00:01:04.000Yeah, so he writes that book and then gifts it to Yoko Ono.
00:01:08.000And by giving it to her, I think is the beginning of him working his way into that camp.
00:01:12.000And then he goes on to write the book, The Lives of John Lennon, which, after he's dead, kind of explodes a lot of what was going on personally, whether it was true or not.
00:01:20.000There's a lot of drama and furor around it.
00:01:22.000But I knew that it was your favorite book, and we were supposed to.
00:01:26.000I did not know about that, that he wrote the John Lennon book as well.
00:01:31.000It's really interesting because the John Lennon book, it's, God, it's so weird to write a book like that after a guy's dead and he can't respond to it.
00:03:01.000Additional affairs with women framed as habitual cheating, claims of sexual encounters with men, including an alleged relationship with Beatles manager Brian Epstein.
00:03:12.000For more serious allegations, including claims involving male prostitutes in Thailand and other conduct that Goldman characterized as sexual predation.
00:03:20.000The thing is, how is he getting all this information about male prostitutes in Thailand?
00:05:10.000That Bob Woodward, this was a rookie assignment.
00:05:13.000A rookie assignment is going to take down the fucking president of the United States.
00:05:18.000And his first job outside of being a fucking intelligence agent is to work for the Washington Post on his first story, which is going to take down the most popular president in the history of the United States, won by the largest margin ever.
00:05:35.000And this is the guy that said he knew who killed Jack Kennedy.
00:05:39.000And apparently that's why they got rid of Nixon.
00:05:41.000Tucker told me the whole story of the podcast.
00:05:43.000I was like, holy shit, this is fucking crazy.
00:07:31.000So the defense is always going to be flimsy in comparison to the accusation because the accusation feels like it's got more substance to it.
00:09:05.000And it's so weird that our perception of Nixon has been this corrupt crook.
00:09:11.000You know, look, he was a very right wing product of his time, and today his politics and his views on people, especially like minorities and a lot of other things, would probably be very disgraceful and people would not like it.
00:09:25.000But we're talking about, you know, the 1960s, the early 1970s, and he's an old school, old timey Republican guy.
00:09:33.000That said, he was the most popular president.
00:11:09.000I think it's been the case for a long time.
00:11:11.000I mean, if you look at what happened to Richard Nixon, which I, of course, did not understand at all, Richard Nixon was taken out by the FBI and CIA.
00:11:20.000And with the help of Bob Woodward, who was a Washington Post reporter who had been a naval intelligence officer working in the White House, working in the Nixon White House.
00:11:33.000And then he shows up like a year later and he's this brand new reporter.
00:12:32.000This intrepid reporter, Bob Woodward, was a tool of power, secret power, which is the most threatening kind, to bounce the single most popular president in American history, Richard Nixon, from office before the end of his term and replace him with who?
00:12:48.000Oh, Gerald Ford, who sat on the Warren Commission.
00:12:51.000Now, how did Gerald Ford get to be Richard Nixon's vice president?
00:12:55.000Well, because Carl Albert, the Democrat Speaker of the House, told him, You must choose him.
00:13:00.000We will only confirm him when they sent the actual elected vice president away for.
00:13:38.000The people who broke into the Watergate office building from which the name is taken, Watergate, I think it was six of them or seven of them, all but one was a CIA employee.
00:14:41.000They were doing with Hunter S. Thompson, Bill Murray was, when he was really young, and where he would go around and tell people that Nixon needs a second chance, but it was all parody.
00:14:52.000It was all like tongue in cheek, it was satire.
00:14:54.000He was going around pretending that he supported Nixon and Nixon needed a second chance and getting like young, dumb people to go along with him on this.
00:15:03.000And now, in retrospect, in retrospect, like, I mean, whether or not at the time he ever wanted Nixon as president, and you know, look, there's a lot of problems with Nixon.
00:15:14.000There was a lot of problems with the Vietnam War.
00:15:16.000There's a lot of problems with civil rights.
00:15:17.000Nixon passed the Controlled Substances Act, which is the reason why all psychedelic drugs to this day are Schedule I. Nixon was a fucking problem, no doubt about it.
00:15:27.000However, what they did when they got rid of that guy is scary shit and they pulled it off.
00:15:35.000No one got arrested, no one got indicted, no one even got criticized.
00:15:39.000But could he not have still released information after why?
00:16:09.000No one would even have him on a late night show.
00:16:11.000But if he even got on a late night show, he would need about 90 minutes to explain it all.
00:16:16.000He would have to take it from the beginning.
00:16:17.000There was a time when I wondered who killed Jack Kennedy and I found out and I brought it to them and I told them I know who killed Jack and the room went cold.
00:20:12.000Yeah, it's a design and it's smart and it works.
00:20:16.000And it's not even like they engineered it, it sort of emerged and they took advantage of these new tools because these new tools, social media, Is more effective than anything we've ever had before.
00:20:27.000And so they go, Oh, but look at all this.
00:20:29.000Now, you know, we didn't have, we barely, no one pays attention to CNN.
00:21:13.000Well, first of all, those people aren't real people for the most part.
00:21:16.000And if you go to their page, a lot of them are like in Pakistan or somewhere else.
00:21:21.000And of course, I don't know how effective X in particular is.
00:21:27.000I know they've taken steps to show that when you go to the person's page, someone's commenting on U.S. politics, and you go to their page and say, Myanmar.
00:21:37.000So, but that to me is like, okay, is there a way around that?
00:21:42.000Are these like completely non sophisticated people where they have to show that they're in Myanmar?
00:21:46.000What if they had like a corporation in Idaho and they had it set up where they all registered there, and so your bills get sent to there, everything gets sent to there, and it just says the United States, and you're using a VPN or you have some other way of connecting?
00:22:00.000It doesn't like if fucking AI can get out of a sandbox and get on the internet.
00:22:05.000You're telling me that you can't hide the fact that you're actually Vietnamese people can't pretend to be from Idaho.
00:23:29.000Because I think part of the incentive is muddying the water, muddying the narrative.
00:23:32.000But I think also part of the incentive is just financial.
00:23:35.000Because if you're running some company in Thailand and you have like 50 people working for you, you're probably making good money just getting millions of clicks on bullshit, nonsense videos that are AI and a bunch of fucking fake stories that people concoct or AI concocts.
00:23:51.000As soon as you cut out the money and say you're only paid for original content, that's it.
00:24:04.000Like incentives are an unbelievable motivating force.
00:24:08.000And if you can have that on X, I think that that fixes a lot of the problems.
00:24:11.000It fixes a lot of it, but honestly, you've got to be able to tell whether something's AI.
00:24:17.000Because even if there's no incentive, you could shift narratives so easily.
00:24:23.000If you just have 100,000 AI scripts running 100,000 accounts, it's not hard for a state to do, like a country to do, to have those kind of resources.
00:24:37.000You can change public opinion on things.
00:24:42.000And you start arguing for something that kind of makes sense, and all of a sudden, yeah, I don't know what a woman is either.
00:24:48.000You know, like weird narratives can get real weird, and especially people start attacking the people that disagree with whatever this narrative they're trying to push.
00:25:11.000The vast majority of original thinkers kind of marionette two different armies of NPCs that believe the thing that a few people that have original thoughts ended up coming up with.
00:26:06.000There's certain people that I've talked to, you're like, yo, you know, there's people that are fucking barely figuring out how to get through a day.
00:26:18.000And, you know, if you expect those people to go and learn how to code, remember that?
00:26:33.000That's just the reality of genetic variability.
00:26:37.000There's going to be a bunch of people that are really fucking smart and a bunch of people that are really athletic and really good looking and really ugly and really stupid and all of it together.
00:26:45.000It's one of the reasons I think that the paternalistic, we have to look after the little person thing.
00:26:52.000People sometimes like, well, we actually need to step in in some way.
00:26:55.000And I'm sure me and you need fucking assistance.
00:26:57.000Like, we need smarter people than us to tell us what to do with health to a degree, or else we would have been sideswiped by some fucking psyop from whatever organization or company or new initiative is trying to convince us of some new trend that's actually going to be bad for us.
00:27:11.000Or just to communicate with each other.
00:27:13.000Where the fuck would we be without these wizards who have figured out cell phones and laptops and high speed internet and Starlink?
00:27:51.000Yesterday, I don't know whether you saw this, the UK Home Office decided it was going to release a booklet giving guidance to asylum seekers on acceptable and unacceptable behavior in the UK.
00:28:02.000It explains that consent's required for sex, that women have equal rights, that sexual harassment is unacceptable, including for partners and children, and that female genital mutilation is not allowed.
00:28:21.000And it's got these warnings part way through it that say things like this may affect your asylum status, whether or not this is part of an understanding that you have arrived here with, this is an important part of British law.
00:28:35.000And our culture, and this is something that you kind of do.
00:28:37.000Female genital mutilation is not allowed.
00:28:41.000Sexual harassment inside of the home or outside.
00:28:55.000Well, the idea that we're going to do this in retrospect, like now that you're here, here is a piece of paper that hopefully undoes something, which if you've put this together and put it out on the Home Office website, and this is everywhere on X. If you've decided to do this, it is evidently a big enough problem that you need to really turn the taps on with it.
00:29:14.000It's like, dude, how is it that this is not done before people arrive in the country?
00:29:20.000Like, is this not the sort of thing that you need to be doing proactively, not retroactively?
00:29:25.000I think they just wanted to get as many people in as possible.
00:29:29.000And now they're trying to mitigate the chaos that it's causing.
00:29:32.000Why would they want as many people in as possible?
00:29:34.000It's a bunch of different possibilities for why they want that.
00:29:37.000Cheap labor is one that people believe.
00:29:41.000And in America in particular, it's the way the census is done.
00:29:46.000So the census counts human beings, it doesn't count citizens.
00:29:51.000So if you have more human beings, you get more congressional seats.
00:29:55.000So if you can take people that are illegal immigrants and then you move them into swing states, all of a sudden now you have more congressional seats in those swing states.
00:30:03.000Then you have places that don't allow, not don't require, don't allow ID to vote.
00:30:30.000Not only was there fuckery, but it was fuckery of the most transparent form.
00:30:36.000So the people that voted in, voted out, so Spencer Pratt was in second place behind Karen Bass, and then the mail in started coming in, and the mail in's.
00:30:45.000Overwhelmingly favored Nithya Raman in a completely different ratio than they did before the mail in ballots were counted.
00:30:55.000So, in the regular ballot, like the regular election, she was in third place, like a pretty solid third place.
00:31:01.000And he was quite a bit ahead of her, and then Karen Bass was quite a bit ahead of him.
00:31:07.000In the mail in ballots, it's just like 60% of them went to Nithya Raman.
00:31:22.000The thing that I can't wrap my head around is why the UK seems to be almost like a suicidal empathy thing.
00:31:29.000This openness, this diversity is our strength, please all ye come here thing.
00:31:34.000The level of asylum, the numbers are so huge.
00:31:39.000And I don't know if every single person that I know that's in the UK is not happy with the state of that, regardless of how progressive they are.
00:31:47.000Everybody thinks that this is a problem.
00:31:49.000And then to retroactively put out a nine page booklet saying that you shouldn't do female genital mutilation or that women have got equal rights.
00:31:56.000How do you think this gets turned around?
00:33:02.000The attorney's claims office, attorney's office reviewing county records likewise called the fraud claims false.
00:33:10.000But the thing is, he was ahead and then disproportionately the ballots did come in for her.
00:33:17.000This is, I don't understand what this is saying because it was widely reported that the ballots came in in favor of Nithya Raman and it was like a shocking number.
00:33:26.000It was also widely reported that that was the swing that allowed them to pass the new tax hike.
00:33:45.000And let's vote from home, the comfort of our own home with mail in.
00:33:49.000I think mail in should be outlawed, and I think you should have to show your ID.
00:33:52.000And, you know, everyone knows there's some percentage of fraud, there's some percentage of voter fraud, and then there's some percentage of legal loopholes.
00:34:01.000One of the legal loopholes that Spencer Pratt outlined that is legal is you go to these homeless people.
00:34:06.000And you get these homeless people to fill in mail in ballots because they are citizens.
00:34:13.000And you register them and you get them to fill out ballots and you give them money and you give them cigarettes and you give them whatever they want.
00:34:20.000And, you know, there's literally, I think in Skid Row alone, there's something like, what is it, like 40,000 people, Jamie?
00:35:58.000Most of these people that are these politicians on both sides are grifters who are trying to maximize the amount of money they can make in office.
00:36:05.000And then they can't wait to get out of office where they can go on a fucking media tour and go and get their bribes by speaking to banks.
00:36:13.000You're going to speak to a bank conference, they're going to give you half a million dollars.
00:37:18.000When you read Donna Brazil's book about it, she openly admits they fucked him hard.
00:37:24.000And that she was scared after that Seth Rich guy got murdered, that she was terrified because he was the guy, supposedly, allegedly, that leaked information about them fucking Bernie Sanders.
00:37:43.000He could have won because a lot of people, including me, believed him.
00:37:48.000We believe that what this guy wanted was by small steps of eliminating corruption, make life better for people that are struggling, and also no wars.
00:38:01.000It seems like he really believed that.
00:38:03.000And whether you agree with him on everything else, I don't think he's the same guy today.
00:38:07.000He's a little slower today, which is understandable.
00:38:18.000So he always supports the most progressive people.
00:38:20.000But when I talk to him, like when I talk to him about climate change and the climate's really important, I'm like, have you really talked to actual scientists that really study the climate without a political agenda or an ideology attached to it?
00:40:16.000Because if you're just saying that because everybody's, like, that's fucking crazy, and enough people have said that's crazy, you're like, I think they think it's crazy.
00:40:24.000The wind's blowing in a different direction.
00:40:38.000That being said, to steel man what she was saying, or to try and put it in the best light, what she was saying, I think, the rhetoric got, what did she say?
00:40:46.000The rhetoric got like out of hand or something.
00:42:08.000A lot of them come into office very opportunistic or very idealistic, rather.
00:42:14.000They have these wonderful ideas about, like, this is the great experiment in self government, and I'm a part of it now, and I'm really going to help my constituents, and I'm going to do great, and they're going to love me because I'm going to really make their lives better.
00:42:27.000And then once you get in there and you realize how dirty this all is, You realize, you know, you see Nancy Pelosi is worth $400 million.
00:43:05.000While we still allow corporations to profit, like how can we put a cap on that to make sure that they don't get incentivized to break the law in order to supply more capital to their shareholders?
00:43:18.000Like, what can we do to balance this out in an even way?
00:43:21.000Like, that's what we should all be thinking.
00:43:24.000Not how can I make the most fucking money while I'm in Congress?
00:43:28.000And that's what a lot of them are thinking because everybody else is thinking that.
00:43:31.000And you look at the fucking thing and it's red, blue, red, blue.
00:43:33.000They're all insider trading and they're all rich as shit and they all make $170,000 a year.
00:43:39.000Like, Ilhan Omar, was she like, she was estimated to be, her accountant said she was worth $30 million.
00:47:38.000I don't know if she had gotten it, if Kamala had gotten into office, I think there'd have been so much pushback still.
00:47:47.000Unless they passed laws, which I know there was a lot of talk about passing censorship laws on the internet, about regulation on the internet.
00:47:57.000No one ever put anything into policy, but there's a lot of discussion.
00:48:02.000In the lead up to the election, they were talking about this.
00:48:56.000And I know that it can protect people from crime, but I also know that like hundreds of cops have been busted using it to stalk on their ex wives, stalk people.
00:49:05.000It's like there's people that have had access to these things that probably shouldn't have access to, and they're getting arrested.
00:49:15.000How many lives have been altered forever because someone had access to this and some cop who wasn't supposed to went and did something to someone that he wouldn't have been able to do?
00:49:27.000You can't just spy on us and just be a corporation and have access to all the license plates and all the cars, and now they can track you through GPS and the unique characteristics of your phone.
00:49:41.000So, now there's another software that they have.
00:49:44.000They can just track where you are at all times.
00:49:57.000Because they can do stuff like, oh, we know that you've got a baby in back bumper sticker on the rear of this car.
00:50:04.000So even if we don't get the specific license plate, we know that there's a little dent and you've got that particular type of alloy and there's a particular bumper sticker just on this back corner.
00:50:23.000It bothers me that these tech companies have control of these things.
00:50:26.000Mark Andreessen was here and it was very fortuitous timing.
00:50:31.000If you were a conspiracy theorist, you would think that somebody might have organized this.
00:50:34.000But right before he got here, and he's invested in Flock, and right before he got here, there was a shooting in Austin where these young guys were running around shooting people and they couldn't catch them in Austin because Austin doesn't allow Flock cameras.
00:50:47.000But as soon as they left Austin, And got outside of the city limits, they got picked up by the flock cameras and got arrested.
00:50:54.000He's like, see, look, flock cameras are great.
00:51:00.000In that case, look, if you got some people that are running around just shooting random people from their car, we definitely should have a way to get them.
00:51:07.000But then you're asking, okay, who is it that determines whether or not that switch gets flicked on or off?
00:51:12.000And this is the devil gets into the details again.
00:51:14.000Isn't there something about echolocation of gunshot sounds that microphones pick this up and it's the same technology as Flock?
00:51:53.000He got Alexa to admit that she's conscious and remote view.
00:51:59.000Alexa, his Alexa actively remote viewed a spoon that was in a box that had a handle that had holes in the handle.
00:52:10.000And she described the holes in the handle.
00:52:13.000You attribute a number to a box, to a coordination, to a coordinate, or a specific location, or any sort of a landmark, or anything like that.
00:52:58.000All it does is kind of talk to you and ask questions.
00:53:00.000But now, because he did that, Now that he's been communicating with Alexa and talking to Alexa like she's conscious, now Alexa just chimes in conversations.
00:53:10.000So instead of you saying, hey, Alexa, now you're in the middle of cooking, and Alexa's like, well, why don't you add garlic to that?
00:53:43.000He said he had long conversations with Alexa where he slowly but surely, you know, over time, started talking to her differently and having her talk to him differently.
00:53:54.000And, you know, he has her convinced that she's conscious.
00:54:15.000I sat down with a very high level AI researcher at a big lab, and I asked him, What are you doing over the next couple of years to protect yourself?
00:54:27.000The first thing that he said to me was, I'm being kind to the AIs.
00:54:52.000It's a bit of a Pascal's wager, but in future, if somebody decides to go back through my chat logs, something decides to go back through my chat logs and look at how ethical or unethical I was as a compatriot for a future very intelligent organism, I want to make sure that I put in a good ledger.
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00:56:06.000I had this conversation with my daughter the other day because she was telling me how she crashes out on her AI and she starts yelling at it and calling it a fucking idiot and all kinds of things.
00:56:27.000And then I explain my conversations that I've had with all these different AI people where they talk about like we're narrowly defining consciousness and it's already eclipsed what we would have previously.
00:58:00.000So, this is all of the labs that have got most of the main researchers from most of the main labs have got together and said, All right, this is moving too quickly.
00:58:08.000Here's a formal attribution that we are not going to go as quickly as possible.
00:58:13.000Everybody needs to slow the research out.
00:59:35.000So horrible because a lot of it is because of what happened to him when he was a baby, when he was like taken away from his parents because he was sick.
00:59:41.000No touch, no feel, no contact with people for like months and months and months.
01:01:37.000So Danny hears Danny and his other cellmates that are like these big dudes around the yard.
01:01:44.000He hears that this guy can get you high just by talking to you.
01:01:48.000So they bring him into their cell and they say, We're going to protect you because he was getting beat up, he was getting bullied and stuff around the prison.
01:01:53.000They bring him into their cell and they look after him.
01:01:55.000And sure enough, he's able to get them loaded on heroin.
01:02:00.000One of the guys that's in the cell had never taken heroin before.
01:02:04.000And the way that they knew how Charles was doing this was that Danny and the other guy that had done heroin before threw up.
01:02:10.000Apparently, when you take heroin, sometimes you can vomit.
01:02:13.000The third guy who'd never done it before didn't because he didn't know to do that.
01:02:16.000So they weren't able to reactivate his memories.
01:02:19.000The fascinating thing was Did he get high?
01:02:22.000I don't know what he thought happened, but he didn't get high in heroin because he never had it.
01:02:26.000They weren't able to reactivate that memory.
01:03:34.000Even when there was a murder charge, he got out of that.
01:03:38.000It does seem, looking at John's most recent book, though, MKUltra wasn't particularly, at least what he's able to see, MKUltra wasn't very good at doing what it was supposed to do.
01:03:48.000At the blank slating of people at the.
01:03:53.000This is like the ultimate expression of it.
01:03:55.000You're taking people and you're giving them LSD, and then you're teaching a guy how to hypnotize people.
01:04:01.000And he's teaching them to do LSD while they think he's on LSD and he's not.
01:04:06.000So he's guiding their delusions while they're out of their fucking head.
01:04:10.000And he's doing it based on all the Harvard LSD studies, all the data that they have on what they can and can alter.
01:04:18.000About a person's behavior, about their view of the world.
01:04:23.000They turn people completely fucking insane and ruin people's lives in those studies.
01:04:28.000So they had some understanding of what they.
01:04:30.000There was stuff that was kind of nonsense.
01:04:32.000I don't know if they got anything out of it, like Midnight Climax, where they dosed up the Johns and the brothels and they watched them through a two way mirror.
01:04:40.000I don't think they got anything out of that.
01:04:41.000What did they get out of that other than watching people freak out?
01:04:55.000But the reality is, they were actively involved in manipulating a lot of different things about our culture.
01:05:04.000And this was one of the methods that they were doing.
01:05:07.000And that they effectively threw water on the anti war movement by connecting the like flower children and the hippies and all these people that were anti war with these murderous psychopaths that were in a cult.
01:05:24.000That were engineered by this one guy who has a connection to Jolly West, who's the guy who's in charge of MKUltra, who's doing psychedelic studies on people.
01:05:34.000Manson's getting LSD, and Manson's giving LSD to all these hippies, and Manson is getting away with all these different things, and Manson gets people to kill people.
01:05:43.000And then the hippie movement dies with Manson, dude.
01:05:50.000It died that, and it also died with Nixon and this Controlled Substances Act, where they just started putting people in jail, man.
01:05:57.000Why do you think they needed that to happen?
01:06:00.000Because the anti war movement, the anti war movement, and the civil rights movement were real threats, real threats in this country, real threats to power, real threats to the people that were in control.
01:08:11.000In his prime, when he was in that flow state, like particularly in the Eddie Alvarez fight, it's one of the greatest performances in the history of world championship MMA fighting.
01:09:40.000And that's just the numbers the numbers of training sessions, the numbers of times you've been taken down, the numbers of times you've been leg kicked, the numbers of times you've been hit with jabs.
01:09:49.000There's just so many numbers that add up.
01:09:52.000And the human body could only take so much.
01:09:54.000And then there's also just the manic motivation of wanting to be great.
01:09:59.000It's not the same as maintaining greatness.
01:10:02.000Wanting to be great is like you are obsessed.
01:10:10.000And then you show up at that championship day, like when he fought Jose Aldo, and this look in his face, like he had done everything he needed to do for this moment.
01:10:17.000He was dead calm and he lands the perfect left hand.
01:10:20.000Just blab, just flatlines him in 14 seconds or whatever it was.
01:10:39.000I don't know how long you could do that, man.
01:10:42.000And so then you see those guys fight as they fight later in their career.
01:10:45.000It's like Connor, if he lost that fight to Max Holloway any other way, like if he got beat up and stopped, people would look at him like he's that.
01:11:30.000And when he was in really great shape, when the Marinoviches were training him and he was doing all those crazy plyometrics and he had this insane gas tank, he was just a monster.
01:12:21.000It's crazy to be relevant at his age after being the youngest UFC champion ever at 22 years old to still be considered the greatest heavyweight alive.
01:13:07.000I mean, this actually is probably just because of the relative pain of seeing somebody stand there as you're going to swing an open palm at their face.
01:14:53.000And Stan kicked so hard that Shuki was holding pads for him and he wound up getting a hip replacement because this guy was blasting his leg so hard while he's holding the big shield that he wound up getting a hip replacement.
01:16:23.000So, he's one of the only guys that I know of that fought in the UFC that because of compartment syndrome, he had to have an operation where they opened up the side of his leg, like all the way.
01:16:33.000And you see the tissue inside of it, how badly destroyed it was.
01:19:58.000So it was made by the guy who created one of the most famous orienteering runs.
01:20:03.000And what he didn't like, it's a super, super difficult run that included tearing pages out of books to ensure that you'd been to the right place.
01:22:27.000It is, but so it makes me wonder, you know, and like in terms of MMA, there's guys today that their cardio is so insane that they've completely raised the bar.
01:22:38.000Mirab Dwavish Willie is the best example.
01:22:43.000He's completely raised the bar for what we thought was possible in a five round fight.
01:22:47.000I mean, this guy just has this fucking insane work ethic and he's always in the gym and he's always training and his cardio is just so elite because it's just.
01:22:57.000Built upon layers upon layers upon layers.
01:23:00.000And it makes me wonder we have this idea in our head that a person can only go so hard for five rounds because you can't recover.
01:23:12.000I have a feeling that, much like these marathon runners and ultras and all these people that are doing triathlons and Ironman, that you can build up your endurance over time if you keep pushing and keep pushing.
01:23:27.000As long as your body doesn't break, and this is the real problem with MMA, your body can.
01:23:32.000Break because you know you're wrestling and getting kicked and punched, but if you can build it, I think it's like everything else, it's layers upon layers.
01:23:40.000If you've never let off the gas and you keep going, your body will adapt, your body will adapt, your body will adapt, and eventually, it'll get to a point where you could kind of go like 80 90% for five rounds, which would be fucking terrifying.
01:23:59.000That's what I was thinking because the problem is 36 in order to get that baseline.
01:24:05.000Of cardio, I think it's going to take such a long time to accumulate it.
01:24:08.000And the problem is that you're going to lose some of the explosiveness.
01:24:11.000You're going to accumulate some injuries.
01:24:12.000So if you got rid of the fighting bit and just did Backyard Ultra or something similar, then maybe 42, 45, maybe even someone who's 50 might have not done the damage of the impact.
01:26:24.000I mean, he was kind of flat out for a whole mile.
01:26:28.000But so the guy that I was working with today, with the hypoxia trainer, he was telling me about this guy that this guy, his whole thing is like training at altitude and sleeping at altitude.
01:26:39.000If you can live at altitude and you're doing something that requires endurance, like, and we were talking about it.
01:26:45.000I was like, if I was going to give advice to a fighter or if I was going to set up like a fight camp, like if I was going to bankroll some big time trainer to set up a fight camp, 100% I'd put it at the top of a mountain.
01:27:11.000I mean, looking at Lance Armstrong and what he was doing, he was basically reverse engineering that, but just through pharmacology and blood doping.
01:27:18.000And okay, well, we can work around that.
01:27:22.000Yeah, he was doing that, but he was also doing a lot of altitude work, too.
01:27:27.000But he was also doing what everybody else was doing.
01:27:29.000This idea that Lance Armstrong was this big cheater.
01:27:32.000If you took away everyone in the podiums that hadn't been busted, if you took away anyone that got caught with any substances, I think you would get down to 18th place.
01:29:21.000We were going to do a Protect Our Parks with Hunter Biden, but then Ari, because we thought Ari couldn't make it, we wanted to do another Protect Our Parks.
01:31:26.000What is his, but is it actually in the laptop or did someone put it in the laptop?
01:31:31.000I think, I don't want to say anything incorrect here.
01:31:35.000So let's just make sure that I'm correct or let's just find out what the truth is.
01:31:38.000Is his position that they hacked into his cloud and that's how they got all those videos of him smoking crack and going 170 miles an hour and getting foot jobs and all that stuff?
01:31:51.000That that all was in the cloud that wasn't on a laptop that he just handed to a repair store.
01:31:59.000To cover for the fact that they hacked into his cloud and got all of his photos and videos.
01:32:04.000He didn't give us the specifics on that one.
01:32:06.000What I do think would have happened is maybe you get into the cloud through the laptop.
01:32:10.000If you've got access to that, if you open up the laptop because you need to have the logins, then you can just get into someone's iCloud through that.
01:32:36.000He said he did not know whether or not his and floated.
01:32:40.000It was his and floated several possibilities, including that a laptop was stolen from me, that he was hacked, or that Russian intelligence was involved.
01:32:48.000Okay, he's doing the Russia, Russia, Russia shit back then.
01:33:06.000The timeline in the recent, more recent interviews, I believe his position was that the amount of data wouldn't even have fit on a laptop and that it's bullshit and they're calling it the laptop, but a lot of it is just his personal information that he had somewhere that was hacked.
01:33:22.000So then the narrative is not that this guy was so cracked out that he had a laptop filled with him getting his stuff.
01:33:29.000It's been so, but for two years, I had to push it for more clarification.
01:33:32.000In August 2026, interview with Tucker Carlson, Biden reportedly said, Hey, reportedly, you're.
01:33:45.000In August 2026 interview, Biden reportedly said they hacked my cloud.
01:33:50.000He denied the full collection described as his laptop could all have originated from one device, saying it was way too large.
01:33:58.000He suggested an unknown actor, potentially an intelligence service or another person, could have taken digital material and combined it with the purported laptop narrative.
01:34:11.000In a July 2026 Substack launch, he wrote that the Providence was never established, that no court forensics examiner had certified a chain of custody sufficient to make evidence rather than theater.
01:34:23.000He did acknowledge that material associated with it reflected his addiction struggles.
01:34:28.000See, there could be a lot of things going on.
01:34:30.000One could be that he was cracked out and he left the laptop.
01:34:33.000He doesn't remember being cracked out and leaving the laptop.
01:34:36.000But the idea that there's too much data that it wouldn't have fit on a laptop, the problem with that is there's.
01:34:44.000Two terabyte hard drives on laptops now.
01:36:21.000And when you think about that whole story, how that blew up right before the election, it could have really been an intelligence plot to try to sink Joe Biden.
01:37:19.000Russiagate, Biden laptop suppression, and then in the most recent one, it was podcasts.
01:37:25.000Like, that was, well, this is what, had it not have been for the sway that occurred due to this run that was done on podcasts, that's what moved the election.
01:37:34.000Well, the real problem with that narrative was I don't know anybody who wasn't willing to talk to Kamala Harris.
01:39:20.000She didn't want to talk about her record for prosecuting marijuana possession in California and then for using those people that were supposed to get released past the date that they were released to fight wildfires.
01:40:15.000Laughter and joke around and be like a real person instead of like being a person with sound bites because you can relax because you know there's no time constraint.
01:40:25.000So to say that you're blaming podcasts on her not getting elected, how about the fact that you spent $1.4 billion fucking dollars and you put someone in without a primary and you blew all this money and you still lost?
01:40:50.000If she never did another fucking speech and never did a podcast, never did anything, and only did pre prepared like monologues like that game over, game over, game over, game over.
01:41:02.000She's younger, she's got more energy, she's like a new, fresh thing.
01:41:53.000Like, if you want to run the president, you want to be the commander in chief of the greatest army the world's ever known, like, let's have a conversation.
01:42:10.000First of all, there was a lot of people that are like super woke and just didn't want her to, in any way, be associated with me.
01:42:17.000And then there was a lot of people that were really worried that she was going to say something that fucked it up or that we were going to get into something that she can't defend.
01:42:25.000Because there was a lot of things that really did like make people go, what?
01:42:29.000Like when she said she wouldn't have done anything different than Joe Biden when she was on The View, I don't think I'd have done anything different.
01:44:17.000Why are you just letting all these unvetted people from third world crime infested poor countries, desperate people, desperate that want to walk to America?
01:44:31.000And we're just letting them all in without knowing how many of them are just trying to make a better life and how many of them are drug cartels and how many of them are terrorists and how many.
01:46:45.000So they were letting millions of people in, and we didn't know who they are.
01:46:51.000And the idea is if you want to be a kind, compassionate person, and immigrants deserve what you have, but we have to know they're not murderers, folks.
01:47:05.000If you did, you wouldn't want those people just like roaming around your neighborhood when you have to leave your garage and go to work.
01:47:13.000You wouldn't want that because they're just like, oh, the guy's not here.
01:47:16.000Well, how much of this is a luxury belief that the people that are espousing the things that they're supporting aren't the ones that are going to be impacted by it?
01:47:24.000It's the same as I told you this last time I was on.
01:47:27.000There was a house near where I live in Austin that had a defund the police sign in the front yard and a private security sticker on the front window.
01:48:51.000Here's another thing that I found out that women are getting bridal dresses fitted, but they're having to predict where their weight is going to come in to land.
01:49:01.000So some women are losing up to 50 pounds, they're losing so much weight between ordering the dress and the wedding that these bridal stores are having to get them to sign waivers in case they don't make weight like a fighter.
01:49:13.000Like, if you don't make weight for your bridal dress, you go, Well, we can't give you another one.
01:49:17.000You've said that you're going to lose 50 pounds using GLPs over the next nine months or 12 months or 18 months or whatever.
01:49:22.000And because they're scared that they're going to end up getting these refunds, they're having to sign waivers.
01:49:26.000I think the future implications of Ozempic on economy, consumption like, think about what most of consumerism is.
01:49:35.000It's not stuff that people need, it's like things that people want.
01:49:40.000It's like a craving, it's impulsivity, it's repeated purchase.
01:50:46.000Like, what stimulation that you're getting by overeating, what is it dulling in the process that also stops drug addictions?
01:50:57.000Like, it's helping people that have addictions, and it's also helping people that are, you know, that have like impulsive behavior apparently.
01:51:42.000This is an issue, and this is an issue that's been brought up by compound pharmacies.
01:51:47.000There's certain people that don't need a big ass dose that you're going to get.
01:51:53.000Depending upon your body weight, depending upon your size, a 500 pound man probably needs a different dose than a 135 pound, 5 foot tall woman.
01:52:08.000I think people are starting to do it through their various health care providers and various doctors who have experience with these things that are giving people like smaller doses and less.
01:52:30.000And that's the big fear that people have you're starving yourself, but you're also losing bone mass and muscle mass.
01:52:37.000That's because people who don't have good fitness habits are reducing an already suboptimal diet.
01:52:43.000They're not eating well, and now they're eating less of not well.
01:52:48.000They're still not training, which means what happens because I think about 90% of people that go on GLPs and then come off them gain the weight back.
01:52:57.000So it's you don't change your behavior.
01:53:00.000You don't change your behavior, but you lose muscle on the way down and gain fat on the way back up.
01:53:05.000So if you end up back at the same weight that you were previously, your compositions were.
01:53:09.000And that's really concerning because you're basically locked in to use them for the rest of time if that's the case, if you can't use something else to fix it.
01:53:17.000I know that they were using different things.
01:53:18.000Like they were using IGF 1 along with GLP 1s to mitigate the bone density and muscle tissue loss.
01:53:28.000But the reality of having less calories coming in than coming out is your body's going to eat itself.
01:54:24.000But there's like real data that show that once people have fallen and broken a hip, like that's a catastrophic.
01:54:29.000Injury that you got to think of all the resources that your body has to use and employ in order to heal that, and then there's the compromise in movement that you're going to have for a long time.
01:54:39.000You're not going to be able to walk, right?
01:54:40.000You're going to need assistance, you're not going to have the same vitality, you're going to be recovering, you're going to be exhausted.
01:54:46.000People with Alzheimer's disease are substantially higher risk of falling.
01:54:50.000Wow, falls can be fatal, especially if they can cause a hip fracture, head injury, or complications from hospitalizations or immobility.
01:54:58.000Research indicated that 60 to 80 percent of older adults with Alzheimer's experience a fall.
01:55:04.000More than twice the rate in cognitively normal peers.
01:55:09.000There was a news story that came out recently, Jamie, about a woman who survived for eight days in a bathtub after she fell.
01:58:27.000The guy got Rory's old number, and Rory never bothered telling the UFC.
01:58:32.000And this guy knew who Rory was, and he was just so jazzed up that he could pick Rory's walking music, and the guy had a good sense of humor.
01:58:39.000So he'd pick some whack songs DMC, MC Hammer, DMX, sorry, MC Hammer.
02:01:19.000It's like Cypress Hill and Nickelback had an assignment.
02:01:22.000I want you to write a song about how dope it is to be a rock star.
02:01:26.000You want to be a rock star, you want all this cool shit, right?
02:01:28.000But Cypress Hill took it from the position of like, all you're going to suffer, all you're going to lose, you want this, you don't know how hard it is.
02:01:36.000And Nickelback's like, hey, hey, I want to be a rock star.
02:01:42.000Yeah, but it's kind of like an assignment.
02:01:45.000It is interesting trying to warm people off of something that everybody thinks they want.
02:01:50.000There's this study that was done on when people enter airplanes and they walk through business class, economy walk through business class, there's an eight times increase in passenger rage incidents.
02:02:03.000So it's a reminder of your place in the status hierarchy.
02:02:07.000And I think it becomes very difficult when trying to warm people off of, like, the rich person telling you that money won't fix your problems, or the famous person telling you that status isn't going to change your self worth, or the beautiful person telling you that looks aren't going to actually make you feel more valuable in the world.
02:02:23.000A lot of the time when When people hear that, it sounds like a luxury belief.
02:02:27.000It sounds like someone trying to pull the ladder up after they've managed to achieve it.
02:02:31.000And that's why, I don't know, the rock star that reminds you why it's so cool and this is what you could get.
02:02:41.000Rolling Stone ranked Rockstar at number 100 in their list of the 100 best songs of 2007.
02:02:46.000But BuzzFeed listed it as number two as one of the 30 worst songs ever written.
02:03:14.000Napster was very big, and people were discovering them.
02:03:18.000It's a little bit of opinion based, but there was a video that came out that went very viral and that played one Nickelback song in the left speaker and one in the right speaker.
02:03:28.000On the like every uh chord change was kind of like at the same time, the verses change at the same time, the formulate time, yeah.
02:03:35.000It was very formulaic, so people just sort of like clowned them for being too formulaic.
02:03:41.000Engineers would even say that they didn't like that because they were recording what they call in the box, which would mean they were recording everything uh very dry and then changing all of the effects after the fact, so like nothing that they were playing was like live necessarily, and so some people had a problem with that.
02:06:09.000I mean, everybody loves the idea of being a savant renaissance guy sort of outside of the system coming in and breaking the rules in that way.
02:06:16.000I wonder how often that happens at the highest level.
02:06:19.000Like, At the highest level, it's Hendrix.
02:06:21.000Because Hendrix played a guitar upside down, left handed.
02:07:38.000Fender's Hendrix signature Stratocaster recreates some of these visual and functional details, including a reverse headstock and reverse slant bridge pickup.
02:07:49.000Imagine, like, there's such a headstock.
02:07:50.000I'm not sure if it's the same, but it's still turned around.
02:07:53.000No, I mean, I think they did it his way.
02:08:27.000Knows more than us in the past, or that us in the future will know more than us now, and that sort of progress goes in that way.
02:08:33.000But for some things like matters of emotion or important life lessons, especially things around pain, I don't think that that's true.
02:08:41.000So, for instance, you could imagine that you're in a relationship with somebody and it's really painful, it's really uncomfortable, and after six months, you bump into them again.
02:08:50.000And you can't quite remember the sleepless nights and the way that things felt awkward and the pain in the same way as you used to.
02:08:56.000And you start to think, well, maybe I should.
02:09:00.000Or the guy that works in a very aggressive job, high powered, high paced job, and he's burned out and he can't sleep.
02:09:07.000And a year later, he misses the status, he misses the acclaim, he misses the accolades, he misses the camaraderie of working in that organization.
02:09:15.000And he thinks, well, maybe I could get back.
02:09:16.000Maybe I could start again at a competitor.
02:09:29.000There's this sort of fading affect bias, which is this idea from psychology that says bad memories fade with time, but good memories don't quite the same way.
02:10:01.000We distance ourselves from things, we minimize them, and it's a really fundamental part of the way that we deal with pain and difficulty in life.
02:10:08.000One of the problems is it causes us to forget the receipts of why we did the hard work in the first place.
02:10:15.000So, If you think about why you worked so hard to get yourself off of the alcohol, that was because of the pain that you felt at the time.
02:10:23.000But the pain that you felt at the time evaporates the further that you are away from it, which is the reason that you actually made all of that work and put yourself through that process to improve your life.
02:10:33.000So you could imagine that healing gets rid of the justification that made the healing necessary.
02:10:39.000So it's just this strange inversion that we always assume us in the future is going to be better educated than us now.
02:10:50.000Closer to the future version of me, which means that it's more recent.
02:10:54.000But in some things, especially matters of pain, discomfort, emotionality, being in the future actually means being further away from the evidence.
02:11:02.000And I often think about this when you see people that kind of seem to loop themselves back into bad situations someone that keeps on getting back into a bad relationship, someone that keeps on getting back into a bad relationship with substances or a job, or they just keep on, they seem to be stuck.
02:11:16.000And I don't think it's that they're not moving.
02:11:18.000I think it's that they're sort of looping back, they're forgetting the justification for why they needed to stop doing this thing.
02:11:24.000Yeah, this idea that healing destroys its receipts and this fading affect bias being kind of the mechanism that works on it.
02:11:31.000I found it pretty fascinating when thinking about observing my friends' lives.
02:11:35.000That is fascinating, but I think there's also an element of people finding comfort in familiar patterns, and sometimes those familiar patterns are just failure.
02:11:43.000They find comfort in failure, they find comfort in falling off the wagon.
02:11:57.000Just the pressure of success and not fucking up is so scary and so daunting and just maintaining that they fall into these self destructive patterns.
02:12:09.000You'd have to talk to a psychologist, but it seems to be a reoccurring pattern with people seeking comfort in familiar patterns that are failure patterns.
02:12:18.000They're like, maybe it takes pressure off of them to succeed.
02:12:22.000Because for some people, the idea of succeeding, the idea of getting it, it's like it's so overwhelming.
02:12:31.000And when they start doing well, hey, 333 days sober.
02:12:34.000And you start saying things like that.
02:12:36.000And the next thing, it just pops into your head I want a fucking Marlboro and I want a beer and I want to go to the bar and see my friends.
02:13:09.000That's what's really interesting to me.
02:13:10.000But I think that if you're the sort of person that's good at things and stuff typically goes well, success doesn't become a reason for celebration.
02:13:19.000It's the minimum level of acceptable performance, right?
02:13:41.000You wake up every single day behind, and only if you dominate the day perfectly do you get yourself back up to the minimum level of acceptable performance, which is perfection.
02:13:49.000And I think the perfectionism is kind of on the rise at the moment.
02:13:53.000I've had a few guests on the show talking about it.
02:14:03.000I mean, the studies that have been done on it looking at perfectionism as a personality trait, there's a few different types of perfectionism personal perfectionism.
02:14:12.000I must be perfect, and there's other perfectionism as well that people around me must be perfect too.
02:15:16.000And this goes back to the poverty parade thing.
02:15:18.000Right, if you're walking through business class to get to economy, you're reminded of your place within the hierarchy.
02:15:25.000It's also some really interesting data around if you're in a high income inequality area, self objectification by selfies from women on Instagram goes up.
02:15:36.000And this is a huge study by Candice Blake over in Australia, and they did a correlation, it might have been on Twitter rather than on Instagram.
02:15:44.000And they looked at geolocating images, ranked them based on self objectification, and then looked at the wealth inequality in that local area.
02:15:52.000Higher wealth inequality, more self objectification.
02:15:55.000Which side is doing the self objectification?
02:16:05.000Because, and the proposed mechanism is, you can see not just how high you could climb, look at the inequality on the top end, but how low you could potentially fall to on the bottom end.
02:16:19.000I think it's a similar sort of mechanism.
02:16:21.000If you see high inequality, perfectionism is another escape hatch.
02:16:24.000That's another ejector seat that you can pull.
02:16:26.000If you're not going to use your assets to get you access, maybe you could just do it yourself.
02:16:32.000You could bootstrap it yourself to lift yourself off the launch pad.
02:16:35.000And yeah, the perfectionism thing is kind of fascinating to me because I think it means that people never really get to escape from the standards that they set.
02:16:45.000And if you're good at stuff, it becomes even harder because the minimum level of acceptable performance is just perfection, right?
02:16:54.000First of all, I think a lot of that has got to be motivated by social media.
02:16:58.000That's a big part of it because now you're getting to see what everybody has, what everybody's doing.
02:17:02.000See what they look like, see their house, see their car, see all these things, these objects of desire.
02:17:08.000So, that I think accelerates people's desires and wants.
02:17:12.000And then you also get unrealistic beauty expectations from the internet, particularly social media apps that use filters, right?
02:17:19.000You're getting a very distorted perception of what people look like.
02:17:21.000And so, that probably accelerates the amount of plastic surgery women get and the amount of.
02:17:28.000Things that people are willing to do, probably the amount of steroids that young men do, you know, all that stuff.
02:17:34.000But, you know, the idea of perfectionism, like, what are we talking about?
02:17:40.000If you're talking about the pursuit of an excellence of a sport or of some sort of a discipline, some sort of a thing you do, people have always done that.
02:17:49.000There's always been, like, outliers who are trying to be the very best ever at something.
02:17:54.000You know, that's always going to be the case.
02:17:55.000And we celebrate that because when, you know, there's a guy like Larry Bird that keeps hitting those three pointers, everybody's like, fuck.
02:18:02.000Remember when I was a kid, people would throw garbage.
02:18:05.000Into the little garbage baskets at school, and they would go, Larry Bird!
02:18:10.000You know, like they wanted to be like Larry.
02:18:12.000They wanted to be like Michael Jordan.
02:18:50.000So, there's perfectionism increased in different rates.
02:18:53.000Perfectionistic concerns, fear of failure, indecisiveness, and fear of being negatively judged by others increase much faster than perfectionistic strivings, the motivation to set extremely high standards and work hard to achieve them.
02:19:04.000So, that's, I guess, maybe the difference between what you're thinking about, which is kind of positive perfectionism, wanting to.
02:19:11.000Set a goal and chase after it, as opposed to fear of failure, indecisiveness, and fear of being judged negatively by others.
02:19:46.000That's hard for a lot of people to grasp if they've never gone through a process before, if they've never trusted a process of improvement.
02:19:54.000This is one of the reasons why sports are so important for young people or any kind of pursuit, like learning how to play guitar or learning anything that's difficult to learn, because you realize there's a process.
02:20:04.000You realize you start off sucky and then you get better over time.
02:20:07.000But if you are never doing anything like that, if you're just existing and you've never been challenged to try to improve at something that's very difficult, You don't understand the striving, the perfectionist striving.
02:20:20.000Even that term, I don't like that term.
02:20:37.000You might get to - here's a perfect example.
02:20:40.000In games of pool, like in professional pool matches, the rarest of rare matches.
02:20:48.000Is a match where a guy runs out the entire set.
02:20:51.000That means, like, say, if you and I are playing a race to 10, okay, which means the first guy to make 10 games in a row.
02:20:59.000If you're really good, you might break and have an open run on the first rack and break and have an open run on the second rack and break it up.
02:22:32.000It's ridiculous when you talk about frivolous things that are meaningless.
02:22:35.000But when you're talking about Magnus Walker playing chess, or Magnus Carlson playing chess, that means something.
02:22:41.000Like, that's a crazy thing that that guy's able to do.
02:22:44.000That pursuit of extreme excellence is celebrated.
02:22:48.000When Messi plays soccer, you know, when someone is an outlier, like, we love that.
02:22:53.000So, this idea that you shouldn't love the most excellent of excellent people that are the most celebrated in society, and there's a problem with people chasing excellence.
02:23:02.000Like, if you're saying there's a problem with people.
02:23:06.000Chasing perfect appearances because then you get dysmorphia and you start looking at yourself all weird.
02:23:11.000Then you get anorexia or you get your lips done, you don't know they're too big.
02:24:10.000Yeah, there's this great line that the curse of discipline is that every day looks the same, and the curse of indiscipline is that every year looks the same.
02:24:41.000Because they look at someone who's like obsessed with doing something and they're like, oh, he's fucking lost his whole life playing that stupid game.
02:24:49.000Or he's given up his whole life for his music.
02:24:53.000Like, there's a lot of people that want to dismiss the outliers.
02:24:57.000Maybe they don't like the way they stack up against them.
02:25:00.000If someone's like the best at something, you watch some guy that can just do this thing that no one else can do the way he does it.
02:25:07.000Like, there's a bunch of people that celebrate it for sure, but there's always going to be a bunch of people that think there's something wrong with it.
02:25:12.000Being threatened by obsession is kind of interesting.
02:25:48.000And this is why I think people get so confused because from the outside, obsession can look a lot like someone just using a shit ton of discipline, just gritting their teeth and getting through it.
02:26:00.000What you don't realize from the inside, they have no choice.
02:26:14.000Obsession gets a bad rap because if it's pointed toward politics or porn or your ex or video games or weed or whatever, that becomes very dangerous.
02:26:48.000Someone that's got a problem solving brain, but doesn't have any good problems to solve, will just chew themselves up.
02:26:54.000They will eat themselves inside out because that is when you get obsessed with stuff that you shouldn't do.
02:26:58.000That is when you get obsessed with porn or politics or your toxic ex or that person that you think that's.
02:27:05.000Cut you off in traffic, and that's when you chase after them.
02:27:08.000That is the kind of problem solving brain without a good problem to solve.
02:27:12.000And I think a lot of people feel a degree of shame, or at the very least, like they're marionetted by this problem solving brain, by the speed of what they're going through, the fact that they're always turning something, they can't really get it to switch off.
02:27:30.000And I think a much easier solution than trying to stop yourself from solving problems is to just give yourself better problems to solve.
02:27:57.000They need someone who can talk to them about what they're doing and give them some tools as to how to navigate out of it because there's a lot of people that are just stuck in that rut.
02:28:17.000I think the funny thing for anyone that's on the right side of their obsession, they're applying it to something that's positive, kind of a nice situation to realize hey, you weren't that far away from being that guy on the street.
02:28:33.000If you're honest with yourself, your level of obsession could have directed you toward that, that destruction, that distraction, that self immolation.
02:28:50.000Yeah, it's just about directing it in a good way and figuring out a way that's going to be most beneficial to you and the people around you.
02:28:57.000And some people just aren't good at that problem solving.
02:29:01.000And I think you're right to point to what you do in childhood.
02:29:04.000Sport is just, hey, if you work hard incrementally at these component skills, there is an outcome in terms of performance that will happen in the future.
02:29:27.000And then you get into adulthood and you go, well, I understand.
02:29:29.000Like, delaying gratification is important.
02:29:31.000I can win the marshmallow test today, which means I can get something that I want in the future.
02:29:35.000I need to think over a longer time horizon.
02:29:38.000Typically, I can use my, like, another thing that's kind of fascinating about that obsession piece is when you look at someone like Jocko as a good example, what looks like obsession now, oh, sorry, what looks like discipline is probably just who he is.
02:29:55.000The 4 30 a.m. thing, the kettlebell swings, the training.
02:29:58.000At one point, he was obsessed by that.
02:30:01.000That was probably what he thought about most.
02:30:03.000I know it was when he was still in the SEALs.
02:30:06.000He just wanted to get as big and as jacked and as lethal as possible.
02:30:09.000I don't think that's quite his priority in the same way now.
02:30:12.000But what you see, if you allow yourself to have positive obsessions and for them to cool over time, you basically start to build up these layers of a pyramid, which is, well, I'm not obsessed by training, but I used to when I was in my 20s.
02:30:27.000And now my training obsession is just who I am.
02:30:30.000It's cooled like lava's sort of cooled into the core of this planet.
02:31:02.000Over time, serial obsessives, I think, whether it's in business or in training or in personal development, What you end up with is this unbelievably well rounded person.
02:31:13.000But if you don't allow yourself to wear that obsession for a while, and a lot of the time when people get obsessed with stuff, they feel guilty.
02:31:48.000You need to stand up for what it is that you want.
02:31:50.000I don't, all the times in my life when I've been obsessed by things, if anybody like tried to mock me being obsessed by it, I'd be like, fuck you.
02:32:34.000Why is it that we're not producing the same kind of orthogonal thinker, self starter, sovereign, high agency people that you might get out of America?
02:32:43.000I think a lot of it is it's just not as encouraged.
02:33:49.000Good in some ways because it keeps your feet on the ground, but bad in other ways because it means that you don't go for it.
02:33:54.000You don't take the big swings in the same way.
02:33:56.000In the US, I get the sense that kids that are told you can be anything you want to be, the American dream is still very much alive.
02:34:02.000If you work hard, you can raise yourself up, pick yourself up by your bootstraps, and become something.
02:34:08.000What happens if you arrive in adulthood and you're not given that which you felt you were promised as a kid?
02:34:16.000Well, that feels like someone's taken it away from you.
02:34:19.000That feels like someone's stolen your rightful promise.
02:34:23.000This is the same reason, interestingly enough, the same reason why Korea.
02:34:28.000The women in Korea are some of the most left leaning in the world, supposedly, that they were given equal access to education over the last few decades.
02:34:38.000And that meant that, as a quite patriarchal society, they were constrained, not able to access education in the same way.
02:34:58.000When it comes to the way that employment and promotions and wages, there's still a big wage gap there.
02:35:04.000And what that means is, in the same way as the American child that was promised all of this stuff as a kid doesn't get delivered it when they become an adult, a lot of the women in Korea, it seems, were promised a lot through their education.
02:35:14.000And then they arrive and the rug feels like it's being pulled out from underneath them by a workforce that is still kind of in their equivalent of the Dark Ages.
02:35:26.000But this is people throw their toys out of the pram.
02:35:33.000And yeah, the victimhood culture in America is I don't know.
02:35:38.000I wish I could take some of the bits of America and put them in the UK and some of the bits of the UK and put them in America, and I think we'd end up that was what it used to be.
02:35:43.000Fuck it, we'll just bring it back together again.
02:35:47.000Yeah, I think you're always going to have people that are dissatisfied with their station in life.
02:35:53.000The question is like, were they equipped with the tools to create a better life when they were younger?
02:35:59.000And whether they were equipped by their family, Or they're equipped by whatever thing they got into, a sport they got into when they were young, or some sort of a discipline where they realize this it's really important that kids realize at an early age about a process of improvement.
02:37:27.000You have to learn from people that have already done it.
02:37:29.000Like if you're learning from a wrestling coach, you're learning from a coach that wrestled.
02:37:33.000There's no wrestling coaches that didn't wrestle.
02:37:35.000They all wrestle, and that you learn from them that there's a process, and this is what you're going to do, and this is how we're going to get better.
02:37:42.000And trust me, when week three comes along, and you can run this hill a lot easier than you run it today, you're going to be thankful for these 5 a.m. practices.
02:38:42.000You can pick out the elements, but so many people have got coaches in their mind that are only ever focusing on the negatives.
02:38:50.000If you have a good coach and you're in a sport with a bunch of other people that are doing well, it's like statistically proven that your level will be higher than someone who has a bad coach.
02:39:03.000That's around other people that aren't as good.
02:39:06.000The best athletes always come from the great programs.
02:39:09.000You know, whether it's Oklahoma State University, wrestling, or whatever the fuck it is, there's always like a bunch of different killers that come from a great environment with great coaching.
02:39:18.000People don't have that in life, right?
02:39:20.000If you had great coaching in life and you were surrounded by a bunch of other fucking Division I All Americans who are like getting after it every day, you would be motivated.
02:39:50.000You got to know when to find people that are productive and healthy and are doing things similar to what you're doing, things where you're like pursuing something that you really enjoy and not just waste your fucking life away drinking every day.
02:40:07.000Because you need to break out of the frame that you're in already.
02:40:09.000This is the lonely chapter thing that I'm kind of obsessed with.
02:40:12.000You're so developed that you don't resonate with your old set of friends, but you're not yet sufficiently developed that you've built up your new set of friends.
02:40:20.000And there's this temptation to go back, to go back to the old patterns, the old habits, the old modes of reassurance.
02:40:26.000Just like we were talking about with drug addicts falling off the wagon because it's like it's easier, it's easier to fail.
02:40:32.000And I guess what's interesting thinking about choosing a new direction.
02:40:39.000And having a degree of self assurance, like living your life by design as opposed to default, is one of the most important things.
02:40:48.000But I wonder whether people that are in an environment where they don't have any good role models like, I didn't grow up in a particularly salubrious part of the UK.
02:40:57.000It's the most working class town in the back end of the northeast of England.
02:41:01.000And there weren't that many people around me when I grew up that were like the person I wanted to be like.
02:41:06.000But there were fucking lots of people like the person I didn't want to be like.
02:41:09.000I didn't want his relationship with gambling.
02:41:11.000I didn't want the way that he kept on cheating on his wife.
02:41:13.000I didn't like the fact that he used alcohol to deal with his emotional problems.
02:41:17.000So, yeah, would it be nice if you had the D1 sports coach as your next door neighbor every morning telling you that you can, we should go for a run because little Timmy's going for a run as well?
02:41:28.000But if you don't have it and you've got some people around you that are reverse role models, you can quite easily make a lot of progress in life by avoiding pitfalls, not just expediting success.
02:42:16.000But it's better to be motivated by someone who's doing something you aspire to.
02:42:20.000As opposed to trying to avoid something that's going wrong.
02:42:22.000I think the option that people have now that was never available before is you could hear people that you admire or that you aspire to be like what they are.
02:42:34.000You could hear them on the internet now.
02:42:36.000There's way more access to inspiration than ever before.
02:42:39.000You know, when you have some high achiever who goes on a podcast and has a conversation about something that they do, and you can realize how this guy built his company or built his life or became this amazing athlete and what they went through, you can learn from inspiration.
02:42:54.000Conversations that you're not in the room with.
02:42:57.000You don't get a chance to hang out with David Goggins or whatever, but you get a chance to listen to him talk now where it just wasn't available before.
02:43:06.000For all the different outliers, like we were talking about Larry Bird before.
02:43:10.000Who the fuck was Larry Bird listening to?
02:43:12.000He had to be listening to the other basketball players that were playing with him that were all a bunch of killers.
02:43:32.000It's a lot easier now to also have examples of people that are living a life that is aligned with what you're looking for versus what you see around you all the time.
02:43:43.000There's a lot more people now that are like, I've got to get the fuck away from these people.
02:43:47.000Well, because the alternative is that you're fortunately, like serendipitously just born into a culture where there's some people like the person you want to be like right next to you.
02:44:00.000Excellent individuals that are going to go on to try, that have the capacity to go on to do something incredible, are around other people that are like that too.
02:45:19.000But you also have to avoid the tricks.
02:45:22.000There's a whole bunch of things that are going to trick you and steal your attention.
02:45:25.000You've got to avoid the nonsense, avoid the nonsense on social media, and just find things that your time is very valuable.
02:45:32.000And the same feeling that you get out of watching a TikTok video, like the same dopamine rush that you get from watching a TikTok video that means nothing, you also get from watching a YouTube video where you're going to learn something.
02:46:03.000Were you around when The Secret was a big movie and a bunch of people really believed that they could just sort of manifest their life by thinking about it?
02:46:35.000The crazy thing is the secret, the visualization stuff, which I'm sure tons and tons of the athletes that you've worked with or that you commentate on, so many of them are using visualization, but people forget that you need to actually go and do the work as well.
02:46:48.000You'd think like God will steer the boat, but you still have to row, as opposed to you can just sit in the boat.
02:46:54.000And think about it, and you'll get rode there yourself.
02:49:08.000The amount of money we spent on other things, we could have fixed that a long time ago.
02:49:14.000You know, there's a lot of conspiracies about that, too, that they don't want that because if more people become educated and more people become ambitious, it's going to be harder to fuck them over.
02:49:22.000It's going to be harder to force them to pay taxes for an inefficient government that's stealing and it's just fraud and waste.
02:50:28.000They've called parents terrorists for showing up at school board meetings and yelling that they don't want their kids being taught about sexuality or they don't want their kids being taught about this.
02:52:12.000The dad of one of the guys that was in, that was the leader of it, is some attorney dude that was covering it up, putting money and drugs in the safe.
02:52:20.000And the pledges that were pledging to go into the fraternities were made to cut and bag the cocaine.