The Joe Rogan Experience - August 13, 2014


Joe Rogan Experience #535 - Scroobius Pip

Topics
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Joe Rogan
Guests
Scroobius Pip
Mentioned
Freeway Rick Ross Doritos Brian Milli Vanilli Jimi Hendrix Ting Elton John MeUndies Lee Harvey Oswald Oliver North Orrin Hatch Madonna Kennedy Roswell Arlen Specter Dave Attell Eddie Bravo Curtis Lowe Anita Hill Herb Dean and 92 more
Joe Rogan Experience #533 - Chris D'Elia Joe Rogan Experience #536 - Joe Quirk

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Length

2 hours and 51 minutes

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186.27

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32,036

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3,354

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Misogyny

43

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Toxicity

858

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Hate speech

51

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In this episode, we talk about why you should change your underwear more than once every seven years and why MeUndies are the most comfortable things you can wear on your body. We also talk about what to do if you have a dick that keeps opening up and you don t change it once in a long time and you want to keep it in place, but you don't have a pair that you know for sure that you've had for a long ass time that you can change? Then you need to keep that shit clean. We also discuss how to keep your dick in place and how to make sure it doesn't open up too much more than it has been for a while and how important it is to change it and keep it from opening up any more than you already have and how you should keep your pants clean and keep them in place so you can keep your balls in place. And we also discuss why you shouldn't have to wear the same pair of underwear you've been wearing for years. and why it's a good idea to at least change them once a few times a year. Enjoy the episode and stay tuned for next week's episode of Allucks Fucking Fucks Allucks! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. We do not own the rights to any of the music used in this episode. All credit goes to original artists and all rights reserved. Thank you to my good friend, John Doe for producing the music for the intro and outtro and the rest of this episode and the amazing music used for the music we used to make this episode of Allucks and for the background music for this episode we did not edit and produced by our music was done by our ad music was produced and edited by us. . We are not compensated for any of our music is provided by any other patrons or any other services provided by our patrons. Thanks to our good friends, we are working for us and all the hard work done by us by our wonderful patrons. Thank you so much for all of our hard work and support us, we really appreciate all the support we got back from all of the support and support we've gotten back from this amazing people. we appreciate it. - Thank you for all the love and support, we truly appreciate all of you. thank you for making us out here.

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00:00:02.000 Hello, sweet bitches of the internet. 1.00
00:00:04.000 That's right. 0.98
00:00:05.000 We're back.
00:00:06.000 This episode is brought to you by MeUndies.
00:00:10.000 This is a disturbing thing that has been discovered due to an internet survey.
00:00:15.000 It said most men don't change their underwear but once every seven years. 1.00
00:00:18.000 That shit's fucked up. 1.00
00:00:20.000 It's more than that for me. 1.00
00:00:21.000 That's fucked up. 1.00
00:00:22.000 That's your dick hammock, son. 1.00
00:00:23.000 You need to keep that shit clean. 1.00
00:00:25.000 You don't have a pair of underwear that you know for sure that you've had for a long-ass time. 1.00
00:00:28.000 I try to get rid of them.
00:00:30.000 But I'm going to be honest with you.
00:00:32.000 I never bought nice underwear before.
00:00:34.000 I just would buy underwear.
00:00:35.000 Like whatever.
00:00:36.000 Like a big packet of them. 1.00
00:00:38.000 As long as they kept my dick in place. 1.00
00:00:39.000 I get very upset if the dick hole opens up and I got to keep tucking the hamster back into the cage. 1.00
00:00:44.000 That's bullshit. 0.99
00:00:46.000 So, until these MeUndies guys sent me underwear, these are the best underwear I've ever worn, without a doubt. 0.99
00:00:52.000 And I was thinking about it when I put them on. 0.99
00:00:53.000 I was like, why wouldn't I want, like, comfortable underwear on my balls and my dick? 1.00
00:00:58.000 Like, I would, right? 0.99
00:00:59.000 So, why haven't I not, like, spent money on, like, some nice underwear?
00:01:03.000 I've never spent money on nice underwear.
00:01:04.000 I just bought... 1.00
00:01:05.000 Fucking whatever. 0.99
00:01:06.000 So then these MeUndies guys, they sent me it. 0.99
00:01:09.000 And at first I was like a little bit skeptical. 0.99
00:01:11.000 I was like, it's fucking underwear, man. 1.00
00:01:12.000 Who gives a shit about underwear? 1.00
00:01:13.000 You go to get underwear at a store. 1.00
00:01:14.000 But they have like really high quality shit. 1.00
00:01:17.000 Like it feels good. 1.00
00:01:18.000 It's like they have moisture.
00:01:21.000 Like it pulls moisture away from your body.
00:01:24.000 Their underwear is like super high-end stuff. 0.99
00:01:26.000 You know, my dick is being strangled right now and I think a ball is hanging out. 0.99
00:01:31.000 And I've always just accepted like, oh, that's just sitting. 0.99
00:01:34.000 That's just your choices. 1.00
00:01:35.000 You've got ropes around your dick. 1.00
00:01:37.000 What are you talking about? 1.00
00:01:37.000 No, my underwear's way too tight. 1.00
00:01:39.000 Like, this underwear that I'm wearing, I know I've had for a long time, and it's super, super tight.
00:01:43.000 Do you have the same underwear from back when you lost a ton of weight?
00:01:46.000 Yeah.
00:01:46.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:01:47.000 I mean, I have underwear that I know I've had for a long time.
00:01:50.000 Because it's kind of like, if it still works, why would you throw it away?
00:01:53.000 It's like a towel.
00:01:54.000 Well, MeUndies is your solution, son, okay? 1.00
00:01:57.000 And they will pull some moisture away from your dick and give you some shit that fits. 1.00
00:02:01.000 The most comfortable underwear you have ever tried on. 1.00
00:02:04.000 They fit perfectly. 0.99
00:02:06.000 They don't strangle your dick. 1.00
00:02:09.000 And they literally do pull moisture away from your skin. 0.99
00:02:11.000 So that will help you, like, with people that have, like...
00:02:14.000 Yeastier things going on. 1.00
00:02:15.000 Well, you should probably clean yourself, you fucking dirty pig. 1.00
00:02:18.000 But, once you do do that, yeah. 1.00
00:02:21.000 I mean, guys with diabetes have yeasty dicks, you know? 0.99
00:02:24.000 Do they really? 0.99
00:02:24.000 How do you know? 0.99
00:02:25.000 How many guys with diabetes are you blowing?
00:02:27.000 Dude, when I got that male yeast infection, I studied it for a long time.
00:02:31.000 I'm sure you did.
00:02:31.000 I'm sure it wasn't just a cursory use.
00:02:34.000 Glamps on Google and then back to business.
00:02:37.000 Where do they pull the moisture to?
00:02:39.000 They take it to Canada.
00:02:40.000 There's not a lot going on down there.
00:02:42.000 We steal a lot from Canada.
00:02:43.000 That's what we give back.
00:02:45.000 Ball sweat.
00:02:46.000 Is there gutters to this?
00:02:47.000 Or does your pants just become wet?
00:02:50.000 It becomes like a parachute for ball sweat.
00:02:54.000 It just captures it all.
00:02:56.000 Anyway, MeUndies.com.
00:02:58.000 Go there.
00:02:58.000 They're awesome underwear.
00:02:59.000 I'm wearing them right now.
00:03:00.000 They're very, very, very comfortable. 1.00
00:03:02.000 And, you know, change your fucking underwear more than once every seven years, you pigs. 1.00
00:03:07.000 Go to MeUndies.com forward slash Rogan before September 1st and get 20% off your first order. 1.00
00:03:13.000 20% off of your first order when you go to MeUndies.com forward slash Rogan before September 1st, which is a couple weeks from now. 0.99
00:03:22.000 All right, fucks. 0.99
00:03:22.000 Enjoy. 0.99
00:03:23.000 MeUndies.com.
00:03:26.000 We're also brought to you by Ting. 0.85
00:03:51.000 We're good to go.
00:04:16.000 It doesn't make any sense if you pay for 120 minutes, but you only use 100. Where's those 20 minutes?
00:04:20.000 They're gone.
00:04:21.000 They're evaporated.
00:04:23.000 But with Ting, 98% of people who use Ting would save money.
00:04:27.000 And again, they use the Sprint backbone.
00:04:29.000 They rent time on Sprint, so it's a major network.
00:04:31.000 And they do it in like a very ethical way, in a way that just makes you feel good about working with the company. 0.93
00:04:38.000 I think that's how it should be, like contracts and termination fees and all this legal bullshit.
00:04:44.000 With Ting, you buy a phone, you buy a phone, you have it, it's yours. 0.99
00:04:48.000 And then if you want to cancel them, you tell them, go fuck yourself, and you just cancel. 1.00
00:04:51.000 And that's it. 1.00
00:04:52.000 And you're in.
00:04:52.000 You're out.
00:04:53.000 You do whatever you want to do.
00:04:54.000 That's how it should be. 0.99
00:04:55.000 You know, this idea about being able to control people with contracts, it's fucking gross. 0.98
00:05:02.000 I don't like it. 0.99
00:05:03.000 I don't like it, Brian.
00:05:04.000 I don't like it.
00:05:05.000 It's so cheap, though.
00:05:06.000 And they have family plans now where you can add somebody for really cheap.
00:05:10.000 So if you have a girlfriend, you can throw her on your plan. 0.53
00:05:13.000 Check it out.
00:05:14.000 You can just go to plans, go to Ting, look at the different plans.
00:05:16.000 Yeah, rogan.ting.com.
00:05:18.000 If you go there, you can see all the different cell phones they sell as well, like Brian was showing them on the screen earlier.
00:05:25.000 Some serious high-end Android phones.
00:05:27.000 The one I got is the Samsung Galaxy S5. I just got it.
00:05:30.000 I love it.
00:05:31.000 You know what else I love about it?
00:05:32.000 It's water-resistant.
00:05:35.000 The bottom of it, it plugs in, and you can throw it in the toilet.
00:05:40.000 If you wanted to, it would be okay.
00:05:41.000 You can use it as toilet paper and throw it in the toilet.
00:05:43.000 I don't think you're allowed to do that. 1.00
00:05:44.000 You can't wipe your ass on it, because then you'll get like... 0.99
00:05:47.000 But if you just dropped it. 1.00
00:05:49.000 Have you ever dropped your phone in the toilet?
00:05:50.000 I've dropped my phone in the toilet.
00:05:51.000 Yeah.
00:05:52.000 We all have.
00:05:53.000 While on poop.
00:05:54.000 And I had to grab it on poop.
00:05:56.000 Yeah.
00:05:56.000 I've dropped it while brushing my teeth in the sink.
00:05:59.000 I've got water all over it. 0.99
00:06:00.000 I've fucked phones up before dropping them. 0.98
00:06:02.000 But with these Galaxy S5s, you don't have to worry about that. 0.98
00:06:05.000 Actually, the bottom closes up.
00:06:07.000 It's got a little tab that closes in on the bottom. 0.99
00:06:09.000 And the top, apparently, you can go underwater with these fucking things. 0.99
00:06:12.000 A lot of people think I was stupid when I said that story about having to suck the water out of my phone. 0.98
00:06:17.000 Because a lot of people throw it in rice, and I'm always like, get the water out of there first. 0.99
00:06:21.000 But a lot of people said that was the dumbest thing they ever heard.
00:06:26.000 And so I went online to all this Howard Forums, and I researched it. 0.82
00:06:29.000 No, that totally makes sense.
00:06:30.000 Get the water out of there.
00:06:32.000 Maybe use a vacuum cleaner if you have one.
00:06:34.000 Probably wouldn't be as good as your mouth, because your mouth would seal it.
00:06:36.000 And you could get a good amount of...
00:06:38.000 Yeah.
00:06:39.000 You can get a good amount of suction with that. 0.99
00:06:41.000 Yeah, and just fucking be a man about it and brush your teeth afterwards. 1.00
00:06:45.000 Just suck your phone. 1.00
00:06:46.000 This guy's invented this pack that you put a phone in if it's got wet, and you put it in more liquid, which sounds crazy, but it counteracts what the water's doing. 0.99
00:06:56.000 Really?
00:06:56.000 It's absolutely bizarre.
00:06:57.000 Apparently, it would have been huge because their plan was to put it in airports, but because it's a bag of liquid, it didn't go.
00:07:04.000 Oh, right.
00:07:04.000 Because that's the perfect thing to have at airports.
00:07:07.000 But yeah, you put it in and it's...
00:07:08.000 So yeah, I don't know.
00:07:09.000 It counters what the water does somehow.
00:07:11.000 So it's not just the fact it's liquid.
00:07:14.000 It's something in it that erodes everything away.
00:07:17.000 That's fascinating.
00:07:17.000 I wonder what it is.
00:07:18.000 I remember they were doing those things where they were dipping phones.
00:07:21.000 Remember that?
00:07:21.000 You'd send off a phone to a company.
00:07:23.000 Do they still do that?
00:07:24.000 Yeah.
00:07:24.000 They even sell it now at just like Lowe's.
00:07:26.000 You can buy the same chemical now.
00:07:28.000 Really?
00:07:28.000 You could dip your own phone?
00:07:29.000 Yeah.
00:07:29.000 I think we shared the commercial on this podcast.
00:07:31.000 No, no, no.
00:07:32.000 Yeah, we did.
00:07:33.000 Did we?
00:07:33.000 Yeah.
00:07:33.000 I wasn't paying attention.
00:07:35.000 I was trying to avoid you.
00:07:36.000 Hey! 0.99
00:07:38.000 No, I don't remember that at all, man.
00:07:39.000 I really don't.
00:07:40.000 Yeah, they sell it now at Lowe's.
00:07:42.000 Maybe you did it on one of yours podcasts.
00:07:43.000 No, no, no.
00:07:44.000 I remember it because we talked about it and we showed a commercial about it.
00:07:46.000 I don't remember. 0.99
00:07:47.000 There's been too many goddamn podcasts. 0.96
00:07:48.000 So how hard is it to do? 0.99
00:07:50.000 Is it easy?
00:07:51.000 Yeah, it's pretty easy.
00:07:52.000 Why doesn't everybody do that then?
00:07:54.000 I don't know.
00:07:55.000 You can like dip your clothes in it.
00:07:56.000 Like if you work outside a lot, your shoes, your shoes. 1.00
00:08:00.000 Do you throw the whole phone in this bullshit? 0.99
00:08:02.000 Because what about the screen? 1.00
00:08:03.000 Does it fuck with the screen? 0.97
00:08:04.000 I don't know. 0.98
00:08:05.000 Here, I'll show you.
00:08:07.000 No, let's just get through this commercial.
00:08:09.000 People are mad.
00:08:10.000 I get so many tweets about how long these commercials are. 1.00
00:08:13.000 Tough shit. 1.00
00:08:15.000 You know how to use the fast forward, bitch. 1.00
00:08:19.000 Use it. 0.98
00:08:20.000 Anyway, go to rogan.ting.com and save $25 off of any of their awesome new phones.
00:08:26.000 Rogan.ting.com.
00:08:28.000 Enjoy it!
00:08:30.000 And that's it.
00:08:32.000 This episode of the podcast, the commercials are now officially over.
00:08:36.000 Scroobius Pip is here.
00:08:38.000 Let's just get cracking with this thing, shall we?
00:08:41.000 The Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
00:08:43.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:08:49.000 What's happening, fella?
00:08:51.000 I'm good, man.
00:08:51.000 How you doing?
00:08:52.000 It's been cool to talk to you from the moment you got here 25-plus minutes ago.
00:08:56.000 Been hanging out.
00:08:56.000 We did a lot of talking with Jack Black, who's a very cool dude.
00:09:00.000 Pretend there's some crazy stories of Russia, but yeah.
00:09:04.000 Yeah, he's tired.
00:09:05.000 Robin Black was telling us some awesome stories of these Russian dudes that he partied with, these sumo wrestlers.
00:09:14.000 It was insane. 0.70
00:09:16.000 What he was saying was so ridiculous, the stories of excess and drinking. 1.00
00:09:21.000 Waking up covered in urine, and we videotaped it, so Jamie will put that shit up later. 0.99
00:09:27.000 But it was really funny. 0.99
00:09:28.000 He was a cool dude, man.
00:09:29.000 I really like Robin.
00:09:30.000 Yeah, good guy.
00:09:31.000 Yeah, interesting guy.
00:09:32.000 From another country he is. 0.52
00:09:34.000 As are you, sir.
00:09:35.000 Yes, indeed I am.
00:09:36.000 Yeah, all the way from England. 1.00
00:09:38.000 I saw your shit on my message board. 1.00
00:09:40.000 It was the first time I saw your shit. 1.00
00:09:41.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:09:42.000 Some people put up one of the videos was of you...
00:09:45.000 You're cutting your hair on your beard.
00:09:47.000 Intradiction.
00:09:48.000 Intradiction. 1.00
00:09:49.000 That's a great fucking rap, dude. 0.99
00:09:50.000 That's really fun. 0.99
00:09:51.000 I spent £100 on that video.
00:09:53.000 Did you?
00:09:53.000 That was my complete budget.
00:09:55.000 Can we play that?
00:09:56.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:09:57.000 Let's go ahead.
00:09:57.000 Let's play that and talk about it.
00:09:59.000 Brian, pull it up.
00:10:00.000 It's Intradiction.
00:10:04.000 You gotta tell him how to spell it.
00:10:06.000 I can't spell it.
00:10:09.000 It's my fault as well for picking a name that's ridiculously hard to spell and pronounce.
00:10:13.000 Yeah, it's Scroobius Pips, a tough one for Twitter.
00:10:16.000 It's not easy.
00:10:17.000 It's not easy to fit in.
00:10:18.000 Some people, do they try O-U? Yeah, yeah, they try O-U-S, yeah.
00:10:22.000 Hmm, screws.
00:10:24.000 Yeah.
00:10:24.000 They get it in the end.
00:10:26.000 Eventually.
00:10:27.000 Here we go.
00:10:31.000 I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought, what did you expect? 1.00
00:10:34.000 There's no water round here, stupid. 1.00
00:10:36.000 Should've stayed where it was wet. 1.00
00:10:39.000 You gotta see this. 0.96
00:10:40.000 Hello my name is Pip and I would like to speak some lyrics Into this microphone that's amplified so you can hear it This piece of diction is the intro to distraction pieces That's all the shit that flies around my head and keeps me sleepless Such little food for full my fucking brain feels anorexic So many typos when I write, 0.96
00:10:57.000 oh I'll claim I'm dyslexic I've got your poem here, I've put it in this envelope I'm setting fire to it, hope you all can read the smoke Most people where I live don't know me and I fucking like it. 0.97
00:11:08.000 Some people where I live don't like me and I fucking know it. 0.55
00:11:11.000 Some heads won't know my name or give me a look since I flow kinda strange like Spina Bifida footprints. 0.90
00:11:20.000 I flow kinda strange like Spina Bifida footprints. 0.98
00:11:30.000 Nothing's original, I stole this flow from the creator And from some others too, can't think right now, I'll name them later If I say fuck a lot, well then I may gain more attention If I say cunt, well then with some of you there will be tension I find this interesting, cause in the end they are just words You give them power when you cower, 0.96
00:11:48.000 man, it's so absurd But all that was covered by Lily Bruce back in the day Nothing's original, now I'm repeating what I say Paralysis through analysis could stop me here I'll brandish the blindest man's anguish with a ram fist Directed at the throat of any man that can withstand I'll brandish the blindest man's anguish with a ram fist I 0.95
00:12:21.000 see these rappers that say things like no homo and such It always seems maybe the lady duff protests too much I'm really speechless but I speak less than you might imagine Sometimes I snutter and I sputter like I'm known to write about the shit most people won't discuss. 0.93
00:12:36.000 Sometimes my music's too intrusive with their words and such. 0.99
00:12:40.000 You see a mousetrap, I see free cheese and a fucking challenge. 0.96
00:12:43.000 But you stay quiet, the fear of ticking the balance. 0.99
00:12:46.000 When it's horses for courses, my horse is distorted. 0.97
00:12:49.000 I bought it for four quid, then forced it through horseshit. 0.98
00:12:52.000 We walked through these morbid, remorseless discourses and discussed these disgusting new sources. 0.99
00:13:06.000 That is great.
00:13:08.000 That's really fun, man.
00:13:10.000 That's really fun.
00:13:11.000 I really enjoyed that.
00:13:12.000 I thought the lyrics were cool.
00:13:14.000 I like how you did it.
00:13:15.000 It was interesting. 0.97
00:13:16.000 It's crazy because we We filmed that in just a metal container, and the guy, we'd rented it off, we didn't tell him what the fuck we were doing, because I figured we can only do it in one take, because I've got to shave my head and shit, so I thought, if we ask him, he can say no. 0.77
00:13:29.000 If we do it, he can just tell us off afterwards, and that's that. 0.96
00:13:33.000 So as it finished, obviously, there's tons of fire, we're setting shit on fire, and we had to have the doors closed because of lighting.
00:13:39.000 So we're in a metal container, just burning everything, and then I piled out with smoke bellowing, and the guy just walked past and just went...
00:13:46.000 Pip, I don't even want to know.
00:13:48.000 And walked on, I was like, good man, good man, you've saved the day.
00:13:51.000 What a great scene.
00:13:53.000 You're coming out of a video shoot and it's on fire.
00:13:55.000 Hair hanging off of me, fire, smoke.
00:13:57.000 Your head's shaved. 1.00
00:14:00.000 Your head's shaved and the fucking door opens to a storage container and there's smoke bellowing out. 1.00
00:14:05.000 What a great scene. 1.00
00:14:07.000 That's rock and roll, man. 1.00
00:14:08.000 That's some real shit. 1.00
00:14:09.000 It's the beauty of... 1.00
00:14:10.000 Directing all your own videos is you don't have to do health and safety shit. 0.98
00:14:13.000 You don't have to tick that off. 0.96
00:14:14.000 There's no one to say you can't do that. 0.98
00:14:16.000 It's like, yeah, we can fucking do that. 0.95
00:14:17.000 It's true. 0.98
00:14:19.000 How did you get started rapping, man?
00:14:20.000 Well, do you consider that rap?
00:14:22.000 Yeah, kind of.
00:14:23.000 I mean, I started off in spoken word, so I started off just kind of with no beats, but I was into hip-hop, and again, a lot of people hear spoken word and think that sounds...
00:14:32.000 Shit, basically, in poetry and that, but I was exactly the same.
00:14:36.000 Well, spoken word has potential, right? 0.99
00:14:39.000 Completely.
00:14:39.000 I mean, what do people like?
00:14:41.000 I mean, people love.
00:14:42.000 I have a dream!
00:14:43.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:14:44.000 I have a dream is goddamn spoken word. 0.98
00:14:46.000 I mean, Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream speech is... 0.97
00:14:48.000 It's why I always refer to it as spoken word rather than poetry or anything else, because that's the most literal.
00:14:53.000 Right.
00:14:53.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:14:53.000 A really...
00:14:55.000 An intricate stand-up set that's like one piece that's a whole story, that's spoken word.
00:15:00.000 Does the word poetry, does poet, does that have a bad connotation, like a pretentious connotation? 0.99
00:15:06.000 It puts people off and people kind of think you're a dick. 1.00
00:15:07.000 Yeah, you're a dick, right? 1.00
00:15:09.000 I remember I was at the Comedy Cellar in New York and David Tell's on stage and he's killing. 1.00
00:15:15.000 And there's this snotty fuck in the audience and for some reason the guy took offense to one of Dave's jokes and says something. 0.98
00:15:22.000 And Dave's like, well, I'm sorry, sir. 0.99
00:15:24.000 I'm just up here trying to do some jokes.
00:15:26.000 What do you do for a living, sir?
00:15:28.000 And the guy goes, I'm a poet.
00:15:30.000 Published.
00:15:31.000 And I'll never forget that!
00:15:33.000 And for a year, I was saying that to people.
00:15:35.000 I'm a poet.
00:15:36.000 Published. 0.96
00:15:38.000 For ages, we're trying to get insurance and shit like that.
00:15:41.000 I'd try and explain what I do and then just go with unemployed or self-employed.
00:15:46.000 I put poetry on my thing. 1.00
00:15:49.000 I'll never forget that, asshole. 0.99
00:15:50.000 I'm a poet. 1.00
00:15:52.000 Published. 0.99
00:15:52.000 And he had, like, fashionable clothes on and shit. 0.99
00:15:55.000 You know, he's just... 0.99
00:15:56.000 He totally lives at home still with his mom.
00:15:59.000 100%.
00:16:00.000 I bet Dave Attell doesn't even remember it, but I remember it.
00:16:03.000 It wasn't even me that got heckled. 0.99
00:16:06.000 Fuckheads. 0.99
00:16:07.000 But yes, obviously I'm not in love with poetry. 0.99
00:16:10.000 I started doing it because I was in some punk bands and shit like that, and I got sick of relying on drummers, their mum giving them a lift to practice, and the bassist can't make it because he's working a night shift and shit like that.
00:16:24.000 So I was looking at what I could do and succeed or fail on my own.
00:16:27.000 I loved the buzz of the fact that if it went well, it's my fault.
00:16:29.000 If I fail, I can't say, oh, it's this other guy's fault.
00:16:32.000 That's a real problem with bands, huh?
00:16:34.000 Eddie Bravo was trying to explain to me like the trials and tribulations that the average band goes through and I was thinking about it when we had the conversation like I never even thought about that before but dealing with all those egos together and and then also some people that are just undisciplined yeah completely some people aren't as passionate about it as you are or it's just a fun thing for them and equally accepting gigs and shit like that you have to ring through like four or five other people to say can we accept this gig it's like Yeah.
00:17:02.000 It's awful to me.
00:17:03.000 Yeah.
00:17:04.000 So that's kind of why I started doing spoken word.
00:17:06.000 Yeah, so I could do it all off my own back.
00:17:09.000 It was just the hate of being in bands, really.
00:17:11.000 You know what I like about what you did, too?
00:17:14.000 For whatever reason, there's a lot of guys who speak a certain way, and then when they perform rap, it sounds like an urban black guy.
00:17:23.000 Yeah, completely.
00:17:23.000 It's very strange.
00:17:24.000 It's like, what happened that you had to start doing it like this?
00:17:28.000 Because that's not how you would talk in real life, miss.
00:17:31.000 I would...
00:17:32.000 I was raised in the hood, but I'm strong from my...
00:17:35.000 It blows my mind that the most common thing that people say to me after shows and that is like, oh, you sound exactly like you do on record.
00:17:43.000 It's because this is my voice.
00:17:45.000 This is me talking.
00:17:47.000 Yeah, there was an article recently about why people with British accents sing in an American accent. 0.98
00:17:54.000 I don't remember what the fucking conclusion was. 0.97
00:17:57.000 I barely paid attention. 0.99
00:17:58.000 I looked at it.
00:17:59.000 I'm like, who cares?
00:18:00.000 They just choose to.
00:18:02.000 But there's a difference between an English guy choosing to sound American and an American guy choosing to sound British.
00:18:09.000 Because if an English guy comes over to America and loses his British accent, nobody's going to give him a hard time about it. 0.99
00:18:15.000 But if an American guy takes on a British accent, get the fuck out of here. 1.00
00:18:19.000 Madonna can live in London until her tits fall off. 1.00
00:18:22.000 You're not British. 1.00
00:18:23.000 Cut it out.
00:18:24.000 You cut it out.
00:18:25.000 You cut it out, Madonna. 1.00
00:18:27.000 Don't give a fuck if you bought a house there. 1.00
00:18:28.000 That rich bitch, she bought a house there just so she could talk in an English accent. 1.00
00:18:32.000 I just want to be one of the lords. 1.00
00:18:35.000 Come on.
00:18:36.000 I am Madonna.
00:18:37.000 I am a dancer slash singer slash superstar.
00:18:42.000 Was Madonna knighted?
00:18:44.000 She should be. 1.00
00:18:47.000 And fucking, what's his name, Elton John. 0.99
00:18:49.000 I was listening to Country Comfort on the way over here. 0.99
00:18:52.000 Just randomly, sometimes like my iPhone syncs up with my car and just play, you know how it does it sometimes?
00:18:58.000 We'll just play a random song. 0.99
00:18:59.000 And it just started playing, it's on one of my playlists, but that Elton John song, Country Comfort, that motherfucker could sing his ass off. 1.00
00:19:07.000 God damn, Elton John's good. 0.99
00:19:10.000 There's so much emotion and power in his songs. 0.99
00:19:13.000 It takes you right to what he's singing.
00:19:16.000 It's about grandma needing help to fix her barn.
00:19:21.000 And you're seeing the whole thing play out.
00:19:24.000 You're seeing fields of wheat and butterflies and an old lady. 1.00
00:19:28.000 Elton John's a bad motherfucker. 0.99
00:19:30.000 But does he sound like Elton John when he sings? 0.99
00:19:33.000 Not really, right?
00:19:34.000 It's not really an American accent, though, is it?
00:19:37.000 It's kind of hard to say.
00:19:38.000 It's hard to say because when you're singing, you're extending these words.
00:19:44.000 I mean, he sang farm and it's taken him like 10 seconds.
00:19:47.000 She needs some help to run the farm. 1.00
00:19:51.000 Nobody talks like that.
00:19:53.000 I've got a starter, so I do kind of talk like that.
00:19:55.000 This might end up being a really long podcast.
00:19:58.000 They're normally three hours.
00:19:59.000 This will be like six hours, seven hours.
00:20:02.000 Lock yourselves in.
00:20:03.000 Yeah, singing's a weird thing, man.
00:20:06.000 Singing's a beautiful thing.
00:20:07.000 But spoken word to music is a very different thing.
00:20:10.000 Spoken word to music, it's very lyrically dependent.
00:20:17.000 That's the word for it.
00:20:18.000 That was what I really enjoyed about your stuff, is it was very clever.
00:20:22.000 I could see that you put a lot of thought into your lyrics.
00:20:25.000 And I love the thing about Lenny Bruce.
00:20:27.000 You covered it in a really cool way.
00:20:31.000 And then you could also tell it was one take.
00:20:33.000 Yeah, it's trying to...
00:20:34.000 Whenever I'm writing, the main goal is to make it interesting to me, kind of thing.
00:20:39.000 And that's what I think confuses me about a lot of hip-hop, when it is all just talking about the same thing.
00:20:44.000 It's like, I'd get bored performing that, or doing that over and over again, so it's kind of...
00:20:48.000 You know what?
00:20:49.000 That exists, I think, in every art form.
00:20:51.000 I bet it exists in rock and roll.
00:20:52.000 I know it exists in comedy.
00:20:55.000 There's certain subjects that guys will cover when you can tell they're covering it because they think that the audience wants to hear that, and it's not what's actually interesting to them.
00:21:06.000 Yeah.
00:21:06.000 I can't imagine getting excited finishing a line or finishing a piece that's just exactly that kind of, oh, I think people will...
00:21:13.000 Yeah.
00:21:14.000 Enjoy that.
00:21:14.000 Well, there's a lot of people that do do that, though.
00:21:16.000 It's weird, like, those hitmaker guys who, like, sit down, they write these songs that they know specifically will hit, like, a target nerve.
00:21:24.000 See, I understand that, because they're writing that for someone else to have to perform and sell their sold every night to kind of sing and get through.
00:21:31.000 I can understand that, because they're just going, I'm going to write this and make a fuck ton of money and then hand this over to some other guy to jump up there and...
00:21:40.000 Wasn't there a band where the lead singer was one of those guys that would write songs for a lot of...
00:21:44.000 Like Train didn't...
00:21:45.000 Isn't that what I'm thinking of?
00:21:49.000 No.
00:21:50.000 But what was that... 0.99
00:21:51.000 What the fuck was Train? 0.98
00:21:53.000 There was this one band... 1.00
00:21:55.000 Fuck, I'm not going to remember. 1.00
00:21:57.000 I'm not going to remember. 1.00
00:21:58.000 But I remember this guy...
00:21:59.000 They were going to be as big as the one he writes the songs for.
00:22:01.000 Well, he made one that he released himself.
00:22:04.000 It was pretty recently.
00:22:06.000 It was a big hit.
00:22:08.000 But it was one of those songs where I couldn't get into it because it was well done, but I could tell that it was a calculated thing.
00:22:17.000 It's ticking all the boxes.
00:22:18.000 It's got a formula that makes it work.
00:22:19.000 Yeah, as opposed to there's certain songs where you don't even know why you like it.
00:22:26.000 There's this...
00:22:28.000 There's this old Leonard Skinner song, The Battle of Curtis Lowe, and it's one of those songs, the ballad of Curtis Lowe, and it's one of those songs where you hear it, you don't even know what is going on that this song is just...
00:22:46.000 Captivating me in such a unique way, like making me emotional, like making me feel that moment.
00:22:53.000 And you can tell when they feel like they've been written like that.
00:22:56.000 Like one of the things I liked about when that song, Intradiction, kind of blew up was No one kind of noticed for ages that it's not got a chorus.
00:23:03.000 It's not got a hook.
00:23:05.000 Right.
00:23:06.000 It's not got anything. 0.98
00:23:07.000 But people didn't notice that because they were kind of captivated and into it and didn't think about, all right, you're meant to kind of go verse, chorus, verse, bridge, you know, this kind of shit.
00:23:16.000 So it's kind of nice when that works and you can tell it's just... 0.79
00:23:22.000 Just what came out and what was natural.
00:23:24.000 But you pieced that together, right?
00:23:26.000 That's a piece.
00:23:27.000 You started working on that, you developed it.
00:23:30.000 When you do something like that and you develop a piece, do you write it all out?
00:23:35.000 How long is that whole song?
00:23:37.000 It's about three and a half minutes or so?
00:23:38.000 Three and a half minutes, yeah.
00:23:39.000 And do you develop it at three and a half minutes?
00:23:42.000 Do you add to it along the way?
00:23:44.000 Is it completely written before you ever get to the stage?
00:23:47.000 Yeah, it's all completely written before I get to the stage.
00:23:50.000 The stage, a lot of that song in particular, I mean, I'm noting stuff on my phone all the time and just, yeah, I'm making note of just good lines or good ideas or topics or subjects.
00:24:00.000 Like maybe you have like a new line that just pops in your head and you want to add it to it.
00:24:03.000 Yeah, I mean, in my notes always, I'm going to have something awful in there now.
00:24:08.000 But it'll just be notes, even if it's just, even if it isn't a line or a turn of phrase.
00:24:13.000 My last note was saying about how loads of rappers at the moment are going on about going beast mode.
00:24:19.000 And beast mode being a thing.
00:24:20.000 I've just written one saying, do one about going Depeche mode.
00:24:24.000 That's literally, there's no lyric there.
00:24:26.000 I've not structured that yet.
00:24:27.000 Right, right, right.
00:24:28.000 It's just, right, I'll do something with that.
00:24:30.000 So then on a song like that, because a lot of my songs are stories as well, though.
00:24:33.000 But one like that, it's easy to go through all these kind of weird little ideas or phrases or even like bits of philosophy and shit like that just to go, right, I'll put that in there.
00:24:43.000 Right, right.
00:24:44.000 That's the coolest thing about creating your own stuff, right, is that you could just decide.
00:24:48.000 What goes in, you could decide.
00:24:50.000 And it's just, I mean, the thing that I buzz about it the most is that you don't know what's good until you put it out there.
00:24:57.000 Yeah. 0.97
00:24:57.000 But I genuinely, on that one, there's a line, you see a mousetrap, I see free cheese and a fucking challenge. 0.97
00:25:02.000 Right.
00:25:04.000 It was just one of loads of lines, and then when that came out, it's the one that everyone was going crazy on, and everyone was tweeting.
00:25:09.000 I had no idea that that was the standout, because you're so in it that you've got so much you're putting together.
00:25:17.000 That was one of many standouts.
00:25:19.000 There's a lot of great lyrics in that, but yeah, that's definitely a standout part of it.
00:25:23.000 That's really cool, man.
00:25:26.000 I love anything like that where it's like one guy piecing something together, whether it's music or whether it's a book, like talking to an author about creating a book, or whether it's a stand-up comedian creating an act or a guy writing a movie or anything.
00:25:41.000 There's something about that creative process.
00:25:43.000 And there's so much more now where that's so much more acceptable and doable because of the internet and because of Being able to get whatever your one passion is out there that you can kind of just be it doesn't have to be a team of right as a team of people doing this and that you can find a lot more people have got that just One vision.
00:26:00.000 Yeah, and then just yeah see what it turns into.
00:26:03.000 Yeah Yeah, and when you like have this one thing that comes out of your own mind and You put it together and you it's like We were talking about this with comedy.
00:26:14.000 When somebody becomes a Pip fan, you're the only one that can give them that stuff.
00:26:19.000 It's crazy.
00:26:20.000 They're looking to see what comes out of your head.
00:26:24.000 It's crazy as well, though.
00:26:26.000 Again, I'm sure it's the same with stand-up.
00:26:28.000 It's that weird thing of...
00:26:29.000 All of it, as much as you put into it, it's just what you think at the time.
00:26:33.000 But then it's committed to record, and that's that.
00:26:36.000 So five years down the line, my opinions or views, or I'd hope my opinions and views would change in general.
00:26:42.000 Not on everything, but I think it's important to develop ideas and philosophies constantly.
00:26:47.000 So it's then that weird thing that people will have got that first record and have listened to that one phrase or thing over and over, and it's become their kind of mantra.
00:26:56.000 And then you're like, yeah, I kind of...
00:26:58.000 I'm not into that as much anymore. 1.00
00:27:00.000 I'm into this shit now. 0.99
00:27:01.000 This is what's going on now. 0.99
00:27:02.000 It's weird how that, yeah, that can be the thing that you can either give them what they need or you can't, if you know what I mean.
00:27:10.000 Right.
00:27:11.000 A natural development.
00:27:12.000 Hip-hop seems to be, in a way, a lot like stand-up comedy in that it's kind of generic in turn.
00:27:19.000 Yep.
00:27:19.000 But it's very broad in terms of content.
00:27:22.000 It's very different, right? 1.00
00:27:23.000 It's stupid. 1.00
00:27:25.000 People who say, I love comedy or I love hip-hop. 1.00
00:27:27.000 You love specific comedy and specific hip-hop. 0.99
00:27:30.000 There's loads of shit comedy. 1.00
00:27:31.000 There's loads of shit hip-hop. 1.00
00:27:32.000 There's loads of shit spoken word. 1.00
00:27:34.000 I like good... 0.99
00:27:36.000 Comedy, hip-hop, and so, you know, I've got my specifics I like.
00:27:38.000 So, yeah, it's another one that a guy I work with sometimes, Sage Francis, was saying in an interview recently, it's got to the point now where when people talk about hip-hop, you can't assume that they're talking about the same thing as him.
00:27:52.000 And again, I think it's because it's so broad.
00:27:54.000 There's such a variation in there.
00:27:56.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:27:57.000 There's a giant, broad variation.
00:28:00.000 And it's interesting.
00:28:01.000 It's like if you went to a club and it just said rock and roll, well, you'd know it'd be rock and roll.
00:28:06.000 But if you went to a club, it just said music.
00:28:08.000 Well, hip-hop is like, it's such a very specific type of music, but inside the genre, there's like a bunch of different variables, right?
00:28:15.000 Yeah, hugely.
00:28:17.000 Again, when I first started off and I was touring about and trying to get my name out there, I'd struggle to describe what I do, because...
00:28:26.000 If I said hip-hop and people instantly thought of 50 Cent, or came because of 50 Cent, or can you, it's like, you're not going to be happy with what you get.
00:28:33.000 Or equally, they might be put off because they're not into that.
00:28:36.000 And it's like, well, this might not be...
00:28:38.000 Right.
00:28:38.000 They might think that you would, you know, you would be affecting a certain type of behavior.
00:28:44.000 Exactly.
00:28:44.000 They think I'm going to speak in an American accent and be...
00:28:47.000 Are you allowed to say wigger?
00:28:48.000 Is wigger a... 1.00
00:28:50.000 Wigger. 1.00
00:28:51.000 It's okay to say wigger. 1.00
00:28:52.000 Wigger. 1.00
00:28:52.000 Wigger. 1.00
00:28:53.000 Has it become an issue?
00:28:55.000 It doesn't seem like it.
00:28:56.000 You can call someone that, and it's not like dropping an N-bomb.
00:29:00.000 Even though it sounds a lot like it, with a W, you're allowed to let it slide.
00:29:04.000 It's fine.
00:29:04.000 And don't have a heartache.
00:29:06.000 But there is that kind, and then there's what you're doing, which is a completely different thing. 0.93
00:29:11.000 You're talking, and you're making shit rhyme, but you're also making statements, and it's very entertaining, but it's a form of hip-hop.
00:29:19.000 But it's a very different form of hip-hop. 0.96
00:29:20.000 Yeah, yeah, completely.
00:29:22.000 And it's key, the entertainment part is key as well, because I think a lot of people who do the more conscious stuff, it's just like, yeah, it's a lecture.
00:29:29.000 You know what I mean?
00:29:30.000 You're kind of just being fed this, and it feels like they're trying to get across just how intelligent they are and all this.
00:29:34.000 I'm kind of, in all my stuff, it's trying to open up...
00:29:37.000 Discussion, rather than say, here's the beginning and end of this subject. 0.98
00:29:42.000 It's kind of saying, look, here's some shit that we should maybe all think about a bit more or discuss in music or culture in general more, but not trying to say, I've got all the answers, here's my shit, I think. 0.98
00:29:53.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.97
00:29:54.000 I love the fact that there's so many different genres in hip-hop now, because I think that I've always been a fan.
00:30:01.000 I'm a fan of all kinds of different...
00:30:03.000 Like, I'm a fan of your style, but I'm also a big fan of old-school ghetto boys. 1.00
00:30:08.000 Yeah, yeah, completely.
00:30:09.000 I've got a radio show in the UK. Damn, it feels good to be a gangster came on the radio the other day, and I was like, fuck! 1.00
00:30:16.000 This is the shit. 1.00
00:30:17.000 This song is the shit. 1.00
00:30:18.000 My favorite thing is when I'm in LA is because you've got radio stations that just play just old hip-hop and proper kind of hip-hop all day long. 0.99
00:30:26.000 And yeah, I don't have that in the UK. I miss Scarface.
00:30:30.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:30:30.000 Was Scarface still putting out shit? 1.00
00:30:32.000 He put out a new track like six months ago. 1.00
00:30:35.000 Damn, I need to get back into Scarface. 0.98
00:30:37.000 I forgot what a good rapper he is. 0.99
00:30:39.000 Damn, it feels good to be a gangster. 0.99
00:30:41.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:30:43.000 In that album cover where the guy's eyeball hanging out?
00:30:45.000 Yeah!
00:30:46.000 We can't be stopped.
00:30:48.000 Ghetto Boys, man. 0.53
00:30:49.000 That's Bushwick Bill. 0.87
00:30:51.000 Shot himself in the eye. 0.99
00:30:52.000 They were the craziest. 0.99
00:30:54.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:30:56.000 That was some fun fucking music, man. 1.00
00:30:58.000 My mind's playing tricks on me. 1.00
00:31:01.000 I was...
00:31:03.000 Joe, I was...
00:31:04.000 When I was in Florida for doing comedy just last weekend, there was this fetish con going on.
00:31:10.000 And so it was like Mark Maron and...
00:31:13.000 Chris Hardwick and a few of us just all hanging out at this bar watching all these freaks.
00:31:17.000 It was like being at an AVN with dominatrixes and people in gimp suits and stuff like that.
00:31:21.000 Wow.
00:31:22.000 And there was this guy that was dressed up as a woman with a face mask on, and she just stared at us and didn't move.
00:31:28.000 And the face mask had this creepy smile on it.
00:31:31.000 It was the most disturbing thing ever.
00:31:33.000 I have a photo of it somewhere.
00:31:34.000 Oh, just fetish people?
00:31:35.000 Yeah, just fetish people.
00:31:36.000 And then in Jacksonville, I went to this Burrow bar in There was a band that was about to start in the next room, and out of nowhere, this band jumps off stage and goes into the room, the bar area that we're at, and starts playing right into the crowd, jumping on the tables of the bar and stuff.
00:31:53.000 And then at the end, they caught the cymbals on fire, and the place was on fire.
00:31:58.000 It was the most intense, amazing band I've ever seen.
00:32:01.000 And it was just like a band.
00:32:02.000 I just popped into a bar and saw this They're an amazing band.
00:32:07.000 You should check out a video sometime of them.
00:32:09.000 They're a really interesting band.
00:32:11.000 But it's cool seeing live music like that.
00:32:12.000 What do they call it again?
00:32:13.000 Their name is Dak...
00:32:15.000 Hold on, I want to make sure I say this right.
00:32:17.000 Dak Sui?
00:32:19.000 Or something like that?
00:32:20.000 It's...
00:32:21.000 Spell it.
00:32:21.000 Here, I'll get it to your...
00:32:23.000 Well, to people online that are listening.
00:32:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:26.000 Here, I'll find it.
00:32:27.000 I'll find the proper spelling.
00:32:28.000 I'll be right back.
00:32:29.000 Okay.
00:32:29.000 All right.
00:32:31.000 I don't know where the fuck we were going before you just derailed the conversation. 0.96
00:32:34.000 Sorry. 0.99
00:32:35.000 It's D-A-I-K-A-J-U. And you thought that Scroobius Pip was tough. 0.86
00:32:43.000 Yeah, right? 1.00
00:32:44.000 Yeah, damn. 1.00
00:32:45.000 That's ridiculous. 0.99
00:32:45.000 And here's actually them playing outdoors, which is completely different than what you'd normally see. 0.99
00:32:51.000 But the lead singer, the guy right there in the face mask has the same mask that was at the fetish con that was just staring at us the whole time.
00:33:03.000 Wow, this is kind of wild.
00:33:29.000 If you could imagine them in a small bar and things are on fire...
00:33:33.000 Standing right in front of you with that mask.
00:33:35.000 Dude, these guys are good. 1.00
00:33:39.000 That guy's a bad motherfucker. 1.00
00:34:16.000 Imagine... 1.00
00:34:16.000 Imagine if you couldn't hear, and you didn't hear sound, and you were trying to figure out what the fuck... 1.00
00:34:23.000 Make this totally silent. 0.97
00:34:25.000 Imagine if you didn't hear sound, and you see all this moving around, and see all these people staring at these guys just playing with these sticks in their hands. 0.98
00:34:34.000 You'd be like, what the fuck is going on on that stage? 0.94
00:34:39.000 Why is everybody watching that? 0.98
00:34:41.000 It's a weird gig, man.
00:34:44.000 You're creating cool sounds with a stick.
00:34:46.000 And you get this big piece of wood, and you're creating wild sounds with it.
00:34:50.000 That's really interesting.
00:34:51.000 Here's how I saw them.
00:35:00.000 They're just walking around the whole entire bar.
00:35:03.000 Wireless.
00:35:04.000 And they could be different guys. 0.99
00:35:06.000 These guys get cocky, they fucking put a mask on a new dude, fire him. 0.99
00:35:10.000 That's perfect. 0.99
00:35:11.000 And it's good to see that he's learned and moved up to wireless, because clearly the cord was restricting him in the first one as he wanted to go and run around.
00:35:20.000 Here's him on top of the bar. 0.99
00:35:22.000 He was like doing this shit. 1.00
00:35:23.000 That's cool. 1.00
00:35:23.000 One part he was like just leaning on, like sitting on my lap for the most part. 1.00
00:35:34.000 That's wild.
00:35:35.000 Yeah.
00:35:35.000 So check them out.
00:35:36.000 So they don't sing? 1.00
00:35:37.000 No, they just jam like fucking crazy, dude. 1.00
00:35:40.000 That's wild. 0.99
00:35:40.000 Like Hendrix style almost. 0.99
00:35:42.000 That's wild.
00:35:42.000 Yeah, so their name is D-A-I-K-A-I-J-U. I like that, man.
00:35:49.000 I like that idea.
00:35:50.000 That's pretty cool.
00:35:51.000 I love that they've got a harder name than me.
00:35:54.000 That's right.
00:35:54.000 Even though you spell it out twice now, I have no idea what their name is.
00:35:57.000 Hey man, Arnold Schwarzenegger is the good fallback.
00:36:00.000 It doesn't matter. 0.99
00:36:01.000 It doesn't mean shit. 0.99
00:36:02.000 It doesn't mean shit. 0.99
00:36:03.000 Bert Bacharach. 0.99
00:36:05.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:36:05.000 Crazy name, motherfuckers. 1.00
00:36:07.000 Yeah, it's a weird thing, isn't it? 1.00
00:36:09.000 Like, the names.
00:36:10.000 It's important to write the right letters and words.
00:36:14.000 I can never tell if it's...
00:36:16.000 Like, if The Doors is a good name or it's a good name because of The Doors.
00:36:20.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:36:21.000 Right.
00:36:22.000 If you were at some shitty gig in the local band and The Doors never happened and they were called The Doors, it probably wouldn't be as awesome as it is, right?
00:36:28.000 No.
00:36:29.000 Isn't it fascinating, though?
00:36:31.000 The names are about picking a pleasant sound that you can remember.
00:36:36.000 Yeah.
00:36:36.000 Yeah.
00:36:40.000 Yeah.
00:36:49.000 Yeah.
00:36:55.000 Yeah.
00:36:55.000 Whatever it is you've chosen.
00:36:57.000 Yeah, right.
00:36:58.000 Restricted.
00:36:58.000 Yeah, especially if you...
00:37:00.000 And what is...
00:37:00.000 How does it work when you hear bands have the same name as other bands?
00:37:04.000 I never know.
00:37:05.000 I guess someone has to argue it.
00:37:07.000 You know, like the Love Assassins.
00:37:09.000 Like, this must be like more than one Love Assassins.
00:37:12.000 The original Love Assassins.
00:37:13.000 You know, I mean, I just need that name up, but I'm sure it exists.
00:37:16.000 I'm not the first person to think that way, right?
00:37:19.000 That's a path.
00:37:20.000 That's like looking at a section of street and trying to imagine that no one ever walked down that.
00:37:25.000 It's impossible.
00:37:26.000 Somebody walked down that.
00:37:27.000 I might not have seen it, but it's happened.
00:37:29.000 So, like, how many different guys can come up with something like the Love Assassins?
00:37:33.000 You know?
00:37:34.000 You've just got to become the biggest love assassins out there, and then you've won, right? 1.00
00:37:39.000 Yeah, you've got to be the bad motherfucker. 1.00
00:37:39.000 If you're the biggest ones, then you're who the love assassins are. 1.00
00:37:43.000 Like, do you think there was another Kiss?
00:37:45.000 You know, like, Kiss seems like...
00:37:46.000 Seems like there's got to have been...
00:37:47.000 Had to have been.
00:37:48.000 At least one other band thought about becoming the name Kiss.
00:37:51.000 So probably if somebody's kind of retired or not as popular now, you could just be like, hey, no, my name's NWA now.
00:37:57.000 And just because you're more popular, you kind of would win at that argument, right?
00:38:02.000 I don't know, man.
00:38:02.000 I think that's probably trademarked because it's such a huge business.
00:38:06.000 But I think when you're first coming up and you don't have any legal paperwork, that's when it's only an issue. 1.00
00:38:12.000 Because if you try to be Jimi Hendrix today, they'd be like, shut the fuck up, bitch. 1.00
00:38:15.000 I ain't Jimi Hendrix. 1.00
00:38:15.000 But no, my new name is Jimi Hendrix. 1.00
00:38:18.000 I'm Jimi Hendrix.
00:38:19.000 But they would be like, no, Jimi Hendrix.
00:38:21.000 You can't be a musician and be Jimi Hendrix. 1.00
00:38:23.000 There's a copyright on that shit. 0.99
00:38:25.000 But I could be Milli Vanilli. 0.99
00:38:27.000 Well, no one wants to be, so I bet they would just let you.
00:38:30.000 Yeah, if you tried to be Milli Vanilli.
00:38:32.000 But I bet not. 1.00
00:38:33.000 I bet someone owns that shit. 1.00
00:38:35.000 Say if you and Jamie decided to go on tour as Milli and Vanilli, and you would lip-sync, and other people would sing the songs, you'd get your ass sued. 1.00
00:38:43.000 Yeah? 0.99
00:38:44.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:38:45.000 What if you only did the Vanilli part?
00:38:47.000 Yeah.
00:38:48.000 Even Vanilli.
00:38:49.000 They probably own Millie and Vanilli.
00:38:51.000 They own both of those.
00:38:52.000 Yeah.
00:38:53.000 Yeah, they own it.
00:38:54.000 Don't you think they own it?
00:38:55.000 Rick Ross.
00:38:56.000 Well, Rick Ross is different because Rick Ross, the original Rick Ross, was not a rapper.
00:39:00.000 I mean, that's the whole reason why he has those t-shirts that say Rick Ross is not a rapper.
00:39:04.000 He was just unsigned.
00:39:05.000 He rapped all the time in the shower, I bet.
00:39:09.000 Christmas time he was rapping? 0.52
00:39:10.000 Well, he was a notorious drug dealer and a genuine nice guy.
00:39:15.000 I really like Rick Ross.
00:39:16.000 He's a cool guy.
00:39:17.000 He's got a book out now, by the way.
00:39:18.000 If anybody's interested, Rick has a brand new book and people have been asking us to get him on the podcast again and we definitely should.
00:39:28.000 Rick Ross book.
00:39:31.000 Just give him a plug. 1.00
00:39:33.000 The real Rick Ross.
00:39:35.000 Freeway Rick Ross.
00:39:36.000 The Untold Autobiography?
00:39:38.000 Yeah, The Untold Autobiography.
00:39:40.000 That's what it's called.
00:39:42.000 And he's got a fascinating story, if you're interested.
00:39:46.000 His story is, he was the connection between the Iran-Contra affair and selling drugs in Los Angeles.
00:39:53.000 He was one of the connections.
00:39:55.000 He was being supplied by a guy who was channeling that money that he made from Rick Ross directly into foreign operations.
00:40:05.000 It's crazy.
00:40:06.000 The whole story is crazy. 0.97
00:40:07.000 And the dude, when he went to jail, didn't even know how to read, okay, and in jail, taught himself how to read, then became a fucking legal expert and found the loopholes in his prosecution where they fucked up, found holes in the prosecution's angle, 0.96
00:40:24.000 and got himself off, got himself out. 0.85
00:40:30.000 They had him in like a three-strike situation and he got out of that because it has to be three sentences.
00:40:36.000 It can't be three crimes.
00:40:37.000 It has to be three sentences.
00:40:38.000 And so they prosecuted him for it illegally.
00:40:43.000 It was incorrect use of the prosecution.
00:40:44.000 It's kind of weird though then that...
00:40:47.000 He wouldn't have educated himself or potentially wouldn't have educated himself in such a manner if he hadn't been put away.
00:40:53.000 So it's kind of...
00:40:54.000 It's odd to come out of that with, you know, improved and better and yeah.
00:40:59.000 Yeah, it is a fascinating case.
00:41:00.000 It's a very fascinating case and he's a very good guy.
00:41:02.000 And then after, you know, put up with Rick Ross using your name and...
00:41:06.000 Yeah, well, he sued him and lost, which is really crazy.
00:41:10.000 I mean, when we'll have him on, I'm sure he'll be able to tell us.
00:41:12.000 I don't know if they're continuing the lawsuit.
00:41:15.000 Well, maybe we could Google it right now.
00:41:17.000 It's a weird one with that because it's more of a regular name.
00:41:21.000 It's a Jimi Hendrix.
00:41:24.000 You're not going to hear that every day.
00:41:25.000 But Rick Ross, it feels like it'd be a tougher one to sue over because, yeah, I don't know.
00:41:31.000 Yeah, Rick Ross wins lawsuit against Freeway Rick Ross.
00:41:35.000 Wow.
00:41:37.000 Freeway Rick Ross lost his lawsuit against rapper Rick Ross, born William Leonard Roberts on First Amendment grounds.
00:41:44.000 The case...
00:41:45.000 Wow, First Amendment grounds.
00:41:47.000 Freedom of speech.
00:41:47.000 So I guess you're allowed to take on the persona of a known drug dealer because it's like...
00:41:54.000 It's a persona?
00:41:56.000 So it's like artistic expression?
00:41:58.000 I mean, what is that? 0.99
00:41:59.000 It's like Bonnie and Clyde shit, you know? 0.99
00:42:00.000 I could probably call myself Bonnie and Clyde. 0.99
00:42:02.000 Yeah, but if they were alive, would you be able to, you know?
00:42:06.000 Yeah.
00:42:07.000 But the full name, Rick Ross?
00:42:09.000 The real Rick Ross knew about the entertainer's stage name since 2006. Oh!
00:42:16.000 The case originally began in 2010 and later appealed to a higher court after the lawsuit was ruled untimely since the real Rick Ross knew about the entertainer's stage name since 2006. So the idea was that the first time it was ruled untimely because he didn't act quick enough.
00:42:33.000 Yeah.
00:42:34.000 But I think that there was some issues, the real Rick Ross said, where he had talked to Rick Ross and he was going to be compensated for it.
00:42:45.000 Right.
00:42:45.000 And then, remember he said he was going to chop it up with him?
00:42:48.000 Remember that?
00:42:49.000 He said, we'll chop it up, we'll chop it up.
00:42:51.000 He was going to give him some money.
00:42:53.000 And then he decided not to.
00:42:54.000 And then he decided to go to lawsuits with him. 0.99
00:42:56.000 So I'm fucking... 0.99
00:42:58.000 Shady Pistons. 0.97
00:42:59.000 Explain why he took time over it and why he got around to that, but yeah.
00:43:04.000 And now that is a very different sort of a hip-hop.
00:43:08.000 Yeah, yeah, completely.
00:43:09.000 But again, it's a hip-hop I love as well.
00:43:12.000 It's that mistake that people think that just because I do a certain kind of hip-hop that I think every kind of hip-hop should be like that.
00:43:20.000 It'd be boring as hell if all hip-hop was like that.
00:43:23.000 You have to have the variation in the genre and Yeah.
00:43:26.000 How much do you think the real Rick Ross should get paid by the fake Rick Ross?
00:43:31.000 Like, if you were the judge?
00:43:33.000 Half.
00:43:33.000 Depends how much the real Rick Ross...
00:43:34.000 Half! 0.99
00:43:34.000 Holy shit! 0.99
00:43:35.000 That's crazy! 1.00
00:43:36.000 That's like being married to a dude.
00:43:39.000 That's too much.
00:43:41.000 Maybe 10%, though.
00:43:42.000 10% might not be a bad number. 0.98
00:43:43.000 I'd say 10%, it seems fair.
00:43:45.000 Look, you don't even have to rap.
00:43:47.000 He lets that dude use his name.
00:43:48.000 That dude makes him more popular.
00:43:50.000 Here's the thing about the real Rick Ross...
00:43:51.000 I was being emotional.
00:43:53.000 Sweet.
00:43:53.000 You're a sweet guy.
00:43:54.000 I like that a lot about you.
00:43:55.000 But here's the thing about, like, think about the real Rick Ross.
00:44:00.000 Like, we know about the real Rick Ross because his story is fascinating, and we've talked to him, and he's an interesting guy. 0.87
00:44:05.000 But we also know about the real Rick Ross because the fake Rick Ross got famous as fuck with the same name. 0.95
00:44:11.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:44:11.000 So how much would you know about Rick Ross if he wasn't getting fucked over by the fake Rick Ross? 0.99
00:44:16.000 I submit not nearly as much. 0.97
00:44:18.000 I submit that quite honestly, the real Rick Ross has benefited substantially from the fake Rick Ross using his name. 0.99
00:44:26.000 And it actually makes him even more legit because this fake fat rapper who used to be a corrections officer is using his shit. 0.97
00:44:35.000 I think the table has kind of changed a little since the fake Rick Ross has now become who he is. 0.99
00:44:42.000 He's like, you know, big.
00:44:43.000 He is now a huge moneymaker.
00:44:46.000 So now 10% I think is completely fair and everyone should just be happy and have dinner together and maybe go on tour together.
00:44:53.000 But the real Rick Ross, the original drug dealer Rick Ross, is benefiting substantially, publicity-wise, to being connected with this.
00:45:02.000 I mean, he has an amazing story on his own, but the reality is that this story is made more compelling by the fact that there's a guy running around stealing his name.
00:45:11.000 He's benefited from it.
00:45:13.000 It's really crazy when you think about it.
00:45:16.000 I wonder if what the cool thinking of the time of it was, that When he probably first heard of this rapper Rick Ross, he probably didn't think it was that huge a deal.
00:45:28.000 Right.
00:45:28.000 But then when Rick Ross becomes one of the biggest rappers in the world, then suddenly that's a change.
00:45:35.000 Do you think that's part of it?
00:45:36.000 Or would he always have been trying to fight the...
00:45:38.000 I think he always, you know, even when he came out of jail, Rick Ross was famous.
00:45:43.000 He just wasn't as famous as he is now.
00:45:46.000 He's become really super famous.
00:45:48.000 His book, I'm sure, wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't for the fake Rick Ross.
00:45:52.000 Well, the story is amazing.
00:45:54.000 The story itself is amazing.
00:45:56.000 I mean, he was a tennis standout in high school.
00:45:59.000 Couldn't go to college because he couldn't read. 0.97
00:46:01.000 So he was an athlete and was like stranded in this terrible neighborhood, didn't know what the fuck to do. 0.98
00:46:07.000 So he started selling drugs and became this giant drug dealer. 0.97
00:46:10.000 He was making like some insane amounts of money, millions of dollars a week. 1.00
00:46:15.000 I mean, he was just making just stupid money. 0.99
00:46:18.000 And it was all being funneled to the United States, all these covert operations overseas in Nicaragua. 1.00
00:46:26.000 It's crazy. 0.99
00:46:26.000 I mean, it was the whole Oliver, the whole Reagan Contra affair, and what the fuck's his name? 0.99
00:46:34.000 Oliver, what's his name? 0.98
00:46:36.000 Stone?
00:46:36.000 No.
00:46:38.000 Oliver North.
00:46:39.000 Thank you. 0.99
00:46:40.000 The Oliver North situation, these guys on trial in front of the fucking entire country. 1.00
00:46:44.000 No one's ever seen that shit before. 1.00
00:46:46.000 You know, and Reagan, they're asking him if he sold arms to other countries and shit. 0.99
00:46:52.000 This was all, like, part of that same era. 0.98
00:46:56.000 You know, the same era of all this crazy shit going on that we're finding out the government's involved with. 0.97
00:47:00.000 And one of the things was selling drugs in the Los Angeles neighborhoods, the poor neighborhoods, and taking that money like the CIA was selling drugs. 0.99
00:47:10.000 And our late, great friend, Michael Rupert, who passed away recently, Michael Rupert, who was a narcotics investigator for the Los Angeles Police Department, he uncovered that shit. 0.79
00:47:20.000 They did that thing where he stood out in front of that press conference, they have this press conference, and he yells out, like, in the middle of this conference, that he knows that the CIA has been selling drugs in Los Angeles communities, 0.86
00:47:37.000 and that he's caught them.
00:47:38.000 I mean, this guy says this on television. 0.92
00:47:41.000 And the whole crowd filled with black people. 0.54
00:47:44.000 They start cheering. 0.90
00:47:45.000 They're all excited about it. 1.00
00:47:47.000 And it's like he's just standing up and like, what a fucking crazy prick he was. 1.00
00:47:52.000 Yeah, we've been following the latest, you know, with the Anonymous and the whole shooting of that kid. 1.00
00:47:58.000 Oh, that kid in St. Louis?
00:47:59.000 Yeah. 0.97
00:48:00.000 That's ugly, man.
00:48:01.000 That's ugly. 0.99
00:48:02.000 The kid in St. Louis is ugly, and there was the other kid in the Walmart that had the fake gun. 0.98
00:48:07.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:48:08.000 Just like, what the fuck is going on, man? 0.99
00:48:11.000 You know, there's an old expression, but it's a really valid one, is that when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. 0.99
00:48:19.000 Yeah.
00:48:20.000 Yeah.
00:48:20.000 And that's the problem with this society that we have, when people, you know, you give them guns and you put them in situations where if they make a bad call, someone dies.
00:48:31.000 Yeah.
00:48:32.000 If they make a bad call, if they freak out, someone dies.
00:48:36.000 It's a huge difference to have that there, have that on you as an option.
00:48:41.000 But it's also like, I don't know what the options are, because if you take their guns away from them, Yeah.
00:48:55.000 Yeah.
00:48:56.000 Yeah.
00:49:04.000 There's always going to be people that keep illegal guns if anybody tries to do that.
00:49:07.000 And they'll be doing it with, in their mind, the full approval of the Constitution.
00:49:14.000 The full approval of the Second Amendment. 0.52
00:49:15.000 What happened in Australia?
00:49:16.000 Like when they've got rid of, changed all their gun laws and got rid of guns and it was seen as it couldn't work.
00:49:23.000 They've not really had any incidents since.
00:49:26.000 They've changed their gun laws because they used to be exactly the same as America. 0.73
00:49:29.000 I don't know all the statistics on it, but they used to be the same as America.
00:49:32.000 And then they had one really bad major shooting.
00:49:38.000 And they changed their gun laws as a trial thing, I think, in this particular state or area.
00:49:45.000 Mm-hmm.
00:49:46.000 It's maintained and it's worked.
00:49:49.000 Again, they had all the same thing of people saying, you can't take people's guns away.
00:49:54.000 And they did have people protesting and against it.
00:49:57.000 But then a year on, kind of everyone's...
00:49:59.000 The problem is, I think you trust your government a lot more than we trust ours.
00:50:04.000 Because our government likes starting wars. 0.61
00:50:08.000 And our government has a history of not being honest with us.
00:50:12.000 Our government has a history of trying to suppress us.
00:50:15.000 And particularly, I mean, it seems for every, on a yearly basis, for every huge story there is of a member of the public going out and killing people, doing a shooting, there's then a police story of it as well.
00:50:27.000 So it kind of fuels them both.
00:50:29.000 I was tweeting.
00:50:30.000 That whole thing of, well, if we don't trust the police, then we need to be armed.
00:50:35.000 And the police, exactly the same as you've said, if they're policing an area where everyone's got guns, it's kind of...
00:50:40.000 Yeah.
00:50:40.000 People need to come to an agreement and that's not going to happen.
00:50:43.000 Well, it's also a problem whenever you have a group of people that become sort of responsible for the actions of an individual, right? 0.99
00:50:50.000 If you have 100 cops and one cop does something really fucked up, then cops are pigs. 0.98
00:50:55.000 And all these other cops get lumped into this one group. 0.99
00:50:59.000 Instead of it being an individual that was in a position of power that did something fucked up, it's the cops. 0.89
00:51:04.000 So then it's the cops versus the people. 0.98
00:51:06.000 And that's madness.
00:51:07.000 That's all madness. 1.00
00:51:08.000 The guy who shot that kid for sure is a piece of shit. 1.00
00:51:13.000 He fucked up. 1.00
00:51:13.000 That's not saying that cops in general... 1.00
00:51:14.000 Yeah, it doesn't mean...
00:51:15.000 I mean, who knows what's going on through this guy's head.
00:51:17.000 The other thing about these guys, a lot of them have PTSD. Yeah.
00:51:21.000 You talk about PTSD for people that go away and they fight in wars and they come back.
00:51:26.000 Well, a lot of those guys that do that become cops, first of all.
00:51:29.000 When they come back, it's a good gig for a soldier. 1.00
00:51:31.000 You're already used to being in the shit. 0.99
00:51:33.000 It's probably mild in comparison to what you've seen. 1.00
00:51:35.000 And you can probably handle stress better than the average person.
00:51:38.000 If you're looking for a gig, it's probably a good gig.
00:51:40.000 But it's going to make you more comfortable pulling your...
00:51:43.000 You can as well, right?
00:51:44.000 That's true, too.
00:51:45.000 And, you know, you also used to, I mean, especially if you had to have active, you've actually been in combat.
00:51:51.000 You know, if you've been in combat, you've definitely shot people.
00:51:54.000 If you definitely shot people, it'd be easier to shoot somebody again.
00:51:56.000 And you also probably, your senses, your whole sense of, like, what's on the line would probably be much easier. 0.85
00:52:03.000 Much more, like, sharp than a person that's never seen people killed.
00:52:07.000 Like, you're like, this could happen in any second.
00:52:10.000 You better stop this before it happens. 0.99
00:52:11.000 You have, like, a much shorter, like, line of bullshit that you'll tolerate. 0.99
00:52:16.000 And that's, you know, that's... 0.99
00:52:17.000 If you're in a war zone, that's to be expected.
00:52:19.000 But that...
00:52:20.000 Warzone becomes the streets if you have the same attitude, but it's just going to happen that way.
00:52:26.000 When you have people and they hate each other and there's a group here and a group there, the cops and the citizens, and you have a situation like this, things will be flared up for years now.
00:52:35.000 It's annoying how it has to be such a group thing and these people against these people.
00:52:40.000 There was a song out about two years ago now, just before all the Trayvon and Martin stuff happened.
00:52:46.000 And it was called Film the Police. 0.99
00:52:49.000 And it was a rewrite of NWA, Fuck the Police. 0.99
00:52:51.000 And it was just calling everyone to... 0.99
00:52:53.000 Like, we've all got phones now.
00:52:54.000 It's saying, the police are policing us, but there's issues.
00:52:58.000 So rather than being less... 0.99
00:53:00.000 Rather than being a fuck the police, being... 0.99
00:53:02.000 Just make sure you're filming stuff. 0.99
00:53:04.000 And there was just a huge backlash from people in support of the police saying, no, this isn't fair.
00:53:08.000 And it's like, well... 0.99
00:53:09.000 It's not saying that film the police and catch them all up to shit. 0.99
00:53:14.000 It's like the good ones won't be doing anything bad. 0.98
00:53:16.000 So it's not a negative thing, you know.
00:53:20.000 But if you're using more a watching the Watchmen, as it were, kind of thing, then it starts to then police itself and hopefully...
00:53:28.000 I don't think there's anything wrong with the idea of filming police.
00:53:32.000 No.
00:53:32.000 And I think there's also a lot of evidence that when police are forced to wear cameras, they film all their actions.
00:53:37.000 There's the thing about the...
00:53:39.000 Yeah, the allegations of abuse dropped by 80%.
00:53:42.000 Yeah.
00:53:43.000 And someone actually said this.
00:53:45.000 Yeah, it's because people can't claim fake abuse now.
00:53:48.000 Somebody actually said it to me on Twitter. 0.99
00:53:49.000 I'm like, or cops know that they can't fucking do douchey shit because they're wearing a camera. 0.99
00:53:55.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:53:55.000 Yeah, it's great. 0.99
00:53:56.000 Again, I mean...
00:53:57.000 Cops are people.
00:53:57.000 There's good ones and bad ones.
00:53:58.000 Completely.
00:53:59.000 In the UK, you realise now that there was a time when the cops were the best of the best.
00:54:05.000 But that's not the case anymore.
00:54:07.000 There's a variation.
00:54:08.000 There's some people who are genuinely good citizens trying to make this change.
00:54:12.000 But I knew people who...
00:54:14.000 Who worked with me in the record store and didn't get kept on and became a policeman instead.
00:54:20.000 You couldn't do retail and now you're policing the streets kind of thing.
00:54:25.000 That's crazy.
00:54:26.000 That's not the best of the best that it should or was.
00:54:29.000 Being police should be like being the night's watch.
00:54:32.000 It should really be like you're the guy who's guarding the top of the...
00:54:37.000 Yeah.
00:54:37.000 I mean, that's really what it should be like.
00:54:39.000 It should be a revered position of noble people, you know, martial artists, people who are, you know, they actually want to do good, have a code and an ethic.
00:54:48.000 It's the same with politicians, though. 0.99
00:54:50.000 Like, we all complain about how all the politicians are kind of scumbags. 0.99
00:54:54.000 It's like, because it's not an appealing job. 1.00
00:54:56.000 Like, normal people like us wouldn't, it's not appealing being a fucking politician. 0.96
00:54:59.000 Could you imagine you had to be the mayor or something? 0.99
00:55:02.000 They said, Pip, it's your time.
00:55:03.000 It's the Worst nightmare.
00:55:05.000 Imagine if that was like the draft. 1.00
00:55:06.000 Like you just get drafted to be the fucking mayor. 1.00
00:55:09.000 Like out of nowhere. 1.00
00:55:10.000 We like your lyrics.
00:55:12.000 You're going to be the mayor now.
00:55:12.000 You're like, what?
00:55:13.000 And they fucking show up at your door with accountants. 0.99
00:55:15.000 You got to go over the budget. 0.99
00:55:17.000 Like how much you want to spend on vacation?
00:55:18.000 What?
00:55:19.000 How much you want to spend on the government?
00:55:20.000 What?
00:55:21.000 It's crazy.
00:55:22.000 How much do you want to spend on sewage?
00:55:23.000 What?
00:55:23.000 Spend on sewage?
00:55:24.000 Yeah, we got a water bill.
00:55:25.000 We owe Colorado.
00:55:26.000 What? 1.00
00:55:27.000 Yeah, fuck all that, man. 1.00
00:55:29.000 And that's the problem, because everybody says fuck all that. 1.00
00:55:31.000 And the only people that don't say fuck all that are the ones who can make some money from it or can be... 0.99
00:55:36.000 Or hopefully are really dedicated to trying to help people. 0.98
00:55:40.000 You hope. 0.99
00:55:41.000 But good fucking luck. 0.99
00:55:42.000 Good luck with all that. 0.99
00:55:45.000 Especially in this day and age.
00:55:46.000 We're going to need some dust to settle.
00:55:48.000 It's a mess.
00:55:49.000 I mean, it's just with the whole politics thing, you need...
00:55:52.000 I don't know.
00:55:53.000 I kind of argue with people online about this all the time because I think the way your democracy is currently set up and our democracy is currently set up, there's no chance of any real change anytime soon because it's a gradual, slight change is either way, but nothing else is discussed.
00:56:09.000 We need to protect the ideals of democracy and it's like, well...
00:56:14.000 Why?
00:56:14.000 Yeah.
00:56:15.000 I think there's, I mean, there's, I'm going completely off on tangent now, but there's hundreds of different kinds ofocracy and kinds of ways to run a society.
00:56:25.000 Number one, our democracies we've got aren't real democracies.
00:56:28.000 Right.
00:56:28.000 They're kind of, it's the two-party system and all this kind of thing, so it's not a real, we just vote and that's who gets in.
00:56:34.000 And they're often being funded by the same companies.
00:56:36.000 Yeah.
00:56:36.000 Exactly, it's the same thing.
00:56:37.000 Incredibly ridiculous.
00:56:38.000 There's loads of, I mean, I was just discussing recently, and it pisses people off because it kind of shows a level of elitism that people are scared of, but I think going on stuff based on a meritocracy and stuff like that, where, say, your vote would be worth more than the guy who's sitting at home in a trailer and doesn't know anything about politics. 0.82
00:56:59.000 But isn't that dangerous, though?
00:57:01.000 That's kind of dangerous when one person's vote is worth more than another person's vote.
00:57:04.000 But it depends how it's measured.
00:57:06.000 So, for example, my theory on it being, if when you go to vote, there's a short questionnaire on politics or on social or on society or something, and that ranks...
00:57:17.000 At what you're worth.
00:57:18.000 But isn't that subjective?
00:57:19.000 I mean, first of all, there's just information.
00:57:22.000 Like, you could have information about politics.
00:57:23.000 That's one thing.
00:57:24.000 Like, you know, when was Eleanor Roosevelt this?
00:57:27.000 When was...
00:57:27.000 Or more on policies.
00:57:28.000 On policies and on what's actually valid at the moment.
00:57:31.000 Because then, even if people...
00:57:43.000 That's a good point.
00:57:50.000 Yeah, maybe I'm hanging on to the idea that everyone should have an equal vote and that it shouldn't be like an earned thing, and you earn it by having an education about the system.
00:58:00.000 It's actually not a bad idea.
00:58:02.000 There's a great quote that says, we're not all entitled to our own opinion, we're all entitled to our own informed opinion.
00:58:08.000 Because again, everyone quotes that thing of, I'm entitled to my own opinion.
00:58:11.000 It's like, well, no, if someone's done more research on it and knows about it, then There is right and wrong.
00:58:18.000 You can't just argue, well, that's my opinion.
00:58:21.000 I'm entitled to it.
00:58:22.000 In some issues, yeah.
00:58:23.000 There's some issues where it's not.
00:58:25.000 There's some issues where it's just a subjective judgment.
00:58:27.000 One person would agree, one person would disagree.
00:58:30.000 There's certain issues that people are very, very passionate about that You have polar opposite people absolutely dedicated to their opinion and won't budge.
00:58:37.000 Like abortion. 0.52
00:58:38.000 And that's a great thing, but then it's an informed opinion.
00:58:40.000 It's not just a kind of...
00:58:41.000 Sometimes not even though.
00:58:44.000 Sometimes there's not an informed opinion.
00:58:46.000 Sometimes people just get on a side and that's their side. 1.00
00:58:51.000 So stupid. 1.00
00:58:52.000 It's crazy. 1.00
00:58:53.000 But that's people.
00:58:55.000 That's a super common thing.
00:58:56.000 That's a super common thing to take on Republican talking points or take on liberal talking points.
00:59:02.000 Really common.
00:59:04.000 Or the Bible's the key example of that, where people are just blindly, well, that's my belief, and therefore I will fight any arguments against it, despite any logic and theories and reality.
00:59:17.000 Yeah, that's a big one.
00:59:19.000 That's a common one because, you know, that's one that has been used for so many years by so many people and it's become just a well-paved path that everybody can walk on.
00:59:30.000 It's a great structure and set up.
00:59:33.000 Our first song that got big, like when I was working with a guy, Daniel Sack, I'm not religious, but the reason I think it hit through with people is it's a simple structure that you all know and are familiar with.
00:59:51.000 And that's why it works for religion as well as in a spoken word hip-hop song.
00:59:56.000 It's that simplicity of you know the stories and the structures.
01:00:00.000 Therefore, you can get a point across that isn't about a religion, but by using those, that's more about society and people, but using that template of what religion people have laid down for us.
01:00:14.000 Yeah, what religious people have laid down and, you know, the variance in, like, how much they vary from one to the next, like, how much Judaism varies from Islam, varies from Christianity, how much they borrow from each other.
01:00:26.000 Like, somebody's wrong.
01:00:27.000 Somebody's wrong.
01:00:28.000 Well, let's just break down, like, what you guys are actually, what are we supporting here?
01:00:32.000 Are we supporting the idea That there's a guy, and this guy watches over everything, and he made everything.
01:00:38.000 He's allowing all this crazy chaos.
01:00:39.000 And he told us once, a few thousand years ago, how to live your life. 0.99
01:00:43.000 And if you don't pay attention to what the fuck he said back then, you're on your own. 0.99
01:00:47.000 And so you're forced to be led by a bunch of people. 0.99
01:00:50.000 He sees these people. 0.99
01:00:52.000 He sees their hypocritical actions. 0.97
01:00:53.000 He does nothing. 1.00
01:00:53.000 He allows them to distort his message and relay it in his most fucked up way that's ruining the earth itself. 1.00
01:00:59.000 And still, he doesn't come down and correct anybody. 0.97
01:01:02.000 Like, this is what you're saying?
01:01:03.000 Yeah.
01:01:04.000 It's crazy.
01:01:04.000 Are you sure?
01:01:05.000 Or is this puzzle far too complex for our brains?
01:01:09.000 Is this like an ant trying to understand a satellite?
01:01:12.000 Because if you try to get an ant to understand a satellite, it's outside of his realm of comprehension.
01:01:17.000 And I think we have a realm of comprehension whether we like to admit it or not.
01:01:21.000 And I think the very nature of the universe itself is currently outside of our realm of comprehension.
01:01:28.000 Or at least the realm of comprehension of the average person, me included.
01:01:32.000 But...
01:01:32.000 Faith has got to be the most, not dangerous word ever made, but that's the thing.
01:01:38.000 The argument would always be, well, we were left here and we've got to have faith that God's going to do this and do that, and it's all tests, but I've got my faith.
01:01:47.000 That's a massive get-out clause for any argument.
01:01:50.000 Well, you can't see this person, you can't prove it. 0.99
01:01:54.000 Well, not only can you not prove it, but you're having faith in something that It looks very much like bullshit. 0.98
01:02:01.000 If you look at the stories, a guy came back from the dead, he was dead for three days, and then he pushed a rock aside and came back. 0.99
01:02:07.000 Okay.
01:02:09.000 Alright, I believe that. 0.98
01:02:10.000 Okay, this is Adam and Eve, so there's two people, and then they fuck, and what happens? 0.98
01:02:13.000 They have kids, and then... 0.99
01:02:14.000 It's time, though, right?
01:02:16.000 It's time that allows that to be accepted.
01:02:18.000 Because everyone kind of jokes now and mocks Scientology because of the ludicrousness of loads of... 0.92
01:02:36.000 Well, people don't even admit Christianity is ludicrous.
01:02:39.000 If you have conversations with hardcore Christians about whether or not Christianity is ludicrous, they'll argue with you about why it's not, and what these stories really represent, and how the message of God comes through these stories. 0.64
01:02:50.000 I think it's crazy that there's such a mixture as well in there. 0.98
01:02:53.000 There will be loads of Christians that know that all that stuff is kind of bullshit, but they believe what they believe and they believe they're... 0.99
01:03:00.000 Do you know what I mean? 0.99
01:03:01.000 That they're just stories and all this kind of thing.
01:03:03.000 So it's...
01:03:04.000 Well, there's all sorts of levels, right?
01:03:05.000 Within your own belief system, there's such a variation. 0.98
01:03:09.000 There's people who would sit here now and go, yeah, that's fucking crazy, but they're devout Christians and... 0.98
01:03:15.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:03:15.000 There's people that just believe in God and they feel like the Bible is sort of a framework for good behavior that was laid down by this holy entity at one point in the past. 0.98
01:03:25.000 And that although the stories have been twisted and weird and, you know, that a lot of these stories, they probably represented something.
01:03:34.000 Something important a long time ago.
01:03:36.000 And so you're getting this connection to God through a game of telephone.
01:03:42.000 I don't know if you've played it in England.
01:03:44.000 But you would tell a friend something, and then he would tell a friend something, and then he would tell a friend something. 0.99
01:03:48.000 By the time it got down to Brian, the story was dog shit. 1.00
01:03:52.000 It was all fucked up. 1.00
01:03:53.000 And I think that the idea is that... 0.99
01:03:56.000 In the UK, it was called Chinese Whispers, which sounds incredibly racist.
01:04:01.000 LAUGHTER But that's what it was.
01:04:03.000 It was called Chinese Whispers.
01:04:04.000 It wasn't...
01:04:04.000 That's that game.
01:04:05.000 Anyway, Telephone's a far better name for it.
01:04:08.000 Let's stick with that.
01:04:09.000 But that whole idea is that at the end of that is God.
01:04:12.000 At the end of that is God. 0.99
01:04:13.000 Yeah, the story got fucked up. 0.99
01:04:15.000 But the story did get fucked up. 0.99
01:04:18.000 But that story has a direct connection to God. 0.93
01:04:21.000 And the way that direct connection works is that at one point in time, there was...
01:04:25.000 There was something where someone was explained the very nature of the universe.
01:04:32.000 And then, whether it was through psychedelic drugs, whether it was through an actual religious experience with a divine entity, and then from that point, what happened is that person told another person, that person told another person, they did their best to remember everything that the people before them told them. 0.99
01:04:48.000 But if you got through all that goofy shit, all that Adam and Eve stuff, and all that fucking... 0.92
01:04:53.000 The more weird and ridiculous and preposterous stories in any religion, if you got through all that and went back to the source, you almost are still connected in some sort of a weird, bizarre, and maybe like a... 0.99
01:05:11.000 Like, almost like a mathematical way, you're connected to the original story. 0.95
01:05:17.000 You know, there's the original story, the original story turns into this, his memory fucks it up, it turns into that.
01:05:22.000 Like, is it correct at the end?
01:05:23.000 No.
01:05:23.000 Just in the translations as well, though.
01:05:25.000 It was all written in a language that is dead, and people re-translate and change and things like that, and it's like, well...
01:05:32.000 Well, there's two of them, too.
01:05:33.000 So far away from...
01:05:35.000 The oldest version that they found is the stuff that's in Qumran.
01:05:39.000 That's the Dead Sea Scrolls.
01:05:41.000 Some of the same stories that are in the Bible.
01:05:43.000 So these are the oldest versions by like a thousand years.
01:05:47.000 And I think they're the only ones that are in Aramaic.
01:05:50.000 It's in Aramaic, and it's written on animal skins. 0.99
01:05:53.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.99
01:05:54.000 They pieced together the Dead Sea Scrolls with DNA. They made sure that they got the DNA of the same cow, so they knew if it was the same cow, it most likely was the same piece of paper, because they were all different cows and different pieces of paper, and they had to figure out which animal skins, 0.99
01:06:10.000 because they had all these crumbs and pieces, and they had to piece them together over decades, man.
01:06:15.000 Just madness.
01:06:17.000 And that is what all the faith and beliefs are based on. 1.00
01:06:21.000 And they just found this shit, man. 0.99
01:06:23.000 It was in like 1947. Again, there's that old, I think it was in a TV series in the UK, there was a joke thing of they found the original first page of the Bible just saying that any resemblance to people in real life is purely coincidental and so on and so forth and that it's just a book of fiction. 0.98
01:06:41.000 It's just some found old thing.
01:06:43.000 Yeah, and the best version of the world, it would be, get to the end of the Bible, and it just says, Psyche!
01:06:49.000 We were on mushrooms!
01:06:52.000 That would be the best version.
01:06:54.000 Love David Copperfield.
01:06:55.000 Psyche!
01:06:56.000 Made it all up.
01:06:58.000 Yeah, in 1946, a collection of 981 texts.
01:07:02.000 Was discovered between 46 and 56. It took some 10 years in this area in the West Bank called Qumran.
01:07:09.000 And they were found inside caves about a mile inland north of the northwest shore of the Dead Sea. 0.99
01:07:16.000 Really interesting shit, man. 0.95
01:07:18.000 Nine of the scrolls. 0.99
01:07:20.000 We're rediscovered at the Israeli Antiquities Authority in 2014 after they had been stored unopened for six decades following their excavation in 1952. The texts are of great historical, religious, and linguistic significance because they include the earliest known surviving manuscripts of works later included in the Hebrew Bible canon along with Deuterocanonical Deuteronomy.
01:07:50.000 Is that the band?
01:07:50.000 Is that the band?
01:07:54.000 Deutero...
01:07:54.000 You know, this is how, like...
01:07:56.000 My wife was saying this to me the other day.
01:07:58.000 It's interesting when you're raising kids and you're teaching them how to say words and, you know, you have to spell it and you see how it's difficult.
01:08:05.000 Well, when you learn a new word like this, like, you know, if that was deuteronomy, I could just say it and it would be easy.
01:08:12.000 But I'm trying to figure it out as I'm saying it like a little kid.
01:08:16.000 Like, that kind of never goes away.
01:08:17.000 Yeah.
01:08:20.000 Deuterocanonical.
01:08:21.000 Deuterocanonical.
01:08:22.000 An extra-biblical manuscripts which preserve the evidence of the diversity of religious thought in the late Second Temple Judaism.
01:08:29.000 Interesting, interesting, interesting stuff, man.
01:08:33.000 From 408 BCE and 318 BCE. Man, they don't really know, though.
01:08:41.000 It's crazy that the Bible is just a collection of stories and not one...
01:08:45.000 Do you know what I mean?
01:08:46.000 It wasn't written as one thing.
01:08:48.000 You kind of think of it as the Bible, but saying that parts of the stuff on the Dead Sea Scrolls were stories included in the Bible.
01:08:54.000 Yeah.
01:08:55.000 Yeah, just pick and choose.
01:08:57.000 408 BCE. Whew!
01:08:59.000 I wonder what the oldest known...
01:09:00.000 That's the range.
01:09:03.000 So the oldest one they found is 408 BC. I wonder what the oldest version of the Hebrew Bible is, if you had a guess.
01:09:13.000 40 years. 1.00
01:09:14.000 Shut up, bitch. 1.00
01:09:15.000 That's ridiculous. 1.00
01:09:16.000 What do you think, like, the oldest version of the Hebrew Bible? 0.91
01:09:19.000 I have no clue.
01:09:22.000 3,000 years.
01:09:23.000 Because I had assumed that actually the Dead Sea Scrolls were from earlier than that.
01:09:27.000 I'd read something that must have been incorrect that said it was older than that.
01:09:32.000 Okay.
01:09:34.000 The oldest surviving Hebrew manuscript, including the Dead Sea Scrolls, 2nd century BCE. Well, this is Wikipedia, and it's giving me a different date.
01:09:43.000 Because they were saying 4, like 408, right?
01:09:47.000 Was that the longest version?
01:09:49.000 Yeah.
01:09:51.000 So that is like the oldest version.
01:09:52.000 It's the oldest version of the Hebrew Bible.
01:09:54.000 Or the oldest version of the stories that are in the Hebrew Bible.
01:09:57.000 That are in the Hebrew Bible.
01:09:59.000 Yeah, amazing.
01:10:01.000 Imagine if you can go back to those dudes who wrote the Bible way back then and you could bring them in a time machine to 2014 and show them the havoc that they've created. 0.96
01:10:09.000 Have them explain, yeah, what was...
01:10:11.000 No, that's not...
01:10:11.000 They've missed the whole page out there.
01:10:13.000 Just have them tweak it a little.
01:10:14.000 Well, it's so weird that it gets translated into different languages. 0.85
01:10:18.000 Like, have you ever done one of those things where you take Russian and you translate it to English and you try to, like, explain what the fuck they mean?
01:10:23.000 Their language is so different than ours that it always comes out like, he gives to a country but fails not. 0.93
01:10:30.000 Yeah.
01:10:30.000 Like, what?
01:10:32.000 You know, there's a weird interpretation of languages to English.
01:10:37.000 So you've got to think you're going from a weird language like ancient Hebrew, which was, they used to have, like, their numbers were embedded in their words.
01:10:45.000 So, like, there was no numbers.
01:10:47.000 What if it just started off as memes?
01:10:49.000 Like, what if we're just going back to how the Bible, you know, the language back then actually was just like, we all talked like a meme back then.
01:10:56.000 Like you just said, that sounds like a meme almost.
01:10:58.000 Like, I go back home with letters in...
01:11:01.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:11:01.000 That's not the Bible.
01:11:02.000 You're not even paying attention to what I said.
01:11:03.000 That's like if you take Russian and interpret it to English.
01:11:07.000 Right.
01:11:07.000 That's not what I'm saying.
01:11:10.000 Just the ancient languages, like when they try...
01:11:13.000 The fact that they've got that translation and the original thing they're reading is just so old and they're using DNA to kind of piece it in the right order and all that kind of thing.
01:11:24.000 Yes.
01:11:24.000 Mostly guessing, right?
01:11:25.000 Well, no, they're not really guessing, you know?
01:11:28.000 I mean, there's definitely pieces missing.
01:11:31.000 But when they have stories that are, like, when they translate part of the story and the story is, like, very similar to, like, Book of Genesis or something along those lines, they can sort of make those correlations.
01:11:42.000 If they have enough similarities, you know?
01:11:44.000 But there's a lot of those stories that are like that, man. 0.93
01:11:46.000 Like, when you go back to the oldest shit, that cuneiform that the Sumerians used to write in... 0.99
01:11:53.000 Oh, it's so weird looking, man. 0.96
01:11:55.000 There was no variation in the way their letters were.
01:12:00.000 Their letters were all like these little lines.
01:12:03.000 So they'd go down to...
01:12:04.000 Pull this up.
01:12:06.000 Cuneiform ancient Sumerian. 0.99
01:12:09.000 Weird, weird shit, man. 0.99
01:12:11.000 They would write in this... 1.00
01:12:12.000 More easy Google searches here.
01:12:14.000 It's just the simplest.
01:12:16.000 It's cool to look at.
01:12:18.000 What it looks like is a wedge.
01:12:22.000 Say if you were chopping down a tree, you had to stick a wedge in there.
01:12:25.000 They're more like wedges than they are.
01:12:28.000 It's not like a straight line.
01:12:30.000 It's like there's a fat top and then it goes down to a lower bottom.
01:12:34.000 This is how they wrote.
01:12:35.000 Look at these things.
01:12:37.000 How weird is that?
01:12:38.000 Yeah.
01:12:39.000 It's like all emojis.
01:12:40.000 Yeah.
01:12:41.000 It's so weird.
01:12:43.000 I mean, it's sort of like...
01:12:44.000 It's so hard to imagine how different that is. 0.99
01:12:48.000 Keep that up so we can look at that shit for a second. 0.99
01:12:50.000 Look how weird that is. 0.99
01:12:52.000 Like, that's their language, and they write in these little columns.
01:12:55.000 Yeah.
01:12:55.000 And so much of it just to us looking exactly the same, looking similar shapes and sizes.
01:13:01.000 How can that have the intricacies of a language?
01:13:04.000 Yeah, if you like... 1.00
01:13:07.000 If you looked at that, that looks like dog shit. 1.00
01:13:09.000 Like, if you had your whole life to figure out what the fuck that means, you would never figure it out. 1.00
01:13:14.000 You'd never figure it out. 0.96
01:13:16.000 So it takes like a team of linguists to piece this together. 1.00
01:13:20.000 And here's the crazy shit. 0.99
01:13:21.000 They don't even know what the word sounded like. 0.99
01:13:24.000 There's a bunch of words in ancient Sumerian. 0.99
01:13:26.000 It's a fucking guesswork. 0.98
01:13:28.000 There was a thing that someone had done where they had recreated what they believe ancient Sumerian sounded like. 0.99
01:13:36.000 But it's so dead that no one can even talk it.
01:13:39.000 Yeah, of course.
01:13:40.000 How can you even start to conceive how to pronounce the scratch-ins that were on that thing then?
01:13:47.000 It's so weird.
01:13:49.000 Well, I don't know how they do it.
01:13:50.000 I don't know.
01:13:51.000 I know that they have, like, this is what it looked like.
01:13:53.000 This is the language.
01:13:54.000 Yeah, I guess some of them...
01:13:55.000 Oh, this is year by year.
01:13:56.000 We'll scroll.
01:13:57.000 Make that a little larger so we can see it.
01:13:59.000 It's year by year.
01:14:00.000 Like, scroll down so you can get to the top, to the top, to the top.
01:14:04.000 See?
01:14:05.000 3200 BCE, 3000 BCE, and then you go all the way to the far right.
01:14:09.000 Yeah, and it's just all the lines.
01:14:10.000 A thousand, yeah.
01:14:11.000 Wow.
01:14:12.000 Those weird lines, man.
01:14:14.000 That's interesting.
01:14:15.000 So this was like 8-bit, and this is like Xbox.
01:14:18.000 They pretty much updated it to a better language.
01:14:22.000 No, the other way around.
01:14:24.000 Oh, the other way around.
01:14:24.000 Right, yeah.
01:14:27.000 It's got to be partly down to the methods in which they were writing.
01:14:34.000 They couldn't have done more intricate stuff if you're scratching into clay and stuff like that.
01:14:40.000 They also would make these rollers.
01:14:43.000 They would make these rollers and then they would lay out clay and they would roll the roller into the clay and then bake the clay.
01:14:51.000 So, like, the roller itself would be, like, a method of distributing, like, a newspaper.
01:14:58.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:14:58.000 Like, you'd be able to roll that shit, and you'd put it in the clay, and then you could do it several times. 0.97
01:15:03.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:15:03.000 Yeah, so they had these weird things that they used to do to make these clay tablets. 0.99
01:15:07.000 So you kind of have to make the newspaper yourself, as it were.
01:15:10.000 Yeah, I guess.
01:15:11.000 I mean, I... I remember hearing, it's crazy, the first adverts ever made were...
01:15:19.000 Musical notes and that printed on the product you bought and you had to sing the advert yourself.
01:15:25.000 It's the first ever jingles.
01:15:26.000 Really?
01:15:26.000 We're on cigarette packets and that.
01:15:29.000 But in those days...
01:15:31.000 Because, yeah, there wasn't any radio and stuff like that. 0.99
01:15:33.000 And in those days, everyone kind of had a piano or could play shit. 0.90
01:15:38.000 And, yeah, the first ever jingles were printed and written out and people would sit around the piano and play the... 0.97
01:15:45.000 The Camel Cigars.
01:15:46.000 Wow, that's wild.
01:15:49.000 It's the origin of Jingles.
01:15:50.000 The original Jingles was advertising.
01:15:53.000 Hey, pull up Sumerian cylinder seals.
01:15:57.000 And you can see these things that they used to do where they used to lay this clay down and roll their message out onto the clay.
01:16:05.000 And I guess if you probably wanted to get a message to somebody, you would send a seal, you'd send one of these cylinders, and then they would lay the clay out, and they would roll the cylinder on the clay, and it would read out what you had to say to them.
01:16:19.000 Isn't that wild?
01:16:20.000 What would you think this is?
01:16:22.000 Like, hey, look for the bird.
01:16:24.000 It's just arranging a meeting, isn't it?
01:16:26.000 That represents UFOs, Brian.
01:16:28.000 Don't you get it?
01:16:28.000 Look at the griffin on the bottom.
01:16:30.000 UFO. That's an alien.
01:16:32.000 See those squirrely things?
01:16:34.000 That's DNA. So what that represents is the alien came down from sky.
01:16:39.000 And Leo's rule.
01:16:40.000 And the griffins are awesome birds looking freaky lion things.
01:16:44.000 And what are those lions on the top?
01:16:46.000 Is there like a male lion and a female lion?
01:16:48.000 Is that what's going on there?
01:16:49.000 Yeah, they're like high-fiving.
01:16:51.000 Oh, they're doing knuckles, it looks like.
01:16:52.000 This is the number one culture that the ancient astronaut theorists point to.
01:16:57.000 They love this stuff. 0.99
01:16:59.000 Because it was so far ago, you're like, who the fuck knows? 0.99
01:17:02.000 So long ago, who the fuck knows what was really going on? 0.98
01:17:05.000 But these people in ancient Sumer, they had all this, like, they were really into the stars. 0.97
01:17:11.000 They had all these images of, like, the galaxy.
01:17:15.000 They had a depiction of the solar system.
01:17:17.000 With all the stars, or all the planets, rather, in the correct orbit.
01:17:20.000 It's really interesting.
01:17:21.000 It's crazy.
01:17:22.000 Yeah.
01:17:22.000 Pull up a Sumerian solar system.
01:17:26.000 Ancient Sumerian solar system. 0.80
01:17:28.000 Is that horses having sex?
01:17:30.000 It's one goat looking one way and one goat looking the other way and some crazy thing in the mail going, what do you want from me? 0.99
01:17:34.000 Everybody's banging everybody.
01:17:35.000 It's an important message to have had to send.
01:17:38.000 We need to commit this to Cylinder and get the word out about the way that goat was looking at it. 0.98
01:17:43.000 Well, it's like, haven't you ever made a note on your phone and you couldn't remember what the fuck it meant?
01:17:48.000 Like, at the time, you're like, I'll understand this. 0.68
01:17:50.000 So many times, I'm waking up at night and thinking, I've got a lyric or an idea, just noting it, and then looking at it and going, what the...
01:17:57.000 What was it that you wanted?
01:18:00.000 Sumerian solar system.
01:18:01.000 Solar system, yeah.
01:18:03.000 Yeah, there's an image of the sun in the center and all these planets that are floating around the sun.
01:18:09.000 And they're all in like the sort of similar sizes.
01:18:15.000 Like, see how it's like that?
01:18:16.000 Similar to what the actual planets are.
01:18:18.000 That's what it looked like.
01:18:19.000 But pull it back so you can actually see the image of itself.
01:18:23.000 The actual cylinder image.
01:18:26.000 You just had it.
01:18:27.000 Oh, you couldn't see it?
01:18:28.000 No, the image, the actual image, there's a clay image of it.
01:18:33.000 See it on the right?
01:18:34.000 That's it.
01:18:35.000 Either one of those.
01:18:36.000 That's the actual image.
01:18:37.000 And if you see that right there, that's the solar system.
01:18:41.000 In between them, there's the sun and those circles.
01:18:44.000 Those are the exact planets.
01:18:46.000 And, you know, the bigger ones are bigger and the smaller ones are smaller and they're all in the right orbit.
01:18:50.000 It's really weird.
01:18:52.000 Yeah, it's weird.
01:18:53.000 Most likely, what they think is, you know, when I've listened to many people give their opinions on these kind of things and how do these people know what they knew and what...
01:19:03.000 I'm... 0.95
01:19:05.000 I'm of an opinion that most likely at one point in time, people were really fucking smart. 0.98
01:19:11.000 And they had gotten really far, and they had learned a lot of shit, and they had lived for a long time, and then cataclysms happened. 0.97
01:19:18.000 They got hit by asteroids, they got hit by, you know, super volcanoes, whatever it is. 0.95
01:19:23.000 And whatever was learned was forgotten, and they started all over again.
01:19:27.000 And they probably did it a gang of times.
01:19:29.000 And people who kind of argue against that will say, just, yeah, would they have, like, why aren't there cameras or whatever?
01:19:39.000 But I think the very nature of that theory is there's no chance at all that their intelligence would have developed in the same way as did.
01:19:47.000 The technology wouldn't have developed in the same way.
01:19:48.000 They could have been far superior yet never invented technology.
01:20:06.000 I think that people from England have a bit of a better perspective of time Than people in America.
01:20:16.000 Because if you're in London, if you go through London, you'll see thousand-year-old buildings. 0.99
01:20:21.000 Like, you don't see that shit in America. 0.98
01:20:23.000 I was at a wedding in Boston once, and I had a day spare, and I popped into an antique store, and it was, like, all, like, the 50s and 60s. 0.99
01:20:30.000 And it's like, that's not an antique store.
01:20:32.000 Like, you go to England, antique store, it's, like, hundreds of years old, all this old stuff.
01:20:36.000 But there's, like, this is antiques.
01:20:37.000 This is, like, 80s.
01:20:39.000 This is...
01:20:41.000 This is a long time ago.
01:20:42.000 It's like, no, that's not what an antique is, my friend.
01:20:45.000 Yeah, there's bars in London that are like a thousand years old, right?
01:20:49.000 Yeah.
01:20:49.000 That's so crazy.
01:20:51.000 The whole place is, it's so different.
01:20:53.000 Like when you're passing by the palace and you look at that thing, you see Buckingham Palace and you're like, well, that's a palace.
01:20:59.000 It's right here.
01:21:00.000 They have a palace.
01:21:01.000 It's another thing in LA. When driving around, I see a lot of the houses that are kind of castle-like.
01:21:08.000 And they think that that's what a castle looks like.
01:21:10.000 It's like, have you been to a castle?
01:21:12.000 Because castles aren't really...
01:21:13.000 Castles aren't just houses with a little square bit on top.
01:21:16.000 They're these built out of rocks and these huge things.
01:21:20.000 And yeah, it always entertains me over here.
01:21:22.000 Yeah, all the different castles.
01:21:24.000 It's like, that's...
01:21:25.000 Isn't it weird that they sell castles?
01:21:27.000 Like, you can buy a castle.
01:21:29.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:21:30.000 Like, you, Scrooby's Pip, could go back to England and buy a goddamn castle. 0.99
01:21:35.000 I want a castle now. 0.99
01:21:38.000 Who do I need to talk to about this, Trevor?
01:21:40.000 I don't know.
01:21:41.000 We need to find the guy and connect you to him, because I watch one of those home and garden shows, you know, where people work on houses.
01:21:48.000 Or do they build you a castle, or you buy an original and old castle?
01:21:51.000 They had an old castle, and they were trying to do an addition, add-on to the castle, and they had to fight tooth and claw to get it. 0.99
01:22:00.000 They wanted to put a garage in or something like that, and they're like, fuck off, you can't, it's a castle. 0.99
01:22:04.000 But he's like, it's my castle! 0.99
01:22:06.000 I'm like, nope, can't do it, until they eventually let him do it.
01:22:09.000 I don't want to have a clicker for the drawbridge.
01:22:12.000 So when they pull up, it can just come on, help me out.
01:22:15.000 Just like an RFID card they put on your license plate.
01:22:17.000 As soon as it recognizes you're driving and it opens up the drawbridge, no one else can get in.
01:22:22.000 There's a few different castles in England that are hotels now and you can just go and stay in a castle that is hundreds and hundreds of years old.
01:22:30.000 I've done that before and it's, yeah.
01:22:32.000 Yeah.
01:22:32.000 Imagine owning...
01:22:34.000 You can, though.
01:22:35.000 I've heard of people that are famous people like, buy castles.
01:22:38.000 It feels so rude to put a TV and everything in, though.
01:22:41.000 Like, you're in this old castle and you're, like, kitting it out.
01:22:44.000 Yeah, you shouldn't even, like, you really probably shouldn't even have electricity.
01:22:48.000 No, you should just read.
01:22:50.000 Everything should be candlelight if you're going to do it right.
01:22:54.000 I mean, that's what England's basically like anyway.
01:22:57.000 It's all ye olde and candlelit.
01:22:58.000 I know that's what...
01:22:59.000 Is it really?
01:23:00.000 That's the image that we give out.
01:23:02.000 Check this out.
01:23:02.000 You can get some castles right here.
01:23:04.000 What kind of castle do you want?
01:23:05.000 Sell castles?
01:23:06.000 Yeah, what kind of castle do you want?
01:23:07.000 What do you mean?
01:23:07.000 It's like a website?
01:23:10.000 Yeah, it's a real estate website.
01:23:11.000 Wait a minute.
01:23:12.000 One of them says a castle's a thousand pounds?
01:23:14.000 A million.
01:23:15.000 Is that a million pounds?
01:23:16.000 That's what it says?
01:23:17.000 Yeah.
01:23:17.000 What's a pound as it relates to a dollar?
01:23:20.000 At the moment...
01:23:23.000 So that would be about 1.8 million?
01:23:27.000 So 1 million pounds is 1.8 million?
01:23:30.000 Yeah, roughly at the moment.
01:23:31.000 That's a pretty good deal for a castle.
01:23:33.000 Yeah, that seems crazy.
01:23:35.000 It seems like castles are one of those things that really wouldn't depreciate very much.
01:23:39.000 No, they don't.
01:23:40.000 I mean, you could get a castle in Transylvania.
01:23:42.000 You look after it, Will.
01:23:43.000 Yeah, and does it come with a vampire? 1.00
01:23:45.000 Fuck that. 1.00
01:23:46.000 That's 47. Do you want to have a castle? 1.00
01:23:48.000 Where do you...
01:23:49.000 Weekend?
01:23:49.000 Oh, we go to Transylvania.
01:23:52.000 We have a summer home.
01:23:53.000 I bet Wi-Fi would suck in a castle.
01:23:55.000 It's probably non-existent.
01:23:57.000 You'd probably have to have satellite internet.
01:23:58.000 I mean, you might not even be able to get that.
01:24:00.000 I guarantee you they haven't laid the lines down unless this castle's been used by people for a long time. 0.71
01:24:07.000 I drove through Transylvania on our last tour and it just feels like the most underused, like, they should put a Dracula Disneyland or some shit there. 0.53
01:24:18.000 Yeah, right. 0.56
01:24:18.000 And it'd be the most, that'd be a huge tourist thing. 0.56
01:24:21.000 You go through and it is eerie and kind of run down and really no economy going on there and you just think... 0.99
01:24:27.000 It's Transylvania, for fuck's sake. 0.98
01:24:30.000 Surely that's the most marketable real location. 0.99
01:24:35.000 It blows people's mind to find out that that's a real place.
01:24:37.000 That's not just a fictional thing in a book.
01:24:40.000 Someone needs to go there and build a tourist resort.
01:24:44.000 Dude, you should do it.
01:24:45.000 You should do it.
01:24:46.000 You should contact their tourism board.
01:24:48.000 I'll remortgage my castle and see if I can open up Transylvania. 0.99
01:24:54.000 But doesn't it seem like that would be a dope idea?
01:24:57.000 Yeah.
01:24:57.000 Yeah.
01:24:58.000 And you think of loads of kind of where you have these amusement parks and things like that.
01:25:05.000 It's normally in kind of shitty areas where there isn't anything else anyway because you don't want that in the middle of a town.
01:25:10.000 Don't say that about Anaheim, sir. 1.00
01:25:12.000 That shit's rude. 0.99
01:25:14.000 Orlando either. 1.00
01:25:16.000 But it makes them a destination.
01:25:18.000 Oh yeah, Orlando's a big-time destination just because of those.
01:25:22.000 And if you had...
01:25:24.000 Whoa, how about this? 0.99
01:25:26.000 If you had a fucking spot where you had It was like an amusement park, but it was all horror rides. 0.99
01:25:34.000 Everything was fucking terrifying. 0.99
01:25:36.000 Like, they're doing an American Werewolf in London maze at Universal for Halloween, which I'll be attending. 0.99
01:25:43.000 Every day. 1.00
01:25:44.000 See that shit. 1.00
01:25:45.000 That's going to be fun. 1.00
01:25:46.000 Doing it on mushrooms.
01:25:47.000 But could you imagine...
01:25:48.000 It's making an amusement park purely for adults.
01:25:51.000 An amusement park for adults in Transylvania that's all horror. 0.98
01:25:56.000 And then they set up the entire location like they have fucking speakers in the woods where you hear horrible howls in the middle of the night while you're sleeping. 1.00
01:26:05.000 They scare the fucking shit out of you. 1.00
01:26:08.000 It's the way to go. 1.00
01:26:09.000 Everywhere you go, people are...
01:26:11.000 Instead of like... 0.97
01:26:12.000 When you go to Disneyland, you see dudes are dressed up like fucking Mickey Mouse and Goofy and you go by Goofy's Kitchen and Goofy wave at you. 0.98
01:26:20.000 Instead of that, you have dudes made up in full horror outfits. 0.96
01:26:25.000 And those dudes would love working there.
01:26:27.000 Just sprinting out of nowhere.
01:26:29.000 Just out of nowhere.
01:26:29.000 They dive in front of you.
01:26:31.000 And then take off into the bushes. 1.00
01:26:34.000 They don't fuck with people. 1.00
01:26:35.000 They don't hit them. 1.00
01:26:36.000 But they scare the shit out of you. 0.99
01:26:38.000 When you're going there, though, you'd have to sign so much shit to say you're not going to punch anyone. 0.99
01:26:43.000 Ooh, what is this? 0.99
01:26:44.000 Because if someone jumps out at you, you have something.
01:26:45.000 I think this is like a camp where you go camping, but it's a horror camp.
01:26:49.000 Oh, great.
01:26:50.000 It sounds like a recipe for murder.
01:26:53.000 It's probably really annoying. 1.00
01:26:55.000 Well, if you were like a crazy fuck and wanted to kill people, like Jason style, wouldn't you want to do it at this camp? 1.00
01:27:00.000 That seems so appropriate. 1.00
01:27:02.000 Yeah.
01:27:02.000 There's a big thing in the UK now where they have kind of these zombie tour things or whatever, and it'll be in an old shopping center or something, and you'll pay to go and be part of it, and it will be all actors kind of just jumping out and chasing you as zombies, and you'll be living out the zombie apocalypse.
01:27:20.000 But again, all of that just feels, how many of those actors get punched in the face, or someone just reacting in panic and hurting people.
01:27:29.000 What they really need to do is make real zombies.
01:27:32.000 Like, have an artificial, real zombie.
01:27:35.000 Have, like, what you do is, you make, like, a fake person that's not really a person...
01:27:41.000 It's not a weird person.
01:27:42.000 It's dead.
01:27:43.000 You show it's got a shriveled-up brain, but it can move, and it comes at you like it's going to bite you, and you have a sword.
01:27:48.000 And there's hundreds of them, and it's like a new amusement park.
01:27:51.000 And this is when bioengineering gets to a really high level.
01:27:56.000 It's been said a million times, but the processor that you have in your phone was... 0.97
01:28:02.000 It's far greater than the processes that put people on the fucking moon. 0.95
01:28:06.000 So imagine what kind of technology they're having. 0.90
01:28:09.000 Today they're starting to develop all these artificial cells, artificial skin, they're going to develop artificial body parts.
01:28:16.000 It's going to get to a point where about a thousand years from now you're going to be able to make zombies.
01:28:21.000 Everyone's going to know.
01:28:22.000 It doesn't have a soul. 1.00
01:28:23.000 You can just chop this fucker up. 1.00
01:28:24.000 I'd be carrying a zombie donor card to say that when I die, definitely just turn me into a zombie. 1.00
01:28:32.000 But I'm saying artificial.
01:28:33.000 I want my family to have free access to it.
01:28:35.000 People are never going to allow that.
01:28:37.000 See, that's the difference.
01:28:38.000 What you're talking about is an actual person that becomes a zombie.
01:28:41.000 What I'm talking about is a constructed, artificial person that never had the potential to be an actual person.
01:28:46.000 It's made entirely in a factory.
01:28:48.000 There's no soul whatsoever, but it's made out of an artificial flesh with bones.
01:28:53.000 It moves at you and it's trying to bite you.
01:28:56.000 And what do you do? 1.00
01:28:57.000 You fucking sword fight this bitch. 1.00
01:28:59.000 On the notebook of people who are working on making clones and shit, how far down do you think clone artificial zombies is? 1.00
01:29:08.000 A lot of my ideas, especially my more poorly thought out ones, a lot of them require, like, some sort of a demise of civilization for them to be valid. 0.92
01:29:17.000 And this is one of them.
01:29:17.000 We would have to have some serious casualties.
01:29:20.000 We'd have to devalue life in a way where, like, today...
01:29:24.000 I like it as the answer, though, when people are against cloning and the dangers of it and they're not a real person and the risks of playing God, it's like, well, no, we...
01:29:33.000 They're zombies.
01:29:34.000 We're only going to make them...
01:29:35.000 We're not going to have them thinking and acting. 0.94
01:29:37.000 Cloning's alright as long as we're making brain-dead zombies, essentially.
01:29:41.000 Well, if we really just decided to start cloning people, that would be a huge issue.
01:29:48.000 Could you imagine if people just decided they wanted to make more Scroobies pips?
01:29:52.000 Yeah.
01:29:52.000 What if they got a hold of your DNA and they made a bunch of them and you didn't even realize they did that until they were like 15 or 16 and then you made them?
01:29:59.000 And you're an older man and you're meeting yourself at 15. There's like 20 of you and you're like, what the fuck? 0.99
01:30:03.000 I'm not even responsible for my own self growing up. 1.00
01:30:06.000 And they come in there to wipe you out.
01:30:09.000 Yeah, and they're using your name.
01:30:11.000 They can be only one.
01:30:12.000 They're all Joe Rogans, a ton of Joe Rogans.
01:30:14.000 House of Cosby's.
01:30:15.000 They all look exactly like you.
01:30:16.000 They all have your fingerprints.
01:30:17.000 Is that what the real Rick Ross and Rick Ross thing actually is?
01:30:20.000 Is it a clone thing?
01:30:21.000 No, they don't look alike at all.
01:30:23.000 The real Rick Ross is actually quite lean. 0.95
01:30:25.000 Goddammit. 0.56
01:30:26.000 The fake Rick Ross is the one.
01:30:27.000 If cloning came about and you had the choice of doing it yourself, would that be of any...
01:30:33.000 Why would I want to clone myself?
01:30:35.000 I don't see how I'd benefit from that.
01:30:37.000 It'd just be me.
01:30:38.000 No.
01:30:39.000 I don't get it, but if it came about, surely you'd have the rights to your own DNA. Surely that'd be a key thing, rather than me finding out and bumping into a script.
01:30:48.000 It'd have to be, I would have made that happen.
01:30:49.000 But you would find out that when you signed your terms of use, when you got your iPhone, that you gave up your right to clone yourself, and that they own you.
01:30:56.000 So every time you use your phone, a little bit of your DNA gets in you from your earwax, gets into the speaker, and then you turn them in, and then they just make copies of you.
01:31:04.000 It'll be some scam that they expose on CNN or something.
01:31:07.000 They're making iPhones.
01:31:09.000 They're taking iPhones and then using them as DNA collectors.
01:31:13.000 Yeah.
01:31:14.000 They're making copies of Scroogey's Pip. 0.96
01:31:16.000 Goddammit.
01:31:17.000 Well, I think we're going to wonder at one point in time, we're going to wonder what is an acceptable way to consider how to engineer our civilization both as our society, like how we govern ourselves,
01:31:32.000 how we have laws, how we distribute money, and then also how we breed.
01:31:37.000 There's going to come a point in time when people become super, super intelligent, far removed from this weird sort of ape-like situation we find ourselves in today.
01:31:46.000 And if they get to that point one day, they'll be like, look, how much should we be investing our intellectual time into actively breeding people the way we do every other animal that we have under our control?
01:31:59.000 I mean, the way we breed cows, the way we breed dogs, should we just keep doing this whole thing on love, or should we just love everybody and breed according to the best way possible to enhance the human race?
01:32:12.000 But surely that would, in turn, just involve cutting down breeding hugely, because surely the biggest problem of the human race is that there's far too many of us to fit on this silly planet.
01:32:24.000 With that boiling pot of having far too many of us, it sort of highlights the reason why that would be a terrible idea, because there's so many variables that make society awesome, and all of them come from completely different realities.
01:32:39.000 The variable of the computer geek is a very different reality than the variable of a pro football player.
01:32:44.000 And all these variables, and biological variables too, as far as the way your body works, might lead you in one direction or another.
01:32:54.000 Lead your desires.
01:32:55.000 And that's what makes this whole world so fucking cool and crazy in the first place.
01:32:58.000 So could you imagine if we got so far advanced that we decided to start genetically engineering?
01:33:05.000 Selecting the end goal straight away rather than everything that can influence.
01:33:10.000 Yeah, and in doing so we lost all art.
01:33:12.000 Yeah.
01:33:13.000 We lost all of it.
01:33:14.000 Because it's not functional.
01:33:15.000 Well, because everybody's perfect.
01:33:17.000 Everyone's perfect.
01:33:18.000 No one has any emotions.
01:33:20.000 Everyone's rational and logical.
01:33:22.000 There's no more art.
01:33:23.000 It's over.
01:33:24.000 We're super advanced.
01:33:25.000 No art and no strippers.
01:33:27.000 It's killer. 0.65
01:33:28.000 Well, we'd have robot strippers. 1.00
01:33:30.000 And then we would slowly start to devolve and people enjoyed robot strippers more than they enjoyed meditation classes.
01:33:37.000 Memory injection, they're not real. 0.99
01:33:40.000 You just have a Netflix of memories like, oh, I just fucked that stripper. 1.00
01:33:44.000 Well, I think there's definitely going to be a time where you're going to be able to download memories. 0.78
01:33:49.000 I think that is without a doubt what we're seeing with these Google Glasses.
01:33:52.000 What you're seeing is the beginning.
01:33:54.000 You could take photos with Google Glass, right?
01:33:56.000 You could look at things, you could take photos.
01:33:58.000 Well, if you can look at things and take photos, what are you doing when you're taking a photo?
01:34:01.000 You're capturing time.
01:34:02.000 You're capturing a moment.
01:34:04.000 It's just not the best version of it, but it's way better than a painting, and that's how they used to capture time.
01:34:09.000 Everything that's here now, pulling it into a little...
01:34:11.000 Exactly.
01:34:12.000 Exactly.
01:34:12.000 But it's very two-dimensional.
01:34:14.000 It's right in front of you.
01:34:15.000 Well, it'll eventually become three-dimensional, and then one day, it'll be immersive.
01:34:19.000 One day you'll be able to record and not just record a single image, like this is the baby steps.
01:34:24.000 One day, you know, this is like when people first started to figure out a fire, you know, and what that led to is the combustion engine.
01:34:31.000 I mean, think about that, all the way up to plane travel. 0.98
01:34:34.000 It was figure out fire, all the other shit comes up after it. 0.78
01:34:37.000 What we're seeing now, by being able to take a photograph with the glasses, we're capturing time in a very rudimentary way, but really For us, amazing. 0.96
01:34:45.000 Well, one day, we're going to be able to capture everything about it.
01:34:49.000 The way your seat feels, the way your hands are sweaty, the way your beard itches, the way your clothes fit.
01:34:54.000 You're going to be in that life.
01:34:56.000 So you'll be able to take someone's memory and just run whatever it is, you know, an hour program, a two-hour program.
01:35:04.000 People will be able to upload their sexual exploits.
01:35:07.000 I mean, that's going to be legit.
01:35:09.000 We should remove the point of needing a memory as such.
01:35:13.000 Because if you can just access it all, it'd kill our ability to actually remember stuff because you don't need to anymore.
01:35:18.000 The same as how Google already...
01:35:21.000 And now there's so much that you don't need to learn or take in because you can really quickly see who was in that film and what else he was in.
01:35:28.000 There's that kind of instant thing.
01:35:30.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:35:31.000 I think the first thing that's going to happen is there's going to be a search of your memory starting from a certain period of time where you're going to be able to access what you had said in the past or did in the past.
01:35:42.000 And it's going to be more searchable to the point where I go, what did I say last night around 10 o'clock?
01:35:47.000 You said at 10.01, blah, blah, blah, while standing at this location.
01:35:51.000 And you know what I mean?
01:35:52.000 Right, right, right.
01:35:53.000 Yeah.
01:35:54.000 You're going to have Google for yourself.
01:35:55.000 Yeah, you'll be able to ask it.
01:35:57.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:35:58.000 Which you did, and you'll be able to pull it up.
01:36:00.000 It's going to ruin the fun of arguments, though, right?
01:36:03.000 When you can accurately say, no, here's what you actually said.
01:36:06.000 This isn't...
01:36:07.000 Rather than, no, no, no, no.
01:36:08.000 I didn't say...
01:36:09.000 I never said that.
01:36:09.000 I meant...
01:36:10.000 What I said was this.
01:36:11.000 No, let's rewind.
01:36:11.000 Where were you last night?
01:36:12.000 That's the next logical progression, right?
01:36:14.000 Because Google's already ruined the bullshitters' argument. 0.97
01:36:17.000 When people bullshit about stuff, you go, wait a minute, let me Google that. 1.00
01:36:19.000 Bitch, that's not true. 1.00
01:36:21.000 How many of those conversations have happened since Google where those guys would have been insufferable fucks forever? 1.00
01:36:26.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:36:26.000 Completely. 0.99
01:36:27.000 It's weird.
01:36:27.000 I always enjoy it in football or soccer, as you guys insist on calling it.
01:36:34.000 We don't insist on calling it anything.
01:36:35.000 We wish it would go away.
01:36:36.000 That ball would pop. 0.81
01:36:38.000 These white people in America would stop pretending they like soccer to appear more interesting. 0.97
01:36:43.000 Hipsters. 1.00
01:36:43.000 Fuck off. 1.00
01:36:44.000 For years, they were pushing for goal line technology and all this to see if a goal definitely happened. 1.00
01:36:50.000 And the main guy in charge, his argument for not having it was... 0.99
01:36:54.000 One of the best things about this sport is arguing over that shit. 1.00
01:36:57.000 And I love that. 1.00
01:36:58.000 I love that as a kind of...
01:36:59.000 I was like, that's the best logical reason I've heard.
01:37:01.000 That it's better not knowing exactly.
01:37:03.000 Like, it's a referee's decision and then the next day you're like, that clearly went over the line.
01:37:07.000 This is...
01:37:07.000 That's great.
01:37:08.000 That's part of sport.
01:37:10.000 That's a big thing in baseball.
01:37:11.000 You shouldn't have it all perfect. 0.99
01:37:12.000 In baseball, it's so boring, but they love to argue when someone's safe or out, and they'll fucking play that foot touching that bag a hundred times, and the guy catching the ball and the foot touching the bag, they'll play that shit over and over and over again. 0.97
01:37:24.000 That's a terrible call by the referee. 0.99
01:37:26.000 I disagree.
01:37:26.000 From my point of view, I think it was the right call.
01:37:28.000 If technology is just saying, no, here's the answer, that was out.
01:37:32.000 Exactly.
01:37:33.000 It takes all the fun out of it.
01:37:34.000 It takes a little bit of the fun out of it, especially goofy sports.
01:37:40.000 It's a strange thing, our obsession with scoring.
01:37:46.000 We have a built-in need for war and a built-in need to conquer and a built-in need to form tribes, to go on after other tribes. 0.77
01:37:53.000 We figured out a way to do it peaceably.
01:37:55.000 Through sport, you know, through organized, high-level athletic competitions.
01:37:59.000 We have our team takes on your team, and if we win, we drink, and we run through the streets, woo-hoo!
01:38:06.000 Do you think there's then an intentional thing in sports?
01:38:09.000 Like, I mean, in MMA, everyone talks about, is the 10-point must system the right system?
01:38:13.000 Do you think there's an active thing of, well, yeah, because everyone's having this discussion and talking about it and engaging about this fight, rather than, oh, you know, it'd be best if we actually knew who won and who won.
01:38:25.000 The problem with that is sometimes the scoring system is so bad and so ineffective that it leaves everyone feeling like they get robbed.
01:38:32.000 You see, I think the scoring system works.
01:38:36.000 It's just you need better understanding from the judges and from the...
01:38:40.000 I think, again, almost any system, if it's clear enough and the people understand it, then it works.
01:38:46.000 I agree with you in some ways, but I also think that it's just not a comprehensive enough system to have 10 points.
01:38:56.000 Because MMA is not one sport.
01:38:58.000 See, if it's boxing, the thing about boxing is, did this guy use his hands better or did that guy use his hands better?
01:39:02.000 This guy did.
01:39:03.000 Well, then he wins.
01:39:04.000 Look, he scored 100 punches.
01:39:08.000 Five of them were this, and 10 were that, and 30 were that.
01:39:11.000 And you go over these statistics, and it's kind of clear who got the round.
01:39:17.000 It's not hard to figure out.
01:39:18.000 But when you start factoring in things like takedowns, and then things like leg kicks, and things like submission attempts, and you have it quantify...
01:39:26.000 What's more important?
01:39:27.000 Whether it's the strike or the takedown, what's more important?
01:39:31.000 Is it more important this guy landed five punches, or is it more important that that guy took the other guy down and held onto him and did nothing?
01:39:36.000 And different people are going to have different opinions.
01:39:38.000 It's very subjective.
01:39:39.000 And when you're dealing with something like a 10-point system, one guy's going to get 10, one guy's going to get 9. It's very screwy.
01:39:47.000 You need more.
01:39:48.000 You need a scoring for grappling.
01:39:52.000 So scoring all the way across each one.
01:39:54.000 Yeah, there should be a score for everything that happens in the round, and there should be 10-9 for each event.
01:40:01.000 If they're standing up, 10-9, Jon Jones controlled the stand-up.
01:40:05.000 But then Jon got it to the ground, and it was 10-6, because he almost submitted him, beat the shit out of him, controlled him.
01:40:11.000 When it came to takedown defense, this guy got that.
01:40:16.000 You could have it like that and then count up the score.
01:40:18.000 But then that would be tough if they're on the ground for a small amount of time, but that time they were on the ground, this guy scored that guy.
01:40:28.000 Right.
01:40:29.000 Then if they've got 10-6 for that, that was like 30 seconds.
01:40:34.000 No, because if a guy goes to the ground and it's only for a few seconds, it's not going to mean anything.
01:40:39.000 You have to have a submission attempt for it to mean something.
01:40:42.000 So if the guy just went to the ground and got back up, it'd probably be a 9-9.
01:40:45.000 If a guy takes you down and get back up, and you get immediately back up, it'd maybe not be even, but it's pretty close to even.
01:40:54.000 I just think that if a judge is properly educated on it, then they'll be able to come closer and take all that into account and know that that takedown, there were three takedowns, but he didn't do anything while he was down, or they got up straight away.
01:41:06.000 And I think if there's a greater education on the judges, they'd be able to work that system.
01:41:11.000 I wish I was English just so I could say straight away and say it like normal and proper.
01:41:17.000 And that's a proper fight.
01:41:20.000 No, you're right, but I just think there's not enough variables.
01:41:24.000 Or I think there's too many variables, rather, and not enough accounting for those variables in the current scoring system.
01:41:29.000 Why is it that they...
01:41:43.000 I think?
01:41:53.000 Only do MMA and therefore be more...
01:41:56.000 Well, that's the local athletic commissions have the say on who gets to referee, who gets to judge.
01:42:01.000 And it's an issue that we deal with when we fight, when we have events in certain places that don't have a lot of high-level fights. 0.98
01:42:08.000 And so you'll have local judges that were appointed by the commissions, and they're on television, and they're doing a terrible fucking job.
01:42:14.000 And they do things like they get too involved, they have two big egos, so they get in the way of the action, they tell guys to fight, and the guys are fighting. 0.91
01:42:22.000 They become a distraction.
01:42:25.000 Enforcing the rules.
01:42:26.000 But that seems to happen a lot less.
01:42:28.000 It seems to be they'll tend to choose the bigger refs. 0.99
01:42:33.000 For big events.
01:42:34.000 For big events.
01:42:35.000 It's critical.
01:42:36.000 If you have a big fight, you want an Yves Levine, you want Herb Dean, you want Josh Rosenthal before he went to jail.
01:42:43.000 You want big John McCarthy. 0.99
01:42:44.000 You want somebody who's not going to fuck up. 0.99
01:42:47.000 Mark Goddard in the UK. He's great. 0.99
01:42:49.000 I did his course on his seminar on refereeing and judging.
01:42:54.000 And I think he's just, yeah.
01:42:55.000 Mark's great.
01:42:55.000 He's got such a good, similar to Herb, in the calmness in the cage of knowing that, yeah.
01:43:02.000 There's a lot of good guys now.
01:43:03.000 He's in control.
01:43:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:43:05.000 It's a hard gig.
01:43:06.000 It's a very hard gig.
01:43:07.000 It's very difficult to make the right decision, and you have to be on top of the action.
01:43:11.000 You can't let someone get hurt, but you also can't stop a fight too soon, and you have to be very knowledgeable.
01:43:17.000 There's a lot going on there.
01:43:19.000 It's a very, very stressful position that doesn't get a lot of reward.
01:43:24.000 People don't appreciate when they're really good, but they get very upset if they're bad.
01:43:28.000 And it's an easy job for everyone that isn't doing it.
01:43:31.000 It's easy to sit there and go, ah, there you go, that's...
01:43:34.000 Yes.
01:43:36.000 That's absolutely true.
01:43:39.000 But that's true with a lot of things.
01:43:42.000 Watching it from the outside, it looks like it would be easy.
01:43:44.000 But doing that is way harder than what I do.
01:43:47.000 Intense.
01:43:47.000 What I do is tricky, but it's not nearly as hard as being a referee.
01:43:52.000 I think that's way harder.
01:43:53.000 Those guys, people get mad at them, man.
01:43:55.000 They stop fights too soon.
01:43:57.000 Dudes push them. 1.00
01:43:58.000 Guys fucking scream at them. 1.00
01:44:00.000 And they have to be able to control shit too, you know? 1.00
01:44:03.000 Like when things are going down and if guys won't get off of each other and they won't stop hitting each other, that's why I get nervous when I see female referees and big men. 0.97
01:44:13.000 Do you think experience in the cage is key for a referee?
01:44:20.000 Because again, I always feel the people that have actually fought or have trained on judging or refereeing, surely that would benefit...
01:44:27.000 Your ability to know when someone needs helping or needs protecting rather than having not experienced it and kind of being outside on it.
01:44:37.000 I think that's a good point.
01:44:39.000 Yeah.
01:44:39.000 I think most definitely having some high-level training.
01:44:43.000 Most definitely.
01:44:44.000 Understanding when a guy's in a bad position, like when a guy's neck is about to get hurt, when a guy's arm is about to snap.
01:44:50.000 When Herb Dean stopped the Tim Sylvia versus Frank Mir, Frank Mir broke his arm.
01:44:55.000 And Herb jumped in and stopped.
01:44:57.000 He heard the snap and he stepped in and stopped the action.
01:45:00.000 And Tim didn't know when he wasn't tapping.
01:45:02.000 Yeah, he wasn't tapping and he was still trying to keep fighting.
01:45:04.000 He knew something wrong with his arm, but he didn't know exactly what it was.
01:45:07.000 I mean, that's because Herb has grappled, he's fought MMA, he's a very high-level martial artist himself.
01:45:14.000 So he knew there was a bad situation.
01:45:16.000 But say if that was someone who had never trained and maybe was out of shape, And just didn't recognize it. 0.98
01:45:22.000 That guy's arm could have got fucked up really badly. 0.97
01:45:25.000 Because if Frank kept yanking on it, he would have kept yanking on it. 1.00
01:45:28.000 He wasn't going to let that fucking thing go. 0.99
01:45:30.000 He could have torn through the skin. 1.00
01:45:31.000 It could have been a compound fracture.
01:45:32.000 It could have been really, really, really ugly.
01:45:35.000 And I guess it is a compound fracture when they both break.
01:45:38.000 But when they puncture through the skin, that's another level of severity because you have to worry about infections.
01:45:45.000 It's super dangerous.
01:45:47.000 And that could easily happen if you got the wrong guy who's reffing a fight.
01:45:51.000 Tough job.
01:45:53.000 Leon Roberts is another UK guy.
01:45:54.000 He's very good.
01:45:55.000 Yeah, he's great.
01:45:55.000 He's excellent.
01:45:56.000 There's a lot of good guys that are doing it now.
01:45:59.000 There's a lot of good guys.
01:46:00.000 There's a large group of people that sort of grew up being MMA fans and got involved in smaller shows and became a trusted referee.
01:46:10.000 But the gold standard is always like John McCarthy, Herb Dean.
01:46:13.000 Those are the gold standard.
01:46:14.000 And Rosenthal was great too, man.
01:46:15.000 Unfortunately, he went to jail.
01:46:17.000 For that weed, son.
01:46:19.000 Slanging that weed up in Northern California.
01:46:22.000 Apparently he had some pistolas he's not supposed to have.
01:46:27.000 They had to penalize.
01:46:29.000 It's no good.
01:46:30.000 Robbed of a good judge.
01:46:31.000 Yeah, it sucked because he's a cool dude.
01:46:33.000 Yeah, he's a cool dude too.
01:46:35.000 I mean, I hope when he gets out of jail they recognize that it wasn't a violent crime and they...
01:46:39.000 Yeah.
01:46:39.000 They reinstate him.
01:46:41.000 But, you know, dude's in jail for like over a year for weed.
01:46:44.000 But, you know, I don't know what you're...
01:46:50.000 I guess it's like if you're selling medical marijuana, it's legal state-wise, but it's not legal federally.
01:46:57.000 So I don't know.
01:46:57.000 I guess you could still get busted for it federally.
01:46:59.000 But he wasn't even doing that.
01:47:01.000 He was just slinging weed.
01:47:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:47:03.000 There was no federal involved who's, like, getting paid, selling plants, which I support, 100%.
01:47:10.000 Yeah.
01:47:11.000 I'm tired. 1.00
01:47:12.000 It's so stupid. 1.00
01:47:14.000 It's unbelievably stupid that it's possible to lock someone in a cage for selling plants in 2010. It's dumb as fuck. 1.00
01:47:21.000 I don't care if it's written on a piece of paper. 1.00
01:47:23.000 It's dumb as fuck. 1.00
01:47:24.000 Selling plants to people who want them plants and grown-ups and adults and... 1.00
01:47:29.000 Should he have guns on them?
01:47:30.000 No.
01:47:31.000 Probably shouldn't have illegal guns on them. 0.92
01:47:33.000 That I agree with.
01:47:33.000 I mean, that part's harder to argue.
01:47:35.000 I'm not arguing that part.
01:47:37.000 The guns, not so much.
01:47:38.000 But yeah, I get that.
01:47:39.000 It's crazy.
01:47:40.000 Yeah, it's just so sad. 1.00
01:47:42.000 And one day they're going to look back and they're going to realize how unbelievably stupid we were when it came to our drug policies. 1.00
01:47:49.000 Unbelievably stupid. 1.00
01:47:50.000 Like we took the most beneficial, the least harmful ones and we made them the most illegal and put people in jail for the longest amount of time for those. 1.00
01:47:59.000 It's the perception of it as well.
01:48:00.000 I always remember when I was younger and I was smoking a lot of weed and doing a lot of acid and shit like that. 0.83
01:48:06.000 Good times. 0.58
01:48:07.000 Yeah, good times.
01:48:09.000 And reading Tim F. Leary's thing of when he was saying how the way society looks at drugs is legal or not legal.
01:48:17.000 His argument was it should be treated like a car.
01:48:21.000 If you want to buy acid, you pass a test, you get your license, you...
01:48:26.000 Basically prove that you're intelligent and of sound mind enough to enjoy this and then you go and buy it.
01:48:33.000 Not because the one drug we've got in alcohol, it's just you pay money and that's that.
01:48:39.000 Right.
01:48:39.000 Anyone can have it.
01:48:40.000 It's kind of, yeah, I loved that the first time I read that of the small-mindedness of the way we approach it when there's millions of ways to approach the legalisation of every drug.
01:48:49.000 Well, it's also very strange when we arbitrarily decide that one drug, regardless of its impact on people's health and well-being and crimes committed under the influence of it, which is like one of the most devastating ones, alcohol, and we make that our primary drug.
01:49:06.000 And we just decide.
01:49:08.000 That's the one.
01:49:09.000 That's our drug.
01:49:10.000 I'm behind that one.
01:49:11.000 If you're going to do that, if you're dealing with a sophisticated, intelligent civilization like the UK, like the United States of America, like the Western world in the year 2014, you're dealing with people that have just previously impossible levels of access to information.
01:49:30.000 It's unparalleled access to information.
01:49:33.000 It's never in human history.
01:49:34.000 And yet, in the face of this, in the face of this overwhelming evidence, you're choosing to To put people in cages for plants.
01:49:46.000 That's unconscionable.
01:49:49.000 It's intolerable.
01:49:50.000 It's because we've known it for so long that it's just acceptable. 0.91
01:49:53.000 It's the same as we were saying earlier with religion, of how ludicrous it is, but because it's been there for so long, it's accepted. 0.99
01:49:59.000 It's exactly the same with that. 0.79
01:50:00.000 But I think it's changing.
01:50:01.000 If that didn't happen, and a politician came in and said, what we're going to do is we're going to put humans in cages...
01:50:10.000 And people would go absolutely mental.
01:50:12.000 That didn't already exist. 0.99
01:50:13.000 If that was a new thing, they'd be like, the fuck are you talking about? 1.00
01:50:15.000 What the fuck are you talking about? 1.00
01:50:16.000 You're not putting people in cages for plants. 0.99
01:50:19.000 He's violated drug policy number 65290. He has more than one gram of marijuana on him for personal consumption.
01:50:28.000 Get in that fucking cage, hippie. 1.00
01:50:31.000 Didn't they just change it in Brooklyn? 1.00
01:50:33.000 Didn't they just make weed legal in Brooklyn? 0.86
01:50:37.000 Medical, I think, yes.
01:50:39.000 I don't think so, man.
01:50:41.000 Medical in New York, but I think they made edibles legal?
01:50:45.000 Really?
01:50:46.000 Where?
01:50:46.000 In New York.
01:50:48.000 Edibles are legal in New York.
01:50:49.000 Marijuana in New York.
01:50:53.000 Hmm.
01:50:54.000 That's nice. 1.00
01:50:55.000 I like hearing that shit. 1.00
01:50:56.000 Florida was the opposite. 1.00
01:50:57.000 Everyone told me it's so bad if they find a seed in your car, they will get you. 1.00
01:51:03.000 Yeah, they'll fuck with you in Florida, dude. 1.00
01:51:05.000 They only want cocaine. 1.00
01:51:06.000 Yeah.
01:51:10.000 Yeah, it's a medical marijuana state as of July 5th of 2014. So you can get medical weed in New York.
01:51:17.000 Good!
01:51:18.000 Jesus Christ!
01:51:18.000 How is this 2014 it's happened?
01:51:21.000 Especially the medical, which is by the way a Trojan horse.
01:51:24.000 But especially the medical, because the medical is, you can't argue against it.
01:51:30.000 People have interocular pressure from glaucoma, it cures them, it helps relieve pain.
01:51:35.000 It helps regain the appetite of people that are suffering from AIDS and on chemotherapy.
01:51:39.000 It's like there's so many benefits.
01:51:42.000 It's impossible to argue medically.
01:51:44.000 How long do you think it will be before it just spreads over the country?
01:51:48.000 Because it seems that it works.
01:51:49.000 Everywhere it's gone, right?
01:51:50.000 It's worked and it's good for the economy. 0.99
01:51:52.000 The best shit is when we get the people in Iowa high. 0.99
01:51:56.000 That's going to make the world a way better place. 1.00
01:51:58.000 All those tense dudes who are out there deer hunting.
01:52:01.000 Get those guys high.
01:52:03.000 It's a perspective-enhancing moment.
01:52:07.000 That's what's going on here, folks.
01:52:09.000 Do I mean that everybody needs to get high?
01:52:11.000 No, I don't really mean that everyone needs to get high.
01:52:14.000 You don't.
01:52:14.000 If you're a happy person the way you are, keep on keeping on, son.
01:52:18.000 But the idea that people can't benefit from something that people have clearly benefited from, not just benefited from, but have stated over and over again that they've benefited from it.
01:52:30.000 You don't hear that about a lot of other drugs.
01:52:32.000 This is a great drug.
01:52:34.000 I benefit from several different drugs.
01:52:39.000 Like caffeine.
01:52:40.000 I benefit from caffeine.
01:52:41.000 We don't like to think of it as a drug, but that's a drug.
01:52:43.000 It's an absolute drug, and I like it.
01:52:45.000 I love coffee.
01:52:47.000 Marijuana is a very beneficial drug.
01:52:49.000 There's a lot of great aspects to it.
01:52:50.000 Can it be abused?
01:52:51.000 Of course.
01:52:52.000 Everything can be abused.
01:52:54.000 Every single thing.
01:52:55.000 Food can be abused.
01:52:56.000 But as grown-ups, that should be a choice that you can make, right?
01:53:00.000 It's just about being a disciplined grown-up.
01:53:02.000 I mean, I stopped smoking like...
01:53:04.000 I haven't had any marijuana in over 10 years now, but it just wasn't working out for me personally.
01:53:11.000 But that doesn't mean, again, I'm still very pro, as I think everyone should try, or it's positive to try all these things.
01:53:19.000 Yeah.
01:53:19.000 Yeah, and the idea that everyone is going to respond exactly the same way to any given substance, whether it's aspirin or marijuana.
01:53:27.000 I mean, there's a reason why some people are allergic to some things and other people enjoy, like shrimp. 0.98
01:53:32.000 Some people eat shrimp and they'll get sick as fuck. 0.98
01:53:34.000 I love shrimp. 1.00
01:53:35.000 It's delicious.
01:53:36.000 Make it illegal.
01:53:37.000 It's dangerous.
01:53:37.000 They don't have to make it illegal.
01:53:39.000 I mean, there's a good percentage of the population that's allergic to shellfish.
01:53:43.000 It's a fairly common allergy.
01:53:44.000 Yeah.
01:53:45.000 And if they had chosen the same sort of ideas that they have on like marijuana addiction, this is one that they love to throw around, marijuana addiction.
01:53:53.000 I would like to put marijuana addiction next to shellfish allergy and see which one is more common. 0.98
01:53:58.000 Because I bet shellfish allergy is way more fucking common than marijuana. 0.89
01:54:03.000 And so the idea of making it illegal because one tiny percentage of the population gets physically addicted to it. 0.96
01:54:10.000 Well, I don't know what's going on in their body.
01:54:12.000 They might be physically addicted.
01:54:14.000 But for me, I know I can stop and not have weed for weeks and I don't feel any physical pain.
01:54:22.000 Nothing.
01:54:22.000 Crazy.
01:54:23.000 I've taken two weeks off and had nothing.
01:54:26.000 Not felt a thing.
01:54:27.000 Not an urge.
01:54:29.000 Not just a living life.
01:54:30.000 There's no want.
01:54:31.000 There's no itch that you can't scratch.
01:54:34.000 Yeah.
01:54:35.000 It's weird that we have these arbitrary decisions that get made a long time ago and that they stick just because someone wrote them somewhere.
01:54:45.000 We're so goofy like that.
01:54:46.000 It's protecting against addictive personalities, I guess, or physical addiction, but people will have that for anything. 0.52
01:54:53.000 Did you see the New York Times said that, you know, they did a New York Times editorial saying that marijuana should be decriminalized?
01:54:59.000 Oh, really?
01:54:59.000 Nationwide.
01:55:00.000 And the government had a response to the New York Times that was so goofy. 0.99
01:55:04.000 And it included all this shit about children, about affecting the brains of children. 1.00
01:55:09.000 Like, no one's saying give pot to fucking children. 1.00
01:55:12.000 Did you even listen? 1.00
01:55:13.000 They didn't even read the editorial.
01:55:14.000 The editorial's about adults, informed adults should be allowed to smoke marijuana.
01:55:20.000 And the government's thing, like the response was all about kids. 0.96
01:55:24.000 It's like you goofy fake babysitters. 0.99
01:55:26.000 You don't give a fuck about kids. 0.99
01:55:27.000 You guys aren't in the hood. 1.00
01:55:29.000 You guys aren't in the hood saving babies. 1.00
01:55:30.000 Fuck off. 1.00
01:55:32.000 You're not looking after kids. 1.00
01:55:34.000 It's not hurting kids.
01:55:35.000 Stop it.
01:55:36.000 No one's saying kids should go get high.
01:55:38.000 Jesus Christ. 0.98
01:55:39.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00
01:55:40.000 Goofy fucks. 1.00
01:55:41.000 But that's the kind of people that are responsible. 0.99
01:55:44.000 That's the kind of people that are responsible for our laws. 0.99
01:55:47.000 But who's saving the kids from shellfish?
01:55:49.000 Who's out there fighting that battle?
01:55:53.000 Peanuts are a big one, man.
01:55:55.000 Nuts-free schools.
01:55:57.000 My daughter goes to a nut-free school.
01:56:01.000 Why do they still have nuts on airplanes? 0.75
01:56:03.000 Like, they still do it.
01:56:05.000 Why wouldn't they just switch to Cheez-Its or something?
01:56:07.000 Like, why is it nuts anyways?
01:56:09.000 It's a good question.
01:56:10.000 Nuts are delicious.
01:56:10.000 Is there something with nuts and flies?
01:56:11.000 There's tons of things like that, though.
01:56:13.000 Like the realization...
01:56:14.000 Making me want nuts.
01:56:14.000 I can't remember.
01:56:15.000 Come over here, boy.
01:56:16.000 A comedian was talking about how come when epilepsy came about, we didn't go, all right, we don't need strobe lights then.
01:56:25.000 Strobe lights aren't a necessary...
01:56:26.000 Oh, that could kill you.
01:56:27.000 Send you into a fit. 1.00
01:56:28.000 Let's get rid of them.
01:56:29.000 That's fine.
01:56:29.000 They're not necessarily like, no, we need to party with strobe lights.
01:56:34.000 My friend Jim, his wife would black out.
01:56:35.000 She would see one of those animated GIFs online.
01:56:38.000 Just put them somewhere else. 0.99
01:56:40.000 I thought he was fucking around. 0.98
01:56:42.000 Do you remember that guy, Jim, from the message board? 0.99
01:56:44.000 He put some warning up, saying, hey, you guys take down these fucking strobes. 0.97
01:56:51.000 And then, of course, everybody changed their avatar to a strobe. 1.00
01:56:54.000 Like, fuck off. 1.00
01:56:55.000 Of course they did. 1.00
01:56:56.000 Maybe just shut off avatars instead of killing the party.
01:56:59.000 If you didn't know that you were going to see something and if you saw it, it would black you out, you'd have to be really careful about your viewing habits.
01:57:09.000 There we go.
01:57:11.000 Don't do that.
01:57:12.000 Too many people die.
01:57:14.000 You shouldn't do that, man. 1.00
01:57:15.000 That's rude as fuck. 1.00
01:57:17.000 That's going to bring the aliens back if you do that. 1.00
01:57:20.000 Yeah, right.
01:57:21.000 They're going to come back and land.
01:57:22.000 It's a secret signal.
01:57:24.000 There were some radio signals they just found in the galaxy recently.
01:57:28.000 Fascinating.
01:57:28.000 New radio signals found in the galaxy.
01:57:31.000 And people are speculating as to whether or not it's aliens.
01:57:38.000 What's it sound like?
01:57:38.000 Does it sound like static?
01:57:39.000 I don't think it's like a sound.
01:57:41.000 I think it's like a signal.
01:57:44.000 Radio waves emitted from nearby galaxy.
01:57:46.000 Wow. 0.99
01:57:47.000 Yeah, that's interesting shit, man. 0.99
01:57:49.000 July 10th. 0.99
01:57:50.000 Mysterious signal from a galaxy far, far away.
01:57:54.000 Brief pulse detected by the Arecibo telescope appears to come from far beyond our galaxy.
01:57:59.000 Could be caused by evaporating black holes or mergers of neutron stars.
01:58:04.000 Or aliens.
01:58:07.000 Could be aliens.
01:58:08.000 Could it be aliens?
01:58:09.000 Yes.
01:58:10.000 There's a chance.
01:58:11.000 They could be trying to reach us.
01:58:13.000 It could be a chance.
01:58:14.000 Did you see that video that somebody shared it to me on Twitter where they can take sound waves off video of like a plant and Like map it out and it will recreate what the sound was when that video is recorded.
01:58:29.000 Yeah, well they can use a Doritos bag.
01:58:31.000 Yeah, Doritos bag.
01:58:32.000 You saw that video.
01:58:33.000 That was nuts.
01:58:34.000 Incredible.
01:58:35.000 So if you're in a room and say like you're talking and you have like a Doritos bag there, like a light piece of paper, they can focus on that and the impact of your voice on that Doritos bag, they can detect what you were saying.
01:58:50.000 They can detect the sounds. 0.99
01:58:53.000 Damn. 0.99
01:58:53.000 Let's see if I can find that video. 0.99
01:58:55.000 That is the mind blower of the week's mind blowers.
01:58:58.000 We were getting excited about cameras earlier. 0.99
01:59:01.000 That's fucking insane. 1.00
01:59:02.000 How much smarter are those people than me? 1.00
01:59:05.000 They're so much smarter.
01:59:07.000 That's not even a human.
01:59:09.000 Anybody that can figure that out, when I think about my potential for figuring things out and their potential for figuring things out, The tools that they have, the steps that they are ahead, I could live a hundred lives and never even catch up to where they are.
01:59:25.000 Never even get close.
01:59:26.000 It's amazing.
01:59:28.000 When people want to pretend that all people are created equal, why don't you pay attention? 0.99
01:59:32.000 There's some motherfuckers out there that are getting sound off Doritos bags. 1.00
01:59:36.000 And guess what, fuckface? 1.00
01:59:37.000 They're smarter than you. 1.00
01:59:38.000 Their brains work better.
01:59:40.000 The results of this video are the best experience through headphones.
01:59:44.000 When sound hits an object, it causes that object to vibrate.
01:59:47.000 The motion of this vibration creates a subtle visual signal that's usually invisible to the naked eye.
01:59:53.000 In our work, we show how using only a video of the object and a suitable processing algorithm, we can extract these minute vibrations and partially recover the sounds that produced them, letting us turn everyday visible objects into visual microphones.
02:00:10.000 In the silent high-speed video shown here on the left, we see the leaves of a potted plant shown on the right.
02:00:16.000 The video was recorded while a nearby loudspeaker played the notes to Mary had a little lamb.
02:00:25.000 Oh my god.
02:00:26.000 So now what they're gonna do, they record it with the sound and they're gonna play it back using- Even when we play the video in slow motion here, the vibrations caused by the music are so subtle that they move the plants leaves by less than a hundredth of a pixel, making the plant appear still to the naked eye.
02:00:43.000 But by combining and filtering all the tiny motion happening across the image that you see, we are able to recover this sound.
02:00:53.000 Oh my god.
02:00:55.000 That's crazy.
02:00:57.000 So in the future we're going to be able to take old video and find out what we're really talking about with JFK or something.
02:01:02.000 Oh my god.
02:01:05.000 Oh my god.
02:01:08.000 That's insane.
02:01:10.000 That's crazy.
02:01:10.000 We recovered live human speech from high speed video of a bag of chips lying on the ground.
02:01:15.000 But to make things a little more challenging, this time we put the camera outside, behind a soundproof window.
02:01:22.000 This is what a cell phone was able to record from inside, next to the bag of chips.
02:01:33.000 And this is what we were able to recover from high-speed video, filmed from outside, behind soundproof glass.
02:01:55.000 That's haunting.
02:01:57.000 Oh my god. 0.96
02:01:58.000 That's ridiculous, right? 0.99
02:02:00.000 That's amazing.
02:02:01.000 What that's going to happen is we're going to be able to take old home movies, especially like the 8mm kind that's like no sound that you used to have in the 70s.
02:02:08.000 We're going to be able to eventually probably take that and actually recreate the sound of everything that was going on.
02:02:15.000 Well, how could that be possible?
02:02:15.000 No, but it's not filmed at the same resolution.
02:02:19.000 Well, as an example, they're going to show it now at a very lower resolution at this part of the video.
02:02:25.000 And this is early on, so I think in the future they're going to be able to get it to the point of being able to do that.
02:02:30.000 Because here's what they can do with just a typical camera.
02:02:34.000 Like a laptop?
02:02:36.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:02:36.000 Whoa.
02:02:38.000 Which can record thousands of frames in most consumer cameras.
02:02:41.000 Here we go.
02:02:42.000 We can sometimes actually recover sound at frequencies several times higher than the frame rate of our video, letting us recover audio from video captured on regular consumer cameras.
02:02:52.000 Whoa! 0.71
02:02:53.000 Here we see a 60 frames per second video of a bag of candy captured on a regular consumer DSLR while our Mary had a little land music played through a nearby loudspeaker.
02:03:03.000 I love this tune.
02:03:05.000 Yeah, right?
02:03:08.000 And 60 frames is like half the speed that like the iPhone can do.
02:03:12.000 Wow. 0.98
02:03:14.000 That's in fucking sane, man. 0.99
02:03:18.000 This is so strange. 0.98
02:03:20.000 By using a variation of our technique on the rows of the recorded video, we were able to recover this audio, which includes frequencies more than five times higher than the frame rate of our camera.
02:03:37.000 So yeah.
02:03:38.000 Wow.
02:03:39.000 Expect new crazy ghosts in the future from the past.
02:03:42.000 What a weird, weird world we live in, man.
02:03:46.000 What a weird world.
02:03:49.000 That someone can figure that out.
02:03:53.000 That someone can try to figure that out in the first place is just insane.
02:03:57.000 Just the actual thing of having the idea and perception of thinking of that is just...
02:04:02.000 Yeah.
02:04:03.000 Yeah, that's a real game changer, right?
02:04:06.000 Wow.
02:04:07.000 So humbling.
02:04:09.000 Yeah.
02:04:10.000 I really feel, when I see something like that, that we're very fortunate in the time that we live that we're going to get to see these things.
02:04:19.000 That we're a part of this insane moment in history where things are becoming so complicated so quickly, so powerful so quickly.
02:04:28.000 The impact of them, the impact of people's words, it's incredible.
02:04:33.000 Never been in time like this, man.
02:04:34.000 It's amazing.
02:04:35.000 The speed of it all is insane. 0.99
02:04:36.000 The speed we went from the invention of the internet, which is putting everyone in the world in touch with everyone else, and then the speed we went from that to turning it into something that we just look at tits on and tweet people and talk shit. 0.97
02:04:52.000 The speed which we've just become comfortable with is amazing...
02:04:56.000 Piece of technology that we should be using to find out amazing things constantly, but 90% of the time, we've got so comfortable with it because it's just on your phone now.
02:05:04.000 It's not this great jump in technology.
02:05:07.000 Well, we take it for granted while it's doing its work.
02:05:10.000 And it's doing its work, and its work is connecting all of us.
02:05:13.000 I mean, we're connected in some really bizarre ways now, man.
02:05:19.000 That's uh, I mean what we're seeing on this the screen we're watching this video.
02:05:23.000 That's a Fascinating new thing an amazing new thing But it's probably one of like a million new things that are coming out that are gonna freak us the fuck out You know all this stuff is essentially magic It's crazy how they'll freak us out for like a minute.
02:05:38.000 And then it would just be regular and then it's just fine.
02:05:41.000 Then it's going to be an app. 0.99
02:05:42.000 That shit will be an app on your phone in two years. 0.99
02:05:45.000 Completely. 0.99
02:05:45.000 It's creating time travel but using it like a weird like old VCR type kind of technology where we're going to be recreating everything that's ever happened. 0.99
02:05:54.000 God, that's so crazy.
02:05:55.000 Based on tree DNA or something.
02:05:57.000 So weird, man.
02:05:58.000 Yeah, you're going to be Be able to watch an outdoor video and stare at the trees and listen to the actual voices that the people were saying while they were near those trees.
02:06:09.000 Well, not only that, they'll probably be able to do things digitally to change the resolution of things.
02:06:14.000 Probably some sort of an algorithm where they'll be able to analyze each individual pixel and enhance in post the camera's reaction to the image and change it and enhance it.
02:06:29.000 I love the idea that this technology could come about, though, but the foible of it would be they have to be near a plant or a Doritos packet.
02:06:40.000 We've had these great moments in history, but it wasn't next to a plant. 0.98
02:06:45.000 Fuck, we'll never know what Jack can say. 0.98
02:06:48.000 Where would a safe place be? 1.00
02:06:49.000 Would it be underwater?
02:06:51.000 Or would it?
02:06:51.000 No, would it?
02:06:53.000 Imagine if they figured out a way.
02:06:54.000 That would be worse.
02:06:56.000 Imagine if they figured out a way to...
02:06:58.000 I'm going to watch what I say around Doritos packets from now on, though.
02:07:01.000 I don't want to...
02:07:03.000 In case I'm picked up. 1.00
02:07:04.000 No shit, man. 1.00
02:07:05.000 Stay away from Doritos. 0.99
02:07:07.000 Imagine if they figure out a way to recreate old historical videos and actually make them, like a part of the Oculus Rift, make them like super high resolution, calculate them based on all that, like say if they took the Kennedy assassination.
02:07:23.000 And they calculated it on all known photographs of the area.
02:07:27.000 They did a very comprehensive analysis.
02:07:30.000 They, in detail, every photo of Kennedy's face ever taken, every photo of Jackie O ever taken, every inch of one of those crazy limousines that Kennedy was driving in, the convertible limousines, every inch of it.
02:07:42.000 And then they put you in a virtual reality where you're at the scene.
02:07:47.000 And you got to watch the Zapruder film play out.
02:07:49.000 Like, right there.
02:07:51.000 Like, you're there.
02:07:52.000 You're looking at Zapruder holding the camera.
02:07:54.000 And, you know, you can move around on it.
02:07:56.000 I mean...
02:07:57.000 And it sounds like this...
02:07:58.000 You know, like, because the sound's from reflections of, like...
02:08:05.000 Yeah, they'll figure out a way to...
02:08:07.000 Yeah, you'll...
02:08:08.000 I wonder if you'll ever be able to accurately, like, replay the voices.
02:08:13.000 Yeah.
02:08:15.000 Huh.
02:08:15.000 But the recreations of historical events in three dimension in virtual reality is inevitable.
02:08:21.000 Like, I mean, if people are making paintings of Nixon, they're definitely going to make like a virtual reality scenario where he gets shot at the theater.
02:08:29.000 Yeah.
02:08:29.000 You get to see John Wilkes Booth sneak up behind him and shoot him.
02:08:32.000 They're going to have that.
02:08:33.000 Yeah.
02:08:34.000 Yeah, historical events.
02:08:35.000 Any known historical events, you know?
02:08:38.000 I'm writing a story or song or whatever at the moment about a guy that gets a chance, meets some kind of god or whatever, but gets told you can have one truth and you've got to pick everything throughout history.
02:08:51.000 Like, you could pick to know what happened with JFK or to know if Jesus was real or whatever.
02:08:58.000 and just what what would that one I mean in this story he ends up going through all of that and then asking if his girlfriend cheated on him because that's the reality that's the reality that's the truth that you'd ask and need to know but what what the fuck would you it's weird because jfk is one that i always come to and i'm not american i've got no i think it's just because it's such a conspiracy theory that i want to know the actual truth yeah amazing I think the actual truth would be interesting,
02:09:25.000 but I'm pretty convinced of a conspiracy when it came to JFK. I've seen the evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, and one of the things that I don't find compelling is that there was obviously some, the Warren Commission had a predetermined We're good to go.
02:10:10.000 It was done by Orrin Hatch.
02:10:12.000 He's a...
02:10:13.000 Was it Orrin Hatch?
02:10:16.000 I think it was.
02:10:16.000 Single Bullet Theory?
02:10:17.000 I want to say it was him. 1.00
02:10:18.000 It was one of those fucking weirdos from the... 0.99
02:10:25.000 Remember when Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas? 0.99
02:10:28.000 Do you know who Anita Hill is? 0.65
02:10:31.000 Clarence Thomas is a Supreme Court Justice.
02:10:34.000 When they were trying to appoint him, there was this crazy story that came out. 0.99
02:10:40.000 He told this woman, Anita Hill, this really sexy black chick, he told her that there's a pubic hair and her coke. 1.00
02:10:46.000 Remember that? 0.99
02:10:47.000 Yeah.
02:10:47.000 Did you ever find out Coke, like sales went up during that time?
02:10:51.000 Or was it like Pepsi sales?
02:10:52.000 I bet that'd be fascinating.
02:10:54.000 I wonder, right?
02:10:56.000 Yeah.
02:10:56.000 You know, pubic hair makes me want to buy Pepsi.
02:10:58.000 Arlen Specter.
02:10:59.000 Sorry, that's who he was.
02:11:00.000 It wasn't Orrin Hatch.
02:11:02.000 It was Arlen Specter.
02:11:03.000 But I think Orrin Hatch was involved in it as well.
02:11:06.000 But Arlen Specter was just like this known creeper.
02:11:10.000 He was just one of those guys that had been around.
02:11:13.000 He was a Democrat, switched to a Republican, then switched back to Democrat. 1.00
02:11:18.000 He was just a shifty fucking character. 1.00
02:11:20.000 And he was the one who came up with the single bullet theory. 1.00
02:11:23.000 He was the guy.
02:11:24.000 It was his idea. 1.00
02:11:24.000 Why would you say one bullet just went fucking nutty? 1.00
02:11:27.000 It's crazy that they would even consider trying shit like that on something that's clearly the biggest case. 0.99
02:11:37.000 Do you know what I mean? 0.97
02:11:37.000 It's going to be the most scrutinised thing. 0.97
02:11:40.000 It's equally insane that they would think, yeah, that'll do.
02:11:45.000 We'll tell the people that...
02:11:47.000 But it did work.
02:11:47.000 I mean, there's people that argue it today, so they were right.
02:11:50.000 Whether or not they were right or not, I'm not sure, but they were right that people would accept the fact that this one bullet did all the damage.
02:11:57.000 I mean, it's so preposterous in so many different ways.
02:12:00.000 I have conversations with people, but you can't deny the actual bullet's dimensions itself.
02:12:06.000 The bullet itself was in pristine condition.
02:12:09.000 People hate this conversation because it's been done so many times before.
02:12:12.000 But there's also fragments of it that was left in the body, the body of Connelly especially, where they weren't accounted for.
02:12:19.000 They weren't missing for the bullet they found on the gurney.
02:12:20.000 That wasn't the bullet that did all that.
02:12:22.000 It just wasn't.
02:12:23.000 It's not a bullet that shattered bone. 0.97
02:12:25.000 It just wasn't fucked up enough. 0.96
02:12:27.000 It doesn't make any sense. 0.98
02:12:28.000 Much more likely, since it was found on the gurney at the hospital...
02:12:31.000 Somebody placed it there.
02:12:32.000 And to pretend that people wouldn't place it there is preposterous.
02:12:36.000 You find a pristine bullet on a gurney, on Governor Colley's gurney in the hospital.
02:12:41.000 Do you assume that someone placed it or do you assume that this is a bullet that went through two people and just happened to wind up on a gurney?
02:12:48.000 Well, either one of those is true.
02:12:50.000 Or either one of those is possible, rather.
02:12:53.000 To say that you absolutely know that that's the single bullet, and this is the reason why.
02:12:58.000 No, it easily could be placed there.
02:13:00.000 And if it was placed there, your whole theory of one bullet doing that thing, well, you have no bullet.
02:13:05.000 Where's the bullet that did all this?
02:13:07.000 What does it look like now?
02:13:08.000 Well, it looks, I don't know, something.
02:13:11.000 You don't know.
02:13:11.000 So because, like, finding the bullet was the only reason why people were willing to believe that one bullet did all this damage.
02:13:19.000 Which is really ridiculous, because you would think that would be contrary.
02:13:22.000 Because, like, this is a bullet that was, like, shot into a swimming pool or something. 0.99
02:13:25.000 It doesn't look fucked up at all. 0.98
02:13:26.000 Yeah. 0.98
02:13:27.000 I don't know, man.
02:13:28.000 The either-or thing is a problem as well, because everybody wants to say, Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.
02:13:33.000 No, he didn't.
02:13:33.000 It was a conspiracy.
02:13:34.000 Could be Lee Harvey Oswald was a part of the conspiracy.
02:13:38.000 That's possible, too.
02:13:40.000 He could have been their patsy, like he said I was a patsy, but he also could have been involved in it, which would account for the slaying of the officer, like a police officer was shot, and they attributed that to Lee Harvey Oswald. 1.00
02:13:51.000 He might have shot a cop because he was a guilty fuck. 0.99
02:13:53.000 He might have been one of the gunmen. 1.00
02:13:56.000 There might have been several gunmen.
02:13:57.000 They might have just had that guy set up as a patsy from the jump because he had a wife that was Russian, he was from Russia.
02:14:05.000 Either way, they killed Kennedy.
02:14:08.000 I wouldn't go back to see that.
02:14:11.000 I'd go back to Roswell. 0.99
02:14:13.000 I'd want to see if a UFO crashed or if it was just a fucking air balloon. 0.99
02:14:18.000 A hot air balloon. 0.99
02:14:21.000 That one feels to me like it could potentially have the most disappointing outcome.
02:14:27.000 Yes.
02:14:28.000 I'm looking forward to being disappointed. 1.00
02:14:30.000 That you do this and then go, oh fuck, it was an air balloon. 0.99
02:14:32.000 I want to confirm my suspicions. 0.99
02:14:34.000 And my suspicions are, like, this is my suspicions when it comes to UFOs.
02:14:39.000 This is the big one. 1.00
02:14:40.000 I think that people are full of shit. 1.00
02:14:42.000 I think that there's enough full of shit people to account for some really good stories about UFOs. 1.00
02:14:48.000 Has anybody ever experienced an actual UFO from another planet? 0.99
02:14:51.000 It is absolutely possible.
02:14:53.000 That's not what I'm saying.
02:14:54.000 I'm not discounting.
02:14:55.000 If you're the one person out there that actually has a real unique experience with a UFO and you're not crazy, I'm not discounting you.
02:15:01.000 But what I'm saying is, when I look at all the evidence, like the Roswell and all these different stories and all these different crash stories... 0.96
02:15:07.000 People are so full of shit that it's much more likely knowing the small number of these things that actually get reported. 0.98
02:15:15.000 People say thousands of sightings every year. 1.00
02:15:17.000 There's 350 million people in this country.
02:15:22.000 If you only get thousands of sightings every year, what are the odds of those people being crackpots?
02:15:27.000 100%?
02:15:27.000 It might be 100%.
02:15:29.000 If it's not 100, it's 99.99999.
02:15:32.000 It's too crazy.
02:15:32.000 It never happens to a really regular And we must account for the number of crazy people that we have, that we've counted.
02:15:42.000 There's a lot of them. 1.00
02:15:44.000 So if people are just having these episodes where they start telling you about UFO abductions and seeing ships that are invisible and move faster than time, it's also possible they're crazy and full of shit. 1.00
02:15:57.000 That's... 1.00
02:15:59.000 So I would love to go back. 0.98
02:16:00.000 And if I went back to Roswell and I found an actual UFO, I would fucking change my tune. 0.81
02:16:04.000 But if I went back to Roswell and I just saw a bunch of people standing around a weather balloon...
02:16:09.000 It's good that your one isn't going back to...
02:16:13.000 It's going back to...
02:16:15.000 To disprove something rather than witness this is what happened.
02:16:19.000 It's like, no, this didn't happen. 1.00
02:16:20.000 Fuck that shit. 1.00
02:16:22.000 Absolute bullshit. 1.00
02:16:22.000 You can't come up with any of this anymore. 1.00
02:16:25.000 Well, I think I would like to be open-minded.
02:16:28.000 Like, look, no one would like it more than me if I went back and I actually saw a spaceship from another planet.
02:16:33.000 Like, if you go to Area 51 and they could take you to the Bob Lazar place where they have this fucking gigantic hangar and you go inside and you see an actual alien UFO. Holy shit, I would love that. 0.98
02:16:45.000 But it's way more likely to me that you get there and you see a bunch of remote control shit that the government's been working on, and you see some aircraft technology that led to the stealth bomber, which they know they built out of there. 0.99
02:16:58.000 That's more likely what the UFOs are. 0.58
02:17:01.000 Yeah, that makes more sense.
02:17:03.000 Yeah, although it's back-engineering alien technology.
02:17:06.000 Well, I don't see a lot of evidence of that. 0.97
02:17:10.000 That seems like you're discounting human ingenuity, which is obviously fucking amazing. 0.94
02:17:15.000 Yeah. 0.94
02:17:15.000 Like, look at this sound thing. 0.94
02:17:17.000 That's exactly how it's going to say.
02:17:18.000 What we're looking at already is that back-engineered from aliens who want to see what we're saying at distance.
02:17:25.000 So I think you're dealing with a lot of dull-minded people that can't even comprehend the intelligence level of the people that can conceive something like a stealth bomber.
02:17:36.000 So they're seeing this technology arising, they're attributing it to back-engineering UFOs, when it really could just be people that are so smart, so much smarter than them, they're not even the same species, essentially. 0.99
02:17:51.000 They're just super fucking smart and they figured out a gang of shit. 0.99
02:17:54.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:17:55.000 That's way more likely.
02:17:56.000 Yeah, completely.
02:17:57.000 So the people who work for the government that have made it are aliens, essentially.
02:18:03.000 In a way?
02:18:04.000 They're that much further advanced than us.
02:18:07.000 That's the proof of aliens.
02:18:09.000 Stephen Hawking.
02:18:10.000 Tell me he's not an alien.
02:18:11.000 Yeah.
02:18:12.000 He's an alien.
02:18:13.000 What is it?
02:18:14.000 He's a computer voice, right?
02:18:16.000 Yeah.
02:18:17.000 And he has a brain that's connected very loosely, biologically, to some movements that control a computer.
02:18:24.000 It's essentially a brain directly interfacing with the computer through fingers.
02:18:27.000 He's textbook alien.
02:18:28.000 He's a classic alien right there.
02:18:30.000 And he warns us about aliens.
02:18:33.000 He's warning us about him.
02:18:35.000 He's covering his own tracks.
02:18:36.000 He's trying to hide it in plain sight.
02:18:39.000 Right in front of us, pretending he can't move, and waiting.
02:18:42.000 And then he'll open up like the thing. 1.00
02:18:44.000 It'll be a fucking mouth and chomp down someone's head. 1.00
02:18:47.000 But in a sense... 1.00
02:18:48.000 Petrifying.
02:18:49.000 In a sense, he's an alien in that he's something that we can't even imagine.
02:18:56.000 We can't even imagine what's going on inside of his mind. 0.96
02:18:59.000 He's so goddamn smart. 0.99
02:19:01.000 He's so advanced that his concepts and the levels that he's operating on and thinking on might as well be alien to some guy who works at Krispy Kreme and keeps fucking up and doesn't figure out which button to press. 0.99
02:19:13.000 You know? 0.95
02:19:13.000 Shouldn't say Krispy Kreme. 0.95
02:19:14.000 It's a wonderful establishment.
02:19:15.000 Makes fine donuts.
02:19:16.000 What's the deal with the line for that, though?
02:19:18.000 They're delicious.
02:19:19.000 There's like 30 car deep in Burbank.
02:19:21.000 Every time I drive by, I'm like, one day I'd like to try it. 0.98
02:19:24.000 It's not because they suck. 1.00
02:19:25.000 The Burbank one is the shit, dude, because it's 24 hours a day. 1.00
02:19:28.000 You need to do is come home from a comedy club some night. 1.00
02:19:31.000 I've done that coming home from the Ice House.
02:19:33.000 Stop off, get some Krispy Kreme.
02:19:35.000 Gotcha!
02:19:36.000 It's like one in the morning and there's a line of 30 people.
02:19:38.000 Gluten free.
02:19:40.000 Not.
02:19:41.000 No gluten-free. 1.00
02:19:43.000 Get the fuck out of here, bitch. 1.00
02:19:44.000 You're getting full sugar. 1.00
02:19:46.000 It's going to go right to your arteries. 1.00
02:19:47.000 You're going to feel like shit for hours after you eat it. 0.96
02:19:49.000 But for the mouth pleasure that you get for that minute or so where you're eating one of those, it's worth it. 0.99
02:19:54.000 It's worth those hours easily. 1.00
02:19:55.000 Yeah, don't be a pussy. 1.00
02:19:57.000 What do you think is going on with this Ferguson thing? 1.00
02:19:59.000 Because I'm looking at it now, like they just arrested the HuffPRO reporters, the arresting reporters.
02:20:05.000 They're going into McDonald's and going, everyone needs to leave, like employees.
02:20:08.000 Why?
02:20:09.000 Wait a minute.
02:20:09.000 HuffPRO, why are they arresting?
02:20:12.000 You know who to follow is Wesley Lowry.
02:20:15.000 It's W-E-S-L-E-Y-L-O-W-E-R-Y. He writes for, I think, the Washington Post...
02:20:23.000 He's formerly of the Boston Globe and the LA Times.
02:20:25.000 Huffington Post reporter arrested in Ferguson.
02:20:28.000 Yeah, it says Ryan J. Ryan.
02:20:33.000 Oh, Ryan J. Riley, rather. 0.99
02:20:35.000 This is fucking crazy. 0.97
02:20:37.000 Ryan J. Riley and the Washington Post's Wesley Lowry were arrested Wednesday while covering the protests in Ferguson, Missouri surrounding the death of Of unarmed African-American teenager Michael Brown, who was shot to death by a police officer last week. 0.99
02:20:53.000 Riley tweeted that around 8 p.m., the SWAT officers invaded the McDonald's at which he was working, requested information after he took a photo of them.
02:21:02.000 Lowry was also working at the fast food restaurant.
02:21:06.000 Whoa! 0.71
02:21:07.000 Wait a minute.
02:21:07.000 How are Huffington Post reporters arrested?
02:21:11.000 Oh, HuffPost caused the Ferguson status of Riley after tweets that he had been arrested.
02:21:18.000 The person who picked up the phone identified himself as George, said he couldn't give any information at this time.
02:21:22.000 So who got arrested?
02:21:23.000 I'm confused here.
02:21:25.000 Reporter for the West...
02:21:26.000 Yes.
02:21:28.000 Los Angeles Times reporter Matt Pierce talked to the police department.
02:21:33.000 And this guy used to work for the Boston Globe.
02:21:35.000 And look, officers slammed me into a fountain soda machine because I was confused at which door they were asking me to walk out.
02:21:41.000 And this is a reporter that was waiting to be taken away.
02:21:45.000 Large black man screaming for help in the back of a police truck.
02:21:47.000 Whoa. 0.82
02:21:49.000 I'm dying.
02:21:49.000 I'm dying.
02:21:49.000 Please call.
02:21:50.000 He screamed.
02:21:52.000 Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out which Huffington Post guy got arrested.
02:21:57.000 Also, Ryan Reilly of HuffPro assaulted and arrested.
02:22:01.000 Wow.
02:22:03.000 So those guys...
02:22:04.000 So who...
02:22:04.000 Why did it say that they...
02:22:05.000 Oh, I get it.
02:22:06.000 I'm sorry.
02:22:07.000 They were working on their laptops at McDonald's.
02:22:11.000 That's how they were working for McDonald's.
02:22:13.000 Yeah, right.
02:22:14.000 Oh, wow.
02:22:15.000 So they came in while they were working and they asked for their ID and when they took a photo. 0.99
02:22:21.000 Holy shit. 0.99
02:22:23.000 Like, that's, like, beyond overstepping bounds. 1.00
02:22:26.000 There was also a video that someone put up online of some people filming cops, and the cop points the gun on them and tells them to get the fuck out of here. 0.61
02:22:33.000 And they all start screaming. 1.00
02:22:34.000 It's really crazy shit. 1.00
02:22:35.000 Like, the cop says, get the fuck out of here! 1.00
02:22:37.000 And he points the gun at them. 1.00
02:22:39.000 You know, it's some dark shit, man. 1.00
02:22:45.000 This is all what everyone was terrified of when that Occupy Wall Street shit was going on. 1.00
02:22:54.000 What they were worried most is that at one point in time, the United States is going to have something that just wakes people up to shit like this, and they actually start rioting. 0.99
02:23:06.000 And that's a terrifying thing for police. 0.98
02:23:09.000 It's a terrifying thing for law enforcement, for any form of government.
02:23:15.000 When you have this happen, these types of things, they build momentum.
02:23:22.000 It gets real scary when people feel like the police is doing them wrong and there's a battle between people and the police.
02:23:30.000 They start shooting rubber bullets at crowds like they're doing here.
02:23:33.000 They're just hitting random people in the crowds, trying to disperse them.
02:23:36.000 You can't do that, man. 1.00
02:23:37.000 This is dangerous shit. 1.00
02:23:39.000 This is how people get overthrown. 1.00
02:23:41.000 Here's a picture from it.
02:23:43.000 You know, the Shah of Iran got overthrown.
02:23:47.000 One of the reasons why they rose up against him is because he was starting to say that they were going to attack people if they were in any sort of formation.
02:23:55.000 If more than two or three people were together and they formed any sort of a group, they were going to arrest them all, shoot them on sight.
02:24:01.000 And the next day there was like two million people.
02:24:03.000 There's got to be a breaking point in all those things of going, right, we can't...
02:24:08.000 Yeah.
02:24:08.000 Yeah.
02:24:09.000 It's just tough because there's always going to be a load of smaller breaking points along the way that don't cause the change but cause a lot of bad, bad results and actions.
02:24:22.000 Crazy that they feel like they can just arrest people that are in McDonald's.
02:24:26.000 Like, are you protecting or serving when you're doing that?
02:24:28.000 Which one?
02:24:29.000 What are you doing?
02:24:30.000 Guys are in McDonald's, they're reporters, and you're allowed to just come in and disturb them? 0.98
02:24:36.000 Because you think, what, they took a photo of some crazy shit that's going down and you don't want it being released? 0.98
02:24:40.000 Is this protocol? 0.98
02:24:41.000 Are you following, like, is this in your book of what you're supposed to do?
02:24:45.000 Look, they were arrested for not packing their bags quick enough.
02:24:50.000 Wow.
02:24:51.000 That's insanity.
02:24:51.000 That's hilarious.
02:24:53.000 They can just decide to come into McDonald's and kick everybody else out. 0.95
02:24:56.000 Meanwhile, the streets are flooded with people.
02:24:57.000 That's so strange, man.
02:24:59.000 Why were they kicking everyone out of McDonald's anyway?
02:25:02.000 Yeah.
02:25:02.000 Is that...
02:25:03.000 I don't know.
02:25:03.000 McDonald's is property.
02:25:05.000 I think when shit hits the fan, when you have a situation like this and people from the police and civilians are fighting, it's like things get real hairy. 0.98
02:25:14.000 And there's a lot of huge, huge, huge mistakes that get made. 0.99
02:25:18.000 And there's a lot of stress and a lot of pressure. 0.99
02:25:21.000 It's going to be real tough to calm this fucking thing down. 0.98
02:25:24.000 And it just can spread so much more now because of Twitter and because of everything else. 0.98
02:25:30.000 It becomes this, everyone knows about it, which fires it all up more, right?
02:25:35.000 Most of the time you live in England, right?
02:25:38.000 Yeah.
02:25:38.000 And in England, the cops don't have guns, right?
02:25:40.000 No.
02:25:41.000 So is there ever any of this kind of rioting?
02:25:43.000 I mean, there still has been, yeah.
02:25:44.000 There's...
02:25:48.000 A regular police don't have guns, but there are obviously different units or higher-up things where it can be the case.
02:25:58.000 Yeah, there has been.
02:26:00.000 A couple of years ago, there was a big one where a kid was shot because they thought he was an armed...
02:26:06.000 Armed police had been called out for an incident and the guy wasn't armed.
02:26:10.000 And it caused riots for days and days, kind of...
02:26:13.000 In London.
02:26:14.000 Similar type of situation.
02:26:15.000 It's just not as regular and not as...
02:26:18.000 It's far rarer because, yeah, it's not any policeman.
02:26:22.000 Not a policeman in McDonald's or wherever else.
02:26:25.000 Not everyone has got...
02:26:27.000 Yeah.
02:26:27.000 ...is weaponised...
02:26:28.000 That's a weird thing.
02:26:30.000 How does the police deal, like, how often is violent crime with guns take place?
02:26:35.000 How often is that in England?
02:26:37.000 It's not that regularly.
02:26:39.000 There is, again, as everywhere, there are guns, there are knives, like there is crime going on, but yeah, it's nowhere near as regular a thing.
02:26:49.000 And I'd say even proportionately, obviously there's millions and millions more people in the US, but I'd still say percentage-wise, it's far more regular.
02:26:57.000 Yeah, and every now and then there's like some sort of a, like that Lee Murray situation where they had that crazy bank robbery.
02:27:04.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:27:05.000 That was fucking nuts, man. 0.99
02:27:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
02:27:07.000 They had full armor on and masks and, you know, ski goggles on and shit and couldn't see their faces. 1.00
02:27:14.000 And it's weird because stuff like that wasn't that big a news story.
02:27:22.000 It wasn't?
02:27:23.000 No.
02:27:23.000 It was the biggest bank robbery in all of England, right?
02:27:25.000 Again, yeah, but it wasn't as big as the riots over a kid getting shot.
02:27:33.000 Bank robberies aren't as hot a topic these days, are they?
02:27:36.000 I don't know.
02:27:37.000 It's weird.
02:27:37.000 I think it's way harder to rob a bank.
02:27:39.000 I don't think that happens all that often.
02:27:41.000 And the Lee Murray one was one of the biggest ones ever.
02:27:45.000 I mean, him and his alleged compadres I mean, they heisted some insane amount of money, right?
02:27:50.000 It was hundreds of millions of dollars.
02:27:52.000 Yeah, it was crazy amounts.
02:27:54.000 Yeah, that guy's a crazy story, huh?
02:27:56.000 Yeah.
02:27:56.000 How much of a folk hero is he in England?
02:27:58.000 Not that much.
02:27:59.000 Generally not that much.
02:28:00.000 Again, I heard about that whole story more because of who he is and because of his fighting and everything else.
02:28:07.000 Because it makes martial arts.
02:28:08.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:28:09.000 Hmm.
02:28:09.000 So the other people that were involved...
02:28:10.000 That's how I became aware of it.
02:28:11.000 And again, I can't say...
02:28:12.000 I guess other people may have been more aware for some reason, but yeah, that's the main...
02:28:18.000 That's how I heard about the story more, because of MMA. Yeah, he doesn't even seem like a real person.
02:28:23.000 Like, a guy who fought as a high-level MMA fighter, got stabbed like seven times, and...
02:28:28.000 And then wound up being involved in one of the biggest bank robberies ever.
02:28:31.000 It's a folk story, isn't it?
02:28:32.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:28:33.000 And then he goes away to Morocco and he's in prison in Morocco and just running shit over there. 0.96
02:28:37.000 Yeah. 0.96
02:28:37.000 He's living over there for a while and then eventually got arrested. 0.96
02:28:42.000 Where's he now in jail?
02:28:43.000 Is he in jail in the UK? I have no clue.
02:28:44.000 I think so.
02:28:45.000 Wow.
02:28:46.000 He's got a crazy life, man.
02:28:48.000 Someone's going to take that guy's life and turn it into the most insane Guy Ritchie movie ever.
02:28:52.000 Yeah.
02:28:53.000 You know, like him narrating it.
02:28:54.000 It's got to be the easiest one to write because it's all just there.
02:28:58.000 Yeah.
02:28:59.000 It's just literally tell your stories.
02:29:01.000 England has a lot of violence, but like fisticuffs.
02:29:04.000 Yeah.
02:29:05.000 That's something that I found shocking when I was there, how often you see guys duking it out in the street.
02:29:10.000 It's a weird one.
02:29:11.000 I'm a Millwall fan, which is a football team over there, and we're known for having a lot of hooligans and violence of writing.
02:29:20.000 They're known as the worst of the lot.
02:29:22.000 But again, my opinion is that's not exclusive to football, really.
02:29:28.000 In the UK, generally on a Saturday night, if you're in a busy town centre, you're going to see a fight of some sort.
02:29:37.000 Because we drink so heavily.
02:29:39.000 LAUGHTER Doug Stanhope has a great bit about it.
02:29:42.000 In England, they'll just fight about everything.
02:29:43.000 Where are you from?
02:29:45.000 Over here! 1.00
02:29:46.000 Fuck over there! 1.00
02:29:47.000 That's exactly right. 1.00
02:29:50.000 It's such a strange thing.
02:29:53.000 I wonder how much that is...
02:29:56.000 Related to the fact that, I mean, there's direct descendants.
02:29:59.000 When you're in Europe, there's no clean break.
02:30:01.000 It's not like your family comes over to a new continent, forms a new civilization and starts fresh.
02:30:07.000 No, you're essentially riding on the momentum of King George.
02:30:11.000 It's like the same, you know, like the society has moved and progressed.
02:30:15.000 We're a tiny little island, but we've got this...
02:30:17.000 And used to be a massive empire.
02:30:19.000 Yeah.
02:30:21.000 That's gotta affect things, right?
02:30:23.000 Our whole history is running so much of the world, and then we're on this tiny little island, still claiming that we're the mighty England, but we're just scrapping in the streets amongst ourselves.
02:30:36.000 Isn't it weird how civilizations do that?
02:30:38.000 Cultures rise and fall, rise and fall, and their influence, and their power.
02:30:43.000 You know, Rome.
02:30:44.000 Go to Rome. 1.00
02:30:45.000 Man, it's shit there. 1.00
02:30:46.000 Nothing's going on. 1.00
02:30:47.000 Go buy a pizza.
02:30:48.000 I mean, what are you going to get when you go to Rome?
02:30:50.000 You're not going to see any just giant armies.
02:30:52.000 Again, it's the weird illusion.
02:30:54.000 In Britain, our history and our arrogance, in a way, 90% of the stuff that we got that was good was from the Romans. 1.00
02:31:01.000 The Romans came and showed us.
02:31:03.000 And the reason a lot of our society crumbled after the Romans left was because we had all these amazing roads and everything, but we didn't know how to rebuild them or to maintain them or anything like that.
02:31:12.000 So we kind of had this big boom when the Romans came over. 0.94
02:31:16.000 And then plummeted for ages because we're like, oh shit, we've got all this technology and whatnot and we don't really know how to fix it. 0.99
02:31:23.000 Some other guys made it and then they went broke and had to go home because they got overthrown and we were there like, ah, fuck. 0.98
02:31:31.000 And then years later it's then turned into our great history and our great advances in technology and Yeah, it comes in waves, right? 0.99
02:31:38.000 Yeah.
02:31:39.000 Like, guys figure it out, and then something happens, and then new people have to reinvent, and yeah.
02:31:46.000 It's just such a fascinating thing.
02:31:48.000 It's such a fascinating thing when you go to Europe and you see how old everything is.
02:31:51.000 Yeah.
02:31:51.000 It really puts into perspective, because when I was a kid, I lived in Boston.
02:31:56.000 And there was a cemetery near the commons.
02:31:59.000 And it's like one of the oldest cemeteries in the country.
02:32:02.000 And you'll see a headstone from the 1700s or 1600s.
02:32:06.000 That's a big deal.
02:32:08.000 But in comparison to the European history, they have that big white horse that's on the side of a hill.
02:32:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.97
02:32:16.000 Nobody fucking knows where it came from. 0.97
02:32:18.000 Nobody has a goddamn clue. 1.00
02:32:20.000 So much stuff like that. 0.98
02:32:20.000 And just things like Stonehenge and all that kind of just, it's just crazy how old that. 0.98
02:32:26.000 And again, really, it's not that impressive. 0.92
02:32:29.000 It's a load of slabs, it's some shit, but it's the fact that this is, yeah, that's so old. 1.00
02:32:34.000 No one really knows what, how or what. 0.98
02:32:37.000 Yeah, and they like debate the purpose of it.
02:32:39.000 They find roads, these crazy stone roads. 0.99
02:32:41.000 Like, okay, what the fuck? 0.99
02:32:42.000 What's going on here? 1.00
02:32:43.000 No one knows.
02:32:43.000 Everyone forgot.
02:32:44.000 It's all just gone.
02:32:45.000 Whole civilization comes and goes.
02:32:47.000 It's a beautiful thing, though, man.
02:32:49.000 It's an amazing thing to discover the remnants of the past and try to piece together what happened and then really try to put it into perspective what has happened that brought us to 2014. All the different lives that had to be lived, all the events that had to take place.
02:33:04.000 And all the different things that we're trying to still piece together today and try to figure out, well, what was going on?
02:33:09.000 What did they believe?
02:33:10.000 Why were they worshiping cows?
02:33:12.000 And what were they doing on top of this hill?
02:33:14.000 And why they set this up to align it with constellations?
02:33:18.000 What was their belief system?
02:33:19.000 They wrote like this? 1.00
02:33:21.000 What the fuck? 0.99
02:33:22.000 They had these little squiggly lines. 1.00
02:33:24.000 What are they saying?
02:33:25.000 It's crazy to think of the level of intelligence that was around Before the breakthrough was made to record that and to document that. 0.98
02:33:34.000 So just so much stuff, just amazing shit that probably they all knew what these stones were for. 0.97
02:33:38.000 Everyone knew what the fuck that was for, but that wasn't written down anywhere. 0.99
02:33:42.000 Yeah, they figured, we're not going to forget that. 0.98
02:33:44.000 We spent so much time building this.
02:33:46.000 Everybody knows what the stones do.
02:33:48.000 Jesus.
02:33:49.000 Stonehenge.
02:33:49.000 Everybody knows what Stonehenge is for.
02:33:52.000 Yeah, I wonder when the first guy started writing shit down, everybody else was probably like, what the fuck are you doing? 0.99
02:33:58.000 He's like, I wrote a language. 1.00
02:33:59.000 Like, I'm not learning your shit. 0.99
02:34:00.000 I got my own language. 1.00
02:34:01.000 My language involves circles.
02:34:03.000 It's all about big circles and little circles.
02:34:04.000 Big circles means I'm really mad.
02:34:06.000 Little circles mean I'm happy.
02:34:07.000 Okay?
02:34:08.000 Big circle, little circle.
02:34:10.000 You had to get a bunch of people to agree.
02:34:11.000 Like, you had to get a bunch of scholars.
02:34:12.000 How many generations did it take?
02:34:14.000 How many generations did it take?
02:34:17.000 To figure that out.
02:34:18.000 It's just unimaginable.
02:34:19.000 And then someone's like, I'm going to write it on a cylinder, and I'm going to roll it on clay, and you're going to know what I mean.
02:34:24.000 Like, what? 0.85
02:34:24.000 And then how fucked up is it when they then go and find another society that got it completely different, like no correlation at all. 0.85
02:34:33.000 So not only have you had to figure out this completely new way of communicating, you've got to then interpret their way into yours. 0.99
02:34:41.000 LAUGHTER It's too crazy.
02:34:42.000 It's the idea of how crazy... 0.99
02:34:46.000 Look, when you think about Columbus in 1492, sailing off, finding the Americas, landing here, seeing the Native people, trying to communicate with them, what that must have been like, not even knowing where the fuck you landed. 0.97
02:35:01.000 You get there, and you see some people... 0.99
02:35:04.000 And they're all brown and shit, and they got feathers on their head, and you're like, what is going on? 0.99
02:35:08.000 How do I tell this guy that I'm from Spain? 0.99
02:35:11.000 What is he saying?
02:35:15.000 You had to decipher a language that no one even knew existed, and there's a gang of them.
02:35:19.000 You got the Lakota people who speak one way. 0.95
02:35:22.000 You got the Cherokee that speak another way.
02:35:24.000 You got the Apache that have their own way. 1.00
02:35:26.000 Yeah.
02:35:28.000 And that's only 200 years ago.
02:35:30.000 You know, 400, 500 years or whatever it was, from 1492 to 2012. I mean, think about, like, when they came here, the amount of time between 1492, the less than 600 years, 500 plus years, to today.
02:35:45.000 That's nothing in terms of the world.
02:35:48.000 Nothing.
02:35:49.000 But in that time, this one spot with a bunch of people on horses just hanging out, just...
02:35:54.000 It erupted, became New York City, San Francisco, California.
02:35:58.000 The last time I was here, I can't remember what it was, but someone was telling me how long ago it was that LA was part of Mexico.
02:36:04.000 1800s.
02:36:05.000 I was like, yes.
02:36:06.000 Yeah.
02:36:06.000 Not that long.
02:36:07.000 I don't think, I mean, I think, when, okay, when was LA Mexico?
02:36:11.000 I say, I say 1800s.
02:36:15.000 More recent than that.
02:36:15.000 Really?
02:36:16.000 I could be wrong.
02:36:17.000 I could be remembering it wrong, but.
02:36:18.000 Brian, you're dating a Mexican.
02:36:19.000 I was at a Mexican last night.
02:36:21.000 But if you had to ask, though, if you had to guess, when was L.A. Mexico?
02:36:27.000 1821. 1827. Okay, when was L.A. Mexico?
02:36:35.000 Hmm.
02:36:36.000 When did L.A. belong to Mexico?
02:36:38.000 Okay, when did...
02:36:41.000 It's the anticipation now.
02:36:45.000 I know, it's building.
02:36:46.000 I'm saying more recently than that.
02:36:48.000 I'll be in Santa Barbara this weekend.
02:36:49.000 What are you saying?
02:36:49.000 I don't know, I don't want to...
02:36:53.000 1769. Oh, really?
02:36:55.000 1769?
02:36:55.000 I think so.
02:36:56.000 Hold on a second.
02:36:57.000 European exportation period from 1542 to 1769. Oh, no, no, no.
02:37:01.000 I'm just kidding.
02:37:02.000 Mexican period 1821 to 1848. The United States statehood.
02:37:07.000 Dude, that's fucking amazing. 0.98
02:37:09.000 Which continues to the present day. 0.99
02:37:10.000 1821. I guessed it.
02:37:11.000 Date...
02:37:12.000 Yeah.
02:37:13.000 That's amazing.
02:37:13.000 You probably...
02:37:14.000 Do you think maybe you had that in your head?
02:37:16.000 Like you knew?
02:37:16.000 I got a little Mexican juice on me.
02:37:19.000 Maybe that has...
02:37:20.000 No.
02:37:21.000 Do you think that maybe you saw that somewhere?
02:37:23.000 No.
02:37:23.000 It's a crazy number to pick.
02:37:25.000 1821. Yeah.
02:37:26.000 It is a real...
02:37:27.000 Incredibly specific.
02:37:28.000 Yeah.
02:37:28.000 It's really specific.
02:37:29.000 But you got it.
02:37:29.000 But it's also...
02:37:30.000 I've seen those t-shirts.
02:37:31.000 That's one thing to take into consideration.
02:37:33.000 They have a t-shirt that says 1881 to 2014. A lot of people wear it.
02:37:37.000 It's got the...
02:37:38.000 You know.
02:37:38.000 It was like...
02:37:38.000 His birth t-shirt.
02:37:40.000 I've seen them like different years.
02:37:42.000 Maybe I saw it one day.
02:37:44.000 I have no idea.
02:37:44.000 I've never even thought of it.
02:37:45.000 Well, it's a good memory, though.
02:37:46.000 Whatever it is, you were right.
02:37:47.000 I actually didn't even know that Mexico and the United States was in the same.
02:37:50.000 Different tribes of Native Americans have lived in the area that is now California for an estimated 13,000 to 15,000 years. 0.99
02:37:58.000 Holy shit, man. 1.00
02:38:00.000 Holy shit. 1.00
02:38:03.000 Wow. 0.99
02:38:05.000 During the pre-European period, there was only between 100 and 300,000 Native Americans living in California.
02:38:13.000 Wow, there's no one here.
02:38:15.000 It's crazy, just empty.
02:38:17.000 Isn't that weird?
02:38:18.000 300,000 is not empty, though.
02:38:20.000 It's probably amazing.
02:38:22.000 It's probably amazing. 0.83
02:38:23.000 I mean, look, it's probably a hard life living back then, but how amazing must it have been to be on horseback and shit 300,000 people here?
02:38:32.000 Well, actually, pre-European. 0.82
02:38:34.000 The problem with that is pre-European, I don't think they were on horses at all. 0.99
02:38:39.000 The horses came from the Europeans, I'm pretty sure.
02:38:42.000 Yeah.
02:38:42.000 They're riding horses.
02:38:44.000 That was one of the things where Cortez showed up and Montezuma's people were like, what the fuck? 1.00
02:38:49.000 These guys are gods. 0.99
02:38:50.000 Because they were on horses.
02:38:51.000 And thought that they were part of the horse.
02:38:55.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:38:56.000 Fascinating shit, man. 0.99
02:38:57.000 1821. That is not that long ago. 1.00
02:38:59.000 It's not that long ago at all.
02:39:00.000 Less than 200 years ago, this was Mexico.
02:39:03.000 No wonder why Mexicans get mad. 1.00
02:39:04.000 That shit's really recent. 1.00
02:39:07.000 That's not that many generations either. 0.99
02:39:10.000 No, not at all.
02:39:12.000 That's not that many at all. 1.00
02:39:14.000 There's like great-great-grandparents who can almost remember that shit. 1.00
02:39:17.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:39:18.000 Wow.
02:39:18.000 I think I saw somewhere the other day that Columbus, Ohio now has a bigger population of Mexicans than white people.
02:39:25.000 I think.
02:39:26.000 I'll double check on that.
02:39:27.000 Columbus, Ohio.
02:39:29.000 I remember when I lived there just some 10 or 11 years ago, I remember seeing the first Mexican.
02:39:35.000 I remember like, what's that?
02:39:37.000 And my mom's like, that's a Mexican. 1.00
02:39:39.000 Every day I'm hustling.
02:39:40.000 Every day I'm hustling.
02:39:42.000 They figured out a way. 1.00
02:39:43.000 They just fucking hustled. 1.00
02:39:44.000 They got all the way up to Columbus. 1.00
02:39:46.000 Like, these fucking chubby white people aren't working. 1.00
02:39:48.000 Let's go take their jobs. 1.00
02:39:49.000 Kick some ass. 1.00
02:39:50.000 Take some names. 1.00
02:39:51.000 I'll take five jobs, please.
02:39:52.000 We're all living in a one-bedroom apartment.
02:39:54.000 We're saving money.
02:39:55.000 Boom.
02:39:55.000 Next thing you know, they're opening up a taco joint.
02:39:57.000 Best tacos in Columbus.
02:39:58.000 Dude's not even legal.
02:40:00.000 They're earning it.
02:40:00.000 They're taking over.
02:40:01.000 It's fine.
02:40:02.000 If there's two taco places in town and one of them was a dude that's not even legal, I'm going to that guy's place.
02:40:06.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:40:07.000 He's bringing over goats and shit and serving some nasty, vicious jalapenos. 1.00
02:40:12.000 That one place, man, in La Jolla, across the street from the condo. 0.99
02:40:15.000 What's that place called, yeah? 1.00
02:40:17.000 Shit, you asked me too fast. 1.00
02:40:20.000 Bob's Burritos? 1.00
02:40:22.000 Don's?
02:40:23.000 Don Luke.
02:40:25.000 Whatever it is.
02:40:26.000 It's so close to Mexico.
02:40:28.000 It's just the most authentic, the most ridiculously good burritos you'll ever have in your life.
02:40:34.000 Amazing.
02:40:35.000 And it's in San Diego, so it's like real close to the actual Mexico.
02:40:38.000 You can't play.
02:40:38.000 Don Lucas.
02:40:39.000 Don Lucas.
02:40:40.000 You can't play. 0.99
02:40:41.000 When you're in San Diego, you can't have some shitty Mexican food. 0.99
02:40:43.000 Mexico's right there. 0.99
02:40:44.000 It's literally on the doorstep.
02:40:48.000 Yeah, it's a weird moment, man, when you have, you know, this incredible community, like La Jolla, you know, this, like, really rich area.
02:40:56.000 Yeah.
02:40:56.000 Beautiful, beautiful area.
02:40:58.000 And then 20-minute drive, Tijuana.
02:41:01.000 20-minute drive, like, a complete different country, you know, wrecked with poverty, drug violence.
02:41:06.000 It's crazy to...
02:41:07.000 Touring around Europe, realising how many countries you can cover in a few hours drive.
02:41:14.000 Yeah, right?
02:41:15.000 I mean, that's insane that you're driving through Germany to France, to Holland, to Italy.
02:41:20.000 All of these are within a day, kind of thing.
02:41:24.000 But you're in a completely different country and culture, language, everything.
02:41:29.000 Well, yeah.
02:41:30.000 I mean, you guys can go to France and Germany and Hungary.
02:41:34.000 Like, how many different places can you leave in England and get to in one day?
02:41:39.000 Insane amount.
02:41:40.000 Insane.
02:41:40.000 If you're literally driving through or driving, yeah, there's so many.
02:41:46.000 How many of them speak different languages?
02:41:48.000 All of them.
02:41:49.000 All of them.
02:41:50.000 It's crazy.
02:41:51.000 They're all across the board from each other and completely different languages.
02:41:55.000 But most of them speak English as well.
02:41:56.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:41:57.000 When you're doing gigs, do you do gigs in all these countries and do English gigs?
02:42:02.000 Yeah.
02:42:02.000 Wow.
02:42:03.000 It was crazy because obviously it's quite lyric based.
02:42:08.000 We assumed when we first started going out there that they wouldn't really get that side of it.
02:42:14.000 But it's crazy how in Europe a lot of people seem to get it more because they read the translations of it and are paying attention more, if you know what I mean.
02:42:23.000 So if you're hearing it and you speak English, You're going to miss tons of it, but you're picking up enough.
02:42:27.000 Whereas because they're not picking up any, they'll then go and read it word for word and understand it far more than half the British people who come to our shows and stuff like that.
02:42:37.000 Oh, that's kind of cool.
02:42:39.000 Because it's all fast.
02:42:40.000 So if you're like, oh, this is my language, then you won't get...
02:42:44.000 There's tons of hip-hop songs.
02:42:45.000 I don't know half of it, but I've listened to it a million times and you just, yeah.
02:42:49.000 Have you ever thought about doing that as an app?
02:42:52.000 Releasing it as an app and having all your lyrics as an app?
02:42:55.000 All the lyrics on there.
02:42:55.000 No, that could be good.
02:42:57.000 I mean, I've always been adamant of putting it in the booklets and shit like that.
02:43:02.000 I've always been adamant on the packaging, always having...
02:43:05.000 of being good.
02:43:06.000 I like physical stuff.
02:43:07.000 Obviously, I'm...
02:43:09.000 Adapting to digital stuff, but I like to put out a nice physical product as well with all the lyrics in.
02:43:16.000 And then I kind of sit there all kind of snotty online when people ask me the lyrics.
02:43:19.000 It's like, well, if you bought the CD, then you just go and buy the album.
02:43:23.000 You'll find that out.
02:43:24.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:43:25.000 Do you get upset with people who bootleg your shit? 1.00
02:43:28.000 I get upset that there's no shame over it. 1.00
02:43:33.000 That kills me now that people will openly just tweet again, yeah, I stole that.
02:43:36.000 It's like, cool, I understand that that happens, but don't come to my face and tell me that, because particularly as I've released most of it on my own label now and stuff like that, it's just like, you're not ripping anyone off other than me.
02:43:46.000 Um...
02:43:47.000 Yeah.
02:43:47.000 But do you feel like there's a balance with people finding out about your stuff, because someone will take it and download it, and then they'll distribute it, and then other people find out about it, and then more people come to your shows?
02:43:58.000 I think there completely is.
02:44:00.000 I think, yeah, it's all interwoven, but I think people often argue, oh, I stole your music, but I paid to come to see you live.
02:44:11.000 It's like...
02:44:12.000 Yeah, and I performed live for you.
02:44:14.000 Right, right, right.
02:44:15.000 That's what you were paying for.
02:44:16.000 Do you know what I mean?
02:44:17.000 That doesn't cover the CD. It's like a respect thing, almost.
02:44:20.000 It's just like, if you're going to do it, yeah, you might have some new listeners, because he told somebody, but don't go to your, like you say, go to your faces.
02:44:28.000 I find it such a weird argument that saying, I stole this, but I paid for this, when the thing you're paying for has its own value anyway.
02:44:37.000 It's like saying, I'm not going to pay you at work this week, but I paid you for the last three weeks, so we're cool.
02:44:45.000 No, we're not cool.
02:44:46.000 This is for this work.
02:44:48.000 Right, right, right.
02:44:49.000 But I don't know, I do a lot to...
02:44:50.000 To try and just make it engaging and make people want to pay.
02:44:55.000 On my solo album, I released a fake torrent that was all the instrumentals, but me just talking and just chatting and doing kind of DVD extras, kind of, oh, the drummer on this track was Travis Barker and shit like that and going through stuff, just so that the torrent that was first out there and everyone grabbed wasn't at the album.
02:45:13.000 But then it also kind of, not in a preachy way, kind of said...
02:45:18.000 If you're stealing it, you're stealing it from me, from the artist that you're into and supporting.
02:45:24.000 And that kind of works. 0.93
02:45:25.000 A lot of people say, oh shit, I got caught on the fake torrent. 0.98
02:45:29.000 That's interesting. 0.98
02:45:31.000 I like to try and make things interesting in that way.
02:45:35.000 Because again, if people are going to steal, they're going to steal.
02:45:37.000 But we get an awful lot of people who say, I've not paid for an album in ages, but I paid for your album because of the way it's all coming from a personal perspective.
02:45:47.000 Right, because it's from someone directly, you release it.
02:45:51.000 There's a lot of things that people don't want to pay for online.
02:45:56.000 Once they start being able to get things for free, they don't want to pay for them.
02:46:00.000 It's finding the balance and the sweet spot.
02:46:03.000 I've just released my...
02:46:04.000 I did a spoken word show at Edinburgh Fringe, so it's kind of spoken word, but there's some stand-up in there as well kind of thing.
02:46:11.000 And it stunned me that the comedy world, Louis and yourself and everyone, have found that thing of putting it out for $5 and being direct to the customer.
02:46:23.000 $5 is enough for you to not want to go on a torrent site and hunt it down.
02:46:28.000 It seems to be that sweet spot that people will be happy to pay, yet the music industry hasn't done that.
02:46:34.000 For my Edinburgh show, I've done that and released it in that way.
02:46:37.000 And again, it seems to be working.
02:46:38.000 People are kind of...
02:46:40.000 I think people like you, they'll buy it.
02:46:42.000 And if they wouldn't buy it, they were probably never going to buy it anyway.
02:46:45.000 And if they download it, you'll get more people downloading it. 0.96
02:46:48.000 So I don't know how many people have illegally downloaded my shit, but a lot of people have bought it. 0.96
02:46:52.000 So I think it all works out. 0.98
02:46:54.000 I just think it works out.
02:46:56.000 Spreads the word.
02:46:56.000 But again, it's that I'm completely...
02:46:59.000 I think that's the way things go.
02:47:01.000 I started off...
02:47:02.000 I think you've got to do a certain amount of free stuff.
02:47:05.000 I think that's totally key.
02:47:06.000 You need to be giving away stuff for free and engaging and building that crowd so that hopefully when you do have stuff for sale, people will pay.
02:47:15.000 Well, I think that definitely makes it a better relationship, that if everything you do is just for sale, I think when you give people stuff for free, certainly like a podcast.
02:47:25.000 Have you ever thought about doing something like a podcast?
02:47:27.000 I'm tempted.
02:47:28.000 I've had a radio show in the UK for the last year and a half.
02:47:33.000 I've just stopped that now for a bit of a break, but I'm considering going the podcast route instead.
02:47:39.000 Yeah, why not?
02:47:39.000 I mean, when you have a radio show, the thing about it is you're always going to be working for someone.
02:47:44.000 You're always going to be, you know, uploading something to someone else's servers, and they have to decide whether or not Scroobius is getting crazy. 0.99
02:47:50.000 This motherfucker's saying some shit that I don't agree with. 0.99
02:47:52.000 We're going to have to remove him from our... 1.00
02:47:53.000 I mean, that's exactly it.
02:47:55.000 That kind of just being your own boss on that is...
02:47:58.000 Yeah, and much like you do with your spoken word stuff.
02:48:01.000 You're the creator of this stuff.
02:48:03.000 Yeah.
02:48:04.000 You'd be the creator of your own podcast, too.
02:48:06.000 Yeah.
02:48:06.000 I think...
02:48:06.000 I've completely...
02:48:09.000 I forgot.
02:48:09.000 That Edinburgh Fringe thing I mentioned is $6 on my website, but if you enter the code word Rogan, it's $5 at the moment.
02:48:17.000 So, you know, I've seen your adverts.
02:48:19.000 I know how it works.
02:48:20.000 I know how to win people over.
02:48:23.000 So...
02:48:23.000 Scroobiuspip.co.uk.
02:48:25.000 Oh, there you go.
02:48:26.000 .co.uk.
02:48:27.000 Yeah.
02:48:27.000 Okay, cool.
02:48:28.000 Well, that's awesome, man.
02:48:29.000 I forgot about that.
02:48:30.000 I sorted that before I came in.
02:48:32.000 What are you doing over in America right now?
02:48:33.000 I'm working on a new solo album.
02:48:36.000 So I'm working on that with Travis Barker again, Danny Loner from Nine Inch Nails.
02:48:42.000 Danny is friends with Eddie Bravo.
02:48:44.000 Yeah, Eddie was over last night.
02:48:45.000 Travis seems like a cool guy.
02:48:46.000 I've never met him, but we've gone back and forth online.
02:48:49.000 I've communicated with him a little bit.
02:48:51.000 The last time I was over here... 1.00
02:48:52.000 And again, he's fucking... 1.00
02:48:53.000 He's huge. 1.00
02:48:54.000 He doesn't need to give anyone any favours.
02:48:56.000 I came over and he was just...
02:48:58.000 He gave us about two hours in his studio of just him playing drums for the record.
02:49:04.000 It was like, do you need any more?
02:49:06.000 And just...
02:49:07.000 We chatted online and he played on a track I'd done previously, but it was all over emails.
02:49:12.000 And just the most accommodating and nice guy.
02:49:14.000 And it's like, you don't have to be this guy. 1.00
02:49:16.000 You could be a complete dick. 1.00
02:49:18.000 But he's, yeah, just played for hours. 1.00
02:49:19.000 And literally as soon as I left, I had a message from him saying...
02:49:22.000 If you need any more, just let me know if you're in town.
02:49:26.000 That's so cool.
02:49:27.000 That's great.
02:49:28.000 Yeah, that's amazing.
02:49:29.000 Yeah, he's about as big as it gets when it comes to drummers.
02:49:31.000 Yeah.
02:49:32.000 Does that guy have any room for tattoos, or is he just completely filled up?
02:49:36.000 He still seems to be having them all the time.
02:49:38.000 How's that possible?
02:49:39.000 He's just tattooing over tattoos.
02:49:41.000 Yeah.
02:49:41.000 Yeah, he's got no room, man.
02:49:43.000 I like that dude, though.
02:49:44.000 He does a lot of martial arts training, too.
02:49:46.000 He does.
02:49:48.000 Yeah, there's a place near here that he trains at.
02:49:49.000 The way we started talking was us talking about our UFC events and our picks and that.
02:49:54.000 That's kind of how we got to know each other.
02:49:57.000 Yeah, he loves the UFC. He's a big MMA fan.
02:50:00.000 He's always tweeting about it and stuff.
02:50:02.000 That's cool, man.
02:50:03.000 So listen, we're out of time.
02:50:04.000 We did three hours. 1.00
02:50:05.000 Can you believe that shit? 1.00
02:50:05.000 God damn it. 1.00
02:50:06.000 Flew by. 1.00
02:50:07.000 It did.
02:50:08.000 It did.
02:50:08.000 But thank you for, first of all, thank you for letting us play your music on the show.
02:50:12.000 No problem at all.
02:50:12.000 And thanks for coming on and just having a chat.
02:50:14.000 It was fun.
02:50:15.000 Thanks for having me on, yeah.
02:50:16.000 Pleased to be here.
02:50:17.000 And what was the thing that I wish I could say besides proper?
02:50:22.000 Something with an F. Wasn't it straight away or straight away?
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02:50:28.000 I was thinking a fact. 0.96
02:50:30.000 No.
02:50:31.000 That's what you're always thinking of. 0.99
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02:51:24.000 This weekend I'm with Ryan Sickler and Sam Tripoli at Velvet Jones in Santa Barbara.
02:51:29.000 Powerful Santa Barbara.
02:51:30.000 That's an awesome spot.
02:51:31.000 I love Santa Barbara.
02:51:32.000 It's one of my favorite cities.
02:51:34.000 Alright, so you can find out that and more on DeathSquad.tv along with all of Brian's products, the kitty cat shirts that he creates all himself and all that stuff.
02:51:44.000 And we'll be back next week.
02:51:46.000 A lot more podcasts for you, ladies and gentlemen.
02:51:48.000 Until then, have yourselves a beautiful life.
02:51:50.000 Big kiss.
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