The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #244 - Immortal Technique

00:00:01.000 Hey, everybody! 0.99

00:00:03.000 What the fuck is going on? 0.99

00:00:05.000 Internet land? 0.99

00:00:06.000 My friends, today is going to be a lot of fun.

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00:00:23.000 We got some supplements for your brain, son, if you're interested in nootropics, in all seriousness.

00:00:28.000 That's what...

00:00:29.000 Alpha Brain is.

00:00:30.000 It's a blend of nutrients that are supposed to enhance your brain's ability to produce neurotransmitters.

00:00:38.000 Essentially, they make you a little bit smarter.

00:00:40.000 Does it work?

00:00:41.000 Yeah, it works.

00:00:42.000 I've been experimenting with nootropics since I was...

00:00:46.000 A young man.

00:00:47.000 And there's been a lot of different formulas that have come out.

00:00:52.000 Like there's a guy named Bill Romanowski.

00:00:54.000 You know who he is?

00:00:55.000 A former football player.

00:00:57.000 Get right up in the mic.

00:00:59.000 I heard him before.

00:00:59.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:01:00.000 Yeah, well he suffered a lot of concussions.

00:01:02.000 This is where I found out about it.

00:01:03.000 He suffered a lot of concussions and he started taking different nutrients that are designed to sort of stimulate your brain function and he created his own sort of blend of them.

00:01:14.000 And it's called Neuro One.

00:01:15.000 And that's how I got into nootropics from his stuff. 1.00

00:01:18.000 Have you ever seen him make like a really stupid motherfucker? 1.00

00:01:21.000 No, I can't do that. 1.00

00:01:22.000 I can't do that.

00:01:23.000 You know what it does?

00:01:24.000 Honestly, for me, it feels like things come a little smoother, if that makes any sense.

00:01:30.000 No, I understand.

00:01:31.000 I know there's levels of brain function.

00:01:34.000 So you've got to figure out, well, what is that?

00:01:35.000 What are the levels of brain function? 0.99

00:01:37.000 What is it when I wake up in the morning and I just feel like a fucking dummy? 1.00

00:01:41.000 My brain is foggy. 0.99

00:01:43.000 I don't know what's going on. 1.00

00:01:45.000 If I do an interview at like 8 o'clock in the morning, I sound like a fucking idiot. 1.00

00:01:50.000 It takes me a while to get that brain cooking. 1.00

00:01:52.000 So are these more for powers of retention than things that are already in your mind so your memory is just quicker or something like that?

00:01:59.000 I have no idea.

00:02:00.000 Because they say that people retain everything or usually a huge amount of what they see every day and that is just subconscious.

00:02:07.000 So maybe what these things are doing or maybe what they're starting to be able to do Is to pull those memories straight forward because we have so much information in our mind.

00:02:16.000 I don't know.

00:02:17.000 That's a huge stretch.

00:02:19.000 I don't know.

00:02:19.000 You'd have to be a scientist to even figure.

00:02:22.000 I think what it is is, you know, there's...

00:02:26.000 How long have these been out now?

00:02:27.000 Oh, Alpha Brain?

00:02:28.000 I think we've been out for like two years now.

00:02:30.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:02:30.000 We're at the very, very beginning of something like this then.

00:02:33.000 Well, there's been a bunch of different studies on all sorts of different nootropics and some really positive results are starting to come back.

00:02:42.000 There's a new additive that we put into AlphaBrain. 0.98

00:02:45.000 I don't even know the name of the new shit. 0.95

00:02:46.000 If you're interested in any of this stuff, go to Onnit.com. 0.99

00:02:49.000 That's O-N-N-I-T. It's all explained in detail.

00:02:52.000 But whatever this new shit that we just put into AlphaBrain, that's the technical term for it. 0.97

00:02:56.000 It's been shown to improve golfers. 0.98

00:02:58.000 I don't know.

00:02:59.000 All these different things.

00:03:01.000 It has everything firing on all the right points.

00:03:07.000 You know what I mean?

00:03:07.000 It makes me feel like the difference between what I take and I don't take it is sort of like the difference between not having a cup of coffee and having a cup of coffee, but not really.

00:03:17.000 Because it's not like an addictive feeling.

00:03:20.000 It's not like a...

00:03:21.000 I get really excited about having coffee.

00:03:25.000 I can't wait to have it.

00:03:26.000 And then I get like, oh, it's like a little fix for me.

00:03:29.000 It's probably not good for you.

00:03:30.000 Yeah, I mean, it's definitely...

00:03:33.000 They say it's okay if you drink a cup a day.

00:03:36.000 But really, why is it okay if you drink a cup a day?

00:03:38.000 I mean, why is it okay to take a certain amount of stimulants?

00:03:41.000 I mean, is it really?

00:03:41.000 You know, I'm not really sure.

00:03:43.000 Too much of anything makes you an addict. 0.97

00:03:45.000 But the alpha brain doesn't make you feel stupid when it's over. 0.81

00:03:47.000 It's not like you have an up and then there's a down.

00:03:49.000 It just gets everything loose.

00:03:52.000 It's a fascinating subject and there's a lot of controversy but there's a lot of studies and a lot of very promising studies and we're going to do our own eventually.

00:04:00.000 We're just formulating the final formulation of the blend and the most recent one is the one that I like the best.

00:04:11.000 It's hard to tell the difference, to be honest with you.

00:04:13.000 It's like, maybe I'm just eating better now, too.

00:04:17.000 There's a lot of different things that come into factor when it comes to the way your brain works.

00:04:21.000 And that's something that everybody needs to consider.

00:04:23.000 If you really want...

00:04:24.000 I mean, you take a nose and then you want meth.

00:04:26.000 That's not going to help.

00:04:26.000 Yeah, it's not going to help you.

00:04:27.000 I think the most important thing that anybody could ever emphasize is to take care of your...

00:04:35.000 Take care of your body.

00:04:36.000 Take care of your meat vessel.

00:04:37.000 Take care of this thing that's taking you through life. 1.00

00:04:39.000 Don't fuck with it too much, man. 1.00

00:04:41.000 You should be careful with what you eat. 1.00

00:04:43.000 If you eat sugar every day and crap every day, you're fucking with your body, man. 1.00

00:04:47.000 You're fucking with that thing. 1.00

00:04:49.000 You're not giving it what it needs. 0.99

00:04:50.000 It's going to have some misfires.

00:04:52.000 It's going to have some malfunctions.

00:04:54.000 And then you need to realize that the age-old...

00:04:58.000 Once a man, twice a baby.

00:05:00.000 You know what I mean?

00:05:00.000 What does that mean?

00:05:02.000 You come into this world, you know, naked, defenseless.

00:05:06.000 And when you see very elderly people, and I think this gives me a great respect for all that they've been through in life, a lot of times they need help or they can't Move or something like that.

00:05:15.000 And they're dependent on somebody else to take care of them.

00:05:17.000 Right.

00:05:18.000 And seeing that vision is supposed to inspire humility in people to be like, yo, you know what?

00:05:24.000 Oh, man.

00:05:25.000 Instead, you see people honking their horn like, walk faster so I can get to nowhere.

00:05:29.000 You know what I mean?

00:05:29.000 Do you see people honking horns at old people?

00:05:31.000 Is that a New York thing? 0.91

00:05:32.000 Crazy. 0.95

00:05:32.000 They're out of control, man. 0.95

00:05:33.000 I'm from New York where people are in a rush to go nowhere.

00:05:36.000 You're rushing from work to get back home to let cable TV wash over you and do nothing.

00:05:42.000 Well, it's because the... 0.98

00:05:43.000 Idea of New York's ridiculous. 1.00

00:05:45.000 What a silly idea. 1.00

00:05:47.000 Pack that many motherfuckers into one small area. 1.00

00:05:49.000 I can't let that ride from a Boston dude, man, but I'm telling you right now. 1.00

00:05:53.000 Just logically, bro.

00:05:54.000 It's insane.

00:05:55.000 I'm sort of a Boston dude, but I was born in New Jersey, so I'm more of a...

00:05:58.000 That's even more of a rivalry.

00:05:59.000 It's cool.

00:06:01.000 It just seems crazy.

00:06:02.000 It's a crazy idea to stuff that many people there.

00:06:05.000 And you know what?

00:06:05.000 I thought about the exec-sam thing.

00:06:07.000 I went to do a tour in Australia and New Zealand.

00:06:10.000 And I came home and it just dawned on me.

00:06:12.000 People are like, oh, you're so smart, Technic.

00:06:14.000 You read all this stuff. 0.99

00:06:16.000 I came home and it dawned on me, damn, a human being's natural habitat is not a square of... 0.98

00:06:23.000 Concrete and steel. 0.99

00:06:25.000 This is not healthy.

00:06:27.000 You go around New York, you see trees and cages.

00:06:29.000 They're like, oh, there's the park.

00:06:30.000 I was like, yeah, good.

00:06:31.000 A reservation for trees.

00:06:33.000 Without that, there wouldn't be no oxygen in the city.

00:06:35.000 It's a weird energy that you get from only people and the things that people have created.

00:06:40.000 It's like an artificial world, like a completely different construct.

00:06:42.000 It's a city state.

00:06:43.000 Yeah, it's a weird place.

00:06:45.000 I love it, man.

00:06:46.000 I bet you do.

00:06:46.000 I love it.

00:06:47.000 You know, I'm still there.

00:06:48.000 You do or you don't, man.

00:06:49.000 I'm still there.

00:06:49.000 You do or you don't.

00:06:50.000 Some people love that shit. 1.00

00:06:51.000 My manager loves it. 1.00

00:06:52.000 He wouldn't live anywhere else.

00:06:54.000 Anyway, go to honor.com to check out if you're interested in any nootropics.

00:06:59.000 I just suggest you Google the subject.

00:07:01.000 There's a lot of controversy.

00:07:04.000 There's a lot of unsubstantiated claims.

00:07:07.000 But there's a lot of real good research that points to the fact that different nutrients can improve mental function.

00:07:13.000 And we've combined the best formulation that we know how to make.

00:07:18.000 And if you're interested in it and you try it, there's a 100% money-back guarantee for the first 30 pills.

00:07:24.000 So if you try it and you don't like it, you don't feel it, you get your money back.

00:07:29.000 You don't even have to send in the product.

00:07:30.000 We're much more concerned with people not feeling ripped off than we are with making money.

00:07:35.000 I just know that you're going to enjoy it. 1.00

00:07:37.000 It's the shit. 1.00

00:07:38.000 I turned all my friends onto it. 1.00

00:07:41.000 Not one of them is not an alpha brain head now.

00:07:45.000 That sounds terrible.

00:07:46.000 An alpha brain head. 0.71

00:07:47.000 That's so douchey.

00:07:49.000 It comes in pills.

00:07:50.000 I apologize.

00:07:50.000 Yeah, it comes in pills.

00:07:52.000 Don't snort it, you freaks. 0.99

00:07:53.000 I was just going to say, after the show, me and Joe won't crush that shit up, rolling the L. Yeah, what if that was the secret the whole time about this alpha brain and I didn't even know about it, that you're supposed to snort it? 1.00

00:08:04.000 Yeah, just snort it. 0.99

00:08:05.000 You're better off.

00:08:06.000 We also have kettlebells and battle ropes in now.

00:08:09.000 I did my first battle rope work today.

00:08:13.000 That thing's crazy.

00:08:14.000 It's really weird.

00:08:15.000 It's so awkward.

00:08:16.000 Yeah, I'll do it.

00:08:17.000 I will.

00:08:18.000 We're going to make some videos, too, because people keep asking the different exercises.

00:08:22.000 What kettlebells are is an ancient Russian form of strength training.

00:08:28.000 It's like a cannonball attached to a handle. 0.99

00:08:30.000 It's the most manly shit you could ever be involved with in your life, okay? 1.00

00:08:33.000 You're swinging around a fucking cannonball. 0.99

00:08:35.000 And if it comes to working out, it's like, for me, I think it's the best strength training work that you could do when it comes to, like, real-world application. 1.00

00:08:44.000 Like, your ability to, like...

00:08:45.000 The strength that really comes up in the real world is, like, deadlift strength and squat strength and bench press strength. 0.99

00:08:53.000 That's, like, real-world shit. 0.58

00:08:55.000 But there's a lot of people out there doing curls and tricep extensions. 1.00

00:08:59.000 You're never going to be sitting on a bench trying to push. 0.68

00:09:02.000 It's kind of silly.

00:09:03.000 I've seen the Russian weights.

00:09:05.000 I know a dude that used to do nothing but those.

00:09:07.000 And he was like, look, if I'm lifting something like this, this is like...

00:09:11.000 If all I do is this and that, there's no power in my arm to pull something up like this unless I've been doing this with 40 pound weights for years.

00:09:20.000 It definitely gave him a different type of strength than I've seen with other people.

00:09:24.000 I think more centered in the body.

00:09:26.000 Something that I didn't...

00:09:28.000 Well, it certainly strengthens your core, which is one of those words that people like to use a lot.

00:09:35.000 You've got to work in your core strength.

00:09:36.000 Your core becomes a weird classification for exercise.

00:09:42.000 But what's important is the whole thing.

00:09:46.000 Everything has to work. 0.99

00:09:47.000 And sometimes dudes fuck up and they develop big arms and shit and a big chest, but their legs don't work that good. 0.99

00:09:53.000 Or they don't have good lower back strength because they're doing silly exercises. 1.00

00:09:58.000 They're not balancing out their body.

00:10:01.000 And the best thing about kettlebell exercises is you can do, with just one of these cannonballs, you can literally work out every muscle in your body.

00:10:09.000 It's the kind of workout that you get.

00:10:10.000 The only thing that's as exhausting is doing jujitsu.

00:10:14.000 To me.

00:10:14.000 That's the only thing that gets me as tired is actually sparring and training.

00:10:18.000 It's such a brutal workout.

00:10:20.000 There's a great DVD to follow called Extreme Kettlebell Cardio Workout that Dragon Door carries. 1.00

00:10:26.000 If you can get through this motherfucker's workout with a 35 pound kettlebell, you're an animal. 0.99

00:10:31.000 And that sounds like nothing. 1.00

00:10:32.000 It's like, what a 35 pound dude. 0.52

00:10:34.000 40 minutes into this thing, you're ready to die.

00:10:37.000 It's incredible how tired it gets.

00:10:39.000 I'm going to check it out, man. 1.00

00:10:40.000 It's the shit. 1.00

00:10:41.000 Anyway, go to Onnit.com and check it out. 0.99

00:10:43.000 If you use the code name Rogan, you can save 10% off supplements, but we literally can't sell kettlebells any cheaper than we're sending them.

00:10:51.000 We're basically sending cannonballs in the mail. 0.98

00:10:55.000 It's fucking ridiculous. 0.99

00:10:57.000 It's hard to get them made. 1.00

00:10:59.000 They're made by Troy, and they're the best kettlebells that we can buy. 0.98

00:11:02.000 We found the best shit, and we're selling it for the best price that we can. 0.98

00:11:08.000 These things, though, are bulletproof. 0.99

00:11:10.000 They will last forever.

00:11:11.000 They will find them after the Armageddon.

00:11:14.000 They will be at the bottom of the new ocean. 0.99

00:11:16.000 And they'll go, what is this fucking cannonball with a handle on it? 0.97

00:11:19.000 So you buy them once, you got them for life, and literally, you might not ever need to go to a gym again. 0.99

00:11:25.000 You can do almost anything, except chin-ups.

00:11:27.000 You know, that's the only thing that I would say.

00:11:29.000 I'd say between chin-ups, bodyweight squats, and...

00:11:32.000 A couple of kettlebells.

00:11:33.000 That's like all the equipment you ever need. 0.99

00:11:35.000 Go to Onnit.com, check it all out, you dirty freaks. 1.00

00:11:38.000 They're probably good for murder also. 1.00

00:11:39.000 You could probably kill somebody with them. 0.98

00:11:41.000 There's nothing probably about that. 0.98

00:11:43.000 I don't know why we could even suggest that.

00:11:46.000 I mean, like, as a weapon.

00:11:47.000 You could use it as a weapon to keep it by your bed if somebody breaks in. 0.99

00:11:50.000 Brian, you can use sex as a weapon. 0.99

00:11:53.000 Did you listen to Pat Benatar? 0.99

00:11:54.000 Yeah, imagine that. 1.00

00:11:55.000 Somebody breaks and, listen, if you don't leave my house right now, I'm going to fuck you. 1.00

00:11:59.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:11:59.000 I'm going to shoot you in the legs, and I'm going to fuck you afterwards. 1.00

00:12:02.000 That's really got to scare the shit out of anybody, though. 1.00

00:12:05.000 Yeah, that would be not what you expect to hear. 0.59

00:12:07.000 You could totally throw somebody off.

00:12:09.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, Immortal Technique is here. 0.99

00:12:11.000 We're going to get shit popping. 0.99

00:12:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

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00:12:22.000 You're going to hit that music?

00:12:28.000 Yeah.

00:12:31.000 Brian, this is not a real audio engineer. 1.00

00:12:38.000 Shout this out, fool. 0.99

00:12:44.000 Maker of rules. 1.00

00:12:47.000 Dealing with fools. 1.00

00:12:50.000 I can cheat you blind. 1.00

00:12:54.000 My truth is the ark of the covenant buried in Ethiopia. 1.00

00:12:57.000 Watch when you fuck away the Minneapolis Somalian. 1.00

00:13:00.000 When I go home, the world I used to know is gone and I will live on my own. 1.00

00:13:03.000 For what shall I profit a rapper with creative control?

00:13:06.000 To sign a deal with the devil and lose his soul. 0.81

00:13:08.000 My still porn first expression is cold. 1.00

00:13:13.000 Subliminal racial supremacy Choking me quick like the bedtime stories of Joseph Smith Lynch mob gunning for me trying to murder my seeds The shorty put him in the Nile in the basket of reeds And now I stare into the future with a spiritual flashlight Wondering who the fuck was me in a past life Bad diet, fuck raw, die young, fast life Same as a crash flight that took off when the music died on your last night Tell them the truth and they call you a traitor Talk to them honestly That was badass. 0.99

00:13:43.000 You want to hear the whole thing? 0.99

00:13:46.000 Sumerian demons who brush their wings against the air that are breathing.

00:13:49.000 A heathen with nothing left to believe in even a reason for living.

00:13:52.000 That was forgiven by God and not religion.

00:13:54.000 Envision Jesus risen from the dead like Horus in a Baptist church. 0.98

00:13:58.000 Shaking off the rigor mortis.

00:14:00.000 The mortis should be illegal instead of the people that were here before the Bible and all of its sequels. 1.00

00:14:04.000 I speak to the detached and unrealistic that were born normal but turned socially autistic. 0.65

00:14:10.000 We resisted Homeland Security's mission because I know what they really envisioned.

00:14:14.000 I am the eye in the sky Looking at you I can read your mind I am the maker of rules Dealing with fools I can cheat your mind I am the eye in the sky Looking at you I can read your mind

00:14:43.000 I am the maker of rules First of all, how badass is that lyric? 1.00

00:14:50.000 I am the eye in the sky looking at you.

00:14:52.000 I can read your mind. 1.00

00:14:54.000 I am the maker of rules dealing with fools. 1.00

00:14:57.000 I can cheat you blind. 0.96

00:14:58.000 Have you done an extended version of that song?

00:15:00.000 Because that song's like crack.

00:15:02.000 I could hear that for two more times.

00:15:05.000 Big shout out to my brother Salpaw, who's responsible for producing that.

00:15:08.000 It's off the CD I just gave you, The Martyr.

00:15:11.000 It's free.

00:15:14.000 So many other things in this world.

00:15:16.000 Some people think that nothing's free, but that actually is free. 0.99

00:15:18.000 You can go to ViperRecords.com and you don't have to fill out a stupid survey. 0.97

00:15:23.000 You don't have to sit through a 15-second Vivo commercial. 0.93

00:15:27.000 You press one button and then nine minutes later you have a 16-track album absolutely free by Mortal Technique featuring a lot of hip-hop underground greats and legends.

00:15:37.000 We got Styles P from the Locks, Vinnie Pez, Poison Pen, Diabolic, Swayne Sever, Kier.

00:15:45.000 I mean, I could just go on Dead Prayers.

00:15:48.000 And you decided to release it free?

00:15:50.000 Absolutely for free.

00:15:51.000 My brother's Killer Mike, Chuck D, Brother Ali is on here.

00:15:57.000 Joel Ortiz, Pumpkinhead.

00:15:59.000 Cornel West is on here.

00:16:00.000 Just so many.

00:16:02.000 You got Cornel West on your CD? Yeah, he's doing an outro for me.

00:16:06.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:16:07.000 That's awesome. 0.99

00:16:08.000 He's on the movie now.

00:16:09.000 That's pretty strong, dude.

00:16:10.000 Wait a minute.

00:16:11.000 You're a rapper.

00:16:11.000 You get Cornel West on your CD. Holy shit.

00:16:15.000 He's the homie, you know what I mean? 1.00

00:16:16.000 That's pretty impressive, man.

00:16:18.000 I appreciate that.

00:16:19.000 Thank you.

00:16:19.000 That's awesome.

00:16:20.000 Yeah, that's badass.

00:16:21.000 So the name of it again, one more time for people who are listening.

00:16:23.000 The Martyr.

00:16:24.000 The Martyr.

00:16:25.000 And it's available at?

00:16:26.000 ViperRecords.com.

00:16:27.000 V-I-P-E-R Records.com.

00:16:30.000 What made you decide to put it out for free?

00:16:32.000 Well, I mean, it was at a time when I saw that people were struggling financially, economically, and I thought to myself, listen, what's more revolutionary as opposed to being an artist that just has stuff ghostwritten for him and then gives it out to people and gets angry when they download your terrible music?

00:16:49.000 You know, what's more revolutionary than taking hardcore hip-hop from the streets and then music with a message, combining them, giving them to the people absolutely for free.

00:16:57.000 100%.

00:16:57.000 Plus, they've been waiting so long on this other album I have called The Middle Passage that if I didn't give them something, I would have probably got killed.

00:17:04.000 It is really, I mean, if you really think about it, it is the best thing.

00:17:08.000 I mean, that's what we always feel about this podcast.

00:17:11.000 That, you know, I would never want to charge for it.

00:17:13.000 Like, part of the cool thing about it is that it's free.

00:17:16.000 Right.

00:17:16.000 I like doing it for free.

00:17:18.000 I like that you don't have to pay shit, you know? 0.98

00:17:20.000 And it's not just that. 0.98

00:17:21.000 It's just like, look, if you really support what I say and you like the music, then come to a show.

00:17:25.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:25.000 The same way people listen to the podcast and be like, yo, if you like what we're doing here for free, come see the show.

00:17:30.000 We're going to be live here.

00:17:31.000 We're going to be there.

00:17:32.000 Blah, zay, blah. 0.99

00:17:33.000 Right.

00:17:33.000 And that's what happens for the most part at my shows.

00:17:36.000 It's mostly podcast fans these days.

00:17:39.000 But it's the idea that you decided to just produce a whole CD and put it out like that.

00:17:45.000 I agree that that seems to be the right thing to do.

00:17:51.000 A lot of people are doing it now.

00:17:53.000 You're giving it to them for free. 0.99

00:17:56.000 When you give people shit for free, you develop the right kind of relationship. 0.99

00:18:01.000 You develop a giving relationship. 1.00

00:18:03.000 You're giving and you create this mutually beneficial relationship with the people that enjoy your shit. 0.99

00:18:10.000 They actually enjoy the fact that That a lot of people find out about you. 0.99

00:18:16.000 They enjoy the fact that the music is good.

00:18:18.000 They get to be a part of it all.

00:18:22.000 Definitely.

00:18:23.000 I didn't know the impact of what I did up until like a year or two into it.

00:18:31.000 I really started to get a grasp of it.

00:18:33.000 Slowly accepted the responsibility.

00:18:35.000 And I think there's a big difference in between being an independent artist and being in charge of everything that you have to do in order to be successful and then having, you know, a label babysit you through a 360 deal or something like that.

00:18:46.000 Are you completely independent?

00:18:47.000 Is that how it works?

00:18:48.000 I press up my own units and I have a distribution deal, which means that that's about as independent as we can possibly be without me, you know.

00:18:55.000 I'm completely ignorant about the music business.

00:18:57.000 I don't know nothing about it.

00:18:59.000 So...

00:18:59.000 Explain to me, is it hard to get to the point where you're at, to be completely independent and have people know about you?

00:19:06.000 What sort of distribution channels did you have to go through in order to remain independent?

00:19:11.000 Well, in the very beginning, I had to find individuals that already had a distribution deal, because at that point, I was just one artist.

00:19:20.000 They weren't in the habit of saying, alright, we're just going to sign an artist who doesn't have a roster, doesn't have a label.

00:19:25.000 So I found a friend of the family that had a very small label called Viper Records.

00:19:30.000 And I was like, yo, let's help build something here.

00:19:32.000 And eventually it led to a few distribution deals.

00:19:36.000 And now I'm at one where I feel...

00:19:38.000 I'm in the right place.

00:19:39.000 I have the right people on my side.

00:19:41.000 It's a much larger and more expansive one than I traditionally had before.

00:19:45.000 But just so people understand out there that may not know, a record deal is essentially a loan with horrible interest rates.

00:19:52.000 Because even after a loan, what happens when you get a bad loan and you end up paying it all off?

00:19:57.000 You get to keep the property.

00:19:59.000 But in this case, you don't keep your intellectual property.

00:20:01.000 Your masters and your publishing are owned by somebody else.

00:20:04.000 And if you read the fine contract, then the legalese in perpetuity.

00:20:07.000 And in some cases, that just doesn't make sense to me.

00:20:10.000 I think that whole business is completely falling apart, right?

00:20:13.000 I mean, the record business, it's gone down to a personal appearance business.

00:20:18.000 It's become that more, right?

00:20:20.000 To some extent, I think that's why they implemented the 360 deal, so they felt like they could eat off the shows as opposed to the dwindling record sales.

00:20:28.000 When you say 360 deals, what does that mean?

00:20:29.000 The 360 deal means that the label now collects on everything.

00:20:33.000 The ancillary rights, you know, if your music is in a movie...

00:20:36.000 If you do a show, they're getting half of the show.

00:20:39.000 If you do a show?

00:20:40.000 Yeah.

00:20:41.000 What if you do a reality show, they get the money?

00:20:43.000 Whatever you do, dude.

00:20:45.000 If you were in a record company label...

00:20:47.000 Whatever you do.

00:20:48.000 Really?

00:20:48.000 So if you had the Immortal Techniques show and people traveled around with you...

00:20:52.000 And I was signed to a 360 deal before that.

00:20:54.000 They would take a piece of that.

00:20:55.000 Yeah.

00:20:56.000 What are they offering, though?

00:20:58.000 That's what it depends on what status you have.

00:21:00.000 If you're someone who's built up an independent brand.

00:21:02.000 See, I'll give you an example.

00:21:03.000 Well, how did you do it?

00:21:04.000 If I have a good idea, right?

00:21:06.000 And I say to you, Joe, as a company, as a gigantic multinational conglomerate, I got this company about people who get on the internet and meet other people that are similar and they get to post their pictures.

00:21:19.000 You're looking at me like, oh yeah, alright, well, how much is it going to sell?

00:21:21.000 I'm giving you numbers.

00:21:23.000 But let's say I set up something like MySpace, which is obviously now not in its former glory.

00:21:29.000 But if I say, alright, well, I have this company, MySpace, and it has, I don't know, 20 million people on it signed up.

00:21:36.000 Look at the advertising potential that we have here.

00:21:39.000 Then I can sucker somebody like Rupert Murdoch into buying it for $500 million.

00:21:43.000 And I think it's just the same thing in music.

00:21:45.000 If you've already built up an independent fan base, if you have something that's completely your own, then you're coming to them with everything.

00:21:51.000 And you're saying, listen, I don't need to give you more than just this.

00:21:55.000 I will give you the small percentage, which is usually between 15% and 25%, for just distributing the product, making sure it's in all the stores.

00:22:05.000 But isn't almost everything distributed through electronic media now?

00:22:11.000 How many actual CDs move?

00:22:14.000 Probably about half.

00:22:15.000 Maybe I've sold about a quarter million records of the four albums that I've had out.

00:22:19.000 And I've moved about half of the product, the record, in physical, not in digital.

00:22:28.000 So it's still about half and half.

00:22:29.000 We're talking about 40-60% of the revenue in certain places. 0.99

00:22:33.000 Do you buy CDs these days or do you download shit now? 0.99

00:22:36.000 Occasionally. 0.97

00:22:37.000 If I support an artist, if I like somebody and I think they're dope and they're a friend of mine, I go to the record store.

00:22:42.000 I'll buy one or two of them.

00:22:43.000 Yeah, I never see a record store. 0.99

00:22:45.000 When the fuck are you going to the record store? 0.99

00:22:46.000 I buy all my CDs at Starbucks like I was saying. 0.99

00:22:49.000 I do that sometimes.

00:22:51.000 You know what?

00:22:52.000 I think you're right.

00:22:52.000 I think the last CD I bought was at Starbucks.

00:22:54.000 I do iTunes too.

00:22:55.000 You know what I mean?

00:22:56.000 Yeah, I do iTunes.

00:22:57.000 Almost all of my stuff is iTunes now.

00:23:00.000 I wonder how much sound you're losing.

00:23:03.000 How much sound are you losing?

00:23:07.000 They're technically not wave files.

00:23:09.000 They're, I think, 720. It's not perfect, but it's not bad.

00:23:16.000 It's good sound quality.

00:23:17.000 You have to have a certain standard to put it on there, I believe.

00:23:19.000 Because if you talk to like old-time hippie dudes, they always tell you that like vinyl record was the best.

00:23:24.000 Like that was the best quality sound.

00:23:27.000 You know, we lost a little bit going from that to digital.

00:23:30.000 We lost something...

00:23:31.000 Laserdisc.

00:23:32.000 We lost it when we went to DVDs.

00:23:34.000 Laserdiscs are better quality than DVDs.

00:23:36.000 Are they really?

00:23:36.000 Yeah, and it's like...

00:23:38.000 Better than Blu-ray?

00:23:39.000 No, I don't think they're better than Blu-ray at all, but better than DVD. It's probably just too expensive.

00:23:44.000 Well, Blu-ray tells Laserdisc to suck it. 0.99

00:23:47.000 How about that? 0.99

00:23:49.000 Blu-rays.

00:23:49.000 I watched a regular movie the other day, and I couldn't believe how bad it looked.

00:23:53.000 I watched The Ghost in the Darkness.

00:23:55.000 Do you remember that?

00:23:56.000 It was with Val Kilmer and Michael Douglas.

00:23:58.000 Michael Douglas and Val Kilmer.

00:23:59.000 Lion hunting. 1.00

00:24:00.000 Val Kilmer was a handsome motherfucker, man. 1.00

00:24:03.000 He was handsome and chiseled and shit. 1.00

00:24:06.000 One of those white people conquer Africa movies, right? 1.00

00:24:09.000 Nobody in Africa can kill a lion, so they got to bring in two white people... 1.00

00:24:12.000 From England and America to go kill a lion. 0.99

00:24:15.000 Can you kill a lion? 1.00

00:24:16.000 Get the guy out of here, yo. 1.00

00:24:17.000 Look, just put a bloody piece of steak right there and just wait there and bang. 0.96

00:24:22.000 It wasn't a lion, dude.

00:24:24.000 It was the ghost in the darkness.

00:24:25.000 It was the ghost in the darkness.

00:24:26.000 They were intelligent lions.

00:24:28.000 They were setting traps for them.

00:24:32.000 It becomes kind of weird, but there have been animals like that, that have just strictly decided to eat people.

00:24:40.000 There was a cat, a tiger in India, that's been recently going around on Twitter, the Wikipedia about it.

00:24:46.000 This cat in India killed like 400 and something people before they finally killed it.

00:24:51.000 Maybe he's just trying to get even, man.

00:24:52.000 No, apparently they just develop a taste for flesh.

00:24:54.000 It's just not normal for them.

00:24:56.000 Because we're not normally on their food chain.

00:24:59.000 But once they find out about us...

00:25:01.000 I think we made ourselves not on their food chain.

00:25:03.000 We're on their food chain, homie.

00:25:04.000 If you and me go into the jungle in a loincloth, we're good lunch.

00:25:09.000 What I mean by we're not on their food chain is that it's not a regular part of their diet.

00:25:14.000 So they don't recognize us as food necessarily, but... 0.86

00:25:17.000 Sushi's not a regular part of my diet, but I'll eat the shit out of that if I'm hungry.

00:25:21.000 You know what I mean? 0.61

00:25:21.000 So that's probably how they see us. 0.61

00:25:22.000 Well, tigers, once they find out that they can kill people, they become a real fucking problem. 0.99

00:25:27.000 They just go exclusively for people. 0.99

00:25:30.000 Yeah, there's a story about this boat in India.

00:25:33.000 Well, there's an area in India called the Sundarbans, where over the last 100 years, tigers have killed close to...

00:25:40.000 I think it was 300,000 people.

00:25:43.000 Something insane.

00:25:44.000 Oh, yeah.

00:25:45.000 Insane number.

00:25:46.000 Insane number over the last 100 years. 0.99

00:25:48.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.97

00:25:50.000 There's an area where the water... 0.99

00:25:52.000 Yeah, there's two problems with the area.

00:25:54.000 One, the brackish water... 0.85

00:25:56.000 Apparently the tigers drink it and it makes them fucking crazy because it's water that's like salty. 0.78

00:26:02.000 They really shouldn't be drinking and it makes them really incredibly irritated and it makes them super hyper aggressive. 0.98

00:26:07.000 And they've been known to kill people like for sport.

00:26:11.000 Like there's this one tiger killed these guys on a boat, swam out to the boat, killed a guy, dragged him to the shore, dropped off his body, jumped back in the water and he did it three times.

00:26:23.000 They couldn't get away from him.

00:26:24.000 Tigers can swim fast, man.

00:26:26.000 He did it for fun.

00:26:27.000 He did it for fun until he got tired of it.

00:26:29.000 But you know, cats are really like some of the most ruthless killers in the world.

00:26:33.000 They're so ruthless. 1.00

00:26:34.000 Not only will they kill something, but they'll fuck with it for hours before they kill it. 1.00

00:26:38.000 Like, oh yeah, let me just practice on this living thing in front of my kids and slice its face open. 1.00

00:26:43.000 This is how you rip the hamstring on the animal when you're chasing it.

00:26:47.000 They give lessons of murder.

00:26:49.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:26:50.000 Yeah, they're creepy cunts. 1.00

00:26:51.000 That's a hell of a parent right there. 1.00

00:26:52.000 Like, look, go kill them right now. 0.99

00:26:54.000 Well, what people don't understand is the reason why human beings have this symbiotic relationship with cats is because of rodents. 0.99

00:27:01.000 We had the cats around because the cats killed the mice and the rats.

00:27:05.000 And the cats were cool.

00:27:06.000 The cats would hang out with you.

00:27:07.000 And they would go jack the mice and the rats. 1.00

00:27:08.000 And they would keep the rats and the mice out of your fucking food. 0.99

00:27:11.000 I mean, that was where it all... 1.00

00:27:15.000 They're like killers, man. 0.97

00:27:17.000 You're a little house cat. 0.92

00:27:18.000 Everybody's a little house cat. 1.00

00:27:19.000 You put a bird in front of it, it'll jump on that shit and murder it right in front of it. 0.99

00:27:22.000 When we lived in South America, I remember my father reminds me, he said, listen, they had cats out there the way we have mice here. 0.99

00:27:30.000 They would sneak into your kitchen. 0.89

00:27:36.000 They would sneak into your food supply. 0.99

00:27:38.000 And Grandmama did not give a shit. 1.00

00:27:40.000 She would snap its neck like a breadstick if it got nasty and tried to Well, feral cats are very different than regular cats. 0.99

00:27:48.000 Street cats.

00:27:48.000 A lot of street dogs out there, too.

00:27:51.000 Yeah.

00:27:51.000 Those are dangerous animals.

00:27:53.000 They can get really dangerous.

00:27:54.000 And also, they carry a lot of diseases.

00:27:56.000 Diseases, too, yeah.

00:27:57.000 Especially that toxoplasma.

00:28:01.000 There's a disease that literally changes men's behavior, and you get it from cats. 1.00

00:28:06.000 It's the nuttiest fucking disease ever. 1.00

00:28:09.000 Toxoplasma. 1.00

00:28:10.000 Toxoplasmosis.

00:28:11.000 I think it's called Toxoplasmosis Gandhi is the actual scientific name.

00:28:15.000 I might be wrong. 0.99

00:28:15.000 But it comes from cat shit. 0.99

00:28:18.000 And the way it happens is these rats get infected. 1.00

00:28:21.000 So that's why they say crazy is cat shit, huh? 1.00

00:28:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:28:24.000 Cat shit crazy. 1.00

00:28:25.000 Yeah, for real. 1.00

00:28:28.000 Toxoplasma.

00:28:29.000 Toxoplasma.

00:28:31.000 Toxoplasmosis.

00:28:32.000 I think that's what it's called.

00:28:33.000 And it can't affect women. 0.99

00:28:34.000 It only affects men.

00:28:35.000 No, no.

00:28:36.000 It affects women as well. 0.99

00:28:37.000 Yeah, they're not exactly sure, but it's really dangerous, especially for women if they're pregnant. 0.98

00:28:42.000 When women are pregnant, that's why they tell them never fuck with cat litter, don't touch a litter box, because if they get it and they get infected, it can seriously fuck up with the development of the child while it's in the woman's womb. 0.99

00:28:57.000 Yeah, it's a brain parasite. 1.00

00:28:59.000 You're born like half cat, half... 0.92

00:29:00.000 No, no, no, it's not that.

00:29:02.000 It's just, look, it's not...

00:29:04.000 Whatever this thing is, it's in a lot of people, and you can live with it.

00:29:08.000 It's a bacteria.

00:29:09.000 But it altered...

00:29:10.000 It's a parasite, essentially. 0.98

00:29:14.000 It's like a brain worm. 0.99

00:29:17.000 Literally.

00:29:18.000 Wow.

00:29:18.000 Yeah.

00:29:19.000 And what it does is it fucks with the rats and it rewires the rats' immune or sexual reward system and has the rat sexually attracted to the smell of cat piss. 0.99

00:29:31.000 Completely changes the rats' drive and hijacks his whole system. 1.00

00:29:37.000 And makes his dick hard for cat piss. 1.00

00:29:39.000 Literally, his dick swells. 1.00

00:29:41.000 Okay? 1.00

00:29:42.000 So the rat is horny. 1.00

00:29:44.000 I mean, it's the most ruthless shit nature has ever invented. 1.00

00:29:48.000 Right? 1.00

00:29:48.000 So the rat is all horny. 1.00

00:29:50.000 He goes over to the cat. 1.00

00:29:51.000 The cat's like, bitch! 1.00

00:29:52.000 The cat jacks the rat. 1.00

00:29:53.000 Then the cat hangs around with people.

00:29:55.000 And then people get it from the cat.

00:29:57.000 And it's been shown to make people extra aggressive.

00:30:00.000 It's been shown to make them act more impulsively. 1.00

00:30:05.000 Some bath salt type shit. 0.99

00:30:06.000 I don't think it's that bad, but there's a disproportionate amount of motorcycle victims that test positive for toxoplasma. 0.99

00:30:14.000 And they think it also can delay reaction time on some people too.

00:30:19.000 But there's also been a direct correlation between successful soccer teams and areas of infestation for toxoplasma.

00:30:27.000 And they think it might actually make men produce more testosterone.

00:30:31.000 So it's possible that it can trick your body into acting more aggressively, being more sexual, producing more testosterone, making you more impulsive.

00:30:39.000 And here's where it gets really crazy.

00:30:42.000 In England, in Europe, 80% of France is infested with toxoplasma.

00:30:48.000 80% of the French people, people from France.

00:30:51.000 Yeah, 80%.

00:30:52.000 You think so?

00:30:52.000 No, I know so.

00:30:54.000 This is like scientific research.

00:30:55.000 They said 80% of the dudes are people in general.

00:30:58.000 People, the people.

00:30:58.000 People in general.

00:30:59.000 Yeah.

00:30:59.000 Well, they are very violent people, Joe.

00:31:01.000 I mean, you know what I think is unfair is when I heard the administration, the Republican administration under Bush, the way they lambasted and hammered the French simply because they didn't want to go to Iraq.

00:31:14.000 And if you think about it, Remember when we had freedom fries? 0.98

00:31:19.000 That was such a fucking joke, dude. 0.99

00:31:21.000 Freedom fries. 1.00

00:31:22.000 Whatever cocksucker came up with that idea. 1.00

00:31:24.000 You know, I hope you die in a car fire. 1.00

00:31:26.000 It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my fucking life. 1.00

00:31:28.000 Because freedom fries should be what you're eating, fucko. 1.00

00:31:32.000 Because without France, there would be no United States of America. 0.99

00:31:34.000 On several occasions.

00:31:36.000 France just didn't want to get bullied into something crazy. 0.98

00:31:39.000 They're smart. 1.00

00:31:40.000 They became like pussies to us. 1.00

00:31:41.000 They became like cowards. 1.00

00:31:43.000 You know what it is? 0.96

00:31:44.000 The Middle East was divided a long time ago through a treaty called Sykes-Picot, where the European nations decided that Turkey or the Ottoman Empire was the sick man of Europe, so they cut it up.

00:31:55.000 Everyone got their little slice.

00:31:56.000 England got what's now Iraq and Egypt. 0.96

00:32:00.000 France got parts of North Africa, Syria, and Lebanon.

00:32:06.000 So really, it's not that I'm scared to fight.

00:32:08.000 No, that's just not my slice, homie. 0.87

00:32:11.000 You take care of your own problems there.

00:32:12.000 If there's an issue over here where I'm getting money and I have the remnants of the Caract de Chevalier and all this legacy of intervention, because realistically, you look at the Crusades, they were run by Normans, by Frenchmen, by people who were maybe five, six generations away from a man called Roland Viking who invaded and then six generations away from a man called Roland Viking who invaded and then became So you're talking about an individual or a group of people who have been warring and killing from the very start.

00:32:39.000 I mean, French people, they get away with it because you think of them in wine and poems. 1.00

00:32:44.000 But look at history.

00:32:45.000 And I'm not denigrating the French. 1.00

00:32:47.000 I'm saying y'all are wild motherfuckers. 1.00

00:32:48.000 Y'all are some very, very violent people. 1.00

00:32:51.000 You've been involved in every sort of chaos and melee since Rome fell.

00:32:55.000 But they've evolved.

00:32:56.000 But the modern ones have evolved.

00:32:58.000 And they're like, we're not interested in that anymore. 1.00

00:32:59.000 We'd rather make really good wine than fuck. 0.99

00:33:01.000 I think they got a lot of good points. 0.99

00:33:04.000 I can't be mad at that.

00:33:04.000 The modern French are very cool.

00:33:06.000 They have it down.

00:33:07.000 They're doing the right thing.

00:33:08.000 They're not fucking with the world. 0.96

00:33:10.000 The modern French, they don't want to be involved in it. 1.00

00:33:13.000 They ban high fructose corn syrup and all that.

00:33:15.000 Good for them.

00:33:15.000 When I go out to Europe, it's different.

00:33:17.000 Soda tastes different.

00:33:18.000 Food doesn't make you feel as heavy and fat.

00:33:22.000 And you walk out of there like...

00:33:24.000 Yeah, we're not in any way saying there's anything wrong with being French.

00:33:26.000 I've met a lot of really cool French people.

00:33:28.000 I just find it fascinating when people come from really ancient cultures. 0.79

00:33:32.000 Because our culture is so goddamn new.

00:33:34.000 And if you look at the human race and look at the areas where it's been established and culture's been established for the longest... 0.96

00:33:41.000 They're really the most backward areas. 1.00

00:33:43.000 It's like Iraq. 0.99

00:33:44.000 Iraq is Sumer. 0.92

00:33:45.000 That's like one of the oldest known civilizations.

00:33:48.000 Mesopotamian Sumerian.

00:33:48.000 Yeah, that's the cradle of civilization.

00:33:50.000 But even here, we had indigenous people living here thousands of years before.

00:33:55.000 Yeah, oh sure.

00:33:56.000 Well, you know, what's really fascinating, what a lot of people don't know, is most of North America was covered in a mile-high sheet of ice up until about 10,000 years ago.

00:34:04.000 So when everybody was just balling it up in Europe and having a great time and Partying all throughout the world.

00:34:09.000 We were covered in ice.

00:34:11.000 Except for Central America, South America, where you find lots and lots of different peoples.

00:34:18.000 Mostly they focus on Aztec, Maya, Inca, but there are so many other individuals.

00:34:23.000 Like when I came back to Latin America, the Olmecs, you look at their shamans, their tradition of religion, their explanation of Of human society, their use of psychotropic drugs. 1.00

00:34:37.000 Yes, they had a completely independent, advanced civilization.

00:34:41.000 And that's what people aren't aware of.

00:34:42.000 When you go back many, many thousands of years, what gets really interesting is...

00:34:46.000 It's really hard to reach other people.

00:34:48.000 So that was when people were developing very uniquely on their own.

00:34:53.000 You know, cultures develop very uniquely like in their own little place.

00:34:59.000 They weren't having like the constant intervention that we have from all over the world. 0.83

00:35:04.000 So if you look at like What the advanced civilization of thousands of years ago in South America, rather, and you look at the Mayan civilization, like, what a fucking fascinating path those guys went down. 0.99

00:35:16.000 I mean, what an amazing path these guys went down thousands and thousands of years ago because no one was fucking with them. 0.94

00:35:23.000 Because this is what they came up with. 0.99

00:35:26.000 What they came up with was incredible fucking stone structures that mirror the cosmos, and they were doing shit that nobody was thinking about in Europe. 0.99

00:35:35.000 Nobody was thinking about the same time. 1.00

00:35:37.000 Nobody was thinking about any of the fucking shit those guys were doing. 0.99

00:35:40.000 You know what my favorite part is? 0.99

00:35:41.000 When I hear people say, oh, you know, they had so many scientific advancements, the Aztecs, Maya, and Inca, like the...

00:35:48.000 Aliens must have helped you to do it.

00:35:51.000 On one level, I think that's pretty interesting.

00:35:54.000 To even acknowledge for someone to say that there's extraterrestrial life.

00:35:59.000 But at the same time, my question is this.

00:36:01.000 Those developments happened over the course of hundreds of years, of thousands of years. 0.91

00:36:05.000 We're looking at American society now that went from being in a fucking horse and buggy 150 years ago to now being on the moon and everybody's got a cell phone the size of a pack of Tic Tacs. 0.59

00:36:18.000 Listen, if the aliens helped anybody, they helped people here in America. 0.95

00:36:23.000 They didn't help us.

00:36:24.000 You know what I mean?

00:36:25.000 We developed it over hundreds and I say thousands of years of work and science or whatnot.

00:36:31.000 Or then they've been helping everybody the whole time.

00:36:34.000 I think it's silly to assume that the aliens helped us, but I don't rule out the possibility.

00:36:41.000 I don't. 0.99

00:36:42.000 Just because I think that the human race is so ridiculous. 0.99

00:36:46.000 The whole lot of us, we're so strange and bizarre. 0.99

00:36:52.000 Just the fact that we even exist.

00:36:54.000 The talking monkey.

00:36:55.000 The fact that we can send satellites into space. 0.99

00:36:58.000 Just the fact that we can do the nutty shit that we can do. 0.99

00:37:01.000 I would never rule out that somewhere along the line we got fucked with. 1.00

00:37:05.000 Someone gave us some shit or fucked with us a little bit or did some shit with some monkeys and made people. 1.00

00:37:11.000 I'm not ruling that out, man. 1.00

00:37:13.000 I do not rule that out.

00:37:14.000 I would say aliens before Bigfoot.

00:37:17.000 If you're Bigfoot, I'm going squatching. 0.99

00:37:19.000 You shut your mouth. 1.00

00:37:20.000 I told you. 1.00

00:37:21.000 This fucking whole area is very squatchy. 0.99

00:37:24.000 There's a lot of trees across the street I noticed. 1.00

00:37:26.000 That's a very squatchy area.

00:37:27.000 There's some trees right down the block, man.

00:37:29.000 I like them trees.

00:37:30.000 I'm going Bigfoot.

00:37:31.000 I'm not mad at those trees.

00:37:32.000 Those are Cali trees.

00:37:32.000 Don't be hating.

00:37:33.000 You want to come with me?

00:37:34.000 No.

00:37:34.000 Come on, man.

00:37:35.000 We'll go camping.

00:37:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:37:36.000 Let's go play in the woods and get raped by some guy. 1.00

00:37:39.000 Dude, we're going to go find Sasquatch. 0.99

00:37:40.000 What if we really found one?

00:37:42.000 Came back, we changed the podcast.

00:37:43.000 You won't.

00:37:43.000 Guess what?

00:37:44.000 You won't.

00:37:44.000 How do you know that there's not a few thousand of them?

00:37:49.000 There's 40,000 just in California.

00:37:52.000 You know when we're going to know, man?

00:37:53.000 When these 30,000 proposed drones are in the sky in the next couple of years.

00:37:58.000 We would already know from Google Maps or Google Earth.

00:38:01.000 They would see a Bigfoot on Google Maps.

00:38:02.000 If there's 4,000 or whatever.

00:38:05.000 You can't get Google Maps.

00:38:07.000 Or maybe they're in a cave on the ground.

00:38:09.000 They don't have like a detailed picture of every square foot of the Pacific Northwest rainforest.

00:38:14.000 I would believe in Loch Ness before I believed in Bigfoot.

00:38:18.000 I think Loch Ness is probably just like an eel. 1.00

00:38:20.000 Yeah, it's just a fucking... 1.00

00:38:21.000 A retarded dolphin. 1.00

00:38:23.000 They have found a relic species all over the world.

00:38:27.000 They found something called a koalacanth in South Africa.

00:38:31.000 They thought that was dead for 60 million years.

00:38:34.000 So I can't even imagine what's at the bottom of the ocean.

00:38:37.000 I don't even want to know. 0.98

00:38:38.000 Part of me wants to know, but the other half of me is like, yo, listen, you don't want to wake that shit up. 0.99

00:38:43.000 The Kraken or whatever the fuck is down there. 0.98

00:38:45.000 Well, you know, they found evidence that there was something like a kraken, a giant octopus type creature. 0.95

00:38:51.000 Because the problem with, what are they called?

00:38:53.000 Encephalopods?

00:38:54.000 Is that what they're called?

00:38:55.000 Mollus?

00:38:56.000 They're related to mollus.

00:38:57.000 But they don't have anything to their body.

00:39:00.000 They're jelly.

00:39:01.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:39:02.000 I mean, there's no bones there except for their teeth.

00:39:04.000 So when they die, that's it.

00:39:06.000 Their body just rots.

00:39:08.000 An octopus is just one piece of undulating flesh.

00:39:12.000 Completely different than our idea of a bone structure and a skeletal frame. 1.00

00:39:18.000 They don't have any of that shit. 0.98

00:39:22.000 Apparently, they found fossils of what they think are enormous suction cups, and several of them in a row. 0.99

00:39:29.000 And they're pretty sure that what that is, is that's what's left of an enormous octopus that used to live in the ocean.

00:39:36.000 So the idea of the kraken, it might have been a real thing.

00:39:39.000 It might have been an enormous octopus.

00:39:41.000 Eat or be eaten.

00:39:42.000 Back in those times, listen, when you ran into something, there was no such thing as a handshake.

00:39:48.000 But can you imagine if there really was an octopus that took out a boat? 0.95

00:39:52.000 Imagine if they actually got that big, like boat size, like those fucking Kraken pictures. 0.85

00:39:59.000 I mean, they had a Megalodon, which is basically, we're talking about a great white shark that's, you know, 65 feet long. 1.00

00:40:06.000 That shit's crazy. 1.00

00:40:08.000 Jesus fucking Christ. 1.00

00:40:09.000 And their babies were like the size of great white sharks now. 1.00

00:40:12.000 That would be a baby megalodon, a 30-foot megalodon.

00:40:16.000 My friend Bud has a tooth in his office, a megalodon tooth. 0.99

00:40:19.000 And you pick it up and you just go, what the fuck, man? 0.99

00:40:22.000 It's a fossil. 0.99

00:40:23.000 So what a fossil is, is the actual bone gets replaced with minerals in time.

00:40:28.000 So it's really like a piece of stone.

00:40:30.000 It's like a black piece of stone.

00:40:33.000 I had to explain that to him.

00:40:34.000 Dudes think that this is just...

00:40:35.000 No, it's a bone.

00:40:36.000 That's the actual tooth.

00:40:37.000 No, the tooth doesn't exist anymore.

00:40:38.000 This is a fossil of the tooth.

00:40:41.000 I had to explain it to him.

00:40:42.000 He's telling me, no, it's a real tooth.

00:40:43.000 I got paid for it.

00:40:44.000 I got a certificate.

00:40:46.000 I'm telling you.

00:40:48.000 That's not exactly what a fossil is.

00:40:50.000 But anyway, it's so big.

00:40:52.000 It's like a giant blade.

00:40:54.000 Size of your hand. 1.00

00:40:56.000 Yeah, it's fucking huge. 1.00

00:40:57.000 And you're looking at it like, that was in a, you just picture that in a mouth. 1.00

00:41:01.000 And then picture how big that fucking mouth is. 1.00

00:41:03.000 And sharks went through teeth like Carson went through wives. 1.00

00:41:07.000 I mean, boom, boom, boom.

00:41:09.000 Next one fell out, boom.

00:41:10.000 What a crazy animal the world has invented.

00:41:13.000 I mean, just toxoplasma and sharks. 1.00

00:41:16.000 The fact that those two motherfuckers exist. 1.00

00:41:18.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:41:20.000 Cat parasite that makes you think.

00:41:22.000 What about a shark with toxoplasma?

00:41:24.000 What about an octopus that didn't have tentacles, but they had sharks instead of tentacles?

00:41:30.000 Sharks with the end? 0.85

00:41:31.000 Yeah, like the legs would be just sharks.

00:41:33.000 Oh my god.

00:41:34.000 Why not?

00:41:35.000 With toxoplasma. 0.99

00:41:36.000 Yeah, he's ridiculous. 1.00

00:41:37.000 He's ridiculous. 1.00

00:41:40.000 He'll do that to you. 1.00

00:41:42.000 But dude, imagine.

00:41:44.000 That would be crazy.

00:41:45.000 With shark heads at the end of it. 1.00

00:41:47.000 There's so much nutty shit. 1.00

00:41:49.000 This is part of somebody's bad trip out there. 1.00

00:41:51.000 Someone's about to hit the Joe Rogan's.

00:41:52.000 You stole that idea from me!

00:41:54.000 You know what's really crazy is that these people in South Africa have sharks, the great whites, on some sort of endangered list, so you're not supposed to be killing them. 0.99

00:42:02.000 I mean, I read that, that they're thinking about lifting the ban because another one killed the fucking surfer recently. 0.96

00:42:06.000 Like, apparently they're on some sort of endangered list. 0.98

00:42:09.000 One surfer died as opposed to, like, the 100,000 or, like, 12 million sharks that we kill every year or something. 1.00

00:42:15.000 Well, that's a pretty good record, but still, I say all sharks can suck my dick, and we should kill every one of them. 1.00

00:42:21.000 I'm on team people, and I like surfing. 1.00

00:42:24.000 And if there's anything out there that will cut me in half when I'm surfing, no.

00:42:28.000 Not really interested in that thing sticking around.

00:42:30.000 I say we send in torpedoes. 1.00

00:42:33.000 On submarines and just jack every fucking shark we find. 1.00

00:42:36.000 You're wild. 1.00

00:42:37.000 If we did that, then all the other species that they're supposed to eat would be right there. 0.99

00:42:41.000 Exactly.

00:42:41.000 And then we'd have more fish.

00:42:44.000 See what I'm saying, dog?

00:42:45.000 But we'd have less of other stuff, too.

00:42:48.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:42:48.000 You can't completely fuck with the... 0.99

00:42:49.000 We would probably give rise to some new, intelligent dolphin that knows how to make a gun. 1.00

00:42:56.000 You know what I mean? 0.93

00:42:57.000 If you fuck the balance of power up in the ocean like that, who knows what the result is going to be. 0.99

00:43:02.000 Jesus Christ. 0.99

00:43:02.000 The fact that we do that, though, is a part of nature. 0.99

00:43:05.000 I mean, it is our own human curiosity that leads us to fuck with things and remove things from the food chain and use our infinite wisdom to change the topography of the earth.

00:43:14.000 But that is also a part of nature, because we are all nature, you know?

00:43:18.000 Even if people say that, oh, plastic is unnatural, sort of, but no, it's natural. 0.99

00:43:22.000 It's what the shitty humans make. 0.98

00:43:24.000 This brings up an interesting question. 0.99

00:43:25.000 I had a conversation with a friend of mine, Matt.

00:43:27.000 If we evolve ourselves, right?

00:43:30.000 Like if we decide to genetically modify ourselves and people say that's unnatural, isn't that nature?

00:43:36.000 Isn't that us being...

00:43:38.000 It's all natural.

00:43:39.000 We have the ability now to be intelligent enough to map and select certain genes and to say, all right, you know what?

00:43:45.000 I want to be able to take this gene that says that my organs will fail at like 80 or 90 years and I'm going to put a zero on that.

00:43:53.000 Right.

00:43:54.000 So now, instead of being...

00:43:56.000 You know, when I'm 80, I'm gonna look 80 when I'm like 800. Yeah, I think the idea of natural is getting to be silly, and I think we have to look at it as organic and inorganic.

00:44:06.000 Inorganic still being natural, but created by people.

00:44:09.000 That's what it is.

00:44:10.000 Organic being something that occurs without any intervention at all.

00:44:14.000 But it's natural that people intervene.

00:44:16.000 That's what they're curious to do.

00:44:17.000 There's a reason why there's people that are in school that are studying genetic engineering. 1.00

00:44:22.000 I would rather have those people figure their shit out in 30 years and then fuck with my milk and the eggs and the food that I eat. 0.99

00:44:30.000 Oh yeah, look, it's not all good. 1.00

00:44:32.000 Instead of testing it out on the public now and then hiding it because the funny thing is that if you're so proud of the product...

00:44:39.000 Why won't you put your name on it, Monsanto?

00:44:41.000 Well, see, the real issue is not the science.

00:44:44.000 The real issue is the commerce behind the science.

00:44:46.000 Because the science is valid.

00:44:48.000 There's certainly science to improving upon things.

00:44:52.000 And there might be things that cause problems with people that we might be able to solve with science.

00:44:56.000 But the problem is, then you get commerce involved.

00:45:00.000 And commerce looks at all they're trying to do is figure out the best way to extract money from this.

00:45:06.000 And the best way to extract money...

00:45:07.000 Is to patent all their creations and then make a creation that is completely unnatural and force people to buy it.

00:45:16.000 Completely unnatural in that you can't even use the seeds from the plant to grow new plants.

00:45:21.000 Or there are no seeds.

00:45:22.000 Or there are no seeds.

00:45:23.000 Or the seeds that you have, they have a shelf life.

00:45:26.000 They'll expire in a short amount of time.

00:45:29.000 There's a fascinating thing that happens when people get involved in big groups of people that are designed to make money, corporations.

00:45:37.000 And there's a great documentary about it called The Corporation.

00:45:40.000 Oh, yeah.

00:45:40.000 Definitely recommend that.

00:45:41.000 Yeah, where it's essentially show how there's a diffusion of responsibility when there's a large group of people acting towards a goal and that essentially the snowflake doesn't realize it's a part of an avalanche.

00:45:55.000 It just feels like it's a snowflake.

00:45:57.000 You just feel like you're a person doing your job and meanwhile you've got commerce mixed up somehow or another in science and progress.

00:46:07.000 And you've got commerce involved, so it's enforcing its own version of these things before we know the exact results of what could happen. 0.91

00:46:14.000 Long-term ingestion, how's it going to affect the other things in the environment, if the parasites that are naturally preying on weed or whatever the fuck it is that they're making.

00:46:22.000 What happens to them when they're not allowed to breed? 0.96

00:46:26.000 When they're not allowed to eat?

00:46:27.000 When they're not allowed to feast on these plants that they've naturally had to protect people from?

00:46:32.000 What about that?

00:46:34.000 What is the backfiring of that?

00:46:36.000 Is it bark beetles? 0.99

00:46:38.000 What the fuck is it? 0.99

00:46:39.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:46:39.000 I think on many levels the That analysis that you brought up, that analogy can then be used for so many other things. 0.99

00:46:49.000 It's not just about somebody's health now, but now commerce is dictating politics.

00:46:56.000 It becomes the human race.

00:46:59.000 In other words, companies come into existence not to find out what's the best medicine for people, but what's the cheapest way they can produce something that's going to offset symptoms and then keep them coming back for more.

00:47:10.000 There's no money in the cure.

00:47:12.000 There's only money in the temporary solution because if you cure it, then what's the point?

00:47:16.000 And it's pure greed because there's still an incredible amount of money to be made if they were just in the seed business.

00:47:24.000 And if they made seeds and then the farmer could use that plant and grow new seeds or get the seeds from it and grow new plants and it could be a natural thing.

00:47:33.000 You know, you couldn't force people into suicide.

00:47:38.000 Indian farmers are committing suicide as a result of being forced into using genetically modified foods and crops and being forced into an incredible debt they can't repay.

00:47:48.000 There's something like every 30 seconds an Indian farmer commits suicide.

00:47:51.000 That's crazy. 1.00

00:47:52.000 It's fucking crazy. 1.00

00:47:53.000 I mean, they've attributed no bullshit, more than 100,000 suicides in India to being connected to genetically modified crops. 1.00

00:48:02.000 It's fucking nuts. 1.00

00:48:03.000 They get locked into these contracts. 1.00

00:48:05.000 They're not making as much money as they think they should be making.

00:48:08.000 And being the largest democracy in the world, you would think that they would have the ability for people to petition to say this is illegal.

00:48:16.000 But then again, I think the problem with democracy and the problem with having those things is that... 0.92

00:48:21.000 The the commerce that you're talking about is now front and center in terms of everything in terms of Saying I'm gonna sponsor you to be the next candidate or the next president or the next congressman from But you're fucking with life so much when you make something that won't even reproduce You're fucking with life so much.

00:48:41.000 I just don't think you should be allowed to do that I think that's where it gets really tricky when you're fucking with life solely for commerce like your idea of Of what it should and shouldn't do.

00:48:51.000 Like you're not allowing the cycle of life to continue in a natural fashion.

00:48:56.000 You're making like suicide plants.

00:48:59.000 That's a fascinating thing when we let people do that.

00:49:02.000 Because like why would you do that?

00:49:03.000 You'd only do that if you're greedy.

00:49:05.000 You want to keep them coming back for more.

00:49:08.000 It's not about making the plant better or making people eat better or anything.

00:49:13.000 You're going to put them in debt.

00:49:14.000 You're going to put them in a non-natural cycle.

00:49:17.000 None of it can be used.

00:49:21.000 You can't take the seeds and plant and make new plants.

00:49:24.000 Really? 1.00

00:49:24.000 What the fuck are you doing? 1.00

00:49:25.000 But again, that mirrors everything else. 0.99

00:49:27.000 It's like, look, you're getting a car, a car that does what?

00:49:31.000 That puts gas in the air?

00:49:33.000 That pollutes the environment?

00:49:34.000 That makes us required to be in a partnership with some of the most totalitarian states that exist?

00:49:44.000 In the world, practically, that we turn a blind eye to.

00:49:47.000 Now, we'll focus on those that don't give us access to their natural resources, don't have bases in their countries.

00:49:53.000 But the ones that don't, those that say, okay, well, now we want to interfere.

00:49:58.000 Now we want a piece of the pie.

00:49:59.000 Now this is commerce talking.

00:50:01.000 This is no longer money.

00:50:02.000 And I think that that should be something that at some point we have to accept as a country.

00:50:06.000 And then I think it would be tough for the soldiers to look at that saying, yes, on one hand, it can be said that I'm here to be able to confront, you know, a state that sponsors terrorism.

00:50:17.000 It's a good line.

00:50:18.000 But at the same time, what if all of those soldiers were told at the same time, listen, you're also here because the American economy and in order to fund this lifestyle that we live, It requires you to secure a government that by our standards has horrific human rights abuses, by our standards of the same standards and litmus tests we use to criticize these other places, has terrible human rights offenses.

00:50:45.000 But we need their resources.

00:50:47.000 We need them to be a part of us.

00:50:49.000 We need to support this lifestyle. 0.99

00:50:51.000 It's like if we got divorced from reality and all of a sudden, hey, look, bitch, you can't live like you used to live. 1.00

00:50:58.000 You're going to have to accept not going to the spa every other day. 0.99

00:51:01.000 You're only going to be able to go once a month.

00:51:03.000 Like, no, that's a terrible idea. 1.00

00:51:05.000 Kill them all. 1.00

00:51:05.000 Let's take what we have from them. 1.00

00:51:07.000 And I think that that metaphor applies not just to that, but everything now.

00:51:12.000 Everything's about money.

00:51:13.000 It's not about what's good for you.

00:51:15.000 Very rarely do you find someone who says, oh yeah, I'm just doing this because I'm trying to find what the best thing is for people.

00:51:22.000 No.

00:51:23.000 How can I make this into a money-making opportunity even though it fucks up the entire point and the perspective of what I was trying to do in the first place?

00:51:32.000 Right, it just becomes about making money regardless of the consequences of trying to make that money.

00:51:37.000 You have leeway with entertainment to be able to do that.

00:51:40.000 Yeah, there's got to be a way to reach a happy middle ground, man. 0.92

00:51:44.000 You know, just people have to just not be cunts. 0.88

00:51:47.000 That's really what it is. 0.91

00:51:48.000 Think about what you're doing, for real. 0.99

00:51:50.000 Think about what you're doing and say, am I being a cunt? 0.99

00:51:54.000 Like, look at it realistically. 1.00

00:51:55.000 And if you're being a cunt, stop it. 1.00

00:51:57.000 It's really that simple. 1.00

00:51:58.000 And if you've got some fucking crazy-ass business... 0.99

00:52:02.000 Where you're robbing people of their natural resources and going in there with tanks and killing who knows how many fucking civilians and somehow or another you've passed it off as helping someone's freedom or supporting freedom or making sure we're free. 1.00

00:52:21.000 You're a cunt. 1.00

00:52:22.000 That's a cunt thing. 1.00

00:52:23.000 That's crazy talk. 1.00

00:52:24.000 And the crazy thing is it's always on the top level.

00:52:26.000 And it's always people who have never gone to war themselves. 0.71

00:52:28.000 They're all chicken hogs. 1.00

00:52:29.000 And then it's always somebody who has to suffer and go through being apart from their family.

00:52:34.000 I have a lot of friends.

00:52:36.000 I have some family in the military.

00:52:37.000 You know what I mean?

00:52:38.000 Shout out to all my peoples out there.

00:52:40.000 You can say that legit.

00:52:42.000 You can say shout out to all my peoples out there.

00:52:44.000 To me, I have to say it's got to be sort of funny, tongue-in-cheek.

00:52:47.000 Shout out to all my peoples out there.

00:52:49.000 I want to get a shout out to Shark.

00:52:51.000 I just want people to realize it's not that when we question this country.

00:52:56.000 Not questioning the people that are.

00:52:59.000 We're not angry at JAL. We're angry at the individuals who are in charge that never take responsibility.

00:53:04.000 I have a friend who went to Iraq.

00:53:06.000 He was in the Army Reserve for 20 years.

00:53:09.000 He had less than a month to go, and they sent him to Iraq for a year and a half.

00:53:15.000 They just can do that to you.

00:53:16.000 And then they send them back again.

00:53:17.000 Apparently, they can keep sending you back. 0.96

00:53:20.000 Even though you do your time in the military, Dick Cheney signed some shit where they made it so they could just bring you back if necessary. 0.79

00:53:28.000 If you're a trained soldier, the resources to train a new soldier, it's too difficult, apparently. 0.95

00:53:32.000 So, too much money.

00:53:33.000 We can't afford that.

00:53:34.000 We've got to bring you back. 0.99

00:53:35.000 Or whatever the fuck the excuse is. 0.99

00:53:36.000 But that's crazy. 0.99

00:53:37.000 You've made a person your slave.

00:53:39.000 So what if that person starts up a business?

00:53:41.000 What if that person out in the legit free world has got a family, starts up a business? 0.99

00:53:46.000 Tough shit. 1.00

00:53:47.000 Tough shit. 1.00

00:53:48.000 You've got to go to the desert. 1.00

00:53:49.000 You've got to go to the desert for a year.

00:53:50.000 Maybe more.

00:53:51.000 I think at some point...

00:53:55.000 The individuals that were in charge of designing a war, you know, look at people as statistics and not real individual people because they're not going through it.

00:54:05.000 You know, they're more than happy to let somebody else's child do it.

00:54:08.000 But when you look at them, it's like even the people that make this genetically modified food, you know, I would believe a little bit more if I seen your kids drinking that milk.

00:54:16.000 But I know that they're not.

00:54:18.000 Or the individuals that will say, oh yeah, you know, like I remember there was some story about a girl in the Bush administration.

00:54:24.000 I think they probably would drink that milk.

00:54:25.000 See, that's not even the problem.

00:54:27.000 I don't think these people are on organic diets. 0.93

00:54:29.000 I think they're charlatans.

00:54:30.000 I think they're just in commerce.

00:54:32.000 I don't think they're watching their diet that clearly.

00:54:34.000 No, I think they know.

00:54:35.000 I think when people have millions and millions of dollars, some doctor is going to say, you know what, this is probably not good for you.

00:54:41.000 You probably shouldn't be doing this.

00:54:42.000 What is like, what sort of genetically modified milk Would be bad for you.

00:54:47.000 Is there something like that?

00:54:48.000 Is there genetically modified milk?

00:54:49.000 There's a company that recently has gained a lot of attention called Monsanto and they've had this big...

00:54:57.000 Recently?

00:54:58.000 They made DDT. No, no, no.

00:54:59.000 They made Agent Orange.

00:55:01.000 Recently, now, more than ever.

00:55:03.000 I think they changed their name.

00:55:04.000 Did they change their name?

00:55:05.000 They've been in the game for a while.

00:55:06.000 But we're talking about recently had so many new investigations open.

00:55:11.000 Well, they lost a giant multi-billion dollar lawsuit to farmers in Brazil. 1.00

00:55:16.000 Fuck yeah, Brazil. 1.00

00:55:18.000 I'm happy for that. 1.00

00:55:19.000 Fuck yeah, man. 1.00

00:55:20.000 They sued the shit out of a man. 1.00

00:55:21.000 Beautiful women. 0.99

00:55:22.000 A win against Monsanto.

00:55:24.000 Jiu-jitsu.

00:55:25.000 And almost all that. 0.98

00:55:26.000 Fucking every weight class has a Brazilian champion. 0.85

00:55:28.000 There's more Brazilian champions in MMA because now you've got Henan Barão who just won the interim bantamweight title. 0.95

00:55:35.000 And then you've got Junior Dos Santos who's the heavyweight champion.

00:55:38.000 You've got Anderson Silva who's the middleweight champion.

00:55:41.000 And you've got, you know, there's tough guys at every weight class from Brazil.

00:55:47.000 Aldo.

00:55:48.000 Jose Aldo is the 145-pound champion.

00:55:51.000 I mean, Jesus Christ. 0.99

00:55:52.000 That's a lot of fucking weight classes dominated by a Brazilian. 1.00

00:55:55.000 Somebody told me you recently got a black belt in jiu-jitsu. 0.99

00:55:59.000 Yeah, yeah, I did, yeah.

00:56:01.000 Congratulations.

00:56:01.000 I know that's a lot of work.

00:56:04.000 A lot of getting choked in my neck, my friend.

00:56:06.000 A lot of that.

00:56:07.000 I've got a back problem because of it. 0.94

00:56:09.000 When you see me doing like that all the time, it's because my back is always fucked up from jiu-jitsu. 0.63

00:56:13.000 But it's so fun, I can't help but do it more.

00:56:15.000 I actually took jiu-jitsu for about three or four years when I was a kid.

00:56:19.000 Did you really?

00:56:19.000 Oh, that's great.

00:56:20.000 It gave me a lot of real, real life experience.

00:56:23.000 Yeah, you struggle.

00:56:24.000 My sensei at the time, he was a Vietnam veteran, a real no-nonsense kind of dude.

00:56:29.000 It's always in the good plot in the story.

00:56:31.000 A Vietnam veteran returns to the hood to teach karate.

00:56:34.000 He was always there.

00:56:35.000 He was always in the hood.

00:56:37.000 Shout out to Sensei Stanley Thompson.

00:56:39.000 And he was a very, very, very positive brother in terms of how we advanced in our lessons.

00:56:46.000 Because I remember getting life lessons from the man.

00:56:48.000 Not just how to choke someone or hit someone.

00:56:51.000 But when to and why to.

00:56:53.000 You know what I mean?

00:56:53.000 And the discipline required.

00:56:55.000 I put it on Twitter the other day.

00:56:56.000 One of the things that I always remember he told me.

00:56:58.000 He's like, listen...

00:56:59.000 While you're wasting time with your friends running around, there's somebody that's running and doing push-ups.

00:57:05.000 When you're getting high and drunk with your friends, somebody is doing kata.

00:57:08.000 When you are sitting there playing video games, someone is running laps and smashing a practice dummy. 1.00

00:57:16.000 And when this person meets you, they're going to fucking destroy you. 0.99

00:57:20.000 Yeah, you got a big problem. 0.99

00:57:21.000 I took that real person and I'm like, Jesus Christ, either I'm going to have to commit to this or to that, you know what I mean?

00:57:26.000 But it definitely put those things at the forefront to say, you know what, young brother, you're going to choose your life for yourself.

00:57:32.000 And if this is what you want, you can do it.

00:57:34.000 But at the same time, if you're going to be involved in a situation, just understand what the consequences of that are.

00:57:41.000 For me, martial arts was the first time I understood the connection of what you put in is what you get out.

00:57:48.000 Mm-hmm.

00:57:49.000 I didn't understand that connection before.

00:57:51.000 I always wanted things to happen for me.

00:57:53.000 I didn't really have a physical thing where it was so difficult to do that I realized the only way to get good at it is just intense hard work and focus.

00:58:04.000 Everything else in my life, I was like 15 when I finally got into martial arts.

00:58:08.000 I seriously got into it.

00:58:10.000 But everything else in my life, whether it was getting into art or playing other sports, there was no consequences.

00:58:18.000 It's like, so what if your picture didn't look that good?

00:58:20.000 So what if you dropped the ball? 1.00

00:58:22.000 You didn't get your ass kicked. 1.00

00:58:24.000 Once it was someone who beats your ass, once it was like, oh, this is the top of the foot, it's either this or kill you. 1.00

00:58:30.000 It's either this or kill you. 1.00

00:58:31.000 It's either beat your ass or kill you. 1.00

00:58:32.000 And guess what? 1.00

00:58:33.000 If someone can beat your ass, they can kill you. 1.00

00:58:35.000 They can kill you with their fucking hands. 1.00

00:58:36.000 If a guy gets your back and he chokes you and you tap... 1.00

00:58:39.000 You're essentially admitting that he could have killed you. 0.79

00:58:41.000 If this was a life or death struggle, he would have kept the choke on, you would have been a dead person.

00:58:46.000 You got it, in other words.

00:58:46.000 Exactly.

00:58:47.000 And that was reality to me.

00:58:51.000 It was like, you gotta look at your game, your fighting game and your life game.

00:58:57.000 You gotta look at it.

00:58:58.000 100% realistically.

00:59:00.000 Look at it objectively.

00:59:01.000 Look at it.

00:59:01.000 Stand outside of it and look at it.

00:59:03.000 And I didn't have to do that until I started fighting.

00:59:06.000 I didn't have to do that until martial arts.

00:59:07.000 That was one of the exercises.

00:59:10.000 After we had learned stuff for a certain period of time, we had to show what we learned by fighting Our sensei.

00:59:17.000 It wasn't like...

00:59:18.000 You had to fight him?

00:59:19.000 We had to fight him.

00:59:20.000 Did he take it easy on you?

00:59:23.000 No. 1.00

00:59:23.000 He beat your ass? 1.00

00:59:25.000 Of course. 1.00

00:59:25.000 I mean, that's just the way it is. 1.00

00:59:26.000 But why is he making...

00:59:27.000 How old was this guy?

00:59:28.000 No, I'm not talking about beat us up, like leave us on the floor.

00:59:31.000 Right.

00:59:32.000 He definitely, obviously...

00:59:33.000 But you were like a beginning student, right?

00:59:35.000 We were like...

00:59:36.000 I was maybe like 14, like 13, 14. And I think that it wasn't like...

00:59:41.000 I never went home crippled.

00:59:43.000 I never went home not being able to- Did you ever see stars?

00:59:46.000 Did you ever crack you and saw stars?

00:59:48.000 No.

00:59:48.000 It was more like I definitely got the wind knocked out of me.

00:59:50.000 I fell down.

00:59:51.000 He controlled you.

00:59:52.000 Right, definitely.

00:59:53.000 It was someone who had experience teaching young children and had taught his son from a very young age.

00:59:59.000 So it was more like it was a controlled place and it was more like if in the middle of the fight we did something wrong, we got punished for it because he said, you know better.

01:00:09.000 We trained on that for weeks, you know what I mean?

01:00:12.000 You know what to do at that particular time and now you're just being lazy because you know it hurts to do that block that way or it hurts to get down low and then get back up, you know what I mean?

01:00:21.000 Well, what people don't have to experience in life is that realization, you know, this pain, the bad thing that has happened to you, only happened to you because you didn't put in the work, only happened to you because you weren't focused enough, only happened to you because you did something that you shouldn't have done. 0.95

01:00:38.000 And you have no choice but to learn what the fuck that was and make sure that doesn't happen again. 0.99

01:00:43.000 Because that sucks. 1.00

01:00:44.000 I just got cracked. 0.99

01:00:45.000 Life lessons. 1.00

01:00:46.000 Don't talk shit to Joe on the fear factor. 1.00

01:00:50.000 He'll put you in the headlock and slap you around like a hoe. 1.00

01:00:53.000 I only did that to one dude. 0.62

01:00:55.000 I only did it because I thought he was going to hit me.

01:00:57.000 He wouldn't get away from my face.

01:00:58.000 I pushed him away from me twice.

01:00:59.000 And I was like, if this guy comes in again, I'm just going to manhandle him.

01:01:03.000 I mean, you know, some people are really brave when it comes to barking on a woman, but when they deal with a man, it's a whole other story.

01:01:09.000 Well, I was, you know, trying to make sure that I wasn't sued, too.

01:01:14.000 Like, I didn't want to do anything.

01:01:15.000 I knew there was nine cameras on me.

01:01:16.000 It was like when I had the back of his head, I wanted to make sure that nothing I did was going to get me in trouble.

01:01:22.000 No, because, I mean, in that position, you could have done so many other things that would have just left. 0.98

01:01:26.000 I was so angry, too, because I knew this guy had done some shit before on other shows. 0.99

01:01:31.000 He attacked some counselor on one show and threw his wife on the ground on another show. 1.00

01:01:36.000 I knew he was crazy. 0.97

01:01:38.000 I'll say this much. 0.99

01:01:39.000 When I was a young man, my father told me, he said, listen, the man who hits his woman is a coward.

01:01:45.000 My father was a very strong man.

01:01:46.000 He said, listen, because he's taken out all the problems on the rest of the world that people are giving him, You know what I mean?

01:01:52.000 For all of this and taking it out on the person that's supposed to support him instead of him doing that.

01:01:56.000 Unless...

01:01:57.000 And I asked my father, I said, what if it's the woman... 0.69

01:01:58.000 You're talking about Sean Connery.

01:02:00.000 What if it's the woman that's giving him all the problems? 0.97

01:02:03.000 And I said, yo, at that point, you just get up and leave.

01:02:07.000 That's the worst thing you could do to a woman that's obsessed with trying to ruin your life. 1.00

01:02:11.000 Get up and walk out the door and never answer a phone call and never, you know what I mean?

01:02:15.000 Yeah, well, you just gotta never let it get down that road.

01:02:18.000 When you see it getting down that road to being so crazy you might hit each other, you gotta get out.

01:02:23.000 Either change, both of you, come to some mutual agreement, or get out.

01:02:28.000 People don't, you know, they get in these crazy patterns in relationships. 1.00

01:02:32.000 That's a big part of the fucking problem. 0.99

01:02:33.000 They get used to being in a situation where they yell and scream at each other. 1.00

01:02:37.000 So that seems normal.

01:02:39.000 Yeah, it totally seems normal.

01:02:41.000 I grew up like that.

01:02:42.000 Did you grow up like that?

01:02:43.000 I grew up with both of my parents together.

01:02:46.000 I'm not saying that everything was perfect, but I put it this way.

01:02:49.000 My father was a very, very strict and very, very, like...

01:02:54.000 Tough man on us.

01:02:55.000 But I've never seen my dad hit my mother, and I've never seen my father drunk in my life.

01:03:01.000 Like, ever.

01:03:02.000 Like, my dad, he taught in a military academy.

01:03:04.000 He was, like, really, really tough on us when we were kids.

01:03:07.000 But at the same time, I can say that I am everything I am because, you know, somebody loved me because he took the time to say, hey, you know what?

01:03:14.000 I'm going to take my son who's 12 to the Amazon jungle with me.

01:03:18.000 Oh, you're scared of roaches? 0.99

01:03:19.000 Well, what happens when they're all flying the fuck around you? 0.99

01:03:22.000 Now deal with it. 0.99

01:03:23.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:03:23.000 Deal with the reality of fucking life, dude. 1.00

01:03:26.000 This is life. 1.00

01:03:26.000 You think you're poor because we live in Harlem? 1.00

01:03:29.000 Right.

01:03:29.000 Let's go to the jungle.

01:03:30.000 Let's take you to some little real fucked up area in Peru so you can see people that eat cardboard smashed in with dog meat. 1.00

01:03:38.000 And that's their lunch. 0.98

01:03:39.000 And I know it's cardboard.

01:03:40.000 You know it's cardboard, Joe.

01:03:42.000 They know it's cardboard too. 0.99

01:03:43.000 But they're still going to eat it because they're fucking starving. 0.98

01:03:46.000 So I think my pops really just kind of beat the lessons of life into me. 0.99

01:03:51.000 You know what I mean?

01:03:51.000 That's good, man.

01:03:52.000 That's good to have.

01:03:54.000 A lot of times kids will resent a father like that.

01:03:57.000 They put so much effort and work into it.

01:03:59.000 But it's tough for a dad, too. 1.00

01:04:00.000 You gotta know when to let that fucking kid be himself. 1.00

01:04:03.000 It's hard. 1.00

01:04:04.000 Hard to raise children.

01:04:05.000 I mean, I put it this way.

01:04:09.000 For a long time, me and my father had a very, very negative relationship because of all the crazy stuff I was doing.

01:04:14.000 And then when I got older, I started to realize that a lot of the things that he was trying to do were things that were We're very effective.

01:04:22.000 Like, for one time, he kicked me out. 1.00

01:04:24.000 Real shit. 1.00

01:04:25.000 I hardly ever talk about this, but fuck it, we're here. 1.00

01:04:28.000 And he was basically like, no, look, I love you, you know, you're my firstborn son, but you know, you got drugs in this house, you know? 0.99

01:04:36.000 There's something else in there, you know what I mean?

01:04:39.000 And you're endangering the family.

01:04:41.000 I'm not going to let you endanger your mother. 0.99

01:04:44.000 And your younger sister by running around here being crazy. 1.00

01:04:47.000 So you know what you can do? 1.00

01:04:48.000 You can get your stuff and you can get the fuck out. 1.00

01:04:50.000 And real shit, I left. 1.00

01:04:52.000 How old were you? 0.99

01:04:53.000 Like 16, 15, 16. You kind of have to do that when you have a 15 or 16 year old that's doing that.

01:04:58.000 You really don't have any options. 0.99

01:04:59.000 And for a long time, Joe, I was kind of resentful until I sat back and I said, damn... 0.97

01:05:04.000 As cliche as that sounds, that really must have hurt him more than it hurt me. 1.00

01:05:08.000 Because I was like, fuck you, and I left and I walked out. 1.00

01:05:10.000 But for him, it must have been like, damn, are you that ignorant? 1.00

01:05:13.000 Are you that foolish at that age? 1.00

01:05:15.000 Which is why I always believe when I see people that are in those circumstances. 0.99

01:05:19.000 This was even before I went to prison.

01:05:21.000 This was before I had any real legal drama.

01:05:23.000 What did you go to prison for?

01:05:24.000 For assault.

01:05:26.000 What happened?

01:05:26.000 I had multiple assault charges.

01:05:28.000 I just used to fight a lot when I was a kid.

01:05:29.000 I thought that would solve everything. 1.00

01:05:31.000 You know, I was one of those idiots that was willing to fight to the death against someone who's not my enemy. 1.00

01:05:35.000 And the street is full of those fools right now. 1.00

01:05:37.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:05:38.000 Oh, man, this is the life.

01:05:39.000 No, it's not life or death, homie. 1.00

01:05:40.000 You're going that way and someone's in your way.

01:05:42.000 You can go around them and it'll be a lot less time...

01:05:45.000 I'm amazed sometimes at how lippy people get for no reason.

01:05:49.000 For no reason.

01:05:50.000 People get crazy.

01:05:52.000 They're ready to go.

01:05:53.000 It's almost like they're bluffing, but if you call them on their bluff, they'll go.

01:05:58.000 Most of the time, people are bluffing. 0.99

01:06:01.000 But still, they're putting themselves on fucking a yellow light. 0.95

01:06:06.000 They're putting themselves in a bad situation. 0.97

01:06:08.000 But, I mean, at the same time, Joe, this is not to excuse my actions in any way, shape, or form.

01:06:14.000 I take responsibility for them.

01:06:16.000 But New York was a very different city.

01:06:18.000 Like, if you grew up in New York in the late 80s, early 90s, you had to have some kind of physical confrontation or somebody was going to treat you like a victim.

01:06:27.000 Like, if somebody wanted your hat, it was like, nah, homie, you can't have this hat because you ain't pay for it. 0.95

01:06:31.000 Oh, well, give it.

01:06:32.000 And that's where we start.

01:06:33.000 I lived in Jamaica Plain for a little over a year.

01:06:37.000 Jamaica Plain is the first place we moved to in Boston.

01:06:39.000 It was a pretty poor and real mixed area. 1.00

01:06:43.000 And goddamn, I had to avoid everybody on my block or I would get my ass kicked. 0.99

01:06:48.000 Everybody wanted to fight all the time. 1.00

01:06:50.000 All the time.

01:06:51.000 Kids were always trying to pick fights. 0.99

01:06:53.000 That always talk shit to you, and you're like, look, I'm going home, leave me alone. 1.00

01:06:56.000 And they're just constantly talking shit with you, constantly fucking with you, big groups of kids, small groups of kids. 1.00

01:07:01.000 And when kids are alone, they're loose like that, especially in poor neighborhoods, so they grow up. 1.00

01:07:06.000 Most of the time they're growing up with their fucking parents, they're not having the best time. 0.99

01:07:10.000 That's why they were in a poor neighborhood. 1.00

01:07:12.000 So there's probably violence at home or screaming at home or chaos at home. 0.98

01:07:15.000 And these kids are just fucking loose out on the street. 0.90

01:07:19.000 That really inspired me to get into martial arts. 1.00

01:07:22.000 I was like, fuck this, man. 1.00

01:07:23.000 This is too dangerous. 1.00

01:07:25.000 Everywhere I'm going, someone wants to fight. 0.99

01:07:26.000 I don't know how to fucking fight. 0.99

01:07:28.000 This is crazy. 0.99

01:07:29.000 And when you got into martial arts, then you could just call them out.

01:07:31.000 No, you'd rather not, man.

01:07:33.000 You know, the martial arts make you just walk left.

01:07:35.000 No, no, no.

01:07:36.000 But I mean when you're backed into that corner.

01:07:38.000 Not go fine fighting.

01:07:39.000 I know what you're saying. 0.97

01:07:40.000 I'm saying when you're in that place, in that situation, and there's like eight people talking reckless, they'd be like, listen, homie, if you're a real man, why don't we just shoot the five right now? 0.99

01:07:49.000 Shoot the five? 0.99

01:07:50.000 What is that? 1.00

01:07:50.000 It means just go one-on-one. 1.00

01:07:52.000 Shoot the five. 1.00

01:07:53.000 Let's shoot the five. 1.00

01:07:54.000 Never heard of that. 1.00

01:07:55.000 Shoot the five fingers?

01:07:57.000 Or we get the fair one. 0.98

01:07:58.000 That's what they call it.

01:07:58.000 Get the fair one?

01:07:59.000 The fair one.

01:08:00.000 Over here on the West Coast, let's catch this fade, homie. 1.00

01:08:03.000 You know what I mean? 0.71

01:08:03.000 But out there on the East Coast, let's shoot the fair one. 0.71

01:08:05.000 Because it's just me and you.

01:08:07.000 All we have is space and opportunity.

01:08:09.000 I'm amazed at how many dudes are willing to fight that actually don't know how to fight.

01:08:12.000 That's always amazing.

01:08:14.000 When I watch them, I'm like, that's incredible.

01:08:16.000 You don't even know anything, and you're out there scrapping. 0.98

01:08:18.000 Like, this is ridiculous.

01:08:19.000 They're doing the windmill out there. 0.96

01:08:20.000 They're doing the windmill.

01:08:21.000 They're throwing ridiculous kicks, and they have no training at all.

01:08:24.000 And you're like, oh my god, this is hilarious.

01:08:26.000 This is like...

01:08:27.000 This is a crazy idea. 0.91

01:08:29.000 You're willing to do something that's really fucking dangerous and risky, and you're not good at it at all. 0.96

01:08:33.000 At all. 0.97

01:08:34.000 At all. 0.99

01:08:35.000 I watched a fight go down once in front of the comedy store, and it was the nuttiest shit I ever saw in my life. 0.95

01:08:39.000 I saw a guy completely lose his ability to figure out what he was doing. 0.98

01:08:44.000 Like, he was so freaked out that he was in a fight with this guy.

01:08:48.000 It was a white guy and a black guy.

01:08:50.000 And the white guy is literally frozen in fear and flailing his arms like this.

01:08:56.000 I mean, he just was going like this, like waiting to get hit. 0.99

01:09:00.000 And a fucking bus moved in front of me. 0.99

01:09:03.000 And then as the bus moved by, the dude was laid out, stiff-legged, unconscious, and the black dudes were already running. 1.00

01:09:13.000 Happy birthday, Mitzi. 0.72

01:09:14.000 Yeah, happy birthday, Mitzi.

01:09:16.000 Is it really her birthday?

01:09:17.000 Yeah.

01:09:17.000 How old is she now?

01:09:18.000 Well, we don't say it.

01:09:19.000 A lady doesn't tell. 1.00

01:09:20.000 We're giving shout-outs?

01:09:21.000 To Mitzi, sure.

01:09:22.000 To Mitzi.

01:09:23.000 Shout-out to Mitzi.

01:09:24.000 Shout-out to my people.

01:09:25.000 A Neo Melwani watching from the East Coast. 0.97

01:09:28.000 Snow the product and her brother.

01:09:29.000 You know what I mean?

01:09:30.000 I want to shout-out to the whole Rebel Arms, the whole squad that's watching right now, everybody.

01:09:36.000 Ladies and gentlemen, don't go fighting in the street, even if you do know what you're doing.

01:09:39.000 Don't go do it.

01:09:40.000 That's the last option.

01:09:42.000 People gotta learn how to chill.

01:09:44.000 That's the hard part, right? 0.98

01:09:45.000 How the fuck does this world evolve if we're still involved in all the wars and all the craziness? 0.99

01:09:51.000 How the fuck do we get past this? 0.99

01:09:53.000 The more I look at... 1.00

01:09:56.000 The life that we see on TV every day and the tragedies that we see in the news and the horrific things that are going on all over the world, the more I go, there's gotta be a way that collectively we can figure out how to stop most of this shit. 0.99

01:10:11.000 Most of this shit that I'm looking at is people doing shit to other people. 0.99

01:10:16.000 We collectively stop that. 1.00

01:10:18.000 It's almost like because we're not dealing with UFOs or asteroids or anything nutty outside of the earth, All of our conflicts are being caused by people doing cunty shit to other people. 0.98

01:10:31.000 Like literally the whole world's problem is the whole world. 0.98

01:10:34.000 The people in the world's problem is the people. 0.96

01:10:37.000 It seems like that should be the easiest thing to solve.

01:10:42.000 That should be the easiest thing to figure out how to get past.

01:10:45.000 It's like, we're like the crazy person that never learns from their crazy actions. 1.00

01:10:49.000 Just keeps doing the same stupid shit over and over and over again. 1.00

01:10:52.000 We're the crazy person that doesn't realize they're crazy like most crazy people don't seem to get. 1.00

01:10:57.000 I think what we're talking about here is really the evolution and the de-evolution of mankind.

01:11:04.000 Because we have We're so close.

01:11:07.000 We have the ability to be on other planets almost.

01:11:10.000 You know what I mean?

01:11:11.000 We have the ability to create these lasers, these incredible communication devices, these incredible travel devices.

01:11:17.000 Cell phones, 4G. But we have not cured greed.

01:11:20.000 We haven't cured racism.

01:11:22.000 We haven't cured jealousy, anger, hatred.

01:11:25.000 We're ruled by these things and people that can control them and know how those function within the human mind.

01:11:34.000 What's interesting is that when things get created, say something spectacular or something destructive, the people that are creating that thing, then that technology gets put into the hands of people that did not create it.

01:11:48.000 They just have it now.

01:11:49.000 And that is always a problem.

01:11:51.000 When someone wields something of incredible power and they didn't even create it, you know, you just got it from...

01:11:59.000 So do you understand the whole process behind it?

01:12:02.000 If you are the type of person that can create that, are you the type of person that would be willing to unleash it on people?

01:12:10.000 I think you'd be more willing to unleash it if you bought it.

01:12:13.000 You know, if you got it from somebody else.

01:12:15.000 It's just... 0.99

01:12:17.000 We have the ability to do shit that we don't have the moral evolution to cope with. 0.97

01:12:23.000 We have the ability to wipe out like giant sections of the world in like real quick blasts and we somehow or another feel like you know because we do it a little bit more precisely like in Iraq like that's a little bit more precisely you send actual troops in there instead of just dusting the whole area it's still a massive amount of Casualty. 0.97

01:12:43.000 And they love to use the word, the catchphrase, collateral damage, which I think is one of the worst excuses for murder in the world.

01:12:53.000 It's crazy.

01:12:54.000 It's crazy that you can just look at it that way.

01:12:55.000 And the sad part is the people who catch the blame are always the people on the bottom, the enlisted men.

01:13:01.000 Even in Abu Ghraib, when I saw that, I was like, oh, okay, watch. 0.81

01:13:05.000 All the soldiers are going to get some kind of shit to them, but the people, the commanders, the officers in charge, the people who decided the policy at DOD, the individuals who were at the administration who said, yeah, this is fine, do what you need to do to get this. 0.92

01:13:19.000 Those people that gave free range, they always escape. 0.99

01:13:22.000 They always seem to have their little exit in the back door, while the individuals who actually did it And yet bear no responsibility for being told to do it or being told this is what we're going to do or this is in the middle.

01:13:36.000 Is that what happened in Abu Ghraib? 0.98

01:13:37.000 I thought it was just the soldiers deciding to be fuckheads and take pictures with bodies and sick dogs on people. 0.97

01:13:42.000 I'm not gonna say that that isn't part of what happened, but I believe in all of these situations that there was some kind of culture within the society that says, You know what? 0.98

01:13:52.000 If you get caught doing this, you're gonna do the time for this as opposed to whoever is on the top for it.

01:13:57.000 Because you have the benefits of being here.

01:14:00.000 It's always crazy when a stranger is your enemy.

01:14:03.000 Okay?

01:14:03.000 That doesn't make any sense.

01:14:05.000 If a stranger is your enemy, someone's doing something fucked up. 0.93

01:14:09.000 It's either you or it's him, and you gotta figure out who it is. 0.98

01:14:12.000 And if you're in his town, and you're carrying a gun, Then it's you.

01:14:17.000 You're not supposed to be there.

01:14:20.000 The only way...

01:14:21.000 Looking for Al-Qaeda in a country that don't have... 1.00

01:14:23.000 It's just fucking crazy. 0.98

01:14:24.000 The only way you would have a stranger that's your enemy is if we were in a place where you couldn't communicate. 0.97

01:14:30.000 We're not in that place anymore.

01:14:31.000 We're in a totally different world. 1.00

01:14:33.000 This isn't the world of 10,000 years ago when we show up in a fucking wooden boat and we hit the beach and there's a dude shooting arrows at us and we've got to kick some ass. 0.99

01:14:41.000 This is a totally different world we're living in now. 0.99

01:14:44.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:14:45.000 But has humanity evolved naturally?

01:14:48.000 In other words, if we took somebody from now and supplanted them into that era, would they simply act the same?

01:14:53.000 Or if we took somebody from that era and put them in here now, wouldn't the results simply be the same?

01:14:58.000 I don't know.

01:14:59.000 I would like to think that we've evolved a little bit, or a larger percentage of us have evolved a little bit because of the internet.

01:15:07.000 Because of people's abilities to express themselves in a way that, you know, Monsanto didn't really have to hear from the regular people in the 1960s when they were making Agent Orange.

01:15:18.000 They didn't have to, you know, there was protests in the news, and if there's not a bunch of people carrying signs, you're not getting anything from the people, you know what I mean?

01:15:25.000 It's not like today when people on Twitter would go fucking crazy and any big story that happens, any big corruption story.

01:15:33.000 We're going to boycott and it actually has serious consequences. 0.81

01:15:36.000 Because people say, you know what, I'm going to contact this person and you're going to have economic consequences by the end of the day.

01:15:42.000 Which, by the way, is all that they listen to.

01:15:44.000 Well, by the way, today, Chick-fil-A. Roseanne Barr went off on Chick-fil-A because the governor of Massachusetts, God bless his soul, was talking about how Chick-fil-A is not welcome in Boston because Chick-fil-A has this product.

01:16:02.000 It was something to do with their idea.

01:16:05.000 They have a very religious company, apparently, and it has something to do with their ideas.

01:16:09.000 Chick-fil-A. Yeah, they won't even serve on Sunday.

01:16:12.000 Yeah, they're closed on Sunday.

01:16:13.000 They're closed every Sunday.

01:16:14.000 They lose millions of dollars every year because of that.

01:16:16.000 But that's just the way it is. 1.00

01:16:18.000 Fucking sandwiches are delicious. 1.00

01:16:20.000 The guy may be nutty with Jesus, but he makes a hell of a fucking chicken sandwich. 1.00

01:16:24.000 Or he bought a good recipe once upon a time. 1.00

01:16:27.000 Could be.

01:16:27.000 But yeah, I don't know what it is.

01:16:28.000 But whatever it was, whatever the statements from Chick-fil-A were addressed by the mayor of Boston, I think it was, right?

01:16:35.000 Was it the mayor of Boston or the governor of Massachusetts?

01:16:37.000 I didn't know this.

01:16:38.000 Either one.

01:16:39.000 I haven't lived there in a long time. 0.99

01:16:41.000 I don't know who's running shit. 0.99

01:16:42.000 But whoever's running shit essentially said that they weren't welcome. 1.00

01:16:46.000 That's You know, they don't observe same-sex marriages. 1.00

01:16:50.000 I don't know what the fuck else it was. 0.98

01:16:52.000 You know, whatever statements. 0.85

01:16:53.000 It's kind of funny. 0.99

01:16:54.000 Because people should be allowed to think whatever the fuck they want to think. 0.98

01:16:56.000 And who cares? 0.99

01:16:57.000 It's just a chicken sandwich place.

01:16:58.000 You know, as long as they're not actively victimizing anybody, they can have their nutty beliefs.

01:17:02.000 You know, I think you're allowed to have your nutty beliefs.

01:17:04.000 Even if your nutty beliefs don't jive with mine, you're allowed to have them.

01:17:09.000 You know, you can't...

01:17:09.000 As long as they're not affecting or hurting.

01:17:11.000 As long as they're not hurting people.

01:17:13.000 Yeah, I don't know what the motivation was.

01:17:14.000 But then again, maybe Chick-fil-A is...

01:17:16.000 Part of this big, super-packed donors that say, we're going to give money to try and effect this legislation.

01:17:21.000 Then it becomes different.

01:17:22.000 Then your opinion is not your opinion. 0.99

01:17:23.000 Then you're starting to use your money that you get from all of the things that you have to bolster this opinion and make people believe that your opinion is a fact rather than just your fucking opinion. 0.97

01:17:32.000 Yeah, that gets tricky, right? 0.97

01:17:34.000 It gets tricky when you can profit.

01:17:36.000 It gets tricky when you get profit off distributing your opinion, you know, and getting people to go along with it.

01:17:41.000 It gets...

01:17:42.000 Well, Joe, this is kind of what you and me do.

01:17:44.000 We profit by distributing our opinion on stuff.

01:17:47.000 Sure, but we don't have any influence on the ability to control countries.

01:17:54.000 We're very simple.

01:17:55.000 Come to a comedy show influence.

01:17:59.000 Very different.

01:18:00.000 I heard they're suing Batman.

01:18:04.000 Yeah, Warner Brothers.

01:18:05.000 Yeah, the people involved in the...

01:18:06.000 Because... 0.98

01:18:07.000 You know, I don't want to say anything bad about those poor fucking people, but someone apparently had the idea that they could make some money, it looks like. 0.98

01:18:14.000 They're suing them for promoting violence, which is ridiculous, because this was the third movie in a Batman trilogy. 0.98

01:18:21.000 I mean, you knew exactly what it is. 0.98

01:18:23.000 The fucking whole movie is about a crime fighter. 0.98

01:18:26.000 And they were saying also that because of the movie, the guy came in in the costume, they thought he was a part of the movie. 0.99

01:18:35.000 But isn't that more the theater's responsibility because they were supposed to close that?

01:18:39.000 Who knows, man? 0.99

01:18:40.000 Who the fuck knows? 1.00

01:18:40.000 Look, somebody wants to kill you. 1.00

01:18:41.000 They're going to do a full investigation.

01:18:42.000 But the sad thing is now people want to know everything.

01:18:46.000 I see the difference in between the way people are treated and I think it's kind of hard to ignore.

01:18:51.000 There's no specific cause right now that they have of his actions.

01:18:55.000 However, I know what it would be if he had had a Muslim last name. 0.93

01:19:01.000 It would be like, Automatically, he must be a terrorist. 0.98

01:19:03.000 He killed military personnel. 0.99

01:19:05.000 He must be a terrorist. 0.99

01:19:07.000 He's actually scarier. 0.99

01:19:09.000 He's scarier than someone that's a part of some sort of a religious ideology. 0.99

01:19:12.000 Or if he was Latino, they'd be like, oh, he's an illegal immigrant. 1.00

01:19:16.000 Get him out of here. 1.00

01:19:18.000 Or a black guy. 1.00

01:19:18.000 He's a gang member. 1.00

01:19:19.000 Rather than just being like, hey...

01:19:21.000 And I saw that circulating on the Internet, and I wonder how real that could potentially be.

01:19:26.000 Even to the fact of him being alive.

01:19:28.000 If he was of...

01:19:30.000 You know, a complexion that can't make the connection, would he be walking? 1.00

01:19:35.000 I mean, would they want to take him alive?

01:19:37.000 Would they just be like, look, just pop him.

01:19:38.000 We don't need somebody like this run through the media.

01:19:40.000 Just get rid of him. 0.99

01:19:40.000 Well, I think when you get to a situation like that, there's too many cameras on you. 0.99

01:19:45.000 You know, the reason why they didn't kill that guy, well, they might have killed that guy back in the day, Was that there's too many people with cameras on you, and you can get sued for that.

01:19:51.000 You can get sued.

01:19:52.000 If somebody has a cell phone camera and you don't know about it, you can't just murder the guy right there. 1.00

01:19:56.000 You're fucked. 1.00

01:19:57.000 Because if you do that, they'll put you in jail for murder. 1.00

01:19:59.000 Unless you're a cop and you're in the Bay Area, because he shot that kid on camera. 1.00

01:20:02.000 Well, he fucked up. 1.00

01:20:03.000 He's an idiot. 1.00

01:20:04.000 He thought that was his taser, that stupid fuck. 1.00

01:20:07.000 You really think that's true? 1.00

01:20:08.000 I don't know, but a taser is a fucking device with a trigger. 1.00

01:20:11.000 And if you're an idiot... 1.00

01:20:13.000 If you're a fucking idiot and you're freaking out because you're in the middle of a physical confrontation with someone, and you accidentally pull out your gun instead of your taser, I mean, I can't think that he thought it would be okay to shoot that guy like that. 1.00

01:20:22.000 That doesn't even make any sense. 1.00

01:20:23.000 It seemed more like a fucking moron move. 1.00

01:20:26.000 Because the guy was already lying down on the ground. 1.00

01:20:27.000 He was resisting.

01:20:28.000 You wouldn't shoot him once you already have him down on the ground.

01:20:31.000 You know what I mean?

01:20:32.000 He was trying to tase that dude.

01:20:33.000 People do things like that all the time that they don't think they're going to have consequences for. 0.56

01:20:37.000 Well, if that's the case, he's a psychopath Because it didn't make any sense that he shot him It made sense though Didn't he dye his hair like the nigga who killed You mean the new Okay, we're talking about two separate things now No, no, no, he did dye his hair too The new guy The cop dyed his hair? 0.91

01:20:52.000 The cop that shot that kid in the subway? 0.93

01:20:53.000 Yeah, he dyed his hair and he went to like They caught him somewhere else Really?

01:20:58.000 Yeah.

01:20:59.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

01:21:00.000 You mean the cop fled?

01:21:01.000 Yeah, he bounced for a little while.

01:21:03.000 Oh, I didn't know that at all.

01:21:04.000 Go look it up.

01:21:05.000 Everybody look it up online.

01:21:07.000 I believe you.

01:21:07.000 I didn't know that.

01:21:08.000 He bounced.

01:21:09.000 Well, maybe he just thought he was going to jail for life. 1.00

01:21:11.000 He just fucked up and he panicked. 1.00

01:21:12.000 Who knows? 1.00

01:21:13.000 But he got a slap on the wrist.

01:21:14.000 And I always joke about it.

01:21:16.000 I joke about it.

01:21:17.000 How long did he get?

01:21:18.000 Nothing.

01:21:19.000 Hardly anything, probably.

01:21:21.000 I think it probably was a mistake.

01:21:23.000 I don't know, but it's a terrible mistake.

01:21:25.000 The guy, the kid, Oscar Grant, I mean, I can't even imagine how many more people ended up like him within that era where there was, like you said, no cameras.

01:21:37.000 When there was no one back in the day.

01:21:39.000 You know, how many people have been the victim of that?

01:21:41.000 Yeah, I know a lot of cops, man. 1.00

01:21:44.000 One of the problems is you're a cop, you see a lot of shit. 1.00

01:21:47.000 You see a lot of shit all the time and you lose your patience. 1.00

01:21:50.000 You lose your patience and you become more attuned to the cunts of the world than you would like to be. 1.00

01:21:57.000 You don't want to hear any fucking bullshit anymore. 1.00

01:21:59.000 It's a very, very fucking tricky job to maintain your humanity. 1.00

01:22:03.000 My question is this now. 0.96

01:22:05.000 You're always seeing the worst in people.

01:22:06.000 Being that I know...

01:22:08.000 That there are people out there who really do risk their lives, like if someone's house is getting robbed or...

01:22:13.000 Well, how about this guy?

01:22:14.000 This guy in Denver, man.

01:22:16.000 Someone had to go in there and stop him.

01:22:18.000 This isn't something that the community could just rally together.

01:22:23.000 No one had guns.

01:22:24.000 But my question is, the police that break the law...

01:22:29.000 Should they be held more accountable because they know the law that much better?

01:22:34.000 I don't think it ever...

01:22:36.000 Or should you get time minimized?

01:22:40.000 For example, there's a case in New York where a guy, he got like a year of probation or something, or one year in jail or something, because he killed a guy while he was drunk driving.

01:22:50.000 And his family is apparently connected with the NYPD. This is my question though.

01:22:57.000 If you're a cop, shouldn't you be held accountable to the law even more so?

01:23:02.000 Because you knew it was wrong to be drunk and driving.

01:23:04.000 You arrested people probably a hundred times for doing the same thing.

01:23:07.000 I don't think that it's ever been shown that to put people in a situation where it's whatever they're doing that's wrong Has more of a consequence?

01:23:15.000 I don't think that's ever been shown to have any effect on their actions. 0.99

01:23:18.000 I think people do shit because they think they're going to get away with it. 1.00

01:23:21.000 They don't do shit because they measure the consequence and go, alright, I might do a year in jail, fuck it, let's ride. 1.00

01:23:27.000 They don't do it like that. 1.00

01:23:29.000 It's more of an impulsive sort of a thing when people make mistakes like that. 0.97

01:23:33.000 But if people know, listen, There's no way that I'm really gonna catch that much heat for this because who the fuck cares? 0.62

01:23:40.000 If I'm drunk and somebody pulls me over and we both play for the same team, you're gonna bring me in?

01:23:46.000 Do you know what's gonna happen to you after that?

01:23:47.000 Really?

01:23:48.000 What's really crazy is how many cops turned out to be corrupt back in the days before the internet. 0.80

01:23:53.000 I mean, I think it's very difficult to be corrupt today, but I think back in the day it was probably pretty fucking easy.

01:24:00.000 I think it's slightly less difficult to be corrupt. 0.56

01:24:03.000 I mean, I think you can if there's money in it for you.

01:24:06.000 And I think there's levels of corruption.

01:24:08.000 There's harmful levels.

01:24:09.000 And then there's simple stuff like, you know what?

01:24:12.000 I'll fix your tickets for you.

01:24:13.000 We're good friends.

01:24:14.000 That's corruption, whether or not it's bad and people's kids are dying.

01:24:18.000 Someone shouldn't have the ability to do that.

01:24:20.000 They say, you know what?

01:24:21.000 You're connected with me.

01:24:22.000 I'll give you the card.

01:24:23.000 When you have a problem, you call me and I take care of it.

01:24:26.000 I know people that benefit from that.

01:24:28.000 I know people that have been in situations where they may not be 100% right and they have a specific card or something like that.

01:24:36.000 And I'm not denigrating this thing.

01:24:39.000 I'm just saying that at some point, you know, are you more responsible for your corruption because you know the law 10 times better?

01:24:46.000 And you're enforcing it.

01:24:46.000 It's your job.

01:24:47.000 And you're enforcing it.

01:24:47.000 In other words, if you get caught for murder, And then you're off all of a sudden in five years, that's only because you knew the law better and then you still broke it?

01:24:57.000 Or you're selling drugs to people?

01:24:59.000 Like I said, I don't think that you can make people more responsible and you're going to change anything.

01:25:03.000 You might make people feel better because you're punishing them more, but I don't think you're necessarily going to change behavior by offering a bigger consequence.

01:25:10.000 I think the only way to change behavior is to change thinking.

01:25:15.000 What I try to tell people is, and it sounds ridiculous, but this is something that came to me on a boat once, is that you've got to treat everybody as if it's you living another life.

01:25:23.000 We could all do that.

01:25:24.000 We could all do that. 0.95

01:25:26.000 If we could all picture any person, regardless of what the fuck they're going through in your life, think about what it would be like to live that person's life from birth to death with their situation, their economic situation, their biological situation, their Their life experiences. 0.88

01:25:41.000 Would you be any different than that person? 0.96

01:25:44.000 If you were that man, if you were that woman, would you be any different? 0.75

01:25:47.000 Are you them?

01:25:49.000 You know, if that person was born you, would they be you?

01:25:52.000 And are we all the same like that?

01:25:54.000 And is that what life really is all about?

01:25:56.000 Is figuring out that each one of us is exactly the same.

01:26:00.000 We're just living through a different biological circumstance.

01:26:03.000 And the more you can treat Everyone you meet, like they're you living another life, the happier you'll be.

01:26:11.000 And that's the only way we're ever going to sort this thing out.

01:26:14.000 Everyone has to do things based on that ideal. 0.89

01:26:18.000 Whether it's business or personal shit, whatever you do, you always have to think that this person that you're dealing with is you living another life. 1.00

01:26:27.000 And you can't let them boss you around, can't let them talk shit to you, can't let them fuck up your life. 0.99

01:26:32.000 You know, you do your best to keep them on track, but your ethic and your resolve and your intent should always be to treat them as if it was you living a whole other life. 0.99

01:26:41.000 Unless you're somebody who hates yourself, and then that's just... 0.99

01:26:44.000 Well, you gotta get your shit together, son. 1.00

01:26:46.000 That's a whole other trip. 1.00

01:26:48.000 Then you start fucking people up like, I fucking hate you. 1.00

01:26:49.000 Well, they just closed down all these medical marijuana dispensaries in California. 1.00

01:26:53.000 Or they just sent a letter in Los Angeles.

01:26:56.000 Los Angeles has decided to step in, in their infinite wisdom, and shut down the only businesses that are regularly making money in all of Los Angeles. 1.00

01:27:05.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

01:27:06.000 You fucking dummies! 1.00

01:27:09.000 The first American flag was made out of hemp. 1.00

01:27:11.000 Yeah, one of the drafts of the Declaration of Independence was written on Ham.

01:27:15.000 I mean, who cares about all that stuff?

01:27:17.000 The idea that...

01:27:18.000 I can't.

01:27:19.000 You know why?

01:27:19.000 I do.

01:27:19.000 You know why?

01:27:20.000 Because I think it takes the story back and it shows us...

01:27:23.000 Listen, people made their clothes out of this.

01:27:25.000 People did everything.

01:27:26.000 Look...

01:27:26.000 Right, but that's not even the psychoactive stuff.

01:27:28.000 We live in a culture now where the smoke that causes cancer is legal and the smoke that cures cancer is illegal. 0.97

01:27:35.000 And that's fucking mind-boggling to me. 0.63

01:27:36.000 It doesn't necessarily cure cancer, but it certainly reduces... 0.99

01:27:39.000 Right, well, I'm just saying that...

01:27:40.000 By the way, Tommy Chong, for all the people that listen to the podcast, Tommy Chong is 99% cancer-free now.

01:27:45.000 He just started...

01:27:47.000 God bless him.

01:27:48.000 He's been doing this hemp oil stuff, and Rick Simpson is the guy who invented this hemp oil.

01:27:54.000 Apparently, it's this really potent form of the oil from cannabis, and it puts you on the fucking moon, and in the process, it shrinks tumors.

01:28:02.000 Yeah, so congratulations to our friend Tommy Chong. 0.96

01:28:05.000 That's awesome news.

01:28:07.000 Congratulations.

01:28:07.000 And it's amazing that this guy did it with no chemotherapy.

01:28:10.000 He did it with holistic medicine, meaning vitamins and food, and not meaning anything crazy like sucking on crystals and making all the noises.

01:28:18.000 Holistic, meaning treating the body as a whole, giving it nutrients.

01:28:22.000 Giving, you know, he does what I do every morning. 0.85

01:28:25.000 He has a kale shake, you know, which is a lot of people have been doing this, and if you're down for health and vitality, man, there's very few things in life better than a really fucking thick, heavy, nutrient-dense vegetable shake in the morning, and it does not taste good. 0.97

01:28:43.000 I'm not gonna fucking lie to you. 0.99

01:28:45.000 I chew this shit down every day. 1.00

01:28:47.000 And every day I think about finding a way to pussy out of this. 1.00

01:28:50.000 Like, oh man, just have some bacon and eggs. 1.00

01:28:52.000 Fuck this. 1.00

01:28:52.000 But I don't. 1.00

01:28:53.000 I drink this goddamn awful concoction. 0.99

01:28:56.000 I was feeling like a little bit sick when I came back from Canada the other day. 1.00

01:29:00.000 A lot of traveling and shit. 1.00

01:29:01.000 I drank this shit one day. 1.00

01:29:03.000 By the end of the day, I felt great. 0.99

01:29:05.000 That's never happened.

01:29:06.000 Every time I get a cold, by the end of the day, I'm ready to go to sleep.

01:29:10.000 I'm fighting this off.

01:29:11.000 I gotta take a...

01:29:12.000 A hot bath the next day.

01:29:14.000 You know, it takes like a day to fight off a cold.

01:29:16.000 By the end of the day, it was done. 1.00

01:29:19.000 Because I'm eating nutrient-dense shit, bitches. 1.00

01:29:23.000 Okay? 1.00

01:29:24.000 I go crazy with it.

01:29:25.000 My latest thing, I add coconut oil to it.

01:29:27.000 Because Rob Wolf, who will be on tomorrow, the author of The Paleo Diet, said that in order for you to get maximum absorption of the vitamins from plants, you should have them with some fat.

01:29:38.000 The way the human body works, you should have a little bit of fat. 0.99

01:29:40.000 So I started adding coconut oil to that shit, son! 1.00

01:29:43.000 And coconut oil has been known to help people who have Alzheimer's disease. 1.00

01:29:48.000 There's some sort of a connection between Alzheimer's disease and diabetes.

01:29:52.000 That it's almost like a sort of a cousin of diabetes for the brain or something like that.

01:29:57.000 And they're having positive results giving Alzheimer's patients coconut oil. 1.00

01:30:02.000 Coconut is a wonderful fucking plant. 0.99

01:30:04.000 What an amazing resource coconuts are. 1.00

01:30:07.000 It tastes delicious.

01:30:08.000 You can eat the meat of it.

01:30:11.000 You drink it.

01:30:12.000 There's oil in it.

01:30:13.000 It's great for you.

01:30:14.000 You can't think anything better for rehydrating than coconut milk. 1.00

01:30:17.000 The water from coconuts is the shit. 1.00

01:30:20.000 G2O, bitches! 1.00

01:30:22.000 Is there coconut butter? 0.99

01:30:23.000 No, coconut butter's good.

01:30:24.000 My favorite candy bar of all time is Almond Joy, because it has coconut in it.

01:30:29.000 Almond Joy.

01:30:29.000 Is the almonds alone good enough?

01:30:31.000 Nope. 0.99

01:30:31.000 Need some coconut to back that shit up. 0.99

01:30:33.000 You know? 1.00

01:30:34.000 That's what it is.

01:30:35.000 Mars?

01:30:36.000 Mars is even better than...

01:30:37.000 I prefer Mars over Almond Joy.

01:30:39.000 But it's tough to just find Mars. 1.00

01:30:42.000 Damn, man. 0.99

01:30:42.000 You know what I found out last night, Joe? 0.99

01:30:43.000 You're going to freak out about this thing.

01:30:45.000 I bet I won't.

01:30:45.000 Down the street, maybe a mile that way, there's a Roscoe Chicken and Biscuits or whatever.

01:30:51.000 Waffles, yeah.

01:30:51.000 Waffles.

01:30:52.000 Yeah, there's one in Pasadena.

01:30:53.000 I didn't know that.

01:30:53.000 Yeah, you didn't know that?

01:30:54.000 No.

01:30:55.000 Dude, we should totally...

01:30:55.000 They opened one in Inglewood, too.

01:30:57.000 Yeah.

01:30:58.000 Whenever we do Rock the Bells, we're going to do a tour in August.

01:31:02.000 I'm going to be back here on the West Coast, and I got a big show in San Bernardino.

01:31:07.000 And then I have one on San Diego, Ventura.

01:31:12.000 San Luis Obispo, Fresno and all that.

01:31:14.000 But whenever all the dudes come here, that's the first thing they say.

01:31:17.000 Roscoe's chicken and waffles.

01:31:19.000 It's tough to beat that combination.

01:31:20.000 They nailed it, man. 0.99

01:31:21.000 And that chicken is the best fucking fried chicken you will ever have. 0.99

01:31:25.000 It's not just fried, just fried chicken or just waffles. 0.98

01:31:27.000 The waffles are perfect. 0.98

01:31:29.000 They're goddamn American waffles. 1.00

01:31:30.000 Okay, ladies and gentlemen, not this Belgian bullshit. 1.00

01:31:33.000 These big, fat, fluffy fucking loaves of bread that you're soaking up the syrup with. 1.00

01:31:38.000 No, it's a goddamn flat waffle, an American waffle with some badass fried chicken. 1.00

01:31:43.000 You can't fuck with Roscoe's. 1.00

01:31:45.000 They're too good. 1.00

01:31:46.000 I like it.

01:31:47.000 Especially with hot sauce, that chicken with hot sauce.

01:31:49.000 I always say, listen, if they open one in New York, they would make a killing.

01:31:53.000 A killing. 0.99

01:31:54.000 They would crush it. 1.00

01:31:55.000 They would crush it.

01:31:56.000 There would be lines out the door every day.

01:31:58.000 Same with In-N-Out, man.

01:31:59.000 If In-N-Out got to New York... 0.99

01:32:01.000 You know, there's some people on the West Coast that have figured some shit out. 0.98

01:32:04.000 Chicken and waffles and an In-N-Out burger. 0.99

01:32:06.000 And the cannabis dispensaries.

01:32:09.000 That too.

01:32:09.000 Those hit the East Coast.

01:32:10.000 Yeah, but meanwhile, these cunts are closing them here. 1.00

01:32:13.000 It's so crazy. 0.98

01:32:14.000 It's like, if Mitt Romney gets in office...

01:32:17.000 Are they in court for this right now?

01:32:17.000 They're in court for this, or they just started the procedure now?

01:32:20.000 I don't know.

01:32:20.000 They made a statement yesterday.

01:32:22.000 They ruled.

01:32:24.000 Somebody's got to sue.

01:32:25.000 Yeah, I think the city council ruled, right?

01:32:28.000 Is that what it was?

01:32:28.000 Yeah, but what I don't understand is how they can just do that, because a lot of these people are families, and this is their family business now, and they've invested so much time and money, and they were allowed to.

01:32:39.000 They're doing it because they have power that they didn't earn.

01:32:42.000 They don't deserve it. 1.00

01:32:43.000 They're dumb cunts. 1.00

01:32:44.000 That's why they're doing it. 1.00

01:32:45.000 They're idiots. 1.00

01:32:47.000 The idea that it's hurting anybody is preposterous, so the idea that you're protecting people from anything is ridiculous. 1.00

01:32:52.000 What are you doing?

01:32:53.000 What are you doing that's good for the common welfare?

01:32:56.000 What are you doing that's good for the community?

01:32:58.000 What you're doing is absolutely illogical and based on a false pretense, and that is that there's something wrong Who said that?

01:33:23.000 Dr. Drew.

01:33:24.000 You could get addicted to beating off.

01:33:26.000 You could get addicted to playing with your eyelids.

01:33:29.000 There's people that are addicted to plucking hairs out of their arms, okay?

01:33:32.000 That doesn't mean that plucking hairs out of your arms should be illegal. 1.00

01:33:35.000 It's fucking stupid. 1.00

01:33:36.000 These people are broken bitches. 1.00

01:33:38.000 This is the other thing. 1.00

01:33:40.000 I can't drive a car when I'm drunk.

01:33:41.000 And I wouldn't try.

01:33:43.000 But I could definitely drive very safely.

01:33:46.000 When you're high.

01:33:46.000 If I'm blazed up.

01:33:48.000 People are silly. 0.97

01:33:49.000 There are certain things you can do. 1.00

01:33:51.000 You know what I mean?

01:33:51.000 And there are certain things you just cannot...

01:33:54.000 Well, I don't like to drive high, but I could do it if I had to.

01:33:58.000 I do jujitsu high all day.

01:33:59.000 I do it all the time.

01:34:00.000 There's no problem.

01:34:01.000 My kickbox high, it feels natural to me.

01:34:04.000 It doesn't bother me.

01:34:05.000 I don't like learning new techniques when I'm high.

01:34:07.000 I like training.

01:34:08.000 I like rolling or hitting the mitts or something like that.

01:34:12.000 I like doing that when I'm high.

01:34:13.000 But if someone's trying to teach me some new way to throw a kick, then I wouldn't want to do it high.

01:34:17.000 Yeah.

01:34:18.000 Then I want to have all my faculties, and I want to be distracted.

01:34:21.000 But when you know what you're there to do, you get high, you just get into that groove.

01:34:25.000 There's no physical repercussions of it.

01:34:27.000 I have no slowing in my reflexes or movements.

01:34:31.000 Just to clarify, I'm not advising that people get high and drive.

01:34:33.000 I'm advising that people get high and do jujitsu. 0.99

01:34:35.000 I am advising that shit. 0.99

01:34:37.000 I'm not advising people get high and drive, but if you want to get high and do jujitsu or do something that... 1.00

01:34:43.000 I swear to God, it knocks my jujitsu up a notch.

01:34:45.000 Yeah, I believe so.

01:34:47.000 I believe so.

01:34:48.000 Even with the delayed reaction time?

01:34:50.000 There's no delayed reaction time. 0.94

01:34:52.000 That's what's silly.

01:34:53.000 You know, people, first of all, people are getting that indica weed. 0.53

01:34:55.000 And that indica weed is all over the East Coast.

01:34:58.000 It's very hard for you guys to get sativa.

01:35:00.000 Because you guys aren't in a legal environment.

01:35:02.000 In California, it's legal, so they figured out a way to grow the more psychoactively potent strains of sativa.

01:35:10.000 Like a train wreck, and there's a green crack, and there's a...

01:35:13.000 The one called Sage that we're smoking right now. 0.99

01:35:16.000 These things are fucking Carl Sagan weed, man. 1.00

01:35:19.000 This is Cosmos type shit. 1.00

01:35:21.000 This is not the kind of weed that makes you sink into the couch. 0.99

01:35:25.000 And the kind of weed that you get on the East Coast...

01:35:27.000 We don't all get...

01:35:28.000 Oh, don't say that.

01:35:28.000 We don't all get bad weed.

01:35:30.000 It's not bad weed, bro.

01:35:31.000 I'm not saying bad weed. 1.00

01:35:32.000 I like that shit. 1.00

01:35:33.000 We get West Coast weed out there. 1.00

01:35:34.000 No, no, no.

01:35:35.000 I'm not even saying that.

01:35:36.000 West Coast weed.

01:35:37.000 There's a lot of great West Coast indica.

01:35:39.000 What I'm saying is you don't get too much sativa.

01:35:42.000 And the indica is great.

01:35:44.000 It's hard to get.

01:35:45.000 It's harder to get.

01:35:46.000 And it's hard to know for sure that the guy who's selling to you is legit.

01:35:52.000 Whereas I can go to a dispensary and just walk into a place and they have the exact strength.

01:35:57.000 Still can where I live, dude.

01:35:58.000 dude I don't live in LA it takes it takes the violence out of it we're taking the violence out of the drug trade by doing that you're taking the creepy people out we're taking we're putting tax on something you're making money so it's an American pastime half the founding fathers were high they were probably high when they were writing the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution Yeah, I hope they were.

01:36:19.000 It would have been a better piece of literature.

01:36:21.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:36:22.000 That's probably why it's so good. 1.00

01:36:23.000 They were high as fuck when they were gay. 1.00

01:36:24.000 They were high as shit, like, yo, what should we do? 1.00

01:36:25.000 What should we do? 1.00

01:36:26.000 And then the assholes among them were like, hey, let's put in all men should be free, and then let's just have slavery instead. 1.00

01:36:33.000 Like, fuck it. 1.00

01:36:34.000 Well, it's amazing that we haven't written a new one. 1.00

01:36:36.000 How about we get together and decide, as a fucking race, what's the best thing we could do for the race? 0.93

01:36:42.000 And we should have all of our guidelines and everything agreed upon by the intelligent people of the world. 0.98

01:36:48.000 We should have it not based on who's in power and who's in control and can they manipulate that and make money.

01:36:54.000 All of our rules or how society is done should be for the betterment of improving our society.

01:36:59.000 But it's not. 0.95

01:37:00.000 It's not because there's cunts in power. 1.00

01:37:02.000 They're not sacrificing themselves and their own pleasure and their own profit in order to help you and aid you. 0.89

01:37:08.000 They've got to look at it as if everybody is you living another life.

01:37:12.000 We can teach them to do that.

01:37:14.000 Or even in terms of getting a profit.

01:37:17.000 Nowadays, what is that?

01:37:18.000 It's a digital salary.

01:37:19.000 It's a bunch of numbers and a computer. 1.00

01:37:21.000 Or I need a sack of gold and a fucking deer's balls. 1.00

01:37:25.000 A deer ball sack with gold coins in it, you motherfucker. 1.00

01:37:28.000 I told him when I was coming here, I was like, yo, man, I hope that this motherfucker don't do nothing crazy. 1.00

01:37:33.000 Like what? 1.00

01:37:33.000 No pull out no elk penis, no fucking crazy fear factor shit. 1.00

01:37:37.000 Silly, silly. 1.00

01:37:38.000 No fear factor ass shit. 1.00

01:37:40.000 People always say that. 1.00

01:37:41.000 You got any bugs on you?

01:37:42.000 Hey, Mardo, who do you think killed Biggie? 1.00

01:37:44.000 Oh man, that's crazy.

01:37:46.000 How dare you, Brian?

01:37:47.000 Why?

01:37:48.000 How dare you stir up an East Coast, West Coast?

01:37:50.000 No, no, no.

01:37:51.000 You know what's funny?

01:37:52.000 I have a lot of support on the East Coast because that's where I'm from, but this is probably one of the places in LA where I could do a bigger show than I could in New York.

01:38:03.000 I think it's just because New York is like 10 cities put together and LA is like 20 cities put together.

01:38:08.000 Well, it's also they probably appreciate you more where you're not at all the time.

01:38:12.000 You know, it's just natural.

01:38:13.000 You know, if you're used to doing shows in New York, everybody's like, oh, moral technique, he's here all the time.

01:38:18.000 He's here all the time. 0.98

01:38:19.000 But when you get out to L.A., they're like, oh, shit, he's here. 0.99

01:38:21.000 But I have a lot of family. 0.99

01:38:22.000 I'm always out here.

01:38:23.000 You've become notorious and famous, and everything you've achieved is pretty much through the Internet.

01:38:29.000 Yeah.

01:38:29.000 A lot of it, yeah, but I think in the very beginning it had to do with me going to specific places and not just playing the big towns, but playing all the small places around it.

01:38:39.000 So you think you built it up like a sort of a grassroots thing and then it picked up through the internet?

01:38:44.000 I learned this business from not only from people who were involved in it, but also like in terms of performers, but I also learned a business from a lot of We had to kill Biggie for a reason.

01:39:12.000 If an old Jewish dude said, young brother, I'm like, oh, you're trying to let me off, son.

01:39:16.000 What's going on here?

01:39:17.000 They were very, very...

01:39:18.000 And these are friends of the family, so it's not like they're sitting here playing a game with me.

01:39:21.000 They're just being very honest.

01:39:22.000 They're like, look, in the 1930s and 40s...

01:39:27.000 People who are African American didn't have the opportunity to petition in court.

01:39:31.000 I mean, you didn't even have civil rights. 0.65

01:39:33.000 So when you're dealing with people who are trying to rob you and jerk you in terms of these promoters, they needed some muscle for their hustle.

01:39:39.000 So it's different for them to be like, hey man, can I have my money please?

01:39:43.000 Or it like... 0.98

01:39:45.000 You owe Louis Armstrong like $60,000 and you're gonna give me and Avi over here an extra 10 for coming down here and having to fuck you up or you're not gonna have any legs in a little while. 0.99

01:39:55.000 Who the fuck are you gonna call? 1.00

01:39:56.000 The cops? 0.99

01:39:56.000 That's what they used to have to do in the music business. 0.99

01:39:58.000 It was about getting money from the people that owned the theaters.

01:40:01.000 Getting money from individuals, shaking people down, getting every last dollar that they could.

01:40:05.000 That's why the business is run like a hustle. 1.00

01:40:08.000 It's run on some gangster shit. 0.99

01:40:09.000 If you look at the contract, for example, the one that used to be prevalent rather than the 360 deal, you have a point system where you're basically given 10, 15 points, which technically means you get 10 cents off of every dollar that comes in. 0.99

01:40:23.000 So points is a percent, essentially.

01:40:26.000 The stuff you pay back in terms of the loan doesn't come out of the gross.

01:40:32.000 It doesn't even come out of the net.

01:40:34.000 It comes out of that 10%. 1.00

01:40:36.000 It's the most gangster shit in the world. 1.00

01:40:38.000 It's a way that you keep people in perpetual servitude. 1.00

01:40:40.000 Out of that 10% comes all of the travel expenses.

01:40:44.000 Marketing, traveling, pressing up. 0.89

01:40:46.000 Wow, that's ridiculous.

01:40:47.000 The amount of... 0.97

01:40:50.000 Not evenly distributed between everybody.

01:40:52.000 Right, exactly.

01:40:53.000 Only goes to the artist.

01:40:54.000 So I think to me it wasn't just that, but they also told me, listen, if you want to survive and have longevity in this game, then do it the old school rock and roll way.

01:41:02.000 Forget this mixtape craze that was hitting during the mid-2000s.

01:41:07.000 They said what you need to do is tour, tour, tour, tour, non-stop, go everywhere, never turn down a show.

01:41:14.000 Where did you start this off?

01:41:16.000 Where did you start doing rap?

01:41:19.000 I mean, I could rhyme ever since I was about nine years old, but I didn't really take it seriously in terms of trying to put things together.

01:41:26.000 I could rhyme when I was five. 0.97

01:41:27.000 I did some Dr. Seuss type shit. 1.00

01:41:30.000 Let bitches know. 1.00

01:41:31.000 No, but when I was young, I tried to write little songs or little verses. 0.98

01:41:36.000 And then I think when I got out of prison, I decided, you know what?

01:41:40.000 I'm going to take all these songs that I wrote while I was incarcerated And I'm going to really record them and I'm going to put them down.

01:41:46.000 I'm going to find instrumentals.

01:41:48.000 And I went about it and I started winning a lot of these MC battles.

01:41:51.000 They still have them on now.

01:41:52.000 They have some companies that run them, Smack and KOTD. You know what's funny, man?

01:41:57.000 When dudes lose their head and punch the other guy. 1.00

01:41:59.000 Have you seen some of that shit? 1.00

01:42:00.000 I know a lot of people that have done things like that. 1.00

01:42:03.000 We shun those things in New York now. 0.96

01:42:07.000 Well, it's ridiculous. 0.92

01:42:07.000 We built a strong empire. 0.92

01:42:08.000 You're a weak bitch. 1.00

01:42:09.000 If you sucker punch a guy while a guy's going off on you, you're a weak bitch. 1.00

01:42:12.000 You can't handle your emotions. 1.00

01:42:13.000 Or if somebody's getting in your face, literally touching your face.

01:42:16.000 You've crossed the line, homie. 1.00

01:42:18.000 That's true, but there is some shit that someone could say. 0.99

01:42:22.000 That they deserve to get cracked. 0.99

01:42:23.000 Like, if someone's talking shit about your mother or, you know, or especially someone in your family that has died. 0.99

01:42:29.000 But this is the whole point. 0.99

01:42:29.000 In the battle scene now, there's nothing that's off limits. 0.99

01:42:32.000 Yeah, but you should be. 0.53

01:42:34.000 Because the dude's going to punch you. 1.00

01:42:36.000 You're talking like his mom dies and you talk some shit about his mom. 1.00

01:42:39.000 Joe, this is the difference between how it is now and how it was back in the day. 0.99

01:42:42.000 When I was around still doing these battles in the late 90s, So in the old days it was more real.

01:43:06.000 Yes.

01:43:07.000 You said you were going to murder someone. 1.00

01:43:08.000 They might fucking shoot you when you're off in your car. 0.99

01:43:10.000 If you were all here in a big cypher back in like 1997 or something and someone tried to jump in the cypher, somebody would test that person. 1.00

01:43:19.000 Like, what the fuck are you doing here?

01:43:20.000 And start battling them. 0.99

01:43:22.000 And whether or not they were successful or even held their own in the battle, they could stay in the cypher.

01:43:27.000 It was more exclusive. 0.83

01:43:28.000 People booed the shit out of you before and were not scared to... 0.90

01:43:32.000 Whereas now they're like, oh yeah, well he tried, you know, no. 1.00

01:43:35.000 Fuck you, get off stage. 1.00

01:43:37.000 New York was just the worst. 1.00

01:43:38.000 Have you ever heard of Pete Spratt?

01:43:40.000 Do you know who Pete Spratt is?

01:43:41.000 That name is familiar.

01:43:42.000 He's a badass rapper who's also a badass mixed martial arts fighter.

01:43:46.000 Oh yeah?

01:43:47.000 Yeah, he fought in the UFC a few times.

01:43:49.000 He's fought in MFC, fought in... 0.91

01:43:52.000 A bunch of different organizations, but he's a sick Muay Thai fighter.

01:43:56.000 He's a badass kickboxer.

01:43:58.000 Very, very dangerous dude, but he's also a rapper.

01:44:01.000 He's a rapper. 1.00

01:44:01.000 Yeah, he's like, the last dude that you want to talk shit to in a fucking rap battle is Pete Spratt. 1.00

01:44:08.000 That motherfucker will leg kick you into oblivion. 1.00

01:44:10.000 I found her old rap battle. 1.00

01:44:13.000 Of you?

01:44:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:44:17.000 You ever seen her at your high school science fair?

01:44:21.000 The only way you win this battle is if I let you.

01:44:23.000 You look like Captain Crunch's all-away nephew.

01:44:28.000 That's crazy.

01:44:28.000 Now when you're doing this, is it all like ad-libbing?

01:44:31.000 Yeah, it's pretty much freestyling, you know what I mean? 0.98

01:44:33.000 Do you have shit that you like go to, like go-to things? 0.85

01:44:36.000 I think every rapper has an emergency line, but back in the day it really was really, really like very spontaneous. 0.99

01:44:43.000 It was off the top of the head.

01:44:44.000 As they refer to it, freestyling off the top of the head.

01:44:48.000 I think and then I think at some point nowadays all the battle rap that we see now Joe is all very much choreographed like in other words you and I it's it's run more the way the UFC would be where you and I know our opponent months ahead of time we train for his style I see you and I say you know what his style is to find angles and personal lines about people I know what his weaknesses are I need to find it whereas back in the day you would come in a room and the The wall would just be wall-to-wall MCs,

01:45:16.000 and they would call two people to come in the middle that didn't even know each other.

01:45:20.000 And then, like you said before, you were at war with a stranger.

01:45:23.000 I don't know you.

01:45:24.000 I could settle battle rapping in ten minutes.

01:45:28.000 Settle it all.

01:45:29.000 Jiu-jitsu.

01:45:30.000 Stop. 1.00

01:45:31.000 Shut your mouth. 1.00

01:45:32.000 Lay down some mats. 1.00

01:45:33.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:45:34.000 Get in your pair of shorts. 1.00

01:45:36.000 Put a t-shirt on.

01:45:37.000 Ready? 0.99

01:45:37.000 Try to kill each other. 0.99

01:45:39.000 Shut up. 1.00

01:45:40.000 But that's the whole point. 1.00

01:45:41.000 It's a war of words.

01:45:43.000 You know what I mean?

01:45:43.000 Yeah, but it's more of insults.

01:45:46.000 It's a war of personal insults.

01:45:48.000 At some point, I think if you don't make the insults clever and there's no technique to them and there's no metaphor, then it becomes anything.

01:45:55.000 Right.

01:45:55.000 You and anybody else could have a slugfest in the street, and eventually somebody's going to win.

01:46:01.000 But if there's no technique, there's no style to it.

01:46:03.000 But you know what?

01:46:03.000 You can stop that just in your raps, period.

01:46:06.000 Isn't it better to do that than to do it in some sort of a fucking silly battle situation where you're insulting each other?

01:46:12.000 I think, to me, battling is something that refined, and the way that I did rap, and just to clarify, there's a big difference between the way it was and the way it is now, Joe. 0.87

01:46:23.000 The way it was was that the winner got to come back and perform at the next one.

01:46:28.000 Oh, so there was something to it.

01:46:30.000 You had to win two battles.

01:46:31.000 The first one was against your opponents, and there would be several in the same night.

01:46:35.000 And then you got to come back and perform a rap.

01:46:39.000 So you had to prove yourself twice.

01:46:41.000 The first time was against the other opponents, and the other one was against the crowd.

01:46:45.000 And nowadays, what's been taken out of it, Joe, is that advancement of somebody's career.

01:46:49.000 That work that puts in that says, you know what, not only did you come here and prove yourself in terms of your insulting ability, But now, I have to see, can you really write songs?

01:46:59.000 Is all you can do battle? 1.00

01:47:02.000 Because if that's all you can do, then step to the left, motherfucker. 0.98

01:47:04.000 So someone that really has an opportunity to shine and worked on music can be in this position and show that to the crowd. 0.98

01:47:10.000 There are dudes that only have a battle rap game.

01:47:13.000 They don't have a rap game.

01:47:14.000 I mean, I threw a personal battle, which there were two winners.

01:47:18.000 There was a guy called Nestle and A-Class.

01:47:20.000 Big shout out to them.

01:47:21.000 And what their battle was was for the opportunity, and they're going to have it now, to open up for a short tour that I'm going to do, like a spot day tour for the Middle Passage.

01:47:31.000 So in that respect, yeah, they have to win a battle against one another, and then the prize is I have to now prove myself in front of this audience.

01:47:39.000 I have to show them my work, and I have to show them that I'm more than just a battle rapper.

01:47:43.000 That's the biggest battle for me for any battle rapper to win.

01:47:46.000 To actually become a real rapper.

01:47:48.000 Right, to prove, you know what, I'm more than just a funny guy who can come up with insults.

01:47:53.000 Similar to the way comedians struggle to get a show or they struggle to get a tour.

01:47:57.000 Well, the actual correlation is comedians that work the crowd.

01:48:00.000 Right.

01:48:00.000 Comedians that work the crowd versus comedians that tell jokes.

01:48:03.000 Because there's some guys, there's an art to making spontaneous humor up.

01:48:07.000 And where are you from, sir? 0.99

01:48:08.000 And, you know, fucking around with people in the crowd. 1.00

01:48:10.000 There's an art to that. 0.98

01:48:11.000 But there's a lot of dudes that get good at that, and they can never turn it into a bit.

01:48:16.000 They can never just go up there and, without interacting with people, say, this is my thoughts on things, and have it be funny.

01:48:21.000 They just can't do it.

01:48:23.000 They don't develop that skill.

01:48:24.000 So they just steal material from other people?

01:48:26.000 No, that's another thing.

01:48:27.000 But we know a dude that's a funny guy, and he doesn't do any real comedy.

01:48:33.000 He just talks to people.

01:48:34.000 I mean, if he can't talk...

01:48:36.000 But the crazy thing is you can't do that if you're doing 2,000 people and you're 10 feet in the air and they're way down at the bottom.

01:48:41.000 You gotta have some bits.

01:48:43.000 I think that analogy is pretty on spot because if you're not battling somebody, there's nobody in front of you.

01:48:49.000 You gotta be able to make it up on your own. 0.99

01:48:52.000 It's like, what if you're that comedian that doesn't have that one person in the crowd that came with a stupid hat? 1.00

01:48:57.000 And you can't make fun of nobody no more. 0.98

01:49:00.000 Now you have to come up with something original, an idea that's all your own, that you own, that you put down, which is technically what you do when you make a song.

01:49:08.000 Well, a lot of them actually do.

01:49:09.000 What they do is they fake that they're talking to the crowd.

01:49:12.000 They are talking to the crowd, but they have like, you know, this guy says he's a fireman. 1.00

01:49:16.000 I got some go-to shit for that. 0.99

01:49:18.000 You know, if you're from Chicago, I know what to say there. 1.00

01:49:21.000 You know, they have like a bunch of shit that they can go to. 0.99

01:49:24.000 They're just like plugging it into the audience. 0.99

01:49:26.000 And because it seems so spontaneous, it actually seems funnier.

01:49:29.000 It's like a little trick. 0.99

01:49:30.000 It's good to fuck around with the crowd sometimes. 0.99

01:49:32.000 I actually don't mind a little bit of it every now and then. 0.99

01:49:35.000 But there's a big difference between the kind of work that's involved in just ad-libbing on the fly and actually writing some shit and making it a bit. 0.57

01:49:44.000 Some people can't do both.

01:49:46.000 They can't make that transition.

01:49:48.000 So that's like, I guess, like a battle rapper who can't be a real rapper.

01:49:52.000 To me, me and my brother, Poison Pen, I'm helping him right now in terms of with some sponsorships and whatnot, but mostly it's just been him.

01:50:02.000 That's been resurrecting a lot of these scenes.

01:50:04.000 He's a very humble dude, my brother Poison Penn.

01:50:06.000 He doesn't like to say that he came out and invented the idea of having pay-per-view battle rap.

01:50:11.000 He doesn't like to say that if somebody wants to come and battle in New York, that he'll guarantee their safety to make sure nobody will touch him.

01:50:18.000 And they'll tell all the other goons, yo, listen, he's here to battle.

01:50:21.000 You put a finger on him, you're going to have to answer to me and everybody else in the squad.

01:50:25.000 And they already know what it is. 0.99

01:50:27.000 So nobody comes over here and gets their ass kicked. 1.00

01:50:29.000 Unless they really fuck up. 1.00

01:50:31.000 You really have to be a real fuck up. 1.00

01:50:33.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

01:50:33.000 We guarantee people's safety in New York because it's good for them to be here. 0.99

01:50:37.000 We want people to come to New York to battle.

01:50:38.000 Imagine if there was comedy clubs where you had to guarantee people's safety.

01:50:41.000 Yo, you got to, man.

01:50:42.000 You got to guarantee their safety in order to do stand-up. 1.00

01:50:44.000 Holy shit. 0.99

01:50:45.000 There's a little bit more of a street element, I think, involved in battle rap. 0.99

01:50:51.000 A little more? 1.00

01:50:53.000 A little more shit. 1.00

01:50:55.000 Just a tiny bit more. 1.00

01:50:55.000 Quite a bit more. 1.00

01:50:56.000 But I think you'll find that there's a diverse amount of people that are battling.

01:51:02.000 Like a diverse group of people now that are battling as opposed to it just being two people talking about guns from the same neighborhood.

01:51:09.000 Right.

01:51:09.000 You have Asian, Latino, Jewish, white, Muslim.

01:51:13.000 How much swiping goes on when dudes swipe dudes raps? 1.00

01:51:19.000 How much biting material? 1.00

01:51:21.000 A lot of shit, huh? 1.00

01:51:23.000 There's some biters out there, Joe. 1.00

01:51:25.000 There's some biters out there. 1.00

01:51:34.000 There's some people who can't find a style of their own or they don't have anything going for them.

01:51:39.000 You know what? 1.00

01:51:40.000 Those people are fucking themselves. 1.00

01:51:42.000 Leech off this nigga. 1.00

01:51:43.000 And they're fucking themselves, really, because you don't know how good it feels to write some shit. 1.00

01:51:47.000 You know, when I write some shit and perform, I'm like, woo! 1.00

01:51:50.000 That just came to me from the universe. 0.99

01:51:51.000 The universe told me that I'm doing the right thing, so it gave me some inspiration.

01:51:55.000 It gave me an idea.

01:51:56.000 I put in the work, and I got a result, and it just feels tremendous.

01:51:59.000 They don't get that.

01:52:00.000 They don't get that feeling. 1.00

01:52:01.000 So it's like this hollow, empty, whore-like, hole feeling. 1.00

01:52:05.000 You know, fill the hole, and then... 0.99

01:52:07.000 And fill the hole, and then...

01:52:09.000 They're not really creating anything.

01:52:11.000 It's fairly fascinating.

01:52:12.000 It's kind of a fascinating way to live life.

01:52:14.000 It's got to be a weird, hollow, empty feeling.

01:52:17.000 But you know, in the same respect, when comedy has ghostwriters, for example...

01:52:21.000 But that's different.

01:52:22.000 That's a job.

01:52:23.000 When a guy puts together...

01:52:24.000 I know some great comics who do that.

01:52:26.000 But there are people in battle rap, and there are people in rap period, who have plenty of ghostwriters as well.

01:52:31.000 And I'm wondering, does that take away from...

01:52:34.000 But that's the interesting thing.

01:52:36.000 To you it doesn't, because in the culture of comedy, where you have somebody like a Paul Mooney who wrote for Richard Pryor, where you have somebody like maybe a Jeff Ross who now writes for this person, that's seen as, okay, that's acceptable, that's great.

01:52:51.000 Well, even like the greats, like Chris Rock.

01:52:54.000 Chris Rock used Nick DiPaolo and Rich Voss, rather.

01:52:59.000 Well, they're funny comics.

01:53:01.000 They're great comics.

01:53:02.000 And if people bounce ideas off each other...

01:53:03.000 Bounce ideas off and it helps ideas.

01:53:05.000 I think in hip-hop, though, I think that's looked down upon a lot more than it is anywhere else.

01:53:10.000 It's the kind of elephant in the room that people...

01:53:14.000 Don't accept.

01:53:15.000 Well, there's a lot of people in comedy that don't accept it either.

01:53:17.000 Like, guys like Louis C.K. writes his own shit every year. 1.00

01:53:21.000 Every year he writes his own new hour. 1.00

01:53:23.000 Every year.

01:53:24.000 And he's one of the rare guys that does it.

01:53:25.000 And not only does it, he does it while he's actually doing a television show, too, that he also edits and produces. 0.95

01:53:30.000 He's a maniac. 1.00

01:53:31.000 I don't know how the fuck he does it. 1.00

01:53:32.000 It's really incredible. 1.00

01:53:33.000 He's on a mouthful pill. 1.00

01:53:35.000 No, he's basically obsessed with doing great shit. 1.00

01:53:38.000 And the results have been so spectacular. 0.99

01:53:40.000 He's just continuing on that...

01:53:43.000 It's amazing.

01:53:44.000 Shout out to Louie because that's what I do.

01:53:47.000 I write all my own rhymes.

01:53:49.000 Nobody come up in there and says, hey, you should rap to this beat or you should rhyme about that.

01:53:54.000 Joey Diaz does that.

01:53:55.000 I do that.

01:53:56.000 I don't really accept ideas from people. 0.92

01:53:59.000 But that's because I have my own shit I'm trying to work out already. 0.86

01:54:01.000 It's not that their ideas aren't great. 0.99

01:54:03.000 It's just at a certain point in time, I like to have it all come from my head.

01:54:07.000 And there's a difference in between taking something that's kind of half done and bouncing it off people you respect and being like, you know what?

01:54:14.000 This is half done.

01:54:15.000 Write the rest of it for me.

01:54:16.000 I'll be back later.

01:54:17.000 Some comics give each other taglines, too.

01:54:19.000 That's one thing that's really cool that I really like doing.

01:54:21.000 I like doing that for someone who comes off stage and you're like, what if you said this at the end? 0.99

01:54:25.000 I'm like, oh shit. 0.99

01:54:26.000 It's fun. 0.98

01:54:27.000 And then when you do it, it's cool because if somebody gives you a tagline and then you do it, it's like a shout out to your friend every time you're on stage.

01:54:34.000 It's kind of cool.

01:54:35.000 I don't even remember the bit, but somebody gave me a great tagline once.

01:54:38.000 And I would always think about them every time I'd say it.

01:54:40.000 They're like, it's my friend.

01:54:41.000 Hook my bit up with a little extra punch.

01:54:44.000 A little extra thing.

01:54:45.000 That's a thing that comics would do for each other.

01:54:47.000 Do rappers write raps for each other?

01:54:49.000 Yeah, all the time.

01:54:51.000 Like if someone hears you doing a rap and then says, oh, did you know that that rhymes with booty?

01:54:57.000 No, no, I think it's more like that.

01:54:58.000 I think it's more like, for example, if you're signed to a major and you wrote a song and they like it, they can take your song since they own your intellectual property and you're signed to them and they can give it to someone else.

01:55:10.000 Being like, oh yeah, you wrote this song for you, for like JR, whatever, and we're going to give it to this rapper.

01:55:17.000 It's funny that they used to be valid.

01:55:19.000 That was like a real business.

01:55:21.000 It's like when you look at what a record label is now, you talk about something that's been diminished.

01:55:26.000 It's them and the porn industry have been the most diminished.

01:55:30.000 Because of the internet? 1.00

01:55:32.000 Fuck yeah. 0.99

01:55:33.000 All of a sudden, you have digital versions of everything you do. 1.00

01:55:36.000 You don't need to go to a seedy store where you might brush elbows with somebody in a trench coat buying a... 0.98

01:55:45.000 A cum baby cum number seven. 0.98

01:55:47.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:55:48.000 Some crazy shit. 1.00

01:55:50.000 Some bukkake flick in a sick park. 1.00

01:55:53.000 And also, I think those places were embarrassing because you knew who was watching what kind of shit, but what kind of aisle they were in. 1.00

01:56:00.000 If you would walk by, you were like, oh, you're in the German shit crazy section. 1.00

01:56:09.000 Get the fuck out of here, dude. 1.00

01:56:11.000 Yeah, you don't want to hang out with that guy anymore. 1.00

01:56:13.000 Even if it's like his own private thing. 1.00

01:56:15.000 It's like you're into shit porn then. 0.99

01:56:16.000 I've never went to that kind of place with anybody. 1.00

01:56:19.000 That business got destroyed.

01:56:20.000 That business and the music business.

01:56:22.000 It used to be like the only way to get famous was you had to get on the radio.

01:56:25.000 But now the internet has really completely bypassed that.

01:56:29.000 Because the radio only works when you listen to the radio.

01:56:34.000 The internet is a part of everything.

01:56:35.000 Everything.

01:56:36.000 It's getting so weird, man. 0.70

01:56:38.000 My Twitter is so strange to me because I'm finding out more shit through my Twitter, through people sending me things about the latest discoveries, about Egyptian boats that they found from, you know, oh, they believe they found Atlantis and there's a new discovery. 0.93

01:56:52.000 Gorillas have figured out how to, you know, stop traps and And disarm traps. 0.98

01:56:58.000 It's like a constant barrage of insane shit and information you're getting from people all day long. 0.99

01:57:05.000 This is so new to humanity. 0.99

01:57:07.000 We're not even sure the effects this is going to have on human beings just in the next 10 or 20 years.

01:57:13.000 What people are going to be like with this incredible access to information.

01:57:17.000 Battering us with the reality.

01:57:19.000 I put it on the song we opened up the show with.

01:57:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:57:23.000 To those, you know what I mean, that have become socially autistic. 0.98

01:57:27.000 Is that where society is heading now? 0.70

01:57:29.000 I don't need to interact with you if I don't want to.

01:57:31.000 I'm here because that's the type of dude I am.

01:57:33.000 I'll come to the show.

01:57:34.000 But everyone seems to be able to want to call into life.

01:57:38.000 You know what I mean?

01:57:39.000 You meet more people on the internet than you're going to meet in real life.

01:57:42.000 You know what I mean?

01:57:43.000 Of course, yeah.

01:57:44.000 You would never have the opportunity to meet hundreds of new people instantly.

01:57:47.000 Right.

01:57:48.000 Or you have...

01:57:50.000 Access to information or, you know, you don't send letters no more.

01:57:53.000 You send an email, you know what I mean?

01:57:54.000 You don't call nobody no more.

01:57:56.000 You Skype with them, you know what I mean?

01:57:57.000 In some ways, there's benefits to that.

01:57:59.000 It creates the ability to communicate with people.

01:58:02.000 But what kind of communication?

01:58:04.000 Because I've known individuals to severely misconstrue a text or an email before that they can't get from a person.

01:58:10.000 Like, I look at you, there's something about the way you stand that tells me what your intentions are, the way you move in.

01:58:17.000 I think even in race relations this works because people who have been exposed to different races or different cultures of people, they look and see, okay, someone's rolling up walking down the street.

01:58:29.000 He's not a criminal. 0.99

01:58:31.000 He looks like this motherfucker's lost. 1.00

01:58:32.000 I would be like, yo, man. 0.99

01:58:34.000 You know, the highways around the corner, as opposed to being like, oh, because they're from here, they're probably planning this or that, rather than looking at their actual actions or stance.

01:58:42.000 Like, in terms of a regular conversation, your tone of voice, you know what I mean?

01:58:48.000 It's missing in text.

01:58:49.000 Well, again, you know, people have to treat everybody else as if it was you living another life.

01:58:53.000 Then you wouldn't have to worry.

01:58:54.000 Really, this guy's cool. 0.99

01:58:55.000 It's cunts. 0.99

01:58:56.000 It's cunts. 1.00

01:58:56.000 That's the problem, goddammit. 1.00

01:58:58.000 As I said, that needs to be our new motto. 0.99

01:59:00.000 We're America and we're not cunts. 0.71

01:59:02.000 And everything we do that's cunty, go stop doing it. 1.00

01:59:05.000 That's cunty shit, man. 1.00

01:59:07.000 I mean, unless people are making billions of dollars off of it. 1.00

01:59:09.000 Gotta stop, you know, if you lose a billion dollars a year and you don't have to be a cunt, wouldn't you be happier? 1.00

01:59:16.000 Wouldn't you be happier doing your business, making half as much, having a 1,000 foot yacht instead of a 2,000 foot yacht, not victimizing the world? 0.98

01:59:25.000 I think that's where American capitalism has the spotlight on it.

01:59:29.000 Because let's say you and me have a company that averages, you know, Around $12 billion a year of gross revenue sales.

01:59:37.000 We're a success.

01:59:38.000 But then the next year, and every year we keep getting a little bit bigger, $12 billion. 0.99

01:59:42.000 But then you get into math and you spend all your money on hookers. 1.00

01:59:45.000 No, no, no. 0.85

01:59:46.000 I'm just saying, one year imagine we make $11 billion.

01:59:51.000 Not even gross.

01:59:52.000 We're talking about net right now.

01:59:53.000 We make $11 billion profit.

01:59:56.000 What are we doing?

01:59:56.000 Are we selling anything?

01:59:57.000 It doesn't matter.

01:59:58.000 The point being, Joe, is to a lot of people in the business community and to the model of business, we're a failure now.

02:00:08.000 We're downsizing.

02:00:09.000 We're not going up from 12.5 billion to 13. Now we're back to 11. People are like, oh, this business is on the decline.

02:00:16.000 We just made 11 billion dollars!

02:00:18.000 That's just how they think, you know what I mean?

02:00:20.000 If you're not always expanding, if you're not buying new people, if you're not buying new resources, if you haven't obtained a good rapport with a government that makes, you know, labor laws very, very simple for you to deal with, then you're a failure.

02:00:36.000 And I think that's what needs to change too, in order for people to see themselves and other individuals.

02:00:41.000 Yeah, there's gonna be some karma-free ways to do things, you know?

02:00:46.000 And I've always said, like, we need to figure out a karma-free iPhone. 0.98

02:00:49.000 When you find out what's really involved in getting the minerals to make iPhones, you're like, well, this is fucked up. 0.59

02:00:54.000 There may very well be some children in the Congo who are scraping the mountains for minerals that goes into your iPhone. 1.00

02:01:00.000 Like, there's gotta be a way around that.

02:01:02.000 Is there a way around that?

02:01:03.000 How much would you be willing to pay for an iPhone that's not manufactured? 0.99

02:01:09.000 I mean, these places where they have nets set up in between buildings because so many fucking employees have committed suicide. 0.98

02:01:16.000 They've actually done this. 0.97

02:01:17.000 And people say, well, actually, the amount of people that commit suicide in these places, it's very similar to the amount of people that commit suicide in real life.

02:01:23.000 Well, you know what the difference is?

02:01:25.000 That's not real life.

02:01:26.000 That's their job. 1.00

02:01:27.000 How many fucking people commit suicide at work? 1.00

02:01:30.000 We want to talk about despair. 1.00

02:01:32.000 They're living in crazy dormitories and they're jumping off the roof into concrete to end it.

02:01:37.000 Well, I mean, they're in a dorm that's basically...

02:01:40.000 The idea that there would be anything okay with that is crazy.

02:01:44.000 I'm not criticizing...

02:01:46.000 China? 0.73

02:01:46.000 The whole China. 0.73

02:01:48.000 But I'm saying, look, if you don't like prison here...

02:01:52.000 You don't like the legal system here.

02:01:54.000 You're really not gonna like it in China.

02:01:56.000 You know what I mean?

02:01:57.000 We're talking about a government that is very authoritarian.

02:02:00.000 Something that the US, I think, really kind of envies. 0.98

02:02:03.000 The ability for them to just tell people to shut the fuck up about things.

02:02:06.000 Like, listen, dude, we're doing all... 0.97

02:02:08.000 Oh, you're gonna complain? 1.00

02:02:11.000 Shut up. 1.00

02:02:11.000 Now. 1.00

02:02:12.000 The button's been pressed and everyone shuts up.

02:02:14.000 You know what I mean?

02:02:15.000 Olympics are here.

02:02:16.000 Take dog off the menu everywhere.

02:02:17.000 I don't want to see it because these people from Europe and America, that's their best friend.

02:02:21.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

02:02:22.000 You might shoot a nigga, you won't go to jail. 1.00

02:02:24.000 You fuck with a dog, that's the white man's best friend. 1.00

02:02:26.000 You're going to jail, dude. 1.00

02:02:27.000 They made them niggas. 1.00

02:02:29.000 They found all these different species of dogs.

02:02:30.000 And in Germany and all these other places during the Middle Ages, they bred them to be what they are today. 0.99

02:02:35.000 And the Chinese people ate the fuck out of them. 1.00

02:02:37.000 And then someone decided that they tasted really good. 0.98

02:02:39.000 I bet they do.

02:02:40.000 I don't know.

02:02:41.000 I've had rabbit.

02:02:42.000 I've never had...

02:02:43.000 Rabbit's delicious.

02:02:44.000 I've never had dog, no.

02:02:45.000 Don't tell Eddie Bravo, though.

02:02:46.000 He'll go crazy.

02:02:48.000 Eddie Bravo loves rabbits.

02:02:52.000 It's all good.

02:02:52.000 Everybody picks their animals.

02:02:53.000 Me, I'm a dog, man.

02:02:54.000 But I'm just saying, to me, if we're at a point where society is just unwilling to move, then what's the only thing that can rectify that?

02:03:06.000 A cataclysm, do you think?

02:03:07.000 No.

02:03:07.000 The only thing that can rectify it is information.

02:03:10.000 People have to change. 1.00

02:03:11.000 You have to change who the fuck you are. 1.00

02:03:12.000 If you're a person that's part of the problem and you're aware that you're part of the problem, you've got to find a path away from that. 1.00

02:03:17.000 The real problem is you get addicted to life.

02:03:19.000 You get caught up in a system where you have a mortgage, and you have car payments, and you have credit card bills, and you have the, you know, this is for gas, this is for food, this is for...

02:03:27.000 And you have these numbers that you have to achieve on a regular basis.

02:03:29.000 So there's almost no way you can detach yourself from the system and then start off in some new path.

02:03:36.000 It's like you need constant income.

02:03:38.000 If you have a family, you need constant income.

02:03:40.000 If you have a mortgage, you need constant income.

02:03:42.000 And that's how most of us are stuck.

02:03:45.000 Most of us are stuck because we sort of got on some sort of a path and then we became involved in the system due to financial necessity.

02:03:52.000 It's like, no, I mean, you're not going to go homeless. 0.95

02:03:54.000 You're not going to have your fucking kids be poor just because you have a dream of trying to make it as an author. 0.97

02:03:59.000 You're going to have to find a way to do both of them at the same time. 0.99

02:04:02.000 You're going to have to find a way to work around it.

02:04:04.000 You can't just detach yourself from the system.

02:04:07.000 That's why so many people have a hard time changing.

02:04:09.000 Yeah, that's why so many people have a hard time changing, is they don't have the time for reflection.

02:04:13.000 And when people are caught up in any sort of fanatical pursuit, especially financial fanatical pursuit, It becomes about ones and zeros.

02:04:22.000 It becomes about numbers.

02:04:23.000 It becomes about adding zeros to the ledger.

02:04:26.000 It doesn't become about your own personal growth and you as a human being trying to find yourself in a better place in this world.

02:04:33.000 It doesn't become about that.

02:04:34.000 That's the real issue.

02:04:35.000 The real issue is the numbers trick you into thinking that they're real.

02:04:39.000 Instead of thinking that...

02:04:40.000 Because they are real.

02:04:41.000 You can get things from them.

02:04:42.000 Real things like a house that you can knock on.

02:04:44.000 You can get a car.

02:04:44.000 You can knock on that car.

02:04:46.000 It's a real car.

02:04:46.000 So there is something real that you get from it.

02:04:49.000 But essentially, we've decided that you can get those things for money.

02:04:55.000 We've decided that.

02:04:56.000 We've all decided that.

02:04:58.000 And because it's broken down to a number thing, then that becomes the grand pursuit.

02:05:05.000 The grand pursuit becomes this crazy idea that you need to...

02:05:09.000 Stockpile numbers at the expense of humanity.

02:05:12.000 And that humanity shouldn't be put at the very forefront of any of the decisions.

02:05:16.000 So all of this could have been avoided.

02:05:18.000 Everything could have been avoided if any company realized that humanity has to be first.

02:05:23.000 So if you're poisoning rivers, if you're fucking people out of land, you cannot operate like that.

02:05:29.000 There must be a humane way to progress and do business. 0.99

02:05:33.000 If it only involves littering, and it only involves polluting, and it only involves murder, well then that's ridiculous.

02:05:39.000 This shouldn't be a task that's taken forth by people.

02:05:43.000 But because of the fact that you can get ones and zeros from those things, the ones and zeros have tricked us into thinking that they are the end-all be-all.

02:05:52.000 By providing us with real things that come from the ones and zeros, they have sort of figured out a way to hijack our system.

02:05:58.000 But we have to realize that solid things don't mean shit if you don't have your humanity.

02:06:04.000 So it's not about ones and zeros.

02:06:06.000 It's about humanity first.

02:06:08.000 Then it's about should humanity engage in this pursuit? 0.93

02:06:11.000 Should humanity, you know, drill oil off the coast when it can fuck up like that and ruin millions of square miles of ocean?

02:06:21.000 People were saying there would be nothing wrong with it. 0.88

02:06:23.000 This was a perfectly...

02:06:25.000 Right, and then we find out that it was all about ones and zeros.

02:06:28.000 The reason why it happened in the first place is because the company that was building the well...

02:06:32.000 They cut a few corners because they were trying to make a deadline and they put a less effective sort of a system in place. 0.99

02:06:38.000 And then it fucking exploded and killed people and fucked up everything for a long ass time. 0.99

02:06:42.000 Why? 1.00

02:06:43.000 Because of ones and zeros, not because of humanity.

02:06:46.000 You know, it's the same thing with Fukushima.

02:06:48.000 You know, people look at this reactor failing and melting down and there's all sorts of scientific...

02:06:53.000 You know, explanations for why it all went wrong, but the bottom line is you shouldn't make something like that if you can't shut it off. 0.80

02:07:00.000 You shouldn't make something where if the power goes out, the whole place is fucked for a hundred thousand years. 0.96

02:07:06.000 That's crazy. 0.94

02:07:08.000 That's crazy, and that's a ones and zeros economic situation.

02:07:12.000 I think when you're talking about an element, though, that has been refined, we're talking about U-235.

02:07:17.000 A nuclear power?

02:07:18.000 We're talking about...

02:07:19.000 When you're talking about uranium, you're talking about plutonium, all of these elements that are...

02:07:24.000 Created by mankind, these isotopes, they're generally unstable.

02:07:28.000 They might have the same number of protons and electrons, but it's the neutrons that flow out of them.

02:07:34.000 What I always thought was interesting is, how do the neutrons know just to leave, that they're just too many, that we all just don't fit? 0.98

02:07:40.000 Neutrons don't take anybody's bullshit. 0.98

02:07:42.000 Neutrons just bounce the fuck out and it creates such an unstable element. 0.99

02:07:46.000 Is that what it is?

02:07:47.000 Even toying with that, even toying with something like that, you don't know because it doesn't have a stable physical property.

02:07:53.000 There is no shut off.

02:07:55.000 Well, that's what the nutty thing is.

02:07:56.000 There's no way to cool it off, apparently.

02:07:58.000 Yeah, they had to use whatever, water, ocean water.

02:08:03.000 Still not really cool at all. 0.97

02:08:04.000 And they don't know what the fuck is going to happen. 0.98

02:08:06.000 I mean, the whole thing is insane. 0.99

02:08:08.000 And it all happened because someone thought that they could profit from it.

02:08:12.000 They needed power.

02:08:13.000 They needed to supply all these people with power.

02:08:15.000 And that became the way to do it.

02:08:17.000 It just seems so nutty.

02:08:19.000 It seems so incredibly nutty.

02:08:21.000 But it's either that or what are you going to do?

02:08:22.000 Are you going to have coal?

02:08:23.000 Are you going to have coal factories and fuck up the environment even more? 1.00

02:08:27.000 Which one are you going to go with? 1.00

02:08:29.000 We need some electricity, bitch. 1.00

02:08:30.000 Someone needs to figure out a better way than that. 1.00

02:08:32.000 Solar energy.

02:08:34.000 But we get tripped up in these one ways.

02:08:37.000 We get tripped up.

02:08:37.000 We get caught up in this one way.

02:08:39.000 And we think that's the only way possible. 0.99

02:08:41.000 I don't know what the fuck the Egyptians did, but they did something. 0.96

02:08:44.000 They did something that allowed them to move these giant blocks of stone. 0.99

02:08:48.000 What the fuck were they doing? 0.98

02:08:49.000 What kind of power did they have? 1.00

02:08:51.000 They enslaved thousands of people and told them they were going to move that stone. 0.87

02:08:53.000 Yeah, but it doesn't matter. 0.98

02:08:54.000 Even if they did that, how the fuck did they pull it off? 0.74

02:08:57.000 Even if they had thousands of people.

02:08:58.000 But they had engineering.

02:08:59.000 I think at that particular time, what we fail to see and we fail to realize is that Look, all of the documentation that they had was lost in countless amount of wars.

02:09:09.000 It's been scattered.

02:09:09.000 Well, the libraries of Alexandria was actually burned.

02:09:12.000 They were burned down twice. 0.96

02:09:13.000 We'd lost all that information, but it still doesn't in any way answer the question, how the fuck did they do that?

02:09:20.000 Because what you're looking at is something that we can't do right now.

02:09:24.000 I mean, there's a lot of those pieces of stone.

02:09:26.000 I think we can do it right now.

02:09:27.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

02:09:27.000 Some of them were cut from a quarry that was miles away, and these motherfuckers moved these thousand-ton stone blocks away. 0.99

02:09:34.000 Like how about the Acropolis where the Parthenon is under? 0.98

02:09:37.000 It's under the Parthenon, rather. 0.97

02:09:38.000 These huge fucking stones that no one has any idea how they moved them there. 0.98

02:09:44.000 No one has any idea how old they are. 0.99

02:09:46.000 They just somehow or another, someone cut these giant stones and put them into place and you just go, what?

02:09:52.000 But I mean, when you go down to South America, you go to see the Incas, you'll see that too in Machu Picchu.

02:09:57.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:09:58.000 Perfectly as if they were cut by lasers. 0.99

02:10:01.000 How about the Puampunku and all that shit up in Peru? 0.99

02:10:05.000 It's amazing. 0.99

02:10:06.000 Or how did the heads on Easter Island get there and all that extracurricular shit? 0.99

02:10:10.000 Oh yeah, well not only that, they found out those heads aren't just heads anymore. 0.98

02:10:13.000 They started digging underneath them and there's whole bodies to those things.

02:10:17.000 Whole bodies, and it's interesting because they're not weathered.

02:10:19.000 So they get to see the much more intricate carvings. 0.99

02:10:22.000 They get to see their hands and shit. 0.99

02:10:24.000 But the bodies go way down low. 0.99

02:10:26.000 There's been a whole field of study now.

02:10:29.000 Now they're really kind of tripping out about how...

02:10:31.000 It seems very suspect that they just didn't Look at that before.

02:10:35.000 Like, oh, wait.

02:10:37.000 It goes farther down.

02:10:38.000 Two things.

02:10:39.000 One, they didn't have the technology, I don't think, to measure the earth.

02:10:42.000 A shovel?

02:10:43.000 No, no, seismic. 0.99

02:10:44.000 Because if you just dig down like that, you could fuck it up. 0.99

02:10:47.000 You could fuck up the site. 0.90

02:10:49.000 When they do that, you're supposed to do it microscopically. 0.96

02:10:53.000 This thing that they're doing in Turkey, this Gobekli Tepe, this is one of the oldest known structures that's It's at least 13,000 years old and it was built by people who they thought were like, at the time they were hunter and gatherers.

02:11:08.000 It throws a big monkey wrench into that because there's these huge stone columns and nine foot tall stone columns with exotic animals carved into them.

02:11:17.000 Incredible, incredible work.

02:11:19.000 And it's all from 13-plus thousand years ago.

02:11:21.000 And it was all filled in 13,000 years ago.

02:11:25.000 Artificially filled in.

02:11:26.000 And humanity is thousands of years older than we probably think it is.

02:11:29.000 Yeah, much more.

02:11:31.000 But what's nutty about this one is that they've actually found that somehow or another was buried.

02:11:36.000 And they purposely buried it 13,000 years ago. 0.99

02:11:39.000 My point was, they've only been able to explore a tiny percentage of this site, because when they explore it, they use fucking toothbrushes and shit. 0.99

02:11:49.000 They're looking for any little thing. 0.99

02:11:51.000 They don't want to dig in with a shovel and break a bone that could have been a skull. 0.97

02:11:54.000 They don't want to fuck up, so they're doing everything nice and slow.

02:11:57.000 So they've only uncovered a very small percentage of this place. 0.75

02:12:01.000 So it's not suspect that the Easter Island guys never dug into that.

02:12:05.000 Because if they did, they'd do it really precisely. 1.00

02:12:07.000 I mean, look at that shit. 1.00

02:12:08.000 It's amazing. 1.00

02:12:10.000 They thought it was just a stone.

02:12:11.000 Yeah, but it seems like, here's the land right here.

02:12:14.000 And then they're probably like, hey, look, it's still going down.

02:12:18.000 I mean, these things have been in here for...

02:12:21.000 Sort of, Brian, but you gotta understand, when they did find them, when they initially found them, they were so shocked, they were so big in the first place, they couldn't figure out how people made them.

02:12:28.000 It's not even a head, but how did they get that stone there?

02:12:31.000 Yeah, they don't know where it came from.

02:12:33.000 I mean, it came from somewhere on the island, obviously.

02:12:35.000 And how did Snoop Dogg get invited?

02:12:37.000 That's not Snoop.

02:12:38.000 That's one of his little homies. 1.00

02:12:41.000 There's other pictures of them if you find them online.

02:12:43.000 They're pretty interesting, man. 0.89

02:12:45.000 There's a lot of work that's been dedicated to that now and then trying to figure out how the fuck they did it. 0.69

02:12:51.000 And what it's supposed to represent, too. 0.98

02:12:53.000 Why are they doing the same guy like that over and over and over again?

02:12:56.000 Who is that guy?

02:12:57.000 And, of course, that's where the ancient aliens come in. 0.72

02:12:59.000 You know, those dudes, those Giorgio Tsoukalos dudes.

02:13:01.000 We've had him on the podcast a bunch of times.

02:13:03.000 I love that guy.

02:13:04.000 I heard Katy Perry wants to meet him.

02:13:06.000 Like, there was, like, this thing, like, reports.

02:13:09.000 Imagine if we made her and him hook it up, and then he replaced Russell Brand. 0.95

02:13:15.000 No, if they met, and we met her, and then we stole her from Giorgio Tsoukalos.

02:13:20.000 Do you want to steal Katy Perry?

02:13:21.000 Get out of here, son. 1.00

02:13:22.000 Fuck yeah, I want Katy Perry. 1.00

02:13:23.000 You want to be her beta boyfriend that travels around with her on tour? 1.00

02:13:26.000 Yes.

02:13:26.000 Trust me, dude.

02:13:27.000 You don't want that.

02:13:27.000 You don't want that gig.

02:13:28.000 She'll force you to get fat again. 1.00

02:13:30.000 Don't do it.

02:13:30.000 Wow.

02:13:31.000 Did you talk about on a podcast about how hilarious that Tim Heidecker has been going off on Russell Brand?

02:13:40.000 We didn't talk about it.

02:13:41.000 Russell Brand is an English guy who's a really funny actor.

02:13:46.000 He's really funny.

02:13:47.000 Get him to the Greek, dude. 0.98

02:13:48.000 Yeah, I didn't see that movie, but I loved him in the Sarah Marshall movie.

02:13:52.000 But apparently he's got a talk show, and every time it's on, Tim Heidecker destroys it. 0.91

02:14:01.000 He just goes after it and spends the whole hour writing hashtag vomit, sarcastic shit about things not being funny. 0.99

02:14:08.000 Hashtag vomit. 1.00

02:14:10.000 Just shitting all over Russell Brand. 0.99

02:14:12.000 He's obsessed with it. 0.99

02:14:13.000 I think his new show is...

02:14:15.000 I forget what it's called.

02:14:16.000 It's like something X or something like that.

02:14:18.000 Brand X. Brand X. Is it good?

02:14:21.000 Have you seen it?

02:14:21.000 No, I won't.

02:14:22.000 I'm actually not a big fan of his.

02:14:26.000 You don't like him as an actor?

02:14:27.000 No, actor, I do like him as an actor.

02:14:29.000 But this is not an actor.

02:14:31.000 This is like some weird talk show, isn't it?

02:14:33.000 Or something like that.

02:14:34.000 But the poster is so...

02:14:36.000 They have it all over Sunset.

02:14:38.000 And it's just him laying back with his feet up.

02:14:42.000 I don't know.

02:14:43.000 Did you see what someone wrote on one of the posters?

02:14:45.000 Graffiti?

02:14:46.000 What did they write?

02:14:47.000 I'd rather watch Katy Perry's new movie than watch...

02:14:51.000 That's some loyal fans.

02:14:54.000 There you go, Katie.

02:14:55.000 That's some loyal fans, baby.

02:14:56.000 Is that what it says?

02:14:57.000 Where is it?

02:14:58.000 That's not the...

02:14:59.000 This is the poster that they did it to.

02:15:01.000 He's wild.

02:15:02.000 Don't you get it?

02:15:03.000 He's English and wild.

02:15:04.000 Yeah, but if you look at Tim Heidecker, who does Tim and Eric, if you look at his Twitter page, it's just one after another.

02:15:11.000 Just hilarious.

02:15:13.000 He's just tearing them up.

02:15:14.000 Tearing them up.

02:15:15.000 I guess a lot of people are saying it's not very good.

02:15:19.000 He just don't like him.

02:15:20.000 He hates mediocrity.

02:15:21.000 He likes Katy Perry.

02:15:23.000 He's a warrior against mediocrity.

02:15:25.000 I think he's just trying to impress Katy.

02:15:28.000 You think so?

02:15:28.000 And I don't blame him.

02:15:29.000 Could be that too.

02:15:30.000 Maybe that, man.

02:15:31.000 He's trying to get points, saying, yo, look, your man don't like you.

02:15:33.000 He don't appreciate you.

02:15:34.000 I'll appreciate you. 0.99

02:15:35.000 Watch, look at me, destroy your ex. 0.99

02:15:39.000 Maybe. 0.98

02:15:39.000 It could be a little bit of that. 0.98

02:15:40.000 You think?

02:15:40.000 Trying to holler?

02:15:41.000 You really think so?

02:15:42.000 You think that's what it is?

02:15:43.000 Why don't we ask him right now?

02:15:45.000 Respond to us on Twitter, to me and Joe.

02:15:47.000 We're saying, you want her?

02:15:48.000 Just holler.

02:15:49.000 I think he's just a champion against mediocrity.

02:15:52.000 That could be it too. 1.00

02:15:53.000 I think he just really genuinely thinks that guy sucks. 1.00

02:15:55.000 Ha ha ha ha! 0.99

02:15:57.000 Excuse me, what are you doing to Katie? 1.00

02:15:59.000 Stop doing it to Katie! 0.65

02:16:01.000 Why did he agree to that?

02:16:02.000 Why did he agree to that photo?

02:16:05.000 Son, do you have friends?

02:16:06.000 Do you have friends?

02:16:07.000 Because they shouldn't let you take that picture.

02:16:10.000 I think when you get enough money, you're just surrounded by yes men.

02:16:14.000 Yes men.

02:16:14.000 Is that really true?

02:16:15.000 I think there's a way to avoid that.

02:16:17.000 There's got to be a way to avoid that.

02:16:17.000 No, there are some people that will say, hey man, like for example...

02:16:21.000 I have a lot of friends, like one of my producers, name is Salpaw.

02:16:24.000 I've known his brother for over 30 years.

02:16:26.000 We went to nursery school together. 1.00

02:16:28.000 If I'm on some bullshit, he'll tell me, like, yo, man, look, dude, get the fuck out of here. 1.00

02:16:32.000 Does he have to tell you that sometimes? 1.00

02:16:34.000 Yes.

02:16:34.000 Definitely has to tell me.

02:16:35.000 Yo, man, like when we were doing the last album, like, yo, man, get the fuck up, man.

02:16:39.000 We got to get this going.

02:16:40.000 We got to get this moving.

02:16:41.000 He's a good motivator when he's on it. 0.99

02:16:43.000 When he's on some bullshit, I'm the one that's got to motivate him. 0.97

02:16:46.000 Oh, so you guys battle when you're on the road? 1.00

02:16:48.000 Battle.

02:16:48.000 I mean, he comes on the road sometimes.

02:16:50.000 It depends on what the dynamic is, like what I need.

02:16:53.000 I have different amounts of people that'll come, like people from the Rebel Arms.

02:16:57.000 It's possible to not...

02:16:58.000 Live your life with yes men.

02:17:00.000 But you gotta be your own worst critic.

02:17:03.000 I mean, a lot of people don't like to do that.

02:17:04.000 They don't like that feeling of being, of introspective feeling of really analyzing yourself objectively.

02:17:11.000 A lot of people don't like that.

02:17:12.000 That's why they need someone to check them. 0.97

02:17:13.000 No, because you have to admit your own hypocrisy. 0.83

02:17:15.000 Yeah, you can do it yourself. 0.99

02:17:16.000 You have to look at yourself.

02:17:17.000 But it's finding that time.

02:17:19.000 See, for me, that's where the isolation tank comes in.

02:17:22.000 You know, I use a sensory deprivation tank.

02:17:24.000 It's like a tank you lie in with water.

02:17:26.000 When I'm in that thing, it's quiet.

02:17:29.000 I'm not seeing anything.

02:17:31.000 I'm not feeling anything.

02:17:32.000 I'm just floating in that water.

02:17:33.000 When you're doing that, you're forced to think about yourself.

02:17:35.000 You're forced to analyze your behavior.

02:17:38.000 It's like there's nothing else there to distract you. 1.00

02:17:40.000 There's no TV to watch to flood your brain with useless shit. 1.00

02:17:43.000 There's no email to check. 1.00

02:17:45.000 There's no Twitter to check.

02:17:46.000 There's no wall to stare at and look at a painting.

02:17:48.000 You're forced to be alone with your thoughts, so you're forced to analyze your life.

02:17:52.000 And it makes me think that there's not a lot of time in life to ever achieve that sort of same state, the state of self-analysis.

02:18:00.000 There's not a lot of time to do that. 0.91

02:18:02.000 And if you're not analyzing, then a lot of the fucking you're doing is just running around with slippery shoes on. 0.96

02:18:07.000 You're not getting anywhere. 1.00

02:18:08.000 You're fucking this thing up. 0.99

02:18:09.000 You're not looking at it. 1.00

02:18:10.000 You're learning a little bit here and there, but not as much as you could be if you just really spent a certain amount of required time to just analyze your shit. 0.99

02:18:20.000 And that's, again, what people don't do. 0.99

02:18:23.000 So that and don't be a cunt are the two best pieces of advice that a human being could ever get, and yet those are also two pieces of advice they never give you. 0.99

02:18:33.000 That's really the simplest thing. 0.98

02:18:34.000 That's the only way we're going to fix this world.

02:18:36.000 We're not going to fix this world, I don't think, through some new technology or through some actual genetic evolution.

02:18:42.000 I think we're going to fix this world through a behavioral revolution, and that revolution is we're going to have to start looking at each other differently.

02:18:48.000 Let me ask you.

02:18:50.000 The other way the world can change, and since we are in 2012, I'd be remiss from bringing it up.

02:18:55.000 People are saying now that there'll be some kind of cataclysm at some point, some cataclysmic event.

02:19:01.000 I think, even though I don't necessarily agree that that's definitely going to happen, I always say that I can subscribe to the possibility of something like that happening.

02:19:11.000 People have always said that, though, man.

02:19:13.000 Y2K. But that's not the point. 0.99

02:19:14.000 Not Y2K or the Mayan prophecy. 0.51

02:19:16.000 Just the point that if something terrible did happen, Isn't that the time when everybody seems to come together?

02:19:23.000 Yeah, 9-11.

02:19:24.000 And if that terrible thing was permanent and it wasn't something we could just push to the back of our memory and say, hey, I don't want to get in the isolation tank and deal with the fact that, yes, we did sponsor a jihad against the Russians, and when someone was blowing things up, there's some mom in Russia right now who cried over her dead son back in the 70s and 80s, and her pain is no different than any American mother that's suffering because their son died in Iraq.

02:19:49.000 At some point, if we don't put ourselves in that isolation tank and say, you know, we can't escape this.

02:19:53.000 This is something permanent that has affected our world.

02:19:56.000 Well, the real problem is the word we.

02:19:57.000 Then we have to come together.

02:19:58.000 Yeah, the problem is the word we.

02:19:59.000 You know, it's like, who's actually doing this?

02:20:01.000 Who's actually doing...

02:20:01.000 It's a very small amount of people that are actually in charge of the heinous acts of the world.

02:20:06.000 It's really kind of fucked up. 0.98

02:20:07.000 Small amount of people put forth the motion of a large group of people that work for the cause. 1.00

02:20:12.000 But it's a very small amount of cunts. 0.98

02:20:14.000 It's really... 0.98

02:20:15.000 It's kind of incredible... 0.95

02:20:16.000 When you really stop and look at how fucked up the world is for a small round of people. 1.00

02:20:20.000 Isolated cunts. 1.00

02:20:21.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:20:22.000 Yeah, like guys like Dick Cheney.

02:20:25.000 Remember when he was in that bunker all the time?

02:20:28.000 Deciding what Bush would do? 0.99

02:20:29.000 What the fuck was that about? 0.99

02:20:31.000 Dude would just hide in the bunker and we would just go, oh, we hear Dick Cheney. 0.99

02:20:34.000 How do I know he's in the bunker? 1.00

02:20:35.000 I mean, that seems really stupid. 0.95

02:20:37.000 I'm not even trying to find this out and I know that he's in the bunker. 0.99

02:20:40.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

02:20:41.000 What the fuck kind of weird shit is that? 1.00

02:20:44.000 Are you so confident in that goddamn bunker? 1.00

02:20:46.000 Listen, people like him are in a position that they're in because they convince other individuals that they're moral leaders. 0.99

02:20:53.000 Look, this is my only thing in terms of Republicans and Democrats when we have this debate and we discuss it.

02:21:00.000 They're both...

02:21:01.000 both have to pander to corporations.

02:21:03.000 However, in my experience, I've met a lot more conservative people that try to play pious and like, "Oh, that's so horrible," as opposed to saying, "Yeah, we're all part of this." As opposed to just being who you want to be, instead you lie about who you want to be, and then you're trying to pick men up in an airport bathroom, or you're secretly selling arms to enemies, or you're doing...

02:21:24.000 At least just be who you are.

02:21:25.000 But at some point, you couldn't be in that position you are unless you didn't convince people that you're a good Christian, you know what I mean?

02:21:32.000 That you're a humble person, that you care about other people, when in reality, you're probably not any of these things. 0.99

02:21:40.000 And you got into politics because it's a good fucking payday. 0.97

02:21:42.000 Well, it's also they want power. 0.99

02:21:44.000 Power too?

02:21:45.000 Or women. 0.79

02:21:47.000 Yeah, the reason why anybody who wants to be president shouldn't be president is that nobody should want to be president.

02:21:53.000 Nobody should want to be that guy, the one guy that gets to decide everything. 0.93

02:21:56.000 How arrogant are you? 1.00

02:21:57.000 You're crazy. 1.00

02:21:57.000 You're out of your fucking mind. 1.00

02:21:58.000 The position shouldn't exist anymore. 1.00

02:22:00.000 It shouldn't be a way where one person is thought of as our great leader in 2012. It's nonsense.

02:22:06.000 That is a form of leadership, a form of hierarchy that exists in small groups of primates. 1.00

02:22:16.000 That alpha shit works with one person when there's like 50 people. 0.98

02:22:20.000 But I don't think that that... 1.00

02:22:21.000 One's got to be the bad motherfucker, the leader, the tribe. 0.99

02:22:23.000 I don't think that that really is a functional system. 0.99

02:22:24.000 No, I think that's the imagery the system gives you.

02:22:27.000 But obviously...

02:22:27.000 I know, but I'm saying he should even abandon that.

02:22:29.000 He has a cabinet.

02:22:31.000 But not just the cabinet.

02:22:32.000 He has a...

02:22:34.000 There's a plethora of backers that have given financially to it.

02:22:39.000 And at the end of every election...

02:22:40.000 He represents them. 1.00

02:22:41.000 These motherfuckers expect to get paid. 1.00

02:22:43.000 They expect to get what they gave. 1.00

02:22:44.000 If I make a fucking investment, homie, I want some returns. 1.00

02:22:49.000 You're going to do something for me. 1.00

02:22:50.000 I gave to you. 1.00

02:22:51.000 That's why Mitt Romney is so dangerous with this medical marijuana shit. 1.00

02:22:55.000 He's the most dangerous because he says he'll fight tooth and claw to stop medical marijuana. 1.00

02:22:59.000 Well, of course you will.

02:23:00.000 Of course you will.

02:23:01.000 Someone's paying you to do that.

02:23:02.000 Smart.

02:23:03.000 Smart for you.

02:23:04.000 Smart for you to get on that hustle too. 0.98

02:23:06.000 That hustle is a weak-ass hustle. 1.00

02:23:07.000 It's a dumber hustle. 1.00

02:23:09.000 The Republican hustle is way dumber because a lot of it is based on silly ideologies. 1.00

02:23:13.000 It's based on people that don't want to think. 1.00

02:23:16.000 One of their primary selling points has always been religion.

02:23:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:23:21.000 That's what I'm talking about.

02:23:21.000 Especially in the modern age and I would say more so after the Reagan era because one of the first presidents to really bring out evangelical voters was actually Jimmy Carter and not any Republican.

02:23:31.000 Really?

02:23:32.000 It's always attributed to Reagan's administration that they actively targeted them.

02:23:36.000 Jimmy had more of them.

02:23:37.000 Again, down south, very Christian, humanitarian, played that up, very much so, man of the people.

02:23:44.000 But at some particular point, if we're...

02:23:50.000 I always thought about it this way.

02:23:52.000 If religion is the selling point, then let's sit in that tank where we move everything apart and we think about humanity as a whole.

02:24:03.000 In Egypt, 3500 years ago, people worshipped deities like Anubis, Osiris, an anthropomorphic figure with the body of a human being and the head of a jackal.

02:24:14.000 Right.

02:24:14.000 You know why they did that?

02:24:15.000 They were high as fuck, son. 1.00

02:24:17.000 That's why. 1.00

02:24:18.000 Or they just prayed to these figures thinking that they were going to bring them food or love or long life or cure for sickness. 1.00

02:24:27.000 Money, bitches. 1.00

02:24:27.000 Right. 1.00

02:24:28.000 Everything that was real back then, that's real to them now.

02:24:31.000 Or that's fake then, that's fake now.

02:24:32.000 But my thing is this. 0.99

02:24:34.000 If we look at it from that perspective now as Americans, like, oh, that's so ridiculous. 0.97

02:24:39.000 Somebody's worshipping a statue like that with it. 0.89

02:24:42.000 Well, that's 3,500 years from now.

02:24:45.000 If humanity makes it 3,500 years from today and they look back at this time, I know exactly what they'll say. 0.98

02:24:53.000 They'll say just as we said about those people, look at these ridiculous, pathetic human beings that lived at this time. 0.96

02:25:01.000 They worshipped a dead guy nailed to a piece of wood and they couldn't understand the most basic thing he was trying to tell people which is treat others the way you want to be treated. 1.00

02:25:11.000 to a dude who you can't even draw or people want to kill you. 0.54

02:25:14.000 Right.

02:25:14.000 Or at any point, took a position that said, I'm going to create the ability to just tell people something and not have them question it ever at all.

02:25:30.000 Yeah.

02:25:30.000 That's the most dangerous part I think about anything because you should be able to say, hey man, if one of these things is illogical, then all of them have to be illogical.

02:25:39.000 If you're telling me, oh, it's impossible for Jesus to have resurrected, okay, but it's possible for a man to divide the ocean.

02:25:45.000 For someone that the Prophet Muhammad, peace be on him, ascends into heaven, that's the same thing to me or is the same impossibility. 0.98

02:25:53.000 But I think that when you look at people's lives who live in poverty, the reason that that's so... 0.85

02:25:59.000 That's so prevalent there is because their lives are so ridiculous, because their lives are so insane that I couldn't understand. 0.95

02:26:05.000 That's just as outlandish to me as walking on water, the idea that, you know what, I'm going to have to drink my own piss today, or I'm not going to fucking be hydrated, or I have to go for three days without food, or I have to cut pieces of my flesh out. 0.99

02:26:19.000 So you're saying that their life was so fucked that it was easy to give them religion? 0.99

02:26:24.000 Well, I'll put it this way. 0.99

02:26:25.000 I'll give you a personal example rather than using a hypothetical.

02:26:28.000 My grandmother, whose house I just left, like I was telling you before, I took her to Vons.

02:26:32.000 I always show grandma love.

02:26:34.000 I care about her a lot.

02:26:35.000 She raised 10 kids.

02:26:37.000 You know what I mean?

02:26:38.000 And God bless her soul. 0.95

02:26:39.000 My grandfather, God rest her soul, was a good man in his later years, but he fucked up a lot of things in his first years.

02:26:46.000 So he wasn't around a lot.

02:26:47.000 And I always think to myself, like, there's something about the idea that grandma had that somewhere in the sky, That a guy named Jesus, you know what I mean?

02:26:57.000 With a mullet and the cut, you know what I mean?

02:27:00.000 And the blue eyes was out there watching her and she depended on that idea.

02:27:04.000 I'm not trying to steal that love and compassion from anybody.

02:27:08.000 I'm not trying to take any religion away from people at all.

02:27:12.000 I just tell them all the time that unless your religion makes you a better person, unless it makes you less judgmental over people's lives, if it makes you more generous, if it makes you look at people and say, hey, just like you said, you know what?

02:27:25.000 What if I was that person?

02:27:27.000 What if I grew up like that?

02:27:28.000 Then it's ennobled you. 1.00

02:27:29.000 But if it makes you more pretentious, if it makes you more of an asshole, if it makes you say, I just have the real truth and everyone who doesn't believe in what I believe in is going to hell, then your religion has failed you as much as you failed that religion. 0.99

02:27:41.000 In my humble opinion, that's all I would say. 0.99

02:27:44.000 Without that connection...

02:27:45.000 It's just an ideology, and the real problem with the ideology is it answers questions that have no answers.

02:27:50.000 It doesn't make any sense.

02:27:51.000 It's not that there couldn't have been a Jesus, not that there couldn't have been a guy who came back from the dead. 0.99

02:27:55.000 How the fuck do you know? 0.99

02:27:56.000 I don't know, okay? 0.99

02:27:58.000 If you're talking about one magical act, let's just go hypothetical completely.

02:28:03.000 One magical act.

02:28:04.000 You're saying that magic can't exist?

02:28:06.000 Is that what you're saying?

02:28:07.000 Maybe it can't right now.

02:28:09.000 Maybe it did at one time. 0.59

02:28:11.000 I mean, isn't it possible that somewhere, somewhere along the line, someone would figure something fucking crazy out?

02:28:16.000 Just like today, they figured out the internet. 0.62

02:28:18.000 Just like today, they figured out cell phones and bullets and laser beams. 0.99

02:28:21.000 Who the fuck knows? 0.99

02:28:23.000 What do I know? 0.99

02:28:23.000 But what I do know is that... 0.99

02:28:27.000 You can't make absolutes with human beings.

02:28:30.000 You can't tell me that you know the answers.

02:28:34.000 Because if you go back to a science book from 100 years ago, almost none of it is applicable.

02:28:43.000 Like, the things they used to do to help people 200 years ago, 300 years ago when they were sick?

02:28:47.000 That's nothing!

02:28:49.000 That's nothing!

02:28:50.000 And you're counting on the word of God from people who wrote it down more than 2,000 years ago.

02:28:55.000 And by the way, the oldest version of it is the Dead Sea Scrolls. 0.96

02:28:58.000 They wrote it on animal skins and left it in fucking clay jars in the hills of Qumran. 0.99

02:29:04.000 And this shit is like a thousand years older than even the oldest version of the ancient Hebrew Bible. 0.99

02:29:10.000 And they can't even acknowledge the present day New Testament. 0.99

02:29:14.000 They're saying, they're having a debate now about what language it was in, whether it was in Greek or Aramaic.

02:29:20.000 So even at that point, we're talking about the inability to sit down and precisely time something.

02:29:26.000 Yeah, that's what a lot of people don't understand as well, that ancient Hebrew was also, they didn't have numbers.

02:29:31.000 So like the letter A doubled as the number one.

02:29:34.000 And then words had like numeric value, like the word love and the word God, they have the same numeric value.

02:29:41.000 And that was like important for the way they wrote things.

02:29:43.000 They wrote things not just with letters, but numerically.

02:29:46.000 It's really trippy.

02:29:47.000 And apparently that's all lost in the translation to Latin and Greek and their original feel of those words.

02:29:54.000 But even Latin and Greek, for example, those ancient languages like a Hebrew, Arabic, Latin, Greek, there are words that mean several different things.

02:30:02.000 And I think it's just a testament to how basic our form of communication is that in...

02:30:08.000 Rap and lyricism, I have to create wordplay, double entendres, things that have double meanings, this that really means this.

02:30:16.000 Can you imagine writing in ancient Hebrew?

02:30:18.000 That a metaphor and a simile where those aren't even necessary in other languages because it's written into the actual words.

02:30:24.000 Like I could have a normal conversation with you in one of those ancient languages if we were back in those times.

02:30:30.000 Maybe not though. 0.99

02:30:31.000 Maybe it was really fucking dumb and that's why they don't do it that way anymore. 0.98

02:30:35.000 Maybe it didn't come across right, but I just know English being a very basic, you know, Germanic and Scandinavian type language. 0.98

02:30:43.000 Yeah, it's definitely different.

02:30:46.000 Yeah, I wonder what it would have been like to have a battle rap in ancient Hebrew.

02:30:51.000 No, but you know, I read an interesting account of ancient Greece and Byzantium at the time, and it was said that even the emperor Justinian, they were different groups the way we have red republicans, blue democrats.

02:31:04.000 They had the greens and blues back then that argued for different political factions.

02:31:08.000 And it said within several of these books that I read that even the emperor and other people participated in some of these debates where it had to be at a certain tone.

02:31:18.000 It had to be at a certain tempo So essentially their political...

02:31:23.000 Politically battle-rapping one another at some point.

02:31:26.000 They would do it as a speech.

02:31:27.000 As a speech, but it had to have rhythm to it.

02:31:29.000 It had to have a poetic...

02:31:31.000 No kidding.

02:31:32.000 That's fascinating.

02:31:33.000 I wonder what that was like.

02:31:34.000 Do you think they rhymed things?

02:31:35.000 Is there any evidence? 0.98

02:31:36.000 When's the earliest evidence of people figuring out that it's cool to rhyme shit? 0.97

02:31:40.000 Probably when someone went, uh! 0.98

02:31:42.000 And they went, uh!

02:31:43.000 No, but I mean, are there really old rhymes?

02:31:46.000 Like old poems?

02:31:47.000 Did old poems always rhyme?

02:31:49.000 No, I dropped it like it's hot.

02:31:51.000 Noah dropped it like it's hot?

02:31:52.000 For real, when did rhyming start?

02:31:54.000 Who figured out rhyming?

02:31:57.000 You're a rhyming expert, you should know this.

02:31:59.000 At Immortal Tech.

02:32:00.000 Who invented funny?

02:32:02.000 That's impossible.

02:32:03.000 There we go.

02:32:04.000 Monkeys laugh at each other. 0.66

02:32:05.000 You go to the zoo and one chimp will hit another chimp. 1.00

02:32:08.000 Well, I'm saying that a lot of words sound the same.

02:32:10.000 You never know who sounded right.

02:32:11.000 I know, but I wonder when the actual art of writing things down and making them rhyme, doing them correct, and doing them in time.

02:32:19.000 Harry and Mary.

02:32:21.000 Yeah.

02:32:21.000 Someone figured out that there was something cool about that.

02:32:24.000 Because there really is something cool about rhyming shit. 0.99

02:32:26.000 It makes it better. 0.99

02:32:27.000 You got to take a leak?

02:32:28.000 Yeah.

02:32:28.000 Straight out that door.

02:32:30.000 Last door on the left.

02:32:33.000 We got a show Friday.

02:32:34.000 Yeah, show Friday, Dirty Freaks. 0.52

02:32:36.000 10.30, Joey Diaz, you said?

02:32:37.000 Yeah, Joey Diaz, Josh McDermott, Brian Redman, me, and a whole lot of other people that we're friends with that stopped by, hopefully.

02:32:44.000 We don't know exactly what the lineup is, but that's the lineup so far.

02:32:49.000 But it'll be Friday night, 10.30, in the Ice House Comedy Club, which is probably one of the fucking coolest spots on earth.

02:32:55.000 Been here since like 1950-something.

02:32:58.000 What was I just Googling?

02:33:00.000 Was I looking at?

02:33:01.000 I was talking to him about something crazy.

02:33:03.000 I don't know.

02:33:04.000 You don't remember?

02:33:05.000 I know.

02:33:05.000 Were you paying attention at all?

02:33:06.000 I ate an edible. 1.00

02:33:07.000 Oh, you son of a bitch. 1.00

02:33:09.000 After I ate that edible yesterday, people are like, dude, Joe, you seem like you were on drugs yesterday. 1.00

02:33:14.000 Yeah.

02:33:15.000 Something like that.

02:33:16.000 That was a weird one.

02:33:17.000 I ate more of it.

02:33:19.000 And I forgot.

02:33:20.000 I was just hungry.

02:33:21.000 I've been eating edibles a lot lately just because I have so many edibles now.

02:33:24.000 And I'm hungry.

02:33:26.000 I'm like, wow, that's a Reese's cup.

02:33:28.000 I'm hungry. 1.00

02:33:29.000 You should get some food in your house, bitch. 1.00

02:33:30.000 I know, I really should. 1.00

02:33:31.000 But being that high and listening to Honey Honey was really freakish, man.

02:33:34.000 Oh, I bet. 1.00

02:33:35.000 Holy shit, they were good. 1.00

02:33:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:33:37.000 Her voice is incredible, man. 1.00

02:33:39.000 It's mind-boggling.

02:33:41.000 Like I was saying, you're making noise with your mouth and it makes people feel better.

02:33:45.000 Yeah.

02:33:46.000 Like, weird.

02:33:47.000 I would love to be able to...

02:33:48.000 Wouldn't you love to be able to date a girl that could play an instrument and sing like that? 1.00

02:33:52.000 I think that would...

02:33:53.000 I've never done that.

02:33:54.000 I think it would be different.

02:33:56.000 It would be sexy.

02:33:58.000 Yeah, it's definitely sexy.

02:33:59.000 Like, she would write you a song, you know, for your birthday or something. 1.00

02:34:03.000 Don't want to hear your fucking crazy song you wrote about me, you silly bitch. 1.00

02:34:06.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:34:07.000 Yeah, but what if she was like crazy talented? 0.96

02:34:10.000 That would be really fucking bad for your ego. 0.96

02:34:12.000 Some chick writing songs about you? 1.00

02:34:14.000 I think it would be amazing. 0.99

02:34:16.000 You're so vain.

02:34:18.000 If it was good, like her voice was really good.

02:34:20.000 I bet you think this song is about you.

02:34:22.000 You're so vain. 1.00

02:34:25.000 That was a badass bitch, Carly Simon. 1.00

02:34:28.000 Yeah, you gotta be really careful if you bang a famous singer and she writes a song about you, Warren Beatty. 0.99

02:34:33.000 People are really mad that you never answered who you thought killed Piggy. 1.00

02:34:37.000 Fuck those people. 1.00

02:34:39.000 You don't have to answer that silly goddamn question. 1.00

02:34:42.000 This is the real question. 1.00

02:34:43.000 Is Bigfoot real?

02:34:45.000 I think at some point he was.

02:34:47.000 At some point?

02:34:48.000 And they don't exist anymore?

02:34:49.000 At some point he was.

02:34:50.000 You think it's possible in the Pacific Northwest there might be an undiscovered primate?

02:34:54.000 I'm not sure. 0.99

02:34:56.000 I've never been there to the Pacific Northwest looking for a fucking primate. 0.99

02:34:59.000 I think that's a good question to ask people. 0.98

02:35:01.000 But we've definitely met some primates on the road that act out of place and they want to play monkey and they run into some real gorillas.

02:35:07.000 I don't think that is the same thing.

02:35:09.000 I think we're talking about a totally different thing.

02:35:10.000 No, but they definitely get the Bigfoot. 1.00

02:35:12.000 They get that Sasquatch stomp. 1.00

02:35:13.000 So that's what it is, baby.

02:35:15.000 I think that's a good question to ask almost anybody that comes on the podcast.

02:35:18.000 Do they believe in Bigfoot?

02:35:19.000 I started with Chell Sonnen.

02:35:20.000 I like Biggie.

02:35:21.000 I might have to talk...

02:35:22.000 No!

02:35:22.000 I've asked like 10 people.

02:35:24.000 Who killed Biggie?

02:35:25.000 Yeah.

02:35:25.000 What was their response?

02:35:26.000 All the police.

02:35:28.000 The police.

02:35:28.000 Yeah, the Rampart unit.

02:35:30.000 That was the Rolling Stones set.

02:35:31.000 It was the Rampart unit.

02:35:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:35:32.000 It wouldn't be the first time they shot a motherfucker with no consequence. 1.00

02:35:35.000 Well, not only that, it wouldn't be the first... 0.99

02:35:36.000 I mean, back then you had to realize in the 1990s, essentially we were in the non-internet age.

02:35:40.000 People had not changed from the old way.

02:35:42.000 Pac got shot on the strip of Vegas with...

02:35:45.000 How many witnesses? 0.99

02:35:48.000 The internet age has really changed a lot of shit. 0.97

02:35:51.000 It's not as easy to just pull something off like that. 0.98

02:35:54.000 Right.

02:35:55.000 It's different.

02:35:56.000 It's a different world.

02:35:56.000 And I think, remember, you know, did you ever see Cocaine Cowboys?

02:35:59.000 Mm-hmm. 0.99

02:36:00.000 God damn, is that a good movie. 1.00

02:36:01.000 God damn, is that a good movie. 0.99

02:36:04.000 And Cocaine Cowboys 2 as well, just as good. 0.99

02:36:07.000 And anyway, when they talked about that one class, the graduating class of the Miami Police Academy, where everyone who graduated either wound up murdered or in jail for corruption.

02:36:20.000 Every one of them. 0.98

02:36:22.000 They were just crazy gangsters. 1.00

02:36:24.000 The whole police department was corrupt. 1.00

02:36:27.000 They were getting money.

02:36:27.000 That's amazing.

02:36:28.000 I mean, we had something like that in Harlem called the Dirty 30, where they were just robbing drug dealers.

02:36:34.000 Dirty cops?

02:36:35.000 There was such a gang, and it was the 30th precinct, I believe. 0.95

02:36:39.000 Oh.

02:36:39.000 So I think what they did was...

02:36:41.000 That they would just continuously rob drug dealers, harass individuals for money, and they were extorting dealers at the time.

02:36:47.000 Jesus.

02:36:47.000 It was crazy.

02:36:48.000 One of my one of my one of my friend's fathers said that at a particular time, the cops came in, raided what he had and said, you know what, we're going to give you we're taking the money, but we're going to leave the stash and we're going to make sure nobody fucks with you. 0.65

02:37:06.000 And we're going to give you extra stash here. 0.99

02:37:08.000 We got some more smack for you, press up, do whatever you want, and then we'll come back and we'll take a percentage and you can have your whatever the fuck cut. 0.99

02:37:17.000 He said this went on for a couple of months and he was like, yo, you know what, finally I'm out of this. 0.98

02:37:21.000 He said he don't even know what happened to his friend that was into it with 5-0.

02:37:25.000 He said basically, you know what?

02:37:27.000 So the police made some sort of a deal where they would take a piece of the action.

02:37:30.000 Right, absolutely.

02:37:32.000 It's such a slippery slope. 0.99

02:37:33.000 If you're a cop and you start doing illegal shit, you really can't stop. 0.97

02:37:37.000 I mean, how do you stop and become a good cop again? 0.98

02:37:39.000 It's so hard for them to stop.

02:37:41.000 They... 1.00

02:37:42.000 Plus, drug dealers, don't fuck about no badge, homie. 1.00

02:37:45.000 You stole $10 million from me, I'm gonna fucking kill you. 1.00

02:37:47.000 And I'm gonna kill your family. 1.00

02:37:49.000 You're just a person. 1.00

02:37:49.000 At the end of the day, you're just a person. 1.00

02:37:51.000 And that's the creepiest thing that a cop could think of is that they're in a gang.

02:37:56.000 It's their gang versus your gang. 0.66

02:37:58.000 But I mean, keep it real.

02:38:00.000 That's what it is.

02:38:01.000 That's kind of what it is.

02:38:02.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

02:38:02.000 You fuck with one of them, they'll come get you and they're not playing. 1.00

02:38:05.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

02:38:05.000 Of course. 1.00

02:38:06.000 Yeah.

02:38:06.000 And, you know, that's how you have to be because that's why they, look, if they're protecting good people from crime, that's all good.

02:38:13.000 It's when they become the people that are perpetrating the crime that that sort of a situation becomes problematic.

02:38:18.000 Or they become the protector of those individuals.

02:38:21.000 You know what I mean?

02:38:21.000 Someone once said that they only exist in a society where, you know, you have such a distinction between poor and rich.

02:38:28.000 You know, then if people were equal in a society that you wouldn't...

02:38:31.000 Yeah, but the problem with people being equal is free will and activity and the environment.

02:38:37.000 I mean, it's like you would have to do a lot to make people equal.

02:38:40.000 And it wouldn't involve just the people who are poor.

02:38:43.000 It would involve everybody.

02:38:44.000 And it's...

02:38:46.000 It's the process of thousands of years of human behavior.

02:38:51.000 It's not a simple process. 0.98

02:38:53.000 There's people that are always going to be lazy cunts. 0.95

02:38:56.000 And I don't know how you fix that. 0.97

02:38:59.000 But when you give people...

02:39:00.000 This is the reality of a welfare state.

02:39:02.000 The reality of a welfare state is, as a community, we should always be willing to help our brothers and sisters and help people who have experienced circumstances beyond their control and have a community stand up for each other.

02:39:16.000 I know people who their house is burned down and their folks next door let them move into the basement with their whole family until they rebuilt their house up again. 0.95

02:39:24.000 That kind of stuff is fucking beautiful. 0.99

02:39:26.000 I love hearing shit like that. 0.99

02:39:28.000 That's human beings helping other human beings. 0.99

02:39:29.000 But there's a difference between that and then giving people something when they're poor and they don't have to do anything for it.

02:39:35.000 There's a real problem with human beings. 0.99

02:39:37.000 And when you get people used to money for nothing, they get lazy as fuck. 0.99

02:39:42.000 They have no reason to do anything. 0.99

02:39:43.000 It's just natural human behavior. 1.00

02:39:45.000 It feeds into some baby shit that you... 0.99

02:39:48.000 And so these people, without developing a character, without developing... 0.99

02:39:52.000 And having everyone around them living the same way, so they're imitating their atmosphere, and then having the situation where it seems like there's no way out of it.

02:39:59.000 So it becomes a point of despair, a point of acceptance, and this laziness becomes a part of culture.

02:40:07.000 And that, in essence, is kind of a microcosm for what corporations get in terms of their corporate welfare.

02:40:13.000 They're used to having a government that they can fucking give money to, that they can work with.

02:40:17.000 They're used to being able to grease palms in order to get things passed that are illegal. 0.98

02:40:21.000 They used to say, oh, this isn't illegal?

02:40:22.000 Well, guess what? 0.99

02:40:23.000 What good is a fucking law if you can't rewrite it? 0.99

02:40:26.000 Because then that affects millions of other people's lives. 0.99

02:40:28.000 To me, when I look at the rich-poor divide, it was funny.

02:40:32.000 My grandmother said some funny thing to me at the table today.

02:40:35.000 She goes, you know, rich people need to be in our prayers, too.

02:40:38.000 And I said...

02:40:39.000 Yeah?

02:40:39.000 He said, you know, people pray for poor people all the time, she told me.

02:40:42.000 He said, but we need to pray for rich people, too, because, unfortunately, their God is money.

02:40:46.000 And they're lost.

02:40:47.000 Some of them are lost.

02:40:48.000 And they just don't know what the hell they're doing and how much they're hurting people.

02:40:51.000 Now, mind you, I'm not a religious fanatic.

02:40:54.000 What do you mean?

02:40:55.000 They're hurting people by being rich?

02:40:56.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

02:40:57.000 I'm not saying they're hurting people by being rich.

02:40:59.000 But if...

02:41:01.000 If you think that you can just solve everything with money and that is what your primary focus is because unfortunately...

02:41:09.000 They're not trying to solve everything with money.

02:41:11.000 They're just trying to rack up a good score.

02:41:12.000 But it's not even that.

02:41:13.000 It's now they think that that particular...

02:41:17.000 Piece of number behind them makes them better than other people.

02:41:21.000 And in some cases, they can live a much better life.

02:41:27.000 Well, it's a game.

02:41:28.000 Capitalism is a game.

02:41:30.000 Capitalism is not the problem.

02:41:31.000 It's the abandonment of humanity while pursuing capitalism.

02:41:33.000 It's not pursuing a game.

02:41:35.000 It's pursuing a game without any worries about the consequences of the environment or the human cost.

02:41:41.000 But I don't think we play real capitalism.

02:41:43.000 It doesn't have to be that way.

02:41:44.000 Real capitalism involves other people that have competition.

02:41:47.000 When we go to a country and we engage in a kleptocracy to take over things, that's not real capitalism.

02:41:51.000 They don't have their own little African diamond company that competes with De Beers and the rest of them.

02:41:56.000 What they have is a monopoly.

02:41:57.000 They might have the semblance of what capitalism is within the confines of certain sectors of the United States, but outside of this country, real capitalism doesn't exist that way. 0.73

02:42:07.000 Our relationship with England and that capitalist relationship is the difference from It's very different from our relationship with, let's say, Colombia and that relationship with capitalism where we say, we're going to prop up a state by, it doesn't matter what the human rights violations are, we're just going to prop you motherfuckers up and you're going to get us what we want, which is control of the particular region.

02:42:27.000 You have the Atlantic and you have the Pacific, your neighboring countries.

02:42:32.000 Well, it comes down to the same thing. 1.00

02:42:33.000 Don't be a cunt. 1.00

02:42:34.000 It really comes down to behavior. 1.00

02:42:35.000 It comes down to the same goddamn thing every way you go. 0.99

02:42:38.000 You could wrap it up in capitalism or economic gain or call it whatever the fuck you want to call it. 0.99

02:42:42.000 The real problem is doing things at the expense of other people, fucking people up. 0.66

02:42:47.000 It's not whether or not people are rich and it's not The problem with you're not going to have any equality until everybody is equal. 0.98

02:42:55.000 No one's ever equal in this fucking world. 0.92

02:42:58.000 No one's going to be equal. 0.99

02:42:59.000 Someone's going to be smarter.

02:43:00.000 They're going to be faster. 1.00

02:43:01.000 They're going to have a bigger dick. 1.00

02:43:02.000 There's no equal. 1.00

02:43:03.000 You got your fucking roll of the dice. 1.00

02:43:05.000 Now you need to make hay, motherfucker. 1.00

02:43:07.000 And that's what's missing in a welfare state. 1.00

02:43:09.000 And the problem with the idea that everybody has to be equal.

02:43:12.000 No, you have to work harder to be equal.

02:43:15.000 But you have to also have an even playing field, which we don't even have that.

02:43:18.000 Right.

02:43:19.000 So it's not even that people are impoverished and there's a direct path.

02:43:23.000 No, it's that people are impoverished and there's no training, there's no education, there's no protection from their environment, the violence that comes with a poor environment.

02:43:33.000 Well, because if we're using the cunt factor, then there's no interest in them making them into able-factors parts of society. 0.90

02:43:39.000 You know why?

02:43:39.000 Because they can make money for us in the prison system.

02:43:41.000 And this is what we're going to advance.

02:43:42.000 They can also make money.

02:43:43.000 See, that's just because that system's in control.

02:43:46.000 It's been hijacked.

02:43:47.000 You can make money from... 0.97

02:43:49.000 Look, if you have big money for defense contractors in Iraq and rebuilding companies like Halliburton that come in and build shit back up after we blow it the fuck apart, Well, then you could also have big contracts to shape up ghettos. 1.00

02:44:03.000 You could have the same kind of... 0.95

02:44:05.000 To rebuild Detroit.

02:44:06.000 Exactly.

02:44:06.000 Have the same kind of money involved in putting forth some sort of an effort to fulfill the potential of young human beings.

02:44:17.000 To take young human beings in any sort of impoverished area where they don't have a whole lot to look forward to, they don't have a whole lot of options, and provide those.

02:44:25.000 I've always said, you want to strengthen the country...

02:44:28.000 Make less losers, okay?

02:44:30.000 You want less people robbing people, less people in jail, more people producing.

02:44:34.000 The only way to do that is to take care of the most important resource we have, and that's young people.

02:44:39.000 That's babies. 1.00

02:44:40.000 That's children. 0.99

02:44:41.000 And where's the life becoming the most fucked up? 0.99

02:44:44.000 Where is it? 0.98

02:44:44.000 Well, in the most impoverished areas. 0.98

02:44:46.000 It's the most difficult.

02:44:47.000 It's harder to get away from the crime and the gangs.

02:44:49.000 Well, we need to correct that. 0.99

02:44:51.000 No politician has ever lifted a fucking finger for that. 0.99

02:44:54.000 Because they can't make money. 0.98

02:44:56.000 We have to figure out a way to make money and fixing things up. 0.98

02:44:58.000 We have to figure out a way where Halliburton gets on mushrooms and they go, we're going to rebuild ghettos instead of going over to fucking Iraq and blowing shit up and then rebuilding it back. 0.99

02:45:07.000 Let's rebuild ghettos. 1.00

02:45:09.000 But I think the problem is that...

02:45:12.000 Even if you wanted to do it, and even if they agreed to do it, there would always be some kind of hidden agenda there.

02:45:17.000 Well, that's because they're not on mushrooms.

02:45:20.000 That's the thing.

02:45:20.000 We've got to get them on mushrooms.

02:45:21.000 We're going to rebuild the ghetto so that we can turn all of these kids that are coming out of here into fucking soldiers. 1.00

02:45:27.000 Only if you're a cunt. 1.00

02:45:28.000 If you weren't a cunt, you wouldn't do that. 1.00

02:45:29.000 So it goes back to my thing. 1.00

02:45:31.000 Don't be a cunt. 1.00

02:45:32.000 That's everything. 1.00

02:45:33.000 That is everything. 1.00

02:45:34.000 The Buddha doesn't teach that shit. 0.99

02:45:36.000 You need to put on a t-shirt. 1.00

02:45:37.000 Somebody else do it.

02:45:38.000 Right now.

02:45:38.000 Don't make some money.

02:45:39.000 Don't be a cunt. 1.00

02:45:39.000 No, no. 1.00

02:45:39.000 Just get like a little Buddha right there on a t-shirt. 1.00

02:45:41.000 Buddha says, don't be a cunt. 1.00

02:45:43.000 Buddha says on the back, don't be a cunt. 1.00

02:45:45.000 I think I'm going to have an American flag one that's just going to say, we're America and we're not cunts. 1.00

02:45:49.000 Because I think that's even better.

02:45:51.000 That's the perfect ideal.

02:45:52.000 Everybody looks at America.

02:45:53.000 We don't look at America.

02:45:54.000 I'm an American. 0.99

02:45:54.000 And in the back it says, but I'm not a cunt. 0.99

02:45:56.000 That too. 0.98

02:45:57.000 But I think it's better to say it all in one sentence. 0.75

02:45:59.000 We're America and we're not cunts. 0.98

02:46:01.000 Or we have the best cunts. 1.00

02:46:03.000 Do we? 0.98

02:46:04.000 Like girls. 0.92

02:46:04.000 I don't think we do. 0.92

02:46:05.000 Girl cunts. 1.00

02:46:06.000 I think Brazil's got us beat. 0.99

02:46:07.000 No.

02:46:08.000 Maybe Japan? 1.00

02:46:09.000 Shit's dirty. 1.00

02:46:10.000 What? 1.00

02:46:11.000 Shut your fucking mouth. 1.00

02:46:12.000 Joe is Team Brazil. 1.00

02:46:13.000 Big shout out to everybody.

02:46:14.000 Hold on, hold on.

02:46:15.000 Big shout out to everybody that's listening from Brazil and from Japan.

02:46:18.000 Yeah, we get people listening to us from everywhere.

02:46:20.000 Big shout out to Brazil.

02:46:21.000 Big shout out to Tijuana.

02:46:22.000 I met a lot of people in San Diego that came up from Tijuana.

02:46:25.000 TJ. Yeah, that's a fucking long trip, man. 0.98

02:46:29.000 You're a Mexican dude. 0.99

02:46:29.000 You want to go see some comedy? 0.99

02:46:30.000 They're like, yeah, right. 1.00

02:46:31.000 You got to answer some fucking questions. 1.00

02:46:34.000 Dog sniff your car for everything that ever has been invented. 1.00

02:46:38.000 All right, you dirty bitches. 1.00

02:46:39.000 This podcast is over. 1.00

02:46:40.000 Thanks, brother.

02:46:40.000 It was awesome.

02:46:41.000 Good time.

02:46:42.000 We're almost at three hours.

02:46:43.000 So at three hours, our podcast becomes a pumpkin.

02:46:46.000 I wanted to give you this gift before we get out of here.

02:46:49.000 Okay, what is it, man?

02:46:50.000 This is a Mortal Technique t-shirt. 0.99

02:46:52.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:46:53.000 Brian's got one on right now, ladies and gentlemen. 1.00

02:46:54.000 Bang, bang, bang. 0.89

02:46:55.000 Check out Brian.

02:46:57.000 I got the album I just given him and then the other albums that I did.

02:47:01.000 And you got a Desquad t-shirt on, son.

02:47:02.000 Bang.

02:47:03.000 Bang, bang, bang. 0.89

02:47:03.000 The t-shirts are available at deskquad.tv, ladies and gentlemen. 0.89

02:47:07.000 And I got this documentary movie.

02:47:08.000 It's with myself, also Cornel West, Ice-T, KRS-One, Chuck D, Woody Harrelson.

02:47:15.000 Oh, they did a documentary on you?

02:47:17.000 Yeah, and also it's about artistic freedom and stuff like that.

02:47:20.000 You can get it at viperrecords.com, directed by my friend Carrie Stewart.

02:47:23.000 Dude, you have your own documentary.

02:47:25.000 Yeah, but we got...

02:47:26.000 That's pretty sporty.

02:47:27.000 Trying to be as focused as I can.

02:47:31.000 You got to be humble when you have your own documentary, man.

02:47:33.000 It's a real problem.

02:47:35.000 You get your own documentary, man.

02:47:37.000 It's hard not to think you...

02:47:37.000 If I don't shout out the following people, they're going to go crazy.

02:47:40.000 Big shout out to Swayve Seva, Diabolica King...

02:47:42.000 These are the first shout outs ever in the history of the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast.

02:47:46.000 CF, Hassan, Static, G.I. Joe, J.R. Chino Excel, Bout It, Poison Pen...

02:47:53.000 Rebel Arms forever.

02:47:54.000 You already know.

02:47:55.000 Stronghold, baby.

02:47:55.000 Shout out to Alienware MMA. Follow Alienware MMA on Twitter.

02:47:59.000 They provide us with these badass computers.

02:48:02.000 We support them because they support mixed martial arts fighters.

02:48:05.000 There's a lot of fighters that are supported by Alienware.

02:48:08.000 I'm a big fan of supporting companies that help out fighters, especially guys up and coming.

02:48:13.000 And sponsor them.

02:48:14.000 And Alienware does that. 0.62

02:48:15.000 So thank you to them.

02:48:15.000 Thank you to Onnit.com.

02:48:17.000 Go to O-N-N-I-T. Get yourself some Alpha Brain, son.

02:48:20.000 I was on it the entire podcast. 0.98

02:48:22.000 Like, damn, where's Joe Rogan? 0.99

02:48:23.000 Coming up with these ideas. 0.99

02:48:25.000 I tell you, it's weed and Alpha Brain. 1.00

02:48:27.000 Weed, Alpha Brain, and then that creates the octopus with the fucking shark head. 1.00

02:48:31.000 A shout-out to all you silly bitches in the L.A. City Council that decided to ban these medical marijuana dispensaries. 1.00

02:48:37.000 You all need to do some fucking yoga classes while you're high on a pot brownie. 1.00

02:48:42.000 So you understand what the fuck you're blocking. 1.00

02:48:44.000 You're blocking evolution. 0.99

02:48:45.000 You're blocking love.

02:48:47.000 You're blocking camaraderie.

02:48:50.000 And you're blocking medicine from sick people. 1.00

02:48:52.000 You're blocking medicine that can cure cancer like cured Tommy Chong's fucking cancer. 0.98

02:48:57.000 You're making it difficult for something awesome to get around. 0.99

02:49:00.000 That's what you're doing.

02:49:01.000 You think you're protecting people from crime.

02:49:02.000 You're not.

02:49:03.000 You're just making it difficult for something awesome to get around.

02:49:05.000 Pot is awesome. 1.00

02:49:07.000 And you need some fucking pot. 1.00

02:49:08.000 Everybody who wants to stop pot needs pot. 1.00

02:49:10.000 That's reality.

02:49:11.000 Pot is love.

02:49:12.000 God is love.

02:49:13.000 Go to Onnit.com.

02:49:14.000 Get yourself some Alpha Brain.

02:49:15.000 Get yourself some Shroom Tech Sports.

02:49:17.000 It's part of the history of America.

02:49:18.000 Don't deny it.

02:49:19.000 That's just what it is. 1.00

02:49:20.000 Dirty bitches. 1.00

02:49:21.000 Don't deny it. 1.00

02:49:21.000 Get at us. 1.00

02:49:22.000 Get yourself some kettlebells and put in a fucking manly workout. 0.99

02:49:26.000 Get some battle robes from Onnit.com. 1.00

02:49:28.000 Get your swole on, kid.

02:49:30.000 Increase your libido.

02:49:32.000 Increase your thrusting power. 0.99

02:49:33.000 You gotta have those strong lower back muscles to put a hard fucking on somebody. 0.99

02:49:38.000 What is this you're showing us, bro? 0.99

02:49:39.000 It's half shark, half octopus.

02:49:41.000 Oh, there's a real thing?

02:49:42.000 It's called Sharktopus.

02:49:44.000 You said that and you didn't even know?

02:49:46.000 I know somebody.

02:49:49.000 Oh, look at it.

02:49:50.000 It's hilarious. 1.00

02:49:51.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.54

02:49:51.000 Oh, this thing is awesome. 0.54

02:49:53.000 Shout out to Olive Garden.

02:49:54.000 Yeah, shout out to...

02:49:55.000 Alright, Onnit.com.

02:49:57.000 Case off some kettlebells.

02:49:58.000 Use the code name ROGAN and you will save yourself 10% off Alpha Brain, Shroom Tech Sport, Bone Strong.

02:50:05.000 We got a bone strengthening supplement, ladies and gentlemen.

02:50:08.000 All the information and the science behind all this stuff is at Onnit.com.

02:50:11.000 O-N-N-I-T. Use the code name ROGAN. Save yourself 10% off.

02:50:15.000 But we can't give any more money off the kettlebells because they're as cheap as we can sell them.

02:50:18.000 You can't get any better battle ropes.

02:50:20.000 You can't get any cheaper battle ropes. 0.99

02:50:22.000 Go get them, you dirty bitches, at Onnit.com. 1.00

02:50:24.000 Look at this. 1.00

02:50:25.000 Sharktopus is the greatest thing of all time.

02:50:27.000 We out of here.

02:50:28.000 Thank you to Immortal Technique.

02:50:29.000 Follow him on Twitter.

02:50:30.000 Immortal Tech, T-E-C-H, on Twitter.

02:50:33.000 And follow Brian Redband, R-E-D-B-A-N. Death Squad Super Show, Friday night, 10.30, here at the Ice House.

02:50:40.000 With Mad Flavor, a.k.a.

02:50:42.000 Joey Diaz.

02:50:43.000 Brian Redband, right in front of me.

02:50:45.000 Josh McDermott, our pal, originally from Phoenix, Arizona.

02:50:49.000 What show is he on?

02:50:49.000 What is that show again?

02:50:51.000 What show is Josh on?

02:50:52.000 He's on a show.

02:50:53.000 Retired at 35, I think it is.

02:50:56.000 Well, we'll find out when we see him.

02:50:57.000 He'll be on the Ice House Chronicles as well, which is only available on Death Squad on iTunes.

02:51:02.000 So go check that out.

02:51:03.000 We love you guys.

02:51:04.000 And we'll see you tomorrow with Rob Wolf, the inventor of the paleo diet.

02:51:07.000 Friday, it's Maynard from Tool.

02:51:09.000 Holla! 1.00

02:51:09.000 I'll see you all in August when I come back for this tour. 1.00

02:51:12.000 Immortal Technique, ladies and gentlemen.

02:51:13.000 I'm out of here, baby.

02:51:14.000 He will return.

02:51:15.000 He will return.

02:51:17.000 How did you afford all that polo?

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 25, 2012

Joe Rogan Experience #244 - Immortal Technique

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