The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1527 - David Blaine

00:00:00.000 This is a great collection.

00:00:02.000 Yeah, these are all from PlastiCell.

00:00:05.000 Look, even the sunglasses come off on Biggie.

00:00:07.000 Wow.

00:00:07.000 Yeah.

00:00:08.000 It's pretty dope.

00:00:10.000 Yeah, it's awesome.

00:00:11.000 We got John Wick.

00:00:13.000 John Wick and his Pitbull.

00:00:15.000 Richard Pryor.

00:00:16.000 This is awesome.

00:00:17.000 Yeah.

00:00:17.000 I got Kanye, Bruce Lee.

00:00:19.000 But the glasses on Biggie is amazing.

00:00:21.000 I know.

00:00:21.000 Well, this guy's amazing.

00:00:23.000 Shout out to Fong from PlastiCell. 1.00

00:00:26.000 He makes some dope shit. 0.99

00:00:28.000 Yeah, he's amazing. 1.00

00:00:30.000 Not as amazing as that shit you did in the green room, man. 0.99

00:00:33.000 David just did some card wizardry. 1.00

00:00:37.000 It's one thing that when you see that shit on TV, you're like, eh, if I was there, I'd see some shit. 1.00

00:00:42.000 I'd know what's going on. 1.00

00:00:43.000 But when you see it in real life, you're like...

00:00:45.000 What is happening here?

00:00:47.000 It's way better in person than always.

00:00:50.000 Oh, yeah.

00:00:51.000 Well, at the end, I don't want to give anything away, but at the end, literally, a man is holding one of his wrists, and another guy's holding the other wrist, and he still does the car trick, and we still can't figure out what happened.

00:01:03.000 When did you get started?

00:01:04.000 How old were you?

00:01:05.000 I was about five years old when I started playing with cards, but I didn't know what they were for really.

00:01:12.000 So I just had a deck of cards that I carried everywhere.

00:01:15.000 But I liked the way it felt, you know, just like it felt like something cool.

00:01:20.000 So eventually a librarian was like, oh, we got this like magic card.

00:01:25.000 Self-working card trick book in.

00:01:26.000 Do you want to learn something?

00:01:28.000 And I was like, yeah, of course.

00:01:31.000 And she shows me that silly self-working mathematical trick that's a long process to do, but it's still a cool outcome.

00:01:39.000 Like, oh, I found your card, right?

00:01:41.000 Right.

00:01:42.000 And my mother, I used to wait for her at the library.

00:01:44.000 And she'd come get me when she was done.

00:01:47.000 And when she came, I said, can I show you this trick?

00:01:50.000 And the librarian was excited for me to do it to her.

00:01:53.000 Which is what I do to my friend's kids.

00:01:55.000 And I teach them a trick and make them really good at it.

00:01:58.000 And then I'm so excited to see them do it, you know?

00:02:00.000 Right.

00:02:00.000 Okay.

00:02:01.000 So my mother comes and I do the trick.

00:02:03.000 And my mom goes crazy.

00:02:06.000 Like it was a bill.

00:02:07.000 It was the best thing ever.

00:02:10.000 But that began the love of wanting to learn new tricks because I wanted to keep making her happy.

00:02:16.000 So that was basically the fundamental start of it.

00:02:21.000 She would take me to Coney Island all the time.

00:02:24.000 And on the boardwalk there, there's those weird freak show performers.

00:02:29.000 So I'd watch those guys.

00:02:31.000 And to me, it was all magical.

00:02:33.000 So that was kind of the beginning of it.

00:02:36.000 So isn't it funny how one positive experience when you're young can ignite this chain of events?

00:02:43.000 Yeah, that changes your whole life.

00:02:45.000 By the way, and also, so then the librarian, when I would come, she would give me books, and I would start looking at that little magic section that was between, like, games and puzzles.

00:02:56.000 I always wished magic would be, like, not there.

00:02:59.000 Like, it should be, like, an art or something, you know?

00:03:01.000 It was always, like, when you want a magic book, it's always, like, that silly, like, kid's jokey thing.

00:03:06.000 But there's, like...

00:03:07.000 So in that section...

00:03:10.000 I pulled out a book and I was like six years old and I see a guy chained to the side of a building staring out looking like death is upon him and that was Houdini and I didn't know anything about what that all meant I looked through the pictures and he was hanging upside down and stuff like that but when I went to sleep I would have these dreams of this guy chained to the side of a building and that began my curiosity and love of Houdini and then that began my curiosity of like Not just

00:03:40.000 like the magic trick stuff, but like this stuff.

00:03:44.000 To me, it's more like real.

00:03:46.000 Yeah, how do those two worlds collide?

00:03:48.000 Because some of the things you're doing, they're just insane endurance and mental exercises.

00:03:55.000 And then other things you're doing are what you would consider magic.

00:04:00.000 Right.

00:04:00.000 So I love both separately, like independently.

00:04:03.000 Like I always love, like I had a karate teacher at the YMCA that used to make us all run barefoot in the snow in the winter in Brooklyn.

00:04:10.000 And all the kids, you know, we're young.

00:04:12.000 We're like six, seven.

00:04:13.000 And all the kids like, ah, you know, and afraid they were going to cut their feet on glass or whatever.

00:04:17.000 And I would run in it and I felt like I could do this because I wasn't good at other things physically.

00:04:23.000 Like I was born with my feet turned in and stuff like that.

00:04:26.000 So I felt like I could do these things.

00:04:29.000 So then I learned how to hold my breath.

00:04:31.000 And the reason I learned how to hold my breath was simply because I was on the swim team at the Y also.

00:04:36.000 And the other kids would swim back and forth and they'd destroy me because my feet didn't function perfectly well.

00:04:42.000 And what I learned is that if I didn't breathe, if I just swam, it would save me time because I didn't have to move my head, dip it out, you know, right?

00:04:50.000 So I would just swim.

00:04:51.000 And the coach would yell at me.

00:04:52.000 But suddenly I was no longer in last place.

00:04:54.000 I was like now second and sometimes first.

00:04:57.000 And that began my like, oh, God, you can actually do what the coach doesn't think is possible.

00:05:02.000 You could swim there and back without breathing.

00:05:04.000 And then the older kids would come to see me do that.

00:05:07.000 And I would like challenge them.

00:05:08.000 I'd be like...

00:05:10.000 Let's see, you could stay under the longest and you can go up and down five times.

00:05:14.000 I didn't understand the physiology of it, that like going up and down doesn't help.

00:05:18.000 It's more effective to just sit through the pain and just kind of chill.

00:05:21.000 But I would just sit there and they'd go up and come back down, which makes it worse that they'd be out.

00:05:27.000 Why does it make it worse?

00:05:28.000 Because the breath-holding thing is all about like a CO2 buildup in your bloodstream, and it's about a tolerance level to it.

00:05:35.000 So if you relax and efficiently keep your oxygen and not make this CO2 buildup more extreme, you can actually hold more efficiently.

00:05:42.000 So when you have that feeling, everybody has that feeling where you need to breathe, like...

00:05:46.000 It's not an O2 deprivation.

00:05:48.000 It's a trigger from a CO2 buildup, which is giving you an alert that, for example, in 20 minutes from now, you will not recover.

00:05:56.000 And I didn't believe that either.

00:05:58.000 A magician friend of mine who's amazing and one of my heroes in life, he told me a story as I was doing Buried Alive.

00:06:11.000 He said, you know...

00:06:13.000 You know, the Navy SEALs, you know, they black them out underwater so they're not afraid of drowning.

00:06:19.000 And I'm like, that can't, no way.

00:06:21.000 Like, because it seems so abstract to me, you know?

00:06:25.000 So, but it stuck in my brain.

00:06:27.000 And then when I wanted to do the water tank stunt and I started learning about freediving and stuff like that, I suddenly realized blacking out is pretty straightforward.

00:06:35.000 Like, you black out and then you get your head above the water and if you're supervised, you're fine.

00:06:39.000 So when I went to San Diego with the SEALs, I watched what they do and I actually did it, but I didn't black out.

00:06:44.000 I went back and forth a few times in the pool.

00:06:46.000 But they have that viewing pool and they rope the SEALs up to some 45-pound weights and they have to walk across the bottom of the pool and the instructors are swimming above them.

00:06:55.000 And when the seals black out, they cut the rope, bring them up to the top, and they're fine.

00:07:00.000 But what that teaches you is that you do not need to worry about being underwater.

00:07:05.000 Because if you're with a team, and by the way, nobody should try this.

00:07:09.000 There is extreme dangers to shallow water blackouts, which lead to death.

00:07:13.000 But if you are...

00:07:16.000 In somebody that's training and you have a team and you want to push it, as soon as you black out, it's like getting knocked out.

00:07:22.000 But it feels better.

00:07:23.000 It's not like getting knocked out with a punch.

00:07:25.000 It's like you get knocked out.

00:07:27.000 It's euphoric.

00:07:29.000 Choked out is euphoric.

00:07:30.000 Right.

00:07:31.000 Exactly.

00:07:32.000 Except this one's even better.

00:07:33.000 And then you have all these dreams.

00:07:35.000 You make it sound exciting.

00:07:37.000 That part of it, whenever I wake up from a blackout, I'm like, whoa!

00:07:42.000 That's how people wake up when they get choked out.

00:07:44.000 Really?

00:07:45.000 The same?

00:07:45.000 Yeah.

00:07:45.000 When people get choked out, they wake up almost like they were dreaming.

00:07:48.000 Like sometimes they think they're at a disco.

00:07:50.000 Yeah.

00:07:51.000 It's amazing.

00:07:52.000 They're like, what?

00:07:53.000 Oh, wow.

00:07:55.000 And it's not the best thing in the world for you, but it's way better for you than getting knocked unconscious.

00:08:01.000 Yeah?

00:08:02.000 Yeah, choked out is just a, it just shuts off the blood to the brain, and the brain shuts off.

00:08:08.000 And then it comes back online.

00:08:09.000 But there's no trauma.

00:08:10.000 Right.

00:08:11.000 Yeah, but it's not.

00:08:12.000 Yeah, so it's like a blacking out underwater.

00:08:14.000 But the blacking out underwater thing, probably not a good idea to do too many times though, right?

00:08:18.000 No, you could do it.

00:08:19.000 I mean, I've blacked out underwater a lot.

00:08:21.000 How many?

00:08:22.000 By the way, so...

00:08:23.000 How many times?

00:08:25.000 I don't know, like between 20 to 30. Oh, wow.

00:08:29.000 By the way, you guys were talking about me on the thing, about the breath hold thing.

00:08:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:33.000 One time I went 20 minutes and 2 seconds.

00:08:36.000 I almost did what you were talking about, the length of a show.

00:08:38.000 But I did 20 minutes and 2 seconds, and I had telemetry there, and I had pulmonary experts and everything like that.

00:08:43.000 And my heart rate dropped to 8 beats per minute. 0.99

00:08:47.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:08:48.000 And they pulled me up because they were freaked out. 1.00

00:08:50.000 They thought you were dying.

00:08:51.000 Yeah, but...

00:08:52.000 Back to what I was saying is the reason besides the Navy SEAL story that I knew that it made sense was because you hear about the kids in the news like in 1984 or whatever it was, a kid was under an icy river for 45 minutes with nothing.

00:09:08.000 Blacked out, unconscious, underwater for 45 minutes.

00:09:12.000 They rescue him out, pull him back, recover him, and full recovery.

00:09:18.000 So there's something that the body does that we don't understand.

00:09:22.000 But if you actualize, so because he blacked out and because it was so cold, the blood shunting occurred.

00:09:27.000 We're all like the same as when you get cold.

00:09:29.000 The blood rushes away from the extremities and protects the vital organs.

00:09:32.000 And because he didn't inhale the water because he was completely out of it, when they recovered him, they didn't even have to get water out of his lungs and he was perfectly fine.

00:09:41.000 Wow.

00:09:43.000 But that just shows you that there's like certain levels of what the body can tolerate that we have no idea.

00:09:51.000 So you, in learning how to swim and learning how to go all the way back and forth and holding your breath, this started this idea of holding your breath for an extreme long period of time.

00:10:01.000 Like what had been the record before you had, like 20 minutes and how many seconds?

00:10:06.000 Two seconds?

00:10:07.000 Yeah.

00:10:07.000 That's what you did?

00:10:07.000 Yeah, but that's not the record.

00:10:09.000 What had you done before that?

00:10:10.000 What had been your record?

00:10:11.000 Okay, so when I was a kid, I heard, as I start reading about Houdini, his, like, proud record of his lifetime, and he's the underwater escape king for 100 years ago, and he had, he was around the best swimmers, and he had access to, and he got up to three and a half minutes.

00:10:25.000 So by the time I was, like, uh...

00:10:29.000 Teenage, early teenager.

00:10:31.000 I got to three and a half minutes.

00:10:33.000 And did you think that that was a barrier that couldn't be crossed?

00:10:36.000 Well, I blacked out as I came out, but I didn't know what that all meant, right?

00:10:40.000 So I blacked out.

00:10:42.000 So I was like, okay, that 3.30 seems like the edge.

00:10:46.000 But then when I started working on the actual concept of like how long can you hold your breath for, then I started looking into it and I'm like, oh wow, there's like people that can do five minutes, six minutes, seven minutes.

00:10:57.000 And then there was a hypothetical record of a hypothetical...

00:11:05.000 13 minute record, but no evidence of it.

00:11:08.000 And that was on Pure O2. So it was a hypothetical Pure O2 record of 13. When you say on Pure O2, what's the process?

00:11:14.000 That flushes everything out and oxygenates your body.

00:11:17.000 So you start Pure O2, you hold on to Pure O2, and then you go under?

00:11:20.000 I purge really hard on Pure O2. So...

00:11:24.000 Which gets rid of the CO2 and gives you more room for oxygen.

00:11:27.000 And by the way, I just went up to 25,000 feet in an airplane, ascending at 500 feet per minute, doors open and everything, no oxygen.

00:11:36.000 And I was with Luke Aikens who jumped from 25,000 feet with no parachute and landed in that.

00:11:42.000 He was with me and two other, the pilot and two other guys.

00:11:44.000 We just right under 25, it was a 24-7, whatever.

00:11:50.000 I said, let's see who goes hypoxic first, right?

00:11:53.000 No, no, no, but you have to take the O2 monitors, you have to be on them, right?

00:12:01.000 And I was already in a hypobaric chamber with the FAA at Oklahoma City, and I started purging just to see what it would do, and my oxygen level shot up, which nobody believes is possible.

00:12:12.000 So I get into the airplane, and we put the monitors on, and everybody's around the same.

00:12:17.000 I was actually lower than Luke.

00:12:19.000 Like at 90, whatever, 5, 96. He was at like 97. He's like, oh, I'm winning right.

00:12:24.000 You're joking with me.

00:12:25.000 And as soon as we crossed 15,000 feet, his slowly is starting to come down and I start doing the breathing technique.

00:12:37.000 Purging out, like I said, right?

00:12:39.000 My oxygen levels, and we filmed all this, shot up to 98 and then 99%.

00:12:46.000 Is I went up to 23 plus thousand feet.

00:12:50.000 Now these guys think I'm a magician.

00:12:53.000 So they're like, yeah, uh-huh.

00:12:54.000 Like fake news.

00:12:55.000 That's what he wrote on the paper next to the levels because he was recording it.

00:12:58.000 So I took his monitor off of his finger and he took mine.

00:13:03.000 I put his monitor on my finger, put mine on his, bang!

00:13:08.000 His was dropping around 70 and mine was 98, 99. Then I switched with everybody on the plane and the oxygen levels with the breathing all the way up to that altitude.

00:13:19.000 And I'm not recommending this because I haven't tested enough, but they did stay up at 98, 99. And so my evidence for that was You hear about all the Sherpas that go up to the top of Everest, up to 29,000 feet, and they're not bringing oxygen.

00:13:36.000 I get it.

00:13:37.000 They're acclimating, but they're still at 29,000 plus feet.

00:13:42.000 So they're doing something that's allowing them to rewire their ability to not go hypoxic.

00:13:49.000 So this breathing technique, you're essentially exhaling more than you're breathing in.

00:13:53.000 So you're breathing a small amount in.

00:13:56.000 Then I fill up everything for full, but I mean full like top to bottom, hold for a second, and then exhale slowly.

00:14:06.000 Like for example, when we're done here, if you have 20 minutes, I'll get you up to a four and a half minute breath hold in 20 minutes.

00:14:15.000 And this is just through these breathing techniques.

00:14:17.000 Yeah.

00:14:17.000 When we're done with this, I'll show you how to do it.

00:14:20.000 And you will get up to four plus minutes for sure.

00:14:23.000 And how did you...

00:14:24.000 So you've learned that you could go three and a half minutes or three minutes plus, right?

00:14:29.000 Yeah.

00:14:29.000 And black out.

00:14:30.000 And then how did you have it in your head...

00:14:34.000 That you were going to eventually get to 20 minutes.

00:14:36.000 Okay, so you really want to hear all that?

00:14:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:14:39.000 It's a long...

00:14:40.000 Okay, let's go.

00:14:41.000 Okay, and I forget where I'm going sometimes.

00:14:43.000 Okay, it's okay.

00:14:43.000 Don't worry about it.

00:14:43.000 Okay, so you might have to remind me where we're going.

00:14:45.000 Yeah.

00:14:45.000 Okay.

00:14:46.000 I just want to know the process because you're a magician by trade, right?

00:14:50.000 Well, but first of all, I like Houdini.

00:14:52.000 So I love magic, but I like Houdini.

00:14:54.000 And Houdini was like king of cards as well, but he's a guy that's doing real things.

00:14:58.000 And then I like guys that are like, as I go to the Museum of Broadcasting because there was no YouTube or whatever.

00:15:04.000 So I'd look at like these magic, you search magic, and I'd find like guys that would like drink a gallon of water, drink a liter of kerosene.

00:15:12.000 He would float all the kerosene on top of the water, and then he would spit out kerosene out of his mouth, look like a human dragon, and then put the fire out with a gallon of water.

00:15:21.000 So it is magic, but it's art.

00:15:26.000 It's mind-blowing.

00:15:27.000 It's a performance piece.

00:15:30.000 Now look, there's guys that are card guys that are like that also.

00:15:35.000 Lots of people I love, they do the cards in a way that's like...

00:15:39.000 But that act to me was what pressed a button.

00:15:43.000 It was like, whoa.

00:15:44.000 Like, how is he converting his body to do a trick?

00:15:48.000 And there's a guy today performing called Stevie Starr, who's called the human regurgitator, but he swallows crazy things.

00:15:55.000 Like, so he combines magic with his abilities.

00:15:58.000 So he went on Jay Leno, I think it was Leno or Carson.

00:16:03.000 He takes, you know, the little film canisters that you used to drink?

00:16:06.000 So he puts a film canister empty, closes it for the, you know, you get the 35, and then he goes, and then he swallows it.

00:16:14.000 So it's in, it's, yeah, it's gone.

00:16:17.000 He goes like that, it's gone.

00:16:18.000 Then he would take a bunch of water, drink that.

00:16:23.000 And then there'd be a cup with a goldfish in it.

00:16:25.000 Drinks the cup and the goldfish.

00:16:27.000 And then he'd have Jay Leno sign the cap, the lid thing to the thing, with a piece of tape and sign it, right?

00:16:34.000 Then he'd take that and go, pfft.

00:16:36.000 Now everything is gone.

00:16:37.000 Then he does these weird sounds and movements, which is part of his show, right?

00:16:41.000 And then he brings it up, spits it out, and...

00:16:46.000 The film canister is sealed, and in it is the water and the fish, and it's sealed with the signature.

00:16:53.000 So to me, that's like the coolest magic.

00:16:56.000 Because when you see a trick, you know, like, oh, that's cool, but it's a trick.

00:17:01.000 So it's like you're being removed from being able to, like, absorb.

00:17:04.000 But when you see somewhere, somebody's doing something crazy, and it seems like a trick, but it's also like, wait, this is real because he's really doing this.

00:17:12.000 It's just way more exciting, you know?

00:17:14.000 I understand.

00:17:15.000 Do you know how he did that one?

00:17:19.000 Yeah, I talk to him all the time.

00:17:22.000 I love Stevie Starr.

00:17:24.000 You know how it was done, but you can't reveal that, right?

00:17:28.000 Okay, there's another guy, Tom Mullica, who passed away, and he was this guy.

00:17:33.000 He's the first magician I ever saw.

00:17:35.000 He did a simple card trick, and I was crying.

00:17:38.000 I was like in tears.

00:17:39.000 I was like, oh my god.

00:17:41.000 And he passed away and I filmed that.

00:17:43.000 And I'm going to do a really amazing piece about him because he is incredible.

00:17:48.000 But he also was on like Johnny Carson shows.

00:17:51.000 What he would do Is he would take a pack of cigarettes, throw them into his mouth one at a time, light them on fire, bring them back out, and then throw them into his mouth one at a time, eat all the cigarettes.

00:18:03.000 Yes! 0.93

00:18:04.000 There he is.

00:18:06.000 And watch, he eats the cigarettes.

00:18:08.000 Wow, that's great how fast they pulled that up.

00:18:11.000 It's not they, it's young Jamie.

00:18:12.000 Oh, it's you?

00:18:12.000 He's a wizard.

00:18:13.000 Yeah.

00:18:14.000 He's a wizard of his own right.

00:18:15.000 By the way, the sack killed him, so that's how dedicated to his craft he is.

00:18:19.000 Did it really?

00:18:20.000 Yeah.

00:18:20.000 Yeah, look, he was eating a pack of cigarettes every night on stage.

00:18:24.000 So he swallows them and then he likes more.

00:18:28.000 Yeah, but wait, he also throws them into his mouth.

00:18:31.000 Oh my god.

00:18:33.000 So now he's chewing them.

00:18:34.000 What is he chewing?

00:18:36.000 He's just amazing.

00:18:38.000 I get to where he's throwing them into his mouth too.

00:18:41.000 Oh, boy.

00:18:42.000 Yes, he throws them into his mouth one at a time.

00:18:44.000 They're lit.

00:18:44.000 He chews them up, swallows them.

00:18:46.000 His mouth is empty.

00:18:47.000 Look at the lady. 1.00

00:18:47.000 She's like, what the fuck am I doing here? 1.00

00:18:50.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

00:18:50.000 Look at that stack in his mouth. 1.00

00:18:53.000 And then, look, the whole thing goes in.

00:18:56.000 By the way, he also throws them one at a time, does all that, puts the paper in.

00:19:00.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:19:02.000 And swallows it all.

00:19:06.000 That's it.

00:19:07.000 Oh my god.

00:19:09.000 Yep.

00:19:09.000 He's so amazing.

00:19:11.000 So how did this kill him?

00:19:13.000 Every single night.

00:19:14.000 Just cancer?

00:19:15.000 20 shows a night at a bar doing cigarettes in your mouth on fire, eating them, swallowing them.

00:19:21.000 Right.

00:19:22.000 But what did he die from?

00:19:23.000 Cancer?

00:19:24.000 Yeah.

00:19:25.000 Yeah.

00:19:26.000 Boy.

00:19:27.000 Yeah.

00:19:27.000 But wait, so...

00:19:28.000 So he spits them out eventually or he just swallows them?

00:19:31.000 I'm not gonna give away his genius.

00:19:34.000 Right, but in the video, do they ever come out?

00:19:36.000 No, no, no, they're gone.

00:19:39.000 See, that's the thing.

00:19:40.000 This is a guy that died for his art.

00:19:43.000 Legitimately.

00:19:45.000 Yeah.

00:19:45.000 Wow.

00:19:46.000 So another, the guy I was telling you about, that's like my favorite card, the guy that showed me the Navy Seal, but just an amazing magician.

00:19:53.000 He has a library.

00:19:54.000 He's like this genius that if he came here, which he never would because he would never show anybody anything, but if he did, And he showed you a couple of moves.

00:20:03.000 Like the first move he showed me was actually a card move called Ascension where he makes the card float right through the deck.

00:20:09.000 And like the greatest magician of all time, the card magician said it was one of the greatest tricks ever done.

00:20:14.000 You won't be able to find it anywhere because it's not a video.

00:20:16.000 But he only does it to a couple of magicians.

00:20:20.000 So he performs for like, you know, a handful of his friends.

00:20:24.000 He shows a move and it's mind-blowing.

00:20:27.000 And luckily he showed me stuff when I was young.

00:20:29.000 But...

00:20:30.000 He'll never, ever perform.

00:20:32.000 He's like, does a painter paint so he can show people?

00:20:34.000 Or does a painter paint to paint?

00:20:36.000 But whenever you're on the phone with him, you just hear cards.

00:20:38.000 He's like...

00:20:40.000 No, he's doing it.

00:20:42.000 He's doing, I'm telling you, like 13 hours a day, he's doing card moves alone.

00:20:47.000 And I said, I was like, Bill, what do you do?

00:20:49.000 Do you like do the trick to yourself?

00:20:51.000 I'm like, ah, how did I do that?

00:20:53.000 You know what I mean?

00:20:54.000 But he doesn't believe that it's not to him, it's not a performance.

00:20:58.000 To him, it's just about the technical love and feel of that.

00:21:02.000 Well, there's a Japanese phrase for that, about doing something...

00:21:06.000 Over and over and over and over the exact same thing over and over again to achieve a level of perfection that is almost physically unattainable to mere mortals.

00:21:17.000 You bypass what a person thinks the body would be capable of doing.

00:21:22.000 Yep.

00:21:24.000 That's it.

00:21:25.000 That's what he's doing.

00:21:26.000 That is the thing.

00:21:28.000 You know who James Nestor is?

00:21:30.000 Yeah, of course.

00:21:31.000 He wrote the book Deep.

00:21:32.000 Yeah, Deep is amazing.

00:21:34.000 I don't know Deep, but I've read Breath.

00:21:35.000 That's a book he wrote, Deep.

00:21:36.000 Yeah.

00:21:37.000 Breath is the one that I read, and I had him on the podcast to talk about it.

00:21:40.000 He's amazing.

00:21:40.000 I was talking about this monk that was literally meditating and doing breathing exercises all day long for 30 years.

00:21:51.000 Yeah.

00:22:07.000 All day long for 30 years, and most people just aren't willing to do that.

00:22:10.000 But if you do do that, there are some levels that you can reach that are just unattainable to a normal person.

00:22:18.000 And even if you would talk to scientists and doctors, it is attainable.

00:22:25.000 When somebody gets paralyzed or something, right?

00:22:27.000 I've seen people that the doctors say, you're done, you have no shot.

00:22:30.000 And they spend all day of every single waking moment trying to get like a little moment, just like a tiny bit of movement in their little toe.

00:22:39.000 And eventually, if they do what you're saying.

00:22:41.000 So it is that.

00:22:43.000 Yeah, it is that.

00:22:44.000 But most people are not willing to get to that place.

00:22:49.000 Most people are not going to sit there shuffling cards 13 hours a day like your friend.

00:22:52.000 Yeah.

00:22:53.000 But there's people that can do that.

00:22:55.000 Like when I was watching you move the cards around, it's interesting, like, you ever watch a movie where a guy's smoking a cigarette, you know, that guy doesn't really smoke.

00:23:02.000 You can kind of tell.

00:23:03.000 By the way, he's holding the cigarette.

00:23:05.000 It just feels odd.

00:23:06.000 That's good.

00:23:06.000 You're moving these cards around like your edge detection, like your understanding of where the edge...

00:23:13.000 It's very interesting to watch your fingers move because they're so educated.

00:23:19.000 You know, because of all the commentary that I do with martial arts and my years in martial arts, I'm fascinated by how different people move and they do the same thing.

00:23:30.000 It looks different when other people do it.

00:23:33.000 There's certain people that will throw a punch and you just walk at it and you go, Jesus!

00:23:36.000 There's something about the fluidity of the motion that's stunning even to this day. 0.99

00:23:42.000 And when I was watching you move your fingers and watching you move the cards, I was like, this motherfucker has shuffled a lot of cards. 0.98

00:23:49.000 There's a weirdness to the movement of your hands. 0.99

00:23:52.000 I think it's what you're saying.

00:23:53.000 It's like the punch thing.

00:23:54.000 Yes.

00:23:55.000 Yeah, but it is...

00:23:57.000 The mind forces the body into moving over and over and over again.

00:24:06.000 You do it to...

00:24:08.000 This level of perfection that for a person like me who doesn't know anything about cards.

00:24:13.000 I don't know anything about card tricks.

00:24:15.000 I don't know how they work.

00:24:16.000 I can't shuffle. 0.99

00:24:17.000 If you watch me shuffle, you'd fucking laugh at me. 0.99

00:24:19.000 But I watch your hand movements. 0.99

00:24:21.000 I'm like, oh, this is amazing.

00:24:24.000 It's amazing.

00:24:25.000 But now there's guys that I'm around that I wouldn't even pull a deck of cards out of my pocket if they're near me.

00:24:31.000 Because they're that guy that does it 13 hours a day.

00:24:33.000 Yeah, like the guy I just told you about.

00:24:36.000 Isn't that fascinating, though?

00:24:38.000 Yeah, but there's also different aspects to it.

00:24:41.000 There's also guys...

00:24:45.000 I'm not going to go into details.

00:24:47.000 Okay.

00:24:48.000 But I met...

00:24:48.000 I feel like I shouldn't even say this, but it's fine.

00:24:51.000 Because it's fine.

00:24:52.000 So I met a kid once who moved to Las Vegas when he was...

00:24:58.000 This is a crazy story to tell. 0.99

00:25:01.000 Damn. 1.00

00:25:02.000 But it's a good story. 1.00

00:25:03.000 Okay?

00:25:04.000 I won't go into details.

00:25:05.000 So he moved to Las Vegas when he was 12. He moved there because he wanted to meet a specific person who was considered...

00:25:14.000 The best card sheet ever.

00:25:17.000 Meaning, this is the guy that the reason that Vegas has those, instead of the dealer peeking the down card, they have to put it into a machine and push a button.

00:25:30.000 He's the guy that the movie Casino was built around with the computer in the shoe.

00:25:34.000 He was the best card Card sheet ever.

00:25:38.000 But among magicians, he's like a phenomenon.

00:25:41.000 Because he's working on moves not to entertain anybody.

00:25:44.000 He's working on moves so he doesn't get his hands smashed up against a wall at Binion's.

00:25:50.000 So he's working on moves so he's not going to get killed.

00:25:54.000 Survival.

00:25:55.000 Yes.

00:25:57.000 So this kid at the age of 12...

00:26:11.000 I think?

00:26:21.000 15 hours a day on this craps table.

00:26:24.000 By the way, their little bed is like under the table.

00:26:27.000 You know what I mean?

00:26:27.000 It's a small space and it's a real craps table, like a nice one.

00:26:31.000 The only thing he does is repetitiously throw this and he can helicopter spin the dice.

00:26:37.000 So you can't see them doing this.

00:26:40.000 They have such force going around this way that when they hit the wall, one die won't break the number.

00:26:44.000 And he can throw it exactly to this part of the table, missing this from across the table so that one die locks in every time he can guarantee that number.

00:26:54.000 He did that every day for almost a decade until he could throw dice better than any other human being in the world.

00:27:02.000 Then he went and got a job at one of the casinos that techs for car cheats and worked in the craps tables.

00:27:08.000 It's all he did.

00:27:10.000 And as soon as he turned 21, he went out, travels the world, and wins the exact amount of money that he should win playing craps where you're not detected, but you can- What is the exact amount?

00:27:22.000 I mean, under, you know- Under a million?

00:27:25.000 Yeah, probably a few million a year or so.

00:27:27.000 I'm saying it's not like he's going in and getting greedy.

00:27:29.000 It's very smart and structured.

00:27:31.000 Yeah, and going to different places.

00:27:34.000 And he can throw dice like I've never seen anybody throw dice.

00:27:37.000 It's crazy.

00:27:38.000 I know that they take people that are really good at cards.

00:27:41.000 Like my friend Dana White has been barred from casinos because he wins at blackjack.

00:27:45.000 He's probably just counting.

00:27:46.000 I don't know what he's doing.

00:27:47.000 Yeah, he's counting.

00:27:49.000 But they've kicked him out of casinos because he's won a lot of money, but he's also lost a lot of money, which is bizarre to me that you can go to a place and do really well, and they're like, you're doing too well, you've got to get out of here.

00:27:58.000 Well, they also, it says by and every day, we have the right to refuse anybody, which is important.

00:28:03.000 But do they do that with dice, is the question.

00:28:06.000 I get how they would do that with cards.

00:28:08.000 Okay, so do you want to hear a dice story?

00:28:09.000 But this isn't me doing magic.

00:28:10.000 This is luck.

00:28:11.000 Okay.

00:28:12.000 Okay.

00:28:13.000 I don't believe you.

00:28:14.000 It is.

00:28:14.000 I don't like the way you paused.

00:28:17.000 But I'm serious.

00:28:18.000 It's luck.

00:28:18.000 I know, but I'm saying that because I'm trying to be convincing.

00:28:21.000 Okay.

00:28:22.000 Because I'm telling the truth.

00:28:24.000 But anyway, I go to the Palms.

00:28:27.000 Yeah.

00:28:27.000 Okay.

00:28:28.000 And they had a bet on the craps table called the fire bet.

00:28:32.000 And it was like a game where you have to hit all the numbers open and close without butt crapping out.

00:28:39.000 So when I walk up to the table, right away, the pit boss and everybody, they make a big deal.

00:28:46.000 Like, you can't touch the dice.

00:28:47.000 And I said, you can call up.

00:28:49.000 I can touch the dice.

00:28:50.000 Because, you know, they invited me.

00:28:52.000 So I said, I can touch the dice.

00:28:54.000 And...

00:28:55.000 Because I wanted to throw.

00:28:57.000 I don't want to just gamble on a rant.

00:29:01.000 Because even though I'm not cheating, I still feel like maybe I have a little bit of an ability that's given.

00:29:08.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:09.000 Not a cheating ability, but maybe I'm a little better than a random person.

00:29:13.000 I don't know.

00:29:14.000 Right?

00:29:14.000 Got it.

00:29:17.000 The pit-ball, they make a joke, and then the woman pit-ball comes out, she says, well, if you take your shirt off, we'll let you throw the dice. 1.00

00:29:23.000 Joking, right?

00:29:24.000 So anyway, what I do is I bet for everybody at the table.

00:29:27.000 I go to the low-stakes table always.

00:29:29.000 So the high-stakes table is that Super Bowl team right over there, and they're like, ah! 0.75

00:29:32.000 They're all crazy, right?

00:29:33.000 Like all excited with these big bets.

00:29:36.000 I'm here with this table.

00:29:37.000 We all have little bets, right?

00:29:39.000 That I say, let's put a fire bet down for everybody.

00:29:42.000 So I put the fire bet down for every single person at the table, including the dealers, I mean the pit bull, you know, with the dice.

00:29:50.000 And I'm throwing the dice, throwing the dice.

00:29:54.000 This goes on for two and a half hours.

00:29:56.000 I keep throwing the dice.

00:29:58.000 I didn't crap out.

00:30:00.000 I hit sevens in between each number.

00:30:02.000 I don't know how craps work.

00:30:03.000 So you have to roll like a five, let's say.

00:30:06.000 And then I'm like, oh no, I need to roll another five, which is statistically much more difficult than a seven because seven is the most common number to come up.

00:30:14.000 So if you roll a 5, you're like, uh-oh, that's hard because you can only get a 2-3 or a 3-2 on both dice or a 1-4 or a 4-1.

00:30:22.000 So you have a 4 out of 36, so it's a 1 and 9. So you're probably going to crap out before you get the number.

00:30:28.000 That's why the game is to their favor.

00:30:31.000 So I'm throwing the dice and it's two and a half hours later.

00:30:37.000 And they stop everything.

00:30:39.000 And they're like, your fire bet just hit.

00:30:45.000 And the table goes, what does that mean?

00:30:46.000 They go, well, you all just won like 10 grand each.

00:30:50.000 And they all go, ah!

00:30:52.000 Everybody's going, they gave me the taste.

00:30:54.000 Everybody's going nuts.

00:30:55.000 And we hit the fire bet, which they've now removed from the palms, by the way.

00:30:58.000 But it was a pretty unheard of, like the odds of hitting that bet is pretty rare.

00:31:05.000 But it's just luck.

00:31:07.000 Nobody should hit that bet.

00:31:09.000 I mean, statistically, it's unlikely and I wasn't cheating.

00:31:13.000 So, yeah.

00:31:15.000 So, do they...

00:31:17.000 The question is...

00:31:18.000 For some reason, I'm lucky with dice.

00:31:21.000 But I can tell you I would be...

00:31:24.000 If I was great with dice, I'd tell you I was great with dice.

00:31:26.000 By the way, I actually have a die on me.

00:31:29.000 I didn't even hear the story for this reason, but I do have a die on me.

00:31:33.000 Have you practiced with dice?

00:31:36.000 No, yes, but I'm terrible at it.

00:31:40.000 But it does make sense that if you look at what that is, that that's a physical thing, and then if you develop a touch, you develop a feel, you do something over and over and over again.

00:31:51.000 Well, this is different, but here, look, take the die, and can you like...

00:31:58.000 Put it between your hand or whatever.

00:32:00.000 And can you mix it like that?

00:32:02.000 And then squeeze it when you're done.

00:32:04.000 Keep it hidden, but put it on the table.

00:32:06.000 But make sure you can't see it and I can't see it.

00:32:08.000 You agree like no one could see that, right?

00:32:10.000 No one could see it.

00:32:11.000 Are you sure?

00:32:12.000 100%.

00:32:12.000 Do you want to do it again?

00:32:13.000 Try it again.

00:32:13.000 No.

00:32:14.000 No, because it could be weighted.

00:32:15.000 Or you're done.

00:32:16.000 You're good?

00:32:17.000 Yeah.

00:32:17.000 You're good?

00:32:17.000 Yeah.

00:32:18.000 Okay.

00:32:19.000 Say a number between one and six.

00:32:21.000 Pick a number up to six.

00:32:22.000 Okay, that five is what I said on the craps table, right?

00:32:25.000 But I already know that it's a four.

00:32:29.000 And the five is here, basically.

00:32:32.000 How do you know that?

00:32:35.000 That's uncomfortable.

00:32:39.000 Can you do that again?

00:32:42.000 Probably not.

00:32:43.000 You know what we'll do?

00:32:44.000 Let's stop whenever you want.

00:32:45.000 Yeah, because it could be like a weighted die.

00:32:47.000 By the way, that's how people cheat with dices. 1.00

00:32:49.000 They also take the die and they flip it and they want it to be, you know, so it's like you throw the numbers.

00:32:55.000 So you said you wanted a five, right?

00:32:57.000 Yeah.

00:32:58.000 Go ahead.

00:32:59.000 It's five.

00:33:00.000 Get that voodoo away from me, man. 1.00

00:33:02.000 The fuck is that? 1.00

00:33:04.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:33:07.000 That's so weird.

00:33:08.000 That must be a rush for you though, just to blow people's minds like that all the time.

00:33:12.000 But see, so it's not, you know, I don't think of it...

00:33:15.000 So what happens is the digital fixation part of like the love of just like learning something new and exciting.

00:33:20.000 That's like really the stimulus is like that fixation almost.

00:33:25.000 It's like the meditative thing that you're talking about.

00:33:28.000 But as a magician that is performing and trying to make TV shows, it's really difficult because you have to like keep coming up with new things, which is...

00:33:36.000 That's hard to do.

00:33:37.000 How did you first get on television?

00:33:40.000 How did you convince someone to let you try this on television?

00:33:43.000 Well, so back in those days, the only magic that you could see, and like I said, it was pre, you couldn't go watch it or get it or anything.

00:33:50.000 So there's no way to see magic.

00:33:51.000 And if you were me with a single mother in Brooklyn or whatever, how are you going to go?

00:33:56.000 There's no magic show.

00:33:57.000 I never went to a magic show.

00:34:00.000 So what happened was all those World's Greatest TV specials were playing and they were called World's Greatest Men and I would watch them and they were like the opposite of that.

00:34:09.000 They were like hard to watch.

00:34:13.000 It was like glossy, big, dynamic and illusionist.

00:34:17.000 It's so far away from the whole thing.

00:34:19.000 So I'm like, there's nothing magical about all this.

00:34:24.000 So okay, I think about it and I'm like, But I'm doing magic everywhere all the time.

00:34:33.000 So one of the ways I'm making money is I'm going into those fancy restaurants in New York City, like those upper park avenues, and I do magic to the manager, to this.

00:34:43.000 And I'm like, if...

00:34:45.000 Can I do magic to the table?

00:34:47.000 And it's like what I did to you there.

00:34:48.000 Like, do the magic.

00:34:49.000 Like, oh, that's great.

00:34:50.000 I was like, can I do magic to the people eating?

00:34:52.000 And I won't ask them for anything.

00:34:53.000 I bought like a nice suit at Century 21, like a $100 jacket.

00:34:58.000 You know, but anyway, so I go up to these tables.

00:35:02.000 And that's a hard situation.

00:35:04.000 Because it's very difficult to approach people that do not want you near them and try to figure out how to win with magic.

00:35:11.000 And it's like, even on the street, wherever you do it, it's like a complicated scenario.

00:35:16.000 Once a camera comes up, it changes it.

00:35:18.000 Because now they're like, oh, he has a camera.

00:35:20.000 It's fine, right?

00:35:21.000 But you'd have to walk up to a table of a bunch like us.

00:35:25.000 We're sitting there and some like, you know, sketchy magician kid comes up to us like, hey, can I show you a card trick?

00:35:31.000 And you and I are going to be like nice to him probably, but not really want him around.

00:35:35.000 Right.

00:35:36.000 What I had to learn quickly was like little things that are so important, like distance, like how close should you be to the table or how far?

00:35:45.000 And then you start to really understand the psychology of the magic is way more important than the tricks, right?

00:35:50.000 So if you're too close, you're like...

00:35:53.000 Right.

00:36:17.000 Yeah.

00:36:25.000 There was four guys sitting in the middle playing spades. 0.99

00:36:28.000 The only other kid that looked like me that was in there got the shit kicked out of him, right? 1.00

00:36:33.000 And I'm like, I'm going to get my ass kicked, right? 1.00

00:36:35.000 Because I was with a button-up shirt. 0.99

00:36:37.000 Anyway, so the guys are sitting in the middle that were playing spades.

00:36:42.000 I go, let me show you guys something.

00:36:43.000 Come on.

00:36:44.000 I grab the deck of cards, and I start doing magic to the four toughest-looking guys in the cell, right?

00:36:51.000 Within two minutes, they're erupting.

00:36:53.000 And once they're erupting, the whole – everybody, because Central Book is removed here, everybody's standing around going nuts.

00:36:59.000 And then all of a sudden, the guards are there.

00:37:01.000 And now everybody's watching together.

00:37:02.000 And I'm like, this is what the magic show needs to be.

00:37:05.000 Whether you're like here or this, whether you're this, that, whether you're young, old, rich, poor, black, white, whatever. 0.50

00:37:12.000 Everybody wants to see it.

00:37:13.000 No, no.

00:37:14.000 Everybody's got a good side.

00:37:16.000 I want to show that people are all the same, you know?

00:37:20.000 Sure, there's some that are horrific and do horrible, but at the core of everybody, there's like an innocent kid somewhere, maybe got really far lost, and magic just pulls that out of people.

00:37:31.000 Yeah.

00:37:53.000 Little, happy, sweet kids.

00:37:56.000 You get the O out of them.

00:37:58.000 And that's what Magic did originally to my mom.

00:38:01.000 I would do it to her, and she'd be reacting.

00:38:03.000 And even if she had a terrible day, she was working three jobs.

00:38:07.000 This made her happy.

00:38:09.000 Wow.

00:38:10.000 That's a cool origin story.

00:38:13.000 And it makes sense, that feeling that you get when you show someone, like the card trick you did in the other room, and everybody's like, oh!

00:38:21.000 That O, the O that you get out of people, that rush, that is, because at that moment, no one's thinking of anything else. 0.99

00:38:29.000 At that moment, they're like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:38:32.000 How did you what? 1.00

00:38:33.000 Oh, man.

00:38:34.000 And by the way, I've walked many times when people were fighting, about to erupt into big fights.

00:38:39.000 I walked into the middle of those fights, started doing magic, and those fights, no, I know, and then the fights were done.

00:38:45.000 Oh! 0.60

00:38:45.000 Done. 0.60

00:38:46.000 Everybody's like, what?

00:38:47.000 Do you want to hear the funniest, non-magical magic story?

00:38:50.000 Sure, sure.

00:38:51.000 Okay, so after the TV show comes out, stuff like that, I get more known.

00:38:54.000 By the way, it's the World's Greatest City, but then I was like, okay, let me do the opposite of that, so I called it Street Magic, because I was trying to come up with the lowest name.

00:39:01.000 Like, I was trying to come up with set the expectations as low as possible, right?

00:39:05.000 Because World's Greatest, and you see, like...

00:39:08.000 So I come out.

00:39:09.000 I'm doing like card tricks, right?

00:39:10.000 But anyway, so I'm like driving with my friend in one of those smart cars in New York, and it's like the coldest day in New York.

00:39:18.000 It's like freezing, like a February, like 12 degrees out type situation.

00:39:25.000 We're stuck at a red light, and there's a car with these four people outside of it, and you could see they're struggling.

00:39:34.000 They couldn't get the door open, so they realized they lost their keys.

00:39:39.000 They couldn't figure it out.

00:39:40.000 They couldn't get into their car, right?

00:39:42.000 But I know that that's not what's going on.

00:39:44.000 It's freezing, so I understand the situation.

00:39:47.000 So I go, Doug, stop one second, and I... Walk up next to this group, walk up to the car, pull the door open, but I like, it made it look like I'm just pulling it, but I was giving it for, the door opens up and it looks like I did nothing.

00:40:02.000 And then I get back in the car and leave and I hear, they go, Dad, Steve!

00:40:05.000 And they go, ah!

00:40:05.000 And it was like the best trick I ever did, but it was just opening up a door on a frozen night because I knew that it was just frozen.

00:40:13.000 But that's the same as what magic is.

00:40:17.000 So there's a book called Magic and Showmanship, which is all about what makes magic effective.

00:40:24.000 And it's called The Ham Sandwich.

00:40:26.000 He says, if you just said, reach in your pocket, now there's a ham sandwich, that's a good trick.

00:40:31.000 But if you were like, man, I'm hungry, I would love a ham sandwich, and I'd already put it there, and I'm like, reach in your pocket, and then there's...

00:40:38.000 Real magic.

00:40:39.000 So it's just context.

00:40:41.000 That's where it's so baffling. 0.98

00:40:43.000 Because then people walk away, how the fuck did he know I was going to say ham sandwich? 0.97

00:40:47.000 Like the folded car that you somehow or another shoved into Jeff's wrist. 0.97

00:40:51.000 Below his watch.

00:40:53.000 We're all like, okay, what?

00:40:56.000 I mean, I know there's something to it.

00:40:59.000 I don't know what you're doing, but that O, the result, the O, is pretty phenomenal.

00:41:04.000 But in that moment, no one's thinking of anything else.

00:41:07.000 Yeah, but it's short.

00:41:09.000 No, but there's also a lot of people that are trying to figure it out.

00:41:13.000 Yeah, but they're still going, oh!

00:41:15.000 Even if they're trying to figure it out, they're not thinking of anything other than that trick.

00:41:20.000 That moment.

00:41:22.000 They might be trying to figure it out, but they're still, they're not thinking about, oh, I've got to feed the dog.

00:41:27.000 They're thinking about that moment.

00:41:28.000 Unless they're like good friends of mine.

00:41:29.000 They're doing magic and they're like, oh, okay.

00:41:33.000 But that's different.

00:41:35.000 Yeah, we can all get too accustomed to things.

00:41:38.000 So, you first get on television, you first do these things, and then your magic evolves, and your magic goes from being just magic to some of the more insane things you've done, like standing in a block of ice.

00:41:52.000 For how long did you do it for?

00:41:54.000 70?

00:41:54.000 It's like 63 hours.

00:41:55.000 63 hours.

00:41:56.000 I'm always late, so I showed up late.

00:41:58.000 So I missed the length of time I was supposed to do, so that's all.

00:42:02.000 But I'm always late.

00:42:03.000 I made it here on time, though, didn't I? You were early.

00:42:05.000 Yeah.

00:42:06.000 Perfect.

00:42:07.000 I rode the motorcycle here and was flying because I wanted to be on time, so I flew.

00:42:12.000 You were on time.

00:42:13.000 Yeah.

00:42:14.000 The ice thing.

00:42:16.000 What made you decide to stand in a block of ice for 60 plus hours?

00:42:20.000 Well, so I'll tell you that.

00:42:21.000 So you were saying how do you go from the magic tricks to these extreme physical endurance and mind things.

00:42:27.000 So studying Houdini and all that stuff.

00:42:28.000 And then there's a poster of Houdini that I loved where he was buried alive, but he never did the stunt.

00:42:34.000 He died before he got to do it, but he was going to be buried alive underground in a coffin.

00:42:38.000 So I stare at...

00:42:39.000 I love that poster since I was a kid.

00:42:42.000 It's like in the magic books, you see that poster.

00:42:44.000 And anyway, so Bill, again, the guy I told you about, Bill Kalush, comes up to me and he's like, what about this?

00:42:50.000 And he shows me an image of an Indian fakir that was buried alive for a month. 0.99

00:42:54.000 He's like, what if you pretend to be buried alive in Central Park?

00:42:56.000 We'll sneak you out and you'll come back a month later.

00:42:59.000 And I was like...

00:43:00.000 I always wanted to do, like, Houdini-like things, but I never wanted to copy.

00:43:05.000 But that one he never did, so I was kind of like, well, that's interesting, but what if instead of doing it the way he did it, what if I did it and everybody could see that I was buried alive?

00:43:15.000 So what if I was really just buried alive?

00:43:18.000 Like, it can't be that hard.

00:43:19.000 He's like, yeah, you can't do that.

00:43:21.000 And I was staying at his place, so we got a coffin from Queens, where actually Houdini was buried.

00:43:26.000 I bought a coffin.

00:43:27.000 We brought it back to his house.

00:43:28.000 And then I would just practice sleeping in the coffin.

00:43:30.000 I know, but then suddenly I realized you don't eat food.

00:43:34.000 And then if you have a little thing to go to the bathroom, I did four days like nothing.

00:43:37.000 So I'm like, okay, I can do a week.

00:43:38.000 And that was it.

00:43:39.000 And then I pushed the idea of doing the Buried Alive and convinced people to let me do it publicly.

00:43:47.000 Like, firemen and stuff, like, would come to the stunt in the middle of the night, and they would shine, like, holograms at me and their lights and stuff.

00:43:53.000 Oh, that's the ice.

00:43:55.000 And then they would assume that I wasn't actually in there.

00:43:58.000 Okay, so here.

00:43:59.000 So back to this one.

00:44:02.000 Well, let's not jump around.

00:44:04.000 So the buried alive thing.

00:44:06.000 Where did you do it physically?

00:44:08.000 That was in New York City on the west side.

00:44:11.000 Trump had like this bunch of properties that he was developing.

00:44:15.000 And I was like, I want to be buried alive on one of your properties.

00:44:18.000 Is that possible?

00:44:19.000 He's like, sure.

00:44:20.000 He just sent me his driver and I went around and...

00:44:23.000 That's where I did my first stunt.

00:44:25.000 How could they see you, though?

00:44:26.000 I'm not aware of this one.

00:44:28.000 Yeah, so it was see-through.

00:44:31.000 And then we put six tons of water on top of it.

00:44:34.000 So that's basically it.

00:44:37.000 And how are you getting oxygen?

00:44:39.000 See those two big holes?

00:44:41.000 See the holes above my head right there?

00:44:43.000 So the air was being blown in and out.

00:44:46.000 But it's pretty straightforward.

00:44:48.000 That one's, to me, not that impressive.

00:44:50.000 You just laid there for a week.

00:44:52.000 Yeah.

00:44:53.000 You know what the hard part of it is?

00:45:00.000 You would never anticipate this being the hard part, but if you're not used to peeing while standing in front of lots of people staring at you...

00:45:10.000 It's actually really hard.

00:45:11.000 So I'd be buried alive and I had the trucker's tube on and all that stuff, which is like a con with a cath or whatever.

00:45:17.000 And people are there the whole time.

00:45:20.000 It suddenly became like an event.

00:45:23.000 And they were like, oh, we'll cover it so no one can see.

00:45:26.000 I'm like, no, then people are going to think I'm sneaking in and out.

00:45:29.000 So I had to learn.

00:45:30.000 So I would close my eyes, like when you were a kid, sleeping, and you'd have those dreams.

00:45:35.000 And it would take me hours, and I'd finally be able to pee, right?

00:45:40.000 And by the way, I didn't eat for a few weeks before, so I had no food, so the other wasn't an issue.

00:45:45.000 But what happened by midway through the stunt, I'd be waving and smiling and peeing, and it was like nothing, you know?

00:45:53.000 But these are things that you don't consider when you're practicing in your coffin in your house.

00:45:58.000 So you didn't eat for how long?

00:46:00.000 Two weeks beforehand?

00:46:01.000 Yeah, but I was always into fasting.

00:46:03.000 I read Siddhartha as a kid, and I had done like a week with just water and knew the body's really good with that.

00:46:12.000 So you were comfortable with the fact that you were able to fast and that wouldn't be an issue.

00:46:17.000 Yeah.

00:46:18.000 And you were comfortable with the fact that you were getting air.

00:46:20.000 Yeah.

00:46:20.000 And where are you drinking water from?

00:46:21.000 How are you getting water?

00:46:22.000 Oh, I had like a little bit of water in there that I could suck through a thing like that.

00:46:26.000 And that was fine.

00:46:27.000 It was like, it was enough.

00:46:29.000 How much water do you think you drank over the week that you were in there?

00:46:33.000 I don't know.

00:46:33.000 They always say it was like just a little bit, but it was a good amount.

00:46:36.000 It was like, I don't know, probably...

00:46:41.000 Probably three liters a day or something.

00:46:43.000 Oh, okay.

00:46:44.000 So it's real water.

00:46:44.000 They say he did tablespoons of water, but no, it was like a normal amount.

00:46:49.000 And then, by the way, I did 44 days with nothing but water.

00:46:52.000 And I did nothing but pure H2O. So it's not even like it had minerals in it.

00:46:57.000 And body was full recovery.

00:46:59.000 And my starvation expert, who's like one of the top guys in the world in London, my doctor at the end thought that I was cheating.

00:47:05.000 So they put me on an IV. So you were using distilled water?

00:47:08.000 It was a company called H2O and their thing is, it's just pure...

00:47:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:47:14.000 Distilled.

00:47:14.000 Right.

00:47:14.000 No minerals.

00:47:15.000 Right.

00:47:16.000 Which is irrelevant, by the way.

00:47:18.000 So I had nothing but pure H2O for 44 days, lost 60 pounds, bone mass index dropped 33%.

00:47:29.000 Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

00:47:30.000 Yeah, no, no, it was bad.

00:47:32.000 No, it wasn't good.

00:47:32.000 Yeah, it wasn't good.

00:47:33.000 But...

00:47:34.000 Doctor thought I was cheating because he's a magician.

00:47:36.000 By the way, my friends that were with me that are magicians and the guy building, they're like, you need to take these vitamins.

00:47:43.000 And they hand me a handful of sugary vitamins.

00:47:46.000 And I'm like, no.

00:47:48.000 It's just because if I'm going to do it, I want to actually do it, right?

00:47:52.000 And if I would have taken those vitamins, I feel like my metabolism wouldn't have gone into starvation mode and I might have had irreversible damage.

00:48:00.000 So the fact that I actually did it, I went into starvation mode and the body protects itself.

00:48:05.000 But what I was saying is the starvation expert that now I have a paper published in the New England Journal of Medicine with him, which I'm pretty proud about, but he didn't believe me.

00:48:15.000 So he put me on an IV and right away the phosphate levels reacted and I almost went into shock.

00:48:19.000 So I almost actually did die when they fed me.

00:48:23.000 So his paper is called the Refeeding Syndrome.

00:48:26.000 They say like after World War II when they rescued the – from the camps, the Jews and everybody was starving in the camps and a lot of soldiers gave them like candy bars and stuff and all of a sudden their systems went into shock and they died from not being refed the right way.

00:48:41.000 So what is the correct way to refeed someone if they haven't eaten?

00:48:44.000 You have to slowly bring them back so that you don't have what happened to me, which is phosphate levels go all crazy.

00:48:50.000 So very small amounts of food.

00:48:52.000 Yeah, but then two days later, somebody sent me a trunk from Harrods full of food in London like a friend.

00:49:00.000 And I was giving it to all the nurses and doctors because I knew I shouldn't eat it and I was trying to do it right.

00:49:05.000 Then like in the middle of the night, I woke up and had like a bag of potato chips and then a bagel with cream cheese and I was wrecked.

00:49:13.000 It was like the most pain.

00:49:14.000 So I also didn't go to the bathroom for a month and a half.

00:49:18.000 What?

00:49:19.000 Think about that.

00:49:21.000 So how long does it take you to recover from one of these things?

00:49:25.000 That one I feel like I never fully recovered from.

00:49:27.000 How so?

00:49:30.000 I don't know.

00:49:30.000 I wouldn't recommend anybody does that.

00:49:32.000 It goes super, super long with no food.

00:49:36.000 When you say you don't think you ever recovered, what do you mean by that?

00:49:39.000 My body always goes like this now.

00:49:41.000 It's always confused when I train.

00:49:43.000 I go up, down really quick, really easy.

00:49:45.000 And it was since that.

00:49:46.000 Because your body freaked out because it went into starvation mode.

00:49:49.000 Yeah, I feel like that.

00:49:50.000 But there's no way to prove that.

00:49:52.000 That's a common thing, though, with people who cut weight for fights.

00:49:55.000 Really?

00:49:56.000 Yeah.

00:49:56.000 They get to a certain point when they have kidney failure.

00:49:59.000 Yeah.

00:50:00.000 And then their body...

00:50:01.000 Exactly.

00:50:01.000 That's what happened to me.

00:50:02.000 And I keep having problems with my kidneys.

00:50:04.000 Yes.

00:50:05.000 Yeah.

00:50:06.000 And I have a spot on my kidney right now.

00:50:08.000 Yeah.

00:50:10.000 Yeah.

00:50:11.000 That's funny.

00:50:12.000 That's a real common one with guys.

00:50:15.000 Daniel Cormier actually had to drop out of the Olympics because of that.

00:50:18.000 I didn't know that.

00:50:19.000 His kidneys failed.

00:50:20.000 Yeah, kidney failure is a big one with fighters.

00:50:23.000 Kidney stones, too, for a lot of guys who cut weight.

00:50:26.000 So that was probably, in your opinion, the one that damaged you the most?

00:50:31.000 Or left the most residual damage?

00:50:32.000 So the most difficult one was the ice, by far.

00:50:37.000 The ice was a monster.

00:50:39.000 And the reason why was because...

00:50:41.000 And now there's also something great about it.

00:50:43.000 So it was a warm November, so the air coming through was like, you know, it happened to be a 68-degree three-day spread, which led to the ice keep dripping the cold on me and it's radiating this way.

00:50:57.000 But I'm also standing up in one spot completely still and you can't sleep because if you fall asleep and you're present to ice, you get frostbite.

00:51:03.000 You have to cut your skin off, right?

00:51:05.000 So I'm staying completely awake the entire time.

00:51:09.000 And it's a difficult situation.

00:51:10.000 On hour 55, exactly, I look back at all of it and my friends knew, my eyes just go out and I'm now hallucinating like you could never ever, no hallucinogenic drug will ever give you those kind of hallucinations.

00:51:26.000 Like what was it?

00:51:28.000 First of all, it's amazing, but it's also when it goes into that nightmare part, it's scary.

00:51:33.000 But there's also that amazing part of it.

00:51:36.000 And if you have people after that stunt, now whenever I hallucinate on stunts, I have friends there that I say I'm going to start hallucinating.

00:51:43.000 Just talk me through it.

00:51:45.000 But so here's when I started realizing that I was hallucinating because you don't know when you are, right?

00:51:50.000 Yeah.

00:51:51.000 And by the way, the one stunt I never did was sleep deprivation.

00:51:54.000 If you remind me, I'll explain that whole thing, but I'll forget.

00:51:57.000 So what happens is when I started realizing it is I need to know what time it is because I'm done at 10 p.m.

00:52:05.000 because it was live on ABC. So I'm like, I need to know how much longer I got to go through this because it's getting tough.

00:52:12.000 By the way, my doorman would come and News or whatever, Fox News, said David Blaine is not really in the ice.

00:52:20.000 They did a special on it, an hour-long special on Fox saying that I was never in the ice and I had a double of me that was in the ice.

00:52:28.000 I was switching up and down with him while eating burgers and reading the news.

00:52:32.000 Fox News did that?

00:52:33.000 No, Fox.

00:52:33.000 Fox, the TV station.

00:52:36.000 But they did a one-hour special that I was never in there.

00:52:39.000 So my doorman...

00:52:40.000 How did they get away with doing that?

00:52:41.000 I don't know.

00:52:41.000 I don't care.

00:52:42.000 But listen, so my doorman who comes to...

00:52:44.000 This is the funny part though.

00:52:46.000 So my doorman that comes to see me, he knows me so well.

00:52:52.000 He was buried alive and he's so nice, right?

00:52:54.000 So he comes to visit me in New York and he walks up to the ice.

00:52:59.000 And he sees me and he's looking at me all weird.

00:53:01.000 I wasn't hallucinating.

00:53:02.000 He's looking at me all weird.

00:53:03.000 Then he leaves.

00:53:04.000 But I go back.

00:53:05.000 I was like, what's up?

00:53:07.000 He's like, are you sure that that was you and I? Could that have been you?

00:53:15.000 I was like, what do you mean, Eddie?

00:53:16.000 He's like, okay, well, it's, you know, so we go on.

00:53:20.000 That's special airs.

00:53:22.000 Now he's convinced that it wasn't me.

00:53:24.000 The special airs while you're still in the ice?

00:53:26.000 No, no, no.

00:53:26.000 That's after.

00:53:27.000 But he already thinks because he doesn't believe it.

00:53:30.000 My friends, my best friends when I was buried alive, they didn't think I was really doing it.

00:53:36.000 They thought it was a trick.

00:53:38.000 So he asked me, was that really you?

00:53:43.000 Because they said that you were a double of yourself and you were switching.

00:53:47.000 And I was like, Eddie, but you looked at me.

00:53:50.000 If I have a twin brother, where is that identical twin brother?

00:53:55.000 Why would I switch up?

00:53:58.000 So back to when I get to 55 hours.

00:54:02.000 So I'm looking around and I need the time.

00:54:04.000 So I go like this.

00:54:06.000 What time is it?

00:54:07.000 And the guy goes...

00:54:10.000 4.02?

00:54:13.000 Yeah, so he shows me 4.02.

00:54:15.000 So I'm like, okay, that means we have another six hours or whatever it is, right?

00:54:19.000 By the way, my time estimation is...

00:54:21.000 So I'm like, okay, wait.

00:54:24.000 It might have been 2.02.

00:54:25.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:54:27.000 And I wait, and it's hard.

00:54:29.000 I'm like, things are moving.

00:54:31.000 Everything's weird.

00:54:32.000 Spiders are walking up.

00:54:33.000 People are like sitting in the ice.

00:54:35.000 I'm waiting, waiting.

00:54:37.000 Voices are talking to me that I'm talking back to, right?

00:54:40.000 But I'm waiting, and I'm waiting.

00:54:41.000 And I wait for like a few hours before I ask anybody the time again.

00:54:47.000 And I see somebody, and I'm like...

00:54:50.000 And the guy goes...

00:54:55.000 4-0-3.

00:54:57.000 Oh, no.

00:54:59.000 And that's when it all crashed out.

00:55:01.000 It was like when that connection and then the hallucinations were just rampant and my eyes were all crazy when the chainsaw was coming through.

00:55:09.000 I tried to grab it.

00:55:11.000 Yeah, see?

00:55:13.000 Look at that.

00:55:13.000 Oh, you're gone.

00:55:15.000 But now that I've learned that, sleep deprivation is one of the most amazing ways, if it's controlled, to go to another place.

00:55:27.000 I've heard that, but I want to get to that.

00:55:30.000 Before we get to that, while you're in there, what are you doing to occupy your mind?

00:55:35.000 Did you have...

00:55:38.000 Were you using meditation?

00:55:39.000 Were you just thinking?

00:55:40.000 Were you just winging it?

00:55:42.000 Okay, so for some of them, what I do a big...

00:55:45.000 First of all, yeah, a lot of things you get to...

00:55:48.000 You have free time to think.

00:55:49.000 Like there's no phones, no distractions aside from the physical...

00:55:53.000 But the one thing that I use with everything is kind of like a breakdown of numbers.

00:55:58.000 I'm like, okay, I have this much.

00:55:59.000 I have to get to this point.

00:56:01.000 Then when I get to this point, even when I run on a treadmill, I'm like, okay, I have to get to this point, which means let me get to the halfway point and I'll consider that...

00:56:07.000 When I'm holding my breath, I do the same thing.

00:56:09.000 Like, okay, I need to get to 15 minutes, so let me get to 7, and I'll start at 7. Then at 7, I'm like, okay, I'm at 7 left.

00:56:16.000 I have to get to another 3.5, then 3.5.

00:56:18.000 And then what I always do is whenever I'm training, I always go past it, so it's the same thing.

00:56:23.000 So, like, when I'm running a treadmill, I'm like, if I have to do, let's say, like, you know...

00:56:27.000 3.1, whatever it is, I set that as my target, but then I always go another half a mile past it.

00:56:34.000 You can't quit before because then you'll be in the mindset that, okay, I can stop before.

00:56:38.000 So anything that I do, I use numbers to get there.

00:56:41.000 I get halfway, and then I push the goal further every single time, no matter what.

00:56:46.000 So it's a mathematical system, ironically.

00:56:48.000 So you don't necessarily have any sort of meditative techniques.

00:56:53.000 You're just concentrating on the numbers.

00:56:55.000 Meditation for breath-holding all the time.

00:56:57.000 Right.

00:56:57.000 Every time I do a breath-holding, it's all meditation.

00:56:59.000 No, the ice was kind of...

00:57:01.000 There was like a breathing thing, and I didn't really know much about it back then, but I was more like fighting it.

00:57:06.000 What is it like on your ankles or your knees and your back?

00:57:09.000 Everything swells up like edema really bad and all that stuff, and the pain is excruciating and unbearable.

00:57:14.000 But yeah, I mean, you're waiting.

00:57:16.000 And you didn't have any residual effects of that?

00:57:19.000 Just my ankles and legs were really swollen.

00:57:22.000 Just for a few days or so?

00:57:23.000 Longer than that, but yeah.

00:57:25.000 Yeah.

00:57:26.000 Now, has anybody ever tried to break that?

00:57:29.000 I don't know.

00:57:30.000 I hope not.

00:57:31.000 Not because I don't care about how long.

00:57:33.000 I just don't want anybody to hurt themselves.

00:57:34.000 But I would imagine someone does something so high profile like you did that, that people would be like, hmm, I'm going to try that.

00:57:41.000 I mean, I think it's too weird.

00:57:42.000 So people aren't really like, oh, I want to do that.

00:57:44.000 But there's billions of people.

00:57:46.000 I would imagine that someone would step in and try to...

00:57:48.000 Emulate that.

00:57:50.000 I pray not, and that's why I pray my daughter never becomes a magician, even though she's so amazing at it.

00:57:56.000 Because if she started doing these things, if she's going to bump her knee, I'm like, I have a heart attack. 0.84

00:58:01.000 That's the problem with being a parent, right?

00:58:03.000 Yeah.

00:58:04.000 The things that make you amazing are your ability to overcome adversity, and then you shelter your children from adversity.

00:58:12.000 It's all my favorite people.

00:58:14.000 They all came from a very tumultuous childhood.

00:58:17.000 They all came from turmoil, and no one wants that for their child.

00:58:21.000 You want to protect your children.

00:58:23.000 It's weird.

00:58:24.000 It's very weird. 0.91

00:58:25.000 So what other ones have you done where, like, while you were doing it, you were thinking, what the fuck have I done? 0.95

00:58:40.000 Because you're committed. 0.96

00:58:41.000 There was one.

00:58:43.000 Don't pull this one up.

00:58:45.000 Don't pull this one up.

00:58:46.000 It was called The Dive of Death.

00:58:48.000 And I started to get cocky.

00:58:50.000 I'd done like the thing in London.

00:58:52.000 I'd done like the water tank.

00:58:54.000 So I started to get too cocky, right?

00:58:57.000 I didn't have time and ABC wanted to show really quick.

00:59:00.000 I was like, okay, I'm going to go upside down for 60 hours, three days, whatever, right?

00:59:05.000 I was going to be upside down.

00:59:06.000 And then some guy was in a parachute upside down on a tree in Italy, and he was in the hospital because he was three days upside down in the tree.

00:59:15.000 And I was trying to speak to him, but he was like not...

00:59:19.000 Didn't want to talk at all, and then they were like, his situation's really bad.

00:59:23.000 So it kind of like set the tone before I did the thing.

00:59:25.000 The situation's really bad.

00:59:26.000 From being upside down for that long.

00:59:28.000 What happened to him?

00:59:29.000 I think the blood...

00:59:31.000 I think it does...

00:59:32.000 I don't know, because I didn't get to ask.

00:59:35.000 They wouldn't tell me.

00:59:36.000 But he wouldn't also engage in a...

00:59:38.000 It was bad.

00:59:40.000 That I know.

00:59:41.000 In the news, it was bad.

00:59:44.000 I don't know what the permanent repercussion is.

00:59:46.000 But so when I did this thing upside down in New York, I didn't practice it.

00:59:50.000 I thought I could just wing it.

00:59:52.000 My stunt guy who taught me to jump off the pole, he's like, you can never ever just go wing something and not dial it in and rehearse and figure it out.

01:00:00.000 You can't just go do it.

01:00:01.000 You can't hope for luck.

01:00:03.000 And that was the first one ever and last one that I was like, okay, let me just hope that I can do this.

01:00:09.000 As soon as I went upside down, remember I said you could never prepare for certain things?

01:00:13.000 Yeah.

01:00:13.000 I had that catheter hooked up, and the first time I peed, it just went upside down all over me, so this way.

01:00:19.000 And I was like, I'm done.

01:00:20.000 So the whole stunt went down over there.

01:00:22.000 That was a great learning lesson, because I learned you never just dial it in.

01:00:27.000 Did you make it through that one?

01:00:29.000 Yes, but it was terrible. 0.99

01:00:30.000 It was a garbage stunt. 0.90

01:00:32.000 But you were asking me, like, what things? 0.99

01:00:34.000 So that was one that was like, ugh.

01:00:36.000 But all of the others, they were amazing.

01:00:39.000 The team, working with the best people, all of it.

01:00:42.000 And this one is the most amazing.

01:00:44.000 Like, I have a team that's...

01:00:46.000 The one you're doing right now?

01:00:47.000 I have the most amazing...

01:00:50.000 I've never been able to have a team like this.

01:00:52.000 This is the balloon one.

01:00:53.000 Yes.

01:00:54.000 Okay, explain this.

01:00:55.000 Okay, so I went to YouTube with Crazy Idea, who, by the way, this is YouTube, and they've been a blessing beyond, beyond.

01:01:03.000 So I'm like, okay, here's what I want to do.

01:01:05.000 Like, I want to grab a bunch of balloons and go floating up into the sky and disappear.

01:01:09.000 Like, okay, great.

01:01:10.000 Okay, sure.

01:01:11.000 So now I needed to ascend.

01:01:13.000 This is all hypothetical.

01:01:14.000 I'm not like a skydiver that has 10,000 or 20,000 jumps.

01:01:18.000 I'm not a balloon pilot.

01:01:20.000 I have no experience in any of this stuff.

01:01:22.000 I just know that I want to do this and I've wanted to do it forever.

01:01:24.000 But I had drawings of it made 15 years ago.

01:01:30.000 Now you have to get for real.

01:01:31.000 So there is a guy that flies balloons and there's a guy like Longchair Larry that went up on balloons with like a lawn chair and a bunch of beer.

01:01:38.000 That was his ballast and he like popped balloons with a gun.

01:01:41.000 So there are examples.

01:01:44.000 So it's not like a complete hypothetical.

01:01:46.000 This one has like, okay, so what if I could take the balloons, that idea, and just have the innocent image of a kid like we all dream of just holding the balloons and drifting up and into the sky?

01:01:57.000 Here, I'll show you a picture of it.

01:02:00.000 What's that one from?

01:02:02.000 From their website.

01:02:04.000 From whose website is that, Jamie?

01:02:06.000 The balloon company.

01:02:07.000 Right, so that's my balloons.

01:02:11.000 Is that you up there?

01:02:12.000 Yeah, we did short flights, not big in public.

01:02:17.000 We kept it small.

01:02:18.000 Can I show these to Jamie?

01:02:21.000 No?

01:02:22.000 I don't know.

01:02:24.000 Yeah, to him.

01:02:25.000 I can show one.

01:02:26.000 Can you show it to the people?

01:02:28.000 I'm not sure.

01:02:28.000 All right, then don't.

01:02:29.000 Wait, that's my balloons.

01:02:30.000 Yeah.

01:02:31.000 Oh, well, that's on, but that's the end of it.

01:02:34.000 It's not him doing it yet.

01:02:34.000 It's just a picture of the balloons.

01:02:35.000 Right.

01:02:35.000 So this is...

01:02:36.000 But I think maybe, maybe not.

01:02:39.000 But anyway, so...

01:02:42.000 Okay, so it starts with just the idea of that.

01:02:45.000 But now, I have to go get a hot air balloon pilot license.

01:02:49.000 So I go meet with the best hot air balloon pilot instructor and also flyer.

01:02:54.000 But isn't that the different situation than a hot air balloon because you don't have the ability to control...

01:02:59.000 You have to first get your hot air balloon pilot license.

01:03:02.000 So you have to learn how to fly and land a balloon, which is amazing, right?

01:03:05.000 And then you have to take that written test.

01:03:07.000 And I don't have time because I'm trying to do so much.

01:03:10.000 So I had to cram study the whole written test in eight hours with a guy helping me.

01:03:16.000 I studied the whole thing, went to the airport, took the test, got that.

01:03:19.000 Then you need to go get your gas restriction lifted, which means because – and very few people even ever bothered to do this because who's flying hydrogen or helium nowadays?

01:03:28.000 So I went and met this guy, Bert Padelt, who's the best gas balloonist in the world.

01:03:33.000 He's the one that built around the world in 80 days.

01:03:35.000 He's built every balloon that's done the longest flights and you fly.

01:03:38.000 Now, a hot air balloon, you're like – right?

01:03:42.000 You have to control it and it's – helium and hydrogen, you're just part of the wind.

01:03:48.000 You're literally just floating away and it'll keep going up to 84,000 feet until they pop there.

01:03:55.000 Like, you are just floating.

01:03:58.000 I can't explain that feeling of floating.

01:04:02.000 Anyway, so I had to go learn how to fly and land hydrogen balloons and use hydrogen because helium is more expensive and stuff like that.

01:04:09.000 Now, we have to go test the whole rig.

01:04:12.000 So now, And at the same time, I have to also try to get as close to 500 jumps out of an airplane because I need to be really comfortable in the air.

01:04:21.000 If I have to jump out and land, I need to land safely.

01:04:24.000 Right.

01:04:24.000 And when you're up at 25 plus thousand feet, you don't know where you are.

01:04:28.000 Right.

01:04:31.000 By the way, did you see the video I made for you?

01:04:35.000 You didn't see it?

01:04:36.000 No.

01:04:36.000 You made a video for me?

01:04:37.000 Yeah, because when you did the thing with Post, and Post was like, he's not real, and you were defending me, I was like, um...

01:04:45.000 Hold on, I made a video.

01:04:47.000 I sent it to Matt.

01:04:48.000 I texted it to him.

01:04:49.000 I didn't get a video.

01:04:50.000 He didn't show it to you?

01:04:50.000 Did you get a video?

01:04:51.000 No.

01:04:51.000 Hold on.

01:04:52.000 I may do this video.

01:04:53.000 So this is me yelling from the plane.

01:04:55.000 And by the way, this is after the wingsuit guys jump out of the airplane.

01:04:59.000 So remember, I'm also crushing lots of jumps really fast.

01:05:03.000 This is when I ran into a fence and almost killed myself.

01:05:06.000 And Luke, who's the best in the world that has 25,000 more jumps, jumped from 25,000 feet without a parachute and landed in a net.

01:05:15.000 I saw that.

01:05:15.000 Yeah.

01:05:15.000 So he's the guy coaching me.

01:05:17.000 So he's the one filming this.

01:05:18.000 And he landed at the state troopers patrol thing because we were so far lost.

01:05:23.000 And I ended up trying to make it back, almost hitting the trees really, really close, and then crashing into a fence.

01:05:30.000 My legs were all bloodied up, ripped through the thing, flipped over, landed.

01:05:34.000 I was fine.

01:05:34.000 That was recent.

01:05:35.000 And the reason why is because I was making you this video.

01:05:39.000 A complete truth.

01:05:40.000 But I'm going to explain it to you.

01:05:41.000 To make the video, I had to wait until the wingsuits were out of the plane because they're last, right?

01:05:47.000 But that means – and by the way, the conditions, you'll see what they were like in a second.

01:05:51.000 So the plane is moving really, really far away, right?

01:05:54.000 Because it's still going.

01:05:56.000 That means the drop zone is way over there.

01:05:58.000 Right.

01:05:58.000 And I made the video and it was longer than I said it was going to be.

01:06:01.000 And then when we jump, we're like lost in the clouds.

01:06:04.000 And I see the only hole.

01:06:05.000 So I fly through the hole.

01:06:07.000 And now because I flew through that hole, we're so far away from everything.

01:06:12.000 And I should have followed Luke and went to the state patrol thing.

01:06:15.000 But I was like, no, I'm going to make it just back.

01:06:18.000 But so here's the video I made you, though.

01:06:20.000 Can we play it for other people?

01:06:22.000 Why don't you airdrop it to Jamie?

01:06:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:06:26.000 Okay.

01:06:28.000 Hold on.

01:06:28.000 So let me airdrop.

01:06:32.000 Isn't that funny though?

01:06:33.000 It's pretty wild.

01:06:36.000 I'm just bummed out that I didn't get this before.

01:06:38.000 Oh, well, yeah.

01:06:41.000 So I was going to like post it or something and I asked him if I should.

01:06:44.000 And he's like, well, wait, because maybe he'll just do the show.

01:06:47.000 So I think that's why he didn't maybe or something.

01:06:50.000 Like, I don't know.

01:06:52.000 Hold on.

01:06:54.000 Maybe it got lost in the email or something.

01:06:56.000 It might have gotten to one of those.

01:06:58.000 The email dumps get pretty big sometimes.

01:07:02.000 The point where I can't keep up.

01:07:03.000 Is it Young James?

01:07:05.000 Young Jamie.

01:07:07.000 Young James.

01:07:10.000 Okay, so that's that one.

01:07:11.000 But then I'm going to show you the rest of the shot, but you might have to scroll through it to get to it.

01:07:17.000 But by the way, it's the most amazing.

01:07:19.000 So I'll show you the rest of that shot, and then you'll see where he landed and where I landed.

01:07:24.000 So I'm going to send you first the pretty version of it.

01:07:27.000 You guys can cut through or whatever, right?

01:07:30.000 Sure.

01:07:30.000 So I'm going to edit.

01:07:32.000 I'm going to just send you the full, and then you'll look through.

01:07:36.000 So here's another one.

01:07:41.000 When is this one supposed to be?

01:07:43.000 In two weeks.

01:07:44.000 In two weeks.

01:07:45.000 Yeah.

01:07:45.000 And do you have to take into consideration the wind, like, with the current temperature?

01:07:50.000 Oh, yeah.

01:07:51.000 And that's why we can't, like, confirm a location because winds determine everything.

01:07:55.000 So even though now I'm at, like, you know, almost 400 jumps, the winds still decide where you go.

01:08:03.000 Oh, here.

01:08:04.000 All right, here we go.

01:08:06.000 Did you get that other?

01:08:07.000 I've only got one.

01:08:08.000 Okay.

01:08:09.000 Just want to make sure.

01:08:09.000 Is this the one you want me to play?

01:08:10.000 Well, that's the first one.

01:08:12.000 So I can do this airdrop comeback?

01:08:14.000 Sure.

01:08:15.000 Okay.

01:08:16.000 Okay, check this out.

01:08:17.000 Joe Rogan, the breath-holding is for real.

01:08:21.000 And if you want to see a little bit about it, watch my last YouTube video.

01:08:26.000 But Joe, I hope to come show you in person because that might actually save my life.

01:08:37.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:08:38.000 Okay, but so you see the clouds.

01:08:40.000 Now, hold on.

01:08:41.000 This one's going to come.

01:08:42.000 So you're hanging on to a plane.

01:08:44.000 How high are you there?

01:08:45.000 No, that was just, I don't know, like 13,000 or something.

01:08:48.000 Oh, nothing.

01:08:49.000 No, but I went to 25,000.

01:08:52.000 I know.

01:08:52.000 I remember you telling me.

01:08:53.000 Yeah.

01:08:53.000 Yeah, but still.

01:08:55.000 You're still 13,000 feet off the air hanging on to a plane and you jump off.

01:08:59.000 Maybe it's another one.

01:09:00.000 Maybe it's this one.

01:09:02.000 It's hilarious that you're like, oh, it's only 13,000 feet hanging on to the wing of a plane that I let go on video.

01:09:11.000 I know, but you need to see.

01:09:13.000 I can't play it here, though, right?

01:09:15.000 And show you like this.

01:09:16.000 We have to airdrop because it's going slow.

01:09:17.000 Airdrop is better because it's going slow.

01:09:19.000 Well, I just want to send this one that shows how spectacular, but I could just send this one that's not as big, which explains what's going on.

01:09:27.000 So hold on.

01:09:28.000 Which one?

01:09:28.000 Because there's three Young James.

01:09:30.000 The MacBook Pro.

01:09:31.000 Young Jamie.

01:09:32.000 But there's three Mbp.

01:09:34.000 It doesn't matter.

01:09:34.000 Just click one.

01:09:35.000 It should work.

01:09:36.000 Now when you decide to do something like this, do you get an inspiration and then you consult people to see if it's feasible?

01:09:46.000 So that's what I was like.

01:09:48.000 So what I was saying is I come up with the idea and then I find a guy.

01:09:52.000 His name is Jonathan Trapp.

01:09:53.000 He's the one that tried to cross the Atlantic with helium-filled balloons.

01:09:56.000 But I mean, it's like a full system.

01:09:59.000 He has a basket.

01:10:00.000 So it's like a hot air balloon system.

01:10:03.000 So nobody's ever done it where they just float where their bodies are the basket.

01:10:08.000 You know what I mean?

01:10:09.000 So he had the whole system and then he came and tested it out and I was like, could I go try it like this?

01:10:13.000 And he's like, no, we're not ready. 0.90

01:10:15.000 You'll kill yourself or whatever.

01:10:17.000 And you're hanging on to the rope? 0.99

01:10:18.000 Yeah, but I'm going to make sure that...

01:10:20.000 I'm not going to have a parachute on, and I'll have a system so I'm completely secure, so I'm not going to fall off.

01:10:26.000 But I'm not going to wear the parachute because I don't want to be...

01:10:30.000 I want it to look like a kid just holding on to balloons.

01:10:33.000 So that visual is the important part.

01:10:35.000 So the parachute's up in the balloons.

01:10:37.000 But once I get above like a...

01:10:41.000 A thousand feet or so.

01:10:42.000 I'm going to put the parachute on in the air.

01:10:44.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:10:45.000 So you're going to put the parachute on while you're up there.

01:10:47.000 Yeah, and then I want to see how high I can go.

01:10:51.000 See?

01:10:53.000 How do you think you can go?

01:10:57.000 Well, so the highest thing on Earth is Mount Everest.

01:11:01.000 Right.

01:11:01.000 So that's kind of my goal, but I have to be careful because if you don't come back down, you're dead.

01:11:10.000 So if you can't get down from there, that zone is like the death zone.

01:11:15.000 So from like 25,000 to 30,000 is very, very dangerous.

01:11:20.000 You can black out like this.

01:11:21.000 So I'm going to do a couple more hypoxic tests and see if I'm right.

01:11:25.000 I'll have emergency stuff up there like oxygen if I need it, but I don't want to use it up there in the balloons.

01:11:34.000 Do your loved ones panic when you start plotting things like this?

01:11:40.000 My daughter asks questions.

01:11:42.000 How old is she? 0.98

01:11:43.000 Nine.

01:11:43.000 And she asks great questions.

01:11:45.000 And the tail number of the plate is for me and her.

01:11:48.000 So it's N for number, but nine for her age, 47 for my age, and then DB for me and her.

01:11:54.000 We're both Dessa and David Blaine.

01:11:57.000 Which is the balloon that has...

01:11:59.000 This has to be a registered aircraft.

01:12:02.000 So we had to get it registered.

01:12:03.000 We had to fly it up.

01:12:04.000 We had to prove that it's completely safe.

01:12:06.000 We had to land it with nobody on it so the body...

01:12:10.000 One time that I went wasn't me.

01:12:12.000 It was sand that weighed exactly what I weighed.

01:12:14.000 We had to remote dump the sand.

01:12:16.000 We had to use squibs to remote pop the balloons, fly it over. 0.95

01:12:20.000 And this is at 22,000 feet.

01:12:23.000 And squibs, what is controlling it?

01:12:25.000 But is it radio?

01:12:26.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:12:28.000 I have the whole team helping me that did like Alan Eustace when he jumped and Felix Baumgartner when he jumped from the edge of space.

01:12:33.000 So we have Don Day, the best meteorologist.

01:12:36.000 Do they have to weigh you before you get on?

01:12:38.000 Oh yeah, it's precision.

01:12:40.000 It's precision.

01:12:40.000 And then, so we had to fly it all the way up to 22,000 feet as proof that this aircraft is actually completely doable.

01:12:48.000 And then remote land it exactly where Don Day predicted we were going to land it.

01:12:52.000 And we've done that multiple times.

01:12:54.000 We've flown it.

01:12:55.000 We've deployed the imitation.

01:12:58.000 I've flown it.

01:12:59.000 There's a massive amount of time involved in constructing one of these things and orchestrating it.

01:13:04.000 Time and team.

01:13:06.000 And team is everything.

01:13:08.000 So it'd be like you when you have like the best trainers.

01:13:11.000 If you had like your...

01:13:14.000 Five best in the world, like, tweaking you for fights like that.

01:13:17.000 So when you plan on doing something like this, did you bring this up to these folks?

01:13:23.000 These are the people that you're doing it with.

01:13:25.000 These are the people that you brought it up to the first time.

01:13:27.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:13:28.000 Nobody said, get the fuck out of here with this? 0.91

01:13:29.000 Nope.

01:13:30.000 Went straight to YouTube, and I was like, I have this idea.

01:13:32.000 So you went to these guys, and did they hesitate at all?

01:13:35.000 No.

01:13:36.000 They're amazing.

01:13:37.000 Or crazy.

01:13:38.000 That's one of the...

01:13:39.000 Right.

01:13:40.000 It is also crazy because it is just a hypothetical idea that's insane.

01:13:44.000 That's true.

01:13:45.000 And they did let me like – but there were stages.

01:13:47.000 I had to prove each step.

01:13:48.000 So I had to prove that number one, the balloon is doable.

01:13:52.000 Number two, I'm not going to hopefully kill myself.

01:13:54.000 Number three, I can actually get the – oh, and then for the skydives, by the way, because I had to get 500 jumps really quick.

01:14:01.000 And this is all during the last year, right?

01:14:03.000 Mm-hmm.

01:14:04.000 So insurance wouldn't cover that.

01:14:06.000 I mean, they would cover it, but it's not affordable.

01:14:08.000 So I had to do almost 500, 400 jumps or so with no insurance.

01:14:13.000 You know what I mean?

01:14:13.000 And so that's a whole separate thing that's not related.

01:14:16.000 So I had to go do them for my own as fun and do everything through my own.

01:14:22.000 You see what I mean?

01:14:22.000 So it's crazy.

01:14:24.000 It's all nuts.

01:14:25.000 And because you think of Sky, you think like, oh, you have the best coach.

01:14:28.000 It's fine.

01:14:28.000 But there's still, like, when you're trying to do 15 jumps a day, it's like you can...

01:14:34.000 Do what I did, which is try to avoid hitting an airplane in a hangar and turn too low and come whacking down.

01:14:39.000 And when did you come up with this idea?

01:14:43.000 I mean, I think it was like inspired when I was a kid.

01:14:46.000 I think like the idea of like the little boy drifting in a balloon.

01:14:49.000 So I think it was like, but I never really thought of it as a reality.

01:14:53.000 But then 15 years ago or so I had drawings made of it.

01:14:56.000 So I started having, I'll show you the drawings.

01:14:58.000 I can't open it on there or whatever.

01:15:00.000 So when did you put it into motion?

01:15:03.000 It was never even possible until YouTube said, okay, we'll back this.

01:15:07.000 Because the idea is like all of my other stunts, there's like the budget's pretty very, you know, you couldn't afford to do something like this.

01:15:14.000 This is to build, test the flight, build an actual aircraft, fly it, land it, get all the jumps, learn how to do everything, get all the skill set.

01:15:23.000 But that's the first drawing.

01:15:26.000 Oh, wow.

01:15:27.000 Yeah.

01:15:28.000 So you drew this when you were...

01:15:30.000 I didn't draw it.

01:15:31.000 Oh, someone else did.

01:15:32.000 Yeah, Mark Stutzman, who's an amazing artist that did my poster for this thing, which I'll show you.

01:15:36.000 Can I send this to Jamie?

01:15:37.000 Yeah, it's not working, but you can try.

01:15:39.000 Airdrop's not working?

01:15:41.000 I noticed something weird was happening when he was trying to do it.

01:15:43.000 But maybe the picture will go.

01:15:46.000 If not, I can restart the phone and maybe it'll work.

01:15:52.000 Was it showing up for you, Jamie?

01:15:54.000 No, right?

01:15:55.000 Let me restart the phone.

01:15:56.000 There's a lot of...

01:15:57.000 Okay, now it says it's waiting.

01:16:01.000 There's like so many MacBook Pros.

01:16:02.000 You got it?

01:16:03.000 Yeah, there's three.

01:16:04.000 Oh, it went?

01:16:04.000 Yeah, that one went through.

01:16:06.000 Okay, then I'll also send...

01:16:07.000 Oh, but wait, so should I also show you the poster that I had made?

01:16:10.000 Sure.

01:16:10.000 Okay.

01:16:13.000 So, you come to YouTube.

01:16:15.000 Powerful YouTube.

01:16:16.000 They come up with this idea.

01:16:18.000 They're just amazing.

01:16:20.000 That's the original, but this is the latest one.

01:16:24.000 Did you send that one to him too?

01:16:28.000 I'll send it to you, Jeremy.

01:16:31.000 It's coming through right now, supposedly.

01:16:34.000 It's like I have to accept them for some reason.

01:16:37.000 It doesn't just go.

01:16:39.000 Is it showing up for you?

01:16:41.000 No?

01:16:42.000 I think I should restart the phone because those videos, too, I want to send.

01:16:46.000 There it goes.

01:16:46.000 Okay.

01:16:47.000 How did you get it to go, though?

01:16:48.000 Which one did you press?

01:16:50.000 I don't know.

01:16:50.000 There's so many of them.

01:16:51.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:16:53.000 Your phone is being monitored by the government.

01:16:55.000 They're cloning all the text messages.

01:16:57.000 Hold on.

01:16:58.000 I want to try to send this video so I can explain making your video, if that's possible.

01:17:07.000 Oh, now it's preparing it, so now it might work.

01:17:10.000 Okay, beautiful.

01:17:12.000 Now it's going through?

01:17:12.000 You have it coming right now?

01:17:15.000 Because it says it's converting, so it might be coming.

01:17:18.000 We're waiting for an accept on this, so...

01:17:20.000 Okay.

01:17:21.000 As soon as I get that.

01:17:22.000 So, you bring this to YouTube.

01:17:25.000 How long ago was it?

01:17:26.000 Uh...

01:17:28.000 Like a year and a half ago or something like that?

01:17:31.000 They say, yay, let's do it. 0.99

01:17:32.000 We're fucking crazy. 1.00

01:17:34.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:17:34.000 And also, it's probably going to have 100 million people watch it, so it seems like a good idea. 0.99

01:17:39.000 I don't know.

01:17:39.000 I don't know about that.

01:17:40.000 Oh, I do.

01:17:41.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:17:42.000 You're going to float around in a fucking balloon hanging on? 0.99

01:17:45.000 A lot of people are going to watch it, man. 1.00

01:17:46.000 I don't know if that's true.

01:17:48.000 I'll bet on it.

01:17:49.000 But this one, by far, is my favorite that I've ever done.

01:17:53.000 It's the most visual, the most colorful.

01:17:55.000 It's the first one that I've ever done where my friends are like, I want to do that.

01:18:00.000 They're not like, why do you do that?

01:18:02.000 You know what I mean?

01:18:03.000 You're holding on.

01:18:04.000 But you know, all the other stunts I do, people are like, it's great that you're doing it, but that's crazy.

01:18:09.000 Or why are you doing it?

01:18:10.000 This one, they're like, I want to ride the balloons.

01:18:13.000 Yeah.

01:18:14.000 Because it's such a childhood sort of...

01:18:16.000 So it'll be like that.

01:18:19.000 Wow, that's pretty cool.

01:18:20.000 So it'll look just like that.

01:18:22.000 How is it?

01:18:23.000 Are you harnessed?

01:18:25.000 Yeah, it'll be like a little thing that connects at my wrist, which like the way the aerialists have a connection.

01:18:31.000 And then it's connected to your body, your torso somehow?

01:18:34.000 Yeah, it'll be connected somewhat. 0.95

01:18:36.000 Through your crotch? 0.99

01:18:36.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:18:37.000 Yeah, hopefully.

01:18:38.000 It's a nightmare.

01:18:39.000 Something.

01:18:39.000 Yeah, because when you get up to like minus, you know, 20 degrees or whatever, you'll be non-functional up there.

01:18:46.000 So you can't just rely.

01:18:48.000 Well, you can't really rely on your hand anyway after a certain point.

01:18:51.000 No, no, no.

01:18:52.000 If I had to do this up to like, you know, 2,000 to 3,000 feet, I could.

01:18:57.000 Holding on.

01:18:58.000 Yeah, you can ascend.

01:18:59.000 You can also do what You know, just put something around your foot, like the wires could come down.

01:19:04.000 Okay, so something around your foot would be just to take some of the weight off of it.

01:19:07.000 Just to help.

01:19:07.000 Yeah, so it's doable.

01:19:09.000 But how long can you actually hang, though?

01:19:13.000 It's really hard to hang for more than a couple of minutes.

01:19:16.000 It's hard to hang for more than a minute.

01:19:18.000 I think the record is like two minutes.

01:19:20.000 What?

01:19:21.000 With one hand, you mean?

01:19:22.000 Yeah, with one hand.

01:19:23.000 Oh, okay.

01:19:23.000 But this has to look like the one-handed image of a person floating.

01:19:28.000 It has to be exact.

01:19:30.000 Right.

01:19:30.000 You'd have to have some freaky forearms, Popeye.

01:19:33.000 Yeah.

01:19:33.000 So I'll have assistants built, so I won't have a parachute or any of that stuff.

01:19:38.000 That'll be above me, so it'll look really clean, but I'll be supported.

01:19:41.000 Now, if there's a balloon failure or something like that, obviously I'm in trouble.

01:19:47.000 Obviously.

01:19:48.000 But once I get the parachute on, once I get to 5,000 feet, then we know, okay, he's not going to die.

01:19:54.000 He has a parachute on.

01:19:55.000 I can get away.

01:19:56.000 And now the big challenge is how high can you go?

01:20:01.000 So, how are you going to know?

01:20:03.000 Do you have an altimeter on the...

01:20:05.000 I'll have an altimeter, but I'm also going to have a communication.

01:20:09.000 I have full everything.

01:20:11.000 So I'm going to have cameras with me.

01:20:13.000 Are you using a watch for the altimeter?

01:20:15.000 Or what are you using to...

01:20:16.000 Well, I'm using this one called Dakunu right now, but it's big.

01:20:19.000 No, but I've been jumping with Suunto's and things just to check... 0.91

01:20:24.000 How accurate they are.

01:20:25.000 And they're not bad.

01:20:26.000 They're like off by like 200 feet or something like that.

01:20:29.000 But on the landing, you don't want to be off.

01:20:31.000 Especially if you're like me, you only have 400 jumps, not even, right?

01:20:36.000 And you're landing in dicey areas because you don't know where you are, right?

01:20:41.000 A gust of wind can throw you here or there.

01:20:43.000 Yeah, anything.

01:20:44.000 But you also have to, like, not hit a power line or a building or an obstacle or anything, wherever you are, right?

01:20:49.000 If you come down into a mountain, you're going to whack into that.

01:20:52.000 It looks flat from here, but if you didn't adjust, you're going to come in hard and that's it.

01:20:56.000 You'll eat it, right?

01:20:57.000 If you hit a power line, you're dead.

01:20:59.000 So, yeah, those types of things we have to, like...

01:21:02.000 And which is why, when I'm controlling the balloons and going up and up and up and up and up...

01:21:10.000 I'm going to hopefully be five.

01:21:13.000 Hopefully.

01:21:14.000 You're scaring the shit out of me already.

01:21:15.000 So at 5,000 feet, how do you get the parachute?

01:21:19.000 It's up there in the balloons and I'm going to pull it down.

01:21:22.000 It's on like a fishing wire thing.

01:21:24.000 I pull it down and then I put it on.

01:21:26.000 That's the only like really difficult thing.

01:21:29.000 Have you done this already?

01:21:30.000 You've practiced that aspect of it?

01:21:32.000 I've practiced it and that's like really scary to everybody around.

01:21:35.000 Oh, yeah.

01:21:35.000 They're asking me, why won't I just wear the thing?

01:21:38.000 Like, everybody.

01:21:38.000 Yeah.

01:21:39.000 They're like, you have to wear it.

01:21:42.000 And you don't want to wear it.

01:21:43.000 And my brother's really obsessed with it.

01:21:45.000 My daughter's new question is, how come you're not wearing the parachute?

01:21:47.000 But I'm telling her, it's fine.

01:21:51.000 But have you done this transition yet, where you go from floating to putting the parachute on?

01:21:56.000 No, that'll be done live the first time.

01:21:59.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:22:00.000 This whole thing will be done the first time live, and I've never done it in completion.

01:22:04.000 I've done all the elements of it.

01:22:06.000 So I've done the jumps, I've done the balloon flights, I've flown the rig, but I've never put it all together.

01:22:11.000 That's all going to happen for the first time live on YouTube.

01:22:16.000 Oh, my God.

01:22:18.000 And so once you get the vest on, once you get the parachute on, then the goal is to see how high you can get up.

01:22:25.000 Yeah, that's the part that I'm obsessed with.

01:22:27.000 When you get to the area of 30,000 plus feet...

01:22:29.000 No, no, you can't cross there.

01:22:31.000 I mean, I just want to get...

01:22:32.000 The goal is if I get up to like...

01:22:37.000 25,000 feet, I'm excited.

01:22:39.000 Okay.

01:22:39.000 Because that's where the eyes...

01:22:40.000 I want to disappear.

01:22:41.000 Like, I actually want the visual to be that I disappear into the sky.

01:22:47.000 Okay.

01:22:47.000 So you get up to 25,000 feet.

01:22:49.000 But I'm not going to kill myself doing it.

01:22:50.000 I hope not.

01:22:51.000 I won't.

01:22:52.000 Okay.

01:22:53.000 I believe you.

01:22:53.000 But this one is different than the ice.

01:22:55.000 I'm going to have the O2 things.

01:22:56.000 By the way, you can't send the O2 pulse oximeter signals down, so they won't know if I'm hypoxic.

01:23:02.000 But I'm going to have the O2 monitors in my pocket.

01:23:04.000 I'm going to put them on.

01:23:05.000 I'm going to show them to the camera.

01:23:07.000 They can still communicate with you?

01:23:08.000 Yeah.

01:23:08.000 Now, if they can't, that's a big issue.

01:23:11.000 So if communication fails, then this is, for me...

01:23:14.000 Communication is done through what?

01:23:16.000 R.F., this incredible guy that builds all of the communication for every skydiving stunt.

01:23:23.000 The same way that a plane can communicate with the ground?

01:23:26.000 Yeah.

01:23:27.000 And I have a transponder up here.

01:23:31.000 I have everything.

01:23:32.000 So the plane's visible.

01:23:34.000 Everybody knows where I am.

01:23:36.000 Clearing everything with the FAA, the ATC, so everything is going to be completely organized as it needs to be.

01:23:42.000 We have a wind path in every location that we're going to possibly do this in.

01:23:46.000 Of course, New York is a dream, and there's some other dreams that we have.

01:23:51.000 We have a couple of key points that we're dreaming about doing this, and depending on wind and weather, that's where we'll do it.

01:23:58.000 And how do you descend?

01:24:03.000 Just let go of some...

01:24:05.000 You're just going to completely drop off?

01:24:06.000 Yeah, just release myself, yeah.

01:24:07.000 So you're going to skydive at 25,000 feet?

01:24:09.000 Yeah.

01:24:10.000 By the way, when I did the...

01:24:12.000 I told you when I did that test, when I went up to almost 24-7 or whatever, I had the helmet on.

01:24:19.000 The first breath I took, the entire thing was ice right away.

01:24:23.000 And I was flying down looking through like a little hole in the helmet.

01:24:27.000 I couldn't see.

01:24:30.000 Jesus Christ.

01:24:32.000 And so when you land, you have to land...

01:24:37.000 I mean, from 25,000 feet, you have to make sure that you're conscious.

01:24:40.000 You have to make sure that you can see.

01:24:42.000 That's right.

01:24:43.000 But usually, by the way, even if you are hypoxic and you're dropping...

01:24:47.000 You clear up at like 10,000 feet.

01:24:50.000 So Luke Akins, who you watch, he did a jump once where he was jumping with Felix Baumgartner, who he trained, and he was hypoxic.

01:25:01.000 He was blacked out.

01:25:02.000 But when he got to about 9,000 feet or so, he woke up.

01:25:06.000 Yeah, but from 9,000 feet down, you have 40 seconds to figure out where you are and what you're doing.

01:25:12.000 Okay.

01:25:13.000 Okay. 0.97

01:25:16.000 It still seems fucking terrifying. 0.79

01:25:19.000 And so then you're floating down and you have to find a good spot to land. 0.69

01:25:25.000 And when are you going to do this?

01:25:27.000 Like, what's the official launch date?

01:25:29.000 Is it August 31?

01:25:30.000 100%.

01:25:31.000 Depending on winds.

01:25:32.000 Depending on winds. 0.94

01:25:33.000 So if the winds are fucked on August 31st, you push it a little bit. 0.95

01:25:35.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.91

01:25:36.000 And that's the other thing YouTube's been amazing on.

01:25:38.000 There it is.

01:25:38.000 David Blaine, Ascension, YouTube Originals, August 31st.

01:25:42.000 Yeah, that's basically what it's like.

01:25:43.000 I love that YouTube stepped up to do this.

01:25:46.000 Yeah, it is amazing.

01:25:47.000 It is amazing.

01:25:48.000 Look at you floating above the cloud in that image.

01:25:50.000 And that's literally what you're going to be doing. 1.00

01:25:52.000 That's so fucked. 0.98

01:25:55.000 But also, the thing about this one, aside from the technical part of it, is like... 0.99

01:26:01.000 The visual on it, so far, is my favorite one.

01:26:04.000 Yeah.

01:26:05.000 It's like Up, like when they did it with the animated movie.

01:26:07.000 But when I look at the balloons, I become giddy.

01:26:10.000 And all these adults are working, and we're all laughing, because we're like kids playing with balloons, you know?

01:26:17.000 It's iconic.

01:26:17.000 It's something that every kid has kind of thought of.

01:26:20.000 Yeah.

01:26:21.000 Yeah.

01:26:21.000 Grabbing a balloon and flying.

01:26:22.000 And floating away.

01:26:23.000 Mary Poppins.

01:26:24.000 Yeah.

01:26:25.000 Yeah.

01:26:26.000 Wow, man.

01:26:26.000 And that was my daughter's nickname when she was growing up.

01:26:29.000 We called Mary, the real Mary Poppins.

01:26:31.000 She was a real Mary Poppins.

01:26:33.000 We'd put a balloon up and we'd always watch it and dream and talk about where it goes and stuff like that.

01:26:39.000 What is it like for her when you discuss these things with her?

01:26:43.000 She's so amazing.

01:26:43.000 I run ideas by her.

01:26:45.000 Really?

01:26:46.000 Yeah.

01:26:46.000 She's amazing.

01:26:47.000 By the way, the reason there's pink balloons in this one is because I was showing her all the balloons and she went, is there going to be pink? 0.75

01:26:52.000 And I was like, of course there's going to be pink.

01:26:54.000 And now there's pink.

01:26:56.000 That's hilarious.

01:26:58.000 Wow.

01:26:59.000 Now, have you been doing live shows this whole time?

01:27:02.000 Or are you able to with COVID? Not during COVID, no.

01:27:05.000 But right up to COVID, I was doing live.

01:27:07.000 I haven't been promoting or anything, but it's like my favorite thing.

01:27:11.000 Because I've been working on the live show for...

01:27:15.000 20-some years, and I've never done one until, like, the last few years.

01:27:20.000 Like, started, like, three years ago is the first time I did that, which is crazy, right?

01:27:25.000 Yeah.

01:27:27.000 But I finally felt like I had the right material to make a good show.

01:27:32.000 And the show is so—it's like I open it with the mouth sewing.

01:27:37.000 So the first thing is, like—but I bring people up, so it's also comical.

01:27:40.000 It's, like, funny, right?

01:27:41.000 Like, joking around and stuff, and you see people like, ah, reacting.

01:27:44.000 Now when you say mouth sewing, you actually sew your mouth shut?

01:27:47.000 Yeah.

01:27:47.000 And you do that how many nights a week?

01:27:50.000 One?

01:27:50.000 No.

01:27:51.000 So I would do two days on, one day off.

01:27:54.000 But every day of a show means you can't eat for 36 hours before the show because I also have to put a gallon of water in my stomach.

01:28:01.000 I have to put a cup of kerosene.

01:28:02.000 But now I don't swallow the kerosene.

01:28:04.000 I put it in my mouth now and spit it.

01:28:06.000 So I don't swallow.

01:28:06.000 But on Jimmy Kimmel, I drank this stuff.

01:28:10.000 And it's like really, really, that's how the guy died, Haji Ali, that I told you.

01:28:13.000 So now I just put it in the mouth, spit it.

01:28:16.000 But see, and then I do the frogs in the stomach.

01:28:18.000 I put the hanger all the way down the throat to fetch somebody's ring.

01:28:24.000 I do the breath hold every single night.

01:28:27.000 And then I have them push an ice pick through my arm every night, which is like you don't want to hit a brachial, you know, anything.

01:28:36.000 A nerve.

01:28:36.000 Yeah, or an artery or anything.

01:28:38.000 Of course.

01:28:39.000 And I let them choose a spot.

01:28:41.000 By the way, I also brought the ice pick if you do want to see, because I know that you know it's real, but I should...

01:28:47.000 Oh, I believe it's real.

01:28:48.000 But I still want to see it.

01:28:49.000 I haven't done it since my tour.

01:28:51.000 Really?

01:28:52.000 Yeah.

01:28:52.000 Are you itching to do it?

01:28:53.000 Is that what's going on here?

01:28:54.000 I mean, I'd like you to do it.

01:28:56.000 I'd like you to do it just to see that it is pretty straightforward.

01:28:59.000 Oh, I believe it's straightforward.

01:29:00.000 But I brought one with me and I got the alcohol from the...

01:29:03.000 So here is...

01:29:04.000 Look at that girl. 1.00

01:29:05.000 Poor girl. 1.00

01:29:07.000 So you're stitching your mouth shut.

01:29:10.000 Exactly.

01:29:10.000 So what I was able to do with the stage show is I bring people up on stage and I have the cameras with the big screen so you see people reacting to this stuff.

01:29:19.000 So it's the magic plus the reaction.

01:29:21.000 So you get that whole...

01:29:22.000 And this girl's really into it.

01:29:23.000 Look at her.

01:29:25.000 So you do this all the time, the stitching the mouth shut?

01:29:30.000 I would imagine you would accumulate some scar tissue.

01:29:32.000 No, that one's easy, but this one's legit.

01:29:35.000 This one I used to do through the hand.

01:29:36.000 This is the ice wave.

01:29:37.000 This one I used to do through the hand, and I developed so much scar tissue that when I move my fingers a certain way, I get a shooting pain.

01:29:43.000 So I stop doing the hands and I switch to here.

01:29:46.000 Mmm, that makes sense. 0.98

01:29:47.000 I would imagine that would really fuck your hands up. 0.99

01:29:56.000 So wait, I might have to sit next to you or something. 0.99

01:29:59.000 Do you want me to do this to you?

01:30:01.000 Is this what's going on here?

01:30:02.000 Yeah.

01:30:02.000 I can come over to your side.

01:30:03.000 Okay.

01:30:04.000 Is that okay?

01:30:05.000 Okay.

01:30:06.000 Alright.

01:30:06.000 But wait, don't you need the...

01:30:07.000 Or you can put those on?

01:30:08.000 I'll just come walk over.

01:30:12.000 Should I take the thing off?

01:30:14.000 You can if you like.

01:30:16.000 We'll both be basically talking into the same microphone.

01:30:19.000 No, but we can do it sitting.

01:30:20.000 Yeah.

01:30:21.000 But can you put those ones on?

01:30:22.000 Yeah, sure.

01:30:26.000 Jamie, does this mic work?

01:30:27.000 One second.

01:30:28.000 Okay, Jamie will turn this mic on and I'll crank this thing over to here. 0.74

01:30:31.000 Okay, so you choose the arm.

01:30:33.000 Do you want the left or the right?

01:30:34.000 Let's do the right since it's right next to me.

01:30:38.000 Okay.

01:30:38.000 Do you want them to come in and see it as well?

01:30:41.000 No.

01:30:42.000 Good enough.

01:30:43.000 Okay.

01:30:43.000 So now, this is not a new ice pick, and usually I do it with new ones, which means this isn't as sharp as it needs to be, so it means the push is going to be a little more difficult, I guess.

01:30:54.000 Why do you like to do this?

01:30:56.000 Are these pure alcohol?

01:30:59.000 Yes.

01:30:59.000 Yes?

01:31:00.000 I believe so.

01:31:02.000 I mean, they're just the standard ones that you get.

01:31:04.000 That's fine, I'm sure.

01:31:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:31:08.000 Oh, you want to make sure there's no scent in it or anything?

01:31:10.000 No, no, I want to make sure that there's no bacteria in it.

01:31:12.000 Right, but I mean on the alcohol strip.

01:31:14.000 Oh, yeah, exactly.

01:31:16.000 Why do you enjoy this?

01:31:17.000 You're excited about this.

01:31:19.000 No, no, no.

01:31:19.000 Well, first of all, it's amazing that you can actually do something like this, like it's nothing.

01:31:23.000 So there's a guy named Mirandayo.

01:31:25.000 Can you pull up Mirandayo, you think?

01:31:27.000 So Mirandayo, it's this guy, and nobody believed he was doing it for real.

01:31:32.000 And he would take...

01:31:33.000 Rapiers, and he would have them push right through the middle of his body, through his lungs and everything.

01:31:40.000 He would show on all sides, and then they would pull him out, and he'd be perfectly fine.

01:31:45.000 And every doctor would say, oh, you can't do that.

01:31:47.000 So remember when Steve Irwin died?

01:31:49.000 Do you know why he died?

01:31:51.000 No.

01:31:51.000 Because he pulled the stingray thing out of his heart.

01:31:53.000 The stingray stabbed him and he pulled it out, right?

01:31:56.000 Crocodile.

01:31:57.000 So if he kept it in there, he would have lived?

01:31:59.000 Right after that, a 70-year-old man was on his boat and a stingray jumped up out of the water, stung him in the heart, and then the stingray was gone.

01:32:08.000 Oh, I didn't even, yeah.

01:32:10.000 Oh my god!

01:32:11.000 Yeah, look at that.

01:32:12.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:32:13.000 But the fact that you can actually do this is what's crazy.

01:32:17.000 Like, the body can, with your mind, you can override it.

01:32:21.000 And then the thing is, he got so cocky, though, that he thought he could do anything, and then he ate one of these things, he swallowed it, and it killed him.

01:32:29.000 He bled internally and died.

01:32:30.000 But see, he got really cocky because he was like, I can do anything. 1.00

01:32:34.000 That is fucking insane. 0.99

01:32:35.000 Is he going through his liver? 1.00

01:32:38.000 He can go through anything.

01:32:39.000 And that's what I'm saying.

01:32:40.000 So the 70-year-old guy that got the stingray, it stabbed him in the heart.

01:32:45.000 Instead of pulling it out, which is like a corkstrew, he waited with doctors until it beat out the other side.

01:32:52.000 And he was fine.

01:32:54.000 You see?

01:32:55.000 Wow.

01:32:57.000 So, instead of pulling it out, he waited until what happened?

01:33:00.000 And the doctors waited, and with the heart, they let it beat out the other side, and they slowly let it come out.

01:33:05.000 It went through his whole body?

01:33:07.000 If they would have pulled it, it's like a corkscrew.

01:33:09.000 It would rip him apart. 0.99

01:33:10.000 He would die. 0.97

01:33:12.000 How long did it take for it to beat through his body?

01:33:13.000 I don't know, but I know that the doctors, what they did is they let it go through. 1.00

01:33:17.000 This fucking guy! 1.00

01:33:21.000 How many times did this guy get stabbed like this? 1.00

01:33:24.000 I've done that one, by the way, right there.

01:33:26.000 That's a safe place.

01:33:28.000 That's like not an issue.

01:33:29.000 But when you go through the lungs and stuff, it's crazy.

01:33:31.000 Look, it's crazy.

01:33:33.000 But this is too much.

01:33:34.000 I wouldn't show it. 0.99

01:33:35.000 That's a thick fucking sword, man. 1.00

01:33:38.000 He whipped that one? 1.00

01:33:40.000 Listen, he's...

01:33:41.000 So what happened was he started to get too cocky.

01:33:46.000 He started to think he was fine.

01:33:48.000 Oh, Jesus Christ!

01:33:52.000 But you have to listen to the origin of this trick, though.

01:33:55.000 That's not a trick.

01:33:57.000 I know, but listen.

01:33:58.000 The origin of this is, as a kid, there's that trick where they do needle through arm, right?

01:34:03.000 And it's like the rubber stuff and it sticks your skin together.

01:34:06.000 It looks perfect.

01:34:07.000 It looks like it's really through your arm.

01:34:09.000 And then they like squeeze blood out of the thing.

01:34:12.000 Right.

01:34:12.000 So I saw that and then I was like, but maybe that's like actually doable.

01:34:17.000 Like maybe that trick could really be done.

01:34:20.000 Like the same exact trick, but for real.

01:34:23.000 Right.

01:34:24.000 So that's this.

01:34:25.000 Okay.

01:34:26.000 Okay, so you take that.

01:34:27.000 Okay.

01:34:28.000 Like I said, it's going to be a little tricky to push through just because it's usually sharp and this time it's not as sharp.

01:34:34.000 How do you know where to do it through?

01:34:36.000 We're going to pick.

01:34:37.000 There's no particular spot?

01:34:39.000 You just don't want to hit an artery.

01:34:40.000 How do I know I'm not going to hit an artery then?

01:34:42.000 I don't know.

01:34:42.000 You're smart.

01:34:43.000 I can't kill you, bro. 1.00

01:34:43.000 What if you die? 1.00

01:34:45.000 So you want me to just right here?

01:34:46.000 Anywhere?

01:34:47.000 Sure.

01:34:48.000 Where do you prefer?

01:34:49.000 Wherever you want.

01:34:50.000 Like right there?

01:34:50.000 Sure.

01:34:51.000 Wow, sure.

01:34:52.000 No?

01:34:52.000 Yeah, do it there, where you want.

01:34:54.000 Do it where you want.

01:34:54.000 When you say, well, sure.

01:34:56.000 Like, where do you like it to go through?

01:34:58.000 The bottom?

01:34:59.000 No, I liked where you were going.

01:35:00.000 Right here.

01:35:01.000 I mean, that's fine.

01:35:04.000 But you're going to have to go, like, through.

01:35:06.000 Well, what do you want me to do?

01:35:07.000 Yeah, you're going to push through.

01:35:08.000 Okay.

01:35:09.000 Should I hold on to you here?

01:35:10.000 Yeah, keep, like, a straight path.

01:35:13.000 Okay, like that?

01:35:14.000 No, I'd go straight.

01:35:15.000 Like that?

01:35:16.000 Yeah, I'd go straight through, yeah.

01:35:18.000 Okay, ready?

01:35:18.000 Slowly.

01:35:19.000 I'd go slow.

01:35:26.000 Yeah.

01:35:26.000 See that?

01:35:28.000 Yep.

01:35:29.000 See?

01:35:30.000 So, it's hard to believe that it's real.

01:35:33.000 We keep pushing.

01:35:34.000 Keep going.

01:35:36.000 Keep going.

01:35:38.000 Wait.

01:35:39.000 Uh-oh.

01:35:40.000 Hold on.

01:35:43.000 Woo! 0.99

01:35:45.000 What happened?

01:35:46.000 I hit a nerve.

01:35:47.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:35:48.000 You gotta do it in another spot.

01:35:49.000 No, no, no.

01:35:50.000 Come on, man.

01:35:51.000 You gotta do it in another spot.

01:35:52.000 You were hitting a nerve. 0.99

01:35:53.000 Yeah, but what if I fuck your arm up, man? 1.00

01:35:55.000 And then you can't hang from the balloon. 0.99

01:35:57.000 And then YouTube's mad at me.

01:36:02.000 Okay, again.

01:36:03.000 Jesus, bro.

01:36:05.000 Okay.

01:36:06.000 So, by the way, honest to God, I never go in this direction.

01:36:10.000 Which way do you go?

01:36:11.000 I always go this direction.

01:36:13.000 Why?

01:36:13.000 From inside to out.

01:36:14.000 I'm just saying, of all the times I did it, I've always gone this direction.

01:36:19.000 Do you want me to go that direction?

01:36:20.000 I'm just telling you, I've never done it.

01:36:21.000 Is that better?

01:36:22.000 No.

01:36:23.000 So, what's the difference?

01:36:23.000 I'm just saying, I've never done it this way.

01:36:25.000 Oh, okay.

01:36:25.000 So, it's groundbreaking.

01:36:27.000 No, I'm saying it's nuts.

01:36:28.000 Well, it's definitely nuts.

01:36:30.000 Okay.

01:36:31.000 No, but from the bottom.

01:36:33.000 Like this?

01:36:33.000 Like that.

01:36:34.000 Yeah, and then I'd go again.

01:36:36.000 And I would try to go like a straight path through.

01:36:39.000 Like right there?

01:36:39.000 No, I would go like lower and in.

01:36:42.000 Like there?

01:36:43.000 Ready?

01:36:44.000 Yeah.

01:36:44.000 Okay.

01:36:45.000 Yeah, I'd go like that.

01:36:46.000 Hold on.

01:36:49.000 Wait, wait.

01:36:52.000 Push.

01:36:55.000 Yeah, like that.

01:36:56.000 Like that.

01:36:58.000 That's good.

01:36:59.000 Yep, we're on a clean path.

01:37:00.000 We hit something, but it's fine.

01:37:02.000 Now, what I do is this.

01:37:04.000 I use the skin here and I push so you can see it come through. 0.81

01:37:07.000 Push.

01:37:08.000 That's it.

01:37:09.000 See?

01:37:10.000 Alrighty.

01:37:15.000 Super unnecessary.

01:37:17.000 But it does seem like a magic trick.

01:37:20.000 It definitely doesn't seem like a magic trick to me.

01:37:23.000 But hold on.

01:37:23.000 There's blood vessels in everything.

01:37:25.000 How come there's no blood?

01:37:26.000 Well, it's a very small hole in comparison to...

01:37:30.000 No, it's a good size.

01:37:31.000 And there is blood on the other hole.

01:37:33.000 Oh, okay.

01:37:33.000 Yeah.

01:37:34.000 Well, that's because you hit something.

01:37:36.000 Uh-huh.

01:37:38.000 And your body's healthy, so it's clotting out pretty quickly.

01:37:41.000 Okay, then...

01:37:42.000 Should I put it out?

01:37:42.000 Yeah.

01:37:43.000 Okay.

01:37:43.000 Let it slowly.

01:37:44.000 Go ahead.

01:37:45.000 Pull. 0.98

01:37:47.000 Pull. 0.98

01:37:51.000 And that's it.

01:37:54.000 Okay.

01:37:59.000 So here, this is for you to keep.

01:38:05.000 I can't say I enjoyed that.

01:38:07.000 That was very uncomfortable.

01:38:10.000 But what's weird to me more than anything is that you seem to enjoy it.

01:38:15.000 You enjoyed the freak out part of it.

01:38:17.000 No, I like what I said.

01:38:19.000 I like that you can override your body with your brain to do things that seem like they're not real.

01:38:25.000 Yeah, like that.

01:38:26.000 You know it's real because of what you do to your body.

01:38:29.000 But most people see all of the things they do and think it's a magic trick.

01:38:32.000 Right.

01:38:33.000 They think it's a trick.

01:38:34.000 Like, okay, it's a trick.

01:38:35.000 Like, he's not holding his breath.

01:38:36.000 And you've done that thing with a sword where you've gone through your body?

01:38:40.000 Yeah, but it was not very thick and it was through right here.

01:38:43.000 I didn't go through the lung.

01:38:44.000 Okay, so you didn't go through the organs like this guy did?

01:38:46.000 No.

01:38:46.000 But I think you can.

01:38:48.000 Oh, well, obviously he did it.

01:38:50.000 Right.

01:38:51.000 And swallowing this is what killed him?

01:38:53.000 So he got really, he thought he could do anything.

01:38:57.000 So he's like, I'm going to swallow this type of thing and then I'm going to bring it up.

01:39:02.000 He swallowed it and he couldn't bring it up.

01:39:04.000 And then he fell asleep and it ruptured his heart.

01:39:06.000 He died.

01:39:07.000 He woke up, they found him cold.

01:39:09.000 Oh boy.

01:39:10.000 Internal bleeding.

01:39:12.000 Jesus Christ.

01:39:13.000 That is the thing about these extreme feats, right?

01:39:17.000 Is that you possibly might be pushing the boundaries of what's physically possible, which means you could die like Houdini.

01:39:22.000 Like Houdini died from getting punched, right?

01:39:24.000 Yeah, in the stomach.

01:39:25.000 Yeah.

01:39:26.000 How does a punch to the stomach kill you?

01:39:27.000 Well, so normally, like I had Kimbo slice punch me in the stomach.

01:39:31.000 Did you really?

01:39:32.000 Yeah.

01:39:33.000 Ouch.

01:39:33.000 Yeah.

01:39:34.000 And then I had him do it again.

01:39:36.000 And then I felt bad.

01:39:37.000 I didn't want to make him keep doing it because it wasn't, you know.

01:39:39.000 Right.

01:39:40.000 Because as you know, you can train to take a punch.

01:39:42.000 Yes.

01:39:42.000 Obviously.

01:39:43.000 So I basically had my trainer, Rich Barretta, throw... 0.86

01:39:47.000 Heavy balls, kick me in the stomach, do everything. 0.88

01:39:51.000 And I trained for a long, like a year, just to take a punch from anybody. 0.99

01:39:55.000 Oh yeah.

01:39:56.000 Here comes Kimbo.

01:39:57.000 Boom.

01:39:58.000 And then I said to him, do it again.

01:40:02.000 And by the way, I'm not even in top physical.

01:40:04.000 So I said, do it again.

01:40:06.000 But I obviously could have kept going.

01:40:09.000 And I did that based on Houdini, right?

01:40:11.000 But here's the thing.

01:40:13.000 So Houdini would do this on stage every night.

01:40:15.000 And it's a great thing in the show.

01:40:18.000 It's like, look, any 10 strongest people in audience, come punch him.

01:40:22.000 And...

01:40:23.000 And these kids think he's invisible, invincible, right?

01:40:27.000 Like, this is Houdini, Man of Steel, whatever, right?

01:40:30.000 So he's sleeping in his dressing room, these two college kids.

01:40:33.000 One kid's like, watch how strong it is.

01:40:34.000 And they punch Houdini in the stomach really hard.

01:40:36.000 While he's asleep?

01:40:37.000 Yes.

01:40:37.000 And as you know, that's dangerous because you don't have a wall up.

01:40:41.000 So he ruptured something, but he's a workaholic.

01:40:43.000 So the guy is in a lot of pain.

01:40:46.000 Maybe it wasn't related.

01:40:49.000 Maybe it's something different.

01:40:50.000 Maybe he had appendices.

01:40:51.000 Who knows, right?

01:40:52.000 He's in a lot of pain, but he wouldn't let the audience down, so he wouldn't quit his show.

01:40:57.000 So he did his show, and at the end of the show, he's upside down in the water tank, everything else when he shouldn't have been.

01:41:02.000 He should have been in the hospital, but instead, he did the show that night, collapsed on the stage, was not from the water tank, but right after the water tank, was rushed to a hospital and then died in the hospital.

01:41:12.000 And what was the diagnosis?

01:41:13.000 What did he die from?

01:41:14.000 Well, it was 1926. Voodoo. 0.96

01:41:18.000 He died from voodoo. 0.99

01:41:21.000 Yeah.

01:41:22.000 Wow.

01:41:23.000 So, I mean, that's the thing about someone who does something that pushes it to the edge like that.

01:41:30.000 I mean, when someone sees you hold your breath for 20 minutes, what's fascinating about it is not just that it's hard to do, but that you might die.

01:41:38.000 Yeah.

01:41:38.000 Right?

01:41:39.000 Yeah.

01:41:40.000 Or some people say, oh, how's he doing it?

01:41:43.000 What's the trigger?

01:41:44.000 So there's all different interpretations.

01:41:47.000 But the worry, the thing that thrills people.

01:41:50.000 Yeah, it's like the idea that something could go wrong.

01:41:54.000 That's why everybody watched Evel Knievel, because he might wipe out on it.

01:41:57.000 And he often did wipe out on his bike.

01:42:00.000 Yeah.

01:42:02.000 This thrill of getting to that edge is very dangerous, right?

01:42:07.000 Because you keep pushing...

01:42:08.000 There's a danger, but I feel like if you rehearse and practice and put the best team and don't just do crazy things without a plan, then I feel like the danger is like, sure, the danger's there, but I also rode my motorcycle here, which is also extraordinary.

01:42:21.000 I've lost a lot of friends on bikes, right?

01:42:24.000 So, sure, I get what you're saying, and I understand all that.

01:42:28.000 You seem to like thrills.

01:42:31.000 Well, I mean, I like adventures.

01:42:34.000 Like riding a motorcycle, too.

01:42:35.000 Yeah, it was an adventure.

01:42:36.000 That is an adventure.

01:42:38.000 I mean, I look at people that do it every day and I go, that's a braver person than I am.

01:42:43.000 And in California, you're allowed to weave, dude.

01:42:44.000 So that's kind of amazing.

01:42:47.000 In California, they're like, go ahead.

01:42:49.000 Give it a shot. 1.00

01:42:50.000 Fuck it, you're here. 1.00

01:42:53.000 Do you have a grand vision of your life in terms of these stunts that you do? 1.00

01:43:00.000 Do you have some ultimate threshold that you'd like to get to?

01:43:06.000 We have to take a break.

01:43:07.000 I want to make sure that I'm okay.

01:43:09.000 Okay.

01:43:10.000 Are you bleeding?

01:43:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:43:12.000 We'll take a break.

01:43:13.000 We'll be right back.

01:43:14.000 So we had to clean up your wound and it was fine.

01:43:19.000 You seem to enjoy it.

01:43:21.000 You really do.

01:43:22.000 You were laughing while they were cleaning it up and checking it and like, it's good, we're good.

01:43:28.000 It was just, what was it?

01:43:30.000 The blood?

01:43:30.000 What was it that was bothering you?

01:43:33.000 He's drinking all the water to prepare for swallowing a frog.

01:43:36.000 I just felt, you know, too much of the magic becoming real.

01:43:41.000 The magic.

01:43:42.000 How much water do you have to drink to do what you want to do?

01:43:47.000 Oh, we'll see.

01:43:59.000 What's up?

01:44:00.000 Do you have to drink it at a certain speed?

01:44:02.000 Because I've seen people that can chug these.

01:44:03.000 They just shove the whole thing down their face.

01:44:05.000 It's almost like a magic trick in itself.

01:44:07.000 They can drink it.

01:44:08.000 Yeah, those guys that just...

01:44:09.000 I had like the guy that was the fastest work on it with me.

01:44:13.000 How many do you have to drink?

01:44:16.000 You've drank three so far?

01:44:17.000 Yeah, plus the two out there, but yeah.

01:44:20.000 So five, you have to drink eight total?

01:44:24.000 Do you need a bucket or anything to throw the frog up in?

01:44:27.000 Do we have a bucket?

01:44:29.000 Ice bucket?

01:44:30.000 That doesn't seem like enough fluid, though.

01:44:33.000 There's an American flag bucket in the back, that big one.

01:44:42.000 Oh, perfect.

01:44:43.000 Oh, look at that.

01:44:44.000 How convenient.

01:44:45.000 This poor frog has no idea.

01:44:47.000 He's a magical frog.

01:44:49.000 How do you know he's real?

01:44:50.000 He's real.

01:44:51.000 Well, you don't know.

01:44:52.000 That could be a magic trick.

01:44:54.000 Well, if it is, it's amazing you should sell these to people that don't want biological frogs. 1.00

01:45:00.000 That's a fucking live frog. 0.99

01:45:03.000 I mean, he's looking at me, he's moving around, he's bobbing his head. 1.00

01:45:06.000 He's trying to get the fuck out. 0.98

01:45:08.000 He's making the thing with the throat. 0.99

01:45:11.000 Look at him, he's trying to get out.

01:45:12.000 That's a real frog, kids.

01:45:15.000 No doubt.

01:45:18.000 When did you start doing this?

01:45:21.000 The frog thing.

01:45:22.000 Is that enough?

01:45:25.000 What if it overflows?

01:45:27.000 There's a guy called...

01:45:29.000 There's a guy called the Human Aquarium.

01:45:33.000 So, the thing about most of the acts that I'm doing, by the way, like night after night, usually the people that did them, it was like their one acts.

01:45:40.000 There was one guy called the Human Aquarium, and he was the guy that could swallow frogs and bring them up.

01:45:44.000 But he would do it, you'd see him swallow them, and then you'd see him bring them up.

01:45:47.000 So it wasn't magical, it was like a skill set.

01:45:50.000 I would, usually what I would do is I'd put them in my stomach, keep them in there for like two hours, and then bring them up and freak you out, right?

01:45:57.000 You see?

01:45:58.000 And I'd have a gallon of water in my stomach, so I have an aquarium.

01:46:02.000 That baking soda gets rid of the acid, no food, 36 hours.

01:46:07.000 And then once I drink this, we're at a gallon.

01:46:11.000 We're at four liters, so just under a gallon.

01:46:14.000 So did you not eat for 36 hours in preparation for this?

01:46:18.000 Yes.

01:46:21.000 That's a lot of not eating for this poor frog's worst moment of his life.

01:46:27.000 This poor little dude, Jamie.

01:46:29.000 Just in case you don't think he's real.

01:46:31.000 He's real.

01:46:33.000 Oh, there's more than one in there.

01:46:34.000 No, that's just him.

01:46:36.000 It's just an illusion.

01:46:39.000 I thought there was a little one in there.

01:46:42.000 That's a decent sized frog too, by the way.

01:46:45.000 You wouldn't want to swallow a frog that large.

01:46:48.000 Mark Twain has a quote.

01:46:49.000 He says, eat a live frog first thing in the morning and nothing worse could happen for the rest of your day.

01:46:58.000 By the way, back to the James Nestor book, the one I was saying, Deep.

01:47:03.000 There's something he talks about that's really amazing, which is one of my favorite parts.

01:47:07.000 And there he talks about how choral communicates.

01:47:10.000 Can I read this thing?

01:47:12.000 Sure.

01:47:12.000 Yeah, sure.

01:47:14.000 So he talks about, it's one of my favorite things.

01:47:19.000 That he talks about.

01:47:20.000 It's so amazing.

01:47:22.000 So let's see.

01:47:23.000 We're deep.

01:47:27.000 Okay, so...

01:47:30.000 I have like a bunch of notes...

01:47:34.000 What app are you using to read from?

01:47:36.000 iBooks, just because you can keep all the books there.

01:47:38.000 And you highlight things with iBooks?

01:47:41.000 Yeah, of course.

01:47:41.000 I didn't know you could highlight things.

01:47:42.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:47:43.000 And then you keep all of your books here.

01:47:45.000 Right.

01:47:45.000 Oh, no, I do that on my phone, but I didn't know you could highlight.

01:47:50.000 I rarely read on the phone, too.

01:47:52.000 I usually use a Kindle.

01:47:54.000 Yeah, I only use...

01:47:56.000 This is the thing I live by, so it's ruined my life, but also helped it somehow, I guess, some way.

01:48:04.000 Let's see.

01:48:05.000 Hold on, it'll take me a second to pull it up.

01:48:08.000 I just like the Kindle because it looks like paper.

01:48:11.000 You know the paper white ones?

01:48:13.000 Yeah, and they're easier on the eyes.

01:48:16.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

01:48:16.000 It's tricky on the eyes as well.

01:48:21.000 Okay, so can I just read it?

01:48:23.000 Sure.

01:48:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:48:24.000 Okay, so it's part of what the Aquanauts and Aquarius are trying to find out.

01:48:28.000 They're also trying to crack the more mystical marine riddles, like the secret behind coral's telepathic communication.

01:48:37.000 This is so crazy what he writes about.

01:48:39.000 Every year, on the same day, at the same hour, usually within the same minute, corals of the same species, although separated by thousands of miles, will suddenly spawn in perfect synchronicity.

01:48:54.000 The dates and times vary from year to year for reasons only the coral knows.

01:49:00.000 Stranger still, while one species of coral spawns during one hour, another species right next to it waits for a different hour or a different day or a different week before spawning in synchronicity with its own species.

01:49:14.000 Distant seems to have no effect.

01:49:16.000 If you broke off a chunk of coral and placed it in a bucket beneath a sink in London, that chunk would, in most cases, spawn at the same time as other coral of the same species around the world.

01:49:28.000 Which is crazy.

01:49:30.000 Like, you could take a piece of coral, break it off, put it in London, and another coral of the same species will in synchronicity spawn at the exact same time.

01:49:39.000 And they have no idea why.

01:49:41.000 I think?

01:50:07.000 Researchers have found that if the spawning is just 15 minutes out of sync, coral colonies' chances of survival are greatly reduced.

01:50:14.000 Coral is the largest biological structure on the planet and covers 175,000 square miles of the seafloor, and it can communicate in a way far more sophisticated than anyone ever thought.

01:50:27.000 And yet, coral is one of the most primitive animals on Earth.

01:50:31.000 Coral has no eyes, no ears, and no brain. 0.98

01:50:37.000 Crazy. 1.00

01:50:37.000 That's insane. 1.00

01:50:38.000 Yeah, that's what I thought it was.

01:50:40.000 Well, it's fascinating too that they just have no idea why or how.

01:50:44.000 I mean, what's the mechanism for their communication?

01:50:48.000 The fact that if something's under a sink in London, it syncs up with coral of the same species on another side of the planet.

01:50:54.000 Like, what is happening?

01:50:55.000 I think, like, one of the most futuristic minds of our lives is Jim Cameron.

01:50:59.000 I think, like, Avatar and Terminator 2 and, like, the machines taking over.

01:51:05.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:51:07.000 I think we're going to look back and be like, wow, he really predicted a lie. 1.00

01:51:11.000 He knew some shit. 1.00

01:51:12.000 The trees all communicating with each other. 1.00

01:51:14.000 Yeah.

01:51:15.000 Well, have you read about the mycelium and the fungus underneath the soil that actually the trees utilize it through their root structures and they communicate through that?

01:51:30.000 Yeah, there's some sort of a mycorrhizal relationship that fungus has with these trees.

01:51:37.000 And they actually somehow or another communicate through each other as well.

01:51:42.000 They're like using the soil.

01:51:45.000 That's crazy.

01:51:46.000 We think of soil as being dirt, right?

01:51:48.000 But there's life in there.

01:51:50.000 Yeah.

01:51:51.000 All sorts of biological life living in that soil.

01:51:54.000 Yes.

01:51:54.000 And these trees and different plants actually through their root structure communicate.

01:52:00.000 And use the fungi that live in the soil.

01:52:06.000 Paul Stamets, who's a wizard when it comes to mycology and talking about fungus, and he's got some amazing work that he's done just his whole life studying mushrooms.

01:52:17.000 And it's like so advanced.

01:52:18.000 When he talks to you about it, you just really get this feeling like there's something going on that we don't totally understand.

01:52:24.000 Like the largest animal.

01:52:26.000 But fungus is kind of an animal.

01:52:28.000 It breathes oxygen.

01:52:29.000 And it breathes out carbon dioxide.

01:52:33.000 That's crazy.

01:52:34.000 I didn't even know that.

01:52:35.000 So the relationship that fungus, that mushrooms have with the earth is in some ways more similar to us than it is to plants.

01:52:45.000 Because plants are breathing in carbon dioxide, obviously, and breathing out oxygen.

01:52:49.000 So we're closer to fungi.

01:52:51.000 Yeah, and they're living with these things.

01:52:53.000 And there's a group of fungi, I guess, in the Pacific Northwest.

01:52:58.000 It's the largest living creature, other than, I guess, like biological organism, you'd say was a coral reef. 0.97

01:53:04.000 But there's something in the Pacific Northwest that's fucking enormous. 0.71

01:53:08.000 And it's just one interconnected mushroom structure. 0.97

01:53:12.000 Wow.

01:53:13.000 It's very heavy.

01:53:14.000 And obviously, the right ones can bring you to God.

01:53:18.000 The right ones can connect you to alien life and the future and tell you what you're doing wrong with the planet.

01:53:26.000 So there's something going on with these things.

01:53:28.000 That touches into a different part of your consciousness.

01:53:31.000 Well, we're just very egocentric and arrogant in our ideas about what the human race means to the rest of the planet.

01:53:36.000 Because we have this ability to manipulate things and send texts and emails.

01:53:40.000 Which is just about our proportions, basically.

01:53:42.000 Just because of our fingers and our ability to like, yeah.

01:53:45.000 But we think that's so important because it's so important to us.

01:53:48.000 Because it's so significant.

01:53:50.000 The ability to watch a television show or not be able to.

01:53:53.000 The ability to fly in a plane or not.

01:53:54.000 Those things are so significant that we think of them as being the most significant things in the world.

01:53:59.000 But meanwhile, there's some animals. 0.93

01:54:01.000 Like when you see a flock of birds fly in synchronicity in some sort of strange dance, and you're like, how the fuck are they doing that?

01:54:09.000 And no one knows.

01:54:10.000 They really don't know.

01:54:12.000 They're amazing.

01:54:12.000 There's all this guesswork.

01:54:13.000 They're not really sure exactly what's going on.

01:54:15.000 How do they know how to travel thousands of miles every season and go back to the place where they spawned?

01:54:22.000 They don't know.

01:54:23.000 They don't know.

01:54:24.000 How does salmon?

01:54:25.000 Salmon figure out a way to get all the way back to where they were born.

01:54:29.000 They make their way all the way through the river to the ocean, and then when it's time to rock and roll, they get all the way back.

01:54:36.000 And they have to get back to that one spot.

01:54:38.000 They can't get Just any old river.

01:54:40.000 They won't make it.

01:54:41.000 They won't survive.

01:54:42.000 They won't spawn.

01:54:42.000 They won't do it.

01:54:43.000 They have to get back to the place where they belong.

01:54:45.000 And something in their little salmon brains, or in their salmon biological system, lets them know.

01:54:51.000 And we don't know what it is. 0.99

01:54:52.000 We don't know what it is, but we fuck up and we damn these river structures, and then they die. 1.00

01:54:56.000 And they die off. 1.00

01:54:57.000 The Pacific Northwest, they had a huge problem with that.

01:55:00.000 And they didn't understand it.

01:55:02.000 When they first put these dams in place, these salmon would just pool up and they try to redistribute them to other places and then they're like, nope, I need to go back to where I'm from.

01:55:11.000 It's weird, man.

01:55:12.000 Biological life is weird. 1.00

01:55:14.000 It is amazing.

01:55:16.000 And it's funny, right?

01:55:17.000 We think we're so...

01:55:19.000 Because we can do things that other ones can't do, but they can do things we can't do.

01:55:23.000 We just don't put a high priority on what they can do for whatever egocentric reason.

01:55:28.000 I was swimming in a Tonga.

01:55:33.000 In the Pacific Northwest.

01:55:34.000 And I was with humpback whales.

01:55:37.000 And I was with my daughter and we looked at the mother and the calf.

01:55:41.000 I mean, you know, swimming, we were watching them.

01:55:45.000 And it's the most beautiful, overwhelming moment.

01:55:52.000 I'll show you after some footage.

01:55:55.000 But then I was alone.

01:55:59.000 And I was like holding my breath and kind of free diving next to them.

01:56:03.000 And, you know, when you're not on scuba, it's not.

01:56:07.000 They're happy to be around you.

01:56:10.000 And I'm free diving and swimming with the mother and the baby.

01:56:16.000 And I'm looking at the mother, and I'm certain, certain that she's just looking at me, but in the nicest way.

01:56:25.000 Like, in the most peaceful...

01:56:27.000 It's not like a shark eye that's like, whoa, this thing is like...

01:56:31.000 So, I'm certain that she's like...

01:56:37.000 Trying to communicate or something like that.

01:56:39.000 So I'm still on the same breath while I'm communicating.

01:56:41.000 And I go like this.

01:56:43.000 I open my arms up and turn to the mother like this.

01:56:46.000 I go like that.

01:56:48.000 And the mother mimics, the humpback mimics me and turns right towards me and goes like this, right? 0.99

01:56:55.000 So now we're swimming together and I'm like this, like kicking at fins on.

01:57:00.000 And the humpback is doing, the mother is doing that to me and I'm swimming in synchronicity with the mother and the baby's following her. 1.00

01:57:09.000 And then as soon as I'm like done from here and I go back down, she goes back down.

01:57:14.000 And it was like I wanted to cry underwater.

01:57:17.000 But yeah, it's like you think.

01:57:18.000 But also their brains are so much bigger than our, of course they're so...

01:57:23.000 I still have all this water in my stomach, so if I'm gonna do this, I might need to do it.

01:57:27.000 Let's do it.

01:57:30.000 You need another one of those?

01:57:32.000 What is the reason why you need so much water to do this?

01:57:35.000 Is it so that the frog has a place to be?

01:57:43.000 So the frog is safe.

01:57:45.000 You know, I've never injured a frog or anything.

01:57:48.000 I'm sure he feels very comfortable knowing that.

01:57:51.000 Here he goes.

01:57:55.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:57:56.000 Did he hop right out?

01:57:57.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:57:58.000 He's like, I know what the fuck is happening here. 0.99

01:58:01.000 Oh, hey, buddy. 0.99

01:58:04.000 Hold on, let me just...

01:58:05.000 Okay, so hold on.

01:58:06.000 Okay.

01:58:07.000 I just usually like to give him a little...

01:58:09.000 Give him a little bath?

01:58:10.000 Oh, yeah.

01:58:11.000 Very good.

01:58:13.000 Okay.

01:58:14.000 So this is basically the technique, and I've put up to ten frogs inside.

01:58:19.000 Look, so I can come.

01:58:23.000 Need more?

01:58:46.000 And now we can hang and talk for, you know, as long as we want.

01:58:48.000 So how long does he stay in there?

01:58:51.000 What's the longest you've kept him in there and they live?

01:58:54.000 Like three hours or so.

01:58:56.000 And none of them have ever died?

01:58:57.000 Nope.

01:58:58.000 Wow.

01:58:59.000 That's pretty mean.

01:59:00.000 How bad do you have to pee right now on a 1 to 10?

01:59:04.000 Anytime anybody complains about needing to pee, I'm going to show them this video.

01:59:14.000 Tenth.

01:59:15.000 Tenth water.

01:59:16.000 And what are they?

01:59:17.000 Eight ounces?

01:59:18.000 Sixteen.

01:59:18.000 Sixteen?

01:59:20.000 It's my water, bro.

01:59:22.000 It's more than a gallon of water.

01:59:25.000 Yeah.

01:59:27.000 Now, here's the magical part.

01:59:31.000 It's my mouth empty.

01:59:35.000 Then I have to, like, get him to swim up to the...

01:59:41.000 How do you do that?

01:59:43.000 I don't know.

01:59:44.000 I just like did it and had fluoroscopies and looked where they were and then saw that and then figured out how to...

01:59:50.000 I did sword swamp to like...

01:59:54.000 Do you feel I'm moving around inside you?

01:59:58.000 When there's a lot.

02:00:00.000 When there's ten?

02:00:03.000 Jamie, your face.

02:00:06.000 Here he comes.

02:00:07.000 No, I gotta...

02:00:08.000 No?

02:00:08.000 First, I like to get a little bit of...

02:00:14.000 You forcing them out now?

02:00:17.000 Can't talk.

02:00:19.000 I'll just get some more water.

02:00:26.000 When was the first time you did this one?

02:00:32.000 I worked on it.

02:00:35.000 I started like...

02:00:37.000 Three or four years ago.

02:00:39.000 The first time you put the frog in your mouth and swallowed.

02:00:43.000 I got salmonella.

02:00:44.000 No, I didn't swallow the first time.

02:00:45.000 I just wanted to get comfortable with the frog.

02:00:47.000 You got salmonella?

02:00:47.000 Yeah.

02:00:48.000 And then I got it again after I tried it the second time.

02:00:51.000 And then I built up a resistance to salmonella.

02:00:53.000 Oh, jeez.

02:00:56.000 That's good if you like sushi.

02:00:58.000 Mouth empty.

02:01:00.000 Right?

02:01:08.000 Here he comes.

02:01:20.000 This is so bizarre.

02:01:22.000 Here he comes.

02:01:29.000 It's because I drank so much so it's like I have to like locate him.

02:01:34.000 You have to locate him.

02:01:35.000 Kind of.

02:01:42.000 The sounds.

02:01:44.000 What would you call this, Jamie?

02:01:45.000 ASMR? This is so strange.

02:01:56.000 So for people that are just listening, I highly recommend you go to the video.

02:02:00.000 You're going to have to condense.

02:02:03.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

02:02:04.000 We're going to keep this up exactly the way it is.

02:02:07.000 People need to see.

02:02:08.000 Oh! 0.60

02:02:20.000 Take out like a liter of water.

02:02:27.000 Oh my god!

02:02:29.000 That's so strange.

02:02:32.000 Oh, you spit on Biggie. 1.00

02:02:37.000 That's called the water spout. 0.99

02:02:39.000 That's how you usually put out the fire.

02:02:41.000 Oh my god.

02:02:47.000 Hold on. 0.99

02:02:52.000 The frog is probably like, what the fuck did I do deserve this? 1.00

02:02:55.000 I bet that frog was just like an asshole person in another life. 1.00

02:03:05.000 That's a lot of water. 1.00

02:03:07.000 Do we need another bucket?

02:03:09.000 Maybe.

02:03:10.000 Go get that plastic bucket in the back. 0.90

02:03:18.000 I don't know if that's good enough, but for now, we'll just use that for now.

02:03:21.000 It is quite preposterous to watch the amount of water that's coming out of you.

02:03:37.000 Where's he at right now?

02:03:50.000 Oh boy.

02:03:56.000 You got him in there?

02:03:58.000 Put him in my hands?

02:03:59.000 Okay.

02:04:02.000 There he is.

02:04:04.000 Oh boy.

02:04:06.000 Little fella. 1.00

02:04:07.000 Little fella, you've had a rough life.

02:04:10.000 You've had a road.

02:04:11.000 You've had a road, buddy.

02:04:13.000 So that's the frog trick.

02:04:16.000 He's alive.

02:04:17.000 And perfect.

02:04:18.000 Yeah, he seems fine.

02:04:19.000 Oh, don't lose him.

02:04:21.000 I don't want to lose him.

02:04:22.000 Hey, you want to put him back in the jar?

02:04:24.000 Let me give him a big little...

02:04:26.000 Hold on.

02:04:27.000 Let's give him a little bit of water, fresh.

02:04:36.000 Okay.

02:04:41.000 I think I'm going to need more than paper towels, Jamie.

02:04:45.000 Yeah, I'm going to wash my hands eventually.

02:04:48.000 Oh, there is handcuffs here.

02:04:50.000 Oh, you have a pair?

02:04:51.000 Yeah, Jamie.

02:04:52.000 Real ones?

02:04:53.000 I don't know.

02:04:55.000 But is that just coincidental?

02:04:57.000 No, no, no.

02:04:58.000 There's a guy, Ed Calderon.

02:05:00.000 He's a guy who used to work with the Mexican police at the border.

02:05:06.000 Let me take a few paper towels, too.

02:05:09.000 And he brought us some handcuffs to teach us how to get out of them, right?

02:05:18.000 Just noticed that they were there.

02:05:20.000 Random.

02:05:21.000 That seems planned.

02:05:23.000 But that's really, they were just here?

02:05:25.000 He gave them to me and he gave me like a little tool to show me how to...

02:05:30.000 How to what?

02:05:31.000 How to open them.

02:05:33.000 What's this plastic thing on?

02:05:34.000 I have no idea.

02:05:36.000 But he gave you tools to show you how to open them, like how?

02:05:39.000 I don't remember.

02:05:40.000 I'd have to go back and watch the video.

02:05:41.000 If you ever get caught.

02:05:42.000 Yeah, if you ever get handcuffed.

02:05:43.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:05:43.000 How to get the fuck out. 0.98

02:05:44.000 Oh, like how to pick them, you mean? 0.92

02:05:45.000 How to shove it through the thing to kind of like go past the teeth of the lock to make it open up.

02:05:52.000 So how to pick them.

02:05:53.000 Yes, exactly.

02:05:57.000 Is it not going to work?

02:05:58.000 I don't know.

02:05:59.000 What are you trying to do there?

02:06:01.000 I just want to see, like...

02:06:10.000 What are you physically trying to do?

02:06:12.000 Oh, I just want to see if I can actually break them.

02:06:16.000 Break them?

02:06:17.000 Yeah, like break the metal.

02:06:19.000 So like, really break them for real.

02:06:23.000 How do you usually do that?

02:06:25.000 I don't know.

02:06:26.000 You don't know?

02:06:27.000 No, it's like really hard to break them.

02:06:30.000 Was it usually easy to break them?

02:06:33.000 No, it's always very difficult to break handcuffs because you're breaking the handcuffs.

02:06:38.000 Right, but you're trying.

02:06:39.000 Yeah.

02:06:41.000 Because there's some sort of technique to it or something?

02:06:43.000 Using leverage?

02:06:45.000 That's what I'm hoping, but I don't know. 0.96

02:06:54.000 How many days of your life do you think you've spent fucking with handcuffs if you could just boil it all down to time? 0.97

02:07:03.000 50? 0.98

02:07:08.000 Yeah, but this is probably boring for like anybody that's a thing.

02:07:17.000 So you're just trying to use the way the attachment as a leverage point.

02:07:22.000 Yeah, just that yellow thing.

02:07:25.000 That thing might be weird, that yellow thing.

02:07:29.000 Yeah, I'm trying to use like a...

02:07:33.000 What is the yellow thing?

02:07:35.000 I don't know.

02:07:36.000 I don't know.

02:07:37.000 This is just how Ed brought them to us.

02:07:39.000 Yeah, I don't know if I can get these things broken.

02:07:43.000 We can keep talking.

02:07:45.000 Now I'm going to be stuck on this thing.

02:07:48.000 Yeah, but you'll be so preoccupied.

02:07:49.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:07:51.000 That frog's like, what the fuck just happened? 0.99

02:07:53.000 Look at him. 0.99

02:07:54.000 He's just sitting there breathing.

02:07:56.000 He's chilling.

02:07:57.000 Yeah.

02:07:58.000 Imagine him being a frog.

02:07:59.000 You're like, well, this is it.

02:08:00.000 I knew it was coming one day.

02:08:02.000 That's why I'm so scared of bass.

02:08:05.000 By the way, yeah, the ones I get are like, normally they would be used for bait.

02:08:12.000 So I asked the guy, I was like, could you give me some here?

02:08:16.000 And they became my daughter's pets.

02:08:21.000 I've never, never ever injured or hurt a frog.

02:08:25.000 But how'd you know that that was gonna be the case when you first swallowed one?

02:08:28.000 The first one you swallowed, you probably had to be like...

02:08:30.000 No, I didn't start the frog.

02:08:31.000 It started with like bingo balls and things like that.

02:08:34.000 I started playing around.

02:08:38.000 So it started with like, you know, how much water could I put in, then how could I spout the water out to use it to put out the fire, then could the kerosene float on top, then I went to lamp oil.

02:08:47.000 That's gotta be so bad for you.

02:08:49.000 Bad for you.

02:08:49.000 What is kerosene like inside your body?

02:08:52.000 Do you feel it burning?

02:08:53.000 No, but like the problem is all that stuff has a residue.

02:08:57.000 What is this guy doing, Jamie?

02:08:58.000 It's oil-based.

02:08:59.000 This is the kerosene.

02:09:01.000 It's a water spout thing.

02:09:03.000 Haji Ali, Egyptian fire-eater in human fountain.

02:09:06.000 Do you know of this guy?

02:09:07.000 Yeah, that's the guy I'm talking about.

02:09:09.000 Oh, there he is.

02:09:09.000 There it is.

02:09:11.000 Yeah, he's amazing.

02:09:12.000 Oh, boy.

02:09:13.000 There's a really funny clip.

02:09:15.000 See, he's spitting the kerosene and then he puts it out with the water, which is underneath because it floats on top.

02:09:20.000 That is so bizarre.

02:09:21.000 Look how much control he has.

02:09:23.000 I saw that act and wanted to figure that out.

02:09:27.000 What year is this?

02:09:29.000 Almost a hundred.

02:09:31.000 1925. Almost a hundred years ago.

02:09:35.000 I mean, that guy.

02:09:36.000 Haji Ali.

02:09:37.000 Yeah, he was called the human fire hydrant.

02:09:39.000 That had to be a rough way to go.

02:09:41.000 However, he died.

02:09:42.000 Because he probably did that every day, right?

02:09:43.000 This stuff took a toll, yeah.

02:09:44.000 Oh, yeah.

02:09:46.000 Forget those.

02:09:47.000 Do these after, yeah.

02:09:48.000 We don't need to do that.

02:09:49.000 They're very slippery.

02:09:50.000 So let me get back to the question that I had before you ran off because you were worried about your arm.

02:09:57.000 You've done so many insane stunts and so many really of these bizarre things that require so much of you.

02:10:07.000 Do you like have a thing in your mind that you have to keep ramping it up and that do you have a place that you would ultimately like to get to with these things?

02:10:17.000 No, I just constantly like kind of try to figure out like what things have been done in the past historically and then I try to figure out how to make them interesting and then I figure out how to make them kind of modern.

02:10:29.000 So it's not like a...

02:10:32.000 You know, it's like, it's a small step-by-step process, and I think about each thing, and then I try to put them all together.

02:10:41.000 But do you feel like you have to keep pushing the envelope?

02:10:44.000 Well, I have like a few things that I've been trying to work on to get to that place.

02:10:50.000 So there is like a...

02:10:53.000 It's not a push the envelope, it's just I have a bunch of things I've been trying to figure out.

02:10:57.000 How many do you have on the back burner, in the back of your head?

02:10:59.000 I have two more crazy ones that I'm trying to figure out.

02:11:02.000 Can you share them?

02:11:08.000 The thing I will tell you is that if you put them all together, the letters all equal out my name.

02:11:17.000 That's all you can say?

02:11:19.000 Yeah, I don't want to go too into it.

02:11:23.000 What do you enjoy most?

02:11:25.000 I feel like if you talk about something too much, then you talk it away.

02:11:28.000 I understand.

02:11:29.000 Yeah.

02:11:30.000 You take away the magic of, like, he's going to do what?

02:11:33.000 Yeah.

02:11:33.000 Like, when it gets announced.

02:11:35.000 Yeah.

02:11:36.000 Do you enjoy doing these big things, or do you enjoy the live shows, or do you enjoy freaking people out, just random people out with magic?

02:11:45.000 It's like all of it.

02:11:47.000 So it's not like one specific thing.

02:11:49.000 I kind of love doing card tricks.

02:11:50.000 I love doing magic.

02:11:51.000 I love doing things from history.

02:11:53.000 I love looking.

02:11:53.000 Like the human aquarium guy, you know, the frogs and goldfish and some of that came from Houdini writing a miracle monger.

02:12:01.000 It's all about his acts.

02:12:02.000 So it's like you look into the history of things that have been done, like Haji Ali, the human fire hydrant, and you find these.

02:12:08.000 There's a great book that Ricky Jay wrote, who's an amazing magician, where he discusses and explains everything.

02:12:13.000 You learn all these things, put them together, and then What I do that Ricky thought was amazing and insane is like actually take these ideas that seem impossible but magical and that's what the amazing part is taking them from a hypothetical image and then learning how to do them.

02:12:32.000 So that's like what's amazing about the whole process to me.

02:12:36.000 In Ricky's book called Learn the Pigs and Fire Pigs, there's so many bizarre but amazing acts that exist in there, so it's like you look at them and you're like, no, that can't be real, but it was real, if you believe it was real.

02:12:47.000 How many of you are there out there?

02:12:52.000 I always think of stand-up comedians as being a very small group of people that kind of only understand each other.

02:12:58.000 There's a good amount of amazing magicians.

02:13:02.000 How many?

02:13:03.000 A thousand?

02:13:06.000 On the planet?

02:13:07.000 No, there's a lot of guys that are on me.

02:13:10.000 Yeah.

02:13:10.000 And there's different categories.

02:13:12.000 But the stuff that you're doing is not just magic.

02:13:14.000 What I'm saying is like...

02:13:15.000 Oh, like the crazy, bizarre, like mixing it all?

02:13:18.000 You're transcending magic. 0.99

02:13:20.000 You're going to this weird realm of what the fuck is he doing? 0.97

02:13:22.000 Well, the thing is I like to use the body as the prop. 0.98

02:13:25.000 So I like to figure out how to do things where like your body is magic.

02:13:28.000 And I think that comes from like I didn't have like...

02:13:31.000 You know a lot of many resources to like oh go get which is lucky because then I was like, okay, so what can I do with like what's around?

02:13:37.000 Okay an ice pick or a bunch of water or force you to be industrious.

02:13:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like you have to figure it out.

02:13:45.000 But you also have do you balance it out with like I mean you obviously develop some problems from not eating at one time and you know you've you've got these stunts where they have this possibility of physically injuring you permanently Yeah.

02:14:01.000 So you have to balance out the risks and the rewards.

02:14:04.000 There's not that many of those people out there.

02:14:06.000 I hope not.

02:14:08.000 No, that's what I'm saying.

02:14:09.000 I would worry about them.

02:14:11.000 But you don't worry about yourself.

02:14:13.000 Well, I think I'm careful.

02:14:17.000 I'm still like...

02:14:18.000 So we did 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. So it's five liters, basically.

02:14:25.000 So that's like a...

02:14:27.000 I think that's, in one shot, I think that's a record.

02:14:31.000 I don't think I've actually ever done that many.

02:14:33.000 You never drank that much water before?

02:14:34.000 I don't think so.

02:14:35.000 I usually cap it a gallon.

02:14:37.000 Well, it's dangerous, right?

02:14:39.000 You can die from drinking too much water.

02:14:41.000 The water intoxication means?

02:14:42.000 Yeah, but I think that's if you flush it out too much.

02:14:45.000 But...

02:14:46.000 When you combine that with other things, then it's dangerous.

02:14:49.000 Well, kids have done, like in fraternity, when they have to do those hazing rituals, they've died from drinking too much water.

02:14:59.000 There was a woman in San Jose? 0.72

02:15:01.000 Yeah, it is possible, of course.

02:15:02.000 It was San Jose, where she was on the radio, and there was a thing, like, how much water can you drink?

02:15:07.000 And she wanted to win an Xbox for a kid, and she died. 0.89

02:15:10.000 Yeah.

02:15:11.000 I think that's when your electrolyte levels get messed up.

02:15:14.000 Is that what it does?

02:15:15.000 Yeah.

02:15:16.000 So your water becomes, there's too much water in your system and your body doesn't know what to do with it.

02:15:22.000 Yeah.

02:15:22.000 That makes sense.

02:15:23.000 Yeah.

02:15:26.000 And it flushes out and puts the imbalance off on your electrolytes.

02:15:30.000 So when you do something like this, do you make sure that you consume a lot of electrolytes beforehand?

02:15:34.000 No, because I couldn't eat or do anything if you're going to do the frog.

02:15:39.000 And why is it important?

02:15:40.000 My friend told me, do not do the frog out here.

02:15:43.000 He said, it sounds gross.

02:15:44.000 I don't want you to have to do that because I'm going to have to listen to it.

02:15:49.000 It definitely does sound gross.

02:15:52.000 But you feel okay after drinking all that water that quickly?

02:15:55.000 Yeah, but I spouted it out.

02:15:57.000 That's true.

02:15:58.000 Most of it, right?

02:15:59.000 There's got to be a lot still in you.

02:16:00.000 Yeah, which is on purpose.

02:16:01.000 Yeah.

02:16:01.000 Jesus.

02:16:03.000 You're a weird man, David Blaine.

02:16:05.000 You really are.

02:16:06.000 That's what I was getting at when I'm saying there's not a lot of people like you out there.

02:16:09.000 I'm glad you're there.

02:16:11.000 I really am.

02:16:12.000 I'm glad you're out there, first of all, because I think you're very entertaining, but also because I love when there's a new type of person that I meet.

02:16:23.000 I've met a lot of people, but you're in this new, like, oh, and then there's this guy.

02:16:28.000 This is like a totally new frequency of human.

02:16:32.000 Or just freak.

02:16:34.000 Take out the Quincy. 0.95

02:16:36.000 Both.

02:16:38.000 But, I mean, it's a very strange path that you're on.

02:16:44.000 I mean, ultimately, it's like, at the end of the day, it's trying to just figure out how to make things seem as close to magic as possible.

02:16:53.000 And the process is really difficult and tricky and difficult.

02:16:59.000 But you seem like a very joyful person because of all this.

02:17:07.000 You clearly love what you do.

02:17:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:17:10.000 Yeah, that's why I do it.

02:17:14.000 No, you love it.

02:17:15.000 Yeah, that's what's interesting.

02:17:16.000 It's like such a strange thing to love to do. 0.53

02:17:21.000 No, but what you do is crazy.

02:17:23.000 I haven't done that in a long time.

02:17:26.000 But I'm saying that's crazy.

02:17:29.000 It is, maybe, but...

02:17:30.000 That's the same.

02:17:31.000 It's the same.

02:17:32.000 You're pushing your body to do things that most people...

02:17:35.000 Basically, you're living in a place where you have to override discomfort and you have to override what your body's trying to tell you not to do, and you push yourself.

02:17:45.000 And then...

02:17:47.000 And it's that whole journey of pushing yourself to do things that you physically don't think you can do or to set a goal that that's the best part.

02:17:56.000 I'm fascinated by people that are really far down on a path.

02:18:02.000 Have we ever brought up that woman Stephanie Millinger on the podcast before?

02:18:08.000 I follow her on Instagram and I know I've posted some of her stuff on Instagram, but she's like a contortionist and she has like incredible balance and core strength.

02:18:18.000 And she's this very small woman who does insane things with her body. 1.00

02:18:23.000 Like she did this one, she's on a handstand and she bends her back so that her butt touches her head. 1.00

02:18:29.000 Like her spine is so flexible that you look at some of the things that she does and they don't seem to be, like watch this, look at this.

02:18:38.000 Yeah.

02:18:38.000 That's crazy.

02:18:39.000 Watch how she does this. 0.99

02:18:39.000 And also she's bouncing on these posts, right? 0.99

02:18:43.000 So look what she does with her back. 1.00

02:18:45.000 Wow.

02:18:45.000 Look at that.

02:18:45.000 That is amazing.

02:18:47.000 Amazing.

02:18:48.000 Yeah.

02:18:48.000 And then she stands with one hand.

02:18:50.000 And by the way, she does this like off the side of cliffs and she's incredible. 0.99

02:18:55.000 Like look at the way her body is contorting. 1.00

02:18:58.000 Yeah, that's incredible. 0.98

02:19:00.000 She's pressing her butt. 1.00

02:19:02.000 Against the top of her head in the craziest way like it doesn't seem like a person should be able to do that and the amount of physical strength that it takes to move your body like this and Balance while you're doing it. 0.97

02:19:13.000 It's just It's the the years and the amount of time.

02:19:18.000 Yeah This is what I'm saying like she's so far down the path See if you can find the one where she bounces on the plates that one in the middle where you see the plate watch this So she takes a, this is like a standard Olympic weightlifting plate, right?

02:19:32.000 So she puts it down, so it's on its edge, and then she stands it on top of a bar, right?

02:19:40.000 So you've got this bar that's like a small chin-up bar.

02:19:45.000 So it's a round thing bouncing on another round thing.

02:19:49.000 That is amazing. 0.99

02:19:51.000 And then she lifts her whole body all the way up and over and does a handstand on this fucking thing. 1.00

02:19:58.000 I mean, she's amazing. 0.99

02:20:00.000 It's unbelievable.

02:20:01.000 And again, always smiling, always like joyful, loves this.

02:20:06.000 But the physical strength that it takes to do something like that and the kind of balance, that's what I'm talking about.

02:20:12.000 Like someone who's on this crazy path where if you asked someone, could someone do that?

02:20:17.000 You'd be like, no, your body doesn't work like that.

02:20:19.000 That's not how a body works. 0.91

02:20:20.000 But it does.

02:20:21.000 You just have to take these little baby steps for years.

02:20:25.000 And then you look back and you're in a different place.

02:20:27.000 And then also you find a version of it and then you figure out how to make it your own.

02:20:31.000 Yes.

02:20:32.000 It's like taking something and then made it like a whole new art, poetic thing.

02:20:40.000 Or like Cirque du Soleil.

02:20:42.000 I've seen most of the Cirque du Soleil shows. 0.99

02:20:46.000 Every time I go, I'm like, how the fuck? 0.99

02:20:48.000 How is that possible? 0.99

02:20:49.000 What are they?

02:20:50.000 They're aliens.

02:20:51.000 But they're on a path.

02:20:53.000 They're just really far down on this path of extreme dedication.

02:20:58.000 Extreme focus.

02:21:00.000 And that's what you're doing.

02:21:01.000 You're just doing it with bizarre physical feats and magic.

02:21:05.000 It's very interesting.

02:21:07.000 It's very interesting.

02:21:09.000 I'm really happy that you're around.

02:21:10.000 I really am.

02:21:11.000 I enjoy the fact that a person like you exists.

02:21:14.000 Oh, thank you, Jeff.

02:21:15.000 Thank you for being here, too, man. 0.74

02:21:17.000 I really enjoyed the fuck out of it.

02:21:18.000 It's very cool.

02:21:19.000 Very cool to talk to you, too.

02:21:20.000 I've been wanting to meet you for a long time.

02:21:22.000 My pleasure.

02:21:22.000 My honor.

02:21:23.000 Thank you very much.

02:21:24.000 Thank you.

02:21:25.000 So, one more time.

02:21:26.000 This will most likely be taking place August 31st.

02:21:29.000 We will let everybody know.

02:21:31.000 We'll put it on Instagram.

02:21:32.000 We'll put it on Twitter.

02:21:33.000 If there's any sort of a change, let me know and we'll let everybody know.

02:21:38.000 Great.

02:21:38.000 Thank you, brother.

02:21:39.000 Appreciate it, man.

02:21:39.000 Thank you, man.

02:21:40.000 Goodbye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - August 18, 2020

Joe Rogan Experience #1527 - David Blaine

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