The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #241 - James "Bobo" Fay

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00:00:23.000 If you want to get yourself into caveman shape, if you want to train like Brock Lesnar does in the countdown shows, if you want to Do some manly man working out. 0.99

00:00:31.000 Or if your girlfriend has big boobs, it's probably cool to watch her do it. 1.00

00:00:34.000 Oh, the ropes? 0.99

00:00:35.000 Yeah.

00:00:36.000 You don't want to watch the kettlebells.

00:00:37.000 What if she accidentally slams them in?

00:00:39.000 Chips her teeth. 0.96

00:00:40.000 And bruises them.

00:00:41.000 If you've never seen kettlebells before, they look like a cannonball with a handle on it.

00:00:46.000 It's, in my opinion, the most effective way to produce functional strength for martial arts, especially for Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai and things like that.

00:00:56.000 That's mostly what I do for my strength and conditioning.

00:01:00.000 Kettlebells, and I do bodyweight squats and chin-ups and stuff like that, and dips.

00:01:07.000 It's a brutal, brutal way to work out.

00:01:10.000 There's one DVD that I recommend always to everybody.

00:01:12.000 If you can get it, it's all sold out now because I recommend it so much.

00:01:15.000 Really?

00:01:15.000 Yeah, it's called the Extreme Kettlebell Cardio Workout.

00:01:17.000 This guy kicks your ass with one kettlebell. 1.00

00:01:20.000 It's like one 35-pound kettlebell, and it's fucking brutal. 1.00

00:01:23.000 You'd think, I'm a manly man. 1.00

00:01:24.000 A 35-pound kettlebell, what kind of a fucking pussy workout am I going to get with that Trust me. 1.00

00:01:29.000 You'll get a workout, a brutal workout with just bodyweight squats. 0.99

00:01:32.000 Just look up Hindu squats, do 200 of them in a row, and get back to me. 1.00

00:01:36.000 See what I'm talking about, bitch? 1.00

00:01:38.000 We're talking crazy shit here today. 0.99

00:01:40.000 I'm getting fired up, ladies and gentlemen, because James Bobo Fay is on the podcast. 1.00

00:01:46.000 We're going to talk some Bigfoot, you sons of bitches. 1.00

00:01:48.000 We're going to get down to the nitty gritty. 1.00

00:01:50.000 We're going to let people know what the fuck ticks. 0.99

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00:02:14.000 All right, James Bobo Faye is here.

00:02:15.000 And his dog's here.

00:02:16.000 What's your dog's name again, man?

00:02:17.000 Monkey?

00:02:17.000 Monkey.

00:02:18.000 Monkey's here.

00:02:18.000 Hey, Monkey.

00:02:19.000 All right, let's get this motherfucker started, Brian. 0.99

00:02:22.000 She's actually a squash tracking dog. 0.99

00:02:24.000 An official squash tracking dog.

00:02:26.000 The Joe Rogan experience.

00:02:28.000 Train by day.

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00:02:33.000 Dude.

00:02:36.000 That's a new one.

00:02:37.000 I'm not sure I like it.

00:02:38.000 That new fade-out you do at the end, you crafty devil.

00:02:41.000 That's a Squatch-trained dog, ladies and gentlemen.

00:02:43.000 If you hear a dog or see a dog, if you're watching us on Ustream or Vimeo, and you see a dog in the background, that is actually a Squatch-trained dog.

00:02:50.000 And this is an official Squatch hat.

00:02:54.000 This is a gone Squatchin' hat.

00:02:55.000 Can you sell these?

00:02:56.000 Because if you don't, you should. 1.00

00:02:57.000 Because they'll sell like fucking crazy. 0.99

00:02:59.000 I thought Animal Planet... 0.99

00:03:01.000 Trademarked it.

00:03:02.000 They thought I did.

00:03:03.000 Oh, so nobody did?

00:03:04.000 Did somebody else trademark it?

00:03:06.000 Buy some guy in Taiwan now. 1.00

00:03:08.000 Oh, those sons of bitches. 1.00

00:03:09.000 Just fucking sell it and make them sue you. 1.00

00:03:11.000 Dude, because everybody would want an official Bobo gone squatching hat. 1.00

00:03:14.000 They sold tens of thousands on Cafe Press.

00:03:19.000 Cafe Press, though, like, anybody could go on Cafe Press and pretty much, like, make your own shirt, though, right?

00:03:25.000 Yeah.

00:03:26.000 Last time I looked, there was, like, 670 websites selling those hats.

00:03:30.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:03:32.000 I know.

00:03:32.000 Dude, you've created, like, are you looking at your Twitter right now?

00:03:36.000 Oh, no. 0.99

00:03:37.000 I fucking... 0.98

00:03:38.000 Oh, sorry. 0.99

00:03:38.000 I promised my buddy I'd text him when it started because they were driving. 0.99

00:03:42.000 Are you trying to text him right now?

00:03:43.000 I would say it's on.

00:03:44.000 It's on.

00:03:45.000 When I was a little kid, I went camping with my parents.

00:03:48.000 I was probably like six.

00:03:50.000 And we were in Yosemite.

00:03:53.000 And I met a dude who was a trapper. 1.00

00:03:55.000 He gave me like some stinky fucking feet of like animals. 0.99

00:03:59.000 He killed like bobcats and stuff. 0.99

00:04:01.000 But when you're six, it's badass.

00:04:04.000 You're like, whoa, this is cool.

00:04:06.000 But, you know, that's when I got obsessed with Bigfoot, was talking to this guy.

00:04:10.000 Because he 100% believed in Sasquatches.

00:04:14.000 And I remember I was six years old when he told me this.

00:04:18.000 He was just saying that the woods are so dense, there's no way everybody's been to every part of it.

00:04:23.000 There's no way.

00:04:24.000 He's like, if you fly over the Pacific Northwest, I guess that's the only time where you really get a true sense of how dense it is.

00:04:30.000 Because we kind of think of it like...

00:04:32.000 Especially the Pacific Northwest, we kind of think of it as like, you know, yeah, there's Seattle, and there's Portland, and there's some cities up there, and I guess there's highways. 0.95

00:04:41.000 Dude, a giant chunk of that is just fucking dense rainforest.

00:04:47.000 A lot of people are not aware of that, and that's the majority of sightings in America, right? 0.89

00:04:54.000 The most, but what people trip on is they're all, they're continent-wide.

00:04:58.000 They're worldwide.

00:04:59.000 How is it possible that something could be continent-wide and the only video footage available in 2012 is that shitty Patterson film? 0.66

00:05:07.000 Whoa! 0.96

00:05:09.000 Patterson, I think he's a fraud, dude.

00:05:11.000 No!

00:05:12.000 What happened?

00:05:13.000 We lose the camera?

00:05:14.000 You think it's real?

00:05:15.000 Dude, I was just with Bob Gimlin.

00:05:17.000 That was a very emotional response.

00:05:20.000 See that?

00:05:21.000 If you were to sit your dad outside, deliver the table.

00:05:24.000 No, I'm saying, wasn't Patterson known to be a con man?

00:05:28.000 Listen, I believe firmly, Jane Goodall believes 100% that there's a Sasquatch.

00:05:34.000 I believe very firmly it's very possible.

00:05:36.000 I think that if they found one, all of a sudden people would start, you know, it would make sense to people.

00:05:42.000 There's all sorts of primates all over this planet.

00:05:45.000 And they know that Gigantopithecus lived with people in Asia, like, you know, thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago. 0.98

00:05:53.000 And the real legit scientists that talk about Bigfoot say it's very possible that an animal came down with humans during the Bering Strait But, you know, realize humans are cunts. 1.00

00:06:05.000 They're a pain in the ass. 1.00

00:06:06.000 They'll fucking shoot you. 1.00

00:06:07.000 They stab you. 1.00

00:06:08.000 They make rugs on you. 0.98

00:06:08.000 Let's hide. 0.98

00:06:09.000 Exactly.

00:06:10.000 Let's go hide in the woods.

00:06:11.000 Show me a big animal that we don't kill out in the woods.

00:06:14.000 It's true. 0.99

00:06:14.000 Oh, we would definitely kill one. 0.99

00:06:16.000 For sure. 1.00

00:06:16.000 Well, they have been killed. 1.00

00:06:17.000 There's a guy who's on YouTube right now.

00:06:19.000 I'm subscribed to the Bigfoot Report on YouTube.

00:06:22.000 You know, whenever a new video comes up, they'll send me an email.

00:06:25.000 But there's a guy who claims he killed Bigfoot.

00:06:28.000 He did.

00:06:28.000 You really think so?

00:06:29.000 I bought that camera because I got invited to go on the body recovery mission last year, and it's a real story.

00:06:37.000 But where's the body?

00:06:40.000 What happened was, I'll just give it a rundown real quick.

00:06:42.000 I'm actually friends with the guy.

00:06:43.000 I thought I'd never be friends with the guy that shot a squash.

00:06:46.000 He shot the baby, right?

00:06:47.000 Yeah, he shot a doll and a baby.

00:06:49.000 First, what happened, they were driving, they were doing a U-turn.

00:06:52.000 They just saw a warden, and they were doing a U-turn way up in the Sierra Nevada.

00:06:57.000 It was about 8,500 feet.

00:06:58.000 It was like Halloween, I think, or the day before Halloween.

00:07:00.000 The Sierra Nevadas are in California?

00:07:02.000 Yeah.

00:07:03.000 The huge mountains, like Tahoe, all the way down to Kern County.

00:07:08.000 What is it?

00:07:09.000 Yeah, they run from Kern County up to Oregon border, basically.

00:07:12.000 Okay.

00:07:12.000 And that area, though, like Northern California?

00:07:14.000 It's like 400 miles long and 50 miles wide.

00:07:16.000 That's a big Bigfoot sighting area, right?

00:07:18.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:07:19.000 So this guy didn't believe in Bigfoot or anything.

00:07:21.000 He's a total redneck, like... 1.00

00:07:23.000 Like, likes to just kill shit out in the woods. 1.00

00:07:25.000 Right. 1.00

00:07:26.000 And the big adult came out and was waving its hands and wiggling its fingers.

00:07:30.000 They'll wave their hands and wiggle their fingers to show that they're not bears.

00:07:33.000 We think.

00:07:34.000 I mean, they're pretty smart.

00:07:35.000 They're like people.

00:07:36.000 So...

00:07:38.000 He draws a beat on it.

00:07:39.000 His buddy had just come back.

00:07:40.000 This guy, Jack, had just come back from Iraq and Afghanistan combat vet.

00:07:43.000 He just was over seeing stuff shot.

00:07:45.000 First, he said, don't shoot it.

00:07:47.000 It could be a person in a suit.

00:07:49.000 Justin was looking through the scope, and he's looking at it going, it's not a person.

00:07:52.000 He could see it through the scope.

00:07:54.000 It was a squatch.

00:07:56.000 But it wasn't one of those big buff ones.

00:07:57.000 He said it looked real frumpy, kind of like saggy, like wasn't sure if it was older or what.

00:08:02.000 So he started squeezing one off, and when the thing realized he was going to pull the trigger because they were locking eyes, he turned and he shot it through the ribs, like lung shot, and it dropped, went down like to a sprinter position, then got up and sprinted super fast, stumbled once.

00:08:19.000 And they went crashing down on this Manzanita.

00:08:22.000 Well, they get out of the truck and they're walking down there.

00:08:24.000 They never even thought of Bigfoot.

00:08:26.000 They're walking down there. 1.00

00:08:27.000 They're tripping balls. 1.00

00:08:28.000 They just saw a huge thing. 1.00

00:08:30.000 They called it a monster, shot it.

00:08:32.000 It ran off.

00:08:32.000 They're looking for the ball.

00:08:33.000 They heard it crash down on the brush.

00:08:34.000 This guy's a registered bear hunting guide.

00:08:37.000 So he said he could tell it.

00:08:38.000 That was the sound it makes when it crashes.

00:08:41.000 Well, they got about 40 yards.

00:08:42.000 It was about 70, 80 yards when he shot it.

00:08:44.000 They got about 40 yards there.

00:08:45.000 And right where the thing was around, two identical twin babies, like the size of three or four-year-old kids, but with way bigger heads, came out of the brush and were running around looking for the parent.

00:08:57.000 And they were running back and forth.

00:08:59.000 He was going to shoot one of the babies right off the bat, and his buddy wouldn't let him.

00:09:02.000 I kept yelling, don't. 0.98

00:09:02.000 Don't do it. 0.98

00:09:03.000 I'll kick your ass. 1.00

00:09:04.000 You shoot that thing. 1.00

00:09:04.000 Don't shoot it. 1.00

00:09:06.000 Things were running around for like 10 minutes.

00:09:08.000 They couldn't find the adult.

00:09:09.000 Then they realized, okay, there's two babies and they were identical twins.

00:09:11.000 They'd run around.

00:09:12.000 They'd sniff the ground and look around on all fours, like totally, totally comfortable on all fours, like quadruped, you know, just run around.

00:09:19.000 When they came near each other, they'd get up on two legs and they'd come up face to face.

00:09:22.000 And he said, they sound like two profoundly mute people talking.

00:09:25.000 They go, like just real guttural sounds.

00:09:29.000 But like he said, like a language.

00:09:31.000 And they'd get back down.

00:09:31.000 They were moving down.

00:09:32.000 And they were working their way towards where they heard the body crash. 1.00

00:09:35.000 And they realized, well, shit. 1.00

00:09:36.000 They thought it was they shot the mom. 1.00

00:09:38.000 So they're like, well, if we just shot the mom, then daddy's probably around.

00:09:41.000 Like, this thing's eight foot.

00:09:42.000 What they shot was probably eight foot tall, 600 pounds. 0.99

00:09:46.000 Sort of thinking, well, shit's getting dark. 0.99

00:09:47.000 We don't want to be here. 0.98

00:09:49.000 And Jack and Justin split up because they're covering different territory.

00:09:53.000 And one of the little babies came up, like, where that wall is and just stood on this rise.

00:09:56.000 We went to the spot with him.

00:09:58.000 We went, like, Dr. Meldrum went, and Mayan Chinsky, like, the big-name guys, scientists.

00:10:03.000 We went out there when the snow melted the next summer.

00:10:05.000 Are these the big-name guys that believe in Bigfoot?

00:10:08.000 Oh, yeah.

00:10:09.000 Well, no. 1.00

00:10:10.000 Belief's for shit you can't see, right? 1.00

00:10:12.000 No. 1.00

00:10:12.000 Well, they know it exists. 1.00

00:10:14.000 Well, like people believe in Jesus, but I never found like a Jesus hair or a Jesus track or a Jesus shit in the woods, you know, or Jesus killed an elk or anything.

00:10:21.000 What have you found personally? 0.97

00:10:22.000 So you're saying, let's go finish the story because this guy shot one of the babies. 1.00

00:10:26.000 First of all, what a dick. 1.00

00:10:28.000 I know. 1.00

00:10:30.000 He feels bad now, but I... I couldn't even tell that story, you know?

00:10:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:10:35.000 Why the fuck would you shoot a baby? 1.00

00:10:37.000 I know, dude. 1.00

00:10:38.000 Well, he wanted to prove the story was real. 1.00

00:10:41.000 He's just a redneck dude that kills shit for fun. 1.00

00:10:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:10:44.000 That kind of mindset, you know? 1.00

00:10:45.000 He's not a bad dude.

00:10:46.000 That's just how he was raised. 1.00

00:10:48.000 And he's actually a smart dude when you get to talk to him because you think he's just some dumb shit redneck. 0.99

00:10:53.000 When you talk to the guy, he's a pretty sharp dude. 0.99

00:10:54.000 But why didn't he take a video?

00:10:56.000 They didn't have a camera.

00:10:57.000 He didn't have a cell phone with him?

00:11:00.000 These dudes are pretty redneck. 0.97

00:11:01.000 It's 2012. Yeah, this was October 2000. Whatever.

00:11:05.000 11, 10. Right.

00:11:06.000 How could you not have a cell phone?

00:11:09.000 Dude, I'm not justifying what he did.

00:11:11.000 I'm just saying what happened. 0.99

00:11:11.000 I watched his video and my bullshit alarm went off. 0.99

00:11:13.000 Oh, no, dude. 0.99

00:11:15.000 Well, I'll tell you what happened.

00:11:16.000 So he shot it in the thing.

00:11:17.000 It rolled down the hill. 0.69

00:11:18.000 He picked it up and just watched it die in its hands.

00:11:22.000 Then his buddy started screaming at him.

00:11:24.000 He said he stuck the body into this bush.

00:11:26.000 They took off, got out of there, and they were on a hunting website.

00:11:30.000 And one of our buddies, Derek Randall, talked to him on the website, whatever, like a chat room for hunters.

00:11:36.000 He's like, I shot a couple.

00:11:37.000 He kind of joked and said, how would you mount a Bigfoot?

00:11:39.000 And then he's all, no, I really did.

00:11:41.000 I really did.

00:11:41.000 He's all, dude, you look at that body, I'll give you a million dollars.

00:11:44.000 Right, but all you have right now is just a guy with a story.

00:11:47.000 No, no.

00:11:47.000 He came back and brought, when he picked up the baby, it bled on his boot.

00:11:51.000 So there's blood on the boot from the baby.

00:11:55.000 They went back out there and it snowed like three and a half feet and they're digging six by six foot holes down through the snow.

00:12:00.000 They're out there for like, I forget what he said, like eight hours digging, digging.

00:12:03.000 And then his bloodhound, they found where they thought it would crash.

00:12:07.000 They found it. 1.00

00:12:09.000 Like when a mammal dies, how all the grease comes out of the ass. 1.00

00:12:12.000 It lays like a grease slick there. 0.99

00:12:15.000 And they found out it looked like a bear had fed on it because it was just torn up.

00:12:19.000 And there was actually some bear prints in the snow as they dug through.

00:12:23.000 Which does happen to any animal that dies in the woods.

00:12:26.000 People always say, when was the last time you saw a dead deer in the woods?

00:12:29.000 They don't last very long.

00:12:30.000 Right.

00:12:30.000 If they're there a couple of days, something finds it.

00:12:33.000 Oh, yeah.

00:12:33.000 It starts getting torn up.

00:12:34.000 And then, like, rodents eat the bones.

00:12:36.000 Porcupines eat the bones.

00:12:37.000 Like, whatever.

00:12:37.000 And so...

00:12:39.000 Where was I? Oh, they went back out there.

00:12:42.000 His bloodhound puppy found a chunk of meat and flesh.

00:12:45.000 He couldn't tell.

00:12:46.000 It looked like the same colors he got.

00:12:48.000 And it was like...

00:12:50.000 I saw it.

00:12:51.000 It's grayish white with brown mixed in, kind of multicolored.

00:12:54.000 And it's weird coarse hair and it matches.

00:12:57.000 That is the catalyst.

00:13:00.000 The centerpiece of the DNA study is that piece of meat.

00:13:04.000 That's the first one they got because it snowed right on it.

00:13:06.000 That was the first whole...

00:13:09.000 And what is it?

00:13:10.000 Have they done an analysis of it?

00:13:11.000 They've mapped the whole genome.

00:13:13.000 What is it?

00:13:14.000 It's what the guys that are working on it called as a relic hominid.

00:13:17.000 And it's not a gigantopithecus.

00:13:19.000 Really?

00:13:19.000 So they're 100% convinced it's not a chimp, it's not any other kind of animal?

00:13:24.000 Oh yeah.

00:13:26.000 Wordly guy.

00:13:27.000 Who is this guy that has done this study?

00:13:29.000 It's a woman named Melba Ketchum, and there's a lot of controversy around her, and there's some weird stuff about her, for sure, like things she's done and said.

00:13:36.000 Is she crazy? 0.82

00:13:37.000 No, I don't know.

00:13:38.000 A little bit?

00:13:38.000 She's a woman.

00:13:39.000 There you go.

00:13:41.000 I was glad you said that.

00:13:42.000 How many cats does she own? 1.00

00:13:44.000 How many crystals are around her neck? 0.99

00:13:46.000 She's cool, but she has a big genetic lab. 1.00

00:13:50.000 Anyway, she's well-known, and What's the issue that people have with her?

00:13:54.000 Well, because she had to come up with new...

00:13:56.000 God, I don't want to start talking too much detail.

00:13:59.000 When I read it, I understand.

00:14:00.000 Is it a business scandal?

00:14:02.000 No, no, no.

00:14:03.000 She... 1.00

00:14:05.000 Well, I'll just say this.

00:14:06.000 From that, now Oxford University is doing a study over in England.

00:14:10.000 On the same...

00:14:11.000 Well, I think they're getting some of that.

00:14:13.000 I mean, I'm not sure exactly.

00:14:14.000 I hear stuff from different people.

00:14:16.000 Uh-huh.

00:14:16.000 And I was just with the guys that are running the DNA project this last week.

00:14:20.000 Right.

00:14:20.000 Last week.

00:14:20.000 I just left them two days ago.

00:14:23.000 And...

00:14:24.000 But there's other labs that you have to go through peer review, and you give them a sample, and they do the same test.

00:14:30.000 But she had come up with these new techniques that hadn't been used before, and so the other labs had to authenticate that, then replicate the process, and you had to replicate it twice, each other lab.

00:14:41.000 And the word is, and there's other scientists getting on board, because words leaked around in the community of those type of geneticists and stuff, is that it's real.

00:14:51.000 It's really close to human, whereas...

00:14:53.000 Chimps and gorillas have 98, 98.1% of the same DNA we have. 0.99

00:14:59.000 These are 99.5, 99.6.

00:15:02.000 The samples from Asia, the Yetis, were 99.4 to 99.5.

00:15:06.000 So what are the Yeti samples?

00:15:08.000 What were they proven to be?

00:15:10.000 Well, see that was the thing.

00:15:12.000 There's these genetic markers.

00:15:14.000 They're really similar.

00:15:15.000 They're like a type of people.

00:15:17.000 The whole evolutionary chain they have, you know, is way out of whack.

00:15:22.000 I wasn't aware that there was this much conclusive evidence.

00:15:25.000 I'd never heard this before.

00:15:27.000 Yeah, people...

00:15:28.000 Do you talk about it on the show?

00:15:30.000 You know what's so aggravating?

00:15:31.000 It's real frustrating because we were like, you guys never put any real science in this show?

00:15:37.000 And they're like, yeah.

00:15:39.000 And I used to get in fights with them.

00:15:41.000 And I actually quit the show a bunch of times, like season one, like in between season one and season two.

00:15:45.000 Really?

00:15:46.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:15:46.000 Yeah, I was like, this isn't what I signed up for, you know, like some hokey ass reality show. 0.97

00:15:51.000 What was wrong? 0.78

00:15:52.000 What did you sign up for?

00:15:53.000 Well, like they wouldn't, like we got some, you know, audio, we've got audio and stuff captured, and when you run through spectrographs, you can rule out, you can rule stuff out, you know, and a lot of times you'll get left with, the only thing that matches it would be like a howler monkey or something, or a gibbon, and then it goes out of range of that even.

00:16:13.000 You know my favorite story is Les Stroud from Survivor.

00:16:17.000 Oh yeah.

00:16:18.000 Survivor Man.

00:16:18.000 That dude was in Alaska and apparently he was on a remote island.

00:16:22.000 And Alaska, for folks who don't know it, is more than a thousand islands.

00:16:26.000 Alaska has a fuckload of islands.

00:16:28.000 Temperate rainforest in the southeast. 0.68

00:16:30.000 Yeah.

00:16:30.000 Well, he was camping there.

00:16:32.000 He was doing one of his survivor of things where he stays up all night and, you know, sleeps in a tent and makes his own food.

00:16:38.000 I mean, it's really, the show's amazing.

00:16:40.000 I love the guy.

00:16:41.000 Anyway, he was in Alaska by himself and he started hearing primate noises.

00:16:45.000 He heard like, woo, woo, woo.

00:16:48.000 Loud something that didn't sound anything like a bear.

00:16:51.000 He's like, this was like very distinct primate.

00:16:54.000 And he said, then I started to make some movement.

00:16:57.000 And when it realized that something was there, ran hard and fast through the woods.

00:17:02.000 He goes, I don't know what it is, but it was big and it was heavy.

00:17:06.000 And it ran through the woods and it sounded like it was making primate noises.

00:17:10.000 Oh, yeah.

00:17:11.000 To him, it was a real animal, and he suspects that it's probably Bigfoot.

00:17:16.000 And he's a guy that goes to these really remote places and stays for days and days, and I think he's got it in his head how there could be an animal like that that lives completely outside of human contact, and even in 2012 is yet to be discovered. 0.99

00:17:32.000 It's just, this guy's story sounds like bullshit. 0.98

00:17:35.000 I watched his story. 1.00

00:17:36.000 I watched him talk.

00:17:37.000 I watched him talk about shooting the thing, that it was a baby.

00:17:40.000 I was like, dude, you're an actor.

00:17:42.000 This is nonsense.

00:17:43.000 I didn't buy a word he was saying.

00:17:45.000 He's taking a lot of grief, man.

00:17:46.000 And he's not making any money off it.

00:17:48.000 Like, they're doing a book on it, and he's done it. 0.77

00:17:49.000 People are crazy. 0.99

00:17:51.000 People are crazy. 1.00

00:17:51.000 Check this out. 1.00

00:17:52.000 When I took him out, when we went out there, Monkey loves...

00:17:54.000 Like, she's played with Bigfoots before up in Bluff Creek.

00:17:57.000 Yeah.

00:17:57.000 I didn't actually see her playing with it, but the only daylight setting I ever had was the same day she was in the brush in that same spot, running around, and I could hear something huge running back and forth.

00:18:06.000 Anyway, she gets excited.

00:18:08.000 She got her ribs all broke by a bear when she was a puppy, and she hates mountain lions.

00:18:12.000 Wow.

00:18:12.000 And where he said he stuck the baby's body...

00:18:16.000 You'll never hear her make a noise.

00:18:17.000 She doesn't bark or anything.

00:18:18.000 She might maybe play growls a little bit, but she doesn't bark. 1.00

00:18:21.000 The whole week we were up there, the only time anyone heard her make any noise was when he said, yeah, I stuck it over that bush. 0.89

00:18:26.000 And she was just walking around sniffing. 1.00

00:18:27.000 She went over that bush where he said he stuck the baby body.

00:18:29.000 And she went crazy and started digging holes. 1.00

00:18:33.000 Did you guys try to figure out if it was there?

00:18:35.000 Did you try to dig it out?

00:18:39.000 Dr. Meldrum had set up for some cadaver dogs to the Smithsonian and stuff like that to come out.

00:18:43.000 It was like a full, we had professional trackers and the cadaver people, we had two different sets of cadaver dogs.

00:18:49.000 They wouldn't do it because, the funny part was the lady had done search and rescue up in the mountains with the dogs too, like body recoveries. 0.60

00:18:56.000 She was certain that their Sasquatches lived there and it wasn't like, I don't want to do it, that's crazy, I don't want to be involved in something that's not real.

00:19:02.000 She was like, if it is Sasquatch and my dog picks up with that scent and tracks it, it wouldn't ever track humans again.

00:19:11.000 They only track one thing, those cadaver dogs.

00:19:14.000 Really?

00:19:15.000 Yeah, that's what the handler said.

00:19:17.000 So if they trained it to track a Sasquatch, then they wouldn't work for humans anymore.

00:19:22.000 Yeah, but if you got a dog that was trained to track Sasquatches, your dog probably wouldn't live long if it caught up to them.

00:19:28.000 You think they would eat the dog?

00:19:29.000 They've been known to kill dogs pretty frequently.

00:19:32.000 Really?

00:19:33.000 Aggressive dogs.

00:19:34.000 Even dogs that were just minding their own business, they've killed them. 1.00

00:19:37.000 No shit. 0.99

00:19:37.000 Yeah, but dogs barking getting aggressive, people say they'll see them kick them. 0.99

00:19:41.000 Do you know that anyone has had their dog killed against Sasquatch?

00:19:45.000 Yeah.

00:19:45.000 They see it?

00:19:47.000 They see it happen?

00:19:47.000 I talk to these natives.

00:19:49.000 We were down, squatching on the Hickory Apache Reservation in New Mexico, and they had one come up on the porch, and the female dog, Pitbull, was guarding her puppy.

00:19:59.000 They were like four-week, six-week-old puppies, and they were up on the side of my store.

00:20:03.000 It was morning.

00:20:04.000 The kids were watching cartoons, getting ready for school, eating breakfast, and the thing walked up on their porch.

00:20:09.000 And the dog was snarling and snapping and just walked up, lifted its leg and just crushed it, broke its back, like crushed it, and then stomped all the puppies and walked away.

00:20:19.000 Whoa.

00:20:20.000 Stomped a puppy. 0.99

00:20:21.000 So Bigfoot's a douchebag. 0.98

00:20:23.000 I think they're like people, yeah. 0.99

00:20:24.000 Like some are total dicks and most of them are all right. 0.99

00:20:28.000 Now, what is the most conclusive evidence? 0.99

00:20:30.000 You think it's that Patterson footage? 0.97

00:20:31.000 Because I think that footage is horseshit. 0.99

00:20:33.000 Dude, you're tripping. 0.99

00:20:35.000 I'm not.

00:20:35.000 You're more wrong than you know.

00:20:38.000 Do you know that that guy was arrested for writing a fake check to pay for the very camera that he used to film that?

00:20:46.000 Okay, you're talking about Greg Long's book.

00:20:49.000 I don't know what I'm talking about.

00:20:50.000 Is it not true?

00:20:54.000 No, he had some financial difficulties for sure.

00:20:58.000 Bob Gibbon, the guy that was driving him, and the Apache Indian, the tracker guy, I mean, the guy's a legend, dude.

00:21:03.000 But there is one guy who has come out and said that it was a hoax and that he was a part of it, right? 0.99

00:21:09.000 That guy's a liar. 0.85

00:21:10.000 He's some drunk neighbor guy that used to hang out with him that was... 0.99

00:21:15.000 Roger and Bob were real popular.

00:21:16.000 Roger Patterson and Bob Gillen.

00:21:18.000 They were like expert rodeo riders.

00:21:21.000 Bob Gillen's the baddest dude you'll ever meet, dude.

00:21:24.000 He was the number one ranked welterweight in the world when he got in a serious car wreck, ended his career.

00:21:28.000 He's in the Rodeo Hall of Fame.

00:21:30.000 He's like the best tracker hunter you ever saw.

00:21:33.000 He's 81. He's still out there like breaking horses and roping and...

00:21:37.000 And what part did he play in this?

00:21:39.000 He was the other guy there with Roger when they filmed it.

00:21:45.000 Roger Patterson wasn't a con man?

00:21:47.000 No.

00:21:48.000 Because I've read that he was a con man.

00:21:50.000 I've read that he was arrested for writing bad checks.

00:21:54.000 Yeah, because he was so impassioned with the project, and he knew that it was real, and he was just...

00:21:59.000 Well, his brother-in-law was supposed to be funding this stuff.

00:22:03.000 This guy, Al D'Atli, was a millionaire up there.

00:22:06.000 And he...

00:22:07.000 It was like his brother-in-law, like, crazy Roger running around, whatever, I think.

00:22:13.000 And he was his partner on this, and then he was supposed to be putting funds in, and it didn't happen.

00:22:18.000 It wasn't like Roger was his total con man.

00:22:21.000 He was like, everyone...

00:22:22.000 People we've talked to say he's a good dude.

00:22:25.000 And he purposely went there to try to find a Bigfoot.

00:22:29.000 No, he was there filming fresh tracks.

00:22:31.000 They were there to film the Blue Mountain trackway.

00:22:33.000 What does that mean?

00:22:34.000 There were some sets of tracks that people had found.

00:22:37.000 Bigfoot tracks.

00:22:38.000 Yeah, there were two sets.

00:22:39.000 But he was there to try to find Bigfoot.

00:22:41.000 At that time, they were just looking for fresh tracks.

00:22:43.000 They never thought they'd see it, especially in the day.

00:22:45.000 Well, listen, man.

00:22:46.000 Nobody wants to believe Bigfoot more than me.

00:22:48.000 But when I look at that video footage, it looks fake.

00:22:50.000 Dude, you're tripping.

00:22:52.000 It looks like a guy in a monkey suit.

00:22:53.000 I'm just being honest.

00:22:54.000 Pull it up, Brian.

00:22:56.000 Pull it up.

00:22:56.000 You're way off.

00:22:57.000 I think you're tripping off.

00:22:58.000 You think it's a real Bigfoot, Brian?

00:23:00.000 I know it's real.

00:23:01.000 I saw one in the daylight.

00:23:03.000 Listen, I'm not saying that Bigfoot's not real.

00:23:06.000 I'm not saying that at all by any stretch of the imagination.

00:23:08.000 Look, Jane Goodall believes Bigfoot's real.

00:23:10.000 She said she believes 100% that there is some undiscovered primate in the Pacific Northwest.

00:23:16.000 I believe those were her exact words.

00:23:19.000 What should I say?

00:23:20.000 Look up Bob Patterson Bigfoot footage.

00:23:23.000 Roger Patterson.

00:23:24.000 Patterson.

00:23:26.000 Patterson.

00:23:28.000 Patterson Bigfoot footage, I'm sure, is good enough.

00:23:30.000 And put up stabilized, because you want that.

00:23:32.000 Oh, that's it. 1.00

00:23:33.000 That shit's real as fuck. 1.00

00:23:35.000 That's funny. 1.00

00:23:36.000 Mexican border Bigfoot footage. 1.00

00:23:37.000 Here's a Bigfoot with a sombrero and a fucking bag of traffic. 1.00

00:23:41.000 That's hilarious. 0.99

00:23:42.000 We talked to a Border Patrol agent, though, that was tracking some illegals coming across and saw Bigfoot down the mountains down in Arizona.

00:23:49.000 Really?

00:23:49.000 Okay.

00:23:50.000 Yeah.

00:23:51.000 Original footage.

00:23:54.000 Yeah.

00:23:55.000 Okay, for one thing, when she's walking, if you can...

00:24:00.000 See, that's not stabilized.

00:24:01.000 Yeah, they're going to stabilize it in a second.

00:24:03.000 Okay.

00:24:04.000 That looks like a dude in a monkey suit.

00:24:07.000 Dude, you're so off.

00:24:08.000 The top expert guys in the world, like Chambers, that made the...

00:24:13.000 Okay, right.

00:24:14.000 Let's see, back a little bit more.

00:24:15.000 Her foot, they have a double... 1.00

00:24:16.000 If you look at that cast, they have a double ball foot.

00:24:18.000 And you can see it.

00:24:19.000 They just found this recently.

00:24:22.000 Right...

00:24:25.000 Yeah, you'd have to pause it.

00:24:26.000 You've got to pause it when she's picking her foot up.

00:24:28.000 It's her left foot going down. 0.59

00:24:30.000 And it's a total girl? 1.00

00:24:30.000 Is that what they're saying? 1.00

00:24:31.000 Oh, dude. 1.00

00:24:32.000 Big hairy ass tits. 1.00

00:24:37.000 Listen, I would love to believe that's a real big foot. 1.00

00:24:39.000 I really would.

00:24:39.000 But it looks like a dude in a monkey suit.

00:24:43.000 Nah, dude.

00:24:44.000 It's way bigger than a human.

00:24:47.000 Do they do the things that you guys do?

00:24:49.000 That's one of the things I really enjoy about your show, is that when someone has a video that they think it's Bigfoot, what they do is they send Bobo out, and Bobo's always bigger.

00:24:58.000 Yeah.

00:24:59.000 Because you're a big dude, but you're always bigger than what they thought was Bigfoot.

00:25:03.000 Except for coming up this season, one of the episodes coming up.

00:25:05.000 Oh, really?

00:25:06.000 You got one?

00:25:06.000 It's way bigger than me.

00:25:08.000 Well, they got Smart Season 2. They wisened up.

00:25:10.000 You know a lot of those people just want to be on TV, right?

00:25:13.000 On that show?

00:25:14.000 No, a lot of them...

00:25:15.000 You don't think a lot of those people with their stories...

00:25:17.000 There was one guy...

00:25:18.000 Some people, but what happens is we go there, right?

00:25:21.000 We have a network all across the country, like Bigfoot researchers.

00:25:25.000 There's a lot of academics, cops, fish and game officials, people that have seen them themselves, and they get into it.

00:25:31.000 Have you seen it yourself?

00:25:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:25:33.000 When have you seen it?

00:25:34.000 The last one I saw, that's funny, the guy just called me, was with this guy, Jamie J. He was, you ever said maybe Black Hawk Down?

00:25:41.000 Yes.

00:25:42.000 He was the real life dude, the fifth grade squad leader that shot their way out, like came out of that rescue house and came out and met up with them and then ran out front and shot his way out.

00:25:50.000 Me and that guy were up there and it was where I saw, my only daylight sighting was right on Bluff Creek where that was filmed, the PG, the Patterson film was filmed.

00:25:59.000 Really?

00:25:59.000 Yeah.

00:25:59.000 So you saw one there?

00:26:01.000 I saw when Monkey was playing that day in the brush where I thought she was going to get killed.

00:26:06.000 Earlier in that day, the only reason I saw it was she was staring at it.

00:26:08.000 It was leaning out behind a tree, and I saw it leaning out behind a tree for just that fat.

00:26:11.000 It just was gone.

00:26:12.000 I walked up there, and you can just smell that smell.

00:26:15.000 It was one of the only times I really smelled that smell real thick you hear about.

00:26:18.000 Because I haven't smelled that.

00:26:19.000 People always talk about that smell, but I've only smelled that.

00:26:21.000 Yeah, they call them skunk apes.

00:26:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:23.000 We think it's like a...

00:26:25.000 Like a secretion gland, like if they get agitated or scared or mad, it'll seep out.

00:26:30.000 Over millennia, human brain is, when that pheromone hits your brain, it just causes a total fear reaction.

00:26:37.000 Really?

00:26:38.000 Yeah.

00:26:38.000 That's interesting.

00:26:39.000 So it's like, you know what a lot of people don't realize is that like the parts per million that a dog can smell of a person is very similar to what you can smell from a skunk.

00:26:50.000 Right.

00:26:51.000 It's really interesting because you really think about how strong a skunk smell is. 1.00

00:26:55.000 You're in your car with the windows rolled up and you're driving like, oh, fucking skunk. 0.99

00:27:00.000 And that's outside. 0.99

00:27:02.000 It's outside nowhere near you and it's just a little tiny squirt.

00:27:05.000 Right.

00:27:05.000 Well, a dog can smell a person like that.

00:27:07.000 That is a trip, man.

00:27:09.000 That's a wild thing to think of.

00:27:11.000 And if we have a reaction to these things, some primordial reaction to these things, and that gland is just like a skunk gland, just like something that squirts out to us is really distinct.

00:27:24.000 Right.

00:27:25.000 Probably all animals fear that smell.

00:27:27.000 What was it like to you?

00:27:28.000 What was the smell like?

00:27:29.000 If you could describe it.

00:27:31.000 Is it possible?

00:27:33.000 Yeah, I'll tell you this.

00:27:34.000 I walked through it, too, another time where it was real thick, where it just walked in front of us.

00:27:38.000 We missed it by minutes, where it walked in and broaded across the meadow in Hickory Apache Reservation.

00:27:44.000 I smelled it there, too.

00:27:45.000 It was like from here to the wall, and you could walk through it, and you'd just be like, ugh!

00:27:51.000 If there's no wind, right?

00:27:52.000 Because both these times there was not wind right then.

00:27:54.000 And it just hung so thick, and it was like...

00:27:58.000 Real musty, like a musk, and it was kind of sour, kind of sewage-y smell, like wet dog mix, like bear, like when a bear comes out in the spring when you smell bears when they come out of hibernation, like that kind of smell. 0.99

00:28:12.000 Just a stinky animal, fucking funk. 0.99

00:28:16.000 And you would not... 1.00

00:28:18.000 Because I didn't smell it for a long time.

00:28:21.000 I was around them a long time until I smelled one.

00:28:23.000 I'd seen them and heard them around me before I'd ever smelled one.

00:28:27.000 What's the first time you saw one?

00:28:29.000 The first one I saw was May 21, 2001. Where?

00:28:33.000 Up in Humboldt, up in the Bald Hills.

00:28:35.000 That's where you're from, right?

00:28:36.000 I'm from down here originally, but I moved up there in the 80s.

00:28:39.000 It's nice up there.

00:28:40.000 Oh yeah, it's beautiful.

00:28:41.000 So, I was with this cop and this probation officer guy, and then my buddy, I was all excited to go out with these guys, and I just brought a Gen 2 Ukrainian night scope.

00:28:53.000 That's when night vision and all that stuff was super expensive. 0.99

00:28:56.000 Nowadays, it would just be a piece of crap. 0.99

00:28:58.000 You could probably buy one for $100, but... 0.99

00:29:00.000 I never had one before, except for like little cheap, you know, big five ones.

00:29:04.000 And I left it on the porch when I was packing my truck to go out.

00:29:07.000 We were going to go squatching for a week.

00:29:09.000 And my buddy drove it up to me.

00:29:11.000 We were only there 20 minutes.

00:29:13.000 And it's a long story, dude.

00:29:16.000 No, it's okay.

00:29:18.000 Well, five nights before that, I'd had my first, for sure, unambiguous Sasquatch encounter.

00:29:27.000 Still to this day, it was the scariest moment of my life.

00:29:30.000 You didn't see it?

00:29:31.000 No, I didn't see it, but I saw when they ran at me, when they bluff-charged me, there was like...

00:29:36.000 It was pitch black, but you could just see black on black moving.

00:29:40.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:41.000 You couldn't make out any form, but it was just a big couple of black shapes.

00:29:46.000 There was gaps between the trees.

00:29:47.000 There was starlight behind.

00:29:49.000 It was just like a black blur.

00:29:51.000 They ran on both sides of me.

00:29:54.000 I've been doing howls and growls.

00:29:55.000 I've done them all the time.

00:29:58.000 In hindsight, when we were logging up, they were like...

00:30:01.000 Probably about seven years earlier, six years earlier, further down that ridge line, we'd been logging there one summer, and they'd come around as much, but I didn't realize what they were doing. 0.98

00:30:10.000 I thought it was pot grower Indian dudes up there, because we were off the res, and there'd be knocks and whistles in the morning, and the Indian dudes wouldn't get out of the truck, but like, these dudes were like the baddest dudes on the res, like, no, I'd fuck with these guys. 1.00

00:30:21.000 And like if someone's gonna, they'd confront whoever, like these dudes were gnarly, burly Indian lager dudes, and they would just sit in the truck and knock it out until the sun came up. 1.00

00:30:30.000 Because we'd be up there sharpening our saws and stuff, getting ready, and just kind of stretching a little bit, and just getting ready for the day, and they wouldn't get out of the truck with those whistles and knocks, and they'd sit in the truck.

00:30:39.000 So I'd been around, but didn't know it.

00:30:42.000 And this time it was I was doing howls, and this thing came from the north.

00:30:46.000 Now, when you say you were doing howls, for folks who haven't seen the show, you imitate, like, what you've heard in recordings and what you know they believe are primate howls that they attribute to Bigfoot.

00:30:57.000 Yeah, so there's a bunch of those you can find on the internet.

00:31:01.000 And I was doing those, and all of a sudden, I thought I heard a wolf howling back or, like, a wolf cross hybrid.

00:31:05.000 My buddy used to have, you know, everyone used to have, like, a wild back, a seven-eighths wolf with, like, an eight husky.

00:31:10.000 And they don't listen to you at all.

00:31:12.000 Yeah, I thought it was one of those things and it was coming down the ridge and it made some weird sounds like almost like more coyote kind of sound but it sounded then I'll just never forget it did kind of one that sounds sort of like mine but different it sounded way more primal and just gnarly and it just goes I just remember every hair in my body shot up.

00:31:32.000 I just went, holy shit, I'm actually having a Bigfoot encounter.

00:31:35.000 The thing that's been walking towards me at that point, it had been walking at me for probably 20 minutes. 0.76

00:31:40.000 I could hear it coming closer and closer, and it was just so loud.

00:31:42.000 I was carrying forever.

00:31:44.000 I was looking down over the Klamath River.

00:31:48.000 And when it came into the tree line, I was sitting in this meadow.

00:31:52.000 There's a dirt road that runs along the top of the hill.

00:31:54.000 And on the left side is Redwood National Park.

00:31:58.000 And on the right side, it's Timberland.

00:32:00.000 There's a few ranch inholdings, old family inholdings in there.

00:32:03.000 And I was sitting up there and I was...

00:32:06.000 This Indian woman, there's a little Indian village near this dirt road about 12 miles down, said she'd saw one.

00:32:12.000 And when I was talking to my cop buddy, John Freitas, that day on the phone, he said, it was real, this is like cell phones in Humboldt back then were like real, unless you were right in the middle of town, didn't work too good.

00:32:21.000 And I heard him say, yeah, May 21st, you know, a woman saw it run across the road, right?

00:32:27.000 And I knew where she, because we logged up in there.

00:32:29.000 I knew that whole area.

00:32:30.000 I knew exactly what he was talking about.

00:32:31.000 It was a big deer in Elk Meadow. 0.99

00:32:33.000 So I was like, Okay, shit, I know where that is. 0.99

00:32:36.000 And I was, like, jammed up there. 0.99

00:32:37.000 And I had the night scope.

00:32:39.000 I sat there, and this thing came into the tree line.

00:32:40.000 I started doing these crazy roars and screaming, snapping trees.

00:32:43.000 And this thing was huge, gnarly, just...

00:32:46.000 I couldn't believe it.

00:32:47.000 And when it came in the tree line, to my right, at my 2 o'clock position, see what happens?

00:32:52.000 Like, if this is the dirt road here, there's this...

00:32:55.000 Meadow that's kind of crescent-shaped, half-moon.

00:32:57.000 There's a little timber stand here, brushing timber right here, and then there's a dirt road behind here.

00:33:03.000 I was sitting on the other side of the road, facing the meadow with my night scope, sitting in this beach chair, looking out this way.

00:33:09.000 This thing came in here at my 9 o'clock.

00:33:11.000 I was facing this way.

00:33:12.000 This came in my 9 o'clock, and right when it did this craziest roar and snapped this tree from over here at 2 o'clock was this gnarly power knock just cracked.

00:33:20.000 They'll take a branch or something and just bash a tree or a stump or whatever.

00:33:24.000 We call them power knocks when they do that, or wood knocks when they're lighter, but just this full gnarly power knock.

00:33:28.000 Boom! 0.99

00:33:29.000 Just to let you know they can do that to your head.

00:33:31.000 Right?

00:33:32.000 That's what they're doing. 0.93

00:33:33.000 Dude, if they were ever going to kill anyone, they would have killed me that night because... 0.94

00:33:36.000 Or they're musicians.

00:33:37.000 Yeah, they have a really primitive band.

00:33:40.000 You know, I've asked a lot of natives about that, because they come around tribal dances and stuff.

00:33:45.000 They do?

00:33:46.000 Yeah, they'll probably be like, keep the noise down! 1.00

00:33:48.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:33:49.000 They're trying to sleep out here. 1.00

00:33:50.000 They'll kind of dig on it.

00:33:52.000 They dig music, apparently.

00:33:53.000 From what I've heard, they don't make any kind of music.

00:33:56.000 What do they sound like?

00:33:58.000 What does the house sound like?

00:34:00.000 Can you give us a version of The Howl?

00:34:02.000 My version?

00:34:03.000 It only did mine once from way out, but should I do it?

00:34:06.000 Yeah.

00:34:07.000 How far should I get back?

00:34:08.000 Yeah, like a little bit.

00:34:09.000 Yeah, that's good.

00:34:10.000 Like, uh, he made me laugh.

00:34:12.000 Um.

00:34:13.000 Wow.

00:34:16.000 Wow.

00:34:20.000 But I'd do it louder if we were outside.

00:34:21.000 There was the videos that, or rather the audio recordings that some people have gotten of screams in the woods that they have identified as primate.

00:34:30.000 Right.

00:34:30.000 Where was that that they got those?

00:34:32.000 Because it's pretty...

00:34:33.000 All over the...

00:34:34.000 Sounds like that.

00:34:35.000 Missouri, Mississippi, Florida, Virginia.

00:34:37.000 How come nobody's gotten pictures of them, man? 0.99

00:34:39.000 They're shitty pictures. 0.97

00:34:41.000 And cameras don't work like the human eye, right, too? 0.99

00:34:43.000 It's like...

00:34:44.000 Your eye focuses so quick.

00:34:47.000 Because they're so used to getting shot at, and they see us shoot at everything.

00:34:50.000 But I think they know what cameras are, but when they see something come up, they're just gone.

00:34:55.000 Like, they're not sticking around.

00:34:57.000 They're not going to sit there.

00:34:58.000 But there is videos.

00:34:59.000 There's a lot of videos of them.

00:35:01.000 We know people that have gotten them, but you can't tone it.

00:35:03.000 It's just so shitty, low quality, low res.

00:35:07.000 They're almost always in the shadows. 0.97

00:35:09.000 It'll be bright outside, then they're in the shadows.

00:35:13.000 People aren't using high quality gear.

00:35:14.000 Because if you hadn't personally had an encounter At a certain point in time, you have to look at all these different people with their shitty photos and the things that don't really look like a Bigfoot. 0.97

00:35:24.000 Well, there's a lot of hoaxers and crazy people. 0.95

00:35:27.000 A lot of people, right? 0.88

00:35:28.000 Well, most is for sure hoaxers, almost all. 1.00

00:35:30.000 But isn't that annoying that you're dealing with, you're in a business where half the people are full of shit? 1.00

00:35:36.000 Let's say half. 1.00

00:35:36.000 No, not half. 1.00

00:35:37.000 We're being nice.

00:35:38.000 I think that's being nice.

00:35:39.000 People that research Bigfoot?

00:35:41.000 No, no, not research Bigfoot that have claimed to have seen him, I think. 1.00

00:35:45.000 I think half of them are full of shit. 1.00

00:35:48.000 No way. 1.00

00:35:49.000 I've talked to over 4,000 people that have seen them, and maybe 100 or 200 were trying to bullshit me.

00:35:55.000 Only 100 or 200, really?

00:35:56.000 Because this is before I was on TV and stuff mostly, you know what I mean?

00:36:00.000 Right.

00:36:02.000 People in the community.

00:36:03.000 I've talked to a couple of my professors when I was going to school.

00:36:05.000 Had seen them.

00:36:07.000 All kinds of people.

00:36:09.000 We did this thing once.

00:36:10.000 You can't trust it. 1.00

00:36:11.000 Once you put it on TV, like your show, I see people that raise their hands, and I'm like, this motherfucker's making this shit up. 1.00

00:36:19.000 Those town hall meetings. 1.00

00:36:20.000 When did you see a Bigfoot? 0.99

00:36:22.000 You could tell some folks will just make shit up to get on camera. 0.99

00:36:27.000 I did a show for CBS once. 0.99

00:36:29.000 It was called Game Show in My Head.

00:36:31.000 And one of the things we did was we would show up somewhere pretending to be a real news crew.

00:36:36.000 And the assignment that the contestant had was you have to get someone to agree to have seen something that they didn't actually see.

00:36:45.000 Right.

00:36:45.000 Because your witness took off and it's a UFO sighting.

00:36:49.000 So you have to get someone, tell them you're going to put them on the news and say, listen, we were about to film this guy.

00:36:55.000 Do you think you could pretend that you had seen the UFO? Every fucking one of them said yes. 0.99

00:37:01.000 It was crazy. 1.00

00:37:01.000 But you could tell, though. 1.00

00:37:02.000 You couldn't tell, man. 1.00

00:37:04.000 When you watched the playback, you couldn't tell they were bullshit? 0.99

00:37:06.000 It was no different than listening to people on your show talk about Bigfoot. 1.00

00:37:08.000 I swear to God.

00:37:09.000 There is a difference, though, because...

00:37:10.000 You know what's funny is a lot of...

00:37:12.000 We deal with a lot of law enforcement people because they go out to rural residences, like break-ins, like when they're stealing chickens or freezers, like breaking their food. 0.99

00:37:20.000 Bigfoot steal chickens and shit. 1.00

00:37:21.000 Yeah, they're omnivores. 1.00

00:37:24.000 And...

00:37:24.000 A lot of cops watch our...

00:37:26.000 The guy, John Fredis, the cop I was out before, he's certified federally to be a deception expert.

00:37:33.000 He trains other law enforcement agencies.

00:37:36.000 And we've heard other police training agencies teach them deception, like what to look for when people are lying.

00:37:45.000 And they watch our show for the witnesses and they say they're surprised at how they aren't lying.

00:37:50.000 Almost all the ones they see.

00:37:52.000 How many?

00:37:53.000 Really? 0.99

00:37:53.000 Because I bet that guy sucks at that. 0.99

00:37:56.000 No, no, other ones. 0.99

00:37:56.000 Other cops. 0.99

00:37:58.000 Other people that instruct on that. 1.00

00:38:00.000 I'm better at that shit than him. 1.00

00:38:01.000 I could just see Roscoe Pico. 1.00

00:38:03.000 Yeah, I'm a trained, you know.

00:38:05.000 I'm a trained expert in the laws and the arts of deception.

00:38:09.000 You ain't gonna sneak by me.

00:38:11.000 The Duke boys?

00:38:14.000 Like if that kind of officer said I was a trained professional. 1.00

00:38:18.000 How many times have you been out on a show, though, where you're going with the witnesses and you go, man, I think this guy might be full of shit. 1.00

00:38:26.000 We just did one. 0.98

00:38:28.000 I can't tell you which ones.

00:38:30.000 I don't think none of the ones that we aired.

00:38:32.000 And dude, if someone was pulling a prank, believe me, they'd be crowing about it.

00:38:35.000 It's not a pull in the prank. 0.97

00:38:36.000 Just they're crazy and they want a friend.

00:38:38.000 Instead, they have a Bigfoot story.

00:38:41.000 Yeah, there's some of that for sure.

00:38:43.000 But we don't put those people on the show.

00:38:45.000 They might show clips from at the town hall, but we don't go out to their spot with them.

00:38:48.000 And a lot of those guys we go out with, they've already been vetted several times.

00:38:53.000 Local BFO investigators have gone there with the person, gone over the whole sighting.

00:38:57.000 Although we just did one on the show where we're pretty sure...

00:39:01.000 We don't know for sure, but we think the guy was...

00:39:03.000 We're pretty sure the dude's lying, you know? 0.99

00:39:05.000 Well, if you guys are sure the guy was lying, I bet he's fucking lying. 0.96

00:39:08.000 Yeah, like Moneymaker, you've seen the show, right? 0.98

00:39:13.000 Yeah.

00:39:13.000 Moneymaker's just real stares out of it.

00:39:16.000 It's funny that it's his name, first of all.

00:39:18.000 His real name is Matt Moneymaker.

00:39:20.000 That's hilarious.

00:39:21.000 His dad's a famous bankruptcy attorney here in Beverly Hills named Rich Moneymaker.

00:39:25.000 That's even funnier.

00:39:26.000 I know.

00:39:27.000 Rich Moneymaker.

00:39:29.000 The bankruptcy attorney.

00:39:30.000 I mean, if you were going to have a Coen Brothers movie and in it was going to be a plot line that involved a Bigfoot TV show, you guys would be perfectly cast.

00:39:40.000 You know, you, Bobo, the Sasquatch expert, is always bigger than the video.

00:39:44.000 Matt Moneymaker, the guy's name is Moneymaker.

00:39:47.000 That alone sounds like a character.

00:39:49.000 It's awesome.

00:39:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:50.000 How'd you guys all get together?

00:39:51.000 Like, how did this show get started?

00:39:54.000 I hooked up with Matt through...

00:39:57.000 Well, he runs the BFRO. I don't know if you ever looked at that website.

00:40:01.000 Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization.

00:40:03.000 It's got like 50,000 sightings on it, whatever.

00:40:06.000 And it was real hard to get in back then.

00:40:09.000 And I was just like, whatever, fisherman, logger guy.

00:40:13.000 Didn't have any credentials or anything like that.

00:40:15.000 But I always went out, and I knew a lot of the natives out there, and I worked in the woods out there, and I spent time out there, and I talked to people, and I just needed to lay the land, so...

00:40:22.000 I hooked up with this guy, John Freitas, and then I was like a volunteer, whatever, with the BFRO for a few years, and then in 2003, they were filming that show, Mysterious Encounters, on Outdoor Left Network.

00:40:32.000 It was Matt and Autumn.

00:40:33.000 I don't know if you ever saw it.

00:40:34.000 It was just one season, but Matt and Autumn were on it, and then I was on like three episodes with him.

00:40:40.000 We were cruising around Northern Cal, and then he made me like a whatever investigator.

00:40:45.000 You had to go through steps to be an investigator.

00:40:48.000 You had to know what you were talking about, and Maybe now there's definitely people that are in the BFRO now.

00:40:53.000 There's like several hundred people across the country.

00:40:55.000 It's good because it's a broader net, but some of the people just don't have the Woods experience.

00:41:00.000 Like when they go out there, they don't...

00:41:03.000 People misidentify stuff all the time.

00:41:05.000 A lot of the stuff I do when people tell me they're having Bigfoot action out there, you get out there and it's a bobcat in heat, or there's a barred owl moved in.

00:41:14.000 It's some barred owl.

00:41:15.000 Wino.

00:41:16.000 Yeah, it could be.

00:41:18.000 Just stuff like that, or bear or whatever.

00:41:20.000 But I'll say this, for all the times that people say they saw Bigfoot and it was a bear, I'll bet you there's way more times where people saw Bigfoot and go, I just saw a weird bear.

00:41:29.000 Because their brain can't even process Bigfoot.

00:41:32.000 Especially before the 60s, my buddy Scott McLean lives right down here in Santa Monica.

00:41:37.000 He's compiled it.

00:41:38.000 He's putting a book out, and it's all like pre-1950 newspaper accounts.

00:41:42.000 He's got like 1,500 of them from North America back to the 1700s of people reporting orangutans because it was before gorillas were discovered.

00:41:50.000 Once gorillas were discovered, the description switched from orangutan to gorilla, or a wild man.

00:41:59.000 There's wild man stories.

00:42:01.000 Up in Humboldt, the loggers call them, since the 1800s, wood apes and brush apes.

00:42:09.000 There's 130-something names up and down the West Coast with monkey or ape in the name, like Monkey Creek, Ape Canyon, Monkey Ridge, Ape Ridge.

00:42:17.000 They're all over the place.

00:42:18.000 And they'd get that name because that's where the brush apes lived. 1.00

00:42:22.000 Jesus, how fucking cool would it be if they actually got some real footage? 0.87

00:42:27.000 Some real honest-to-goodness. 0.99

00:42:30.000 You can't fuck with it. 0.99

00:42:32.000 At least iPhone 1 footage. 0.99

00:42:33.000 Or captured one.

00:42:35.000 Or captured a Sasquatch.

00:42:37.000 Tracked one and dragged it out of the woods.

00:42:39.000 There's footage.

00:42:40.000 They won't release it.

00:42:41.000 We just went there.

00:42:41.000 We did an episode there.

00:42:43.000 It won't release?

00:42:44.000 No, it's a tribe.

00:42:45.000 They got it on a security camera behind the casino.

00:42:48.000 What?

00:42:48.000 And why won't they release it?

00:42:50.000 Dude, it's super heavy.

00:42:53.000 The squash to the natives is... 0.50

00:42:56.000 Listen, they wouldn't do anything for money.

00:43:00.000 Look what they did with these casinos. 0.99

00:43:02.000 They'll take the money.

00:43:03.000 They set up casinos down there.

00:43:05.000 They just need to offer them some cash.

00:43:06.000 No, dude.

00:43:07.000 There's certain...

00:43:08.000 Some tribes...

00:43:09.000 There's a few tribes like that, but most of them, though, there's still old people in charge. 1.00

00:43:12.000 They listen to them about that kind of stuff, like cultural stuff.

00:43:15.000 So the Sasquatch video, if that's their culture, that you would never be able to release a video of it?

00:43:24.000 It's funny, because I've talked to some tribes where they said that it signifies the end of the world if Sasquatch is brought in, like captured.

00:43:32.000 What?

00:43:33.000 Yeah.

00:43:34.000 That's like their...

00:43:35.000 That life has gotten so crazy that someone caught a Bigfoot.

00:43:38.000 Or, you know, brought in a body, whatever. 1.00

00:43:41.000 Well, now this guy, who I think is full of shit, who's telling a story about shooting the baby, why wouldn't he just bring a piece of it with him? 1.00

00:43:47.000 Why wouldn't he cut off a finger? 1.00

00:43:48.000 If he's willing to kill one of these fucking things... 1.00

00:43:50.000 Like it's a dog or like it's a coyote or something. 1.00

00:43:53.000 Or why don't you just take the blood to another blood DNA person or a piece of hair or something?

00:43:59.000 How about just hack off its hand? 0.96

00:43:59.000 Hack off its hand. 0.96

00:44:00.000 Cut off its head. 0.99

00:44:00.000 At that point, his buddy came over and was super pissed at him for shooting it. 0.99

00:44:04.000 And then they were starting to trick us.

00:44:06.000 It was at this point getting really dark.

00:44:07.000 And they were just going like, okay, there's got to be another big...

00:44:10.000 It takes two to make babies. 0.74

00:44:12.000 There's got to be another big one.

00:44:14.000 They definitely regret not bringing it, because the baby only weighed like 30, 35 pounds.

00:44:18.000 That doesn't make any sense to me.

00:44:20.000 I don't believe him. 0.99

00:44:20.000 It sounds like horseshit. 0.99

00:44:21.000 It sounds like horseshit. 0.98

00:44:22.000 The guy doesn't have a photo of it. 0.99

00:44:23.000 He shoots a Bigfoot, and he's not going to bring something back.

00:44:26.000 There's no way you would bring nothing back.

00:44:27.000 But they mapped the genome of that flesh sample he brought in. 0.99

00:44:31.000 Yeah, but that's some shit they found there after the fact. 0.99

00:44:33.000 He didn't take it from the baby and bring it with him. 0.99

00:44:36.000 Right, yeah, yeah.

00:44:36.000 There's no direct chain of custody, but dude, you can't argue DNA. Well, if you really do say that the DNA has been mapped and it is some new hominid...

00:44:45.000 Yeah, but isn't the woman crazy that the DNA... No, I didn't say that. 0.98

00:44:49.000 Well, I mean, at least there's some controversy about it.

00:44:52.000 There's some controversy about it, yeah.

00:44:53.000 Well, if there's any controversy, just take it to like a regular DNA map.

00:44:58.000 Oh, sorry.

00:44:58.000 Like a known company.

00:45:00.000 There is.

00:45:02.000 And the other labs are coming up with the same conclusions as her.

00:45:05.000 What's her name?

00:45:06.000 Melba, M-E-L-B-A, Ketchum, K-E-T-C-H-U-M. She has like DNA diagnostics down in Texas. 1.00

00:45:16.000 But we went to a genetic lab recently with some hair from back when that whole thing, you know the video we told you about, the video where the 10-foot Bigfoot walks up to the dumpster?

00:45:27.000 The thing's about 10 foot.

00:45:29.000 Where was this?

00:45:31.000 Oklahoma.

00:45:31.000 How good is the video?

00:45:33.000 I never got to see it, but we know people that have seen it.

00:45:36.000 You didn't get to see it.

00:45:37.000 Why haven't you gotten to see it?

00:45:38.000 It's locked in the vault, and the tribal chairman won't let anyone even see it anymore.

00:45:43.000 Because what happened was, word leaked out that there was Bigfoots.

00:45:47.000 And when you go to this place in Oklahoma, they travel the river routes.

00:45:50.000 They follow the rivers.

00:45:50.000 There's thick brush and bogs along the rivers, and they travel that.

00:45:54.000 Especially at night.

00:45:56.000 And this casino was near enough to that they'd come up there and they're real comfortable around natives because natives don't shoot at them very often.

00:46:03.000 It's rare for a native to shoot at a squash.

00:46:05.000 They leave them alone.

00:46:06.000 They'll put out food for them and leave is what they do.

00:46:09.000 And they don't have any photos of them either.

00:46:11.000 Some have.

00:46:12.000 Up in Humboldt, there was a family of some local Indians that shot footed just about from 400 yards away.

00:46:19.000 And it's looking down.

00:46:20.000 They were out scouting elk.

00:46:22.000 And this thing, a female was feeding down in the bottom eating some kind of vegetative matter. 1.00

00:46:28.000 I'm not sure whether it was eaten.

00:46:29.000 But she was digging something up.

00:46:31.000 It might have been some kind of root.

00:46:33.000 And they filmed it for like 13, 14 minutes.

00:46:36.000 But, you know, it's like 400 yards away.

00:46:38.000 But the thing is probably about 7 foot tall and 400 pounds.

00:46:42.000 So this woman, Mrs. Ketchum, who's doing this study, she's apparently putting it up for peer review.

00:46:52.000 Is that what's going on?

00:46:53.000 Yeah.

00:46:54.000 So she's made her conclusions.

00:46:57.000 Yeah, her conclusions are done.

00:46:58.000 The peer review is going on right now.

00:47:00.000 Oxford University is one of the labs that's in on the DNA study now.

00:47:03.000 There's...

00:47:04.000 I can't say.

00:47:05.000 I mean, it's their deal.

00:47:07.000 I can't say whether labs are doing it, but you would know the names.

00:47:13.000 There's a big public university.

00:47:15.000 One of the guys that runs a genetic department is doing it.

00:47:19.000 And their initial results are they're blown away.

00:47:23.000 There's a picture of a Bigfoot back.

00:47:25.000 It's the best picture.

00:47:27.000 I think that's fake.

00:47:28.000 Is it fake?

00:47:29.000 I don't know.

00:47:30.000 It might not be.

00:47:31.000 I think it is.

00:47:32.000 What if big foots were born very big and they only were big one day and they grew really small? 1.00

00:47:39.000 Brian, shut the fuck up now. 1.00

00:47:42.000 They grew backwards or something. 1.00

00:47:44.000 Thank you, Joe.

00:47:45.000 You just broke every person's brain who's listening to this thing.

00:47:49.000 They're not from ORC. How dare you.

00:47:53.000 So your first encounter came after you were already obsessed with Bigfoot.

00:47:59.000 Oh, totally.

00:48:00.000 What started it off?

00:48:02.000 How did you become obsessed?

00:48:04.000 I told you my story. 0.96

00:48:05.000 I talked to a trapper, and he told me it was real, and then I was fucking freaked out.

00:48:09.000 I saw the Patterson-Giblin film on some TV show when I was about five. 0.73

00:48:14.000 Because I remember I had just started kindergarten, and I could take books out at school.

00:48:20.000 At that point, I was looking for Bigfoot books.

00:48:23.000 And it just caught you.

00:48:25.000 Like, you just became obsessed with it.

00:48:27.000 Yeah, and then I was...

00:48:29.000 Then I grew up down here.

00:48:30.000 I was a surfer and all that.

00:48:31.000 And, you know, skate punk.

00:48:33.000 And after high school, I was going to...

00:48:35.000 I was doing...

00:48:36.000 I was piloting outrigger canoes.

00:48:38.000 If you know those Hawaiian canoes, outriggers.

00:48:40.000 Uh-huh.

00:48:40.000 Yeah, I was racing those.

00:48:41.000 And we were, like, the top team in the country.

00:48:43.000 And...

00:48:43.000 You know, doing like world championships and all that stuff.

00:48:46.000 So I stayed down here longer, but I was wanting to move up to Humboldt because I was into surfing.

00:48:49.000 I liked big waves and there was Bigfoot and big surf up there.

00:48:53.000 And I was like, man, the place is killer.

00:48:55.000 I'm going there.

00:48:55.000 So I moved up there.

00:48:56.000 Then I started to do some logging jobs and Started meeting people in the community and worked with some natives and kind of got in more and more and just really started delving in it.

00:49:06.000 Like if I heard about a report, I'd go check it out.

00:49:10.000 Talked to whoever I could.

00:49:11.000 I'd have like Bigfoot shirts or hats I'd wear and people would come to me and go, you believe in Bigfoot?

00:49:16.000 You know, I'd say, yeah.

00:49:18.000 And they'd say, yeah, I saw one one time.

00:49:20.000 It was crazy how many people, you got in rural areas, how many people...

00:49:24.000 And there's so much hard data for them.

00:49:27.000 Where you look where the sightings are, it's generally 90 plus percent of the sightings, over 90 percent of the sightings are, you can follow, it's like you look at it where there's 20 inches of rainfall or more.

00:49:39.000 That's where they live.

00:49:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:41.000 And there's a bell curve that you'd see with a natural occurring animal for like foot size.

00:49:47.000 God, I should have brushed up on this stuff. 0.98

00:49:50.000 You just had to think about saying something stupid on front of a camera when I'm doing Bigfoot stuff. 0.98

00:49:55.000 There's a lot of data. 0.99

00:49:57.000 As soon as you start saying you believe in Bigfoot, it's impossible to have everybody take you seriously, right? 1.00

00:50:04.000 Fuck those people. 1.00

00:50:06.000 They're wrong. 1.00

00:50:07.000 Well, eventually, if it is a real thing, someone's going to get something conclusive, right?

00:50:12.000 They already have. 0.97

00:50:14.000 Well, what's the most conclusive thing, besides the Patterson footage, that I think is bullshit? 0.95

00:50:19.000 Just the enormous amount of footprints that have been cast. 0.97

00:50:23.000 For the folks on Ustream, he brought me a replica of the best footprint, and it's fucking awesome. 0.99

00:50:29.000 If that really is from an animal, holy shit is that thing big. 0.92

00:50:33.000 Yeah, and actually, I got a copy of the hand. 0.98

00:50:36.000 It left a knuckle mark, too, where it stepped up over like a four-foot step up.

00:50:41.000 It went up and put its knuckles in the ground.

00:50:43.000 I got that out in the car, too.

00:50:44.000 I can show you.

00:50:45.000 But see those little ridge patterns?

00:50:47.000 Only living flesh leaves like those reds. 1.00

00:50:49.000 A cut-out foot or like a fiberglass mold would not leave that ridge pattern and that moisture.

00:50:54.000 Right, just all this stuff right here.

00:50:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:57.000 I mean, any tracker will tell you that.

00:51:01.000 So this, you think, is for sure a legit Bigfoot footprint?

00:51:05.000 Oh yeah, it's considered the best one.

00:51:07.000 The best one without clear dermals.

00:51:09.000 And that was cast by a Deputy Hereford in Graves County, Washington...

00:51:13.000 And when you say clear dermals, for folks who don't know, that's one of the most conclusive pieces of evidence for the people, the scientific community that support the idea of a giant primate, is dermal ridges that you have similar to fingerprints.

00:51:26.000 You have those on the bottom of your foot, and these animals actually leave these in some of the tracks, which would be incredibly difficult to replicate.

00:51:37.000 Dude, Jimmy Chilcutt, he taught at the FBI labs in Quantico, Virginia, like when you go through the academy.

00:51:44.000 He's the latent fingerprint expert, blah, blah.

00:51:47.000 Well, they were trying to see when they found just a gun in a murder scene, there's prints on it, and just no matches ever.

00:51:55.000 He was the guy that used for 15 years.

00:51:57.000 He went around and fingerprinted and footprinted every primate he could in zoos, research labs, and printed thousands of gorillas, orangutans, monkeys, chimpanzees, blah, blah, gibbons.

00:52:14.000 So after all this time, it was because since they have a smaller gene pool and they don't interbreed, the idea was they were trying to see was there any pattern discernible to Asians or Africans or Europeans or Native Americans.

00:52:25.000 If they just found a gun with a fingerprint, was there anything that would show what race it was?

00:52:33.000 And the answer was no.

00:52:34.000 But as a result of that study, he became the world's leading expert on primate, God, I'm going to say this wrong, dermatoglyphics.

00:52:43.000 Dermal ridges.

00:52:44.000 Dermal ridges.

00:52:45.000 Yeah.

00:52:45.000 Right.

00:52:46.000 I get a little tongue.

00:52:46.000 I get tied up on some of that stuff.

00:52:48.000 But I can spell it.

00:52:51.000 And so anyways, he's testified in court for smuggling cases.

00:52:54.000 People bring it in.

00:52:55.000 They'll say, no, this animal was born here.

00:52:57.000 And he can go in and show the fingerprint spot.

00:52:59.000 And so he studied the tracks, and this guy's put people away in over 400 capital cases.

00:53:04.000 He was the expert witness where the evidence was fingerprints.

00:53:08.000 And he went on Discovery Channel and said, I stake my professional reputation and name on that these are genuine.

00:53:15.000 There's an undiscovered primate leaving these tracks.

00:53:18.000 And people are saying, like, well, you just opened up, like, you know, yourself to, like, have, like, or these 400 convictions you've gotten, now the defense lawyers can say, this guy's crazy.

00:53:28.000 Right.

00:53:29.000 And he goes, I can prove it in court.

00:53:31.000 So he's not even worried about it.

00:53:32.000 And he hasn't had to, but he said he could.

00:53:38.000 What's interesting to me is the idea that there could be an undiscovered animal and that someone someday is going to bring it in.

00:53:48.000 Just like they have with the big chimpanzee that was alleged in the Congo.

00:53:54.000 It's called a bondo, actually.

00:53:55.000 Bonobos are the little ones.

00:53:57.000 They're like a cousin to a regular chimp. 1.00

00:54:00.000 They fuck a lot. 1.00

00:54:02.000 They're crazy horny ones. 1.00

00:54:04.000 The bondo apes are these giant chimps. 1.00

00:54:07.000 Or bilibis.

00:54:08.000 Yeah, Billy.

00:54:09.000 B-I-L-I, yeah. 0.76

00:54:10.000 They're in a part of the Congo where it's really, really fucking hard to get to. 0.66

00:54:15.000 And since the 1900s, there were stories of these big, giant, gray chimps. 0.59

00:54:21.000 And that was from the Michael Crichton movie, The Congo.

00:54:23.000 They actually depicted these things in there, these big, giant, gray chimps.

00:54:26.000 And they'll walk bipedal sometimes.

00:54:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:54:29.000 They're called lion killers in the near time.

00:54:31.000 Exactly, yeah.

00:54:32.000 They have two words for chimps.

00:54:33.000 They call them tree beaters or lion killers.

00:54:36.000 There's some chimps.

00:54:37.000 They have photos of dead ones.

00:54:38.000 I mean, these are real, legit, 100% real primates that are still, like, very, very controversial.

00:54:45.000 It's still, there's a lot of people that didn't know they existed until the 90s, weren't sure until Carl Armand, who's a Swiss wildlife photographer.

00:54:55.000 He got some evidence, some bones and some stuff, and then became obsessed with it and started going there.

00:55:01.000 But he has camera trap photos of them.

00:55:03.000 Right.

00:55:03.000 But not until the 2000s.

00:55:05.000 Exactly.

00:55:06.000 And he brought back some plaster casts like those that weren't even as good as this.

00:55:10.000 There's more evidence for Sasquatch than those Billy Apes. 1.00

00:55:16.000 Really?

00:55:16.000 Yeah.

00:55:16.000 Well, there's actual real good photographs of these billions of high resolution.

00:55:20.000 Now there is. 0.99

00:55:22.000 But the point is that for the longest time, people were saying that this was bullshit. 0.98

00:55:27.000 And now they know 100% that this is real. 0.97

00:55:30.000 And the Congo has people living in it.

00:55:32.000 There ain't nobody living in these places.

00:55:35.000 Not up there too much, though.

00:55:36.000 Up in that area, they're just pushing in there now.

00:55:39.000 There's still tons of virgin timber they're cutting down up there.

00:55:42.000 Right.

00:55:43.000 The Congo's so huge, too.

00:55:45.000 Another thing people don't realize.

00:55:47.000 It's literally almost as dense as the entire distance between California and New York.

00:55:54.000 There's that much Congo. 0.99

00:55:56.000 Really? 0.99

00:55:56.000 It's fucking enormous. 0.99

00:55:58.000 I didn't know it was that big. 0.99

00:55:59.000 I might be wrong.

00:56:00.000 Oh, not the country, but the Congo base. 0.58

00:56:02.000 The Congo.

00:56:02.000 The Congo River base.

00:56:04.000 The jungle.

00:56:04.000 The rainforest.

00:56:05.000 Okay, I thought you were talking about the country.

00:56:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:56:07.000 The Congo base.

00:56:09.000 That animal being something that was mythological and now is a real thing.

00:56:13.000 Does that give you guys hope? 0.99

00:56:15.000 Does that make Bigfoot people go, yeah, see, bitch? 1.00

00:56:18.000 There's some shit out there that you couldn't find. 0.99

00:56:20.000 I used to be pretty militant, like sometimes violent in my defense of the Sasquatch existence, but I don't even worry about it. 0.99

00:56:29.000 I've seen them, and I know there's enough tissue samples in there now getting examined.

00:56:33.000 There's so much going on.

00:56:35.000 There's a lot of hair experts getting in on the hair, because I'm not sure exactly what it is, but it's something about the platelets where they line up.

00:56:42.000 They've gotten better microscopes or something.

00:56:44.000 They can see them better.

00:56:45.000 I'm not sure what it is, but...

00:56:47.000 These hair experts are getting really into the Sasquatch hair because it's unique.

00:56:52.000 There's nothing that matches it.

00:56:57.000 There's just certain characteristics about Sasquatch hair.

00:57:00.000 Every sample that's legitimate gets handed in, doesn't turn out to be a horse or a bear or whatever, but every sample that gets turned in has these same characteristics.

00:57:08.000 There's a joint study going on with different experts in that field who are working around, from different countries even, that are all examining these hairs and marking these markers.

00:57:20.000 They're real excited about it.

00:57:22.000 You know what's really going to be interesting? 0.73

00:57:24.000 When the skies are filled with drones, and those drones can take images of anything anywhere they want at any time, and they just fucking send them over the Pacific Northwest.

00:57:34.000 They already kind of have that with everyone having cell phones.

00:57:36.000 That's just the thing that I just don't understand.

00:57:38.000 If there's so many people that see this, and there's still no photos.

00:57:43.000 There's photos.

00:57:44.000 Not good photos.

00:57:45.000 The hair and the blood and everything like that, I know that it doesn't take that long for them to say, you know, this is deer blood.

00:57:53.000 This is so-and-so blood.

00:57:54.000 This is so-and-so blood.

00:57:55.000 But if they're all saying that it's unknown, then has there been multiple agencies that have put out reports about this? 0.99

00:58:06.000 What the fuck are you talking about, son? 0.99

00:58:08.000 I know what you're saying. 1.00

00:58:10.000 If there's been so many blood samples and hair samples, and they're all being tested, and they can't find out what this blood is, because it doesn't take that long for them to take blood and go, this is deer blood.

00:58:23.000 So if they're all saying, hey, we don't know what this blood is, have they been giving out statements or press reports or stuff about this?

00:58:32.000 Is there information out there about them saying, we don't know what this blood is?

00:58:36.000 Yeah, there is, but the thing I understand is the science world is so political and so backstabbing and they're so afraid to do something unconventional because you just get barred in the field that they're real reticent to do stuff like that.

00:58:51.000 But there are some that have, like Dr. Fehrenbach and some others that have.

00:58:55.000 There's others that look at it.

00:58:57.000 There's a lot of people that work in the Bigfoot field anonymously, like other scientists that collaborate with them, that just don't want to deal with any ridicule or not get promoted or whatever it may be.

00:59:08.000 Yeah, I watched a documentary where a doctor, some sort of a professor at a university, was talking about the fact that even though he supports Bigfoot, he does it very reluctantly.

00:59:19.000 He supports the idea that Bigfoot exists.

00:59:21.000 He goes because, quite honestly, until one's discovered, until there's conclusive proof, he says it's just a point of ridicule.

00:59:28.000 It's just one of those things.

00:59:29.000 Are you talking about Dr. Meldrum at Idaho State?

00:59:31.000 I don't know where he's from.

00:59:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:59:34.000 He's a genius.

00:59:35.000 He's written like four books on foot anatomy, how humans have gone from quadri...

00:59:40.000 Back in evolution, we went from quadruped to bipedal.

00:59:43.000 He's the foremost expert guy in the world on that.

00:59:47.000 He was actually one of the guys at the body recovery site with us when we went up in there.

00:59:52.000 He believes the shooter story also.

00:59:55.000 He was there.

00:59:56.000 He believes that guy?

00:59:57.000 Yeah, everyone that was there that week came away believing him.

01:00:01.000 Why did he bring something back?

01:00:04.000 It's... 0.99

01:00:05.000 Silly. 0.99

01:00:05.000 I'll tell you later off the air. 0.99

01:00:07.000 Okay.

01:00:08.000 All right.

01:00:09.000 Well, there's some sort of a secret, ladies and gentlemen, that I can't share with you.

01:00:11.000 It might be the answer to this whole crazy puzzle.

01:00:14.000 It just would answer something a little bit.

01:00:18.000 Well, they were pounding beers, and they just saw that warden guy, and they didn't want to, like...

01:00:26.000 They had a drive to get back to camp, and the dude was afraid to get a DUI or something, because they were running out in the woods, just drinking beers, driving around, shooting off the track, whatever.

01:00:39.000 Jesus Christ.

01:00:40.000 And those are the guys that shot a Bigfoot baby.

01:00:43.000 I know.

01:00:44.000 Well, only the one guy did.

01:00:45.000 The other guy was anti the whole time.

01:00:47.000 And other than that, what is a good piece of evidence that someone can look at?

01:00:52.000 Freeman footage.

01:00:53.000 Freeman footage.

01:00:54.000 I'm convinced that's real.

01:00:56.000 Freeman footage.

01:00:57.000 What is Freeman footage?

01:00:58.000 Paul Freeman was the Mill Creek watershed up in the Blue Mountains of Northeast Oregon and Southeast Washington.

01:01:05.000 There's this huge area like a lot of municipalities have their own water districts and they'll own like you know tens of thousands of acres of watershed land and you're not allowed up in there because it's the water so they don't want like diesel in it or anything and he was the patrol guy up in there and he was seeing Bigfoots find their tracks and actually seeing them in the daylight up there so he started carrying a video camera and he got footage of that and I'm 100% convinced that's real Brian pull that shit up Freeman Bigfoot footage This is from the 90s.

01:01:36.000 Yeah, and then he has another clip that he wouldn't... 1.00

01:01:38.000 He died.

01:01:39.000 He got diabetes and died young about 15 years ago, but he has another clip where he falls down and starts screaming, kind of crying.

01:01:47.000 He gets bluff charged for one.

01:01:48.000 He gets it real close to the big male, comes up at him like full gorilla-style charge, and he got footage of it, and he never released it because he looks so bad in it.

01:01:58.000 You know, he got, you know, pissed his pants or something.

01:02:02.000 I just saw something in the woods...

01:02:09.000 And those tracks were authenticated.

01:02:11.000 Can't see much up here.

01:02:19.000 Can't see much up here.

01:02:21.000 I hear the brush popping and stuff.

01:02:24.000 Oh, there he goes.

01:02:32.000 I keep watching.

01:02:34.000 Jesus.

01:02:39.000 Get up here.

01:02:49.000 Get up here.

01:02:49.000 Yeah, it's pretty.

01:02:54.000 From watching these videos, like whenever I think of potentially throwing a Bigfoot, I never take the camera off of it.

01:03:01.000 Where are they?

01:03:05.000 It probably dropped on the ground.

01:03:10.000 I just wonder.

01:03:13.000 It should be.

01:03:15.000 Right here.

01:03:17.000 Somewhere.

01:03:19.000 Does he see it again or is that it?

01:03:31.000 I don't think so.

01:03:33.000 Oh, is that it?

01:03:34.000 What makes you convinced that that's real?

01:03:37.000 Just like the size of it and the way it moves.

01:03:39.000 People went back up there and said it was well over seven and a half feet tall, dude.

01:03:44.000 I don't know where the comparison video is for it, but people did go up there, and then right after that, they ended up clear-cutting that whole thing and putting a campground right there.

01:03:53.000 They were actually staking it out.

01:03:55.000 There's some ribbons.

01:03:56.000 You can see the flag tying on a couple of the trees.

01:03:58.000 It was marked for being turned into a campground.

01:04:02.000 That, to me, looks way better than the Wright-Patterson or the Wright-Patterson Air Force.

01:04:07.000 Roger.

01:04:07.000 Roger Patterson footage, just because it's not as clear.

01:04:14.000 The other thing about the Patterson-Gubbin film is the copies you're seeing on TV are, like, every time they make a clone copy, it loses, like, 30% up to 30% resolution.

01:04:24.000 The original Patterson, the original footage piece, which no one knows where it is now, probably Al D'Atli has it, is really clearer.

01:04:32.000 Clearer than that.

01:04:33.000 Oh, what you see on TV, a lot of...

01:04:35.000 Nat Geo did a good digitization of it, and they've shown that.

01:04:42.000 That's the clearest version you can get now.

01:04:45.000 But the stuff you'd see on TV back in the day, it would be all blurry.

01:04:49.000 The original's not blurry.

01:04:50.000 Who's this guy, Bob Geronimus, that says that he was the gorilla? 0.98

01:04:54.000 Just some douchebag, alcoholic guy. 1.00

01:04:56.000 Just a liar. 1.00

01:04:57.000 Gimlin's neighbor. 0.97

01:04:58.000 It's like, dude, okay, you know what, the whole Kennedy assassination's over.

01:05:02.000 I'm the one that shot Kennedy.

01:05:03.000 It was me.

01:05:05.000 You know, case closed. 0.98

01:05:06.000 So he's just some crazy dude who's trying to take credit. 0.95

01:05:08.000 He's not crazy, he's just... 1.00

01:05:10.000 Asshole. 1.00

01:05:11.000 It's just kind of a... 1.00

01:05:12.000 It's a pretty dicky move if it really was a Bigfoot, if it really was a video of a live Sasquatch and this motherfucker's running around pretending that he was a part of a hoax. 0.99

01:05:22.000 Well, he's... 0.99

01:05:23.000 There's this guy...

01:05:25.000 If you're into this, you can look it up.

01:05:26.000 Roger Knight wrote...

01:05:28.000 I forget what it's called.

01:05:29.000 He wrote like a 74-page thing where he interviewed Hieronymus and went through and tore apart his story.

01:05:34.000 He's made like five different statements about how the costume was constructed.

01:05:38.000 Well, Gimlin said that it was possible that it was a hoax.

01:05:42.000 He said that he was older.

01:05:43.000 He says, I was totally convinced no one could fool me.

01:05:46.000 And of course, I'm an older man now, and I think there could have been the possibility of a hoax.

01:05:51.000 But it would have had to have been really well planned by Roger.

01:05:54.000 That's what he said.

01:05:56.000 I've talked to him.

01:05:57.000 I was just with Bob this weekend.

01:05:59.000 He's the raddest.

01:06:00.000 I swear to God, he was one of the first guys around Evil Knievel.

01:06:04.000 He was like a daredevil guy.

01:06:05.000 He's just a...

01:06:06.000 Rad guy, and salt of the earth.

01:06:09.000 And we were asking him about that, and he said, you know, the way the questioning was going, he was just getting badgered with it.

01:06:16.000 He said, like, there's always a possibility you could be hooked, but he's like, I know what I saw.

01:06:20.000 The thing was, I was looking at an eye level for my horse.

01:06:24.000 When they rode their, there's B-roll footage, you know, they ride the horse next to the tracks, and the horse prints are not going as deep as those footprints.

01:06:31.000 Really?

01:06:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:06:33.000 What do you think these fucking things eat? 1.00

01:06:36.000 Everything. 1.00

01:06:37.000 Everything a bear eats.

01:06:40.000 They're omnivores.

01:06:42.000 They obviously have a high caloric intake to be that big.

01:06:47.000 So in the wintertime, they probably eat more meats.

01:06:50.000 They'll hunt deer, elk.

01:06:51.000 They'll even hunt bear, black bear.

01:06:53.000 They hunt them.

01:06:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:06:55.000 Would they use tools?

01:06:56.000 Do they use weapons?

01:06:57.000 Sometimes, like, we've seen, like, some evidence where they've, um, where the elk, they'll flesh deer or elk out of a meadow, they'll come running, they'll take the same routes every time, and one will be, like, one will roar at one side.

01:07:08.000 Like, hunters have said they've been up, you know, bow hunters creeping up on a, on a little herd in a meadow or something, and all of a sudden they'll just god-awful roar, scream, come from one side.

01:07:17.000 They all run to the other side, and they're like, whack, you know, and, You've seen like where they'll just take a club and as the deer go running by, just club them in the front legs and shatter their front legs and then go over and break.

01:07:28.000 They'll break the neck.

01:07:29.000 When they kill them, they break the neck. 1.00

01:07:30.000 So they kill them with objects. 0.99

01:07:32.000 They use tools. 0.94

01:07:33.000 They use like a log or something.

01:07:35.000 No, I think most of the time they just use their bare hands.

01:07:38.000 They're that big that they can kill a deer with their bare hands?

01:07:41.000 Oh, easy.

01:07:42.000 Easy.

01:07:43.000 They'll pick them up.

01:07:44.000 They'll take a full-grown elk and sling it over their shoulder and walk off with it.

01:07:48.000 Jesus Christ.

01:07:49.000 Like, I've heard so many stories, like, dude, not from people that are, like, trying to bullshit me, like, you know, just people telling what they saw. 0.99

01:07:54.000 And then, you know, obviously there's some people that, you know, that guy's full of shit or whatever, but I'm talking like genuine people that you're talking to just going like, this guy's not shitting me. 0.93

01:08:02.000 And you hear these stories and... 1.00

01:08:03.000 I've never seen him kill.

01:08:05.000 I've only seen one really moving good when I was at night.

01:08:08.000 It was on the Hickory again, the Hickory Apache Reservation.

01:08:10.000 How many times have you seen Bigfoot?

01:08:12.000 Probably a half dozen, but only one time in the daylight.

01:08:16.000 And I didn't see it.

01:08:16.000 It just was standing there and I turned my head and it was gone.

01:08:19.000 And I didn't see it again.

01:08:20.000 That's the one I smelt real good.

01:08:22.000 And then the one at Hickory I saw in 2004, we had all these infrared cameras at some point at the tree line.

01:08:29.000 And it walked across the South Alpha field and came into our camp.

01:08:33.000 Everyone was down to fire.

01:08:34.000 It was kind of a spread out camp.

01:08:35.000 We were at the chief of police who was the coordinator for all law enforcement on the Hickory Apache Res.

01:08:41.000 We were on his property, and this dude was a badass.

01:08:44.000 He got in trouble for being a little too... 0.97

01:08:47.000 He beat the shit out of people. 0.99

01:08:51.000 He couldn't prove some guy broke into some old lady's house. 0.99

01:08:54.000 It's a res.

01:08:55.000 Everyone knows what's going on.

01:08:57.000 This guy's on meth, whatever.

01:08:58.000 He's stealing. 0.99

01:08:59.000 And if he couldn't prove, like if he couldn't catch the guy, he would just take him outside and beat the shit out of him. 0.99

01:09:03.000 Like, one of those guys? 0.88

01:09:04.000 So no one's coming up to this guy's ranch.

01:09:06.000 He was the very end ranch, and then it was the Continental Divide behind there.

01:09:10.000 And it went from like 25 miles to the next set of houses.

01:09:13.000 And this thing came from the Continental Divide side, came walking up, and I didn't see it walk up.

01:09:19.000 I wasn't aware of it until we had this guy who was a Special Forces colonel in the Special Forces.

01:09:25.000 Not the guy, not Jamie, the guy I was with when I saw the one on bluff at night.

01:09:29.000 And I thought it was him dressed all in black and just wearing, because it was below freezing, we're like 9,000 feet.

01:09:35.000 And I thought it was him all bundled up wearing like a Parker.

01:09:38.000 I wasn't sure, but it was all black.

01:09:40.000 I was going, what you doing?

01:09:41.000 Because I could hear fingernails going up and down the side of a tent, like that fabric, just fingernails and that fabric sound, nylon.

01:09:49.000 And it was going around the tent, and then it got over to the front where the, it was our bait tent.

01:09:54.000 We were keeping all the food we were putting out for bait.

01:09:56.000 And it was kneeling down.

01:09:57.000 I'm like, Can I get up for a second and show you?

01:10:01.000 I was watching it for a while.

01:10:03.000 I had night vision around my neck.

01:10:06.000 You don't want to get caught staring at someone through night vision at night.

01:10:11.000 I thought I was just one of us.

01:10:14.000 It walked like a man except for... 0.96

01:10:17.000 It was walking like a man, but it looked like he was looking on the ground for something.

01:10:22.000 But I think it was, in hindsight, knowing how careful they are about where they step, not to step.

01:10:27.000 They're real conscious not to leave tracks like that, for the most part.

01:10:30.000 And I think it was looking where it was stepping, so it wouldn't step in something and leave a print.

01:10:34.000 But it was just walking like this.

01:10:36.000 So it needs to step in mud or something like that to leave a...

01:10:40.000 Well, when it walked, it walked like this the whole time.

01:10:42.000 But it walked like a man, and they would kneel down, like, just get on one knee like that, and mess around at the front of the tent.

01:10:48.000 And then went over to this tent where the only girl that was coming out of there was going to her tent. 1.00

01:10:52.000 It's hard for people to hear you when you say this.

01:10:54.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:10:55.000 It was going back and forth.

01:10:57.000 And I watched it for about five minutes, and the moon was coming up.

01:10:59.000 There was almost a full...

01:11:01.000 I can't remember the exact moon.

01:11:03.000 And it was walking, and then the moon was just about to hit the field.

01:11:07.000 It was an old alfalfa field this guy had and he would plant it but the deer and elk were so thick up there he just gave up and let them eat it.

01:11:14.000 He just quit farming it and there's just alfalfa growing for like 100 acres.

01:11:19.000 And so this thing walked back across the field as the moonlight was coming down.

01:11:23.000 I just walked real fast.

01:11:23.000 I thought it was the colonel.

01:11:25.000 I go back down to camp and they were like, was that you throwing rocks, pebbles at us?

01:11:30.000 There was pebbles being thrown down by the guys.

01:11:32.000 They thought it was me.

01:11:33.000 If you're a squatch, you don't screw around. 0.90

01:11:35.000 You don't do like, hey, let's fool this guy. 0.99

01:11:37.000 You just don't do shit like that if you're out or you'll get banned. 0.98

01:11:40.000 No one wants to go out there. 0.99

01:11:41.000 If you're a squatcher, is that what you said?

01:11:43.000 Yeah, the verb.

01:11:44.000 I thought you were saying if you were a squatch.

01:11:48.000 Oh, no, if you're a squatcher.

01:11:49.000 They throw rocks at people?

01:11:51.000 Oh, yeah, dude.

01:11:51.000 Yeah, so I'll just finish real quick.

01:11:54.000 It walked away, and I go back down there, and everyone's there.

01:11:57.000 Had this guy that was bigger than me go stand by the tent.

01:12:00.000 I went back to my original position.

01:12:01.000 He was walking around the tents, and I didn't...

01:12:04.000 You know, something that's seven foot or like six and a half foot, it's not real clear.

01:12:08.000 I hadn't made mental notes how exactly big these tents were and if someone was walking around how big they'd look in scale.

01:12:16.000 But when I saw this guy was about 6'5 or so down there walking around the tent, he was just dwarfed by this thing.

01:12:23.000 I mean, it wasn't that much taller, maybe like six, nine, seven foot, but just the bull, it was just easily twice the way to him or more.

01:12:31.000 Easily, at least.

01:12:33.000 Where'd this thing go?

01:12:34.000 It walked back and just walked straight across the meadow.

01:12:36.000 And the moonlight, just as it walked past, the moonlight popped up and started hitting that whole area.

01:12:41.000 And it just went back in the woods.

01:12:43.000 And my dad, who was a total skeptic, he came out there just to camp for a week and have a father-son trip.

01:12:48.000 He actually heard them talking.

01:12:52.000 Not right then, but a night before that, he'd heard them talking.

01:12:58.000 Like a couple of them up there.

01:13:00.000 Talking?

01:13:01.000 Yeah.

01:13:01.000 They do like this, you ever heard the Sierra sounds?

01:13:03.000 No. 0.92

01:13:05.000 I got in the car, I'll burn you a couple.

01:13:06.000 These guys got hours of recordings in the Sierra Nevadas of them jabbering away.

01:13:10.000 Those things are being translated by military translators right now.

01:13:13.000 There's a breakthrough on that front, too.

01:13:15.000 There's all kinds of breakthroughs going down right now.

01:13:17.000 So this sound that they make, was it anything like what this other guy was talking about?

01:13:23.000 The guy who says he shot a baby says they were like mumbling, like almost like deaf.

01:13:27.000 No.

01:13:28.000 Yeah, he said they sound like they were profoundly deaf.

01:13:30.000 I've heard him do this a few times.

01:13:33.000 And it sounds like, to me, what it sounded like to me was kind of like, maybe like a monkey trying to talk Chinese.

01:13:40.000 Something like that, you know?

01:13:42.000 That's funny.

01:13:42.000 A monkey trying to talk Chinese.

01:13:46.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:13:46.000 But like more grumbly though. 0.96

01:13:49.000 And I've heard the low mumble.

01:13:50.000 They mumble.

01:13:51.000 So the idea is that they have a language or they just...

01:13:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:54.000 All the natives.

01:13:55.000 And you talk to any native anywhere and they'll tell you, yeah, they have a language.

01:13:58.000 And they can understand certain words we say.

01:14:02.000 They can understand certain words we say.

01:14:04.000 But we don't have a video of one of these things.

01:14:07.000 We don't have just one... 0.99

01:14:09.000 Yeah, but they could be bullshit. 0.99

01:14:10.000 No! 0.99

01:14:11.000 Okay, Freeman I'm not so sure, but I can tell you for...

01:14:14.000 Yeah, there's been...

01:14:17.000 And there's other breakthroughs going down on the Patterson-Gillen film.

01:14:19.000 What is the breakthroughs?

01:14:22.000 They've actually found some of the original trees that were back behind.

01:14:25.000 There's been so much regrowth that these guys...

01:14:28.000 This guy, he's the State Park Ranger, like the ranger cop up there for Humboldt Redwoods.

01:14:33.000 Him, Robert Letterman, then another guy, Steve Strupert, the guy that owns Bigfoot Books there in Willow Creek, spent two years going out there and going over the site and finding, and they actually found some of the original trees that are obscured.

01:14:45.000 You can't see them from the creek anymore because it's been 43 years or whatever, 45. And they're all grown up and...

01:14:54.000 They found trees in the background that were in the original PG film.

01:14:56.000 So we're going to go in there and with all this 3D laser scanning stuff, they're going to be able to get a three-dimensional view of the whole creek.

01:15:07.000 Go back in, plug in the PG film, overlay it, and they'll get a three-dimensional to a half inch how big the subject in the film is.

01:15:15.000 Well, what if it's only 5'10"?

01:15:16.000 Then what do you do?

01:15:18.000 If it's only 5'10", I just don't see that happening.

01:15:25.000 I don't know.

01:15:26.000 I trust Bob, you know, because Bob Gimlin's a really good friend of mine.

01:15:29.000 Right, but he himself said, but you said that he was badgered.

01:15:32.000 Yeah, but he'll tell you, you'd love this guy.

01:15:36.000 You would love to hang out with this guy.

01:15:37.000 I bet I would.

01:15:37.000 I mean, I believe him.

01:15:38.000 I'm not saying he's full of shit, but there's been a lot of things. 1.00

01:15:41.000 He says no way. 1.00

01:15:42.000 He said there's no way.

01:15:43.000 He said it had to be over 500 pounds.

01:15:46.000 And this guy's an expert hunter, and he's like watching the muscles move.

01:15:50.000 There's like nine different muscle movements you can see in the video.

01:15:53.000 Yeah, but isn't that possible you just put some fake muscles on it?

01:15:56.000 Dude, the guy Chambers that made Planet of the Apes back in the 60s when that was made said he could not do that.

01:16:02.000 He went to his death because there was always a rumor that he did it.

01:16:06.000 And he was just like, nope, I never did it.

01:16:08.000 He goes, I wish I could have done that.

01:16:10.000 And you're talking about two cowboys.

01:16:12.000 Roger was unemployed at the time.

01:16:15.000 Roger did buy a costume from...

01:16:19.000 I think his last name was Morris out in North Carolina.

01:16:22.000 He made a gorilla suit. 0.99

01:16:23.000 Dude, it's a shitty $400 gorilla suit. 0.98

01:16:25.000 It was for recreations in his documentary. 0.98

01:16:28.000 And that's not the suit that he wore.

01:16:31.000 So anyways, there's controversy around it for sure, but there's always people looking to like... 0.99

01:16:35.000 I just wish there was some better shit. 0.99

01:16:37.000 Oh, we all do. 0.99

01:16:38.000 And, you know, there's some footage that's going to be coming out that's in conjunction with the DNA study.

01:16:43.000 It's called the Kentucky footage.

01:16:45.000 And I've only seen part of it, but people that have seen it say it's the real deal.

01:16:50.000 There's a face shot.

01:16:51.000 How many do you think are alive, if you had a guess?

01:16:55.000 Well, we're going to start getting some hard evidence on that due to the DNA samples, but...

01:17:01.000 I would say there can't, people say there's got to be at least 2,000 just to have as many as there are around, in North America, and you're talking Canada, and Canada's big too.

01:17:09.000 I'd say, my guess would be probably 4,000 to 6,000 in North America. 0.61

01:17:14.000 How the fuck are there 4,000 to 6,000 things and no one has a good chance? 0.84

01:17:17.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 0.99

01:17:18.000 Dude, you're looking at some giant ape man. 1.00

01:17:22.000 You're shitting your pants. 0.99

01:17:22.000 People freeze. 0.99

01:17:23.000 Where do they sleep, do you think?

01:17:25.000 Do they make caves?

01:17:28.000 They definitely go to caves in extreme weather.

01:17:30.000 Really cold, real hot.

01:17:32.000 Natives where we live, there'll be fires in southern Humboldt and smoke pops out in southern Oregon.

01:17:39.000 You know, 150 miles away.

01:17:41.000 Caves are all connected.

01:17:42.000 Oh, really?

01:17:42.000 Yeah, it's the biggest cave complex in the world.

01:17:44.000 But that wouldn't explain everywhere, but...

01:17:46.000 That's pretty badass.

01:17:47.000 I didn't know about that.

01:17:48.000 Yeah.

01:17:49.000 Your microphone.

01:17:50.000 You're talking on the side of your mic.

01:17:51.000 Yeah, thanks.

01:17:52.000 Okay.

01:17:52.000 I didn't know about that.

01:17:53.000 That's interesting.

01:17:54.000 Yeah.

01:17:55.000 So they sleep in caves.

01:17:56.000 All the natives tell us that they bury their dead in caves and will pile up with rocks.

01:18:01.000 Just put big rocks no man could move.

01:18:03.000 In places where no machinery is going to go either.

01:18:06.000 And they'll just cover the cave up.

01:18:07.000 There's... 0.98

01:18:08.000 We need to find out where the fuck those caves are, dig them up and find some Bigfoot bones. 0.99

01:18:11.000 That's what we were going to do with those cadaver dogs, because we knew if that was the male that was shot, because the rumor going around is it was the mom, but the DNA shows it was a male, it was the father. 0.99

01:18:25.000 Maybe it was the grandpa.

01:18:27.000 Or the grandpa, whatever. 1.00

01:18:28.000 Old and fucked up. 1.00

01:18:30.000 Hunched over. 1.00

01:18:31.000 No muscle tone.

01:18:32.000 We'll see.

01:18:33.000 We'll see.

01:18:34.000 So, anyways, if we could have got those, I'm sure, I can't imagine them, it was as big as you said it was.

01:18:38.000 I couldn't see them carrying it more than a mile or two, you know, from there.

01:18:42.000 And then finally, and there was cliffs down the backside.

01:18:44.000 There was other cave entrances around.

01:18:47.000 They know that area like no one else.

01:18:49.000 Yeah.

01:18:49.000 Who knows where they put it, but I can't imagine them carrying a 600-pound carcass that far.

01:18:54.000 Right, but you've got to assume, too, that...

01:18:56.000 You remember that movie Grizzly Man?

01:18:58.000 Did you see that movie?

01:18:59.000 Oh, yeah, I love it.

01:18:59.000 Great movie.

01:19:00.000 Where the dude, they shot a grizzly, and when they came back just, I think it was a couple months later, there was nothing left.

01:19:10.000 Oh, right, right.

01:19:10.000 Little tiny pieces of bone.

01:19:12.000 You know what I mean?

01:19:12.000 Even a 600-pound Sasquatch or something, if you left the bone behind in the jungle, or in the woods, rather...

01:19:22.000 Right.

01:19:25.000 ones.

01:19:25.000 Well, where's the dead mountain lions?

01:19:27.000 Right.

01:19:27.000 We know there's mountain lions, okay?

01:19:29.000 And mountain lions live way closer to people and civilization.

01:19:32.000 I mean, they're like at the edge.

01:19:33.000 They killed a mountain lion in Santa Monica a couple months ago.

01:19:37.000 Right.

01:19:37.000 There was a mountain lion sodding in my neighborhood a couple weeks ago.

01:19:40.000 There's mountain lions.

01:19:41.000 Remember the tiger that got loose up off the 101?

01:19:44.000 That 600 pound orange tiger run?

01:19:46.000 It ran loose for three and a half weeks in a six by two and a half mile stretch of, you know, up there.

01:19:52.000 They had helicopters.

01:19:53.000 They brought in the six best track.

01:19:56.000 They brought in the six best track teams for fishing game with their dogs in all of California came in.

01:20:02.000 But it was raining.

01:20:03.000 It was winter.

01:20:03.000 I don't remember if it was raining.

01:20:04.000 Uh-huh.

01:20:04.000 But they looked for that Bengal tiger for three weeks right off the freeway between Malibu and the valley and couldn't find it until it walked up to somebody's backyard and was staring at her poodle.

01:20:15.000 Dude, what a fucking terrifying look that must have been. 0.93

01:20:19.000 Looking for a giant Bengal tiger that hasn't eaten in a week. 0.99

01:20:23.000 Right.

01:20:23.000 Or two weeks or whatever the hell it is.

01:20:26.000 And it's wandering around.

01:20:27.000 So every corner you turn, that might be it.

01:20:30.000 Every time you go down a back alley, that might be it.

01:20:33.000 Dude, we were just in a Tiger Preserve in Sumatra looking for the Orang Pin deck.

01:20:38.000 That's a different sort of accommodate.

01:20:40.000 Totally different.

01:20:41.000 Smaller.

01:20:41.000 Way smaller.

01:20:42.000 And they're not related.

01:20:44.000 Well, you know, we're all related at some point, but...

01:20:46.000 And is there evidence of this thing?

01:20:47.000 Oh dude, that is, like that's the, of all cryptids, that's the one that all scientists agree is.

01:20:53.000 Dude, the lady that runs the UN program down there for like wildlife survey, she's seen it three times.

01:20:58.000 Really?

01:20:59.000 Yeah.

01:20:59.000 And what does she say it is?

01:21:01.000 It's some kind of upright orangutan that walks on two feet, it's about a meter tall or so, but up to like 200, like maybe three, three and a half feet tall, but 200 pounds, ball of muscle.

01:21:10.000 Whoa.

01:21:11.000 Yeah, and so we were out there at night, and we couldn't get any of the locals to go out.

01:21:16.000 The porters, they were scared to death to go out, because those tigers, they're man-eaters.

01:21:20.000 They eat man.

01:21:21.000 The tigers, yeah.

01:21:21.000 Yeah, and we were out there at night looking for a ring, Pindex.

01:21:25.000 So you guys went out at night?

01:21:26.000 In the tiger preserve.

01:21:28.000 You did?

01:21:28.000 Yeah.

01:21:29.000 Jesus fucking Christ, what were you thinking? 1.00

01:21:31.000 That's crazy. 1.00

01:21:32.000 I was thinking it's going to take Moneymaker.

01:21:34.000 Do you think it was going to get him first?

01:21:36.000 I was hoping.

01:21:37.000 Why?

01:21:37.000 Is he the slow one?

01:21:39.000 Slower than me.

01:21:41.000 Slower than you.

01:21:42.000 Yeah, everybody's slow compared to a Tiger, man.

01:21:45.000 You know, they said, I said, well, we're in a big group.

01:21:47.000 Like, the last guy got out here like the month before or whatever, they were walking in a group.

01:21:51.000 They went out a group of 15 people and it jumped right in the middle of the line.

01:21:54.000 A guy crushed his skull, ran off to the guy dead.

01:21:57.000 Well, you know what he did once?

01:21:58.000 I used to do a bit about it in my act. 0.98

01:22:01.000 There was a boat, and I forget how many guys were in the boat, but this tiger swam out to the boat three times, killed three fucking people before it got tired of doing it. 0.99

01:22:13.000 Swam out, climbed in the boat, killed a guy, dragged his body to shore, jumped back in the water, swam out to the boat, killed another guy, and they're just rowing like a motherfucker trying to get away from this thing. 0.99

01:22:23.000 They just got bored. 0.99

01:22:24.000 That was just one night.

01:22:25.000 Yeah, just one day.

01:22:26.000 They hunt those boats.

01:22:27.000 I mean, those are those illegal wood guys.

01:22:30.000 And those guys get eaten all the time. 1.00

01:22:33.000 They could swim like a motherfucker. 1.00

01:22:35.000 I did not know that they could swim like that. 1.00

01:22:37.000 They're the aquatic cat.

01:22:38.000 That's a scary animal, man.

01:22:40.000 They're gnarlier than polar bears.

01:22:41.000 Yeah, they're right up there.

01:22:43.000 Yeah.

01:22:43.000 The thing about polar bears, though, is they just start eating you.

01:22:46.000 Right.

01:22:47.000 They don't kill you first. 0.84

01:22:48.000 A tiger at least has the good grace to crush your windpipe and take you out quick. 1.00

01:22:53.000 Polar bears eat you dick first. 1.00

01:22:55.000 Right. 0.99

01:22:56.000 They just start chewing on any part they can hold down, just like a salmon.

01:23:00.000 Yeah.

01:23:00.000 You were saying something crazy before, that you have to leave salmon out for Sasquatches in some places, or they throw rocks at people?

01:23:07.000 Yeah.

01:23:08.000 When you talk to the natives, my thing was always going to the tribes and talking to as many elders as I could.

01:23:14.000 Most of them, it's changing now more and more. 0.94

01:23:16.000 A lot of the elders that talk to me now say the kids today, they're all into hip-hop, NBA, don't give a shit about any of the traditions or the stories or the knowledge. 0.93

01:23:24.000 They just want to be... 0.97

01:23:26.000 Westernized.

01:23:28.000 Totally.

01:23:30.000 They said they would never tell me.

01:23:32.000 They were told never tell white people, but they'll tell me because I'm respectful of the subject and I'm... 0.75

01:23:38.000 And I'm listening.

01:23:40.000 But what you hear is you'll hear all these things like, well, my grandma was around, they used to do this or they used to do that.

01:23:44.000 But the one thing that they still do up and down the whole Pacific Coast, from California to Alaska, is you talk to any of those net pullers when they put the gill nets across the rivers, when they pull the nets, and if they don't put a salmon up on the other bank for the squash, it'll come down and throw rocks at them or pull the net in and take all the fish.

01:24:03.000 Well, what they should do then is do that and then bring cameras.

01:24:08.000 Don't leave them any salmon and bring cameras and boom, you got Sasquatch. 0.76

01:24:12.000 It seems like they bait them.

01:24:14.000 They want them to get this food.

01:24:16.000 It's an offering, right?

01:24:17.000 But they almost never see them take it.

01:24:20.000 They'll only take it when you're not there.

01:24:21.000 Set up cameras.

01:24:22.000 Set up some cameras.

01:24:24.000 Leave a fish.

01:24:24.000 That seems like the easiest way in the world.

01:24:26.000 They're Jedis, man. 0.54

01:24:28.000 It's so crazy.

01:24:29.000 We don't know if it's the electromagnetic field around things they pick up on, but they are hip to a lot of...

01:24:34.000 But they have walked in front of game cameras before and stuff.

01:24:36.000 They have?

01:24:37.000 Yeah, we just...

01:24:38.000 There's some game cam photos out there.

01:24:39.000 Really?

01:24:40.000 Yeah.

01:24:40.000 Where can I find those?

01:24:42.000 Game camera photos.

01:24:44.000 I might even have one.

01:24:45.000 I might have just sent you one another day.

01:24:47.000 I might have one on my phone.

01:24:50.000 Yep, Bigfoot was one of the first things that Google pulled up.

01:24:52.000 Isn't that funny?

01:24:53.000 Game, camera, photos, Bigfoot was one of the very first things.

01:24:57.000 You know why? 0.96

01:24:58.000 Google knows I'm a retard. 0.95

01:25:00.000 Ha! 0.97

01:25:02.000 Dude, it says you're a smart guy. 1.00

01:25:03.000 Oh, this is one that's totally fake as fuck. 1.00

01:25:06.000 Well, most of them are. 0.99

01:25:08.000 I don't think this one's on the internet yet.

01:25:10.000 Wow, this one's trippy.

01:25:11.000 This one looks like a monkey.

01:25:13.000 It's like something on four legs.

01:25:17.000 Oh, it's fake.

01:25:18.000 It's fake?

01:25:18.000 Yeah.

01:25:19.000 No, they have to walk on two legs or they're not real.

01:25:22.000 They're not legit.

01:25:22.000 Oh, no, they go on four sometimes for sure.

01:25:24.000 They'll knuckle walk. 0.80

01:25:25.000 Especially the young ones.

01:25:27.000 Yeah, some of these look really fake.

01:25:28.000 God.

01:25:30.000 How do you discern whether they're fake or real?

01:25:36.000 God, I wish I could get a hold of Cliff and have him send you one right now.

01:25:39.000 A lot of the best ones, dude, people don't...

01:25:41.000 You'd be surprised.

01:25:42.000 Most people aren't looking for fame and fortune like with this.

01:25:45.000 Most of the stuff that gets caught...

01:25:47.000 Oh, the Magoan...

01:25:48.000 We went to the Magoan Rim, dude.

01:25:49.000 You know, you talk about, you know, the Pacific Northwest.

01:25:52.000 The fifth largest pine forest in North America is in Arizona.

01:25:56.000 Really?

01:25:57.000 Yeah.

01:25:57.000 The Magoan Rim, that's where this is.

01:26:00.000 Oh, this might have even been the video we did.

01:26:01.000 No.

01:26:02.000 No.

01:26:03.000 What are you slowing down to a quarter speed?

01:26:05.000 What is this? 0.99

01:26:06.000 I don't see shit. 0.99

01:26:08.000 It's hard when we take something from YouTube and put it on a monitor and blow it up. 0.99

01:26:12.000 I'm not even sure what that video is.

01:26:14.000 All the footage that's with Bigfoot, none of it's in the HD or anything like that.

01:26:18.000 It's always this really low quality.

01:26:23.000 How convenient.

01:26:24.000 You know what's funny, dude, is that the best DNA sample from Asia came from Destination Truth. 0.82

01:26:30.000 You know that TV show, Destination Truth?

01:26:32.000 Yeah.

01:26:32.000 It's kind of hokey, whatever.

01:26:33.000 Yeah.

01:26:35.000 You know, they just aired it, I think, the Vietnam episode, and our team's going to go there because the thing ran past the cameraman at the base camp, ran right by him on the side, like a big eight-footer, and they got four good footprint casts because it stepped in mud in a couple spots.

01:26:54.000 Really?

01:26:54.000 Yeah, they got...

01:26:55.000 This is Destination Truth?

01:26:57.000 Yeah, the Vietnam episode.

01:26:58.000 I think it just aired like last night or the night before or something.

01:27:01.000 I don't know.

01:27:01.000 I was up in the mountains, so I wasn't...

01:27:04.000 And it's a Bigfoot?

01:27:05.000 It's a Vietnamese one. 0.99

01:27:07.000 They call them rock apes.

01:27:08.000 The non-vets call them rock apes. 0.99

01:27:10.000 You ever read about that?

01:27:11.000 The Vietnamese Bigfoot.

01:27:13.000 No, I've never heard of rock apes.

01:27:15.000 Oh, did you talk to any of those old Lerp guys or any of those old Ford Ranger guys and the behind-the-enemy-lines guys?

01:27:23.000 Or even guys, just regular Army guys.

01:27:26.000 When they were up in the Northeast, like in the Hmong Territory, the rocks would throw apes at them. 1.00

01:27:30.000 They'd call them rock apes.

01:27:31.000 They'd throw rocks at them.

01:27:33.000 They found several footprints and they also caught something on thermal imaging that might have been a bipedal creature.

01:27:41.000 It says, however, in the end, Gates couldn't be sure that they found evidence of a batutut, which led some viewers to vent their frustrations on Twitter.

01:27:55.000 Well, people vent their frustrations on Twitter no matter what you do.

01:27:59.000 I don't even want to read Twitter after all the what-ifs that we've thrown in today on the Bigfoot front.

01:28:04.000 Just read the smart people.

01:28:06.000 I don't have a smart filter.

01:28:09.000 I need a smart filter for Twitter. 1.00

01:28:11.000 No, the idiots, they should have their say, too, as long as they're not cunts. 1.00

01:28:16.000 Right? 1.00

01:28:17.000 I honestly don't read any reviews.

01:28:20.000 I don't read anything.

01:28:22.000 I don't look at any of those Bigfoot websites.

01:28:24.000 Really?

01:28:25.000 How come?

01:28:26.000 It's just, you know, it's like, you know.

01:28:28.000 You must get tired of people saying that you're crazy, Bigfoot's fake.

01:28:31.000 Because, like, I said that I was going to talk to you about this today because all my life, like I've said, I've read so many books on Bigfoot.

01:28:39.000 I've watched so many documentaries.

01:28:40.000 I've always been fascinated by it.

01:28:42.000 Right.

01:28:42.000 So you're smart.

01:28:43.000 Immediately people are like, fucking Bigfoot's fake, fucking Bigfoot's fake. 1.00

01:28:48.000 Like... 1.00

01:28:49.000 No, you don't know Bigfoot's fake. 1.00

01:28:51.000 You're just a dick. 1.00

01:28:52.000 Right. 1.00

01:28:53.000 You want everything to be negative, you fuck. 1.00

01:28:55.000 Right, you have a lot of negative. 1.00

01:28:56.000 Well, you know, it's like when people say, well, I think that this is my theory.

01:28:59.000 It's like, I've studied this thing for over 30 years and spent 25 years looking in the field actively.

01:29:06.000 And, I mean, I know they're real.

01:29:08.000 I've seen them for myself.

01:29:09.000 I've heard them.

01:29:10.000 I've talked to thousands of people that have seen them that are legitimate.

01:29:13.000 I mean, I've seen them myself.

01:29:14.000 I know they're real.

01:29:15.000 And so when people go, well, I think this, and I'll assume they're happening.

01:29:18.000 Like, they just thought of it in five minutes.

01:29:19.000 And it's like, well, that's like me going to some, like, you know, astrophysicist guy that's in a lab with, you know, a giant telescope looking up, you know, a 30-foot telescope looking at the stars studying, you know, he's got a PhD in astronomy.

01:29:33.000 And I go, I think the moon's made of cheese.

01:29:35.000 That's what I think. 0.99

01:29:37.000 That's like when people come to me and tell me what they think about Bigfoot and they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. 0.99

01:29:40.000 Yeah, it's one of those things, man. 0.98

01:29:43.000 It's one of those things where I would imagine it would get really annoying if that was your life's dedication. 0.99

01:29:48.000 I can say I believe in Bigfoot and people call me an idiot. 0.97

01:29:51.000 I'm like, whatever. 0.99

01:29:52.000 Really? 0.98

01:29:53.000 I'm a fucking host of fear factor. 1.00

01:29:55.000 I'm a fucking stand-up comedian. 1.00

01:29:57.000 There's a lot of evidence I'm probably an idiot. 1.00

01:30:00.000 The Bigfoot thing is just one little piece of the puzzle. 1.00

01:30:03.000 That shows you're smart though, really.

01:30:04.000 Well, I leave everything open.

01:30:07.000 I leave open the possibility.

01:30:09.000 There's a lot of things that I leave open. 0.87

01:30:11.000 Probably ridiculous.

01:30:12.000 But to me, that one makes sense. 0.90

01:30:14.000 There's just too many people that have seen something.

01:30:17.000 If one of them is true, it's real.

01:30:19.000 There's too many different names for it in Native American languages.

01:30:24.000 I believe there's more than a hundred different names.

01:30:27.000 There's like 508 categorized for North America.

01:30:30.000 Yeah, what's that?

01:30:31.000 There's not that many things that they believe that aren't real. 0.94

01:30:34.000 You know, they have, like, they pray to certain gods, you know, like the rain gods and fire gods and all that kind of shit. 0.54

01:30:42.000 But they don't have, like, things that aren't real. 0.67

01:30:45.000 They don't have too many, like...

01:30:47.000 Or they're spirit animals.

01:30:48.000 Yeah.

01:30:49.000 And Bigfoot's in both worlds.

01:30:50.000 Bigfoot's the one that...

01:30:51.000 Well, some of them have, like...

01:30:52.000 They think it's a real animal, though.

01:30:53.000 A crow can be in both worlds.

01:30:55.000 But, yeah, it's real.

01:30:56.000 They're not...

01:30:57.000 Dude, no native will tell you they're an animal.

01:30:59.000 They're a type of people.

01:31:01.000 So they think it's just a...

01:31:02.000 They say it's a tribe.

01:31:03.000 A tribe.

01:31:04.000 Wow.

01:31:05.000 They think of it as a tribe.

01:31:06.000 Oh, yeah.

01:31:06.000 You know what?

01:31:07.000 We were just in Australia with the aboriginals.

01:31:08.000 Those guys blew my mind.

01:31:10.000 And they have so much knowledge about these things.

01:31:14.000 So they have them in Australia?

01:31:15.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

01:31:16.000 How the fuck did they get to Australia? 0.99

01:31:18.000 We got our... 0.99

01:31:19.000 How'd the Bigfoot get to Australia?

01:31:21.000 They're not sure.

01:31:22.000 The Aboriginals all say they were there when they got there 50,000 years ago.

01:31:26.000 So the Bigfoots are good at avoiding people on every continent? 0.96

01:31:29.000 There's not like one group of Bigfoots that's a retard race... 1.00

01:31:33.000 You know, they see them in the summer way north, where it's daylight all day long, like way northern Canada and stuff.

01:31:42.000 They'll see them in small outpost villages, like native villages.

01:31:47.000 They'll go to the garbage dumps in the middle of the day, and it's like, why don't you guys film?

01:31:50.000 They just don't.

01:31:52.000 What?

01:31:53.000 Why would they just not?

01:31:54.000 That doesn't make any sense.

01:31:55.000 In 2012, that you would see a Sasquatch.

01:31:58.000 There's a lot of kids now.

01:32:00.000 Because of our show, too, more kids are in it.

01:32:02.000 They're like, oh...

01:32:03.000 Hey, we're going to try to film it.

01:32:05.000 But these people just don't.

01:32:06.000 What do you mean they just don't?

01:32:07.000 That's crazy.

01:32:09.000 Is it?

01:32:11.000 What's that?

01:32:12.000 Is it crazy?

01:32:13.000 Have you guys spent any time on reserve?

01:32:14.000 You don't think it is, Brian?

01:32:15.000 No, I don't think it's crazy.

01:32:16.000 What do you think?

01:32:17.000 They're busy looking for this thing, hunting it.

01:32:19.000 They don't carry a camera around for that one second.

01:32:22.000 No, these people aren't looking for Bigfoots.

01:32:24.000 These people live there.

01:32:25.000 Brian, are you playing devil's advocate or something?

01:32:27.000 I just know.

01:32:27.000 Are you trolling here?

01:32:29.000 What are you doing? 1.00

01:32:29.000 Are you trolling, son of a bitch? 1.00

01:32:30.000 To me, I just can't believe that one person doesn't have one of those GoCams on, those HD GoCams that cost $89 or something like that. 1.00

01:32:38.000 It would be fucking crazy if it happened. 0.52

01:32:40.000 It's going to. 0.97

01:32:42.000 Technology is catching up to the squatch, for sure.

01:32:45.000 Yeah, it's going to be the drones that catch them.

01:32:47.000 I don't know, dude.

01:32:49.000 So do you believe that they're all over the country?

01:32:51.000 I know they are.

01:32:52.000 I've personally heard them in Oregon, Washington, California, Alaska, Florida, Kentucky.

01:33:03.000 Florida? 0.81

01:33:03.000 Yeah, the skunk ape. 0.81

01:33:05.000 Really?

01:33:05.000 In Florida?

01:33:06.000 Yeah, New York.

01:33:06.000 I'm sure that's just not a Cuban.

01:33:09.000 How dare you.

01:33:10.000 Ozzie Guillen over here.

01:33:11.000 Well, they have started seeing mountain lions in Florida again.

01:33:16.000 Oh, you know, just another reason, like, government doesn't want to acknowledge Bigfoot is...

01:33:19.000 There's a few reasons why government doesn't want to do it.

01:33:21.000 Everywhere we go, when we go to these places, they say there's no mountain lions here, but they're here.

01:33:25.000 You keep hearing that until one gets hit or someone shoots one.

01:33:29.000 Well, one got shot, one recently in Ottawa.

01:33:31.000 They thought they had been extinct in Canada or in that part of Canada since the 1800s.

01:33:36.000 Right.

01:33:37.000 That was the last sighting that they had.

01:33:39.000 They shot a big one, man.

01:33:41.000 They're spread out.

01:33:42.000 They don't want to do...

01:33:43.000 They shot one in Connecticut.

01:33:44.000 Yeah.

01:33:44.000 How about that?

01:33:45.000 You have to have a management plan.

01:33:47.000 These states are all strapped.

01:33:49.000 You have to have a management plan.

01:33:50.000 They don't want to acknowledge...

01:33:51.000 That's why they say we don't have them because they don't want to have to deal with them.

01:33:54.000 But with Bigfoot, I think it was more just...

01:33:57.000 What's really going to be interesting when it comes out there real here soon is going to be the whole...

01:34:02.000 I think there's going to be a lot of PhD students write papers on this and psychiatrists and psychologists are going to write books on this and On how these things, there's all this evidence and stories and just everything right there in front of you and people refuse to acknowledge it.

01:34:17.000 Well, I think one of the reasons why they refuse to acknowledge it is what we've talked about before.

01:34:21.000 There's so many people that fake it.

01:34:22.000 There's so many people that fake UFO stories.

01:34:25.000 There's so many people that fake Bigfoot stories. 1.00

01:34:27.000 People are fucking crazy. 1.00

01:34:28.000 And there's a lot of people out there. 1.00

01:34:30.000 Not a lot of people think Bigfoot stories, really.

01:34:31.000 You don't think so?

01:34:32.000 I think anything cryptic, man.

01:34:34.000 I think Loch Ness, anything UFO, anything Bigfoot.

01:34:38.000 I think ghosts. 1.00

01:34:39.000 There's a lot of people that are full of shit when it comes to those stories. 1.00

01:34:42.000 Because those are like fun stories to bring up. 1.00

01:34:45.000 If people say they saw a crocodile, I genuinely believe them. 0.99

01:34:49.000 When you start saying you saw some shit that's in the cryptic realm, man, you might have seen it, but it also might be that you're one of those crazy fucks that likes to pretend you saw something awesome. 0.99

01:34:59.000 You talk to those people long enough and it becomes apparent that's what's going on. 0.99

01:35:02.000 See, I wish I was on your show then, because I'm way better at that than most people. 0.99

01:35:05.000 I'm really good at sniffing out bullshit. 0.98

01:35:08.000 We're really good. 0.96

01:35:09.000 We're getting ready to jump the shark here probably pretty soon because we're running out of videos to look at.

01:35:13.000 They're talking about having celebrities come on.

01:35:15.000 Dude, I'll come on.

01:35:16.000 We got a lot.

01:35:17.000 I'll come on and just let me come on and screen your guests. 0.97

01:35:19.000 I'll go, this guy's crazy.

01:35:20.000 That'd be awesome. 1.00

01:35:21.000 I'd be like, this guy's full of shit. 1.00

01:35:22.000 This guy's crazy. 1.00

01:35:22.000 They'd be screaming at me. 1.00

01:35:23.000 Like, dude, you're not telling the truth.

01:35:25.000 I know when people are telling the truth.

01:35:27.000 I smell them.

01:35:27.000 It's weird.

01:35:28.000 I've always been good at knowing crazy people. 1.00

01:35:30.000 So if you bring me in front of a crazy dude and he tells you a Bigfoot story, I'm going to tell you he's full of shit. 1.00

01:35:34.000 Well, yeah. 1.00

01:35:35.000 So, I mean, I don't believe everything I hear.

01:35:36.000 People go, you guys believe everything you hear on there.

01:35:37.000 It's like, well, most of the witnesses we're dealing with have already been vetted. 0.93

01:35:40.000 You had this one show where there was this one obviously gay guy. 0.84

01:35:45.000 Oh, Nick.

01:35:46.000 Yeah, who's like, I saw.

01:35:48.000 It was right here.

01:35:49.000 The big phone was right. 0.99

01:35:50.000 I'm like, bitch, you didn't see nothing. 0.99

01:35:51.000 No, no, that guy. 1.00

01:35:52.000 He's just trying to drag some dudes into the woods and hope somebody stumbles on your dick. 1.00

01:35:56.000 That guy was a wildlife biologist. 1.00

01:35:57.000 Is he?

01:35:58.000 Yeah.

01:35:58.000 Oh, good for him.

01:35:59.000 He's full of shit, too. 1.00

01:36:00.000 No. 1.00

01:36:01.000 You don't think so?

01:36:02.000 No, no.

01:36:03.000 I totally believe that guy.

01:36:04.000 It seemed like he was making it up as he went along to me.

01:36:07.000 No, he was a great dude.

01:36:09.000 He was great.

01:36:09.000 Yeah?

01:36:10.000 Yeah.

01:36:11.000 So you firmly believe that that guy saw a Bigfoot?

01:36:13.000 Yeah, we spent... 1.00

01:36:14.000 Where was his camera, this son of a bitch? 1.00

01:36:17.000 We were with that guy for a week. 1.00

01:36:18.000 He was our local guide, and he showed us around.

01:36:23.000 You would love that guy.

01:36:25.000 He's hilarious.

01:36:27.000 He was our guide for a week, so we were with the guy for a week.

01:36:30.000 And Matt knew the guy for several years already.

01:36:32.000 He'd been on different expeditions around the country with him.

01:36:35.000 He never, you know, and usually when people start telling those stories, like, more will come up and it changes.

01:36:43.000 Right, right, right.

01:36:44.000 And his story's just the same all the way through.

01:36:46.000 So, he wrote it down.

01:36:47.000 He's smart.

01:36:48.000 He's a good job.

01:36:48.000 Did well.

01:36:50.000 I'm not saying, I don't know.

01:36:51.000 He might be the one guy that's telling the truth, right?

01:36:53.000 You know, the one guy that we're all sure is lying, we'll see if you think he is, too.

01:36:58.000 This season?

01:36:58.000 I'm sure I'll think he's lying.

01:36:59.000 If you think he's lying, I think almost everybody's lying.

01:37:02.000 Do you?

01:37:03.000 Yeah, most people.

01:37:04.000 You know, I think if you lived out in the woods and you lived in a rural community where there are Bigfoots around and you've talked to so many people, like, dude.

01:37:10.000 Dude, I like Bigfoot so much, I thought of buying land in the Pacific Northwest just to live in the summers with hope of seeing a Bigfoot.

01:37:19.000 Dude, I know. 1.00

01:37:20.000 That's how freaking stupid I am. 1.00

01:37:22.000 I know the place. 1.00

01:37:23.000 It's for sale right now.

01:37:24.000 Really?

01:37:24.000 Yeah.

01:37:25.000 Where is it?

01:37:25.000 You selling real estate now?

01:37:27.000 No, no, no, no.

01:37:28.000 Bigfoot sighting spots.

01:37:29.000 That would be a good move, dude.

01:37:30.000 I'm talking to a guy about trying to buy it right now. 0.99

01:37:32.000 If you went and you bought real estate in heavy Bigfoot areas and set up cameras and shit. 0.98

01:37:38.000 That's the plan. 0.99

01:37:38.000 Have a lodge. 0.99

01:37:39.000 If you live somewhere in the Pacific Northwest in an area where there's heavy-duty Bigfoot sightings, Just fucking set up cameras everywhere. 0.98

01:37:47.000 Everywhere and every day you go and check those cameras. 0.82

01:37:50.000 Well, that's what the Olympic Project is going on right now.

01:37:53.000 One of the best pieces of DNA from the Olympic Project is this weird looking Bigfoot.

01:37:58.000 They got pictures of it.

01:37:59.000 Comes up and snipped the camera and licked it.

01:38:02.000 And they got saliva off the camera.

01:38:04.000 Olympic project?

01:38:05.000 Yeah.

01:38:06.000 Do they have these photos online?

01:38:07.000 Can you see the photos of him licking it?

01:38:08.000 I think so.

01:38:09.000 So where did they take the saliva?

01:38:11.000 Like, they shipped it next to air?

01:38:13.000 They brought it to a psychic, Brian.

01:38:18.000 There's a lot of cops involved in this, and we have a protocol we follow for collecting DNA evidence.

01:38:23.000 Because you guys would laugh about this.

01:38:25.000 I used to...

01:38:25.000 I was on this crazy Squatch adventure like probably 2002, 2001, 2002. And this guy bought property that had been abandoned for 11 years and the Squatches were living on the property.

01:38:37.000 And they didn't like him moving.

01:38:39.000 And all this stuff happened, but they... 0.99

01:38:42.000 They, uh, they were, we'd find these huge scats in the woods around the property, like giant, like giant human shits. 0.52

01:38:48.000 Like, you know, it'd be like a foot high and 18 inches across at the base, like big, thick, like two inch cables.

01:38:55.000 And I'd collect them and bring them down to the fishing game and drop them off.

01:38:57.000 Like, check out this Bigfoot, you know, scat, you know, can you guys DNA test it?

01:39:02.000 You know, what can you do?

01:39:02.000 Blah, blah, blah.

01:39:03.000 And then my buddy got a job at the fishing game.

01:39:06.000 Like a couple of years later, I'm all, Dude, whatever happened to my samples?

01:39:08.000 He's like, what are you talking about?

01:39:10.000 Dude, I brought all these Bigfoot scat samples and I brought in some hair a couple times. 0.99

01:39:13.000 He's like, dude, they told me about some crazy guy that brings in bear shit and drops it out and they throw it away. 0.96

01:39:19.000 They never even looked at it. 0.99

01:39:20.000 Oh, that's funny.

01:39:21.000 They wouldn't even look at it.

01:39:22.000 Yeah, they're probably like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:39:24.000 We're going to check on it for you.

01:39:25.000 It seems very unprofessional.

01:39:28.000 If you pay for something, you think that they have to give you some kind of results.

01:39:33.000 Yeah, they should really be checking. 1.00

01:39:35.000 Motherfuckers. 1.00

01:39:36.000 Goddamn tax dollars. 1.00

01:39:38.000 Did he glue hair on his chest just for this Bigfoot episode? 1.00

01:39:41.000 No, he's a savage.

01:39:42.000 You're a very good catcher. 0.98

01:39:43.000 Grinds an animal.

01:39:45.000 So the Olympic Project says they have the researchers in the Olympic Mountain Range in Washington State.

01:39:51.000 The Olympic Project is a comprehensive systematic camera trap program consisting of 50 plus cameras placed along predatory travel routes through the Olympic Mountains.

01:40:01.000 Our primary focus is to obtain a series of crystal clear photographs of Sasquatch in their natural environment.

01:40:06.000 So, so far it says they haven't gotten anything.

01:40:09.000 Is that what it says?

01:40:10.000 Yeah, they have footprints.

01:40:11.000 They don't have any.

01:40:13.000 See, everyone had to sign NDAs about the DNA. So that could be why that's not on there.

01:40:19.000 But I've seen the photos.

01:40:20.000 I thought it was a sock puppet when I first looked at it.

01:40:24.000 But the DNA came back legit.

01:40:26.000 Yeah.

01:40:27.000 This doesn't say here that they have anything.

01:40:30.000 It doesn't?

01:40:30.000 No.

01:40:31.000 Not on their website.

01:40:33.000 Dude, I'll call a guy, Derek.

01:40:34.000 They have bears and deers.

01:40:36.000 It's cool looking deer photos.

01:40:38.000 Oh, they've won all the game cam photos.

01:40:40.000 There's those big contests everywhere, like 5,000 first place. 0.99

01:40:43.000 That's fucking badass, man. 0.96

01:40:45.000 They've got some awesome photos. 0.99

01:40:46.000 They do have a lot of great Wildlife photos.

01:40:49.000 You see the mountain lion stalking the buck and the buck doesn't see it?

01:40:51.000 Yeah.

01:40:52.000 They won first plies last year with that one.

01:40:54.000 It's really cool, man.

01:40:55.000 They show this mountain lion walking through the snow, too.

01:40:59.000 And they have a bunch of bears, including bears standing upright, which is pretty fucking cool.

01:41:04.000 Bears getting really close to the trap. 0.81

01:41:06.000 Coyotes.

01:41:07.000 Elk.

01:41:08.000 Wow.

01:41:08.000 I mean, their camera trap photos make me want to buy some land and set up camera traps.

01:41:12.000 They'll be badass just to see different shit every day. 0.99

01:41:15.000 You know? 0.99

01:41:16.000 And the other problem with those...

01:41:17.000 Huge elk.

01:41:17.000 Yeah, oh dude, that's, yeah.

01:41:19.000 A mountain lion got right up to the camera. 1.00

01:41:21.000 Oh shit. 1.00

01:41:22.000 See, they look, dude, they notice it. 1.00

01:41:24.000 Like animals, if you look at most of the pictures, they'll be looking at the camera, at least on the second shot.

01:41:28.000 That infrared flash goes off, they look.

01:41:31.000 Yeah.

01:41:31.000 And there's been a lot of cameras.

01:41:33.000 The squatchers, they'll break them. 0.99

01:41:35.000 They'll turn, flip them around backwards.

01:41:37.000 I put up camera traps for my, they walked into a camp one night I was in, and I had the cameras all hidden like in tall grass and stuff, and They're all pushed down.

01:41:45.000 All of them were pushed down so that the lens was facing the ground.

01:41:49.000 Wow.

01:41:50.000 Folks, you should just check it out.

01:41:52.000 Just go to theolympicproject.com just to look at the actual real animals, the bobcats, the wildlife. 0.99

01:41:59.000 No fucking Bigfoot, though. 0.99

01:42:00.000 They got a photo of elk fucking. 1.00

01:42:04.000 Some elks paused right in front of the camera and fucked. 1.00

01:42:07.000 This is amazing. 0.99

01:42:08.000 Hey, can you put it back up on that one I can see?

01:42:11.000 Yeah, put up Olympic Project.

01:42:15.000 The photos are amazing, man.

01:42:17.000 But no Bigfoot, man.

01:42:19.000 They got a bear look in the camera.

01:42:21.000 There's two shots of a Squatch coming up to the camera real close.

01:42:26.000 But it must not be on the way.

01:42:27.000 I'll call Derek when we're done.

01:42:29.000 Well, there's one that says bear gets close to the camera. 0.98

01:42:31.000 I don't see shit up here that's... 0.96

01:42:34.000 That even says it's a Bigfoot. 0.98

01:42:37.000 I don't think it's up there just because of the NDA. I got it right here.

01:42:41.000 Yeah, there it is.

01:42:41.000 That's it.

01:42:42.000 Yeah, scroll down.

01:42:43.000 The photos are awesome, man.

01:42:45.000 It's really cool.

01:42:46.000 They're saying that's a Squatch right there?

01:42:48.000 What, that mountain lion looking thing?

01:42:49.000 No, no, down.

01:42:50.000 The next one down.

01:42:51.000 That's a Squatch?

01:42:52.000 Wait, where's the one where you can see its whole arm and eyeball and stuff?

01:42:55.000 The creature reappears.

01:42:57.000 So wait, go back up.

01:42:59.000 Oh, there, that one.

01:43:00.000 Yeah, okay.

01:43:01.000 They've done all this analyzation on that, and that hair pattern, the striation patterns on that, and the, that's like seven, that thing's like seven feet off the ground.

01:43:12.000 So it could be a bear, right?

01:43:13.000 No, bears don't get over six.

01:43:14.000 Six-six would be the top, like a trophy bear.

01:43:17.000 Well, what kind of bear?

01:43:19.000 Six, black bears.

01:43:19.000 There's only black bears.

01:43:20.000 Only black bears.

01:43:21.000 Like a producer guy.

01:43:22.000 A six-six is like about as big as a black bear gets?

01:43:25.000 Six foot's huge for a black bear.

01:43:27.000 Brian, which page did you look at?

01:43:30.000 Olympicproject.com.

01:43:31.000 Possible Squatch sightings.

01:43:33.000 Possible Squatch sightings.

01:43:35.000 It's on the menu.

01:43:36.000 Yeah, but did you guys patent the word Squatch?

01:43:39.000 Because I had never heard it before.

01:43:40.000 I should have.

01:43:41.000 Is that you?

01:43:41.000 Did you come up with it?

01:43:43.000 I know Scott Harriet.

01:43:45.000 You never know.

01:43:45.000 That guy's a comedian.

01:43:48.000 Scott, what's his name?

01:43:49.000 Harriet.

01:43:50.000 No.

01:43:50.000 He wasn't like big time or anything, but I know he did a documentary called Squatching, but I never heard anyone say it before I said it.

01:43:58.000 It's Randy Licky. 0.99

01:43:59.000 Man, this is a blurry bullshit. 1.00

01:44:05.000 Can't see shit. 1.00

01:44:06.000 I agree. 0.99

01:44:07.000 I'm not too impressed. 1.00

01:44:08.000 Sons of bitches. 1.00

01:44:09.000 But animal experts have looked at it and the hair doesn't match. 0.99

01:44:13.000 Yeah, but how could you tell?

01:44:14.000 I mean, you can't tell.

01:44:15.000 Like an animal expert at Petco?

01:44:17.000 This is the problem. 1.00

01:44:18.000 The problem is it's blurry as fuck. 1.00

01:44:20.000 Their best shit is blurry as fuck. 1.00

01:44:22.000 Well, because the camera's set to take pictures like 30 feet away, not a foot. 1.00

01:44:27.000 But their photo gallery is amazing, man.

01:44:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:44:30.000 I don't care if it's set to take 30. There should be a photo, man.

01:44:34.000 There should be a photo, one of these fucking things. 0.99

01:44:36.000 There'll be one coming. 0.99

01:44:37.000 I agree.

01:44:37.000 I hope so, man.

01:44:38.000 It's frustrating, dude.

01:44:38.000 It's really frustrating.

01:44:39.000 It must be.

01:44:40.000 What if they found out that it wasn't real?

01:44:42.000 What if you found out you'd been duped?

01:44:42.000 I've already seen them.

01:44:43.000 See, that is...

01:44:44.000 There's no way you got duped?

01:44:45.000 There's no...

01:44:46.000 I'm not worried about that at all.

01:44:47.000 So what you saw was so conclusive that you're 100% sure.

01:44:50.000 Why did you have a camera one of those 12 times? 0.99

01:44:53.000 I did, dude, but the only one I saw in the daylight I didn't because my shit got ripped off. 0.97

01:44:58.000 So conveniently, the Bigfoot psychically knew that your camera wasn't present. 0.99

01:45:04.000 Imagine if they were so sensitive.

01:45:05.000 If I would have had a camera, I wouldn't have got a picture.

01:45:07.000 You think so?

01:45:07.000 I wouldn't have.

01:45:08.000 I saw it for literally half a second.

01:45:11.000 It was just gone.

01:45:13.000 Once Google Goggles comes out, people need to go hiking for Sasquatch with Google Goggles.

01:45:17.000 There's people wearing those now, like those little...

01:45:20.000 GoPros.

01:45:21.000 Yeah, well, they have smaller ones, even like little spy ones.

01:45:24.000 Right. 0.99

01:45:24.000 Yeah, but those ones suck. 0.99

01:45:25.000 The resolution sucked. 0.99

01:45:26.000 The GoPros are HD, so it's like...

01:45:28.000 No, people are using GoPros.

01:45:29.000 People are mounting them on helmets.

01:45:30.000 Yeah, they have to. 0.50

01:45:31.000 It's going to get ridiculous.

01:45:33.000 Oh, there's a new footage we think is real of a Squatch down on the side of the road that some hillbillies got with a GoPro.

01:45:39.000 Really?

01:45:40.000 Yeah.

01:45:40.000 New footage.

01:45:41.000 If you look up from like two or three weeks ago, it's down on the side of the road.

01:45:44.000 It's up in Canada somewhere.

01:45:46.000 New Bigfoot footage?

01:45:47.000 What would you look up on YouTube?

01:45:49.000 Canadian Bigfoot.

01:45:50.000 Maybe GoPro.

01:45:51.000 A lot of sightings come from Canada.

01:45:54.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:45:56.000 And if it was just crazy people reporting them, there would be just as many settings in Hawaii, right?

01:46:02.000 Right.

01:46:03.000 Or Rhode Island.

01:46:04.000 Well, not really.

01:46:05.000 Yeah, if there was...

01:46:07.000 There's not enough place for them to hide in Hawaii.

01:46:08.000 In 1900 or 1850, everyone knew what a unicorn was.

01:46:12.000 And no one knew what a Bigfoot was.

01:46:14.000 But you can find hundreds and hundreds of newspaper clippings about people seeing a giant ape.

01:46:19.000 There's no people saying they saw a unicorn.

01:46:22.000 Right.

01:46:24.000 Yeah.

01:46:25.000 It's always the same thing, right?

01:46:27.000 Yeah.

01:46:27.000 And it follows the same patterns.

01:46:29.000 When we were in Australia, we'd always heard that Yowie's were different than, that's what they call them, the Aboriginals in Australia call them Yowie's.

01:46:36.000 We'd always heard Yowie's were different than Bigfoots.

01:46:38.000 When we were down there, we found out they're Bigfoots, man.

01:46:41.000 I mean, the way they act.

01:46:43.000 The best stuff we recorded was in Australia.

01:46:46.000 You think they're exactly the same?

01:46:48.000 I don't know about that, but the action, the patterns, all that was the same.

01:46:52.000 Did you have photos of anything that you got in Australia?

01:46:56.000 No, but all the patterns were the same.

01:46:59.000 No, the behavioral patterns.

01:47:01.000 And what people describe, there's a little, like, you know, maybe the difference between, like, a European gray wolf and a North American gray wolf.

01:47:10.000 You know what I mean?

01:47:10.000 Like, same genus and all that.

01:47:12.000 But again, a lot of photos of wolves.

01:47:15.000 Yeah, but they did a three-year study on wolverines.

01:47:20.000 All those wolverines you see on shows are in wildlife parks.

01:47:25.000 They've been like babies that were captured when their mother got killed or whatever.

01:47:28.000 But they did a three-year study, millions of dollars spent on this, and the only footage they got was from like 400 to 500 yards away on a snow field of a wolverine going away.

01:47:38.000 And that was a well-equipped, professionally funded, looking for a known animal, and they got one clip in three years.

01:47:45.000 That's pretty crazy.

01:47:46.000 Yeah, it's like snow leopards.

01:47:47.000 They didn't get any footage of snow leopards until like 2007. Do you think that people just underestimate the amount of actual forest there is in this country?

01:47:55.000 Oh, God, yeah.

01:47:56.000 You don't need a million acres of forest for a squash to hide.

01:47:59.000 Well, you think you would because otherwise people would run into it.

01:48:02.000 People run into them all the time.

01:48:04.000 They're seeing all...

01:48:05.000 It's just not that...

01:48:05.000 You guys expect it to be in the paper.

01:48:07.000 Just never with a camera. 1.00

01:48:07.000 I need a fucking photo. 1.00

01:48:09.000 Just one. 1.00

01:48:10.000 Just one.

01:48:11.000 I can't find any of this footage.

01:48:13.000 I've been with Squatchers and stuff that have said like, yeah, I had my camera around my neck or I was holding it and I saw it and it looked at me and they just shit their pants and froze.

01:48:22.000 And even after the thing was gone, they didn't even take a picture until it was gone.

01:48:27.000 Yeah, I'm looking at this Canadian, the new Canadian Bigfoot footage.

01:48:31.000 Is it the one on the side of the road?

01:48:32.000 It's down on the side?

01:48:33.000 Standing down like below the...

01:48:35.000 He's like walking through a trail.

01:48:37.000 No, no, no.

01:48:38.000 It's just a car drives by and it's down on the side of the road.

01:48:41.000 Standing there.

01:48:42.000 Oh, really?

01:48:44.000 No, this one's different.

01:48:46.000 This one's a dude walking through the world.

01:48:48.000 And when I say hillbilly, I don't mean any negative connotation of that.

01:48:50.000 To me, it's like a compliment.

01:48:53.000 Hillbilly's a compliment?

01:48:55.000 I say redneck and hillbilly, I don't mean anything bad by it at all.

01:48:58.000 Well, a lot of rednecks do like being rednecks. 1.00

01:49:00.000 Yeah, but hillbillies don't like being called hillbillies.

01:49:02.000 No?

01:49:03.000 No, I found that out the hard way.

01:49:05.000 What, they tried to fight you?

01:49:07.000 Dudes got mad at you?

01:49:08.000 Um, yeah, they get offended. 0.98

01:49:10.000 Like, one of the witnesses got really mad that I, you know, I was just joking around, like, man, that's some hillbilly shit there, you know, and he got real offended and was like... 1.00

01:49:17.000 Well, he's probably crazy. 0.99

01:49:18.000 That's why he's making up a Bigfoot story and getting offended. 1.00

01:49:22.000 Son of a bitch. 1.00

01:49:24.000 Here's the original one. 1.00

01:49:25.000 Original video is over an hour long.

01:49:28.000 So what were they doing?

01:49:29.000 They were driving around?

01:49:31.000 Yeah, this one.

01:49:32.000 It's real quick.

01:49:33.000 It's either a...

01:49:34.000 Either it's a dude...

01:49:36.000 It's either a racist video or...

01:49:38.000 Where is this thing?

01:49:40.000 Down the right.

01:49:41.000 Right in the...

01:49:42.000 Right there.

01:49:43.000 Highlight it for us?

01:49:44.000 Oh, wow.

01:49:46.000 What?

01:49:46.000 Why am I not saying that?

01:49:56.000 See where the shadow starts?

01:49:58.000 It's right in front of the first shot.

01:50:00.000 Right there.

01:50:02.000 Really?

01:50:03.000 If you go one more couple more frames, it's really clear.

01:50:10.000 Right there.

01:50:11.000 But that photo they just showed, oddly enough, was like a million times better resolution. 0.99

01:50:17.000 Yeah, that looks fake as fuck. 0.97

01:50:19.000 How is that so good? 0.99

01:50:21.000 Than this.

01:50:25.000 Which is on...

01:50:26.000 That is kind of weird.

01:50:28.000 We're going to go investigate it.

01:50:30.000 It seems like a trick of light and shadows to me.

01:50:33.000 Really?

01:50:34.000 Yeah, because it seems like it's...

01:50:35.000 Well, maybe it's because of the resolution of the video.

01:50:37.000 It could be.

01:50:38.000 We're going to go check it out.

01:50:39.000 See how it's on the side right there?

01:50:41.000 That's the clearest frame of their own video.

01:50:44.000 They went back later and filmed it and it's not there.

01:50:46.000 Or it's not there.

01:50:47.000 So it's either a man in a suit or a squatch, I think.

01:50:53.000 And then these guys released this video?

01:50:56.000 This would have been right here.

01:50:58.000 Yeah, that's so clear.

01:50:59.000 I mean, this is the same footage that they're, you know...

01:51:06.000 Listen, man, that's some shadows.

01:51:08.000 I could save you some money.

01:51:09.000 Don't go on that trip.

01:51:11.000 Dude, we gotta go look at something.

01:51:12.000 Yeah, how many sightings do you guys get in, like, a month that they ask you to investigate?

01:51:19.000 Oh, no.

01:51:20.000 Well, there's like... 1.00

01:51:22.000 See, I'm not going to wade through all this shit. 0.99

01:51:23.000 Like, look at every video. 0.99

01:51:24.000 Like, they have a whole production team that just...

01:51:26.000 All they do is scour the internet.

01:51:27.000 Like, every day there's a new video put up.

01:51:28.000 Do you worry now that the show's a hit that people might start faking it?

01:51:32.000 Oh, totally.

01:51:33.000 Yeah.

01:51:33.000 We already are.

01:51:34.000 We're getting that.

01:51:34.000 You must be, right?

01:51:35.000 But, I mean, we're pretty good.

01:51:36.000 I mean, we've been doing this...

01:51:37.000 Me, Cliff, Matt and I have been doing this like 20 years.

01:51:39.000 We're pretty good at filtering people out pretty quick.

01:51:42.000 Like, we caught one guy hoaxing in the Ohio episode.

01:51:45.000 Really?

01:51:46.000 Yeah.

01:51:47.000 Brian's from Ohio, so blame him. 0.91

01:51:50.000 And they don't want us to see a lot of stuff ahead of time.

01:51:52.000 They want us to be surprised when we see it.

01:51:54.000 Well, we all know it, just because we're in the Bigfoot community.

01:51:56.000 But I hadn't seen that video before, and I'm looking at it on a monitor this big.

01:52:00.000 And then when you see it on home, like on a big high-def TV, and you're going, you were fooled by that video at the beginning.

01:52:06.000 It's like, well, I just saw it on a black-and-white monitor, like a five-inch monitor or something.

01:52:11.000 But it was a guy, and Cliff busted him.

01:52:14.000 Cliff straight up called the guy a liar.

01:52:16.000 Really?

01:52:17.000 Right then, the guy started trembling and tearing up and stuff. 1.00

01:52:21.000 So he's a faker and a bitch. 1.00

01:52:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:52:24.000 How dare you, sir, with your fake Bigfoot footage?

01:52:26.000 Listen, man, I really want to believe.

01:52:28.000 I really do.

01:52:29.000 And I might be a little bit more skeptical than you, but I hold out hope.

01:52:33.000 It's not a matter of believing, it's knowing.

01:52:36.000 I wish I shared your enthusiasm.

01:52:38.000 It'd be fun.

01:52:39.000 I'd be out there with you.

01:52:40.000 You're enthusiastic.

01:52:40.000 I'm very enthusiastic.

01:52:41.000 I hope it's real. 0.99

01:52:43.000 I just feel like there's a lot of fucking, a lot of fuckery afoot. 0.99

01:52:46.000 That's what I feel like. 0.99

01:52:48.000 Yeah, but it's...

01:52:49.000 But if any of it's real, then it's real.

01:52:52.000 Well, if one of them is real, then it's real.

01:52:54.000 Well, yours is real, right?

01:52:56.000 So you're...

01:52:57.000 So it is real.

01:52:57.000 Well, you've seen it.

01:52:59.000 What you've seen is unfuckery.

01:53:01.000 You know more than anybody, which is probably why you're so crazy about doing it.

01:53:05.000 Well, I'm saying you know more than the average person, for sure, and even more than the average person researching it because you've seen it.

01:53:13.000 How many researchers haven't seen anything?

01:53:15.000 Has the chick on the show ever seen anything?

01:53:17.000 She seems to be the most skeptical.

01:53:19.000 Sorry, what's her name?

01:53:20.000 Renee.

01:53:20.000 Renee?

01:53:21.000 Yeah.

01:53:21.000 She saw something up in the Olympic Peninsula where the Olympic Project is and where I just got back this weekend.

01:53:28.000 She saw something.

01:53:29.000 She doesn't say what it was.

01:53:29.000 She said it looked like it was tall and there was like an arm.

01:53:35.000 And she's like, well, it could have been a bear walking upright or it could have been a bear that was just starting to drop down as it was running, like picking up speed on two legs, getting ready to drop down.

01:53:45.000 But she probably saw a squatch. 0.82

01:53:49.000 She's the most skeptical out of the group, would you agree?

01:53:51.000 Yeah, that's her job, too. 0.94

01:53:52.000 I mean, there's been times where she was like, holy shit, that was a Squatch, and they're like, you can't say that. 0.97

01:53:56.000 Oh, they tell her she can't say that? 0.96

01:53:58.000 Well, we were in Oregon, and we recorded those ones.

01:54:01.000 Do they do that?

01:54:03.000 They tell you what role you're supposed to play in the show, and she plays the skeptic role?

01:54:08.000 No, well, just when we were in Oregon, when it happened, she was like, oh my god, that had to be a Squatch, that had to be a Squatch.

01:54:14.000 I'm like, look, you can't.

01:54:16.000 Why do they say she can't say that?

01:54:18.000 Because then, I guess, like, you know...

01:54:20.000 Then she wouldn't be taking credit...

01:54:22.000 I'm probably going to get totally in trouble for having said that.

01:54:24.000 Really?

01:54:24.000 Probably.

01:54:25.000 Yeah, well, they don't...

01:54:26.000 Well, they say...

01:54:27.000 I've never been a part of a reality show like that.

01:54:28.000 Because she represents all the people at home that are skeptical.

01:54:30.000 That's her job, is to represent them.

01:54:32.000 Like, what would they say? 0.99

01:54:33.000 Like, the person that thinks it's all bullshit, what would they... 0.99

01:54:35.000 She's supposed to ask the question that that person is thinking. 0.99

01:54:38.000 What did she... 0.99

01:54:39.000 When she was seeing something, what did she see that made her so convinced?

01:54:43.000 She didn't see...

01:54:44.000 No, she heard.

01:54:46.000 Heard.

01:54:46.000 What did she hear?

01:54:47.000 Dude, we heard two Squatchers calling back and forth up in Malala River in Oregon.

01:54:52.000 And it's on the episode, but dude, if you've heard of Murphy's Law, Murphy's Law is nothing.

01:54:57.000 Squatcher's Law is way worse.

01:54:59.000 What Squatcher's Law?

01:55:00.000 If something's going to go wrong right when it happens, it will.

01:55:03.000 Like, your battery dies, or...

01:55:06.000 Whatever, just whatever it may be happens.

01:55:09.000 We've got a call from the network going, camera B, whatever isn't working.

01:55:13.000 All the tape you sent us is blank.

01:55:15.000 We get this call, we're out in the woods, and when it finally came through, someone had come back from camp.

01:55:19.000 The messages come in earlier that day, and they're like, You gotta check the camera right now and check the audio.

01:55:24.000 Like, there's nothing synced up.

01:55:25.000 And it just turned out the editor was totally blowing it.

01:55:28.000 But we stopped all filming.

01:55:30.000 He was, you know, putting the camera back into playback mode to see what he had.

01:55:33.000 The sound guy was checking his stuff.

01:55:35.000 I had a parabolic dish that wasn't part of their stuff.

01:55:37.000 I had a parabolic to record.

01:55:39.000 And it was going from, like, it would clear up and get really cold and it would, like, kind of cloud back up and then get a little bit warmer.

01:55:45.000 So I had like five layers on.

01:55:46.000 I was taking off a layer because I was burning up.

01:55:48.000 And I had the parabolic that were in pitch black.

01:55:51.000 I put the parabolic on the brush and these things started screaming. 0.67

01:55:54.000 I got my jack...

01:55:54.000 I had like my jack...

01:55:56.000 Whatever, my thermal I'm pulling off over my head right when this happens.

01:55:59.000 And we're... 0.98

01:56:00.000 Everyone's like, holy shit. 0.99

01:56:01.000 When it first happened, we were like, no way. 0.99

01:56:04.000 By the time we got up, the sound was coming between me and the camera guy.

01:56:07.000 The whole crew was between me.

01:56:09.000 So I had the parabolic dish here.

01:56:10.000 And all it picked up was just these guys ripping open Velcro, uncovering stuff, because it had been raining on and off.

01:56:18.000 The guy was going, no way!

01:56:19.000 So you can't hear anything.

01:56:20.000 Nothing comes through on the parabolic.

01:56:22.000 I mean, it's like people go, and then we hear stuff around at home.

01:56:25.000 This is what I want them to put more effort into this is capturing what we hear.

01:56:29.000 Like we wear lapel mics that are made to block out all sound except for us talking.

01:56:33.000 Right, exactly.

01:56:34.000 They don't pick up screams in the distance.

01:56:36.000 They're designed not to.

01:56:38.000 Yeah.

01:56:38.000 So, but we do have a guy that's going out with us now that has the parabolic, and he's, you know, but you have to be pointed, like, if it's coming from right there and you're pointed here, you might not get it.

01:56:48.000 Right.

01:56:48.000 Like, you gotta be pointed right at it.

01:56:50.000 And we don't have the best gear for that.

01:56:52.000 Like, it's kind of hokey.

01:56:53.000 Do you know, like, when you hear something in the woods, too, it's kind of weird.

01:56:56.000 Things echo off of trees and stuff.

01:56:59.000 It's hard to pinpoint exactly where it's coming from, right?

01:57:02.000 Totally.

01:57:02.000 Like, my ear...

01:57:04.000 Like, I was, you know, big time into surfing for a long time.

01:57:07.000 Oh, you got that surfer ear?

01:57:09.000 Yeah.

01:57:09.000 Where, like, a bone grows in your ear?

01:57:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:57:11.000 And it's worse on my left ear.

01:57:13.000 Do they fix that with surgery?

01:57:15.000 Yeah, they can.

01:57:15.000 I gotta go get it done.

01:57:17.000 But my hearing's really good, though.

01:57:19.000 But it's...

01:57:19.000 My ear will...

01:57:20.000 Because the cavity's so small, it can clog up easy.

01:57:22.000 So sometimes it's clogged and whatever.

01:57:25.000 It's like...

01:57:25.000 But they always show us going, is that a squash or something like that?

01:57:28.000 And they never show, like, where we go, like, you know, after we hear it again going, oh, that was a coyote, or that was a bear, or whatever it was.

01:57:34.000 So you feel like they edited Hokie?

01:57:36.000 They tried to make it a little bit of Hokie?

01:57:38.000 I thought season one they did, and I thought season two they did a good job, and season three, we'll see how they do.

01:57:42.000 I mean, season two, the editors did a great job.

01:57:44.000 I thought that show got way better.

01:57:46.000 How many seasons have you done so far?

01:57:48.000 This is the third one?

01:57:49.000 We shot three.

01:57:50.000 They've shown two seasons.

01:57:52.000 We just finished the third, like, ten more episodes.

01:57:54.000 We just got picked up for seasons four and five.

01:57:57.000 We start next month.

01:57:58.000 So they're going to start airing season three in the fall.

01:58:01.000 We'll already be pumping in episodes for four.

01:58:03.000 So they're going to air, like, seven and a half months straight every Sunday a new episode.

01:58:08.000 That's awesome.

01:58:08.000 So that's awesome.

01:58:09.000 So when you go out there, how many, like if you take a hundred trips, how many trips do you hear something or see some footprint or something?

01:58:19.000 Um...

01:58:23.000 It seems to go in ways.

01:58:26.000 I mean, I haven't seen a Squatch since 2007, so I haven't seen anything for five years, being out there a lot. 0.97

01:58:31.000 Damn, that's got to be frustrating.

01:58:33.000 Yeah, but from 2000... 0.99

01:58:34.000 Well, I don't tell this story.

01:58:37.000 I don't count it because it was just so frustrating, but...

01:58:40.000 My buddy and I, Bart, we got footed. 0.88

01:58:42.000 We know we got some, but it was such an old school kind of shitty thermal.

01:58:47.000 It's just these big blurry heat things.

01:58:49.000 You can't prove anything.

01:58:51.000 We know all the sounds that were with it, what happened.

01:58:54.000 It was a squash.

01:58:56.000 I was walking back out of the same place, and it was a big rainstorm, and Cliff, the guy on the show with me, the other guy Cliff, this guy Wally, he invented the ACDC adapter.

01:59:05.000 He's this billionaire guy that was funding us, buying us equipment, and Cliff had just fried his recording unit, like a $1,500 unit in the rain.

01:59:13.000 And Wally told us, like, hey, you guys can't keep blowing.

01:59:17.000 Because he grew up poor.

01:59:18.000 Even though he's a billionaire guy, he's a frugal guy.

01:59:21.000 Like, hey, you guys can't be frying stuff out in the rain.

01:59:23.000 If it's raining, just put the stuff away, you know?

01:59:25.000 So I was walking back out, and to run the thermal, it has a waterproof flap, you have to open that, stick in a cord that goes to a recording unit.

01:59:35.000 Now we have built-in recorders with the thermal.

01:59:38.000 But then we did, and I was walking back out, and I got back down where we'd seen it three weeks before, and there hadn't been a peep all night, and usually all the action happens way back up where I was coming from, and I had walked A few miles, my truck was parked right off the highway next to some houses.

01:59:54.000 And the thing ran, it was just standing behind my truck. 0.52

01:59:57.000 And if I had filmed it, it would be clear-cut.

02:00:00.000 Like, no, it was way taller than the back of my truck.

02:00:03.000 I mean, I have a shell that's about this high, and it was above the shell.

02:00:07.000 So when I filmed it, well, I didn't film it, but when I looked at it, right when I pulled my thermo out of my pocket, I'm looking at it.

02:00:14.000 And there's big water drops coming down.

02:00:16.000 So it went blurry really quick, what I was looking at.

02:00:18.000 But you could see it for a second.

02:00:20.000 And it just ran up the driveway.

02:00:22.000 And I never tell that story because everyone's like, you had a recording in it and you didn't record it.

02:00:26.000 Like, you know, blah, blah, blah. 0.99

02:00:28.000 That's got to be frustrating as fuck, dude. 0.99

02:00:30.000 Dude, that was like... 1.00

02:00:32.000 Do you ever get tired of people saying that you're crazy?

02:00:36.000 No one says that.

02:00:36.000 No one says they're crazy?

02:00:37.000 No one?

02:00:38.000 When you talk to regular folks, are you just like firmly embedded in the Sasquatch community?

02:00:43.000 I know I'm right.

02:00:44.000 I don't care what they say.

02:00:45.000 To me, it's like people going, you're crazy that the sun goes around the earth.

02:00:50.000 So for you, it's just a matter of time?

02:00:52.000 I know it's coming out.

02:00:53.000 I know it's going to come out.

02:00:55.000 Like, all this stuff going on, there's no way...

02:00:57.000 I mean, people talk about how there's not better footage.

02:01:00.000 Well, look who's trying to get the footage.

02:01:01.000 This guy's like me, you know, like running out Sony hand camcorders.

02:01:05.000 It's not professional.

02:01:07.000 It's hard to get equipment back to where these things are if you're really talking about deep woods.

02:01:11.000 Oh, yeah, batteries.

02:01:13.000 Like, all that kind of stuff, like generators.

02:01:14.000 How long do you stay out there when you do, like, a camp, when you go squatching?

02:01:18.000 Like...

02:01:19.000 Me and Cliff did a two-month or one time.

02:01:22.000 Two months.

02:01:22.000 Not deep, but we'd come back and supply it.

02:01:25.000 That was the longest we went straight.

02:01:27.000 Two months.

02:01:28.000 So you would go back how often to Civilization to get supplies?

02:01:33.000 Whenever we wanted.

02:01:34.000 Like, at least once a week.

02:01:36.000 But you were just camping out there for two months.

02:01:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:01:39.000 Jesus Christ.

02:01:40.000 And then home for like a couple weeks ago.

02:01:42.000 I went fishing.

02:01:43.000 Did you get anything when you were out there for two months?

02:01:46.000 Filmed?

02:01:47.000 Nothing?

02:01:47.000 No, Cliff took a year.

02:01:48.000 See something?

02:01:49.000 Cliff lived in Long Beach as a school teacher.

02:01:51.000 And I was like, dude, you know, all these TV companies have been calling me.

02:01:54.000 We're going to get a show going.

02:01:55.000 Just quit your job.

02:01:56.000 Come up.

02:01:57.000 We'll go squash and just...

02:01:58.000 Quit your job. 0.99

02:01:59.000 Slay your house. 1.00

02:02:00.000 We'll go squash him for a year. 0.98

02:02:01.000 He did. 0.90

02:02:02.000 Wow.

02:02:03.000 And we were out for like...

02:02:04.000 Brian was ready to do that right now.

02:02:06.000 We spent like seven months of that year.

02:02:08.000 I was thinking about it.

02:02:08.000 We did about seven months of that year out in the woods.

02:02:10.000 Seven months out in the woods.

02:02:11.000 We had thermals.

02:02:12.000 And we'd drive at night.

02:02:13.000 We'd drive these roads real slow.

02:02:15.000 We had it pretty wired to get good...

02:02:17.000 And we thought it was going to be game over.

02:02:21.000 Because I'd heard them so many times around me come up and growl and snap branches and stomp their feet walking around on two feet and stuff like that that...

02:02:28.000 I just thought, with a thermal, it's going to be...

02:02:30.000 Give us a week, we'll have footage.

02:02:32.000 Two weeks max, and we'll have it.

02:02:33.000 And it's not the case at all.

02:02:36.000 They...

02:02:38.000 I think they've been shot at so many times that even when it's pitch black, they still are always taking that evasive action.

02:02:45.000 Do you think they can see in the dark?

02:02:47.000 Oh yeah, I know they can.

02:02:48.000 They can definitely see in the dark.

02:02:49.000 So they're nocturnal creatures?

02:02:51.000 For the most part.

02:02:52.000 They'll come out in the day too.

02:02:54.000 You've never seen their eyes up close though, right?

02:02:56.000 The only thing I've seen in their eyes, the one I saw in the daylight, the eye, the way the sun was coming down, its eye was so deep set and its brow was out so far, I couldn't see that.

02:03:04.000 I remember that was one thing that struck me because it was that quick.

02:03:07.000 But the one thing I remember really clearly was the hair was real shiny.

02:03:11.000 It was super skinny.

02:03:13.000 The arm was insane.

02:03:14.000 It's skinny.

02:03:15.000 This one was.

02:03:16.000 All the ones I've seen at night were bulky, except when I saw one about your size.

02:03:20.000 It was about 5'10".

02:03:22.000 It looked like a high school linebacker or something like 5'10", 220", something like that.

02:03:26.000 So it was an adolescence, a child maybe?

02:03:29.000 Yeah.

02:03:30.000 But the big ones I saw were all bulky.

02:03:34.000 And these are all through night vision or thermal from far away. 0.99

02:03:38.000 You would think they need a lot of fucking food. 0.99

02:03:39.000 They have to. 1.00

02:03:40.000 You would think they would do a lot of damage and leave shits everywhere. 0.99

02:03:44.000 Well, they've been seen shitting in, like, flowing water. 0.99

02:03:47.000 Like, they're conscious about hiding their scat. 0.98

02:03:49.000 Really? 1.00

02:03:50.000 They just don't shit in the trail. 0.99

02:03:51.000 So you think they're, like, smart enough to know that people are a threat, actively avoid people, and hide from people? 0.99

02:03:56.000 Dude, they are the kind of people.

02:03:58.000 They're the kind of people. 1.00

02:03:59.000 Well, I mean, that foot's a footprint of a fucking human. 0.99

02:04:02.000 No, no, there's total differences. 0.99

02:04:04.000 No, you know what I mean.

02:04:05.000 I mean, it's like, it's built the big toe down the middle toe.

02:04:08.000 Yeah, I mean, not a gorilla, for sure.

02:04:10.000 It looks like a giant human footprint.

02:04:13.000 Superficially, it looks like a human foot.

02:04:14.000 There's nothing else like that in the primate world that has a foot like that.

02:04:18.000 Well, that's another interesting thing that came to light recently, scientifically.

02:04:24.000 Over the last decade, they found that, I think they call them Homo florensis.

02:04:30.000 Florensis, is that it?

02:04:32.000 God, Cliff's going to kill me.

02:04:33.000 He's always telling me how to say it right. 0.55

02:04:34.000 Because I've always said it wrong, because when I read it, I'd say it in my head.

02:04:38.000 Floresiensis.

02:04:39.000 Okay.

02:04:39.000 Well, what it is, folks, it's really like a hobbit, like a real hobbit that really did exist and may even ate people.

02:04:47.000 There's a lot of evidence that they're still there.

02:04:50.000 Really?

02:04:50.000 Yeah.

02:04:51.000 Well, this thing, they found bones recently, within the last decade, and really fascinating stuff.

02:04:57.000 They absolutely know that a very small type of human being existed.

02:05:02.000 And it was really like, it's not like a dwarf or like a mutation or, you know, a genetic screw-up or anything like that.

02:05:10.000 It's a whole species, a different, completely different species of human being that they called the Flores Man or two.

02:05:18.000 They called it like a modern-day Hobbit.

02:05:20.000 And it's amazing.

02:05:21.000 I mean, this is something that was mythological up until just a few years ago.

02:05:26.000 And now, fact, scientific fact, they know for sure this existed.

02:05:30.000 This is a real small animal.

02:05:33.000 And where do they think this thing still lives?

02:05:35.000 Well, maybe the Cape York Peninsula of Australia, like the Straits of Torres through there, like between Australia and going up into Asia.

02:05:42.000 There's reports of them on islands up in there to this day.

02:05:45.000 And then in the 80s, I really respect...

02:05:49.000 He was a missionary to the Aboriginals up in the Cape...

02:05:50.000 You know that Cape York Peninsula that goes up in Australia, that big point that goes up?

02:05:53.000 There's only, like, one road that goes around up there.

02:05:55.000 It's just empty.

02:05:57.000 And he was up there, like, visiting these real remote villages.

02:06:00.000 And he got...

02:06:00.000 A pack of them came up on him.

02:06:02.000 And what he described...

02:06:03.000 He had a forensic artist draw what he saw back then.

02:06:07.000 And it matches exactly what the reconstructions are from the remains they found in Flores Island.

02:06:12.000 Wow.

02:06:13.000 The Flores Man.

02:06:14.000 Like, it's...

02:06:16.000 How many do they think live up there?

02:06:18.000 They don't know.

02:06:19.000 They don't even know if they're still...

02:06:20.000 The aboriginals say they haven't seen them.

02:06:22.000 They say they're still around, but they haven't seen them in a while.

02:06:25.000 Well, they say they haven't seen them...

02:06:26.000 We didn't talk to them and have seen them within 10 years, but they're supposedly up in those islands up in there still.

02:06:32.000 There's another type of Bigfoot up in those...

02:06:34.000 We talked to this guy.

02:06:36.000 He's on Australia...

02:06:37.000 He's their version of public radio down in Australia, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

02:06:43.000 He's the naturalist for them.

02:06:45.000 He identifies causes.

02:06:46.000 He's a PhD.

02:06:47.000 He saw one in Papua New Guinea at 9,000 feet doing a bird survey for the UN back in the 70s.

02:06:56.000 They're seen in islands too, which is pretty trippy.

02:07:00.000 Well, in 2004, if you ask any anthropologist how many hominids like us, you know, like Homo branch, like Homo erectus, was alive 30,000 years ago, the answer would have been two, Neanderthal, Homo sapien.

02:07:15.000 And now it's four.

02:07:17.000 You know, it's the hobbits, and then they found that new kind of Neanderthal, what do they call it, Desanova, or the one up in Russia they found two years ago. 0.90

02:07:26.000 And they got the DNA out of a giant knuckle bone.

02:07:28.000 The knuckle bone's like twice as big as a human.

02:07:30.000 And they got DNA out of that.

02:07:31.000 So now there's four hominid species that are known.

02:07:34.000 And when Squatch comes out...

02:07:36.000 From talking to people that I know that were part of the DNA study, is that...

02:07:42.000 It's not a tree.

02:07:44.000 It's not the Homo sapiens, like how humans came.

02:07:47.000 The Homo branch isn't a tree. 0.57

02:07:49.000 It's a very bushy plant.

02:07:52.000 It's a lot of lateral, a lot of crossing.

02:07:55.000 And what the DNA shows is that there's five types of homin species in us.

02:08:02.000 There wasn't these clean breaks coming down through like...

02:08:05.000 Right, like most people are part Neanderthal.

02:08:08.000 Most white people especially.

02:08:09.000 Everyone that's not...

02:08:10.000 Europeans.

02:08:12.000 They said that one MMA fighter, Arlovsky maybe, is 10%.

02:08:17.000 What?

02:08:18.000 Really?

02:08:18.000 Yeah.

02:08:19.000 Where'd you hear that?

02:08:22.000 Who was I talking to?

02:08:23.000 It was someone that was part of that genetic study, but they've got people with 12% DNA. I think I would have heard that.

02:08:29.000 There's people with 12% DNA. 12% Neanderthals?

02:08:33.000 12% Neanderthals DNA in people like in that area up above Mongolia, Far East Russia.

02:08:41.000 Really?

02:08:41.000 Yeah, they've found...

02:08:42.000 If you're a European, you're at least 2%. 0.93

02:08:46.000 You have at least 2% Neanderthals. 0.86

02:08:50.000 Have you seen that footage that's been going around the internet recently?

02:08:53.000 We talked about it on yesterday's podcast.

02:08:55.000 The Neanderthal in Portugal, Spain?

02:08:58.000 Yeah.

02:08:58.000 Like the one picture where it's sitting there on a rock looking over...

02:09:01.000 No, the Neanderthal that looks like a gorilla, besides the guy's idea that they weren't, they didn't look like us, they had black skin like a gorilla, and they were really scary and muscular, and they fed on people, and they were like a super predator. 0.81

02:09:13.000 He's already got, that theory's been refuted.

02:09:15.000 Yeah, yeah, but it's fascinating.

02:09:16.000 There's a picture, dude, there's a picture of a possible Neanderthal just taken like last week that's up on the internet.

02:09:21.000 Have you seen that?

02:09:22.000 No.

02:09:23.000 Well, Dr. Meldrum, like he's impressed with it.

02:09:25.000 He doesn't authenticate it, but he...

02:09:27.000 They think there might still be Neanderthals?

02:09:29.000 Oh, you haven't heard that?

02:09:31.000 No.

02:09:31.000 Who thinks there might be Neanderthals?

02:09:33.000 A lot of scientists over in Russia, for one thing.

02:09:37.000 I don't see anything about his DNA. And China's... 0.99

02:09:41.000 They're launching...

02:09:43.000 Well, they have Yeren over in China.

02:09:46.000 We're probably going to go over there.

02:09:47.000 We're probably going to go to Russia and China and check that stuff out on the show.

02:09:52.000 In China they have an animal?

02:09:54.000 They set aside a whole national park for them recently.

02:09:56.000 What?

02:09:57.000 Yeah, Yeren.

02:09:58.000 Y-R-E-N. And what is this thing, supposedly? 0.99

02:10:00.000 It's like a Yeti.

02:10:02.000 A Yeti.

02:10:04.000 So it's in the Himalayas of Tibet.

02:10:07.000 And they just range out.

02:10:08.000 And I remember some of the best photos were from the Himalayas of footprints.

02:10:15.000 Oh, a shipping photo?

02:10:16.000 Yeah, and there was a scalp.

02:10:18.000 Dude, I know that whole story inside and out.

02:10:21.000 Yeah?

02:10:21.000 Whatever happened with that scalp that they had found?

02:10:23.000 Did they ever figure out what that thing is?

02:10:25.000 Well...

02:10:27.000 For the monks, Peter Burns stole some of this stuff.

02:10:31.000 He's still alive up in Oregon.

02:10:32.000 He's about 85, 86. He was on those original expeditions in the 50s.

02:10:37.000 He's still involved in Bigfoot research.

02:10:39.000 But there's two stories, and I'm not sure how they crossed, but they replaced the stuff that was out that people could look at with goat skins and just sewed it like the Yeti.

02:10:52.000 But they actually kept the Yeti scalp in like a sacred box.

02:10:57.000 And the other story is that, you know who was a big part of this was Jimmy, God, you know, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Jimmy Stewart.

02:11:07.000 Oh, really?

02:11:08.000 It's Bigfoot.

02:11:09.000 Jimmy Stewart's looking for Sasquatch.

02:11:12.000 Hi, I'm out here looking for Sasquatch.

02:11:13.000 He was a HUAC snitch, by the way.

02:11:15.000 He was a what?

02:11:16.000 HUAC snitch.

02:11:16.000 What is that?

02:11:17.000 The House of American Affairs Committee, when they blackballed all the people in Hollywood.

02:11:21.000 People for being communists?

02:11:22.000 Yeah, he was the guy that ratted out all the guys in Hollywood.

02:11:24.000 Anyways... 1.00

02:11:25.000 Whoa, what a dick. 1.00

02:11:26.000 He was a full-on, like, anti-evolutionary, like... 1.00

02:11:30.000 Really?

02:11:31.000 Creationist.

02:11:31.000 Oh.

02:11:32.000 That's because I'm a Neanderthal.

02:11:34.000 And he...

02:11:36.000 God made Bigfoot.

02:11:37.000 There's a book coming out about detailing how he was buying these remains that would come out of Asia.

02:11:45.000 Like, he bought, like, Trigonopithecus stuff, he bought other stuff, and he'd have it destroyed.

02:11:49.000 Yeah.

02:11:50.000 What?

02:11:51.000 Jimmy Stewart did that?

02:11:52.000 Yeah, and part of the theory...

02:11:53.000 You know the Minnesota Iceman?

02:11:55.000 You know the Minnesota Iceman?

02:11:57.000 That block of ice?

02:11:58.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:11:59.000 The guy...

02:11:59.000 Like, that's...

02:12:00.000 That was what they called him, the name.

02:12:04.000 Well, Minnesota Iceman is the most common...

02:12:05.000 Hey, punch that up.

02:12:07.000 Can you punch that up?

02:12:08.000 Minnesota Iceman?

02:12:09.000 There's a lot...

02:12:10.000 Like, they think that was a...

02:12:13.000 Well, the stories either got shot in Vietnam or in Russia.

02:12:15.000 It got shot above the eye.

02:12:18.000 And this guy's writing a book.

02:12:20.000 I know the guy that's writing the book.

02:12:21.000 He's, you know, a professor guy.

02:12:23.000 And supposedly there's a lot of evidence.

02:12:25.000 Jimmy Stewart bought that and had it destroyed.

02:12:28.000 What?

02:12:28.000 Yeah.

02:12:28.000 I'm thinking of the wrong thing.

02:12:30.000 I'm thinking of the, it wasn't Minnesota.

02:12:32.000 I'm thinking of the guy they found in the glacier, the ancient man.

02:12:34.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, that guy.

02:12:36.000 Yeah, he was a straight person.

02:12:37.000 Yeah.

02:12:38.000 This Minnesota Iceman was what?

02:12:40.000 It's all like arm over its head.

02:12:41.000 It's frozen in a block of ice and they showed it all over and then...

02:12:43.000 It says it's a hoax.

02:12:45.000 So?

02:12:46.000 Wow, that probably is pretty important.

02:12:49.000 What is that, Wikipedia?

02:12:49.000 Usually when they say it's a hoax.

02:12:50.000 Well, who said it's a hoax?

02:12:52.000 My dad.

02:12:54.000 Wikipedia, yeah.

02:12:56.000 Is it a hoax?

02:12:57.000 Wow, it's just saying it's a hoax.

02:12:59.000 All they're saying it's a hoax, period.

02:13:02.000 History.

02:13:03.000 What does it say about the hoax?

02:13:03.000 Look up the photos.

02:13:06.000 Bernard Huberman, who was like one of the top anthropologists in the world, studied that thing pretty close and he staked his whole reputation that it was real.

02:13:15.000 And what did he say it was?

02:13:17.000 Thought it was a Neanderthal that had been shot, like a recently shot Neanderthal.

02:13:20.000 That's it right there?

02:13:21.000 That's the face, yeah.

02:13:24.000 Because the power went out one time, and the ice started melting that it was in, and they said a distinct rotten meat odor smell was coming out, like rotten flesh.

02:13:36.000 Now, what do they think, if they think that the end of turtles are real?

02:13:39.000 Oh, they just went away from it.

02:13:40.000 There's the body.

02:13:43.000 It's...

02:13:45.000 That looks like a five-year-old drew it.

02:13:47.000 Yeah.

02:13:47.000 Is that a drawing?

02:13:48.000 Yeah, that's totally a drawing, because look at that.

02:13:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's just showing you what it looks like.

02:13:53.000 It had exaggerated-sized hands and feet. 0.64

02:14:02.000 Where's their photos?

02:14:03.000 Is there a photo?

02:14:04.000 Yeah, there's photos.

02:14:05.000 There's video of it and everything.

02:14:07.000 I don't know where that's all at.

02:14:09.000 And Jimmy Stewart had that destroyed, too?

02:14:11.000 Well, I don't know.

02:14:12.000 I mean, that's just...

02:14:13.000 This guy, that's what people he's talked to, that's what he's heard. 0.99

02:14:17.000 Well, if we learned anything on this show, it's fuck Jimmy Stewart. 0.99

02:14:21.000 I think we learned that. 0.99

02:14:22.000 Why?

02:14:24.000 Easy.

02:14:25.000 I just strongly believe in Jesus and don't believe in Bigfoot.

02:14:30.000 I don't know, man.

02:14:31.000 He thought it would shake people's faith in God if evolution was proven true. 1.00

02:14:35.000 What a silly bitch. 1.00

02:14:36.000 It's all fox magic, Joe. 1.00

02:14:38.000 Well, you know, how does that shake your belief in God? 0.99

02:14:41.000 Even if the Bible was 100% bullshit, it shouldn't shake your belief. 1.00

02:14:44.000 It's possible that there could be a God, but it's also possible that people are full of shit, and that story sucks. 1.00

02:14:51.000 Right? 1.00

02:14:52.000 That's like simple mathematics.

02:14:54.000 Right.

02:14:55.000 And that, if we apply to Bigfoot... 0.99

02:14:58.000 It means that there's a certain percentage of those Bigfoot stories that are bullshit. 0.98

02:15:01.000 But I hope they're real. 0.97

02:15:02.000 I hope there's a percentage that are real and that maybe soon we get something.

02:15:08.000 Give me something. 1.00

02:15:10.000 A fucking photo, a dead one. 1.00

02:15:12.000 What about the DNA? If it comes out that it's true, yeah. 1.00

02:15:15.000 I mean, if it's peer-reviewed study, it proves conclusive.

02:15:19.000 That's the thing that's driving me crazy.

02:15:20.000 It should be out by now at least.

02:15:22.000 It doesn't take that long to tell you what...

02:15:25.000 It is, yes.

02:15:26.000 Well, it is when it's a new species and there's no type specimen.

02:15:29.000 If they had a type specimen, it would be easy.

02:15:31.000 But when you have a type specimen for deer or bear, it's real quick.

02:15:34.000 So when there's no type specimen, it takes a long time to do the DNA? And when there's all kinds of markers showing homo sapien.

02:15:40.000 And people have this misperception of what DNA and how DNA works due to those TV shows. 0.99

02:15:47.000 CSI and shit. 0.91

02:15:47.000 Yeah, I mean, that stuff. 0.91

02:15:48.000 If you're talking about a cryptid species, that has nothing to do with it.

02:15:52.000 Those guys, you got three billion genomes in your DNA strand, and when they go to court, they just have to line up like seven, seven of those, like certain markers to get a conviction, right?

02:16:04.000 So, I mean, it's like...

02:16:05.000 Wow.

02:16:06.000 When you're talking about three billion, and there had been...

02:16:09.000 I thought there was like 30. If you watch those shows, it looks like there's like...

02:16:12.000 Well, they can line up as many as they want.

02:16:14.000 It's like 30 of them.

02:16:15.000 Oh, right, right.

02:16:16.000 That's what it looks like.

02:16:17.000 But they don't line up all three billion.

02:16:18.000 They go to certain sections and line up those sections.

02:16:21.000 And what happened was with the guy, the sample, he brought in the shooter.

02:16:26.000 So there'd be strands with like 2.9 billion in there, but a gap right here and a gap right here.

02:16:32.000 But you could line up other DNA samples, and those gaps would fill in, and they'd all line up.

02:16:37.000 But if none of them were complete, then he brought in the first complete one.

02:16:41.000 So now they just have to go through the peer review process and other people have to find the same conclusions that this woman has found.

02:16:47.000 Yeah, it's already happening.

02:16:47.000 What is the criticism about this woman again?

02:16:49.000 You never really got to that?

02:16:52.000 I've never met her in person.

02:16:53.000 I don't want a bad...

02:16:54.000 And people that I really respect and know that are smart people, professionals, are working with her and really like her.

02:17:00.000 And I've talked to other people, they're like, dude, she's shady.

02:17:03.000 Yeah.

02:17:04.000 So who knows?

02:17:05.000 Right.

02:17:05.000 I don't know.

02:17:06.000 I don't know her personally.

02:17:07.000 Yeah.

02:17:08.000 Now, when does the show, when does season two, or season three?

02:17:12.000 Season two's over.

02:17:13.000 Season three, they just said sometime in the fall.

02:17:16.000 Probably like Sweeps Week or something.

02:17:17.000 Because they're still airing episodes.

02:17:19.000 They'll still show them in repeats, right?

02:17:21.000 I don't know.

02:17:22.000 Popular show.

02:17:22.000 Yeah, it's real popular.

02:17:24.000 It's like the second most popular in Animal Planet history.

02:17:27.000 Didn't South Park parody you guys? 1.00

02:17:29.000 Yeah, fuckers. 1.00

02:17:31.000 Did they catch you? 1.00

02:17:32.000 Dude, because we were all laughing, like waiting for it.

02:17:34.000 We all love South Park.

02:17:36.000 And the producers that we're gonna show, like comedians, stand-up comedians and stuff, and they love this show, and there's Moneymaker. 0.99

02:17:44.000 Fuck. 0.97

02:17:45.000 So what we thought it was going to be was, because we saw some little clip that came out way earlier. 1.00

02:17:50.000 Someone got a hold of somehow.

02:17:52.000 It showed them dressed up like us, wearing backpacks and stuff.

02:17:56.000 Right.

02:17:56.000 And we thought for sure they were going to have Cartman play Moneymaker.

02:18:01.000 Because Cartman and Moneymaker are like the same guy. 1.00

02:18:03.000 Jimmy Stewart's assholes. 1.00

02:18:07.000 That's pretty good. 1.00

02:18:08.000 Jimmy Stewart's assholes. 1.00

02:18:10.000 So then they made Clip and Matt like normal, and then they made me this fucking short retard that is all scared. 1.00

02:18:20.000 I'm like this little short retard that is scared. 0.99

02:18:24.000 I can't talk. 0.80

02:18:25.000 I admit I don't talk all that great.

02:18:27.000 So they got you the worst?

02:18:29.000 Oh, dude, I'm the only guy.

02:18:29.000 They slaughtered me.

02:18:32.000 Have you seen the episode?

02:18:34.000 No, I haven't seen it.

02:18:35.000 Brian told me it's awesome.

02:18:37.000 Try to find a clip of it.

02:18:38.000 I get Cartman high.

02:18:40.000 Dude, we talked about the show on the podcast so many times that people will yell it during comedy shows.

02:18:45.000 Have you gone squatching yet?

02:18:47.000 Oh, really?

02:18:48.000 Yeah, people thought, you know, that's a very squatchy area.

02:18:50.000 Have you seen the memes of you?

02:18:52.000 What's a meme?

02:18:53.000 A meme is like an internet photo that they add words to, and then it gets passed on so many times.

02:19:00.000 You know, like, a meme would be, there's a photo of you.

02:19:04.000 Or, like, here's a perfect example.

02:19:06.000 You know Giorgio Suclos from Ancient Aliens?

02:19:08.000 There's a photo of him that says, I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.

02:19:13.000 It's like, it's always one of those type things.

02:19:17.000 There's only one answer, aliens.

02:19:19.000 And it would be the same photo, but with different texts, but there's awesome ones of you, where it's like, that's a tree, this seems squatchy.

02:19:28.000 Yeah.

02:19:30.000 See if you can find them, Brian.

02:19:32.000 They're in the Rogan board thread for this.

02:19:35.000 I was throwing Squatchy.

02:19:36.000 Pull one up if you can.

02:19:38.000 I would say Squatchy a lot, but I started saying it even more when I found out it was a drinking game on college campuses.

02:19:43.000 Kids watch our show, and every time we say Squatch or Squatchy, they drink.

02:19:47.000 You're going to kill somebody.

02:19:48.000 I'd say it like four times. 0.99

02:19:49.000 You can tell this place is Squatchy.

02:19:51.000 You look around, a Squatch could cave through here and Squatch it over there. 0.99

02:19:55.000 Just to try to give him alcohol poisoning.

02:19:57.000 It was a drinking game for the UFC. If someone got rocked, I said, he's rocked!

02:20:01.000 And people would drink.

02:20:02.000 There's a bunch of other things, too.

02:20:04.000 So if you're playing along at home, oh, I'm looking at this photo, this monkey, this fake thing. 1.00

02:20:09.000 It looks fake as fuck, dude. 1.00

02:20:11.000 Oh, you know, my cousin Donnie says he knows you. 0.99

02:20:15.000 He's the little Italian guy with a thick Boston accent that worked at the Subaru dealer in Santa Monica.

02:20:20.000 Do you remember him?

02:20:22.000 A Subaru dealer in Santa Monica.

02:20:24.000 Did I look at a car there or something?

02:20:26.000 Yeah, he sold...

02:20:27.000 Never sold me a Subaru.

02:20:29.000 I don't know.

02:20:30.000 He said he knew...

02:20:30.000 Or maybe it was from the Playboy.

02:20:31.000 Did you ever go to the Playboy Mansion?

02:20:33.000 Once I hosted the Marijuana Policy Project thing there.

02:20:37.000 So I was there once.

02:20:38.000 There was a Marijuana Policy Project at a thing at the mansion.

02:20:43.000 It was...

02:20:45.000 It's like they rent it out, you know?

02:20:47.000 So it's like everybody's like, wow.

02:20:49.000 Oh, right.

02:20:49.000 And they hire a couple chicks to go around.

02:20:51.000 They're like strippers that aren't even playmates, right? 1.00

02:20:53.000 Yeah, it's a sausage factory. 0.86

02:20:55.000 It's all dude.

02:20:56.000 It's like, where's the girls?

02:20:58.000 I know he's been up there.

02:20:59.000 I don't know.

02:20:59.000 Find any of the memes of him?

02:21:01.000 Check this out.

02:21:02.000 This is how they portray it.

02:21:05.000 Bigfoot field researchers are going to say... 1.00

02:21:08.000 Would you stop scaring everyone with your dumbass myth? 0.99

02:21:11.000 People thought Atlantis was a myth, Cal. 1.00

02:21:13.000 But I was just there.

02:21:14.000 I've explored the depths of Atlantis and now I'm about to prove a new species exists.

02:21:17.000 I'm a little James Cameron.

02:21:19.000 These people aren't gonna prove anything! 1.00

02:21:21.000 To believe any of this, you either have to be a liar or stupid. 1.00

02:21:24.000 These are professional people who go around tracking Sasquatches, Cal. 1.00

02:21:27.000 They aren't liars and they aren't stupid. 0.97

02:21:30.000 Look at its trajectory. 0.98

02:21:32.000 It heads directly to the right.

02:21:33.000 It can't be human.

02:21:34.000 It's too low to the ground.

02:21:35.000 What do you think, Bobo?

02:21:37.000 Bobo thinks scary.

02:21:40.000 I'm thinking a Sasquatch.

02:21:41.000 It's not big enough to be a Squatch.

02:21:43.000 So it's a baby Squatch?

02:21:45.000 That's what I'm thinking.

02:21:46.000 I've already done my research, boys.

02:21:48.000 What you're looking at there is a jupacabra.

02:21:50.000 Jupacabra?

02:21:51.000 It's like a Sasquatch, only more elusive, more ferocious, and a little more greedy.

02:21:55.000 Oh, jupacabra, that sounds scary!

02:21:58.000 That's you!

02:21:58.000 Makes total sense.

02:21:59.000 If we rule out a human and a baby Sasquatch, jupacabra's all we really have left!

02:22:04.000 Well, I guess that's it.

02:22:05.000 You're gonna have to allow only me into the Easter egg hunt, sir.

02:22:07.000 I'm the only one qualified.

02:22:09.000 That must be awesome to have that.

02:22:12.000 I mean, to me, as a South Park fan, I would faint if that happened. 0.94

02:22:16.000 Yeah, man, they fucking parodied your show. 0.98

02:22:17.000 That's huge. 1.00

02:22:18.000 Dude, they'd be a fucking tard. 1.00

02:22:20.000 It's not really you, though. 1.00

02:22:22.000 It's just a character.

02:22:23.000 The real you has represented the Bigfoot community quite well today.

02:22:27.000 Yeah, right.

02:22:28.000 Thanks very much for the gone squatching hat. 0.99

02:22:29.000 This is pretty fucking dope. 1.00

02:22:31.000 If they did me, I would be a gay cat. 1.00

02:22:33.000 That's what you'd be. 0.99

02:22:34.000 I'd be like, hi guys.

02:22:35.000 Probably, right?

02:22:36.000 That's a stage life event.

02:22:37.000 Well, you did get to the good part, though, because I got Cartman high.

02:22:40.000 You got Cartman high?

02:22:41.000 Yeah.

02:22:41.000 I turned Cartman into a Jew.

02:22:43.000 Really?

02:22:44.000 Yeah.

02:22:45.000 Wow.

02:22:45.000 I'll check out the rest of it.

02:22:47.000 Yeah, go on South Park Studios.

02:22:48.000 They have all the episodes, and the episode is called Jupacabra, or whatever.

02:22:52.000 Jupacabra?

02:22:54.000 Jupac.

02:22:55.000 I'll just spell it out.

02:22:56.000 J-E-W-P-A-C-C-A-B-R-A. It's season 16. Jupacabra.

02:23:02.000 Yeah, like a chupacabra, but a Jew. 1.00

02:23:04.000 That's what I was figuring it was.

02:23:06.000 God bless South Park.

02:23:08.000 They're the best, man. 0.98

02:23:09.000 No one's consistently put out funny shit like those guys have. 0.99

02:23:12.000 Why the heck the fuck they hammered me? 1.00

02:23:14.000 Well, dude, look at your fucking on a Bigfoot show. 1.00

02:23:18.000 So's Moneymakers. 1.00

02:23:19.000 All of them. 1.00

02:23:20.000 They all looked retarded. 1.00

02:23:21.000 Look, that's what South Park does. 0.99

02:23:23.000 They went after you a little harder, but come on, man.

02:23:28.000 I know it should be an honor and all that.

02:23:30.000 It's an honor and you're on a Bigfoot show, man.

02:23:32.000 That should be highly respected, not made fun of.

02:23:34.000 When you get something solid, man, then the tide will change.

02:23:39.000 You're going to come in. 0.99

02:23:40.000 They're going to have a fucking float for you in downtown LA. There'll be a big parade. 1.00

02:23:44.000 You're right.

02:23:44.000 Look, we found a real Bigfoot and you and Moneymaker and the...

02:23:48.000 And they could put all this stuff back in of Renee saying, I think it's Squatch.

02:23:52.000 Because now we know Squatch is...

02:23:54.000 She doesn't always do that. 1.00

02:23:55.000 She did that when we were in Oregon. 1.00

02:23:56.000 They should have left that shit in. 1.00

02:23:58.000 Authenticity. 1.00

02:23:59.000 Yeah, she says.

02:24:00.000 She still says.

02:24:01.000 She goes, I don't know what it was.

02:24:02.000 We've got to get her on the podcast, too.

02:24:03.000 I've got to find out what makes her tick.

02:24:06.000 Is that bad?

02:24:09.000 Dude, I think you guys have a good time.

02:24:11.000 What's wrong?

02:24:12.000 Nothing. 0.95

02:24:13.000 Sounds like she's poison. 1.00

02:24:14.000 You're going to get some, Joe. 0.97

02:24:15.000 No, you're not.

02:24:16.000 No.

02:24:17.000 Oh, she's one of those. 1.00

02:24:18.000 I see what you're saying.

02:24:20.000 I would have a good time if I was a woman.

02:24:23.000 She's scissoring. 0.99

02:24:24.000 Good.

02:24:24.000 She would have a good time with me.

02:24:26.000 Mr. Garrison would have a shot. 0.99

02:24:27.000 Well, even if she wasn't gay, hanging out with you guys in the woods chasing Bigfoot would turn you gay. 0.99

02:24:32.000 That would be the first thing to go lesbian. 1.00

02:24:34.000 I gotta explain the tooth. 1.00

02:24:35.000 This fucking tweaker. 1.00

02:24:36.000 Lost a tooth? 1.00

02:24:37.000 This tweaker lady came right up to me with like four little rugrats, like all lice-infested kids. 1.00

02:24:42.000 I think it was the first of the month or something, you know, they just got their checks.

02:24:46.000 She was at like the canned food store, you know, Dented Canned Store, like cheap stuff, whatever.

02:24:50.000 I was walking by and, oh, we're big fans, we're big fans.

02:24:53.000 She'd hand me this, like, just this, looked like the Simpsons Evil baby, like unibrow and all that.

02:24:57.000 Uh-huh.

02:24:58.000 Like, frowning.

02:24:58.000 And she hands it to this, like, kid, like, two or three years old.

02:25:01.000 She's all, take a picture of all your kids.

02:25:02.000 And, like, I'm like, hey.

02:25:03.000 And I'm like, hey, buddy.

02:25:05.000 Right.

02:25:06.000 Smile for the camera.

02:25:06.000 And he just looked at me.

02:25:07.000 And I'm like, smile.

02:25:08.000 And he just looks at me.

02:25:09.000 Wham!

02:25:09.000 And head-butted me and knocked my tooth out.

02:25:11.000 A baby head-butted you and knocked your tooth out? 0.95

02:25:14.000 Yeah.

02:25:14.000 Or like a toddler.

02:25:15.000 God.

02:25:16.000 Whoa.

02:25:17.000 Dude, I find that harder to believe than Bigfoot.

02:25:20.000 Well, it was already...

02:25:21.000 I got hit in the face with a surfboard there.

02:25:24.000 Oh, it was already loose?

02:25:25.000 Well, it had been capped.

02:25:28.000 I went to Tijuana, dude.

02:25:29.000 You got capped in Tijuana?

02:25:31.000 I got a bunch of dental work in Tijuana.

02:25:33.000 Really?

02:25:34.000 Dude, my dentist was off the hook. 0.99

02:25:35.000 He's like this crazy old... 0.96

02:25:37.000 He wasn't crazy. 0.98

02:25:38.000 He's kind of like the world's most interesting man, but he looked like a short, fat Mexican Roy Orbison. 1.00

02:25:44.000 A short fat bag to get Roy Orbison.

02:25:46.000 Like the thick glasses.

02:25:47.000 He's funny.

02:25:48.000 He just had a liver transplant like six months earlier.

02:25:50.000 I was his first.

02:25:51.000 Oh, dude.

02:25:52.000 You got a minute?

02:25:54.000 Yeah.

02:25:55.000 So I was going to this legitimate clinic down in TJ that people go to, the one next to the police station.

02:26:01.000 Because they wanted like 20 grand.

02:26:03.000 I'd been hit in the face with crab blocks and surfboards and pool cues, stuff like that.

02:26:09.000 So I had all these cracked teeth and stuff so I was going to get them all fixed.

02:26:11.000 They wanted like 23 grand in the States.

02:26:14.000 So I'm going down there, I stop and see my buddy, he's a Mexican dude, he's all, oh, my fiance's uncle is a dentist down there.

02:26:20.000 He's got like, yeah, it's a cheaper clinic, you know, it's just like, like there's, there wasn't even electricity when I went there like the first day, you know.

02:26:27.000 He hadn't been practicing because he got a liver transplant, he used to be a partier.

02:26:31.000 And we go down there and like, we're doing all this work and after the second day I'm in the chair for like eight hours.

02:26:40.000 He's like, we gotta go look at pretty girls. 0.95

02:26:41.000 He's a total horndog.

02:26:42.000 He's like almost 70. He's a little short chubby guy. 0.95

02:26:44.000 He's hitting on every girl.

02:26:45.000 He's pretty...

02:26:46.000 He's cool.

02:26:46.000 He's funny.

02:26:47.000 He's interesting and whatever.

02:26:48.000 And he's hitting on all these chicks. 1.00

02:26:49.000 He's like...

02:26:49.000 So he takes us to this giant strip bar called like the Hong Kong Cafe or something.

02:26:53.000 You ever heard of that?

02:26:54.000 No.

02:26:54.000 It's like three stories.

02:26:55.000 It's like one of those...

02:26:56.000 It's like Grindhouse or something you think when you want.

02:26:59.000 It's like a full narco place. 1.00

02:27:00.000 Like, you know, full...

02:27:02.000 In Tijuana.

02:27:03.000 Yeah.

02:27:03.000 And it's three stories.

02:27:04.000 It's got like big hot tubs.

02:27:05.000 No.

02:27:06.000 Are you wearing a gone squatching hat while you're wandering around this place?

02:27:10.000 I don't know what I was wearing, but I'm just probably dressed like I am now.

02:27:13.000 I want to picture you in a Gone Squatch and hat, if you don't mind.

02:27:16.000 All right.

02:27:17.000 And the dude, he disappears.

02:27:19.000 I didn't know. 0.99

02:27:21.000 Apparently, every girl in there is like a hooker, and you can just get a girl and whatever. 1.00

02:27:26.000 Well, he splits, and we had a plan. 0.93

02:27:28.000 If anyone got separated for a reason, we were going to meet at the truck back at 9 o'clock or whatever it was, or 8.30.

02:27:34.000 We'd meet at the truck.

02:27:35.000 It was a couple blocks away.

02:27:37.000 Well, you know, it's 8.30.

02:27:38.000 We don't see the guy anywhere at the place.

02:27:39.000 We leave.

02:27:40.000 We go back to the truck.

02:27:41.000 He's not there.

02:27:43.000 Then we wait for, like, two hours.

02:27:45.000 My buddy's, like, going to school to be a nurse.

02:27:48.000 So he had to get back in class, like, 7.00.

02:27:50.000 Dude, I can't wait for the guy all night. 1.00

02:27:51.000 Fuck, I don't know where he is. 1.00

02:27:51.000 You know, he's Mexican. 1.00

02:27:52.000 He speaks Spanish.

02:27:53.000 You know, he's probably all right.

02:27:54.000 But he just had a liver transplant six months earlier.

02:27:57.000 And he had a couple margaritas.

02:27:59.000 So, like, we weren't sure.

02:27:59.000 Jesus Christ!

02:28:01.000 And so we go back to the States, because we were just going to cross the border every day, and he never comes home, and the family thinks I kidnapped him, that I'm part of a kidnapping, because they looked at me and thought, like, sketchy.

02:28:12.000 So I'm getting accused of kidnapping this old man.

02:28:15.000 So he never came home?

02:28:16.000 No. 1.00

02:28:17.000 So, we're like, fuck. 1.00

02:28:18.000 You know, like, I was starting to get nervous. 1.00

02:28:20.000 You know, they're like, what'd you do with him?

02:28:21.000 Like, accusing me, like, you know, over the phone.

02:28:23.000 Oh, wow. 0.64

02:28:24.000 And, um, I was like, I was saying, well, I just got, and I was covering for the guy, you know, going like, well, I don't want to say the guy's split with a hooker, you know? 0.97

02:28:31.000 Right.

02:28:32.000 You know, his wife's all upset, and I'm just like, I don't know.

02:28:36.000 We were in a Mexican restaurant.

02:28:37.000 I wanted a sombrero.

02:28:38.000 I was drinking.

02:28:38.000 I had all those pain pills that day.

02:28:40.000 I was getting shots and stuff.

02:28:42.000 I said I was kind of groggy.

02:28:44.000 I was walking around looking for a sombrero.

02:28:46.000 I didn't even know what restaurant it was.

02:28:48.000 I walked for four or five blocks.

02:28:49.000 Got lost.

02:28:50.000 So I totally covered for the guy.

02:28:52.000 And the next day, he shows up.

02:28:54.000 And the family's like, where were you?

02:28:55.000 I don't know what story he told them.

02:28:57.000 But I left him in a restaurant.

02:29:00.000 He said something like that, too, that was close enough.

02:29:03.000 So he was so stoked.

02:29:04.000 And at this point, I'm going, he's a cool guy to go party with, but he's not a very good dentist.

02:29:09.000 And at this point, he's all.

02:29:10.000 He's not a very good dentist.

02:29:11.000 No.

02:29:11.000 Well, he's all right.

02:29:12.000 He wasn't terrible.

02:29:13.000 But so he goes, Bobo, I thank you so much.

02:29:18.000 I'll give you half off.

02:29:20.000 The rest of your dental work.

02:29:21.000 Because I was like, I'm not going to get any more dental work from this guy.

02:29:23.000 I'm like, half off? 1.00

02:29:25.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

02:29:26.000 So you said, well, fuck it, as long as it's cheap. 1.00

02:29:29.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:29:29.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:29:31.000 What the fuck happened? 1.00

02:29:33.000 What is that noise, bro? 1.00

02:29:37.000 My computer's going crazy.

02:29:39.000 What do you mean it's going crazy?

02:29:43.000 Shitty music is that.

02:29:44.000 Yeah, what is that music?

02:29:46.000 That's the universe telling us to wrap this podcast up.

02:29:49.000 Uh-huh.

02:29:50.000 Let's just wrap this podcast up.

02:29:53.000 Mexican dude sounds badass. 0.99

02:29:55.000 What the fuck are you playing? 0.99

02:29:56.000 Is that like fake Rage Against the Machine? 1.00

02:29:59.000 Turn the volume down, bro.

02:30:21.000 Thank you very much.

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 17, 2012

Joe Rogan Experience #241 - James "Bobo" Fay

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