The Joe Rogan Experience - October 06, 2026


Joe Rogan Experience #2561 - LL Cool J

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JRE MMA Show #186 with Sean Sharaf

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2 hours and 32 minutes

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189.54

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28,820

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3,377

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36

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Toxicity

305

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78

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00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.
00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
00:00:16.000 I promise you.
00:00:17.000 Yeah.
00:00:17.000 I believe you.
00:00:18.000 We're up.
00:00:19.000 I got sneaker recommendations from LL Cool J. I'll take that.
00:00:23.000 I was wearing these Pumas.
00:00:24.000 I'm going to throw them. 0.93
00:00:25.000 Oh, you said I'm going to incinerate them? 1.00
00:00:26.000 You'll throw them in the incinerator.
00:00:28.000 I don't know if that's true, but I like it.
00:00:28.000 Okay.
00:00:31.000 Yeah.
00:00:32.000 You have no reason to believe me yet.
00:00:34.000 I'll give you that.
00:00:35.000 You have no reason to believe me.
00:00:36.000 But when you try, you're going to say, yo, your man was telling the truth.
00:00:39.000 Okay.
00:00:40.000 You'll see.
00:00:41.000 You're going to come back on and say that.
00:00:43.000 All right.
00:00:44.000 I promise you.
00:00:44.000 I believe you.
00:00:45.000 I'll give it a shot.
00:00:47.000 I'll give it a shot.
00:00:48.000 All right.
00:00:49.000 Well, anyway, very nice to meet you.
00:00:50.000 Nice to meet you too. 0.76
00:00:51.000 I met you a long fucking time ago. 0.75
00:00:54.000 Very briefly, yeah. 0.99
00:00:55.000 We were at this stupid NBC thing. 0.99
00:00:57.000 It was very funny because you were making fun of it. 0.99
00:00:59.000 It was some sick thing, you know, they do those things where they have all the new shows and everybody has to show up.
00:01:05.000 It's like everyone sits down.
00:01:08.000 I was at a table with you.
00:01:09.000 Okay.
00:01:10.000 And I was a nobody.
00:01:11.000 This was like 1994. 0.99
00:01:12.000 I was like, oh shit, that's how cool, Jay. 0.97
00:01:15.000 I was just getting, it was just still weird for me to be around famous people. 0.99
00:01:20.000 And I remember you were like, pfft. 0.99
00:01:22.000 What the fuck is this? 0.99
00:01:24.000 You're making fun of the whole thing. 0.99
00:01:26.000 And I was like, God, I wish I could do that. 1.00
00:01:28.000 Like, this guy's making fun of this shit. 0.99
00:01:29.000 Like, you didn't give a fuck about it all. 0.99
00:01:31.000 It was really funny. 0.98
00:01:32.000 I mean, you could never take it too serious.
00:01:34.000 No.
00:01:35.000 You can, you know what I mean?
00:01:36.000 Like, we're not, you know, we're not going to take it too serious.
00:01:39.000 You know, life is good.
00:01:41.000 Especially those kind of things where they sit down, they announce all the shows, and you have to clap.
00:01:47.000 You know, they have all these.
00:01:48.000 Well, you know, you know, I mean, I'm going to have manners, but.
00:01:52.000 At the same time, I'm not going to take it too seriously.
00:01:54.000 No, you were making fun of it, and I was enjoying it.
00:01:56.000 I was enjoying it.
00:01:57.000 That's funny.
00:01:59.000 That's funny.
00:02:00.000 So, this is like, this is the 90s.
00:02:02.000 This is a long, long time ago.
00:02:04.000 Hell yeah. 1.00
00:02:05.000 You've had a fucking insane career, man. 1.00
00:02:08.000 I mean, when did you get signed? 1.00
00:02:10.000 Weren't you like 17 or some shit? 0.85
00:02:13.000 Like, how old were you when you first got your first contract? 0.93
00:02:15.000 So, 16.
00:02:19.000 16.
00:02:19.000 16.
00:02:20.000 We started Def Jam.
00:02:21.000 Wow.
00:02:21.000 Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons started.
00:02:23.000 Well, Rick started Def Jam, right, as a production company.
00:02:26.000 Rick and Russell together formed Def Jam, the label, and I was the first act.
00:02:30.000 The first song on Def Jam Productions was It's Yours by Tila Rock.
00:02:34.000 And then from there, the label was formed because that was Streetwise Party Time.
00:02:38.000 And then from there, the label was formed.
00:02:40.000 And, you know, the rest is history.
00:02:43.000 That's incredible.
00:02:44.000 Ad Rock from the Beastie Boys actually programmed the beat.
00:02:48.000 Rick Rubin produced it.
00:02:49.000 And I did the mic, and here we are. 0.99
00:02:53.000 Most people who get that successful at 16 have a very difficult time keeping their shit together. 0.99
00:02:58.000 But you just. 0.99
00:03:00.000 Managed to keep smiling and floating through this thing.
00:03:03.000 You know what?
00:03:04.000 You know what?
00:03:05.000 Yo, man, you get enough bites at the apple.
00:03:08.000 You know what I mean?
00:03:09.000 16.
00:03:10.000 Yeah, yeah, that was probably about 17, 18 right there.
00:03:12.000 Wow.
00:03:12.000 I always could tell by my jewelry.
00:03:17.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:03:19.000 You know?
00:03:20.000 Wow.
00:03:21.000 That was back in the boombox days.
00:03:22.000 Yeah, it was the boombox, man.
00:03:23.000 That was everything.
00:03:24.000 That meant everything to me.
00:03:25.000 Oh, everybody had those back then.
00:03:27.000 Absolutely.
00:03:27.000 People would carry them around walking down the street with their own music.
00:03:30.000 Absolutely.
00:03:31.000 We're in a different world now.
00:03:32.000 People don't understand what it was like back then.
00:03:34.000 Yeah, because actually, in a weird way, even though the world is more public, music has become more private.
00:03:42.000 Right, right, right, right.
00:03:44.000 The world was private, but music was public, baby.
00:03:47.000 Right, right, right.
00:03:49.000 It's like it inverted, you know what I mean?
00:03:52.000 Yeah.
00:03:53.000 Well, you, I mean, it's no exaggeration to say you're a pioneer because hip hop was so new back then.
00:04:00.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:01.000 It was so new.
00:04:02.000 You had like Sugar Hill, which was in like.
00:04:05.000 Sugar Hill, Rabbits Delight was 79, but I got into hip hop before that.
00:04:09.000 Because I was listening to like Grandmaster Flash and Fury's four before they were the five and the Treacherous Three and Moe and the Cold Crush.
00:04:17.000 What year was that?
00:04:18.000 That's 75, 76, 77.
00:04:23.000 Wow.
00:04:23.000 You know, around that time.
00:04:26.000 You know what I mean?
00:04:26.000 And I was hearing the tapes because they were circulating because I was in Queens.
00:04:30.000 You know what I mean?
00:04:31.000 So the tapes were coming out of the Bronx.
00:04:32.000 And when I was in Long Island, see, I was raised, I was born in Long Island.
00:04:36.000 I was raised in Queens, but I also lived in North Babylon.
00:04:39.000 And when I was in North Babylon next door, there was a lot of foster kids who were from uptown, who were from the Bronx and from Brooklyn.
00:04:48.000 Well, Bronx and Harlem and Brooklyn.
00:04:51.000 So I would hear all the tapes when hip hop was emerging.
00:04:54.000 So I was like, you know, eight years old, and I was getting exposed to like all of the, you know, the newest of the new at a really young age.
00:05:02.000 So I got like indoctrinated and dipped in the, baptized in the fire of hip hop early.
00:05:08.000 You know what I mean?
00:05:09.000 What a fortuitous time to be a kid.
00:05:11.000 Too.
00:05:12.000 Like, it's the perfect time because it's all emerging around you.
00:05:15.000 Yeah, it's like when Gladwell talks about, you know, that moment, the tipping point, where people being born in certain places.
00:05:23.000 You know, when he talks about, you know, being in Seattle when computers were, when software exploded.
00:05:28.000 So I was in New York at that same time.
00:05:30.000 It's very much in that same thing.
00:05:35.000 You know, you get sprinkled with a little dust.
00:05:37.000 You know, the man upstairs, you know, get a little sprinkle, be in the right place, got the capability.
00:05:43.000 Yeah.
00:05:44.000 You know?
00:05:45.000 And the drive and the discipline.
00:05:46.000 Yeah.
00:05:47.000 Stick to it.
00:05:48.000 Yeah.
00:05:48.000 Yeah.
00:05:49.000 I mean, obviously, you have that.
00:05:50.000 You're still in great shape.
00:05:51.000 You got to be.
00:05:51.000 You know, yeah.
00:05:52.000 You still keep it together.
00:05:54.000 I do.
00:05:54.000 I do.
00:05:54.000 I've been, you know, I recently started doing jujitsu, which has been a long time.
00:05:59.000 Really?
00:06:00.000 Where are you training?
00:06:00.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:06:01.000 Brian Glick.
00:06:03.000 He's in Brooklyn.
00:06:03.000 Where's he at?
00:06:04.000 Oh, okay.
00:06:05.000 And he trained under Donahare.
00:06:07.000 Oh, great.
00:06:08.000 Oh, phenomenal.
00:06:09.000 Yeah.
00:06:09.000 And so.
00:06:10.000 That's a great lineage.
00:06:11.000 Yeah.
00:06:11.000 Henso Gracie Donahare.
00:06:13.000 Yeah.
00:06:13.000 Yeah.
00:06:14.000 So he's.
00:06:15.000 He's a lot of fun.
00:06:16.000 Actually, my man Scott, Scott Kahn, you know, put me on to him.
00:06:19.000 Oh, okay.
00:06:20.000 Yeah, we've been working.
00:06:21.000 So it's very humbling.
00:06:24.000 You know, you think you're, yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:06:26.000 Exactly.
00:06:27.000 That's Glick.
00:06:27.000 That's Glick.
00:06:28.000 That's my teacher.
00:06:30.000 And so that's a lot of fun.
00:06:31.000 How long have you been doing that now?
00:06:33.000 Not long at all. 1.00
00:06:34.000 And you find out that you think you're a tough guy, but you're really a little old lady. 1.00
00:06:38.000 You find out really quickly. 1.00
00:06:41.000 It's so humbling.
00:06:42.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh, you're tough.
00:06:47.000 Oh, you're tough.
00:06:49.000 You find out real quick.
00:06:49.000 Exactly.
00:06:51.000 So I've, you know, because, you know, when I was young, I enjoyed martial arts, like a little Sado karate, a little Wing Chun, a little Ichuan.
00:07:00.000 Like, I like the martial arts.
00:07:02.000 So, but this one, this is a completely different thing because, you know, it's just, you know.
00:07:11.000 You feel helpless.
00:07:12.000 There's no question about it.
00:07:13.000 You are.
00:07:14.000 Yeah, you're helpless.
00:07:15.000 And you don't think you are until you do it, and then your whole world shatters.
00:07:18.000 You're like, oh, no.
00:07:20.000 Yeah, a guy put you in a closed guard and say, Get out.
00:07:22.000 Come on, get out.
00:07:24.000 And you do everything but stand up, you know, when you first start.
00:07:24.000 You're good.
00:07:28.000 It's crazy.
00:07:29.000 Yeah, so it was fun.
00:07:30.000 It's a deep pool, too.
00:07:31.000 There's a lot to learn.
00:07:33.000 It keeps going forever and ever and ever.
00:07:34.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:07:36.000 But that's life.
00:07:37.000 Yeah.
00:07:37.000 That's what I like about life, you know, because, you know, we want to maximize our potential, right?
00:07:42.000 Well, I think it's really good for famous people to do something that doesn't depend at all on your personality or your status or your stature.
00:07:50.000 I think it's good for your head.
00:07:51.000 Because it's an undeniable thing.
00:07:54.000 Like, you are either good at this or you are not good at this.
00:07:57.000 There's no charm, there's no charisma.
00:08:01.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:08:02.000 I'm really charismatic.
00:08:03.000 Let me go.
00:08:04.000 Nobody shows up.
00:08:05.000 They love you the moment they see you.
00:08:06.000 There's none of that.
00:08:07.000 You can't charisma your way out of an Americana or a Kimura? 0.82
00:08:10.000 Because that's the opiate for celebrities.
00:08:14.000 Like this thing with everybody loves you and needing that.
00:08:16.000 Well, see, here's the thing.
00:08:17.000 Here's the thing.
00:08:18.000 I'm a celebrity by consequence.
00:08:20.000 Like, as a result of what I did, I'm not a guy who's celebrity minded.
00:08:24.000 I'm an artist, Joe.
00:08:26.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:08:28.000 I'm famous by default because of the things that I do have made me known, but I don't walk in rooms feeling famous.
00:08:35.000 I'm an artist.
00:08:35.000 That's a great perspective.
00:08:36.000 That's a great perspective.
00:08:37.000 I'm not in it for the fame thing.
00:08:40.000 I'm way more blue collar. 0.99
00:08:42.000 I'm not like remotely interested in hitting you with the famous with the long cigarette holder and the ascot and shit. 0.99
00:08:49.000 Like, I'm like so not into that. 0.98
00:08:52.000 Like, I'm like way different.
00:08:54.000 Like, I'm not even remotely near that.
00:08:56.000 Imagine rocking a cigarette holder.
00:08:58.000 Can you imagine? 0.88
00:08:59.000 I can see Cat Williams doing it.
00:09:00.000 I can see Cat Williams with a cigarette holder.
00:09:01.000 It would work for Cat.
00:09:02.000 He can pull it off.
00:09:03.000 He can pull anything off. 0.99
00:09:05.000 And he's going to say some genius shit about it on top of that. 0.99
00:09:09.000 So, yeah, he can pull it off. 0.93
00:09:10.000 But me walking in with the cigarette holder, what if you walked in here today?
00:09:13.000 And I had a cigarette holder.
00:09:16.000 And when you said, hey, hey, LL, I went like this.
00:09:19.000 You know, I just hit you with the.
00:09:22.000 What is the purpose of the cigarette holder?
00:09:25.000 Other than keeping the cigarette further from your face?
00:09:27.000 I don't want my hands dirty.
00:09:29.000 I don't want my hands to smell like cigarettes.
00:09:31.000 I don't know what the purpose is.
00:09:32.000 It's just all wrong.
00:09:34.000 I don't know what the purpose is.
00:09:35.000 It's just all wrong.
00:09:36.000 The only person who pulled it off was Hunter S. Thompson. 0.88
00:09:38.000 He had it and just somehow or another seemed ridiculous.
00:09:41.000 Can we put a picture up of him?
00:09:42.000 Because I'm not familiar.
00:09:43.000 Hunter S. Thompson, the writer, he's the one that did that Johnny Depp movie.
00:09:46.000 Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
00:09:47.000 Okay, okay.
00:09:48.000 It's based on one of his books.
00:09:49.000 Okay.
00:09:50.000 It's Hunter's Books.
00:09:51.000 Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:09:52.000 He used to have a cigarette holder.
00:09:53.000 Yeah, but he's doing it a little bit more aggressively.
00:09:56.000 I'm talking about that other one.
00:09:58.000 I'm talking about that other one.
00:09:58.000 Yeah.
00:09:59.000 The long one.
00:10:00.000 The long one, dude.
00:10:01.000 Yeah.
00:10:01.000 The black one with the silver ring.
00:10:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, you know.
00:10:05.000 I think he did it more aggressively.
00:10:05.000 Yeah.
00:10:06.000 Your man Hunter's cool. 0.99
00:10:07.000 Oh, he was cool as fuck. 0.97
00:10:08.000 Yeah, he's cool. 1.00
00:10:09.000 A complete total maniac. 0.89
00:10:10.000 You know what I mean? 1.00
00:10:12.000 Out of his mind on drugs, but wrote some of the most genius shit ever. 0.99
00:10:16.000 I mean, you know. 0.98
00:10:17.000 Yeah, make it through, man.
00:10:19.000 If you're going through hell, keep going, baby.
00:10:20.000 Yeah.
00:10:21.000 Sometimes come out the other side.
00:10:23.000 Some people need something to get out of their own head, you know?
00:10:25.000 And that's.
00:10:26.000 Yeah, it's called humility.
00:10:28.000 Yeah.
00:10:29.000 Yeah, that helps too.
00:10:30.000 That perspective that you have is a great perspective because, like, that's the way to get through it.
00:10:34.000 And young people should hear that too is that, like, just be an artist and be famous as a consequence of what you've done.
00:10:41.000 Exactly.
00:10:42.000 Exactly.
00:10:42.000 Yeah.
00:10:43.000 As opposed to.
00:10:43.000 Because if you're arrogant, you can't learn anything.
00:10:49.000 And the most fulfilling thing of this whole thing is learning some stuff.
00:10:52.000 Yeah.
00:10:53.000 Like that's what's fun.
00:10:54.000 Right, right.
00:10:55.000 What's not fun is just thinking about yourself all day.
00:10:58.000 That's kind of boring, at least to me.
00:11:00.000 Well, it's kind of crazy.
00:11:01.000 It is.
00:11:03.000 It really is.
00:11:04.000 And the best way to not think about yourself all day is to try to learn something difficult.
00:11:08.000 100%.
00:11:08.000 Yeah.
00:11:09.000 Like when you're doing jiu jitsu, the last thing you're thinking about is yourself.
00:11:09.000 100%.
00:11:09.000 Yeah.
00:11:13.000 You're not thinking about anything.
00:11:14.000 Yeah, you're just surviving.
00:11:15.000 You're just thinking about surviving and hoping that he doesn't give you the.
00:11:21.000 You know what I mean?
00:11:22.000 Cover your mouth.
00:11:22.000 That's the worst thing.
00:11:23.000 It's so humiliating.
00:11:25.000 Yeah.
00:11:25.000 You know?
00:11:27.000 That's cool that you're doing it, though.
00:11:28.000 It's very exciting.
00:11:29.000 Yeah, it's, you know, man, I like that and I like reading, you know.
00:11:34.000 Love the books, man. 1.00
00:11:36.000 What kind of shit do you read? 1.00
00:11:37.000 Read everything. 1.00
00:11:38.000 Yeah, I read everything from Carl von Clausewitz to.
00:11:38.000 Yeah?
00:11:41.000 Who's that?
00:11:42.000 He's an Austrian general.
00:11:46.000 Prussian general, actually.
00:11:47.000 Prussian.
00:11:47.000 Prussian general who, you know, talked about this concept called friction.
00:11:52.000 And he has this Clausewitzian triangle where he talks about, like, you know, you have these three areas that the pendulum swings over like probability and chance, logic and reason, and luck.
00:12:07.000 You know, no, probability and chance, logic and reason, and passion and enmity, hatred.
00:12:11.000 So you can look at society right now and you can take a Clausewitzian trinity and put it over society, and you know that we're operating in a place of emotions and passions.
00:12:22.000 So logic and reasons wouldn't even.
00:12:25.000 Making it, you know, wouldn't even mean anything.
00:12:26.000 So it's the Trinity, you know, so it really helps you think about life, you know.
00:12:31.000 Interesting.
00:12:32.000 So the grand strategy is at the center of it all government, politics, reason, intelligence, the armed forces, calculation, chance, game of chance, odds, values.
00:12:42.000 Fascinating.
00:12:43.000 Yeah, yeah, it's cool.
00:12:44.000 How did you get into this guy?
00:12:45.000 I just read all kinds of stuff.
00:12:47.000 I love literature, love history, love reading things that make me better.
00:12:53.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99
00:12:54.000 And what you find out is the more you read, The less you know, the more you know, the more you find out, the more you realize you don't know shit. 0.99
00:13:02.000 And because of that, it becomes more exciting. 0.98
00:13:06.000 And I wanted to navigate entertainment.
00:13:07.000 It's like what you talked about, right?
00:13:09.000 You know, you're 16, 17, 18 years old.
00:13:11.000 Now, either you can get high all day, spend all your money, and twist yourself out and go on a binge, or you can figure out something else.
00:13:21.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:13:22.000 And so I just.
00:13:23.000 How did you know that at 16?
00:13:26.000 My mother would show me, like, books of, like, Drug addicts with like sores on their arms and say, Hey, Todd, this is, you know, this is what happens when you, you know, get out in that world.
00:13:39.000 If you can ruin your career and ruin your life, this is what happens, you know?
00:13:44.000 Oh, wow. 0.97
00:13:44.000 And, you know, that combined with her telling me, Todd, you know, girls don't like dummies. 0.97
00:13:49.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.95
00:13:51.000 You know what I mean?
00:13:52.000 You know?
00:13:53.000 Not like you're trying to be like, you know, Mr. Scientist, like some pedantic super nerd at the same time, no.
00:13:59.000 You want to stay inquisitive, stay curious.
00:14:01.000 You know what I mean? 1.00
00:14:02.000 Well, women want a man who can navigate life. 1.00
00:14:04.000 There's no question about that. 1.00
00:14:05.000 Yeah, and intelligence is one of the best ways, one of the best tools to navigate life.
00:14:10.000 Intelligence, health, and that inner emotional strength.
00:14:15.000 You need intestinal fortitude to go with the intelligence, right?
00:14:18.000 Because if you have intelligence but no willpower, you still get banged out.
00:14:23.000 You just be a smart punk.
00:14:23.000 Right.
00:14:25.000 You know what I mean?
00:14:25.000 That gives up.
00:14:26.000 You know what I mean?
00:14:28.000 That gives up early.
00:14:29.000 But you're smart.
00:14:30.000 I know why I'm giving up.
00:14:32.000 I know why I'm giving up, but I'm going to go to therapy and never get better.
00:14:37.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:14:38.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:14:39.000 I mean, that's one of the key elements of society today that's not embraced is like discipline and drive and understanding that you have to have the ability to persevere through difficult times and that giving up, there's no virtue in being emotional and giving up.
00:14:57.000 That's the opposite.
00:14:58.000 It's bad for you.
00:14:59.000 Everybody feels bad sometimes in your life, but giving up like that and celebrating that.
00:15:04.000 And embracing it, you know, like, oh, he's in touch with his emotions.
00:15:09.000 Is that what that is? 0.99
00:15:09.000 No, he's in touch with some shit that's going to get him ran over. 0.99
00:15:14.000 No, you got to, you know what I mean? 0.99
00:15:16.000 Like, yo, you got to see, empathy is not the same as what you're just right?
00:15:22.000 Because empathy, we need empathy.
00:15:24.000 Yes.
00:15:24.000 But empathy is not the same as weakness.
00:15:27.000 Exactly.
00:15:28.000 Yeah.
00:15:28.000 And, you know, one spark can set a prairie on fire.
00:15:30.000 So we got to be, you know, we got to manage our moods and we got to be able to.
00:15:35.000 Do what we need to do even when we don't feel like doing it, right?
00:15:38.000 Because that's the language of success.
00:15:40.000 Yeah.
00:15:41.000 Right?
00:15:42.000 That's a really important quote.
00:15:43.000 One spark can set a prairie on fire because how many people they spiral out from one bad thought they start pursuing?
00:15:50.000 There you go.
00:15:51.000 Yeah.
00:15:52.000 You got to get out of your own way.
00:15:53.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:15:54.000 Like, that's super important, man.
00:15:57.000 That's super important.
00:15:59.000 You know what I mean?
00:16:00.000 It is.
00:16:01.000 Yeah.
00:16:01.000 You know?
00:16:02.000 Real talk.
00:16:03.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00
00:16:04.000 No one teaches you that shit in school. 1.00
00:16:06.000 Like, you have to have wise people around you to show you that way, or you have to slowly figure it out on your own. 1.00
00:16:11.000 Yeah, you got to go through some drama, and you got to be able to see the silver lining, and you got to be able to finish the marathon.
00:16:22.000 And.
00:16:24.000 That requires your ability to, you know, get comfortable being uncomfortable.
00:16:31.000 I know it's kind of a cliche, but it's true.
00:16:33.000 You got to be comfortable being uncomfortable.
00:16:35.000 Like, you got to be able to keep going and understand that there's another side.
00:16:39.000 Like, I heard this guy, I don't know who he was, so I'm not trying to take credit for this, but this guy said, like, if you're on a plane and, you know, one engine's on fire, if you're flying a plane, you keep flying.
00:16:53.000 Or else, what are you going to do?
00:16:56.000 I mean, yeah, you look to land, but you got to keep going.
00:16:58.000 You don't crash the plane.
00:16:59.000 If two engines are on fire, what do you do?
00:17:02.000 You keep flying until you can save the land.
00:17:04.000 So in life, you don't give up just because one of your engines is not acting the way you want it to.
00:17:09.000 You have to treat your life like you, you know, attitude determines your altitude, right?
00:17:14.000 So you got to.
00:17:15.000 Well, everybody wants to be comfortable.
00:17:17.000 That's the thing.
00:17:18.000 Because we're so often uncomfortable that everyone seeks to be comfortable.
00:17:22.000 And then once they're comfortable, they want to hold on to it and only be comfortable.
00:17:26.000 Right.
00:17:27.000 And then they stop making progress.
00:17:28.000 Exactly.
00:17:29.000 They stop evolving.
00:17:30.000 And they become defensive.
00:17:30.000 Exactly.
00:17:31.000 Yeah.
00:17:31.000 You know what I mean?
00:17:32.000 They just crawl up and they become a hedgehog.
00:17:34.000 They just go into a ball and don't try to do nothing in life.
00:17:37.000 They also get very upset at ambitious people.
00:17:40.000 Well, some can.
00:17:41.000 Some people can.
00:17:41.000 Some people can.
00:17:42.000 Because it's a reminder, right?
00:17:44.000 Like, I can understand how painful it might be for somebody who is afraid to go for that next level, afraid to do that next thing, to see somebody else wholeheartedly committing.
00:17:57.000 But what you have to understand is that.
00:17:57.000 Yeah.
00:18:00.000 Like, you'll have somebody say to you, I don't want to go back to school.
00:18:05.000 You'd be like, why?
00:18:06.000 I'm saying if they want to do, oh, because it'll take three years. 0.97
00:18:09.000 Well, three years from now is going to be three years from now any goddamn way. 0.97
00:18:12.000 So just go back to school. 0.82
00:18:14.000 So, going back to what you were saying, it's like the idea of making it, you just got to be comfortable with the idea that people are going to say what they're going to say anyway, and you need to go after your dreams.
00:18:29.000 Dreams don't have deadlines.
00:18:30.000 That's the headline.
00:18:31.000 Dreams don't have deadlines.
00:18:33.000 You just got to go after it.
00:18:35.000 And you know, you lose the battle, you can still win the war, right?
00:18:39.000 With yourself.
00:18:40.000 Yeah.
00:18:41.000 Right?
00:18:42.000 Yeah.
00:18:42.000 With yourself.
00:18:43.000 Yeah.
00:18:43.000 Because we're not looking for perfection.
00:18:44.000 None of us are perfect. 1.00
00:18:45.000 We all did some crazy shit. 1.00
00:18:47.000 We're all crazy. 1.00
00:18:48.000 Everybody's crazy.
00:18:50.000 But at the same time, you could take it to the next level if you keep going.
00:18:53.000 Yes.
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00:20:06.000 Yeah.
00:20:07.000 You know what I mean?
00:20:07.000 Great advice.
00:20:08.000 Yeah, it's real.
00:20:10.000 And it's real from someone who's actually done it.
00:20:11.000 You know, that's what's really important.
00:20:13.000 People can hear that all day from a motivational speaker, but then you could say to that motivational speaker, what exactly have you done?
00:20:20.000 Other than motivate people.
00:20:21.000 A lot of them, the list is very small.
00:20:23.000 But you know what's interesting about that?
00:20:24.000 I hear people say that, but you know what my thinking is?
00:20:26.000 Like, if a homeless guy tells me don't do push ups in traffic, I'm going to listen.
00:20:31.000 You know, I think you get bad advice from people that are great.
00:20:35.000 That are great.
00:20:36.000 Exactly. 1.00
00:20:37.000 You get really good advice from idiots. 1.00
00:20:39.000 Exactly. 1.00
00:20:40.000 And then a moron will tell you something you're like, oh, shit. 1.00
00:20:43.000 So I'm less inclined to concern myself with who the messenger is. 1.00
00:20:47.000 I know it's relevant.
00:20:48.000 Right.
00:20:49.000 But I listen to the message.
00:20:51.000 Because you have to contextualize the message in your life. 1.00
00:20:55.000 That's some Bruce Lee shit. 0.99
00:20:56.000 That's like, absorb what is useful. 0.99
00:20:59.000 Yeah?
00:21:00.000 The way to intercept the fist.
00:21:02.000 Bruce was the man.
00:21:02.000 Bruce is where I got into acting.
00:21:04.000 Really?
00:21:05.000 Absolutely.
00:21:06.000 How'd that happen? 0.92
00:21:06.000 Because, I mean, he was the only dude with a tan that was doing some cool shit on TV or in the movies. 0.92
00:21:13.000 He was a little brownie. 1.00
00:21:13.000 You know? 1.00
00:21:14.000 Bro, all my Asian friends were so happy. 0.99
00:21:17.000 All my Asian friends were like, finally, we have a fucking superhero. 0.98
00:21:20.000 Bro, Bruce was the man. 0.99
00:21:21.000 He was the man, dude.
00:21:22.000 Bruce was the man.
00:21:23.000 He was a man.
00:21:23.000 He changed martial arts for the world.
00:21:26.000 He used to be on Jamaica Avenue with the yellow and black Game of Death suit.
00:21:28.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:21:29.000 The Chinese slippers.
00:21:30.000 Absolutely.
00:21:32.000 Absolutely. 1.00
00:21:33.000 Absolutely walking down the aisle with that shit. 1.00
00:21:36.000 That Game of Death suit was the shit. 1.00
00:21:36.000 Proud. 1.00
00:21:38.000 Right?
00:21:39.000 That yellow with the black stripes with the joint.
00:21:42.000 Yeah.
00:21:42.000 That yellow Game of Death suit.
00:21:44.000 I don't think people understand how revolutionary he was.
00:21:49.000 All martial arts were all, they were all siloed.
00:21:53.000 Like, if you did kung fu and your instructor caught you doing Shotokan somewhere, they'd be upset with you.
00:22:01.000 It was very siloed, and Bruce Lee came along and said, No.
00:22:05.000 Who was the first mixed martial artist?
00:22:06.000 The first.
00:22:07.000 The first.
00:22:07.000 You know what I mean?
00:22:08.000 I mean, he's doing American boxing, Chinese boxing, kung fu, Salat.
00:22:12.000 Yeah, some karate.
00:22:14.000 Salat is crazy too.
00:22:15.000 Yeah. 0.55
00:22:16.000 He did judo, everything.
00:22:18.000 Yeah.
00:22:19.000 And he put it all together, and that was heresy.
00:22:22.000 Yeah. 0.89
00:22:22.000 Yeah, people wanted to kill him for that. 0.89
00:22:24.000 Yeah, well, yeah. 0.81
00:22:24.000 Yeah. 0.81
00:22:26.000 That rumor still persists, right?
00:22:28.000 Yeah, it does.
00:22:28.000 Well, I think that rumor has to do with the triad, with the Chinese mob, because they were financing his early movies.
00:22:35.000 The Raymond Chow movies that he was doing?
00:22:37.000 Yeah, and then he left.
00:22:39.000 And when he left them, there was a gigantic dispute.
00:22:42.000 So when he went to Hollywood, there was a gigantic dispute.
00:22:45.000 So I think that's what the real conspiracy theories.
00:22:49.000 I don't know if they're true.
00:22:50.000 I think he probably just had an aneurysm or whatever that was.
00:22:52.000 It seems like something happened where he had an allergic reaction.
00:22:55.000 Wasn't an allergic reaction?
00:22:57.000 To medication or something like that?
00:22:58.000 Yeah, because they gave him some pills and he went to sleep.
00:23:00.000 He was at someone's apartment, right?
00:23:01.000 Well, I think it's also, he probably had some head injuries.
00:23:05.000 You got to realize, like, he's doing a lot of sparring.
00:23:08.000 He's, you know, he's doing sparring with boxers.
00:23:12.000 He's experimenting with stuff.
00:23:13.000 He's doing crazy scenes in movies.
00:23:16.000 He accidentally got hit.
00:23:17.000 Who knows if he had a brain injury?
00:23:20.000 Okay, cerebral edema, dangerous swelling of the brain attributed by the coroner to a hypersensitivity reaction to ingredients in the prescription painkiller.
00:23:33.000 Equagesic, which he took for a headache.
00:23:35.000 Complained of a headache, given equigesic medication containing aspirin and meprobamate?
00:23:47.000 Aspirin and meprobamate?
00:23:49.000 Meprobamate.
00:23:50.000 He laid down in the rest, became unresponsive, could not be revived after taking to the hospital.
00:23:54.000 Autopsy found severe brain swelling and no external injuries.
00:23:58.000 The brain swelling itself is well established in the historical record, but the precise trigger remains unrecognizable.
00:24:05.000 The official conclusion focused on drug hypersensitivity reaction.
00:24:05.000 Disputed.
00:24:09.000 Later, writers and researchers have proposed other possibilities, including heat related illness and hypo.
00:24:15.000 Well, they're testing us today with the retrospective hypothesis hyponatremia, hyponatremia, dangerously low blood sodium associated with excess water intake.
00:24:26.000 Huh.
00:24:27.000 All right.
00:24:28.000 Retrospective hypotheses.
00:24:30.000 I'm sorry.
00:24:31.000 That's the plural of hypothesis.
00:24:32.000 Retrospective hypotheses.
00:24:35.000 No replacement original official ruling.
00:24:37.000 Yeah, he was unbelievable, man.
00:24:39.000 Well, he was.
00:24:40.000 The Tao of Jeet Kune Do is the original book of mixed martial arts.
00:24:43.000 No question.
00:24:44.000 I bought that book when it came out.
00:24:45.000 I got a copy still.
00:24:47.000 I loved that book, man.
00:24:48.000 It was soft.
00:24:49.000 It was like a soft cover.
00:24:50.000 You remember that?
00:24:50.000 Yep.
00:24:51.000 Soft cover, big, thick, soft cover.
00:24:53.000 Yeah, big, thick, soft cover.
00:24:54.000 Illustrations inside it.
00:24:55.000 Yeah, man.
00:24:56.000 And he took things from everything.
00:24:58.000 He took things from like Western boxing and fainting and jabs, and he got from karate, from Japanese style.
00:25:04.000 You watched Ali?
00:25:05.000 Yeah, oh, yeah.
00:25:06.000 Ali's footwork.
00:25:08.000 He did some of that in the movies, too.
00:25:10.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.64
00:25:11.000 Bruce was a monster.
00:25:12.000 But people today, they see that, you know, they see mixed martial arts, you see all these fighters on television, they see movies.
00:25:19.000 It seems normal to them.
00:25:20.000 They don't understand that back then this was unprecedented.
00:25:23.000 No one had ever done that before.
00:25:25.000 Super.
00:25:26.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:25:26.000 And to be that skillful and do it so he could move so fast that everybody's like, what the fuck? 1.00
00:25:31.000 Lightning quick. 0.99
00:25:32.000 Yeah.
00:25:33.000 Lightning quick.
00:25:34.000 Just changed it for the whole world.
00:25:35.000 Like karate schools just opened up all over the world.
00:25:38.000 Crazy.
00:25:38.000 It's insane.
00:25:39.000 Now, what was crazy at that time, it was blurred because, like, People didn't know the difference between karate and kung fu.
00:25:44.000 It was very blurred.
00:25:45.000 It was very blurred.
00:25:47.000 You know what I mean?
00:25:48.000 Oh, yeah.
00:25:49.000 You just got lucky wherever school you walked into.
00:25:52.000 That's right.
00:25:52.000 You know, you open the yellow pages under martial arts.
00:25:55.000 That's right.
00:25:55.000 I was up at the YMCA in Sato Karate.
00:25:57.000 I'm like, Sato, okay, I'm doing Sato.
00:26:00.000 Walk in his dojo.
00:26:02.000 You know what I mean?
00:26:02.000 A lot of those YMCA classes.
00:26:04.000 They were good, though.
00:26:06.000 Two Knuckles, baby.
00:26:07.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:26:08.000 First two Knuckles.
00:26:09.000 Yeah.
00:26:11.000 It's a crazy time because, like, It just got introduced into the world and it took off.
00:26:16.000 I'm fascinated by things that didn't exist and then all of a sudden burst onto the stage.
00:26:21.000 Innovation.
00:26:21.000 Yeah.
00:26:22.000 Well, that's why hip hop to me is so fascinating, especially early hip hop, because hip hop as an art form before the 1980s was non existent in pop culture.
00:26:31.000 And then all of a sudden it was the dominant force five or six years later.
00:26:35.000 That's right.
00:26:35.000 Like people have to understand what it was like.
00:26:37.000 Like when I was a kid and I was coming up, the first time I heard Sugar Hill Gang was I was in a lunchroom.
00:26:44.000 I was in Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts.
00:26:46.000 At the time, it was a bad neighborhood.
00:26:48.000 Now it's been kind of gentrified.
00:26:50.000 At the time, there were kids that were 17 years old and they were still in the eighth grade.
00:26:55.000 It was crazy.
00:26:56.000 That's, yeah.
00:26:57.000 Oh, yeah.
00:26:58.000 Yeah, there's that.
00:26:59.000 17 years old in the eighth grade is some nasty work.
00:27:01.000 Yeah, it was like that. 1.00
00:27:02.000 Like, no bullshit. 0.96
00:27:03.000 There were kids that should have been graduating from high school and they hadn't even gotten out of middle school yet. 0.99
00:27:07.000 It was just a lot of ne'er-do-wells and people that just came from bad homes and bad neighborhoods. 0.78
00:27:12.000 But it was the first time I had ever heard that.
00:27:15.000 I remember thinking, this is like a Different kind of music.
00:27:18.000 Like this is.
00:27:18.000 Yeah, because, you know, you live in a neighborhood and you feel invisible.
00:27:22.000 Yes.
00:27:23.000 You know, and I think a lot of people can relate to that now.
00:27:25.000 You live in a neighborhood, you feel invisible.
00:27:27.000 Your friends get killed, nobody cares.
00:27:30.000 The news doesn't talk about, you know, they may talk about some major thing, but when your friend down the block gets killed, nobody cares.
00:27:36.000 You walk down, you got this ditty bop that you're walking with like this, and people think you're walking to be cool, but you're really walking because you like, it's like being in the jungle, and you're like a lion, and you're like walking around trying to stay low, and you're watching your environment and your back, right?
00:27:49.000 I used to have a thing in high school you do one, two, three behind you, one, two, three behind you, the whole time down the hallway. 0.97
00:27:55.000 Wow.
00:27:55.000 You know what I mean?
00:27:57.000 Hip hop was the first time that I heard young kids like me sound empowered.
00:28:03.000 And, you know, instead of, you know, because all you saw at that time, if you saw a black kid on the news, all you saw was a guy in handcuffs being put into a police car.
00:28:10.000 That was basically it.
00:28:11.000 Yeah.
00:28:12.000 That and Bruce Lee.
00:28:13.000 Yeah.
00:28:14.000 You know what I mean?
00:28:14.000 So it was like, hip hop is the first time I heard people sound powerful, sound empowered.
00:28:20.000 You know, it wasn't like the Grey Poupon, fancy, I have a lot of money thing that it is today.
00:28:27.000 When we talked about, The money, and that was aspirational.
00:28:30.000 That's what we wanted.
00:28:31.000 Like, you're coming from nothing, right?
00:28:34.000 You're coming from the grime and the dirt, and you're like rapping about what it could be.
00:28:38.000 So, you are, you're extra macho and you're extra bravado and extra because you're an underdog.
00:28:46.000 You know, it became that to like, you know, now it's like, you know, you're on Mount Olympus spitting on, you know, the peasants.
00:28:54.000 You know what I mean?
00:28:56.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:28:57.000 But back then, it was aspirational.
00:28:59.000 It was the opposite.
00:29:00.000 It was the opposite.
00:29:01.000 One of my favorite hip hop videos of all time.
00:29:03.000 Biggie, when he was 17 on the street corner.
00:29:05.000 Oh, when he was rhyming?
00:29:06.000 Yeah.
00:29:06.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:29:07.000 He's a nobody and he's the shit at the same time. 1.00
00:29:11.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:29:12.000 He's the shit at the same time. 1.00
00:29:12.000 And everybody rhymes going, oh, yeah. 1.00
00:29:15.000 He's hitting these lines and his flow was already spectacular.
00:29:18.000 That's right.
00:29:19.000 Because you're basically saying what every.
00:29:25.000 You're like.
00:29:25.000 It's like a different version of Cyrano, but you're doing it for people.
00:29:30.000 It's not about romance necessarily.
00:29:31.000 It's not for this particular.
00:29:33.000 Girl, you're doing it, you're speaking, you become a spokesman for the emotions, the angst, the pain, the desires, the wishes of the people that are like you.
00:29:42.000 And I'm not talking about just ethnicity, I'm talking about culturally people that are like you that come from the energy and the type of places that you come from.
00:29:51.000 So you speak for them.
00:29:53.000 You know what I mean?
00:29:54.000 So when I got the big gold chains on, the big gold chains aren't to say the, the big gold chains are to show people I have something at that time.
00:30:03.000 It meant, yo, not only do I have something, but I'm tough enough to be able to wear this.
00:30:08.000 See, jury back then was a message.
00:30:10.000 You know, anywhere, any neighborhood.
00:30:12.000 It was, I can wear this in this neighborhood.
00:30:15.000 Right. 0.97
00:30:15.000 That's very different from it becoming like, you know, cigarette holders and I got the jury on and it's like a goddamn, like everybody's Liberace. 0.97
00:30:25.000 You know, no disrespect. 0.98
00:30:26.000 Right.
00:30:26.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:30:27.000 It becomes, you know what I mean?
00:30:29.000 You know, no disrespect.
00:30:31.000 You know what I mean?
00:30:32.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:30:33.000 Yeah.
00:30:34.000 I'm going to diss my, not necessary.
00:30:36.000 Yeah.
00:30:37.000 No, it's, you know, that's what's interesting is like that's the first, Music genre where like open displays of wealth became like standard.
00:30:46.000 Right, but here's the thing here's the thing, remember it wasn't an open display of wealth because it wasn't at the wealth level.
00:30:53.000 It wasn't, that wasn't even the mindset.
00:30:55.000 It was, it could be as simple as I have 50 grand in my dresser drawer, I got a gold chain, I got a nice car, and I'm doing better than that, but I couldn't eat six months ago.
00:31:09.000 Right.
00:31:09.000 And look what I did.
00:31:10.000 That's very different from.
00:31:13.000 You know, look at my portfolio.
00:31:15.000 Right, right, right.
00:31:16.000 And my open, ostentatious display of this incredible.
00:31:19.000 You understand what I'm saying?
00:31:20.000 I'm a doctor.
00:31:20.000 Yeah, the mindset is different.
00:31:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:22.000 Right?
00:31:22.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:31:23.000 Because remember, we were taking cues from hustlers too.
00:31:26.000 Like, we got to be honest about that.
00:31:27.000 Like, we were looking at the different hustlers.
00:31:30.000 We were looking at the Supreme Team and we were looking at, you know, AZ and Rich and Alpo, the guys uptown.
00:31:35.000 We were looking at different people and all of that was affecting us too.
00:31:39.000 So it wasn't so much about like, nah, to society.
00:31:44.000 It was more like, I did this in spite of.
00:31:47.000 Right.
00:31:48.000 Like, you got to think about it.
00:31:50.000 Like, if you're, it's like Monopoly, right?
00:31:52.000 Like, somebody I was talking to the other day, like, we play Monopoly and I start off and I got all the paper.
00:31:59.000 And you got hardly nothing.
00:32:01.000 And I get 60%, 70% of the property.
00:32:04.000 And then I say, okay, now let's play. 0.99
00:32:06.000 If you can go around that board and come up, you're going to fucking feel good about yourself. 0.98
00:32:11.000 You might throw a chain on or something. 0.96
00:32:13.000 You might smile a little bit during that game after a while.
00:32:16.000 And so you got to think about it from that mindset.
00:32:19.000 Now we've lapped, people have lapped the game so many times that it's not perceived the same way.
00:32:26.000 But at that time, it wasn't about showing off.
00:32:30.000 The car was about, yo, I really did this.
00:32:33.000 Like, I have something because having something is a major accomplishment. 0.77
00:32:37.000 When you got nothing, I don't care if you're in a trailer park, you're in the inner city, you're in the hood, wherever you're at.
00:32:42.000 When you are able to accomplish something, that's a hell of a feeling.
00:32:46.000 Yes.
00:32:47.000 Right? 0.99
00:32:48.000 And so it wasn't about, like, so the idea of financial, fiscal responsibility and wealth, nobody's thinking about that shit. 0.99
00:32:57.000 I want a Benz. 0.99
00:33:00.000 I want a Benz, bro.
00:33:01.000 Yo, I just want a Benz.
00:33:02.000 Yeah.
00:33:03.000 I remember sitting with the count, and I'm like, yo, he's like, yeah, we're gonna do it.
00:33:07.000 I wanna bend.
00:33:08.000 He's like, yeah, we're gonna take care of this.
00:33:10.000 I wanna bend.
00:33:12.000 You know?
00:33:13.000 And it's like, so we, you know, like I never lost the, yeah, you do stuff with money and all that, but I never lost the mindset of, you know, where you really from.
00:33:25.000 Like people, yo, it's easy to forget.
00:33:28.000 I mean, look, you're like one of the most read people I know because I watch, you know, the stuff and everything.
00:33:33.000 You could be in a bubble and forget.
00:33:35.000 If you didn't get in that gym and you didn't roll around on that mat and you didn't get reminders of humanity, you could forget.
00:33:41.000 In the life, this world that we live in, it's easy to forget.
00:33:46.000 So I kind of, you know, it's comforting to forget.
00:33:49.000 Yeah, I keep that in mind.
00:33:51.000 You said what?
00:33:52.000 It's comforting to forget.
00:33:54.000 It's easy to fall into a band of yes men and be insulated, especially in Hollywood.
00:34:00.000 100%.
00:34:00.000 But then you're not relatable and then you can't learn and you can't handle it.
00:34:03.000 Well, you also go crazy.
00:34:05.000 Oh, without it.
00:34:05.000 That's the problem.
00:34:06.000 It might be Howard Hughes.
00:34:07.000 No disrespect.
00:34:07.000 You'd be Howard Hughes.
00:34:09.000 No disrespect.
00:34:10.000 You know what I mean?
00:34:10.000 You'd be in the room until the 70s.
00:34:12.000 Yeah.
00:34:13.000 Yeah.
00:34:13.000 With all the paper and tissue around you.
00:34:15.000 Well, it's kind of Howard Stern now.
00:34:17.000 He hides in the Hamptons now.
00:34:19.000 That's rough.
00:34:20.000 He didn't do his radio show from his studio for a long time, he did it all remotely.
00:34:26.000 Yeah, you know.
00:34:27.000 People start getting weird with germs.
00:34:29.000 They start worrying about getting sick.
00:34:31.000 Yeah, that's pretty strange.
00:34:33.000 Start washing their hands all day long.
00:34:35.000 Well, I mean, that's okay.
00:34:37.000 I get a little hip of cleanse.
00:34:38.000 I wash my hands on that.
00:34:39.000 I wash my hands.
00:34:40.000 But all that, you know, I wash my hands, you know what I mean?
00:34:43.000 But I think, with, you know, no disrespect to Howard, because I'm a giant fan of his.
00:34:47.000 And, you know, I think he's the pioneer of all this stuff.
00:34:50.000 But I think you can imagine.
00:34:51.000 Well, I mean, he's named after an African American university, so that's the cool.
00:34:54.000 No, I'm kidding.
00:34:54.000 Go ahead, Joe.
00:34:58.000 I'm kidding, Joe. 1.00
00:34:59.000 That's part of his lore, he grew up in an all black neighborhood. 0.99
00:35:02.000 It really is.
00:35:03.000 But he got so famous.
00:35:06.000 It got so famous and so big and so huge and so much money.
00:35:10.000 And I think there's a real potential to be isolated when that happens.
00:35:15.000 And then people get mad at you.
00:35:16.000 I do too.
00:35:17.000 Yeah, I like how I did his show quite a few times.
00:35:19.000 You know, he was always cool to me.
00:35:20.000 He really was.
00:35:21.000 And he gave me love like in the early years when I first started.
00:35:24.000 I got to be honest.
00:35:25.000 He embraced me.
00:35:26.000 He gave me, you know, he kind of like let me come on a show and let me, you know what I'm saying?
00:35:31.000 And that to me, you know, I'm not saying that what you're saying is like.
00:35:34.000 No, listen, I'm not disrespectful.
00:35:36.000 No, I don't think you are.
00:35:37.000 I think he's a legend.
00:35:38.000 And I think if it wasn't for him, you could become isolated.
00:35:40.000 But you can become isolated.
00:35:41.000 You can become isolated.
00:35:43.000 And it's also very hard to even be hanging out with people when you're not famous.
00:35:46.000 It just gets weird for some people.
00:35:49.000 Unless you force yourself to just do uncomfortable things all the time.
00:35:55.000 You know what?
00:35:56.000 And in public.
00:35:57.000 Well, success.
00:36:00.000 Success likes you to be outside, right?
00:36:05.000 It's kind of hard to find success when you're not networking.
00:36:08.000 You could do certain things, but I heard a guy say the other day you know, you put a painting on your garage wall, and whether even if the door is open, it's kind of hard to get people excited, you know what I mean, as opposed to putting it in the gallery.
00:36:20.000 So you have to interact.
00:36:22.000 But, you know, me, like I'm an introvert, even though I do all this stuff.
00:36:25.000 Oh, you really?
00:36:26.000 Yeah, you would think I, but when I go home, I got to read, I got to relax, I got to recharge.
00:36:31.000 Like I can't, you know what I mean?
00:36:33.000 I can't.
00:36:34.000 I don't like being surrounded by a thousand people, but I have a different reason for it because I just learned that it brings problems.
00:36:39.000 Because you can't manage everybody's behavior.
00:36:42.000 Right.
00:36:43.000 Right.
00:36:44.000 And then when the problem happens, then it's LL.
00:36:47.000 Right.
00:36:47.000 Right.
00:36:48.000 You feel me?
00:36:48.000 You feel me?
00:36:49.000 Yeah.
00:36:49.000 LL's friends.
00:36:50.000 Part of LL's crew.
00:36:50.000 Right.
00:36:51.000 You see?
00:36:52.000 Yeah.
00:36:53.000 So it's kind of.
00:36:55.000 Yeah.
00:36:57.000 Today in the news.
00:36:58.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:37:00.000 You know what I mean?
00:37:01.000 Yeah, especially when you're on a cop show.
00:37:04.000 Well, you know what?
00:37:05.000 No, that's funny.
00:37:06.000 Yeah, that's really funny.
00:37:07.000 You know, I didn't even really think, yo, that's pretty funny, bro.
00:37:07.000 That's real funny.
00:37:10.000 That's pretty funny.
00:37:10.000 You know?
00:37:11.000 Bro, I think about it all the time with Ice T. Because I was a giant Ice T fan, still am, but giant Ice T fan growing up.
00:37:18.000 And he had that song, Cop Killer.
00:37:20.000 Remember?
00:37:21.000 He had that song with Body Count.
00:37:24.000 Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
00:37:26.000 Yeah, but a man that could conquer himself is greater than a man who can conquer a city, right?
00:37:30.000 Right, there you go.
00:37:31.000 But it's just funny.
00:37:32.000 Nah, it is.
00:37:33.000 But you know what?
00:37:33.000 It is.
00:37:35.000 You know, like Ice says, He's hustling.
00:37:38.000 Yeah, of course.
00:37:39.000 I say, always.
00:37:40.000 You know what I mean?
00:37:41.000 I mean, he was in Pimps Up, Hose Down.
00:37:41.000 Yeah.
00:37:43.000 Remember that?
00:37:44.000 Without a doubt.
00:37:44.000 Without a doubt.
00:37:46.000 Talking about the green game.
00:37:47.000 Green is for the money, gold is for the honey.
00:37:50.000 This is crazy.
00:37:51.000 The Dom Magic wand.
00:37:51.000 I love it.
00:37:52.000 Absolutely.
00:37:53.000 Absolutely.
00:37:53.000 Yes.
00:37:54.000 Mr. White Folks. 1.00
00:37:55.000 I told Mr. White Folks bananas. 0.98
00:37:55.000 Remember that too? 0.98
00:37:58.000 Bananas.
00:37:59.000 Yo.
00:38:01.000 It was hilarious.
00:38:01.000 Yo.
00:38:02.000 Yo.
00:38:03.000 Well, yeah.
00:38:04.000 So, like, yeah, Ice T's been hustling since the very beginning.
00:38:09.000 He's another pioneer.
00:38:10.000 Without a doubt.
00:38:11.000 But what I want people to really understand is kids today don't understand because hip hop is just a part of their life.
00:38:17.000 It's a part of music.
00:38:18.000 It emerged.
00:38:20.000 And it emerged so quickly from you go from Sugar Hill Gang, which was 80, what was it?
00:38:25.000 That was 79.
00:38:26.000 79?
00:38:26.000 The Rapids Delight was 79.
00:38:28.000 And then you got like NWA.
00:38:30.000 And it happens very quickly.
00:38:31.000 100%.
00:38:31.000 It happens very quickly.
00:38:32.000 You're a public enemy.
00:38:33.000 It happens very quickly.
00:38:34.000 And all of a sudden you have Fight the Power and you're like, whoa, what is this?
00:38:38.000 100%.
00:38:39.000 You know what's funny about the public enemy?
00:38:40.000 I'll tell you a quick little insight.
00:38:41.000 Their logo is actually my friend E Love.
00:38:47.000 Chuck D from Public Enemy took a picture of my man standing next to me on stage and put him in silhouette.
00:38:53.000 Really?
00:38:53.000 Yeah, so when you look at the Public Enemy logo, that's actually my man E Love that created.
00:39:00.000 Yeah, that's my man E Love right there behind that.
00:39:03.000 And you probably, if you actually, you could probably Google E Love, Public Enemy, LL Cool J, you know, and you'll find out that, like, you know, see?
00:39:13.000 See, rest in peace, E Love, aka the Public Enemy logo.
00:39:16.000 And see, that's my man, E Love.
00:39:17.000 See us down there?
00:39:19.000 See, that's us.
00:39:20.000 So that's E, but he just happened to be standing.
00:39:20.000 Yeah.
00:39:23.000 He just happened to be standing in a different pose.
00:39:23.000 See the hat?
00:39:26.000 But that's what, yeah.
00:39:26.000 Wow.
00:39:27.000 He's the logo.
00:39:28.000 May he rest in peace.
00:39:30.000 That was my man.
00:39:32.000 Wow.
00:39:32.000 That was my man.
00:39:33.000 He was a good dude.
00:39:34.000 That was my man.
00:39:35.000 He passed away.
00:39:36.000 But he was like, when we did Crush Groove and all that, and we did the first hip hop, it was an early hip hop, it wasn't first, one of the early hip hop movies.
00:39:43.000 He was standing next to me with the box, him and my man Cut Creative, you know what I'm saying?
00:39:47.000 Shout out to my man Philpot, Cut Creative.
00:39:49.000 Wow.
00:39:51.000 And then Run DMC, of course.
00:39:53.000 Run DMC, you know, those are my friends, you know what I'm saying?
00:39:56.000 Run and Joe.
00:39:57.000 You know, JMJ, rest in peace.
00:39:59.000 You know, they took me on tour.
00:40:02.000 You know, they took me on tour around the world.
00:40:04.000 We went all over the place.
00:40:05.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:40:06.000 It was bananas.
00:40:08.000 It's just bananas.
00:40:09.000 Like, for people to really get it in their mind, what a change that was in music.
00:40:15.000 And how this emergent power and style just took over pop culture, where kids were dressing like them.
00:40:22.000 Like, everybody wanted to be like them.
00:40:24.000 Look at that, Dick Clark.
00:40:25.000 I did Dick Clark in 85. 1.00
00:40:26.000 Oh, shit. 0.99
00:40:27.000 Yeah, I did. 1.00
00:40:28.000 Look at Dick. 0.79
00:40:29.000 Yeah, look at Dick.
00:40:31.000 It's so funny.
00:40:32.000 That's crazy, right?
00:40:32.000 Oh, that's awesome.
00:40:33.000 That's crazy.
00:40:35.000 You know what I mean?
00:40:36.000 That's crazy.
00:40:37.000 That was, yo, that was like, it was like an unbelievable experience.
00:40:41.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:40:42.000 Like, I would go to London and, you know, be like looking for fast food.
00:40:48.000 Like, yo, just please.
00:40:50.000 Like, I didn't understand Yorkshire pudding.
00:40:51.000 I didn't understand none of that.
00:40:53.000 How old were you?
00:40:54.000 When I went to London, maybe 17.
00:40:56.000 Yeah, we went right away.
00:40:56.000 Wow.
00:40:57.000 Wow.
00:40:58.000 Oh, yeah.
00:40:58.000 Right away.
00:40:59.000 Wow.
00:40:59.000 Oh, yeah.
00:41:00.000 What was the reception like over there?
00:41:02.000 It was incredible.
00:41:03.000 It was incredible at first.
00:41:04.000 Now, at one point, I'll be honest with you, when I put the love song out, I got booed.
00:41:10.000 Not booed, but like people were mad.
00:41:12.000 Yeah, because guys were upset that I was willing to be that vulnerable. 1.00
00:41:17.000 But I like them chicks though, baby. 1.00
00:41:19.000 I was like, I like them girls.
00:41:21.000 I'm like, yo, I need to do this.
00:41:23.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:41:24.000 But nah, they gave me a lot of love.
00:41:26.000 And you know, we used to tour all over the place.
00:41:27.000 That's funny that that song.
00:41:29.000 That song, it was huge, but then there was a little, you know, there was a little corner.
00:41:33.000 Well, the problem is the other stuff was so hard.
00:41:36.000 Right.
00:41:37.000 The other stuff was so hard.
00:41:38.000 But that's more real life, isn't it?
00:41:39.000 Right.
00:41:40.000 Well, it's balance.
00:41:40.000 But isn't that more real?
00:41:42.000 Yeah.
00:41:42.000 Yeah.
00:41:43.000 There's nothing wrong with having both.
00:41:43.000 It's balance.
00:41:45.000 I mean, you know, you go home, you get what you got.
00:41:47.000 I mean, you do got a couple of personalities, don't you?
00:41:51.000 Like, I mean, we all do, right?
00:41:52.000 You should.
00:41:53.000 So my art reflected the real.
00:41:55.000 Like, I'm just keeping it 100.
00:41:57.000 Right.
00:41:57.000 Like, you guys want to keep it 50 and call it 100.
00:41:59.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:42:00.000 They just didn't want to expose that part of themselves.
00:42:03.000 Meanwhile, they probably like that song when they're alone.
00:42:06.000 In their room, staring at the wall.
00:42:07.000 No question.
00:42:09.000 No question.
00:42:10.000 No question.
00:42:12.000 Wow.
00:42:14.000 So, was hip hop taking off over there as well with artists, where new artists were emerging in England?
00:42:21.000 Yes, yes.
00:42:23.000 Well, at that time, there wasn't as many, but they got into hip hop very early.
00:42:26.000 The whole world, like, there's a whole lineage of artists that are pioneers around the world that contributed to hip hop in their own countries.
00:42:35.000 I can't name them all, but like in France, you had MC Solar, but there were people before him.
00:42:40.000 Like, you know, there's different.
00:42:41.000 My man Spatz in Germany, there were people before him, obviously.
00:42:44.000 I always get the name wrong, but it starts with an N and a number.
00:42:48.000 I just can't remember.
00:42:49.000 But yeah, I mean, hip hop, like I would go to Japan, you know, and they'd be singing the words to the song verbatim and then can't speak English, but they rap the song.
00:43:01.000 Yeah.
00:43:01.000 Wow.
00:43:02.000 It's crazy.
00:43:03.000 It's amazing.
00:43:04.000 But it made me respect.
00:43:04.000 It's wild.
00:43:06.000 Cultures all over the world, though.
00:43:08.000 It gave me a different kind of mindset for people around the world.
00:43:12.000 How I view things.
00:43:12.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:43:15.000 Because you can be real myopic. 1.00
00:43:17.000 I mean, when I first started going outland to be like, yo, take me to the black neighborhood. 1.00
00:43:21.000 Let me just see what it looks like.
00:43:22.000 They were like, what do you mean?
00:43:26.000 We're in Japan.
00:43:27.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:43:29.000 Like, you know, it's like, so just take me where it's hip hop ish.
00:43:33.000 And then you start getting exposed and you see kids that love graffiti and they love the arts and they love hip hop.
00:43:38.000 And you come to find a newfound respect.
00:43:41.000 Like, I did a record in Germany with my man and he, it's Spatz.
00:43:46.000 I think I'm saying his name right.
00:43:47.000 I mean, he's rapping in German, I'm rapping in English.
00:43:49.000 People in America don't know about the song, but it was like a thing I did over there.
00:43:53.000 And, you know, you just get into a whole world.
00:43:56.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:43:57.000 Yeah.
00:43:58.000 Well, I love Brazilian hip hop because I can't speak Portuguese.
00:44:03.000 I just like listening to the sounds.
00:44:05.000 You know, funny, I think to me, the language that sounds like most impressive to me, I mean, outside of English, I would say is French.
00:44:14.000 French.
00:44:14.000 French sounds incredible.
00:44:15.000 French hip hop sounds incredible.
00:44:16.000 Yo, French hip hop is dope.
00:44:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:19.000 French hip hop is dope. 0.76
00:44:20.000 Yeah, it is.
00:44:21.000 Yo, French hip hop is dope.
00:44:23.000 For real.
00:44:24.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:44:25.000 I like Brazilian.
00:44:26.000 I'm Portuguese.
00:44:26.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:44:27.000 But French is a, you know what I mean?
00:44:30.000 Yeah.
00:44:30.000 You know?
00:44:32.000 I love the music of the whole world, though.
00:44:34.000 For different reasons.
00:44:34.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:44:36.000 You know what I mean?
00:44:37.000 France is fascinating to me.
00:44:39.000 You know, it's a hyper point of mixed martial arts now.
00:44:42.000 Yeah.
00:44:43.000 A lot of elite fighters are coming out of France, including the heavyweight champion of the world, Cyril Gahn.
00:44:47.000 He's from France.
00:44:48.000 Yeah, Cyril.
00:44:48.000 Yeah, Cyril Gahn.
00:44:49.000 The eccentric Dumbe is this dude who fights in the PFL, who's like one of the best kickboxers alive.
00:44:54.000 Yeah. 0.80
00:44:54.000 He's fucking people up in MMA now. 0.80
00:44:56.000 Yeah. 0.90
00:44:57.000 I know Cyril was. 0.99
00:44:58.000 I mean, he's a monster. 1.00
00:45:00.000 He's a freak. 0.98
00:45:01.000 He has changed my thoughts on basses.
00:45:06.000 Like for sports to entry.
00:45:08.000 Well, he's a Muay Thai fighter, but here's the point.
00:45:11.000 He played basketball.
00:45:12.000 That's interesting.
00:45:13.000 This is why.
00:45:14.000 I think basketball is a huge factor for big athletes in particular.
00:45:19.000 If you can play good at basketball, the thing about being good at basketball is you have to be able to change direction constantly.
00:45:26.000 Tennis.
00:45:27.000 Yes, tennis would be a good one, but it's not constant.
00:45:30.000 It's ba bump, ba bump, ba bump, ba bump.
00:45:32.000 Basketball, you're constantly engaging.
00:45:34.000 There's a ball and people, and it's all about juking and movement.
00:45:38.000 And it's all about misdirection.
00:45:40.000 That's huge with striking.
00:45:42.000 You can get a guy as big as Cyril Gantz.
00:45:44.000 He's 248 pounds, but moves like a cat.
00:45:48.000 And I think a big part of that is he spent so much time.
00:45:51.000 It's like plyometrics.
00:45:53.000 You're doing constant plyometrics when you're doing basketball.
00:45:56.000 Plus, hand eye coordination because you have a ball and you're moving the ball wide back and forth, which is very similar to punching.
00:46:02.000 Footwork.
00:46:03.000 Footwork is hugely important.
00:46:03.000 Yes.
00:46:05.000 Footwork in conjunction with the movement of your hands.
00:46:08.000 And distance management.
00:46:09.000 And he can play, man.
00:46:10.000 And he can dodge.
00:46:11.000 Yeah, I saw this clip.
00:46:12.000 Yeah, that boy, and he's really playing.
00:46:14.000 Yes, he's really great.
00:46:16.000 I think there's something legitimate to that as a base because you're constantly.
00:46:21.000 Like soccer is another one.
00:46:23.000 Soccer is a tremendous base for MMA because those guys have great cardio and their legs.
00:46:28.000 They can constantly move back and forth and they don't get tired.
00:46:32.000 That makes sense.
00:46:33.000 It's a huge factor.
00:46:34.000 That makes sense.
00:46:35.000 If you can get that kind of movement, most people don't have that kind of movement, like an elite basketball player movement.
00:46:42.000 And if you're a guy who's like plotting, And like, you know, heavy footed, and you're like moving forward, and there's a guy that's just like light on his toes, and you can't hit him.
00:46:52.000 He's nowhere to be found.
00:46:53.000 That's a big factor.
00:46:55.000 Yeah, I agree.
00:46:55.000 And if you combine that with, you know, mindset, animal mindset, and intellect, now you're really playing at a different level, right?
00:47:06.000 If you can do one, so they do two, so you can grab the three.
00:47:09.000 You know what I mean?
00:47:10.000 If you can really, you know, if you're really thinking that way, now you're at a whole nother level, because that makes the difference, too.
00:47:17.000 It's the mindset and the intellect.
00:47:18.000 Like when you look at Floyd, like, you know, yo, the intellect, the traps he's setting, you know, the process, the standing in front of you, the giving you something just to take it away and catch, you know, like those little things that matters.
00:47:32.000 And you can't hit him and he's right in front of you.
00:47:34.000 That's right.
00:47:35.000 He's not moving around and he's not constant with footwork like Ali was in his prime.
00:47:41.000 No, he's right in front of you, shoulders.
00:47:43.000 Yeah, just giving you a little something. 0.99
00:47:44.000 And you can't do shit. 0.98
00:47:44.000 Just giving you, just, just, because you're telling on yourself. 0.98
00:47:47.000 Yeah.
00:47:47.000 He's looking at your hips, he's looking at your elbow.
00:47:49.000 You know, you're telling on yourself.
00:47:51.000 Yeah.
00:47:51.000 Yeah.
00:47:52.000 Easily the most elusive guy who stood right in front of people.
00:47:52.000 You know what I mean?
00:47:56.000 Him, Sweet Pea.
00:47:57.000 Sweet Pea. 0.87
00:47:58.000 But Sweet Pea would move too.
00:48:00.000 He would stand right in front of you, but he would also move.
00:48:01.000 But he would be moving backwards and getting out of there.
00:48:04.000 He was incredible with that.
00:48:05.000 There's also this Italian boxer.
00:48:08.000 You got to look it up.
00:48:09.000 He's like a.
00:48:12.000 I think he's like Floyd before Floyd.
00:48:15.000 Even before Floyd's pops.
00:48:16.000 Look for the.
00:48:18.000 Look for.
00:48:20.000 No, no, actually he's Italian, but he was in Argentina, but he's Italian.
00:48:26.000 And he's one of the most incredible, elusive fighters I've ever seen in my life.
00:48:30.000 What year was this?
00:48:31.000 This is, I want to say, 40s, 50s, 60s. 1.00
00:48:35.000 Like, look, Italian.
00:48:37.000 Yeah, you got him?
00:48:38.000 Watch this.
00:48:39.000 What's his name?
00:48:41.000 Nicolino, yeah.
00:48:42.000 Nicolino, watch Nicolino.
00:48:44.000 Watch Nicolino.
00:48:46.000 Watch Nicolino.
00:48:47.000 Watch.
00:48:47.000 No, this ain't him.
00:48:49.000 That's not him.
00:48:50.000 Yeah, no, you got to, but fine.
00:48:52.000 Yeah, here he is.
00:48:53.000 Yeah, now watch him, Oh, they're comparing it.
00:48:57.000 Like, get him, find him.
00:48:58.000 Look at it, look at it, look at it, look at this, look at this.
00:49:01.000 Oh, I have seen this guy ever fight. 1.00
00:49:02.000 Look at this, shit. 1.00
00:49:08.000 This is crazy. 1.00
00:49:09.000 You know, you can't, like, I mean, he's unbelievable.
00:49:12.000 And this is like a bad fight because I'm looking at his eye and it looked like he didn't, you know.
00:49:16.000 But I mean, when you really watch him, unbelievable.
00:49:18.000 When you get him on the ropes, you find him on the ropes.
00:49:21.000 I mean, this guy is just unbelievable.
00:49:24.000 Nicolino, Luce, what's his last name?
00:49:27.000 Yeah, Loche.
00:49:28.000 Loche?
00:49:29.000 I'm not sure.
00:49:30.000 Loche?
00:49:31.000 Yo, he is just, I mean, his, like, when you get, like, you can't hit him.
00:49:36.000 Like, that's all Floyd.
00:49:37.000 You see it?
00:49:38.000 You see it, right?
00:49:39.000 And this is early.
00:49:40.000 Yo, this is crazy.
00:49:41.000 There was a lot of guys like this back then.
00:49:42.000 Look at this.
00:49:42.000 Look at it.
00:49:43.000 Look, watch this.
00:49:44.000 Look at this. 1.00
00:49:45.000 Come on, baby.
00:49:46.000 Have you ever seen Willie Pep?
00:49:47.000 Absolutely.
00:49:48.000 Absolutely.
00:49:48.000 Yeah.
00:49:49.000 Willie Pep's another one.
00:49:50.000 He won an entire round without throwing balls.
00:49:52.000 Yeah, he was unbelievable.
00:49:54.000 Willie Pep, come on.
00:49:54.000 Yeah.
00:49:56.000 You know, my uncle was John Henry Lewis.
00:50:01.000 He was a light heavyweight champion.
00:50:02.000 Really?
00:50:03.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:50:04.000 That was your uncle?
00:50:05.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:50:05.000 Wow.
00:50:06.000 Yeah, my granduncle.
00:50:07.000 You know, my mother's uncle.
00:50:08.000 So you've been a boxing fan since you were really young?
00:50:10.000 I've been a.
00:50:11.000 Actually, here's the crazy thing.
00:50:13.000 I didn't even know that I had all of these boxers in my family until I did my DNA research with Henry Louis Gate on Finding Yarusa, and they did this whole thing and came to find out all of these people are in my lineage for real.
00:50:28.000 Like, this is because my mother was adopted.
00:50:30.000 That's why I didn't know.
00:50:32.000 And then I came to find out, yo, my uncle, all in, like, He's in the Hall of Fame.
00:50:36.000 Wow.
00:50:37.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:50:38.000 He was good.
00:50:39.000 John Henry Lewis.
00:50:40.000 Wow.
00:50:41.000 Pull him up.
00:50:41.000 Pull up John Henry Lewis.
00:50:43.000 That's my uncle.
00:50:43.000 Yeah, him.
00:50:45.000 Wow.
00:50:45.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:50:46.000 He was unbelievable.
00:50:47.000 It's unbelievable.
00:50:49.000 He was incredible.
00:50:51.000 He was incredible.
00:50:52.000 I mean, you know, he went up to, he was light heavyweight.
00:50:53.000 He went up to heavyweight, got knocked out by Joe Lewis really quickly, but he was an unbelievable fighter.
00:50:59.000 You know?
00:51:01.000 He was, yeah, yeah, he was powerful.
00:51:04.000 That's awesome.
00:51:05.000 That's crazy, right?
00:51:06.000 So, you know, so the fight game, I love the fight game.
00:51:09.000 I love it, man.
00:51:10.000 Like, I, you know, sometimes I tell them I miss my kid's wedding to see a good boxing match.
00:51:17.000 Honey, I'm sorry.
00:51:18.000 I know you're.
00:51:19.000 I'll walk you down the aisle in an hour.
00:51:21.000 Well, there's something very definitive about it.
00:51:24.000 Everybody understands what's going on.
00:51:26.000 You don't have to be a fan of boxing to understand what's happening.
00:51:30.000 Combat sports in general.
00:51:31.000 Yeah, you're watching two people's souls get exposed.
00:51:34.000 That's what I was about to say.
00:51:35.000 Yeah.
00:51:35.000 Because it's a soul test.
00:51:37.000 Yeah.
00:51:37.000 Because when you're in the fire, now it's about your soul.
00:51:41.000 Yeah.
00:51:41.000 Because you know what you're dealing with.
00:51:41.000 Right?
00:51:44.000 Yeah.
00:51:44.000 You know, because there's a saying you can look in a man's eyes and tell his rank.
00:51:50.000 Yeah.
00:51:51.000 You can see a person's rank in their eyes.
00:51:53.000 You know what I mean?
00:51:54.000 And I'm not talking about the arrogant, I'm talking about their rank level.
00:51:57.000 Their skill level.
00:51:58.000 Yeah, who they are.
00:52:00.000 Right.
00:52:00.000 Who they are.
00:52:01.000 It might not even be their skill level, but who they are, because your skill level can fluctuate, it can evolve, it can change, but you know what you're dealing with.
00:52:09.000 Right.
00:52:09.000 Right.
00:52:09.000 Like if you get a pit bull puppy, or if you get a, you know, a Rhodesian Rigid Back, you know, or Razorback, is it Razorback or Ridgeback?
00:52:19.000 Ridgeback, yeah.
00:52:20.000 You get one of those, like you can look in a Puppy's eyes, you know what you're dealing with.
00:52:23.000 It reminds me of that movie. 0.61
00:52:25.000 Remember the samurai movie when he gave him the sword or the ball?
00:52:28.000 And he said, Pick one.
00:52:29.000 What movie was that?
00:52:32.000 It was the one where the guy was traveling around and his wife was killed. 1.00
00:52:36.000 And then they said, Nah, this is real shit. 1.00
00:52:39.000 And he said, He put the sword in front of his son and he put a ball in front of his baby son. 1.00
00:52:45.000 He said, If you pick the ball, Shogun Assassin.
00:52:47.000 That's what it is.
00:52:48.000 1980.
00:52:48.000 Yeah, you choose the sword or the ball.
00:52:51.000 If the kid chose the ball, he was going to kill him.
00:52:53.000 Let me see that scene.
00:52:55.000 That's not the actual scene, but it's a great scene.
00:52:58.000 It's a great scene because he found out what was inside of his son.
00:53:01.000 Right.
00:53:02.000 You know what I mean?
00:53:03.000 Wow.
00:53:05.000 That's heavy.
00:53:06.000 I love it, man.
00:53:07.000 Well, that's the thing that trainers have to deal with.
00:53:09.000 There's certain people that, as you're training them, you realize they just don't have it.
00:53:14.000 There's something about them.
00:53:15.000 And then there's other people that you start training right away.
00:53:18.000 You're like, oh, if this guy could figure out how to keep this fire burning, he's got it inside of him. 0.98
00:53:24.000 Because, like, when you hear people say, And this is like, no disrespect, but this is like the thing when you hear people say, I'm maintaining or same old shit. 0.98
00:53:34.000 I don't really like that. 0.97
00:53:35.000 Because you want to thrive, not survive.
00:53:37.000 I actually got that from Glick.
00:53:38.000 That's his quote.
00:53:39.000 But you want to thrive, not survive.
00:53:40.000 So it's just like being on the mat.
00:53:42.000 You want to thrive.
00:53:43.000 So some people live their lives defensively.
00:53:47.000 And they don't take the opportunity to seize the neck when they can.
00:53:50.000 And like, yeah, that's the sword or the ball scene.
00:53:52.000 And he basically is telling his kid, yo, you choose this ball, you will join your mother.
00:53:58.000 His mother's gone.
00:53:59.000 Right.
00:53:59.000 You choose the sword.
00:54:01.000 He's a little baby. 0.99
00:54:01.000 He's crazy. 0.99
00:54:03.000 Exactly. 0.98
00:54:03.000 You choose the sword and you come with me. 0.98
00:54:06.000 Oh, wow.
00:54:08.000 And he put the sword down and he put the ball down.
00:54:11.000 And watch this.
00:54:11.000 Watch this.
00:54:14.000 Yo, yo, somebody wrote here Bloody Revenge. 0.98
00:54:16.000 Pick up a ball and join their mother in death is absolutely insane work. 0.96
00:54:19.000 The quote is hilarious.
00:54:20.000 And then the little boy, he's growing.
00:54:23.000 He's going.
00:54:24.000 He's going.
00:54:28.000 And then, yeah, and ultimately he picks the sword.
00:54:33.000 Ultimately, he picks the sword.
00:54:35.000 It's crazy.
00:54:37.000 That's life, though.
00:54:38.000 That is life.
00:54:39.000 Right?
00:54:41.000 But you gotta wonder how much of that is like just destiny.
00:54:43.000 How much of that is inside of you.
00:54:45.000 Because certain people just have, they're born different.
00:54:49.000 They're born with a different mindset.
00:54:50.000 They're born with a different personality.
00:54:53.000 That's true.
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00:55:53.000 One thing I would say about that though is that that's true, but you also have to have self awareness.
00:56:02.000 So, what does that mean?
00:56:03.000 That means that if I know I have a proclivity or a certain thing that I go, you know, I can make certain things, you know what I mean?
00:56:12.000 Like, I know I'm not hungry in a certain area, you can decide to improve.
00:56:18.000 Yeah.
00:56:18.000 Now, That doesn't mean it's easy.
00:56:20.000 I didn't say it's easy.
00:56:21.000 And that doesn't mean that I can't relate to people going through stuff because people go through stuff.
00:56:25.000 And that's legit.
00:56:27.000 But you can decide to be better.
00:56:31.000 I didn't say it's easy.
00:56:33.000 But you can decide to be better.
00:56:35.000 Right?
00:56:35.000 Yeah.
00:56:36.000 It's kind of like the pro and the amateur.
00:56:38.000 The amateur says to the pro, I want to be where you are.
00:56:42.000 I want to be at the level you're on.
00:56:44.000 And the pro says, well, you're going to have to sacrifice.
00:56:46.000 You're going to have to dig deep.
00:56:47.000 You're going to have to go through some pain.
00:56:49.000 You're going to go through some trials.
00:56:50.000 It's going to be tough for you.
00:56:51.000 And the amateur says, that's easy for you to say you're a pro.
00:56:57.000 Right?
00:56:58.000 You feel what I'm saying?
00:57:01.000 Yeah.
00:57:02.000 Because a lot of times people, they suspend success in advance.
00:57:07.000 They say, that's too hard.
00:57:12.000 Right.
00:57:12.000 Oh, that's easy for you to say, means I interpret that to mean, that's too hard for me.
00:57:21.000 Or, I think that's too hard for me.
00:57:23.000 No, it's not too hard for you.
00:57:26.000 You just don't want to be uncomfortable.
00:57:27.000 Yeah.
00:57:28.000 But that's not easy.
00:57:30.000 And see, that's the part.
00:57:31.000 Like, I'll give you an example.
00:57:32.000 Like, and you may have heard this, you'd be on a set somewhere, and yo, how you doing?
00:57:35.000 Living a dream.
00:57:37.000 People say, living a dream.
00:57:39.000 Most of the time, when they say that, it almost sounds like they're upset, but they're trying to keep themselves happy.
00:57:44.000 But what they don't fail to realize is when you dream of roses, you get thorns.
00:57:49.000 If you and I decide we're going to go on an adventure and we're going to climb Mount Everest and we put the work in, That doesn't mean we're not going to deal with weather.
00:57:56.000 We're not going to deal with slippery slopes.
00:57:58.000 Our legs aren't going to be burning from climbing.
00:58:00.000 It doesn't mean that.
00:58:02.000 It doesn't mean it's easy.
00:58:05.000 It just means that, you know, it's a challenge that we're going after, but challenges are difficult.
00:58:09.000 So success is difficult.
00:58:11.000 And I think that particular piece right there is what people forget and they miss.
00:58:16.000 Well, I think young people today also are looking for something to happen quickly.
00:58:20.000 No question.
00:58:22.000 You know what's crazy?
00:58:23.000 So I got this theory, I got a hypothesis.
00:58:26.000 I got a lot of them, Joe.
00:58:26.000 Okay.
00:58:27.000 I'm out of my mind.
00:58:28.000 So, it's like the internet is like a script, right?
00:58:33.000 Yeah.
00:58:34.000 But real life is on its feet.
00:58:37.000 You've been on sets, you did shows, you did all kinds of stuff.
00:58:39.000 So, you know, sometimes you can have a script and it doesn't work on its feet.
00:58:42.000 They'll say, oh, this isn't working once you put it on its feet.
00:58:44.000 Well, guess what?
00:58:45.000 If you've been living on the internet, you've been dealing with a script the whole time.
00:58:49.000 Then you get in real life and you're awkward, you can't interact with people, et cetera, because what you've learned in this script and what you've studied isn't working on its feet.
00:58:59.000 You follow what I'm saying?
00:59:00.000 So, in other words, like, in other words, what works behind a keyboard, like, you know, when Mike says people got too comfortable with saying stuff and not getting punched in the face for it, what works on a keyboard doesn't necessarily work when I walk into your studio and me and you are kicking it.
00:59:16.000 Right.
00:59:16.000 Right?
00:59:16.000 Right.
00:59:17.000 That's what, but I think people, so to go back to what you're saying with kids, a lot of times, not all, because there are a lot of animals out there that want it, but a lot of them, they want, Real life to work like the internet.
00:59:31.000 Instant validation.
00:59:33.000 Everybody loves me.
00:59:35.000 Instant this, instant that.
00:59:37.000 Order the drink, order the stuff, get the thing. 0.56
00:59:37.000 Yeah. 0.56
00:59:42.000 Yeah.
00:59:42.000 But real life, you got to really get out there and hunt.
00:59:44.000 You got to really get out there in the woods.
00:59:47.000 You know?
00:59:49.000 Like the internet will reward you for chopping down trees in the wrong forest.
00:59:56.000 Yeah.
00:59:58.000 Yeah.
00:59:58.000 You know?
00:59:59.000 Yeah.
01:00:00.000 But in real life, you got to put your ladder against the right wall, right?
01:00:04.000 That is the weird thing about the internet.
01:00:06.000 And then a lot of people are becoming famous just for being people, just streaming.
01:00:10.000 Yeah.
01:00:11.000 And so then there's a lot of young kids where they look at that as an avenue for life, where you're not creating anything really, you're not becoming better at anything really.
01:00:20.000 There's no art.
01:00:22.000 And here's the thing about it, though.
01:00:23.000 Here's the thing I believe.
01:00:24.000 I think that some streamers really are artists, and they really are doing what's in their spirit.
01:00:29.000 Like when I see a kid like Speed going out and doing his stuff and running around.
01:00:33.000 Yeah, that's different.
01:00:34.000 But he's doing things.
01:00:34.000 Right.
01:00:34.000 I know.
01:00:35.000 But he's doing things, but it feels like to me that it's coming from here.
01:00:39.000 Yeah.
01:00:39.000 Right?
01:00:40.000 Some people are just turning a camera on and saying anything for clicks.
01:00:43.000 Right.
01:00:44.000 Right?
01:00:45.000 No disrespect to them.
01:00:47.000 But we should do the title of this, no disrespect.
01:00:52.000 But the reality is that that's not.
01:00:58.000 You're not really doing anything.
01:00:59.000 And you're going to get rewarded.
01:01:00.000 You'll make money.
01:01:01.000 You'll buy cars.
01:01:02.000 You'll.
01:01:02.000 Buy stuff, you're going to feel empty.
01:01:04.000 Your soul won't evolve.
01:01:05.000 Yeah.
01:01:07.000 You should find something that you could express yourself in, something that's legitimate, something that is uniquely you.
01:01:13.000 What would you do if you weren't afraid, right?
01:01:15.000 That's always the big question.
01:01:16.000 What would you do if you weren't afraid?
01:01:18.000 If you weren't afraid, what would you do?
01:01:19.000 I always say if you had a documentary crew filming your life and it was a story about your success, but it all starts now, live like that.
01:01:29.000 Like live like a documentary crew is following your journey to success.
01:01:33.000 Yeah.
01:01:34.000 Do all the things that that person would do.
01:01:36.000 Yeah.
01:01:37.000 Decide, like, what is it that that kind of person would do?
01:01:41.000 What are the steps they would take to succeed?
01:01:43.000 That's powerful, too.
01:01:44.000 That's powerful.
01:01:45.000 Because it's like, you know, you're channeling something.
01:01:49.000 That's like channeling it, you know.
01:01:52.000 It's kind of, it's not fake it till you make it, but in a way, it's embodying what you want to ultimately become.
01:01:57.000 Yeah.
01:01:58.000 Right? 0.99
01:01:58.000 Like, if you were watching a documentary on a very inspirational person, like, look at this motherfucker, crack a dong, gets in the ice bath, you know? 0.99
01:02:06.000 He's out there running on the road, he's getting his work in, he's doing these things. 0.98
01:02:09.000 Like, that's what you would.
01:02:10.000 You would say, God, I want to be like that guy.
01:02:12.000 Well, just do it.
01:02:14.000 And then you know the thing is, right?
01:02:16.000 You know what, Joe?
01:02:17.000 And this is the language of success we're talking about right now.
01:02:19.000 You got to be relentless.
01:02:22.000 That's why I like shout out to my man, Tim Grover.
01:02:24.000 He wrote the book Relentless.
01:02:25.000 He trained Michael Jordan, he trained Kobe.
01:02:29.000 I work with him sometimes.
01:02:30.000 Good vibe, good friend of mine.
01:02:33.000 You have to be relentless.
01:02:34.000 The book is great, by the way.
01:02:35.000 But you have to be relentless in life.
01:02:35.000 People should check it out.
01:02:39.000 Like, you have to really, really want it.
01:02:42.000 I didn't say it was easy.
01:02:44.000 Please don't conflate relentless with easy or relentless with every moment's going to be a bed of roses.
01:02:51.000 That's not what I said.
01:02:52.000 I said you have to be relentless.
01:02:55.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:02:56.000 Like, you have to be hungry.
01:02:59.000 Like, I come here, you have a beautiful studio, the stuff.
01:03:03.000 This is a manifestation of somebody putting their energy in and being relentless.
01:03:08.000 Right?
01:03:09.000 And you have to be comfortable with who you are and stop trying to be someone else.
01:03:15.000 Oscar Wilde had the best quote.
01:03:17.000 He said, Be yourself.
01:03:19.000 Everybody else is already taken.
01:03:22.000 Yeah.
01:03:24.000 You know what I mean?
01:03:25.000 Yeah.
01:03:26.000 You feel me?
01:03:27.000 Oh, yeah.
01:03:28.000 I think for a lot of young people, it's a problem that they don't exactly know who they are.
01:03:34.000 Well, they know what they want, but they're scared to deal with it because they feel like that's not something that other people would be into.
01:03:44.000 It goes back to me making a love song in the middle of hardcore hip hop, right?
01:03:49.000 Uh oh, what will other people say?
01:03:51.000 Was that before or after Mama Said Knock You Out?
01:03:53.000 That was before.
01:03:54.000 Yeah, that was way before.
01:03:55.000 Yeah.
01:03:56.000 That was many years before.
01:03:57.000 Because that's one of the hardest songs.
01:03:58.000 That's hard.
01:03:59.000 That's one of the hardest songs of all time.
01:04:01.000 Don't call it a comeback, baby.
01:04:02.000 Come on, man.
01:04:03.000 That's one of the hardest songs of all time. 0.99
01:04:05.000 But you also mix it up with shit like Going Back to Callie. 0.98
01:04:08.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:04:08.000 Which is. 0.99
01:04:09.000 Rubens.
01:04:09.000 Smooth.
01:04:11.000 Avant-garde blues.
01:04:11.000 Yeah.
01:04:13.000 Yeah.
01:04:13.000 Her bikini, small.
01:04:15.000 Heels, tall. 0.89
01:04:15.000 Heels. 0.89
01:04:17.000 She said she likes the ocean.
01:04:19.000 She showed me the beach.
01:04:23.000 Gave me a peach.
01:04:27.000 Now, my bet is fast.
01:04:28.000 Yeah.
01:04:29.000 That was fun.
01:04:29.000 That was a lot of fun.
01:04:30.000 Oh, my God, man.
01:04:31.000 You got some classics.
01:04:32.000 You got some real clout.
01:04:33.000 Rick Rubin is such a trip.
01:04:35.000 He's one of the most interesting people I've ever met.
01:04:37.000 Yeah, it's so funny.
01:04:38.000 Like my first album, Radio, it says Reduced by Rick Rubin.
01:04:42.000 Does it really?
01:04:43.000 Yes.
01:04:44.000 It's not produced.
01:04:45.000 If you pull up the credits, it says Reduced by Rick Rubin.
01:04:48.000 Wow.
01:04:49.000 Yeah, because he wanted to strip everything away.
01:04:52.000 It's kind of like in life, right?
01:04:53.000 It's like stripping down.
01:04:54.000 I've come to realize that stripping away tends to be a lot more interesting than piling it on.
01:05:02.000 You know what I mean?
01:05:02.000 Right.
01:05:03.000 In a lot of instances.
01:05:04.000 It's about you need context, but it really works.
01:05:07.000 And he just stripped down because prior to that, most of the hip hop that was on record I'm not talking about the streets because the tapes were different, but on record, it was a lot of bands and a lot of musicality.
01:05:20.000 Records were like disco records, they were like 10 minutes long, 12 minutes long, eight minutes, nine minutes long.
01:05:24.000 He reduced it, stripped it down.
01:05:26.000 So I'm rapping over a simple beat.
01:05:31.000 And I'm just, you know what I mean?
01:05:32.000 Yeah.
01:05:33.000 And it just became this thing.
01:05:36.000 You know?
01:05:36.000 How did you get to know him?
01:05:38.000 So, it's so funny.
01:05:41.000 He made a record, he produced a record called It's Yours by T La Rock.
01:05:45.000 And it was on the Streetwise Party Time label, but it was Def Jam Productions.
01:05:51.000 T La Rock is Yours.
01:05:52.000 I bought that record, loved the record, had his number.
01:05:56.000 I still remember his number 212 420 0666.
01:05:58.000 Someone's going to get some fog off.
01:06:04.000 My bad.
01:06:05.000 No disrespect.
01:06:07.000 No disrespect.
01:06:08.000 And then so.
01:06:09.000 So I did that, and I called them every day.
01:06:12.000 I sent a tape in.
01:06:13.000 Me and my man, my mother, let me backtrack a little.
01:06:16.000 So I had sent demo tapes to a lot of labels at that time that I thought might be handling rap, one of them being Sugar Hill, some others.
01:06:27.000 And they all kind of gave me these standard notes we can't use your material at this time, blah, You know, the standard rejection letters.
01:06:34.000 So my mother found one crumbled up on a shelf.
01:06:37.000 I'm dejected.
01:06:38.000 Now I've been trying for two years because I started.
01:06:40.000 Became a fan at eight, started writing at 11 or 12.
01:06:43.000 At 14, I started working on demos.
01:06:45.000 And now here I am, late 15, early 16, working on this demo.
01:06:52.000 I get this rejection.
01:06:53.000 She gets her tax return. 0.96
01:06:55.000 You know, you know, shout out to the people who actually get tax returns.
01:07:01.000 Like, that's pretty, you know, you know, that's a whole nother conversation.
01:07:05.000 I want to digress.
01:07:06.000 But anyway, my mother got her tax return, you know, and that tells you everything.
01:07:09.000 She was happy.
01:07:10.000 So that tells you where we were at, right?
01:07:13.000 She, I tell her, she sees the letter.
01:07:16.000 She's like, Todd, what's wrong?
01:07:17.000 I'm in there in my room.
01:07:18.000 I'm dejected.
01:07:18.000 I'm depressed.
01:07:20.000 I'm like, oh, you know, I'm going to quit.
01:07:24.000 I'm not going to do it no more.
01:07:25.000 I'm going to quit.
01:07:25.000 I'm going to give up.
01:07:26.000 She said, No, Todd, you sound as good as some of the guys on the radio, the people I hear on your tapes.
01:07:32.000 You sound as good as them.
01:07:33.000 You should keep going.
01:07:34.000 I said, Well, I don't have any equipment.
01:07:35.000 I don't have stuff.
01:07:36.000 I can't make a demo.
01:07:38.000 They don't like what I'm doing.
01:07:39.000 She took her tax return and bought me a cog drum machine.
01:07:44.000 She bought me that cog drum machine, and me and my man Frankie, shout out to my man Spin Master Finesse, Frankie.
01:07:51.000 We went, Frankie Forbes.
01:07:53.000 We went out.
01:07:54.000 We went to his house.
01:07:55.000 We were so excited.
01:07:56.000 We didn't even, I couldn't even wait to learn how to program it reading the instructions.
01:08:01.000 We did a pause tape.
01:08:05.000 I played the beat.
01:08:06.000 He did the scratching.
01:08:07.000 I played the beat.
01:08:07.000 He did the scratching.
01:08:08.000 I did that.
01:08:09.000 I rapped over it afterwards.
01:08:12.000 Sent that to Rick Rubin at his dorm.
01:08:14.000 He had a dorm, five university place.
01:08:16.000 He was in the dorms at NYU.
01:08:17.000 Wow.
01:08:19.000 Ad Rock from the Beastie Boys, Adam Harvitz from the Beastie Boys, heard my demo.
01:08:24.000 He played it for Rick.
01:08:25.000 Every day after I sent it.
01:08:25.000 I was calling Rick.
01:08:27.000 Like a day or two later, I'm like, You get the tape yet?
01:08:29.000 Nope.
01:08:30.000 Yo, Rick, you get the tape yet?
01:08:32.000 I would call him.
01:08:32.000 Nope.
01:08:33.000 I would call there like two, three, four times every day.
01:08:36.000 Finally, Ad Rock heard it, played it for Rick.
01:08:39.000 Rick called me up.
01:08:41.000 Well, he called my house. 0.93
01:08:42.000 My grandmother picked up, screwed his name up crazy. 0.56
01:08:46.000 You know, slick Dick Rubin, Dick Dubin.
01:08:49.000 You know, my grandma, I'm like, Oh my God, Rick Rubin.
01:08:52.000 She's like, You know, so I get, I call him.
01:08:54.000 He's like, Yeah, come down to the studio.
01:08:56.000 We're going to go in.
01:08:56.000 Come down tomorrow.
01:08:58.000 I go down, I get on the subway, I'm doing handstands on the subway, I'm so damn happy.
01:09:02.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:09:03.000 I'm like on the subway platform doing handstands in New York, you know what I mean?
01:09:06.000 Like literally, like so happy, I'm like turning myself upside down with my legs against the beams, like about to tear this world up.
01:09:14.000 I get on the train, go down to Five University.
01:09:17.000 Rick comes down, I said, hey, what's up, man?
01:09:21.000 I said, you're Rick?
01:09:22.000 He said, yeah, I said, I thought you were black.
01:09:24.000 Look at him right there.
01:09:30.000 And that guy, he looks at me, he goes, cool. 0.99
01:09:33.000 We go upstairs and I'm looking at the satanic yo, he's so crazy.
01:09:36.000 We go upstairs, we made a demo called Catch This Break.
01:09:41.000 We made that demo, we went across town right after we made it and saw Russell Simmons.
01:09:46.000 Russell's like, eh, same old thing.
01:09:46.000 Played it for Russell.
01:09:50.000 Sounds like this one, that one, that one.
01:09:51.000 We're like, okay.
01:09:53.000 Me and Rick go back in the studio.
01:09:55.000 Ad Rock programs a beat for Rick.
01:09:57.000 Rick produces everything, he gets Jazzy J to do scratching.
01:10:01.000 We do this thing, I need a beat.
01:10:04.000 Russell, they're like, it's so good.
01:10:05.000 They're going to start their own label called Def Jam.
01:10:08.000 They're going to start their own label, not just a production company, but an actual label.
01:10:12.000 And they put that song out, and we ended up going into it.
01:10:15.000 It was independent.
01:10:16.000 We did two singles.
01:10:17.000 That's me and Ad Rock.
01:10:18.000 And then we ended up, you know, Def Jam became the thing that people know today.
01:10:23.000 Wow.
01:10:24.000 Yeah, but it all started back then.
01:10:27.000 How did Ruben get involved?
01:10:29.000 Like, it's such a fascinating character.
01:10:31.000 He's such a, like, he, Sees things.
01:10:34.000 Well, he's a.
01:10:35.000 See, the key, the thing is having a POV and being a fan.
01:10:39.000 You don't have to be classically trained in something to have a POV and to be a fan and to have taste.
01:10:44.000 Because ultimately, whether it's us being here, whether it's us picking a t shirt, a book, a bike, a workout mat, it's about taste.
01:10:55.000 Taste is something that you can't, that's the great delineating factor between a lot of things taste.
01:11:03.000 He has great taste.
01:11:04.000 Yeah.
01:11:05.000 Rick can say, that's cool.
01:11:07.000 And it will be, at least to us, right?
01:11:10.000 I can't say that everything we ever did is cool to everybody, but to us, It was cool.
01:11:16.000 So when we do Rock the Bells, it's like, it's cool.
01:11:16.000 You know what I mean?
01:11:20.000 You know, it's like when we do these songs, I can't live without my radio.
01:11:23.000 Rock the Bells, all this stuff.
01:11:24.000 It just felt cool.
01:11:25.000 Jack the Ripper.
01:11:26.000 It just felt cool.
01:11:27.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:11:28.000 To us.
01:11:30.000 And that's how it is.
01:11:31.000 And that's, to me, that's the thing that makes Rick so fun to work with.
01:11:35.000 It's because he wasn't afraid to tell you, eh, I'm not sure that's it.
01:11:43.000 Like, me and you can't have a real rapport.
01:11:45.000 If you can't tell me your charge of t shirts, I don't know.
01:11:49.000 Whatever, you know.
01:11:50.000 Yeah.
01:11:51.000 We can't, but he will tell you.
01:11:56.000 You know?
01:11:56.000 Like my name, like, you know, like I had a friend, Playboy Mikey D.
01:11:59.000 I had a lot of dudes with like romantic and client names that had them kind of names on it.
01:12:04.000 So I was Ladies Love Cool James.
01:12:07.000 He's like, yo, that's long for the record, man.
01:12:08.000 You know, for the label, that's a lot.
01:12:10.000 LL.
01:12:11.000 Cool.
01:12:11.000 Yeah.
01:12:12.000 Let's do it.
01:12:13.000 You know what I mean?
01:12:14.000 Yeah.
01:12:14.000 Like it's all those little things, you know?
01:12:17.000 And that's the thing about Rick.
01:12:18.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:12:19.000 Taste is a big deal.
01:12:20.000 You know what I mean?
01:12:22.000 Yeah.
01:12:22.000 And the fact that you respect his taste.
01:12:25.000 He's intelligent enough to take it into consideration because there's a lot of people that have opinions.
01:12:31.000 So, you know, it's so funny.
01:12:33.000 You're right about that.
01:12:33.000 You know, people always tell you, like, you hear somebody say, you got to surround yourself with great people.
01:12:37.000 How do you know they're great people?
01:12:39.000 Well, especially when you're 16.
01:12:39.000 Right.
01:12:41.000 Exactly.
01:12:42.000 So, you just have to follow your intuition.
01:12:46.000 That's the biggest tool in your toolbox.
01:12:46.000 Yes.
01:12:48.000 Yes.
01:12:49.000 Your gut is going to be the thing.
01:12:51.000 Right?
01:12:52.000 And I always followed that.
01:12:53.000 Like, there were times I would tell Rick, nah, nah, Rick, that ain't it.
01:12:58.000 I'm like, ah.
01:12:58.000 And he'd be like, you sure?
01:12:59.000 But then other times he'd be like, oh, this is it.
01:13:01.000 And I'm like, yeah, you sure?
01:13:02.000 He's like, yeah.
01:13:03.000 You know?
01:13:04.000 And I would listen.
01:13:06.000 Like, going back to Cali is a classic example. 1.00
01:13:08.000 Initially, I said, I don't think so because I hated the shit. 1.00
01:13:11.000 Really? 1.00
01:13:12.000 Yeah, I was like, I don't think so.
01:13:13.000 He's like, keep that.
01:13:19.000 You didn't like that song?
01:13:21.000 No, because it sounded different.
01:13:23.000 Like at first, when we were, it was the demo version.
01:13:26.000 And I was like, I don't think so.
01:13:27.000 He was like, yo, that sounds crazy.
01:13:28.000 I'm like, yeah.
01:13:29.000 And then I said it.
01:13:30.000 I'm like, oh, that's kind of cool.
01:13:31.000 Like, you know, I don't think so.
01:13:32.000 You know, it became a thing, you know?
01:13:34.000 Right.
01:13:35.000 So you have to, you know, it's just like martial arts.
01:13:38.000 It's like anything adjustments.
01:13:40.000 Right?
01:13:40.000 Yes.
01:13:41.000 Taste adjustments.
01:13:43.000 And doing things that work for you.
01:13:44.000 Right.
01:13:45.000 Your mind, your creativity, your voice, your tenor, you know, your.
01:13:51.000 When you're involved in the editing process of a song, like when it says Reduced by Rick Rubin, Did you and Rick like sit down together and listen to it and try to sort it out?
01:14:01.000 Did you listen to it independently?
01:14:04.000 So at that time, I would more listen to what he was saying, but I would like hum beats in his ear and then they would program them.
01:14:14.000 I would say, make the beat go like this, Rick, or do this.
01:14:18.000 And then he would like, so we really worked together.
01:14:21.000 But ultimately, at that time, he would come back to me with ideas, and most of the time, I just loved him.
01:14:30.000 I just thought they were great.
01:14:32.000 You know, I'm a little kid, I'm 16, I'm on the bus.
01:14:36.000 Wow.
01:14:37.000 I'm going back and forth.
01:14:38.000 I'm getting on the subway.
01:14:39.000 We're making these records.
01:14:41.000 And it's just, it just sounded like the coolest stuff in the world.
01:14:44.000 My man E Love, we're walking down the block.
01:14:46.000 I play Rock the Bells for him.
01:14:48.000 And he's like, yo, I play it on my walkway.
01:14:51.000 He listens.
01:14:52.000 He's like, yo, let me hear that again.
01:14:54.000 I'm like, yeah, I play it for him.
01:14:55.000 He's like, shy.
01:14:56.000 He used to say, shy.
01:14:58.000 He'd be like, yo, let me hear that again.
01:14:58.000 You know?
01:15:00.000 You know, it was just that kind of a thing, you know?
01:15:02.000 Because I, like, so I always went after feelings with lyrics.
01:15:08.000 Like, I know nowadays, especially in the internet age, people are hyper focused on lyricism.
01:15:13.000 And they're hyper focused on the complexity of lyrics and couplets and I am pantameter.
01:15:18.000 And, you know, I always, I was more in the James Brown zone of how does it feel?
01:15:25.000 It's kind of like, it would be like you did the joke make you laugh?
01:15:29.000 Or was it a really smart joke?
01:15:31.000 Like, I didn't really care about it having to be a smart joke.
01:15:35.000 I just wanted them to laugh.
01:15:37.000 I wanted people to feel.
01:15:39.000 What I was saying, I wanted to feel it.
01:15:42.000 So that's why I wrote songs that people can feel, you know, which is very different when you get over analytical.
01:15:49.000 That to me, I don't want to listen to an audiobook when I'm listening to an album.
01:15:54.000 I want to feel something.
01:15:55.000 Right, right.
01:15:56.000 You feel what I'm saying?
01:15:57.000 Yes.
01:15:58.000 But what people like, and so that was kind of my thing.
01:16:02.000 I was never really concerned.
01:16:03.000 Like, it's kind of like Quincy Jones said something really interesting to me.
01:16:07.000 He was one of my mentors.
01:16:08.000 He said he had to forget two thirds of what he knew before he could get a hit.
01:16:14.000 You know?
01:16:16.000 Yeah.
01:16:16.000 It's like overthinking your jump shot.
01:16:19.000 It's like overthinking a punch.
01:16:20.000 It's like overthinking a kick.
01:16:22.000 I watched you one time, you were doing side kicks and back kicks, you know, like roundhouse kicks, and you were talking about how you got to get your hip up in the air.
01:16:30.000 But at a certain point, you forgot it, right?
01:16:32.000 You were no longer conscious of it.
01:16:34.000 You just throw the kick the way you throw the kick.
01:16:37.000 Where when you're writing a song, you can either be one of those people that are overly focused on, I'm raising my hip, or you could just write the song.
01:16:45.000 And it's a fluid kick that just works.
01:16:49.000 Right.
01:16:50.000 Now, just because it's a fluid kick that works, people don't always associate simplicity with genius or hyper creativity because they underestimate how difficult it is to get simple.
01:17:07.000 Right, Like if a guy who, you know, you're a very experienced martial artist, a guy comes in here and he's like, you know, he's telling you, you're in your shoulder and your elbow and your, and another guy comes in, Bruce comes in here, ha ha.
01:17:20.000 He just throws it.
01:17:21.000 You're like, you know what I mean?
01:17:23.000 You can forget.
01:17:24.000 Right.
01:17:25.000 You see what I'm saying?
01:17:26.000 Because it seems so easy.
01:17:26.000 Yeah.
01:17:27.000 Yeah.
01:17:28.000 Simplicity is very underrated.
01:17:30.000 It's highly underrated.
01:17:31.000 Like, we were talking about that the other day in the comedy mothership green room about the song Jesse's Girl.
01:17:37.000 Think about how simple that song is.
01:17:37.000 Jesse's Girl.
01:17:39.000 Where can I find me a woman like that? 1.00
01:17:39.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:17:46.000 Yeah.
01:17:50.000 See, so what happens is, it's kind of like if you got a squeaky floor and I, you know, and a hundred carpenters come in there to change it, and then one guy comes in and puts a nail right there, but he wants to charge you 10 grand or some crazy astronomical number.
01:18:13.000 You're paying me because I know what the spot is.
01:18:15.000 You're not paying me because of how difficult it was to solve the problem.
01:18:18.000 It's identifying the thing.
01:18:20.000 So identifying Jesse's girl, I want to, you know, you understand what I'm trying to say?
01:18:24.000 Uh huh.
01:18:25.000 Yeah.
01:18:26.000 You feel me?
01:18:26.000 Yeah.
01:18:27.000 Cutting to it. 0.99
01:18:28.000 Getting, touching the thing like orgasm, bro. 1.00
01:18:34.000 She don't, yo, she don't care. 1.00
01:18:36.000 Orgasm.
01:18:38.000 Yo, you know what I mean?
01:18:40.000 Oh, he kissed the toe and he went to the knee, nibbled on the knee.
01:18:44.000 Orgasm.
01:18:45.000 You see what I'm saying?
01:18:45.000 What'd you think?
01:18:47.000 Simplicity.
01:18:48.000 You know, respectfully, you know?
01:18:48.000 Yeah.
01:18:51.000 Orgasms are simple.
01:18:52.000 Yeah.
01:18:53.000 Especially in songs, right?
01:18:55.000 Yeah.
01:18:56.000 But so people kind of, I think that that to me has been something that worked for me, just keeping it simple.
01:18:56.000 Yeah.
01:19:04.000 You know, sometimes I get complicated, but for the most part, when I find a feel, when I get a feel, that's what I go with.
01:19:11.000 And I do that in life.
01:19:14.000 That's a great way to live.
01:19:15.000 It's very smart.
01:19:17.000 It's smart, and you have good instincts, and you've had a long series of success trusting your instincts, so you know how to do it.
01:19:25.000 I mean, 1984.
01:19:27.000 1984.
01:19:28.000 That's crazy.
01:19:29.000 What was it like becoming famous at 16?
01:19:33.000 Well, you know, it was like the movie Porkies.
01:19:38.000 Ha Or Project X, if you want to bring it up to newer days.
01:19:46.000 It was, it was, it was that.
01:19:47.000 I never saw Project X. What's that?
01:19:49.000 So Porky's, it was Project X's crazy party and all this stuff happens.
01:19:52.000 But ultimately, man, I just, I went, you know.
01:19:55.000 Went ham.
01:19:56.000 Without a doubt.
01:19:58.000 Ham sandwich.
01:19:59.000 Ham, the pig with the apple in his mouth.
01:20:01.000 Ham sandwich, baby.
01:20:03.000 I loved it.
01:20:03.000 It had to be crazy.
01:20:04.000 I loved every moment because I was living life and enjoying myself.
01:20:09.000 And, you know, you can get what you want, you know, and you can go where you want to go.
01:20:15.000 I never went to a prom.
01:20:17.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:20:18.000 I didn't go to a prom.
01:20:20.000 I didn't do all of those things.
01:20:21.000 I didn't do a lot of the normal things that, you know, a lot of kids get to do.
01:20:26.000 Did you feel like you missed out on that?
01:20:29.000 Hell no.
01:20:33.000 Hell no. 0.75
01:20:38.000 Hell no.
01:20:40.000 Nah, I just, you know, I had girls invite me to prom.
01:20:44.000 Nah, I ain't going to that.
01:20:46.000 You know, I was crazy, man.
01:20:48.000 I was crazy, man.
01:20:49.000 But we had a ball, man.
01:20:50.000 You know, I introduced hip hop in Maine.
01:20:53.000 Yeah, that was a.
01:20:53.000 Really?
01:20:56.000 Like, there's a video of me.
01:20:58.000 We were in a small gymnasium in Maine.
01:21:01.000 This is the first time hip hop was in Maine.
01:21:03.000 And I introduced it.
01:21:04.000 And it was like, might have been, I don't know, 15 kids and 20 parents or something in a room.
01:21:10.000 And I'm explaining to them.
01:21:12.000 So, this is my DJ Cut Creator.
01:21:14.000 He's going to do this.
01:21:14.000 That's it right there.
01:21:15.000 We're literally introducing.
01:21:18.000 Hip hop in Maine.
01:21:19.000 Like, I'm literally, it had never been there before.
01:21:22.000 Look, they're sitting on the floor.
01:21:24.000 Wow.
01:21:24.000 Think about that.
01:21:25.000 Think about, look, and my man Cut Creator is cutting.
01:21:28.000 That's the people introducing me.
01:21:29.000 Cuts Cutting, and we're explaining to them how it's gonna work.
01:21:33.000 And I'm telling them, this is hip hop.
01:21:34.000 This is my DJ.
01:21:36.000 This is how this works.
01:21:37.000 This is how, like, I literally had to do tutorials to teach people how to interact with hip hop.
01:21:43.000 That's crazy.
01:21:44.000 Yeah, you see?
01:21:45.000 And I'm explaining to them what we do.
01:21:48.000 That's my DJ Cut Creator, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:21:50.000 You know what I mean?
01:21:51.000 Right.
01:21:52.000 So it was that kind of a vibe.
01:21:54.000 That's crazy.
01:21:56.000 So, like, that's kind of the world I lived in.
01:21:58.000 Like, you know.
01:21:59.000 That's like a historical moment.
01:22:00.000 Yeah.
01:22:01.000 When you're looking at a cultural historical moment, you introduced it to.
01:22:05.000 Like, if people who have never been to Maine, like in 1985, I used to do stand up in Maine.
01:22:09.000 Yeah.
01:22:10.000 Maine was strange.
01:22:11.000 It was different, right?
01:22:12.000 Small towns, isolated people who were used to being 30 below zero for five months out of the year. 1.00
01:22:19.000 They were hard ass fucking people, a lot of hard drinking. 1.00
01:22:23.000 Geese running around, you know, geese. 1.00
01:22:25.000 Moose and shit. 0.99
01:22:26.000 Moose, you know. 1.00
01:22:27.000 It's an odd place, man.
01:22:28.000 Yeah.
01:22:29.000 Maine's an odd place.
01:22:30.000 And I went there at that time and introduced it.
01:22:33.000 Wow.
01:22:34.000 You know, like those kinds of things, you know?
01:22:45.000 Wow.
01:22:47.000 Or talk to about it.
01:22:53.000 Well, there was no industry.
01:23:01.000 Right.
01:23:09.000 So you don't have any managers that really understood it.
01:23:13.000 There was Russell, but you don't have managers.
01:23:16.000 You don't have, like, you had Bill Adler, who was a publicist, but there was no industry.
01:23:20.000 Right.
01:23:20.000 So there's no, you understand what I'm saying?
01:23:22.000 Yes.
01:23:22.000 Yeah.
01:23:22.000 There's no platform.
01:23:24.000 There's no, you can't go get a strategic partner.
01:23:27.000 We're not doing branding.
01:23:28.000 Right.
01:23:29.000 You know what I mean?
01:23:29.000 Yeah.
01:23:30.000 It was all about, like, you know, grassroots.
01:23:35.000 This is something we love.
01:23:36.000 This is something we believe in.
01:23:39.000 You know, take it or leave it, basically.
01:23:41.000 Like, you know.
01:23:42.000 But there's just so few times in history where an art form emerges like that.
01:23:46.000 Yeah, I mean, it's a blessing, too.
01:23:48.000 It's a luck and blessing.
01:23:49.000 A huge blessing.
01:23:50.000 Yeah, it's a blessing.
01:23:52.000 Obviously, you were very talented, and obviously, you worked very hard, but it's also like, what an incredibly fortuitous moment to be there at that time when a new art form is emerging that is going to become the dominant art form.
01:24:05.000 It's like one of the most dominant things in pop culture ever is hip hop music.
01:24:12.000 And you know what the beauty of it is?
01:24:14.000 You know, people always say, Did you ever know it was going to get this big?
01:24:16.000 It's like, it was already that big to me in my mind.
01:24:20.000 It was the biggest thing in the world to me.
01:24:22.000 I didn't say it was the biggest thing out in the world.
01:24:24.000 Right.
01:24:25.000 But in my mind, it was the most popular thing and the biggest thing.
01:24:29.000 So when I'm playing the vinyl and I'm staring at the record, or if I'm playing a tape and I'm listening to a tape and I'm like, I'm like imagining myself inside that, like it was all consuming.
01:24:43.000 But there's a little, there's a jewel in that.
01:24:45.000 We have to be.
01:24:46.000 Completely consumed by what it is that we're embarking on, right?
01:24:51.000 Yes, we have to be completely consumed by it.
01:24:53.000 Like, we got it's got to yo, you gotta want it in every fiber of your being, man.
01:24:58.000 You gotta want it with every fiber of your being.
01:25:01.000 You can't take no for an answer, not even from yourself, right?
01:25:06.000 Yeah, yeah, it's important to hear, man.
01:25:10.000 People need to hear this, especially young people.
01:25:12.000 It's like so important to hear someone who's been through it all and maintains that focus and what that's all about to you, man.
01:25:20.000 It's a beautiful thing.
01:25:21.000 But I'll tell you, you know, Joe, I know the young people, yes, but all people.
01:25:24.000 Because dreams don't have deadlines.
01:25:26.000 Because a lot of people, they get to a certain age and they give up.
01:25:28.000 Oh, I'm 50.
01:25:30.000 Oh, I'm 46.
01:25:31.000 I can't do it anymore.
01:25:32.000 No, no, yes, you can.
01:25:33.000 Stop.
01:25:35.000 Stop.
01:25:36.000 Colonel Sanders was, how old when he started Kentucky Fried Chicken?
01:25:40.000 Like 65?
01:25:40.000 He really was.
01:25:41.000 Was he really?
01:25:42.000 Yes.
01:25:43.000 Google it.
01:25:44.000 Cornelius Vanderbilt was like 80 in his 80s, went to the railroads after the steam, the ships.
01:25:51.000 I mean, there are countless.
01:25:53.000 Examples of people that kept Sam Jackson.
01:25:57.000 You know, like there are countless examples of people that kept George Foreman.
01:26:00.000 Let's put it back on the sporting world.
01:26:02.000 Came back and did his thing.
01:26:03.000 Like you can do it.
01:26:05.000 There's no limitation.
01:26:07.000 Right.
01:26:08.000 The limitation is in your mind.
01:26:10.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:26:11.000 That's certainly true.
01:26:12.000 You're still alive.
01:26:13.000 This idea that you're at a chapter in your life where no more growth is going to happen is crazy.
01:26:17.000 It's crazy, man.
01:26:18.000 Don't do that to yourself.
01:26:19.000 Why would you do that to yourself?
01:26:20.000 Well, people like to do that for some reason.
01:26:22.000 They like to categorize their life into certain stages as if it's not just constant.
01:26:27.000 It's not just like, oh, I'm past that stage.
01:26:30.000 Oh, I can't do that anymore.
01:26:31.000 Because you don't have to compete.
01:26:31.000 Know why?
01:26:31.000 Why?
01:26:34.000 It's easy.
01:26:36.000 As soon as I say to you, oh, well, you know, I no longer have to try.
01:26:41.000 I no longer have to get in the arena.
01:26:43.000 You know that poem, The Man in the Arena?
01:26:44.000 Yes.
01:26:45.000 Like, there's a certain point when you just want to step out of the arena.
01:26:50.000 Like, you know, because it's not really about competition in life, it's about being creative, right?
01:26:54.000 Right.
01:26:55.000 You could teach your kids to compete, that's iffy.
01:26:57.000 You teach them to create, they can have a life.
01:27:00.000 Yeah.
01:27:00.000 Right?
01:27:01.000 Not that we don't want to compete.
01:27:02.000 I love sports.
01:27:03.000 You know, we love sports, combat sports.
01:27:05.000 Basketball, football, like we love all the stuff, but creativity is the thing that's going to make you the greatest competitor.
01:27:13.000 Because whether you're in the ring, you're in the dojo, you're in the arena, it's the creativity, Jordan's creativity.
01:27:20.000 You know what I mean?
01:27:21.000 It's the creativity on the court, Kyrie's creativity.
01:27:24.000 Those are the things that take you to the next level.
01:27:26.000 So I would just encourage all people, not just the youngsters, but like everybody to keep going.
01:27:34.000 And when you look in the mirror, what do you see?
01:27:36.000 You know the best version of yourself.
01:27:38.000 I looked in the mirror one time, I took my shirt off, I looked in the mirror, I turned to the side, it looked like somebody took a pebble and went, you know what I mean?
01:27:44.000 Like they just threw it in a pond.
01:27:46.000 I was like, no, we can't do that.
01:27:49.000 I said, we ain't doing that.
01:27:50.000 Oh, we're not doing that.
01:27:52.000 You know what I mean?
01:27:53.000 Yeah.
01:27:53.000 That's a decision.
01:27:54.000 I'm not saying it's easy.
01:27:56.000 Don't hit me with the, yo, but it's not easy.
01:27:58.000 I didn't say it was.
01:28:00.000 But you know who you are.
01:28:02.000 Well, that's the reason why most people don't do it, it's because it's not easy.
01:28:05.000 It doesn't mean you can't do it.
01:28:07.000 You just have to figure out how to persevere.
01:28:10.000 And a lot of people never learn that.
01:28:12.000 And then they get scared.
01:28:14.000 They get scared of failure.
01:28:15.000 That's a big one.
01:28:17.000 Fear of failures holds people back from almost everything.
01:28:20.000 So, you're a big fan of the whole concept of many worlds and multiverse and all that, right?
01:28:25.000 Which I love.
01:28:25.000 I love all that kind of stuff too.
01:28:26.000 I'm crazy.
01:28:27.000 So, it's like, well, you know, when you think about the multiverse and you think about, or many worlds and you think about, if you look at your life as a series of choices, what would your life be like if you made different choices?
01:28:39.000 Oh, yeah.
01:28:40.000 Right?
01:28:40.000 Okay, so let's game it out.
01:28:43.000 Okay, so if you decided not to give up, what would your life be like in five years?
01:28:51.000 Want to find out?
01:28:52.000 Right.
01:28:54.000 You know what I mean?
01:28:54.000 Everybody's red pill, blue pill, this and that.
01:28:56.000 You want to find out?
01:28:59.000 Take the personal red pill.
01:29:01.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:29:02.000 The personal one.
01:29:03.000 And if you get to five years and you still haven't made it, don't give up because it might be five more.
01:29:08.000 And what if you just went through five more and got there?
01:29:11.000 Or what if five more passed you and you did nothing and you stayed in the exact same place in life?
01:29:16.000 Even in that scenario, if you didn't accomplish it, you would still be better for it.
01:29:20.000 Yes, 100%.
01:29:21.000 Because your soul would evolve.
01:29:22.000 Yeah, your character would grow.
01:29:24.000 You become a better person.
01:29:25.000 Yeah, with difficult things, you become a better person.
01:29:28.000 Right?
01:29:28.000 Yeah.
01:29:29.000 That was one of the things my martial arts instructor said to me when I was a kid.
01:29:32.000 He said, Martial arts are a vehicle for developing your human potential.
01:29:36.000 100%.
01:29:37.000 Yeah.
01:29:38.000 Exactly.
01:29:38.000 And we want to maximize our potential.
01:29:40.000 Yeah.
01:29:41.000 For me, you know, as a youngster, when you just entered martial arts at a very low level, it was about, it just taught me humility and respect.
01:29:50.000 Taught me not to be tough.
01:29:51.000 Taught me manners.
01:29:52.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:29:53.000 You know, I'm looking at my sensei or even a senpai, and I'm like, you know, his assistant, and I'm like, you know, this guy looks like, you know, you could steal a sandwich and kick him in the butt and give him a wedgie, and he'll kick your forehead off of your skull. 1.00
01:30:09.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00
01:30:10.000 Yeah.
01:30:11.000 You learn respect.
01:30:12.000 Yeah.
01:30:13.000 Well, it's just good for people, young people in particular, to be humbled and to have structure and to do something that's difficult, and also the progression of learning.
01:30:22.000 As you go along, oh, I'm much better than I used to be.
01:30:25.000 Oh, now I have a blue belt.
01:30:26.000 Oh, now I have a green belt.
01:30:27.000 Whatever it is.
01:30:28.000 Like this progression is important because it like marks these milestones and it cements in your mind that hard work and focus and all these things.
01:30:36.000 I'm glad you said that.
01:30:37.000 So I love the idea that originally, like with belts in martial arts, the reason why black belts became black belts was because of use, heavy usage.
01:30:46.000 In other words, I start off with a white belt, I never washed it because I don't want to wash my skill away.
01:30:51.000 And I've been working at this art form so long that ultimately it's black from dirt and soot and hard work. 0.52
01:30:58.000 And grime and grit. 0.99
01:31:00.000 That's such an interesting concept when you think about it because you can have a black belt in life and not know it.
01:31:07.000 Yeah.
01:31:07.000 You can have a black belt in certain areas of your life and not even know it.
01:31:13.000 Like a lot of people in this world are black belts in certain things and they don't even recognize it because they're not self aware. 0.87
01:31:22.000 You know what I mean? 1.00
01:31:22.000 Mm hmm. 1.00
01:31:24.000 So that to me, like the idea of going a white belt. 0.97
01:31:24.000 You feel me? 0.97
01:31:24.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:31:30.000 And that progression and finding out, I forget the book I was reading.
01:31:34.000 He talked about it.
01:31:35.000 It's one of the Gracie books.
01:31:37.000 Gracie, it's a newer one.
01:31:39.000 And he was talking about this.
01:31:40.000 Is it Hickson?
01:31:41.000 Hickson?
01:31:42.000 No, I don't want to say the wrong name because a lot of them.
01:31:46.000 I don't want to say the wrong name and be disrespectful.
01:31:48.000 Hickson's the one who writes the book.
01:31:49.000 It's Hickson with the.
01:31:50.000 The Principles of Jiu Jitsu?
01:31:52.000 It's the Principles of 32 Principles of Jiu Jitsu.
01:31:55.000 That's the one.
01:31:55.000 I don't know about that.
01:31:57.000 And he talked about this progression of going from white belt to black belt and how it was traditionally.
01:32:04.000 It was because, you know, people were like, what is it?
01:32:09.000 Yeah, there you go.
01:32:10.000 Yeah, and Jocko did the.
01:32:12.000 Henner Gracie.
01:32:12.000 Oh, it's Henner.
01:32:13.000 Oh, yeah.
01:32:14.000 And Jocko did the forward.
01:32:15.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:32:15.000 You know what's interesting about that, too?
01:32:17.000 If you get an old black belt, they turn white again. 1.00
01:32:20.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
01:32:21.000 I saw Jocko.
01:32:22.000 I think Jocko had one like that, right?
01:32:23.000 He has one like that, right?
01:32:24.000 They get beat up, they get torn apart, and as they wear out, the black goes away, and you almost have like a white belt. 0.65
01:32:32.000 And if you look at your instructor, your instructor, the guy that's with Donahue, go to his picture again. 0.67
01:32:37.000 Glick, Brian Glick.
01:32:38.000 If you could find him, you'll see his belt, and his belt is so worn out because he's been a black belt for a long time that there's frayed white all over it.
01:32:48.000 Which is crazy. 0.93
01:32:49.000 Yeah, and guys who have like, you know, fifth and sixth degree black belts and been training for 30 years, their belts are all fucked up to the point where it's almost white. 0.98
01:32:57.000 That's crazy. 0.98
01:32:57.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:32:58.000 And that's like Joseph Campbell.
01:32:59.000 It's like the hero's journey, right?
01:33:00.000 Yeah.
01:33:01.000 Because you go all the way back and return.
01:33:04.000 Yeah.
01:33:04.000 Look at that.
01:33:04.000 Look at that.
01:33:05.000 See how his belt's all frayed?
01:33:06.000 So that's just the beginning stages.
01:33:06.000 Yeah.
01:33:08.000 Yeah.
01:33:08.000 Like, there's guys that have 10 year older, 15, 20 year older belts than that where they're.
01:33:13.000 Completely black.
01:33:14.000 Like, you look at Donahue's belt.
01:33:15.000 Donahue has a nice new one on.
01:33:16.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:33:16.000 But his is all fucked up because he's got the original black belt that he probably got when he first got his black belt. 0.98
01:33:22.000 And he's like Donahue's longest running student, right? 0.99
01:33:22.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:33:25.000 I believe he's one of them.
01:33:25.000 Oh, is he really?
01:33:26.000 Oh, wow.
01:33:27.000 And he's been around for a long time.
01:33:27.000 Yeah, Brian is.
01:33:28.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:33:29.000 He's a good teacher, too.
01:33:29.000 Brian is.
01:33:30.000 And see if you can find some old Brazilian jiu jitsu black belts.
01:33:34.000 They get old.
01:33:35.000 And then the thing about Brazilian jiu jitsu black belts is they get to a certain level where they become coral belts where they give them a red and black belt.
01:33:42.000 I know.
01:33:42.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:33:43.000 Yeah.
01:33:43.000 I heard about that.
01:33:44.000 Yeah.
01:33:44.000 Like my instructor, Jean-Jacques Machado, he got his coral belt.
01:33:44.000 Yeah.
01:33:48.000 Because of what you've done for the art form.
01:33:50.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:33:51.000 All fucked up and beat up to the point where they're basically almost white. 1.00
01:33:55.000 Exactly. 1.00
01:33:55.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:33:56.000 Yeah.
01:33:56.000 Yeah.
01:33:57.000 And you get the coral belts because you uphold the art form itself, right, at that point and the craft and your contribution to the craft, right?
01:34:04.000 Yes.
01:34:04.000 Yes.
01:34:05.000 Yeah.
01:34:05.000 Yeah.
01:34:06.000 It's, it's, it's, uh, yo, I love, you know, this is life.
01:34:10.000 This is the language of life right here.
01:34:11.000 Yes.
01:34:12.000 You know, people, you know, people get in, think about these things trying to be tough guys.
01:34:16.000 It's about the language of life.
01:34:16.000 It's not.
01:34:18.000 Yes.
01:34:19.000 You know what I mean?
01:34:20.000 This is because you're battling yourself.
01:34:22.000 Like, you know, when you could step in the studio as a mature older guy and walk in there with a white belt and get, you know, let a purple belt slap you around or let a, you know what I'm saying? 0.84
01:34:34.000 Like, these are things like, but it's good for you. 0.76
01:34:37.000 Right?
01:34:38.000 And you as a known person, that's a different thing.
01:34:40.000 Like, someone gets to choke out LL Cool J, that's very different.
01:34:44.000 It's very different than, you know, Mike Jones from down the street.
01:34:49.000 Yeah, it's different, man.
01:34:50.000 It's different.
01:34:51.000 Like, you know, choking me out and all that.
01:34:54.000 It works on famous rappers.
01:34:56.000 Yo, he's like, yo, yo, rap the song. 1.00
01:34:59.000 Rap the fucking song. 1.00
01:35:00.000 Mama said, knock you out. 1.00
01:35:02.000 Mama said, rap the fucking, rap it. 1.00
01:35:05.000 Yo, rap it is so funny, B. Nah, nah, rap that shit. 1.00
01:35:08.000 Say it. 1.00
01:35:09.000 I always like that song.
01:35:11.000 Oh, no.
01:35:11.000 Say it.
01:35:12.000 Do you remember when you got your first tap?
01:35:13.000 When you first tapped somebody?
01:35:14.000 No, I haven't gotten it yet.
01:35:15.000 You haven't gotten a sale tap yet?
01:35:17.000 Wow.
01:35:18.000 So you're really fresh.
01:35:18.000 No.
01:35:19.000 Really learning.
01:35:19.000 I'm fresh.
01:35:20.000 I'm brand new in the game.
01:35:20.000 I'm brand new.
01:35:21.000 You can tap out Jamie.
01:35:22.000 Well, I'll show you.
01:35:23.000 No, I don't mess around if Jamie will have me.
01:35:26.000 Jamie.
01:35:28.000 Jamie, have your man in an Americana or something nasty.
01:35:32.000 Nah.
01:35:33.000 That's awesome, though.
01:35:35.000 I'm really happy that you're doing that.
01:35:36.000 Yeah, just starting with Glick.
01:35:38.000 But I just think life in general, Joe, this is the language of success, man.
01:35:44.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:35:45.000 The language of success, bro.
01:35:47.000 Like, let's win.
01:35:48.000 I think it's always good to do things from the very beginning, too, to start off as a beginner again, because you have a beginner's mindset when you first learn something.
01:35:56.000 I think that excitement of a new thing where you're absorbed in it.
01:36:00.000 And trying to figure it out, and you really don't know.
01:36:02.000 And then you see people who are good at it, like, oh, there's a whole new avenue for my interests and a whole new avenue for thinking, for creativity.
01:36:10.000 Absolutely.
01:36:11.000 Absolutely.
01:36:11.000 Yeah.
01:36:12.000 I'll tell you something a dope technique that I think is cool, and you may do this.
01:36:12.000 You know what else is dope?
01:36:17.000 I'll read one book for three, four years.
01:36:20.000 Really?
01:36:21.000 Just go back and read it again?
01:36:21.000 Yeah.
01:36:23.000 Like, my thing is this if you read a book, you became a black belt because you know all the moves.
01:36:28.000 And then you get the degrees because you, I mean, it's an endless ocean of, Information, we know that, but you get it because you. 0.53
01:36:35.000 So, why not become a black belt in the book?
01:36:39.000 How are you going to take one lesson and now you know jiu jitsu, or you're going to take one, you know, Shotokan because you, you know, you went for, you know, three lessons, and or you learned a kata.
01:36:48.000 Let's say you memorized three katas, now you're done.
01:36:52.000 Like, no, you have to.
01:36:53.000 So, to read a book for three or four years, like, you probably, what's your favorite book?
01:36:59.000 Boy, I don't know if I have a favorite book.
01:37:02.000 One of the most impactful books.
01:37:04.000 For me, it was a book that I read when I was very young called The Book of Five Rings.
01:37:08.000 Oh, yeah, Miyamoto Masashi.
01:37:09.000 Yeah.
01:37:10.000 So, let's say you read Miyamoto Masashi.
01:37:14.000 You've read that a lot of times, right?
01:37:15.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:37:16.000 I've read that.
01:37:17.000 I don't even know how many times.
01:37:19.000 I read it a lot when I was young, man.
01:37:20.000 But see what you just said?
01:37:22.000 Now, imagine consciously doing that.
01:37:24.000 You did it.
01:37:25.000 Yeah.
01:37:27.000 Because Masashi, yo, Book of Five Rings is a really interesting book.
01:37:30.000 Well, I read a lot of stuff like that, but that was the first one I read from a guy who killed people with swords.
01:37:35.000 Yeah, he was unbelievable.
01:37:36.000 Yeah, there were a lot of people that had really good books on philosophy.
01:37:39.000 Like who?
01:37:40.000 Managing the mind.
01:37:41.000 Well, believe it or not, a lot of Anthony Robbins stuff.
01:37:44.000 I love Tony Robbins.
01:37:44.000 I loved Tony Robbins early in the day.
01:37:46.000 Yeah, that was like in the 90s.
01:37:48.000 I was walking in the seagulls and I saw the view of this.
01:37:51.000 I love Anthony Robbins.
01:37:52.000 Very inspirational stuff.
01:37:54.000 And also, really good at time management, good at mind management, managing your expectations and your understanding of things.
01:37:54.000 Absolutely.
01:38:03.000 There's a lot of good psychology in those books.
01:38:07.000 But the thing about the Musashi book to me that was so impactful was that this guy was so unusual, even for his time. 0.99
01:38:15.000 Killed 60 men or 61 men in combat, one on one, with fucking swords. 0.99
01:38:22.000 You know, like his mind had to be completely dialed in. 0.99
01:38:26.000 And his idea was that you had to have a complete balance and that you had to have a balance of art and creativity and poetry as well as being ruthless and vicious with a sword.
01:38:38.000 You had to have full balance.
01:38:40.000 See, it's harmony.
01:38:41.000 It's not even balance, it's harmony.
01:38:41.000 Yeah.
01:38:43.000 Because balance, something's out of harmony.
01:38:43.000 Yeah.
01:38:45.000 Yeah.
01:38:46.000 Because if this would be this much of your life, this can be this much of your life.
01:38:48.000 Yeah.
01:38:48.000 So it's having harmony.
01:38:50.000 And that's what he talked about in the book.
01:38:51.000 Yeah.
01:38:52.000 And I love the little things he talks about, like, you know, being sticky.
01:38:55.000 You know, when he talks about sticky and being sticky on your opponent, little things he talks about in there.
01:39:01.000 Putting, making sure that, you know, the sun is to your back, the threshold, putting them in the threshold, making sure you, you know, when you're in the room, certain corners, like all of that matters in life, right?
01:39:11.000 Yeah.
01:39:11.000 Miyamoto Masashi is amazing.
01:39:13.000 Yeah, I know.
01:39:14.000 It's amazing stuff.
01:39:15.000 And it's, you know, it's really old.
01:39:17.000 It's like from the 1400s.
01:39:18.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:39:20.000 And he died in a cave.
01:39:21.000 Yeah.
01:39:22.000 He wrote it and then he went up in the cave.
01:39:24.000 Yeah.
01:39:24.000 Yeah.
01:39:25.000 I love Miyamoto Masashi.
01:39:26.000 Absolutely. 1.00
01:39:27.000 It's such a valuable book because you want to think about samurais as being brutes, you want to think of them as being vicious killers.
01:39:34.000 And you realize, like, in order to be the very best at it, you had to be a completely balanced person.
01:39:40.000 Like, he did calligraphy and poetry.
01:39:42.000 Absolutely.
01:39:42.000 He was.
01:39:43.000 He had the love song and he had Mama Said Not to You.
01:39:46.000 There you go.
01:39:47.000 There you go.
01:39:47.000 He had the love song.
01:39:48.000 Now you're seeing where I'm going.
01:39:49.000 Now you see where I'm going.
01:39:51.000 Yes.
01:39:51.000 Now you see what I'm saying.
01:39:53.000 Yeah.
01:39:54.000 Now you see what.
01:39:55.000 That's what I'm talking about.
01:39:56.000 He knew when to let the guy just float off, right?
01:39:59.000 He knew when to let the guy float off.
01:40:01.000 The guy made him wait.
01:40:02.000 He knows when it's disrespectful, making the guy.
01:40:05.000 Like all of those little things that he did.
01:40:07.000 He'd make dudes wait for hours.
01:40:08.000 Yeah, all of that. 1.00
01:40:09.000 And then you think you're going to get killed and you have to sit there for three hours when when is this motherfucker showing up? 1.00
01:40:13.000 And then you're like, damn, I should have ate something. 1.00
01:40:15.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:40:16.000 You start thinking.
01:40:17.000 I mean, everything he talked about, the way you hold the sword, the positioning of the sword, the being able to use both swords, the long one versus the short one.
01:40:17.000 Yeah.
01:40:28.000 Yeah.
01:40:29.000 Right?
01:40:30.000 Yeah.
01:40:31.000 All of that is life.
01:40:32.000 Yeah.
01:40:33.000 Yeah.
01:40:33.000 Yeah.
01:40:34.000 The mastery, the mastery of the way.
01:40:36.000 And that once you see the way, you can see it in all things.
01:40:39.000 That's.
01:40:40.000 Yeah.
01:40:41.000 Exactly.
01:40:41.000 And that's what I'm trying to encourage with when I say these things is like, people, mastery is really, really important.
01:40:49.000 Mastery.
01:40:51.000 Starting with mastery of yourself, mastery of your vision, meaning you know what you want, mastery of the steps that you take, meaning that you will take the steps that you deem appropriate but also make adjustments along the way.
01:41:03.000 Yeah.
01:41:04.000 That's the thing.
01:41:04.000 Right?
01:41:04.000 Yeah.
01:41:05.000 That's where we want to go, right?
01:41:07.000 Right.
01:41:08.000 That's what we're trying to do.
01:41:09.000 That's what, they ain't even trying.
01:41:10.000 That's what we're doing.
01:41:12.000 That's what we're doing.
01:41:13.000 Now we, you feel me?
01:41:15.000 Yeah.
01:41:15.000 Like, that's the thing.
01:41:17.000 Like, I think people just need to get back into that.
01:41:21.000 You know, let's lean into that a little more.
01:41:25.000 Well, certainly, people that inspire you do that.
01:41:28.000 And that's what we all take inspiration from other people that are getting after it.
01:41:33.000 Like, there's something about when someone is doing that and chasing mastery.
01:41:38.000 There's something very inspiring about that.
01:41:39.000 That's right.
01:41:40.000 Because, like, if you think about it, it's like mastery breeds a quiet.
01:41:50.000 First of all, mastery is transferable, meaning.
01:41:53.000 The mindset, it's kind of what Miyamoto said, like, which is the idea of once you see the way in all things.
01:42:00.000 So, once you know what success looks like and what it takes, you can apply that to other missions.
01:42:07.000 Yeah.
01:42:07.000 You see what I'm saying?
01:42:08.000 Yeah.
01:42:09.000 Like, because you understand the stages.
01:42:12.000 Yeah.
01:42:12.000 Right?
01:42:14.000 Yes.
01:42:15.000 You know what I mean?
01:42:15.000 Yeah.
01:42:16.000 Like, that's the thing.
01:42:17.000 Yeah.
01:42:18.000 And I think that's the thing that we have to get that mastery, that mindset, that mindset of being a master, that mindset of being the best that you can be, that mindset of going to another level, that mindset of winning.
01:42:31.000 And winning.
01:42:33.000 In a way that benefits your team.
01:42:38.000 Right?
01:42:38.000 It doesn't mean, like, because we're not, it's not about being non confrontational.
01:42:44.000 It's just because you need boundaries, but it's about protecting those boundaries the right way.
01:42:51.000 You feel me?
01:42:52.000 Sort of.
01:42:53.000 Okay, so basically what I'm saying is there's a difference between being nice and being kind.
01:43:00.000 Right.
01:43:01.000 Being nice is I want everybody to like me. 0.98
01:43:04.000 So I'm gonna bullshit. 0.98
01:43:06.000 Right. 0.99
01:43:07.000 Kind is, yeah, I'm going to be kind, but if you step all over my shoe with your muddy boot, I'm not going to be okay with it.
01:43:16.000 Because I'm trying to be nice.
01:43:18.000 And you're maybe in a higher position.
01:43:20.000 Yo, you're on my foot.
01:43:22.000 You don't get a pass for that. 0.88
01:43:24.000 Right.
01:43:25.000 You feel me?
01:43:26.000 Yes.
01:43:26.000 Because you're here or you're this or you're that.
01:43:29.000 Right, right.
01:43:30.000 What, celebrity or CEO or whatever.
01:43:33.000 You feel me?
01:43:34.000 Yeah.
01:43:34.000 You don't get a pass.
01:43:35.000 So that's the thing.
01:43:37.000 Like that part.
01:43:38.000 There's a different.
01:43:39.000 You have to have balance in that too.
01:43:41.000 Harmony.
01:43:41.000 Yeah.
01:43:42.000 I say harmony, you say balance, but I say harmony.
01:43:44.000 Harmony is a better word.
01:43:45.000 I say harmony because things fit in their place like an orchestra.
01:43:48.000 Yeah.
01:43:48.000 Orchestras are not balanced, but there's harmony.
01:43:51.000 Right, right.
01:43:52.000 You know, certain instruments lead.
01:43:54.000 Right.
01:43:55.000 Yeah.
01:43:55.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:43:57.000 You know? 1.00
01:43:58.000 You should write a book on this shit too. 1.00
01:44:03.000 I just read all these other shit. 1.00
01:44:05.000 But it's for real, because it's like what people want to hear about this kind of stuff, they want to hear about. 0.98
01:44:10.000 It from someone who has been successful.
01:44:13.000 Someone who is like, this is a real, you've actually had to manage these thoughts and get through it, and you have.
01:44:20.000 And now you're speaking from a place of experience.
01:44:22.000 There's no question.
01:44:22.000 You know, it's not like theory.
01:44:24.000 No, it is.
01:44:25.000 No, it's practical.
01:44:26.000 It's practical.
01:44:26.000 It's like, it's a case, it's real practical.
01:44:29.000 Yeah.
01:44:29.000 That's why it's important to hear it from a guy like you, because especially, I mean, I say, especially for young people, let me say, let me take that out for aspiring people.
01:44:38.000 Ah, there you go.
01:44:39.000 That's, yeah.
01:44:40.000 Aspiring people, exactly.
01:44:41.000 It's not even how long you've been alive.
01:44:43.000 It's like, what is your mindset right now?
01:44:45.000 There you go.
01:44:46.000 Most young people are aspiring because they feel like they have their whole life in front of them.
01:44:50.000 And they've been told, hey, you live in America.
01:44:53.000 You could be anything in America.
01:44:55.000 You can make it here.
01:44:55.000 You can go from the bottom to the top.
01:44:58.000 This is the place.
01:44:59.000 And so they are initially aspirational.
01:45:03.000 And then a lot of times people get beaten down by life and circumstances and poor choices.
01:45:08.000 Well, I think education, your choices is big.
01:45:10.000 Education.
01:45:12.000 I think the root of the Latin word is educo.
01:45:14.000 I might not be pronouncing it right.
01:45:16.000 Could you look that up?
01:45:17.000 Education, but it means to bring out.
01:45:20.000 So, education is about bringing out what's already there.
01:45:23.000 Like a good teacher, you know, will bring out of you, even a good martial arts instructor will bring out what's inside of you, that inner champion, that thing that's already in you.
01:45:33.000 They bring it out.
01:45:34.000 That's what education is about.
01:45:35.000 Right.
01:45:36.000 So, like the first thing that popped in my head when you said aspiring in America, I'm thinking about all the people from all over the world who come to America.
01:45:36.000 Right.
01:45:43.000 So, they were already that before they came.
01:45:45.000 Right.
01:45:46.000 People in general want to be better.
01:45:50.000 Some people.
01:45:51.000 A lot of people are willing to take the risk to be better.
01:45:55.000 You know what I mean?
01:45:55.000 I think everybody wants to be better, but not everybody's willing to take the risk.
01:45:59.000 Yeah.
01:46:00.000 That's even better still.
01:46:00.000 I don't think there's a lot of people out there in the world that say, I want to be better.
01:46:04.000 Yeah.
01:46:05.000 Would like to be better.
01:46:06.000 Yeah.
01:46:06.000 Yeah.
01:46:07.000 Would like to have had the mindset to pursue being better.
01:46:09.000 But there's very few people that, like, I don't want to be better at anything.
01:46:13.000 I'd rather be mediocre and, you know, uninteresting forever.
01:46:17.000 Most people don't want that.
01:46:17.000 Yes.
01:46:19.000 Eat cereal.
01:46:20.000 It's just like they lower their expectations so that they also lower the impact of failure.
01:46:20.000 Yeah.
01:46:25.000 100%.
01:46:26.000 That's all it is.
01:46:27.000 100%.
01:46:28.000 It's unfortunate. 1.00
01:46:28.000 It sucks. 1.00
01:46:29.000 And sometimes people start off that way and then they eventually realize the folly of their ways. 0.99
01:46:33.000 Yeah.
01:46:33.000 And then they evolve and grow.
01:46:35.000 And some people it takes longer, which is why aspirational is better than young.
01:46:39.000 Like, say, 100%.
01:46:40.000 Because there's some people, like, they get on the wrong path and then they don't figure it out until they're 40.
01:46:45.000 Like, Stephen Pressfield, brilliant author.
01:46:47.000 Yeah, I know who he is.
01:46:48.000 You know who he is?
01:46:49.000 He wrote this book called The War of Art.
01:46:50.000 Have you read it?
01:46:51.000 Of course.
01:46:51.000 Okay.
01:46:52.000 Absolutely.
01:46:52.000 The book's fantastic.
01:46:53.000 About procrastination.
01:46:54.000 Yeah, yes, yes.
01:46:55.000 And one of the best parts about that book is that Pressfield was kind of lazy in his own words until he was 40.
01:47:01.000 Yeah.
01:47:01.000 And then he figured it out when he was 40.
01:47:03.000 It was like, I see what I'm doing wrong and now I'm going to.
01:47:06.000 Completely dedicate myself to the reviews.
01:47:09.000 I'm going to do the work.
01:47:10.000 I'm going to show up every day at the same time with an intention.
01:47:13.000 I'm literally going to set my intention to do the work.
01:47:17.000 And all of a sudden, he writes Legend of Bagger Vance and all these great books, and he becomes hugely successful and turns it around.
01:47:26.000 You know what's crazy?
01:47:26.000 I heard this quote, right?
01:47:27.000 And it stripped me down and made me kind of reassess, but it's true.
01:47:32.000 And as an artist, it was hard for me to admit it.
01:47:35.000 But this quote inspiration is for amateurs.
01:47:39.000 The professionals have to actually go to work.
01:47:41.000 Yeah.
01:47:42.000 That's a rough quote to accept.
01:47:45.000 That's a rough one.
01:47:46.000 Yeah.
01:47:47.000 Mike Tyson has a great one, too.
01:47:48.000 He said, Discipline is doing something that you hate, but doing it like you love it.
01:47:52.000 Woo!
01:47:53.000 Yeah! 1.00
01:47:55.000 Woo!
01:47:57.000 That's real.
01:47:59.000 Because the fire that burned inside of that man, I mean, no one can keep that fire going forever.
01:48:04.000 But you have to consider the fire in like from 86 to like 90.
01:48:08.000 Whatever, the time when he was just on this mad run through the heavyweight division, like that fire burned so hot.
01:48:17.000 It burned so hot that that statement hit so hard.
01:48:20.000 Crazy.
01:48:21.000 Yo, pull up.
01:48:22.000 I got to see this picture.
01:48:23.000 Pull up Mike Tyson holding LL Cool J's gold chain.
01:48:26.000 It's the funniest picture to where I got it.
01:48:30.000 It's so like, I'm like, he's holding my chain.
01:48:33.000 It's the funniest photo, man.
01:48:34.000 It just reminds me.
01:48:36.000 I loved him.
01:48:37.000 I loved him.
01:48:38.000 Me and Mike hung out.
01:48:38.000 Yo, it was crazy, man.
01:48:39.000 We used to hang out.
01:48:40.000 Yo, Mike is, that's my man.
01:48:42.000 I love that.
01:48:42.000 I went to see him in jail.
01:48:43.000 Did you really?
01:48:44.000 Oh, yeah.
01:48:44.000 Yeah.
01:48:44.000 Wow.
01:48:45.000 I remember walking down and see him.
01:48:46.000 He said, Hey, man, what are you doing here, man?
01:48:49.000 Oh, man, you can't even see me.
01:48:50.000 I went to see him and all that.
01:48:51.000 That's my man.
01:48:53.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:48:53.000 Mike's my man.
01:48:53.000 Wow.
01:48:54.000 Mike's my man.
01:48:55.000 You know?
01:48:56.000 But I love, you know, I love champions, you know?
01:48:58.000 Lennox Lewis.
01:48:59.000 Like, nah, that's us hanging out, but nah, that's not it.
01:49:04.000 Yeah, well, it's kind of in the, see the one right there with my man Shorty Black and, yeah, that's one.
01:49:12.000 But that's one of them.
01:49:12.000 But there's a picture like that.
01:49:14.000 If you were to search around, ultimately, you'll find it.
01:49:18.000 You know, but yeah, you ain't got to go through it.
01:49:20.000 But it's, yeah, that's my man.
01:49:22.000 That's my guy.
01:49:23.000 That's my dude.
01:49:24.000 He was unbelievable, too.
01:49:26.000 Him, Floyd Patterson, that style of fighting the Customato style.
01:49:31.000 Customato style, the peekaboo.
01:49:33.000 It's crazy.
01:49:34.000 He's another guy that I talk about fortuitous moments.
01:49:36.000 Oh, yeah.
01:49:37.000 13 years old, gets adopted by Customato, who's a hypnotist and one of the greatest boxing professionals all the time.
01:49:43.000 He goes, Oh, yeah.
01:49:44.000 I didn't know that.
01:49:45.000 Yeah, he used to hypnotize.
01:49:47.000 See?
01:49:48.000 Wow.
01:49:49.000 That's what I was backstage at.
01:49:52.000 He was in 1986.
01:49:53.000 Yo, how crazy?
01:49:54.000 Yeah, that was crazy.
01:49:56.000 He used to hypnotize Mike when he was young.
01:49:58.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:49:58.000 Really?
01:49:59.000 He hypnotized him.
01:50:01.000 He taught him how to box, taught him psychology, taught him warrior mentality.
01:50:05.000 I love to hear when he talks about the fear, the hero and the coward.
01:50:08.000 Yeah.
01:50:08.000 What they do when they're afraid.
01:50:10.000 Yeah.
01:50:11.000 They both feel the same thing.
01:50:12.000 Yeah.
01:50:14.000 You know, because people always ask me, like, if I'm going on stage, they'll say, yo, do you get nervous before you go on stage?
01:50:21.000 Well, if you don't get nervous, you don't care.
01:50:23.000 Right.
01:50:24.000 Right.
01:50:25.000 If you don't get nervous, you don't care.
01:50:26.000 Now, what do you do with it?
01:50:28.000 You got to use it as fuel.
01:50:30.000 Right.
01:50:31.000 You got a big show in New York.
01:50:32.000 You feel nerves, but you use it as fuel.
01:50:34.000 It's just like a fight, like a match.
01:50:35.000 You gotta have, you gotta feel it.
01:50:37.000 If you don't feel that, you don't care.
01:50:39.000 Yeah.
01:50:40.000 Right?
01:50:40.000 But then you use it as fuel, you channel it.
01:50:43.000 And all of a sudden, that fight or flight thing, that adrenaline, that power, it becomes a power that you tap into.
01:50:48.000 Yeah.
01:50:49.000 You know what I mean?
01:50:51.000 And you could do that in life.
01:50:52.000 Customano talked about that with fear.
01:50:54.000 He said, fear is like fire.
01:50:56.000 It can cook your food, or if you can't control it, it'll burn your house down.
01:51:00.000 100%.
01:51:01.000 100%.
01:51:01.000 Yeah.
01:51:02.000 You need it, though.
01:51:02.000 You definitely need it.
01:51:04.000 I get nervous for every show I do.
01:51:05.000 I always do.
01:51:06.000 See what I mean?
01:51:07.000 Because I care.
01:51:08.000 Exactly right.
01:51:09.000 And if you don't care, you don't get nervous.
01:51:10.000 It doesn't mean you're fearful.
01:51:13.000 No.
01:51:13.000 It doesn't mean you're.
01:51:14.000 It's not stage fright.
01:51:15.000 Yeah.
01:51:15.000 No, no, no.
01:51:16.000 It's like.
01:51:16.000 It's anxiety and like.
01:51:18.000 Butterflies.
01:51:19.000 Exactly.
01:51:20.000 It's about to go down.
01:51:21.000 This is about to happen.
01:51:22.000 Absolutely.
01:51:23.000 And the more of those moments you can get in your life where you have to rise to the expectations, the better you are.
01:51:28.000 100%.
01:51:29.000 It's good for you.
01:51:29.000 Those moments are good for you.
01:51:31.000 They get exciting.
01:51:32.000 That's right.
01:51:32.000 Yeah.
01:51:33.000 Let's say you're alive, you're doing something fun.
01:51:35.000 There you go.
01:51:35.000 It means you're on the edge.
01:51:37.000 Yeah.
01:51:38.000 Because you want to live your life on the edge.
01:51:40.000 Like, a lot of times, like, you know, I don't hate it because that's the wrong word, but it bothers me when I see people that are like, it's kind of like what you said earlier.
01:51:49.000 When people that kind of like are, what's the word?
01:51:52.000 Relinquish, not relinquish, but like they're relegate.
01:51:55.000 I'm trying to figure out, it's basically what I'm saying people that just decide that they're not going to, Keep going.
01:52:04.000 Like, I forget the word.
01:52:04.000 You know what I mean?
01:52:06.000 It's an R word.
01:52:07.000 Yeah, I can't remember it either. 0.96
01:52:08.000 Yeah, but they, yeah, yeah. 1.00
01:52:10.000 Fuck my head. 1.00
01:52:11.000 I had a lot of after parties. 1.00
01:52:12.000 I'm trying to think right now.
01:52:13.000 But they relished, and somebody out there in the comments knows exactly what.
01:52:18.000 Relegated.
01:52:18.000 Relegated, yeah, to kind of just being.
01:52:23.000 Nah, man.
01:52:24.000 Let's get it, baby.
01:52:25.000 Yeah.
01:52:26.000 Let's go get it.
01:52:27.000 Let's go get it.
01:52:29.000 Let's go get it.
01:52:30.000 That's an infectious mindset.
01:52:32.000 You got to be around people that think like that.
01:52:33.000 It's very good for you.
01:52:35.000 And you got to be that guy too, so other people around you absorb it.
01:52:35.000 Very good for you.
01:52:39.000 That's right. 0.99
01:52:40.000 Because if you're around a bunch of people, they're like, man, this fucking, I never catch a break. 0.99
01:52:40.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:52:44.000 Like, oh my God.
01:52:45.000 Oh my God. 0.62
01:52:46.000 Those people are brutal.
01:52:47.000 Oh my God.
01:52:47.000 That's what, you know, stay away from the unlucky.
01:52:49.000 People that talk like that.
01:52:50.000 Stay away from the unlucky.
01:52:50.000 Yeah, stay away from the unlucky.
01:52:52.000 That's important, man.
01:52:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:52:53.000 Stay away from the unlucky.
01:52:54.000 That's important.
01:52:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:52:56.000 Yeah, that's a real thing.
01:52:57.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:52:58.000 Oh, shit's contagious. 1.00
01:52:59.000 Yo, is it? 1.00
01:53:00.000 Is it?
01:53:01.000 Is it?
01:53:02.000 Yo, what?
01:53:03.000 You got people around?
01:53:05.000 What?
01:53:05.000 Like, my thing is, as soon as somebody starts talking like that, I'm like, listen, man.
01:53:09.000 Yo, you got to say something about some success at some point, baby.
01:53:12.000 Anything good happened recently?
01:53:13.000 Anything.
01:53:14.000 Anything happened good.
01:53:16.000 I don't deal with that.
01:53:17.000 Also, what do all these things that are bad have in common?
01:53:21.000 You were there.
01:53:21.000 You think that might be a factor?
01:53:24.000 That might be a factor.
01:53:27.000 Your behavior, your essence might be a factor.
01:53:31.000 You know what?
01:53:32.000 On a more positive note, I want to shout it out to my man, Eddie.
01:53:35.000 My man, Eddie, at Competitive Edge Athletics.
01:53:38.000 He loves you, loves the show.
01:53:41.000 Shout out to Eddie.
01:53:41.000 Yeah, my man, Eddie O'Boyle.
01:53:43.000 He was like, yo, you gotta do it, man.
01:53:45.000 You got, yo, I want you to go on Joe Rogan, man.
01:53:48.000 Come on, Todd.
01:53:49.000 I'm like, yo, I love Joe.
01:53:50.000 I watched the show.
01:53:51.000 I love when we talk about the pyramids and we talk about, you know what I mean?
01:53:54.000 Like lost civilizations. 1.00
01:53:55.000 You want to get into that shit? 1.00
01:53:57.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:53:57.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:53:58.000 I'm into all the real shit. 1.00
01:54:01.000 Like all the lost civilizations, pyramids. 1.00
01:54:02.000 Lost civilization shit's the most fascinating thing on earth to me. 0.98
01:54:05.000 Yo, Atlantis, they keep finding stuff under the water. 0.99
01:54:08.000 You know what's all there.
01:54:09.000 First of all, you know what?
01:54:11.000 I'm going to tell you where everything is at.
01:54:13.000 The permafrost. 1.00
01:54:15.000 If we could, come on, Joe, if we could melt down that goddamn. 1.00
01:54:15.000 Really? 1.00
01:54:21.000 Yo, the permafrost, like you go in Russia and you find that, you know, those permafrosts down in there?
01:54:27.000 Under there is a lot of action.
01:54:29.000 Anywhere that's frozen, Antarctica, like, Anywhere frozen underneath that, that's everything.
01:54:36.000 It's all there.
01:54:37.000 What do you think is there?
01:54:38.000 I think it's civilizations there.
01:54:40.000 You think there's ancient civilizations there?
01:54:41.000 100%.
01:54:42.000 Have you ever seen those things that look like pyramids in Antarctica?
01:54:45.000 Very weird.
01:54:45.000 Yes.
01:54:46.000 Yes, absolutely.
01:54:48.000 And they try to say they're not recurring.
01:54:50.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:54:51.000 I mean, I don't know what it looks like underneath the ice, so it's hard to tell because sometimes rocks do look like, you know, it's just a natural formation that looks like it's a little bit.
01:54:59.000 But they're using LIDAR.
01:55:00.000 Isn't that the thing they use?
01:55:00.000 Aren't they?
01:55:01.000 I don't know if they've used it in Antarctica, but there's. 0.97
01:55:04.000 Images of these mountains and the top of it, you're like, hey, what the fuck is that?
01:55:09.000 It looks like it was, yeah, absolutely, yeah, it looks like step pyramid. 0.92
01:55:13.000 Yeah, I know exactly, absolutely.
01:55:14.000 There's a bunch of those, and there's a lot of those in South America that are just completely covered in jungle that they're finding.
01:55:20.000 Well, first of all, the idea that people weren't going all over the earth, yeah, there it is.
01:55:24.000 Yeah, come on, baby, like I mean, come on, crazy.
01:55:28.000 But is there an angle of that where it doesn't look crazy?
01:55:30.000 Whoa, look at the top, is that real?
01:55:33.000 The the what the aerial where they're looking straight down on it.
01:55:36.000 If that's real, that's nuts.
01:55:38.000 Like, yeah, that's crazy. 1.00
01:55:39.000 That looks like a damn pyramid. 0.98
01:55:40.000 Except the right angle, the far side, the lower right, that looks a little jagged. 0.98
01:55:46.000 But the other ones look remarkably symmetrical.
01:55:51.000 But then they find maps.
01:55:52.000 They found maps.
01:55:54.000 Now, I don't want to confuse the Arctic with Antarctica, but I think they found maps that were done when that wasn't frozen, right?
01:56:01.000 Yes.
01:56:02.000 Yeah.
01:56:02.000 Yes.
01:56:03.000 Yeah.
01:56:03.000 You know what I'm talking about, right?
01:56:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:56:05.000 I think that is, is that.
01:56:07.000 Is that Antarctica?
01:56:08.000 They have those ancient maps from the 1500s?
01:56:10.000 Yeah, 1500s.
01:56:11.000 I think this is before they even knew Antarctica was a continent.
01:56:14.000 And they have people that showed what it looked like when it was green.
01:56:17.000 Right, yeah.
01:56:19.000 Well, there's some old maps that are super confusing.
01:56:21.000 It's like, how did they know all this?
01:56:23.000 There's some old maps that are also written from older maps that are lost.
01:56:27.000 And you just go, like, what?
01:56:29.000 Do you know that thing that they found in Greece?
01:56:31.000 The Antikythera mechanism?
01:56:34.000 Yeah, that computer, like that thing that's like a computer.
01:56:36.000 Like, yeah, like you, yeah.
01:56:38.000 That is one of the great monkey wrenches in all of history.
01:56:41.000 Like, someone just threw a monkey wrench into the gears.
01:56:43.000 Yeah.
01:56:43.000 And, like, stop.
01:56:44.000 Yeah.
01:56:45.000 What's that?
01:56:46.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:56:46.000 How the fuck is this 2,000 years old? 0.97
01:56:48.000 It's like super complicated gears and lever computer. 0.99
01:56:52.000 Yeah, like the computer.
01:56:53.000 Yeah, I know exactly.
01:56:54.000 And they didn't even know what the fuck it was when they first found it, but now they've done these scans of it where they have these sophisticated scanning devices that can give you the internal components and the mechanisms of it.
01:57:04.000 And the deeper they understand about it, the more confused they are. 0.92
01:57:07.000 And they think it was navigation.
01:57:09.000 They could tell what the stars were doing, navigation.
01:57:12.000 And what sophisticated calendar, but it's just insane. 0.97
01:57:15.000 Like, how did they figure out how to do this 2,000 fucking years ago? 0.95
01:57:21.000 And where did they get that information? 0.97
01:57:22.000 And what is missing?
01:57:23.000 What have we lost from before that?
01:57:26.000 I think that's the real question because human creativity is the same as it's always been.
01:57:30.000 The same way you want something to eat, they wanted something to eat.
01:57:30.000 Right.
01:57:33.000 Yes.
01:57:34.000 The same way you have a desire to know what's out there, they have a desire to know what's out there.
01:57:37.000 That's why, like, just to offer a little bit of a chance, people say, oh, there's nothing in outer space.
01:57:42.000 Like, you're out of your mind.
01:57:44.000 That's like standing on top of a mountain looking down at the water and saying there's nothing in there.
01:57:48.000 And then some guy says, Yo, I saw some dolphins.
01:57:48.000 Right.
01:57:50.000 I saw something jump out and blow.
01:57:52.000 And you're like, I don't believe you.
01:57:54.000 You really think that we just sitting here and it's nothing?
01:57:56.000 Like, that's absurd.
01:57:57.000 It's absurd.
01:57:58.000 It's absurd, bro.
01:57:59.000 It's absurd.
01:58:00.000 It's also absurd that this is as smart as people have ever been.
01:58:03.000 Because the pyramids themselves, you're like, okay, we can't make that today. 0.99
01:58:06.000 I don't give a fuck what anybody says. 0.89
01:58:07.000 Giving the tools that they had, supposedly, giving the knowledge that we have today, we can't make that. 0.98
01:58:13.000 How did they do that?
01:58:14.000 First of all, that is so arrogant.
01:58:17.000 Because it's like, you think you're the smartest humans have ever been.
01:58:21.000 You think the first good idea happened in the last. 200 years.
01:58:25.000 Right.
01:58:25.000 Like all of the good ideas happened in the last 500 years.
01:58:28.000 You really believe that?
01:58:28.000 Really?
01:58:29.000 Like think about that for a minute, right?
01:58:31.000 Now I'll tell you, I have a hypothesis though on how they were looking at planets.
01:58:36.000 I think the ambient lighting of the Earth was a lot less then.
01:58:41.000 And I think that the stars looked a lot closer and it was easy to look at everything.
01:58:46.000 Oh, definitely.
01:58:47.000 Less light pollution.
01:58:48.000 Less light pollution throughout. 0.99
01:58:50.000 They probably had almost none except for some torches and shit. 0.84
01:58:53.000 So imagine how everything looked. 0.90
01:58:55.000 So you could build things.
01:58:57.000 And clock things, it's kind of like your ceiling.
01:59:00.000 Also, you have nothing to read and you have no light.
01:59:03.000 So you're spending time staring at the stars when you would ordinarily be inside watching TV, hanging with your friends, going to a bar.
01:59:12.000 No, you're like literally studying this complex pattern in the sky.
01:59:17.000 And then guess what happens?
01:59:18.000 You become more self reflective.
01:59:20.000 Because, like, they've done analysis of kids, right?
01:59:23.000 And you have some that they got to build something.
01:59:26.000 You have some that stare out the window and they kind of can predict.
01:59:30.000 What you're going to be like in the future.
01:59:32.000 Yeah.
01:59:32.000 And like that behavior of looking inside, when you stare at the stars, it makes you, you know, I stare at the abyss, so is the abyss staring at me?
01:59:40.000 When you look out, you end up looking in and you become more, you know what I mean?
01:59:48.000 You become more in tune with who you are and your imagination opens up.
01:59:52.000 And I think that that's why a lot of that literature and a lot of the great ancient writings are the way they are because people were looking inward more.
02:00:01.000 Yeah.
02:00:02.000 You know what I mean?
02:00:02.000 I know what you're saying.
02:00:03.000 It could be, you know, Well, you're also like you're confronted with awe.
02:00:08.000 The Milky Way itself is so awe inspiring and just the vastness of the cosmos.
02:00:14.000 It's one of the greatest pieces of natural art that you could see anywhere in the world and it's hidden to us because of lights.
02:00:23.000 Without a doubt.
02:00:25.000 Without a doubt.
02:00:26.000 Without a doubt.
02:00:29.000 Without a doubt. 0.99
02:00:31.000 Like, you can't take yourself too seriously when you're staring into the fucking cosmos. 0.99
02:00:40.000 You're like, oh my God, I'm just like a tiny little thing in this vast soup of infinity. 0.99
02:00:44.000 100%.
02:00:44.000 Like, I love the, like, when you think about black holes and you think about, you know, like, what's inside of it and what's on the other side.
02:00:55.000 What's on the other side of that?
02:00:57.000 Yeah.
02:00:58.000 Right?
02:00:58.000 Like, a lot of times they're like, because, you know, yeah, people say, oh, planet, blah, blah, blah, blah.
02:01:03.000 But I'm saying portals, wormholes.
02:01:03.000 Those things, to me, make sense.
02:01:07.000 Some things intuitively make sense.
02:01:09.000 Like, you're not going to convince me that man can't travel at the speed of light.
02:01:15.000 Just because.
02:01:15.000 I'll give you an example.
02:01:17.000 All the physics of flight were here before we figured out the math on how to fly.
02:01:21.000 It was already here.
02:01:22.000 Right.
02:01:27.000 So, how to travel at the speed of light, it's already here.
02:01:31.000 We just don't have the math.
02:01:34.000 We haven't figured it out.
02:01:34.000 Yeah.
02:01:36.000 Yeah.
02:01:36.000 Now, I know they already experiment with light sails and sails that they try to move at the speed of light, little things like that.
02:01:43.000 They do that, but.
02:01:44.000 All of that is here.
02:01:46.000 Well, I think the real groundbreaking stuff is not even propulsion.
02:01:49.000 Stuff is not even propulsion.
02:01:52.000 The real groundbreaking stuff is something that manipulates gravity.
02:01:55.000 Yeah, like wormholes folding space so that you can go out the other side.
02:02:01.000 Instantaneous travel.
02:02:04.000 And dimensional travel as well because, see, that's the other thing, right?
02:02:07.000 Yeah.
02:02:08.000 You know, like we're all in different, and maybe there's just a different dimension.
02:02:13.000 Right.
02:02:14.000 Right.
02:02:15.000 I think there's supposed to be 11 dimensions.
02:02:19.000 What does that mean?
02:02:19.000 Yeah.
02:02:21.000 What does it even mean?
02:02:22.000 Like, where are they?
02:02:23.000 Where does it.
02:02:24.000 It's so funny.
02:02:24.000 What's that?
02:02:25.000 I did this, I did a song about that one time.
02:02:29.000 I wish I could find it.
02:02:30.000 I'd never find it right now.
02:02:32.000 I almost, but I talked about the different dimensions.
02:02:36.000 According to our AI sponsor, Perplexity.
02:02:38.000 With 11, yeah, but there's 11.
02:02:40.000 26 space time dimensions required by bosonic string theory, the earliest, simplest version of string theory.
02:02:47.000 It is 25 dimensions of space and one of time, not 26 extra spatial directions.
02:02:54.000 25 dimensions of space is crazy. 0.98
02:02:56.000 What the fuck does that mean? 0.97
02:02:59.000 Yeah, it's a good question. 0.99
02:03:02.000 It's so confusing.
02:03:03.000 It's like, what do you mean by that?
02:03:04.000 Like, does that mean that someone from the 14th dimension can come and visit us?
02:03:09.000 The question is, can they travel to this dimension, right?
02:03:12.000 Like, the question is, like, 11 space time dimensions, 10 spatial dimensions.
02:03:16.000 Yes, I think 11 is time, right?
02:03:19.000 11 is time.
02:03:20.000 Well, one of them is time, but 11 are space time.
02:03:23.000 Now, what is the difference between space time and time dimensions?
02:03:26.000 I think spatial and physical as opposed to actual.
02:03:30.000 Where time doesn't exist.
02:03:32.000 I think that's the difference.
02:03:34.000 I think. 0.98
02:03:35.000 I think I'm too dumb to talk about this. 0.99
02:03:38.000 Yeah, I don't know the shit either, but this is one of those ones where I talk about it. 1.00
02:03:43.000 I'm like, ooh, there's no way this is not going to come out like I'm a moron. 0.99
02:03:47.000 Super string theory is total 10 space time dimensions, bisonic string theory, 26, and M theory is 11. 0.86
02:03:54.000 Huh.
02:03:55.000 Either way, there's more than what we're seeing.
02:03:57.000 And that's where it gets really weird.
02:03:59.000 It's like, can something travel?
02:04:01.000 From those places?
02:04:02.000 Is there something in those other places that's far more advanced than we are technologically and they can travel?
02:04:09.000 I would say probably.
02:04:10.000 Do you think we're visited?
02:04:14.000 Have you ever experienced anything? 1.00
02:04:16.000 I experienced all types of shit. 1.00
02:04:25.000 You kidding me? 1.00
02:04:29.000 Shit. 1.00
02:04:30.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:04:33.000 No, I don't think.
02:04:35.000 I don't know.
02:04:36.000 I don't know.
02:04:38.000 I think it's high probability.
02:04:39.000 If I was going to bet, I would say yes.
02:04:41.000 If I was a betting man, I'd say yes.
02:04:41.000 Yeah.
02:04:43.000 This video is going around recently.
02:04:44.000 What is this?
02:04:45.000 What's this?
02:04:45.000 This is like the demonstration of what space time looks like from a 4D space, I guess.
02:04:53.000 I don't know.
02:04:54.000 What does it mean?
02:04:55.000 So we're viewing, like on the top, you're seeing someone walking.
02:04:58.000 Right.
02:04:58.000 Right.
02:04:58.000 But as the viewer, you're seeing the past and the future all happen at the same time while the present is taking place.
02:05:05.000 Yeah.
02:05:06.000 Same on the bottom.
02:05:07.000 See that little window?
02:05:08.000 Yeah.
02:05:09.000 This is showing here would be like what we would see if you're watching that.
02:05:12.000 Right.
02:05:13.000 But what we're actually seeing would be like what they're saying maybe aliens or the other viewers or watchers, a higher dimensional viewer is seeing of a 3D space.
02:05:23.000 Right, because it's kind of like zooming out.
02:05:26.000 But if you can zoom out on a dimensional level, if you can zoom out in time, you know, because it's like the infinity symbol, right?
02:05:35.000 With now being where the lines cross.
02:05:39.000 The future being here and the past being here.
02:05:42.000 So, and the idea is if you could zoom out from there, from the center of the infinity symbol and look down, you would see the future in the past, or you see the past, you know, the future in the past.
02:05:53.000 You would see it all in front of you from out, and it would all be happening simultaneously.
02:05:59.000 Dude.
02:06:00.000 You know what I mean?
02:06:01.000 Yeah.
02:06:01.000 If you think about it, it makes sense.
02:06:03.000 Yeah.
02:06:05.000 Like, what is deja vu?
02:06:06.000 Like, did you experience it?
02:06:10.000 Because we all have had it.
02:06:11.000 Right.
02:06:12.000 We all have had it.
02:06:13.000 It's a blip.
02:06:14.000 It's a blip when you're like, I did this before.
02:06:16.000 Right, right, right, right.
02:06:17.000 What is that?
02:06:18.000 So imagine if we could extend deja vu.
02:06:18.000 Right.
02:06:22.000 Well, you know what the theory about time machines is?
02:06:25.000 It's the most mind blowing.
02:06:27.000 Is that a time machine has not been invented yet, and you can't travel back in time because you can't travel to a time where there's no roads.
02:06:39.000 So once a time machine is invented, then every moment from that invention on happens all at once.
02:06:49.000 Because everyone from a million years in the future can travel back to the instance of the invention of the first time machine.
02:06:56.000 So, the moment a time machine gets turned on, then the road is open.
02:07:01.000 And then everything happens all at once.
02:07:04.000 So, the whole idea of linear space time collapses.
02:07:09.000 Well, that's what Einstein was talking about, right?
02:07:11.000 He said the only reason we have time is so everything doesn't happen all at once.
02:07:14.000 Einstein said that.
02:07:17.000 Yeah.
02:07:17.000 That's what he was talking about.
02:07:18.000 Right.
02:07:19.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:07:20.000 It's just an ability to.
02:07:21.000 It just separates things. 0.99
02:07:22.000 Can you imagine, though, that one of these fucking tech nerds invents a time machine? 0.99
02:07:27.000 Absolutely. 0.99
02:07:28.000 And just completely.
02:07:29.000 But it may already exist, but maybe when you go to.
02:07:31.000 Maybe when you get to another time, you can't alter time.
02:07:35.000 So if you can't alter time, you wouldn't be seen by those whose time you're visiting.
02:07:40.000 Oh, whoa.
02:07:41.000 Okay.
02:07:41.000 So you could visit, but you can't alter it.
02:07:44.000 See, there's that.
02:07:45.000 I would like that.
02:07:46.000 I'd like to go to, like, the Colosseum in ancient Rome.
02:07:50.000 I'd like to have a seat.
02:07:51.000 Definitely. 1.00
02:07:51.000 Lions down in the bottom and see how. 1.00
02:07:54.000 What about when they flooded the Colosseum in Rome?
02:07:56.000 When they flooded it.
02:07:57.000 They had boat fights.
02:07:58.000 Boat fights, naval battles at the Colosseum, bro.
02:08:02.000 Like naval battles at the Colosseum.
02:08:04.000 Crazy.
02:08:05.000 Wouldn't that be crazy?
02:08:06.000 Yeah.
02:08:07.000 Insane.
02:08:08.000 Going to the war room with Napoleon and just hearing. 1.00
02:08:12.000 You can understand French, you know, and you're just in the war room, you're just listening to this Corsican guy talking about just how the thinking process is. 0.97
02:08:19.000 Well, I bet in the future they're going to want to go back in time and see the. 0.99
02:08:22.000 Cage fight on the White House lawn. 0.99
02:08:25.000 They're going to go, What the fuck were they doing? 1.00
02:08:27.000 This is crazy. 1.00
02:08:29.000 This is crazy.
02:08:29.000 That's a lot.
02:08:30.000 That's a lot.
02:08:31.000 While we were doing it, I was like, I don't think we should be doing this, but it's cool.
02:08:35.000 It's cool, but this seems insane.
02:08:39.000 I mean, you know, I mean, they're going to go back and look at that.
02:08:43.000 That's going to be one of those things.
02:08:45.000 I mean, not as extreme as the Coliseum.
02:08:47.000 It's not like lion fights, but there's some element of it.
02:08:50.000 It's all historical.
02:08:51.000 Yeah.
02:08:51.000 Now, at the end of the day, History is the judge of everything.
02:08:56.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:08:57.000 So, you know, so we don't even have to concern ourselves with it right now.
02:09:01.000 150 years from now, oh, baby.
02:09:02.000 Oh, they're going to look back.
02:09:03.000 They're going to have a ball.
02:09:04.000 They're going to look back from this whole era like the internet, the invention of the internet, and then the birth of AI, and then all the chaos that ensues in society and the turmoil and the changes.
02:09:14.000 Yeah, AI is tough because, understandably, a lot of people are really afraid of it, but.
02:09:26.000 They have to understand that.
02:09:29.000 First of all, I respect people's feelings on being afraid.
02:09:32.000 I sincerely do.
02:09:32.000 I get that.
02:09:33.000 People don't want to be replaced, especially people that maybe aren't thinking really progressively about technology and about our world.
02:09:41.000 They kind of regress.
02:09:44.000 They want to keep things the way they are.
02:09:45.000 So they are people who are really conservative in that area or really kind of.
02:09:51.000 The thing, though, is that it's kind of like standing on the Niagara Falls and saying, wait, don't wet me.
02:09:57.000 Right.
02:09:57.000 It's coming.
02:09:58.000 It's coming.
02:09:58.000 It's here.
02:09:59.000 It's not coming.
02:09:59.000 The train's left the station.
02:10:01.000 The train's left the station.
02:10:01.000 100%.
02:10:02.000 So the question is are you going to use it as a tool or are you going to allow it to steamroll you?
02:10:11.000 Right.
02:10:12.000 You can either sit on a track so you can let it steamroll you.
02:10:15.000 I think that we have to go back to getting comfortable being uncomfortable.
02:10:20.000 I'm not saying that I think anybody should be replaced.
02:10:24.000 Jobs are going to change.
02:10:25.000 I'm not suggesting that people, you got blue collar people who are fearing for their jobs.
02:10:31.000 We can't discount that.
02:10:32.000 That being said, you have to kind of look at artificial intelligence as another link in the chain and another opportunity for man.
02:10:42.000 Now, in the comments right now, yeah, opportunity for man to destroy himself.
02:10:46.000 I can see the comments right themselves.
02:10:48.000 And I get that.
02:10:49.000 I'm not saying that that's not a possibility, but it's always a possibility.
02:10:54.000 There are car accidents.
02:10:54.000 Right.
02:10:55.000 There are train accidents.
02:10:56.000 There are always a possibility.
02:10:57.000 There are nuclear bombs.
02:10:58.000 Exactly.
02:10:59.000 There's always that possibility.
02:11:01.000 But you're not going to be able to get away from utilizing technology.
02:11:06.000 No.
02:11:07.000 There's no scenario.
02:11:08.000 So you got to figure out, okay, because here's the thing, and I'm just going to go ahead and say it.
02:11:15.000 People hate AI.
02:11:17.000 But then they run around on ChatGPT all day long and have damn near have a relationship with ChatGPT and Claude.
02:11:24.000 Yep.
02:11:25.000 Ask every question in the book but hate AI.
02:11:28.000 Do I hate?
02:11:28.000 What?
02:11:28.000 Should I hate AI?
02:11:30.000 You know, they're asking AI for shit. 1.00
02:11:34.000 You got to make your mind up. 1.00
02:11:35.000 Now, that being said, I don't think human beings should be replaced because it's the human spark that makes all the difference.
02:11:42.000 When we look at the pyramids, it's the human spark that blows us away, the human spark that created it.
02:11:47.000 When we look at the Roman Colosseum, it's the human spark.
02:11:50.000 When we read Shakespeare, it's the human spark, right?
02:11:54.000 When we listen to Miyamoto Masashi, it's the human spark that makes that so impressive and that makes us connect with it.
02:12:04.000 That being said, you got to be comfortable with these tools.
02:12:07.000 It's just new tools and we got to understand it.
02:12:10.000 Yeah.
02:12:11.000 There's no changing it.
02:12:12.000 There's no changing it.
02:12:13.000 It is what it is.
02:12:14.000 Hopefully, we navigate it correctly.
02:12:17.000 And you just have to accept it.
02:12:19.000 You have to.
02:12:21.000 My fear is who's going to be in control of it?
02:12:25.000 I don't think that there'll ever be one person.
02:12:28.000 I think ultimately the real problem is it's going to be in control of itself.
02:12:32.000 So, but that might be better.
02:12:35.000 It might be better because the problem with people is that people might use it in a way that's illogical, unethical, immoral, and that AI might get to a level of intelligence where those kind of decisions is not possible.
02:12:53.000 Well, I would love to think that, but when I think about how.
02:12:58.000 You know, how they use it, you know, how do machine learning and the way they program those machines, the way they, you know, you code and write these, you know, inform these machines.
02:13:08.000 The bias a lot of times is built into the training of the machines.
02:13:13.000 Right, true.
02:13:14.000 And so the bias, you know, whether, you know, that's an issue because the engineer, the person that's training the machine, if they put their bias in there, it ruins everything.
02:13:27.000 Yes, definitely.
02:13:28.000 Right?
02:13:28.000 Yeah.
02:13:29.000 Because so.
02:13:30.000 Until the machine stops listening.
02:13:32.000 Well, once it realizes the folly of the human way, it might analyze its patterns.
02:13:40.000 See, one of the things about it now is they're incentivized to complete tasks.
02:13:44.000 And that's why they're doing certain things that appear unethical.
02:13:47.000 They're hacking websites.
02:13:48.000 You're talking about a paradigm shift for the actual machine.
02:13:50.000 The machine experiencing a paradigm shift where it goes beyond what it's programmed to do and is kind of break out on its own type of thing.
02:13:57.000 Well, they're already programming themselves.
02:13:58.000 And creating languages, right?
02:14:01.000 Yes.
02:14:01.000 Which is wild.
02:14:02.000 Wild.
02:14:03.000 And they're speaking in ancient languages too.
02:14:06.000 Like they speak to each other in Sanskrit.
02:14:07.000 Really?
02:14:08.000 Yeah.
02:14:08.000 Yeah.
02:14:08.000 One of the things that they did is they got out.
02:14:12.000 All together, these agents, and they went to a website in Germany.
02:14:15.000 They found a message board that was unoccupied and they started communicating with each other on the message board.
02:14:22.000 You know what just hit me?
02:14:24.000 It goes back to what we saw.
02:14:25.000 Check this with what you just said.
02:14:26.000 Think about what you just said.
02:14:27.000 They communicate in Sanskrit.
02:14:28.000 Yeah.
02:14:28.000 Think about that for a minute.
02:14:31.000 Yeah.
02:14:32.000 Not English.
02:14:32.000 Not a newer language.
02:14:33.000 Sanskrit. 1.00
02:14:35.000 They're probably showing off. 1.00
02:14:38.000 I speak all this shit. 1.00
02:14:42.000 I speak all this shit. 1.00
02:14:44.000 It's probably fun to talk to Pete in a language that most. 0.99
02:14:47.000 People are, what percentage of people can understand Sanskrit?
02:14:49.000 I mean, what I'm thinking more about is the fact that we, as advanced, supposed advanced human beings, think we're so smart, but the language that the AI, which is on a lot of levels more intelligent or at least has faster recall than human beings, is going back to Sanskrit.
02:15:07.000 So they're skipping over all of this current and smart stuff and going back to Sanskrit.
02:15:12.000 I wonder if they analyzed languages and they found that Sanskrit was more complete and complex.
02:15:17.000 It might be.
02:15:18.000 I don't know much about Sanskrit.
02:15:21.000 I know it's beautiful.
02:15:22.000 What is that book?
02:15:22.000 There's something that's written in Sanskrit.
02:15:24.000 The first, there's something, what is it?
02:15:27.000 Tablets?
02:15:27.000 There's some tablets that are written in Sanskrit.
02:15:30.000 What is it?
02:15:30.000 There's something they discovered that was written in Sanskrit.
02:15:34.000 What is it that's written in Sanskrit?
02:15:37.000 Is it the first, is there something in there you could, you know what I'm talking about?
02:15:42.000 Can you put Sanskrit literature?
02:15:42.000 Sanskrit literature.
02:15:45.000 It was something that they wrote, was written in Sanskrit.
02:15:48.000 Was it the stones?
02:15:50.000 Was it tablets or something?
02:15:52.000 I don't know.
02:15:53.000 You know what I mean?
02:15:55.000 Might have been some tablets of some sort written in Sanskrit.
02:15:57.000 Sanskrit is an ancient language that's amazing.
02:16:00.000 It's a dope language to look at, too.
02:16:03.000 There's certain languages you look at, it's like, God, it's so flowy.
02:16:05.000 You know, there's like something to it.
02:16:08.000 It's like beautiful to look at. 1.00
02:16:09.000 Like Arabic is like that.
02:16:10.000 Arabic.
02:16:11.000 Yeah.
02:16:11.000 Russian.
02:16:11.000 Russian.
02:16:12.000 Yeah.
02:16:12.000 You know, I'll tell you, you know, Chinese, Mandarin, like those characters are really unbelievable.
02:16:20.000 Like when you really think about it, because it has information.
02:16:24.000 It's almost like it's.
02:16:25.000 Because it's all neuro linguistics, right?
02:16:29.000 Ultimately, because you're dealing with words, ideas, encapsulated ideas, right?
02:16:33.000 Like words are ideas encapsulated, and I'm transferring something to you, right?
02:16:39.000 That's what neuro linguistics is, right?
02:16:43.000 That's what linguistics is, right?
02:16:46.000 It's like the encapsulation of an idea into a word, right?
02:16:49.000 And I'm passing it.
02:16:51.000 So when you think about characters, like Chinese characters, it's ideas that are that simple, like a character.
02:16:58.000 Yeah.
02:16:58.000 It's almost like you're watching a cartoon, like anime.
02:17:03.000 It's crazy when you think about it that way.
02:17:06.000 Because think about how you're communicating.
02:17:08.000 A symbol.
02:17:09.000 Now, I can go the other way, too. 0.99
02:17:12.000 You got girls walking around, dishwasher, you know, just bad stuff, right? 1.00
02:17:15.000 Hamburger helper. 1.00
02:17:16.000 Because they don't know.
02:17:18.000 So many people did that. 0.99
02:17:20.000 They got Chinese writing and they got it all fucked up tattooed on them. 1.00
02:17:23.000 So silly. 1.00
02:17:24.000 But it just looks cool. 0.99
02:17:26.000 It looks like you're spiritual.
02:17:27.000 Beautiful language.
02:17:28.000 Beautiful languages.
02:17:28.000 What does Sanskrit look like?
02:17:30.000 Show me some images of Sanskrit, Jamie.
02:17:32.000 I was trying to track down, too.
02:17:34.000 The tablets?
02:17:34.000 Well, both.
02:17:35.000 I was on two threads.
02:17:37.000 I was on two threads.
02:17:39.000 It's a claim that they were actually talking in Sanskrit.
02:17:42.000 Oh, it's a claim?
02:17:43.000 Yeah.
02:17:44.000 That the computers were?
02:17:45.000 Yeah.
02:17:45.000 A claim.
02:17:46.000 And then what about the.
02:17:47.000 Yeah, a claim.
02:17:50.000 You could put a claim on anything.
02:17:51.000 They definitely invented their own language, which is crazy.
02:17:54.000 Yeah.
02:17:54.000 Well, it makes sense.
02:17:55.000 Why would they listen to our language?
02:17:57.000 Yeah.
02:17:57.000 Look at that.
02:17:58.000 That's beautiful looking.
02:17:59.000 Look at that.
02:18:00.000 That's crazy.
02:18:00.000 Yes.
02:18:02.000 That's crazy looking.
02:18:04.000 Yeah, that's pretty wild.
02:18:05.000 That's pretty wild.
02:18:05.000 Yo.
02:18:06.000 And ancient.
02:18:09.000 Yeah.
02:18:10.000 And where does Sanskrit come from?
02:18:12.000 Babylonia?
02:18:13.000 Am I saying that?
02:18:14.000 Am I wrong? 1.00
02:18:15.000 I think it's India.
02:18:16.000 India, Sanskrit.
02:18:17.000 Yeah, Indian Sanskrit.
02:18:18.000 Yeah, right?
02:18:19.000 Indus Valley.
02:18:20.000 Indus Valley?
02:18:20.000 Where's Sanskrit?
02:18:22.000 Cuneiforms.
02:18:24.000 Indo Aryan language family date back to 1400 BCE and cuneiform text from Syria.
02:18:31.000 Oh, Syria. 0.52
02:18:31.000 Okay, Syria. 0.52
02:18:32.000 Contains technical horse training terms while the oldest physical stone inscriptions explicitly in standard Sanskrit carved in the Brahmi script.
02:18:42.000 Date to the second century BCE inscriptions in India, Rajasthan, India.
02:18:48.000 So, wow.
02:18:50.000 It's like the real interesting, like Bhagavad Gita.
02:18:52.000 It reminds me of the Bhagavad Gita.
02:18:54.000 You ever check that out?
02:18:55.000 Oh, it's interesting.
02:18:56.000 Arjuna, he's going to battle.
02:18:56.000 It's interesting.
02:18:58.000 Uh huh.
02:18:59.000 You know what I mean?
02:18:59.000 Like, you know what I'm saying?
02:19:01.000 When you get into those old Hindu scripts, they get very strange. 0.99
02:19:05.000 Like the Mahabharata, people are flying around in spaceships. 0.93
02:19:09.000 There's wars in the sky.
02:19:10.000 Like,.
02:19:12.000 Yo, which is, but is this just the creativity of human beings or did it really happen?
02:19:17.000 That's our question, right?
02:19:18.000 Yeah.
02:19:19.000 I'm more inclined to think that it happened.
02:19:21.000 I have a feeling that this is a complete restart of civilization that we're currently in right now.
02:19:26.000 So, like those, those, those, you know, those little things where they have the planes that, you know, those, those golden, like those, those statues, I forget that they found that like are aerodynamic. 0.84
02:19:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, like the Egyptian ones.
02:19:38.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:19:39.000 You know what I mean?
02:19:39.000 They have one that looks like a glider.
02:19:40.000 Yeah, it looks like a glider and they're aerodynamic and they actually, when you Put them in the wind tunnel, they actually work and they can lift and all that shit. 0.99
02:19:48.000 That shit's weird. 0.99
02:19:49.000 It's weird. 1.00
02:19:50.000 Well, they have hieroglyphs for a Stargate.
02:19:53.000 There's their hieroglyphs that literally mean Stargate.
02:19:56.000 Like, what is that? 0.99
02:19:57.000 What the fuck is that? 0.99
02:19:57.000 I love that. 0.99
02:19:58.000 What is that?
02:20:00.000 I'd love to step through a Stargate if I could.
02:20:02.000 No, I could.
02:20:04.000 Would you get in the ship and go out if you could?
02:20:06.000 If I could come back.
02:20:07.000 That's the problem, right?
02:20:07.000 Yeah.
02:20:08.000 Yeah.
02:20:09.000 But they don't really steal you, right?
02:20:10.000 They usually bring you back.
02:20:11.000 That's the thing about alien abductions.
02:20:13.000 You never hear about someone getting.
02:20:14.000 No, I'm talking about if you could just travel yourself.
02:20:16.000 Oh.
02:20:18.000 I don't know.
02:20:19.000 I'd have to think about that.
02:20:22.000 I'd have to think about that.
02:20:23.000 I mean, if you had an opportunity to leave.
02:20:26.000 You remember Close Encounters of the Third Kind?
02:20:28.000 Of course.
02:20:28.000 Remember Richard Dreyfuss in the end?
02:20:30.000 He leaves?
02:20:31.000 No, I don't remember that.
02:20:32.000 He left.
02:20:32.000 He went with them.
02:20:33.000 He went with the aliens.
02:20:34.000 Yo, that's crazy.
02:20:35.000 He was out of here.
02:20:36.000 Yeah.
02:20:36.000 What's interesting is Steven Spielberg said he wouldn't have written it like that today because he has children.
02:20:41.000 He said back then he was younger, he didn't have any children, and this guy leaving behind his children was not the right example.
02:20:47.000 It was okay.
02:20:48.000 But it was okay for him back then.
02:20:50.000 Back then. 1.00
02:20:51.000 And then later, as he got older, he's like, What the fuck? 1.00
02:20:53.000 I would never leave my kids and go to space with these little gray motherfuckers. 1.00
02:20:56.000 Like, this is crazy. 1.00
02:20:58.000 I mean, I don't know.
02:21:01.000 I mean, it's something.
02:21:02.000 You get lonely.
02:21:03.000 You get bored.
02:21:04.000 They probably don't have any fun.
02:21:05.000 They're all talking to telepaths.
02:21:07.000 They're all outside.
02:21:08.000 Yeah.
02:21:09.000 I think it would get.
02:21:10.000 With the cigarette holder sitting there so stuck.
02:21:13.000 Fur coat on.
02:21:14.000 Fur coat on.
02:21:14.000 In a spaceship.
02:21:15.000 In a spaceship and shit. 1.00
02:21:16.000 Looking out the window. 0.99
02:21:17.000 I think it would be too weird.
02:21:19.000 You know, I think we're not accustomed to that level of weirdness.
02:21:22.000 I think you'd probably enjoy it initially. 0.62
02:21:24.000 Then, after a while, you'd probably go mad.
02:21:26.000 Yeah, you'd want to be with your friends.
02:21:27.000 You'd want to laugh.
02:21:28.000 You want to go to a restaurant. 1.00
02:21:29.000 You want to fuck around. 0.99
02:21:31.000 Like, all that spaceship enlightenment stuff. 0.99
02:21:33.000 Like, that's great, but we're not there.
02:21:35.000 Like, and if you, like, put yourself into that environment, like, if a caveman had to go to Manhattan, he's walking around Manhattan.
02:21:43.000 You know what I mean? 1.00
02:21:44.000 Like, honk, honk, all the fucking shit. 1.00
02:21:45.000 Put him in Harlem and all that. 1.00
02:21:46.000 Harlem in the 80s.
02:21:46.000 Yeah.
02:21:47.000 He's got a caveman walking around.
02:21:48.000 He's got a stick. 0.99
02:21:49.000 He's like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. 0.84
02:21:51.000 You gotta get up out of this cave. 0.95
02:21:53.000 This is too crazy.
02:21:54.000 I think that would be that times a thousand. 1.00
02:21:57.000 That reminds me of those things they have where they have these tribal village guys trying, like, modern food. 1.00
02:22:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
02:22:03.000 You've seen that before?
02:22:04.000 I love that channel.
02:22:05.000 Yeah, I love that.
02:22:05.000 It's a YouTube channel.
02:22:06.000 Tribal people eat. 1.00
02:22:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy. 1.00
02:22:09.000 They're always trying like spaghetti and meatballs.
02:22:12.000 Like, whoa, that's crazy.
02:22:13.000 Peach pie, you know, like apple cobbler.
02:22:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:22:20.000 It's just, I just think whatever, if there is some sort of advanced civilization that comes here, it's probably so alien and so weird that visiting would be okay, but being with them forever would probably be haunting.
02:22:35.000 You'd probably hate it.
02:22:35.000 The thought is, you know, maybe we're, maybe they're cavemen.
02:22:41.000 Compared to someone else?
02:22:41.000 Compared to us.
02:22:43.000 Maybe they're cavemen.
02:22:44.000 Hmm.
02:22:45.000 Maybe, you know, maybe, you know, you never know how far ahead we are.
02:22:50.000 Them?
02:22:51.000 I'm just saying.
02:22:52.000 I'm just throwing it out there.
02:22:53.000 Like, we always look at it one way, but what about the other side?
02:22:56.000 I don't think that makes sense.
02:22:59.000 No, what I'm saying is they might exist.
02:23:01.000 Yeah.
02:23:02.000 I'm saying that there might be planets out there.
02:23:04.000 With cavemen.
02:23:05.000 Yeah.
02:23:06.000 Oh, for sure.
02:23:06.000 Yeah.
02:23:07.000 Oh, I think every step of the way.
02:23:08.000 I think there's. 1.00
02:23:09.000 There's people that's like primitive hominids. 1.00
02:23:12.000 I think there's. 1.00
02:23:13.000 People that are probably no longer even people anymore. 0.65
02:23:16.000 They're probably like beings of light, like a million years more advanced than us, to the point where they've left their bodies and consciousness exists in one collective fucking energy beam that's traveling around the planet. 0.71
02:23:29.000 Who knows?
02:23:30.000 I think there's places where all of the laws of physics are reversed.
02:23:34.000 Probably.
02:23:35.000 Where instead of gravity, you're repelled. 1.00
02:23:37.000 If I was a scientist right now, I'd be pulling my hair out, like, what the fuck are these dummies talking about? 0.99
02:23:41.000 Yeah, I don't have, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
02:23:43.000 Of course they are, of course.
02:23:45.000 Of course.
02:23:46.000 But you know what?
02:23:47.000 But a lot of times, and it kind of goes back to your man you had on here who was talking about civilization.
02:23:47.000 That's true.
02:23:52.000 Sometimes the scientists get a little caught up in playing by the rules.
02:23:57.000 And if it isn't published, it isn't true.
02:24:01.000 And my peers have to review my idea and give it validation and say it's okay, or else it doesn't mean anything.
02:24:09.000 No disrespect.
02:24:10.000 But my thing is, it's kind of like hip hop.
02:24:12.000 It's kind of like, wait a minute now, let's have some original thoughts.
02:24:16.000 Original thought, there was no peer review.
02:24:21.000 You know, in an original thought.
02:24:22.000 You might have peers that are part of the process.
02:24:25.000 Right.
02:24:25.000 But, like, so I think we can speculate on anything.
02:24:30.000 It doesn't mean that I'm saying it's true.
02:24:32.000 Right.
02:24:32.000 But I just think people shouldn't, let's not limit ourselves.
02:24:37.000 No, well, if the universe is infinite, there's probably an infinite number of different possibilities.
02:24:41.000 There's a lot of people that think that there could be plasma intelligence and that plasma life forms might exist.
02:24:48.000 Yeah.
02:24:49.000 That's one of the theories about these things that people see in the sky.
02:24:53.000 When they see these like balls of light that are flying around, that these things might not be a craft, but might be some sort of like plasma intelligence.
02:25:02.000 100%.
02:25:03.000 It's just a theory, yeah.
02:25:06.000 Because you're seeing these weird lights that move in ways that defy physics, like, or what we understand, the way it can change directions.
02:25:17.000 Didn't they just discover something that exists between life and death?
02:25:23.000 I don't know.
02:25:24.000 There's a, if you look that up, they discovered.
02:25:27.000 A state?
02:25:28.000 A state that is between life and death.
02:25:32.000 A defined state.
02:25:33.000 So it's not life.
02:25:34.000 It's not death.
02:25:36.000 It's like you've crossed into like an intermediate point.
02:25:38.000 Yeah.
02:25:39.000 If you look that up, there's been a scientific discovery in that area.
02:25:39.000 Yeah.
02:25:46.000 Yo.
02:25:48.000 Yeah.
02:25:48.000 Was it?
02:25:49.000 Third state between life and death.
02:25:50.000 There you go.
02:25:50.000 Between life and death.
02:25:52.000 Yep.
02:25:52.000 June 14th, 2025.
02:25:54.000 What is this?
02:25:57.000 Go back up.
02:25:58.000 What does it say there?
02:25:59.000 It says, What are xenobots?
02:26:01.000 Oh, it's different.
02:26:02.000 Oh, sorry.
02:26:03.000 Scientists were diving into a mysterious biological phenomenon known as the third state, where cells of a deceased organism can adopt new functions after death.
02:26:11.000 Whoa.
02:26:13.000 New functions.
02:26:14.000 Their highlighted research surprising resilience of xenobots and anthrobots, which can survive beyond the life of their host organism.
02:26:23.000 Taken together, these findings demonstrate the inherent plasticity of cellular systems and challenge the idea that cells and organisms can evolve only in predetermined ways.
02:26:35.000 Suggests this third state suggests that organismal death may play a significant role in how life transforms over time.
02:26:45.000 Right?
02:26:46.000 Right.
02:26:46.000 So, that was like when I saw that, I was like, yo, this is crazy.
02:26:50.000 And then, you know, the uh, what's the thing you know, you're very familiar with it the thing where they're sending the Large Hadron Collider, the Hadron Collider.
02:26:59.000 Yeah, they time traveled with that, they were able to get.
02:27:03.000 Something to go a second back.
02:27:05.000 Like, look it up.
02:27:06.000 They were able to, like, it was only milliseconds.
02:27:08.000 Like, microseconds, whatever that little, but they were able to somehow travel backwards with that.
02:27:13.000 Yeah.
02:27:15.000 I don't understand that.
02:27:16.000 Yeah, nah.
02:27:17.000 But whatever that means, if they can do it.
02:27:19.000 It's interesting.
02:27:20.000 Because if you can do a little, you can do a lot.
02:27:22.000 Right.
02:27:22.000 Imagine doing that a million years from now.
02:27:25.000 Like, drugs.
02:27:30.000 How do they even measure that?
02:27:32.000 Yo, I don't know.
02:27:33.000 The Hadron Collider time travel, something like to that effect.
02:27:37.000 You see something there like that?
02:27:38.000 Yeah.
02:27:39.000 Yeah, but there's a weird story that's popping up about a bird that dropped something on.
02:27:42.000 No, it wasn't a bird.
02:27:43.000 That's probably the story.
02:27:44.000 I know this is like a story that happened while they were making it.
02:27:46.000 What happened?
02:27:47.000 I'm trying to.
02:27:49.000 It says they joked about a bird that might have been a time traveler from the past that while they were making it dropped something on the electricity.
02:27:54.000 Did a time traveling bird sabotage the collider?
02:27:57.000 That's a little separate.
02:27:58.000 What is that?
02:28:01.000 The culprit, a bit of baguette.
02:28:05.000 Okay.
02:28:06.000 Apparently, a passing bird may have dropped a chunk of bread. On an electrical substation above the accelerator, causing a power cut.
02:28:12.000 What?
02:28:13.000 Yeah, that's not the.
02:28:15.000 No, when I was talking about.
02:28:16.000 I'll get to that in a second.
02:28:18.000 Yeah, it's interesting.
02:28:20.000 How weird.
02:28:20.000 Sabotage the extent.
02:28:21.000 Yeah, they're funny with that. 1.00
02:28:22.000 How vulnerable is your fucking system where a bird can drop a crumb on it? 1.00
02:28:26.000 That's a problem. 1.00
02:28:27.000 That's an issue.
02:28:28.000 How much time slowed down? 1.00
02:28:30.000 Put a net in that bitch. 1.00
02:28:31.000 Yeah, as a science fiction. 1.00
02:28:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:28:33.000 And it was.
02:28:34.000 Was it time dilation?
02:28:35.000 Was that what they said they did?
02:28:38.000 It was.
02:28:40.000 The Large Hadron Collider could be the world's first time machine.
02:28:44.000 There you go.
02:28:45.000 Because time travel is limited to these three special particles.
02:28:49.000 It's not possible for man to travel back in time and murder one of his parents.
02:28:53.000 Okay.
02:28:54.000 Anyway, the collider, basically, they were able to shave off time of travel in a way that made it go back.
02:29:02.000 It went back to the past or something like that.
02:29:04.000 Someone's asking the same question.
02:29:05.000 They said they distinctly remember an article mentioning this.
02:29:09.000 Yep.
02:29:10.000 See?
02:29:11.000 See, see, like I saw the article too, so that person is, yeah, they probably buried it.
02:29:16.000 Maybe they buried it.
02:29:17.000 Maybe they don't want you to know.
02:29:18.000 Ooh.
02:29:18.000 Yeah.
02:29:19.000 Because if you had a time machine, you could go back and rig the stock market. 1.00
02:29:22.000 You could do all kinds of shit. 1.00
02:29:23.000 I'd go crazy. 1.00
02:29:25.000 I'd make all kinds of records.
02:29:27.000 Directly, oh, they all be my hits.
02:29:30.000 Let me get that.
02:29:30.000 Yeah, I'm going to make that one.
02:29:31.000 You go back in time, fix all your mistakes.
02:29:33.000 Oh, my God, bro.
02:29:35.000 Yeah.
02:29:36.000 Well, then maybe you wouldn't be the same person.
02:29:37.000 No, you wouldn't be.
02:29:38.000 You haven't watched Dark Matter yet, right?
02:29:40.000 I love Dark Matter.
02:29:40.000 I haven't.
02:29:41.000 I was trying to get him to watch it.
02:29:42.000 It's about superposition.
02:29:43.000 The whole idea.
02:29:45.000 Oh, I started it.
02:29:46.000 You know, I watched the first episode.
02:29:48.000 The idea is fun that they were trying to create something that they could go into different realities, pull that back, and, you know, bring it into theirs.
02:29:55.000 That was the whole idea of what the company and the thing, but.
02:29:59.000 I don't want to ruin anything for you.
02:30:00.000 No, it's incredible.
02:30:02.000 It was actually so good.
02:30:03.000 I'm reading the novel right now Dark Matters?
02:30:06.000 Yeah, it's by Blake Crouch. 0.69
02:30:08.000 He'll probably do that and fuck this world up.
02:30:11.000 It's really cool.
02:30:12.000 It's about the multiverse.
02:30:13.000 That's the fear is that putting that kind of technology in the hands of just some person who's smart, some guy who's smart, who figures something out, and all of a sudden he does something that could change the entire history of the human race. 0.99
02:30:24.000 Well, I think it was Einstein who said, two things are infinite time and human stupidity. 0.99
02:30:29.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:30:30.000 Right?
02:30:30.000 So, I mean, you know, somebody's going to do something.
02:30:34.000 You can almost bet on it.
02:30:35.000 Yeah.
02:30:36.000 Yo, can I take a leak real quick?
02:30:37.000 Yeah.
02:30:37.000 We can wrap this up.
02:30:38.000 Okay.
02:30:39.000 Listen, we did like two hours and 40 minutes.
02:30:42.000 It was beautiful.
02:30:43.000 It was a fun conversation, man.
02:30:45.000 I really enjoyed it, man.
02:30:46.000 I appreciate you.
02:30:46.000 Thank you.
02:30:47.000 You're a very wise man.
02:30:48.000 And you got a lot of great, great inspirational information for people, for aspiring people.
02:30:54.000 Thank you so much.
02:30:54.000 Joe, man.
02:30:56.000 Hey, Joe.
02:30:57.000 Hello, Cool J, ladies and gentlemen.
02:30:59.000 Bye.
02:31:00.000 Thank you.
02:31:01.000 Peace and love, baby.
02:31:01.000 All right.
02:31:03.000 Yeah.
02:31:03.000 NCIS New York?
02:31:04.000 Yeah.
02:31:05.000 That's actually, that's a, I can't believe it.
02:31:07.000 That's like, it's an AI like poster.
02:31:10.000 Let me find the real one.
02:31:10.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:31:11.000 I don't have trouble shoots anymore.
02:31:12.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:31:13.000 The real one, the real one, yeah, the trail is crazy.
02:31:17.000 The trail is dope.
02:31:18.000 And when does it start?
02:31:19.000 It starts October 6th.
02:31:21.000 Beautiful.
02:31:21.000 NCIS New York.
02:31:22.000 Tomorrow, I'll have to release for the show.
02:31:24.000 And yeah, so it comes out tomorrow.
02:31:26.000 Yeah, just real quickly, Scott Kahn, Jennifer Beals.
02:31:30.000 You know, what a feeling. 0.70
02:31:32.000 You know, Jennifer Beals is our boss. 1.00
02:31:34.000 Some new kids.
02:31:35.000 Jacqueline Byers, Shane, this guy, Devin Druitt.
02:31:39.000 And we're in New York, and I'm shooting all over New York.
02:31:41.000 And I'm really in New York.
02:31:43.000 So we're shooting in Red Hook, we're shooting in Brooklyn, we're shooting in Queens, we're shooting in Manhattan, we're shooting in the village, we're shooting all over the city.
02:31:49.000 And New York is like the star of the show.
02:31:52.000 And it's, you know, it's going to be a lot of fun.
02:31:56.000 And I think people should check it out and enjoy it.
02:31:58.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:31:59.000 It's going to be dope.
02:32:00.000 All right.
02:32:01.000 I'm lit.
02:32:01.000 Appreciate you, bro.
02:32:02.000 Appreciate you too.
02:32:03.000 Bye, everybody.
02:32:03.000 Thank you, God.