The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #434 - Roseanne Barr

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00:00:19.000 Roseanne Barr is so badass, we had to start this podcast early. 1.00

00:00:23.000 We had to start it early.

00:00:24.000 We couldn't even wait until 3. We had to get it rocking.

00:00:27.000 She came here from a volcano, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:29.000 She lives on a volcano in the middle of the ocean.

00:00:31.000 That's as gangster as it gets. 0.99

00:00:33.000 That's fucking right. 0.99

00:00:34.000 You and Terrence McKenna. 0.99

00:00:35.000 Do you know who he was?

00:00:36.000 Uh-uh.

00:00:37.000 Who's that?

00:00:38.000 Terrence McKenna was this crazy, psychedelic guy who lived on the Big Island.

00:00:41.000 He had this giant property in the Big Island where he grew all these psychedelic plants.

00:00:45.000 Most of them were actually legal to grow.

00:00:47.000 Because the government didn't know about quite a few of them.

00:00:49.000 How come I never heard this?

00:00:51.000 You never heard of Terrence McKenna?

00:00:52.000 No, so keep going.

00:00:54.000 I will give you a lot of stuff before you leave that tunes you into this guy.

00:00:58.000 But he was this sort of psychedelic bard. 0.99

00:01:01.000 That's the best way to describe him.

00:01:03.000 Just a really good speaker who had...

00:01:05.000 A deep understanding of psychedelics and of botany and of the biology of these plants.

00:01:11.000 And he also had some crazy theories about human beings and evolution.

00:01:15.000 And his biggest one was called the stoned ape theory.

00:01:18.000 I totally agree with it.

00:01:20.000 No, I know that theory, but I didn't know it was from that guy.

00:01:25.000 I saw McKenna and he lived out the last part of his life on the big island.

00:01:30.000 He had this cool compound and used to bring people up there and do ayahuasca with them.

00:01:34.000 That's like the third time I've heard about that ayahuasca.

00:01:38.000 That's only the third time you've heard about it?

00:01:39.000 Oh, on the Big Island.

00:01:40.000 Yeah, in the last little while.

00:01:42.000 A lot of people have been talking about that.

00:01:44.000 It's spreading everywhere now, but I think McKenna is a big reason why it spread around Hawaii. 0.71

00:01:50.000 He came to Hawaii, I forget what year, got some property and built a house out there.

00:01:55.000 Do you know where?

00:01:57.000 On Mauna Loa.

00:01:58.000 In Kona.

00:02:01.000 Yeah, he had like a complete self-sufficient system up there, like collecting rainwater.

00:02:07.000 Oh my God, they're all crazy up there in Kota. 1.00

00:02:10.000 They're the most genius. 0.89

00:02:11.000 They're like genius inventors.

00:02:14.000 They're just incredible over there.

00:02:16.000 The stuff they've done is like incredible looking.

00:02:20.000 They're so futuristic in their design.

00:02:24.000 It blows my mind.

00:02:25.000 Their designs are like space-like.

00:02:29.000 Well, that's where the observatory is, too.

00:02:31.000 The Keck Observatory.

00:02:32.000 So there's a bunch of genius people.

00:02:34.000 I don't never go up there.

00:02:35.000 Did you go up there?

00:02:36.000 That's haunted.

00:02:37.000 No.

00:02:37.000 Really?

00:02:37.000 It's haunted?

00:02:38.000 Oh, no.

00:02:39.000 It's that guy.

00:02:39.000 Oh, no.

00:02:40.000 You're not supposed to go up there.

00:02:41.000 How is it haunted?

00:02:42.000 In what way?

00:02:44.000 No, no, no?

00:02:45.000 Oh, no, no.

00:02:47.000 That whole Mauna Kea Mountain, you know, that's a holy mountain, you know.

00:02:53.000 Is it?

00:02:53.000 To the Hawaiian.

00:02:54.000 People, that's where they were born out of, is that mountain, Mauna Kea.

00:02:58.000 That's where they were born.

00:03:00.000 They were born?

00:03:01.000 Yeah.

00:03:01.000 But they came on boats, didn't they?

00:03:05.000 Well...

00:03:07.000 You mean from the Marquesas?

00:03:09.000 Yeah, from the Marquesans.

00:03:11.000 Yeah, but it's like all one big old mind meld thing.

00:03:16.000 But the native Hawaiian people who like, I don't know how they got there. 0.55

00:03:22.000 Some say they came on those boats.

00:03:26.000 But they have their myths and they're very connected to that piece of ground.

00:03:31.000 And they are very connected to, you know, Mauna Kea, the mountain.

00:03:36.000 And, you know, they still have their same mythology and everything, you know?

00:03:40.000 So I love to listen to what they say about, you know, the island and GMOs and power.

00:03:48.000 There's some interesting thinkers.

00:03:51.000 Well, it's one of the last free places, really.

00:03:53.000 If you stop and think about it, it's America, but it's not really.

00:03:56.000 It's five hours away by plane.

00:03:58.000 And it's incredible paradise.

00:04:00.000 As far as, like, nature, you know, all of the islands.

00:04:03.000 Maui, the Big Island, all of them.

00:04:05.000 They're just incredibly fascinating and gorgeous and beautiful.

00:04:08.000 Well, it's kind of something magnificent.

00:04:10.000 But all that, everybody says all that, you know.

00:04:13.000 That's one way of putting it, I guess.

00:04:14.000 But to me, it's like, whoa, it grabbed me in the navel.

00:04:18.000 It grabbed you in the navel? 0.67

00:04:19.000 It grabbed my navel and it would not cease to grab my navel. 0.99

00:04:23.000 That's one of your chakras, right? 0.73

00:04:25.000 Isn't it supposed to be?

00:04:26.000 Navel is one of them?

00:04:27.000 There's something around there that it's like a magnet thing.

00:04:32.000 It's to a certain place on earth.

00:04:34.000 I don't know.

00:04:35.000 It's like an energy ley lens.

00:04:38.000 You know what I mean, right?

00:04:40.000 I do.

00:04:40.000 I've written some of my best things ever in Hawaii on vacation where I don't usually write.

00:04:45.000 Really?

00:04:46.000 I can write there.

00:04:47.000 That's why I like it there because I can really write there.

00:04:50.000 It's like your head is clear and you have your creative idea and you can carry it out and finish it.

00:04:59.000 I can't never finish it, you know?

00:05:01.000 But I can finish things there.

00:05:05.000 Well, you are more at peace there, I think, because everyone sort of knows it's isolated and you also know that you really are on a volcano, this beautiful, natural volcano.

00:05:15.000 Well, I went there because they got a goddess named Pele, and that's like one of the last places on Earth where there's like, you know, a goddess that is active in people's minds and also active inside a volcano that might erupt at any time,

00:05:30.000 which is, you know...

00:05:32.000 What happens, you know, it's very Sufist, you know what I mean? 1.00

00:05:35.000 Because it's like somewhere there is that which is thought before it occurs, you know what I mean?

00:05:44.000 And I really feel that there, that you get your thinking all lined up right, and it's like you're connected to the earth there. 0.98

00:05:55.000 Like me trying to get my nuts out there, Joe, that's been the fucking mind-blower. 0.99

00:06:01.000 Macadamias? 0.99

00:06:01.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:06:03.000 You're growing them, right?

00:06:04.000 You have like a plantation or something?

00:06:05.000 Well, I'm not growing them.

00:06:06.000 The trees are growing them.

00:06:07.000 I just pick them up.

00:06:10.000 But I try to fertilize my trees and get it so that I can perfect the nut.

00:06:15.000 And this year was quite a good harvest.

00:06:19.000 And these nuts are like, they're not like nobody else.

00:06:22.000 They're not like any other nuts.

00:06:24.000 I'm serious.

00:06:26.000 I believe you.

00:06:27.000 I think if you're actually a part of it, I bet you affect it just in that way. 0.97

00:06:31.000 Well, I didn't do shit for it, but it was owned by the Dole Pineapple. 0.96

00:06:37.000 You know about Dole in Hawaii, right? 0.98

00:06:39.000 Sure, yeah.

00:06:40.000 They owned the entire island of Lanai, didn't they?

00:06:43.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:45.000 Yeah.

00:06:46.000 Yeah, at one point in time at least.

00:06:47.000 Yeah, them and the University of Hawaii, they're all hooked up, you know.

00:06:51.000 And they do do your genetic modification studies and such.

00:06:56.000 Right.

00:06:56.000 Which is very interesting to me of how they do all that and then create a pineapple that has lower acidity and stuff like that.

00:07:04.000 I think that's interesting.

00:07:05.000 It's very interesting.

00:07:06.000 It's spooky and it's interesting at the same time because the implications of genetically modifying plants are huge.

00:07:13.000 They're very profound.

00:07:14.000 And they shouldn't just affect the people that are creating them and putting them out there.

00:07:18.000 They're really worldwide questions.

00:07:20.000 And when you have people that are just getting away with doing genetic modifications on plants, not really sure of the long-term ramifications to the environment, to bees, there's a host of different things that are affected by these things.

00:07:33.000 Well, I thought I did a pretty good checkmate on Monsanto, which I call Monsatan. 0.98

00:07:41.000 I thought I got them in a chokehold like that bitch you were talking about, that fighting. 1.00

00:07:45.000 Oh, Ronda Rousey? 1.00

00:07:46.000 Yeah.

00:07:47.000 She's nothing compared to me.

00:07:49.000 Whoa, how dare you.

00:07:50.000 I'll tell you, I put them in quite a nice headlock over there.

00:07:53.000 What were they trying to do?

00:07:55.000 Well, they were trying to pass a law or to get rid of a law, which took a lot of work getting there to make law, which was to, you know, that the people did not want the GMO studies to continue on the island.

00:08:09.000 And, you know, so it's like you got to vote yes, but it really means no.

00:08:13.000 And I mean, it was like layer after layer of ridiculousness to protect public health.

00:08:21.000 So I just started studying it and I realized that they kept on doing that fake science thing that they do.

00:08:29.000 But it's like, hey, science lasts more than 90 days.

00:08:32.000 Genetic studies, proper scientific genetic studies.

00:08:38.000 They have follow-through.

00:08:40.000 And they also have a control group.

00:08:44.000 And, you know, you come to a conclusion.

00:08:48.000 You don't stop studying after 90 days and then like actually...

00:08:52.000 Like pay lobbyists to pass the law saying you only have to do 90 days.

00:08:57.000 I mean, geez, that's Satan. 1.00

00:08:59.000 That's friggin' crazy ass Satan. 1.00

00:09:01.000 It's money. 1.00

00:09:01.000 It's pure money. 1.00

00:09:02.000 It's people wanting money over humanity.

00:09:04.000 People wanting money over the possibility of damage.

00:09:09.000 You know, we gotta be really careful with nature.

00:09:11.000 It's just, there's been a million diseases that have occurred throughout the history of people and they come from a variety of reasons.

00:09:16.000 They come from Or a variety of sources that come from all sorts of different contagions. 0.99

00:09:20.000 But we can create shit. 1.00

00:09:22.000 We could accidentally fuck up and create something horrible. 1.00

00:09:25.000 And we could also... 1.00

00:09:26.000 What about this fucking atomic weaponry? 0.99

00:09:29.000 There's the biggest fucking mistake anybody's ever heard of and make it. 0.99

00:09:34.000 And then they make it and then give everybody 50 or 60 of them. 1.00

00:09:39.000 That's ridiculous.

00:09:40.000 I mean, the truth is, the horrifying truth of my opinion, why I don't go to parties. 0.99

00:09:47.000 Because I do bum people out at a certain fucking point. 0.96

00:09:51.000 You know, I do. 0.98

00:09:52.000 Because it's not a popular thing to say. 0.97

00:09:56.000 It's all fucking over. 0.95

00:09:58.000 It's too late. 0.98

00:09:58.000 Do you think it's totally over? 0.98

00:09:59.000 It's too late?

00:10:00.000 Yeah!

00:10:00.000 The human beings have ruined the planet.

00:10:03.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:10:04.000 See, I'm not convinced. 1.00

00:10:05.000 I think we've definitely fucked a lot of things up, and there's definitely a lot of hubris going on, and there's a lot of scary shit going on, like Fukushima. 0.96

00:10:12.000 Fukushima's bad, and they just had a new study showing that a lot of radiation started to reach San Francisco. 0.98

00:10:19.000 You know, they've found a 3% increase in some of the tuna, the radiation in tuna. 0.99

00:10:23.000 It's scary shit. 0.98

00:10:24.000 But there's also people... 1.00

00:10:25.000 Well, they're saying don't eat fish out of there no more.

00:10:27.000 Yeah.

00:10:27.000 I don't know who they are, but I think...

00:10:29.000 But you know what?

00:10:29.000 Here's the thing.

00:10:30.000 We're all poisoned.

00:10:31.000 Bingo.

00:10:32.000 It's over. 1.00

00:10:33.000 Everything's fucking rotten, poisoned. 1.00

00:10:35.000 Fucking... 1.00

00:10:36.000 It's all dead. 1.00

00:10:37.000 It's dead as a fucking doornail and two motherfuckers. 1.00

00:10:40.000 It's not dead yet, though. 1.00

00:10:40.000 It's time to let the hope thing go. 1.00

00:10:42.000 Really?

00:10:43.000 I'm serious.

00:10:44.000 Wow. 0.99

00:10:44.000 It's time to get real and do what fucking needs to be done. 0.99

00:10:47.000 What needs to be done? 0.99

00:10:48.000 Well, you got to fucking get busy of trying to turn it back. 0.97

00:10:52.000 So you got to figure out a way. 0.96

00:10:54.000 Don't let it keep on rolling over you.

00:10:55.000 It's not going to get better. 1.00

00:10:56.000 By it, you mean capitalist society, corporations, people destroying the earth, polluting, all that shit, nuclear waste. 1.00

00:11:04.000 Is that what you're saying? 1.00

00:11:05.000 By roll it back?

00:11:06.000 Well, everything that's lemming. 0.98

00:11:10.000 It's time for Monsatan to become of use to the human race. 1.00

00:11:15.000 That's just my opinion.

00:11:16.000 They've got to come up with some...

00:11:18.000 If they're going to do genetic studies, okay, get rid of that.

00:11:23.000 Get rid of that one. 0.91

00:11:24.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

00:11:25.000 Come up with some kind of an implant for people's teeth or brain that blocks that horrendous lemming fucking impulse. 1.00

00:11:34.000 Do fucking humanity a favor and figure out how we're supposed to get rid of that shit that we keep going along with what's killing us because we're too fucking confused to know what in the fuck is really real. 1.00

00:11:47.000 Isn't it just that there's just too much to be paying attention to? 0.99

00:11:50.000 People have their own lives, they have their own problems, their own bills, their own family, and then try paying attention to global issues like genetically modified foods and farmers suing all across the world.

00:12:01.000 The farmers in Brazil recently won billions of dollars from Monsanto.

00:12:06.000 Farmers in India commit suicide on an almost daily basis.

00:12:09.000 I mean, they have farmers in India that are committing suicide left and right because of the debt that they get into with these crazy deals. 1.00

00:12:17.000 It's all the debt-based bullshit. 1.00

00:12:18.000 It's all the pyramid. 1.00

00:12:19.000 They can't get out of it, and they can't afford it, and the whole thing is just a disaster.

00:12:23.000 It's a disaster, and it's a disaster that clearly has its roots in money.

00:12:26.000 I mean, it's just about money.

00:12:28.000 Well, here's the roots.

00:12:29.000 They're getting a payoff.

00:12:31.000 For the different various ways people can get killed.

00:12:35.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:12:35.000 They're getting fucking insurance payoffs for killing people, you know, and taking bets on how long it'll take for them to die. 0.99

00:12:44.000 See, on the other hand, I think the idea of genetically modifying food in order to help people eat more nutritious food, like golden rice, there's been a bunch of innovation as far as... 0.99

00:12:53.000 Right, absolutely. 0.75

00:12:54.000 I think there's a lot of beauty in the science behind it, but I think we've got to be really, really, really fucking careful when you're playing around with nature, too. 0.52

00:13:01.000 Yes, you do. 0.98

00:13:01.000 The money part is disgusting. 0.98

00:13:03.000 The pollution of the environment is disgusting. 1.00

00:13:05.000 But when you start talking about declining bee populations due to the pesticides they're using in their plants, it's scary shit. 0.99

00:13:12.000 There's a chain reaction to this whole thing. 0.95

00:13:15.000 We might not like the end result of it. 0.99

00:13:17.000 You've got to read up on that bee shit. 0.99

00:13:19.000 That's really interesting micro-world stuff. 1.00

00:13:22.000 But it's like all to stop the African queens, the invading African queens. 1.00

00:13:28.000 Have you ever gone on there and read that kind of language?

00:13:31.000 No.

00:13:31.000 I know they were definitely afraid of Africanized killer bees.

00:13:35.000 They were afraid of that, but that's not why they're killing these fucking bees. 1.00

00:13:37.000 They're killing these bees because the pesticides they're giving them just kills everything. 0.99

00:13:41.000 Not only that, there's a lot of issues.

00:13:43.000 It's because they're in business together.

00:13:44.000 They're working both sides of the street.

00:13:46.000 You think they're actively trying to kill bees?

00:13:48.000 I think it's just a side effect of the pollution. 1.00

00:13:49.000 I think they're actively trying to kill whole populations for a fucking kickback. 1.00

00:13:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:13:55.000 You think they're actively trying to kill whole populations of bees?

00:13:57.000 Of humans.

00:13:58.000 Of humans.

00:13:59.000 Of life.

00:14:00.000 Of intelligence.

00:14:01.000 See, I don't think that.

00:14:02.000 I think they're just trying to profit.

00:14:03.000 Well, you're a positive thinker.

00:14:04.000 I'm very positive.

00:14:05.000 See, I told you I was a bummer.

00:14:07.000 You're not a bummer.

00:14:08.000 You're just very strong and very opinionated. 1.00

00:14:11.000 I think it's all bullshit. 0.99

00:14:12.000 And people better figure out how to make everything work for people. 0.99

00:14:17.000 And everything could really work for all people.

00:14:21.000 All the mechanism is in place.

00:14:23.000 It's just like the crazy trons and bots that are seated in those positions of power. 1.00

00:14:32.000 They're not for, like, you know...

00:14:35.000 Humanity.

00:14:35.000 Yeah.

00:14:37.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:14:38.000 I 100% agree.

00:15:05.000 Kings and monarchs there.

00:15:06.000 You know, just because you could do that doesn't mean that's the way you're supposed to be living your life. 1.00

00:15:10.000 You have one life here, and you could choose to be an evil fuck, or you could choose to be a good person. 0.99

00:15:16.000 I always try to appeal to them to go, you know, you could rejoin the human race at any point. 1.00

00:15:21.000 They all could.

00:15:22.000 They could actually make stuff, all that technology, everything that it took to create the actual... 0.99

00:15:31.000 The science of increasing food for people and desalinization of water and all these things that are so possible for just a few greedy fucks and their trons. 0.99

00:15:47.000 Absolutely. 0.94

00:15:48.000 I've always said that if you could just take the amount of money that the United States gave to Halliburton to rebuild Iraq after we destroyed it and put that money in the inner cities in America and not have the war, not destroy anything in the first place, the amount of positive work that could have been done and the same amount of contracts could have been dealt out.

00:16:06.000 I know, right?

00:16:07.000 We could have all easily convinced the United States public. 1.00

00:16:10.000 Shit could have made sense. 0.99

00:16:11.000 It could have been good. 1.00

00:16:13.000 It could have fucking worked. 0.99

00:16:15.000 It still can. 0.98

00:16:15.000 I think we have a better chance today than ever before. 0.98

00:16:18.000 I think because today you have information.

00:16:21.000 You have information that's being distributed in a way that no one can stop.

00:16:24.000 You can't stop it.

00:16:25.000 So far, but they stopped it in some ways.

00:16:27.000 It doesn't matter.

00:16:27.000 If they want to stop it, they can stop it.

00:16:29.000 But they are not big enough.

00:16:31.000 There's not enough thems that would agree with that because they would turn against each other. 0.99

00:16:34.000 It's not like there's a cabal of three dudes that have ultimate power.

00:16:37.000 There's thousands and thousands of people that are making decisions whether or not this gets censored or that gets censored.

00:16:42.000 And they're in cahoots against each other.

00:16:44.000 That's a problem... 0.99

00:16:45.000 The FBI and the CIA, the reason why Petraeus got kicked, removed from office, is the CIA was being spied on by the fucking FBI. Well, that's what NSA... They can't even... 0.97

00:16:55.000 That's what all NSA is, them spying on each other.

00:16:58.000 For sure. 0.99

00:16:59.000 To find out if he knows the shit I've been pulling. 1.00

00:17:01.000 Exactly. 0.99

00:17:02.000 We're caught up in... 0.68

00:17:03.000 It runs on blackmail, like, okay, it's like they fucking think they're like James Bond or something, but it's all like... 0.98

00:17:10.000 They all have to be dirty in order to blackmail the other side. 1.00

00:17:14.000 They're all fucking crooks. 1.00

00:17:15.000 Every goddamn last fucking one of them. 1.00

00:17:18.000 Well, there's certainly quite a few of them that are crooks. 1.00

00:17:20.000 And they're crooks inside the system.

00:17:22.000 Do you know any of them?

00:17:23.000 I don't know any of them.

00:17:24.000 I don't know them.

00:17:25.000 So I don't know if they're crooks or not crooks.

00:17:26.000 But I think if you were growing up in that system, people imitate their atmosphere.

00:17:31.000 You get caught up in that wacky system and that becomes your reality.

00:17:33.000 And you think you're doing it, you know, also the side effect is they stop terrorists.

00:17:38.000 No, I didn't see that.

00:17:39.000 I did.

00:17:41.000 That's insane.

00:17:42.000 Yeah, wasn't it?

00:17:43.000 That's like... 0.99

00:17:45.000 That was like fucking an unreal movie. 0.99

00:17:50.000 But that's what they've just gone crazy into jack-o'-lan. 0.99

00:17:54.000 They left the human race. 0.94

00:17:55.000 Well, it's people trying to do something.

00:17:57.000 You know, they try to win.

00:17:58.000 They try to succeed.

00:17:59.000 They try to get past this marker.

00:18:01.000 They have a marker of 10 million.

00:18:03.000 They want to get to 100. They want to get to a billion.

00:18:05.000 They're crazy.

00:18:06.000 But they keep snorting coke to keep it up, you know, because they've got to go farther and farther.

00:18:10.000 Like the stock markets, well... 0.99

00:18:14.000 Don't be telling me about Adderall because I got on Adderall and it's the best fucking thing. 0.97

00:18:19.000 I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. 0.98

00:18:20.000 My good friend has a patch that he keeps on his legs.

00:18:23.000 A Prozac?

00:18:24.000 Yeah.

00:18:25.000 He's got a Prozac patch.

00:18:29.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:18:30.000 He was taking the Adderall.

00:18:30.000 I like a morphine drip, but you can't get it.

00:18:34.000 That's what I'd like.

00:18:35.000 My friend was taking the Adderall, but the drop-off at the end of the day was too much for him.

00:18:39.000 It was really starting to drive him crazy because he would feel great throughout the day and be very productive, and then he'd have this big drop-off.

00:18:44.000 Well, that's when you start your drinking.

00:18:47.000 That's cocktail hour. 0.97

00:18:48.000 I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Adderall, but I am saying a lot of people that are getting a lot of shit done are taking Adderall. 0.99

00:18:52.000 No shit, I just clean out. 0.98

00:18:55.000 Listen, I just clean out my closets, which I have never done in my whole fucking life because I couldn't focus to do that, you know? 0.99

00:19:07.000 But like I said, I'm on Adderall. 0.99

00:19:09.000 I'm cleaning these fucking closets. 0.99

00:19:11.000 I have shit in there from 25 fucking years that I was afraid to throw out. 1.00

00:19:16.000 I counted, I had something like 1,700 plain black t-shirts. 1.00

00:19:23.000 Wow.

00:19:26.000 How did you count those all?

00:19:29.000 I would have gave up after the first couple of hundred.

00:19:31.000 Because I was donating them.

00:19:33.000 Wow, that's incredible.

00:19:35.000 Wow.

00:19:36.000 So, I'm not going to do that again.

00:19:38.000 That was pre-Adderall behavior.

00:19:42.000 That was pre-Adderall?

00:19:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:19:44.000 Adderall made me see, oh shit, I had enough fucking black t-shirts. 1.00

00:19:53.000 So Adderall gave you clarity? 1.00

00:19:54.000 It did!

00:19:55.000 That's hilarious. 0.99

00:19:56.000 So don't start fucking with me on that because my kids are trying to get me off it. 0.97

00:19:59.000 Why are they trying to get you off it? 0.99

00:20:00.000 They're like, Mom, yes, I like meth! 1.00

00:20:01.000 My fucking kids that I put through rehab, now they're fucking giving me shit about my fucking Adderall telling me it's like meth. 1.00

00:20:08.000 No, it's not like... 1.00

00:20:10.000 I've never done meth except for two times when I was married to Tom Arnold.

00:20:14.000 But aside from that, I would never get into meth.

00:20:19.000 Yeah, it doesn't seem like a good move.

00:20:20.000 I don't think it's nothing like Adderall.

00:20:22.000 I think they've got it down to where it's very effective for a lot of people.

00:20:26.000 I'll tell you one thing.

00:20:27.000 It's real effective because I got the back and forth of everything.

00:20:31.000 Two-way mirror thing going on all the time.

00:20:36.000 It made me...

00:20:37.000 I used to bite my nails so bad, you know, like down to nothing because my dad, he did it too.

00:20:44.000 But I quit for a long time.

00:20:47.000 Then I went on Adderall and I started biting my nails and then I had to keep it down to only two nails that I could bite.

00:20:54.000 I allowed myself to bite only two nails. 0.99

00:20:58.000 But it perfected my fucking nail biting too. 0.99

00:21:02.000 Because there's like no nail left at all. 1.00

00:21:05.000 You just get really good at it?

00:21:06.000 I'm so good at it now.

00:21:08.000 But you give yourself two nails?

00:21:09.000 Do you have specific nails?

00:21:10.000 Yeah, these two are my biters. 1.00

00:21:12.000 Ah.

00:21:16.000 So Adderall let you save your other eight fingers, essentially.

00:21:20.000 But it kind of forced me to do these two, though.

00:21:23.000 So it's got its good and bad.

00:21:25.000 But I have clean closets.

00:21:28.000 And you know what else I learned?

00:21:29.000 Final draft!

00:21:31.000 Oh, you learned it from there?

00:21:32.000 To write scripts? 0.99

00:21:33.000 I was able to fucking focus. 0.99

00:21:36.000 Great software. 0.99

00:21:37.000 Yeah.

00:21:38.000 That Adderall stuff.

00:21:39.000 Did you know Robert Schimmel?

00:21:41.000 I did know Robert Schimmel.

00:21:43.000 Great guy.

00:21:44.000 He was a really, really, really good guy.

00:21:47.000 Very, very funny guy and very good guy.

00:21:49.000 He was so funny.

00:21:50.000 He had a heart condition, and when he had his heart condition, when he was recovering from it, he accidentally took Adderall.

00:21:56.000 Oh, really?

00:21:57.000 Yeah, he called his doctor up.

00:21:58.000 I guess it was somebody else's, and he mistook the bottle, wasn't paying attention, and took the wrong medication.

00:22:03.000 Took someone else's medication.

00:22:05.000 And so he calls his doctor up in a panic. 1.00

00:22:06.000 Hey, I fucked up. 0.99

00:22:08.000 I thought I was taking my heart medication. 1.00

00:22:09.000 I took Adderall.

00:22:10.000 Am I going to be okay?

00:22:11.000 The doctor's like, don't worry about it.

00:22:12.000 What's the dosage?

00:22:13.000 He tells him the dosage.

00:22:14.000 He goes, you're going to be fine. 1.00

00:22:15.000 He goes, just prepare to get a lot of shit done. 0.98

00:22:18.000 And Robert said, he goes, I organized my notes in a way I've never done before. 0.99

00:22:22.000 I went over stacks of paper and wrote them all down into categories.

00:22:25.000 You can totally focus.

00:22:27.000 I mean, it's so good.

00:22:29.000 Like you can write a script instead of like getting 50 ideas on page 10 and writing 10 scripts. 0.99

00:22:35.000 And then just fucking throwing them all in the garbage. 1.00

00:22:39.000 Right. 1.00

00:22:39.000 You know, just the obsessive thing. 1.00

00:22:41.000 You can focus it so that it's, you know, constructive.

00:22:47.000 I've heard people say that it doesn't make you very creative.

00:22:50.000 That it makes you get work done, but it's more like busy work done or things, not creative things.

00:22:54.000 Like that writing on it was not good.

00:22:58.000 This is just, oh, obviously secondhand, but...

00:23:00.000 Yeah, that could be.

00:23:02.000 Who knows?

00:23:03.000 It could be.

00:23:04.000 Yeah, I could never say, because things affect people differently anyway.

00:23:08.000 Like, I know people that smoke pot, and they want to go work out.

00:23:11.000 And I know people that smoke pot, and they don't want to do anything, you know?

00:23:14.000 And I don't know what that is.

00:23:15.000 They could smoke the same pot.

00:23:16.000 And one person has a sense of adventure and wants to put boots on and go to the top of a mountain.

00:23:20.000 And the other person doesn't want to do a thing ever.

00:23:22.000 They want to play video games.

00:23:24.000 It's...

00:23:25.000 Who knows?

00:23:26.000 Neural pathways.

00:23:27.000 They're all different.

00:23:29.000 We're so different.

00:23:31.000 People seek some relief, and I'm sure we agree.

00:23:36.000 They should have the right to the relief that they seek.

00:23:40.000 They should just legalize pot, and then I think all the world's troubles would end. 0.99

00:23:46.000 Pot and hemp.

00:23:47.000 I really agree with you, 100%.

00:23:49.000 I think that, especially if people started eating it, they started eating it and getting the self-objective, self-analytical experience, really intense experiences, people would be a lot less prone to continue a lot of their shitty behavior.

00:24:01.000 That was McKenna's theory of evolution in the first place.

00:24:04.000 I've got to read about this guy.

00:24:05.000 Yeah, it was all about psilocybin mushrooms in the rainforests of Africa, how the rainforests had receded into grasslands.

00:24:12.000 And all this is proved by, you know, climatological studies, core samples and stuff like that.

00:24:16.000 The time has been debated, but essentially what happened was the rainforest receded, monkeys came down from the trees and started experimenting with different food sources, and one of them was the mushrooms growing on cow patties.

00:24:27.000 Oh yeah, I've heard that.

00:24:28.000 We started eating psilocybin mushrooms and started having these intense ideas.

00:24:31.000 I mean, it only makes sense.

00:24:33.000 If we get intense ideas from them and we have an advanced brain and a monkey gets intense experiences from them, they obviously have intelligent brains.

00:24:40.000 I mean, we've seen chimps do a lot of really crazy creative things. 0.97

00:24:43.000 We know that they act in packs.

00:24:45.000 We know that they hunt in packs.

00:24:46.000 We're talking about like lower hominids getting a dose of psilocybin mushrooms on a daily basis.

00:24:51.000 Of course it's going to have a crazy effect on their evolution.

00:24:54.000 Of course.

00:24:55.000 That's a big factor.

00:24:57.000 It's a big factor in terms of thinking.

00:24:59.000 And I completely agree with you.

00:25:01.000 That and hemp and all these different things, if they were made available, I think we are lacking in self-analysis.

00:25:08.000 And we are lacking as a society in our feeling of being responsible for the actions of the group.

00:25:13.000 And those are two things that you feel when you're on psychedelics.

00:25:16.000 Also, it's so arrogant, too, because we just ignore what everything means to other people.

00:25:24.000 We don't want to know what Anything means to other people.

00:25:30.000 We don't care, as long as we can make money.

00:25:32.000 It's like if you're gonna go to the rainforest and chop down these people's sacred trees and villages and, you know, force them to work in factories instead.

00:25:39.000 If they're willing to do it, then we're gonna get them to do it because we want those trees.

00:25:42.000 We want that oil and whatever the fuck else is there that we can make medicine out of.

00:25:47.000 I mean, what they're doing is just stealing resources.

00:25:49.000 And we're letting them.

00:25:51.000 We're letting them say, oh, this stuff, yeah, they don't live here.

00:25:53.000 So what?

00:25:54.000 These people have been there for thousands of years.

00:25:56.000 Well, they're trying to destroy all tribal rights. 0.72

00:25:59.000 That's what they're really after.

00:26:01.000 It's crazy.

00:26:01.000 They're trying to get rid of that, separate all people from, like, you know...

00:26:05.000 From nature.

00:26:06.000 You can't stop people from having the ability to live a natural life.

00:26:10.000 Just because you have guns, just because you have tanks, that's stealing. 1.00

00:26:13.000 And we're going to just let people steal shit. 1.00

00:26:15.000 If these people were there in the middle of the Amazon, that's their fucking home. 1.00

00:26:18.000 That's their home. 0.99

00:26:20.000 You have to be able to take into context their culture, this culture of hunting and gathering.

00:26:24.000 They're living in these cultures the same way they've been living in some places, like in the Congo and in the Amazon.

00:26:30.000 Thousands of years have been untouched.

00:26:33.000 You can't do anything about that.

00:26:34.000 You've got to leave that alone.

00:26:35.000 You know, you have to because just as far as like for the sake of our understanding of ourselves, having people like that with these ancient, ancient, untouched cultures is so important.

00:26:47.000 It's so fascinating.

00:26:49.000 We can learn so much about the origins of certain behaviors, about group thinking when you're in small tribes that count on each other, about how they dealt with injuries and medicine.

00:26:58.000 I mean, these are fascinating, fascinating discoveries to be had.

00:27:01.000 And instead, people just want money. 1.00

00:27:03.000 They just want to be able to chop the trees down, fuck these weird people, take their shit and throw them in a cage or throw them in a camp. 1.00

00:27:08.000 Well, you know, capitalism is like that. 1.00

00:27:11.000 That's how it works.

00:27:12.000 Unless, you know, unless human beings with brains, you know, get it under control as a tool of people and not its master, it'll continue to go that way because it requires that.

00:27:25.000 It requires gluttonous quarterly support.

00:27:29.000 Growth, and there's nothing left but investing in people dying fast.

00:27:34.000 Yeah, they don't want to maintain. 0.93

00:27:35.000 They want growth, which is ridiculous.

00:27:37.000 At a certain point in time, if everybody kept growing, the world would be full.

00:27:40.000 There's no room for everybody to keep growing, a business in that regard, that being your primary goal.

00:27:47.000 Not to be profitable, not to make money, but to grow. 1.00

00:27:49.000 Well, I think these guys are stupid. 1.00

00:27:50.000 Let me tell you why. 1.00

00:27:52.000 And it makes no sense to me either. 1.00

00:27:55.000 Because, okay, I accept that they're greedy fucking pigs. 1.00

00:28:00.000 And I just think, why can't they make that work for them and everyone else? 1.00

00:28:06.000 Why can't they be a greedy fucking pig? 1.00

00:28:09.000 Because they're going to get like 10 times the fucking payoff. 1.00

00:28:12.000 They will get even richer if they'll just listen to me. 1.00

00:28:17.000 Make all the bets because like Wall Street and all that shit, that's just going to the casino. 0.98

00:28:22.000 Make all the bets about how fast you can turn a place green and sustainable and how fast could that happen, a village? 0.99

00:28:32.000 How fast could that happen?

00:28:36.000 They could, like, use the same fucking ridiculous infrastructure that already exists to, like, make things better for everybody and could get the food to the hungry people because there's—really, that's all it is, is the roads that get the food to the hungry people. 1.00

00:28:54.000 That's 90% of everybody who's dying is dying because of waste and stupidity. 0.99

00:29:00.000 Now, if they fix that, they're going to get 10 times fucking richer. 1.00

00:29:05.000 But they're not greedy fucking pigs enough. 1.00

00:29:07.000 That's the problem. 0.99

00:29:10.000 They see all avenues as being a way to make money, even avenues that hurt people as long as they profit.

00:29:15.000 That's the real problem.

00:29:16.000 They're lacking in humanity, and that's why when you talk about pot being what could fix everything or psychedelics being what could fix things, that's the only thing that's going to bring humanity to a giant group that thinks that it's okay.

00:29:28.000 To be completely diffused of responsibilities because you're a part of some gigantic machine that apparently no one can control now.

00:29:34.000 So if you're a giant machine like Monsanto that's been fucking over farmers for 100,000 years or however long they've been around for, to stop that, to stop that whole thing, you're going to have to get the whole team high on mushrooms.

00:29:46.000 No, but it worked. 0.62

00:29:47.000 Didn't you hear this?

00:29:49.000 That Monsanto said they were going to, now they're going into pot.

00:29:52.000 Did you not hear that? 0.99

00:29:54.000 They're fucking, they're changing their thing and they have another name for it, Synergistra or some shit. 1.00

00:30:02.000 They have another name for pot? 1.00

00:30:03.000 They're going to try to patent pot?

00:30:04.000 Yeah, they're going to own the patent on pot now.

00:30:06.000 That's where it gets really creepy.

00:30:07.000 They tried to own patent on pigs.

00:30:09.000 They tried to own pigs because they were genetically modifying pigs. 0.98

00:30:12.000 I was totally involved in that argument. 1.00

00:30:15.000 It's a crazy fucking argument. 1.00

00:30:16.000 Because I was like, can we create a kosher pig? 1.00

00:30:21.000 That's an actual...

00:30:25.000 There's actual studies about that. 1.00

00:30:27.000 The idea of patenting and then owning a life form is fucking ridiculous. 0.99

00:30:31.000 I like the idea of a kosher pig, though. 0.99

00:30:33.000 I think it would be really cute.

00:30:35.000 How would it be?

00:30:36.000 You'd have to be all blessed from the DNA? It would have a nicer hoof.

00:30:39.000 It would have a nicer hoof if it was kosher? 1.00

00:30:41.000 Its hoof would look better.

00:30:42.000 It wouldn't be cloven.

00:30:44.000 What would it be?

00:30:45.000 If they genetically altered it, what would be the other options?

00:30:48.000 Well, they'd make a pig into a cow or something, I guess. 0.99

00:30:52.000 Like, they made a fish out of a tomato, you know that, right?

00:30:55.000 I mean, a tomato out of a fish.

00:30:57.000 They put fish genes in the tomato to make it shiny in the grocery store. 0.99

00:31:02.000 Yeah, I know they're doing a lot of weird shit like that. 0.97

00:31:04.000 They've always been doing that. 0.98

00:31:05.000 That's what I was saying about my farm. 1.00

00:31:07.000 That Dole Pineapple, my farm is where they did a lot of shit like that. 1.00

00:31:12.000 And here it is like, I don't know how many generations later, but my fucking nuts are like, they're like walnuts. 1.00

00:31:21.000 I'm telling you. 0.99

00:31:23.000 And you think it's because of the genetically modified dirt or something?

00:31:26.000 Whatever. 1.00

00:31:27.000 These fucking things, three of them is a meal. 1.00

00:31:31.000 Really? 1.00

00:31:32.000 Yeah.

00:31:33.000 It's the perfect protein.

00:31:35.000 How did you get involved in macadamia nuts?

00:31:37.000 How'd this whole thing get started? 0.95

00:31:42.000 Well, I tried to look for a school to put for my kid because, you know, my kid, he's 18 now, but he was little and he needed to go to a school that had focus because I don't have any focus so I wasn't able to teach him how to focus or else he was born that way or some shit. 0.79

00:32:02.000 Yeah. 0.80

00:32:02.000 But I can't tell. 0.80

00:32:05.000 But so I put him in that school.

00:32:07.000 So then I went over and I found this school.

00:32:09.000 So I went over there and I bought this farm site unseen.

00:32:13.000 Really?

00:32:14.000 Moved into it.

00:32:15.000 What island?

00:32:16.000 Big Island.

00:32:17.000 Wow.

00:32:18.000 So there was a really good school.

00:32:20.000 As soon as I knew it was Elvis' favorite island, I went there.

00:32:23.000 Did you know that?

00:32:24.000 That's where Elvis was.

00:32:25.000 That's where Elvis, yes.

00:32:27.000 It's the spot though.

00:32:28.000 If you've never been to the observatory, that's a life-changing experience.

00:32:32.000 No, I'm not going up there.

00:32:32.000 No, they said don't go up there.

00:32:34.000 No. 0.99

00:32:35.000 Because it could erupt at any fucking time. 0.99

00:32:37.000 Really? 1.00

00:32:38.000 Yeah.

00:32:38.000 Is that active?

00:32:40.000 Is that one active?

00:32:40.000 Yes.

00:32:41.000 Mauna Loa is active, right?

00:32:43.000 Mauna Kea.

00:32:44.000 Maakea is active.

00:32:45.000 Yeah, I think they give you a little bit of warning before it blows.

00:32:49.000 I know, I'd just be turning the corner in my car just as it happened.

00:32:55.000 Right when it hit?

00:32:55.000 Yeah, I know it.

00:32:57.000 I tweeted a picture today of a bridge falling apart, of a road actually falling apart.

00:33:03.000 Just some cracks in the road, a landslide that's gigantic.

00:33:07.000 That's one thing you do have to think about if you live in Hawaii.

00:33:09.000 You do have to think about the fact that you're living on a volcano.

00:33:13.000 Do you know I'm not making this up? 0.99

00:33:15.000 You won't fucking believe this. 1.00

00:33:16.000 This is the kind of shit that happens to me. 1.00

00:33:18.000 And I'm not making it up. 1.00

00:33:19.000 I believe you.

00:33:20.000 I was sitting at my desk here, where I live, you know, in the marina.

00:33:27.000 And, uh...

00:33:29.000 I just hit send on some incendiary thing that I'd worked on all day. 0.99

00:33:35.000 A fucking incendiary tweet that was at perfect zero. 0.99

00:33:40.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:33:41.000 Right, when you get to the numbers, 140 characters.

00:33:44.000 140, it's 137! 1.00

00:33:47.000 Shit! 0.99

00:33:48.000 Now I have to alter the top of it. 0.99

00:33:50.000 Just like it for obsessive people. 0.99

00:33:53.000 But I just hit send, and right then I felt an earthquake right on my fucking desk. 0.95

00:33:59.000 And I went online, and it was, it had hit Marina Del Rey, right where I was sitting. 0.98

00:34:05.000 And I'm like, don't fucking go crazy, because I was alone. 0.96

00:34:08.000 I'm like, don't fucking freak out, run into the street, screaming, knocking on their neighbor. 1.00

00:34:14.000 Don't fucking do that. 1.00

00:34:16.000 Stay in here, get some emotional control. 1.00

00:34:19.000 You've just lived through a fucking, you know, whatever it's called. 0.99

00:34:24.000 The Earth movie. 1.00

00:34:25.000 Yeah.

00:34:26.000 Earthquake.

00:34:27.000 Yeah.

00:34:28.000 So I calm myself down.

00:34:29.000 So I go back to Hawaii.

00:34:31.000 The first night there, there's another one. 1.00

00:34:35.000 I almost lost my shit. 1.00

00:34:38.000 Did you think it was just beginning? 1.00

00:34:40.000 Yeah, it's so terrifying.

00:34:42.000 You think of all these people like, you know, they're just there and here comes a tidal wave and here comes a tsunami.

00:34:49.000 I mean, how vulnerable we are to all of these elements and weather and stuff.

00:34:55.000 And people don't think about it. 1.00

00:34:57.000 It's terrifying shit. 1.00

00:34:59.000 You can have a fucking nervous breakdown over that. 1.00

00:35:03.000 Well, you definitely can. 1.00

00:35:04.000 I mean, there's always going to be the problem that human beings die.

00:35:07.000 And we're very finite.

00:35:08.000 And whether or not we get hit with an earthquake or a tsunami or a hurricane, we're going to die anyway.

00:35:12.000 I know.

00:35:13.000 That's really the terrifying part.

00:35:14.000 Yeah.

00:35:15.000 That's the one.

00:35:15.000 That's the big one.

00:35:16.000 And then you're sitting there all the time wondering how you're gonna die, you know?

00:35:20.000 Like, are you scared of that at all?

00:35:23.000 Do you think of that?

00:35:24.000 No, not that much, no.

00:35:26.000 What I think about the big worry for me would be leaving behind my kids.

00:35:30.000 Yeah.

00:35:30.000 That would be the big worry, you know, making them sad.

00:35:33.000 But we're gonna die.

00:35:34.000 I mean, I don't want to right now.

00:35:36.000 I'm enjoying life, but I'm pretty sure it's inevitable.

00:35:38.000 Unless something crazy comes along technologically over the next hundred years.

00:35:42.000 Wouldn't that be cool?

00:35:43.000 They say that it's there.

00:35:45.000 I don't know if it would be cool, because I don't know what's next.

00:35:47.000 I'm not convinced that this is a one-stop shop.

00:35:50.000 Like, we land in life, and this is it, and this is where our soul is, this is where our energy is.

00:35:55.000 This is the ultimate stop of our existence.

00:35:59.000 I'm not convinced.

00:36:00.000 Where do you think you go after this?

00:36:01.000 I don't know, but just the fact that this exists, just the fact that this life that we live in, where we can communicate with our mouth, where we can see with our eyes, where we walk around and drive around and fly in planes, this life is so fucking insane and so crazy and bizarre and fantastic.

00:36:18.000 Just the idea that this existence exists, where we shut off every night for eight hours and completely vanish from the reality that we live in, and then we do it willingly, and then we come back in the morning and we start all over again.

00:36:30.000 That alone is fucking fantastic and bizarre and strange.

00:36:33.000 It is, yeah. 0.97

00:36:34.000 I'm not convinced that when we die this ends.

00:36:36.000 I'm not convinced.

00:36:37.000 I'm not convinced that anybody dies.

00:36:38.000 I'm not convinced that this whole thing isn't just one series of wake-ups and goes to sleep and wakes up and while you're conscious and while you're alive.

00:36:46.000 I'm not convinced that you're in the same timeline that you were on before.

00:36:50.000 I think we're sims.

00:36:52.000 We could be.

00:36:53.000 I mean, that's what a lot of people far smarter than me are arguing.

00:36:56.000 You can almost prove that we are part of some sort of a crazy gigantic computer simulation.

00:37:02.000 Yeah.

00:37:02.000 But that might be what the universe is in the first place.

00:37:04.000 I think it's a computer.

00:37:05.000 The whole thing might be, you know, I mean, that might be what nature is.

00:37:08.000 We try to look at nature as being something that's, you know, this is rock and this is dirt and these are water.

00:37:13.000 Yeah, shorter.

00:37:14.000 Until you break it down to molecules, until you break it down to some atomic particles that exist everywhere.

00:37:19.000 I like patterns when you break it down to like, you know, the genetic patterns.

00:37:23.000 Like Fibonacci sequence and things along those lines. 0.98

00:37:25.000 All that shit is so interesting. 0.97

00:37:27.000 Fascinating. 0.99

00:37:27.000 It's like, oh, you don't need any bigger mystery than this. 0.99

00:37:30.000 Yeah.

00:37:31.000 You know, who knows?

00:37:32.000 Well, I know today Charlie Hill, a great comic, he died.

00:37:36.000 Oh, he did die.

00:37:36.000 Yeah, he did.

00:37:37.000 He left the earth.

00:37:38.000 I was just talking about him the other day with Jamie Masada.

00:37:41.000 Jamie Masada from The Laugh Factory was telling me how sick he was.

00:37:44.000 I had no idea.

00:37:45.000 Yeah, he just went last night, and boy, he was a great comic and a great person.

00:37:50.000 Very, very good person.

00:37:51.000 I've known that guy for a long time.

00:37:53.000 He was always a very, very nice guy.

00:37:55.000 He's still funny, too.

00:37:56.000 Yeah, he was.

00:37:57.000 He's a good comic.

00:37:58.000 He was a funny dude. 0.94

00:38:00.000 Native American, told a lot of jokes about white people stealing his land. 0.75

00:38:04.000 Yeah, that was really funny. 0.86

00:38:06.000 You know what he called?

00:38:07.000 You know what he said? 0.99

00:38:08.000 He goes, God damn it. 0.98

00:38:09.000 He goes, I'm so glad you called because he's like, I'm laying here, dying, and I'm only hearing from B-list comics. 0.99

00:38:19.000 LAUGHTER That's hilarious.

00:38:23.000 He was happy you stopped him for a guest set.

00:38:26.000 And then he goes, that's an old line, because he said Jay and David and everybody had already called him, but he was still writing jokes, you know? 0.99

00:38:34.000 Right at the very end of it, writing a fucking joke. 0.98

00:38:37.000 Yeah, that was the way that guy was. 0.98

00:38:39.000 He was a fun guy.

00:38:40.000 Very, very nice guy and fun guy to be around.

00:38:43.000 Well, look at what's happening with the First Nations people in this country. 1.00

00:38:49.000 You've got to sit up, otherwise people can't hear you.

00:38:51.000 Or drag it to you.

00:38:52.000 You can drag it back.

00:38:53.000 I was saying you should take a look at First Nations stuff in the United States and how that's just...

00:39:00.000 It's very fascinating to become more informed on that subject.

00:39:05.000 Yeah, it's essentially genocide.

00:39:06.000 I mean, that's essentially what happened to the Native Americans. 0.98

00:39:09.000 Their culture was wiped out.

00:39:11.000 They were stuck into these small camps and fenced in and given these areas, and those areas eventually became casinos in some spots.

00:39:17.000 I mean, it's the weirdest absorption of a culture ever.

00:39:20.000 Most of them didn't get any of that money.

00:39:22.000 There's only a couple tribes that got any of that money.

00:39:25.000 I believe it.

00:39:26.000 Remember when that Jack Abramoff walked off with about $30 billion from the Bureau of Indian Affairs?

00:39:32.000 No, I didn't know about this.

00:39:33.000 Who was that guy?

00:39:34.000 He's one of those banksters that got caught in, I think he got four years.

00:39:39.000 God.

00:39:40.000 Yeah, stole all the Bureau of Indian Affairs money, $30 billion. 0.99

00:39:45.000 Well, those casinos are fucking, the whole situation is crazy because it's not like it's all Native Americans that own and operate those places. 1.00

00:39:52.000 Other people are involved, too, that are profiting off of these casinos that are in places where it's supposed to be illegal. 0.99

00:39:57.000 But in Native American land...

00:39:58.000 I got in trouble once because they had me meet some of their Native... 1.00

00:40:04.000 Council or something?

00:40:05.000 Mm-hmm.

00:40:05.000 Yeah?

00:40:05.000 You got in trouble?

00:40:06.000 Yeah, because I go, I know you're Italian.

00:40:10.000 You're Jewish. 0.75

00:40:11.000 I know you're Jewish.

00:40:13.000 I mean, I could tell that they were Italians and Jews. 0.99

00:40:16.000 They weren't frigging Native Americans. 0.96

00:40:18.000 Well, how much Native American do you have to be? 0.94

00:40:20.000 Do you have to be 100%?

00:40:21.000 50. 50?

00:40:24.000 By the Roseanne Barr scale? 1.00

00:40:26.000 No, by the scale to run shit. 0.99

00:40:27.000 By the scale of each tribe makes their own thing. 0.99

00:40:31.000 Whoa.

00:40:31.000 It's mostly 50%.

00:40:33.000 Mostly 50. Or it could be your grandparents, too, 25. But it has to be pretty 50-50.

00:40:40.000 Like in Hawaii, one thing I think is so cool is that they do have a lot of affordable housing for the First Nations people there, you know, the Hawaiian people.

00:40:49.000 And they get their, like, guarantee of school.

00:40:51.000 And, like, they got, you know, Hawaii, the Big Island, Hawaii, is a fantastic socialist state. 0.99

00:40:58.000 And, you know, I think that it's just going to make the big turnaround real quick because China just said no GMOs, so we kicked their ass out.

00:41:08.000 So now I think we're going to, like, have a boom, but we do need some of that technology because I think we want to grow organic seeds with help. 0.96

00:41:18.000 We don't want to reinvent the organic seed.

00:41:22.000 We want to grow organics with technology.

00:41:24.000 So it's an incredible new time of mixing the best of everything.

00:41:34.000 So what you're talking about is not genetically modifying the foods, but using technology to more efficiently till the soil, more efficiently irrigate the crops, more efficiently put nutrients into the ground, things along those lines, right?

00:41:47.000 Yeah.

00:41:48.000 The stuff that works.

00:41:50.000 Well, not only that, the stuff that we know the cause and effect of, we know it's healthy, we know it's a part of the ecosystem, we know that there's just a rich biodiversity when it comes to any place where something's growing.

00:42:00.000 There's bugs involved and rodents involved and bees.

00:42:03.000 There's a lot of things involved.

00:42:05.000 It's not just the plant itself.

00:42:06.000 When you alter the plant, Really?

00:42:30.000 Yeah.

00:42:32.000 Most farmers there have a mix.

00:42:34.000 But I think now it's been tilted to where it's going to become more and more, you know, moving towards 100% organic.

00:42:44.000 No pesticides and this and that and the other.

00:42:46.000 But in order to do that, you've got to reverse a lot of things.

00:42:49.000 Like, you can't let them be spraying overhead anymore.

00:42:52.000 They can't be spraying aluminum and barium all day if you're going to grow. 1.00

00:42:56.000 Are you saying Chemtrails, the aluminum barium shit? 0.95

00:42:59.000 You know, I did a whole sci-fi special on that, a sci-fi channel, a whole episode dedicated to Chemtrails, and the more I paid attention to it, the more I think that people are very confused as to what's going on. 0.98

00:43:10.000 The government, I guarantee without a doubt, has sprayed things on people.

00:43:15.000 They've proven it.

00:43:16.000 They've proven it.

00:43:17.000 They did it.

00:43:17.000 I believe it was Detroit that was a recent thing they talked about doing it in the 1950s.

00:43:21.000 They did tests to see what would happen if the Communists came over here and did some sort of a nuclear attack on the population or a poisonous gas attack.

00:43:31.000 I mean, they sprayed particles so they could track them. 0.98

00:43:34.000 They don't know what the fuck that's going to do to people. 0.96

00:43:36.000 They've done experiments on the weather. 0.97

00:43:39.000 They figured out how to cloud seeding by just doing it.

00:43:41.000 I mean, they knew the science behind it, but it's not like they had a vote on the entire world and asked people, hey, can we seed clouds?

00:43:47.000 Or what do you guys think? 1.00

00:43:49.000 You know, no, fuck it. 1.00

00:43:50.000 They just did it. 1.00

00:43:50.000 The government has done things along those lines for a long time. 1.00

00:43:54.000 Well, some people think that they bring on earthquakes, too, and...

00:43:58.000 Yeah, we talked about that as well on the sci-fi show, but here's the problem.

00:44:01.000 There's science behind those trails.

00:44:04.000 You can track when it's going to happen and when it's not going to happen.

00:44:06.000 It's all based on the humidity in the atmosphere.

00:44:09.000 It's what it's all based on.

00:44:10.000 When you have a jet engine and it burns jet fuel and it's going through the atmosphere, it's creating moisture.

00:44:17.000 And in conditions where it's almost cloud-like, like very hazy, when a jet engine pass through this change of atmosphere and adding moisture creates a cloud.

00:44:27.000 So when you see those patterns and people go, oh, they're spraying us.

00:44:31.000 No, they're actually creating a cloud with the natural effect of a jet engine passing through a certain amount of humidity.

00:44:38.000 That's why you see them in some days, but other days you don't see them.

00:44:40.000 Is that to bring rain?

00:44:41.000 No, it's just a natural side effect of jet travel.

00:44:45.000 Not only that, they've known about it since the 1940s.

00:44:48.000 In the 1940s, there was a paper written by the Army where they were asking about these things that you see behind planes.

00:44:55.000 They called them Consistent condensation trails.

00:44:59.000 Persistent, rather.

00:44:59.000 Persistent condensation trails.

00:45:01.000 They didn't call them contrails back then.

00:45:03.000 So they were trying to figure out what those things are.

00:45:05.000 And they realized that this is just what happens if you get an engine to pass through the environment, burn fuel, and create moisture.

00:45:12.000 That in certain conditions, it creates clouds. 0.71

00:45:15.000 See, when people start talking about aluminum and barium and all that different shit, look, there's aluminum in everything. 1.00

00:45:22.000 Not only that, the ground is filled with fucking aluminum. 0.99

00:45:25.000 And a lot of these guys that are doing these tests, look, we found aluminum in the water. 0.99

00:45:28.000 When you look at their test, it actually says sludge.

00:45:31.000 Like, what in the world are they spraying?

00:45:32.000 This is a conversation I had with a guy on the air.

00:45:34.000 It says sludge.

00:45:36.000 Sludge is dirt.

00:45:37.000 Dirt and water.

00:45:38.000 And he's saying, look, there's all this aluminum in this water.

00:45:40.000 And I'm like, that's not water.

00:45:42.000 That's water with dirt.

00:45:43.000 So what you're telling me is you did a scientific test that showed that dirt tested positive for being dirt.

00:45:48.000 Because that's what it is.

00:45:49.000 Dirt has 7-10% aluminum in it.

00:45:52.000 Sometimes less, sometimes more.

00:45:53.000 Aluminum is one of the most common things you can find in dirt.

00:45:56.000 So when someone does a test and says, look, this aluminum is proof they're spraying the skies.

00:46:00.000 No! 0.99

00:46:01.000 Fucking aluminum is a part of nature. 1.00

00:46:03.000 It's everywhere. 0.99

00:46:04.000 But they are spraying aluminum, though.

00:46:06.000 They're not.

00:46:07.000 If they were spraying it, why would they be spraying it?

00:46:09.000 What would it look like?

00:46:10.000 Well, here's what it wouldn't look like.

00:46:12.000 Clouds.

00:46:12.000 Aluminum's heavy.

00:46:13.000 If you spray it, it's much heavier than moisture.

00:46:16.000 You're saying they're not spraying chemicals on us?

00:46:18.000 They're not.

00:46:19.000 What you're seeing in those things in the clouds?

00:46:21.000 There's real chemtrails.

00:46:22.000 You know what the real chemtrails is?

00:46:23.000 That's what I'm talking about. 0.98

00:46:24.000 They're burning fucking millions of gallons of fuel in the atmosphere. 0.99

00:46:29.000 That's real. 1.00

00:46:30.000 Forget about this craziness of them spraying shit on us that's going to alter our personalities. 0.99

00:46:35.000 They're burning fuel in the sky. 0.99

00:46:37.000 And we all take part of this.

00:46:39.000 You did to get here from Hawaii.

00:46:40.000 I did to get here from Vegas this past weekend.

00:46:44.000 We're all a part of it.

00:46:45.000 But what it is, for sure, is not good. 0.99

00:46:47.000 You're burning fucking fuel in the sky. 0.98

00:46:51.000 That's the real chemtrail. 0.99

00:46:53.000 What you're seeing in those cloud things, they're not spraying chemicals out of clouds.

00:46:56.000 It's not some gigantic conspiracy that the whole world is in the dark about and all these politicians are in on it. 0.93

00:47:02.000 Do you know how many fucking people would have to be quiet every day on a daily basis if they really were spraying chemicals? 0.98

00:47:09.000 Aluminum on people. 0.99

00:47:11.000 And if they were spraying aluminum on people, it wouldn't look like clouds.

00:47:15.000 They look like clouds because they are clouds.

00:47:18.000 I've asked scientists.

00:47:19.000 They said if you had aluminum dust and you sprayed it, it wouldn't look anything like those clouds.

00:47:23.000 Even Monsanto says that they need to have a reflection.

00:47:30.000 They need a reflection because of what's in the soil.

00:47:34.000 A reflection.

00:47:35.000 Yeah, they need to create a mirror.

00:47:38.000 What do you mean?

00:47:39.000 Well that's what it is.

00:47:41.000 It's a mirror.

00:47:42.000 Oh, you're talking about spraying in the sky?

00:47:44.000 Yeah.

00:47:44.000 That Monsanto said that?

00:47:45.000 Yeah.

00:47:46.000 Oh, no, they didn't.

00:47:47.000 Where'd you do this?

00:47:47.000 Yes, they did.

00:47:48.000 No, I guarantee they didn't.

00:47:50.000 It's a mirror effect.

00:47:51.000 Some people say this, I said.

00:47:53.000 Okay, I know.

00:47:53.000 I don't know if I believe it.

00:47:54.000 Those people are fucking crazy. 1.00

00:47:55.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:47:56.000 Those people are fucking crazy. 1.00

00:47:57.000 Monsanto's never said that. 1.00

00:47:58.000 But they said it so they can project the movie that they plan on fucking putting us all through. 0.96

00:48:04.000 Roseanne, you're on that island too long. 0.99

00:48:06.000 You're going crazy eating those genetically modified nuts.

00:48:09.000 People say this! 1.00

00:48:09.000 Those crazy nuts have got your fucking mind warped. 1.00

00:48:12.000 I know people say that, but people also say that all the leaders of the free world are actually reptiles. 1.00

00:48:18.000 They also say that.

00:48:19.000 I don't go that far.

00:48:19.000 I'm glad.

00:48:20.000 I'm glad you have a point. 0.98

00:48:21.000 I bet you fucking think that aliens are coming too. 0.98

00:48:24.000 No. 0.99

00:48:24.000 Are you one of those with the planet Nephilim and all that? 0.99

00:48:28.000 Nephilim.

00:48:29.000 Whatever it's called.

00:48:30.000 I don't go there neither.

00:48:32.000 It's Nibiru is the planet and it's the Anunnaki. 1.00

00:48:35.000 No, no, no, I don't.

00:48:36.000 My daughter.

00:48:37.000 Well, they do know that there's something out way, way out far past Jupiter and past Pluto.

00:48:44.000 And they think that it's bigger actually than Jupiter.

00:48:47.000 They think it might be actually four times the size of Jupiter at least.

00:48:49.000 So they think it might be a brown star, a star that's died out.

00:48:55.000 And they think that this solar system we're in might actually be a binary solar system.

00:49:00.000 So it's a brown dwarf star.

00:49:13.000 No way.

00:49:19.000 Which is this huge belt of objects way out of the edge of the solar system.

00:49:24.000 But there's a thing called the galactic shelf.

00:49:26.000 There's this big drop-off afterwards, which would indicate there's something absolutely massive just outside of it.

00:49:32.000 This is all butchered science, by the way.

00:49:33.000 I'm not a scientist, obviously.

00:49:35.000 So they think if there is a planet out there, a something out there that these people are trying to describe, then more likely it's like a brown dwarf star.

00:49:45.000 But there's no people on it.

00:49:47.000 It's just a giant mass of something.

00:49:50.000 I think there might be people.

00:49:52.000 Well, there could be somewhere if there is us.

00:49:55.000 If there's us, there could be somewhere. 0.99

00:49:56.000 The real problem with the alien thing is that everyone you talk to that says they've met aliens or they know aliens are real, they're almost all fucked up. 0.99

00:50:05.000 Almost all. 0.99

00:50:06.000 Almost 100%.

00:50:07.000 It's a hard, weird...

00:50:09.000 It's like, I don't believe...

00:50:10.000 I don't not believe in aliens.

00:50:12.000 I absolutely believe that aliens can be real.

00:50:14.000 Just like I believe in spiders. 1.00

00:50:16.000 Spiders are fucking crazy. 0.99

00:50:18.000 Have you ever met an alien, though? 1.00

00:50:20.000 No, I don't believe so.

00:50:21.000 I mean, I might have.

00:50:22.000 I think if you're smart enough to come here and be an alien, you're smart enough to also take a human form. 0.98

00:50:27.000 I mean, we have fucking camouflage that we put on jets where you can't see them on radar. 0.98

00:50:31.000 You know, we have hunters that wear, you know, clothes that look like trees and they stand and no one even sees them. 0.99

00:50:36.000 It's real obvious they could pretend to be a person. 0.99

00:50:39.000 If you're so smart you could get here from the planet, fuck yourself, a billion trillion light years away, why can't you pretend to be a person? 0.99

00:50:46.000 What if the government's made them? 1.00

00:50:46.000 What if they're bots? 1.00

00:50:48.000 No, they're fucking bots. 1.00

00:50:49.000 Listen to me. 1.00

00:50:51.000 They're called...

00:50:52.000 No, they are bots and they are created and programmed and set upon innocent people.

00:50:59.000 From our government?

00:50:59.000 This government?

00:51:01.000 From the government of the beast. 0.67

00:51:04.000 The government of the beast.

00:51:05.000 So the money behind the whole thing.

00:51:06.000 The other problem with that is they're not smart enough to make that.

00:51:08.000 So you'd have to get people smart enough to make that.

00:51:10.000 And the consensus science right now is not capable.

00:51:13.000 A bot like that.

00:51:14.000 The consensus science right now is not capable of making a fake person. 1.00

00:51:18.000 That's bullshit. 1.00

00:51:19.000 Have you seen those sex dolls? 1.00

00:51:20.000 They're close, but it's not going to trick me. 0.51

00:51:22.000 Well, that's just what they're showing you. 1.00

00:51:24.000 But they're 50 years ahead of that shit. 1.00

00:51:26.000 The problem with that kind of thinking is the people that are in control... 1.00

00:51:30.000 They have the whole Republican thing sewed up forever.

00:51:34.000 The people that are in control are not smart enough to create all this stuff.

00:51:38.000 This stuff has to be created by scientists.

00:51:40.000 The scientists, it's all documented stuff.

00:51:43.000 Like everything that's being done, all the stuff that's being done today is all based on the technology that's been created by geniuses Yeah.

00:51:56.000 Yeah.

00:52:03.000 Yeah.

00:52:12.000 Clean water or food to the hungry people.

00:52:14.000 It's not that they can't.

00:52:15.000 It's just that they haven't figured out a way to make it so profitable that it's more profitable than destroying the environment and stealing people's resources and leaving behind horrible pollution.

00:52:25.000 Because that's profitable, that's the way they're doing it.

00:52:28.000 The real problem is that corporations are allowed to act like this.

00:52:31.000 Yeah, that is a real problem.

00:52:32.000 That individuals become a part of the corporations and then they lose their humanity.

00:52:35.000 What is it, though?

00:52:36.000 I really want to say this.

00:52:37.000 I'm going to be at, you know, jump in there.

00:52:40.000 But, you know, uh-oh, I think I lost the thought.

00:52:45.000 It's like, you know...

00:52:47.000 I did. 1.00

00:52:48.000 I lost the fucking thought. 1.00

00:52:49.000 That's okay. 1.00

00:52:49.000 It happens. 1.00

00:52:50.000 What I was saying that you reacted to was that they need to figure out how to still remain human.

00:52:57.000 And that the problem is when you have a corporation, you have this big giant group of people that's allowed to act And make money without any consideration.

00:53:06.000 Oh, that's what I was going to say.

00:53:06.000 Yeah, because it's government.

00:53:08.000 You know, the government that they hate.

00:53:09.000 And they all talk about, oh, we can't have a big government.

00:53:12.000 And they're all on government money while they're saying that.

00:53:15.000 The Republicans.

00:53:16.000 All of them. 0.92

00:53:17.000 Everybody who hates the big government is sucking on the tea to big government.

00:53:21.000 And that's their job.

00:53:23.000 They're getting paid to go out there and say we hate big government.

00:53:26.000 We need to keep government in check. 1.00

00:53:28.000 But government is the thing that keeps that shit in check. 0.99

00:53:30.000 Government is the only power that people have. 1.00

00:53:33.000 Government is the way. 1.00

00:53:35.000 There's no law saying it has to be a bunch of corrupt fucking people that are for sale and whores and shit. 1.00

00:53:43.000 That ain't the law. 1.00

00:53:45.000 It could actually be people who understood what being a true representative of the American people means.

00:53:52.000 I think we should start a America. 1.00

00:53:55.000 Here's my solution because I like to think of solutions rather than just yap about problems like the left and the right because they're fucking idiots who can't invent anything. 1.00

00:54:04.000 But, you know, I think we could fix everything in a real big fat fucking hurry. 1.00

00:54:11.000 We could fix the economic system if we wanted to. 0.99

00:54:14.000 Well, we just put fucking regulations on it. 0.99

00:54:16.000 All the things that existed, you know, before Reagan took them away and sold us down the fucking river. 0.99

00:54:22.000 Just put them back. 0.98

00:54:23.000 Did you ever watch that documentary, Inside Job?

00:54:25.000 Yes.

00:54:26.000 Fantastic, isn't it?

00:54:27.000 Wasn't it great, yes.

00:54:28.000 Terrifying.

00:54:28.000 Terrifying and fantastic.

00:54:29.000 And the guy who did it...

00:54:30.000 These guys on Coke. 1.00

00:54:31.000 They're the fucking guys in the Wolves of Wall Street. 0.99

00:54:34.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

00:54:35.000 And the guy who created, I should give him some credit right now, Charles H. Ferguson.

00:54:41.000 And he's awesome.

00:54:42.000 It was a really fantastic job he did.

00:54:44.000 It was just a brilliant and insightful view on how these problems occur, who profits, how these people that start out as...

00:54:54.000 People who are the educators who are recommending, the economic professors that are recommending certain standards, and then those standards get passed, and these guys wind up getting giant jobs with the very banks that profited from them changing the regulations. 0.94

00:55:08.000 It's fucking madness. 0.98

00:55:09.000 It's just thievery. 1.00

00:55:10.000 It's the show game.

00:55:11.000 It's right in front of everybody's face.

00:55:12.000 Well, they get off on that now.

00:55:15.000 They used to like hiding it with their...

00:55:19.000 We're good to go.

00:55:43.000 I think that's what's going to change.

00:55:44.000 And I think it's going to change because of the internet, because this information was all hidden before.

00:55:49.000 This same type of behavior, it's not new.

00:55:52.000 It's not that it just erupted in 2000-whatever.

00:55:55.000 It's been around forever.

00:55:57.000 We have the direct line that we learned about the kind of regulations that Reagan had stopped and what happened from then to the Bush administration.

00:56:06.000 We know all that stuff now, but- They just moved public money into private pockets.

00:56:10.000 That's the short of it.

00:56:12.000 And, you know, they made laws that made it possible for them to do that.

00:56:16.000 But what was so incredible about it is that it seems that, and this is why I ran for president, because it was like, when are they going to put an American person, like a working American person,

00:56:36.000 In a seat at those tables where money is apportioned, will that ever happen?

00:56:41.000 You mean a person that represents the average person, the average folks?

00:56:44.000 Yeah, of the public, of John and Joan Q. Public.

00:56:50.000 So I think we should start a, I think that should be the name of our corporation of Americans, Inc., and that we should apply for, you know, privatized contracts like everybody else is doing.

00:57:05.000 So America Inc.

00:57:06.000 being, you know, there's a friend of mine that's starting a business, more of an avenue rather, for people to fund politicians the way corporations have been funding politicians.

00:57:17.000 And to encourage politicians that are responsible and ethical.

00:57:20.000 And that you could profit from that just as much as you could profit from having worked for some evil corporation.

00:57:27.000 And that if you got like sort of almost like a Kickstarter type thing to represent like a really strong ethical politician.

00:57:34.000 I know everybody says that. 1.00

00:57:34.000 But anytime you put money into it, it's going to be wrong and suck ass. 1.00

00:57:38.000 But if it's all transparent, the idea being if they're not representing a corporation that's going to profit, instead they're representing people that want morality and ethics. 0.99

00:57:47.000 See, the money, there's profit.

00:57:49.000 It's about commonwealth.

00:57:50.000 But do you see what I'm saying though?

00:57:51.000 I do.

00:57:52.000 Like the people would be willing to contribute and then someone else would control it.

00:57:55.000 You're still in their system though.

00:57:56.000 But I don't think it would be their system anymore.

00:57:57.000 It would be our system if it was done correctly.

00:57:59.000 What I'm saying is that our system would be different than the system right now because there wouldn't be a need for profit.

00:58:05.000 So the need for profit exists now where you get the politicians, take the money from the corporations, the corporations give them money because they want profit.

00:58:13.000 This would be people giving them money because they want ethics and morality and a healthy society.

00:58:18.000 So I think so much money comes from taxpayers as it is to have that be an option instead, to have people donate, people that really care about it donate a certain amount.

00:58:28.000 If everybody donates a little, it would be a staggering amount of money out of 300 million people.

00:58:34.000 Yes, and, see, I've gone to therapy.

00:58:42.000 You know, there is the public commonwealth, and, you know, for people who do pay taxes, and they should get something back for the taxes they pay.

00:58:54.000 That's the whole point.

00:58:56.000 Right.

00:58:57.000 And it should be in the form of hospitals, schools, clinics.

00:59:01.000 No doubt.

00:59:02.000 Free legal advice. 1.00

00:59:04.000 I mean, that's what you pay your fucking taxes for, health care. 0.98

00:59:07.000 That's why you pay for roads and other things, too. 0.99

00:59:09.000 You certainly don't pay your taxes to subsidize somebody who's thieving from you.

00:59:14.000 100%.

00:59:15.000 I agree.

00:59:15.000 Not only that, I would take it a step further and say community centers should be mandatory.

00:59:19.000 Absolutely.

00:59:20.000 In almost every community where kids can go, where they're protected, where they can learn things, where they can learn sports and skills and games and places where we can educate inside of communities.

00:59:33.000 I think that we should be just like a gas station.

00:59:35.000 It should be a normal part of every sort of community.

00:59:39.000 Any sort of city or town, and it should be funded.

00:59:42.000 It should be funded by the government because it's there to improve kids and it's there to improve people.

00:59:47.000 But education? 0.98

00:59:48.000 Free as fuck across the board. 0.99

00:59:50.000 Straight through the university, all the way to the end. 1.00

00:59:52.000 We should pay for that.

00:59:54.000 We should make it tough to get into. 0.98

00:59:56.000 You have to work hard, but it's fucking free. 0.95

00:59:59.000 You know, education, college education was free in California before, and that's the first thing Reagan got rid of. 0.98

01:00:05.000 Of course, yeah.

01:00:06.000 When he was governor.

01:00:07.000 I'm not shocked.

01:00:08.000 And that should be free.

01:00:10.000 College, I mean, we can't encourage laziness, but we can certainly support people that want to learn and make it so that it's less of a thing. 0.92

01:00:18.000 I mean, one of the reasons why doctors get so goddamn greedy is because they got a fucking huge bill behind them from medical school. 0.97

01:00:25.000 So many people go into, by the time they're into office, They have these giant fucking bills behind them. 0.99

01:00:29.000 Well, all these kids that are getting out now, they're in a big old financial hole. 0.95

01:00:33.000 You know, they're in a hole, and what it means is, I mean, this is just part of the scam, and all that was, like, because their parents signed, you know, their houses away for the education, then they come and take the house.

01:00:43.000 Hello? 0.91

01:00:44.000 It's just a big friggin' Ponzi scam. 0.95

01:00:47.000 It's the shell game times a million. 0.92

01:00:49.000 Well, it's even more the shell game when it's obvious that when you find out that the banks actually banked on people faulting on their loans.

01:00:57.000 Yeah.

01:00:58.000 Defaulting.

01:00:58.000 People falling apart and have their homes repossessed.

01:01:01.000 They actually banked on that.

01:01:02.000 I know.

01:01:02.000 They profited off of it.

01:01:03.000 That one really pissed me off because it was like, you know, you know then what that means.

01:01:09.000 Like, you know what that means in terms of cost, real cost. 0.87

01:01:14.000 Not bullshit paper cost, but real cost to a community. 0.99

01:01:17.000 That means a lot more little kids are going to get beaten to death. 0.97

01:01:21.000 And it means a lot more little kids are going to get trafficked.

01:01:25.000 Just because of poverty?

01:01:27.000 Yeah.

01:01:27.000 Putting that on people.

01:01:29.000 So you can give your fourth mistress another endangered species cape. 1.00

01:01:38.000 That's what I'd say, the guillotine, but they made me stop it.

01:01:41.000 That might be one of the best quotes in the history of the internet.

01:01:43.000 Give your fourth mistress an endangered species cape. 0.78

01:01:47.000 Cape.

01:01:47.000 What kind of cape would you make?

01:01:49.000 Like a rhino cape?

01:01:52.000 Human skulls?

01:01:52.000 Baby skulls.

01:01:53.000 Just stitched all together so it clacks when you walk?

01:01:55.000 Virgin blood vials. 0.79

01:01:57.000 Dangling around your neck. 0.98

01:01:59.000 Yeah, with a fox trim.

01:02:01.000 That's a real baller, though, if he's got four mistresses. 0.99

01:02:04.000 Well, yeah, but until you see him, like my boyfriend always says, whenever we see a, you know, when we're here in California, we always see a rich old fucker and his, you know, stripper wife and Johnny always says, that is proof that our currency is sound. 0.99

01:02:22.000 LAUGHTER That's funny. 0.99

01:02:26.000 Proof that our currency is sound.

01:02:28.000 That is actually very funny.

01:02:30.000 But, you know, I mean, when you make everything for sale, you know, money doesn't mean anything. 0.99

01:02:38.000 That's why I think they're such fucking geniuses. 1.00

01:02:40.000 Here's how fucking stupid they are, but they think they're smart. 1.00

01:02:44.000 Who's that? 1.00

01:02:44.000 The financial wizards. 1.00

01:02:49.000 The smart guys.

01:02:51.000 Okay.

01:02:52.000 The money guys.

01:02:53.000 The money guys.

01:02:54.000 Yeah.

01:02:54.000 Okay.

01:02:55.000 They're so fucking stupid. 1.00

01:02:57.000 They make everything at a certain point. 1.00

01:03:00.000 It's gonna hit a wall and end.

01:03:03.000 They put that right in there, too.

01:03:05.000 It can't go on.

01:03:07.000 Right.

01:03:07.000 It's not sustainable.

01:03:09.000 It's going to crash and you're going to fucking get caught. 1.00

01:03:11.000 But I think that's what they like, because they're sociopaths. 0.99

01:03:15.000 They like the fucking people over part so much, you know, that they just keep denying that there's going to be a reckoning. 0.99

01:03:22.000 But of course there is, and that's already happening. 0.99

01:03:26.000 There's a fucking reckoning right now on Wall Street, and everybody knows it, but nobody talks about it. 0.94

01:03:30.000 Well, I think that's just what people do, or ordinarily, without logic and without enlightenment. 1.00

01:03:36.000 If they're a fucking moron! 1.00

01:03:39.000 But it's what we do as far as the pollution of the environment, as far as global warming. 1.00

01:03:44.000 Smart people would not do that because they would factor in the true cost, not the one in the books that you cook.

01:03:52.000 Oh, I'm 100% in agreement with you, but I think that the consequences of their actions are just something they're like, ah, I'll deal with that eventually.

01:03:58.000 I don't think they're like engineering this idea of infinite growth. 0.97

01:04:02.000 Yeah, then they hit the wall, and they fuck over like all the old people and everything. 1.00

01:04:07.000 They fuck over every... 1.00

01:04:08.000 And then right away, what's the first thing they do? 1.00

01:04:11.000 They start working on the other side of the street.

01:04:13.000 They go to rehab...

01:04:15.000 Right.

01:04:16.000 And then they come out, you know, I've been sober for 14 days. 0.99

01:04:20.000 And then you have to like say, God damn, you're a hero. 0.99

01:04:22.000 Good for you! 1.00

01:04:25.000 It's such a hypocritical bullshit. 1.00

01:04:27.000 And then they go and they work to try to stop corruption. 1.00

01:04:30.000 That's my favorite.

01:04:31.000 Yeah, that is what they do.

01:04:32.000 They work to expose corruption and write books on, this is our...

01:04:35.000 It's all like so crazy. 0.99

01:04:38.000 I think, though, what I'm saying is that I think people do shit when they think that... 0.99

01:04:44.000 It's like, why do people smoke cigarettes? 0.99

01:04:45.000 They know the consequences are cancer.

01:04:46.000 They know they're going to get it.

01:04:47.000 But they're like, ah, eventually.

01:04:50.000 But the smoke right now is better for me than not having the smoke, so I want it right now. 0.99

01:04:55.000 The consequences, fuck it, I'll deal with them later. 0.99

01:04:56.000 And I think that's a lot of times what people are saying when they're creating these sort of laws that allow them to... 1.00

01:05:03.000 The concept of infinite growth doesn't make any sense.

01:05:06.000 It doesn't work on paper.

01:05:07.000 There's only a certain amount of resources, a certain amount of space on Earth.

01:05:09.000 If you just keep counting numbers, you're going to run out of space.

01:05:12.000 I think they're going like this. 1.00

01:05:14.000 This shit is over. 1.00

01:05:16.000 I'm getting mine now. 1.00

01:05:17.000 As much as I can grab.

01:05:19.000 I don't think they're that advanced.

01:05:20.000 I think what people are doing is just doing what people have always done.

01:05:23.000 Acting without that much concern for the consequences because they don't have to deal with the consequences right now.

01:05:28.000 It's like when you get up in the morning and you look at there's a cake from last night that looks oh so delicious and it's right next to all your fresh vegetables that you were thinking about making a hemp protein shake with.

01:05:40.000 I eat a lot of time to go for that cake.

01:05:42.000 You know why? 1.00

01:05:43.000 Because fuck it. 1.00

01:05:44.000 It's right there. 1.00

01:05:45.000 You know, I know it's bad for you.

01:05:46.000 I know it's sugar. 0.97

01:05:47.000 I know I'm going to feel like shit later, but right now I'm going to feel good. 0.98

01:05:51.000 I'm going to feel good when I eat that red velvet. 0.99

01:05:53.000 Oh, yummy, yummy, yummy. 1.00

01:05:54.000 And I think that's what these crazy fucks are doing. 1.00

01:05:58.000 But you're not going to do that if your intent is to, you know, lose two pounds by three days from now. 0.99

01:06:05.000 No, you're right.

01:06:05.000 So you're going to, you know, you need Adderall.

01:06:08.000 I don't really go for the cake.

01:06:10.000 I'm pretty healthy.

01:06:11.000 But what I'm saying is it's an instinct.

01:06:12.000 No, but I mean, if you're on focus...

01:06:15.000 Well, it's a lower instinct.

01:06:18.000 You're right. 0.99

01:06:18.000 You know, it's based on the Peter Principle and all that shit. 0.99

01:06:21.000 What's the Peter Principle? 0.98

01:06:22.000 What's that one? 0.92

01:06:24.000 Penis Principle? 0.99

01:06:25.000 No, what's that one? 0.89

01:06:26.000 I can't think of it.

01:06:28.000 Whatever can go wrong will go wrong.

01:06:30.000 Oh, okay.

01:06:31.000 Whatever's that one?

01:06:31.000 I can't remember.

01:06:34.000 What is that called?

01:06:36.000 You know what I mean.

01:06:37.000 Yes.

01:06:38.000 Maybe it's a generational thing. 0.99

01:06:40.000 Goddammit, you've broken my brain. 0.99

01:06:40.000 I normally have that right there. 0.99

01:06:42.000 But I think, well, you know what?

01:06:43.000 It could, with a slight alter...

01:06:46.000 Murphy's Law.

01:06:46.000 Yeah, Murphy's Law.

01:06:48.000 Monsanto could fix Murphy's Law.

01:06:50.000 I was confusing it with Moore's Law.

01:06:52.000 I wonder, how could Monsanto do it?

01:06:55.000 Monsanto could come up with a chip...

01:06:57.000 Uh-huh, a chip.

01:06:58.000 Put it in people's head or teeth, wherever.

01:07:01.000 Yeah, but you know what they would do with that chip? 1.00

01:07:02.000 They would just fucking download your brain and turn you into a robot. 0.99

01:07:06.000 That's what they would do. 1.00

01:07:07.000 Maybe people need to be turned into robots. 0.98

01:07:09.000 The NSA came out today, there was an article that said the NSA has 100% access to iPhones.

01:07:14.000 They can look at your camera, read your texts, listen to your microphone, like keep your microphone on, even if your phone is off.

01:07:21.000 Did you not know that?

01:07:23.000 Is that a surprise to people?

01:07:26.000 That's 100% access?

01:07:27.000 That's pretty fascinating.

01:07:28.000 The thing about, and this is one of the reasons why our podcast is sponsored by Ting.

01:07:34.000 Ting's a company that uses Android phones, and what I like...

01:07:37.000 See, did you get an Android phone?

01:07:39.000 Yeah, what I like about Android phones?

01:07:40.000 Yeah, you got an Android.

01:07:41.000 You can take the battery out, so you can shut it off.

01:07:44.000 Not saying that the government is really listening to you, but the idea that that's possible that anybody could just turn your microphone on at any time, or turn your camera on at any time, to me sounds ridiculous.

01:07:53.000 But we know that the NSA has that capability.

01:07:55.000 If you have an Android phone, you just take the battery out.

01:07:58.000 You can't do that with an iPhone. 0.98

01:07:59.000 iPhone's a lot of weird shit about the iPhone. 0.89

01:08:01.000 The memory's all in there. 0.97

01:08:02.000 You can't get it out.

01:08:04.000 The battery's in there.

01:08:05.000 You can't get it out.

01:08:06.000 No access.

01:08:07.000 People are dying to make...

01:08:08.000 Oh, yeah.

01:08:09.000 People are dying making those cell phones. 0.55

01:08:11.000 Killing themselves.

01:08:12.000 You know what's hilarious about that?

01:08:13.000 I had this conversation with this guy who was trying...

01:08:16.000 I have a friend, not a good friend, but this guy that I know that always tries to give me the Republican point of view on things.

01:08:21.000 Like, he's a sensible, logical guy.

01:08:23.000 You know, we were talking about this factory in China where people are jumping off the roofs.

01:08:27.000 And he goes, well, do you know how many people are working at that factory?

01:08:30.000 And I said, yeah, it's like about half a million people or something crazy.

01:08:34.000 And he goes, and if you look at the average population of a half a million people, the amount of suicides is pretty standard.

01:08:40.000 And I said, yeah, but they're killing themselves at work. 0.99

01:08:43.000 How many fucking people kill themselves at work? 1.00

01:08:46.000 Like, that's not standard. 1.00

01:08:47.000 There's nothing standard about that. 0.96

01:08:48.000 That's ridiculous. 0.99

01:08:49.000 That concept is ridiculous. 1.00

01:08:51.000 I call it idiotocracy. 1.00

01:08:53.000 It's like a fucking, a tower of bullshit. 1.00

01:08:58.000 There's a lot of people that don't want to be silly, though. 1.00

01:09:00.000 You know what I mean? 0.91

01:09:00.000 They want to be sensible. 0.91

01:09:02.000 Come on! 0.61

01:09:03.000 But, you know, we have enough fact and data now that we can make informed decisions.

01:09:07.000 We have enough stuff to make informed intelligent decisions that work for everyone, not just the few at the expense of the many, but for everyone.

01:09:21.000 And, you know, that... 0.90

01:09:24.000 I feel like, hey, you know, yeah, we're on our way out and everything's fucked up and dying and over. 0.98

01:09:29.000 But I think it's our karma to fucking do it right this time. 0.96

01:09:33.000 Because, you know, helping each other and such, you know, trying to take a step back from needing so much and being more into sharing and new thoughts, new solutions, solution-based thinking and stuff. 0.95

01:09:48.000 I think this is a great time for that and we're really evolving into that.

01:09:52.000 And people can't back away from it anymore.

01:09:55.000 So it's not over.

01:09:57.000 Well, I think that, you know, I do think it's over for humans, for human life.

01:10:02.000 I do. 0.97

01:10:03.000 But I think that when people get that in their head, it's going to make them really mutate quickly and go, oh my God, I better get right with my maker and actually start fucking doing some of the shit that I know is, you know, the right thing to do just because I'm a human being. 0.98

01:10:21.000 Right? 0.98

01:10:22.000 I think that's happening.

01:10:23.000 Right.

01:10:23.000 I think that's happening as well.

01:10:25.000 That's why I have hope.

01:10:26.000 I think that's evident in what I read online.

01:10:29.000 I mean, even points that I don't agree with.

01:10:31.000 The extreme left points, the extreme progressive positions, which a lot of times I don't take those positions.

01:10:37.000 But I like the fact that those positions are really public now.

01:10:41.000 What I like is how the left...

01:10:43.000 I like to watch it on Twitter, you know?

01:10:46.000 I like how the left goes right for character assassination.

01:10:51.000 But then you know that's what people do when they've lost the argument.

01:10:55.000 Ad hominems, yeah.

01:10:56.000 Well, you know, sometimes they're good points though. 0.98

01:10:58.000 It's good to consider how fucked up someone is before you listen to their point of view on something. 0.98

01:11:02.000 If you know that they're kicking babies in their spare time, it's probably something to pay attention to. 0.99

01:11:06.000 I know what you mean though.

01:11:07.000 Yeah.

01:11:08.000 Like, yeah.

01:11:09.000 I'm just trying to say, like, just because somebody, you know, they're trying to, the real thing is that they want the monopoly of definition.

01:11:19.000 That's what they're after.

01:11:19.000 That's the real war.

01:11:21.000 They want things to mean what they want them to mean.

01:11:23.000 Yes.

01:11:23.000 That's a very good statement.

01:11:24.000 And they try to censor people who are saying something else.

01:11:27.000 That's a very powerful statement, which you said, the monopoly of definition.

01:11:31.000 That's so, so true.

01:11:32.000 And how they try to censor the debate.

01:11:35.000 In a free society, we have debate which has more than one opinion.

01:11:39.000 Yes, you're 100% right.

01:11:41.000 Unlike Monsanto Science, it's the same mental thing.

01:11:47.000 It's a rigid ideology.

01:11:49.000 Yeah, and it makes no sense.

01:11:51.000 It doesn't directly apply data and fact. 0.98

01:11:57.000 What's also, I think there's a lot of these people that are involved in both sides, whether it's the conservative movement for sure, or the really progressive movement, that are really just assholes that want to get heard. 0.99

01:12:08.000 No shit. 0.99

01:12:08.000 They really just love giving their opinion, and they love the attention that it creates, even if they have a point. 0.99

01:12:14.000 Well, that's part of MKUltra mind control, you see.

01:12:17.000 I like how many times you use the word binary, because it is a binary.

01:12:23.000 And what MKUltra does is, it's like these two groups, they're like, you know, they both work for the same people.

01:12:32.000 They both get paid from the same people, the Democrats and the Republicans.

01:12:36.000 And what they do is they try to monopolize the definition so they can fundraise.

01:12:43.000 And I say it's like the fundraising.

01:12:45.000 Those parties are the fundraising arm of the prison, military, media, wedding, industrial complex, you know.

01:12:54.000 I mean, they just want to confuse people so that people vote against their own better judgment and their own best interests.

01:13:01.000 And that's their strategy.

01:13:03.000 That's their whole MKUltra strategy. 0.80

01:13:05.000 How they get people to stop thinking that they deserve an answer and a solution for the tax monies they pay.

01:13:13.000 That is what the Tea Party was originally about before it got waylaid by punk-ass hoes. 1.00

01:13:21.000 Well, isn't that what always happens, though?

01:13:23.000 I mean, Occupy Wall Street, they said at one point in time they think that one out of three people in Occupy Wall Street was really like FBI. They're really like some undercover agents.

01:13:31.000 They infiltrate.

01:13:32.000 And doesn't that happen with everything?

01:13:34.000 It happened with the Tea Party as well.

01:13:36.000 The people that thought that the Tea Party was like, look, we're going to...

01:13:39.000 Demand a responsible government and a government that follows the Constitution. 1.00

01:13:43.000 Then all of a sudden these crazy fucks got involved in racism and nuttiness. 1.00

01:13:47.000 What better way to defuse a movement than to marginalize them by making them look ridiculous? 1.00

01:13:53.000 Well, they do send in their people. 0.96

01:13:55.000 Always have, always will.

01:13:56.000 The reason they do that is monopoly of definition again.

01:13:59.000 And it is that then they can control their own opposition.

01:14:03.000 And, you know, that works.

01:14:06.000 That's how power does it.

01:14:08.000 Well, that's what ideologies do, too.

01:14:09.000 The monopoly of definition that you described, which is such a great phrase, again.

01:14:14.000 But that is the issue with the left.

01:14:17.000 That's the issue with the right.

01:14:18.000 That's the issue with having teams.

01:14:20.000 It's like you decide that this is how we look at things and how we look at things is how they are.

01:14:26.000 Well, the left does it for a certain reason because that's how they fundraise out of, like, the left begs.

01:14:33.000 Like, the Democrats beg for money.

01:14:36.000 It's like, we need $3 by midnight.

01:14:38.000 Have you got those emails?

01:14:41.000 No, I'm not a part of that list.

01:14:43.000 And, you know, they're begging for money.

01:14:46.000 And the Republicans, like, they beg for money too, but they demand it like they have the right to it because it's sovereignty that they're defending.

01:14:54.000 But they're not. 0.98

01:14:54.000 They're frigging yanking people to get their money. 0.98

01:14:57.000 That's all they're doing. 0.97

01:14:58.000 Both of them, they work together.

01:15:01.000 They are a system of mind control that helps them move public money into private pockets. 1.00

01:15:08.000 It's so fucking ridiculous. 1.00

01:15:11.000 I mean... 0.99

01:15:13.000 I feel sorry for people that they have been so manipulated and, you know, all the time they're losing everything.

01:15:22.000 Yeah.

01:15:22.000 No, it's horrible.

01:15:23.000 It is.

01:15:24.000 It's a disgusting aspect of human beings and a weird thing.

01:15:28.000 We're tribal people and I think ultimately we have that instinct to be a part of a group.

01:15:32.000 And when people are part of that group, you see the group think is so strong, it's so prevalent.

01:15:37.000 I've had conversations with people about anything.

01:15:39.000 Oh, I love talking about that.

01:15:40.000 I had a conversation with a guy who, before this conversation, I respected him online, about abortion.

01:15:47.000 Richard Dawkins has said that a fetus inside a woman's body is less human than a pig is. 0.98

01:15:58.000 Just as human as a pig. 0.99

01:15:59.000 He needs to read that Dale Carnegie book. 0.98

01:16:02.000 It was just a weird statement.

01:16:04.000 And I tweeted, well, that's silly because everyone knows that a fetus can become a human being.

01:16:09.000 That's the idea behind abortion. 0.99

01:16:12.000 You're being very disingenuous if you pretend that the idea behind abortion isn't that.

01:16:16.000 What you're doing is you're stopping a potential human being. 0.98

01:16:19.000 A pig is not... 0.88

01:16:20.000 You're not going to stop. 0.98

01:16:21.000 It's not going to become a person. 0.99

01:16:22.000 It doesn't turn into a carriage or a fucking pumpkin. 1.00

01:16:25.000 It's a pig. 1.00

01:16:27.000 A fetus is a part of a person. 0.98

01:16:28.000 That has nothing to do with a woman's right to choose. 1.00

01:16:30.000 The woman's right to choose is a completely different... 1.00

01:16:32.000 So he starts calling me a Republican and saying that I don't respect...

01:16:37.000 Isn't this all about controlling a woman's body? 1.00

01:16:39.000 Absolutely not.

01:16:40.000 Well, they want you to say what they are saying.

01:16:42.000 Yes. 1.00

01:16:43.000 They're a bunch of fucking, you know, right-wing... 1.00

01:16:46.000 And they want to diffuse anything that you're saying that might be logical. 1.00

01:16:49.000 Well, they're commies, too.

01:16:50.000 There's a lot of that, yeah. 1.00

01:16:51.000 And their shit is like, you know, it's just like, it's going to go my way or the highway. 1.00

01:16:57.000 We don't allow... 1.00

01:16:59.000 You know, to me, it's like this. 1.00

01:17:00.000 We don't allow old women to open their fucking mouth in the general theater. 1.00

01:17:05.000 Excuse me, bitch. 1.00

01:17:07.000 That's what it feels like to me. 0.99

01:17:09.000 So that's why I just go, well, you wait a minute.

01:17:12.000 Wait a minute.

01:17:13.000 Well, with this guy that I was talking to, I don't think it was that.

01:17:15.000 I think he was just following the ideology.

01:17:18.000 You're always supposed to support a woman's right to choose, and you're always supposed to marginalize anything that would point to the idea of abortion being a bad thing.

01:17:27.000 And I'm saying they're not mutually exclusive.

01:17:30.000 I think a woman should be able to do whatever she wants to do with her body. 1.00

01:17:32.000 I can't control that.

01:17:34.000 It does get crazy when you're talking about aborting an eight-month-old fetus.

01:17:38.000 I mean, at what point in time?

01:17:39.000 When does it get crazy?

01:17:40.000 If it's not crazy when it's a group of cells, I agree.

01:17:43.000 You're pulling out a group of cells.

01:17:44.000 Is it crazy when it's that big?

01:17:45.000 Is it crazy when it's that big?

01:17:46.000 Is it crazy when it can exist outside your body?

01:17:49.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:17:51.000 But to say that this is not a discussion for debate.

01:17:53.000 That's a huge subject and it needs a lot of debate.

01:17:57.000 And, you know, you have to look at what's being censored.

01:17:59.000 And there's a reason why it's being censored.

01:18:02.000 People are uncomfortable with it.

01:18:03.000 They're also uncomfortable with their decision.

01:18:05.000 That, you know, they want to be able to have an abortion. 0.99

01:18:07.000 And if you say, well, okay, you know you're killing a potential human being.

01:18:10.000 Like, oh, no, no, no, I'm getting rid of some cells.

01:18:12.000 Okay, at what point in time has it become a person?

01:18:14.000 Because that's an actual conversation.

01:18:15.000 I think that's a real conversation.

01:18:17.000 To pretend that it's not is a part of that whole ideology thing.

01:18:20.000 It's a part of that thing where people... 1.00

01:18:22.000 Is your fucking phone going off? 1.00

01:18:23.000 Yeah, it's probably my kid. 1.00

01:18:25.000 How dare you?

01:18:26.000 I'm sorry.

01:18:26.000 Your kid's going, Mom, the CIA's at the house.

01:18:29.000 It is my kid.

01:18:30.000 Uh-oh, wait a minute.

01:18:31.000 I just gotta sit.

01:18:32.000 I'm on the radio.

01:18:33.000 I'll call you.

01:18:35.000 Are you okay?

01:18:39.000 I told him I was going here.

01:18:43.000 Anyway, sorry. 1.00

01:18:47.000 It's also fucking stupid. 1.00

01:18:49.000 It has a simple solution. 1.00

01:18:52.000 For people like me, we think different than other people, but we can see that there's a simple and much cheaper solution to all of these problems if logic, data, and fact are applied.

01:19:06.000 I think they are being applied now more than ever before.

01:19:08.000 And that's why I have hope.

01:19:10.000 And also, I think this idea of teams, of Republican left-wing, Democrat, or Democrat left-wing, Republican right-wing, that's looking more and more silly every day, especially when you look at Obama. 0.99

01:19:22.000 There's so many people that fucking support Obama and don't say a goddamn thing about the shit that he's done in comparison to the shit they were on Bush about. 0.99

01:19:29.000 It's the same stuff! 1.00

01:19:30.000 It's the same stuff.

01:19:31.000 And all these liberals have proven to be massive cowards by not coming out against him the way they came out against Bush on a million different things, debatable as they may be.

01:19:41.000 You have to look at what happens to you when you do that. 0.65

01:19:44.000 You know how it works.

01:19:46.000 Twitter activism, as it's called.

01:19:48.000 It's just character assassination. 0.99

01:19:50.000 You ruin fucking people's lives because their opinion isn't in line with your sanctioned opinion that you were paid to get out there and lobby. 0.99

01:19:59.000 You know, I mean, seriously, people's lives are ruined if they stand up against power. 1.00

01:20:04.000 Let's not forget that.

01:20:06.000 Oh, for sure.

01:20:07.000 Especially if it's a massive amount of power.

01:20:09.000 He's after whistleblowers now.

01:20:11.000 Isn't that fascinating that he, in his, the campaign website, there was a whole thing about giving whistleblowers relief and helping them expose injustices. 0.99

01:20:23.000 And then they yanked all that shit out. 0.98

01:20:25.000 They knew what to say though. 1.00

01:20:27.000 They knew what it took.

01:20:31.000 What do you think that is?

01:20:31.000 Do you think that once you get into office they let you know what the real deal is?

01:20:35.000 You can talk all that shit you want while you're campaigning, but once you get into office then you find out what the fuck's up? 0.99

01:20:42.000 You know, I think it's the system. 1.00

01:20:44.000 The system is what's corrupt.

01:20:47.000 The people are just stuck in the system.

01:20:50.000 I think if the system were changed, and it would have to be changed by the people and the people's government, the people's application of their will that would result in accurate government, you know, for the people, I think,

01:21:06.000 you know... 0.99

01:21:08.000 I think without that, it'll continue to replicate no matter who's there because it's stupid and it doesn't work. 1.00

01:21:17.000 It's fucking passe. 1.00

01:21:18.000 It's obsolete. 1.00

01:21:19.000 It's time to stop defending what's already fucking dead so you can yank people and get them to send you fucking money. 0.98

01:21:28.000 I think we should just be done with money. 0.99

01:21:31.000 Serious. 0.98

01:21:32.000 We don't fucking need money. 0.97

01:21:34.000 And you know what? 0.99

01:21:35.000 People don't need gold either.

01:21:37.000 They need water. 0.99

01:21:39.000 So let's make water the new fucking currency or something. 0.99

01:21:42.000 Let's move away from it. 0.99

01:21:44.000 It ain't that hard. 0.98

01:21:45.000 It's not that hard to create a fucking just economic money system. 0.99

01:21:50.000 And still have rich fucking people too. 0.99

01:21:53.000 How do you have rich people if there's no money? 1.00

01:21:55.000 Well, you know...

01:21:59.000 You would have other means to create commonwealth.

01:22:04.000 And so some people would accrue more.

01:22:07.000 But wouldn't that be money?

01:22:09.000 No, not necessarily. 1.00

01:22:11.000 I completely agree with you that the system is fucked. 0.99

01:22:13.000 And I think that patching it up is like taking a Windows 95 computer and trying to make it work in today's internet and fucking adding a bunch of shit to it and tweaking. 1.00

01:22:23.000 It's a broken system. 0.97

01:22:24.000 Throw it out and get a new one.

01:22:25.000 Yeah, and we're smart enough. 0.99

01:22:27.000 I mean, we've got enough smart fucking people. 0.98

01:22:41.000 What do you think is the best example of a working government in this planet? 1.00

01:22:46.000 Is there one country that really stands out as really having their shit together? 0.99

01:22:51.000 It seems like I'm liking Iceland because I'm always like, where the fuck am I going to go? 0.99

01:22:56.000 I always look around.

01:22:58.000 But Iceland, yeah, because they dumped the Fed and then they started arresting bankers and doing something different and they got richer for doing it because they're not imposing a system of debt on people.

01:23:10.000 They're doing something smarter.

01:23:12.000 And, you know, I mean, you know, I just have hope that that would happen here, because we could nationalize the Federal Reserve and solve all our problems, let's save the dollar.

01:23:23.000 But, I mean, nobody will friggin' do it.

01:23:26.000 Yeah, I know.

01:23:26.000 I agree with you about Iceland as well.

01:23:28.000 I think that is also, if there's an example of one country that can do it, those are people.

01:23:33.000 And so that's a better, that's a clear example that your statement is that the system is corrupt.

01:23:39.000 Well, that's proof right there.

01:23:40.000 Because you're seeing a system that's not corrupt, and the people are benefiting from it, and it's a healthy society. 0.89

01:23:45.000 People, everything will work just fucking fine.

01:23:48.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:23:48.000 Everything knows what it's supposed to do already if you just get the fucking people that are, you know, fucking it up out of the way. 0.99

01:23:56.000 And the best way to get them out of the way, in my opinion, is to remind them that they could rejoin the human race. 0.98

01:24:02.000 They don't have to be on that other side in, you know, in that limbo exile thing that I know they live in because I've seen it.

01:24:09.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:24:09.000 They could rejoin it and then fucking come up with a solution that actually works. 0.97

01:24:12.000 It ain't that fucking hard. 0.99

01:24:14.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:24:15.000 People are doing shit like grandmothers all over this world. 0.99

01:24:18.000 They're fixing their community with a rubber band and a paper clip. 0.99

01:24:21.000 It's not that fucking hard to have everything work well.

01:24:25.000 The default position of the universe is to the positive. 0.94

01:24:28.000 Everything fucking already knows what to do, except for, you know, criminals at the top, a small group of criminals at the top. 0.79

01:24:36.000 I think you're 100% right and I think that I liken our society to that of like an alcoholic's personality. 1.00

01:24:41.000 Like someone who's trapped in a terrible pattern and keeps repeating the same problems over and over again and drinking and driving and you know just fucking killing their body.

01:24:49.000 I think that that probably is how our society is.

01:24:53.000 That we've got addicted to the idea of extracting money out of this broken system To the point where people are so addicted to money and so addicted to the benefits of having it that they're not willing to say, hey, you know, I'm a part of something that's ultimately destructive, even to me and to my children.

01:25:07.000 Well, it's that gambling mentality.

01:25:09.000 If people think they're getting something for nothing, that's like the greatest friggin' drug they got, you know?

01:25:15.000 Yeah, they like getting over.

01:25:16.000 And, you know, they disguise what it is, but it's thinking you're going to get more than everybody else.

01:25:22.000 That's so true.

01:25:23.000 People love getting over, don't they?

01:25:25.000 They just love it.

01:25:26.000 They love getting over. 0.99

01:25:27.000 I have a friend that will try to get bargains on fucking everything. 0.99

01:25:31.000 And I'm like, dude, you have money. 0.99

01:25:33.000 Why are you haggling over an extra $20 off of something or $5 off or whatever the fuck it is? 0.88

01:25:38.000 He goes, I like getting over. 0.98

01:25:40.000 I just like getting over.

01:25:42.000 He goes, if I could get it for free, I'd want to get it for free.

01:25:44.000 People want to get things for free and they're rich!

01:25:46.000 Yeah, they do.

01:25:46.000 They want that thrill of figuring out how to do it.

01:25:49.000 I'll tell you, I got rich so I know firsthand how it works on you.

01:25:53.000 I know exactly how it works on you.

01:25:55.000 I'm sure.

01:25:56.000 Yeah, well, it works on you.

01:25:58.000 It does.

01:25:59.000 Until there's, you know, there's nothing left of you.

01:26:03.000 And that's a hard thing. 0.97

01:26:05.000 That's hard when you can't fucking stomach it no more. 0.81

01:26:08.000 But then you can go, oh, I'm going to not do that no more. 0.81

01:26:12.000 With you, was it hard going from not having money to being one of the richest women in the history of Hollywood over a period of how many years? 0.80

01:26:23.000 Three years.

01:26:24.000 That's insane. 0.99

01:26:26.000 It was fucking cha-ching right away. 0.99

01:26:30.000 It was like, when I first came to LA my first night there, like they saw me, I got a TV show the first night there. 0.99

01:26:40.000 Then I got the Tonight Show.

01:26:42.000 Then I got a Julio Iglesias tour that was ten times the money my husband worked at the post office ever made.

01:26:49.000 So, you know, I mean, it was cha-ching right from the get-go in L.A., dream come true, you know?

01:26:55.000 Wow.

01:26:56.000 And you were one of the old-school comedy store gangsters, too.

01:26:59.000 You came up in the era where things were probably one of the most powerful eras in the history of stand-up comedy.

01:27:06.000 If you go back and look at, like, the origins from Lenny Bruce to Carlin to what have you, your era of the comedy store is one of the most powerful eras ever.

01:27:16.000 Yeah, it is, but there was one that preceded me.

01:27:18.000 That was the one where, you know, they had The Strike and all the comics.

01:27:23.000 I mean, there was, like, David Steinberg and, you know, those guys.

01:27:29.000 They're, like, in their 70s or late 70s now.

01:27:32.000 But a whole bunch of guys like that.

01:27:34.000 Oh, God, I'm so bad on names, I'm embarrassed.

01:27:36.000 But, you know, a whole...

01:27:40.000 Elaine Boosler, just a little bit before me, they were the ones that created and broke down, you know, so they did great work.

01:27:49.000 Yeah, for folks who don't know, the way LA works is for the longest time, nobody got paid.

01:27:55.000 You would go up and you would do spots and the clubs would be packed every night and the comedians would be starving to death, especially the local ones that are just sort of starting out, but they would be providing all this entertainment but not sharing in any of the profit.

01:28:08.000 The comedy clubs weren't willing to budge.

01:28:11.000 They were like, look, this is the way it is.

01:28:13.000 There was a book that was written on it, right?

01:28:15.000 Ari Shaffir was reading it recently.

01:28:17.000 I forget what it's called.

01:28:18.000 See if you can find that, Jamie.

01:28:20.000 But the strike itself was very important, and now comedians get paid for their sets.

01:28:26.000 Yeah.

01:28:26.000 It's kind of weird that they would think that it would be okay to have people perform, and you profit off them performing, but you keep all the money.

01:28:34.000 Well, we saw that in Denver, too.

01:28:36.000 We had a little club there, and everybody worked for free.

01:28:41.000 And the owners, like, started buying second homes and, you know.

01:28:47.000 Yeah, I'm dying up here.

01:28:48.000 That's the name of the book.

01:28:49.000 Oh, yeah, I have that.

01:28:51.000 You know, when you see the owner who's another comic, and he's buying his second house and, you know, adding on to the club, you're like, and he's still doing time on Monday.

01:29:02.000 He's still working the club.

01:29:04.000 You know, I mean...

01:29:05.000 Yeah, they think they're doing you some good by letting you perform.

01:29:08.000 That's what they said to us, but we're like, you know what, you're going to pay.

01:29:11.000 And because they won in L.A., they did.

01:29:13.000 So it went all across the country, the ripple of that. 0.98

01:29:19.000 Yeah, the idea behind it is pretty fucking gross. 0.92

01:29:21.000 And just because the comics are benefiting from it, what, you're not? 0.96

01:29:25.000 That is your whole business.

01:29:27.000 Well, that's profit sharing again and commonwealth and all that same stuff. 1.00

01:29:30.000 And any club owner that would do that is a piece of shit. 1.00

01:29:32.000 Any club owner that wouldn't want to compensate the comedians that are performing and actually think that you're going to get them to work for free while you have your place packed every fucking night, that's disgusting. 1.00

01:29:43.000 They're going to get a lot out of it. 0.98

01:29:44.000 They're going to get famous.

01:29:45.000 Well, that's like all artists in Hollywood, though.

01:29:47.000 Anybody who can put two words together, they'd rather not pay you a dime.

01:29:54.000 Writers, musicians, songwriters, they want to own everything now.

01:29:59.000 They've got their copyright laws.

01:30:01.000 They want to own everything.

01:30:02.000 Some people do, yeah.

01:30:03.000 One of the beautiful things about small clubs that I've always loved, if I do Zany's in Nashville or something like that, the club owners, if you go to these places, they actually like the art form.

01:30:15.000 It's a good exchange.

01:30:16.000 They enjoy it.

01:30:17.000 They enjoy the idea of having performers on their stage and that people have a good time and that their business flourishes.

01:30:25.000 They're happy to pay you. 0.99

01:30:27.000 Well, you know, there's a lot of great comics out there getting old now and, you know, they don't have any money and there's a, you know, a bunch of shit like that. 0.95

01:30:34.000 They gave their whole lives for comedy and they didn't get rich like I did, you know, and a few of us. 0.62

01:30:40.000 But they're just as, you know, they're great writers, great comics.

01:30:44.000 But, you know, you get broke down by that system like all artists and creative people do.

01:30:49.000 Well, I think with a lot of these guys, too, though, they're also very woe is me.

01:30:53.000 There's quite a few of those guys that never figured out social media, they never figured out how to promote themselves, they stopped writing new material, and then they feel like, I've been doing stand-up for 30 years and I can't sell at a club.

01:31:02.000 Well, what did you do?

01:31:03.000 I mean, like, what did you do with your time?

01:31:05.000 Like, how much of your time did you actually invest in continuing your career?

01:31:09.000 How much of your time did you actually invest in writing?

01:31:11.000 And how much did you just think that it was just due to you?

01:31:13.000 Because you've been around for 30 years. 0.98

01:31:15.000 It's ridiculous. 0.79

01:31:16.000 I thought it was just due to me. 0.92

01:31:18.000 You sound like my representatives now.

01:31:20.000 Well, for you, you know, you, I've said it before the show, but I'll say it afterwards so other people could hear.

01:31:25.000 We were talking recently about ten of the most influential comedians of all time, and you were on our list.

01:31:30.000 Well, I appreciate that.

01:31:32.000 Thank you.

01:31:32.000 It's 100% true.

01:31:34.000 It's an honor to have you on the show, in fact.

01:31:35.000 I think that you came along and you were this new type of woman stand-up.

01:31:40.000 In a lot of ways even more powerful than Kinnison was as a male stand-up.

01:31:46.000 Yeah.

01:31:46.000 You came along and you had this whole new thing going on.

01:31:49.000 You were a woman who didn't give a fuck. 1.00

01:31:51.000 You don't give a fuck what anybody says. 1.00

01:31:53.000 You're going to fucking tell them. 1.00

01:31:55.000 And you're going to say, like, shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:31:57.000 This is what I feel. 1.00

01:31:59.000 This is my fucking husband. 1.00

01:32:00.000 And you were slaying with this material. 1.00

01:32:03.000 Because nobody had ever seen that before.

01:32:06.000 I remember, I think it was my mom who told me about you.

01:32:09.000 I'm pretty sure.

01:32:09.000 I'm pretty sure it was my mom.

01:32:11.000 Because my mom, she likes stand-up. 0.99

01:32:14.000 Is she in her 60s?

01:32:15.000 Yes.

01:32:15.000 And she likes stand-up.

01:32:17.000 And I think she was...

01:32:19.000 I'm almost positive it was her, but she's like, you've got to see this woman.

01:32:21.000 Oh my God, she made me laugh like no woman has ever made me laugh before.

01:32:25.000 But that statement, it was a different kind of a thing.

01:32:28.000 She said it that way.

01:32:29.000 She was just trying to say how much she enjoyed it, but that was a true statement.

01:32:34.000 She made you laugh in a way that you never laughed at a woman comic before. 0.99

01:32:38.000 You owned it.

01:32:39.000 Where a lot of these women who came before you, although they were very funny, they wanted people who liked them. 1.00

01:32:45.000 And you were like, fuck you. 1.00

01:32:48.000 Yeah, I was. 1.00

01:32:49.000 I learned it.

01:32:50.000 I mean, you know, I learned it on stage.

01:32:52.000 I'll tell you, I did learn a lot of it from my dad because my dad was just like that.

01:32:57.000 He was like one of the funniest ones ever.

01:33:00.000 Really?

01:33:01.000 Yeah, but he had to get a job, you know, because he had kids.

01:33:04.000 Wow. 0.99

01:33:04.000 But he did some funny funny shit. 0.99

01:33:06.000 Where did he do stand-up? 0.96

01:33:08.000 Nowhere.

01:33:09.000 Just in the house.

01:33:10.000 When people called and stuff.

01:33:13.000 Because we always had the Mormons. 0.99

01:33:15.000 We lived in Salt Lake and the Mormons always came to our house to teach us about You know, the Book of Mormon.

01:33:21.000 And my mom was a nice woman, so she always let them in.

01:33:25.000 And I guess she wanted somebody to talk to or whatever.

01:33:28.000 Plus, they were handsome as hell.

01:33:30.000 And my mom's like that, you know. 1.00

01:33:32.000 She's the pretty girl always.

01:33:34.000 So she's like, when she was 70, she's like, I can still get a man.

01:33:39.000 Whoa.

01:33:40.000 Any man.

01:33:41.000 Whoa.

01:33:43.000 That's why I'm so neurotic.

01:33:45.000 But anyway, so she'd invite him in, and so my dad, he didn't like him because he was an atheist.

01:33:51.000 So he used to go down in the basement and scream up.

01:33:54.000 Or the better thing he did was when they knock on the door, after they'd been there a couple times, he goes, Mrs. Barr in.

01:34:01.000 And he goes, Mrs. Barr.

01:34:03.000 Mrs. Barr is in jail for 28 days. 1.00

01:34:08.000 We have nothing to discuss.

01:34:10.000 LAUGHTER I mean, he'd do...

01:34:13.000 And us kids would just be peeing our pants.

01:34:16.000 It was so funny. 1.00

01:34:17.000 So he would just do that to fuck with people, to entertain. 1.00

01:34:19.000 He had, like, the heart of a stand-up, right? 1.00

01:34:21.000 Yeah.

01:34:22.000 Plus his lines were pretty good, too.

01:34:24.000 Yeah, he was funny.

01:34:25.000 My whole family was funny.

01:34:27.000 It was all slams.

01:34:28.000 Everybody was slamming everybody.

01:34:29.000 I got the first slam when I was four.

01:34:32.000 My Uncle Sherman was sitting there eating my grandma's soup, and he always called her a greenhorn and stuff because she was an immigrant, you know?

01:34:40.000 So he's like, you know, in America, they don't put an inch of chicken fat on top of their soup.

01:34:46.000 You know?

01:34:47.000 I was like four, and I was just like, he's talking about my grandma.

01:34:51.000 And I really want to film this, too, because I felt like Wonder Woman, and I knew I was going to deliver the line.

01:34:57.000 It came to me, and I was going to do it.

01:34:59.000 You know, that thing you get when you film a comic?

01:35:02.000 Yeah.

01:35:02.000 And I'm like, then how come you eat two bowls of it?

01:35:06.000 Boom.

01:35:07.000 And everyone laughed and he got really pissed.

01:35:10.000 And I was only four, but he got pissed.

01:35:12.000 So then I was like, oh boy.

01:35:14.000 I can own this room.

01:35:17.000 So you remember the first time you ever killed?

01:35:20.000 Yeah, I do.

01:35:21.000 I do.

01:35:22.000 I remember every second.

01:35:23.000 You just knocked out of the park with a line, and you had the feeling that you get when you go on stage and you have an idea.

01:35:29.000 Yeah, because he was fat, and no one could say he was fat. 0.96

01:35:32.000 They couldn't say, hey, you're a tub, or anything like that to him, because he was sensitive, but he was a bully. 0.96

01:35:38.000 Like, a lot of fat people are bullies, you know? 0.99

01:35:41.000 They're not all jolly. 0.99

01:35:42.000 Well, there's a lot of fat people that are uncomfortable, right? 0.84

01:35:45.000 Yeah, whatever, but they're mean, and he's one of them.

01:35:47.000 So I was like, you're eating too much.

01:35:50.000 Boom! 0.99

01:35:51.000 It was like double. 1.00

01:35:53.000 And I knew it was fucking double, too, because it was like I was penetrating the shield of bullshit, but we don't tell him he fucking is a big, fat pig. 1.00

01:36:03.000 That's where all the best comedy lies. 1.00

01:36:04.000 Oh, it's so fun. 1.00

01:36:05.000 A missile, a hellfire missile that penetrates the shield of bullshit. 1.00

01:36:09.000 But the bad thing is when you are like that, like me and my dad, giving it back, then you have kids and they give it to you and god damn it, it's awful. 1.00

01:36:18.000 My kid already gives it to me. 0.97

01:36:20.000 How old?

01:36:21.000 I have a five and a three. 1.00

01:36:22.000 The five year old is already like talking shit. 1.00

01:36:25.000 It's hilarious. 1.00

01:36:26.000 It's so your karma.

01:36:28.000 Yeah, it's totally.

01:36:29.000 I told her she had to go to bed.

01:36:30.000 She goes, why?

01:36:31.000 I don't have a job.

01:36:32.000 Ah!

01:36:33.000 Loved.

01:36:33.000 She just looked at me.

01:36:35.000 Because I always say, Daddy has to get up in the morning.

01:36:37.000 Daddy has a job.

01:36:38.000 I've got to go to sleep soon.

01:36:39.000 So when I tell her she's got to go to sleep, she's like, why?

01:36:41.000 I don't have a job.

01:36:42.000 Just looking at me, I was like, oh, snap.

01:36:44.000 This is before she was even going to preschool.

01:36:47.000 She was like four when she said that.

01:36:51.000 I know it's happening.

01:36:52.000 I know it's coming.

01:36:54.000 No parent escapes their karma.

01:36:57.000 No parent escapes it.

01:36:58.000 I enjoy it.

01:36:59.000 I want her to be strong.

01:37:01.000 I want her to have her own opinions.

01:37:05.000 Arguing about whether or not she should have to go to bed is the beginning of arguing whether or not she should have a terrible job. 0.96

01:37:11.000 Arguing whether she should have an existence that she doesn't enjoy. 0.99

01:37:15.000 Whether she should have been in a relationship that she thinks sucks. 0.98

01:37:17.000 That's right. 0.86

01:37:17.000 What did you say to her when she said that? 0.86

01:37:19.000 I said, you got a good point.

01:37:21.000 I said, yeah.

01:37:23.000 Did you make her go to bed?

01:37:25.000 No, I made her watch one more half hour of Max and Ruby and then go to bed. 0.82

01:37:29.000 That line deserves some rewards.

01:37:32.000 I didn't tell her that the line deserves a reward because I didn't want her to be encouraged to continue it.

01:37:36.000 But I just had to explain it to her.

01:37:38.000 I said, it's so important when you're young to get your sleep.

01:37:41.000 I go, because you're a growing organism.

01:37:44.000 I tried to explain.

01:37:45.000 I showed her some pictures when she was a baby.

01:37:47.000 I said, you see what you look like now?

01:37:49.000 You don't look like that anymore.

01:37:50.000 That's all from sleep.

01:37:52.000 That sleep turns you from a baby into this four-year-old girl who can talk to me.

01:37:56.000 She's like, really?

01:37:56.000 I go, yep.

01:37:57.000 I go, it's thinking and it's learning.

01:37:59.000 That's all important, too.

01:38:00.000 But sleep is big.

01:38:01.000 It's really important.

01:38:02.000 I go, but it's not going to hurt you if you watch one more show.

01:38:06.000 You're like a good dad.

01:38:07.000 It's so important that girls have a good dad that they can talk to.

01:38:11.000 Really, girls need that more than anything. 1.00

01:38:14.000 I think so, and it's important for a guy to have a good mom.

01:38:18.000 I thought of something funny my dad said.

01:38:21.000 We were Jews in Salt Lake, so I was always like, how come Santa doesn't come to our house?

01:38:27.000 I was about eight.

01:38:30.000 Maybe six.

01:38:32.000 How come Santa doesn't come over to our house? 0.95

01:38:34.000 Because Santa is an anti-Semite. 0.89

01:38:42.000 It was so funny. 0.94

01:38:43.000 Horrible thing for a kid to hear.

01:38:45.000 But I knew it was hilarious.

01:38:47.000 Right.

01:38:47.000 You already knew him.

01:38:49.000 It was dark.

01:38:49.000 Yeah.

01:38:49.000 You enjoyed it.

01:38:51.000 Yeah, I loved that dark.

01:38:51.000 So you were like raised to be a comic, essentially.

01:38:54.000 Yeah, he kind of did.

01:38:54.000 Primed.

01:38:55.000 He used to watch Ed Sullivan with me, you know, and he'd go, this guy is, he's a comic.

01:39:01.000 He says, you know, he goes, this guy's a comedian.

01:39:04.000 He says things funny.

01:39:06.000 This guy's a comic.

01:39:08.000 He says funny things.

01:39:09.000 He broke it all down for me.

01:39:12.000 He goes, this guy is actively resisting.

01:39:15.000 This guy is a resistor.

01:39:16.000 This guy is a, what do you call it, where you collude. 1.00

01:39:22.000 He was like a big fucking commie. 0.99

01:39:25.000 Your dad was a big commie? 1.00

01:39:27.000 Yeah.

01:39:29.000 Fight the man.

01:39:30.000 Well, you know, he grew up during the McCarthy era.

01:39:33.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:39:33.000 Which, I mean, you wanted to be a comic because you didn't want to be the fucking government. 0.99

01:39:37.000 You thought that was the opposite side. 0.98

01:39:39.000 When you've got these people that are getting arrested because they went to a meeting and talked to people about socialism.

01:39:43.000 So they're getting arrested and they're getting blacklisted from Hollywood. 0.94

01:39:46.000 They're getting their fucking jobs taken away from them for going to meetings and talking to people about ideas that they might not even agree with anymore. 0.98

01:39:53.000 Well, especially about unions or anything. 0.99

01:39:54.000 Yes, yes, yes, yes.

01:39:55.000 You know, it's like that blacklisting thing.

01:39:56.000 And the left joins in on it, if you'll notice.

01:39:59.000 Yeah.

01:39:59.000 The left joins in on, like, I was pretty shocked that they were coming after, you know, the times that they've come after me.

01:40:06.000 What have they come after you about that you didn't understand? 0.99

01:40:08.000 You know, a couple times I've said stupid things. 1.00

01:40:10.000 Like what? 0.99

01:40:11.000 Oh, I'm not getting into it.

01:40:14.000 You're not getting into it?

01:40:15.000 Why would I do that?

01:40:16.000 Just as an example, so if people don't know that are listening to this, they would like to know, like, what you mean by that.

01:40:22.000 Well, I got in a fight with the transgenders. 1.00

01:40:26.000 Ah, the transgenders. 1.00

01:40:27.000 What was it about? 0.87

01:40:28.000 Not all of them.

01:40:28.000 I've been in arguments with the transgenders.

01:40:30.000 Not all of them.

01:40:31.000 The majority of them are nice, wonderful people.

01:40:35.000 They really are.

01:40:36.000 And I know a lot of them. 1.00

01:40:37.000 But, you know, assholes are in every group. 0.99

01:40:39.000 What you were talking about, tribalism, here's another thing I want to say. 0.99

01:40:43.000 When they pervert tribalism, and here's what they do too, they make you defend everybody who's like you, but that's not good because you're keeping the predator right there.

01:40:54.000 Sure.

01:40:55.000 Because the predator is the one every group should be against.

01:40:58.000 It's time to rid every community, every type, every street of predators who like aid people, taking people's money, taking public money and putting it in private pockets.

01:41:10.000 Right?

01:41:11.000 Yes, I agree 100%.

01:41:12.000 Saying that all people of this nationality, those are my people, or all people of this gender, those are my people, or all people that are transgender are my people. 0.98

01:41:20.000 It's all equally ridiculous. 1.00

01:41:22.000 Right, everybody's got assholes in their group. 1.00

01:41:24.000 Just be anti-asshole. 1.00

01:41:27.000 I could not agree more, and that has always been my problem with the idea of feminism. 1.00

01:41:31.000 I'm 100% for equality, and I think that we should look down on men who are abusing women the same way we look down on women who are abusing men, the same way we look at men abusing men.

01:41:43.000 Right, absolutely.

01:42:00.000 Well, it could be that. 1.00

01:42:01.000 It's also the need to be, you know, you're not on my team, fuck you. 1.00

01:42:05.000 There's people that are on Team AT&T. Why are you going with Verizon? 0.99

01:42:09.000 Oh, you're using a Windows computer. 1.00

01:42:12.000 You pussy, you need to get a Mac. 1.00

01:42:13.000 You know, people are crazy. 1.00

01:42:14.000 They're crazy with that. 0.98

01:42:16.000 Well, they're getting paid to do that, though.

01:42:17.000 I don't think they do it on their own.

01:42:20.000 Oh, they absolutely do.

01:42:21.000 Well, some do, I guess.

01:42:22.000 I think almost all do. 0.99

01:42:23.000 There's fucking Chevy people that have a car. 0.99

01:42:26.000 They have that Calvin and Hobbes of Calvin pissing on a Ford logo because they don't like Ford because I like Chevy. 1.00

01:42:34.000 People are retarded. 1.00

01:42:35.000 They just go with these stupid teams. 1.00

01:42:37.000 I'm from fucking Milwaukee. 1.00

01:42:38.000 We don't give a fuck about people from Chicago. 0.99

01:42:41.000 That's a statement that a person in Milwaukee is likely to say if you bring up Chicago. 0.99

01:42:46.000 It's that patch mentality, but that's what's being taught.

01:42:49.000 It's being taught.

01:42:50.000 It's natural.

01:42:52.000 I don't even think it's being taught.

01:42:53.000 I'm not going to agree with you now.

01:42:55.000 Here's where we're going to talk.

01:42:56.000 That's why I don't have any hope.

01:42:58.000 You do have hope.

01:42:59.000 I do, but I have a different kind of hope because my hope is based on my hope in other human beings.

01:43:05.000 As is mine.

01:43:06.000 As is mine. 0.95

01:43:07.000 I don't have like any umbrella of fucking hope that the right thing is going to happen. 1.00

01:43:11.000 Because people are fucking stupid. 1.00

01:43:13.000 That's what they are. 1.00

01:43:14.000 They're stupid and they're followers. 1.00

01:43:15.000 And they are too busy to think. 1.00

01:43:17.000 But they're also beautiful and brilliant. 0.99

01:43:20.000 The reason why we're having this conversation at all is because someone figured out a way to put all this electronic shit into this tube that's only like six inches long and then it's attached to this wire that's attached to a fucking computer that blasts through to the internet. 0.97

01:43:31.000 No, you're changing the subject. 0.97

01:43:33.000 Wait, I gotta make...

01:43:33.000 No, this is a distribution vehicle for information that I would have never been able to figure out on my own.

01:43:39.000 Okay, wait a minute.

01:43:40.000 I want to say...

01:43:41.000 You're changing the subject.

01:43:42.000 No.

01:43:42.000 I want to say this.

01:43:43.000 I don't believe that people are fucked up. 0.99

01:43:46.000 I don't believe that they are slaves to their worst impulses. 0.98

01:43:51.000 I think some of them are, but I think the majority of people are not like that.

01:43:57.000 I think the majority of people are actually good, but they are the people kept away from the seats of power.

01:44:04.000 And if we could just get one of them somewhere, anywhere, Yemen, anywhere... 1.00

01:44:12.000 One of them will change everything.

01:44:16.000 Just one intelligent person. 0.99

01:44:19.000 I think one intelligent person can reach all intelligence, even in the greediest, lowest, backward bastard on earth. 1.00

01:44:28.000 I think you're 100% right. 0.90

01:44:29.000 I also think that that noise is going to drive people crazy.

01:44:31.000 What is that?

01:44:32.000 Is that you banging on this thing?

01:44:34.000 No, it's someone next door.

01:44:35.000 Is there someone next door?

01:44:36.000 What are they doing?

01:44:38.000 They're making something?

01:44:39.000 Oh, okay. 0.99

01:44:40.000 That's loud as fuck. 1.00

01:44:42.000 They probably are listening to the podcast and they hate me. 1.00

01:44:44.000 So they're fucking banging on my door because they know it's next door. 0.99

01:44:47.000 Maybe they have cake. 0.99

01:44:48.000 Maybe it's the CIA setting up a listening station right next door.

01:44:51.000 Do you know how many good people there are in our government?

01:44:54.000 People report this to me.

01:44:56.000 I just want to say this too.

01:44:58.000 People, they do report to me that there are good people everywhere.

01:45:03.000 I'm sure.

01:45:03.000 And there's good people in our government, and they're like, right now, they're proving that because they had solutions that made common sense to people, they're being promoted and getting closer to, you know,

01:45:19.000 logical seats of power.

01:45:21.000 So I think that's good, too.

01:45:22.000 Well, I think that this is what I was saying when I think that the internet and the transparency of information that we have today is going to sort of reinforce those ideas.

01:45:32.000 If you're going to represent people, you have to represent them in a way that benefits the people.

01:45:36.000 And that's possible.

01:45:37.000 It's possible to do.

01:45:39.000 So we're both on the same page.

01:45:41.000 You're just a little more extreme than me.

01:45:43.000 Me?

01:45:43.000 Yeah.

01:45:44.000 I'm just older.

01:45:44.000 With chemtrails and stuff and MKUltra and aliens.

01:45:50.000 That's where you draw the line.

01:45:52.000 I think there might be...

01:45:56.000 Robots?

01:45:57.000 I think the news might all be manufactured.

01:45:59.000 Oh, that's pretty sure.

01:46:01.000 In a studio.

01:46:02.000 And they probably have lookalikes playing the parts.

01:46:05.000 Really?

01:46:05.000 Oh, you take it way too far.

01:46:06.000 Fuck yeah, Wag the Dog. 1.00

01:46:07.000 Did you see Wag the Dog? 1.00

01:46:09.000 Yes, I did.

01:46:10.000 And that was a long time ago, by the way.

01:46:12.000 Yeah, of course it's Wag the Dog.

01:46:12.000 Before they had the kind of CGI that they have today.

01:46:15.000 Right.

01:46:16.000 Well, I think they definitely fake some stuff.

01:46:18.000 The CIA printed in the paper during the beginning of the Iraq invasion that they were going to release fake stories.

01:46:23.000 It was on CNN. They were going to release fake stories for the good of the troops or whatever the fuck it was. 0.99

01:46:29.000 That's it. 0.98

01:46:30.000 When you're admitting that you're faking the news...

01:46:34.000 That's what people who believe the Tower 7 thing was. 0.98

01:46:37.000 The Tower 7 confusion, or conspiracy rather, is that there was so much evidence inside that building that could have fucked them. 0.93

01:46:46.000 Bank stuff. 0.96

01:46:47.000 Enron.

01:46:48.000 Enron stuff.

01:46:49.000 Anderson.

01:46:49.000 The CIA had offices in that building.

01:46:52.000 The NSA had offices in that building. 1.00

01:46:54.000 That building was a crazy fucking building of information and shit. 1.00

01:46:57.000 You think that was the blackmail center maybe? 1.00

01:47:00.000 I don't know what the fuck it was, but I know that that building imploded like it was detonated. 0.97

01:47:05.000 Yeah, it looks that way, huh? 0.98

01:47:05.000 Those other two buildings to me look like buildings that got hit by a plane and horrible structural damage and everything fell. 0.98

01:47:11.000 Because they fell the way something would fall if it was collapsing and falling apart.

01:47:15.000 That Tower 7 thing fell like it was a controlled demolition.

01:47:19.000 Now, obviously, I'm not an engineer, nor am I an architect or a construction expert.

01:47:23.000 I am.

01:47:25.000 I don't know if a fire could make a building do that.

01:47:27.000 It might be able to because, look, things are weird.

01:47:31.000 It's weird to be able to detonate a building in the first place. 0.98

01:47:34.000 It's weird when you see, you know, sometimes shit happens. 0.88

01:47:37.000 Sometimes things don't go the way you would think they would go. 0.97

01:47:40.000 I've heard so many people's theories of what they think it is.

01:47:44.000 It's like people are swimming in theories.

01:47:46.000 Yeah, well, it's one of those things.

01:47:47.000 It's also so enticing to believe that Tower 7 was the place where they were holding all this information and they detonated it in front of everybody's eyes on television. 0.97

01:47:57.000 Like, holy shit, they got away with it. 0.78

01:47:59.000 Because if you were inclined to lean towards that, that would be one of the possibilities. 0.99

01:48:04.000 The reality is, I don't know.

01:48:06.000 Here's what I got out of it.

01:48:08.000 Okay, here we can watch it.

01:48:09.000 We can watch it fall.

01:48:10.000 Okay.

01:48:11.000 Look at that.

01:48:14.000 Watch it again.

01:48:15.000 Play that again.

01:48:18.000 Anybody that says it's not weird is hilarious.

01:48:22.000 Is that seven?

01:48:23.000 Whatever it is, it's free fall speed.

01:48:25.000 That's one of the things that they did prove.

01:48:27.000 And they tried to argue it, which is hilarious.

01:48:29.000 The NIST guys tried to argue that it wasn't free-fall speed.

01:48:32.000 They tried to say that it was like a second slower than free-fall speed.

01:48:36.000 You're talking about the collapse of a building. 0.99

01:48:38.000 Even if it was a second slower than free-fall speed, that's fucking crazy. 0.96

01:48:44.000 That thing just imploded into its own base. 0.96

01:48:47.000 Watch it one more time.

01:48:48.000 Look at that.

01:48:49.000 Look how it does that. 1.00

01:48:50.000 Anybody that doesn't think that's nuts, you're nuts. 0.99

01:48:53.000 That's the set. 0.99

01:48:54.000 Yeah.

01:48:56.000 You know how when they go like this on the side and they take it down?

01:49:01.000 Yeah, like the set on the screen, or a stage rather, for a play.

01:49:06.000 Except for the people who survived it on the streets, the horror of that.

01:49:11.000 That's really what it was about, I thought. 0.97

01:49:14.000 But also, the thing I knew it was the fucking end of the world when I seen it, because it was like... 0.72

01:49:18.000 I couldn't believe it because all these guys in suits, they were lined up on the sides of the roads and they were applauding for the firemen and the workers who do the actual work and they were like handing them water and I went, 0.98

01:49:34.000 this is the fucking end of the world. 0.88

01:49:36.000 Americans are actually like applauding the way things actually work. 1.00

01:49:41.000 The guys in the suits were actually applauding the first responders and stuff. 0.99

01:49:46.000 And I thought, this has got to be the end of the bullshit. 1.00

01:49:50.000 Because the bullshit meets the road. 0.99

01:49:56.000 Do you remember those days, like right after 9-11? 0.99

01:50:00.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:01.000 Those are crazy days.

01:50:02.000 There's a weird feeling in the air, wasn't it?

01:50:05.000 There was also a weird camaraderie between Americans.

01:50:08.000 Everywhere you go, everybody had American flags on their cars.

01:50:11.000 It was nuts.

01:50:12.000 But it was for the right stuff at first. 0.99

01:50:14.000 It was like they were bringing water and they were bringing supplies and it was like, we're going to fucking... 0.95

01:50:20.000 It was really amazing because it's like, we're going to win out of goodness. 0.79

01:50:27.000 And that's how it felt then, and it was like, you know, the people were like, they were so good, and they were so caring, and they were coming together against a common, you know, foe.

01:50:40.000 Yeah, and the love of the first responders, too, that was a big thing.

01:50:44.000 I was in New York in 2002, and I couldn't believe how nice people were being the cops and firemen, like yelling out to them, waving to them, honking their horns.

01:50:54.000 Saying, we love you.

01:50:55.000 Just, it was crazy.

01:50:57.000 It was like you could feel the tangible result of them realizing, like, wow.

01:51:00.000 Like, we're in a situation where we got attacked.

01:51:03.000 Like, and these are the people that saved people.

01:51:06.000 And, you know, there's this weird feeling of mortality now.

01:51:09.000 And a real respect.

01:51:10.000 But people in New York, when I was driving down the street, because I'm always watching people, you know.

01:51:14.000 And I was watching people walking down the street after that for quite some time.

01:51:18.000 Maybe six months.

01:51:19.000 A few times I checked it.

01:51:21.000 They were actually making eye contact with other people and smiling.

01:51:25.000 And then a few years later, after the bush, the whole thing, there they were back to just the looking straight down thing and avoiding eye contact.

01:51:34.000 But it was like, wow, that was a mind meld going on.

01:51:37.000 It was like a positive love mind meld thing.

01:51:42.000 Yeah, it only lasted for a little while, right?

01:51:43.000 How long did it last?

01:51:44.000 It lasted a few years.

01:51:46.000 It lasted until bush got up there and did that act.

01:51:49.000 You know, that sketch.

01:51:51.000 Yeah.

01:51:52.000 The one where he went on the boat and said...

01:51:54.000 Mission accomplished.

01:51:55.000 Yeah.

01:51:55.000 I think people also realized that the powers that be had capitalized on all this...

01:52:03.000 You know, this sort of patriotism and all this enthusiasm that America had for revenge.

01:52:10.000 Yeah, first thing, they cut the benefits of the first responders.

01:52:16.000 It's like, wow.

01:52:17.000 That's why I thought, well, did Wall Street do it, do you think?

01:52:21.000 What, 9-11?

01:52:22.000 I think that 9-11, more likely than not, was the result of a bunch of terrorists that attacked America.

01:52:28.000 And why did they do it?

01:52:30.000 Most likely because of what America's been doing overseas.

01:52:32.000 You know, we create enemies.

01:52:34.000 We do it from the beginning.

01:52:35.000 We've done it from the beginning of time.

01:52:37.000 Every nation that's been in power has always tried to steal the natural resources of other nations. 1.00

01:52:42.000 I've always tried to influence the governments of other nations, and there's a blowback from that shit. 0.97

01:52:47.000 You know, the people think that they, you know, that was the most embarrassing and enraging thing about what the Bush administration, the way they would flavor it. 0.99

01:52:56.000 They hate us for our freedom. 0.98

01:52:58.000 Like, he actually fucking said that on TV once. 0.99

01:53:00.000 They hate us for our freedom. 0.99

01:53:01.000 But who is he talking to?

01:53:02.000 He's talking about the terrorists.

01:53:03.000 No, he's talking to the people he represents, which are the investor classes.

01:53:08.000 He said it himself.

01:53:09.000 And people do hate their freedom because it's their freedom to be predators.

01:53:14.000 I think that's what he was talking to.

01:53:16.000 I think he was talking to the Duck Dynasty fans. 1.00

01:53:18.000 They were fucking stupid and they were rah-rah and they didn't want to put any thought to it. 1.00

01:53:21.000 They're like, he hates us for our freedom. 1.00

01:53:22.000 And they're like, yeah, let's go fuck into Iraq and kick some ass. 1.00

01:53:26.000 That's what he was doing. 1.00

01:53:27.000 I think he was just...

01:53:29.000 Patronizing knuckleheads. 0.99

01:53:31.000 And that this idea that somehow or another people wouldn't like that people are having a good time somewhere, so they're willing to kill themselves by flying fucking planes into buildings. 1.00

01:53:39.000 It's insulting. 0.99

01:53:40.000 Well, I mean, that's one way of looking at it.

01:53:44.000 You know, I've heard a lot of opinion.

01:53:46.000 Another being, Jesus, you know, now what has happened all over the world is now happening in our country.

01:53:53.000 You know?

01:53:54.000 Yeah.

01:53:55.000 You know, there was a lot of that where people were like, well, you know, this...

01:53:58.000 This can't happen here or anywhere else.

01:54:02.000 So, you know, they got to go win over there so they don't come here thing. 0.99

01:54:06.000 But it's that weird feeling that people have years later after the fact that not only have we not capitalized on the situation and used it as the potential to sort of rectify some of the problems that we have, but instead we ruined the way the rest of the world looks at America.

01:54:23.000 We destroyed all the goodwill All the praise and happiness that people had for America responding to this horrible tragedy.

01:54:30.000 All the love that people had sent to America from all across the world.

01:54:33.000 Within five, six years, America had become the great Satan again. 1.00

01:54:36.000 Half the fucking world. 1.00

01:54:38.000 They squandered it. 1.00

01:54:40.000 They capitalized on it.

01:54:42.000 That's the big thing.

01:54:42.000 They capitalized on it.

01:54:44.000 Well, those people, they get their money off the top, you know.

01:54:46.000 And then they sell the weapons to get their money.

01:54:49.000 They're not around when the wars start.

01:54:52.000 When we go back... 0.98

01:54:53.000 People have to get smart and hip to that shit and just go, you know what, we're not gonna... 0.99

01:54:56.000 You know what we're gonna do? 0.99

01:54:57.000 We're gonna do what we did after 9-1-1.

01:54:59.000 We're going to, like, do the right thing and the good thing for each other. 0.99

01:55:04.000 We're not gonna do what you fucking... 0.95

01:55:07.000 We're not going to be tools in your useless, obsolete wars where you make the stock markets go up because poverty increased amongst workers in the world. 0.99

01:55:19.000 That's not going to happen anymore.

01:55:22.000 I think that's slowly happening.

01:55:23.000 Yeah, I do too.

01:55:24.000 So you agree?

01:55:25.000 Everything's going to be okay?

01:55:26.000 I do agree.

01:55:27.000 But I also agree, and my daughter says, oh, mother, just because you're getting old enough to die doesn't mean that the entire world has to die with you. 1.00

01:55:35.000 That's what baby boomers think, because you guys are so fucking narcissistic. 0.99

01:55:39.000 Not all of you have ridden the world and blah, blah, blah. 1.00

01:55:41.000 But, you know, maybe it is.

01:55:43.000 Maybe it's because I'm getting old. 1.00

01:55:44.000 But, boy, I'd like to see a big fucking dent in the bullshit machine, this bullshit system. 1.00

01:55:50.000 I think we've already had a big dent. 1.00

01:55:52.000 We just haven't realized it yet. 1.00

01:55:53.000 What I was going to say is that when we look back in history and we look at the Iraq war and they find out that a guy who's the CEO of Halliburton somehow or another got to be the vice president of the United States who went into a war under dubious Pretenses that there's some weapons of mass destruction in some asshole's shitty fucking country in the middle of nowhere. 1.00

01:56:14.000 A million people die. 0.96

01:56:16.000 When they look at the profits that were distributed to Halliburton and all these different companies that profited from the rebuilding, it's going to be so fucking transparent when they stop and they step back and they look at it. 0.79

01:56:27.000 And then I think the other thing is going to be this Edward Snowden thing.

01:56:30.000 Well, did you know that they just made it possible for the survivors of the 911 victims to sue Saudi Arabia?

01:56:38.000 That just passed last week.

01:56:39.000 Did you know that?

01:56:40.000 No, I did not know that.

01:56:41.000 So there's a big admission for people to look at.

01:56:44.000 People need to read about that.

01:56:45.000 Well, the Saudis, the hostages, or excuse me, the hijackers were Saudis, most of them, right? 0.99

01:56:51.000 But aren't they the ones who did it?

01:56:53.000 I mean, they're dead.

01:56:54.000 Well, people say, other people say that it was just a regular move of empire, you know, the whole banking empire that runs through the whole thing.

01:57:06.000 That they set it up.

01:57:07.000 Yeah.

01:57:08.000 They did it.

01:57:09.000 Theater. 0.88

01:57:09.000 Doesn't that seem like that would be a really fucking difficult thing to arrange and that would be really hard to pull off? 0.88

01:57:15.000 What? 0.98

01:57:15.000 Pull off getting people to commit suicide by flying planes into buildings. 0.98

01:57:21.000 Oh, you mean getting operatives?

01:57:23.000 Getting people to do that.

01:57:24.000 Getting people to commit suicide by taking over a plane and flying them right into a building. 0.99

01:57:28.000 It's easy if you give them enough whores and drugs and money and then set their family up. 1.00

01:57:34.000 People will do it. 0.98

01:57:35.000 I think it's incredibly difficult to arrange that, plan that.

01:57:40.000 Well, what are you saying then?

01:57:42.000 You don't think Saudi Arabia had anything to do with it?

01:57:46.000 What are you saying?

01:57:46.000 Oh, no, no, they certainly did.

01:57:47.000 I think that the idea that the bankers organized it and set it up in order to rob people or that the government set it up in order to use it as a pretense to invade Iraq.

01:57:57.000 I think it's much more likely that they capitalized on a situation and looked for an opening that they had been looking for in the first place.

01:58:03.000 Seems like they were practicing it for a while.

01:58:05.000 Always have been.

01:58:06.000 Always have been, always will be.

01:58:08.000 Seems like they're all connected.

01:58:11.000 Who's all connected?

01:58:12.000 All the people who do that kind of stuff all around the world.

01:58:17.000 You know, they're arms merchants and, you know, they're operatives.

01:58:21.000 Well, there's certainly people that are connected like that all around the world.

01:58:24.000 There's certainly people that profit from war all around the world.

01:58:27.000 I think much more likely, though, this is the consequence of our actions overseas.

01:58:32.000 Well, people say that, but I'm not sure. 0.76

01:58:34.000 Other people say it was Silverstein getting a friggin' insurance payout. 0.79

01:58:39.000 That makes a lot more sense to me.

01:58:41.000 About Tower 7 as well, right?

01:58:42.000 That was the thing that he said, pull it.

01:58:44.000 Yeah.

01:58:44.000 He told them to pull it.

01:58:45.000 It's the whole thing.

01:58:49.000 You have to burn your building down to get the insurance money.

01:58:53.000 It wasn't getting rented.

01:58:55.000 Yeah, no, that's true.

01:58:57.000 I mean, look, that is something we've seen on smaller levels, you know?

01:59:00.000 Yeah.

01:59:01.000 We've seen it on lower levels.

01:59:03.000 Homeowners light their house on fire.

01:59:05.000 There was a guy recently who was indicted for murder because he opened up his gas line and then set a timer for a spark to go off, but he had no idea how much of an explosion it would create, and he blew up the neighbor's house, too, and killed a couple people. 0.99

01:59:21.000 I mean, it's just some crazy asshole that wanted some money and wanted to become a murderer. 0.98

01:59:26.000 If they don't lie, here's how they fix the world. 1.00

01:59:29.000 I don't know.

01:59:30.000 No, I do. 0.99

01:59:31.000 They have to get rid of insurance because it's the biggest—it's just a fucking scam, especially life insurance. 1.00

01:59:37.000 You're going to fucking die. 0.99

01:59:39.000 You don't need to have an insurance policy saying you're not, you know, because you are. 1.00

01:59:44.000 So already it's a fucking scam. 0.96

01:59:46.000 And everything in this country is like run by insurance, hack insurance salesmen, basically a bunch of guys that used to be in prison. 0.99

01:59:55.000 And then, you know, they couldn't get a real fucking job, so they started in insurance sales.

02:00:00.000 So a guy like Larry Silverstein, who would have, in the conspiracy model, paid to have those buildings destroyed, he would have no incentive to do that because he couldn't be able to get money from it. 0.94

02:00:10.000 So it would stop things like that from happening.

02:00:13.000 Well, I'm not saying that.

02:00:15.000 I'm saying people are saying that.

02:00:17.000 I'm saying these are things I've heard.

02:00:20.000 Of course. 1.00

02:00:20.000 Well, if you go on those fucking conspiracy websites... 1.00

02:00:23.000 All of them are equal. 0.99

02:00:23.000 They all make as much sense as the other thing. 0.99

02:00:26.000 No, I don't think they make as much sense.

02:00:29.000 I think that there's a lot of chaos in horrible tragedies, and a lot of people look for order in that chaos, and one of the things they look for is conspiracy.

02:00:37.000 I think it's a natural thing. 0.94

02:00:39.000 I don't think it's any conspiracy that a bunch of rich guys who own everything on Earth get together and fucking hang out. 0.98

02:00:46.000 Mm-hmm. 0.96

02:00:46.000 No, it's true. 0.96

02:00:47.000 That's not any conspiracy, and they do. 0.98

02:00:49.000 They all fucking know each other. 0.93

02:00:51.000 They have Carlisle groups, the whole thing. 0.99

02:00:53.000 They know what they're doing.

02:00:54.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

02:00:54.000 You know, and they make money from the shit they set up, like going to the roulette wheel. 1.00

02:01:01.000 I'm going to bet red on 22. Well, here's another thing that someone said that I've repeated. 0.99

02:01:07.000 I wish I could credit the original person, but it might actually have been us when we're stoned as fuck. 0.95

02:01:12.000 I don't even remember. 0.83

02:01:13.000 But the original quote was that September 11th, When people talk about conspiracy theories, that's one of the big ones.

02:01:20.000 And people always go, what do you think about September 11th?

02:01:23.000 I always ask people, do you believe that September 11th happened?

02:01:28.000 And they're like, what do you mean?

02:01:29.000 I'm like, do you believe that planes were hijacked and they flew them into buildings and they killed a bunch of people?

02:01:34.000 Do you believe that that happened?

02:01:35.000 And most people say yes.

02:01:37.000 And I say, well, then you believe in conspiracies because they conspired to do that.

02:01:42.000 It had to be a conspiracy.

02:01:43.000 The only way you get planes to fly into buildings.

02:01:46.000 Have you seen that footage where they show it's fake?

02:01:47.000 Where they show it's all faked?

02:01:49.000 Have you seen that stuff? 1.00

02:01:50.000 See, that's probably CIA shit right there. 0.98

02:01:52.000 That's probably to defuse the architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth and people along those lines that are asking for answers. 0.99

02:02:00.000 Because even if they're wrong, they're still stirring the pot so much that it makes it hot for anybody who's in public office.

02:02:07.000 That's right.

02:02:08.000 It makes it difficult.

02:02:09.000 What about the Kennedy assassination?

02:02:11.000 I mean, that's the other conspiracy that everybody talks about.

02:02:15.000 That's a fascinating one that people have been wanting more and more lately to pin on Lee Harvey Oswald as being the lone gunman.

02:02:21.000 And I think that's hilarious.

02:02:23.000 I thought people were moving away from that.

02:02:25.000 No, no, no, no.

02:02:26.000 There's a lot of people.

02:02:27.000 What was that guy that wrote that book? 0.99

02:02:29.000 Vincent Bugliosi, however you say his last name, wrote a book called Case Closed, which is fucking retarded. 0.98

02:02:35.000 It's not closed at all. 0.98

02:02:36.000 Yeah, it's not.

02:02:37.000 There's a lot of people that were witness to that that wound up murdered, wound up dying in very strange ways, more than 100 over 10 years. 0.92

02:02:47.000 And they said that the odds of those people all dying like that were some fucking astronomical number. 0.74

02:02:52.000 It's fascinating to follow it. 0.97

02:02:53.000 Yeah, it is.

02:02:54.000 All these years, I remember I was in about the fifth grade when they came in and they said, we're letting school out.

02:03:02.000 Early on account of our president has just been, is dead, has been shot.

02:03:07.000 That was freaky.

02:03:08.000 That's one of those you never forget where you were moments, right?

02:03:11.000 I was so mad because that night I was having my first slumber party.

02:03:15.000 And we were going to watch Nightmare Theater of the scary movies.

02:03:19.000 And there's only like three channels and it was all about the, you know, president.

02:03:24.000 So they preempted all the scary movies.

02:03:27.000 So I just canceled my party.

02:03:30.000 That sucks, because back then you'd have a VCR, didn't have anything.

02:03:36.000 You'd have to deal with it.

02:03:36.000 And it was the movie I wanted to see, too.

02:03:39.000 It was that one about the clay tube burrata nicto.

02:03:44.000 Oh, yeah, yeah. 0.99

02:03:45.000 What the fuck was that? 0.99

02:03:47.000 The guy with the spaceship and came from out of space? 0.99

02:03:51.000 Is that what it is?

02:03:52.000 Was that it?

02:03:53.000 Yeah.

02:03:54.000 It wasn't War of Worlds, was it?

02:03:55.000 War of Worlds?

02:03:56.000 It was War of Worlds, I think.

02:03:57.000 Remember that clay tube burrata nicked toe? 0.70

02:04:00.000 I wanted to say that when I was running for president so bad on, you know, stage.

02:04:06.000 How many War of Worlds have there been?

02:04:08.000 Is it the 2005 one, which is...

02:04:10.000 No, that was not...

02:04:11.000 This one really fooled people.

02:04:13.000 Yeah, it was a long time ago.

02:04:14.000 They were screaming, running in the streets, and they thought we really had been invaded.

02:04:17.000 They say they're going to do another one like that, a fake alien invasion movie, and project it onto the stuff that is in the chemtrails, and that people are going to see a false and artificial reality right before their eyes.

02:04:32.000 Jamie's got it.

02:04:32.000 The Day the Earth Stood Still.

02:04:34.000 That was it.

02:04:35.000 That was awesome.

02:04:36.000 I watched that the other day, actually.

02:04:37.000 Did you hear what I just said, though?

02:04:39.000 Yes, I did.

02:04:40.000 Because people are programmed in America that they can't hear that.

02:04:44.000 They can't hear it.

02:04:45.000 Do you think that they would actually do that?

02:04:48.000 If it was something like War of Worlds type thing again, remember when Orson Welles did that on the radio and freaked the population out?

02:04:55.000 You would get sued if you did something like that today, wouldn't you?

02:04:58.000 If you had like a fake news story and people started committing suicide because they thought the aliens were attacking?

02:05:02.000 Well, they say they're going to do it to get people to run to the FEMA camps.

02:05:06.000 That's what they say!

02:05:07.000 That's what they say!

02:05:08.000 They do!

02:05:09.000 Because that'll be the only place where there's water and food, so they'll go.

02:05:13.000 I have one piece of advice.

02:05:14.000 Whoever they are, don't listen to them anymore. 1.00

02:05:16.000 They're telling you some crazy shit. 1.00

02:05:18.000 It's all they. 1.00

02:05:19.000 That's what they say.

02:05:20.000 That's what they say.

02:05:22.000 Fake aliens to get to the FEMA camps. 0.83

02:05:24.000 Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

02:05:25.000 I'll tell you what doesn't make any sense. 0.95

02:05:27.000 You can't get a fucking straight answer anywhere on the internet. 1.00

02:05:30.000 It's all fucking bullshit on both sides. 1.00

02:05:33.000 Where's the real news? 1.00

02:05:35.000 Well, here's the problem with the whole FEMA camp thing.

02:05:37.000 What?

02:05:38.000 Here's the number one problem. 1.00

02:05:39.000 You've got to feed those fucking people. 1.00

02:05:40.000 You've got to take care of them. 1.00

02:05:41.000 You're either going to kill them, which costs money because you're going to have to get rid of the bodies and shoot them and all that shit, and then they're not going to contribute any money to the tax dollars anymore. 1.00

02:05:48.000 That's what I thought was crazy. 1.00

02:05:50.000 That's what I said.

02:05:51.000 You don't lock up your own tax base, and yet that's what they're doing.

02:05:54.000 They're locking everybody up for pot, all the young kids.

02:05:57.000 Stop and think about who they're really locking up, though.

02:05:58.000 Yeah, the young kids that'll work.

02:06:00.000 There's a little bit of that, but there's also they're profiting off of putting people in prison, a lot of them young black men.

02:06:06.000 And they're putting people that are a part of this disenfranchised system.

02:06:09.000 And Latino.

02:06:10.000 And working class.

02:06:11.000 And they're profiting off of them.

02:06:13.000 They're just using them to make profit. 0.95

02:06:14.000 But they're not taking the biggest, baddest tax donators in the world.

02:06:18.000 They're not doing that.

02:06:18.000 They're going after people that are in poverty.

02:06:20.000 That's why, because those people oftentimes aren't contributing to the system as far as tax money anyway.

02:06:25.000 They might buy like sales tax and things along those lines, but they're probably not making enough money declared to pay a significant amount of income tax.

02:06:31.000 Well, you mean there's nothing left to be robbed.

02:06:35.000 Yes. 0.99

02:06:35.000 Well, they're also, they've got a fucking terrible roll of the dice by life. 0.99

02:06:39.000 They start out in massive debt from the jump because they're born into some terrible society. 0.99

02:06:45.000 They're born into a horrible neighborhood, terrible parents, terrible crime-filled streets around there.

02:06:51.000 Well, it's a system that exploits the many for the benefit of the few.

02:06:55.000 It certainly is.

02:06:56.000 But that could easily be changed. 0.99

02:06:58.000 I mean, it could be changed by some people who have some fucking brains in their head that go, geez, I don't want to have to live on top of a mountain behind 18 sets of gates. 0.99

02:07:07.000 Right, right, right. 0.99

02:07:08.000 You know, right?

02:07:09.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:07:09.000 I don't want to have to helicopter over to fucking, what's it called? 0.98

02:07:15.000 Grand Canyon? 0.99

02:07:16.000 No, the grocery store.

02:07:18.000 What's it called?

02:07:19.000 Ralph's?

02:07:20.000 Yeah, something like that.

02:07:21.000 It's like, I gotta have bodyguards and helicopters over the roof of Ralph's.

02:07:25.000 Yeah, well...

02:07:26.000 I mean, you can't, you can't divorce, you can't, like, take that many steps back from humanity.

02:07:33.000 You can't. 1.00

02:07:34.000 They fucking all go nuts, too. 1.00

02:07:36.000 Do you see the shit they do? 1.00

02:07:37.000 Because they're so fucking crazy. 1.00

02:07:39.000 One thing that's consistent in this conversation is the word they. 1.00

02:07:44.000 And I think in a bad way and in a good way.

02:07:46.000 And I think the good way is that it's always a they if it's a corporation.

02:07:49.000 It's a bunch of people acting together doing terrible things.

02:07:52.000 And I think that where we're wrong as a culture...

02:07:56.000 It's not that we don't think of ourselves as individuals, but we don't think of giant groups as individuals.

02:08:03.000 It's being a bunch of different individuals together. 0.99

02:08:05.000 You become a part of this corporation, then you become a they, and only they can get away with shit. 1.00

02:08:11.000 When I say they, let me define. 0.99

02:08:11.000 No, you're right with they. 0.99

02:08:12.000 No, I mean stupid fuckers. 1.00

02:08:15.000 Let me be real definitive here. 1.00

02:08:18.000 Stupid backward lemming motherfucking idiots that are in control of everything. 1.00

02:08:25.000 But aren't they just a part of this fucked up system that we're talking about? 1.00

02:08:28.000 If you come along, say if you're going to work for some guy who's a fucking crazy control freak and you're working in his office and they have specific rules, the company rules that you have over the coffee machine and the way he wants you to dress, the way he wants you to talk. 0.98

02:08:43.000 If you're trying to advance inside that system, you behave the way that system itself. 0.93

02:08:46.000 But we've got to get rid of all corporations.

02:08:48.000 They're the enemy of everything.

02:08:50.000 Decent government and everything. 1.00

02:08:52.000 But, you know, they're bullshit too. 0.99

02:08:54.000 But they're also where we get laptops. 1.00

02:08:55.000 They're anti-democratic. 1.00

02:08:57.000 There's no democracy in a fucking corporation. 1.00

02:08:59.000 It's corporate feudalism. 1.00

02:09:01.000 That's what's foisted on all of us.

02:09:03.000 And you have to do what your boss says.

02:09:05.000 He might be on coke.

02:09:07.000 Of course he is on coke. 1.00

02:09:09.000 They're all fucking on coke. 1.00

02:09:10.000 He might be on some ungodly... 1.00

02:09:13.000 Could be on Adderall.

02:09:15.000 Well, some people are not meant for out.

02:09:18.000 I'll give you that.

02:09:19.000 But I mean, and it's at his whim that you live and die.

02:09:23.000 That ain't right.

02:09:23.000 That's what corporations do.

02:09:25.000 And these fucking, you know, servants that they put on the Supreme Court to make a corporation a human, I think we should take advantage of that and do just the opposite and get all the American people together not to... 0.99

02:09:39.000 To never vote, never cast another fucking vote, and incorporate. 1.00

02:09:43.000 And then we'll bill the fucking government for the money they fucking stole from us in the first goddamn place. 1.00

02:09:49.000 We'll get our money back. 1.00

02:09:52.000 Strong words from Roseanne Barr, ladies and gentlemen.

02:09:54.000 Strong words.

02:09:56.000 Or not.

02:09:57.000 You know, one of the things that I thought was fascinating that you were talking about, one of the reasons why you love Hawaii is because they still have a goddess.

02:10:05.000 Yeah.

02:10:06.000 They still have an active goddess.

02:10:07.000 I think it's a fascinating thing in our culture that somewhere along the line, being a woman or respecting the idea of a goddess is completely eliminated from the whole structure of the culture.

02:10:21.000 Right, exactly.

02:10:21.000 It's kind of gone.

02:10:22.000 Exactly.

02:10:22.000 Everywhere on earth.

02:10:23.000 There's women, there's mothers, there's wives, but this strong feminine power structure or power position of the goddess doesn't really exist. 1.00

02:10:33.000 The feminine divine. 0.99

02:10:34.000 All these fucked up cultures. 1.00

02:10:36.000 Well, that's what they've got to get rid of first because it makes too much sense to women. 1.00

02:10:41.000 Well, they've got to try to fuck women's minds. 1.00

02:10:43.000 That's how they spend 99% of their lives doing that, the idiots. 1.00

02:10:47.000 Right. 1.00

02:10:48.000 Because they've got to get women to continue to bear kids for them to send off to wars and molest. 1.00

02:10:57.000 Well, and thinking the things that, like the standard of feminine or the philosophy of feminine, just the natural instinct and inclination is to take care of things, nurturing things, be loving to things, 0.61

02:11:13.000 give birth to things.

02:11:14.000 Oh, that's a little bit.

02:11:15.000 That's not exactly.

02:11:16.000 Everybody says that.

02:11:17.000 Well, and the yang and the yin of things.

02:11:19.000 It's the correct things.

02:11:21.000 It's the correct things.

02:11:22.000 Like when you see your kids bringing... 1.00

02:11:24.000 You know, going to chew on an electric cord like they all do because they're a fucking idiot. 1.00

02:11:28.000 You say, put that down! 1.00

02:11:31.000 Dad say that too.

02:11:33.000 All parents say that.

02:11:34.000 But that's out of love that you're doing that.

02:11:37.000 So that's what feminine is. 1.00

02:11:39.000 And, well, you would also say that there's a yin and a yang, and that the masculine is more aggressive and more...

02:11:45.000 If you look at, like, a society that's spiraling out of control, it'll go one way or the other.

02:11:50.000 It'll go too far one way or too far the other way. 1.00

02:11:52.000 And the Amazons are fucking kidnapping men and cutting their dicks off. 1.00

02:11:56.000 They are? 1.00

02:11:57.000 Giant Amazon women. 1.00

02:11:58.000 Where's that?

02:11:58.000 I mean, a book.

02:11:59.000 I'm just making...

02:11:59.000 Oh, in the book.

02:12:00.000 That would be a society like, shit, man, the women have taken control. 1.00

02:12:04.000 That would be awful. 1.00

02:12:05.000 I mean, women like it. 1.00

02:12:07.000 Of course they do.

02:12:08.000 They don't want to cut it off. 0.96

02:12:09.000 I mean, you know, women like men who have erections. 1.00

02:12:13.000 That's the bottom of the fucking line. 1.00

02:12:15.000 Of course they do. 1.00

02:12:16.000 That's what you're seeking.

02:12:18.000 However, you know...

02:12:21.000 They're still intelligent systems, and it seems that women are the ones who actually think of them. 1.00

02:12:28.000 In what way?

02:12:29.000 Because they have to.

02:12:30.000 Like in what way?

02:12:31.000 What intelligence systems?

02:12:32.000 Well, like, you know, a lot of social change comes when women start doing it. 1.00

02:12:39.000 All social change.

02:12:41.000 Really?

02:12:41.000 Yeah, in every community.

02:12:44.000 When the mothers start implementing a smarter system, that changes things right away. 1.00

02:12:50.000 And there's all kinds of evidence out there that you can read about.

02:12:52.000 Like right now in Africa, a whole bunch of new systems, you know, and women are the ones who are like thinking them up. 1.00

02:12:59.000 Because like I said, a lot of these women, myself included in the old days, you had to fix a whole lot of shit with just using a rubber band and a paper clip. 1.00

02:13:10.000 You had to, like, organize a fucking shitload of people around you to do what needed to be done for the group. 0.97

02:13:16.000 It's like hive mind. 0.99

02:13:18.000 And we were trained for that.

02:13:20.000 So it's like, you know, if we're all going to survive in this family, this is what I need you to do.

02:13:25.000 We need to make our common goal visible and all work towards it, not against it.

02:13:31.000 And that's what the mother brings to a family. 1.00

02:13:35.000 And the father, too.

02:13:36.000 But the mother is the one who's there every day. 0.98

02:13:40.000 General.

02:13:40.000 I'm speaking in generalities.

02:13:42.000 But she's there and she implements that system of sharing and commonwealth. 0.99

02:13:47.000 Do you know who Dr. Chris Ryan is?

02:13:49.000 Have you ever heard of him?

02:13:49.000 No.

02:13:49.000 Heard of the book Sex at Dawn?

02:13:51.000 Uh-uh.

02:13:52.000 He's a good friend.

02:13:53.000 We've had him on the podcast several times, and he's a really, really brilliant guy.

02:13:57.000 And one of the things that he talked about was that in hunter-gatherer cultures, the relationship between the man and the woman was much, much, much more equal because the women did a huge amount of the work.

02:14:07.000 Of course.

02:14:08.000 A huge amount of the reason why everybody was surviving and taking care of their children and feeding themselves was because of the gathering part.

02:14:14.000 It wasn't so much the hunting.

02:14:15.000 The men would be out doing the hunting.

02:14:17.000 They would be successful occasionally, but it wasn't all the time.

02:14:21.000 So they relied on crops.

02:14:22.000 They relied on the things that they grew and the things that they picked.

02:14:25.000 And that because of that, the women had a prominent position of power in those cultures. 1.00

02:14:30.000 Because our thinking is...

02:14:35.000 A little more circular.

02:14:37.000 Not always, but in generalities.

02:14:40.000 A little more connected.

02:14:41.000 A little more, you know, where men seems to be A equals B. It seems, you know, this way. 0.73

02:14:49.000 What do you call that?

02:14:50.000 Hierarchical or something?

02:14:51.000 Yes.

02:14:51.000 And they're trained to do that.

02:14:53.000 I don't doubt that it could be switched at any point if you're training people.

02:14:57.000 But after you've been doing something for a couple thousand years, it kind of comes into your DNA and it gets like it's your default because you've been well-bred or programmed for that, you know.

02:15:07.000 But I don't think that is who we are.

02:15:10.000 I think we're much smarter than what we're allowed to be. 0.99

02:15:13.000 And I think that, you know, if we had ultimate freedom and small groups of communities of self-rule, where it was the goal of each community to be sustainable and have justice and trade with your neighbor, I think we'd be a lot better because that is who we are before we all got fucked up with this shit. 0.99

02:15:33.000 I think you're right. 0.99

02:15:34.000 And I think that one of the things that these things represent when you start talking about like an ancient culture that, you know, favored women more or a culture over here that favors men more or, you know, you get weirdness like Papua New Guinea, where they sexually molest young boys from the time they're young, they take them away from their parents and they They make them ingest men's semen. 0.79

02:15:53.000 They call them semen warriors. 0.55

02:15:54.000 It's crazy.

02:15:55.000 But what is that?

02:15:56.000 Well, that represents this crazy range that we have of behavior patterns that people tend to follow.

02:16:02.000 And I think that discussion and communication and things like these conversations are what lead people to start analyzing the behavior structure and the conversation makes people look at the way things are and compare them to Whether it's past civilizations or civilizations like Iceland or whatever it is.

02:16:19.000 And they start thinking about reorganizing and re-engineering the system.

02:16:24.000 Because the system is just that.

02:16:25.000 It's something that people create.

02:16:27.000 And it might be good and it might be bad.

02:16:29.000 But people have accepted because they've been brainwashed into it.

02:16:33.000 They've been brainwashed into thinking that it's our master, but it's our tool.

02:16:37.000 And it is government that makes that happen.

02:16:42.000 Just, efficient, you know, efficient government.

02:16:47.000 It's like we've never really had that here.

02:16:50.000 You're right.

02:16:50.000 And it's so corrupt now at this point that I agree with what you said earlier before that it might not be fixable.

02:16:56.000 Well, I think it is.

02:16:58.000 And I have hope in my fellow humans, not in any fairytale way.

02:17:06.000 You know, there's a movement now and it's starting in Italy and it's going to go everywhere.

02:17:12.000 It's called the Five Star Movement and it has, you know, new systems of law, the International Tribunal of Common Law.

02:17:22.000 And I'm saying it wrong, but it's like commonwealth, common law.

02:17:27.000 And it's like taking the idea of sovereignty on behalf of the regular people of this planet, the citizens of this planet, and judging the people who have caused and imposed misery for no reason but profit.

02:17:46.000 And, you know, the people, they do have that power, and it is coming, and it is because of the internet, and it is because of shows like this, because we can talk this way.

02:17:54.000 You know, I have faith in my, in your generation, younger people.

02:17:59.000 My kids are your age a little bit younger, probably just your age.

02:18:03.000 But, you know, y'all are getting smarter, and you will.

02:18:09.000 You know, you're going to solve a lot of stuff because you're smart and you have the technology and the tools at your disposal to do so.

02:18:17.000 I think it's really the people far younger than me that are the hope.

02:18:19.000 I think it's the people that are listening to people like us having these conversations.

02:18:22.000 These are the first exposures they've had to these ideas and they'll shape them and change them while they're still young. 0.97

02:18:28.000 I think the rigid people that get into their 30s with mortgages and 40s and what have you, Those are the really hard ones to fucking change. 0.98

02:18:36.000 But you get a hold of some 18-year-old kid who's just out of high school and knows his parents are retarded. 0.98

02:18:39.000 And he goes to college and he listens to a podcast where Roseanne breaks down what's wrong.

02:18:44.000 That plants a seed in his head or her head.

02:18:47.000 And then from there, they go on and they improve the structure from where they can access it at the beginning.

02:18:55.000 At any point.

02:18:56.000 It can be, you know, even one small change could change the whole thing.

02:19:00.000 Not being saddled down with, you know, mortgages and kids and all this different stuff that makes it really, really hard to change, but be free from the jump and then engineer your life and in turn affect the lives of all the people around you.

02:19:13.000 Well, I think that's true, but here's what I think is really scary, awesome, cool.

02:19:17.000 It's far younger than even them.

02:19:20.000 I don't know if you've looked into it.

02:19:23.000 There's a lot of hope for the way autistic people think because they are very solution-driven. 1.00

02:19:31.000 I'm on that spectrum, you know?

02:19:33.000 But they're able to, like, conceive of the idea of actual solutions to actual problems instead of how am I going to make money off this problem, which is, like, my generation and disappearing.

02:19:44.000 But kids as young as nine years old are implementing incredible systems on the Internet that actually, like, you know...

02:19:55.000 What do you call it?

02:19:56.000 For battering of fuel, batteries, you know, and fuel, and all kinds of new things.

02:20:04.000 These guys, these people are unbelievable.

02:20:06.000 These young, they're really young, and especially the ones who have intense focus.

02:20:12.000 Their focus is so intense that they can only do one thing.

02:20:15.000 But when applied, I mean, these are like some of the greatest thinkers as per solutions that have ever existed.

02:20:22.000 And now this is like the time of magic that I really like because I want to tell you the story.

02:20:27.000 But you finish.

02:20:29.000 No, no, no.

02:20:29.000 Please do.

02:20:30.000 Oh, this was like a thing that really fucked my mind. 0.55

02:20:32.000 I was at this party and there was all these people, you know, from all over the place. 0.94

02:20:40.000 There was this guy there and he had done all the satellite work for Ted Turner at the time, you know, when they started cable, news and everything.

02:20:47.000 And he was telling me what his opinion of the impact of technology and freedom of information for people to be able to...

02:20:56.000 And here's what he said, because I think of it every day.

02:20:59.000 He said, for the first time in history, human history, information reaches the people without any state, without any church stopping it.

02:21:09.000 He said, this is going to give birth to something that people who look at the Renaissance as like a great time.

02:21:18.000 It's going to be a million times of it.

02:21:21.000 He said, this is going to be the time of great freedom.

02:21:23.000 And he said, and the greatest thing about it is that the ills of the world will begin to disappear because people will be smart enough and won't want to walk over dead bodies anymore because they'll realize that what they do is who they are.

02:21:38.000 And he went into this whole thing, and I think of it every day, and I look for evidence that it's true, and I find it everywhere all over the Internet.

02:21:48.000 Smart people, they know the right thing to do.

02:21:51.000 They know that this is the time where, you know, us just deciding that we're going to do the right thing for the right reason at the right time, it's never been done.

02:21:59.000 And now it's possible, and this is the first time, that it's really been possible for people to, like, really get together and...

02:22:09.000 Demand and bring change and a whole new world.

02:22:16.000 And we can do it all with everything that already exists.

02:22:19.000 We don't have to have any wars and we don't have to reinvent the wheel either.

02:22:22.000 It all exists.

02:22:23.000 What we just need is the right intelligence and philosophy at the top driving it.

02:22:28.000 And that exists too.

02:22:30.000 You are so much more positive than you were two hours ago.

02:22:34.000 Well, here's why I'm positive, because as positive as you are, you know about Zen and stuff.

02:22:39.000 For as much, you've got to stay in balance.

02:22:42.000 The only reason that you can be that positive is because you're aware of how negative it is.

02:22:47.000 You need both.

02:22:48.000 You've got to have both. 1.00

02:22:49.000 You've got to have both, because you have to see how fucking stupid shit is. 1.00

02:22:54.000 I often think that that's one of the things that motivates good things, is seeing evil in the world. 1.00

02:22:59.000 It's almost like it has to exist in order to motivate good.

02:23:02.000 Because we're so far from perfect.

02:23:05.000 We're so far from finished.

02:23:07.000 If we used to be monkeys and now we're this, we're not done.

02:23:11.000 We're not stopping right here.

02:23:12.000 Whatever we're going to be a million years from now is going to be very difficult.

02:23:17.000 It's going to be very difficult to compare to what we are today.

02:23:20.000 We're going to change.

02:23:21.000 We're going to evolve.

02:23:22.000 We have, to this point, we're going to continue to do so.

02:23:25.000 Whether we evolve, or they don't like the word evolve.

02:23:27.000 They like to use the word only evolve with genetics.

02:23:30.000 Advance.

02:23:31.000 Advance culturally, advance biologically, advance in our understanding of each other, and advance even further in our ability to spread information.

02:23:40.000 We're not done.

02:23:41.000 So the evil almost motivates that work.

02:23:44.000 It almost motivates that positive work to get things done.

02:23:48.000 Yeah, because the evil thing, after it's done killing everything good, like the cancer cell, and this is genetics, it doesn't stop killing until the host is dead.

02:24:00.000 And then it becomes the host and it eats itself.

02:24:05.000 It eats its own tail.

02:24:07.000 Well, and even on a different way of looking at it, what we were talking about earlier about New York, about people experiencing that horrible evil of this attack and thousands of people dead, and then millions of people being friendly to each other.

02:24:19.000 This burst in the other direction.

02:24:21.000 To me, that was like, this is the Messiah moment.

02:24:25.000 First of all, that Wall Street appreciated the work that people who do the actual work that makes things go. 0.98

02:24:32.000 Like when they go to the wall and flip that switch, the people that make the electricity come, you know, the people that raise their kids and put the food on their tables and grow it, those people that do the actual work, they were being very appreciative and I thought this is a mind-blowing fucking revolutionary moment in the United States history where bullshit is not walking and bullshit is not talking but reality and like reality is being honored and And people were so fucking happy, 0.98

02:25:01.000 man. 0.98

02:25:02.000 They were all smiling at each other.

02:25:03.000 They were tripping over themselves to give somebody a hand.

02:25:06.000 It was intense.

02:25:08.000 And I never will forget it, neither.

02:25:11.000 I won't forget it either.

02:25:12.000 I remember that feeling.

02:25:13.000 It was a very, very, very strange time.

02:25:15.000 And it didn't last.

02:25:16.000 But it let me know that that time is possible, that things like that can take place where people do wake up and kind of realize.

02:25:22.000 And I think one of the big things was that it happened here.

02:25:25.000 We've been so lucky.

02:25:27.000 When you consider how much war the United States has been involved in and how little of it has been on United States soil outside of Pearl Harbor, which is barely on United States soil.

02:25:36.000 It's like it's in the middle of the ocean.

02:25:38.000 It's Hawaii.

02:25:38.000 Hawaii, I think it should be its own nation.

02:25:40.000 I just do.

02:25:41.000 I think it is a totally unique thing.

02:25:43.000 I think it should have its own rules, its own government. 0.99

02:25:48.000 I think they need the United States money for certain things because of that, but fuck. 0.98

02:25:52.000 I do think that it's moved to where it's like the leader of the United States because it's the only place where they've outlawed GMOs. 0.98

02:25:59.000 And China just said, we're not going to buy any GMO. So there you go.

02:26:04.000 There's a whole market there that Hawaii is, you know, very set up to be able to fulfill.

02:26:11.000 It's a paradise nation.

02:26:12.000 It's a paradise nation in the middle of the ocean.

02:26:14.000 The idea that it's a part of the United States is crazy.

02:26:16.000 But they've been attacked.

02:26:17.000 The Pearl Harbor thing was the only time. 0.87

02:26:19.000 So we didn't have a point of reference. 0.98

02:26:21.000 So we're involved in all the shit that's going on all over the globe. 0.99

02:26:23.000 We are involved in Iraq. 0.99

02:26:26.000 We are involved in Afghanistan.

02:26:27.000 But you and I and everybody that's here in America, we don't feel that.

02:26:31.000 Unless you have friends or loved ones that are over there, you don't feel it.

02:26:34.000 I don't know.

02:26:35.000 I think people have sent their children over there.

02:26:37.000 Sure, those people feel it.

02:26:38.000 I mean, there's a bunch of people who felt it, and what's really sickening to me is that those people who sent their kids over there to fight for an idea that they agreed with and that everybody agrees with, that's what they were sold and that's what they did,

02:26:56.000 and then they come home to find that their parents, that class of people who've lost their homes, I mean, when people put that one together, I always hope, you know, of course I want the American people,

02:27:11.000 you know, deserve health care.

02:27:14.000 And if they had given us health care, they wouldn't have had any war in Iraq.

02:27:17.000 I want somebody to put that together too. 0.93

02:27:20.000 That was all bankster bullshit to avoid paying for, you know, Medicare for all, because they needed to get away from what they call a socialist model. 0.94

02:27:30.000 So they started breaking it down, and it was all around healthcare. 0.97

02:27:33.000 And it would have been a whole fuck of a lot cheaper to just give people healthcare, but it paid off those private contractors who go over to other countries.

02:27:44.000 And not only do they blow everything up, But then they rebuild it. 0.90

02:27:48.000 Then they blow it up again, and then they rebuild it. 0.99

02:27:51.000 They're getting paid four times of doing that because it's just a fucking scam. 0.97

02:27:55.000 When you say it's about health care, meaning that they shifted where the money would go, that it would have to go to war so there wouldn't be money for health care? 0.97

02:28:03.000 Was that the idea behind it?

02:28:03.000 Yeah, because they didn't want any socialist solution.

02:28:06.000 I just say socialist solution.

02:28:10.000 They've got people thinking that socialism means you're behind barbed wire with a gun to your head.

02:28:16.000 Or that you're weak and lazy and you don't want to do any work. 0.99

02:28:19.000 But that's how you fucking create a middle class. 1.00

02:28:21.000 You take the shit from the top and move it to the middle. 1.00

02:28:24.000 So they just bullshitted everybody. 0.99

02:28:26.000 And they use the way they always use. 0.99

02:28:29.000 They use a lot of racism and they use absolute classism to divide people against each other and do their fundraising shit. 0.97

02:28:37.000 And all the laws that they changed since Reagan were deregulation laws. 0.98

02:28:41.000 And it was so that they deregulated the insurance company so like bosses can take peasant insurance out on their employees so if they die they get a kickback. 0.50

02:28:51.000 Judges get a kickback.

02:28:53.000 You know, they took public money and put it in private pockets and they did it all through their lobbyists who sit in Congress and have nothing to do with serving the needs of the people who sent them there. 0.99

02:29:03.000 Now that is some bullshit. 0.99

02:29:05.000 That's fucking hilarious what it is. 1.00

02:29:07.000 Sometimes like you can't write comedy like that. 0.97

02:29:10.000 Well, I don't think it's hilarious.

02:29:12.000 I think it's disgusting. 0.97

02:29:13.000 But I agree with you that it's hilarious how fucking transparent it is. 0.98

02:29:15.000 And I think that you breaking it down like that is going to let people sort of look at it from that point of view. 0.90

02:29:20.000 But instead they got everybody flag, Bible, flag, Bible, you know, Bible flag.

02:29:27.000 Kalatu Niktu.

02:29:28.000 Yeah.

02:29:29.000 What is it?

02:29:30.000 You made me forget it.

02:29:32.000 Play to Borado Nikko.

02:29:33.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:29:34.000 It's like just the fucking catchphrases of bullshit. 1.00

02:29:36.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:29:37.000 Slogans. 1.00

02:29:38.000 It doesn't mean shit. 1.00

02:29:39.000 You're not going to get shit for it. 0.99

02:29:40.000 Right. 0.99

02:29:40.000 Your kid ain't going to get nowhere. 0.99

02:29:42.000 He's not getting into any school.

02:29:44.000 Mm-hmm.

02:29:44.000 But I have them in my family.

02:29:46.000 It's like, well, we need to be able...

02:29:47.000 This was like it in Hawaii, too, where this old lady gets up there. 1.00

02:29:51.000 It made me so fucking mad. 0.95

02:29:52.000 She goes, I'm 82 years old, and I'm a... 0.88

02:29:57.000 I'm a GMO farmer, and I'm 82, and if I didn't have my GMO crops, I wouldn't be able to send my children to college, and they get up there, their testimony.

02:30:10.000 I want to go to college!

02:30:13.000 But I go up there and go, I don't care how old you are, you don't have the right to give my grandkids asthma.

02:30:22.000 Hello?

02:30:24.000 But they don't connect anything because they're fucking on dope, for one thing. 1.00

02:30:29.000 They're depressed as fuck. 1.00

02:30:32.000 America takes two-thirds of the world's antidepressants, and then they got antidepressant booster on top of it if it doesn't make you... 1.00

02:30:40.000 Forget reality quick enough. 1.00

02:30:42.000 And you know, they're just drowning in bullshit. 1.00

02:30:45.000 But they want bullshit more than they want anything else. 1.00

02:30:50.000 It's like a fucking incredible addiction. 1.00

02:30:53.000 Give us our bullshit. 1.00

02:30:55.000 Give us our fucking bullshit. 1.00

02:30:57.000 But it's all fucking bullshit. 1.00

02:30:59.000 It's all fucking bullshit. 1.00

02:31:01.000 Is that because the truth is scary? 1.00

02:31:04.000 Because it's simple and they can't stand simple.

02:31:06.000 What do you mean it's simple? 1.00

02:31:07.000 Because they don't feel smart unless it's all convoluted labyrinths of bullshit. 1.00

02:31:11.000 The simple truth is fucking overwhelming to them because they're fucking liars. 1.00

02:31:16.000 So they're like, huh? 1.00

02:31:17.000 How am I going to stand here and have something true come out of my mouth?

02:31:21.000 How am I going to do that?

02:31:22.000 I won't be getting paid for that. 1.00

02:31:24.000 But I mean the people themselves that are addicted to the bullshit. 1.00

02:31:26.000 Like, what's feeding their addiction? 1.00

02:31:29.000 It's hope.

02:31:29.000 And that's why I say I don't use it.

02:31:31.000 They have convoluted hope and tell people, oh, there's hope that you're going to make it.

02:31:36.000 There's hope you're going to climb out of that hole.

02:31:38.000 There's hope there's a payoff.

02:31:39.000 There's hope you're going to win in the casino. 0.99

02:31:41.000 There isn't any fucking hope. 1.00

02:31:43.000 All there is is just, you know, uniting with other people and helping each other to get rid of fucking criminals that are robbing us. 0.99

02:31:50.000 Well, that's certainly the best hope. 0.99

02:31:52.000 Right?

02:31:52.000 That's certainly the best hope.

02:31:53.000 So I hope that people will fucking wake the fuck up. 0.99

02:31:56.000 That's what I hope. 0.99

02:31:57.000 I think they are.

02:31:58.000 I think they are.

02:32:00.000 I think that'll become an internet meme, what you just said.

02:32:03.000 Someone will take that and turn it into a clip. 0.64

02:32:04.000 It'll be a video. 0.99

02:32:05.000 And people will say, Roseanne Barr breaks shit down. 0.99

02:32:08.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:32:08.000 That's what I was going to say. 0.99

02:32:09.000 I like doing it for people because I can. 0.98

02:32:13.000 And I like just going, hey, I'll read all the shit for you and I'll tell you what it means too. 0.96

02:32:18.000 Because I feel like, hey, that's a service I can provide. 0.99

02:32:22.000 Maybe I'm full of shit on some topics. 0.97

02:32:24.000 Look it up for yourself and then come back and tell me if I am or not. 0.99

02:32:27.000 I'll listen. 0.99

02:32:28.000 But I mean somebody's got to put this complete system of obsolete bullshit into They've got to start laughing at discord and fucking replace it with something that fucking makes sense. 0.99

02:32:39.000 I agree. 0.99

02:32:39.000 I just don't know how it's going to happen. 0.99

02:32:41.000 I wonder what's going to be the trigger.

02:32:44.000 I hope it's not something catastrophic, some sort of big event that has to take place in order for them to rebuild the whole thing and try to do it in some sort of ethical and moral way.

02:32:53.000 But I fear it might be.

02:32:54.000 All they have to do is write down the debt like FDR did.

02:32:58.000 Move the zero.

02:32:58.000 It's easy.

02:33:00.000 It's a pen on paper.

02:33:01.000 That's all they have to do. 0.99

02:33:03.000 If they want, you know, things to get better in a fucking hurry. 0.99

02:33:06.000 What do you mean? 0.98

02:33:07.000 They can write down the debt of the American people.

02:33:10.000 They can have a debt jubilee.

02:33:11.000 They can forgive the debt, student loan debt.

02:33:13.000 They can do that all if they, you know, want to.

02:33:17.000 It's totally possible.

02:33:19.000 Obama could, like, say, you know what? 0.92

02:33:20.000 I'm kicking the Federal Reserve the fuck out of here.

02:33:23.000 As a matter of fact, I'm going to nationalize it.

02:33:24.000 And I'm going to nationalize Monsanto, too, while I'm at it because I have that kind of power under the Patriot Act. 0.98

02:33:30.000 They would kill him in a heartbeat.

02:33:31.000 So you got to do what you got to do. 0.80

02:33:34.000 Well, isn't that what happened to Kennedy?

02:33:35.000 I think so.

02:33:36.000 But you got to end Lincoln and you got to do what you got to do. 0.82

02:33:39.000 And those guys are frigging, you know, they did what they had to do. 0.98

02:33:42.000 And they died. 0.99

02:33:42.000 If you're going to get that fucking close, you know, it's not like you're going to top that. 0.99

02:33:47.000 It's not like you're going to be, you know, after, you know... 0.95

02:33:52.000 Nationalizing the Federal Reserve and Monsanto.

02:33:55.000 You're never going to top that.

02:33:57.000 Did you think that? 0.99

02:33:58.000 That's like getting a second fucking sitcom number one thing. 0.99

02:34:01.000 You're only going to get that once. 0.98

02:34:02.000 He's there with the chance.

02:34:03.000 He could do it.

02:34:04.000 He could do something.

02:34:05.000 Did you think that it was going to be different when he got into office?

02:34:07.000 No, I didn't like him.

02:34:09.000 I knew who he was.

02:34:11.000 I ran against him.

02:34:12.000 I came in fifth.

02:34:13.000 I spent zero dollars.

02:34:15.000 I came in fifth.

02:34:17.000 I raised no money and spent no money.

02:34:19.000 I came in fifth.

02:34:21.000 Wow.

02:34:22.000 But yeah, I ran against him because I knew he was a lobbyist like they all are.

02:34:26.000 There's no real leaders.

02:34:28.000 I mean, I think he's a smart lobbyist and I don't think he has any chance but to do what he does because he's in that system, that system of banksters.

02:34:36.000 Did you run against him in 2008?

02:34:39.000 Is that what it was?

02:34:39.000 12. Well, when he was coming out in 2008, did you have any belief in him?

02:34:44.000 No, I never have any belief in any Republican nor Democrat. 1.00

02:34:48.000 I know they're just fucking lobbyists. 0.99

02:34:52.000 They're not real even politicians. 1.00

02:34:55.000 They're just liars. 1.00

02:34:57.000 They're basically just fucking liars. 1.00

02:34:58.000 Politicians make bridges between communities and people for money to come into that community. 1.00

02:35:05.000 These guys don't fucking do any of that. 0.96

02:35:07.000 They just take people's money and put it in their friend's pocket. 0.98

02:35:11.000 Everything they do.

02:35:13.000 They're not...

02:35:15.000 Nothing they do is in the public interest or for American citizens.

02:35:21.000 I agree.

02:35:22.000 I hope your optimism and people figuring it out is founded in...

02:35:28.000 Well, I pray that they will because I want to use that word.

02:35:30.000 Because as long as there's old, you know, crabby whatever I am, women like me, you know, that are able to come on anywhere and say... 1.00

02:35:42.000 I'm praying that people will wake up and rejoin the human race.

02:35:45.000 I think that's a pretty free society that you're living in.

02:35:50.000 It's about as free as you can get in today's climate, but they're working very hard to restrict those freedoms, and that's what's scary about the NSA. Holding things over people, digging into your email, being able to have things that they can pull on you like you were saying before, that they're all a bunch of fucking people that have done shady shit and they know that they have secrets out there and they want to have your secrets as well. 0.94

02:36:11.000 And they want to hold them over your head and keep you from trying to change the system. 0.98

02:36:14.000 So when a person like you comes along that doesn't give a fuck, That's when the truth gets heard, when a person doesn't have anything to lose. 0.98

02:36:22.000 You know, you're a comic. 1.00

02:36:23.000 You can't get up here and then you can't fucking bullshit. 1.00

02:36:28.000 You can't live if you're just bullshitting people. 1.00

02:36:31.000 You want to hit them right fucking between the eyes. 0.99

02:36:33.000 And for me and my idol, Dick Gregory and other ones, it's like I'm not even going to fucking make it funny. 1.00

02:36:39.000 Mm-hmm. 0.80

02:36:40.000 I'm just going to say it to you because it's like, you have people, we have the power, right?

02:36:47.000 We have the power, we have all the power that it takes to ensure that a better system is implemented with the least amount of cruelty possible.

02:37:02.000 That's a great way to put it.

02:37:03.000 We do have it, right?

02:37:03.000 We do.

02:37:03.000 I believe we do.

02:37:04.000 Dick Gregory was the guy, for a lot of folks who don't know, who put the Zapruder film on television.

02:37:09.000 I didn't even know that.

02:37:10.000 Yeah.

02:37:10.000 He was the guy in 1970, actually.

02:37:12.000 It was long after 70-something.

02:37:15.000 It might have been 71. It was on the Geraldo Rivera show, actually.

02:37:21.000 They showed the Zapruder film live on television.

02:37:24.000 And back then, Geraldo was this anti-government guy who was this really controversial character.

02:37:30.000 Look, we can watch it right here.

02:37:31.000 What year was it?

02:37:32.000 Jamie, back that up real quick.

02:37:35.000 Back it up to the beginning.

02:37:38.000 Okay.

02:37:48.000 They're gonna show this is a Pruder film.

02:37:52.000 This is Geraldo Rivera back when he was super slick.

02:37:56.000 With a beautiful mustache and lovely hair, and it was called Goodnight America, and it was Geraldo's show.

02:38:02.000 He was the host of it.

02:38:02.000 But he did put on radical people.

02:38:04.000 Fuck yeah, he did. 1.00

02:38:04.000 He was a young man, and he was a wild fuck. 1.00

02:38:06.000 He was very different than he is now, this little Fox News puppet. 0.99

02:38:12.000 Dick Gregory got ahold of this video.

02:38:15.000 Time Magazine owned it from 1963 on.

02:38:18.000 Zapruder submitted it to them in 1963. They bought it, and then no one released it until 1970, what was it?

02:38:24.000 75. So think about that.

02:38:28.000 You're talking about eight years after the murder was the first time it gets on TV, and here it is.

02:38:32.000 This is the first time people see Kennedy's head explode on television and go back into the left.

02:38:38.000 They'd never seen that before.

02:38:40.000 The Warren Commissioner said that all of the shots were fired from behind by Lee Harvey Oswald, a lone assassin, firing at the President.

02:38:49.000 And as you can see, clearly, the head is thrown violently backwards.

02:38:54.000 That's Dick Gregory.

02:38:55.000 Dick Gregory put that on television.

02:38:57.000 So your hero was responsible for something you didn't even know about.

02:39:00.000 That was one of the big moments where people in the United States started going, what?

02:39:05.000 The Kennedy assassination was the one for me. 0.85

02:39:07.000 I was living in New York and my friend John... 0.98

02:39:11.000 He had this buddy who was over the house who had this book that he was fucking waving around talking all this crazy shit about this book. 0.96

02:39:16.000 It was called Best Evidence by this guy David Lifton. 0.98

02:39:19.000 David Lifton was an accountant that started going over the Warren Commission reports and he was one of the only guys that was anal enough to go through all fucking who knows how many hundreds and hundreds of pages I think that's it. 0.96

02:39:51.000 We're good to go. 0.97

02:39:56.000 We're good to go.

02:40:10.000 Two people's bodies and leaving more in residue of the bullets in Connelly's body than was missing from the actual bullet itself.

02:40:17.000 So much horseshit involved in the concoction of the single bullet theory in the first place.

02:40:23.000 Because they only did it because they had to make up for a guy getting hit with a ricochet on the underpass. 0.83

02:40:28.000 A guy went to the hospital and he got hit and he was doing interviews and talking about it.

02:40:31.000 He got hit with a bullet that hit the curbstone and the ricochet hit him in the head.

02:40:35.000 So this guy had to be treated.

02:40:36.000 So they had to account for that bullet.

02:40:38.000 And one of the ways they accounted for that bullet was all these different wounds on two different people.

02:40:42.000 They attributed them to one bullet.

02:40:43.000 Instead of saying, hey, man, maybe they're getting shot from all over the place.

02:40:47.000 Maybe they're getting shot from the front and shot from the back.

02:40:49.000 No, they tied it all together.

02:40:51.000 The first bullet hole in Kennedy's neck, they turned that into a trach wound.

02:40:55.000 It's a different wound in the Bethesda, Maryland Hospital as it is in the Dallas Hospital.

02:40:59.000 The way it was described in the Dallas Hospital was an entry wound.

02:41:02.000 The way it was described in Bethesda, Maryland, by the time they got a hold of the body and flew it across the country, they turned it into tracheotomy.

02:41:09.000 You don't do a tracheotomy in a guy who doesn't have a head.

02:41:11.000 The guy's dead.

02:41:13.000 I never heard any of that stuff.

02:41:15.000 They had to make something.

02:41:17.000 They had to account for the fact that he had a hole in his neck.

02:41:20.000 So they turned it into a trach wound.

02:41:22.000 He got shot from a bunch of different angles.

02:41:24.000 There's probably several people shooting at him.

02:41:26.000 One of them might have been Lee Harvey Oswald.

02:41:27.000 It's not an either-or.

02:41:29.000 You know, people say Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

02:41:31.000 I don't know.

02:41:31.000 He might have acted.

02:41:32.000 That either-or thing, that's that binary mind control thing. 0.75

02:41:36.000 So you go back and forth like you're getting all bipolar, you know.

02:41:39.000 You're right.

02:41:39.000 You're going back and forth, but you don't see the real truth right there in your face.

02:41:43.000 Here's some real facts of it.

02:41:45.000 Not that those aren't real facts, but...

02:41:47.000 Gerald Ford was the head of the Warren Commission that came out with a certain report and then became the unelected president of the United States.

02:41:59.000 That says a lot.

02:42:01.000 That creep Arlen Spector.

02:42:02.000 He was on the Warren Commission. 0.99

02:42:03.000 The Warren Commission was filled with criminals and crazy people, madmen, that were designed to disseminate propaganda and dress it up as the truth. 0.84

02:42:11.000 Whoever killed Kennedy, whether it was Lee Harvey Oswald delivered the shot, or the idea that what we're getting is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but, that's the most hilarious thing ever. 0.91

02:42:21.000 Why would they ever do that?

02:42:23.000 I don't know, but I agree with you.

02:42:25.000 But did you see Obama shaking Raul Castro's hand at Mandela's funeral, though?

02:42:30.000 No.

02:42:30.000 Did you hear about that?

02:42:31.000 No, but did you see the guy who was doing the fucking translation, the sign language at Mandela's funeral? 0.99

02:42:37.000 That was fucking hilarious. 1.00

02:42:38.000 He's just making shit up. 1.00

02:42:39.000 To me, that shows where there's a problem with conspiracy theory. 1.00

02:42:43.000 That most of the time, it's incompetence.

02:42:45.000 It's human incompetence more than anything else. 0.99

02:42:47.000 And when you got a guy that's just making up sign language shit, standing three feet away from the president, who, oh, by the way, when you go back in his past, turns out that he was arrested for murder and might have been also responsible for rape. 0.99

02:42:59.000 So there's like all these crazy accusations about this guy. 1.00

02:43:01.000 He's a violent schizophrenic.

02:43:02.000 He'd already been arrested at one other time for doing that very same thing. 0.89

02:43:06.000 He got in trouble, rather, for doing that very same thing.

02:43:08.000 How'd he get up there?

02:43:09.000 He did it before.

02:43:09.000 I don't know how he got up there.

02:43:11.000 I don't know who hired him, but he had done that before.

02:43:13.000 We had gone up and pretended to be a sign language guy.

02:43:15.000 Maybe they're telling Obama something, because remember when he went to South America and his guys got busted for the prostitutes thing?

02:43:25.000 Well, that was actually Secret Service people got busted.

02:43:28.000 Well, maybe some of the people that get next to them, they're not really being vetted very well.

02:43:34.000 I certainly think so.

02:43:35.000 I think it's incompetence, like I was saying.

02:43:37.000 I think there's more incompetence in government than we would ever imagine. 1.00

02:43:41.000 Because you can tell that the smart guy, the wizards, they're dumb. 1.00

02:43:47.000 Well, they're smart in some ways, but I think in order to fuck people over, you have to be a liar. 1.00

02:43:52.000 In order to be a liar, you've got to lie to yourself. 0.99

02:43:54.000 I don't think there's any people that are dishonest that are honest with themselves.

02:43:57.000 Because if they were honest with themselves, they would recognize the terrible feeling that comes along with leaving a legacy of sadness and destruction behind you.

02:44:07.000 Leaving a legacy of people upset about your personal actions.

02:44:11.000 That's not a way to be in harmony with life.

02:44:13.000 That's not a way to be happy.

02:44:14.000 And that's why people...

02:44:15.000 But it is for those people, like you said earlier, that are like, I just want to get over.

02:44:19.000 That is a joy for them.

02:44:21.000 I don't think so in that way.

02:44:22.000 They just want to die their way out of it.

02:44:24.000 Die their way out of it.

02:44:26.000 Die their way out. 1.00

02:44:26.000 Just ride that bitch right into the beach. 1.00

02:44:28.000 I got mine. 1.00

02:44:29.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:44:30.000 That's all. 1.00

02:44:31.000 That's all there is.

02:44:32.000 Yeah, I think even those people are not optimally happy.

02:44:36.000 And they probably in some way in the back of their head realize that.

02:44:39.000 Maybe they drink it away.

02:44:39.000 Maybe they pill it away.

02:44:41.000 But the way to be happy is to make people around you feel happy.

02:44:43.000 That's not the way to do it. 0.99

02:44:44.000 Just by fucking people over. 0.98

02:44:45.000 And when you have a million dollars or a billion dollars and you get... 0.99

02:44:49.000 So much money in the bank that you can't even spend it all.

02:44:51.000 You're not going to notice the victories.

02:44:54.000 What you're doing is just continuing to play the game. 0.99

02:44:56.000 Damn, that's really true. 0.99

02:44:58.000 When you became super wealthy, you went from being this person who struggled and were really fucking in poverty, and then all of a sudden, boom! 1.00

02:45:09.000 Insane, incredible wealth. 0.92

02:45:10.000 Once the dust settles, you're still Roseanne.

02:45:13.000 You're still Roseanne. 1.00

02:45:14.000 You've got to deal with new bullshit, but you're still you. 0.99

02:45:16.000 I don't know if I'm still me. 1.00

02:45:18.000 You don't know if you're still you?

02:45:19.000 I think it destroyed my nervous system.

02:45:20.000 I know that.

02:45:21.000 I love that George Harrison said that one time.

02:45:24.000 He said the Beatles thing.

02:45:26.000 He's like, well, the cost was our nervous system.

02:45:28.000 Because of the fame?

02:45:30.000 The pressure?

02:45:30.000 Yeah, it's a lot of pressure.

02:45:32.000 It's a lot of fame.

02:45:33.000 And, you know, I couldn't handle it. 0.99

02:45:35.000 I didn't fucking even know what the fuck it was. 1.00

02:45:39.000 And it just seemed like another bullshit thing. 1.00

02:45:42.000 How old were you when you hit, when it really got crazy? 1.00

02:45:45.000 38. So, that's the same thing, too.

02:45:47.000 First thing I did, I was like, you know, yeah, I did go all the way fucking nuts. 0.99

02:45:54.000 First thing I did, I started like, you know, I started giving away the fucking money. 0.99

02:46:00.000 Because I have like basic beliefs. 0.98

02:46:02.000 Of course, they're all sold out and compromised now.

02:46:04.000 No, I'm kidding.

02:46:05.000 But I did.

02:46:06.000 And so I was like, okay, you know, you've got to, you know, do this, set this up. 0.99

02:46:10.000 But I set up all these crazy fucking nonprofit organizations. 0.97

02:46:15.000 I used my money to, like, you know, try to do what I really wanted. 0.99

02:46:21.000 I thought I could, you know? 1.00

02:46:23.000 Blows against the Empire shit. 1.00

02:46:25.000 And that was so fun because it was like being a pirate or something. 1.00

02:46:29.000 But of course there was a certain time where it's like, you know what?

02:46:32.000 I'm getting a facelift.

02:46:36.000 And then it was like, then I got all GMO'd like that. 0.97

02:46:39.000 I get like, ah! 0.99

02:46:40.000 I got all fucking GMO'd. 0.98

02:46:42.000 It was exciting. 1.00

02:46:44.000 And especially because the pills they give you, they give you these fucking awesome painkillers and shit. 0.99

02:46:49.000 So I just kept having more and more surgery. 0.99

02:46:52.000 And, you know, there was a lot of...

02:46:56.000 Psychotropic drugs.

02:46:58.000 I had about 15 nervous breakdowns.

02:47:02.000 Luckily, no one noticed. 1.00

02:47:06.000 Nobody in my fucking family around me noticed any difference. 1.00

02:47:09.000 Wow. 1.00

02:47:10.000 But you categorized them as nervous breakdowns.

02:47:12.000 Yeah, they were.

02:47:14.000 I had a shitload of them.

02:47:15.000 It's a lot of pressure.

02:47:17.000 It's a lot.

02:47:18.000 It's not fun.

02:47:20.000 I mean, I admire people who are handling it well, but once you get up to that certain level, I mean, you know, I'm just saying, a lot of people, they don't survive that level, and I would see that, you know. 0.97

02:47:32.000 Like when you see a Miley Cyrus going crazy or a Justin Bieber going crazy and everybody has their own criticisms of them, you have a particular way of looking at it where you're like, God, you don't know what the fuck they're dealing with. 0.90

02:47:42.000 No one knows. 0.96

02:47:42.000 No one understands. 0.96

02:47:43.000 You understand in a way that most people would never.

02:47:46.000 Yeah, they can't trust anybody. 0.98

02:47:48.000 Everyone's crazy. 0.84

02:47:49.000 And their life is crazy. 0.98

02:47:50.000 Their reality is crazy.

02:47:51.000 Well, you know, they're just around so many vultures and creepozoids.

02:47:57.000 You know, they don't know if they're coming or going. 1.00

02:48:02.000 Puss the amount of fucking, just the impact of all those people staring at you all the time. 0.99

02:48:07.000 And everywhere you go, you got, especially now, the paparazzi in their face everywhere. 1.00

02:48:10.000 I mean, Justin Bieber can't take a shit without someone having a camera in the toilet. 0.99

02:48:13.000 And that's just the way it is with that life. 0.99

02:48:16.000 And most people can't handle that.

02:48:18.000 It's like a stalking.

02:48:19.000 Like the media, they want to stalk you because they want to destroy you on camera because that would be some good ratings.

02:48:26.000 Well, they also feel like they're allowed to.

02:48:27.000 They're allowed to just shove cameras in your face because you're the famous person.

02:48:31.000 Yeah, I was the first star that, you know, I mean, I had to pay a large amount of money in settlement.

02:48:37.000 But I did make the mistake... 0.99

02:48:42.000 Of hiring some fucking goons to beat the fuck out of some paparazzi. 1.00

02:48:47.000 How much did you have to pay for that? 1.00

02:48:49.000 Oh, I had to pay them all a few thousand.

02:48:51.000 That's worth it.

02:48:52.000 All the paparazzis.

02:48:53.000 What kind of cash do you got?

02:48:54.000 That's worth it.

02:48:55.000 Well, this was way back when.

02:48:56.000 Way back when, the good old days. 0.80

02:48:58.000 When I had a shitload. 0.94

02:48:59.000 You could pay some goons. 0.99

02:49:00.000 I was shitting money. 1.00

02:49:03.000 I was like, yeah, these fucking people, they're just fucking, they're jumping on my car. 1.00

02:49:07.000 I mean, you don't know what it's like when you're, like, panicked, because, you know, you're trying to leave a crowd, and you're in your car, and they're fucking jumping on your car, and they're being encouraged to jump on your car and shit. 1.00

02:49:18.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:49:18.000 It's like, you know, and, you know, some farm boys, they knock my window, you know, I roll it down, and they're like, do you want us to beat the fuck out of them? 0.97

02:49:26.000 We're from fucking Iowa. 0.99

02:49:28.000 I go, yes, I do, sir. 1.00

02:49:31.000 Yeah.

02:49:32.000 They got that hay bale in strength.

02:49:34.000 And they just moved them out of the way so I could leave, but I was a sitting duck. 0.99

02:49:38.000 You know, that kind of shit was weird. 0.98

02:49:40.000 How often are you in California? 1.00

02:49:42.000 You know, I come here every now and then.

02:49:45.000 Will you come back?

02:49:46.000 Will you do this again?

02:49:46.000 Yeah, it was fun.

02:49:47.000 I enjoyed it very much.

02:49:49.000 I enjoyed being with you.

02:49:50.000 It was, and I said for me, as a stand-up comedian, it's an honor.

02:49:55.000 You're sweet.

02:49:57.000 I'm very emotional.

02:49:58.000 By my nuts.

02:49:59.000 No, you're not nuts.

02:50:00.000 You're awesome.

02:50:01.000 But you're one of the greats, in my opinion.

02:50:04.000 Oh, you're very sweet.

02:50:05.000 I do appreciate that.

02:50:06.000 You know, there's a lot of great ones right now.

02:50:08.000 It was a good time for comedy.

02:50:09.000 Good time for comedy.

02:50:10.000 Thank you very much, Roseanne.

02:50:11.000 Good luck for all your stuff. 0.91

02:50:13.000 This was fucking awesome. 0.72

02:50:14.000 I really appreciate it. 0.81

02:50:15.000 And thanks to you guys.

02:50:16.000 We'll be back tomorrow.

02:50:16.000 Do I have to sign this or what?

02:50:17.000 No, you can if you want.

02:50:18.000 If you don't, I love you.

02:50:20.000 That's Buck You is Buck Angel.

02:50:23.000 What's that?

02:50:24.000 Your son's name is Buck?

02:50:26.000 That used to be a girl, and now it's a guy.

02:50:28.000 Buck Angel?

02:50:29.000 I love him.

02:50:31.000 He's awesome.

02:50:32.000 He's a good dude.

02:50:33.000 He came in.

02:50:34.000 He did the podcast.

02:50:35.000 Take that shirt.

02:50:35.000 Alright, we love you.

02:50:37.000 Everybody tuning in, we love you too.

02:50:39.000 Thanks to our podcast sponsor.

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02:50:41.000 Go to rogan.ting.com.

02:50:43.000 Save yourself some money.

02:50:44.000 And we'll see you tomorrow.

02:50:45.000 Big kiss.

The Joe Rogan Experience - December 30, 2013

Joe Rogan Experience #434 - Roseanne Barr

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