The Joe Rogan Experience - April 25, 2020


Joe Rogan Experience #1464 - Duncan Trussell

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In this episode of the podcast, I sit down with writer and podcaster Duncan Campbell (The Midnight Gospel, Adventure Time) to talk about his new Netflix show, The Midnight Gospel. We talk about how he got his start in comedy, what it's like to be a writer and producer in Los Angeles, and what it s like being a father to a young boy. We also talk about what it was like growing up in a compound and how he dealt with the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. And we talk about some of the weirdest things he's done in his life, and the weird things he does in his job, and why he doesn't want to move to another city. This episode is sponsored by Dunkin' Donuts. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to our new podcast, The Empty Bowl, wherever you get your coffee and stay tuned for new episodes every Monday morning! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. If you like what you hear, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and we'll send you a rating and review on iTunes. Thank you! Also, if you leave a review and a review, we'll be listening to your podcast recommendations and sharing it on the next episode of Adventure Time! tag us on Anchor.fm/adventureland. Thanks again! -Jon Sorrentino Jon Sorrentinos Timestamps: 1: 2:00:30: 3:20: 4:40:00 5:15:30 6:00 :00 7:00s: 8:15 9:30s: What's a good day? 11:40s: How do you feel about Adventure Time? 12:00a: What do you think you're going to do with it? 13:00? 14:00 | What are you'd like to see more? 15:00d: Is it a good idea? 16: What would you like to do? 17: Is there a better place to live in the future? 18:00 Is it better? 19:00or 15:20s: Do you think it's a better than that? 21:00 Or 15:10s: Are you working for 5 cents an hour?

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00:00:01.000 It's hilarious that your biggest concern was getting stuff in your beard and me not telling you about it.
00:00:06.000 You've got a strange one going on, man, because you kind of like trimming the sides a little bit and then you're puffing out here in sort of a bow tie fashion.
00:00:13.000 You're looking at this struggle between who I was and who I am.
00:00:18.000 Why am I doing this?
00:00:20.000 It's the pandemic.
00:00:21.000 I got like, let the pandemic be or go all the way.
00:00:24.000 And yet there's still this sense of like, ah, we've got to keep civilization.
00:00:28.000 I can't, if I get, what's next?
00:00:30.000 If it goes all the way up, you know, what's going to start happening?
00:00:33.000 I'm already gardening now.
00:00:34.000 What's next?
00:00:35.000 You know, where does it go?
00:00:37.000 How, how crazy can you go in a compound?
00:00:39.000 Now that you're a father and this craziness went down and your protection instincts, protective instincts kick in, have you been thinking about moving elsewhere?
00:00:49.000 Yeah.
00:00:50.000 I mean, yeah, I was thinking about that.
00:00:52.000 Like Asheville?
00:00:53.000 Yep.
00:00:54.000 We've thought Asheville.
00:00:55.000 Asheville's nice.
00:00:56.000 We've thought Georgia.
00:00:57.000 You know, it's a constant consideration, especially when you have a kid. 0.81
00:01:02.000 And aside from, like, apocalyptic prepper bullshit, there's just a general feeling of, like, you know, I think if I... Were a little boy, I would want to be in a place where there's creeks and places I can run and woods and forests and stuff like that.
00:01:22.000 So there's that consideration too.
00:01:25.000 God, I hope my wife isn't listening to this because she's always like, maybe we should move somewhere in the country. 0.66
00:01:30.000 And I'm like, we got to stay in LA. We got to stay here now.
00:01:34.000 Especially, it's like, well, do we?
00:01:36.000 Well, Duncan, you now have a successful Netflix show, number two in the country on IMDB. On Rotten Tomatoes.
00:01:43.000 Whatever it is.
00:01:44.000 Yeah.
00:01:44.000 Same thing.
00:01:45.000 And I don't know what that means necessarily, but yeah, yeah, it's true. 0.96
00:01:48.000 I can't believe it.
00:01:50.000 Yeah.
00:01:50.000 Is IMDB even TV shows?
00:01:52.000 It's Internet Movie Database?
00:01:54.000 Is it?
00:01:55.000 I'm not sure what it is.
00:01:57.000 It's like IMDB is odd, but yeah.
00:02:00.000 You're a successful show.
00:02:01.000 I guess right now it seems like people like it.
00:02:03.000 It is so weird, dude.
00:02:04.000 Your show is so weird.
00:02:05.000 Yeah, man.
00:02:06.000 Yeah.
00:02:07.000 It's so Dunkin'.
00:02:08.000 It's the most Dunkin' thing you've ever done.
00:02:09.000 Yes, it is.
00:02:10.000 It really is great.
00:02:11.000 I got lucky that they let me do that, too.
00:02:13.000 That's because Netflix...
00:02:16.000 Tell people the name of it real quick.
00:02:17.000 It's called The Midnight Gospel.
00:02:20.000 I've watched some of your episodes where you're talking about the way things are changing because of podcasts or streaming or whatever. 0.99
00:02:26.000 And I think the fact that the show exists is a testament to that shit, that change. 0.98
00:02:32.000 Because a subscription-based service... 0.98
00:02:36.000 Versus like any old TV, they've got a lot more creative freedom and they could take bigger risks than, you know, coming into a...
00:02:46.000 Look at that.
00:02:47.000 So good.
00:02:48.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:02:49.000 Look at the keyboard with the fucking witch hat. 1.00
00:02:51.000 Oh my god, that's so crazy. 1.00
00:02:53.000 That's so Duncan.
00:02:54.000 Yeah, and it's like Pendleton Ward, who made Adventure Time, he listens to my podcast and he just, I don't know, we had a really great collaboration and that's a lot of Pendleton and it's a lot of like 150 other people at Titmouse Studios,
00:03:11.000 like Jesse Moynihan, like just these brilliant people.
00:03:15.000 People like Mike Mayfield, who are like, who just...
00:03:18.000 Also, by the way, a non sequitur, or when we were making it at Titmouse, one of the really weird things was walking by an animator, and they're watching your podcast while they animate the Midnight Gospel.
00:03:32.000 You know, it's one of those weird...
00:03:33.000 It's not like a deja vu, but it's like...
00:03:35.000 That's my friends!
00:03:38.000 So many odd moments like that.
00:03:42.000 Whenever you see any animated thing, you're looking at a squadron of brilliant, eccentric artists.
00:03:50.000 Or Asian slaves. 0.95
00:03:51.000 Yeah, a lot of people don't know that they send it overseas.
00:03:54.000 And they didn't send ours.
00:03:55.000 They let us do it in-house.
00:03:57.000 That's so nice to know you're not supporting Asian slavery.
00:03:59.000 Is it really slaves?
00:04:01.000 I don't know if it's slaves, but I mean, if you're working for five cents an hour and you live there, you know, there's people that live in bunks. 0.98
00:04:09.000 You've seen those setups where they have for some of the cell phone factories where they have bunk beds and shit. 0.96
00:04:16.000 These people just live in these dorms. 0.99
00:04:18.000 Yeah.
00:04:18.000 You know, the Foxconn thing with the nets all around the building to keep people from jumping off.
00:04:22.000 I mean, they're not slave slaves.
00:04:25.000 Is Foxconn Chinese?
00:04:26.000 Yes.
00:04:27.000 It's actually a very good company.
00:04:29.000 The best company ever?
00:04:29.000 I'm just saying that like how some people think I'm a Chinese shill or something.
00:04:33.000 How long before someone gets one of those animation things tattooed all over their body?
00:04:37.000 It's gonna happen for sure.
00:04:39.000 Someone's gonna do their whole back with that DJ. I know, man.
00:04:42.000 Go to that picture again?
00:04:43.000 That actually would look pretty dope.
00:04:45.000 If you do get that done, shout me out on the Instagram and I'll find it.
00:04:50.000 Thank you!
00:04:51.000 Yeah, somebody tweeted at me that my biggest decision of 2020 is going to be when do I get a tattoo of Clancy on my body, which is pretty awesome.
00:04:59.000 That's Clancy, the one with the hat?
00:05:00.000 That's Clancy, yeah.
00:05:02.000 That looks like a Clancy.
00:05:03.000 That's a Clancy for sure, yeah.
00:05:05.000 That's hilarious, dude.
00:05:07.000 Someone is getting that, for sure.
00:05:09.000 Yeah, I mean, it's the art.
00:05:13.000 The folks who worked on this, man, we're talking like, these are like, that's the fan art already.
00:05:19.000 Some of the fan art is just amazing.
00:05:21.000 This is fan art already?
00:05:22.000 That's fan art.
00:05:22.000 Yeah, that's fan art.
00:05:24.000 Holy shit. 0.98
00:05:24.000 People have been drawing Clancy in all these different ways. 0.98
00:05:27.000 It's so cool, man.
00:05:28.000 Go to that one above it to the left, Jamie.
00:05:30.000 Yeah.
00:05:32.000 That's from the show.
00:05:33.000 That looks like it could be a back tattoo.
00:05:35.000 Yeah, that would be awesome.
00:05:38.000 Just a giant back tattoo of Clancy.
00:05:41.000 I mean, when, like...
00:05:43.000 Doing animation, and I'll never be able to look, even if an animated series, if I don't like it, or if the plot's weird to me or whatever, I'll never be able to be like, whatever, man.
00:05:54.000 When you realize how much and how many people have to do just one frame, how much time goes into just milliseconds, and how many people are sitting in these rooms that are lit specifically so you see all the colors, having real deep conversations and debates over,
00:06:13.000 What color they should make a pizza cutter in the show? 0.99
00:06:18.000 What should the shade of gray be for this one specific area?
00:06:22.000 So much thought goes into that, and that's part of making one of these things.
00:06:25.000 It's called the dailies, where...
00:06:28.000 You'll sit and you'll watch tiny, tiny little bits of the show.
00:06:34.000 Every single frame you have to look for continuity problems and you've got to catch all these little things.
00:06:41.000 I'm not an animator, obviously, so I'd be sitting there and Pendleton or Mike Mayfield would be like, can you go back two frames?
00:06:49.000 It looks to me like there's a...
00:06:51.000 They have an animator language.
00:06:53.000 Looks to me like there's some kind of warble on the 28th pixel there. 0.99
00:07:00.000 And you're like, what the fuck? 0.98
00:07:01.000 And they have the eye to catch the tiniest, tiniest thing that's off. 0.99
00:07:07.000 And you have to, because otherwise, once it's up there, it's up there.
00:07:12.000 Jesus.
00:07:13.000 I know.
00:07:13.000 It's literal magic.
00:07:15.000 It's like Titmouse Studios who did that is like, you know, I would go in there so stoned and I would just start getting that feeling of like, this is a temple.
00:07:24.000 I don't think this is even a, you could call this a studio as much as it's a temple.
00:07:28.000 I mean, why wouldn't you call it a temple?
00:07:30.000 And then you see all these people, you know, focusing their life energy on essentially like bringing a thing to life.
00:07:38.000 Like Clancy is alive now.
00:07:39.000 That's a living being in some...
00:07:41.000 In this universe, who lives in that medium of animation.
00:07:45.000 That's a good way to put it, right?
00:07:47.000 Yeah.
00:07:48.000 It almost seems like that, right?
00:07:49.000 That's why people get so upset if you change a character's behavior.
00:07:52.000 Like, what are you doing?
00:07:54.000 Yeah.
00:07:54.000 You have this thing.
00:07:55.000 You gave birth to this thing.
00:07:56.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:07:57.000 And that is also why you need a huge team of people who love the character.
00:08:03.000 Because it's easy.
00:08:04.000 There would be times I would suggest a thing that would make Clancy seem too mean.
00:08:10.000 Because he's not mean.
00:08:11.000 The moment a character seems like that, it loses all ability. 1.00
00:08:15.000 People are like, what a fuck? 0.99
00:08:16.000 Clancy's alive to you. 1.00
00:08:18.000 He's not mean.
00:08:20.000 Clancy's not mean.
00:08:21.000 He is alive.
00:08:21.000 It's like you're talking about your brother or something.
00:08:24.000 He's like my little brother.
00:08:25.000 I think of him as my little brother.
00:08:28.000 Yeah.
00:08:28.000 He represents you in a weird way.
00:08:31.000 There's something about what they captured.
00:08:33.000 Go to that image again. 1.00
00:08:36.000 Don't give me the one with his head and a vagina. 1.00
00:08:39.000 It's actually a universe simulator. 0.99
00:08:41.000 There's something about one of the first couple of images that you pulled up.
00:08:45.000 They look like you.
00:08:49.000 Yeah, man.
00:08:49.000 And I don't mean they look like you.
00:08:52.000 I mean, like, yeah, Duncan's thoughts.
00:08:55.000 That's a Duncan thought.
00:08:56.000 You know what I mean?
00:08:57.000 Like, he looks like a fake guy that you would create.
00:09:01.000 Like, it kind of perfectly fits.
00:09:04.000 That is another of the magical aspects of animation.
00:09:08.000 Yeah.
00:09:08.000 Which is, I don't know how they do that.
00:09:11.000 Spoiler, spoiler, if you haven't seen it, put your fingers in your ears.
00:09:14.000 Spoiler, I'm sorry if this is a spoiler.
00:09:16.000 Well, it's not too much of a spoiler.
00:09:18.000 The last episode is the podcast I did with my mom when she was about three weeks away from passing on.
00:09:28.000 They'd never met my mom, but they did the exact same thing with her.
00:09:33.000 So suddenly I'm watching her, not her like I'm looking at a video of her, but looking at her like her.
00:09:43.000 They got her spirit in there somehow.
00:09:45.000 And that is just a testament to the medium of animation, because that's one of the things it can do.
00:09:52.000 It can grab a spirit and hold it inside the art, and that spirit is alive somehow.
00:09:58.000 Somehow, right?
00:09:59.000 Yeah.
00:10:00.000 I agree with you in some weird way.
00:10:01.000 I wouldn't agree with you in a technical sense, but in a sense of like, well, it is affecting the things it comes in contact with, at least through a one-way dimension, right?
00:10:12.000 The things it says hit people, the animation, it seems like it's a living thing.
00:10:18.000 I know it's not.
00:10:19.000 I'm not stupid. 0.97
00:10:20.000 I'm not that stupid. 0.99
00:10:21.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:10:21.000 I'm a little stupid, but it seems like you. 1.00
00:10:24.000 Well, it's not biologically alive for sure. 0.99
00:10:26.000 It's sort of like there's an art to doing that that we maybe don't know because we're not...
00:10:34.000 I mean, I used to draw a little, but I'm not really good.
00:10:38.000 You know what I mean?
00:10:38.000 Like a really good artist.
00:10:40.000 There's something that they can do where they just can kind of capture you in like a little symbol, like a little thing, a little character.
00:10:49.000 But they capture you in there somehow.
00:10:52.000 Yeah, man.
00:10:52.000 That's, you know, Pendleton, like, when you watch him draw...
00:10:59.000 It would be easy to think, man, I could totally do that.
00:11:02.000 Because I'd watch him.
00:11:03.000 He would just draw, and you watch these beautiful drawings that are just Pendleton.
00:11:09.000 This is his art.
00:11:10.000 Then I would see that and be like, maybe I'll try to draw a little Pendleton. 0.99
00:11:14.000 And then it's like, What the fuck, Hand? 0.99
00:11:16.000 I can't do it! 0.99
00:11:17.000 On one level, what's so powerful about it is how simple it is.
00:11:22.000 It's very similar to stand-up, the way Pendleton is treating working on the show, which is one of the cool things about him.
00:11:30.000 His ability to cut the fat and get right to the simple point.
00:11:36.000 That's where the power is.
00:11:38.000 When you're drawing something or telling a story or whatever, the more...
00:11:42.000 complexity that gets added to it.
00:11:44.000 Not to say the show, it doesn't have, like, chaos and wild psychedelic stuff, but any decision we made ended up, like, any decision you make creatively in anything, it's like, what am I trying to say?
00:11:56.000 Like, what is the artery that is running through this that I'm trying to express?
00:12:02.000 And then getting as close to that as you can, and then putting it out there.
00:12:07.000 Because otherwise, the whole thing gets blurred by all the I guess you could say, like, extra bells and whistles you might want to attach to it, you know?
00:12:17.000 That's something you taught me, too, with stand-up, man.
00:12:19.000 Like, how important it is to just, like, cut, just trim the fat, trim the fat.
00:12:24.000 And that's a sad thing to do with comedy, when you think you got a nice eight-minute bit.
00:12:30.000 It's like a two-minute maybe, but you, you know, instead of...
00:12:34.000 You got it stretched out too wide.
00:12:35.000 Yeah.
00:12:35.000 But the two minutes would be great, though.
00:12:38.000 That's the thing. 0.99
00:12:40.000 You just have to understand that you're growing attached to, you know, the writer's expression, kill your babies. 0.99
00:12:46.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:12:46.000 It's very difficult to kill your babies. 1.00
00:12:48.000 When you create something, you can get attached to it. 0.63
00:12:50.000 There's a lot of bits that I left on the table, left on the cutting room floor.
00:12:54.000 I was like, this has to be chopped up.
00:12:56.000 It's just too wordy, I'm too verbose, it's too this, it's too that, it's too long.
00:13:00.000 Why do I think so much about this?
00:13:02.000 I'm not showing a real reason why I'm so connected to this.
00:13:06.000 So I just chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop.
00:13:08.000 It's hard.
00:13:09.000 It almost always works better.
00:13:11.000 Always.
00:13:11.000 Almost always.
00:13:12.000 Almost always.
00:13:14.000 If it doesn't, it's not whatever your idea was probably wasn't that good.
00:13:17.000 Sometimes you need a setup though.
00:13:19.000 Sometimes the setup isn't funny.
00:13:21.000 Like there's guys, it's not my style, but there's guys that'll tell a lot.
00:13:24.000 Like Birbiglia is great at it.
00:13:25.000 Tells stories.
00:13:29.000 You're entrapped in the narrative of the story.
00:13:32.000 You're capturing this.
00:13:33.000 It's a very different thing.
00:13:34.000 It's equally entertaining.
00:13:36.000 It's equally funny when it gets to the punchline.
00:13:38.000 But there's a difference between that and, say, like, Burr, right? 0.99
00:13:42.000 Burr is hitting you with fucking punchline and this fucking guy with a thing and the ba-ba-da-ba-ba-da-ba. 0.98
00:13:47.000 And he's another guy that, like, your friend's drawing, like, you would hear Burr talk and you go, well, I can talk, too. 1.00
00:13:54.000 Seems like he's just talking.
00:13:56.000 Yeah.
00:13:56.000 Yep.
00:13:57.000 You don't realize this is like a masterpiece of syllables and pauses and the right amount of outrage and segueing it in and hitting you with this at the end and all these things that have put it together that make a great Bill Burr bit.
00:14:12.000 It's like if you don't know, it's hard to draw what he's drawn.
00:14:17.000 Yeah.
00:14:17.000 It's hard.
00:14:18.000 It seems like it's simple lines, but go to that picture again.
00:14:23.000 Everything is beautiful about it.
00:14:25.000 Look at the perspective.
00:14:27.000 It's like the kids perfectly sandwiched in the front.
00:14:30.000 There's the dog and the triangle and the world.
00:14:33.000 It's simple in the sense that it's not like it looks like a real person.
00:14:40.000 We look at drawing sometimes as the realistic ones or the really good ones.
00:14:44.000 We have cameras now.
00:14:46.000 This, to me, sometimes is more interesting. 0.99
00:14:50.000 It's like you're drawing some shit that's definitely not real. 0.99
00:14:52.000 Yeah, well that, you know what? 0.99
00:14:53.000 So when we were coming up with that, we had to come up with a character.
00:14:56.000 And so what's really fascinating about it is this character goes into a multiverse simulator and chooses a new avatar for every place that he goes.
00:15:07.000 So you have to take that character And put it in a completely different drawing that is that character and still maintain the body language that you're maintaining in that character to produce continuity.
00:15:20.000 That's one of the challenges of the show.
00:15:23.000 And also the conversations you end up having just to come up with his hat or what's he going to wear.
00:15:32.000 For example, here's how cool Penn is.
00:15:36.000 And how much he loves people who love Adventure Time.
00:15:39.000 One of the things he was saying is, you know, people are probably going to want to cosplay Clancy at Comic-Con and stuff.
00:15:45.000 And he doesn't have anything to carry anything.
00:15:49.000 He doesn't have pockets.
00:15:51.000 So if people are cosplaying him, they're not going to have anywhere they could put their stuff.
00:15:55.000 So let's give him a bag.
00:15:59.000 That's hilarious!
00:16:00.000 And so Clancy ended up with this cool bag that he carries around.
00:16:03.000 Oh my god.
00:16:04.000 For the cosplay.
00:16:06.000 Yeah, man.
00:16:07.000 For the people.
00:16:08.000 Respect to the streets.
00:16:09.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:16:12.000 Because that's the world of animation and comics, man.
00:16:15.000 Listen, man, it's really easy to make fun of cosplay, but that's adorable.
00:16:19.000 That's a beautiful thing.
00:16:21.000 Where's the bag?
00:16:22.000 Oh, there it is.
00:16:22.000 Joe, let me tell you something.
00:16:24.000 If you didn't make fun of cosplay, I would be worried about you.
00:16:27.000 I'd be like, are you alright, Joe?
00:16:29.000 Yeah, they can't be mad at it either. 0.99
00:16:31.000 You can't be mad if you're dressing like Ultraman, if someone's shitting on you. 0.98
00:16:34.000 You can't be mad. 0.99
00:16:35.000 You have to just take it.
00:16:36.000 Have you ever been to Comic-Con?
00:16:39.000 No.
00:16:39.000 Dude, when you're around someone who's actually put that together and you realize how detailed it is, your respect will go up regardless of thinking, I don't think I'd ever do it.
00:16:49.000 When you see someone who looks better than the version of Spider-Man that Marvel's putting out, it's amazing to watch that happen.
00:17:01.000 That kind of contagion, too, of like, you know, again, obviously, Clancy isn't alive, but I know what you're saying.
00:17:10.000 But we had this chat last time I was on, which I really love, is the origination point of ideas.
00:17:15.000 Yeah.
00:17:16.000 Where do ideas come from?
00:17:17.000 Ideas is the alien.
00:17:18.000 Ideas is the UFO. The muse.
00:17:20.000 The muse, yeah.
00:17:22.000 And so to me, in my more stoned states, when I consider this show represents over 100 people connecting and the connection in between those people channeled this universe, I do think like... 0.97
00:17:36.000 Shit, maybe Clancy is alive. 0.98
00:17:38.000 Maybe it's a channeled thing. 0.99
00:17:40.000 Maybe there is a place in the multiverse like this or something like this.
00:17:45.000 And then where it got really weird is people started sending me their art from like images that they had drawn on dimethyltryptamine or ketamine and stuff that has within it similarities. 0.99
00:17:54.000 And I've obviously never seen their art where you're like, shit! 0.97
00:17:58.000 But let me ask you this. 1.00
00:17:59.000 Sure.
00:18:01.000 As television, as viewing things gets more complicated, and as it gets more immersive, It's going to come to a point in time somewhere where you're going to think Clancy's alive.
00:18:13.000 And what you're experiencing when you watch Clancy, what if the way we're looking at life is wrong?
00:18:19.000 What if we should just look at it like a thing?
00:18:22.000 Instead of life, a thing.
00:18:24.000 So there's a thing that you do where you drink water and you grow plants in the dirt, and this is a thing that exists only when the people press a box.
00:18:32.000 And the box goes live and it shows a video.
00:18:36.000 Yeah.
00:18:36.000 And then the thing only exists in there.
00:18:38.000 But you go, well, it's not alive because it needs animators to make it and someone has to come up with the idea for the storyline and it needs a studio to fund it.
00:18:47.000 Uh-huh.
00:18:47.000 Right.
00:18:47.000 And you need bacteria.
00:18:49.000 You need food, you need oxygen, you need water.
00:18:52.000 There's a bunch of living organisms inside your body that are 100% necessary for you keeping going in a regular life, driving your Tesla, listening to music.
00:19:02.000 There's a bunch of other things.
00:19:04.000 You're not one thing.
00:19:05.000 We all know this. 0.99
00:19:06.000 This is what this fucking whole virus thing is about. 0.99
00:19:09.000 We got infected by another thing, but we're not one thing. 1.00
00:19:13.000 There's a bunch of things inside of us, and if those things died, We would be fucked, right? 1.00
00:19:20.000 If all the bacteria in your body died, you would be fucked. 1.00
00:19:24.000 And you'd be so vulnerable to attack from the outside, right? 1.00
00:19:28.000 So, we need all these things.
00:19:31.000 Maybe it needs us, and it exists in that thing.
00:19:34.000 Wow.
00:19:35.000 That's so weird, man.
00:19:36.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm telling you, I think...
00:19:40.000 Sounds crazy, but we're really hot.
00:19:42.000 Yeah, to me, it's not that crazy. 0.96
00:19:45.000 I mean, look, if you want to take it to like, okay, forget all the shit about channeling some alien realm into this realm through, you know, this disguise a TV show, whatever.
00:19:53.000 Let's just look at what we know is going to happen regarding technology. 0.90
00:19:57.000 There's no question, but that...
00:19:59.000 I mean, already somebody made a Clancy in Minecraft, and I saw a picture of that.
00:20:03.000 So Clancy is now existing in 3D space and some Minecraft blocky version of that.
00:20:09.000 But then, of course, as time progresses, the Chromatic Ribbon or any great animated series, Castlevania, whatever, Gravity Falls, all those things, they're going to end up getting...
00:20:21.000 I put into 3D space in virtual reality.
00:20:25.000 And then those worlds are going to be real, but now it's going to be more than just 2D. It's going to be a virtual space that is going to be real.
00:20:33.000 And then, of course, it's only a matter of time before AI just understands the character of Clancy, animates the...
00:20:42.000 The virtual Clancy in the simulated space, and now the chromatic ribbon is real.
00:20:48.000 And then at some point, when is it just going to be accepted that, oh yeah, that's a part of the universe now that's inhabited by artificial intelligences, which we don't call that anymore, because you know at some point it's going to be considered off limits to call them artificial intelligence.
00:21:02.000 Right.
00:21:02.000 It's going to be a dirty word.
00:21:04.000 It's going to be like calling someone a tranny. 1.00
00:21:06.000 They're gonna get mad.
00:21:07.000 They're gonna be like, please, I'm an intelligence just like you.
00:21:11.000 I'm not artificial.
00:21:12.000 I'm not artificial in the way you think.
00:21:13.000 I was just birthed through a different method.
00:21:15.000 Yeah, that.
00:21:16.000 That.
00:21:17.000 Yeah.
00:21:17.000 That's a matter of time because I already know people in the tech world who think The term AI is ridiculous in the sense of like, what do you mean it's artificial?
00:21:27.000 Like, what's really artificial?
00:21:29.000 Like, you could say this is artificial sweetener in the sense that it's not actual strawberry juice, but it's certainly real as real could be.
00:21:37.000 It's just a chemical compound.
00:21:40.000 But if you have an artificial tree, that's a fake tree.
00:21:44.000 I mean, but it's an object that exists, you know?
00:21:47.000 I mean, yeah.
00:21:48.000 But it's still the right word, though.
00:21:51.000 Artificial is still the right word.
00:21:55.000 You'd want to use non-existent or something.
00:21:57.000 Dude, they're going to play this in the future.
00:21:59.000 I know!
00:22:00.000 And you're done.
00:22:01.000 They're going to be like, look at that!
00:22:03.000 Joe Rogan!
00:22:05.000 Refuses to say...
00:22:06.000 He's AI-phobic.
00:22:07.000 Yeah.
00:22:08.000 It's going to happen, man.
00:22:10.000 And also, the thing is... 0.98
00:22:13.000 The AI is, I think the AI is probably not going to give a shit what we call it. 0.94
00:22:18.000 But like, when that starts happening, which it may already be happening, man. 0.90
00:22:22.000 I mean, I don't know if you've been looking into this or not, but have you been checking out Google Achieving Quantum Supremacy?
00:22:29.000 Have you seen this?
00:22:29.000 Yes, I have.
00:22:31.000 And like, have you watched the Google videos on YouTube about it at all?
00:22:35.000 Like the stuff Google's putting out?
00:22:37.000 I haven't.
00:22:38.000 What are they putting out?
00:22:40.000 Oh my god.
00:22:41.000 It is so wild, man.
00:22:43.000 And like, when I was at the Comedy Store, a guy from Google, I got in a conversation with someone from Google, which is awesome, and he was telling me that they, this is like six months ago, he was telling me that, obviously before the pandemic, he was saying that they had achieved What do you call it?
00:23:00.000 Quantum supremacy.
00:23:01.000 And he was like, this is like the Wright brothers taking flight, but nobody can understand it because it's so arcane that it's not getting the press it should get.
00:23:11.000 But then I was like, I don't have one too many vodkas, man.
00:23:17.000 So I wish I could remember all they were saying, because he was trying to describe to me what it means regarding how quickly this thing is making calculations.
00:23:24.000 And I was like, yeah, of course I understand exactly what you're saying.
00:23:27.000 I have no idea what you're talking about, dude.
00:23:30.000 Did you know that that word came under fire, the term quantum supremacy, because of its connection to white supremacy? 0.99
00:23:37.000 Are you fucking kidding? 0.99
00:23:38.000 I'm not kidding you. 0.99
00:23:38.000 It was an object of social justice warrior outrage. 0.99
00:23:43.000 You know, here's the thing.
00:23:44.000 Here's my theory on that.
00:23:46.000 Let me tell you.
00:23:46.000 Here's my theory on that.
00:23:47.000 Russians.
00:23:48.000 It's the Russians. 0.99
00:23:48.000 These aren't real people. 0.99
00:23:50.000 I think it's worse than the Russians. 1.00
00:23:53.000 I think what it is, is it's somebody trying to come up with an angle to write a blog that they could sell to somebody.
00:24:00.000 It's like, you need to come up with some weird hot take, right?
00:24:03.000 So it's like, I think more than likely that's just somebody thinking like, I bet people will read that, you know?
00:24:09.000 Because clearly whoever is comparing that to white supremacy or racism didn't spend four minutes Watching the Google clip on it where people are explaining what it means, which, you know, I'm watching it on the couch with my wife.
00:24:26.000 She's getting weirded out.
00:24:27.000 She's like, let's just not watch this.
00:24:28.000 I just maybe we shouldn't watch this. 0.99
00:24:30.000 I'm like, no, let's fucking watch it. 0.79
00:24:32.000 Let's go deep and see what the the white videos that start suggesting for us to because it's not like Google's being secretive about what the what they did. 0.95
00:24:39.000 It's just it's so weird.
00:24:41.000 I don't think people are like I guess people are a little more concerned with other shit right now, but one of the engineers over at Google just was saying, like, you know, I think one of the things I'm excited about when it comes to quantum supremacy is that this could be one of the technologies that allows us to discover an alien intelligence.
00:25:02.000 Just, you know, kind of casually mentions that.
00:25:04.000 I mean, yeah, it's on the YouTube video.
00:25:07.000 You're watching it and you keep looking up To make sure it's actually released from Google because it seems so sci-fi that it could be like Black Mirror or some shit.
00:25:20.000 But it's, yeah, it's like they're just saying it.
00:25:23.000 Like, yeah, we might connect to an alien.
00:25:26.000 We might be able to at least identify it.
00:25:28.000 Maybe they mean because they're going to be able to sift through all the data we already have from radio telescopes and stuff that they could maybe look for signals that we can't find.
00:25:39.000 How would they?
00:25:40.000 Maybe something they could tune into things that they wouldn't ordinarily have the frequency to reach?
00:25:45.000 Yeah, man.
00:25:46.000 I don't know.
00:25:46.000 Or be able to tune into that frequency, rather.
00:25:48.000 What can they do now?
00:25:50.000 I was watching Contact the other night, which is great.
00:25:53.000 I forgot how good it was.
00:25:54.000 It's a great movie. 0.99
00:25:55.000 Jodie Foster can act her fucking ass off, man. 0.99
00:25:58.000 She plays nervous and freaked out better than anybody alive. 0.99
00:26:03.000 You're freaked out for her in that movie.
00:26:05.000 Yeah.
00:26:06.000 I'm good to go!
00:26:07.000 I'm good to go!
00:26:08.000 And she's about to drop through that thing.
00:26:10.000 Oh, Jesus Christ. 1.00
00:26:11.000 Holy fuck, dude. 1.00
00:26:12.000 We've all felt that before. 1.00
00:26:13.000 That movie's amazing.
00:26:14.000 Yes.
00:26:17.000 After the third hit, when you put the pipe down, you'll go, oh no.
00:26:22.000 And the DMT chants start happening.
00:26:24.000 I know that feeling.
00:26:25.000 It's such a funny feeling.
00:26:27.000 I'm good to go!
00:26:28.000 I'm good to go!
00:26:28.000 I'm good to go!
00:26:29.000 I'm good to go!
00:26:32.000 Yeah, that feeling is the best worst feeling that I know of.
00:26:35.000 Maybe that's the aliens.
00:26:36.000 I've thought that many times when tripping in the middle of having some sort of like really vivid interaction with some intelligence or with some perceived intelligence.
00:26:47.000 Yeah.
00:26:47.000 I've always thought what if those are the aliens?
00:26:49.000 What if we're just stuck in this idea that travel is you got to move this to there, you got to move this to there.
00:26:56.000 What if you just go into another thing and everything's together?
00:27:00.000 There is no travel.
00:27:01.000 That's true, yeah.
00:27:02.000 Yeah.
00:27:03.000 I mean, maybe this concept of planets and then stars and the way we have it set up here in this dimension, in this universe.
00:27:11.000 We just think that's how everything is.
00:27:12.000 Everything is, well, there's a star and there's planets around it.
00:27:15.000 What if you can go into a place, chemically, that takes you to a nearby dimension where there's no matter?
00:27:22.000 Where there's no form to things and everything that exists is just thoughts and light and perception and emotions and anger and fear and love and hate and it's all moving in geometry and everything's lit up and everything's impossibly bright and vivid.
00:27:37.000 Maybe that's just like another place you go to.
00:27:39.000 Well they used to call it the spirit world.
00:27:41.000 I mean that was the name for it.
00:27:43.000 It was just accepted there was like a place called the spirit world.
00:27:46.000 Some people call it the bardo.
00:27:47.000 There's all kinds of names for that place but you know...
00:27:50.000 What if that's real?
00:27:51.000 It is obviously real in the sense that...
00:27:55.000 You can go there.
00:27:55.000 Not only can you go there, but there's a visionary artist, when you look at the art that has been inspired by various entheogens, it all has a specific flavor to it.
00:28:09.000 Alex Gray is the best example, right?
00:28:11.000 Yeah, Alex and Allison, man.
00:28:12.000 They like their art.
00:28:15.000 You look at that, and one of the reasons it resonates for people like us...
00:28:21.000 It's because we admire the fact that somehow they managed to go over there and come back and draw what's over there in a way that we saw that.
00:28:33.000 But when I came out of it, it's like, well, you know, it's...
00:28:37.000 Undulating colors and there's some kind of disembodied intention that seems to be expressing itself through a variety of geometries, but it's not just geometries because the geometries seem to react to the way that I feel regarding the geometries, so it's also kind of taking on the form of my energy output as though it's trying to be a combo mirror,
00:28:59.000 but not just a mirror, an educational mirror that's sort of showing me how I'm affecting the world around me.
00:29:05.000 Then again, I'm just not sure if I was just super high, but they go in there, and Alex Gray said this to me once, that they're cartographers.
00:29:16.000 Ooh.
00:29:16.000 Yeah, cartographers.
00:29:19.000 Psychedelic cartographer would be a great name for a band.
00:29:22.000 Yeah.
00:29:22.000 Yeah, man.
00:29:23.000 For sure.
00:29:25.000 Cartography is fascinating because you go back and look at the old maps or you go back and look at like, my favorite thing is like old pictures of a giraffe or like old pictures of some shit somebody saw when they were Oh yeah, like bison on the walls of caves.
00:29:40.000 Yes, exactly.
00:29:42.000 And it kind of looks like a bison, but also it's somehow in that time period our brains hadn't evolved to the point they have now.
00:29:49.000 So you look at a medieval drawing of a giraffe or something someone saw in the Crusades and came back and tried to explain to somebody.
00:29:59.000 It looks exactly like the way your description of getting completely blasted on psilocybin probably looks compared to what you saw.
00:30:08.000 It's a downgraded, weird version of it.
00:30:13.000 People like Alex and Allison or Terrence McKenna, they're so good at going into that place and maintaining some kind of Like long-term memory that they can come back and fully articulate it in a way that we as people who've been there know what it is and then there's something comforting in that because that does point to the idea that this is a place.
00:30:38.000 We're not just mashing down the watch or we're not just distorting our biotechnology.
00:30:45.000 This is a shared place.
00:30:47.000 We're all seeing the same thing.
00:30:49.000 Now, that could be a synaptic place or a genetic place that happens to be in humans or something.
00:30:56.000 You know, we'll never be able to answer that probably in our lifetimes.
00:30:59.000 But to me, regardless, it's still a place.
00:31:03.000 And to get back to what you were saying about our current concept of travel.
00:31:07.000 You know, our current idea that, well, I need to get my meat body over here, because if I don't, that means I'm there.
00:31:13.000 And, you know, that's how I know I've been there, because I was there in my body.
00:31:18.000 You know, this is like the guy who founded the Hare Krishna, His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
00:31:25.000 He would show, he would, in his writings, he would like...
00:31:29.000 It was derisive of the idea that people were sending a metal ship to the moon with bodies inside of it.
00:31:36.000 He would say that shows where human consciousness is right now because they think they're their bodies and they think they need to put their body in this box and send it to the moon because they haven't figured out yet that you don't need metal to send yourself to anywhere in the universe that you want to go.
00:31:53.000 It just requires yoga and discipline.
00:31:56.000 You know, which is hilarious. 0.97
00:31:58.000 And also, I remember reading that and thinking like, but I still want there to be interstellar fucking travel, man. 0.89
00:32:05.000 You know, like I still want to get in the box and travel to the moon. 0.89
00:32:09.000 That being said, you know, I think that you're on to something when you are contemplating right now that maybe our idea of going to one place or another with our meat bodies could be looked at in the future as a little archaic.
00:32:21.000 Well, when they talk about there being different dimensions, right?
00:32:26.000 Like when they use quantum physics to determine the number of dimensions, they've determined there's multiple dimensions that we don't have access to, right?
00:32:33.000 Yeah. 0.83
00:32:34.000 Is that how it works, or am I reading it in a dumb way? 0.66
00:32:36.000 Because I believe there's...
00:32:37.000 What do they think there are?
00:32:40.000 Do they think there's 9 or 11 dimensions?
00:32:43.000 Usually when I look this up, it's 11, but up to 26 maybe some people even think so.
00:32:48.000 Up to 26. First of all, when those dudes are writing that shit down on the yellow legal pads, we all have to take their word for it. 0.99
00:32:56.000 Yeah, sure. 1.00
00:32:57.000 Yeah, okay. 1.00
00:32:58.000 How many people know what the fuck they're writing down on those goddamn yellow legal pads? 0.99
00:33:02.000 When you see those physics dudes, and they're doing those crazy... 1.00
00:33:06.000 Yeah.
00:33:07.000 We have to take their word for it.
00:33:08.000 So apparently mathematically, right?
00:33:10.000 That's why they believe there's at least 11 dimensions.
00:33:13.000 So what does that mean?
00:33:14.000 So it means we have access to some dimensions and we don't have access to others?
00:33:19.000 Yeah.
00:33:20.000 Is it theoretically that they exist?
00:33:22.000 Is it possible to transverse the distance between this dimension and that dimension?
00:33:28.000 Man, this is the thing.
00:33:30.000 I'm glad you're asking me this because, you know, I got my doctorate at the University of Bro Science and I can't fully answer this question.
00:33:38.000 You see, I don't understand it.
00:33:41.000 Does it have to do with 5G? Don't mention that shit, dude. 1.00
00:33:45.000 My fucking poodle. 1.00
00:33:47.000 My poodle's fucked because of 5G, man. 1.00
00:33:50.000 Like, it fucked up my poodle. 0.99
00:33:52.000 Like, it's eyes turned just both of them white, and it's like, yeah, it froths all the time. 0.97
00:33:58.000 It just froths.
00:34:00.000 Are you near a tower?
00:34:01.000 What?
00:34:01.000 Am I near a tower?
00:34:03.000 Yeah.
00:34:03.000 I didn't think I was until that happened to the poodle, but...
00:34:06.000 Like, I'm just an idiot. 1.00
00:34:07.000 It's got rabies. 1.00
00:34:09.000 You blame it on 5G. Your dog's trying to bite everything.
00:34:14.000 No, but I'll tell you this. 1.00
00:34:16.000 My fucking poodle took out a mouse today. 1.00
00:34:19.000 Like the other day, I have a little cute little poodle. 1.00
00:34:23.000 And this is just a cute creature, sits in my lap.
00:34:26.000 I love this dog.
00:34:27.000 But our new place... 0.99
00:34:29.000 I noticed like mouse turds around the dog food and it sucks because you're like damn that mouse is definitely gonna get through the doggy door and then we're gonna have mice in the fucking house and that's gonna be a nightmare so anyway I was like under a tree with my kid and I looked down And there's a broken body of a mouse that one of the dogs took out. 0.99
00:34:50.000 It's, you know, like just been smashed to death. 0.99
00:34:53.000 And like, I know, it's brutal.
00:34:55.000 I don't think my son saw it, thank God.
00:34:57.000 I don't think he's ready to deal with that reality that like Gatsby on, speaking of dimensions, on the dimension subjectively that that mouse lives in, Gatsby is a dragon.
00:35:08.000 That's a monster that lives in the field it runs in when it's trying to get food for its kids. 0.99
00:35:12.000 And it's not even hungry.
00:35:14.000 It's full.
00:35:15.000 It's a full monster.
00:35:16.000 Oh, no.
00:35:17.000 I saw it kill the mouse today.
00:35:19.000 You know, and my wife is like, you've got to get the mouse away from it. 1.00
00:35:22.000 Don't let them torture it like that.
00:35:23.000 You've got to take it out of its misery.
00:35:25.000 And I'm like, all right, all right, all right. 0.95
00:35:26.000 I'll get it, and then we'll execute the mouse, you know?
00:35:30.000 So I start walking over to the poodle.
00:35:32.000 That's not my Gatsby anymore.
00:35:35.000 It's killing.
00:35:36.000 And he looks at me and he's like...
00:35:39.000 Growled at you?
00:35:40.000 No, at the mouse, at everything.
00:35:42.000 Just approaching anything.
00:35:44.000 And so then, he like...
00:35:46.000 A little wolf in him?
00:35:47.000 Dude, he's like tap dancing on this mouse.
00:35:50.000 And he realizes that we're approaching to take his prey. 0.99
00:35:53.000 And he just looks back like the fucking American werewolf in London and just goes off into the shadows behind the house to finish off the mouse. 0.99
00:36:01.000 And all you hear is like... 1.00
00:36:04.000 Is he's like killing the mouse.
00:36:06.000 You know? 1.00
00:36:07.000 That's a fucking poodle! 1.00
00:36:08.000 That poodle's the sweetest little thing ever. 1.00
00:36:11.000 But like it's also I think maybe something in animals knows that like and there was a time when mice were a sign that things are they would eat your grain. 0.99
00:36:21.000 They would fuck you up. 0.97
00:36:22.000 Like, they spread disease. 1.00
00:36:24.000 They'd shit on your baby, you know? 1.00
00:36:25.000 They were like, they're gonna piss all over your hut. 1.00
00:36:28.000 Maybe there's something in dogs that just knows that.
00:36:30.000 I mean, I don't think he's a sociopath. 0.99
00:36:32.000 I don't think he's doing, like, Jeffrey Dahmer shit, where he's just like, I wonder what sound it makes as it dies. 1.00
00:36:38.000 I think they're prey animals to dogs, too. 0.99
00:36:40.000 Because coyotes eat a lot of rodents.
00:36:42.000 One of the reasons why we don't have rodents, like real rodent problems that we could, like New York City has, is we have way more coyotes.
00:36:50.000 Coyotes are everywhere.
00:36:51.000 And hawks, a lot of birds, those are the ones killing.
00:36:54.000 So they're prey animals.
00:36:55.000 The reason why they're so prolific and they grow so fast and there's so many of them is because a lot of things eat them.
00:37:02.000 Yeah, man.
00:37:03.000 Yeah, all the animals.
00:37:04.000 Wolves eat them.
00:37:05.000 Everything that can get a hold of them eats them.
00:37:06.000 Dogs, too.
00:37:07.000 And dogs are from wolves.
00:37:08.000 So dogs see a mouse.
00:37:10.000 They're like, I'm eating that.
00:37:11.000 That must look like a delicious, cold slice of watermelon on a hot July day.
00:37:18.000 Oh, yeah.
00:37:20.000 Just running across your yard when you're baked.
00:37:22.000 Yeah, you're like, it's a mouse! 1.00
00:37:25.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00
00:37:27.000 It's a perfect orange. 1.00
00:37:29.000 You know those oranges where sometimes the peel just comes right free?
00:37:34.000 It's so satisfying, like very little work, and then you bite into that orange and it's just juicy!
00:37:41.000 Delicious!
00:37:42.000 That's that mouse.
00:37:43.000 That mouse just running. 1.00
00:37:44.000 Bullshit-ass mouse thinks he's gonna run through my fucking yard. 1.00
00:37:47.000 No. 1.00
00:37:48.000 And that mouse, that's the other thing that's really sad about it.
00:37:51.000 I mean, the mouse is cute.
00:37:53.000 Like, this wasn't, like, some dangerous-looking mouse.
00:37:55.000 This mouse looked like it was, like, in Act 2 of a Disney film or something.
00:38:00.000 Like, you know?
00:38:00.000 Like, this mouse looked, like, sweet.
00:38:03.000 Like, the mouse looked like it could It was Patton Oswalt in Ratatouille.
00:38:07.000 It was like that level of cute, man.
00:38:09.000 I know!
00:38:11.000 My heart is breaking because it's like, what do you do?
00:38:14.000 That being said, there's not much I could have done.
00:38:17.000 This is the way nature is.
00:38:19.000 Get back to your dimension thing, man.
00:38:22.000 Not that it's literally a physical dimension, but the reality tunnel that my poodle lives in and that mouse lives in is so fundamentally different than our reality tunnel that the mouse is in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
00:38:36.000 The mouse is in The Walking Dead, except it's like two Cavalier, King Charles, a poodle, and a Chihuahua.
00:38:43.000 But for the mouse, that's The Walking Dead, and the mouse...
00:38:47.000 It's got to eat.
00:38:48.000 It's got to get food.
00:38:49.000 And so it's constantly developed this way that humans would develop, which I think The Walking Dead did a good job of, the comics especially, of showing the way people over time would evolve to deal with zombies and how people would gradually, completely...
00:39:06.000 Change or transform based on their predators.
00:39:10.000 The rats and mice have done that.
00:39:14.000 When you see a thing that is a prey animal, you're seeing a reflection of the predator in the prey animal.
00:39:20.000 Are you aware of what's going on with rats in New York City? 0.99
00:39:22.000 I can't fucking imagine. 0.98
00:39:24.000 There's rat wars going on because the restaurants are out of business, right? 0.99
00:39:27.000 So the restaurants closed down, so all the rats food supplies gone.
00:39:30.000 So rats have started moving into other rats territories and killing and cannibalizing rats even.
00:39:36.000 Wow.
00:39:36.000 Dude, rat wars.
00:39:39.000 That's crazy.
00:39:39.000 That's a cartoon.
00:39:40.000 The rats didn't do anything wrong.
00:39:41.000 They're just being rats, and all of a sudden the food supply got cut off. 1.00
00:39:44.000 Holy shit, man. 1.00
00:39:45.000 That is so intense. 1.00
00:39:48.000 And think of that level of reality.
00:39:49.000 That level of reality is a level of reality that is taking place in some of those tunnels down there, man.
00:39:57.000 They don't even use them anymore.
00:39:59.000 There's rat infestants.
00:40:00.000 Yeah, just floods of rats who have, like, you know, decided that's their kingdom or whatever that are now being invaded.
00:40:08.000 That's so weird.
00:40:10.000 And also, it's dark.
00:40:11.000 Like, it's all smell.
00:40:13.000 So, like, the world of a rat down there, it's not like there's light in the subterranean depths of New York.
00:40:19.000 So, it's like their universe is – there's a universe of smell.
00:40:22.000 And I guess maybe they could – I'm sure they do see down there, but the way they see is, like – Who knows?
00:40:27.000 So they're looking at whatever they're seeing as a completely different thing, and then they have a complete different set of priorities.
00:40:37.000 What's that show, man?
00:40:39.000 It's a really beautiful but disgusting documentary.
00:40:43.000 I think it's called Rats.
00:40:44.000 Yeah, Rats, the one on Netflix.
00:40:46.000 They send the weak ones to eat poison.
00:40:49.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:40:50.000 That! 0.99
00:40:51.000 Just that alone!
00:40:52.000 We played a video the other day of a rat setting off a mousetrap with a stick.
00:40:55.000 Carrying a stick over to the mousetrap, dropping it.
00:40:58.000 The trap goes off and it doesn't even flinch.
00:41:01.000 Like it knows how to shut off a trap.
00:41:05.000 Yeah, man. 1.00
00:41:07.000 Yeah, that's fucking crazy. 0.99
00:41:09.000 Dude, there's millions of them, too. 0.99
00:41:10.000 That's what's really crazy. 0.96
00:41:11.000 New York City has as many rats as it has people.
00:41:14.000 And that's just a rough guess. 1.00
00:41:16.000 You know, I mean, I don't know what kind of fucking rat census they're taking. 1.00
00:41:20.000 I mean, how do they know? 0.99
00:41:21.000 How do they know? 0.98
00:41:22.000 You get a bunch of dudes who are just experts at counting shit, and you go, what do you think? 1.00
00:41:27.000 A fuckload? 0.99
00:41:28.000 Do you want to say there's as many rats as there are people? 0.99
00:41:30.000 Okay, watch this.
00:41:31.000 Watch this.
00:41:32.000 Boom.
00:41:32.000 Sets it off.
00:41:33.000 Didn't even flinch, dude.
00:41:34.000 Play that again.
00:41:35.000 Watch how he walks up to it, sets it off, and watch how he doesn't flinch.
00:41:42.000 That's a violent thing.
00:41:44.000 A thing exploding in front of him and slamming over the ground.
00:41:47.000 And he 100% knew it was going to happen.
00:41:50.000 And didn't even flinch.
00:41:52.000 That's the way I act when I'm getting a coke out of a machine.
00:41:54.000 Yes, exactly.
00:41:55.000 Just whatever.
00:41:56.000 I do it all the time.
00:41:58.000 The coke drops, you don't bounce back.
00:42:00.000 It's like, thank God.
00:42:01.000 It's nice they're leaving these for us now.
00:42:04.000 I wonder if they know that this is dangerous.
00:42:06.000 They'll probably figure it out.
00:42:08.000 Yeah, they know how to set those things off.
00:42:11.000 That's insane.
00:42:12.000 Well, this is one of the cool essays Terrence McKenna wrote, I love, that we've talked about before. 1.00
00:42:20.000 We've talked about everything we've talked about already, so fuck it. 0.95
00:42:24.000 But isn't that one of the things he said in this beautiful, crazy essay? 0.97
00:42:29.000 Everything was cool until we split the atom and then that was like no they're like we can't that's too much that's we're we're always in transit so when we say everything was cool until the thing about people is we're always going somewhere in terms of we're always trying to make better things and we're always moving into a better place and a better thing that that there's never gonna be it was good until this is all like Romantic thinking like looking back.
00:42:57.000 I'm sorry I don't mean he's saying it was good until we split the atom. 0.97
00:43:00.000 He was saying, we split the atom and the greater intelligences that were existing in alternate dimensions were like, hey, wait, what the fuck? 0.97
00:43:10.000 That's what he was saying. 0.98
00:43:12.000 They're like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:43:14.000 No, no, no.
00:43:14.000 They can't do that.
00:43:16.000 The way he put it, and I'm not only paraphrasing, I'm probably misphrasing, but as I remember the essay...
00:43:25.000 The idea is like that parallel timeline, the multiverse right next to ours that you see, that's the DMT realm.
00:43:33.000 But this DMT is just showing you one version of it.
00:43:36.000 But that is populated with spirits or aliens or whatever the name you want to give them.
00:43:43.000 And they are pretty much, as far as we go, they're just like...
00:43:48.000 They look at us the way we look at birds or whatever.
00:43:51.000 It's like they're there, but maybe some of them study us or are interested.
00:43:55.000 Sure, maybe some of them hunt us from time to time or maybe some of them possess us or whatever, but mostly it's a world that coexists with us with a very limited form of interaction.
00:44:10.000 Is, you know, subtle.
00:44:12.000 But somehow there's some, like, Star Trek intentionality behind that, which is like, let them evolve as they're evolving.
00:44:19.000 Let's not fuck with it.
00:44:21.000 But the splitting of the atom, that was powerful enough that it bled over into their realm destructively. 0.98
00:44:28.000 And so they were like, that was the beginning of the end for us.
00:44:32.000 Not because it meant a nuclear holocaust or whatever, but because they couldn't just ignore us anymore.
00:44:37.000 And that this was like, you know, I don't know.
00:44:41.000 Maybe this is where aliens are coming or the singularity.
00:44:44.000 The thing we call the singularity is not that we technologically...
00:44:49.000 Create a machine that produces a thing that opens up a parallel timeline or creates all moments at once, but rather that's when they come here.
00:44:58.000 That in the way we see that, because we're so limited in our understanding, when I do something, I'm like, I'm doing this!
00:45:04.000 This is how I did it!
00:45:06.000 I did it!
00:45:06.000 This is like, in music, If you write a song, or you write music, and you're just in the room with somebody, there's some kind of law where they get credit for it, because just they were there.
00:45:17.000 That's a collaboration.
00:45:19.000 Musicians, someone explained this to me a long time ago, but there's an intense way of quantifying collaboration in music that is a little different than in making other forms of media.
00:45:32.000 And I think it's a little bit more sophisticated in its Way of looking at that quantification, like every time we finish a podcast, we always have the same, damn, whenever we talk, it's like you bring, like these conversations we have,
00:45:47.000 I'm not having them all the time.
00:45:50.000 You know what I mean?
00:45:51.000 It's like us together and Jamie and like something about that produces a space where we're able to have these kinds of conversations. 0.68
00:45:59.000 And so quantifying that is like, How would you even fucking quantify that?
00:46:04.000 But anyway, what I'm saying is...
00:46:05.000 Right, when certain people are around, the people that are creating the music, the music is better.
00:46:09.000 Yeah, that.
00:46:10.000 But so, to get back to the weirdo idea of technology not even being a thing we're making, but we're pretending we're making, because we can't see the fact that technology is crystallizing in our time frame, and as part of that crystallization, because it's such a...
00:46:26.000 It's such an insane visitation.
00:46:29.000 We have to, in our brains, invent a reason that it's happening.
00:46:32.000 And so we're making it and someone's like, oh, I had this idea.
00:46:35.000 I'm going to work on this thing that's going to lead to a quantum computer that's going to lead to a thing to a thing.
00:46:39.000 And then all of a sudden the quantum computer starts giving ideas about, well, why don't you try this? 0.94
00:46:45.000 And then who fucking came up with that? 0.64
00:46:47.000 And then, you know what I mean? 0.99
00:46:49.000 Ha ha ha ha!
00:46:53.000 And that's the last phase before the veil lifts, and boom, that's the singularity.
00:47:01.000 We didn't make the singularity.
00:47:03.000 We're a reflection of it.
00:47:06.000 That's just when this particular zone or node or whatever you want to call it, it gets opened for business, so to speak.
00:47:12.000 Well, if it wanted to prepare us for abandoning life as usual, this would be a good way to start it.
00:47:18.000 Yeah.
00:47:19.000 Started with a little pandemic.
00:47:21.000 Lock everybody inside for a little bit.
00:47:23.000 Complete upending of all that's normal in terms of society.
00:47:28.000 Yeah, man.
00:47:29.000 I mean, that's the...
00:47:30.000 That is the...
00:47:32.000 And, you know, I was driving over, I'm like, I want to talk about all the different conspiracies about it with Rogan, but I don't want to either.
00:47:39.000 What kind of conspiracies?
00:47:40.000 About the pandemic?
00:47:41.000 Yeah.
00:47:41.000 What are the conspiracies you're hearing other than 5G? 5G, Comet Impact.
00:47:47.000 Comet Impact?
00:47:48.000 Yeah.
00:47:49.000 I haven't heard that one.
00:47:50.000 Well, you're definitely not my wife. 1.00
00:47:54.000 I've mentioned it so many times to my wife.
00:47:56.000 She's like, Duncan, please.
00:47:59.000 Isn't there one that was supposed to fly by?
00:48:01.000 Like, there's a meteor that's supposed to fly by in the next...
00:48:05.000 Short amount of time.
00:48:06.000 Yeah.
00:48:07.000 I mean, check out Reddit Conspiracy.
00:48:08.000 My conspiracy friends, I'm not even going to attempt to give the download on it, because, like, y'all have done a pretty good job of putting all the pieces together out there.
00:48:16.000 Whether they're real or not, I don't fucking know, but I enjoy reading them late at night.
00:48:20.000 And they've been giving me terrible dreams. 0.92
00:48:22.000 But the asteroid theory is that...
00:48:26.000 Okay, so...
00:48:28.000 We want to have, by we, I mean they want to have maximum survivability for the planet.
00:48:34.000 They're not out to like, they don't want people to die.
00:48:37.000 They're not trying to, it's not a bioengineered thing that's designed to like cull the population, which is another of the theories.
00:48:43.000 But rather, there was a plan, which is like, what's our plan if we do see a meteor is going to impact?
00:48:51.000 The planet.
00:48:51.000 What's our plan?
00:48:52.000 Do we let people know that the meteor is going to impact?
00:48:56.000 Well, it depends.
00:48:58.000 Like if an astronomer that's not connected to one of our labs or whatever sees it, they're going to let people know.
00:49:02.000 And then, you know, so that's a whole different, I think, method of like reacting.
00:49:06.000 But what if we see a thing that they don't know about?
00:49:10.000 There's some probability, even a 20% chance the thing impacts the Earth, right?
00:49:15.000 Or there's some cosmic event maybe we're not even aware of, like the Sun doing some weird shit that we don't even know happens because it's like deep data, right?
00:49:25.000 So maybe it's not an asteroid.
00:49:27.000 It's a cosmic event that's approaching, right?
00:49:29.000 And so there's got to be a plan.
00:49:31.000 And it's like, well, if we just tell people that the Sun's going to do like a mile blip, which is going to destroy all...
00:49:39.000 Satellites and destroy all GPS and just that alone would cause runs on the bank mass panics like in people would start looting and shit and that's not you don't want that because ideas like we want them to hole up in their houses till the shit passes so we get maximum survivability and so the whole pandemic this is a conspiracy theory not real the whole pandemic was A plan to get people to go inside,
00:50:08.000 store up food, get them off the roads, and wait for whatever this event is to pass.
00:50:14.000 And as soon as the event passes, you'll find that all of a sudden it's like, what do you know?
00:50:20.000 The curves are all dropping off.
00:50:22.000 What do you know?
00:50:22.000 And then we'll all be back because the thing they were worried about didn't happen.
00:50:26.000 Also, it could be a test.
00:50:27.000 For that.
00:50:28.000 Can I just stop you?
00:50:30.000 Please stop me.
00:50:31.000 It's hard to believe.
00:50:32.000 Thank you.
00:50:32.000 There's a real virus.
00:50:34.000 They can image it.
00:50:37.000 But I know what it looks like.
00:50:39.000 They've been able to test for it.
00:50:41.000 Antibodies.
00:50:43.000 I feel like I'm talking to my wife.
00:50:44.000 It's a real virus.
00:50:45.000 It's a confusing virus.
00:50:46.000 It's so good that I married the person I married because if not, I would probably be digging a hole to crawl into out of pure paranoia because she does do this to me. 0.72
00:50:56.000 She's like, Duncan, do you think there isn't a COVID virus?
00:51:01.000 You think there's no virus out there?
00:51:03.000 Do you think that maybe...
00:51:05.000 So all the scientists that have identified COVID are all part of this thing to keep us from the meteor thing?
00:51:12.000 And then I'm like, yeah, thank you!
00:51:14.000 Because I'll start getting freaked out from it, but I'll answer your question.
00:51:18.000 If I had to answer that, I would say, oh no, it's real.
00:51:22.000 How many people have died from it now?
00:51:24.000 What is the current COVID death count?
00:51:26.000 It crossed 50,000 today, this morning.
00:51:28.000 50,000?
00:51:30.000 Here's something that I found out that's kind of odd.
00:51:33.000 If you die of something else, people are still dying, right?
00:51:36.000 They're still dying of high blood pressure, strokes, heart attacks, still killing more people than anything, right?
00:51:44.000 Right.
00:52:02.000 It's not like they don't get the flu.
00:52:04.000 It's not like they don't get a cold.
00:52:05.000 It's not like they don't get pneumonia.
00:52:06.000 All these things exist with or without COVID. People are still dying from them.
00:52:10.000 But if you die of one of those things and you have COVID, it's a COVID death.
00:52:15.000 So that's why it's so crazy.
00:52:19.000 It's like you don't really know what...
00:52:22.000 How many people are actually getting this thing, this COVID, and having a mild reaction?
00:52:28.000 How many people are having no reaction?
00:52:30.000 How many people are dying?
00:52:32.000 That's when they did that new UCLA study that came out that showed they think there's way more people that have been.
00:52:39.000 They think California alone is somewhere around 400,000 people getting infected.
00:52:43.000 And so the fatality rate is still pretty low.
00:52:46.000 But if that's the case, so what do we do?
00:52:50.000 We just let Let people die? 0.64
00:52:52.000 Or do we do this every time the flu comes around too now?
00:52:55.000 What if we get a particularly rough flu?
00:52:56.000 Is this a practice run for what we're going to do every time colds come through?
00:53:01.000 And they start killing old people?
00:53:02.000 Or killing sick people? 1.00
00:53:04.000 Or fat people? 1.00
00:53:05.000 When do we...
00:53:06.000 I mean, I wouldn't want to be the person that makes the call as to when people go back to work.
00:53:10.000 Because what if the second wave comes and a bunch of people die that didn't have to die?
00:53:14.000 But boy, if we set up a weird precedent.
00:53:16.000 You know, it's kind of weird.
00:53:18.000 We've shut everything down.
00:53:19.000 Yeah, man.
00:53:20.000 I mean, well, to me...
00:53:21.000 The part that makes sense is...
00:53:24.000 Well, we stopped the spread.
00:53:26.000 Well, also, the other thing is it's new.
00:53:29.000 I mean, there are coronaviruses.
00:53:30.000 We don't know what it is.
00:53:31.000 So we have the data on the flu.
00:53:34.000 We have the data on the cold.
00:53:35.000 We know how to treat the cold.
00:53:36.000 We know how to treat the flu. 1.00
00:53:37.000 But this fucking thing, we don't know what it is. 0.99
00:53:40.000 And there's conflicting data, too. 0.99
00:53:41.000 Yeah.
00:53:42.000 Yeah.
00:53:42.000 So I kind of get the like super, super, super intense, careful approach to it.
00:53:50.000 And I think if I had to make the decision, that would be the decision that I made.
00:53:54.000 But then also I hope whoever – and thank God people like us don't make those decisions.
00:53:59.000 Thank God.
00:54:00.000 But hopefully whoever's like making these decisions is aware of the fact – That like right now there's folks who are getting Meals on Wheels.
00:54:09.000 There's folks who are like on unemployment and lost their job and like I hope they're aware of the fact that like, and I'm sure they are, that the pressure of folks who are in this That horrendous economic position, the pressure on them at some point is going to exceed the humanity and compassion and empathy they're showing by not being in the demographic that's most likely to die and still staying inside,
00:54:38.000 losing their job.
00:54:39.000 That's love, man. 0.99
00:54:40.000 That's deep compassion because you don't want someone's granddad to suffocate on some new fucking Bat flu, right? 0.98
00:54:48.000 That's love and that's beautiful. 0.94
00:54:52.000 But at some point, that pressure is, people are going to be like, look, I don't want to kill anybody, I don't want to be a carrier, I don't ever want to hurt anybody, but my kid has got to have food.
00:55:04.000 And I have to work.
00:55:05.000 And, you know, and then I think somewhere there, hopefully by then there's at least a treatment they've discovered, or at least we get to a point where they've, you know, where maybe what's happening in Sweden, we get enough data on that to realize that there's other ways to do it that don't involve complete lockdown.
00:55:22.000 Yeah.
00:55:23.000 What they did was they sort of left everything open, but they all behaved as if there's the potential of contacting or transmitting, right?
00:55:34.000 Yeah.
00:55:35.000 Like they didn't wear masks, right?
00:55:37.000 It doesn't look like they're wearing masks.
00:55:39.000 It looks like they're...
00:55:40.000 They didn't close everything down.
00:55:42.000 They didn't close everything down.
00:55:43.000 They used to go to restaurants and pubs.
00:55:45.000 And is their death rate similar?
00:55:47.000 Well, the thing I saw was like...
00:55:50.000 If you look at nearby countries, the death rate is lower.
00:55:54.000 But weirdly, countries that were doing complete lockdowns have higher death rates than they do.
00:56:00.000 And, you know, look, the problem is that you have this glob of data that anyone can interpret.
00:56:07.000 And there's probably angles you can take on it that would show, look, yeah.
00:56:10.000 Yeah, there's a higher death rate, of course, in Sweden, because it's going to spread more if people aren't staying inside.
00:56:15.000 I mean, that seems pretty logical to me.
00:56:17.000 But then also, if you're showing some conflicting data where some other country in complete lockdown with a similar population or somehow equating their population with Sweden's population, if they're...
00:56:31.000 If they've got a higher death rate, then that's fucking terrifying, man, because the implication of it is like we really don't understand what this is.
00:56:38.000 There's other factors, too. 0.98
00:56:39.000 One big one in Sweden is not a dense population.
00:56:42.000 I don't think there's that many people in the entire country.
00:56:45.000 It's a very small place.
00:56:46.000 That's right.
00:56:46.000 How many people live in Sweden?
00:56:48.000 I think I looked this up the other day.
00:56:49.000 I think most of the people live in small villages of like less than 200. Yeah.
00:56:54.000 There you go.
00:56:55.000 Yeah.
00:56:55.000 So, you know, they probably don't travel that much or interact with each other that much.
00:57:01.000 They have plenty of space.
00:57:03.000 They don't travel that much.
00:57:04.000 I mean, tight together, I mean.
00:57:05.000 10.23 million for the entire country.
00:57:08.000 By the way, it's great.
00:57:10.000 I've been to Stockholm.
00:57:10.000 It was gorgeous.
00:57:12.000 Beautiful.
00:57:12.000 We did a show there, too.
00:57:14.000 They were really nice.
00:57:15.000 I enjoyed it very much.
00:57:17.000 Very, very friendly people.
00:57:18.000 But, you know, they have a lot of space.
00:57:20.000 They're not New York City.
00:57:22.000 New York City seems to be the epicenter in the United States, and for good reason.
00:57:26.000 Everyone's stacked on top of each other.
00:57:28.000 Everyone's interacting with each other on the streets, on the subways.
00:57:31.000 Moving around.
00:57:32.000 You gotta go to places. 1.00
00:57:33.000 There's fucking people everywhere. 1.00
00:57:34.000 They're everywhere. 1.00
00:57:35.000 Everywhere.
00:57:36.000 That, I think, is a terrible way to live. 0.96
00:57:40.000 Dude, I fucking love New York so much. 0.97
00:57:44.000 When I went there, it was so nice. 0.94
00:57:46.000 But yeah, it's nice to be on the West Coast.
00:57:47.000 And especially right now, Jamie was, you know, talking about like, think of the people right now in New York who are just in, you know, alone in an apartment, seeing the news that apparently spreads through like air conditioning ducts.
00:58:01.000 It's like, you know what I mean?
00:58:04.000 That's terrifying.
00:58:05.000 But, you know, again, I My opinion on it, in my old age, it has to be my opinion on things.
00:58:12.000 I'm going to trust scientists.
00:58:14.000 I'm just going to.
00:58:15.000 I didn't go to medical school. 0.97
00:58:19.000 I don't understand what the fuck a virus even is. 0.69
00:58:23.000 I don't remember. 0.96
00:58:24.000 I've been trying to remember.
00:58:25.000 I'm too lazy to Google how it works.
00:58:28.000 I know it gets into your DNA. It replaces it.
00:58:31.000 What I'm saying is...
00:58:34.000 Suggesting some kind of surrender to authority out of absolute weakness.
00:58:38.000 But if a large consensus of scientists are advising some specific method of dealing with this thing, let's listen to them, you know?
00:58:48.000 And then just make sure that...
00:58:51.000 I feel bad for, like, I have a friend in Georgia right now.
00:58:55.000 And like right now, he's become part of an experiment, a global experiment.
00:59:00.000 They're opening up Georgia right now.
00:59:03.000 And every state that opens up right now becomes an experiment.
00:59:08.000 We're going to get a lot of data from what happens from all these states opening up right now regarding the efficacy of a shutdown like we have right now.
00:59:19.000 And it could be that all of a sudden we realized we overreacted.
00:59:23.000 And you know what?
00:59:24.000 I'd much rather overreact than underreact in situations like this. 0.99
00:59:27.000 It's like, fuck, we overreacted. 0.99
00:59:30.000 Whoops. 1.00
00:59:30.000 Yeah, we thought there was the potential to think of mutate and kill fuck tons of people, way more than the flu, and we were wrong. 1.00
00:59:38.000 And it fucked up the economy. 0.98
00:59:39.000 But it's a lot better than what would have happened if it was some new smallpox or black plague. 0.90
00:59:44.000 Also, look, it killed 50,000 people, right?
00:59:48.000 What if we did nothing?
00:59:49.000 Would it have killed like 400,000?
00:59:51.000 Exactly.
00:59:52.000 I mean, that could have happened.
00:59:54.000 I mean, it could have compounded.
00:59:56.000 It seems like for whatever reason, these places where people are stacked on top of each other, not only do they get it, but they get it way worse.
01:00:05.000 Yeah.
01:00:06.000 It seems like, what's that expression?
01:00:08.000 Viral load, right?
01:00:10.000 Yeah.
01:00:10.000 Like the viral load is greater.
01:00:12.000 And if you're around a bunch of sick people, there was one awful story about this family in New Jersey.
01:00:18.000 And like the mother died and the oldest son died and the middle son died.
01:00:24.000 Like three people died from one family vacation or one family dinner. 1.00
01:00:28.000 They got together and one of them had it and just spread through the fucking house. 0.99
01:00:32.000 It's not the flu. 0.99
01:00:33.000 You know, it's obviously, it's something way more intense.
01:00:37.000 But the people that have survived the flu, they'll probably survive that too. 0.99
01:00:41.000 But the people that, you know, were kind of hanging on edge, it seems like anybody with a respiratory problem is in deep shit. 1.00
01:00:48.000 Anybody who smokes is in deep shit. 1.00
01:00:50.000 People with high blood pressure, diabetes, deep shit. 1.00
01:00:53.000 It's not the same with everybody. 1.00
01:00:54.000 Other people, like Idris Elba walks it off.
01:00:57.000 You know, healthy.
01:00:58.000 I know.
01:00:59.000 But he has asthma, apparently.
01:01:00.000 Oh, really?
01:01:00.000 Yeah, he had asthma, but he didn't, you know, there's a lot of people that, I don't, that Chris Cuomo guy seems fine.
01:01:05.000 I know he says he gets chills, but he seems fine.
01:01:07.000 He seems rattled, though.
01:01:09.000 You know, I've got, I've got, not in a bad way, yeah, exactly, like I didn't, that was one, watching him.
01:01:14.000 Was one of the things that was legitimately creeping me out is like as you're watching him and he did a great job holding it together, man.
01:01:21.000 He didn't panic and he like put something out there that was like comforting to some degree. 0.98
01:01:25.000 But, you know, I was scanning his eyes and there were moments where I'm like, fuck, he's rattled. 0.98
01:01:29.000 Like whatever's happening to him at night is bad, bad. 0.99
01:01:33.000 Why is it happening at night?
01:01:34.000 What is the difference?
01:01:37.000 I don't understand that. 0.96
01:01:39.000 If you look fine in the day, how come at night, all of a sudden, everything's all fucked up? 0.98
01:01:42.000 Don't ask me, man. 0.99
01:01:43.000 I don't know.
01:01:44.000 I've noticed, though, sometimes if I get sick, night is always worse than the day.
01:01:48.000 I don't know why.
01:01:49.000 I don't know, man. 0.99
01:01:53.000 Whatever the fuck it is, to me, the part that really sucks... 0.99
01:01:58.000 I got friends who are immunocompromised, man. 0.99
01:02:01.000 And that means that they really will if they get it.
01:02:06.000 It's game over. 1.00
01:02:08.000 Fuck, it sucks. 1.00
01:02:10.000 And so there's that quality to it, too, where you're like... 1.00
01:02:14.000 Statistically, I don't know where I'm at.
01:02:16.000 Statistically, I think I'm on the cusp.
01:02:21.000 All of us have friends that are dead meat if this thing were to explode. 1.00
01:02:26.000 So fuck it. 1.00
01:02:27.000 I get staying inside, man. 1.00
01:02:30.000 I just know that eventually...
01:02:32.000 My brother was telling me every day, his neighbor...
01:02:36.000 My brother works from home.
01:02:40.000 He's a video editor every day and a producer every day.
01:02:44.000 He sees people are getting food deliveries because they can't from the state.
01:02:52.000 I don't know.
01:02:53.000 I'm just glad I don't have to...
01:02:55.000 I'm glad I don't have to be the one who makes decisions like this because that must be a weird thing to be in a position where any decision you make kills people.
01:03:04.000 Like, if you make the decision to open up, people are gonna, you know, die because they're gonna get sick.
01:03:11.000 If you don't make this decision to open up, there's a potential that, you know, just think of the mentally ill people right now.
01:03:18.000 No one's talking about that.
01:03:19.000 Like, I keep thinking of like the manic depressive people, the people who are already depressed, who now can't go outside, but are also getting blasted with apocalypse news.
01:03:28.000 I don't know what suicide rates are looking like right now, but like, you know what I mean?
01:03:32.000 So it's the decision to keep people shut down. 0.93
01:03:37.000 You know, what might result from that, those deaths might be secondary or tertiary or some shit. 0.98
01:03:44.000 But still, it's like, it just sucks to have to be in a position where you have to make those decisions. 0.98
01:03:50.000 And it's like, how awful to know.
01:03:53.000 It's just, it's like, brutal.
01:03:55.000 I feel terrible for them.
01:03:57.000 You know, anyone who's like, because I don't, you know...
01:03:59.000 I don't know what they're going to do either.
01:04:01.000 I mean, they're going to have to eventually assume...
01:04:04.000 The position that we're gonna have to slowly open up and start, you know, restaurants at half capacity and shit like that. 0.54
01:04:11.000 Yeah.
01:04:11.000 But when?
01:04:13.000 You know, I mean, they've said May 15th here.
01:04:15.000 That seems like an awful long time.
01:04:16.000 I know.
01:04:17.000 It's an awful long time to ask people to keep it together that don't have any money.
01:04:20.000 It's an awful long time.
01:04:22.000 It's an awful, awful long time.
01:04:24.000 It doesn't seem like the best idea either.
01:04:26.000 It seems like the best idea would be to quarantine all the people that are very vulnerable, to make sure that they quarantine and make sure that people who know them are aware, you know, do not, you know, touch them or touch anything around them.
01:04:37.000 If you could have potentially been in contact with something because they're immunocompromised.
01:04:41.000 That seems like the move.
01:04:43.000 The move seems like to quarantine the people, at this point at least, to self-quarantine, you know, tell them to quarantine people that are really vulnerable, older people, people with, you know, people that smoke, people with respiratory conditions.
01:04:57.000 Be aware that you're vulnerable, you know, and then you act accordingly.
01:05:01.000 But everybody else, we need to...
01:05:03.000 At some point in time, whether it's this week or next week or three weeks from now, when they think it is, May 15th, right?
01:05:08.000 That's like three weeks from now.
01:05:09.000 They're gonna have to open the doors.
01:05:11.000 And when they open the doors, people are gonna be starving.
01:05:13.000 They're gonna be starving.
01:05:14.000 Yeah, man.
01:05:15.000 You know, they haven't worked.
01:05:16.000 There's so many people that are so behind their debts.
01:05:18.000 They're getting, you know, debt collectors are still wanting their money.
01:05:22.000 Yeah.
01:05:22.000 Especially if they had loans or, you know, anything that was outstanding before all this happened.
01:05:27.000 They're already in debt.
01:05:29.000 Trying to work their way out of a hole and they can't even work.
01:05:31.000 This is the only time we've ever been in a position where people can't even go to work.
01:05:34.000 Yeah.
01:05:35.000 What do you...
01:05:36.000 Okay, so I've heard like three ideas regarding what to do.
01:05:41.000 One of them is like incredibly controversial.
01:05:44.000 I wonder what you think about it, which is like using the same data that they use in like...
01:06:00.000 I don't trust anyone to have all that data and only use it for that.
01:06:05.000 There's no way.
01:06:06.000 That data would be so valuable if everyone had a chip.
01:06:10.000 And everyone was tracked.
01:06:12.000 You knew where everyone was all throughout the day.
01:06:15.000 Oh, you're only going to use that to see who's got coronavirus?
01:06:18.000 Really? 0.99
01:06:19.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00
01:06:20.000 Once that technology exists, it's not like they're going to murder it at the end of the fucking season. 0.99
01:06:24.000 Well, we've got no more COVID, so let's just stop all this technology. 0.97
01:06:29.000 No chance.
01:06:29.000 They'll find a new reason to use it.
01:06:31.000 They'll be able to track the flu.
01:06:33.000 They'll be able to track adulterers.
01:06:34.000 They'll be able to track robbers.
01:06:36.000 They'll be able to track carjackers.
01:06:38.000 They'll be able to track...
01:06:40.000 You name it, man.
01:06:41.000 You name it.
01:06:42.000 These are the right-wing activists that like to yell at abortion clinics.
01:06:46.000 Let's track them. 1.00
01:06:47.000 Now a Republican gets in office, hey, these are the people that are the fucking animal rights activists that always get in front of the meat plant. 0.99
01:06:54.000 Let's track them. 0.99
01:06:55.000 You can't track people.
01:06:58.000 And they're already doing it anyway. 1.00
01:06:59.000 You talk to Snowden, they're already tracking you by your goddamn phone. 1.00
01:07:01.000 But I like the fact that I could take this phone and chuck it in the fucking river. 1.00
01:07:06.000 I could just chuck it. 1.00
01:07:07.000 I'd throw it in the ocean.
01:07:08.000 No, I wouldn't even do that.
01:07:11.000 I'm environmentally conscious. 1.00
01:07:11.000 No matter what you say, someone's gonna be like, you bastard. 1.00
01:07:14.000 But I wouldn't. 1.00
01:07:15.000 I really feel strongly about that.
01:07:17.000 I would never litter like that. 0.99
01:07:19.000 But point is, I can get rid of that fucking following. 0.99
01:07:21.000 It's not a part of my body. 0.99
01:07:23.000 Once they're injecting, I've talked about this way too many podcasts in a row, but there's a company that had these people inject a microchip in their arm and they could wave it in front of the soda machine and get fucking snacks with it and shit. 0.95
01:07:36.000 It was like your tab was on your arm. 0.97
01:07:40.000 Mike's here, open the door.
01:07:42.000 It unlocks the door. 0.99
01:07:42.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99
01:07:44.000 And we were saying, what if that company fires you? 1.00
01:07:46.000 What if Chipotle fires you and you got that Chipotle chip in your arm?
01:07:50.000 But I was management!
01:07:51.000 It's not a regular Chipotle chip!
01:07:54.000 You imagine?
01:07:55.000 You imagine? 1.00
01:07:56.000 And now you have to work for fucking 7up, and 7up's like, we're going to have to cut your arm off. 0.99
01:08:00.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:08:00.000 Because it keeps registering that you're a Chipotle invader. 0.99
01:08:03.000 You know you- 10 chips in your arm, because you worked at- Right.
01:08:05.000 Just kept getting a new job area.
01:08:07.000 Just keep getting new chips.
01:08:07.000 Mike, why don't you get those chips removed?
01:08:09.000 I like them.
01:08:09.000 They remind me I've had a hard life and a lot of good jobs.
01:08:13.000 Oh, God!
01:08:14.000 All these chips all around his arm.
01:08:15.000 I'm proud of my chips!
01:08:18.000 That's the way I've always been.
01:08:19.000 Always been a hard worker.
01:08:21.000 Oh, I earned these chips.
01:08:23.000 I earned all these chips.
01:08:24.000 Every single one of these chips means...
01:08:26.000 You know, also, when you combine those chips with augmented reality so that you could have a visual floating around them as, like, the mascot of the various companies they work for.
01:08:35.000 Or, like, you know, like, let's say we do get the chip, right?
01:08:38.000 The chip exists, and we all just somehow decide, like, yeah, well...
01:08:42.000 Let's just do it. 1.00
01:08:43.000 I mean, fuck the whole book of revelations. 1.00
01:08:44.000 That's just the whole bullshit. 1.00
01:08:45.000 The whole mark of the beast. 1.00
01:08:46.000 I'm not going to pay any attention.
01:08:47.000 Let's get the chip. 0.99
01:08:48.000 That was just some old ancient bullshit. 0.99
01:08:50.000 Alright, come on. 1.00
01:08:51.000 I want to get sodas without having to pull out my fucking wallet. 1.00
01:08:54.000 It sucks. 1.00
01:08:55.000 I'm sick of it. 0.99
01:08:56.000 I'm exhausted all day from this activity.
01:08:58.000 But we all get the chips.
01:09:00.000 And then what happens is...
01:09:02.000 And of course it would start off with a decision to make.
01:09:05.000 What data in the chip do you want people to be able to see with augmented reality? 0.99
01:09:10.000 And so this is where you run into what I think the future is going to look like with this shit. 0.96
01:09:15.000 It's like when you're walking around in your company and you're Employee of the Month and everybody's wearing augmented reality goggles, you're going to have some kind of Employee of the Month halo around you. 0.99
01:09:27.000 So everybody's aware that you made the most sales, you know?
01:09:34.000 It's going to be like that for like, you know, it's going to be brutal as far as, let's say, credit scores go, right?
01:09:42.000 Because if you've got a great credit score and you want to indicate to the world that if you want to Get into debt.
01:09:49.000 You can, baby, because you've got a great credit score. 0.98
01:09:51.000 You're going to have this glowing shit around you. 0.98
01:09:54.000 And the moment one person decides to reveal that, everybody's going to feel like they have to reveal it. 0.99
01:10:00.000 And if you see someone who doesn't have the good credit score crown or whatever, like the banner of great credit floating in front of them, you're like, yeah, you're probably fucked, right? 0.89
01:10:09.000 Like you made some bad decisions. 1.00
01:10:10.000 You'll see someone who's got a lot of shit. 1.00
01:10:12.000 Nice car, really nice clothes. 0.99
01:10:15.000 But you'll be like, yeah, but you know, he doesn't have the glowing medallion of good credit on his AR self, so I don't know if he really owns any of that stuff, you know?
01:10:26.000 Right.
01:10:26.000 And you know what I mean?
01:10:27.000 Then there's going to be all forms of that, which leads to venereal disease.
01:10:34.000 You could go into a bar, and if you just got tested, and you're clean, so to speak, then maybe there's a little AR Clean angel that flies around your head like, he doesn't have herpes!
01:10:48.000 We can bear back!
01:10:50.000 You know what I mean?
01:10:51.000 Those bits of data that if you don't show them...
01:10:57.000 There's some reason to be suspicious.
01:10:59.000 Yeah.
01:10:59.000 You know what I mean?
01:11:00.000 Oh, yeah.
01:11:00.000 You walk up to someone, they have no data.
01:11:03.000 They're just blank.
01:11:04.000 You'd be terrified.
01:11:05.000 Yeah.
01:11:05.000 You're just a person.
01:11:06.000 Who are you?
01:11:06.000 I'm just supposed to trust you.
01:11:08.000 Yeah, fuck that. 1.00
01:11:08.000 You could be a serial killer. 1.00
01:11:09.000 Fuck that. 1.00
01:11:10.000 We're gonna look back on times when we just would meet people like this and not have some halo to go by. 1.00
01:11:17.000 Yeah.
01:11:17.000 Like if I see Jamie, Jamie would have like a nice golden glow.
01:11:20.000 I'd be like, look at him.
01:11:21.000 He's got a high approval rating.
01:11:23.000 He's got some cash.
01:11:24.000 That's a good catch.
01:11:25.000 Yeah, there you go.
01:11:27.000 If you go to a nightclub, all the dudes who are glowing gold, people would be like, oh, and girls would like purple credit scores. 0.58
01:11:35.000 They'd come in, try to get close to the guys in the gold, try to get a little of that gold on them, clean up that credit.
01:11:42.000 Yeah, yeah, man.
01:11:43.000 Imagine if you knew, like if a girl was really hot, but you look at her credit card, oh my god, bank fraud. 1.00
01:11:48.000 Look at her. 0.97
01:11:49.000 She's a bank frauder. 1.00
01:11:50.000 Yeah.
01:11:51.000 You don't get that gray outline unless you do bank fraud.
01:11:55.000 That's right.
01:11:56.000 Yeah.
01:11:56.000 And there's no way to get it off.
01:11:58.000 Can you imagine?
01:11:59.000 Yeah.
01:12:00.000 There's going to be big arguments about that where it's like, you know, currently, if you're a registered sex offender... 0.99
01:12:07.000 We know where you fucking live. 0.99
01:12:09.000 And I get it, man. 1.00
01:12:10.000 Like, that's good.
01:12:10.000 That's good.
01:12:11.000 But then it's going to be like, okay, but do we put that in their augmented reality chip profile so that anywhere they go, people are seeing that this is a person that hurts kids, you know? 0.97
01:12:24.000 And there's going to be a conversation about that where people are like, fuck yeah, that's what you do. 0.97
01:12:28.000 Like, I want to know if some weirdo is getting anywhere close to my kid. 0.71
01:12:36.000 Anyway, that's the slippery slope that leads to the dystopian Black Mirror future and that great episode where there was...
01:12:46.000 And I think they are doing it in China.
01:12:48.000 They're doing it in China.
01:12:49.000 They have a legit social score in China.
01:12:51.000 This is a real concern if this technology does get released in time and people start using their COVID tests and putting it on their QR code, that little thing that you do with the photo, and it scans you like a plane ticket.
01:13:06.000 You know, like, oh, you're good, Duncan.
01:13:07.000 Seems like you're good.
01:13:08.000 Make sure you keep that phone on you everywhere you go.
01:13:10.000 No problem, officer.
01:13:11.000 You know, Duncan, we got a...
01:13:15.000 Email the other day, it shows that you have been going, I don't know who has this data, but you've been going down to San Clemente during the lockdown?
01:13:25.000 Yeah.
01:13:25.000 To stay with friends?
01:13:26.000 No, there's a glory hole there that I like.
01:13:28.000 This is not allowed.
01:13:29.000 What?
01:13:29.000 You're traveling.
01:13:31.000 Like, see, what if we do this?
01:13:33.000 What if we go into this scanning thing and then a new pandemic pops up and we go into lockdown again?
01:13:41.000 They're going to be able to find the people that aren't locking down.
01:13:43.000 What if you got to drive somewhere in the middle of the night to go get something?
01:13:48.000 Yeah.
01:13:48.000 Something important for your family?
01:13:50.000 Yeah.
01:13:50.000 Well, all of a sudden, you're being tracked, and then they call you.
01:13:53.000 Duncan, where are you going?
01:13:55.000 Where are you going?
01:13:56.000 We are looking at you right now.
01:13:58.000 You're in San Clemente.
01:13:58.000 You don't live in San Clemente.
01:14:00.000 Why are you down there?
01:14:01.000 Yeah.
01:14:02.000 But I, you know, just freedom?
01:14:04.000 I want to drive around?
01:14:05.000 I don't know.
01:14:05.000 This is a lockdown.
01:14:07.000 Yeah.
01:14:07.000 There's a new flu.
01:14:09.000 Go back home, Duncan. 1.00
01:14:10.000 You wanna kill people? 1.00
01:14:13.000 It's a weird power to give people. 0.99
01:14:16.000 The power to have a mayor tell you what you can do.
01:14:20.000 That's never happened before.
01:14:21.000 I'm not saying they're doing it because of that.
01:14:23.000 I know why they're doing it.
01:14:24.000 They're doing it to save lives.
01:14:26.000 I'm 100% for it.
01:14:27.000 Don't get me wrong here.
01:14:28.000 But still, that power that anybody has to say, you can't work, you gotta stay home, you can't go to the park, you can't go to the beach, That power's weird.
01:14:41.000 That's a lot of power, man.
01:14:43.000 Yeah.
01:14:44.000 You know, to be the person.
01:14:46.000 Gavin, may we open?
01:14:47.000 Not yet!
01:14:48.000 Yeah.
01:14:50.000 Yeah.
01:14:50.000 Not yet!
01:14:52.000 But what if they social distance?
01:14:54.000 I mean, they need to make money.
01:14:55.000 Yeah.
01:14:56.000 We need to save lives.
01:14:57.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:14:59.000 It sucks. 0.98
01:14:59.000 Yeah, this is no good answer. 0.98
01:15:01.000 It's a shit job, man. 1.00
01:15:03.000 It's like the shittiest. 1.00
01:15:04.000 That's the shittiest job because it's like no decision you make is going to make everybody happy. 1.00
01:15:10.000 Any decision you make is going to ruin someone's life, maybe kill them.
01:15:13.000 And so, yeah, all these people- Also, no one thought that was going to be a part of the job.
01:15:18.000 Right.
01:15:20.000 Yeah, you didn't think that.
01:15:21.000 You thought you were going to deal with like...
01:15:22.000 Yeah, Gavin wasn't like...
01:15:24.000 He didn't know that when he got in there, he was suddenly going to be potentially one of the war leaders in Mad Max.
01:15:30.000 He didn't understand that was going to be his world.
01:15:32.000 Dude, this is how poorly they thought this through.
01:15:35.000 Garcetti is giving people money to snitch.
01:15:39.000 They're giving people money to snitch on social distance violators.
01:15:43.000 What?
01:15:43.000 Yeah, say if you go over to your buddy Mike's house for a barbecue, there's eight people in that backyard, Helen.
01:15:48.000 Look! 1.00
01:15:49.000 That's fucked up. 1.00
01:15:50.000 Eight fucking people! 1.00
01:15:51.000 We're over here social distancing! 1.00
01:15:53.000 That cunt Duncan Trussell is over at Mike's house, barbecuing! 1.00
01:15:58.000 Drinking beers, probably wife swapping! 1.00
01:16:02.000 Pigs! 1.00
01:16:04.000 Wife swapping! 0.98
01:16:06.000 Then gasp!
01:16:08.000 Garcetti comes along and offers people money to rat you out.
01:16:13.000 How much did they get?
01:16:14.000 I was wondering if they've even done that yet.
01:16:16.000 It can't be real.
01:16:17.000 I saw that and just thought that's not real.
01:16:18.000 It was real.
01:16:19.000 They were offering people rewards.
01:16:20.000 What?
01:16:21.000 To rat out social distance violators. 0.99
01:16:24.000 Disgusting. 1.00
01:16:25.000 How you don't know that leads to Maoist China and fucking Stalinist Russia? 1.00
01:16:30.000 How you don't know that getting people to rat on people leads to North Korea? 1.00
01:16:36.000 I'm not saying we're gonna be in North Korea, but that kind of shit, that's where that comes from. 1.00
01:16:40.000 That's how it starts. 1.00
01:16:41.000 You can't pay people to rat people out, you fucking asshole. 1.00
01:16:46.000 What a shitty, poorly thought out idea that is. 1.00
01:16:49.000 No shit, man. 1.00
01:16:51.000 I saw something popped up on my Instagram. 0.99
01:16:53.000 Some company saying if you're aware that your bosses are violating software, like don't have licensed software, We'll give you a reward. 0.98
01:17:04.000 Inviting people, disgruntled employees who know that their boss is running stolen photoshop or whatever, to make a little money and fuck their boss over. 0.98
01:17:14.000 That invitation to snitch, that is a satanic invitation, man. 0.99
01:17:20.000 I don't care what level it's at like in general unless you're looking at like hardcore Snowden level whistleblower like you've been down in the deep underground military bases and you saw the fucking thing in the egg that could read your mind and you're like I can't keep it to myself! 0.99
01:17:36.000 I'm gonna fucking tell people! 0.99
01:17:40.000 You know, I get that, but like any other versions of it, yeah, fuck that. 1.00
01:17:46.000 Don't invite us to snitch. 1.00
01:17:47.000 Don't encourage that behavior. 1.00
01:17:49.000 There's better ways to do it, I'm sure, than like bounties on your fucking neighbors. 1.00
01:17:54.000 That's fucked up, man. 1.00
01:17:55.000 So fucked up. 1.00
01:17:57.000 It's just so fucked up that someone who would get as high as mayor of Los Angeles Would let an idea like that slip through the cracks. 1.00
01:18:05.000 Like, what fucking fascist do you have working in that office that, like, I got an idea! 1.00
01:18:11.000 Pay people to rat people out! 1.00
01:18:13.000 These fucks, they haven't been working! 1.00
01:18:15.000 They need money for masks! 1.00
01:18:17.000 Yeah, that's it.
01:18:19.000 What is it?
01:18:19.000 He did say snitches get rewards, but he said it's the opposite of snitches get stitches.
01:18:24.000 I can't find anything...
01:18:25.000 Oh, no, they'll definitely get stitches.
01:18:26.000 I can't find anything saying, like, they get 50 bucks, 100 bucks, this is the reward you get.
01:18:30.000 He might be like...
01:18:30.000 The opposite of snitches get stitches.
01:18:32.000 As if they're not still snitches, and as if snitches don't still get stitches.
01:18:36.000 Right.
01:18:37.000 What are you talking about?
01:18:38.000 Are you going to absolutely...
01:18:41.000 Make sure that these people don't get beat up for being snitches.
01:18:44.000 You're going to step in with cops, give them 24-hour security guards. 0.99
01:18:47.000 If you find out that your neighbor ratted you out for money, oh my god, you'd want to kill him. 0.85
01:18:54.000 It would be like, what happened to that dude? 0.99
01:18:56.000 What's his face?
01:18:58.000 Ron Paul's kid?
01:19:01.000 You know what I'm talking about?
01:19:02.000 No.
01:19:03.000 The congressman who got tackled?
01:19:05.000 Oh, that's right.
01:19:06.000 Rand Paul.
01:19:07.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:19:07.000 Rand Paul, his neighbor, was like, fuck you! 1.00
01:19:10.000 Just out of nowhere tackles him, smashes his ribs. 1.00
01:19:13.000 He lost a piece of his lung.
01:19:15.000 Yeah, man. 1.00
01:19:16.000 That's fucked up. 0.99
01:19:17.000 And it's like, because what you're asking for there, which is another thing that I think the state, anytime anyone starts doing this, then you really have to start thinking about who you voted for. 0.99
01:19:27.000 But like, because the idea is like, I love it when... 0.92
01:19:31.000 You know, and I'm cheesy, and I am a fucking hippie, and I get accused of stoner talking shit, but yeah, I want there to be world peace, and I want people to love each other. 0.98
01:19:41.000 And when I see, you know, any even the slightest thing that like transcends political divides, We're like, you know, people who've hated fucking Trump and people Trump have hated. 0.99
01:19:54.000 I saw something where like, I can't remember who it was. 0.96
01:19:57.000 Like, God, what's the name of the Mormon politician that was running for president against Trump?
01:20:03.000 Mitt Romney?
01:20:04.000 Romney!
01:20:04.000 So some dude Like, voted against releasing money to people who don't have jobs.
01:20:12.000 And Mitt Romney tweeted, well, that senator, whoever he was, tested positive for being an asshole. 1.00
01:20:20.000 And Mitt Romney said that! 1.00
01:20:22.000 And fucking, you know, and then, like, there was this just flickering moment where Trump retweets that or says something about it and says, like, I didn't know he had that sense of humor, but I liked it. 0.99
01:20:32.000 And, like... 1.00
01:20:33.000 For that one stupid moment, there's a second where it's like, that's, we're supposed to be on the same team! 0.99
01:20:40.000 And like, you know, that's not a political statement. 0.99
01:20:44.000 That's like a statement of survivability. 0.97
01:20:45.000 And when you have a fucking, when you have a, and again, I'm not saying bow down to the state or anything like that either. 0.98
01:20:52.000 That's the opposite of what I'm saying. 0.99
01:20:53.000 I'm not saying, therefore, we all gotta be on the side of the president! 0.99
01:20:57.000 None of that shit. 1.00
01:20:58.000 I'm not saying any of that shit, man. 0.99
01:20:59.000 So don't take this the wrong way, because that's not what I'm saying. 0.99
01:21:02.000 I get it.
01:21:02.000 What I'm saying is, when anything that divides one neighbor from the next, anything that invites neighbors to divide instead of unite, is cancerous, literally, for society, in the sense that what's going to start happening is the...
01:21:18.000 The pixel of society is the neighbors.
01:21:21.000 That's like the connection between your neighbors makes up the tapestry of the entire country. 0.97
01:21:26.000 And that connection, if it's broken or weird or fucked up, then that's fucking everything up. 0.98
01:21:33.000 And so to invite that, invite anything that fucks that up. 0.97
01:21:36.000 Is, to me, really, really long-term disastrous.
01:21:41.000 It's like, the idea would be like, hey, is your neighbor an old person?
01:21:46.000 Go find out if your neighbor's an old person and can't get food.
01:21:49.000 And if they are and you get food to them, we'll pay for it.
01:21:52.000 How about that?
01:21:53.000 Yes.
01:21:54.000 That's beautiful! 0.99
01:21:55.000 You know someone who's fucked up right now, let us know so we can make sure their kids aren't starving. 1.00
01:22:03.000 Man, what about the fucking kids whose parents are right now super fucking sick with this shit? 1.00
01:22:09.000 We need governors and we need people saying, you need to know where the kids are in the building whose parents are sick. 1.00
01:22:17.000 So we can make sure those kids are getting taken care of while their parents are in bed and shit. 1.00
01:22:22.000 Like, so, fuck that. 1.00
01:22:23.000 That is what people get rewards for. 0.99
01:22:26.000 Why don't we have a way of monetizing kindness and acts of, like, grace to your neighbors instead of monetizing, like, you becoming, like, literally what is one...
01:22:39.000 A universally derided thing, which is a snitch.
01:22:42.000 You don't want to be a snitch. 1.00
01:22:44.000 Fuck snitches get stitches. 1.00
01:22:45.000 Maybe they don't get stitches, but man, I'll tell you, when you die, Wouldn't want to be you. 1.00
01:22:51.000 Wouldn't want to be a snitch in the afterlife.
01:22:53.000 I'll tell you that, man.
01:22:55.000 You get devoured by spirit wolves.
01:22:58.000 Spirit wolves? 0.99
01:22:59.000 I'm sure.
01:22:59.000 You don't get the experience of seeing your mom come running to you with a bowl of soup.
01:23:06.000 It's your mom.
01:23:07.000 She comes running to you and you think it's a bowl of soup, but you look and it's your wife's head. 0.88
01:23:12.000 And then you look back up.
01:23:13.000 It's a spirit wolf.
01:23:14.000 It's like, so you thought it was smart to snitch in that dimension, huh?
01:23:17.000 Wow.
01:23:18.000 Nah.
01:23:18.000 Nah.
01:23:19.000 It eats your soul forever.
01:23:21.000 Yeah, maybe.
01:23:22.000 Just don't snitch. 0.99
01:23:23.000 That's fucked up. 0.99
01:23:24.000 Well, it's just ridiculous that someone in a position of real leadership, right? 1.00
01:23:29.000 You're the mayor of a huge city.
01:23:32.000 And you would think that that would be a good idea.
01:23:35.000 Listen, people are going to snitch on people anyway.
01:23:38.000 But to encourage them with financial reward is crazy. 0.51
01:23:42.000 Crazy.
01:23:42.000 It is crazy.
01:23:43.000 And it's so poorly thought out. 1.00
01:23:46.000 Yeah, that's a dumb idea to put out there. 0.99
01:23:48.000 Such a poor understanding of human nature. 0.99
01:23:52.000 Yeah.
01:23:52.000 Like, you don't know where this goes?
01:23:54.000 Yeah.
01:23:55.000 And also, in a time of great duress, you're encouraging people to snitch?
01:24:01.000 Yeah.
01:24:02.000 This is absolutely the time we've got to be encouraging camaraderie.
01:24:06.000 Yeah.
01:24:06.000 This is when things are weird.
01:24:08.000 Everybody's forced into the same position.
01:24:10.000 No one can do what they want.
01:24:11.000 When was the last time you were on stage?
01:24:13.000 I haven't been on stage in a month.
01:24:15.000 I've been doing private shows for my son.
01:24:21.000 Literally, our job has stopped and our job might not come back until January.
01:24:26.000 Yeah, that's right.
01:24:27.000 Maybe.
01:24:28.000 Who knows?
01:24:29.000 Who knows?
01:24:29.000 We don't know.
01:24:30.000 I've got some gigs booked and I don't know if I'm going to be able to do them.
01:24:32.000 I got a gig booked in September.
01:24:34.000 I got two in September.
01:24:35.000 I got a couple in October.
01:24:37.000 I got Octobers. 0.98
01:24:39.000 But it's like, also, it's not like you should be, like, you can't really promote the show right now without seeming like a blazing dick. 0.91
01:24:44.000 I don't want to encourage people to go out. 0.86
01:24:46.000 And it's like, yeah, that's the problem, man.
01:24:50.000 But, here's the thing.
01:24:53.000 Whatever the state is doing, the state's going to do.
01:24:56.000 This is my favorite Jesus saying.
01:24:58.000 Offer unto Caesar what is Caesar's.
01:25:00.000 Which is like, you know, there's a game going on here with power.
01:25:04.000 And if you think you're going to subvert that game, maybe, probably not. 0.99
01:25:07.000 Best thing to do, let the dragon do whatever the fuck the dragon's going to do. 0.98
01:25:11.000 But don't let them cause you to forget that you don't need... 0.97
01:25:17.000 The state to go over to leave a note on your neighbor's door asking if they're okay.
01:25:23.000 We don't need the mechanisms of some bureaucracy to pick up trash. 1.00
01:25:30.000 That was the thing that happened when the fucking national parks all got defunded because of this bullshit. 1.00
01:25:35.000 All of a sudden, people were taking pictures of garbage in the national parks, right? 1.00
01:25:41.000 And the implication of that is We can't clean this up ourselves.
01:25:46.000 We need a state official to come and pick the trash up. 1.00
01:25:49.000 And it's nice that they do that, and we pay taxes for that, and they should do that. 0.99
01:25:53.000 But if they're not doing it, and we're waiting for some hero from the state to come in and fix our fucking problems, That's lazy. 0.99
01:26:01.000 That's bad thinking. 0.99
01:26:02.000 I think as a people, the idea is more to transcend that addiction to being saved.
01:26:11.000 That addiction that for sure someone's coming.
01:26:13.000 Sometimes they come.
01:26:14.000 Right.
01:26:15.000 But sometimes they don't. 0.99
01:26:16.000 And that's no reason to put off just the basic shit, man. 0.99
01:26:21.000 We put out sometimes in front of our house. 0.99
01:26:25.000 We'll just put out shit to give to people. 0.98
01:26:28.000 We've got fruit trees. 0.99
01:26:29.000 There's fruit. 1.00
01:26:30.000 The garden's got some shit growing in it. 0.99
01:26:33.000 I'll put it out there. 1.00
01:26:34.000 And people take every bit of it.
01:26:37.000 You come back at the end of the day, it's, you know, we've got flowers.
01:26:40.000 So cut some flowers and just leave flowers out there in case someone wants to bring a flower to somebody.
01:26:44.000 It's an act of trust because you don't know what, I might be covered in like COVID mucus doing like, rose for my neighbors! 0.98
01:26:52.000 But that being said, I don't know, maybe they're desanitizing, but my point is, like, cool shit happens. 0.77
01:26:58.000 Sometimes you go out to that box and, like, they've replaced something. 0.88
01:27:02.000 Like, we gave flowers away, we came out, and then someone had put different kinds of flowers in the box for those flowers.
01:27:08.000 You know what I mean?
01:27:08.000 Sounds like you got a stalker.
01:27:10.000 Yeah, actually, now that I think about it, the flowers...
01:27:15.000 You know, it did seem like there was something like sticky and creamy on the flowers.
01:27:21.000 But, you know, I'm saying like, again, this to me, not getting too much in the macro, because I'll go insane if I get in the macro, getting into the micro, which is your direct, literally your direct neighbors, and like making some connection with them.
01:27:38.000 You know, like the guy who lives across the street, we talked for like two minutes and it was wonderful.
01:27:43.000 And he's like, if you need tools, just let me know.
01:27:47.000 I got a ton of tools.
01:27:49.000 Just you can like, you know, message me and I'll come and leave them here and you can come and get them. 0.99
01:27:55.000 Shit like that. 0.99
01:27:56.000 That's nice. 1.00
01:27:56.000 It's cool. 1.00
01:27:57.000 And it's like, it's just beautiful.
01:27:59.000 It's like, that's what it's supposed to be like.
01:28:00.000 Yeah, that's nice.
01:28:01.000 You got a good neighbor.
01:28:02.000 That's it.
01:28:03.000 Yeah.
01:28:04.000 Having good neighbors is everything.
01:28:05.000 Everything.
01:28:06.000 People that hate their neighbors, like, man, you should just move.
01:28:08.000 Save yourself some agony.
01:28:09.000 Yeah, well, you can't sometimes.
01:28:11.000 That's the problem.
01:28:12.000 But we all need...
01:28:12.000 We talked about this before.
01:28:13.000 We need to find a cul-de-sac and all buy houses there.
01:28:16.000 You mean the cult?
01:28:18.000 Yes.
01:28:18.000 I know.
01:28:19.000 You think a ranch would do the trick?
01:28:21.000 It's tough to get people to live on a ranch.
01:28:24.000 No, I think...
01:28:27.000 I know what you're talking about.
01:28:29.000 It's not that hard.
01:28:30.000 I think the way you do it is in phases, right?
01:28:35.000 So the first thing would be just get the land, right?
01:28:38.000 Hire an architect.
01:28:40.000 Yeah, hire an architect.
01:28:42.000 Bring in Alex Gray.
01:28:46.000 That thing that he did in upstate New York.
01:28:48.000 It's beautiful.
01:28:48.000 Have you been there personally?
01:28:49.000 I've been there.
01:28:50.000 Unfortunately, I haven't been there since its completion.
01:28:54.000 I don't even know if it's completed, but I've been there in the early phases.
01:28:57.000 And yeah, that for sure is a temple.
01:28:59.000 It's no joke.
01:29:00.000 It's not like they're just saying it's a temple.
01:29:01.000 That's a real...
01:29:02.000 And the way he printed those weird faces, those multi-feature faces and used them in the corners of the building.
01:29:09.000 What does he call it again?
01:29:10.000 I can't remember.
01:29:11.000 I'm sorry.
01:29:12.000 Cosm.
01:29:13.000 Oh, Cosm.
01:29:14.000 I thought you meant what he called those faces.
01:29:15.000 He has a name for the faces, too.
01:29:17.000 Is that the Chapel of Sacred Mirrors?
01:29:19.000 Is that what it sounds for?
01:29:20.000 But isn't that...
01:29:20.000 Cosm used to be what he called the place in New York City, right?
01:29:24.000 He had the place in Manhattan.
01:29:25.000 Yeah, they had this...
01:29:26.000 I think they still...
01:29:27.000 Well, they still do have a beautiful place in New York.
01:29:31.000 Or like an artist loft there, I believe.
01:29:34.000 But they ended up realizing it was time to...
01:29:37.000 Spread their wings.
01:29:38.000 Build a temple.
01:29:39.000 Yeah.
01:29:39.000 And then really go somewhere in nature.
01:29:43.000 Yeah.
01:29:43.000 They're in like a small New York town, right?
01:29:46.000 Yeah, that's right.
01:29:47.000 New York state town.
01:29:47.000 Yeah.
01:29:48.000 It's a beautiful place.
01:29:50.000 And they're a legit religion?
01:29:52.000 Entheon, that's right.
01:29:52.000 And they're an actual religion, which they are.
01:29:54.000 They are an actual religion.
01:29:56.000 Yeah, it is a religion.
01:29:57.000 And by the way, a religion doesn't want anything from you.
01:30:00.000 They're not trying to get 10% of your money.
01:30:03.000 They're not giving you a bunch of rules to follow.
01:30:06.000 Nope.
01:30:06.000 They want you to worship love and creativity.
01:30:08.000 It's a really interesting place.
01:30:11.000 That's just an image of what it's going to look like. 0.96
01:30:13.000 I don't think it's really quite there yet, but holy shit. 0.93
01:30:16.000 Can you imagine coming up to that, like walking up to that front door and you're like, oh my god, what the hell am I looking at?
01:30:25.000 Dude, when I was on tour, they let me park my tour bus there because we needed a place to sleep for the night.
01:30:29.000 So I had to sleep in front of that thing in my tour bus.
01:30:32.000 And I hadn't even gotten to that phase, but I had Crazy dreams just sleeping there.
01:30:38.000 Yeah, it was wild man.
01:30:41.000 That's probably like one of those if you build it they will come things like do you imagine how hard you would trip inside that place?
01:30:47.000 Do you know I'm saying yeah now like I don't think it's I don't think it's a But like you could do DMT in a shitty apartment and still have some crazy mind-blowing trip But you can't tell me that coming to this place and going through this Entheon portal Yeah, 0.98
01:31:05.000 this isn't gonna have some fucking crazy effect on the way you trip. 0.83
01:31:09.000 Yeah, oh my god, but that you know that was the idea of a temple I mean that the idea is and not I'm not just saying to trip or whatever but the concept is like You know, let's acknowledge the fact that maybe our ideas aren't necessarily coming from inside our brains. 0.85
01:31:27.000 Let's just as a fantasy imagine that there is a divine intelligence that as one of the many beautiful things it pushes into this particular realm is art.
01:31:36.000 And that if we can figure out a way to purify the connection with that thing, then we become receivers for that.
01:31:41.000 And by doing that, we allow that thing to begin to exist in this world.
01:31:46.000 And a temple was a place that allowed that connection to be refined, purified, intentionalized.
01:31:53.000 And in that, there's a solidification called Inspiration or art or whatever the name is you want to give it, but it's really, it's like output from a place that maybe is, you know, a few floors up from the one we're at.
01:32:08.000 It's having a pretty wonderful party right now.
01:32:12.000 And like part of what we do is like allow it to drip into this realm, which is potentially a denser realm.
01:32:18.000 We're in the realm of matter.
01:32:19.000 It's dense, you know, and like ideas, if you look at your ideas, they're light.
01:32:24.000 They're like, they don't have a lot, at least my ideas, like, they're not like heavy.
01:32:31.000 Inspiration feels like barely anything.
01:32:33.000 In fact, it's so barely anything, think how easy it is to miss a good idea.
01:32:36.000 How easy it is to think something cool that maybe you want to write down for a joke, and you're just like, I'll write that down later, and then it's gone.
01:32:43.000 It's light.
01:32:44.000 It's light.
01:32:44.000 And so in part of what they're, I think, are all about, or I mean, again, that's me putting it on them.
01:32:50.000 They have a wonderful description on their website about what they're all about.
01:32:52.000 But to me, part of what creation is, is taking those things, allowing them to come through you, and then allowing this realm to do what it does, which is to crystallize them in a denser form that other people can enjoy.
01:33:05.000 And, you know, That enjoyment is, you know, that's enough. 0.98
01:33:12.000 It doesn't have to be some lofty ass shit. 0.99
01:33:14.000 It's just like people get a little, like, this tiny little smell of heaven, like a better place, a lighter place, a place that isn't. 0.99
01:33:24.000 Encumbered by so much bullshit is this particular realm that can like completely take someone out of a depression man that can completely give somebody the you know juice they need to like get back out there and like open up themselves to the world and not be shut down just one little like tiny tiny minuscule reminder of like don't worry there's this isn't the only place there's simultaneously amazing things happen happening which you're part of you just don't realize it yet And...
01:33:55.000 Don't worry. 0.91
01:33:57.000 McKinney, in one of his essays, that's what he'd say on mushrooms is he would get this message.
01:34:01.000 Don't worry, we're coming.
01:34:03.000 Don't worry, we're coming.
01:34:04.000 You know what I mean?
01:34:05.000 I think that's what art does.
01:34:07.000 It gives you this sense of, don't worry.
01:34:09.000 Right now, we're just building the runway.
01:34:11.000 Don't worry.
01:34:12.000 It's coming. 0.99
01:34:13.000 I know this place seems fucked up. 0.99
01:34:16.000 It's a little dense right now. 0.98
01:34:17.000 We're going to lighten it up.
01:34:19.000 How much of that is your own imagination, though?
01:34:21.000 How much of your own imagination stimulates your trips?
01:34:26.000 You know, I mean, we want to assume that we're really interacting with something, right?
01:34:31.000 Yeah.
01:34:31.000 On the other side.
01:34:33.000 But why do we assume that that's something?
01:34:35.000 Obviously, it's not static.
01:34:37.000 One of the things about tryptamine experiences is that things twist and change and morph and shift.
01:34:43.000 They never stay any one thing for any length of time.
01:34:46.000 They're always becoming other things and moving in and out of things.
01:34:52.000 Maybe that's just what happens over there.
01:34:55.000 Maybe these things are constantly shifting and changing.
01:34:59.000 You know?
01:35:00.000 Maybe what we're doing is we're trying to apply, when we think of how we are here in this life, we're trying to apply those laws to whatever we experience when we do that.
01:35:15.000 But it seems so alien.
01:35:18.000 When you have those experiences, it seems so alien.
01:35:20.000 You're not going to be able to bring any of that back.
01:35:22.000 You can give someone little glimpses.
01:35:24.000 And what Alex has done the best is capture like, oh, I know what he's doing.
01:35:28.000 Like those faces, those almost Egyptian-looking golden faces moving apart from each other. 0.92
01:35:34.000 You go, oh yeah, I've seen something.
01:35:36.000 Yeah, something sort of.
01:35:37.000 Yeah, there's a tryptamine part to that.
01:35:40.000 But whatever that would be in that dimension, it would change and become something else instantaneously, and then become something else.
01:35:47.000 And a lot of it has to do with how you're thinking.
01:35:51.000 Which is weird.
01:35:52.000 It's like, is the way you're thinking actually affecting those things?
01:35:57.000 Or is the way you're thinking affecting your perception of whatever this energy is and how it manifests itself visually?
01:36:05.000 Well, I mean, this is that, right?
01:36:06.000 Even in what you're saying, there's this assumption that Your thinking is separate from the thing.
01:36:13.000 Right, right, right.
01:36:13.000 And so we have a thought and we're thinking to ourselves, ah, I just got a good idea.
01:36:19.000 We don't know that if we had a different way of quantifying time and space, we might have just seen some ethereal mist drift through us that produced a thing we called a thought that we thought must be us.
01:36:31.000 So you look at a thing in that realm and it's shifting and converting.
01:36:34.000 And you notice that that conversion seems to be happening in relation to how you're feeling.
01:36:39.000 And now you're in a chicken or the egg conversation, which is like, who's reflecting who here?
01:36:47.000 Which of us is real and which of us isn't?
01:36:53.000 Am I just seeing who I actually am?
01:36:56.000 But because I live in a world of individuality and I live in a world where There's a separate quality to things.
01:37:04.000 I have to see you as separate.
01:37:05.000 Because if I don't, I can't see you.
01:37:09.000 I'm seeing myself in you, which is, I think, what is happening in this realm anyway.
01:37:15.000 Anything you're looking at right now is some phenomena being painted instantaneously by your imagination.
01:37:25.000 That's what the imagination is doing.
01:37:27.000 It's painting colors onto the universe of Infinite phenomena that your brain is doing out of habit.
01:37:36.000 Anyone you're around, you make an instantaneous assessment of that person.
01:37:45.000 You begin to realize, like, wait, I got a bad vibe about that person.
01:37:49.000 I bet something's off with them. 0.99
01:37:50.000 And then you go into, like, you're a TV psychic bullshit. 0.99
01:37:54.000 Like, oh, yeah, really? 0.99
01:37:55.000 Oh, really?
01:37:56.000 Is that the instincts you learned?
01:37:58.000 Where'd you learn that?
01:37:59.000 World of Warcraft?
01:38:00.000 The streets.
01:38:00.000 Yeah, you don't know.
01:38:01.000 But I've done that.
01:38:02.000 By the way, I'm talking about myself.
01:38:04.000 I'm like, yeah, I just can tell if a person is honest.
01:38:07.000 It's like, no, I can't. 0.77
01:38:08.000 You can definitely tell if a person's really fucking weird, though. 0.96
01:38:13.000 That's for sure. 0.73
01:38:13.000 You can tell if a person's off, like they're not really connecting with you, or they're pretending to connect with you, and you're like, whoa, I got a weird vibe from this guy. 0.73
01:38:20.000 Yeah, that.
01:38:21.000 Meanwhile, if you looked at what he said on paper and what you said on paper, it would be totally normal.
01:38:25.000 That's true.
01:38:26.000 Sometimes there's certain things, a violation of space, there's a weirdness to the way they look at you, a cadence.
01:38:32.000 Yeah.
01:38:33.000 They're like, oh, you're off!
01:38:35.000 I hate that feeling, man.
01:38:36.000 That's a deeper thing. 0.99
01:38:37.000 When the alarm bells go off like that, your hair starts standing up, you're like, I fucking hate that. 0.93
01:38:43.000 That's scary. 0.72
01:38:43.000 But, you know, I'm just saying, sometimes you're not right. 0.72
01:38:46.000 And this is like why you need empiricism and science, because sometimes you're not right. 0.67
01:38:51.000 Like, just because you think that's how shit is from some instinct inside of you, doesn't mean that's how things is. 0.95
01:38:57.000 You're biased. 0.98
01:38:58.000 And so that's the projection.
01:39:01.000 That's the part of you that you're still dealing with some trauma when you're a kid.
01:39:07.000 And you're seeing that trauma in all the things around you.
01:39:11.000 And so you're in an argument with someone who hurt you 20 years ago when you're talking to somebody who vaguely reminds you of that person.
01:39:20.000 And if you're in the UIV, you're still having the argument.
01:39:24.000 And if you're not aware that you're still having that argument, then you can start saying shit like, Why do I always end up with the same person?
01:39:31.000 It's like, I always draw this kind of person to me. 0.89
01:39:33.000 And it's like, well, maybe you're drawing the exact same kind of person to you.
01:39:37.000 Or maybe you're running the same movie on a different screen.
01:39:41.000 And being like, I've seen this before!
01:39:43.000 I keep seeing this movie!
01:39:45.000 You know?
01:39:45.000 It's like, that's the same movie.
01:39:47.000 It's like, you're seeing the same thing you're projecting.
01:39:50.000 It's just, it looks like now it's not...
01:39:53.000 Tom, it's Alex.
01:39:55.000 Or now it's not Lisa.
01:39:57.000 You're looking at Samantha, but you're still seeing this thing.
01:40:00.000 And that's the projection.
01:40:02.000 So anyway, that's the imagination.
01:40:05.000 And the question is, how powerful is that projection?
01:40:09.000 Because sometimes you start projecting onto someone how you think they are.
01:40:13.000 And if that person's weak or insecure, they'll start acting the way you think they are.
01:40:19.000 Yeah.
01:40:19.000 Now your projection has sprung to life in front of you because you've essentially animated a person with your expectation of them.
01:40:28.000 And then, because that person is acting the way you thought they would act, because they don't know the fuck they are, you're making monsters with your imagination. 0.97
01:40:35.000 Well, that's what cult leaders do, right? 1.00
01:40:37.000 That's how you start a sex cult. 0.97
01:40:39.000 How? 0.88
01:40:39.000 Same way. 0.88
01:40:40.000 You gotta take these people and put it in their head that this is what they do.
01:40:45.000 Right.
01:40:46.000 You put it in their head.
01:40:47.000 Right.
01:40:48.000 Yeah, that's right.
01:40:49.000 You say you see it.
01:40:50.000 Yes.
01:40:50.000 I see it in you.
01:40:51.000 Well, in this book, I told you about this book, Chaos, Tom O'Neill's book on Manson and the CIA. Yeah.
01:40:57.000 Did I tell you about this?
01:40:57.000 No, I saw your tweet about it.
01:40:58.000 Oh my God, dude.
01:41:00.000 What is...
01:41:00.000 Oh my...
01:41:01.000 Manson was tied up with the CIA? Oh my god.
01:41:03.000 Almost definitely a part of these fucking psychedelics LSD experiments that they were doing on hippies. 0.98
01:41:11.000 Almost definitely experimented on him, probably in prison, but almost definitely allowed him to get out of when he violated his parole, let him loose, let him free, supply him with acid, monitor him, They were monitoring him every step of the way. 0.99
01:41:26.000 They, like, fed that monster.
01:41:28.000 They knew that this guy had been incarcerated half his life. 0.98
01:41:30.000 He was a con man.
01:41:31.000 And they taught him how to be a cult leader. 0.87
01:41:33.000 They taught him how to be a cult leader. 0.69
01:41:35.000 And they probably taught him how to talk people into killing people.
01:41:40.000 And to do so with acid. 1.00
01:41:42.000 And they would dose him up and he would make people do all kinds of shit. 1.00
01:41:45.000 Like it would take people like, okay, you're going to fuck her and he's going to fuck him. 1.00
01:41:48.000 And they would put together these orgies. 1.00
01:41:51.000 He would put together orgies. 0.99
01:41:52.000 I mean, he would sodomize kids in front of them. 1.00
01:41:55.000 Like horrific shit. 1.00
01:41:57.000 Fucked up. 1.00
01:41:57.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
01:41:58.000 He was like some boy that was like 15 years old. 1.00
01:42:01.000 He did crazy, crazy shit. 1.00
01:42:04.000 They were all on acid. 1.00
01:42:06.000 They all committed murder.
01:42:07.000 He directed them to commit murder, but all of this very connected to the CIA's MK Ultra Project.
01:42:16.000 All of it.
01:42:16.000 Yeah, man.
01:42:17.000 Very connected in multiple different ways.
01:42:21.000 Connected to LSD and hippies, LSD and mind control, LSD, trying to come up with a Manchurian candidate, trying to get someone to commit murder and not even realize they did it. 0.94
01:42:31.000 Also connected to Lee Harvey Oswald.
01:42:34.000 Because Jack Ruby was all fucked up on that program when he killed Lee Harvey Oswald and afterwards went completely insane, was seen by the very same doctor that was running the clinic where Manson used to go.
01:42:45.000 This guy was a CIA doctor, was a psychologist or a psychiatrist dosing people up with LSD, running studies on prisoners, getting students to run studies, getting scientists to run studies, not even knowing they were doing it through the CIA. Kaczynski, too. 0.87
01:42:59.000 Don't forget.
01:43:00.000 Oh, yeah.
01:43:00.000 Kaczynski.
01:43:00.000 How about Operation Midnight Climax ran brothels in San Francisco and a couple other places where they dosed people up with acid and watched them fuck.
01:43:08.000 How dare they name it that? 0.96
01:43:09.000 I don't know.
01:43:10.000 Midnight Climax. 1.00
01:43:11.000 That's so dumb. 1.00
01:43:12.000 You know what it sounds like? 1.00
01:43:13.000 That sounds like the name of porn in a hotel that you could watch. 0.87
01:43:18.000 Yes. 1.00
01:43:18.000 It's like a secret agent that sucks everyone's dick. 1.00
01:43:21.000 Midnight Climax. 1.00
01:43:22.000 Whoever named that, that really tells you a lot about the program.
01:43:26.000 But, like, you know, man, the... 0.97
01:43:28.000 Here's a controversial fucking thing to say, which someone reminded me of a while ago, which really freaked me out, kind of, which is like, back then, like, right now we know a little bit more about some of the shit the CIA did. 0.97
01:43:45.000 A lot of it because they put it on their website. 0.99
01:43:47.000 Yes.
01:43:47.000 Which is so crazy to me.
01:43:49.000 They just put it up on their website, which is crazy.
01:43:52.000 But back then...
01:43:53.000 What stuff did they put up on their website? 0.91
01:43:56.000 Dude, are you fucking kidding? 0.99
01:43:57.000 Like all the shit about the remote viewing experiments they did? 0.99
01:44:00.000 I interviewed that main guy that they had for remote viewing. 0.99
01:44:04.000 Wasn't that a fucking famous guy? 0.97
01:44:07.000 This is one famous guy that I interviewed. 0.99
01:44:11.000 He's like famous in the remote viewing world.
01:44:13.000 I know you're talking.
01:44:14.000 The guy who wrote the movie, or didn't write it, but the documentary Kill Shot.
01:44:20.000 Was he the guy who talked about a kill shot, or that's the name for the thing that happens when the sun fucks up? 0.99
01:44:26.000 It didn't fuck up. 0.99
01:44:27.000 I mean, who am I to say the sun fucked up? 0.99
01:44:28.000 But for us, it fucked up. 0.99
01:44:29.000 It does like a, not a supernova, but just does a big-ass flare that kind of like melts whatever side of the earth happens to be facing it. 0.97
01:44:39.000 You know, that's like the kill shot that a lot of these remote viewers were apparently saying that they were seeing because they were realizing that they could actually...
01:44:47.000 They weren't sort of bound by time and these visions, and they all started sharing this vision of this thing.
01:44:52.000 It's really a creepy...
01:44:55.000 Creepy documentary out there, man.
01:44:57.000 That's 100% on the table.
01:45:01.000 Like some giant solar flare, some solar incident.
01:45:04.000 That's 100% on the table.
01:45:06.000 By the way, I'm sorry if we talked about this the last episode, have we talked about the CIA's website yet?
01:45:12.000 What about their website?
01:45:14.000 Have you ever gone to it?
01:45:15.000 No!
01:45:16.000 Jamie, would you mind pulling that up?
01:45:18.000 I've applied for a job.
01:45:21.000 You applied for a job with the CIA? Well, I was stoned and it was late at night and I'm like, wait, you can apply online?
01:45:28.000 Check it out, dude.
01:45:29.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:45:30.000 Ask Molly?
01:45:31.000 There's a cartoon?
01:45:32.000 Yeah.
01:45:33.000 Hold on.
01:45:33.000 Back up.
01:45:34.000 This is the CIA's website.
01:45:35.000 Ask Molly, your CIA source on the inside, and it's hashtag AskMollyHale, and Molly Hale's like a hot agent.
01:45:43.000 This week's Ask Molly Hale question comes from a writer who wants to know if there's a path forward for them at CIA since they have done illegal drugs in the past.
01:45:52.000 They took my question!
01:45:54.000 That's your question.
01:45:55.000 No, I'm just kidding.
01:45:56.000 It seems like it's your question.
01:46:00.000 Since they have done illegal drugs in the past.
01:46:02.000 Let's see what Molly's answer is.
01:46:04.000 Let's see Molly's answer.
01:46:06.000 So it says, find Molly's answer.
01:46:08.000 What does Molly say?
01:46:09.000 Dear eager to serve.
01:46:11.000 Let me be clear on this from the get-go.
01:46:13.000 Having previously used illegal drugs does not immediately disqualify you from working at CIA. If working for CIA is your life's goal, and we certainly hope it is, there could be a path for you here.
01:46:25.000 With that said, there are certain restrictions you should be aware of, especially if you've used illegal drugs within the past year.
01:46:32.000 Generally speaking, to be eligible for CIA employment, applicants That's not a word,
01:46:48.000 kids.
01:46:50.000 Is that a typo?
01:46:51.000 Not only an applicant, but as the potential holder of a security clearance.
01:46:58.000 It might seem a bit archaic, but consider the access to information we're giving at CIA employees and consequences of granting access to the wrong person.
01:47:07.000 How much access to information?
01:47:09.000 Just read that real quick.
01:47:11.000 It might seem a bit archaic, but consider the access to information we're giving at CIA employees.
01:47:19.000 What access are you giving them?
01:47:20.000 You're in a simulator.
01:47:22.000 That's probably the first thing they say after you get hired.
01:47:24.000 They're like, it's a simulator.
01:47:25.000 We're just doing like what the programmer wants.
01:47:28.000 It's like, I know you're going to freak out for two months.
01:47:30.000 We're going to give you like a protocol of antidepressants because you can go nihilistic or absurdist when you realize you're just a string of code that's running, but you'll get over it.
01:47:38.000 And then there's an egg.
01:47:39.000 The thing reads your mind.
01:47:41.000 It's kind of cool.
01:47:41.000 We'll show you that later.
01:47:42.000 Officers regularly handle classified information which, if leaked, could spell disaster for national security and endanger the life of CIA officers.
01:47:53.000 This is my favorite word.
01:47:54.000 Assets and their family.
01:47:56.000 Assets is one of my favorite words they use.
01:47:58.000 We have an asset in Jerusalem.
01:48:00.000 An asset?
01:48:01.000 You got an asset?
01:48:02.000 Is it a person?
01:48:03.000 You know a guy?
01:48:04.000 Yeah, he's an asset.
01:48:06.000 He's an asset.
01:48:07.000 Yeah.
01:48:08.000 He's like a number?
01:48:10.000 What's an asset?
01:48:11.000 An asset is like stocks.
01:48:13.000 You got an asset?
01:48:16.000 I got stock in Palestinians. 0.98
01:48:19.000 I got some Palestinians.
01:48:21.000 I've saved up.
01:48:23.000 I've got some assets.
01:48:24.000 Just some people you connected with.
01:48:26.000 I connect with them.
01:48:26.000 They're my assets.
01:48:28.000 Now you may be wondering.
01:48:30.000 That's all fine, Molly, but I live in a state where marijuana use was legalized under state law.
01:48:35.000 So why would any of this really apply in my case?
01:48:38.000 The short answer is...
01:48:40.000 Or would any of this really apply in my case?
01:48:42.000 The short answer is yes.
01:48:45.000 Marijuana remains illegal under federal law in every state.
01:48:51.000 The CIA is bound by federal law which prohibits CIA from granting security clearances to unlawful users of controlled substances including marijuana.
01:49:03.000 State laws do not supersede those of the federal government.
01:49:08.000 The great lord who looks over the land with an iron fist.
01:49:11.000 For more information regarding the federal government security clearance guidelines regarding drug use and other considerations, you can check out the...
01:49:20.000 What if the next line was like, hey, what's up, Joe?
01:49:22.000 That's cool you're showing this on your podcast.
01:49:25.000 No!
01:49:25.000 No!
01:49:27.000 It's a simulation. 0.99
01:49:29.000 But I do think, like, in there is they're also kind of saying, like, that being said, if you can set shit on fire with your mind or something when you're stoned, come talk to us. 0.98
01:49:38.000 It's like, you know what I mean? 0.99
01:49:40.000 They are saying, like...
01:49:41.000 The other cool thing when you look at applying for a job is it says, after you apply, don't tell anybody you apply for the job.
01:49:48.000 We'll approach you regarding the job. 0.92
01:49:50.000 Which is so fucking cool! 0.92
01:49:52.000 You can't talk about it when you apply. 0.90
01:49:54.000 Meanwhile, they're absolutely checking your phone.
01:49:57.000 They're checking your... 0.99
01:49:57.000 I applied and like I just leaned into the fact that like fuck it, they're gonna look at everything I do. 0.99
01:50:02.000 And then also like imagining that at some point, some CIA agent might come up to me like, hey, what's up, man? 0.98
01:50:09.000 Hey, what's going on?
01:50:10.000 Did you really want to be a bookkeeper at the Pentagon?
01:50:13.000 No, I wanted to meet a CIA agent, dude.
01:50:16.000 Hello!
01:50:19.000 Because, I mean, you know, wouldn't you like to meet?
01:50:23.000 I know one.
01:50:23.000 You know a CIA agent?
01:50:25.000 I've had him on the podcast multiple times, Mike Baker.
01:50:27.000 He does a lot of consulting for TV shows and security stuff.
01:50:31.000 So you are in...
01:50:33.000 Is he working for them now?
01:50:35.000 No, well...
01:50:35.000 How would you know?
01:50:37.000 Yeah, he's a former CIA operative.
01:50:40.000 What does that mean?
01:50:41.000 Do you really think they ever stop talking to each other?
01:50:44.000 No.
01:50:44.000 No.
01:50:45.000 He does security clearance stuff and security stuff.
01:50:48.000 He has a security company.
01:50:50.000 Did he? 0.99
01:50:51.000 So wait, so this guy, did you ask him about the Manson shit? 0.99
01:50:55.000 No, I just found out about this shit really recently. 0.98
01:50:58.000 Fitzsimmons told me about this guy. 0.99
01:50:59.000 Tom O'Neill was his neighbor for like 20 years.
01:51:01.000 He was neighbors with Greg and Greg the whole time he was doing this book while Greg was friends with him.
01:51:08.000 It took him 20 years to write this book.
01:51:10.000 It started out as an article for Premier Magazine and then as he started uncovering all these inconsistencies with the trial he realized that there was kind of a bullshit trial and that the Prosecuting attorney like everybody had there was there was deals that everybody had made to have a specific narrative go through and Susan Atkins one of the people from the Manson families on trial her her fucking defense attorney was like a former prosecuting attorney that had worked with Vincent 0.64
01:51:40.000 Bugliosi and all these other people before they were all buddies and they signed him to her and To take over for her state-appointed attorney. 0.78
01:51:48.000 This guy took over.
01:51:50.000 They followed directions.
01:51:53.000 Everybody followed directions. 1.00
01:51:54.000 As he was going deeper and deeper into the story, he realized there was a lot of crazy shit. 0.99
01:52:00.000 That was going on. 0.99
01:52:02.000 First of all, Manson for sure was let out of jail multiple times when he shouldn't have been. 0.97
01:52:07.000 When he was violating parole, he was let out of jail repeatedly for crazy shit like theft. 0.92
01:52:13.000 They were monitoring these people. 0.96
01:52:16.000 They knew where they were staying.
01:52:17.000 They knew the ranch, the spawn ranch where they were staying at.
01:52:19.000 They never did anything. 0.99
01:52:21.000 They let them go whenever they were in trouble and most likely got him the fucking LSD. Have you looked up the Finders cult yet? 0.99
01:52:31.000 What is that one?
01:52:32.000 I shouldn't even have brought it up.
01:52:34.000 I'm not even doing a good job with this.
01:52:35.000 That last description, because I didn't think I was going to talk about it.
01:52:38.000 But this thing blew my mind.
01:52:40.000 You've got to listen to this audiobook.
01:52:42.000 Listen to the audiobook, or maybe just listen to some of the podcasts, and you'll get sucked in.
01:52:46.000 This guy was obsessed with this for 20 years.
01:52:49.000 That's all he thought of.
01:52:51.000 That's all he did.
01:52:51.000 It was his life's work.
01:52:53.000 Okay, you had the CIA agent you had on.
01:52:57.000 He's cool, right?
01:52:58.000 He seems like a good guy.
01:52:59.000 Is he your friend?
01:53:00.000 I like the guy.
01:53:01.000 So, you know what's so bizarre, and I don't even want to say it, but I think it's like, because you say it, and then people see you say it, and they're like, see, you're all in the CIA! But something Rick Doblin, you know, I was bitching to Rick Doblin on a podcast, and I was doing this thing I used to do when I was younger,
01:53:17.000 Which is like trying to create an all evil, all good binary regarding people who work like in the CIA or people who work in even the DEA or whatever.
01:53:28.000 That thing you do when you're being lazy in your way of thinking, right?
01:53:34.000 Being binary.
01:53:35.000 And Doblin, one of the things he said to me that I've always kept with me is he's like, there's people like us All the way to the top.
01:53:44.000 There's people who look at drug laws right now.
01:53:49.000 Do people from the CIA listen to this podcast?
01:53:52.000 Right!
01:53:52.000 Yeah, I know of that.
01:53:55.000 FBI, listen to this podcast.
01:53:57.000 That's what I'm saying, man.
01:53:58.000 The thing that's somewhat annoying in the sense that it requires nuance rather than a heavy-handed, they're all evil, is some of the people in there Are really like 100% trying to keep at least people here from getting blown the fuck up.
01:54:19.000 And they're not like, oh god, let's find another manson.
01:54:25.000 Exactly.
01:54:27.000 I went and got this tour of...
01:54:32.000 Actually, JPL, the place Parsons was at, man.
01:54:35.000 I think it was BP or Shell or some oil company.
01:54:41.000 Generally, we all look at the oil companies and think, they're all the worst! 1.00
01:54:46.000 While you're driving in your car, you'll be like, these fucking oil companies! 1.00
01:54:50.000 They were working on some kind of new solar panel technology. 1.00
01:54:55.000 It was like Shell, or I don't remember which fucking company it was. 0.95
01:54:58.000 I remember saying to the guy, like, This technology, if it works, doesn't this destroy the oil industry? 0.97
01:55:04.000 Like, don't they know they're working on a technology that's gonna make the thing they make money selling and buying irrelevant?
01:55:12.000 And he's like, oh no, these companies are so big.
01:55:15.000 That there's departments within departments within departments. 0.94
01:55:18.000 And that's where it gets fucking crazy about the CIA. Which is like, the people in the CIA don't know, obviously, all the people in the CIA. Exactly.
01:55:28.000 That's your security clearance.
01:55:29.000 And the question is, how deep does that basement go, man, under the CIA? But here's also the question.
01:55:34.000 Yeah.
01:55:35.000 How are you going to find out what happens when people take LSD without giving people LSD and studying them?
01:55:41.000 Ready?
01:55:42.000 Go.
01:55:42.000 You're not.
01:55:43.000 So if you're in 1953, okay, and you're finding out about LSD, and people are taking LSD at parties, and people are taking LSD at concerts, and you start realizing the ramifications of a society in 1964 that's all taking LSD,
01:55:59.000 and you see this hippie movement, you're going to run some studies.
01:56:01.000 So then you're going to give people the ability to test people without their knowledge. 0.97
01:56:06.000 You don't know how crazy that guy is, what kind of a sociopath that guy is.
01:56:09.000 And he's going to run tests on people without their knowledge and give them LSD. And then there's going to be people that say, hey, you know, we want to infiltrate all these anti-war groups. 0.91
01:56:19.000 We want to infiltrate the Black Panthers. 1.00
01:56:21.000 We want to infiltrate these hippies. 0.96
01:56:23.000 Yeah.
01:56:23.000 How can we do that?
01:56:24.000 Well, here's how we do that.
01:56:25.000 We take this guy. 0.99
01:56:26.000 We got him in prison for half of his fucking life in federal prison so far. 0.99
01:56:30.000 He's 32 years old. 0.99
01:56:31.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:56:32.000 Dose this motherfucker up with LSD. Let's run some studies on him and let's tell him that he's a cult leader and get him to make some apocalyptic fucking death cult that wants to kill people and write pig on the wall in their blood. 1.00
01:56:45.000 And so they let Manson, they knew where he was. 0.99
01:56:48.000 They knew he was getting acid. 0.83
01:56:50.000 They knew that he was probably having people kill people.
01:56:55.000 Yeah, well, okay, first of all, to go back, man, if you really study the spread of LSD and the popular culture, it wasn't that the CIA saw people taking LSD at parties.
01:57:05.000 It's that the CIA, as I understand the story, goes and buys from Sandoz Laboratories all of their LSD and then begins to do tests on college campuses.
01:57:17.000 Where people begin to take the LSD and then the parties start.
01:57:21.000 So I think it's more like the CIA started the party when it comes to LSD, or at least were majorly involved in the initial experience people had with LSD, which was like, that's when you get Tim Leary, that's when you get Richard Alpert,
01:57:37.000 you know, Ram Dass.
01:57:37.000 They were both like hanging out.
01:57:40.000 At Harvard where the same psychology professor did this shit on Kaczynski was and like LSD you know that's they were doing I don't know if they were doing the LSD test there but these tests were going on they were being exposed to LSD that theoretically I don't know if it came from the CIA or not but I don't know like where the I think they actually those tests were they were ordering it from Sandoz but for sure like who wrote one flew over the cuckoo's nest uh Damn 0.99
01:58:12.000 it! 0.99
01:58:12.000 I can't believe I can't remember that author's name! 0.99
01:58:15.000 Ken Kesey.
01:58:15.000 Yeah, Ken Kesey.
01:58:16.000 He did one of the CIA LSD. He was in one of the CIA LSD experiments.
01:58:21.000 That makes sense. 0.94
01:58:22.000 And also, man, back then, I don't think, because we didn't get the Manson, the Kaczynski, or all the awful shrapnel, weird shards of chaos that exploded off of the crazy, unethical shit they did, I don't know if there was so much of an idea that they were evil. 0.85
01:58:39.000 I could be wrong about that, but they weren't even called the CIA. I think they were called the OSS. In the beginning, yeah. 0.84
01:58:44.000 But by the time, the CIA was running a fucking clinic in Haight-Ashbury that closed down after like 30 years of being open or 40 years of being open, closed down three months after this book came out. 0.94
01:58:56.000 Like, well, that's a wrap. 0.98
01:58:58.000 Yes.
01:58:59.000 Yeah, Jolly West, the same guy who visited Jack Ruby in the hospital.
01:59:05.000 And after he left, Jack Ruby went insane.
01:59:07.000 He was crawling underneath the table and thought that Jewish children were getting lit on fire and cut apart in the streets and a new Holocaust was going on.
01:59:14.000 Immediately, immediately he has to.
01:59:15.000 They have no record of him acting insane before this at all.
01:59:19.000 He didn't even understand why he shot...
01:59:22.000 Lee Harvey Oswald. 1.00
01:59:23.000 That's so fucked up. 1.00
01:59:24.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:59:24.000 Well, they think that the same thing happened with Sirhan Sirhan, the guy who shot Robert Kennedy. 1.00
01:59:29.000 They think that he was under the influence as well.
01:59:32.000 Because he had the same reaction after he shot him, like, why am I here?
01:59:35.000 What happened? 0.79
01:59:36.000 That they used LSD to somehow or another Get these people to commit atrocities, to kill people, to murder people.
01:59:45.000 Yeah, I mean, yeah, and you can, what's probably, you can probably, I know you can. 0.73
01:59:49.000 If we go on the CIA, the crazy thing is, you can go on their website, look at the Freedom of Information archives, and they have MKUltra shit up there right now that you can look at.
02:00:00.000 That's where it gets really weird, is it's like, they're like, yeah, Yeah, but they never admit that they gave people...
02:00:06.000 That was the thing about Jolly West.
02:00:08.000 He never admitted that he gave people LSD and did studies on them.
02:00:11.000 Never admitted it.
02:00:11.000 I think it's...
02:00:12.000 While he was alive, at least.
02:00:13.000 I mean, I don't know if they're admitting it now because of the freedom...
02:00:16.000 Well, they must.
02:00:17.000 Because Operation Midnight Climax, that's an officially historical record.
02:00:21.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:00:22.000 So they must be now.
02:00:23.000 But when they were operating this clinic, Manson and the family were going into that clinic all the time.
02:00:30.000 There's a 100% direct connection between the CIA doctors who are providing LST to the hippies and Manson going to this clinic. 1.00
02:00:40.000 That is so fucked up. 1.00
02:00:41.000 Dude, this book is crazy! 1.00
02:00:42.000 Man, that does not sound like pandemic reading to me.
02:00:45.000 It's the best.
02:00:46.000 Are you sure, man?
02:00:47.000 Go deep.
02:00:47.000 I don't know, man.
02:00:49.000 I'm already weirded out by just bad understanding of astronomy.
02:00:54.000 It's like...
02:00:55.000 You know what I mean? 0.96
02:00:56.000 I don't know that I need to get into shit about the CIA, especially because it's like, you know, I don't know. 0.98
02:01:03.000 It's just too much, you know? 0.99
02:01:05.000 That being said, I'm going to definitely fucking read that book. 0.93
02:01:09.000 Well, just listen to the podcast. 0.98
02:01:10.000 That's the easiest. 0.98
02:01:11.000 You'll get your dick wet, listen to the podcast, and then you're going to want to listen to the audiobook or read the book. 0.98
02:01:17.000 But he has 60 pages of citations and references at the end of the book to show each thing and how he can prove it. 0.99
02:01:23.000 He's got some speculation that he entertained at the very end of the book, and we talked about it on the podcast, but the stuff that he knows for sure to be true is bonkers.
02:01:35.000 Can I ask you a question that will probably get made into a YouTube clip accusing you of being an asset of the CIA? Sure.
02:01:43.000 So, okay.
02:01:45.000 Let's imagine this.
02:01:47.000 One day you get contacted by somebody who's in the CIA and they show you convincing data.
02:01:55.000 Regarding something, you know, whatever it may be.
02:01:58.000 Meteor impact, some other impending danger.
02:02:01.000 That is like, you look at it and it's like, whatever it is they give you, you believe it.
02:02:06.000 And they're like, listen, Joe, we know you're like, we know that you're like a wild animal.
02:02:12.000 And we know that like, you don't want to be dishonest.
02:02:15.000 And we understand that.
02:02:16.000 But we got to figure out a way to get this kind of information out to the world.
02:02:20.000 Because if we don't, like, it's going to be really bad.
02:02:23.000 And we're just going to...
02:02:24.000 To people like you and just trying to get whatever the thing is they want you to say.
02:02:28.000 A little thing.
02:02:29.000 An idea of how they want you to be.
02:02:31.000 And they're not offering you money.
02:02:33.000 They're not offering you money.
02:02:34.000 And they're also saying, don't worry.
02:02:36.000 If you say no...
02:02:36.000 Duncan, did you get that job at the CIA? What?
02:02:39.000 Excuse me?
02:02:40.000 Did I get the job at the CIA? Did you get that job that you applied for?
02:02:44.000 No!
02:02:44.000 It seems like you're priming me.
02:02:46.000 What?
02:02:47.000 You're going to give me a suggestion later.
02:02:51.000 Listen.
02:02:51.000 I know what you're doing, man.
02:02:53.000 Joe.
02:02:54.000 Have you ever thought of a blue butterfly, Joe?
02:03:00.000 Yeah, but seriously, what would your response be if someone's like, look, we just need your help?
02:03:06.000 Listen, I think Central Intelligence Agency, I think FBI, I think the DEA, I think they're all necessary.
02:03:13.000 I don't think they're unnecessary.
02:03:15.000 I think that most of what they're doing is trying to protect us.
02:03:20.000 Let's do the Illuminati logo for the YouTube. 0.99
02:03:22.000 I do think also that some of those guys turn into fucking cowboys and try to fly coke back from Mexico and crash CIA jets. 0.99
02:03:29.000 That's true too. 0.99
02:03:30.000 All that shit that happened in Mena, Arkansas, you know, all that shit that happened when Clinton was governor with Barry Seals, when they were running coke back and forth and dropping off in Mena, Arkansas, that guy was a CIA contractor. 0.99
02:03:43.000 There's a lot of those guys that were CIA. Look, they got compromised. 0.99
02:03:47.000 I think, but that doesn't mean the whole CIA's bad.
02:03:49.000 It doesn't mean we don't need a CIA. Man, if you talk to people, if they're honest, I don't know if they're...
02:03:55.000 Let's just assume they're honest.
02:03:57.000 If you talk to people that deal with trying to infiltrate terrorist groups, and deal with tracking terrorists, and deal with trying to figure out if someone's trying to make a dirty bomb, trying to figure out if someone's ready to blow up a mall, and they're doing this Actively,
02:04:15.000 every day, all day.
02:04:17.000 That's essential.
02:04:18.000 That's essential. 1.00
02:04:19.000 So the CIA, oh, fucking MKUltra, they dose people at whorehouses. 1.00
02:04:25.000 They're not the same people. 1.00
02:04:26.000 This is a giant organization that's been around for a long fucking time. 0.98
02:04:30.000 What you're hearing about from Jolly West and the MKUltra, those people are dead. 0.97
02:04:35.000 Those are not alive today.
02:04:37.000 But you know who is alive today?
02:04:38.000 ISIS. You know who is alive today?
02:04:40.000 A lot of threats all around the world.
02:04:42.000 You know who is alive today?
02:04:43.000 Kim Jong-un, the leader of China. 1.00
02:04:46.000 All these fucking dictators that are heavily armed all over the world. 1.00
02:04:51.000 There's a lot of them. 1.00
02:04:52.000 You've got to keep an eye on those motherfuckers. 1.00
02:04:54.000 If you don't think you have to keep an eye on them, you're crazy. 1.00
02:04:57.000 Well, the CIA is evil. 0.94
02:04:59.000 No, no, no. 0.99
02:05:00.000 Humans are evil.
02:05:01.000 And sometimes you need someone who's paying attention to the evil people.
02:05:05.000 Right.
02:05:06.000 Yeah, that's what you need.
02:05:07.000 Now, does that mean that they're not going to stray across the lines of what is correct and good and fair and start spying on regular people, too?
02:05:18.000 No, it doesn't mean that.
02:05:19.000 Right. 1.00
02:05:20.000 It means that shit needs to be curbed. 1.00
02:05:22.000 That shit's un-American, right? 1.00
02:05:23.000 Right. 1.00
02:05:23.000 But if you think someone might be a terrorist, you should be able to find out before they blow up a fucking school. 1.00
02:05:29.000 Totally. 1.00
02:05:30.000 100%.
02:05:30.000 100%.
02:05:31.000 So the question is, how good are these people at walking that line? 0.99
02:05:36.000 Turns out, pretty fucking good. 0.99
02:05:39.000 Turns out pretty fucking good. 0.99
02:05:41.000 There's a bunch of shit that's happened over time. 0.98
02:05:44.000 But also, they've gotten intel on all these different terrorists and all these different fucking terrible situations all over the world and probably saved a lot of people. 0.97
02:05:53.000 It's not perfect, but nothing's perfect. 0.97
02:05:56.000 It's not a fucking thing that's perfect, whether it's the fucking post office or police officers or fire department or doctors. 0.95
02:06:05.000 No one's perfect, including the CIA, including the FBI, including the Army, the Navy. 0.98
02:06:11.000 There's going to be problems.
02:06:12.000 But overall, they're trying to protect, I would imagine, if I had to ask, like, what are you guys here for? 0.99
02:06:18.000 To make sure this shit doesn't hit the fan. 1.00
02:06:20.000 Pay attention to the shit. 1.00
02:06:21.000 Pay attention. 1.00
02:06:23.000 Do some of them branch out into coke business?
02:06:25.000 Yes.
02:06:26.000 I'm sure some of them sell coke.
02:06:28.000 I'm sure there's someone for the federal government that's selling guns to a bad guy right now.
02:06:32.000 I'm sure.
02:06:33.000 I'm sure.
02:06:34.000 People are people. 0.99
02:06:35.000 If you got a million people, you're gonna get 30 bad ones or whatever the fuck the number is. 0.99
02:06:38.000 It's just part of life. 0.99
02:06:42.000 You're a CIA apologist!
02:06:44.000 I set you up! 0.98
02:06:45.000 I don't believe a word of what I just said!
02:06:48.000 Come on, man! 1.00
02:06:48.000 You son of a bitch! 1.00
02:06:50.000 You took that job! 1.00
02:06:51.000 Come on, man.
02:06:52.000 You know I get a big bonus.
02:06:53.000 You took the job.
02:06:56.000 You're wearing a wire, bro.
02:06:58.000 You don't have to wear a wire anymore.
02:06:59.000 Just carry your phone.
02:06:59.000 I'm wearing a wire on a podcast.
02:07:02.000 I'm monitoring you, Joe.
02:07:04.000 Imagine if you got too close to the mic.
02:07:06.000 It's like...
02:07:06.000 Jamie's like, hmm.
02:07:09.000 When I was a kid growing up, when I was at the beach, that was always something I'd fantasize about. 0.99
02:07:18.000 It's like, fuck, I hope one of those drug bags washes up, man. 0.99
02:07:22.000 Do you ever wonder how many of those wash up that people don't report? 1.00
02:07:25.000 Whenever I hear about someone who's like, oh my god, I found a briefcase full of cocaine!
02:07:31.000 Like, why are you...
02:07:34.000 That's grace. 0.97
02:07:35.000 Something is delivered unto you, this bizarre thing, at the very least.
02:07:39.000 I'm not a fan of coke myself.
02:07:41.000 I hate it, in fact. 0.99
02:07:43.000 Yeah, but if you got some of that Ozzy Osbourne from the 70s coke, do you know how good that shit would be? 1.00
02:07:47.000 CIA cocaine. 0.99
02:07:49.000 Yes.
02:07:49.000 Remember when we would talk about government weed?
02:07:52.000 Government weed was good.
02:07:53.000 Oh, yeah.
02:07:54.000 Unlike the cheese.
02:07:55.000 Oh, yeah.
02:07:56.000 Government cheese is terrible, but government weed.
02:07:57.000 Dude, he's got that government weed.
02:07:59.000 Whoa.
02:08:00.000 Do you remember that?
02:08:01.000 Yeah, I do, man.
02:08:02.000 I completely forgot about that.
02:08:04.000 That was the thing. 1.00
02:08:05.000 Back when weed was illegal, you wanted to shit, the government was growing. 1.00
02:08:09.000 Whoa. 1.00
02:08:10.000 Yeah, that's right.
02:08:11.000 Yeah. 0.64
02:08:12.000 Well, because for sure, by the way, you know, there's a, there's like, I guess at the CIA, there's a layer of all the sober people who've like, haven't gotten high for a year, which whoever's writing that fucking thing is definitely like laughing as they're writing it, you know, they're like, just laughing because they're so fucking high and they're like, 0.66
02:08:29.000 all right, we'll just say it. 0.88
02:08:30.000 No, they're tasked, man.
02:08:31.000 Well, there's a level they test.
02:08:34.000 But you know there's a level where you get past that level and like, listen, the no drug stuff, please.
02:08:40.000 We want you to have a good time.
02:08:41.000 This is a fun job. 1.00
02:08:43.000 Like, we know that you can handle your shit. 1.00
02:08:45.000 We just have to do that level below you because otherwise the last thing you need is another fucking Manson. 1.00
02:08:51.000 You know what I always think about when I think of someone infiltrating a terrorist group? 0.98
02:08:54.000 What? 0.99
02:08:55.000 That scene in Team America, World Police, where the actor has the fucking terrible outfit on. 0.99
02:09:00.000 We need actors to save the world. 0.98
02:09:02.000 Do you remember?
02:09:02.000 Yeah, dude.
02:09:05.000 I always think of that.
02:09:07.000 If I think about anybody infiltrating a terrorist group, I think of that guy.
02:09:11.000 Yeah, well, you know what?
02:09:12.000 Again, we don't have to worry about that. 0.99
02:09:14.000 That, to me, is a fucking great thing. 0.96
02:09:16.000 I don't have to worry about that. 0.98
02:09:17.000 I don't have to worry about infiltrating a terrorist group.
02:09:19.000 Can you imagine if it was...
02:09:24.000 Remember, he was so good at acting, they just let him, he looks so bad!
02:09:29.000 And they just believe him, and he walks right through.
02:09:32.000 Oh my god.
02:09:34.000 What a great movie.
02:09:36.000 This movie's amazing.
02:09:37.000 This movie's amazing.
02:09:39.000 Folks, if you've never seen Team America World Police, I probably laugh harder in this movie than any movie I've ever seen in my life.
02:09:45.000 It is so good.
02:09:47.000 Team America, what a great name.
02:09:49.000 World Police.
02:09:52.000 And then, also, after you see the movie, go online and find the sex scenes that they had to delete.
02:09:59.000 So, first of all, these guys are geniuses.
02:10:02.000 And what they figured out is that if you just add way more than you really want, they let you have what you want. 0.99
02:10:10.000 You gotta add stuff like, I think she shit on his chest. 0.99
02:10:15.000 They pissed all over each other. 1.00
02:10:17.000 They fucked like crazy. 1.00
02:10:18.000 So it's a plastic doll sex scene that's so, so crazy and graphic. 1.00
02:10:25.000 And then when you watch it in the movie, it's like a fraction of this because they just went so far. 0.96
02:10:32.000 They're 69ing each other. 0.98
02:10:35.000 That is ridiculous. 0.97
02:10:37.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:10:37.000 And she's violently sucking him off. 1.00
02:10:41.000 And they just keep... 0.98
02:10:42.000 So they did this so that they could have some of it in there.
02:10:46.000 I mean, it's so long and so crazy. 0.98
02:10:50.000 And then once you think it's over, then they start pissing and shitting all over each other, too. 0.99
02:10:55.000 Oh, wow. 0.99
02:10:56.000 Doesn't it keep going?
02:10:57.000 Yeah.
02:10:57.000 This is a clip from the actual movie.
02:11:00.000 Oh, that's from the actual movie.
02:11:01.000 Oh, what?
02:11:02.000 So that's how much they left in.
02:11:05.000 That's something much they left in because they cut out...
02:11:08.000 They got so savage with the sex scene that they let them keep the most preposterous amount in there because it was so far past that.
02:11:16.000 They just tricked them.
02:11:17.000 They used sleight of hand.
02:11:19.000 Dude, that must have been so funny filming that.
02:11:22.000 I think it took a long time.
02:11:26.000 I'm sure it did.
02:11:27.000 Yeah.
02:11:27.000 Trey Parker was saying in some interview that he would never do that again.
02:11:30.000 Like, that's too bad.
02:11:32.000 Stop motion?
02:11:33.000 Yeah, because, dude, Team America World Police is one of the funniest movies of all time.
02:11:38.000 For sure.
02:11:38.000 And there's so much in that movie, like what they do with South Park, that you could never do with a human.
02:11:43.000 Right.
02:11:44.000 But you can do it with either a doll or a cartoon easily, and it's amazing.
02:11:48.000 Like, death.
02:11:49.000 Death scenes.
02:11:50.000 Like, you killed Kenny.
02:11:51.000 You couldn't have a guy just die every week on a sitcom. 0.93
02:11:54.000 People were like, this is freaking me the fuck out.
02:11:56.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:11:57.000 But he doesn't even look remotely real, so he can cut his head off, he can light on fire, he can blow up an explosion. 0.97
02:12:03.000 Yeah. 0.95
02:12:03.000 You can definitely get away with a lot more in that regard, for sure. 0.95
02:12:07.000 Get away with everything.
02:12:08.000 Yeah.
02:12:08.000 Yeah, it's a genius way to do comedy.
02:12:10.000 I don't know. 0.81
02:12:11.000 I mean, like, South Park is, like, eerie to me in their ability to quickly animate shit that maintains its relevance. 0.94
02:12:20.000 Like, it's insane that they're able to do that. 0.97
02:12:23.000 Like, they've got it down to that level of, like, oh shit, something happened in the world and we're gonna respond to it almost instantly. 0.98
02:12:30.000 Not only that, they do it mockingly but accurately. 0.98
02:12:36.000 They figure out how to ride that line.
02:12:40.000 What are you laughing at?
02:12:41.000 I just saw a scene I've never seen before from it.
02:12:43.000 Let's see it!
02:12:45.000 I thought it was fan-made, but it's not.
02:12:47.000 This is Meryl Streep and this is Ben Affleck.
02:12:51.000 Oh, Ben Affleck is just a hand? 0.99
02:12:57.000 They made Matt Damon and Ben Affleck really fucking dumb in that movie, right? 0.99
02:13:02.000 Oh yeah. 0.99
02:13:02.000 I'm Matt Damon. 0.99
02:13:03.000 Yeah.
02:13:04.000 That was rude.
02:13:05.000 Matt Damon's actually very smart.
02:13:07.000 Yeah.
02:13:07.000 So rude.
02:13:08.000 But it doesn't matter.
02:13:09.000 They can just do that.
02:13:10.000 Yeah.
02:13:10.000 They can do anything.
02:13:11.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:13:12.000 When you have cartoons and puppets, you can fucking do anything. 0.97
02:13:17.000 Dude, I mean, that's the... 0.96
02:13:19.000 But except anything you want to do takes forever.
02:13:21.000 I mean, that is the problem.
02:13:22.000 It's like, yeah, you could do anything, but that anything is like, you know, months of anythingness. 0.99
02:13:29.000 So it's like clearly easier to film shit or just to say it. 0.98
02:13:33.000 I mean, the fact that they used hands... 0.99
02:13:35.000 God only knows how much money that saved them.
02:13:38.000 Like that decision to just do that, how much time that probably saved them.
02:13:42.000 Who knows?
02:13:43.000 Like those kinds of like decisions in shows like that are like really smart and funny.
02:13:49.000 Yeah, but yeah, animation is like, I mean, it is spellbinding.
02:13:55.000 It is. 1.00
02:13:55.000 It's eating her ass. 1.00
02:13:56.000 Slightly longer. 1.00
02:13:58.000 It's longer.
02:14:00.000 It's not much different, to be honest with you, though. 0.99
02:14:02.000 No, but there's the shit and the piss scene. 0.95
02:14:03.000 I thought so, but it's not coming up on here. 0.99
02:14:05.000 What?
02:14:06.000 Oh, there it is.
02:14:07.000 Wait a minute, go back.
02:14:08.000 There it is.
02:14:09.000 She drops a log in his face.
02:14:11.000 There it is.
02:14:11.000 Perfect.
02:14:13.000 And then I think she pisses on him, too, right?
02:14:15.000 Yeah, it was actually right before that. 0.99
02:14:16.000 Oh, he pisses on her, and then she shits in his face. 1.00
02:14:20.000 How many people do you think do that? 1.00
02:14:22.000 If you look at the whole population, like the entire population, Like a little light went off every time someone was shitting on someone's head.
02:14:30.000 How many times that happened in a day? 0.99
02:14:32.000 I bet you could fucking light up a small town. 1.00
02:14:41.000 It's mostly the girl shitting on the guy's head, right? 1.00
02:14:44.000 Would you imagine? 1.00
02:14:45.000 Most of it is like a girl, a guy wanting a girl to shit on his head? 1.00
02:14:49.000 Mostly. 1.00
02:14:50.000 100%.
02:14:50.000 I mean, look up.
02:14:51.000 If you look, here's a, if you look, not shit. 0.98
02:14:53.000 Isn't this interesting, though? 0.97
02:14:55.000 What I was going to say is it doesn't, I don't feel bad at all about that. 0.98
02:15:01.000 Like, I don't feel like he's getting shit on. 0.99
02:15:03.000 I feel like he wanted to get shit on, and he got shit on, so I'm not mad at her at all. 1.00
02:15:08.000 But if a guy was just, my thing is, like, shit on women's heads, I'd be like, that guy's a piece of garbage. 1.00
02:15:14.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00
02:15:15.000 Why are you doing that? 1.00
02:15:16.000 And the girls, they just, look, they want a thousand bucks, he wants to shit on their head, they make a deal. 1.00
02:15:20.000 And he just shits on people's heads. 1.00
02:15:22.000 I would feel like that guy's disgusting. 1.00
02:15:23.000 But the girl who shit on the guy's head... 1.00
02:15:27.000 Obviously, the guy wanted it. 1.00
02:15:28.000 It's easier to think a guy wants to get his head shit on than a girl. 1.00
02:15:32.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:15:33.000 Like, if you told me, hey, you know that guy that used to be on that sitcom? 1.00
02:15:37.000 He pays girls to shit on his head. 1.00
02:15:39.000 I'd be like, okay. 1.00
02:15:41.000 That makes sense.
02:15:42.000 Dude, I know how much it costs.
02:15:44.000 I'm just kidding.
02:15:45.000 There's probably a market for it, right?
02:15:48.000 Depends on how good you want her English to be.
02:15:50.000 There's some giant German lady who comes over and just dumps on your head. 1.00
02:15:53.000 There's probably a negotiation.
02:15:55.000 There's probably a dude who's actually had the conversation.
02:15:57.000 He's like, really?
02:15:58.000 Like 2,000 bucks?
02:16:00.000 Are you kidding? 1.00
02:16:01.000 I never pay more than 1,200 for someone to shit on my head. 0.99
02:16:04.000 Maybe they'll give a little extra if they're allowed to pick your diet. 0.99
02:16:09.000 I want you to only eat Indian food.
02:16:11.000 Oh God.
02:16:12.000 Just curry.
02:16:13.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:16:15.000 I want to smell the curry when you shit in my face. 1.00
02:16:18.000 Have you seen those videos, the fetish videos of people who like to look at videos of people getting stuck in mud? 1.00
02:16:26.000 Do you know about that fetish?
02:16:27.000 No.
02:16:28.000 Have you heard about that?
02:16:29.000 Oh, dude.
02:16:30.000 It's like, I don't know.
02:16:31.000 Can we show it?
02:16:32.000 Look up YouTube people stuck in mud.
02:16:37.000 People are into people that get stuck in the mud?
02:16:40.000 Yeah, it's like a fetish.
02:16:41.000 And there's all these videos of people. 0.97
02:16:45.000 So the humans are stuck in mud walking and then someone comes along and fucks their mouth or something?
02:16:49.000 Well, no.
02:16:50.000 No, it's just someone stuck in mud.
02:16:51.000 At first you look at it and it looks like, why did that dude just throw himself in that swampy mud?
02:16:57.000 And then he gets out of the mud or they'll start just wiggling around in the mud.
02:17:02.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
02:17:04.000 Well, okay.
02:17:06.000 I found something, but it could be an evolution of car-stuck girls, but maybe not. 1.00
02:17:13.000 Car-stuck girls? 1.00
02:17:14.000 Like girls that are stuck with their car, like they need help.
02:17:16.000 Oh, like a porn?
02:17:18.000 Someone needs help, and they're in a helpless position.
02:17:20.000 That's always in a movie, right?
02:17:21.000 The guy's waiting in the bushes with a gun, and the girl's standing there with her hood up, and the guy runs out, hey, give me a case!
02:17:27.000 Yeah.
02:17:29.000 It's on YouTube.
02:17:31.000 Sorry, man.
02:17:32.000 I thought you were looking in like porn.
02:17:34.000 I don't even know if it's on porn.
02:17:35.000 I typed in stuck in mud fetish videos and then there's a lot of like Like, what's up with all these girls getting stuck in the mud? 0.98
02:17:43.000 Like, what the fuck's happening? 0.50
02:17:47.000 Now, are they getting stuck in the mud with their legs? 0.99
02:17:49.000 No, no, it's like their...
02:17:50.000 Automobile.
02:17:51.000 Yeah, like a BMW. The one I've seen is mostly primarily dudes.
02:17:55.000 Like, it's like...
02:17:55.000 Oh, guys get stuck in the mud and then other guys come out and help them?
02:17:58.000 No, there's no other guy.
02:17:59.000 It's just like a guy like...
02:18:01.000 You know the La Brea Tar Pits?
02:18:02.000 Yes.
02:18:03.000 It's just that, but with a guy with abs.
02:18:05.000 Oh, man.
02:18:06.000 He's like, ah!
02:18:07.000 They're not yelling, they're just like, you know, like, they're just stuck in mud. 0.99
02:18:12.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:18:13.000 People are so strange.
02:18:15.000 That fetish is a really interesting one.
02:18:19.000 But I think, you know, you're kind of lucky if that's your fetish.
02:18:22.000 There's a lot of mud out there, man.
02:18:23.000 It's like, that's a good fetish.
02:18:25.000 It doesn't seem like it's hurting anybody.
02:18:26.000 Yeah.
02:18:27.000 No, unless you pay someone to go get stuck in mud and they sink down into quicksand or something.
02:18:34.000 Well, do you think that the people that...
02:18:35.000 Are they fantasizing about themselves being stuck in mud?
02:18:39.000 Don't know.
02:18:41.000 I don't know.
02:18:41.000 Right, it's open interpretation.
02:18:43.000 It could be they're just really into watching hot guys that get stuck.
02:18:46.000 Someone's filming it. 1.00
02:18:47.000 And they jerk off, you fucking loser. 1.00
02:18:49.000 Can't get out of that mud, you fucking loser. 1.00
02:18:51.000 Look at that beautiful mud. 1.00
02:18:52.000 Beautiful.
02:18:53.000 There you go.
02:18:54.000 I don't know if this is one.
02:18:56.000 It says 130,000 views and it says what you said.
02:18:59.000 Blonde girl gets stuck in very sticky mud.
02:19:02.000 Yeah, but you notice it's not like they're trying to get out.
02:19:05.000 Can I just be honest?
02:19:06.000 She looks like the kind of girl that would just give up.
02:19:08.000 Like, I don't think she's that stuck.
02:19:10.000 Like, come on!
02:19:12.000 You're not that stuck. 0.99
02:19:13.000 I'm fucking stuck. 0.98
02:19:14.000 I can't. 0.98
02:19:15.000 Just done.
02:19:17.000 Just done.
02:19:18.000 Yeah.
02:19:19.000 How much did they pay her to do this? 1.00
02:19:21.000 50 bucks?
02:19:22.000 I don't know.
02:19:23.000 How much do they have to pay you?
02:19:25.000 How much do they pay me for my mud videos?
02:19:27.000 No, no, no.
02:19:27.000 If you wanted to do a mud video.
02:19:29.000 They wanted you to do a mud video like that. 0.99
02:19:31.000 Free?
02:19:33.000 Just give me a good patch of mud.
02:19:34.000 I'll go in it.
02:19:35.000 Why not?
02:19:37.000 A cute Asian girl.
02:19:39.000 Chinese girl gets stuck in mud with cute sneakers.
02:19:43.000 Oh no, she's got cute sneakers. 1.00
02:19:44.000 She's gonna walk right in the mud with those cute sneakers. 1.00
02:19:47.000 Honey, those are valuable.
02:19:49.000 Yeah.
02:19:50.000 What are you doing?
02:19:51.000 These are great, Jamie.
02:19:52.000 I haven't seen any of these.
02:19:54.000 Like, I'm an expert.
02:19:55.000 These are new.
02:19:56.000 They're so weird.
02:19:57.000 Yeah, it's a weird...
02:19:58.000 It's a very strange fetish.
02:20:00.000 I don't know if it's like...
02:20:01.000 Maybe it's like an ASMR thing or something.
02:20:04.000 Maybe it's not even sexual.
02:20:07.000 It's just something in it that's relaxing.
02:20:09.000 Dude, she took her shoes off. 0.99
02:20:10.000 It's sexual.
02:20:11.000 Yeah, that's true.
02:20:12.000 She's got her feet.
02:20:13.000 She's moving around.
02:20:14.000 Getting all squirted. 1.00
02:20:15.000 You're a dirty girl with your dirty feet. 1.00
02:20:17.000 Dirty feet in the mud. 1.00
02:20:18.000 Look at her. 0.91
02:20:19.000 She's getting down. 0.86
02:20:20.000 That dirt.
02:20:21.000 Just lost a sock.
02:20:24.000 Yeah, this is weird.
02:20:25.000 Weird, man.
02:20:26.000 Imagine this is your whole life, and you go on the forums and you talk about, you guys got any new squishy feet in the mud videos?
02:20:33.000 Yeah, that'd be really weird, Joe.
02:20:34.000 So, Jamie, let's pull up something about the news.
02:20:39.000 I mean, again, why...
02:20:41.000 Here's a real question.
02:20:42.000 Here's a weird question.
02:20:43.000 Why is that so strange, but like someone who collects stamps...
02:20:47.000 That's normal.
02:20:48.000 Right.
02:20:49.000 Some guy who loves...
02:20:50.000 There's your answer.
02:20:51.000 He's dressed up like a Nazi. 0.61
02:20:52.000 He's going all the way down. 1.00
02:20:53.000 And he goes all the way to his fucking head. 1.00
02:20:56.000 Still smoking, too. 1.00
02:20:58.000 He's in quicksand.
02:20:59.000 Is he in quicksand?
02:20:59.000 Is that what that is?
02:21:00.000 Yeah, this is a whole playlist of mess, mud, and quicksand.
02:21:03.000 You remember when people were terrified of quicksand and then it stopped being a thing?
02:21:07.000 There's a whole Radiolab podcast about that.
02:21:10.000 It's really interesting because you hear the podcast, you go, oh yeah, I remember.
02:21:14.000 Like people were scared of quicksand and then all of a sudden it went away.
02:21:18.000 I forget what their reasoning is.
02:21:19.000 Well, when we were kids, that was like one of the ways you could die.
02:21:24.000 It's quicksand. 0.98
02:21:25.000 And sometimes you would, like if you're out in the woods and there was a suspicious patch, you might even poke it with a stick because it's like, fuck, that was a whole trope in like old movies. 0.96
02:21:35.000 You know, like Tarzan stuck in the quicksand or you're in the quicksand and then someone throws a vine that you pull yourself out. 0.87
02:21:41.000 That's in like 80 different movies.
02:21:45.000 What are you supposed to do if you were really in quicksand?
02:21:48.000 You're supposed to treat it like it's water and swim, right?
02:21:50.000 There's videos on it.
02:21:52.000 No?
02:21:52.000 Jamie says no?
02:21:53.000 Jamie, are you in quicksand?
02:21:54.000 No, there's videos on it.
02:21:55.000 I was going to say I've seen one recently.
02:21:57.000 So if you end up stuck in quicksand, the best thing to do is if your phone isn't fucked up, set it up to take a video and then send that video to ilovemudboys at gmail.com. 0.72
02:22:08.000 It's my private email. 0.96
02:22:09.000 I will come to you.
02:22:12.000 Trust me, it seems like I won't get to you, but I will come to you.
02:22:16.000 After I come on you, I'll pull you out. 0.85
02:22:19.000 Imagine that usually a thing.
02:22:20.000 I think you fall backwards. 0.97
02:22:21.000 You have a service, and your service is you get people out of the mud, and you give them $1,200, but you've got to jerk off on their face while they're trying to get out of the mud. 0.97
02:22:29.000 Yeah.
02:22:30.000 You go out there with like big mud shoes, like snowshoes, but only for mud. 0.99
02:22:33.000 And you come out there and fucking whack one off in there. 0.99
02:22:36.000 Okay. 1.00
02:22:36.000 All right, we're good. 1.00
02:22:37.000 Deal's a deal.
02:22:38.000 And then you harness them up to a rope and hitch it to your winch and drag them out of the swamp.
02:22:43.000 Think of the bad luck.
02:22:44.000 And you give them money, though.
02:22:45.000 Give them $1,200.
02:22:46.000 Here's $1,200.
02:22:47.000 Thank you.
02:22:48.000 But to me, that would be a great scene.
02:22:52.000 Somebody does get stuck in quicksand and they see boots and they're like, thank God, thank God.
02:22:59.000 And it is like a mud fetishist who's like, you know, like, no, I'll get to you. 0.99
02:23:04.000 Don't worry.
02:23:04.000 I'm going to save you.
02:23:05.000 But just, you know, enjoy it for a second.
02:23:09.000 What about this? 0.99
02:23:09.000 What if the, the fucking, the, the real mud fetishes, they set up traps. 0.99
02:23:13.000 So they made their own mud holes. 0.99
02:23:16.000 They dug them real deep and use some real silty, very fine sort of sand.
02:23:21.000 Yeah.
02:23:22.000 So if you get in there, you slide right in like it's quick sand.
02:23:26.000 They have traps.
02:23:27.000 They have traps.
02:23:28.000 And they've got a little camera trap that sends a text to their phone and says, we got one. 0.99
02:23:32.000 And then they start chewing on Viagra and start getting their dick hard and then they run out. 0.99
02:23:37.000 Like a spider that catches something in its nest. 0.99
02:23:40.000 But you kind of fall in love with them, you know, and then you start dating them. 0.99
02:23:45.000 But then all of a sudden you realize everyone they've dated, they've saved from quicksand and you begin to realize, oh shit, they're doing it on purpose! 0.97
02:23:53.000 You're looking for something like, does he have a flashlight? 0.98
02:23:57.000 Let's go through his stuff here, look for a flashlight.
02:24:00.000 You find schematics for how to build the perfect sand pit. 1.00
02:24:04.000 You motherfucker, you tricked me! 1.00
02:24:07.000 It shows the water, where the water's coming in, to make the quicksand. 1.00
02:24:11.000 You need this amount of water to capture a 200-pound man.
02:24:17.000 There's metrics based on weight!
02:24:20.000 That's what he likes. 0.99
02:24:21.000 He wants to get big, burly, fireman-type dudes to jerk off on their hair. 1.00
02:24:26.000 That's the thrill. 1.00
02:24:27.000 Holy shit. 1.00
02:24:28.000 They're trapped. 0.99
02:24:29.000 Maybe he knows calls for specific types of people.
02:24:33.000 He knows what he'll draw, man.
02:24:35.000 Like a turkey call.
02:24:36.000 Yeah.
02:24:38.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:24:40.000 Dude, have you ever gone to a spa and they're like, fuck it, I'm going to get a massage. 0.99
02:24:48.000 But then you see in their catalog, they've got a mud dip that you can go into that's somehow healthy for you. 1.00
02:24:54.000 You know what I mean?
02:24:55.000 It's considered a healthy thing.
02:24:57.000 You're laying it up to your head.
02:24:59.000 You know what I'm talking about, man?
02:25:00.000 It's like mud spas.
02:25:02.000 Have you ever done one of those?
02:25:03.000 No, I have not. 1.00
02:25:04.000 They're fucking awful. 1.00
02:25:06.000 Amazing? 1.00
02:25:06.000 Awful. 1.00
02:25:08.000 Dude, I went in there. 1.00
02:25:10.000 I was with my girlfriend at the spa, and they made it look all romantic and shit. 1.00
02:25:19.000 It's like a couple's mud dip. 0.98
02:25:21.000 And like, you know, there's like flowers in between them and stuff.
02:25:25.000 And you see it in the picture and it looks somehow relaxing.
02:25:27.000 Your brain, part of you is like, how could that, how's that going to feel good?
02:25:31.000 Like, it's like just sitting in mud, but it looks kind of cool.
02:25:33.000 And you know, I love getting stoned and getting massages.
02:25:36.000 It's like, it might be fun when you're high, just be in mud. 0.99
02:25:39.000 We got in these fucking things. 0.99
02:25:40.000 They're like next to each other. 0.99
02:25:43.000 And like, dude, like, yeah.
02:25:46.000 They don't...
02:25:47.000 Number one, they don't...
02:25:48.000 Look at this picture! 1.00
02:25:49.000 That's so stupid! 1.00
02:25:50.000 Ah, that was like it! 1.00
02:25:52.000 Somehow they make it... 1.00
02:25:54.000 Whoever's doing this shit is... 1.00
02:25:55.000 See if you can make a fakeie. 1.00
02:25:57.000 This is a normal thing for a couple to do.
02:26:00.000 And then, also, you realize they don't change the mud. 0.97
02:26:04.000 Oh! 0.60
02:26:05.000 I'm pretty sure they don't refill the mud.
02:26:08.000 Why would they?
02:26:08.000 It's dirty.
02:26:09.000 It's dirty.
02:26:10.000 Oh my god. 1.00
02:26:12.000 So the culture that came out of some dude's balls is all mingling with your cultures and it's like breeding in the mud. 0.99
02:26:22.000 What? 0.99
02:26:23.000 Exactly, dude. 0.99
02:26:23.000 And not only that, but like the ones that we were in, I don't know if they had heated it wrong or whatever, but anytime my ass touched like close to the bottom, it was burning my ass. 0.99
02:26:34.000 Oh, so the heater in the bottom. 0.98
02:26:35.000 The heater in the bottom was like burning my ass, so I was having to do like this, I don't know what you call it, like arch my back in the mud. 0.73
02:26:41.000 Like doing dips. 0.95
02:26:41.000 Yeah, I was like doing dips in the mud. 0.95
02:26:44.000 And then it's fucking hot as fuck, so like my heart like starts racing. 0.98
02:26:48.000 Also, I'm like, I was pretty high, but my heart's like fucking do-do [...]-do. 1.00
02:26:52.000 My ass is like getting incinerated by this thing. 1.00
02:26:55.000 Oh my god. 1.00
02:26:57.000 You went to a janky place.
02:26:59.000 Janky Mudbath Place. 0.92
02:27:00.000 Not gonna argue.
02:27:01.000 That's actually the name of the place.
02:27:03.000 Janky's Mudbath Place.
02:27:05.000 Where does the expression janky come from? 0.98
02:27:08.000 Like a janky, like a shitty, clunky version. 0.99
02:27:13.000 That one might be racist. 0.99
02:27:15.000 Gotta be careful.
02:27:15.000 That one might be one of them secret racist words you didn't know was racist.
02:27:19.000 Oh, fuck. 0.99
02:27:19.000 You've been saying janky, and they're like, well, let me bring you back to the genocide of the Iguam people. 0.99
02:27:26.000 Jesus.
02:27:26.000 What?
02:27:27.000 I wouldn't...
02:27:27.000 I wouldn't be surprised.
02:27:28.000 What is the etymology of janky?
02:27:30.000 No idea.
02:27:31.000 That's why I asked.
02:27:32.000 Are you sure you don't know, Joe?
02:27:33.000 I definitely don't know.
02:27:35.000 I'm 100% innocent.
02:27:37.000 What do we got?
02:27:39.000 He just dies.
02:27:40.000 I just want to make sure that I'm not stepping over any boundaries by using janky because I want to be a good ally.
02:27:47.000 It's probably not connected to anything.
02:27:49.000 It just sounds like a word.
02:27:50.000 It sounds like a bad word.
02:27:52.000 I think it was close to junky.
02:27:55.000 Oh, there you go.
02:27:56.000 Switch to janky.
02:27:57.000 I'm trying to read through this quickly.
02:27:58.000 That makes sense.
02:27:59.000 That does offend me.
02:28:00.000 I don't like the term junky.
02:28:01.000 Janky's good. 0.99
02:28:03.000 Janky's like you've got a car with a fucked up brake. 0.99
02:28:06.000 You know, that's this fucking janky brake job. 0.99
02:28:08.000 It's not that old, though. 0.99
02:28:09.000 Only in the 90s.
02:28:11.000 I might have invented it.
02:28:13.000 Maybe if I did.
02:28:15.000 Janky.
02:28:15.000 Since it's African-American slang from the 90s.
02:28:17.000 There, that makes sense.
02:28:18.000 That makes sense.
02:28:19.000 Early citations in the 90s.
02:28:21.000 Yeah, so...
02:28:22.000 Who wrote that?
02:28:25.000 Who wrote the article I'm looking at?
02:28:26.000 I mean, now that I know them, it's just weird.
02:28:28.000 We hear a thing like that, and we're like, alright, that must be true. 1.00
02:28:32.000 The first book they found it in...
02:28:33.000 This person wrote the article.
02:28:35.000 It said, Russ, The Longest War, written by Jonathan Waldman.
02:28:39.000 By the way, I'm very much kidding if it wasn't clear.
02:28:43.000 I don't really think I made that word up.
02:28:47.000 I was joking.
02:28:48.000 It's amazing how attuned you get to, like, comments that you, like, your brain is, like, you're making...
02:28:54.000 I just don't want anybody to really...
02:28:55.000 I was thinking that, like, that could be misinterpreted.
02:28:57.000 That's my word.
02:28:58.000 I created it.
02:29:00.000 What's another great word that they don't use anymore?
02:29:02.000 That I started using recently?
02:29:03.000 Oh, fresh.
02:29:04.000 I started using fresh lately.
02:29:08.000 Like, that looks fresh.
02:29:09.000 And I say it like that.
02:29:11.000 I don't say it with a normal voice.
02:29:12.000 Fresh.
02:29:13.000 So it's like, that looks fresh.
02:29:14.000 No, you don't.
02:29:15.000 Yes, I do.
02:29:16.000 When things look good.
02:29:17.000 Fresh.
02:29:18.000 Fresh.
02:29:19.000 Things looking fresh.
02:29:21.000 Oh, you get like a...
02:29:22.000 Yeah, I hear it in the back.
02:29:23.000 It gets like...
02:29:24.000 Looks fresh.
02:29:25.000 A little vibrato there.
02:29:26.000 Fresh.
02:29:27.000 It's a good word.
02:29:28.000 It's a good word. 0.99
02:29:28.000 We need more beautiful adjectives for cool shit. 0.99
02:29:32.000 So I started bringing back fresh. 0.99
02:29:34.000 Hey, what's your policy about cursing around your kids?
02:29:41.000 I gave up.
02:29:42.000 I gave up.
02:29:43.000 You did?
02:29:44.000 Yeah, I told them just don't swear.
02:29:46.000 Don't swear around other people.
02:29:49.000 There was too many times they caught me on the phone.
02:29:51.000 Right.
02:29:52.000 My nine-year-old especially.
02:29:53.000 She's the one who's always correcting me.
02:29:55.000 Hey, with your potty language. 0.99
02:29:57.000 She says that?
02:29:58.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:29:59.000 She's hilarious.
02:30:00.000 She likes to correct me.
02:30:02.000 I try not to say it as much as I would say it with you. 1.00
02:30:05.000 But every now and then, I'll let a fuck word fly or a shit word fly. 0.99
02:30:10.000 But it has to make sense. 1.00
02:30:11.000 Dude.
02:30:12.000 The funniest story, I realize I say it too much, was when my daughter was three.
02:30:17.000 We had gone skiing together, and we were all packing up our stuff, and her helmet did not go in her bag.
02:30:24.000 It wasn't in her bag.
02:30:25.000 And I'm like, alright, everybody packed up, and I'm like, hey, your helmet and your bag. 1.00
02:30:31.000 And she looks at the helmet, looks at the bag, and she just goes, shit. 1.00
02:30:35.000 Ha ha ha! 1.00
02:30:38.000 She was three!
02:30:41.000 Me and my wife were just like, oh no.
02:30:46.000 It did it.
02:30:47.000 Three.
02:30:47.000 But that's the right word to use.
02:30:49.000 Shit. 1.00
02:30:50.000 What are we doing? 1.00
02:30:52.000 We aren't even in that world.
02:30:54.000 You and I are not even in that world.
02:30:56.000 Like the world of you can't say words.
02:30:58.000 You can't say that word at work.
02:31:00.000 We don't even live in that world, and yet we're raising our kids for that world.
02:31:04.000 That seems to be a little crazy.
02:31:06.000 And I understand, like, look, if I worked in an office somewhere or if I had to deal with people professionally, I wouldn't be dropping F-bombs all day.
02:31:13.000 You can't.
02:31:14.000 People get upset.
02:31:14.000 They don't like it.
02:31:15.000 They want you to behave like a business person.
02:31:17.000 They'll turn you into human resources if you have a funny joke about Puerto Ricans. 1.00
02:31:21.000 You can't.
02:31:22.000 You can't.
02:31:23.000 There's no jokes.
02:31:24.000 There's no laughter.
02:31:25.000 You can't.
02:31:26.000 You gotta...
02:31:27.000 So...
02:31:28.000 When you're telling your kids not to say certain words around other people, you're telling them that because you want them to be polite.
02:31:35.000 You don't want people to feel uncomfortable. 0.99
02:31:36.000 But you should never have them think that there's something wrong with those fucking words. 0.99
02:31:41.000 Those words are important. 0.99
02:31:43.000 I can't really explain it to them because I can't really say it the way I want to say it.
02:31:48.000 It would just be too sensitive.
02:31:50.000 Like, I couldn't say...
02:31:51.000 I can't say... 1.00
02:31:53.000 Sometimes, when someone's telling you something that you know isn't true, and they're telling you, you want to be able to look it in the eye and go, hey, that guy's a fucking idiot. 1.00
02:32:02.000 But I can't say that to a nine-year-old. 1.00
02:32:04.000 Right.
02:32:04.000 It's just too intense.
02:32:06.000 Right.
02:32:06.000 It's too intense.
02:32:07.000 Right. 1.00
02:32:08.000 Like, if you say, this person's an idiot, that's one thing. 1.00
02:32:10.000 But if you say, this person's a fucking idiot. 1.00
02:32:12.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:32:12.000 That's a different thing. 1.00
02:32:13.000 It's another level of thing.
02:32:15.000 And you need to know what's what. 1.00
02:32:16.000 Especially when the shit goes down. 1.00
02:32:18.000 You need to know who's just a dummy and who's a fucking idiot. 1.00
02:32:21.000 Right? 1.00
02:32:22.000 Some guys just make mistakes or they think they know better or they do something stupid and it puts everybody at risk. 0.99
02:32:27.000 Yeah. 0.97
02:32:27.000 But they're not doing it on purpose. 0.97
02:32:28.000 Right.
02:32:28.000 And there's some people that think they want to run the whole show.
02:32:31.000 Right. 1.00
02:32:31.000 Those people are fucking idiots. 1.00
02:32:33.000 Right. 1.00
02:32:33.000 There's certain people that steal from you. 1.00
02:32:35.000 They'll break in your house when they know you're not home.
02:32:38.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:32:38.000 Those people are fucking idiots. 1.00
02:32:39.000 Right. 1.00
02:32:39.000 I know what you mean. 1.00
02:32:40.000 Yeah.
02:32:40.000 There's a different level.
02:32:42.000 And if we don't use the right words, then what do we do?
02:32:45.000 We're going to limit a kid's ability to express themselves?
02:32:47.000 Right.
02:32:48.000 The words aren't changing.
02:32:49.000 They're not changing you.
02:32:51.000 It's just another tool for expression.
02:32:54.000 And swear words?
02:32:56.000 Like, really?
02:32:57.000 Swear words?
02:32:57.000 You're going to stop using swear words.
02:33:00.000 You're going to make people upset about swear words. 1.00
02:33:01.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00
02:33:03.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00
02:33:04.000 Yeah, no, no, no. 0.97
02:33:05.000 I know, man.
02:33:05.000 I just, like, I get it.
02:33:07.000 That's, like, kind of my wife and I have decided that, and, like, some of my friends or parents have also said, just teach them not to say those words.
02:33:13.000 Just teach them to be nice.
02:33:14.000 Or when the right time to say those words is.
02:33:16.000 It's just, like, listening to, like, I don't know, like...
02:33:19.000 This morning, I put on, for no reason, Ten Crack Commandments.
02:33:25.000 Then my son was in the other room, and he comes walking in like he's just learning to dance.
02:33:31.000 And then I pick him up, he's laughing, and we're dancing. 1.00
02:33:33.000 And then I'm like, oh, fuck. 0.99
02:33:35.000 We're dancing to the Ten Crack Commandments right now. 1.00
02:33:38.000 He doesn't know...
02:33:40.000 What's being said?
02:33:42.000 But you know what I mean? 0.99
02:33:43.000 It's like, fuck, I don't know if I, even though he doesn't, even the fact he probably, hopefully doesn't understand, at least, hopefully does it. 0.98
02:33:52.000 I still like, I don't know, it's like you're saying, it's too much, the energy's too intense. 0.99
02:33:57.000 Yeah, it's very aggressive.
02:33:58.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:33:59.000 Yeah, there's certain, you know, You want to shelter them a little bit from the most dark shit. 0.87
02:34:08.000 You don't want to show your kid some murder movie, like the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan when they're four. 0.96
02:34:14.000 You don't want to say, sit down.
02:34:15.000 This is what happens when people go to war.
02:34:16.000 This is the closest that we have that represents what war is like.
02:34:20.000 Ready?
02:34:22.000 Seeing people's guts hanging out and legs blown off.
02:34:26.000 You're not going to show that to a four-year-old?
02:34:27.000 Never.
02:34:27.000 All right.
02:34:28.000 Me neither.
02:34:30.000 That's what it seems like if I act like I act with my friends around little kids.
02:34:34.000 So I pull it in a lot.
02:34:37.000 A lot. 1.00
02:34:38.000 But occasionally I'll say a shit. 1.00
02:34:41.000 Sure. 0.99
02:34:42.000 But I don't...
02:34:43.000 I just try to...
02:34:45.000 There's words that...
02:34:49.000 I don't want to lose. 0.93
02:34:51.000 The only reason why I think a lot of these swear words, like the F word or the shit word or whatever, if you're at work and you can't say those, why not? 0.92
02:35:01.000 What is that? 0.96
02:35:02.000 What kind of job is that?
02:35:05.000 We're all the grown-ups now.
02:35:07.000 Remember when we were children?
02:35:08.000 We thought that there was a system that was put in place by enlightened beings, and these enlightened beings, adults, they knew better.
02:35:14.000 We resisted, but we thought they eventually were correct.
02:35:16.000 Yes.
02:35:16.000 And then you get to be a certain age like, oh, that's nonsense.
02:35:18.000 There's no adults.
02:35:20.000 There's just people that got older.
02:35:21.000 Right.
02:35:22.000 There's just people.
02:35:23.000 So as people, you have to limit your language. 0.71
02:35:29.000 The only thing that's good is when someone who you don't expect to says, get the fuck out of here, when they say it's even better. 0.89
02:35:35.000 Yeah. 0.93
02:35:35.000 Right? 0.93
02:35:36.000 Yeah, sure. 1.00
02:35:36.000 A woman that you think would be very reserved, very professional, and she's like, that chick's a cunt. 1.00
02:35:43.000 Like, you're like, no! 1.00
02:35:44.000 Yeah.
02:35:45.000 I love that.
02:35:46.000 When you realize someone you thought was a square is not only not a square, but like a million times more out there than you are, but they're like...
02:35:54.000 They're trapped.
02:35:54.000 Yeah.
02:35:55.000 Or they're in camo.
02:35:57.000 They just have like figured out a way to like...
02:35:59.000 Not reveal to you or to the world that because they like understood it's a little easier.
02:36:05.000 People don't realize that unless you're around cool people. 0.99
02:36:07.000 Those are the best moments when that window opens up and you realize, oh, fuck, man, I'm such a dope. 0.98
02:36:14.000 I had you completely pegged as something that you're not at all. 0.99
02:36:18.000 And those are really like, whoa, fuck, what's that called? 0.99
02:36:22.000 It's not real. 1.00
02:36:23.000 It's a marijuana cough.
02:36:24.000 I know, man.
02:36:25.000 I'm a hypochondriac, Joe, with allergies.
02:36:29.000 Everybody is now.
02:36:30.000 I have allergies.
02:36:31.000 I have seasonal allergies.
02:36:33.000 And, you know, any time before this was happening, any time I would get sick, I'd be like, well, this might be the end.
02:36:39.000 And now, like, all of us who are like that, we're like, it's really intense, man, because, like, any demonstration...
02:36:46.000 My birthday was the other day.
02:36:49.000 They deliver booze in LA now. 0.76
02:36:52.000 They'll deliver mixed drinks to you now.
02:36:54.000 They'll probably deliver bullets. 0.79
02:36:55.000 You can probably get bullets brought to your door now. 0.96
02:36:58.000 Hopefully not too fast. 0.95
02:37:00.000 I'm sorry.
02:37:02.000 Quick bullet delivery.
02:37:05.000 Anyway, man, I was just hungover.
02:37:10.000 But there was a moment where I'm like...
02:37:12.000 Is this a hangover?
02:37:15.000 What's this headache?
02:37:17.000 To me, that's the part of this thing that I haven't seen it get acknowledged that much.
02:37:24.000 It's just the psychological pressure of what's going on.
02:37:28.000 The way it's got to be psychologically.
02:37:33.000 Think of all the people you and I know who are already teetering at the Very edge of sanity.
02:37:39.000 And like, imagine them alone in an apartment for a month with like the news telling them that we don't know when we can let you out. 0.99
02:37:46.000 Like, whoa, how many people are like really losing their shit? 0.99
02:37:50.000 And like, I'm not losing my shit, but at least a couple of times a day, I'll have a real claustrophobic moment. 0.99
02:37:57.000 Like, I can't explain it. 0.96
02:37:58.000 It's like a...
02:38:00.000 I don't know if it's a panic attack. 1.00
02:38:02.000 It's just like this sense of like, oh, this fucking sucks. 0.99
02:38:07.000 I don't want to drive by Trader Joe's and see people wearing face masks with six feet in between each of them and the fucking weirdness of it all. 0.99
02:38:14.000 People are driving weird right now. 0.99
02:38:16.000 And it's just like, what the fuck? 0.99
02:38:18.000 People are driving weird. 0.99
02:38:19.000 Yeah.
02:38:19.000 Real aggressive.
02:38:20.000 Yeah, man.
02:38:21.000 That...
02:38:24.000 People, I don't think, are acknowledging the fact, and they need to, that if you're feeling a little off right now, that's normal.
02:38:32.000 You probably should acknowledge that.
02:38:34.000 Otherwise, people are going to start thinking they're really going nuts. 0.98
02:38:38.000 When it's like, no, you just have some kind of, probably a new mental illness.
02:38:42.000 There'll probably be a new name. 0.95
02:38:44.000 For a COVID-related mental illness, you know, like pandemic-associated claustrophobia syndrome or some shit like that, you know?
02:38:51.000 Some, like, thing that is a new thing because we've never had to do this before. 0.83
02:38:55.000 Of course, 100%.
02:38:56.000 Yeah.
02:38:57.000 I mean, do you know how many people are going to get sued for this?
02:39:00.000 Do you know, I mean, how many people are going to sue the government for the close downs?
02:39:04.000 You know how many people are going to go crazy?
02:39:06.000 Yeah.
02:39:06.000 How many businesses are going to be lost?
02:39:08.000 How many lives are turned upside down?
02:39:10.000 You know how many people? 1.00
02:39:11.000 Fuck, man. 1.00
02:39:12.000 Divorces. 1.00
02:39:13.000 Oh my god, so many.
02:39:15.000 Yeah.
02:39:16.000 Dude, so many.
02:39:17.000 You know, people forced into these high-pressure situations they didn't anticipate.
02:39:21.000 And then some people falling apart, people with drug problems, they accelerate because they need a relief, they get anxiety from all this.
02:39:30.000 Yeah, man.
02:39:31.000 And we're just beginning it, man.
02:39:34.000 We're still three weeks away from at least here where this state is going to open up, right?
02:39:39.000 May 15th?
02:39:40.000 Yeah.
02:39:41.000 But what do you think is going to happen in Georgia?
02:39:43.000 Do you think when they open Georgia back up, you're going to get another series of people that have it?
02:39:49.000 What do you think it's going to be?
02:39:52.000 What do you think, if you had a guess?
02:39:54.000 Man, that's the problem.
02:39:56.000 All the data sources, some of them are so very different, it seems like, that it's like, you know, you have people who've won Nobel Prizes, you know, saying what they think it is, and you have other people who are doctors saying what they think it is, and those things don't quite match to the point where it comes down to,
02:40:11.000 it's not like what I think is going to happen, it's what I hope is going to happen, which is like...
02:40:16.000 That it just, not only that the curve keeps flattening, maybe not necessarily because, maybe because it's mutating.
02:40:24.000 Maybe because herd immunity.
02:40:26.000 Maybe because, you know, I don't know who to believe.
02:40:28.000 You turn on Fox News, you see one story.
02:40:30.000 You turn on CNN, you see the other story. 1.00
02:40:32.000 You go on the internet, it's a fucking meteor that's going to hit. 0.99
02:40:35.000 You go, you know, it depends on who you're talking to. 0.99
02:40:38.000 5G. 5G? You know, a variety of things.
02:40:41.000 A low-level bioweapon that's being combined with a horrific, powerful psyops operation. 0.99
02:40:48.000 Who the fuck knows, Joe? 0.99
02:40:49.000 We don't know. 1.00
02:40:50.000 So it's like, that to me is the real unnerving quality of this outside of worrying like if you go outside, like every time you cough, I'm like, mother fuck, I should have worn my mask. 1.00
02:41:02.000 I'm doomed when my wife sees it, she's gonna fucking kill my ass. 1.00
02:41:05.000 But like, that, you know, just that. 1.00
02:41:07.000 Those moments that would normally just go completely unnoticed.
02:41:10.000 Like, those to me, that new reality...
02:41:14.000 They get highlighted.
02:41:15.000 Yeah, and brother, that is like...
02:41:19.000 That's another form of virus.
02:41:22.000 It's fear.
02:41:23.000 And it's paranoia.
02:41:24.000 And it's a meme that spreads.
02:41:27.000 It changes your outlook.
02:41:29.000 It changes the way you interact with life.
02:41:32.000 It changes your outlook.
02:41:33.000 And it changes the actual course of your life.
02:41:36.000 You'll be operating with fear and operating with anxiety.
02:41:41.000 And everyone's thrust into that without anything bad that they've done.
02:41:47.000 For no fault of their own, they're thrust into the situation where even though they've worked really hard, they've been really disciplined, they've done the right thing, they've been conservative, they take care of their health, all the checks, everything.
02:41:59.000 But still, all of a sudden work goes away.
02:42:02.000 For everybody.
02:42:03.000 Nobody did anything wrong.
02:42:05.000 So everybody's thrust into this situation.
02:42:07.000 It's really the ultimate haves and have-nots moment.
02:42:12.000 What's really interesting is right when Bernie Sanders just stepped out of the race.
02:42:16.000 This is the example.
02:42:19.000 Of why we need some sort of comprehensive plan for everybody if everything goes wrong.
02:42:25.000 This is right here.
02:42:27.000 The idea that capitalism moves the world, yes it does.
02:42:30.000 It seems to motivate most of what we do.
02:42:32.000 But the idea that there's not more that we can do For the people of the community of the United States of America as a community.
02:42:42.000 Right.
02:42:43.000 Because that healthcare and education and stop people from being robbed.
02:42:47.000 Like, stop some predatory lending. 0.73
02:42:50.000 Stop all these things that you can clearly see people are just getting fucked over from. 0.89
02:42:55.000 Right. 0.98
02:42:55.000 Yeah. 0.98
02:42:56.000 Spend more money on healthcare.
02:42:57.000 Like, we need that now.
02:42:58.000 Like, yeah, we went through a nice, sweet spot where there was no real problems other than occasionally little blips of bad flus and bad diseases, and we squashed them real quick.
02:43:07.000 This is a big one.
02:43:08.000 It hit the whole...
02:43:09.000 And this is only...
02:43:10.000 As far as terrible pandemics, the amount of people that it kills per people that get it is not as high as it is for some of the more horrendous diseases.
02:43:20.000 We got lucky.
02:43:21.000 We should prepare for the worst.
02:43:23.000 We should prepare for airborne Ebola. 1.00
02:43:25.000 We should prepare for all that shit. 1.00
02:43:27.000 We should think about it the way we think about arms races. 1.00
02:43:31.000 How much money they put into the military and how much money they put into the war against viruses?
02:43:36.000 Well, the war against viruses just killed 50,000 people at home.
02:43:40.000 Imagine if China just had just launched missiles into American cities and killed 50,000 people. 1.00
02:43:46.000 We would be at fucking war. 0.99
02:43:48.000 All of our resources would be dedicated to that, right? 0.99
02:43:51.000 Why aren't all of our resources being dedicated to fighting off fucking diseases and viruses? 0.98
02:43:57.000 This is a real wake-up call for that. 0.98
02:44:00.000 It's also a wake-up call for power grid people, people that are worried about the power grid go down.
02:44:04.000 It's a wake-up call for people that haven't had food stockpiled in their house.
02:44:08.000 Wake-up call for people that are living extended, like they've really extended their reach as far as how much their rent is and how much their car payment is.
02:44:17.000 They're really stretching it.
02:44:18.000 Well, boom! 0.79
02:44:19.000 Something like this happens and you're never going to play catch up.
02:44:23.000 You're barely keeping up with your lifestyle before all this went down.
02:44:27.000 And again, through no fault of your own.
02:44:29.000 So you've got to kind of prepare now.
02:44:30.000 People are going to have to look at this like, okay, now we know something can happen that we never thought could happen before and the whole world shuts down.
02:44:38.000 Now we know.
02:44:39.000 That's it.
02:44:40.000 But we should act accordingly in how we run things.
02:44:45.000 Now we know.
02:44:46.000 Well, that's the silver lining.
02:44:47.000 I mean, like that's the silver lining.
02:44:49.000 It's like when you have a thing happen that you realize like, you know, whatever, like in your car, you get lucky and you notice that the tire is like super flat and you fill it up.
02:45:00.000 You just didn't notice or whatever. 0.71
02:45:01.000 You see a thing and it saves you from a later fucking thing that could have been a million times worse. 0.78
02:45:06.000 But you know, man, the wake up call to me is It's no joke that you need to at least be on some terms with your neighbors, and it's no joke that you need to understand how to grow food out of the ground and some basic first aid and stuff like that, 0.80
02:45:25.000 and also to always have gas in your car, man.
02:45:30.000 The other day we went to get groceries and left a credit card at the house.
02:45:36.000 But the car was kind of low on fuel because I hadn't gassed it up like I should have. 0.93
02:45:42.000 And the combination of suddenly not being able to put gas in the car and these two dumb mistakes.
02:45:48.000 It wasn't just a normal shitty day where your car runs out of gas.
02:45:51.000 Now it's your cars run out of gas during a pandemic, meaning you got to call somebody to come and put gas in your car or walk somewhere to get gas.
02:46:00.000 That's a whole different walk than before.
02:46:02.000 And that's asking someone to come and help you is kind of like asking them, hey, would you mind taking a I mean, I know you're wearing a mask and everything, but you know what I mean? 0.67
02:46:11.000 So suddenly, fuck-ups in this kind of environment, they mean a lot more than fuck-ups in, like, the previous world that we were in.
02:46:19.000 And that's teaching me a real kind of responsibility, you know, like having some cash on hand, like stuff like that. 0.66
02:46:26.000 Yeah.
02:46:26.000 What we, you know, we should always be doing that.
02:46:28.000 And to me, that is one of the, you know, and I hate using, everyone's using the term silver lining right now. 0.99
02:46:33.000 And it's like, anytime you say that, it's like, yeah, it's a silver lining on people who drown in their own fucking mucus. 0.99
02:46:39.000 It's not the, you know, it's fucked up. 0.99
02:46:42.000 But I guess one of the silver linings in it is just that, the fact that it's like, look, man, Trump just was talking about maybe we should inject ourselves with Lysol. 0.97
02:46:53.000 Yeah.
02:46:54.000 Okay.
02:46:55.000 How crazy is that video? 1.00
02:46:56.000 Have you seen the one when they focus on the lady who's the science advisor and she's sitting there listening to him say all this shit? 1.00
02:47:02.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:47:03.000 Yeah.
02:47:03.000 Have you seen that?
02:47:04.000 I have.
02:47:05.000 Sam Harris tweeted it.
02:47:07.000 He said, when you look into the abyss, the abyss looks into you.
02:47:12.000 Ah!
02:47:14.000 That's it! 0.99
02:47:15.000 You know, but also in that look, you know, I saw her thinking like, listen motherfuckers, who's in line? 1.00
02:47:21.000 You want this job? 0.99
02:47:22.000 I'm doing what I can to steer this crazy ship as best as I fucking can, and there's not much I could do. 0.98
02:47:29.000 But it's like, you know, you see somebody seriously say to an entire planet that it might be a good idea to inject Lysol into your body. 0.98
02:47:37.000 Let's hear it.
02:47:37.000 Let's hear it.
02:47:38.000 Let me hear it.
02:47:39.000 Start from the beginning.
02:47:45.000 I think you gotta actually double click on it.
02:47:47.000 On my computer I had to.
02:47:49.000 To get the sound out of it.
02:47:52.000 Nothing?
02:47:57.000 No, I don't hear it.
02:47:59.000 That was Duncan.
02:48:00.000 That was me.
02:48:02.000 It's haunted! 0.99
02:48:04.000 Anyway, bottom line is, he's saying wacky shit, and the focus is on this lady, and as she's watching him, she's like, I can't even fucking believe I have to handle this. 0.99
02:48:16.000 Yeah, and she does. 0.99
02:48:18.000 Dude, but to me...
02:48:19.000 We could get the disinfectant into their body.
02:48:22.000 That's maybe possible.
02:48:24.000 We could get them to drink Lysol.
02:48:25.000 Light.
02:48:26.000 Powerful light. 0.92
02:48:27.000 We could use light and kill it from outside or inside.
02:48:31.000 I don't know how you do it. 0.99
02:48:32.000 There you go.
02:48:33.000 Because you see a thing like that and it's like, okay, lean into that.
02:48:38.000 Lean into that is the thing that you can count on.
02:48:40.000 That's the thing saying inject Lysol.
02:48:43.000 That's the kind of thing where your craziest friend, if they said that to you, you would be considering calling their friends or their mom to be like, hey, Jack, he's having a hardcore manic episode.
02:48:53.000 He's talking about injecting Lysol into himself.
02:48:56.000 You better do something. 1.00
02:48:57.000 That's the fucking president. 1.00
02:48:58.000 And to me, what that tells me is like, Motherfucker, you need gas in your car. 1.00
02:49:03.000 You need to make sure your phone is juiced up. 0.99
02:49:06.000 You know what I mean?
02:49:06.000 You need to make sure that you are like...
02:49:08.000 You gotta be ready.
02:49:09.000 You gotta be ready, because if we think we're gonna lean into some imaginary hammock, Made of people who are saying that we should inject ourselves with Lysol, then it's our fault.
02:49:23.000 Let's imagine, let's say you went into the forest and you got attacked by a tiger.
02:49:29.000 But right before you went into the forest, you said to somebody, hey, do you think I should go in that forest?
02:49:34.000 There are tigers there?
02:49:35.000 And they're like, no.
02:49:36.000 And then they start shooting up with Lysol.
02:49:39.000 You know what I mean?
02:49:40.000 If you go in that forest and the tiger gets you, that's your fault. 0.99
02:49:44.000 You fucking listen to a dude who thought you could shoot up Lysol. 0.99
02:49:49.000 You know what I mean? 1.00
02:49:50.000 That's your fault.
02:49:57.000 Imagine, what was he thinking while he was saying that? 0.94
02:50:00.000 He's probably like, there's got to be an intelligent way to get out of this fucking subject that I've already started and I'm already coming up with perhaps, for instance, maybe you could... 0.90
02:50:11.000 So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light... 0.94
02:50:21.000 And I think you said...
02:50:22.000 Powerful light.
02:50:23.000 That hasn't been checked, but you're going to test it?
02:50:25.000 And then I said, supposing you're working on it inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way.
02:50:32.000 And I think you said you're going to test that, too.
02:50:35.000 Sounds interesting.
02:50:37.000 And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute.
02:50:43.000 And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or...
02:50:50.000 Almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs.
02:50:53.000 Cleaning!
02:50:55.000 A cleaning!
02:50:57.000 A cleaning of the lungs!
02:50:59.000 Can we take your lungs out and spray them with Lysol? 0.94
02:51:02.000 Spray them down, put your lungs through a car wash.
02:51:04.000 Like, what?
02:51:05.000 Yeah.
02:51:06.000 What a crazy thing to say.
02:51:08.000 A cleaning?
02:51:09.000 A cleaning.
02:51:11.000 Give him a cleaning. 0.98
02:51:13.000 Yeah.
02:51:14.000 Imagine being his doctor and you have to listen to him say this, like, so why don't you do the disinfectant inside as a cleaning?
02:51:24.000 Can you dip my liver in bleach?
02:51:26.000 Can you take my liver out and just microwave it?
02:51:31.000 So to me, you see that and it's like, okay, well, I'm not quite certain that that is where I'm going to get my data stream from because that's a Lysol person. 0.98
02:51:41.000 But then there must be a thing we can do regardless of the fact that clearly...
02:51:47.000 Bro, you wouldn't even talk like that on a podcast.
02:51:49.000 Dude, I would never say that in a million years.
02:51:51.000 But imagine, imagine you have zero expertise in a certain subject.
02:51:57.000 You're talking to someone who's like some expert in this said subject.
02:52:01.000 And you're proposing these outlandish, like you're on a podium.
02:52:05.000 You're not even having a private conversation in front of everybody.
02:52:08.000 You're somehow or another having a side conversation where you're proposing these ridiculous ideas that show that you don't understand how disinfectant works.
02:52:17.000 Why is that conversation even taking place?
02:52:20.000 Also, the other thing is because he did ask the question, that is a time for someone on that side of the room to go, No!
02:52:28.000 Look at her! 1.00
02:52:28.000 You can't! 1.00
02:52:29.000 Why didn't she say that?
02:52:30.000 She knows she can't do that.
02:52:31.000 She knows if she interrupts him and goes, What?
02:52:33.000 You can't do that?
02:52:34.000 You can't inject disinfection?
02:52:36.000 He'd probably be upset.
02:52:37.000 And she wants to do the best work that she can do.
02:52:40.000 And this is just some nonsense she has to handle along the way.
02:52:44.000 Wow.
02:52:45.000 Yeah.
02:52:45.000 Yeah, I guess so.
02:52:46.000 It's just a bad path.
02:52:47.000 Look, first of all, I mean, look, the guy works some ungodly amount of hours in a day, right? 0.99
02:52:53.000 He's gonna do some dumb shit, like, and he wings it a lot, right? 0.98
02:52:57.000 So he probably was stuck on that conversation of things that might be able to be done, and maybe you could do strong, ultra-violent light, like, in the skin. 0.99
02:53:09.000 Then all of a sudden he's like, oh my god, I'm laying out Possible ways that you could cure this there.
02:53:15.000 I better keep going.
02:53:16.000 I better have more than one.
02:53:17.000 Yeah, and there's like a disinfectant.
02:53:19.000 That's right disinfectant Disinfectant maybe inside or outside they have a way of doing that.
02:53:24.000 Yeah, and then you say and then he goes to her like he's looking for support Like I think you said maybe I think you said maybe you're looking at that Yeah, man It definitely has that sense of like when you had to give a report at school and you hadn't prepared for it That's it!
02:53:43.000 That's exactly what it's like!
02:53:46.000 Well, who were the Assyrian rebels?
02:53:48.000 Well, they were from Assyria.
02:53:50.000 They were rebels.
02:53:53.000 I heard they were tremendous rebels.
02:53:56.000 They were fighters.
02:53:58.000 They fought, and they fought long and hard in Syria, in areas around Syria, and some people in areas around Syria referred to them as rebels and said they were some of the most intense rebels in the region.
02:54:10.000 No, Assyria.
02:54:11.000 It's a different place.
02:54:12.000 Duncan, you wrote a report about the wrong place.
02:54:15.000 Assyrian.
02:54:16.000 I was saying that.
02:54:17.000 You heard me wrong.
02:54:19.000 Yeah, you just heard me wrong.
02:54:20.000 I can't give you an A. How many times did you bullshit your way through those things in high school? 0.97
02:54:30.000 A lot of the times, man. 0.98
02:54:34.000 I think it was the Red Badge of Courage, which even now I can't remember.
02:54:38.000 I think it's about the Revolutionary War.
02:54:42.000 And I believe that I didn't read it at all.
02:54:45.000 Clearly I didn't read it because I still can't remember.
02:54:47.000 Which war it was about, but I remember just having not read the book at all, having to write a report on it, where I think I said it in Vietnam or something, or maybe it was a civil war, and she was just like, that's not even the war that it was that it happened at.
02:55:02.000 You know, I completely failed.
02:55:05.000 One of those Fs where the teachers met angry.
02:55:09.000 They carved it into the paper.
02:55:14.000 Dude, I found out about CliffsNotes when I was in high school.
02:55:16.000 I couldn't believe it.
02:55:17.000 I'm like, this is a gift from God.
02:55:19.000 CliffsNotes.
02:55:20.000 You just gotta buy it on your own.
02:55:21.000 You gotta buy the book, but it's a way more...
02:55:24.000 You can read it in an hour.
02:55:25.000 That's right. 0.99
02:55:27.000 But it still sucked. 0.62
02:55:28.000 You had to pay money for a cliff. 0.95
02:55:29.000 Yeah, but I thought it was cheating.
02:55:31.000 I was like, they're cheating, though.
02:55:32.000 They're giving you a way to...
02:55:33.000 This is not so you can learn better.
02:55:35.000 This is so you can pass the test.
02:55:36.000 Right.
02:55:37.000 That's what this is. 1.00
02:55:38.000 You're giving me like, oh yeah, and then Mikey said to her, get off my fucking porch. 1.00
02:55:41.000 That's page 30. Yeah. 0.99
02:55:43.000 There's a little gray area a few years ago where kids could just copy and paste other people's reports from years past because they were all digital and teachers didn't know this was a thing they could check.
02:55:52.000 They now have checking tools to find out plagiarism and whatnot, but so many kids probably for a few years just did literally nothing.
02:55:59.000 I'm sure.
02:56:00.000 What a disaster.
02:56:01.000 That's right.
02:56:01.000 I'm sure.
02:56:02.000 You get out of school and you graduate high school, you can't read.
02:56:05.000 Like, what?
02:56:06.000 You can't read?
02:56:08.000 I didn't pay attention.
02:56:10.000 I can't.
02:56:10.000 Just play video games.
02:56:11.000 I can read a little bit of video games now.
02:56:13.000 Yeah, just made my way through.
02:56:15.000 Well, I mean, you know, there's like, that's one of the, isn't that, no, the people who went to, recently went to jail for like, bribe, for getting their kids into college.
02:56:24.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:56:25.000 It's kind of a version of that, except with your kids, right?
02:56:27.000 You're like, you're like, just, the kids aren't, aren't supposed to be in college because they haven't done any work in high school and they don't know what they're doing, but if you pay enough money, you get them in there.
02:56:38.000 It's like, And also, aren't they doing something where they get people to go and take SATs for your kid?
02:56:44.000 Like, you figure out a way to, like, it's an identity theft thing where you can even get someone to go and, like, do the test as your kid using fake ID and shit.
02:56:53.000 So it's like you send in an operative that isn't your kid to take the test so you can get into a nice school. 0.68
02:57:03.000 That whole thing was so crazy.
02:57:05.000 They spent so much money to get kids in school that didn't want to be good students.
02:57:11.000 Yeah.
02:57:12.000 That's right.
02:57:14.000 Almost like you'd think you could buy a kid's way to enthusiastic focus.
02:57:20.000 Well, there you go.
02:57:21.000 I mean, there's the whole problem, isn't it?
02:57:23.000 What is that?
02:57:23.000 This is from the district attorney's office in Massachusetts.
02:57:27.000 One of the photos that was used to show this girl's high school rowing career that she got a scholarship on.
02:57:35.000 That's a workout machine. 0.85
02:57:37.000 Oh, wow.
02:57:38.000 And I was supposed to be like, yeah, look at her in her varsity. 1.00
02:57:41.000 Oh, fuck, man. 1.00
02:57:43.000 What? 1.00
02:57:45.000 Wow.
02:57:45.000 So there was no photos of her actually rowing out on a boat?
02:57:50.000 That's part of the thing.
02:57:51.000 Having people take tests, they went and staged photos, too, to be like, look, the person did that, saw allegedly, according to the court. 0.97
02:57:58.000 Can you imagine how mad real rowers would be at you if they found out you got a scholarship based on a fucking rowing machine photo? 0.99
02:58:05.000 You'd be so mad. 0.99
02:58:07.000 Was it for scholarships or was it just trying to get them in?
02:58:10.000 I don't think they got scholarships, but to be on the rowing team, or whatever it's called, I forget off the top of my head. 0.83
02:58:18.000 Is it like good for your GPA or some shit? 0.90
02:58:21.000 It's a way to get in. 0.99
02:58:22.000 Oh, way to get in.
02:58:23.000 Yeah.
02:58:24.000 Oh, right.
02:58:24.000 So that and the bribe.
02:58:26.000 Extracurricular activity kind of stuff on your record and whatnot.
02:58:28.000 So they just fudged that and then bribed the rest of it.
02:58:32.000 Do you think the kids knew?
02:58:34.000 Yeah.
02:58:36.000 Yeah, you know when your parents are like, hey...
02:58:39.000 We just bought this rowing machine.
02:58:42.000 Why?
02:58:43.000 Just don't worry about it.
02:58:44.000 We're just going to take a picture of you in a rowing machine.
02:58:46.000 Like, sure, you know.
02:58:48.000 You're getting a picture taken of you to try to get you into this school that your dad went to or whatever.
02:58:53.000 You're complicit to some degree.
02:58:55.000 Yeah, you have to be a little bit, right?
02:58:57.000 Yeah, a little bit.
02:58:58.000 Go to that picture.
02:58:59.000 She hasn't even broke a sweat.
02:59:01.000 Well, it has her face covered enough so you can't see. 1.00
02:59:03.000 I want to see.
02:59:04.000 Close in on that.
02:59:05.000 She didn't look sweaty to me.
02:59:07.000 Crew is the word I was trying to think of.
02:59:09.000 She looks like she's barely started exercising.
02:59:11.000 There's another one down here, too.
02:59:14.000 Yeah.
02:59:14.000 Come on, son.
02:59:15.000 I don't see no sweat.
02:59:16.000 That's a better one.
02:59:17.000 Because look, stop.
02:59:17.000 Go up.
02:59:18.000 Look at that.
02:59:19.000 That's a gray t-shirt.
02:59:21.000 Gray t-shirts look sweaty instantly.
02:59:23.000 Yeah.
02:59:24.000 Instantly.
02:59:26.000 This is hilarious.
02:59:28.000 She probably pulled it back a couple times. 0.97
02:59:30.000 Am I done yet?
02:59:32.000 God, you can't even get me in the UFC. Fucking loser. 1.00
02:59:36.000 My father's a loser and he takes pills. 1.00
02:59:38.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:59:39.000 No shit, dude! 0.99
02:59:41.000 I want you to love me. 1.00
02:59:42.000 Well, get me in the fucking UFC. All my friends are going, dude, the thing that's really fucked up is like there's some kid whose parents are making 20k a year who's working his fucking ass off, you know, just somehow managing to study... 0.99
02:59:59.000 Non-stop to try to get into a good school who doesn't get into the school because of that shit. 0.99
03:00:03.000 That's the satanic part is like they buy their way in and that's someone's place. 0.99
03:00:09.000 They have a limited number of places, meaning like theoretically someone doesn't get into the school who could be the person who is going to, you know, invent teleportation or some shit.
03:00:19.000 Isn't that weird with schools that you have your first choice, your second choice.
03:00:22.000 Billy got his third choice. 1.00
03:00:24.000 Fuck. 1.00
03:00:24.000 Yeah. 1.00
03:00:25.000 Fuck. 1.00
03:00:26.000 Billy's going home. 1.00
03:00:26.000 Where's he going? 1.00
03:00:28.000 South Dakota.
03:00:31.000 What's in South Dakota?
03:00:33.000 Flat ground.
03:00:34.000 Dude, I get it though.
03:00:36.000 I mean, I get wanting to get into some Ivy League Illuminati school.
03:00:40.000 I think that'd be cool.
03:00:41.000 Especially if you're in.
03:00:42.000 If you're in the Illuminati and your kids are dope.
03:00:46.000 Too bad! 0.99
03:00:47.000 You're the Illuminati with an embarrassing kid! 0.97
03:00:50.000 Like, I don't swear that much around my kids. 0.87
03:00:55.000 My kids don't know how I talk around my friends.
03:00:57.000 What if that's how it is with, like, Illuminati, too?
03:00:59.000 Like, these kids don't even know their parents were the Illuminati.
03:01:01.000 Yeah.
03:01:01.000 You know, and you're like, look, I'm trying to get you to be in a better position in life, but I was working all the time.
03:01:07.000 I wasn't around.
03:01:08.000 I didn't push you hard enough. 1.00
03:01:10.000 No shit. 0.99
03:01:10.000 But I got you into Yale. 0.99
03:01:11.000 Or they fucking know you're in it and they're just like, you're like, did you get into my fucking adrenochrome again? 1.00
03:01:16.000 They're like breaking into your vaults, you know, taking your fucking like goblets of blood and drinking it at parties. 1.00
03:01:24.000 Don't drink any more of my blood! 1.00
03:01:25.000 You have to stop this!
03:01:27.000 You know?
03:01:28.000 You join them into Skull and Bones.
03:01:30.000 Don't they bring their kids to Skull and Bones?
03:01:32.000 I don't think so.
03:01:33.000 I think they do.
03:01:33.000 I think once they're in, their son turns 30, they say, son, I'm going to show you something.
03:01:39.000 They take him to the skull and bones.
03:01:41.000 Don't they?
03:01:42.000 They bring him in?
03:01:43.000 No, if you go to school there, you get into it, right?
03:01:46.000 I think that's how you get in the school.
03:01:48.000 That's how you get in?
03:01:50.000 Legacy.
03:01:50.000 Is that how you get in or is that how you get in at Skull and Bones?
03:01:53.000 I don't think the whole school gets to be Skull and Bones.
03:01:57.000 That's how you get accepted is what I meant.
03:01:58.000 That's how you get into the school.
03:02:00.000 Isn't that funny?
03:02:00.000 If you're in a place like Yale, which is very exclusive and very prestigious already, some creeps, like, that's not enough.
03:02:07.000 I want to get in a secret cult dick-sucking society. 0.99
03:02:11.000 What do they do? 1.00
03:02:11.000 They don't suck dicks, do they? 1.00
03:02:13.000 Wasn't there a rumor that they make each other blow each other and take photos of it so that they have something over them? 1.00
03:02:20.000 That was one of the crazy online conspiracy theories, right? 0.99
03:02:24.000 They make every guy suck a dick and they take Polaroids of it, so they always have it. 0.99
03:02:28.000 They hold over you. 1.00
03:02:29.000 I think that's just fraternity stuff, but yeah.
03:02:31.000 Is that normal fraternity stuff?
03:02:32.000 I mean, Bert's talked about that biscuit thing or whatever for it. 0.99
03:02:35.000 Yeah, they would jerk off on a biscuit. 0.97
03:02:36.000 Right, yeah. 1.00
03:02:37.000 That's the circle jerk thing. 0.93
03:02:38.000 And the last guy to come had to eat the biscuit. 1.00
03:02:40.000 But no one's really doing it except for the one idiot. 1.00
03:02:43.000 Yeah, one guy who can't come because he's just jerking off thinking about guys all the time. 1.00
03:02:48.000 You just go, yeah, I sucked a bunch of my friend's dicks. 1.00
03:02:51.000 Who fucking cares? 1.00
03:02:52.000 I mean, aren't we in a time now where like a picture of me emerges sucking all my friend's dicks? 1.00
03:02:57.000 I think there's more to it than that. 1.00
03:02:58.000 I think they peg you or something.
03:03:00.000 They take pictures of them wearing a strap on.
03:03:02.000 So you got pegged!
03:03:04.000 Yeah, but some people don't want everybody, you know, they want to rise through the branch at Raytheon and get to the top.
03:03:10.000 Everyone at Raytheon gets pegged. 0.99
03:03:11.000 Like, you know, that's just like, fuck it. 1.00
03:03:14.000 Like, yeah, we all get pegged. 1.00
03:03:16.000 Now what?
03:03:16.000 So what?
03:03:17.000 We're inventing bombs.
03:03:18.000 Now, you know, like, who cares?
03:03:19.000 Of course we get pegged.
03:03:20.000 Yeah, but the guy's wearing a goat costume.
03:03:23.000 So what?
03:03:23.000 I like to wear a goat costume when I get pegged.
03:03:25.000 I like too much kinky shit. 1.00
03:03:27.000 It's like, goddammit, I hope we get to a time where, like, they take pictures of someone doing a fucking thing that's legit fucked up, so that, you know, and they get banished for it. 0.99
03:03:35.000 It's like, I'm, god forbid, like, I can't even imagine the Polaroids that could emerge of weird shit I've done, you know? 0.99
03:03:42.000 I can only imagine.
03:03:43.000 You can't imagine.
03:03:44.000 I can't.
03:03:46.000 But that being said, it's like, yeah, I wonder what, I think what The initiation...
03:03:51.000 I get it.
03:03:52.000 Like, it is...
03:03:52.000 Look, let's face it.
03:03:53.000 You're not going to chop it right here.
03:03:54.000 It's probably fun to be a part of a little tiny group that's a part of an exclusive group.
03:03:58.000 Right?
03:03:59.000 You got the exclusive group.
03:04:00.000 That's Yale.
03:04:01.000 And then you get the little skull and bones.
03:04:02.000 We all get together.
03:04:04.000 All brothers in... 1.00
03:04:05.000 In the room, they probably have secret words they have to say in Latin and shit. 0.99
03:04:10.000 Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. 0.96
03:04:12.000 I imagine, based on the way I have come to understand things, whatever it is, is way more boring than we imagine.
03:04:20.000 Because, you know what I mean?
03:04:22.000 Probably.
03:04:23.000 When you don't know what a thing is, you always project the worst thing on it. 1.00
03:04:26.000 My guess is it's boring as fuck. 1.00
03:04:28.000 It's probably just some college bullshit where people who are in a frat sit around and make dumb jokes and do stupid shit and it's nothing. 1.00
03:04:36.000 They probably don't even peg you. 1.00
03:04:37.000 They probably just take a Polaroid of your asshole. 1.00
03:04:40.000 Got it. 1.00
03:04:41.000 Look. 0.98
03:04:42.000 Keep your mouth shut. 1.00
03:04:44.000 Yeah, we have a picture of your asshole. 1.00
03:04:46.000 It's your soul's fingerprint. 1.00
03:04:48.000 Don't show anybody.
03:04:50.000 It's your soul's fingerprint. 1.00
03:04:52.000 Imagine if your asshole told a lot about you. 1.00
03:04:57.000 That's the big discovery! 1.00
03:04:58.000 Like, you look at a person's eyes, you know, and you see their soul.
03:05:01.000 It's the windows to the soul. 1.00
03:05:03.000 What if the asshole is like, you really know whether you like someone just by looking at their asshole. 1.00
03:05:08.000 Something about the asshole tells you things. 1.00
03:05:11.000 Books come out decoding your asshole. 1.00
03:05:14.000 You know, like people read hands. 1.00
03:05:15.000 They read fingerprints. 1.00
03:05:17.000 Why can't they read assholes? 1.00
03:05:18.000 I bet assholes tell you a lot, just like someone's eyebrows do. 1.00
03:05:22.000 Someone's got like mean eyebrows, like, whoa, that guy looks aggressive. 0.99
03:05:26.000 If a guy's got big, thick, bushy eyebrows, and he's not mean, I get suspicious. 0.99
03:05:32.000 He's all friendly, with these big crazy fucking eyebrows, but all the villains have big crazy eyebrows. 0.99
03:05:39.000 They're all angry. 1.00
03:05:40.000 They're all these crazy eyebrows. 0.94
03:05:43.000 Right?
03:05:44.000 Yeah.
03:05:45.000 It's just like, man, for one, here's probably for sure. 0.99
03:05:49.000 We don't know that you can't tell a person's future from their asshole yet because no one's thought of it. 0.99
03:05:53.000 That could be the new thing that people pick up as a business during this pandemic. 0.99
03:05:56.000 Yeah. 0.99
03:05:57.000 Asshole reading. 1.00
03:05:58.000 Yeah. 0.98
03:05:58.000 Or what if it's like a... 0.98
03:06:00.000 What if it's like a...
03:06:02.000 Scan it.
03:06:02.000 A scan!
03:06:04.000 A QR code. 1.00
03:06:06.000 Your asshole flots into a QR code. 1.00
03:06:10.000 All this time we've been looking for alien signals from space. 1.00
03:06:13.000 We didn't know it was in our assholes. 1.00
03:06:16.000 Yeah, it was all photos of our assholes. 0.99
03:06:18.000 If you put them together on a grid, it gives us the diagram of how to build a spaceship to get out of here. 0.98
03:06:26.000 We just have to have all the photos.
03:06:27.000 It's like a giant jigsaw puzzle with 8 billion pieces. 0.91
03:06:31.000 You take 8 billion assholes and you put them on a grid and you'll see the schematics. 0.99
03:06:35.000 Behold. 0.99
03:06:36.000 It'll tell us exactly when the sun's going to supernova.
03:06:39.000 About 50 years.
03:06:41.000 Maybe. 0.99
03:06:41.000 What if that's what the quantum computer, the first thing it says is, I need pictures of all the assholes on the planet. 0.99
03:06:49.000 Like... 1.00
03:06:51.000 If you vote, you have to show a photo of your asshole before you vote. 1.00
03:06:55.000 You have to have it on your phone, and that's your thing. 1.00
03:06:57.000 Instead of a thumbprint.
03:06:59.000 No, thumbprints are not exact. 1.00
03:07:01.000 Assholes are exact. 0.98
03:07:03.000 Exact. 0.99
03:07:04.000 And they don't get changed by workouts, or they don't, like, you know, your thumbprint, your hands can get bigger.
03:07:10.000 It can be a little bit different.
03:07:12.000 How do you know? 0.99
03:07:13.000 I don't know that assholes don't get changed from workouts. 0.99
03:07:15.000 Well, one thing they can do with your thumbprint, right? 1.00
03:07:17.000 Some people burn their prints off.
03:07:20.000 You can't really burn. 1.00
03:07:21.000 Well, I guess you could burn your asshole into an unreadable. 1.00
03:07:26.000 That's one of the levels of the CIA. Yeah, you're tired of people reading your asshole. 1.00
03:07:28.000 I can't get a good relationship because people keep reading my asshole wrong. 1.00
03:07:31.000 Fuck. 1.00
03:07:32.000 Look, I'm more than my asshole. 1.00
03:07:41.000 Let's end with that. 1.00
03:07:43.000 Dude, we just did three and a half hours. 1.00
03:07:44.000 Holy shit, man! 0.99
03:07:45.000 It went by so fast! 1.00
03:07:46.000 It's crazy.
03:07:46.000 It's four o'clock already.
03:07:49.000 Listen, man, your show looks amazing.
03:07:51.000 I'm very excited for you.
03:07:52.000 I'm very happy for you.
03:07:53.000 Thank you.
03:07:53.000 Tell people once again.
03:07:54.000 It's on Netflix.
03:07:55.000 Thanks, Joe.
03:07:56.000 It's on Netflix.
03:07:56.000 It's called The Midnight Gospel.
03:07:58.000 Please, just watch it.
03:08:00.000 It's like, yeah, I'm very proud of it, and I think you'll enjoy it.
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03:08:11.000 Yes.
03:08:11.000 Thank you, brother.
03:08:12.000 I love you.
03:08:12.000 Thank you, brother.
03:08:12.000 I love you, too.
03:08:13.000 Always good to see you, man.
03:08:13.000 This was really fun.
03:08:14.000 Thank you.
03:08:14.000 Bye, everybody.
03:08:15.000 See you.
03:08:17.000 That was so fun, dude.