The Joe Rogan Experience - October 02, 2012


Joe Rogan Experience #271 - London Real

Topics
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Hosted by
Joe Rogan
Guests
London Real
Mentioned
Probably Brian Hoist Gracie Graham Hancock Joey Diaz Dude Duncan Trussell Netanyahu Nick Ari Shafir Eddie Bravo Marcelo Garcia Mike Goldberg Brendan Walsh Jacques Fresco Anthony Cumia Terry Norris Bob Sapp Obama Shrek John A. Macdonald and 130 more
Joe Rogan Experience #270 - Kevin Pereira Joe Rogan Experience #272 - Duncan Trussell, Joey Diaz, Ian Edwards

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2 hours and 54 minutes

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35,847

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3,539

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In this episode, the boys talk about Alpha-Bran, a new substance that has been around for a long time and has been shown to have a positive effect on the brain. It's a controversial subject, but I'm here to tell you, it's not bad. In fact, I think it's one of the best things you can do to improve your brain. And if you don't know what it is, you're not going to want to miss this episode of the boys' favorite podcast, where they talk about it. It's not a Red Bull type of thing, but it's definitely not a bad one either, and I think you'll agree that it's worth it to take a shot before you go to sleep. Plus, we talk about the weirdest thing we've ever heard about it, and why it's a good idea to take it before going to bed. And we talk a little bit about lucid dreams, which is a thing where you can have a dream and wake up the next day and remember it, but you can't remember it because you're high as shit. I don't even remember it. I know it's weird, but that's what happens when you take something like that, right? Enjoy! -The Boys Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. Art by Jeff Kaale. Thank you for listening to this episode and share it with your friends and family! Brian and Mike talk about this episode on social media! and tell us what you think about it's awesome and what they think it means to you and what you like about it and what it's like to listen to it and how it makes you feel about it and how you can help spread it around the word about it on your social media and what kind of thing you're listening to it. Thank you so much! -Brian and Mike discuss it on the podcast. -Bryan & Mike talk it out in the comments section. Thanks for listening and sending us your thoughts on it and sending it to us. Brian & Mike are looking forward to hearing it out! . Brian, Mike, Mike and Chris talk about what they like it and sharing it on their social media Thanks so much for listening, and we hope you enjoy it! Love you guys are having a great day. ~

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00:00:02.000 Yeah, is that it?
00:00:03.000 Is that for real?
00:00:05.000 I always wondered when I was a little kid, why do American Indian songs sound so like, like what is that?
00:00:16.000 Sounds awesome. 1.00
00:00:17.000 Then I realized they're high as fuck. 1.00
00:00:21.000 Because when you're high as fuck, then it seems like it sounds kind of cool. 1.00
00:00:25.000 Jesus, dude. 0.99
00:00:25.000 It's sounding really cool right now, Rogan. 0.99
00:00:27.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:00:31.000 The rattling sound that you hear, ladies and gentlemen, is an actual bottle of Alpha Brain.
00:00:36.000 I do not... 0.99
00:00:37.000 You also hear my fucking laptop in the background because I'm retarded. 1.00
00:00:41.000 This is Alpha Brain. 1.00
00:00:42.000 This is what I take before I do anything.
00:00:44.000 Because I'm an Alpha Brain junkie, ladies and gentlemen. 0.99
00:00:46.000 I take this shit before I do stand-up. 0.99
00:00:48.000 I'm not lying about this, by the way. 1.00
00:00:49.000 I take this before I do any podcast, any UFC. I've done UFCs before without them and I panic!
00:00:56.000 I panic!
00:00:57.000 I gotta go with extra Red Bull. 1.00
00:00:58.000 Me and Mike Goldberg make fucking... 0.99
00:01:00.000 We have races to see who can get to the bathroom first. 1.00
00:01:04.000 Red Bull goes right through your son.
00:01:05.000 You guys should double stack it.
00:01:06.000 This is not a Red Bull type feeling if you're wondering what alpha brain is.
00:01:09.000 It's essentially nutrients that enhance your brain's ability to produce neurotransmitters.
00:01:15.000 It's all...
00:01:16.000 Different nutrients that have been shown to have a positive effect on brain function.
00:01:20.000 It is a very controversial subject.
00:01:23.000 I've looked at both ends of it.
00:01:26.000 I've talked to people who think it's a placebo.
00:01:29.000 I believe that everybody's body works completely differently. 1.00
00:01:33.000 I know that some people can eat peanuts and have a great old time and other people eat them and they're fucking dead. 0.99
00:01:38.000 I don't understand that. 0.98
00:01:39.000 But what I do understand is What benefits me and what has been shown to benefit people and what has a long history of human use.
00:01:51.000 And that's all the ingredients inside of AlphaBrain.
00:01:53.000 To go and check this out, go to Onnit.com.
00:01:56.000 That's O-N-N-I-T. And all of it is explained to you. 0.98
00:01:59.000 And the only reason why I would be in business with anybody, and this includes Ting, which we're in business with sometimes, or Audible, or Alienware, any of the people that we talk about on the show, even that we don't get money from, like H2O, or C2O rather. 0.99
00:02:19.000 Yeah, water doesn't give us any money, those cunts, cheap bitches. 1.00
00:02:24.000 C2O coconut water is fucking delicious. 1.00
00:02:26.000 They're great grillos pickles. 0.99
00:02:28.000 They're fucking the most delicious pickles on earth. 0.99
00:02:31.000 If I tell you it, it's because it's true to me. 0.99
00:02:35.000 I believe it 100%. 0.99
00:02:36.000 I've been wrong about shit before, trust me. 0.99
00:02:39.000 But I'll tell you that too. 0.99
00:02:40.000 If I'm wrong, I'll absolutely fucking tell you I'm wrong. 0.53
00:02:43.000 Alphabet I'm not wrong about. 0.99
00:02:44.000 The fucking dreams that you have, first of all, I would take it just for the dreams. 0.99
00:02:48.000 If you take it and then go to bed, you have the most intense graphic dreams. 1.00
00:02:53.000 They're intense.
00:02:53.000 And they're very lucid, man, and I don't know what it is, but it's not bad for you.
00:02:58.000 That's all you have to worry about.
00:02:59.000 It's all just nutrients.
00:03:00.000 There's nothing crazy in there.
00:03:01.000 There's no pharmaceutical drugs.
00:03:03.000 There's nothing that's addictive.
00:03:04.000 Can I tell you about a story about one of the dreams?
00:03:05.000 Yeah, please.
00:03:06.000 I gave some to my Russian housekeeper, and she took him, and she went back to Latvia in 1965 and spoke to her grandfather in the dream, the lucid dream. 0.96
00:03:13.000 She came back the next day, and she's like, Brian, what the fuck? 0.99
00:03:16.000 Yeah, lucid dreams are no joke. 0.99
00:03:18.000 They don't always happen though.
00:03:20.000 I've taken it before and had nothing.
00:03:22.000 I've had no dreams.
00:03:24.000 I don't understand the process behind it.
00:03:26.000 Unless in your dream it was so intense that you inside your dream found out a way to delete it so you won't remember it.
00:03:32.000 Maybe.
00:03:32.000 Yeah, well that's the mechanism behind dimethyltryptamine.
00:03:36.000 The mechanism behind dimethyltryptamine is the same mechanism behind dreams. 0.99
00:03:41.000 Which is really weird how, you know how you can wake up and you're like, fuck what a dream I had, man.
00:03:46.000 We were on roller skates and we were running from Godzilla and it was my cousin who I grew up with but I haven't seen him since I was 13. He's like, why didn't you call me? 0.86
00:03:53.000 And I felt fucking guilty. 0.89
00:03:55.000 Meanwhile, Godzilla's chasing us and you can remember it. 0.88
00:03:57.000 But then if I came up to you like a half an hour later and I said, tell me about that dream again. 0.98
00:04:01.000 You'd be like, what fucking dream was it again? 1.00
00:04:03.000 Shit, what happened? 1.00
00:04:05.000 Fuck! 1.00
00:04:06.000 It's weird. 1.00
00:04:07.000 It's like your brain erases it.
00:04:09.000 It's like, whatever it is, is based on something that the brain is already really good at getting rid of.
00:04:16.000 It's like the DMT that does that.
00:04:17.000 Yeah, DMT, which is a crazy psychedelic drug that your brain makes.
00:04:20.000 And it's also available in plant form.
00:04:24.000 But the idea is that when you're dreaming intense dreams, that what's going on is your brain is producing...
00:04:31.000 Dimethyltryptamine your brain is producing this hallucinogen and nobody really understands what it's about and some people actually believe that you know there's an old term called sleep on it you know if you have a you have something that's bothering you sleep on it maybe you come up with a good decision in the morning A lot of the reasons for that term is because you really do think about things that are troubling you while you're sleeping.
00:04:52.000 And if you are tripping, if that is what's happening when you're sleeping, if we're all growing through a DMT trip that is erased by the time we wake up, which is a distinct possibility considering the weirdness of dreams and what are they?
00:05:06.000 The ones that seem really real.
00:05:08.000 What are these?
00:05:09.000 These are obviously hallucinations, like really intense hallucinations.
00:05:13.000 But In a much more controlled form than, say, a DMT state.
00:05:17.000 Well, it could just be it's a low-level DMT experience.
00:05:19.000 There's certain Eastern religions which believe that the life we're living now is actually just the dream that your higher self is having, which I find very interesting.
00:05:27.000 It's just as likely as being alive. 0.82
00:05:29.000 Being alive is pretty fucking bizarre. 1.00
00:05:30.000 Being able to measure things through your fucking eyeballs and figure out where things are, all of that is weird as shit, man. 1.00
00:05:37.000 Being a human is weird as shit. 1.00
00:05:39.000 It is fucking crazy. 1.00
00:05:40.000 Dreams are weird. 0.99
00:05:41.000 It's weird that you shut off every night.
00:05:43.000 It's weird that for eight hours we just accept that we're gonna just disappear.
00:05:46.000 Normal and you look forward to it.
00:05:48.000 Everybody's scared to die.
00:05:49.000 No one's scared to take naps. 1.00
00:05:50.000 You just fucking shut right off. 0.99
00:05:52.000 I used to be scared to go to sleep as a kid. 1.00
00:05:53.000 I'd be like, oh shit, here it comes. 0.98
00:05:55.000 I don't know why Alpha Brain gives you dreams to continue with this, but it does. 1.00
00:05:59.000 It gives you crazy fucking dreams. 0.99
00:06:00.000 Shroom Tech Sport is another great product from Onnit. 0.99
00:06:02.000 It's my favorite product as far as athletic performance.
00:06:06.000 It's based on a Cordyceps mushroom.
00:06:08.000 Plenty of data out there if you're interested in Googling it. 0.98
00:06:10.000 The cordyceps mushroom is also the same mushroom that makes fucking ants, that makes them zombies and makes their heads explode. 0.97
00:06:16.000 Different strain of it. 0.98
00:06:18.000 Different strain, folks.
00:06:19.000 You don't have to worry about that.
00:06:22.000 Yeah, there's a branch of the cordyceps mushrooms that infects these ants. 0.99
00:06:27.000 Fascinating shit, man. 0.97
00:06:28.000 And it turns the ants into these zombie ants, and the other ants have to get the body. 1.00
00:06:33.000 When these things die and get them way the fuck away from the ant hill because they explode out spores which infect all these other ants.
00:06:41.000 What are you saying? 0.96
00:06:44.000 Eat your mushrooms.
00:06:45.000 I'm not saying that.
00:06:47.000 It's not the same thing.
00:06:50.000 Imagine if that's how we're doing it.
00:06:52.000 That's what Jan Urban would say.
00:06:53.000 They're doing mind control in the form of mushrooms.
00:06:57.000 Mushroom mind control.
00:06:59.000 It's not that, folks.
00:07:01.000 That's not what we're doing.
00:07:01.000 What if it was, man?
00:07:02.000 What if it is?
00:07:04.000 What if Aubrey was on it the whole time?
00:07:06.000 29-year-old dude had it all figured out. 0.98
00:07:09.000 We're all going to have fucking fleshlights in the future, his hands. 0.99
00:07:12.000 Listen folks, don't listen to that guy. 1.00
00:07:14.000 He's crazy. 0.74
00:07:16.000 But we also have kettlebells, which are recently in, and battle ropes. 0.99
00:07:21.000 Everything we sell is the highest quality shit possible. 0.98
00:07:24.000 You can't get any better. 0.99
00:07:26.000 And we try to sell it to as cheap as possible and make the deal as easy as possible.
00:07:30.000 With all the nutritional supplements, there's a 100% money-back guarantee in the first 30 pills.
00:07:34.000 You don't have to send them back. 0.98
00:07:36.000 You just say, this stuff sucks. 0.94
00:07:37.000 That's because nobody wants to rip you off. 1.00
00:07:39.000 And we're only selling you the best shit. 0.99
00:07:40.000 And I guarantee you, if you start using it, you're going to appreciate the effects of it. 1.00
00:07:44.000 Or you're some fucking weirdo that can't eat peanuts. 1.00
00:07:46.000 I don't know. 1.00
00:07:47.000 I don't know your deal, man.
00:07:49.000 Go to Onnit.com, use the code name ROGAN, and you'll save yourself 10% off the supplements. 0.95
00:07:53.000 And you will save nothing off battle ropes and kettlebells because them shits is expensive.
00:07:58.000 And don't use the codename London Real on this show. 0.98
00:08:00.000 Wait for our show.
00:08:01.000 Yeah, if you use the codename London Real, do you get something?
00:08:03.000 Do you get like 10% off?
00:08:05.000 Sweet! 1.00
00:08:05.000 Look at that bitch! 1.00
00:08:06.000 But then Joe offs us in the parking lot later. 1.00
00:08:08.000 Spreading!
00:08:08.000 Going off through the world!
00:08:10.000 It's a coupon code cock block!
00:08:11.000 It is a coupon code cock block exercise right there.
00:08:17.000 It would be if we were all on some sort of a percentage sales basis.
00:08:22.000 That's why you'd want to use the word Olive Garden at Onnit. 1.00
00:08:24.000 Shut the fuck up! 1.00
00:08:27.000 They charge you more! 1.00
00:08:28.000 They say that, son of a bitch! 1.00
00:08:30.000 Charge him double! 1.00
00:08:32.000 Damn, we were told to Olive Garden before Brian did. 1.00
00:08:35.000 100% they charge you more. 0.99
00:08:38.000 Dude, can I get a coupon code that charges $10 more on your order, but it just donates to Death Squad?
00:08:45.000 That would be hilarious.
00:08:47.000 That is the other thing we're sponsored by.
00:08:49.000 Deathsquad.tv is Brian's site, where Brian makes these ridiculous cat t-shirts that I see at all my shows now.
00:08:56.000 Those are all his designs, and the money goes to Brian to support his Deathsquad podcast network. 0.97
00:09:03.000 And you're like, what the fuck is a Deathsquad?
00:09:05.000 It's a very vague and strange, strange topic. 0.94
00:09:09.000 And we got Kevin Pereira tomorrow.
00:09:10.000 Yes, Kevin Pereira, who's become a part of it.
00:09:13.000 Death Squad is just a nickname that was given to us a long, long time ago and now sort of branched out into Brian's podcast.
00:09:23.000 It's still like, it's a family.
00:09:25.000 That's what really Death Squad represents to all of us.
00:09:28.000 When we talk about if we put Death Squad under a post and it's Joey Diaz and Ari and Brian and Duncan are all on a show together, that's what we call Death Squad.
00:09:37.000 When you hear it's family.
00:09:38.000 Yeah.
00:09:39.000 It's just like the Olive Garden.
00:09:41.000 Jesus Christ!
00:09:42.000 It's like subliminal. 1.00
00:09:43.000 The motherfucker, he entered into my mind with an Olive Garden commercial. 1.00
00:09:47.000 Olive Garden, will you please pay this fuck? 1.00
00:09:49.000 Olive Garden, what do we have to do? 1.00
00:09:52.000 He's got them saying it. 1.00
00:09:53.000 Brody Stevens is recommending the Olive Garden on the fucking Chelsea Handler Show, you sons of bitches. 1.00
00:09:59.000 Get off your ass and sponsor this kid. 1.00
00:10:01.000 He's the number one Olive Garden supporter in the country, essentially. 1.00
00:10:04.000 I don't understand it, but I also don't understand that Just For Men commercial where the fucking baby has a beard and drives a car. 0.99
00:10:10.000 I don't understand that either. 1.00
00:10:12.000 There's a lot of shit I don't understand. 1.00
00:10:13.000 What the fuck is that? 1.00
00:10:14.000 Have you seen that commercial? 1.00
00:10:15.000 We'll talk about that.
00:10:16.000 Listen, folks.
00:10:16.000 We don't have that in London.
00:10:17.000 London Real is here. 1.00
00:10:19.000 Strap the fuck in. 1.00
00:10:20.000 We're fixing to get shit popping. 1.00
00:10:21.000 Desquad.tv for the t-shirts, stickers. 0.98
00:10:24.000 Represent Desquad all over the country.
00:10:26.000 You guys were there in North Carolina, and I saw you in Toronto. 1.00
00:10:30.000 All you fucking freaks. 1.00
00:10:31.000 All right. 1.00
00:10:32.000 Cue the music, son.
00:10:36.000 Joe Rogan Podcast.
00:10:37.000 Check it out.
00:10:38.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:10:40.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
00:10:43.000 Gentlemen, welcome, welcome.
00:10:50.000 Thank you.
00:10:50.000 It's awesome to be here.
00:10:51.000 So good to have you guys here.
00:10:53.000 I saw you guys on YouTube a while back.
00:10:57.000 I don't remember what the...
00:10:58.000 I just say the gentlemen, Brian and Nick.
00:11:00.000 Who's Brian?
00:11:01.000 Who's Nick?
00:11:01.000 I'm Brian Rose.
00:11:02.000 Who's Brian?
00:11:02.000 Who's Nick?
00:11:03.000 Nick.
00:11:03.000 From London Real.
00:11:05.000 These guys are one of the coolest up-and-coming podcasts that I've had a chance to listen to. 0.84
00:11:11.000 And really, it's fucking right up our alley.
00:11:14.000 The stuff you guys talk about, the people that you have on. 0.96
00:11:17.000 You know, you had Jacques Vallée on.
00:11:19.000 You had Graham Hancock on.
00:11:22.000 Fresco, you mean.
00:11:23.000 Did I say?
00:11:23.000 I'm sorry.
00:11:25.000 Which one is Jacques Vallée?
00:11:26.000 I don't know.
00:11:27.000 Fresco's the 96-year-old dude.
00:11:28.000 Fresco's the Venus Project guy.
00:11:30.000 Yeah, Venus Project guy, yeah.
00:11:30.000 Sorry, Mr. Jacques.
00:11:32.000 But you've had, you know, you had Graham Hancock on.
00:11:35.000 You guys have had some just right up our alley guests.
00:11:38.000 It's really, it's beautiful to see that there's more out there, that there's people that are doing this in London, you know, there's people that are doing this in Toronto.
00:11:47.000 I ran into a lot of people in Toronto that have podcasts now.
00:11:51.000 And it's essentially, it's all the same thing. 0.84
00:11:54.000 It's like, you know, you get together and you go, I would like to talk about some shit that I don't see talked about in the mainstream news. 0.78
00:12:01.000 Like, There's all this nonsense in the news about celebrities or about parts of the world that really don't even have anything to do with our day-to-day lives. 0.91
00:12:11.000 But there's all these other weird subjects that aren't getting covered.
00:12:15.000 There's so much fascinating things about it.
00:12:18.000 What's going on with these psychedelics?
00:12:19.000 What are they here for?
00:12:21.000 What's this all about?
00:12:23.000 Can this be a debate for intelligent people to sit down and talk?
00:12:26.000 Or does it immediately get derided and reduced to some silliness?
00:12:30.000 To some, oh yeah, were you going to take hallucinogens?
00:12:33.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:12:33.000 Why don't you just fucking, why don't you get up in the morning and put a tie on like a gentleman? 0.99
00:12:37.000 I spoke to Hancock about that. 0.99
00:12:39.000 As soon as I mentioned ayahuasca or anything, everyone's eyes just glaze over and they're like, oh, you're one of those guys. 0.97
00:12:44.000 Yeah, they think you're a crazy person.
00:12:45.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:12:46.000 If you want to talk about altered states of consciousness, you're a crazy person. 0.98
00:12:49.000 In California, too? 0.96
00:12:51.000 Yeah, well, it's a little better here.
00:12:52.000 It's a little better here.
00:12:53.000 This is the most progressive spot in the country, I think, as far as the ideas of...
00:12:59.000 I have a feeling about humans in America.
00:13:03.000 It's not that there's not amazing people on the East Coast.
00:13:05.000 There's amazing people all throughout the country.
00:13:07.000 But I think there's a prevailing attitude of the region.
00:13:12.000 People always talk about liberals in California.
00:13:14.000 Well, the reason why is because the East Coast is where all the people first landed. 0.99
00:13:19.000 That's where all the people from Europe were like, fuck Europe. 0.99
00:13:22.000 We're so done. 1.00
00:13:23.000 There's a new spot. 1.00
00:13:25.000 They can't fuck with you. 0.99
00:13:26.000 We're going to make our own laws. 1.00
00:13:26.000 And that got all crazy and cunty. 1.00
00:13:29.000 And people just decided to keep going.
00:13:31.000 And a lot of people kept going.
00:13:32.000 And they just kept going. 0.99
00:13:33.000 They eventually, on fucking horses with wooden wheels, got all the way to the other side. 1.00
00:13:39.000 And were like, fuck, we can't go any further. 0.99
00:13:41.000 Alright, let's stop. 0.99
00:13:42.000 People complain when the transatlantic flight is delayed by 30 minutes.
00:13:45.000 They don't remember what our ancestors went through, right?
00:13:47.000 Yeah, they had to eat each other, man.
00:13:48.000 They would eat each other in the mountains.
00:13:51.000 That's no joke, man.
00:13:53.000 It was a scary time for human beings.
00:13:55.000 And I think there was a lot of times where people would start out and not make it.
00:14:02.000 I think it's always a scary time for human beings, though, Joe.
00:14:04.000 I mean, this is the scary game we're all playing, right?
00:14:07.000 It is.
00:14:07.000 It's the same scary game we were playing when I was in high school.
00:14:10.000 When I was in high school, it was about the Soviets.
00:14:12.000 It was always...
00:14:13.000 You were talking about that recently.
00:14:13.000 People forget.
00:14:14.000 I mean, I used to go to sleep at night really worried about nuclear war.
00:14:18.000 How old are you?
00:14:18.000 I'm 41. Remember that movie The Day After?
00:14:21.000 It was on when I was like 10 or 12.
00:14:23.000 It was this whole television movie about basically a nuclear war and the end of it.
00:14:26.000 I mean, I stood up.
00:14:27.000 I was up for days scared about that.
00:14:29.000 I don't remember that one in particular, but I bet I saw it.
00:14:32.000 I've seen so many of them. 0.95
00:14:33.000 I've seen so many apocalyptic Mad Max type movies where for some reason, you know, I am legend type shit goes down. 0.95
00:14:40.000 Do you think America needs an enemy? 0.93
00:14:42.000 Like, do we need someone to kind of always be the bad guy?
00:14:45.000 Well, we're not real.
00:14:46.000 So when you say, does America need an enemy?
00:14:48.000 America's not even real.
00:14:49.000 It's just a bunch of humans.
00:14:51.000 And they decide to call it America and act as a group.
00:14:54.000 But it's pretty obvious at this point that that's not real.
00:14:57.000 It's us that's real.
00:14:58.000 It's humans.
00:14:59.000 And it might as well be you guys.
00:15:00.000 When you're here, you're Americans.
00:15:01.000 It's like, what is America? 1.00
00:15:03.000 It's just a fucking spot. 1.00
00:15:04.000 It's just a spot. 1.00
00:15:05.000 And the idea that this spot acts as one unit and we should all go along with what the spot's doing, that's fucking completely ridiculous. 0.98
00:15:14.000 Because we don't get a say. 0.97
00:15:15.000 And what they're doing is completely contrary to what most of the people in this country would want to get done.
00:15:20.000 So what we have is like a fake country.
00:15:24.000 And we have really a dictatorship that's run by money.
00:15:29.000 And it's just run with a loose grip.
00:15:31.000 It's not run with a dog collar around your neck so you constantly feel oppressed.
00:15:36.000 It's run with a loose grip of corruption.
00:15:38.000 It's a loose grip of corruption and entanglement where there's no way to get into the system. 0.64
00:15:42.000 Where a guy like Gary Johnson, who's the only one left running for president who makes any fucking sense, the libertarian candidate can't even get in on the debates because they won't treat him seriously. 0.92
00:15:51.000 Because the media is really fake. 0.87
00:15:55.000 The media is really bought and sold and it's a news program.
00:15:59.000 It's a news program where they pick and choose what aspects of the news, what angle of the news, instead of giving you all the information and anything that has anything to do with criticizing America or anything that shows America in a bad light.
00:16:15.000 It's all got to be reviewed before it's put on air.
00:16:17.000 So, you know, while I was watching you, while you were giving that speech, I just really felt that you really want people to wake up.
00:16:24.000 You really are trying to...
00:16:25.000 They should wake up, too.
00:16:26.000 They can't operate like this.
00:16:27.000 They don't have to.
00:16:28.000 The news doesn't have to operate like this.
00:16:30.000 The government doesn't have to operate like this.
00:16:32.000 The corporations don't have to operate like this.
00:16:35.000 No one's saying you can't do business. 0.98
00:16:36.000 What we're saying is business doesn't mean you have to fucking rob people. 0.79
00:16:40.000 Business doesn't mean you have to use lobbyists to influence policy so that you can pollute rivers. 0.98
00:16:45.000 Business doesn't mean that you can store nuclear waste in the middle of the fucking desert because you don't know how to get rid of it. 0.91
00:16:51.000 You're not supposed to do any of that stuff. 0.94
00:16:53.000 Until you know how to get rid of it, don't make it. 0.93
00:16:55.000 We really probably shouldn't even be on fucking nuclear power because we've had several major incidents over the past 100 years. 0.99
00:17:05.000 100 years ain't shit when it comes to how long the fucking earth is and how long radioactive material lasts. 0.99
00:17:11.000 So if you're having nuclear, if they've put together these power plants that if something goes wrong, that spot is poison for 100,000 years. 0.99
00:17:21.000 You cannot live there anymore. 0.89
00:17:23.000 And then even after 100,000 years, who's going to be the first to fucking move back there? 0.98
00:17:28.000 If we've keeping any sort of accurate records whatsoever, who the fuck is going to be the first person to move back to where there was a nuclear disaster and power plants imploded? 0.96
00:17:38.000 No one's going to do that.
00:17:40.000 So that spot's ruined essentially for longer than humans have existed.
00:17:44.000 That's how long we've ruined Chernobyl. 0.66
00:17:47.000 That's how long we've ruined Fukushima.
00:17:49.000 We're ruining these spots.
00:17:51.000 And there's a lot of power plants, man.
00:17:54.000 Hundreds of them all over the place.
00:17:55.000 And they could all equal a spot where one day you can't go anywhere near them.
00:18:00.000 We're assuming we're going to be able to keep the power on. 0.99
00:18:03.000 Indefinitely and cool these fucking things off. 0.99
00:18:05.000 That's why they've built them. 0.99
00:18:05.000 Yeah, but it's in our human nature to only change your behavior when something really bad happens. 0.99
00:18:10.000 It's just the way it is, right?
00:18:11.000 Well, it's fascinating.
00:18:12.000 It's just an aspect of denial.
00:18:14.000 And that's how corporations work. 0.95
00:18:16.000 The reason why corporations are able to get away with the shit they do, bribe politicians, and influence literally war and murder, is because they act as a group that's just trying to get zeros and ones. 0.97
00:18:29.000 They're just trying to get money. 0.98
00:18:30.000 So they don't look at things in terms of their moral value.
00:18:35.000 They look at things in terms of, is this good for our stockholders?
00:18:40.000 Is this good for our business?
00:18:41.000 Can we make a profit here?
00:18:43.000 Can we get over there? 0.99
00:18:43.000 And when you have companies where you get a guy like Dick Cheney, who's the fucking head of a company called Halliburton, That fixes shit up after it gets blown up. 0.99
00:18:52.000 And then this guy becomes the vice president and just starts blowing shit up and then giving these contracts to the company that he used to run. 0.98
00:18:59.000 That is one of the craziest things that's ever happened in front of human beings. 0.99
00:19:05.000 It was essentially a jacking on television live, publicly, and government-sanctioned where they jacked a whole country and jacked the American people, too, and made us Give money to these corporations that would fix shit that we blow up. 0.98
00:19:21.000 And even build shit that's not necessary. 0.93
00:19:24.000 If you talk to people that are over there, they'll tell you that they just have a certain amount of money they're supposed to spend. 0.99
00:19:30.000 And they have a certain amount of projects.
00:19:32.000 They can build a desalinization plan. 0.96
00:19:34.000 The people are like, we don't fucking need this. 0.95
00:19:36.000 We're building it. 0.98
00:19:37.000 You need it, you want it, it doesn't matter.
00:19:39.000 We're building a desalinization plan because we got the contract for it.
00:19:42.000 And it's just billions of dollars is going over there.
00:19:45.000 Billions and billions.
00:19:47.000 Neil deGrasse Tyson had a speech where he was talking about that we have the capability now, we have the knowledge and the know-how to build a telescope that literally can go back and look at the beginnings of time.
00:19:58.000 Like, we can build a telescope that is just infinitely more powerful than anything that exists today.
00:20:03.000 It would cost about ten million dollars.
00:20:05.000 Ten billion dollars to, you know, it sounds like an incredible amount of money, until you find out how much money they spend in Iraq.
00:20:11.000 They spend ten billion dollars every few days.
00:20:14.000 It's just constant.
00:20:15.000 Our species must have a really negative karma because we have so much potential, but we just seem to channel it in the wrong direction.
00:20:23.000 Maybe it's not us.
00:20:24.000 Maybe it's just our karma that we're burning through. 1.00
00:20:26.000 We have to go through all this shit. 1.00
00:20:28.000 Who knows? 1.00
00:20:28.000 It's not us. 1.00
00:20:30.000 Look, the business of running countries has not changed.
00:20:34.000 Although the access to information has changed radically, so the understanding of what a country really is has changed radically.
00:20:40.000 But the business of running countries has not changed.
00:20:43.000 The same thing that they did during the Roman Empire, they're doing today. 0.88
00:20:47.000 They're just doing it through a loose series of guidelines. 0.99
00:20:51.000 But it's really clear that they're robbing countries' resources, controlling people's militaries, attacking people mercilessly, We have fucking robots that we operate with remote control from the other side of the planet that shoot missiles from the sky that kill people. 0.99
00:21:12.000 Like that is bananas. 0.97
00:21:14.000 The fact that that's one of the major ways that we rocket in 2012 We literally send fucking Darth Vader spaceships that shoot rockets from the sky. 0.97
00:21:24.000 That's insane.
00:21:26.000 Joe, do you ever get concerned that you might face repercussions from the US government one way or another for the views you promote on your show?
00:21:33.000 Well, no.
00:21:35.000 Everything that I'm saying is all obvious.
00:21:37.000 It's all right out there in the open.
00:21:39.000 If you want to look at the Halliburton thing, it's not like that. 0.99
00:21:42.000 Fucking Rogan, he gave up the goods on Halliburton. 1.00
00:21:44.000 Everybody knows that Halliburton is a completely corrupt... 1.00
00:21:48.000 The relationship that Halliburton to the United States is completely corrupt.
00:21:51.000 Just by virtue of the fact that they got no big contracts.
00:21:54.000 These enormous, enormous contracts.
00:21:56.000 That's not the taxpayers being looked after.
00:21:58.000 That's not the government being frugal or being conservative with money.
00:22:01.000 That's a relationship between someone who influenced either directly with money or indirectly by getting their former CEO to run the country.
00:22:11.000 I think the idea of a corporation is a good thing. 0.92
00:22:12.000 I just think you need to regulate the fuck out of them.
00:22:14.000 They have to have a good mindset. 0.93
00:22:16.000 From just a limited liability corporate standpoint, you do believe that there's a reason for them.
00:22:21.000 Because otherwise, you couldn't invest in Onnit.
00:22:24.000 Otherwise, they might come and take your car away.
00:22:27.000 I believe in paying taxes.
00:22:29.000 I pay my taxes.
00:22:31.000 I never cheat on my taxes.
00:22:32.000 I pay a lot of money in taxes.
00:22:34.000 I believe in state taxes, too.
00:22:38.000 I pay state taxes in California.
00:22:41.000 I know a lot of people that move to Nevada strictly because they don't have to pay state taxes.
00:22:45.000 I don't mind paying for things.
00:22:47.000 I don't mind government.
00:22:48.000 I think it all can be done correctly, but it's all going to be done with love.
00:22:54.000 It can't be done with fear.
00:22:56.000 And it's all being done with fear.
00:22:57.000 The whole way the world is being done is being done with fear. 1.00
00:23:00.000 And everybody's like, fuck you, I'm going to nuke you. 1.00
00:23:03.000 If there were people, they would be the most ridiculous people ever. 1.00
00:23:06.000 If Iran and Israel were people, you'd want to kill the both of them. 1.00
00:23:10.000 You'd be like, will you two just shut the fuck up? 1.00
00:23:14.000 My God, you bickering cunts. 1.00
00:23:16.000 You next door neighbors who just, you're a fucking baby, you're a baby. 1.00
00:23:20.000 This one asshole has a cartoon bomb he's using in a UN speech to show, when it gets to here... 1.00
00:23:27.000 That's when we're in trouble! 1.00
00:23:29.000 It's a bomb showing Iran's nuclear capabilities. 0.96
00:23:31.000 Have you seen this?
00:23:32.000 Pull this up, Brian. 1.00
00:23:35.000 Netanyahu, that motherfucker. 1.00
00:23:36.000 That silly bitch. 1.00
00:23:38.000 Netanyahu, who's the prime minister of Israel, he's showing when we have to attack Iran. 1.00
00:23:44.000 He's got this nuclear bomb, and it's like, get to a certain point, and that's when you've got to attack.
00:23:48.000 They're insecure over there and they're like pawns in a little chess game that all the big powers are playing.
00:23:52.000 What's his name?
00:23:53.000 Netanyahu?
00:23:56.000 Netanyahu.
00:23:56.000 Netanyahu.
00:23:59.000 Netanyahu bomb cartoon.
00:24:01.000 I think we need some joint Israeli-Palestinian podcasts.
00:24:04.000 I think we just need them talking.
00:24:05.000 Shut them in a room together.
00:24:08.000 That's the conflict to end all conflicts.
00:24:12.000 That's the conflict that's been going on forever.
00:24:15.000 It's never going to end.
00:24:18.000 Look at that picture. 1.00
00:24:20.000 Is that the most ridiculous shit ever? 1.00
00:24:22.000 He's like, well, this is it. 1.00
00:24:24.000 When Aminijad said it's childish, and I agree with Aminijad. 1.00
00:24:27.000 How about that? 0.99
00:24:28.000 The dude who fucking says there's no Iranian gays. 1.00
00:24:31.000 He doesn't believe in gay marriage. 1.00
00:24:34.000 Who knows what Aminijad really said.
00:24:37.000 Is he a Holocaust denier?
00:24:38.000 Aminijad is, yeah.
00:24:40.000 Meanwhile, I believe in him when his taste in cartoons is excellent.
00:24:44.000 At least you're honest.
00:24:46.000 It seems like, you know, if corporations and governments all sort of have this diffusion of responsibility, and even though we're in America, all the things that go on that we don't agree with, like drone attacks and all this shit, you know, it becomes a matter of how much of an impact does that have on the whole rest of the population?
00:25:09.000 And if it only has a minor impact on the rest of the population, a lot of times you can get away with it.
00:25:13.000 And that's the situation that we're in right now.
00:25:16.000 We know that in order to change things, it would require a major overhaul.
00:25:21.000 And it would be really difficult for a lot of people.
00:25:24.000 I mean, the government is comprised of a huge amount of human beings.
00:25:30.000 There's a lot of people that essentially are completely unnecessary if we had a real just and true government.
00:25:36.000 They're really not necessary.
00:25:37.000 I don't really believe in the conspiracies.
00:25:39.000 I think it's just people have these positions where they have these great jobs and they're collecting money as a contractor, Halliburton.
00:25:44.000 And why change things?
00:25:45.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that.
00:25:46.000 But there's also conspiring.
00:25:48.000 We know they conspired with Enron and essentially Halliburton was allowed to conspire.
00:25:53.000 Halliburton's a clear conspiracy.
00:25:55.000 But we also know a lot about government conspiracy from the past that's not just like ideas and thoughts, but stuff that actually has been proven to have happened.
00:26:05.000 Like the Gulf of Tonkin, the idea that they got us into a war in Vietnam with like a fake story.
00:26:12.000 The Operation Northwoods, Operation Dirty Trick, which is where they were going to blow...
00:26:16.000 John Glenn was going to be the first person into orbit.
00:26:20.000 And if anything happened to his space shuttle, his rocket...
00:26:24.000 They were going to blame it on the Cubans. 0.99
00:26:26.000 We were going to blow up some fucking... 1.00
00:26:28.000 It was a reason to attack Cuba. 1.00
00:26:30.000 We were like, look, it's a win-win.
00:26:31.000 If John Glenn makes it, he's the first guy in space.
00:26:34.000 If it doesn't make it, we blame it on the Cubans. 1.00
00:26:36.000 We go fuck them up. 1.00
00:26:37.000 And that was the plan. 1.00
00:26:39.000 This is not a conspiracy.
00:26:40.000 This is written documents.
00:26:43.000 Do you think the government needs some secrecy?
00:26:44.000 Otherwise, there's no diplomacy?
00:26:46.000 No.
00:26:46.000 There shouldn't be diplomacy.
00:26:48.000 Obama can't announce the night before he's going to go in and...
00:26:52.000 No, of course.
00:26:54.000 First of all, I don't believe they did assassinate Bin Laden.
00:26:57.000 Really?
00:26:57.000 No.
00:26:58.000 I think that dude's been dead for years.
00:27:01.000 I've talked to people...
00:27:02.000 If I had to say, I'd probably say that more than anything else, that Joe is fishy.
00:27:06.000 I've talked to dudes who are in special forces type jobs and they're like, that guy's been dead forever. 0.98
00:27:13.000 They're like, I don't know what the fuck happened. 0.74
00:27:15.000 And dudes were laughing about it. 0.98
00:27:17.000 Just didn't sound right, that story.
00:27:18.000 Nope.
00:27:18.000 Didn't sound right to anybody in any other country either.
00:27:21.000 Did you hear about that guy that wrote that book that's like a national bestseller that he was one of the guys?
00:27:26.000 Yeah, he was one of the guys.
00:27:26.000 His story differs from the government version of it.
00:27:28.000 Yeah, he said it was really weird.
00:27:30.000 His beard was completely black when they came in and there was no gray hairs and stuff.
00:27:34.000 Would he be really just fermenting his beard?
00:27:38.000 Well, he might.
00:27:39.000 Brendan Walsh does. 0.99
00:27:40.000 I think it looks sexy as fuck on Brendan. 0.99
00:27:42.000 I would support it. 0.98
00:27:43.000 Yeah, why not?
00:27:44.000 You do it, you don't do it.
00:27:45.000 Who cares?
00:27:47.000 Who cares?
00:27:50.000 I don't think...
00:27:51.000 The whole reason why that guy existed is because we do...
00:27:56.000 The only way a guy like Osama Bin Laden or any of these radical guys ever exists is there's got to be some great empire to oppose.
00:28:06.000 And it's not a great empire of altruism that's trying to help people all over the world and trying to enhance the lives of people and clean up their areas and make money in helping countries instead of making money and just robbing their resources and then taking out their military and taking out their government.
00:28:25.000 All empires collapse though, Joe.
00:28:26.000 It will collapse sooner or later.
00:28:27.000 Yeah, that's the problem.
00:28:28.000 We don't have to have an empire.
00:28:30.000 See, that's the problem. 0.99
00:28:31.000 All empires do collapse because they're run by cunts. 1.00
00:28:34.000 You can't run an empire and not be a cunt. 1.00
00:28:36.000 What we need is civilization. 1.00
00:28:39.000 We don't need an empire anymore.
00:28:40.000 All these organizations, they're not necessary.
00:28:46.000 What we need to figure out is how natural resources can be distributed equally to all nations. 0.85
00:28:52.000 That sounds fucked up, but that reality is, otherwise, everyone's just going to go where the resources are. 0.87
00:28:57.000 Brian, I argue about this a lot. 0.98
00:29:00.000 I'd like to believe that that's the case, that we can have a fair society, but I think, Brian, you believe that human nature is never going to happen, right?
00:29:10.000 I mean I have a lot of thoughts about human nature.
00:29:12.000 I think humans are inherently lazy and if we had like a socialist system a lot of people wouldn't do anything.
00:29:16.000 So I think capitalism does motivate people to a certain extent.
00:29:19.000 Of course it can go a little too far.
00:29:21.000 It certainly can.
00:29:22.000 Especially when these corporations start acting in their own interests and they become really big.
00:29:25.000 And so it certainly is a great motivating factor.
00:29:27.000 I believe you should be rewarded for your efforts. 0.99
00:29:30.000 I mean I believe that in many of the ideas that go behind capitalism, where I think we fuck up is with shit like the stock market. 0.97
00:29:38.000 Things that can be manipulated, where you can gamble on people. 0.98
00:29:41.000 I've got to talk to you about derivatives.
00:29:43.000 I've got to drop some signs.
00:29:44.000 Please explain.
00:29:45.000 I actually spent some time in Boston.
00:29:47.000 I spent four years at MIT. I think around the same time you were there.
00:29:50.000 I don't know if I went to many comedy clubs when I was there. 0.96
00:29:53.000 That's a fucking awesome town if it wasn't so cold. 0.96
00:29:57.000 Especially Cambridge. 0.99
00:29:58.000 What a great place.
00:29:59.000 We were right across from the Necco wafer factory on 233 Mass.
00:30:02.000 So you understand derivatives?
00:30:05.000 I got a mechanical engineering degree, but I went straight to Wall Street afterwards and worked in banking.
00:30:09.000 And then for the last 10 years, I worked in London in the credit derivative industry.
00:30:13.000 The worst of all derivatives.
00:30:14.000 So what is it?
00:30:15.000 It's your gambling that things are going to fail, right?
00:30:18.000 I was thinking about how I could talk about this, and I hear you talk about it all the time, so I figure out my book.
00:30:21.000 Is it frustrating? 1.00
00:30:22.000 Like this retard fucking nonsense is he saying. 1.00
00:30:25.000 It's like, I have friends that will talk about jiu-jitsu. 1.00
00:30:28.000 You know, like, oh, Hoist Gracie, what do you do?
00:30:30.000 Just reach over and grab their neck. 0.99
00:30:32.000 I'm like, no, he didn't.
00:30:33.000 It could be worse.
00:30:34.000 You could have friends that talk about kung fu, right, and tell them how effective it is.
00:30:38.000 Oh, no.
00:30:39.000 I had a guy, in fact, this is the worst shout out I could ever give anyone, but he said to me, and he popped up in the chat one, he was like, try to talk to Joe about Kung Fu, because I think he has some negative ideas.
00:30:50.000 I was like, look, dude, I don't really believe in Kung Fu myself, so it's going to be tough for me to convince him.
00:30:55.000 Well, you know, it's not that Kung Fu doesn't work.
00:30:57.000 It's just, it's definitely not the best way to go.
00:30:59.000 It's that simple.
00:31:00.000 There's a lot of stuff that works.
00:31:02.000 You know, if you backfist someone in the face, I mean, it's not going to feel good.
00:31:05.000 It's not going to feel good to get backfisted in the face. 0.97
00:31:08.000 But it's not as good as you fucking overhand right somebody. 0.98
00:31:10.000 It's just not. 0.93
00:31:11.000 I think a better qualifier is it's not that it doesn't work.
00:31:13.000 It's just it doesn't work on the right people.
00:31:15.000 You know, you could probably knock out an 86-year-old grandmother with the white crane dancing tiger technique. 0.98
00:31:20.000 Try it on an MMA fighter, it's not going to happen. 0.99
00:31:22.000 Well, it's also the way they practice it, the way a lot of people are practicing it, I'm like, oh my god, you're being silly. 0.88
00:31:29.000 It's like you're throwing a punch, and then you're pretending that if you threw that punch, what I would do is I would step right here, and then I would attack your organs like this with a claw motion. 0.87
00:31:39.000 Like, come on, you're not going to do that. 0.92
00:31:42.000 That guy's going to punch you again and again and again. 1.00
00:31:43.000 He's going to kick you in the dick. 1.00
00:31:44.000 It's going to be a lot of shit happening. 1.00
00:31:46.000 You're not going to have time to get off that claw to the liver. 0.98
00:31:49.000 We just had Roger Gracie in the studio on Friday, and he was talking about, we were rubbishing off Kung Fu and Karate, something bad, we're gonna get some hate, but he was talking about the kata, and how if you get good at the kata, you get your belt, and he was like, but in Jiu Jitsu, you spar, and you have to test, you can put a choke on someone, but what about if he doesn't want you to put it on?
00:32:05.000 And he just was kind of breaking down some of the core differences.
00:32:09.000 Yeah, there's a big difference.
00:32:10.000 I have a black belt in Taekwondo as well, and in Taekwondo there was guys that were black belts that weren't that good.
00:32:16.000 They just weren't that good.
00:32:17.000 They had been around a long time, they'd take their forms, and they did okay in sparring, but the reality is they weren't really black belts.
00:32:24.000 They never reached that expert level.
00:32:26.000 Like, they could get mugged. 1.00
00:32:27.000 Someone could kick their ass. 1.00
00:32:29.000 Like, they really weren't adept at fighting. 1.00
00:32:31.000 Do you know what I find is very interesting, Joe, which you might appreciate is if you look at some of those more ridiculous martial arts, you see a guy who's like 45 or 50. If you see a jiu-jitsu guy at that age, he's tough.
00:32:42.000 He still rolls.
00:32:43.000 He's in shape.
00:32:44.000 But you see one of these guys and without fail, every single 45-year-old plus Traditional martial artist is the guy who's got like a slouch and a beer belly and you can see he hasn't done a push-up for like 15 years, you know what I mean?
00:32:57.000 Yeah, those like uchiru guys. 1.00
00:32:59.000 And the weirdest thing is they want to be called by some weird title as well.
00:33:05.000 You said it was in the face.
00:33:06.000 You pulled up like some Facebook the other day and you saw a guy with a black belt and you're like, look at his face.
00:33:11.000 It's not a jiu-jitsu black belt.
00:33:12.000 Because he didn't have the lines on his face from all those hard days of rolling.
00:33:15.000 Because he doesn't test himself.
00:33:17.000 He just hides behind.
00:33:18.000 He gets his belt or he gets his certificate and he says, okay, that's me.
00:33:21.000 I'm this grandmaster.
00:33:23.000 And then all the little students bow to him because they think he's got mystical powers.
00:33:26.000 But at the end of the day, he's not progressing.
00:33:28.000 He's not progressing in his art.
00:33:29.000 It just makes my blood boil, man.
00:33:31.000 For those who don't know it, Nick is a jujitsu black belt.
00:33:33.000 Yeah, that's what jujitsu is all about, exposing reality.
00:33:39.000 And there's a lot of martial arts that are about putting on a show.
00:33:42.000 It's really kind of completely contrary to jujitsu.
00:33:46.000 Taekwondo had a big impact on me as a child because in doing something that was difficult in Taekwondo, it was like the first character-forming thing that I did as a person.
00:33:59.000 But there's a lot of cult aspects to it.
00:34:01.000 You know, the bowing and calling the instructor sir and always bowing to them. 0.98
00:34:08.000 None of that shit's in jiu-jitsu. 0.96
00:34:10.000 The respect is all real, legitimate, natural, friendly respect. 0.99
00:34:15.000 Like John Jacques Machado.
00:34:16.000 I have a black brother named John Jacques as well.
00:34:18.000 John Jock is not just a great jiu-jitsu coach.
00:34:22.000 He's like everyone's friend.
00:34:24.000 He's a really nice guy.
00:34:25.000 So he's very informal. 0.99
00:34:27.000 But no one ever disrespects him or no one ever takes advantage of that friendliness and thinks that they would be a better fighter than him or they can kick his ass sparring or something like that. 0.96
00:34:41.000 But karate guys will always have to put on... 0.96
00:34:43.000 I don't want to say always, because a lot of them...
00:34:46.000 It's done correctly, and it is a discipline, and it's all about maintaining the mindset of the Zen martial arts practitioner.
00:34:58.000 There's a lot of people that are legit about it. 0.98
00:34:59.000 But there's also a lot of people that just want to put up a fucking... 1.00
00:35:03.000 Dog and pony show so that you don't challenge them and test them and then they develop a fucking god. 0.99
00:35:08.000 Joe, I got a great story for you. 0.99
00:35:10.000 We'll get back to derivatives.
00:35:11.000 Don't worry.
00:35:13.000 I won't leave without that.
00:35:15.000 When I first started grappling in Cape Town, just after the first UFC and I was just starting to Ooh!
00:35:36.000 Ooh! 0.96
00:35:40.000 What is that, by the way?
00:35:41.000 What is ninjutsu?
00:35:42.000 It's what I wanted to learn.
00:35:43.000 When I was a kid, I looked at martial arts magazines.
00:35:45.000 I was trying to pick out martial arts to learn before I practiced anything.
00:35:48.000 I was like, I'd be pretty good to be a ninja.
00:35:50.000 Ninjas are cool.
00:35:51.000 But I needed something where you could get a black belt.
00:35:53.000 That's one of the reasons I went with karate first.
00:35:56.000 I wanted to get a black belt.
00:35:57.000 You don't even know who's the best one.
00:35:59.000 They all dress the same.
00:36:01.000 I need a belt, man.
00:36:03.000 So they get to this ninjutsu school and they say to the guy, you know, we'd like to spar with you.
00:36:07.000 We'd like to see your system and what you can do.
00:36:09.000 So he said you will wait until after the class and so they were like okay this they stuck on watch them walk on their hands whatever it is you do in jiu-jitsu class and Then at the end of the class the instructor said he said students we have a challenger and What he did is he took out a blindfold he walked to the center of the mat and he knelt down crossed his arm or put the blindfold and crossed his arms and Then said to my buddy. 0.99
00:36:36.000 He said attack me Get the fuck out of here. 0.99
00:36:39.000 I couldn't make this up. 1.00
00:36:40.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00
00:36:42.000 He might be crazy. 1.00
00:36:44.000 Did you just punt him in the face? 0.99
00:36:46.000 Well, my buddy looked around the room looking for a camera.
00:36:48.000 He was like, this has got to be some kind of joke.
00:36:50.000 And then he just kind of ran around to the back of him and put on a rear naked choke.
00:36:54.000 And this guy squealed and didn't know what was going on.
00:36:57.000 And eventually, the guy let him go.
00:36:59.000 And that was the end of ninjitsu for our training, I guess.
00:37:03.000 Well, he was really nice about it, because he could have just punted him in the face.
00:37:07.000 It's nice that he... 0.98
00:37:08.000 Like a pride kick in the face. 1.00
00:37:09.000 Yeah, yeah, fucking Shogun style. 1.00
00:37:12.000 2004. No, instead he decided to choke him. 1.00
00:37:15.000 That's a very nice guy, because he could have just run up and just kneed the fuck out of his face. 0.99
00:37:19.000 Or woe-sham-bowed him, right? 1.00
00:37:20.000 Yeah, he's a silly bitch. 1.00
00:37:21.000 What are you doing? 1.00
00:37:22.000 Attack me? 1.00
00:37:23.000 Oh my god, you're crazy! 0.99
00:37:25.000 There's a lot of dudes who got mad at me online, a lot of these black dudes that do kung fu in New York. 0.99
00:37:31.000 Because there's like a whole culture.
00:37:32.000 Like from the Warriors, that kind of kung fu?
00:37:34.000 Remember those guys?
00:37:35.000 Most of it's fake kung fu. 0.99
00:37:36.000 When I say fake kung fu, it's like a lot of they're doing, they're making shit up. 1.00
00:37:40.000 Like, what if you did like this? 0.99
00:37:42.000 Oh man, you can't do like that.
00:37:43.000 Look at how much you got exposed.
00:37:45.000 Like this area, I'm attacking your knee here, son.
00:37:47.000 Like you got problems here. 0.97
00:37:49.000 You know, I got a tiger claw to the side of your neck. 0.99
00:37:52.000 Your whole side of your neck is wide open.
00:37:54.000 Like, they talk completely...
00:37:56.000 This is entertaining stuff.
00:37:57.000 Oh, I like watching.
00:37:58.000 I laugh my ass off at them.
00:37:59.000 Look, these guys want to believe that they're real martial artists and they're really mad at me.
00:38:03.000 And the guy was like, come on, son.
00:38:04.000 You tell me if I hit you in the face with a monkey paw, that wouldn't hurt? 0.99
00:38:08.000 Yeah, if I let you hit me in the face with a monkey paw, it would probably hurt. 0.96
00:38:12.000 That's not what I'm saying here. 0.99
00:38:14.000 What I'm saying is you're practicing some nonsense, kid.
00:38:17.000 But we all have aspects of our life in which we're deluding ourselves.
00:38:20.000 We just probably can't identify them.
00:38:22.000 For them, it's martial arts.
00:38:24.000 For us, it may be our relationships or whatever.
00:38:27.000 Yeah, people love to delude themselves.
00:38:29.000 It's way easier than facing the insignificance of your reality in this crazy picture of the whole universe.
00:38:34.000 Yeah, it's a protection mechanism for the brain, right?
00:38:36.000 What the ego's there for, to give you a reason to stay alive until you can get enlightened enough that you no longer need the ego to appreciate this existence.
00:38:44.000 But the ego is there to keep you alive. 0.99
00:38:46.000 You're super special when you're a fucking 10-year-old. 1.00
00:38:49.000 That makes sense. 1.00
00:38:51.000 That makes so much sense.
00:38:52.000 It's an engine to push you forward.
00:38:55.000 And then from there, it's all about getting enlightened to the point where you no longer need the ego to enjoy the existence.
00:39:02.000 But that doesn't happen in the West.
00:39:03.000 Yeah, it does.
00:39:04.000 It happens.
00:39:06.000 You can do it.
00:39:07.000 I did it.
00:39:07.000 I mean, I'm not perfect, but I'm certainly way more evolved than I was when I was a younger person.
00:39:12.000 Was that through training or through psychedelics or what?
00:39:14.000 Both.
00:39:14.000 All of the above.
00:39:15.000 Jiu-Jitsu for sure helped. 0.97
00:39:17.000 I've been doing Jiu-Jitsu since 96, and I think just getting constantly fucking strangled and going at it until your heart's going to explode in your chest and you're trying not to tap.
00:39:28.000 But you've got to realize you've got to tap and then you've got to go again because there's still four minutes left in the round. 0.91
00:39:33.000 And you're going at it.
00:39:34.000 And you develop these intense relationships with people because you understand their character.
00:39:40.000 You see dudes that break.
00:39:42.000 You see dudes that will never break.
00:39:43.000 You know guys that are so tough to tap.
00:39:45.000 And you know guys that are a monster out of the gate but then they run out of gas.
00:39:50.000 That's me.
00:39:51.000 It's so different.
00:39:53.000 Even one level up is like I'm a Jiu Jitsu instructor and then I don't know if all Jiu-Jitsu instructors have it.
00:39:59.000 I'd love to hear from some of the others.
00:40:01.000 But when all your students are watching and there's that young, tough 20-year-old kid and he's like the tough proper belt and you're tired and you've got to carry an injury or something, you know you've got to put it on the line. 0.99
00:40:11.000 These fuckers aren't going to respect you anymore. 0.99
00:40:13.000 It's really tough. 1.00
00:40:14.000 It's true.
00:40:14.000 It's difficult.
00:40:15.000 And you know what?
00:40:16.000 The reality is, there's a lot of instructors out there with Marcelo Garcia comes to their school, they're going to get tapped.
00:40:22.000 So they have to figure out what to do here.
00:40:25.000 Do I just let everybody know, yeah, Marcelo can tap me, and this is how, watch me get treated like a baby.
00:40:30.000 I mean, a lot of people have a real issue with that.
00:40:33.000 And then there's a lot of dudes that say, you know, okay, now I'm an instructor.
00:40:36.000 Like, I have to make sure I'm lifting weights.
00:40:39.000 You know, I have to be bigger and stronger.
00:40:42.000 Like, Eddie Bravo talks about that.
00:40:43.000 Like, he fights for his life when he's in those classes.
00:40:47.000 Because Eddie's...
00:40:48.000 At such a high level right now, especially his guard. 1.00
00:40:51.000 His guard is fucking so nasty. 0.97
00:40:53.000 I've rolled with a lot of dudes, but he's one of the few guys, him and Denny, they're one of the few guys that consistently catch me from their guard. 0.99
00:41:00.000 From the guard. 0.92
00:41:01.000 Yeah, it's fucking hard to catch someone from the guard. 0.99
00:41:03.000 Joe, man, I gotta roll with you. 0.98
00:41:05.000 Yeah, we gotta roll.
00:41:05.000 Seriously, dude.
00:41:06.000 Okay, maybe Thursday.
00:41:07.000 Okay, cool.
00:41:09.000 But, yeah, come to 10th Planet.
00:41:11.000 Yeah, I will.
00:41:11.000 I'd love to have you guys.
00:41:13.000 I think that when you do that on a regular basis and you tap, You tap people.
00:41:20.000 You get tapped.
00:41:20.000 You strain.
00:41:21.000 You blow through all the energy that you have in an endeavor.
00:41:29.000 Especially one that's so primal.
00:41:31.000 Jiu-jitsu is so life and death.
00:41:34.000 Even though you can do it and no one gets hurt.
00:41:37.000 It's the craziest thing, man.
00:41:38.000 I have this theory that jiu-jitsu...
00:41:42.000 I reckon you would know more about someone after a 10-minute jiu-jitsu match than a 10-minute conversation. 1.00
00:41:47.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
00:41:47.000 10-hour conversation, man. 1.00
00:41:49.000 Yeah.
00:41:49.000 You see that character come through.
00:41:50.000 Maybe 10 fucking years. 0.99
00:41:52.000 You know, there's certain dudes where you tap them once and then they're done. 0.99
00:41:55.000 You own them.
00:41:56.000 You can just run right through them.
00:41:57.000 You know, even if they're not tired, they just start giving stuff up.
00:42:00.000 You know, you see it.
00:42:01.000 You see, like...
00:42:02.000 And you're like, come on, man.
00:42:03.000 Put your arm back.
00:42:04.000 You know, put your arm...
00:42:05.000 Tuck yourself.
00:42:05.000 You got to protect yourself.
00:42:07.000 Just get that leg, that leg, and you'll start walking through it.
00:42:09.000 You don't want them to break.
00:42:10.000 You want them to, like...
00:42:11.000 to build up and you know you want to like offer legitimate resistance and that's what sparring supposed to be about.
00:42:17.000 That happened to me in Brazil I went down as a white belt and I was training in Gracie Baja and like all week I was getting my ass tapped out as a white belt and then Friday was no gi day and I showed up obviously with no belt And I started rolling with this one dude, and I tapped him like six times.
00:42:30.000 And I think he just didn't know who I was.
00:42:32.000 And after that first tap, it was over.
00:42:34.000 Yeah, it can happen.
00:42:36.000 And then there's dudes that are like, I remember this guy, man.
00:42:38.000 This guy who just started doing jiu-jitsu. 0.53
00:42:40.000 He was this crazy Armenian dude. 1.00
00:42:42.000 I mean, he had just started. 0.95
00:42:43.000 He was just learning techniques.
00:42:45.000 And he would spar with anybody. 1.00
00:42:48.000 And this fucking guy just would not tap. 1.00
00:42:52.000 He would fight to the death. 1.00
00:42:55.000 And watching him roll with people, I'm like, check this motherfucker out. 0.99
00:42:58.000 Like, you would think he was done. 1.00
00:42:59.000 And he would just, ah, just fucking struggling. 0.99
00:43:02.000 And he wasn't strong. 0.99
00:43:03.000 And he wasn't big. 1.00
00:43:04.000 He was just fucking proud as shit. 1.00
00:43:07.000 And bound and determined not to tap. 1.00
00:43:10.000 Not necessarily the best way to go about it.
00:43:11.000 No.
00:43:12.000 He had to get over that.
00:43:13.000 But you gave him some respect. 1.00
00:43:14.000 Oh, fuck yeah! 0.99
00:43:14.000 Well, I remember watching him because it was one of his first classes. 0.99
00:43:18.000 And, you know, it's fascinating to me watching people just start jiu-jitsu.
00:43:24.000 You know what, Joe?
00:43:27.000 The jiu-jitsu guys, we're the modern-day Jedi Knights.
00:43:30.000 Yeah.
00:43:31.000 You know, like Hickson would be like the Yoda equivalent.
00:43:33.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:43:35.000 It's kind of cool when you think about it that way.
00:43:37.000 We are people who take ourselves to the limit.
00:43:40.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:43:40.000 And...
00:43:41.000 That's why there's such a camaraderie between jiu-jitsu guys.
00:43:45.000 You know so much about a jiu-jitsu guy when you shake his hand.
00:43:49.000 Yeah, I think you have to have...
00:43:52.000 I always talk about how well jiu-jitsu guys have control of their ego.
00:43:57.000 It's very rare you run into a jiu-jitsu guy who's completely out of control.
00:44:01.000 So many of our early guests were actually jiu-jitsu guys because it was who we knew for London Real.
00:44:05.000 We must have had eight of them.
00:44:06.000 They were all just these cool, grounded...
00:44:10.000 Pretty humble dudes, still smart, still excelling in their field, but they were just, I don't know, they get checked on a regular basis?
00:44:16.000 That's what it is, man.
00:44:17.000 It's getting checked on a regular basis.
00:44:19.000 It's huge.
00:44:19.000 It's so important.
00:44:20.000 It's what I said about the ego.
00:44:22.000 Your ego, it leads you to victory.
00:44:24.000 It leads you to want the glory and the accolades. 1.00
00:44:28.000 But ultimately, it fucks you. 0.97
00:44:29.000 If you fight with your ego, everybody knows that, you'll lose your composure. 0.98
00:44:34.000 You'll get crazy, especially if you start getting tagged. 0.99
00:44:36.000 Instead of fighting smart, you'll just fucking flail back. 0.99
00:44:40.000 You'll try to attack back. 0.99
00:44:41.000 Which is oftentimes the total wrong approach.
00:44:44.000 Like, you have to do the right thing technically.
00:44:46.000 So you have to, if you're going to do the right thing technically, you have to be in complete control of your ego.
00:44:50.000 You can't even let that factor into the process.
00:44:52.000 You have to look at it as a game.
00:44:55.000 You can sense that, I mean, his presence, he is, we interviewed him on our show the other day, and one of the things I brought up was, I've known him for almost 10 years, and Joe, I swear to God, I've never seen him lose his cool.
00:45:06.000 He is the most zen person on the planet, or the most zen person I know.
00:45:13.000 It goes hand in hand with good jujitsu.
00:45:15.000 I notice the calmer I'm getting as a human being, maybe it's got to do with aging or meditation, the better my jujitsu is, the more I'm in touch with reality when I'm sparring with someone.
00:45:24.000 I find that interesting.
00:45:26.000 I do as well.
00:45:27.000 I think jujitsu is an excellent part of daily life for a man especially.
00:45:33.000 I think it's just one aspect.
00:45:35.000 Others are nutrition, philosophy, thought, conversation, conversation with others.
00:45:40.000 I know this podcast for sure.
00:45:42.000 People talk about how much this podcast has helped them.
00:45:45.000 Well, it's helped me, too, because it's helped me really review a lot of the ideas that I have in my head and my take on things.
00:45:53.000 And really, in projecting it out to other people, or broadcasting it out to people, you also are forced to sort of take a real account of all your thoughts.
00:46:05.000 And it's sort of like teaching jiu-jitsu makes your game better.
00:46:07.000 You learn by teaching.
00:46:09.000 Yeah, if you teach jiu-jitsu, man...
00:46:10.000 You've got to empathize, right?
00:46:11.000 Yeah, my friend Brent, a perfect example, was always like a decent purple belt. 0.99
00:46:16.000 But he wasn't like the best guy, and Man, he started fucking teaching.
00:46:22.000 He's a black belt now, but he started teaching, and when he was teaching, it's like, within a year, his game went up so many notches. 0.99
00:46:29.000 Like, all of a sudden, he was dangerous as fuck. 0.98
00:46:31.000 All of a sudden, every time you rolled with him, he was snatching camors, and you're like, oh, this is like, he's doing this perfect. 0.99
00:46:36.000 Like, he had the tech, his technique became so sharp from teaching.
00:46:40.000 Do you know why that is?
00:46:40.000 I actually found out the other day, because I noticed that as well.
00:46:43.000 When I started teaching full-time, I got quite a lot better, and we have, I don't know if I'm using the correct term, but there's a specific kind of neuron in our brain That fires when we see someone doing something it's I think it's called an empathy neuron and so when you're a teacher you watch your students and I don't know about your process when you teach them but for me I watch what they do and I kind of in my mind I overlay what it should look like there's like a mental video overlay and then eventually I'll show them what to do and they'll do it correctly and it's kind of like me doing the technique again does that make sense yes yeah so
00:47:14.000 I guess that's what's happening when you watch someone else doing something or if you just involved in the process that's where you can get better watching fight videos Yeah, absolutely.
00:47:21.000 And having knowledge of what to do already in your head, like having especially patterns.
00:47:27.000 Like the other day, I was rolling, and I had this guy in side control, and he tried to get up to one knee.
00:47:33.000 And as he tried to get up to one knee, I took his back, and it was all in one second.
00:47:37.000 The whole thing was like...
00:47:39.000 You know, it all just like, you know, it happens like you couldn't think, even if you were like an athletic person, you wouldn't be able to do it like that.
00:47:48.000 Because you know what's happening is your mind is being bypassed.
00:47:52.000 My first coach always said to me, he used to say, your body knows what to do, but your mind gets in the way.
00:47:58.000 Yes.
00:47:58.000 And when that happens for me, it's the most beautiful moment.
00:48:01.000 It's so crazy.
00:48:02.000 It's crazy, dude.
00:48:03.000 Because it happens and it really is like magic.
00:48:05.000 It's like all of a sudden you got this dude's back.
00:48:07.000 Whoosh! 0.92
00:48:08.000 You know, it's like, and especially if you freak a guy out, like if you get, he's like, holy shit, how'd this guy get my back like that? 0.96
00:48:14.000 Like, Marcelo's my favorite example of that. 0.99
00:48:17.000 When you watch, like, Marcelo's arm drag to back, there's a moment where these guys can't even believe this motherfucker got to, their back so quick! 0.99
00:48:26.000 Like, how did he do that? 0.98
00:48:27.000 You know, my buddy, my friend Alexis, he's a high-level blackball. 1.00
00:48:31.000 Now, this is one of those guys, he's a little bit, A little bit skinny, but he's reasonably athletic, but he's not like an Olympian.
00:48:38.000 So he's quite a fragile guy.
00:48:39.000 He's light.
00:48:39.000 He's like 150, 160 pounds.
00:48:41.000 And he is so goddamn technical. 0.99
00:48:44.000 He is literally like a surgeon wielding a scalpel. 0.99
00:48:49.000 And he told me he went to train with Marcelo and he said to me, Nick, I swear to God, it felt like that man was reading my mind.
00:48:57.000 Every move I did, he knew if I wanted to put my hand down to get my balance, because he'd off-balance me, he'd grab my hand.
00:49:03.000 And then he'd know I'd reach the counter with the other hand and he'd already have something queued up.
00:49:07.000 He said it was like reading my mind.
00:49:09.000 You rolled with him?
00:49:10.000 No, I've never rolled with him.
00:49:11.000 So, I mean, just think, like, for a high-level black belt to say that about Marcelo, isn't that exciting? 0.96
00:49:15.000 We could all one day get...
00:49:17.000 Perhaps close to that level?
00:49:19.000 Yeah.
00:49:19.000 The best guys I roll with are Jean-Jacques Machado.
00:49:22.000 I roll with him pretty regularly.
00:49:24.000 I've rolled with Eddie Bravo a bunch of times, of course.
00:49:28.000 And Denny.
00:49:30.000 Denny Propagos is one of Eddie's black belts.
00:49:32.000 He's got a nasty guard.
00:49:33.000 And he's a small dude.
00:49:34.000 He's only about 160 pounds.
00:49:36.000 Still.
00:49:37.000 Yeah, and he still can tap me from the guard regularly. 0.97
00:49:40.000 He's wicked.
00:49:41.000 Yeah, there's a lot. 1.00
00:49:43.000 Eddie's got a lot of guys that just have stupid guards. 1.00
00:49:46.000 Shigeki's another one, this dude. 1.00
00:49:47.000 And he's, you know, 135 pounds.
00:49:49.000 What do you do?
00:49:49.000 Are you a ground player?
00:49:50.000 Are you a ground player or a passer?
00:49:52.000 What's your style?
00:49:53.000 I've changed much more over the years and tried to be much more guard oriented and half guard oriented and earn top position, you know, because most of my game, most of my submissions were from the top and I realized that's unrealistic.
00:50:10.000 Roger's dad, Maurizio, I mean he's a red and white, red and black belt, so I mean this guy's legit.
00:50:18.000 And he said to me, I said when I was quite a bit younger, I said, like, man, you know, Maurizio, I thought about it, like, I don't want to play on my back because if I'm on my back, I'm just trying to get to the top anyway, so why don't I just go straight to the top?
00:50:29.000 And he said, you know, Nick, when you get older, you'll see you'll need your guard, bro.
00:50:32.000 You'll need it because there's much more energy conservation when you're on your back.
00:50:37.000 I didn't think about it, but the older I get, I kind of see that.
00:50:40.000 I know what he was talking about.
00:50:41.000 I like to earn it.
00:50:42.000 That's what Eddie always says.
00:50:43.000 If you're going to attack someone from the top, you should earn that position.
00:50:46.000 So I always start off from guard.
00:50:48.000 How often are you in 10th planet?
00:50:50.000 Well, I've been injured for five months. 0.67
00:50:53.000 I fucked my back up, and what I tried to do was... 1.00
00:50:56.000 I tried to just lightly roll like an asshole. 1.00
00:51:00.000 Even though I knew it was injured, I was like, I just roll with light guys and don't go hard. 1.00
00:51:05.000 And then I fucked it up way worse.
00:51:07.000 And the one day where I tried to roll light set me back three months. 0.97
00:51:13.000 Then I came back and I only trained for a couple days and I popped it out again.
00:51:16.000 But it was much more mild this time.
00:51:19.000 It was just a bad muscle tear.
00:51:21.000 And it's in my back.
00:51:22.000 It's...
00:51:23.000 Where you're, like, in between your shoulder blades.
00:51:26.000 Like, that's where I tore the muscles.
00:51:28.000 It was really weird.
00:51:29.000 It was a jiu-jitsu thing.
00:51:30.000 Are you going to be rolling until you're, like, 65, do you think?
00:51:32.000 Or later?
00:51:32.000 Are you going to be, like, Elio Gracie?
00:51:33.000 Until the wheels fall off.
00:51:36.000 I'm rolling until the wheels fall off.
00:51:38.000 I mean, I've got to say it was nice during the five months that I was off where I wasn't always tweaked.
00:51:45.000 It was always, like, my elbow.
00:51:46.000 I should have tapped from that.
00:51:48.000 I muscled out of it.
00:51:49.000 Or my neck got tweaked.
00:51:51.000 It's always something.
00:51:52.000 I don't know about you, but... 0.99
00:51:54.000 For me, and I'm sure for a few other Jiu Jitsu guys, when you get to the end of a hard week of training and you're just fucked. 0.95
00:51:59.000 Everything hurts and you've got that bone tiredness. 0.89
00:52:03.000 I used to fight against it, but now I kind of get off on that.
00:52:06.000 I feel like in my body I'm alive.
00:52:09.000 Do you know what I'm saying?
00:52:10.000 Well, you also feel like you've earned relaxation.
00:52:13.000 You've actually done something incredibly difficult.
00:52:16.000 Like, I had a great role last night, and I came home.
00:52:19.000 This is my third time back from the injury, and I'm like, I'm finally, like, pretty sure that it's...
00:52:24.000 If it's not 100%, it's definitely 90%, so I'm feeling great. 0.68
00:52:27.000 And I was just fucking exhausted. 0.76
00:52:29.000 And I just plopped out on the couch and watched TV. But I didn't feel guilty at all about watching TV. You know, it's like I did something... 0.96
00:52:36.000 I put forth some serious effort. 0.99
00:52:39.000 I don't feel like I can enjoy bullshit, like fucking off, like watching TV or something, unless I've done something hard. 0.99
00:52:46.000 I feel like you should reward yourself with bullshit, but it's all a matter of managing it. 0.99
00:52:53.000 You know, it's like, I like to watch TV or watch a movie after I've written for a few hours, you know? 0.99
00:52:59.000 Or I just like, okay, I did my work.
00:53:01.000 I can just shut off now.
00:53:02.000 Man, I can't do it, Joe.
00:53:03.000 You know, I was just telling Brian the other day, I sold my PlayStation and my TV. I realized I don't want it in my house anymore, man.
00:53:10.000 You know, it sounds a bit strange, but I always feel kind of empty after watching TV or, and it's not porn, or playing video games.
00:53:18.000 I don't feel like I've grown as a person.
00:53:19.000 I feel like I'm just like a vegetable, you know, and I'm happy to have it out the house.
00:53:23.000 Well, there's a very different feeling that I get from playing video games than I get from doing other things that are difficult, like pool.
00:53:30.000 I play pool, which is also a lot of people would say is a waste of time.
00:53:33.000 You know, like they always say that if someone is good at pool, it's a glorious result of a misspent youth.
00:53:38.000 You know, that's what people describe like a really good pool player.
00:53:41.000 But I feel that pool in a lot of ways is a lot like jujitsu because it's a lot about managing your nerves.
00:53:48.000 It's a lot about control of your body.
00:53:50.000 It's a lot about concentration.
00:53:51.000 It's not as fast-paced, but it's pretty intense when you play high-level pool.
00:53:57.000 So to me, it's not just a game.
00:53:59.000 It's also there's a lot of exercise going on there.
00:54:01.000 There's a lot of exercise of control and composure.
00:54:05.000 And in striking the ball, in judging how hard to hit it, You literally are judging how much energy you release.
00:54:14.000 You're controlling the effort.
00:54:16.000 And it's very important because you can't hit everything full blast.
00:54:19.000 It's not like boxing where you're trying to knock somebody out in the first round.
00:54:22.000 You can just get away with all power punches.
00:54:24.000 You have to have a real good sense.
00:54:27.000 Of how lightly or how hard you need to hit that ball and you need to be able to control that ball with a level stick so you need to figure out how to drive through it level as you're coming down.
00:54:38.000 There's a lot of thinking and weirdness going on.
00:54:40.000 If you look at it like from a big picture perspective there's a philosopher called Alan Watts and he says I think he was around in the 60s or the 70s and he was saying how you'll get these wealthy people who they'll buy a huge boat and then they wonder why it doesn't make them happy and it's because Yeah.
00:55:12.000 I'm not trying too hard to get better, I'm just enjoying my skill, I'm getting pleasure from it.
00:55:17.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:55:18.000 Absolutely. 0.99
00:55:19.000 Yeah, like when you have a good role, like say you get in there with a good purple belt or something like that, someone who's real scrappy and you go at it and you're countering each other and you attack and countering each other and then you finally catch a dude with something, it's like, man, you earned that shit, you know?
00:55:33.000 There's something beautiful about pulling off a technique on an unwilling participant, you know, where you've figured out a way to bypass his defenses, and you get in, and it's And it's a fascinating game of intellect, and that's what people don't understand.
00:55:48.000 It's not just a physical thing.
00:55:49.000 There's certainly physical aspects to it, especially I feel them now because I'm just getting back into jiu-jitsu shape.
00:55:55.000 Because even if you work out, it's not the same.
00:55:58.000 The only thing that comes close is kettlebells.
00:56:00.000 There's especially a kettlebell workout called Extreme Kettlebell Cardio Workout. 0.99
00:56:04.000 This company called Dragon Door sells it, and this motherfucker puts you through hell. 0.99
00:56:09.000 I mean, it's a light kettlebell, too. 0.99
00:56:12.000 He does it with a 35-pound kettlebell. 0.98
00:56:13.000 And I would have never believed that someone could give me a good workout with a little pussy-ass 35-pound weight. 1.00
00:56:18.000 I'm like, bitch! 1.00
00:56:20.000 Like, where's the 70s, son? 1.00
00:56:21.000 Let me show you what the fuck is up. 0.98
00:56:23.000 How long is it? 0.99
00:56:24.000 Like 20 minutes?
00:56:24.000 45 minutes, man.
00:56:26.000 And by the end of 45 minutes, 45 minutes with like a minute break here and there, like in between sets, it's ruthless.
00:56:34.000 It's ruthless. 1.00
00:56:35.000 Your fucking legs want to die. 1.00
00:56:37.000 It's like they're going to break. 1.00
00:56:38.000 You feel like you're going to step and your muscles just going to fall off your leg.
00:56:42.000 Like you've ripped it all apart.
00:56:44.000 If you get through that 45 minutes with that kettlebell, congratulations, you're a beast.
00:56:47.000 Yeah, Brian, whenever we've got like a big show coming up or before our ayahuasca trip, like...
00:56:52.000 Brian's like, I've got to do my kettlebell workout in the morning because it puts you in a good mood, right?
00:56:55.000 Yeah, try to get in the right zone.
00:56:56.000 It puts those endorphins going, man.
00:56:58.000 It fires up your system.
00:57:00.000 You know, it gets your testosterone production up.
00:57:02.000 When you're doing, like, real, like, they always say that the best exercises for putting on mass are full-body exercises, like deadlifts traditionally, squats, things along those lines, where your whole body has to move as a unit.
00:57:14.000 Far more effective for putting on, like, real size and functional strength than, like, say, Just bench press or just curls or something along those lines.
00:57:21.000 You know, if you look at someone whose primary supplemental training outside jiu-jitsu is bodybuilding, you can see they just don't move right.
00:57:29.000 That's not the way the human body was designed to move through space.
00:57:33.000 They're all locked through the chest and shoulders and there's no horizontal movement in their hips.
00:57:37.000 There's only linear movement.
00:57:38.000 Because if you think about it, you're pushing like...
00:57:40.000 400 pounds on a leg press.
00:57:42.000 Your muscles and your tendons, your ligaments and your bones get used to working in a very specific direction.
00:57:47.000 There's no balance and flexibility in it.
00:57:52.000 Joe, I got a question about Aubrey when he's on here and talking about all his crazy Iboga.
00:57:56.000 I remember you and Brian were listening to him talking about Iboga and you were like, I don't ever want to do stuff like that.
00:58:01.000 When he talks about ayahuasca, is that stuff that you guys just are like, never, I never want to touch that stuff?
00:58:05.000 Oh, I would do ayahuasca in a heartbeat.
00:58:07.000 I'm not worried about ayahuasca.
00:58:09.000 Ibogaine seems, I think it would be great for someone who had real serious personality issues, substance abuse issues.
00:58:18.000 I don't have those.
00:58:20.000 Graham Hancock was talking about the iboga, and he's like, I don't want to do it again. 1.00
00:58:24.000 The closest I have to a substance abuse issue is coffee.
00:58:26.000 I love coffee.
00:58:27.000 It's a powerful drug, Joe.
00:58:28.000 I love it.
00:58:30.000 Coffee or ayahuasca?
00:58:31.000 Coffee.
00:58:32.000 It's a powerful drug.
00:58:32.000 Was it ayahuasca that somebody died the other day from?
00:58:36.000 Supposedly, yeah.
00:58:37.000 But they don't know if the ayahuasca killed him.
00:58:39.000 The shaman killed him or something.
00:58:40.000 Yeah, the shaman could have killed him.
00:58:42.000 Because the shaman buried him. 1.00
00:58:44.000 So who knows if he died during a ceremony or, you know, he might have been an asshole. 1.00
00:58:48.000 Somebody might have killed him. 1.00
00:58:49.000 You really, I don't know.
00:58:51.000 I guess that was a legit shaman, like an old school.
00:58:54.000 Yeah, he was in some movie before that.
00:58:56.000 Oh, really?
00:58:57.000 Yeah, in like a legit movie.
00:58:58.000 And then apparently this kid's dead.
00:59:00.000 I'm writing that drag off. 1.00
00:59:02.000 One guy dies.
00:59:03.000 Meanwhile, he smokes cigarettes.
00:59:04.000 Is that hilarious?
00:59:05.000 Cigarettes kill 500,000 people a year in this country alone. 1.00
00:59:09.000 He's like, well, this fucking ayahuasca killed one asshole in Peru. 1.00
00:59:13.000 Wasn't ayahuasca the drug that he said that makes you feel like you're dying the whole time? 1.00
00:59:16.000 No, no, no.
00:59:17.000 That's iboga.
00:59:18.000 Yeah, iboga. 1.00
00:59:19.000 Fuck that drug. 1.00
00:59:20.000 Yeah, fuck that drug. 1.00
00:59:21.000 I think we both said fuck that drug. 1.00
00:59:22.000 I think it's very beneficial for certain people. 1.00
00:59:26.000 I have a friend, my friend Ed, who runs a center down in Mexico.
00:59:31.000 Ed Clay is one of Lloyd Irvin's black belts.
00:59:34.000 Great guy.
00:59:35.000 And his whole life changed because of Ibogaine.
00:59:40.000 He took it and went down, and he had an issue with pain pills. 0.96
00:59:45.000 He'd got an injury, and like a lot of guys, they get injured, and the doctor will prescribe him something, especially if you fuck up your back. 0.91
00:59:51.000 It happened to someone I know very well. 0.95
00:59:53.000 Me as well.
00:59:54.000 It's a construction worker.
00:59:55.000 It's modern-day heroin.
00:59:56.000 It's no joke.
00:59:57.000 It's a strong opiate, isn't it?
00:59:58.000 It's terrifying.
00:59:59.000 It's very terrifying that it's so readily available, that doctors will prescribe it so easily, and that they're trusting you to have control.
01:00:07.000 They're giving you all these pills all at once.
01:00:09.000 It's not like you go to the doctor and every day he dispenses you a new one.
01:00:12.000 You know, he says, listen, I'll give you, you want to get on Oxycontin, I will give it to you, but you've got to come to me, I'll give you one.
01:00:18.000 No. 0.99
01:00:18.000 He gives a whole bottle of 90 fucking pills. 0.99
01:00:20.000 If you want to take four at a time, you can take four at a time. 0.99
01:00:22.000 No one's going to stop you.
01:00:24.000 So it's weird that we're...
01:00:26.000 We don't have that in London.
01:00:27.000 We don't have that readily accessible opiate prescriptions. 0.95
01:00:30.000 We have an incredibly hypocritical society, especially in Florida.
01:00:34.000 Florida, they've done documentaries on it that show Vanguard had the OxyContin Express. 0.96
01:00:42.000 It was a show dedicated just to OxyContin where they showed that Florida, they have these ridiculous laws where you...
01:00:49.000 I think they're trying to change that now, probably because of Vanguard, probably because of that OxyContin Express show.
01:00:54.000 But they have these things called pain management centers. 0.92
01:00:57.000 So say you come in and you say, hey, you know, I hurt my back and really it's fucking painful. 0.77
01:01:03.000 I can't even sleep.
01:01:04.000 And they go, okay, well, I'm going to write you a prescription for pain pills.
01:01:07.000 And then you take it and you shut that door and you open the next door in the same building.
01:01:11.000 They're connected and that's the pharmacy and they have your pain pills.
01:01:14.000 And it's all they have.
01:01:16.000 How does that continue to exist?
01:01:17.000 Because there's corruption.
01:01:18.000 And by the way, Florida is also the state that has recently come under fire for hiring police officers to pretend to be high school students to get kids to sell them pot.
01:01:29.000 They hired a 25-year-old woman who was hot. 1.00
01:01:32.000 She was attractive to make friends with a 17-year-old boy who was an honor roll student.
01:01:36.000 This kid tested negative, by the way.
01:01:38.000 Didn't have any pot in his system.
01:01:39.000 Didn't do drugs.
01:01:40.000 Didn't have a record.
01:01:42.000 Smart kid.
01:01:43.000 Just a kid.
01:01:44.000 Yeah, just a kid.
01:01:45.000 And she made friends with him and then got him to sell her weed.
01:01:48.000 And then they had him arrested.
01:01:50.000 And she coerced him.
01:01:52.000 I mean, she's 25 years old.
01:01:54.000 She's a woman, okay? 0.93
01:01:56.000 And she's dealing with a boy.
01:01:57.000 And she's attractive. 0.89
01:01:58.000 First of all, that's completely unfair.
01:02:00.000 The attractive women have a massive amount of power. 1.00
01:02:03.000 Especially over a 17-year-old boy.
01:02:04.000 especially over 17 especially an attractive attractive 25 year old woman I mean that's a real woman and he smells that a boy would smell that and the affection for that woman would be like super special so you know what's funny is sickness I don't know about you but when I was like younger like my fantasy was an older woman and the older you get it kind of switches around laughing What do you think?
01:02:26.000 Didn't you get it?
01:02:27.000 Oh, as you get older, your fantasy's a younger woman? 0.83
01:02:30.000 Yeah, so that's room for a loop.
01:02:31.000 No, I just didn't know if you were done.
01:02:34.000 I thought you were going to keep going.
01:02:35.000 I don't know sometimes.
01:02:36.000 Yeah, I know what you mean.
01:02:37.000 Yeah, that's a weird thing.
01:02:38.000 But some dudes know.
01:02:39.000 There's like the whole MILF market in porn. 0.99
01:02:41.000 Some dudes are into like those really dirty looking 40-year-olds. 0.99
01:02:44.000 Yes. 1.00
01:02:44.000 We're just fucking savage, just cock monsters, this four-year-old fucking with mascara, sweat, all that. 1.00
01:02:52.000 There's a lot of that. 1.00
01:02:53.000 There's a lot of those videos.
01:02:54.000 Dudes are into that now. 1.00
01:02:56.000 There's women who just want to get gorilla fucked. 1.00
01:02:58.000 Older women who just, they know what they want. 1.00
01:03:00.000 That's like a whole market. 0.99
01:03:02.000 Dirty milfs. 0.99
01:03:03.000 You know what's a pretty freaky market as well?
01:03:05.000 Watch this movie called Samsara recently, the sequel to Baraka.
01:03:09.000 It's a bunch of long shots with no dialogue, and they showed this It was the most bizarre thing I've ever seen, the sex doll factory.
01:03:17.000 And then they juxtaposed that shot with one of those strip clubs slash brothels in Thailand to make a point.
01:03:25.000 And it showed you just how similar the whole thing is, the sex industry.
01:03:29.000 I mean, do you know what I mean?
01:03:30.000 Selling sex dolls and selling human beings is pretty much the same thing in that case.
01:03:35.000 That's fascinating.
01:03:36.000 Yeah.
01:03:36.000 Are you guys moving to West?
01:03:39.000 No, we're staying here too.
01:03:40.000 You always talk about what you want to do with The Squad and with the podcast.
01:03:46.000 I think you said recently you feel a responsibility to take this to another level and stuff.
01:03:50.000 I was wondering what you meant by that.
01:03:52.000 Well, the only thing we're doing differently is, one, I have a new studio that I'm opening up that's closer to where I live.
01:04:01.000 Okay.
01:04:01.000 And it's a completely independent thing.
01:04:03.000 It's not connected to a comedy club, and it's got a lot of space.
01:04:06.000 So the idea is that we can have it set up the way I would like to have it set up, where, you know, have nice cameras and monitors on the wall.
01:04:14.000 But you're not getting rid of Redband, right? 0.94
01:04:15.000 No! 1.00
01:04:16.000 I've had this motherfucker with me for ten years. 1.00
01:04:18.000 I'm not going anywhere. 1.00
01:04:19.000 Wouldn't work without it.
01:04:20.000 He's...
01:04:20.000 Brian's one of my best friends.
01:04:22.000 I mean, he's not just... 0.99
01:04:23.000 I mean, he's a weird motherfucker, but he's... 1.00
01:04:25.000 You don't get... 1.00
01:04:28.000 Some weird dude who's into Hitler cats.
01:04:30.000 That's hard to find, man.
01:04:33.000 It's hard to find.
01:04:35.000 He's an important element.
01:04:37.000 So is it going to be a place where people hang out?
01:04:39.000 Brian's going to be with me this weekend, by the way. 0.96
01:04:42.000 We're going to be in Phoenix at Stand Up Live, and it's going to be fucking crazy, folks. 0.88
01:04:47.000 Joey Diaz is there. 0.83
01:04:49.000 He won't be there on Sunday, but he's there Friday and Saturday.
01:04:52.000 Ari Shaffir is going to be there on Friday. 1.00
01:04:54.000 Brendan Walsh is going to be there on Saturday.
01:04:55.000 Brian's going to be there the whole week. 0.98
01:04:56.000 We're going to have a fucking blast. 0.97
01:04:58.000 We haven't been to Phoenix. 0.99
01:04:59.000 It's been a couple of years.
01:05:01.000 That's one of my favorite places like that in Texas.
01:05:03.000 It's a cool town.
01:05:03.000 Did you hear they bought the other club?
01:05:05.000 Yeah, they bought the Tempe Improv too.
01:05:06.000 Good for them.
01:05:07.000 You still get nervous when you go on stage show?
01:05:09.000 No, I get excited.
01:05:10.000 Really?
01:05:10.000 Yeah, not nervous.
01:05:11.000 I'm looking forward to doing it.
01:05:13.000 It's important, so I get excited.
01:05:15.000 I wouldn't say nervous because that implies fear.
01:05:20.000 It's not a fear thing.
01:05:21.000 It's an excitement.
01:05:23.000 You have to be heightened.
01:05:24.000 You can't go up nonchalant.
01:05:27.000 People want to be entertained.
01:05:28.000 They want to feel the intensity of the performance.
01:05:31.000 They want to feel the focus.
01:05:34.000 They want to be entertained, so you have to be up for it.
01:05:36.000 So it's an excited thing. 0.61
01:05:38.000 If I didn't do my job, though, I would feel fucking nervous. 0.93
01:05:42.000 Like if I haven't been writing and I don't know what to say, there's a weird fear that comes with trying new shit and fucking around with new bits, especially if you're not convinced. 0.98
01:05:53.000 Like sometimes I'll have a bit and I'll start out with it and I'm like, man, this bit might fucking suck. 0.98
01:06:00.000 This bit might suck. 0.98
01:06:01.000 This might have been just one of those stoned ramblings. 0.96
01:06:03.000 And then I'll do it on stage and I'll find a path and all of a sudden it becomes a monster.
01:06:08.000 It's like on stage it'll become alive and you have to take that chance sometimes.
01:06:13.000 There's two aspects to writing.
01:06:15.000 One aspect is the physical act of sitting in front of a keyboard, writing in silence by myself.
01:06:20.000 There's that for sure.
01:06:21.000 That's a very important aspect of it.
01:06:23.000 But the other aspect of it It's telling the story in front of people.
01:06:27.000 Telling the bit in front of people. 1.00
01:06:28.000 Because then the motherfucker just comes alive. 0.99
01:06:31.000 Then I know, like, I was going to say it a certain way, but in the moment I go, no, no, no, I don't need that part. 0.99
01:06:36.000 I need to edit that part out and just get right to this part.
01:06:38.000 Boom, boom! 0.98
01:06:39.000 And it's a matter of editing on stage.
01:06:42.000 It's one of the few art forms that you must have an audience to create.
01:06:47.000 You have to.
01:06:48.000 I can't create...
01:06:49.000 I can start the process on my own, but I can't create the audience without...
01:06:54.000 Any audience will do?
01:06:56.000 Well, I mean, hopefully a good one.
01:06:58.000 But I can't create the stand-up.
01:07:00.000 It can't become its full form without the crowd.
01:07:03.000 It's impossible.
01:07:04.000 You use their energy.
01:07:05.000 It's part of the equation, right?
01:07:06.000 Yeah, it's a part of...
01:07:07.000 The reaction is part of it.
01:07:09.000 The feel I get from them.
01:07:10.000 The intangibles.
01:07:12.000 Like, as I'm saying it, where I know the timing lies and...
01:07:16.000 It would be impossible to describe.
01:07:19.000 It's such a specialized skill.
01:07:21.000 It's a weird skill.
01:07:22.000 It's not what everybody thinks it is, man.
01:07:26.000 It's not just you're saying things and people are considering what you're saying and they're laughing.
01:07:31.000 Ha ha ha. 0.94
01:07:31.000 There's a little bit of that, but there's also some weird fucking connection, some hypnosis thing that's going on. 0.94
01:07:37.000 Between the audience and you. 0.96
01:07:38.000 Yeah, and as an audience member, I feel it as well.
01:07:41.000 Like when I watch someone who I think is really hilarious, like when I saw Stanhope recently or when I saw Joey Diaz the other day, like when someone is really killing and you're locked into their bit, there's this weird sort of connection.
01:07:56.000 And as a performer, you feel that. 0.90
01:07:59.000 And when you're coming up with new shit, it's like you've... 0.98
01:08:01.000 You feel where it goes. 0.99
01:08:02.000 And you also feel when you're faking it.
01:08:04.000 You feel when it's forced.
01:08:05.000 You feel like all these...
01:08:06.000 And you know what they feel.
01:08:08.000 You know what the audience feels.
01:08:09.000 It's like you're conducting this...
01:08:10.000 So it's pure.
01:08:10.000 It's really a pure art form.
01:08:11.000 It's a fucking weird art form. 0.99
01:08:13.000 It's really hard. 0.99
01:08:14.000 I took a comedy course and I did five minutes in London.
01:08:17.000 So it was trippy.
01:08:18.000 I know a lot of people hate on comedy courses.
01:08:20.000 I know Marin hates on comedy courses. 1.00
01:08:21.000 He shouldn't.
01:08:22.000 No one should, because it gets people in the door.
01:08:24.000 And it gets them out of their shell, right?
01:08:26.000 Yeah, if you don't know anything about stand-up, if you're not a stand-up comedian, why not take a course to force yourself on stage?
01:08:34.000 The real problem with courses is a lot of them are run by... 1.00
01:08:37.000 Losers. 1.00
01:08:38.000 Okay. 1.00
01:08:38.000 That's the problem. 1.00
01:08:39.000 But do you need a funny guy to teach you or do you need the guy really to get you on stage and then so you can learn yourself? 0.99
01:08:43.000 You're not going to get real comedy advice from somebody who sucks. 0.84
01:08:48.000 Yeah, I don't think it's something you can really teach though, right? 0.99
01:08:49.000 They can't do it.
01:08:50.000 right?
01:08:51.000 Yeah, there was a bunch of people that wrote books on comedy.
01:08:53.000 And they were like, you know, I remember as a young professional, when I just started getting paid to do gigs, people would just laugh at these books, but how horrible the comic who actually wrote the book was.
01:09:03.000 But what a book does do, even though I agree with that in certain ways, it does get you interested in the conversation. 0.73
01:09:10.000 It does like you might like go to the bookstore and say how to be a stand up comic, man, I need to fucking find a book on how to be a comic.
01:09:17.000 And then that book might be step one. 0.94
01:09:19.000 Taking a class might be step two.
01:09:21.000 Ten years from now, you might be Marc Maron.
01:09:24.000 You might be a Marc Maron.
01:09:25.000 You might be a real professional comedian.
01:09:28.000 It's just a matter of taking those steps. 0.99
01:09:30.000 And so the good thing that a comedy class does is it allows you to fuck around and get on stage and see if this is something you're actually interested in. 0.97
01:09:38.000 And just think about the process of it. 1.00
01:09:41.000 And by the way, when you're in a bad comedy class listening to idiots tell you how to do it, you might be like, this guy's an idiot. 1.00
01:09:46.000 And that might help your comedy. 1.00
01:09:48.000 That might help you understand that there's a lot of people out there that do it terrible.
01:09:51.000 Don't do what this guy's doing.
01:09:53.000 Don't hack it up up there.
01:09:54.000 Don't make it so obvious.
01:09:55.000 Don't insult me as a person who's watching.
01:09:58.000 You might feel insulted, and that actually might benefit you in an educational sort of a way. 0.94
01:10:02.000 We just got up and sucked every week in front of these people.
01:10:04.000 And we all bonded at the end. 0.97
01:10:06.000 It was like these 12 strangers.
01:10:07.000 And it's like, if you can't make 12 random people in London laugh, then most likely you're not going to make a comedy audience laugh.
01:10:13.000 And we just got up there.
01:10:14.000 It would just suck.
01:10:15.000 Oh, by the way, tomorrow night we have a show here.
01:10:17.000 We have a show here at the Ice House.
01:10:20.000 Joey Diaz and I were on the phone today.
01:10:22.000 He's like, what are we doing tomorrow, dog?
01:10:24.000 And I go, what do you want to do? 0.99
01:10:24.000 He's like, we gotta do a fucking show. 0.99
01:10:26.000 We gotta do a fucking show. 1.00
01:10:27.000 We can't come in cold to Phoenix. 1.00
01:10:29.000 He's like, we're not coming in cold to Phoenix, dog. 1.00
01:10:31.000 We gotta give these motherfuckers at the Ice House a show. 1.00
01:10:33.000 So I said, alright, alright, we're gonna do a show. 1.00
01:10:35.000 Settle down.
01:10:36.000 Is it like breathing for you guys?
01:10:37.000 You guys gotta be on stage?
01:10:39.000 Weekly?
01:10:40.000 Well, Joey is, you know, Joey is a guy who, no matter what, Joey's always doing three, four sets a week.
01:10:46.000 He's always hopping around, doing it.
01:10:48.000 He loves it.
01:10:48.000 It's one of the reasons why he's so good, so comfortable and natural up there.
01:10:52.000 And it's just also what he loves.
01:10:54.000 He's a real stand-up, you know?
01:10:56.000 He's...
01:10:57.000 He's a black belt in stand-up comedy.
01:10:59.000 He loves it.
01:10:59.000 He loves it.
01:11:00.000 It's the same thing.
01:11:01.000 So for him, he knows that we're going to have these huge crowds.
01:11:04.000 Phoenix, the club, is like 600 seats.
01:11:07.000 And it's almost sold out.
01:11:09.000 So it's going to be nuts.
01:11:10.000 Two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, and one show on Sunday. 0.96
01:11:13.000 So Joey's just fucking ramping up right now. 0.99
01:11:15.000 He's fucking shadowboxing in his house. 0.99
01:11:17.000 We invited him on London Real, but then he told us he doesn't have a passport. 0.99
01:11:21.000 Can't go to London. 0.99
01:11:22.000 Damn. 1.00
01:11:22.000 Yeah, that sucks. 1.00
01:11:24.000 That's too bad because that would be awesome to have him on. 0.97
01:11:27.000 It would, yeah, you guys could experience the love.
01:11:30.000 Can you tell as someone who's like, you're like a black belt in STEM comedy as well, so can you tell when you meet your, when you meet a new colleague or peer, can you tell if they're a natural person?
01:11:41.000 Or if they're someone who had average talent and really polished it to a high degree. 0.97
01:11:45.000 You can tell if they're a douchebag. 1.00
01:11:47.000 And if they're a douchebag, they're probably not going to be that good. 0.99
01:11:50.000 There's something about them that's going to be fake. 0.97
01:11:52.000 They're going to be clunky.
01:11:53.000 And then some people you meet and they're just so open.
01:11:57.000 And you're like, whoa, I've got to see what this guy does on stage.
01:11:59.000 You know what I mean? 1.00
01:12:00.000 Like some people, you meet them and they're just really there and centered and engaging you and you're like, oh, this is a sharp motherfucker. 0.99
01:12:07.000 Like what's going on with this guy? 0.99
01:12:07.000 When he's talking to you. 0.99
01:12:08.000 Yeah.
01:12:08.000 Okay.
01:12:09.000 You know, and then there's other guys that are like really quiet and then they get on stage and they're a motherfucker. 1.00
01:12:14.000 You know, you never know. 0.99
01:12:15.000 It's people's personalities are strange.
01:12:18.000 There's some people that are completely different on stage than they are off stage.
01:12:20.000 It's weird. 0.72
01:12:22.000 Some people, they're really fucking funny on stage. 0.97
01:12:25.000 And then off stage, they're just kind of quiet and reserved. 0.96
01:12:29.000 It's very strange.
01:12:30.000 They get it all out in their onstage antics.
01:12:34.000 There's that too.
01:12:35.000 There's a lot of different types of comedy. 0.97
01:12:37.000 The most taxing and exhausting is the always-on fucking one-liner guy who's always trying to say the next funny thing. 0.96
01:12:45.000 It's too much. 0.98
01:12:46.000 But you guys do crack jokes when you guys are hanging out.
01:12:48.000 Yeah, but only the ones that work.
01:12:50.000 Okay.
01:12:50.000 See, you gotta know...
01:12:53.000 It's the same thing we were talking about being a black belt.
01:12:56.000 You've got to know what is actually funny.
01:12:58.000 And you've got to know what is just annoying to listen to.
01:13:01.000 What is just you jerking off into the wind and what is actually something that's relevant.
01:13:07.000 Something relevant to bring up.
01:13:10.000 Something that you're actually contributing to the conversation.
01:13:14.000 One of the things that Brian is really good at, and I want to encourage this, but I have to give him his props, he'll say some shit that I would have never fucking thought up, and I would have never said, and he'll interject them in weird spots, and it's just like, it takes the conversation.
01:13:28.000 Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
01:13:30.000 But it takes it to a place that you probably would have never gone on your own.
01:13:34.000 And that's what's fun in having a conversation. 0.93
01:13:38.000 What's fun in having a conversation and what's fun in watching a stand-up comedian is someone who can take shit to places where you might not have gone, but they're relevant places. 0.97
01:13:51.000 So it's like you allow them to think for you for a brief moment. 0.98
01:13:55.000 You know, you allow them.
01:13:56.000 And when someone's... 1.00
01:13:57.000 When they're awkward and clunky, you know, like, you can't think for me, stupid. 1.00
01:14:01.000 Like, what are you doing here? 1.00
01:14:02.000 You're bullshitting me.
01:14:03.000 So you tune them out?
01:14:03.000 Yeah, it's immediate.
01:14:04.000 It's like...
01:14:05.000 So when you say that someone's exhausting because they're always yuck-yucking it up, like, they don't understand how they're being perceived.
01:14:12.000 There's a disconnect between what they're projecting and what they're imagining they're projecting or how they're being received and how they're imagining they're being received.
01:14:21.000 There's a disconnect there.
01:14:22.000 And that's... 0.89
01:14:24.000 Just like the karate guy who still thinks he's a master and he's got a gut now but he wants everybody to be terrified of him and he really does believe somewhere in the back of his head that he can fucking handle multiple attackers. 0.99
01:14:35.000 You know, he's bullshitting. 0.92
01:14:36.000 Yeah, that's the scariest thing in life is when you're confronted with, when your delusions are shown to you, you know what I mean? 0.89
01:14:42.000 You think you're the Mac and then you just get destroyed in something. 0.99
01:14:44.000 That's why I told you not to eat that cookie this motherfucker was trying to give you. 1.00
01:14:47.000 Yeah, no cookies. 1.00
01:14:48.000 You don't want to fuck with these edibles, man. 0.99
01:14:50.000 Edibles will put you in a bad place. 1.00
01:14:54.000 You're ready for it.
01:14:55.000 It's very confronting, you know? 1.00
01:14:56.000 It just confronts you with all the weird shit that you've been pushing to the back of your head. 0.99
01:15:02.000 Sounds like ayahuasca a bit. 0.98
01:15:03.000 Well, have you ever seen the information on the difference between consuming marijuana?
01:15:12.000 Cannabinoids change on the first pass through the liver, right?
01:15:14.000 Yeah, the first pass through the liver becomes 11-hydroxymetabolite, which is this intense psychedelic drug, which is five times more psychoactive than THC. So for a portion of marijuana, like say...
01:15:26.000 What's in a pot brownie, just if you smoked it, would fucking get you high as shit. 0.99
01:15:31.000 But if you eat it, it's almost uncomfortable. 0.99
01:15:34.000 It's so self-examinatory and so intensely probing to all aspects of your fears and unconscious thoughts.
01:15:45.000 But you do it on a plane.
01:15:46.000 Yeah, I do it all the time.
01:15:47.000 You know what?
01:15:48.000 I was in LA about five years ago and someone gave me a brownie.
01:15:52.000 I'd never had one before.
01:15:53.000 And he picked me up in the morning and said, this is for you.
01:15:56.000 We were on our way to Universal Studios, which I'd never been to before.
01:15:58.000 So I ate this thing on an empty stomach and I got really paranoid and I chickened out on the Shrek ride, man.
01:16:05.000 Like, I literally, I lost it.
01:16:06.000 I said, I gotta get out of here.
01:16:07.000 There were all these mirrors on the walls, wailing.
01:16:10.000 That's a good quote. 1.00
01:16:10.000 Oh, fucking Shrek rap. 1.00
01:16:12.000 Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt, scared of Shrek rap. 1.00
01:16:15.000 That's a new meme now.
01:16:17.000 That's a meme on the Rogan board.
01:16:19.000 Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt, scared of Shrek rap.
01:16:27.000 Yeah, man. 1.00
01:16:28.000 Weed's a motherfucker, son. 1.00
01:16:29.000 That's a tough thing, man. 1.00
01:16:30.000 A lot of people say it makes you paranoid, and I believe that a certain amount of paranoia is very important.
01:16:35.000 I really think it's not paranoia.
01:16:37.000 I think it's just...
01:16:38.000 Is that me?
01:16:39.000 How dare you.
01:16:40.000 That ringtone.
01:16:41.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00
01:16:41.000 I don't change ringtones, bitch. 1.00
01:16:43.000 I don't want to hear your music either. 1.00
01:16:45.000 If you're one of those dudes that's got some fucking latest... 0.97
01:16:48.000 Does Green Day have a latest song? 0.99
01:16:50.000 They must.
01:16:50.000 I have a badass ringtone.
01:16:52.000 I bet you do, you sexy bitch. 1.00
01:16:54.000 What was I saying? 1.00
01:16:56.000 The fuck were we talking about? 0.99
01:16:57.000 Dude, I don't know, but I've got to drop some financial science on you. 0.99
01:17:00.000 I had a point, though.
01:17:02.000 Dude, are you playing your ringtone? 1.00
01:17:04.000 Kill that. 1.00
01:17:04.000 That's kind of cool. 1.00
01:17:05.000 If you forgot that it certainly wasn't worth talking about. 0.99
01:17:07.000 I was talking too much shit, obviously. 0.98
01:17:10.000 Alright, so am I dropping some science here? 1.00
01:17:12.000 Yeah, sure.
01:17:12.000 Derivative science?
01:17:13.000 Yeah, I've got to drop a little bit.
01:17:15.000 So I know you're always talking about the crazy derivatives and how there's too many of them out there and it's betting on fake stuff. 1.00
01:17:20.000 Well, what I talk about is that I really am a fucking idiot. 1.00
01:17:24.000 I don't really understand it. 1.00
01:17:25.000 So if I'm saying it, I'm just repeating some shit I heard online. 0.98
01:17:28.000 Fair enough. 0.97
01:17:30.000 So I'll just, like, real break it down.
01:17:32.000 Like, the oldest form of derivative is, like, it's like what the Egyptians used to do when they used to, like, grow some cotton.
01:17:37.000 And, like, they'd know that they'd, like, sell it for a future price.
01:17:40.000 And if they got a certain price, they would plant the crops.
01:17:42.000 And if they didn't, then they wouldn't.
01:17:44.000 So that was, like, the oldest form.
01:17:45.000 And then it kind of got crazy with those credit derivatives and stuff.
01:17:49.000 It's more just like technology is the way I look at it.
01:17:51.000 Like an iPad you could say is bad if you like load porn on it and give it to an eight-year-old but in theory it's not bad stuff.
01:17:58.000 The problem is when it gets a little unregulated and crazy.
01:18:01.000 Well, I see your point, and I think that what you're saying is probably correct, but I think that if you want to have a fair society and a society that makes sense, I don't think you can have things.
01:18:16.000 When it comes to money and finances, I don't think you can have things that can be manipulated in any way, shape, or form.
01:18:22.000 Or things that are based at all on confidence or perceptions of how something is doing.
01:18:28.000 So when I look at the stock, Apple's down. 0.96
01:18:30.000 You know, the iPhone has not been perceived as the fucking hit that we thought it was. 0.95
01:18:33.000 Apple stock is down. 0.98
01:18:34.000 What are you even saying? 0.99
01:18:36.000 What the fuck are you even saying? 0.99
01:18:38.000 What kind of crazy world do we live in where there's people, the regular people, who are gambling for and against a company Falling apart, are doing well, and that's a part of our society, and that's a part of our economy. 1.00
01:18:53.000 That's crazy.
01:18:54.000 But every time you buy something, you're kind of gambling.
01:18:55.000 When you buy your house and wherever you live, you actually are thinking it'll probably be a good investment as opposed to if you bought a house and Sure, if I was saying that you should never gamble, that would make sense.
01:19:08.000 But that's not what I'm saying. 0.93
01:19:09.000 What I'm saying is you can't gamble on shit that you're not even a part of and that can't be a giant part of the economy. 0.96
01:19:17.000 When you're buying stock and selling stock and trading stock, And things are going up and down. 0.98
01:19:22.000 The Dow is down seven points today. 0.99
01:19:25.000 What the fuck are you even talking about? 1.00
01:19:27.000 You've got a shit system. 1.00
01:19:29.000 If the Dow is down, if it's that fluctuating up and down based on some stupid fucking bill that gets passed or Iran's been rattling their sabers, the Dow is down! 1.00
01:19:42.000 You know, that's a nonsense system. 1.00
01:19:44.000 But humans are all about confidence, right?
01:19:46.000 Sure, but our economy shouldn't be based on such a weird, ethereal sort of a feeling.
01:19:53.000 Like the idea that, you know, whether or not people believe that Apple's on the ride.
01:19:56.000 What about Blackberry? 0.98
01:19:57.000 Why the fuck are Blackberry now? 0.99
01:19:59.000 They were on top of the world at one point in time! 0.99
01:20:01.000 So it just seems like nonsense. 0.69
01:20:02.000 One piece of gold should equal one donkey.
01:20:05.000 Until we figure out how to have...
01:20:09.000 What was the guy's name?
01:20:11.000 Jacque Fresco?
01:20:12.000 He talks about resource-based economies.
01:20:14.000 That's the only thing that makes sense.
01:20:16.000 Economies based on numbers and derivatives and finances and stocks and bonds.
01:20:22.000 What are you even saying?
01:20:23.000 I just don't know how we're going to get there without having a complete bloodbath.
01:20:27.000 How are we going to get to a better version of government without a complete bloodbath?
01:20:30.000 You always say the internet, and that's the only option we have right now, right?
01:20:34.000 I think the internet is eventually going to be the governing of the world.
01:20:40.000 It's going to lead to the governing of the world through the people.
01:20:43.000 I think it's only inevitable.
01:20:44.000 as long as people continue to have more and more access to information and more and more power to distribute that information like we do right now.
01:20:54.000 And that's one of the scariest things about these tightening up bills.
01:20:57.000 When they're trying to stop, they're passing these cyberterrorism bills and this sweeping legislation that allows the government to come in and shut down websites and deem enemies of the state.
01:21:08.000 Like WikiLeaks is an enemy of the state now.
01:21:10.000 Julian Assange is deemed an enemy of the state.
01:21:14.000 They've decided he's as bad as Al-Qaeda.
01:21:16.000 Meanwhile, all he's done is tell the truth. 1.00
01:21:19.000 All he's done is distribute information that the government didn't want distributed, so they've decided that this guy is a fucking terrorist. 1.00
01:21:23.000 Are you going to vote? 1.00
01:21:24.000 That's serious. 0.54
01:21:25.000 I think it's nonsense.
01:21:26.000 I mean, as I get older, I think it's more and more nonsense. 0.99
01:21:29.000 It's a silly system. 0.96
01:21:31.000 If Gary Johnson can't debate, okay, what you got is you got a rigged system. 0.99
01:21:36.000 You got a giant, crazy, rigged, fake system. 1.00
01:21:39.000 And if I pretend that I'm a part of this stupid electoral college, And hop on board. 1.00
01:21:45.000 It's nonsense. 1.00
01:21:45.000 The college is still crazy, right? 1.00
01:21:47.000 Every aspect of it is nuts. 1.00
01:21:49.000 Lobbyists are nuts. 0.96
01:21:50.000 The ability to donate, corporations' ability to donate limitless amounts of money. 1.00
01:21:55.000 That's nuts.
01:21:56.000 That's just this term.
01:21:57.000 The latest super PACs and all that.
01:21:58.000 That's nuts. 0.99
01:21:59.000 It's fucking crazy. 1.00
01:21:59.000 It's weird watching it from London. 1.00
01:22:00.000 It's really weird.
01:22:02.000 It seems like a big joke with Romney.
01:22:03.000 It is a big joke.
01:22:05.000 My sister liked Romney on Facebook last night, Joe.
01:22:09.000 Good for her.
01:22:11.000 He seems like a nice guy.
01:22:12.000 I like him, too.
01:22:13.000 Doesn't mean I would vote for him.
01:22:14.000 And even if you vote for him, I think it's been pretty obvious with Obama that it's not that easy. 0.67
01:22:20.000 And what Obama's done, everybody thought that Obama was going to be this great savior of this country and is going to I remember this woman who was all happy when he won, and now I know that my mortgage is going to be paid, and now I know that I was listening to her say this, and I was like, whoa, you want to talk about some high expectations for someone who's going to come in and you think he's going to fix this incredibly fucking entangled, corrupt system? 0.80
01:22:44.000 Not only did he not fix it, but he let some shit get passed that I would have never thought that the National Defense Authorization Act Which allows the military to break up civil dissent. 0.68
01:22:55.000 It allows the military to be used on U.S. civilians. 0.89
01:22:57.000 It allows people to be held without authorization.
01:23:00.000 It allows, rather, without representation, without any recourse.
01:23:05.000 You can't have a trial.
01:23:06.000 They can just hold you indefinitely as long as they want.
01:23:08.000 It's terrifying, man.
01:23:08.000 It's terrifying.
01:23:09.000 It's terrifying that they would ask for that.
01:23:11.000 Here's why.
01:23:12.000 It's not like things have gone horribly bad in this country.
01:23:15.000 It's not like there's riots in the streets every day and people are assassinating government leaders and there's bombs blowing up in buildings everywhere.
01:23:23.000 And we have resorted to some sort of arcane law that we're going to have to put into place until we can calm things down.
01:23:29.000 We've got to control.
01:23:30.000 No, it's not that big.
01:23:31.000 Walk down the street in Pasadena.
01:23:33.000 It's beautiful out here, man.
01:23:34.000 Get on the highway.
01:23:35.000 There's a few too many cars.
01:23:36.000 People are civil.
01:23:37.000 You've got hours and hours of bumper-to-bumper traffic, and the worst thing is somebody might blow the horn or stick a finger out at somebody.
01:23:42.000 No one's cutting people's heads off with swords.
01:23:44.000 It's not necessary to pass these crazy Orwellian laws.
01:23:49.000 But what it makes me think is that they can see the writing on the wall, and they know that this form of running governments It's no longer valid.
01:23:58.000 It doesn't work. 0.98
01:23:59.000 It's ridiculous. 0.86
01:23:59.000 We understand your influence. 0.86
01:24:02.000 We understand why you're making these decisions.
01:24:03.000 We see where the money comes from now.
01:24:05.000 It's all readily available.
01:24:06.000 It's not like we're living in 1930, and I have to read the Hearst newspapers to find out what the information is going to be about this upcoming election.
01:24:15.000 You can find out anything about anybody.
01:24:17.000 It's really different now.
01:24:19.000 And it's not saying that we don't need a government.
01:24:21.000 We certainly need a government.
01:24:22.000 It's not saying we shouldn't have corporations.
01:24:24.000 Of course we should have corporations.
01:24:26.000 There's a lot of corporations that I think are great.
01:24:27.000 I think Apple's great.
01:24:28.000 I think Porsche's great.
01:24:29.000 I like their products.
01:24:31.000 You know what I mean?
01:24:32.000 There's nothing wrong with that.
01:24:33.000 It's just we can't allow companies.
01:24:36.000 Money to supersede humanity.
01:24:39.000 And that's what they've done.
01:24:40.000 They've allowed the idea of doing their stockholders justice and making as much money as possible, they've allowed that to supersede humanity.
01:24:49.000 And when you have businesses where their entire function is to supersede humanity, you can see that, and you can measure that, that we need to stop that.
01:24:58.000 That needs to be closed down. 0.98
01:24:59.000 They've got to stop it for themselves because they're all having fucking horrible karma from that. 0.99
01:25:04.000 Yeah, that's got to be bad karma. 0.99
01:25:06.000 It's terrible, man.
01:25:07.000 Have you thought about having politicians on the show?
01:25:09.000 We've had a few.
01:25:10.000 We've had a young kid, David Seaman.
01:25:13.000 He's coming back again in a couple of weeks.
01:25:14.000 Would politicians want to come on your show? 0.68
01:25:15.000 No, why would they want to?
01:25:16.000 Maybe Gary Johnson would.
01:25:17.000 But he's legit.
01:25:20.000 I spoke to Ron Paul.
01:25:21.000 I had a chance to speak to him on The Tonight Show. 0.55
01:25:23.000 I never asked him to come on the podcast because I thought it would be ridiculous.
01:25:26.000 Seaman's coming on you again?
01:25:27.000 Yeah, he's coming on again.
01:25:29.000 What, you have a problem with that?
01:25:31.000 No, I said Siemens coming on you again.
01:25:33.000 Oh, how dare you.
01:25:35.000 See? 1.00
01:25:36.000 Fucking child. 1.00
01:25:36.000 It's good, though. 1.00
01:25:37.000 There you go.
01:25:37.000 That's what you're talking about.
01:25:38.000 Exactly.
01:25:38.000 Like the needle off the record.
01:25:39.000 This is my man-child, barking out in the distance.
01:25:42.000 But you've created a joke.
01:25:43.000 So this is our one-year anniversary, pretty much, since we started this show.
01:25:46.000 And, I mean, obviously it was...
01:25:48.000 It was pretty much after watching your show.
01:25:50.000 I mean, the split screen was pretty much an ode to when you used to shoot it, I think, at your house, right?
01:25:54.000 Yeah.
01:25:54.000 Well, we started doing it because of Anthony Cumia, really.
01:25:58.000 He was the big push.
01:26:00.000 I mean, when we went to the Opie and Anthony show, and Anthony has a show called Live from the Compound. 0.99
01:26:06.000 He actually has a fucking sick setup. 0.96
01:26:09.000 He has a green screen and a broadcast desk and really high-end microphones. 1.00
01:26:13.000 And him and his buddies would get drunk and do a show.
01:26:16.000 And we were like, me and Brian were like, that looks fun.
01:26:18.000 Was it video as well?
01:26:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:26:20.000 So we started doing it.
01:26:21.000 It'll be three years for us in December.
01:26:23.000 We started doing it just on a Ustream on a laptop.
01:26:27.000 And you guys were on sofas, right?
01:26:28.000 Yeah, we were in my house.
01:26:29.000 Just chilling in my house.
01:26:30.000 We were bored.
01:26:32.000 Well, you infected us over in London, you know?
01:26:34.000 Well, you know, like I said, we were infected first.
01:26:37.000 Yeah, Brian and I, we've come up with this idea called Global Real, and we want to facilitate the setting up of like similar things, Learn Real, in every major city in the world.
01:26:46.000 Or anybody who wants to just do a podcast.
01:26:48.000 And we talked to some guys actually in Victoria, British Columbia, there's a guy over there, Eric Faust, and we talked to him recently on Skype, and he's like, I want to do a podcast.
01:26:54.000 I'm like, just do it.
01:26:55.000 You know, if you want some help, let's do it.
01:26:56.000 And he's like, I want to call it Victoria Reel with your permission.
01:26:59.000 And I was like, dude, we don't know the name.
01:27:02.000 As long as it's not another London Reel, you're good, right?
01:27:05.000 You don't have to bust those things up, right?
01:27:08.000 There can't be enough podcasts, right?
01:27:10.000 No, I don't.
01:27:10.000 Yeah, you know, there's a lot of people that feel like the other people that are doing podcasts are somehow or another the competition.
01:27:17.000 I don't feel that at all.
01:27:19.000 I never have. 0.78
01:27:20.000 I feel like there's 300 million fucking human beings just in this country and hundreds of millions worldwide that also listen to anything English. 0.87
01:27:29.000 I think there's a huge audience for everybody, and I don't think that it has to be Us against them. 0.95
01:27:34.000 I'm inspired by other comedians just like I'm inspired by other podcasts.
01:27:38.000 But I'm a big believer in the way to be successful and the way to feel good is to help other people.
01:27:48.000 To help other people do things.
01:27:49.000 Abundance mentality though.
01:27:51.000 Yeah.
01:27:51.000 Like that's one of the first signs of an enlightened human being is he knows there's enough for everyone.
01:27:55.000 He doesn't have to like Claw and scrape and say, this is mine.
01:27:58.000 Once you start sending that energy out into the universe, your experience becomes very, very different.
01:28:03.000 I think my stand-up comedy, all of it has benefited from that.
01:28:08.000 My life has benefited from it.
01:28:09.000 I think you have to be a generous person.
01:28:12.000 I'll regularly go to a coffee shop and leave a $100 tip.
01:28:16.000 I think you've got to do that.
01:28:18.000 I leave little happiness bombs.
01:28:21.000 I always joke about it.
01:28:22.000 My friend Duncan and I ate at this barbecue place.
01:28:26.000 And, you know, I tipped the waiter a hundred bucks, and he didn't even know it, but we laughed.
01:28:30.000 Thanks, bye.
01:28:31.000 And I get out of there.
01:28:32.000 I love the fact that the dude's going to open up the thing and see a hundred bucks. 0.99
01:28:35.000 Motherfucker just gave me a hundred bucks. 1.00
01:28:37.000 And you're gone, right? 1.00
01:28:38.000 Yeah, and I'm gone.
01:28:38.000 It's a little happiness bomb.
01:28:40.000 And I think that that sort of mentality, I've also put that to stand up.
01:28:46.000 And all of us would do that.
01:28:48.000 Ari does that. 1.00
01:28:49.000 Duncan does that.
01:28:50.000 Brian does that.
01:28:51.000 Joey Diaz does that.
01:28:52.000 We're the first guys to tell you about someone that we...
01:29:00.000 Yeah, I think so, man.
01:29:05.000 There's a lot of comics who bring guys on the road with them that are terrible so they don't show them up.
01:29:10.000 I've always been of the mindset that I should bring the funniest human beings that are available so that the show is better and it makes me laugh.
01:29:20.000 It's not going to make me less funny.
01:29:22.000 That idea is crazy to me.
01:29:25.000 There's a lot of people that actually want the person who's on in front of them to not be funny.
01:29:29.000 Because then it makes them look better.
01:29:31.000 That's the worst way of thinking ever.
01:29:35.000 Because your sense of what is funny or what's funny about you is so delicate that no one else can also be funny.
01:29:41.000 That's crazy. 0.96
01:29:43.000 Sometimes you're funny, but you're only funny if someone before you sucks? 0.99
01:29:46.000 That doesn't even make sense. 0.98
01:29:47.000 It's the same thing.
01:29:48.000 It's a lack of that abundance mentality and a lack of the real idea that human beings are inexorably connected.
01:29:57.000 That we're connected by energy and that we're connected by intent.
01:30:01.000 We're connected by the thoughts that we put out there and the thoughts that we receive from other people.
01:30:08.000 It's not this woo-woo thing.
01:30:12.000 This is a real exchange of energy.
01:30:14.000 It's real.
01:30:14.000 I've been impressed by the power of a conversation.
01:30:17.000 We get on the air once a week.
01:30:19.000 We have an hour conversation with someone who we think is important.
01:30:22.000 And that's why we put them in the center of the screen.
01:30:23.000 We want to feature these people to the world, whether it's Simon Powell with his psilocybin solution or an MMA fighter or somebody.
01:30:30.000 And it's like, check this dude out.
01:30:32.000 It's had a big effect on me.
01:30:33.000 I mean, I've grown so much as a person this last year.
01:30:36.000 It's probably been the best year of my life, and this is like 10 years of financial markets and making money and doing this, but like this last year, I've changed the most. 0.98
01:30:43.000 I fucking drank ayahuasca. 0.89
01:30:45.000 Two years ago, I would have been the dude that glazes over when you talk about psychedelics. 1.00
01:30:48.000 I'm like, oh, you're one of those fucks. 0.99
01:30:50.000 And now I'm doing it, and I treat people differently. 1.00
01:30:53.000 What made you have an altering of that idea?
01:30:58.000 I walked away from that job because I don't know.
01:31:00.000 I think a lot of times, as young males, we're sold this capitalist promise where you go to school, you make the money, you get the girl, you have the car, and you're happy.
01:31:09.000 And a lot of our viewers, I think, are the same way.
01:31:11.000 They're like these guys in their mid-20s.
01:31:13.000 I think they're playing the game, and they're like, okay, then where are all my rewards?
01:31:16.000 And they're like, I'm not happy with this anymore.
01:31:18.000 And I think I got there.
01:31:19.000 I was doing this day-in, day-out job, and it was quote-unquote successful, and I had all the trappings, and then I was just like, I wasn't happy.
01:31:26.000 So I just walked away from it, scared as hell, with nothing to do.
01:31:30.000 Beautiful.
01:31:30.000 That's a beautiful story.
01:31:32.000 Yeah, and then for six months, I was literally not doing much, and Nick and I would meet in the West End, And walk around London for like three hours and I was listening to your podcast and we'd walk and we'd talk about philosophy and women and finance and perspectives and at the end I'd be like, Nick, that would have made a fucking good podcast.
01:31:48.000 If we had just recorded it, you know?
01:31:50.000 And then Nick's like, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it.
01:31:52.000 And then I arrived at Brian's house, I thought it was just going to be us talking into...
01:31:58.000 GarageBand and Brian set up this huge studio and there's a microphone in my face.
01:32:02.000 That's awesome.
01:32:03.000 Yeah, it was cool.
01:32:03.000 And we got the cameras.
01:32:04.000 I thought the video was super important because I've listened to audio podcasts before, but you need to see guys' faces. 0.98
01:32:09.000 And I always say for our guests, people need to see at least the first five minutes because they need to see if they're a cunt or not. 1.00
01:32:15.000 If they're a douche. 0.99
01:32:16.000 And you can tell after five minutes of looking at someone, I think you can say, okay, I like this guy's vibe.
01:32:20.000 And then you can listen if you want.
01:32:22.000 You can tell from listening, too.
01:32:23.000 You know, I was listening to the Opie and Anthony show and there was a guy on.
01:32:26.000 I was like, man... 1.00
01:32:28.000 This guy sounds like a cunt to me. 1.00
01:32:30.000 They're being nice to the guy, but I'm like, this guy sounds like a douchebag. 1.00
01:32:32.000 So I asked a friend who knew him. 1.00
01:32:34.000 He goes, oh, he's a piece of shit. 1.00
01:32:35.000 I go, oh, thank you. 1.00
01:32:36.000 I go, because I was like, this guy is playing these guys.
01:32:39.000 I was like, there's something about this guy that is so disingenuous. 1.00
01:32:43.000 And as soon as I asked my friend who knew him, I was like, oh, he's a piece of shit. 1.00
01:32:46.000 I fucking hate that guy. 1.00
01:32:46.000 I was like, thank you. 1.00
01:32:48.000 Just by listening?
01:32:49.000 Yeah, just by listening, man.
01:32:50.000 But I agree with you about the video, but the reality is the majority of our listeners are audio only.
01:32:57.000 More than 70%, I think.
01:32:59.000 Way more than that.
01:33:00.000 Is it really?
01:33:00.000 Probably like 90%.
01:33:01.000 Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
01:33:02.000 We have a big, but I say it was more like 60%, I'd say.
01:33:04.000 Well, between Stitcher, which is...
01:33:06.000 Are you guys on Stitcher?
01:33:07.000 Yeah, we're on Stitcher.
01:33:08.000 I love Stitcher.
01:33:08.000 I really like that, yeah.
01:33:09.000 It's a cool service.
01:33:10.000 Don't tell Bill Burr.
01:33:12.000 Stitcher is one great way that we're distributed through smartphones, but now there's the...
01:33:18.000 You know, the iPhone app on the new iPhones, they have a podcast app.
01:33:21.000 And we have our own podcast app.
01:33:23.000 You can find the Joe Rogan Experience podcast app.
01:33:25.000 It's free.
01:33:26.000 But the audio version is where people, like, listen to it on the train or in their car or at the gym or whatever.
01:33:32.000 I think that's much more prevalent. 0.98
01:33:35.000 Very few assholes are sitting in front of their computer watching. 0.98
01:33:38.000 I usually watch the first few minutes just to take a look at the guests and then I switch to audio. 0.99
01:33:42.000 We got GIFs, by the way.
01:33:44.000 Might as well drop these things on you guys.
01:33:46.000 You have gifts for us?
01:33:47.000 Yeah, man.
01:33:48.000 How dare you.
01:33:48.000 I know, huh?
01:33:49.000 Hopefully you brought batteries.
01:33:50.000 That's for you.
01:33:51.000 Oh, man.
01:33:52.000 And that's for you, Red Band.
01:33:53.000 Oh, no way. 1.00
01:33:54.000 Brian, did you say that with a gay accent, you son of a bitch? 1.00
01:33:58.000 That's some crazy-ass London Real wrapping paper. 1.00
01:34:00.000 You have your own wrapping paper? 0.52
01:34:01.000 No, it's actually some posters.
01:34:02.000 I didn't have any wrapping paper at home.
01:34:03.000 We've got to get on it, son.
01:34:04.000 We've got to get wrapping paper.
01:34:05.000 But it looks kind of cool, right?
01:34:06.000 DeskWad wrapping paper for Christmas?
01:34:08.000 Come on, dude.
01:34:08.000 Yeah, you've got to put that up to the camera.
01:34:09.000 Come on, DeskWad wrapping paper?
01:34:11.000 I'm telling you. 0.98
01:34:12.000 This guy, whoever you were that came with the Higher Primate tattoo, this guy had the dopest fucking, one of my t-shirt designs on his shoulder, the Shiva one. 0.98
01:34:22.000 He had it done on his shoulder by this wicked tattoo artist. 1.00
01:34:25.000 Whoever you were, you fucking son of a bitch. 1.00
01:34:28.000 That was a badass tattoo. 1.00
01:34:30.000 Dude, you've got Pride gloves for me.
01:34:31.000 Dude, those were some originals.
01:34:33.000 Were they used?
01:34:34.000 No, those...
01:34:35.000 I went to Pride, I think it was in 05 in Japan, and they've never been used.
01:34:40.000 And then Red Band's got the classic English shirt.
01:34:42.000 I think Pride gloves are actually better than the gloves that the UFC uses.
01:34:46.000 In one way, it's that the padding goes more over the end of the fingers, and it kind of keeps you curled.
01:34:51.000 I feel like there are less eye pokes in Pride.
01:34:53.000 Do you feel that?
01:34:54.000 Man, I can't remember Pride.
01:34:55.000 It was so long gone.
01:34:56.000 Pride was awesome, man.
01:34:58.000 Yeah, it was fun. 1.00
01:34:58.000 Fuck, it was awesome. 1.00
01:34:59.000 Love it. 1.00
01:35:00.000 I used to love it.
01:35:00.000 It was such a crazy time.
01:35:02.000 Those fights were nuts, man.
01:35:04.000 Like, there's no other organization that would have put on Minotauro versus Bob Sapp.
01:35:09.000 That was a great fight.
01:35:09.000 That was craziness, man.
01:35:11.000 Yeah.
01:35:11.000 It was like they were almost superheroes in that ring.
01:35:13.000 If you don't know what we're talking about, Minotauro is this guy who's like the original jiu-jitsu heavyweight.
01:35:20.000 Like the original guy.
01:35:21.000 The first guy really to come along and start submitting high-end guys from his back.
01:35:25.000 Nobody did that before Minotauro.
01:35:27.000 And he fought this guy named Bob Sapp who was literally 370 pounds of all muscle. 0.99
01:35:33.000 He was fucking ridiculous. 0.99
01:35:35.000 And it was a crazy fight where Bob Sapp... 1.00
01:35:39.000 Piledrived Minotaur at one point in time.
01:35:41.000 Minotaur was more than a hundred pounds lighter than him.
01:35:44.000 More than a hundred.
01:35:45.000 I think he was probably a hundred and fifty pounds lighter than him.
01:35:48.000 It was craziness.
01:35:50.000 And he slapped the armbar on him.
01:35:51.000 Slapped an armbar at the end and caught him in an armbar.
01:35:53.000 Spoiler alert.
01:35:55.000 And Bob Sapp probably couldn't extend his arm more than that. 0.89
01:35:57.000 Oh, it was ridiculous. 0.94
01:35:58.000 Bob Sapp was so big, he didn't look real. 0.86
01:36:01.000 He made so much money in Japan endorsing products and stuff.
01:36:04.000 He made millions of it.
01:36:05.000 Yeah, but then the market kind of fell apart.
01:36:07.000 From what I understand, we're going to get Ensign Inoue on the podcast next time Ensign's in America.
01:36:12.000 Love him.
01:36:12.000 Yeah, he's great.
01:36:13.000 He went into Fukushima and delivered aid and stuff.
01:36:15.000 That was one intense dude.
01:36:16.000 Dude, that guy is the real deal.
01:36:19.000 And he was there during the height of Pride.
01:36:26.000 And he was also there when it dropped off. 0.98
01:36:29.000 So he'd probably be the one that could tell you what the fuck really happened. 0.95
01:36:32.000 When he comes on the podcast, maybe we'll get it from him. 0.97
01:36:34.000 And James Thompson, he was involved.
01:36:36.000 He's British, right? 0.71
01:36:37.000 Yeah, Colossus.
01:36:38.000 He's on my message board now.
01:36:40.000 And he writes a lot of blogs.
01:36:42.000 He's actually a very good writer.
01:36:44.000 Okay. 0.99
01:36:44.000 Really interesting cat, you know, because he's this big, scary-looking motherfucker, but he's actually a really well-thought-out, well-spoken guy. 0.99
01:36:51.000 He's a London Real fan. 0.96
01:36:52.000 He sent us a message the other day, actually.
01:36:54.000 That was him, right?
01:36:55.000 He sent me a message to my Facebook, and I was like, can't be the same James Thompson.
01:36:58.000 Yeah, he's a great guy, man.
01:36:59.000 That's cool.
01:36:59.000 Sorry, James, I'm going to get back to you.
01:37:01.000 Like I said, he's on my message board all the time.
01:37:04.000 He's a great guy.
01:37:04.000 A lot of MMA guys are cool dudes.
01:37:06.000 Yeah.
01:37:07.000 I think it's along the same lines that we talked about with jiu-jitsu.
01:37:10.000 The only difference with MMA, of course, is that you have to consider...
01:37:14.000 Thank you very much for these gloves, by the way.
01:37:16.000 It's awesome.
01:37:16.000 Thank you, man.
01:37:16.000 You have to consider with MMA the potential for long-term damage to your mind.
01:37:23.000 You just have to consider that.
01:37:25.000 And so these guys always have that sort of hanging over their head.
01:37:28.000 And I think that's one of the reasons why you really can't enjoy it like you can enjoy jiu-jitsu.
01:37:34.000 Like jujitsu, even when you tap somebody, you don't feel bad because you get tapped too.
01:37:39.000 Everybody taps.
01:37:40.000 It's just part of the whole game.
01:37:42.000 It's like he needs to learn that you can't put your arm there if the guy's got your back.
01:37:48.000 He needs to learn what he did wrong in that position because it's not like if you got Hodger in that position, you could have tapped him.
01:37:54.000 You know what I mean?
01:37:55.000 It's a lesson for everybody.
01:37:57.000 So you don't even feel bad about delivering the lesson.
01:38:00.000 Because if you're trying to get good at jujitsu, ultimately you should welcome getting tapped.
01:38:04.000 Because it exposes you, your true weaknesses, otherwise you're really not going to know.
01:38:09.000 And the only way to get better is to see those weaknesses, shore up those holes, and move forward.
01:38:13.000 So someone who taps you is actually helping you.
01:38:15.000 And that aspect doesn't exist in kickboxing.
01:38:19.000 You know, kickboxing, man, you only have a certain rat-a-tat-tat That you could take to your head.
01:38:23.000 You only have a certain number, man.
01:38:25.000 And when you deliver, especially when you deliver on a sparring partner, there's part of you that knows that you just did some damage. 0.96
01:38:31.000 When you uncork a right hand on someone, you see their eyes roll back and their knees buckle, you know you just fuck that guy's consciousness up for a blip.
01:38:38.000 Are guys training smarter these days? 0.73
01:38:39.000 I know Mack Denzik was here talking about that.
01:38:41.000 Do you think a lot of fighters have had that new philosophy of, I'm going to train smarter, not harder?
01:38:45.000 I think some of them have, certainly.
01:38:47.000 But some of them don't have access to the most technical trainers.
01:38:51.000 You know, there's some trainers, like there's the Matt Humes of the world, who if you watch their fighters, their fighters are so obviously well-trained, very obviously technical.
01:39:01.000 Winklejohn's fighters are also very similar.
01:39:04.000 They're super obviously well technically trained.
01:39:07.000 You watch Cowboy Cerrone move.
01:39:09.000 You watch what John Jones is learning.
01:39:12.000 These guys are learning very good technique.
01:39:15.000 And the only way to truly do that is to be taught by someone who is at the front of the game. 0.98
01:39:22.000 Someone who really knows what the fuck is up. 0.88
01:39:24.000 Someone who has a super technical stand-up game and knows how to move a fighter... 0.98
01:39:31.000 Through progression.
01:39:32.000 Challenge them and test them, but not have them get mauled.
01:39:36.000 Not have them get beat up.
01:39:37.000 And figure out a way to balance all that out.
01:39:40.000 Because it takes one bad punch and you'll never be the same fighter again.
01:39:44.000 Yeah, I've seen guys that, especially kicks, I've seen guys that got kicked in the head and were never the same.
01:39:49.000 And that is 100% real.
01:39:51.000 Especially, like, there's certain kicks, like wheel kicks and things along those lines where there's an insane amount of power.
01:40:01.000 That's where the heel lands on your head, right?
01:40:03.000 Yeah, Edson Barbosa versus Terry Edom fight, where Edson Barbosa knocked Terry Edom out with a wheel kick in Brazil. 0.99
01:40:09.000 I mean, it was fucking nasty. 0.92
01:40:12.000 I mean, the heel connected right to the jaw. 1.00
01:40:15.000 The consciousness was gone instantly.
01:40:17.000 He fell down like he was dead.
01:40:20.000 Those kind of knockouts, man. 0.98
01:40:21.000 How many of those you got in your life?
01:40:23.000 I mean, do you have five?
01:40:24.000 Do you have a number, like five, and after that you'll never be the same person?
01:40:27.000 Is it one?
01:40:28.000 Is it two?
01:40:29.000 Is it three?
01:40:29.000 We really don't know because it varies per person.
01:40:32.000 Do you see these guys fade sometimes?
01:40:33.000 I mean, you're in there week in and week out commentating on these UFCs.
01:40:36.000 Do you ever see that, you know, that Terry Adam guy and you're like, wait a second, he's not moving the same way he used to?
01:40:41.000 No question about it.
01:40:43.000 You could see it in their speech patterns.
01:40:45.000 Some guys, a lot of, you know, look, the underground is a mixed martial arts forum that I frequent.
01:40:51.000 MixedMartialArts.com.
01:40:52.000 In my opinion, the best Mixed Martial Arts website in the world. 1.00
01:40:57.000 Shut up, bitch! 1.00
01:41:00.000 Have you ever been to Sherdog, Brian? 1.00
01:41:03.000 Sherdog's good, too.
01:41:04.000 They're old school.
01:41:05.000 It's a great website, too. 0.98
01:41:06.000 There's just a few too many cunts on the board. 1.00
01:41:08.000 They're just a little better at squashing cuntiness. 0.99
01:41:11.000 Although I shouldn't say that because I hear Sherdog's gotten a lot better about it. 0.93
01:41:15.000 Anyway, my point is they're ruthless because they're hiding behind anonymous screen names, but sometimes they're accurate.
01:41:21.000 And every now and then they'll put up a video and say, does so-and-so seem to have brain damage?
01:41:26.000 And then you listen to him and you're like, wow, that guy is struggling.
01:41:29.000 There was a video with Paul Williams recently where he was, Paul Williams the boxer, who got knocked out by Sergio Martinez with a vicious one-punch knockout.
01:41:39.000 And then he was in a motorcycle accident, which left him paralyzed, and they interviewed him in the motorcycle.
01:41:44.000 And I was listening to his labored speech, and I was like, ooh, that doesn't sound good.
01:41:49.000 That's a horrible man.
01:41:50.000 Yeah, I met, well, I didn't meet him, but I was right behind Terry Norris when he was talking to a fan once.
01:41:57.000 And I was a huge Terry Norris fan when I was a kid.
01:42:00.000 He was like one of my favorite boxers. 0.50
01:42:02.000 And Terry Norris was standing there talking to this dude, and I couldn't believe it was real.
01:42:09.000 I thought he was hammered drunk or something.
01:42:12.000 I thought, this cannot be real.
01:42:13.000 This cannot be how this guy talks now.
01:42:15.000 And so I inched over close and listened to their conversation.
01:42:19.000 And oh my god, it was so sad. 0.99
01:42:22.000 It was the saddest fucking thing to me. 0.98
01:42:23.000 Because being a big fan of this guy and watching his fight so many times, he was this really wild dude. 0.99
01:42:29.000 And he got knocked out a few times.
01:42:31.000 And he was one of those guys that was either... 0.98
01:42:33.000 He would kill or be killed. 0.80
01:42:37.000 And he got knocked out by some... 0.98
01:42:40.000 Badass dudes like Julian Jackson knocked him out. 0.99
01:42:43.000 Fucking scary knockouts. 1.00
01:42:44.000 And to see him, when he was younger than me at the time, and to see him slurring his words like that scared the fucking shit out of me, man. 0.99
01:42:52.000 Just scared the shit out of me. 0.90
01:42:53.000 You've seen Meldrick Taylor lately?
01:42:55.000 Have you seen that?
01:42:57.000 Horrific.
01:42:58.000 Melchick Taylor was one of the best boxers to ever come out of the Olympics in his early professional days. 1.00
01:43:03.000 He was a fucking wizard. 0.99
01:43:04.000 He was so fast. 1.00
01:43:05.000 And he had one really, really brutal fight with Julio Cesar Chavez.
01:43:09.000 Never the same again.
01:43:11.000 And then Terry Norris knocked him out.
01:43:12.000 A few guys knocked him out, but he's still fighting.
01:43:14.000 And they had an interview with him recently on HBO where they showed him when he was younger, talking, and then they showed him today.
01:43:20.000 And it's horrendous.
01:43:23.000 That is a real reality of combat sports.
01:43:26.000 Do you think the UFC is safe enough now?
01:43:28.000 Or do you think in 10 years we're going to start seeing blowback?
01:43:31.000 And is there any other way around that?
01:43:32.000 I mean, humans want to see combat sports, right?
01:43:34.000 Well, look, here's what's safe.
01:43:36.000 You've got to get out before you have irreparable damage.
01:43:39.000 That's what's safe.
01:43:39.000 Guys have done it.
01:43:40.000 There's guys who have retired and they're fine and healthy.
01:43:44.000 Look, Marvin Hagler is apparently in great, great health.
01:43:48.000 He was a great boxer, but he never got knocked out. 0.97
01:43:51.000 He never got fucked up. 0.96
01:43:52.000 Hagler knew after the Sugar Ray Leonard fight, alright, I'm done. 0.99
01:43:55.000 This is it.
01:43:55.000 He never came back.
01:43:57.000 Rocky Marciano did the same thing. 0.74
01:43:59.000 Got out before he got really fucked up and was fine in his later years before he died in a plane crash. 0.98
01:44:04.000 But you can figure out, but you have to be really smart. 0.98
01:44:09.000 And that's hard to do.
01:44:10.000 And it's also you have to have something that excites you, like fighting does.
01:44:14.000 Because these guys, it's not like you can fight and then all of a sudden you can't fight anymore.
01:44:19.000 It's you can fight and you fight just a little less good than you used to. 0.99
01:44:22.000 And it fucks with your head. 0.98
01:44:23.000 And you're like, you know what, man? 1.00
01:44:24.000 I just need to change my training up. 0.98
01:44:26.000 I need to incorporate some fucking swimming or something. 0.97
01:44:28.000 And you'll try to do that. 0.99
01:44:29.000 And then you get knocked out again.
01:44:31.000 And you're like, wow, I was winning that first round until I got caught.
01:44:34.000 Like Chance Pulver is still going at it.
01:44:35.000 Sure, still going at it.
01:44:36.000 Because he's still good enough to stay in the game, but only just, right?
01:44:39.000 Only just.
01:44:40.000 And those knockouts, those all become ticket holes.
01:44:45.000 Holes in your ticket.
01:44:46.000 Chunk! 1.00
01:44:46.000 Where your ticket gets punched over and over again. 1.00
01:44:48.000 And how many you got?
01:44:50.000 Who knows?
01:44:50.000 I mean, Alistair has been stopped a bunch of times, but you look at him now, he's better than ever.
01:44:54.000 Ovarin.
01:44:54.000 Yeah, Ovarin's been stopped.
01:44:56.000 But Peter Ertz.
01:44:56.000 Peter Ertz has been stopped a gang of times.
01:44:58.000 Still beat Semi Schilt two years ago in the K-1 Grand Prix.
01:45:02.000 So it's like some guys, they can get stopped a bunch of times and still be okay, and other guys not.
01:45:08.000 It's luck of the draw right at the end of the day.
01:45:09.000 No one can tell you. 0.99
01:45:12.000 Some guys, like Mark Hunt, can take a fucking ferocious shot. 0.99
01:45:15.000 And there's other guys who just can't take that much punishment. 0.99
01:45:18.000 They're built differently.
01:45:19.000 They...
01:45:20.000 For whatever it's worth, who knows what it is?
01:45:23.000 Some person has a glass jaw, the other guy's got an iron jaw.
01:45:26.000 How much of it is psychological?
01:45:27.000 How much of it is physical?
01:45:28.000 It's hard to tell.
01:45:29.000 It's a combination of both, I'm sure.
01:45:31.000 But it's not a safe sport.
01:45:35.000 It's as safe as we can make it, but the fighters all realize that there's a certain amount of risk involved.
01:45:39.000 You're going to get injured.
01:45:41.000 You're going to get broken bones.
01:45:42.000 You're going to get torn ligaments.
01:45:43.000 You're going to get concussions.
01:45:44.000 You're going to have that in mixed martial arts.
01:45:46.000 There's no way around that.
01:45:47.000 So in that sense, it's as safe as we can make it, but it's a dangerous sport.
01:45:52.000 So they have to think about that, and they have to train with that in mind, and they have to understand when it's time to not do it anymore.
01:45:59.000 You know what really pisses me off is when someone says, oh, the ref shouldn't have stopped the fight.
01:46:03.000 It's like, man, always err on the side of caution when it's someone's brain in jeopardy.
01:46:07.000 Yeah.
01:46:07.000 You know what I mean?
01:46:08.000 I think some guys, you've got to let them try to get it.
01:46:12.000 Like Frankie Edgar, a perfect example.
01:46:14.000 How do you stop that guy's fights early?
01:46:16.000 When you see that first round, two fights in a row.
01:46:19.000 You see that and you go, how could you stop that guy's fight?
01:46:22.000 You've got to look at the individual and his ability to bounce back from punishment.
01:46:26.000 You've got to give him the opportunity to win.
01:46:30.000 Frankie's proven time and time again that he can do that.
01:46:32.000 In that sense, the referee has to be an expert in fighters' particular styles and their ability to endure punishment.
01:46:40.000 It's not the best way to compete, but with a guy like Frankie Edgar, it's also one of his weapons.
01:46:47.000 One of his weapons is that he's in incredible shape and that he recovers quickly.
01:46:52.000 And, you know, he can wear a guy out because of that. 0.97
01:46:55.000 He can drag a guy into some crazy fucking firefight where, you know, he's got a thousand bullets and the other guy might only have 400. So, you know, he might think, oh, I got 400 bullets. 0.98
01:47:05.000 This guy's fucking dead. 1.00
01:47:06.000 Meanwhile, he can keep going, man. 1.00
01:47:08.000 And, like, you know, the fourth round with Gray Maynard, when he knocked him out, it was like, God damn, he's still going. 0.95
01:47:15.000 He's still going at the same clip he was going in the first round.
01:47:17.000 And Gray couldn't manage that at that point in his...
01:47:20.000 What's it like behind the scenes at the UFC? I mean, what would we be surprised at something you just notice all the time when you're calling those fights at the UFC? I don't know, man.
01:47:28.000 You know, it's a weird job.
01:47:31.000 It's a weird job even for me.
01:47:33.000 It's hard to believe that it is my job whenever I do it.
01:47:36.000 It's hard to believe.
01:47:37.000 I put on the headphones and they talk to me in the booth.
01:47:40.000 I'm like, what's up?
01:47:40.000 What's up?
01:47:40.000 What's up?
01:47:41.000 You ready to do this?
01:47:41.000 Let's do this.
01:47:42.000 Goldie and I touch knuckles in the first fight. 0.93
01:47:44.000 We're going to start in five, four.
01:47:47.000 The music plays and the lights go on.
01:47:49.000 You're like, wow, I guess this is my job.
01:47:51.000 It's hard to imagine they're paying you to do that?
01:47:53.000 It doesn't even seem real.
01:47:55.000 It doesn't seem real.
01:47:55.000 It doesn't seem that I'm the one who represents the techniques and I'm the one who explains to people...
01:48:04.000 What to look for and what's going on.
01:48:05.000 It's very strange.
01:48:07.000 So even while I'm doing it, I mean, I'm doing it to the best of my abilities, the best of my knowledge. 0.98
01:48:11.000 It's still bizarre as fuck. 0.95
01:48:13.000 I have a hard time believing it's really happening while I'm doing it. 0.98
01:48:16.000 I always tell people we're like you and Goldberg.
01:48:18.000 Like, I'm the Goldberg because I got a bunch of questions I got to ask Hancock, for example.
01:48:22.000 Right.
01:48:22.000 And then Nick's kind of like the play-by-play flow.
01:48:24.000 flow.
01:48:25.000 He just like, if he's feeling something, he just asked that question.
01:48:27.000 Yeah.
01:48:27.000 And then I'm like, okay, I gotta, I gotta get through these things.
01:48:30.000 I gotta say the fighter does this, the fighter does this next week on Fox.
01:48:33.000 You can watch this show.
01:48:34.000 Yeah.
01:48:34.000 Yeah.
01:48:35.000 That's Goldberg's move.
01:48:37.000 It's a difficult job.
01:48:38.000 He doesn't get nearly as much credit as he deserves.
01:48:40.000 He's really good at that.
01:48:41.000 He's really smooth.
01:48:42.000 People just get upset that he's not a martial artist.
01:48:46.000 The bottom line is you really have to be an actual martial artist to do martial arts commentary.
01:48:51.000 There's no way around it.
01:48:53.000 You can't fake it.
01:48:53.000 You can't not know how to take someone's back and explain how he's got to take his back.
01:48:59.000 If you see someone who's doing something, I'll see someone occasionally.
01:49:03.000 I'm like, you can't let go of that underhook. 1.00
01:49:06.000 I'm like, if this guy lets go of that underhook, this motherfucker's going to take his back. 0.99
01:49:08.000 Especially a guy like Hani Yaya or someone who's a super high-level guy. 0.98
01:49:12.000 Like, Hanyaya, one of his recent fights, he got side control on this guy, and as soon as he reached back, I'm like, oh, he's going north-south choke.
01:49:20.000 And I called it, like, several steps ahead.
01:49:22.000 But with a guy like Hany, you can see it.
01:49:24.000 Like, I know what he's going to do.
01:49:26.000 You can't let him wrap his arm around your neck.
01:49:28.000 You let him reach back with that left arm, you might as well just go to sleep.
01:49:31.000 Just take a nap, because he's going to choke you.
01:49:33.000 That's step one of a three-step process you're not going to be able to stop.
01:49:37.000 Because once he got step one, his base is set, and you're done.
01:49:41.000 And you've got to know that.
01:49:43.000 There's no way you can know that without doing that.
01:49:45.000 If you listen to the commentary on the early UFCs, it's hysterical, because these guys were like, The hardest part, to me, is the ground game.
01:49:57.000 There's a lot of variables in stand-up, for sure.
01:50:03.000 It's not that stand-up is easy, but there's infinite variables on the ground, and you have to understand the various different styles of attacking different positions.
01:50:14.000 Some guys They'll go side control on a guy and face towards the feet. 0.84
01:50:18.000 And they'll be like, guys, we'll try to get a guy in a twister or try to get someone's back.
01:50:22.000 And then there's other guys that go judo style.
01:50:24.000 And they're going to look for the mounted crucifix.
01:50:27.000 They're going to look to ground and pound.
01:50:28.000 Or they're going to look for a scarf hole or some kind of like...
01:50:31.000 Mark Coleman did that to Dan Severn.
01:50:33.000 It was like one of the first submissions in the UFC heavyweight division when he won the title.
01:50:38.000 You have to see all those.
01:50:40.000 You have to understand those. 0.95
01:50:42.000 You have to have been strangled. 0.70
01:50:43.000 You have to get somebody with it.
01:50:45.000 You have to fight it off.
01:50:46.000 If you don't, you're not going to be able to explain to people what this guy's doing wrong or what he needs to do.
01:50:52.000 And that's what makes it more exciting.
01:50:55.000 When a guy's doing, like Jimmy Smith is really good at it from Bellator.
01:50:58.000 With Jimmy Smith, if a guy's got someone's back, he's like, He's got to defend with his right arm while he's attacking with his left.
01:51:04.000 He'll explain to people.
01:51:06.000 And if you're a person who's an amateur or someone who has nothing to do with martial arts, you can watch it and follow along.
01:51:13.000 Oh, I see what that guy's doing.
01:51:14.000 His right arm's going to choke that guy. 0.97
01:51:15.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:51:16.000 And the other guy, he's saying he's got to get his leg free, otherwise he's going to get, oh, I see, yeah, he's holding him with his legs.
01:51:22.000 And it adds to the excitement.
01:51:25.000 And that's, you can't be a sports guy and do that.
01:51:28.000 You have to be a martial artist.
01:51:30.000 On that note, Joe, what's your favorite submission?
01:51:33.000 Chokes. 0.99
01:51:34.000 With the collar?
01:51:36.000 No, no, no, no, no.
01:51:37.000 I hate that.
01:51:38.000 Do you use the gi? 0.99
01:51:38.000 Yeah, I have a black belt under Jean-Jacques in the gi, but I don't fucking use it. 0.99
01:51:43.000 I use overhooks and underhooks. 0.78
01:51:46.000 I believe that if your game is gi-oriented, the good thing about the gi is defense. 1.00
01:51:52.000 The good thing about the gi is you must be tactical in your defense. 0.97
01:51:56.000 You have to be tactical in your attacks.
01:51:58.000 You can't... 0.95
01:51:59.000 Because a guy gets a hold of your collar, a guy gets a hold of your sleeve, there's a lot of shit they could do to you if you were slippery and with no gi, you could just muscle out of it. 0.60
01:52:06.000 But you have to use technique and you have to do it the right way with a gi. 1.00
01:52:10.000 So in that way, the gi is good.
01:52:12.000 So you're like a Das in Bravo guy?
01:52:13.000 Yeah.
01:52:14.000 But I think that...
01:52:15.000 Or rear nakeds and guillotines.
01:52:17.000 But I think that the beautiful thing about a gi is if you're fighting a guy who's got a coat on. 1.00
01:52:21.000 Some guy who's got a leather jacket on is talking shit. 1.00
01:52:24.000 All you have to do is grab his collar and he's dead. 1.00
01:52:27.000 He just won't know what's happening.
01:52:28.000 All you have to do is get a hand.
01:52:29.000 He won't even know what you're doing.
01:52:31.000 He'll be trying to punch you and just reach into his collar and just...
01:52:34.000 You know what I find interesting?
01:52:35.000 I don't know if you remember there was that scientist...
01:52:38.000 There was a group of islands that had different monkey tribes on and what was happening is... 1.00
01:52:43.000 When one monkey and one island learn how to pick a certain banana or open a certain fruit, then all the other monkeys learned it.
01:52:49.000 And it's a similar thing with Jiu-Jitsu.
01:52:51.000 Suddenly, you'll just see this new choke in the game that you've never seen before.
01:52:55.000 And then in three months, everyone knows it.
01:52:57.000 It's such an interesting thing.
01:52:58.000 Yeah, Darces came along that way.
01:53:01.000 Yeah, that's what made me think of it.
01:53:02.000 So that front kick, that Anderson Silva front kick after he started doing everybody.
01:53:05.000 Well, that was so dramatic.
01:53:07.000 That was something that everybody saw.
01:53:09.000 But I think what you're saying is that it just spreads through schools because people just figure it out at the same time.
01:53:14.000 Because they watch YouTube videos and some guy uses in a column.
01:53:17.000 It's like a meme.
01:53:18.000 Sometimes.
01:53:19.000 Well, there's also one technique.
01:53:21.000 There'll be a new technique.
01:53:23.000 One of them was attacking from the half guard.
01:53:25.000 One of the things that opened up the darts was that a lot of people were attacking from the half guard.
01:53:28.000 And they were going with a double underhooks attack.
01:53:31.000 And when they were going with a double underhooks attack, a lot of guys were sneaking their arms in And then all of a sudden it became anaconda chokes, darts chokes.
01:53:39.000 That's what people were going for.
01:53:40.000 It's a whole new subset of the art, basically.
01:53:42.000 Yeah, and it was basically to deal with underhooks.
01:53:46.000 So if you're on the side of a guy, like maybe in half guard, and a guy has a really strong underhook, You know that if you get your arm under his underhook and pass his neck and connect your arms together, now he's in a bit of trouble.
01:54:00.000 You just put yourself in a dangerous situation.
01:54:02.000 You're trying to be very offensive, but in allowing me to whizzer your underhook and pass by your neck, now you've allowed me to control your neck.
01:54:09.000 Now I've got a position on you.
01:54:11.000 And now, especially if you go Japanese necktie, which is one of the new moves that a lot of guys are doing now.
01:54:15.000 I've never even heard of that.
01:54:16.000 Ooh, I've got to show it to you. 1.00
01:54:17.000 It's shit. 1.00
01:54:18.000 It's way more high percentage than a Darce. 1.00
01:54:24.000 Let me ask you a question, Joe.
01:54:26.000 I want to ask you a question about London and what you think of London.
01:54:30.000 I think he was going first.
01:54:31.000 Yeah, I'm sorry.
01:54:31.000 Go ahead.
01:54:31.000 I always cut him off on the show.
01:54:33.000 I'm always like, no.
01:54:34.000 It's hard to do that, right?
01:54:35.000 We only have an hour left.
01:54:36.000 People think you're rude to cut people off, but you're not meaning to.
01:54:40.000 It's just like you have a thought, and if you don't say it, sometimes it escapes, and it gets away from you, because the conversation derivatives.
01:54:46.000 Well, I have two, dude.
01:54:48.000 I'm sorry, I got two.
01:54:49.000 I'll never forgive myself.
01:54:50.000 So the first one is, do you think if you got in a time machine and traveled 100 years into the future, and then...
01:54:56.000 Walked into a jiu-jitsu academy, do you think you'd still be able to hang?
01:55:00.000 I'd get killed. 0.92
01:55:00.000 Do you think so? 0.92
01:55:01.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
01:55:02.000 Interesting. 0.99
01:55:03.000 Yeah, unless they were fucking terrible. 1.00
01:55:05.000 I'd fuck up some white belts. 1.00
01:55:07.000 Yeah, I guess so. 0.99
01:55:10.000 But I think black belts, well, black belts, they're really good black belts.
01:55:13.000 I'm a weak black belt, like, objectively.
01:55:16.000 Like, I'm strong.
01:55:17.000 Don't get me wrong.
01:55:18.000 I have strong jiu-jitsu.
01:55:19.000 But as far as, like, high-end black belt guys, I usually get tapped.
01:55:22.000 You know, it's just reality.
01:55:24.000 You know, I'm not a world champion.
01:55:26.000 I don't have enough time to put into that.
01:55:28.000 In order, I have much more potential.
01:55:31.000 I mean, if I really had the time to train five days a week and get a strength and conditioning, I think I could jump my game up big.
01:55:37.000 I think my mind is way more ahead of my body.
01:55:41.000 It's just I don't have the time to do it.
01:55:42.000 I don't have the time to put in the numbers between having a family and doing stand-up, doing a podcast.
01:55:47.000 Traveling for the UFC, it's hard.
01:55:49.000 I train as much as I can, and when I train, I give 100%.
01:55:52.000 Are you still writing a book?
01:55:53.000 Yeah.
01:55:54.000 Do you feel like you need to get a book out of you?
01:55:57.000 No.
01:55:58.000 I would like to do it. 0.95
01:55:59.000 I have a lot of shit already written, and I will eventually put it out.
01:56:03.000 But right now, I'm concentrating on my new studio and my stand-up special, which is going to be out at the end of the month, the end of October. 0.96
01:56:11.000 Is that already in the can?
01:56:12.000 Yeah, it's already in the can.
01:56:13.000 It's just a matter of the website getting built, which takes a lot longer than you think to have a nice website made.
01:56:18.000 So that's being made and then just to get the infrastructure in place, distributed.
01:56:23.000 I found out somewhere along the line that when I do too many things at the same time, I don't have any fun.
01:56:28.000 And everything suffers?
01:56:29.000 Everything suffers.
01:56:30.000 The family and everything.
01:56:31.000 Yeah.
01:56:31.000 Well, I won't let that suffer.
01:56:33.000 So the things that suffer are other aspects of my career. 0.99
01:56:36.000 So I limit the amount of shit that I do. 0.95
01:56:38.000 So once this stand-up special's out and I can not think about that, boom, then I'm diving full into writing. 0.99
01:56:44.000 Writing the book.
01:56:45.000 Because I already have to balance it out with writing stand-up, which right now is more important because my special's about to drop and I have a whole new hour that I've basically put together between the time I did the special and now.
01:56:57.000 What do you want from your stand-up in five years from now?
01:57:00.000 Do you want to see bigger audiences?
01:57:02.000 Do you ever have goals like that?
01:57:03.000 No, no.
01:57:05.000 I'm super happy.
01:57:06.000 If nothing changed at all other than the way it is right now, if it just maintained, I'd be the happiest person on earth.
01:57:13.000 I have the greatest audiences in the history of the art form.
01:57:17.000 It's the craziest thing ever.
01:57:18.000 I wish you guys could come to see some of these crowds because they're crazy.
01:57:21.000 And it's mostly podcast fans.
01:57:23.000 It's mostly people who don't just resonate with the idea of comedy but resonate with the idea that there's someone out there that's also confused by all this.
01:57:32.000 And there's someone out there that's being honest about all of it.
01:57:34.000 And those people, I've sort of found a huge amount of them because of this podcast.
01:57:39.000 And I don't desire anything more than that.
01:57:44.000 Just having all the people come up to me after shows, all the people that tell me they've lost weight, all the people that tell me they've got their shit together, that they're living their life like they're the hero in their own story.
01:57:54.000 I love that analogy.
01:57:55.000 That's awesome.
01:57:55.000 That's a great way to think of it.
01:57:57.000 And it should be like the blockbuster moment in the movie every day.
01:57:59.000 You should be saving the girl.
01:58:01.000 You can do that.
01:58:02.000 You could literally do what the hero would do.
01:58:06.000 It doesn't mean rescue babies out of burning buildings. 1.00
01:58:09.000 It means don't be a cunt. 1.00
01:58:10.000 Figure out a way to get your shit together. 1.00
01:58:12.000 Don't be someone who's just slacking off and jerking off while behind you is a mountain of work to do. 1.00
01:58:17.000 Get your stuff done. 0.99
01:58:19.000 Do it.
01:58:20.000 Be someone who you would admire.
01:58:22.000 And that's something that I had to learn on my own slowly over a long period of time.
01:58:27.000 But in reiterating that on the podcast, just like in teaching jiu-jitsu, it's become very concrete in my head.
01:58:33.000 You know, I have another very deep and meaningful question I want your input on.
01:58:38.000 In fact, me and my jiu-jitsu buddies debate about this all the time.
01:58:41.000 And some of them want your input, which is, what do you think would win in a fight out of a silverback gorilla and a Bengal tiger?
01:58:49.000 Tiger.
01:58:49.000 Tiger would kill that gorilla.
01:58:50.000 Come on, man. 0.99
01:58:51.000 Gorilla wouldn't even have a chance.
01:58:52.000 Claws.
01:58:53.000 See, I say gorilla, man.
01:58:54.000 You know, a gorilla can rip a car tire in half with its bare hands, right? 1.00
01:58:57.000 Good luck with that shit, where that tiger's got your back and is choking your neck off it. 1.00
01:59:00.000 I refuse to debate this. 1.00
01:59:02.000 I don't think the tiger would fuck with the gorilla because it's not going to be easy. 0.98
01:59:06.000 I think it's going to be a struggle. 0.97
01:59:07.000 That's why gorillas nest on the ground. 0.99
01:59:09.000 Gorillas don't give a fuck. 1.00
01:59:10.000 They're 500 pounds and they're 5'4". 1.00
01:59:13.000 They have no natural predators.
01:59:14.000 They're so strong.
01:59:15.000 We can't even wrap our heads around how strong they are. 1.00
01:59:18.000 Because chimps are strong as fuck, and gorillas would rape a chimp with their little one-inch dick. 1.00
01:59:23.000 Gorillas have tiny dicks. 1.00
01:59:24.000 I didn't know that. 1.00
01:59:24.000 Because they're so dominant, they don't have any pressure from other males. 1.00
01:59:28.000 And the women, the female gorillas, are so in line with how everything's supposed to be. 1.00
01:59:33.000 They're not sluts at all. 1.00
01:59:34.000 Female chimps are whores. 1.00
01:59:36.000 They will fuck anybody who comes around. 1.00
01:59:39.000 And male chimps know this. 1.00
01:59:40.000 So male chimps have giant testicles. 1.00
01:59:42.000 And the reason why they have giant testicles is they always got to be ready to go with a big fat load for one of these dirty bitches. 1.00
01:59:48.000 Dude, I'm so glad we came on the show. 1.00
01:59:51.000 That's a part of the chimp world. 1.00
01:59:53.000 And all animals that live in promiscuous societies, they all have large testicles, including human beings. 0.99
01:59:59.000 There's a direct correlation between the size of a man's testicles and whether or not... 0.99
02:00:03.000 The promiscuity of the women. 1.00
02:00:04.000 Yeah, the promiscuity of the women in your environment. 1.00
02:00:06.000 When are you going to Africa on safari?
02:00:08.000 I know you always said you're scared of Africa.
02:00:10.000 There's no real safari, dude.
02:00:11.000 You can go to Botswana.
02:00:12.000 Yeah, but you know where you go, dude?
02:00:13.000 You go to these wildlife sort of containment areas where, you know, everybody gets in a...
02:00:18.000 You can go actually out there.
02:00:18.000 Yeah, that's a good way to die.
02:00:20.000 South Africa, you can go to proper safaris.
02:00:21.000 In Botswana, you can go in the middle of nowhere.
02:00:22.000 Yeah, you can also get eaten by a lion. 0.99
02:00:24.000 There was a whole fucking story recently about these two female lions that broke into a house and pulled a guy out of the shower. 0.99
02:00:32.000 He was showering. 0.99
02:00:33.000 He was naked showering and he got killed by two female lions.
02:00:36.000 The females do all the hunting. 0.97
02:00:38.000 The males just sit around. 1.00
02:00:39.000 Yeah, but dudes are crazy. 0.98
02:00:39.000 Could you wrap your head around it? 0.98
02:00:41.000 So you're not going to Africa?
02:00:42.000 Bar of soap.
02:00:44.000 And you hear something. 1.00
02:00:47.000 You open the fucking curtain. 1.00
02:00:49.000 There's two lions in the bathroom with you. 1.00
02:00:52.000 Two female lions.
02:00:53.000 And they just put the beating on you, son. 0.98
02:00:55.000 Rip you to shreds. 1.00
02:00:57.000 Drag you out. 0.99
02:00:58.000 Okay, what's the better way to go? 1.00
02:01:00.000 Africa, basically what I'm trying to say is that Africa can suck my dick, okay? 1.00
02:01:05.000 I'm not going to where all the scary animals live. 1.00
02:01:10.000 So, Joe, if you have to choose a way to die, would you rather be in the water with a great white or land with a lion? 1.00
02:01:17.000 No, you're not going to one-if me into a fucking heart attack. 1.00
02:01:21.000 I'm fucking scared of all of them, man. 1.00
02:01:23.000 I'm scared of tigers. 0.99
02:01:24.000 I'm scared of sharks.
02:01:26.000 I'm scared of everything, dude. 1.00
02:01:27.000 I'm scared of all that shit. 1.00
02:01:29.000 Joe, by the way, that ancient alien documentary thing that you tweeted, did you watch the whole thing? 1.00
02:01:34.000 Yes, I watched all three hours.
02:01:37.000 Yeah, I should give that guy props.
02:01:40.000 There's a video that I tweeted yesterday.
02:01:43.000 Today is October the 2nd, and if you go to the October the 1st feed, I tweeted this video where this guy, he must have like massive autism, because this guy went and debunked every single point that ancient aliens has ever put forth about how humans could have never built this!
02:02:06.000 This is impossible! 0.99
02:02:07.000 He fucking stomped a dirty mud hole in every fucking show that they've ever done. 1.00
02:02:14.000 And he did it. 1.00
02:02:15.000 It's over three hours long.
02:02:17.000 It's on YouTube, and there's no question...
02:02:19.000 No question.
02:02:20.000 No question.
02:02:21.000 You watch it, you're like, okay, yeah.
02:02:22.000 It's so good.
02:02:23.000 It said, just go to Ancient Aliens Debunked, and you want full movie fixed audio.
02:02:29.000 That's the version.
02:02:30.000 The other one had a little weird glitch in the audio, but it's still...
02:02:33.000 You can still watch it.
02:02:35.000 It's still excellent.
02:02:35.000 And it's called...
02:02:36.000 The guy's YouTube name is...
02:02:38.000 What is it?
02:02:39.000 Verse by Verse...
02:02:42.000 Bt.
02:02:43.000 That's it.
02:02:43.000 It's one word.
02:02:44.000 Verse by verse Bt.
02:02:45.000 That is his YouTube page.
02:02:48.000 And it's a brilliant job.
02:02:49.000 Whoever this guy is, thank you very much.
02:02:51.000 Because what you did is you cleared up so much confusion.
02:02:55.000 And for me, there was a lot of stuff that I really didn't understand.
02:02:58.000 There's still some stuff that hasn't been explained.
02:03:00.000 There's some of the things about Pumapunku and the way they...
02:03:05.000 Move stones and fit them in.
02:03:06.000 And I think it's very interesting that this guy was able to find so many pieces of evidence that point to how they did certain things and explain how they built obelisks and giant stones and show ones that were in the process of being made when they abandoned so you can clearly see how they did it.
02:03:26.000 Fascinating.
02:03:27.000 And also he had some brilliant insight on the construction of the pyramids that I had never heard before about the theory of the internal ramp.
02:03:35.000 Because the question has always been how they place the stones.
02:03:39.000 How do they move them into place?
02:03:40.000 And they actually did some sort of a...
02:03:44.000 Wow.
02:03:44.000 Fascinating.
02:03:44.000 It's like an x-ray of some radio wave graph of the pyramid.
02:03:51.000 And you can actually see the internal ramp.
02:03:53.000 And they didn't understand what that was when they first made this reading of the actual structure of the pyramid of Giza.
02:04:01.000 Until this internal ramp theory came into play, and this guy examines the internal ramp theory and shows all the evidence for it, including areas of the pyramid where at certain points you could actually go in through the side of the pyramid, there's a hole, and you can go in and see where there's all this space in there, and most likely that's how it was built.
02:04:20.000 What does Graham Hancock say?
02:04:21.000 That's what I want to know.
02:04:22.000 Well, either way, listen, this ancient aliens debunking, what it does is explain how all these things were done.
02:04:33.000 What it doesn't explain is how they figured this out.
02:04:36.000 What it doesn't explain is what kind of intense mathematics were involved in the equations of 2,300,000 stones, each of them cut so perfectly that they meet exactly in a point at the top.
02:04:49.000 That's trippy.
02:04:50.000 It's amazing.
02:04:51.000 And more importantly, it doesn't explain why they did these things.
02:04:53.000 It doesn't explain that, and it doesn't explain where they got the knowledge from.
02:04:55.000 It explains how they did it.
02:04:57.000 And how they did it was, certainly, it took a long time.
02:05:00.000 It certainly was incredibly difficult.
02:05:02.000 It certainly required master craftsmen and builders and skillful labor.
02:05:08.000 But the knowledge to construct it is what's really fascinating because that is what Graham Hancock points to.
02:05:18.000 What he believes is backed by real evidence and that evidence is that there was a very sophisticated culture that existed all over the world somewhere around 10,000 BC and that something Probably happened to those people and we had to start a lot of things over again.
02:05:43.000 And coincidentally, this time period that Graham Hancock points to, which is about 10,000 plus BC, is the exact same time period that the most recent discoveries of glass, impact glass, from meteor showers has been discovered at the same layer of dirt All over the world.
02:06:03.000 So scientists are absolutely convinced, and this is fairly recently, that there was incredibly destructive meteor showers around 12,000 years ago.
02:06:14.000 And they found these in France.
02:06:15.000 They found this glass in the Middle East.
02:06:17.000 And when they do soil samples, it's all on the same, I believe it's called The same strata, I think that's how they describe it.
02:06:24.000 The same area where they know, the way to do the calculation stuff, how old it is when they do carbon testing on that area.
02:06:31.000 And they believe that somewhere 12,000 years ago, that's when the ice age ended.
02:06:38.000 That's when...
02:06:39.000 All this mass extinction.
02:06:41.000 It's all around the same time of woolly mammoths and saber-toothed tigers.
02:06:45.000 It's all in the same sort of area and they could all coincide.
02:06:51.000 So what we have in ancient Egypt is not simply an amazing culture that in 2500 BC built the pyramids.
02:06:58.000 It might very well be that 10,000 BC they built the Sphinx and 10,000 BC they had Massive stone structures already in place back when we thought that people were just hunter-gatherers.
02:07:10.000 That's the basis of Graham Hancock's thoughts on it.
02:07:14.000 And every day he's being proven correct.
02:07:16.000 The more people discover about ancient civilizations, the more Graham Hancock is correct.
02:07:22.000 He's a powerful man.
02:07:23.000 We were in awe of that.
02:07:25.000 Just a lovely human being, too.
02:07:28.000 Just a great guy.
02:07:29.000 Just exudes it.
02:07:31.000 He's like the perfect representative, in my opinion, of what Can be accomplished through psychedelics and thinking and just his take on his own work and his take on the difficulty in trying to express these very controversial ideas.
02:07:49.000 It's amazing.
02:07:50.000 He's very brave.
02:07:50.000 He's very honest.
02:07:51.000 I don't know if you watched the show with us, but he talked about the 24 years that he was smoking cannabis and how the ayahuasca told him.
02:07:58.000 And he just dropped that right on us in the episode and just like...
02:08:01.000 Man, I have a lot of respect for someone who can just be that honest about themselves.
02:08:05.000 That's the kind of guy you want running your country, man.
02:08:07.000 Yeah, he's no longer a writer or an archaeologist.
02:08:10.000 He was like a great mind.
02:08:12.000 He's a great man.
02:08:13.000 And he changed the way I looked at history.
02:08:16.000 That book, Fingerprints of the Gods, changed the way I look at history.
02:08:20.000 And I'm pretty convinced now, especially due to the most recent geological evidence and the discoveries of things like Gobekli Tepe, which is this 14,000-year-old massive compound of huge 9-foot-tall stone columns.
02:08:33.000 This really, or excuse me, is it 19?
02:08:36.000 I think it might be 19 foot tall still in columns.
02:08:38.000 It's got to be bigger than nine because nine wouldn't.
02:08:40.000 But it is still amazing because 14,000 years ago people were supposed to be hunter-gatherers.
02:08:45.000 There wasn't supposed to be any sort of civilization like this. 1.00
02:08:47.000 We're supposed to be living in fucking teepees and shit. 0.99
02:08:50.000 Then he's showing that there's these huge stone structures, by the way, which they've only uncovered less than 4% of, I believe, because it's a painstaking process of Because, you know, they've got to do it with toothbrushes and shit. 0.99
02:09:04.000 They've got to sift through the sand and find bone fragments and pottery fragments and things along those lines.
02:09:10.000 But what they do know about Gobekli Tepe is that it was covered up 14,000 years ago.
02:09:16.000 Covered up.
02:09:17.000 Purposely covered up. 1.00
02:09:19.000 They literally buried a whole fucking city 14,000 years ago. 1.00
02:09:25.000 Intentionally, maybe. 1.00
02:09:25.000 Intentionally. 1.00
02:09:25.000 They did intentionally. 1.00
02:09:27.000 They know they did.
02:09:27.000 Because the type of landfill that they use, they filled in the area.
02:09:33.000 They're convinced of this.
02:09:35.000 I don't know how they can figure that out, but they're pretty much in agreement with that.
02:09:39.000 Do you ever want to go to those sites?
02:09:40.000 I mean, do you ever want to go to the pyramids and check them out?
02:09:42.000 I've been to Chichen Itza.
02:09:43.000 That's the only place I've ever been to.
02:09:44.000 South America.
02:09:45.000 That's Mexico. 0.67
02:09:46.000 Mexico, okay.
02:09:47.000 Yeah, it's near Cancun. 0.99
02:09:49.000 Fucking amazing, man. 0.98
02:09:50.000 It's amazing. 0.99
02:09:50.000 It's incredible. 0.99
02:09:52.000 It feels different when you're there.
02:09:53.000 You can feel there's something about it.
02:09:54.000 But freaky beyond freaky.
02:09:57.000 Just to think that you're walking in this area, and as I'm looking around, I remember just standing there and just thinking that at one point in time, this was a football field, and they were playing that crazy game where they kicked this ball through a hole, which devolved to they believe that they might have played it with human heads at one point in time.
02:10:16.000 And just the one area where they have the sacrificial altar where they would kill someone and cut their heart out and throw the heart down the stairs.
02:10:24.000 I mean, they had it.
02:10:25.000 You could go there.
02:10:26.000 You could touch that altar.
02:10:27.000 You could walk up this stone staircase.
02:10:31.000 It would feel really negative.
02:10:32.000 It feels weird.
02:10:33.000 It's like these guys went...
02:10:35.000 It's dark.
02:10:36.000 Hancock's new book is about, his new fictional piece is about that whole period and he's, oh my gosh, he's talked about it on the show and we were like, it talks about 80,000 people being slaughtered in four days for ceremonial purposes and he's, I was just like, oh my god, let me buy that.
02:10:50.000 The story was terrifying.
02:10:52.000 80,000 people they slaughtered?
02:10:54.000 In four days and he said just the rivers of blood and the human sacrifice, I guess they would fatten people up in pens for days and weeks on end in order to sacrifice for like a brand new monument and just The concept of you being there fattened up with your family when you know you're just going to be used to have your heart pulled out of your body and shown. 1.00
02:11:12.000 Human beings are capable of some fucked up shit, dude. 0.99
02:11:15.000 And the crazy thing is, it's like, how did they go from the people that were so incredibly sophisticated that they built these... 1.00
02:11:22.000 Structures that were aligned to the cosmos and when they were aligned to they directly correlate a lot of them do with constellations like they understood the alignment of certain stars they understood the prediction of lunar eclipses like a thousand years in the future they had figured out so they had this incredible knowledge of astronomy and they they had figured out and and recorded a lot of like really incredible shit and yet they were killing 80,000 fucking people in a couple of days. 0.97
02:11:50.000 Light and dark always go together right? 0.93
02:11:52.000 Is that what it is?
02:11:53.000 I mean, I feel like it's...
02:11:56.000 I've been talking about this lately on stage, too, about the real problem with the nuclear bombs, that the guy who pressed the button never...
02:12:02.000 didn't build it, doesn't understand it, didn't create it, didn't invent nuclear explosions, didn't figure out how to split the atom, didn't construct the whole piece.
02:12:11.000 He doesn't...
02:12:12.000 Didn't see what radiation victims look like.
02:12:14.000 All he has to do is come along and press this button.
02:12:16.000 Oppenheimer, who worked on the Manhattan Project in New Mexico, he was...
02:12:19.000 He had big moral dilemmas about creating the atom bomb.
02:12:22.000 And he later died from cancer.
02:12:23.000 I think it was throat cancer from being radioactive when he was working on it.
02:12:27.000 But he really troubled his whole life.
02:12:30.000 Yeah, well, do you remember what he said?
02:12:31.000 He said when they tested the first nuclear bomb, the very first explosion, he quoted the Bhagavad Gita.
02:12:38.000 He said, I am become death, destroyer of worlds.
02:12:42.000 That's what he said, like, at the first, because he knew what he had done. 1.00
02:12:45.000 He's like, oh, shit. 0.99
02:12:47.000 He could have just slacked off for probably a few nights of work and not created it. 0.99
02:12:52.000 Well, see, the people who can create it would not be the people who created it.
02:12:58.000 The people who can create it would be the people who go...
02:13:00.000 You know, if you just understand how atoms work, if you got in there and split this and did this, you shouldn't do it. 0.56
02:13:08.000 But if you did, what you could do is you could fucking have the incredible destructive power. 0.92
02:13:11.000 Don't do it. 0.97
02:13:12.000 But if you wanted to do it, that's what you would do. 1.00
02:13:14.000 It's like the warrior or the general, the military man who would drop a fucking atomic bomb on a building on a city is way too fucking stupid to ever figure out how to make that thing. 1.00
02:13:27.000 It's like the mentality to figure out how to make... 1.00
02:13:30.000 An atomic bomb is completely different than the metallic that you would just drop one out of a plane.
02:13:35.000 Do you think Ahmadinejad, if he had a nuclear bomb, would launch out on Israel?
02:13:39.000 Or do you think even Ahmadinejad knows, I don't want to be the guy that does this destructive act?
02:13:43.000 This is what I think.
02:13:44.000 I think that when you have nuclear power or any sort of mass destructive power, it's a lot like the military equivalent of winning the lottery.
02:13:53.000 You didn't really earn that.
02:13:55.000 You just have it.
02:13:57.000 You just have it and you're gonna spend it.
02:13:59.000 And you're gonna spend it with no regard.
02:14:02.000 You're gonna spend it not knowing the consequences.
02:14:05.000 You're a child with a grown-up toy.
02:14:08.000 You haven't developed this thing.
02:14:10.000 You've just got access to it. 0.99
02:14:13.000 The same way some asshole who doesn't really understand cars Can somehow or another just go into a Chevy dealership and buy a Corvette ZR1 with 648 horsepower and just fucking stomp on it and slam it right into a tree? 1.00
02:14:26.000 That moron should have never had access to that kind of power or never have access to that kind of ability to move so quickly. 1.00
02:14:34.000 with his own decision making, he can decide whether or not to run the red lights and whether or not to just drive his car right into a fucking mall parking lot and smash into cars. 1.00
02:14:44.000 You can do anything you want when you have a Corvette. 1.00
02:14:46.000 You die, but if you could choose to just drive into traffic, if you're fucking crazy. 0.99
02:14:51.000 There's something weird about our ability in contrast to what we understand or what we have earned, the power that we've earned. 0.99
02:15:02.000 Like if you build a bow and arrow, okay, if you're a tribesman, you're out there in the woods, you build a bow and arrow, you craft it, and you develop your aim, and then you use it, and you hunt and kill an animal.
02:15:14.000 I mean, that's fair trade.
02:15:16.000 I mean, you've earned all of those steps.
02:15:20.000 You've really earned all those.
02:15:21.000 But if you drop a nuclear bomb in a lake and then start pulling out fish, we've got all the fish we need! 1.00
02:15:28.000 You're just some fucking asshole with a nuclear bomb. 1.00
02:15:31.000 You can't build one of those on your own. 1.00
02:15:35.000 That's why I've been told the best war leaders or the best generals are the ones who've come up through the ranks because they've seen combat.
02:15:42.000 They know what it means to send people onto a battlefield.
02:15:46.000 Whereas the guy who just went to West Point and never fired a shot in his life, it's easy for him to say, like, send in the troops because he doesn't know the direct consequences of that, right?
02:15:54.000 I think that's one of the reasons why they like people that get into office that aren't like Wesley Clark or aren't like John McCain.
02:16:03.000 People that...
02:16:04.000 You know, essentially they're chicken hogs. 0.82
02:16:06.000 Guys like George Bush, guys like Dick Cheney.
02:16:08.000 The ones who are the biggest warmongers are the ones who never experienced him personally.
02:16:12.000 You know, I think a guy like John McCain would be far more reluctant to use a military strategy knowing that there's boys out there that could have been just like him.
02:16:20.000 You know, a guy like Wesley Clark would certainly be far more reluctant to take, you know, the lives of these young soldiers for granted because at one point in time that was him.
02:16:34.000 Colin Powell was really good about that in the first Iraqi invasion because he had spent so long in Vietnam and he'd seen the mission creep there and like how it lasted forever and ever and he was really adamant.
02:16:43.000 It's just let's go in and get the hell out.
02:16:45.000 What's mission creep, Brian?
02:16:47.000 It's when you don't have a defined outcome of a mission.
02:16:50.000 You're not like we're gonna go in and do X, Y, and Z. We're gonna go in and wait until there's peace or we're gonna defeat terrorism and it's like there's no specific end to that mission.
02:17:01.000 It's happened in Afghanistan.
02:17:02.000 It's happened in Iraq.
02:17:04.000 Yeah, that's the idea that we're slowly empowering our bases out there and building up and that's what we're doing right now with Iran. 0.70
02:17:12.000 What we're doing with Iran is we're slowly moving battleships into that area and it's getting pretty scary. 1.00
02:17:18.000 Iran's a crazy unique case. 1.00
02:17:19.000 There's a website I want you to check out sometime called stratfor.com And they're really big into this thing called geopolitics, which is basically every nation is built on kind of their geography as well.
02:17:29.000 And they just talk about how Iraq's built up in a very mountainous way.
02:17:32.000 And it's in no one's interest to go in there because it's such a mess to do that.
02:17:35.000 And I hope we don't anyways because we don't really have any business doing that.
02:17:39.000 You mean Iran?
02:17:39.000 No, sorry, Iran.
02:17:40.000 Yeah, of course, Iran. 0.57
02:17:41.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
02:17:42.000 We don't have business doing it.
02:17:43.000 It's nuts.
02:17:44.000 They certainly shouldn't develop nuclear arms.
02:17:46.000 Who knows if they even are.
02:17:48.000 Who knows if they even are trying.
02:17:51.000 I assume they probably are, but it could be propaganda.
02:17:55.000 It could be just one of those things where we just need that area, that path to bring our oil through. 0.99
02:18:01.000 And that's supposedly what this whole fucking thing is about. 0.98
02:18:06.000 It's a great trump card. 0.99
02:18:07.000 I mean, North Korea has used this threat of a nuclear device to keep them alive for like 20 years, and they keep bargaining.
02:18:13.000 They're like, we're going to bargain this month, and then they don't.
02:18:15.000 But it's kept them kind of relevant, just having this one weapon.
02:18:17.000 So I think that's why countries want it.
02:18:19.000 The whole world's a mess. 1.00
02:18:20.000 I mean, real fuck. 1.00
02:18:22.000 It's a bit frustrating sometimes. 1.00
02:18:23.000 It really is.
02:18:24.000 Leave more podcasts. 0.99
02:18:25.000 Yeah, well, believe it or not, that sounds stupid, right? 0.99
02:18:28.000 Like, boy, how grandiose are we? 1.00
02:18:30.000 We think we're going to change the world?
02:18:31.000 The only way you can change the world is to influence young people. 0.97
02:18:34.000 So that the young people who go through the ranks don't imitate all the crusty old fuckheads that have been running things in these archaic ways because that's just the way things always were done. 0.85
02:18:44.000 And communication is super important. 0.93
02:18:45.000 Communication and access to information.
02:18:47.000 This is a different world.
02:18:49.000 This is not a world where you can bullshit people quite as easily. 0.63
02:18:51.000 Like if your ideas were going to the Iranian public and they listen to your podcast And similarly, maybe if there was a crazy Iranian podcast and we could listen to their leaders, I just think communicating would get us at least in the right direction.
02:19:03.000 Well, I bet my podcast does reach a lot of Iranians.
02:19:06.000 I bet it does.
02:19:06.000 And I bet there's a lot of Iranians who have their own podcast, just like London Real.
02:19:10.000 I gotta assume that this is not gonna stop here.
02:19:15.000 I think what's going on with podcasts and especially with the free ability to distribute information and to communicate, not even distribute information, but just even a talk on the internet to discuss things, to review things.
02:19:31.000 It's never existed like this before.
02:19:34.000 There's never been a time in human history where A guy could be doing something like my podcast in LA, and you guys in London could be listening to it when you're going jogging.
02:19:43.000 I mean, where the fuck has that been apart?
02:19:45.000 We get emails from people in Denmark. 0.94
02:19:47.000 Taiwan.
02:19:48.000 Us too, yeah.
02:19:49.000 Five years ago, we couldn't have done that.
02:19:51.000 It's cheap.
02:19:52.000 It's not hard to do. 0.97
02:19:53.000 It's not like we had to spend billions of dollars and put satellites in orbit and figure out how to get our message to people and it goes over on a fucking horseback and you've got to decipher it.
02:20:04.000 You've got to hire a local guy who speaks the language. 1.00
02:20:06.000 No, it's fucking easy as shit, man. 1.00
02:20:08.000 It's really easy. 1.00
02:20:09.000 And this is not going to change.
02:20:12.000 I think that...
02:20:12.000 You know what the crazy thing is?
02:20:13.000 The internet was originally the Department of Defense project and now it's going to bite them in the ass, right? 0.99
02:20:19.000 It's going to... 0.99
02:20:20.000 But it's not.
02:20:21.000 We need them still.
02:20:23.000 We need them still.
02:20:24.000 We just don't need them as a daddy.
02:20:26.000 Okay? 1.00
02:20:27.000 No man needs another man as a fucking daddy. 1.00
02:20:30.000 You know, what we need is camaraderie and we need community. 0.99
02:20:33.000 We need the government to rethink what they really are.
02:20:36.000 They are one of us.
02:20:37.000 We're all in this together.
02:20:39.000 It's not like the Stanford prison studies where they, you know, took...
02:20:44.000 College kids and they had some of them become guards and some become prisoners and you immediately see corruption and abuse.
02:20:50.000 It doesn't have to be prisoners and guards.
02:20:53.000 It shouldn't be, but that's what it is.
02:20:55.000 We have a government that's set up that's not a part of our community, that's not one of us.
02:21:00.000 We have instead people that are trying to tell us what to do or will lock you up. 0.98
02:21:04.000 And they suck at what they do. 1.00
02:21:06.000 They suck. 1.00
02:21:07.000 They're incompetent, and they're shitty at their job, so they like to hide. 1.00
02:21:10.000 They like to hide information. 1.00
02:21:12.000 They like to make it really hard for you to get a hold of anything that shows that they suck at their job. 0.81
02:21:17.000 And when you bust them sucking at their job, and you distribute that information, you become an enemy of the state, like WikiLeaks.
02:21:24.000 I mean, stop and think about what WikiLeaks has done. 0.58
02:21:27.000 WikiLeaks, in releasing that collateral murder video, let people know how calloused War can make regular good Americans and turn soldiers into people that don't care that innocent people got gunned down in the street and that make jokes and talk lightly about machine gunning vans filled with people, including children.
02:21:46.000 I mean, this is fact.
02:21:48.000 You watch that video.
02:21:49.000 It makes you feel bad for the guys who are shooting.
02:21:53.000 It makes you feel bad for the people on the ground.
02:21:55.000 The whole thing makes you feel bad because the whole thing is just off.
02:21:58.000 It's just wrong and crazy and not what we want when we think about the United States of America in a proud way.
02:22:06.000 We think of ourselves as being a noble country, a country filled with people that are rugged individuals that figured out a way to escape from the monarchy of England and come over here and do it on our own.
02:22:20.000 And this time we're going to have freedom and we're going to have the Constitution and we're going to make sure that we have rules in place so that corruption can...
02:22:27.000 And then you see just massive amounts of corruption.
02:22:29.000 And we were there 40, 50 years ago.
02:22:31.000 We had a guest on two weeks ago, and we talked about Islam.
02:22:36.000 He's a Muslim guy who lives in Britain.
02:22:38.000 He's from Pakistan.
02:22:38.000 And he was like, Brian, when I grew up in the early 80s, late 70s, I was like, we had all these wonderful ideas of what the U.S., it was something good.
02:22:45.000 Maybe we were also anti-Soviet at the time.
02:22:47.000 I don't know.
02:22:47.000 We also didn't have the Internet.
02:22:49.000 That's a big part of it.
02:22:50.000 We didn't know.
02:22:51.000 No one knew about...
02:22:51.000 You think people didn't know what we were doing?
02:22:53.000 Operation Northwoods, man.
02:22:54.000 That was in the 1960s.
02:22:55.000 In the 1960s, they were going to blow up airplanes and they were going to throw bombs and attack Guantanamo Bay.
02:23:04.000 And they were going to blame it on Cubans so that we could go to war with Cuba.
02:23:07.000 And that's a fact.
02:23:09.000 The Freedom of Information Act has released all the documents.
02:23:11.000 It wasn't a pipe dream.
02:23:12.000 It was signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
02:23:15.000 But do we have a less favorable view globally now, America, than, say, 30 years ago?
02:23:18.000 Yes, because of the internet.
02:23:19.000 Okay.
02:23:20.000 And because of the Iraq war.
02:23:21.000 The Iraq war in Afghanistan.
02:23:24.000 And the subsequent damage.
02:23:26.000 And then, of course, in other countries with the drone attacks.
02:23:29.000 And look, I don't know how much of a threat Al-Qaeda is.
02:23:33.000 I don't understand.
02:23:33.000 I'm not privy to that information.
02:23:35.000 They don't let us.
02:23:36.000 We don't get access to...
02:23:39.000 I don't know how many different attacks on America they've...
02:23:42.000 They haven't had a second successful attack since 9-11, which is crazy to think about.
02:23:46.000 It is crazy.
02:23:47.000 But it's also crazy that anybody wants to attack us in the first place.
02:23:50.000 Why are they mad?
02:23:51.000 And with George Bush, the only nonsense we ever got is, they hate our freedom. 1.00
02:23:55.000 And you're like, you motherfucker. 1.00
02:23:57.000 That's it? 1.00
02:23:57.000 They hate our freedom? 1.00
02:23:58.000 I always wonder if America as a sovereign entity, if it was actually attacked, which it's never really been on its own soil, except for 9-11, but that was, okay, two planes and a building.
02:24:07.000 All right, Hawaii.
02:24:07.000 All right, guys, you're killing me.
02:24:08.000 Would everyone bond together?
02:24:11.000 Or as you said earlier, is it a nation that's fragmented? 1.00
02:24:13.000 I mean, if Louisiana got attacked, would LA people be like, well, fuck you guys? 1.00
02:24:18.000 Or would you get drafted and sign your kids up to go and die to defend those borders? 1.00
02:24:22.000 That's a good question.
02:24:23.000 Well, after 9-11, what happened here was everywhere you go, you would see flags, American flags.
02:24:30.000 Within the first couple months after 9-11, everyone's car had a flag on it.
02:24:35.000 Yeah, Manhattan, too.
02:24:35.000 I was there.
02:24:36.000 It was trippy as fuck. 1.00
02:24:37.000 It was fucking nuts, man. 1.00
02:24:38.000 Especially in New York where everyone's an asshole. 1.00
02:24:41.000 You talk about it. 1.00
02:24:42.000 It's one place where people are just, but they were friendly all of a sudden, right?
02:24:45.000 It was weird.
02:24:46.000 In a creepy way?
02:24:47.000 It was weird.
02:24:47.000 It was real weird.
02:24:48.000 I remember going to New York.
02:24:49.000 We went maybe a year after September 11th, and it was still reverberating.
02:24:55.000 It was the ripples and aftershocks of 9-11.
02:24:58.000 People were way nicer than they'd ever been before.
02:25:00.000 Way more friendly, way more humble, way more respectful for law enforcement and firefighters.
02:25:06.000 They were really respectful to law enforcement.
02:25:08.000 But it didn't last.
02:25:08.000 But it's not human for it to last.
02:25:09.000 Maybe we need to look at that on a global scale for us to pull together as a species. 1.00
02:25:12.000 Maybe an asteroid does need to hit the earth and a quarter of the population has to die so we all go, fuck in hell, we need each other. 1.00
02:25:18.000 We've got to stop being cunts to each other. 1.00
02:25:19.000 It's unfortunate that in this model of civilization it doesn't seem like there's any other way for us to learn other than shit falling apart. 0.99
02:25:26.000 It's not like we can just look at things and say, hey, listen, Obviously, we're doing this wrong and we're going to have to figure out how to do it right. 0.96
02:25:34.000 And in the process of figuring out how to do things right, there's a lot of shit that's going to go away. 0.81
02:25:38.000 And one of the things is people who have billions of dollars. 0.99
02:25:40.000 You're not going to have billions of dollars anymore because your money is nonsense. 0.99
02:25:44.000 Your money is basically a bunch of fucking things that are in a bank somewhere. 0.99
02:25:48.000 And instead, what we've got to seek to do is we've got to seek to have a resource-based economy, a real resource-based economy. 0.99
02:25:56.000 Then we've got to figure out who owns these resources and how should these resources really be distributed? 0.99
02:26:01.000 Should somebody be able to camp in front of a diamond hole in the earth and say, this is my fucking hole! 0.99
02:26:07.000 These are my diamonds! 0.99
02:26:08.000 It's like John Fresco's Long Lost Sun.
02:26:11.000 Do you really own those diamonds?
02:26:12.000 Do you really own that gold?
02:26:14.000 Do you really own that oil well?
02:26:16.000 Who's to say that these resources are yours?
02:26:21.000 Should it not be that the resources are what powers our economy?
02:26:25.000 Should it not be that the resources instead are what powers our government and that no one really owns them and that they're distributed to all the people that claim the earth as their home? 0.76
02:26:36.000 And that sounds crazy, hippie, nonsense, socialist. 0.89
02:26:40.000 But the reality is, you shouldn't be able to fucking build a giant machine and park it 10 miles off Louisiana in the middle of the ocean and just suck billions of dollars out of the earth and then not give any of that back. 0.99
02:26:54.000 And then say, this is all ours. 0.97
02:26:55.000 We're getting all right. 0.99
02:26:56.000 We're sucking it all. 0.99
02:26:57.000 You're draining the earth like a giant mosquito bat vampire thing. 1.00
02:27:01.000 No accountability.
02:27:01.000 When you put Not only no accountability, you're making money off the earth.
02:27:06.000 Billions of dollars.
02:27:07.000 And you're making it off the earth in international waters.
02:27:10.000 Or you're making it in national waters.
02:27:12.000 Or you're making it in a bay. 1.00
02:27:14.000 Who the fuck is... 1.00
02:27:15.000 Why is that yours? 1.00
02:27:16.000 Like, what's yours? 0.98
02:27:17.000 Because you got a contract to build this giant sucking machine. 0.93
02:27:21.000 And where's that money going? 0.73
02:27:23.000 That's a lot of money. 0.99
02:27:24.000 You can control a lot of shit with that money. 0.99
02:27:25.000 You're making billions and billions and billions of dollars off of oil money. 1.00
02:27:29.000 Man. 0.99
02:27:30.000 Man, you know what kind of fucking power you have to buy lobbyists? 1.00
02:27:33.000 You know what kind of power you have to influence legislation? 1.00
02:27:37.000 You have a lot of fucking power. 0.99
02:27:39.000 Imagine if you could zero out all the bank accounts in the world. 1.00
02:27:42.000 Look at that scene in Fight Club at the end.
02:27:43.000 It is.
02:27:44.000 And when we had the financial crisis in London in 2008, apparently RBS, one of the banks at Royal Bank of Scotland, they were one day away from shutting off the ATM machines.
02:27:53.000 And they were saying, if you've ever thought of a food riot, if you can think of people not being able to touch their money...
02:27:59.000 Oh my god.
02:28:00.000 Apparently it was just, yeah.
02:28:01.000 I mean, that would be some mayhem.
02:28:03.000 Yeah, that would be some mayhem.
02:28:04.000 And, you know, it's happened in little small doses with the collapse of, in America, it's happened a bunch.
02:28:09.000 There's a savings and loan collapse that George Bush's son was involved in that was a huge scandal that, you know, cost people millions and millions of dollars.
02:28:18.000 A lot of people's personal fortunes were completely erased.
02:28:20.000 Their entire life, Vinnie Pazienza, the boxer, he lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
02:28:26.000 Just gone!
02:28:27.000 Disappeared!
02:28:27.000 Sorry we don't have it anymore.
02:28:28.000 And that's what a part of this financial bailout was in this country.
02:28:34.000 The most recent one was trying to avoid something like that happening with all these big banks failing.
02:28:40.000 But at the end of the day, if you're going to have a society that is well-designed, you can't use an infrastructure that is not well-designed and maintain it. 0.99
02:28:52.000 The structure that we have now is so fucked up and corrupt and crazy. 0.98
02:28:57.000 The cracks are starting to show as well. 1.00
02:28:59.000 Yeah, it's like having a giant building made out of cardboard.
02:29:03.000 Instead of just acknowledging it, you're just throwing duct tape up everywhere it starts to separate.
02:29:08.000 We've got to figure out a way for it to be a society that makes sense.
02:29:14.000 The only way that's going to happen is you've got to restructure finance.
02:29:20.000 You've got to restructure what money really is.
02:29:23.000 You've got to restructure how much money and how much people get paid to do certain jobs. 1.00
02:29:31.000 Most people are fucking slaves. 1.00
02:29:33.000 They're just slaves with a... 1.00
02:29:35.000 They have a loose collar on.
02:29:37.000 They're slaves because of... 0.87
02:29:38.000 And, you know, by the way, that's your choice.
02:29:40.000 You cannot do that.
02:29:42.000 You can...
02:29:42.000 I agree with all that.
02:29:44.000 You know, you cannot be burdened by, you know, a home and mortgage and finances and, you know, car payments and all that stuff.
02:29:53.000 But you know what would really be better? 0.99
02:29:56.000 How about if you do actually work all day, you get paid enough so that you could save money and you don't have to worry about shit. 0.95
02:30:05.000 You get paid enough so that you don't have to worry about being constantly in debt. 0.90
02:30:10.000 The idea of owning a house shouldn't be out of someone's reach. 0.93
02:30:12.000 It should be fairly fucking acquirable. 0.91
02:30:15.000 That would make a lot more sense. 0.98
02:30:17.000 We just live in this really corrupt system of loans and interest and Just nonsense, number shuffling and craziness.
02:30:28.000 I just don't know how we're going to get there without blood everywhere.
02:30:31.000 You're right.
02:30:31.000 I don't know either.
02:30:32.000 Or massive enlightenment.
02:30:35.000 And that massive enlightenment, look, something happened for sure during the 60s.
02:30:41.000 And a lot of people attribute it to psychedelic drugs.
02:30:44.000 The music changed, the culture changed, the society changed.
02:30:48.000 I listened to The Doors recently.
02:30:49.000 That's a big leap from Buddy Holly, man.
02:30:52.000 Something happened.
02:30:54.000 And that was a media forum back then.
02:30:55.000 I was on Nick the other day.
02:30:56.000 How do you spread a message without the internet? 1.00
02:30:58.000 You do it over music and you listen to Morrison's lyrics and you're like, oh shit. 1.00
02:31:01.000 Changed kids. 1.00
02:31:01.000 Changed kids. 1.00
02:31:02.000 That's one of the big things.
02:31:03.000 You're right.
02:31:04.000 The closest thing to Joe back in the day in the 60s and 70s is you know that Black Sabbath song, War Pigs?
02:31:11.000 Red Van, can you pull that up?
02:31:13.000 Just a message through the music.
02:31:16.000 But you're always talking about get the kids to change first.
02:31:18.000 Is that your only...
02:31:19.000 Everybody, man.
02:31:20.000 Everybody that I talk to that comes up to me and says, Dude, this podcast has changed my life.
02:31:24.000 You changed the way I look at things, changed the way I approach my life.
02:31:26.000 I realize that this is not a permanent experience.
02:31:29.000 This is supposed to be a ride, an enjoyable time, a finite time that I can manage.
02:31:36.000 And if I just stick to a certain amount of principles...
02:31:39.000 A certain series of principles, rather.
02:31:42.000 Go towards what you love.
02:31:43.000 Actually do what you want to do.
02:31:44.000 Be nice to people.
02:31:46.000 Have a close-knit circle of friends.
02:31:48.000 Love them as if you love yourself.
02:31:50.000 To really move in that direction is possible for all of us.
02:31:54.000 And that's the way you change the world. 0.97
02:31:57.000 The way you change the world is you change the way people look at things so that nobody wants to be the big cunt in charge. 1.00
02:32:03.000 Because the big cunt in charge leaves a shit life. 1.00
02:32:06.000 We live in a world where when kids get crazy and they make a lot of noise and they're fucking hard to deal with, people give these kids antidepressants. 1.00
02:32:16.000 They give them Ritalin. 1.00
02:32:17.000 They give them all kinds of different crazy shit. 1.00
02:32:20.000 Then when they get to be adults, then they're even more fucked up and sad and disconnected with their shitty lives. 1.00
02:32:26.000 So then we give them antidepressants. 0.99
02:32:28.000 We give them more things to help them get over this little mental hump. 1.00
02:32:33.000 Then their dick stops working. 1.00
02:32:35.000 What do they do? 1.00
02:32:36.000 Well, we come up, we got Cialis and Viagra and Levitra and all sorts of pills that make your dick hard. 0.99
02:32:41.000 Well, you know, this stuff isn't helping me anymore. 0.98
02:32:46.000 Oh, we got some other stuff that you add on to your antidepressant.
02:32:50.000 You take this as well as that, and this is really going to put you over the top, and that's really going to make you happy.
02:32:54.000 And we constantly keep...
02:32:56.000 Looking for some sort of a chemical fix for depression and for the lack of good feelings in this life.
02:33:06.000 And I think that there's certainly people that have mental imbalances and they are helped by pharmaceutical drugs, by antidepressants.
02:33:15.000 But that notwithstanding, there's also people...
02:33:18.000 That are getting a very bad signal from their life because they're living a life that is non-harmonious.
02:33:24.000 It's not fun.
02:33:25.000 It's not filled with love and joy.
02:33:27.000 They're not pursuing their true interests. 0.97
02:33:30.000 And everybody's interest is fucking different.
02:33:32.000 And our natural state is to be joyful and calm and happy. 0.72
02:33:35.000 And if you look at all those stories of when people encounter most indigenous cultures, Everyone's cool.
02:33:41.000 You know what I mean?
02:33:41.000 There's also people that love to be depressed.
02:33:44.000 There's people that revel in depression, take pride in depression.
02:33:47.000 Unfortunately, people that have criticized me for talking about depression. 1.00
02:33:50.000 Even on my own message board, some fucking dummies wrote some stupid shit. 1.00
02:33:53.000 It was so poorly thought out listening. 1.00
02:33:57.000 Does anybody get furious when you hear Joe talk about depression?
02:34:01.000 Because if you understand... 1.00
02:34:02.000 You don't think I've been depressed before, stupid? 1.00
02:34:04.000 Everybody's been depressed before. 1.00
02:34:06.000 People don't know that you have, though, because you're always so positive.
02:34:08.000 Well, it took a long time to get positive.
02:34:10.000 I've had really awkward social moments, really dark moments of terrible feelings that lasted months and months.
02:34:17.000 We all have.
02:34:19.000 Was there anything in particular that got you through it? 1.00
02:34:23.000 Pussy! 1.00
02:34:24.000 That helps, certainly. 1.00
02:34:25.000 But then that can be a source of even more depression if you get a hold of a bad one.
02:34:30.000 What do you tell people?
02:34:32.000 People are always asking you for answers.
02:34:33.000 I know you don't want to be the guy.
02:34:34.000 You're like, I'm not the guy trying to tell you answers.
02:34:35.000 Well, I can tell you what I've learned.
02:34:37.000 What do you tell people?
02:34:37.000 You can never tell people what to do, but you can tell people what helped you.
02:34:40.000 And you can tell people what has aided you and where you were going wrong and how you saw it and corrected it.
02:34:47.000 A big part of life has got to be the way you interact with human beings, the happiness that you derive from friendships, the happiness that you derive from doing things together, and also from creating things.
02:35:03.000 Whether it's creating carpentry or art.
02:35:06.000 We are some weird animal that constantly seeks to use the imagination to make physical things manifest themselves.
02:35:13.000 Whether it's physical things in terms of something you can read online or something you can watch as in a video podcast.
02:35:20.000 Whatever it is, we have this massive amount of satisfaction that we get out of making things. 0.97
02:35:26.000 Because we're some weird fucking bee thing. 0.98
02:35:29.000 We're some weird insect that's making a hive. 1.00
02:35:31.000 We're just making this super complicated hive that's connected by billions and billions of other little fucking weird pink monkeys. 1.00
02:35:39.000 Or brown monkeys and black monkeys and yellow monkeys. 0.98
02:35:42.000 And we're all putting it all together.
02:35:44.000 And we don't know what it is.
02:35:46.000 We all are responsible for our own little piece of this crazy machine called culture and civilization. 0.98
02:35:51.000 We don't know what the fuck we're doing. 0.74
02:35:53.000 But clearly we're all working together in some weird form. 0.97
02:35:57.000 And you can accept that and you can choose to be depressed.
02:36:02.000 You can choose to live an ineffective, inefficient, non-harmonious life because it's going to make your mother-in-law happy and keep your marriage together.
02:36:14.000 Or you can, you know, seek silence and calmness and truly examine your situation and then slowly try to turn that boat around.
02:36:24.000 Slowly try to turn that battleship towards where it needs to go.
02:36:28.000 I think Ari Shaffir said one time, he said, start with the people in your daily life.
02:36:32.000 He's like, be nice to the waiter and be nice to this person.
02:36:35.000 And, you know, it can start really simple. 1.00
02:36:37.000 That's my shit. 1.00
02:36:38.000 Drop happiness bombs. 1.00
02:36:40.000 Yeah, I'm going to start doing this.
02:36:41.000 You can do it.
02:36:41.000 It helps life.
02:36:42.000 It puts forth more positive energy. 0.98
02:36:46.000 And that sounds like hippy-dippy bullshit, but it puts forth better feelings. 0.99
02:36:50.000 You feel better about the day. 0.99
02:36:51.000 And I think when you feel better about the day, you think better about the future.
02:36:56.000 You respond better to other people.
02:36:58.000 You set this ball in motion.
02:37:01.000 And when you make someone feel better, then they make someone else feel better.
02:37:04.000 Like... 0.93
02:37:04.000 You know, if Ari sees me tip people or be nice and then he says, I'm gonna fucking do that too. 0.93
02:37:08.000 And then you hear about that and you say, I'm gonna do that too.
02:37:10.000 And when that happens and someone hearing this says, that's how I'm gonna do it.
02:37:14.000 That is just ripples and ripples of positive reactions.
02:37:18.000 Collectively it can raise our collective consciousness ultimately.
02:37:21.000 As much if not more than anything that's ever existed in human history.
02:37:25.000 The biggest bursts of change that have ever come forth in human history are nothing compared to the reactions that people are gonna get to the free access Of information and content that the internet has.
02:37:36.000 The impact of the 60s ain't shit compared to the impacts of the 2000s and the 2010s and 20s.
02:37:43.000 It's going to be logarithmically expanding. 0.97
02:37:47.000 We can't even wrap our heads around where it's going and that's why the government is panicking. 0.95
02:37:53.000 That's why they're building this giant NSA spy fucking cabin in Utah, one of the biggest, most expensive projects the government's ever undertaken. 0.99
02:38:03.000 No money for Neil deGrasse Tyson's gigantic telescope to see the beginning of time, but they've got plenty of money to build a huge building to store every fucking email you've ever written, to take everybody's laptop fucking camera and turn it on to watch you beating off and Store it and put it in some fucking database somewhere. 0.98
02:38:23.000 And you think that's a joke, but it's not. 0.97
02:38:26.000 It's true. 1.00
02:38:26.000 Your fucking cell phone is basically a giant GPS tracking device. 1.00
02:38:31.000 That's all it is. 1.00
02:38:31.000 It's scary, you know. 1.00
02:38:32.000 Before I forget, I just want to offer up London Real Studios for you guys.
02:38:35.000 If you're ever in town...
02:38:37.000 To use as your studios if you want.
02:38:39.000 That would be dope.
02:38:41.000 If we're ever in England for a UFC, that's when I usually come over.
02:38:44.000 Obviously, we'd love you guys on the show, but if you ever want to just use the studios, I reckon you might be able to get the queen on your show.
02:38:50.000 You guys got enough juice. 0.99
02:38:52.000 Maybe you can get some crazy people that are in England or in Europe or some shit. 0.99
02:38:54.000 I could get Prince Harry. 0.99
02:38:55.000 You're one of those dudes.
02:38:56.000 Is Prince Harry...
02:38:57.000 Is that a prince or is that one of the Hogley Warts guys?
02:38:59.000 He's a prince.
02:39:00.000 He's a real one?
02:39:00.000 He's a prince, yeah.
02:39:01.000 I never know who's from...
02:39:03.000 Dude, London's a trippy place, man.
02:39:04.000 What is that show?
02:39:05.000 What's the movie again?
02:39:06.000 Harry Potter.
02:39:07.000 Harry Potter.
02:39:07.000 I never know if it's from Harry Potter or real.
02:39:09.000 He's real.
02:39:10.000 But a red band shirt.
02:39:11.000 It says, keep calm and carry on on the front of his shirt.
02:39:14.000 And that pretty much says a lot about Britain.
02:39:17.000 I mean, Nick and I, we're actually foreigners, which is crazy.
02:39:20.000 And we started a show called London Real.
02:39:21.000 I mean, I'm American.
02:39:22.000 He's South African.
02:39:23.000 What brought you guys to England?
02:39:25.000 I went for Bizzo, you know, ten years ago for finance, and what'd you go for?
02:39:29.000 Yeah, I wanted to train jiu-jitsu.
02:39:31.000 I'm under, like, someone high level, so I went to train with Roger, right?
02:39:34.000 Nice.
02:39:34.000 So you moved to England for Hodger Gracie.
02:39:36.000 Is it Hodger or Roger?
02:39:38.000 Some people call him Hodger.
02:39:38.000 I asked him on the show, and he said either.
02:39:40.000 The jiu-jitsu guys, the Brazilians guy, they all say Hodger. 0.99
02:39:43.000 Yeah, you know, he's a scary guy, my friend.
02:39:48.000 He's got the perfect jujitsu body too, those long limbs, you know?
02:39:51.000 Dude, he's a big, tall guy.
02:39:52.000 I was surprised when he came over.
02:39:54.000 I was like, I forgot how tall he was.
02:39:55.000 Were you shocked when he got knocked out by King Mo?
02:39:57.000 Yeah, I asked him about it on the show, but I was surprised.
02:40:00.000 But then again, like you said, on any day, King Mo's got some power.
02:40:04.000 That's what's scary about wrestlers, too.
02:40:06.000 If a wrestler develops knockout power, the odds of you getting him down is kind of small.
02:40:12.000 It's going to be hard to get a wrestler down. 0.99
02:40:13.000 Jiu-jitsu guys versus wrestlers are always a weird sort of combination because if the jiu-jitsu guy can't get the wrestler down and the wrestler guy is like a...
02:40:22.000 A Chuck Liddell guy, it's bad for the jiu-jitsu guy.
02:40:25.000 But if the jiu-jitsu guy can get the wrestler guy down, a lot of times wrestlers have some bad habits.
02:40:30.000 Off their back, they're not as good.
02:40:33.000 It's interesting, but that King Mo fight shows you a wrestler with some serious power like King Mo.
02:40:39.000 That's a dangerous guy.
02:40:40.000 It's a dangerous guy to fight if you're trying to take the fight to the ground.
02:40:43.000 It's weird.
02:40:44.000 I asked Roger why he's in London because he's a Brazilian guy.
02:40:46.000 He thinks it's the last place he'd want to go.
02:40:47.000 The land of rain.
02:40:49.000 They say bad food.
02:40:50.000 London has some good food, man.
02:40:51.000 It's great food.
02:40:52.000 You've got to know where to go.
02:40:52.000 That was like an old Bill Hicks joke.
02:40:53.000 You don't boil pizza.
02:40:55.000 I did a whole bit about London's food being bad. 0.98
02:40:57.000 I'm like, you're crazy.
02:40:58.000 The Indian food there is sensational. 0.73
02:41:00.000 We've had some great Chinese food there.
02:41:03.000 What do you guys think when you go to London?
02:41:04.000 What does it feel?
02:41:05.000 Weird?
02:41:06.000 I love it.
02:41:06.000 I love London.
02:41:07.000 I love the people.
02:41:08.000 I think there's so much competitive craziness in America. 0.99
02:41:13.000 And there's so much just arrogance in the American attitude, which is, you know, one of the things that sort of built, yeah, made it as fucking nutty as it is. 0.97
02:41:24.000 But it also makes it just exhausting. 0.96
02:41:26.000 I feel it a bit just landing here from London.
02:41:28.000 It was like we're on Mars and I walk around.
02:41:30.000 I'm staying in Venice Beach and there is like a little bit of an aggression level high.
02:41:34.000 Well, it's not that everywhere.
02:41:36.000 We were in North Carolina.
02:41:37.000 We were in Asheville this past weekend.
02:41:39.000 We did Raleigh Friday and Asheville Saturday. 0.99
02:41:42.000 And Asheville is a goddamn gem of a town. 0.99
02:41:46.000 It's a small town. 0.99
02:41:48.000 And everybody's walking on the streets and, you know, we didn't even think about it.
02:41:53.000 Like, where is this restaurant?
02:41:54.000 Oh, three blocks up and to the right.
02:41:55.000 And we're all just walking.
02:41:56.000 And everybody else is walking.
02:41:57.000 People walk everywhere.
02:41:58.000 And I'm like, that's missing in LA. It's completely missing.
02:42:03.000 In LA, nobody walks anywhere.
02:42:05.000 You need to have face-to-face contact.
02:42:07.000 Like the tube in London, which is the underground, you see people face-to-face, you know, and you're constantly interacting with them, seeing these crazy women wearing burqas or some lady from Somalia, and you're smelling them and seeing them. 1.00
02:42:18.000 People are just more polite there, too.
02:42:20.000 It's almost super polite.
02:42:21.000 Matter of fact, you say sorry first.
02:42:23.000 I mean, I've heard there 10 years now, and the first thing you say is sorry.
02:42:26.000 It's really annoying when you're here.
02:42:27.000 No, it's not.
02:42:28.000 It's beautiful.
02:42:28.000 It's just, you know, it's setting forth good intentions right away.
02:42:32.000 My buddy has a theory.
02:42:34.000 America is such a huge landmass that it's not ever that densely populated if you compare it to Tokyo or London where we're on this tiny little island.
02:42:44.000 What happens is in places like that where it's so densely populated people are forced to be They're forced to learn to be able to live on top of each other and be nicer to each other because there's nowhere out.
02:42:53.000 I would agree with you except for New York. 0.99
02:42:55.000 New York's filled with cunts. 1.00
02:42:57.000 They're stacked on top of each other. 1.00
02:42:59.000 Hurling shit like chimpanzees. 1.00
02:43:01.000 I lived there for a few years and now it's too much for me. 1.00
02:43:04.000 I hear what you're saying, but no.
02:43:07.000 I think it has to do with why people came here in the first place. 0.95
02:43:11.000 The ripples, the first ripples of intention of the people that landed, they were crazy. 0.82
02:43:16.000 They were people who were so bold, they got on a boat and sailed for months across the fucking ocean to some place they hadn't even seen in a video because video wasn't invented. 0.97
02:43:26.000 They were loasters. 0.98
02:43:28.000 That's 10 minute warning.
02:43:30.000 One thing about London I find is that there are years behind the technology curve.
02:43:33.000 I know in LA so many people have podcasts and And maybe in New York, it's probably lagged a couple years.
02:43:38.000 But in London, I mean, we tell people about London Real, and it's like it's a podcast, and they'll be like, it's a what?
02:43:42.000 There's just not a lot of people there yet.
02:43:45.000 That's interesting, but I think that'll change.
02:43:47.000 It'll catch up.
02:43:47.000 I mean, it's not like you don't have access to computers and an internet connection.
02:43:50.000 Microphones, you could always buy them.
02:43:53.000 You guys will lead the way.
02:43:54.000 You'll be the ones.
02:43:55.000 It's new, though.
02:43:56.000 At first, you show people, okay, we have a show for an hour, and then they try to watch it like Game of Thrones for an hour.
02:44:00.000 It's like, well, it's not like that.
02:44:02.000 Yeah.
02:44:03.000 Well, you know, we have a lot of people who do live shows here, and I don't like those.
02:44:08.000 They do them in front of audiences.
02:44:09.000 Yeah, when Maren does that in front of an audience, I just turn it off, because it always feels like...
02:44:13.000 It's different vibes.
02:44:14.000 Are they trying to cater to the audience, and then they're not talking to me?
02:44:16.000 They're faking it.
02:44:17.000 Trying to ham it up a little bit? 0.98
02:44:18.000 Yeah, you are aware, no doubt, that 50,000 fucking whatever it is in the audience, you know, guys have done them with thousands of people. 0.97
02:44:27.000 I know Carolla does, like, 1,000 seats. 0.98
02:44:29.000 It's crazy.
02:44:31.000 It's not my thing, man.
02:44:33.000 It's a weird vibe.
02:44:33.000 It's not the right sort of a vibe, I think, for podcasts.
02:44:37.000 It's a different thing.
02:44:40.000 Norton's great at it.
02:44:41.000 Norton's really good at doing it.
02:44:42.000 He turns it up.
02:44:44.000 Do you think we should go live?
02:44:46.000 We don't have a live format, but it's effectively live because we don't edit in one hour.
02:44:50.000 I was curious.
02:44:50.000 I mean, you guys do everything live.
02:44:51.000 Yeah, live is good. 0.99
02:44:52.000 You can do whatever the fuck you want, man. 0.99
02:44:53.000 It doesn't matter. 0.99
02:44:54.000 Try it out.
02:44:54.000 See if you like it.
02:44:55.000 I thought I would love it, but I hated it.
02:44:57.000 You hate it.
02:44:57.000 You still hate it.
02:44:58.000 No, no, no.
02:44:59.000 He's not saying in front of an audience.
02:45:01.000 He's saying live.
02:45:01.000 Oh, yeah.
02:45:02.000 Absolutely.
02:45:03.000 Yeah.
02:45:04.000 Well, it's pretty authentic.
02:45:06.000 Everything we've said in this has been live.
02:45:10.000 It's already been consumed. 1.00
02:45:10.000 Who knows how many fucking people? 1.00
02:45:11.000 How many people are listening to this, Brian? 1.00
02:45:13.000 I don't know.
02:45:15.000 Come on, you know.
02:45:15.000 How do you know the numbers?
02:45:16.000 How many people do watch your show?
02:45:18.000 All together?
02:45:19.000 We don't know.
02:45:21.000 Millions?
02:45:22.000 Yeah, it's definitely millions.
02:45:24.000 We're also on Sirius Radio.
02:45:24.000 Right now we have 2,300.
02:45:26.000 Yeah, I mean, just our Ustream page has 11,454,000 views.
02:45:32.000 Just our Ustream page.
02:45:34.000 And way more.
02:45:35.000 Like he said, there's only 2,000 people watching at a time.
02:45:38.000 The most, I think earlier, it was probably close to 3,000.
02:45:41.000 The most we've ever had was maybe 9,000 or 10,000 at once watching it.
02:45:45.000 Yeah, but the real numbers are in audible downloads, audio downloads, mp3 downloads.
02:45:51.000 That's where it gets crazy.
02:45:52.000 Can we drop our info if people want to come check us out?
02:45:55.000 The website's londonreal.tv.
02:45:59.000 We're on Twitter, at London Real TV. And you can always check our YouTube channel, which is London Real TV as a channel.
02:46:05.000 Or just type London Real into Google, man.
02:46:06.000 You'll find us.
02:46:07.000 And also, guys, I have a jiu-jitsu site called Jiu-Jitsu Brotherhood.
02:46:10.000 That's all one word.
02:46:11.000 I discuss my philosophy.
02:46:13.000 It's jiu-jitsubrotherhood.com.
02:46:15.000 Just talk about my style of jiu-jitsu.
02:46:17.000 Everything's free on there.
02:46:18.000 You can go check it out as well if you have a chance.
02:46:20.000 Beautiful.
02:46:20.000 Beautiful.
02:46:21.000 If anybody wants to start a podcast in any city around the world, if you've got questions, you can email, message us, call us.
02:46:27.000 We'll be happy to help.
02:46:27.000 I'd love to see more of these things.
02:46:29.000 You don't have to call it real. 0.98
02:46:30.000 You can call it whatever the fuck you want. 0.99
02:46:32.000 And maybe in one year from today, you can be on Joe's show. 0.99
02:46:35.000 Yeah, easily. 1.00
02:46:36.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
02:46:36.000 I'll have anybody on. 1.00
02:46:38.000 And I think that's what it's all about, right?
02:46:40.000 I think it's all about encouraging other people to carry this on.
02:46:44.000 And you guys are doing it the perfect way.
02:46:47.000 It's beautiful to watch.
02:46:48.000 I enjoyed watching your show.
02:46:50.000 I enjoyed listening to it, listening to your conversations with Graham Hancock and Simon and a bunch of other ones I've seen, too.
02:46:57.000 It's awesome, and I hope that you guys spawn a million others, and it continues on.
02:47:02.000 Got to pay it forward, right?
02:47:03.000 Yeah, I think that really is. 0.88
02:47:05.000 It sounds so fucking corny and grandiose, but I think that really is the way to change the world. 0.83
02:47:10.000 The way to change the world is to let people know how you've changed, and then it branches out. 0.96
02:47:15.000 It ripples.
02:47:16.000 It has this massive sort of snowball effect, and it just grows, and If there's any way that we can improve our world, it's improving the way the other people around us see it and approach it. 0.83
02:47:30.000 This thing might be ridiculous.
02:47:32.000 It might be just one frame in an infinite movie that goes on forever.
02:47:36.000 For a lot of people that get really sad about that and say, well, wow, that's so pointless.
02:47:43.000 What's the point? 0.94
02:47:44.000 But it's happening right now, and I'm enjoying the fuck out of it. 0.97
02:47:48.000 If it is happening right now, if this is really one fucking step in an infinite number of steps, and it's just a life cycle that will repeat itself again, and you're going to be a baby again in 50 years, guess what? 0.99
02:47:59.000 I'm having a great fucking time. 0.98
02:48:00.000 It's fun as fuck to do this stuff. 0.99
02:48:01.000 And if I can figure out a way... 0.93
02:48:03.000 To somehow or another transfer this energy into my next life, I'll have a great time in that life too.
02:48:08.000 I didn't always have a great time in this life, and I don't know what that's from.
02:48:12.000 I don't know if reincarnation's real.
02:48:16.000 I don't know if this is a one-time shot and everything else is just your ego trying to protect itself from the inevitable doom of the spirit which dies just like the body does.
02:48:25.000 I don't know.
02:48:26.000 I don't know.
02:48:27.000 We're all going to know one day though, right?
02:48:28.000 Maybe.
02:48:29.000 I'm not sure of that either. 0.77
02:48:30.000 Well, we're all going to die.
02:48:31.000 I don't even know if that's real.
02:48:32.000 I'm not convinced. 0.98
02:48:34.000 This whole thing might be a fucking dream within a dream within a dream. 0.98
02:48:38.000 It might be a PlayStation 7 game, right? 0.99
02:48:40.000 Wrapped up in chocolate sauce and pumped into your veins through a pot cookie that Brian Redband handed you when you went out the door.
02:48:47.000 No cookies.
02:48:48.000 No cookies, Nick.
02:48:49.000 But I think what's made it fun for me is to have these kind of conversations.
02:48:54.000 It's really made life more enjoyable.
02:48:57.000 And I know that you guys are positively influencing a lot of people.
02:49:01.000 And I know this show is, and all of our friends are.
02:49:04.000 And I think that's what's up.
02:49:07.000 I think that's something that we've all locked into.
02:49:11.000 Most of us unexpectedly sort of stumbled into it, but that's...
02:49:14.000 Also, I think that's the right way it's supposed to go down.
02:49:16.000 The universe has a plan for all this, and we're little strange monkeys.
02:49:22.000 We follow the plan, and if you're resonating the right frequency, if you have the right intent, I think that plan turns out the way this one's turned out.
02:49:31.000 I think it's good.
02:49:32.000 It's helping everybody.
02:49:33.000 It's awesome. 0.99
02:49:34.000 London Real, bitches! 1.00
02:49:35.000 Thanks, Joe, so much. 0.99
02:49:36.000 That's what's up!
02:49:36.000 Joe, thanks so much.
02:49:37.000 So they can find you guys on Twitter, London Real TV on Twitter.
02:49:41.000 Do you have individual Twitter accounts?
02:49:42.000 Nah, we just roll as a team.
02:49:44.000 Do we have small ones?
02:49:45.000 We're like husband and wife.
02:49:45.000 We have small ones?
02:49:46.000 Yeah, I know.
02:49:47.000 Dude, we're like, we bicker at each other.
02:49:49.000 It's like crazy. 1.00
02:49:49.000 Just wait until one of you actually gets married and starts having kids and you'll have some fucking problems. 1.00
02:49:53.000 Oh, and that offer goes out. 0.99
02:49:54.000 Then you have the wife come in and do three podcasts. 1.00
02:49:56.000 They'll be like, are you really going to podcast with him again today?
02:50:00.000 God, you guys did one a couple of days ago.
02:50:02.000 How about you go back to 108?
02:50:03.000 No, I don't tolerate that, son.
02:50:05.000 I keep the pimp hands strong in my household.
02:50:10.000 Me, Tarzan, and you, Jane.
02:50:12.000 That's how I roll. 1.00
02:50:13.000 For life, bitches. 1.00
02:50:14.000 Hey, can I promote the Death Squad show? 1.00
02:50:16.000 Oh shit, yeah. 0.98
02:50:17.000 November 10th, me, Brendan Walsh, and Tony Henchcliffe are coming to Columbus, Ohio at the Woodlands Tavern. 0.99
02:50:23.000 It's on brownpapertickets.com to search for Death Squad.
02:50:26.000 And we're going to have a couple more days.
02:50:28.000 And there's a special surprise guest that I'm not allowed to say who's joining us. 0.99
02:50:31.000 Oh, shit. 0.99
02:50:32.000 Special surprise guest. 0.99
02:50:34.000 And that is all.
02:50:35.000 You can get that information also at deathsquad.tv.
02:50:38.000 Brian will have that up.
02:50:40.000 Yes, people keep asking me, when are you going to put together a website where you have all of the information of everybody that's, you know, quote-unquote, involved in the Death Squad?
02:50:49.000 We're going to do that.
02:50:50.000 It's just a matter of time. 0.99
02:50:51.000 It's just a matter of, like I said, I have too much shit going on right now. 0.99
02:50:54.000 Brian has too much shit going on right now. 0.99
02:50:56.000 There is somebody else doing it for us. 0.99
02:50:57.000 Vicky Peza has got Death Squad News where he has all of our tour dates.
02:51:01.000 That's nice as well.
02:51:03.000 Oh, yeah?
02:51:04.000 Yeah, it has all of it, like Ari, Burt Kreischer, Brian Calland, Ari Shaffir.
02:51:08.000 There's me from a show that was like a month ago.
02:51:11.000 Well, yeah, she hasn't updated it in the last week.
02:51:13.000 It's free!
02:51:13.000 Well, we've got to have someone.
02:51:16.000 Look, we're going to do this.
02:51:17.000 It's all when the studio gets constructed and moving in place.
02:51:21.000 Brian and I just had some conversations about it today.
02:51:23.000 And the regular weekly shows at the Ice House, I talked to Bob today.
02:51:27.000 We had a little meeting.
02:51:28.000 He brought me in.
02:51:29.000 And one of the things that Bob Fisher, the owner of the Ice House, wants to do is have a weekly show.
02:51:34.000 So I will be at the Ice House every week that I am in town.
02:51:39.000 If I'm not in town, I won't have a show here, but most Wednesdays, consider it done.
02:51:44.000 This Wednesday, so far, it's Joey Diaz, Duncan Trussell.
02:51:49.000 Are you in?
02:51:50.000 Probably, yeah.
02:51:51.000 Probably.
02:51:51.000 Probably Brian.
02:51:52.000 I think Ian Edwards is coming too, and I think Ari Shafir.
02:51:56.000 Ari Shafir is in.
02:51:58.000 Boom.
02:51:58.000 Ari Shafir just texted me.
02:51:59.000 He said, I'm in!
02:52:01.000 Boom! 0.99
02:52:02.000 Boom! 0.99
02:52:02.000 That's how we roll. 0.99
02:52:03.000 Look, it says boom.
02:52:05.000 He really did say that. 0.99
02:52:07.000 That's what kind of fucking psychic energy I'm putting forth, ladies and gentlemen. 0.99
02:52:11.000 You see that? 0.99
02:52:12.000 Oh, you got your text all big.
02:52:14.000 Yeah.
02:52:15.000 I'm in.
02:52:15.000 Boom.
02:52:16.000 Okay, you dirty bitches. 1.00
02:52:18.000 He's in. 1.00
02:52:19.000 Boom.
02:52:19.000 And if you want to get in one of those super sweet Desquad TV shirts?
02:52:24.000 What's a TV shirt?
02:52:26.000 Desquad T-shirts, the ones that I saw everywhere in North Carolina this weekend, holla at your boy, they're available at Desquad.TV. And again, those go directly to support Brian's Podcast Network.
02:52:40.000 So if you like the Ice House Chronicles and all those other cool podcasts.
02:52:44.000 And Kevin Pereira, who will be starting tomorrow.
02:52:46.000 Thursday, I'm sorry.
02:52:47.000 I missed it.
02:52:47.000 Thursday.
02:52:48.000 Thursday.
02:52:50.000 That's what's up. 0.98
02:52:52.000 This week, we have, tomorrow, we have Duncan motherfucking Trussell. 0.97
02:52:57.000 We'll be joining the podcast. 0.94
02:52:58.000 And then, on Thursday, we have Amber Lyon, who is the CNN reporter.
02:53:04.000 They censored her, man. 0.97
02:53:07.000 This is going to be really fascinating stuff.
02:53:11.000 This is going to blow your mind.
02:53:13.000 I've been listening to several interviews of her that are already available online.
02:53:17.000 And this is one courageous woman.
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02:54:04.000 Got raw cocoa in it, which is an excellent antioxidant. 0.94
02:54:08.000 So that's the schedule for this week.
02:54:11.000 New podcast studio is in construction right now.
02:54:13.000 We go live with the internet this Friday.
02:54:15.000 So within a week, we'll start doing some shows from there.
02:54:18.000 But we will never abandon the Ice House, ladies and gentlemen.
02:54:21.000 This is our home.
02:54:22.000 We love you.
02:54:23.000 You love us.
02:54:24.000 We are one. 0.99
02:54:24.000 All of us together in this crazy, fucked up soup of humanity that might just be a dream. 0.99
02:54:30.000 See you tomorrow, freaks. 0.99
02:54:32.000 Peace!