The Joe Rogan Experience - October 08, 2026


Joe Rogan Experience #2563 - Dan Richards

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00:00:02.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.
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00:00:12.000 Danny, hey Joe.
00:00:13.000 Good to see you, brother.
00:00:14.000 Good to see you again, man.
00:00:15.000 So, right off the bat, you hand me this Smithsonian pamphlet.
00:00:20.000 It's like a very small book on Peruvian elongated skulls, including like diagrams.
00:00:27.000 Yeah, not Peruvian.
00:00:28.000 These are from the Pacific Northwest.
00:00:30.000 Oh.
00:00:30.000 From Washington.
00:00:31.000 This is one of the things where I wanted to really bring up to you.
00:00:34.000 The majority of the elongated schools in recorded history are from Washington State, Oregon.
00:00:39.000 Now, are these manipulated schools?
00:00:39.000 Yeah.
00:00:41.000 Yes, sir.
00:00:42.000 They were manipulated by people.
00:00:42.000 Yes, sir.
00:00:45.000 As a matter of fact, when Lewis and Clark reached the Columbia River, they passed the Cascade Mountains.
00:00:52.000 All of the Native Americans west of the Cascades had artificially modified schools.
00:00:57.000 Look at the title of the book The Chinook Sign of Freedom.
00:00:59.000 If you didn't have an artificially modified school, you were a slave.
00:01:02.000 Whoa.
00:01:03.000 The Chinook Sign of Freedom.
00:01:06.000 A study of the skulls of the famous chief, how do you say his name?
00:01:09.000 Concomly.
00:01:10.000 Concomly.
00:01:11.000 And he was, he was, he met with Lewis and Clark during their expedition.
00:01:18.000 And he was as famous as Sacagawea was 100 years ago.
00:01:22.000 But he's just disappeared.
00:01:25.000 He had an artificially elongated skull.
00:01:28.000 A bunch of images talk about it.
00:01:30.000 He attributed his intellect to his artificially elongated skull.
00:01:34.000 What?
00:01:34.000 Yeah.
00:01:35.000 They believed he How would you know though?
00:01:37.000 They did it when you were a baby.
00:01:37.000 They don't.
00:01:39.000 But that's what they all believed.
00:01:39.000 Exactly.
00:01:41.000 And there is actually something to this.
00:01:43.000 This is one of the things that's really interesting that I've stumbled on is, you know, Neanderthal.
00:01:47.000 If you look at the difference between a Neanderthal brain case and a human brain case, there's a huge difference.
00:01:54.000 I have an image if you don't mind, Jamie.
00:01:55.000 You can throw it up there if you don't care.
00:01:58.000 But it's all in the back.
00:02:00.000 It's like there's a thing called Chiari malformation type 1, where basically your cerebellum falls into your spinal cord and it causes migraines and all kinds of stuff.
00:02:10.000 And scientists now are saying that it probably came from.
00:02:13.000 Us and Neanderthal, brain case, skull, not quite fitting.
00:02:18.000 And if you think about it, it actually makes a lot of sense, right?
00:02:20.000 I mean, the Neanderthal skull is way wide in the back.
00:02:23.000 And that's where all of your motor skills, your smelling, your seeing, your hearing.
00:02:28.000 Yeah, they were more primitive.
00:02:29.000 They're probably super athletes.
00:02:31.000 And the real, the weird question is, like, were they smart and how smart were they?
00:02:36.000 Like, their frontal lobe is not as big as ours, correct?
00:02:41.000 Correct.
00:02:41.000 And that's where all the thought processing and decision making comes from.
00:02:46.000 So they probably had.
00:02:48.000 Insane athletic ability.
00:02:49.000 Oh, yeah, absolutely.
00:02:50.000 And motor skills and visual ability.
00:02:52.000 The visual ability is important because look at the size of their eye sockets.
00:02:57.000 Now, imagine if you wanted the best of both worlds, so you were breeding these two species together.
00:03:02.000 Look at the jaw on that motherfucker.
00:03:04.000 Imagine trying to knock that guy out.
00:03:06.000 Fuck, good luck.
00:03:07.000 Forget about it.
00:03:07.000 Although they had chests like barrels, too.
00:03:10.000 They all look like you do naturally.
00:03:10.000 Right.
00:03:12.000 They don't have to lift.
00:03:13.000 They just that way.
00:03:15.000 They probably look a lot more impressive than me.
00:03:17.000 Well, the guy on the left, he looked He looked like me naturally.
00:03:21.000 I mean, do you remember that one?
00:03:24.000 I think it's just nonsense, but there's this one guy who proposed the idea of Neanderthals being like gorilla looking, like super predators.
00:03:34.000 And he thought that the eyes were bigger so they could see at night.
00:03:37.000 And he had like this crazy.
00:03:39.000 They were eating us all, yes.
00:03:39.000 It was very.
00:03:40.000 Right, right, right.
00:03:41.000 Very sensationalist nonsense.
00:03:43.000 And the genetic evidence is what, you know.
00:03:45.000 Yes.
00:03:45.000 Yeah, that guy.
00:03:46.000 It was fucking dope, though.
00:03:47.000 It is dope.
00:03:48.000 I love it.
00:03:49.000 See in the dark.
00:03:50.000 You know, like primate that lives in the woods and was like infinitely stronger than us.
00:03:55.000 Like, you just rip our arms, right?
00:03:57.000 Like, gorilla strong.
00:03:58.000 But not smart enough that you could, like, hey, man, could you please?
00:04:01.000 No, He's just going to eat you.
00:04:03.000 Oddly enough, he has a skull that has a larger capacity than us.
00:04:06.000 And so then we have to think okay, is it just motor skills?
00:04:09.000 Like, what do we know about the brains of dolphins?
00:04:14.000 Well, we know that their brain capacity is quite a bit larger.
00:04:18.000 Like, I think their cerebral cortex, I think, is like 40% larger than a person's.
00:04:24.000 Yeah, something crazy like that.
00:04:26.000 So, what is that?
00:04:28.000 Like, what's going on with them?
00:04:29.000 Like, how are they so much more intelligent than us, but they just can't manipulate their environment?
00:04:35.000 So we ignore it?
00:04:36.000 Well, that could be.
00:04:36.000 It also could be a degree of chemistry that they can't.
00:04:39.000 You know, I mean, you can't do fire underwater, really.
00:04:41.000 So you're kind of stuck with your technological stuff.
00:04:43.000 There's no manipulation, right?
00:04:45.000 So all of their intellect must go into other areas social and hunting.
00:04:50.000 But then you find out how horrible they are to each other.
00:04:54.000 You know what I mean?
00:04:54.000 Yeah.
00:04:55.000 Like the infanticide, you know, like dolphins, female dolphins are very promiscuous.
00:05:02.000 And the reason why they're promiscuous is because if the male doesn't know if the cubs are his, Or not, if he thinks they might be his, he's not going to kill the cubs.
00:05:11.000 But if a female has cubs, the male will kill the cubs so the female will breed again.
00:05:17.000 It's like, hey, I thought you guys were like the super peaceful, smart ones.
00:05:22.000 Sounds like, sounds like kind of like us.
00:05:24.000 Well, I don't know a lot of guys who are killing babies so the women will breed again, but it gets close.
00:05:30.000 Chimpanzees do it.
00:05:31.000 Do they do that?
00:05:32.000 Yeah, they do that kind of stuff.
00:05:33.000 Bears do that.
00:05:34.000 Yeah, it's bears do two things they think.
00:05:37.000 They think one, they eat cubs.
00:05:39.000 To force the female into breeding again, but two, they think they just do it for food.
00:05:44.000 It's just dark.
00:05:45.000 That's, yeah, that's arachnid levels of dark, right?
00:05:49.000 Cannibalism is dark.
00:05:50.000 Always.
00:05:51.000 And bears are all cannibals.
00:05:52.000 And this is the thing about people and the amphiphomorphication.
00:05:57.000 How do you say it?
00:05:57.000 Is that the word?
00:05:58.000 Anthropomorphication.
00:05:59.000 Anthropomorphication.
00:06:00.000 I want to say pro, but it's po, right?
00:06:05.000 Anthropomorph?
00:06:06.000 Anthropomorph.
00:06:07.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:06:08.000 I think you're right.
00:06:09.000 Whatever it is.
00:06:10.000 People.
00:06:11.000 Humanizing animals.
00:06:12.000 The weirdest one, I think, is bears.
00:06:15.000 And, like, you can train bears.
00:06:17.000 There's bears at the circus.
00:06:19.000 They're an interesting animal.
00:06:21.000 But in the wild, they are some of the fucking most brutal and ruthless creatures.
00:06:27.000 It's basically almost like a giant wild dog, you know?
00:06:31.000 And they tear things apart and they eat things while they're still alive.
00:06:36.000 They don't care.
00:06:36.000 They don't care.
00:06:37.000 They're fucking horrible.
00:06:39.000 They're horrible to each other.
00:06:40.000 They go into dens and pull out cubs and eat them.
00:06:42.000 I mean, I.
00:06:43.000 Yeah, just a different set of morality, I guess you could say, or lack thereof.
00:06:49.000 But yeah, I'm glad I'm not a bear because I'd probably have been eaten as a cub.
00:06:53.000 Or you would have been hit by a car.
00:06:54.000 Or I'd have been hit by a car.
00:06:55.000 That's the rough one.
00:06:57.000 Or caught in a trap and trained to be a dancing ballerina bear or some shit, standing on a ball.
00:07:01.000 The ancient humans, though, to me, are like I feel like this is an emerging topic.
00:07:07.000 Even though we've known about Neanderthals for so long, now that they know about Denisovans, now that they know about Homo floriensis?
00:07:16.000 Yeah, I'm pronunciation on that.
00:07:18.000 Island of Flores, man, the hobbit people.
00:07:22.000 Now they know, okay, we've got two very distinct human beings that lived with humans that aren't Homo sapiens.
00:07:28.000 And the Denisovans one is fucking super weird.
00:07:32.000 They're big.
00:07:32.000 They're big.
00:07:33.000 They were taller than us.
00:07:35.000 And the bigger heads, like very almost like Neanderthal like.
00:07:38.000 Yeah, there's some of this stuff that I got to talk about here is like polydactyly, multiple fingers and more than five fingers.
00:07:47.000 Fingers and toes on each end.
00:07:48.000 Yes.
00:07:48.000 That's in the Bible.
00:07:49.000 They talk about the giant.
00:07:50.000 Yes.
00:07:51.000 Polydactyly, if there's a gene G I, could you pull up the one that says polydactyly paper, please?
00:07:57.000 That says polydactyly paper, please.
00:08:00.000 Thank you.
00:08:01.000 They've been studying this, and there's a gene that Neanderthal and Denisovans had, a variant that increases polydactyly, it increases cranial deformations, it increases a bunch of stuff.
00:08:15.000 This is, I mean, they, and this is, and this is all newer stuff.
00:08:18.000 You see, that's 2023.
00:08:22.000 And there's, this is huge.
00:08:24.000 I saw your video on this where you talked about there's one family in Brazil.
00:08:28.000 That has, like, most of their family members have six fingers and six toes.
00:08:33.000 And yeah, and they say it helps them.
00:08:34.000 Of course.
00:08:35.000 Of course.
00:08:36.000 I can grab the ball better.
00:08:37.000 I can play an extra string, right?
00:08:39.000 Imagine guitar, extra finger.
00:08:39.000 Right.
00:08:41.000 That's nuts.
00:08:42.000 I mean, you could even be an ugly dude and seduce a woman when you got an extra finger.
00:08:46.000 Good luck.
00:08:48.000 Chicks don't want to have kids with a guy who has fucking six fingers.
00:08:51.000 I'm some freak kid.
00:08:54.000 In South America, they actually honored that stuff.
00:08:56.000 Of course.
00:08:57.000 They honored genetic deformations.
00:08:59.000 I honestly believe that they.
00:09:01.000 We're actively breeding different bloodlines together in South America.
00:09:05.000 Look at that baby.
00:09:06.000 It's crazy.
00:09:07.000 It is.
00:09:08.000 It's got five fingers and a thumb.
00:09:10.000 That's crazy.
00:09:14.000 I mean, the thing is, they look absolutely normal in every other way, except the fact that they have five fingers instead of four.
00:09:20.000 Like, and it would take you a few seconds.
00:09:22.000 It's almost like you're living in the Matrix and this is like an AI glitch.
00:09:26.000 You know, like AI glitches?
00:09:27.000 They would have people that have like additional appendages, like a weird elbow growing off your elbow, you know, because it just glitched.
00:09:33.000 The clat walks by the clat.
00:09:35.000 Yeah, oh, yeah.
00:09:36.000 Like, it would take you a while before you realize.
00:09:38.000 Imagine if you were high and you went over this lady's house and you saw her playing piano and you're like, wait a minute, why is there so many noises?
00:09:48.000 Slow down with the noise.
00:09:49.000 How do you have so many fingers?
00:09:51.000 Wait a minute, you have extra fingers?
00:09:54.000 Like, this dude had a special glove here.
00:09:55.000 That's a massive ass glove right there.
00:09:56.000 Bro, he must be a motherfucker of a goalie.
00:09:59.000 Oh, of course.
00:10:00.000 It's the greatest hand skill for goalies.
00:10:00.000 Right?
00:10:03.000 Yeah, but a lot of extra space, but sure.
00:10:06.000 More space.
00:10:07.000 You cover it up.
00:10:09.000 It's definitely better if you could teach them how to punch.
00:10:11.000 You have a whole other finger that, like, the width of the hands would be greater.
00:10:15.000 The weight of the hands would be greater.
00:10:16.000 Yeah, the guitar players say it's not the extra finger as much as it is the extra stretch, the extra reach that lets them pop a couple extra fists in.
00:10:23.000 Oh, that makes sense.
00:10:24.000 That makes sense.
00:10:25.000 Especially, like, long fingers.
00:10:27.000 Well, the guitar is still made for a five fingered player, right?
00:10:30.000 So, yeah, it's not.
00:10:30.000 Right.
00:10:32.000 Well, you can figure out how to do it with six.
00:10:33.000 Like, look what Hendrix did.
00:10:34.000 He just flipped his guitar upside down, played it left handed.
00:10:37.000 It's like a Stevie Ray Vaughan, local hero, right?
00:10:39.000 Right.
00:10:40.000 Yeah.
00:10:41.000 Turn that thing and stand.
00:10:42.000 You've seen the Live at El Macomber one where he takes his $15,000 Stratocaster, stands on the horns, and he's rocking the neck back and forth.
00:10:51.000 And I'm just, whoa, pops the string, just, fuck your pick, bang, don't even care, just go.
00:10:56.000 It's not a toy, it's not an instrument, it's a damn toy, it's a tool.
00:10:56.000 Wow.
00:10:59.000 It's a, yeah.
00:11:00.000 Yeah.
00:11:01.000 Anyway, I got to gush about that guy for a bit.
00:11:03.000 I like Stevie, he's pretty good.
00:11:05.000 We have posters or photos of him from when he was on stage at the club way before we owned it.
00:11:10.000 Oh, really?
00:11:11.000 Yeah.
00:11:12.000 He was on that stage in like the 80s.
00:11:15.000 Oh, wow.
00:11:15.000 I think the picture's from 83.
00:11:17.000 Yeah, I popped into Antones a couple of times to just smell the air.
00:11:22.000 Yeah.
00:11:22.000 Antones is dope.
00:11:24.000 That's a great place.
00:11:25.000 I've seen Gary perform, Gary Clark Jr. perform there a few times.
00:11:28.000 It's fucking sick.
00:11:29.000 Yeah, I haven't got to watch a show there every time I'm in town.
00:11:32.000 It was up to no good, but I'm going to have to catch a show there one of these nights.
00:11:36.000 Yeah, we did it, and everybody got COVID.
00:11:39.000 The whole crew, everyone backstage got COVID.
00:11:42.000 It's one of their guys.
00:11:43.000 Yeah, one of their guys had COVID after the show.
00:11:45.000 It was like during the whole.
00:11:46.000 During the full lockdown, and they had a concert.
00:11:48.000 I was like, I can't believe we're at a concert.
00:11:50.000 And then we went backstage, we're hanging out in the green room, and then everybody got COVID.
00:11:53.000 Oh, fuck.
00:11:55.000 I am not a fan.
00:11:56.000 Yeah, except me.
00:11:57.000 I didn't get it.
00:11:58.000 Oh, it's because you were.
00:12:00.000 You know, it's funny.
00:12:02.000 It's something that I wanted to talk about on this anyway, so we may as well get into it now the COVID thing.
00:12:06.000 You know, they weaponized scientific literacy when they said trust the science on the jab.
00:12:12.000 There's a lot of things worth talking about, but the whole war on science, like I get called a science denier a lot.
00:12:18.000 Fuck that.
00:12:19.000 I'm a science gatekeeper.
00:12:20.000 You don't get to call it science if it ain't science.
00:12:21.000 You stop at the door.
00:12:24.000 Science is a method, it's a way we get somewhere, it's not the end result.
00:12:28.000 Carl Sagan said, Science is more than a body of knowledge.
00:12:31.000 It's a way of thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe.
00:12:35.000 The average time for a peer review for a test on a vaccine is about 10 years.
00:12:40.000 You crank it out in a year and a half.
00:12:41.000 You haven't followed the proper fucking steps.
00:12:44.000 You haven't done science.
00:12:45.000 I'm not a science denier.
00:12:47.000 I'm not, I just do it right and come back.
00:12:50.000 It's not a coincidence that there was so much money involved.
00:12:50.000 Right.
00:12:53.000 We're not stupid.
00:12:54.000 We know why it wasn't done because there was no other methods to treat this disease.
00:12:54.000 No.
00:12:59.000 That's ridiculous.
00:13:00.000 It's not true.
00:13:00.000 That's why they got so mad at me.
00:13:02.000 That's where I was going to go with it.
00:13:04.000 Your doctor, they threw your personal physicians under the bus, and I don't know anything about that except for that I can't extrapolate.
00:13:11.000 I can guess and say that the guy that your personal physicians probably wants to keep that job and probably doesn't want to see you croak from COVID.
00:13:19.000 I mean, I could be wrong, but it seemed really just ridiculous that it was like, oh, they're just pushing a bunch of pseudoscience bullshit.
00:13:25.000 That you could look at it that way, and everyone was scared, and it's not their fault that they.
00:13:33.000 You know, they were presented with this pandemic that caused people a lot of anxiety.
00:13:37.000 What was shocking to me was how few people were willing to say, What did that guy do?
00:13:44.000 Instead of saying, Oh my God, you're anti science, you're promoting vaccine hesitancy, you didn't get vaccinated and you survived COVID and you're telling everybody how you did it, this is anti science.
00:13:54.000 But it happened.
00:13:55.000 Trevor Burrus And so they told you you were using a horse dewormer.
00:13:58.000 Trevor Burrus, Right.
00:13:58.000 Trevor Burrus, Well, that was completely insane.
00:14:00.000 But that's just proof of propaganda.
00:14:02.000 But even without that proof of propaganda, you also have this thing.
00:14:06.000 Like, if we are all trying to get through something and you see someone who is a very public person, I'm online all the time, I have millions of subscribers, right?
00:14:15.000 So I'm very scrutinized.
00:14:17.000 And everyone knows that I work out all the time.
00:14:21.000 Everyone knows I take vitamins.
00:14:22.000 I talk about it all the time cold plunges and fucking hyperbaric chambers and all this different shit.
00:14:27.000 Why wouldn't they say, oh, apparently, if you're really healthy and you do these things and for maybe whatever reason you can't get vaccinated, this works too?
00:14:39.000 There was never even a consideration, right?
00:14:41.000 Even let's assume the vaccine worked, which didn't, like, which let's assume that it prevented infection, which it didn't, prevented transmission, which it didn't, and didn't have any side effects, which is certainly not true.
00:14:54.000 So let's just pretend it did.
00:14:56.000 Even then, you have people that are allergic to some of the ingredients in the vaccine, right?
00:15:00.000 Aaron Rodgers was one of them.
00:15:03.000 And so if you tell those people, hey, I understand that this medicine that works, you can't take, but here is a guy who did something different.
00:15:13.000 And was fine.
00:15:14.000 Like, this is okay too.
00:15:16.000 Instead, they shut all that down, demonetized people, closed channels down.
00:15:19.000 It was bad.
00:15:21.000 It was interesting.
00:15:22.000 It was interesting.
00:15:24.000 It's funny watching it from hindsight because we can look at it now and see where everything's kind of settled afterwards to a degree.
00:15:32.000 But even still, like, for example, the Fauci hearings, nobody who was a big supporter of his that I know personally knew about that until I told them about it.
00:15:43.000 It was like it just didn't show up in their fucking radar.
00:15:44.000 They don't want to know about it.
00:15:46.000 Of course not.
00:15:47.000 I mean, nobody wants to think that they were completely wrong about that.
00:15:50.000 And that was one of the things they did whip everybody up into a fury.
00:15:54.000 Into a fury.
00:15:55.000 Yeah.
00:15:56.000 Look, when you're wrong about something, you got to say, well, I was wrong about that for sure.
00:16:01.000 That's really, honestly, part and parcel, not just to being an honest person, but especially if you're in science.
00:16:08.000 Yes.
00:16:08.000 You know, like your boy, your favorite archaeologist who's not a scientist, that Flint Dibble guy, he recently did a thing where he was making fun of me and he's like pulls up this thing talking about Easter Island and how Easter Island's earliest habitable layer has foodstuffs from South America and Asia.
00:16:25.000 So, like, as far back as people were hitting Easter Island that we're aware of, they were hitting both of these continents a thousand years ago.
00:16:32.000 So, I mentioned this.
00:16:33.000 Flint clips that.
00:16:34.000 He's like, this is bullshit.
00:16:35.000 This Dan's confidently wrong.
00:16:36.000 He's full of shit.
00:16:37.000 Five minutes later in this live stream, he catches that that is accurate.
00:16:41.000 Well, actually, there is evidence of contact between the two, but he never mentions that it was on Easter Island.
00:16:46.000 He saves his face rather than.
00:16:49.000 I mean, that's not like a big surprise thing, but the point is that if you're.
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00:17:34.000 This is what I also think.
00:17:36.000 I think there's all this personal stuff that goes on with these people that is so completely unnecessary.
00:17:41.000 I think the only reason why archaeologists get dismissed by these - whatever you would call yourself - amateur - Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.
00:17:53.000 Interested amateurs.
00:17:53.000 Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.
00:17:54.000 Interested amateurs in all things life and looking at the data and looking at the science of it.
00:18:00.000 You're really good at it.
00:18:01.000 Well, thank you.
00:18:01.000 I appreciate that.
00:18:02.000 That should be an asset.
00:18:03.000 That's all that should be.
00:18:04.000 That should be an asset to the archaeologists.
00:18:06.000 And if you think they're wrong about something, you should talk to them.
00:18:10.000 Now, I think when he had that conversation with Graham, I think that's the right way to do it.
00:18:15.000 I don't think necessarily he did it in good faith, and I think he wanted to push a certain narrative.
00:18:21.000 And one of the narratives was the thing that disturbed me the most is he was trying to label Graham as racist for proposing these theories that there's an advanced civilization that existed before the one that we currently see.
00:18:33.000 I don't think that can be racist, it's human beings.
00:18:35.000 It's not just human beings.
00:18:38.000 It's human beings specifically that live in the very area where those human beings live.
00:18:41.000 So it's their ancestors.
00:18:43.000 So the ancestors of Africans are the ones who built the pyramids, right?
00:18:46.000 Whoever the fuck they were, whether they were the people of 2,500 BC or whether it was even earlier than that, whatever it was.
00:18:54.000 It was the people that live right there, the same people.
00:18:56.000 So this is crazy.
00:18:57.000 Well, the whole thing is this is what's really.
00:19:00.000 Atlantis.
00:19:00.000 Well, they say you assume that Atlanteans were white, ergo, it's only the brown people buildings that you ask questions about.
00:19:07.000 You're not asking questions about the Colosseum.
00:19:08.000 It's like, okay, well, the Colosseum has written records.
00:19:10.000 So, I know why the Colosseum was built, when it was built, the Parthenon, same thing.
00:19:14.000 But you know what I don't know about that was built by white people supposedly?
00:19:17.000 Baalbek.
00:19:18.000 Baalbek was supposedly built by Romans.
00:19:20.000 We're all doing it there too.
00:19:22.000 It has nothing to do with color.
00:19:23.000 It has everything to do with written records.
00:19:25.000 One of my favorite things to throw out in the book Baalbek has no written records of the trilogy stuff.
00:19:25.000 They ignore this.
00:19:30.000 Not of the trilogy stuff.
00:19:31.000 Of the big stuff, exactly.
00:19:32.000 And how do you not write that down?
00:19:34.000 You wrote everything.
00:19:35.000 You wrote everything.
00:19:36.000 The Romans wrote everything down.
00:19:37.000 They had scribes.
00:19:39.000 Their job was to document everything.
00:19:41.000 They were very concentrated on history.
00:19:43.000 Yeah, we went off about this when me and Jimmy Corsetti were here.
00:19:43.000 Yeah.
00:19:47.000 Yes.
00:19:47.000 Talking about the Roman foot.
00:19:49.000 About, like, the Roman foot.
00:19:51.000 Well, if Jimmy's right, Atlantis was in sub Saharan Africa.
00:19:55.000 It's Africans.
00:19:56.000 Well, I think, honestly, that I think Atlantis is kind of a catch all term for a lost civilization that was globe spanning.
00:20:04.000 And, like, they would call us 10,000 years from now, they would just lump us in with the damn French and call us the electronic civilization.
00:20:04.000 Yeah.
00:20:11.000 And with the exception of GSP, I don't want to be associated with the damn French.
00:20:16.000 No.
00:20:17.000 I'm kidding.
00:20:18.000 There's a lot of dope French people.
00:20:19.000 I love Montreal.
00:20:21.000 I love Montreal.
00:20:21.000 Speaking of, GSP is going to be at that event.
00:20:25.000 He's the best.
00:20:25.000 Oh, is he?
00:20:25.000 Yes.
00:20:26.000 I love that he's doing a podcast.
00:20:27.000 He's a very fascinated guy.
00:20:29.000 He's fascinated and curious about so many things, and he's kind and open minded and he's really intelligent.
00:20:35.000 He is so odd.
00:20:38.000 Like, when people meet him, and I go, Do you know who that is?
00:20:41.000 And they go, No.
00:20:42.000 So he's like a really nice guy.
00:20:43.000 I'm like, That is one of the greatest cage fighters that ever lived.
00:20:46.000 They're like, No way.
00:20:48.000 I go, One of the all time greats, if not the all time great.
00:20:51.000 I think John Jones is an all time great.
00:20:52.000 But I think he's in the conversation.
00:20:54.000 Like, George is in the conversation of one of the greatest that's ever done it.
00:20:58.000 Meanwhile, he's the sweetest, nicest guy.
00:21:00.000 Dude, I made a comment once to him on Instagram where he was like doing these leg workouts, and I was like, My legs will never look like that because I'm sitting on a computer all day smoking weed and reading.
00:21:10.000 And he goes, I trade my legs for your brain any day.
00:21:13.000 And I'm just like, Shut the fuck up.
00:21:15.000 Your legs made you millions.
00:21:16.000 What the hell are you talking about, boy?
00:21:19.000 Well, everybody wants what they don't have, you know?
00:21:22.000 He's going to have me on his pod here on the 17th, too.
00:21:24.000 Oh, cool.
00:21:25.000 Because he's going to be here the 16th or 18th or that thing at the end of the year.
00:21:28.000 Yeah, tell everybody this thing that you're doing.
00:21:31.000 Here at the Quest for Ancient Civilizations Conference, October 16th through 18th at the ACL Live here in Austin, Texas, will be me, Randall Carlson, Bass Forge, you just had him on here, Bass Forge, and a few other guys.
00:21:46.000 Yeah, this thing.
00:21:47.000 It's got a bunch of AI.
00:21:48.000 See the AI generated Amish dude in the middle there?
00:21:50.000 Look at all the pseudoscience on one picture.
00:21:53.000 I love it.
00:21:54.000 Oh, man.
00:21:55.000 Yeah.
00:21:56.000 It's just like Duncan.
00:21:57.000 It's going to be up there.
00:21:58.000 Oh, yeah.
00:21:59.000 That doesn't look like Duncan at all.
00:22:00.000 That's like Duncan on TRT.
00:22:02.000 But Kurt and Duncan are going to be there, the Mystery Boys.
00:22:04.000 Those guys will be, those guys are always.
00:22:05.000 You hear Randall Carlson has a rap song out now?
00:22:08.000 Yes, yes.
00:22:09.000 Not Randall, I'm sorry, Billy.
00:22:10.000 Billy Cole.
00:22:11.000 Randall, I didn't know what he released.
00:22:13.000 I could put one out together.
00:22:15.000 Randall has a rap song.
00:22:16.000 My brain got scrambled.
00:22:17.000 Randall has a rap song?
00:22:18.000 When we were in Sedona, Arizona, we and him were sharing an Airbnb, and he wrote it in like the late 80s.
00:22:23.000 He was spitting bars at me over breakfast.
00:22:25.000 I was just going, God fucking damn, this was not on my bingo card.
00:22:28.000 Whoa.
00:22:29.000 Randall Carlson rapping at me for breakfast.
00:22:31.000 Randall Carlson is a hip hop head?
00:22:33.000 From the late 80s.
00:22:34.000 How do I not know that?
00:22:38.000 I should look it up or not.
00:22:39.000 Poor Jamie Bull the fuck away over here.
00:22:41.000 Randall Carlson hip hop, please.
00:22:43.000 Put that into perplexity.
00:22:45.000 Ask our AI sponsor, Perplexity, what Randall Carlson's history in hip hop is.
00:22:50.000 That would be dope watching fucking Santa Claus spitting bars like that.
00:22:54.000 I'm telling you, man.
00:22:56.000 I was still drinking coffee and nursing my morning bowl, and I was like, well, holy shit.
00:23:00.000 Is this the real world?
00:23:02.000 Yeah, crazy.
00:23:04.000 But yeah, that's going to be a Fun thing.
00:23:05.000 GSP is going to be there now that he just got officially 100% confirmed about an hour ago.
00:23:10.000 That's fantastic.
00:23:11.000 But yeah, that's going to be a lot of fun.
00:23:14.000 But I'm going to be talking a lot.
00:23:16.000 Tickets are available for that.
00:23:17.000 You can get them online.
00:23:18.000 Yeah, tickets are available.
00:23:19.000 You can get them online.
00:23:20.000 The Quest for Ancient Civilization.
00:23:21.000 Thanks.
00:23:23.000 Quest for Ancient Civilizations.
00:23:25.000 If you go to my YouTube, there'll be stuff on there.
00:23:27.000 Yeah, if you look for Quest for Ancient Civilizations, you'll have no trouble finding it.
00:23:31.000 So this conference is available online.
00:23:34.000 People can get tickets.
00:23:35.000 Looks like a dope lineup.
00:23:36.000 And it's all the stuff that I love to talk about.
00:23:38.000 Yeah.
00:23:38.000 So.
00:23:40.000 I jokingly called it the Rogan Trinity when we got GSP.
00:23:43.000 We've got the pyramids.
00:23:44.000 We've got the comedy.
00:23:45.000 We've got the ass whooping.
00:23:46.000 It all free.
00:23:48.000 So, these people, let's go back to this Smithsonian thing, these people with their altered heads.
00:23:54.000 Is it your suspicion that they were altering their heads to try to appear like people that were already here, like the Peruvian skulls?
00:24:03.000 No, before I thought, oh, go ahead, sorry.
00:24:05.000 No, go ahead.
00:24:06.000 Before I thought that, because there are skulls in China that were originally mistaken for Cro Magnon and Neanderthal and stuff, and now they say they're artificially modified by people.
00:24:16.000 But no, I think, could you pull up?
00:24:18.000 The image for Chiari malformation.
00:24:20.000 It's got two heads with one circled, like two CAT scans.
00:24:24.000 When I was talking about the brain falling down into the thing, they believe that this is a problem from Neanderthal andor Denisovan mingling with us.
00:24:31.000 Right.
00:24:32.000 Skull too small, brain too big.
00:24:34.000 So now if you have this consistent problem, you've always got pressure on the brain.
00:24:39.000 See how it pops down there?
00:24:40.000 You've always got this pressure on the brain.
00:24:43.000 Now imagine if you might drill holes in your head.
00:24:47.000 Like you've seen all the truncation that's happened down there.
00:24:49.000 There's an image of that.
00:24:50.000 Yep.
00:24:51.000 Then, or you might elongate the back of the skull every generation so that your kids don't have the same fucking headaches grandpa did.
00:25:01.000 And so it becomes a thing.
00:25:02.000 And this is why, if you check out South America, Paracus is insane this way.
00:25:06.000 They have so many things the polydactyly, the elongated skulls, the trephination.
00:25:13.000 There's a thing, could you pull up the Inca bone one?
00:25:15.000 Where your skulls melt, the plates in the skull melt in the back.
00:25:18.000 If there is stress or a lack of equilibrium, you'll end up what they call fermion bones.
00:25:24.000 One's in the back.
00:25:25.000 Or wormian bones.
00:25:26.000 The ones in the back are so pronounced.
00:25:29.000 These are called Inca bones because they happen mostly in Inca territory.
00:25:33.000 You also see it at Easter Island, the Pacific Northwest, and in Asia.
00:25:37.000 But this part of the skull right there, there's one that's got a Neanderthal that shows this too.
00:25:43.000 Neanderthals had this same issue.
00:25:45.000 There's another one, and there's an island.
00:25:48.000 Oh, Jesus.
00:25:51.000 But yeah, the sorry, there's one that's got my own head right now.
00:25:55.000 There's one with white text at the bottom, Jamie, sorry.
00:25:58.000 But yeah, Neanderthal had it.
00:26:00.000 And it's a again, it's from a lack of equilibrium.
00:26:03.000 They say it's from the brain and the skull not quite fitting.
00:26:06.000 That makes sense.
00:26:07.000 I think in South America, I think that they were mingling different bloodlines, the same as you can look at a guy that plays Reacher and tell that he's probably got more Neanderthal in him than I do.
00:26:17.000 And they would mingle these bloodlines and then they would get all kinds of different yeah, there's a Neanderthal one.
00:26:23.000 They would get all kinds of different genetic variations.
00:26:27.000 And I think some of these were bad, but some of them were honored.
00:26:30.000 Like you've seen the Jaguar people of the Olmec.
00:26:33.000 Okay.
00:26:34.000 Have you ever seen?
00:26:35.000 Could you pull up the dental dysplasia one, the kid with the two fangs?
00:26:39.000 There's dental things.
00:26:40.000 It'll make you grow fangs as a child.
00:26:42.000 And it also, quite often, will give you a hair lip.
00:26:45.000 Jaguar?
00:26:47.000 Whoa.
00:26:48.000 And so, like, if you look, yeah.
00:26:53.000 And so, like.
00:26:54.000 What do you think that's from?
00:26:56.000 Again, this is from.
00:26:57.000 Is that some ancient shit where people used to have teeth like that?
00:27:00.000 It's DNA.
00:27:02.000 Again, where we cross mingle DNA, there should be one.
00:27:05.000 Trevor Burrus, right there about the mouths with the paper.
00:27:08.000 Sorry, I'll have to pull up the exact number.
00:27:10.000 Trevor Burrus, right, but those teeth, that's not in any other human primate that we've ever found.
00:27:15.000 It happens in ours.
00:27:15.000 Trevor Burrus, no.
00:27:16.000 Trevor Burrus, so it's just a malformation.
00:27:18.000 A malformation.
00:27:19.000 We have a lot of that, like the.
00:27:21.000 Some people just keep growing teeth, right?
00:27:23.000 Trevor Burrus, right.
00:27:24.000 Or you get different bones in the head, different shapes of the skull.
00:27:29.000 I've seen skulls, ancient skulls with rows of teeth.
00:27:32.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:27:33.000 Some of those, like, they don't know for sure how many of those are legit, but the.
00:27:40.000 There's definitely no question that these things happen.
00:27:43.000 That's again, the real problem with this is it becomes a cover up.
00:27:46.000 Like a little bit ago, I mentioned that they were all these elongated skulls in the Pacific Northwest.
00:27:52.000 Mount Coffin in Longview, Washington, when Colonel Charles Wilkes or Lieutenant Charles Wilkes, whose father happened to be a member of the Skull and Bone Society in England, when he got to Longview, Washington, he saw Mount Coffin, this place where they had these above ground burials, and there were 3,000 of them.
00:28:10.000 All of them supposedly would have had elongated skulls because, again, if you don't have an elongated skull in that neck of the woods, you weren't.
00:28:16.000 A freeborn person, and this was, he had to be noble to be buried there.
00:28:20.000 3,000 elongated skulls.
00:28:21.000 When he left, this campfire actually burnt the place down.
00:28:25.000 All those skulls disappeared.
00:28:27.000 That image that Jamie skipped past a little bit goes, just a dude sitting on a pile of bones.
00:28:32.000 This is an Indian burial ground, and they were just looting the things and selling them left and right.
00:28:37.000 Where do you think those things are?
00:28:39.000 In people's hands.
00:28:40.000 Well, I've never heard of a story of a person having an elongated skull in their private collection.
00:28:44.000 I have a couple of people that have commented on my videos saying, like, I saw one at so and so's house in 1978, but But I'll give you the smoking gun.
00:28:57.000 It's funny you brought up Rockefeller in the 30s when Tello down in Paracas starts putting out, hey, we've got these elongated skulls down there and I need money.
00:29:06.000 He was getting $300 a year to take care of them.
00:29:09.000 Rockefeller gets wind and history says flat out he took an unexpected trip to Peru.
00:29:14.000 He dropped three grand and walked back with four bundles.
00:29:18.000 Now, according to.
00:29:19.000 That's it, three grand?
00:29:21.000 And four grave bundles.
00:29:21.000 Yeah.
00:29:23.000 That's 10 times what Tello was getting a year.
00:29:25.000 10 times what the guy was getting a year to take care of all of them.
00:29:27.000 He coughs up four out of like 300 bundles.
00:29:29.000 Now, those four bundles were supposedly displayed at the Met, supposedly displayed at the National History Museum in New York.
00:29:35.000 No photos exist, no drawings exist.
00:29:37.000 They may have been repatriated.
00:29:39.000 They may not have been repatriated.
00:29:41.000 Depends on who you ask.
00:29:42.000 The AI will run you in a damn circle going with it.
00:29:45.000 At the end of the day, we don't know which four they look like, but I can tell you this much.
00:29:51.000 There's about 300 of those bundles to pick.
00:29:53.000 From do you think Rockefeller if one of them had great big old devil horns and a third eye, do you think Rockefeller left it or took it with him?
00:29:59.000 Did fucking no brainer, right?
00:30:01.000 Right, so the best of the best always gone.
00:30:04.000 And as soon as Rockefeller found out that he couldn't go get the ones in the Pacific Northwest anymore, but there was some somewhere else, he ran there.
00:30:10.000 And right now, you sent me the video just a little bit ago, but this is more, they're these skulls are disappearing off the shelves in the museums right now, yeah, right?
00:30:19.000 As we speak, this cover up, there's this cover up, you've I'm sure you've seen the map.
00:30:25.000 A hundred years ago, they drew a map of artificial cranial deformation, and then like 10 years ago, they made another one, both of these on peer reviewed papers.
00:30:34.000 The older map has more information.
00:30:35.000 There's more areas.
00:30:37.000 They've erased.
00:30:38.000 The island of Nui had it.
00:30:41.000 Ancient Hawaiian people had about 8.9 percent of them that they dig up had elongated skulls.
00:30:46.000 Nobody fucking talks about that.
00:30:47.000 Nobody knows about it.
00:30:48.000 If you want to go look at it, the answer is no.
00:30:49.000 When you say ancient, like what year?
00:30:51.000 Not sure, but it's when they dig them up and they start doing it at prehistoric, they call it, but prehistoric in Hawaii, maybe a thousand years ago.
00:30:58.000 Wow.
00:30:59.000 So this is all over the world.
00:31:02.000 Well, yeah.
00:31:02.000 People are doing that.
00:31:03.000 And what you're saying about the brain size and the base of the brain completely makes sense.
00:31:08.000 Thank you.
00:31:09.000 I mean, to me, it seems like the most smoke.
00:31:11.000 And not only does a smoking gun, it's like it coincides with human evolution because what would be.
00:31:15.000 Imagine you've got a Neanderthal, a Homo sapien, they're talking to each other, trying to figure out a problem, and they both walk away from that with like mad respect for the other person's ability to see what they don't.
00:31:28.000 Wouldn't they want to mingle that?
00:31:30.000 So, like, Jamie, could you pull that picture that I got of that family tree?
00:31:36.000 God of the family tree.
00:31:39.000 It's just, it's like an empty blank white family tree.
00:31:42.000 And then right after, it's the, like, imagine if you were trying to make a symbol to tell everybody, hey, this is where we mingle bloodlines.
00:31:48.000 So, like, this is a standard kind of thing, right?
00:31:51.000 And could you pull up that candelabra next?
00:31:53.000 It should be like, sorry.
00:31:55.000 I know where it is.
00:31:58.000 Hold on, sorry.
00:31:59.000 If that same symbol, basically, with the candelabra of the Andes, you've seen that, right?
00:32:05.000 The candelabra of the Andes is visible 12 miles out to sea, okay?
00:32:12.000 If you think, we're trying to draw the mingling of bloodlines, and here's a symbol of where we're doing it.
00:32:21.000 Fucking doesn't it?
00:32:22.000 I mean, does that kind of look uncanny?
00:32:24.000 And then, can you pull up that Paracas textile, Jamie?
00:32:26.000 This one, even more.
00:32:27.000 This is when they buried people in Paracas.
00:32:31.000 They'd put them in these textiles, and this one textile, look at that back there.
00:32:36.000 Look at what that.
00:32:37.000 Try to translate that and keep in mind what I was just telling you.
00:32:40.000 Okay, it looks like a monkey on either side.
00:32:44.000 And then a person in the middle.
00:32:45.000 And it looks like there's some sort of a transference of something through the top of their heads.
00:32:51.000 Well, that's upside down.
00:32:52.000 Yeah, that's upside down.
00:32:54.000 Well, first of all, it looks like they did DMT.
00:32:57.000 Well, clearly.
00:32:58.000 It looks like they did DMT.
00:32:59.000 There's hours of ayahuasca right there, buddy.
00:33:01.000 100% they were on DMT.
00:33:04.000 But that does look like two monkeys, right?
00:33:06.000 It looks like they have tails, doesn't it?
00:33:08.000 Yeah, it does.
00:33:10.000 And then the one in the middle looks like the bad motherfucker.
00:33:12.000 That's the boss.
00:33:13.000 That's pregnant.
00:33:14.000 I've met that guy before.
00:33:16.000 Yeah.
00:33:16.000 Yeah.
00:33:17.000 I have.
00:33:17.000 I met that guy.
00:33:18.000 I met that guy over there.
00:33:20.000 But you see that?
00:33:21.000 Notice in the middle of the thing, he's got something in his tummy.
00:33:24.000 Uh huh.
00:33:26.000 I mean, if you think about the same line of reasoning, we're mixing different bloodlines to make something more.
00:33:31.000 That image kind of seems to.
00:33:34.000 Also, they always have three fingers and three toes, and then you get to the tridactyl mummies.
00:33:40.000 I do not.
00:33:41.000 Yeah, look at the monkeys.
00:33:42.000 I don't know what to think about the tridactyl mummies.
00:33:45.000 Neither do I.
00:33:46.000 It's honestly like.
00:33:48.000 I'm of the opinion now that I think that the genetic stuff they were doing in South America down in Peru created a lot of artificial, created a lot of natural weird problems.
00:33:59.000 Some of them would be like misshapen skulls, and then I think they would wrap the heads to artificially modify them.
00:34:06.000 I think that's why down there they get so crazy looking is because it's a combination of genetics and of artificially playing with it.
00:34:13.000 In the rest of the world, they don't get that coney.
00:34:16.000 So do you think maybe they had like a bulbous, roundish head?
00:34:19.000 Extra large because there's those skulls as well that seem to be not deformed, but they do have a larger brain capacity.
00:34:25.000 Yeah.
00:34:25.000 The ones that are bulbous in the back, those are that's the most common type of cranial deformation that you see.
00:34:32.000 It's what Concomly's skull, the chief that I was showing you.
00:34:35.000 It's.
00:34:36.000 Can you pull that one up, please, Jamie?
00:34:39.000 So bulbous in the back, bulbous.
00:34:41.000 Yeah.
00:34:41.000 That's huge.
00:34:42.000 And that again, that would keep it.
00:34:42.000 Yeah.
00:34:44.000 And now notice, even back 100 years ago, that picture that he was just showing, the other photograph.
00:34:48.000 Why isn't his skull elongated?
00:34:52.000 Well, it's hard to tell because he's looking straight on.
00:34:55.000 It could be.
00:34:56.000 All of the artistic work of him is lacking that for some reason.
00:35:00.000 Right, but couldn't you see that if some.
00:35:04.000 Well, that one looks pretty elongated.
00:35:05.000 God, go back to that.
00:35:08.000 That's crazy.
00:35:08.000 Imagine meeting those dudes.
00:35:09.000 You'd be like, yo, what are you?
00:35:11.000 And look, they're doing it to the baby right there.
00:35:16.000 Oh, the poor kid.
00:35:16.000 Imagine being a baby.
00:35:18.000 You're fucking strapped into that thing.
00:35:20.000 Oh, man.
00:35:21.000 Dave's.
00:35:21.000 In this book here, it quotes from a book called A Story that used to be required reading up where I live.
00:35:27.000 Reading up where I live, and the guy that witnessed one of these kids being their head binding, it said that their eyes bulged out of their skull like a mouse caught in a trap.
00:35:37.000 Oh my God.
00:35:38.000 So when you think about that, honestly, but if your kid was going to have migraines incessantly for the rest of their life, you might just do that anyway.
00:35:45.000 Yeah, I guess they had to do it if you're right.
00:35:47.000 If you're right about the base of the brain, which kind of tracks.
00:35:51.000 But to me, the capacity of the skulls being so much larger in some of the Peruvian skulls is weird.
00:36:00.000 It is.
00:36:00.000 It's a funny one, too, because these guys will argue back and forth.
00:36:04.000 You'll get a lot of skeptics that say there is no larger capacity, but the guys that measure it claim that there is, and the other guys that measure it claim it's.
00:36:12.000 Well, that one that we always show all the time, Jamie, that one that I'm really fascinated by, that one image, it's so big.
00:36:19.000 It's so big.
00:36:19.000 It's so crazy.
00:36:20.000 You're looking at it and you're like, what is that?
00:36:22.000 Imagine meeting that guy.
00:36:24.000 You would be freaked out.
00:36:26.000 Like, that would not look at all like a person.
00:36:29.000 You would think, oh my God, this guy's from another planet.
00:36:30.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:36:32.000 And then there's the sagittal suture thing.
00:36:35.000 That some of them don't have the sagittal suture that we have.
00:36:38.000 Yeah.
00:36:38.000 That's, yeah, again, these papers.
00:36:42.000 Look at that head.
00:36:43.000 Look at that head, man.
00:36:44.000 Also, look at the size of the eye sockets.
00:36:47.000 Yeah.
00:36:48.000 The eye sockets are fucking huge.
00:36:50.000 That person must have insane eyeballs.
00:36:53.000 Imagine what their eyes would look like when they're looking at you.
00:36:56.000 I mean, how much bigger is that than a human's eye socket?
00:36:59.000 It's so much bigger.
00:37:01.000 That must have been a wild looking dude.
00:37:04.000 Imagine bringing that guy over your house for a party.
00:37:05.000 Yeah.
00:37:06.000 Your friends be like, yo, who's the guy who keeps reading everybody's mind?
00:37:11.000 I don't do shit.
00:37:12.000 I'm not playing, if you're playing trivia, he's on my team.
00:37:14.000 That guy's the freakiest one, man.
00:37:16.000 The one on the left.
00:37:17.000 But what you're saying might be accurate, right?
00:37:20.000 That that might have been a rounded thing that was manipulated to be a flattened thing.
00:37:25.000 Yeah, I think that it was partially natural.
00:37:29.000 Like even the sagittal suture, this is one of the things they find with Denisovan and Neanderthal DNA.
00:37:36.000 That one on the right, is that real?
00:37:38.000 Yeah.
00:37:39.000 Is that AI?
00:37:39.000 Is that horseshit?
00:37:41.000 That's fucking real?
00:37:43.000 Come on, man.
00:37:44.000 What are we looking at?
00:37:47.000 And someone stole that.
00:37:48.000 Someone's got that in their fucking Rhode Island mansion.
00:37:51.000 Of course.
00:37:51.000 You know those Bronze Age or Gilded Age mansions that they haven't.
00:37:56.000 Very weird, man.
00:37:57.000 I got into a YouTube rabbit hole the other day of Gilded Age mansions in Newport, Rhode Island, where all these fucking super rich, creepy people set up their castles.
00:38:10.000 It's nuts, man.
00:38:11.000 I guarantee if you get in the room, there's a fucking glass box, and inside of it, there's one of these skulls.
00:38:16.000 It looks like it's from another planet.
00:38:18.000 But yeah, and it's so weird to me that they're hiding all this.
00:38:22.000 Somebody's hiding all that.
00:38:24.000 Well, it's maybe not just somebody, but there's definitely money behind it because it happens so fast.
00:38:32.000 I will link an article in a video, and it'll be dead in two weeks, and I'll have to go fucking fight.
00:38:40.000 I've got three different ways to.
00:38:42.000 Find this one thing right now, and I've downloaded it because it just keeps disappearing.
00:38:45.000 It talks about Rockefeller buying the skulls.
00:38:48.000 Is someone scrubbing the internet of the Rockefeller scub skulls?
00:38:52.000 It still shows up.
00:38:55.000 Do you think it's because someone has them and they're like, shut the fuck up?
00:38:57.000 I'm 100% those skulls.
00:38:58.000 History says that he either repatriated them or he left them in the museum.
00:39:03.000 You ask, well, what's the catalog numbers?
00:39:06.000 Oh, well, there are no catalog numbers for human remains.
00:39:08.000 Okay, fuck you.
00:39:09.000 I know better than that.
00:39:10.000 You.
00:39:11.000 I know better than that.
00:39:12.000 It's and the ultimate what really gets me is this they gave you the same excuse for Papua New Guinea as they do for China, as they do for Easter Island, as they do for Hawaii, as they do for the Pacific Northwest, as they do for Paracas.
00:39:26.000 Well, it's about protecting the indigenous people's beliefs, and they don't want you to have their skulls because then that would be like you have part of their souls.
00:39:36.000 It's like, okay, I can understand that some of them might think this way, but we got Mennonites in Pennsylvania.
00:39:43.000 That don't believe that, and they're sitting right next door to their friends that do believe that.
00:39:47.000 How am I supposed to accept that the entire Pacific Rim fucking all falls into line?
00:39:52.000 We can't get them to do that same shit in Pennsylvania?
00:39:54.000 I don't buy it.
00:39:55.000 This is a European thing.
00:39:59.000 This isn't an Islander thing.
00:40:00.000 This isn't a Polynesian thing that's covering these things up.
00:40:02.000 These people are perfectly content to have their skulls displayed as far as we can tell, but it's always some white dude going, oh, we gotta hide those fucking skulls because we got a peasy.
00:40:14.000 At the end of the day, please put all your shit in the museum so that we can keep a good eye on it for you.
00:40:20.000 Can I see it?
00:40:20.000 Fuck you.
00:40:21.000 It's gone.
00:40:23.000 Fuck you.
00:40:23.000 It's gone.
00:40:24.000 Try to find this online.
00:40:26.000 You'll find an image that says no image available that has a title, and that's it.
00:40:31.000 There was one last I looked, there was one copy that was in a library in Malta.
00:40:37.000 And you really think that's because someone's in possession of this stuff and they're trying to squash it?
00:40:41.000 I think that there's a narrative there that people don't want pushed.
00:40:44.000 I think that it might have something to do with.
00:40:47.000 I mean, let's be honest, what I'm talking about when you start talking about mingling different bloodlines for different traits, this does sound awfully eugenics, right?
00:40:55.000 This does sound like it's dipping your toes into this kind of politically incorrect stuff.
00:41:00.000 But how is it eugenics if people just interbred?
00:41:02.000 There was a program in Paracas.
00:41:05.000 Really?
00:41:06.000 Hey, can you pull up one of the pictures of the person presenting the.
00:41:09.000 When they would bring their jaguar babies, right?
00:41:14.000 The jaguar people in the Olmec society had the hare lip and the things like I was showing.
00:41:19.000 There's more than one.
00:41:21.000 Statue of them presenting them.
00:41:22.000 Here you go.
00:41:23.000 Ta da.
00:41:24.000 Here's my baby.
00:41:25.000 This baby's all fucking mutilated, not like me.
00:41:28.000 Ta da.
00:41:28.000 Here you go.
00:41:29.000 That baby doesn't look mutilated, though.
00:41:31.000 That's not a very good image, but yeah.
00:41:33.000 Is there any.
00:41:34.000 That one doesn't look.
00:41:35.000 That one looks normal.
00:41:36.000 It just looks like a mother with a baby.
00:41:38.000 If you look at the top down, both of those, they have hair lips.
00:41:41.000 And they're missing the teeth.
00:41:43.000 They are jaguar babies.
00:41:44.000 Like that one.
00:41:45.000 That last image.
00:41:47.000 Yeah.
00:41:48.000 That's a trophy skull.
00:41:50.000 The only trophy skull known with a cleft lip.
00:41:54.000 If you were born with a cleft lip, even the Spanish recorded, if you were born with a cleft lip to their people, they would put you in a temple as part of the workers.
00:42:02.000 You were considered holy.
00:42:03.000 Six fingers was considered holy.
00:42:05.000 Deformations were considered holy.
00:42:07.000 And this trophy skull, what do you mean by that?
00:42:12.000 I mean that this is like a mummified skull with a hole drilled in it.
00:42:15.000 I wish I could get a real image, but this is the only one that exists.
00:42:18.000 And so somebody has that somewhere in the museum?
00:42:19.000 Or somewhere, yeah.
00:42:20.000 Somewhere.
00:42:20.000 But yeah, there's a bunch of these trophy skulls that they kept down in South America.
00:42:26.000 They would wear skulls on their belt.
00:42:28.000 They didn't shrink them or nothing.
00:42:30.000 They just drill a hole right in the fucking thing and hang it right on their belt.
00:42:34.000 Ooh.
00:42:34.000 Yeah, huh?
00:42:34.000 But that one was especially prized because that was a noble.
00:42:37.000 And you're walking around with a noble person's skull hanging from your belt?
00:42:41.000 That's how they would wear them?
00:42:43.000 I'm a badass.
00:42:43.000 Wow.
00:42:43.000 Yeah, that part of the world was never.
00:42:46.000 So you think there's a potential that they were breeding people specifically?
00:42:50.000 Yeah, I think that they would like pick bloodlines and be like, you know what?
00:42:57.000 You look more like, and you look more like, and you need to have a baby together.
00:43:01.000 And then here's the baby.
00:43:02.000 Oh, we got a good one.
00:43:04.000 It's a Jaguar.
00:43:06.000 We got a good one.
00:43:06.000 It's a jaguar.
00:43:08.000 So, what do you think the whole tridactyl thing is?
00:43:11.000 I think some of the tridactyl mummies look fake as fuck to me, just to be clear.
00:43:14.000 The early, the tiny ones.
00:43:16.000 Yeah, the ones that look like cake.
00:43:18.000 But the ones that they do the CAT scans of, you're like, wow.
00:43:23.000 And then you find out that they're like at least 1,200 years old.
00:43:26.000 You're like, are you telling me that 1,200 years ago someone created this?
00:43:30.000 I think DNA would be a good way to get into that to begin with.
00:43:34.000 I know.
00:43:35.000 Yeah.
00:43:36.000 I mean, it's just weird that this is all going on and we don't have definitive answers.
00:43:40.000 And there's not also like a mad rush among scientists to discover.
00:43:44.000 Are these two trophy skulls?
00:43:46.000 Yeah.
00:43:47.000 Oh, this one just has a drill hole in the forehead.
00:43:50.000 That's how they did it.
00:43:51.000 They fucking clown her out.
00:43:52.000 With the skin on it and the hair.
00:43:55.000 So this person is just walking around with someone's head wrapped around their waist.
00:43:59.000 The description I just read said they were most, I mean, the ones that they found were young women, like 13 to 16 years old.
00:44:06.000 Oh, yeah.
00:44:07.000 But I don't know if that's what these are.
00:44:09.000 Wow.
00:44:09.000 One of them looks like a woman.
00:44:10.000 The one on the right looks like a woman.
00:44:13.000 Kind of looks like a lass.
00:44:14.000 That's so crazy.
00:44:18.000 That's where things get so weird when you go back and you realize that entire cultures engaged in ritual sacrifice at a mass scale, like what the Aztecs did.
00:44:32.000 They did wild mass sacrifice.
00:44:35.000 And their culture was so, it involved sacrifice so much that they would go out.
00:44:41.000 And get other people.
00:44:43.000 And that's one of the reasons why Cortez was able to group all these other people to attack the Aztecs.
00:44:48.000 Like, these motherfuckers have been killing us ritually forever.
00:44:52.000 Yeah, we're happy to kick these guys' ass.
00:44:54.000 Oh, wait, you're not going to help us out afterwards?
00:44:57.000 Oh, like one of my favorite stories about that afterwards is they're like, okay, we need all you guys to bring all your codices here so that we can put them on these shelves.
00:45:05.000 And so, like, all these Mesoamerican codices show up, and the Spanish friar is like, torch.
00:45:10.000 Fuck you, watch them all burn.
00:45:12.000 Yeah.
00:45:13.000 And there's like a handful left that exist now.
00:45:15.000 I know.
00:45:15.000 They just bought, it was like three years ago, they bought those ones from a family in Mexico that had had them for like 500 years.
00:45:21.000 And one of them talks about the building of Teotihuacan.
00:45:24.000 Whoa.
00:45:25.000 And the Mexican government bought it for like 250 grand.
00:45:27.000 It was like, I was telling Matt Bell, and Matt Bell's like, that's fucking nothing.
00:45:31.000 Is that a dope trophy skull?
00:45:32.000 Some of these are fucking sick.
00:45:34.000 Ancestor Chief Skull.
00:45:35.000 Wow.
00:45:36.000 Hold on though.
00:45:37.000 Wait till I get to some of these down here.
00:45:38.000 Holy shit.
00:45:41.000 So now imagine if this is.
00:45:43.000 These are crazy.
00:45:44.000 Oh, man.
00:45:44.000 Are you sure they aren't from Hellraiser?
00:45:46.000 This is like straight out of the Predator.
00:45:47.000 Yeah.
00:45:48.000 So these were found in Asia?
00:45:49.000 Yeah.
00:45:50.000 What?
00:45:50.000 My dear God.
00:45:51.000 I don't.
00:45:52.000 Some of this looks almost like this is like from out of a movie scene.
00:45:55.000 Well, they've glued like tusks onto some of the skulls.
00:45:57.000 What the hell is that?
00:45:59.000 Whoa.
00:46:01.000 Go back up a little bit.
00:46:03.000 Well, that looked like something I've worn out.
00:46:04.000 Yeah, that one on the right with the horn coming out of his nose.
00:46:07.000 What the fuck?
00:46:08.000 Human child trophy skull.
00:46:10.000 Human child trophy skull.
00:46:12.000 What the fuck, man?
00:46:15.000 How did I never hear about this before?
00:46:18.000 How about the one with the headsets on?
00:46:19.000 That one's got headphones on.
00:46:21.000 Sets, I almost.
00:46:25.000 What the fuck, man?
00:46:27.000 Why does it say info, email?
00:46:28.000 Are you selling these?
00:46:29.000 Yeah, I mean, I stumbled across something here.
00:46:32.000 It does say art.
00:46:33.000 Art, tribal art Asia, which sounds weird shit.
00:46:37.000 Yeah, that actually doesn't look like a skull.
00:46:39.000 That looks like it's carved out of wood.
00:46:41.000 Like the nose part, it's all filled in.
00:46:43.000 Can you imagine if you found out there was a website you could just order trophy skulls?
00:46:48.000 I was finding recreated ones on Etsy that people are making.
00:46:55.000 It says it's a replica.
00:46:57.000 Lord.
00:46:59.000 What kind of a fucking Etsy person?
00:47:01.000 Made by Monster.
00:47:02.000 That's the kind of person.
00:47:03.000 It's like I ain't even trying to hide it.
00:47:07.000 I'm a monster.
00:47:08.000 It's like a dude with an Etsy page of just skulls.
00:47:11.000 That's wild.
00:47:13.000 Boy.
00:47:14.000 But, you know, even some of these Olmec heads have hair lips.
00:47:19.000 Like I got a picture saved on one of those that has it.
00:47:23.000 It was, and again, if you mingle Neanderthal or Denisovan DNA with human DNA, this is a thing you end up with facial deformations, including hair lips.
00:47:34.000 I think it's real, bro.
00:47:35.000 What?
00:47:36.000 Earliest 20th century dyak and sized trophy skull, and it's got a name.
00:47:41.000 It costs a lot of money, and they say where it came from.
00:47:45.000 You could buy that?
00:47:46.000 Yeah.
00:47:47.000 Talking about.
00:47:48.000 Log in for the price.
00:47:50.000 Do you think that.
00:47:51.000 Can you imagine if we had a fucking skull, human skull on the desk?
00:47:55.000 That's too creepy.
00:47:56.000 That is.
00:47:56.000 Because we don't know how the guy died or the woman died.
00:47:59.000 A private collection from Thousand Oaks, California.
00:48:01.000 Oh, wow.
00:48:01.000 See how many private collections are out there.
00:48:04.000 I was telling you.
00:48:04.000 See if you can find an elongated skull for sale.
00:48:06.000 I was telling you about that.
00:48:11.000 Chief Concomly, he was a huge friend to the honkies that came through that area.
00:48:17.000 He married off his daughters to fur trappers.
00:48:19.000 He cried when they moved the fort 30 miles away.
00:48:22.000 He was like, he was a bunch of braves came up and said, We're going to go kill all these white guys.
00:48:26.000 He's like, Hey, hey, hey, do you see how tightly woven their cloth is?
00:48:30.000 Do you see how strong their weapons are?
00:48:31.000 Do you see any of their kids or their women?
00:48:34.000 Do you think this is all they're capable of, or do you think they're going to bring more to bear when they bring their families with them?
00:48:38.000 Let's not fuck with these guys.
00:48:39.000 He was really shrewd and smart.
00:48:41.000 He died three years later.
00:48:43.000 Some British dude chopped his fucking head off.
00:48:44.000 They actually had hit him.
00:48:46.000 Instead of these above ground canoe burials, they'd hit him because they knew.
00:48:49.000 Dude chops his head off, ships the skull back to England, and it wasn't until this came out five years after they'd repatriated the skull to the Chinook people.
00:48:59.000 But yeah, they actually carved on the back of his fucking head, even.
00:49:02.000 Like, yeah, here, Chief Concomly.
00:49:07.000 Here's his skull.
00:49:08.000 Here's a friend to know.
00:49:09.000 If you can't see it, they engraved.
00:49:11.000 That on the back of his skull.
00:49:14.000 Oh my God.
00:49:15.000 It's like so horrific.
00:49:17.000 And like, so you can see why the Smithsonian might be a little hard pressed in letting this stuff out.
00:49:23.000 But.
00:49:25.000 Well, the Peruvian skulls, though, like when you look at them and you look at the Monstera, do you think there's more to this story?
00:49:35.000 Is this as simple as cranial deformation plus they do it on purpose?
00:49:42.000 Or is there a potential for a different species of human that lived there?
00:49:46.000 There's almost certainly, in my opinion, a different species of human that lived there.
00:49:50.000 And I mean, even, you know, I'm not into the ancient alien stuff, but in all honesty, I wouldn't be.
00:49:55.000 If there was aliens intermingling with humans, this would probably be the best smoking gun place for it.
00:50:00.000 There's also all the evidence that they were building art that you could only see from the sky.
00:50:04.000 Exactly.
00:50:04.000 Which is really weird.
00:50:05.000 Which is really weird.
00:50:06.000 And even things like that Candelabra of the Andes that I was showing, that's visible again 12 miles out to sea.
00:50:13.000 Easter Island's close enough.
00:50:15.000 Imagine the guys jumping down from right here, from Portland, Oregon, just jumping down the coasts to Paracas.
00:50:20.000 Where were you drawing the conclusion that that represents genetic engineering?
00:50:23.000 I wouldn't have drawn it to begin with, but it looks like a family tree, and it's like with everything else lined up, all of a sudden it's like, well, I mean, you're trying to say, hey, guys, this is where we do this.
00:50:34.000 What symbol would you use?
00:50:35.000 Right.
00:50:35.000 And that's where, okay.
00:50:37.000 Again, if this was in a vacuum, that's not how I got there.
00:50:41.000 This is kind of the icing on the cake the Paracas condolabra and that textile thing.
00:50:46.000 The honest to God evidence is.
00:50:48.000 I mean, there's a lot of papers that I have, a handful of papers that I've got screenshots of there, but you pick your genetic deformation and then Google it with Denisovan or Neanderthal.
00:50:57.000 I'd almost guaranteed.
00:50:57.000 Neanderthal, I'd almost guaranteed.
00:51:00.000 Hydrocephalus, that big skull thing that I showed there, you see a few of those in Paracas with those great big things.
00:51:06.000 Hydrocephalus is something that's the frequency is increased when you mingle Denisovan or Neanderthal DNA.
00:51:13.000 It's a constant issue.
00:51:15.000 That candelabra image, does that image appear in other areas?
00:51:19.000 It actually does.
00:51:21.000 Crazily enough, it appears in Easter Island on skulls that are carved with that same image.
00:51:28.000 I didn't put any in the file, but I've got them in a video.
00:51:33.000 There's two of them that they have.
00:51:35.000 One is like a straight line, and then one's like a bird man kind of, but it's the same image.
00:51:39.000 When you say skull, do you mean humans?
00:51:41.000 I mean a decorated like those we were just looking at.
00:51:44.000 So a dead human that has that on their head.
00:51:46.000 That they'd scratched it in afterwards.
00:51:48.000 The Easter Island had elongated skulls, but almost all of those are gone.
00:51:55.000 They're hard to find images of, like impossible, but they do have these.
00:51:59.000 They were like they would do artwork on skulls after they would die.
00:52:04.000 A few of them do strongly resemble the Candelabra of the Anne.
00:52:08.000 Is that Candelabria?
00:52:09.000 Is that anywhere else down there?
00:52:12.000 Is it on either?
00:52:13.000 Not that I've seen.
00:52:14.000 Can I see that again, please?
00:52:16.000 The Candelabra?
00:52:17.000 Because the family tree thing, it's like is it the same configuration on the Easter Island heads or is it similar?
00:52:28.000 It's not identical, but it's really close.
00:52:33.000 Look for Easter Island modified skull, Jamie, and that'll probably pull up the.
00:52:38.000 It'll be a paper.
00:52:39.000 I doubt you'll find it in the images section, but if you click all, there should be a paper that.
00:52:47.000 Maybe you have to go to Google Scholar to find it.
00:52:52.000 I apologize.
00:52:52.000 Oh, it's okay.
00:52:53.000 Yeah, there's artwork on these things, on a handful of them, that is.
00:53:00.000 I'll find something here.
00:53:01.000 There's artwork on two of them in particular that's got that same fork symbol.
00:53:07.000 And one of them they call a bird man.
00:53:11.000 There we go.
00:53:12.000 Bam.
00:53:12.000 There's the bird man.
00:53:13.000 And then on the same page, you should see good job, Jamie.
00:53:18.000 You're a fucking pimp.
00:53:19.000 See, they did a bunch of art on these skulls, but two of them have that same symbol.
00:53:24.000 Do they show that hand?
00:53:25.000 Right there.
00:53:28.000 Wow.
00:53:28.000 It's similar. Super similar.
00:53:29.000 Yeah, not identical for sure, but it does have the same three things forking together to make it so.
00:53:41.000 So it's just a theory that that's the tree of life.
00:53:43.000 Or that's the family tree, rather.
00:53:46.000 Yeah.
00:53:46.000 That's totally, again, the family tree thing is completely my thing.
00:53:50.000 This one represents a penis entering a vulva.
00:53:56.000 Right in the back of his head.
00:53:59.000 Yeah, they drew it on his head.
00:54:00.000 That guy was like the earliest bad tattoo art ever.
00:54:02.000 Maybe they were honoring a person's ability to deep throat.
00:54:05.000 This far back.
00:54:06.000 The fucker gave you skull, you knew it.
00:54:09.000 X marks the spot.
00:54:10.000 But yeah, again, the imagery and stuff, I can't be 100% all right.
00:54:17.000 I mean, you can never be 100% on any of this stuff, but the genetic, those wormian bones I showed you on the back, they call them Inca bones for a reason because they show up in the Inca.
00:54:26.000 The Incas have a higher, South American and Peru, they have a higher instance of cleft palates.
00:54:31.000 They have a higher instance of polydactyly.
00:54:33.000 Just pick your fucking thing that's in line with all this, and it happens more there than it does almost anywhere else in the world.
00:54:39.000 And then, when you see everything else, the elongated skulls that frankly beggared belief, imagery and stuff that seems to.
00:54:48.000 Imagery and stuff that seems to.
00:54:50.000 The way that they praised genetic deformations, it seems almost unthinkable they wouldn't be trying to.
00:54:57.000 Imagine if everybody in your society praised kids that looked a certain way.
00:55:02.000 Wouldn't some people want to have kids that looked that way?
00:55:05.000 Right.
00:55:05.000 And there was probably some benefit that also came with that.
00:55:08.000 Exactly.
00:55:08.000 An intellect, something.
00:55:09.000 Even if it was just a social one.
00:55:12.000 Even the kid could be.
00:55:14.000 Think about this one person born with those weird teeth and a cleft palate that's also a little Einstein y.
00:55:20.000 Oh, it takes one.
00:55:21.000 From now on, it's like this guy looks like Einstein.
00:55:24.000 Right, right, right.
00:55:24.000 He's cool.
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00:56:46.000 That's like when people in the 1400s were getting syphilis and they all started wearing the big wigs.
00:56:57.000 Exactly.
00:56:57.000 Exactly.
00:56:57.000 I just took that one royal family.
00:57:00.000 With syphilis to wear wigs, and everybody's like, Gotta wear a wig?
00:57:04.000 That's that isn't that it's it's gotta we follow these trends, right?
00:57:09.000 Yeah, it's we people are weird that way, but here we are.
00:57:12.000 That's a weird one that the higher classification of a person who is born with other human DNA that's given them specific traits.
00:57:22.000 But the thing about the monster art stuff and that doesn't seem like a human, if that's real, the three fingers and the three toes, and don't they have extra ribs?
00:57:34.000 Yeah.
00:57:34.000 Something like that, or extra vertebrae.
00:57:36.000 The size of the head, the whole thing looks so weird.
00:57:40.000 You're like, okay, if this really has been carbon dated to 1,200 years ago, if that's legit, what is that?
00:57:46.000 Because I don't think that 1,200 years ago people were capable of recreating something like that that's going to survive a CAT scan.
00:57:54.000 Why would you do the kind of work that they did that you can only see from a CAT scan?
00:58:00.000 Because the entire outside of it is covered.
00:58:02.000 Yeah.
00:58:03.000 Right?
00:58:03.000 It's got the white clay and it's all mummified and there's tissue that's mummified.
00:58:09.000 How?
00:58:09.000 How the fuck did you do that?
00:58:13.000 That's a very good point.
00:58:14.000 The one gene that's responsible for polydactyly in mice, when they introduced it to the GLI3 variant that happens in Denisovans and Neanderthals in mice caused extra ribs, extra vertebrae, skull misshapen, dental morphology fucked up, and sometimes extra fingers.
00:58:37.000 Sometimes good extra fingers, sometimes bad extra fingers.
00:58:41.000 Did the mice figure out how to get out of the cage?
00:58:43.000 How to get out of the cage.
00:58:46.000 I don't think so.
00:58:46.000 I know they started getting really smart.
00:58:48.000 They started leaving notes.
00:58:50.000 Scratch notes in the window, let me out.
00:58:52.000 Pinky, today we conquer the world.
00:58:55.000 Well, do you think the Smithsonian has had giant bones?
00:59:01.000 Yes, not only that, but this is funny.
00:59:03.000 When I was here last time, I would have told you, I don't think so.
00:59:06.000 I mean, maybe six foot five, but I've done a lot of research in it since then.
00:59:10.000 Fuck.
00:59:11.000 Okay.
00:59:12.000 One dude who I'm sure I'll get his name wrong, his name was Ailes Heidelika.
00:59:15.000 He was a guy from Hungary who was a Medical doctor.
00:59:19.000 He had this theory that's a lot like the same theory of phrenology, like Leonardo DiCaprio poking on the back of the skull.
00:59:26.000 Boy, that makes you docile.
00:59:29.000 Except for it was all encompassing with the skeleton.
00:59:31.000 He believed that you could do it with arms and arm bones and leg bones and all of it.
00:59:36.000 So he left medical science to become an anthropologist to push that narrative.
00:59:42.000 He fucking said it point blank.
00:59:44.000 And then he goes out and says, Oh, all these Indian bones that you guys have that are bigger than white people's bones didn't happen.
00:59:52.000 This guy's got a vested interest in proving that white people are superior and that he believes that you prove this by the skeletons.
01:00:00.000 And he comes out and debunks all the giant bones.
01:00:02.000 And the way he did it, he's like, oh, see these bones?
01:00:04.000 These aren't giant bones.
01:00:05.000 It's like, dude, that's yeah, when I get pulled over by the cop, I pull out the.
01:00:08.000 I don't have any drugs on me, officer.
01:00:09.000 See, these are cigarettes.
01:00:10.000 What year is this again?
01:00:12.000 1930s.
01:00:13.000 And are there images of these bones this guy's displaying?
01:00:18.000 Very, very little.
01:00:19.000 It's almost all of this has just been scrubbed.
01:00:21.000 So what was he saying those bones were?
01:00:23.000 He was just saying to.
01:00:24.000 He said that people mismeasured them.
01:00:27.000 This is what it gets really, really ugly.
01:00:30.000 He accuses people.
01:00:31.000 Some of these guys were really good at their job, and he'll accuse them of mismeasuring them and not knowing how to properly apply a tape measure.
01:00:38.000 And the worst example of this, in 1959, 20 years after this dude's done this, the dude in charge of the Department of the Humanities at the Carnegie Museum, Dr. Don Dergu, dug up in one of these Adena mounds a skeleton, and he says, according to the in ground measurements, this indicates an individual that in life would have been seven foot.
01:00:59.000 Three inches tall.
01:01:01.000 They debunk it by saying, well, this is just an in ground measurement.
01:01:04.000 This is just, it hasn't, he didn't do any other work with it or anything.
01:01:08.000 It's like the man flat out said it indicates.
01:01:10.000 He was, it's 1959, 15 years after they had all the mathematical formula for doing skeletons.
01:01:16.000 This guy, they threw him straight under the fucking bus to debunk that skeleton that you can't find anywhere because they won't show it to you.
01:01:24.000 So it's like, and this was in 59, again, a guy in charge of a big department of the Carnegie Museum, not Dan digging in the backyard.
01:01:32.000 Is there a chain of custody of that skeleton?
01:01:35.000 Like, can that be traced?
01:01:38.000 All the way to the Carnegie Museum, where we don't know what happened to it now.
01:01:43.000 This is a consistent issue with these remains.
01:01:46.000 If it's a giant bone or an elongated skull and you want to know more about it, a real good chance you're not going to be able to find anything.
01:01:52.000 So, what do you think was going on?
01:01:55.000 Do you think there was a completely different species of enormous people?
01:01:59.000 Maybe, or maybe even just some of us that had the different, just some different DNA in us than somebody else, you know, just a little bit of.
01:02:07.000 But the six finger, six toe thing keeps coming up.
01:02:12.000 We get that now with just a little bit of Neanderthal DNA, right?
01:02:12.000 Yeah.
01:02:15.000 So you get different species that had more Denisovin in them than us and still technically might be the same species but not.
01:02:23.000 Do you think it's possible that these giants were Denisovins?
01:02:25.000 It's possible.
01:02:27.000 Because Denisovins were a lot larger than us, right?
01:02:31.000 At least six inches, I say.
01:02:31.000 Yeah.
01:02:33.000 And if you had a big one like this Shaq, right?
01:02:35.000 And there's me.
01:02:36.000 You know what I mean?
01:02:38.000 There's me.
01:02:39.000 You know what I mean?
01:02:40.000 Like, if you have a really big one, like, isn't it possible that there's a range of even those things?
01:02:46.000 Like, we only have a couple bones, right?
01:02:49.000 And I think there's something that just came out from China about Homo juluensis, you know, that they think it might be Denisovan, that it might be the same thing, right?
01:03:01.000 Yeah, Dragon Man, the same thing.
01:03:03.000 That's been out for a little bit now, but yeah, there.
01:03:05.000 There was something that was like super recent where they were proposing, because I think they're trying to figure out.
01:03:11.000 What we're talking about, but we're talking about it from just a couple of bones.
01:03:14.000 There's not a lot of it, it's not like they had a whole graveyard filled of Denisovans with various heights and weights, and they can get an estimation of like what the medium was.
01:03:22.000 Oh, yeah.
01:03:22.000 The vast majority of what we know about them comes from DNA, right?
01:03:26.000 Vast majority, yeah.
01:03:28.000 So we have a few bones, yeah.
01:03:30.000 But then it's like, how big?
01:03:32.000 How big were they?
01:03:33.000 Like, is this a 12 foot tall person?
01:03:35.000 Is that real?
01:03:36.000 There's five foot tall people, and there's nine foot tall people, exactly.
01:03:39.000 What's the tallest person today, like eight foot tall?
01:03:43.000 Alive now, I'm not sure, but like Robert Wadlow was like.
01:03:45.000 But he had like a real problem.
01:03:47.000 Yeah, oh yeah.
01:03:47.000 Yeah, giant, gigantism.
01:03:49.000 That's like a tumor on the pituitary gland.
01:03:51.000 Yeah, you just keep on growing.
01:03:53.000 Yeah.
01:03:54.000 But I think that just for just an outsized, enormous person, I think the record today is like, okay, 8 foot 2.8 inches in 2011.
01:04:04.000 Yo, Sultan Kosen of Turkey.
01:04:08.000 Okay.
01:04:09.000 Come on, man.
01:04:10.000 Guy lives in Turkey.
01:04:12.000 This is like one of the oldest DNAs in the world where go back.
01:04:16.000 Is this guy a giant?
01:04:18.000 Holy crap.
01:04:19.000 The size of that guy?
01:04:21.000 What does he look like when he's standing up?
01:04:24.000 Put him over there.
01:04:25.000 Okay.
01:04:25.000 And he doesn't even look like he has gigantism.
01:04:29.000 Does he?
01:04:30.000 I don't know.
01:04:31.000 He just looks like a giant dude.
01:04:32.000 He doesn't have a misshaped head or anything like that.
01:04:38.000 Either way.
01:04:40.000 Pretty impressive.
01:04:41.000 Now, imagine.
01:04:44.000 Is that a gene thing?
01:04:45.000 Is that capable of being.
01:04:48.000 Is that old?
01:04:50.000 Is that some old DNA from some other kind of human?
01:04:55.000 Or is that just a really big person?
01:04:59.000 That's a guy in China, right?
01:04:59.000 That's a different guy.
01:05:02.000 And these six finger, six toes ones, is that ubiquitous?
01:05:06.000 Does that occur in all of the reports of these bodies?
01:05:09.000 No, it doesn't.
01:05:10.000 Some of them have two rows of teeth, some of them have six fingers and six toes.
01:05:15.000 What is, like, I got pretty skeptical about, because there's a lot of giant reports in America where people were digging up mounds.
01:05:21.000 And so I got kind of skeptical about who I was taking it from.
01:05:24.000 Like, you know, Joe Farmer, I just was like, okay, I'm, you know, maybe not.
01:05:28.000 But if the guy was, it's like some of these guys were really good at what they did and they'd say they recorded something.
01:05:33.000 It was.
01:05:34.000 So there's probably a dozen solid accounts that are from people that weren't bullshit artists that had more to lose than they did to gain.
01:05:42.000 And some of them were, two of them in particular are like good scientists, like well-known anthropologists respected in their field.
01:05:50.000 And they were finding giant bones.
01:05:52.000 And even today, like that guy that I told you about, Dr. Dondregu.
01:05:55.000 There is an anthropologist right now that, like two or three years ago, she debunked his work by claiming that he just did an in ground measurement and that was it.
01:06:03.000 And it's like he clearly said, This indicates an individual that was this tall in life.
01:06:08.000 It's like I did a measurement on this and it indicates that's clearly telling you I didn't just take a dead measurement.
01:06:13.000 And they just throw his ass right under the fucking bus in order to keep this narrative going.
01:06:17.000 And that's where it's weird to me because I don't think Flint Dibble and all of his friends give two shits about the giant narrative like.
01:06:27.000 Rockefeller does.
01:06:28.000 I think it's way more of an ego thing with them because archaeology is not a fucking science, Joe.
01:06:34.000 Not even close.
01:06:35.000 It functions like a science, like religion does.
01:06:37.000 So these guys, they all know it.
01:06:39.000 They know they're LARPing as scientists.
01:06:40.000 They know when they call us science deniers, they're full of shit.
01:06:43.000 So they just have to the only thing they can do is puff their chest.
01:06:45.000 Well, some of it is science, right?
01:06:47.000 Sure, some of it is.
01:06:48.000 But let me put it to you like this.
01:06:49.000 So why are you saying Archaeology is a study of human culture by material remains.
01:06:53.000 Okay.
01:06:53.000 Now, science the cornerstone of science is replicability, arguably.
01:06:58.000 If I combine hydrogen and oxygen and you combine hydrogen, we should get the same thing.
01:07:05.000 If I dig up something in my backyard, can you replicate that?
01:07:10.000 Or are you beholden to.
01:07:12.000 What if Joseph Smith digs up gold plates and I dig up an arrowhead?
01:07:16.000 You believe one and not the other?
01:07:18.000 Right, but you can put protocols in place where you have a bunch of people that are all responsible for making sure that everything goes according to plan and they all report to someone else.
01:07:26.000 But how is it replicable?
01:07:30.000 Well, it's not replicable, but they are exposing these ancient remains and they are using.
01:07:37.000 You can use some scientific.
01:07:39.000 Carbon dating.
01:07:39.000 Absolutely.
01:07:39.000 They're using physics there.
01:07:40.000 That's physics, right?
01:07:41.000 That's what it comes down to.
01:07:44.000 Fundamentally, archaeology cannot be silenced any more than theology.
01:07:49.000 Fundamentally, a miracle, you either believe or you don't.
01:07:54.000 I dug up something in my backyard, you either believe it or you don't.
01:07:57.000 You can't replicate either one of these things.
01:07:58.000 But you can film people pulling things out of the ground.
01:08:01.000 Would you like to?
01:08:03.000 You can.: But there's a lot of instances where, like, they're doing a construction dig in Mexico City and they find.
01:08:09.000 Like stone, they stop construction, archaeologists come in.
01:08:11.000 There's a whole chain of custody of where this stuff's coming from.
01:08:17.000 Absolutely.
01:08:17.000 So isn't that kind of scientific?
01:08:18.000 Kind of.
01:08:19.000 I mean, again, there's a chain of custody on the Epstein letters, right?
01:08:22.000 But at a point it falls apart because of do you believe or do you not?
01:08:30.000 That's what it really comes down to with archaeology I can't replicate the findings.
01:08:34.000 And if you can't replicate that I'm not saying it's worthless.
01:08:38.000 A historian knows better than to call themselves a scientist.
01:08:41.000 They know it's not.
01:08:43.000 They use scientific methods.
01:08:44.000 A video game speedrunner, if you know what that is, somebody who's trying to beat Super Mario Brothers, they use science.
01:08:51.000 So you'll put an archaeologist more in the line of a historian.
01:08:54.000 Yeah.
01:08:54.000 Absolutely.
01:08:54.000 Both of them call somebody else when it comes time to carbon date.
01:08:58.000 Again, the reproducibility is crucial.
01:09:01.000 The argument that they always go to is well, astronomy is not reproducible.
01:09:10.000 If you have a supernova, you can't reproduce that.
01:09:13.000 Yeah, except I have 100 telescopes all trained on it.
01:09:16.000 So if this guy's data set and that guy's data set, jibe, it's been reproduced.
01:09:21.000 If I've got one arrowhead to dug up out of the ground, we either believe that this dude dug up the arrowhead out of the ground or we don't.
01:09:30.000 And this especially matters when it becomes to these unique one off finds.
01:09:32.000 It's one thing when it's an arrowhead, it's another thing altogether when it's the anti Kithra mechanism.
01:09:37.000 And so this is where our archaeology becomes some people, you could understand why somebody might believe the anti Kithra mechanism is bullshit.
01:09:44.000 And at that point, it goes directly to what I'm saying.
01:09:48.000 It's faith based.
01:09:48.000 Does this coincide with my worldview or not?
01:09:52.000 Which is why archaeology is like this huge split between these people that are the guys that are trying to puff their chests and say that it really is what they claim it to be.
01:10:06.000 And then there's the people that are actually just doing good work.
01:10:09.000 And they'll be quick to tell you, you know, at the end of the day, our results aren't, you know, we do science where we can, but we can't say for sure that our results are.
01:10:16.000 Are scientific because it's a lot of guesswork at the end.
01:10:19.000 And that becomes a problem when they do things like Clovis first.
01:10:23.000 When they're like, we're going to use our science to beat everything else off the table.
01:10:28.000 It's not fucking science, bitch.
01:10:29.000 Use our science to beat everything else off the table.
01:10:32.000 It's not fucking science, bitch.
01:10:33.000 So get it out of here.
01:10:35.000 And that's where, yeah, the same thing like I was saying earlier with the COVID thing.
01:10:38.000 You don't get to, too many of us know what the scientific method is for you just to come in here and tell us it's something else.
01:10:45.000 Well, when Dibble was trying to deny that they did that, like deny that archaeologists will attack people that have evidence of something that contradicts their assertions, like that's crazy to deny.
01:10:57.000 There's so much history of that.
01:11:01.000 He called it what's so funny when you're in that debate.
01:11:04.000 He tells you when you're pushing on him like that, he goes, Well, that's an example of an academic debate.
01:11:09.000 Those things happen.
01:11:10.000 It's like, dude, okay, that same guy I was telling you about, Ailes Heidelika, that racist son of a bitch with the giants, before he believed that there were no people in the Americas before 3,000 years ago.
01:11:22.000 And even on the Wikipedia page of the Folsom tradition, it still says now that any archaeologist desirous of a successful career could not posit an earlier date.
01:11:31.000 For the peopling of the Americas, or him and one other dude would destroy their fucking careers.
01:11:35.000 This isn't the first time it's been going.
01:11:37.000 It's ego.
01:11:39.000 Well, again.
01:11:40.000 And it's men mostly, right?
01:11:41.000 It's human men and their egos and wanting to be the gatekeeper of information.
01:11:45.000 I'm an expert.
01:11:47.000 I'm the authority figure.
01:11:48.000 Yeah.
01:11:48.000 Oh, imagine the shot to the ego it takes to be a guy like you study all your time and you study all this crap and then Graham comes along and he studies and he writes a fake.
01:12:00.000 History and you write a fake history, and his sells more.
01:12:03.000 Oh man, that's just going to cry right up in his ass.
01:12:08.000 And it does.
01:12:08.000 Well, I just don't like also that someone comes along and they're super obsessed with a subject and they're not confined by the academic world where they have to get funding to do certain studies, they have to get things approved, they want to get tenure, they have to get the approval of the higher ups.
01:12:25.000 There's all sorts of stuff that happens in the academic world that doesn't happen in the world of the Jimmy Corsettis and the Luke Caverns and these people that could just go to places and start filming.
01:12:35.000 You know, Ben Van Kirkwick can just go places and start filming and become huge experts in this stuff.
01:12:40.000 I mean, the information that's available about the old kingdom, about all these things, it's all available.
01:12:46.000 Like anyone can read it if you take the time and if you really dive into it.
01:12:50.000 And these guys have dove into it.
01:12:51.000 And a lot of these other guys haven't.
01:12:53.000 And that's the thing.
01:12:54.000 And they're a little lazy.
01:12:56.000 Maybe not lazy, but let's say this not as obsessed.
01:12:59.000 So they should look at the Ben Van Kirkwicks as a resource.
01:13:03.000 Thank you.
01:13:04.000 I've been saying this one for a long time, but they do the opposite.
01:13:08.000 I'll give you a Perfect example.
01:13:09.000 Jimmy Corsetti, two years ago on X Posts, I wonder if the Nephilim in the Bible were the Denisovans or the Neanderthals or something like that.
01:13:16.000 At the time, they didn't know Denisovans were taller than us.
01:13:19.000 So all the archaeologists, oh, Jimmy's stupid.
01:13:21.000 The Nephilim were supposed to be taller than us, and both of these species are shorter.
01:13:25.000 And I even said, I'm like, I'll just let this go a couple days and I'm going to show you guys what you're doing wrong.
01:13:30.000 And I let him go at it.
01:13:31.000 And then I was like, okay, let's try this.
01:13:32.000 As a science communicator, let's try it like this.
01:13:35.000 Hey, Jim, those ones are shorter than humans, but there are other species of Archaic hominid like Gigantopithecus that were taller than us that might fit the bill.
01:13:43.000 Why don't you look into that and see what you find?
01:13:44.000 You take somebody's passion, they're looking at the rabbit hole, you shove them in head first.
01:13:49.000 That's science communication.
01:13:49.000 Telling them the rabbit hole ain't fucking there, Clover, that's being a cunt.
01:13:53.000 Well, I also think we should all operate, all human beings, under this assumption.
01:13:57.000 We don't have all the evidence for all the humans that lived.
01:14:03.000 We just don't.
01:14:03.000 We only have a tiny fraction.
01:14:05.000 We have fossilized remains, especially when shit gets really old.
01:14:09.000 We don't have enough data.
01:14:11.000 Yeah.
01:14:11.000 And if you just operate on, we don't have enough data, which is pure, pure, everyone should agree on that.
01:14:18.000 So once you have, then say, okay, this is the data we have.
01:14:22.000 Is the data we have, and this points to the fact that new humans are emerging that we're finding, and we might be wrong about the number that existed.
01:14:33.000 And potentially, there could be a cave somewhere in Siberia or wherever, and they find another bone, and they go, Holy shit, what is this one?
01:14:41.000 This is a totally different kind of person, and now you have another one, and you have another one, and who knows how many of them there were.
01:14:48.000 And this will give us a richer understanding of what took place.
01:14:51.000 And then I think Michael Buttons has a really good video where he's talking about.
01:14:57.000 How anatomically similar humans existed a long time ago.
01:15:03.000 Like, why would we assume that civilization and complex thinking and tool making and technology only emerged in the last couple hundred years when the exact same species existed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of years ago?
01:15:19.000 Isn't it possible that something, some human a long time ago, had figured out some stuff and we have no evidence?
01:15:28.000 No evidence of it anymore because of just natural wear and the weathering and the earth absorbs things.
01:15:34.000 There's nothing left.
01:15:35.000 That seems more logical.
01:15:37.000 Yeah, I completely agree.
01:15:38.000 Yeah, I love Mike.
01:15:40.000 He's great.
01:15:41.000 Michael Button, yeah, he's great.
01:15:42.000 It's one of the things, honestly, just really quickly, I've loved watching the last year and a half since I've been on here, Left, while you just kind of went through my litany of friends and stuck them in this chair one after the fucking other.
01:15:52.000 It's like, hey, that's Luke.
01:15:53.000 Hey, I know I cook.
01:15:54.000 I know I cook.
01:15:54.000 Hey, that was really good to see, man.
01:15:58.000 It's a fun time.
01:15:59.000 It's a fun time to get cool people to talk about cool shit.
01:16:02.000 And the passion that these guys have.
01:16:04.000 Like you say, that's honestly a huge thing.
01:16:08.000 You know, Duncan gave me a really good compliment.
01:16:11.000 Duncan Trussell saying that I was like, that I was all passionate, like a fucking, well, what's that guy that did all calculus and stuff, the old school Sir Isaac Newton.
01:16:20.000 And I was like, damn, I don't think I'm like that, but thank you.
01:16:24.000 Probably got as many chemicals in my body.
01:16:27.000 Was Isaac Newton a tripper?
01:16:29.000 No, no, he was an alchemist, so he like died of mercury poisoning.
01:16:33.000 Did he really?
01:16:35.000 This is one of the funniest things.
01:16:36.000 I love saying this one on Twitter.
01:16:37.000 I say it once every couple of years.
01:16:40.000 The world we live in now, where they'll take a scientist and they'll say, like, yeah, but this guy's political opinions are all skewed, so fuck this guy.
01:16:46.000 It's like, you know what they would have done with Sir Isaac Newton?
01:16:48.000 We wouldn't have the theory of gravity or calculus.
01:16:50.000 They'd have been like, yeah, that guy denies the Trinity and he's fucking an alchemist.
01:16:56.000 Why would I put up with this crazy guy's bullshit?
01:16:58.000 It's like, it's.
01:17:00.000 But yeah, it's.
01:17:02.000 This is one of the things I've actually come to a lot of terms with on my own little searching in this community is that.
01:17:09.000 There's a lot of people that I disagree with on fucking 80%, but that 20% that they're if they bring honest data to the table.
01:17:16.000 Yeah.
01:17:16.000 Like, and my best example of this goes all the way back to the 1880s, Carl Christian Rothen, or the 1830s even.
01:17:23.000 He was an anthropologist.
01:17:26.000 He believed that the Norse discovered America before Columbus.
01:17:30.000 And the reason he believed this was because every time he'd see a rock with a glyph on it, he's like, man, them dumb Indians didn't know how to carve no fucking rocks.
01:17:37.000 Granted, all their weapons are made out of stone, but anyway, they don't know how to make this.
01:17:40.000 So, must have been a white guy.
01:17:42.000 So he does research, research, research, research, and eventually finds out that it was the Norse that be.
01:17:47.000 Now he was pissing up a rope with this fucking line of evidence, but he did honest research and he got us real data.
01:17:54.000 Right.
01:17:54.000 So I'm finding a lot that I just have to like, I really don't like you, but okay, what do you got to say?
01:18:00.000 This is a part of the problem with the Atlantis thing, and this is why guys like Flint always connected to racism, because there were a group of people that were white supremacists that believed that the white race was responsible for Atlantis, but those are not like credible historians.
01:18:15.000 These are also not in the same group of people as Graham or you or Ben Van Kirkwick or any of these people.
01:18:15.000 No.
01:18:21.000 No one is saying that.
01:18:23.000 So, to connect people to something like Atlantis, where there are problematic people that believed something that was racist, just because you're talking about Atlantis doesn't mean everybody who's investigating Atlantis is also problematic and racist.
01:18:39.000 That's crazy.
01:18:40.000 Well, they say, well, it encourages racism.
01:18:42.000 Oh, God.
01:18:43.000 I always jump with, they go, well, do you see how many, their evidence, you see how many white supremacists cite this stuff?
01:18:47.000 And I always go, well, do you see how many white supremacists cite all kinds of such things?
01:18:51.000 And drink water.
01:18:52.000 Poverty and crime and all these other things.
01:18:54.000 Should we get rid of all of these statistics too?
01:18:56.000 We should just quit gathering anything that a white supremacist might use.
01:18:58.000 Do you remember the Mac Tonight commercial with the McDonald's Moonman?
01:19:02.000 No.
01:19:04.000 Don't you remember years ago, like we were kids in the 80s, when I was a kid in the 80s, they had a big Moonman guy that was singing a Mac the Knife parody When the clock strikes half past six, babe, time to head for golden lines.
01:19:20.000 Okay, about 15 years ago, they started using a thing with like some weird voice.
01:19:25.000 Chat and this guy's making racist memes.
01:19:26.000 Does that mean that McDonald's is fucking racist or does it just mean that racists will co opt fucking anything, including Pepe the Frog?
01:19:33.000 Pepe the Frog is the best example.
01:19:35.000 That poor guy who made Pepe the Frog.
01:19:35.000 Thank you.
01:19:37.000 That guy was like, that's not me.
01:19:40.000 And so, but so, and that's exactly what these guys do, man.
01:19:47.000 We can't talk about anything without it being racist.
01:19:49.000 It's like, dude.
01:19:50.000 Well, that's just a way to dismiss you.
01:19:53.000 It's a way to weapon shit and to drag other people in.
01:19:56.000 Yeah.
01:19:56.000 Hey man, this guy's talking shit about the pyramids.
01:19:59.000 Oh, he's also racist.
01:19:59.000 Yeah, whatever.
01:20:00.000 Oh, fuck.
01:20:01.000 We got 5% of them came over.
01:20:03.000 Yeah.
01:20:03.000 It's really pathetic.
01:20:03.000 Cool.
01:20:05.000 And, you know, in all honesty, I get shit during the election cycles from friends and from fans for not supporting X, Y, or Z.
01:20:16.000 And I always tell them the same thing look, most of the third or fucking SETI II.
01:20:20.000 I talk about ancient history, bitch.
01:20:22.000 I'm not talking about modern politics.
01:20:23.000 That's not what I'm doing.
01:20:25.000 And I'm certainly not going to endorse somebody on my platform.
01:20:25.000 It's not.
01:20:28.000 As a matter of fact, why do you care what Beyonce says about this shit?
01:20:31.000 Why do you care about any of these fuck?
01:20:32.000 These people aren't political analysts.
01:20:34.000 Why do you care that much?
01:20:36.000 Why are you crawling up my ass about, well, yeah, but you know, you've got the people want us to all be towing to certain.
01:20:45.000 It's funny.
01:20:45.000 I swear to God, it's like the whole country's got, like, probably a third of us are little Hitlers.
01:20:50.000 The whole world would be better if everybody just thought just like me.
01:20:52.000 It's like fucking Christ.
01:20:54.000 And they think they're the open minded, compassionate ones.
01:20:56.000 It's really weird.
01:20:57.000 It's just the nature of the tribal world that we're living in right now, and it's so divided.
01:21:02.000 And this is one of the giant problems with social media.
01:21:05.000 And I think it's great that everyone has an opinion.
01:21:08.000 And I think it's great that everyone gets to express an opinion.
01:21:10.000 It doesn't mean that you should listen.
01:21:12.000 It doesn't mean you should absorb it.
01:21:15.000 It doesn't mean that it's a valid opinion.
01:21:17.000 You'll find the valid opinions, but you have to sort through the bad ones.
01:21:21.000 And this is how it's always going to be.
01:21:23.000 It's always going to be that people have a take on it that you fiercely disagree with.
01:21:26.000 The people have the least charitable view of this person or this idea or this thing.
01:21:32.000 You're always going to have.
01:21:33.000 A spectrum of ideas, and you have to allow it.
01:21:36.000 That's how it is.
01:21:38.000 And you have to counter that with a better perspective.
01:21:40.000 And if you're coming at it from you want to silence and destroy everyone who disagrees with you, especially on something as complex as ancient history, like that seems like you're doing a bad thing.
01:21:40.000 That's it.
01:21:54.000 That seems like you're denying the resource of all these obsessed people.
01:21:58.000 Yeah.
01:21:58.000 I completely agree with you.
01:22:01.000 As a matter of fact, if they're getting something wrong, like, yeah, have a conversation with those people and explain why they're getting something wrong.
01:22:08.000 But B, good faith about it.
01:22:10.000 Be good faith about it.
01:22:12.000 The Society for American Archaeology's original bylaws, their very first law was their intention was to cultivate a better relationship between interested amateurs and professional archaeologists and to offer help when requested to those interested amateurs.
01:22:32.000 They're doing neither one of those things right now.
01:22:34.000 Number one, they are pissing all over the relationship between people that are interested amateurs and the professional archaeologists.
01:22:40.000 They can't even talk to each other anymore.
01:22:43.000 Well, don't you think that's also a little bit of jealousy because these interested amateurs have all of a sudden come to the forefront and they're making money off of it?
01:22:50.000 Oh, yeah.
01:22:51.000 I mean, when Ford found out that I had supporters, he lost his shit.
01:22:51.000 Oh, yeah.
01:22:55.000 People pay him money for the oh, my fucking God.
01:22:59.000 Silly to worry about that.
01:22:59.000 Silly.
01:23:00.000 But it's also like just YouTube revenue.
01:23:02.000 Guys like Ben Van Kirkwick's videos get millions of views.
01:23:05.000 Yeah.
01:23:06.000 Like there's real money in it and they're not making money.
01:23:10.000 No, not like that.
01:23:11.000 No, they got to be pissed.
01:23:12.000 I'm sure that's why.
01:23:13.000 I went to school for this.
01:23:15.000 But the other thing I, and again, in that bylaws, it says to offer help when requested to interested amateurs.
01:23:20.000 When's the last time Graham Hancock asked one of these cocksuckers their opinion?
01:23:24.000 They don't.
01:23:25.000 They give him that help whether he wants it or not.
01:23:29.000 They've completely lost the plot.
01:23:31.000 Well, the problem is the way they frame it.
01:23:33.000 Like when they were talking about his Netflix show being one of the most dangerous shows on television, how is it dangerous to talk about evidence of a lost civilization?
01:23:41.000 That seems insane.
01:23:43.000 Their egos are at the fore.
01:23:46.000 Have you ever read that letter that they wrote to Netflix?
01:23:49.000 Yes.
01:23:50.000 They had three problems, right?
01:23:52.000 And they list them one, two, three.
01:23:54.000 Now, you would assume these are professional archaeologists and they're talking about Graham Crown Hawk.
01:23:58.000 You would assume number one is he got a bunch of shit wrong.
01:24:00.000 Right.
01:24:01.000 No, number one is he talks shit about archaeologists and he doesn't listen to us.
01:24:05.000 That was number one.
01:24:06.000 They couldn't even hide their ego in the fucking list.
01:24:09.000 It's like, it's just also not true.
01:24:12.000 They're petulant children.
01:24:13.000 I swear to fucking God.
01:24:14.000 Also not true.
01:24:15.000 He listens.
01:24:15.000 Yeah.
01:24:16.000 He puts them on the.
01:24:16.000 Oh, dear.
01:24:18.000 The difference is he doesn't want to deal with the guy.
01:24:21.000 If you're going to come in and just poo poo everything and say, no, that's not true, no, that's not true, no, that's not true, well, then yeah, you're not going to.
01:24:27.000 I'm not going to put up with that shit.
01:24:30.000 You're going to have an actual conversation with me, sure.
01:24:33.000 But if you're just What were the other two problems?
01:24:34.000 The other two problems one was that he was wrong.
01:24:36.000 Well, the other one was that it promotes white supremacy.
01:24:38.000 And the best part about that is they say because this theory, the exact wording is this theory dates to 1882 and Ignatius Donnelly, blah, blah, blah.
01:24:50.000 Ignatius Donnelly was a left, he was liberal as fuck.
01:24:55.000 He was a feminist and an abolitionist, but he was also a white dude in the 1800s.
01:24:59.000 He's racist fuck by modern standards, right?
01:25:01.000 Just like all the archaeologists were back then, but don't bother with that.
01:25:05.000 They pick him and they say, this guy's the one that started the problem.
01:25:08.000 He's the one that created this theory.
01:25:10.000 But you go back 20 years and Augustus Le Plignon and some other dude, I'm losing his name right now, but there were two French Americans that believed that the Maya.
01:25:21.000 Had con were the Atlanteans, that the Amaya had conquered the world, that the Maya were the master race, if you're going to look at it that way.
01:25:27.000 But they're going to ignore that when they submit this stuff to Netflix because it doesn't just they wanted to make it sound like this entire shit was created to support white supremacy when it was actually not.
01:25:38.000 But they so my point here is in a debate where it constantly revolves around you guys are lying about our past, they lie about what happened 15 fucking minutes ago on the internet where you can all see it and then they wonder why we are like.
01:25:52.000 You guys do lie about the fucking boneheads.
01:25:52.000 Ha!
01:25:55.000 So, this guy, what was his theory?
01:25:55.000 Sorry.
01:25:59.000 The first guy that is problematic, even though he's a liberal and a feminist.
01:26:02.000 Oh, well, he believed that it was white supremacy.
01:26:04.000 white supremacy.
01:26:05.000 He believed that the three biblical races – do you know of that, like Noah's three kids, Sam is the Semitic race, the Hamite race was the Africans, and then the other one ended up being the Aryans, it was the white people.
01:26:23.000 These three biblical races have – biblical racism they call it.
01:26:27.000 It's been like a thing for a thousand years.
01:26:29.000 But he just clung to that idea that it was basically these races of after, post-Noah and all this.
01:26:36.000 Do you know the story with Noah, like he got drunk afterwards?
01:26:39.000 No.
01:26:40.000 Oh, could you pull this up, Jimmy?
01:26:43.000 After it's all done, Noah gets all drunk and he's like laying around naked, and one of his sons laughs at him and one of them doesn't.
01:26:50.000 So, like, he curses the lowest of them and he praises the highest.
01:26:54.000 And when you see the Bible verse, it's like, you're going to be the servants to this one and he can sleep in your tent whenever he wants.
01:27:00.000 And you can see why this was used to promote racial superiority.
01:27:05.000 Wow.
01:27:06.000 But it's.
01:27:06.000 Right.
01:27:09.000 That's where it came from.
01:27:10.000 So, if they really wanted it to, they could have been saying the Bible created racism and that was a problem.
01:27:15.000 But it's also very silly to connect the idea of ancient civilizations to one person.
01:27:21.000 That's so silly.
01:27:23.000 It's so silly.
01:27:23.000 It's so silly.
01:27:24.000 When you're talking about evidence all over the world, we're talking about Baalbek, we're talking about the Maya, we're talking about the Egyptians, we're talking about all over the world, and you're going to connect it to white supremacy, isn't it more plausible that we don't know?
01:27:39.000 Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.
01:27:39.000 What happened?
01:27:41.000 Just a little bit.
01:27:42.000 I mean, but you got to understand these guys are the ones that follow.
01:27:45.000 Like, I break your rule some and I argue with the people in the trenches, right?
01:27:49.000 And the guys that follow Flint Dibble, they'll all the time make fun of you.
01:27:53.000 You believe in lost civilizations.
01:27:54.000 And my answer is do you think we found every civilization?
01:27:56.000 Oh, no.
01:27:57.000 So you're just throwing around stupid shit, just talking crap.
01:28:00.000 Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.
01:28:01.000 The idea that there'd be evidence left over other than the stuff that we've already found, like what are you looking for that's 100,000 years old?
01:28:08.000 It doesn't mean that there wasn't something going on 100,000 years ago.
01:28:12.000 It seems like there was.
01:28:13.000 Definitely something going on at least 12,000 years ago.
01:28:16.000 So that fucks up our whole timeline.
01:28:18.000 Oh, yeah.
01:28:19.000 And they want to still attribute that to hunter gatherers just for convenience.
01:28:22.000 The idea that the Gobekli Tepe structures were made by hunter gatherers, like, why would they do that?
01:28:29.000 How did they do that?
01:28:29.000 Yeah.
01:28:31.000 How come they didn't make houses, but they made that stuff?
01:28:35.000 Yeah.
01:28:35.000 How come?
01:28:36.000 Yeah.
01:28:36.000 Well, that's a tough one, man.
01:28:39.000 You know, what were their tools?
01:28:40.000 They're looking at, you know, Karan Tepe, they're actually talking about covering that again.
01:28:44.000 Like they did at Gobeckley, which is fucked.
01:28:46.000 I don't know if you know Megalithomania, Hugh Newman.
01:28:47.000 There are not a lot of people that I would mention on your show, but he's definitely one of them.
01:28:55.000 He's a badass.
01:28:56.000 He's been doing this forever.
01:28:57.000 He's doing all this archaeoastronomy work out there at Carontepe, and they're getting ready to cover it.
01:29:04.000 He's just going, uh, uh.
01:29:05.000 Why are they covering it?
01:29:06.000 They're claiming it's for tourism to protect the site and all this.
01:29:11.000 What do you think it is?
01:29:12.000 I don't know.
01:29:13.000 That might well be it.
01:29:14.000 I do know that.
01:29:16.000 How does it protect the site, though?
01:29:17.000 If you don't have rain on it, I don't know.
01:29:19.000 But it's stone, right?
01:29:20.000 I mean, honestly, it gets weird when you look at the third world because, or poorer countries like that because, you know, my iPhone could feed a family over there for a month.
01:29:20.000 Yeah.
01:29:32.000 So it's like these guys are going to do, they've got a different set of priorities than us.
01:29:36.000 Right.
01:29:36.000 So, but wouldn't you think that more things getting exposed would equal more tourism, which would equal more revenue?
01:29:44.000 Yes and no.
01:29:45.000 I did a video a while back about Zahi Hawass being a heel, like a wrestling heel.
01:29:51.000 Deliberate.
01:29:51.000 I'm 100% on this.
01:29:54.000 I'm not saying that he doesn't do shady shit.
01:29:54.000 Really?
01:29:54.000 Oh, yeah.
01:29:57.000 I'm saying that he plays the villain.
01:29:59.000 That he plays the villain.
01:30:01.000 I'll give you some examples.
01:30:04.000 There's a clip of him shortly after Arab Spring.
01:30:07.000 He's talking about how to increase tourism.
01:30:10.000 He has two things.
01:30:11.000 One, you don't want tourists from any old country.
01:30:13.000 You want Japanese, Americans, Chinese, Germans.
01:30:16.000 You don't want the rest.
01:30:17.000 You want people to come in and change your world.
01:30:19.000 Second thing is, it doesn't matter what's happening in Egypt.
01:30:24.000 Those new age people, they come.
01:30:27.000 It doesn't matter if it's Arab Spring.
01:30:28.000 It doesn't matter if tourism's down by 40 percent.
01:30:30.000 Those new age people, they come.
01:30:34.000 So then, did I find something?
01:30:36.000 Yes, I found it.
01:30:36.000 No, I didn't.
01:30:37.000 No, I didn't.
01:30:37.000 Yes, I did.
01:30:38.000 Yes, I did.
01:30:38.000 No, I didn't.
01:30:39.000 Yes, I did.
01:30:39.000 No, I didn't.
01:30:40.000 It's you're come and investigate.
01:30:44.000 Come and investigate.
01:30:44.000 Come and look.
01:30:45.000 Come and see for yourself.
01:30:46.000 Come and pop into those little holes and look for yourself.
01:30:49.000 Go look at the place that I told you there was nothing.
01:30:50.000 I think, honestly, that's his whole reason that he's playing it to the hilt.
01:30:55.000 And I think Lee Claire's doing the same thing right now.
01:30:57.000 If you watch Lee Claire on I don't know who that is.
01:30:59.000 Lee Claire is the archaeologist in charge of Gobekli Tepe.
01:31:02.000 He's a big, big dude down there.
01:31:03.000 And if you look at him on Twitter, he's doing the exact same thing.
01:31:07.000 He's constantly arguing.
01:31:08.000 He's picking at Jimmy.
01:31:09.000 I actually blocked the guy.
01:31:10.000 I don't block many scientists that aren't constantly antagonistic towards me.
01:31:14.000 He was every day I'd wake up and more talking shit about me.
01:31:17.000 He's just pissing everybody off.
01:31:21.000 The whole point, in my opinion, is to make it where people want to come and look at what you're hiding.
01:31:25.000 If something's being hidden, you have to have a villain hiding it, right?
01:31:28.000 Give me a touchstone slide.
01:31:29.000 What the fuck is Zahi Hawass?
01:31:31.000 Think about it.
01:31:32.000 What is Zahi Hawass hiding?
01:31:33.000 Is that a crazy statement to make?
01:31:35.000 No, it's not.
01:31:36.000 I think he cultivated that.
01:31:37.000 I think that's an image that he made.
01:31:39.000 To increase tourist revenue.
01:31:41.000 So, you think he created this character to make it so that people want to combat against him and then go there and see and look around?
01:31:50.000 Spend money.
01:31:51.000 Yeah.
01:31:52.000 Really?
01:31:52.000 Yeah.
01:31:53.000 I don't think that's the whole thing.
01:31:54.000 I think he went a little too tinfoil headed.
01:31:57.000 I think it's a little more simple than that.
01:31:59.000 Yeah.
01:31:59.000 I think he's been in control of the narrative there for a long time.
01:32:02.000 And there's also some weird stuff with things missing.
01:32:05.000 Oh, no, I'm not saying that he didn't steal stuff.
01:32:06.000 The weird stuff with things missing is like you would want to really control the narrative if, like, skeletons that you reported.
01:32:14.000 Discovering, then you say there's no skeletons, right?
01:32:17.000 Isn't there one of those in one of the sarcophaguses?
01:32:20.000 Yeah, Jimmy was hammering away at that one.
01:32:22.000 There was an original story from like the 80s that they found the skeleton.
01:32:27.000 And they just.
01:32:28.000 No, no skeleton.
01:32:29.000 And the problem is what we were talking about before that there are wealthy people that will pay you an enormous amount of money for the skeleton.
01:32:36.000 So if you got some dude, you know, he's got Saudi Arabian money and he's like, you know, it would be dope.
01:32:41.000 I want a fucking Egyptian mummy in my house, you know?
01:32:45.000 And people had them.
01:32:46.000 I mean, this was a thing that.
01:32:47.000 They were eating them.
01:32:48.000 Yes, yes, yes.
01:32:50.000 God.
01:32:51.000 What?
01:32:51.000 When I told Danny Jones that, he's like, what the fuck?
01:32:54.000 Pull that up now.
01:32:55.000 Yeah, people would have these mummy unwrapping parties at their homes, these very wealthy people, and they would eat the mummies.
01:33:04.000 I bet you a lot of those elongated skulls ended up in similar.
01:33:08.000 I know, but like, whose house?
01:33:10.000 How many houses?
01:33:11.000 Like, how does no one tell on them?
01:33:11.000 Who are these people?
01:33:13.000 I don't know, but I mean, if you look at what.
01:33:17.000 Five years ago, I would have said, Dude, I don't know about all this, man.
01:33:20.000 When you look at that island, you're like, ah.
01:33:22.000 What would you do if somebody gave you an elongated skull?
01:33:25.000 Would you give it to a museum?
01:33:26.000 Like, what would you do?
01:33:27.000 Like, if somebody gave you one of those really dope Peruvian skulls that are crazy without the sagittal suture, you're looking at the enormous brain capacity, the size of the head, you're like, what the size of the eye sockets?
01:33:37.000 I had scientist after scientist finger fucking that thing until we got somewhere.
01:33:41.000 Right.
01:33:42.000 But would you bring it somewhere where other people could see it?
01:33:46.000 Would you allow the scientist to take it?
01:33:48.000 Control of it and to take hold of it.
01:33:51.000 Because this is my friend John Reeves up in Alaska.
01:33:53.000 You know, he's had some real issues with that.
01:33:55.000 Yeah.
01:33:56.000 Where they'll take bones and then they'll go, nope, never getting them back.
01:33:59.000 Yeah, and they'll end up in a bones in the bottom of the harbor.
01:34:02.000 Yeah, and he won't, but this was before his time, but yeah, they did that.
01:34:05.000 Was that the American Museum of Natural History?
01:34:08.000 Is that it?
01:34:09.000 So the thing he does now is like, if you want to do work on these bones, you got to come to Alaska.
01:34:14.000 Yeah.
01:34:15.000 And he built a whole scientific research building and.
01:34:18.000 Well, it makes sense.
01:34:19.000 He's like, I don't trust any of you motherfuckers.
01:34:19.000 Yeah.
01:34:21.000 Hell, you know where the Baghdad Battery is right now, don't you?
01:34:24.000 Where?
01:34:24.000 Nobody knows.
01:34:25.000 It was grabbed by Alphabet Boys at the beginning of the 2000s.
01:34:28.000 Which alphabet, boys?
01:34:30.000 I'm not sure.
01:34:30.000 Ours.
01:34:32.000 It might be one we don't even know about.
01:34:34.000 All I know is it was I'm just going to say I doubt that the soldier that went in there had decided he wanted that thing for himself.
01:34:40.000 Speaking of the Baghdad bag, I got a cool little theory on that.
01:34:45.000 I don't know if you've ever seen that, but I don't think it was for electricity.
01:34:47.000 I think it was to separate metal.
01:34:49.000 If you were to use for the electrolyte, if you were to take mine runoff that had like gold and silver and copper and iron and nickel and magnum and all that bullshit, you put it in that thing.
01:34:59.000 That thing, after a while, that exact cell that we had, the copper would have a buildup of gold, copper, and silver.
01:35:05.000 All the other shit would go to the bottom.
01:35:08.000 So you could, I think it was a way for them to like.
01:35:11.000 Separate.
01:35:11.000 And I think the discovery of this would be super easy.
01:35:15.000 Drop a copper coin and a metal nail into a puddle of that and come back in two days and you're going to see the buildup of gold on that coin.
01:35:21.000 And so this explains why inside of the thing, like there's no residue at all, which is one of the reasons they say it didn't happen.
01:35:28.000 Well, they were harvesting the residue.
01:35:29.000 Is my opinion.
01:35:30.000 And this is why you couldn't.
01:35:32.000 With at trace amounts?
01:35:33.000 Even if they were harvested.
01:35:35.000 Now that's where it would be nice to test it now.
01:35:37.000 It hasn't been looked at in a long time.
01:35:38.000 You know, it hasn't been tested for anything in a long time.
01:35:42.000 Where is it?
01:35:43.000 It's gone.
01:35:43.000 It's in somebody.
01:35:44.000 It's right next to those skulls and those mummies.
01:35:46.000 It's on some dude's shelf that will.
01:35:48.000 Yes.
01:35:48.000 Really?
01:35:48.000 This is a picture of a street mummy cellar in 1875.
01:35:51.000 Jesus Christ.
01:35:52.000 So this article on Big Think was saying that this was so popular from 1200 to about 18th, or sorry, the 12th century to 18th century that they kind of ran out of mummies.
01:36:04.000 Yeah.
01:36:04.000 And imagine you could fly over there and pick up a mummy.
01:36:09.000 Well, that's before these parties were even happening.
01:36:11.000 Imagine that's one of those in the corner over there.
01:36:13.000 They thought it was medicine.
01:36:15.000 Yeah, mummia.
01:36:15.000 We've talked about this once before, but this shit exists all over the place.
01:36:20.000 And I wonder if any of them would have been better than Khufu's.
01:36:23.000 Go to Lot 99, Apothecary Antiques.
01:36:25.000 Right up there, upper left.
01:36:28.000 Look at that.
01:36:28.000 Yeah.
01:36:28.000 What?
01:36:29.000 Mummia.
01:36:30.000 Apothecary.
01:36:32.000 So this is like medicine, mummia.
01:36:34.000 Mummy juice.
01:36:34.000 So it's like.
01:36:36.000 This article gets fucking gross.
01:36:38.000 Mummy powder.
01:36:38.000 You sprinkle it on your stick.
01:36:41.000 They were so popular for a long time, they disappeared kind of.
01:36:45.000 It was hard to get them.
01:36:46.000 So they started forging mummy bodies.
01:36:47.000 Oh my God.
01:36:51.000 How dark is it that people bought all the dead bodies?
01:36:55.000 Not all doctors thought dry old mummies made the best medicine.
01:36:59.000 Some doctors believe that fresh meat and blood had a vitality the long dead lacked.
01:37:02.000 Those guys went to the island.
01:37:04.000 Napoleon was bringing them back, and then they would have some parties.
01:37:06.000 Quote unquote parties, but that was just still like they were doing like research almost, if you could say, like some medicine research, and then that didn't last.
01:37:15.000 It was like 30 years of that, and then they just started having actual parties to show how rich you were.
01:37:20.000 Hold up, pause right here.
01:37:22.000 1834, the surgeon Thomas Pettigrew unwrapped a mummy at the Royal College of Surgeons.
01:37:27.000 In his time, autopsies and operations took place in public, and this unwrapping was just another public medical event.
01:37:33.000 Soon, even the pretense of medical research was lost.
01:37:38.000 By now, mummies were no longer medicinal but thrilling.
01:37:40.000 A dinner host who could entertain an audience while unwrapping was rich enough to own an actual mummy.
01:37:47.000 To own an actual mummy.
01:37:49.000 The thrill of seeing dried flesh and bones appearing as bandages came off meant people flocked to these unwrappings, whether in a private home or the theater of a learned society.
01:38:00.000 Strong drink meant audiences were loud and appreciative.
01:38:04.000 And then at some point they tried to say that you were getting cursed by doing this.
01:38:08.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.
01:38:09.000 Well, didn't the people that filed Tutankhamun's tomb, did they all die?
01:38:13.000 That's what this comes up with Nexus Tutankhamun.
01:38:16.000 Yeah.
01:38:16.000 The sudden death of Lord Arnarvon.
01:38:19.000 Mm hmm.
01:38:21.000 Well, I mean, you can understand why people would think that, too.
01:38:24.000 I mean, you're going around and not just defiling the grave, man.
01:38:27.000 You eat the motherfucker?
01:38:29.000 Come on.
01:38:30.000 So, there might be something to a curse like that.
01:38:33.000 Especially if you believe it.
01:38:36.000 That's the problem.
01:38:37.000 That's how I think voodoo really works.
01:38:39.000 If you really believe that someone could put a hex on you, you're like, oh, no.
01:38:43.000 I was joking with this hippie girl in Sedona about that.
01:38:46.000 She was telling me about practical magic.
01:38:49.000 Look at this.
01:38:50.000 Today, the black market of antiquity smuggling, including mummies, Is worth about $3 billion.
01:38:58.000 So today, the black market right now, $3 billion a year.
01:39:03.000 A year?
01:39:04.000 Is that a year?
01:39:04.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:39:05.000 That's a lot.
01:39:07.000 Yeah, that's a fortune.
01:39:08.000 That's a fortune.
01:39:09.000 And just in shit that should be in a museum, $3 billion a year.
01:39:13.000 Yeah.
01:39:14.000 It just makes sense, man.
01:39:15.000 We see people that are just fucking insane and they're rich and they just want a thing that no one.
01:39:21.000 That's like the whole thing about like rhino horn, right?
01:39:24.000 They want to drink rhino horn tea because nobody could get it because it's illegal.
01:39:28.000 Yep.
01:39:28.000 You guys were talking about the Rockefellers earlier, and there's a museum started in Jerusalem where they're the Rockefeller Archaeological Museum.
01:39:36.000 They had 60,000 artifacts dating back to 2 million years ago, including a reported 100,000 year old skeleton almost complete.
01:39:47.000 Damn.
01:39:47.000 What happened?
01:39:49.000 They also had another one that was 6,500 years old that a while ago was being reported as Noah.
01:39:57.000 This is where the Dead Sea Scrolls were for a while until they were taken over and then moved to the Dead Sea Scrolls.
01:40:04.000 A different museum now that Israel has been officially formed because they were there when it wasn't actually officially Israel, I guess.
01:40:12.000 Wow.
01:40:13.000 And there's a copper scroll I just stumbled across I didn't know about that was moved to Amman and is now part of the Jordan Museum.
01:40:20.000 Wow.
01:40:21.000 What's that one look like?
01:40:22.000 It's a scroll that looks made out of metal and tin.
01:40:25.000 That was part of the Dead Sea Scrolls?
01:40:27.000 And it was made out of copper?
01:40:30.000 Whoa.
01:40:30.000 Well, that's a replica.
01:40:32.000 Well, that part is probably, I guess.
01:40:33.000 But yeah, I said it was found in Cave 3.
01:40:36.000 Where everything else is written on parchment, this was written on metal.
01:40:40.000 Holy shit.
01:40:42.000 That's insane.
01:40:43.000 Copper mixed with about 1% tin.
01:40:45.000 Although no metallic copper remained in the strips, the action of the centuries had been to convert the metal into brittle oxide.
01:40:53.000 Unlike the others, it's not a literary work, but a list of 64 places where various items of gold and silver were buried or hidden.
01:41:00.000 Not a story, it's a treasure map.
01:41:02.000 Wow, a treasure map written on copper.
01:41:05.000 In a day when copper was a treasure.
01:41:07.000 Yeah, and this is a facsimile is now on display.
01:41:07.000 Wow.
01:41:12.000 There's got to be so much we're missing.
01:41:15.000 No, so much we're missing.
01:41:16.000 So much buried stuff.
01:41:18.000 Like, just think of Sub Saharan Africa used to be lush and green.
01:41:18.000 So much.
01:41:23.000 Like, what is under there?
01:41:25.000 Yeah.
01:41:25.000 What's under there?
01:41:26.000 Yeah, that's dead on, exactly.
01:41:29.000 All across.
01:41:30.000 There's so many places in the world that are that way, if you ask me.
01:41:32.000 It's like Easter Island, when the sea levels were lower and that thing was a lot bigger and it was part of a series of islands that jumped from one to the next.
01:41:42.000 You know.
01:41:42.000 You know what navels of the world are, right?
01:41:45.000 Navals of the world like a naval.
01:41:45.000 What?
01:41:47.000 Yeah, like a world, like the Yggdrasil, the world tree, right?
01:41:50.000 Like connects the underworld here and heavens.
01:41:54.000 This idea is super common through it.
01:41:57.000 Cusco had one.
01:41:58.000 The Wailing Wall is one.
01:42:00.000 You're going to go kiss the wall?
01:42:03.000 That's a world naval.
01:42:05.000 These are always the Oracle at Delhi, world naval.
01:42:09.000 These are always centers of the society.
01:42:13.000 Right.
01:42:13.000 Jerusalem, Delhi, Cusco.
01:42:16.000 Except for there's one at Easter Island.
01:42:18.000 The far flung corner of the Polynesian Empire has a world naval.
01:42:22.000 But if you lower the sea levels and look at that as a string of islands, all of a sudden it is the center of the empire.
01:42:28.000 So I really like to ask an area.
01:42:30.000 Out of all the places on the planet, I think Easter Island has the most that if we were to because it's been dug at the least and has a lot there still.
01:42:38.000 I mean, it's been looted hard, but it hasn't been looted like Rome has been or Egypt has been, not even close.
01:42:45.000 And I think that I think honestly that there's going to be a lot more there the more that we look.
01:42:52.000 Unfortunately, stuff happens too quick.
01:42:54.000 We find the stuff, and two days later, it becomes like the tridactyl mummies.
01:42:58.000 Two days later, it becomes a news story.
01:43:00.000 Half the world, like you say, everything's all polarized now.
01:43:04.000 You could even pick and choose your fucking scientist when it comes to medicine nowadays, Joe.
01:43:09.000 It's completely polarized.
01:43:10.000 So when it comes to something like archaeology, hey, fucking, who do you want?
01:43:14.000 What side of the table do you want?
01:43:16.000 You'll find somebody with credentials or close enough that they'll get in line with you.
01:43:20.000 I was talking to a friend of mine about the South American stuff.
01:43:23.000 He said the cartels are a huge problem because they realize this $3 billion thing of selling these antiquities and they're selling stuff to people.
01:43:33.000 Luke told me, Luke Caverns, he told me that he witnessed that when he was down there.
01:43:37.000 There was a couple of places he went that he couldn't go into because there were guys with guns out in front.
01:43:41.000 Oh, wow.
01:43:42.000 Totally.
01:43:43.000 So they realized, like, hey, someone's going to give me $5 million for this head.
01:43:46.000 Yeah.
01:43:47.000 And so, again, we lose everything.
01:43:50.000 We lose all the context.
01:43:52.000 How are they not losing those mummified documents?
01:43:55.000 Tridactyl skeletons?
01:43:57.000 I'm not really sure.
01:43:58.000 That's a good question.
01:43:59.000 You know, I would imagine those are soup.
01:44:01.000 Imagine we have one of those sitting on the table right here.
01:44:04.000 That would be pretty cool.
01:44:06.000 That would be pretty cool.
01:44:07.000 How much do we have to pay for one of those?
01:44:11.000 Probably quite a bit.
01:44:11.000 Well, to that part of the world, you might get away with $250,000 like I did those codices.
01:44:16.000 The Mexican government, like I was saying, they bought those little codices pretty cheap, man.
01:44:20.000 $250,000 is a lot, but it ain't a lot when you start talking about, like, well, I said that to Matt Bell, if you know who Matt Bell is.
01:44:26.000 Okay.
01:44:27.000 He was like, that's nothing.
01:44:28.000 Well, of course, to him, it's nothing, but immediately the guy that has the money, the 250 grand, fucking put that on my shelf.
01:44:33.000 Frame that bitch.
01:44:34.000 Meanwhile, he could have probably auctioned that.
01:44:37.000 It was a family that was afraid to.
01:44:38.000 And honestly, that family had been holding it for like 500 years.
01:44:41.000 And in all honesty, I bet they were afraid.
01:44:46.000 The way things are going, I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was some strong arming that went on there.
01:44:50.000 You can either get paid for it, or we take it.
01:44:54.000 Just like when the mob, do you want paid off for this, or do you want beat on the head?
01:44:57.000 Right, right.
01:44:58.000 It's just, you wonder how much is lost.
01:45:01.000 Like the burning of the Library of Alexandria, all these different instances throughout history, the burning of the codexes.
01:45:07.000 What is this?
01:45:08.000 This is a website that's got art from ancient Peru for sale.
01:45:12.000 For sale.
01:45:13.000 Yeah, there's tons of interesting stuff here.
01:45:16.000 Right, the question is how do you know if it's authentic?
01:45:18.000 That's a huge question.
01:45:19.000 Because there's a lot of this stuff that's counterfeit.
01:45:23.000 Wow, that's dope.
01:45:23.000 Look at that mask.
01:45:24.000 It shows the provenance of it.
01:45:26.000 So this one comes from an archaeologist that.
01:45:28.000 From 1938.
01:45:29.000 How much does that cost?
01:45:30.000 It says $3,500 or something.
01:45:32.000 Should we get one?
01:45:33.000 $4,850.
01:45:35.000 How big is that?
01:45:36.000 I'm not buying one.
01:45:36.000 How about that?
01:45:37.000 Would you get cursed?
01:45:38.000 No, it says $4,850 on something.
01:45:42.000 I better be able to drive it around or smoke it once.
01:45:44.000 Recent accolades.
01:45:47.000 Egyptian bronze cobra.
01:45:49.000 Wow.
01:45:50.000 Somebody bought that.
01:45:51.000 For $2,000.
01:45:52.000 Add to cart right now.
01:45:52.000 Wow.
01:45:54.000 Wow.
01:45:55.000 Bam.
01:45:56.000 Kind of sick.
01:45:57.000 I was always from, how old is it?
01:46:00.000 664 to 30 BCE.
01:46:03.000 Wow.
01:46:03.000 Provenance.
01:46:04.000 Ex private New York City Egyptologist collection.
01:46:07.000 Private New York City.
01:46:08.000 Yeah, the provenance is weird on all these.
01:46:10.000 Everything's coming from different places.
01:46:12.000 It's interesting because that's not that expensive for what it is.
01:46:12.000 Yeah.
01:46:15.000 You got a piece of Egyptian history.
01:46:17.000 Yeah.
01:46:18.000 Well, the Providence thing is kind of a big deal.
01:46:20.000 If the Providence on them is solid and it's after a certain date, you can't sell them.
01:46:23.000 Show me what that image looks like.
01:46:25.000 So, how come this person can sell this?
01:46:27.000 Yeah, because the Providence is going to come before that date.
01:46:30.000 Like they're going to have been found before that date.
01:46:34.000 It's like.
01:46:35.000 Legally acquired.
01:46:36.000 So, if it wasn't legally acquired, I bet they'd get you.
01:46:36.000 Yes.
01:46:41.000 So, the laws are probably much stricter now than when they acquired it?
01:46:44.000 It's kind of like assault rifles where there's like a time when you can, it's okay to have bought them, but if you bought it after that date, you Can't have it or like pre ban ivory, thank you.
01:46:44.000 Yeah.
01:46:54.000 Yeah, same kind of thing.
01:46:55.000 It's like if you've had this artifact on your family, we're not going to go raiding the Rockefeller shelves, but you know, the rest of you fuckers can't have any new ones.
01:47:03.000 You get a gold wing deity pendant for 67 grand, gold shaman.
01:47:08.000 Yo, damn, son, bro, he got six fingers.
01:47:14.000 What's that from?
01:47:15.000 Oh, and also, look, he's got the I guess we say monkey on top of his head, like that, and a two on the side.
01:47:20.000 Why does it say price on a request?
01:47:23.000 Uh, maybe that's estimated here.
01:47:25.000 Yeah, so when it says a gold standing shaman, is that actual gold made out of gold?
01:47:33.000 There it is 89% gold.
01:47:35.000 What you can just buy that?
01:47:40.000 Well, look how dope he looks.
01:47:42.000 Look at the image on the side.
01:47:43.000 Go to the side view.
01:47:45.000 The other one, I think it's made in China.
01:47:49.000 Well, it's hollow.
01:47:50.000 I bet.
01:47:50.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:47:51.000 Yeah, I kind of has to be hollow.
01:47:52.000 Oh, this one weigh 100 pounds.
01:47:54.000 Yeah, look at that.
01:47:55.000 What a sick looking thing.
01:47:57.000 Show me the front facing view again.
01:48:00.000 That is wild.
01:48:01.000 Wild, man.
01:48:03.000 And how old is this supposed to be?
01:48:04.000 Fuck, that's cool.
01:48:07.000 That would bring you good luck.
01:48:09.000 Put that on your desk.
01:48:11.000 Monkey look.
01:48:13.000 I think he's got some nipples.
01:48:13.000 Fucking mess.
01:48:15.000 Oh, does he.
01:48:16.000 Oh, when I was looking at the things hanging around, I hope he doesn't have trophy skulls.
01:48:20.000 Could be.
01:48:22.000 Look at his hands.
01:48:23.000 Looks like those are cups, but they're faces.
01:48:25.000 They look.
01:48:26.000 But they're stamens with heads up top.
01:48:27.000 They do look like heads.
01:48:29.000 Does he have two heads in his hands?
01:48:31.000 He's got way more than five fingers.
01:48:32.000 He's got seven.
01:48:34.000 Maybe even eight if he's got a thumb.
01:48:36.000 Again, you can meet that guy three hits of DMT.
01:48:41.000 He's out there.
01:48:43.000 Show me the face forward version of the top.
01:48:46.000 This one's been in Alabama for a while, Ted.
01:48:50.000 Wow.
01:48:52.000 Crazy.
01:48:53.000 I'm sorry, and how old is it again?
01:48:54.000 That's what I was trying to look up.
01:48:58.000 500 to 1528 years.
01:49:00.000 It could even be like 500 years old.
01:49:02.000 Either way, that's nuts.
01:49:04.000 That's pretty interesting.
01:49:07.000 You could put it on a chain.
01:49:08.000 Weighs 148 grams.
01:49:12.000 What's that in a pound?
01:49:13.000 I don't think it's a lot.
01:49:19.000 We're all doing weed math now.
01:49:19.000 28.
01:49:21.000 Half a pound, maybe.
01:49:24.000 We're doing weed math.
01:49:26.000 What is 128 grams in pounds?
01:49:32.000 Yeah, 0.28 pounds.
01:49:34.000 A quarter of a pound.
01:49:36.000 Wow.
01:49:37.000 Pretty sick.
01:49:38.000 That is cool.
01:49:39.000 It just makes you wonder what were they trying to do?
01:49:42.000 What is that?
01:49:43.000 What is that guy?
01:49:44.000 Is that a guy you see when you trip?
01:49:46.000 Because it seems like it, especially he's all gold.
01:49:50.000 It seems like something you would see if you were tripping.
01:49:52.000 Yeah.
01:49:53.000 A lot of that stuff, a lot of it gets really difficult for me because then I wonder about like our iconography.
01:50:00.000 And it's like, you know, somebody could look at something like that belt and be like, I wonder what the symbolism is behind that belt.
01:50:06.000 At the end of the day, it's like, no, no symbolism.
01:50:09.000 It's just, it looks cool, man.
01:50:10.000 Or a mascot for a team, you know?
01:50:12.000 Exactly.
01:50:13.000 Why is everybody worshiping this Spuds McKenzie?
01:50:15.000 Right, right, right, right.
01:50:17.000 Why is everybody making the bullhorns at the UT game?
01:50:19.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:50:21.000 But some of these things are clearly religious and spiritual and stand the test of time.
01:50:28.000 Like, there's a lot of things, the honoring of people with deformations down there went for thousands of years.
01:50:34.000 I mean, this went from the Olmec all the way up till the time that the Spaniards show up.
01:50:40.000 I think what's really fascinating is there are so many things that point to South America, so many things that point particularly to Peru.
01:50:48.000 So many things.
01:50:49.000 When you look at the megalithic architecture, especially the oldest stuff, the weird, crazy shapes, and then you also look at the elongated heads, and then you also look at the artwork that you'd only see from the sky.
01:51:02.000 Like, how many of these fucking things do you have to see before you went, what was going on here?
01:51:07.000 You should look at some of their textiles that they made in Paracas.
01:51:10.000 Like, I showed that little monkey thing.
01:51:12.000 Those guys were so good.
01:51:14.000 If you don't mind pulling up a picture of Paracas textiles, Jamie, they were so fucking amazing that these, like, when I first read about them, I was like, meh.
01:51:21.000 And then I looked at some pictures, and these are like, they're otherworldly.
01:51:26.000 To think that these things were being made over a thousand years ago, 2,000 years ago.
01:51:31.000 When you see them, they're a bunch of little people with just feathers pointed to one side like they're in motion, dancing and shit.
01:51:40.000 Like, pick that one you're on right now, Jamie.
01:51:43.000 It's a great one.
01:51:44.000 This one here?
01:51:46.000 No, that yellow one you were hovering over.
01:51:48.000 The ones with the people.
01:51:49.000 Look at that.
01:51:49.000 That's a textile.
01:51:51.000 Look at that shit.
01:51:52.000 2,000 years old.
01:51:53.000 Fucking how beautiful that is, how well made that is.
01:51:53.000 Look at it.
01:51:56.000 Again, you can see that if you trip.
01:51:57.000 Yeah.
01:51:58.000 It's very trippy, right?
01:52:00.000 It is.
01:52:01.000 It's very psychedelic looking.
01:52:02.000 It's very psychedelic, but then you consider that that same culture was doing all these brain surgeries.
01:52:07.000 They were doing the lines on the ground you were talking about.
01:52:11.000 They were modifying skulls.
01:52:12.000 They were building things.
01:52:13.000 And they had people, artisans like this.
01:52:17.000 This was a culture.
01:52:18.000 This was a full blown civilization that was above and beyond anything that we give them credit to at this time.
01:52:25.000 I mean, look, yeah, definitely DMT looking, but Also, holy shit, man.
01:52:28.000 Look at how artistic that is.
01:52:31.000 I know.
01:52:32.000 Look at the little faces that are coming out of his whatever the fuck's wrapped around his nose.
01:52:35.000 Yeah, that boy's having a bad trip.
01:52:37.000 Just wild.
01:52:38.000 It is wild art.
01:52:40.000 And beautiful.
01:52:41.000 So beautiful.
01:52:42.000 And so, like everything else in that culture, they were just, it just seemed to be so massively ahead of all their contemporaries.
01:52:51.000 Again, they had that symbol that Paracas Condolabra is visible 12 miles out to sea.
01:52:59.000 You could think about hopping down the coast looking for that.
01:52:59.000 Right.
01:53:02.000 You could think about guys from Easter Island looking for that or from Polynesia looking for that.
01:53:06.000 We've got DNA that supports all that.
01:53:08.000 There's a genetic drift both directions.
01:53:10.000 It looks like people went from Easter Island to Peru and then back, is what it looks like according to the genetics.
01:53:16.000 And that was the big sign.
01:53:18.000 Like, welcome.
01:53:18.000 Yeah, that's my thinking.
01:53:20.000 I mean, and again, it's like, hey, here we're mingling all.
01:53:23.000 Even if it was just here's the guys from the islands and here's the guys from up north and here's us, it still seems like a symbol of like a mixing to me, like a convergence.
01:53:31.000 like a convergence.
01:53:35.000 The DNA stuff, again, that's where it really all got me going on it because it's just you pick your genetic deformation and you see it there.
01:53:44.000 Again, with the back of the skull, that's just to me, it's like smoking gun.
01:53:47.000 It's like, why were they doing this?
01:53:48.000 Well, here's a very solid, real explanation.
01:53:51.000 And then think about like the evolutionary arms race.
01:53:54.000 This culture is working on bigger brains that has all the intelligence of this species and the ability to see and hear that this species has.
01:54:03.000 We're trying to get the best of both worlds and these guys aren't.
01:54:06.000 You're going to get wiped out by us in a thousand years, 5,000, 10,000.
01:54:09.000 Evolution is going to kill you off and prop these up.
01:54:12.000 I think it happened all over the fucking world, and Paracas is just the last place that was still doing it.
01:54:18.000 But I think that that elongated skulls, that's why we see it all over the world.
01:54:21.000 As soon as humans, as soon as Homo sapiens and archaic lineages with bigger brains than us on the back started mingling, I think this was like a requirement.
01:54:30.000 This is all post Younger Dries impact, too.
01:54:33.000 Live right around.
01:54:35.000 That's like the oldest skulls that we know of are around 10,000 BC.
01:54:38.000 The oldest.
01:54:39.000 That we know ever in the oldest, the oldest post.
01:54:42.000 Yes, just right after.
01:54:43.000 Right afterwards in China.
01:54:45.000 So that's the other part of the question.
01:54:47.000 It's like if there was a cataclysmic event that wiped out vast chunks of civilization, how much was left?
01:54:56.000 How much survived?
01:54:58.000 Because it seemed like South America didn't get hit as hard as North America and parts of Europe and Asia, right?
01:55:05.000 Yeah, and Africa was almost unscathed.
01:55:07.000 Right, right, right, right.
01:55:09.000 Comparably, at least according to the megafaunas, right?
01:55:12.000 Right, which is so that gets real weird.
01:55:14.000 It does.
01:55:15.000 It's like, so okay, were those people down in South America fine?
01:55:18.000 And what happened?
01:55:20.000 Was that where advanced civilization existed on Earth in the only place because advanced civilization in these other places had been wiped out?
01:55:27.000 That's honestly, I think that that makes the most sense to me.
01:55:27.000 Yeah.
01:55:31.000 And what happened to them?
01:55:32.000 That's the real question.
01:55:33.000 Well, the Paracas people?
01:55:34.000 What happened before the fall?
01:55:36.000 Well, what happened to the people that built these megalithic structures?
01:55:39.000 What happened to the society that existed?
01:55:41.000 Was it just time?
01:55:42.000 Yeah, I think so.
01:55:45.000 They still had, you know, by the time of the Spanish showing up, the Inca were still doing those trephanations in the skull so well that they were up to an 80% survival rate.
01:55:55.000 The Civil War was about 40%, by the way.
01:55:58.000 Like our Civil War doctors, in the American Civil War, the only Civil War, our doctors were about at 40%, about half as good as the Inca at drilling holes in heads and letting somebody survive.
01:56:08.000 I mean, fuck, dude.
01:56:09.000 And why were they drilling holes in heads?
01:56:11.000 Same reason because it released pressure.
01:56:12.000 Like, I'm saying that they were doing it as one of the reasons to relieve the pressure from the headache.
01:56:18.000 But if you just get somebody hit you in the head hard enough, you're going to swallow up in the brain.
01:56:22.000 You've got to relieve pressure.
01:56:24.000 So they drill a hole to get it out.
01:56:26.000 This was, yeah, a lot of the musket balls that didn't kill a man outright would leave water on the brain kind of thing.
01:56:33.000 So they'd have to do what they could to relieve the pressure.
01:56:36.000 Lee.
01:56:36.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:56:37.000 It's ugly when you.
01:56:39.000 I would not want to have.
01:56:41.000 If I would have got shot in the Civil War battlefield, knowing what I know now, I'd say just fucking shoot me right here and finish the job.
01:56:47.000 So my question is like, Why don't we see people that live in Peru with larger heads and elongated skulls today?
01:56:53.000 Probably because it's illegal to do it.
01:56:56.000 Is that it?
01:56:58.000 Is it just a deformation thing, or is it a deformation thing, you know, manipulated thing on top of a cranial deformation that's natural?
01:57:06.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:57:07.000 No, if it was the partial natural cranial deformation, I think eventually that would have been bred to be smaller and smaller and less of a pronounced issue.
01:57:15.000 Like I was showing those bones in the back that basically do the play and stuff.
01:57:22.000 The back that basically do the play and stuff.
01:57:25.000 I think that over time, we would evolve more accommodating things for it, but that it's still, I mean, we still have people that have those Chiari malformations today.
01:57:34.000 You know, that CAT scan wasn't from 2,000 years ago.
01:57:36.000 People still have this issue.
01:57:39.000 But I think that over time, you know, the ones that were too bad at it, their brains are just too fucking big.
01:57:45.000 They're going to die off.
01:57:46.000 And honestly, I think that there was probably some of that Inca type of clan warfare going on.
01:57:51.000 Now, that's just complete speculation, but I mean, there was something.
01:57:56.000 I don't know – there was something about a thousand years ago that caused all the cliff dwellers and all that shit – like there was – none of these people lived in the cliff dwellings like 2,000 years ago, and then they all moved into the cliffs and they all stayed for like 100 years and they came back out.
01:58:09.000 There was some war going on.
01:58:10.000 You'd see a tribe of about 5,000 people would split up into a bunch of little bands of 200 at the most.
01:58:18.000 The Gila Cliff dwellings, they say, had about 60 people that lived in them.
01:58:21.000 60.
01:58:23.000 It's nothing.
01:58:24.000 And they came from a place of about a thousand.
01:58:26.000 So, you think they were trying to survive raiders?
01:58:28.000 I think it was pretty clearly warfare.
01:58:32.000 And an interesting side note something that I've never I went to the Gila Cliff Dwellings when I came through here last month, and I drove a buddy of mine, we drove through New Mexico and the big old oil fields of Texas, and we stopped at the Gila Cliff Dwellings.
01:58:46.000 And so I looked them up afterwards to make my video about it, and they redacted that the artifacts and shit are redacted.
01:58:53.000 It looks like reading a fucking Epstein list emails.
01:58:55.000 It's just like black bar, black bar, black bar, black bar.
01:58:58.000 And what am I looking for?
01:58:59.000 Just what they found.
01:59:00.000 And this is just the people that lived in the cliffs?
01:59:02.000 Yeah.
01:59:03.000 Like, why would they redact?
01:59:04.000 The archaeologists, this is the peer reviewed archaeology, like the papers that they submitted afterwards.
01:59:10.000 They just because of what they found.
01:59:13.000 The explanation given is they redact information so that people don't go digging up shit, right?
01:59:19.000 So they're like, okay, except for in the same paper it says, we didn't dig here and we think there's artifacts here a few different times.
01:59:25.000 They're redacting the things that they found and the people that took them, and on some occasions where they were found.
01:59:32.000 And it's not the only thing in the Southwest that's that way.
01:59:36.000 The more I look, I see it's fairly common.
01:59:38.000 Why do you think they're doing that?
01:59:39.000 They're finding something they don't want people to know.
01:59:42.000 Maybe they're selling on the black market, would be the most obvious explanation, but like the most mundane.
01:59:46.000 But when it becomes a ubiquitous problem, the short answer is the same as why they cover up the Shell and the Epstein list to cover it up, to hide it.
01:59:57.000 There's something there they don't want you to know.
01:59:59.000 I don't know.
01:59:59.000 And what for sure?
02:00:00.000 I can't read it under the black bars.
02:00:01.000 What could you even speculate?
02:00:02.000 Like, what would they be trying to hide?
02:00:04.000 It could be nothing.
02:00:05.000 It could be nothing more than an out of place artifact.
02:00:05.000 Dwelling civilizations.
02:00:09.000 It could be an out of place artifact.
02:00:11.000 How so?
02:00:12.000 What do you mean?
02:00:13.000 You mean like what we consider the anti Kithir mechanism to be something that's more advanced for its time.
02:00:19.000 So if they just found something that, say they don't think that these guys could work iron and they found an iron arrowhead there that wasn't a trade piece, it was pre Columbian.
02:00:28.000 You think they would redact that?
02:00:30.000 I don't know, but I know they redacted a lot.
02:00:34.000 Is a possible explanation that they just redacted where these things were so that people wouldn't go back to the area?
02:00:41.000 Aaron Powell It would be if they didn't have so much of the stuff that was like it'll say, We went to this site and we found Black Bar.
02:00:54.000 And then we went to this site and we found Black Bar.
02:00:58.000 So and so took Black Bar.
02:01:00.000 And then it'll be another site that it says, At this site, we thought there would be some artifacts that we haven't dug yet.
02:01:05.000 Why is that site not Black Barred?
02:01:08.000 That's the one that's.
02:01:09.000 That's the one I want to go to because that's the one you said there's still shit left to dig up.
02:01:09.000 I'm.
02:01:14.000 Right.
02:01:14.000 But that's the one, according to their explanation, that's the one they'd black bar.
02:01:18.000 But they don't black bar that one.
02:01:20.000 When they black.
02:01:20.000 They black.
02:01:21.000 So it honestly looks convoluted.
02:01:23.000 It looks like they're selling a false bill of goods with that.
02:01:28.000 I haven't.
02:01:29.000 What are the other possibilities of the reason why they would redact it other than out of place artifacts?
02:01:33.000 The first one, like honestly, the most mundane is just to sell stuff.
02:01:37.000 That's a really cool fucking piece.
02:01:38.000 I'm going to go sell it to Rockefeller.
02:01:40.000 And that could be it.
02:01:41.000 That could be it.
02:01:41.000 And that way they don't have to say what was there.
02:01:44.000 They redact it and then there's no need to explain where it went.
02:01:48.000 That's right.
02:01:48.000 That makes more sense.
02:01:49.000 That makes the most sense.
02:01:50.000 It makes the most sense.
02:01:51.000 It does make the most sense.
02:01:52.000 That's got money in mind.
02:01:53.000 Straight and mundane.
02:01:54.000 Yeah.
02:01:54.000 Yep.
02:01:55.000 And people love those things.
02:01:57.000 But it's become, like I say, it's all over the Southwest.
02:02:03.000 It's not just one or two sites.
02:02:06.000 I just stumbled onto it because I was looking up the Gila Clifton ones because it happened to have been there.
02:02:11.000 And that's where, I mean, I haven't dug into it enough to put it all together, but it's, you know, when I was here last time, the cover up stuff was something I was a whole lot less liable.
02:02:21.000 I was a whole lot less accepting of a top down kind of cover up thing.
02:02:26.000 But the skull stuff has honestly got me where it's just like, dude, there's too much of this information that disappears.
02:02:31.000 It disappears as I use it.
02:02:34.000 I link it in the video and two weeks later I can't fucking find it again.
02:02:36.000 It's like at a certain point it becomes quite obvious that something's being hidden.
02:02:42.000 When the maps change over 100 years and we lose information, you get on Google and ask for the Island of Nui elongated skull and it'll tell you it never happened, but then you can bring up a bunch of expeditions of people that had them from the.
02:02:55.000 It's constant.
02:02:56.000 It's a constant.
02:02:58.000 The information is just not easily accessible.
02:03:00.000 It's hidden.
02:03:01.000 And I don't know why.
02:03:01.000 It's covered up.
02:03:03.000 100% don't know why.
02:03:05.000 I've got some suspicions.
02:03:06.000 I think some of it probably has to do with people's belief systems as to where we came from.
02:03:14.000 To give you an example, archaeology, science in general, fought against the idea of gradualism and catastrophism, depending on.
02:03:23.000 In the early days of science, it was out to prove the Bible.
02:03:26.000 So things like erosion weren't what was looked at.
02:03:28.000 It was things like floods and the walls of Jericho collapsing.
02:03:32.000 But then the evolution and then geology, it's about the same time.
02:03:36.000 It's really slow, gradual.
02:03:37.000 So it became gradualism was the rule of the day.
02:03:40.000 And I shit you not, these two did not become melded together in what they call punctuated equilibrium until 1980 with the discovery of the KT impact disaster.
02:03:51.000 The whole Sixth Lib crater, when they accepted that, the scientific community finally figured out what a fucking five year old could tell you that looked out the window every day.
02:04:00.000 Sometimes things happen slowly and gradually.
02:04:03.000 Other times things happen catastrophically and fast.
02:04:06.000 It took science 100 years to wrap its fucking head around that because of preconceived ideas based on the Bible and where we came from.
02:04:12.000 I wouldn't be surprised at all if that same kind of psychology was here.
02:04:16.000 Evolution's bullshit.
02:04:18.000 This proves.
02:04:19.000 Who knows?
02:04:20.000 But it seems like the psychology side of it seems most likely to me that there's some underlying reason that they're just pushing a narrative and that this flies in the face of it.
02:04:32.000 But again, that's total speculation on my part.
02:04:33.000 Aaron Powell, Jr.
02:04:34.000 One of the weirdest aspects of this whole UAP thing.
02:04:37.000 Was that there were supposedly meetings with pastors where they were talking about some imminent disclosure that was going to be very disturbing to some of their people.
02:04:50.000 And the speculation was that it was some sort of evidence of human engineering, like that human beings had been genetically engineered and that religion itself had been made by extraterrestrials in order to placate mankind and keep everybody calm and together.
02:05:13.000 Sure.
02:05:13.000 I mean, it's interesting stories, but.
02:05:16.000 But the weirdest one, like all the religion stuff made by aliens seems goofy.
02:05:21.000 People made by aliens seems less goofy.
02:05:24.000 It seems like something we would do.
02:05:27.000 If you went to another planet and you found monkeys and you said, well, let's take these monkeys and add a little, do a little of this, do a little of that.
02:05:36.000 I mean, if there's evidence that people were doing that in Peru, if that's real, we know that the Nazis were eugenists.
02:05:44.000 We know that that's a concept.
02:05:47.000 That people do things like that.
02:05:49.000 We know that we engage in genetic engineering of animals.
02:05:52.000 We know that we brought back the dire wolf.
02:05:55.000 There's a lot of weird stuff that we do.
02:05:57.000 Now, imagine something infinitely more advanced than us that finds us and goes, a lot of potential in these genes.
02:06:05.000 Add a little.
02:06:07.000 Cut 100 million years out of the fucking evolutionary biological process.
02:06:11.000 Let's just fucking ramp these motherfuckers up right quick.
02:06:15.000 Go to the Zachariah Stitching route and make them lust for gold and silver and then.
02:06:20.000 Every so often, we'll just come back, raid Fort Knox, call it a day.
02:06:22.000 It's also the Book of Enoch.
02:06:24.000 It's really interesting.
02:06:24.000 Yeah.
02:06:27.000 There's a lot of these things that do seem to line up with it.
02:06:30.000 The ancient alien stuff is Super weird.
02:06:32.000 It's honestly using the same kind of thinking that you were just using on the black bars.
02:06:40.000 It's like it's always the aliens are always the last thing I want to posit because it's just the most unlikely.
02:06:47.000 Well, like, you know, I was one of the ancient alien guys, David Childress.
02:06:53.000 I was in his living room talking with him about it, and he couldn't quite get where my brain is on this because I'm skeptical, but not, I guess.
02:07:00.000 And I told him basically, I said, look at it like this.
02:07:04.000 If you walked into the bathroom right now and you came back in here and your wallet was missing, now I could tell you that a dog came in here and grabbed your wallet and ran out the door with it.
02:07:14.000 I could tell you an alien came in here and grabbed your wallet and ran out the door with it, but you're going to think that I fucking did it.
02:07:18.000 That doesn't mean there's no aliens.
02:07:20.000 It doesn't mean there's no dogs.
02:07:21.000 It just means that we all know what's most likely.
02:07:23.000 And you really use that, that it's just like with the black bars.
02:07:28.000 It's like, yeah, maybe it's an out of place artifact, or maybe he's just selling it to some fucking cocksucker.
02:07:31.000 And so that's where I always, I'm not opposed to the idea of ancient aliens, but you got to get me there.
02:07:38.000 But then on the flip side, like what you said about them changing us, I mean, you could take that even to the ounce degree.
02:07:44.000 Look at like you've seen the idea that the pyramids were chemical purification plants, the land of chem, right?
02:07:50.000 One of the things that he says jokingly, but he'll say if an alien race came here and you were trying to set up shop, one of the first things you would do would be set up ways to make chemicals and make the stuff that you need to make your society, and you would use what was local and what was available.
02:08:06.000 That does jive, right?
02:08:08.000 It does make sense.
02:08:10.000 So there's always I mean, I'm not completely opposed to the ideas, but there's some things that the Occam's razor is a lot sharper on some things than others, I guess you could put it.
02:08:18.000 But I think the most complex thing.
02:08:18.000 But I agree.
02:08:21.000 The most perplexing part about the pyramids is just that they exist at all.
02:08:26.000 That they exist at all and that they're 4,500 years old at least.
02:08:26.000 Agreed.
02:08:30.000 It doesn't make sense.
02:08:32.000 Not even a real thing.
02:08:34.000 It just doesn't make sense.
02:08:35.000 It doesn't make sense that something that is so involved and so massive and so complex and clearly has a tremendous amount of planning and geometry and understanding of so many different aspects of construction that we have no idea.
02:08:51.000 How they accomplished it.
02:08:53.000 There's just too many things that line up with that where you just go, what is going on?
02:08:59.000 Isn't it possible that we're missing something?
02:09:03.000 Absolutely.
02:09:03.000 We're definitely missing something with the pyramids.
02:09:06.000 We're definitely missing something with the pyramids.
02:09:08.000 I mean, this is you know, they think it was 28 years that the Great Pyramid was built in.
02:09:15.000 28 years.
02:09:16.000 Trevor Burrus, based on written records and their assumptions that Herodotus was right when he wrote about that part.
02:09:22.000 They just disregard the rest.
02:09:24.000 Herodotus wrote about that maze of Saqqara?
02:09:26.000 Fuck that noise.
02:09:27.000 28 year pyramid?
02:09:29.000 Yeah.
02:09:30.000 And I've told so many archaeologists why don't you go build a fucking fire pit in your backyard with cinder blocks and get back to me on that 28 years?
02:09:36.000 It's like you guys don't own a fucking tool belt.
02:09:40.000 There is no way.
02:09:41.000 Well, you could have it, and you'd have all these teams of people doing all the.
02:09:45.000 There's millions of stones.
02:09:48.000 I worked in construction for a long time.
02:09:51.000 Oh, this is the one in China.
02:09:52.000 Architects and engineers fuck shit up.
02:09:54.000 Heard of this place?
02:09:55.000 Yes.
02:09:55.000 Yeah.
02:09:55.000 That one's nuts.
02:09:56.000 I saw this one recently, but the thing I thought was very strange.
02:09:59.000 They said it was abandoned in like the 14th century, the Yangsheng Quarry.
02:10:04.000 These nubs are on this thing.
02:10:07.000 We've talked about the nubs being on.
02:10:09.000 Yeah, they're everywhere, all over the world.
02:10:12.000 They were saying that they had a plan, obviously, when they were starting to make it.
02:10:18.000 So the nubs were cut on purpose, but they then abandoned it because they figured that they made them too big to move, which is kind of that fucking thing.
02:10:29.000 They had good planning, but then they also had bad planning.
02:10:31.000 So do you think the nubs were involved in the lifting and maneuvering of these things?
02:10:36.000 Not of that one.
02:10:37.000 I mean, that would have to be the plan, I would say, if that's why they were purposefully here and they're all over it.
02:10:42.000 That one looks like it's carved right into the ground, though, right into the rock.
02:10:46.000 That doesn't look like a rock that was placed there.
02:10:48.000 I might be wrong.
02:10:49.000 No, this is still like they hadn't moved.
02:10:51.000 These never got moved.
02:10:52.000 Right.
02:10:52.000 Yeah.
02:10:53.000 So it's, but it's a part of a quarry where things did get moved.
02:10:56.000 Right.
02:10:56.000 That's what's really crazy.
02:10:57.000 Like, look at that gap.
02:10:58.000 If you go back to that last picture that you just had, look at the gap between those two stones.
02:11:03.000 Now imagine that that was an individual piece of stone that was removed from that gap and somehow placed somewhere.
02:11:10.000 And again, how long ago and who fucking did it?
02:11:14.000 Who did it and how'd you do it?
02:11:16.000 How'd you do that?
02:11:18.000 What are you using?
02:11:20.000 Yes.
02:11:21.000 And to say that's not a mystery is fucking nuts.
02:11:24.000 Look at that.
02:11:27.000 I don't understand why they want to get rid of the side of the mystery to begin with.
02:11:31.000 Look at how that looks.
02:11:33.000 That looks like someone cut that out.
02:11:37.000 Well, I mean, they started to, but with what?
02:11:40.000 Right.
02:11:41.000 But look how big it is.
02:11:42.000 Look how big the slab is that's next to that structure, the one above it.
02:11:47.000 Yeah, that thing.
02:11:48.000 Look how big that is.
02:11:49.000 Like, was that cut out?
02:11:52.000 It looks like it was cut out.
02:11:54.000 It looks like a little carving inside of it, even.
02:11:56.000 Yeah.
02:11:56.000 There's a similar, I'm trying to remember where it was in my head, but it looks like it's floating.
02:12:01.000 I think it's in China, too, where it looks like this, but it was put on top of like this very small little bit of water.
02:12:08.000 I know what you're talking about.
02:12:09.000 It's like a fortress or something.
02:12:10.000 Damn.
02:12:12.000 I don't want to sidetrack, but I'm going to.
02:12:14.000 I was looking into this elongated heads thing.
02:12:16.000 It was going on in France up until World War I. Yep.
02:12:21.000 Whoa.
02:12:23.000 And why I'm finding a very interesting thing here.
02:12:26.000 A lot of Neanderthals in France.
02:12:27.000 Well, so they were.
02:12:28.000 Yeah, it was.
02:12:29.000 Yeah.
02:12:31.000 Fashion, baby bonnets were.
02:12:32.000 Turn to the left, fashion.
02:12:34.000 And why baby bonnets were tied on the baby's heads.
02:12:39.000 They did it a little bit of fashion, a little bit for protection.
02:12:43.000 But there's something here I kind of stumbled across on.
02:12:46.000 And if you go back further in history, it could make more sense that they're protecting them from spirits.
02:12:51.000 Mm hmm.
02:12:52.000 And if you tied it tight enough, nothing's getting in there.
02:12:55.000 Oh, boy.
02:12:56.000 And that reshaped the head.
02:12:58.000 And it was a.
02:12:59.000 Eyes were on purpose.
02:13:01.000 Look at that poor kid.
02:13:02.000 Oh, God.
02:13:03.000 Not on purpose to reshape the head, but that's just what happened.
02:13:05.000 Like, look at that baby.
02:13:07.000 Like I said, eyes bulging out like a mouse caught in a trap.
02:13:10.000 Oh, fuck, man.
02:13:11.000 It might have been a protection to just, like, keep your kids were dying for, you know, all sorts of reasons back then.
02:13:11.000 Yeah.
02:13:17.000 If they thought something would get into their head to kill them, too, they probably would do anything they could to protect them.
02:13:22.000 Yeah.
02:13:22.000 Now, you can't increase the capacity.
02:13:25.000 Yeah, it didn't increase capacity, is what I was saying.
02:13:27.000 Right.
02:13:28.000 That's what they say.
02:13:29.000 It's, that one's, I mean.
02:13:31.000 Could you?
02:13:31.000 Well, I don't know.
02:13:32.000 Could you stretch it?
02:13:33.000 I honestly don't know.
02:13:34.000 I, it's, that one's kind of frustrating just because it's, again, you get, you can pick your expert.
02:13:39.000 There's people that will say these elongated skulls have a higher capacity.
02:13:42.000 There's people that say they don't.
02:13:44.000 And since you can't go put your fingers on them, fucking pick your expert.
02:13:50.000 Here we are again, right back where we started.
02:13:53.000 What's your opinion?
02:13:54.000 Well, that's the truth, my friend.
02:13:55.000 And welcome to 2026.
02:13:57.000 Fuck.
02:13:58.000 It's so interesting, particularly Peru.
02:14:01.000 I mean, when you just all the different things that point to a spectacularly odd society.
02:14:09.000 Oh, man.
02:14:09.000 Yeah.
02:14:10.000 And you just go, what was it like, man?
02:14:12.000 What was reality for them?
02:14:14.000 Why did they make those Nazca lines?
02:14:16.000 Why did they make those beautiful drawings that you could only see from the sky?
02:14:22.000 The Pacific Northwest has some shit that's pretty wild.
02:14:25.000 They was Mount Coffin, which is the place I told you where they saw those 3,000 burials.
02:14:33.000 In the early 1900s, the Portland Star and Cement Company bought Mount Coffin.
02:14:38.000 And the pictures from before are, it's like a.
02:14:42.000 Basalt formation and it looks partially modified.
02:14:45.000 I've got three pictures of it there, Jamie, if you don't mind.
02:14:47.000 The first one was just Mount Coffin.
02:14:49.000 It was like some people, I think it says basalt or something, but there's like some people on it.
02:14:53.000 The Portland Star and Gravel Company bought it and they mined it all away.
02:14:57.000 Daughters of the American Revolution tried to buy it.
02:14:59.000 The Illuminati dude that was all like crazy.
02:15:03.000 Yeah, that's the picture of it there.
02:15:04.000 There's a picture of a bunch of people standing on it.
02:15:06.000 I think it might be the next one over.
02:15:09.000 It's like a bunch of.
02:15:11.000 Dude standing on this basalt formation.
02:15:13.000 It's a skinnier pick, sorry.
02:15:15.000 But you can kind of see there where it might be artificially modified.
02:15:18.000 The locals say there was all kinds of cool treasure in there.
02:15:21.000 Now, the dude that built Longview, R.A. Long, Raw Long, built Longview in the shape of a pyramid.
02:15:28.000 The floor plan of Longview, not only has it got a pyramid floor plan, it's actually got a little, from the center going out like a little cul de sac that goes out like it's got the focal star from the pyramid coming out of it.
02:15:38.000 It's fucking crazy.
02:15:40.000 The floor plan of Longview, if you just.
02:15:43.000 But the streets were paved of the four main pyramid arcs were paved with the gravel that came from that mountain.
02:15:54.000 The town is like a goose.
02:15:55.000 Can I see some images?
02:15:57.000 I'm stuck around the 1900s.
02:15:58.000 Yeah, I'm trying to restart.
02:16:00.000 Okay.
02:16:01.000 But yeah, the guy it was pretty nuts.
02:16:04.000 The guy was like he was a member of the Freemason stuff.
02:16:13.000 They again.
02:16:14.000 They couldn't buy the mountain, they wouldn't sell it to him, but but when they, he bought the gravel, he had the roads paved in these weird um, uh octagons or hexagons instead of uh yeah, like a four plan.
02:16:26.000 You can see like that, see the four from the center, like if you get a and how weird.
02:16:32.000 And there's, if you get a straight top down view, you can see.
02:16:35.000 I'm looking, I haven't found one yet.
02:16:37.000 Oh, i'm sorry um, but yeah, you can see there we go getting better.
02:16:42.000 I think that's harder to see, yeah.
02:16:47.000 But yeah, just map of Longview, Washington.
02:16:50.000 That picture there, the disruption of Mount Coffin, see how that's the one there that's got all these people on and stuff, and they look like the basalt might have been partially modified.
02:16:59.000 They're not 100%, right?
02:17:01.000 But there were a lot of rumors about treasures being pulled out of that while they were tearing it down.
02:17:05.000 But by the time that this was all being done, there were already laws against destroying Native American mounds and sites and stuff.
02:17:14.000 So, this guy, Long, was a lumber baron.
02:17:19.000 He comes out there and wants to build up a lumber mill and stuff and all this crap.
02:17:24.000 So, he builds the town of Longview.
02:17:25.000 It's a totally planned city.
02:17:27.000 And then he built all this goofy pyramid.
02:17:30.000 There's a statue of him in the middle of town with a girl handing him.
02:17:35.000 And she's holding a dozen roses and handing him the 13th, which apparently is some sort of weird Freemason shit.
02:17:40.000 I don't know all their symbolism, but all kinds of goofy Freemason symbolism, right?
02:17:46.000 And yeah, you see, like, the town's laid out as a pyramid, and you see it to the right, the center, how it goes out to that little circle on the side.
02:17:54.000 Like, it's this was, they've cut off the one line since then.
02:17:59.000 No longer do they honor Long's original plan.
02:18:03.000 They've actually, he had a statue of him that used to face the rising sun.
02:18:06.000 They've relocated it.
02:18:07.000 That town was fucking weird, man.
02:18:09.000 And they went almost like they're trying to fight his mojo or something.
02:18:13.000 But that's what he did when he stole the Indians' mojo.
02:18:15.000 This was their burial mound.
02:18:16.000 This is where they found their sacred.
02:18:19.000 Fuck all that.
02:18:20.000 Paid my streets with it.
02:18:21.000 Make that my mojo.
02:18:23.000 And then somebody else is in there now going, Yeah, fuck your mojo.
02:18:26.000 It's weird.
02:18:27.000 And I don't need to believe in all the spiritual stuff.
02:18:30.000 But H.P. Lovecraft has a great quote about that.
02:18:33.000 He says, I don't need to believe in Santa Claus to know that people exchange gifts on December 25th.
02:18:39.000 I can still follow your craziness even if I'm not crazy.
02:18:42.000 And so, in this case, they seem to be up to fucking some crazy shit over there.
02:18:47.000 But it just happens to be where the biggest concentration of elongated skulls in history were.
02:18:53.000 Wow.
02:18:53.000 And history doesn't record.
02:18:55.000 When I say this shit, all the archaeologists, oh, there's no proof of it.
02:18:59.000 Simple math.
02:19:00.000 To be buried here, you had to be a noble.
02:19:02.000 To be a noble, your skull had to be modified.
02:19:05.000 3,000 burials were reported.
02:19:07.000 3,000 elongated skulls.
02:19:09.000 Not complicated here, not tricky.
02:19:11.000 But they'll argue with this to the end.
02:19:12.000 Oh, Dan doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
02:19:14.000 Okay.
02:19:15.000 What is your take on the Grand Canyon?
02:19:19.000 The Grand Canyon stuff is really weird.
02:19:22.000 Talking about Kincaid's Cave and shit?
02:19:23.000 Yes, dude.
02:19:24.000 That's, again, one of those things where it's like, you know, two years ago I'd have been like, yeah, it probably is Native American stuff.
02:19:30.000 At this point now, I joked the last one of these quest for ancient civilizations things that we had.
02:19:35.000 I joked on stage when they asked, they were talking about different things that I said that the next time that we have some 9 11 type of shit and all the alphabet boys run back east, I'm Fucking brought off to the Grand Canyon.
02:19:48.000 It's time, boys.
02:19:49.000 Well, right now you can't go into the area.
02:19:51.000 Yeah, because all the alphabets are.
02:19:52.000 It's restricted.
02:19:53.000 Yeah.
02:19:53.000 There's a part of the Grand Canyon that's restricted because it's air quotes too dangerous.
02:19:59.000 Or it's a Native American sacred site, depending on who you ask.
02:20:02.000 Yeah, but I haven't heard that part.
02:20:03.000 Well, yeah, that's the explanation that I usually see.
02:20:06.000 Oh, that it's a Native American sacred site.
02:20:08.000 Did they claim it's sacred?
02:20:09.000 I don't know.
02:20:10.000 Because you would imagine the whole thing is sacred.
02:20:13.000 You would think.
02:20:13.000 Wouldn't you think that they were like, that's not stopped us before?
02:20:16.000 I was going to say, all of a sudden we give a fuck?
02:20:18.000 What about Route Rushmore?
02:20:20.000 But the fact that it happens to coincidentally be the place where this guy said he found a cave with Egyptian art in it.
02:20:27.000 Exactly.
02:20:28.000 That's where.
02:20:29.000 What year was that story?
02:20:31.000 I want to say 1920.
02:20:32.000 1909.
02:20:33.000 1909.
02:20:34.000 I'm off.
02:20:35.000 Sorry.
02:20:35.000 Let's see.
02:20:36.000 What is his report?
02:20:38.000 It says it's a hoax.
02:20:39.000 Yeah, of course it says it's a hoax.
02:20:41.000 No, sorry.
02:20:41.000 There were, though.
02:20:43.000 There were hoaxes back then.
02:20:44.000 Oh, yeah.
02:20:45.000 There were a bunch of hoaxes.
02:20:46.000 A bunch of people.
02:20:46.000 There were a contest to try to get your fucking hoax reported the most.
02:20:51.000 Oh, yeah.
02:20:51.000 I'm sure there's hoaxes.
02:20:53.000 The Grand Canyon hoax, the thing that's weird to me is that you can't go there.
02:20:57.000 Oh, yeah.
02:20:57.000 A 1909 newspaper story claiming a vast ancient underground city, complete with mummies, copper tools, hieroglyphs, and oriental, in quotes, or Egyptian style artifacts, had been discovered inside the canyon, overwhelmingly regarded as a period tall tale, not an archaeological discovery.
02:21:15.000 In March 12, 2009, G.E. Kincaid.
02:21:20.000 1909.
02:21:21.000 Excuse me, 1909.
02:21:22.000 G.E. Kincaid, supposedly a lone explorer who had traveled the Colorado River from Green River, Wyoming, to Yuma.
02:21:30.000 April 5th, 1909, paper dramatically expanded the claim.
02:21:33.000 It said Kincaid had found a nearly inaccessible cave citadel in the canyon, that Professor S.A. Jordan and the Smithsonian were investigating it.
02:21:43.000 The article described hundreds of rooms, mummies in a crypt, copper and gold vessels, strange writing, a Buddha like idol, granaries, and space for up to 50,000 inhabitants.
02:21:54.000 Wait, what?
02:21:55.000 Yeah.
02:21:56.000 Said the inhabitants may have originated in Egypt or somewhere in the Orient.
02:22:01.000 But no, I do know that Jason guy, and he's kind of a two faced piece of crap, so I wouldn't trust everything that he says here.
02:22:08.000 If he saw something that flew in the face of his narrative, he will not report it.
02:22:12.000 Who is this guy?
02:22:13.000 That Jason Colevito guy.
02:22:14.000 He's a professional debunker that's basically, yeah, he's one.
02:22:21.000 If you ask Graham Hancock to list off the top 10 pieces of shit they argue with him, that guy's name's going to come up.
02:22:27.000 There's no known physical evidence, no cave complex matching the description, excavated material, field notes, photographs, maps.
02:22:35.000 Accession records or peer reviewed archaeological report.
02:22:40.000 The alleged Smithsonian personnel and expedition do not correspond to a documented Smithsonian project in the way the article claimed.
02:22:48.000 But is there a documented Smithsonian project in the Grand Canyon?
02:22:54.000 Well, to me, this is like really simple.
02:22:56.000 This is the same as it's simple to figure out whether or not these skulls have more like capacity or not.
02:23:03.000 Just fucking let somebody go there.
02:23:05.000 If it's too dangerous or if it's a native.
02:23:07.000 Get a Native American archaeology team, get some drones, fucking investigate and close the door on it.
02:23:13.000 But let me ask you this if they really did find an immense cavern that could have 50,000 people living in it and they found Egyptian hieroglyphs and mummies and sarcophagus or whatever they have, whatever they found, do you think they would hide that?
02:23:30.000 That's a tough one.
02:23:31.000 Honestly, something that.
02:23:32.000 Don't you think that the people that discovered that would become famous?
02:23:36.000 Oh, yeah.
02:23:37.000 And it would be a huge thing and archaeologists would want.
02:23:41.000 To get credit for it?
02:23:43.000 Yes and no.
02:23:45.000 Like, let's put it this way say, for instance, you found something that proved those tridactyl mummies were real.
02:23:54.000 Okay.
02:23:55.000 You know you're going to get pushback.
02:23:57.000 Right.
02:23:57.000 Now, say, for instance, you're a mainstream archaeologist.
02:24:00.000 Your whole job is reliant on going through the proper channels.
02:24:07.000 Now, I've seen what Flint did to me when I called him out as a liar.
02:24:09.000 You know how many people call me?
02:24:11.000 They put me in the same fucking camp as Madame Levonsky now.
02:24:13.000 I'm dead serious.
02:24:14.000 They'll call me total pseudoscientist.
02:24:16.000 They say that I believe in all kinds of crazy shit.
02:24:19.000 Who's that person you just said?
02:24:20.000 Madame Blavatsky.
02:24:21.000 Who's that?
02:24:22.000 She's one of the old, like the turn of the century during the, like 100 years ago when everybody was, the, what do they call it?
02:24:30.000 They're in the mesmerism era and stuff when all the people were seances and she was one of those.
02:24:35.000 Bullshit artist.
02:24:36.000 Bang.
02:24:37.000 And so she, they put me in the same category, right?
02:24:41.000 Like the guy that I talked to about the metallurgy and the ice age.
02:24:46.000 Is an ice core specialist.
02:24:47.000 Flint crawled up his ass and got this dude to retract what he said and stuff.
02:24:52.000 If you're a mainstream archaeologist and you fly afoul of these other guys, you're liable to lose your job.
02:24:57.000 Like I was saying earlier, it says it right in the Wikipedia thing.
02:25:00.000 If you posited an earlier dating of the peopling of the Americas than this, these guys were going to destroy your career.
02:25:06.000 I understand that.
02:25:07.000 But to get the military involved and to block off the Grand Canyon because there's an area that's too dangerous or it's an area that's sacred to Native Americans, to me, is a bit of a reach that you get the Pentagon involved and they send fucking Blackhawk helicopters to circle the area and make sure that hikers aren't climbing the area.
02:25:27.000 Something's up there.
02:25:28.000 Something's up there.
02:25:29.000 I mean, it might be nothing more than they got a military base sitting in there.
02:25:34.000 I mean, dude, in Sedona, holy shit, I'd never seen a UFO.
02:25:37.000 When I was in Sedona, there's what they call Secret Mountain, and these dudes handed me these night vision goggles, and it was like you're seeing all these little things in the air, and then it was like five lights come out from this cloud, they move in unition, and then they all disappeared together.
02:25:52.000 And I was like, all this happens over Secret Mountain all the time?
02:25:55.000 I'm like, yeah.
02:25:56.000 Sedona's a weird place, man.
02:25:59.000 And the people there are weird as fuck.
02:26:01.000 I have never seen so many hustlers that weren't hooked on meth in my fucking life.
02:26:06.000 Everybody there's got a way to make 20 bucks here, 20 bucks there.
02:26:09.000 But that's because it's more expensive to rent a home in Sedona than it is to rent business property on the main drag.
02:26:17.000 They can't get minimum wage people to work there.
02:26:20.000 It's 20 miles to the nearest town or 15 miles to the nearest town.
02:26:23.000 So they have a real hard time.
02:26:25.000 Sedona is just kind of collapsing under its own weight.
02:26:28.000 Well, it's all new agey people, right?
02:26:31.000 All new agey people, and they're all trying to make a buck any way they can.
02:26:34.000 So, why are the new agey people attracted to Sedona?
02:26:38.000 Because of the, what do you call it?
02:26:41.000 The reputation.
02:26:42.000 Yeah, the reputation.
02:26:44.000 You know, it's funny, the guy, my buddy Robert, he's organizing this whole thing that's going to be at the ACL.
02:26:53.000 He's lived in Sedona for years, and he tells me a lot of these vortices.
02:26:56.000 Like, there were three of them that were energy vortexes that were known about.
02:27:00.000 And then this woman comes through in the 80s or the 90s, and she said she found a whole bunch more.
02:27:06.000 And he says, it's really funny.
02:27:07.000 She's grossly overweight, and that's why every one of the vortices she found is about five feet from the highway.
02:27:16.000 The three real ones, they're out in the sticks, man, or in the desert.
02:27:19.000 But the one, Madame Wolboski, she says, it's right there.
02:27:23.000 How convenient.
02:27:24.000 Right next to my bag of juju beans.
02:27:26.000 That's funny.
02:27:27.000 Has anybody tried to find.
02:27:29.000 I know there's this one guy who went to the Grand Canyon, he got chased out, but he found something really weird there.
02:27:35.000 Yeah, I just found a comment on a video that said this guy was actually hit by a drunk driver.
02:27:39.000 And he has some of the best videos.
02:27:41.000 Oh, his drunk driver and killed?
02:27:43.000 Yes, he's dead now.
02:27:44.000 Yeah, I used to watch this guy a lot.
02:27:46.000 This video has 4 million views in two years.
02:27:48.000 So, a lot of people will use Google Earth and be like, hey, check this out.
02:27:52.000 But motherfucker used Google Earth and then he'd go there.
02:27:54.000 And what did he find that's so baffling?
02:27:56.000 That's, I don't know.
02:27:56.000 I have to watch the video.
02:27:57.000 You imagine if they whacked this guy because he found something?
02:27:57.000 I'm trying to.
02:28:02.000 That's happened before.
02:28:05.000 What did he find?
02:28:07.000 So, is he in the area where he's not supposed to be?
02:28:10.000 I don't know.
02:28:11.000 I'm trying to stumble.
02:28:12.000 I'm going through all sorts of places real quick.
02:28:13.000 I also would go if it wouldn't be two years later that we just found this amazing discovery.
02:28:19.000 People would have shared this every day on Twitter, you know?
02:28:22.000 But what is it?
02:28:22.000 Yeah, right.
02:28:23.000 What's the amazing discovery?
02:28:24.000 There could be nothing.
02:28:24.000 I don't know.
02:28:26.000 What is this?
02:28:27.000 I don't know where he's at.
02:28:27.000 I don't know.
02:28:28.000 He found this?
02:28:29.000 That's a cliff dwelling, obviously.
02:28:31.000 That's in the Grand Canyon?
02:28:32.000 Yeah, I've seen this in other pictures, though, so it's not a discovery.
02:28:36.000 So we know there were dwellings in the Grand Canyon.
02:28:36.000 Right.
02:28:39.000 The real question is.
02:28:41.000 That grand claim of something that has 50,000 people in it.
02:28:45.000 A thousand in Grand Canyon, hidden cave.
02:28:47.000 A thousand hidden caves, although around 335 are officially recorded.
02:28:52.000 And most are strictly off limits to the public.
02:28:54.000 See, that's why.
02:28:55.000 Now, why are those off limits to the public, but other cliff dwelling places allow people to.
02:29:02.000 What's that?
02:29:03.000 All sorts of reasons.
02:29:04.000 Where they are.
02:29:05.000 Like I said, it could be part of it's on native land, something that's probably very dangerous to get to.
02:29:10.000 Someone can come save you.
02:29:12.000 Yeah.
02:29:13.000 But it does get kind of weird when you look at.
02:29:16.000 So some of them are legal.
02:29:17.000 It says legal visits Grand Canyon Caverns, located off Route 66 near Peach Springs, Arizona, the biggest, largest dry caverns in the U.S. and offer public tours.
02:29:26.000 Click on that.
02:29:27.000 Open to the public doesn't mean you can't go there.
02:29:30.000 You just have to ask for permission, probably, in some cases, and just get a tour guide or something.
02:29:34.000 Yeah, but I think the area we're talking about is closed.
02:29:36.000 I haven't seen, I'm looking for a list of the places that are in the mountains or something.
02:29:41.000 It's at the mouth of the Colorado River, is where Kincaid supposedly found his thing.
02:29:46.000 So, right at the mouth of the Colorado River is where the Grand Canyon is, from what I understand, is where you just can't go.
02:29:53.000 Like on the side of the hill there, on the side of the cliff.
02:29:56.000 But I haven't tried going that.
02:29:58.000 I'm waiting again.
02:29:59.000 I'm waiting for the next time till there's a national disaster and everybody runs back east.
02:30:02.000 Because, man, I, you know, I'm living on the West Coast.
02:30:04.000 I don't live far from Hanford, I live a little ways, but it's real clear.
02:30:08.000 Like, when World War II happened, they're like, oh, we're going to build this fucking crazy bomb that might blow the world up.
02:30:13.000 Let's put it all the way on the other side of the country from where we live, over where all those cowboys and Hicks live.
02:30:21.000 And if we, you know, if Washington glows in the dark, well, then 50 years later, we got a bunch of blue haired motherfuckers running out of Seattle.
02:30:27.000 So, figure that one out as you will.
02:30:29.000 But they definitely, you know, they put all the poison over with us.
02:30:33.000 That's how they plan to do it.
02:30:34.000 It's the same with in the desert, right?
02:30:37.000 They dump all that shit out in the desert.
02:30:38.000 Why do they test all the nukes in the desert instead of over somewhere near the east?
02:30:42.000 Because they don't want that shit blowing in their backyard.
02:30:45.000 All those nice Rhode Island houses you're talking about, they don't need radiated.
02:30:48.000 Radiate Seattle.
02:30:50.000 Right.
02:30:51.000 Damn.
02:30:52.000 Yeah.
02:30:53.000 Yeah.
02:30:54.000 Hanford's crazy.
02:30:55.000 If you ever drive through there at the Washington, there's all these nuclear storage facilities.
02:30:58.000 I wonder if someone has a reason why you can't go to that area.
02:31:03.000 That they could tell us about.
02:31:04.000 That's there.
02:31:05.000 Unfortunately, from what I've seen, I mean, I'm not as.
02:31:09.000 Jamie's pretty damn quick, so I'll get.
02:31:11.000 You know, he might find something that I haven't seen quickly, but from what I've seen, it's very much like he says, she says, this guy said there was stuff there.
02:31:21.000 They say there's nothing there.
02:31:22.000 They won't let you go there.
02:31:23.000 There was one guy that claims to have tried to go there, and like, he supposedly had a video where like people stopped him before he got there, but I watched it.
02:31:30.000 It looked kind of like maybe.
02:31:32.000 Yeah.
02:31:32.000 They say that about Secret Mountain in Sedona.
02:31:35.000 They say that if you go walking around on Secret Mountain up in Sedona, eventually a park ranger will come up to you.
02:31:41.000 He's a lot buffer and better armed than most park rangers you're going to meet.
02:31:44.000 And you're like, oh, well, Joe Rogan security?
02:31:48.000 Do you think there's maybe some sort of an alien base somewhere in the United States?
02:31:48.000 No.
02:31:54.000 If there are aliens and they're actively working with governments at all, then ours, the Russians and the Chinese, would be the only ones they'd give a fuck about.
02:32:03.000 Let's be honest.
02:32:04.000 There's not the rest of the countries or the rest of the world all kind of just follows us.
02:32:08.000 The oils, if you're an alien race, the oils, oh, look at those cute guys in their coal.
02:32:13.000 But beyond that, yeah, I think if I don't, again, I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to alien stuff, but if aliens are visiting Earth, then yeah, I would assume if they're working with humans at all, then yeah, they're probably working with governments.
02:32:26.000 And when I say skeptical about the alien state, it's really one of two things.
02:32:30.000 Either we're so far away and technology's so, like, look at where we're at now.
02:32:34.000 We're maybe 100 years from actually some sort of interstellar travel, and we're also maybe 20 years from completely wiping ourselves out.
02:32:40.000 I was thinking the 20 year old kid with a million dollars can buy CRISPR and sit there and make jeans in his fucking face.
02:32:45.000 Fuck, we ain't looking long left on this rock, bro.
02:32:48.000 We got fucking AI.
02:32:49.000 Do you hear what they did with that fruit fly?
02:32:51.000 They took the fruit fly brain, put it in a computer, a physics engine, and it's all running around and flying like it's real.
02:32:56.000 They max headroomed this fruit fly.
02:32:58.000 They chopped its brain into little pieces.
02:33:00.000 Well, now they got it playing Beat Saber and fucking Doom and all this other shit.
02:33:06.000 And you ever read the book, I Have No Mouth, But I Must Scream?
02:33:09.000 At the very end, it's like these aliens genetically manipulating people.
02:33:12.000 And at the end, there's this person that it's just like a blob.
02:33:15.000 And that's what it says I have no mouth, but I feel the urge to scream.
02:33:18.000 Imagine being a fruit fly with my balls itch.
02:33:20.000 I press the balls itch button, it's Beat Saber.
02:33:22.000 It's like, fuck!
02:33:24.000 That fruit fly is going to suffer more than any other animal in the history of humanity from kids pulling the wings off a fly.
02:33:30.000 Oh, just set that brain to experience 10,000 years of me ripping its wings off.
02:33:34.000 And here we are.
02:33:35.000 We're doing it right now.
02:33:36.000 We're doing that shit right now that they're ripping the wings with Beat Saber and shit.
02:33:39.000 That thing's suffering.
02:33:41.000 So, anyway, my point is as a species, as we look at going out into the stars, we're also guttural as fuck.
02:33:47.000 So, a species has to get through a lot of hurdles to jump.
02:33:52.000 But if they can't, Jump those hurdles, there ain't no way we're not going to be impressive.
02:33:52.000 Right.
02:33:56.000 We're not going to be attractive because the universe is dead, man.
02:34:00.000 So it's dead, life.
02:34:03.000 Dead, life.
02:34:04.000 They're going to look at us.
02:34:05.000 So I have basically two sides of the coin on that.
02:34:09.000 On the one, I'm pretty skeptical of them getting it going, but if they did get it going, well, yeah, they'd come around.
02:34:15.000 Yeah, I don't know that they would be like us.
02:34:19.000 Our idea is that we're so violent and we develop these weapons.
02:34:23.000 We're so close to destroying ourselves.
02:34:25.000 What if that's a factor of accelerated evolution?
02:34:28.000 What if that's a factor of you take intellect and this lust for technology and to transform its environment and you implant that in a territorial primate?
02:34:42.000 Yeah.
02:34:43.000 I mean, yeah.
02:34:44.000 Like you're dealing with like a weird hybrid of an evolved species, like an evolved species that still maintains this tribal, primitive behavior, but also has this incredible lust for innovation.
02:34:57.000 Mm hmm.
02:34:58.000 No, I could have seen that.
02:34:59.000 So we're like too complicated because we're not good.
02:35:02.000 Yeah, we didn't.
02:35:03.000 We're shit designed.
02:35:03.000 Yeah, we grew out of our too big one direction I follow.
02:35:07.000 And yeah, that's a good possibility.
02:35:09.000 I mean, it's ultimately, my brain on these things ends up thinking about the probability of all these different things happening.
02:35:18.000 It seems to me if we were genetically manipulated by aliens, you know, even not if we weren't genetically manipulated by aliens, you know, One of the things you have to do to get off of the rock is going to have to be a curious species, right?
02:35:31.000 That's something otherwise they don't give a fuck.
02:35:35.000 They're going to have to be social because they're going to have to work together.
02:35:37.000 They're going to have to be godlike in and of themselves.
02:35:39.000 So there's a few things that we can assume about them.
02:35:42.000 But yeah, we only have one example of intelligence evolving.
02:35:47.000 And if it didn't evolve, if it was created like you're saying, then we don't really know.
02:35:52.000 We have multiple examples.
02:35:54.000 We have dolphins and orcas.
02:35:55.000 Yeah.
02:35:55.000 We have a hard time.
02:35:57.000 Whales.
02:35:57.000 Trevor Burrus, we have a hard time, like you were saying earlier, we have a hard time understanding them.
02:36:04.000 They might be extremely intelligent in a lot of ways, but there's a lot of things they might not be the least bit intelligent.
02:36:10.000 A raccoon might be way better, probably is way better at manipulating its environment than a dolphin.
02:36:15.000 Trevor Burrus, of course.
02:36:16.000 Trevor Burrus, because it's not necessary in their world.
02:36:19.000 They move through 3D space.
02:36:20.000 Trevor Burrus, exactly.
02:36:21.000 But then their brain might not even have developed certain things that we Right.
02:36:27.000 Then the question is, did it develop something else?
02:36:29.000 Is their form of communication superior?
02:36:31.000 See, that's where really, like, the words, like, what's the end goal?
02:36:38.000 Is the end goal to have a good life?
02:36:41.000 Or is the end goal to get off the rock?
02:36:43.000 Life, or is the end goal to get off the rock?
02:36:46.000 I mean, if the end goal is to have a good life, Ari Matheson's got it nailed when he talks about the people on the love on the spectrum.
02:36:54.000 They're way happier than all the rest of us are.
02:36:57.000 Ari Maddie, excuse me.
02:36:58.000 But the love on the spectrum, or excuse me, is it about happiness or is it about survival?
02:37:08.000 Is it about getting off the rock?
02:37:09.000 What's the end goal?
02:37:10.000 It's like Well, is the end goal collective for the human species to evolve and advance and move past the state that we're at now?
02:37:17.000 Or is your own individual existence and your happiness currently?
02:37:21.000 Like, what's important?
02:37:23.000 And we don't really move collectively as individuals.
02:37:26.000 We think we do things collectively, but we think about ourselves.
02:37:29.000 Yeah.
02:37:30.000 You know, when people are like planning for their retirement, they're not like trying to help out the human race, they're like trying to provide for themselves.
02:37:37.000 That's correct.
02:37:38.000 But on the other side, like when I'm working on doing research and you do a lot of research, you probably understand this yourself.
02:37:47.000 Or when GSP invents the Superman punch, it's like you.
02:37:51.000 When you bring something new to the world, you kind of feel cool.
02:37:53.000 You know, you kind of feel like I've just contributed to the grand total of human thinking.
02:37:59.000 And I didn't just add like a dot or something.
02:38:01.000 I actually contributed.
02:38:03.000 So you could see almost like a subconscious desire to do that.
02:38:08.000 So yeah, it is weird.
02:38:10.000 It's like, you know, we do, you watch birds fly together and fish move into school, and then you watch mobs.
02:38:15.000 It's like, dude, there is some sort of unimind that's tying us together.
02:38:18.000 And I'm not trying to get all metaphysical.
02:38:20.000 It might not be nothing more than, Than pheromones and chemicals, but something's got us where people act.
02:38:27.000 You can feel it at times.
02:38:29.000 You can walk into a room and feel the fucking energy and just know, oh, I shouldn't be in this room.
02:38:35.000 These people don't like me.
02:38:36.000 It's not necessarily like a metaphysical thing, although that's the branch, the stamp that everybody puts on.
02:38:43.000 It's one of the unfortunate things is that if something becomes like water dowsing, if something starts as a metaphysical thing, science is going to knee jerk to the end of time to resist it.
02:38:52.000 But ask anybody who drills wells about dowsing.
02:38:55.000 If they drill wells for a fucking living, they douse.
02:38:57.000 Period.
02:38:58.000 Just like a cop knows that full moon fever is a thing.
02:39:01.000 The scientists, well, full moon fever, statistically.
02:39:03.000 The cop's like, yeah.
02:39:05.000 What do you think is going on with dowsing?
02:39:06.000 Honestly, I think it's.
02:39:09.000 Remember when we used to have tube TVs everywhere and you'd walk down the street and you'd know your friend was watching TV because you could feel the fucking hair on the back of your neck stand up or whatever?
02:39:17.000 No.
02:39:17.000 You never felt the electromagnetic feeling of a tube TV?
02:39:21.000 No.
02:39:22.000 I didn't walk by my friend's house and know he was watching TV.
02:39:25.000 No.
02:39:26.000 You ever been able to walk into a room and know that that tube TV was on?
02:39:26.000 Did you ever.
02:39:30.000 You don't remember like the.
02:39:31.000 I don't remember that.
02:39:31.000 God, I don't.
02:39:33.000 Well, I know that a lot of the viewers remember it.
02:39:35.000 It's a thing.
02:39:36.000 I'm sure if Jamie looks it up, you could feel the energy of the TV.
02:39:38.000 You can feel the old tube TVs, you could feel them.
02:39:41.000 And they don't have an exact reason, but it's electromagnetics, and maybe there's iron in your blood.
02:39:49.000 And so this dowsing, it's like with rods, those twisty rods, and they move together when you're getting close to.
02:39:57.000 Walking over a water source.
02:39:58.000 Yeah, they just do this.
02:39:59.000 Do you think it really works?
02:40:00.000 According to the guys that make money off of it, it does.
02:40:03.000 And I wouldn't.
02:40:04.000 I mean, has anybody tried to do a study on why that would work?
02:40:07.000 They that that's where um the only things I've seen were pretty skeptical and pretty kind of just like it doesn't work, but um, again, that's kind of where the rubber meets the road.
02:40:18.000 It's like it seems like that would be easy to prove.
02:40:20.000 You'd think so, like you get a dowser, yeah.
02:40:23.000 Well, that's the thing is that they science wants everybody to be able to do it, you know what I mean?
02:40:29.000 They want to be able to we're going to get 50 people together and have them all go out in the field and douse.
02:40:32.000 You would take a Someone's good at it.
02:40:36.000 So, CRT sets used a high voltage flyback transformer and magnetic deflection system to sweep an electron beam across the screen.
02:40:44.000 Those parts commonly vibrated around the horizontal scan frequency, roughly 15 to 16 kilohertz, in many TV standards, creating a very high, thin tone.
02:40:54.000 Children and young adults tend to hear high frequencies better, so they were especially likely to walk into a house or pass a closed door and immediately know the TV was running.
02:41:04.000 Whoa.
02:41:05.000 Mistatic charge and belief that as well.
02:41:08.000 That's interesting that children and younger adults can pick it up.
02:41:11.000 They also see ghosts.
02:41:14.000 Yeah.
02:41:14.000 This might be a difference.
02:41:15.000 You're just a few years older than me, and so you might not remember it as well.
02:41:19.000 Maybe.
02:41:20.000 Maybe people just get duller over time and they can't feel it anymore.
02:41:24.000 Yeah.
02:41:25.000 Well, these don't use those transformers and all that high.
02:41:28.000 Right.
02:41:28.000 Of course.
02:41:29.000 Yeah.
02:41:30.000 These are a joke by comparison.
02:41:31.000 But my point is there's things like this that we can pick up on.
02:41:35.000 There's things that we pick up on that we.
02:41:39.000 We can be tested.
02:41:40.000 And honestly, I love psychology, although psychology, just like archaeology, is not a science.
02:41:46.000 I don't care when anything that's self reported is not a fucking science.
02:41:49.000 You think Epstein told his shrink what he was up to?
02:41:52.000 Okay, there you go.
02:41:52.000 Fuck no.
02:41:55.000 But psychology does have some scientific bits.
02:41:58.000 And one of the things, though, is ultimately it's the lens that all of it comes through.
02:42:01.000 Everything that we do comes down through that psychological lens.
02:42:03.000 Like me talking earlier about it taking 100 years for them to reconcile gradualism and catastrophism, it's all through here.
02:42:11.000 And it's all through the zeitgeist of the time.
02:42:13.000 Like right now, racism is the big thing and all this social programs.
02:42:16.000 So that becomes part of science for whatever fucking reason.
02:42:20.000 I mean, I'll still never forget the time I saw the article about feminist math and I just wanted to fucking.
02:42:26.000 What was it?
02:42:26.000 Feminist math.
02:42:27.000 You know, it's.
02:42:29.000 With that.
02:42:29.000 I don't know.
02:42:30.000 Maybe six oppresses seven.
02:42:31.000 I don't fucking know.
02:42:32.000 I don't really know.
02:42:35.000 I guess seven's more pointy and six has the whole slug.
02:42:37.000 Probably the other way.
02:42:37.000 At any rate, it's.
02:42:40.000 I just laughed.
02:42:41.000 It's.
02:42:42.000 There's.
02:42:43.000 We don't have room for that shit in science.
02:42:44.000 The whole point of science, I say this a bunch, the whole point of science is to like, the whole point of the scientific method is to strip individual biases away.
02:42:52.000 This is why replicability is so fucking important because if I do it and you do it and you don't get the same result as me, there's a problem.
02:43:01.000 It's weird when it gets into racial differences and they just ignore it completely and they call the data racist.
02:43:08.000 Oh, yeah, that's exactly what.
02:43:10.000 And then the guys that are like openly racist, they love that.
02:43:14.000 Well, the weird thing about the data being racist is it's not white supremacists at all because Asians are doing way better.
02:43:20.000 Yeah, exactly.
02:43:21.000 But you don't want to talk about that.
02:43:25.000 The problem is the people that aren't doing as well.
02:43:27.000 The problem is that, in my opinion, they're trying to take Marxism and turn it into anything besides a monetary bullshit idea.
02:43:34.000 You try to do it on a social level, social Marxism?
02:43:37.000 Oh, come on, dude.
02:43:39.000 This is how you get the oppression Olympics.
02:43:41.000 I've got it worse than.
02:43:42.000 You know how much money I had to spend to get custody of my kid?
02:43:45.000 And I had no social programs for me.
02:43:47.000 Oh, what was.
02:43:48.000 You go on to that shit forever.
02:43:51.000 It's so stupid.
02:43:52.000 95% of the people that are shot in this country by the cops are men.
02:43:57.000 Do we need a men's lives matter movement or is that a little fucked up?
02:44:01.000 Well, it's also men are the ones who create most of the violence.
02:44:06.000 They're the ones that need to get shot.
02:44:08.000 Well, how about my thinking is like this when a cop shoots a person, he shoots a guy, he feels more threatened than he does by a woman.
02:44:17.000 And when he shoots a black guy, he feels more threatened than he does by a white guy.
02:44:20.000 Now, whether that's racism, Or personal experience or town by town difference, whatever.
02:44:25.000 At the end of the day, just saying this is pure racism is like, okay, well, then this is pure sexism, right?
02:44:30.000 Pure sexism, right?
02:44:32.000 Oh, no, it's not pure sexism when they're shooting guys, but it's when they're black.
02:44:35.000 I mean, in all honesty, Donald Trump has a higher chance of being shot by the cops wrongly than Kamala Harris.
02:44:42.000 That's statistically like way more likely, like 20 times more likely.
02:44:46.000 In terms of men getting shot more than women, period.
02:44:48.000 White guys are 20 times more likely to get shot by the cops wrongly than a black woman.
02:44:52.000 Right, and this is not that's not denying racism or denying sexism.
02:44:55.000 Talking about sexism.
02:44:56.000 What I'm trying to do is take that I only bring these up because so many people bring up these statistics to say.
02:45:02.000 This is a problem, and this is a problem, and this is a problem, and that's when you bring up this one that's just overwhelmingly, it's like all of a sudden we look at things differently now.
02:45:10.000 It's the social Marxism thing.
02:45:11.000 It's like, and then it's also there's like a currency in being oppressed.
02:45:14.000 There's a currency in recognizing oppression.
02:45:16.000 There's a currency in signaling virtue that you recognize oppression that other people don't.
02:45:22.000 You know, admitting your whatever biases on the floor.
02:45:27.000 I'm so sorry.
02:45:31.000 Whatever privilege you may have, land acknowledgements, all that crazy stuff.
02:45:38.000 It's like, you know.
02:45:39.000 We're trying to be good people, but we're doing it in a way that points at everybody else like they're bad.
02:45:46.000 Exactly.
02:45:46.000 And that's where it gets real squirrely because people are using the premise of being a good person to be really shitty to people that don't deserve it.
02:45:54.000 Well, yeah.
02:45:55.000 And they don't do anything on their own.
02:46:00.000 Like they're going to tell me that I should be doing X, Y, or Z.
02:46:04.000 But like Kansas University recently.
02:46:05.000 Like, put out this big thing about how they feel so bad for living on indigenous land.
02:46:10.000 You're going to give it back?
02:46:12.000 Thank you.
02:46:13.000 No, they ain't giving it back.
02:46:14.000 You know what?
02:46:15.000 They ain't even repatriated all the bones that they've got that they're supposed to have repatriated in 1990.
02:46:20.000 I've only been to one place where I saw an actual land disclosure, and it was at the South by Southwest premiere of The Age of Disclosure.
02:46:27.000 I thought this was so hilarious.
02:46:29.000 There is a documentary about us being invaded by aliens, and before they play the documentary, they have to acknowledge that someone invaded this land.
02:46:39.000 And took it from the natives.
02:46:42.000 And this is the ancestral tribal land of the Tong, whatever tribes they said.
02:46:48.000 We must acknowledge this first.
02:46:50.000 Like, wouldn't you play the movie?
02:46:52.000 This isn't a history lesson.
02:46:53.000 This isn't a struggle session.
02:46:56.000 It's literally about us getting invaded by aliens.
02:46:56.000 Play the fucking movie.
02:46:59.000 And this is supposed to make it like better.
02:46:59.000 Yeah.
02:47:02.000 You're a good person because you acknowledge this.
02:47:05.000 Aw.
02:47:05.000 All right.
02:47:05.000 Aw.
02:47:06.000 I got to wrap this up.
02:47:09.000 Your thing is give out the dates, tell everybody.
02:47:12.000 It's October 16th through 18th.
02:47:13.000 At the Quest for Ancient Civilizations conference at the ACL Live.
02:47:17.000 It's right here in Austin.
02:47:19.000 It should be a banger of a time.
02:47:21.000 It's going to be amazing.
02:47:22.000 I'm sure it's going to be awesome.
02:47:24.000 All those people there Randall Carlson, Billy Carson, who else?
02:47:25.000 Yeah, a whole bunch.
02:47:28.000 Kurt Metzger.
02:47:29.000 Kurt Metzger and Duncan Trussell together.
02:47:30.000 That's Duncan Trussell on test and doing deadlifts for 10 years.
02:47:34.000 Great, great cast of people.
02:47:34.000 David Childress.
02:47:37.000 Awesome times.
02:47:39.000 David Childress is a really good dude, man.
02:47:42.000 What do they do to you, man?
02:47:43.000 Well, you know, the AI.
02:47:43.000 They made you look great.
02:47:44.000 You look like Alan Watts.
02:47:46.000 I look like somebody else entirely.
02:47:48.000 I almost Amish.
02:47:49.000 You look very odd.
02:47:50.000 Either way.
02:47:52.000 I'm just like the good old guy.
02:47:52.000 Thanks.
02:47:54.000 You sound just like the chicks at the bar last week.
02:47:55.000 It's a problem with the fucking AI.
02:47:56.000 You don't have to do that or do it and do it right.
02:47:59.000 I say it to everybody.
02:48:00.000 I actually had a production team that wanted to get me to sign up for them to help produce for me and stuff.
02:48:09.000 When I told them that I was not going to have any AI videos, no AI clipping, no AI thumbnails, and certainly no AI communicating with my followers, they're like, we'll have to get back to you on the Price.
02:48:18.000 I'm like, yeah, I just took your tool belt, didn't I?
02:48:22.000 They wanted to be easy.
02:48:23.000 Yeah, I could buy anything I took.
02:48:24.000 Anyway, thank you, Joe.
02:48:25.000 Thank you, Dave.
02:48:26.000 Always good to see you, brother.
02:48:27.000 You too, man.
02:48:27.000 Thanks, everybody.