The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #256 - David Seaman

00:00:00.000 Are we live, sweet Jesus?

00:00:03.000 Meow!

00:00:04.000 Fuck yeah.

00:00:05.000 The Joe Rogan Experience Podcast.

00:00:06.000 This is getting boring saying this way every time.

00:00:12.000 Listen, what I like most about this podcast is it has no professionalism to it whatsoever.

00:00:18.000 So when I have to say the same shit over and over again, I feel like I'm being a professional and I feel like I'm not doing myself a service.

00:00:26.000 It's nonsense.

00:00:27.000 You know what the fuck it is.

00:00:28.000 We're sponsored.

00:00:29.000 How do we pay the bills?

00:00:31.000 Okay.

00:00:31.000 How do I employ Brian?

00:00:32.000 We have to get money.

00:00:33.000 This is where we get it.

00:00:34.000 We get it from brain pills.

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00:00:37.000 What is AlphaBrain?

00:00:38.000 What is AlphaBrain?

00:00:39.000 It's a cognitive enhancing supplement.

00:00:42.000 It is a supplement that has a bunch of the very best nutrients to support neurochemistry.

00:00:49.000 And the idea is that your body essentially runs on nutrients.

00:00:54.000 It's what you need to have everything functioning optimally.

00:00:58.000 But you can adjust those levels and add things, and you can get benefits from it.

00:01:02.000 And alpha brain to me is, I am fucking, I'm lost without it.

00:01:08.000 If I don't have it, I really do kind of freak out.

00:01:11.000 I've had people say that it's a placebo effect, and I say you're fucking crazy because it gives me these most incredibly vivid dreams that I never used to have before.

00:01:19.000 And, you know, I think everybody's different.

00:01:22.000 I don't know how sensitive you are to your body, but I'm very sensitive.

00:01:26.000 I'm very sensitive to what's working, what's not working, how I feel when I take fish oil, how I feel when I don't take fish oil.

00:01:33.000 You're sensitive to my body too, Joe.

00:01:35.000 I am sensitive.

00:01:36.000 I'm trying to be sensitive to your soul, Brian.

00:01:39.000 Trying to be sensitive to you as an essence.

00:01:41.000 I just realized that we're sponsored by a pharmaceutical company.

00:01:46.000 Well, it's not a pharmaceutical company.

00:01:48.000 Kind of.

00:01:48.000 They're vitamins.

00:01:49.000 I know for your mind.

00:01:50.000 Vitamins for your don't.

00:01:51.000 Well, it is kind of crazy because we also sell kettlebells and battle ropes and putting in the comments.

00:01:58.000 It sounds like that, right?

00:01:59.000 Yeah, you're building a fucking army for some reason.

00:02:01.000 I'm just trying to strengthen up men, all right?

00:02:03.000 Strengthen your mind and your fucking body, and that's what On It's all about.

00:02:08.000 I take Alpha Brain every fucking day.

00:02:10.000 I definitely take it before every podcast.

00:02:12.000 In fact, I usually do it in the middle of the podcast, which is why I'm at my best about an hour or so in.

00:02:18.000 What do you got over there?

00:02:19.000 I got only new mood.

00:02:20.000 I don't want to take new mood right now.

00:02:21.000 You got any of that Alpha Brain?

00:02:24.000 You sound so retarded. 1.00

00:02:26.000 The way you said that sounds so retarded. 0.89

00:02:28.000 It was like the worst commercial for Alpha Brain ever.

00:02:30.000 I've been hanging out in Ohio.

00:02:32.000 That's why.

00:02:32.000 Oh, they drained you again, those vampires.

00:02:34.000 They got a whole backwards.

00:02:36.000 We have this new shit that's in.

00:02:38.000 It's called Hemp Force.

00:02:39.000 And all the information on any of these things, I don't want to go too in-depth because people complain that these commercials take too long.

00:02:47.000 What we're trying to do it on is sell you the very best shit possible as cheap as we can.

00:02:52.000 And to make it as easy as possible, so we have a 100% money-back guarantee on your first order of 30 vitamins, 30 pills, whether it's Alpha Brain or New Mood, which is a 5-HTP, an L-tryptophan supplement that actually boosts your mood.

00:03:07.000 It actually boosts your serotonin levels.

00:03:09.000 And there's a lot of science behind this stuff, but it's very controversial.

00:03:13.000 So if you're interested at all in nootropics, I suggest that you Google the word, nootropics, and just read on the pros and cons.

00:03:21.000 But to me, vitamins are a very important part of my life.

00:03:24.000 I think supplementing has made me a healthier person with a body that functions better.

00:03:29.000 Period.

00:03:30.000 We also have these kettlebells and battle ropes that are in, and I've talked about them ad nauseum.

00:03:36.000 But the new news is I will definitely be doing a kettlebell DVD with the great Steve Maxwell.

00:03:41.000 Sweet.

00:03:42.000 Yeah, we did some emails back and forth, and Steve is totally down.

00:03:47.000 So we're going to do, he's going to, what we're going to do is I'm going to have Steve put me through one of his brutal workouts, and people at home will be able to do it along with him.

00:03:57.000 And I'm trying to do it for two, because, first of all, people keep asking me to do one of these.

00:04:02.000 And second of all, because I think people could really benefit from kettlebells.

00:04:07.000 I think it's a more interesting way to work out.

00:04:09.000 It feels more satisfying to me.

00:04:11.000 It's fucking harder.

00:04:12.000 Like when I see someone just doing bicep curls now, I'm like, you silly bitch. 1.00

00:04:17.000 Like that's nonsense.

00:04:18.000 Like it's too easy.

00:04:20.000 To really get like real benefits that you see when you roll, when you do jiu-jitsu, I feel like you have to do something really difficult.

00:04:28.000 You have to do either powerlifting, you have to do cleans and presses, you have to do squats, you have to do deadlifts.

00:04:34.000 If you want to like really get a benefit, you have to do that or you got to do something like kettlebells.

00:04:39.000 And what I like about kettlebells is you develop amazing core strength because you're essentially balancing this fucking cannonball and moving it around.

00:04:49.000 And it makes your body work intelligently as one unit.

00:04:53.000 And I think using your body to lift weights as one unit instead of isolating areas, to me shows the best benefits athletically.

00:05:01.000 So all that shit we sell at onit.com.

00:05:04.000 The vitamins?

00:05:05.000 That video you're making, Jimmy Kilstein wants to know if you wear GSP shorts in it.

00:05:09.000 You know, the shorts that GSP wears, those really tight ones.

00:05:12.000 He wants to know if you would wear it.

00:05:13.000 I would do that for him.

00:05:14.000 I still love him.

00:05:14.000 I would do that for him.

00:05:17.000 Anyway, go to onit.com, use the code name Rogan, save 10% off any of the supplements.

00:05:22.000 And that's including the Hemp Force. 0.97

00:05:24.000 So go check it out.

00:05:25.000 Onit.com, O-N-N-I-T. 0.96

00:05:27.000 And we also want to thank Alienware for providing us with these super dope computers.

00:05:31.000 And I'm now using Alienware as the computer that I use to watch YouTube videos and stuff.

00:05:35.000 So there's going to be a lot of new shenanigans for this.

00:05:38.000 We'll get to see pop-up screens.

00:05:38.000 Oh, excellent.

00:05:40.000 Yeah, the computers are awesome, but Windows can suck it.

00:05:43.000 How about that?

00:05:44.000 How about that?

00:05:45.000 We need to figure out a way to port these bitches over to Mac. 1.00

00:05:48.000 Wait a minute!

00:05:49.000 Fanboys all across the world just went, what the fuck, man?

00:05:52.000 Windows is the shit.

00:05:53.000 I've been playing a future sponsor on the...

00:06:00.000 You don't know if you can talk about it?

00:06:02.000 Yeah, remember the iPad game?

00:06:05.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:06.000 Well, we'll soon.

00:06:07.000 Yeah, you've been previewing it.

00:06:08.000 We will soon be sponsored by a new game company that's making really badass iPad games.

00:06:16.000 Yeah, and I've been using my iPad a lot because of this game, which it's kind of weird.

00:06:19.000 It's turned into a Game Boy almost.

00:06:21.000 Yeah, Twitter.

00:06:22.000 That should be finalized really soon.

00:06:24.000 So let's roll the podcast.

00:06:24.000 All right.

00:06:27.000 We got a lot of shit to talk about.

00:06:29.000 A lot of shit.

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00:06:45.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we are joined by congressional candidate David Seaman.

00:06:51.000 That sounds so official, dude.

00:06:53.000 I know, it feels kind of ridiculous.

00:06:56.000 I was at lunch the other day with a friend of mine.

00:06:58.000 I knew from it.

00:07:00.000 And we were talking about it.

00:07:01.000 It just sounds so ridiculous to talk about your supporters and campaigning and all this.

00:07:06.000 But it's cool in a way because I used to be the guy who would just watch TV and be so angry that all of these dumbasses have been in for 20 years and are legislating terrible stuff.

00:07:15.000 So I would just write articles about it and do YouTube videos about it.

00:07:19.000 And then a number of things happened and I actually had an opportunity to run.

00:07:23.000 So why not?

00:07:24.000 Why not jump in instead of just being on the sidelines?

00:07:26.000 Wow.

00:07:27.000 Did you feel compelled?

00:07:29.000 Do you feel like you're calling?

00:07:30.000 I mean, how old are you?

00:07:32.000 I'm in my mid-20s.

00:07:33.000 You don't want to say?

00:07:34.000 I'm 26.

00:07:35.000 Why didn't you want to say?

00:07:37.000 Because mid-20s, more people can connect with that than 26.

00:07:42.000 We just ruined your entire campaign.

00:07:44.000 Now it's over, buddy.

00:07:46.000 I'm just kidding.

00:07:47.000 I don't know.

00:07:47.000 Because normally, here's why I answered that way.

00:07:49.000 Normally it's a girl who asks me how old I am.

00:07:51.000 And so you can go for like 10 minutes on the guessing game.

00:07:53.000 Oh, and you like that.

00:07:54.000 You keep that.

00:07:55.000 I like that.

00:07:55.000 So you treat me like a chick.

00:07:57.000 How dare you, sir?

00:07:59.000 How dare you run your shenanigans my way?

00:08:03.000 Dude, I respect you if you're still running around with a last name like Seaman and being a young man.

00:08:09.000 That had to be brutal.

00:08:10.000 What the fuck was high school like?

00:08:12.000 High school was cool.

00:08:12.000 It was middle school that was bad because in high school people were like, okay.

00:08:15.000 They were over it.

00:08:16.000 Yeah, like in middle school, though, you take the science class where you first learn about that that happens.

00:08:22.000 And people just go wild.

00:08:24.000 They love it.

00:08:25.000 But it was kind of tempered by there's this guy in my same class with the last name either Butt Kiss or Butt Lick.

00:08:32.000 I think it was Butt Lick. 1.00

00:08:34.000 So like Seaman was almost a little too, it was a little too obscure for people to grasp.

00:08:39.000 But like Butt Lick, you could just jump on that and you could really bully that kid. 0.99

00:08:43.000 It's funny how weird noises with your mouth like have a different effect on people.

00:08:47.000 Totally.

00:08:48.000 Or curse words.

00:08:49.000 Like why is something a curse word?

00:08:51.000 It's just something come out of your mouth.

00:08:53.000 It's almost to me, it's like that's the beginnings of all censorship.

00:08:57.000 The beginnings of all ignorance is this idea that we have bad words.

00:09:02.000 It's almost like if you can convince people, like if everybody agrees that there's bad words, we all agree there's words you should never say in certain company.

00:09:10.000 If you do that, that's a step one on the way to be full of shit.

00:09:14.000 Yeah.

00:09:15.000 And that, you know, it's weird that we still accept that.

00:09:18.000 It's so silly.

00:09:20.000 Those words are important.

00:09:22.000 If people don't use them, they're not as fun to talk to.

00:09:25.000 You know, I don't know a single person that never swears that's as legitimately fun to talk to as my friends who swear all the time.

00:09:32.000 If you don't swear at all, there's something a little bit wrong with you.

00:09:34.000 Yeah.

00:09:36.000 Because it's just, it's not the way people speak.

00:09:38.000 It's stupid.

00:09:40.000 By not using it, it's stupid.

00:09:42.000 Sometimes it's the fucking word to use.

00:09:45.000 Something completely wrong with my mom.

00:09:47.000 My mom, there's something wrong with her because she, I'll say shit, and she'll be like, Brian.

00:09:52.000 That sucks.

00:09:53.000 Well, your mom's religious, though, dude.

00:09:54.000 And that's where things get odd.

00:09:57.000 Right.

00:09:58.000 In running for Congress, is that important?

00:10:00.000 Do you have to bring up religion?

00:10:02.000 Do you feel like you need people on your team?

00:10:05.000 Well, I mean, I have a lot of Republican and a lot of Democratic supporters, and obviously a lot of independents and libertarian-minded.

00:10:11.000 But they're not supporting me because of what I believe metaphysically, whatever that may be.

00:10:16.000 They're supporting me just because I want to protect the Constitution and defend the Bill of Rights.

00:10:20.000 And for most people, that's enough right there.

00:10:22.000 And if you believe in those things, you know that my personal beliefs are kind of irrelevant.

00:10:27.000 As long as I'm not a member of the League of Shadows or something, you know, and like, as long as your religion isn't harmful to anybody, it doesn't matter if you're an atheist or if you're a skeptic or secular or, you know, extremely, what's the word, extremely devout.

00:10:42.000 That shouldn't really matter when you're representing your district.

00:10:46.000 Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

00:10:48.000 And I really, I've been callous about people's ideas in the past and made fun of silly religions. 0.99

00:10:56.000 But the reality is some of the nicest people I know are religious people.

00:11:00.000 I have a friend who's a Mormon is like one of the nicest guys on earth.

00:11:05.000 I have a friend who's a Scientologist.

00:11:07.000 I've never met a mean Mormon. 1.00

00:11:09.000 They're like nice to the point where you're a little bit upset.

00:11:12.000 And they're really charitable.

00:11:14.000 It's a beautiful religion.

00:11:16.000 If you know people that are Mormons and you see how much they help each other when there's any sort of a crisis or one family has, how much they chip in, it's a beautiful community.

00:11:27.000 Even if it's based on nonsense, it's a beautiful community.

00:11:31.000 But you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want as long as you're nice.

00:11:35.000 That guy's my friend.

00:11:36.000 I mean, he believes all kinds of wacky shit.

00:11:38.000 They used to wear a special underwear, the whole fucking deal.

00:11:41.000 But he's my friend.

00:11:42.000 He's a nice guy.

00:11:43.000 I don't need him to believe everything I believe.

00:11:46.000 I just need to be able to interact with him and know that he's got my interests and his interests and everybody's interest at heart.

00:11:52.000 He's not just trying to fuck the whole thing up for himself.

00:11:55.000 Yeah.

00:11:56.000 Well, I mean, personal beliefs, once you start telling somebody what they can believe and what they can't believe in terms of religion, you're jumping a huge slippery.

00:12:06.000 Yeah, it's a very slippery slope.

00:12:08.000 I think the idea is we should be as honest as possible about everything, about all your own personal beliefs on religion.

00:12:16.000 We should all be as honest as possible.

00:12:18.000 And I think we would come to a remarkable middle ground if we took away all the ideology.

00:12:25.000 I think we would come to, if we all got together, if the whole world could speak one language and we sat down and talked about religion, I think we would form remarkably similar opinions if we were really honest about what the fuck happens when you die and about who has created this earth.

00:12:42.000 It's a massive mystery.

00:12:43.000 Well, that's the, I'm definitely not religious, but people have asked me, somebody online on Google Plus actually asked me, he was like, do you believe in God?

00:12:52.000 This is a deal breaker for me.

00:12:54.000 He was atheist.

00:12:56.000 And first of all, he was posting a comment on a thread that had nothing to do with that.

00:13:00.000 I was writing something about censorship or like internet censorship, and this is his question.

00:13:04.000 Totally like hijacking what we're talking about.

00:13:06.000 But I wanted to answer him, and I said, you know, I believe in a higher power because I really don't want to believe that we're the most advanced thing in the universe.

00:13:12.000 Like, this iPhone over there is the most high-tech, incredible thing invented in the whole universe.

00:13:18.000 I just don't believe that.

00:13:19.000 And I don't believe that we're necessarily the highest level of intelligence out there.

00:13:24.000 I don't.

00:13:25.000 And if you look at where we are now, atheists want you to believe that we came from kind of like toxic sludge billions of years ago washing up on the shore in a kind of pre-oxygenated earth or whatever the details are.

00:13:39.000 And I'd like to think that there's more to life than that.

00:13:41.000 I really would.

00:13:43.000 Well, I would like to too.

00:13:46.000 I don't want to.

00:13:47.000 You don't want to?

00:13:48.000 You want to think this is it?

00:13:49.000 Yeah.

00:13:50.000 Just fucking floor it and see where it crashes?

00:13:52.000 Absolutely.

00:13:54.000 You know, I think a lot of us would like to think there's something out there that's smarter than us.

00:14:00.000 I think the real issue is ego, is that the human ego is aware of itself.

00:14:07.000 And I think when a person's aware of themselves, when you start thinking of yourself and you want to keep yourself alive, you start looking at yourself very selfishly and unobjectively.

00:14:17.000 You start looking at yourself like you're super, super fucking important.

00:14:21.000 You know, I think if we could get past that and you looked at life and intelligence, you would say, well, why does it have to be coming out of the mouth of some thing that can move around?

00:14:33.000 Why am I assuming that that's the only intelligence?

00:14:36.000 How do I not know that there's not intelligence in stars?

00:14:39.000 How do I not know that there's intelligence?

00:14:40.000 There could be hyperintelligence all around us.

00:14:44.000 We're not capable of hearing its frequency.

00:14:47.000 We're not capable of communicating with it.

00:14:49.000 Why does this bag of blood and cells and nerve endings and electrical impulses, why does this make noise with its mouth and change the world?

00:15:00.000 Why the fuck does that happen?

00:15:02.000 Who knows?

00:15:02.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:15:04.000 How do you not know that there's not an intelligence to everything around us all the time?

00:15:09.000 It's just imperceptible to us.

00:15:11.000 And they're starting to figure this out with plants.

00:15:13.000 They're starting to figure out that plants have some sort of rudimentary or unknown, rather.

00:15:18.000 I shouldn't say rudimentary.

00:15:19.000 It might be, like, really complicated.

00:15:20.000 Method of communicating with each other.

00:15:22.000 It's fucking freaky shit.

00:15:25.000 When one of the trees gets cut down, they send a chemical signal through the roots to the other trees and warn them or something.

00:15:33.000 Not that it really matters because you're a tree and you can't go anywhere.

00:15:36.000 But they send out the warning signal, you know?

00:15:38.000 And there's, I don't know if this has been debunked or not, but somebody put out a book a while ago that my aunt was really into.

00:15:45.000 And it was like, if you're in a room with a plant and you have positive emotions of like, I love this plant.

00:15:51.000 It fares better than a plant where you're like, I need to throw this damn thing out. 0.94

00:15:54.000 I think that's real.

00:15:59.000 Snipe it.

00:16:00.000 Because Snopes tends to be pretty honest about that shit.

00:16:03.000 Although they seem a little pessimistic.

00:16:06.000 You're saying Snopes once in a while is on the rag?

00:16:09.000 I don't know.

00:16:10.000 Yeah.

00:16:10.000 Do you think so?

00:16:11.000 How would I form this question?

00:16:13.000 Snoopy's...

00:16:15.000 Dew Plants...

00:16:17.000 Dew Plants...

00:16:19.000 Do plants think?

00:16:21.000 Positive emotion plants.

00:16:23.000 Yeah, positive singing to plants.

00:16:26.000 Benefits of positive.

00:16:28.000 Plant sex.

00:16:30.000 People.

00:16:31.000 I wonder if you had sex with plants if they would grow bigger. 1.00

00:16:34.000 Maybe if you just came on your plant.

00:16:36.000 Oh, yeah.

00:16:36.000 Sprinkled a little every day online.

00:16:42.000 I put some in some Gatorade once, and it looked like it grew twice its size overnight.

00:16:48.000 What?

00:16:50.000 I put some cum in and I wiped my cum off in Gatorade and it seemed like it just expanded really big in the Gatorade.

00:16:56.000 So I don't know if there's a chemical reaction between the two, but.

00:17:01.000 I think I was too vague in my search.

00:17:03.000 Do people talk to plants?

00:17:06.000 What would you say?

00:17:07.000 It's not people talk to plants.

00:17:08.000 Positive energy.

00:17:09.000 Energy around plants helping butthole.

00:17:14.000 Is that hurricane hitting Florida right now?

00:17:16.000 Do you know anything about it?

00:17:18.000 I got out of there.

00:17:20.000 They offered to change my flight for no fee.

00:17:22.000 So I flew out a day early just because you want to be stuck in that.

00:17:25.000 Even if there is nothing big, airlines will cancel your flights just out of caution.

00:17:30.000 You know, I flew on Southwest the other day and I just wanted to sleep.

00:17:34.000 And the whole time they played games on the intercom and like trivia games with everyone, they're like, now press your button, that ding button, you know, like the help me button.

00:17:43.000 It seemed totally illegal because like what if somebody really needed help, like a heart attack and there's all these people dinging and they're like, no, I'm having a heart attack, you know?

00:17:50.000 But Southwest, I don't like those games.

00:17:52.000 Like I remember one time, I don't want to like single out and say it was definitely Southwest because I don't want to be sued.

00:17:58.000 But I'm like 99% sure it was Southwest.

00:18:00.000 Yeah, me too.

00:18:00.000 I'm 99.9%.

00:18:01.000 The flight attendant was making some kind of lame joke about like, hopefully we'll land. 0.96

00:18:06.000 And I was like, for me, that doesn't matter because you fly enough times you know that the odds are in your favor.

00:18:10.000 But every once in a while you get that person who's flying for the first time.

00:18:14.000 And it probably freaks the hell out of that person.

00:18:14.000 Right.

00:18:17.000 You almost swore.

00:18:18.000 You backed off it perfectly, though.

00:18:18.000 And you know.

00:18:20.000 This is what one of the stewardesses said. 0.82

00:18:22.000 I'm trying to sleep, and they're screaming on the internet on the whole flight.

00:18:24.000 I want to kill people.

00:18:25.000 Like, she says, all right, now take your seatbelt and cross your lips.

00:18:30.000 Oh, I mean hips.

00:18:31.000 And I'm thinking, like, did she just mean pussy lips?

00:18:34.000 Because she made, like, the motion, like, cross your belt over your lips. 0.98

00:18:37.000 She probably used to be a stripper, and now she's a flight titan. 1.00

00:18:39.000 I'm trying to sleep.

00:18:40.000 Speaking of which, Virgin America, I was pretty impressed with, I don't know how they were able to do this legally, but everybody was young and had a good attitude.

00:18:48.000 And that's like my euphemism for hot women. 1.00

00:18:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:18:52.000 Right.

00:18:53.000 And there are other airlines because of unions and stuff.

00:18:56.000 They're just, they have a serious attitude.

00:18:58.000 They hate their job.

00:18:59.000 And they're old.

00:19:00.000 They've been there for like 30 years.

00:19:01.000 Yeah.

00:19:02.000 Or there's stand-up comics that never made it, and now they're trying their material out of the way.

00:19:07.000 They have the ultimate captive audience.

00:19:08.000 What are you going to do?

00:19:09.000 Like, jump out?

00:19:09.000 We had a guy, Joey and I had a guy recently flying into Denver that has a whole routine.

00:19:16.000 He was doing stand-up.

00:19:17.000 I was like, as a stand-up, I know when someone's doing stand-up.

00:19:20.000 He was doing stand-up.

00:19:21.000 He had a whole routine that he would do, like a bunch of one-liners about travel.

00:19:25.000 It was so silly.

00:19:26.000 There's this one pilot that sings every time he takes off and lands.

00:19:31.000 That should definitely be illegal.

00:19:34.000 You're using up the airwaves.

00:19:35.000 I know.

00:19:36.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:19:37.000 It's ridiculous.

00:19:38.000 The idea of it is just so gross.

00:19:40.000 Like, who are you?

00:19:41.000 This is my plane.

00:19:42.000 I'm the pilot.

00:19:44.000 Slaps the waitress on her ass, Flight attendant on her ass as he moves into the cockpit, gives his buddy knuckles.

00:19:50.000 I'm going to sing to these people.

00:19:51.000 They need to hear my voice.

00:19:53.000 Singing in the rain.

00:19:55.000 It was also so cold, and I was like, can I please have a blanket?

00:19:58.000 And they're like, we don't have blankets.

00:20:00.000 And I'm like, all right, so I had to make one of those things where you take your arms and put it inside your shirt and then just make a cocoon and bundle up in a corner because it was so freezing on the plane while they were doing this.

00:20:11.000 How healthy could it be being a pilot?

00:20:13.000 You just flying up and blasted by radiation.

00:20:17.000 Blasted by radiation in front of a window.

00:20:19.000 I mean, it's...

00:20:22.000 Makes you want to play trivia games over the intercom.

00:20:25.000 How much radiation is involved in plane flight?

00:20:27.000 Do you know?

00:20:28.000 I heard something across country is like the equivalent of a chest x-ray or something.

00:20:33.000 It's nothing.

00:20:34.000 It's just the fact if you're flying every single day, as they do, it might add up.

00:20:39.000 And radiation is not as bad for you as people make it out to be.

00:20:42.000 The Fukushima style stuff is definitely really bad for you. 0.97

00:20:45.000 But in terms of just low ambient doses, you're getting radiation just walking outside.

00:20:50.000 Sure.

00:20:51.000 Everything.

00:20:52.000 I read somewhere in a kitchen with a marble top that's giving off radiation.

00:20:56.000 Yeah, isn't that crazy?

00:20:57.000 Yeah, I was watching some documentary on TV where they were talking about dinosaur bones, some of them being radioactive.

00:21:04.000 They had to coat them with lead paint to try to reduce the amount of radioactive energy that came off.

00:21:10.000 I don't know if that's horseshit or not.

00:21:11.000 It sounds silly.

00:21:13.000 But it actually makes sense if the dinosaurs died from some sort of a meteor impact or something like that, that there was some radiation.

00:21:22.000 6,000 years ago, right?

00:21:23.000 Yeah, how long is a half-life for that stuff?

00:21:24.000 They said 6,000 years ago.

00:21:25.000 No, I'm saying the dinosaurs were 6,000 years ago.

00:21:27.000 It was at least 6,000 years ago.

00:21:28.000 Okay, cool ago.

00:21:29.000 6,000 or more.

00:21:30.000 How do you deal with that question?

00:21:32.000 For folks who don't know what the fuck we're talking about, do serious fundamentalists believe that the Earth is 6,000 years old?

00:21:37.000 I think the way I'd answer it is I'd be like, I definitely believe there were dinosaurs on the planet 6,000 or more years ago.

00:21:45.000 I don't believe they're a trick by the devil.

00:21:47.000 I don't believe dinosaur fossils are there to confuse us and question our faith.

00:21:51.000 I think they're there because they're dinosaur fossils.

00:21:53.000 Bill Hicks had a great joke about that.

00:21:56.000 Doesn't it bother you that God might be fucking with you?

00:22:00.000 God might be fucking with your head?

00:22:02.000 That's such a great bit about God burying dinosaur bones and giggling.

00:22:07.000 Like, figure this out.

00:22:08.000 Yeah, he's questioning your faith.

00:22:09.000 That's what it's all about.

00:22:10.000 That's hilarious.

00:22:11.000 That is one of the most beautiful ways to shut down new ideas.

00:22:15.000 It's Satan questioning your faith.

00:22:17.000 Yeah.

00:22:18.000 Yeah, you can't let that 6,000-year thing go, okay?

00:22:22.000 We know more now, period.

00:22:23.000 You can't trust what was in a book that was written by people who were deciphering it from several other different languages also, by the way.

00:22:32.000 It didn't immediately go to English.

00:22:34.000 It had to be translated from Hebrew to Latin to a lot of shit missing from that, man.

00:22:39.000 Maybe that 6,000 years is a figure of speech.

00:22:42.000 Yeah, I wondered about that.

00:22:44.000 You look at a Wikipedia entry, and here we have digital content where you transfer something and it's 100% intact.

00:22:51.000 Back then, you're just doing it by hand, and you have other issues going on.

00:22:54.000 Maybe you get hit with the plague.

00:22:56.000 And the editors get wiped out.

00:22:58.000 But, like, whenever you copy something from book to book, there are going to be big changes just out of, like, Yeah, yeah.

00:23:07.000 So true.

00:23:08.000 There's no way you can spread information on the back of animal hides for a thousand years and have that shit come out perfect.

00:23:15.000 You gotta let that 6,000-year thing go.

00:23:18.000 Well, it's wild that just like 400 years ago, people really thought that, or I don't know if they thought this, they were told that the Earth was the center of the universe.

00:23:27.000 Yeah.

00:23:27.000 And you know these people were not any dumber than we are today, like biologically the same brain.

00:23:33.000 And people were doing smart stuff back then.

00:23:35.000 But they had to like buy into this collective bullshit.

00:23:38.000 Like, oh yeah, it is, we're definitely the center of the universe, even though we know that's not the case.

00:23:42.000 And back then, if you said something, if you came out with some new information that showed that the current model was completely false, they would put you in jail or kill you.

00:23:53.000 You didn't just accept it.

00:23:55.000 You weren't allowed to just come out and say, hey, man, I think that we're spinning around it.

00:24:01.000 And it's one of a bunch of them.

00:24:04.000 You weren't allowed to say that.

00:24:05.000 They were like, wasn't Galileo was put under house arrest?

00:24:08.000 Yeah, he was under house arrest.

00:24:09.000 I mean, it was considered heresy, right?

00:24:11.000 Yeah.

00:24:12.000 New information is considered satanic.

00:24:15.000 They wanted to, what's really exciting, ridiculous, rather, if you stop and think about that.

00:24:20.000 They just wanted to lock down information so bad that if you had some new stuff, they wouldn't even consider it.

00:24:27.000 It was the work of the devil.

00:24:28.000 They had it locked down.

00:24:29.000 They knew exactly what was up.

00:24:31.000 That kind of confidence is so ridiculous.

00:24:34.000 Well, it might have been lack of confidence, actually, because if you acknowledge that, okay, you guys are right, the earth is just this insignificant thing in a much bigger picture, then maybe people go, well, what about the Pope?

00:24:44.000 Do we still have to pay homage to them, or could that be a typo also, you know?

00:24:49.000 That's one of the most ridiculous things ever that foreign dignitaries and presidents and prime ministers, they have to sit down and meet with the fucking Pope.

00:24:59.000 They have to sit down and meet with this cult leader who's dressed like a wizard in a Star Wars episode.

00:25:06.000 I mean, it's the most ridiculous idea ever that this guy should still be dressing like this in 2012 and we should still pretend that he's holy.

00:25:16.000 We should still pretend that he's got the Willy Wonka golden ticket to Jesus' fucking factory fuckhouse.

00:25:22.000 It's unbelievable, man.

00:25:24.000 It's unbelievable that that still works.

00:25:26.000 That kind of stuff is preposterous.

00:25:28.000 That kind of stuff is...

00:25:31.000 It's not whether or not there's a God.

00:25:32.000 It's not whether or not the idea of a higher power exists.

00:25:36.000 Of course it does.

00:25:37.000 It would be crazy to think that some higher intelligent might be at the end of all this.

00:25:43.000 Why not?

00:25:45.000 We are?

00:25:46.000 Look how much change we enact on our environment and we do it thoughtfully.

00:25:50.000 We do it whether it's reasonable or not.

00:25:53.000 We're thinking about it while we're doing it.

00:25:55.000 Even when you throw garbage in the ocean, you're thinking about it when you do that.

00:25:59.000 Why wouldn't we assume that there's some sort of an intelligence to galaxies?

00:26:03.000 Why wouldn't we assume that?

00:26:05.000 just because it can't talk English?

00:26:07.000 That's so arrogant.

00:26:08.000 To me, it's crazy to think that we're the only intelligence just because we can clearly communicate with each other but can't communicate with other things.

00:26:16.000 Yeah, that's like how they test for intelligence in schools with the SAT test.

00:26:20.000 So you get somebody who's good at memorizing facts and filling out bubbles, and it doesn't account at all for that person who's truly a genius at painting or at designing websites or doing things that are ultimately much more lucrative than filling out a bubble test.

00:26:34.000 Me.

00:26:34.000 Well, yeah.

00:26:36.000 Yeah, Brian is a good example.

00:26:37.000 I mean, you did say that as a joke, but you are a good example.

00:26:41.000 Like, you're great at what you do.

00:26:42.000 I fucking hate math.

00:26:44.000 But imagine if you had to do something else.

00:26:46.000 What if you had to be a lawnmower guy?

00:26:48.000 What if you had to be a guy who mows lawns?

00:26:50.000 How good would you be at that?

00:26:52.000 He would fucking suck at that.

00:26:53.000 Well, to some people, you know, certain things have no appeal to them.

00:26:58.000 They have no desire to do it.

00:27:00.000 For other people, other people love mowing lawns.

00:27:04.000 I know dudes who are landscape artists.

00:27:05.000 They're fucking artists, man.

00:27:07.000 They put together the plants in the right place, and they arrange the flowers perfectly and cut everything.

00:27:13.000 And it creates this really nice aesthetic.

00:27:15.000 Like when a guy does your front lawn, and there's a guy across the street from my house who has like little gnomes and shit, puts all these little things in front of it.

00:27:24.000 I mean, he's creating like a little work of art out there.

00:27:26.000 That guy's compelled to do that, man.

00:27:28.000 Everybody's compelled to do different shit.

00:27:30.000 The real problem is that we don't recognize that.

00:27:32.000 We're always trying to push people into areas where they're not compelled.

00:27:36.000 We're trying to tell people, well, you can't be a professional skateboarder.

00:27:39.000 There's no money in that.

00:27:40.000 Then you go, what the fuck is Tony Hawk?

00:27:42.000 Who's that guy?

00:27:43.000 Why is that guy?

00:27:44.000 That guy's fucking huge.

00:27:45.000 Okay.

00:27:46.000 How come he, There's money in it.

00:27:49.000 Stop telling me what to do.

00:27:51.000 I'm going to do this.

00:27:52.000 I'm going to try to do this.

00:27:53.000 Well, people have such a weird attitude.

00:27:55.000 I told people I was coming out here to do your show and to do a couple of meetings.

00:28:00.000 And they're like, so is somebody paying you to go out there?

00:28:03.000 And I'm like, are you serious?

00:28:04.000 Like, I'm going to be in front of millions of people.

00:28:06.000 And that's the first question on your mind is, am I being paid to come out?

00:28:10.000 And people really think like that.

00:28:11.000 Like, you ask them to do something, and it's like, well, is this on the payroll?

00:28:16.000 And you're like, just fucking do it.

00:28:18.000 It's something important.

00:28:19.000 You should do it.

00:28:20.000 Like, there are a lot of people who they want to be in a cubicle and get paid on a time schedule.

00:28:25.000 And that's all they want.

00:28:27.000 And if they encounter somebody who's not on that same thought process of, I wonder what my annual salary this year is going to be, then they're confused.

00:28:36.000 Like, wait a second, why aren't you maximizing your available work hours?

00:28:41.000 Yeah.

00:28:43.000 Yeah, we want to know that we have a certain amount of money coming in every month.

00:28:47.000 Yeah, I mean, that's normal.

00:28:48.000 That's just like not wanting to starve.

00:28:51.000 Yeah.

00:28:51.000 But then there are people who, it's like anything that's coming out of a place of passion or a place of civic duty.

00:28:56.000 It's like, what is that all about?

00:28:58.000 Like the TSA, for example, whenever I rant about them on Twitter or on one of my articles on Business Insider, I get a couple of people who always say, they're just doing their jobs.

00:29:10.000 Leave them alone.

00:29:11.000 I'm like, that's the justification given for some of the most evil stuff that's been done on this planet.

00:29:16.000 We're just doing our jobs.

00:29:17.000 Find a job that doesn't violate people's constitutional rights.

00:29:20.000 Find a job where you can go home at night and not be embarrassed by what you're doing all day.

00:29:25.000 And for the money they're making, whatever they're making, it's not enough to just totally infringe on other people's basic rights.

00:29:32.000 And I feel that way.

00:29:33.000 It's not all about the money.

00:29:34.000 It has to be the money and doing something that you're okay with.

00:29:37.000 I don't think, I don't, first of all, I don't think it's the fault of the TSA people.

00:29:43.000 I think, first of all, that's an incredibly difficult job.

00:29:46.000 Whenever you're trying to search people's shit when they're on their way somewhere, that's a difficult job.

00:29:51.000 Because what if someone does get through with a bomb?

00:29:53.000 What if someone does get through with some shit that can light the inside of the plane on fire?

00:30:00.000 That's a real problem.

00:30:01.000 And we live in a fucked up time.

00:30:04.000 We really do.

00:30:05.000 We do live in a fucked up time.

00:30:06.000 But these people that are working there, man, they're just people with jobs.

00:30:10.000 The people that are running the whole thing must be responsible.

00:30:14.000 Well, yeah, yeah.

00:30:15.000 Whenever you have a problem with somebody, it's the people at the top.

00:30:17.000 Well, you give people a job like that.

00:30:19.000 Like, you've got to make sure nobody has a bomb.

00:30:21.000 Like, all right, you know, like, sir, listen to me, sir.

00:30:23.000 Like, people don't want to listen to you.

00:30:25.000 People naturally get a little bit douchey.

00:30:27.000 Everybody you meet is annoyed to meet you all day long.

00:30:31.000 They're annoyed to be in front of you.

00:30:38.000 So I think we need to figure out a way, first of all, to make it way less intrusive on people.

00:30:44.000 Definitely.

00:30:44.000 More realistic, too.

00:30:46.000 Like old people and babies and shit. 0.99

00:30:48.000 Really?

00:30:48.000 Is this baby a terrorist?

00:30:49.000 Yeah.

00:30:51.000 It's one of the only, for a lot of people, it's one of the only times where you meet the federal government face to face, representative of the federal government.

00:30:57.000 And it's normally not a pleasant encounter.

00:30:59.000 Like you said, they're annoyed.

00:31:01.000 You're either annoyed or scared.

00:31:03.000 It could be an awesome experience.

00:31:04.000 It could be like, wow, the government's looking out for me.

00:31:07.000 This is efficient.

00:31:08.000 This is a decent use of tax dollars.

00:31:10.000 But instead, I get the opposite feeling.

00:31:12.000 I'm disgusted every time I go through with that.

00:31:14.000 And it's the same with tourists.

00:31:16.000 People come to the U.S. and they don't want to come back because if you're a visitor, you get treated even worse.

00:31:21.000 You're automatically, you get the Kiefer Sutherland treatment.

00:31:24.000 And they think you're a threat until you prove otherwise.

00:31:27.000 Yeah.

00:31:29.000 We're a nation of cunts.

00:31:33.000 I don't think I'm not going to campaign on that.

00:31:35.000 Don't do it.

00:31:36.000 It wouldn't help.

00:31:37.000 But it's so frustrating.

00:31:39.000 It's really frustrating when you stop and think about it.

00:31:42.000 Could you imagine though if babies were terrorists?

00:31:45.000 Oh, gosh.

00:31:46.000 It's terrible.

00:31:47.000 The first terrible thing is that we have to worry about someone pulling a stunt like that dude did when he tried to light his underwear on fire.

00:31:55.000 What is he trying to do?

00:31:56.000 Light his shoes on fire?

00:31:57.000 Yeah, yeah, well, yeah.

00:31:58.000 From that guy on, everybody had to take their shoes off.

00:32:00.000 The thing with al-Qaeda is they really don't seem to try the same thing multiple times.

00:32:05.000 Like, 9-11 happened.

00:32:07.000 If we're going to just stick with the official story and not delve into alternative possibilities, which are definitely possibilities based on the research I've done.

00:32:15.000 But if you're going with the official story, this took them years to plan out.

00:32:20.000 And it worked not because they were geniuses.

00:32:22.000 It worked because it's like running up to the biggest kid on the playground and just unexpectedly kicking him in the nuts.

00:32:28.000 Like, that's going to work because he's not expecting It.

00:32:30.000 It's not going to work a second time or a third time, but they did something that was totally unexpected, and that's why it worked.

00:32:37.000 Not because they were brilliant masterminds.

00:32:39.000 And then they tried something completely different, the underwear bomb or the shoe bomb.

00:32:44.000 And that's it.

00:32:45.000 Next time, we shouldn't even be looking at airports.

00:32:47.000 Honestly, the next threat is going to be something, whatever it is, I would put my money on being something completely different from that.

00:32:54.000 Yeah, and then the idea is that the more rights they take away from us, the less likely that is to happen.

00:33:00.000 It's still a real bet, guys.

00:33:02.000 Real bet?

00:33:02.000 Yeah, real bet.

00:33:03.000 What, whether or not something's going to happen?

00:33:05.000 Is that illegal to bet on the next terrorist?

00:33:06.000 Just creepiest bet ever.

00:33:08.000 You fucking creepy bastard.

00:33:10.000 You can't do that, man.

00:33:12.000 You can't bet on shit.

00:33:13.000 Although there are, like, in London, there's that betting house where you can bet on anything.

00:33:17.000 You can be like, what are the odds that Madonna will get like an STD in the next 18 months?

00:33:22.000 Whatever it is, there's a wager on it.

00:33:24.000 England rules. 0.96

00:33:25.000 Doesn't Stanhope do that kind of stuff?

00:33:27.000 Like those crazy bets?

00:33:28.000 It's a good idea.

00:33:29.000 I'm sure he would.

00:33:31.000 Stanhope and I, by the way, are doing an end of the year, December 21st, end of the world, Mayan calendar apocalypse show in Hollywood.

00:33:41.000 We're going to do it at the Wiltern Theater in Hollywood.

00:33:44.000 It's going to be me, Joey Diaz, Stanhope, and Honey Honey.

00:33:48.000 Wow.

00:33:49.000 That's going to be so fucking great.

00:33:50.000 Yeah, we're working it all out now.

00:33:52.000 It'll be at the Wiltern December 21st.

00:33:54.000 I don't think tickets are not on sale yet, but it's going to be fucking crazy.

00:33:57.000 Oh, and we're at the ice house this weekend.

00:33:59.000 We had to cancel this show at Mandalay Bay because the UFC got canceled.

00:34:04.000 First time ever.

00:34:06.000 And so we moved the show to the ice house.

00:34:08.000 Friday is 10 o'clock, and Saturday is 10.30, I believe.

00:34:12.000 Or is it the other way?

00:34:14.000 It's around 10-ish.

00:34:15.000 Go to icehousecomedy.com to get tickets there at.

00:34:17.000 It's the greatest club in the world, this place.

00:34:19.000 It's run by the nicest people ever.

00:34:22.000 It's in Pasadena.

00:34:23.000 And the way this place is set up, it's basically the same club that was here in the 1960s.

00:34:29.000 It's amazing.

00:34:30.000 It's like a slice of history.

00:34:32.000 And we love it.

00:34:33.000 So we're here all the time.

00:34:34.000 So this weekend it'll be me, Joey, and Ari.

00:34:38.000 And it'll be just like a regular, real show.

00:34:40.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:34:42.000 Come on down. 0.94

00:34:43.000 So David Seaman, I'm sorry, we went off track there.

00:34:48.000 No, you've been off air for a while, right?

00:34:50.000 So you're trying to catch up.

00:34:52.000 Yeah, yeah, we were in vacation mode last week.

00:34:56.000 So you're running for Congress out of Florida.

00:35:01.000 Yes, sir.

00:35:01.000 And when you're doing that, what do you have to do?

00:35:04.000 How do you get your word out?

00:35:06.000 Do you go door to door?

00:35:08.000 How do you let people know?

00:35:09.000 Do you just put out internet videos?

00:35:11.000 Like, what's your method of never leave the apartment?

00:35:14.000 I never leave the apartment.

00:35:16.000 No, like, right now we're actually trying to build national awareness, so it does involve a lot of internet stuff and doing TV shows and local radio shows.

00:35:24.000 And that's the best way to hit people.

00:35:25.000 Like, it makes you sound like you're lazy when you're like, I just do that.

00:35:30.000 But I mean, we also go out and talk to actual people and shake hands and all that stuff.

00:35:34.000 But you do that, you're exhausted by the end of the day.

00:35:37.000 You've talked to some crazy people.

00:35:39.000 You've only made a difference.

00:35:41.000 You've made a difference of now 20 people know who you are versus like somebody's like, you want to do a radio show and like, you know, they call your cell phone and you lie and say it's a landline because they call your cell phone and you talk to some dude for 10 minutes and you're like, okay, now 10,000 people in this area know about my campaign.

00:35:58.000 That's a hell of a lot better than shaking hands with the crazy people.

00:36:01.000 Yeah.

00:36:02.000 But you need to do both because you can't be this disconnected like media personality.

00:36:06.000 You have to actually know what you're talking about.

00:36:08.000 Especially when somebody hits you with a local issue, you got to be right on top of that.

00:36:11.000 And the best way to know about that is by talking to people.

00:36:13.000 Yeah, that's a really good point, man.

00:36:15.000 So it's not either or.

00:36:16.000 It's both.

00:36:17.000 You've got to be hands-on, and you also have to be...

00:36:20.000 The online method of distribution is the new way.

00:36:23.000 I mean, for everything.

00:36:25.000 For stand-up comedy, for...

00:36:31.000 I mean, CNN and MSNBC won't have me.

00:36:34.000 I don't think they'll have me on because I've trashed them so many times on Twitter.

00:36:37.000 But there are a couple of cable networks that like me and have me on, and they're like my lifeblood for getting word out about this stuff, you know?

00:36:43.000 What is your main beef with mainstream news?

00:36:48.000 What is the main problem you have with it?

00:36:50.000 A total lack of sense of scale.

00:36:54.000 Like, they'll be like, we have controversial new tweets from Justin Bieber after the break.

00:37:00.000 You're like, this is really Fox News, or this is really MSNBC, you know?

00:37:04.000 Or like, Paul Ryan's budget plan might affect us in 10 years.

00:37:07.000 And you're like, okay, that's fine for a segment, but what about covering the massive protests that are happening around the country that I have to tune into on some live stream site that somebody sends me in an email?

00:37:17.000 And I see people not much older and not much younger than me getting the shit kicked out of them, especially girls for some reason. 0.91

00:37:24.000 And this is all happening.

00:37:24.000 I see a lot of that.

00:37:25.000 I'm like, this is incredible.

00:37:27.000 And you look at the bottom and it's like 6,000 people watching, 7,000 people watching, 8,000 people watching.

00:37:31.000 And you're like, any second, this is going to be on CNN.

00:37:34.000 And I've done this a million times.

00:37:35.000 You turn on the TV and you're like, okay, say something about the protests.

00:37:38.000 Not a single word.

00:37:39.000 And it starts to creep you out.

00:37:40.000 You're like, maybe they know about this and they're just not saying anything.

00:37:43.000 Because a lot of people send in tips.

00:37:44.000 A lot of people tweet CNN and email CNN and email producers there.

00:37:50.000 Like, I know how to work with TV producers.

00:37:52.000 And for some reason, those handful of networks just don't want to cover what's happening in this country.

00:37:56.000 They don't want to cover civil unrest.

00:37:58.000 They don't want to cover police beating people.

00:38:00.000 And they don't want to cover anything that Congress has been working on over the past eight months.

00:38:04.000 I have not heard much coverage of this stuff.

00:38:08.000 Yeah, it's disturbing when you find out how many different places are experiencing this massive amount of civil unrest, too.

00:38:14.000 It's happening all over the world.

00:38:15.000 They think they can just control it.

00:38:17.000 Until it's on the evening news, it's not really a thing.

00:38:20.000 Like somebody might post about it on Twitter or Facebook, but you're able to.

00:38:24.000 It's not legit.

00:38:24.000 Yeah, you're able to cognitively be like, well, that's just Chris or that's just Amy.

00:38:28.000 They've always been weirdos, you know?

00:38:30.000 And then once it's on TV, it's real because it's this collective thing.

00:38:34.000 And just a quick shout out.

00:38:38.000 Current TV and RT America have kicked ass.

00:38:41.000 They're actually covering this stuff.

00:38:43.000 They're covering the protests.

00:38:44.000 They've been covering NDAA and SOPA and CIPA and all of these crazy bills that Congress is working on.

00:38:51.000 They're actually doing what all the TV networks used to do.

00:38:54.000 Well, you know what we can do is all of us can start paying attention to them and not paying attention to CNN.

00:38:59.000 Exactly.

00:39:00.000 We have to figure out who the fuck has a Nielsen box.

00:39:04.000 Get inside that guy's head and go, listen, man.

00:39:06.000 Well, CNN's ratings are down tremendously.

00:39:08.000 They're down like 50% over the past year.

00:39:10.000 Really?

00:39:10.000 50%.

00:39:11.000 That's because people just don't buy it anymore.

00:39:12.000 They're always going to have that person out there who wants to watch a political shout fest, you know?

00:39:18.000 But there are a lot of people who would just rather look for news on Twitter, look for news on Google News.

00:39:24.000 I mean, at least Google News.

00:39:25.000 You type in protest and you see real articles about what's happening.

00:39:29.000 So it's a better way to get your information.

00:39:31.000 Do you think what's happening is that because of the spread of information through the internet, we've realized how they've done business as usual the whole time.

00:39:38.000 They have denied attention to a lot of really important things, but we didn't have any other way to get the information out.

00:39:46.000 Like if there's something happening in the Congo, like I didn't know anything about Liberia until I watched A Vice Guide to Liberia.

00:39:53.000 And I was like, holy shit.

00:39:55.000 Like what a crazy part of the world this is.

00:39:59.000 Why didn't I get that from any other sources?

00:40:02.000 Well, no other sources had it on.

00:40:03.000 It was not on CNN.

00:40:05.000 I mean, they wouldn't air a show like that.

00:40:07.000 It's almost like in them having the power, they ultimately became corrupt.

00:40:13.000 Even if you have your idea is that you want to do some sort of a news thing.

00:40:19.000 If you're not monitored, if no one knows, like in the day, now everything is so transparent.

00:40:25.000 But back then, you weren't monitored.

00:40:28.000 You put on whatever you wanted to put on, whether the government told you to put on, whatever deals you'd made to put on.

00:40:32.000 Yeah.

00:40:34.000 I think you're partially right.

00:40:35.000 I think part of the reason why we feel like there's so much bad stuff going on today is that we have access to it.

00:40:41.000 And back then you had three TV networks, not even cable.

00:40:44.000 You just had the three networks.

00:40:46.000 And they told you what you were supposed to be worried about.

00:40:48.000 And that was it.

00:40:49.000 How else are you going to get information?

00:40:50.000 The newspapers, same thing there.

00:40:52.000 But I think also there's a big aspect of it that things really are accelerating and getting worse.

00:40:57.000 Some of the things they're drafting in Congress are things that a previous generation would have just said, hell no.

00:41:03.000 The people in Congress wouldn't have thought of drafting it, and people hearing about it one way or another would have not tolerated it.

00:41:10.000 We have a much higher tolerance right now for corruption and for bad legislation than we used to.

00:41:15.000 Is that because we're too distracted?

00:41:17.000 What is that?

00:41:18.000 I mean, that's my guess is we're distracted.

00:41:18.000 You think?

00:41:21.000 And things are still good right now.

00:41:23.000 For a lot of people, like, if you can pay your rent and you can watch 100 channels online or on cable, you're constantly entertained.

00:41:31.000 And as long as you're not starving and as long as you're not bored, you're not going to go out in the streets and protest losing your right to a trial or losing any of these things that we've lost over the past eight months.

00:41:41.000 And that's what a lot of people don't realize, this National Defense Authorization Act that got passed, which is what really is, is an act of treason.

00:41:48.000 I mean, you could think of no other way to describe it.

00:41:51.000 It appears to be high treason.

00:41:52.000 Like, that's what I'm saying.

00:41:53.000 Like, if in the 60s or the 70s, if the people found out that, oh, by the way, Kennedy drafted something that would take away your right to a trial and allow him to imprison you on suspicion alone for the rest of your life, people would be like, what?

00:42:08.000 No way.

00:42:09.000 And it's supposed to be that we're supposed to trust them.

00:42:11.000 They're only going to use it on people who deserve it.

00:42:13.000 They're only going to do it on bad guys.

00:42:15.000 It doesn't happen.

00:42:16.000 Don't worry about it, Mike.

00:42:17.000 It's not about you.

00:42:18.000 We're just worried about terrorists.

00:42:20.000 We're not going to use it.

00:42:21.000 Says who.

00:42:23.000 And also, that's not the role of the government in the first place.

00:42:26.000 It's like, I'm going to have your girlfriend in my bed, but don't worry about it. 1.00

00:42:29.000 Nothing's going to happen.

00:42:30.000 It's like, well, that's not an option in the first place.

00:42:32.000 You know, you doing these things is not something that's constitutional to begin with, so your intentions don't really matter.

00:42:38.000 It's frightening that that could ever get passed.

00:42:40.000 It's really frightening.

00:42:42.000 And it just shows you how when people are in power, when they're in positions of power, they do everything they possibly can to hold it.

00:42:48.000 And when you sense a trend of this, the trend is information is coming in and people are having much more access to all sorts of things.

00:42:56.000 And ultimately, the internet is going to represent how people communicate and how people express anything, whether it's voting, whether it's deciding.

00:43:05.000 I mean, that's how it should be.

00:43:06.000 It should be polls.

00:43:08.000 We should be able to figure out how to make each human being have a bio-identifiable characteristic, whether it's looking in their eyes or registering their finger.

00:43:17.000 Everybody should have that shit on their fucking laptop.

00:43:19.000 And we should all be able to vote online, because then things would be a whole lot different.

00:43:23.000 That is the future, and they don't have that yet.

00:43:26.000 And it's real close.

00:43:28.000 So these fucking assholes that are running things are just holding on tooth and claw.

00:43:33.000 And the way they're doing that is by pulling rights away.

00:43:36.000 And they're doing it under the guise of helping us, which is fucking disgusting.

00:43:42.000 It is.

00:43:42.000 And I have a theory that I've never said anywhere else before.

00:43:45.000 But you were talking about how they're taking away rights.

00:43:48.000 People are kind of wising up and they're no longer tolerating it because information's getting out.

00:43:53.000 I wouldn't stake my reputation on this, but my theory is that it got to the point with Bush, eight years of Bush, to where they knew that the people just were not having it anymore.

00:44:04.000 They're sick of funding wars.

00:44:05.000 They're sick of this Patriot Act stuff.

00:44:07.000 The whole thing, right?

00:44:09.000 And then Obama came along, draped in hope and change and very positive message.

00:44:14.000 And people put their support behind him and thought they were getting something brand new.

00:44:19.000 And when really he's backed by the same people who backed Bush, essentially the same kinds of interests.

00:44:24.000 And so you had a couple of years there where people let their guard down.

00:44:28.000 And meanwhile, the same stuff has been happening, taking away more rights.

00:44:31.000 The Patriot Act has not stopped being used.

00:44:34.000 300,000 people have been, around 300,000 people have been served NSLs.

00:44:39.000 And they might be spying on hundreds of millions of Americans.

00:44:42.000 I had so much more confidence in us when I was really young during the Clinton administration.

00:44:48.000 I had so much more confidence in what the government would and wouldn't do to its civilians, to its civilization.

00:44:55.000 I remember this girl in my class, her dad worked on the Hubble Space Telescope.

00:45:01.000 And he came to our school to talk about it.

00:45:04.000 And there was a camera crew there from the TV stations and stuff.

00:45:08.000 I remember thinking, how cool this is.

00:45:10.000 Government is funding this crazy thing that is going to make a difference and move us forward.

00:45:16.000 I say, this is amazing.

00:45:17.000 And now I don't feel that way about a lot of programs.

00:45:20.000 Now I'm constantly being sent articles where you're just kind of in disbelief.

00:45:26.000 You've probably read about this, the NDRP, the National Defense Resources Preparedness, executive order.

00:45:32.000 What is that?

00:45:33.000 So a reader sent this to me, and you always follow tips, regardless of what they are.

00:45:39.000 I read through this thing.

00:45:40.000 It's an executive order from Obama.

00:45:42.000 And I was like, this is bullshit.

00:45:45.000 This must be made up somehow.

00:45:47.000 But then I went on the White House website on whitehouse.gov, where they have to publish the executive orders word for word.

00:45:53.000 I read through it and I was like, whoa, this makes no sense.

00:45:55.000 He's claiming powers that no president should claim.

00:45:58.000 The ability to nationalize whole companies or nationalize industries and take personal property and land and really take and do whatever his administration wants.

00:46:09.000 All they have to do is claim they're preparing for a national emergency.

00:46:12.000 There doesn't have to be proof that there's a national emergency on the way.

00:46:16.000 There doesn't actually have to be a national emergency.

00:46:18.000 The national emergency can just be him declaring that there might be one.

00:46:22.000 The national emergency could be the threat of terrorism.

00:46:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:46:25.000 It could be just this looming threat of terrorism.

00:46:27.000 And then I'm sorry, but that's the scariest thing about having that sort of an enemy.

00:46:32.000 You can kind of claim it's everywhere.

00:46:34.000 Right.

00:46:34.000 Well, in the NDAA, part of the language is until hostilities end.

00:46:38.000 So what does that mean?

00:46:39.000 It's like when there's not a single violent person on the earth who ever commits a crime or turns to violence against innocent people, then we'll stop detaining people without a trial.

00:46:50.000 What is the exact language?

00:46:51.000 Until hostilities end.

00:46:52.000 Yeah, go on belligerentact.org.

00:46:55.000 I'm not affiliated with them, but it's just this one-page site that does a great job of breaking down the exact language.

00:47:01.000 Until hostilities end, that's so creepy.

00:47:03.000 Can you bring that up and read it?

00:47:05.000 Because they do a good job of highlighting.

00:47:07.000 What is it again?

00:47:08.000 It's belligerentact.org.

00:47:11.000 Because there are a lot of people, when I was covering this stuff, like, I want to see the exact language.

00:47:15.000 You don't know what you're talking about.

00:47:16.000 And I was like, well, this is based on the ACLU's analysis and Amnesty International's analysis and, you know, etc.

00:47:22.000 I still want to see the exact language.

00:47:22.000 They're like, I don't care.

00:47:24.000 Belligerent Act? 0.97

00:47:26.000 And that website does a good job of showing people, like, here are the exact words that were signed into law that affect you.

00:47:32.000 I don't want to read this, man.

00:47:33.000 I'm going to get depressed.

00:47:34.000 I can't get a lot of words.

00:47:36.000 You can't spell belligerent, you silly bitch. 1.00

00:47:40.000 Oh.

00:47:40.000 There's two L's.

00:47:47.000 Be contained indefinitely without trial.

00:47:49.000 Wow, this is so weird.

00:47:52.000 It makes it legal to incarcerate United States citizens without recourse to any form of judicial process.

00:47:58.000 Just that alone.

00:47:59.000 That's crazy.

00:48:02.000 Why do we have a judicial branch if you're not going to use it?

00:48:05.000 But the idea that you would allow someone to sign a law that says they can incarcerate United States citizens without recourse of any form.

00:48:14.000 There's nothing you can do.

00:48:16.000 They can lock you up for the rest of your life, and that's written down somewhere.

00:48:19.000 Just because it's written down somewhere, that doesn't mean it's not crazy.

00:48:24.000 The fact that they even thought that they could be able to pass that, that that would be something that you could put into law.

00:48:30.000 What, life in prison's not enough?

00:48:31.000 We already have that.

00:48:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:48:33.000 Well, it was like that Martin Luther King quote.

00:48:34.000 He talks about how he talked about how there's a difference between breaking the law and abiding.

00:48:43.000 I'm messing up his quote entirely, but basically, just because it's a law doesn't make it just.

00:48:47.000 And just because it's just, it might not necessarily be the law.

00:48:51.000 You might be doing something that's against the law, but it's the just thing to do.

00:48:54.000 And at the same time, a law might be profoundly unjust.

00:48:57.000 Just because somebody signed a piece of paper, as you said, that doesn't mean that we should ruin thousands of people's lives over it.

00:49:03.000 It's completely ridiculous.

00:49:04.000 And the only reason why it's here is because this is the old way.

00:49:09.000 This is the way things were done.

00:49:10.000 The way things were done, it was very difficult to change laws.

00:49:14.000 And things were written in fucking stone.

00:49:17.000 And that was what it was.

00:49:19.000 And people are evolving.

00:49:21.000 Culture is evolving.

00:49:23.000 Our understanding of our world is changing and ever moving forward.

00:49:27.000 And our laws should reflect that.

00:49:29.000 And it shouldn't be the opposite of that.

00:49:32.000 If there's a tightening down, well, that to me is a great example of how there's someone who doesn't get it.

00:49:39.000 And the someone who doesn't get it is the people that are actually running shit.

00:49:43.000 They have the wrong intentions.

00:49:44.000 They're not looking at this correctly.

00:49:46.000 You shouldn't be trying to tighten up.

00:49:48.000 You shouldn't be trying to help all the things that are fucked up about the world.

00:49:52.000 That's what we should be using our resources for.

00:49:53.000 And there's money in that as well, by the way.

00:49:56.000 There's jobs in that as well, by the way.

00:49:58.000 There's jobs in any direction you take.

00:49:59.000 I mean, the TSA is creating jobs.

00:50:02.000 I'd rather see people employ more people over at NASA.

00:50:07.000 I would like to see that, too.

00:50:08.000 I would like to see that much more than I would like to see us go into foreign countries and invade their soil. 0.99

00:50:13.000 But I think what's really scary to me is that people are allowed to make these decisions without the will of the American people behind them.

00:50:22.000 Part of this was literally drafted behind closed doors.

00:50:24.000 People have no input.

00:50:25.000 It's terrifying.

00:50:26.000 It's terrifying.

00:50:28.000 And how did you find out about this?

00:50:30.000 A reader sent me a thing about it, and it was a link to an article that Wired had done back in, I think, early December.

00:50:38.000 Might have even been November.

00:50:39.000 And so I did a YouTube video about it.

00:50:41.000 I did some articles.

00:50:42.000 And I felt like there's no way this thing will actually become law, but it's still disturbing.

00:50:46.000 I have to keep an eye on it and tell people about it.

00:50:49.000 And then Obama came out and said, his administration came out and said they were going to veto it.

00:50:55.000 And then I was like, all right, good.

00:50:56.000 This is what should happen.

00:50:57.000 Something ridiculous is proposed.

00:50:59.000 And they say, we're not signing this.

00:51:01.000 And then on New Year's Eve, while everybody's out drinking and not paying attention to these things, he signed it into law.

00:51:08.000 And then after that, he took some heat for that.

00:51:10.000 And he said, well, I'm not going to use what I just signed into law.

00:51:13.000 I'm not going to use that section.

00:51:14.000 And he issued a signing statement saying that he wasn't going to use it.

00:51:18.000 But the problem with that is it's not legally valid.

00:51:20.000 It's like doing something and then putting a post-it note on somebody's door saying, sorry about that.

00:51:24.000 Like the signing statement is not legally valid.

00:51:27.000 Not only that, he said he wouldn't sign it.

00:51:29.000 Why am I going to believe that he's not going to use it after he says he's not going to use it?

00:51:29.000 And he signed it.

00:51:32.000 And then it gets even worse because then it goes to federal court.

00:51:32.000 Right.

00:51:37.000 Plaintiffs, including a former war correspondent Chris Hedges, who used to work at the New York Times, and Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers.

00:51:47.000 These are pretty credible people.

00:51:48.000 These aren't like quacks, you know. 1.00

00:51:51.000 They filed a court case thinking with the intention of blocking this because they said that NDAA could basically endanger their safety and the safety of any journalist.

00:52:00.000 You know, if the government doesn't want you talking about something, let's just detain him without a trial.

00:52:03.000 Problem solved.

00:52:06.000 And the federal court judge, Catherine Forrest, ruled it unconstitutional.

00:52:10.000 So, again, it should have stopped there.

00:52:12.000 But Obama's administration, his lawyers, are now appealing that temporary injunction.

00:52:18.000 And so, every single step of the way, you're like, wait, if he doesn't want it, why does he keep pushing for it?

00:52:24.000 It's so disturbing.

00:52:26.000 It just reeks of corruption, and it reeks of the worst intentions.

00:52:32.000 It reeks of looking at us like we're sheep to be controlled.

00:52:36.000 Well, the intentions are to crush dissent.

00:52:38.000 To crush dissent.

00:52:39.000 There's the assumption that these protests will continue to grow in relevance and in size.

00:52:45.000 And there's the assumption that the economy, if there's not some kind of economic collapse, who knows?

00:52:50.000 It could just be years of slow employment and years of people being unsatisfied.

00:52:54.000 And even if that's not a total calamity, that's still a breeding ground for mass civil unrest.

00:53:01.000 And they think if we have this ability to imprison people without a trial, just on our say-so, that's going to crush dissent pretty fast.

00:53:08.000 The first thousand people will be arrested and put in prison.

00:53:10.000 That's the end of it.

00:53:11.000 No more protesters because nobody else is going to go out of their house.

00:53:14.000 Well, what's crazy, though, is that the people who are arresting the people are on the same side as those people.

00:53:19.000 They're just people that are working.

00:53:21.000 They're working folks.

00:53:22.000 The cops and the soldiers, those aren't the people pulling the fucking strings.

00:53:27.000 The people that are going to have to do the arresting, whether it's military police or whether it's regular police, those are just fucking citizens with jobs.

00:53:34.000 They're not the power problem.

00:53:36.000 They're not the people making the actual calls.

00:53:39.000 That's a small group of people that we could easily overpower.

00:53:43.000 Yeah.

00:53:43.000 Well, that's why.

00:53:45.000 I'm not calling for revolution.

00:53:47.000 When I have trouble with the TSA, well, now that I'm running for Congress, it's a little bit better because if they harass me too much, they're actually interfering with the democratic process.

00:53:57.000 They're making it so that I can't catch my flight and can't go to a fundraiser or can't go to a media interview.

00:54:02.000 That's a big deal, you know.

00:54:04.000 Has anyone ever done that?

00:54:05.000 No, it's been pretty good.

00:54:07.000 Do you worry about that?

00:54:08.000 I don't worry about it.

00:54:10.000 What I worry about is what I actually experience every time, which is I politely opt out of the new screeners because those give off radiation and they've been banned in Europe.

00:54:19.000 The European Union has banned this kind of scanner because they don't know the long-term health effects of shooting radiation into your body, backscatter radiation.

00:54:28.000 It's a different form of radiation than chest x-rays, I believe.

00:54:32.000 I'm not an expert on this, but it's different because it's doing a different thing.

00:54:35.000 It's taking a photo of basically the outside of you instead of just blasting right through your body to show your bones on an x-ray.

00:54:42.000 So as a result, it's a different kind of radiation.

00:54:44.000 And so anyway, these machines freak me out to the point where I don't want my testicles going through that every single time I get on a flight.

00:54:52.000 So I politely opt out, and there's a sign right there that says, if you'd like to opt out, let us know.

00:54:56.000 I opt out.

00:54:57.000 And then you're treated in a way that's not very good.

00:55:01.000 They say, we have an opt-out.

00:55:02.000 Sir, stand over there.

00:55:03.000 Like you've done something wrong, right?

00:55:04.000 It's not like, oh, okay, cool.

00:55:06.000 Just give us a second.

00:55:06.000 We'll get to it.

00:55:07.000 It's all about the attitude.

00:55:08.000 They say, we have an opt-out, stand over there.

00:55:10.000 And then travelers behind you see that going on.

00:55:13.000 And they're like, shit, I'm not going to opt out.

00:55:15.000 I'm just going to go through this thing.

00:55:16.000 And I'm going to let my kids go through it, too.

00:55:18.000 I think that's what they're trying to get.

00:55:19.000 Yeah, no, and then you get the invasive pat down, where you have to put your arms up by your sides, and you put your arms down after a couple minutes because you're tired, and you've just been on a long, or you're about to get on a long flight.

00:55:30.000 And they say, sir, hands back up.

00:55:33.000 You put them back up.

00:55:35.000 And the guy sticks his fingers down your belt.

00:55:41.000 Does he do like a scissors on the tip of your dick just a little bit? 0.98

00:55:43.000 He actually does touch the tip.

00:55:47.000 You feel pressure against the tip of your penis.

00:55:50.000 And that's too much for the government to be doing.

00:55:50.000 Wow.

00:55:52.000 That's not their role.

00:55:54.000 It's great that you're trying to keep us safe and trying to keep airport security at a high level.

00:55:59.000 That's not your role.

00:56:00.000 Nobody asked you to do that.

00:56:02.000 You shouldn't be doing that.

00:56:03.000 It's unconstitutional.

00:56:04.000 And so every time I'm like, should I just go through the fucking scanner and get it over with?

00:56:09.000 But every time I go, no, I have to hold to this.

00:56:11.000 Because if you give them a pass on this, then at what point do you just lose all of your compass there, you know?

00:56:20.000 Yeah, I could see people like pilots and people that actually don't have to go through it, right?

00:56:25.000 They have a different line.

00:56:26.000 They have a different line.

00:56:27.000 And also, if you pay something like $100, you can now get an expedited screening.

00:56:31.000 They do a background check beforehand.

00:56:33.000 I find that profoundly unconstitutional, too.

00:56:35.000 Because you're classing citizens.

00:56:36.000 What is this, the Titanic?

00:56:37.000 If you have extra disposable income, we're not going to screen you as closely as the masses.

00:56:42.000 It's ridiculous.

00:56:42.000 I couldn't agree more.

00:56:43.000 I think it's so weird.

00:56:44.000 I was in line the other day, and I was really tempted to do it because this dude just, there's a big-ass line.

00:56:50.000 This dude just walked in with that pre and snuck right through. 0.62

00:56:53.000 Didn't even have to take his shoes off.

00:56:55.000 It was like, but I was like, what kind of access do they have when you, what do they look for when you go and submit something like that?

00:57:04.000 You have to listen to your cell phone 24-7.

00:57:06.000 Yeah, is that what you're agreeing to?

00:57:07.000 Just so you can make sure.

00:57:10.000 Just about anyway.

00:57:12.000 Is that really happening?

00:57:13.000 So the NSA thing, there was a video about this on the New York Times website recently.

00:57:20.000 It was an amazing video.

00:57:21.000 It was like eight and a half minutes long, professionally produced, where they interviewed the NSA whistleblower, who everybody's kind of heard something about, but you don't know his actual, you know, what he's saying happened.

00:57:32.000 And this video lays it all out there.

00:57:33.000 It's amazing journalism.

00:57:35.000 I don't know why the New York Times didn't put it on their homepage where it belonged, but it still got out there.

00:57:39.000 It was on Reddit and all these social media sites.

00:57:42.000 And they did a good job of showing people that, I'll just boil it down.

00:57:46.000 This NSA whistleblower, his name is William Binney.

00:57:50.000 And he was at that agency for 32 years.

00:57:53.000 And he was actually the technical director there.

00:57:55.000 So he was pretty high up.

00:57:56.000 He wasn't like just an analyst or a janitor or something.

00:58:00.000 He knew what was going on.

00:58:01.000 And he's about as high up as you can get.

00:58:04.000 And so he says that after 9-11, the NSA went from using their incredible power to monitor stuff overseas, which is their mandate to do that, tap into satellite phones and tap in overseas internet traffic and all that stuff.

00:58:20.000 They went from doing that to turning this incredible surveillance weapon against our own people.

00:58:26.000 And it became a full-blown effort to record pretty much Everything that we're doing here in the U.S. And that includes every citizen who has access to the internet or a cell phone.

00:58:38.000 And the way they get around this, because it appears to be blatantly unconstitutional, the Fourth Amendment, against unreasonable searches and seizures, they have an interpretation from what the whistleblower was saying in this video or from the article.

00:58:52.000 They have an interpretation that we're not actually violating your Fourth Amendment rights because we're only taking this information in and storing it in our databases.

00:59:00.000 We're not actually, there's nobody with a pair of headphones and a computer screen in front of them who's watching you type every email and actually looking through all of your stuff.

00:59:09.000 We're just saving this.

00:59:11.000 The problem with that is it's saved and it's tied to your name.

00:59:15.000 And all they have to do, it's not a big logical leap to think, if you're running for Congress, you might be running on a platform where you want to defund some of these programs, they go, let's look into this guy, you know?

00:59:28.000 They type in your name, and they suddenly see all of your emails, all of your phone calls, all of your associations, because that's part of what it does.

00:59:34.000 It does threading and shows your community, who you talk to online, who you call on your cell phone.

00:59:40.000 Supposedly that's what this thing is capable of.

00:59:42.000 So it shows them all this information, and they can cherry-pick.

00:59:45.000 Maybe they go through an email from three years ago where jokingly I said with a friend, yeah, dude, fuck the U.S. You know, and then they just quote that.

00:59:54.000 They go, should this guy be running for Congress, you know, and like bring bogus charges against you?

00:59:59.000 There are so many ways they can screw you over when they have access to all of your information.

01:00:03.000 And so people out there go, they're not watching me.

01:00:07.000 And that's true.

01:00:07.000 Nobody with a pair of headphones is listening to your every word on the cell phone.

01:00:11.000 That's not how this is working.

01:00:12.000 Instead, it's being archived and giving them tremendous access to screw you over should you become a problem to them.

01:00:18.000 I think, again, that's a power the government shouldn't have.

01:00:21.000 I couldn't agree more.

01:00:23.000 And the government shouldn't want it.

01:00:25.000 Right.

01:00:25.000 I think the real issue is that we've developed an us versus them divide between the government and the people.

01:00:31.000 And it shouldn't be that at all.

01:00:33.000 It shouldn't be them defending their power position.

01:00:36.000 It should be they are us, and they are our representatives because they are us, and they're looking out for us legitimately.

01:00:43.000 And clearly that's been corrupted.

01:00:45.000 And that's not good for them.

01:00:46.000 It's not good for the people that are perpetrating this.

01:00:48.000 It's not good for you either, man.

01:00:50.000 You might be profiting off of it, but it's horrible for your life.

01:00:54.000 That's the only ray of, really the only ray of light here is that this program is so vast and Orwellian, to be honest, if what this whistleblower says is true, it's so vast that it's also archiving information on senators and representatives and FBI agents, people at the very top of government.

01:01:13.000 And those people don't really want that.

01:01:15.000 They don't want for some agency that's basically unaccountable to be able to screw them over at any point in the future.

01:01:22.000 So I think that's kind of the thing there that might save us in the end, is that some powerful people in DC might say, wait a second, this is totally ridiculous.

01:01:30.000 Well, I had always said that at the end of this technology connection that we have, it's going to rush upon us so quickly that you're not even going to know what hit you.

01:01:41.000 And then at a certain point in time, there will be no more privacy.

01:01:43.000 It won't exist.

01:01:44.000 And that would be something that you can get used to if it was two ways.

01:01:48.000 I no longer have any privacy.

01:01:49.000 This is the 21st century.

01:01:51.000 The government knows what I'm walking around on the sidewalk, and I better not be committing a crime against anybody else.

01:01:56.000 But in exchange, I want to see where our money's going.

01:01:59.000 I want to see why we need to still be in Afghanistan. 0.98

01:02:01.000 I want to see why you're funding a multi-billion dollar storage facility in Utah, which the NSA is going to be using to store all this data.

01:02:10.000 I want to see the numbers.

01:02:11.000 So this is going on right now.

01:02:12.000 It's absolutely happening right now.

01:02:14.000 It's not a plan.

01:02:15.000 No, no.

01:02:16.000 Can you actually bring up the New York Times video?

01:02:19.000 Sure.

01:02:20.000 Can you bring it up, Brian, so we can see it on the screen?

01:02:22.000 I'll try.

01:02:23.000 It's called The Program.

01:02:25.000 Dude, you're freaking me out, by the way.

01:02:27.000 Thanks.

01:02:28.000 This is like the first time.

01:02:30.000 I was hoping this would be a good opportunity to talk about this stuff.

01:02:33.000 What's it called again?

01:02:35.000 Say it again.

01:02:36.000 What's it called again?

01:02:37.000 The article is called The Program.

01:02:38.000 Just search for the program, William Binney, New York Times.

01:02:42.000 You've described it better than any I've heard anybody describe it in the most honest and ominous way.

01:02:48.000 Well, that's the thing about this, is it's not that right now.

01:02:48.000 Right.

01:02:52.000 By the way, the NSA supposedly employs more people than the CIA and the FBI combined.

01:03:00.000 So when people say they don't have the capacity to spy on you, actually they do.

01:03:03.000 They have the funding and they have the employees to do it.

01:03:06.000 And no, like they really aren't listening in on your every word like a Jason Bourne movie.

01:03:11.000 What they're doing.

01:03:12.000 There's the video.

01:03:16.000 And this is in Bluffdale, Utah, for folks that are looking at home or just looking at some frozen landscape.

01:03:21.000 And it says, following 9-11, the National Security Agency began a top-secret surveillance program to spy on U.S. citizens without warrants.

01:03:28.000 Code named Stellar Wind or the program to insiders, the full scope of the surveillance has not been made public.

01:03:36.000 It is raining.

01:03:37.000 In Severn, Maryland, there's a man who's doing heroin.

01:03:42.000 He's breaking different codes and data systems.

01:03:42.000 No, he needs glasses.

01:03:46.000 He's an NSA whistleblower.

01:03:47.000 Doing data on Benny.

01:03:50.000 The Soviet Union.

01:03:52.000 Benny worked at the NSA for 32 years.

01:03:55.000 He is regarded as one of the best mathematicians and code breakers in the NSA's history.

01:03:59.000 After 9-11, they took one of the programs I had done, or the back-end part of it, and started to use it to spy on everybody in this country.

01:04:09.000 So that was a program they created called Stellar Wind.

01:04:13.000 That was separate and compartmented from the regular activity that was ongoing because it was doing domestic spying.

01:04:21.000 All the equipment was coming in.

01:04:22.000 I knew something was happening.

01:04:23.000 But then when the contractors I had hired came and told me what they were doing, it was clear where all the hardware was going and what they were using it to do.

01:04:35.000 It was simply a different input.

01:04:37.000 Instead of being foreign, it was domestic input.

01:04:43.000 Somebody told me that they can listen to what we're saying by having this even if it's turned off.

01:04:48.000 Yes.

01:04:49.000 Here's the real grand design.

01:04:51.000 Every domain, think of a domain as an activity, a specific type of activity.

01:04:57.000 Phone calls.

01:04:59.000 Or banking is another Domain.

01:05:01.000 So if you think of graphing each domain and then each graph and turning it in the third dimension, the trick now is to map through all the domains in that third dimension, pulling together all the attributes that any individual has in every domain.

01:05:19.000 So that now I can pull your entire life together from all those domains and map it out and show your entire life over time.

01:05:30.000 Jesus Christ, this is crazy.

01:05:32.000 Should we watch this whole thing?

01:05:34.000 Oh, let's watch a little bit more.

01:05:36.000 More frozen landscape.

01:05:37.000 The NSA is currently building the country's biggest data storage facility in Bluffdale, Utah.

01:05:43.000 Yeah, you gotta watch the next two minutes because he talks about when the FBI raided him.

01:05:47.000 So.

01:05:48.000 Benny calculates the facility as a capacity to store 100 years worth of the world's electronic communications.

01:05:57.000 I don't understand why you're not raiding.

01:05:59.000 Why should I be?

01:05:59.000 I don't because if what you're saying was possible, it would be revolutionary and people would have a vested interest in preventing that from happening.

01:06:07.000 I'm too old.

01:06:09.000 I'm too old.

01:06:11.000 Whoa.

01:06:13.000 That I'm too old.

01:06:14.000 That's a scary thing to say.

01:06:16.000 I'm not sure how many of you got a chance to hear Keith Alexander yesterday, the head of the NSA, talk about the NSA's activities.

01:06:25.000 Bill, how do you reconcile, is there some way to reconcile General Alexander's statement that the NSA isn't keeping track of every American with the existence of a facility like the one in Utah?

01:06:37.000 NSA's charter, and it was a legitimate one, was to do foreign intelligence, and I was with that all the way, and I did the best I could in that job.

01:06:44.000 Unfortunately, they took those programs that I built and turned them on you, and I'm sorry for that.

01:06:49.000 I didn't intend that.

01:06:50.000 But they did that.

01:06:51.000 What you're describing really is hard to reconcile with the laws, as the laws are generally understood by the lawyers who work with them.

01:06:59.000 Most people are familiar with the Webster's definition of intercept.

01:07:03.000 USID 18 has a different definition, and that's an intercept doesn't take place until it's actually listened to, until somebody puts on some earphones or actually reads some text on a screen.

01:07:15.000 So you can pull in all the communications you want.

01:07:19.000 The acquisition isn't the search.

01:07:21.000 The querying later on is the search.

01:07:23.000 They can then keep it in their database and target after the fact by going back and conducting data mining searches afterward, in other words, to get the information that they couldn't target from the outset.

01:07:32.000 And there is another real problem.

01:07:36.000 Unfortunately, the software will, once it takes in data, it will build profiles on everybody in that data.

01:07:44.000 I really feel like Olive.

01:07:44.000 Jesus Christ.

01:07:46.000 The purpose is to be able to monitor.

01:07:48.000 That's all they're going to know about me.

01:07:51.000 Sorry to bring the vibe down by recommending this video, by the way.

01:07:54.000 Well, it's not bringing the vibe down.

01:07:55.000 This has been haunting my dreams.

01:07:56.000 Like, this is real.

01:07:57.000 Yeah, but do you think most people have to worry about this, like caring that they do this about?

01:08:01.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:08:02.000 Turn this down.

01:08:06.000 And if you carry it over time from 2001 up, you have that 10 years worth of their life that you could lay out in a timeline.

01:08:13.000 That involves anybody in the country.

01:08:17.000 Even senators and House of Representatives, all of them.

01:08:21.000 The dangers here are that we fall into something like a totalitarian state like East Germany. 0.82

01:08:26.000 In July 2007, the FBI raided the homes of Benny and two other NSA whistleblowers.

01:08:32.000 Well, they came in guns drawn, you know, in my house.

01:08:34.000 They didn't do that to the others, but they did to me. 0.50

01:08:36.000 I guess I don't know.

01:08:37.000 They thought I was probably the most dangerous of all, so I don't know.

01:08:40.000 I don't know what was in their mind.

01:08:41.000 It's okay.

01:08:43.000 So, but they did that, and they came in and pointed a gun at me when I was getting out of the shower at the time, so they pointed a gun right at my old head, you know, and said, hey.

01:08:51.000 So, Jesus Christ.

01:08:54.000 I wasn't too upset.

01:08:55.000 I just said, yeah, I suppose I could get dressed here.

01:09:01.000 They weren't intimidating me anyway.

01:09:03.000 Tell me something that will implicate somebody in a crime.

01:09:06.000 That's what they asked me.

01:09:07.000 So I told them what the crime was that I knew about.

01:09:09.000 And that was that George Bush, Dick Cheney, Tennant, and Hayden conspired to subvert the constitution, the constitutional process, and any number of laws.

01:09:20.000 And I explained Stellar Wind on my back porch to all the FBI agents who weren't cleared.

01:09:20.000 And here's how they did it.

01:09:26.000 So they had a problem.

01:09:28.000 I created a problem for them because they had a bunch of people now who weren't cleared for a very highly classified, only because it was domestic spying, by the way, was the reason it was highly classified.

01:09:38.000 They wanted to highly classify the extreme impeachable crimes that they were committing.

01:09:44.000 Top Justice Department officials threatened to resign in 2004 because Stellar Wind violated the law.

01:09:50.000 Their legal objections to the program are not.

01:09:52.000 It needs to be out of the open.

01:09:53.000 We should take turns in.

01:09:54.000 Democracy, we need to say do we want our government to have this data or not?

01:10:02.000 And if so, if we want them to have it, then what kind of controls?

01:10:05.000 And they have to be a little bit more visible.

01:10:07.000 It can't all be done in secret.

01:10:08.000 You can't have secret interpretations of laws and run them in secret and not tell anybody.

01:10:13.000 Or can't make up kill lists and not tell anybody what the criteria is for being a kill list.

01:10:19.000 Okay, it's raining again.

01:10:21.000 That's very, very disturbing.

01:10:23.000 That just really fucked my head sideways.

01:10:25.000 Yeah, well, when I saw that, my initial reaction was, why isn't this on the homepage of the New York Times?

01:10:29.000 Like, they're putting their name behind this.

01:10:30.000 This is real journalism.

01:10:32.000 It just came out like last week.

01:10:34.000 This should be everywhere.

01:10:36.000 That's the problem I have, by the way, with some of the mainstream media.

01:10:40.000 People have tweeted this video out to everybody.

01:10:43.000 It's gotten out in the media, and for some reason, they're like, oh, this isn't news.

01:10:46.000 We're just going to run with Kim Kardashian was stumbling out of some nightclub.

01:10:49.000 And by the way, they might be spying on every single person, but it's not important.

01:10:53.000 Holy shit.

01:10:54.000 Well, it's not they might be.

01:10:56.000 It seems like they are.

01:10:58.000 The only credibility issue is it comes down to do you believe William Benny and the other whistleblower, Thomas Drake?

01:11:05.000 If this guy is full of shit, then the whole story is called into question.

01:11:08.000 But the problem is he was very high-ranking.

01:11:10.000 He was there for 32 years, and they don't let psychos work at the NSA.

01:11:13.000 They do some pretty serious psychological background stuff, from what I understand.

01:11:17.000 The other thing on top of that is this guy was a respected, brilliant mathematician.

01:11:21.000 He's like a John Nash.

01:11:23.000 This isn't some dumb dude who got caught up in some paranoia.

01:11:27.000 It's more like, although I guess John Nash did exactly Do that.

01:11:30.000 But the point is, he's a very smart guy.

01:11:32.000 He was working at a high level.

01:11:33.000 And despite how intelligent he is, he realized: wait a second, this is just profoundly wrong.

01:11:38.000 And it's not our mandate.

01:11:40.000 It's not what we should be doing.

01:11:41.000 And I love the fact that he explained it all to the cops as they arrested him.

01:11:46.000 That's the other thing.

01:11:47.000 FBI agents are already pretty high up in terms of clearance level.

01:11:50.000 And the fact that it blew their minds, and they're like, wait, what is this Stellar Wind program?

01:11:54.000 That's scary stuff.

01:11:55.000 Yeah, it is scary stuff.

01:11:57.000 And the beautiful thing is when he does explain them, I mean, if you listen to that guy talk, when he did explain it to them, I'm sure it made a lot of them question why they were arresting him and question whether or not he was in fact a patriot and not a bad guy.

01:12:11.000 Right.

01:12:11.000 Like, why are you not a man?

01:12:12.000 By the way, that's a red flag word.

01:12:14.000 Why is this old man in the shower a threat to our security? 1.00

01:12:17.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous.

01:12:18.000 I mean, because he's a super mathematician.

01:12:20.000 What is he?

01:12:20.000 A fucking Batman comic book character?

01:12:22.000 He's going to fucking develop some mathematical formula to overthrow the world by hacking into your email account.

01:12:28.000 Come on.

01:12:28.000 Yeah, that video has been haunting my dreams, though.

01:12:30.000 That's insane.

01:12:31.000 And it's been like, it's kind of, it tells you about your friends.

01:12:34.000 Like, I've been emailing it to people.

01:12:36.000 And when I get an email back saying, holy shit, that's terrifying.

01:12:38.000 Like, good thing you're running for Congress.

01:12:40.000 Ha ha.

01:12:41.000 And then I'm like, I'm like.

01:12:43.000 You're screwed.

01:12:45.000 There are real stakes involved.

01:12:46.000 People don't get it.

01:12:47.000 Like, if you want to keep the same representatives you have now who are supportive of this stuff, good luck.

01:12:52.000 Well, the point is.

01:12:54.000 Sorry, to catch you.

01:12:56.000 Sometimes you get an email back or somebody's like, whatever, dude.

01:12:59.000 They just don't care.

01:13:00.000 And I'm like, how far gone are you that you don't care about this?

01:13:04.000 Yeah, those people are silly.

01:13:05.000 I care about it, but I don't think I do anything really insanely wrong where I'm fearing it.

01:13:11.000 You know what I mean?

01:13:12.000 I mean, I don't think it's that big of a deal.

01:13:14.000 It sucks if it's true.

01:13:15.000 I wish I would say no, don't do it.

01:13:16.000 Okay, right.

01:13:17.000 But let me paint a scenario for you.

01:13:18.000 Let me paint a scenario for you.

01:13:20.000 Since you always date all these lovely ladies. 0.94

01:13:22.000 What if one of your lovely ladies had come in? 1.00

01:13:24.000 You got to take a leak?

01:13:25.000 What if one of your lovely ladies had come in contact with a certain politician who had a very high-ranking position, and this guy just decided that he wanted to bang your wife, so he gets you locked up and put in jail, and you have no recourse. 1.00

01:13:37.000 And he pulls up some email where you said, you know, something crazy, you know, 10 years ago, joking and completely trolling.

01:13:44.000 But because of the fact that he actually has this written down into your name, they can arrest you.

01:13:48.000 I know.

01:13:49.000 That's insane.

01:13:50.000 It is insane, but it's something that they would be able to do.

01:13:53.000 Yeah, but that's crazy.

01:13:54.000 You know, I was watching CNN the other night.

01:13:56.000 It's not that crazy.

01:13:57.000 And this is why.

01:13:58.000 I was watching CNN the other night, and they had a guy who is a cop who is under questioning for two people's deaths.

01:14:05.000 And they think he might have been like a sometime serial killer.

01:14:09.000 And that this cop, there's two people that disappeared.

01:14:14.000 And he had the same story for both of them.

01:14:15.000 That he had dropped them off at the Circle K. And one of them was a Mexican guy who couldn't speak English.

01:14:22.000 And the other one was this black guy.

01:14:25.000 And they think that this cop might have killed these people.

01:14:28.000 And why did he do it?

01:14:29.000 Because he could.

01:14:30.000 Because he could.

01:14:30.000 Because he had the power.

01:14:31.000 He's in that position.

01:14:32.000 He had a gun pull over.

01:14:33.000 The lights go on.

01:14:35.000 He calls in the thing.

01:14:36.000 He calls in the car and said that he had two totally different stories.

01:14:41.000 In one story, he found the car abandoned.

01:14:43.000 And in the other story, he actually did a background check on the guy.

01:14:47.000 So he actually called in a background check.

01:14:51.000 The whole thing is the guy turns out missing.

01:14:53.000 And he has this kakamami story about taking the guy to the Circle K and calling the Circle K, and that record's not on his phone.

01:15:01.000 He has an official phone.

01:15:03.000 What I'm saying is that this guy was a cop that just decided to kill people.

01:15:06.000 Why?

01:15:06.000 Because he had the power.

01:15:08.000 If you get some guy, some high position of power, one of those little sweet pieces of ass that you carry around, dude, you never know. 0.78

01:15:14.000 Motherfucker might just turn on.

01:15:14.000 You never know.

01:15:16.000 You can't let someone.

01:15:18.000 You cannot let someone have that kind of power.

01:15:20.000 There's no reason for it.

01:15:22.000 There's plenty of recourse right now if someone does something wrong.

01:15:24.000 We don't need to up the amount of power that the government has over us.

01:15:28.000 I guess I have way big of a, I have a positive, not that negative feeling.

01:15:33.000 You're probably being delusional.

01:15:34.000 Yeah, I like being delusional.

01:15:36.000 But you know what?

01:15:36.000 I was in Ohio, which I forgot how bad the police state in Ohio was.

01:15:41.000 Like everywhere you go, you saw cops.

01:15:44.000 On an hour drive from Columbus to Dayton, I had seven cop cars pulled on the side of the road with the guns pointing at your cars, you know, that smooth trap thing.

01:15:52.000 Seven.

01:15:53.000 And then one night I was hanging out with Burke Kreischer at his shows.

01:15:57.000 I did it at a spot.

01:15:58.000 And I had a couple drinks, you know, at the show.

01:16:01.000 I was going to go to McDonald's and go to my hotel.

01:16:03.000 So I go to McDonald's, go through the drive-thru.

01:16:05.000 I'm going to park my car, you know, to eat it.

01:16:08.000 And the parking lot was too crowded for McDonald's.

01:16:10.000 So there was like another parking lot attached to it.

01:16:12.000 It was like a big boy that was, and it was closed.

01:16:15.000 So I just pull right through, you know, right out of the drive-thru, right into it, you know, with my lights on, eating my McGriddle.

01:16:21.000 And suddenly two cop cars, both sides, lights on, like, and they're like, sir, what are you doing in your car?

01:16:27.000 And I'm like, they're like shining lights on my face.

01:16:30.000 And I'm like, I'm eating a McGriddle.

01:16:32.000 You know, and I show it to them out the window.

01:16:34.000 And they came up to my car and they goes, let me see your license.

01:16:37.000 And I showed him my license.

01:16:39.000 And it was just like, holy shit, man.

01:16:41.000 Like, now what they're going to make me do a drunk test.

01:16:43.000 And because I had three beers in the last two hours, like, now I'm ready to do UI because I'm sitting here eating a McGriddle.

01:16:49.000 And then he's asking me all these questions, like, what are you doing?

01:16:52.000 I'm like, I did comedy tonight at, you know, Funnybone.

01:16:55.000 And he goes, he's like, oh, how was it?

01:16:58.000 And he goes, you've been drinking tonight?

01:16:58.000 And I'm like, it was fine.

01:17:00.000 And I go, no.

01:17:01.000 That was the first time I ever said no.

01:17:02.000 Like, I had three drinks, but I'm like, I'm just going to say no this time because I had McGriddle all over my face.

01:17:07.000 And I was still eating when he's asking me these questions.

01:17:10.000 I played it off of like, what the fuck are you doing, dude?

01:17:13.000 Like, I was like, you know, and so I'm rubbing McGriddle all over my face.

01:17:16.000 And he goes, okay, you're free to go.

01:17:20.000 And I'm like, free to go for doing what?

01:17:22.000 I'm parked in my car eating a McGriddle.

01:17:24.000 You came up with me.

01:17:24.000 They always make you feel like you're in the wrong, but they let you get away this time.

01:17:28.000 And they're us.

01:17:29.000 They're us.

01:17:30.000 They're not the Illuminati.

01:17:31.000 That's what's the most fucked up thing about it.

01:17:33.000 You give people arbitrary power over other people.

01:17:36.000 Exactly.

01:17:37.000 That's why you can't have laws like that, folks. 0.99

01:17:39.000 Dayton police.

01:17:40.000 You can't have it.

01:17:41.000 We give you nice things and you break them.

01:17:43.000 You can't have that.

01:17:44.000 And it's not good for them either.

01:17:46.000 It's not good for you to be in a position like that over people.

01:17:48.000 It's not good for your karma.

01:17:49.000 And at the end of the day, you're unhappy because I've found this.

01:17:54.000 If you treat other people in a shitty way, it may be for a short amount of time you get that little ego high.

01:17:59.000 But over time, dude, It's like you pay for it.

01:18:01.000 It comes back like a waterfall of suck and crushes you with the rebound.

01:18:06.000 It always does.

01:18:07.000 There's no way to live.

01:18:08.000 These people.

01:18:09.000 And by the way, that's not the only way to get rich.

01:18:11.000 Look at Ted Turner.

01:18:12.000 I bet that guy's got plenty of money, right?

01:18:14.000 He actually owns CNN.

01:18:16.000 Yeah, but he's beat.

01:18:17.000 No, no, he's out.

01:18:18.000 I think he's disgusted with it.

01:18:20.000 Maybe that's why it's so fucked up.

01:18:21.000 Yeah, like he sold it to, I guess, like AOL Time Warner became this big thing.

01:18:28.000 I shouldn't use him as an example anyway, because quite honestly, I don't really know that much about his past.

01:18:33.000 but he always seemed like he wasn't a bad guy, just like a smart businessman.

01:18:39.000 That's a much better example.

01:18:40.000 Thank you.

01:18:40.000 Richard Branner.

01:18:41.000 Branson seems like some kind of crazy billionaire in a movie.

01:18:45.000 Like, I'm going to get in a balloon and travel the globe.

01:18:49.000 I'm going to get a spaceship and go to Mars.

01:18:52.000 I mean, he really does seem like that guy.

01:18:54.000 Yeah, and he's a fucking super, super, super super.

01:18:56.000 Did you read his article about drug policy?

01:18:59.000 No, I did not.

01:19:00.000 Incredible.

01:19:01.000 Oh, I did.

01:19:02.000 On the Virgin corporate website.

01:19:04.000 So he puts his corporate name behind it, virgin.com.

01:19:07.000 He put this letter saying, you know, we should all look at the Portugal decriminalization project.

01:19:13.000 The past 10 years, they're doing decriminalization.

01:19:15.000 Is this about a year ago he did this?

01:19:15.000 It works.

01:19:18.000 Maybe a little bit less than that, around then.

01:19:20.000 When he did that, people were like, okay, we have to actually look at this study because he's a serious guy.

01:19:25.000 A lot of people don't realize that Portugal decriminalized all drugs.

01:19:28.000 Was it a decade ago?

01:19:29.000 Yeah.

01:19:30.000 A decade ago, essentially, made it so that everything's legal.

01:19:33.000 And what's crazy is that their violent crime has dropped.

01:19:37.000 Their rates of addiction have dropped.

01:19:40.000 Clinics have less people in them that need help that are addicted. 0.94

01:19:44.000 It's kind of amazing.

01:19:45.000 It's when you let people, you know, you don't try to nanny state the fucking world.

01:19:50.000 People have this weird thing where if you tell them they can't do something, they want to do it.

01:19:55.000 It's weird.

01:19:56.000 When something's illegal, it makes it intoxicating.

01:19:59.000 It makes it exciting for people.

01:20:02.000 Well, and there are also some things that are so good that even if they're illegal, you're going to try it anyway.

01:20:06.000 Sure.

01:20:07.000 Booze.

01:20:08.000 I mean, they tried that.

01:20:09.000 They tried, you know, for the best.

01:20:11.000 What a fuck up that was.

01:20:12.000 That's another example of legislation where you have good intentions, but nobody did the math on it.

01:20:17.000 And really not even good intentions, because you can't tell people what to ingest in the privacy of their own home.

01:20:22.000 I understand their point.

01:20:23.000 I understand the point of the really clean, straight-edge people.

01:20:26.000 I have friends that are straight-edge.

01:20:27.000 But it's fine.

01:20:28.000 They shouldn't have to impose it on the whole country.

01:20:30.000 You're right.

01:20:31.000 But what they think is that it worked for them, and there's no way it could be different for you.

01:20:37.000 In your case, if you're drinking, if you like to go out and do shots and hang out with Burt Kreischer, you're having a problem.

01:20:43.000 You've got a problem.

01:20:44.000 And, you know, obviously I don't agree with that, but I see where their intentions come from.

01:20:48.000 I see why they wanted to try to do it in the first place.

01:20:50.000 They wanted to try to clean up America. 0.91

01:20:51.000 America, even back then, in the 1920s, was filled with sin.

01:20:54.000 It was the roaring 20s.

01:20:55.000 Everybody was fucking nuts.

01:20:57.000 They were having these speakeasies.

01:20:58.000 They get together and bang.

01:21:00.000 They were animals.

01:21:00.000 It was craziness.

01:21:01.000 It looked pretty awesome, actually.

01:21:02.000 Looked fucking fantastic.

01:21:04.000 No texting.

01:21:06.000 All you can have to say is, I don't know what she's talking about.

01:21:08.000 And you were done.

01:21:09.000 You were out of it.

01:21:10.000 There was no age though.

01:21:11.000 That ain't my kid.

01:21:12.000 You agreed to meet somebody and you just met them.

01:21:14.000 There was no last-minute changes.

01:21:17.000 And how do you meet them again?

01:21:18.000 You have to find where they live.

01:21:19.000 That's why cities were so beneficial.

01:21:21.000 There was no communication.

01:21:22.000 There's no phones.

01:21:23.000 You had to find where they lived.

01:21:24.000 I don't know how people got around before.

01:21:26.000 How do people get around before the maps on phones?

01:21:28.000 Well, I remember living in Boston and meeting people and walking everywhere.

01:21:34.000 I mean, I remember when I was a kid from high school on, like, we fucking walked everywhere.

01:21:39.000 We would walk like miles to the T, to the train to get into Boston.

01:21:45.000 We would just walk miles.

01:21:47.000 Kids today don't do that kind of shit.

01:21:50.000 There's no kids walking miles.

01:21:51.000 They're texting each other.

01:21:52.000 They don't have to go and meet each other in person.

01:21:54.000 They don't have to go and hope they run into each other.

01:21:56.000 We didn't even have answering machines.

01:21:58.000 You call people if they weren't home.

01:22:00.000 Tough shit.

01:22:02.000 It's been a weird thing for me as a human being to have come of age, to be a teenager with the invention of the answering machine and seeing that and going, wow, I mean, somebody can fucking leave a message and you're not even here?

01:22:14.000 Like, what a mind-blower that was for me to seeing this video of what kind of information is being and how much they can know about you.

01:22:22.000 Every credit card transaction.

01:22:23.000 Well, I think that's the other thing about your saying earlier about like, were things really, maybe things were just as bad back then, but we didn't know about it because we didn't have the internet.

01:22:34.000 I think part of it is maybe they wanted this kind of thing, but they just didn't have the technology to do it.

01:22:38.000 To pull it off.

01:22:39.000 Right.

01:22:39.000 It would just be impossible.

01:22:41.000 To do this thing would require hiring millions of operators, and you just, you can't do that.

01:22:46.000 But it's an example of the ethic that's always been there.

01:22:49.000 It's the us versus them mentality. 0.97

01:22:51.000 That is accelerating because of the fact there's so much civil uprising around the world.

01:22:57.000 I mean, we really are getting to this really ridiculous point where, you know, the Mayan apocalypse date of 2012, the December 21st date, it's completely ridiculous that these guys had figured out when the world was going to fall apart.

01:23:11.000 Yet, how weird is it that the world is fucking falling apart and it's closing in on that day?

01:23:15.000 Did you hear how many earthquakes we had yesterday?

01:23:17.000 Hundreds.

01:23:18.000 Hundreds of earthquakes.

01:23:20.000 There was one area that had hundreds of earthquakes.

01:23:22.000 I think we actually have like, I think the U.S. has a really bright future, but I think it's kind of all a house of cards.

01:23:28.000 Like you have to be very careful.

01:23:30.000 You start pulling out certain cards and undermining faith in certain things, and before you know it, you don't have a society anymore.

01:23:36.000 You have, you know, what the Mayans experienced when their society vanished or broke down or whatever the hell happened to them.

01:23:42.000 Yeah, it's not just that these people shouldn't be corrupt.

01:23:45.000 It's that when you are corrupt and when you are in a position where you are not looking out for the greater good of mankind, you're ruining the entire process of acceleration.

01:23:55.000 You're ruining it and subverting it and making it a selfish thing and making all the things that don't get corrected as we move forward.

01:24:02.000 It's like, say, if you were a little kid and you just decided you were going to shit in the middle of your bedroom because you didn't feel like going to the bathroom.

01:24:11.000 You have your own choice.

01:24:12.000 Nobody could tell you what to do.

01:24:13.000 So you just say, you're five.

01:24:14.000 You're like, I'm just going to shit right here.

01:24:16.000 You pull your pants down and shit, and then you make a little pile in your bathroom, and then you always think you're going to clean up, but you never get around to it.

01:24:21.000 I mean, that's essentially what the human race is to the world.

01:24:25.000 We're just leaving shit places and just assuming we're eventually going to get to some point we're going to clean it up.

01:24:31.000 Instead of dealing with it first and foremost, before we start fucking around with the governments in other parts of the world, and before we start fucking around with tapping people's phones, let's figure out a way how to get oil out of the fucking ocean without killing everything.

01:24:45.000 Let's figure out a way to let the dolphins live and not have shrimp be fucking poison. 0.98

01:24:50.000 Let's figure out a way to not put an entire economy out of work because you fucking assholes wanted to finish your drill early so you use cheaper parts or a less stringent setup.

01:25:02.000 How about get on that first and then let's invade Iran. 0.99

01:25:08.000 That's the other thing that outrages me so much.

01:25:10.000 You see a video like that?

01:25:11.000 It's crazy.

01:25:12.000 And it's not only like, okay, they're violating our rights and there are creepy implications for how this could be used at some point, but this is a colossal waste of money.

01:25:20.000 This is billions and billions of dollars and this is only one program that we know about.

01:25:23.000 We don't know what other creepy programs are out there right now.

01:25:26.000 And that same amount of money could be used on things where you see a real tangible impact on people's communities.

01:25:32.000 Like teachers don't get paid well.

01:25:34.000 Cops don't get paid well.

01:25:35.000 No.

01:25:36.000 And maybe if we paid people better and had better incentives, we would get better people.

01:25:40.000 That's how it is in every other industry.

01:25:41.000 And it should be an honorable position.

01:25:43.000 I've always said that.

01:25:44.000 Being a teacher should be a position of respect and honor in this country.

01:25:48.000 And it should be something that's very difficult to achieve.

01:25:50.000 We should know that you are of great character, that you're a good person, that you're looking at life in the right direction.

01:25:55.000 You're not a creepy pervert.

01:25:56.000 We should know all these things about you, and we should respect the fact that you're going to be spending time with our kids.

01:26:01.000 And someone who's spending time with your kids has profound influence when they're teaching them things.

01:26:05.000 It's really dangerous.

01:26:07.000 You can't even put a money, you can't even put a price on the impact you can have, either good or bad.

01:26:12.000 I had a civics teacher in seventh grade.

01:26:14.000 He's part of the reason why I'm interested in politics today because he did this crazy experiment that I feel like every teacher should do.

01:26:20.000 We were in a private school at the time, so you're allowed to get away with more stuff.

01:26:23.000 In a public school, he probably would have been sued.

01:26:26.000 But what he did, we walked into class one day.

01:26:28.000 It just seemed like a normal class, right?

01:26:30.000 And we walk into class, and he says, okay, if you have brown eyes, if you have brown eyes, sit in the front two rows.

01:26:40.000 If you have blue eyes, I want you in the back of the room.

01:26:43.000 And he just segregated us by eye color.

01:26:45.000 And at first, people were like, okay, this is some kind of joke, you know?

01:26:49.000 He's just messing around.

01:26:51.000 And he'd say, you, and call on somebody with brown eyes and give them preferential treatment over the blue eyes.

01:26:55.000 I think I'm actually messing this up.

01:26:56.000 I think it was the other way around.

01:26:58.000 Like, people who have blue eyes.

01:26:59.000 Dosa is good.

01:27:00.000 Yeah.

01:27:02.000 Exactly.

01:27:03.000 If you looked Aryan, you were in the front. 1.00

01:27:05.000 And if you didn't, you were in the back.

01:27:07.000 And so he starts asking his questions.

01:27:09.000 And whenever somebody in the back was asked a question, answered, he'd say, no, that's wrong.

01:27:13.000 You obviously didn't do the homework last night.

01:27:15.000 You have to read up.

01:27:17.000 Even if it was a great answer, and it was starting to fuck with people mentally, where these people were getting better treatment than the people in the back based entirely on eye color.

01:27:24.000 By the end of that class, there were girls crying and guys too.

01:27:28.000 People were crying.

01:27:29.000 Bitches, that's what's up. 1.00

01:27:31.000 And they were like, is this real?

01:27:31.000 Yeah.

01:27:32.000 Like, what's wrong with this guy?

01:27:34.000 Why is he doing this?

01:27:35.000 My answer was good.

01:27:37.000 And then at the end, he told us he was just running an exercise to show us what it's like when you have inequality.

01:27:42.000 And for somebody who's like a suburban white kid, you're like, that must suck to feel that all the time.

01:27:47.000 It's a deep experiment.

01:27:49.000 I think every teacher should do that.

01:27:50.000 And that wasn't the only thing he did, but the point is he had a profound impact, and he probably made a very small amount of money for doing it.

01:27:56.000 That's a beautiful idea, man.

01:27:57.000 That's a beautiful way of pointing it out.

01:28:00.000 Show it to people, let them know that it was just an act, but show them what is possible.

01:28:05.000 You know, there's a lot of racism in this country that's undeniable, and it's one of the grossest things about human beings.

01:28:11.000 But classism, all that shit is just as bad.

01:28:14.000 Any distinction where you automatically put someone in a designated marginalized.

01:28:19.000 I've met some rich people who suck, and I met some really rich people who are just amazing.

01:28:23.000 Absolutely.

01:28:23.000 You don't judge somebody by their income.

01:28:25.000 I've always been offended at people that think you're an idiot because you exercise.

01:28:29.000 I've had so many fucking stupid conversations with people that are like, yeah, go work in your body, meathead.

01:28:34.000 I'm like, oh, yeah, come on, man.

01:28:35.000 You got to stay in shape.

01:28:36.000 Why does that marginalize me because I'm in shape?

01:28:39.000 Everybody that lifts weights has to be a moron.

01:28:42.000 Really?

01:28:42.000 Is that convenient for you?

01:28:45.000 You don't have to compete?

01:28:46.000 Certainly not good for evolution.

01:28:47.000 It's so ridiculous.

01:28:48.000 People are just slowly trying to stop what is inevitable.

01:28:52.000 They're clawing at what is inevitable.

01:28:55.000 And what's inevitable is ultimate accountability for everything, all of your actions.

01:28:59.000 And then it's eventually going to move from that to being your very thoughts.

01:29:04.000 There's going to be the next phase of technology unquestionably is going to be some sort of fucking interface where people are going to be able to read each other's minds or communicate without any sort of noise coming out of your mouth.

01:29:16.000 I think that is 100% coming.

01:29:19.000 I think we're going to be able to communicate things in visual form as well.

01:29:22.000 I think you're going to be able to communicate memories eventually.

01:29:25.000 You're going to be able to lock heads with someone and show them your day.

01:29:29.000 And I don't think that's outside.

01:29:30.000 And I think your memory is going to be more phenomenal than the current fucking weird slideshow that you have now.

01:29:36.000 Blurry images that you barely can remember.

01:29:39.000 I mean, just what I did today.

01:29:41.000 If you ask me what exactly happened from the moment you woke up, can you remember every, I remember playing with my kids.

01:29:48.000 I remember getting in my car.

01:29:50.000 This blocks, little flashes, little slideshows.

01:29:54.000 You'll be able to pull all that shit.

01:29:56.000 You'll be able to pull every second.

01:29:58.000 That software is going to make it probably.

01:30:00.000 Google goggles, bitch. 1.00

01:30:01.000 No, no, that software we just watched that video on the New York Times.

01:30:03.000 It's probably going to be like, you want to see my day?

01:30:05.000 Here's an exact DVR of my day, but I edited out like two hours of poop.

01:30:09.000 Of me beating off on the toilet with two q-tips.

01:30:16.000 That's the ultimate sin.

01:30:17.000 Beating off on the toilet while you have a q-tip in your ear.

01:30:21.000 That shit's so bad for you, man.

01:30:23.000 You're taking this shit, rub it.

01:30:24.000 Q-tips?

01:30:25.000 They're terrible for you, man.

01:30:25.000 Yeah.

01:30:26.000 You need to just get it done once.

01:30:28.000 No, I know I do.

01:30:28.000 I love my tips.

01:30:31.000 You've got some time.

01:30:32.000 Yeah, you shouldn't be digging in your ears.

01:30:33.000 What are you supposed to do then?

01:30:34.000 Earwax builds up.

01:30:36.000 You're supposed to get it cleaned.

01:30:37.000 Or they have this ear juice that you can buy it.

01:30:37.000 Cleaned out.

01:30:40.000 It's like CVS that you put in there.

01:30:42.000 It has this little plunger thing.

01:30:43.000 But the worst thing, you're not supposed to do that.

01:30:45.000 That's why nowhere on the box for a box of Q-tips does it say put this shit in your ear.

01:30:50.000 It's crazy.

01:30:50.000 It feels so good, though.

01:30:51.000 It does.

01:30:52.000 Especially while you're taking the shit and beating it off.

01:30:54.000 I told you this show.

01:30:56.000 I don't know if I told you on a podcast, though.

01:30:59.000 My ex, she was cleaning her ear out, and then the phone rang, so she picked it up, and she shoved the Q-tip in her ear, and just started gushing blood and popping your eardrum. 1.00

01:31:09.000 Yeah, you did talk about this in the podcast.

01:31:10.000 You ever watched that Thousand Ways to Die?

01:31:13.000 Yes, I love that show.

01:31:14.000 You know, the one where she's getting a massage, or no, she's getting acupuncture and rolls off the bed, and like one goes right through her heart. 0.77

01:31:21.000 Is that real?

01:31:22.000 I mean, it has to be real.

01:31:23.000 It's A Thousand Ways to Die.

01:31:25.000 Man, what kind of, what are they doing?

01:31:26.000 Shishkabob needles on this bitch? 1.00

01:31:28.000 That doesn't even make sense.

01:31:29.000 How the fuck can you get killed by an acupuncture?

01:31:31.000 What kind of a pussy are you that an acupuncture needle is killing you? 1.00

01:31:35.000 Just went right through her heart, I guess.

01:31:36.000 I almost think that shows, like, creep show, though.

01:31:38.000 I almost think that it's like written.

01:31:41.000 Bitch! 1.00

01:31:42.000 Shit.

01:31:43.000 No.

01:31:44.000 But I think they have to be factual, Brian.

01:31:47.000 I think it's based on...

01:31:47.000 Is it?

01:31:48.000 I think it's supposed to be...

01:31:52.000 Yeah, you could die.

01:31:54.000 I guess they wouldn't they have that as an option?

01:31:56.000 I mean, they'd be crazy if the producers didn't have that as an option.

01:31:59.000 Right.

01:32:00.000 Maybe you're right.

01:32:00.000 Yeah.

01:32:01.000 Yeah, the acupuncture one doesn't make any sense to me.

01:32:03.000 That sounds crazy.

01:32:04.000 If it's on true TV, it has to be cupups.

01:32:05.000 That just sounds fucking completely ridiculous.

01:32:07.000 I don't think the acupuncture needles could kill you like that.

01:32:10.000 Because it won't dwindle right through her heart.

01:32:13.000 How's it going right through your heart?

01:32:14.000 It's going to penetrate all that meat.

01:32:16.000 It's going to go through your bone.

01:32:18.000 Is it going to find the perfect...

01:32:18.000 what's it going to do?

01:32:20.000 Maybe she had a baboon heart. 1.00

01:32:22.000 Maybe.

01:32:22.000 I mean, maybe, maybe, if it fucking, you landed on it perfectly and it didn't bend, maybe.

01:32:28.000 But really, I wouldn't think that thing would kill you.

01:32:30.000 I wouldn't think that.

01:32:31.000 Too little.

01:32:32.000 Can I take an alpha brain and see if the next, like, hour is...

01:32:34.000 Fuck you, son.

01:32:38.000 Go for dose.

01:32:38.000 Well, you're already super smart, dude, and you're already so articulate, you're barely going to notice.

01:32:42.000 You're too smart already.

01:32:43.000 What this is for is mid-level retards like myself that can barely form sentences without it.

01:32:50.000 Oh, my God.

01:32:51.000 I was like, you're a fucking savage.

01:32:53.000 He snorted a line of bags.

01:32:55.000 Imagine you just started snorting it.

01:32:56.000 Is this your alphabet?

01:32:58.000 David Seaman, running for Congress, caught snorting drugs in the Joe Rogan Experience podcast.

01:32:58.000 Yeah.

01:33:03.000 Like, no, it's a nootropic.

01:33:04.000 It doesn't count.

01:33:05.000 David, are you trying to...

01:33:09.000 Should it be allowed?

01:33:10.000 Next on Nightline.

01:33:14.000 Should nootropics be allowed?

01:33:17.000 Should we allow people to be smarter than others when they could use it against you?

01:33:20.000 They'll have some YouTube video of this 16-year-old.

01:33:23.000 Like, I just took a nootropic.

01:33:24.000 And like, ah, I'm going to fuck some bitches. 1.00

01:33:28.000 Like, that's what they do with Salvia.

01:33:29.000 They totally villainize Salvia.

01:33:31.000 Because they're like, we found a couple of dudes on YouTube.

01:33:33.000 Millions of people have tried it, and it's legal in a lot of states.

01:33:36.000 We found some dudes on YouTube who acted like assholes after they took it.

01:33:39.000 Brian's one of them.

01:33:41.000 So clearly, that's scientific, clearly based on what a couple of people post on YouTube.

01:33:45.000 We have to make this illegal and we have to do a witch hunt against it.

01:33:49.000 It's fascinating that it was legal for so long and such a potent psychedelic.

01:33:52.000 And I think it's very indicative of the times we live in as people slowly figured that out and started to sell it.

01:33:59.000 Because what, I mean, that wasn't around.

01:34:01.000 What is it exactly?

01:34:02.000 It's sage is what it is.

01:34:05.000 The plant sage is this stuff, Salvia Divinorum.

01:34:08.000 It's a very target.

01:34:10.000 So it's just like an Target?

01:34:12.000 The plant form of it.

01:34:13.000 Oh, okay.

01:34:14.000 Well, they also sell San Pedro cactuses.

01:34:17.000 You could buy those anywhere.

01:34:18.000 They're not illegal.

01:34:18.000 And that's the source of mescaline.

01:34:20.000 That's the Indian. 1.00

01:34:21.000 Like the Carlos Casaneda stuff?

01:34:23.000 Well, Terrence McKenna, famously on the big island of Hawaii, had a tropical rainforest garden.

01:34:29.000 He lived on the rainforest side where it was beautiful up there, man.

01:34:33.000 The pictures of his home was incredible.

01:34:35.000 He had this really cool pad he put up there on the island, and it had every psychedelic plant known to man because most of them grow breast in these sort of rainforest environments.

01:34:46.000 Breast.

01:34:47.000 Breast.

01:34:48.000 Yes.

01:34:48.000 So he had it set up there where he had salvia, he had San Pedro Cactus.

01:34:52.000 They're all legal.

01:34:53.000 The plant, whatever it is, the Chicotria viritis that they get ayahuasca from.

01:34:59.000 All these different plants.

01:35:00.000 He had them all growing.

01:35:01.000 They were all totally legal.

01:35:02.000 And beautiful and fascinating to know that all of these different plants, I mean, even if you just had them as your little plant buddies, you never even smoked them, just kept them in your yard.

01:35:11.000 There's something kind of dope knowing that you could literally change your consciousness by some shit that's growing next to your house.

01:35:16.000 Knowing that it has that kind of power.

01:35:17.000 Yeah, incredible power.

01:35:19.000 And salvia is way more potent than a lot of shit that is illegal.

01:35:23.000 It's way more potent.

01:35:24.000 Salvia is really fucking strong.

01:35:27.000 If you get a real good dose of salvia, it removes you from Earth for a short period of time.

01:35:34.000 It puts you in this really intense hallucinogenic state.

01:35:37.000 Can I admit that I've done salvia?

01:35:38.000 I don't think that hurts me.

01:35:39.000 I don't think it hurts you.

01:35:40.000 No, no.

01:35:41.000 I did it in a state where it was legal.

01:35:42.000 And yeah, it's so short acting.

01:35:44.000 It's like five minutes.

01:35:46.000 And I collapsed.

01:35:47.000 I felt I was actually a sheet of paper, like a cosmic sheet of paper.

01:35:50.000 It's weird stuff.

01:35:52.000 It's like a whippet of mushrooms.

01:35:55.000 Five minutes later, I was back to myself.

01:35:59.000 And it's not like you're stuck there for hours, you know?

01:36:01.000 I only did it once, and I don't think I did it right, but I did it enough that it was really creepy.

01:36:07.000 You could do it live on a podcast, Joe.

01:36:08.000 Yeah, I don't think that's fine.

01:36:09.000 It's not something you would ever get addicted to, because I was like, all right, cool, did that.

01:36:13.000 It took me over my own head, and I was looking down at myself in these pulsating waves to get a new burst, a new image of me looking from over here, like up and to my right, looking down at me.

01:36:28.000 And it was like, boom.

01:36:29.000 And I would see myself.

01:36:30.000 Were you like the Indian gods with all the different hands? 0.98

01:36:32.000 No, it was just me.

01:36:33.000 It was just me.

01:36:34.000 I don't think I had enough, like I said, and it didn't last that long.

01:36:36.000 It was just a few minutes of an out-of-body experience.

01:36:39.000 But I remember thinking, like, how am I even seeing this perspective?

01:36:42.000 How am I seeing myself from here?

01:36:44.000 Like, this is weird.

01:36:45.000 How am I seeing it or am I getting a hallucination of the idea that I'm seeing?

01:36:51.000 How crazy is it that you can just walk into a store and buy it legally?

01:36:56.000 But my experience, I was still me.

01:36:57.000 I was still there.

01:36:59.000 I didn't leave the couch.

01:37:00.000 I've had people that have taken a lot of it describe like really bizarre.

01:37:04.000 Ari Shafir talks about how he lived a whole several month period of his life during a 10-minute Salvia trip.

01:37:13.000 He took it and then had all these relationships and friendships and had all this whole different life.

01:37:19.000 Like inception, like the different layers where the time gets messed up.

01:37:23.000 Exactly.

01:37:24.000 And he said when he came back from this 10-minute trip, this Salvia trip, he had remembered everything, but it was just like coming out of a month of visiting your friends or a month of all of a sudden you're here.

01:37:38.000 How did I get here?

01:37:39.000 That's so weird.

01:37:40.000 I really want to hear him talk about that because that does not sound like a salvia trip at all.

01:37:45.000 I know it doesn't, but I don't think they're all uniform.

01:37:47.000 I've heard so many, like I said, mine was so simple.

01:37:51.000 I definitely didn't have enough because it was just me.

01:37:53.000 It was me above me.

01:37:54.000 It was weird images of me looking down on me.

01:37:57.000 It was nothing.

01:37:57.000 I didn't learn shit from it other than like, this is weird.

01:38:00.000 But everybody that I know that's had like big ones had taken like big, big experiences.

01:38:05.000 I know I didn't get a big enough hit, but I could imagine if it could do that with like the little baby hit that I had where I wasn't even doing it right.

01:38:12.000 Apparently you need like one of those blowtorch lighters.

01:38:14.000 Track lighter.

01:38:15.000 Yeah, you need a blowtorch lighter.

01:38:16.000 I had like a Bic and it just wasn't hot enough, so it just kind of tripped me out a little bit.

01:38:20.000 But apparently the blowtorch lighter puts you into another fucking dimension.

01:38:23.000 Yeah, it has to cook it to a certain temperature in order to get it.

01:38:25.000 That's way stronger than weed.

01:38:27.000 That's way stronger than weed.

01:38:29.000 Right, you can just buy it.

01:38:30.000 You can just walk into a gift shop and buy it.

01:38:32.000 It's so stupid.

01:38:33.000 We need to.

01:38:34.000 I mean, that's actually dangerous.

01:38:36.000 In the sense that you could be an idiot who walks into a gift shop, buys it for $15, you pop it right there.

01:38:41.000 I mean, you smoke it right there.

01:38:43.000 Although you can actually, I think, get it as a tea or something.

01:38:45.000 You can?

01:38:46.000 I think so.

01:38:47.000 Oh, my God.

01:38:49.000 So I didn't do it as a tea, though.

01:38:51.000 I smoked it.

01:38:53.000 That tea just scared the shit out of me.

01:38:58.000 The idea that you can get that legally and then just walk out in the street, you'll be just run over by a car because you're going to be so out of it.

01:39:03.000 Versus, I mean.

01:39:04.000 Especially the tea, because who knows how your body is going to process it, whether it's going to process it differently because it's going through the liver and the digestive system as opposed to just going right into the bloodstream with a smoke.

01:39:14.000 Now, this isn't you.

01:39:16.000 Somebody sent, this is a video of you doing this out.

01:39:21.000 This is actually a campaign video.

01:39:23.000 This is my next campaign.

01:39:25.000 This is David Seaman doing Salvio on the coach.

01:39:28.000 Yeah, real conservative.

01:39:30.000 With his hippie girlfriend. 0.80

01:39:32.000 her feet stink.

01:39:33.000 What do you want to guess?

01:39:34.000 Watch this joke.

01:39:34.000 I would not doubt that.

01:39:36.000 Do you ever see this joke?

01:39:40.000 Yeah, I've seen this shit.

01:39:42.000 That's crazy.

01:39:43.000 That broke the window.

01:39:45.000 That's crazy.

01:39:52.000 It's crazy.

01:39:53.000 He's almost not real, dude.

01:39:54.000 He was almost like a zombie.

01:39:56.000 It's not real.

01:39:57.000 I know.

01:39:57.000 Almost like a zombie.

01:39:58.000 That one's fake.

01:39:58.000 It's fake.

01:39:59.000 Yeah.

01:40:00.000 It's fake.

01:40:00.000 I'm going to say that.

01:40:01.000 It's an anti-Salvia video.

01:40:02.000 That seems a little over the top.

01:40:04.000 Remember the ones that people were just laughing and screaming and stuff.

01:40:07.000 That's why I actually made a salvia video, not because...

01:40:14.000 Did you think it was cool before it was cool?

01:40:16.000 Yeah, no, but there was a few people that did Salvia videos, and it was the funnest videos to watch.

01:40:20.000 Like, I was laughing, like, I was addicted.

01:40:22.000 It was like dubstep from five years ago.

01:40:24.000 And then I just wanted to try it, and then I wanted to make a video of it because it was fun watching yourself do it.

01:40:30.000 But now I feel like an asshole for doing it because now every kid's doing it.

01:40:34.000 Why do you feel like an asshole?

01:40:35.000 Because I don't think that should be legal.

01:40:38.000 Why not?

01:40:39.000 Because I think that fun video that we just watched, that could happen.

01:40:44.000 Or somebody could do it while driving or something like that.

01:40:46.000 You can't protect the world from idiots, Brian, because then it keeps stuff from you and I. Right, but at least think it should have some kind of 21-year-old rating at least or something.

01:40:55.000 Something.

01:40:57.000 Parental supervision after 18 years of age or something like that.

01:41:00.000 Yeah.

01:41:01.000 To me, that just seems too dangerous.

01:41:04.000 Just because I didn't know where I was for seven minutes.

01:41:08.000 At the very least, there should be an info packet on the back.

01:41:11.000 Like the same way as you take a stupid drug for allergies.

01:41:14.000 There's a packet that's like five pages long telling you all the possible reactions and what to do.

01:41:20.000 Why not have the same thing for that?

01:41:21.000 And listen, this is not like saying that it's a good idea for everybody to do these things because it's not.

01:41:27.000 I know a lot of people that can barely handle regular reality and they should not be fucking with salvia or anything. 1.00

01:41:33.000 So to say that everything should be legal, people should also have people looking out for them.

01:41:39.000 People should also have people that they can turn to to be educated on your own choices.

01:41:44.000 But I know people that take mushrooms for a goof.

01:41:46.000 They just take it for fun.

01:41:47.000 And guess what?

01:41:48.000 There's nothing wrong with that.

01:41:49.000 But I think we should have some, if we're going to be an honest society about substances and their effect on people, we've got to be honest about the positive stuff too.

01:42:01.000 You've got to be honest not just in people jumping out a window, which is possible, but you've got to also be honest about people who go on mushroom trips and become much better people.

01:42:09.000 And that's like a real legitimate phenomenon that's been documented in the John Hopkins study, that people have changed their personality for the better because of one intense mushroom trip that they had, where they experienced profound love and connectivity and all things that people like me and my friends that have had psychedelic experiences have all relayed.

01:42:26.000 Everybody relays the same thing.

01:42:27.000 It changes who you are.

01:42:28.000 It changes the fundamental direction in which your life is going.

01:42:32.000 And if we as a culture don't recognize that that is a potential tool to help all of us, including the people that are in extreme positions of power, they would have a better life if they embrace this shit as well.

01:42:45.000 Well, you can rule on a deeper level if you had an experience like that.

01:42:49.000 You can be more like a Marcus Aurelius, like enlightened despot instead of just a despot, you know?

01:42:54.000 Absolutely.

01:42:55.000 And really be looking out for the interests of the interests of the people.

01:43:00.000 And there's reward in that.

01:43:01.000 You only need a certain amount of money, you corrupt cunts.

01:43:05.000 You're caught up in a wave of addiction.

01:43:08.000 And that addiction is to numbers.

01:43:09.000 Because after a certain while, money doesn't mean anything.

01:43:12.000 You forget it.

01:43:13.000 It is nice to have a nice car.

01:43:15.000 It is really nice to live in a place where you can come home and you have a nice couch to sit in and a nice TV to watch and a nice kitchen to cook your food and a nice bed to sleep in.

01:43:23.000 But after that, everything else is horseshit.

01:43:26.000 Everything else you forget.

01:43:28.000 Everything else is like, what do you want?

01:43:30.000 A bigger watch?

01:43:31.000 You want more expensive shoes?

01:43:32.000 Look at the houses the CEO of Goldman Sachs has.

01:43:34.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:43:35.000 I wouldn't even want a house that big.

01:43:37.000 They're insane people.

01:43:39.000 It just seems creepy.

01:43:40.000 You need all that space to yourself.

01:43:41.000 They have these giant estates that are 30,000 square feet.

01:43:48.000 I'd be embarrassed.

01:43:49.000 I'd be embarrassed to bring somebody back to that.

01:43:51.000 Like, this is my house.

01:43:52.000 Because they'd be like, that's mentally ill. 1.00

01:43:54.000 Like, why do you need this much space?

01:43:55.000 You're like a hoarder, but for houses, you know?

01:43:58.000 30,000 square feet.

01:44:00.000 The ego behind wanting to have such a big house to represent you is like Vander Holyfield, when he was the heavyweight champion, built this enormous mansion in Atlanta and he couldn't keep it up.

01:44:11.000 He wound up, I don't know if he wound up losing it or what, but I remember he was in severe financial straits because it was over a million dollars a year just to run this place.

01:44:22.000 Just to run it.

01:44:23.000 A million dollars a year.

01:44:24.000 Like, ah!

01:44:26.000 To keep your fucking lights on and to keep the electricity working.

01:44:30.000 It's craziness.

01:44:32.000 People that are in that sort of a job, if you're in the job of being like a Goldman Sachs sort of a guy and you have a house like that, it should be evidence of a sickness.

01:44:41.000 Someone should come along and go, wait, why do you have Picasso in your house?

01:44:45.000 Why do you have all this shit?

01:44:46.000 What are you doing with all this shit?

01:44:47.000 You just, you're obsessed with acquiring more and bigger shit.

01:44:50.000 You want a bigger private jet.

01:44:52.000 And that would be fine if it wasn't for you being in the position that you're in.

01:44:56.000 You being in a position where you get to manipulate the fucking market and literally change the economy with your corruption and then get rewarded with a taxpayer bailout.

01:45:08.000 Whoa.

01:45:09.000 Like, we've never lived in more transparent times of the people at the top of the heap being sick.

01:45:15.000 The people at the top of the heap all need to get into a fucking sweat lodge with some native Indians. 1.00

01:45:21.000 Hey, hey, hey, and they pass around the mescaline.

01:45:23.000 Well, it's also like the role of that person has changed.

01:45:27.000 Now he's isolated in his huge 30,000 square foot mansion away from normal people.

01:45:31.000 I think just a generation ago, I mean, I'm only basing this on some stuff I've read and Mad Men, which is not accurate at all.

01:45:39.000 I mean, just basing it on what I've heard from my parents and what I've read about, if you were the CEO of a company, you also felt like you had some kind of role within the community.

01:45:47.000 You didn't want to be known as a scumbag or like whoever the Enron guy was.

01:45:51.000 That wasn't the end goal was to con thousands of people out of their retirements.

01:45:54.000 You're supposed to be this kind of innovator that people respected.

01:45:57.000 And yeah, you made more money than that.

01:45:59.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:46:00.000 Like you were making more money than them because you're actually doing more and making it happen.

01:46:04.000 But at the end of the day, you didn't want to just conn everybody and live hundreds of miles away from them.

01:46:09.000 You know, you wanted to be a part of the society.

01:46:11.000 Conn is a good word.

01:46:13.000 Yeah, there's no reason for them to be making that kind of money doing what they're doing anyway.

01:46:17.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:46:18.000 You're not providing anything real.

01:46:20.000 You're moving numbers around, you crazy assholes.

01:46:23.000 Why are so many of them going to you?

01:46:25.000 Can I play devil's advocate on this?

01:46:26.000 Because I have some friends who work in finance.

01:46:26.000 I do.

01:46:28.000 And although I agree with you, it seems like it's not the best use of our resources, especially when you have the absolute smartest people out of college getting recruited to these firms instead of going to NASA or going into medicine or any of these other fields.

01:46:40.000 It's money.

01:46:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:46:41.000 But to play Devil's Advocate, a few hundred years ago, we explored the whole world and did a lot of crazy stuff over spices.

01:46:50.000 And today spices are taken for granted.

01:46:51.000 You know, you walk over to Target and buy some spices.

01:46:54.000 But back then, they would conquer people.

01:46:56.000 They would build ships.

01:46:57.000 They would chart out the whole globe with these sophisticated maps, stuff that had never been done before, all about bringing spices back.

01:47:03.000 And maybe today, like, yeah, it's bullshit that these guys on computers are fighting each other for imaginary money.

01:47:09.000 But maybe at the end of the day, it's also improving our technology in ways that we haven't anticipated.

01:47:15.000 I read an article about that, that trading now is so high frequency that they have companies that build private radio networks just to get the trade out there like a tenth of a second faster.

01:47:27.000 Wow.

01:47:28.000 Whole companies.

01:47:29.000 There's a stock exchange in Chicago, the Mercantile Exchange, and it has to communicate with the New York Stock Exchange.

01:47:36.000 And there are private companies that will feed that data back and forth over a private microwave network.

01:47:41.000 It's a series of relays, the direct line of microwave or whatever.

01:47:45.000 And the benefit it provides them is literally within the milliseconds.

01:47:49.000 But that difference, when you're dealing with thousands of trades and billions of dollars, it ends up being profitable to do that stuff.

01:47:56.000 That's amazing.

01:47:57.000 I definitely can see that point.

01:47:58.000 But my point is that we should never have a society that's based on the confidence in different options and stocks and companies.

01:48:07.000 It's based on confidence and it flows and waves.

01:48:10.000 All that shit is scary.

01:48:12.000 All that shit is terrifying.

01:48:12.000 It's terrifying.

01:48:14.000 I read a Matt Taibbi article on the actual derivative economy being something like 10 times larger than the, you know, the speculative economy is 10 times larger than the actual economy.

01:48:26.000 If we get enough bad bets, everything goes down.

01:48:28.000 It's nuts.

01:48:29.000 It's crazy.

01:48:30.000 And it's not necessary.

01:48:32.000 It is a symptom of a corrupt time.

01:48:34.000 We need to abandon it.

01:48:35.000 It's nonsense.

01:48:36.000 This whole Federal Reserve thing is nuts.

01:48:38.000 All that shit is nuts.

01:48:40.000 We need to figure out some way where we can trade resources in a fair way.

01:48:45.000 We need to figure that out.

01:48:46.000 And we're not going to figure that out while these monsters have a death grip on the economy.

01:48:50.000 Because that's what we're running into.

01:48:52.000 These big banks are 100 times more oppressive than the big government.

01:48:56.000 And we see what the big government's doing.

01:48:58.000 Well, the big banks, they're just clawing and sucking and biting your neck.

01:49:03.000 They're just trying to suck all the blood out of you they can.

01:49:07.000 And they're terrified of any sort of rebellion.

01:49:10.000 And that's why Bank of America retracted their $5 ATM fee.

01:49:13.000 Oh, that was...

01:49:20.000 And people were pissed.

01:49:22.000 And then it's like, well, what about the $700, if you're a working couple, it's something like $700 a month of the money you pay in taxes is going to war effort and all that stuff?

01:49:32.000 It's like, why aren't you protesting about these things?

01:49:34.000 Is it something where if it doesn't immediately affect your purchase at Starbucks, you're not willing to talk about it?

01:49:40.000 But if you can see it so tangibly that you're like, fuck, there's $5 less of my account, then you go out and you're like, no, we're switching to a credit union.

01:49:47.000 But the other stuff doesn't bother you.

01:49:49.000 It's pretty weird.

01:49:51.000 Take your money.

01:49:52.000 Take the money.

01:49:53.000 Pick it.

01:49:54.000 I was only kidding.

01:49:55.000 I was only joking.

01:49:56.000 Don't need it.

01:49:57.000 That was creepy, though.

01:49:59.000 They held firm for a little while.

01:50:00.000 They're like, this is our policy.

01:50:02.000 If you want to leave, that's fine.

01:50:04.000 Then they realized this is a serious issue.

01:50:04.000 This is our policy.

01:50:06.000 And around the same time, this is underreported.

01:50:09.000 Their website was inaccessible for almost a whole week.

01:50:12.000 Whoa.

01:50:13.000 Is that a DDOS?

01:50:15.000 No, they never said it was a denial of service, and nobody ever took responsibility for it.

01:50:19.000 You would think if somebody took down Bank of America, they'd say, yo, we did this, right?

01:50:23.000 But what actually happened is it just was not working.

01:50:25.000 And Bank of America said we're having service issues.

01:50:28.000 And it was never properly, No journalists properly looked into this.

01:50:32.000 I don't know what the cause was, but I know it did not appear to be an attack of any kind.

01:50:37.000 It appeared to be a technical problem.

01:50:38.000 And there are some people who wondered: is Bank of America trying to slow what is basically a run on the bank?

01:50:44.000 Because there are a lot of people who saw the articles about the $5 debit card thing, like, fuck this.

01:50:48.000 I'm just going to move my money out and go to another bank.

01:50:50.000 And they were trying to do it online.

01:50:51.000 Right.

01:50:51.000 Nowadays, a bank run doesn't look like what you see in the movies.

01:50:54.000 It's not people running to a bank branch and demanding their money.

01:50:57.000 It's people log on to their bank account, click, you know, out of Bank of America, into my Chase account, boom, enough people do that.

01:51:03.000 The bank is no longer solvent.

01:51:05.000 So some people wondered if they were trying to slow that outflow until they could figure out a policy.

01:51:10.000 Like, do we need to say we're not going to charge the $5 fee?

01:51:13.000 Or, you know, and then to go conspiracy on you, one dude even said that they're preparing, they're testing it out to see how would we stop an actual bank run in modern times.

01:51:25.000 And the best way to do it would be just shut down your mobile banking access, shut down your website access, or slow it to the point where it's difficult to do stuff, and you don't have as many people taking out money.

01:51:34.000 Oh, my God.

01:51:35.000 That should be illegal.

01:51:36.000 It should be.

01:51:37.000 It was never properly looked into.

01:51:39.000 Is there any policy in regards to that?

01:51:40.000 I don't know.

01:51:41.000 If they claim they're having service issues, I don't know how much of a role the government has.

01:51:45.000 You can't check on that?

01:51:46.000 That seems like a lie about that.

01:51:48.000 It was a weird coincidence, the timing.

01:51:50.000 That's what bothered me.

01:51:51.000 It's one thing if a bank has an outage, because that does happen, but the timing was so perfect.

01:51:55.000 It's like, if I were a big bank and a lot of people were just, if I were just being hemorrhaged right now, all these people withdrawing, maybe I would turn off my website for a little while.

01:52:03.000 And shouldn't that be all over CNN?

01:52:06.000 Shouldn't that be all over Fox News?

01:52:08.000 Customers demand answers, and rightly so.

01:52:10.000 Right.

01:52:11.000 And rightly so.

01:52:12.000 I'm going to take mine.

01:52:13.000 I think Western Union's looking better every day.

01:52:16.000 Or whatever you do.

01:52:17.000 Got a hole in my backyard.

01:52:18.000 You're throwing money in.

01:52:19.000 Check cashing places.

01:52:20.000 The whole idea of money is fucking terrifying.

01:52:22.000 Ones and zeros and fucking decimal points.

01:52:26.000 What is where you're going to do it?

01:52:28.000 I like the thing about gold, how when somebody hands you a gold coin, not that I've never actually made that much money where somebody hands me a gold coin.

01:52:35.000 But when you look at one in a store and they hand it to you, it has weight.

01:52:39.000 And you know that it's possible this thing is thousands of years old and has no rust on it.

01:52:39.000 Right.

01:52:44.000 And regardless of what that thing is worth in terms of dollars, you know that what you have is valuable.

01:52:49.000 And same thing with jewelry is made out of gold and silver.

01:52:52.000 And it's just something like in our in our little primitive brains, we know like shiny metal that's heavy and doesn't rust has value.

01:52:59.000 We can turn it into a million different things.

01:53:02.000 This is money, you know?

01:53:04.000 And then dollars seem like more and more ridiculous.

01:53:06.000 Well, do you know the ultimate ridiculous theory on why gold is valuable?

01:53:10.000 What?

01:53:11.000 The Zacharias Hitchin theory?

01:53:13.000 Nothing.

01:53:14.000 Oh, here we go down a crazy road.

01:53:16.000 the ancient Sumerian text is like this cuneiform text that was written on clay tablets and it's this really odd ancient language from about six thousand years ago where it looks like They don't have a perfect form.

01:53:34.000 It's like triangular almost.

01:53:36.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:53:36.000 It's not like a tabletop with a spike.

01:53:39.000 It's not like that.

01:53:40.000 They're more of like a stake looking sort of a thing because they were mined out of, you know, they were iron.

01:53:47.000 They were made out of iron, these fucking things.

01:53:49.000 Jesus, what was my point?

01:53:50.000 Zachariah.

01:53:51.000 Oh, Zacharias Hitchincho, the cuneiform.

01:53:53.000 So anyway, this is this weird series of lines, and it's all subject to interpretation.

01:53:59.000 It's really difficult stuff to decipher.

01:54:03.000 But this one guy, Zacharias Hitchin, who's a legitimate biblical scholar and ancient linguist, he said that the entire thing was about the Anunnaki and that the Anunnaki were an alien race that created us.

01:54:17.000 Like the engineer in the movie Prometheus.

01:54:20.000 Like this was his idea of the Anunnaki.

01:54:22.000 They were these giants that created us by mixing their DNA with primate DNA.

01:54:28.000 And that all of this was so that they could make us work for them and mine gold.

01:54:33.000 Because they needed gold particles to suspend in their atmosphere to protect them from the radiation.

01:54:39.000 Sounds totally retarded. 1.00

01:54:41.000 That's the answer I'm going to give when somebody asks me my religious beliefs.

01:54:44.000 Just going to say that.

01:54:45.000 Here's what's crazy.

01:54:46.000 This guy wrote this shit in like the 1970s.

01:54:49.000 And he's a legit scholar.

01:54:50.000 So it's really difficult to argue with him, although many other legit scholars do argue with him and completely disagree with his translations of it.

01:54:58.000 But what his translation, what got really weird was, he wrote this in like 1970s.

01:55:03.000 In the 2000s, 2005 or 6 or something like that, they had some sort of a scientific symposium where they were trying to figure out what are their alternative methods of protecting people from radiation if we lose part of our atmosphere, like ozone layers and stuff like that.

01:55:18.000 And they came up with suspending reflective particles in the atmosphere.

01:55:23.000 So these people back then had no idea that...

01:55:26.000 Well this Zacharias Hitchin guy certainly was no scientist in regards to how to deflect radiation.

01:55:32.000 That wasn't his area of expertise.

01:55:34.000 So him coming up with this as a translation from a 6,000 year old text that was written on clay tablets is quite remarkable.

01:55:42.000 He's saying something that scientists figured out 30, 40 years later.

01:55:46.000 And what he's saying is that reflective particles suspended in the atmosphere can protect you from radiation.

01:55:51.000 Well the thing about gold is gold is unlike any other metal.

01:55:55.000 And this is not something that you would need back in the day when you were fucking herding and you had a need a good metal that you can make a sword out of where you can kill people.

01:56:03.000 Gold wasn't useful in that way.

01:56:05.000 But what it is useful and you could take gold dust and a small piece of gold can make an incredible amount of this ultra-fine dust.

01:56:13.000 And if gold has bizarre, almost magical properties where you can take one piece of gold and coat an incredibly wide surface with it.

01:56:21.000 It's the most, I think the word's ductile, it's the most ductile metal there is.

01:56:25.000 You can bang it out into this thin little flake.

01:56:27.000 Yeah, it's an amazing metal.

01:56:29.000 It's a really bizarre and amazing metal.

01:56:32.000 And that it would be the perfect metal for suspending in our atmosphere to protect us from radiation.

01:56:36.000 And that Earth has, you know, a whole area where there's a lot of gold.

01:56:43.000 So these aliens came down here, realized that this is a good place for them to get some gold out of.

01:56:47.000 How do you do it?

01:56:48.000 I don't want to.

01:56:49.000 Let's make some people.

01:56:50.000 Okay, let's make some people.

01:56:51.000 So they grabbed some monkeys, they threw some DNA in them.

01:56:53.000 It's completely ridiculous.

01:56:55.000 Well, cowboys, but it's not.

01:56:57.000 To add credibility to your theory.

01:56:58.000 Okay.

01:56:59.000 Cowboys And aliens.

01:57:00.000 Yes.

01:57:00.000 Have you seen that?

01:57:01.000 Sure.

01:57:02.000 They're there to harvest gold.

01:57:04.000 Yeah.

01:57:05.000 You know?

01:57:05.000 Yeah.

01:57:06.000 Well, I don't think that helps us.

01:57:08.000 I'm being sarcastic about you.

01:57:10.000 I was being sarcastic about Ewak. 1.00

01:57:12.000 I was looking forward to that movie so bad.

01:57:14.000 But the idea was that that's why we still have this thing for gold, that we were literally put on Earth to mine for gold.

01:57:20.000 So we have this ridiculous ridiculous connection with value.

01:57:22.000 Wow.

01:57:22.000 And then we've lost, completely lost, all of our memories of the Anunnaki because this is thousands upon thousands of people.

01:57:30.000 What if it's less sinister than that?

01:57:31.000 And it's like they came to Earth and they're like, look, guys, we need gold for our project, the atmosphere thing.

01:57:38.000 So you give us gold, and we'll give you stuff that you need.

01:57:42.000 And then you have people suddenly realize, okay, gold's money.

01:57:45.000 Oh, yeah.

01:57:46.000 It could be that.

01:57:47.000 What's interesting about that?

01:57:48.000 I don't like the idea of being an engineered, like biologically engineered slave.

01:57:53.000 The reason why I lean towards that and not 100%, I mean, I don't agree with it or disagree with it, but I don't reject it as an idea simply because of the fact that the only thing that's like us is dogs.

01:58:05.000 The only thing that's like us that can vary so widely by the way it looks is humans.

01:58:11.000 We're the only thing that's like a dog.

01:58:14.000 Dogs vary incredibly, man.

01:58:16.000 You can have mastiffs, chihuahuas.

01:58:18.000 Yeah.

01:58:19.000 Because they were like, they were designed.

01:58:22.000 We made them.

01:58:22.000 They vary because of human intervention.

01:58:25.000 And, I mean, maybe it's what came first, the chicken of the egg.

01:58:29.000 Maybe human innovation came and then people varied drastically.

01:58:34.000 Or when they were fucking created, they made a bunch of different versions of them.

01:58:39.000 They tried a little bit of this.

01:58:40.000 They went with like Asians probably have a little more alien in them. 1.00

01:58:43.000 Just a touch, just a smidge.

01:58:45.000 I'm Italian.

01:58:46.000 I probably have a little more monkey. 0.86

01:58:48.000 You know?

01:58:49.000 They probably, and by the way, this is not racist to Asians because it's better, I think, probably to be more evolved.

01:58:55.000 It's better to have a little less monkey.

01:58:56.000 So it's actually racist against myself.

01:58:59.000 So I don't want any fucking Twitter beef over this.

01:59:01.000 Amen, Joe.

01:59:02.000 But it's ridiculous.

01:59:03.000 Look, it's totally, completely ridiculous.

01:59:05.000 I don't know, and I don't believe in it, but I propose it.

01:59:08.000 Who the fuck knows, man?

01:59:09.000 We're starting to learn all sorts of crazy shit about our past.

01:59:12.000 We're starting to learn about ancient civilizations at a time where we did not think that people were capable of building anything.

01:59:17.000 And they have these giant stone structures that we had.

01:59:23.000 That's another thing.

01:59:24.000 I remember going through school and you read the textbooks about Columbus and all this basic shit.

01:59:28.000 Not once in those textbooks do they mention, oh, by the way, there are some random cities in South America built in a way that really doesn't make sense to that time period.

01:59:37.000 And they're so far, I don't have the numbers in my mind right now, but they were so distant to everything else that it's like, we don't have any idea of what that is.

01:59:45.000 Yeah, well, not only that, there's thousands of them.

01:59:47.000 They're finding new ones in the jungle all the time.

01:59:50.000 I mean, it was an incredible civilization that existed just a couple thousand years ago.

01:59:54.000 The Mayan civilization wasn't even that long ago.

01:59:56.000 And we know so little about what really happened.

01:59:59.000 It's an amazing, amazing time.

02:00:01.000 I watched a great documentary on National Geographic called Decoding the Maya.

02:00:07.000 It's available.

02:00:07.000 I bought a DVD of it.

02:00:09.000 And it's all about them working on the translations of the different Mayan hieroglyphs and how difficult it is and trying to decipher things and the way they go about it and the scientific method they use to try to figure out what the fuck each little thing means.

02:00:25.000 Fascinating stuff.

02:00:26.000 I mean, they had a completely different way of writing the world.

02:00:31.000 They wrote the world in pictures and pictures that represented sounds that you would make.

02:00:37.000 And it would vary whether or not that sound was like, you know, like if you had, like they would, like, the way it's explained, Terrence McKenna explained it, like, if you were going to write I Saw Ant Rose, you would do an eyeball, a saw like saw, and then you would do the insect ant, and then you would do a rose.

02:00:56.000 And that would be I saw ant rose.

02:00:56.000 Yeah.

02:00:58.000 They also had human sacrifice.

02:00:59.000 A lot of it.

02:01:00.000 That was the end.

02:01:01.000 I read Daniel Pinchbeck's book.

02:01:04.000 Yeah.

02:01:05.000 He seems really interesting.

02:01:07.000 I read actually.

02:01:08.000 He wouldn't get high with us.

02:01:09.000 You add on the show, he would not get high with us.

02:01:10.000 He would not get high with us.

02:01:12.000 Why?

02:01:12.000 You don't want to be like, You didn't want to be, what's the word, like, do-it-for-show?

02:01:18.000 Maybe.

02:01:19.000 I think some people also get uncomfortable when they're high, when they're talking about things seriously.

02:01:23.000 They don't want to come up with too much dude bro talk.

02:01:27.000 Right.

02:01:27.000 You know, they're worried about people seeing them stoned.

02:01:30.000 But I thought he's like the psychedelic pioneer dude.

02:01:32.000 I thought he would hop right in.

02:01:33.000 I met him when I was in Boulder.

02:01:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:01:34.000 Anthony Bourdain, two-fisted, like a soldier.

02:01:38.000 We took that dude to the depths of hell, unfortunately, because it made the conversation kind of weird because he was a little hungover from the Grammys.

02:01:44.000 But that motherfucker went deep with us.

02:01:46.000 Respect, sir.

02:01:47.000 Respect.

02:01:48.000 I got respect for you.

02:01:49.000 I could tell how high he was, too.

02:01:50.000 Because I know, unless you're getting this shit on a regular basis, the kind of marijuana that's available in Southern California is so potent and awesome and should be respected for that instead of suppressed by this ridiculous fucking DEA and government being so silly.

02:02:09.000 We're in a new era of prohibition.

02:02:10.000 That's one of the things we are.

02:02:11.000 That's one of the things I'm going to legislate.

02:02:13.000 I might not actually get it through, but you can start putting the bills out there.

02:02:18.000 What are you going to try to do?

02:02:19.000 It has to be decriminalized.

02:02:20.000 It's not even like the main focus of my campaign.

02:02:22.000 My thing is Bill of Rights and spying on us, ending those things.

02:02:27.000 Do you think it's possible to turn things back?

02:02:29.000 It absolutely is possible because the latest poll is like 50% of the American people support decriminalization and legalization.

02:02:37.000 But elected officials, only 1 to 2% support that.

02:02:40.000 So you have a huge disparity where these old assholes have to go or they have to change their stance because it's not going to stay like that forever.

02:02:48.000 You don't have an elected body that believes one thing and then 50% of your own people believe something entirely different.

02:02:55.000 That doesn't work.

02:02:56.000 And it's not much different than when Galileo was in position.

02:02:59.000 It's really sort of along the same lines.

02:03:01.000 It's called weed because it grows absolutely everywhere.

02:03:03.000 You find it by railroad tracks and you just pull it out of the ground.

02:03:07.000 And it's super nutritious.

02:03:08.000 And you can make clothes out of it and you can build buildings out of it.

02:03:10.000 Does a bottle of whiskey do all that?

02:03:12.000 You could fucking fuel a car with that shit, really, realistically.

02:03:16.000 You could take one acre of hemp.

02:03:18.000 It's as good as four acres of trees if you're trying to make paper.

02:03:22.000 It's the most ridiculous plant ever.

02:03:25.000 I'm not trying to pander to your show because I know you know you talk about this a lot, but like we can't move forward as a country if we're spending so much of our resources on criminalizing something that it's not a crime.

02:03:35.000 Not only that, something that's incredibly beneficial.

02:03:38.000 We're suppressing farmers' ability to make money.

02:03:41.000 A farmer's ability to make money, by the way, not off selling drugs, we're talking about the actual plant hemp, which is not psychoactive in any way, shape, or form.

02:03:49.000 It is not.

02:03:49.000 You won't show, you can eat it.

02:03:52.000 We sell hemp protein, hemp forced protein. 0.84

02:03:54.000 One of the biggest questions we get is, am I going to piss hot for this?

02:03:57.000 I work at a company that drug tests me.

02:03:59.000 Should I be like, yeah, you can take it.

02:04:01.000 It's not.

02:04:02.000 It has nothing to do with marijuana.

02:04:04.000 That's disgusting, too.

02:04:05.000 Terrifying.

02:04:06.000 I'm of the age where I have a lot of friends who are trying to get into better positions, and they're all worried about drug testing.

02:04:13.000 It's weird because all these companies are preventing themselves from hiring the next batch of innovators.

02:04:18.000 Yeah, of course.

02:04:19.000 You're hiring people who are complete boring accountants who have never tried anything.

02:04:24.000 And I'm so offended at this idea that no one can handle drugs.

02:04:28.000 I find that so ridiculous.

02:04:29.000 That just because one person can't handle it or a few people can't handle it doesn't mean I can't handle it because drinking is one of the worst fucking drugs there is, period.

02:04:39.000 I can handle it.

02:04:39.000 I enjoy drinking, but there's no doubt you compare how your body feels the next day between the two things.

02:04:46.000 There's no doubt.

02:04:47.000 There's no comparison.

02:04:48.000 And the idea that I would somehow or another lose control because I've tried something or because I enjoy something in my off time is silly.

02:04:56.000 If you don't give a person enough respect as your employee that they will go home and sit down in front of the TV and smoke a joint when they relax at home, if you don't give them enough respect to have that time to themselves to maybe smoke a little weed and chill out when they're not riding on the company dime, they're not responsible for anything, you're going to test them for that.

02:05:16.000 That's ridiculous.

02:05:17.000 You're an asshole.

02:05:18.000 You're trying to be a slave owner.

02:05:20.000 You're not trying to be an employee.

02:05:21.000 Yeah, you can't tell people what to do when they're not at work.

02:05:24.000 It's one thing if you're on one of those offshore oil rigs, and then you're basically on the job 24 hours a day because anything can go wrong at any time.

02:05:32.000 Completely.

02:05:32.000 I understand having a zero tolerance policy there, but for some office job where you have a large portion of your day where you're not working, you should be allowed to do what you want, especially when you're using something that has not killed a single person ever.

02:05:45.000 It's a very, very, very good point about dangerous jobs.

02:05:48.000 Very good point.

02:05:49.000 It's not that we're being completely unreasonable.

02:05:51.000 You're like, government, stay out of my life.

02:05:53.000 Everywhere.

02:05:54.000 No.

02:05:54.000 Government.

02:05:56.000 We should definitely check people out before we let them on planes.

02:05:59.000 We should definitely test people for drugs if they're in charge of oil rigs. 0.60

02:06:03.000 And even spying.

02:06:05.000 People think I'm totally against intelligence agencies.

02:06:08.000 I'm not.

02:06:09.000 There's a big role for us to have spy agencies.

02:06:11.000 You want to see what these fucking people in Afghanistan and caves are talking about. 0.98

02:06:15.000 You want to be tapping their drones.

02:06:16.000 That's what they're talking about?

02:06:17.000 How do I make a fire?

02:06:18.000 That's what they're talking about.

02:06:21.000 How do we get these drones to stop dropping stuff on us? 0.78

02:06:24.000 Yeah, what's your position on drones?

02:06:26.000 So drones are really pretty awful for a lot of the same reasons as warrantless spying.

02:06:30.000 There's not enough accountability.

02:06:31.000 Like right now, maybe it's being used properly.

02:06:33.000 We really don't know.

02:06:34.000 But at what point does it just become convenient for a president to say, look, this guy's a major asshole.

02:06:39.000 He's causing us a lot of trouble with all of his...

02:06:46.000 One drone strike, he's done.

02:06:47.000 And then people will talk about it for a couple days, and that's it, because that's how the media cycle works.

02:06:51.000 You know, people will be outraged for a couple days, and that's it.

02:06:54.000 So they take their one-time credibility hit, and they just move on.

02:06:57.000 And I don't think that's acceptable.

02:06:59.000 Again, it's too much power for the government to have.

02:07:02.000 The number of civilian drones is in, or civilian casualties because of drones is in the thousands now.

02:07:09.000 I mean, it's not just a couple of people accidentally die.

02:07:14.000 Also, there's an evil aspect to it.

02:07:15.000 Like, it used to be if you wanted to kill somebody, you stab them with something, and it was pretty intimate, you know?

02:07:21.000 And then it's been depersonalized over time.

02:07:23.000 It went from that to sniper rifles, to you drop something out of a plane.

02:07:29.000 But even then, you're still on top of their city.

02:07:32.000 You're looking down.

02:07:33.000 You're pushing the button.

02:07:34.000 You're making a moral choice.

02:07:36.000 Like, the evil I'm doing here is outweighed by the benefit it will have of winning this battle or winning this war.

02:07:43.000 The drone, some guy just goes to work at an army base, plugs in like he's playing a video game, goes home at night, mission accomplished.

02:07:51.000 It's a level of separation that is just scary.

02:07:56.000 Yeah, these civilian drone strikes, depending on who you listen to, there's a couple different figures that they throw around, but all of them are over 1,000.

02:08:05.000 From the conservative numbers, the conservative numbers are around 1,800, and the less conservative numbers are above 2,000.

02:08:13.000 But either that, I mean, all of that, it's scary stuff.

02:08:16.000 That's like 9-11 numbers.

02:08:17.000 I mean, this is the amount of innocent civilians that are killed because we're going after these bad guys, and these people just have to be near him.

02:08:24.000 They don't happen to be near him, allegedly.

02:08:27.000 There is, I agree completely, there's something crazy about the ability to take some random object, some created object rather, and fly it through the fucking air to another country, and it launches hellfire missiles at people while you're controlling it with a remote control, like you're watching a video game.

02:08:46.000 And what's so weird about that also is like, so as a society, we're making a choice to devote a lot of our technological energy and definitely taxpayer money to building better drones because these big defense contracts get them.

02:08:58.000 And so we're learning ways to vaporize 16-year-olds in a more efficient manner, basically.

02:09:03.000 These people who are like, you're in some town in Afghanistan, you have no other choices because there's no economy. 1.00

02:09:08.000 And some warlord recruits you and you're caught up in something that's definitely evil, but you don't have much control over necessarily.

02:09:14.000 And without being given a trial, you're just killed one day by a robot.

02:09:17.000 Basically, that's what it is, a robot in the sky.

02:09:20.000 I think Bill Maher calls them sky robots.

02:09:23.000 So you're killed by this thing.

02:09:25.000 And maybe if we need to give huge contracts to defense companies because they lobby the shit out of Washington, if that's just the way it is no matter what, we always have to give them massive contracts, why not go back to what we were doing in the 60s, which was part of those massive contracts for going to the space program.

02:09:40.000 You know, these companies put us on the moon instead of building drones.

02:09:43.000 Well, just cleaning up the inner cities, just strengthening our education system.

02:09:48.000 There's all sorts of jobs that can be had that are very positive.

02:09:52.000 Instead of these jobs that all go to the DEA and busting pot farms, these jobs that all go to TSA workers grabbing people and sticking them in radiation boxes.

02:10:02.000 It seems to me like we should be able to figure out a way to distribute all those people in a positive way back into our economy, back into our workforce.

02:10:12.000 And police aren't bad everywhere you go.

02:10:14.000 Like, I've traveled to a lot of places where the police actually seem like members of the community.

02:10:19.000 In small towns, there's less pressure.

02:10:21.000 In small towns and in other countries where the cops don't have uniforms, so they look like Judge Dredd.

02:10:26.000 Like, here I've noticed the uniforms keep getting scarier and scarier.

02:10:28.000 Yeah.

02:10:29.000 It depends on the city, obviously.

02:10:31.000 Well, have you seen the camo?

02:10:32.000 Yeah, in South Florida.

02:10:34.000 Irvine?

02:10:35.000 In South Florida, the guys have body vests on.

02:10:37.000 It wasn't Irvine.

02:10:38.000 What was the city in Orange County?

02:10:40.000 Irheim.

02:10:40.000 Anaheim.

02:10:41.000 Anaheim, there was protests.

02:10:44.000 That was a total media blackout.

02:10:45.000 That Anaheim thing started to escalate.

02:10:47.000 Saw nothing about in the news.

02:10:49.000 I had to just Google news it, you know.

02:10:50.000 Because that's where Disneyland is, bitch. 1.00

02:10:52.000 They know how to keep shit under wraps at Disneyland.

02:10:54.000 But I mean, they had people in camouflage.

02:10:57.000 And you're like, what is the message of you being in camouflage?

02:11:00.000 Is that the only clothes you have?

02:11:01.000 Or are you letting me know that you've killed people?

02:11:04.000 Are you letting me know that you're a train killer from overseas and you're not fucking around?

02:11:07.000 A member of the community keeping the peace?

02:11:09.000 Or are you ready for some serious shit?

02:11:11.000 Yeah, why are you wearing body armor and why do you have a fucking machine gun?

02:11:14.000 And why are you standing around when people are protesting the death of a young man who was shot in the back?

02:11:20.000 The whole thing.

02:11:21.000 How about that fucking guy that shot himself in the head in the back seat of a car?

02:11:25.000 That was fucked up.

02:11:26.000 And they ruled it a suicide.

02:11:28.000 I don't believe that for a second.

02:11:29.000 But the brazen act of ruling that a suicide, that shit is completely ridiculous.

02:11:35.000 How the fuck did they get away with that?

02:11:37.000 That's part of when you get a society that's corrupt, you have corrupt rulings.

02:11:41.000 But the fact that people would be willing to just listen to that and go, yeah, well, okay, shouldn't have shot himself in the head.

02:11:47.000 You pull a guy over, you arrest him, and he's like, this is it.

02:11:50.000 My life's over.

02:11:50.000 I'm going to shoot myself in the head while I'm handcuffed behind my back.

02:11:53.000 Right.

02:11:54.000 And I'm going to shoot myself in the temple.

02:11:55.000 Yeah, the next few hours are going to be inconvenient being processed, so I'm just going to kill myself.

02:11:59.000 It makes no sense.

02:11:59.000 Yeah.

02:12:00.000 I'm going to put it up to my temple, too.

02:12:02.000 Yeah.

02:12:04.000 How can you even fucking do that?

02:12:06.000 Can you even do that?

02:12:08.000 Well, it wouldn't have to be like a younger person.

02:12:09.000 What scares me is when these videos come out of police just beating the shit out of somebody for no reason.

02:12:13.000 And you wonder, like, how many times is this happening where the right conditions weren't there, where there happened to be somebody who had the balls and the camera to actually film it, you know?

02:12:23.000 When I was in high school, my friend Jimmy was in, there's a place called Kenmore Square in Boston.

02:12:31.000 And this is back when they had dudes who would put cardboard down on the street and they would break dance.

02:12:38.000 Yeah, I used to do that.

02:12:39.000 Remember that ship?

02:12:40.000 Yeah, it was really popular.

02:12:40.000 Yeah.

02:12:41.000 Well, there was breakdancers and these punkers.

02:12:44.000 There was like a bar there.

02:12:46.000 So there's like these punk people and these breakdance people got into a fucking crazy brawl.

02:12:52.000 And the cops come and showed up in paddy wagons.

02:12:55.000 And he said he had never seen anything like it.

02:12:57.000 Dudes were just swinging those bats and cracking people in the head because there's no video.

02:13:03.000 No one's monitoring them.

02:13:04.000 He said they would crack people in the head.

02:13:06.000 He goes, the sound was so sickening.

02:13:08.000 And then they would take their head and slam it into the paddy wagon before they go in.

02:13:13.000 Everyone just slammed their fucking head into the metal and then tossed them in.

02:13:17.000 He said it was so disturbing that like watching it.

02:13:20.000 He never looked at cops the same way again.

02:13:22.000 Just watching them just get cracked in the head by bats and then slam their head into the metal and then push them in because they were involved in a big brawl.

02:13:31.000 And that was back when people had brawls where they didn't shoot each other.

02:13:35.000 They just beat each other up.

02:13:36.000 Like those don't exist anymore.

02:13:38.000 Allegedly some of those Occupy protesters, they like would handcuff them in a way that's painful using the plastic cuffs.

02:13:44.000 And they shoved them all into vans and they were in there for so long that they were forced to urinate on each other.

02:13:50.000 Even like they were denied access to a bathroom when they asked for one.

02:13:53.000 And you hear about this all the time, where they're doing the handcuffs so hard that people are screaming for them to be fixed, and they just don't care.

02:14:01.000 It's so sick.

02:14:05.000 That's not what America is about.

02:14:07.000 We have the freedom of protest.

02:14:08.000 So when I see people protesting, I'm actually kind of excited because it means that people are engaging again.

02:14:12.000 They're like, okay, I care about this issue.

02:14:14.000 I'm going to tell you what I think of it.

02:14:16.000 That's a good thing.

02:14:17.000 Having debate and discussion, that's a sign of life.

02:14:21.000 And they're treating it like it's a threat to our existence and a threat to national security.

02:14:25.000 It's super creepy.

02:14:26.000 One of the creepy things was we had Jamie Kilstein on, who's been very involved in the Occupy process from the beginning.

02:14:32.000 And he was talking to me about cops that have infiltrated.

02:14:35.000 Cops?

02:14:36.000 No, cops.

02:14:37.000 Police officers.

02:14:38.000 Police officers that have infiltrated and they pretend to be.

02:14:42.000 Yeah, the agent provocateurs.

02:14:43.000 Yeah.

02:14:44.000 That strikes me as one of the most fucked up things also.

02:14:47.000 That you get paid for that.

02:14:48.000 You have a protest that's peaceful and isn't harming the community, and you have exactly, you have taxpayer money going into turning this into a violent, disorderly thing.

02:14:57.000 So you can bust people who would not have been an issue in the first place?

02:15:00.000 It should be treason.

02:15:01.000 It should be complete treason.

02:15:02.000 If you find out that someone has ever done that and they have done that, it should be absolutely treasonous.

02:15:07.000 You should go to jail.

02:15:08.000 You've fucked up the civil discourse of this situation.

02:15:12.000 That is against the community.

02:15:15.000 Your actions are undermining the peace of the community.

02:15:19.000 You should go to jail.

02:15:21.000 The fact that we're just allowed that, and we just sort of accept that level of not just incompetence on the part, but real corruption.

02:15:30.000 It's not incompetence, it's institutional.

02:15:33.000 Like you said, it's not the people at the bottom level who are the problem.

02:15:36.000 Somebody up top is saying, look, you better rough these protesters up because we don't want them coming back next weekend.

02:15:40.000 And they're so stupid.

02:15:42.000 The incompetence is that this is the only way they feel like they can handle it.

02:15:45.000 And what's even stupider is this is what's going to lead to bigger protests.

02:15:48.000 Because the denial of equality, the fact that they won't consider that these people are a part of the community.

02:15:48.000 Of course.

02:15:55.000 When the community is having this much problem with your action, you're doing something wrong.

02:15:58.000 There's something wrong.

02:16:00.000 There's an injustice.

02:16:01.000 It's not an unreasonable, ridiculous thing like some crazy person saying, you stole all my money from the golden giant.

02:16:07.000 No, you're talking like real sense and citing real, and you're being ignored.

02:16:11.000 And when that happens, it's right to protest.

02:16:14.000 It's American to protest.

02:16:15.000 It's patriotic to protest.

02:16:17.000 It shows that you're stepping outside of the box to say, hey, I want to be counted amongst the people who think there's something wrong with this.

02:16:25.000 That's what America is supposed to be all about.

02:16:28.000 So the problem with America is it's run by un-Americans. 1.00

02:16:32.000 It's run by people who are not acting in the American American.

02:16:34.000 You have a lot of people who believe that 9-11 was like the opportunity of a lifetime.

02:16:39.000 You know, get a better position within the government, make a shitload of money on these crazy contracts, doing spying programs and putting body scanners in airports and all this stuff.

02:16:49.000 A lot of people made money off of this.

02:16:50.000 And I consider that quite un-American to profit off of a tragedy like that.

02:16:55.000 And in such a blatant way, you know?

02:16:56.000 Well, it was quite un-American to have Dick Cheney as a vice president.

02:16:59.000 How crazy is that to have this guy who's a vice president who used to be the CEO of a company that fixes shit after you blow things up?

02:17:06.000 Well, the whole thing there, if we weren't corrupt, we should have just said, okay, great.

02:17:09.000 You're a CEO of Halliburton.

02:17:11.000 No big deal, but no government contracts while you're in office.

02:17:15.000 We're not sending a penny to Halliburton because it's a total conflict of interest.

02:17:19.000 Yes.

02:17:19.000 You know, I don't understand why government gets away with things that in the financial sector would just be considered ludicrous.

02:17:24.000 It's inside of trading.

02:17:24.000 You'd go to jail for something much less horrible than that.

02:17:28.000 If you just knew that a company was going to fold and you sold your stock, that seems like a smart business move, but that's completely and totally illegal.

02:17:34.000 If this motherfucker had the access to this entire giant business that rebuilt things after you, and he was the guy running it, and then he gives them contracts, no-bid contracts for billions and billions of dollars, that is so blatant and in your face and so crazy.

02:17:52.000 It's kind of like, it's like, what are you going to do about it?

02:17:54.000 The media is not going to cover it all that much, and we know you're not going to protest because you might get the shit kicked out of you.

02:17:59.000 So what are you going to do about it?

02:18:00.000 We're just going to do it anyway.

02:18:01.000 Shit, that's totally un-American.

02:18:03.000 That's totally un-American. 0.76

02:18:05.000 Does AlphaBrain make you curse more?

02:18:06.000 I feel like that's the best.

02:18:08.000 That's just being here with us.

02:18:10.000 The other day I saw the creepiest thing ever in Burbank, and I immediately raised it.

02:18:14.000 Is it really the creepiest thing ever?

02:18:15.000 You want to clarify?

02:18:16.000 It was pretty creepy.

02:18:17.000 And then I found a video of it.

02:18:19.000 I've been searching to see if anyone else saw it.

02:18:22.000 What was it?

02:18:22.000 Check this out.

02:18:23.000 Well, just tell me what it was before.

02:18:24.000 It's tons of tanks just going through on the train track.

02:18:32.000 Some of my readers have sent me that stuff, different videos from different parts of the country.

02:18:36.000 It's creepy.

02:18:37.000 Oh, it could totally be just the normal, it's coming off of a factory line and has to be shipped somewhere else.

02:18:42.000 I thought you were going to send me something with a cat's butthole or something.

02:18:45.000 I got to be honest with you.

02:18:46.000 But isn't it weird that we're now at the point where our government really is doing so many terrible things that we see tanks and our first thought is, are they going to use these against us?

02:18:54.000 Can you imagine that?

02:18:55.000 Can you imagine in World War II, like you see a line of tanks, you'd be like, hell yeah.

02:18:59.000 The real problem is like, I hope they don't use this against us.

02:19:02.000 The real problem is when they don't need drivers.

02:19:04.000 Yeah.

02:19:06.000 That's the real problem.

02:19:06.000 When they just have to slander.

02:19:08.000 Yeah, when you have a few people running these fucking things by remote control, they can take over cities and do a lot of shit that's impossible to do when you don't have an evil cunt behind the switch. 0.99

02:19:18.000 But if they just have a few dudes working somewhere pushing all the buttons for these fucking things. 1.00

02:19:24.000 You watch the new Total Recall?

02:19:26.000 Hell no, son.

02:19:27.000 They have the synthetic police where they just turn that thing on and they all go out and I think we're going to fuck things up way before that ever happens.

02:19:34.000 Hopefully.

02:19:35.000 But this is disturbing, man.

02:19:37.000 Knowing this is drones and knowing all the thousands of people that have died that were totally innocent because of the drones, knowing the fact that no one seems to have a problem with that because we don't know those little brown people. 0.96

02:19:47.000 We don't know them.

02:19:48.000 Yeah, I'm not afraid of the technology.

02:19:50.000 The technology is the technology.

02:19:52.000 You can never turn it back.

02:19:53.000 Drones are now a part of warfare.

02:19:54.000 That's the way it goes.

02:19:56.000 The problem I have is a total lack of accountability.

02:19:58.000 Who are these people?

02:19:59.000 Why are they being targeted?

02:20:00.000 Did they deserve to be killed or could they have been detained and questioned?

02:20:03.000 Not only that.

02:20:05.000 Who are these people that are deciding who to go after and who not to go after?

02:20:08.000 And what is your motivation?

02:20:09.000 And what ties do you have to Halliburton?

02:20:12.000 What ties do you have to who is making missiles?

02:20:15.000 How much money do you make when one of those missiles goes off and hits somebody?

02:20:18.000 What is a contract for 100 new missiles worth?

02:20:20.000 Is it worth a lot?

02:20:22.000 That seems like a good motivation to invade someplace where there's nobody paying attention anyway.

02:20:26.000 Just go and fuck them up.

02:20:27.000 Just fucking get rid of some missiles. 0.64

02:20:30.000 It's crazy.

02:20:31.000 It's crazy that people could try to make money doing that, but there's so much money in doing that.

02:20:36.000 You have to consider it.

02:20:37.000 Look at Afghanistan. 0.93

02:20:38.000 It's like I was talking to somebody about this.

02:20:41.000 Our whole policy is like, okay, we can send them some school supplies and occupy their country with our military forces for a few years, and then they're going to have democracy. 0.83

02:20:49.000 It's just going to spring up.

02:20:51.000 Those people are like literally a thousand years behind where we are.

02:20:54.000 Literally.

02:20:56.000 It's like Tatooine in Star Wars.

02:20:58.000 They're not there yet.

02:20:59.000 There are certain bridges that need to be built.

02:21:01.000 You don't just go from localized warlords in this creepy desert that has insane-looking spiders.

02:21:08.000 Actually, that's in Iraq.

02:21:09.000 They have camel spiders there.

02:21:11.000 You fed people those on Fear Factor.

02:21:13.000 Did you?

02:21:13.000 Yeah.

02:21:15.000 I don't like the idea of that.

02:21:17.000 They eat them alive.

02:21:18.000 Camel spiders should be eating people, not the other way around. 1.00

02:21:20.000 They're creepy-looking alien bugs, man.

02:21:22.000 If they were gigantic, they would fit right in Starship Troopers.

02:21:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:21:26.000 But anyway, like, that part of the world is not ready for three years going from localized warlords to functioning democracy.

02:21:34.000 We can pull out.

02:21:35.000 This is not going to happen.

02:21:35.000 We're done.

02:21:37.000 How far behind it really, truly is.

02:21:39.000 I remember McCain referring it to it.

02:21:41.000 McCain was debating Obama, and he was saying, he doesn't understand what he's talking about.

02:21:44.000 When you're talking about invading Afghanistan and going, Afghanistan is run the same way it was when people were on horseback. 0.75

02:21:53.000 It was like Alexander the Great. 0.60

02:21:54.000 Yeah, yeah, I just saw a headline today.

02:21:56.000 The Taliban beheaded a bunch of people.

02:21:59.000 And their crime was going to a party that was mixed sex. 1.00

02:22:02.000 So there are men and women listening to music together and drinking together.

02:22:05.000 Oh, man.

02:22:06.000 Boom.

02:22:06.000 Beheaded.

02:22:07.000 I mean, that's how far behind they are.

02:22:07.000 Oh, my God.

02:22:10.000 They're so willing to take it to the next level.

02:22:12.000 Like, that is how you really control people.

02:22:15.000 I mean, you chop their fucking heads off in the middle of the streets and nobody does shit.

02:22:19.000 what does that do?

02:22:20.000 It creates a, That's not going to happen again.

02:22:25.000 But we know that that's possible, and that's what's really disturbing about human nature.

02:22:28.000 And that in 2012, we have direct evidence that people who are in positions of power are capable of doing something that fucked up.

02:22:37.000 And if you really believe that people are all the same, the only difference is we have different cultures and different environments and different biological makeups and different ways we look, but essentially people are equal.

02:22:50.000 Well, in 2012, people are cutting people's heads off for nonsense.

02:22:54.000 That's what people in power are capable of doing.

02:22:58.000 And we've got to look honestly And realistically, about the people that are in power right here, because just because you could drive a sob and go to Starbucks and get Wi-Fi at work, just because all that's going on, doesn't mean you're not living in a den of monsters.

02:23:13.000 Yeah, and not only that, just because you have those good things, you have a safe town, and you have Starbucks and like a level of prosperity that's really pretty good.

02:23:21.000 You don't want to let that go.

02:23:22.000 It's awesome.

02:23:23.000 Yeah, addressing all the bad stuff that's happening isn't going to take that away from you.

02:23:27.000 It'll actually give you more of it.

02:23:29.000 Because less money will be going to this bullshit.

02:23:31.000 More money will be going to programs that will keep your town safe and clean.

02:23:34.000 When we think about America, we think about all the good things about America.

02:23:38.000 And not only will none of that change, it will all be enhanced.

02:23:41.000 Exactly.

02:23:42.000 More people will be providing more positive things into the city.

02:23:46.000 Instead of our cities and our countries and our states being governed by this giant fucking monster that goes overseas and blows shit up.

02:23:56.000 Instead of that, all of the tax money, all of the resources go to building shit.

02:24:01.000 Go to building shit within here, this country, making this place better, cleaning up all the bullshit that all these fucking corporations have left behind in terms of toxic waste poisoning and figuring out how to manage nuclear waste.

02:24:15.000 All of it here, though, all of it.

02:24:18.000 To this nonsense where our whole economy is based on fucking people out of their shit in another place.

02:24:24.000 That's craziness.

02:24:26.000 Maybe you should run also.

02:24:27.000 Fuck fat.

02:24:28.000 I would love to hear like a Mitt Romney or somebody say basically that.

02:24:32.000 We need to end outsourcing.

02:24:33.000 We bring these jobs home.

02:24:35.000 I would never be a part of this system because this system is bullshit.

02:24:38.000 To me, this system is like, you might as well go to the Rocky Horror Picture Show and pretend because you're singing along that you're actually in the movie because you're not really changing what's going to happen.

02:24:48.000 You're not really a part of it.

02:24:50.000 This system is completely fucked sideways with corruption.

02:24:54.000 And for you to jump in and try to write the ship from the inside, but man, good luck to you.

02:25:00.000 I'm in your corner, dude.

02:25:01.000 You're going to try to do it, and you're going to run for Congress, and I want to support you, and I want you to win, and I want you to get into the positions where you can actually make some change.

02:25:09.000 But in order to do that, man, that has to be literally your whole life.

02:25:13.000 That has to be your whole life.

02:25:14.000 Just to correct the work of some cunts. 0.99

02:25:17.000 Instead of telling the cunts to stop being cunts, just get your own shit together. 0.99

02:25:22.000 The people that are in the upper positions of power that must be fucking creepy paranoid and depressed and weirded out and on kalonopin and all kinds of other fucking weird drugs to get you through your day and Xanax and Ambien to go to sleep at night.

02:25:39.000 Do you know how many successful, wealthy people in business I know that are addicted to Ambien?

02:25:44.000 They're popping that shit every night to try to get some sleep.

02:25:47.000 Because they can't, because they're crazy.

02:25:49.000 Because they're dealing with all kinds of nonsense all day and fuckery afoot every step of the way.

02:25:56.000 And they literally can't even fucking sleep.

02:25:58.000 They can't relax.

02:25:59.000 And everybody goes through this existential crisis where you're like, what the fuck is this all about?

02:26:04.000 So you go buy new Jaguar.

02:26:04.000 But there's no answer.

02:26:06.000 There's no answer.

02:26:07.000 So you get a new membership to the country club.

02:26:09.000 And now you're living behind the community.

02:26:11.000 Oh, it's a nice graded community there, Bob.

02:26:13.000 And you just keep pushing.

02:26:14.000 I think a lot of it's a proxy for not getting sex, too.

02:26:17.000 Yeah, fuck.

02:26:18.000 A lot of these dudes in the Senate are just old.

02:26:22.000 This might hurt me, but probably can't get it up anymore.

02:26:24.000 Actually, they could probably get it up.

02:26:26.000 But now if Viagra.

02:26:27.000 But point is, they're not what they used to be.

02:26:30.000 And instead of pulling all these girls they used to pull, they have to feel so virile by passing this shit that is ridiculous, like just totalitarian stuff.

02:26:40.000 I think a small part of it is like if you're getting sex regularly and you have a balanced life that also involves friends and family and doing stuff that has nothing to do with politics or with building drones or any of that stuff, why would you even be in favor of these things?

02:26:55.000 You're not going to be in that direction of, let's start a war to make some money or let's take away rights just to be on the safe side.

02:27:01.000 You're not going to think that way.

02:27:02.000 Yeah, that's a very good point as well.

02:27:04.000 If you're operating from a position of comfort and power and empowerment, you feel yourself that you're doing what you should be doing and you're very confident about everything.

02:27:13.000 You're not going to try to suppress other people.

02:27:15.000 And that's the problem with old people. 1.00

02:27:17.000 A lot of old people want to suppress young people.

02:27:19.000 It's very common.

02:27:20.000 They see people coming up and they shit on them.

02:27:22.000 You know, I remember that from the comedy days, you know, the older comedians.

02:27:26.000 There was two types of older comedians.

02:27:27.000 There was a really cool, encouraging guys who would tell you, hey, you got to write more.

02:27:32.000 You should go to as much on stage as you can get, the better, and give you good advice.

02:27:37.000 Good luck, man.

02:27:38.000 And if you ever have questions, I'm here.

02:27:39.000 And those guys are great.

02:27:40.000 Those guys, you meet a guy like that, they're like a life raft.

02:27:44.000 But there's other guys who just see you coming up and they just want to push you down and shit on you.

02:27:48.000 They want to hold you in place.

02:27:49.000 And they act like they can.

02:27:50.000 This guy, I don't want him working with me.

02:27:52.000 He says fuck too much.

02:27:53.000 He breaks the fuck meter.

02:27:54.000 Like, why are you, ugh, you creepy dick?

02:27:57.000 But that's the same thing.

02:27:58.000 It's just crabs in a bucket. 0.84

02:28:00.000 They're just trying to hold people down.

02:28:01.000 And when you get to a position where you're a guy like that, where you're a guy like Newt Gingrich and they go, hey man, boxers are briefs.

02:28:06.000 You go, what kind of idiotic question is that?

02:28:09.000 You think, I'm not going to answer.

02:28:11.000 What are you, stupid?

02:28:12.000 You know, and then you just berate some poor kid who just asked you a cute question about your underwear.

02:28:16.000 I think that says something about your character, too.

02:28:18.000 Absolutely it does.

02:28:19.000 It says something about you being a bully.

02:28:20.000 Like, watch him as a bitch. 1.00

02:28:22.000 I'm talking about like boxers or briefs.

02:28:23.000 Yes.

02:28:23.000 But yeah, totally.

02:28:24.000 Like that response to a reporter, Mitt Romney did something similar.

02:28:28.000 He was in Colorado and a TV reporter, not even like a random person, a TV reporter asked him something about marijuana policy, which in a state like Colorado, where it's a big part of their economy, is not a crazy question.

02:28:41.000 And he was like pissed that it was asked and didn't want to address it.

02:28:45.000 No, not only that, there's a terrible defining video where there's a patient who has some sort of debilitating disease and he's in a wheelchair.

02:28:54.000 And he asked Mitt Romney what his stance is on medical marijuana.

02:28:57.000 He says, because it helps him.

02:28:58.000 It helps him eat.

02:28:59.000 It alleviates his pain and symptoms.

02:29:02.000 He's telling Mitt Romney that he benefits from this.

02:29:04.000 Well, I'm against it.

02:29:05.000 I'm against medical marijuana.

02:29:07.000 I don't know what to tell you.

02:29:08.000 Just like no compassion, no real connection with this person.

02:29:08.000 I'm against it.

02:29:12.000 And to me, it's such a telling video of who Mitt Romney really is.

02:29:16.000 He is a guy who is willing to play the role of the puppet to a T. He will never vary from the script.

02:29:24.000 He's stuck on the policy line.

02:29:26.000 That's so scary.

02:29:27.000 It's terrifying.

02:29:28.000 He's not a real person.

02:29:29.000 He doesn't even know what the fuck.

02:29:30.000 He's a Mormon.

02:29:32.000 Just that alone.

02:29:32.000 Stop.

02:29:34.000 That's a can of worms.

02:29:36.000 It's crazy.

02:29:36.000 I can't believe out of 314 million people, that's our current population, that the best we can come up with is Obama, who has a record now of promoting things that the Bush administration would not have even done.

02:29:47.000 Like there was a former Bush administration official said that NDAA was something that their administration would not have tried and would not have even found acceptable.

02:29:57.000 And so you have Obama doing these things, so we know where he stands.

02:30:00.000 Then we have Mitt Romney.

02:30:01.000 And those are our two best choices out of all the talent and energy in this country.

02:30:06.000 And the answer is, of course, those aren't our best choices.

02:30:08.000 Those are the people who are put forward.

02:30:10.000 You know, Mitt Romney, I had no part in him becoming our pick.

02:30:15.000 Most people didn't have a say in that.

02:30:17.000 And it just happened.

02:30:18.000 And I mean, there were better choices out there, and they weren't given enough attention.

02:30:22.000 Well, the Ron Paul issue was the greatest issue.

02:30:25.000 I mean, you want to talk about someone who was rallied behind by so many different people.

02:30:29.000 And Ron Paul himself is a radical Christian, and in fact, doesn't even support the theory of evolution.

02:30:35.000 It doesn't bother me.

02:30:36.000 Because he leaves it out of the church.

02:30:37.000 He leaves it out of church.

02:30:38.000 He leaves it there.

02:30:39.000 When it's influencing policy, then I have to look at all the other things.

02:30:42.000 When you want to infringe upon other people's rights, and yet you believe in some wackiness, that has to be brought into the equation now.

02:30:47.000 As long as you keep it to yourself, we're cool.

02:30:50.000 As long as you don't fuck with people and you really go by the way this country was initially founded, the separation, the true separation of church and state, because people were coming here because they face religious persecution in other lands.

02:31:03.000 And they said, listen, let's just work it out so we keep that shit out of this.

02:31:06.000 Yeah.

02:31:06.000 Agreed?

02:31:06.000 Yep.

02:31:07.000 Our founding documents were so beautiful.

02:31:10.000 And the Bill of Rights, now you see contracts, like the terms of use on iTunes or whatever.

02:31:15.000 And it's difficult to get through because it's so long.

02:31:17.000 The Bill of Rights was written so you could be like a 15-year-old and understand it perfectly with no legal background.

02:31:22.000 It's so simple.

02:31:23.000 You have a right to the freedom of speech and peaceful assembly.

02:31:27.000 These are rights.

02:31:27.000 You have them.

02:31:28.000 We're not going to bury it in some kind of legalese.

02:31:31.000 The only problem that I ever have with someone who is in a, we call it a cult or a religion or anything like that, like being a Mormon, is that you're so committed to it. 0.98

02:31:40.000 It's not that I don't think that Mormonism can help you and make you a better person, because like I said, I know really nice people that are Mormons.

02:31:46.000 It's just if you're willing to believe that, what else do you believe?

02:31:51.000 How much is that going to affect your choices?

02:31:53.000 What kind of weird apocalyptic shit could somebody put into your head?

02:31:57.000 If you really, truly do believe that a 14-year-old boy from 1820 found golden tablets that contained the lost work of Jesus and that the American Indians were actually a tribe that came here from Israel.

02:32:10.000 And the original Israelites, like... 0.84

02:32:12.000 Not a lot of...

02:32:15.000 Well, not a lot of 14-year-old kids that aren't completely full of shit.

02:32:18.000 And once they start talking about angels dropping off packages of gold and then taking them away before the people could come and read them, they have magic stones to look at them with.

02:32:26.000 Like, this isn't even well written.

02:32:28.000 It's like, this is crazy.

02:32:30.000 If someone tried to say that today, there's no way you would listen to them.

02:32:32.000 If a guy came to you today and said, listen, man.

02:32:34.000 The definition of craziness.

02:32:36.000 But because it's old, people go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:32:36.000 Exactly.

02:32:40.000 But back then it was real.

02:32:41.000 If it happened today, what would you do?

02:32:44.000 You would say, well, this 14-year-old kid is obviously full of shit.

02:32:46.000 But that's like all the miracles in the Bible.

02:32:47.000 It's like, where did all this stuff go?

02:32:49.000 It happened all the time back then, and now it's like the real problem.

02:32:54.000 Miracles do happen, by the way.

02:32:55.000 That dude, Captain Sully, that was a miracle.

02:32:59.000 That'll probably be in our, whatever we have as a Bible, like 2,000 years from now, they'll mention that.

02:33:03.000 It's a skillful landing.

02:33:05.000 It's a brilliant job, but also kind of a miracle.

02:33:05.000 Skillful, but also.

02:33:08.000 Do you think so?

02:33:09.000 Well, in the sense that you have a plane crash, and the media covers it in such a negative way for so long.

02:33:17.000 And this one was just not what you see.

02:33:20.000 So I think it was a miracle.

02:33:22.000 In the sense that maybe it was just a skillful landing.

02:33:25.000 I don't know what the odds are.

02:33:26.000 He was a man who fucking saved people.

02:33:29.000 He manned up.

02:33:30.000 He's an expert pilot, and he did what he was trained to do in that situation.

02:33:34.000 He did it perfectly, and he handled himself under pressure in a heroic fashion.

02:33:37.000 I don't think you should say that's a miracle.

02:33:39.000 I think that's a man with character that should be admired.

02:33:41.000 I don't think there's anything miraculous about it.

02:33:43.000 I think it was training and long, long hours in the job and an expert ability to handle an airplane.

02:33:50.000 And he just did it in a perfect way, where some people would have fucking panicked and fell apart and killed everybody on that plane.

02:33:55.000 That's a lot of people.

02:33:56.000 I'm sticking with miracle.

02:33:56.000 I don't know.

02:33:57.000 I think when it gets passed down the line enough times, it's going to be that Jesus' hands slowly glided that thing down into the water.

02:34:06.000 It's probably already there.

02:34:07.000 Maybe there's someone who was on the plane who was praying that's taken full credit for it.

02:34:11.000 It was one of the horrible things about the Carlo Rado thing.

02:34:14.000 It was a guy who was claiming that the reason why he was spared and all these other people, including young children, were killed, is that he was spared to let people know how great God is.

02:34:27.000 Crazy people suck.

02:34:28.000 They suck, man, especially when you realize that there's probably some really cool people that got shot and this asshole thinks that the reason why they got shot and he didn't is because he was thinking the right things.

02:34:41.000 And he was hoping to God that he could spread God's word.

02:34:45.000 Like, come on, man.

02:34:46.000 How about you got lucky and it's a shame that this cunt killed all these people? 1.00

02:34:49.000 How about that, man?

02:34:51.000 Or like, I won the football game because I prayed to Jesus.

02:34:54.000 about the millions of people killed in all these different countries where It's so creepy that that doesn't drive everyone nuts.

02:35:09.000 It's so creepy.

02:35:10.000 I kind of hope for, sorry to cut you off.

02:35:12.000 I kind of hope for like some kind of alien invasion.

02:35:15.000 Not even an alien invasion.

02:35:17.000 I hope that one day NASA comes out and says, by the way, they're aliens.

02:35:21.000 They might come here, they might not.

02:35:23.000 But we found out they're aliens somewhere.

02:35:25.000 And they've been monitoring us, everything we do.

02:35:27.000 Or just the fact that they're aliens.

02:35:28.000 Then it's like we all have to come together as a people because we're now one planet and we have to defend against these other things.

02:35:34.000 So we can't get caught up in bullshit.

02:35:36.000 Like what does your old book say versus my old book?

02:35:39.000 Yeah, we have to deal with reality as it actually exists right now.

02:35:42.000 What are our resources?

02:35:43.000 How can we defend ourselves if we can?

02:35:45.000 Exactly.

02:35:46.000 You know, the most compelling idea about alien life to me is that alien consciousness is creativity.

02:35:52.000 And that it's creating our society by planting the seed of creativity in the modern animal, the modern monkey animal, and forcing it to eventually pursue its doom.

02:36:01.000 That it has to.

02:36:03.000 That it is absolutely compelled to fuck with matter to the point where it seals its own doom.

02:36:09.000 And that it's like a built-in program in us.

02:36:11.000 And that it's to design, that's how you blow up planets.

02:36:16.000 That's how you fuck with planets.

02:36:17.000 That's the long method.

02:36:18.000 Yeah, you just inject creativity and the need for constant innovation, bigger, better things.

02:36:25.000 And eventually they just blow the whole thing sky high.

02:36:27.000 It's inevitable.

02:36:28.000 It's an unavoidable.

02:36:29.000 It's awful and beautiful at the same time.

02:36:30.000 Well, I mean, it all comes from our desire to understand our surroundings better and our desire to improve.

02:36:36.000 But why is that?

02:36:37.000 If we ultimately are temporary beings, shouldn't we stop at a certain point and say, all we need is food and all we need is comfort and let's just enjoy our camaraderie while we're here and get through this thing in a very healthy and spiritual way.

02:36:49.000 We're like, no, not interested in that.

02:36:52.000 Interested in a bigger fucking TV and I want some pills that make me sleep at night.

02:36:56.000 And is there a way I can get the internet on my glasses?

02:36:59.000 I want to look through my fucking glasses and read my email.

02:37:02.000 I don't want to ever know where any direction is.

02:37:03.000 I want my car to drive me.

02:37:04.000 Google Glasses.

02:37:05.000 I want my phone to have a million photos of it on it.

02:37:11.000 We're in some weird, weird cycle.

02:37:15.000 It's like you've seen Blade Runner, right?

02:37:17.000 So they're programmed to only live for four years, then they die.

02:37:17.000 Yeah.

02:37:21.000 So they know, I mean, they're upset about that, but also it forces you to be in the present.

02:37:26.000 And that's like what we are.

02:37:27.000 You don't know that you're not going to be dead within four years.

02:37:30.000 What's the difference between four years or 40 years?

02:37:30.000 Or what's the difference?

02:37:34.000 You're going to be dead soon, and you have these memories in your past that have been implanted, in a sense.

02:37:40.000 You have real memories of what you've done, but at the end of the day, it's all your perception.

02:37:43.000 Well, that's it.

02:37:44.000 And the memory is kind of like this false.

02:37:47.000 I think it's like this false security.

02:37:48.000 Like, okay, I've done a lot of cool shit in the past, so I can just ride for a little while and not do anything.

02:37:53.000 But really, you can't do that, because you don't know how much time you have left.

02:37:56.000 Well, not only that, then you become a fat fuck and a loser.

02:37:59.000 Because that's what happens to people when they give up on trying.

02:38:01.000 They get fat and they get stupid and they quit and they just lay around and do nothing until they die.

02:38:06.000 That's someone who's not enjoying their life.

02:38:07.000 They've rested on their laurels.

02:38:11.000 It's weird to be temporary.

02:38:13.000 It's a weird feeling.

02:38:14.000 We don't like it.

02:38:15.000 That's why religion exists in the first place.

02:38:17.000 It's almost like a scaffolding to sort of get us through it while we're constructing some new level of consciousness.

02:38:23.000 It's like, let me just give you some shit to think about.

02:38:25.000 This is what's going to happen.

02:38:27.000 The really promising feeling that you get from psychedelic drugs is that what you experience is so stupendously alien to what you experience on an everyday, day-to-day basis that it gives you hope for some really complex structure to the universe that's unavailable to you when you're in a straight and normal form and state of consciousness.

02:38:49.000 And that there might be chemical doorways to different dimensions and chemical doorways to different experiences.

02:38:55.000 And that's essentially what your whole neurochemistry and your whole life is based on.

02:38:59.000 You're a series of chemicals.

02:39:00.000 Adrenaline when shit goes wrong and you need to fight or flight.

02:39:03.000 You know, serotonin when you have babies and dopamine when you see people that you love and you go outside and it's sunny.

02:39:10.000 And there's all sorts of chemical releases that are constantly going on that bring you to altered states of consciousness.

02:39:16.000 And we know that the brain produces some very extreme psychedelic chemicals.

02:39:20.000 So it just stands to reason to me that this idea that the only thing that's real is some shit that you can touch with your hands and that this dimension and this experience is the only thing that's real because it's what we're conscious of and what we're involved in right now.

02:39:35.000 I say no fucking way.

02:39:36.000 I say it's much more likely that this thing is way more complicated than we can even imagine and that we are silly little ants walking around on a dog's ass trying to describe the universe.

02:39:46.000 Vorce.

02:39:47.000 It would be much better if I didn't fuck up that last word.

02:39:49.000 I think it's weird that like old societies, the people that they look to for advice and for counsel were like shamans who knew the most about taking these kinds of journeys.

02:40:00.000 And also they had in ancient Greece they supposedly had the oracle and they were from what I understand under the influence of some kind of psychedelic drug which helped them come up with their prophecies or whatever.

02:40:11.000 So this is where people look to and today our leaders are the people who know the least about these things.

02:40:16.000 Like a guy like Paul Ryan who claims that he's never smoked.

02:40:19.000 He's never smoked pot, he says.

02:40:20.000 That's what somebody somebody sent me a link to it.

02:40:22.000 I didn't read the whole article but I think he said it was in GQ.

02:40:25.000 He claims he's never smoked pot.

02:40:27.000 He's a silly bitch. 1.00

02:40:28.000 If that's true, it's one of two things, right?

02:40:30.000 We were talking about this before the show.

02:40:32.000 Either he's a dork and you don't want him to be president.

02:40:34.000 Either he's a dork.

02:40:34.000 Right.

02:40:35.000 He's a liar.

02:40:35.000 He's a tool or he's a liar.

02:40:36.000 Yeah.

02:40:37.000 Most people have either thought about, I have seen that.

02:40:51.000 And I've seen people who have become very successful and are adamant against any form of drug.

02:40:58.000 They have never had a drop of alcohol.

02:41:00.000 They have never had marijuana.

02:41:01.000 And I respect them greatly for that choice because what that choice is for them is that they don't want to go down the path, that they have seen their own loved ones go down.

02:41:09.000 So those things are the enemy.

02:41:11.000 Those substances, although maybe they could handle it and maybe they couldn't, to them, those substances are weak and those are the enemy.

02:41:17.000 I respect that.

02:41:18.000 Those are like some of the guys who run these rehab centers.

02:41:21.000 They were once alcoholics or they were once drug addicts and they have the worst experience possible.

02:41:25.000 So then they're like, I don't want anybody else to go through this.

02:41:28.000 But maybe some people can handle it better than you did.

02:41:30.000 Just because you fucked up your life. 0.71

02:41:31.000 It's important.

02:41:32.000 It doesn't mean that nobody else can enjoy a couple of beers when they're out on a date or out of fundraiser or something.

02:41:37.000 There's people that can't handle anything.

02:41:40.000 They can't handle any social situation.

02:41:41.000 They stammer.

02:41:42.000 They fucking panic.

02:41:43.000 Their character shows.

02:41:45.000 People's character can show in psychedelic experiences just like it can show in a social experience.

02:41:50.000 You know, there's one of the things that happens when someone is first learning jiu-jitsu is the first time you get tapped.

02:41:57.000 It's a very humiliating feeling when you have to give up.

02:42:01.000 You feel angry.

02:42:02.000 It feels very personal.

02:42:04.000 And it takes a very strong person to get through that.

02:42:08.000 And it's just the very beginning of jiu-jitsu, which is the hardest part.

02:42:12.000 When you get tapped, what does that mean?

02:42:13.000 You have to give up.

02:42:14.000 No, no, no.

02:42:15.000 You have a chokehold or an armball.

02:42:17.000 So you physically tap them.

02:42:18.000 You have to let them know you quit.

02:42:20.000 You quit because they're going to kill you.

02:42:22.000 If the guy has your back and he's choking you and you're tapping, you're essentially admitting that he's about to put you unconscious with that choke.

02:42:29.000 You're giving up.

02:42:29.000 So you're doing the olive garden, basically.

02:42:31.000 That's not a quitting.

02:42:32.000 No, you're doing the olive garden.

02:42:34.000 Yeah.

02:42:35.000 Seven times you did the olive garden.

02:42:36.000 The safe word.

02:42:37.000 Yeah.

02:42:38.000 Oh, the safe word.

02:42:39.000 That's right.

02:42:40.000 I forgot.

02:42:40.000 We had admitted that earlier.

02:42:41.000 We had come up with that earlier.

02:42:42.000 No, so tapping out is the safe word.

02:42:43.000 I couldn't understand what you were saying.

02:42:44.000 I'm like, is he involved in this olive garden prank as well?

02:42:47.000 Yeah, that's our safe word.

02:42:48.000 I mean, that's what you do.

02:42:50.000 But it's very emotional for a lot of guys, especially when they first start doing it.

02:42:54.000 It really freaks them out.

02:42:55.000 They don't like it at all.

02:42:57.000 I've had guys that, like, the first time they've ever done jiu-jitsu and you see them hyperventilate, like a guy gets on top of them.

02:43:03.000 They panic because they think that they're about to get got, and they've never had that happen to them before.

02:43:07.000 Once it happens to you a few times, once you do it a bunch of times, and then you get used to doing it to other people, and then it becomes an accepted, normal part of your everyday life, and you're not terrified of the struggle.

02:43:17.000 The struggle becomes a struggle.

02:43:19.000 It just becomes reality.

02:43:20.000 It becomes a part of reality instead of something you're absolutely, completely terrified of.

02:43:24.000 So in getting through that, you develop some character.

02:43:28.000 You develop some ability to overcome adversity and you develop the ability to overcome very uncomfortable moments.

02:43:34.000 But you don't have to do it just through jiu-jitsu.

02:43:36.000 You can do that shit through yoga.

02:43:37.000 You know, yoga sounds ridiculous, but yoga positions are really fucking hard to hold, man.

02:43:43.000 And if you give up in the middle of the position, you feel like a bitch. 1.00

02:43:47.000 You feel like, all right, I'm going to go back to it.

02:43:49.000 And then you'll try to hold it again.

02:43:50.000 But you gave up.

02:43:51.000 You could have hung in there.

02:43:53.000 And you could have waited until the lady says next.

02:43:55.000 She can do it.

02:43:56.000 How come you can't do it?

02:43:57.000 You can't do it because you haven't pushed yourself to the position where you can do it.

02:44:01.000 And once you do push yourself, when you can do it, then you have this wave of accomplishment and this feeling and this understanding like, oh, it's difficult to do shit.

02:44:10.000 Everything doesn't come easy.

02:44:11.000 And the things that come easy, they aren't shit.

02:44:14.000 The things that you really enjoy, the things that are really fucking hard to do.

02:44:17.000 And unfortunately, we have a lot of people that are running shit that don't have control of their character.

02:44:23.000 They have not done difficult things.

02:44:24.000 They have not tested their ego.

02:44:26.000 They have not broken their will.

02:44:28.000 They have not been broken in training.

02:44:29.000 They have not developed a real character.

02:44:32.000 What they've developed is a sort of a fake personality that they have devised that society wants and will accept.

02:44:40.000 So they're saying all the right things because those right things make people think, I like you, Mike.

02:44:45.000 You're a good Christian and you hold that milk like a 1950s commercial.

02:44:50.000 I mean, they become something they think people would like to hear.

02:44:50.000 You know what I mean?

02:44:54.000 We need an economy where a man gets credit for starting his own business. 0.99

02:44:59.000 You did build it yourself.

02:45:01.000 I mean, who is that guy?

02:45:02.000 You built your minimum wage job all by yourself.

02:45:04.000 Who is that guy?

02:45:06.000 What is he doing?

02:45:07.000 Is he aware of who he is?

02:45:09.000 Because I don't really think you can be aware of who you are unless you have some form of a transcendent experience.

02:45:16.000 That transcendent experience could be a fucking vision quest where you hike to the top of Mount Everest.

02:45:20.000 Near-death experiences.

02:45:21.000 Yes, that's true.

02:45:22.000 Because I think a lot of people change after that.

02:45:23.000 They're like, oh, this shit really doesn't matter.

02:45:25.000 They certainly do.

02:45:26.000 They certainly do.

02:45:26.000 Perspective-wise, and they also do because the release of endogenous psychedelic chemicals that happen in a near-death experience.

02:45:32.000 People in near-death experiences have some really fucking vivid hallucinations that, by the way, mirror the ones where they've injected people with dimethyltryptamine, which is a chemical that your brain produces when you're dreaming.

02:45:44.000 So they've injected people with dimethyltryptamine, and they also have these intense psychedelic experiences that were very similar to experiences that people had.

02:45:53.000 Yeah, that people had during near-death experiences, where people saw the bright light and they went through the tunnel and they cut to another side.

02:45:59.000 All of that shit mirrors and mimics the experiences that are repl you could replicate them with psychedelic chemicals that the brain makes.

02:46:08.000 So all of it points to that there's a lot of different things that can happen to a person where they get a fresh perspective.

02:46:15.000 And a near-death experience is one of them for a variety of reasons.

02:46:18.000 Just perspective, the fact that it was almost over, man.

02:46:21.000 Maybe I need to rethink my life.

02:46:23.000 Not even just for the high that you get from those chemicals flooding your brain, but both, both, both of them together.

02:46:28.000 But I think you need to do something in life, man.

02:46:30.000 People need a quest.

02:46:32.000 They need a vision.

02:46:33.000 They need something that tests their character and in a way that doesn't hurt other people.

02:46:37.000 And if it, you know, even if you hurt, well, you know, you mean you hurt other people through competition, but that's sort of a voluntary thing.

02:46:44.000 Like if you engage in martial arts competition, you're going to hurt people, but they're going to hurt you too.

02:46:49.000 But you will also grow.

02:46:50.000 And you will also grow from it because it's so fucking difficult.

02:46:54.000 And the body can heal.

02:46:55.000 And it's worth it in terms of what it can do for your character.

02:46:59.000 It can develop your character in ways that are really unavailable for people who are not tested.

02:47:04.000 And it doesn't mean tested, necessarily tested physically.

02:47:08.000 It could be tested mentally.

02:47:09.000 It could be a meditation thing.

02:47:11.000 It could be getting over various aspects of understanding of yourself, exploring the mind.

02:47:18.000 It could be a bunch of different things, but you've got to be tested in this fucking life.

02:47:22.000 Like real legitimately tested.

02:47:24.000 You can't just jump into a fucking party of douchebags that are currently running shit and act like they want you to act.

02:47:30.000 And then all of a sudden you're in some position of power and you're some weird Mitt Romney character who probably doesn't even know who the fuck he is.

02:47:35.000 Well, it's not.

02:47:36.000 It's like those people who are like ex-DEA and they're like, they come out against drugs and all this shit.

02:47:42.000 And you're like, too bad you weren't able to speak up when you were actually in that position to pay for it.

02:47:46.000 I mean, come out for drugs.

02:47:47.000 Yeah, and come out and be against what's happening.

02:47:49.000 And then you're like, too bad you couldn't say a single word about that while you were actually in that position deciding policy, you know?

02:47:55.000 Well, Michael Rupert is a friend of the show, and he's been on it a couple of times.

02:47:59.000 Michael Rupert was a cop in the 1980s during the whole Iran-Contra affair, who went on television and exposed that the CIA is selling drugs in south central Los Angeles.

02:48:10.000 And he exposed the whole thing.

02:48:12.000 And, you know, this is a guy who was a fucking former narcotics officer.

02:48:16.000 And he saw them selling it.

02:48:17.000 He was like, you know what?

02:48:18.000 Fuck this.

02:48:18.000 This is crazy.

02:48:19.000 I'm out of here.

02:48:20.000 And he did do what he should do in William Benny.

02:48:25.000 Right, like William Benny, exactly.

02:48:27.000 But much like William Benny, his life is in chaos since then.

02:48:31.000 I mean, to run around like this guy, this poor mathematician, and get guns put in your face, for what exactly?

02:48:38.000 for what?

02:48:39.000 For exposing something that is like Yeah, for exposing something that is really destructive to the Constitution.

02:48:47.000 And Trapwire.

02:48:49.000 Let's talk about that.

02:48:51.000 I know this is rude, but can I do another piss break?

02:48:53.000 Oh, yeah.

02:48:53.000 You're in that.

02:48:54.000 We got five minutes, Joe.

02:48:55.000 You got a little baby bladder? 0.89

02:48:57.000 We didn't even get to Trapwire.

02:48:59.000 Can you hold it for five minutes?

02:49:00.000 Just explain Trapwire for people because this is apparently the longest podcast we've ever done.

02:49:00.000 I hold it for a five minute.

02:49:05.000 Really?

02:49:05.000 We only have five minutes?

02:49:06.000 Yep.

02:49:07.000 Shit.

02:49:07.000 Trapwire came out of.

02:49:09.000 So Wikileaks, in one of their latest batches of emails, has a bunch of correspondence within this company called Stratfor, which is a private intelligence firm.

02:49:18.000 It's kind of like the privatized version of the CIA.

02:49:22.000 And I think the CIA would be offended by that comparison because Stratfor seems a lot less competent than the CIA.

02:49:28.000 But Strat4 is just this private intelligence company.

02:49:31.000 They gather information for a variety of clients, like private corporations.

02:49:35.000 I think Coca-Cola has used them before.

02:49:37.000 Just gather information on whatever they need.

02:49:39.000 Don't hold me too Coca-Cola, but I'm pretty certain they've used them.

02:49:42.000 They have big clients, big Fortune 500 companies, and they get data and do all this stuff.

02:49:46.000 Anyway, in the emails that the Stratfor executives are sending back and forth, a lot of confidential stuff was revealed about all kinds of things that the public is not supposed to know about.

02:49:55.000 And one of those was a company called Trapwire, which developed a computer algorithm that basically tracks people using public surveillance cameras.

02:50:03.000 That's the best way to describe it.

02:50:05.000 Using things like gait recognition, the way you walk.

02:50:08.000 It can potentially recognize you from one spot to the next, and it can flag you for suspicious behavior.

02:50:14.000 But you don't know what the suspicious behaviors are.

02:50:16.000 They think it could be something like just taking photographs of a landmark that flags you into the system, or signaling for your family to come over so that they can take a photo with you, things like that, or just loitering in an area for too long.

02:50:30.000 So this computer program, it's not a person with judgment.

02:50:33.000 This computer algorithm decides you're a suspicious individual and a threat, and then puts you into their system and profiles you.

02:50:40.000 And then when you go somewhere else, like let's say you're initially flagged somewhere in the state of Texas, then a couple months later you're on vacation in New York, one of the subway cameras in New York can re-identify you and build a file of where you've been, and predict your behavior, possibly even predict where you might go next based on where you've been.

02:50:57.000 Just another way the government and private corporations might be tracking people without their approval.

02:51:04.000 I mean, this is a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment.

02:51:06.000 We can't stop this podcast, Brian.

02:51:08.000 We have to talk about this.

02:51:08.000 Let's stop it and start it again.

02:51:12.000 Honestly, you have eight minutes, so I think you can.

02:51:15.000 I give you a fake buffer just because I noticed you don't pay attention.

02:51:19.000 Okay.

02:51:20.000 Yeah, so Trapwater.

02:51:21.000 This is just such a crazy situation.

02:51:24.000 It's a company where their clients are mixed.

02:51:27.000 Some of their clients are powerful government agencies, and I think even the U.S. military uses this software at Army bases.

02:51:34.000 And this is all legal?

02:51:35.000 Well, I personally don't think it's legal.

02:51:37.000 I think it just hasn't.

02:51:38.000 It's something that nobody would have known about had it not been for Wikileaks.

02:51:41.000 And the hacker who allegedly brought these emails out is now rotting in a jail right now.

02:51:47.000 Now, this whole WikiLeaks situation about him being in the Ecuador embassy, how crazy is that?

02:51:53.000 That is completely crazy.

02:51:56.000 Right now, this is the U.S. government's one of our biggest priorities, is this dude.

02:52:00.000 And this dude, by the way, they're trying to get him out under this most ridiculous charge of surprise sex, right?

02:52:06.000 That's what it is.

02:52:07.000 What it is, is he had sex with a woman, and I guess the alleged story is that he did it with a condom on, and then they were lying in bed together with no condom, and he stuck it in again.

02:52:16.000 And it's craziness.

02:52:18.000 It's craziness.

02:52:19.000 They're willing to, like, that's going after this guy, a woman that he actually had sex.

02:52:23.000 Yeah, it was a douchebag move.

02:52:24.000 I mean, if she wanted to wear a condom and you did, I mean, that's a douchebag move for sure. 1.00

02:52:27.000 But you're going to have this gigantic manhunt for him where he has to hold himself up in a fucking embassy to avoid extradition to this country.

02:52:36.000 And it just so happens that he's the guy that releases all this information that shows helicopters gunning people down the street, mistaking them for terrorists.

02:52:46.000 Yeah, well, the thing with WikiLeaks, when they reveal stuff that potentially compromises informants and gets innocent people killed, I haven't seen a single instance of that actually happening, but that argument has been made.

02:52:58.000 And when that is done, I'm not okay with it.

02:52:59.000 That is wrong to put innocent people in harm's way.

02:53:02.000 You're releasing information that should not be in the public eye.

02:53:05.000 But it's important to note that he hasn't done that.

02:53:07.000 Right, but that's the thing.

02:53:08.000 He has not done that as far as I know.

02:53:10.000 In terms of releasing that video of innocent people being gunned down and children being shot full of lead, that video, and then this thing about Trapwire, I think these are things that are in the public interest, very much so.

02:53:23.000 Very much.

02:53:23.000 I like to know that all these new surveillance cameras going up in towns and cities, because there are a lot of them now that were not there a couple years ago, that many of these could be plugged into Trapwire.

02:53:31.000 That's useful public information.

02:53:32.000 That's what the media used to do. 0.78

02:53:34.000 In a previous generation, it would be like Walter Cronkite or Edward Murrow telling you about this.

02:53:39.000 It would not be Julian Assange on his WikiLeaks forum, you know?

02:53:43.000 So I think in some regards what he's doing is at the forefront of journalism.

02:53:48.000 And it's funny you brought up the specific charge that Sweden is trying to get him on.

02:53:53.000 Because I've said stuff on Twitter before.

02:53:55.000 I've said like what I just said now about how I think that's journalism.

02:53:59.000 You put something out there that's tremendously important to the public and that is being covered up and not known.

02:54:05.000 That's journalism.

02:54:06.000 And somebody said, why are you defending a rapist like Julian Assange?

02:54:09.000 And I said, first of all, that's not even the charge.

02:54:11.000 He's not being charged with rape.

02:54:12.000 So get your facts straight.

02:54:13.000 And second of all, since when does alleging that somebody did something, that means they're automatically guilty, it doesn't matter that there's tremendous pressure being placed on them to nail this guy on something.

02:54:25.000 It's so transparent.

02:54:26.000 It's so ridiculous.

02:54:27.000 It's so obvious that it's something else.

02:54:29.000 They're not going after him from the city.

02:54:30.000 And that law in Sweden is weird.

02:54:33.000 I don't think there's an analog of that in the U.S. It'd be like, it just doesn't make sense.

02:54:38.000 It's not rape.

02:54:39.000 It's just not.

02:54:40.000 It's craziness that they've wasted so much resources to try to drag him out of the country like this.

02:54:45.000 It's terrifying.

02:54:47.000 Well, they're doing it to make an example.

02:54:48.000 And they're talking about storming the Ecuadorian action.

02:54:51.000 You make an example out of him.

02:54:52.000 Nobody else is going to have the balls to create a WikiLeaks 2.

02:54:55.000 It's done.

02:54:55.000 And isn't that an act of war?

02:54:58.000 Well, it ends the whole diplomatic system.

02:55:00.000 The whole system of embassies, which is pretty important stuff.

02:55:04.000 Otherwise, if we don't have that, then we're just a bunch of animals, just different countries battling for resources at all times, and you have no ground rules.

02:55:13.000 I mean, an embassy is a pretty sacred thing.

02:55:17.000 So disturbing and so part of our reality, man.

02:55:20.000 I can only hope that with guys like you running for Congress and with this young generation that's coming up, and this is one of the things that I've said, is that I don't think you're going to change these creepy Old vampire dudes that are running banks.

02:55:32.000 I think they are fucking set in their ways, and they're a bunch of old douchebags.

02:55:36.000 And our only hope is the upcoming generation, guys like you.

02:55:40.000 It's time for everybody to step up who wants to.

02:55:42.000 These mid-20s motherfuckers with a dedication to change. 1.00

02:55:48.000 And so thanks for doing what you're doing, man.

02:55:50.000 And anytime you want to come on the podcast, we'd be more than happy to do that.

02:55:53.000 Thanks for having me on.

02:55:54.000 This is an awesome show.

02:55:55.000 I'm not just saying that.

02:55:56.000 It's like the only place where you can talk about stuff like this for hours.

02:55:59.000 Like I'm about to explode from the urine in my bladder.

02:56:02.000 But that's great.

02:56:03.000 Like nothing else does that.

02:56:04.000 Like you get right into something important and they cut you off and that's it because everybody's so ADD that that's all you get.

02:56:10.000 Well, I think that we've been tricked into thinking that that's the only way people will pay attention, that you have to give them those little quick sound bites and then is Kim Kardashian getting a batten ass that's too big?

02:56:21.000 You be the judge.

02:56:22.000 We'll be right back.

02:56:25.000 We're so like distracted, but there's a lot of people that are realizing that podcasts and things like this, these conversations, it's an opportunity to be involved really in your own earbuds, to be considering both sides and maybe your own opinion that doesn't even get expressed that you want to express to me on Twitter later or whatever, but to be a part of a conversation between two people talking about something that you think is really important or you think is really interesting.

02:56:54.000 And that didn't exist before because we had too many fucking people that were telling people what is and it is interesting instead of just doing it naturally.

02:57:01.000 Right.

02:57:02.000 So anytime you want to come back on, man, we'd be more than happy.

02:57:04.000 All right.

02:57:05.000 Sounds awesome.

02:57:06.000 Florida, respect David Seaman in the fucking house.

02:57:08.000 How can they vote for you?

02:57:09.000 When and where?

02:57:10.000 Where are you at of?

02:57:11.000 I am in Florida's 20th district.

02:57:13.000 It's in Fort Lauderdale and parts of Broward and Miami-Dade.

02:57:16.000 But most of your listeners aren't there.

02:57:18.000 What we really need is money.

02:57:20.000 Anybody who's a U.S. citizen, regardless of where you live, what state you're in, if you're a U.S. citizen or a legal permanent resident, you can donate.

02:57:26.000 It's DavidSeaman4Congress.com.

02:57:28.000 And you promise no diamond teeth.

02:57:30.000 You're not going to use this money for bitches. 1.00

02:57:32.000 No diamond teeth, not too much for strip clubs or like Elliot Spitzerhookers. 1.00

02:57:36.000 It's going to be above board.

02:57:37.000 Beautiful.

02:57:38.000 We support you, dude.

02:57:39.000 Thank you very much for coming on, and we'll do this again.

02:57:40.000 This is a lot of fun.

02:57:42.000 I think we barely scratched the surface.

02:57:43.000 We're trying to help you people in power.

02:57:45.000 Don't go chasing him and fucking tapping his phone line.

02:57:50.000 Just chill.

02:57:51.000 Get your own shit together, bitch. 1.00

02:57:53.000 It's you.

02:57:54.000 It's you running shit afraid of this young lion coming to show everybody what the fuck is up.

02:57:59.000 If this is War of Thrones, he'd be the goddamn hero.

02:58:01.000 Game of Thrones, whatever.

02:58:02.000 You know what I'm talking about.

02:58:03.000 Good night, everybody.

02:58:04.000 We'll see you soon.

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02:58:18.000 All right, you dirty bitches. 1.00

02:58:19.000 We'll see you tomorrow with Immortal Technique.

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02:58:23.000 Oh, yeah.

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02:58:39.000 Hopefully, folks, this week we'll have the lease signed on a new place, and I'll keep you guys updated on the studio that we're going to put together there and let bitches know. 1.00

02:58:48.000 All right, we love you guys, and we'll see you soon.

02:58:50.000 Thanks for all the positive energy and the tweets and the Facebook messages.

02:58:54.000 And I've been on Google Plus lately.

02:58:56.000 You guys are the shit.

02:58:57.000 I really appreciate that we have developed this very positive, helpful, cool community, very unusually cool community.

02:59:05.000 And don't think that we don't appreciate the fuck out of it.

02:59:08.000 Brian, I think I can speak for you as well, right?

02:59:09.000 Yeah, thank you, Death Squad Ohio.

02:59:11.000 All the people that came out, like 30 people came out, you know, just huge fans and just love us.

02:59:16.000 Yeah, thank you to everybody.

02:59:17.000 And we'll see you this weekend if you're if you're in Pasadena.

02:59:20.000 Friday and Saturday night, Duncan Trussell is not coming because he's scared of Brian.

02:59:24.000 But we're going to try to work that out.

02:59:25.000 All right, we love you guys.

The Joe Rogan Experience - August 28, 2012

Joe Rogan Experience #256 - David Seaman

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