to die.

01:04:05.000 Because then you'll live your life like every day is your last.

01:04:08.000 Yeah.

01:04:09.000 That's a hard concept.

01:04:10.000 Do you know C.T. Fletcher?

01:04:12.000 I've heard that name.

01:04:14.000 He had a heart transplant last year and he came on the podcast a year after his heart transplant and you've never seen a guy more loving and open and friendly and thankful and tells everybody he loves him and he's hugging everybody and just genuinely grateful because he was at death's door.

01:04:33.000 Legitimately at death's door.

01:04:34.000 His heart was failing him.

01:04:35.000 His father's heart had failed him.

01:04:37.000 His brother's...

01:04:39.000 He's got congenital heart disease in his family.

01:04:41.000 And he knew that his heart was going. 0.99

01:04:43.000 He had had heart attacks, he had had surgery, and they transplanted his fucking heart, and they put a woman's heart inside of him, too. 0.99

01:04:49.000 Wow. 1.00

01:04:50.000 Which is also fucked with him. 0.99

01:04:51.000 That's what he's loving? 1.00

01:04:51.000 Crazy. 1.00

01:04:52.000 Wow.

01:04:52.000 No, but I mean, it's just like, that's the one that fit.

01:04:55.000 Yeah.

01:04:55.000 You know, it was like, this matches you, and we're ready to do it.

01:04:58.000 Bam.

01:04:59.000 So now here he is a year later, but that guy has this renewed lease on life, and he just glows like a religious figure.

01:05:08.000 Because he got close.

01:05:09.000 Yeah.

01:05:09.000 That would be a great concept for a movie.

01:05:11.000 Like somebody who was a male chauvinist all his life and shitting on women and then had to get a woman's heart and his whole concept of life change. 0.95

01:05:18.000 It's like a Jim Carrey movie or something. 0.99

01:05:20.000 Starts putting nail polish on.

01:05:24.000 Jealous for no reason.

01:05:25.000 Wow!

01:05:26.000 That would be interesting.

01:05:27.000 Crazy, yeah.

01:05:28.000 But it is interesting.

01:05:29.000 It's like, that's why... 0.93

01:05:30.000 Now we're getting to the fucked up thing, right? 0.85

01:05:32.000 Like, this idea there is no good and bad, things just are, etc. 0.86

01:05:35.000 Right?

01:05:36.000 But like...

01:05:36.000 But there's good and bad in how the energy that you put out, how it affects people.

01:05:41.000 If you do a bad thing and it hurts a bunch of people's lives...

01:05:45.000 You're changing how those people are going to interact with all the people they experience as well. 0.76

01:05:49.000 Yeah, you fucked up the ecosystem.

01:05:50.000 And there's a ripple effect with the ecosystem, right? 0.95

01:05:52.000 But let's say you look at...

01:05:53.000 Earlier, we were talking about bears, right?

01:05:55.000 Or maybe I was watching a clip of your show, but you were talking...

01:05:57.000 I think it was you and Duncan.

01:05:58.000 And you're like, bears really just attract baby animals.

01:06:02.000 That's what they eat.

01:06:02.000 They eat baby deer.

01:06:03.000 Yeah, they eat whatever they can, but they eat most...

01:06:06.000 Most of the baby deer that die get eaten. 0.95

01:06:08.000 They're like animal pedophiles. 1.00

01:06:10.000 They're just killing fucking kids. 1.00

01:06:12.000 That's what they do. 1.00

01:06:13.000 That's what they fucking do. 1.00

01:06:15.000 Coca-Cola's sponsor is an animal pedophile just eating baby seals. 1.00

01:06:20.000 That, in our culture, would be a piece of shit. 1.00

01:06:23.000 What if there was a group of people that just killed kids? 1.00

01:06:26.000 We would call them pieces of shit. 1.00

01:06:28.000 That would be a bad thing. 1.00

01:06:29.000 But that's just, you've acknowledged, within the ecosystem of those animals, It's necessary.

01:06:37.000 Yeah.

01:06:37.000 Right?

01:06:38.000 The bears need to. 0.92

01:06:39.000 How do we know, though? 0.99

01:06:40.000 How do we know that it's not fucking groups of animal rights activists, animals in the woods, saying these fucking bears need to stop killing these kids? 0.99

01:06:47.000 I saw a video. 1.00

01:06:48.000 We don't know.

01:06:49.000 We don't know what these animals are really talking about and really discussing.

01:06:51.000 You know the shark fin soup?

01:06:53.000 We don't.

01:06:54.000 Yo, Charlotte, you know the shark fin soup?

01:06:56.000 No.

01:06:56.000 So they just cut the fins off the shark, and then they let the shark sink to the bottom of the ocean.

01:07:01.000 And die. 0.67

01:07:02.000 It just sinks to the bottom.

01:07:03.000 It can't swim.

01:07:03.000 It just sinks to the bottom.

01:07:04.000 And there was somebody tweeting about how horrible it is, but I bet there's a bunch of fish that are pulling up on that shark like, oh, look what we got here.

01:07:12.000 You know what I mean?

01:07:13.000 Are you going to be okay, bro? 1.00

01:07:15.000 You killed my whole family, you piece of shit. 1.00

01:07:17.000 You see, you've been deer hunting. 1.00

01:07:19.000 Deers don't just stand there when they see you.

01:07:21.000 No. 0.99

01:07:21.000 They get the fuck on. 0.99

01:07:23.000 Like, oh, here come them fucking humans with them guns again. 1.00

01:07:25.000 Like, I think animals are way smarter than we give them credit for. 1.00

01:07:29.000 Well, they have instincts.

01:07:30.000 I think they got a little more than instincts.

01:07:32.000 Some do.

01:07:33.000 Some animals are smart.

01:07:34.000 You know what's interesting? 1.00

01:07:34.000 Moose are some of the dumbest. 1.00

01:07:36.000 They're dumb as fuck. 1.00

01:07:38.000 We know, but you know why? 1.00

01:07:39.000 Why?

01:07:39.000 Because they're so big.

01:07:39.000 Because who's going to take them out?

01:07:41.000 Yeah.

01:07:41.000 They're so big.

01:07:42.000 All they have to do is stomp wolves. 0.86

01:07:44.000 That's all they have to do.

01:07:45.000 Wolves try to come after them, and then they just game over.

01:07:47.000 Stomp them. 0.99

01:07:47.000 If I was a moose, I'd be dumb, too, though. 0.99

01:07:49.000 Because I'd be looking at y'all like, y'all dumb. 0.99

01:07:51.000 Y'all really out here with us? 0.99

01:07:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:07:52.000 And this motherfucker, he don't got the nerve to try me. 1.00

01:07:56.000 That's your thing. 1.00

01:07:56.000 And then you go shooting at the moose, and you're like, fuck, he shot me. 1.00

01:07:59.000 It's like the mountain from Game of Thrones. 0.98

01:08:01.000 What's that guy's name?

01:08:02.000 Yeah, Thornborn.

01:08:04.000 Okay, I don't know his IQ, but I can't imagine it's incredible.

01:08:08.000 You think?

01:08:09.000 Six, nine, 300 pounds? 0.99

01:08:11.000 You don't gotta figure shit out. 0.97

01:08:12.000 You might not have to, but some dudes choose to. 0.99

01:08:14.000 There's giant dudes that are smart as fuck. 1.00

01:08:16.000 Small cocks. 1.00

01:08:17.000 That's what people would like to think.

01:08:20.000 That's what I have to think.

01:08:21.000 You have to think.

01:08:21.000 Yeah, you'd make yourself feel better, right?

01:08:23.000 You'd be six, nine and have a hammer?

01:08:24.000 People always say that about Shaq. 1.00

01:08:25.000 Someone's saying that about, oh, he's got a little dick. 0.99

01:08:27.000 Compared to who? 1.00

01:08:28.000 Well, no, I read, I read, I read, I read.

01:08:30.000 What's compared to a bear?

01:08:31.000 He's so big.

01:08:32.000 I read Corinne Steffen's book. 0.95

01:08:34.000 Corinne Steffen said she had sexual relations with Shaq. 0.99

01:08:35.000 Superhead. 0.99

01:08:36.000 Superhead.

01:08:37.000 She said it's not little.

01:08:39.000 It's just regular. 1.00

01:08:41.000 So it's like, his dick probably looked big on me. 1.00

01:08:44.000 But on Shaq, it's just like, eh, nine inches ain't really big for you, Shaq. 1.00

01:08:50.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:08:51.000 It's that Chris Rock joke about the background. 0.99

01:08:53.000 He's like, I don't have a big dick, but I got a small background. 0.99

01:08:56.000 Or something like that. 0.99

01:08:57.000 So it looks big. 1.00

01:08:58.000 He's so skinny that his dick looks big. 1.00

01:08:59.000 Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. 1.00

01:09:02.000 Shaq needs to come through with a Time Warner remote.

01:09:04.000 Shaq needs 15 inches! 1.00

01:09:05.000 Shaq needs that gun on his dick. 1.00

01:09:07.000 That should be Shaq needs. 1.00

01:09:08.000 That boring company.

01:09:09.000 What is that called, Joe?

01:09:11.000 The boring company.

01:09:12.000 Not a flamethrower.

01:09:13.000 That's what Shaq needs.

01:09:14.000 Anything else to disappoint a woman? 1.00

01:09:15.000 I guess what I'm saying is like with C.T. Fletcher, right?

01:09:18.000 He needed to see death in order to have this amazing revelation about life. 0.97

01:09:23.000 And maybe the fucked up things that happen in the world.

01:09:25.000 Maybe if there is some sort of design to all this. 0.95

01:09:28.000 Maybe the fucked up things that happen in the world allow us to have a little bit of empathy and joy for being able to be here. 0.99

01:09:34.000 Well, you got to give a fuck about life, first of all, because I can think about all the near-death experiences I had, whether it was somebody pulling a gun on me, whether it was me being drunk as shit and wrecking my mom's white aluminum caravan, and literally the only reason I survived is because I didn't have a seatbelt on it because I was so drunk that the impact didn't kill me. 0.99

01:09:51.000 I didn't think about stuff like that until decades later. 0.99

01:09:54.000 When it happened in the moment, it was just like...

01:09:56.000 Alright, whatever.

01:09:57.000 I got into a wreck.

01:09:58.000 Oh, I got a gun pulled on me. 0.99

01:09:59.000 But when you're older and I got three daughters and I look at my wife and I look at people that love and care about me and I really appreciate and value life now, I start thinking back on that shit like, what the fuck was I thinking? 0.99

01:10:09.000 I didn't give a shit about life back then. 0.98

01:10:11.000 But I can get an anxiety attack thinking about those past moments because those past moments would have caused so much not to happen if I'd have died. 0.99

01:10:21.000 Yeah.

01:10:21.000 You gotta care.

01:10:22.000 You gotta care and you have to have something to care for.

01:10:24.000 And that's one of the things that really changes when you have children.

01:10:26.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:10:28.000 Chappelle said the best thing to me.

01:10:30.000 He said, not only did it change how much I love, he goes, it changed my capacity for love.

01:10:35.000 It teaches you how to love.

01:10:37.000 Yeah.

01:10:37.000 You might not even know what real love is until you have children and you realize like, man, this is like my heart walking around outside my body.

01:10:43.000 Yeah.

01:10:44.000 And you feel a different level of love, a different level of empathy.

01:10:46.000 Like, I remember my daughter had attracted me like two, three years ago.

01:10:50.000 And she was learning the long jump.

01:10:52.000 And, you know, it was like the first time she ever did the long jump.

01:10:56.000 So it was literally, it wasn't even a meet.

01:10:57.000 It was like practice, right?

01:10:58.000 And so she goes and do the jump. 0.88

01:11:00.000 And I just, I go, oh my God, that was horrible.

01:11:02.000 And she just burst out into tears. 0.99

01:11:04.000 And I'm like, what the What the fuck did I just do? 0.97

01:11:07.000 What did I say? 0.99

01:11:07.000 My wife was like, what's your problem? 0.99

01:11:10.000 And then other parents are coming like, oh, it'll be fine.

01:11:12.000 You did perfectly. 1.00

01:11:12.000 I said, shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:11:13.000 She didn't do good. 1.00

01:11:14.000 But I didn't understand that my word meant everything to her.

01:11:20.000 Like, everything.

01:11:22.000 So I just took all her confidence out of her and just that one snap of a finger like Thanos. 1.00

01:11:27.000 And that shit, even thinking about that shit now, hurts my heart. 1.00

01:11:30.000 But I've never made that mistake again. 1.00

01:11:32.000 Now I'm the father that...

01:11:34.000 That overly tells her how great she is.

01:11:37.000 And I know how to explain to her if she does something that I necessarily don't think is great.

01:11:41.000 I know how to explain it to her in a way where she can do better.

01:11:44.000 And she's very receptive to that.

01:11:46.000 It changes who you are.

01:11:48.000 How many kids?

01:11:49.000 Three.

01:11:49.000 All daughters, too.

01:11:51.000 Oh, you was a hoe in a past life like me. 1.00

01:11:53.000 See?

01:11:53.000 There you go, Rogan!

01:11:54.000 I'm telling you, this is Parallel Universe's meeting right now, I swear to God. 0.92

01:11:58.000 Rogan was out there knocking them down, doing girls dirty!

01:12:06.000 I have a joke about how much it changed the way I feel about life.

01:12:10.000 When my daughter was little, there was two bananas. 0.99

01:12:13.000 And one of them was brown and fucked up and old. 0.99

01:12:16.000 And one of them was perfect. 0.99

01:12:18.000 And I looked at those two bananas and I know my daughter loves bananas.

01:12:21.000 So she'd probably want that nice banana. 0.99

01:12:23.000 So I ate that fucked up banana. 0.99

01:12:25.000 So while sitting there eating this mushy mashed potato textured banana, I was thinking about, there's not another person in this world I would do that for. 0.99

01:12:34.000 Because I love my wife.

01:12:36.000 My wife is an amazing person. 1.00

01:12:37.000 But if it was just me and my wife, I'd be like, ooh, I guess that bitch is getting a shitty banana. 1.00

01:12:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:45.000 You would ask her three times.

01:12:46.000 You sure?

01:12:47.000 You sure?

01:12:48.000 You sure?

01:12:49.000 Everything's good?

01:12:53.000 You sure?

01:12:53.000 It's pretty good banana?

01:12:54.000 It's perfect banana.

01:12:56.000 You just ask the wife three times. 0.83

01:12:58.000 Kids, they get it from the start.

01:13:01.000 I'd jump in front of a bus for her. 1.00

01:13:02.000 It's a different thing. 1.00

01:13:04.000 People say I would die for you, but they don't mean it most of the time, unless they're a soldier who's willing to dive on a fucking grenade. 0.99

01:13:12.000 But if I could die and I knew that my kids would be happy and healthy, but if I lived, they would die. 1.00

01:13:17.000 I would die.

01:13:18.000 I flew out here.

01:13:20.000 I left New York 5.30 this morning simply because I was supposed to fly out last night, but my daughter had a track dinner, which I forgot about.

01:13:28.000 And it was literally like a track dinner. 0.95

01:13:30.000 It's in a fucking gym, and they're serving chicken tenders and lasagna and pizza and listening to Old Town Road 10 different times. 0.98

01:13:40.000 Everybody gets a participation trophy. 0.99

01:13:43.000 12th place!

01:13:43.000 Go to 11th place!

01:13:45.000 I'm like, oh fucking god. 0.99

01:13:46.000 But I stayed just to be there. 0.98

01:13:49.000 I changed my flight and everything just to fly out this morning because I needed to be there for that track day.

01:13:54.000 You don't do that for people that you don't absolutely love and adore.

01:13:58.000 So here's a question.

01:13:59.000 You both have these kids and you need to balance Loving them so much and telling them they're the most amazing people in the entire world and not making them horrible human beings.

01:14:09.000 Well, more than that, not making them weak.

01:14:12.000 And not making them weak!

01:14:13.000 You have to give them adversity or they'll never know what to do with it.

01:14:15.000 I think sports is the key to that.

01:14:18.000 Make them do things that are difficult.

01:14:20.000 Well, I know what you're saying about participation trophies, but get them involved in something competitive where they have to struggle.

01:14:25.000 So they'll learn what it's like to lose, they'll learn what life is like in a kind of controlled environment, and then you can still...

01:14:32.000 Nurture them and love them.

01:14:33.000 Yeah, the difference between people who participate in sports and people who don't is you learn what losing is.

01:14:38.000 Some people that never learn what losing is and they just are terrified of it.

01:14:41.000 But they're not teaching these kids how to lose no more.

01:14:43.000 It's true.

01:14:43.000 In school schools.

01:14:45.000 But I mean like competitive things.

01:14:46.000 Like get your kids involved in martial arts.

01:14:48.000 Get your kids involved in these things that are just, it's very clear.

01:14:52.000 It's binary.

01:14:52.000 One or zero.

01:14:53.000 Either you win or you lose.

01:14:54.000 Those are important.

01:14:56.000 You learn.

01:14:56.000 You learn, like, what struggle is.

01:14:58.000 If you have a race, right?

01:14:59.000 A track meet's a perfect example. 0.99

01:15:01.000 Someone fucking won. 0.99

01:15:02.000 Someone did not win. 1.00

01:15:03.000 That's it.

01:15:04.000 You know, like, oh, you gotta cross the line, and I'm second. 1.00

01:15:08.000 Fuck! 1.00

01:15:08.000 I gotta be first. 1.00

01:15:09.000 How the fuck can I be first? 0.98

01:15:10.000 I gotta figure out how to run faster. 0.99

01:15:12.000 That's it!

01:15:13.000 Will you guys ever be openly disappointed in them?

01:15:17.000 Will you show them that they let you down?

01:15:19.000 The only time I'm that way with my kids is when they're mean to each other.

01:15:22.000 I tell them, I go, this is unnecessary.

01:15:24.000 I know why you're feeling this way. 0.98

01:15:26.000 I know why you're mad at each other, but you can't be shitty to your sister. 0.96

01:15:29.000 You can't do that. 0.89

01:15:30.000 It's a bad thing.

01:15:32.000 You've got to learn how to take a deep breath and think about the consequences of what you're saying. 0.75

01:15:36.000 And every time you do do something shitty, learn from it. 0.70

01:15:38.000 It's a learning experience.

01:15:40.000 I think for me, I'm just like that when I think that they're being ungrateful.

01:15:43.000 My oldest daughter's 10, my second oldest is 3, so she doesn't really understand the concept.

01:15:48.000 My other daughter's 9 months old, but my 10-year-old It has lived a very privileged life. 0.99

01:15:53.000 And sometimes you see that bougie shit come out of it. 0.99

01:15:56.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

01:15:57.000 Like, it's just little things.

01:15:59.000 Like, I love this island called Anguilla.

01:16:01.000 You know what I mean?

01:16:02.000 And we vacation like two, three times a year.

01:16:04.000 Like, these long 10-day vacations.

01:16:06.000 Just like, Anguilla again.

01:16:08.000 You know?

01:16:11.000 We was in Grenada, and her and my niece, because my niece comes with me all the time, and they're just talking like, the food is so much better in Anguilla than here. 0.94

01:16:21.000 I'm like, yo, you know what the fuck I was doing when I was nine? 0.86

01:16:24.000 I was lighting toys on fire in my backyard. 0.99

01:16:28.000 You were talking to me.

01:16:29.000 Exactly.

01:16:30.000 I was on a dirt road in Monk's Corner, South Carolina.

01:16:32.000 Turning into Teen Wolf. 1.00

01:16:34.000 In a single wide fucking trail. 0.99

01:16:35.000 Like, that is the only thing that, like... 0.99

01:16:37.000 It pisses me off, just the lack of gratitude.

01:16:40.000 It's a perspective issue, though, right?

01:16:42.000 They're wealthy.

01:16:43.000 They're never going to understand what it's like to be poor.

01:16:45.000 So how do you instill that in them?

01:16:46.000 It's impossible.

01:16:47.000 There's got to be ways, man. 0.98

01:16:48.000 The problem is, man, all of my favorite people have fucked up childhoods. 0.99

01:16:52.000 Yes! 1.00

01:16:52.000 But I don't want my kids to have a fucked up childhood. 1.00

01:16:55.000 They're not supposed to. 0.99

01:16:56.000 My mom told me, we're here to make our children's lives better. 0.99

01:16:59.000 My mom actually showed me my great-great-grandfather's Taxes he had to pay one year, and that shit was like a quarter. 0.99

01:17:06.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.98

01:17:06.000 Like, it was just something light. 0.98

01:17:08.000 But back then, that was a lot of money.

01:17:10.000 So she was just saying that to me, just telling me that every generation is supposed to be better.

01:17:14.000 Because I got this thing sometimes where I feel guilty about doing so well. 0.98

01:17:18.000 Because I don't have no fucking skill set. 0.98

01:17:20.000 Like, I didn't go to college, you know what I'm saying? 0.99

01:17:22.000 I don't feel special.

01:17:24.000 Like, why am I in the position that I'm in?

01:17:26.000 My mother was a school teacher for 30 plus years.

01:17:28.000 The most she ever made was $30,000 a year in South Carolina. 0.99

01:17:31.000 I get that for a fucking appearance, so... 1.00

01:17:32.000 So it's like, that shit will make you feel bad sometimes. 0.99

01:17:36.000 Like, you'll feel a sense of guilt. 0.99

01:17:37.000 So she was just showing me that to say, hey, every generation is supposed to be better than the next generation.

01:17:41.000 So our kids are supposed to be way better than us.

01:17:44.000 Yeah, but don't you want to prepare them for that life?

01:17:47.000 Like, you look at any one of these movies or even stories about a king that took power and then the son that he has. 0.99

01:17:53.000 Son, he has always some spoiled little bitch who ruins the kingdom. 1.00

01:17:56.000 Well, that's the thing. 1.00

01:17:57.000 Find me a great man as a son of a great man.

01:18:00.000 Find me a man who's the son of a great man.

01:18:03.000 Who's the son of a great man.

01:18:05.000 Because a great man always has these weak little sons.

01:18:07.000 And it's like, how do you...

01:18:08.000 Maybe you do need to create adversity for your kid. 1.00

01:18:11.000 Maybe you do need to be a dick a little bit. 0.99

01:18:13.000 And maybe it's selfish to be sweet to your kid all the time. 1.00

01:18:17.000 Because you're not preparing them for the world when you're not there.

01:18:20.000 I think you prepare them for the world when you let them find their own way.

01:18:23.000 Yes.

01:18:24.000 Meaning like...

01:18:24.000 You gotta cut the cord.

01:18:26.000 Yeah, I don't want my daughter to get in the media, you know, if they choose, too cool.

01:18:30.000 You know, my daughter likes to write now, so she wants to be an author, fine.

01:18:33.000 I'm not really an author.

01:18:34.000 I wrote a couple books, you know what I'm saying?

01:18:37.000 Right.

01:18:37.000 With a ghostwriter.

01:18:38.000 Right.

01:18:42.000 I'm not really an author, so I want them to find their own way.

01:18:48.000 I think when they find their own way, then that gives them that integrity and that purpose and everything else that they're looking for. 0.83

01:18:55.000 I think when you hand them things, that's when the ego and all that other shit gets out of control.

01:19:00.000 They have to work for them. 0.95

01:19:01.000 What I see in the communities that I live in is I always like the rich kids that have nannies that take them everywhere and they don't see their parents very much because their parents work all the time.

01:19:10.000 And their parents vacation without the kids.

01:19:12.000 They like to go places without the kids all the time.

01:19:15.000 You see a lot of that. 1.00

01:19:16.000 Those kids are getting fucked up. 0.99

01:19:17.000 And you see them as they get older. 1.00

01:19:19.000 They're more and more vacant, more and more weird, more and more detached.

01:19:22.000 Yes.

01:19:23.000 But the kids that are around the family all the time and they do things with the family, then they get a richer experience.

01:19:29.000 It's neglect.

01:19:30.000 And it's the parents that are super driven and they're never home.

01:19:34.000 They're working 16 hours a day. 0.99

01:19:35.000 And that's why they live in this fucking giant mansion and drive around in a Bentley. 1.00

01:19:39.000 Those kids get fucked up. 1.00

01:19:41.000 And they wind up getting on drugs and feel empty and looking for something to fill them up. 1.00

01:19:45.000 Imagine your parents sent you to boarding school.

01:19:47.000 I have a buddy of mine.

01:19:48.000 A buddy of mine is Brian Cowan. 0.99

01:19:50.000 His parents sent him to fucking boarding school in the United States and they didn't even live in the United States. 0.99

01:19:55.000 They sent him to another country. 1.00

01:19:57.000 Jesus Christ.

01:19:58.000 Where is Brian from?

01:19:59.000 I love Brian.

01:19:59.000 Brian is from all over the world.

01:20:02.000 His dad was a banker, an international banker, air quotes. 0.98

01:20:07.000 And traveled everywhere and was involved in some weird foreign shit. 0.99

01:20:13.000 Gun deals? 0.99

01:20:13.000 Weapon deals? 0.99

01:20:14.000 We could talk later. 0.99

01:20:15.000 But he was involved in some weird, weird shit. 0.99

01:20:19.000 And then sent his kid, he was fucking 13 years old, sent him to the United States to go to boarding school. 0.99

01:20:23.000 And Brian, to this day, is still a little shell-shocked because of it. 0.98

01:20:26.000 Yeah, dude.

01:20:26.000 Imagine your parents send you away.

01:20:28.000 You feel like an orphan.

01:20:28.000 When you're 13. It's your fucking orphan, dude.

01:20:30.000 And imagine if he was at that boarding school and got fucking molested or something crazy. 1.00

01:20:33.000 You would really hate life and hate your parents. 1.00

01:20:35.000 Wait, Brian got molested? 0.99

01:20:37.000 No, I'm just saying.

01:20:38.000 Let's just say he did.

01:20:39.000 Let's just say he did.

01:20:41.000 Listen, somebody tried.

01:20:42.000 Who's funny that hasn't been?

01:20:44.000 Yeah.

01:20:45.000 You gotta get that funny diddled into you. 0.99

01:20:46.000 Something fucked up happened. 0.98

01:20:48.000 Really? 1.00

01:20:49.000 Yeah, if you're fucked up. 1.00

01:20:50.000 If you're funny, something fucked up happened. 1.00

01:20:51.000 You think so? 0.98

01:20:52.000 Yeah, I mean, some pain.

01:20:54.000 Some struggle.

01:20:55.000 Yeah, it's a defense mechanism.

01:20:56.000 No, you have to learn it.

01:20:58.000 You have to learn it.

01:20:58.000 Why would you need funny?

01:20:59.000 It's like...

01:21:00.000 It's why it's so rare to see...

01:21:02.000 That's a good point.

01:21:03.000 People always say this about women, but even attractive dudes.

01:21:05.000 Have you ever seen a male model that was funny? 0.99

01:21:08.000 Right.

01:21:08.000 That's what I say about girls.

01:21:09.000 Carrot topping is hilarious. 1.00

01:21:10.000 Unless you're fat, your stories suck. 1.00

01:21:12.000 Real talk! 1.00

01:21:13.000 It's true. 1.00

01:21:14.000 Dude, unless you have to earn pussy. 1.00

01:21:16.000 Lesbians are hilarious. 1.00

01:21:17.000 Because they've got to earn pussy, right? 1.00

01:21:19.000 They've got to fucking earn it. 1.00

01:21:19.000 Have you ever talked to Tiffany Haddish? 1.00

01:21:21.000 Yes. 1.00

01:21:21.000 Tragic as fuck. 1.00

01:21:22.000 Story. 1.00

01:21:23.000 Yes.

01:21:24.000 She's not fat.

01:21:25.000 No.

01:21:25.000 No, she's not fat.

01:21:26.000 No, but she had that tragedy, bro.

01:21:28.000 She has a tragedy.

01:21:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:21:29.000 The tragedy is the fattest.

01:21:30.000 Oh, so y'all said being fat is a tragedy.

01:21:32.000 Yes!

01:21:32.000 Oh, for sure.

01:21:33.000 Shit, that's why Ms. Pat is hilarious, because she's got both. 1.00

01:21:37.000 Holy shit! 1.00

01:21:40.000 That's why Miss Pat is about to be a superstar. 1.00

01:21:44.000 You would never want your kid to become Miss Pat, but you love Miss Pat.

01:21:49.000 You love Miss Pat.

01:21:50.000 Only because when you go through that kind of trauma, when you come out on the other side, you're really unstoppable.

01:21:57.000 Especially when you deal with what's going on in here, which is the toughest part, right?

01:22:01.000 I think that's what comedy does.

01:22:03.000 Comedy is therapy for a lot of people.

01:22:04.000 It's a coping mechanism.

01:22:06.000 It's therapy for a lot of people.

01:22:08.000 It gives you an escape.

01:22:09.000 Well, that's why she was able to accept what that guy did to her and forgive him.

01:22:13.000 Because she's past it.

01:22:16.000 She's on the other side.

01:22:17.000 She's gotten through on the other side.

01:22:18.000 And it forces you to deal with the reality of the world.

01:22:21.000 I think comics, better than most people, deal with the reality of the world.

01:22:24.000 And often it's because we went through some... 0.99

01:22:46.000 Kind of real shit. 0.99

01:22:46.000 You're like, yeah, that's what the life is. 0.99

01:22:47.000 Where's the fun?

01:22:47.000 Right.

01:22:48.000 My dad can hit me for shit. 1.00

01:22:49.000 My mom. 1.00

01:22:50.000 So when you travel, you can appreciate where you're going.

01:22:53.000 Whereas your daughter's like, again.

01:22:56.000 Here we go again.

01:22:57.000 I went to South Africa in December.

01:23:00.000 It was like the 100th year of Mandela.

01:23:02.000 It would have been his 100th birthday or something like that.

01:23:04.000 And so I took my daughter, my 10-year-old daughter.

01:23:06.000 So like a few months later, she had a project in school where she had to do a project about Nelson Mandela in South Africa.

01:23:13.000 And so she had printed this picture of the Nelson Mandela statue from Mandela Square and had it as the cover.

01:23:20.000 And I'm like, where's the picture of you next to the statue?

01:23:23.000 And she's like, I don't want to use that. 0.97

01:23:25.000 Like, what the fuck do you mean? 0.87

01:23:27.000 You don't want to use the picture of you standing next to the actual statue in Nelson Mandela Square. 0.98

01:23:33.000 That's the point of these experiences because you're able to do things like that.

01:23:37.000 I had to explain that to her.

01:23:39.000 You had to teach her how to flex? 0.99

01:23:40.000 I had to teach y'all to flirt.

01:23:41.000 She don't know how to stunt, bro. 1.00

01:23:42.000 I had to teach y'all to flirt.

01:23:43.000 Yo, you don't know how to stunt, bro.

01:23:44.000 Come on now.

01:23:45.000 I had to teach y'all to flirt.

01:23:47.000 Get them likes.

01:23:48.000 But think about how normal that moment seemed to her.

01:23:52.000 Yeah.

01:23:52.000 And she was like, I don't even need to use this as a cover for my book report.

01:23:55.000 Oh, I think she's embarrassed.

01:23:56.000 You don't think she didn't want the other kids to be like... 0.81

01:23:58.000 Oh, those kids is rich.

01:23:59.000 These kids should go to a private school in Jersey.

01:24:01.000 All these kids are doing well.

01:24:03.000 Oh, not the kids, but the parents.

01:24:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:24:06.000 All the parents are doing well.

01:24:08.000 Like...

01:24:08.000 Yeah.

01:24:08.000 Yeah, like...

01:24:10.000 Yo, you guys got some money and you got kids.

01:24:13.000 Would you guys pay to get your kid into a good school?

01:24:16.000 Oh, like that lady did? 1.00

01:24:17.000 Nah. 1.00

01:24:18.000 No fucking chance. 1.00

01:24:19.000 You gotta earn that shit. 1.00

01:24:20.000 You gotta earn that shit. 1.00

01:24:22.000 You can't do that because they're not gonna enjoy it and they're not gonna work hard. 0.99

01:24:26.000 Some of those people paid half a million dollars.

01:24:28.000 Right.

01:24:29.000 Half a million dollars.

01:24:30.000 To get a bachelor. 0.99

01:24:30.000 To get a shitty kid into some school. 0.99

01:24:34.000 That they didn't deserve. 0.97

01:24:35.000 Yeah, and the kids are not going to have no passion for what they're doing.

01:24:38.000 They're just there.

01:24:40.000 It's just like having a regular piece of paper.

01:24:42.000 I want my kids to do things that they really want to do.

01:24:45.000 That's how you change the world.

01:24:46.000 You change the world when you're doing things that you truly want to do.

01:24:50.000 What's funny, I thought, is that those kids that went to the school did fine at them.

01:24:54.000 Did they? 0.99

01:24:55.000 Yeah, so school's just a big fucking hustle. 0.99

01:24:57.000 It's like if they didn't earn it based on grades, they should fail right the fuck out of the school. 0.99

01:25:01.000 It's becoming a hustle just because of the way the world is working.

01:25:05.000 I mean, Jamie went to school for audio engineering. 0.98

01:25:07.000 Not a goddamn thing he learned in school he could use today. 0.98

01:25:10.000 Really? 0.99

01:25:11.000 Yeah, I mean, for the most part, I got to touch some stuff I could never have touched before. 1.00

01:25:15.000 Oh, pussy? 1.00

01:25:16.000 Not at audio engineering. 1.00

01:25:18.000 Not at that school. 0.99

01:25:19.000 Some dick, maybe. 1.00

01:25:20.000 Not at that school. 1.00

01:25:21.000 Yeah, no, but like...

01:25:23.000 At that time, it was like 2005 maybe.

01:25:26.000 YouTube didn't exist and there wasn't the plethora of knowledge out there that 12-year-olds are teaching you how to record audio now.

01:25:32.000 Right.

01:25:32.000 Whereas I had to learn from the guy that was recording Eminem and Jay-Z and all these guys, Dr. Dre.

01:25:36.000 Right.

01:25:37.000 They can't really do much with that job either besides teach it now either.

01:25:40.000 That's why, to go back to Joel's point when you said I'm the last in radio, the reason I'm probably the last in radio is because I'm the guy that's staring people away from radio.

01:25:49.000 When kids come up to me and they're like, y'all want to get in the radio?

01:25:51.000 I'm like, for what?

01:25:52.000 For what? 1.00

01:25:52.000 You can start a fucking podcast. 1.00

01:25:55.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

01:25:55.000 It's all types of different ways to be heard. 1.00

01:25:57.000 You can go on YouTube and if you want to be a VJ on TV, you can start doing your own video countdowns on YouTube. 0.98

01:26:02.000 Why do you need TV or radio to do any of that shit? 0.99

01:26:05.000 Middleman gone. 1.00

01:26:06.000 Yeah.

01:26:06.000 We didn't have none of that growing up.

01:26:08.000 I had to be on the radio.

01:26:09.000 You had to be on radio.

01:26:10.000 You had to be on TV. We didn't have that shit growing up. 1.00

01:26:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:26:13.000 You know, I'm even experiencing that with commentary for the UFC because I love doing commentary for the UFC, but you know what I love even better? 0.99

01:26:20.000 I do these fight companions.

01:26:21.000 Yes, when you watch it. 0.97

01:26:22.000 When we get in here, we get hammered, we start smoking weed and talking shit, and we watch the fights on the screen. 0.97

01:26:26.000 We have the best time. 0.92

01:26:27.000 It's way more fun than being there live.

01:26:30.000 Do you think that's the future of all live events, right?

01:26:33.000 So you could watch the NBA Finals, and instead of...

01:26:36.000 Listening to the guys, you know, Marv Albert or whoever do it, you could choose your guys that you watch the commentary with.

01:26:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:45.000 So Fight Companion 4, basketball, football, hockey.

01:26:47.000 Well, Dana White was doing that with Snoop Dogg. 1.00

01:26:49.000 He had the Tuesday Night Contender series, and Snoop Dogg and Uriah Faber were doing commentary. 0.99

01:26:55.000 And Snoop would just have a constant bluntlet, and he was drinking Tanqueray and getting hammered and talking crazy shit. 0.98

01:27:02.000 And that was an option for the commentary. 0.97

01:27:04.000 It should be option.

01:27:05.000 You could listen to the Snoop cast.

01:27:06.000 It should be, right?

01:27:07.000 It should be every single one.

01:27:08.000 I think Snoop got tired of doing it, though.

01:27:09.000 He just stopped doing it.

01:27:10.000 Probably got tired of being around Dana White.

01:27:12.000 I think he just got tired of having to be there every Tuesday.

01:27:17.000 That's the beautiful thing.

01:27:19.000 The NBA did this during the finals this year.

01:27:23.000 They tried an alternative stream using the ESPN app.

01:27:25.000 The thing about this is you're doing it with ESPN guys.

01:27:28.000 Correct.

01:27:29.000 What would be great is do it with...

01:27:32.000 Like the funniest commentary guys that you like in your life.

01:27:35.000 Right.

01:27:36.000 Hear them.

01:27:37.000 Just the reason why people tune in to your thing.

01:27:39.000 I guarantee they probably mute the TV. Right?

01:27:42.000 The people who are watching.

01:27:43.000 They listen to both.

01:27:44.000 I think that's what people probably do.

01:27:47.000 They never let the good commentators commentate anything.

01:27:49.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:27:50.000 Like Charles Barkley, Kenny Smith, and Shaq should be actually commentating during the NBA. And it would be incredible.

01:27:54.000 During the game.

01:27:55.000 It would be incredible. 1.00

01:27:55.000 Them talking shit to each other. 1.00

01:27:57.000 Matter of fact, put them on a little screen in the bottom so we can actually look at them visually what they're doing. 0.99

01:28:01.000 I don't know.

01:28:02.000 Well, they do that with the UFC. They have the best guys doing it.

01:28:04.000 Like Daniel Cormier does it now.

01:28:05.000 Yeah, he's great.

01:28:06.000 Dominic Cruz, Paul Felder.

01:28:08.000 They have good fighters.

01:28:10.000 Michael Bisping that do commentary now.

01:28:12.000 Cormier's the best, though.

01:28:13.000 Yeah, he's great.

01:28:14.000 He's hilarious.

01:28:15.000 Didn't he use the fight? 0.99

01:28:16.000 Fuck yeah, he's the heavyweight champion of the world. 0.99

01:28:18.000 He's the light heavyweight champion, and then he vacated his title, and now he's the heavyweight champion. 0.99

01:28:24.000 Yeah, he does commentary.

01:28:24.000 We do it all the time together.

01:28:25.000 Wow. 0.98

01:28:26.000 You guys are good together because you guys get fucking hyped. 0.98

01:28:28.000 We're also good friends. 0.98

01:28:30.000 Okay. 0.99

01:28:30.000 So we're always talking shit and we're laughing about things. 0.99

01:28:32.000 Whether it's a judge who's a nice lady but a terrible judge. 1.00

01:28:36.000 But when Rose Namajunas won the title, he starts screaming out, Thug Rose! 0.98

01:28:42.000 Thug Rose! 1.00

01:28:43.000 It's not like...

01:28:43.000 Because you guys turn into fans.

01:28:45.000 Neither one of us are real professionals, but we do it for a living, and it's weird. 0.97

01:28:50.000 That's my worst nightmare, to be out somewhere and fucking get into an argument with an MMA fighter. 0.89

01:28:55.000 You don't realize they're an MMA fighter? 0.99

01:28:58.000 Remember that Chappelle show where he got folded up when Keeping It Real Goes Wrong? 1.00

01:29:02.000 When the guy folded him up and peed on him and then went to fuck his girl? 1.00

01:29:05.000 That's why, yo, I'm telling you, you gotta check for the ears. 1.00

01:29:07.000 I forgive you, bro.

01:29:07.000 Check for the ears, man.

01:29:08.000 What are your other signs other than ears?

01:29:10.000 Ears is a good one, but the thing is, you can wear ear guards.

01:29:13.000 I don't have any cauliflower ear.

01:29:15.000 I have a little bit on this ear, but I wear ear guards.

01:29:17.000 It changes the way you hear things.

01:29:19.000 You don't want that cauliflower ear.

01:29:21.000 It's calcification.

01:29:22.000 My ears stick out already too much.

01:29:24.000 Oh, they would stick out wide.

01:29:25.000 Dude, it would be nuts.

01:29:26.000 I look like a bat. 0.83

01:29:27.000 Yeah, you'd have big old knots in your ears.

01:29:28.000 Yeah, I can't see that.

01:29:29.000 So there's no other signs of what a guy could be in MMA? No.

01:29:32.000 No.

01:29:32.000 Not really.

01:29:33.000 What about hands?

01:29:33.000 What about knuckles?

01:29:34.000 No.

01:29:34.000 I mean, you can tell and not tell.

01:29:36.000 You don't know.

01:29:37.000 See, that's why you just got to be nice to people.

01:29:39.000 Yeah, be nice.

01:29:39.000 Just be nice.

01:29:40.000 Are you going to find yourself in one of those, you got it, bro, situations? 0.98

01:29:43.000 How about fucking Andy Ruiz, the new heavyweight champion? 0.98

01:29:45.000 Viva la raza, wey! 0.99

01:29:48.000 Viva la raza, wey! 1.00

01:29:50.000 You look at his body, you would think no fucking way. 0.99

01:29:53.000 And you look at Anthony Joshua sculpted out of marble. 1.00

01:29:56.000 Ben thought he was trash, bro. 0.98

01:29:58.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:29:58.000 Ben saying it. 0.99

01:29:59.000 Ben saying it.

01:29:59.000 We've been saying Anthony Joshua was not that guy.

01:30:02.000 He never had it.

01:30:04.000 He is literally Ivan Drago.

01:30:07.000 Literally.

01:30:07.000 He's the UK Ivan Drago.

01:30:10.000 He looks the part.

01:30:11.000 Ladies love him. 1.00

01:30:12.000 He never had that skill in the ring.

01:30:14.000 I told him that when he came on Breakfast Club.

01:30:16.000 I don't think that's true.

01:30:17.000 He got dropped by Klitschko when he came back to knock him out.

01:30:20.000 Klitschko was 73 years old! 0.89

01:30:21.000 Klitschko was an old-ass man, dude. 0.67

01:30:22.000 And he's Ukrainian. 1.00

01:30:23.000 He's got Chernobyl in him and shit. 1.00

01:30:25.000 He was 73! 1.00

01:30:26.000 Nah, dude. 1.00

01:30:27.000 That's nuclear poisoning and shit. 1.00

01:30:28.000 He was very old. 1.00

01:30:29.000 He was trying to win an election for this crazy country.

01:30:32.000 He's got a lot of things going on in his life.

01:30:34.000 The real fight is Deontay Wilder, Tyson Fury 2. How about this?

01:30:38.000 Tyson Fury, closest thing we've had in the heavyweight division to Ali.

01:30:42.000 I'm not going to say Ali.

01:30:43.000 I said after that, I said a couple fights ago.

01:30:45.000 I think he is.

01:30:46.000 The head movement, the foot movement, at his size and weight.

01:30:49.000 Ali was doing that at 212 pounds. 0.81

01:30:50.000 His head movement last fight was very Ali-like.

01:30:53.000 Amazing.

01:30:54.000 Unreal, but at his size.

01:30:56.000 But Ali did that with George Foreman.

01:30:58.000 You see, there's a difference.

01:30:59.000 The guy that he was fighting, like that guy was...

01:31:01.000 But he did it with Deontay.

01:31:03.000 And Deontay is.

01:31:03.000 Yeah, he did it, but he also got dropped and almost murdered.

01:31:07.000 I thought he died.

01:31:08.000 Every time I look at him.

01:31:09.000 That 12th round when Deontay connected and then walked back and went like this.

01:31:12.000 Like that, game over.

01:31:13.000 And the fact that he just rose up and then outboxed him for the rest of the round.

01:31:17.000 That's all those years of therapy.

01:31:19.000 That's all those years of therapy and meditation.

01:31:21.000 When Deontay hit him and knocked him out, he was in that place of stillness.

01:31:23.000 Boom.

01:31:24.000 He knows how to come up from that place to steal.

01:31:26.000 Absolutely.

01:31:27.000 That's what that was.

01:31:28.000 KOs are weird, man.

01:31:29.000 It's like sometimes a punch does not look like much and it drops you and puts you away. 0.95

01:31:34.000 And sometimes you get fucking flatlined like right there. 0.90

01:31:37.000 And it looks like you're over. 0.98

01:31:39.000 Watch this.

01:31:39.000 I mean, I was amazed that the ref even gave him a count.

01:31:42.000 I thought it was going to call him out.

01:31:43.000 I thought the ref was going to wave their hands. 1.00

01:31:46.000 Meanwhile, this motherfucker rises up and doesn't even look wobbly. 1.00

01:31:49.000 Unbelievable. 0.99

01:31:49.000 By the way, Anthony Joshua can't beat Tyson Fury. 0.99

01:31:51.000 He can't beat Deontay Wilder.

01:31:53.000 No.

01:31:53.000 He can't beat Luis Ortiz.

01:31:55.000 Well, I don't...

01:31:56.000 Luis is old, too.

01:31:57.000 Luis is a good 90 years old.

01:31:58.000 Here's the thing.

01:31:58.000 The word is, and I get this from a reliable source, is inside the fight community that Anthony Joshua got dropped in training camp right before the fight.

01:32:07.000 Bad.

01:32:08.000 By a guy from Philly, right?

01:32:09.000 I don't know who did it.

01:32:10.000 Yeah, I heard that.

01:32:25.000 I was told he had a panic attack.

01:32:27.000 I was told he had a panic attack before the fight.

01:32:30.000 And if you remember, it took him a while to come to the ring.

01:32:33.000 They even played ring music and everything, but he never came out.

01:32:36.000 And I was told that if you noticed when he was walking out, they was rubbing his back and they were rubbing his head.

01:32:40.000 I heard he had a panic attack. 0.99

01:32:43.000 If you've been KO'd, like, within a week, it takes months to get your shit back together again. 0.99

01:32:48.000 The whole world is, like, shaky to you. 1.00

01:32:50.000 Your equilibrium's off.

01:32:52.000 So he was in there, and then when he dropped him, he's like, Jesus Christ, can we go again? 1.00

01:32:56.000 No, when he dropped Ruiz, he's like, good, let's get this motherfucker out of here. 0.99

01:33:01.000 And then he went right at him, and then, boom, he got clipped, and then it was over. 0.97

01:33:05.000 There's a, there was a, the biggest, what is it, the biggest upset in heavyweight history is Tyson versus Douglas, right?

01:33:11.000 Guess who got dropped in training camp?

01:33:14.000 Tyson did?

01:33:15.000 Did he?

01:33:16.000 Yeah.

01:33:16.000 Got dropped in training camp.

01:33:17.000 I forget the guy's name who dropped him, but his sparring partner dropped him in training camp.

01:33:21.000 There's video of it.

01:33:22.000 There's video of it.

01:33:22.000 He didn't KO him.

01:33:23.000 He took a knee.

01:33:23.000 But still, it's like, you got dropped.

01:33:26.000 Your body shut down for a second. 1.00

01:33:27.000 And it takes time to recover from that shit. 1.00

01:33:29.000 And not to mention, the night before, you was fucking a bunch of Japanese women with Bobby Brown in a hotel room and doing drugs. 1.00

01:33:34.000 By the fives. 0.99

01:33:35.000 Yeah, I'm saying.

01:33:36.000 Five at a time.

01:33:36.000 That'll take a toll out of you.

01:33:38.000 Yes, it does.

01:33:39.000 That'll take a toll.

01:33:40.000 If you read Bobby's book, Bobby said, Mike told him, I'll be right back.

01:33:43.000 Bobby was like, don't you got to fight tonight?

01:33:44.000 He was like, yeah, yeah, I'll be right back.

01:33:45.000 I'm going to knock this guy and I'll be right back.

01:33:48.000 And he still got up, but he still dropped Buster Douglas.

01:33:51.000 That's even crazier.

01:33:52.000 Did you ever watch the 30 for 30?

01:33:54.000 No.

01:33:55.000 About Buster Douglas?

01:33:56.000 No.

01:33:56.000 They had the 30 for 30. I didn't realize how much he dominated Mike Tyson during that fight.

01:34:02.000 Oh, yeah.

01:34:03.000 It went round for round.

01:34:05.000 He was punishing Mike Tyson.

01:34:07.000 I don't remember that when I was young.

01:34:08.000 Buster Douglas is like one of the most talented guys that just didn't have the kind of drive and discipline that you needed to be a champion.

01:34:16.000 But when his mom died...

01:34:17.000 Mom or dad?

01:34:18.000 His mom.

01:34:18.000 It was mom, yeah.

01:34:19.000 That's what gave him all the drive.

01:34:20.000 Dude, he was hooking off the jab on Tyson.

01:34:22.000 Pop! 0.87

01:34:23.000 Whap! 0.99

01:34:23.000 Like in a beautiful way. 0.99

01:34:25.000 His skill was incredible.

01:34:26.000 And wasn't afraid.

01:34:27.000 He was a world beater.

01:34:28.000 Yeah.

01:34:28.000 He was a world beater in that fight.

01:34:30.000 He needed the motivation.

01:34:31.000 No. 0.98

01:34:31.000 Holyfield fucked him up after that and he was basically done. 0.98

01:34:35.000 No, he was done. 0.99

01:34:36.000 But he's infamous.

01:34:38.000 Infamous, for sure.

01:34:39.000 He beat Mike Tyson when it meant something to beat Mike.

01:34:42.000 I found out about it after the fact.

01:34:44.000 I didn't watch the fight live.

01:34:45.000 I had a gig that night.

01:34:46.000 Oh, and I saw it in real time.

01:34:47.000 And then I watched it later, and I still was waiting for Tyson to get up and beat him.

01:34:51.000 I didn't believe it.

01:34:51.000 You didn't believe it.

01:34:52.000 I didn't believe it.

01:34:53.000 I remember watching that fight, and in my mind, I guess I wasn't really paying attention.

01:34:57.000 I was just like, this is longer than most Tyson fights.

01:35:00.000 I'm like, why is this going on so long?

01:35:02.000 You can have a dinner reservation on a Tyson night. 0.98

01:35:04.000 I'm like, and then when he finally got knocked out, I'm like, oh shit, Mike just lost. 0.99

01:35:08.000 Because you got to think, not only did we grow up watching Mike fuck people up, we grew up trying to beat him on Mike Tyson punch. 1.00

01:35:13.000 That shit was impossible. 1.00

01:35:17.000 So it's just like, that was an unbelievable moment. 1.00

01:35:19.000 I didn't feel like that with Ruiz and Joshua though.

01:35:21.000 Well, there's certain times when people lose and you can't believe they lost.

01:35:24.000 Like, for me, it was Roy Jones when Tarvin knocked him out.

01:35:27.000 Dude.

01:35:27.000 I was just like, what?

01:35:29.000 Un-fucking- Roy Jones, he stopped? 0.98

01:35:31.000 To this day, man. 0.98

01:35:33.000 Unreal.

01:35:33.000 If you watch in the second round, it's a really interesting thing that happens.

01:35:36.000 They both throw hooks.

01:35:39.000 And Tarver's just gets there.

01:35:41.000 Yeah.

01:35:42.000 And, well, Tarver's actually a southpaw, right?

01:35:44.000 So I think it's his.

01:35:45.000 It's kind of like a looping left.

01:35:46.000 But they exchange.

01:35:47.000 And Tarver just hits first.

01:35:49.000 Roy timed it.

01:35:50.000 And this is what happens.

01:35:50.000 I think when fighters get a little bit older, they lose a fraction of a second.

01:35:54.000 And that fraction of a second earlier in Roy's career, he's checking them, and then he's moving out of the way.

01:35:59.000 Well, I think the real...

01:36:00.000 There it is right there.

01:36:01.000 Watch, watch the exchange.

01:36:02.000 Do you see it?

01:36:03.000 Yeah.

01:36:03.000 Look at them exchange.

01:36:04.000 Ready?

01:36:04.000 It's...

01:36:05.000 And...

01:36:06.000 Yeah, boom.

01:36:07.000 At one point it changes everything.

01:36:08.000 Everything.

01:36:09.000 Well, you know what Tarver's coach said?

01:36:10.000 That Tarver beat him in basketball.

01:36:13.000 Yes!

01:36:13.000 And then when he saw that he beat him in basketball, he was a better athlete.

01:36:17.000 Who was his coach?

01:36:18.000 McGirt?

01:36:19.000 Is it Buddy?

01:36:19.000 I think it's Buddy McGirt.

01:36:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:36:20.000 I think...

01:36:22.000 Fine if that's true.

01:36:22.000 Dude, we had Roy on Flayer 2, and I asked him, I was like, were you ever worried about getting knocked out and losing something, leaving something in the ring?

01:36:31.000 And he takes a second and he goes, I'll be honest with you, man, I didn't come in the ring with much sense to begin with, so I wasn't really worried about losing it.

01:36:39.000 Ha! 0.89

01:36:40.000 Straight up, dude.

01:36:42.000 Straight up.

01:36:42.000 Roy still got a crazy competitive nature, too.

01:36:45.000 Roy, was it last year?

01:36:47.000 Last year, Roy was hitting me because he really wanted to fight Michael B. Jordan.

01:36:50.000 How about Michael B. Jordan say that he thinks he can kill us?

01:36:54.000 We were talking about it on the podcast, like, no!

01:36:58.000 Get out of there! 0.65

01:36:59.000 Roy was like, no, I really want to fight him.

01:37:01.000 Roy was like, y'all got the sponsors that can put the money up.

01:37:03.000 I think it was like $30 million.

01:37:04.000 And I made the call for him.

01:37:07.000 And Michael was like, nah.

01:37:09.000 He was like, nah, we good on that. 0.99

01:37:11.000 Like, yo, Roy would fuck Michael B. Jordan though. 0.99

01:37:14.000 Don't let Creed fool you. 1.00

01:37:15.000 Don't let fucking Killmonger and Black Panther fool you. 0.99

01:37:18.000 You still run up on one of them old boxes right now. 1.00

01:37:20.000 Muscle memory will get you knocked the fuck out. 0.97

01:37:22.000 It wouldn't even be close. 0.99

01:37:23.000 It would be horrific.

01:37:24.000 And isn't that what happens?

01:37:25.000 It's like, some guys start, they start fight fighting or they start doing MMA. They start doing a little Brazilian jiu-jitsu or some shit like that, right?

01:37:31.000 And they put a couple chokes in, in like a safe, controlled environment. 0.90

01:37:34.000 And you get that, like, delusional confidence.

01:37:38.000 And that's why sparring is so important.

01:37:40.000 Do you remember the first time you guys sparred?

01:37:42.000 Sure.

01:37:43.000 I mean, not the first time.

01:37:44.000 I can't remember the last time.

01:37:44.000 Well, you were doing it since you were a kid, right?

01:37:46.000 Yeah.

01:37:46.000 Okay.

01:37:46.000 I mean, the first time I sparred, before I went in the ring, I was like, oh, I got this.

01:37:50.000 It's just combos, whatever. 0.96

01:37:51.000 I was fucking frightened. 0.99

01:37:53.000 Dude, frightened. 0.99

01:37:54.000 When the punches were coming back.

01:37:56.000 Yeah.

01:37:56.000 I was just a shell.

01:37:56.000 I just stopped.

01:37:57.000 Yeah, I haven't sparred since the last time I sparred.

01:37:59.000 I sparred with Sean Porter.

01:38:01.000 Really?

01:38:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:38:02.000 This was nuts.

01:38:03.000 And he was actually throwing punches.

01:38:04.000 Yeah, because I was mad. 0.99

01:38:05.000 But this shit don't mean nothing. 0.99

01:38:06.000 He was dodging them every single one of them. 1.00

01:38:08.000 I'm surprised he didn't knock your ass out, bro. 0.99

01:38:11.000 And this is one of the... 0.99

01:38:12.000 This guy's head movement is impeccable, man.

01:38:15.000 I mean, people have tried to attack him on the street and they miss every single time. 0.97

01:38:19.000 Joe, Joe, Joe, it's un-fucking-real, dude. 0.95

01:38:22.000 What is this? 0.95

01:38:22.000 What do you got here? 0.95

01:38:23.000 Here it is!

01:38:23.000 Is this you guys sparring?

01:38:24.000 Oh, yeah, that is us sparring.

01:38:25.000 Look at him going forward.

01:38:27.000 This is a PR move.

01:38:29.000 That's not a PR move.

01:38:30.000 I'm trying to get some sweating.

01:38:34.000 I'm trying to get some sweating.

01:38:35.000 Look at you.

01:38:36.000 Nah, you know why? 1.00

01:38:37.000 Because that shit is in Brooklyn and you got to be focused because there's people yelling in there, Yo, Charlamagne got on makeup! 0.99

01:38:47.000 Can I get a drop from the audience? 1.00

01:38:49.000 You left-handed?

01:38:50.000 No, I'm right-handed.

01:38:51.000 I was just trying to throw him off a little bit.

01:38:52.000 Really?

01:38:53.000 Yeah.

01:38:53.000 You did it on purpose?

01:38:56.000 Man, he don't know what he's doing. 0.99

01:38:57.000 I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. 0.99

01:38:59.000 I'm all sluggish. 0.98

01:39:00.000 I'm not even bouncing.

01:39:01.000 Where is mine?

01:39:02.000 No feet movement.

01:39:03.000 Do you train in boxing?

01:39:04.000 Or were you just doing this for a goof?

01:39:05.000 Nah, I just wanted to go in there. 1.00

01:39:07.000 I was like, fuck it. 1.00

01:39:08.000 That's Sean Porter. 1.00

01:39:09.000 I'm a boxing fan.

01:39:10.000 I'm like, what the worst can happen? 0.98

01:39:11.000 You get knocked the fuck out? 0.97

01:39:12.000 Yeah, the worst can happen is he's mean. 0.99

01:39:13.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:39:15.000 That could be terrible.

01:39:16.000 He's being super nice to you.

01:39:17.000 I'm just in there flat-footed.

01:39:17.000 Yeah, we not even really.

01:39:18.000 And we went three rounds.

01:39:21.000 Wow.

01:39:22.000 And I was about to die at the end of those three rounds.

01:39:23.000 Did he touch you at all?

01:39:24.000 Bold thing.

01:39:25.000 Yes.

01:39:25.000 A few times.

01:39:27.000 That's why I haven't sparred since. 1.00

01:39:29.000 It's like staying in my fucking lane. 0.99

01:39:31.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:39:31.000 I hit the punching bag. 1.00

01:39:32.000 Callan spars all the time. 0.86

01:39:33.000 Does he?

01:39:34.000 Bro, what are you doing?

01:39:35.000 Yeah, Brian Callan.

01:39:36.000 No, no, no.

01:39:36.000 Brian Callan.

01:39:37.000 DJ Callan.

01:39:38.000 If there's one person that's not doing any cardio, it's DJ Callan.

01:39:42.000 Did you see the meme of after Ruiz won, Callan getting out of a car with his gut hanging out.

01:39:47.000 It's like all the big guys the day after Andy Ruiz wins the title. 0.98

01:39:51.000 Cali been working out on Snapchat for a whole year and didn't lose a motherfucking pound. 0.92

01:39:55.000 And got a Weight Watchers deal. 0.98

01:39:57.000 God bless America.

01:39:58.000 Did he really?

01:39:58.000 He got a deal?

01:39:59.000 He got a Weight Watchers deal.

01:40:00.000 I mean, we are just watching his weight.

01:40:02.000 There's plus size models, right?

01:40:04.000 They're doing that now.

01:40:04.000 Like Nike and their Nike store has like a big mannequin, like a fat mannequin.

01:40:08.000 But they don't have plus size models for men, Joe. 0.92

01:40:11.000 There is nothing that enrages me more than fat models. 1.00

01:40:15.000 There is nothing that enrages me more than fat fucking model. 1.00

01:40:19.000 Okay, let me just say something. 1.00

01:40:20.000 As a comic, we want attention.

01:40:23.000 We don't feel like we deserve it.

01:40:25.000 So we make you laugh so there's an even exchange.

01:40:28.000 I get my attention, you get some joy.

01:40:30.000 Okay?

01:40:31.000 An actor, they want attention.

01:40:33.000 They're not willing to write the script, but they'll memorize some lines.

01:40:35.000 They'll do a little bit of effort to get the attention. 0.99

01:40:38.000 A regular model, at least she's willing to lose weight so that she can be looked at. 1.00

01:40:42.000 But these fat bitches are just like, Look at me! 1.00

01:40:45.000 I deserve to be looked at! 1.00

01:40:47.000 Stop using the word bitches in 2019. Look at that. 1.00

01:40:49.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:40:51.000 That's the plus size model mannequin. 1.00

01:40:54.000 That doesn't enrage you guys?

01:40:57.000 That's the only thing I don't like about that.

01:40:58.000 That doesn't enrage you that they're like, just stare at me.

01:41:01.000 I'm going to eat bread all day.

01:41:03.000 No!

01:41:03.000 But you should stare at me.

01:41:05.000 The only thing that bothers me about that is that's out of context.

01:41:07.000 Because that's an oversized mannequin in workout clothes.

01:41:10.000 Is she going to lose the weight? 1.00

01:41:12.000 Yeah, she's trying to lose weight. 1.00

01:41:13.000 She's trying to better herself. 0.61

01:41:15.000 Okay, so I need it in some context.

01:41:16.000 If this is workout gear for overweight women who want to go lose weight, cool. 1.00

01:41:20.000 Other than that, why are you wearing workout gear?

01:41:22.000 Because she's trying to lose weight. 1.00

01:41:24.000 That's the only reason you'd be wearing that.

01:41:25.000 She'd be even bigger if she didn't work out. 1.00

01:41:28.000 Like Khaled.

01:41:29.000 Imagine if Khaled didn't.

01:41:31.000 DJ Khaled needs to eat a salad!

01:41:34.000 Is that what you're saying?

01:41:39.000 You gotta have a DJ Khaled level of annoyance to succeed in life, though.

01:41:43.000 Do you?

01:41:44.000 Yes, you do.

01:41:45.000 Oh my God.

01:41:46.000 You do, you do, you do, you do.

01:41:47.000 It's so much.

01:41:49.000 It's so much. 1.00

01:41:51.000 Button your fucking shirt. 1.00

01:41:53.000 There's no way you didn't know you could button your shirt. 1.00

01:41:56.000 He's the epitome of not being afraid to ask for things.

01:42:00.000 He looks like French toast.

01:42:02.000 Jesus Christ.

01:42:03.000 Every time I look at him, it's French toast.

01:42:06.000 And he has no...

01:42:07.000 Look at this!

01:42:09.000 Where's the butter and the maple syrup?

01:42:11.000 Says he lost 15 kilograms.

01:42:13.000 What is that, 34 pounds?

01:42:14.000 Yeah.

01:42:16.000 There you go.

01:42:16.000 Lost 34 pounds.

01:42:17.000 Listen, congratulations. 1.00

01:42:18.000 He can see his dick now. 1.00

01:42:19.000 Congratulations to him. 1.00

01:42:20.000 He looks a little slimmer on the right.

01:42:21.000 He does look a little slimmer.

01:42:22.000 Oh, okay.

01:42:23.000 Maybe it's a little better.

01:42:23.000 My only...

01:42:24.000 Jesus Christ.

01:42:26.000 Is that real?

01:42:26.000 I don't even know what that is.

01:42:27.000 Weight Watchers.

01:42:28.000 I respect...

01:42:29.000 Callie came from radio.

01:42:30.000 Oh, did he?

01:42:31.000 Khaled came from radio. 0.89

01:42:32.000 Khaled used to do 12 midnight to 2 a.m.

01:42:34.000 on weekends at WEDR in Miami, if I'm not mistaken.

01:42:38.000 He used to do Friday and Saturday night.

01:42:40.000 And that was like 15 years ago.

01:42:42.000 So radio is a lot like comedy in a way, right?

01:42:45.000 There's sort of a fellowship.

01:42:48.000 Of radio people?

01:42:50.000 Respect people who did it?

01:42:52.000 Yeah, it's so few and far between that actually, I guess, make it, so to speak, that you know who those players are.

01:43:00.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:43:01.000 So, yeah, in a way.

01:43:03.000 Yeah, and there's so few, like, national ones.

01:43:06.000 Like...

01:43:07.000 Who's the nationally known radio guys?

01:43:10.000 Elvis Duran.

01:43:11.000 There's maybe a dozen.

01:43:13.000 You, Elvis, Bobby, Tom Joyner.

01:43:16.000 Tom's retiring this year.

01:43:18.000 What about Steve?

01:43:19.000 Is Steve national?

01:43:20.000 Steve's national.

01:43:21.000 See, I respect Steve and I respect Ryan Seacrest, but I don't really count those guys because they didn't start in radio.

01:43:26.000 Ryan Seacrest didn't start in radio?

01:43:29.000 Wasn't he always a radio guy?

01:43:31.000 I have no clue.

01:43:32.000 He was a radio guy.

01:43:33.000 I did his radio show in the 90s.

01:43:35.000 I didn't even know he did radio.

01:43:37.000 He still does radio.

01:43:39.000 He does radio.

01:43:39.000 That guy has like five jobs right now.

01:43:41.000 The guy from American Idol does radio every day.

01:43:45.000 Does it in the morning.

01:43:46.000 And he does that secretary radio.

01:43:49.000 What is that?

01:43:50.000 Like, hey, Dolores, you're the one who won.

01:43:52.000 Come on in and get your thing. 1.00

01:43:53.000 Like, that kind of shit. 1.00

01:43:54.000 By the way, Ryan is never off. 1.00

01:43:56.000 No.

01:43:57.000 Like, we work for the same company.

01:43:57.000 We work for iHeart.

01:43:58.000 I've seen Ryan walk out the bathroom like he's walking on stage to introduce the next guest on American Idol.

01:44:04.000 Like, he's always on.

01:44:06.000 Yo, that was a perfect example where, like, your gay rumors trumped your Me Too rumors. 0.66

01:44:10.000 What happened?

01:44:11.000 Remember when he caught the Me Too and, like, a girl said that he Me Too'd or whatever?

01:44:15.000 It was like a girl he worked with, right?

01:44:16.000 Something like that. 0.58

01:44:17.000 And then everybody was like, the gay guy? 0.86

01:44:18.000 Yeah.

01:44:20.000 I don't think Ryan's gay though.

01:44:21.000 Okay, sure.

01:44:22.000 I don't think Ryan's gay.

01:44:24.000 Okay, what is he?

01:44:26.000 What do you call it?

01:44:27.000 I think it's about right.

01:44:28.000 Ryan is one of those people.

01:44:29.000 He's too handsome. 1.00

01:44:30.000 He is a handsome, those fucking teeth. 1.00

01:44:32.000 But you don't think about sex with him. 1.00

01:44:34.000 So what is he?

01:44:35.000 What's the letter?

01:44:36.000 What, asexual? 0.57

01:44:38.000 Osexual?

01:44:39.000 It's an O. He's O positive.

01:44:41.000 He's O positive.

01:44:43.000 He's O positive.

01:44:44.000 L-P-G-T-A-O plus. 1.00

01:44:46.000 He's O. He's like, oh, you don't fuck dudes or chicks. 1.00

01:44:48.000 Okay, I see what it is. 1.00

01:44:51.000 He's always on.

01:44:52.000 Can you imagine him choking a girl?

01:44:54.000 No.

01:44:55.000 No.

01:44:55.000 Absolutely not.

01:44:56.000 I can imagine him. 0.97

01:44:57.000 She's beating him to death.

01:45:00.000 By the way, Ryan is one of those people that when you hear something about him, you'd be like, nah, not Ryan.

01:45:09.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:45:09.000 He has that kind of personality, which actually works in a lot of people's favor.

01:45:13.000 Yeah, well, it's great for top 40 radio.

01:45:15.000 It's great for secretaries that call in.

01:45:17.000 Yes.

01:45:18.000 You're the seventh caller!

01:45:19.000 Congratulations!

01:45:21.000 What'd you think about the finals of Game of Thrones?

01:45:23.000 Did it disappoint you?

01:45:24.000 No. 0.99

01:45:28.000 It's that kind of weird, homogenized shit that some people thrive in that frequency. 0.99

01:45:37.000 He is so good at being authentic in the most inauthentic situations. 0.97

01:45:43.000 Explain. 0.96

01:45:45.000 Hosting a show is why American Got Talent, all that kind of stuff, where you've got to be really excited about somebody juggling dildos or some shit. 0.95

01:45:52.000 That's really inauthentic. 0.91

01:45:54.000 But he kind of comes across...

01:45:56.000 As believable, like sincere.

01:45:58.000 Yeah.

01:45:58.000 Or does it matter?

01:46:00.000 Meaning, like, does his reactions in those moments matter? 1.00

01:46:03.000 I just look at those fucking teeth. 0.99

01:46:04.000 If somebody wins, I don't know, and he's like, hey! 1.00

01:46:06.000 Does anybody care?

01:46:07.000 No one cares.

01:46:07.000 It's those teeth, man.

01:46:09.000 That's a pretty man.

01:46:10.000 Listen, he's America's host.

01:46:11.000 He is.

01:46:12.000 He's America's host, man. 1.00

01:46:13.000 He could host some dick. 1.00

01:46:14.000 In that song. 1.00

01:46:16.000 Jesus Christ.

01:46:16.000 That's for sure.

01:46:17.000 But in that world.

01:46:18.000 Say what? 0.92

01:46:19.000 Dick put him on. 0.96

01:46:20.000 Dick who?

01:46:20.000 Clark.

01:46:23.000 It's true.

01:46:24.000 It's a fact.

01:46:25.000 Doesn't he do the New Year's countdown now, too?

01:46:27.000 He does.

01:46:28.000 God, he took a lot of jobs.

01:46:29.000 Man, listen, they was propping Dick's corpse up for like 10 years before they finally said, Ryan, just do it yourself.

01:46:35.000 Right, when he had a stroke and he would still do it?

01:46:37.000 No, I think Dick been dead, bro.

01:46:38.000 Wait, he had a stroke?

01:46:40.000 And he was doing it out the side of his mouth, like two-faced?

01:46:42.000 Well, he was struggling.

01:46:43.000 He was definitely struggling to talk. 1.00

01:46:44.000 That shit was so sad. 1.00

01:46:47.000 And it went from, he would do it, but then they would pop in on him in some studio, and he'd be sitting there struggling and talking. 1.00

01:46:53.000 I'm like, why do they keep Will and Dick Clark out for New Year's Eve?

01:46:58.000 Like, you're actually depressing people before the ball drops.

01:47:00.000 Yeah.

01:47:02.000 And then they had Kathy Griffin and Anderson Cooper.

01:47:05.000 That was a great combination.

01:47:07.000 She annoys me, man. 0.50

01:47:08.000 No, man. 1.00

01:47:08.000 Kathy is the shit. 1.00

01:47:09.000 It's a fucking lot. 1.00

01:47:10.000 Shut up. 1.00

01:47:12.000 I love Kathy Griffin. 1.00

01:47:13.000 No, dude.

01:47:14.000 She enrages me. 0.99

01:47:14.000 Just like the fat models. 0.99

01:47:15.000 You know why I like Kathy? 1.00

01:47:16.000 Because Kathy don't give a shit. 1.00

01:47:17.000 I like Kathy for the same reason I used to like Joan Rivers. 0.99

01:47:20.000 I mean, I say used to because she's dead.

01:47:21.000 But I still love Joan.

01:47:22.000 Joan's a legend. 0.99

01:47:23.000 But they both didn't give a shit. 0.99

01:47:25.000 They were cut from the same cloth. 0.99

01:47:27.000 I don't know if they're cut from the same cloth.

01:47:29.000 I think so, man.

01:47:30.000 I think so.

01:47:30.000 I used to love Anderson and Kathy Griffin together.

01:47:34.000 You never heard anybody say that?

01:47:39.000 It's always like someone's mom.

01:47:41.000 That's your guilty pleasure?

01:47:43.000 Look at that chemistry.

01:47:46.000 We had Cathy on Breakfast Club. 0.63

01:47:48.000 After she cut Trump's head off? 1.00

01:47:49.000 After she cut Trump's fucking head off. 1.00

01:47:51.000 That was a strange thing. 1.00

01:47:53.000 What was strange about it is the fact that she didn't think she was going to suffer any consequences from that.

01:47:58.000 I think people forget that Donald Trump Even though he is the ex-executive producer of Celebrity Apprentice and he was a reality star, he's the president of the United States of America.

01:48:08.000 It's rules about threatening heads of state.

01:48:13.000 You just can't do things like that. 0.99

01:48:16.000 It's almost like if fucking Flavor Flav became president. 0.98

01:48:19.000 It would be hard for you to look at him as anything other than Flavor Flav. 1.00

01:48:23.000 But you better respect his position before those goddamn men in suits come knock on your fucking door. 1.00

01:48:27.000 If Flavor becomes president. 1.00

01:48:29.000 Well, Donald's the first guy who was famous, like, other than Ronald Reagan, I guess.

01:48:33.000 Ronald Reagan was famous as an actor, apparently.

01:48:36.000 Was he famous-famous?

01:48:37.000 I don't know.

01:48:38.000 I don't think he was famous-famous.

01:48:39.000 He was in movies.

01:48:39.000 I didn't even know he was an actor.

01:48:40.000 I had no clue.

01:48:41.000 He was in big movies, and then became the governor of California, you know.

01:48:46.000 It's a weird one, right?

01:48:48.000 I mean, just having a famous person in a popularity contest is strange.

01:48:52.000 Yes.

01:48:52.000 Because you've got a built-in advantage.

01:48:54.000 Yes.

01:48:55.000 And it is a popularity contest.

01:48:57.000 You do realize that's how all of them are going to be moving forward.

01:48:59.000 Well, some people might say Obama was the first celebrity president.

01:49:02.000 He became a celebrity, though.

01:49:03.000 Ah, you don't think he was one before going into it?

01:49:06.000 No, absolutely not.

01:49:06.000 I think there was something like that.

01:49:08.000 Not Trump.

01:49:08.000 Nah.

01:49:09.000 Not Trump is on a different level.

01:49:10.000 Yeah.

01:49:10.000 Trump had Domino's commercials, bro.

01:49:12.000 Yes.

01:49:13.000 Trump had rap songs named after him.

01:49:15.000 He had an airline.

01:49:16.000 He was.

01:49:17.000 Yeah, he had an airline. 1.00

01:49:18.000 He had a fucking hotel. 0.99

01:49:19.000 His name is on buildings all across the world. 1.00

01:49:22.000 Giant, giant Trump letters.

01:49:24.000 He was a brand.

01:49:25.000 Trump was the first brand to run for president.

01:49:29.000 Reagan might have been the first star.

01:49:30.000 Trump was the first brand.

01:49:32.000 But he was definitely a bigger star than Reagan, I think.

01:49:34.000 Easily.

01:49:34.000 Reagan is before our time.

01:49:35.000 It's hard to understand what it was like when he was a movie star.

01:49:38.000 Yeah.

01:49:38.000 I don't know.

01:49:39.000 Let's call Betty White now, how big Reagan was. 1.00

01:49:41.000 Is Betty still alive?

01:49:42.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:49:43.000 Still kicking.

01:49:44.000 Do you have these people's numbers, Joe?

01:49:47.000 No, I don't have her number.

01:49:49.000 Okay.

01:49:49.000 I haven't seen Betty in a while.

01:49:50.000 It's not like you become famous, you get on a Rolodex.

01:49:53.000 Here's a list of all these famous people.

01:49:55.000 Here's Keanu Reeves.

01:49:56.000 Here's Betty White. 1.00

01:49:57.000 I do have some famous people where I text them and I call them and I'm just like, this is so strange.

01:50:00.000 Who's the weirdest?

01:50:01.000 I always feel like that.

01:50:03.000 Steven Tyler's a weird one from Aerosmith.

01:50:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:50:06.000 We text each other and I'm like, all right.

01:50:08.000 That's the most surreal feeling ever.

01:50:10.000 It's strange.

01:50:10.000 It's wild.

01:50:11.000 It's weird.

01:50:11.000 I never get used to that.

01:50:12.000 No.

01:50:13.000 It's humbling though.

01:50:13.000 Yeah.

01:50:14.000 But that's why I always say I don't do shit. 0.99

01:50:18.000 You talk. 0.99

01:50:19.000 That's it.

01:50:19.000 I know people that have real talent.

01:50:21.000 Right.

01:50:22.000 People that I actually looked up to growing up that inspired me.

01:50:25.000 But I think that's what people like about you is that you recognize that in yourself.

01:50:28.000 Yeah.

01:50:28.000 You know?

01:50:29.000 You're not oblivious to that.

01:50:32.000 You're not delusional.

01:50:33.000 I mean, I kind of wanted the room to be like, well, no, you are talented.

01:50:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:50:36.000 I'm just like, fuck me. 1.00

01:50:37.000 You must have something. 1.00

01:50:40.000 Yo, you know what? 1.00

01:50:41.000 You are fucking normal. 0.99

01:50:43.000 Now that I think about it, you're a regular guy. 1.00

01:50:47.000 I'll just double down on you. 0.99

01:50:48.000 Yeah, you know, it's good that you recognize that you are fucking normal. 0.98

01:50:53.000 Let's change your name up a little bit. 0.98

01:50:55.000 But humanity like that, in that regard, that's important for people listening to me.

01:51:00.000 They want to know that you know.

01:51:02.000 You know, that you can't play a musical instrument, sing, or Do something crazy.

01:51:06.000 Well, don't they want to feel reflected?

01:51:08.000 Often at times, I think that your audience resonates to you like that.

01:51:12.000 It's like you are asking a lot of times the questions that they would love to ask these people.

01:51:16.000 Yeah, when I listen to you, I hear somebody who's still a fan.

01:51:19.000 And that's how I feel.

01:51:20.000 I'm still a fan.

01:51:21.000 I'm curious.

01:51:22.000 I have a curiosity about things.

01:51:25.000 And I'm not afraid to... 0.99

01:51:26.000 I don't know shit. 0.99

01:51:28.000 I just got some experiences. 0.96

01:51:30.000 I'm not an expert at nothing.

01:51:32.000 Everybody that I sit across from is way smarter than me.

01:51:34.000 Yeah.

01:51:35.000 And I'm fine with that.

01:51:36.000 Let's have a conversation.

01:51:37.000 I want to learn.

01:51:38.000 That's good.

01:51:38.000 That's it.

01:51:39.000 That's probably why you're successful.

01:51:41.000 It's the way the thing works.

01:51:42.000 People will be like, oh, I can't believe you would say, you would ask Elizabeth Warren about her Native American ancestry.

01:51:47.000 That was hilarious.

01:51:48.000 Did you see that?

01:51:49.000 When you call her the original Rachel Dolezal.

01:51:51.000 Bro.

01:51:52.000 And Rachel's bi now, too. 0.94

01:51:54.000 But did you see the interview with him and Elizabeth Warren?

01:51:56.000 Yes, I did. 1.00

01:51:57.000 Where he calls her out on the Native American shit? 1.00

01:51:58.000 But, you know, here's the weird thing about her. 0.99

01:52:00.000 It's like, I don't necessarily think she told the truth in that interview.

01:52:03.000 And I don't know how she'd get away with it.

01:52:05.000 When she said that the Boston Globe did an investigation, they said that she didn't in any way profit off of that or have an advantage. 1.00

01:52:13.000 She's a liar. 0.97

01:52:14.000 She got hired from Harvard and she wrote Native American on her resume. 1.00

01:52:18.000 Like, they hired her based on her ethnicity.

01:52:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:52:21.000 She's a liar. 1.00

01:52:22.000 Yeah, that's a lie. 1.00

01:52:23.000 Yeah.

01:52:24.000 Which is fine.

01:52:24.000 Listen, I don't have no problem with my politicians lying.

01:52:27.000 They do it all the time.

01:52:27.000 But I want you to acknowledge your lie and hold yourself accountable.

01:52:31.000 Like, none of this shit is disqualified. 0.99

01:52:32.000 It's not the 80s anymore. 1.00

01:52:34.000 It's not the 90s where shit like that ruins you. 0.99

01:52:37.000 Just be honest. 0.99

01:52:38.000 Like, look.

01:52:38.000 I'm American.

01:52:39.000 I've cheated before.

01:52:40.000 I've taken shortcuts. 0.93

01:52:41.000 I fucking used to put the cheat code in Mike Tyson all the time just to get Mike Tyson and skip everybody else. 0.95

01:52:46.000 That's what we're based on. 0.90

01:52:47.000 So if she did that at some point in her life, was it a horrible thing to do?

01:52:50.000 Absolutely.

01:52:50.000 Does it make her a terrible person forever?

01:52:52.000 No.

01:52:53.000 I buy what she was saying though that she was told that she was Native American because many people were and then they find out when they get a DNA test that it's not.

01:53:00.000 Didn't that happen to you?

01:53:02.000 Didn't it happen to you?

01:53:03.000 Well, it hasn't been disproven yet, but yeah.

01:53:05.000 What are you, Native American?

01:53:07.000 Yeah, I was like, growing up, around the time I was going to college, a guy that works with my dad found out that he filed the paperwork to his college 10 years after the fact and got a bunch of money back.

01:53:19.000 And so my dad's like, well, we're Native American.

01:53:21.000 We've been told our whole time.

01:53:22.000 So we're trying to prove it.

01:53:23.000 Right.

01:53:24.000 With birth certificates and whatnot.

01:53:25.000 And it's really hard to because they didn't keep a lot of information back then.

01:53:28.000 Right.

01:53:28.000 So I put it on an application, got into Ohio State that way.

01:53:32.000 Got them.

01:53:33.000 And it was real weird when I was in the minority meeting.

01:53:37.000 Hall?

01:53:37.000 On the orientation day, they gave me a letter to say, show up at this separate meeting.

01:53:41.000 You pulled a goddamn Elizabeth Warren. 0.99

01:53:44.000 You took a position from a hard-working Cherokee kid. 1.00

01:53:50.000 But he did it in good faith.

01:53:51.000 I had no idea.

01:53:52.000 And it was the first time when I sent my application and it was like, what's your race?

01:53:55.000 I was like, I just found out I'm Native American, I guess, so I'm going to put that.

01:53:59.000 And no one checked, no one asked.

01:54:01.000 That's hilarious that people don't just...

01:54:03.000 Yeah.

01:54:03.000 I didn't know I was doing anything wrong.

01:54:05.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:54:06.000 The wild thing about that is that conversation, people ask me why I said that. 1.00

01:54:11.000 I'm like, I'm just too dumb to know that that wasn't a question I wasn't supposed to ask.

01:54:14.000 You were supposed to ask that. 0.96

01:54:15.000 I thought so too.

01:54:16.000 I thought I was just having a conversation. 0.98

01:54:18.000 The idea that you're not is ridiculous. 0.96

01:54:19.000 That's a huge thing. 0.98

01:54:20.000 We need to find out how she reacts to the fact that she told a lie. 0.96

01:54:24.000 Does the rest of her family, did that fuck up the whole lineage? 0.85

01:54:28.000 Right. 1.00

01:54:28.000 Did the whole family start tearing shit down off the wall? 1.00

01:54:31.000 Like, oh my God, we're not Native Americans. 1.00

01:54:32.000 Dude, how many dream catchers were in the garbage that weekend? 0.58

01:54:35.000 That's That's what I'm saying. 1.00

01:54:36.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:54:38.000 Just feathers sticking out of hefty bags. 0.99

01:54:39.000 That's what I'm saying. 0.99

01:54:40.000 Once she learns that, then the whole family has to realize, damn, we're not Native American. 0.99

01:54:44.000 They had to fuck up some family reunions, right? 0.99

01:54:45.000 They had to. 0.99

01:54:46.000 Fuck up some tradition. 1.00

01:54:47.000 They had to. 1.00

01:54:47.000 Oh my lord. 1.00

01:54:48.000 There's a lot of people that were shaking their head after that one.

01:54:51.000 Joe.

01:54:51.000 She actually got the DNA test.

01:54:53.000 Okay, can we talk about how fucked up Ticketmaster is real quick? 0.98

01:54:56.000 Yeah, you wanted to talk about that. 0.98

01:54:57.000 I really wanted to talk.

01:54:58.000 I just figured out.

01:54:59.000 I just put my mind together on this thing.

01:55:01.000 Yeah, it was a taxi sent me.

01:55:02.000 Oh my god.

01:55:03.000 Ticketmaster.

01:55:03.000 Fat models, Ticketmaster.

01:55:05.000 We're going to take them all down.

01:55:06.000 Okay, so Ticketmaster, you know the place where you buy tickets.

01:55:08.000 I had no clue about this Ticketmaster thing.

01:55:10.000 I'm just starting to do some theaters and shit on the tour, so I'm starting to look at what they charge to do the processing and servicing, right?

01:55:16.000 Yeah. 0.64

01:55:17.000 It's like a $30 or $40 ticket.

01:55:19.000 I looked at yours.

01:55:20.000 $40 tickets.

01:55:22.000 $16 in servicing.

01:55:24.000 For a service charge, yeah.

01:55:26.000 Is it per ticket as well? 1.00

01:55:27.000 Per fucking ticket. 1.00

01:55:30.000 40%. 1.00

01:55:30.000 Don't they got to pay for shit in the venue? 1.00

01:55:31.000 No, they don't. 1.00

01:55:33.000 That's the venue cost that you also got to pay.

01:55:35.000 It's just to process the ticket.

01:55:37.000 And if you want to pick up a will call, another $3.

01:55:40.000 It's unfathomable, right?

01:55:41.000 So I'm starting to think, I'm going, okay, for the first time in my life, I'm like, okay, I'm selling some tickets and everything's good, and I'm just getting a piece of the door, so I'm happy, right? 0.55

01:55:49.000 And my boy, who's like this genius fucking kid, OJ, Nigerian, all these Nigerians are geniuses, and he comes up to me, he's like, okay, but what about the processing fee for Ticketmaster? 0.66

01:55:57.000 How much are you getting off of that? 0.99

01:55:58.000 I go, what?

01:55:58.000 He's like, what percentage are you getting off of that?

01:56:00.000 I go, nothing.

01:56:00.000 He goes, wait.

01:56:01.000 But you're bringing all the ticket sales.

01:56:03.000 Why aren't you getting a piece that's 40% of your ticket price?

01:56:06.000 And I'm like, well, I don't know.

01:56:07.000 And he goes, and what about the data from the tickets being sold?

01:56:09.000 Are you getting that?

01:56:10.000 I go, no.

01:56:11.000 He goes, hold on. 1.00

01:56:12.000 So they're fucking you and getting paid to fuck you? 1.00

01:56:16.000 I go, what do you mean? 1.00

01:56:17.000 He goes...

01:56:17.000 The game is data now.

01:56:18.000 Any business that's successful right now is all about data acquisition.

01:56:22.000 Any business.

01:56:23.000 And data is not how many followers we have on Instagram because they could take your account away in a second.

01:56:27.000 How many subs do you get on YouTube because they could throttle your search.

01:56:30.000 We could see that happen all the time.

01:56:31.000 It's direct connect to fan.

01:56:33.000 Right?

01:56:33.000 And what Ticketmaster has done Is they're your ticketing site.

01:56:37.000 They get your email.

01:56:38.000 They get your data set.

01:56:40.000 They get all your fans.

01:56:41.000 They know exactly who your fans are.

01:56:42.000 And they email them and tell them when you're coming into town.

01:56:44.000 Or when somebody else.

01:56:45.000 Somebody that they might like that's like you.

01:56:47.000 Exactly.

01:56:47.000 And then they're getting paid an absorbent amount of money.

01:56:49.000 They're fucking over the fans on it.

01:56:50.000 So I'm like, I'm talking to him and he's like, yo, we got to just create another one of these. 0.76

01:56:53.000 We got to create another system that gives all that data to the comic.

01:56:57.000 Why is the middleman even there?

01:56:58.000 We could create a way cheaper ticketing service that gives every one of those emails to a comic.

01:57:05.000 And it's like comics used to do back in the days by putting the comic cards on the tables and you collect them afterwards.

01:57:09.000 You can have an email list for every time you go to Idaho, an email list for every time you go to New Jersey, an email list for all these different places.

01:57:15.000 That's what most authors do.

01:57:17.000 And Kevin Hart, Kevin Hart, that's how Kevin Hart came up. 0.97

01:57:19.000 Kevin Hart was going into all of these comedy clubs and he was getting everybody's motherfucking email. 0.83

01:57:23.000 People wonder why whenever Kevin would launch on these social media sites, he'd get all of these crazy followers immediately. 0.95

01:57:28.000 It's because of that road work he put in in those comedy clubs getting everybody's email.

01:57:33.000 He saw it before anybody.

01:57:34.000 I think Louis C.K. did that as well.

01:57:36.000 And Louis had this massive email and now you have direct connection with your fans.

01:57:40.000 Yeah.

01:57:40.000 And that's what your fans want.

01:57:41.000 Your fans don't want Ticketmaster telling them that Led Zeppelin's coming through.

01:57:44.000 They want to know when Rogan's coming through.

01:57:45.000 But you know Pearl Jam tried to fight them back in the day.

01:57:48.000 They have exclusive deals with certain venues.

01:57:51.000 They are top to bottom.

01:57:52.000 So they own Live Nation.

01:57:54.000 And Live Nation owns the venue.

01:57:56.000 So they're completely vertically integrated. 0.96

01:57:58.000 So if you want to play at the Garden or wherever the fuck it is, right? 0.87

01:58:00.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:58:01.000 So you go...

01:58:02.000 We're going to process your tickets.

01:58:03.000 The only way you perform here is you do it with our promotion company, which is the Live Nation, and you're going to have to use our ticket processing fee and our venue.

01:58:13.000 They actually own the venues now.

01:58:14.000 But here's the thing.

01:58:15.000 There's a handful of you guys that get to play those venues.

01:58:18.000 Now, I think with podcasts, now shows are 300 people.

01:58:22.000 There's going to be thousands of comics that have 300 fans.

01:58:25.000 And the venue where we perform is not imperative that it's this specific one.

01:58:30.000 It could be a comedy club.

01:58:32.000 It could be a hall.

01:58:33.000 It could be some conference center.

01:58:34.000 It could be anything.

01:58:35.000 It could be Airbnb.

01:58:36.000 But aren't you only doing Ticketmaster when you're doing these big-ass venues?

01:58:39.000 Well, sometimes, now that they're Live Nation, they own some certain clubs.

01:58:42.000 Well, I do.

01:58:43.000 I work with Live Nation. 1.00

01:58:44.000 So now Live Nation, all your shit is that. 0.99

01:58:46.000 You still do stand-up? 1.00

01:58:47.000 Yeah.

01:58:48.000 Really?

01:58:48.000 Yeah.

01:58:49.000 Why not just do the podcast live every fucking way? 0.97

01:58:52.000 Different, man. 0.97

01:58:53.000 It's not the same.

01:58:54.000 Yeah, I like podcasts like this, where it's just people talking.

01:58:58.000 You do it differently when you're playing for an audience.

01:59:01.000 You perform for them and it becomes this weird thing. 0.99

01:59:03.000 Start dancing and shit. 0.89

01:59:06.000 It just is not the same. 0.99

01:59:09.000 It's not a real conversation.

01:59:10.000 I think the intimacy of podcasts, one of the things that people like about it is they listen in their ear.

01:59:14.000 They've got an earplug.

01:59:16.000 It's like you're talking to them, like you're right there.

01:59:18.000 When you're doing it live, it becomes a different thing.

01:59:20.000 Not that it's a bad thing, but it's a different thing.

01:59:23.000 Stand-up is way better.

01:59:24.000 It's just way more fun.

01:59:25.000 All I'm saying is, what are we doing with this?

01:59:28.000 You should have a direct connect to all your fans.

01:59:31.000 I should have a direct connect to all my fans.

01:59:33.000 Even the venues should have that as well.

01:59:35.000 Why are we giving away all the data?

01:59:38.000 To a company that's really not... 0.99

01:59:40.000 I know my agent's going to call me right after this and he's going to be like, why the fuck? 0.99

01:59:43.000 We have deals with Ticketmaster. 1.00

01:59:44.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:59:45.000 So you want their emails. 1.00

01:59:46.000 You want your audience's emails, basically.

01:59:47.000 And that's what the audience wants.

01:59:48.000 And I don't want my audience to get charged $16 every time they buy a ticket.

01:59:51.000 Where does that money go?

01:59:53.000 It costs $16 for you to process a ticket?

01:59:55.000 Why not just give out...

01:59:56.000 40% of the ticket price.

01:59:57.000 Why not just create an email...

01:59:59.000 And when you're at these venues, just put it up on the Jumbotron and be like, yo, email me after the show.

02:00:05.000 I mean, that's one more step.

02:00:07.000 Or we could just create the ticket processing that charges them way less and already starts aggregating the emails.

02:00:15.000 And then if you want to get real crazy with it, you have a boy of yours that, like, let's say my buddy Akash, right, that I do a podcast with.

02:00:21.000 It's like, hey Akash, you're about to go on tour?

02:00:23.000 Yo, why don't you just use my data set, man?

02:00:25.000 They're going to know you from doing a podcast with me.

02:00:27.000 Maybe they'll want to see you. 1.00

02:00:28.000 It's like, we get to empower each other through that shit. 0.99

02:00:31.000 Am I making sense? 1.00

02:00:33.000 No, it makes sense.

02:00:34.000 The thing is specifically about data, about the email list, and about they get that if you show up in these different places.

02:00:41.000 They get the email address because that's how people get their tickets.

02:00:43.000 But you get the option of saying, because they'll ask you, they'll say, can Ticketmaster...

02:00:49.000 Reply to you or can Ticketmaster send you the latest updates and news and events?

02:00:53.000 You can click no.

02:00:54.000 And I click no all the time.

02:00:56.000 Sure, that's Ticketmaster.

02:00:57.000 But you would click yes if it was us and it was somebody who you were invested in going to see.

02:01:01.000 You just don't want Ticketmaster promoting random events.

02:01:04.000 Depends what you're sending me.

02:01:04.000 But even if you click no, Ticketmaster still gets your email address and might sell it.

02:01:09.000 Absolutely.

02:01:10.000 Even if you just click no, like, do you want updates from Ticketmaster?

02:01:14.000 You're not saying, is it okay if this company just starts selling my email address?

02:01:19.000 Because that's what they do.

02:01:19.000 That's what they do.

02:01:20.000 Bro, they own us anyway.

02:01:22.000 But they don't have to.

02:01:23.000 I'm saying now, like, everybody that's coming out to your shows is coming out from this podcast.

02:01:26.000 They're not coming out because of Ticketmaster.

02:01:28.000 And if you use a different email service or ticketing service, they would come out with that one.

02:01:33.000 There was a Sam Harris podcast where he talked about this, where he had on this expert, and they were discussing how data is, it's like a commodity that no one knew was a commodity, and we signed off on it before we realized it, and these people that don't provide any service are getting that data, and it's worth billions and billions of dollars,

02:01:50.000 which is essentially what Facebook is.

02:01:53.000 But it's also shaping the way we communicate with each other because the things that attract people are conflict, right?

02:01:59.000 So the things that get you to engage are conflict.

02:02:02.000 So that's the stuff that shows up in your email feed or your Facebook feed.

02:02:05.000 They find out what's going to annoy you. 1.00

02:02:07.000 And that's the shit that they show you. 1.00

02:02:09.000 That's why OJ has 800,000 followers in two fucking days. 1.00

02:02:13.000 Instantly on Twitter, which nobody grows on Twitter anymore. 0.98

02:02:15.000 Yo, but at least Twitter, at least Facebook, they're not charging.

02:02:20.000 Right.

02:02:21.000 My issue with, if Ticketmaster was like, hey, here's a free service.

02:02:23.000 We just want to get your data.

02:02:24.000 I'd be like, all right, boom.

02:02:25.000 Cool.

02:02:25.000 But Facebook is charging.

02:02:26.000 You're going to charge me? 1.00

02:02:28.000 You're going to fuck me in my ass and make me pay you? 1.00

02:02:30.000 I think Facebook is charging. 1.00

02:02:31.000 They're just not charging.

02:02:31.000 For ads.

02:02:32.000 Yeah.

02:02:33.000 And also, think about it.

02:02:35.000 They've stolen a lot of data from people in a lot of ways.

02:02:38.000 Yes.

02:02:39.000 So that is a charge.

02:02:40.000 Because you signed up for something, but you didn't know you were signing up for that.

02:02:43.000 I didn't know I was giving you all of this. 0.97

02:02:44.000 What's weird to me, man, is fucking when you're talking about something and then those ads show up in your Google feed. 0.98

02:02:50.000 We were just talking about coolers. 0.99

02:02:53.000 And I looked at my Google News feed and there's ads for coolers.

02:02:56.000 I'm like, how does my phone know I was talking about coolers?

02:02:58.000 That's why I said they own us.

02:03:00.000 You know what else is crazy? 0.99

02:03:01.000 When you get in your car and you look down at your phone and it says 32 minutes to wherever the fuck you're going... 1.00

02:03:08.000 That shit happens to me all the time. 1.00

02:03:11.000 He knows where you're going to go without you deciding. 1.00

02:03:13.000 Look at your phone!

02:03:14.000 It'll be like 32 minutes to whatever gym I go to.

02:03:18.000 It used to tell me 40 minutes to work in the morning.

02:03:21.000 Now it says 40 minutes to Starbucks.

02:03:24.000 Bro.

02:03:24.000 I'm like, I drink Starbucks every morning.

02:03:26.000 And there's a Starbucks by my job in the building.

02:03:28.000 But that's where it tells me I'm going every morning.

02:03:31.000 I watched one video of Robbie Williams.

02:03:34.000 You know that English singer?

02:03:35.000 It was a YouTube video with him and Tyson Fury.

02:03:39.000 I just clicked.

02:03:39.000 It was two minutes long.

02:03:41.000 Every other ad on Instagram is RobbieWilliamsLive.

02:03:46.000 So it's not good.

02:03:47.000 The targeting isn't perfect.

02:03:49.000 I'm not going to buy those tickets.

02:03:50.000 But my point is, it's scary.

02:03:51.000 One YouTube video and then a completely different platform?

02:03:54.000 Yeah.

02:03:55.000 And this is all within the last decade.

02:03:57.000 They figured out how to do this.

02:03:58.000 Yeah.

02:04:00.000 Even if we unplug, we're still plugged in.

02:04:02.000 If we were all to delete everything that we have on social media right now, they got us already, bro. 0.98

02:04:06.000 That's why I don't like all that Snapchat shit with the face filters and all that. 0.97

02:04:09.000 Did you see what they did to him? 0.99

02:04:10.000 What'd they do to you?

02:04:11.000 What'd they do to me?

02:04:12.000 Oh, the AI thing?

02:04:13.000 This was nuts.

02:04:14.000 They made a complete deep fake.

02:04:17.000 They basically took all the recordings of me talking and made me say words that I've never said before. 0.97

02:04:25.000 It talked about me sponsoring a hockey team made entirely of chimpanzees and a bunch of other crazy shit that I might actually say, but it said it. 0.80

02:04:33.000 I've never said those things. 0.95

02:04:35.000 So they use my voice with artificial intelligence.

02:04:38.000 All the sounds that my mouth makes, and they use it with all the right inflections, and they create these sentences.

02:04:46.000 Jay Pharoah is out of a job.

02:04:47.000 Jay Pharoah.

02:04:50.000 They just passed the legislation about that.

02:04:52.000 About deepfake images.

02:04:54.000 Yeah, the congresswoman from Brooklyn, I can't remember her name. 0.78

02:04:56.000 She just passed the legislation about deepfakes.

02:04:58.000 They also did video of the Mona Lisa talking.

02:05:00.000 Bro.

02:05:01.000 They got the Mona Lisa.

02:05:02.000 They took the painting of the Mona Lisa and now she's opening her mouth and saying things.

02:05:07.000 They can do it with Abraham Lincoln. 0.66

02:05:08.000 How can you believe anything you hear on social media anymore, yo?

02:05:10.000 It's going to be in a few years, you're not going to be able to.

02:05:14.000 A few?

02:05:14.000 Now!

02:05:15.000 You don't know what's true and what's not true and nobody cares about the truth and the lies more entertaining.

02:05:19.000 Maybe that's better. 1.00

02:05:20.000 Maybe now we can say fucked up shit and be like, bro, deep fake. 1.00

02:05:22.000 What are you talking about? 1.00

02:05:23.000 Definitely deep fake. 1.00

02:05:24.000 Well, you're already getting porn with actresses. 0.99

02:05:27.000 They're taking actresses' face and putting them on porn stars and you can't tell. 0.99

02:05:31.000 Oh, wait a minute. 1.00

02:05:32.000 Yeah, you could fuck everyone. 1.00

02:05:34.000 And now they're going to be able to do that with virtual reality. 1.00

02:05:37.000 VR porn.

02:05:38.000 Yeah, they have that. 1.00

02:05:40.000 VR porn, and they put something on your dick so it feels like... 1.00

02:05:42.000 Yeah, they could put one of them little things that jerks you off. 1.00

02:05:45.000 Eh.

02:05:48.000 No, you're faithful now.

02:05:49.000 You're going to need this, bro.

02:05:52.000 It's not the same.

02:05:53.000 It's not the same.

02:05:54.000 I'm old school.

02:05:54.000 You like your palm.

02:05:55.000 Yo, I just started fucking listening to Audible books. 1.00

02:05:58.000 Really? 0.99

02:05:58.000 Because I'm old school. 0.99

02:06:00.000 I like flipping the pages of the book.

02:06:01.000 I just started listening to Audible only because of time purposes.

02:06:04.000 And it's like listening to long-form podcasts.

02:06:07.000 I'm like, you know what? 0.99

02:06:08.000 Fucking, I'm still getting the information. 0.99

02:06:09.000 And I feel like at this age, I retain information more by hearing it. 0.99

02:06:12.000 Right. 1.00

02:06:12.000 So I'm not about to go start fucking virtual reality, pussy. 1.00

02:06:16.000 No. 1.00

02:06:17.000 Here's the shit that's not porn, but could be interesting. 0.99

02:06:19.000 Have you seen the one about the basketball games? 0.99

02:06:21.000 What?

02:06:21.000 Okay, so they put a few cameras so you can sit front row, but in VR. Ooh.

02:06:26.000 I don't think I would mind that.

02:06:28.000 That sounds amazing.

02:06:29.000 You're looking around, you're seeing all the people that are actually there, and you're front row at the game.

02:06:34.000 Yo, last month I went to...

02:06:35.000 I got to use the bathroom. 1.00

02:06:36.000 I went to Disney, and I went to that fucking... 1.00

02:06:39.000 That Avatar... 1.00

02:06:40.000 Avatar...

02:06:41.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:06:42.000 Flights of Passage.

02:06:43.000 Oh, my God.

02:06:44.000 Amazing, right?

02:06:44.000 I had to write it twice.

02:06:45.000 Yeah, me too. 1.00

02:06:46.000 That shit was incredible. 1.00

02:06:48.000 And you know, I got anxiety, right? 1.00

02:06:50.000 So I'm on it, and I'm like, holy shit! 0.97

02:06:53.000 Until you just remember, I'm not even moving. 0.98

02:06:56.000 Right.

02:06:57.000 And then it's just like, it settles everything for you, and then you can just enjoy the actual experience.

02:07:02.000 And that helped me.

02:07:03.000 I was telling my therapist about it, because that helps me when I'm dealing with my anxiety, because it's like, you know, breathing exercises, things that get you back to center.

02:07:09.000 Even though you're falling, and you can feel the dragon breathing on you, it's just like, when you realize...

02:07:15.000 You're really not moving.

02:07:17.000 It just brings you right back to center.

02:07:19.000 Then you're okay.

02:07:20.000 Then you're fine.

02:07:22.000 You can't do that on a roller coaster.

02:07:23.000 No.

02:07:24.000 That's because that's real.

02:07:25.000 Yes, it's real.

02:07:26.000 But if they have a roller coaster with virtual reality, like if you're wearing virtual reality goggles and they put you on a roller coaster.

02:07:33.000 But I can enjoy...

02:07:35.000 What do you mean?

02:07:35.000 They put these goggles on, and then while you're on this rollercoaster, you're experiencing things that aren't really there.

02:07:41.000 But you're going through wormholes, and you're traveling, and you're seeing things happen in front of you.

02:07:47.000 I'd have a heart attack.

02:07:48.000 I'd have a panic attack.

02:07:50.000 That's not something I want to experience.

02:07:52.000 I'm glad you talk about anxiety.

02:07:54.000 I'm glad you talk about it the way you do because I think you've opened it up for a lot of people.

02:07:57.000 I think you've made it a subject that's okay to talk about for someone like you who's like a cool guy who's a smart dude who is successful and talks openly about anxiety and about how it's affected you.

02:08:11.000 I think you're doing a very big service for that.

02:08:14.000 I didn't even know what anxiety was until 2010. Because growing up in the environment that I grew up in, I just thought all those feelings were normal.

02:08:21.000 I thought all those feelings of paranoia or being anxious all the time.

02:08:26.000 And I used to smoke weed.

02:08:27.000 So when you smoke weed and you have a panic attack, you just blame it on the weed.

02:08:31.000 I remember driving to Burger King one time with two of my homeboys.

02:08:34.000 One of them is dead now.

02:08:35.000 His name is Jarrell.

02:08:36.000 Rest in peace.

02:08:36.000 And my man Zeke.

02:08:37.000 And I was high as hell and my steering wheel needed like steering fluid so it was shaking.

02:08:43.000 So it was shaking my legs and I'm bugging out just driving the Burger King a two-mile ride.

02:08:48.000 I'm like, yo, one of y'all got to drive.

02:08:50.000 We're all going to die.

02:08:51.000 You better take the wheel right now. 0.89

02:08:52.000 Take the wheel right now. 1.00

02:08:53.000 I'm going to crash this motherfucking car. 1.00

02:08:54.000 I'm tripping the fuck out. 1.00

02:08:55.000 And they looking at me like, yo, don't let this motherfucker smoke no more. 1.00

02:08:58.000 But it had nothing to do with the weed. 1.00

02:08:59.000 The weed probably accentuated though, no?

02:09:01.000 Definitely did.

02:09:02.000 Because when I found out what anxiety was in 2010 and I didn't start going to therapy until like two years ago.

02:09:10.000 Because back in 2010 when I got diagnosed with my first Panic attack that somebody, the doctor was saying, hey, this is a panic attack. 0.88

02:09:17.000 I had just gotten fired from radio for the fourth motherfucking time.

02:09:20.000 And I was back at home living with my mom at like 31 years old with a two-year-old daughter and, you know, collecting unemployment checks. 0.97

02:09:26.000 So when I'm having this panic attack and I go to the doctor and he's like, yo, your heart is fine.

02:09:30.000 You got a perfectly fine heart.

02:09:31.000 You're healthy.

02:09:32.000 You got an athlete's heart.

02:09:33.000 He was like, yo, are you stressed about anything? 1.00

02:09:35.000 I'm like, fuck yeah. 0.98

02:09:37.000 So in my mind, all I gotta do is get me another job, get back in position, and everything will be okay. 0.99

02:09:42.000 But when you get back in position, and you've made more money than you've ever made in your life, and you've got books that are selling and TV shows and all of this other shit, and you're still having those same panic attacks, you're like, well, what the fuck is going on with me? 0.88

02:09:54.000 That's it. 0.81

02:09:55.000 That's exactly what it is.

02:09:56.000 Pressure.

02:09:56.000 You think you're going to lose everything.

02:09:58.000 It's also, you experience pressure that most people will never experience because you experience pressure at this public scale.

02:10:05.000 It's not just pressure.

02:10:06.000 It's pressure with people's eyes on you and expectations and criticisms and all these different things that the average person is not going to experience that for millions of people.

02:10:15.000 And you do.

02:10:16.000 And it's just like, it's always on. 1.00

02:10:17.000 And if you're one of those crazy fucks that reads comments, good luck. 1.00

02:10:20.000 Lord have mercy. 1.00

02:10:21.000 Good luck.

02:10:22.000 We love that.

02:10:22.000 That was my problem for years.

02:10:23.000 At first I used to enjoy it.

02:10:25.000 Because I was the guy who came up on YouTube looking at all these world star hip-hop conspiracy theories about people. 0.99

02:10:31.000 And you'd be like, oh my god, this motherfucker sacrificed his hamsters and that's how he got successful. 0.99

02:10:35.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

02:10:37.000 You think all that shit is cool. 0.99

02:10:39.000 Until you get older and you start seeing things about you and you laugh at it at first. 1.00

02:10:44.000 Until you realize, now they're really starting to say some wild shit. 0.98

02:10:47.000 What was the craziest one that you heard about you? 0.99

02:10:50.000 I mean, for me, you know what it is. 0.97

02:10:51.000 When they tried to Me Too the fuck out of me last year.

02:10:54.000 Oh, yeah, they tried to get him out of here.

02:10:54.000 You know, that was the most...

02:10:57.000 That was the wildest one to me because I was always the person that said, live your truth so nobody can use your truth against you.

02:11:02.000 Right.

02:11:02.000 So it's not like they bought up anything that I hadn't spoken about numerous times before or written about in my books.

02:11:07.000 They just decided to attack.

02:11:09.000 Oh, my God.

02:11:10.000 Targeted.

02:11:11.000 Targeted, planned attack.

02:11:13.000 Oh, man.

02:11:14.000 It can happen.

02:11:15.000 Can it?

02:11:16.000 So for me, that was like...

02:11:18.000 Alright, this is going too far, but then it's like, you really can't do anything about it.

02:11:22.000 That's the other thing.

02:11:23.000 There's no way to fight it.

02:11:24.000 Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, there's no way to put the toothpaste back in the tube. 0.76

02:11:28.000 So the only thing you can do is just either let it consume you and probably ruin you just because you took it all in, or you just keep it the fuck moving.

02:11:37.000 You have to be confident enough to know what's the truth and what's not the truth.

02:11:41.000 Yeah, and so now you don't read any comments anymore?

02:11:44.000 I don't go on Twitter at all.

02:11:46.000 Twitter's too toxic. 1.00

02:11:48.000 We're in verbally abusive relationships with our fucking smartphones. 1.00

02:11:51.000 Yeah, I agree. 1.00

02:11:52.000 It's definitely not healthy.

02:11:54.000 We were talking about it yesterday, me and Duncan Trussell.

02:11:57.000 We were saying that it's like your diet. 0.89

02:11:59.000 Like your diet, if you take in junk food all the time, eat a bunch of shitty things that are unhealthy, it's not good for your body.

02:12:06.000 Well, your mental diet is important too.

02:12:08.000 And if you're always taking in these toxic arguments, I mean, half of Twitter is just people screaming at each other and just yelling and insulting each other and trying to find ways in this person's being shitty or wrong or negative.

02:12:21.000 And it's like, that's not real life.

02:12:23.000 No.

02:12:23.000 The real life that we experience and that we're designed to experience is like this.

02:12:27.000 We're good to go.

02:12:45.000 Conversations with people actually being nice to each other in person.

02:12:48.000 I don't do podcasts over Skype.

02:12:50.000 I don't like it.

02:12:51.000 I want to see you.

02:12:52.000 I want you to be in the room with me.

02:12:54.000 I want everyone to know we're going to be okay.

02:12:56.000 When you have these conversations and people listen to them just one-on-one like this or two-on-one, this is kind of what we're doing now.

02:13:05.000 This makes sense to people.

02:13:06.000 That's one of the reasons when I'm out and about, and if I'm at the airport and somebody comes up to me and talks to me, I speak to them.

02:13:12.000 Because I feel like that interaction was supposed to happen.

02:13:15.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

02:13:16.000 Twitter, Instagram, I ain't supposed to be talking to you on this shit. 1.00

02:13:20.000 Human beings are not wired to be that wired. 1.00

02:13:24.000 Everybody should not have that kind of access to you.

02:13:26.000 So it's just like, we gotta take back some of that access.

02:13:28.000 And you see the facade fall apart when you respond to one of their tweets. 1.00

02:13:32.000 Like someone would be like, fuck you, Charlamagne, you ain't shit. 1.00

02:13:34.000 And then you could be like, why? 1.00

02:13:35.000 And they'd be like, I'm just playing, bro.

02:13:37.000 I'm a fan.

02:13:38.000 I didn't really know what to say.

02:13:39.000 There's always that.

02:13:40.000 They're just trying to get a reaction.

02:13:41.000 They just want a reaction.

02:13:41.000 In my mind, if people, if you like somebody, right, you see them, you're going to go up to them and speak to them.

02:13:49.000 I just try to gauge things on how I would do it, right?

02:13:51.000 For example, I was on a plane with Steve Nash this morning.

02:13:54.000 Okay.

02:13:55.000 I saw Steve Nash. 1.00

02:13:56.000 I'm like, Wax is like, oh shit, Wax, my boy, he's like, oh shit, that's Steve Nash. 1.00

02:13:59.000 And I'm like, oh shit, that's Steve. 1.00

02:14:01.000 I didn't speak to Steve. 0.98

02:14:03.000 Did you say hello?

02:14:04.000 No.

02:14:04.000 Nothing?

02:14:04.000 No.

02:14:05.000 Okay.

02:14:05.000 I didn't feel it.

02:14:06.000 Even though I respect him.

02:14:08.000 Right, right, right.

02:14:08.000 Know he's a great player.

02:14:09.000 I feel like John Stockton.

02:14:10.000 That's a little different.

02:14:11.000 That's a little different.

02:14:13.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:14:14.000 Steve, I didn't feel it.

02:14:15.000 I didn't feel it.

02:14:15.000 There's some people you have to say hi to.

02:14:17.000 Say what?

02:14:17.000 There's some people you have to say hi to.

02:14:19.000 Rachel Dolezal. 0.99

02:14:20.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00

02:14:21.000 I said hi. 1.00

02:14:22.000 Did you?

02:14:23.000 I met her.

02:14:23.000 Seattle.

02:14:24.000 Absolutely.

02:14:25.000 Where was she?

02:14:26.000 I saw her with, I think she had at least one kid, maybe another one. 1.00

02:14:28.000 She was just at the airport.

02:14:29.000 We're online.

02:14:30.000 She's bisexual now, too.

02:14:31.000 No TSA pre-checks.

02:14:32.000 She's bisexual now, too.

02:14:33.000 She's bisexual, biracial.

02:14:35.000 Oh, no, she's not biracial. 0.99

02:14:36.000 Transracial. 0.94

02:14:37.000 She is black. 0.96

02:14:39.000 Transracial. 0.94

02:14:39.000 She's not both. 0.94

02:14:40.000 Transracial. 0.94

02:14:40.000 I know, but what I'm saying is she's bi, so she's straight and gay with the thing. 0.94

02:14:45.000 Yeah.

02:14:45.000 But I said hello, said what's up, amazing forehead, one of the best foreheads you'll ever see in a game.

02:14:49.000 Unreal.

02:14:49.000 I would have ignored her.

02:14:50.000 What?

02:14:51.000 I would have ignored her.

02:14:53.000 You wouldn't have got the selfie?

02:14:55.000 No!

02:14:58.000 I saw Jussie Smollett.

02:15:00.000 I took a picture of him.

02:15:01.000 Oh my goodness.

02:15:02.000 In Lafayette Bakery.

02:15:03.000 What do you think is going to happen with him?

02:15:04.000 Nothing.

02:15:05.000 Absolutely nothing.

02:15:07.000 It's amazing nothing legally.

02:15:09.000 It's amazing legally.

02:15:10.000 Oh, I think Chicago's coming after him, though.

02:15:12.000 You think so?

02:15:12.000 Nah.

02:15:13.000 Didn't they say that they were going to...

02:15:14.000 They're trying to get him for the money.

02:15:14.000 For the money that they spent.

02:15:16.000 But that's not that much.

02:15:16.000 There's no such thing as cancel culture no more.

02:15:18.000 Cancel culture is absolute bullshit. 1.00

02:15:20.000 Ooh. 1.00

02:15:21.000 Really?

02:15:21.000 O.J. Simpson proved that.

02:15:23.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

02:15:25.000 When Bill Cosby comes home, he'll be on the road doing motherfucking stand-up. 0.98

02:15:28.000 R. Kelly's still out here selling shows. 0.98

02:15:31.000 Charlie Sheen is still out here flourishing.

02:15:33.000 Charlie Sheen ducked it all.

02:15:36.000 Dude, what?

02:15:38.000 Wait a minute.

02:15:39.000 Not all.

02:15:41.000 He did get that AIDS. He's got AIDS, buddy.

02:15:43.000 He got the good AIDS? Today with medication.

02:15:47.000 Exactly.

02:15:48.000 What is HIV? Come on, man.

02:15:53.000 What is HIV? Some say the greatest endorsement deal Magic Johnson ever signed.

02:16:01.000 I'm saying, we're not going to act like his career didn't flourish!

02:16:04.000 And he looks great!

02:16:05.000 Take this A2, go and get some movie theaters! 0.94

02:16:07.000 I was in my car the day they announced on the radio that Magic Johnson had HIV, and I was shitting my pants.

02:16:13.000 I was like, oh my god, this is like the beginning of a zombie movie.

02:16:15.000 We're all going to get it.

02:16:16.000 If Magic Johnson, with all his money and all his fame, if he's got it, I'm going to get it.

02:16:20.000 We're all going to get it.

02:16:21.000 I was terrified.

02:16:22.000 Did you stop brawling?

02:16:23.000 I remember in my car, driving, and then I hear it on the radio. 0.99

02:16:26.000 I'm like, holy shit! 1.00

02:16:28.000 Holy shit, this is insane! 1.00

02:16:31.000 30 years later, he looks great. 0.99

02:16:32.000 He looks amazing.

02:16:33.000 He looks great! 0.98

02:16:34.000 He's on TV telling us why he left the motherfucking Lakers. 1.00

02:16:38.000 He's like, fuck the Lakers. 1.00

02:16:39.000 Not once did somebody say, yo, you know Magic got HIV? Oh, I said it. 1.00

02:16:44.000 That's all I was thinking about.

02:16:45.000 Every time I see him.

02:16:46.000 Knock it off.

02:16:46.000 Because he looks incredible.

02:16:47.000 He does look incredible.

02:16:48.000 He does look incredible.

02:16:49.000 Yeah.

02:16:50.000 He's not even positive in tests anymore.

02:16:53.000 Wait, what?

02:16:54.000 I heard that.

02:17:14.000 The whole situation with magic.

02:17:15.000 And he was like, the reason that they chose magic was because they wanted to erase a lot of these stigmas.

02:17:21.000 People thought that HIV and AIDS was a gay disease and they needed like an alpha male, I guess, to have it to kind of erase that stigma and to let people know that you can live with it.

02:17:33.000 Like HIV and AIDS... You mean like they gave it to him?

02:17:36.000 Well, this is what he told us.

02:17:37.000 This is not...

02:17:38.000 By the way, this is not a Charlamagne Tha God, Terry.

02:17:40.000 All right?

02:17:41.000 All right.

02:17:42.000 I'm telling you what somebody told me.

02:17:44.000 What they said to me was Magic Hat got caught up in some type of scandal.

02:17:48.000 Oh, I heard this.

02:17:49.000 Underage, right?

02:17:50.000 Yeah, and before the scandal came out, because the person that he was with was like some...

02:17:56.000 Allegedly.

02:17:57.000 Some bigwig's child or something like that. 1.00

02:18:00.000 And so they said, this is what you're going to do so we don't ruin you.

02:18:04.000 I'm not saying it's true.

02:18:05.000 Now, Joe, before you take this in, he believes in Sasquatch.

02:18:08.000 No, I'm not saying I believe this!

02:18:10.000 He doesn't.

02:18:10.000 He believes Sasquatch was real.

02:18:12.000 That just started right now on this podcast.

02:18:13.000 If I asked him yesterday, he'd dig 100% there.

02:18:16.000 Sasquatch is unreal.

02:18:17.000 I'm not saying I believe that magic theory.

02:18:19.000 I'm just repeating what I was told.

02:18:21.000 That is a common rumor that's out there.

02:18:22.000 I've heard that rumor as well.

02:18:24.000 That he doesn't actually have it, but that it was either that or... 1.00

02:18:28.000 But we just got done saying how you read rumors about you that are ridiculous, and you go, what the fuck? 0.99

02:18:32.000 And then you realize, oh, this is what happens. 1.00

02:18:34.000 People just make shit up, and then people repeat the shit that people make up. 1.00

02:18:38.000 Because we can't fathom that he beat AIDS, bro. 1.00

02:18:40.000 AIDS was bodying people back in the day. 0.90

02:18:43.000 Freddie Mercury.

02:18:44.000 Freddie, gone.

02:18:45.000 Yeah.

02:18:46.000 Who else?

02:18:46.000 Eazy-E. Eazy-E, my downstairs neighbor.

02:18:50.000 Yeah.

02:18:50.000 Was your downstairs neighbor?

02:18:51.000 No, no, I had a downstairs neighbor who had AIDS. What?

02:19:03.000 I learned about AIDS real young.

02:19:07.000 I thought Andrew was in his 30s. 1.00

02:19:09.000 I was like, what the fuck? 1.00

02:19:13.000 Look at him, yo. 1.00

02:19:14.000 Book Charlie Sheen for $350.

02:19:16.000 Book him where?

02:19:17.000 On Cameo.

02:19:18.000 Oh, on Cameo.

02:19:21.000 Why does he have sunglasses on?

02:19:23.000 What is happening here?

02:19:25.000 What is he doing?

02:19:27.000 He's strange.

02:19:29.000 He aged very quickly.

02:19:32.000 He seemed to be fine when he was doing Two and a Half Men.

02:19:35.000 When he stopped doing that show, he aged like a hundred years.

02:19:38.000 Joe, he has HIV. We don't know how it's affecting him.

02:19:40.000 That's true too.

02:19:41.000 I forgot he has HIV. I forgot.

02:19:44.000 Everybody's not Magic Johnson here.

02:19:46.000 I forgot he has it.

02:19:47.000 Magic.

02:19:48.000 By the way, that is why I say Magic is the greatest NBA player of all time.

02:19:55.000 Why? 0.97

02:19:55.000 Because of that, he played 13 seasons in the NBA, went to nine NBA Finals, won five of them, won in college, came in, won his rookie year, and went one-on-one with HIV and fucking won. 0.97

02:20:08.000 Destroyed. 0.93

02:20:08.000 He destroyed the stigma of HIV. He definitely did. 0.93

02:20:11.000 Anybody that catches HIV right now, the first thing you're going to say to yourself is, give me Magic, Doc.

02:20:15.000 I can live through anything if Magic made it.

02:20:17.000 Yeah.

02:20:17.000 Magic's fine.

02:20:18.000 30 years later, he's okay.

02:20:19.000 It's not a death sentence anymore.

02:20:21.000 That's it.

02:20:21.000 And by the way, What's worse?

02:20:23.000 Herpes all over your dick for life. 1.00

02:20:25.000 Not that it comes back and forth, but it's always there. 1.00

02:20:28.000 Open blisters.

02:20:29.000 Forever?

02:20:29.000 Forever.

02:20:30.000 Or having HIV. Definitely.

02:20:32.000 Herpes.

02:20:33.000 It's worse.

02:20:34.000 Yeah.

02:20:35.000 Because HIV, they can basically cure it. 1.00

02:20:38.000 If you have just the herpes on your dick forever, meaning those blisters don't go away, you can't even fuck. 1.00

02:20:43.000 It'll hurt. 1.00

02:20:43.000 No, the blisters go away. 1.00

02:20:45.000 No, but he's saying that you get it forever.

02:20:46.000 Do they?

02:20:48.000 You have outbreaks.

02:20:48.000 Yeah.

02:20:51.000 No, I'm saying this specific type of real hardcore herpes, they never go away.

02:20:56.000 They're just always there.

02:20:57.000 They have one that doesn't go away? 0.97

02:20:59.000 Hypothetically.

02:20:59.000 I don't want no hypothetical herpes.

02:21:01.000 Did you ever see the Damon Wayans bit about Magic when Magic came back to the NBA? No, no.

02:21:06.000 About nobody wanted to block him, except Dennis Rodman. 1.00

02:21:09.000 Dennis Rodman's like, fuck you, I'll spit in your mouth and accelerate your symptoms. 1.00

02:21:14.000 Dude, people don't give Damon Wayans enough credit. 1.00

02:21:18.000 No, Damon's a goat, man.

02:21:19.000 He's one of the greatest of all time.

02:21:20.000 They don't give him enough credit.

02:21:21.000 He is.

02:21:22.000 We had to actually delete a Damon Wayans joke from The Breakfast Club.

02:21:26.000 Because it used to play.

02:21:28.000 You know how you have stuff that plays as a loop?

02:21:31.000 We had to delete it once the Me Too time's up era came.

02:21:33.000 Can you say it?

02:21:34.000 I mean, I'll say it.

02:21:36.000 Damon Wayans!

02:21:38.000 Damon Wayans was on The Breakfast Club and he was talking about the Bill Cosby situation.

02:21:43.000 He just goes, yo man, have you seen the women that are accusing Bill Cosby? 1.00

02:21:47.000 They're all unrapeable.

02:21:50.000 Damon Wayans said that.

02:21:52.000 Swinging for the fences.

02:21:53.000 He always has.

02:21:54.000 Always has. 0.99

02:21:55.000 He doesn't give a fuck, man. 1.00

02:21:57.000 But we do. 1.00

02:21:58.000 So that's why we took that shit out of rotation. 0.99

02:21:59.000 I understand. 0.99

02:22:00.000 I understand.

02:22:01.000 I'm not taking the heat for somebody else's words. 0.94

02:22:03.000 When he said, Dennis Rodman said, I'll spit in your mouth and accelerate your symptoms.

02:22:07.000 Bro, think about when Karl Malone. 0.82

02:22:09.000 Think about Karl Malone.

02:22:10.000 Everybody, right now, Karl Malone would get so much flack for this.

02:22:13.000 What'd he say?

02:22:13.000 But in the 90s, what he said made sense.

02:22:16.000 Oh.

02:22:16.000 Because none of us really knew what HIV AIDS was.

02:22:18.000 Do you remember what he said?

02:22:19.000 What'd he say?

02:22:20.000 Oh, about...

02:22:21.000 Karl was like, I'm not playing basketball with him.

02:22:22.000 Like, what if I hit him and he starts bleeding and he gives me like...

02:22:25.000 But that was what a lot of people were thinking.

02:22:27.000 Sure. 0.99

02:22:28.000 How could you be mad at him for not knowing, for being ignorant? 0.98

02:22:30.000 People are worried about mosquitoes, remember that? 0.99

02:22:32.000 Yes, I do.

02:22:33.000 What about mosquitoes?

02:22:34.000 Absolutely.

02:22:34.000 I mean, yeah, that's reasonable though, right?

02:22:36.000 I think. 0.97

02:22:36.000 I mean, it works with Ebola and other shit. 0.97

02:22:39.000 No, not with Ebola. 0.98

02:22:39.000 Yeah, if they can give you birth flu or some shit, or malaria, why can't they give you some HIV? Bro, we used to be inside. 0.98

02:22:44.000 Somebody said you can't get it in your mouth.

02:22:46.000 I thought this was propaganda, but like, you can't get it in your mouth.

02:22:49.000 Well, if someone comes in your mouth?

02:22:50.000 Yeah, you can't get it.

02:22:51.000 Does the magic tell you that?

02:22:51.000 No.

02:22:53.000 What?

02:22:54.000 Free tickets to the movie theater for life?

02:22:56.000 What?

02:22:56.000 What are you talking about, Joe?

02:22:59.000 That would be the line, right?

02:23:01.000 If you got HIV AIDS, like, look, you can't get it.

02:23:02.000 You can't get it.

02:23:03.000 There's no way to get it, though.

02:23:04.000 It's coming in your mouth.

02:23:05.000 It's coming in your mouth.

02:23:06.000 Don't worry.

02:23:10.000 That wouldn't be the line, bro.

02:23:12.000 Oh my god.

02:23:13.000 Did you just put it up?

02:23:15.000 All the mosquitoes are carriers of yellow fever, dengue fever, Japanese encephalitis.

02:23:21.000 There's no evidence that mosquitoes can transmit HIV. Studies with HIV have shown clearly the virus disappears in the mosquito after about one to two days.

02:23:28.000 Yeah, but what if that shit bites you and then bites you? 1.00

02:23:30.000 Right. 1.00

02:23:31.000 Bro, look at that last line.

02:23:32.000 I've never heard it described like that.

02:23:33.000 The time required for the mosquito to digest the blood meal?

02:23:37.000 Ooh.

02:23:38.000 Jesus Christ.

02:23:39.000 You don't even talk about vampires like that.

02:23:41.000 The blood meal.

02:23:42.000 So that means if they get someone who's got HIV and then they get to you within one to two days, doesn't that seem like it would get you?

02:23:50.000 Bro.

02:23:52.000 That's all I'm saying.

02:23:53.000 It's a reasonable thing to ask.

02:23:55.000 These are reasonable things to ask. 0.99

02:23:56.000 I don't have to worry about shit like that. 0.99

02:23:57.000 I'm married. 1.00

02:23:58.000 Well, the real fear is pandemic diseases.

02:24:01.000 I'm out the game. 0.99

02:24:01.000 Yeah, but not for fucking... 0.99

02:24:03.000 We're talking about you're on the beach in Anguilla and some dude with the... 0.99

02:24:05.000 Charlie Sheen's next to you. 0.96

02:24:07.000 Spitting in you. 1.00

02:24:07.000 Spitting in your mouth. 1.00

02:24:08.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:24:09.000 Just some tiger blood.

02:24:11.000 Jesus.

02:24:11.000 Tiger blood!

02:24:12.000 You remember people used to use that?

02:24:14.000 Hashtag tiger blood.

02:24:15.000 Hashtag winning.

02:24:16.000 Yo, Charlie had a moment.

02:24:18.000 He had a moment.

02:24:19.000 H.I.V. killed his moment.

02:24:21.000 That was the thing that killed his moment.

02:24:22.000 That's the only thing we couldn't handle.

02:24:24.000 That was the only thing.

02:24:25.000 That's the only thing. 1.00

02:24:26.000 Before that, he was his fucking guy. 1.00

02:24:27.000 You're not winning anymore, bro. 1.00

02:24:28.000 You got the him. 1.00

02:24:29.000 Yeah, that winning shit don't sound too... 1.00

02:24:31.000 I don't believe you, right? 0.99

02:24:32.000 He's coughing.

02:24:33.000 You know what I mean?

02:24:33.000 You're not winning, bro.

02:24:35.000 Yeah, he was a wild dude.

02:24:36.000 You know what?

02:24:37.000 The difference between Magic and Charlie, I don't think Charlie was ever cool to anybody.

02:24:42.000 Magic was cool to people.

02:24:43.000 Yeah, we wanted to be Magic at some point in our lives.

02:24:47.000 Everybody wanted to be Magic Johnson.

02:24:49.000 What are you showing?

02:24:50.000 His stand-up is that big.

02:24:50.000 That was in 2011. This was when he was on that big thing.

02:24:53.000 But that's the problem.

02:24:54.000 Well, you know what fixed that, though?

02:24:56.000 Russell Peters fixed that.

02:24:57.000 What?

02:24:57.000 How?

02:24:58.000 Russell Peters fixed it because he went with him.

02:25:00.000 So what happened was, Charlie was trying to do it by himself, and really didn't have anything to say, and people would get bored after a while, and they would boo him. 0.99

02:25:07.000 And he was like, oh, fuck you, I have your money, and he's like a bunch of dumb shit, because he tried to do this live tour, but he didn't plan it out. 0.99

02:25:14.000 So then what he did is he brought Russell Peters with him. 1.00

02:25:16.000 So Russell, who's the best at work in the crowd, He could just make something out of nothing.

02:25:22.000 Right. 0.98

02:25:22.000 So Russell just got him to talk, and then Russell would start talking shit and making fun, and someone would say something. 0.98

02:25:29.000 Russell would incorporate that. 0.97

02:25:30.000 Russell treated it like a comedy show and turned it into something that was actually good.

02:25:35.000 I had no clue it was good.

02:25:36.000 So then a bunch of people would go see him live.

02:25:37.000 He should have been working.

02:25:38.000 Well, Russell's there, so it's going to be good because Russell's there.

02:25:41.000 Right.

02:25:41.000 Russell's going to handle it and turn it into funny.

02:25:44.000 So I was going to just do the podcast.

02:25:45.000 Yeah.

02:25:46.000 That's what he should have did.

02:25:47.000 Yeah.

02:25:47.000 When he had all that hype.

02:25:48.000 There was no podcast back then.

02:25:49.000 Nobody cared about podcasts.

02:25:50.000 It was early.

02:25:51.000 He would have some stories, though, dude.

02:25:53.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

02:25:53.000 All those crack stories and the hookers. 0.99

02:25:55.000 If you're willing to tell them, though. 0.92

02:25:56.000 Oh, he'll tell them.

02:25:57.000 He already got AIDS. What's worse?

02:25:59.000 Well, you remember when he was on television, he was talking about just smoking rocks?

02:26:02.000 Yeah.

02:26:03.000 And the people were like, what?

02:26:04.000 Yeah.

02:26:05.000 Like, what are you saying?

02:26:06.000 But did that excite people in 2019?

02:26:08.000 No.

02:26:08.000 Like, we've seen all the crack heads.

02:26:09.000 No, back then it was the right window of time. 1.00

02:26:11.000 It was like him coming through and just being unapologetic about doing drugs, and you don't pay hookers to fuck you, you pay them to leave. 1.00

02:26:19.000 The kind of shit that he was saying. 1.00

02:26:20.000 Everybody was like, what? 1.00

02:26:21.000 It was unapologetic, and that's why it resonated.

02:26:24.000 And that's also why no one could get him with a Me Too thing.

02:26:27.000 It's like, what are you going to say?

02:26:28.000 Of course, he'll tell you what he did.

02:26:29.000 First of all, no woman is going to say they slept with Charlie Sheen.

02:26:32.000 For sure.

02:26:33.000 Maybe he did that to protect him. 1.00

02:26:36.000 Shut the fuck up! 1.00

02:26:38.000 Did he mean mean? 1.00

02:26:39.000 Did he mean mean?

02:26:41.000 If you're about to catch that Me Too, you just go, I got AIDS! And those girls get quiet real quick! 1.00

02:26:48.000 Holy shit! 1.00

02:26:49.000 That's genius! 1.00

02:26:51.000 We just found a way around the system!

02:26:53.000 It might be a cheat code.

02:26:55.000 What if that's what Leo says every time a girl leaves the house? 0.94

02:26:57.000 Oh, by the way...

02:26:59.000 Positive.

02:26:59.000 Oh my god.

02:27:00.000 You're not going to say shit. 1.00

02:27:01.000 Maybe he's just really nice to them. 0.99

02:27:03.000 They like him. 0.99

02:27:03.000 They don't want to fucking throw him under the bus. 0.99

02:27:05.000 Some guys are like that. 0.99

02:27:06.000 Leo's like that.

02:27:07.000 Drake?

02:27:08.000 I don't know about Drake.

02:27:09.000 Derek Jeter?

02:27:10.000 Derek Jeter was giving out gift bags, baby.

02:27:12.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:27:13.000 Can you imagine?

02:27:14.000 Remember when that came out?

02:27:15.000 He was giving signed baseballs.

02:27:17.000 Think about how many guys have gotten a signed baseball from their girlfriend as a gift. 0.99

02:27:22.000 Think about what was going through their heads when they read the post that moment and there's this signed Derek Jeter baseball on their fucking mantle. 1.00

02:27:30.000 Dude! 1.00

02:27:31.000 Your girlfriend blew Derek Jeter! 0.99

02:27:33.000 No, other girls might have, but he was just nice to me.

02:27:36.000 He's a gentleman.

02:27:38.000 You gotta earn that gift back, Joe.

02:27:40.000 You gotta earn it.

02:27:41.000 What Joe's saying is very true, though. 1.00

02:27:42.000 That's why I always say, like, when I see dudes still treating women like shit in 2019, like, fucking them and kicking them out the room, and like, ah, I'm not answering the phone for her. 1.00

02:27:50.000 I'm like, you're wilding. 1.00

02:27:52.000 You should be treating her with the utmost respect and being extremely nice to her, because you just never know.

02:27:58.000 Uber.

02:27:59.000 She's your friend.

02:28:00.000 Uber.

02:28:00.000 Yes.

02:28:01.000 She should be.

02:28:02.000 Yeah, she should be your friend.

02:28:04.000 I don't understand why guys...

02:28:06.000 I say this all the time. 0.99

02:28:08.000 Why do y'all still call them women bitches? 1.00

02:28:10.000 Some of them are bitches. 1.00

02:28:10.000 We have to acknowledge that. 1.00

02:28:11.000 Some of them like it in a positive way. 1.00

02:28:14.000 Like, check this bad bitch out. 1.00

02:28:16.000 Yes, that's okay. 1.00

02:28:17.000 But some of them are just old school bitches. 1.00

02:28:19.000 But there's some bitches where it's like you're saying it in a derogatory way. 1.00

02:28:23.000 You can say it in a positive way, you're laughing about it, or you can say it in a derogatory way. 0.99

02:28:28.000 Yeah.

02:28:28.000 Sometimes I'll say it in a derogatory way.

02:28:30.000 As a man?

02:28:31.000 Yeah.

02:28:31.000 Because I mean it.

02:28:32.000 As a man in 2019, no.

02:28:34.000 What about twat?

02:28:35.000 I've never used that ever. 1.00

02:28:37.000 What about cunt? 1.00

02:28:38.000 Nah, I've never used cunt. 1.00

02:28:39.000 He got in trouble for using the word cunt. 1.00

02:28:40.000 I did? 0.99

02:28:41.000 You got in trouble?

02:28:41.000 Yeah.

02:28:42.000 You didn't get in trouble, you got outraged. 1.00

02:28:44.000 They was on your ass. 1.00

02:28:46.000 These Nicki Minaj fans. 1.00

02:28:48.000 I want to ask you this.

02:28:49.000 First of all, I think what you're doing with YouTube is genius.

02:28:52.000 It's brilliant.

02:28:53.000 You're the first comic to really capitalize on using YouTube.

02:28:57.000 You know, Netflix didn't want to give you a special. 0.99

02:28:58.000 Like, fuck, I don't need you. 0.99

02:28:59.000 Let me do this. 1.00

02:29:00.000 It'll get more views.

02:29:01.000 And it has.

02:29:02.000 And it's been amazing.

02:29:03.000 It's been beautiful to watch.

02:29:05.000 Yeah.

02:29:05.000 But are you experiencing, because of the popularity increase, are you experiencing some pushback on some of your material?

02:29:11.000 Because you go hard.

02:29:12.000 Bro, the weirdest thing?

02:29:13.000 No.

02:29:14.000 It's like we've curated an expectation for it.

02:29:17.000 So the people that are going there are waiting for it.

02:29:20.000 It's not people who got free tickets from the Funny Bones website.

02:29:24.000 They know what you do.

02:29:25.000 They're there for it. 1.00

02:29:26.000 They're there to watch you talk about eating ass. 1.00

02:29:27.000 Eat an ass! 1.00

02:29:28.000 We were just talking about this on the pod the other day. 1.00

02:29:32.000 We were just talking about how privileged you have to be to eat ass. 0.99

02:29:35.000 No, seriously. 0.99

02:29:36.000 Because think about all these third world countries where they can't even eat food. 0.75

02:29:38.000 But we're so full in America. 1.00

02:29:39.000 Dominican Republic, you can't have a fucking cocktail without almost dying. 1.00

02:29:43.000 You think they're eating ass? 1.00

02:29:44.000 In America, we're so full. 1.00

02:29:45.000 We got so many choices that we choose to eat ass when we want to. 1.00

02:29:49.000 For fun! 0.99

02:29:50.000 But bro, I'm telling you, they're not...

02:29:52.000 It's pretty amazing. 0.97

02:29:54.000 They're all leaning into it, and I think that people have had enough with the PC shit, so they really like to see the fact that this is out there. 0.90

02:30:00.000 I mean, we're posting, you know, I'll tell you one thing, the Joe Rogan effect. 0.96

02:30:04.000 We used to do a million views a week on my YouTube channel, and I came on here.

02:30:08.000 Two million now.

02:30:09.000 Wow.

02:30:10.000 Doubled.

02:30:11.000 That's crazy.

02:30:12.000 Doubled.

02:30:12.000 We'll see what happens now.

02:30:13.000 I mean, we'll see.

02:30:14.000 It was nuts, bro.

02:30:15.000 You get the Charlamagne effect in there, too.

02:30:17.000 Well, we do a podcast.

02:30:18.000 I mean, the channel exists because of the Charlamagne effect. 0.90

02:30:21.000 My channel exists because we're putting the Brilliant Idiots videos out every week on the channel. 0.56

02:30:26.000 Without him, that channel doesn't exist. 0.88

02:30:29.000 You two guys, I swear to God, have the biggest influence on the market.

02:30:32.000 He gave me this opportunity to have all these people view, and I was able to put the stuff out, and luckily they liked it.

02:30:37.000 But the same thing happened here.

02:30:39.000 We just doubled up again.

02:30:40.000 It's crazy that it's all dependent upon generosity and being a fan.

02:30:44.000 Because that's what I do.

02:30:45.000 I mean, when I'm talking to a scientist or talking to you, I'm a fan.

02:30:49.000 I'm interested.

02:30:50.000 I'm curious. 1.00

02:30:50.000 And it's not like you're putting on some fuck shit. 1.00

02:30:52.000 Right. 1.00

02:30:53.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:30:53.000 Like, Andrew's funny.

02:30:54.000 He's been funny for years.

02:30:57.000 So now everybody else is actually realizing what we all knew already.

02:31:01.000 Yeah, and the limitations of those platforms putting you on, like Netflix or HBO or something like that, that doesn't exist anymore.

02:31:09.000 And it's not you!

02:31:10.000 You're not playing your whole game.

02:31:12.000 You go get in those systems and they teach you how to just shoot three-pointers.

02:31:16.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

02:31:17.000 Instead of fucking cultivating your whole game. 1.00

02:31:20.000 That's why, you know, Brilliant Idiots, I love Brilliant Idiots. 1.00

02:31:23.000 I try not to promote brilliant idiots. 1.00

02:31:25.000 I know this sounds crazy, right? 1.00

02:31:26.000 No, but go.

02:31:27.000 This is interesting.

02:31:27.000 Go.

02:31:27.000 And the reason I do is because I love our audience.

02:31:30.000 I love that group of people who come to listen to us every week. 0.98

02:31:34.000 They know that we just out here saying some wild shit, not even on purpose, just because we're... 0.95

02:31:40.000 We're trying to get ideas out and we're just talking through things. 0.98

02:31:43.000 It's when you bring those outsiders in who hear you, don't know any context or nothing, take that little piece out of context, give it to the rest of the world.

02:31:51.000 Now the rest of the world is outraged. 0.98

02:31:53.000 We didn't ask y'all to come over here any fucking ways. 0.99

02:31:55.000 Right. 0.99

02:31:56.000 We want to be wild.

02:31:57.000 We want a place for that.

02:31:58.000 Let's talk about that because where do you think that's going?

02:32:01.000 Is outrage culture reached full outrage?

02:32:04.000 It's coming back.

02:32:05.000 We turned it around.

02:32:05.000 I agree.

02:32:07.000 You know what's made me think about that?

02:32:08.000 Two situations in the past two weeks.

02:32:10.000 I can't remember the first one, but the Whoopi Goldberg one from yesterday with Bella Thorne.

02:32:13.000 I didn't hear it.

02:32:14.000 What happened?

02:32:15.000 Bella Thorne, she took some nude pictures. 1.00

02:32:17.000 Somebody was going to expose them, so she just shared them herself first.

02:32:20.000 I think somebody hacked her.

02:32:21.000 I don't know what it was.

02:32:22.000 Somebody hacked her cloud.

02:32:23.000 Somebody hacked her cloud. 0.99

02:32:24.000 They're trying to say, hey, we're going to put this out unless you give us money or some shit. 1.00

02:32:27.000 She's like, fuck it, I'm going to put my own shit on Twitter. 1.00

02:32:29.000 Yeah, so Whoopi Goldberg gets on the view. 1.00

02:32:30.000 Great set of juggernauts.

02:32:33.000 I didn't even see it.

02:32:34.000 Lovely.

02:32:34.000 Whoopi gets on the view and Whoopi goes, look, it's 2019. When you take pictures, they go up to the cloud.

02:32:41.000 Hackers can hack you.

02:32:43.000 So don't take pictures.

02:32:45.000 She was like, it's just common sense.

02:32:46.000 It's not worth it.

02:32:48.000 Just don't take the pictures.

02:32:49.000 Everybody was like, oh, you're victim shaming.

02:32:51.000 But I thought that was what the outrage was going to be.

02:32:54.000 It wasn't. 1.00

02:32:55.000 They were like, oh, shit, Whoopi, you're talking super common sense. 0.99

02:32:57.000 Now, Bella came out and said she was being victim shamed. 1.00

02:32:59.000 But the general public on social media was like, so y'all are mad at Whoopi for talking common sense? 1.00

02:33:04.000 And I was like, oh, shit. 0.99

02:33:05.000 You can't say it's victim shaming if she's correct. 0.99

02:33:08.000 Because we are moving into an era where all information is going to be available to everybody.

02:33:13.000 I think that's going to be a thing that we're going to have to overcome, that privacy is going out the window.

02:33:19.000 It's not going to exist anymore.

02:33:21.000 Our expectations of privacy are so much different than people that lived in our parents' age.

02:33:25.000 Well, our kids, it's going to be even less, and then their kids, non-existent.

02:33:31.000 Joe, they didn't even know FDR was crippled.

02:33:33.000 That's right.

02:33:34.000 FDR was crippled?

02:33:35.000 Yeah.

02:33:36.000 See?

02:33:37.000 They didn't know.

02:33:38.000 He would literally hold himself up at the podium. 0.99

02:33:39.000 I think he got polio or some shit as a kid. 0.98

02:33:41.000 So he was paraplegic. 0.99

02:33:44.000 But the press respected his role as president.

02:33:47.000 And they respected his privacy. 0.98

02:33:49.000 I mean, he had side bitches. 1.00

02:33:50.000 He had all this shit going on. 1.00

02:33:51.000 And he would just stand up at the podium, holding himself up whenever he was talking. 1.00

02:33:55.000 Everything else besides that, they kind of roll him around.

02:33:57.000 But the people didn't know because there wasn't this access.

02:33:59.000 I want us to get back to lying to each other.

02:34:02.000 Oh, talk to me.

02:34:03.000 Because think about it.

02:34:04.000 It used to be a time where you didn't know what somebody's religion was.

02:34:07.000 You didn't know what somebody's political views were.

02:34:11.000 Nobody knew. 0.99

02:34:12.000 You just went, you presented, and you went the fuck home. 0.99

02:34:15.000 I think we need to get back to that. 1.00

02:34:16.000 I think it's too much motherfucking so-called truth out there. 0.99

02:34:19.000 Get back in the closet. 1.00

02:34:21.000 Not just with your gay shit, just whatever. 1.00

02:34:22.000 Just get back to bullshitting each other. 1.00

02:34:24.000 Yeah. 0.55

02:34:24.000 Everybody should just get back to bullshitting each other. 0.55

02:34:27.000 Because guess what?

02:34:27.000 Remember how they used to say, you don't want the truth because you can't handle the truth?

02:34:30.000 That this era, the world cannot handle truth.

02:34:33.000 That's why they want to tell us about UFOs.

02:34:34.000 What?

02:34:36.000 What do you think is happening with UFOs?

02:34:37.000 They won't tell us that UFOs exist. 0.99

02:34:39.000 Because if they told us that UFOs exist, motherfuckers would probably go crazy. 1.00

02:34:43.000 When the reality is we really probably need to know UFOs exist because it would humble the fuck out of everyone. 0.99

02:34:48.000 Well, that's the only time we get along.

02:34:49.000 Right?

02:34:50.000 Like in every movie, right?

02:34:51.000 The only time Russia and China and America get on a conference call is when...

02:34:54.000 The aliens are coming. 1.00

02:34:56.000 Fuck the movies. 1.00

02:34:57.000 Ronald Reagan said that in a speech in the 80s. 1.00

02:34:59.000 Ronald Reagan told Mikhail Gorbachev, why the fuck are we beefing? 0.98

02:35:02.000 Because one day we might have an extraterrestrial threat and then we got to come together. 0.99

02:35:07.000 And everybody was like, what the fuck is Ronald Reagan talking about? 0.97

02:35:09.000 How quickly we would put aside our differences. 0.99

02:35:11.000 We were faced with a threat from an alien world.

02:35:15.000 And everybody was like, what does he know?

02:35:17.000 We're going to find out tonight.

02:35:20.000 So we gonna find out tonight! 0.99

02:35:23.000 By the way, I would respect your prejudice if aliens came and you still held on to whatever the fuck you held on to. 1.00

02:35:29.000 If you still hated black people? 1.00

02:35:30.000 If you were still racist, if you were still homophobic, if you were still transphobic after the aliens came, I'd be like, shit. 1.00

02:35:36.000 No, this is bigger than the alien life. 1.00

02:35:39.000 That's not a girl. 1.00

02:35:40.000 That's a fucking dude in a dress. 1.00

02:35:42.000 Word up. 1.00

02:35:42.000 Men can't get pregnant! 1.00

02:35:43.000 Hold on, ET. Men can't get pregnant! 1.00

02:35:46.000 Oh my god. 0.99

02:35:47.000 I would respect the fuck out of that.

02:35:49.000 I'd be like, okay, alright.

02:35:50.000 That's how you know it's true.

02:35:51.000 That's how you know it's real.

02:35:52.000 That's what's up.

02:35:53.000 Bro, as long as it's real, I really don't have no choice but to respect it.

02:35:57.000 But I think you're right.

02:35:58.000 Joe, I think you're right.

02:35:58.000 I think we're getting to the end of outrage culture.

02:36:01.000 I think it's almost over.

02:36:02.000 We put out a clip this last week of there was this kid in the front row in a wheelchair heckling me.

02:36:06.000 I saw that.

02:36:07.000 Son.

02:36:07.000 That was hilarious.

02:36:09.000 And we went back and forth. 0.99

02:36:10.000 And initially I put it out like, oh fuck, what's going to happen? 0.99

02:36:13.000 Am I going to have these people rolling up to my shows and fucking posters and stuff? 0.99

02:36:16.000 No, you handled it really well. 0.98

02:36:17.000 He was also a special kid.

02:36:19.000 Yeah.

02:36:19.000 He had something.

02:36:20.000 You know how people have it? 0.99

02:36:21.000 You're around people and they just have a fucking... 0.99

02:36:24.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:36:24.000 You know who has it? 1.00

02:36:25.000 Ari.

02:36:26.000 Ari.

02:36:27.000 Ari Shaffir. 0.99

02:36:28.000 He has this fucking, I don't know, there's something that I just, when I'm around him, I just like him. 1.00

02:36:32.000 I just kind of want him to tell me his opinions on shit. 0.99

02:36:34.000 You just ask him, how do you feel about, yeah, but he's like, how do you feel about carpets? 1.00

02:36:37.000 And he'll just fucking tell you. 0.97

02:36:38.000 He'll be like, I'm done with him, whatever. 0.98

02:36:40.000 So it's like, he just had this thing, and he had such positive energy, and I'm making fun of a guy for fucking being in a wheelchair, and he's making fun of me for having a shitty upper body, and like, literally, I go to him, I was like, I said, you know, your upper body's pretty good, and he goes, what's your excuse? 0.91

02:36:54.000 Like, quick! 0.91

02:36:56.000 Quick! 1.00

02:36:56.000 And we have this moment and no backlash. 1.00

02:36:59.000 Here's the thing.

02:37:00.000 It was cool.

02:37:01.000 No backlash should matter except for the guy in the wheelchair. 0.72

02:37:04.000 Right. 0.99

02:37:04.000 If everybody else is like, oh, why the fuck are you picking on him? 0.99

02:37:07.000 If the guy in the wheelchair don't care and the guy in the wheelchair is going back and forth, why the fuck are you jumping in this? 0.99

02:37:12.000 It's never people that have it. 0.80

02:37:13.000 Never.

02:37:13.000 It's always parents of people that have things.

02:37:16.000 Like when there was this person had a seizure in one of my videos.

02:37:19.000 Everybody who had seizures was cool with it.

02:37:21.000 It was always a parent of a kid who had a seizure who was like, my son suffers from, how dare you?

02:37:26.000 Put a clip up like that.

02:37:27.000 So it's always offense on behalf of.

02:37:29.000 Because I really think that people who suffer for things, they went through way harder things than a joke.

02:37:34.000 Yeah.

02:37:34.000 And they actually like that they're being spoken to as a regular person in the audience, not babied like every other part of their life.

02:37:41.000 Can I get the door for you?

02:37:42.000 Yeah.

02:37:43.000 It's like, all right, for the first time, I'm in it.

02:37:45.000 I don't post, I won't post or like make jokes or talk shit about something that I wouldn't want to happen to me or somebody I love though.

02:37:53.000 Right.

02:37:53.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:37:54.000 There's gotta be stuff I can handle.

02:37:56.000 Right.

02:37:56.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:37:57.000 Yeah.

02:37:57.000 Like HIV, AIDS, I don't want it.

02:38:00.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

02:38:02.000 You got that shit? 1.00

02:38:03.000 You can handle it? 1.00

02:38:04.000 I wouldn't trip, you know what I'm saying?

02:38:06.000 If I got it, I wouldn't trip too hard.

02:38:09.000 You know what I mean?

02:38:10.000 It's not what we used to think it was, so it's a different thing.

02:38:13.000 Yeah.

02:38:14.000 Yeah.

02:38:14.000 Do you know what bug catchers are?

02:38:16.000 Yeah.

02:38:16.000 What's a bug catcher?

02:38:17.000 People who go around fucking people who have those diseases. 0.99

02:38:18.000 They try to get it? 1.00

02:38:19.000 Yeah.

02:38:19.000 There's a bunch of guys in the gay community that were trying to get HIV. You never heard of that?

02:38:23.000 Yeah.

02:38:23.000 They're bug catchers.

02:38:24.000 That shit makes my skin crawl. 1.00

02:38:25.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:38:26.000 Hold on.

02:38:26.000 Self-loathing people that wanted to get HIV. And this was back in the day where it was a death sentence.

02:38:30.000 There was a lot of guys that were doing that.

02:38:32.000 Hold on.

02:38:33.000 Their goal?

02:38:35.000 Their goal.

02:38:35.000 Yeah, they would put out ads like Craigslist looking for HIV positive guys to give me the bug.

02:38:41.000 This is why cults happen because people need to be part of something.

02:38:44.000 It's like in them.

02:38:45.000 Some people are just broken.

02:38:48.000 Exactly, because I heard about that 20 years ago, and I thought that was crazy, but now that I'm thinking about it, I'm like, what was their life like?

02:38:54.000 I need to know what their life was like.

02:38:56.000 If they had something to lose, if they was actually successful, would they be doing that?

02:39:01.000 I need to know what kind of people were out there trying to catch this bug.

02:39:05.000 There's every step in the spectrum of crazy. 0.99

02:39:09.000 You think about it, and there's a whole fucking category of people that are doing that. 0.97

02:39:13.000 So bug catching was one of them. 0.97

02:39:15.000 It was a big thing where guys were actively going out and trying and guys who had HIV were trying to go give it to people.

02:39:23.000 That's why the thing with karma, I don't even necessarily believe in karma anymore because every day of our life, we're trying to avoid crazy, right?

02:39:31.000 Yeah.

02:39:32.000 But you can't.

02:39:33.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

02:39:33.000 When a guy comes in with a gun and he shoots up a motherfucking school, what are we supposed to do? 0.99

02:39:39.000 We didn't do anything to cause that, but he's got something going on with his life that caused him to snap and it affected us. 0.99

02:39:46.000 If you're walking down the street and a guy's just angry about something, he bumps into you and you're like, oh, excuse me.

02:39:51.000 He's like, what the fuck do you mean excuse me? 0.73

02:39:52.000 And he's ready to fight. 0.97

02:39:53.000 That don't got nothing to do with you.

02:39:54.000 That's got everything to do with him. 0.61

02:39:56.000 So you really can't avoid this crazy.

02:39:58.000 I had a conversation with someone and they were talking about everything in your life you've manifested and created.

02:40:03.000 I go, okay, explain babies who get shot and drive by. 1.00

02:40:06.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:40:07.000 There's random things that happen. 1.00

02:40:09.000 Kids get leukemia.

02:40:10.000 What, would they do something bad?

02:40:11.000 Come on. 1.00

02:40:12.000 Shit's bigger than you. 1.00

02:40:14.000 That's the thing that people hate to hear. 1.00

02:40:15.000 We are a very small part of this big fucking ecosystem. 0.96

02:40:19.000 We really think that everything in our life is that important that it could affect the world. 1.00

02:40:23.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99

02:40:25.000 Sometimes... 0.99

02:40:25.000 There's too many random factors. 0.99

02:40:26.000 Why?

02:40:26.000 Because, you know, you think about the secret, like the law of attraction.

02:40:29.000 Your thoughts become things.

02:40:30.000 I think the thing that we forget about that is not only do our...

02:40:33.000 It's not just our thoughts.

02:40:34.000 It's our actions.

02:40:35.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:40:36.000 It's not like you're just sitting around.

02:40:37.000 You didn't sit around and think about doing this. 0.99

02:40:40.000 You're actually putting some fucking work. 0.98

02:40:42.000 That's the difference between the secret and reality, is that people think that you think things into existence, but no. 0.99

02:40:48.000 When you're successful, people say, what did you do?

02:40:51.000 Well, I thought this into existence.

02:40:53.000 Show me how you did that. 0.98

02:40:54.000 Well, I got up every morning at 6 a.m., and I fucking hustled to the gym, and then I wrote jokes all day. 0.97

02:40:59.000 There you go. 1.00

02:40:59.000 Okay, listen, bitch. 1.00

02:41:00.000 You did this. 1.00

02:41:00.000 You put in the work. 1.00

02:41:01.000 You put in the work.

02:41:03.000 It's like literally if somebody says to you, hey, one day you're going to win the lottery.

02:41:06.000 So you just sit at home all day waiting to win the lottery. 0.99

02:41:11.000 Get up and go to the fucking store and buy a Powerball ticket. 1.00

02:41:13.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

02:41:14.000 I think Chappelle had that joke.

02:41:15.000 He's like, you don't think they're starving kids in Africa thinking about food?

02:41:18.000 Right.

02:41:19.000 They ain't thinking about a nice roast beef sandwich.

02:41:22.000 It ain't coming.

02:41:23.000 Exactly.

02:41:24.000 Now don't get me wrong, there's plenty of things that I've thought about that I've manifested, but like you said, I took the steps to go put in the work.

02:41:30.000 You focused.

02:41:31.000 There's a process.

02:41:32.000 Discipline.

02:41:32.000 I got this theory called putting the weed in the bag, you know what I'm saying?

02:41:35.000 And it came from the movie Belly because Nas and DMX were sitting at this table with these two young kids and they were bagging up the weed and all the kids were like, I want to go out there and get money with y'all.

02:41:43.000 I want to go out there and get money.

02:41:44.000 And DMX was like, put the weed in the bag first, then go out there and get money.

02:41:47.000 You have to go through the process.

02:41:49.000 So it can start with a thought, but you still got to execute. 1.00

02:41:53.000 Put some fucking work in! 1.00

02:41:54.000 I remember I was talking to this girl. 0.99

02:41:56.000 She was a friend of a friend of mine, and she was telling me how I found the secret, and my life is going to be amazing now, and I'm going to get married, and I'm going to meet the right man, and everybody's like, okay.

02:42:07.000 And then I ran into her like a year later.

02:42:09.000 She came to one of my comedy shows, and I'm like, how's everything going?

02:42:12.000 She's like, I don't get it.

02:42:13.000 I've been using the secret, but my life is a mess.

02:42:16.000 My father's in jail. 0.99

02:42:18.000 My fucking Everything was chaos. 0.99

02:42:21.000 She was a sweetheart of a person, but she really believed that her life was going to transform. 0.99

02:42:26.000 I'll never forget the juxtaposition of those two conversations.

02:42:29.000 That's why the positions that were in media, you have to be very responsible with these positions.

02:42:35.000 Malcolm X said that.

02:42:36.000 Malcolm X said, the person who controls the media controls the minds of the masses.

02:42:39.000 So you have to be very, very responsible.

02:42:41.000 I remember when you used to get a lot of flack for putting on just different voices that people didn't agree with.

02:42:47.000 Yeah, still do.

02:42:47.000 And they'd be like, why are you giving these people a platform?

02:42:50.000 I'm like, yo, everybody deserves to be heard.

02:42:53.000 I guess.

02:42:54.000 Not everybody, but I want to know how people think, too.

02:42:58.000 Even if I don't agree with them.

02:43:00.000 Especially people you don't agree with.

02:43:01.000 A conversation isn't a cosign.

02:43:02.000 And I think that's what we often mistake.

02:43:05.000 Well, in this day and age, too, especially on the left, so many people are talking about deplatforming.

02:43:10.000 They want to de-platform people.

02:43:12.000 I don't like that.

02:43:13.000 I don't like that.

02:43:15.000 I don't like it either.

02:43:15.000 I saw people getting mad at LeVar Ball this week.

02:43:17.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:43:18.000 Because of the comments he made to Molly on ESPN, which I didn't...

02:43:21.000 What did he say?

02:43:22.000 She was like, hey, let's shift gears.

02:43:24.000 And he's like, you can shift gears with me anytime.

02:43:26.000 But he didn't, he said it just like that.

02:43:28.000 You can shift gears to me anytime.

02:43:29.000 He didn't say, he didn't whisper, you can shift gears to me anytime.

02:43:31.000 It was a placeholder.

02:43:32.000 If she had said, hey, let's switch it up, he would say, hey, you can switch it up with me anytime.

02:43:36.000 That's all it was.

02:43:38.000 But every, people was like, oh, they need to stop putting them on ESPN. I'm like, wait a minute.

02:43:41.000 Calm down.

02:43:42.000 Literally just last year, y'all were saying he was the drunk uncle at the picnic and you love him or you hate him.

02:43:47.000 He's good entertainment.

02:43:48.000 But now because he said that, you want to take him off?

02:43:50.000 And I'm like, we got to stop doing that.

02:43:52.000 Because guess what?

02:43:53.000 Every single one of us is going to say something that is going to offend somebody at some point in time.

02:43:58.000 That doesn't mean that we shouldn't have a platform.

02:44:00.000 I'm not calling for nobody to get killed. 1.00

02:44:02.000 It also makes things fun when people say stupid shit sometimes. 1.00

02:44:06.000 You know, when Stephen Smith was going off about Andrew Ruiz winning the title and about how it looked like Butterbean, this is a disgrace. 1.00

02:44:12.000 I'm like, the guy is speaking the way he would speak if you were around him.

02:44:16.000 You gotta appreciate that. 0.54

02:44:18.000 Unless you want everybody to be Ryan Seacrest, you should fucking appreciate, not that there's anything wrong with Ryan Seacrest, but you should appreciate someone who's just giving you what they really think. 0.68

02:44:26.000 Yeah. 0.89

02:44:27.000 And we do.

02:44:27.000 That's why he's so popular.

02:44:28.000 We pretend to hate it, but the reality is we're going to keep listening.

02:44:32.000 There's outrage, but there's also attention.

02:44:34.000 A lot of people are like, oh, alright. 1.00

02:44:36.000 America feeds off of that shit. 1.00

02:44:37.000 That's why Donald Trump is president. 1.00

02:44:39.000 That's why the Kardashians are still viable. 1.00

02:44:41.000 That's why the Kardashians are the first family of fucking America. 1.00

02:44:43.000 There's drama every year. 1.00

02:44:44.000 Every year they find a new piece of drama. 0.99

02:44:46.000 Once shit gets calm and cool, the show ends. 0.98

02:44:49.000 So they need a new piece of drama. 0.99

02:44:51.000 Oh, you got cheated on this year?

02:44:52.000 Who's gonna have a baby? 1.00

02:44:53.000 You gonna be the baby?

02:44:54.000 But whatever it is, every year... 1.00

02:44:56.000 Hey, you gonna chop your dick off? 1.00

02:44:57.000 Every year. 1.00

02:44:58.000 But you know what I respect her for with Kim?

02:45:00.000 She's getting people out of jail. 1.00

02:45:02.000 She's going for it, bro.

02:45:03.000 Legitimately.

02:45:03.000 I can go back before that.

02:45:04.000 I respect the Kardashians because if we really, really pay attention to the Kardashians over the past 10 years...

02:45:09.000 First of all, you gotta put them up there with some of the greatest dynasties of all time. 0.99

02:45:11.000 I'm talking about this is Lakers, this is Patriots, this is fucking... 0.99

02:45:14.000 They've made billions. 1.00

02:45:15.000 Yes.

02:45:16.000 Billions with a B. So many social conversations have started because of the Kardashians.

02:45:22.000 You're talking about interracial relationships.

02:45:24.000 You're talking about the transgender thing. 0.53

02:45:27.000 You're talking about drug use, mental health with Kanye. 0.90

02:45:31.000 You have plastic surgery.

02:45:32.000 They did change the shape of American women. 1.00

02:45:35.000 They changed asses. 0.99

02:45:36.000 Globally. 1.00

02:45:36.000 They changed asses. 1.00

02:45:38.000 They made that whole fat relocation thing popular. 1.00

02:45:41.000 They suck it out of your waist, turn your waist into this little thing, and turn your ass into this ridiculous platform. 1.00

02:45:46.000 Well, let's be real. 1.00

02:45:47.000 Kim learned that from black women, though. 1.00

02:45:49.000 People forget kimchi.

02:45:50.000 But that's a bio...

02:45:51.000 When you would look at someone who really has it, it's different.

02:45:55.000 Absolutely. 1.00

02:45:56.000 You would see a woman who has a big ass naturally. 1.00

02:45:59.000 It looks like it belongs on her. 1.00

02:46:01.000 It's a different thing.

02:46:03.000 They have thick legs. 0.99

02:46:05.000 They're fucking genetically superior. 1.00

02:46:08.000 They're built like a turkey. 1.00

02:46:08.000 They're built sexy. 1.00

02:46:10.000 Yeah, Kim's inspiration, people don't remember, Kim came up in the black circuit.

02:46:15.000 She did King Magazine and Smooth Magazine.

02:46:18.000 That's right, that's right.

02:46:19.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:46:20.000 Like she was on Wendy Williams' radio show earlier.

02:46:23.000 That's what I met her.

02:46:23.000 I met her when I was doing radio with Wendy.

02:46:25.000 He knew her before she was ever on anything.

02:46:27.000 When she was, who's assistant?

02:46:28.000 Someone's assistant, right?

02:46:29.000 She was Paris Hilton.

02:46:30.000 No, she used to organize closets for Paris Hilton. 0.99

02:46:33.000 I got an old picture of me and Kim from 2006. Yeah, she looks so different.

02:46:37.000 Wow.

02:46:38.000 But, I will say, she always had that vision.

02:46:42.000 She used to always say, I'm going to do what Paris is doing times a hundred.

02:46:46.000 Wow.

02:46:47.000 She did it. 1.00

02:46:48.000 She motherfucking did it. 1.00

02:46:50.000 The secret. 1.00

02:46:50.000 She used the secret. 1.00

02:46:51.000 The secret is black dick. 1.00

02:46:53.000 That's the secret. 1.00

02:46:55.000 Smoke a black cock. 1.00

02:46:57.000 It's amazing that that kicked her off because it used to be the kiss of death of a girl who did porn. 1.00

02:47:01.000 That was the end. 0.66

02:47:02.000 Lisa Ann.

02:47:03.000 Yeah.

02:47:03.000 She was the one to break that down.

02:47:05.000 Well, was it her or Jenna Jameson?

02:47:07.000 I think Jenna Jameson was the first one to become actually popular outside of porn. 1.00

02:47:11.000 Oh, I thought you meant the first person to break the racial barrier in porn on purpose.

02:47:15.000 Oh, yeah.

02:47:15.000 She was the first to break the racial, but I mean doing porn, period.

02:47:19.000 Oh, yeah, where you could be a celeb outside of porn. 0.94

02:47:22.000 You talk about radio, it's not too many people that came up off celebrity sex tapes. 0.91

02:47:26.000 It's only few and far between that really popped off.

02:47:29.000 Yeah, who made it off a sex tape? 1.00

02:47:31.000 Do you remember when girls were showing their pussy? 1.00

02:47:33.000 They were showing their pussy on purpose? 1.00

02:47:35.000 Remember when they would get out of cars? 1.00

02:47:37.000 And the camera just happened to be down where their pussy is? 1.00

02:47:41.000 How the fuck did you not know that camera was down near your pussy? 1.00

02:47:44.000 They set that up. 1.00

02:47:46.000 That was a move.

02:47:47.000 That's a lot of confidence. 1.00

02:47:48.000 They were climbing out of their cars showing their pussy. 1.00

02:47:51.000 Not a lot of witch fingers, Joe. 1.00

02:47:53.000 What is happening?

02:47:55.000 That's all the more reason you gotta respect Kim K, bro. 1.00

02:48:01.000 That girl that was hopping out of cars and you could see her vagina and was doing sex tapes is out here getting prisoners free. 1.00

02:48:07.000 She is doing that. 1.00

02:48:07.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

02:48:08.000 I don't give a fuck if she's best friends with Donald Trump. 1.00

02:48:11.000 That's my thing, right? 0.98

02:48:12.000 If you care about prison reform, you care about criminal justice reform, you should be happy that these people are getting out.

02:48:18.000 Worried about, oh, she's doing it in the White House with Donald Trump. 1.00

02:48:22.000 Who gives a shit? 1.00

02:48:23.000 You think the guy who just did 15 years for nothing cares what president let him out? 0.99

02:48:28.000 And she doesn't have to do this.

02:48:30.000 She could just be buying cars and getting her nails done. 1.00

02:48:33.000 She's choosing to spend her time to get these people that are unjustly accused and convicted and get them released.

02:48:41.000 And Trump...

02:48:43.000 Like him or not, he's listening to her and he's helping her.

02:48:45.000 But you know why?

02:48:46.000 Because he's a celebrity.

02:48:47.000 He understands the PR angle, yeah.

02:48:48.000 So you keep sending all these politicians to talk to a celebrity. 1.00

02:48:51.000 That shit goes over his head. 1.00

02:48:53.000 You've got to send another celebrity to get in his ear because he understands that type of language. 1.00

02:48:58.000 He just understands their power.

02:48:59.000 He understands where their reach is.

02:49:01.000 He knows that Kim K doing something is way more valuable than some random Democratic congressperson. 0.93

02:49:06.000 Well, you're seeing that so much now.

02:49:07.000 You look at Capitol Hill the past few weeks.

02:49:09.000 You see, you know, I was there.

02:49:11.000 Me, T.I., and David Gross was there talking about opportunities on legislation.

02:49:14.000 I was there with Taraji talking about bringing social-emotional learning in schools and therapy.

02:49:18.000 You had Ta-Nehisi Coates and Danny Glover was there this week talking about HR-40.

02:49:23.000 You had Jon Stewart there talking about the victims of 9-11 needing to be compensated.

02:49:27.000 That was, yeah.

02:49:29.000 I didn't even know that was going on.

02:49:30.000 If Jon Stewart hadn't have done that, I would have never even known that was going on. 0.99

02:49:34.000 And that is fucked up. 0.99

02:49:35.000 And it was a simple statement. 0.99

02:49:37.000 The people you said you would never forget, you forgot.

02:49:40.000 That's not going over nobody's head.

02:49:42.000 Anybody can get that. 1.00

02:49:43.000 You can be with no teeth sitting in fucking South Carolina in a trailer park. 1.00

02:49:45.000 You understand that language. 0.99

02:49:47.000 And again, Jon Stewart doesn't have to do that.

02:49:48.000 He doesn't have to do that because he needs to.

02:49:50.000 It's in him.

02:49:51.000 It gives you a different sense of purpose.

02:49:53.000 Yeah.

02:49:54.000 Like, that's what really means something.

02:49:55.000 When you talk to me about talking about anxiety and mental health, like, the past couple years, I feel like I've been walking in my purpose. 0.52

02:50:01.000 You know, because I truly feel like if we can get more people to deal with their mental health issues, you'll reduce so much of the other bullshit we complaining about in America.

02:50:10.000 The violence, the gun shootings, because when you got a bunch of people who have never dealt with their trauma, never dealt with their pain and their hurt, Hurt people, hurt people. 0.94

02:50:19.000 And all we do is go around redistributing that pain to others. 0.99

02:50:21.000 You think murderers and rapists do that shit because it's for the thrill of it? 1.00

02:50:24.000 No, they are broken, damaged people. 1.00

02:50:26.000 So they go and break and damage other people.

02:50:29.000 So if you can get people to deal with their mental health issues, man, that's the foundation of it all to me.

02:50:33.000 That's the real secret. 1.00

02:50:35.000 Getting to the root of that shit. 0.99

02:50:37.000 Yeah, there is a thing about purpose that like, what happens I think when some people reach financial independence, and I mean like fuck you money, meaning like you don't have to work anymore, your family, everything is good. 0.99

02:50:48.000 You have, some people go, well I'm going to get even more money and I'm going to become a billionaire and a trillionaire or whatever.

02:50:53.000 And then some people go, I'm going to live life instead of survive it.

02:50:57.000 If you're working every week so you can get a paycheck, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that because the majority of people, but you are surviving.

02:51:03.000 Yes.

02:51:04.000 That job is no different than being out there in the forest trying to find some food so you can eat and get some shelter.

02:51:09.000 You get financial dependence.

02:51:11.000 You have the opportunity to truly do whatever you want every single day of your life.

02:51:15.000 Yes.

02:51:15.000 And some people go, you know what I want to do?

02:51:18.000 I want to go to fucking D.C. and help out with these causes. 0.88

02:51:22.000 Or I want to put on a whole comedy community. 0.98

02:51:26.000 You know what I mean?

02:51:27.000 And you really put it on your back.

02:51:28.000 I want to help other people out. 1.00

02:51:30.000 I want to have these conversations and just talk shit about fucking magic, having HIV, whatever it is. 0.99

02:51:34.000 We're actually choosing to do the things that we enjoy. 1.00

02:51:38.000 Because you realize what's important.

02:51:39.000 Like even when you're talking about something like opportunities on legislation, I feel like that goes hand in hand with mental health because environment is so important.

02:51:45.000 So if you can, you know, get into these communities, these poor and disenfranchised areas, and you can start putting things in these communities that people actually need, like in the hood.

02:51:53.000 You replace the liquor stores and the fucking chicken spots and the check cashing places with juice bars and mental health spas and wellness centers, things that people actually need. 0.94

02:52:05.000 Now you're creating an environment where people can thrive in instead of just trying to fucking survive in. 0.98

02:52:09.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

02:52:10.000 You can't properly deal with your mental health if you're trying to survive every fucking day. 0.99

02:52:13.000 Well, I think what you're doing that's very important is you're bringing up that conversation. 0.98

02:52:17.000 That conversation wasn't taking place before.

02:52:19.000 The mental health conversation about anxiety amongst cool, successful people, it just wasn't happening.

02:52:24.000 Everybody was pretending.

02:52:26.000 Everybody was, they're hiding from it.

02:52:28.000 You keep it secret. 1.00

02:52:29.000 Like, you got the float tank in your fucking compound. 1.00

02:52:31.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:52:32.000 Are you telling people about that?

02:52:33.000 Oh, yeah.

02:52:34.000 Oh, okay.

02:52:35.000 I'm one of the reasons why that thing became popular again.

02:52:38.000 I got one in 2002. Wow!

02:52:41.000 Yeah.

02:52:41.000 I just did it for the first time like three weeks ago.

02:52:43.000 Yeah, man.

02:52:43.000 If you go to some float places, they'll ask you how you found out about it.

02:52:46.000 It's like, did you find out from the internet, Yelp?

02:52:48.000 And then they'll say Joe Rogan.

02:52:50.000 Wow.

02:52:51.000 Because I talk about it so much as videos.

02:52:53.000 I mean, I gave one away.

02:52:54.000 I had bought a new one, and I said, I'm going to give one away.

02:52:57.000 And I just got random emails, and I picked one of them.

02:53:00.000 Had it sent to this guy's house.

02:53:01.000 Had it set up.

02:53:02.000 Just because I wanted people to know about what these things are.

02:53:04.000 I've never felt stillness like I've felt inside a float table.

02:53:08.000 Yeah, it's amazing. 0.68

02:53:09.000 And it's like, you know, at first, you're like, okay, they want you to get butt naked.

02:53:11.000 You don't know if they're recording you. 0.99

02:53:12.000 You don't know what the fuck's going on. 0.99

02:53:13.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

02:53:14.000 And then they're like, nah, it's completely dark. 1.00

02:53:15.000 You've got a lot of confidence in your cock, bro. 1.00

02:53:17.000 I wasn't even swinging that day. 1.00

02:53:19.000 I'm a girl and not a show. 1.00

02:53:20.000 My shit is like... 1.00

02:53:21.000 I wasn't swinging that day. 1.00

02:53:22.000 No, I wasn't.

02:53:23.000 I actually was trying to make it a little chubby.

02:53:25.000 It was a Thursday, bro.

02:53:25.000 I can't be swinging.

02:53:26.000 I actually was trying to make it a little chubby just in case.

02:53:28.000 You can't trust these people.

02:53:29.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:53:30.000 Motherfucker might be recording me in this shit. 1.00

02:53:32.000 So the lights went off and it's like when you first get in, It's allowing yourself to relax. 1.00

02:53:38.000 Because at first you're fighting it a little bit.

02:53:39.000 You got your head up.

02:53:40.000 You're like, I don't know if I'm going to drown. 0.99

02:53:41.000 But when you finally just relax, you don't even know where the fucking hour went. 0.96

02:53:45.000 And I've never experienced a level of stillness like that. 0.95

02:53:48.000 It was periods where I thought I was actually...

02:53:50.000 I'm like, am I alive right now?

02:53:52.000 Right.

02:53:53.000 Because your eyes are open.

02:53:54.000 But it's totally dark.

02:53:55.000 It's totally dark.

02:53:56.000 So you don't know if you're really asleep.

02:53:57.000 And you don't feel the water.

02:53:59.000 You don't feel the water.

02:53:59.000 You don't know if you're in and out of consciousness.

02:54:02.000 It's wild.

02:54:03.000 Everybody should do flow therapy.

02:54:05.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:54:06.000 Guys, what is the hardest part about having influence?

02:54:16.000 That's a nice pregnant pause.

02:54:18.000 That was dope, right?

02:54:19.000 Yeah.

02:54:20.000 And then the clock was going like you just...

02:54:21.000 You heard that clock! 1.00

02:54:22.000 You heard that shit! 1.00

02:54:24.000 That was awesome! 1.00

02:54:25.000 That was me switching the cameras.

02:54:27.000 Oh, the camera's switching.

02:54:28.000 Well-timed.

02:54:29.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:54:30.000 What's the hardest?

02:54:31.000 I don't think about it that way.

02:54:32.000 I think you're very...

02:54:33.000 There's very few people that have the opportunity to have the kind of influence that you or I have.

02:54:39.000 Yeah.

02:54:40.000 Or you.

02:54:42.000 It's very, very strange.

02:54:44.000 I think...

02:54:46.000 You've got to realize what harm you can do.

02:54:48.000 You've got to be careful in the kind of things you say, the kind of things you promote, the kind of things that you sign off on or agree to. 0.61

02:54:56.000 And I think there's also a responsibility to tell people about cool shit, tell people about things that have benefited you, to help people about how you've overcome your own personal mistakes.

02:55:05.000 I think all those things are very important. 0.91

02:55:07.000 Yeah, I never even thought about having influence until like the past three, four years.

02:55:12.000 Because, you know, I'm just out here doing my thing.

02:55:14.000 Just doing it, yeah.

02:55:15.000 But then when you realize you are having influence, and a lot of that influence could be negative, that's when you realize like... 1.00

02:55:25.000 Oh, shit. 0.97

02:55:26.000 Let me make sure I'm doing the right things with these platforms. 0.99

02:55:30.000 Let me make sure I'm bringing on the right voices that people can learn from.

02:55:34.000 Let me make sure I'm telling people about the things in my life that are making me a better person.

02:55:38.000 So for me, it's like the best compliment I get nowadays when people say, man, you've really grown.

02:55:42.000 You've really evolved.

02:55:44.000 It's visible.

02:55:45.000 People can see it.

02:55:46.000 That right there lets me know I'm putting out the right energy into the ecosystem.

02:55:50.000 Yeah, and also people become inspired to seek that same kind of path.

02:55:54.000 When someone in the public eye like yourself and they see you grow and expand and change your views on things, it also inspires other people to open up themselves and change their own perspective and enhance their own way of looking at the world.

02:56:08.000 Yeah, I can admit when I'm wrong. 0.99

02:56:09.000 I've said a lot of fucked up wild shit. 0.99

02:56:13.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

02:56:14.000 You're going live on the air.

02:56:16.000 You're not reading a script.

02:56:18.000 You're freeballing.

02:56:19.000 It's gonna happen.

02:56:20.000 And I think the worst thing that can happen too is like for me, Breakfast Club has only been going on for nine years.

02:56:25.000 So I never had experienced this level of attention.

02:56:28.000 And you start reading things about yourself in the media.

02:56:31.000 Like you read real articles.

02:56:32.000 You're like, oh, the hip-hop Howard Stern.

02:56:34.000 And I'm like...

02:56:35.000 Oh, so I gotta be like Howard? 1.00

02:56:37.000 So I gotta give him more of that shit? 1.00

02:56:38.000 So, what Howard though? 1.00

02:56:40.000 Right.

02:56:41.000 Because I'm giving him a little bit of 90s Howard. 0.99

02:56:43.000 That's what I'm fucked with. 1.00

02:56:44.000 What Howard do y'all fuck with? 1.00

02:56:46.000 Right, right. 1.00

02:56:46.000 You know? 1.00

02:56:46.000 So it's just like, you can get caught up in that. 1.00

02:56:49.000 Yeah.

02:56:49.000 You know?

02:56:50.000 You could get caught up in what people's expectations of you are.

02:56:53.000 Yes.

02:56:53.000 You change who you are.

02:56:54.000 You know, a lot of people say that happens to certain comedians.

02:56:57.000 They become their character.

02:56:59.000 Dice.

02:57:00.000 Yeah.

02:57:00.000 I was gonna bring that up.

02:57:01.000 His name's Andrew Silverstein.

02:57:02.000 Yeah.

02:57:02.000 The Dice Man was a character.

02:57:18.000 I went toe-to-toe with dice one time.

02:57:20.000 Toe to toe?

02:57:21.000 Yeah, on Wendy Williams' show back in the day when I was Wendy's sidekick.

02:57:24.000 And, you know, VH1, Wendy had a show on VH1 and Andrew Dice Clay had a show on VH1, so they brought him on to promote it.

02:57:29.000 And, like, we just ended up going. 0.94

02:57:31.000 I don't know why the fuck we ended up going. 0.99

02:57:32.000 Snapping on each other? 0.99

02:57:33.000 Yes. 0.84

02:57:34.000 And, like, VH1 edited it to make it look like he, like, kind of fucked me up, but they kept a couple of mine in. 0.52

02:57:40.000 He was really upset.

02:57:41.000 Like, I called him. 0.98

02:57:42.000 I said, you're like a fat Fonzie. 0.99

02:57:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:57:46.000 And he fucking lost it. 1.00

02:57:49.000 He was like, who the fuck are you? 1.00

02:57:51.000 You fucking carry one of these bads for a fucking living. 1.00

02:57:54.000 And I'm like, oh shit. 1.00

02:57:55.000 It's on, I got you. 1.00

02:57:56.000 It's on.

02:57:57.000 I was like, you're supposed to be able to laugh at that.

02:58:00.000 I thought it was funny.

02:58:01.000 I wouldn't be able to laugh at that. 1.00

02:58:02.000 If I looked like a fat Fonzie, I'd be like, oh shit. 1.00

02:58:05.000 Damn. 1.00

02:58:06.000 You'd have to go, damn. 1.00

02:58:08.000 I was on his ass. 1.00

02:58:09.000 I told him he was like a discontinued Terminator model. 1.00

02:58:12.000 Remember the Terminator? 0.99

02:58:14.000 That shit was interesting. 0.99

02:58:15.000 But what you said is real, because I never want to become a caricature of myself. 0.99

02:58:21.000 And I feel like it was a certain point in my life where I was becoming a caricature of myself.

02:58:26.000 And it's like, that's not real.

02:58:27.000 You can't claim to be a real person.

02:58:30.000 And be out here pretending to be real.

02:58:31.000 You're either real or you're not.

02:58:33.000 And what's real is, yo, being honest about going to a therapist.

02:58:37.000 What's real is being honest about your mental health issues.

02:58:39.000 What's real is talking about being a father. 1.00

02:58:42.000 Real shit. 1.00

02:58:44.000 You can't always try to be cool. 1.00

02:58:46.000 Yeah.

02:58:47.000 That's not cool.

02:58:47.000 That's fake.

02:58:48.000 It's fake.

02:58:49.000 And that only existed when there was like some sort of a...

02:58:51.000 You're projecting something.

02:58:54.000 You're putting something out there in these small bits.

02:58:56.000 When you're doing what you do and you're talking for hours and hours on...

02:58:59.000 You've got to be you.

02:59:00.000 At the end of the day, it's going to come out whether you like it or not.

02:59:02.000 There's nothing else.

02:59:03.000 There's no other options.

02:59:03.000 And the people with the longest careers, I feel like, are the people who evolve over time.

02:59:08.000 Boom.

02:59:09.000 Yeah.

02:59:09.000 You could see the guys...

02:59:11.000 Who have real growth.

02:59:12.000 Like Howard Stern, in the beginning, when we really think about Howard, like, chicks were queefing on speakers. 0.98

02:59:18.000 Oh, yeah.

02:59:18.000 That was a normal thing in a Howard Stern radio show, is come in, who has the loudest queef on the speaker?

02:59:25.000 They're lucky that Tiffany Haddish wasn't around back then.

02:59:28.000 Because it wouldn't be over. 1.00

02:59:30.000 She sticks that microphone in her pussy. 1.00

02:59:31.000 She queefs? 1.00

02:59:31.000 She makes a cannon sound. 1.00

02:59:34.000 It doesn't even make sense.

02:59:35.000 What? 1.00

02:59:36.000 She's like launching midgets into the fucking atmosphere. 1.00

02:59:39.000 Really? 1.00

02:59:40.000 Yeah, she used to do that all the time. 1.00

02:59:42.000 She would queef on him. 0.89

02:59:43.000 What? 0.98

02:59:43.000 She's shameless. 0.98

02:59:44.000 Is that the equivalent of a guy? 1.00

02:59:45.000 That lady doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

02:59:46.000 Is that the equivalent of a guy stool fucker? 1.00

02:59:49.000 Like on comedy? 0.98

02:59:50.000 No, well, there's not a lot of women that can do that. 1.00

02:59:52.000 Char has kind of an elitist approach to comedy.

02:59:54.000 It's quite interesting.

02:59:55.000 He likes bars, he says.

02:59:58.000 He likes jokes. 0.99

02:59:58.000 He doesn't like stool-fucking. 0.99

03:00:00.000 Stool-fucking, if it's the right bit, can be funny. 0.99

03:00:04.000 Really? 1.00

03:00:04.000 It has to be a real comic with a real reason to fuck that stool. 1.00

03:00:10.000 There has to be something to it. 0.99

03:00:11.000 I'm trying to think if Eddie fucked that stool. 0.99

03:00:13.000 I don't remember Eddie fucking no stool, bro. 0.99

03:00:15.000 See, I like Eddie. 0.97

03:00:16.000 I like Richard.

03:00:17.000 I like Chris Rock.

03:00:17.000 Bless you.

03:00:18.000 I like Chappelle.

03:00:19.000 You know what I'm saying?

03:00:19.000 I like those guys that actually get on stage and say something.

03:00:22.000 Like, have something to say.

03:00:24.000 Louis C.K. has something to say.

03:00:27.000 I like people that have something to say. 0.99

03:00:29.000 All that stool fucking is like, man. 0.98

03:00:30.000 I want to get him on stage. 0.99

03:00:31.000 I think he could do it.

03:00:32.000 Oh, you could definitely do it.

03:00:33.000 I would never disrespect a craft like that.

03:00:36.000 Well, you wouldn't have to disrespect it.

03:00:38.000 You would just have to want to do it and then try it.

03:00:40.000 Yeah, I don't want to do it.

03:00:41.000 I think we do it for fun.

03:00:42.000 If you don't want to do it, don't do it, but you could do it.

03:00:45.000 I tried one weekend and my first joke was like, you know what?

03:00:48.000 I'm going to sit down because I don't want anybody to ever say Charlemagne's up here trying to do stand-up.

03:00:52.000 Maybe don't try it, okay?

03:00:53.000 Maybe don't try it.

03:00:54.000 Listen, it's not for everybody, bro.

03:00:56.000 You know what?

03:00:57.000 Hey, my bad, Joe.

03:00:58.000 Hey, Joe.

03:00:59.000 Hey, all the listeners, my bad.

03:01:01.000 Maybe I don't have an eye for talent.

03:01:02.000 We just did three hours.

03:01:04.000 Wow.

03:01:05.000 That's how we do it, bro.

03:01:07.000 Let's bring it home.

03:01:09.000 Hey, Andrew, thank you for setting this up.

03:01:11.000 Thank you, man.

03:01:11.000 And Brendan, too.

03:01:12.000 Brendan Schaub.

03:01:13.000 Shout out to Brendan Schaub, man.

03:01:15.000 Schaub, too, man.

03:01:15.000 Shout out to Brendan Schaub.

03:01:17.000 I really do appreciate what you do for comics, though.

03:01:19.000 Because I've seen what you do for Andrew and Jesse May Peluso and Miss Pat, Don O'Reilly. 0.99

03:01:24.000 These people I really fuck with. 0.99

03:01:25.000 So thank you for that, man. 1.00

03:01:27.000 My pleasure.

03:01:27.000 For me, I'm honored that I have the platform to be able to help.

03:01:32.000 All right.

03:01:32.000 Bye, everybody.

03:01:33.000 Peace.

03:01:34.000 Peace.

03:01:36.000 Dude, so much fun.

03:01:37.000 That was like three hours.

The Joe Rogan Experience - June 19, 2019

Joe Rogan Experience #1314 - Charlamagne tha God & Andrew Schulz

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