The Joe Rogan Experience - July 26, 2012


Joe Rogan Experience #245 - Robb Wolf

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Robb Wolf
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In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, the boys talk about some of their favorite audiobooks, some of the cool things they like to do in their cars, and the weirdest things they would like to see computers do in the future. They also talk about the new Alienware laptop they're working on, and why you should wear reading glasses to work on your computer. Also, the guys talk about why they don't like the new Windows 8.1 operating system and why they think it's not as good as Windows 7. Joe also talks about how he doesn't know how to use Braille and why it's a good thing he's not using a computer with an operating system that doesn't have a built-in Braille chip, which is why he needs to start learning how to read with a different type of eyepiece. And of course, there's a new sponsor, so don't miss that! Subscribe to the show on Audible, where you get ad-free versions of the show wherever you re listening to the pod. the pod is produced. If you don't already have an Audible account, use the promo code JOEJOE at checkout to get 20% off your first month with discount code Joesocialist, and you'll get 10% off the entire month for the rest of the month! Thanks to our sponsor, Brian Ohlsen! and a free copy of his new book, The War of Art: Winning the Creative Battle by George Guidal! if you like it, go check it out! You'll get a copy of The War Of Art, Winning the Battle, G-U-A-LADYO-E-L-LOL! Thank you, Brian O'Brien! Joe and the boys are working on a new book called "Winning the Battle" by George G-D-A LADY! by Rob Wolf, and it's available on Amazon Prime Day, so be sure to check out the book on Tuesday, February 1st, 2019! It's $99.99, starting on Monday, February 15th, 2019, so you'll have a chance to buy a copy on the 14th, so that you can be the first one! of the book! We'll be shipping it out on the 15th of March, the day after the book is available on the 16th, 2020!

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00:00:03.000 2-1.
00:00:03.000 You're going to give me a 2-1?
00:00:05.000 Ladies and gentlemen, and this is how it begins.
00:00:08.000 The Joe Rogan Experience Podcast is brought to you today.
00:00:11.000 We have a new sponsor today, Brian.
00:00:13.000 Oh, we do.
00:00:13.000 Just for today's show.
00:00:14.000 It's audible.com. 0.99
00:00:16.000 And if you're interested, if you travel, if you do anything where you're in your car and you're commuting, audiobooks are the shit. 0.99
00:00:25.000 I'm a fucking huge fan of audiobooks. 0.99
00:00:27.000 The Steve Martin one is the most highly recommended Audible book you can possibly get. 0.84
00:00:32.000 Is it him? 0.99
00:00:33.000 Because it's Steve Martin fucking doing it. 1.00
00:00:35.000 And it's like listening to a movie. 0.99
00:00:36.000 Because he's talking about his life.
00:00:38.000 It's brilliant.
00:00:40.000 He's one of those dudes that I would love to talk to, but I would never talk to him.
00:00:43.000 I'd be terrified.
00:00:44.000 That's my dream.
00:00:45.000 I think Braille is kind of tough on Audible, but other than that. 0.99
00:00:50.000 They don't have Braille on Audible, you silly goose. 0.95
00:00:52.000 Could they make Braille from the internet? 0.98
00:00:54.000 It's probably just a triangle sound.
00:00:56.000 Like, ding, ding, ding, ding.
00:00:57.000 Like Morse code.
00:00:58.000 It's Morse code.
00:00:59.000 Wow. 1.00
00:00:59.000 What the fuck? 1.00
00:01:01.000 Is that possible? 1.00
00:01:01.000 I guess it is, right? 1.00
00:01:02.000 Right.
00:01:03.000 Well, if you look at, like, Sumerian text, all the old, the most ancient languages, it was a symbol, a bunch of, a series of the same symbols.
00:01:12.000 Like, ones and twos and threes.
00:01:13.000 Like, they didn't really vary that much.
00:01:15.000 They all pretty much look the same. 0.97
00:01:16.000 It's fucking crazy when you start and think about that. 0.97
00:01:20.000 You could make Braille. 0.99
00:01:22.000 Braille works.
00:01:23.000 It's just little dots, but that works too.
00:01:26.000 You could literally express your language through that.
00:01:28.000 The whole thing. 1.00
00:01:29.000 Yeah, the whole fucking thing. 0.99
00:01:30.000 That has nothing to do with Audible.com, though. 0.99
00:01:33.000 We got sidetracks, son!
00:01:36.000 Any way, Audible.com is a great resource for any audiobooks, and there's some that you can get from our friends that have been on the podcast for, like Bobcat Goldwaite.
00:01:46.000 He's got a great audiobook called, I Don't Mean to Insult You, But You Look Like Bobcat Goldwaite.
00:01:52.000 And it's narrated by him, so it's got to be awesome.
00:01:56.000 And you can get that on audible.com.
00:01:58.000 And if you are interested in, go to audible.com.
00:02:03.000 I can't even read anymore, ladies and gentlemen.
00:02:05.000 Oh, Joe, you need to start wearing glasses, man.
00:02:08.000 Audible Podcast.
00:02:09.000 Yeah, I know.
00:02:10.000 Audiblepodcast.com forward slash Joe Rogan.
00:02:12.000 I do.
00:02:13.000 I need some reading glasses.
00:02:14.000 You know what you need to do?
00:02:15.000 You need to do what Ari does. 1.00
00:02:16.000 He goes and finds the coolest pair of sunglasses, you know?
00:02:20.000 And then he just busts out the frames and puts in...
00:02:23.000 Well, you know what it is?
00:02:23.000 This Alienware laptop has a super high resolution.
00:02:26.000 In my defense, the print is tiny, teensy-weensy.
00:02:29.000 It's really hard to read.
00:02:30.000 Oh, yeah.
00:02:30.000 Totally is.
00:02:31.000 I fucked up. 0.97
00:02:32.000 I don't know how to fix it, though. 0.98
00:02:33.000 It's display properties.
00:02:34.000 I'm a Mac person.
00:02:35.000 I don't know how to use this nonsense.
00:02:37.000 Isn't it control panel display properties or something like that?
00:02:39.000 Or is that Mac?
00:02:40.000 I can't...
00:02:42.000 Whatever.
00:02:43.000 I'll just deal with it.
00:02:44.000 Remember how the control panel in Windows turned into more of a weird list?
00:02:48.000 And it's like, wait, I need icons.
00:02:49.000 And you had to go back to Classic View.
00:02:52.000 Now I can't find Classic View in Windows 7. Can you?
00:02:54.000 I haven't even tried.
00:02:56.000 I know.
00:02:57.000 Anyway, go to audible.com, audiblepodcast.com, what?
00:03:02.000 No, audiblepodcast.com forward slash Joe Rogan, and go check out some of the cool books.
00:03:10.000 A book that I recommend, one of my favorite books is The War of Art, Winning the Inner Creative Battle.
00:03:15.000 It's by Steven Pressfield, and it's narrated by a dude named George...
00:03:21.000 I don't want to say his name wrong.
00:03:22.000 Guidal.
00:03:23.000 G-U-I-D-A-L-L. Guidal.
00:03:26.000 But that's one of my favorite, most inspirational books as far as creativity goes.
00:03:32.000 And it'd be even better if someone could say it for you.
00:03:35.000 You don't even have to use your eyeballs.
00:03:37.000 Audio books are better.
00:03:38.000 I just downloaded Sex at Dawn yesterday from Christopher Ryan.
00:03:42.000 Yeah.
00:03:43.000 That guy was just on my friend Duncan's podcast.
00:03:45.000 And I'm going to try to get him on mine, too.
00:03:47.000 He sounds like a fascinating guy.
00:03:49.000 Yeah.
00:03:49.000 But your book, this is Rob Wolf we're talking to here, is not available on audio yet.
00:03:55.000 Not yet, soon.
00:03:55.000 Audible.
00:03:56.000 Well, get on it, son.
00:03:57.000 We're also brought to you by Onnit.com.
00:03:59.000 That's O-N-N-I-T, makers of Alpha Brain, New Mood, and Shroom Tech Sport. 1.00
00:04:04.000 And Shroom Tech Sport is the stuff that we were talking about that has the cordyceps mushrooms in it.
00:04:08.000 Totally legit.
00:04:09.000 It's legit.
00:04:10.000 It's not cheap, folks.
00:04:11.000 It's not cheap to get.
00:04:12.000 It's expensive stuff, but it really does work.
00:04:14.000 It's great for energy.
00:04:16.000 If you're a person who's into CrossFit or you're into Jiu Jitsu or something really intense, I really recommend Shroom Tech Sport.
00:04:24.000 You will feel a difference.
00:04:25.000 And it's not like an edgy difference, like a caffeine difference.
00:04:28.000 It's like a prolonged ability to work difference.
00:04:31.000 It's really interesting.
00:04:33.000 Wasn't it discovered by cattle people or something like that?
00:04:36.000 They noticed that their cows were eating them and being more active?
00:04:40.000 Cordyceps is an old traditional Chinese medicine gig.
00:04:44.000 Like, it's grown out of this fungus that grows on a caterpillar.
00:04:48.000 It's totally crazy.
00:04:48.000 Whoa.
00:04:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:04:50.000 So there's all kinds of weird stuff going on with it, but it's been in Chinese medicine for ages, and then Olympic athletes using it.
00:04:56.000 It does some cool stuff.
00:04:58.000 It's a fascinating way.
00:05:00.000 I mean, how do you find that out? 0.98
00:05:02.000 How many fuckers died eating weird things growing on caterpillars and stuff? 0.99
00:05:08.000 And they're like, dude, okay, this guy now is jacked and can run up the hill. 1.00
00:05:12.000 Yeah, how the fuck? 0.99
00:05:14.000 A weird mushroom that grows on a caterpillar. 1.00
00:05:18.000 That's so ridiculous. 0.96
00:05:19.000 It's caterpillar poop, bro. 1.00
00:05:20.000 It's caterpillar poop.
00:05:21.000 It's like moth poop.
00:05:22.000 You became enlightened by smoking moth poop.
00:05:24.000 That's right. 0.99
00:05:25.000 What the fuck is wrong with people? 0.97
00:05:27.000 How does anyone ever find that out with all the time in the earth? 0.99
00:05:30.000 I think you're really hungry that day.
00:05:33.000 Like, you're really hungry.
00:05:34.000 And they just notice that when they eat this certain caterpillar that has this funky smell to it, maybe, that's the cordyceps mushrooms on the caterpillar?
00:05:42.000 Yeah.
00:05:43.000 But how'd they figure out that it's the mushroom that does it, not the caterpillar?
00:05:46.000 Hmm.
00:05:47.000 I don't know.
00:05:48.000 Imagine if they fucked that up for a while and we were all just eating caterpillars hoping to get yoked.
00:05:51.000 No, no, no.
00:05:52.000 It's the other piece.
00:05:53.000 You're throwing away the wrong piece. 1.00
00:05:55.000 Eating shitty bugs. 0.99
00:05:56.000 Most bugs do not taste that bad, contrary to popular belief. 0.99
00:05:59.000 When we ate bugs on Fear Factor, I ate quite a few bugs.
00:06:02.000 They really don't taste bad.
00:06:04.000 It's the psychological thing.
00:06:06.000 The mouthfeel.
00:06:07.000 The crunchiness, but they're really bland.
00:06:10.000 They don't taste bad.
00:06:12.000 There's a lot of stuff that tastes a lot worse than bugs.
00:06:14.000 Anyway, on.com, go get yourself some Shroom Tech Sports, son.
00:06:18.000 Get your workout on.
00:06:19.000 We also have kettlebells and battle ropes in, which I just started using battle ropes.
00:06:25.000 I have never done that before.
00:06:26.000 But man, that's an awesome workout.
00:06:28.000 An awkward, weird workout, too.
00:06:30.000 It'll bust you up.
00:06:31.000 You're supposed to wear clothes, Joe. 0.99
00:06:33.000 No, man, I'm fucking... 0.99
00:06:35.000 I do a caveman style. 0.99
00:06:36.000 I think it's important.
00:06:37.000 Everything you do, you should be able to do naked.
00:06:41.000 But what battle ropes are is like 40-foot ropes. 0.98
00:06:44.000 They're big, thick, like the kind you'd use on a giant ship or some shit. 0.90
00:06:49.000 And you throw your arms around. 0.97
00:06:52.000 You do all these crazy exercises with them.
00:06:54.000 And it's amazing for endurance, man.
00:06:56.000 I mean, it really...
00:06:57.000 It really blows you out so fast.
00:06:59.000 And it's really grappling specific too.
00:07:01.000 You're pushing and pulling, you're stabilizing the midline, so yeah, they're good.
00:07:04.000 It seems like it would completely translate.
00:07:07.000 And between that, kettlebells, chin-ups, and bodyweight squats, that's pretty much all I do.
00:07:14.000 Everything I do is with kettlebells.
00:07:16.000 It's either kettlebells or battle ropes.
00:07:19.000 And battle ropes is a new thing.
00:07:20.000 It's like, I don't want to do anything else.
00:07:22.000 I have no time for...
00:07:24.000 There's not enough time in the world.
00:07:25.000 I want to be able to get strength and conditioning done quickly.
00:07:29.000 So for me, doing the whole body like as one big motion like that, you know, like kettlebell type stuff or cleaning jerks, you know, that to me is like, feels like the stuff that translates the most to real world strength.
00:07:42.000 Yeah, and it shouldn't take you that long too.
00:07:44.000 And you see a lot of people spend, particularly in the fighting scene, spending too much time in the gym and not enough time just refining skill set.
00:07:50.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:07:50.000 They get to a point where they think that conditioning is the end all be all.
00:07:54.000 Until you fight a guy who's got great skill and conditioning. 0.98
00:07:57.000 And then you realize, well, nah, I fucked myself because I spent too many days running up hills and not enough days working on my head movement. 0.98
00:08:05.000 That has nothing to do with kettlebells. 0.98
00:08:09.000 And or battle ropes, which are for sale at Onnit.com.
00:08:12.000 It does.
00:08:12.000 It's smart conditioning.
00:08:13.000 Yeah, it is.
00:08:15.000 All this stuff, when it comes to supplements, nootropics are a very controversial subject.
00:08:20.000 And because of that, we want to make sure that nobody ever feels ripped off.
00:08:23.000 You buy Alpha Brain, the first 30 pills uses a 100% money back guarantee. 0.99
00:08:27.000 If you don't like it, you don't even have to send the pills back to say this shit doesn't work. 0.99
00:08:30.000 It does. 0.99
00:08:31.000 That's why we're willing to do that.
00:08:33.000 And that's why I use it.
00:08:35.000 I wouldn't use it.
00:08:36.000 I wouldn't tell you to use it if I didn't believe in it.
00:08:39.000 I think there's a lot of essential nutrients that can benefit people.
00:08:43.000 And most people aren't taking them.
00:08:46.000 Fish oils and eating a healthy diet. 0.98
00:08:49.000 But there are certain nutrients that have been proven and shown in tests to have a positive effect on your mental clarity, your ability to solve problems, your ability to See things, like a recent ingredient in AlphaBrain, I don't even remember the name of this shit. 0.95
00:09:04.000 I should look it up. 0.97
00:09:06.000 Especially with you here, because you're super smart.
00:09:09.000 What's in this?
00:09:11.000 It's all like, it's nootropics.
00:09:13.000 It's all vitamins for mental function. 1.00
00:09:16.000 If you can read all the ingredients in this dark room, you're like an eagle-eyed motherfucker. 0.99
00:09:22.000 Yeah, it's a bunch of... 0.99
00:09:25.000 Bunch of stuff that stimulates dopamine release.
00:09:27.000 Yeah, it's all stimulating your neurotransmitters.
00:09:31.000 And for me, what it does is it helps...
00:09:33.000 I don't know.
00:09:34.000 It sounds ridiculous, but it helps things feel smoother.
00:09:36.000 It helps my thoughts flow better and smoother.
00:09:38.000 And we have a shitload of positive responses from people that have used it.
00:09:43.000 So if you're interested, check it out.
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00:09:47.000 All right, you freaks.
00:09:48.000 Rob Wolf is here.
00:09:49.000 We're ready to get this party started.
00:09:52.000 We're going to learn...
00:09:55.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:09:58.000 Train by day.
00:09:59.000 Joe Rogan Podcast by night.
00:10:00.000 All day.
00:10:06.000 Dude.
00:10:08.000 Hey. 1.00
00:10:08.000 What the fuck did you do, Brian? 1.00
00:10:11.000 Hey, man. 1.00
00:10:12.000 Thanks for doing this.
00:10:13.000 I appreciate it.
00:10:13.000 I appreciate you coming on.
00:10:14.000 My pleasure, man.
00:10:17.000 You've sort of like this whole thing, this paleo solution.
00:10:20.000 Your book is like...
00:10:23.000 I think started like a new level of people thinking about health and about what the body is naturally supposed to be breaking down.
00:10:34.000 How did you do that?
00:10:35.000 How did you figure out what so many before hadn't?
00:10:40.000 Well, you know, I've got to give a bunch of credit to my professor, Loren Cordain, because he's the guy that did a ton of the research really early on.
00:10:48.000 So almost 15 years ago, further back than that, I was a California State powerlifting champion.
00:10:54.000 I was into kickboxing.
00:10:55.000 I was totally into athletics and all that.
00:10:58.000 And always trying to figure out what's the best way to fuel my body, like looking for better performance.
00:11:02.000 And I tried a high-carb, low-fat, vegan diet.
00:11:05.000 And I went from 185 pounds, able to back squat almost 600 pounds, down to 135 pounds, and like sick.
00:11:14.000 I had all kinds of gut problems, ulcerative colitis, irritable bowel, like all kinds of poop-related stuff.
00:11:19.000 And this idea of the paleo diet just...
00:11:23.000 It was kind of weird how it got onto my radar, but I was kind of thinking, okay, these Neolithic foods, grains, legumes, and dairy, seem to have some problems for us with regards to health.
00:11:33.000 And so I started eating that way, and then I was a research biochemist at the time doing lipid metabolism research related to cancer and autoimmune disease.
00:11:41.000 So I was able to experiment on myself and then also do some research And that's how I, you know, this whole kind of evolutionary biology thing got on my radar and opened a gym, started, you know, using this with our clients.
00:11:55.000 Our gym made Men's Health Top 30 Gyms in America within a couple of years.
00:11:59.000 And then the book has been on the bestseller list for like two years.
00:12:03.000 And like there's been no marketing budget, nothing other than just like word of mouth.
00:12:08.000 People buy the book, they get benefit, and then they, you know, they just go from there.
00:12:11.000 That's pretty incredible, man.
00:12:13.000 That's like a diet revolution.
00:12:16.000 And, you know, I've talked to a lot of fighters that take it.
00:12:19.000 I know Frank Mir is on a paleo diet.
00:12:22.000 I'm sure a lot of other ones are as well.
00:12:24.000 There's a ton of people, you know, and I just encourage people to tinker with something.
00:12:29.000 Like, there's a lot of guys doing vegan diets right now, and they see a performance boost.
00:12:32.000 That's totally cool.
00:12:33.000 Like, I think that people should get in, maybe get some blood work before they start a change.
00:12:39.000 Track biomarkers of health and disease.
00:12:41.000 Do it for 30 days.
00:12:42.000 See how they look, feel, and perform.
00:12:43.000 Check it again.
00:12:44.000 It should be really empirical.
00:12:46.000 There's some theory behind all this stuff, but you should really get in and it should be your personal experience that dictates this.
00:12:53.000 And if it's not making you perform better, if you don't sleep better, if your body comp isn't better, then do something else.
00:12:58.000 Is a paleo diet good for everybody?
00:13:01.000 Or are there some different body types that would enjoy a different diet? 0.99
00:13:06.000 Or do you think that's the optimum diet just for human beings?
00:13:09.000 I think it's good for everybody, but within that, some guys are going to do pretty well on low carb, other people are going to bonk, and they're going to do terribly.
00:13:17.000 Just for the total layman, when it comes down to nutrition, explain to people exactly what it means, the Paleo diet.
00:13:24.000 It means what people ate essentially during the Paleolithic period?
00:13:27.000 Yeah, and this is a period of time when we really changed from the previous ancestors when you look in the anthropological record.
00:13:34.000 And when you look at our genetics, it's pretty darn similar to what the people were living during the Paleolithic time.
00:13:42.000 And we can kind of verify that with different, like there's this place, the Max Planck Institute of Evolutionary Genetics in Leipzig, Germany, you know, and they do all the kind of scientific validation of this stuff.
00:13:52.000 But, you know, at Brasstacks, really, it's talking about eating lots of fruits and vegetables, roots and tubers, lean meats, and kind of steering away from grains, legumes, and dairy.
00:14:03.000 These newer foods that, for a lot of people, cause a lot of problems.
00:14:07.000 That's a fascinating thing when you think about it, how our technology and our ability to process food and grow food and store food has evolved much faster than the body is capable of doing on its own.
00:14:20.000 Right.
00:14:21.000 It's kind of a fascinating thing with human beings, is that we essentially have the same bodies that cavemen did, but we have all this new stuff that we've sort of added to the mix, and we haven't really figured out what the long-term effects of this are.
00:14:36.000 Yeah, and you know, everything from sleep, like if you start doing some Googling around on like sleep and health, sleep and diabetes, you know, we don't sleep the way that we used to.
00:14:45.000 We used to, the sun went down and we went down.
00:14:47.000 You know, the sun comes up, we get up.
00:14:49.000 Now we have this extended photo period.
00:14:51.000 We have light on us all the time and it messes with our circadian rhythm, the way that we release melatonin, the way that we heal.
00:14:58.000 So, you know, the whole lifestyle package, exercise, nutrition, The lifestyle, the way that we don't really interact with a social group the way that, you know, it's kind of wired in.
00:15:08.000 I think that that's why things like CrossFit, different gyms, different social networks are really valuable for people.
00:15:14.000 Because we live in a, you know, we're tribal in our DNA. Like, we see that out.
00:15:18.000 And if you don't have it, it fucks with you. 0.98
00:15:20.000 Like, it damages you. 0.99
00:15:21.000 Wow, that's interesting.
00:15:23.000 So what's fun about CrossFit is that you become a part of a team and you all work together and you're like fellow CrossFitters.
00:15:29.000 Yeah.
00:15:30.000 Well, I see that for sure in Jiu Jitsu.
00:15:33.000 I see that in martial arts.
00:15:34.000 It's always been the case in martial arts.
00:15:36.000 You know, your gym becomes like your family.
00:15:38.000 Yeah, the exercise becomes almost secondary.
00:15:42.000 It's like making sure that you see people.
00:15:45.000 Yeah, that's true.
00:15:46.000 That's definitely true.
00:15:47.000 It is fascinating how our needs are essentially the same, but wow, have we done a crazy job of changing our environment in such a short period of time.
00:15:57.000 It's almost like we just really can't keep up with that.
00:16:00.000 What we've been able to do, our body just can't keep up with it.
00:16:03.000 Yeah. 0.87
00:16:04.000 Plain travel and shit like that. 0.64
00:16:06.000 Right. 0.98
00:16:06.000 And if you look at some native populations, they are crushed by type 2 diabetes and autoimmune diseases. 0.98
00:16:13.000 And they were eating basically a paleo-type diet maybe only a couple hundred years ago.
00:16:18.000 So depending on...
00:16:21.000 Your genetic ancestry, you might be able to deal with, you know, high fructose corn syrup or something a little bit better than somebody else that's maybe like Native American or African American because their ancestry is just young enough with regards to being exposed to this modern environment that they don't cope with it. 0.93
00:16:40.000 Like it's that much more damaging to them.
00:16:42.000 Wow.
00:16:45.000 So, what about processed foods?
00:16:47.000 What about like ingredients of processed foods?
00:16:50.000 What are the long-term negative effects of, you know, you hear that processed foods are bad for people.
00:16:55.000 What are the long-term effects of eating something that has so much preservatives in it that it can just sit around?
00:17:01.000 You know, you just look around and you look at like the diabetes epidemic and, you know, autism spectrum accelerating.
00:17:11.000 It's just everything from cancer, diabetes, heart disease, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's.
00:17:15.000 All of this is related to this process called inflammation.
00:17:18.000 And inflammation is kind of an overactivity of the immune response.
00:17:21.000 And interesting with the Cordyceps product, it actually modulates the immune response.
00:17:26.000 It makes the immune system do what it's supposed to do.
00:17:28.000 Whether you're under stress or exercising or whatever, and that's kind of the benefit of that stuff.
00:17:33.000 And the negative part of the way that we're living, we don't get enough sleep, we eat the wrong types of foods, we don't really exercise enough, and all of that kind of sends a weird signal to our immune system, and it tends to make you diabetic, or it can make you autoimmune, or it can accelerate things like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's.
00:17:48.000 So, you know, we're facing, there's some projections, and this is from like, you know, governmental agencies or as orthodox as it gets.
00:17:57.000 We're looking at by like 2030 that, you know, we're going to have a 300% of GDP being allocated to our debt, and then most of that being allocated to healthcare.
00:18:08.000 And it's nuts.
00:18:10.000 We know more about disease and cancer and everything than we've ever known, but yet people are getting sicker faster than they ever have.
00:18:18.000 It's crazy.
00:18:19.000 And it's just a lack of nutrition and the lack of supplying the body with what it's always had.
00:18:27.000 What it's really wired up to eat.
00:18:28.000 The essentials, the vegetables, the fresh vegetables and fresh meats. 0.97
00:18:34.000 Why does stuff that's processed taste so fucking good? 0.91
00:18:38.000 Why is Twinkie so delicious? 0.99
00:18:41.000 There's a bunch of food chemists that put all their kids through school by figuring out there's this thing called palatability. 0.98
00:18:46.000 And if you can make something hyperpalatable, like it tastes so good...
00:18:52.000 Then you actually override the mechanisms in the brain that normally tell you I'm full.
00:18:56.000 Like if you sit down and eat some chicken and some fruit and like some yams, you'll eat until you're full and you're done and you're not gonna get up and you know dust another plate of that.
00:19:06.000 But when you tinker with these foods and you make them really crunchy, you add some salt, you add some high fructose corn syrup, these things become hyper palatable and it turns off the part of the brain that tells you I'm full and it would be like You know, you're filling up your gas at the gas station, and if you turn off the mechanism to know when the gas tank is full, it's kind of the same analogy, like you just keep pumping stuff in there and you have a disaster brewing.
00:19:28.000 How much does someone get to be like 700 pounds?
00:19:32.000 And you see these people that have to get cut out of their houses.
00:19:34.000 Is that even possible without processed foods?
00:19:37.000 I don't think so.
00:19:38.000 I don't think so.
00:19:39.000 And it's usually liquid foods.
00:19:40.000 That didn't exist before, right?
00:19:41.000 Just super rare.
00:19:42.000 You know, hospitals are retooling everything.
00:19:46.000 Hospitals, fire departments, police departments are being forced to retool everything that they have.
00:19:50.000 Their beds, their gurneys, even the openings in their doorways because people are getting so big.
00:19:57.000 And it never happened in the past.
00:19:58.000 You know, 1950s, it never really happened like that.
00:20:01.000 And we ate a little more fat.
00:20:03.000 We didn't have as much processed food.
00:20:04.000 We didn't have high fructose corn syrup.
00:20:06.000 People tended to sleep a little more.
00:20:08.000 Like, the sleep is big.
00:20:08.000 Even though I'm like the food guy, I'm always talking about sleep.
00:20:12.000 Because it just messes you up when you don't get enough.
00:20:15.000 When you look at those turn of the century people, they were all like little wiry dudes.
00:20:19.000 Looked like they could just work all day.
00:20:20.000 Little wiry dude, work all day.
00:20:22.000 And they did, yeah.
00:20:23.000 It's weird how much people have changed.
00:20:26.000 The average size for a man was like 125 pounds. 0.96
00:20:30.000 We don't realize how fucking big we've got. 0.99
00:20:33.000 Right. 0.98
00:20:34.000 And not good big.
00:20:34.000 Relatively quickly.
00:20:36.000 Not good big at all.
00:20:37.000 It's weird.
00:20:38.000 It's weird that it can happen so quickly.
00:20:40.000 There's a photograph from the turn of the century.
00:20:44.000 And there was a guy who was a sideshow.
00:20:46.000 This guy who played the fat man in the sideshow.
00:20:48.000 I don't know if you've seen this. 0.90
00:20:49.000 The image came out kind of recently because it's ridiculous because the guy's not even that fat by today's standards.
00:20:55.000 There's no way you'd pay to see him. 0.99
00:20:56.000 But back then it was like, whoa, what the fuck is this? 0.99
00:20:59.000 He was literally a sideshow freak. 0.99
00:21:02.000 I guess you would have to eat insane amounts of like regular good healthy food to get that big.
00:21:07.000 And you know it's that thing again where like you just you get full from real food so it's really hard to overeat it but if you have something that turns off literally the mechanism in your brain that says I'm full like if that never kicks in then you can just keep going and going.
00:21:22.000 It's so creepy but yet so delicious.
00:21:24.000 Indeed.
00:21:24.000 Therein lies the problem.
00:21:25.000 It is so delicious. 0.97
00:21:26.000 Do you allow yourself cheat days where you eat shitty foods? 0.74
00:21:29.000 You know, I do some Mexican food and I do like some corn tortillas and stuff like that. 0.90
00:21:33.000 I'm super allergic to wheat.
00:21:35.000 So it's just, that stuff's just a no-go.
00:21:37.000 Like it can't happen.
00:21:38.000 No wheat at all?
00:21:39.000 None.
00:21:39.000 Your whole life?
00:21:41.000 You know, I was sick as a kid a lot and it was probably all like wheat and oats and stuff like that. 1.00
00:21:47.000 Holy shit. 0.98
00:21:48.000 So I'll kick my heels up, but I tend to like to burn my carbs more from booze versus crappy food. 0.99
00:21:55.000 So you actually count your carbs?
00:21:57.000 I don't really count it, but if I'm going to shit the bed on something, I'd rather it be alcohol than Twinkies or something.
00:22:05.000 Yeah, Twinkies is just a horrible feeling when it's over. 0.94
00:22:08.000 It's like, what did I do?
00:22:10.000 It's just so much disappointment, you know, when I eat like a ring ding or something like that.
00:22:15.000 Right. 0.99
00:22:15.000 As soon as you're cleaning your fingers, I'm like, what the fuck, dude? 0.99
00:22:19.000 Really? 0.99
00:22:19.000 But then you want another one. 0.99
00:22:20.000 Yeah, I usually don't.
00:22:22.000 Usually I'm disgusted with myself after one. 1.00
00:22:24.000 And it's really hard to get a good night's sleep if you shit your bed also, I would imagine. 0.99
00:22:29.000 You need a lot of beds around. 0.99
00:22:31.000 Yeah, you need some options.
00:22:33.000 With Twinkies, is that what you're saying? 1.00
00:22:34.000 Twinkies make you shit yourself? 1.00
00:22:36.000 No, he said that if he's going to waste any of it, he'll shit the bed. 1.00
00:22:40.000 And then earlier he said that he needs a lot of sleep, which I agree. 0.98
00:22:43.000 I spend a lot of money on mattresses because I need a deep sleep.
00:22:49.000 And so I spend as much money as I can on just the bed.
00:22:53.000 I think that's... 0.98
00:22:54.000 So many people spend like $30,000 on a car and they're in it for like 10 minutes to go to work back and forth But you're in your bed half of your life, and people buy an $800 mattress with springs going up your ass and stuff like that. 0.96
00:23:08.000 You guys should have sleep numbers. 0.99
00:23:09.000 It seems like a fucking mattress shouldn't really cost more than $800. 0.99
00:23:13.000 It should. 0.99
00:23:14.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00
00:23:15.000 Those Tempur-Pedics, it seems like they just sliced those bitches out of a box. 1.00
00:23:20.000 The Tempur-Pedics aren't that comfortable. 0.99
00:23:22.000 I just got a new mattress because I couldn't take the cat pee smell in my bed anymore.
00:23:27.000 Details.
00:23:27.000 He's been ignoring his cat, so his cat's been pissing in his bed.
00:23:31.000 So now I have this whole lockdown system with cats in my house, so they can't go into certain rooms anymore.
00:23:37.000 Oh, now they're going to hate you even more.
00:23:38.000 Yeah, I know.
00:23:39.000 One of them slapped me the other day, but it just came up to me for no reason.
00:23:43.000 It was like, smack, and then ran away. 1.00
00:23:44.000 I was like, what the fuck? 1.00
00:23:45.000 Wow, the tire of your bullshit. 1.00
00:23:46.000 You took away a spot where it was pissing. 1.00
00:23:48.000 I would be mad too.
00:23:49.000 It's like I was trying to piss in that bed, son.
00:23:51.000 But these new beds have like Tempur-Pedic and then the one I got has like a gel on top of it.
00:23:56.000 So it's like this weird gel that you're in.
00:23:58.000 It's like a little baby water bed.
00:24:00.000 Wow, you like it?
00:24:00.000 Yeah, it's pretty badass.
00:24:02.000 Do you recommend water beds?
00:24:04.000 Is it good to be in that womb-like environment? 1.00
00:24:07.000 You know, I like the sleep number, actually.
00:24:10.000 You like that thing?
00:24:10.000 Yeah, I like that thing, and I actually have mine like concrete.
00:24:14.000 Is that better for you?
00:24:15.000 It's like 95. I think it's kind of individual, but it is cool.
00:24:18.000 You can dial the thing up or down and make it fit for what you need.
00:24:21.000 I had one.
00:24:22.000 I didn't like it.
00:24:23.000 You didn't like it?
00:24:23.000 No.
00:24:24.000 What do you roll with?
00:24:25.000 I like a Tempur-Pedic better.
00:24:27.000 Yeah, I like a firm Tempur-Pedic better.
00:24:29.000 I just didn't like that one.
00:24:32.000 I've heard that you can avoid more kinks and neck things if you sleep in a harder mattress. 1.00
00:24:40.000 The harder the better.
00:24:42.000 Is that the case?
00:24:43.000 You know, it's kind of funny.
00:24:45.000 My pal is a total sleep expert, and I've grilled him on this stuff.
00:24:50.000 And he's like, you know, it just kind of depends on how you're wired up.
00:24:53.000 I think that, again, is trying to get in and do some personal experimenting.
00:24:57.000 And you should have a really good night's sleep.
00:24:58.000 You should wake up refreshed. 0.99
00:24:59.000 If you wake up and you're feeling like dog shit, then it was a bad bed. 1.00
00:25:03.000 You need something else. 1.00
00:25:04.000 But our house, we have like four spare bedrooms.
00:25:07.000 Each spare bedroom has like a $3,000 mattress in it from us trying...
00:25:11.000 These other beds.
00:25:13.000 And it's like, nah, that didn't work.
00:25:14.000 That didn't work. 0.99
00:25:15.000 And it's always the trial period is like, try it for 60 days, but you don't start feeling like shit until like 61 days. 0.98
00:25:21.000 So, yeah. 0.98
00:25:21.000 Right. 0.98
00:25:22.000 And if your bed has that like sinkhole, black hole thing that's in the middle because it's so old.
00:25:27.000 You gotta get rid of that.
00:25:27.000 You might get rid of it.
00:25:28.000 Yeah, because I found on my last bed, it had a mild version of that.
00:25:32.000 So I was always constantly like, Having to adjust my body a little just to get a more comfortable sleep because I slept on my stomach.
00:25:40.000 I always had neck pains on one side of my body from just adjusting.
00:25:44.000 And the cat pee tends to guide you. 0.98
00:25:47.000 That's a fucked up thing when you go to sleep and you hurt yourself while you're sleeping. 1.00
00:25:51.000 You just feel so stupid. 1.00
00:25:53.000 You wake up with a kink neck, you're like, come on, really? 1.00
00:25:55.000 I get charley horses all the time from dehydration.
00:25:58.000 What about hammocks?
00:25:59.000 Wouldn't that be the way to go?
00:26:01.000 A hammock might be cool.
00:26:02.000 You could check out a hammock.
00:26:03.000 A hammock would be sweet.
00:26:05.000 A hammock seems like the way to go.
00:26:06.000 Like a nice leather hammock in your bedroom.
00:26:08.000 Yeah, just sleep in a hammock, man.
00:26:10.000 It seems like it would support you, like, really kind of evenly.
00:26:14.000 You'd get pockets on the side of it.
00:26:15.000 Add one in high school.
00:26:16.000 Yeah?
00:26:17.000 I just, like, nailed it up to the wall.
00:26:18.000 Yeah.
00:26:19.000 Yeah?
00:26:20.000 How much sleep does a human being need?
00:26:22.000 Eight to ten.
00:26:23.000 Eight to ten.
00:26:23.000 In a pitch black room.
00:26:25.000 Yeah.
00:26:26.000 Period.
00:26:27.000 Yeah.
00:26:27.000 And that's like a no, you can't debate that, right?
00:26:30.000 You know, it's funny.
00:26:32.000 People will say, I only need like five or six hours of sleep.
00:26:36.000 And then inevitably, if they put up some blackout curtains, if they turn off all the lights and they actually get in an environment that's good for sleeping, then they're like, you know, ninja blow dart.
00:26:46.000 They're out for like 14 hours the first time you do it.
00:26:49.000 And then they start getting caught up on their sleep.
00:26:51.000 And these people that usually think they can get by on like 5 or 6, they discover they're like, okay, yeah, I feel way better on 8 to 10. I mean, it's a lot of time.
00:27:00.000 There's a lot of other shit you could be doing, but you just don't do it as well when you don't sleep. 0.97
00:27:04.000 Yeah, I agree. 0.96
00:27:05.000 I'm a big fan of sleep, and if I don't, I've really felt, especially as I got older, when I was younger, I could pull it off more.
00:27:13.000 Right.
00:27:13.000 But now, as I get older, if I don't have a real, legit, solid eight-hour sleep, I just don't feel like I'm on top of things.
00:27:19.000 All cylinders are not firing, yeah.
00:27:21.000 It's hard.
00:27:22.000 Even with a cup of coffee or whatever, or an exercise, it still never really quite feels right.
00:27:28.000 It's a weird thing that we just shut off.
00:27:32.000 Well, and that's why travel sucks, too, because your circadian, you know, that inner clock gets thrown off when you go east, particularly. 0.99
00:27:39.000 So, like, you go to the East Coast, you go to Europe, and you feel like shit. 0.99
00:27:41.000 So it really is. 0.99
00:27:42.000 Going east is worse than going west.
00:27:44.000 You know, that's what they always said about Japanese fighters, that the problem they had in America, like, Phil Barone actually told me this.
00:27:50.000 Yeah.
00:27:51.000 He said the problem they had in America is that when they would come here, like, coming to America completely fucks your system up.
00:27:57.000 Right.
00:27:57.000 How is that possible?
00:27:59.000 You're just, you're completely flipped around.
00:28:02.000 It's like you're fighting then when you would normally be asleep.
00:28:05.000 And it takes weeks for all that to kind of get shifted around.
00:28:09.000 And once you, you know, you do that travel, say you go from Japan to here, you go from here to Europe, your testosterone levels drop, your inflammation goes up, your immune system goes down.
00:28:19.000 And it's going to stay that way for a while because it's a stress.
00:28:22.000 It's like the same way that working out or working too much is a stress on your system.
00:28:27.000 It's going to drop all of your recovery capacity.
00:28:32.000 Yeah, it's that internal clock that kind of gets tied into the sunlight and all that stuff.
00:28:38.000 Yeah, but it just drives everything.
00:28:40.000 All your hormones, neurotransmitters, the way your gut functions, everything is tied into these internal clocks.
00:28:47.000 So if a fighter wanted to acclimate when he came to somewhere he was going to fight, should he go there at the beginning of his training camp and never leave?
00:28:54.000 I would.
00:28:55.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:28:56.000 Absolutely.
00:28:57.000 Wow.
00:28:58.000 Yeah.
00:28:58.000 And I wouldn't...
00:29:00.000 If you have it in your control...
00:29:02.000 I wouldn't travel more than three hours if you had control.
00:29:05.000 Like, if you have a well-established fighter, if they need to travel more than three hours and, you know, three time zone changes, then I would really recommend, you know, the camp at least a couple of weeks beforehand gets moved, but possibly from the beginning so that you've got the continuity.
00:29:23.000 Yeah.
00:29:24.000 Yeah, that's an element that, you know, the rest element is one that really doesn't get quite enough credit.
00:29:31.000 It doesn't get quite enough importance.
00:29:33.000 Everyone's always looking for something that you can eat that can give you energy.
00:29:37.000 Something that you can eat that'll clean you out and get you straight.
00:29:40.000 But really, one of the most important things is just shutting down. 0.99
00:29:43.000 The fuck down and just sleep it. 1.00
00:29:45.000 If you sleep well, it's hard to kill you. 1.00
00:29:47.000 If you're not sleeping well, it's almost impossible to keep you alive.
00:29:51.000 It's huge.
00:29:52.000 And you sound like a nutcase recommending this, but it's kind of like my greasy used car salesman pitch is like, dude, sleep more.
00:30:00.000 Whether it's clients trying to lean out or somebody trying to get better performance for fighting.
00:30:04.000 We had a girl that missed Olympic trials for the 2,000-meter row by a hundredth of a second. 1.00
00:30:11.000 And when you're at that level where she didn't go to the Olympics by one one-hundredth of a second, you need all your I's dotted and T's crossed.
00:30:21.000 She sleeps well, she eats paleo, she does all this stuff, but she still got edged out.
00:30:26.000 Wow.
00:30:29.000 Wow.
00:30:30.000 When you think about your life being about performing to one one-hundredth of a second better, then everything you do has to be dead on.
00:30:44.000 You'd be a paranoid freak. 0.95
00:30:45.000 You could be crazy. 0.99
00:30:47.000 She's been kind of crazy at times. 0.97
00:30:50.000 Yeah, monitoring that.
00:30:51.000 I honestly don't like... 0.88
00:30:55.000 Monitoring super high-level athletes because it is so fucking stressful. 0.61
00:30:59.000 I'm sure. 0.99
00:30:59.000 Because if I shit the bed on something, there's the whole part of me doing something wrong and then feeling guilty for it and then wanting to kill me. 0.99
00:31:06.000 And then there's the other side where you're investing hugely in this person. 1.00
00:31:09.000 And if they don't comply with what I want them to do, I want to kill them. 0.99
00:31:12.000 Because I know how important this stuff is. 0.99
00:31:15.000 And if they're like, I'm going to go out and drink anyway or I'm going to work on some other projects.
00:31:19.000 That is a thing that drives...
00:31:22.000 There's a guy named Mike Dolce who works with a lot of fighters.
00:31:26.000 If the guys don't listen to him, he's like, I don't even know why they fucking brought me here.
00:31:31.000 It's just been pointless. 0.69
00:31:33.000 Some people don't want to hear it.
00:31:34.000 They still want to do what they want to do.
00:31:36.000 Especially fighters.
00:31:37.000 Fighters have this mindset of...
00:31:39.000 If you like getting hit, I mean, there's a whole other wiring that goes on.
00:31:43.000 It's not even that.
00:31:44.000 It's like they have a crazy sort of confidence that nothing will ever go wrong.
00:31:48.000 Right.
00:31:49.000 To some degree, you need that.
00:31:52.000 I think the people that are able to take that confidence but then also understand what a good coach can bring to the table.
00:31:58.000 To some degree, step back and give up some of that responsibility.
00:32:03.000 It's like, okay, you're my coach.
00:32:04.000 I'm going to listen to you.
00:32:05.000 I don't need to worry about all the details.
00:32:07.000 I feel like fighters who are self-coached only reach a certain level.
00:32:12.000 You know, you've had some problems.
00:32:14.000 If you're self-coached, it's really hard to objectively stand back and look at your game when it's not going right.
00:32:19.000 Right.
00:32:19.000 You know, but a real, true professional, a guy who's worked guys through many levels of advancement and growth, he can see, like, issues.
00:32:28.000 He can find things that you're doing wrong.
00:32:31.000 And just, I think for an athlete, I think it's important to relent to a mentor as well.
00:32:37.000 I think you have to have someone else who you also have faith in what they have to say as well, so you're not in it by yourself.
00:32:44.000 It takes away some of the psychological burden, especially for combat sports.
00:32:48.000 I think it's very important for guys.
00:32:50.000 Some guys don't like to do it though.
00:32:51.000 They want to do everything themselves.
00:32:54.000 Yeah, but the jack of all trades, you don't go anywhere.
00:32:56.000 If you're supposed to fight, then you fight. 0.99
00:32:59.000 And you eat, sleep, and shit that. 0.99
00:33:01.000 And then somebody else monitors your food. 1.00
00:33:03.000 Somebody keeps an eye on your sleep.
00:33:05.000 You've got somebody ideally taking care of the financial side of your life and everything so that you can just focus on that one thing.
00:33:11.000 And you've got to put all of those pieces in play.
00:33:14.000 Yeah, and especially when you're thinking about fighting where the consequences are so much greater than the one one-hundredth of a second in rowing.
00:33:20.000 Right, right.
00:33:21.000 The one one-hundredth of a second, you lose that. 0.99
00:33:23.000 You're like, ah, shit, what could I have done differently? 0.99
00:33:25.000 I should have used fluoride-less toothpaste. 1.00
00:33:27.000 Right. 1.00
00:33:28.000 You start thinking crazy shit. 0.99
00:33:29.000 But when someone, that one one-hundredth of a second is someone connecting or, you know, spotting your punch, getting out of the way just in time and countering you, and you get knocked out. 0.99
00:33:39.000 Then it becomes even more crazy and even more obsessive.
00:33:43.000 Have you worked with Finders?
00:33:44.000 You know Glenn Cordoza, right?
00:33:46.000 Sure.
00:33:46.000 You know Glenn?
00:33:47.000 So we worked with Glenn.
00:33:48.000 And then just more kind of internet coaching, you know, trying to Folks have come to me when people weren't recovering, they were starting to get a ton of soft tissue injuries, bad sleep started popping up, you know, like they started getting some depression during training camp and everything and so looking at the diet, looking at lifestyle factors and I mean It all boils down to the same thing, though.
00:34:12.000 A clean diet, obviously I'm going to gear more towards a paleo gig.
00:34:17.000 Protecting the sleep area at gunpoint.
00:34:21.000 People sleep eight to ten hours if you have to kill somebody.
00:34:26.000 And then just kind of a mellow lifestyle outside the rest of that to the best of your ability to construct that.
00:34:32.000 I mean, it's 50% of your recovery probably is having that sleep.
00:34:36.000 So you can go in and train really hard and then go home and not sleep and you don't get really any of the benefit from the training session, even if you're working skills.
00:34:43.000 Say you're working a bunch of head movement and stuff like that.
00:34:46.000 That is all a skill that needs to go from one part of your brain to another.
00:34:50.000 It goes from short-term memory to long-term memory and starts getting You know, woven into like your brainstem.
00:34:55.000 It's a learned pattern.
00:34:57.000 If you don't sleep, you don't access that transition.
00:35:01.000 So it's like that training session then is just gone.
00:35:03.000 It's as if you didn't even do it.
00:35:05.000 That's crazy.
00:35:06.000 So it's like if you're going to spend the time to do it, there's a great book, another good dude you should have on that wrote The Talent Code.
00:35:12.000 And talking about like needing really good repetitions and like 10,000 repetitions in something like playing violin or learning, you know, quick draw shooting and stuff like that.
00:35:22.000 You want to do it perfect and then you need a good environment for that stuff to kind of cook in the brain and actually become a part of your person, part of the motor memory.
00:35:30.000 So it's a huge part of the game that people are just kind of, again, shitting the bed on.
00:35:36.000 You see so many people work so hard, but they almost work too hard, and then they don't give enough credence to the rest because it's like, oh, that's being lazy.
00:35:45.000 I need this work ethic.
00:35:46.000 They go all Dan Gable on you, just to push to your break.
00:35:50.000 There's a lot of wrestlers who I think that is the most overtrained and undernourished sport.
00:35:57.000 When it comes to amateur sports.
00:35:58.000 And they're tough.
00:35:58.000 They're used to being tough.
00:35:59.000 That's why they're so dangerous when they become MMA fighters.
00:36:02.000 It's because their level of mental toughness is, I believe, above and beyond any other sport.
00:36:07.000 I think the highest levels of wrestling, I think they're the most mentally tough guys in the world. 1.00
00:36:11.000 They're fucking animals. 1.00
00:36:12.000 Those guys, they don't eat for days. 1.00
00:36:15.000 Right.
00:36:15.000 And then they go and wrestle savages, you know?
00:36:18.000 Right.
00:36:18.000 I mean, just the weight cutting alone, the fact that they have to be miserable and malnourished and dehydrated in training.
00:36:25.000 It's really hard, but that's not the way to do it, right?
00:36:28.000 If you want optimum performance, it's great that it makes them so tough, but if you really want to take care of the body, that is so not the way to do it.
00:36:36.000 Yeah, I mean, staying in close to contest shape year-round, kicking your heels up a little bit, but the thing is that when people go so extreme, then when they're off-season, they gain 30 pounds of weight, and it's all hookers and cocaine.
00:36:50.000 It's a bad scene there.
00:36:52.000 But what about the overtraining?
00:36:54.000 There's a certain point of no return, right?
00:36:59.000 Where you're actually doing damage to your conditioning.
00:37:04.000 It's really common, too.
00:37:05.000 It's super common.
00:37:07.000 The people who manage it well...
00:37:09.000 Those are the folks that succeed, I think, more often.
00:37:12.000 And the people who manage it well are certainly the ones who protect their conditioning year-round.
00:37:16.000 Right.
00:37:16.000 They don't ever let themselves get out of condition.
00:37:18.000 It's a very difficult and disciplined thing to maintain, to maintain a real high level of conditioning.
00:37:24.000 But if you don't have a high level, you can't push to a higher level.
00:37:27.000 Right.
00:37:28.000 And for a lot of people, it's like when you attain a certain level, then you drop off drastically.
00:37:33.000 And then it's all about getting your body back in shape.
00:37:37.000 Like guys who get really big in between fights, like you know that those guys, like that's not the same level of commitment as say an Anderson Silva or George St. Pierre.
00:37:47.000 Right.
00:37:47.000 You're never going to see those guys fat.
00:37:49.000 Right. 1.00
00:37:49.000 You're never going to go see those guys in between fights, just drinking and fucking around. 1.00
00:37:53.000 There's none of that going on. 0.99
00:37:54.000 Right.
00:37:55.000 They're protecting their vehicle.
00:37:56.000 And so even though they're still obviously moving a lot of scale weight to make weigh-ins, it's not as dramatic a shift.
00:38:03.000 And just like when we travel, whenever you change these internal kind of signaling, the biological signaling, when you fly You know, from six time zones or eight time zones, that messes with your sleep.
00:38:15.000 If you are taking your body and forcing it to shed a bunch of weight very, very rapidly because you got out of shape, then it's more of a stress and it drops testosterone.
00:38:25.000 It impacts your immune system.
00:38:27.000 So staying as close as you can, you know, obviously like you want to be as big and strong and muscular as you can at any given body weight.
00:38:35.000 But within striking distance, being able to go down and make weight when you need to make it.
00:38:39.000 When you see guys, I don't know how aware you are, there's some crazy weight cutters out there.
00:38:46.000 Yeah.
00:38:46.000 The most recent one that I heard of is Travis View.
00:38:49.000 Right.
00:38:49.000 Fought in Bellator at 245 pounds in the cage.
00:38:53.000 205 is what he weighed in at.
00:38:55.000 Right. 0.99
00:38:55.000 That's fucking crazy! 0.99
00:38:57.000 I mean, that is fucking crazy. 1.00
00:39:01.000 Yeah, and I mean, there's some science to it. 0.98
00:39:03.000 You need somebody there with your IVs and all the rest of it. 0.99
00:39:07.000 But holy shit, what a nutty idea, the fact that you're almost dead 24 hours before you have a cage fight. 0.95
00:39:13.000 Yeah, you know, I think it'd be cool to just see it almost like Jits, where you show up and you step on the scale and you weigh what you weigh and then it just goes. 0.97
00:39:23.000 Yeah, I would like to see that too, but you can't do that if you have contracts.
00:39:29.000 Right.
00:39:29.000 You know, because dudes, if they don't have any consequences for not being at a certain weight, dudes are just going to get huge.
00:39:35.000 I mean, there's a benefit to just putting on muscle mass. 0.99
00:39:37.000 You know, the 147 weight class, you show up at 160 pounds, swole as fuck. 1.00
00:39:43.000 Like, what the hell's going on? 0.99
00:39:44.000 But I mean, then those guys would have to fight like 155s or 170s or something.
00:39:48.000 But you couldn't do that in the world of championship fighting.
00:39:51.000 Right.
00:39:51.000 Because, you know, you obviously have to schedule it long in advance.
00:39:54.000 You have to put it on pay-per-view.
00:39:56.000 So you've got to have weight classes.
00:39:58.000 But there's no way to stop people from cutting weight if that's going to be the case.
00:40:01.000 The good thing that they've done is at least give them 24 hours to rehydrate.
00:40:05.000 Right.
00:40:05.000 Which they didn't used to do.
00:40:07.000 The old days of boxing used to weigh in the day of the fight. 0.99
00:40:09.000 And guys would dehydrate, make weight, and then drink milk and eat cheese and meat or something stupid. 0.99
00:40:16.000 And be all fucked up by the time they got into the... 0.99
00:40:19.000 Still dehydrated. 0.99
00:40:20.000 Yeah, completely.
00:40:21.000 Does the IV dehydrate, when they rehydrate with IVs, does it replenish the brain as well?
00:40:26.000 Well, it replenishes everything, but I mean, the body's in a pretty rough state by that point, so I mean, it's 24 hours you can bounce back pretty good, and particularly, you know, like you said, with wrestlers, they've been used to pulling their body up and down like that, so they're a little bit more acclimatized to it, but it's rough.
00:40:43.000 Yeah.
00:40:43.000 How much of a percentage do you think it takes away from them?
00:40:47.000 It's got to be a damage.
00:40:48.000 I mean, if you're not supposed to get drunk while you're in training camp and you eat clean and everything like that, and then you do something way worse than getting drunk, you get crazy dehydrated.
00:41:00.000 I've seen guys shuffling to the scale because they can't pick their feet up.
00:41:06.000 I've seen that.
00:41:07.000 And they were going to fight in a world championship the next day.
00:41:10.000 Right.
00:41:10.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:41:11.000 And that's where, you know, are they as lean as they could be?
00:41:15.000 You know, just day in and day out.
00:41:17.000 And I don't know.
00:41:20.000 Because it takes something off.
00:41:21.000 It takes something off.
00:41:22.000 And then you just have to wonder, is it taking an equal amount out of both parties?
00:41:27.000 Because that's crazy.
00:41:28.000 I mean, there's got to be a way to find people that are really the same size and just make some sort of an honorable agreement to never get over a certain weight.
00:41:36.000 Right.
00:41:37.000 And just do it at the weight you actually are at.
00:41:38.000 Right.
00:41:39.000 Yeah.
00:41:40.000 You know, in some ways I think it would be more exciting fighting because a lot of the fatigue that I see set in in folks, it's probably the weight cut.
00:41:48.000 Oh, well, you saw like Chris Weidman and Damian Maia.
00:41:51.000 I don't know if you saw that, but it was on Fox.
00:41:52.000 Yeah.
00:41:52.000 Well, Damian Maia really just couldn't do anything with Weidman, and Weidman was way too tired from the weight cut because he took the fight on really short notice.
00:42:00.000 So the guy had to cut some insane amount of weight the day before.
00:42:03.000 And that's what they kept saying to him.
00:42:04.000 I saw what you did yesterday when you made weight.
00:42:06.000 You know, you can do anything.
00:42:08.000 You can do anything.
00:42:08.000 So the guy in the weight cup must have been death-like.
00:42:11.000 Yeah.
00:42:12.000 And then here he is fighting on Fox, you know, the next day, 24 hours later.
00:42:16.000 It's really a weird practice.
00:42:18.000 Right.
00:42:19.000 I wish we could avoid it, but I don't know how, because you have to have weight classes, right?
00:42:25.000 There's no way a guy like Joey Benavidez should be fighting Brock Lesnar, right?
00:42:30.000 So we've got to have weight classes.
00:42:31.000 This isn't 1993. Right.
00:42:33.000 So if you're going to have weight classes, it's like, how do you set them up?
00:42:38.000 Would you set them up ideally every 10 pounds, every 5 pounds?
00:42:43.000 How do you set them up to keep people from cutting the weight?
00:42:46.000 I don't think you can.
00:42:47.000 Right.
00:42:48.000 Well, I mean, again, you would do it more like a jiu-jitsu tournament where you weigh the weight.
00:42:52.000 But how could you do that with a championship fight?
00:42:54.000 Because if the guy didn't make the weight and everybody flew in from Australia to see the fight, you know what I mean?
00:43:00.000 Probably like curbside execution then. 0.69
00:43:02.000 I don't know. 0.60
00:43:03.000 It's like you get killed if you don't make weight.
00:43:06.000 I don't know.
00:43:07.000 I don't know.
00:43:08.000 And even then, they would try to be as big as possible.
00:43:11.000 There's an advantage to being big.
00:43:13.000 Look at what it's done to Aleister Overeem.
00:43:16.000 There's Aleister Overeem 1, where he was a really good fighter, very skilled. 0.96
00:43:20.000 And there's Aleister Overeem 2, where he's this fucking behemoth that's smashing people and winning the K-1 Grand Prix. 0.99
00:43:27.000 And the only difference between those is a lot of fucking muscle. 0.99
00:43:31.000 A lot of experience and a lot of muscle. 0.99
00:43:33.000 It's amazing how much it does for a really technical guy when they get strong.
00:43:38.000 Right. 1.00
00:43:39.000 You know, that shit's... 1.00
00:43:40.000 So, how are you going to have a weight class? 1.00
00:43:42.000 I don't know.
00:43:43.000 I don't know.
00:43:44.000 How are you going to have them weigh in the same day?
00:43:45.000 Dude's going to, oh, sorry, I'm 20 pounds overweight.
00:43:47.000 Not much I can do about it now.
00:43:49.000 I mean, we wouldn't want me to dehydrate and risk dying. 0.99
00:43:52.000 What the fuck do you get them to do? 0.99
00:43:54.000 Yeah, I don't know. 0.99
00:43:56.000 Other than, again, the curbside execution, you know, part of your contract, you're like, you're going to make weight or...
00:44:02.000 It should be some sort of samurai type thing.
00:44:04.000 Totally.
00:44:04.000 Or it should be an honorable...
00:44:05.000 Sipaku out there, yeah.
00:44:07.000 No, not even that.
00:44:08.000 I'm saying, like, the contract to fight.
00:44:10.000 It should be, like, no one should ever miss weight.
00:44:13.000 It should always be, like, really, really clean and easy and everyone's just, this is what you weigh.
00:44:18.000 And then you go and fight.
00:44:19.000 That would be the ideal thing to do.
00:44:21.000 The danger is, apparently, with dehydration...
00:44:25.000 That's when most of the boxing brain damage fights where guys have died.
00:44:31.000 Yeah.
00:44:32.000 Gerald McClellan was a famous weight cutter.
00:44:34.000 He's a really big guy.
00:44:35.000 A lot of those guys in the heavyweight division really never had the same problems that guys in the lighter weight divisions did.
00:44:41.000 Right.
00:44:42.000 That's a very unfortunate aspect of fighting, man.
00:44:46.000 Yeah.
00:44:46.000 I mean, you're already taking something that's pretty rough and dangerous.
00:44:50.000 Scary and dangerous.
00:44:51.000 Making it way more.
00:44:52.000 Yeah.
00:44:52.000 What are the physical effects of dehydration on the brain?
00:44:55.000 Because that's where it gets really weird, right?
00:44:57.000 You could have electrolyte imbalances where things are just literally not firing and your heart may not fire properly.
00:45:03.000 But I think a lot of it is just that fluid around the brain is the shock absorber.
00:45:09.000 Right.
00:45:09.000 So if you pull some of that away, then the brain is literally...
00:45:12.000 You've almost got...
00:45:13.000 It's kind of like a walnut that fills the whole shell.
00:45:16.000 You shake it and nothing happens.
00:45:18.000 Whereas if you've got maroon in there and then you get hit...
00:45:21.000 Then you're driving the skull into the brain at a very high velocity, which sounds bad.
00:45:26.000 I mean, you literally have less fluid up there.
00:45:29.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:45:30.000 And then what about with IVs?
00:45:32.000 Does that replace it?
00:45:33.000 It does, but I mean, 24 hours is a pretty good period.
00:45:38.000 And I'm not super up on this, but you could take somebody who's extremely dehydrated 24 hours later.
00:45:43.000 They're pretty good, but they're still after effects.
00:45:45.000 You know, I think you could probably find things in blood work that a week later, you know, like if you just shrink wrap a guy down, like you do the usual, you know, like 20-pound weight cut that you see in a lot of these fighters for like a 200-pound guy or something, 10% or more of body weight, I bet we could see things in their blood work a week later.
00:46:03.000 Like they don't fight, they just weight cut, and then we see what changes in their blood work.
00:46:08.000 I bet we could see bad stuff in their blood work a week later.
00:46:10.000 Like it leaves an impact on us.
00:46:13.000 How do you stop people from doing it then?
00:46:16.000 I mean, education?
00:46:17.000 Let fighters think about their career holistically?
00:46:20.000 Because the reality is, competitively, there is an advantage to cutting the weight.
00:46:24.000 Oh, totally.
00:46:24.000 Totally.
00:46:25.000 And I think you get as big as you can, as lean as you can, and then kind of see where that...
00:46:32.000 But then, you know, doing some field testing where you practice it.
00:46:35.000 Say like you've got some sort of a...
00:46:38.000 A metabolic workout, you know, like whether it's pads and bags or whether it's a CrossFit looking thing or something, but you've got a standard and so you weight cut at a certain starting weight, go down, rehydrate, do your whole, you know, your whole rehydration process, see how you do on this kind of standardized workout, and then maybe you gain a little bit more weight, a little bit more muscle.
00:46:59.000 Is it that much more difficult to go down and does it actually then tank your performance?
00:47:05.000 So I think you've got to get in and do some field testing, but it's hard to do that.
00:47:08.000 You know, you're already trying to get ready for fight camps and do everything else.
00:47:12.000 So, yeah.
00:47:13.000 I think that's one of the things that you brought up earlier.
00:47:15.000 Such a good point that too many fighters concentrate on conditioning instead of concentrating on skill work.
00:47:21.000 Right.
00:47:21.000 That skill work for someone who's doing something as crazy as a combat sport, it is the most important thing.
00:47:28.000 If you look at the best guys, they're not necessarily...
00:47:31.000 Like Anderson Silva, in my opinion, is the greatest...
00:47:35.000 He's not the strongest guy in the world.
00:47:37.000 He's obviously a strong guy.
00:47:38.000 But he's insanely technical.
00:47:40.000 So technical.
00:47:43.000 Everything moves fluidly.
00:47:46.000 He never has stamina problems.
00:47:48.000 He fights deep into the fifth round.
00:47:50.000 He's super efficient.
00:47:52.000 Super efficient.
00:47:54.000 George St. Pierre is another one.
00:47:56.000 It's a fascinating thing that George St. Pierre does not do any strength and conditioning during his fight camps.
00:48:02.000 Right.
00:48:02.000 He says he doesn't believe in it.
00:48:04.000 He says he might lift a little weight.
00:48:06.000 He goes, but to do that for my look, to look good.
00:48:09.000 But he's being serious.
00:48:11.000 Everything he does is wrestling, kickboxing, jiu-jitsu.
00:48:15.000 And when you look at the demands of that, how much more can you do?
00:48:18.000 If you're smart.
00:48:19.000 And just a little bit of strength or power training, a little bit of mobility work.
00:48:24.000 But let's say you want to do some cardio.
00:48:27.000 As a fighter, are you better off getting out and running?
00:48:30.000 Are you better off having somebody hold pads for you?
00:48:33.000 and you go at like 50% and you just, you get your heart rate up a little bit, you know, it's like, you know, 70, 75% of your VO2 max or whatever, but you do a little bit of that.
00:48:42.000 You do a little bit of positional sparring on the ground.
00:48:45.000 You do a little bit of clench work, but it's all at a very controlled pace.
00:48:48.000 Like are you going to get more out of that or out of putting on your sneakers and going for a run?
00:48:53.000 The only thing you get good out of going for a run is I find running to be like a form of moving meditation.
00:49:00.000 Okay, I'd buy that.
00:49:01.000 And I think that I go over things when I do just straight cardio work.
00:49:06.000 Where it's forcing me into the monotony of even just sitting on an elliptical machine.
00:49:11.000 Right.
00:49:11.000 It just forces me to think about stuff.
00:49:13.000 Right.
00:49:14.000 Because I'm like, I'm not doing anything other than this for 30 minutes.
00:49:16.000 Right. 0.99
00:49:16.000 Let's see what the fuck's going on in my head. 0.99
00:49:18.000 And then I think that might be a benefit to athletes. 0.99
00:49:22.000 Because I think...
00:49:22.000 A lot of athletes don't spend enough time visualizing.
00:49:25.000 They spend enough time thinking about the techniques and going over things in their head.
00:49:29.000 And they've shown a direct correlation between visualization and improvement in technique that's on par with practice.
00:49:34.000 That's actually doing it, yeah.
00:49:35.000 But very few people will actually go over a whole routine in their head.
00:49:39.000 Like, say if you were a wrestler and you had a series of takedowns and you put yourself into a state of concentration where you're only thinking about your wrestling and then All you do is concentrate on this power double over and over again.
00:49:52.000 See yourself penetrating, see yourself sliding off that knee, getting your hands clasped together.
00:49:57.000 If you really spent the time, like a whole full hour and a half of nothing but that, just like you would do if you were training nothing but that, I think that is a fascinating exercise to see how much it would improve a guy maybe who's not doing that, who's already very good. I think that is a fascinating exercise to see how Right.
00:50:16.000 Someone who has a hard time seeing a next plateau.
00:50:19.000 But it's a good point, too.
00:50:21.000 You've always got risk of injury, even holding pads, even doing positional sparring.
00:50:27.000 So it's actually a good point.
00:50:29.000 Like you could sit down on the elliptical.
00:50:31.000 And then do some low-level cardio, but you're not watching TV during that thing.
00:50:36.000 You're thinking through your fight strategy, whatever it is that's in your B game that you're trying to bring up, and you're really visualizing that.
00:50:43.000 You've got to think about the feel, the smell.
00:50:46.000 You've got to visualize it as detailed as you can to get the most benefit, but you're totally spot on.
00:50:52.000 There's good stuff.
00:50:53.000 And there's always dudes that either annoy you that you can think of when you're doing it, Or dudes who you're scared of rolling with. 0.94
00:51:01.000 Like there's certain dudes that I know that I fucking hate rolling with. 0.99
00:51:04.000 These motherfuckers don't get tired. 1.00
00:51:06.000 They're trying to kill you. 1.00
00:51:07.000 You're going to war for the next nine minutes or whatever it is. 1.00
00:51:10.000 So I always think of those motherfuckers trying to choke me. 1.00
00:51:13.000 Right? 1.00
00:51:15.000 You know, there's something you can get out of just a straight cardio exercise, I think mentally and physically.
00:51:20.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:51:20.000 I love doing, at hotel rooms, I don't like doing this at home because it's kind of boring compared to other shit I can do, but I do this crazy elliptical workout where I'll sprint for 30 seconds, and then I'll relax for 30 seconds, and then I'll sprint for 30 seconds, and I just do as many rounds of that as I can.
00:51:35.000 And it's fucking horrendous. 0.94
00:51:37.000 Like, I don't like doing it. 1.00
00:51:38.000 Like, it's so hard to do that when I see one of these things at a hotel gym, I'm like, alright, you motherfucker. 0.99
00:51:44.000 I was hoping I would walk in and it would just be like a universal machine. 0.98
00:51:48.000 But if there's an elliptical machine, we've got to go to war.
00:51:51.000 I've got to do my thing.
00:51:52.000 That's what I do at every hotel that has this elliptical machine.
00:51:55.000 So it's become like this battle of man versus machine.
00:51:58.000 But it's a brutal workout of just a silly little elliptical machine.
00:52:03.000 I mean, you put that all-out effort into it, and that interval training is nasty.
00:52:07.000 That's what it is.
00:52:08.000 You've got to crank the power up, the resistance up, super high, and you go to war for 30 seconds. 0.93
00:52:14.000 You've just got to go crazy for 30 seconds, and then crank that bitch back down to 8 or 9 or 7 or something, relax, and you do that for the next 30 seconds, and then right back up again. 1.00
00:52:24.000 Right. 0.99
00:52:24.000 Just keep doing it. 0.99
00:52:26.000 It's terrible.
00:52:27.000 Yeah, I think I would like doing curls on the Universal Machine.
00:52:30.000 Better?
00:52:30.000 Yeah, that sounds like a lot more fun.
00:52:32.000 Curls on the Universal Machine was so unrealistic.
00:52:34.000 Right.
00:52:35.000 It was so nonsensical.
00:52:37.000 And the bench press where it kind of turns up like that.
00:52:40.000 Right.
00:52:40.000 I remember we had those in high school.
00:52:42.000 In the high school wrestling room, there was like a fitness area.
00:52:45.000 Right.
00:52:45.000 A big Universal Machine.
00:52:47.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:52:47.000 This dude named Frank Peace could do the stack.
00:52:49.000 Yeah.
00:52:50.000 Frank Peace got on there and he could do the whole stack. 0.99
00:52:53.000 He was a really fucking strong kid. 1.00
00:52:54.000 Everyone was like, oh shit. 1.00
00:52:56.000 How much can you bench? 1.00
00:52:57.000 That was the big question.
00:52:58.000 And they would use universal numbers.
00:53:01.000 It's like 600 pounds universal or 200 pounds real.
00:53:05.000 Isn't that funny?
00:53:07.000 That it's easier to push things as long as you don't have to balance them.
00:53:10.000 But you have to balance them and push things. 1.00
00:53:12.000 That's when shit gets slippery. 0.97
00:53:15.000 It's hard to wrap your head around why a universal machine really wouldn't work. 0.99
00:53:19.000 But it's okay to do something on, right?
00:53:21.000 I mean, it's better than nothing, yeah, totally.
00:53:23.000 And you're on the road a lot, just like I am.
00:53:25.000 It's brutal, right?
00:53:25.000 You get done what you can get done, yeah.
00:53:28.000 Do you have a hotel workout that you do?
00:53:30.000 It depends on where the place is.
00:53:32.000 Like, if it's totally just nothing going on, then I'll just do some sprints, like in the stairwell and stuff like that.
00:53:37.000 And then I do some handstand push-ups, maybe some L-sit press-to-handstand and chairs doing some gymnastic stuff.
00:53:43.000 But it really depends.
00:53:45.000 I've been hitting, like, double trees now because they usually have a half-decent gym.
00:53:49.000 And then, like, you can swing some dumbbells like you do with kettlebells and just get some basic strength training in and then do some intervals on, like, a StairMaster or an elliptical.
00:53:58.000 Yeah.
00:53:59.000 Yeah, if I don't work out when I'm on the road, I feel twice as bad.
00:54:02.000 Right.
00:54:03.000 There's definitely something that goes on when your body goes to a new place where if you do get a good workout in, it sort of makes everything feel okay.
00:54:13.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:54:14.000 Sort of like a little bit of a reset.
00:54:16.000 If I fly into Dallas or something, I'm a little foggy from the trip.
00:54:20.000 If I hit the gym hard...
00:54:21.000 It just whoop, sort of...
00:54:23.000 Pulls you back.
00:54:24.000 Yeah, sort of levels it off.
00:54:25.000 What is going on when that happens?
00:54:27.000 Is it just an endorphin rush from the training?
00:54:30.000 You know, heating up your body, you crank up all the metabolic processes going on.
00:54:35.000 So it definitely, you know, the endorphin rush is nice because you just feel better from that.
00:54:39.000 But whenever you heat your body up, you are kind of accelerating all the processes in the body.
00:54:44.000 And so you're going to acclimate a little better.
00:54:47.000 Taking some melatonin when you travel, that helps reset things, but exercise has been known for a long time to help.
00:54:54.000 If you didn't exercise and you did a USA to Europe travel, it's going to take longer to get acclimated versus if you exercised every day.
00:55:03.000 Now, if you go to a place and you settle in and you do exercise and you do take melatonin to sleep, what is the best case scenario for you settling into a new time zone?
00:55:18.000 Like if someone goes from California to New York...
00:55:21.000 You know, three time zones isn't too bad.
00:55:23.000 It'd probably be a couple of days.
00:55:24.000 If you go six to nine time zones, it's going to take a week, at least.
00:55:29.000 And you're probably going to feel pretty rough.
00:55:31.000 And if you're younger, it's not going to be as bad.
00:55:33.000 If you're older, I had friends that went to Australia. 0.99
00:55:36.000 When they came back, they were fucked. 0.99
00:55:38.000 They were fucked for a while. 1.00
00:55:40.000 I haven't been the same in two weeks, man. 1.00
00:55:43.000 That's crazy.
00:55:44.000 And you get out and exercise.
00:55:46.000 Ideally, you get outside during the evening when the sun is setting.
00:55:49.000 The communication of the light into the brain kind of resets some stuff that is really important for normal sleep.
00:55:56.000 So you should actually watch the sun turn into darkness?
00:56:00.000 Ideally be outside.
00:56:02.000 That's what the sun lamps are good for.
00:56:04.000 What are the sun lamps?
00:56:06.000 They're like these lamps that simulate the sun.
00:56:13.000 They glow really bright.
00:56:14.000 You can wake up to it.
00:56:16.000 It's an alarm clock almost.
00:56:18.000 Really?
00:56:18.000 And they start getting brighter and brighter and brighter.
00:56:20.000 And you wake up with this huge glowing light in your bedroom.
00:56:24.000 And it just kind of makes you feel.
00:56:27.000 It tricks your body.
00:56:27.000 People in Alaska have these lights all the time because of the...
00:56:31.000 The periods of time when it's pitch black.
00:56:35.000 Or always daylight, too.
00:56:38.000 Doesn't it reverse there?
00:56:40.000 Yeah.
00:56:41.000 I think it's both, right?
00:56:41.000 Yeah.
00:56:42.000 It's a nutty motherfucking place to live. 1.00
00:56:45.000 Have you ever seen the show Mountain Man? 1.00
00:56:46.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:56:47.000 It's a great fucking show. 1.00
00:56:48.000 That is crazy. 1.00
00:56:49.000 It's my new favorite show.
00:56:50.000 That guy Marty who lives in Alaska?
00:56:52.000 Yeah.
00:56:52.000 If you haven't seen the show, folks, it's about three different dudes who live.
00:56:55.000 One's North Carolina, one's Montana, one's Alaska.
00:56:57.000 Yeah.
00:56:58.000 The Alaska dude flies everywhere in a plane, goes for hours to be away from his family, or, excuse me, months, rather, to be away from his family, and just traps animals.
00:57:08.000 Right. 0.95
00:57:09.000 He's 24 miles on a fucking, one of those, what are those, snowmobile things? 0.99
00:57:15.000 Snowmobile things? 1.00
00:57:16.000 It's craziness.
00:57:18.000 Like, you know, you think you got it hard?
00:57:19.000 This guy makes a living killing little animals and selling their skins three hours by plane from his house.
00:57:25.000 All to escape his family.
00:57:27.000 Probably, right?
00:57:28.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:57:29.000 That's probably bullshit, right? 0.99
00:57:30.000 Yeah, well, I gotta do what I gotta do. 1.00
00:57:32.000 Meanwhile, he could be trapping, like, right next to his fucking house. 1.00
00:57:34.000 Think about how many goddamn animals there are in Alaska. 1.00
00:57:37.000 Why do you have to go to the middle of nowhere in your plane? 1.00
00:57:39.000 Yeah, he's probably up there beating off.
00:57:41.000 Trapping Squatch.
00:57:42.000 And he just comes over there. 0.99
00:57:43.000 Just a stack of porn. 0.91
00:57:45.000 Why is the plane so heavy this time? 0.98
00:57:47.000 I don't know!
00:57:48.000 Couldn't find anything different.
00:57:50.000 Magazines on one side, Vaseline on the other.
00:57:52.000 It's just all DVDs.
00:57:54.000 All porno DVDs. 0.98
00:57:55.000 All Asian, too. 0.99
00:57:56.000 You don't find any Asian chicks up in Alaska, do you? 1.00
00:57:59.000 Very rare, unless they literally walk there from Asia on the Bering Strait, like the Inuits. 1.00
00:58:06.000 What if they have like the best Asian and we didn't even know this whole time?
00:58:09.000 A new type of Asian? 0.99
00:58:10.000 It's like their secret.
00:58:11.000 I see what you're trying to say.
00:58:12.000 Alaska Asian.
00:58:13.000 Alaska Asian.
00:58:13.000 It is weird though.
00:58:14.000 Alaska's not attached. 1.00
00:58:15.000 That's hilarious. 0.99
00:58:16.000 Like how can you claim something that's attached to another fucking country? 0.99
00:58:21.000 You know, nobody wanted it. 0.98
00:58:22.000 It's awesome!
00:58:24.000 How could you not want it?
00:58:25.000 Why would nobody want it?
00:58:26.000 I don't know.
00:58:27.000 They don't want to get eaten.
00:58:28.000 They bought it for cheap back in the day, though.
00:58:30.000 This dude who lives up there, man, this guy's a lokester. 0.98
00:58:35.000 That's a crazy life.
00:58:36.000 And he does it every year.
00:58:38.000 Same thing every year.
00:58:39.000 He was outside, he was like 50 below zero.
00:58:41.000 Right.
00:58:42.000 Like you could piss and it's going to be frozen before it hits the ground.
00:58:45.000 Yeah, that's amazing.
00:58:46.000 Maybe you could, not me, bro. 0.95
00:58:48.000 My piss is alive. 0.90
00:58:49.000 It's hot.
00:58:50.000 My piss will fight it off. 0.88
00:58:52.000 Do you ever drink your own piss? 0.90
00:58:54.000 I do not.
00:58:56.000 You do not.
00:58:58.000 That would be a quote in the bottom of someone at the message boards.
00:59:02.000 It would be someone's signature. 0.98
00:59:03.000 Brian Redman, do you drink piss? 0.93
00:59:06.000 Joe drinks his own piss, isn't that crazy?
00:59:07.000 No, I have. 0.97
00:59:08.000 I have drunk my own piss.
00:59:10.000 I don't do it on a regular basis, Brian.
00:59:11.000 I am part of the lunatic fringe, but I haven't gone down that route, so yeah.
00:59:15.000 It really doesn't even taste that bad.
00:59:16.000 It's like bugs.
00:59:17.000 It's all in your head. 1.00
00:59:19.000 Doesn't taste bad at all, but I read some shit like a new Lyoto Machida drinks his own piss. 1.00
00:59:24.000 Does it every morning. 0.99
00:59:26.000 Wow.
00:59:26.000 Coming to his father.
00:59:27.000 What's the fuck Juan Manuel Marquez is famous for drinking his own piss, the boxer? 0.99
00:59:31.000 Yeah, there's this idea of urine therapy. 0.99
00:59:36.000 There's vitamins and nutrients that go through your body that don't get used by your body, but they're in your piss, but they will get used if you drink your piss. 0.93
00:59:45.000 Does that sound retarded? 0.98
00:59:46.000 There's some possibility there.
00:59:48.000 If your wife or girlfriend is pregnant, then HCG, human chorionic gonadotropin, is a hormone that stimulates testosterone release also.
00:59:59.000 So you could collect their urine because the HCG is really high in the pregnant chicks and then concentrate it down and get jacked from that. 0.99
01:00:06.000 Wow, you get jacked from your wife's piss. 1.00
01:00:08.000 Who would have thought? 1.00
01:00:09.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
01:00:10.000 Maybe that's where it all started from. 1.00
01:00:12.000 Dudes are smart. 0.99
01:00:13.000 They knew what the fuck was up. 0.99
01:00:14.000 Jimmy Norton's on to something. 1.00
01:00:15.000 He's going to be all buff any day now.
01:00:17.000 That'd be huge.
01:00:17.000 That's why his neck's so big.
01:00:18.000 I wonder how the fuck anybody ever figured that out. 0.99
01:00:22.000 That there's any sort of vitamins and nutrients to be had in drinking your own urine. 0.99
01:00:27.000 I don't know.
01:00:28.000 I don't know.
01:00:29.000 It's like the cordyceps.
01:00:30.000 Like, why did this guy eat the, you know...
01:00:32.000 Caterpillar with the fungus on it.
01:00:34.000 I just think people had lower standards in the past.
01:00:36.000 Like, if you don't know about hygiene and bacteria and stuff like that, like, anything goes.
01:00:40.000 Yeah, it's like, why not?
01:00:41.000 Drink some piss.
01:00:42.000 Yeah.
01:00:43.000 Yeah.
01:00:44.000 I know for when people that take mushrooms, that's supposed to be the end-all experience is you recycle your urine while you're tripping. 0.65
01:00:53.000 And apparently there's more psilocin or psilocybin or whatever the fuck the psychoactive ingredient is in the urine.
01:01:00.000 So as you drink it, it gets reabsorbed and it shoots you to the center of the universe. 0.92
01:01:05.000 Usually, though, when I'm on mushrooms, the last thing I can do is drink or eat or especially my piss.
01:01:11.000 Drinking your own piss, yeah.
01:01:12.000 I talked to a dude who did it.
01:01:14.000 He said, you know, everybody was like, you've got to drink your urine. 0.99
01:01:16.000 He's like, I'm not drinking my fucking piss. 0.99
01:01:19.000 I'm already high. 1.00
01:01:20.000 He goes, I'm thinking I'm already tripping balls. 0.95
01:01:21.000 And he said, so they talked me into drinking my piss. 0.98
01:01:24.000 I drank it and just...
01:01:25.000 He goes, I can't...
01:01:26.000 It was like I was pulled back...
01:01:29.000 In like a slingshot and let go to the center of the universe.
01:01:33.000 I think just like stacking psilocybin plus mescaline plus LSD is probably a more direct route to that instead of light drinking your own urine doing the whole thing.
01:01:43.000 Well, it's supposed to be just an accelerated version of the mushroom trip.
01:01:46.000 It's not like a confusing blend of The idea is just when you drink your own urine, apparently the real experience kicks in.
01:01:55.000 It's like that takes it to the next level.
01:01:57.000 It's so trippy that it takes it to the next level.
01:02:00.000 I think I would try meth first.
01:02:01.000 I'll just blow that mushroom trip out of the door.
01:02:04.000 The dude who did it, I swear to God.
01:02:06.000 There's some people that come back from some real or imagined experience like that, so humbled that they really are a different person.
01:02:14.000 That's how this guy was.
01:02:15.000 I was like, "What happened to you?
01:02:16.000 What's going on with you?" The dude seemed almost pious.
01:02:21.000 It was weird.
01:02:22.000 It was like he was noticeably softer in tone, noticeably more humble.
01:02:28.000 It was weird.
01:02:29.000 I go, "What happened?" And then he tells me this whole story.
01:02:32.000 I'm like, holy shit, how long ago was that? 0.97
01:02:34.000 A year later, he was back to himself. 0.97
01:02:36.000 When you have the full reality peel, like when you have that complete reality peel, it should change you a little bit. 1.00
01:02:44.000 Yeah, it should knock your fucking socks off. 0.98
01:02:46.000 It should let you know, like, whoa, you might be wrong, son. 0.99
01:02:50.000 This might not be...
01:02:52.000 Normal at all.
01:02:53.000 Right.
01:02:53.000 This world might be full of crazy magical things that can happen at any moment in time.
01:02:58.000 That's how I feel about food poisoning sometimes also.
01:03:01.000 I learn a lot from food poisoning.
01:03:03.000 Yeah, well, you know, there's...
01:03:04.000 Don't eat at that taco wagon ever again.
01:03:06.000 You say that, but that's...
01:03:07.000 Sunday sushi?
01:03:08.000 That is something that cultures that didn't have psychedelics, they had rituals and rites of passages through different substances that would be poison.
01:03:18.000 They'd basically be like, I think, the...
01:03:21.000 The name for these substances...
01:03:23.000 They're essentially toxins that don't kill you.
01:03:28.000 But you go through this horrible...
01:03:30.000 That's like ammonite and mushrooms.
01:03:31.000 Ordeal poisoning.
01:03:31.000 That's what it's called.
01:03:32.000 They're called ordeal poisons.
01:03:34.000 And you go through this horrible, horrible, horrible experience.
01:03:37.000 And when it's over, when it passes, you're so happy to be alive that you become nicer to people.
01:03:43.000 You learn something from it.
01:03:46.000 I agree.
01:03:47.000 And so instead of having that come through the amazing and enlightening experience of the psilocybin experience or the mushroom trip, instead of that, you just almost die.
01:03:57.000 Just almost. 0.99
01:03:58.000 The whole fucking thing falls apart on you. 1.00
01:04:01.000 Don't tell my wife about this. 1.00
01:04:03.000 She could...
01:04:05.000 Possibly try to improve me by that route.
01:04:07.000 Recommend you go that route?
01:04:09.000 What would she improve if she could improve? 0.61
01:04:10.000 You seem like a great guy.
01:04:13.000 Maybe I would cook more.
01:04:15.000 At the home, are you super strict with the paleo?
01:04:18.000 Everybody has to follow that?
01:04:19.000 I actually do all the cooking.
01:04:22.000 I do all the cooking.
01:04:25.000 Folks pretty much eat what I throw out there. 0.99
01:04:28.000 You'd make a good gay wife. 1.00
01:04:29.000 I would. 0.97
01:04:30.000 I would.
01:04:31.000 I can't deny it.
01:04:34.000 So you're always organic, always grass-fed?
01:04:38.000 No.
01:04:38.000 We do the grass-fed gig because we have a friend that owns a dairy, and so we can get grass-fed meat super easy.
01:04:44.000 So you're getting it right from the guy who's killing it?
01:04:47.000 Oh, that's amazing.
01:04:48.000 What a hookup that is. 0.99
01:04:49.000 And we get all the giblets and everything with it and stuff like that.
01:04:52.000 But people don't respect all those giblets.
01:04:54.000 People don't respect chicken hearts and turkey hearts.
01:04:57.000 They're delicious, man.
01:04:59.000 And nutritious. 0.99
01:05:00.000 Chicken hearts are fucking delicious, man. 0.99
01:05:01.000 That's what I love about in Brazil. 0.99
01:05:03.000 When you go to Fogo de Chão in Brazil, the Chuhasqueria, they bring out skewers of chicken hearts. 0.99
01:05:09.000 And everybody was like, give them here, bitch. 1.00
01:05:11.000 Give them here. 1.00
01:05:12.000 Wow. 1.00
01:05:12.000 You fucking pussies. 1.00
01:05:13.000 Yeah, it's almost the best stuff. 1.00
01:05:15.000 They're delicious.
01:05:16.000 It's got a weird taste to it.
01:05:18.000 It's like chewy, but not too chewy.
01:05:20.000 It's tender, super nutritious.
01:05:22.000 Yeah.
01:05:23.000 Creepy.
01:05:24.000 Creepy.
01:05:25.000 I like that.
01:05:26.000 Little chicken heart.
01:05:28.000 There's a place, you know that place at LAX? Somebody told me the restaurant that looks like this weird futuristic tower.
01:05:34.000 The UFO type of thing?
01:05:35.000 Somebody told me that they serve crazy food. 1.00
01:05:38.000 They're like ants and bugs and like creepy shit now. 1.00
01:05:41.000 Really? 0.99
01:05:42.000 Yeah, it's just like a fear factor thing.
01:05:44.000 Oh, so like an international oddity sort of a restaurant?
01:05:48.000 I've never heard of that.
01:05:49.000 Yeah, somebody just told me that.
01:05:50.000 I don't know if it's true. 1.00
01:05:51.000 Why don't you Google that shit and find out if it's true before you spread it. 1.00
01:05:52.000 Maybe they just have a bad health department scenario going on. 1.00
01:05:55.000 They tried it.
01:05:57.000 No, no, no.
01:05:57.000 We meant to have that roach.
01:05:59.000 That's a part of our festivities here where we have a...
01:06:02.000 There's a lot of countries where they do eat bugs because they have to, right?
01:06:05.000 It's a high source of protein.
01:06:06.000 Yeah, it's really nutritious, but I just had a guy that sent me a cricket protein bar from Thailand.
01:06:15.000 Yo.
01:06:15.000 Yeah.
01:06:16.000 Cricket protein.
01:06:17.000 Yeah, so they grow these crickets.
01:06:19.000 And you ate this?
01:06:20.000 It wasn't bad.
01:06:21.000 It wasn't bad.
01:06:22.000 You're a bold man. 0.99
01:06:23.000 I would not think that anybody working at a fucking cricket protein bar in Thailand would be clean and tidy and shit into the batch every now and again. 0.99
01:06:34.000 They could have, but there was no, like, hep A, apparently. 0.99
01:06:37.000 Like, I didn't get doubled over from anything.
01:06:39.000 So nothing went wrong?
01:06:40.000 No.
01:06:40.000 Not yet.
01:06:42.000 Crickets, why not?
01:06:43.000 You know, it's funny.
01:06:44.000 We're so weird.
01:06:44.000 We eat lobsters, you know, and lobsters have a lot of the same...
01:06:48.000 Oh, dude, they're just a water...
01:06:50.000 Cricket.
01:06:50.000 Yeah, it's a water roach.
01:06:51.000 Big one, yeah.
01:06:52.000 It's a giant roach.
01:06:52.000 Yeah.
01:06:54.000 It actually, if you eat roaches, if you're allergic to shellfish and you eat roaches, you'll get fucked up. 0.98
01:07:01.000 We learned that on Fear Factor the hard way. 0.96
01:07:03.000 A dude had a shellfish allergy and he had to eat roaches.
01:07:06.000 Like EpiPen.
01:07:07.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:07:08.000 He had to get jacked with, what is it, adrenaline they shoot you with?
01:07:11.000 Yeah, epinephrine or adrenaline, yeah.
01:07:13.000 Here's this thing called Typhoon.
01:07:17.000 It's called Typhoon, I guess.
01:07:19.000 Taiwanese crickets, amphibians.
01:07:22.000 Scorpions, larvae.
01:07:24.000 But they also have empanadas.
01:07:25.000 Frog legs.
01:07:27.000 Filipino empanadas.
01:07:28.000 Just for some variety, yeah.
01:07:29.000 Yeah, it seems like they're just trying to go super international.
01:07:32.000 New Zealand.
01:07:33.000 They got New Zealand food.
01:07:35.000 Filipino food.
01:07:37.000 It looks yummy, man.
01:07:39.000 It makes me hungry.
01:07:39.000 Yeah.
01:07:41.000 Do you have a hard time with your diet going to restaurants?
01:07:45.000 Not really.
01:07:46.000 I mean, like the Brazilian barbecue is a perfect example.
01:07:50.000 They've always got tons of meat, fruit, veggies.
01:07:52.000 I mean, it's usually pretty easy.
01:07:54.000 Those places are so healthy.
01:07:56.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:07:57.000 We spent two weeks in Florence, Italy, and it wasn't hard to eat this way.
01:08:01.000 I mean, there's always a chunk of meat, there's always like some veggies, so it's not that, it's pretty easy.
01:08:05.000 You totally avoid pastas, grains?
01:08:09.000 Yeah, like I'll have a little bit of corn, like some corn tortillas.
01:08:12.000 But yeah, like any wheat-containing item.
01:08:15.000 Like if I had some wheat, your bathroom out there would be decommissioned.
01:08:18.000 Do you eat like Ezekiel pasta?
01:08:21.000 No.
01:08:21.000 No.
01:08:22.000 The sprouted grains reduce the problematic proteins that cause the inflammation in the gut, but they're not totally gone.
01:08:30.000 Someone like you, you might be a little more resistant to it.
01:08:34.000 If you had whole wheat pasta, we might see some problems.
01:08:38.000 You have the Ezekiel-type pasta, you don't really see the problems.
01:08:41.000 Whereas for me, I would still have some problems with it.
01:08:44.000 I'm kind of like the canary in the coal mine with it.
01:08:46.000 Yeah, I like Ezekiel.
01:08:48.000 Ezekiel pasta, if you've never had it, folks.
01:08:50.000 It's a sprouted grain.
01:08:53.000 They make bread, Ezekiel bread.
01:08:55.000 And it's based on how it says to make bread in the Bible, apparently.
01:08:59.000 Which is kind of trippy.
01:09:00.000 Because it's super healthy.
01:09:02.000 Grains and legumes, if you eat them without sprouting, they literally can make you sick.
01:09:08.000 Like if you just took them uncooked and ate them, it would make you sick.
01:09:12.000 Nobody ever just eats wheat.
01:09:14.000 Right.
01:09:14.000 And that's why.
01:09:15.000 It literally would make you sick. 0.99
01:09:17.000 How the fuck did they ever figure out how to eat it? 0.99
01:09:19.000 How hungry and desperate were people? 0.98
01:09:21.000 Dude, I don't know.
01:09:22.000 How do you figure out to stick it in a bucket of water, let it sprout, and start smelling a little bit fermented, and then start eating it?
01:09:30.000 I don't know.
01:09:31.000 How do you ever eat a coconut?
01:09:32.000 How do you ever eat a lobster?
01:09:34.000 Well, lobsters, I could see you giving it a shot, man.
01:09:37.000 Anything with a face.
01:09:40.000 It's kind of like, just don't eat the business end of it, and you're pretty good.
01:09:46.000 Whichever in that may be.
01:09:47.000 So it depends on which business you're talking about, I guess.
01:09:49.000 What do you think about an actual vegan diet like the China study and things along those lines where people have been advocating a completely vegetable-based diet?
01:10:00.000 Is that bollocks?
01:10:02.000 I think it's an improvement off the standard American diet.
01:10:05.000 Typically, people are eating more fruit, more veggies.
01:10:08.000 They're more conscious about the stuff that they're eating.
01:10:10.000 I just don't see people thriving on that long term.
01:10:13.000 And what is the problem?
01:10:15.000 They don't get enough protein.
01:10:16.000 They don't get enough B vitamins. 0.98
01:10:18.000 They'll tell you, excuse me, crazy vegan people, I love you, but you get a little crazy.
01:10:24.000 But they do have a point in that there are some plants that have a full amino acid spectrum.
01:10:30.000 They have all the amino acids.
01:10:33.000 It's a full protein.
01:10:34.000 You can stay alive.
01:10:36.000 I call them third world proteins.
01:10:39.000 You'll survive, but you won't thrive.
01:10:41.000 What is the difference between them and what you get from meat?
01:10:45.000 You just get such a concentrated source of proteins from meat.
01:10:49.000 On a hormonal level, you're releasing insulin and glucagon when you eat protein, and that is really beneficial for energy levels, for muscle mass.
01:10:58.000 I mean, when you look at most of the vegan athletes, particularly in the kind of bodybuilding and strength scene, they're always using some sort of protein concentrate, like a rice protein concentrate or something.
01:11:08.000 They're not just eating beans, rice, quinoa.
01:11:11.000 They're not really eating whole foods.
01:11:12.000 They're still eating a concentrated protein source.
01:11:15.000 Right.
01:11:15.000 Or they just fail miserably.
01:11:17.000 But when they do that, when they do eat that concentrated protein source, is that sufficient?
01:11:24.000 It'll work, but it's like to eat the concentrated protein from a cow or from brown rice and hemp protein.
01:11:30.000 And for me, it's like I just do the cow because it works better, it tastes better.
01:11:34.000 It works better.
01:11:35.000 Yeah, it just works better.
01:11:37.000 But when you say, I'm sorry to ask because my vegan friends would go crazy if I didn't.
01:11:42.000 When you say it works better, have there been studies where they have shown a decrease in physical performance because of following a vegan diet as opposed to an increase in a meat-eating diet?
01:11:56.000 I mean, has there ever been any study done?
01:11:58.000 There's some studies comparing vegetarian diets to mixed diets, and typically the performance is not as good.
01:12:04.000 So, I mean, there is some Because that's the only way they would really tell, right?
01:12:09.000 Is to get an athlete, put them on it, see what their performance is, get that same athlete, put them on this other diet.
01:12:14.000 And then isn't that sort of biospecific to that one individual?
01:12:18.000 Yeah, and you know, like Carl Lewis is kind of carried around as a vegan success.
01:12:24.000 He had one year of good performance, and then his performance tanked after that.
01:12:29.000 And it was during a time that you would...
01:12:31.000 Reasonably assume that he, you know, kind of like Usain Bolt, that he should continue to improve.
01:12:36.000 Right.
01:12:36.000 And so that's where, like, you take somebody eating a standard American diet that's super pro-inflammatory, it's tons of, you know, refined foods and everything, you put them on a vegan diet, I think they're probably gonna look, feel, and perform better.
01:12:47.000 Like, there's no doubt about that.
01:12:49.000 Down the road, I just don't see people doing as well.
01:12:52.000 And, you know, it's not like you need to eat boatloads of meat To round out, you know, like say you take this vegan diet that I would still put like paleo carbs in.
01:13:02.000 Instead of beans, rice, quinoa and stuff, I would have yams, sweet potatoes, fruits, veggies, which still have more vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants per calorie.
01:13:11.000 So you're still good there.
01:13:13.000 And then if you throw in...
01:13:14.000 A little bit of eggs, a little bit of fish, a little bit of meat.
01:13:17.000 You're getting a ton of nutrition from that.
01:13:19.000 You're going to build muscle.
01:13:20.000 You're going to recover well.
01:13:22.000 And it doesn't need to be the whole part of the diet.
01:13:25.000 That's where the individual specifics, dialing this stuff in, could really work.
01:13:31.000 And eggs, for folks who don't know, because I didn't even know this until I was in my 30s, which is very sad.
01:13:37.000 But eggs, you don't kill anything to get an egg.
01:13:40.000 A chicken lays an egg every night.
01:13:41.000 It's not like if you have a moral sort of a...
01:13:44.000 Quandary.
01:13:45.000 Yeah, a quandary about eating animals and killing animals.
01:13:48.000 That's okay, but chicken eggs.
01:13:50.000 You don't have to fertilize those eggs.
01:13:53.000 They pop out every day.
01:13:54.000 Everybody's fine.
01:13:55.000 Eat the egg.
01:13:55.000 No one dies.
01:13:56.000 You know, on the moral side, I will probably have the vegans come and kill me. 0.99
01:14:01.000 If anybody ever comes and kills me, it's either going to be militant vegan or a religious rite fanatic. 0.99
01:14:07.000 And those people will track me down in my house and kill me and probably decorate their house with my intestines or something. 0.99
01:14:13.000 She just gave them a pretty picture. 0.99
01:14:16.000 Dudes are taking their pants off right now.
01:14:18.000 Yes!
01:14:19.000 Woo! 0.99
01:14:19.000 Oh, make it so... 0.99
01:14:21.000 But there was this professor that did an economic analysis of meat-eating versus not meat-eating and this whole kind of moralistic...
01:14:31.000 Stance, and they call it the least harm principle.
01:14:33.000 Like, what could you do with regards to the food supply that's going to kill the fewest animals?
01:14:38.000 And the vegans kind of paint this picture that if I eat beans and rice and quinoa and stuff, that it's somehow a bloodless affair.
01:14:45.000 But tons of animals are killed in the process of farming.
01:14:49.000 You mean like small animals that get run over by tractors?
01:14:52.000 Yeah, snakes and birds.
01:14:54.000 And just the fact that the way that we do mega farming, you destroy whole ecosystems to do that.
01:15:00.000 Whereas there's this guy, Joel Salatin, who has the polyface farms, and they do biodynamic farming where you've got pigs and chickens and it's outside and they use solar power.
01:15:10.000 That farm produces more food, more nutrition per acre than any other farm on the planet.
01:15:16.000 Where?
01:15:17.000 Where is this?
01:15:17.000 Where do they do this?
01:15:18.000 New Hampshire, I think.
01:15:19.000 Polyface Farms.
01:15:20.000 Joel Salatin.
01:15:20.000 Cool dude.
01:15:21.000 Cool dude.
01:15:21.000 And how does he have it set up?
01:15:23.000 He has it set up?
01:15:24.000 So the cattle will go through and graze on grass, which is what they're designed to eat.
01:15:29.000 They're not designed to eat grains.
01:15:30.000 And you don't have to put any oil into producing grass.
01:15:32.000 Like, you need to produce grains, you know?
01:15:34.000 So there's that whole thing.
01:15:35.000 Then after the cattle go through, and they put up solar-powered electric fences to move these critters around.
01:15:41.000 I'm sorry.
01:15:41.000 What do you mean?
01:15:42.000 Oil to produce grains?
01:15:43.000 Yeah.
01:15:44.000 What do you mean?
01:15:44.000 Like, all of the farm machinery and all the infrastructure to produce.
01:15:48.000 Oh, right.
01:15:49.000 I see what you're saying.
01:15:49.000 I mean, it's hugely intensive versus grass just grows.
01:15:52.000 Just letting grass grow.
01:15:53.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:15:54.000 Or even, say, like, fruit and nut trees.
01:15:56.000 Like, they're relatively...
01:15:57.000 When did they start feeding them grains?
01:16:01.000 Early 1970s, there were some fluctuations in food prices, and there was a desire on the part of the U.S. government.
01:16:07.000 I think it was right at the end of Nixon's scene.
01:16:10.000 They started dumping a bunch of subsidy money into intensifying farm production of basically like corn and soybeans, stuff like that.
01:16:17.000 And they wanted to create an export commodity out of that.
01:16:21.000 And when we started producing all of this grain, like high carbohydrate stuff, we needed to do something with it, which is where we then started recommending it via things like the food pyramid, that you need to eat 12 servings of whole grains a day and stuff like that.
01:16:38.000 A government sponsored move, which I'm just totally a nutcase libertarian, like I just can't fucking stand the government coming in and subsidizing any industry because you end up destroying the market forces that would normally control it.
01:16:52.000 So now we have a Twinkie that costs less than an apple, but it really doesn't cost less because we're paying for the subsidized production of that food via taxes and via going and acquiring oil and all these other indirect methods.
01:17:04.000 So if you had kind of decentralized farming and you have something that looks like the polyface farms where they grow cattle and horses and pigs and it's all kind of a self-contained nutrient cycle.
01:17:15.000 So the cattle go through and then the chickens go through and move the cow poop around.
01:17:20.000 Dude, I've always wanted to live like that. 0.94
01:17:22.000 I've always thought that would be such a cool fucking thing to be able to buy a farm somewhere and actually have it set up like that where you get all your food from the ground that you actually live on. 0.98
01:17:31.000 That would be fucking amazing. 0.98
01:17:32.000 Move to Ohio. 1.00
01:17:33.000 Sounds like a pain in the dick, though. 1.00
01:17:36.000 That's your life. 0.99
01:17:37.000 It might be labor-intensive, yeah.
01:17:38.000 That's your life.
01:17:38.000 That's your life.
01:17:39.000 Forget about jujitsu class.
01:17:41.000 Forget about playing pool.
01:17:43.000 You've got to milk some cows.
01:17:44.000 Get your kids involved.
01:17:46.000 The kids are going to have to start working. 1.00
01:17:47.000 What the fuck? 1.00
01:17:48.000 I don't want my kids to work on a farm. 1.00
01:17:50.000 Right. 1.00
01:17:51.000 Throwing hay and shit. 0.99
01:17:52.000 Then a tornado comes. 0.99
01:17:54.000 Not always, Brian.
01:17:56.000 Farms aren't always where tornadoes are.
01:17:57.000 You could have a farm in California, but I guess they do have tornadoes in California.
01:18:00.000 They spotted a little one recently.
01:18:02.000 Up around Chico, yeah. 1.00
01:18:04.000 Yeah, shit could go down. 1.00
01:18:06.000 Anywhere. 1.00
01:18:06.000 This whole thing is a big, fat, crazy mess. 1.00
01:18:08.000 It could all fall apart.
01:18:11.000 The idea of this paleo diet is, to me, the most...
01:18:14.000 Instantly, when I heard about it, I was like, oh yeah, that makes sense.
01:18:20.000 I followed, I tried the Atkins for a little while, and I swear to God, it was one of the worst I've ever felt.
01:18:27.000 I don't know, I think eating too much fat...
01:18:31.000 Atkins is horrible, man.
01:18:32.000 My ex-girlfriend used to do that, and it really kind of pissed me off, because... 0.92
01:18:36.000 It was not healthy at all.
01:18:39.000 Just watching her sit there only eating cheese every day and bacon fat. 0.81
01:18:44.000 I'm just like, come on.
01:18:45.000 I'm more of a Weight Watchers person.
01:18:47.000 But to me, it's like you just have a little bit of everything.
01:18:50.000 But a good part of the Atkins diet to me was that you could eat meat and you could eat as much vegetables as you wanted to.
01:18:57.000 That really is...
01:18:58.000 And if you have somebody who's type 2 diabetic, they would benefit a lot from something that looks like an Atkins diet.
01:19:04.000 Type 2 diabetes is 100%.
01:19:06.000 It's reversible in that you can take somebody who's not managing their blood glucose and they're on a host of drugs and they're very likely to die from heart attack, stroke, cancer, and if you feed them a ketogenic, like a moderate protein, high fat diet, you can shift their body's metabolism to run on ketones and they're going to live amazingly well and they're not going to bankrupt society because we're spending a bunch of money trying to manage this stuff.
01:19:33.000 But for an athlete, for somebody who's not metabolically broken, I just like to steer people more towards like the, you know, fruits, veggies, yams, sweet potatoes, stuff like that for the carbs.
01:19:42.000 When you carb load though, do you get the same carb load from fruits and veggies that you would if you were eating a giant plate of pasta?
01:19:48.000 That's where you would use like a yam or a sweet potato or something like that and it's very, you know, it's like a one for one kind of...
01:19:53.000 Same thing, huh?
01:19:55.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.98
01:19:55.000 Yams are fucking delicious, too. 0.98
01:19:57.000 But meanwhile, if I were to go for a yam or a plate of spaghetti, I'm going to take that spaghetti because it's yummier and I feel like I'm getting away with something when I eat it. 0.98
01:20:05.000 You know, the wheat has some opiate-like chemicals in it that stimulate the addiction centers in the brain.
01:20:12.000 I bet it does.
01:20:13.000 Lasagna?
01:20:14.000 That's like heroin.
01:20:16.000 It's very similar, man.
01:20:17.000 Mac and cheese. 1.00
01:20:17.000 Good lasagna when you're eating, you're like, oh, shit. 1.00
01:20:21.000 It's like some real low-level heroin. 1.00
01:20:23.000 Goddamn. 0.99
01:20:24.000 I've become addicted to trying to find the best mac and cheese. 1.00
01:20:27.000 Every time I go to a restaurant, I'm like, Damn it, they have one here. 0.96
01:20:30.000 I have to get it. 0.98
01:20:31.000 Cracker Barrel's pretty good. 1.00
01:20:32.000 This motherfucker has the worst diet of all time. 1.00
01:20:35.000 Well, I don't have a bad diet. 1.00
01:20:36.000 I just eat once a day.
01:20:37.000 It's all cigarettes and macaroni and cheese.
01:20:38.000 How could that go wrong?
01:20:39.000 Eating once a day.
01:20:40.000 Yeah, I just eat once a day.
01:20:41.000 At Starbucks.
01:20:42.000 Sleeps at least two hours in his car.
01:20:46.000 How could any of that go wrong?
01:20:48.000 It's not going to go right.
01:20:51.000 Have you ever thought about working with big name MMA guys and getting together with some high level fighters and organizing their Food in their camps.
01:21:03.000 I would love to.
01:21:04.000 I've done some consulting for Frank and for Forrest and stuff like that.
01:21:07.000 Frank went from a vegan diet, I should explain, to your diet and had much better results, he said.
01:21:12.000 He just really felt listless when he was on a vegan diet.
01:21:16.000 I think he was joking around about it.
01:21:18.000 He was probably doing it wrong.
01:21:19.000 Because he was eating so much carbs that his blood sugar just jacked through the roof.
01:21:24.000 And he was having insulin issues.
01:21:27.000 Just from eating pasta all the time.
01:21:29.000 And you see that a lot with folks.
01:21:31.000 And so I think if you have somebody eating vegan and they're doing more like yams, sweet potatoes, fruits for their carbs, then they're probably going to do better.
01:21:38.000 But I just don't see people thrive on it.
01:21:41.000 Matt Danzig fights.
01:21:42.000 He's a vegan.
01:21:43.000 And he does well.
01:21:44.000 He does very well.
01:21:45.000 He's a very skilled guy.
01:21:46.000 And he's been a vegan forever.
01:21:47.000 He does rice protein.
01:21:50.000 He did, at least, the last time I discussed it with him.
01:21:52.000 But yeah, he's a very strict vegan.
01:21:56.000 There's also a piece to the elite athlete scene that they're sometimes not the best people to look to for what everybody should be doing.
01:22:04.000 There are guys out there that can eat anything and still succeed.
01:22:10.000 It's just something to tinker with.
01:22:12.000 Get in and try vegan for a month, see how you do.
01:22:14.000 Try paleo for a month, see how you do, and see which one works for you.
01:22:17.000 Let me tell you about my retarded theory. 0.72
01:22:19.000 I think that things that are hard to catch are better for you.
01:22:23.000 That's why I think deer is so good for you and elk. 0.98
01:22:26.000 There's a reason why they're running so fast to try to get the fuck away. 0.97
01:22:29.000 It's because nature is set it up so they're hard to catch. 0.95
01:22:32.000 Exactly.
01:22:32.000 Fish.
01:22:33.000 Nature is set it up so they're really hard to catch. 1.00
01:22:35.000 Whereas like cows, you could walk right up to a cow and shoot it in the fucking head and the other cows in here... 0.99
01:22:41.000 The other cows near it, we're like, what happened? 1.00
01:22:43.000 They just keep eating their grass.
01:22:44.000 Charlie's gone. 1.00
01:22:45.000 Yeah, they're stupid. 1.00
01:22:46.000 But even though they're delicious, it's not as good for you as, say, elk is. 1.00
01:22:50.000 Like, elk is hard to get.
01:22:51.000 It's hard to get an elk.
01:22:52.000 Right.
01:22:53.000 You know, they're out there running around. 1.00
01:22:54.000 That's a real motherfucker out there living in the wild. 1.00
01:22:57.000 And you gotta go jack him. 1.00
01:22:59.000 Well, if you go fully caveman, if you've got like a hand-thrown spear, then you might end up on the business end of yelling some horns.
01:23:06.000 Well, do you know that people are actually doing that now?
01:23:09.000 That is the latest wave in hunting is spear hunting.
01:23:11.000 Right.
01:23:12.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:23:12.000 People are trying to spear deers and shit. 0.99
01:23:14.000 Good fucking luck. 1.00
01:23:16.000 You're lucky that's recreational, motherfucker. 1.00
01:23:17.000 You're going to starve to death. 1.00
01:23:19.000 There's some YouTube video of me killing a 650-pound elk with a hand-thrown spear. 1.00
01:23:25.000 Holy shit! 0.99
01:23:27.000 Where is this video? 1.00
01:23:28.000 Pull that shit out. 1.00
01:23:28.000 There was a Discovery Channel show called iCaveman. 1.00
01:23:31.000 Wow! 1.00
01:23:31.000 We got trained as cavemen and did this shit for like 10 days. 1.00
01:23:36.000 Where is this show? 0.99
01:23:37.000 Discovery Channel curiosity series.
01:23:41.000 Is it on still?
01:23:42.000 It's still on, yeah.
01:23:43.000 It circulates around.
01:23:45.000 Is it a new show?
01:23:46.000 It was last year.
01:23:47.000 Oh, so it was like a one-off?
01:23:48.000 Yeah.
01:23:48.000 One episode?
01:23:49.000 That should be a goddamn series, Discovery Channel. 1.00
01:23:52.000 That would be fucking awesome. 1.00
01:23:54.000 It was. 0.97
01:23:55.000 They had another one.
01:23:57.000 Morgan Spurlock hosted the one that we were on, then Robin Williams did a show on drug use, and so they would get people whacked on just a variety of drugs and do pet scans on their brain to see what was firing and everything.
01:24:10.000 Wow.
01:24:11.000 Funny enough, the dude, Robert, who was on the show with me for iCaveman, he ended up getting picked for the drug show.
01:24:17.000 He has a sordid past, so it was pretty cool.
01:24:19.000 I would think that a show where people would be forced to actually live like a caveman would be fascinating.
01:24:24.000 To make your own spears and try to make your own bows and arrows.
01:24:28.000 You got nothing, man. 0.95
01:24:30.000 You're just naked. 0.96
01:24:31.000 Right.
01:24:31.000 When you want to tap out, you let us know, and you can tap out, and you can come back to civilization.
01:24:35.000 They gave us clothes, but we had to learn how to make our own fire, make our own tools, and there was this guy, Billy, who was a primitive skills expert, and he could take a big rock, start whacking it, and then have a stone knife in five minutes.
01:24:48.000 It was amazing.
01:24:49.000 I wonder if we could have a show like that where there's a big prize.
01:24:53.000 And it's like, they have to see who can live the longest as a caveman.
01:24:59.000 And if you could do it, you'd get something crazy, like five million bucks.
01:25:03.000 I've had this idea of the weight loss show, but it...
01:25:08.000 So you've got people that are living this kind of caveman-esque lifestyle.
01:25:12.000 They work out and they eat paleo and, you know, they get put through challenges and stuff.
01:25:15.000 But instead of, like, the punishment would actually be giving them westernized refined food, not letting them sleep, making them stay up late and play video games.
01:25:25.000 So basically the punishment would be living the westernized lifestyle.
01:25:28.000 Because it ultimately say like you have like a million dollar prize or something and it's all based on like body composition change or weight loss or something but if you give them the only food to eat is shitty food and you keep them awake and you don't let them exercise and they're not going to lose body weight.
01:25:42.000 That's a great idea.
01:25:43.000 So the punishment is actually living modern life and the only way that you could win like the people who do it best the way that they win is by actually avoiding the modern I think the idea of people who work out hard and then they get to a certain...
01:25:59.000 Is that it?
01:25:59.000 That's it.
01:26:00.000 Did they show you killing it?
01:26:01.000 Yeah, if you back up a little bit, you can see me hucking the... 0.65
01:26:03.000 It's called an atloddle.
01:26:05.000 A little bit more...
01:26:07.000 At least I think so.
01:26:09.000 Depends on...
01:26:10.000 Yeah.
01:26:11.000 I don't know.
01:26:11.000 I guess more.
01:26:12.000 Bring it all to the beginning.
01:26:14.000 This is like a teaser, I think.
01:26:16.000 Maybe it's not in that one.
01:26:18.000 Oh, if you do.
01:26:19.000 There's this one where somebody recorded the TV. Yeah.
01:26:23.000 This will actually show the throw.
01:26:25.000 Dude. 1.00
01:26:28.000 Holy shit. 1.00
01:26:29.000 So that's me with a helmet cam in the atlas. 1.00
01:26:32.000 Wow.
01:26:33.000 Wow.
01:26:37.000 So this is on day eight.
01:26:38.000 We've had no food at all for eight days.
01:26:41.000 Really?
01:26:42.000 I've lost 18 pounds.
01:26:43.000 Oh my god.
01:26:46.000 So you already did this.
01:26:47.000 You already lived like a caveman.
01:26:48.000 This is crazy.
01:26:49.000 Yeah, it was something else.
01:26:54.000 So this is the guy that's a primitive skills expert.
01:26:56.000 Super cool dude, but unfortunately he missed.
01:26:59.000 Here's an opportunity to bring home some meat, and I blew it.
01:27:06.000 Rob is our last chance.
01:27:07.000 The rest of us are just too far away, and these elk can spook at any moment.
01:27:11.000 And I was getting ready to throw my at-level dart, and I was waiting for this elk to turn so that I had the flank and the neck all open.
01:27:21.000 Be ready.
01:27:21.000 Time just was stopped.
01:27:23.000 It felt like the beginning of the world and the end of the world and everything all woven together.
01:27:27.000 You got one.
01:27:30.000 You got one.
01:27:30.000 That one's hit.
01:27:31.000 That one's hit.
01:27:31.000 We got one.
01:27:32.000 I got it in the neck.
01:27:33.000 And I could just see it rifle in, hit the elk in the neck. 0.99
01:27:37.000 the tail end of the dart whipped around and the elk - Oh shit, son. 1.00
01:27:41.000 A kill shot. 0.99
01:27:43.000 Wow. 0.98
01:27:46.000 What an incredible shot.
01:27:47.000 So I'm a total coward, and I knew what we were going to be getting into doing this gig.
01:27:52.000 And so I made my own at level at home like a month early.
01:27:56.000 Explain that.
01:27:57.000 What is it called?
01:27:58.000 It's a spear throwing device?
01:28:00.000 Yeah, it's got a base.
01:28:01.000 If you've ever seen Hi-Li, where you throw the ball.
01:28:04.000 So you've got this base that gives you some leverage.
01:28:07.000 And then you've got a long, flexible dart that looks like a really flexible arrow.
01:28:11.000 But it's six feet long.
01:28:13.000 It's got a stone tip on the front.
01:28:15.000 And the things...
01:28:16.000 What's the show where they...
01:28:18.000 The Warrior vs.
01:28:19.000 Warrior or whatever?
01:28:21.000 Like Ultimate...
01:28:21.000 Ultimate...
01:28:22.000 That's the one that...
01:28:23.000 No, that's not Ultimate Warrior, is it?
01:28:24.000 No, it's the one that Jason was on.
01:28:26.000 That's a wrestler. 0.96
01:28:26.000 Wasn't it the one that... 0.96
01:28:27.000 No, no, no.
01:28:27.000 That was the Human Weapon.
01:28:28.000 Human Weapon.
01:28:29.000 But they checked out an atloddle on that show, and it has as much power as a 273 round because of the weight and the velocity you're able to get on it.
01:28:38.000 The leverage from slinging that thing.
01:28:40.000 How accurate is it?
01:28:41.000 Not very accurate.
01:28:42.000 So you just threw it into the crowd, or did you actually aim for that thing's neck?
01:28:46.000 I aimed for that one.
01:28:47.000 I aimed for its shoulder, and then it went a little high, and actually it was a better shot than what I was aiming for.
01:28:52.000 You must have been stoked.
01:28:54.000 It was pretty amazing because I hadn't eaten anything in eight days. 0.99
01:28:57.000 How the fuck did you survive after not eating anything for eight days? 0.98
01:29:00.000 Dude, I lost 18 pounds, one thing, so you run off your body fat. 0.99
01:29:06.000 It's amazing that you had the strength to throw that thing.
01:29:09.000 Yeah.
01:29:10.000 I mean, we had three more days to go to wrap up the experiment.
01:29:15.000 I did not want to quit.
01:29:17.000 But it was miserable.
01:29:19.000 It was cold.
01:29:19.000 That was outside of Steamboat Springs in Colorado, and the nighttime temperature was like 28 degrees.
01:29:24.000 And you were sleeping outside?
01:29:25.000 And we were sleeping outside on the ground.
01:29:26.000 But we had a hut that we had built and stuff like that. 0.99
01:29:28.000 But it was fucking cold. 0.96
01:29:29.000 You weren't starting any fires? 0.99
01:29:31.000 Yeah, we made a fire.
01:29:32.000 We had to make a fire with a hand drill and all that.
01:29:35.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
01:29:36.000 So how come you guys couldn't find anything to eat for eight days?
01:29:38.000 Well, they stuck us up in the mountains because it was beautiful, and there was no food.
01:29:43.000 The anthropologists on the show were like, yeah, all the Native Americans in this area would be 5,000 feet further down the mountain.
01:29:50.000 We were at almost 9,000 feet up the mountain.
01:29:52.000 Oh, there's not much up there.
01:29:53.000 There's nothing there, and it was shot in June.
01:29:55.000 Oh, Jesus.
01:29:56.000 Yeah.
01:29:57.000 In June at 9,000 feet, it gets 28 degrees at night?
01:30:00.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:30:01.000 Motherfucker. 1.00
01:30:02.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:30:03.000 It snowed on us the first night that we were there.
01:30:05.000 Oh, God.
01:30:06.000 In June?
01:30:07.000 Yeah.
01:30:07.000 Yeah.
01:30:08.000 Wow. 1.00
01:30:10.000 Dude, you killed a fucking elk with a spear. 1.00
01:30:13.000 Odwaddle or whatever the hell it is. 1.00
01:30:14.000 Atwaddle.
01:30:15.000 Atwaddle.
01:30:15.000 That's amazing, man.
01:30:17.000 It was pretty cool.
01:30:17.000 That is pretty cool.
01:30:18.000 Elk are incredible animals, man.
01:30:21.000 Yeah.
01:30:21.000 When I went to Evergreen, there's this crazy photo of the town of Evergreen.
01:30:26.000 It's beautiful.
01:30:26.000 You ever been there?
01:30:27.000 Yeah.
01:30:27.000 Beautiful town up in the mountains above Denver.
01:30:30.000 And there's this photo on the town's website where it's like...
01:30:35.000 I don't know, a hundred elk walking right down the middle of their mainstream, completely blocking traffic. 0.99
01:30:41.000 It's like, holy shit! 0.99
01:30:43.000 What a cool little piece of nature that these delicious animals wander through your whole town by the hundreds and then make their way through the forest. 1.00
01:30:54.000 There's something fucking magical about that, man. 1.00
01:30:56.000 I mean, it sucks a big fat dick when it snows up there. 1.00
01:30:59.000 Right. 1.00
01:30:59.000 Your car's sliding around on mountain roads and all that. 1.00
01:31:02.000 That's all terrible.
01:31:03.000 But man, just the majestic beauty of being in front of a herd of elk and watch them walk across the street.
01:31:08.000 It's like, wow.
01:31:09.000 Yeah, those animals were amazing.
01:31:11.000 They were totally amazing to behold.
01:31:13.000 When we were out there, they would spook and then run away from us.
01:31:16.000 But some of the bulls would turn around and it was kind of like...
01:31:20.000 That guy is smaller than I am. 1.00
01:31:22.000 Yeah, I ain't afraid of you, bitch. 1.00
01:31:23.000 Yeah, seriously. 1.00
01:31:24.000 And apparently we're not used to hunters, otherwise they would have run.
01:31:27.000 Well, you know, where that spot was, we were coming up a hill, and the sun was coming up behind us, and the wind was blowing over the elk.
01:31:34.000 So they couldn't see us yet, really.
01:31:36.000 Like, the sun literally was in their eyes.
01:31:37.000 So that was part of the reason why we succeeded that day.
01:31:40.000 And then also because it was day eight, and we had failed all the other days.
01:31:44.000 We only had two camera crew, and they were set up like 400 yards away, kind of triangulated in on where we were to get distant shots.
01:31:52.000 So the only local camera we had was on my head.
01:31:54.000 And that's part of the reason why we succeeded too.
01:31:56.000 Usually we had like six camera guys stomping through the underbrush. 0.99
01:31:59.000 Cockblocking the fucking... 1.00
01:32:01.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:32:02.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:32:03.000 Ridiculous. 0.98
01:32:03.000 That's not going to work. 0.98
01:32:05.000 No.
01:32:05.000 So how many different times did you actually throw that thing at an elk?
01:32:09.000 I only got two shots off.
01:32:11.000 So the first one went high, which they didn't show in that, and then my second one hit it.
01:32:14.000 Same day?
01:32:15.000 Yeah.
01:32:15.000 So there was no time during the other eight days where you got a shot?
01:32:18.000 Not me.
01:32:19.000 Not me.
01:32:20.000 Other guys did.
01:32:20.000 Other people went out and had shots, but I never got in a position where I had a shot.
01:32:24.000 Wow, so no one found any food for the eight days, or some folks had found something?
01:32:26.000 I mean, like dandelions.
01:32:28.000 We had like four trout one day, divided up among ten people.
01:32:34.000 So, I mean, not a lot.
01:32:36.000 Yeah.
01:32:37.000 There was a mouse.
01:32:38.000 You ate a mouse?
01:32:39.000 I ate a mouse. 1.00
01:32:40.000 Oh, what the fuck, man? 1.00
01:32:42.000 I cooked it really well. 1.00
01:32:43.000 Oh, Jesus.
01:32:44.000 Just in case there was like dengue fever in it or something. 1.00
01:32:46.000 Jesus, a fucking mouse? 1.00
01:32:47.000 What does a mouse taste like? 1.00
01:32:51.000 Well, yeah, it didn't taste good.
01:32:53.000 I don't know an analogous taste.
01:32:55.000 It just wasn't good.
01:32:56.000 I mean, it was burnt, and you're eating the intestines, and you're crunching through the skull.
01:33:01.000 You ate the intestines and everything?
01:33:02.000 It's too small, the gut.
01:33:03.000 So you just cook it really well, and you just start on the front end and finish with the tail end. 1.00
01:33:07.000 Holy shit! 0.99
01:33:08.000 So you just chewed it down, bones and all? 1.00
01:33:09.000 Oh, yeah.
01:33:12.000 Mice are pretty fast.
01:33:13.000 I guess that kills that theory.
01:33:15.000 Oh my god, have you, what is that crazy dish that, it's a famous dish where they take little birds and they drown them in brandy?
01:33:25.000 What?
01:33:26.000 Ortolan, what is it called?
01:33:28.000 I've never heard of this.
01:33:28.000 I have the, yeah, of course, my crazy friend Duncan turned me on to this.
01:33:33.000 He claims that I turned him on to it, but I think he's crazy.
01:33:37.000 But the idea is that they would take these birds, and it was some weird, ridiculous delicacy, where they would eat it.
01:33:49.000 Yeah, Ortolan, this is what it is.
01:33:52.000 A rite of passage for French gourmets has been eating of the ordelan. 0.98
01:33:56.000 These tiny birds captured alive, force-fed, and then drowned in Armagnac.
01:34:03.000 I guess it's a type of cognac or something like that.
01:34:05.000 Were roasted whole and eaten that way, bones and all, while the diner draped his head with a linen napkin to preserve the precious aromas and, some believe, to hide from God.
01:34:18.000 That's pretty barbaric.
01:34:19.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:34:21.000 Yeah, what the fuck? 1.00
01:34:22.000 That's a weird way to eat an animal. 1.00
01:34:24.000 I mean, how'd they figure out how to make it delicious?
01:34:27.000 Overfeed it and then drown it in bourbon.
01:34:30.000 In booze. 0.89
01:34:30.000 In booze. 0.89
01:34:32.000 What a weird animal, man.
01:34:33.000 I'll pass on that.
01:34:34.000 It sounds like a mafia hit.
01:34:35.000 The idea that you wear a hood over your head while you eat it to get the aromas.
01:34:39.000 Right. 0.98
01:34:40.000 Like, whoa, that's just fucking weird. 0.99
01:34:43.000 Is that the French? 0.99
01:34:44.000 Of course.
01:34:45.000 Yeah, naturally. 0.94
01:34:46.000 Creepy weirdos. 0.72
01:34:47.000 Yeah. 0.96
01:34:47.000 Crazy ideas about drowning birds. 0.96
01:34:50.000 Don't they make foie gras also?
01:34:52.000 Which is for feeding.
01:34:53.000 Delicious.
01:34:54.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:34:56.000 But that shit's really good. 1.00
01:34:58.000 Right. 1.00
01:34:59.000 Yeah, that shit's legit. 1.00
01:35:01.000 It's illegal now in California. 1.00
01:35:03.000 Right.
01:35:03.000 You can bring your own foie gras to the restaurant and they'll cook it for you.
01:35:06.000 Oh, really?
01:35:07.000 They can't buy it. 0.98
01:35:08.000 That's so silly. 0.94
01:35:10.000 Which is another one of these market deals. 0.95
01:35:12.000 So you took something that was regulated.
01:35:14.000 People kept track of it.
01:35:15.000 There were some standards and some hygiene.
01:35:17.000 And so now you've driven it into a black market deal.
01:35:21.000 Black market.
01:35:22.000 And by the way, it's not like they're running out of goose.
01:35:25.000 We're trying to protect the goose. 1.00
01:35:26.000 No, you can kill the fucking shit out of goose. 1.00
01:35:28.000 Geese. 1.00
01:35:29.000 You can kill them all day long. 1.00
01:35:30.000 Nobody cares. 1.00
01:35:31.000 You just can't inflame their livers before you kill them. 0.99
01:35:34.000 You have to be nice to them. 0.97
01:35:35.000 Meanwhile, if you ever see one of those feeding tubes where they force feed them, they hang out near that feeding tube.
01:35:40.000 They want to get force fed. 0.65
01:35:41.000 They don't have gag instincts. 0.98
01:35:43.000 They just know when that thing goes in their mouth, then they're full.
01:35:46.000 We're so weird with what we allow, what we don't.
01:35:50.000 You still allow veal.
01:35:51.000 Like, veal seems to me way crueler than a couple of seconds getting force-fed with some grain.
01:35:56.000 You know, veal is a tricky thing.
01:35:58.000 Or just Jersey Shore.
01:36:00.000 So, yeah.
01:36:00.000 I mean, that seems inhumane, too.
01:36:02.000 So, yeah.
01:36:03.000 What do you do?
01:36:04.000 Do you eat veal?
01:36:06.000 If it's there, I do.
01:36:07.000 But, I mean, it's not something.
01:36:08.000 Do you ever think about how creepy it is?
01:36:10.000 It's pretty creepy.
01:36:11.000 It's pretty creepy.
01:36:12.000 I mean, it's like Kobe beef, you know.
01:36:13.000 It's all rubbed and massaged and, you know, milk-fed and everything.
01:36:18.000 Kobe beef is like, don't they feed it alcohol?
01:36:21.000 Look at this, Joe.
01:36:23.000 Pita.
01:36:24.000 Is that pita?
01:36:26.000 They're so crazy what they're connecting human beings to animals.
01:36:30.000 Force feeding a person.
01:36:31.000 It's always quasi-sexual.
01:36:34.000 She's got her lipstick running. 1.00
01:36:36.000 They're so silly. 1.00
01:36:38.000 They're all extremists. 1.00
01:36:39.000 They're silly. 1.00
01:36:41.000 Yep, and one of them will probably kill me someday. 1.00
01:36:44.000 Because you killed that elk with a spear? 0.98
01:36:46.000 Even more so now, yeah.
01:36:47.000 Did you get hate mail after you did that?
01:36:49.000 Not hate mail, but there was some hate tweeting.
01:36:53.000 People were upset at you?
01:36:54.000 Yeah, and there was a woman who was... 1.00
01:36:56.000 Why are people upset?
01:36:57.000 Meanwhile, they're probably meat eaters.
01:36:59.000 You know, the funny thing is there was a woman who's a cartoonist who is a meat eater, but thought that it was appalling that I hunted an animal. 0.55
01:37:06.000 And I was kind of like, okay. 0.99
01:37:07.000 That's so dumb! 0.99
01:37:09.000 It's not like I was sitting a quarter mile away with a sniper scope. 1.00
01:37:14.000 I was out on my feet.
01:37:15.000 This animal could have stomped me into a bloody mess if it wanted to. 1.00
01:37:20.000 So it's about as equal an exchange as you're going to get. 1.00
01:37:23.000 Doubt some real shit. 1.00
01:37:25.000 You went to war with an animal. 1.00
01:37:26.000 Right. 1.00
01:37:27.000 With some shit you made. 1.00
01:37:28.000 Right. 1.00
01:37:29.000 Right.
01:37:29.000 Yeah.
01:37:30.000 No, I think you win. 1.00
01:37:31.000 I think that lady can shut her fucking hole. 1.00
01:37:33.000 Shut your hole, lady. 1.00
01:37:35.000 See you next Tuesday. 1.00
01:37:36.000 It's so dumb. 1.00
01:37:37.000 Shut your meat hole. 1.00
01:37:38.000 But it's so dumb if you eat meat. 1.00
01:37:40.000 If you actually eat meat, would you prefer your pig to be stuffed into some fucking crazy container and live its life in its own shit until it finally gets slaughtered? 1.00
01:37:49.000 You know, is that somehow or another better if you're not involved? 1.00
01:37:52.000 Yeah.
01:37:53.000 Yeah.
01:37:53.000 It's so weird.
01:37:55.000 We're the strangest animal with this anti-hunting but pro-meat thing.
01:37:59.000 Right.
01:37:59.000 It's like you're not going to stop people from eating meat.
01:38:02.000 You could go crazy pita all you want.
01:38:04.000 You go crazy vegan all you want.
01:38:05.000 For a lot of people that's blah, blah, blah, in and out is delicious.
01:38:10.000 You know? 0.98
01:38:11.000 Barbecue is too fucking good. 0.98
01:38:13.000 Right. 0.99
01:38:13.000 Tastes too goddamn good. 0.99
01:38:15.000 A real good ribeye, medium rare, over mesquite coals. 1.00
01:38:19.000 Shut your fucking mouth with your quinoa. 1.00
01:38:22.000 It's not as good. 1.00
01:38:23.000 I'm sorry.
01:38:23.000 It's just not.
01:38:24.000 It's not.
01:38:25.000 And that's why the vegans are always trying to make fake meat. 1.00
01:38:28.000 Yeah, they're silly. 1.00
01:38:29.000 The fake chicken and shit like that. 1.00
01:38:31.000 The tofurkey. 0.99
01:38:32.000 Yeah.
01:38:33.000 The thing about it is, like, yeah, it seems like we should evolve past that.
01:38:37.000 It seems like we shouldn't be about cruelty, and it seems like we shouldn't be...
01:38:41.000 But what is the least cruel thing?
01:38:44.000 The least cruel thing is to have an animal live its whole life completely wild and free, and you take it out with a bullet.
01:38:50.000 Right. 0.99
01:38:50.000 And then no one doesn't know what the fuck is going on. 0.99
01:38:53.000 It just hears a branch snap... 0.99
01:38:55.000 Boom! 0.99
01:38:56.000 One through the heart and that's a wrap, son.
01:38:58.000 I mean, that's a quick death.
01:39:00.000 That is a lot better than a cow living on a farm.
01:39:02.000 Yet people have a problem with people hunting and they don't have a problem eating at Burger King.
01:39:06.000 Right.
01:39:07.000 That is strange.
01:39:09.000 People are strange.
01:39:10.000 We get really weird once we got agriculture and we got the ability to have a surplus.
01:39:16.000 We got the ability to store things.
01:39:20.000 I think when you were still running farms, you were still tied into food because you had to go out and kill your food.
01:39:27.000 There was a little more tie to it.
01:39:30.000 When you walk into a grocery store and kids really don't understand that plants grow in the dirt.
01:39:37.000 You know, that corn or, you know, an apple or whatever grew from a plant that's in the dirt.
01:39:40.000 They don't even realize that. 0.99
01:39:42.000 And then when you go to the meat deal and you understand what's involved with killing and processing an animal, like it's pretty gruesome shit. 0.99
01:39:49.000 You know, it's no joke. 0.99
01:39:51.000 Yeah.
01:39:51.000 Yeah.
01:39:52.000 Yeah, it's no joke.
01:39:53.000 Do we have to be concerned with a lack of minerals in the topsoil?
01:39:57.000 I've read people have discussed whether or not it's healthy to be trying to replenish them with chemicals and whether or not there's supposed to be a natural cycle of leaving certain areas alone for a while and then planting them in the future.
01:40:12.000 Could I answer that after taking a leak?
01:40:15.000 Yeah, I saw you turning.
01:40:17.000 I'll be right back.
01:40:18.000 Go through that door and the last door on the left.
01:40:24.000 Notice, ladies and gentlemen, how strong my bladder is.
01:40:28.000 Yeah, that's not good for you, to hold it.
01:40:30.000 What, to have a strong bladder?
01:40:30.000 To hold it.
01:40:31.000 I used to hold it all the time.
01:40:32.000 Now I try to go.
01:40:33.000 The second I feel like, oh, I might have to pee, I try to go.
01:40:36.000 Because I used to hold it for long periods of time.
01:40:39.000 But my bladder, it doesn't hurt me.
01:40:41.000 No, but it just...
01:40:42.000 It doesn't bother me.
01:40:42.000 If you do that over time, you're going to have a hard time holding your pee in when you get older.
01:40:47.000 What?
01:40:48.000 Yeah.
01:40:48.000 Dude, when I have a hard time holding my pee in...
01:40:52.000 I'm not down with that.
01:40:53.000 But I don't agree with that. 0.91
01:40:55.000 I think that's silly.
01:40:56.000 No.
01:40:57.000 You've never heard that before?
01:40:58.000 No.
01:40:58.000 If it bothered me a lot, I would go pee.
01:41:00.000 Yeah.
01:41:00.000 But it's not really...
01:41:01.000 I can just hold it longer.
01:41:03.000 I drink a lot of water, too.
01:41:04.000 Maybe it's something I'm used to it.
01:41:06.000 Maybe I have a more stretched out bladder.
01:41:08.000 No, I mean, I totally just could never pee all day.
01:41:11.000 I could pee once a day if I wanted to, I think.
01:41:13.000 Only once a day?
01:41:14.000 I used to hold my pee a lot because of jobs that I worked at.
01:41:17.000 Louis C.K. had a funny bit.
01:41:18.000 You ever hold your pee because you're just so bored?
01:41:23.000 He wants to concentrate on something.
01:41:25.000 I forget the actual joke, but it's so true. 0.88
01:41:28.000 So bored, you're just holding in your pee. 0.96
01:41:32.000 Man, tomorrow's podcast with Maynard is going to be ridiculous. 0.89
01:41:37.000 Yeah, I wonder if he's going to bring some of his wine.
01:41:39.000 I want to try it.
01:41:40.000 I find that amazing.
01:41:41.000 I think that is just one of the most original things that a rock star has ever done.
01:41:48.000 Call him a rock star, musician, artist, just decides to become a winemaker.
01:41:52.000 I think that's amazing.
01:41:53.000 I love the idea behind it.
01:41:56.000 Growing it on his own farm, it's a small operation.
01:41:59.000 They grow the grapes, the whole thing, the whole process.
01:42:01.000 I think that's amazing, man.
01:42:03.000 I'm really, really interested with, I don't know if I talked about this, about Francis Ford Coppola's daughter, Sophie?
01:42:10.000 Sophia Coppola?
01:42:10.000 Sophia Coppa.
01:42:12.000 Her wine company is...
01:42:14.000 Pretty cool what she's doing with it.
01:42:16.000 She's doing something that I think is pretty unique and I'm actually...
01:42:21.000 I'm on board 100%.
01:42:23.000 She's sawing little portable wine in cans, like pop cans.
01:42:29.000 And they're like the small Cokes.
01:42:31.000 If you're by the small Coke cans, they're like in that.
01:42:34.000 Or she has this other one where it's like this little wine glass that just has a peel-off thing and it has like a resealable... 0.84
01:42:42.000 Lived for it, and it's just like completely like the opposite of what you're supposed to drink wine.
01:42:48.000 Yeah, the high-end like wine.
01:42:49.000 It's like like a new version of portable box wine.
01:42:52.000 Doesn't her father Francis Ford Coppola doesn't he have a vineyards like a very famous vineyard?
01:42:57.000 Yeah, that's where she she's doing her own thing. 1.00
01:42:59.000 I don't know if it's at the same vineyard or not, but that's kind of that's kind of smart.
01:43:04.000 Yeah She does everything her dad does. 0.98
01:43:07.000 That's a good move when your dad's Francis Ford motherfucking Coppola. 0.98
01:43:10.000 Then you can do whatever you want. 0.98
01:43:11.000 Yeah, why not? 1.00
01:43:12.000 I want to make some portable wine, bitch. 1.00
01:43:15.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:43:15.000 But when you look at the economy and everything, I mean, instead of driving towards the top end, then you make some cheap, you know, box wine style stuff within a different delivery deal. 0.98
01:43:25.000 Yeah, totally.
01:43:25.000 Yeah, for a lot of people, there's not that much difference between a $30 bottle of wine and a $5 bottle of wine.
01:43:30.000 Right, especially after the first bottle.
01:43:32.000 Yeah, especially after the first few sips. 1.00
01:43:34.000 If you're a sommelier and you're hammered, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 0.99
01:43:37.000 Let's be honest. 0.99
01:43:38.000 Right.
01:43:38.000 How bad is alcohol for you?
01:43:40.000 Uh...
01:43:41.000 I mean, the poison's all in the dose, so, I mean, I have a couple drinks a day, and, you know, not too bad, and I stick more with, like, NorCal margaritas, just, like, tequila, lime juice.
01:43:53.000 You drink a couple drinks every day?
01:43:54.000 Yeah, usually. 0.98
01:43:55.000 You're an animal. 1.00
01:43:57.000 You don't give a fuck. 1.00
01:43:58.000 It's wild. 1.00
01:43:59.000 It's crazy.
01:44:00.000 Health and nutrition.
01:44:00.000 You're drinking two drinks a day?
01:44:03.000 Probably.
01:44:03.000 Yeah?
01:44:03.000 Yeah, one to two.
01:44:04.000 Yeah.
01:44:05.000 That's no big deal?
01:44:06.000 I don't think that that's all that big of a deal.
01:44:08.000 If I was in training camp for something, then I would ditch it.
01:44:11.000 Obviously, you know, you need to tighten stuff up, but...
01:44:13.000 If you're doing six, eight drinks a night or multiple times a week, obviously that's a problem.
01:44:21.000 It's just kind of a dose-response curve.
01:44:24.000 If you're a dude, then you can probably get away with a drink or two a day, and it's probably healthful in the long run.
01:44:32.000 For a female, a little bit less than that. 1.00
01:44:33.000 How is it helpful?
01:44:35.000 Is it helpful because you're relaxed?
01:44:37.000 Because you have the drink?
01:44:39.000 Is it helpful because is there anything in the alcohol?
01:44:41.000 I think it's that stuff.
01:44:42.000 You know, you relax.
01:44:42.000 There's usually some socialization that goes on.
01:44:46.000 There's some stuff in the alcohol...
01:44:48.000 It's interesting, like, just being exposed to a stress, there's this process called hormesis, where, like, when you exercise, you get some damage to the muscles or to the cardiovascular system, and your body needs to adapt to that, and it's actually the process of adapting that's good for you.
01:45:03.000 And alcohol causes some damage to the body that then it needs to respond to, and there's some kind of beneficial, you know, elements to that.
01:45:10.000 I had a crazy idea when I was younger. 0.92
01:45:12.000 It's a stupid idea, but it was like, if you smoke cigarettes, maybe it would make your lungs stronger, because they'd have to fight off the cigarette smoke. 0.99
01:45:19.000 I really did think that. 1.00
01:45:20.000 You just got to quit when you were about 40. When I was in wrestling, one of the best kids on our wrestling team was a smoker, and I was worried about that.
01:45:26.000 That's Sophia's little wine.
01:45:27.000 Yeah, see, it's like kind of selling it like a can of beer. 0.94
01:45:31.000 She's selling it like a handjob. 1.00
01:45:32.000 All you're seeing is her hand in the water. 0.99
01:45:34.000 You're thinking, slippery.
01:45:36.000 Why are we outside?
01:45:37.000 Booze.
01:45:37.000 What are you doing?
01:45:38.000 You're jerking me off. 1.00
01:45:41.000 Stop, you shouldn't do this. 1.00
01:45:42.000 This is your dad's house.
01:45:45.000 Francis Ford Coppola's house, no less.
01:45:47.000 Jesus Christ, people are watching.
01:45:49.000 There must be cameras.
01:45:50.000 Yeah, so one or two drinks a day, no problem.
01:45:53.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:45:55.000 People right now went, yes!
01:45:57.000 Because no one ever hears that.
01:45:58.000 Everyone hears alcohol is terrible for you.
01:46:00.000 Yeah, and it's not.
01:46:02.000 They try to demonize a lot of stuff, whether it's red meat or booze or whatever.
01:46:07.000 Because I'm the gluten-free deal, and I love beer, but beer is loaded with gluten.
01:46:13.000 Yeah, so how do you do that?
01:46:14.000 So I don't drink beer.
01:46:15.000 You don't drink beer.
01:46:16.000 You've got to go margaritas or something.
01:46:17.000 Margaritas.
01:46:18.000 I've been doing cider.
01:46:19.000 After we spent some time in Northern Europe, they do some amazing ciders.
01:46:23.000 So I do some of that stuff.
01:46:25.000 I wonder if it's...
01:46:26.000 I get a real weird heavy feeling from beer that I don't get from other things.
01:46:30.000 When I have a couple of glasses of whiskey, I get drunk, but I don't get that like...
01:46:37.000 The bloat?
01:46:37.000 Yeah.
01:46:38.000 You never drink light beers though.
01:46:39.000 You always drink like the Heineken's and Sam Adams.
01:46:43.000 Yeah, I mean dark beer is really the only way to go, but it's got the most kind of gnarly stuff in it too.
01:46:48.000 Yeah, like Guinness.
01:46:50.000 Yeah, God, I love that stuff. 0.99
01:46:51.000 A lot of bad shit in there though. 0.99
01:46:52.000 Half and half. 1.00
01:46:53.000 Not good for you.
01:46:56.000 Hey, you guys want some half and halves?
01:46:57.000 I'll go get one.
01:46:58.000 You want to get one right now?
01:46:59.000 Yeah.
01:47:00.000 Alright, go get some drinks.
01:47:01.000 I'll do it. 1.00
01:47:01.000 Fuck it. 1.00
01:47:03.000 Something with clear booze. 1.00
01:47:05.000 I'll pass on it.
01:47:06.000 Get something with clear booze.
01:47:07.000 Is the bar open?
01:47:09.000 I don't know what time is it.
01:47:10.000 It's only 5.15.
01:47:11.000 Maybe. 1.00
01:47:12.000 What the fuck are you doing? 1.00
01:47:12.000 You're promising shit you can't deliver. 1.00
01:47:14.000 I'll see if I can get something. 1.00
01:47:16.000 So what about coffee?
01:47:18.000 Dig coffee.
01:47:19.000 Yeah.
01:47:20.000 And when you look at the epidemiology, probably the more you drink, the better.
01:47:24.000 The more you drink coffee, the better?
01:47:26.000 Yeah, I mean, it's like three, four cups a day.
01:47:28.000 Now, the problem is that usually people don't drink espresso or straight coffee.
01:47:32.000 They're usually dumping a bunch of sugar in it. 0.99
01:47:34.000 So that's kind of the caveat with it.
01:47:37.000 But it decreases diabetes rates.
01:47:40.000 There you go.
01:47:41.000 You just drank your diabetes away.
01:47:43.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:47:44.000 Really?
01:47:45.000 Say that again about diabetes?
01:47:46.000 It decreases diabetes rates.
01:47:48.000 It decreases cardiovascular disease rates.
01:47:50.000 It's good stuff.
01:47:52.000 Wow.
01:47:52.000 Now, let's take that.
01:47:54.000 Let's say you're a police or firefighter and you're working night shift and you're working out like crazy and you're using caffeine to drive a lifestyle that is totally over the top.
01:48:05.000 Then it's not necessarily good.
01:48:07.000 It's going to get into some adrenal fatigue.
01:48:09.000 Your adrenals are the...
01:48:10.000 You know, the hormones release cortisol and it deals with stress and you can completely bomb that whole system out.
01:48:17.000 And then you can drop testosterone levels and drop your immune function.
01:48:21.000 That happened with a friend of mine.
01:48:22.000 He quit coffee for that very reason.
01:48:24.000 His adrenals started failing.
01:48:25.000 Right, right.
01:48:26.000 So you can overdo it in that regard, but it's kind of like lifestyle plus, bad lifestyle plus too much coffee is bad.
01:48:33.000 But if you have a lifestyle that's a little bit more sedate, like when we go on vacation, I can drink coffee all day long and it doesn't faze me.
01:48:41.000 When I'm working and I've got deadlines and stuff and I've got that base level of stress, then I can't do much coffee.
01:48:47.000 That's interesting because that's when a lot of people would think that you would need it.
01:48:51.000 You're stressed out, you need some energy, then you take the coffee.
01:48:54.000 Yeah.
01:48:56.000 That's when you could overdo it.
01:48:57.000 Interesting thing, for more cognitive type stuff, like writing or trying to do creative work, doing nicotine gum, Yeah, I've heard of that.
01:49:08.000 That's crazy.
01:49:10.000 It's amazing.
01:49:10.000 That's one of the things that Stephen King said he missed about smoking.
01:49:14.000 He said the synaptic responses when he was writing would be much improved with cigarettes.
01:49:19.000 If that's the right way to say it, synaptic responses, is that what's going on when you're writing?
01:49:24.000 Just making connections and stuff.
01:49:27.000 So nicotine gum can make you creative.
01:49:31.000 And there's good studies showing that nicotine is preventative against Parkinson's and Alzheimer's.
01:49:37.000 It's supposed to be good for your heart, too, right?
01:49:39.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:49:39.000 That's ridiculous. 0.99
01:49:40.000 But you've got to remove the delivery system, which is tobacco. 0.74
01:49:43.000 Well, which is 590 different chemicals jammed into tobacco.
01:49:46.000 Right, in addition to all that stuff.
01:49:47.000 Yeah.
01:49:48.000 I did a thing once.
01:49:50.000 It's me and my friend Adam Ferrara.
01:49:52.000 He used to smoke cigarettes.
01:49:54.000 I don't know if he still does.
01:49:55.000 He's a comedian on that TV show Top Gear in the United States.
01:50:00.000 We did a thing together a long time ago.
01:50:03.000 This play thing.
01:50:04.000 And I had to play this poet who was completely full of himself and smoked all day and smoked like a Frenchman. 1.00
01:50:11.000 Like smoked backwards.
01:50:12.000 And I only smoked like four or five cigarettes while we were rehearsing this day.
01:50:16.000 And I had to quit.
01:50:17.000 I said, I can't do this part.
01:50:18.000 I can't do it, man.
01:50:19.000 I feel like I'm going to throw up.
01:50:21.000 I can't smoke a cigarette.
01:50:22.000 The whole thing was I'm supposed to be smoking the whole time. 0.99
01:50:25.000 I'm like, how the fuck do you guys do this? 1.00
01:50:26.000 This is nuts. 1.00
01:50:28.000 You're poisoning the shit. 1.00
01:50:29.000 I felt like I was becoming a vampire. 1.00
01:50:30.000 I felt it taking over me.
01:50:32.000 I'm like, no.
01:50:32.000 No, no, no.
01:50:33.000 You've got to take these back.
01:50:34.000 What a madness, you know?
01:50:37.000 Yeah, I mean, when you look at tobacco, like, whenever it hits somewhere, it spreads fast, and it sticks pretty hard. 0.97
01:50:44.000 Well, the real madness is how many people fucking die from it, and yet it's still so prevalent.
01:50:49.000 And even amongst young people, in 2012, the internet out there, for whatever reason, there's this weird romantic pull towards self-destruction through use of tobacco. 0.98
01:50:59.000 It's really fucking strange to me.
01:51:02.000 Do you ever read Malcolm Gladwell's books? 0.96
01:51:06.000 Was his the tipping point?
01:51:08.000 I think it was the tipping point, but he talked about the fact that if you try to demonize something and make it not cool, that kids are going to gravitate towards it even more.
01:51:19.000 Yeah, well, anything their parents don't want them to do. 0.99
01:51:23.000 Get the fuck away from me. 1.00
01:51:24.000 They just want to stop telling me what to do, you cocksucker. 1.00
01:51:27.000 Give me that cigarette. 1.00
01:51:28.000 Oh, my dad's an asshole. 1.00
01:51:30.000 Yeah, that's what it is. 1.00
01:51:31.000 But that hopefully can be avoided.
01:51:34.000 Sorry, the bar was closed so I couldn't get any clear drinks.
01:51:37.000 No problem.
01:51:37.000 No problem.
01:51:38.000 But I have vodka and ice if you want that.
01:51:41.000 Yeah, because otherwise it's only us drinking.
01:51:43.000 I'm going to drink this Guinness with pride now, knowing it's actually good for me.
01:51:47.000 Sort of, kind of, but not the wheat.
01:51:49.000 Yeah, if we could figure out some way to make it without wheat or barley. 0.96
01:51:53.000 It's just shitty for your body.
01:51:55.000 What is the best alcohol? 0.93
01:51:57.000 Is there a better alcohol to drink?
01:51:58.000 Just anything clear.
01:52:00.000 Like vodka, tequila, whiskey.
01:52:02.000 Whiskey's clear?
01:52:03.000 Yeah.
01:52:03.000 I mean, it doesn't have sugar.
01:52:07.000 It doesn't have gluten.
01:52:09.000 Holy cat.
01:52:10.000 Wow.
01:52:11.000 What is that in there?
01:52:13.000 It's a whole lot of vodka.
01:52:15.000 Uh-oh. 1.00
01:52:16.000 Trying to get them fucked up, man. 0.99
01:52:19.000 Does marijuana have any adverse effects on performance? 0.99
01:52:23.000 Yeah, I mean, it's going to impact lung function to some degree.
01:52:26.000 If you really go to town on marijuana, it's got enough of a phytoestrogenic effect that you can suppress testosterone.
01:52:33.000 Like that old wives' tale about dudes growing tits because they smoke too much weed? 0.87
01:52:38.000 Is that like their diet? 1.00
01:52:40.000 You can't grow tits, can you? 1.00
01:52:41.000 You can't grow tits, but you can suppress testosterone production. 1.00
01:52:45.000 How much do you have to be smoking to do that? 0.98
01:52:46.000 You smoke a lot.
01:52:47.000 I mean, a lot. 0.97
01:52:49.000 You've got to go crazy.
01:52:50.000 Yeah. 0.93
01:52:51.000 But, you know, pot's another...
01:52:53.000 It's interesting when it's contrasted with, say, tobacco.
01:52:56.000 You don't see the same type of emphysema.
01:53:00.000 You don't see the same type of carcinogenic effects, even though you've got all...
01:53:04.000 I mean, you're creating a ton of different chemicals.
01:53:06.000 When you burn something, you make these things, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, these soot particles that get in between DNA and can cause problems.
01:53:14.000 When you look at the research on marijuana use, you just don't see the same types of things popping up.
01:53:20.000 Now, for a hard-charging athlete, I think that you would probably be better off if you want to have a relaxing evening, like making some brownies or something like that.
01:53:29.000 The delivery system is going to change the effects a lot, for sure.
01:53:33.000 Well, the delivery system changes the effects, but it's also vaporizing, which is the same sort of delivery system, a very similar delivery system, but you're just getting the THC vapor and you're not getting all the carbon.
01:53:45.000 Other goodies.
01:53:46.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:53:46.000 All the burnt shit. 1.00
01:53:48.000 Right. 1.00
01:53:48.000 They say that marijuana smoke is actually an expectorant and it's good for cleaning out lungs. 1.00
01:53:53.000 If you've got some shit in your lungs and you smoke something, but that could just be pot talk. 0.86
01:53:57.000 There's some stuff like mullein also, which is used for that. 0.99
01:54:01.000 I could see that to some degree.
01:54:02.000 What is mullein?
01:54:06.000 It's actually a North American herb, like traditional Native American kind of medicine, stuff like that.
01:54:13.000 Weed.
01:54:14.000 It has some other benefits, but in folklore it's used as an expectorin as well.
01:54:22.000 Now, what about, like, Advil and ibuprofen and non-steroidal anti-inflammatories?
01:54:27.000 Are those dangerous for your body?
01:54:29.000 They're super dangerous.
01:54:30.000 Really?
01:54:30.000 Each year, thousands of people, I don't know, like, it'd be easy to do a doctor Google on that, but see, you know, how many deaths there are each year due to NSAIDs, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory overdoses.
01:54:44.000 Wow. 0.98
01:54:45.000 Fucked up stuff. 0.98
01:54:46.000 With Vicodin, they pair Vicodin with acetaminophen, Tylenol, with the express purpose so that people don't take more of it to get a narcotic effect because it will cause liver damage. 0.98
01:55:00.000 And there are thousands of people that end up dying But, you know, inadvertently because they may have a drink and then they take some Vicodin, which you're not really supposed to do.
01:55:08.000 But the acetaminophen makes the whole thing so much more toxic.
01:55:11.000 Like, they're literally killing people into no better effect versus taking, you know, if somebody has some legitimate pain, just taking some opiates is going to be really powerful on that.
01:55:21.000 You may not want to stay on that forever because the stuff's super addictive and has all kinds of other side effects.
01:55:25.000 But a lot of our kind of drugs policy, even on the orthodox side, Over-the-counter side is really goofy.
01:55:33.000 And the stuff is dangerous.
01:55:35.000 There are a lot of people who will work out, get sore, take NSAIDs to go work out again.
01:55:40.000 What is NSAIDs?
01:55:42.000 Non-steroidal anti-inflammatories.
01:55:44.000 And it's bad on a lot of levels.
01:55:46.000 One of them, I mentioned the hormesis before, like the adaptation to exercise.
01:55:50.000 If you take NSAIDs in conjunction with exercise, you're blocking some of the adaptation.
01:55:55.000 So it's that same thing.
01:55:56.000 It's kind of like exercising and missing sleep. 0.99
01:55:59.000 You're not going to So if you have a backache and you take ibuprofen, you're actually fucking yourself. 0.97
01:56:07.000 You're fucking yourself out of some potential healing. 0.97
01:56:10.000 Yeah, but it's tough. 0.99
01:56:12.000 I tweaked my back a number of years ago.
01:56:14.000 I used to compete in powerlifting.
01:56:15.000 And one time, I did something wrong.
01:56:18.000 My SI joint got tweaked, and I couldn't stand up.
01:56:21.000 I was totally bent over, sideways, twisted up.
01:56:24.000 And so taking some ibuprofen then can relax the muscles a little bit.
01:56:27.000 It brings the inflammation down.
01:56:29.000 But you use it in an acute fashion.
01:56:31.000 You use it for a day or two for a specific problem instead of what folks do, which is basically staying on it continuously. 0.99
01:56:39.000 So those people are fucking themselves. 0.99
01:56:41.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:56:41.000 You're poisoning yourself. 1.00
01:56:42.000 Yeah.
01:56:43.000 What about for athletes?
01:56:44.000 Is there a negative effect of it that is shown in camps?
01:56:48.000 There's problems with increased tendon ruptures because the tendons don't heal.
01:56:55.000 It decreases cardiac output.
01:56:56.000 So there's a lot of reasons for not using it.
01:56:59.000 And for just taking some fish oil, getting your vitamin D levels up by either being out in the sun or supplementing with vitamin D. Smart training, periodizing your training a little bit, stuff like that.
01:57:10.000 I've never heard that ibuprofen was so bad.
01:57:13.000 That's so important.
01:57:14.000 That's such important information.
01:57:16.000 I had always felt like it can't be good, but I had no idea it was that bad for you.
01:57:22.000 It's very powerful for an acute injury.
01:57:25.000 So you tweak your back, you roll an ankle or something, and it really suppresses inflammation very powerfully.
01:57:30.000 So use it then and use it then only.
01:57:32.000 Yeah, use it, you know, like one dose to try to knock inflammation down.
01:57:36.000 Yeah, so when people, you know, when people say, oh, I have a headache, give me those things, they just pop them all the time.
01:57:40.000 It's a horrible idea.
01:57:41.000 Okay, very important.
01:57:42.000 I have a lot of friends who could benefit from that information.
01:57:44.000 Yeah.
01:57:45.000 What should you take when you have inflammation?
01:57:47.000 Is there any sort of dietary remedy or is there anything that you could replace ibuprofen with that's a good anti-inflammatory that's actually beneficial or healthy?
01:57:58.000 Yeah.
01:57:58.000 Fish oil and vitamin D, just keeping those levels up.
01:58:01.000 Fish oil really does work.
01:58:03.000 For folks who don't know, if you've ever had joint pain, in jujitsu a lot of guys get elbow pain.
01:58:08.000 You're always fighting off arm bars and camoras and stuff and your joints get tweaked a lot. 0.95
01:58:13.000 Fish oil makes a fucking tremendous difference. 0.75
01:58:16.000 A real difference between me walking around in no pain or me walking around like, what's that? 0.97
01:58:22.000 You really feel a difference.
01:58:23.000 It sounds crazy that you're actually lubing your joints.
01:58:26.000 Right.
01:58:26.000 But that really is what's going on.
01:58:28.000 Yeah.
01:58:28.000 And you get a lot of mileage out of fish oil.
01:58:31.000 Vitamin D is really, really important.
01:58:33.000 How much fish oil should you take a day?
01:58:35.000 Two to four grams, which isn't a ton.
01:58:37.000 Two to four grams.
01:58:39.000 So when you have a milligram, you should take 10 of those?
01:58:42.000 Or 100 milligrams?
01:58:43.000 1,000 milligrams is a gram.
01:58:45.000 Right.
01:58:45.000 So 10. That's what I take.
01:58:47.000 I take 10 a day.
01:58:48.000 10 of the 100 milligrams.
01:58:51.000 Oh, really?
01:58:52.000 Okay, so they must be really small.
01:58:53.000 Okay, yeah.
01:58:54.000 So that's going to be like one...
01:58:55.000 That's one gram.
01:58:56.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:58:57.000 You take two grams?
01:58:58.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:58:58.000 Wow, you're an animal. 0.98
01:59:01.000 How many capsules is that? 0.98
01:59:02.000 I bet yours are a thousand milligrams.
01:59:05.000 I bet they're a one gram capsule.
01:59:06.000 So if they are, then it's how many for a...
01:59:08.000 Two to four of those is plenty.
01:59:10.000 But for a thousand milligrams, how many...
01:59:13.000 It's one gram.
01:59:13.000 Oh, it is one gram.
01:59:14.000 Yeah.
01:59:14.000 Oh.
01:59:15.000 Yeah.
01:59:15.000 Well, I'm going off, dude, because I'm taking ten of those.
01:59:18.000 You travel a lot and stuff.
01:59:19.000 You're probably fine.
01:59:20.000 So it's probably good?
01:59:20.000 Yeah.
01:59:21.000 It makes a difference, man. 0.67
01:59:22.000 When I don't do it, it sounds ridiculous.
01:59:23.000 I take five in the morning and five at night.
01:59:25.000 But when I don't do it, I feel a difference.
01:59:26.000 You take it with food though, right?
01:59:27.000 Always.
01:59:28.000 Yeah.
01:59:28.000 Cool.
01:59:29.000 Something that I do that I just incorporated because someone told me that you said this.
01:59:33.000 I don't even know if you really said this.
01:59:34.000 But I have a kale shake every morning and I start incorporating some fat into it.
01:59:38.000 Oh, yeah.
01:59:39.000 Yeah.
01:59:39.000 To absorb the vitamins better.
01:59:41.000 Is that what it is?
01:59:41.000 Yeah.
01:59:41.000 Yeah.
01:59:42.000 I use coconut oil.
01:59:43.000 Is that good?
01:59:44.000 That's great.
01:59:44.000 I'm still not a fan of shakes usually.
01:59:46.000 It tastes like dog shit, but I eat them, man. 0.99
01:59:49.000 Have some bacon and eggs. 1.00
01:59:51.000 Nope.
01:59:53.000 Bacon and eggs are just as good?
01:59:54.000 You like kale shakes?
01:59:55.000 I do.
01:59:56.000 I like the way it makes me feel, man.
01:59:58.000 It's one thing when I blend kale and cucumber and I use a big chunk of ginger and four or five cloves of garlic.
02:00:08.000 I've been going with five lately.
02:00:10.000 And then pineapples, the new fruit.
02:00:12.000 I used to use pears.
02:00:13.000 And then the coconut oil.
02:00:15.000 It feels so ridiculously nutritious.
02:00:19.000 Like right when I eat it, my body's like, whoa!
02:00:20.000 First of all, the garlic and the ginger alone just makes your whole body go, whoa! 0.99
02:00:25.000 It's like sends a message like, holy shit, we're delivering some fucking goods. 0.99
02:00:28.000 All exits open. 0.99
02:00:30.000 I tried to make it, Joe.
02:00:31.000 I couldn't do it. 1.00
02:00:32.000 Hey, you're not as good a man when it comes to eating terrible, disgusting shit. 1.00
02:00:36.000 Yeah, I hate ginger. 1.00
02:00:37.000 It was just too thick. 0.95
02:00:39.000 Dude, your poop, though? 0.94
02:00:40.000 Oh, my God. 0.79
02:00:41.000 I've never enjoyed pooping more in my life.
02:00:45.000 It becomes an event.
02:00:46.000 It would be epic.
02:00:47.000 You would be like a goose yourself at that point.
02:00:49.000 It becomes an event.
02:00:50.000 Yeah.
02:00:50.000 Because I eat normal at night, but that's how I start off every day.
02:00:53.000 Whee! 1.00
02:00:55.000 I started doing this because of Kevin James.
02:00:57.000 Kevin James did this movie called Here Comes the Boom where he plays an MMA fighter.
02:01:01.000 It comes out in October and he lost 80 pounds for this movie.
02:01:04.000 And the way he lost it was by...
02:01:06.000 He went on a totally vegan diet.
02:01:08.000 The first thing he did every day...
02:01:10.000 But he had a chef prepare him food all day long while he was in training for this movie.
02:01:15.000 So he didn't have to make any choices.
02:01:17.000 It was all in front of him.
02:01:18.000 This is what you're going to eat for dinner.
02:01:19.000 Here's your snack.
02:01:21.000 Everything is...
02:01:22.000 Food was just falling off him.
02:01:24.000 But the beginning of every day is a kale shake.
02:01:26.000 And he's like, you've got to just choke it down.
02:01:28.000 The benefits of it that are spectacular.
02:01:30.000 You don't agree with that?
02:01:31.000 I would go more for bacon and eggs and a double espresso.
02:01:35.000 Why is that?
02:01:35.000 It sounds awesome.
02:01:36.000 I love this guy.
02:01:37.000 I'm changing everything.
02:01:38.000 I'm going back.
02:01:39.000 You know, that whack of protein just releases a bunch of dopamine in the brain.
02:01:43.000 You're happy.
02:01:44.000 You're centered.
02:01:44.000 You're focused.
02:01:46.000 The caffeine releases dopamine.
02:01:49.000 So, like, bacon and coffee...
02:01:50.000 When you feel in love...
02:01:51.000 Bacon and eggs and coffee is good.
02:01:53.000 When you feel love, like you look at...
02:01:55.000 Tell you, Joe.
02:01:55.000 I've been doing it for the longest time.
02:01:56.000 You look into your wife's eyes and you feel love.
02:01:58.000 You're feeling dopamine.
02:01:59.000 Right.
02:02:00.000 And so, like, bacon and coffee release dopamine.
02:02:02.000 So, bacon and coffee are love.
02:02:04.000 Whoa.
02:02:05.000 Yeah.
02:02:05.000 That's incredible.
02:02:06.000 Bacon and coffee are love.
02:02:08.000 It totally makes sense why they're so delicious.
02:02:10.000 There's an emotional connection to them, as with chocolate, right?
02:02:13.000 Right.
02:02:13.000 There's an emotional connection to the foods as well.
02:02:16.000 Bacon and coffee are love.
02:02:18.000 Try one month of bacon, eggs, and coffee, and then try one month of kale shake and let me know which one you like better.
02:02:25.000 But doesn't the kale shake, isn't the nutrients really important?
02:02:29.000 The nutrients you get from kale shakes, they make me feel great. 0.96
02:02:33.000 I fucking love it. 0.98
02:02:35.000 I'm going to keep eating it for the poop alone. 0.99
02:02:37.000 Give it a whirl.
02:02:38.000 Give it a shot.
02:02:39.000 Try it out for one month.
02:02:40.000 But I mean, you don't need all those vitamins in the kale.
02:02:43.000 You don't need all those vitamins in the celery and the cucumber and the garlic.
02:02:46.000 That's all great, but I mean, you could get that with a salad later.
02:02:51.000 Just as good?
02:02:52.000 Yeah.
02:02:53.000 Really?
02:02:54.000 Just throw some salad, you know, olive oil on it?
02:02:57.000 And eating this giant bundle of vegetables ground down to, like, a liquid.
02:03:01.000 Right.
02:03:02.000 I'm not, like, benefiting myself and having all those extra nutrients?
02:03:05.000 You...
02:03:07.000 So the fact that you put coconut oil in there is good because a lot of people make all that stuff low fat and a lot of the phytochemicals, a lot of the antioxidants only dissolve in fat.
02:03:17.000 So when you put that, it's kind of like doing an extract.
02:03:19.000 So just a regular salad is not good enough.
02:03:21.000 You have to have a good ranch dressing or something.
02:03:24.000 Or olive oil or something, yeah.
02:03:25.000 But not with blue cheese.
02:03:26.000 Ranch dressing.
02:03:27.000 Not with wings.
02:03:29.000 That absorbs more nutrients out of the wings.
02:03:32.000 So you really do need some fat in your dressing if you want to absorb all the nutrients of your salad.
02:03:38.000 That's amazing.
02:03:39.000 Because people always say, I want the low-fat, low-fat this and low-fat that.
02:03:43.000 They're not getting nutrients that way.
02:03:44.000 And all the nutrients are just shooshing in and out.
02:03:46.000 And before I had to take a leak, you asked me about minerals and stuff like that.
02:03:49.000 It's a bunch of the things that you would normally be able to get out of food.
02:03:55.000 It's enhanced the way you absorb it if you have some fat with it.
02:03:59.000 That's amazing. 0.99
02:04:00.000 So when people just eat a regular salad, just straight lettuce and greens, you're really fucking yourself. 0.99
02:04:05.000 You really should have something. 0.98
02:04:06.000 You should have something with it.
02:04:08.000 You either eat some meat with it.
02:04:09.000 Almond butter, some meat, chicken, something fatty.
02:04:11.000 You need something fat.
02:04:12.000 So if you're vegan, then you would throw some almond butter in it.
02:04:15.000 You'd have some coconut oil in it or something like that.
02:04:17.000 And if you just eat vitamins on their own, it's useless.
02:04:21.000 Vitamins on an empty stomach doesn't really work.
02:04:23.000 You don't absorb them as well?
02:04:25.000 What percentage do you think you would absorb?
02:04:26.000 Oh, God.
02:04:28.000 You know, I mean, your pee still turns fluorescent.
02:04:31.000 So, I mean, you're still absorbing it with that regard.
02:04:34.000 But the vitamins definitely work synergistically with a lot of the products and food.
02:04:38.000 So, I think it's smarter to just take it with that.
02:04:40.000 So, you get some sort of an effect if you take it on an empty stomach, but a very minimalized...
02:04:45.000 Yeah, and, you know, much less effective.
02:04:46.000 Stomach upset would be one possibility.
02:04:49.000 Yeah, hard pills, especially, like compact and multivitamins or something like that.
02:04:54.000 Yeah, you might be passing a nugget.
02:04:56.000 Would nuts and salad be better than, say, ranch dressing, full-on ranch dressing, you know?
02:05:01.000 Ranch dressing is delicious, especially with bacon bits. 0.99
02:05:04.000 Yeah, well, this motherfucker's trying to lose weight, though. 0.99
02:05:06.000 He doesn't want that ranch dressing. 1.00
02:05:08.000 What should he do to lose weight?
02:05:09.000 I mean, nuts, though.
02:05:10.000 Aren't nuts high in fat?
02:05:11.000 Mm-hmm.
02:05:12.000 Supposed to be, yeah.
02:05:12.000 That'd be a good option.
02:05:13.000 Raw nuts especially, right?
02:05:15.000 Yeah, because you tend not to overeat them.
02:05:17.000 It's that palatability thing again.
02:05:19.000 So if you roast them and salt them, they taste better and you can eat more.
02:05:22.000 That's right.
02:05:22.000 You go off.
02:05:23.000 Yeah.
02:05:23.000 That's true.
02:05:24.000 I don't eat raw almonds nearly as much as those ones when they're smoky.
02:05:28.000 Yeah.
02:05:29.000 Those smoky almonds. 0.99
02:05:30.000 I don't know what that smoky shit is. 0.99
02:05:32.000 It's yum. 1.00
02:05:33.000 It's smoky yum.
02:05:34.000 It can't be good for you.
02:05:37.000 So, there's no need for kale shakes.
02:05:39.000 Is this what you're telling me?
02:05:40.000 Because I've been living off this for months.
02:05:42.000 I mean, if you like it, definitely go for it.
02:05:45.000 But, you know, I think some of the mixed green, you know, foods can be kind of cool.
02:05:52.000 Some dude just walked in.
02:05:54.000 Why don't you lock the door, son? 1.00
02:05:56.000 Shit's ridiculous. 1.00
02:05:59.000 Somebody just walked in. 1.00
02:06:00.000 We have a non-secure studio.
02:06:02.000 Oops.
02:06:03.000 Normally, always secure.
02:06:05.000 So, you don't need all those nutrients, and how much vegetable nutrients do you need in a day?
02:06:11.000 If you're going to eat bacon and eggs for breakfast...
02:06:14.000 Here's the deal.
02:06:15.000 Bacon and eggs for breakfast, because people usually whine about, I don't have time, I need to get stuff done quickly.
02:06:21.000 I call it the meat and nuts breakfast, where it's basically some eggs, some bacon, some turkey with some almonds or something like that.
02:06:30.000 It's quick.
02:06:31.000 It's easy.
02:06:32.000 You get a dose of dopamine.
02:06:34.000 You get your hormones balanced, going right out of the gate.
02:06:37.000 If somebody's a hard-charging athlete, they're probably going to need to throw some carbs in it. 0.98
02:06:41.000 I'm just saying general.
02:06:42.000 So if you're going to work out later in the day, you might want to start with like some fruit or like some yams or some sweet potatoes or something like that with this.
02:06:49.000 But that first meal, if you make it mainly protein and fat, you have good rock solid energy level.
02:06:55.000 I usually train at noon, like if I'm able to get into Jits at noon, then I eat at either one or two.
02:07:01.000 And so I'll eat lunch then.
02:07:02.000 So I usually do like that protein.
02:07:03.000 So what do you do for breakfast?
02:07:05.000 Breakfast is usually bacon and eggs or something like that.
02:07:07.000 Bacon and eggs and then you go train?
02:07:08.000 A couple hours later, four hours later, I train.
02:07:11.000 With carbs?
02:07:12.000 With bacon and eggs?
02:07:12.000 Post-workout, I eat like a giant sweet potato, like mega sweet potato with some protein.
02:07:19.000 And I've got some veggies.
02:07:20.000 And then my dinner...
02:07:21.000 Is a little bit of protein with a metric ton of veggies and then some fat.
02:07:27.000 So I'm doing a boatload of cooked veggies or a salad or something.
02:07:32.000 So I'm getting all the veggies at the end of the day with a bunch of fat.
02:07:35.000 I'm streamlining my breakfast, but I'm getting enough protein in the morning so that my energy level is good, my blood sugar is good, and all that stuff.
02:07:42.000 And then I'm recovering from training by doing some post-workout carbs.
02:07:46.000 And say, like, when I start doing jits, because I'm old now and just beat down and everything, I'm not really doing much else.
02:07:52.000 I might lift weights a little bit or do a little gymnastics, but I'm not really needing a lot of glycogen repletion between workouts.
02:07:58.000 But if you had somebody that was doing multiple sessions a day, then you just start doing more carb repletion feeds.
02:08:05.000 So, you know, breakfast would be protein and yams and sweet potatoes and fruit.
02:08:09.000 So, you throw down the carbs based on kind of what glycogen you're burning in your workouts.
02:08:16.000 I've never heard anybody advocate bacon and eggs for breakfast with coffee.
02:08:20.000 Sounds like a heaven.
02:08:22.000 It seems too good to be true, man.
02:08:23.000 What about potatoes?
02:08:24.000 Are they good, bad?
02:08:25.000 Great post-workout.
02:08:27.000 Phenomenal post-workout because you're deputed of sugar.
02:08:29.000 The carbohydrate density.
02:08:31.000 But not good just as a meal.
02:08:34.000 Not good like you're eating dinner with a steak and potatoes.
02:08:38.000 The potato's not good.
02:08:39.000 What is wrong with potato as opposed to sweet potato?
02:08:42.000 Is it fiber?
02:08:45.000 Less nutrients, but again, it's a little bit specific to the person.
02:08:50.000 Somebody like you that's lean and athletic and doing a lot of activity.
02:08:53.000 Then for dinner, a piece of meat with a baked potato or a sweet potato, that's fine because you've got the activity level where you need that level of carb intake.
02:09:02.000 Somebody that's trying to lose some weight and they maybe have some insulin dysregulation, like their blood sugars go high and low, their insulin goes high and low, they would probably be better off not having that.
02:09:12.000 Folks want to paint like a kind of a one-size-fits-all picture, but it's very specific.
02:09:17.000 It's like, are we talking about a metabolically broken type 2 diabetic?
02:09:20.000 Are we talking about an athlete?
02:09:22.000 Are we talking about just kind of a recreationally active stay-at-home mom?
02:09:27.000 So it's really important to consider who are we talking about?
02:09:30.000 What are their goals?
02:09:31.000 What are they working towards?
02:09:33.000 And that will steer the boat both with regards to their training and also their nutrition.
02:09:37.000 Yeah, I've always felt that with athletics that there's a reason why when you have a heavy weightlifting workout you crave meat.
02:09:45.000 I mean, it's a very distinct craving. 0.99
02:09:47.000 If you're a meat eater, if you're the type of person who eats meat, when you work out right away, like right when it's over, you want a fucking steak, you want a burger, your body is saying, give me some meat, bitch. 1.00
02:09:58.000 Right, right. 0.97
02:09:59.000 It's probably an instinct that, I mean, your muscles in your body are probably sending a message, right?
02:10:06.000 Yeah, and it's a great way to stabilize your blood sugar.
02:10:10.000 You eat some protein, and that is going to be a slow-release glucose into your system because your body can convert the amino acids into glucose.
02:10:18.000 Kind of the ideal thing is a pretty good whack of protein with a little bit of carbs.
02:10:21.000 It just keeps things nice.
02:10:23.000 Should you not drink water while you eat?
02:10:26.000 You know, it's not a bad idea, and it's a little bit lunatic fringe, but you dilute the digestive enzymes a little bit, and I think that you probably have better digestion without liquids during the meal.
02:10:39.000 And part of it, too, you notice when people drink liquid with their meal, they just kind of gum their food once or twice, and then they take some water and shoot it down, and their eyes bulge because it's like a python swallowing a swamp rat or something.
02:10:52.000 It is true.
02:10:53.000 People chew less.
02:10:53.000 We're so lazy.
02:10:54.000 We'd rather drink... 1.00
02:10:56.000 To shoo shit down. 1.00
02:10:58.000 People are so fucking stupid. 1.00
02:11:02.000 So it's better to not have water with it and to chew your food up really well. 1.00
02:11:07.000 Totally.
02:11:08.000 When you wake up, Mike Dolce says you wake up, you should have eight ounces of water before you do anything.
02:11:12.000 I think that's smart.
02:11:13.000 Start the process.
02:11:14.000 Even more than that.
02:11:16.000 How much water do you drink a day?
02:11:18.000 I don't know.
02:11:18.000 You know, when I get up, I usually do almost a quart of water.
02:11:21.000 I actually heat it.
02:11:22.000 A quart of water?
02:11:23.000 Yeah, and I do maybe half of it, you know, in a pretty good shot.
02:11:26.000 You heat it?
02:11:27.000 Yeah, because that stimulates, like, the digestive stuff.
02:11:31.000 So I'll do that.
02:11:32.000 How hot?
02:11:33.000 Not super hot.
02:11:34.000 I mean, it's just warm.
02:11:35.000 So it's not like, you know, frozen cold because I'm getting it out of the filter out of the fridge.
02:11:40.000 I'll pop it in the microwave and heat it up just a little bit, you know, so it's like room temperature or something.
02:11:44.000 So I'll do half of that.
02:11:46.000 Like immediately, I'll go sit down on the computer, start checking email.
02:11:49.000 I've got a stovetop espresso maker where I've got coffee that starts brewing.
02:11:53.000 I've got a timer for that.
02:11:55.000 That's six minutes.
02:11:55.000 Usually I finish the water within like six to ten minutes.
02:11:58.000 And then I throw my bacon on my grill, which I grill at really low temperature, long time, like 200 degrees, slow grilled.
02:12:06.000 You slow grill bacon?
02:12:07.000 Yeah.
02:12:07.000 Why do you do that?
02:12:08.000 Amazing.
02:12:09.000 It is amazing.
02:12:11.000 You're baking every day.
02:12:13.000 Not every day, but I mean a lot of days.
02:12:14.000 But, you know, I'll go through a tear where I have bacon a lot, and then I won't have it for two months, three months.
02:12:20.000 Like, I'll just be like, I'm over it, and I'm done.
02:12:23.000 So you slow grill it over a regular grill?
02:12:26.000 It's an electric grill, non-stick deal.
02:12:29.000 I just put it on 200 and it slow grills for two hours and it just makes it so amazing.
02:12:35.000 Two hour bacon?
02:12:37.000 That's like a fetish type thing.
02:12:38.000 That's awesome.
02:12:39.000 That sounds like heaven.
02:12:41.000 It's like burning incense.
02:12:42.000 It's bacon incense.
02:12:43.000 You're completely blowing my mind in so many ways on this show.
02:12:47.000 I just had blood work done for life insurance.
02:12:51.000 I'm 40 years old.
02:12:52.000 New York Life did the full deal, crawled up my hoo-ha, all the blood work and everything.
02:12:57.000 And I have the...
02:12:59.000 Blood work parameters, the bio parameters of somebody who's 28 years old.
02:13:03.000 So, like, they gave me the perfect, you know, health score.
02:13:07.000 They've never had a 40-year-old male with as good of biomarkers as I have.
02:13:11.000 That's incredible.
02:13:11.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:13:12.000 And I was talking to their underwriter about the whole paleo thing, and I'm like, because the one thing they ding me on, I'm 5'9", 175 pounds, and so according to their charts, I was overweight.
02:13:23.000 And I was like, well, I lift weights, and I'm reasonably lean, and I shot on pictures and everything.
02:13:26.000 The guy's like, okay, that's cool.
02:13:27.000 Yeah.
02:13:28.000 That's hilarious. 1.00
02:13:29.000 That's such a stupid way of finding out if someone's overweight. 1.00
02:13:32.000 The BMI. Yeah. 1.00
02:13:33.000 So stupid. 1.00
02:13:34.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:13:34.000 It's like it's just saying, nah, there's no variables. 1.00
02:13:38.000 Right. 0.98
02:13:38.000 It's ridiculous. 0.98
02:13:40.000 Being 180 pounds and 5'9 is equal whether you lift weights or whether you are overweight. 0.98
02:13:46.000 Eat Twinkies. 0.98
02:13:47.000 It's such a silly thing.
02:13:49.000 People look at that and like, you need to go and get your body fat tested.
02:13:53.000 You need to get your body mass indicator needs to be done.
02:13:57.000 Do you think soaking or the electrical one when you stand on it?
02:14:00.000 What's the best one to figure out?
02:14:02.000 The immersion tank is really the only way to go.
02:14:05.000 That's the best way to go?
02:14:06.000 The other stuff is so highly variable.
02:14:09.000 Most of it is geared towards overweight people, so if you have an athletic population using it, it's not even on the same planet.
02:14:16.000 It's not even close.
02:14:18.000 Yeah, I've heard that the one that tests you, if you stand on it, if it gets your body fat, if you're dehydrated, it registers that as more fat.
02:14:28.000 Right.
02:14:28.000 Because it's more resistance for the electricity to pass through your system.
02:14:31.000 Yeah.
02:14:31.000 Fascinating.
02:14:32.000 I probably run like 8% to 10% body fat, reasonably lean, not like ridiculously lean, but reasonably lean.
02:14:38.000 And there was some sort of a health fair going on, and I jumped on one of these scales, and it put me at 32% body fat.
02:14:44.000 Whoa! 0.71
02:14:44.000 And you could imagine that maybe it's like, okay, maybe it's 12 or maybe even 15, which would be almost 50% off, but it was like, okay, yeah, there's something seriously broken there. 0.71
02:14:53.000 What is your normal body fat?
02:14:55.000 I think like 7 to 10, 8 to 10, something like that.
02:14:58.000 You like to stay at that?
02:14:59.000 Reasonably lean, yeah.
02:15:00.000 If you get leaner than that, then I notice my performance tanks.
02:15:03.000 So you would like to be kind of rag pit, fight club lean, but then you can't actually fight. 0.79
02:15:09.000 Yeah, isn't that funny?
02:15:10.000 Yeah.
02:15:11.000 Well, dudes that are really super lean when you see them competing in MMA that have cut an incredible amount of weight, how much of an impact does that have?
02:15:17.000 Just the fact that even when they rehydrate, they have to fight so lean.
02:15:20.000 Yeah, I don't know.
02:15:21.000 Depending on the individual?
02:15:22.000 Some people run lean and still have some good performance, but wired into our brain, wired into our genetics is a really tightly controlled mechanism to know how much body fat we have.
02:15:35.000 Usually we want some, not too much, because you start getting unhealthy with too much.
02:15:39.000 But if you start getting really, really lean, your body registers that as a stress because you don't have much survival reserve.
02:15:45.000 Like if there was a starvation scenario, then, you know, your body starts getting anxious about that and it'll elevate cortisol.
02:15:51.000 It'll suppress your work output because it doesn't want you to be too lean.
02:15:56.000 Dude, you're making people so happy today.
02:15:58.000 Do you understand what you're doing here?
02:16:00.000 You're saying bacon and eggs in the morning is good.
02:16:03.000 You're saying coffee is good.
02:16:05.000 You're saying you need some fat?
02:16:08.000 You're saying a couple of drinks is okay?
02:16:11.000 Tactical bacon?
02:16:13.000 It lasts for 10 years.
02:16:15.000 It has 18 servings.
02:16:17.000 Oh, that can't be good, Brian.
02:16:19.000 You want to get real bacon, son.
02:16:20.000 You listening to what he said about preservatives? 1.00
02:16:22.000 That's some shit if you're dying. 1.00
02:16:24.000 You're in a fucking bunker. 1.00
02:16:25.000 No, if you're That's not tactical. 1.00
02:16:28.000 Camping is not tactical. 1.00
02:16:30.000 There's a fucking AK-47 on the trunk. 0.99
02:16:32.000 It shows you what that is. 0.99
02:16:34.000 That box is designed for when the end of the world comes.
02:16:37.000 You need bacon.
02:16:38.000 The doomsay bunker. 1.00
02:16:39.000 Don't eat the shit that's only going to be here at the end of the world, okay? 1.00
02:16:42.000 I would say get some real bacon, you silly bitch. 1.00
02:16:44.000 So what I need to do is start my own farm and cook my own bacon slow for two hours. 1.00
02:16:50.000 That's a...
02:16:51.000 That's how you started off?
02:16:52.000 Yeah, dude.
02:16:52.000 That's the route to a happy life.
02:16:54.000 When do you start the bacon?
02:16:57.000 We have a three-month-old kid now, daughter.
02:17:02.000 I take the early morning shift, so I grab her from my wife about 5.30 or 6, play with her, get the bacon going, do all that stuff.
02:17:10.000 So I'm up then.
02:17:12.000 Yeah.
02:17:12.000 It's a fetish thing.
02:17:14.000 Two-hour bacon is a bit fetish.
02:17:15.000 You know, I'm cooking it ahead of time because my wife gets up around 8. And so I'm cooking it.
02:17:20.000 And then about the time she starts getting up, then I get some eggs going.
02:17:24.000 My coffee's already been done.
02:17:25.000 I make her some coffee.
02:17:27.000 How did you know that this is a good move to have it slow cook for two hours?
02:17:32.000 So my buddy, Matt Lalonde, who's a Harvard PhD chemist, we call him the Kraken.
02:17:38.000 He's like, unleash the Kraken!
02:17:40.000 He's just a wickedly smart dude.
02:17:42.000 But he did all this research and he's like, slow cooking meat is the only way that you should do it. 1.00
02:17:47.000 You're a moron if you do anything else. 1.00
02:17:49.000 Really? 1.00
02:17:50.000 Yeah.
02:17:50.000 That's crazy because I cook steaks quick.
02:17:53.000 Yeah.
02:17:54.000 They're so good, too.
02:17:55.000 They're super good.
02:17:56.000 And I mean, the grilling deal is, you know, there's a big argument for it.
02:17:59.000 How do you get like a sear?
02:17:59.000 How do you get like that outer crispy brown?
02:18:01.000 You don't, but you think about someone like the pit barbecue and stuff, which is slow-cooked.
02:18:06.000 It's amazing.
02:18:07.000 So, I mean, there's some trade-offs.
02:18:09.000 I like that, too, but I also like a medium-rare steak that's done correctly.
02:18:14.000 I guess the Argentinian method of cooking steaks is a low and slow cooking method.
02:18:19.000 Right.
02:18:20.000 They have a love of steak as well.
02:18:23.000 Right.
02:18:23.000 And really good meat.
02:18:24.000 It's all grass fed.
02:18:25.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:18:26.000 Well, that's how most of the fucking world is. 0.99
02:18:28.000 I love that Brazil just won a big lawsuit over Monsanto. 0.99
02:18:32.000 Do you know this?
02:18:32.000 No, I didn't hear about this.
02:18:33.000 I know that Monsanto was trying to push into Mexico.
02:18:36.000 Yeah, I'm sure they're going to push everywhere eventually.
02:18:39.000 But Brazil won some multi-billion dollar lawsuit.
02:18:42.000 A bunch of farmers from Brazil won against Monsanto.
02:18:45.000 It's just, we've got to figure out a way to let people grow grass and have the animals eat grass because that's the healthiest way.
02:18:53.000 I mean, it really...
02:18:56.000 Someone should be able to say, hey listen, we're being silly here.
02:19:01.000 Let's do this the way these animals are supposed to be eating. 0.59
02:19:04.000 We see what happens when we make them eat animals, when we make them eat themselves, which is the most insane thing about farming ever.
02:19:11.000 Right. 0.99
02:19:11.000 The mad cow disease, ladies and gentlemen, if you don't know, was started because they made cows eat other fucking cows. 0.99
02:19:17.000 And they just had another E. coli breakout. 0.96
02:19:20.000 And the way that this E. coli becomes problematic when you feed cattle grains, it increases the stomach acid content in the cattle.
02:19:29.000 It gives them GERD, a gastroesophageal reflux disease type deal because of the elevated acid.
02:19:34.000 And this E. coli that is normally killed by stomach acid, you selectively breed it to survive high acid environment.
02:19:41.000 So the stuff that normally our own stomach acid would kill, because we feed the cattle grains instead of grass, we actually produce like a superbug.
02:19:50.000 That then if it gets some other genetic modifications, it makes it deadly.
02:19:54.000 And it can survive going through the digestive process where normally we would kill it.
02:19:59.000 So, you know, the grain feeding of cattle is just like, it's super expensive, it's dirty, it's subsidized.
02:20:08.000 But there is a benefit of packing on more fat on the animal, which makes it a little bit more juicy when you cook it.
02:20:14.000 Yeah, I mean, it's interesting though, like if you find folks, like we spent a bunch of time in Nicaragua and stuff, and the folks from there, you get used to eating the meat that's grass-fed, and it's definitely leaner, but it's very, very flavorful and it's different.
02:20:30.000 It's more gamey almost.
02:20:31.000 It's almost a little more gamey, yeah.
02:20:34.000 People have that association with gaming.
02:20:36.000 I think vibrant.
02:20:38.000 That's when I say gaming.
02:20:40.000 Whereas I mean funky.
02:20:41.000 Grass-fed meat tastes more like butter.
02:20:43.000 It's got a buttery consistency to it.
02:20:46.000 Grass-fed beef is really delicious.
02:20:49.000 Grain-fed beef is a little bit more...
02:20:51.000 Well, they're sick.
02:20:52.000 That's really what it is. 0.67
02:20:53.000 You're eating a sick animal.
02:20:54.000 That's why I don't like Kobe.
02:20:57.000 Scary stuff.
02:20:59.000 The one in Food Inc. 0.99
02:21:00.000 when they had the hole in the animal's side because it was like fucking stomach acids were rotting. 0.97
02:21:07.000 Yeah, when you feed cattle grains, it's a race against time to get them fat enough to take them to market before they die from all the gastrointestinal problems. 0.92
02:21:16.000 Here's an interesting thing.
02:21:17.000 There's a guy, Dr. Michael Eads, who's kind of a long-time low-carb guy, but he's kind of a paleo guy too.
02:21:23.000 Really interesting dude.
02:21:25.000 But he was doing some research on just diets and different things.
02:21:31.000 He's from Arkansas, so he went to a feedlot, a feed store, and he asked the guy, hey, what do you feed animals to get them fat?
02:21:39.000 Horses and cattle and pigs and all that.
02:21:41.000 And they're like, well, the guy upstairs, It has this manual, and it was like a feeding manual for weight gain in animals or something.
02:21:46.000 And he opens it up, and when you looked at the ratios of protein-carbohydrate to fat, it was like identical to the food pyramid. 0.97
02:21:53.000 I mean, fucking spot on.
02:21:55.000 Whereas used to, you know, like the four food groups even, which like when you and I were kids was still more the gig, you typically ate more fat, more protein, and less carbs, just in general. 0.95
02:22:08.000 So it was really interesting, like the formula, the standardized formula in this Huge tome of a book to get animals fat for sale was identical to the food ratios recommended by the ADA. Wow.
02:22:23.000 It's a fattening diet because of the carbohydrate content, because of the allowance for refined sugars and stuff like that.
02:22:29.000 And you said this all started being implemented in the 1970s, the recommendation for grains.
02:22:34.000 Yeah.
02:22:34.000 Yeah, you know, prior to like the late 60s, early 70s, whenever you went to a doctor and you were overweight, you were recommended, you were prescribed a low-carb diet.
02:22:43.000 For like a hundred years, that was the norm.
02:22:46.000 And this is, Gary Taubes wrote a really interesting book, Good Calories, Bad Calories.
02:22:50.000 It's huge.
02:22:51.000 Like you can only read it like a page at a time.
02:22:53.000 It's like reading biblical text.
02:22:55.000 It's super thick.
02:22:56.000 But for a hundred years, It was just understood that if you were overweight, you cut out beer, potatoes, pasta, rice, eat protein and fat and green vegetables, and you lost weight.
02:23:10.000 And it was just woven into You know, all of medicine.
02:23:15.000 And then around the 1950s, we had this idea that heart disease was caused by fat consumption, which had never been borne out by the science.
02:23:25.000 It was, interestingly, a vegetarian on a political committee That kind of put this thing forward and ended up enacting a bunch of the laws that push this stuff forward.
02:23:35.000 And we've spent billions of dollars trying to prove that saturated fat causes cardiovascular disease.
02:23:39.000 They had the Framingham Heart Study, which was 30,000 nurses or something like that, tracked over like 30 years.
02:23:45.000 And the nurses that ate the most fat, the most saturated fat, ate the most calories, were the leanest, had the highest energy levels, and tended to be the longest lived. 1.00
02:23:55.000 And so, I mean, it's totally the Emperor's New Clothes type thing.
02:23:59.000 Like, everything we've been told is just fucking wrong. 0.60
02:24:02.000 Like, and not Petit Mall wrong, like Grand Mall wrong. 0.99
02:24:04.000 It's horrible.
02:24:05.000 What about salt causing problems?
02:24:07.000 A lot of things in biology have what's called a U-shaped curve.
02:24:11.000 So like if you have too low of intake, you have a high rate of disease.
02:24:15.000 As the intake increases, disease drops to a low point.
02:24:19.000 And then above a certain point, disease starts going up.
02:24:22.000 And there's so many nutrients and biological processes.
02:24:26.000 Exercise is a good one.
02:24:27.000 You don't have any exercise, you're likely to die from a host of problems.
02:24:30.000 You have a good amount of exercise, your likelihood of being healthy and dying decreases.
02:24:34.000 Too much exercise and you're like the diet that dies during an ultramarathon.
02:24:39.000 So salt is exactly the same.
02:24:41.000 Like we should have some salt and it's actually, it's like three to five grams a day.
02:24:46.000 It's a reasonably high level that hits that really low ebb of decreasing.
02:24:52.000 Yeah, being beneficial.
02:24:54.000 There are some people that respond very negatively to chloride, which salt is sodium chloride, and they respond very negatively to it.
02:25:01.000 They retain water.
02:25:02.000 It jacks up their blood pressure.
02:25:04.000 So there are some people that they need to be pretty low salt.
02:25:06.000 Otherwise, they're going to have cardiovascular problems.
02:25:09.000 So does it cause hypertension in people if they overdose in it, or is that a misnomer?
02:25:13.000 It can, but interestingly, when you consume carbohydrate and your insulin levels go up, when insulin goes up, another hormone called aldosterone goes up, and aldosterone causes your body to retain salt.
02:25:25.000 And when you retain salt, you retain water.
02:25:28.000 So it's actually an indirect way that sodium elevates blood pressure.
02:25:33.000 But if your insulin levels are high, say you're eating a high-carb diet, you know, like grain-based, you know, ADA-recommended diet, and you cut your salt back, you may still have very high blood pressure because of the insulin problem, not necessarily the salt problem.
02:25:45.000 Whereas you're eating a little lower carb, you could eat some salt, and it's not going to be problematic at all.
02:25:50.000 So most people don't have sodium issues.
02:25:53.000 I would say it's less an issue of sodium and more an issue of carbohydrate and also sleep, circling back around.
02:26:00.000 Only one or two nights of missed sleep, like poor sleep, can make you as insulin resistant as a type 2 diabetic.
02:26:08.000 It's a no joke deal.
02:26:09.000 It deranges insulin function immediately. 0.97
02:26:12.000 Have you ever fucked around with an isolation tank? 0.99
02:26:14.000 You know, I haven't. 0.99
02:26:15.000 I have not.
02:26:16.000 Really?
02:26:16.000 I've done a bunch of meditation, all kinds of psychedelics.
02:26:21.000 I've done all kinds of other stuff along my life.
02:26:24.000 Oh, thank you.
02:26:24.000 You're into recovery so much.
02:26:26.000 The tank would be shit. 0.99
02:26:27.000 I've never had the opportunity to mess with it. 1.00
02:26:29.000 Oh, man.
02:26:30.000 I've got to get you involved with it somehow or another and see what your results are.
02:26:34.000 Because I know you're so conscious of your rest.
02:26:38.000 And one of the most relaxing feelings ever is doing a couple hours in a tank.
02:26:42.000 Right.
02:26:42.000 The high saline deal and you just drift off.
02:26:45.000 There's 800 pounds of Epsom salts in there.
02:26:47.000 93 and a half degree temperature.
02:26:49.000 Same as your skin. 0.98
02:26:50.000 You float into it.
02:26:51.000 You feel nothing after the first 20 minutes.
02:26:54.000 Once you get over the fact that you're lying in water, you're flying through space.
02:26:57.000 You're completely weightless.
02:26:58.000 And everything sort of lengthens out.
02:27:00.000 It's so relaxing.
02:27:02.000 You'll hear things go pop!
02:27:04.000 Like your muscles will stretch out and unwind.
02:27:08.000 Because it's literally a feeling of complete weightlessness.
02:27:10.000 You're floating in the water.
02:27:11.000 It's an amazing feeling.
02:27:13.000 Somebody told me about it, but I've just never had a chance to check it out.
02:27:15.000 That's incredible.
02:27:16.000 I am still to this day amazed at how little coverage and how little exposure the isolation tank has.
02:27:23.000 To me, it's one of the most amazing tools for, first of all, just for thinking.
02:27:27.000 Because it's like meditation is one thing.
02:27:29.000 I think we've covered visualization and meditation.
02:27:31.000 Super important for anybody trying to achieve something.
02:27:34.000 But there is no alone like that tank alone.
02:27:37.000 That tank alone is you alone from your body.
02:27:41.000 It's your mind literally untethered from your physical form.
02:27:46.000 It's just thinking.
02:27:47.000 You don't see anything.
02:27:48.000 You don't hear anything.
02:27:49.000 You don't feel anything.
02:27:49.000 You just can stay put and not move.
02:27:52.000 You won't feel the fucking water. 0.99
02:27:54.000 You won't feel your body at all. 0.99
02:27:55.000 You feel you're flying through the darkness and you're completely alone with your thoughts.
02:27:59.000 But it's not disassociative because you don't lose yourself.
02:28:03.000 Exactly.
02:28:04.000 It's yourself as introspective as you ever get.
02:28:09.000 You can't escape your insecurities.
02:28:11.000 You can't escape your troubles.
02:28:13.000 You can't escape the things that you're not liking about what you do, your laziness, your lack of discipline.
02:28:17.000 You can't escape any of it.
02:28:19.000 It's you untethered from any distractions, any physical distractions, any spatial, recognizing colors, hearing sounds.
02:28:28.000 All that's gone.
02:28:29.000 There's dark blackness, no sound, no nothing.
02:28:31.000 It's an amazing environment, and it's great for relaxation.
02:28:35.000 When I come out of there, I feel recharged.
02:28:37.000 I can do two hours in the tank, and I feel like I just got up from an awesome eight-hour resting sleep.
02:28:43.000 Interesting.
02:28:44.000 Do people come unstitched sometimes?
02:28:46.000 They get a little weirded out?
02:28:48.000 People get weirded out and quit.
02:28:49.000 They just get out of the tank.
02:28:50.000 They can't handle the aloneness, the solitude, the silence.
02:28:54.000 They can't handle...
02:28:55.000 What happens to the mind, because in the absence of any sort of sensory input, the mind can develop a psychedelic state.
02:29:02.000 Right.
02:29:02.000 And so you start hallucinating and having, you know, some really, really crazy and almost like lucid dream type situations.
02:29:10.000 Some people don't like that.
02:29:11.000 Some people love it.
02:29:12.000 Some people, that's what they're looking forward to.
02:29:14.000 But just the introspective nature of it and the relaxation that you can achieve inside of it.
02:29:19.000 I would be really curious to see how you would be affected by that.
02:29:23.000 I can't believe you haven't tried that.
02:29:24.000 I would love to try it. 0.99
02:29:25.000 You're going to fucking love it. 0.99
02:29:27.000 How long are you in town for? 0.99
02:29:29.000 Sunday.
02:29:29.000 Till Sunday?
02:29:30.000 Yeah.
02:29:30.000 If I set you up at the float lab in Venice, can you make a trip down there?
02:29:34.000 Could you do that?
02:29:36.000 Tomorrow I potentially could.
02:29:37.000 You could do it?
02:29:37.000 Okay, I'll call Crash personally and set it up.
02:29:39.000 He makes the best tanks in the country.
02:29:42.000 In the world, really.
02:29:43.000 His tanks are incredible.
02:29:45.000 They look like meat lockers.
02:29:46.000 They're these giant things, and they're really wide and deep, and he uses the best possible cleaning equipment.
02:29:54.000 All the waters pass through ozone.
02:29:56.000 There's no worries ever of anything like being in the water, nothing negative. 1.00
02:30:01.000 And he always has the temperature perfect, and he's a master at this shit. 0.99
02:30:06.000 This guy is the best in the world. 0.99
02:30:09.000 in Venice.
02:30:09.000 Right on.
02:30:10.000 And he'll totally hook it up.
02:30:10.000 It's the Float Lab.
02:30:11.000 And if anybody's interested, go to floatlab.com.
02:30:13.000 You can see the photos of it. 0.95
02:30:14.000 They look like crazy fucking time portals, these things. 0.98
02:30:17.000 And they really are. 0.99
02:30:18.000 I mean, what it really is, it's like, if you could take a pill that would put you in that state where you're in this crazy darkness flying through space, relieved from all the input from your body, that would be a crazy fucking drug. 0.98
02:30:34.000 Right. 0.94
02:30:34.000 You know, you're achieving a very strange state without a crazy drug. 0.94
02:30:38.000 I really want you to do it, man.
02:30:39.000 We've got to hook it up.
02:30:40.000 Oh, I'm there.
02:30:41.000 That would be awesome.
02:30:41.000 We'll set it up.
02:30:42.000 We'll set it up for sure.
02:30:44.000 If people want to follow you, the book is called The Paleo Solution.
02:30:47.000 It is available, I'm sure, on Amazon.
02:30:50.000 Pretty much everywhere, yeah.
02:30:50.000 Pretty much everywhere, except audible.com.
02:30:52.000 Soon.
02:30:52.000 Coming soon.
02:30:53.000 You sons of bitches, Audible. 1.00
02:30:54.000 Sons of bitch. 1.00
02:30:55.000 Doug. 1.00
02:30:55.000 Are you working on a deal? 1.00
02:30:56.000 Is that what it is?
02:30:57.000 Yeah.
02:30:57.000 Yeah, we're just getting ready to basically bring a mobile recording deal to my house, and then I'll sit down and bang the thing out, and then we'll be good.
02:31:06.000 If you go to Doug.com, Brian makes money.
02:31:09.000 Nice, there we go.
02:31:10.000 He's got one of those weird deals with Amazon.
02:31:12.000 So go there.
02:31:13.000 Support.
02:31:13.000 So the Paleo Solution Diet, if anybody else, if they want to get any more information about this, what's the best way to go about it?
02:31:19.000 RobWolf.com.
02:31:20.000 RobWolf.com.
02:31:21.000 And I have everything that anybody would ever need to do this for free on the website.
02:31:25.000 So whether you want to lose weight, if you've got an autoimmune disease, if you're a high-level athlete, you don't have to buy the book.
02:31:32.000 Go to the website.
02:31:33.000 Everything's laid out there for free.
02:31:35.000 Do it, and then typically when people do it, they get great results, and then they end up buying the book.
02:31:39.000 So, yeah, and then I've got a podcast, Paleo Solution.
02:31:42.000 That's once a week.
02:31:44.000 Paleo Solution, it's available on iTunes?
02:31:45.000 iTunes, yeah, and we're typically between number one and number four in the health category.
02:31:50.000 Oh, beautiful.
02:31:50.000 We'll duke it out with Jillian Michaels and stuff, so we're doing pretty good on there.
02:31:54.000 That fucking bitch! 1.00
02:31:55.000 I heard something crazy, like someone stole Jillian Michaels' car and crashed into a tree. 1.00
02:31:59.000 Did you hear that?
02:31:59.000 Really?
02:32:00.000 They broke into her house, stole her badly. 1.00
02:32:02.000 She would probably kick their ass if she got a hold of it. 1.00
02:32:04.000 I think so. 1.00
02:32:06.000 She's hot sex. 1.00
02:32:07.000 You like that? 1.00
02:32:07.000 I think she's gay, dude. 1.00
02:32:09.000 Yeah. 0.96
02:32:09.000 I can be gay. 0.96
02:32:10.000 Yeah, I don't think. 0.77
02:32:11.000 I think she's gay for real, though. 0.91
02:32:13.000 She's so hot, it's hard to believe. 1.00
02:32:15.000 She just needs some good dick. 1.00
02:32:16.000 She just needs you, Brian. 1.00
02:32:17.000 To be convinced.
02:32:18.000 Joe, did you see some persuading?
02:32:20.000 I've met a lot of guys.
02:32:21.000 I don't understand how any girl doesn't go gay. 1.00
02:32:24.000 I think they should all go gay. 1.00
02:32:25.000 Most guys are fucking losers. 1.00
02:32:27.000 But I think a lot of these poor girls are not really gay. 1.00
02:32:29.000 They just need some good dick. 1.00
02:32:31.000 Joe, did you see the pictures I put on? 0.99
02:32:33.000 I don't mean this, folks, okay? 1.00
02:32:35.000 If you're some crazy fucking, like, really super leftist person, you want to label me sexist, I'm just talking shit, okay? 1.00
02:32:41.000 That's what this show is. 1.00
02:32:41.000 Just having fun. 1.00
02:32:42.000 Just talking shit. 1.00
02:32:43.000 I don't really think you can fuck someone straight, okay? 1.00
02:32:45.000 You feel better now? 0.99
02:32:46.000 Take all the joy out of comedy?
02:32:48.000 Don't you love the exculpatory clause you need on everything?
02:32:51.000 You have to do that, man.
02:32:51.000 It's kind of like, okay, this is a plastic bag.
02:32:53.000 Don't put it over your head.
02:32:54.000 Well, I keep talking on my...
02:32:55.000 I'm sorry, Brian.
02:32:56.000 We'll get right back to you.
02:32:57.000 But I keep talking about teen people. 1.00
02:33:00.000 All sharks can suck my dick. 1.00
02:33:01.000 We should kill them all. 1.00
02:33:02.000 We should kill anything that kills you. 1.00
02:33:03.000 I don't really mean that, you fucking dummies. 1.00
02:33:05.000 I don't really think you should go out and kill all the sharks. 1.00
02:33:07.000 But that is the reason why I don't surf. 1.00
02:33:10.000 It's because I don't want to get eaten by a fucking shark. 0.99
02:33:11.000 I know they're out there. 1.00
02:33:12.000 But I don't really think you should kill them all, you fucking idiots. 1.00
02:33:16.000 I'm going, team people, fuck the sharks, they can suck my dick. 1.00
02:33:19.000 You really think a shark can suck my dick? 1.00
02:33:20.000 You really think that's what I'm saying? 1.00
02:33:22.000 Some people lack the irony gene.
02:33:24.000 They don't have a signal for irony. 1.00
02:33:27.000 Well, not only that, some people have diarrhea of the mouth, and they can't help just saying any stupid thing that comes into their mind. 0.99
02:33:33.000 And so they put it on Twitter. 1.00
02:33:34.000 Pretty much be us.
02:33:36.000 Yeah, we just did a three-hour podcast, and I'm talking about mouth diarrhea.
02:33:39.000 Yeah.
02:33:40.000 I told people that I got a sex change on Twitter the other day and I posted a photo of my sister because she can look kind of like me.
02:33:46.000 I saw that!
02:33:47.000 And people really thought I was dressed in drag or something like that.
02:33:53.000 That is awesome. 1.00
02:33:54.000 There's a lot of fucking morons out there, man. 1.00
02:33:57.000 Do you think that that is an environmental thing? 1.00
02:34:00.000 I mean, it's definitely your area of expertise. 1.00
02:34:03.000 We've created an environment in which a complete moron can not only survive but thrive. 1.00
02:34:07.000 And they don't have to be able to get along with other people, be productive in their own life. 1.00
02:34:13.000 There's some safety net that will allow them to reproduce. 0.85
02:34:17.000 I mean, idiocracy.
02:34:19.000 Like, the first ten minutes of idiocracy is it.
02:34:21.000 How do we fix this?
02:34:24.000 You know, at some point, the sun's gonna expand out to this orbit of Mars and it's not gonna matter, so...
02:34:31.000 Is that really what it is? 0.97
02:34:32.000 We just let this fucking thing fall apart? 1.00
02:34:34.000 We just fucking write it out. 1.00
02:34:35.000 I mean, I don't know, man. 0.98
02:34:37.000 It seems like we're here, though, okay?
02:34:39.000 If you're 40, I'm 44. We're here for a certain amount of years.
02:34:43.000 We only have a certain amount of time.
02:34:45.000 There's got to be a way to make this a more pleasurable and sustainable experience for all the people involved in it and all the future generations before the sun burns out.
02:34:55.000 There's gotta be a way to make it more comfortable.
02:34:57.000 I just lean towards this whole market-based libertarian kind of self-determination and freedom. 0.89
02:35:04.000 We have all this fucked up stuff where We have people that want to marry each other, and we won't let them marry each other. 0.96
02:35:10.000 Chick-fil-A. Exactly. 0.99
02:35:12.000 Chick-fil-A. People are boycotting Chick-fil-A in Boston.
02:35:15.000 They were going off another part of the country saying they don't want Chick-fil-A. It's hilarious.
02:35:20.000 So we get people all spun up over stuff like that. 0.96
02:35:24.000 We dump a bunch of money into a prohibition tactic on the drug scene that we know just doesn't fucking work. 0.93
02:35:31.000 All it does... 0.96
02:35:32.000 It eats up resources.
02:35:33.000 It creates a black market.
02:35:35.000 Well, it also creates jobs, though.
02:35:37.000 The real problem with keeping drugs illegal is that there's a whole bunch of people that make their living busting people who are on drugs. 0.97
02:35:43.000 There's a reason why, by the way, these fucking DEA agents keep raiding medical marijuana dispensers. 0.99
02:35:49.000 You don't hear a goddamn peep About them busting heroin dealers or busting Oxycontin factories or busting illegal shit like meth labs. 1.00
02:35:57.000 They're not doing that. 0.99
02:35:58.000 You don't hear that.
02:35:58.000 It's very rare.
02:35:59.000 Because that's dangerous as shit. 0.99
02:36:01.000 And they know they can go into these pot factories or these pot dispensaries. 1.00
02:36:04.000 They're like a cow. 1.00
02:36:05.000 They're easy to get.
02:36:05.000 It's an easy collar.
02:36:06.000 It's an easy collar. 0.90
02:36:07.000 And it's disgusting.
02:36:09.000 Because there's a business involved in giving these people jobs. 0.99
02:36:12.000 These people that are DEA agents, they have to fucking do work. 0.94
02:36:15.000 So they're taking the easiest road possible to do that work. 0.99
02:36:18.000 They're going after... 0.99
02:36:20.000 Some shit that's illegal that doesn't hurt anybody. 0.99
02:36:22.000 I mean, it's one of the worst abuses of the law that we have clinically or rather classically on record. 0.99
02:36:29.000 Like, this is like one of the worst, most obvious abuses of the law.
02:36:33.000 How are you serving or protecting by closing a dispensary?
02:36:37.000 You're not.
02:36:38.000 You know you're not.
02:36:38.000 And yet you know that there's real problems out there.
02:36:41.000 You know there's meth labs.
02:36:42.000 How do these people run meth?
02:36:44.000 Drive to Riverside.
02:36:46.000 Drive around.
02:36:47.000 Drive around to these areas that have meth issues where meth is in their community.
02:36:50.000 Where's that meth coming from? 1.00
02:36:51.000 It's coming from somewhere, you fuck. 1.00
02:36:53.000 You need to go find that meth, you assholes. 1.00
02:36:54.000 If you want to find something that's bad, find something that actually does damage. 1.00
02:36:58.000 They're taking the cheap and easy way out like shitty government employees. 1.00
02:37:02.000 That's the real problem with drugs being illegal, is that it gives idiots a job in keeping things illegal. 1.00
02:37:08.000 And you know, we're expanding the idiots. 1.00
02:37:10.000 We have this kind of wacky healthcare thing that they want. 1.00
02:37:14.000 And if it's not the foot soldiers, it's whoever the fuck tells them they have to go and bust it. 0.99
02:37:18.000 Maybe the soldiers... 0.98
02:37:19.000 The actual officers are the ones who are trying to make a difference.
02:37:22.000 I mean, who knows who's the dummy that's telling them they need to close down the medical marijuana dispensaries, but that is the only way you can keep all those people employed.
02:37:30.000 They have to be busting somebody.
02:37:32.000 Right. 0.99
02:37:32.000 You know, if you have a million DEA agents, or whatever the fuck it is, and you all of a sudden make marijuana legal, what the fuck do they do? 0.99
02:37:39.000 You know, what do the prisons do? 0.98
02:37:41.000 When they have all these people that are in jail for something, retroactively should be released... 0.96
02:37:45.000 I mean, just because they violated a ridiculous law ten years ago, they shouldn't be still locked in a fucking cage if we've determined that law doesn't make any sense. 0.94
02:37:53.000 So then what happens? 0.98
02:37:54.000 We let everybody out of the prisons.
02:37:56.000 The prisons don't make money anymore.
02:37:58.000 The privatized prison stocks go down.
02:38:01.000 You're going to fire some of the jail guys?
02:38:03.000 Well, then they're going to go crazy with their union. 0.98
02:38:06.000 Industries come and go all the time.
02:38:07.000 That's probably one that could...
02:38:09.000 Staying going. 1.00
02:38:10.000 Yeah, fuck it could but it's not it doesn't seem like that's happening in our life We need to figure out a way to force feed that like a fog wad duck and just listen cocksuckers. 0.99
02:38:19.000 This is the future It's not right to lock people up for marijuana, you know, it's it's interesting the there was a Ron Paul rally in in Nevada that I went to in Reno, and it was huge and It was all young people and it was like Black people and white people and Asian people. 0.99
02:38:36.000 And I mean, Nevada doesn't have that much racial diversity.
02:38:38.000 And so the fact that there was, you know, this mix there and that they were young and they were impassioned about this kind of libertarian idea, it was pretty interesting.
02:38:47.000 And in this Paleo scene, it's a really interesting overlap with it.
02:38:52.000 Like almost everybody in this Paleo scene is like kind of libertarian politics.
02:38:56.000 Like they want gay marriage. 1.00
02:38:58.000 They want free drugs. 0.55
02:38:59.000 Why is that? 1.00
02:39:00.000 I think it's because they're fucking smart. 0.99
02:39:02.000 It's like they've rattled all the stuff around. 0.97
02:39:05.000 The vegetarians, and I know people are going to hate me, but there's a sense about, well, we're going to nice our way into a stable world, but the reality is that the way that nature works is that you have carnivores and herbivores, and there's a biodynamic kind of system there, and I think that people in the Paleocene more embrace that, and they embrace decentralized farming and permaculture and things like that, but there's a really...
02:39:30.000 Powerful kind of libertarian element to this Paleo scene and it's growing like crazy.
02:39:35.000 Like every 12 months on Google it's doubling.
02:39:38.000 And as it stands right now, it is just growing exponentially.
02:39:42.000 And so you've got kind of a food-oriented, kind of exercise-oriented scene, which is a little culty, but it's also got this interesting kind of market-based libertarian kind of politics that seem to be woven through the whole thing.
02:39:56.000 When you say culty, though, I think it speaks to people's ideas.
02:40:00.000 It's like... 0.97
02:40:01.000 When it comes along, when something comes along that speaks to what people had sort of surmised on their own, or at least suspected, but didn't have a direction to put all the facts in, especially when it comes to libertarian ideology and just leaving people alone, letting them do what the fuck they want to do.
02:40:18.000 For so many people, that's just a big yes! 0.53
02:40:21.000 Like, finally! 0.99
02:40:22.000 What the fuck is going on? 1.00
02:40:24.000 Is it just this weird-ass fucking society where dumb people are allowed to thrive and that promotes these ridiculous solutions like a 10,000-year-old earth and supporting ridiculous old texts that were written back when people thought the world was flat and the sun was 17 miles away? 1.00
02:40:40.000 I mean, it almost is like that's suppressing the growth. 1.00
02:40:45.000 The U.S. is wacky in that we have a remarkably unsophisticated scientific understanding of the way the world works. 0.99
02:40:54.000 Yet, we make all the coolest science shit. 0.99
02:40:56.000 It's really weird. 0.99
02:40:58.000 It's really weird, you know, as a populist.
02:41:00.000 Except for like CERN, right?
02:41:01.000 Right, right.
02:41:01.000 It's like 10,000 scientists.
02:41:03.000 Which is super cool, yeah.
02:41:04.000 But, you know, it's a weird gig.
02:41:07.000 And, you know, I think a lot of...
02:41:09.000 The problematic things that pop up, like when you see people who are homeless, when you see families with kids who don't have a job and they don't have a home, then you want to do something to help them.
02:41:19.000 And I think having support networks and safety nets are smart, but when you create them in such a way that you're incentivized to stay in versus get out, then you create an indentured class and essentially a slave class because they can't get...
02:41:34.000 If you don't incentivize people to have self-direction, Then it's easier for them to stay there, but the easiest way to destroy a person's soul is to provide them their means and not cause them to suffer and to find their own way through life.
02:41:49.000 Yeah, they will have no personal development, no character.
02:41:52.000 Right.
02:41:52.000 Which is the welfare state.
02:41:54.000 Right, and I think that there's lots of good intentions that, you know, the path to hell is paved on good intentions.
02:42:01.000 So there's a lot of desire to help people, and, you know, there's a...
02:42:05.000 Doing these more market-based approaches like having You know, social support networks being driven more at the local level instead of the federal level and stuff like that.
02:42:15.000 So, you know, there's been this thing floating around like the Cato Institute for ages where instead of paying like 50% of my taxes to the federal government like I'm doing now, if I pay to a local 5013C, a local nonprofit, then it's dollar for dollar reduces my tax burden at the federal level.
02:42:33.000 And then how, you know, a local nonprofit is going to be transparent.
02:42:37.000 It's going to be efficient.
02:42:39.000 If they shit the bed on something, you can shut them down and pull your money and put it someplace else.
02:42:44.000 And there's a lot of other ways besides just expanding government to get things done and to take care of people. 0.98
02:42:52.000 And people look at this kind of libertarian idea as being cruel and Machiavellian, that some people are going to be winners and losers.
02:43:01.000 That will always be the case, but if we create a vibrant society with freedom and we respect each other's rights, and even if we don't agree, we don't fucking kill each other over the differences and stuff like that, you've got a really amazing thing that could happen from that.
02:43:16.000 And I'm optimistic, even while we've got drones flying overhead, even while we've got another move by our supposedly hope and change-oriented president that is oriented towards more internet.
02:43:30.000 Suppression and more internet monitoring. 0.99
02:43:31.000 Like it is really scary shit. 0.99
02:43:33.000 And it's just wacky to me whether you're on the more liberal side or on the more right-wing conservative side. 0.99
02:43:40.000 The stuff that people rally behind but not see the cracks in the methodology, it's crazy to me.
02:43:45.000 I don't understand it. 0.90
02:43:47.000 Well, I think people just don't look into it that deeply, and they're usually really fucking busy.
02:43:52.000 So what they do is subscribe to an ideology that makes them feel good. 0.88
02:43:55.000 Whether it's a Christian, God-loving, I'm a Second Amendment believer.
02:43:59.000 How many of them have ever even looked into it?
02:44:02.000 Give me my gun!
02:44:03.000 That's my gun!
02:44:04.000 I mean, are you really looking at it realistically?
02:44:06.000 I support the Second Amendment, but I mean, how many people really should have guns? 1.00
02:44:10.000 How many people are fucking morons? 1.00
02:44:12.000 How many people shouldn't have cars? 1.00
02:44:14.000 I mean, it's like we've made it so easy for someone to have the ability to use something as crazy as a car.
02:44:19.000 And I was joking around about, I love American cars.
02:44:23.000 I love, like, American muscle cars.
02:44:24.000 I love that...
02:44:25.000 I mean, it's ridiculous, but I love that, like, Shelby, they're making a new Shelby GT500 with 660 horsepower.
02:44:33.000 Right.
02:44:34.000 That's insane! 1.00
02:44:35.000 The idea that someone would need 660 fucking horsepower in a streetcar. 0.99
02:44:39.000 But, I love the fact that you can get it. 0.99
02:44:41.000 Right. 1.00
02:44:42.000 I love the fact that you could be a fucking idiot with 10 speeding tickets, 15 fucking crashes. 1.00
02:44:47.000 As long as you're insured... 1.00
02:44:48.000 And you have whatever it costs, 80 grand or whatever the fuck it is, you can go to a Ford dealership and get by yourself a goddamn 2013 Shelby GT500 and just drive like a maniac until they pull you over and arrest you. 0.98
02:45:00.000 It's something designed to break the law. 0.98
02:45:03.000 It's bright red with white stripes on it.
02:45:06.000 It sounds like war. 0.99
02:45:08.000 And it's got 660 fucking horsepower. 0.99
02:45:11.000 I love that you can just do that. 0.98
02:45:12.000 But really, you shouldn't be able to.
02:45:14.000 Right. 1.00
02:45:15.000 Really, it is kind of fucking crazy that we allow some asshole who could be texting to have 660 horsepower. 1.00
02:45:22.000 We trust them. 1.00
02:45:23.000 We trust them to have their shit together. 0.99
02:45:25.000 We have to figure out a way to make it so that you have to overcome something to achieve success. 0.99
02:45:31.000 In order to feed yourself, you've got to do some work.
02:45:34.000 In order to, you know, improve your environment and your surroundings, you have to put forth some effort.
02:45:39.000 And when we make it so that people just get checks for nothing, that is like the complete opposite of the natural behavior response, natural reward system that's set up for human beings. 0.96
02:45:50.000 It makes us fat cunts. 0.97
02:45:52.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:45:52.000 I mean, it steals our soul. 1.00
02:45:54.000 Yeah.
02:45:54.000 And so you're really not helping people in that situation.
02:45:57.000 But how do you fix that, though, once it's in place?
02:46:00.000 Do you force grandma to work? 1.00
02:46:02.000 Bitch, get up! 1.00
02:46:03.000 You're going to starve to death. 1.00
02:46:04.000 You know, like, there's a lot of things.
02:46:06.000 Like, instead of, you know, your retirement going into a government pool, maybe you manage your own health savings account and 401k.
02:46:14.000 And some people may shit the bed, and then you may be reliant on the...
02:46:22.000 Churches, 501c, stuff like that.
02:46:26.000 It's impossible to ensure that everybody is going to be 100% taken care of.
02:46:31.000 I think that that's a gut check for people.
02:46:33.000 They don't understand it.
02:46:35.000 My parents are unfortunately a good example.
02:46:38.000 My father was very smart, but he chose not to do the things that he should have done.
02:46:43.000 And he could have had an engineering degree.
02:46:45.000 He could have done drafting and stuff like that. 1.00
02:46:47.000 Instead, he just kind of fucked off. 0.99
02:46:48.000 And he really didn't have much in his later life. 0.99
02:46:51.000 And it's because, you know, inner child stuff, you know, whatever. 0.95
02:46:55.000 His father was a horrible person. 0.95
02:46:56.000 Like, I get that. 0.95
02:46:57.000 Like, I had a way better childhood than my dad did.
02:46:59.000 He had it way more difficult than I did.
02:47:01.000 But he had choices that he could have made that would have provided for his family, would have provided for himself, and he chose not to do it.
02:47:08.000 And he had a really rough, you know, end of his life.
02:47:10.000 The last 15 years of his life sucked.
02:47:12.000 But he steered the boat that way, you know, and I just don't want to do that.
02:47:16.000 And I think that that's a gut check for people that...
02:47:20.000 They want a safety net.
02:47:21.000 They want a safety net when you can't save everybody.
02:47:24.000 And they think that's what the government is for.
02:47:26.000 The government is for a big pillow to make sure that you're going to be okay.
02:47:29.000 But when you tell people they're going to be okay, they don't work as hard as when they don't know if they're going to be okay.
02:47:32.000 Right.
02:47:33.000 And that's what they need to do.
02:47:34.000 Yeah.
02:47:35.000 Yeah.
02:47:35.000 They need a little fear to motivate them.
02:47:38.000 Fuck yeah, man. 1.00
02:47:39.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:47:39.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:47:39.000 I think we need that with everything. 1.00
02:47:42.000 You know, I think everything in life is uncertain and you have to always embrace the idea that you're a temporary being. 0.91
02:47:48.000 The lights are shutting off no matter when the fucking sun overcomes the earth with its expansion. 1.00
02:47:54.000 The lights are shutting off for you way sooner than that, bitch. 1.00
02:47:56.000 Right. 1.00
02:47:57.000 Get it together, you motherfuckers! 1.00
02:47:59.000 Rob Wolf, you're a bad motherfucker, dude. 1.00
02:48:01.000 You dropped some serious knowledge on this podcast. 1.00
02:48:03.000 I really, really appreciate it, man.
02:48:04.000 Thank you, man.
02:48:05.000 So informative and interesting, and I bet we could probably do ten of these, right?
02:48:09.000 Tell me when you want me back, and I'll bring the mixed drinks next time. 0.99
02:48:13.000 I'm reading your book as of today, and I'm going to get that shit. 1.00
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02:48:25.000 No, I'll get it from Doug.
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02:49:53.000 It's a really amazing and inspirational book that I really enjoy.
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02:50:27.000 You know about that?
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02:50:28.000 The Brazilian wandering spider?
02:50:29.000 Yeah, the Brazilian wandering spider gives you, when it stings you, it kills more people than any spider in the world. 1.00
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02:50:54.000 This just sounds like all upside.
02:50:57.000 But they got some pharmaceutical dudes trying to figure out how to use this spider's properties.
02:51:02.000 It's probably the next Spider-Man movie.
02:51:04.000 In the Spider-Man movie, everybody has a hard-on. 0.94
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