The Joe Rogan Experience - December 06, 2022


Joe Rogan Experience #1906 - David Goggins

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Joe Rogan is a comedian, writer, podcaster, and all-around badass. In this episode, we talk about how he got to where he is now, what it's like to be a comedian and writer, and how to stay motivated to keep going when you don't feel like it. We also talk about why it's important to have a good night's rest and how important it is to get back up and running the next day, even if it means going to bed early and getting up at 4:30am. Joe also talks about why he doesn't like going on vacations and why he thinks it's a good idea to stay on the grind all the time. We talk about the value of taking a break and taking a mini vacation, and why you should do the same when you feel like you're feeling burnt out and need a push to get going. And we talk a little bit about how to deal with procrastination and how he's not a procrastinator. I hope you enjoy this episode and that it gives you some insight into what it means to be "uncomfortable" in your own headspace. Tweet me if you have any questions or would like to have Joe on the podcast. Timestamps: 1:00 - How do you stay motivated? 4:15 - How much time do you spend procrastinating? 6:30 - How often do you procrastinate? 7:00- What do you go to sleep? 8:00 9:20 - What are you going to do? 11:40 - What is the best thing you can you do to keep your headspace? 12:00sickest thing you do in a day? 13:30- What is your biggest weakness? 14:00 Is there something you're working on? 15:00 Do you want to do more? 16:00 What is something you re working on right now? 17:00 Does it help you get better? 18:00 Are you working on your day off? 19:00 Can you be a better person than someone else? 21:00 is he stronger than them? 22:00 How do they have a better than you're stronger than you? 23:00 You re not stronger than me? 26:00 I m not better than them 27:00 Why do you have a problem?

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00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day! 0.99
00:00:12.000 Yeah, you do a podcast every fucking day, man? 0.99
00:00:14.000 Pretty much. 0.99
00:00:15.000 This week, every day.
00:00:16.000 But I was just on vacation.
00:00:20.000 How was vacation?
00:00:20.000 It was nice.
00:00:22.000 Vacations are hard.
00:00:24.000 Even though I enjoy rest, I always feel like I shouldn't be.
00:00:30.000 Always.
00:00:31.000 I get it.
00:00:32.000 Do you go on vacations?
00:00:33.000 No.
00:00:34.000 Never?
00:00:34.000 No.
00:00:36.000 Nope.
00:00:37.000 For me, creatively, it's good.
00:00:39.000 It's good to get a reset, because I come back in guns blazing.
00:00:42.000 I don't risk any mental burnout when I do it.
00:00:46.000 Well, I have resets, but my resets are like, I call them aid stations.
00:00:51.000 Mental aid stations. 0.96
00:00:53.000 So when you're going fucking hard and you grind all the fucking time, Like everybody knows you're 24 hours in a day, but when I'm in the shower, it's a mental aid station. 1.00
00:01:02.000 I don't think about shit. 1.00
00:01:03.000 I don't fucking think about people. 1.00
00:01:05.000 I don't think about work. 1.00
00:01:06.000 I don't think about running.
00:01:07.000 I don't think about working out. 1.00
00:01:08.000 When I'm in the car, another fucking mental aid station. 1.00
00:01:12.000 When I'm fucking eating, mental aid station. 1.00
00:01:14.000 So people eat and they work and all that sort of shit, man. 1.00
00:01:17.000 So I can grind hard because a lot of times, man, I'm in mental fucking aid stations. 1.00
00:01:23.000 Chilling. 0.94
00:01:23.000 So you have little mini vacations. 0.94
00:01:25.000 Mini vacations, man.
00:01:26.000 All day long.
00:01:27.000 All day long.
00:01:28.000 Do you feel now almost a responsibility to stay at it all the time because so many people are watching and paying attention and drawing inspiration from you?
00:01:39.000 100%.
00:01:39.000 I mean, I probably would have retired a long time ago.
00:01:43.000 But I get these emails from people.
00:01:46.000 And it's like they're living through me.
00:01:50.000 Like, their strength comes through what they know I'm doing. 0.99
00:01:55.000 So there's so many times I want to get up and say, oh man, fuck it, I got mine, I'm good. 1.00
00:01:59.000 And I'm like, fuck, fucking Tommy out there, motherfucker. 1.00
00:02:04.000 Fucking Tommy talking about, Tommy talking about, he saved his life. 1.00
00:02:08.000 Man, I ran 10 miles last night because of you, man. 0.99
00:02:10.000 I'm like, you know, a lot of people can live off of that and they can fucking be good with that. 1.00
00:02:15.000 And, you know, a lot of motivational people come out here, man, and run their motherfucking mouths about shit. 1.00
00:02:20.000 And I know they are not doing shit. 1.00
00:02:24.000 They sit back and they're fucking like, you know, they have their little brainstorming sessions about, Oh, what should we say? 1.00
00:02:30.000 What's going to connect with people while they're sitting on their fucking ass? 1.00
00:02:34.000 My brainstorming sessions is fucking out there in the fucking grip of life, fucking grinding. 1.00
00:02:39.000 And that's where I think all my material comes from to suck. 1.00
00:02:43.000 Every bit of it comes from the suck. 0.98
00:02:46.000 And that's the difference between... 0.94
00:02:48.000 There's like a whole industry now that's dedicated to trying to help people get motivated.
00:02:53.000 And a lot of the people that are involved in that are very unqualified.
00:02:58.000 100%.
00:02:58.000 Because they're not really doing anything.
00:02:59.000 No.
00:03:00.000 There's so many people that haven't actually done anything, but they'll try to teach you how to get your life in order.
00:03:06.000 How to get your mind right and develop that warrior mentality. 0.99
00:03:10.000 I'm like, bitch, you don't have that. 1.00
00:03:12.000 Well, they're utilizing the weakness of the world right now. 1.00
00:03:14.000 The world's in a very bad place.
00:03:16.000 So these people who are like con artists, they sit back and say, oh, I can come up with this.
00:03:23.000 I can come up with this.
00:03:24.000 And this right here can probably make me some money. 0.98
00:03:25.000 So they're in it for fucked up reasons. 0.99
00:03:28.000 There's just not a whole lot of people like you. 0.97
00:03:32.000 I love that phrase, uncommon amongst uncommon men.
00:03:36.000 Because it's such a good phrase because it just shows you...
00:03:40.000 You've been on this path for so long, and you're grinding for so long, but you're also honest about there's moments where you don't want to fucking do this, which is why it's so interesting, because you do it.
00:03:55.000 Right. 0.84
00:03:55.000 You do it without any reservation. 0.84
00:03:58.000 You just go through it.
00:04:00.000 Right. 1.00
00:04:00.000 But you always talk about, I don't want to fucking do this shit. 1.00
00:04:02.000 But you always do it. 1.00
00:04:04.000 That's it.
00:04:04.000 But that's what people need to hear because they feel like that somewhere out there there's some superhuman person who never feels despair and doesn't have any...
00:04:14.000 There's no...
00:04:17.000 No hesitation.
00:04:19.000 They feel like there's this person that's so different than them and so much stronger than them and doesn't ever have any procrastination.
00:04:27.000 And you're like, that's not me.
00:04:29.000 No.
00:04:30.000 I love that phrase you told me once. 1.00
00:04:32.000 He goes, sometimes I look at my fucking shoes for half an hour before I put those bitches on. 1.00
00:04:36.000 It's a true statement. 1.00
00:04:38.000 But what I do though, man, is I came up with this thing called perform without purpose.
00:04:43.000 And so many people, they need to have a 5k, a 10k.
00:04:47.000 I need to have a course in front of me. 1.00
00:04:50.000 I need to have something in front of me for me to get my fucking ass up and do some shit. 0.99
00:04:56.000 And that used to be me. 1.00
00:04:58.000 And nowadays, you know, shit for the past 20 some years, I don't need fucking purpose. 0.99
00:05:03.000 And people miss out on this, man. 0.99
00:05:05.000 The purpose, we're all looking for this golden purpose.
00:05:08.000 Is it this?
00:05:09.000 Is it that?
00:05:09.000 Is it making money?
00:05:10.000 Is it my family? 1.00
00:05:12.000 Motherfucker, the purpose is you. 1.00
00:05:14.000 We forget that. 1.00
00:05:15.000 Every fucking day I wake up, and I don't want to do some fucking shit, I'm like, okay, man, do you want to be a bitch today? 1.00
00:05:21.000 Do you want to feel like a little bitch? 1.00
00:05:23.000 Do you want to walk around all day knowing that you could, but you didn't? 0.99
00:05:26.000 So it's performed without purpose. 0.99
00:05:29.000 You have to learn how to get up and do shit when you ain't got no fucking 5k, no 10k, nothing. 0.99
00:05:35.000 Nothing exists. 1.00
00:05:36.000 Your life fucking sucks. 1.00
00:05:37.000 You're in the fucking dungeon. 1.00
00:05:39.000 But guess what, motherfucker? 1.00
00:05:40.000 I'm still going to get it. 1.00
00:05:43.000 Because when that time comes, because the time is going to come.
00:05:46.000 When that purpose is there, you'll be ready.
00:05:49.000 But most of us fucking aren't ready because we don't know how to do without having the golden carrot in front of us. 0.52
00:05:56.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:05:56.000 And so you're all fucked. 1.00
00:05:57.000 There's also this thing where if you do it, once it's over, you get a break. 1.00
00:06:02.000 Oh! 0.60
00:06:02.000 Like, that's what a 10K is. 0.60
00:06:04.000 That's what a marathon is.
00:06:05.000 I'm going to train for this marathon.
00:06:06.000 And you're training, and you're training for that big day, but you're also recognizing when that marathon's over, ah.
00:06:12.000 That's right.
00:06:13.000 That's right.
00:06:14.000 And as you get better at that, ah, moment, The awe moment becomes less and less.
00:06:19.000 So my awe moments now are like, oh, I ran today.
00:06:22.000 I went to the gym today.
00:06:23.000 I did this and this today.
00:06:24.000 I studied today.
00:06:26.000 I have about eight hours off.
00:06:28.000 And those eight hours are glorious to me.
00:06:31.000 And every day you go back out and you start earning that. 0.99
00:06:33.000 And every day you wake up, it sucks.
00:06:36.000 And when it's over, you feel better. 1.00
00:06:38.000 It sucks. 0.74
00:06:39.000 You feel better. 0.94
00:06:40.000 And as you get going, every step you take in that journey, as you're like...
00:06:44.000 For me, I run every day. 0.99
00:06:45.000 I fucking hate it. 1.00
00:06:47.000 But every step I take, I'm like, all right, motherfucker. 1.00
00:06:49.000 You're beating the demon again. 1.00
00:06:51.000 You run every day, but I don't think people understand how fucked up your knees are. 1.00
00:06:56.000 No. 0.99
00:06:57.000 When you sent me that x-ray after your surgery...
00:07:03.000 And I looked at what they did to your knee, and I looked at what it looks like, what the actual bone-on-bone looks like, and how it had distorted because there's no cushioning at all. 0.98
00:07:16.000 And the doctor said to you, I can't even believe you could fucking walk on these knees. 0.97
00:07:20.000 Forget about run thousands of miles. 0.99
00:07:22.000 So you're doing this every day in constant pain.
00:07:27.000 What is it like?
00:07:29.000 Explain your knees, first of all.
00:07:33.000 People think that my knees are bad from a lot of running, and they're wrong.
00:07:38.000 I wasn't born healthy.
00:07:40.000 I wasn't born with some great body alignment.
00:07:43.000 I have sickle cell. 1.00
00:07:45.000 I have all kinds of shit. 1.00
00:07:46.000 I have all kinds of health issues. 1.00
00:07:49.000 I'm fucked up. 1.00
00:07:50.000 So I had a choice to make. 1.00
00:07:52.000 And the choice was, you know, growing up, you know, okay, this hurts, that hurts.
00:07:57.000 We can just sit down and do nothing.
00:07:59.000 Or we can see how far we can push the human body.
00:08:02.000 So on that journey, as I started getting more and more into my mind and start realizing that while what I'm capable of doing, my mind got stronger.
00:08:11.000 So the pain in my knees...
00:08:13.000 While it sucked, I've been doing it for so long.
00:08:17.000 It was like it became my new norm. 0.95
00:08:19.000 Like, okay, my knees hurt. 1.00
00:08:21.000 Fuck it. 1.00
00:08:22.000 And I call it like, stop feeling sorry for yourself. 1.00
00:08:25.000 But you sometimes have to ignore your feelings.
00:08:28.000 I'm gonna send Jamie a picture of your knee.
00:08:30.000 Oh, no, do it.
00:08:31.000 I think Jamie has some...
00:08:33.000 Do you have a picture of his knee, Jamie?
00:08:35.000 Did I ever send it to you, Jamie?
00:08:38.000 I have it here.
00:08:39.000 Hold on.
00:08:40.000 Let me just, but keep going.
00:08:42.000 No, so it's like, for me, I made a decision.
00:08:45.000 And my decision was to be the best person I could. 1.00
00:08:50.000 And I basically, a lot of mornings I wake up and say, fuck your feelings. 1.00
00:08:55.000 And that doesn't mean like, you know, don't take it literally, fuck your feelings. 1.00
00:08:59.000 But sometimes you have to go beyond what you're feeling. 1.00
00:09:03.000 And my knees were fucked, but guess what? 0.99
00:09:05.000 I wanted to run. 0.99
00:09:06.000 And I knew that, okay, you can get knee replacements, this and that.
00:09:08.000 Like I said, it wasn't because I ran too much. 0.98
00:09:11.000 People always want to say, oh, man, you ran so much, so you fucked up your body. 0.95
00:09:14.000 You know, you don't want to be like David Goggins. 0.98
00:09:16.000 I hear it all the time.
00:09:17.000 You don't want to be like David Goggins.
00:09:19.000 So there's your knee.
00:09:20.000 Yeah, there it is.
00:09:21.000 First of all, look at the fact that there's zero space between those bones.
00:09:26.000 Yes, sir.
00:09:27.000 From the top, from your tibia to your femur, there's zero space.
00:09:33.000 It's just kneecap covering two bones that are rubbing against each other.
00:09:38.000 And so this was after surgery where they had to cut your knee and Slice your shin like in half and then take a chunk out of it because it had deformed so much from you running with bone on bone that it was starting to like swell out in one direction and it was changing the alignment of your leg.
00:10:00.000 Right.
00:10:01.000 This happened back in 2000. 2001 was going through Buds.
00:10:05.000 So this happened for a long...
00:10:07.000 This right here has been going on for a long time.
00:10:10.000 And it got to a point where it's like, okay, I'm done.
00:10:15.000 And that's the playlist in there right now.
00:10:17.000 So as you see the wedge, That part right there in the bone, that's opened up.
00:10:21.000 Yeah.
00:10:21.000 So they had to cut it, realign it, and then now the alignment's better.
00:10:27.000 But this is now about 17 months ago, 17, 18 months ago when this happened.
00:10:31.000 So, yeah.
00:10:32.000 Couldn't I get some screws that fit?
00:10:34.000 Go back to that real quick.
00:10:35.000 With those real... 0.99
00:10:37.000 That one sticks right out of the fucking bone. 1.00
00:10:39.000 Hey, cut that shit off. 1.00
00:10:41.000 Yeah, fall that shit down. 1.00
00:10:42.000 Is that thing sticking in your leg? 1.00
00:10:44.000 No, I don't.
00:10:45.000 Well, I feel the plate every single time I move.
00:10:47.000 Yeah?
00:10:48.000 So every time, so because it's like connected to the hamstring. 0.84
00:10:51.000 So whenever I fucking, whenever I move, that plate is very irritating. 0.82
00:10:57.000 So every step, even like when I walk, when I run, it's just, it's this very irritating thing. 0.98
00:11:01.000 And then you gotta wait.
00:11:03.000 For so long for that leg to start getting back into place.
00:11:06.000 And if you see that other picture I sent of the foam, my foam leg that I put my hand in.
00:11:14.000 I think Jennifer sent it to you, Jamie, with the foam leg.
00:11:16.000 You'll see this in a second. 1.00
00:11:18.000 This is fucked up. 1.00
00:11:19.000 So like the swelling in that leg was fucking... 1.00
00:11:22.000 Nuts. 0.99
00:11:22.000 Oh, when you had edema? 0.99
00:11:24.000 Yeah.
00:11:24.000 You showed it to me in Vegas.
00:11:25.000 Yeah.
00:11:25.000 You were sticking your thumb into your...
00:11:28.000 I grabbed it.
00:11:29.000 Yeah.
00:11:29.000 Yeah, so it was pretty nuts.
00:11:31.000 But, you know, once again, it's just things I was willing to endure to get...
00:11:37.000 Yeah, I see it right there.
00:11:38.000 There it is.
00:11:39.000 So that's just all post-surgery swelling.
00:11:43.000 Yeah. 0.96
00:11:43.000 So when the doctor said this to you and he said, look, this is how fucked up your knee is, did he say you need a replacement? 0.96
00:11:52.000 What was he saying? 0.98
00:11:53.000 Basically, I had two options.
00:11:54.000 So I went to the first guy.
00:11:56.000 I had the surgery done.
00:11:57.000 That's in the book.
00:11:57.000 I talked about that.
00:11:59.000 But then the second guy, so after the first surgery, I was done.
00:12:02.000 So this is the first surgery after BUDS? No.
00:12:05.000 So this is like back in looking at 2000. So me and Cameron, this is recently.
00:12:11.000 So I didn't have any surgery going through BUDS. Really?
00:12:14.000 I didn't have any surgery at all.
00:12:16.000 So I went through in 2001. I fucked up. 0.99
00:12:19.000 2000, 2001, whatever it was, I messed up my leg real bad in Hell Week. 0.98
00:12:22.000 Kept on going on it.
00:12:23.000 Just kept on going.
00:12:24.000 What did you do to it in Hell Week? 0.73
00:12:26.000 It was like I fucked it up somehow, like running or whatever. 0.70
00:12:29.000 I have it and it can't hurt me.
00:12:31.000 But it was, I think the boat, I fell, it twisted.
00:12:36.000 But over a period of time, it just got worse and worse and worse.
00:12:38.000 So I was getting like toward all shots every day.
00:12:40.000 And then it just got worse. 0.99
00:12:42.000 But I'm like, fuck it, I'm good. 1.00
00:12:43.000 So I kept going on it. 1.00
00:12:44.000 So it kind of healed all fucked up. 0.97
00:12:46.000 So it just kept going, kept going, kept going. 0.86
00:12:49.000 Years later.
00:12:50.000 Years later, I just kept going on.
00:12:51.000 So I stopped squatting.
00:12:52.000 So it became like, okay, my knee's fucked up, my alignment's messed up, my hips are messed up, I can't squat. 0.72
00:12:58.000 So, but I can still run. 0.83
00:13:00.000 So, okay, I started running. 0.99
00:13:01.000 Because running doesn't require you to bend down and shit. 0.99
00:13:04.000 So I'm running a lot. 0.99
00:13:05.000 And it got to 20 years later, pretty much.
00:13:09.000 And it was 2020. I don't get this right.
00:13:13.000 Cameron Haynes came down.
00:13:15.000 We went for a 20-mile run. 0.98
00:13:16.000 My knees were fucked up for like 10 years. 0.98
00:13:19.000 Long story short, it was like, okay, man, I got to get this thing looked at. 0.99
00:13:23.000 So when we got looked at, the doc was like, oh, we can go in there and just do a quick little fucking, you know, cleanup job. 0.92
00:13:30.000 And the cleanup job wasn't so quick. 0.99
00:13:33.000 Guy was breaking tools and shit, fucking up, like literally broke tools. 0.98
00:13:37.000 And I have it in there. 1.00
00:13:38.000 He was breaking tools.
00:13:39.000 I talked to him.
00:13:40.000 I know.
00:13:41.000 He told me your meniscus was the hardest meniscus he's ever experienced in his life.
00:13:45.000 He's like, dude, he goes, I didn't know that meniscus could get that way. 0.67
00:13:50.000 He goes, like, he's not human.
00:13:52.000 He goes, when I was cutting into meniscus, it broke the scalpel.
00:13:55.000 Yep.
00:13:56.000 Wolf's lost something.
00:13:57.000 Wolf's lost something.
00:13:58.000 Yeah, he said normally when you cut in the meniscus, it just slices right through like butter.
00:14:04.000 He's like, I couldn't cut it.
00:14:05.000 Yeah, mine wasn't butter.
00:14:07.000 Mine wasn't butter. 1.00
00:14:08.000 So all those motherfuckers who think I'm gonna put in them hundred-hour weeks, go fuck yourself, bitch. 1.00
00:14:12.000 You don't get no shit like that, babe, I sit on the fucking couch. 1.00
00:14:15.000 No, I mean, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard. 1.00
00:14:18.000 Like, you've hardened your meniscus just through constant pressure and pounding.
00:14:22.000 Yeah.
00:14:22.000 So he went in there to clean it up, and then what happened?
00:14:25.000 So basically, that little meniscus, that whatever the fuck was in there, so my alignment was so bad, the only thing that was keeping me able to do anything was that little fucked up, messed up meniscus. 0.99
00:14:40.000 It was all jarred up and jacked up, but the second that thing got out, dude, It was like, have you seen Star Wars, those storm things, those big fucking things that, what are they called? 0.99
00:14:54.000 They have wobbly legs and they hit like logs. 0.92
00:14:57.000 The robot things?
00:14:57.000 Yeah, the robot things.
00:14:58.000 That's how my leg was.
00:15:00.000 It had nothing.
00:15:02.000 It was just like a little dangling.
00:15:04.000 So from my knee down, the shin, the tip, fib, it just dangled.
00:15:10.000 There was nothing.
00:15:11.000 And I was like, okay, man.
00:15:14.000 So it was worse after the cleanup?
00:15:16.000 Much worse.
00:15:17.000 I was done.
00:15:18.000 I went from running 200 miles to...
00:15:19.000 I did a 240-mile race.
00:15:22.000 In 2020, October 2020, it was Moab. 0.99
00:15:26.000 Went out there, got second place, 62 hours, knee was fucked up, getting it drained before the fucking race, but I still ran 240 miles. 0.98
00:15:33.000 Literally, five or six days before the race, I'm getting it drained. 0.99
00:15:37.000 And it was a baseball-sized fucking, it's called a Baker's Assist. 0.89
00:15:42.000 So they drained it, and I went in there and did the race. 0.98
00:15:45.000 Finished it, and I was like, okay, here we go.
00:15:47.000 Went on to do some more races.
00:15:49.000 I did like another 200-miler, did a couple more races, and then, like I said, a cam came down.
00:15:53.000 But after that, I went and got this surgery done. 0.99
00:15:55.000 And I went from running every day to now, I have some fucking legs that just dangles. 0.99
00:16:01.000 And after that surgery, it just fucking dangles. 1.00
00:16:04.000 And I was like, okay, man, I'm fucked. 0.99
00:16:05.000 It's just from that little piece of meniscus. 1.00
00:16:06.000 Just that little piece of meniscus.
00:16:08.000 And I'm sitting there thinking, okay, man, this doesn't make any sense to me. 0.99
00:16:12.000 There's something fucked. 0.98
00:16:13.000 I don't understand why. 0.99
00:16:14.000 I can't put any pressure on my leg.
00:16:17.000 The amount of blood they were taking out was unbelievable.
00:16:21.000 So there's the blood right there.
00:16:22.000 Jesus Christ.
00:16:23.000 That's the blood, dude.
00:16:24.000 Oh, my God.
00:16:25.000 It's one, two, three, four, five, six.
00:16:26.000 And you see the black blood?
00:16:28.000 Yeah.
00:16:29.000 That is deoxygenated blood. 0.99
00:16:31.000 So whatever was going on, whatever the fuck was going on. 0.90
00:16:35.000 That's why it looks different colors. 0.95
00:16:36.000 So the red blood is the blood that has oxygen.
00:16:39.000 That's right. 0.98
00:16:39.000 And that was just like coagulated, just fucked up blood. 0.98
00:16:43.000 Yep. 0.99
00:16:44.000 Jesus.
00:16:45.000 Yeah. 0.95
00:16:45.000 So after surgery, I'm like seven days out or whatever the fuck it was. 0.95
00:16:50.000 And once again, I don't know the exact times, but I have them in the book. 0.98
00:16:53.000 I have everything fucking dialed in. 0.99
00:16:56.000 I went back and I was like, man, I'm fucked up. 0.99
00:16:59.000 I mean, it's a simple meniscus surgery, man. 0.99
00:17:01.000 Like people go back a week later.
00:17:03.000 They're playing two weeks, three weeks, tops. 0.99
00:17:05.000 I'm like, man, I'm never gonna fucking run again. 0.99
00:17:08.000 I'm gonna walk with a fucking limp. 0.99
00:17:09.000 So I'm going back. 0.99
00:17:10.000 I'm getting fucking like, I'm literally getting my knee drained every week, getting PRP. I'm like, man, in the back of my mind, I know how far I can push myself. 0.91
00:17:19.000 I know my body so fucking well, so well.
00:17:23.000 And I'm like, this is wrong.
00:17:27.000 I'm never going to run again.
00:17:29.000 I'm never going to run again.
00:17:30.000 I walk with a limp.
00:17:31.000 So this went off about six months.
00:17:34.000 So I had the surgery done in February.
00:17:36.000 It was February, March, April, May, June.
00:17:41.000 About four months after the surgery, four or five months, I'm like, hey, Jennifer. 0.99
00:17:47.000 I gotta find somebody else to look at my fucking knee. 1.00
00:17:51.000 So I try to keep my shit together. 1.00
00:17:52.000 But imagine when you go from every day of your fucking life grinding, and you go to nothing. 1.00
00:17:58.000 Like literally, like 90 minute surgery, Done. 0.99
00:18:02.000 That's crazy that it was just a little meniscus scope.
00:18:04.000 90-minute surgery.
00:18:06.000 Done.
00:18:07.000 And I was like, okay, man, this is...
00:18:09.000 Anyway, so I found this guy named Dr. Gamal out of New York.
00:18:14.000 And we fly there, but I'm like, he can't fix this, man.
00:18:18.000 Because I knew it was a lot more than knees. 1.00
00:18:19.000 It was all kind of this fucked up body shit. 0.99
00:18:23.000 And I walk in the office and he decides to see me and me and Jennifer in there. 0.99
00:18:28.000 Jennifer's happy. 0.99
00:18:29.000 She's happy as shit. 1.00
00:18:30.000 It's like, oh my God, man, this guy's going to be able to get you a fucking meniscus replacement. 1.00
00:18:35.000 He was all kind of guru'd out. 0.99
00:18:38.000 But I'm a realist, bro.
00:18:40.000 I will push myself and I will go as far as I can.
00:18:43.000 But I also am a realist. 0.99
00:18:45.000 I also knew in the back of my mind, I'm not going to try to ruin your fucking party, Jennifer. 0.99
00:18:48.000 That's what I'm saying to myself. 1.00
00:18:50.000 But this shit's done. 1.00
00:18:51.000 It's over. 1.00
00:18:52.000 So I went just to pretty much appease her and just see if there's anything left.
00:18:58.000 So I walk in the office and the doc's like, yeah, I'm looking at your x-rays.
00:19:02.000 And that's the doctor who's like, I don't know how.
00:19:04.000 This is when Dr. Gamal looked him up. 0.99
00:19:07.000 World-renowned motherfucker, dude. 0.99
00:19:09.000 And when this guy looked at me, straight-faced. 0.99
00:19:12.000 He said, man... 0.99
00:19:13.000 I don't know how you did anything with those knees, anything, let alone run 200 miles back to back, 240 miles, whatever the fuck you did, I don't know how you did it. 0.99
00:19:24.000 And so I'm like, okay, whatever. 0.98
00:19:26.000 Can we get it fixed? 1.00
00:19:27.000 And he didn't want to get there because he knew I was fucked. 0.98
00:19:30.000 He's like, no, you know, we can maybe, you know, try an unloader brace. 0.98
00:19:36.000 Maybe an unloader brace will help you out.
00:19:38.000 What's an unloader brace?
00:19:39.000 So basically my knee went in on the meniscus side on the inside So it was like jamming on the inside.
00:19:45.000 So this brace kind of like it kind of helps realign the knee a little bit So then you cannot have so much pressure on the inside your leg So that's it right there.
00:19:54.000 Okay, so on one side.
00:19:54.000 Yeah, so basically I'm like man.
00:19:57.000 I'm like, okay.
00:19:58.000 I'm not So this is all you have for me. 0.97
00:20:01.000 I'm like you can't do shit for me and he was like um No. 0.98
00:20:06.000 And he was walking out of the office and he could tell. 0.99
00:20:08.000 I was like, I wasn't too fucked up, but I was like, because I kind of was preparing myself for the next part of my journey. 0.99
00:20:15.000 I don't like to lay in my shit too long. 1.00
00:20:17.000 And I gave myself a couple of minutes to say, okay, motherfucker, we got a man to fuck up. 1.00
00:20:21.000 We got to get back in this fucking... 1.00
00:20:22.000 What's next? 1.00
00:20:24.000 Let's go back to college.
00:20:26.000 Let's do something because you're running and your athletic career is done.
00:20:30.000 So he got to the door.
00:20:32.000 He opened it.
00:20:33.000 And as he was literally... 0.99
00:20:34.000 He was shouldered out the motherfucking door. 0.99
00:20:37.000 And I'm looking at Jennifer. 1.00
00:20:38.000 I'm like, well, we'll go back to fucking... 1.00
00:20:41.000 Go back to Nevada and fucking start again. 0.99
00:20:44.000 And he was like... 0.99
00:20:46.000 Try the unloader brace out and there's one more thing we could possibly do for you. 1.00
00:20:52.000 And I'm like, motherfucker, like, get your little monkey fucking ass back in here, bro. 1.00
00:20:57.000 Like, what is it? 1.00
00:20:59.000 Like, what the fuck's going on? 0.99
00:21:01.000 So he was like, yeah, there's this surgery called HTO. And he was like, you can go in, we can fucking, you know, pretty much break your tibia. 0.99
00:21:10.000 It's called high tibia osteotomy. 0.98
00:21:12.000 They go in and they break your tibia. 0.99
00:21:15.000 They like...
00:21:16.000 Slice into it and they wedge it to the point where they realign your leg back up.
00:21:22.000 It's a very painful surgery.
00:21:24.000 It's very painful afterwards. 1.00
00:21:26.000 Painful as fuck afterwards. 0.99
00:21:28.000 And they put that plate, the plate you saw, back on and then your leg is... 0.99
00:21:34.000 So your knee is still where it was because this doesn't get fixed.
00:21:37.000 So it takes several months for that knee to start working that way back into where that alignment is.
00:21:43.000 So now my leg is just now, so here it is.
00:21:46.000 You can see it on the image.
00:21:47.000 Yeah.
00:21:48.000 So they take a slice out of it because it's deformed.
00:21:52.000 Yep.
00:21:52.000 And that slice lowers the part that's deformed and tries to make it a more natural shape.
00:21:58.000 But you're still dealing with bone on bone.
00:22:02.000 So you're still dealing with the pain of arthritis, essentially.
00:22:07.000 Do you have any cartilage in your knees?
00:22:09.000 Not much.
00:22:10.000 Not much at all, if any.
00:22:12.000 So the thing about it, it takes that pressure off of that.
00:22:16.000 So it was complete bone-on-bone.
00:22:18.000 Right.
00:22:18.000 What that surgery does is it takes it over to the lateral side, so on the outside.
00:22:23.000 So I have a nice meniscus over there.
00:22:25.000 That thing wasn't touched for years because how I was born, all the pressure was on my Medial meniscus.
00:22:33.000 So your knee had been misaligned your whole life? 0.99
00:22:35.000 My whole life has been fucked up. 0.99
00:22:38.000 So my meniscus on my lateral side is pristine. 1.00
00:22:42.000 So now the way he did it is that all of my pressure is going on to that pristine meniscus.
00:22:49.000 So now it's all about getting that leg back aligned, which is taking forever.
00:22:54.000 And it's still not aligned?
00:22:56.000 It's getting there.
00:22:57.000 It's getting there.
00:22:57.000 Yeah, it's getting there.
00:22:59.000 Can they do a meniscus replacement on you?
00:23:02.000 No.
00:23:03.000 So that's what I wanted to get done.
00:23:04.000 But if your knee is so far gone, like mine was, there was no option for that.
00:23:10.000 Why is that?
00:23:10.000 Because my knee was so far gone.
00:23:12.000 So it was like, when you put that meniscus in there, however it works, he said, it wouldn't have taken it. 0.99
00:23:16.000 Like basically, yeah, it wouldn't have taken it, but it would have fucking destroyed it because your knee is so fucked up. 0.99
00:23:21.000 So this was the only option for me. 0.99
00:23:23.000 Don't they make like an artificial meniscus now as well?
00:23:26.000 Yep, and that's what this guy really specializes in.
00:23:30.000 So he's like the guy to go to for that stuff.
00:23:32.000 What does an artificial meniscus consist of?
00:23:35.000 I guess it's just, I have no idea. 1.00
00:23:37.000 I'm not even going to get into that shit. 0.99
00:23:38.000 See if we can find out what that is, because I got some fucked up knees too. 0.99
00:23:41.000 Not like yours, though. 0.99
00:23:43.000 If I ever think about complaining, I'll look at yours.
00:23:45.000 Yes, sir.
00:23:46.000 World's first artificial meniscus available in Israel.
00:23:50.000 And there you go, Andreas Gamal.
00:23:52.000 Yeah, there he is.
00:23:53.000 And so this, it looks like some sort of a clear gel-looking stuff, which is, you know, the meniscus is just a cushioning in between the two bones and the cartilage.
00:24:05.000 And this is, oh, look at that.
00:24:07.000 Yep.
00:24:09.000 Hmm.
00:24:11.000 But they can't do that to you?
00:24:13.000 No, you have to be a good candidate for that.
00:24:14.000 So your knee has to be in a certain condition.
00:24:18.000 And mine was not in that condition.
00:24:20.000 If you were a candidate for that, would they be able to do it and you'd be able to run?
00:24:24.000 Or is that just like to move around and walk?
00:24:27.000 From what I read about, you can run, you can do everything you want to do, but sometimes if you do a lot, it wears it out.
00:24:33.000 But you could get a new one.
00:24:34.000 Get a new one.
00:24:35.000 Yeah.
00:24:36.000 Well, it's not that bad.
00:24:37.000 It's not that bad, man.
00:24:38.000 But for you, it doesn't work.
00:24:39.000 No, because basically it wouldn't even work for me because my knee was gone.
00:24:43.000 But the way he reshaped it, wasn't that correct?
00:24:47.000 I mean, he kind of like changed your alignment of your knee and made it more normal, right?
00:24:52.000 I think he made it more normal, but from what I understand, if you put that in there, like structure-wise, what makes it more normal is the surgery he did.
00:25:03.000 So right now, there's no bone-on-bone for me.
00:25:06.000 So there's no need for that meniscus at all.
00:25:09.000 So a lot of people get their meniscus taken out if you have the right alignment and your body can do what it's supposed to do.
00:25:14.000 Really?
00:25:15.000 Yeah.
00:25:15.000 But if you get your meniscus taken out, you're just cartilage on cartilage?
00:25:19.000 If you know Dwayne Wade, Dwayne basketball player, I believe Dwayne Wade played years, years, if I'm correct, with no meniscus.
00:25:29.000 Yeah.
00:25:30.000 I think in both his knees.
00:25:32.000 Jesus.
00:25:32.000 Yeah.
00:25:33.000 Years.
00:25:34.000 He ended up having, like, really bad knee problems, but his meniscus was messed up.
00:25:38.000 Back in the day, they used to take it out.
00:25:40.000 So if you look here...
00:25:42.000 Here it is.
00:25:42.000 When I was in college.
00:25:44.000 Wow.
00:25:44.000 Surgery to remove the meniscus in his left knee 11 years ago while he was at Marquette led to ongoing knee problems he's had with Miami Heat.
00:25:52.000 I'm so glad that you have this fucking thing to pull up, Jamie, because I would be talking out of my ass half the damn time. 0.99
00:25:57.000 That's what I do. 1.00
00:25:58.000 Man, you fucking screw me away, bro. 1.00
00:26:02.000 Knees are a problem, man. 1.00
00:26:03.000 Yeah.
00:26:04.000 And the fact that you require your knees to do what you do.
00:26:08.000 Like, your whole thing is endurance athlete.
00:26:13.000 Right.
00:26:13.000 And to be an endurance athlete, you gotta be able to move your legs.
00:26:16.000 Gotta be able to move them. 0.98
00:26:17.000 But what I like about, and this was literally a trained skill for me, was I'm always preparing for not being a bitch. 0.99
00:26:28.000 A lot of people get to a point, for instance, if Jennifer can't do something, if she can't go for a run or whatever, just because something's wrong, like some simple shit, it's going to bother her. 0.95
00:26:41.000 I got to a point in my life where I realized this is life. 0.64
00:26:44.000 And so I move on past things real quick.
00:26:46.000 So people are like, oh my God, what are you going to do, David, if you can't run? 1.00
00:26:51.000 Motherfucker, I'll swim. 1.00
00:26:52.000 Or I'll go to college or I'll do something else. 1.00
00:26:55.000 This isn't my life. 0.99
00:26:57.000 So I'm very aware how quick life can take shit from you. 0.95
00:27:03.000 And I've always prepared my mind for the next chapter. 0.97
00:27:07.000 And what happened with me was I started this thing called front-loading. 0.99
00:27:11.000 So when I was young, I used to be a little piece of shit. 0.99
00:27:13.000 You know, like, fucking, oh, I'm not good enough. 1.00
00:27:15.000 I can't do this. 1.00
00:27:16.000 I can't do that. 1.00
00:27:17.000 But the second I got my head out of my ass, and I realized, man, you can achieve a lot of shit if you get off your ass and you start moving and you start motivating yourself, start becoming a self-motivator. 1.00
00:27:28.000 So I started front-loading. 1.00
00:27:30.000 And front-loading is, people are like, man, you've done so much by 47. Because I don't know what tomorrow is going to bring me.
00:27:36.000 So my military resume is fat. 0.98
00:27:39.000 You know, I fucking did a lot in the military. 0.99
00:27:41.000 I did a lot outside the military. 0.98
00:27:43.000 I've made money.
00:27:45.000 I've done almost every race out there, a hard race in the world.
00:27:48.000 I've broken pull-up records. 1.00
00:27:50.000 I've done a lot of shit. 0.99
00:27:50.000 So when these bad times come, and also, not only that, work your ass off so you can enjoy. 0.99
00:27:57.000 Yeah, you're taking a shot.
00:27:58.000 You know, you may not live to be old, but what if you do? 0.99
00:28:03.000 And you worked your ass off when you were able, and you were able to fucking get up early, able to grind. 0.99
00:28:08.000 If you front-loaded properly, the back half of your fucking life is money. 0.99
00:28:13.000 And that's what I did. 1.00
00:28:14.000 The second I realized that, man, you are a piece of shit, we gotta get going. 1.00
00:28:19.000 Because at 47, man, you're not gonna be able to do any of this shit. 1.00
00:28:22.000 50, whatever you are. 1.00
00:28:23.000 So I front-loaded.
00:28:24.000 So all these bad things that have happened to me, I sit back and go, man, how are you handling this so well? 1.00
00:28:30.000 Motherfucker, I've done it. 0.99
00:28:32.000 I front-loaded. 1.00
00:28:33.000 I have the money I need.
00:28:34.000 I have the success I need. 0.98
00:28:35.000 I have the fucking determination, the willpower, and also the pride in myself. 0.99
00:28:39.000 So when I wake up every morning, I know who the fuck I am. 0.99
00:28:42.000 I front-loaded perfectly. 0.99
00:28:44.000 So I don't care what's taken from me.
00:28:46.000 But it's got to still, it's got to be a strange position to be in where your body is your medium.
00:28:53.000 The body is the vehicle for you to express yourself.
00:28:56.000 Right.
00:28:56.000 And your body's breaking down.
00:28:58.000 And I know that they consider doing knee replacements on you too.
00:29:02.000 Yep.
00:29:03.000 Yep.
00:29:03.000 And what was that conversation like?
00:29:05.000 It was very basic, man. 0.98
00:29:06.000 It's like, hey, you know, you're not going to be able to do some of the shit that you've done, even though, obviously, people are. 0.98
00:29:11.000 But that was a conversation. 0.96
00:29:13.000 And I know it sounds weird.
00:29:15.000 It was totally fine with me.
00:29:17.000 It was fine because I had...
00:29:18.000 Dude, people don't understand.
00:29:20.000 This wasn't like a part-time job.
00:29:24.000 Man, when you've done without...
00:29:26.000 Like Kobe Bryant. 1.00
00:29:27.000 When Kobe fucking retired that last game, he had like 60 points or some shit. 0.99
00:29:30.000 He walked off the court. 0.99
00:29:31.000 He didn't fucking cry. 0.99
00:29:33.000 He didn't say, my God, I'm going to miss the sport. 1.00
00:29:35.000 What the fuck? 1.00
00:29:35.000 He walked off. 1.00
00:29:36.000 He gave everything he could. 1.00
00:29:39.000 Man, when you fucking give what I've given, and motherfuckers like to say, oh, fuck you. 1.00
00:29:44.000 You don't fucking know shit. 1.00
00:29:46.000 Which makes me who I am. 1.00
00:29:48.000 I've given everything. 0.99
00:29:49.000 People make, oh, you ran on fucked up knees. 0.99
00:29:51.000 You taped your feet up. 1.00
00:29:53.000 You had two heart surgeries.
00:29:55.000 You kept on going.
00:29:56.000 Yep.
00:29:57.000 Sure did. 0.98
00:29:58.000 I had somewhere to fucking go. 0.99
00:30:00.000 I had somewhere to fucking go and I got there. 1.00
00:30:03.000 And buddy, when motherfuckers tell you, you can take a break now? 1.00
00:30:07.000 Hey, you're fucked up? 1.00
00:30:08.000 As long as my knees are halfway working, I got to run. 1.00
00:30:11.000 You're telling me maybe a chance I can't run no more?
00:30:14.000 Hmm. 0.99
00:30:15.000 Give me an excuse to fucking not do shit, but as long as I have no excuse, I got to do it. 0.99
00:30:19.000 But I was happy where I was. 0.99
00:30:21.000 I gave everything.
00:30:22.000 I gave everything to who I am.
00:30:24.000 That's why I don't believe that.
00:30:27.000 Don't believe it.
00:30:28.000 I gave everything.
00:30:29.000 And when you give everything, man, you have no regret.
00:30:32.000 People didn't understand me.
00:30:34.000 People don't understand me now. 0.99
00:30:34.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.99
00:30:36.000 I know exactly what I was doing. 0.99
00:30:38.000 I'm not a masochist.
00:30:39.000 I'm not crazy.
00:30:40.000 I'm not this and that.
00:30:41.000 People try to title me and label me.
00:30:42.000 No. 0.97
00:30:43.000 I had something to fucking do. 0.97
00:30:46.000 Well, the way I describe it to people when people ask me, like, why does he do all these things? 0.98
00:30:50.000 What is the motivation here?
00:30:52.000 I go...
00:30:53.000 He's on a mental journey that very few people have ever been on Because the what people don't understand you they or they misunderstand you or they purposely misinterpret the way you're living your life You're trying To understand your mind in a way that very few human beings ever get to understand their mind.
00:31:18.000 Because you're taking your mind into these terrible dark places all the time and you're trying to pull things out of that.
00:31:27.000 You're trying to learn things about yourself and about your potential from that.
00:31:32.000 That's exactly it.
00:31:33.000 And that's what people don't understand.
00:31:34.000 I study the darkness. 0.99
00:31:36.000 You find no fucking answers in the light. 1.00
00:31:40.000 None. 1.00
00:31:40.000 It's too happy. 1.00
00:31:41.000 It's too nice.
00:31:42.000 We don't need to be taught how to live in happiness.
00:31:45.000 That just comes naturally to us.
00:31:48.000 Happy moments, but the dark times, man.
00:31:50.000 And you can't get there unless you put yourself there.
00:31:53.000 Life will take you there.
00:31:54.000 But when you get into those dark moments, that's why people...
00:31:58.000 How are you able... 0.97
00:31:59.000 I couldn't fucking read and write until I was a junior in high school. 0.99
00:32:02.000 How are you able to write like this, man? 1.00
00:32:04.000 Motherfucker... 1.00
00:32:06.000 I go to such places in my mind, and I study the darkness. 1.00
00:32:11.000 Like, it's not just physical. 0.99
00:32:13.000 When I was growing up, and I saw my mom getting beat, and I got beat, and I was some stuttering little black kid in all-white school, and I'm on stage, and I gotta say one line, one fucking line in front of fucking 15 people, and I walk off stage, I'm gonna fucking stutter. 0.99
00:32:28.000 All those insecurities and all those fucking things, man. 0.99
00:32:31.000 I used to go home and fucking cry. 1.00
00:32:32.000 I'm like, God, man, I'm fucked up. 1.00
00:32:34.000 I'm so fucked up. 1.00
00:32:36.000 Hang on, man. 1.00
00:32:37.000 As I got older, we got to study this shit, man. 1.00
00:32:40.000 The only way we're going to fucking get through this is if we study it. 1.00
00:32:42.000 So every time I'm in a dark moment... 0.98
00:32:44.000 And life's fucked up around me, whether it be physical or just life. 1.00
00:32:48.000 I get in it, man, with a fucking pen and paper. 1.00
00:32:51.000 I'm like, okay, this fucking sucks. 1.00
00:32:53.000 I can feel like I'm fucking losing my shit. 1.00
00:32:55.000 Let's fucking study this. 1.00
00:32:56.000 Let's come out of this motherfucker a genius. 1.00
00:32:59.000 You know, I studied the black matter of the mind. 1.00
00:33:04.000 The dark matter, you know, like fucking Stephen Hawking. 1.00
00:33:07.000 That's fucking his name. 1.00
00:33:08.000 I said it right. 1.00
00:33:09.000 That motherfucker studied the space and shit. 1.00
00:33:12.000 That's where I consider myself, man. 1.00
00:33:14.000 I was on a journey, just like you said.
00:33:16.000 You couldn't have said it any better.
00:33:19.000 And so many people get it wrong. 1.00
00:33:20.000 I don't give a fuck, man. 1.00
00:33:21.000 You can't. 0.99
00:33:22.000 For me, I cannot help people. 0.99
00:33:24.000 There's a lot of cookie cutter shit out here in this world. 0.99
00:33:27.000 Oh, discipline. 1.00
00:33:29.000 Wake up early.
00:33:30.000 Take cold shower. 1.00
00:33:31.000 Fuck this. 1.00
00:33:32.000 Fuck that. 1.00
00:33:32.000 Whatever. 1.00
00:33:33.000 It's all fucking bullshit. 1.00
00:33:35.000 It's not. 1.00
00:33:36.000 But what they don't teach you within the cookie cutter is like our minds are like a fucking garage. 0.99
00:33:44.000 And the garage, if you open a garage and it's all cluttered up, it's all fucked up, you can't put your car in there. 1.00
00:33:50.000 You got fucking boats and you got fucking kids' toys and shit everywhere. 0.99
00:33:53.000 But if you organize that fucking garage and you put everything in its rightful spot, you can pull that car in there. 1.00
00:34:00.000 You can put two cars in there. 0.99
00:34:01.000 You can put bikes in there.
00:34:02.000 And that's like with the mind. 1.00
00:34:03.000 People talk about discipline and fucking determination and fucking, you know, repetitions and all this shit. 1.00
00:34:10.000 Consistency. 1.00
00:34:12.000 Why people fall off the wagon so often is because their mind is full of shit. 1.00
00:34:17.000 There's no room in that mind for discipline. 1.00
00:34:20.000 There's no room for consistency. 1.00
00:34:22.000 They may do it once or twice, but then the mind takes over and that cluttered fucking garage comes in. 0.99
00:34:29.000 And then it's like a circuit breaker, man. 0.99
00:34:31.000 A circuit breaker just overloads and it fucking sparks. 0.99
00:34:34.000 And our minds, that's our mind, man. 1.00
00:34:36.000 It's like a fucking circuit breaker that has so much shit in it, you keep unloading it, you can't put any more into it. 1.00
00:34:42.000 So, I talk about it in there, man, so much about clearing space in your fucking mind so that you have room for all those discipline, waking up early, taking those, because they do mean something, but we don't get to that fucking dark matter that is keeping you from clearing out that mental garage. 1.00
00:35:03.000 That's a good way to put it. 0.98
00:35:05.000 Because that is the mind of most people is filled with stuff that they have to move around to get to what they want. 0.97
00:35:12.000 And it's constantly piling up and shit unorganized. 0.98
00:35:17.000 Organized mind, man. 1.00
00:35:18.000 You're looking at fucking, I got to take care of the kids. 1.00
00:35:20.000 The kids' schedule is all fucked up. 1.00
00:35:21.000 My husband, my wife, you know, I'm going by McDonald's to get this and I'm rushing my schedule. 1.00
00:35:28.000 Everything's just fucked. 0.98
00:35:29.000 I wish I was doing this, but I'm doing that. 1.00
00:35:31.000 That's it.
00:35:31.000 And that and this.
00:35:32.000 I want a raise, but I can't get one.
00:35:34.000 That's it. 1.00
00:35:34.000 I boss the asshole. 1.00
00:35:36.000 Where's greatness in that, man? 1.00
00:35:37.000 You can't fit discipline into that.
00:35:40.000 You can't fit structure.
00:35:41.000 You can't fit consistency.
00:35:43.000 You can't fit the grind. 1.00
00:35:44.000 And then when you try, it just gets fucking overrun by the fucking clutter in your fucked up mental garage. 1.00
00:35:53.000 When you are in these dark places and you're gathering up these lessons... 0.99
00:35:59.000 How difficult is it to try to bring that back and convey it to people when you're not in that space?
00:36:07.000 Like when you're in that space, when you're in the Moab 240 and you're going uphill and you're in the middle of the- it's just deep suck.
00:36:16.000 How do you convey where that mental fortitude comes from?
00:36:21.000 How do you bring that back?
00:36:23.000 It's almost like you've got something you can't even hold in your hand and you want to show it to people.
00:36:28.000 I take snapshots.
00:36:30.000 So every time I'm in a bad situation, I study it. 1.00
00:36:34.000 And that's the only reason I do have the shit I do, is I'm studying this shit. 0.99
00:36:39.000 Because I know that... 0.99
00:36:40.000 I never thought I was going to be writing books and trying to help people get better. 0.92
00:36:45.000 But I was always trying to do it because I knew I sucked. 0.98
00:36:50.000 And so when you know you're trying to get somewhere, you know you suck, you know that you believe that you're a born loser, you are taking snapshots, man. 0.99
00:36:57.000 Like, you know, you see something on your phone, like, oh man, I'm going to take a fucking snapshot of that, or however you do the little picture shit so you can save it on your phone. 0.99
00:37:06.000 I do that in my mind. 0.99
00:37:07.000 So when I get in these moments, I'm like, fucking, okay, wow, that's some fucking good knowledge right there, man. 0.97
00:37:12.000 I snapshot it, because I know that I can use that later. 0.98
00:37:16.000 I can use this because I'm not out there just...
00:37:18.000 I'm not...
00:37:19.000 Most people, they go out and they run.
00:37:21.000 And they go out and they do...
00:37:22.000 And they're like, oh, this is beautiful. 1.00
00:37:24.000 Look at the fucking mountains and the shit and all this bullshit. 1.00
00:37:27.000 No. 1.00
00:37:28.000 I don't like it.
00:37:29.000 My body hurts.
00:37:30.000 I'm hurting.
00:37:31.000 How do we get through this? 0.99
00:37:33.000 And it's a fucking... 1.00
00:37:34.000 It's a lab. 1.00
00:37:36.000 It's my mental lab.
00:37:38.000 And so when I come home, I'm not forgetting it.
00:37:41.000 Every day I get done running or every day I get through work and every day I get through studying, whatever it is that brings me to that place of knowledge, I come home and that book was mostly written on a scratch piece of paper in hand.
00:37:54.000 So I come home from running and I write everything out.
00:37:57.000 I write everything out, all those things.
00:37:59.000 And as I'm running, I'm talking about it.
00:38:03.000 So all these things that pop in my head as I continue to run, I'm going through it.
00:38:07.000 I'm starting to layer it down.
00:38:09.000 I'm starting to break it down into, okay, that happened.
00:38:12.000 Okay, now let's layer this.
00:38:14.000 Because that's just not how it happened.
00:38:16.000 It just didn't happen that way.
00:38:17.000 What led up to this?
00:38:18.000 And so it becomes me by myself in school.
00:38:22.000 I'm literally going to school right now and I'm learning.
00:38:25.000 So when I come home, I write it out. 0.99
00:38:27.000 And then I'm able to write out and I'm able to think about it and say, okay, oh, this is good shit. 0.98
00:38:31.000 This will help me later on. 0.96
00:38:34.000 And then it becomes what it is now.
00:38:37.000 And when you try to convey it to people, when you're writing it out and when you're talking about it, what are you thinking?
00:38:45.000 Are you thinking that this is going to get into someone's mind and this is going to help them motivate themselves?
00:38:50.000 Are you just trying to express yourself and let them do with it what they can?
00:38:55.000 I'm them.
00:38:57.000 You're them.
00:38:57.000 I'm them.
00:38:59.000 And this fucked up thing about me, why I'm able to do it the way I'm able to do it, I'm not above them. 0.87
00:39:05.000 I was never above them. 0.77
00:39:06.000 A lot of people write where they are.
00:39:09.000 They write where they are. 1.00
00:39:10.000 Oh, yeah, like fucking you right now writing. 1.00
00:39:13.000 You have a good life, man. 1.00
00:39:15.000 You have a fucking good life. 1.00
00:39:17.000 I don't write from that place. 1.00
00:39:19.000 I write from the place that I am, the place that created who I am.
00:39:24.000 I go back to that place.
00:39:26.000 I call it going back to scratch.
00:39:27.000 I can't write about David Goggins.
00:39:30.000 Now, David Goggins now is a success.
00:39:32.000 People want to get to be, to feel whatever success is for them.
00:39:37.000 They want to feel that.
00:39:38.000 So I can't write it here at David Goggins Successful. 0.99
00:39:41.000 I must write at David Goggins, fucking man, I'm a fucking, I don't feel good about myself. 0.99
00:39:48.000 And every day I go through that journey. 0.99
00:39:49.000 So that's where it comes from.
00:39:51.000 It comes from scratch. 0.99
00:39:53.000 All that shit, all my knowledge comes from going back to where the real growth, growth doesn't happen. 0.99
00:40:00.000 When you make it so far in life, you make it so high up to whatever it is, whatever you're trying to be, there's no more growth. 0.99
00:40:06.000 There's small growth. 0.85
00:40:08.000 But you remember back when you fucking tried to become Joe Rogan you are now. 0.95
00:40:12.000 How much growth was in that? 0.98
00:40:14.000 Tons of growth.
00:40:16.000 Learning.
00:40:16.000 Lessons learned.
00:40:17.000 So I go, I always revisit. 0.99
00:40:18.000 That's why I'm a fucking wildland firefighter now. 0.99
00:40:22.000 Why I'm a fucking smoke jumper. 1.00
00:40:23.000 I don't need to do that shit. 1.00
00:40:25.000 At all. 1.00
00:40:26.000 But I don't learn anything from where I'm at now.
00:40:29.000 There's no knowledge up here. 0.99
00:40:30.000 The knowledge is down there in the fucking muck. 0.99
00:40:33.000 So that's where I write. 0.99
00:40:34.000 That's where I go back.
00:40:35.000 That's where I learn.
00:40:35.000 I always go back to school.
00:40:37.000 I always go back to the basics.
00:40:39.000 I always go back to first grade.
00:40:42.000 And how much of that is tied to doing things physically, though?
00:40:48.000 There's a certain kind of physical struggle that you go through, particularly with what you excel at, which is endurance athlete work.
00:40:57.000 There's a mental and physical thing that happens when the two of them are together.
00:41:02.000 It doesn't happen in anything else.
00:41:04.000 You can do hard work, hard mental work, And it's very difficult.
00:41:08.000 And I'm sure you can learn a lot from that.
00:41:10.000 But it doesn't have the physical pain that comes with the suck of endurance work.
00:41:17.000 Yes.
00:41:18.000 There's nothing in the world that you're able...
00:41:21.000 I'm able to get...
00:41:22.000 Let's say that Moab 240 I was in.
00:41:25.000 62 hours. 1.00
00:41:28.000 Fucking sucked. 1.00
00:41:29.000 It's just... 1.00
00:41:31.000 With blown out knees.
00:41:32.000 Blown out knees.
00:41:33.000 Literally, a few days before the race, I'm getting drained.
00:41:38.000 Before the race. 1.00
00:41:39.000 So, that's in your fucking mind, man. 1.00
00:41:42.000 It ain't like, oh, I show up to start line, oh, this is fucking great. 1.00
00:41:45.000 I'm gonna fucking have a good time out here. 0.99
00:41:46.000 No, I'm thinking, alright, I said my fucking knees drained. 0.99
00:41:50.000 Like, I'm in pain at mile zero. 1.00
00:41:54.000 And that's in your brain.
00:41:55.000 I have 240 miles ahead of me.
00:41:58.000 And there's nothing in life.
00:41:59.000 Nothing in life.
00:42:01.000 This is why I love endurance sports so much.
00:42:03.000 I love it and I hate it.
00:42:04.000 It's a love-hate relationship. 1.00
00:42:06.000 62 hours, I equate that to fucking seven years of life. 1.00
00:42:14.000 You can't get that, man. 0.98
00:42:15.000 So what I know that Ultra does for me is it packs in.
00:42:19.000 It packs in.
00:42:21.000 I can't live several lifetimes.
00:42:24.000 I can't.
00:42:26.000 Because the knowledge I need to gain for this life I live in today, I need two or three or four lifetimes to be where I want to go. 0.88
00:42:34.000 Ultra gives it to me in fucking high definition real fast. 0.99
00:42:39.000 62 hours, you go out there and fucking suffer? 0.99
00:42:42.000 You come back, oh, that was 62 hours. 1.00
00:42:45.000 I gained seven fucking years of knowledge. 0.99
00:42:48.000 The ups and downs, the pain, the suffering, the... 1.00
00:42:51.000 You learn how to chunk this shit down like, oh my God, man, I'm at mile 100. How the fuck am I going to get to mile 118? 0.99
00:42:58.000 Everything becomes, you start to learn life out there and you learn so much in such a condensed period of time and nothing in the world can do it like pushing yourself to the absolute limit. 0.94
00:43:12.000 I call it like, so people have talent.
00:43:17.000 People have a lot of talent.
00:43:20.000 And this is going beyond your talent.
00:43:23.000 So when talent, when there's no more talent, what happens to you?
00:43:28.000 Most people quit.
00:43:30.000 People only go to their talent level.
00:43:32.000 And once their talent level is gone, it becomes a mental game.
00:43:36.000 The whole mental game sets in then.
00:43:39.000 And most people can only perform to their talent.
00:43:42.000 And they realize, man, why am I always messing up right here?
00:43:45.000 Hmm.
00:43:45.000 Why is this my big hurdle?
00:43:51.000 It's because you're performing to your talent.
00:43:55.000 And then after that, your mind has nothing for you.
00:44:00.000 Nothing for you. 1.00
00:44:02.000 I see fighters, I see runners, I see people who they're great, but they get to the edge of their talent and it's like, fuck man, what's up? 0.99
00:44:13.000 Because you're now at the point now where your talent ain't gonna do shit for you, my friend. 0.99
00:44:19.000 Now it's the mental game. 0.57
00:44:22.000 And that's where people get lost in life, get lost in that next level.
00:44:26.000 And that next level is found for me in the things that I do.
00:44:30.000 I'm just misunderstood.
00:44:31.000 That's a giant problem with fighters.
00:44:33.000 Yep.
00:44:34.000 There's many fighters.
00:44:35.000 It's a talent problem.
00:44:36.000 Elite level in the gym.
00:44:37.000 Mm-hmm.
00:44:38.000 But when they get tired and when they get pushed and when they get into that, when the world starts narrowing and the walls start closing in and they can't see peripherally anymore and they're exhausted and they start making mistakes.
00:44:53.000 So all of their understanding of what to do next gets clouded because they're thinking about quitting.
00:44:59.000 They're thinking about being exhausted.
00:45:01.000 When am I going to get a break?
00:45:02.000 How much do I have left in the tank?
00:45:04.000 Can I even push forward here?
00:45:07.000 Or will I gas out and risk getting stopped?
00:45:10.000 And that is exactly what you said goes on in the human mind when you have a talent problem.
00:45:17.000 That's exactly what goes on in your mind. 0.98
00:45:19.000 So how are you gonna fucking defeat that, bro? 1.00
00:45:21.000 You're sitting there getting beat the fuck down by a motherfucker that's on you. 1.00
00:45:26.000 Fucking just throwing you down, take down, take down, take down, hit in the face, hit in the face. 1.00
00:45:30.000 And all that's going through your mind is what you just fucking said. 1.00
00:45:34.000 There's no positivity in that. 0.99
00:45:36.000 But when you train the mind the way I train mine, fucking ready, man. 0.98
00:45:41.000 Fucking ready because, first of all, I didn't have much talent. 0.99
00:45:44.000 So I had to train one fucking thing. 1.00
00:45:46.000 You better train your fucking mind because my talents could run out way early. 1.00
00:45:50.000 When shit got hard for me back in the day, bro, I'm done. 1.00
00:45:52.000 I'm out. 0.99
00:45:53.000 See ya.
00:45:54.000 Okay. 1.00
00:45:55.000 I gotta invent a motherfucker that can. 0.99
00:45:57.000 So I invented Goggins. 1.00
00:45:59.000 I invented a motherfucker that realized we're not good enough. 1.00
00:46:04.000 But Goggins realizes we're mentally strong as fuck. 1.00
00:46:08.000 And we're gonna out-strength these motherfuckers in the mind. 1.00
00:46:11.000 There's a big understanding in fighting that sometimes talent is a curse. 0.99
00:46:20.000 Because some people are very talented and they just don't work as hard.
00:46:25.000 You know, Khabib Nurmagomedov talks about that.
00:46:28.000 And he's one of the greatest mixed martial arts fighters of all time.
00:46:32.000 For sure.
00:46:32.000 One of the rare guys to retire undefeated.
00:46:34.000 But he's like, talented guys don't work hard enough.
00:46:37.000 No.
00:46:38.000 It was like, talented guys, the problem with talented guys is they can get by early.
00:46:43.000 They're like faster than people.
00:46:45.000 Maybe they just have a better understanding or better coordination.
00:46:48.000 Some people just, you know, we're not even.
00:46:52.000 Like people are not even in their abilities when it comes to sports.
00:46:55.000 Some people are just very gifted.
00:46:57.000 Yes.
00:46:58.000 But gifted fighters in particular...
00:47:01.000 There's something about it where a lot of them never realize their full potential.
00:47:07.000 Because they don't develop that mental game that you're talking about.
00:47:10.000 They don't have to.
00:47:11.000 Because they could piece people up on the outside, they win fights easy, they stop a bunch of people in the first round, they look like a hero.
00:47:18.000 But then when someone comes along that can survive that first round and then start dragging them into hell.
00:47:24.000 That's right.
00:47:25.000 And that's what you said. 1.00
00:47:27.000 When you drag a motherfucker into hell who's a demon, you're in a long race. 1.00
00:47:32.000 And they're hard. 1.00
00:47:33.000 People with a talent problem who are so talented, they're hard to train.
00:47:39.000 They're hard to push.
00:47:40.000 If you're their coach and you're trying to get them to see that we got to get you past this talent problem, we got to get you to the point where you're into that mental zone.
00:47:51.000 Because we got to get you way past your talent.
00:47:53.000 And it's hard for coaches to take these fighters or whoever Past your talent, and on the other side of that is where they gain true, true levels.
00:48:04.000 The levels beyond talent, that's where it really is. 0.99
00:48:08.000 Because if you're able to take a motherfucker down to the deep end, while a motherfucker's just putting his toe in, fueling the water and shit, if a motherfucker's in the deep end, he'll be able to take you down there, and he's mentally strong, it's over. 1.00
00:48:19.000 It's over, man. 1.00
00:48:20.000 Because they live in the deep end.
00:48:22.000 They live in it, man.
00:48:24.000 They thrive in it.
00:48:25.000 It's almost like you have to have the ability to go to the deep end no matter whether or not you'll ever go there.
00:48:32.000 Right.
00:48:32.000 Yes.
00:48:33.000 And some people are like, well, I'm never going to go to the deep end.
00:48:36.000 But you should be able to.
00:48:37.000 Yes.
00:48:39.000 100%.
00:48:39.000 You have to be trained to do it.
00:48:41.000 You have to be trained for it.
00:48:42.000 When that time comes, you're like, okay, I'm deep in qualified.
00:48:46.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:48:47.000 I am deep in fucking qualified. 0.99
00:48:48.000 I got my fucking deep in certification. 0.98
00:48:51.000 But you know what's interesting about this book is you talk about how there was moments, even though you're clearly deep-end qualified, clearly deep-end certified. 0.97
00:49:00.000 Yes, sir.
00:49:00.000 You took some time, and you hadn't been a deep-end for a while, and you're like, I'm kind of a part-time savage now.
00:49:06.000 That's right. 1.00
00:49:06.000 This is kind of bullshit. 1.00
00:49:07.000 And you're recognizing it in yourself, even though you know your ability, you know your history, you know what you've been capable of doing in the past. 1.00
00:49:15.000 You're like, but I haven't been there.
00:49:16.000 Nope.
00:49:17.000 I haven't been there in a while.
00:49:18.000 And you had to go back.
00:49:19.000 What's funny about that part-time savage thing in there, man, where I fucking totally dogged myself because it's the truth.
00:49:25.000 All this became nice. 1.00
00:49:27.000 Waking up, motherfucker. 1.00
00:49:29.000 Baking an egg, motherfucker. 1.00
00:49:31.000 Fuck protein shake, early morning shit. 1.00
00:49:34.000 And I stopped having those hard conversations with myself. 1.00
00:49:40.000 Boy, my whole life. 1.00
00:49:41.000 That's why my friends hate my ass, boy. 1.00
00:49:43.000 Because I'm hard on me. 1.00
00:49:44.000 If I'm hard on me, I don't give a fuck about you. 0.99
00:49:47.000 I don't give a fuck about what you think. 1.00
00:49:49.000 I don't give a fuck if you think about me and nothing else. 1.00
00:49:51.000 Hard on myself, bro. 1.00
00:49:52.000 Every morning I woke up, all right, motherfucker. 1.00
00:49:54.000 I call it my morning meeting. 1.00
00:49:56.000 My morning meeting, we all have these fucking meetings all fucking day long. 1.00
00:50:00.000 We go to work. 1.00
00:50:01.000 We're working for somebody else.
00:50:03.000 They want a meeting because they want to be successful. 0.91
00:50:05.000 So we all sit our ass down, try to make them better, try to make them more money, try to make them more powerful. 0.94
00:50:10.000 We don't do that for ourselves. 0.97
00:50:11.000 Every morning I wake up, I used to. 0.99
00:50:13.000 I had to get back into it again because in that chapter, you see, I became a little bitch. 0.99
00:50:18.000 That morning meeting, I wake up, okay, Goggins, what did you do fucked up yesterday? 0.99
00:50:22.000 Where were you at? 0.97
00:50:23.000 And I just go through and analyze my life.
00:50:26.000 And then I went through a period of time there, man, where I stopped having those conversations.
00:50:29.000 You know how you...
00:50:30.000 Let's say you and your wife go out. 0.81
00:50:32.000 Let's say...
00:50:32.000 I don't know.
00:50:34.000 Let's make up a story here.
00:50:35.000 You and your wife go out and you see your cousin. 1.00
00:50:38.000 And your cousin's fat as fuck. 1.00
00:50:40.000 I don't know if they are or not. 1.00
00:50:41.000 Hopefully not.
00:50:42.000 If they are, apologize.
00:50:43.000 Maybe.
00:50:45.000 So they go out and you see your cousin. 1.00
00:50:47.000 She's fat as fuck. 1.00
00:50:48.000 He's fat as fuck, whoever. 1.00
00:50:50.000 And... 1.00
00:50:52.000 You guys get back in the car and you guys, man, you see motherfucking Mary Jo? 0.99
00:50:56.000 How fat she was? 1.00
00:50:57.000 That's what we do.
00:50:59.000 We go back and the hard conversation that you should be having with Mary Jo. 0.99
00:51:02.000 Hey Mary Jo, you fucking gained some weight, huh sister? 1.00
00:51:05.000 Fucking kind of big. 1.00
00:51:06.000 That's what I do to myself. 0.99
00:51:08.000 A lot of people that we see all day long, we see them.
00:51:11.000 We don't have the hard conversation with them. 0.99
00:51:13.000 We walk around, I'd rather you fucking hate me and get better than like me and stay the same. 0.99
00:51:19.000 And that's how I feel about David Goggins. 1.00
00:51:22.000 Motherfucker, I hate you, David. 1.00
00:51:25.000 But I get better from it. 1.00
00:51:27.000 I get better from it.
00:51:28.000 And that's why when people see me and I know you, you're in my little foxhole. 1.00
00:51:32.000 If you're in my foxhole and you become a piece of shit, hey, come here, brother. 1.00
00:51:37.000 Let me talk to you real quick, brother. 1.00
00:51:39.000 People don't like that shit, man. 1.00
00:51:40.000 But I'm not going to allow you to go to a place that's going to be hard to get out of. 1.00
00:51:46.000 It's gonna be hard. 0.99
00:51:48.000 If I allow you to gain five more pounds, or allow you to take four more days off of school, or allow you to keep on procrastinating in your fucking life, and I see it, and I tell Jennifer behind your back, I'm doing you no fucking justice. 0.99
00:52:01.000 Zero justice. 1.00
00:52:02.000 So where this world is now, you can't say a motherfucking thing. 0.99
00:52:07.000 I do. 0.98
00:52:08.000 I still do and I always will.
00:52:10.000 Don't like me.
00:52:11.000 Don't like me.
00:52:12.000 I'm good with that. 0.96
00:52:14.000 That's exactly what's going on with like fat models. 1.00
00:52:18.000 That's it.
00:52:18.000 I'm proud.
00:52:19.000 People are like, you're beautiful no matter what.
00:52:22.000 But that's not true.
00:52:23.000 And the thing about it is I have no problem if you want to be fat.
00:52:28.000 I have no problem with anybody. 0.99
00:52:29.000 If you want to be whatever the fuck you want to be. 1.00
00:52:32.000 But make sure you fucking, if you're fat, motherfucker, go be fat. 1.00
00:52:36.000 Go be real fucking fat. 1.00
00:52:37.000 But let's be real. 1.00
00:52:38.000 Nobody wants to be fat.
00:52:39.000 Nobody does.
00:52:40.000 That's why I said it, man.
00:52:41.000 Nobody does.
00:52:42.000 That's not true.
00:52:42.000 They will pretend.
00:52:43.000 I'm fine with it.
00:52:44.000 But if I could give you a button that you could push and poink.
00:52:48.000 Be skinny.
00:52:48.000 All of a sudden you'd have this incredible body.
00:52:50.000 Yep.
00:52:51.000 Everybody would push that button.
00:52:52.000 But what happens is, man, we get in this world where it gets hard.
00:52:55.000 Yeah.
00:52:56.000 And so the harder it is, the more you start to push back.
00:53:02.000 And the more you push back and it's not right for people to talk about. 0.88
00:53:05.000 It's not right for like, let's say you are fat.
00:53:08.000 I was fat.
00:53:09.000 That's why I talk about it. 1.00
00:53:11.000 Go ahead and say something, motherfucker. 1.00
00:53:12.000 I was fat too. 1.00
00:53:13.000 And it was hard as fuck every fucking day to get up. 1.00
00:53:15.000 I know what it feels like when you roll your fat ass out of bed and all you want is some fucking damn cinnamon buns and shit and fucking chuck and milkshakes. 1.00
00:53:23.000 I know what it is. 1.00
00:53:24.000 I know exactly what it is.
00:53:26.000 But I can't want it more than you.
00:53:29.000 And so many people just want it the easy way.
00:53:33.000 I'm sorry, man.
00:53:34.000 It's not.
00:53:35.000 So what they start to do is they build this narrative.
00:53:39.000 It's okay. 0.99
00:53:40.000 When the narrative should be, you need to fucking work harder. 0.99
00:53:44.000 You need to fucking discipline your mind better. 0.99
00:53:47.000 We need to help people more than just saying it's okay. 0.99
00:53:52.000 It's okay that you're not fucking willing to fucking help yourself out. 0.96
00:53:56.000 That's not okay. 0.99
00:53:57.000 It's not okay.
00:53:58.000 It's not acceptable.
00:53:59.000 Even though it's your life, if that's acceptable, that's unacceptable.
00:54:04.000 And there's a lot of people in this world, me included, that if I accepted that, I wouldn't be anywhere. 0.98
00:54:10.000 So, yeah, a lot of people just fucking, they start creating a narrative about themselves that make it okay. 0.98
00:54:17.000 The ultimate get out of jail free card. 0.99
00:54:19.000 And now the world is set up to have so many get out of jail free cards.
00:54:23.000 Everything is okay. 0.98
00:54:24.000 And you can't say a motherfucking thing about it. 0.98
00:54:27.000 This is what, it's interesting though, is that when you're talking about how you had to come to this realization that you'd become a part-time savage, this isn't recently. 0.98
00:54:38.000 Yeah, you're looking at 2018?
00:54:45.000 Yeah.
00:54:45.000 Not that long ago.
00:54:47.000 No, fuck no. 0.99
00:54:48.000 Yeah, so even though you've been through all those things and you have all this information in your head, it's like there's no rest. 1.00
00:54:55.000 No.
00:54:56.000 You never get a chance.
00:54:57.000 And if you do take a little time and start enjoying it, all of a sudden that general in the back of your head is like, hey, hey, look at what you're doing.
00:55:05.000 Exactly. 1.00
00:55:06.000 You're being a little bitch. 1.00
00:55:07.000 And so in your mind, you had gotten soft. 1.00
00:55:11.000 Oh, 100%.
00:55:11.000 And my softness was still two days.
00:55:15.000 So if you look in there...
00:55:16.000 Two a days was you being soft.
00:55:18.000 My part-time savage was me running like 50 miles a week. 0.99
00:55:22.000 Me fucking not... 0.96
00:55:23.000 You know, because what I used to do, and what I do now, is I got to a point, I'd be running, and I was like, okay, man, we could do 10 miles today. 1.00
00:55:32.000 I get to 10 miles, but I'm like, oh, no, motherfucker. 1.00
00:55:35.000 That fucking demon that I let out every fucking morning that walks the streets at night, he comes saying, oh, bitch, not today, man. 1.00
00:55:42.000 There's somebody out there that you don't know, have never fucking met in your entire life that is doing 12, 13, 14. You're going to do another one. 1.00
00:55:51.000 And when you meet them, You ain't gonna be fucking ready. 0.98
00:55:55.000 So Goggins kept on running. 0.98
00:55:58.000 So you talk about that and you talk about how Cam came to visit you in Vegas and gave you a spot check.
00:56:03.000 Oh yeah.
00:56:04.000 Oh yeah. 1.00
00:56:04.000 I'm always ready for a motherfucker like Cam. 1.00
00:56:06.000 I'm always ready for a motherfucker like Cam. 1.00
00:56:08.000 So out of nowhere, dude, this guy calls me, literally. 0.99
00:56:11.000 And this is one thing about life.
00:56:13.000 This is why you always must be ready.
00:56:16.000 Always be ready.
00:56:17.000 Never get ready.
00:56:19.000 People go, oh hey, what are you training for, David? 1.00
00:56:21.000 I ain't training for shit. 1.00
00:56:23.000 When something pops up, I'll be fucking ready. 0.99
00:56:25.000 So when Cam popped the fuck up, and Cam calls, hey man, I'm gonna be in Las Vegas. 0.98
00:56:31.000 You gonna go for a run? 0.90
00:56:33.000 Sure do.
00:56:35.000 Sure do, brother.
00:56:36.000 Sure do.
00:56:37.000 While the run sucked, I was ready.
00:56:40.000 Well, you guys were doing like six-minute miles for like 26 miles.
00:56:43.000 It was 20 miles, and Jennifer was with us. 0.99
00:56:47.000 And so Jennifer can run her fucking ass off. 1.00
00:56:49.000 She's fast as shit. 1.00
00:56:51.000 So we went out. 1.00
00:56:52.000 But she's not a six-minute mile runner. 1.00
00:56:55.000 So we went out for the first ten, and Jennifer was with us.
00:56:57.000 She was with us for the first seven.
00:56:59.000 She turned around.
00:57:00.000 I think she did like 15 miles. 0.71
00:57:01.000 So me and Cam went out after we left Jennifer.
00:57:04.000 She went back for another three to go out and get ten and come back ten. 0.99
00:57:08.000 But my whole idea was, I know the course, bitch. 1.00
00:57:11.000 I'm about to drop your fucking ass, motherfucker. 1.00
00:57:15.000 So we go out because going out... 1.00
00:57:18.000 Is a little bit as old, I think it was a little bit uphill.
00:57:24.000 No, a little bit downhill.
00:57:25.000 A little bit downhill.
00:57:26.000 So a little bit downhill.
00:57:27.000 So we turn on a 10-mile mark, come back.
00:57:29.000 And I could tell Cam was hurting, boy. 1.00
00:57:31.000 But Cam's a prideful motherfucker, dude. 1.00
00:57:34.000 Prideful motherfucker. 1.00
00:57:35.000 Love that dude. 1.00
00:57:35.000 So we get to about mile 16, 17. And I could tell now, he kind of comes off my shoulder slightly. 1.00
00:57:43.000 And I'm like, oh, chink in the armor. 0.94
00:57:46.000 Yeah.
00:57:47.000 I feel it. 1.00
00:57:48.000 You know, you're always kind of looking out of your peripheral vision, but I'm like, this is a prideful motherfucker, man. 0.99
00:57:55.000 And we keep on going, man, holding sixes. 0.99
00:57:58.000 We get to about mile 18. I look.
00:58:00.000 Cam's right back on the shoulder.
00:58:02.000 I just smiled. 1.00
00:58:03.000 I said, you are exactly who the fuck I thought you were, motherfucker. 1.00
00:58:07.000 And so we went out, tested each other, man. 1.00
00:58:10.000 Good day.
00:58:10.000 Went to the gym.
00:58:11.000 Worked out hard.
00:58:12.000 Went and got some steak.
00:58:13.000 Same day. 0.98
00:58:14.000 Saying, oh, we fucking worked it out, dude. 1.00
00:58:16.000 Whenever we meet him and together, you can guarantee it's going to be two people that love each other, but are waiting for the other motherfucker to break. 0.99
00:58:26.000 100% dude. 0.99
00:58:27.000 It's like this thing in the back of your head.
00:58:29.000 Okay, maybe this will break them.
00:58:31.000 Maybe this will break them.
00:58:32.000 So we haven't broken each other yet, but I'm sure the day will come.
00:58:36.000 So you run 20 miles and then you lift weights.
00:58:39.000 But see, lifting weights, people don't get it, man.
00:58:41.000 It's not like lifting weights.
00:58:43.000 It's like, you know, we go and do like so many reps.
00:58:48.000 People go, oh, you're only doing 90-some pounds on the incline. 0.98
00:58:53.000 Motherfucker, do five sets of 25 with a superset of push-ups, superset of curls, superset of pull-ups, superset of triceps, superset of... 1.00
00:59:03.000 What the fuck else was it? 1.00
00:59:04.000 I forget what else. 0.98
00:59:04.000 It's a superset, man. 0.98
00:59:06.000 So we're going through lifting lightweight, but for massive, massive amounts of reps.
00:59:11.000 And so you're, like, totally swollen.
00:59:13.000 And, like, it's just some of the best workouts in the world between me and him.
00:59:17.000 Some of the best workouts in the world, man.
00:59:19.000 And then you had steak.
00:59:21.000 And then we had steak.
00:59:22.000 That's right.
00:59:22.000 And then I treat Cam to a steak.
00:59:25.000 Right.
00:59:25.000 And that's a mental aid station.
00:59:27.000 Oh, yes.
00:59:28.000 Mental aid stations, baby.
00:59:30.000 I think one of the most important parts about the way you express yourself in your books is that you do talk about your weaknesses, and you do talk about your past and how you started off on this journey, and you talk about how there are those moments that you doubt, but you still go.
00:59:47.000 Oh, yeah.
00:59:48.000 Sometimes, like, you know, you got called an audible.
00:59:52.000 You know, the line of scrimmage, man, like some of the great quarterbacks, they'll be at the line of scrimmage and they'll look at the defense. 1.00
00:59:58.000 The defense is, oh, fuck. 1.00
01:00:00.000 Defense is shifting. 1.00
01:00:01.000 Did he call an audible?
01:00:03.000 In my mind, a lot of times, man, I'm like, it doesn't mean I quit.
01:00:07.000 I don't quit.
01:00:08.000 You know, I may not make it the first time, but I'll come back.
01:00:12.000 I gotta call an audible. 0.98
01:00:14.000 I gotta fucking get my head back in the game. 1.00
01:00:17.000 I gotta figure this shit out. 0.99
01:00:19.000 It doesn't mean you leave. 0.99
01:00:21.000 It means you study it more.
01:00:22.000 It means you study it more.
01:00:24.000 And whenever I fail at something, people always say, man, how do you handle failure, man?
01:00:28.000 I fail a lot, dude. 0.98
01:00:29.000 I fail all the fucking time. 0.99
01:00:31.000 They go, how do you handle it? 0.99
01:00:34.000 What I'm trying to do, and this isn't being arrogant, man.
01:00:37.000 It's being real.
01:00:39.000 Not many people are trying to do. 0.98
01:00:41.000 So there's not many people who can even open their fucking mouth and criticize me when I do fail. 0.98
01:00:48.000 Because I'm trying to do shit, man, that many people aren't trying to do. 0.99
01:00:52.000 But I don't look at failure as failure. 0.98
01:00:53.000 I look at failure as your first, second, third, fourth, fifth attempt.
01:00:58.000 I look at them as attempts.
01:01:00.000 I don't look at anything as failure.
01:01:02.000 Because when you're willing to try to do something, not trying is failure. 0.83
01:01:07.000 And that's not some after school special shit, but when you're able to go out there, there is no failure. 0.89
01:01:12.000 It's attempts. 0.96
01:01:14.000 Because when you're trying to do something that's bigger than you, whatever you are, whoever you are, if you're paralyzed, you're trying to walk one step, and you didn't. 1.00
01:01:22.000 You didn't fail, motherfucker. 1.00
01:01:23.000 That was your first attempt. 1.00
01:01:25.000 If that's your biggest thing, that's how your mindset needs to go into everything. 0.98
01:01:30.000 So I don't look at it as, failure is a big word that gets people down and shit. 0.89
01:01:34.000 We give so much power to words. 0.93
01:01:36.000 I don't.
01:01:37.000 I take the power right away. 0.99
01:01:38.000 I didn't fail shit. 0.98
01:01:40.000 Do you ever have conversations with Cam about mindset? 0.99
01:01:44.000 No, we really don't go there too much at all about mindset. 0.99
01:01:48.000 Whenever we get together, it's really about breaking the motherfuckers down. 0.98
01:01:53.000 Wouldn't you be interested, though, in how he approaches? 0.98
01:01:56.000 Because I don't know if everybody shares your approach.
01:02:00.000 I know there's not very many people like you.
01:02:02.000 Cam is one of them.
01:02:03.000 How many of them are like you?
01:02:06.000 And how many of them have that sort of similar approach?
01:02:08.000 And how many of them are willing to discuss their own demons?
01:02:13.000 Because a lot of people that are super endurance athletes or very hard people, they don't ever want to even discuss the weakness.
01:02:20.000 They don't want to shine any light on it.
01:02:22.000 No, people hate that.
01:02:23.000 People hate it, man.
01:02:24.000 And I love it.
01:02:25.000 And the reason why people hate it, to me, this is just my own theory, is because you haven't beat it.
01:02:31.000 That's why.
01:02:32.000 People go, man, why are you so open and vulnerable? 0.99
01:02:35.000 I'll tell you everything I lied about, everything I fucked up with. 0.98
01:02:38.000 I'll tell you everything. 0.99
01:02:39.000 I'm an open fucking book. 1.00
01:02:41.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00
01:02:42.000 The only reason why I don't give a fuck anymore is because I overcame it and I beat it. 0.99
01:02:49.000 So now I'm going to talk about it. 0.99
01:02:50.000 Why most people aren't willing to go to that darkness and that vulnerability is because they're still dealing with it. 0.98
01:02:57.000 When people who have overcome it, they're open fucking book, bro. 0.94
01:03:00.000 Because they're proud. 1.00
01:03:03.000 They're fucking proud. 0.99
01:03:04.000 That's why I speak... 0.99
01:03:04.000 Man, why are you always yelling? 0.99
01:03:05.000 Fuck you. 1.00
01:03:06.000 That's how I talk, bitch. 1.00
01:03:07.000 Because I'm proud, motherfucker. 1.00
01:03:08.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00
01:03:09.000 I'm a proud motherfucker, man. 0.99
01:03:10.000 And it's not proud like, look at me. 1.00
01:03:12.000 It's like, motherfucker, I know where I fucking came from, bitch. 1.00
01:03:16.000 I shouldn't be here right now talking to you. 1.00
01:03:19.000 Shouldn't be talking to you, motherfucker. 1.00
01:03:21.000 I shouldn't be here. 1.00
01:03:21.000 I'm just a fat, sloppy motherfucker. 1.00
01:03:23.000 I'm proud. 1.00
01:03:25.000 So I'm able to tell you, I was fucked up. 0.99
01:03:27.000 Many people can't. 0.98
01:03:29.000 You know that's a common thing that people say when I interview them after fights?
01:03:34.000 Like, I'm not supposed to be here, this is not supposed to happen to me.
01:03:38.000 There's a common thing when I've had conversations with people, You know, they've won a big fight.
01:03:44.000 They've had this big event.
01:03:45.000 Right.
01:03:46.000 They say, I wasn't supposed to be here.
01:03:48.000 Right.
01:03:49.000 Statistically.
01:03:50.000 Like, Chris Gutierrez just said that last UFC fight when I interviewed him.
01:03:54.000 It's like, I'm not supposed to be here.
01:03:56.000 Right.
01:03:57.000 Probably because they come from a bad place. 0.57
01:03:58.000 Exactly.
01:03:59.000 You know, they...
01:04:00.000 And when you're in a bad...
01:04:01.000 Especially when you're young.
01:04:02.000 You know, we develop self-esteem.
01:04:05.000 You know, by the age of seven... 0.98
01:04:09.000 If you're not good by the age of seven or eight years old, you have a good chance of being fucked the rest of your life. 0.98
01:04:15.000 So if you're parents or you came up wrong, and then seven or eight, if you don't have the self-esteem, but you fucking grind, you're like, I want to be better. 0.99
01:04:24.000 When you get to that UFC championship, or you get to where I got, or where I am, It's almost like you can't believe the journey like I talked about in that fucking VFW and I'm in the first chapter that book man I'm sitting in that audience all those fucking people and I'm about to get the you know Americanism award and I was grinding so hard I never took time to reflect on my life and this was like Time to reflect and I was all kind of fucked up and I got on stage man just fucking cried for like 59 0.98
01:04:54.000 seconds and And it was such an emotional moment for me that I fucking, that I fucking did what I did. 0.97
01:05:01.000 And I overcame it. 0.95
01:05:02.000 And it was, it was alone, man. 0.98
01:05:05.000 You know, a lot of people have fucking like teammates and fucking like, you know, family push. 0.99
01:05:09.000 My mom was struggling, bro. 0.99
01:05:11.000 She was struggling.
01:05:12.000 So it was like me and my mom.
01:05:14.000 And so it was a lot of just me. 0.92
01:05:16.000 So when you're waking up every morning by yourself and you're fucking getting after it by yourself and it's the hidden work. 0.99
01:05:24.000 People see a one minute video of me running and shit. 0.98
01:05:27.000 And like these fighters, you know, they see during the fight or after the fight. 1.00
01:05:32.000 They don't see these motherfuckers, man, what they deal with every fucking day. 1.00
01:05:37.000 I'm not good enough. 1.00
01:05:38.000 I'm not good enough.
01:05:39.000 I shouldn't be here.
01:05:39.000 I shouldn't be here.
01:05:40.000 Because every day, even though they're fucking the best in the world, That little motherfucker at seven or eight years old is still in there saying, oh man, we don't have something. 1.00
01:05:48.000 We're not good enough. 1.00
01:05:50.000 We shouldn't be here. 1.00
01:05:51.000 So you're always fighting that motherfucker. 1.00
01:05:53.000 Even though you beat it, you never truly beat it. 1.00
01:05:56.000 So when they get on stage and they're talking to Joe Rogan, it's not even real.
01:06:01.000 It's not even real. 0.99
01:06:02.000 All those mornings that you didn't want to fucking get up, and I look at it as like a fucking... 0.99
01:06:08.000 Like a rock. 0.99
01:06:09.000 And you find this fucking rock and that rock is you. 0.99
01:06:12.000 And every day you fucking fight not wanting to get up. 0.99
01:06:15.000 And you do anyway. 1.00
01:06:16.000 You chip another piece off that fucking rock. 1.00
01:06:18.000 And every day you fucking eat the right foods. 1.00
01:06:20.000 And every day you go to train. 0.99
01:06:21.000 You train harder and harder and harder and harder.
01:06:23.000 And you get up earlier.
01:06:24.000 And all these things you do to start forming yourself. 0.99
01:06:27.000 You're chipping another fucking piece of that rock off. 0.99
01:06:30.000 Before you know it, you have this beautiful fucking piece of artwork that you built. 0.99
01:06:36.000 But people don't and then once you get there you see it it becomes real like oh my god fucking did this shit And so like the fucking journey becomes so real then but so many people aren't willing to fucking chip away At that stone that is them to start chipping off those fucking rough edges That's the fear. 0.99
01:06:54.000 The fear is never reaching your potential. 0.99
01:06:56.000 That's it.
01:06:57.000 That always falling short, always quitting before you're done, always procrastinating, always not doing the right thing.
01:07:04.000 And then one day you're an old man and you look back and go, God, I could have been great.
01:07:10.000 I could have been great. 0.97
01:07:11.000 I'll never forget one time I was running by a graveyard when I was fucking just trying to become... 0.99
01:07:17.000 I was fat. 0.95
01:07:18.000 And I ran by a graveyard and I looked out there and I have all these epiphanies, man. 0.99
01:07:24.000 I have all these fucking moments of like... 0.98
01:07:25.000 It's crazy, man, of this thought. 0.99
01:07:28.000 I'm always by myself. 0.98
01:07:29.000 I'm always in deep fucking thought about how to be better. 1.00
01:07:32.000 And I look out there and I'm like, man, I wonder how many of you motherfuckers in there... 1.00
01:07:36.000 Fucking just are so upset with how you lived your life and fucking just regret how you lived it. 1.00
01:07:43.000 And I'm running a 300-pound man thinking, man, don't fucking die like this, bro. 1.00
01:07:49.000 Don't die like this. 1.00
01:07:51.000 So people wonder where this shit comes from for me. 1.00
01:07:54.000 It comes from such deep thought of trying to see what this is all about. 1.00
01:07:59.000 What is this life all about?
01:08:01.000 What am I all about?
01:08:02.000 Why am I here?
01:08:04.000 You know, I had to find purpose.
01:08:07.000 And my suffering, it had a purpose. 0.99
01:08:11.000 It had a fucking purpose. 0.99
01:08:14.000 Do you talk to other people that are like you and try to understand if they're going through the same thing? 0.99
01:08:19.000 Are they trying to gather knowledge as well?
01:08:21.000 Are they just doing it because they're addicted to runner's high?
01:08:25.000 Are they doing it because they enjoy the challenge?
01:08:28.000 How many people do you talk to that are like you?
01:08:32.000 I've never talked to anyone that...
01:08:34.000 And most people don't even believe what I say half the time. 0.99
01:08:37.000 That I do it to fucking gain knowledge and all that shit. 0.99
01:08:41.000 I haven't met one that goes out there... 1.00
01:08:43.000 People really enjoy a lot of the shit that they do. 1.00
01:08:47.000 Like they... 1.00
01:08:48.000 I don't know many people who can go out and run 240 miles at one time if you don't enjoy it.
01:08:54.000 If you just don't really enjoy it.
01:08:57.000 So, you know, I... I had...
01:09:02.000 Many people build confidence in different ways and they build belief in different ways.
01:09:07.000 Coming from where I came from, I didn't have any belief in myself.
01:09:12.000 So some people can go read a book and get belief.
01:09:15.000 Some people can go take a yoga class, have good parents.
01:09:19.000 I had to put myself so where I came from was so far down underneath like soil.
01:09:27.000 That I had to build belief by truly ingraining it in my brain.
01:09:33.000 So the things I do, I'm always, every day, building belief.
01:09:38.000 And my belief had to be where it is because I was so far down.
01:09:41.000 So it may take a 200 mile run for me.
01:09:43.000 It may take a 100 mile run.
01:09:44.000 It may take late nights in the gym.
01:09:48.000 But without belief, you have nothing.
01:09:51.000 And I realized that when I was a young kid.
01:09:53.000 I have no belief.
01:09:53.000 I have to build it.
01:09:55.000 And a five-mile run didn't do it.
01:09:57.000 I had to push myself to such extremes because I came from...
01:10:01.000 People judge me by not knowing where I came from.
01:10:04.000 So unless you're me and you came from where I came from, I guarantee you wouldn't have made it out. 0.83
01:10:10.000 Guarantee it.
01:10:11.000 And I knew that.
01:10:12.000 So my belief comes from going...
01:10:14.000 I had to build it.
01:10:15.000 And that's how I build it, man.
01:10:16.000 I build it by the things I do.
01:10:18.000 It's so painful reading about your childhood and the experiences with your father.
01:10:25.000 And then when you went back and met your father as an adult and got with him and watched him get drunk and then watch him get belligerent and experience it all over again.
01:10:40.000 And then think about what happened to him to make him who he is. 0.94
01:10:43.000 Yeah, that fucked me up, dude. 1.00
01:10:45.000 But I had to go, like, I realized I was fucked. 1.00
01:10:49.000 I realized I was just a sorry motherfucker. 1.00
01:10:52.000 You know, I quit pararescue. 0.99
01:10:54.000 I was afraid of the water. 0.98
01:10:54.000 Every time shit got hard, like I said, I didn't have talent. 0.98
01:10:57.000 You know, I fucking didn't have shit. 1.00
01:11:00.000 Whenever shit got hard for me, I thought I was on my way out and I got sucked back in. 1.00
01:11:04.000 I become a loser again, real quick. 1.00
01:11:06.000 And I see them all the time. 1.00
01:11:07.000 There's a lot of fucking losers out here that won't face it. 1.00
01:11:10.000 I was like, oh man, gotta go back and visit this motherfucker. 1.00
01:11:14.000 I haven't seen my dad in fucking years, man. 1.00
01:11:17.000 Years. 0.99
01:11:18.000 But I knew where I came from.
01:11:20.000 I knew where my mindset came from.
01:11:22.000 I knew where my demons were. 0.93
01:11:25.000 So my whole idea when I went back to see my dad was I was hoping that I could just fucking call myself illusion that it's because of you, dad. 0.87
01:11:33.000 So I was hoping to go back and get the confirmation that I always wanted. 0.89
01:11:37.000 That wasn't my fault.
01:11:39.000 That voice in my head was so loud.
01:11:41.000 It's not your fault, David.
01:11:43.000 It's not your fault you can't read and write. 1.00
01:11:44.000 It's not your fault that people call you fucking niggers. 1.00
01:11:46.000 It's not your fault. 1.00
01:11:47.000 It's not your fault this.
01:11:48.000 It's not your fault that. 0.99
01:11:49.000 It's not your fault that you're fat. 1.00
01:11:50.000 It's not your fault that you quit shit. 1.00
01:11:53.000 It's not your fault. 1.00
01:11:54.000 So I was like, okay, man, I'm going to go back and visit this motherfucker so I can just squash it and I can just go on and be a fucking loser because you fucked me up. 1.00
01:12:02.000 When I got there, I drove to Buffalo, saw my dad. 1.00
01:12:06.000 Same routine as it was when I was eight years old, man.
01:12:09.000 Walked in.
01:12:10.000 What's up?
01:12:11.000 Went to Skateland. 1.00
01:12:12.000 I sat on that fucking couch that he would cheat on my mom with. 1.00
01:12:16.000 I sat on that couch in the corner, and I was like, God, what the fuck, man? 1.00
01:12:20.000 It was a whole normal day. 0.99
01:12:22.000 And the more I was around him, now he started getting drunk, and I won't go through the whole thing.
01:12:27.000 But I started seeing, man.
01:12:29.000 I started having a conversation.
01:12:30.000 I always had these conversations with myself. 1.00
01:12:32.000 I'm like, man, this motherfucker. 1.00
01:12:35.000 He came from hell. 1.00
01:12:37.000 His dad would put him in front of a furnace.
01:12:40.000 And like, if he moved, he'd get burnt.
01:12:42.000 So when my dad got beat, his dad would put him in front of a furnace. 0.99
01:12:49.000 And if he would have moved, he'd fucking get burnt up. 0.98
01:12:51.000 So my dad said, I sit there and take it. 1.00
01:12:53.000 So he never dealt with his fucking demons. 1.00
01:12:56.000 So his demons became mine. 1.00
01:12:59.000 His demons became mine. 1.00
01:13:01.000 Motherfuckers think you die and the demon goes with you, man. 1.00
01:13:05.000 Don't be a fucking fool, bro. 1.00
01:13:08.000 You know, like, that's why I'm proud of myself. 1.00
01:13:10.000 I took his demons and mine. 0.99
01:13:12.000 And people are always looking for some great fucking apology. 0.99
01:13:15.000 You know, oh my God, like, you know, my dad needs to say sorry to people who fucking called you out your name. 1.00
01:13:23.000 Nobody's going to come back and say sorry to you, motherfucker. 1.00
01:13:26.000 Nobody's saying shit to you. 1.00
01:13:28.000 You've been a fucking man to fuck up. 1.00
01:13:29.000 So I looked at him. 1.00
01:13:31.000 He didn't face his demons, but I'm gonna face mine.
01:13:33.000 So on that drive back home, that's what I started doing. 0.91
01:13:36.000 You know what's one of the most fucked up things that I've learned over time? 0.78
01:13:40.000 Is that almost all truly exceptional and mentally strong people have been through hell. 0.92
01:13:47.000 It's very few that put themselves through hell when life is great.
01:13:52.000 It's just not usually the case.
01:13:54.000 Right.
01:13:54.000 And to achieve the standards that you've achieved, to become the person that you are today and to have the influence that you have, this global influence on people.
01:14:05.000 Do you know how many people have laced up their shoes because they heard your voice?
01:14:09.000 How many people have just moved into action and changed their life because they've We're good to go.
01:14:35.000 And then your words, as an example, and your describing of it, and then your description of your own shortcomings and failures that give people confidence that it's not like you're this superhuman person that is like a character in a book.
01:14:50.000 No, you're a real human being who has real insecurities and real failures in your past and real demons.
01:14:58.000 And you've figured out a way to harness that energy and just keep going forward and not quit.
01:15:05.000 That's it.
01:15:06.000 There are no timeouts.
01:15:11.000 There's a part in the book that I talk about, a prisoner mind.
01:15:16.000 That's about my mother.
01:15:21.000 I would never listen to that part again in that book.
01:15:24.000 That was hard.
01:15:25.000 Just so you know, man. 1.00
01:15:26.000 I will never again listen to that shit. 1.00
01:15:29.000 Your mother's very, very, very brave. 1.00
01:15:31.000 To be able to talk like that.
01:15:35.000 To be able to...
01:15:38.000 To be able to talk like that to the world and to just...
01:15:45.000 She lost her life.
01:15:47.000 She lost this giant chunk of her life with this abusive man.
01:15:52.000 And to hear her talking about him hitting her and what it was like and the fact that she never came from a family that hit her.
01:16:01.000 She had never been hit before.
01:16:02.000 Never.
01:16:04.000 To have her express it the way she did so honestly and openly is very powerful.
01:16:11.000 And the whole time she's talking, man, she's on the cusp of, like, losing it.
01:16:15.000 Like, I'm in the other room, so I'm interviewing her. 0.99
01:16:19.000 And I'm hearing this shit, so I knew a lot about it, obviously. 0.99
01:16:22.000 I lived it. 1.00
01:16:23.000 And that's what fucked me up the most, man. 0.95
01:16:25.000 When you see... 0.99
01:16:26.000 Like I said, I wasn't a smart kid growing up, but whatever made me, whatever the fuck made me, I'm so fucking... 0.99
01:16:36.000 My mind is sharp, man. 0.99
01:16:38.000 Like, it's...
01:16:40.000 It's crazy. 1.00
01:16:41.000 I was so aware of so much shit. 0.99
01:16:45.000 I was so bright in that way. 1.00
01:16:47.000 And to see your mom go through that shit as that young kid, I was going through it and she was going through it right beside me. 1.00
01:16:54.000 When I got my ass beat, she got her ass beat. 1.00
01:16:58.000 It's fucked up, man. 1.00
01:17:01.000 People like to judge who you are, man. 1.00
01:17:03.000 Why you cuss so much, man? 1.00
01:17:04.000 My life wasn't fucking PG, motherfucker. 1.00
01:17:07.000 You can't just turn who the fuck you are off. 1.00
01:17:10.000 When you see your mom going with that kind of shit, And then I'm coming to her defense at seven or eight years old and she's getting her fucking ass beat by a 220 pound man. 1.00
01:17:21.000 And I'm fucking some little kid. 1.00
01:17:23.000 You know what kind of courage it takes to muster that up to go help her out and see her fucked up like that. 1.00
01:17:28.000 And the time she would cry and be bruised up and shit. 1.00
01:17:31.000 It was just, it was a fucking nightmare. 0.99
01:17:33.000 And then to hear her talk about it, like the part where my dad says, I brought this belt from Texas. 1.00
01:17:39.000 This belt came all the way from Texas to whip your ass with. 1.00
01:17:42.000 It was like, where am I at right now? 1.00
01:17:46.000 Because I knew no other households were fucking living like this, man. 0.99
01:17:51.000 And I knew it. 0.99
01:17:53.000 I knew it.
01:17:53.000 And then she was shut off.
01:17:56.000 She was shut off from the world.
01:17:57.000 And when I wrote Can't Hurt Me, she refused. 1.00
01:18:01.000 She said, fuck, don't put my shit in there. 1.00
01:18:04.000 She was so embarrassed. 1.00
01:18:06.000 Like I put her there, man, she fucking married a fucking prisoner. 1.00
01:18:10.000 So my mom was so fucked up. 1.00
01:18:13.000 She was so fucked up by the shit and people go... 1.00
01:18:15.000 And people go, man, you're a mama's boy. 1.00
01:18:18.000 Motherfucker, I ain't no mama's boy, man. 1.00
01:18:21.000 See your mom go through this shit. 1.00
01:18:23.000 You're going to make sure she's taken care of. 1.00
01:18:25.000 So she came out and one of the people that, you know, she got married a few times because she was looking for something that my dad stripped from her.
01:18:34.000 And she was out.
01:18:36.000 She was gone for years.
01:18:37.000 She's just now coming back.
01:18:38.000 She's 70. She's 75. But in that book I talk about, man, she's like, don't put that, you know, and can't hurt me.
01:18:44.000 But now she's getting better and she's allowing me more to talk more about my life, which was also some of her life.
01:18:51.000 The part about marrying a prisoner is so crazy. 1.00
01:18:54.000 Dude, it was a fucking... 1.00
01:18:55.000 Not just a prisoner, but a prisoner who killed a woman. 1.00
01:18:59.000 Dude, this... 1.00
01:19:02.000 So it was so fucked up. 0.99
01:19:04.000 It's hard for me to talk about because it's almost like... 0.99
01:19:06.000 I had a front row seat at a horror show.
01:19:09.000 So when my mom left my dad, she went to Wilmoth and he got murdered.
01:19:14.000 I talked about that and can't hurt me.
01:19:16.000 He got murdered.
01:19:17.000 So that took her all the way over the edge. 1.00
01:19:19.000 I mean, he got shot fucking six times. 1.00
01:19:21.000 And the last shot, this motherfucker got right up on his head and made sure he was dead. 1.00
01:19:26.000 Like, forehead shot. 1.00
01:19:29.000 And so she didn't cry.
01:19:32.000 She didn't cry.
01:19:33.000 It was over.
01:19:35.000 A whole other person became. 0.99
01:19:37.000 And so I'm fucking now like 12, 13, 14, whatever the fuck I was. 1.00
01:19:40.000 I'm watching this woman every day. 1.00
01:19:42.000 Front row seat, just watching her, just going through life, fucked up. 0.99
01:19:45.000 And then I'm about to go in the military, into the Air Force. 0.98
01:19:50.000 And like two years out, man, you know, I'm like a sophomore in high school.
01:19:54.000 Phones ringing every night.
01:19:56.000 She tell me don't get on the phone. 0.97
01:19:57.000 Don't get on the phone.
01:19:57.000 Don't get on the phone.
01:19:58.000 15 minute calls.
01:20:00.000 Hang up.
01:20:01.000 15 minute call. 0.85
01:20:02.000 Hang up. 1.00
01:20:04.000 What the fuck is going on? 1.00
01:20:05.000 But see, the way I was growing, like the way I was raised, you don't ask your mom what's going on. 1.00
01:20:11.000 It ain't like now like conversations and shit with the parents. 1.00
01:20:14.000 You shut the fuck up. 1.00
01:20:15.000 And that's I didn't ask shit, but I knew something was fucked cuz like three four hours a night 15 minute hangout cuz he was in prison This guy was in prison. 1.00
01:20:23.000 So you only have 15 minutes on the phone. 0.99
01:20:25.000 They had to put more money in it.
01:20:25.000 How did you meet him?
01:20:27.000 She started working.
01:20:28.000 So She was always about helping people out. 0.97
01:20:32.000 But the thing about it was like I Was right in front of her and needed so much fucking help And that was fucked up for me for a long time, but she helped out so many people. 0.93
01:20:45.000 But I guess since I was with her through the journey, I didn't count. 0.96
01:20:49.000 But it's all good, man.
01:20:51.000 It's what life's about.
01:20:52.000 You got to understand what your mom went through so that I can be good with it.
01:20:57.000 I saw that.
01:20:58.000 So I had to man up a lot more.
01:21:00.000 So she saw people needed help.
01:21:03.000 So she started teaching in the prison.
01:21:06.000 So she had a full-time job at DePaul University in Greencastle, Indiana.
01:21:11.000 And then she started teaching in a prison.
01:21:13.000 And she met this prisoner. 0.99
01:21:14.000 This prisoner, obviously, I don't know, slitter or node or some bullshit like that. 0.98
01:21:18.000 She was looking for anything. 1.00
01:21:20.000 She was looking for anybody that loved her because my dad beat the fucking life out of her. 0.99
01:21:25.000 And my dad... 0.99
01:21:27.000 So my dad wouldn't marry my mom, but ended up marrying a woman that was tied to like...
01:21:37.000 I'm not even going to go there. 0.99
01:21:38.000 I'm not trying to get fucking sued and shit right now, man. 1.00
01:21:41.000 But he married somebody that was fucked up. 1.00
01:21:45.000 That's fucked up. 1.00
01:21:46.000 So, anyway, she met him in prison, and the phone was ringing every night. 1.00
01:21:52.000 She didn't tell me about it, because I could tell your son, hey, David, I'm in love with a prisoner.
01:21:59.000 Who murdered a woman.
01:22:01.000 Oh, no, I'm about to get to that, brother. 0.99
01:22:03.000 So I'm fucking now about a week out, or whatever the fucking was, from leaving for boot camp. 0.96
01:22:10.000 And she lets me know what's up. 0.98
01:22:14.000 And so I'm about to leave for boot camp.
01:22:15.000 And I'm so protective of my mom.
01:22:19.000 And she lays this on me.
01:22:21.000 Yeah.
01:22:23.000 Sit down.
01:22:24.000 Let's have a talk. 1.00
01:22:26.000 And she never does this shit, man. 1.00
01:22:27.000 She's like, there was nothing ever hidden from me. 1.00
01:22:30.000 That's why I grew up so fast.
01:22:32.000 That abusive life and what she was going through, it was front and center.
01:22:35.000 Her being broke, everything.
01:22:37.000 This was the only secret she kept from me.
01:22:41.000 Those phone calls, you know, I've been seeing someone in prison.
01:22:47.000 Alright, cool, whatever. 0.99
01:22:49.000 But I'm thinking, what the fuck is this, man? 0.99
01:22:51.000 So, you know, I didn't want to ask, how the fuck do you get to prison? 1.00
01:22:57.000 So, I'm sitting there, I'm sitting there, I'm sitting there, and I'm like, okay, man, I gotta fucking ask this fucking question. 0.99
01:23:03.000 How the fuck, you know, what happened? 0.99
01:23:05.000 You know, she's like, well, does one of those things, you know, because she knows it's fucking bad. 0.99
01:23:11.000 Well, he was into drugs and stuff like that. 0.97
01:23:14.000 I'm thinking, okay, maybe drug dealer, something like that.
01:23:17.000 He was into drugs, that's for sure.
01:23:19.000 But he literally, I don't know how it went down, but he choked a woman to death over some drugs. 1.00
01:23:30.000 And I don't know the ins and outs of all this other shit and That's who she was gonna fucking be with and he was getting out of prison Literally in a few weeks after I was going to Air Force boot camp So I'm in fucking Air Force boot camp thinking about my mom is about to fucking marry a Fucking dude who got sent to prison marry him right away to right away So the first time I meet this motherfucker dude is at my fucking Air Force graduation My 1.00
01:24:02.000 fucking Air Force graduation. 1.00
01:24:04.000 And she was like, you ain't putting that shit in can't hurt me. 1.00
01:24:06.000 She was embarrassed about it. 1.00
01:24:08.000 And then she saw how I went totally like fucking vulnerable. 1.00
01:24:12.000 And she was like, fuck it. 1.00
01:24:15.000 Go ahead. 1.00
01:24:15.000 So there's so much more to it. 1.00
01:24:17.000 But he ended up...
01:24:21.000 I think it was last year or maybe this year.
01:24:23.000 He OD'd.
01:24:25.000 So my mom divorced him, obviously, after it didn't work out.
01:24:29.000 And she was telling me a story one time.
01:24:30.000 We were talking about this book.
01:24:32.000 She started opening more up about the relationship with this prisoner.
01:24:37.000 And she said one night they got into a fight, you know, not not physical.
01:24:41.000 No, he never hit her like my dad did so many times.
01:24:45.000 But he said one night she was sleeping and had had her back to him. 0.99
01:24:50.000 And all she thought about all fucking night was because she started slowly realizing like I'm fucked up. 1.00
01:24:57.000 I just married a fucking guy from prison that killed somebody. 1.00
01:25:01.000 And she started realizing it more and more, but she's laying in bed, and she was like, is this motherfucker gonna fucking kill me tonight? 1.00
01:25:11.000 And she started telling me these fucking stories, man, and I'm like, And I'm just like, what the fuck, man? 1.00
01:25:18.000 Like, you know, it was tough. 1.00
01:25:22.000 It was a tough way to grow up, man.
01:25:24.000 It was a tough way to grow up. 0.94
01:25:25.000 So, yeah, he ended up, so they got divorced, I think it worked, maybe two years, whatever the fuck it was, whatever, it doesn't matter. 0.97
01:25:32.000 And then I think he OD'd last year. 0.99
01:25:37.000 He OD'd last year, killed himself.
01:25:39.000 I don't know if he killed himself, he just OD'd.
01:25:42.000 So...
01:25:44.000 The idea of you going off to boot camp Knowing that your mom's gonna be alone with this guy getting out of prison. 1.00
01:25:51.000 Yeah, that shit must have been haunting. 0.99
01:25:53.000 It fucked me up every night Every night I'm sitting in the fucking in my bunk thinking and then I I knew the date he was getting out of prison And like, you know, you can't just get on the phone and call. 1.00
01:26:05.000 Hey mom. 0.99
01:26:06.000 What's going on?
01:26:06.000 You don't know you're in boot camp you get like Every now and then they say okay.
01:26:10.000 You have like a phone call once a week or some shit I think every Sunday was a phone call And I'll never forget, when he got to the house, man, I actually got... 0.98
01:26:19.000 I was fucking not right. 0.95
01:26:21.000 So I got recycled. 0.98
01:26:23.000 So a week in boot camp. 0.99
01:26:25.000 So, like, I fucking... 0.99
01:26:27.000 I don't know, I fucking did something in boot camp. 0.99
01:26:29.000 I fucking got recycled. 0.99
01:26:30.000 I was sneaking into Snickers bars. 1.00
01:26:32.000 I was just all kind of belligerent and shit. 0.99
01:26:34.000 I was just out of it. 0.99
01:26:35.000 I was sneaking out and just fucking... 0.98
01:26:38.000 I was just fucking not right. 0.98
01:26:39.000 I just wasn't right. 0.98
01:26:41.000 And so then I... Yeah.
01:26:43.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:26:43.000 It was fucked up. 0.99
01:26:45.000 It was fucked up. 1.00
01:26:46.000 What was it like when you met him? 0.99
01:26:49.000 I tried to be supportive because that's what I always did.
01:26:52.000 My mom would never make her happy. 0.99
01:26:54.000 That was my fucking number one priority. 0.99
01:26:56.000 I never cared about myself. 0.99
01:26:59.000 Never.
01:27:00.000 Never.
01:27:01.000 Ever.
01:27:02.000 Which makes what I do now for people...
01:27:08.000 I understand.
01:27:10.000 Because I care about people. 0.99
01:27:11.000 Even though I'm an introvert, I'm an introvert because my fucking life sucked. 0.99
01:27:15.000 But what I do for people, I really do. 0.99
01:27:19.000 That's why I want to make sure that fucking book and things I do, that's why I don't fucking... 1.00
01:27:23.000 Why don't you sell shit? 1.00
01:27:25.000 Why don't you always... 1.00
01:27:25.000 Why aren't you promoting this and that? 1.00
01:27:28.000 No, man. 1.00
01:27:30.000 No, I care that you understand that I fucking want to see you fucking kill shit. 1.00
01:27:35.000 I want to see you better. 1.00
01:27:37.000 So, you know, when I met him, I was supportive, and I sat back and looked at him, and I wanted to fucking beat this motherfucker down so bad because I knew, like, you're not a good egg, bro. 1.00
01:27:47.000 You're not a good egg, man. 1.00
01:27:49.000 I'm not saying, yeah, I mean, you know, I'm not saying prisoners are bad.
01:27:55.000 They can be rehabilitated.
01:27:59.000 But I always had these feelings about people. 0.99
01:28:02.000 If I get around you, I can fucking... 1.00
01:28:04.000 I mean, I tell you, but when you grow up the way I grow up, man, you have these ways of knowing pieces of shit. 1.00
01:28:11.000 I became an expert in pieces of shit. 1.00
01:28:15.000 I used to be one. 1.00
01:28:16.000 My dad was one. 0.99
01:28:18.000 So you can fucking pick him out. 1.00
01:28:19.000 You can pick out liars and all kind of con artists from a mile away because, motherfucker, I studied it. 1.00
01:28:25.000 Study myself. 1.00
01:28:26.000 I know who you are. 1.00
01:28:27.000 So you can't come around me, bullshit me, man. 1.00
01:28:30.000 You can't. 1.00
01:28:31.000 So it was horrible.
01:28:34.000 It was horrible.
01:28:36.000 So, you know, like the one woman I cared about more than anything in the world, because I saw her hell. 1.00
01:28:43.000 I'm looking at this shit now. 1.00
01:28:44.000 And now I have to go to fucking pararescue school and all this other shit while she's fucking with this guy. 1.00
01:28:50.000 So there are a lot of things in my mind that just made it hard that I studied. 0.99
01:28:56.000 I studied my mind during these times.
01:28:59.000 I started this process to become who I am today of learning life and how hard life is.
01:29:06.000 That's why I don't speak about the good times.
01:29:07.000 Everybody gets so, man, why don't you speak about the good times?
01:29:10.000 I don't need to help you through those, brother.
01:29:13.000 I do not need to help you.
01:29:15.000 You don't turn on David Goggins for the good times. 0.99
01:29:19.000 You turn on David Goggins when you don't feel like doing shit. 0.99
01:29:22.000 You're an expert in dark matter. 1.00
01:29:24.000 Dark motherfucking matter. 1.00
01:29:26.000 That's what I am. 0.99
01:29:27.000 So, yeah.
01:29:29.000 I know it really well.
01:29:31.000 So, it wasn't like I wished for it. 0.99
01:29:34.000 One of the things that's hilarious in the book is that you read all the shit that people write to you, all the hate. 0.99
01:29:44.000 And you record it. 0.99
01:29:46.000 And then you play it back.
01:29:48.000 Brother, I'm going to tell you right now, man. 1.00
01:29:51.000 That started, honestly, when this fucking Seal from Seal Team 6 came out and started lying his fucking ass off about me. 0.99
01:30:01.000 This is an important subject. 0.99
01:30:03.000 We should talk about this, because your military career and what you've done is always misrepresented.
01:30:10.000 Oh, yeah.
01:30:11.000 Even by people that should know better.
01:30:12.000 Oh, yeah.
01:30:13.000 Oh, they know better, but what makes people feel good, like when you become successful, when you become successful, and I had to realize this, and this guy made me realize this, I had to study them.
01:30:26.000 When you become successful, especially within a fraternity like that, like this is a fraternity, bro. 0.56
01:30:34.000 This isn't like a fucking like, oh, like in the Air Force, you know, this is a very different world. 0.99
01:30:41.000 So several SEALs, I'm going to say, there's a lot that would like to see me fucking a lot. 0.98
01:30:47.000 They like to see a lot of people not do well and them do great. 0.99
01:30:50.000 They all know we eat our own.
01:30:53.000 We eat our own, and that's what they all say.
01:30:55.000 We eat our own.
01:30:55.000 Is that all SEALs?
01:30:57.000 I don't know all SEALs.
01:30:58.000 There's a lot of SEALs.
01:30:59.000 I can't speak that way.
01:31:00.000 I know a few SEALs.
01:31:01.000 Is it just the hyper-competitive nature of the type of people that get involved?
01:31:05.000 Yeah, it's like, you know, we have this, this, this, this, this macho stigma that, you know, like, you know, we're, we're the best of the best. 0.99
01:31:14.000 We're fucking, we're, we're, we're the best motherfuckers in the world. 0.99
01:31:17.000 And, and I, I beg to differ. 0.99
01:31:20.000 You know, like people go like I've had so many people in our like the news.
01:31:24.000 Oh, my God.
01:31:25.000 They contact me all.
01:31:27.000 They want me so bad because there's been some things that came up, you know, Navy SEAL community.
01:31:32.000 This guy died.
01:31:33.000 This kid going through training died and some Navy SEALs.
01:31:37.000 I don't know the stories.
01:31:39.000 They can Google it. 1.00
01:31:39.000 Where the fuck I guess they killed somebody over in Iraq who has some information, some shit. 1.00
01:31:45.000 So they always want to get me on so I can fuck it. 1.00
01:31:48.000 Because they know that I was not a fan of a lot of Navy SEALs. 1.00
01:31:53.000 And a lot of it is to do with the lies, some of the leadership problems, some of the character issues.
01:32:01.000 And I got to see that a lot when I got out.
01:32:03.000 And I'm the one to say it.
01:32:05.000 I had a lot of problems myself when I was growing up.
01:32:08.000 It took a long time for me to go.
01:32:09.000 So I'm not judging these people. 1.00
01:32:11.000 I know where this shit comes from, man. 1.00
01:32:13.000 This shit comes from shit you haven't handled. 1.00
01:32:15.000 So I... It doesn't even bother me anymore. 1.00
01:32:19.000 But when I came out in 2018, this SEAL from SEAL Team 6, he had, and Jennifer, it pissed Jennifer off so fucking bad, and I was cool about it.
01:32:32.000 But this guy started YouTube channels saying that I was dishonorably discharged. 0.98
01:32:37.000 I fucking was kicked out of the SEAL teams. 0.98
01:32:39.000 I refused to fight in combat. 1.00
01:32:43.000 I never went to combat.
01:32:45.000 I mean, every bit of it.
01:32:47.000 So the reason why in Can't Hurt Me, I have my write-up of my medal from Iraq.
01:32:55.000 And I wasn't going to put that in there, but Jennifer started getting DMs from people saying, I'm not even going to name his name.
01:33:02.000 That's not who I am, dude.
01:33:04.000 And I just showed you outside about that one cat.
01:33:06.000 I'm not going to name his name either.
01:33:08.000 But I'm not going to name his name because...
01:33:11.000 How does he not know better, though?
01:33:14.000 That was one of the things that people bring up that you never deployed.
01:33:18.000 Right.
01:33:19.000 Yep.
01:33:19.000 Why would they say that?
01:33:21.000 Why do you think, Joe?
01:33:23.000 Think about it, man.
01:33:25.000 Think about it.
01:33:26.000 But that's something that's easily proven.
01:33:28.000 Exactly.
01:33:29.000 But guess what?
01:33:30.000 This guy had black ops.
01:33:32.000 Literally, he had YouTube channels, DMing people.
01:33:36.000 At this time, I started getting a little bigger.
01:33:39.000 I started getting a little more profile.
01:33:41.000 And he was coming out of the SEAL teams.
01:33:43.000 And I'm not gonna say his name because I'm not gonna try to take food out of his mouth.
01:33:47.000 And this is one thing I learned from all of this. 0.98
01:33:50.000 I was so fucking pissed, man. 0.97
01:33:52.000 I was so fucking pissed I didn't deploy. 1.00
01:33:55.000 I mean, the fucking lives were insane. 0.99
01:33:57.000 How many times did you deploy? 1.00
01:33:58.000 Twice.
01:33:59.000 One to Guam and one to Iraq. 0.86
01:34:03.000 And then what they don't talk about, though, is the reason I didn't deploy more is I had two heart surgeries. 0.85
01:34:09.000 So I was out of the fucking teens for deploying for like three, four years because the heart surgeries. 0.88
01:34:15.000 Because when you get a heart surgery, you can't go back to the point. 0.99
01:34:16.000 You were born with like holes in your heart.
01:34:19.000 Right, with a hole in my heart.
01:34:19.000 And the first surgery, it didn't, you know, it didn't take, so I had to get another surgery.
01:34:23.000 So I took so much time having these heart surgeries.
01:34:26.000 So I was in recruiting at the time.
01:34:29.000 So this kept me in recruiting. 0.99
01:34:31.000 So this even added to the whole bullshit. 1.00
01:34:34.000 This added to the whole bullshit. 1.00
01:34:36.000 So they were loving it. 0.99
01:34:37.000 Because right now, like I said, I wasn't like the most famous SEAL within the SEAL teams. 0.99
01:34:42.000 I didn't take shit, man. 1.00
01:34:44.000 If shit was fucked up, I called it. 1.00
01:34:47.000 I called it. 1.00
01:34:47.000 There's no secret shit here, man. 1.00
01:34:51.000 And I knew what happened when I got out and this guy started doing this shit. 1.00
01:34:57.000 And I knew why he was doing it. 0.99
01:35:00.000 Because the biggest thing, he wanted to take my character and destroy it.
01:35:03.000 Right.
01:35:04.000 That's all you want to do.
01:35:05.000 And so when you're in these kind of communities like this, man, people are like, oh no, there's no way he was trying to do that.
01:35:11.000 Man, I wish I could get Jennifer here right now. 1.00
01:35:14.000 We have all the screenshots and I had to get a fucking lawyer. 0.99
01:35:18.000 I mean this guy went so far and then what happened was over a period of time he fucking literally apologized, went away, fucking took all this shit down. 0.99
01:35:30.000 I mean, but he came out and but what happened was that rumor mill spread like wildfire. 0.98
01:35:36.000 Did he have to know, did he have to be told about your actual record?
01:35:41.000 No, he knew it.
01:35:42.000 I deployed with him.
01:35:44.000 What?
01:35:45.000 I deployed with him in Iraq.
01:35:48.000 No.
01:35:49.000 In Iraq.
01:35:50.000 He was just lying.
01:35:51.000 In Iraq. 0.99
01:35:52.000 I deployed with him in the only fucking... 1.00
01:35:54.000 See, man, you're going to get me to the point where I say his fucking name because I swear to God. 1.00
01:35:57.000 So I deployed with his ass. 1.00
01:36:00.000 That's why I put the fucking write-up. 1.00
01:36:03.000 So I got a medal over there in Iraq. 0.99
01:36:05.000 I got a medal in Iraq, so I did go to war. 0.99
01:36:09.000 And I put it in the book because Jennifer started getting all this shit. 1.00
01:36:13.000 And she goes, you got to put that fucking award in there because this motherfucker is just lying his ass off. 1.00
01:36:18.000 I didn't go to ranger school, all this shit. 1.00
01:36:21.000 So I put the ranger school, everything he said. 0.99
01:36:24.000 I put in Can't Hurt Me because he was just literally lying, trying to literally ruin who I was because I'm the world's toughest man. 1.00
01:36:32.000 That doesn't sit right with some fucking alpha motherfuckers, dude. 1.00
01:36:35.000 And these motherfuckers, dude, some of them, and you don't know unless you've been in a fraternity like this. 1.00
01:36:43.000 Unless you've been in a fraternity like this, you don't fucking know. 1.00
01:36:45.000 I don't fucking care about them. 0.99
01:36:47.000 I have some great friends in there. 0.96
01:36:49.000 But anyway, the reason, this guy actually helped me out. 0.62
01:36:52.000 So when I came out, there's a few guys that came after me in the SEAL teams, trying to make sure that I fucking wasn't going to be who I am. 0.99
01:37:00.000 And they still talk their bullshit lies. 1.00
01:37:03.000 Lies! 1.00
01:37:04.000 So many fucking lies, dude. 1.00
01:37:06.000 And what's great about it is my proof is it can't hurt me. 1.00
01:37:09.000 So everything they say, my proof is it.
01:37:11.000 And that's why it's designed that way for the liars.
01:37:13.000 But this guy came out and what I do is I studied him.
01:37:17.000 So Jennifer got a lawyer. 1.00
01:37:19.000 I'm about to sue the fuck out of this fucking guy, man. 1.00
01:37:21.000 Like I had all this defamation. 1.00
01:37:23.000 I mean, it was fucking a thick. 0.99
01:37:24.000 I was going to sue the fuck out of him. 1.00
01:37:26.000 And every night I fucking woke up. 0.99
01:37:30.000 I was like, man, I started thinking about myself. 1.00
01:37:32.000 When I was a piece of shit. 1.00
01:37:34.000 When I had no character. 1.00
01:37:35.000 When I had no pride, no dignity. 1.00
01:37:37.000 That's because only people that do shit like that, you're not a man. 1.00
01:37:41.000 You're no fucking man, dude. 1.00
01:37:42.000 I started thinking about what kind of pussy you are, man. 1.00
01:37:46.000 How you must have so many fucking demons in your life that you spend this kind of time just trying to take another just trying to take another man and not It'd be different if it was truth behind it, right lies Fucking lies. 1.00
01:37:58.000 Yeah, just because we didn't get along motherfucker It don't mean I wasn't who I am. 1.00
01:38:04.000 We didn't get along motherfucker cuz I fucking I'm like a lie detector Cuz I'm so fucking honest with myself I had such a hard time in my life that I fucking so forthright when you get even near me and Because I fucking, you know my shit is real. 1.00
01:38:19.000 It's fucking real as fuck. 1.00
01:38:21.000 It makes you feel bad. 1.00
01:38:24.000 If you got something going on in your fucking life, I ain't gonna open my fucking mouth. 1.00
01:38:28.000 You know my shit is fucking real. 1.00
01:38:30.000 Yeah, I may not have deployed as many times as you motherfucker because of my heart issues and the other issues that I won't talk about because the fucking news wants me to fucking talk about this shit so bad. 1.00
01:38:38.000 They want to take some SEALs down so bad. 1.00
01:38:40.000 I ain't no bitch like that. 1.00
01:38:42.000 Whatever happened to SEAL teams with me, it happened to SEAL teams. 1.00
01:38:46.000 That's why I don't fucking mention the names, but I saw these little bitches come out here. 1.00
01:38:49.000 It was in the fraternity. 0.99
01:38:50.000 It happened in the fraternity.
01:38:52.000 Leave it there. 1.00
01:38:53.000 Don't be a fucking bitch come out here fucking spreading lies about me, motherfucker. 1.00
01:38:57.000 But I studied all these little bitches who try to come out and ruin my life. 1.00
01:39:00.000 Studied all of them. 1.00
01:39:02.000 Like, man, what you must be going through is fucking evil. 1.00
01:39:06.000 I even took it a step further. 0.99
01:39:08.000 I had to mature myself because I was so fucking mad. 0.99
01:39:11.000 And I looked at his family. 1.00
01:39:12.000 This guy who was talking this shit, I'm going to say his name so bad, but I never will. 1.00
01:39:16.000 Because that's a fucking bitch move on my part. 1.00
01:39:20.000 You can take food out of this fucking, his family's mouth. 1.00
01:39:23.000 You're going to have this guy in a courthouse. 1.00
01:39:26.000 You can have him in a courtroom, spending money on lawyers. 0.99
01:39:31.000 And I fucking just fucking dropped it. 0.99
01:39:32.000 I said, I'm good. 1.00
01:39:33.000 I said, who the fuck I am? 1.00
01:39:35.000 I said, you can wake up every fucking morning being the bitch that you are, but I'm not going to fucking take money out of your pocket and money out of your fucking kid's mouth. 1.00
01:39:44.000 And this kid, this guy wound up apologizing to you? 1.00
01:39:46.000 He didn't apologize to me. 0.98
01:39:49.000 What happened was he got on, and I don't want to go too deep because they'll be able to figure it out, but he ended up Basically saying he had a fucking... 0.98
01:39:59.000 He wasn't right in his head. 0.98
01:40:02.000 He wasn't good.
01:40:04.000 And I can tell he wasn't good.
01:40:06.000 Because he was literally DMing people.
01:40:08.000 And I wish I had Jennifer in here, man, so she can show you the DMs.
01:40:11.000 He was DMing people. 1.00
01:40:12.000 And talking all this shit. 1.00
01:40:14.000 And then he would delete it. 0.99
01:40:16.000 And this guy, so Jennifer found it.
01:40:19.000 And so, because this guy DMed Jennifer.
01:40:21.000 And was like, hey, can you, do you know this guy?
01:40:25.000 And I was like, yeah, I know him. 1.00
01:40:27.000 And then Jennifer's like, hey, we gotta fucking shut this shit down. 1.00
01:40:30.000 But he was DMing several people just saying that I was just, I'm gonna be discharged. 0.99
01:40:35.000 I was kicked out of the SEAL teams.
01:40:37.000 I refused to go to combat.
01:40:39.000 He just went on and on and on.
01:40:41.000 And so this guy was taking screenshots of what this guy was saying and sending them to us.
01:40:48.000 And so at this time, now we have a lawyer. 0.98
01:40:50.000 And so we're getting all this shit, dude. 0.96
01:40:52.000 And then he had a YouTube site set up that he took down, just trying to literally ruin who I was. 0.99
01:40:58.000 And I looked at all this shit and I studied them. 0.98
01:41:01.000 I was like, man, you got... 0.99
01:41:03.000 And what came out later on was he did have some demons.
01:41:06.000 He does have some demons.
01:41:07.000 Of course he does.
01:41:08.000 Serious demons.
01:41:09.000 How insane is it that the guy deployed with you?
01:41:12.000 Seal Team Six. 1.00
01:41:14.000 And these motherfuckers are supposed to be badass motherfuckers. 1.00
01:41:16.000 See, this is some of the issues I had when I was in. 1.00
01:41:20.000 Is that when you work so hard, man, I put these motherfuckers, I could talk about last time I was on this fucking shit, on a pedestal. 0.99
01:41:28.000 Half the reason I ran on broken legs, half the reason why I fucking became who I became was because of the image these guys had on me. 0.99
01:41:40.000 I was so impressed with the books and the people that they were. 0.99
01:41:46.000 I was like, my God, man, I got to be a fucking God. 0.99
01:41:50.000 I got to be a God mentally to fucking get in here. 0.99
01:41:54.000 And once I got in, I discovered something different. 0.98
01:41:57.000 I'm not saying everybody.
01:41:59.000 I'm not.
01:42:00.000 I don't know everybody in the SEAL teams. 1.00
01:42:02.000 But I had a problem with the fact that a lot of people lived this shit. 1.00
01:42:09.000 Like a lot of the civilians, like, oh my God, the SEALs are this, the SEALs are that. 1.00
01:42:14.000 You were able to run Badwater 135 because you're a Navy SEAL. And because they...
01:42:20.000 Like, no, motherfucker. 1.00
01:42:21.000 That ain't why. 1.00
01:42:22.000 And I always knew the shit. 1.00
01:42:24.000 And I had issues with it, man. 1.00
01:42:26.000 I had issues with it. 0.99
01:42:27.000 So I had a fucking issue with it. 0.99
01:42:28.000 A lot of people didn't like that. 0.99
01:42:29.000 And then I went on to go into recruiting for a little bit.
01:42:32.000 And then the heart surgeries happened. 1.00
01:42:34.000 So the more I was in recruiting, the more that shit happened. 1.00
01:42:37.000 They just started slowly building up lies. 1.00
01:42:40.000 Slowly building up lies.
01:42:42.000 And I came out to who I was.
01:42:43.000 I told Jennifer, and I knew it.
01:42:46.000 I said, stand by.
01:42:47.000 Stand by.
01:42:49.000 It's coming.
01:42:50.000 Whenever you're a person that gets What other people think is attention that they think they deserve.
01:42:57.000 Yes, sir.
01:42:57.000 That's when things get weird.
01:42:58.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
01:42:59.000 That's why I bring those fucking deployments. 0.99
01:43:00.000 Because they think, oh, my God, you didn't deploy as much as me. 0.99
01:43:03.000 You didn't deploy as much as me. 0.99
01:43:04.000 He's not known for deploying and shit. 0.98
01:43:07.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:43:08.000 Motherfuckers don't care. 1.00
01:43:10.000 Yeah, I have a combat deployment, and I deployed another time that we were supposed to. 1.00
01:43:14.000 It was right during 9-11. 0.86
01:43:15.000 We were supposed to go, and they fucking had us over in Guam. 0.97
01:43:18.000 We were all pissed off. 0.97
01:43:19.000 It didn't work out that way.
01:43:20.000 But I got over there.
01:43:22.000 And what's funny about it, this is what makes me laugh so much.
01:43:24.000 There's a lot of Navy SEALs who never deployed over combat ever.
01:43:28.000 Ever! 1.00
01:43:30.000 And it makes me laugh because motherfuckers want to act like one combat deployment where I fought for my fucking country is bullshit. 1.00
01:43:40.000 Think about that. 1.00
01:43:42.000 Fought for my fucking country. 1.00
01:43:43.000 Did my shit. 1.00
01:43:44.000 Sorry it worked out the way it worked out. 0.99
01:43:47.000 And...
01:43:49.000 That's not enough.
01:43:51.000 I think part of the problem with some of those guys is when guys are seriously alpha, and they think they go above and beyond, and they push harder than anybody, and then they meet you.
01:44:04.000 And you're the guy that's getting up at 3.30 in the morning yelling at them while you're running.
01:44:08.000 Like, I know you're sleeping.
01:44:10.000 I know you're still in bed. 1.00
01:44:12.000 Motherfucker, I'm out here running 10 miles before you eat breakfast. 1.00
01:44:14.000 That's half the reason I did it. 1.00
01:44:16.000 Yeah.
01:44:17.000 That's half the reason. 1.00
01:44:17.000 Motherfucker's going to fucking Jalisco's and shit, getting waffle breakfast and fucking bacon and eggs and shit. 1.00
01:44:23.000 And that bothered me. 1.00
01:44:24.000 I said, motherfucker, I got my family and everybody thinking I'm some fucking stud. 1.00
01:44:28.000 And you all just got to fucking lift some weights. 1.00
01:44:31.000 Y'all don't want to fucking, like I said, I was in charge of PT. And they're like, no, this ain't Buzz Goggins. 0.99
01:44:38.000 Like, man, you got a lot of motherfuckers food. 1.00
01:44:40.000 This ain't everybody. 0.99
01:44:41.000 I don't know every seal.
01:44:42.000 I don't know every seal. 1.00
01:44:43.000 But you want to run your fucking mouth about me and talk your little shit. 1.00
01:44:47.000 I got my secrets, too. 1.00
01:44:49.000 And I won't say names, because only a bitch does that. 1.00
01:44:52.000 So keep on running your fucking mouths. 1.00
01:44:54.000 I know all you motherfuckers. 1.00
01:44:56.000 So you started taking over PT? Yeah. 1.00
01:44:59.000 So when I got back, I went on my first deployment.
01:45:03.000 And when I came back off my first deployment, I begged, put seven chits in, seven chits, it's like a request chit, to go to ranger school. 0.99
01:45:12.000 Motherfuckers don't request to go to ranger school. 1.00
01:45:14.000 I wanted to go to ranger school. 1.00
01:45:16.000 As a SEAL, you went through BUDS, whatever the fuck, you don't want to go to another course to get your ass kicked. 1.00
01:45:21.000 I did. 1.00
01:45:22.000 I did.
01:45:24.000 So I went to ranger school, came back, honor man.
01:45:26.000 I was the enlisted honor man at ranger school, but they say I'm a bad operator. 1.00
01:45:30.000 They also say I'm a bad operator, but guess where they had my black ass when I was fucking in Iraq? 0.99
01:45:36.000 It's called PSD, okay? 1.00
01:45:38.000 So you're like a bodyguard.
01:45:40.000 I'm a bad operator, Joe, but guess where I was?
01:45:44.000 I was the lead navigator.
01:45:47.000 So I'm the eyes.
01:45:48.000 So everything we did was in the car. 0.99
01:45:51.000 It was my job to make sure that whole fucking platoon was safe. 0.99
01:45:55.000 Okay? 1.00
01:45:56.000 You're not going to put a dumb, bad operator up there who's fucking not good. 0.99
01:46:00.000 It was my job to make sure I called all the outs, called all the trouble coming, had to get us there safe. 0.99
01:46:05.000 We had the fucking guy who was going for the prime minister's job, who we were guarding. 0.98
01:46:10.000 And they had a bad operator, what they want to call me. 1.00
01:46:14.000 They want to hear these little fucking rumors. 0.99
01:46:15.000 I was the guy who led it. 0.99
01:46:17.000 And it was so good.
01:46:18.000 I did such a good job that there was two of us because the job's very stressful.
01:46:22.000 Being a primary navigator is stressful.
01:46:24.000 So they have a primary and a secondary.
01:46:26.000 So some days I would do it, some days another guy would do it.
01:46:29.000 I was doing such a good job, Joe, that they didn't want the other guy to do it. 0.98
01:46:32.000 So I became the only guy navigating us through fucking Iraq. 0.98
01:46:38.000 Alright? 0.99
01:46:38.000 And our guy didn't live in the green zone. 0.99
01:46:40.000 The green zone is a safe place.
01:46:42.000 Our guy lived in the red zone. 0.99
01:46:44.000 So we had to go out in the red zone every day to get this fucking guy. 1.00
01:46:47.000 Bring him back in. 0.99
01:46:48.000 No, there was no shoot-em-ups because one rumor that was out there that came out from this guy was I froze.
01:46:56.000 I froze in a firefight.
01:46:58.000 It's kind of funny how you can freeze in a firefight when our platoon was never in one. 1.00
01:47:04.000 So it's just bullshit, man. 0.99
01:47:07.000 But I know where it comes from. 1.00
01:47:08.000 I know where it comes from.
01:47:09.000 Crabs in a bucket.
01:47:10.000 I know where it comes from, my friend.
01:47:12.000 It's just crabs in a bucket. 0.84
01:47:13.000 Sorry I became so successful, guys.
01:47:16.000 That's what it is.
01:47:17.000 People don't like it when you did the same thing they did.
01:47:20.000 You come from the same fraternity, but you get exorbitant amounts of attention and success.
01:47:25.000 Oh, yeah.
01:47:26.000 Instead of looking at that and going, wow, look what he did.
01:47:29.000 That's amazing.
01:47:30.000 I wish I did that, or maybe I could do more, or he's inspiring other people, and that's great.
01:47:37.000 You know what, though?
01:47:38.000 I will say this.
01:47:39.000 There's a lot of them that do say that.
01:47:41.000 That's great.
01:47:42.000 There's a lot of them that do say this.
01:47:43.000 I have this guy named Hawk.
01:47:44.000 You know that email I sent to you a while ago about this guy who wrote that email about the SEAL teams, and I shared it with you about, he's talking about like only 13% of you actually, it's like, anyway, I sent you an email.
01:47:59.000 Yeah, I remember.
01:47:59.000 So anyway, he's a guy that sent that email, Hawk.
01:48:03.000 He's like my best friend. 1.00
01:48:04.000 So he, bad motherfucker. 0.99
01:48:06.000 When he got out of the SEAL teams, he wrote this email and sent out to like every Navy SEAL. And it was like, 87% of you motherfuckers. 1.00
01:48:15.000 He said, 87% of you motherfuckers, you know, are living off of one week. 1.00
01:48:21.000 And what he was talking about was Hell Week. 0.99
01:48:23.000 Like that one week in Hell Week is all they're living off of because they're not living it now.
01:48:28.000 And he made these shirts called the 13% shirts.
01:48:31.000 And the other 13% guys are actually getting after it. 0.99
01:48:34.000 That motherfucker sent me two of them. 1.00
01:48:37.000 Alright? 1.00
01:48:38.000 He sent me two of them.
01:48:39.000 So, yeah, they're right.
01:48:41.000 I wish I could deploy more and blah, blah, blah, whatever.
01:48:44.000 Whatever, man. 0.99
01:48:45.000 But I was a fucking good SEAL and a fucking good teammate. 0.99
01:48:50.000 And some guys didn't like me. 0.99
01:48:52.000 And in the fraternity, we fucking had it out. 1.00
01:48:53.000 And there was a time somebody fucking did some shit. 1.00
01:48:56.000 But it's what it is, man. 1.00
01:48:57.000 You ever heard when people talk about some union work? 0.98
01:49:00.000 One of the things that happens when you're in some unions is like if you're working too hard, someone will come along and go, hey David, slow the fuck down. 0.94
01:49:08.000 That's a true statement. 0.87
01:49:10.000 You're moving too many packages.
01:49:12.000 You're doing too much of this, doing too much of that. 0.91
01:49:15.000 You're setting the standard too high and you're fucking it up for everybody else.
01:49:17.000 And so you'll have people that will sabotage someone just because that person wants to work hard.
01:49:24.000 Oh, I see it.
01:49:25.000 But it made me grow.
01:49:27.000 It made me grow.
01:49:28.000 And I'm glad I didn't put a case on that guy.
01:49:31.000 And I'm glad I got a chance to study him.
01:49:33.000 And it is what it is, man.
01:49:35.000 It is what it is.
01:49:35.000 And this is one part that I try to tell people and teach them.
01:49:38.000 If you're trying to go to that uncommon, amongst the uncommon place, it's a lonely motherfucker up there, man. 0.98
01:49:45.000 It's lonely. 1.00
01:49:46.000 I'm not saying I'm better than every fucking body. 0.99
01:49:48.000 I'm not saying that. 0.99
01:49:49.000 And once again, I'm not speaking for every SEAL. I'm not.
01:49:52.000 But I just didn't...
01:49:53.000 I didn't try to be what they were.
01:49:57.000 What you're just saying is just a fact.
01:49:59.000 It's just a fact, man.
01:50:00.000 It's just a fact.
01:50:01.000 And there's people that are willing to go very far, and then there's people that are willing to go far further than them.
01:50:07.000 That's it.
01:50:07.000 And when you're a person who prides yourself on your ability to go very far, and then someone is willing to go far farther than you, you have to decide...
01:50:17.000 Do I want to look at that as the new standard?
01:50:19.000 Do I want to judge myself?
01:50:21.000 Do I want to admire him?
01:50:23.000 Or do I want to try to take him down?
01:50:25.000 Because I feel bad.
01:50:27.000 Because I can't do what he does.
01:50:28.000 Or I haven't done what he does.
01:50:30.000 Or what he does makes me look bad.
01:50:32.000 Because I like to think I'm a hard worker.
01:50:35.000 I like to think I'm disciplined and hard. 0.99
01:50:37.000 And then I see this fucking dude out there that's just making me look soft. 0.99
01:50:40.000 Right. 0.99
01:50:41.000 And so instead of just going, look at him, man. 1.00
01:50:44.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
01:50:45.000 Right. 1.00
01:50:45.000 Instead of a smart person, we'll look at that person as fuel. 1.00
01:50:50.000 But you have to make your own decisions, too, because what you do requires a dedication that will eliminate a lot of things from your life that some people enjoy and think are important.
01:51:02.000 Dude, and also when I took the road, because I knew what I was doing.
01:51:07.000 When you take that road and you just don't want to just fit in, it's a lonely road.
01:51:13.000 It's a lonely road and you get a lot of haters, man. 0.99
01:51:15.000 Like I tell people all the time, man, If I could walk on water, motherfuckers would say it because I couldn't swim. 1.00
01:51:23.000 I'll tell you that right the fuck now. 1.00
01:51:25.000 I'll tell you that right now. 0.97
01:51:26.000 And this is a true statement. 1.00
01:51:27.000 I used to get so mad, like I said, about this fucking shit, man. 1.00
01:51:31.000 But I sat back one day, I was like, you know what? 1.00
01:51:33.000 All these people are hating on me, man.
01:51:34.000 Like I have a guy who's trying to write a book saying that I was telling people.
01:51:39.000 He's a famous author.
01:51:40.000 I didn't ever drop names, dude.
01:51:41.000 I'm not trying to hurt your business, but you're funny.
01:51:43.000 These people are funny. 1.00
01:51:45.000 Keep on talking your shit. 1.00
01:51:46.000 I will absorb it and make a mixtape out of your fucking ass like I do. 1.00
01:51:50.000 He tried to tell... 1.00
01:51:51.000 He was going to write a book that I was telling people to run into your kidneys. 1.00
01:51:57.000 Got fucked up. 1.00
01:51:59.000 My mentality of running is I was telling people to run into your kidneys and got fucked up. 1.00
01:52:04.000 So run until you get wrapped up. 1.00
01:52:06.000 Run until you get wrapped up.
01:52:07.000 He was going to write a book.
01:52:09.000 And the premise was the way I think compared to the way he thinks. 0.99
01:52:14.000 I never told a motherfucker in my life I tell you to do better and go as far as you can. 1.00
01:52:21.000 I don't tell you to go until you fucking kill yourself, until you get rhabdo. 1.00
01:52:25.000 But I will tell you this, Joe. 1.00
01:52:27.000 You will never, never in life meet a hater doing better than you.
01:52:34.000 That's a fact.
01:52:35.000 Ever. 0.95
01:52:36.000 So when I fucking realize that, and Jennifer gets so mad at the lies she hears and this and that, because it comes all through. 0.99
01:52:42.000 They spew it. 1.00
01:52:44.000 I told Jennifer that shit, man. 1.00
01:52:45.000 Stop. 1.00
01:52:47.000 Fucking calm down, bro. 1.00
01:52:48.000 Stop sending me that shit. 1.00
01:52:50.000 100% factual. 1.00
01:52:52.000 We were talking about in the bathroom earlier.
01:52:54.000 I was like, you got amount of bandwidth in your mind.
01:52:58.000 Whatever those units are, it's called 100. 100 of those things in your mind.
01:53:03.000 The moment you start entertaining haters, you start reading comments, you're stealing your bandwidth.
01:53:10.000 100%.
01:53:10.000 That you could apply to your loved ones, that you could apply to the thing that you love to do, that you could apply to making your life better.
01:53:18.000 You're stealing from yourself when you pay attention.
01:53:21.000 Like I was talking about, man, clearing that space out.
01:53:23.000 And that space allows you to make more room for what's important in your life. 0.99
01:53:28.000 If your mind's still cluttered, man, you can't do shit. 0.96
01:53:30.000 There's also a thing about you being a public person. 0.99
01:53:32.000 Being a public person, now you have access to way more haters than the average.
01:53:38.000 The average person knows a few haters. 0.97
01:53:40.000 Maybe if you're a good-looking woman, and you got some bitches in the office that like to talk shit about you, or if you're a guy who's getting after it early and being disciplined, and you make people intimidated by your ambition, you're gonna have some haters. 1.00
01:53:54.000 You're gonna have people lying about you. 0.99
01:53:56.000 But you have no idea what it's like to be a public person like yourself.
01:54:03.000 The kind of haters that you must experience because if you paid attention to them all day long, you would have no time for anything else. 0.99
01:54:11.000 No, I never get in 2013 when I was first, you know, Jennifer knows about this shit. 1.00
01:54:16.000 I cussed everybody. 0.99
01:54:18.000 We had this fucking roundtable and everybody was like, man, you have such a great story. 1.00
01:54:22.000 You need to tell it. 1.00
01:54:23.000 You need to get on social media and blah, blah, blah.
01:54:25.000 I cussed everybody out. 1.00
01:54:26.000 Fuck you. 1.00
01:54:27.000 I'm not fucking going on that fucking shit. 1.00
01:54:30.000 That's a bunch of bullshit. 1.00
01:54:32.000 Fucking lying. 1.00
01:54:32.000 It's the devil. 1.00
01:54:34.000 And the second I fucking got on that shit, dude, it is the fucking devil. 1.00
01:54:40.000 Instagram and social media, man. 1.00
01:54:42.000 I had this fucking kid, man, who fucking literally, the reason I talk about haters so much is this little boy, his parents reached out to me, and he was getting so much hate at school. 0.99
01:54:53.000 And we get so many emails, I can't check them all. 0.99
01:54:56.000 But I get to him, but later on, much like two or three months later.
01:55:01.000 So this guy wrote us and this kid was having a hard time with bullies.
01:55:06.000 And when I got to his email, I got to it, called his family up, said, hey, what's going on?
01:55:10.000 You know, it was David Goggins.
01:55:11.000 They were all happy to hear it.
01:55:13.000 He had killed himself. 1.00
01:55:15.000 So, like, in the back of my fucking mind, and what hurt me the most was when I read the fucking email... 1.00
01:55:26.000 Woo, shit! 1.00
01:55:28.000 Get my shit together. 1.00
01:55:29.000 I wasn't going to bring this shit up. 0.99
01:55:33.000 I read the email and they said, you can help our son. 0.99
01:55:38.000 Our son really admires you.
01:55:40.000 That's why I'm very vocal for a lot of reasons.
01:55:47.000 But I have to be strong because I know a lot of people aren't. 0.98
01:55:51.000 So, you know, that's why I don't cower from shit, you know, at all. 0.99
01:55:55.000 You want to fucking, you know, I take on whatever. 0.99
01:55:58.000 Whatever challenge is in front of me, I take it on because a lot of people don't have that courage. 0.99
01:56:02.000 And it's hard to be brave. 0.62
01:56:04.000 It's fucking hard to speak up for what you believe in. 0.92
01:56:07.000 And they wrote this great email to me. 0.99
01:56:11.000 And they want me to talk to their son.
01:56:13.000 His son was a big follower of mine.
01:56:15.000 And so I called and he's like, yeah.
01:56:18.000 And it was a silent, very silent pause.
01:56:23.000 And they told me what happened.
01:56:25.000 And he hung himself. 1.00
01:56:27.000 And I was like, it was fucked up. 0.99
01:56:30.000 So, you know, that's why another reason I hate being a public figure because it's not a public figure that I am. 0.98
01:56:38.000 Like, it's funny.
01:56:40.000 I hang around some people who are real public figures, you know, like celebrities.
01:56:45.000 And I have people coming to me first. 0.99
01:56:48.000 Like, I'm talking about famous motherfuckers. 0.98
01:56:51.000 People come to me first and they want to share their story in their life with me about how they changed. 0.99
01:56:58.000 That's a massive responsibility that people don't understand.
01:57:03.000 They come to you and they share the demons that they've gone through and the hardships that they've gone through.
01:57:10.000 And they say, you and your book and what you've done and your social media page.
01:57:16.000 That's why I make sure... 1.00
01:57:17.000 I want to go at people so hard, Joe, sometimes, man, for fucking talking their shit to me, man, and lying and shit. 1.00
01:57:23.000 I make sure that my social media only has, like, let's fucking get it today. 1.00
01:57:29.000 Let's fucking get it. 0.96
01:57:30.000 They go, man, why don't you follow anybody, man? 1.00
01:57:33.000 I'm not into that shit, dude. 1.00
01:57:34.000 I want you fuckers to understand, dude. 1.00
01:57:38.000 For you who aren't bitching and whining and complaining, I'm your biggest fucking cheerleader. 1.00
01:57:45.000 I want to see you do great. 1.00
01:57:47.000 And a lot of that shit comes from that fucking email from that kid who killed himself that I got two or three months too late. 1.00
01:57:54.000 And that fucking shit, every day I fucking wake up, I'm like, fuck, man. 1.00
01:57:58.000 Fuck. 1.00
01:57:59.000 I gotta be honest. 1.00
01:58:00.000 I gotta be right.
01:58:01.000 I gotta be better. 1.00
01:58:02.000 And that's when you know that when you're trying to do your best, your life sucks. 0.98
01:58:09.000 And people don't get that. 0.97
01:58:10.000 When you're trying to have the best character, when you're trying not to fucking lie, you're trying not to fucking put people down, you're trying to live, you're trying to set the standard. 0.99
01:58:19.000 When you're trying to be the standard, There's so much going wrong and going off in this world that if people can focus on themselves being better versus throwing hate and fucking all this shit that happens out there and people talking shit, 0.99
01:58:34.000 that's why I won't mention no motherfuckers names. 0.99
01:58:36.000 I'm not trying to hurt you, man. 0.99
01:58:38.000 But I'm trying to be the standard.
01:58:41.000 And sometimes life is just not fun when you're like, can't do that.
01:58:45.000 Can't say that.
01:58:47.000 Gotta watch out for that.
01:58:48.000 I gotta wake up today.
01:58:50.000 I gotta grind. 1.00
01:58:52.000 Because there may be a motherfucker out there that sees me in their fucking car that says, alright, I'm gonna go home and be better today. 1.00
01:58:58.000 So all these things are in my fucking mind. 1.00
01:59:00.000 Every fucking day I wake up. 1.00
01:59:02.000 Every fucking day. 0.99
01:59:03.000 And, you know, so, you know, I try to get to emails. 0.99
01:59:07.000 It's me and Jennifer. 0.99
01:59:09.000 But yeah, you know, people fucking, it's crazy, man. 0.98
01:59:12.000 People come up to me and tell me their stories, man. 0.99
01:59:13.000 It's fucking very humbling that this kid that came from fucking nothing is now helping people who, you know, Like, you know, it's just funny and people call me crazy a lot. 1.00
01:59:24.000 Man, you're so fucking crazy, but what you do? 0.99
01:59:27.000 And I look at him straight in the eye and I say, man, I'm not crazy. 1.00
01:59:30.000 I'm just not you.
01:59:32.000 I'm just not who you are, who you want to be. 0.98
01:59:34.000 I have a responsibility, man, and I gotta fucking take that seriously. 0.84
01:59:38.000 Well, people like to look at people that are pushing further than them and harder than them. 0.97
01:59:42.000 Like, there's something wrong with you.
01:59:44.000 Yep. 1.00
01:59:44.000 You must be crazy. 1.00
01:59:45.000 I'd be crazy. 1.00
01:59:47.000 Gotta be crazy.
01:59:48.000 I love crazy, though. 0.96
01:59:50.000 My favorite people are crazy. 0.93
01:59:52.000 Yes, I see that. 0.97
01:59:53.000 But I don't look at that as a negative.
01:59:55.000 No.
01:59:55.000 I look at it as a strength.
01:59:57.000 It is.
01:59:58.000 I see a person who's willing to go to that dark matter place, I go, oh, I like that. 0.99
02:00:02.000 Oh, yeah.
02:00:03.000 I like that.
02:00:03.000 But you went there during Sober October, man.
02:00:06.000 You went there.
02:00:07.000 You went there. 0.98
02:00:08.000 So how'd that feel, man, when you fucking were going into those journeys, into those compartments? 0.98
02:00:12.000 Well, what I like about it is that you had to do it every day. 0.98
02:00:15.000 You know, and so I just, every day, would, you know, know it was coming.
02:00:21.000 Okay, hey, all right, here we go.
02:00:23.000 Time to get going.
02:00:24.000 And every day, just get after it in some crazy way.
02:00:28.000 One of my favorite things is the thing that I hate the most.
02:00:31.000 It's Airdyne Sprints.
02:00:33.000 I'd do those Tabata sprints on the Airdyne machine. 0.99
02:00:36.000 Oh, the fucking Echo Bike? 0.98
02:00:38.000 Yeah, the Echo Bike from Rogue. 1.00
02:00:39.000 20-second sprints, 10-second rest.
02:00:42.000 And you do cycles of eight.
02:00:43.000 So eight rounds of that.
02:00:45.000 And then I would do another one, and another one, and another one.
02:00:48.000 I was doing an hour at that. 0.99
02:00:51.000 That's fucking brutal, bro. 0.99
02:00:52.000 It's so hard. 0.99
02:00:53.000 But when it was done, I'm standing in a puddle.
02:00:57.000 I'm completely drenched.
02:00:59.000 Right.
02:00:59.000 But that feeling of getting through this, because the last cycles, when you're doing, like, and you look, like, because the Rogue bike will show you, like, you've done three.
02:01:09.000 Right.
02:01:09.000 Which means you have to do five more of these sprints.
02:01:12.000 And that ten seconds is non-existent.
02:01:15.000 You're like...
02:01:21.000 It's so quick, and then you're back at it again.
02:01:23.000 Those last ones are so hard.
02:01:25.000 But when you get through it, the rest of the day is so much better.
02:01:29.000 That's like fight training, man.
02:01:30.000 Because the month of November, all I've been doing is drinking.
02:01:32.000 Really?
02:01:33.000 Oh, man.
02:01:34.000 I've been working out.
02:01:35.000 Still working out.
02:01:36.000 But we're doing a lot of drinking.
02:01:37.000 And I'm like, I gotta stop.
02:01:39.000 So I woke up today, because today's December 1st.
02:01:41.000 I'm like, I'm not drinking this month.
02:01:43.000 I'll have a glass of wine at Christmas or something like that, but this month I'm back to the grind.
02:01:48.000 Are you?
02:01:48.000 Yeah, yeah, because I enjoyed October.
02:01:51.000 The suck, when it's over, life is better. 0.96
02:01:57.000 You just gotta get through the suck and then life is better. 0.99
02:02:01.000 But the thing that gets me is the level of I don't give a fuck and the lack of anxiety that comes after you work out every day is so worth the workout. 0.99
02:02:14.000 You're so calm. 0.98
02:02:16.000 So calm. 1.00
02:02:16.000 The only thing that changes your fucking DNA It's discipline. 1.00
02:02:20.000 Yes. 1.00
02:02:21.000 Discipline is the only thing that changes your DNA, man.
02:02:23.000 This is the only thing.
02:02:24.000 Only thing, man. 1.00
02:02:25.000 You could be fucking so fucked up. 1.00
02:02:27.000 And I realized that, man. 1.00
02:02:27.000 I was like, man, the only thing that changed my DNA is discipline. 1.00
02:02:32.000 It's the only thing.
02:02:33.000 I've incorporated a new thing that I was telling you where I get up first thing in the morning, I get in the cold plunge.
02:02:38.000 Because I was doing the cold plunge after I did the sauna, and it's a little easier because the sauna sucks, but when that 20 minutes is up or 25 minutes is up and then you get in that cold, the cold sucks, but it doesn't suck as much as when you're cold and then you get in the cold. 0.96
02:02:55.000 So when I wake up in the morning, I don't dress warm, I wear my fucking underwear, and I go outside, and it's 40 degrees this morning, and I walk out, and I lift the lid on that Merazgo cold plunge, and I see the fucking ice floating up in there, and every day I climb in. 0.98
02:03:10.000 That's brutal. 0.99
02:03:11.000 And I just get in there for three minutes in the morning, and then I work out. 0.99
02:03:14.000 That's fucking brutal. 0.97
02:03:15.000 Well, because I read this thing... 0.99
02:03:17.000 I'll send it to you, Jamie, but I read this thing where they've been doing studies on what happens to people.
02:03:25.000 Andrew Huberman and I actually discussed this, and Huberman's a very interesting guy.
02:03:30.000 But it's about the benefits of cold plunge before you actually work out.
02:03:39.000 Really?
02:03:39.000 Yeah, because there's a benefit after you work out in terms of reduction of inflammation, but what they're saying is you shouldn't do it right after you lift weights.
02:03:49.000 Got it, got it.
02:03:50.000 Because then it actually decreases the hypertrophy, so you don't gain as much mass or gain as much strength.
02:03:58.000 But there's some benefit to doing it before you work out.
02:04:03.000 I think there's a link involved in that too.
02:04:08.000 So anyway, this is a guy who's talking about prostate-specific antigen blood tests came back very high, and everyone said that he had to get a biopsy.
02:04:20.000 And he said, the story I've heard about older men getting biopsies in prostatectomies sounded like nightmares to him, so he decided to try to manage his PSA with ketosis and ice baths.
02:04:33.000 So it worked.
02:04:34.000 His PSA dropped from over 7 to less than 1. And along the way, a funny thing happened to his testosterone.
02:04:40.000 It went through the roof to 1140, which is crazy high.
02:04:46.000 He said, my urologist didn't believe me.
02:04:48.000 He thought I must be juicing.
02:04:49.000 So he had my luteinizing hormones tested, too.
02:04:52.000 Sure enough, 8.9 is off the charts for a fat guy in his 50s.
02:04:58.000 He said, then I did a research and discovered a Japanese study from 1991 that showed the secret was exercising after your ice bath.
02:05:06.000 It's the opposite of what everybody says to do, which is exactly how I got this far in the first place.
02:05:12.000 He said, now I'm stuck with the T levels of an oversexed 19-year-old.
02:05:16.000 I'm not complaining. 1.00
02:05:17.000 Damn. 0.99
02:05:18.000 So this is the thing that people are realizing now. 0.99
02:05:22.000 There's some extreme benefit to heavy duty cold exposure.
02:05:31.000 Right.
02:05:31.000 And then you force your body to heat up and then you work out.
02:05:40.000 I'm trying that now, and I've only done it three days in a row.
02:05:43.000 How's it working?
02:05:44.000 It's working.
02:05:45.000 It's hard.
02:05:46.000 But part of it is just the fact that you have to do it in the morning.
02:05:51.000 I'm not giving myself any mornings off.
02:05:53.000 That's how I start my day now.
02:05:55.000 Whereas before, I was working out, so the workout, I eased myself into the workout, get on the bike, warm up, jump a little rope, start the kettlebell routine, do all the things you gotta do.
02:06:05.000 But now it's just right into the suck.
02:06:07.000 So it's harder. 1.00
02:06:08.000 I tell you right now, man, the fucking code... 0.99
02:06:11.000 Being in cold water, ice water, it literally is the one thing that makes you question everything. 0.99
02:06:19.000 When you're going through hard training and shit like that, I've been through a lot of different training in the military, and that cold water, it definitely, many dreams die while suffering. 0.60
02:06:32.000 That should be a t-shirt. 0.99
02:06:33.000 Many dreams die while suffering, my friend.
02:06:35.000 That's so true.
02:06:36.000 I talk about it, man. 1.00
02:06:37.000 Like, this fucking God's getting that water, and you see their fucking eyes roll back. 1.00
02:06:42.000 And I'm like, oh. 1.00
02:06:44.000 Yeah.
02:06:44.000 Many dreams die while suffering, friend.
02:06:46.000 Yeah.
02:06:47.000 I was trying to talk to Jamie about it.
02:06:49.000 Jamie... 0.99
02:06:50.000 It's fucking cold. 1.00
02:06:52.000 I'll do cold. 1.00
02:06:53.000 It's just like there's a level of cold.
02:06:55.000 I want to ease myself into it.
02:06:57.000 I don't want to just start in the worst.
02:06:59.000 That might be the best way to do it, Jamie.
02:07:01.000 Yeah, that's what I've been telling him. 1.00
02:07:02.000 He's got to jump in that bitch. 1.00
02:07:03.000 I just couldn't go like below my knees. 1.00
02:07:07.000 Just get his feet cold in there.
02:07:09.000 Hey man, once that pecker gets cold, boy, it's real.
02:07:12.000 I know, I know.
02:07:12.000 Yeah, it's all real.
02:07:14.000 I go right up to the chin.
02:07:15.000 I want that water right there.
02:07:16.000 That's legit right there, man.
02:07:18.000 If it's real legit, you go under.
02:07:21.000 Hickson Gracie, he puts a snorkel on.
02:07:23.000 Really?
02:07:23.000 Yeah.
02:07:24.000 Hickson gets in that water for a couple minutes under the water with the snorkel on. 1.00
02:07:28.000 He likes that shit, huh? 1.00
02:07:30.000 Hickson's an intense motherfucker. 1.00
02:07:31.000 Speaking of that, who's the best ever? 1.00
02:07:34.000 Ooh.
02:07:36.000 The best ever in MMA? Ever in MMA. It's hard to say.
02:07:41.000 There's a lot of candidates.
02:07:42.000 You know, I've always said Mighty Mouse is one of my best bets. 0.83
02:07:46.000 Because he was so goddamn good, and he's still so goddamn good.
02:07:49.000 But now he's fighting in one FC. But he was a flyweight champion for a long time, and he was the highest level of expression of mixed martial arts ability that I've ever seen. 0.91
02:08:00.000 But he's also fighting guys that are much lighter.
02:08:02.000 They're 125 pounds.
02:08:04.000 You know, everyone's very quick, but he was just so skillful.
02:08:08.000 But then there's Jon Jones.
02:08:10.000 Jon Jones really never lost. 1.00
02:08:12.000 That's a nasty motherfucker. 1.00
02:08:13.000 He's a nasty motherfucker. 1.00
02:08:14.000 And, you know, really, Jon Jones fucked off. 1.00
02:08:17.000 You want to talk about a guy who just did it by talent and will? 0.99
02:08:22.000 Jon Jones beat Alexander Gustafson without training.
02:08:24.000 It's unbelievable.
02:08:25.000 He basically didn't train.
02:08:26.000 There's a few guys like that. 0.96
02:08:27.000 There's a guy named Ryan Spann who's out there right now who just fucked up Dominic Reyes. 0.92
02:08:31.000 And Dominic Reyes was the one guy who took Jon Jones to the limit. 0.99
02:08:35.000 Dominic Reyes went on a series of losses after that fight, but he had this fight with Jon Jones and took Jon Jones to the fucking limit. 0.94
02:08:45.000 And a lot of people thought he won that decision.
02:08:48.000 Then he went on after that fight.
02:08:51.000 Got knocked out by Jan Blachowicz, who became the light heavyweight champion.
02:08:54.000 Got knocked out by Yuri Prohaska.
02:08:56.000 And then just got lit up by Ryan Spann.
02:08:59.000 And Ryan Spann is this guy who's always been ultra, ultra talented.
02:09:04.000 Right.
02:09:04.000 But just was always afraid of running out of gas.
02:09:07.000 Didn't train.
02:09:08.000 Didn't really put in camps.
02:09:09.000 Just had a lot of ability and a lot of technique.
02:09:12.000 Right.
02:09:12.000 In his last fight, he fought Dominic Reyes.
02:09:15.000 And he put in a full training camp for the first time ever. 0.79
02:09:18.000 And just fucked Dominic Reyes up. 0.97
02:09:21.000 Just lit him up like a Christmas tree in the first round and put him away. 0.97
02:09:24.000 So you're talking about a guy who beat, you know, in many people's eyes, should have won a decision against Jon Jones.
02:09:29.000 Right.
02:09:30.000 And then Ryan Spann just takes him out in the first round.
02:09:32.000 Easy.
02:09:33.000 Quick.
02:09:33.000 Because he finally worked hard.
02:09:36.000 Well, there's something about that full training camp, man.
02:09:38.000 Yes.
02:09:39.000 There's something about going out, no phone.
02:09:42.000 Yes. 1.00
02:09:43.000 Up in the fucking mountains. 1.00
02:09:44.000 Yes. 1.00
02:09:44.000 Away from civilization. 1.00
02:09:46.000 Yes.
02:09:46.000 Away from the bacon and eggs, the silk sheets.
02:09:49.000 Yes. 1.00
02:09:49.000 The fucking five-star resorts, the fucking everybody knowing you, signing autographs and shit. 1.00
02:09:54.000 Dark matter. 1.00
02:09:55.000 Dude, dark matter like a motherfucker. 1.00
02:09:57.000 The further you fucking drive out of your house and start going up in that fucking mountain, man, you start to... 1.00
02:10:04.000 That fucking mind starts to click over, man. 1.00
02:10:06.000 You get a full camp up in some fucking Dark Matter place, it's fucking over, bro. 1.00
02:10:10.000 There's a reason why so many guys would go up to Big Bear. 0.99
02:10:13.000 That's where Gennady Golovkin used to go up there. 1.00
02:10:16.000 Can't breathe in that motherfucker. 0.99
02:10:17.000 Muhammad Ali used to go to the Poconos. 1.00
02:10:20.000 Tyson, rather, would go to the Catskills.
02:10:22.000 A lot of guys would do that. 1.00
02:10:24.000 A lot of evil up in them fucking mountains, boring caskills. 1.00
02:10:26.000 It's also this nature. 1.00
02:10:28.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99
02:10:28.000 It's like nature doesn't give a fuck about you. 0.99
02:10:30.000 And there's something you realize when you're running a mountain and, you know, you see eagles flying. 0.99
02:10:35.000 Nobody gives a fuck about you. 0.95
02:10:36.000 No one. 0.96
02:10:37.000 There's no press.
02:10:37.000 No one's watching.
02:10:38.000 And that's a beautiful thing, man.
02:10:39.000 That's when you really know who you are.
02:10:41.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:10:42.000 When you get up there, there's no, like the coach is probably back a little bit and you got your little run by yourself and shit. 0.98
02:10:47.000 You figure out a lot. 0.99
02:10:49.000 You figure out a lot, man. 0.99
02:10:50.000 You start to figure out a lot of fucking problems up there by yourself. 0.99
02:10:53.000 Yeah. 0.96
02:10:54.000 To answer your question, I don't think there is a greatest ever.
02:10:59.000 Because there's different weight classes.
02:11:00.000 You're right.
02:11:01.000 Khabib definitely is in the conversation.
02:11:04.000 He's the only really elite guy to retire undefeated. 1.00
02:11:07.000 That's a nasty motherfucker, dude. 1.00
02:11:08.000 Oh, he was so good, dude. 1.00
02:11:10.000 Dude, there's something about looking at that motherfucker. 0.99
02:11:12.000 I love these guys who you can look in their eyes, you can tell something ain't right. 1.00
02:11:17.000 Hard as nails. 0.93
02:11:18.000 You can tell something's fucking right and something ain't right. 0.98
02:11:20.000 And that's in a good way, something ain't right. 0.98
02:11:22.000 When he fought Conor McGregor, and they were booing him at the weigh-ins, and he goes, I'm gonna smash your boy!
02:11:30.000 You should play that interview.
02:11:32.000 Play that interview, because when I'm talking to him, and they're all booing and she's like, they're all Conor McGregor fans.
02:11:39.000 They flew in from Ireland.
02:11:40.000 I mean, this is a big fight. 0.83
02:11:41.000 And he's like, I'm gonna smash your boy. 0.98
02:11:45.000 Alhamdulillah, I'm gonna smash your boy. 1.00
02:11:47.000 Play this. 0.99
02:11:50.000 Look at them booing him.
02:11:52.000 Khabib, what does this fight mean to you to defend your title tomorrow night?
02:11:57.000 It's so loud there.
02:11:58.000 That's why I'm screaming.
02:11:59.000 It's so loud.
02:12:00.000 First of all, I want to say alhamdulillah.
02:12:02.000 God give me everything.
02:12:04.000 Alhamdulillah.
02:12:05.000 I know you got this.
02:12:06.000 You don't like this.
02:12:08.000 Alhamdulillah. 0.99
02:12:09.000 Tomorrow night, I'm gonna smash your boy, guys. 0.99
02:12:12.000 I'm gonna smash your boy. 1.00
02:12:14.000 And... 0.98
02:12:16.000 I want to say thank you, all Irish fans, you know, all fans around the world.
02:12:22.000 Because of you guys, this fight has happened.
02:12:26.000 Thank you, guys, and tomorrow night, inshallah, and still.
02:12:29.000 Thank you, sir.
02:12:31.000 Good luck to you.
02:12:31.000 The champion, ladies and gentlemen!
02:12:33.000 Thank you all! 0.98
02:12:34.000 I'm gonna smash your boy. 0.99
02:12:38.000 Jesus. 0.98
02:12:38.000 And that's what he did. 0.98
02:12:40.000 He was on top of him, pounding him, going, let's talk now.
02:12:43.000 He was saying it during the fight?
02:12:45.000 Play that, play that.
02:12:47.000 He's on top of him, punching him in the face, going, let's talk, let's talk now. 0.99
02:12:52.000 Beating the fuck out of him. 1.00
02:12:53.000 That's some next level fucking shit, man. 1.00
02:12:56.000 Let's talk now, let's talk now. 1.00
02:12:57.000 And Connor was like, look at this.
02:13:04.000 We're talking.
02:13:05.000 Let's talk now.
02:13:06.000 Let's talk now.
02:13:07.000 Let's talk.
02:13:12.000 Let's talk now.
02:13:22.000 Khabib says, you tired?
02:13:26.000 Let's talk.
02:13:28.000 Jesus, dude. 1.00
02:13:29.000 He brought that shit to another level, man. 1.00
02:13:31.000 Yeah, well, he used that as fuel. 1.00
02:13:33.000 He took no fucking mental aid stations in that training camp. 0.99
02:13:36.000 No, no, no, no. 1.00
02:13:37.000 He was a bad motherfucker. 1.00
02:13:38.000 And then when his father died, He told his mother he was gonna fight one more time and that's it. 1.00
02:13:43.000 And so he's in his prime still.
02:13:45.000 Right now, he's in his physical prime.
02:13:48.000 And he's like, told his mom, he's done.
02:13:51.000 He's not coming back, you don't think?
02:13:52.000 Well, his protege is Islam Makachev, who's now the new UFC lightweight champion.
02:13:58.000 And Islam is as good as him in that same realm. 0.98
02:14:02.000 I mean, it remains to be seen whether or not Islam can have a reign the way he did, but he just beat Charles Oliveira as one of the best ever. 0.98
02:14:09.000 And he just ran through him to win the title.
02:14:11.000 That's a bad dude, too, man. 1.00
02:14:13.000 Oliveira's a bad motherfucker. 0.99
02:14:15.000 And Oliveira's an interesting case, too, because Oliveira used to be kind of a quitter. 1.00
02:14:19.000 Yeah, I know. 0.98
02:14:19.000 He kind of fell apart in many fights early in his career, and then he had the birth of his daughter, and then changed his fucking entire life. 0.98
02:14:28.000 Changed the way he fought, changed his mentality, changed his discipline and his focus, and then became this motherfucker who was just dominating everybody. 1.00
02:14:38.000 How old is he? 0.99
02:14:39.000 Olivera, I believe he's 33. See, find out if that's accurate.
02:14:43.000 So there's some old fighters right now who are still kicking ass? 0.96
02:14:47.000 Yes.
02:14:48.000 Jan Bojovic, Glover Teixeira just lost the light heavyweight title at 42. He won it at 42 and then lost it to Yuri Prohovska in a very, very close fight.
02:14:58.000 Yeah, he's 33. Olivera is 33. You know what's funny about that, man, about us these older guys who are still fucking grinding hard?
02:15:05.000 People are talking about father time. 0.90
02:15:07.000 Yeah.
02:15:07.000 Father time doesn't get you, man.
02:15:09.000 It's father fatigue.
02:15:11.000 Mmm.
02:15:12.000 It's father fatigue, man.
02:15:13.000 Like I see these guys who have been in sports for a long time, fighting a basketball football, whatever it is.
02:15:19.000 And it's that grind.
02:15:22.000 It's that everyday waking up grind.
02:15:25.000 It's not father time, man.
02:15:26.000 It's the fact that you know I gotta go do it again.
02:15:28.000 I gotta do it again.
02:15:29.000 So a lot of these guys are fighting father fatigue and they're doing a good job of doing it.
02:15:33.000 I think there's many factors.
02:15:34.000 There's father fatigue.
02:15:35.000 There's father enthusiasm.
02:15:37.000 That's right.
02:15:37.000 But then there's also injuries.
02:15:40.000 So many of these guys are fighting with fucked up backs and fucked up knees and fucked up elbows and fucked up hands. 1.00
02:15:46.000 And you don't know that when you see them because they look jacked and they look ripped. 1.00
02:15:50.000 Right. 1.00
02:15:50.000 In their head, they know, I got to be careful if I move to the side on my right side because my knee's fucked. 1.00
02:15:57.000 I know all about that. 1.00
02:15:58.000 I got to be careful if I get kicked in the legs because this is fucked. 1.00
02:16:01.000 That's real shit. 1.00
02:16:02.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:16:03.000 And there's a lot of guys that also been taking too many shots and they can't take a punch anymore.
02:16:08.000 That happens to guys.
02:16:09.000 And then you see they get dinged once and they get wobbly. 0.99
02:16:13.000 So what the fuck happens with that, man? 0.99
02:16:15.000 I started seeing guys who fucking didn't get hit a lot. 1.00
02:16:18.000 They can't take a hit anymore, man. 0.99
02:16:19.000 They'll fucking go out quick. 0.99
02:16:20.000 There's a lot of speculation, and one of the things they say is that they believe that at a certain point in time, your brain tries to protect you from the punishment, and just shut off. 0.99
02:16:31.000 Like, that your body realizes, like, this dude is too strong mentally.
02:16:36.000 He's too tough, and he'll just absorb shots, and it's just ruining our brain.
02:16:42.000 So when you get hit, your brain is like...
02:16:44.000 Check, please.
02:16:45.000 Wow. 0.97
02:16:45.000 And your brain will shut off. 0.97
02:16:47.000 And then the other, that's an optimistic perspective.
02:16:50.000 Got it. 0.99
02:16:50.000 The other less optimistic perspective is that you're destroying your mind and that your mind is simply not resilient anymore and you can't take a shot anymore because you've damaged all the connective tissue that's holding the fucking brain in place and you've also created so much CTE and so much swelling and so much that one shot can take you out. 0.99
02:17:10.000 There's also, on top of that, one of the big problems with MMA is the weight cutting.
02:17:14.000 So the weight cutting is what everybody does, they drain themselves 24 hours before the fight, weigh in, say, oh, he weighs 170 pounds.
02:17:23.000 Guys like Kamaru Usman, who's giant for 170, he's 170 for like 20 minutes.
02:17:29.000 How much does he weigh?
02:17:30.000 Kamaru, 200 pounds.
02:17:32.000 200 pounds, easy.
02:17:33.000 So does he come back in the ring about 190, 200?
02:17:36.000 He's in the 190s for sure. 0.99
02:17:38.000 Damn. 1.00
02:17:38.000 Lean as fuck, shredded. 1.00
02:17:40.000 Lean as a motherfucker. 1.00
02:17:41.000 But dehydrated like hell to make 170. He's not ever really 170. Wow. 1.00
02:17:47.000 He's 170, but like... 0.98
02:17:50.000 Totally sucked up. 0.97
02:17:51.000 I mean, also cramping, you know, it's terrible. 0.94
02:17:55.000 To do that 24 hours before you have a cage fight is so crazy. 0.99
02:17:59.000 It's fucked up. 0.97
02:18:00.000 So those take a toll. 0.99
02:18:02.000 So if you're 35, 37, 39, all these guys that have been doing that their whole life, every time you cut that weight, it takes a little chip off the old block.
02:18:15.000 Every time.
02:18:16.000 Every time.
02:18:17.000 It's another chop into the tree trunk.
02:18:19.000 It just weakens your foundation.
02:18:22.000 And it's just little minor things.
02:18:24.000 Every training camp you go through, you know, can you do another one? 1.00
02:18:28.000 You know, your back is fucked up. 0.99
02:18:29.000 You get out of bed like this, like, ah! 0.99
02:18:33.000 It's like little micro-injuries that are constantly piling up.
02:18:37.000 You know, we were talking about Hicks and Gracie earlier.
02:18:39.000 Hicks can't really even roll hard anymore.
02:18:42.000 He's in his 60s, and he's got these injuries all over his back. 0.98
02:18:45.000 It's all fucked up. 0.98
02:18:47.000 It's like... 0.99
02:18:47.000 All those years of jujitsu. 0.99
02:18:49.000 That Gracie shit's no joke, though. 1.00
02:18:51.000 Them motherfuckers, that family. 1.00
02:18:52.000 They changed the world. 1.00
02:18:53.000 The world. 1.00
02:18:54.000 This little 160-pound motherfucker, man. 1.00
02:18:58.000 This little motherfucker. 1.00
02:18:59.000 You can't even see him under some of these fat motherfuckers. 1.00
02:19:01.000 This fucking finger fucking locking you out, man. 1.00
02:19:05.000 Motherfucker gets you in a pinky lock, bro. 1.00
02:19:07.000 Like, where is he tapping from? 1.00
02:19:09.000 Why is he tapping?
02:19:09.000 I can't even see, you know, Gracie.
02:19:11.000 Got motherfucker in a pinky lock. 1.00
02:19:15.000 This shit was nasty, dude. 1.00
02:19:16.000 They taught the world jiu-jitsu. 1.00
02:19:18.000 The world didn't know.
02:19:19.000 Jiu-jitsu is the only martial art that people have ever experienced that did what was advertised.
02:19:26.000 Right.
02:19:26.000 And what was advertised was that a small, skillful person could beat a larger, stronger opponent who didn't know the techniques.
02:19:33.000 He proved it.
02:19:34.000 He proved it.
02:19:34.000 Boyce Gracie proved it in the UFC. And he changed martial arts forever.
02:19:38.000 And that family's probably the most consequential, the most important, significant family in the history of martial arts.
02:19:46.000 The Gracie family changed martial arts worldwide.
02:19:49.000 It's funny, man.
02:19:51.000 There's so many people out here who are very successful.
02:19:54.000 They talk about, I mean, super money, great family ownership.
02:19:58.000 They talk about that they're missing something.
02:20:00.000 That there's something in their life that they're missing. 1.00
02:20:03.000 And they talk to me about that shit. 1.00
02:20:06.000 And I mentioned the Gracies. 1.00
02:20:07.000 It seemed like they had this...
02:20:10.000 It went about money.
02:20:12.000 It went about nothing, man. 1.00
02:20:14.000 They're like grassroots motherfuckers. 1.00
02:20:16.000 And that's what I always tell people that they're missing. 1.00
02:20:19.000 Is that they're missing that desire. 0.98
02:20:21.000 Like, those guys had a passion and a fucking... 0.99
02:20:23.000 Obsession. 0.99
02:20:24.000 That's the word.
02:20:25.000 Yeah, obsession.
02:20:25.000 Obsession.
02:20:26.000 And I guarantee you, man, those motherfuckers don't have those conversations. 1.00
02:20:30.000 I feel like I'm missing something. 1.00
02:20:32.000 Right. 1.00
02:20:32.000 They're not missing shit, dude. 1.00
02:20:34.000 No. 1.00
02:20:35.000 No, they got it figured out, man.
02:20:37.000 Well, Hickson in particular, because Hickson was Hoyce's older brother, who was, everybody says, is the greatest of all time.
02:20:44.000 Really?
02:20:44.000 From that era.
02:20:45.000 Yeah.
02:20:46.000 He was...
02:20:47.000 There's never been a time, other than today, there's a time right now with Gordon Ryan, which is very rare. 0.98
02:20:53.000 It's very rare where someone comes along, And everybody says, this is the baddest motherfucker alive, no if, ands, or questions about. 0.93
02:21:01.000 And back then, when Hickson was in his prime, you ask any black belt anywhere in the world, they're like, Hickson's the man. 0.98
02:21:08.000 Hickson's the man.
02:21:09.000 He was a yogi.
02:21:11.000 He had all this crazy breath work that he would do.
02:21:14.000 He figured out the physical as well as the mental, far beyond where everybody else was willing to travel.
02:21:21.000 And there's a great documentary.
02:21:22.000 People are interested in Hicks and Gracie called Choke.
02:21:24.000 Hicks has been on the podcast a couple of times.
02:21:27.000 There's a great documentary called Choke that followed him when he was in his prime in the 1990s competing in Japan.
02:21:34.000 And one of the things he does in that documentary, he gets in a frozen glacial river and he just sits down. 0.92
02:21:40.000 He's meditating in this river up to his neck with this fucking 30 degree water just washing over him. 0.99
02:21:45.000 Beyond talent, bro. 0.99
02:21:46.000 And he's like, thank you, my lord.
02:21:48.000 Thank you, my lord.
02:21:49.000 And he's just taking it all in.
02:21:51.000 It's beyond talent.
02:21:52.000 That's badass.
02:21:53.000 There's so much involved.
02:21:55.000 There's talent, there's discipline, there's the mind, focus, and there's also the brilliance of his ability to interpret and understand technique.
02:22:06.000 Right.
02:22:06.000 There's so many things.
02:22:07.000 That's badass.
02:22:08.000 And this is the case with Gordon Ryan today, who's arguably the greatest of all time.
02:22:14.000 And Gordon is a lot bigger than everybody.
02:22:17.000 Hickson at his prime was about 200 pounds.
02:22:20.000 Gordon's like 240. Right.
02:22:21.000 And, you know, Gordon is utilizing modern training methods and 365 days a year he trains.
02:22:28.000 Doesn't take any days off.
02:22:29.000 This is Hickson and the frozen glacial river.
02:22:34.000 That's his brother, Hoyler, who's also one of the greats.
02:22:37.000 That's that Gracie family, man.
02:22:39.000 Never been a family like that.
02:22:40.000 No.
02:22:41.000 Never been a family like it in martial arts.
02:22:42.000 You just have like...
02:22:43.000 Never will be.
02:22:44.000 ...a army of killers.
02:22:45.000 That's it.
02:22:46.000 Yeah.
02:22:46.000 I mean, look at him.
02:22:47.000 There's your snorkel.
02:22:48.000 See what the snorkel?
02:22:49.000 Yep.
02:22:49.000 That's what he likes to do, is to get under that water.
02:22:51.000 And he does that with a cold plunge, too.
02:22:53.000 You know, it was crazy that so many people would never understand that kind of discipline or that kind of...
02:23:00.000 That kind of human being that wants to go to the stratosphere?
02:23:04.000 Yeah.
02:23:06.000 They'll always be misunderstood, man.
02:23:08.000 Always.
02:23:09.000 That's why a lot of times when I talk to people, I can't have a conversation with a lot of people, man, because you're going to walk away like...
02:23:17.000 Why do you do it, David?
02:23:18.000 Why don't you just take a break?
02:23:20.000 You deserve a break.
02:23:21.000 That's it.
02:23:22.000 David, take a nap.
02:23:23.000 That's it.
02:23:23.000 Did you ever have a piece of pie?
02:23:28.000 Why don't you put your feet up?
02:23:30.000 Why don't you rest a little?
02:23:31.000 You think one day you'll get fat?
02:23:32.000 That's it.
02:23:33.000 You should let yourself get fat. 1.00
02:23:34.000 Dude, you're being funny as fuck. 1.00
02:23:37.000 It's the truest of all fucking statements. 1.00
02:23:39.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99
02:23:39.000 Dude, I don't do nearly as much as you and I get it. 0.99
02:23:42.000 Dude, right.
02:23:43.000 I'm like, you would never understand.
02:23:46.000 That's why we would never talk.
02:23:48.000 Yeah.
02:23:48.000 You would never get it.
02:23:49.000 So that's why I don't have those conversations with people, man.
02:23:51.000 Those are brutal conversations with people.
02:23:53.000 They're like, what?
02:23:53.000 I don't understand what your motivation is.
02:23:55.000 What are you chasing?
02:23:57.000 I haven't been on a podcast in four years.
02:23:59.000 Are you insecure?
02:23:59.000 What are you insecure?
02:24:00.000 Where are you running from?
02:24:01.000 Where you running from, David?
02:24:03.000 Where you going?
02:24:04.000 You know, you can get there faster in a car.
02:24:06.000 Oh, I get that a lot.
02:24:08.000 That's the one I get a lot.
02:24:10.000 I get that a lot.
02:24:11.000 And they're joking.
02:24:12.000 I'm like... 0.99
02:24:14.000 And I don't find this shit funny. 1.00
02:24:15.000 I'm like, you motherfuckers, man. 1.00
02:24:17.000 It's so dumb. 1.00
02:24:17.000 It's dumb as fuck, man. 1.00
02:24:19.000 But whenever you're someone who's that wild, that far beyond where most people are willing to go... 1.00
02:24:26.000 You're gonna run into normies. 0.99
02:24:29.000 Well, it's like motherfuckers going to the circuit breaker, man, and they just go in there and start rewiring their brain. 1.00
02:24:33.000 They go in and say, like that motherfucker right there with the snorkel and shit. 1.00
02:24:37.000 Oh, no, man. 1.00
02:24:39.000 I gotta put this over here.
02:24:40.000 This circuit needs to be there.
02:24:42.000 It needs to be there. 0.87
02:24:43.000 You're totally rewiring how the whole brain works to not feel sorry for yourself, to ignore pain, to ignore discomfort, to push your mind in a place that people don't even fucking want to talk about.
02:24:54.000 They can't fathom.
02:24:55.000 And it's what you talk about with knowledge.
02:24:57.000 Yep.
02:24:57.000 That's what it is.
02:24:58.000 This is knowledge.
02:24:59.000 It's understanding of those feelings.
02:25:01.000 That's it.
02:25:02.000 And the only way you understand that those feelings are rare.
02:25:04.000 They don't come up all the time, all day long.
02:25:06.000 You wouldn't be able to deal with them.
02:25:08.000 Right.
02:25:08.000 So most people don't know what to do with those feelings.
02:25:11.000 They're not around them enough.
02:25:12.000 But you're around them constantly.
02:25:14.000 That's right.
02:25:14.000 Hickson was around them constantly.
02:25:16.000 Yeah.
02:25:16.000 It's like, get in those things, and then you learn about them.
02:25:19.000 You get a map of the territory.
02:25:21.000 That's it.
02:25:21.000 You get a blueprint.
02:25:22.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:25:22.000 And the second they surface, when you're fucking getting choked out, I've seen so many... 0.99
02:25:26.000 See, I love watching fights, man. 0.99
02:25:29.000 I see them, and I start to say, okay, you're in a bad situation, man. 0.99
02:25:33.000 And I see a couple guys getting ready to fucking tap. 0.99
02:25:36.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:25:36.000 And that one second decision, I call it... 0.99
02:25:38.000 Mm-hmm.
02:25:38.000 They're thinking, man, I gotta tap.
02:25:40.000 It's like...
02:25:41.000 And you see the hand motion like I'm about to tap, and it goes somewhere else. 1.00
02:25:45.000 Not today, motherfucker. 1.00
02:25:46.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:25:47.000 Because I've been here.
02:25:48.000 I've been here before. 1.00
02:25:49.000 I can last maybe just one more second, and this one second may get me out of this shit. 0.99
02:25:55.000 And I see how the mind is evolving in that one moment, that one quick moment. 1.00
02:26:00.000 I see that a million thoughts went through their fucking mind. 0.99
02:26:04.000 And it didn't tap. 0.99
02:26:05.000 I'm going to show you an example of that.
02:26:07.000 Brian Ortega vs.
02:26:09.000 Alexander Volkanovski.
02:26:10.000 Alexander Volkanovski almost gets tapped out.
02:26:13.000 Volkanovski is the next guy to fight Islam Makachev.
02:26:16.000 And Islam Makachev is Khabib's protege. 0.93
02:26:20.000 That's a bad boy.
02:26:22.000 Alexander Volkanovski is the 145-pound champion.
02:26:25.000 He's going up to 155. To try to fight Makachev and win the title at that weight.
02:26:29.000 So he fights this guy, Brian Ortega, who is a student of Huron and Henner Gracie.
02:26:34.000 Got it.
02:26:35.000 So he's an elite black belt.
02:26:37.000 And he gets... 1.00
02:26:38.000 Brian Ortega gets Volkanovski in this guillotine choke, a mounted guillotine choke, which is the nastiest shit ever. 1.00
02:26:45.000 And this guy is a fucking strangulation expert. 1.00
02:26:49.000 And Volkanovski is stuck. 1.00
02:26:52.000 Here he is.
02:26:52.000 Give me some volume.
02:26:53.000 Give me some volume here.
02:26:57.000 There's his mind.
02:26:59.000 And he got out.
02:27:00.000 See?
02:27:00.000 And he got out.
02:27:01.000 He was so close.
02:27:03.000 You hear Paul Felder saying he might go to sleep.
02:27:11.000 So he almost catches him here now in a Darce. 0.95
02:27:16.000 And Volkanovski winds up on top.
02:27:19.000 That's so badass.
02:27:19.000 And when he gets on top, he just starts hammering them.
02:27:24.000 I mean, this fight is one of the best examples.
02:27:27.000 You want to watch this fight?
02:27:29.000 You want to talk about will and warrior spirit?
02:27:32.000 This is one of the best fights ever for both guys. 0.99
02:27:35.000 Because Ortega, like, going into the fourth round, you're like, how is this motherfucker surviving? 0.99
02:27:40.000 And then he comes out in the fifth round, guns blazing. 0.99
02:27:43.000 See? 1.00
02:27:44.000 Both these guys just drained the fucking gas tank in this fight. 1.00
02:27:47.000 It was an amazing, amazing, amazing fight. 1.00
02:27:49.000 Now, what he should have did after that, he should have gone home And wrote that shit out. 0.99
02:27:53.000 Because in that moment, if he could even think about it, the knowledge he gained in that moment, priceless. 0.99
02:27:59.000 What was happening when you almost tapped?
02:28:02.000 And I'm not talking about this surface conversation.
02:28:04.000 That's beautiful to me. 1.00
02:28:06.000 I study that shit so much. 1.00
02:28:09.000 You were in a horrible situation. 1.00
02:28:10.000 I know you were like, I gotta tap, I gotta tap, I gotta tap.
02:28:13.000 But if you break that down, really break it down to the smallest molecule possible, your mind went through so many things that allowed you to not Tap.
02:28:23.000 You gotta study that, man.
02:28:25.000 That right there is so much.
02:28:26.000 That's beautiful.
02:28:28.000 That's beauty right there at work.
02:28:30.000 Beauty at work. 0.99
02:28:31.000 It is, because for that man, I mean, Volkanovski, he walked out of there with his fucking belt, with the victory, the cheers, the roars, the crowd, goes back home. 1.00
02:28:40.000 He fucking did it. 0.99
02:28:41.000 It's amazing. 1.00
02:28:42.000 But he owned.
02:28:43.000 Almost didn't.
02:28:43.000 See?
02:28:44.000 He got to the door of death.
02:28:45.000 See?
02:28:46.000 It's that one second decision.
02:28:47.000 Yes. 1.00
02:28:48.000 That one second decision I talk about in this motherfucker right here. 0.99
02:28:51.000 Yes. 0.99
02:28:51.000 You get there and you want to quit and you don't. 0.99
02:28:55.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:28:55.000 And you're never fucking getting through it, man. 0.99
02:28:57.000 Well, that's the thing is like your book... 0.98
02:29:00.000 Can give people, even if they don't get a map of the territory, they're getting directions.
02:29:06.000 You want to go to I-95, go about 10 miles down, when you see Woodland Hills Road, take a right.
02:29:13.000 You might not be giving them a map, because I think the map has to be acquired, personally.
02:29:17.000 100%.
02:29:18.000 But you're giving them directions.
02:29:20.000 That's it.
02:29:21.000 You're saying, this is how I got through.
02:29:23.000 This is how I developed my map.
02:29:26.000 People want to hand it to them.
02:29:27.000 I can't hand it to you.
02:29:28.000 You can't, but you can give them something.
02:29:30.000 When I texted you, I was in the middle of the book. 0.99
02:29:33.000 I was like, I can run through a fucking wall right now. 0.98
02:29:36.000 Because that's what it feels like. 0.99
02:29:37.000 I love that.
02:29:38.000 There's something about the way you describe things and the way you're so honest and so personal about it.
02:29:45.000 Especially the audio version of it and then when you do the podcast so the way the audio is a special treat because it's the book and then with each individual chapter you have a small podcast where you and your co-writer break down what it was like for you and what was happening and what you were feeling and it allows you to do it in an unscripted way so you could really and you're so honest about it It just gives
02:30:15.000 you an understanding of that discomfort is unavoidable.
02:30:20.000 And that trying to avoid discomfort just brings you more discomfort.
02:30:24.000 And you don't realize it, it just brings you this long-term dull discomfort.
02:30:28.000 As opposed to this searing pain of like mid-struggle discomfort, which is what everybody's trying to avoid.
02:30:36.000 But you're still gonna get discomfort.
02:30:38.000 You're just gonna get this, I coulda, shoulda, woulda been, Discomfort, which is maybe worse.
02:30:43.000 You're right.
02:30:44.000 It might be worse.
02:30:45.000 It just makes it a little easier.
02:30:47.000 That's all the repetitions do, man.
02:30:50.000 It doesn't take away the pain.
02:30:52.000 It doesn't take away the suffering.
02:30:53.000 No.
02:30:54.000 You just studied it.
02:30:55.000 You know it.
02:30:55.000 You know how it feels.
02:30:56.000 Yeah.
02:30:57.000 You know when to breathe, when not to breathe.
02:30:59.000 You know all these different things.
02:31:00.000 You've been there.
02:31:01.000 You've visited.
02:31:02.000 You've lived there for a long period of time.
02:31:05.000 And that's why I like this book so much is because Can't Hurt Me was like a bachelor's degree.
02:31:11.000 It was like the surface level of David Goggins and some things that can help you out.
02:31:15.000 This to me is a master's degree.
02:31:17.000 This book right here takes you to another level of the mind and how you think. 0.97
02:31:22.000 That's why I say this ain't no fucking self-help book. 0.99
02:31:25.000 This is a what the fuck are you doing with your life book. 0.99
02:31:28.000 And that's why that's so important. 0.99
02:31:29.000 What are you doing with your life, man?
02:31:31.000 Why are you sitting around? 1.00
02:31:32.000 Why are you waiting for shit to happen? 0.99
02:31:34.000 It ain't gonna happen like that. 0.99
02:31:35.000 Why are you feeling sorry for yourself? 0.99
02:31:37.000 Why are you waiting for that fucking apology that's never gonna fucking come? 0.99
02:31:40.000 People sit around waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and blaming and blaming and they're waiting with a hand out. 1.00
02:31:46.000 Yeah.
02:31:47.000 COVID happened and everybody's hands out now.
02:31:49.000 Hands out.
02:31:50.000 And you see how it changed sort of the tone of the country.
02:31:53.000 It did.
02:31:53.000 And it made people feel entitled, like they deserve something.
02:31:57.000 Yep.
02:31:58.000 That's right. 1.00
02:31:59.000 You don't deserve shit. 1.00
02:32:00.000 You don't deserve shit. 1.00
02:32:01.000 And that's the one thing that I knew and I found out. 1.00
02:32:04.000 Here's the worst part. 1.00
02:32:04.000 If they give you shit, You're going to be even more miserable. 1.00
02:32:08.000 Oh. 1.00
02:32:09.000 That's a true statement.
02:32:11.000 Isn't it a true statement?
02:32:11.000 It's a true statement, man.
02:32:12.000 Everybody wants the government to come along and help them.
02:32:14.000 It's a true statement.
02:32:15.000 Someone to come along and give you things.
02:32:17.000 I should get things.
02:32:18.000 You should redistribute wealth.
02:32:19.000 You're not going to be happy.
02:32:21.000 Nope.
02:32:21.000 You're not.
02:32:22.000 You got to go get it.
02:32:23.000 No. 1.00
02:32:23.000 You're going to always wonder, well, I have all this fucking money. 1.00
02:32:26.000 Why do I feel like I said, I feel like I'm missing something. 0.99
02:32:29.000 Right.
02:32:30.000 Because you didn't go out and achieve it on your own.
02:32:34.000 It's like a man who inherited money.
02:32:35.000 That's it.
02:32:36.000 They're always missing something.
02:32:37.000 Big time.
02:32:37.000 There's something wrong with them.
02:32:39.000 Someone gift wrapped you some shit. 1.00
02:32:40.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:32:41.000 And now you're just a bitch. 1.00
02:32:42.000 Now you're like a half a man. 1.00
02:32:43.000 That's it.
02:32:44.000 You look like a man, but you're like one of them Easter buddy candy things.
02:32:49.000 You know those chocolate Easter bunnies?
02:32:51.000 That's it. 1.00
02:32:52.000 You try to bite into it and go, this bitch is hollow. 1.00
02:32:54.000 I have to fuck them shits up now, 3-hundo. 1.00
02:32:56.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:32:57.000 Well, I loved them when they were solid.
02:32:59.000 When you got a solid one.
02:32:59.000 Oh, yeah.
02:33:00.000 Ooh, look at those solid. 1.00
02:33:01.000 A lot more calories, a lot more snacks than that bitch. 1.00
02:33:03.000 Yeah, that's a solid Easter bunny. 1.00
02:33:05.000 But when you bite into one and just destroy, aw. 1.00
02:33:09.000 Fuck up your teeth. 1.00
02:33:11.000 This is a fucking hollow one. 1.00
02:33:13.000 Yes, sir. 1.00
02:33:13.000 Yeah, a lot of people are hollow Easter bunnies. 1.00
02:33:16.000 A lot of people are hollow inside, too.
02:33:18.000 Yeah.
02:33:19.000 But you don't have to be.
02:33:20.000 No. 0.97
02:33:21.000 The beautiful thing of your story is that you started out fucked up and sad and couldn't do anything and you transformed yourself. 0.93
02:33:32.000 So people don't think, like, this guy's just always been hard from the cradle to the grave. 0.86
02:33:37.000 You turned yourself into this, which is the real...
02:33:40.000 That's the story that gives people hope.
02:33:43.000 You can truly develop otherworldly discipline.
02:33:47.000 It's possible to develop otherworldly mental strength.
02:33:50.000 Well, we change everything.
02:33:52.000 We change our car.
02:33:53.000 We change our house.
02:33:54.000 Sometimes we change our wife or husband.
02:33:56.000 We change our underwear.
02:33:57.000 We change everything in our lives.
02:33:59.000 Change our hair.
02:34:00.000 Change how we look.
02:34:01.000 Change everything.
02:34:02.000 But very few of us change how we think.
02:34:06.000 And that's the one problem with a lot of people.
02:34:08.000 They're not willing to change how they think. 1.00
02:34:10.000 You're not going to evolve if you continue thinking the same fucking way. 0.99
02:34:14.000 So a lot of people have a problem with that. 0.99
02:34:16.000 So I'm always trying to evolve in some way.
02:34:19.000 I'm never wearing the same underwear every day. 0.99
02:34:22.000 I'm always changing that bitch. 1.00
02:34:24.000 Never finished. 0.99
02:34:25.000 It's out right now, ladies and gentlemen.
02:34:26.000 I can't recommend it enough. 0.99
02:34:28.000 It's a fucking fantastic book. 0.99
02:34:30.000 As good, if not better, than Can't Hurt Me. 0.99
02:34:32.000 You're the man, brother.
02:34:33.000 Appreciate you very much.
02:34:35.000 Thank you, Joe.
02:34:35.000 Bye, everybody.