00:02:40.000A lot of them get killed, or they get run off.
00:02:43.000A lot of them just get involved in their normal day to day life from 20 years prior.
00:02:52.000Now, suddenly, that's coming up, and they have to defend themselves against criticisms that they never would have believed that they would have to defend themselves from.
00:03:00.000And so, character assassination, I think, takes a lot of the good actors out.
00:03:04.000They don't want to deal with a character assassination.
00:03:06.000Well, it seems like they want total compliance on both sides, on both parties.
00:03:18.000Well, you kind of, I think you kind of have to have that a little bit though, because if you got universal suffrage, necessarily everything converges into a two party system.
00:03:29.000So as suffrage expanded throughout history, you saw the emergence of parties right alongside of it.
00:03:34.000As more people became enfranchised to vote.
00:03:37.000So you think if women couldn't vote, there wouldn't be parties?
00:03:39.000There probably would still be parties.
00:03:41.000It'd probably still be a two party system.
00:03:44.000It's just that how it works is that if we, Continuously expand suffrage, let's just say we expand it to another group of men.
00:03:52.000Now, those men have some special interest, right?
00:03:55.000So, if it's not just property owners, let's say it's now, you know, people who live in a city.
00:04:00.000Well, they want a levy passed so that their kids can go to school, right?
00:04:04.000So they pass it on the property owners.
00:04:06.000Now they can vote to hand themselves money.
00:04:10.000And so you'll see parties start to form around these wedge issues.
00:04:14.000And the more you have universal suffrage, the more you end up with party politics until you have a convergence of two.
00:04:20.000And usually it's along a certain wedge issue.
00:04:22.000So, the only way in a dialectic where you have two parties, Democrat and Republican to get your legislation passed is to be able to outvote the other side, right?
00:04:34.000So you kind of have to have them all in line or else.
00:05:03.000And I told him, I'm like, look, you don't have a prayer in starting a third party in time for midterms and then the presidential election that's coming up in just a couple short years.
00:05:14.000You're not going to be able to replace this system.
00:05:16.000You're not going to be able to do that.
00:05:18.000Their roots go too deep, they're too intertwined in power and influence.
00:05:23.000Like, think about the infrastructure billions of dollars in NGO funding, all this outreach program.
00:07:04.000Strategically started moving some things with her accountant so that she could get a beard that they owned that never made a bottle of wine.
00:07:31.000They're both dipping their toes in, they're both having fun.
00:07:35.000You basically always have the expectation of corruption.
00:07:38.000So, even if you put your candidates in, so you're trying to get something out of that, right?
00:07:42.000Some issue that you're trying to push forward, you almost baked into the system have to accept a certain amount of corruption is going to come out of that.
00:07:49.000So, like, let me give you a really good example of that, a key wedge issue like abortion.
00:07:53.000So, you got Christians who are just adamant, right?
00:07:58.000Will they accept if it's the case that candidates are really moving the post on that, if they're really moving legislation against abortion?
00:08:07.000Do you think that they would turn a blind eye to a little bit of corruption?
00:08:13.000Yeah, there's definitely some compromises that get made, both on your morals and the way you view financial issues and all kinds of things.
00:08:58.000And so you think about it and you go, this two party system sucks.
00:09:02.000But then you look at other places that have multiple parties and they do their rounds of voting and you're like, wait, see, you could get elected with only 14% of those.
00:09:12.000This is the weird argument of the benevolent dictator.
00:09:15.000I'm sure you've heard this argument, but that a society is best run by a benevolent dictator someone who really, truly has ultimate power but actually cares.
00:09:24.000A good person that cares about the people.
00:09:26.000That really just wants things to be reasonable and have a working meritocracy and have a working economy and have working education and everything work correctly and weed out all of the fraud and corruption because he's a king.
00:14:46.000But there's certainly something to be said for a society that is more orderly and people follow the rules, as long as the rules make sense.
00:14:56.000And these people are friendly and kind, and they make For good community members.
00:15:02.000And they're not putting up with mentally ill lunatics just walking around causing problems everywhere, which is what American society is now dealing with.
00:15:09.000Would you see what just happened in Wisconsin where they had their own autonomous zone?
00:15:14.000It just got broken up today by the cops.
00:16:09.000There are so many fucking things in the news that it's impossible, unless you're a maniac and you're just online all day, it's impossible to know exactly what's going on.
00:16:17.000You take a couple days off and smell the roses.
00:16:37.000See, now that, I wish that that was a message that more people got.
00:16:42.000That the idea that you don't have to rush immediately out there to tell everybody your latest hottest take, which is oftentimes, by the way, stupid.
00:16:51.000Yeah, it's often a stupid take because you have no information.
00:18:15.000plots of interest where there aren't any.
00:18:17.000It starts to actually drive people mad because they can't disassociate between the fact that there is sensationalism and then there's reality.
00:18:27.000And the way that people think, they think in frames.
00:18:37.000But then if you think in an autistic frame, as my friend Paul would say, if you think in an autistic frame, you're going to hone down so deep on one detail that you miss the entirety of the picture.
00:18:49.000So you have to have an idea between these two things.
00:20:29.000Controversy centers on whether Madison police needed to use deadly force against 38 year old Corey Ruiz, a black man during a July 2026 arrest, and on the lack of body camera footage.
00:20:39.000Conflicting narratives about the threat he posed and the broader concerns about racialized policing.
00:20:46.000Police responded to reports of a man allegedly looking into parked vehicles and stealing bicycles.
00:20:52.000During the attempted arrest by four officers, a taser was deployed but reportedly failed.
00:20:58.000Police say Ruiz pulled a knife and injured an officer, after which that officer shot and killed him.
00:21:05.000Cell phone video recorded by a bystander shows part of the struggle and shooting and quickly went viral, triggering protests and public outcry.
00:21:12.000Use of deadly force versus alternatives.
00:21:15.000Community members and Ruiz's family questioned why lethal force was used when.
00:21:19.000Multiple officers were already restraining him on the ground, and a taser had been deployed, arguing that he did not deserve to be shot to death in the street.
00:21:30.000None of the officers involved were wearing body worn cameras, so the only visual recording is bystander video, which fuels distrust and demands for more accountability and measures and technology.
00:21:43.000Police emphasized that Ruy stabbed or injured an officer with a knife, framing the shooting as a response to an immediate threat.
00:21:51.000Critics and loved ones question whether the threat justified shooting a restrained man and whether de escalation was properly used.
00:21:57.000Well, first of all, if he really did stab a police officer, if he's stabbing a police officer, like they are supposed to shoot him, that is, you can't take, you can't say, someone's stabbing me, I hope they're only hurting me.
00:22:38.000Like, if you got two dudes that are built like Tony Hinchcliffe and they're trying to hold me back from fucking somebody up, it's not gonna do nothing that you know what I mean.
00:26:46.000So if he really pulled out a knife and was trying to stab them, And they had him on the ground and they couldn't totally get control of him.
00:26:52.000And that guy just decides he stabbed me, I'm going to shoot him.
00:29:19.000Especially the routine traffic stops happens constantly.
00:29:22.000You have to always think, like, if you're in an altercation with a cop, these people are always worried that this is where their life is going to end.
00:29:30.000They're always worried that they're going to get shot.
00:29:34.000So, if you start shit with a cop and he freaks out and goes the wrong direction, like you're probably dealing with a guy who's got some serious PTSD.
00:30:59.000You know, when you think about who should be allowed to have kids, who should be, like, that's what's really crazy about freedom is that any two crackheads with no money at all just on the side of the road and he can nut inside of her and that creates a life.
00:31:17.000And that life they're responsible for.
00:31:19.000And they're smoking crack and drinking Everclear.
00:31:22.000And they have a baby grown inside their body, and no one can do anything about it.
00:31:26.000It's like there's no protection for that baby, there's no nothing.
00:31:30.000And then if that baby is born, if it does live, like, you know, you talk to people that have actually been in the delivery room with crack babies.
00:31:55.000It's like people can be so awesome and so shit at the same time, coexisting on the same patch of dirt, and no one devises a legitimate strategy for mitigating the amount of people that suck and the problems with.
00:32:19.000Do you want Big Brother looking at your license plate everywhere you go?
00:32:23.000Well, listen, if someone shoots up like This is an argument that Mark Hendrison made on this podcast.
00:32:29.000When he had come here, right before he had come here, there was a shooting in Austin where some kids just randomly started shooting at people.
00:32:38.000And then they couldn't find them in Austin.
00:32:41.000But as soon as they left Austin city limits, they went to an area that had flock cameras and they got them like that.
00:32:47.000So this was his argument for the benefits of flock cameras.
00:32:52.000I do believe he invests in flock cameras.
00:33:01.000The thing is, you have to be cautious with the idea of the nanny state for another reason besides just protecting people's independent privacy.
00:33:08.000It's because those things often become money wells for people to steal from the public trough.
00:33:19.000So some of the reasons I tend, even though I'm on the paleo Christian side, to lean towards a lot of the freedom elements over the non is because of the corruption.
00:33:28.000The corruption, which happens oftentimes when you try to curtail too much.
00:34:50.000Even that, like, I don't think you should be a heroin addict, but I don't think I should be the one to tell you not to do heroin.
00:34:56.000I don't, because I think it's a slippery slope, and then it's don't smoke cigarettes, and then it's because cigarettes are killing you, and then it's don't drink whiskey because you could be a drunk driver and kill a family of five.
00:35:08.000It's like, but do you think that all those have kind of the same impact on society ultimately?
00:35:13.000Well, the heroin thing is a weird one because, um, because, like, the argument I make would be like the incest argument, it'd be like, look, That's outlawed for a good reason.
00:35:25.000But what if you have two people who are totally sterile?
00:37:31.000Didn't they just pass something like that in Toronto?
00:37:34.000Wasn't that in Ontario where they're allowing polygamy now because they have so many Islamic people living there that think that you should be allowed to have?
00:37:42.000Well, I remember there were big pushes for that in Utah because of the Mormon population.
00:37:47.000Well, you know, that's why Mitt Romney's family moved to Mexico.
00:40:30.000If you went into X tomorrow, let's say, and there was an option there where you could select it and it's like U.S. accounts only, that's all you could see, do you think that 90% of the traffic for people would go away?
00:42:36.000He's being dogged by a progressive organization.
00:42:40.000This progressive organization shows up at almost all of these TPUSA events with the stated mission of trying to create a counter movement to what TPUSA is doing.
00:42:51.000Now, the woman who heads this particular organization received millions of dollars from ActBlue and other progressive organizations for this stated mission.
00:43:00.000That same woman, right this second, works with other op organizations.
00:43:04.000X accounts to push the messaging that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by his own TPUSA insiders in order to push that narrative forward because the stated goal, still from that organization, is to destroy TPUSA.
00:43:18.000So, how do we know that they've done this?
00:43:21.000Are there emails that have been found?
00:43:23.000Well, the stated goal of this particular person is to take down TPUSA.
00:44:30.000So, take Ian Carroll, within 24 hours after Kirk's death, blames Israel.
00:44:36.000Within 24 hours, he says, Israel killed Kirk.
00:44:39.000That was his tweet, it went mega viral.
00:44:42.000What the conspiracy is on that side is that Israel, along with Erica Kirk and TPUSA insiders, got together with elements of the U.S. government to murder Charlie Kirk because he was going to leave the, quote, pro Israel cause.
00:45:01.000And that he was either murdered, some of them say with a microphone exploding, some of them say with a, there was a second shooter and Robinson's a patsy.
00:45:12.000It all depends on which theorist you're talking to, but they all work together in the same unison from a single camp, which is interesting.
00:45:20.000Well, a lot of people had takes on the shooting, and the microphone one was the weirdest one to me.
00:45:29.000It's weird because there's no like, yeah, the shirt is moving, but also a bullet is going like how many feet per second whizzing through the air?
00:49:37.000It's hard to believe that it wouldn't blow a hole through the neck and leave a big fucking, just take a chunk out, that it would just make a round hole.
00:52:54.000Also, that guy might just have been a kook who was in the crowd who took advantage of a situation because he's literally insane and he's into kiddie porn.
00:53:02.000Well, there's no doubt one of the biggest kind of false narratives that comes out of this.
00:53:06.000And when I do debates, one of the things I'm trying to structure around is like, I know that we're coming in with a narrative, but I need to understand yours and you need to understand mine so we can get somewhere towards what the truth is here, right?
00:53:20.000Because you're going to have a frame of which you're viewing the world, a worldview, and so am I.
00:53:27.000We have to figure each other's out to get somewhere.
00:53:30.000Here with this, one of the most disturbing aspects of it is.
00:53:34.000The people who promote this actually don't want their worldview or their positions to be examined.
00:53:40.000They only want to examine the evidence from the state.
00:53:42.000It's like that would be fine, I think, if it was the case that you made no claims past that.
00:53:48.000So if you just only say, hey, you know, I'm not really sure what happened, and I want to really kind of review the evidence, and that's that, I don't really have a problem with that.
00:54:11.000Remember, the 30-odd six used in the M1 Grand was used in World War II, and then it was used in Korea.
00:54:18.000Before that, we had the 03 Springfield, it was used heavily in World War I, World War II, and again in Korea.
00:54:24.000The U.S. Army has studied 30-odd six entry wounds in depth and produced many manuals on it explaining how cavitation works with 30-odd six and that the bullet doesn't always penetrate.
00:54:35.000And that's with full metal jacket rounds that are designed for maximum penetration.
00:54:40.000Not 150 grain core lock coming out of an antique rifle, essentially, it could easily split up very quickly.
00:54:48.000And that's why they ended up pulling fragments out of Charlie.
00:54:52.000It wouldn't surprise me if, when we have all the data from the Corner Report, he has tons of shards all throughout his chest, all throughout his entire body, because they were saying that there's trauma inside the chest, which would make sense if the bullet split up here.
00:55:24.000So they're using it in all these different wars.
00:55:26.000And the amount of people shot with that caliber between World War I, II, and Korea is astronomical.
00:55:32.000They didn't even use the 30 out of 6 in Vietnam in limited capacity, especially the 03 Springfield.
00:55:36.000It was still in service by special forces.
00:55:39.000So the question becomes like the U.S. Army has studied this in depth.
00:55:43.000And I went back and I pulled all their manuals.
00:55:45.000And I've even put them out, and several people have done the exact same thing and put them out explaining how cavitation works.
00:55:52.000And they're saying, look, the energy dissipation, the second it hits a human body, it dissipates very, very, very quickly with the resistance.
00:57:09.000It's difficult there when you're making the judgments on the sound because there are people who've run experiments saying right down to the second this meets up with a shot placement.
00:57:20.000And then there's people who say, no, that experiment is bogus due to the controls for this or that.
00:57:26.000The problem is that most of these people don't have any expertise in this arena at all.
00:58:05.000It's like I've never been able to verify that was the case.
00:58:08.000Okay, so where does that claim come from?
00:58:09.000This claim basically comes from this camp without anything to substantiate it.
00:58:13.000So it's the same people that are pushing this thing, the Turning Point Killers.
00:58:16.000What's interesting about this is like it is indeed true.
00:58:19.000It does appear that Charlie Kirk was extremely pissed off at some of his donors because they were trying to control who he was platforming.
00:58:27.000They were upset that he had platformed Tucker Carlson, they were upset that he had platformed Candace Owens.
00:58:48.000Many of them were pro Israel, and some of these donors were applying pressure.
00:58:52.000And so Kirk was lamenting inside of his text messages about this pressure he was experiencing from some of his donors about who he could or couldn't platform.
00:59:01.000And so as a negotiating piece, he said, well, I'll leave the pro Israeli cause if you're going to try to tell me who I can and can't platform.
00:59:08.000And that was kind of what his position was.
00:59:13.000Even on Twitch politics or YouTube politics with smaller channels, smaller streamers, they argue about platforming all the time, responsible platforming.
00:59:23.000Is it responsible for you to platform this guy?
00:59:26.000Is it responsible for you to platform this terrorist?
00:59:28.000And they're endlessly fighting about it.
00:59:30.000So, this actually doesn't surprise me a bit that these guys are fighting over who you can or can't platform.
00:59:37.000If you're giving your money to an NGO, For the purpose of giving the pro cause, and that NGO is saying, wait a second, I'm going to platform people who are against your cause.
00:59:46.000Of course, the donor is going to get pissed.
00:59:48.000Yeah, the platforming thing, I think, is just gatekeeping.
00:59:51.000If you're upset that someone is having a conversation or a debate with someone that you don't agree with, you're supposed to hear that person's perspective.
01:00:02.000You're supposed to hear them challenged.
01:00:04.000You're supposed to hear them allowed to flesh out the full point of view.
01:00:09.000Not like in weird clip form, but go ahead, tell me what you really think.
01:00:14.000And I'm going to tell you why I disagree with that.
01:00:43.000The reason why he's saying that is because there are specific laws that were designed to hire people just based on their race and not on their competency.
01:00:56.000He wasn't saying that black people weren't competent as pilots.
01:00:59.000What he's worried is that in the rush to meet these quotas, they're going to hire people who are not competent just because they're black.
01:01:07.000Just like if they wanted to hire old white guys, they can hire a bunch of old white guys who suck if they just want to fill a quota of old white guys.
01:01:16.000It just happens at this particular time when he's talking about black people.
01:01:20.000It seems like if you just look at the clip, this racist piece of shit doesn't think black people can fly a plane.
01:01:26.000The unfortunate thing about thinking out loud.
01:01:31.000And when you think out loud in public, someone can take what you're saying and take a clip of it and completely out of context, it looks bad.
01:04:24.000And the way he would talk to people, if you see enough of these, not the clips, but enough of these conversations with people, it depended entirely on how the person approached him.
01:04:33.000And when people were respectful and reasonable with him, he was very kind and respectful and reasonable back.
01:05:14.000I mean, but those also, there's clips where, look, you're in these agitated environments and people are yelling at you and you're yelling back.
01:05:23.000And, you know, just get a clip of that.
01:05:24.000It's like, oh, this guy comes to harass kids.
01:05:26.000Like, That's it's you should welcome discourse, and it should be something where everybody can do peacefully.
01:05:34.000It shouldn't be where these people speak and you hit the fire alarm because you don't want them speaking, and you're outside screaming and chanting and throwing rocks at their cars.
01:05:42.000Like, that's crazy, that's bad for everybody.
01:05:45.000Last time I talked to Steven because he went and did a couple more of those after Kirk had died, and I said, You know, you that's dangerous as hell, man.
01:05:55.000You know, and he's like, Well, I I'm just going to build a bulletproof glass square and I'll just do it from there.
01:06:43.000It pissed them off so bad that after he died, we did three weeks on TikTok, going and talking to various TikTokers and their channels who were just celebrating his death like you can't believe.
01:07:12.000And it was weeks of it that we went and exposed these various TikTokers doing that.
01:07:16.000Yeah, I saw a lot of people online celebrating, and it's just disturbing, weird to watch that you would encourage that kind of gun violence.
01:07:25.000Like, when is the left encouraging gun violence?
01:08:44.000So, for instance, the guy was still very much a pro Israel guy, even up to death.
01:08:51.000It is true that he was fighting with donors about the cause of this.
01:08:54.000But if he could have been a substantial roadblock to the Iraq war, or Iran war, rather, if he was a substantial roadblock, I mean, that's not outside the realm of possibility that a nation state would take a guy like that out.
01:09:49.000The interesting part, though, if you look at the history there, Fuentes conducted his graper war against TPUSA and Charlie Kirk because of the pro Israel stance and because of his pro homosexual stance,
01:10:03.000his big tent Republican stance, as we called it.
01:10:07.000So they had the pro stances for these things.
01:10:12.000And what's interesting about all of it, if you follow the details of it up until Kirk's death, TPUSA actually moved a lot more towards.
01:10:21.000The Groyper Fuentes position, then they move towards the kind of pro Israel, this type of position, meaning a lot of the ideology that I think Kirk was changing on came from these various outside influences.
01:10:35.000And so if that's the case, why wouldn't you just curtail those outside influences and then you can keep Kirk as the mouthpiece, right?
01:10:42.000So I think that there's a pretty good counter to that idea.
01:10:47.000Now, you can't rule anything out as possibility, but it seems likely to me with how much trans have been shooting everything up.
01:10:54.000For the last couple of years, and how often it's the case that you find leftists involved in these signal groups and involved in these group chats and things like this for the purpose of radicalization wouldn't surprise me a bit if there was a left wing conspiracy assisting Tyler Robinson and radicalizing Tyler Robinson.
01:11:12.000There's at least some evidence for that based on the Discord groups, things like this that they were part of.
01:11:17.000I haven't actually seen a single piece of evidence that Israel was ever involved in this.
01:11:24.000I've seen a lot of speculation based on the text that Charlie made, the fact that he was so staunchly against the Iran war, and the fact that he did say that he was thinking about getting out of the Israel business, the pro Israel business.
01:11:37.000But in this climate, Israel gets blamed for a lot of things.
01:11:43.000There's also a thing that's going on with the Charlie Kirk turning point that we talked about earlier.
01:11:48.000They have to factor in with this, which is that there's a lot of outside interests that are.
01:13:31.000She's never presented a single shred of evidence thus far that Israel ever worked to murder Kirk, Erica Kirk certainly didn't.
01:13:39.000In fact, Her position for the longest time was if Erica Kirk comes out and tells me to stop, to stop this, to stop the conspiracy on this, I will.
01:14:06.000When I went to the TPUSA HQ and I talked to Erica briefly while I was there.
01:14:13.000The first thing I did was what I think every normal moral human being would ever do.
01:14:19.000I gave her a hug and I told her how god awful sorry I was that that happened to her.
01:14:25.000Like, can you even imagine how that's got to feel for her, especially now that she has tens of thousands of people accusing her of murdering and conspiring to murder and then cover up what happened to her own?
01:14:40.000I mean, that's like mind boggling psychological torture on a level.
01:14:57.000The going out with the sparklers was not a great idea.
01:15:00.000Like all that was not a great idea because it just seemed insane.
01:15:05.000And maybe sometimes in grief or when you're trying to show that they're not going to hold us back, people make choices that could be interpreted in a very bad way.
01:15:38.000The only reason I even really got involved is because Charlie was so pro marriage, you know, and he wanted to demonstrate to the world you can be married and have kids and this is the good life.
01:15:49.000So when he dies, She takes over, right?
01:16:45.000But the way that these people will scrutinize every detail of what a person does, they can make a liar out of anybody because they'll take statements like that, which in the common terms, if you say, man, Paul's never here on time,
01:17:01.000you don't literally mean he's never here on time.
01:17:42.000And they have to feel bad about the response because so many people got fired because of it and so many people got attacked online, and rightly so.
01:17:48.000But they were desecrating his memorial.
01:18:49.000And then there's a hundred thousand bots that are piling on as well.
01:18:53.000And no one really knows whether or not this is a rational, organic argument in there.
01:18:58.000They're in the fucking frenzy of a mosh pit.
01:19:01.000Do you remember years ago that the Israelis sent over that Stuxnet virus that took over the centrifuges in Iran and tore them all to pieces?
01:19:15.000The interesting side effect of this, for one thing, nobody knows how the hell they got their hands.
01:19:21.000On the original source code from Windows, like they have no idea.
01:19:23.000And it's still built into all the Windows programming, supposedly, right?
01:19:53.000AI missiles are going to launch all day and night.
01:19:57.000Remember those from all the Iranian governmental accounts.
01:20:02.000But what's interesting is that the online warfare, which has changed its entire political direction just the last few years with the opening up of X, which has been great for the idea sharing, but it's been terrible for the foreign government intervention.
01:20:18.000I don't know how many of these accounts from Saudi Arabia, they say.
01:21:14.000If you had a legitimate town square, like outside of a church or something like that, and then like a horde of 800 Arabs showed up and started telling you, like, no, sir, that's just not what happened, blah, blah, blah, people would dismiss them, right?
01:21:26.000But here they can go on and they put like a picture of a pretty white girl on there, right?
01:21:43.000And with AI now, it's like indistinguishable.
01:21:46.000You don't even have to be very good at the vernacular.
01:21:48.000You don't, you know, because sometimes in the old days, like when they first started doing this, they would say things like, hey, what's going on there?
01:22:48.000So if you have an AI account, like there was a big craze that was going on for a while where people would just make like an AI character and then the AI character would disseminate information, things like this.
01:22:58.000YouTube started to crack down on that and said, no more of the AI dissemination.
01:23:02.000There has to be real people back there.
01:23:05.000Now, interestingly enough, there's been a lot of guys coming out saying that AI is a massive bubble.
01:23:11.000And that all of it is formulated around the idea of Chat GPT and Grok and other things like this, which are interactive, but that AI tech itself has basically plateaued.
01:23:27.000I thought the AI music was supposed to be super sophisticated, but I can still tell when it's an AI song that there's been this huge plateau with it, and that all that investment capital is actually only coming in based around the success of Chat GPT, Grok,
01:23:41.000and other interactive AI reference machines.
01:23:44.000The technology of AI itself is not doing so hot in the market.
01:23:50.000And so it's creating this massive bubble.
01:23:52.000And I think that that's interesting because it really hasn't been that innovative.
01:23:57.000I thought it was supposed to be making video games now and it was supposed to be doing all the source code.
01:24:03.000We were supposed to have the AI Hollywood movies.
01:24:05.000We were supposed to have voice software that was indistinguishable.
01:25:12.000Is this programmed into them or they just have inherent motivation?
01:25:16.000Have they developed an understanding of how we behave so they're emulating how we behave but with a hyper intelligent scale and access to the literal entire internet?
01:25:30.000When I use like Rock or ChatGPT, I talk to it a lot about philosophy because it's super useful for pulling up and running arguments by and things like this.
01:25:41.000But it can also lead you astray because it's trained specifically to be a people pleaser.
01:25:45.000So you can easily give it arguments that it'll agree with that are just not true at all.
01:26:03.000There's no, but the only way I can frame things in my brain or you or Jamie or anybody else, if we're having a discussion, we have to assume a thing.
01:26:13.000We have to assume there's a you that we're talking to.
01:27:36.000We're not doing something as simple as making a really complicated program that's very useful, we're making a biological program.
01:27:43.000We're taking all the information that biological minds have developed, all of our writing, literature, mathematics, everything, and you're throwing it into something that's not biological that has infinitely more processing power than all the people.
01:27:59.000It's solving math problems at a staggering rate right now.
01:28:03.000Problems that have been stagnant for 50 fucking years.
01:30:58.000At least from my view so far, I play with AI all the time because I enjoy it, you know.
01:31:02.000But I'm an end user, I'm not a programmer, right?
01:31:05.000And you talk to these guys all the time.
01:31:07.000To me, it's still in the useful tool category for now, yeah.
01:31:10.000It's not in the like I'm petrified of what it's going to do anytime soon, um, at least due to the limitations I've seen so far.
01:31:18.000But you know, it's also good if we could go back with the Manhattan Project and nukes and we could have a projection of hey, maybe we should restrain some of this technology, yeah.
01:31:31.000Um, I think a lot of people would try to do that.
01:31:33.000And so I am glad that people are at least attempting to restrain how much of this technology is being released and how overwhelming it is.
01:31:42.000Like we were talking, I was talking with my wife the other day, just the idea of the smartphone.
01:31:46.000I think I discussed this with you briefly last time I was here.
01:31:50.000Just kids' access to smartphones, it rewires their brain, right?
01:31:56.000It's actually kind of dangerous to give them smartphones in many ways.
01:32:00.000And there was no real halt on that technology.
01:32:03.000When that technology for the smartphones came out, I don't remember any public service broadcast of like, don't give your kids smartphones.
01:32:18.000Maybe there should be a little bit more of a push to restrain some of this tech.
01:32:21.000Well, there certainly should be a push to educate people about how powerful it is and suicidal ideation, depression, anxiety, all of it ramps up around 2012.
01:32:31.000All of it ramps up with ubiquitous social media use and when kids are growing up with phones.
01:32:38.000And it fucks with their heads, man, in a big way.
01:32:40.000Thousand percent when you sit at the table and you're texting the guy next to you.
01:32:44.000That is actually weird to me, by the way.
01:33:52.000And he was talking to some guy, and his kids were playing, and some fucking person pulled up in a van and jumped out and was moving towards his kid.
01:34:02.000And he fucking screamed and ran towards him, and the guy jumped in the van and took off.
01:34:05.000But they were literally about to snatch his four year old up.
01:34:08.000Imagine if you're there and that happens, and you see the van.
01:34:11.000You have to chase the van that has your child in it.
01:34:26.000So, people are freaked out, you know, and that's something people are way more aware of now, especially with the internet, than people were when we were kids.
01:34:37.000You know, when we were kids, you just got let out of the house.
01:35:35.000Like, I remember, though, the first time I was introduced to that, to the concept of NAMBLA, I was watching TV with my dad, and it was like a news story that was on.
01:35:47.000And it was actually at a gay pride parade, interestingly enough.
01:35:50.000And they were running the NAMBLA guys out of the gay pride parade.
01:36:23.000And he, you know, my old man sitting in his chair, he said something akin to like, they ought to take them all, put them up against the wall, and that's the end of them.
01:36:51.000The argument is well, you want them to come forward so you can give them treatment.
01:36:56.000Now, you know, there's one treatment that works for this that is almost 100% effective.
01:37:01.000You can pull the stat right now if you don't believe me.
01:37:03.000It's called chemical castration, it's a real treatment for pedophiles, and it almost has a 0% recidivism rate after they've been chemically castrated.
01:37:13.000So their idea is they come forward for treatment.
01:37:17.000You know, my counter idea is why not just chemically castrate them?
01:37:22.000If you really were concerned about them going off and living a normal life.
01:37:25.000And if they really want to get free of that horrible thing, whatever fucking human demon error that's inside of them that makes them do that, that's the way.
01:37:37.000And that also is the same medication that they give to children when they're hormone blocking.
01:38:30.000Going through puberty is a fucking wild experience for a child.
01:38:35.000The idea that you can come along and give them a bunch of positive reinforcement for saying the reason why you're upset is because you're actually a this and we need to give you medication or we need to stop you going through puberty.
01:38:49.000The kid all of a sudden gets all this attention.
01:38:53.000They're telling them they're fabulous and they really think.
01:38:55.000There's a ton of these detransitioners out there, and their stories are horrific, not just in the fact that they did this to them and they removed their breasts when they were 15, they gave them testosterone, they'll never be able to have children,
01:39:08.000but also that they're attacked relentlessly by other people that think that they should never, that they are against the trans movement and they should never be saying what they're saying.
01:39:20.000They shouldn't be telling their stories.
01:39:42.000Well, if that's the case, if they really believe that, wouldn't they want to have a smaller net so
01:39:50.000they're not catching the people that they, well, and how are you not putting parents in prison who are trying to convince their kids? Of what their sex is or isn't.
01:40:04.000It's just crazy too because they get praised for it.
01:40:07.000It's like they have a true Whitney Cummings said it's like having a trans kid is like having a pride flag on your porch.
01:40:13.000Like there's a lot of, especially in Hollywood, man.
01:40:15.000In Hollywood, it's really weirdly common, weirdly common, where it doesn't make sense that this didn't exist 20 years ago.
01:40:22.000You tell me these people just lived in quiet desperation 20 years ago, really secretly wishing that they were a woman, but now they get to be free and we should applaud this.
01:40:42.000If you go back to, would you say, for instance, that right now we're far more accepting of trans kids than they ever would have been in like 1920, 1930, 100%.
01:40:56.000So, my question is always like, well, then, how come the teen suicide was so low when the kids couldn't come out to express their, you know, the fact that they needed to transition?
01:42:05.000Then there's this effect where it numbs your genitals.
01:42:09.000It stops you from being able to ever have an orgasm ever for some people.
01:42:13.000It's one of the more horrible side effects of these things.
01:42:16.000And you have pharmaceutical drug companies that are pushing them on people, and a ton of people are on them.
01:42:22.000So you have depressed kids going through puberty, entrapped in this insane fucking moment in history where people think it makes sense to give a child hormones before they even hit puberty or block their hormones before they even hit puberty.
01:42:36.000And you're giving them psychiatric drugs.
01:42:38.000You're just flooding them with all sorts of shit, whether it's psychological or chemical.
01:42:44.000Depending upon what side of the ideological spectrum you are on, you either think it's amazing or you think it's a crime against humanity.
01:44:02.000Jesus fucking Christ, that is the dumbest thing I've ever seen anybody say when you just got done saying that you don't want people to show ID for voting.
01:44:16.000They're talking about poor people and people of color, which are the people that you would think the poor people are the ones who are going to use your grocery stores.
01:44:25.000So you're going to disenfranchise them from getting access to your 30% off groceries.
01:44:29.000You know what's bizarre about that argument?
01:46:17.000There's a little bit of that, but there's also a little bit of young kids really feel like the system is rigged and that these pigs have gobbled up all the gold, and they're being told that.
01:46:27.000So, this is a thing, you know, like Billie Eilish said, Hey man, no one needs to be a billionaire.
01:47:07.000And they think that this idea of democratic socialism is a really good idea because there are some examples of socialist policies that do work, like the fire department and There's a bunch of stuff that makes sense.
01:47:19.000But the problem with enforcing any of this stuff that they don't understand is it always comes down to power.
01:47:26.000You have to have massive authority and usually guns because you can't just steal people's money.
01:47:33.000They're not going to let you just come in and decide, hey, we just devised a new tax where everybody who makes more than $500,000 a year, everything over that, you have to give 100% to the state.
01:49:12.000And I bring it back kind of to this idea of the class system.
01:49:16.000When you have the, under universal suffrage especially, when you have the voters outnumber the wealthy, you can just vote yourself a raise.
01:49:24.000You can always vote yourself more money from whatever the upper class is.
01:49:28.000And that has been progressive dogma and doctrine.
01:49:31.000Since I was a kid, the entire idea is hey, things are fundamentally unfair and that's not your fault.
01:49:36.000So, what we have to do is get together and vote ourselves a raise from the upper class.
01:49:49.000But what happens when you give somebody money is they go and spend it, but they usually don't use it to generate wealth.
01:49:56.000Almost never, in fact, do they use it to generate wealth.
01:49:59.000And so, you vote yourself these raises.
01:50:00.000You vote yourself from the public treasury money to yourself.
01:50:06.000But what does it actually do for you ultimately?
01:50:08.000Because that's not how you generate wealth ever.
01:50:12.000Not only that, you incentivize people to move to a place that's more friendly to their economic ideas.
01:50:19.000You also, but one of the fundamental kind of ideas here that's flawed how many times can you vote yourself the wealth of those above you before they have no more wealth to give you?
01:50:32.000Out east, in fact, when you see these communists, Momdani, things like this, they're going to institute all of their programs on your dime.
01:50:41.000And whenever I talk to people about wealth disparity, what's really funny to me is they always seem to think that the government can just materialize wealth without there having to be some payback for that wealth.
01:50:54.000We saw this during COVID 19 and the lockdowns.
01:50:56.000You remember they were handing out money like it was candy to various businesses that were shut down, COVID relief funds, things like this.
01:51:02.000And then they go, Inflation's out of control.
01:51:18.000And so, a lot of times, these socialists, they even try to make the promise like, hey, we're only going to tax them after this rate, but it's never enough money for them to fund their socialist programs to begin with.
01:51:29.000The government will have to materialize money.
01:51:32.000Not only that, if you give them more money, they're going to expand the government.
01:52:58.000And if you think that people should have a cap on how much money they make based on what arbitrary numbers that you come up with in your own head, well,
01:53:09.000you're going to exclude any extraordinary outliers from creating incredible products, massive companies.
01:53:16.000Yeah, maybe it's nuts that someone wants to be a trillionaire.
01:55:00.000He's been on the podcast a couple of times.
01:55:01.000But he was talking about the blue zones.
01:55:03.000You know those blue zones where, as you light a cigarette, where everybody lives to be 100 because they only eat vegetarian or they eat shellfish and Japanese?
01:55:38.000And so he was on a podcast recently and he was talking about it and just laying it out, like laying out all the various details.
01:55:45.000A lot of it in Okinawa in particular, where it is one of the hotbeds, one of the blue zones, it's when people die, they don't report it to the government.
01:56:10.000So you have unreported numbers, and then you have massive amounts of fraud where people are profiting off of the fact that their dead grandpa is still getting a check in the mail, and so they don't report him as dead.
01:58:25.000I mean, you would want it sourced from like an ethical farmer where you can watch him milk his cows, where it's not like some fucking machine where the cow's like got its head in a harness and then just yanking on its tits.
01:58:37.000You know, if you go to a real regenerative farm and you buy milk from them, it's like the cows don't mind being milked.
02:00:31.000It's apparently got like this sickly, sweet smell to it, and these rats get around the lip and then they fall into the bottom and they can't get out.
02:00:40.000It's just like, yeah, it's like a vase.
02:00:44.000And they fall into this fucking thing, and the plant eats rats.
02:02:47.000That's what I say when people say, you know, they get upset at me that I hunt.
02:02:51.000I go, The way that elk is dying when I shoot it with a bow and arrow is infinitely better than the way it's going to die when its teeth wear down to nothing and then it gets like emaciated where it can't escape.
02:03:03.000And then the coyotes get it, or a mountain lion gets it, or a bear gets it, or a wolf gets it.
02:03:09.000Like an arrow through the pump station is the best way to go.
02:04:38.000In California, you know, they have like the Department of Fish and Game.
02:04:42.000California calls it the Department of Fish and Wildlife.
02:04:45.000And they were kind of infiltrated by animal activists.
02:04:51.000And that's how they've sort of morphed their policies in California.
02:04:56.000And so that's why they have a mountain lion problem.
02:04:58.000They don't want to admit they have a mountain lion problem, but they have a mountain lion problem.
02:05:01.000And one of the problems is they don't control the population of the mountain lions.
02:05:04.000And their idea is they want the animals to control each other.
02:05:08.000So instead of encouraging hunting, ideally, they would like the mountain lions to get the deer down to a number where people can't hunt them ethically because their populations are in danger.
02:05:18.000Yeah, but you would have to have so many mountain lions to do it.
02:05:53.000That's the, I think I told you when the DNR in Michigan, it's the same type of organization, the Department of Natural Resources, in order to control the deer population, their infinite wisdom, they started importing Western coyotes,
02:06:06.000which was not a thing that you saw in the Midwest.
02:06:11.000Before, like, you know, 30, 40 years ago.
02:06:13.000Oh, yeah, they imported them from out west hunts.
02:06:47.000And they started, there's plenty of cottontail for them to eat, and there's plenty of rabbits for them to eat.
02:06:52.000Again, not doing a great job on controlling the deer population, these coyotes.
02:06:56.000They have an all-you-can-eat buffet with other things, including your cat, including your cat, right?
02:07:01.000Including your smaller pets, just like the mountain lion issue.
02:07:04.000So, what they finally did to try to get the deer population down was what everybody had suggested from the beginning: just issue more tags and make the out-of-state tags cheaper.
02:07:15.000And then people will come in, but you have all the animal rights going to come out.
02:08:06.000Because California, one of the things they did where their bear population has exploded because they stopped bear hunting with dogs, which is the only way to get them either baiting or dogs.
02:09:49.000Now they have a giant feral cat problem in Australia to the point where bow hunting magazines in Australia, they have fucking cats in them.
02:09:56.000Like a guy holding a house cat up that he shot with a bow and arrow.
02:11:54.000They're used to crocodiles and fucking poisonous spiders and poisonous snakes and especially those dudes that live out in the, you know, In the bush, as they say.
02:12:02.000Well, he says that the Aboriginals, he tells me all the stories of the Aboriginals when they have their coming of age, they'll just buy warm beer and then they go out to the middle of the desert with warm beer and they'll just drink for weeks, months, warm beer.
02:12:16.000That's what they spend their government checks on because a lot of that stuff is considered occupied land, right?
02:12:22.000The Australian government made deals with the Aboriginals to have a lot of that land.
02:12:27.000So they give them a percentage, right?
02:12:29.000They give them like monthly payments, kind of like what we do with the Native Americans here.
02:12:33.000And he's like, and what they do is they'll take their whole government cheese check, fill an entire car with warm beer for their coming of age, go out to the middle of the desert and just drink for months.
02:13:07.000Oh man, what I'm about to show you is going to make you laugh to death.
02:13:12.000There's a song which was made by the Australian government for the Aboriginals about how you shouldn't drink or sniff petrol, gasoline, from a can.
02:13:24.000I'm not kidding, you can pull it up right now.
02:16:11.000Turns out that White Eye comes in and still gets most of the proceeds from those casinos.
02:16:16.000Somebody comes in and bankrolls it and sets it up, and they get a nice check and they don't have to work again, but that guy gets fucking stinking rich.
02:17:15.000Well, and overwhelmingly now people go, okay, I'm going to go to Vegas or I'm going to go to Laughlin or I'm going to go to a place like this.
02:17:22.000I'm bringing the exact amount of money that I can lose.
02:18:12.000Oklahoma surpassed Connecticut as second in the United States for gaming revenue, according to Alan Meister, an economist with Nathan Associates, Inc.
02:21:01.000It's also wanting to be right and to win versus like having a really well thought out perspective that you want to argue, you know, like or debate or just communicate.
02:21:14.000It's always this ego thing where people are trying to win, and in doing so, they fall into these like really obvious traps, easy ones, too.
02:21:23.000That's one of the things that when we first talked about doing another podcast, I said, I want to talk to you about.
02:21:27.000Because you're very logical in your approach to these things.
02:21:30.000And so many people are so bad at being logical.
02:22:56.000And one of the reasons I do so many debates is because I do think that I'm speaking to the audience from my worldview, why I think it's perhaps superior to this guy's or the things I'm advocating for, better or worse.
02:23:08.000With Dave, he's doing the same thing, he's advocating his worldview.
02:23:12.000I think the difference there, the distinction was that he was surprised and he kind of asked me about it.
02:23:16.000And I said, Look, the reason is because you're a good debater and you've gotten better as time has gone on.
02:23:24.000And if you're going to represent your view, I want you to be the best at representing that view because that's how you determine which worldview people end up going with.
02:23:33.000This is why so many people have moved towards Christianity and Christian ethics, seeing the religious debates has a lot to do with that, with the various ideas.
02:23:43.000In worldview being expanded, and then the kind of graciousness, even after the debate, of trying to help the other person with their view.
02:23:51.000That's very cool, and that would be nice if most people used that framework to have discussions.
02:24:00.000It's just, and again, it's like it's a part of what we're talking about that there's this whole commodity of attention, and there's a lot of attention on dunking on people and shitting on people and being mean, and people love that stuff for whatever reason.
02:24:16.000I'm not always that charitable when it comes to progressives or leftists, the people who I consider responsible for many of the most horrific things in society socially that we deal with.
02:25:14.000And so you see many progressives who have this kind of justification, and that leads to A huge amount of political violence, which becomes normalized because they justify it through the lens of I'm stopping a monster.
02:25:30.000I've never thought these people see me as a human being.
02:25:35.000I think that they see me, most of them, at least the ones I debate with, as an actual monster who's trying to take or destroy them or hurt them in some way.
02:25:46.000And so, from my view, that's what it always seems like coming this direction is that.
02:26:08.000And then, of course, they're in the echo chamber of the people that also support that ideology, and they're all like agreeing that this is okay and that this is acceptable and this violence is acceptable and all these different things.
02:26:22.000It's really, it's kind of daunting because you're just like, when does this dust settle?
02:26:28.000When do people just like relax and start having actual conversations on both sides?
02:26:35.000Like, when do people just do what you and Dave did and just find out why a person thinks what they think and what the actual facts of what they're saying are and whether or not your worldview is distorted or compatible?
02:26:51.000You know, like Christian ethics living inside of libertarianism, from my view, is way better than trying to make Christian ethics compatible with progressive ideology.
02:27:01.000And so, if I have to pick between a guy governing like Mamdani or a guy who holds the ideology like Dave Smith, I'm picking Dave Smith's ideology.
02:27:16.000Somebody's going to be in charge of the state, no matter what.
02:27:20.000I'm going to try to pick the ideology that's closest to my own.
02:27:25.000If you're going to be in charge of the state, I definitely want you to at least be representing the values that I have while you're in charge of it.
02:27:32.000And the values of being legitimately charitable and a pathway to redemption, which doesn't exist as progressives, which is really a problem because they keep.
02:27:41.000Pushing the goalposts and eating their own.
02:27:43.000They keep going further and further left and attacking people for not being left enough.
02:27:47.000And like you get cast out of the community.
02:27:49.000You get excommunicated for my, I mean, how many people were excommunicated during COVID for just not going along with the government's narrative on pharmaceutical drugs being injected in your body absent your consent?
02:28:05.000They wanted to inject the jabby stabby into you.
02:28:09.000YouTube even censored opposition to it for a long time.
02:28:12.000I think there's a real problem with people that don't have an ethical framework or a moral framework that's just arbitrary.
02:28:18.000And they don't have a religious foundation.
02:28:21.000Yeah, that's where I always describe it as whether you believe in Christ or not, it's an awesome framework, like a scaffolding for being a good person.
02:28:30.000You could follow that guy's teachings.
02:28:32.000There's no flaws in it, especially Jesus.
02:28:34.000There's not one thing that you point to.
02:28:37.000There's a few guys in religion that you could point to and go, yeah, well, He married a nine year old.
02:28:43.000Like, hey, that seems a little fucked.
02:28:45.000Hey, he said he could kill the infidels.
02:29:15.000So, baked into that is not only redemption.
02:29:18.000It's not only the idea of salvation, but it gives you a value to move towards.
02:29:24.000And what's missing often from the progressive ideology, from the secular ideology or the atheist ideology, how do you give a person a moral ought if you are the ultimate arbiter of all that is moral because it just comes down to your preference?
02:29:39.000How do we determine who the ultimate arbiter now is?
02:29:44.000Well, it usually just comes down to you and whatever your preferences are.
02:29:47.000And so, what are we moving towards exactly?
02:29:49.000How do we make the determination that you're in error?
02:29:51.000You're not moving towards this greater value?
02:29:54.000What you do is you're establishing a new, non defined religion that could be moved and changed based on the wins.
02:30:02.000And depending on who's the most radical and the most charismatic that's in charge of whatever that movement is at the time, eat the rich, whatever it is.
02:30:35.000In the first few minutes of the debate, in my opening statement, because I brought up this glaring contradiction in his worldview, I said, Why should he?
02:30:43.000So he was dating a trans person, he's dating a trans person, but he says he's not gay, right?
02:30:48.000So I'm not gay, but I'm dating a trans person.
02:30:50.000So I brought this up and I said, The way that we can assess truth claims, I can just point an easy one out of how we can assess that maybe this isn't a good way to evaluate truth claims, right?
02:31:01.000Because he says he's in a non homosexual relationship with a trans woman.
02:31:07.000And reconciles that by saying, No, that's a real woman.
02:31:10.000And I'm like, If we can't even distinguish what's real and what's true, how could he even have it?
02:32:14.000It's the Amsterdam Secular Humanist Manifesto.
02:32:18.000And essentially, it just comes down to these arbitrary preferences around we're just kind of for things that make you feel good and kind of against things that make us not feel so good.
02:32:30.000Now, that's the biggest oversimplification in the world, but it really does just kind of reduce to that.
02:32:35.000And so, one of the ways that you can always kind of endlessly beat these guys about the head and shoulders with their own ideologies is just point this out.
02:32:45.000Like, which one of you gets to make this determination that this is the ought that I should follow based on anything other than your preferences?
02:32:54.000And the idea always is well, it wouldn't just be my preference.
02:32:57.000It'd be the preference of many people, but don't those change?
02:33:58.000And there are actual fail safes in the Bible that prevent people from writing new Bibles, right?
02:34:04.000The entirety of the message of Christ in and of itself, this is what Christian ethics is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ, the teachings of the scriptures.
02:34:15.000But it always gives us a thing to move towards.
02:34:18.000And that is why it creates, I think, better societies in general, better societies overall, because people always go, wait a second, I'm supposed to be moving towards this idea.
02:34:28.000If you really do follow it, it makes nice people.
02:34:31.000Like the people that I know that are like genuine real Christians are some of the nicest people I know.
02:40:02.000Yeah, and so, yeah, so you put it on, and it'll show you, it can show you different spots in time or something like this called the Chronophys.
02:40:11.000Well, you know, I'm really interested in the Ark of the Covenant that's supposedly in Ethiopia.
02:40:18.000You know, have you ever heard Graham Hancock talk about that?
02:40:48.000It's on its own, along with a couple others, but they do have more books in their Bible than the Orthodox church does in the Catholic church.
02:41:17.000But apparently, the lore is that it's this one particular church, this very old church in Ethiopia, and there is an area where they are guarding the Ark of the Covenant.
02:41:29.000And the people that are supposed to be in the room with it, they all can only do it for a couple years, and then they get horribly sick.
02:41:36.000And then they have to switch them out.
02:43:03.000But who are the people that light themselves on fire?
02:43:05.000These are people who are in the church who are specially selected to basically emulate.
02:43:11.000You know, they set themselves on fire with the holy flame from torches.
02:43:15.000And apparently, this is what I'm told, they've had people go and investigate, and they can't figure out how exactly this is being done, but they're completely on fire and they don't get hurt at all.
02:43:33.000Greek television did five candles in white phosphorus.
02:43:36.000The candle spontaneously ignited for approximately 10 minutes due to the self ignition properties of white phosphorus when in contact with the air.
02:43:45.000According to the website, it says that phosphorus is dissolved in an appropriate organic solvent.
02:43:49.000Self ignition is delayed until the solvent is completely evaporated.
02:43:52.000PETA experiments show the ignition can be delayed for half an hour or more, depending on the density of the solution.
02:43:58.000How does it stop them from catching fire, though, and dying?
02:44:02.000The same way that's probably like the, you know, the shit that people put on to make movies, you know?
02:44:09.000This motherfucker, he's always ruining everything with all his logic.
02:44:13.000I think that skepticism is great if people actually practice the real philosophical tradition of skepticism, which is you're supposed to also be skeptical of your view.
02:45:04.000That doesn't mean that they're skeptical of their own, and it's supposed to start internally.
02:45:08.000That's what made skepticism kind of something that spread widely, it was a way for people to reject parts of their own worldview that didn't fit, they didn't match, they weren't coherent, they didn't make much sense.
02:45:23.000And so, most of the time I hear skepticism, the person's not actually following the philosophy of skepticism, they're not applying it to their view first.
02:45:32.000Yeah, there's a lot of lazy skepticism, too, where they didn't outright deny.
02:45:37.000The existence of conspiracies, which is just fucking ludicrous.
02:45:42.000It's like you're just playing a very rigid corridor of ideas.
02:45:49.000You're only allowed to operate as a skeptic.
02:45:51.000Not only that, the U.S. government has thousands of laws on the books about conspiracy.
02:45:56.000So it's like our government seems to believe in them because there's conspiracy to commit racketeering, conspiracy to murder, conspiracy to commit theft, conspiracy to commit wire fraud.
02:46:05.000They clearly believe that there's a lot of conspiracies going on and definitely prosecute people for conspiracies all the time.
02:46:11.000But somehow, when it comes to the skeptic mindset, Of conspiracy.
02:46:16.000It's a lazy perspective, and it's also a perspective that falls in line with what we were talking about before, where you take a lot of legitimate conspiracies and you add a bunch of bullshit to it to make it seem completely ludicrous, and then the whole thing can be thrown out.