The Joe Rogan Experience - May 17, 2016


Joe Rogan Experience #800 - Bobcat Goldthwait

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Bigfoot conventions and believers bikers Bigfoot research and beliefs doing doc on Washington Generals The Simpsons ride at Universal flat-faced bear Native American bear culture Bigfoot capture hoax Jimmy Stewart's wife and Yeti finger
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Joe Rogan
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Bobcat Goldthwait
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Survivorman Bigfoot Harry Potter Dave Chappelle Barry Ted Cruz Tony V. Yeti Jimmy Stewart Billy Jack Jesus Christ John Landis Jay Leno Lee Harvey Oswald David Letterman Bob Hieronymus Dan Flores Les Stroud Universal Bobcat Goldthwait Roger Patterson and 92 more
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Bobcat Goldthwait goes to a Mothman convention and finds out that the mothman is not real. Then he goes to the funeral of his late brother and learns that his brother was a big bad bear eater. And then he learns that the man who was supposed to be his pallbearer at his brother's funeral was actually a big a bear eater... Bobcat talks about it all on this week s episode of Bobcat and the Big Heads Up! Plus, a new segment called "Bobcat's Biggest Failures" where he tells the story of how he almost got into Bigfoot... and how it almost didn't go the way he thought it would go. Enjoy this wild and crazy story about a man who thinks Bigfoot is real, and what it's like to be a Bigfoot hunter, and the people who helped him do it. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! You can also join the Bobcat & The Crew FB group and become a supporter of the show by using the promo code: bobcatandthebigcoast at anchor.fm/thebiggestcrack and get 10% off your first month with discount code: BobcatGoldthwait at checkout! $10.00 and get 20% off the entire year with promo code BobcatandTheBiggestDeal at checkout at checkout. at checkout, and he also gets a discount on his first week of the month! Thank you so much appreciated this week's episode of The Biggest Deal of the year! XOXO! and the first month of 2019 is a discount of $50 or more than $100, and there's a discount code at checkout can be a maximum of $150,000, and they get a free shipping and a free ad discount, too! they get it all, they get $5,000 and they also get $25,000 shipping and they can give him an ad discount on the entire month, they also give him a year and a VIP discount, plus he gets an ad on the day of the whole place gets $5th place they can choose, they can get the entire place they receive the deal, they review the deal and he gets a promo code they receive in the deal they get, they ll also get an ad, they will also get a discount, they receive $5 or they get VIP access to the show.

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00:00:03.000 We're live. 1.00
00:00:05.000 Bobcat Goldthwait, what the fuck you doing going to a Bigfoot convention and then a Mothman convention? 1.00
00:00:10.000 No, not a Mothman convention. 1.00
00:00:11.000 You're a smart guy.
00:00:11.000 You're a grown man.
00:00:13.000 I just went to see where the Mothman was, or had been.
00:00:17.000 Oh, there wasn't a Mothman convention?
00:00:19.000 No, because I was at the Ohio Bigfoot Conference, which was less than two hours away from Point Pleasant, West Virginia, where the Mothman appeared.
00:00:31.000 And when I was talking with some of the, you know, Bigfoot researchers, I said...
00:00:36.000 Do you do that with air quotes when you say that?
00:00:37.000 The researchers, I was talking to them and I said, hey, you know, we're really close to where the Mothman was.
00:00:44.000 And they're like, well, the Mothman is not real.
00:00:49.000 So... 0.97
00:00:52.000 Do they know how silly that is? 0.96
00:00:55.000 No. 0.98
00:00:56.000 Well, some did.
00:00:56.000 You know, that's the thing.
00:00:57.000 There's different categories of Bigfoot people.
00:01:01.000 There's people who are self-aware.
00:01:02.000 There's people who seem pretty regular.
00:01:06.000 You know, that's the thing.
00:01:07.000 You go to this convention, and you have this idea of what a person is who believes that there's an 800-pound wood ape out there.
00:01:18.000 And then when you get to know him, you realize that... 0.98
00:01:23.000 They're really fucking weird. 0.96
00:01:24.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:01:25.000 No, I'm kidding.
00:01:26.000 But there is that.
00:01:28.000 There's a lot of that.
00:01:29.000 There's a lot of that.
00:01:30.000 But I have to say, I love them.
00:01:34.000 I had a great time.
00:01:36.000 And it was really fun.
00:01:37.000 It was great.
00:01:38.000 I've had some people that I talked to.
00:01:40.000 What was the professor from...
00:01:43.000 Meldrum?
00:01:44.000 Yes.
00:01:45.000 Professor Meldrum, who's a really interesting guy.
00:01:48.000 Sure, sure.
00:01:48.000 Do you know who he is?
00:01:49.000 He's a pretty prominent guy in the Bigfoot community who's a very rational, reasonable person.
00:01:55.000 And he told me he would cut his pinky off to know the truth.
00:01:59.000 Whole pinky.
00:02:00.000 And you said, you know what?
00:02:02.000 I can do it.
00:02:04.000 I'll do it with an arrow.
00:02:07.000 I'm more fascinated about, I mean, I'm sure your listeners are more over it, but about you going out and hunting a bear with an animal.
00:02:16.000 Eating them is really interesting.
00:02:19.000 What is it?
00:02:19.000 They're good.
00:02:20.000 They taste really good. 1.00
00:02:22.000 The way I describe it is like a deer fucked a pig. 1.00
00:02:29.000 It's kind of almost... 0.99
00:02:31.000 That's taking the Tofurky to a new level. 0.99
00:02:36.000 But I... You know, my brother...
00:02:38.000 He passed away.
00:02:40.000 My brother was a...
00:02:42.000 I'm going to say a hunter, but he was actually a poacher.
00:02:46.000 My brother...
00:02:47.000 Oh, really?
00:02:47.000 Yeah.
00:02:47.000 When he passed away, people said, Hey, can I have your dough permit?
00:02:54.000 And I was like...
00:02:55.000 What?
00:02:56.000 My brother had been getting a doper mitt in my name for like 20 years.
00:03:02.000 Oh, really?
00:03:02.000 Yeah, he had all these forged doper mitts.
00:03:05.000 He shot animals all year long.
00:03:07.000 The game warden would bust into his home with lock cutters and crack open his freezer and there'd be all this game out of season.
00:03:18.000 Oh, man.
00:03:20.000 Yeah, but you know he ate it.
00:03:21.000 Right.
00:03:22.000 But he, yeah.
00:03:24.000 Just didn't abide by the rules.
00:03:26.000 Well, no.
00:03:27.000 No, he did not abide by anyone's rules.
00:03:29.000 His funeral was awesome and eclectic, but there's two things.
00:03:38.000 Someone should have given me a heads up.
00:03:40.000 Well, first of all, a couple of the pallbearers were in camo.
00:03:44.000 Really?
00:03:45.000 So you were like a serious hunter.
00:03:46.000 Oh, hunter, biker.
00:03:48.000 Where'd he live?
00:03:49.000 Central New York in Syracuse, and then Rome and around.
00:03:52.000 I love my brother, but he was wild.
00:03:55.000 And then the other thing, they probably should have given me a heads up that his friend, little Ricky, was one of the pallbearers.
00:04:06.000 Yeah, he was...
00:04:07.000 I don't want to use the word. 0.72
00:04:12.000 I was going to say he was like a munchkin. 0.97
00:04:13.000 Good save.
00:04:14.000 I didn't want to use the other M word.
00:04:16.000 I mean, he wasn't...
00:04:17.000 He was a tiny person.
00:04:18.000 He was a little person.
00:04:19.000 He wasn't a dwarf.
00:04:20.000 He was regular size.
00:04:22.000 I don't know.
00:04:23.000 He was tiny.
00:04:24.000 But he didn't look...
00:04:25.000 You know what I mean.
00:04:26.000 I get it.
00:04:27.000 But nobody said Ricky was going to be a pallbearer.
00:04:30.000 Or give me a heads up.
00:04:31.000 So I looked down the end of the church...
00:04:34.000 He's in the middle on one side of the casket.
00:04:37.000 In the middle?
00:04:37.000 Yeah.
00:04:38.000 And I said to my daughter, I go, looks like Ricky's riding a subway.
00:04:43.000 And my daughter's like, I think he just got air.
00:04:49.000 And so the priest is going on about how my brother Tommy loved the outdoors and he loved animals.
00:04:55.000 And then I went on after the priest.
00:04:56.000 I go, Father, I don't want to be impolite, but my brother liked to kill animals.
00:05:02.000 There's a lot of deer right now in the woods going...
00:05:09.000 Upstate New York is a very dear, rich place.
00:05:12.000 People don't have a lot of tolerance to those animals.
00:05:14.000 A lot of car accidents.
00:05:16.000 Well, there's a lot, and there's more now than when I was a kid.
00:05:22.000 You know Tony V, Boston Canadian?
00:05:24.000 I went out to visit my brother.
00:05:27.000 I'd given him some money to buy some windows for his house.
00:05:31.000 It's a long story.
00:05:31.000 But this is when he's really out in the woods.
00:05:34.000 And we pull up to his yard, and there's just...
00:05:39.000 There's just corn growing.
00:05:41.000 There's no rose.
00:05:42.000 It's this whole front and backyard of corn.
00:05:45.000 There's like psycho corn.
00:05:46.000 There's no rose or anything.
00:05:48.000 And Tony didn't know my brother.
00:05:51.000 And he comes out and he goes, hey, what's up with the corn?
00:05:53.000 He's like, it's for the deer, Bobby.
00:05:56.000 And Tony's like, oh, you helping through the winter?
00:05:58.000 He's like, no, I'm going to blast them.
00:06:00.000 So my brother...
00:06:03.000 He just beat his house. 1.00
00:06:05.000 Oh, that's so fucked up. 0.99
00:06:08.000 And I go, I'm in the bathroom, and the new window is cracked. 0.99
00:06:11.000 And I go, Tommy, what happened to this new window?
00:06:13.000 He goes, yeah, Bob, you had a little problem with recoil.
00:06:16.000 So my brother would sit on the toilet and shoot deer.
00:06:20.000 Swear to God.
00:06:21.000 Swear to God.
00:06:24.000 I'm sure he was probably burning one, too.
00:06:26.000 Shooting out the window? 1.00
00:06:27.000 Yeah, taking a shit. 1.00
00:06:28.000 Yeah, taking a shit. 1.00
00:06:30.000 You want to go hunting? 1.00
00:06:30.000 Yeah, meet me in the kitchen. 1.00
00:06:33.000 And then one time, him and his friends got really high, and they just turned this station wagon into a convertible with their Heliar torches, and then they used that.
00:06:47.000 That was their hunting mobile?
00:06:49.000 Yeah, that was their cone car. 1.00
00:06:51.000 They drove around the fucking station wagon! 1.00
00:06:52.000 And shoot out of it. 1.00
00:06:53.000 Oh, my God.
00:06:54.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:06:55.000 Oh, so I've read this part of the story.
00:06:56.000 No.
00:06:57.000 So Tony V's going, your brother's certified, but he's never been around my brother.
00:07:02.000 So he goes, so Tony and I get back in the car, and we're heading to the car, and Tony sees this woodchuck across the street, and Tony goes, what is that?
00:07:12.000 And my brother goes, it's a chucky, it's a woodchuck.
00:07:15.000 And then we're not even down the end of the driveway, and we're, blam!
00:07:20.000 And Tony's going, I just fingered that woodchuck.
00:07:24.000 I go, yeah, man, that woodchuck's dead.
00:07:27.000 You dropped a dime on that woodchuck. 0.88
00:07:30.000 You fingered that woodchuck.
00:07:31.000 That woodchuck, his family's gonna go, Papa?
00:07:35.000 Papa?
00:07:36.000 Coming to the door?
00:07:38.000 Yeah, my brother, you know, God rest his soul.
00:07:42.000 He was a wild man.
00:07:43.000 A wild man.
00:07:44.000 What did he do for a living?
00:07:45.000 He was a sheet metal worker and he rode bikes for a long time.
00:07:51.000 Our home when I was a kid was the movie Mask.
00:07:55.000 It was just always bikes and motor clubs would come over the house and keg parties and stuff like that.
00:08:01.000 Yeah.
00:08:02.000 Yeah.
00:08:02.000 It helped me to go to the Bigfoot conference.
00:08:06.000 No.
00:08:06.000 No, yeah.
00:08:07.000 So that's what I grew up with.
00:08:08.000 You know, guys named like Lowlife and all these guys.
00:08:10.000 And my mother was great because they would come in, you know.
00:08:13.000 My mother was sweet because she would only know their, you know. 0.96
00:08:17.000 The biker names? 0.63
00:08:18.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:08:21.000 Hello, shithead. 0.99
00:08:22.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00
00:08:24.000 Lowlife showed up with a shirt that said, Harley's the best, fuck the rest. 0.99
00:08:27.000 He's like, Lowlife, not in my house. 0.99
00:08:30.000 Sorry, Mrs. G. And they had to turn the shirt on. 0.98
00:08:33.000 Oh, that's hilarious.
00:08:34.000 So I grew up with bikers, and it wasn't until later on I realized, oh, you know, some bikers aren't rad.
00:08:40.000 You know what I mean?
00:08:41.000 Like...
00:08:41.000 You know.
00:08:43.000 Oh, I see.
00:08:43.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:08:44.000 Like, I saw him.
00:08:44.000 I'd go, hey, how are you?
00:08:45.000 Like, they were nice guys.
00:08:46.000 So you associated bikers...
00:08:47.000 To me, they were always nice, yeah.
00:08:48.000 ...with being, like, cool, fun guys.
00:08:50.000 Yeah.
00:08:50.000 And my brother had a lot of clout in that world.
00:08:52.000 So, yeah, so everyone was cool.
00:08:53.000 But then later on, I was like, oh, some of these guys aren't so awesome.
00:08:56.000 But...
00:08:56.000 So basically, bikers are like bears at the dump.
00:08:59.000 Like, they look cool, but stay in the car.
00:09:01.000 Yeah.
00:09:02.000 Yeah.
00:09:02.000 Or in your case.
00:09:03.000 I had an idea that I forgot.
00:09:06.000 And you're not going to go with it, but it reminded me of...
00:09:08.000 I was...
00:09:10.000 Because I was reading people's tweets and they were asking what am I up to next, you know, for the next movie.
00:09:15.000 But there was a movie I wrote that I even thought of you, but I know you don't act and everything.
00:09:19.000 It kind of came up on it.
00:09:21.000 Yeah, you won't do it.
00:09:22.000 What is it?
00:09:23.000 You won't do it.
00:09:24.000 I won't do it?
00:09:24.000 I don't know.
00:09:26.000 It's about an alcoholic clown? 0.96
00:09:27.000 No, no, no, no. 0.99
00:09:29.000 No, it's a gay Billy Jack movie.
00:09:31.000 Because I love Billy Jack.
00:09:35.000 Come on, man.
00:09:37.000 Come on, man.
00:09:38.000 This would be perfect for you. 1.00
00:09:40.000 Do I have to fuck anybody? 1.00
00:09:41.000 Well, it's implied. 1.00
00:09:43.000 It's implied.
00:09:45.000 Well, it's all tasteful.
00:09:46.000 But it's like from the guy who shot a baby on camera in a movie.
00:09:51.000 It's all tasteful.
00:09:54.000 No, it's...
00:09:57.000 I was married at the time, and I said to my wife, I go, I'm tired of being broke.
00:10:01.000 I'm going to write a genre picture.
00:10:02.000 I loved Billy Jack movies when I was a kid.
00:10:05.000 So I started writing it.
00:10:06.000 I was about 40 pages in, and she's like, how's it going? 0.64
00:10:09.000 I'm like, well, he's gay now. 0.96
00:10:13.000 And she goes, so I'm just going to keep renting?
00:10:16.000 We're not going to get a home?
00:10:17.000 I go, yeah, pretty much.
00:10:19.000 And I was talking to Gus Van Zandt.
00:10:21.000 I said, I want to write an action film.
00:10:25.000 Like if you were a 13-year-old gay boy, it would be the coolest movie you saw besides the 300. So it's just classic Billy Jack. 0.92
00:10:36.000 He goes into the bar and he's trying to have a drink, Redneck Town. 0.94
00:10:39.000 And he's like, hey, Fag, I'm going to have to ask you to stop using that word. 0.97
00:10:42.000 He's like, what are you going to do? 0.99
00:10:45.000 Well, I'm going to shatter his kneecap.
00:10:48.000 Oh, Billy Jack style. 0.66
00:10:49.000 Yeah, the whole thing.
00:10:50.000 And I'm going to shatter your windpipe.
00:10:53.000 You know, it goes through the whole list.
00:10:54.000 And you want to know something? 0.96
00:10:56.000 There's not a goddamn thing you can do about it. 0.96
00:10:58.000 And then it says, and he does. 0.99
00:10:59.000 And then he goes back, he kicks ass, goes back to the bar, finishes that drink that he was trying to drink and puts it down. 0.98
00:11:06.000 And he says to the bartender, is there a decent place for a man to stay in this town? 0.99
00:11:11.000 And then it cuts and he's in bed with that dude.
00:11:13.000 Oh, God.
00:11:14.000 Come on, Joe!
00:11:18.000 Come on, Joe!
00:11:19.000 I didn't even get done moaning.
00:11:21.000 Come on! 0.61
00:11:22.000 Come on! 0.61
00:11:22.000 Reinvent! 0.61
00:11:23.000 Well, I mean, look at Brokeback Mountain.
00:11:24.000 I mean, it was essentially like a cowboy romance movie with a twist.
00:11:27.000 I mean, it had all the elements of a regular cowboy romance.
00:11:30.000 Yeah, and I wanted this to be, to me, the political...
00:11:33.000 Yeah, it was Billy Jack.
00:11:34.000 Yeah, right?
00:11:34.000 It was his triumph.
00:11:35.000 I didn't even know he had a triumph.
00:11:36.000 Yeah.
00:11:38.000 But I was thinking about...
00:11:39.000 Do you remember...
00:11:40.000 Like Jay Leno.
00:11:40.000 Do you remember that?
00:11:42.000 That's a jacket Jay Leno would wear.
00:11:45.000 When I say what you do to this beautiful flower, it makes me want to go nuts! 0.98
00:11:50.000 Two Jews walking to a bar. 0.96
00:11:52.000 They buy it!
00:11:54.000 But I wanted him to have the bike that...
00:11:57.000 Do you remember Then Came Bronson?
00:11:59.000 You're younger than me.
00:12:00.000 Then Came Bronson.
00:12:01.000 Yeah, he was badass.
00:12:02.000 He was kind of the forerunner to Billy Jack.
00:12:08.000 It was a TV show.
00:12:10.000 There you go.
00:12:13.000 He was a reporter that got fed up, and then he just drove around and...
00:12:18.000 Really? 1.00
00:12:18.000 Yeah, and kicked ass. 1.00
00:12:19.000 Who is this? 0.99
00:12:20.000 See, I'm gonna have the triangle, but it's not gonna be the...
00:12:22.000 Yeah, it's not gonna be that.
00:12:23.000 That's a sweet bike.
00:12:24.000 Yeah, right?
00:12:25.000 Isn't that rad?
00:12:26.000 Oh, yeah.
00:12:26.000 But I'm just gonna have a pink triangle.
00:12:27.000 But he's got the Illuminati on his bike.
00:12:29.000 I know, he's got the Illuminati.
00:12:29.000 I'm just gonna have a pink triangle instead of the Illuminati.
00:12:32.000 Fucking Illuminati. 1.00
00:12:33.000 Look at that. 1.00
00:12:34.000 Yeah.
00:12:35.000 But he was bad.
00:12:36.000 My brother was really into Kim Branson.
00:12:38.000 I love motorcycles.
00:12:39.000 I'm just scared of crashing.
00:12:41.000 Yeah, well, you can't...
00:12:42.000 Well, I mean, you can't have them here, but it's...
00:12:43.000 But it's so dangerous.
00:12:44.000 Yeah, yeah, I know.
00:12:45.000 If I lived somewhere, like, real quiet, I would seriously consider getting one.
00:12:48.000 Yeah.
00:12:49.000 I think it would be awesome.
00:12:50.000 And that's, like, yeah, and growing up in Central New York, you could do that, but not here...
00:12:54.000 Or my daughter wouldn't allow me to do that. 0.96
00:12:56.000 She would...
00:12:57.000 She just made it really clear.
00:12:59.000 Yeah.
00:13:00.000 They're just so much fun, but it's just...
00:13:01.000 It doesn't seem worth...
00:13:03.000 The risk.
00:13:04.000 Yeah, it's bad here. 0.94
00:13:06.000 So you had a maniac brother.
00:13:09.000 So that's a lot of people's perception of hunters. 0.95
00:13:12.000 Is that hunters are crazy people?
00:13:13.000 Well, my brother was just outside.
00:13:16.000 There are a lot of people like that, though, that are hunters.
00:13:18.000 That's one of the things that hunters want to deny.
00:13:20.000 But my brother...
00:13:22.000 Also still had his ethics like he ate what he killed and he sold I mean, he you know, he was a trapper He just didn't like the man.
00:13:31.000 Yeah, I get it.
00:13:32.000 There was one time where he was eluding the warden and It's just It's just all the story so they took off on a lake which wasn't thought So they lost their car.
00:13:51.000 Oh no.
00:13:51.000 They drove on a lake that wasn't thawed?
00:13:54.000 He once took acid and went fishing in the swan pond because they had these big carp in there.
00:14:01.000 So he was tripping balls fishing.
00:14:04.000 It was like a public pond or something like that?
00:14:06.000 Oh yeah, it's like where you'd go take your family.
00:14:09.000 Throw bread out for the carp.
00:14:11.000 Yeah, I remember once Oh, what was that guy's name?
00:14:16.000 Big Mitch.
00:14:17.000 I went to an Allman Brothers concert when I was like 12. Whoa.
00:14:22.000 And Mitch had been to Nam, and he was tripping, and he was totally...
00:14:31.000 He was seeing Charlie in the parking lot while he's driving the car.
00:14:36.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:14:38.000 Oh, my God.
00:14:40.000 Yeah.
00:14:40.000 So that was my upbringing.
00:14:43.000 Wow.
00:14:43.000 So we got on this from Hunters.
00:14:46.000 Yeah, but there is a...
00:14:47.000 You know, it's funny.
00:14:48.000 I'm vegan, but I have more respect for people that actually kill the animal.
00:14:54.000 Would you eat eggs?
00:14:56.000 No, no.
00:14:57.000 I'm not anymore.
00:14:58.000 I mean, I did for a long time.
00:14:59.000 But I'm not, like, opposed to other people doing it.
00:15:02.000 And I actually... 0.99
00:15:03.000 I'm not trying to kiss your ass. 1.00
00:15:04.000 I have respect for people that kill it because then they're not removed from it. 1.00
00:15:07.000 You know what I mean?
00:15:07.000 There's this weird thing when you just...
00:15:10.000 You know, that's the weird part to me. 0.87
00:15:13.000 Well, it's dark, because you don't know where it came from, so that sort of, it reduces your responsibility, and you don't really have to look into where the meat came from, and then that's where factory farming comes from, because we're sort of ignorant to...
00:15:29.000 And I grew up eating game, you know, venison, and there's seven people in the family.
00:15:35.000 Why wouldn't you eat eggs?
00:15:36.000 Because you don't like the idea of chickens in captivity, or you don't want them for health reasons?
00:15:41.000 I just stopped eating them.
00:15:44.000 I had a heart attack a little bit a while ago.
00:15:47.000 It's funny, when I got off of that stuff, my heart's in great shape.
00:15:54.000 Which, when I had the heart attack, I knew I wasn't dying.
00:15:58.000 It just recently dawned on me.
00:15:59.000 I was thinking about it.
00:16:01.000 My thoughts weren't like, oh, I'm going to die.
00:16:04.000 My thought was, I'm going to have to lose weight.
00:16:08.000 I was really angry.
00:16:09.000 I'm going to have to work out.
00:16:11.000 I was furious over that idea.
00:16:13.000 That's fine.
00:16:14.000 I've been talking about this on stage, but it's true.
00:16:18.000 After a few weeks of walking an hour after dinner, I was like, I don't care.
00:16:23.000 But a cat was missing in the neighborhood.
00:16:26.000 And that would motivate me to walk.
00:16:28.000 Oh, to look for the cat?
00:16:29.000 I was going to find it.
00:16:30.000 But there's no missing cats.
00:16:32.000 Yeah, I know.
00:16:33.000 It's coyotes.
00:16:34.000 But I found a cat that I thought was the cat.
00:16:37.000 And then I carried it about...
00:16:40.000 Maybe a quarter of a mile back to the telephone pole.
00:16:42.000 It was the wrong cat?
00:16:43.000 Yeah, and I stole a cat.
00:16:45.000 Did you bring it back?
00:16:46.000 Yeah, I love animals.
00:16:48.000 So I brought it to the house where I thought it lived at, and then I knock on this woman's door, and I did.
00:16:54.000 And then she opened the door, and the cat ran in.
00:16:57.000 I swear to God, and then the woman goes, she looks left and right, she goes, and goes in like, I guess the cat's knocking on the door now. 0.72
00:17:06.000 How bizarre.
00:17:07.000 She didn't know you were there? 0.80
00:17:08.000 No, because I didn't want to go, hey, I think I stole your cat. 0.99
00:17:11.000 So she just thought the fucking cat knocked on the door? 1.00
00:17:13.000 I call bullshit because they have furry little knuckles. 1.00
00:17:17.000 Oh. 0.99
00:17:18.000 She wouldn't hear it.
00:17:19.000 Well, when I let my cat out, he will meow.
00:17:22.000 Because I don't let him out for long periods of time, but I'll let him out during the day if he wants to wander around the yard, because he'll just hang around the yard.
00:17:28.000 But I worry about hawks.
00:17:30.000 Hawks or rebels at night.
00:17:32.000 We have coyotes in my backyard, and I live in Silver Lake.
00:17:36.000 Yeah, coyotes are everywhere.
00:17:37.000 They're all throughout the entire 50 states.
00:17:39.000 Yeah.
00:17:40.000 If you're interested in the history of the coyote, there's an amazing podcast called Meat Eater.
00:17:47.000 It's by this guy, Steve Rinella.
00:17:49.000 And he interviews this guy, Dan Flores, who's a historian, a wildlife historian.
00:17:54.000 He's a professor.
00:17:55.000 And he wrote a book recently on coyotes.
00:17:58.000 Coyotes were originally only Western animals.
00:18:02.000 And they used to call them prairie wolves.
00:18:04.000 That's what they used to call them.
00:18:05.000 They're actually a type of wolf.
00:18:06.000 It's a small wolf.
00:18:08.000 Wow.
00:18:08.000 And when people started hunting coyotes and killing coyotes and then reintroducing gray wolves into like Yellowstone Park and all sorts of areas in Idaho and North America, that's when the coyotes spread across the entire range of the continental United States.
00:18:23.000 Now there's coyotes in every city in the country.
00:18:26.000 Yeah, there's coyotes in the Adirondacks in New York now. 0.80
00:18:29.000 Yeah, when you kill them, they have more babies.
00:18:31.000 This is what's crazy. 0.96
00:18:32.000 Like when you hear coyotes screaming at night, what they're doing is like roll call apparently.
00:18:37.000 This is all according to this Dan Flores guy.
00:18:39.000 And they call out, and when there's less response, like when one of them's missing, it triggers a response in the female to have larger litters.
00:18:47.000 Wow.
00:18:48.000 Significantly larger.
00:18:49.000 So it's just that crying is the equivalent of...
00:18:53.000 Bueller!
00:18:54.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:18:56.000 So they had apparently a number of coyotes that they had estimated in Yellowstone.
00:19:02.000 Then they brought in the gray wolves.
00:19:04.000 And the gray wolves are different than red wolves and a couple other wolves that are pretty much that stayed in steady population numbers in North America.
00:19:13.000 Well, when the gray wolves came back in North America, they didn't treat coyotes like friends.
00:19:18.000 They killed them.
00:19:19.000 And so when they started killing them, as opposed to interbreeding with them, like you've heard of a coy wolf?
00:19:24.000 Do you know what that is?
00:19:25.000 That's a big thing on the East Coast, which mostly red wolves and coyotes are breeding.
00:19:29.000 They're creating a larger, smarter coyote.
00:19:31.000 And it's because coyotes really are wolves.
00:19:33.000 So when they started doing this, they killed 50% of the coyotes.
00:19:37.000 The coyote population dropped down to 50%.
00:19:39.000 But then, because they have larger litters when one of them gets killed, now it's ramped up in 20 years, higher than it was before the reintroduction of the wolves.
00:19:49.000 You're a survivor, man.
00:19:51.000 Yeah.
00:19:51.000 And I have to say, I mean, they're creepy when you see them, the way they move.
00:19:57.000 I saw one scale a wall, like, just climb over it.
00:20:01.000 One killed one of my chickens.
00:20:02.000 I saw it run over a wall with my chicken.
00:20:04.000 Six-foot wall, hopped over it like it was nothing.
00:20:06.000 Yeah, it's weird.
00:20:08.000 It's like human in the way it walks.
00:20:11.000 They're super intelligent.
00:20:11.000 Yeah, but I have to say, as scary as they are and all that, there's a part of me that goes, sorry, man, I know I'm in your yard.
00:20:18.000 You know what I mean?
00:20:19.000 I realize that, you know, I'm the intruder.
00:20:24.000 Not really.
00:20:25.000 Really?
00:20:25.000 No, not really.
00:20:26.000 You don't feel that about coyotes?
00:20:27.000 No, no, because, look, they go where the food is, we go where the food is, we're all sharing this space together.
00:20:33.000 Okay.
00:20:33.000 It's not theirs, it's not ours.
00:20:35.000 It's just weird, though.
00:20:36.000 It's weird.
00:20:37.000 I mean, you see this, you say it's a wolf, I see a wolf in my backyard.
00:20:40.000 But they hang around where people are.
00:20:42.000 Yeah.
00:20:43.000 Is that why?
00:20:44.000 Because we're where the food is.
00:20:46.000 We're also where the rodents are because we have a lot of trash.
00:20:49.000 But they're really important because they kill off all the rats.
00:20:52.000 That's really important.
00:20:53.000 They kill the rats.
00:20:54.000 They kill rabbits.
00:20:55.000 They kill a lot of things that would get out of hand, population-wise, if it wasn't for them.
00:21:00.000 Well, I don't let Anderson Cooper out or Alice Cooper.
00:21:06.000 Those are my cats.
00:21:07.000 Yeah, not during the day, for sure.
00:21:09.000 Or not at night, excuse me.
00:21:10.000 Yeah, I'm not going to let them out.
00:21:11.000 You just don't do it at all?
00:21:12.000 Nah, nah.
00:21:14.000 That actually reminds me of a story.
00:21:17.000 I don't know if I want to tell that story.
00:21:21.000 A woman left a whip at my house. 1.00
00:21:24.000 A whip?
00:21:25.000 Yeah.
00:21:26.000 Whip it good?
00:21:26.000 Yeah, and I have to say that I wasn't...
00:21:30.000 I don't think I'm a prude, but...
00:21:33.000 And she's a very sweet person, but she was like...
00:21:36.000 I know where she was going, obviously.
00:21:39.000 Yeah.
00:21:39.000 She comes over with a whip.
00:21:40.000 Well, she surprised me with it.
00:21:42.000 Surprise?
00:21:43.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:21:44.000 I don't have any crops.
00:21:50.000 So, here's the thing.
00:21:52.000 I make this joke, which is true. 0.73
00:21:54.000 I retired from acting.
00:21:57.000 The same time people stopped hiring me.
00:21:59.000 But no, I really don't like to act.
00:22:01.000 I understand how you...
00:22:02.000 It's...
00:22:03.000 I don't like it.
00:22:05.000 I don't like it either.
00:22:06.000 And no one believes you when you say that.
00:22:08.000 Yeah.
00:22:08.000 They think you're just...
00:22:09.000 They think you're lying.
00:22:10.000 And they think I'm lying.
00:22:11.000 I love directing.
00:22:11.000 I love writing.
00:22:12.000 I love being behind the scenes.
00:22:14.000 I love making stuff.
00:22:15.000 I like doing stand-up.
00:22:16.000 But acting's hard.
00:22:18.000 Back in the day when, you know, when I was in movies going...
00:22:21.000 I mean, that wasn't acting.
00:22:23.000 You know, if I forgot a line...
00:22:26.000 Come on, let's go! 0.99
00:22:27.000 So I don't know if that was acting, but she was like...
00:22:31.000 So when she said, she said, I like to be dominated, so that meant now I have an acting part.
00:22:38.000 You know what I mean?
00:22:39.000 You know what I mean?
00:22:40.000 I like to be dominated.
00:22:41.000 I'm like, line?
00:22:44.000 Line? 0.98
00:22:45.000 I'm sorry, I'm not a fuck, you know? 0.99
00:22:47.000 Oh, God. 0.99
00:22:48.000 And this sounds very...
00:22:50.000 Almost borscht belt, but I did say this.
00:22:52.000 She goes, I've been a bad girl.
00:22:54.000 And I said, well, we're all flawed.
00:22:59.000 I really said that.
00:23:00.000 That's like a Woody Allen movie.
00:23:03.000 I did say that.
00:23:04.000 And then we laughed.
00:23:05.000 And I would just rather... 1.00
00:23:06.000 Let's have sex. 0.99
00:23:08.000 Let's not... 0.98
00:23:09.000 I don't want to act.
00:23:10.000 Yeah, I'm that way, too.
00:23:11.000 I'm not into choking anybody.
00:23:13.000 Well, with you, that would...
00:23:16.000 But I mean, it takes on a whole other level.
00:23:19.000 I don't get the connection.
00:23:23.000 I mean, I get where someone could get the connection.
00:23:26.000 You know, I was talking to a friend of mine, my friend Chris Ryan, who wrote this book, Sex at Dawn.
00:23:31.000 He's a professor, a PhD.
00:23:32.000 And he's a really interesting guy.
00:23:34.000 And he was talking about where people get fetishes from.
00:23:37.000 And that when you're sort of imprinted at a young age, as you're going through puberty, sometimes very odd things will happen.
00:23:44.000 And those things will happen.
00:23:45.000 You'll connect those things because they happened with you sexually.
00:23:48.000 And they sort of imprint in your system. 1.00
00:23:51.000 And he used it as an example of how someone could get their dick sucked by a guy when they're like 13 or 14 and not even be gay, but really like getting your dick sucked by guys. 1.00
00:24:03.000 Like you get turned on by like guys sucking guys dicks or something. 1.00
00:24:06.000 Like you can actually like imprint in your mind. 1.00
00:24:09.000 But meanwhile you're attracted to women.
00:24:11.000 But you have this like weird kink for this one thing. 0.91
00:24:14.000 It's very strange.
00:24:15.000 But give me an example of other ones.
00:24:17.000 Feet.
00:24:18.000 Foot fetishes.
00:24:18.000 Yeah, how does that work?
00:24:19.000 Why would you get into feet?
00:24:21.000 I don't know. 0.98
00:24:22.000 Somebody rubbed their feet on you right before you had sex. 1.00
00:24:25.000 Some girl rubbed her feet on your dick and was into it and just playing around. 1.00
00:24:29.000 It can happen. 1.00
00:24:31.000 I mean, I'm sure anything can happen.
00:24:33.000 Well, obviously, there's some things going on between a person like you or I who doesn't want to hit anybody with a whip and someone who's really into it.
00:24:42.000 Yeah, also though, I mean, yeah, there is something different.
00:24:45.000 Something's happening.
00:24:46.000 But it's not like I'm like, ew, that's disgusting and weird.
00:24:48.000 It just doesn't do anything for me.
00:24:50.000 Right, it's just not your thing.
00:24:51.000 It's just weird.
00:24:52.000 It just takes me out of the game.
00:24:53.000 Yeah.
00:24:54.000 Well, I don't ever want to associate sex and violence together.
00:24:59.000 I just don't think that's a good combination.
00:25:00.000 In my world, I don't like it.
00:25:03.000 But I get it. 0.98
00:25:04.000 I have a buddy of mine who, him and his girlfriend, they put ball gags on each other and beat the shit out of each other, and they love each other. 0.96
00:25:10.000 They're great.
00:25:11.000 I mean, they don't come away marked or anything like that.
00:25:14.000 But there's some hair pulling and some smacking around.
00:25:16.000 Well, but you're a fighter, you know what I mean?
00:25:23.000 So...
00:25:24.000 You know what I mean?
00:25:25.000 So it's too...
00:25:27.000 It's like...
00:25:28.000 It's ruining something you love.
00:25:33.000 Yes.
00:25:34.000 Yeah, I guess in that way.
00:25:35.000 It's two completely different things in your mind.
00:25:38.000 Sort of, but the way I look at that...
00:25:40.000 See, that's the kind of violence where someone's like, hit me, I want you to hit me.
00:25:45.000 That is not...
00:25:47.000 Martial arts.
00:25:48.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:25:50.000 It's not even remotely the same thing.
00:25:53.000 Even if it's not even connected with sex, I don't have anything to do with that.
00:25:56.000 The idea of martial arts is someone doesn't want to be hit, you're trying to hit them, and it becomes this crazy game with extreme consequences, extreme health consequences. 0.99
00:26:06.000 There's nothing that's so different than holding someone down with a rape choke and just smacking them in the face over and over again until they start crying while you're fucking them. 0.99
00:26:16.000 People are into weird shit like that and my brain doesn't understand those connections. 1.00
00:26:22.000 But some people do. 0.99
00:26:23.000 Like that guy, the CBC radio host.
00:26:26.000 Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:26.000 In Canada that had all these girls saying that he just was into beating them up.
00:26:31.000 And he would say he wants to have rough sex. 0.99
00:26:33.000 And they thought, you know, hey, I'll be a little hair pulling. 0.99
00:26:35.000 Right, right, right. 0.96
00:26:35.000 Spanking. 0.96
00:26:36.000 He's punching them in the face and shit. 1.00
00:26:38.000 You know, allegedly. 1.00
00:26:40.000 I mean, I don't know who's...
00:26:41.000 Right.
00:26:42.000 Apparently, he won the trial, right?
00:26:44.000 They dismissed the case.
00:26:45.000 Yeah.
00:26:45.000 And so now they're going to retry him, I guess, under some other case or other people.
00:26:51.000 Well, then, I mean, then, yeah.
00:26:52.000 There was some lying, apparently, by the girls.
00:26:55.000 And also, they had 5,000 text messages between the two of them going back and forth about the details of the case and what they should say and what they shouldn't say.
00:27:03.000 So, obviously, there was some collusion.
00:27:05.000 Obviously, there was some deception or allegedly some deception. 0.99
00:27:09.000 But what the fuck is it? 0.99
00:27:11.000 And this guy was, like, identified as a male feminist. 1.00
00:27:14.000 He was like, Mr. Softball.
00:27:15.000 Spookin', Mr. Liberal, Mr. Public Radio.
00:27:18.000 But that's actually...
00:27:20.000 The Crown dropped...
00:27:22.000 Is this really recently?
00:27:23.000 Yeah, six days ago.
00:27:24.000 Okay, so he signed a peace bond and the Crown drops a sexual assault case.
00:27:29.000 What does that mean?
00:27:30.000 Yeah, what is a peace bond? 1.00
00:27:31.000 Some Canadian shit. 1.00
00:27:33.000 What is a peace bond? 1.00
00:27:34.000 Click on that.
00:27:35.000 Common and critical first highlighted up at the top.
00:27:38.000 Yeah, there you go.
00:27:41.000 What is a peace bond?
00:27:42.000 They're fairly common in criminal cases, defense loyalists.
00:27:45.000 Boy, that poor guy lost like 10 years of his life through this whole thing.
00:27:48.000 Peace bond isn't unusual as a way to resolve a criminal case as a lawyer in the wake of the news that former CBC broadcaster John Gomeschi is expected to sign one to conclude his second sexual assault case.
00:28:01.000 A source who did not want to be identified told CBC News that the case will not go to trial in June as previously scheduled.
00:28:06.000 Instead, the charge is expected to be dealt with on Wednesday.
00:28:09.000 The incident is alleged to have happened in 2008. Counsel's cases are resolved via peace bond.
00:28:15.000 I don't know what the fuck that means. 0.71
00:28:17.000 A resolution. 0.98
00:28:18.000 What is a peace bond?
00:28:18.000 Still not saying.
00:28:20.000 Yeah, I'm not sure.
00:28:21.000 He's an odd dude, though.
00:28:23.000 Because he was like, Mr. Liberal.
00:28:25.000 Yeah, but that's classic.
00:28:27.000 Yeah, right. 0.98
00:28:27.000 Those are the guys who beat the shit out of one. 0.98
00:28:31.000 Those guys, those guys. 0.84
00:28:35.000 But you know how many of those guys have rage issues?
00:28:38.000 Right.
00:28:39.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:28:41.000 There's so many of these hippie folks, and they have this rage in it.
00:28:49.000 It's just really strange.
00:28:50.000 It is.
00:28:51.000 Yeah, it's not.
00:28:52.000 Well, also I find that a lot of guys who identify as male feminists, what happened for a lot of them is they had rough childhoods and they were rejected by women. 0.98
00:29:02.000 So they become this savior of women from all these other asshole-ish men. 0.96
00:29:06.000 And so they become the guy that's different. 1.00
00:29:09.000 But they're womanizers, yeah. 1.00
00:29:10.000 Well, it's not even that they're womanizers.
00:29:12.000 What they are is they're just a guy.
00:29:13.000 But they're a weak guy, and they're suffering from the trauma of, like, I have a friend, it's not a friend anymore, but I had a friend when I was younger who had, he wasn't an attractive guy, and he would have real issues with women not like him.
00:29:28.000 He would get so upset.
00:29:30.000 And he started, over the course of the six to seven years that I knew him, he started associating women with pain.
00:29:37.000 Like, they would reject him and they would be mean to him.
00:29:40.000 And he was going to all the wrong places, like going to like, you know, hot spots and getting bottle service and, you know, and that was the type of people he was attracting.
00:29:48.000 And so they just wanted to have his drinks and not want to have sex with him.
00:29:52.000 And he would associate women with pain and frustration and rejection.
00:29:57.000 And so he started becoming this angry guy.
00:30:00.000 And I watched this sort of metamorphosis.
00:30:02.000 And I was trying to analyze it.
00:30:04.000 Like, you know, I was trying to do like the Louis Leakey anthropology thing. 0.97
00:30:08.000 I'm trying to figure out what the fuck is causing this stress and pain and anger. 0.94
00:30:12.000 And it's just purely an association game. 0.98
00:30:15.000 It's like how some people start looking at Hollywood. 1.00
00:30:17.000 Like, Hollywood's all bullshit, man. 1.00
00:30:19.000 I'm tired as fuck. 1.00
00:30:20.000 Why? 0.99
00:30:20.000 Why? 0.99
00:30:20.000 Well, because you keep going to auditions and they keep turning it down. 0.99
00:30:23.000 Right. 1.00
00:30:23.000 And so you just decide, well, fuck this place, man. 1.00
00:30:25.000 This place is fake. 1.00
00:30:26.000 But meanwhile, if you got scooped up when you're 20 years old and rocketed together, yeah, you would love this place.
00:30:33.000 You'd be the guy at the red carpet.
00:30:34.000 You would be like the toast of the town.
00:30:36.000 You'd be so happy. 1.00
00:30:37.000 And so I think a lot of these guys that identify as male feminists, I think they're just pussies. 0.99
00:30:44.000 And what happened is when they were young, they got walked over, they got trampled, and they're trying to figure out what is the pattern of behavior that I have to follow for me to separate myself from these men that have ruined these girls' lives. 0.99
00:30:57.000 I know.
00:30:58.000 I'll offer myself up as the solution. 0.99
00:31:00.000 You know, as a feminist, I just feel like you've just really been fucked over. 0.99
00:31:04.000 Well, but I mean... 0.99
00:31:07.000 There's a couple things.
00:31:08.000 I run into the other guys who, Crimmins has a term, feminizers, who are acting all sensitive but still pulling mad wool. 0.98
00:31:19.000 You know what I mean?
00:31:19.000 There's a lot of that.
00:31:20.000 Yeah, it's like, I understand.
00:31:22.000 It's like, you're the same guy.
00:31:23.000 You're the same guy.
00:31:24.000 You're the same dude.
00:31:25.000 You got a different hustle.
00:31:26.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:31:26.000 Yeah, the feminizers.
00:31:28.000 Oh, yeah, man.
00:31:30.000 But, you know, I mean, at the end of the day, feminists, it's, you know, basic human rights. 1.00
00:31:34.000 I'm all for that.
00:31:35.000 Of course.
00:31:37.000 The problem is the definition.
00:31:40.000 And those guys who I question their integrity.
00:31:45.000 Yes.
00:31:46.000 Well, men are very difficult in that regard.
00:31:49.000 It's very difficult while they're sexually viable.
00:31:52.000 Because they're looking for attention, they're trying to score.
00:31:54.000 And when they're trying to score, they try any sort of combination of words that might be possible.
00:31:59.000 Like, I met this one guy, he said he's a feminist, and then he told me he's polyamorous. 0.99
00:32:04.000 I go, oh, you're a pussyhound! 1.00
00:32:06.000 You're a pussyhound! 1.00
00:32:07.000 I just, no, I just, I don't want to control my woman. 1.00
00:32:10.000 I don't want to, I respect her pleasure, her right to seek pleasure. 1.00
00:32:15.000 Oh, you fucker. 1.00
00:32:16.000 You fucker. 1.00
00:32:17.000 I see what you're doing. 1.00
00:32:20.000 I respect her, man.
00:32:23.000 Yeah, I think...
00:32:24.000 Yeah.
00:32:25.000 I mean, I don't know.
00:32:27.000 When...
00:32:27.000 When...
00:32:29.000 First of all, when did men start becoming feminists?
00:32:31.000 Was it Alan Alda? 1.00
00:32:33.000 Did he pull that shit first? 1.00
00:32:35.000 No, I think it's... 1.00
00:32:36.000 I think it's...
00:32:37.000 But, you know, the early 70s, 60s, you know...
00:32:41.000 They start saying it?
00:32:41.000 I mean, I'm sure, like, Warren Beatty was, even though, you know...
00:32:44.000 Was he?
00:32:44.000 I guarantee you he was.
00:32:46.000 But he was such a pussy. 1.00
00:32:47.000 I know. 1.00
00:32:47.000 How is that possible? 1.00
00:32:48.000 I know.
00:32:48.000 I guarantee you he was.
00:32:50.000 Maybe.
00:32:51.000 Maybe.
00:32:52.000 I think, you know, people don't like the term egalitarian.
00:32:55.000 They think it's a cop-out.
00:32:56.000 Like, oh, no, no, no.
00:32:57.000 If you really cared about women's rights, you'd identify yourself as a feminist. 1.00
00:33:00.000 Like, no, I like humans.
00:33:02.000 I like all of them.
00:33:03.000 I like nice women. 1.00
00:33:04.000 I like nice men.
00:33:05.000 I like people that are fun to be around.
00:33:07.000 But, I mean, there are obviously major things, you know, the pay gap is a real thing.
00:33:11.000 The pay gap is tricky.
00:33:12.000 You ever look into that?
00:33:13.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:33:13.000 It's a lot of political bullshit. 1.00
00:33:15.000 The actual reality pay gap, it's very minor. 0.99
00:33:19.000 There's only a few jobs where women actually do get paid less than men. 1.00
00:33:22.000 What the pay gap is, is overall judging how much money women make versus how much money men make, and not taking into account what jobs they do, what jobs men tend to gravitate towards naturally versus what jobs women tend to gravitate towards naturally.
00:33:39.000 But when they're in the same job with the same sort of production, their actual pay scale is very similar.
00:33:46.000 It's real tricky, man, because you can't deny that some people that are a certain gender, like, they gravitate towards certain occupations.
00:33:55.000 And those occupations might have higher risk.
00:33:57.000 They might have higher pay ceilings.
00:34:00.000 There's a lot of variables.
00:34:02.000 And then you have to take into account women taking time off for raising children, for being pregnant, all those things, having babies, maternity leave.
00:34:09.000 That all gets factored in when you're talking about how much time or how much money people actually make.
00:34:15.000 So if you say women should be paid maternity leave and they should get X amount of money from a corporation, then you're dealing with a totally different argument.
00:34:23.000 And if you do that, then the pay scale changes.
00:34:26.000 Then it goes up a little bit.
00:34:27.000 And if you say, well...
00:34:29.000 Everybody should get paid for the same exact money for the same job.
00:34:33.000 Even still, more men want to do certain jobs in engineering and science, and then when it comes to really dangerous jobs, men are much more likely to die on the job.
00:34:43.000 Men are much more likely to be murdered by other men. 0.98
00:34:47.000 There's a lot of weird shit that has to get factored in. 1.00
00:34:51.000 Yeah. 0.97
00:35:06.000 And then I started actually looking into it.
00:35:08.000 I went, oh, okay.
00:35:09.000 This is complicated.
00:35:10.000 Because it's one of those things where you don't want to be insensitive. 0.99
00:35:13.000 So you don't want to say, that's bullshit. 0.99
00:35:14.000 Women don't get paid any less than men do. 1.00
00:35:16.000 But when you actually do look at the real numbers, that's where they're getting it from.
00:35:20.000 It's not like there's a hundred lawyers...
00:35:23.000 Okay, let's use an example in showbiz, because there is a big difference in actresses and actors' pay. 1.00
00:35:33.000 Are there?
00:35:34.000 Your top actors?
00:35:36.000 Well, the people that can sell the most tickets get the most money. 0.97
00:35:41.000 Like, Jennifer Lawrence gets paid shit piles of money. 1.00
00:35:43.000 And there was that thing where she was saying that she was upset that she didn't get as much money as Bradley Cooper. 0.58
00:35:47.000 But Bradley Cooper was in way more scenes than her.
00:35:50.000 He was in way more of the movie.
00:35:51.000 And he was a bigger star at the time.
00:35:54.000 It's real tricky.
00:35:55.000 Because if Jennifer Lawrence was in a movie with you, she'd get paid way more than you. 0.92
00:35:59.000 Well, that's...
00:36:00.000 But you know what I'm saying?
00:36:00.000 That's a bad example.
00:36:01.000 It's a bad example.
00:36:02.000 I probably would pull more money, but...
00:36:05.000 But you know what I'm saying?
00:36:07.000 It's like if someone is a huge superstar...
00:36:10.000 What's her name from Friends?
00:36:13.000 Jennifer Aniston.
00:36:14.000 Jennifer Aniston in her prime.
00:36:15.000 You know?
00:36:17.000 Or...
00:36:18.000 Matt and Mike and Molly guy, what's the girl's name?
00:36:21.000 Melissa McCarthy.
00:36:23.000 You don't think she makes more than him?
00:36:25.000 Of course she does.
00:36:25.000 She's more popular.
00:36:26.000 She's more famous.
00:36:27.000 She does these giant movies. 0.98
00:36:29.000 She gets paid tons of money. 0.99
00:36:30.000 Amy Schumer gets paid tons of money. 1.00
00:36:32.000 I'm going to change the subject because I was thinking of Back to Your Bears and movies.
00:36:39.000 What was your take on Revenant?
00:36:41.000 I liked it.
00:36:42.000 You know, it's all based on an actual true story, that this guy Steve Rinello from that Meat Eater podcast, who's actually a historian himself in a way, he told me the story, the actual story, where they really did leave this guy for dead, and he really did crawl for a couple miles and figured out a way to survive and got to that guy and killed him.
00:36:59.000 It's a real true story.
00:37:01.000 I thought it was pretty good, man.
00:37:03.000 It's really interesting.
00:37:04.000 But someone who's actually been relatively close to a wild bear, what did you make of the scenes?
00:37:09.000 It looked really realistic.
00:37:11.000 People do occasionally survive bear attacks like that.
00:37:15.000 Because a lot of times the bears are just trying to protect themselves or they're trying to protect their cubs. 0.99
00:37:20.000 You fuck up, you get too close to their cubs. 0.99
00:37:22.000 That's a lot of it. 1.00
00:37:23.000 Yeah, that's the thing about bears is that you may not know that you're between the cubs.
00:37:29.000 Yeah, you might not have any idea.
00:37:30.000 Yeah.
00:37:31.000 You gotta be super careful if you're in the area.
00:37:33.000 I'm just trying to...
00:37:33.000 I'm worried about you.
00:37:37.000 I know what I'm doing.
00:37:38.000 I mean, there's a certain amount of risk.
00:37:40.000 There's a certain amount of risk.
00:37:41.000 Yeah, that's famous last words.
00:37:42.000 No, watch me.
00:37:43.000 I know what I'm doing.
00:37:44.000 Let me try this.
00:37:45.000 I don't go where grizzlies are.
00:37:47.000 I stay where the black bears are.
00:37:48.000 Black bears. 0.98
00:37:49.000 If I do see a grizzly, we're fucking out of there pretty quickly. 0.97
00:37:52.000 You gotta be careful, but there's a certain amount of risk to it. 0.97
00:37:55.000 Did you see Grizzly Man?
00:37:57.000 Yeah.
00:37:58.000 Many times.
00:37:59.000 I was rooting for the Bears.
00:38:00.000 100%.
00:38:01.000 Yeah, okay, right.
00:38:02.000 I was the same thing.
00:38:03.000 I was like, go Bears. 0.95
00:38:04.000 Well, that's an interesting case because that guy is obviously mentally unbalanced.
00:38:09.000 That movie influenced...
00:38:10.000 Willow Creek, probably more than any other movie.
00:38:12.000 Really?
00:38:13.000 Willow Creek, if people haven't seen it, it's Bob's Bigfoot movie, which we're going to get back to Bigfoot.
00:38:18.000 Well, when Willow Creek came out, I was in the middle of my Bigfoot phase, where it was just ending.
00:38:25.000 And what killed it for me was when I did that sci-fi show with Duncan Trussell, and we went to the Pacific Northwest and hung out with a few Bigfoot hunters for a week.
00:38:33.000 And after a while, we were like, dude...
00:38:37.000 We realized...
00:38:38.000 I had a joke about it.
00:38:39.000 I said, here's what you don't find when you go looking for Bigfoot. 0.97
00:38:42.000 Black people. 0.99
00:38:43.000 You're more likely to find Bigfoot than you are black people looking for Bigfoot. 1.00
00:38:47.000 What you find is hordes of unfuckable white dudes out camping. 0.99
00:38:51.000 And I'm like, this is an undeniable statistic. 0.99
00:38:55.000 I am not gonna lie.
00:38:57.000 That was something I noticed this weekend at the Ohio Bigfoot Conference.
00:39:01.000 Honest to God.
00:39:02.000 How can you not notice it?
00:39:04.000 I was like, it was...
00:39:06.000 It was huge.
00:39:08.000 And at one point, I said, where are the brothers at?
00:39:12.000 They don't exist.
00:39:13.000 There was two guys.
00:39:14.000 There was two black guys?
00:39:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:16.000 They were lost.
00:39:19.000 They were looking for a car show.
00:39:25.000 It's this thing that men do when there's no chance whatsoever.
00:39:28.000 I didn't get that, though.
00:39:29.000 I mean, I truly was, because I shot some stuff in the documentary.
00:39:32.000 I said, hey, man, we need some people of color, which I was told...
00:39:36.000 They don't exist.
00:39:38.000 Yeah.
00:39:39.000 You have to cast them.
00:39:40.000 Did you try?
00:39:41.000 You have to cast them!
00:39:42.000 Did you try women? 0.99
00:39:44.000 Did you get any women? 1.00
00:39:44.000 Oh, sure, sure, sure. 1.00
00:39:45.000 Are they all like the same kind of like Northern California?
00:39:49.000 No, one of my favorite.
00:39:50.000 No makeup.
00:39:50.000 One of my favorite interviews was a gal who was 16 years old.
00:39:54.000 She was quite brilliant.
00:39:56.000 I really loved her.
00:39:57.000 Really?
00:39:57.000 Yeah, she was one of my favorite interviews.
00:40:00.000 Did you talk to Les Stroud?
00:40:02.000 You should talk to Les.
00:40:04.000 I'm not doing a definitive Bigfoot doc.
00:40:07.000 I want to do a short about this conference.
00:40:14.000 That was the idea.
00:40:17.000 So yeah, Bob Gimlin was there, your buddy.
00:40:20.000 Did you ask him about the story?
00:40:23.000 Of course.
00:40:23.000 What is he saying?
00:40:25.000 He tells the story.
00:40:26.000 He tells it like it actually happened?
00:40:28.000 Yeah, one of the things interesting about him is that he talks about the amount of time he actually got to see Bigfoot versus Roger Patterson who was scrambling around with the camera.
00:40:37.000 And what did he say?
00:40:39.000 Oh, he was just talking about...
00:40:40.000 He felt that he didn't film a lot, you know?
00:40:43.000 And he didn't.
00:40:44.000 I mean, it's only 942 frames.
00:40:45.000 That they saw it more than the film?
00:40:47.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:40:48.000 Or he did.
00:40:49.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:40:49.000 That's because he helped the guy get the fucking suit on. 1.00
00:40:54.000 So obviously fake. 1.00
00:40:56.000 Wait, do you know...
00:40:57.000 Did we talk about the...
00:41:00.000 Bob Hieronymus?
00:41:02.000 No, no.
00:41:02.000 We talked about that.
00:41:04.000 But did you...
00:41:04.000 The John Landis...
00:41:06.000 John Landis, the film director?
00:41:07.000 Yeah.
00:41:08.000 What about him?
00:41:09.000 Well, I'm really sorry.
00:41:11.000 I was up since 4 a.m.
00:41:12.000 Who was the guy in Argo that...
00:41:16.000 Yeah, that was the movie where John Goodman's playing the makeup effects guy.
00:41:21.000 I don't believe I saw that movie.
00:41:23.000 Right.
00:41:23.000 So that's a real guy.
00:41:25.000 And he worked...
00:41:27.000 I believe he worked with Landis.
00:41:30.000 Yeah, John Chambers.
00:41:32.000 And he had worked with Landis.
00:41:33.000 And so there was a rumor that John Landis is in the Paddy suit.
00:41:39.000 In the actual Bigfoot suit itself?
00:41:42.000 Yeah.
00:41:42.000 Oh, I never heard that rumor.
00:41:43.000 So I wanted...
00:41:45.000 I wrote to John Landis.
00:41:48.000 I asked...
00:41:50.000 It does not go well.
00:41:53.000 I said...
00:41:55.000 I say to my agents, because they're always looking for me to try to do something that makes money, so I go, hey, I got this idea for a TV show I want to talk to John Lannis about.
00:42:04.000 I don't know John Lannis.
00:42:05.000 I don't have an idea for a TV show.
00:42:06.000 Can you get me his email?
00:42:07.000 So they get me John Lannis' email, and I write him.
00:42:11.000 Hey, this is Bobcat Goldthwait.
00:42:13.000 I'm writing an article for a magazine and I was wondering if you'd like to talk to me about this rumor about you possibly being in the Patterson-Gimlin footage, you know, in a suit playing Patty.
00:42:27.000 Five minutes, bink! 1.00
00:42:28.000 I get an answer back.
00:42:30.000 He goes, how did you get my email?
00:42:33.000 That's how it starts.
00:42:34.000 Who are you writing an article for?
00:42:37.000 Most certainly not in a Bigfoot suit.
00:42:40.000 That's hilarious.
00:42:42.000 I went back and forth and kind of calmed him down a bit.
00:42:48.000 It's such a bad suit, too.
00:42:49.000 It's not a bad suit.
00:42:51.000 You see, you keep saying that.
00:42:54.000 It's terrible.
00:42:55.000 What is it about that footage?
00:42:57.000 It's obviously a man.
00:43:01.000 You know why it's obviously a man?
00:43:02.000 Why?
00:43:03.000 Because it looks like a man in a suit.
00:43:05.000 There's no other animal that looks like a man in a suit. 1.00
00:43:08.000 You don't look at a giraffe and go, that looks like a fucking dude in a giraffe suit. 1.00
00:43:11.000 But you look at that Bigfoot and you go, that looks like a fucking man. 1.00
00:43:15.000 It's walking like a man. 1.00
00:43:16.000 It has the same sort of stride.
00:43:18.000 It just has longer arms. 0.99
00:43:20.000 Because he's got football helmet shoulder pads, or football shoulder pads on, and his arms, he's got these long fucking fake ass arms. 0.98
00:43:29.000 So like, the whole thing looks fake and he's swinging his arms. 0.99
00:43:31.000 Why do they have breasts? 1.00
00:43:32.000 Why not?
00:43:33.000 Well, how do you know, first of all? 0.83
00:43:34.000 It does have breasts. 0.95
00:43:35.000 Oh, here we go again.
00:43:36.000 We've done this a lot.
00:43:38.000 Yeah, here it goes.
00:43:39.000 Did you know that- Now, what do you see breasts? 0.99
00:43:41.000 Right there!
00:43:42.000 Right there!
00:43:42.000 Stop that front!
00:43:43.000 I see a shitty suit! 0.99
00:43:44.000 No, go back! 1.00
00:43:45.000 Yeah, but what animal has hairy tits? 1.00
00:43:48.000 Do you know even gorillas? 0.99
00:43:49.000 Even gorillas, their breasts are unexposed? 1.00
00:43:51.000 Yeah, it's fucking, it's shitty. 1.00
00:43:53.000 It's all folded over. 1.00
00:43:54.000 It's got shoulder pads on.
00:43:55.000 I mean, it looks like we're...
00:43:57.000 Let me watch it again.
00:43:57.000 Bob, you know shoulder pads go down like this, right?
00:44:00.000 They go down like this.
00:44:01.000 Joe, you might find this hard relief.
00:44:02.000 That likes shoulder pads.
00:44:03.000 I know nothing about the sports.
00:44:04.000 I probably know as little about football as you do.
00:44:07.000 I don't even know the rules.
00:44:08.000 Going to the...
00:44:09.000 All right, here we go.
00:44:10.000 But here's my point.
00:44:12.000 Why would you give it breasts? 1.00
00:44:15.000 Because it's a shitty suit. 1.00
00:44:18.000 Look at the bottom of his feet. 1.00
00:44:19.000 It's so obviously shoes. 1.00
00:44:21.000 Look at his fake ass. 1.00
00:44:22.000 The whole thing is stupid. 1.00
00:44:24.000 You're just sitting here looking at this footage going... 1.00
00:44:27.000 Now let's stabilize.
00:44:28.000 Yeah, alright, see?
00:44:29.000 Now you're about to eat some crow.
00:44:30.000 Oh boy.
00:44:30.000 You know, let me tell you something.
00:44:31.000 One time I got so high.
00:44:33.000 I was watching this documentary.
00:44:34.000 I was watching this footage. 1.00
00:44:35.000 I was like, what if I'm an asshole and that really is Bigfoot? 0.99
00:44:39.000 What do you mean? 1.00
00:44:40.000 Like you hurt Bigfoot's feelings?
00:44:42.000 No, like I've just been mocking this for so long.
00:44:44.000 Why do you hate the Paris and Gimlin footage?
00:44:46.000 Because first of all, look at how little its legs are. 1.00
00:44:49.000 Little skinny ass fucking stupid legs. 1.00
00:44:51.000 That is not carrying an enormous animal around the woods forever and ever like that. 1.00
00:44:56.000 The weird part about this is how angry you are.
00:44:58.000 Because I hate hoaxes.
00:45:00.000 Anatomically. 0.83
00:45:01.000 First of all, let's talk about Roger Patterson, the guy who wrote this, is a con man.
00:45:06.000 A known con man.
00:45:07.000 The guy who shot it.
00:45:08.000 Went to jail for writing a bad check to pay for the very camera they used to film Bigfoot.
00:45:13.000 I mean, he was a known con man.
00:45:15.000 Bob Hieronymus.
00:45:16.000 Get the video of Bob Hieronymus walking right next to...
00:45:19.000 In the Bob Hieronymus footage, you never see his feet.
00:45:24.000 So...
00:45:24.000 What do you mean?
00:45:25.000 Watch.
00:45:25.000 His feet are cropped out, so it doesn't give you the same height as Patty.
00:45:30.000 But it doesn't have to.
00:45:31.000 That thing isn't big.
00:45:33.000 People have estimated that thing to be about six foot three.
00:45:36.000 It's not that big.
00:45:38.000 That's a person.
00:45:39.000 Alright.
00:45:40.000 You really think it's real?
00:45:41.000 Yeah, I think it's real. 1.00
00:45:41.000 Oh, you're so crazy. 1.00
00:45:42.000 Look at this. 1.00
00:45:43.000 Look how he's walking.
00:45:43.000 Look how he's walking.
00:45:45.000 First of all, he's walking.
00:45:46.000 He doesn't have legs.
00:45:48.000 He's walking.
00:45:49.000 I don't know, because it's the same height as him.
00:45:51.000 I don't know.
00:45:51.000 I don't know why they did that.
00:45:52.000 I want answers.
00:45:54.000 Maybe make another one.
00:45:55.000 He's the Holy Spirit.
00:45:57.000 But come on, look at that.
00:45:58.000 That is hilarious.
00:45:59.000 That's the guy.
00:46:00.000 I mean, that literally is him.
00:46:02.000 Put some shoulder pads on that guy. 0.99
00:46:04.000 Look how he's swinging his arms.
00:46:05.000 Could you put yakety-sacks under this? 1.00
00:46:07.000 That guy's a big, goofy, Northern California, Oregon-type character.
00:46:12.000 Put yakety-sacks under that. 1.00
00:46:13.000 That shit ain't real. 0.99
00:46:15.000 But you think it's real? 1.00
00:46:16.000 Yeah.
00:46:16.000 So you think it's a real Bigfoot?
00:46:18.000 Yeah.
00:46:19.000 Do you think Bigfoot's real like right now?
00:46:21.000 It's still alive?
00:46:22.000 Uh, yeah.
00:46:23.000 Really?
00:46:24.000 Yeah.
00:46:24.000 For real?
00:46:25.000 Yeah.
00:46:25.000 What makes you think this?
00:46:28.000 Well, I... Oh, can I prove it?
00:46:31.000 No.
00:46:32.000 No, I'm not saying you can prove it.
00:46:33.000 What do I believe?
00:46:33.000 I think it's the amount of people that I've talked to that I'm looking at, and there's no reason for them to be lying.
00:46:41.000 And it's basically the stories I hear over and over with a sincerity.
00:46:46.000 I don't get...
00:46:47.000 If it's not, I don't understand what the...
00:46:54.000 The, you know, what is this mass thing that I'm a part of?
00:46:58.000 You know, I've had guys after the movie, like, you know, I have like people that come up to me and they're almost like, I mean, maybe they're trying to get a connection with me, but I also feel like they're relieved to tell someone this.
00:47:12.000 Now, did they see Bigfoot?
00:47:13.000 No, maybe it's their imagination and stuff.
00:47:16.000 Maybe a lot of these stories, but just the amount of the stories is fascinating to me.
00:47:21.000 It is.
00:47:21.000 Well, one of the things they've realized fairly recently is that black bears in particular tend to walk on their hind legs a lot.
00:47:28.000 A lot more than anybody ever thought.
00:47:30.000 Not only that...
00:47:31.000 And they'll knock a tree down towards you.
00:47:34.000 Yeah.
00:47:34.000 And they can walk on their hind legs for great distances.
00:47:39.000 And they're incredibly strong.
00:47:40.000 And especially the big ones.
00:47:42.000 Like, a friend of mine shot one the other day on a hunt in Alaska that was seven foot...
00:47:49.000 Almost eight foot long. 0.99
00:47:51.000 I'm going to show you a picture of him holding this fucking thing up. 0.99
00:47:54.000 And you think about this animal standing up on its hind legs and what it would look like if that thing was walking towards you. 0.99
00:48:05.000 Now, my friend John is six foot five, I think.
00:48:10.000 Now, that's clearly someone in a suit.
00:48:12.000 No, no, no, no, no.
00:48:13.000 That's a bear, bro.
00:48:13.000 No, that's a guy in a suit.
00:48:15.000 No. 1.00
00:48:17.000 You're being silly. 0.99
00:48:18.000 Look how big that thing is. 0.99
00:48:19.000 Oh no, I agree.
00:48:21.000 I totally...
00:48:21.000 But you see how enormous that is?
00:48:23.000 No, and I agree that the majority of people who see Bigfoot are seeing black bears.
00:48:29.000 So an eight foot long black bear like that one.
00:48:31.000 That does stand up.
00:48:32.000 That just walks around.
00:48:33.000 And does a lot of the behavior that people attribute to Bigfoot.
00:48:36.000 Yeah.
00:48:36.000 I think that's what they're seeing.
00:48:37.000 And also, I think you're also dealing with woods.
00:48:40.000 The Pacific Northwest, where the sightings are primarily occurring, is insanely dense.
00:48:45.000 The way I describe it, when we went up to Mount Rainier, it's like Q-tips.
00:48:49.000 You know, like a box of Q-tips?
00:48:51.000 It's insane.
00:48:51.000 That's what the trees look like.
00:48:52.000 You can't see 20, 30 yards in.
00:48:54.000 It's gone.
00:48:55.000 No, you can't see anything.
00:48:57.000 And also, the canopy keeps light from coming in.
00:49:00.000 So if you saw, first of all, the fear that would go through your mind, if you saw a seven-foot black bear walking on its hind legs through the woods, and you saw it in between trees, your mind would fill in the blanks.
00:49:11.000 And Bigfoot has become this archetypal cultural icon.
00:49:17.000 That is something that I, not only Bigfoot, but almost all archetypal characters.
00:49:23.000 UFOs.
00:49:24.000 And the devil and all these things.
00:49:27.000 I am fascinated as someone who does write screenplays and times.
00:49:32.000 In the stories, I always wonder, well, what in the subconscious are they supplying?
00:49:37.000 Is it just something from our ancestors that, you know what I mean?
00:49:43.000 Or does it supply, this is how you told your kids not to go in the woods?
00:49:48.000 I am fascinated by what these different archetypal characters are and why they're created if they are created and things like that.
00:49:57.000 I think there was an animal at one time.
00:50:00.000 It's not that I think there was an animal at one time.
00:50:02.000 Everyone knows.
00:50:03.000 It's 100% fact.
00:50:04.000 There was an animal called Gigantopithecus.
00:50:06.000 We all know this, right?
00:50:07.000 Do you think that's ingrained in us?
00:50:09.000 Our fear of that?
00:50:10.000 I think that thing lived alongside people.
00:50:13.000 For a long time, and I think when you talk about Native American folklore, when they talk about Bigfoot, apparently they have many, many words for Sasquatch.
00:50:26.000 And I think that what they're probably doing is passing on thousands of years of data.
00:50:32.000 We don't know when the last time Gigantopithecus was alive, because they didn't know Gigantopithecus was even an animal.
00:50:39.000 Until the 1920s, I believe it was, they went to an apothecary shop in China and an anthropologist found a tooth that he couldn't attribute to any other known primate.
00:50:50.000 He asked the people where they got it from.
00:50:51.000 They told them where they got it from.
00:50:52.000 They went to the actual area where they got these bones and they found jaw bones that would indicate the animal was bipedal.
00:50:59.000 And that's where things got really interesting because you're dealing with some bipedal, enormous animal that was most likely At least 8 feet tall.
00:51:08.000 Right.
00:51:08.000 So a huge 8 foot tall primate.
00:51:11.000 I mean, we know the gorillas are huge, and we know that, you know, there's the Bondo ape, which is this enormous chimpanzee that has just recently been confirmed to live in the Congo.
00:51:20.000 They have a chimpanzee in the Congo that's like 6 feet tall, 400 pounds.
00:51:24.000 It's an enormous chimp.
00:51:26.000 So there are, like, variables.
00:51:28.000 There's different kinds of primates.
00:51:30.000 They know about the Hobbit Man and Flores that lived as recently as, I want to say, 14,000 years ago.
00:51:36.000 Right.
00:51:36.000 That thing that lived on the Isle of Flores?
00:51:38.000 That's fascinating.
00:51:39.000 Little tiny people that they think also cannibalized humans.
00:51:43.000 And they think that human beings might have driven them to extinction.
00:51:46.000 They used tools.
00:51:47.000 They were like an enemy little tiny person thing that killed people, perhaps.
00:51:53.000 So I think a lot of our thoughts about leprechauns and fairies and elves...
00:51:57.000 It sounds like a really good movie.
00:51:58.000 It does.
00:51:59.000 It does.
00:52:00.000 Well, there's also people that believe that animal still exists.
00:52:02.000 Or that small creature.
00:52:05.000 The Orang Pendek is one. 1.00
00:52:08.000 I think it's in Vietnam.
00:52:09.000 They believe that this animal still exists.
00:52:12.000 And people still have sightings of this.
00:52:14.000 And I think that that little guy is probably more likely still alive than Gigantopithecus.
00:52:23.000 Well, I... I think it's...
00:52:29.000 For me, it's...
00:52:31.000 I'm not copping out.
00:52:33.000 I mean, I do believe, but I also love the whole idea of it.
00:52:39.000 I do, too.
00:52:40.000 I love it.
00:52:41.000 And you've been in the woods, and you know you can't see three feet in front of you.
00:52:45.000 I love it when I'm out with folks, and they'll hear an owl that sounds like an ape screaming.
00:52:53.000 And they'll go, nah, that's just...
00:52:55.000 And they know, but then I hear something else and they go, I go, hey man, that sounds like a coyote.
00:53:01.000 He's like, well, you know, juvie squatch sometime impersonate other animals.
00:53:06.000 Juvenile squatch.
00:53:07.000 Juvie squatch.
00:53:08.000 Juvie squatch.
00:53:10.000 They're the Frank Caliandro of the Sasquatch.
00:53:14.000 There was a bit from my last special that I did that was a real conversation that I had with one of these Bigfoot hunters.
00:53:19.000 And he goes, one time I was walking in the woods and I heard this bullfrog that was near a blackberry bush.
00:53:25.000 And I was thinking to myself, why is a bullfrog near a blackberry bush?
00:53:30.000 And then I got home and I realized that was a Squatch. 1.00
00:53:34.000 And he was dead serious. 1.00
00:53:37.000 Maybe it was just a fucking frog, dude! 1.00
00:53:39.000 I mean, maybe it was just a frog. 1.00
00:53:40.000 In his mind, it had to be a Sasquatch.
00:53:43.000 Like, that kind of illogical...
00:53:45.000 I'm impressed that you got to that part of the story that quick.
00:53:50.000 Because when you ask...
00:53:51.000 Oh, it took a long time.
00:53:52.000 Yeah, it's always...
00:53:53.000 I just condensed it.
00:53:54.000 You go...
00:53:56.000 Have you had any encounters and it goes, I'm 5'6".
00:54:00.000 And I'm like, no.
00:54:01.000 The date was 1972. Oh, that I would like.
00:54:04.000 I had a brand new pair of shoes and I had just broken one lace and tied the other lace up.
00:54:09.000 And I was thinking to myself, I'm so upset with the way they're making these laces these days.
00:54:12.000 They've shipped off their laces to China.
00:54:14.000 That's neither here nor there.
00:54:15.000 Anyway, I'm on a long backpacking trip.
00:54:17.000 Did you ever watch The Bionic Man?
00:54:19.000 Oh, with Bigfoot?
00:54:21.000 No, Bigfoot was on that.
00:54:22.000 It's just like, it's never point A to B. They're socially retarded. 1.00
00:54:27.000 They're adorable.
00:54:28.000 They're adorable in a lot of ways. 0.95
00:54:30.000 Look, the guys that took me in and Duncan, the guys we hung out with from the, what is it, the Sasquatch Research Foundation, I don't know what the fucking name their organization is. 0.94
00:54:39.000 BFRO? Yes, that's it. 0.95
00:54:40.000 They're nice guys.
00:54:41.000 They're nice guys.
00:54:42.000 Yeah.
00:54:43.000 And I also love it because, to me, it's a microcosm of faith.
00:54:50.000 There's the people that see it and believe, there's people that have never seen it, and then just like any other belief in a deity, everybody's got their own version, and everybody thinks their version's right, and I love that, that there's all this infighting.
00:55:07.000 While I was there, I would start asking people about Well, what do you think about Dog Man?
00:55:12.000 And people are like, ugh. 1.00
00:55:15.000 Dog Man's for idiots. 1.00
00:55:18.000 This guy's crazy. 1.00
00:55:19.000 Hey, why don't you go back to Holly Weird with that Dog Man? 0.97
00:55:26.000 That's so funny, man.
00:55:28.000 I can't think of a more fun weekend.
00:55:32.000 They think that he can sense where cameras are.
00:55:35.000 Well, different folks, yeah.
00:55:36.000 And those are the same folks that believe he's traveling in portals.
00:55:40.000 Oh, that is hard, too.
00:55:41.000 Yeah.
00:55:41.000 Travels through wormholes.
00:55:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:55:44.000 Sasquatch is an interdimensional creature.
00:55:48.000 I've met many people that can sense when a camera's on.
00:55:52.000 But here's the thing that I ask you.
00:55:55.000 What evidence at all, if any, compels you to think it's even possible that this animal exists?
00:56:03.000 Besides that footprint that I have over there.
00:56:05.000 Do you see one of those?
00:56:06.000 Yeah.
00:56:06.000 I got one of those.
00:56:07.000 That's a real cast. 0.99
00:56:08.000 That's from one of the fucking encounters. 0.99
00:56:10.000 I think that looks like... 0.99
00:56:12.000 I hate to bum you out.
00:56:14.000 I think that looks like from the Patterson-Gimlin track wave.
00:56:17.000 You think so?
00:56:18.000 Yeah, I do.
00:56:19.000 I don't know.
00:56:20.000 Yeah.
00:56:21.000 I think this is given to me by Bobo from Finding Bigfoot.
00:56:26.000 Sure.
00:56:27.000 Look at that.
00:56:30.000 How you and Bobo get along?
00:56:31.000 Oh, great! 1.00
00:56:32.000 He was upset when I was ragging on that fucking video. 1.00
00:56:35.000 Oh, the footage, yeah. 1.00
00:56:35.000 Bobo, when he found out I was doing a movie, the first thing he said was, I'm going to fucking kick Bobcat's ass. 1.00
00:56:45.000 He said that? 1.00
00:56:46.000 Yes!
00:56:46.000 Because he thought I was going to make fun of him.
00:56:49.000 Imagine that. 1.00
00:56:50.000 You make fun of Bigfoot and he wants to kick your ass. 1.00
00:56:52.000 I didn't though. 1.00
00:56:53.000 My movie is very reverential.
00:56:57.000 It's a good movie.
00:56:58.000 Thanks, man.
00:56:59.000 I really enjoyed that movie.
00:57:01.000 It's more of a suspense film, too.
00:57:02.000 It's a fun movie.
00:57:03.000 Thanks, man.
00:57:04.000 It's really good.
00:57:05.000 It was shocking because I didn't know what to expect.
00:57:07.000 Yeah.
00:57:08.000 I remember we barely talked about it.
00:57:09.000 Yeah.
00:57:09.000 He just told me it's a Bigfoot movie.
00:57:11.000 I'm like, alright. 1.00
00:57:11.000 And I watched this movie, I'm like, holy shit! 1.00
00:57:13.000 What the fuck is going on? 0.99
00:57:14.000 Yeah, the scene in the tents is, I'm pretty happy with that. 0.99
00:57:18.000 And you know, when we shot that scene, it was 3am, 2.33am, and I shot it at Laos Camp, between Laos Camp and Bluff Creek.
00:57:26.000 So I shot it where the footage was filmed.
00:57:29.000 Whoa.
00:57:29.000 And we'd seen a mountain lion.
00:57:31.000 I can talk to a guy who's seen a mountain lion. 0.99
00:57:33.000 Yeah, that's fucked up, right? 0.98
00:57:34.000 Yeah, it's interesting. 0.98
00:57:35.000 Have you seen one?
00:57:36.000 Oh yeah, I've seen two.
00:57:37.000 Yeah.
00:57:37.000 I saw one run across the road and that was weird and then we saw one in the woods.
00:57:42.000 And man, it's...
00:57:44.000 It's crazy.
00:57:45.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:57:46.000 And it would have killed us, but it didn't want to because we were...
00:57:49.000 Too many of you.
00:57:50.000 We were just really close.
00:57:51.000 It just got up and just like walked away like a house cat.
00:57:54.000 Well, they don't worry about people because they haven't been hunted in California since the 90s.
00:57:59.000 So all these animals that you're experiencing, they don't view people as nearly as much of a threat as they used to.
00:58:05.000 But if you're like in Arizona or places that have a hunting season... 0.99
00:58:09.000 You're not going to see any fucking mountain lions. 0.99
00:58:10.000 They see people. 1.00
00:58:11.000 They get the fuck out of there. 0.99
00:58:12.000 Because they understand the threat and they get used to the threat and then they escape and they run away. 0.99
00:58:18.000 Here's a perfect example.
00:58:20.000 Yellowstone.
00:58:21.000 People haven't hunted in Yellowstone in over 100 years.
00:58:24.000 So when you go to Yellowstone, you could pull your car up to a herd of elk.
00:58:28.000 I mean, they're right there hanging out.
00:58:30.000 You can get out of your car and you can see them. 0.98
00:58:33.000 When you're in Colorado and you're in the mountains and you're hunting and you see an elk, they bark and they fucking bolt. 0.95
00:58:39.000 They see you, they go like this. 0.86
00:58:42.000 They let all the other elk know there's a person.
00:58:44.000 They recognize the threat and they take off.
00:58:47.000 Wow.
00:58:48.000 So because we don't hunt in California, we don't hunt mountain lions.
00:58:51.000 That's also why you never see any deer.
00:58:53.000 That was really terrifying.
00:58:55.000 And we filmed the scene.
00:58:58.000 Did you just film the mountain lions?
00:58:59.000 No, but we filmed there.
00:59:01.000 Because I go, well, let's just go to the left.
00:59:04.000 And Bryce Johnson's in the film.
00:59:06.000 He's going, why don't we just get in the car?
00:59:09.000 So he was scared of the mountain?
00:59:11.000 Well, yeah.
00:59:12.000 How big was it?
00:59:13.000 It was really big.
00:59:14.000 That's the thing I didn't realize.
00:59:15.000 It's a lion.
00:59:16.000 Oh, yeah.
00:59:17.000 You know, it's big.
00:59:19.000 And then we're filming the scene, you know, the long scene in the tent.
00:59:23.000 And the first take, it's 19 minutes long, the one that's in the movie.
00:59:26.000 The first take, he started crying while we were filming.
00:59:30.000 Why?
00:59:30.000 Because he's scared of the mountain line?
00:59:31.000 It was just, yeah, it was the whole thing.
00:59:33.000 And you know, and then, you know, that nature, that scene is scary.
00:59:37.000 And I go, that was a really good take.
00:59:39.000 I just don't think your character would cry.
00:59:42.000 And he's like, my character's not crying.
00:59:44.000 I'm crying.
00:59:44.000 Why are we here?
00:59:45.000 We could shoot this in a hotel parking lot. 1.00
00:59:47.000 No one knows where the fuck we're at. 1.00
00:59:49.000 I go, that's really good. 0.98
00:59:50.000 Use that intensity in the scene.
00:59:52.000 Just don't cry.
00:59:53.000 We're going again.
01:00:00.000 Krimen said the same thing with me.
01:00:02.000 He laughed really hard.
01:00:04.000 I think I live a fairly honest life, but when I'm in production mode, it's just, I'm gonna get it done.
01:00:10.000 Well, you have to.
01:00:12.000 Truly, though.
01:00:13.000 Well, you're under so many constraints.
01:00:15.000 And when we were filming Call Me Lucky, the doc on Barry, We were out on the lake and the ice started cracking.
01:00:25.000 And one of the guys was from Ice Truckers.
01:00:27.000 So he knew the noise.
01:00:28.000 He goes, hey, we gotta get off the ice.
01:00:30.000 Because it was like, boom, boom.
01:00:32.000 Sounded like someone tuning a drum kit.
01:00:34.000 Oh, that's terrifying.
01:00:35.000 It was like, boom.
01:00:36.000 No, I'm never scared.
01:00:37.000 And I go, what do we do?
01:00:38.000 He goes, everybody walk off the ice.
01:00:41.000 One at a time.
01:00:42.000 15 feet, 20 feet between each other.
01:00:45.000 Like we made a line, but we were far away from each other. 0.99
01:00:48.000 Stay away from fat guys.
01:00:49.000 And then it actually did like a split and then like snow blew up, you know, through this cravice. 0.85
01:00:55.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
01:00:57.000 So we get off the ice.
01:01:00.000 And there's this jetty, and I go, okay guys, I go, let's just climb over the fence, because it says, you know, do not enter, close chain.
01:01:09.000 And I go, let's just come over here, and we just go down the end of the jetty, and the sound guy has never worked with me before.
01:01:13.000 He goes, but the sign, it says, do not enter.
01:01:16.000 I go, yeah, the guy said if he wasn't here, just jump the fence.
01:01:19.000 This kid just jumps the fence.
01:01:21.000 And Crimmins goes, have you been lying to me this whole time?
01:01:26.000 You lie so fast.
01:01:31.000 Gotta get the job done.
01:01:32.000 Is this Windy City Heat 2?
01:01:35.000 That's what Grimmins called it.
01:01:37.000 Oh, that's so funny. 0.99
01:01:39.000 Oh, that's so ridiculous. 0.84
01:01:41.000 We should plug this.
01:01:42.000 I found out Barry's doing a special at Lawrence, Kansas on June 4th.
01:01:52.000 Louis C.K. is producing a special for Barry.
01:01:56.000 There you go.
01:01:56.000 Oh, that's so great.
01:01:58.000 So folks at the Lawrence Art Center, go out and check out.
01:02:01.000 They're doing two shows.
01:02:02.000 Ten bucks ticket.
01:02:03.000 Oh, beautiful.
01:02:04.000 So go out and see Barry.
01:02:05.000 What is he filming it for?
01:02:07.000 I'm not sure.
01:02:07.000 Maybe it's for Louie, you know, how he puts stuff out.
01:02:11.000 I don't know.
01:02:12.000 I mean, it could, you know, I don't know.
01:02:14.000 I should ask Barry where it's going to be.
01:02:15.000 What I read online is that it's going to be released on louieck.com.
01:02:18.000 Beautiful.
01:02:18.000 I'm not 100% sure of it.
01:02:19.000 Beautiful.
01:02:20.000 Yeah.
01:02:21.000 Barry's so awesome.
01:02:22.000 I love that guy.
01:02:23.000 Yeah, he is.
01:02:23.000 And I'm working on a lot of things.
01:02:26.000 I really am, actually, right now.
01:02:27.000 I'm working on a couple different things I'm not going to discuss, but one of the things I can discuss is I'm doing a short doc on the Washington Generals, the team that played the Globetrotters.
01:02:43.000 I don't know about that.
01:02:44.000 Oh, they're the team that lost three and a half thousand times, roughly, because they played the Globetrotters.
01:02:50.000 Oh, constantly, in the fake games, right?
01:02:52.000 Well, again...
01:02:53.000 It's like pro wrestling, right?
01:02:55.000 Isn't it?
01:02:55.000 Well, here's what I'm learning is really fun.
01:02:58.000 Like, officially, they were never told to take a dive.
01:03:01.000 But they knew it. 0.97
01:03:02.000 Yeah, and then they fucked up once in 71, and they beat the Globetrotters. 0.95
01:03:06.000 Oh my god, what happened? 0.96
01:03:07.000 And that's what I'm doing.
01:03:10.000 We're good to go.
01:03:24.000 When I was a kid, I could never understand.
01:03:27.000 When other people would win the NBA Finals, I'd be like, wait a minute, did they beat the Globetrotters?
01:03:33.000 Where were the Globetrotters?
01:03:34.000 I don't understand.
01:03:35.000 The Globetrotters are the best.
01:03:36.000 I've seen them.
01:03:36.000 They spin the ball on their fingers.
01:03:38.000 They do crazy stuff.
01:03:40.000 Is this the actual game?
01:03:41.000 No, no.
01:03:43.000 But yeah, man, the Globetrotters.
01:03:45.000 What a weird idea to like incorporate theatrics and sort of like almost like a pro wrestling type thing with...
01:03:52.000 Do they still do it?
01:03:52.000 Yeah.
01:03:53.000 They do.
01:03:54.000 Well, there's the Simpsons with Krusty the Clown where he lost all his money betting on the generals.
01:04:00.000 He goes, I thought they were due.
01:04:01.000 I thought they were due.
01:04:03.000 I just guess it is.
01:04:04.000 He's going, ref, look!
01:04:05.000 He's pulling his pants down.
01:04:08.000 He's just spinning the ball.
01:04:09.000 Grab it.
01:04:11.000 Grab the ball.
01:04:16.000 I did the Simpsons ride the other day, Universal.
01:04:19.000 I took my kids to Universal. 0.97
01:04:20.000 The Simpsons ride is fucking amazing. 0.98
01:04:24.000 Yeah, I loved it. 0.98
01:04:26.000 It's one of the best rides ever.
01:04:26.000 And there's so many jokes crammed into that thing, too.
01:04:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:04:30.000 It's really funny.
01:04:31.000 Everything, even when you're waiting to get on the ride, the screen they play you.
01:04:34.000 It's really well done.
01:04:35.000 Seriously, one of the best rides of all time.
01:04:37.000 Yeah, and a lot of laughs.
01:04:38.000 Oh, did you catch this?
01:04:39.000 It replaced the Back to the Future ride.
01:04:43.000 It did?
01:04:43.000 Yeah, and then they do a thing where there's a shady dealing between Krusty and Doc Brown.
01:04:52.000 Even that was really well done.
01:04:54.000 It's the same building, and they just retooled the ride, basically.
01:04:59.000 Oh, that's interesting.
01:05:00.000 It's so much better.
01:05:01.000 Yeah, it's great.
01:05:02.000 It's really one of the best rides ever.
01:05:04.000 How old was your kid?
01:05:05.000 Well, I went with my one, my seven, who just turned eight, and I have a five who's about to turn six.
01:05:12.000 So you went with the eight-year-old.
01:05:13.000 Did you go to Harry Potter?
01:05:13.000 I went with all of them.
01:05:14.000 Well, the eight-year-old went to Harry Potter.
01:05:16.000 The five-year-old couldn't get to Harry Potter.
01:05:18.000 She's like an inch shy.
01:05:20.000 So next time I'm going to stuff her shoes and I'm going to get her to wear heels. 1.00
01:05:24.000 Yeah, she was a little bummed.
01:05:25.000 Yeah, that's hard.
01:05:26.000 But the eight-year-old reads Harry Potter every day.
01:05:29.000 She's read three of the books.
01:05:30.000 She reads chapters and chapters every day.
01:05:32.000 She's obsessed.
01:05:33.000 She can't stop talking about Harry Potter.
01:05:34.000 Did you get her a wand?
01:05:35.000 Oh yeah, the whole deal.
01:05:37.000 We went through a whole rigmarole.
01:05:38.000 But the Harry Potter ride at Universal is probably the greatest ride in the history of rides. 0.97
01:05:43.000 It's fucking amazing. 0.84
01:05:45.000 And I don't even like Harry Potter. 0.98
01:05:46.000 Did you bring up Voldemort to any of the employees?
01:05:50.000 Why?
01:05:50.000 What happens when you do?
01:05:51.000 Because you're not supposed to mention his name.
01:05:53.000 What happens if you mention him?
01:05:54.000 Well, their commitment is really impressive.
01:05:56.000 They go, please do not say that.
01:05:58.000 What's his name?
01:05:59.000 What is it?
01:05:59.000 He who has not.
01:06:01.000 Go on.
01:06:01.000 He who has not.
01:06:03.000 Who cannot be named.
01:06:04.000 He who cannot be named.
01:06:06.000 Please do not bring up he who cannot be named.
01:06:07.000 It's like that old Garofalo bit.
01:06:09.000 I admire your commitment, but I know you came here from Encino.
01:06:16.000 Right.
01:06:19.000 I just want to see if he's got a want.
01:06:21.000 Well, and also they serve this stuff called butterbeer that I guess was a big part of the book.
01:06:26.000 Oh, yeah.
01:06:27.000 And it's this unbelievably sugary, syrupy drink with foam on the top of it. 0.64
01:06:34.000 Oh, it's disgusting.
01:06:36.000 And just everybody's drinking it.
01:06:38.000 Everywhere you go, they're all Harry Potter now.
01:06:40.000 It's really well done.
01:06:41.000 Oh, amazingly well done.
01:06:42.000 It's great.
01:06:43.000 It costs more than a billion dollars.
01:06:45.000 Wow.
01:06:45.000 $1.8 billion for Harry Potter World.
01:06:49.000 Wow.
01:06:49.000 Yeah.
01:06:50.000 Wow. 1.00
01:06:50.000 What in the fuck? 1.00
01:06:51.000 So that's... 1.00
01:06:52.000 They're making new rides?
01:06:54.000 They're making a Star Wars world there.
01:06:55.000 Oh, yeah.
01:06:56.000 No, that's Disneyland.
01:06:57.000 That's even more...
01:06:58.000 Disneyland Star Wars world.
01:06:59.000 They're working on that right now.
01:07:00.000 That real estate's even more pricey than Aaron Spelling's old house.
01:07:02.000 Disney bought Star Wars.
01:07:04.000 And so Universal is Harry Potter.
01:07:07.000 Well, I guess they were doing another world, too.
01:07:08.000 I'll have to look up which one it is, but they're doing two or three giant world spaces like Harry Potter. 0.99
01:07:13.000 They got some lame fucking rods. 1.00
01:07:14.000 Jurassic Park's lame as fuck. 1.00
01:07:17.000 The Transformers is lame as fuck. 1.00
01:07:20.000 They're too dated. 0.99
01:07:21.000 I didn't do either of those.
01:07:22.000 Those are lame.
01:07:23.000 Don't bother.
01:07:24.000 Did you go through the King Kong?
01:07:26.000 You didn't do that.
01:07:27.000 See, that's pretty good.
01:07:28.000 The tram?
01:07:28.000 Yeah, because the tram goes in and it's 360. Oh, I did that a long time ago.
01:07:36.000 This is a long time ago, right?
01:07:37.000 Isn't it like 10 or 20 years old or something like that?
01:07:39.000 Yeah, the Backlot Tour.
01:07:40.000 I did that back in the day.
01:07:42.000 I did that.
01:07:42.000 But I'm super impressed with The Simpsons.
01:07:45.000 No, not with the King Kong that was like an animatronic one that had banana breath.
01:07:49.000 No, no, this is Peter Jackson 3D, and you're in a 360-degree screen.
01:07:56.000 Oh, no.
01:07:57.000 Yeah, it's nuts.
01:07:57.000 That's on Universal, too?
01:07:58.000 Yeah, it's nuts.
01:07:59.000 Really?
01:08:00.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:08:01.000 That's really good.
01:08:02.000 No, not the...
01:08:04.000 I remember that one.
01:08:05.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:08:06.000 And it had banana bread.
01:08:07.000 It did it?
01:08:07.000 Oh, that's right.
01:08:08.000 That's right.
01:08:08.000 It blows banana smell on you.
01:08:10.000 You blow banana smell.
01:08:15.000 It's come full circle.
01:08:16.000 Let me get back to this Bigfoot thing.
01:08:18.000 The Bigfoot conference. 0.99
01:08:19.000 What makes you think that any of this, like this stupid fake footprint that's in front of us here, what makes you think? 0.99
01:08:26.000 I'll tell you, you know, it's hard to do this. 0.99
01:08:29.000 I'm not saying it's impossible.
01:08:31.000 Do you see that American Werewolf in London that I have out there?
01:08:33.000 Yeah.
01:08:34.000 If they could do that, what would make you think they couldn't do this?
01:08:39.000 Thermal ridges.
01:08:40.000 No, I'll tell you what's hard.
01:08:42.000 I'm not saying it's not impossible, because there was people being pulled behind a truck with a rope, so the spacing of the feet, and then you've got enough force, because you do have to put a lot of pressure in to make this.
01:08:56.000 But here's the weird part, and this isn't proof, but what I was really surprised with, because we made footprints in Willow Creek and did it the way you would think, you know, carved wood, put them on your feet.
01:09:11.000 Really hard to take that That second stride.
01:09:15.000 It's really strange.
01:09:16.000 It's like anti-snowshoes. 0.79
01:09:19.000 Right.
01:09:19.000 To the point where I got stuck.
01:09:21.000 Maybe it's because I'm a fat ass, but we had to get like a stick to get me... 0.98
01:09:25.000 I'm not saying it's not impossible, but it was really way more difficult than I could imagine. 0.98
01:09:32.000 So, fairly difficult, but still, the best piece of evidence is just impressions and dirt.
01:09:38.000 Just tracks.
01:09:39.000 There's never been a body.
01:09:40.000 There's never been a trail cam photograph of them.
01:09:43.000 I mean, hunters set up trail cam photos everywhere.
01:09:45.000 Now that people have phones with cameras on them, there's people hiking and hunting and everyone has cameras.
01:09:52.000 But there's folks who have footage.
01:09:54.000 What footage is any good?
01:09:55.000 Wow.
01:09:56.000 Other than that fake footage that we watched earlier today, what footage is any good?
01:10:01.000 A lot of people don't know that Roger Patterson also was Abraham Zapruder.
01:10:06.000 Because it's the same camera work.
01:10:08.000 He had one thing he did really well.
01:10:11.000 That jiggly camera.
01:10:13.000 Yeah.
01:10:14.000 Well, when they leveled it out, it's not compelling at all to me.
01:10:20.000 I really think it's fake.
01:10:21.000 Yeah.
01:10:22.000 But I wish it wasn't.
01:10:23.000 We're going to agree to disagree.
01:10:25.000 But I wish it wasn't.
01:10:27.000 I really do.
01:10:27.000 Like, I want it to be real.
01:10:29.000 It's one of my all-time favorite myths.
01:10:32.000 So you would be thrilled if...
01:10:34.000 So thrilled.
01:10:36.000 I'd be so happy.
01:10:37.000 I'd probably sleep for days.
01:10:38.000 What would you do about...
01:10:39.000 Well, that's the thing that's weird, too.
01:10:42.000 I wonder what people are seeing if they're not seeing Bigfoot.
01:10:46.000 Bears.
01:10:47.000 I think they're seeing bears.
01:10:48.000 Yeah.
01:10:48.000 I think they're seeing bipedal bears.
01:10:50.000 Or bullshit. 1.00
01:10:52.000 Or they're crazy. 1.00
01:10:53.000 Or they're making things up.
01:10:54.000 I think a lot of these people are lonely.
01:10:56.000 And I think it's an archetypal story.
01:10:58.000 I'm fascinated too, though, about when I went to the Mothman thing.
01:11:03.000 What is it if it isn't this?
01:11:06.000 So why is it the...
01:11:10.000 When you're getting ridiculed for coming forward with a story...
01:11:15.000 Why is there like over a hundred actual reports, police reports and stuff on this phenomenon where people are seeing the mothman?
01:11:22.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:11:23.000 So let's say it's fake.
01:11:24.000 They're bored.
01:11:25.000 They're in Kentucky.
01:11:26.000 They're doing meth.
01:11:27.000 West Virginia. 1.00
01:11:27.000 They're fucking their kids. 1.00
01:11:28.000 Whatever. 1.00
01:11:29.000 They're out of their mind. 0.89
01:11:30.000 These people are out of their mind.
01:11:31.000 This was in 65. Yeah, they were doing it back then.
01:11:33.000 People have been fucking their kids since the 20s. 1.00
01:11:35.000 No, not that. 1.00
01:11:37.000 Since the, what, 20s?
01:11:39.000 Okay.
01:11:42.000 No, what?
01:11:43.000 What?
01:11:46.000 These are the wrong questions.
01:11:48.000 These are the wrong questions.
01:11:50.000 By saying, no, meth's kind of new.
01:11:53.000 It's not.
01:11:55.000 So what's the right question?
01:11:58.000 Well, the right questions are, here's why it's the wrong questions.
01:12:02.000 Because all of this is eyewitness testimony, which is the absolutely worst, most unreliable piece of evidence you can get.
01:12:11.000 I was in Alberta.
01:12:12.000 There's so many guys on death row, et cetera, et cetera, because of eyewitness.
01:12:17.000 When I was in Alberta hunting bear the first time I was up there, I thought I saw a wolf.
01:12:22.000 It was a squirrel. 0.99
01:12:23.000 But for two seconds, I thought it was a fucking wolf. 0.99
01:12:26.000 Because I saw it in the woods. 1.00
01:12:27.000 I saw it moving through this incredibly dense brush, and I went, oh shit, it's a wolf. 0.99
01:12:31.000 It's a squirrel. 1.00
01:12:32.000 What the fuck is wrong with me? 0.99
01:12:34.000 Because I was scared. 0.99
01:12:35.000 Because my senses were heightened.
01:12:37.000 I was looking for a wolf.
01:12:39.000 Because there are wolves up there.
01:12:40.000 I'm glad that that squirrel didn't commit any crime.
01:12:42.000 And your mind starts filling in the blanks.
01:12:45.000 That is not...
01:12:47.000 The wolf that stole my money.
01:12:49.000 That is a squirrel, Your Honor.
01:12:50.000 Your mind fills in blanks.
01:12:53.000 I believe that completely.
01:12:55.000 No, it absolutely does happen.
01:12:56.000 People have put suggestions into people's heads and then put them in certain situations, and then their mind actually sees things that aren't there.
01:13:05.000 Your mind fills in blanks.
01:13:07.000 Also, when you have memories of things, if your memories correspond with other people's memories, you'll adjust your memories to correspond to an iconic or archetypal type of story that people are passing around.
01:13:19.000 And so if you have a story that emanates from one particular region and one guy shows up at the corner store and goes, man, you ain't gonna believe this.
01:13:26.000 I saw a dude with moth wings.
01:13:28.000 It's a man who is a moth. 0.99
01:13:29.000 Like, holy shit, you hear about Bobby? 1.00
01:13:31.000 He saw Mothman. 0.99
01:13:32.000 And then people start getting crazy, and they're sitting around drinking, and the next thing you know, Petey saw the Mothman.
01:13:38.000 I was coming home, I was leaving the bar, I was all mad, and all of a sudden, I saw a man with moth wings, and I stopped thinking about my own troubles, and I said, man, this might be a demonic area. 0.99
01:13:48.000 We got Mothman up in this bitch. 1.00
01:13:49.000 And the next thing you know, another dude sees the Mothman and then it spreads. 0.99
01:13:53.000 And then those stories, they become 10 years old and 20 years old and it goes on and on and on. 1.00
01:13:58.000 People are full of shit. 0.99
01:14:00.000 Well, but the Mothman was a very specific time. 1.00
01:14:03.000 It was for one year.
01:14:04.000 People were seeing all these Mothman.
01:14:07.000 Or one Mothman.
01:14:09.000 Right.
01:14:09.000 And then, same time there's UFOs in this area, and then people are being visited by men in black.
01:14:18.000 Yeah.
01:14:18.000 And then this bridge collapsed.
01:14:21.000 And they believe that the Mothman is some sort of banshee that shows up to warn people that something terrible is about to happen.
01:14:29.000 Seems totally logical.
01:14:31.000 Come on, just fill in the blanks.
01:14:33.000 Oh, there's the Mothman.
01:14:35.000 Oh, he's up there?
01:14:36.000 Oh, look at that.
01:14:38.000 Looks like a gargoyle.
01:14:39.000 That's not...
01:14:40.000 That's the Mothman, bro.
01:14:41.000 No, that's fake.
01:14:42.000 It's a photo.
01:14:43.000 No, you know it's fake.
01:14:44.000 You know it's not fake.
01:14:45.000 I mean, look.
01:14:47.000 I mean, the Jersey Devil.
01:14:49.000 Here's another one.
01:14:49.000 Jersey Devil.
01:14:51.000 Did you ever see the Jersey Devil?
01:14:51.000 I would like to do a show where I go...
01:14:54.000 I take out, like...
01:14:56.000 Like that Jersey Devil remind me.
01:14:58.000 So I want to take out other filmmakers.
01:15:03.000 Like if Jersey Devil, I get Kevin Smith and go in a tent and go look for the Jersey Devil.
01:15:08.000 Don't you think that's a great idea?
01:15:10.000 It might be.
01:15:11.000 Come on.
01:15:11.000 It might be funny.
01:15:12.000 Did you remember?
01:15:13.000 What was that monster show?
01:15:14.000 What was the monster show?
01:15:15.000 Well, there's got all that, but I like the idea that like this is just...
01:15:19.000 Monster quest.
01:15:19.000 Yeah, but this is just, you know, this is just a reason to get guys who shouldn't be out in the woods...
01:15:25.000 Do you know what I mean?
01:15:26.000 Right, right, right.
01:15:27.000 To take Steven Sodenberg out looking for the swamp ape.
01:15:31.000 You know what I mean?
01:15:32.000 Yeah.
01:15:32.000 We're not the most robust gentlemen.
01:15:34.000 Right.
01:15:35.000 We're not the adventurers.
01:15:36.000 There's some humor in that.
01:15:37.000 Oh, please.
01:15:38.000 But if you really do think there is one...
01:15:40.000 And storytellers.
01:15:40.000 Well, that's one of the reasons why Les Stroud becomes interesting.
01:15:43.000 Because Les Stroud has had two experiences.
01:15:46.000 And one of them that he is pretty adamant...
01:15:49.000 Yeah.
01:15:49.000 Couldn't have been a bear, couldn't have been anything else, and he really believes that it was a Sasquatch to the point where he's dedicated weeks and weeks to going out into the woods.
01:15:57.000 Sure. 0.98
01:15:58.000 But hanging out with a known charlatan, the guy he's hanging out with is a total bullshitter. 0.97
01:16:02.000 I'm sure you've seen his show. 0.68
01:16:03.000 Have you seen the Bigfoot show where the guy wears the mask and pretends he's Bigfoot?
01:16:07.000 No.
01:16:08.000 You've never seen the footage?
01:16:09.000 Of what? 1.00
01:16:11.000 The guy that Les Stroud is hanging around with put a fucking mask on and got close-up video footage of him standing there even blinking with this fucking stupid fake mask. 1.00
01:16:23.000 I don't know what kind of mask it is. 1.00
01:16:25.000 It's so fake.
01:16:26.000 It's so fake it hurts my feelings.
01:16:28.000 It hurts my feelings when I watch it.
01:16:30.000 I go, oh my god.
01:16:31.000 You know why?
01:16:31.000 Because I have children.
01:16:32.000 It makes me think this is someone's kid who grew up and he's this fucking stupid that he made this video. 1.00
01:16:38.000 That's it back there. 1.00
01:16:41.000 Look at this.
01:16:42.000 As if this thing's just hanging out.
01:16:45.000 And by the way, this guy who made this, according to the Bigfoot researchers, he's got a history with having problems with reality. 0.93
01:16:52.000 And so, wait till you see the fucking, when they zoom in, it's like, oh, is it there? 0.97
01:16:56.000 Is it there? 0.99
01:16:56.000 I think I see it. 0.99
01:16:57.000 Yeah, I have seen this.
01:16:58.000 He's like pretending he sees it.
01:16:59.000 It's an actual...
01:17:00.000 Oh, it's definitely a squatch.
01:17:02.000 Hold on.
01:17:03.000 Wait till you get close on me.
01:17:04.000 But I feel like this is...
01:17:06.000 100% real.
01:17:08.000 I'm just trying to zoom in.
01:17:09.000 There it is.
01:17:10.000 Oh, my God.
01:17:10.000 He's looking at me.
01:17:11.000 I can't believe it.
01:17:12.000 My blood turned cold.
01:17:13.000 I started getting goosebumps all across my arm, and I was looking at him, and I realized this cannot be a man in a suit.
01:17:19.000 It's too good.
01:17:20.000 Look how bad that is.
01:17:21.000 Come on.
01:17:22.000 Look how furry he is.
01:17:23.000 It's like someone with one of those hats that really rich old ladies wear. 1.00
01:17:27.000 When they're walking down Fifth Avenue.
01:17:29.000 How do you argue with that? 1.00
01:17:31.000 Look how stupid that is. 1.00
01:17:32.000 Look how stupid it is. 1.00
01:17:34.000 Oh my god, look at that one. 1.00
01:17:35.000 Even better.
01:17:35.000 Watch it blink.
01:17:36.000 Wait for it.
01:17:37.000 That's how you know it's real! 1.00
01:17:38.000 It's fucking real, Bobcat. 0.99
01:17:40.000 It blinked. 0.99
01:17:41.000 Look how it's coiffed, too.
01:17:42.000 Look, his hair's combed like Fonzie.
01:17:44.000 But I hear that a lot.
01:17:45.000 Looks like Fabian.
01:17:46.000 That he's got hairspray on.
01:17:48.000 That, um, that very clean.
01:17:51.000 Mm.
01:17:51.000 Come on.
01:17:52.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.98
01:17:54.000 Right? 0.99
01:17:55.000 Look at that.
01:17:56.000 Well that, obviously.
01:17:57.000 Clearly that's real. 1.00
01:17:58.000 Fake as fuck. 1.00
01:17:59.000 No, that's fake. 1.00
01:18:00.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:18:01.000 But Survivorman, Les Stroud, who's a friend of mine, had that fucking, put that shit on the show. 0.99
01:18:06.000 And he had some like, he puts out like a caveat. 0.99
01:18:09.000 But what does he say?
01:18:11.000 He doesn't, so does he say that that's real?
01:18:13.000 It all becomes very problematic when you have money tied into... 0.99
01:18:18.000 You can't talk too much shit because it's on his show. 0.99
01:18:21.000 He makes money off that show. 0.99
01:18:23.000 By the way, that Survivorman Bigfoot, that's massive ratings.
01:18:27.000 It gets bigger ratings than regular Survivorman. 0.99
01:18:29.000 Like where he drops himself off in fucking Africa by himself with a butter knife. 0.99
01:18:34.000 That's impressive. 1.00
01:18:35.000 He's done some real shit. 0.99
01:18:38.000 And that doesn't get nearly the ratings that this hanging out with this fake Bigfoot guy does. 0.99
01:18:44.000 Yeah.
01:18:44.000 Well...
01:18:44.000 It's weird, man.
01:18:46.000 Well, so...
01:18:47.000 No bodies.
01:18:48.000 We're just not...
01:18:48.000 Well, they bury their...
01:18:51.000 Maybe. 0.99
01:18:52.000 See, I talked to this guy, Todd Disotel, who's a biologist, and we did some tests on all these different things that people thought were Bigfoot shit, Bigfoot hair. 0.99
01:19:02.000 It's all bears. 0.99
01:19:03.000 Bears or dogs or coyotes, something like that.
01:19:05.000 But all of it...
01:19:06.000 We did actual...
01:19:07.000 For that TV show...
01:19:08.000 DNA testing.
01:19:08.000 Yeah, we went to a real lab at NYU, and we did real tests.
01:19:12.000 Right. 1.00
01:19:12.000 It's all bullshit. 1.00
01:19:13.000 There's nothing. 1.00
01:19:14.000 There's not one piece of evidence.
01:19:16.000 And then there was that lady. 1.00
01:19:17.000 Who was that lady from Texas who was claiming that she found DNA? Is there her name Ketchum? 0.99
01:19:21.000 Yeah, Melba Ketchum. 1.00
01:19:22.000 Yeah, Melba Ketchum. 1.00
01:19:23.000 She was saying that she found DNA, that it was some sort of non-human primate. 1.00
01:19:29.000 It's bullshit. 1.00
01:19:30.000 It's tainted. 1.00
01:19:30.000 But she's kind of ostracized in the Bigfoot community. 1.00
01:19:35.000 They've ostracized? 1.00
01:19:36.000 That's how you know you're full of shit. 1.00
01:19:39.000 The Bigfoot community is like, this bitch is too crazy even for us. 1.00
01:19:43.000 Kick rocks, Melba! 1.00
01:19:45.000 You ain't selling your fucking horse shit over here. 1.00
01:19:48.000 Go pedal your shoebox. 1.00
01:19:57.000 So, alright, we're not going to agree on that.
01:19:59.000 But listen, I don't discount the possibility that not only did that animal exist, but it maybe even could still exist.
01:20:06.000 Because the Pacific Northwest is incredibly dense.
01:20:10.000 It's a massive, massive environment.
01:20:12.000 That's the part, that's actually the part, one of the things.
01:20:15.000 When you get out there and you truly, I mean, they lose planes in there.
01:20:19.000 Oh yeah.
01:20:19.000 And they don't find them.
01:20:20.000 You don't find shit. 1.00
01:20:21.000 You can be... 0.99
01:20:23.000 I've been in places where I'm like, I'm not...
01:20:26.000 I'm lost.
01:20:27.000 You know what I mean?
01:20:28.000 And it's a question of like 10, 15 feet.
01:20:31.000 It's that dense.
01:20:32.000 It's crazy.
01:20:33.000 And we're talking about insane amounts of acreage that people just don't live in.
01:20:38.000 From Oregon all the way down to the Northern California range.
01:20:42.000 So, I mean, that's the part that when I started going around and I went in that deep, I was like, wow, this is, it's crazy how remote that is.
01:20:51.000 It makes it compelling.
01:20:53.000 But the shitty stories, the fake footage, the fake footprints, all the fakeness makes me wonder if you're just dealing with a myth that is kind of cool to talk about because it exists in this very strange environment.
01:21:10.000 I totally agree with that.
01:21:14.000 Since I was a kid, I've always been fascinated by these different kinds of characters and who are they and what do they mean to us.
01:21:22.000 And that's really key.
01:21:24.000 I'll be writing a screenplay that has nothing to do with Frankenstein.
01:21:28.000 And I'll realize later on, I'll say, oh, this was Frankenstein.
01:21:33.000 This is someone who was rebuilt after being marred and came through the fire and became this monster that is unstoppable. 0.94
01:21:44.000 And after I get finished writing it, I go, oh, I just wrote Frankenstein, goddammit.
01:21:50.000 And I'm fascinated by that.
01:21:54.000 Well, it's also the fact that Native Americans don't really have a lot of fake animals in their folklore.
01:22:01.000 There's not a lot of...
01:22:03.000 But this one is incredibly prevalent.
01:22:05.000 Yeah.
01:22:06.000 And I really think it has to do with Gigantopithecus.
01:22:09.000 And if you follow where Gigantopithecus was, Gigantopithecus was in Asia, and just like all the other animals came across the Bering Strait...
01:22:17.000 If they did come across the Bering Strait, they would be exactly in the area where the sightings are, from Alaska all the way down the Pacific Northwest, Vancouver, northern BC. Those are the areas where you have the BC Rockies.
01:22:32.000 Those are the areas you have the most sightings.
01:22:33.000 But those are areas where the bears are.
01:22:36.000 You know, it's the same range as these black bears.
01:22:39.000 So I think it's entirely possible that at one point in time there was something like that that made it over here along with human beings.
01:22:50.000 And you believe that this is like a subconscious sense memory that has gone from generation to generation?
01:23:01.000 I think it's just stories that get passed down, and those stories become ingrained in our head, and then we go looking for it.
01:23:07.000 And I think it's entirely possible that written language is like, how long has spoken language been around for?
01:23:13.000 I want to say...
01:23:15.000 I want to say it's like 40,000 years, but I might be wrong.
01:23:18.000 I think spoken language is like 40,000 years old, which is not really that long.
01:23:24.000 Which means spoken language most likely was around somewhere around the time that animal existed.
01:23:31.000 Like if they didn't know that Gigantopithecus existed at all until the 1920s, and the bones that they got from this one area were dated at about 100,000 years old.
01:23:44.000 It's entirely feasible that these animals could have survived another 30, 40, 50, who knows how many thousands of years until it eventually became extinct.
01:23:53.000 So if that's the case, I think people probably experienced them.
01:23:57.000 They probably came in contact with them.
01:24:00.000 And there's also, there was a bunch of different bears that existed.
01:24:06.000 Was it a flathead or a flat-faced bear?
01:24:09.000 I forget what it's called, flat-nosed bear, flat-faced bear, but it was a prehistoric bear that existed in the Pleistocene that was such a formidable predator, apparently, according to Dan Flores, that he thinks it impeded the progress of people from Asia to North America.
01:24:28.000 It was a huge, like the biggest bear, like as big as a Kodiak grizzly.
01:24:33.000 So that these enormous bears, flathead bear, short-faced bear, that's it.
01:24:38.000 That's it.
01:24:39.000 Wow. 1.00
01:24:39.000 Look at the size of this fucking thing. 1.00
01:24:41.000 I mean, this is an absolutely enormous bear that was the apex predator of North America that went extinct. 1.00
01:24:50.000 Look at the size of it.
01:24:52.000 Look how big they were.
01:24:52.000 Wow.
01:24:54.000 I mean, it's a fucking monstrous, monstrous predatory animal. 1.00
01:24:58.000 And that this animal was the preeminent predator of North America. 1.00
01:25:04.000 And what year was that?
01:25:05.000 Not that long ago.
01:25:06.000 I mean, while humans were alive, for sure.
01:25:08.000 Wow.
01:25:11.000 Find out when it went extinct.
01:25:12.000 11,000 years ago. 0.99
01:25:14.000 That ain't shit. 0.97
01:25:15.000 That's nothing. 0.99
01:25:15.000 That ain't shit. 0.99
01:25:16.000 So that would also be, especially if it, like the black bear and like many grizzlies, walks on two legs. 0.99
01:25:23.000 Right.
01:25:23.000 So if that thing was out there walking around on two legs, that would, you know, Native Americans.
01:25:27.000 11,000 years ago?
01:25:28.000 Yeah.
01:25:29.000 Native Americans have some weird relationships with bears, too.
01:25:31.000 It's one of the few animals that they refuse to hunt.
01:25:34.000 They don't hunt them.
01:25:36.000 And a lot of the First Nation people up in Canada, like I have a buddy of mine who lives up in Canada, and he hunts bears, and he trades with First Nation people.
01:25:46.000 They won't hunt bears, but they want bear fat for their medicine, and they use it to make pies and a bunch of different things.
01:25:53.000 You know, like bear lard is like very prized, but they won't hunt bears themselves.
01:25:58.000 Weird religious stuff, like weird cultural stuff.
01:26:01.000 They believe that it's like an ancestor that's come back.
01:26:04.000 They have some interesting ideas about bears.
01:26:07.000 Their ancestors are delicious.
01:26:09.000 Yeah.
01:26:09.000 Well, they taste good if they eat the right foods.
01:26:11.000 If you find a bear that's a coastal bear that's been eating a lot of salmon, they're not fun to eat.
01:26:15.000 Because they eat a lot of rotten fish, and they taste terrible, apparently.
01:26:18.000 But the bears that I've eaten have only been the ones that live in these dense woods, and their diet's primarily berries.
01:26:24.000 What part of the country?
01:26:25.000 Alberta.
01:26:26.000 That's where you go, bear?
01:26:27.000 Yeah, northern Alberta.
01:26:29.000 Mostly what they're eating is berries, and each other, unfortunately.
01:26:33.000 Really?
01:26:34.000 100%.
01:26:35.000 That's one of the big things about bears, is that, especially the males, which is the ones you go after and kill, they eat cubs.
01:26:41.000 Wow.
01:26:42.000 Yeah, like all of them do.
01:26:43.000 It's like one of the main things they go looking for once they come out of hibernation.
01:26:48.000 Wow, all apologies to my dad.
01:26:50.000 Yeah.
01:26:51.000 It could have been a lot worse.
01:26:52.000 It could have been a lot worse.
01:26:53.000 And there's two theories about that.
01:26:55.000 I couldn't have another Bobby if I tried.
01:26:58.000 I'm so full.
01:27:00.000 Yeah, it's awful.
01:27:02.000 It happened when we were there two years ago.
01:27:06.000 One of the guys who was a guide there saw...
01:27:09.000 We saw two bears fight.
01:27:11.000 I saw it in my own eyes.
01:27:12.000 A bear trying to kill this female's cubs and she fought him off. 0.87
01:27:17.000 And she kept fighting him off and he kept coming in.
01:27:20.000 She kept fighting him off.
01:27:20.000 Meanwhile, her babies were up in trees.
01:27:22.000 The babies ran up in trees.
01:27:24.000 We were watching her move around.
01:27:27.000 We're good to go.
01:27:47.000 Fifty yards away between these two bears.
01:27:49.000 I mean, they're going to war.
01:27:50.000 It was crazy, right?
01:27:52.000 It was really fascinating.
01:27:53.000 It was too dark even for us to shoot the big male bear Because it was just it was wasn't enough visibility wouldn't be ethical to do but it was fascinating to watch like she was protecting her babies from predation from another bear and she and she Scared it up.
01:28:08.000 Yes, but here's what happened Not with this bear, but in the same time we were there, one bear came in and one of the guides saw it happen, got a hold of one of the cubs, killed it in front of everybody, was eating it.
01:28:20.000 Then she chased him off, and then she finished her own cub. 0.99
01:28:26.000 Ugh.
01:28:27.000 It's a hardscrabble world up there.
01:28:29.000 Yeah.
01:28:29.000 Living in the woods of northern Canada.
01:28:31.000 It's no joke.
01:28:32.000 Wow.
01:28:33.000 Yeah, it's no joke.
01:28:34.000 Wow. 1.00
01:28:34.000 It's scary shit. 1.00
01:28:36.000 And so that's the reality of these animals. 1.00
01:28:38.000 And the population up there is insane.
01:28:42.000 There are so many of them.
01:28:44.000 Really?
01:28:45.000 Yeah.
01:28:45.000 When people think, like, they think, oh, you're killing bears.
01:28:48.000 Why would you kill bears?
01:28:49.000 There's not even that many bears.
01:28:50.000 You're going to...
01:28:51.000 Go to Alberta. 1.00
01:28:52.000 There's a lot of fucking bears. 1.00
01:28:54.000 They're all over the place. 1.00
01:28:56.000 It's not uncommon on a day up there to see 18 bears.
01:28:59.000 We've seen more than that on other days.
01:29:02.000 It's crazy.
01:29:03.000 You always see bears.
01:29:04.000 You always see them.
01:29:05.000 When you go hunting for bears, the success rate is very high, and the population is very high.
01:29:12.000 They encourage it. 0.85
01:29:13.000 They want you to kill two large males. 1.00
01:29:15.000 They give you a tag to kill two of them because they're killing all of these fawns. 1.00
01:29:22.000 They're killing moose calves, elk calves, and deer fawns. 0.77
01:29:28.000 They wipe out more than 50% of all the baby moose, baby deer, and baby elk.
01:29:36.000 Moose.
01:29:37.000 Yeah.
01:29:37.000 Do you ever see them?
01:29:38.000 Oh, yeah.
01:29:39.000 That's a moose.
01:29:40.000 That is...
01:29:40.000 Oh, really?
01:29:41.000 Yeah, that's a juvenile moose.
01:29:43.000 Yeah, that's a...
01:29:43.000 Yeah, they're huge.
01:29:45.000 That was huge.
01:29:45.000 That thing was 900 pounds.
01:29:46.000 Wow.
01:29:47.000 Yeah.
01:29:48.000 Wow.
01:29:48.000 It's funny.
01:29:49.000 Like, none of this sets me off.
01:29:52.000 And, you know, and I said...
01:29:53.000 Because, I mean, this is what I grew up with.
01:29:54.000 Right.
01:29:55.000 There was always...
01:29:56.000 There was...
01:29:56.000 I remember once my brother...
01:29:58.000 You know, he would clean the deer in the garage, and he had this idea that he was going to take the skin off, so he sliced the, you know, he was going to peel the skin off of the deer.
01:30:16.000 With a truck?
01:30:18.000 His Volkswagen.
01:30:19.000 Okay.
01:30:19.000 So he hooked it up, and then it just snapped him.
01:30:24.000 Hooked the deer in half?
01:30:25.000 Yeah!
01:30:26.000 Oh, God.
01:30:27.000 That's dark.
01:30:28.000 Dark, yeah.
01:30:29.000 Maybe that's why I'm a vegan.
01:30:31.000 And I'm a tiny little boy.
01:30:35.000 It's like Tommy's in the garage dismantling Rudolph with his Volkswagen bug.
01:30:45.000 I had this conversation with these guys from this documentary, Cowspiracy, and it was all really heavy, and it's really about factory farming, which I think is disgusting, and I think pretty much everybody does, and the ag-gag laws, which are even more disgusting, 0.50
01:31:01.000 which are these laws that are in place to keep you from taking video footage of any atrocities.
01:31:06.000 And then I went home, and I turned on that Steve Rinella guy's show, And he was showing how to butcher a deer.
01:31:13.000 And one of the ways they did it was they take a rock and they wrap the hide up in this rock and then tie it off.
01:31:22.000 And then tie that rope on that rock to a truck. 0.94
01:31:26.000 And then pull it. 0.99
01:31:27.000 And it just looks so fucked up. 0.99
01:31:30.000 This deer hanging by its haunches. 1.00
01:31:33.000 And then they just strip the skin off of it like a sheet.
01:31:38.000 Is it safe?
01:31:39.000 Is it safe?
01:31:41.000 And then they're cutting it up and slicing it and turning it into roasts and chops and steaks and hamburger meat.
01:31:49.000 It's just the cold reality of what meat is and where it comes from.
01:31:55.000 Which has escaped us.
01:31:58.000 It has left the consciousness of most people who eat meat.
01:32:02.000 They don't experience it.
01:32:04.000 They don't see it.
01:32:05.000 It's one of the things that's insidious about a lack of information.
01:32:10.000 Because a lack of information changes the actual context.
01:32:14.000 It changes what a thing is to you.
01:32:16.000 It's one of the things I think is really devious about what the Bush administration did when they passed laws that kept people from taking photographs of coffins.
01:32:25.000 Just coffins.
01:32:26.000 They made a law against press taking photographs.
01:32:30.000 Which is crazy.
01:32:31.000 Because they're filtering and controlling the narrative so much that you can't even see an American flag draped coffin.
01:32:42.000 It's very dark.
01:32:43.000 Because then war in your mind.
01:32:44.000 I remember when that happened.
01:32:45.000 Yeah, war in your mind only means war if you lost your friend, or if you lost your husband, or if you lost your wife.
01:32:52.000 Then it becomes war.
01:32:53.000 But if it's just somebody you don't even know, then it allows you to just keep going on about your business.
01:32:58.000 And it's a number, and it's just a number, and it's very, yeah.
01:33:02.000 I mean, what...
01:33:05.000 One of the things that got us out of Vietnam was the footage that was on the news every night when you're having dinner.
01:33:11.000 And that was what ended it.
01:33:15.000 I mean, what do I know?
01:33:16.000 But that felt like what ended it to me.
01:33:18.000 Well, look, here we are.
01:33:19.000 It's 15 years later.
01:33:21.000 We're still in Afghanistan.
01:33:23.000 Yeah.
01:33:24.000 Why?
01:33:25.000 And there's never any footage.
01:33:28.000 Never.
01:33:28.000 And when I was a kid...
01:33:29.000 You have to search for it.
01:33:30.000 When I was a kid, that was what was on during the news while we're having dinner.
01:33:34.000 And that was what I saw my parents turn, you know.
01:33:39.000 My parents went from cursing hippies and war protesters to going to the other side.
01:33:46.000 Wow.
01:33:47.000 That must have been interesting.
01:33:49.000 Yeah, I mean, I watched it, you know.
01:33:50.000 And so...
01:33:52.000 Yeah, the fact that I remember when that happened, it was crazy.
01:34:00.000 But I think the new administration is going to fix everything.
01:34:05.000 For sure.
01:34:06.000 Especially if Trump wins.
01:34:07.000 Yeah, I'm very excited about that.
01:34:09.000 If Hillary Clinton wins, it's going to be all different, folks.
01:34:12.000 It's not going to be business as usual.
01:34:14.000 It's not going to be just politics.
01:34:15.000 It's not going to be about money controlling politics.
01:34:17.000 It's not.
01:34:18.000 I don't care where she gets her money from. 1.00
01:34:20.000 Dude, she's got ethics. 1.00
01:34:21.000 She's got morals. 1.00
01:34:22.000 Those bankers, they could pay her hundreds of thousands of dollars. 0.99
01:34:25.000 She's going to tell them off.
01:34:26.000 Yeah.
01:34:26.000 It is an insane camp.
01:34:32.000 I've never seen anything like this.
01:34:33.000 I'm 53 years old.
01:34:34.000 It's the most insane, right?
01:34:35.000 Barry must be loving it.
01:34:36.000 You know what's funny?
01:34:38.000 It's Godfather 3, because Barry was out, you know?
01:34:42.000 And they dragged him back in.
01:34:44.000 You know, it's so crazy that he had to get back in.
01:34:47.000 I know, he was like up in the woods.
01:34:48.000 Yeah, I know.
01:34:49.000 Isn't it great?
01:34:50.000 It's kind of funny.
01:34:51.000 So we all get a gift from that. 0.95
01:34:56.000 But it highlights how ridiculous the system is, that this is all it needs. 0.82
01:35:00.000 You just need the public's attention. 0.88
01:35:02.000 Yeah, and the fact that it's not one man, one vote.
01:35:05.000 Well, there's a whole lot of that, but there's also, like, what has our society become?
01:35:09.000 Our society's become this crazy thing where we pay attention to whatever spectacles on the news.
01:35:14.000 Well, that spectacle is now a guy who's running for president with plastic hair.
01:35:19.000 That guy, this reality star, you're fired! 0.99
01:35:22.000 You know, those Mexicans are gonna build us a wall! 1.00
01:35:24.000 The wall just got ten foot higher! 1.00
01:35:27.000 Now the morons are fucking up in arms, like, we got a king! 1.00
01:35:31.000 We're gonna fucking take over! 1.00
01:35:34.000 It's exciting! 1.00
01:35:35.000 White people are very excited, too.
01:35:38.000 White men. 0.84
01:35:39.000 Let's make America white again. 0.99
01:35:41.000 White men and mean ladies. 0.96
01:35:42.000 There's a lot of mean ladies that like Trump. 1.00
01:35:45.000 All buttoned down, angry faces, thin lips like this. 0.94
01:35:48.000 It's also interesting to the Republicans trying to knock out him, which is crazy, too.
01:35:56.000 What can they do?
01:35:56.000 I mean, what do they have left?
01:35:58.000 I don't know.
01:35:58.000 No one else is running.
01:35:59.000 Yeah, Mitt didn't work.
01:36:00.000 They have nothing now.
01:36:01.000 Nobody's ever said, quick, give me a Mormon.
01:36:04.000 Did you hear about the guy who was writing a blogger, who was writing a piece about Ted Cruz's connection, his father's connection to the death of Lee Harvey Oswald?
01:36:15.000 No.
01:36:15.000 That apparently Ted Cruz's father was involved in some way with the death of Lee Harvey Oswald.
01:36:21.000 Not only that, he may have played a part in the assassination attempt.
01:36:25.000 With President Kennedy.
01:36:27.000 He might have had a part in the assassination of President Kennedy. 1.00
01:36:30.000 Ted Cruz's fucking dad. 1.00
01:36:32.000 So Ted Cruz's dad has some sort of connection to Jack Ruby? 1.00
01:36:37.000 Yes.
01:36:37.000 And has some sort of a connection with the people that were rebelling against the Batista regime.
01:36:45.000 And, like, a lot of his story, apparently, is bullshit. 0.94
01:36:50.000 And, like, people who have looked into it, it's one of the things they were looking into while he was running for president. 0.99
01:36:54.000 They're like, his dad, it doesn't...
01:36:56.000 The story of his dad, his dad came over on a raft with $100 sewn into his underwear.
01:37:00.000 He had one of those stories.
01:37:01.000 And he made it with good old-fashioned American ingenuity.
01:37:05.000 Apparently not.
01:37:06.000 Apparently he was, like, a rebel.
01:37:08.000 You know?
01:37:08.000 And he may have played a part in the death of Lee Harvey Oswald.
01:37:13.000 Wow.
01:37:13.000 Yeah.
01:37:14.000 Well, there was a guy who was writing a story about it, and he wound up dead.
01:37:18.000 Wow.
01:37:19.000 Yeah.
01:37:20.000 And, you know, the guy even wrote, hey, if I'm not around anymore, you know, this is what happened, and this is the story, but... 1.00
01:37:27.000 People do that kind of shit before they kill themselves. 0.98
01:37:30.000 That's part of the problem, because they think there's a real story, and one of the things, they're all depressed, and they think, one of the things that I'm going to do, I'm going to make this story happen, I'm going to blow my brains out, and they're going to think that, you know, they're going to look into this, because they're going to think that I was whacked by the man, like, as if anybody is running around killing people over Lee Harvey Oswald's death today. 1.00
01:37:51.000 What's that, Jamie?
01:37:52.000 These are the photos that they found of.
01:37:54.000 Of Ted Cruz's dad?
01:37:55.000 Yeah, this guy in the white shirt here.
01:37:57.000 That's Ted Cruz's dad.
01:37:58.000 This was an unidentified man from the Warren Commission, so they think that that's him.
01:38:03.000 Oh, he looks like a Cuban fella. 1.00
01:38:06.000 Yeah, there's a couple pictures of it, but that's the link.
01:38:12.000 Most likely.
01:38:13.000 I'm going with that.
01:38:14.000 I'm going to run with it.
01:38:18.000 That's him today.
01:38:19.000 Well, apparently his story doesn't add up.
01:38:22.000 When they check out his history, when he says he got here, when he actually was here, there's a lot of funky business. 0.89
01:38:32.000 And by the way, I have a fucking very, very shallow knowledge of this story. 0.76
01:38:37.000 I leafed over it today. 0.99
01:38:39.000 Cruz responds, yes, my dad killed JFK, secret Eli Elvis, and Jimmy Hoffa's buried in his backyard.
01:38:45.000 Ha, ha, ha, ha.
01:38:46.000 Ty Cruise got sunk by that video that showed the outtakes of him making one of those videos.
01:38:53.000 Did you see that?
01:38:54.000 No, no, no.
01:38:54.000 With the family and his mom and everything.
01:38:57.000 Oh, fantastic.
01:38:57.000 One of them was like, my mom prays for me, oftentimes hours a day.
01:39:02.000 And she went like... 0.99
01:39:03.000 And they showed the footage of his mom like, what? 0.99
01:39:08.000 If I don't fucking pray for you hours a day, what am I, crazy? 0.99
01:39:12.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00
01:39:13.000 They made them do take after take.
01:39:17.000 There it is.
01:39:17.000 It was like so fake.
01:39:19.000 Oh, this is great.
01:39:19.000 It's so fake.
01:39:20.000 We can't hear it without the headset on.
01:39:22.000 There's his dad.
01:39:22.000 He killed JFK. That's what I heard.
01:39:25.000 Want to hear it?
01:39:26.000 Here, put the headset on.
01:39:27.000 Earlier this year, the Cruz campaign posted hours of this footage on YouTube.
01:39:31.000 By law, campaigns can't coordinate with super PACs, so many quietly post raw videos like this on public websites as a way to share material legally.
01:39:39.000 But it lets us take a rare peek behind the scenes at the strange world of political ad making.
01:39:44.000 Give me a couple lines from Green Exit.
01:39:49.000 That's too personal, Ted.
01:39:51.000 I don't want to tell that.
01:39:52.000 I do like it.
01:39:52.000 I'll like it in a box.
01:39:53.000 I'll like it in a goat.
01:39:54.000 I'll like it.
01:39:55.000 I want to tell that, and you're the best person to tell that.
01:39:58.000 Well, there's some very personal details that I don't want to go into.
01:40:05.000 I don't like it.
01:40:05.000 I don't like it.
01:40:06.000 I don't like it.
01:40:06.000 I'm Sam.
01:40:07.000 I am.
01:40:07.000 I am.
01:40:07.000 I'm Sam.
01:40:08.000 You don't have to go into it.
01:40:09.000 Tell me.
01:40:10.000 When Ted was three...
01:40:11.000 Look at me.
01:40:13.000 I need the book if you want to give me specific lines.
01:40:15.000 Not a day goes by that my mom is not lifting me up in prayer.
01:40:19.000 That's true.
01:40:20.000 For hours.
01:40:21.000 At a time.
01:40:24.000 Our family has actually made a difference in impact in our country today.
01:40:30.000 Am I supposed to say, like, the same type?
01:40:32.000 My family background is that my grandfather was a missionary in Africa for about 40 years.
01:40:38.000 I don't know what else to say.
01:40:40.000 I don't know.
01:40:40.000 Just keep talking.
01:40:41.000 Just keep talking.
01:40:43.000 Look at the kid.
01:40:43.000 Poor kid.
01:40:44.000 My fucking crazy dad. 1.00
01:40:46.000 My brother thinks too much. 1.00
01:40:47.000 I can't get his gig down.
01:40:48.000 He doesn't live there.
01:40:49.000 It seems like everything is staged.
01:40:50.000 Even hugs.
01:40:52.000 I'm proud of you, Joey.
01:40:53.000 I love you.
01:40:53.000 Oh, no.
01:40:54.000 Who's that guy?
01:40:55.000 I love you, too.
01:40:56.000 I love you, too.
01:40:57.000 I love you, too.
01:40:58.000 I love you, dear.
01:41:00.000 I love you.
01:41:01.000 Oh, fake.
01:41:03.000 I love you. 1.00
01:41:03.000 I killed JFK. He got it right in his ear. 1.00
01:41:06.000 That's what I heard.
01:41:07.000 This is the same as what we're talking about.
01:41:10.000 Line.
01:41:11.000 Yeah, this is Bigfoot.
01:41:12.000 I love you.
01:41:12.000 Line.
01:41:12.000 This might as well be Bigfoot.
01:41:13.000 Look at this.
01:41:14.000 They're sitting around at the dinner table.
01:41:15.000 Just didn't even know a camera was there.
01:41:17.000 Camera just caught us.
01:41:18.000 It's weird.
01:41:19.000 Wow.
01:41:20.000 Let's hold hands in prayer. 0.81
01:41:21.000 Dear magic man in the sky, who doesn't like gay people, let's make sure that our food has all been blessed.
01:41:28.000 This is just a casual, uh, you know, we say grace.
01:41:32.000 First we lay the dolly track out. 1.00
01:41:34.000 First of all, why are you pretending this is your fucking kitchen table, bitch? 1.00
01:41:37.000 You know you got some nice house. 1.00
01:41:38.000 You got cash. 1.00
01:41:39.000 You're not living a simple, humble life, you fuck. 1.00
01:41:43.000 We were looking at, before you got here, something that I forgot about. 1.00
01:41:49.000 Can we play that?
01:41:50.000 What?
01:41:52.000 I forgot about this, and recently I was doing a show, a stand-up show, and the guy in the booth played it, Avery, and in my mind it was lot, lot, it was way more chill.
01:42:06.000 Arsenio Hall got cancelled, and this is footage of me going on the show. 0.99
01:42:14.000 What I want to know is, do I still have to keep kissing your ass? 0.99
01:42:19.000 This is after he's cancelled? 1.00
01:42:20.000 Yeah.
01:42:21.000 Why make it easier for the next guy?
01:42:29.000 Are you really quitting?
01:42:30.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99
01:42:31.000 Come on, let's cut the s*** right now. 0.99
01:42:43.000 He's spray-painted on his set. 0.98
01:42:47.000 Yeah, it's...
01:42:49.000 What are you saying?
01:42:51.000 Paramount. 1.00
01:42:52.000 Paramount sucks. 0.99
01:42:58.000 I don't even remember this. 0.98
01:43:01.000 Now, nobody stopped you, so did they not know you were doing it?
01:43:04.000 No, they did not know I was going to do this.
01:43:05.000 Oh, did they know you had a can in your pocket?
01:43:07.000 No, no, no.
01:43:08.000 After this, I would start getting patted down when I did shows.
01:43:11.000 And this is before you lit the Tonight Show on fire.
01:43:16.000 So you threw couch cushions into the audience?
01:43:19.000 Watch this, though.
01:43:19.000 This is...
01:43:24.000 Oh my god, you took a monitor and smashed it.
01:43:27.000 Jesus Christ.
01:43:27.000 That's a $3,000 monitor.
01:43:28.000 Did they charge you for that?
01:43:30.000 No, they were nice.
01:43:31.000 Leno charged me for the chair.
01:43:32.000 He did?
01:43:33.000 Yeah.
01:43:34.000 How much did he charge you for the chair?
01:43:35.000 It was like 500 bucks or something like that.
01:43:37.000 Oh my god, dude.
01:43:38.000 You're going crazy.
01:43:39.000 This is so punk rock. 0.75
01:43:41.000 Look at Arsenio stepping in and trying to stop you.
01:43:43.000 But he's laughing while he's doing it.
01:43:44.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:43:45.000 But here's a funny one.
01:43:46.000 Oh, this is hilarious.
01:43:52.000 I like how you kept your hat on the entire time.
01:43:56.000 Here's what's funny.
01:43:58.000 Oh yeah, okay, stop here.
01:44:00.000 But they just, when they broadcasted, they put this logo up.
01:44:04.000 Yeah, that's...
01:44:04.000 Oh, that's funny.
01:44:06.000 But so, when they broadcasted, they put that logo up because the director at the time just had this loving shot push into Paramount Sucks.
01:44:14.000 Oh, that's funny.
01:44:15.000 That was what they had a problem with.
01:44:16.000 But when he wrestled me down, he actually, he whispers into my ear as they're going to commercial.
01:44:21.000 He goes, thanks, man.
01:44:27.000 So then, yeah, then Leno booked me, like, four days after.
01:44:31.000 Oh, that's hilarious.
01:44:32.000 And you lit his set on fire.
01:44:33.000 Yeah, he's like...
01:44:34.000 Because you thought, like, that's what they want.
01:44:35.000 I was just...
01:44:36.000 I was more angry, I think, at Jay.
01:44:38.000 But, yeah, he's like, so, you know, what happened over on Athenio?
01:44:42.000 And I go, what are you angry at Jay for?
01:44:44.000 I eat my ego and fear.
01:44:48.000 He suddenly was having me on the show.
01:44:51.000 I was going on the show and people seemed like they liked me.
01:44:54.000 And the idea of being accepted on such a mass level was terrifying.
01:44:58.000 And I think I resented him because even though he's older than me, I've been doing comedy almost the same amount of time.
01:45:05.000 And he was always kind of always like doling out a vice.
01:45:08.000 And it's like, well, I don't want to have your career.
01:45:10.000 You know what I mean?
01:45:11.000 It's like, I'm a man and I make my decisions.
01:45:15.000 I just do a different kind of comedy as you.
01:45:17.000 I'm not criticizing the kind of comedy you guys do.
01:45:21.000 There was all those sweater acts back then. 0.98
01:45:24.000 And I don't regret it, but I do think it was kind of an asshole move to Jay. 0.99
01:45:32.000 It was an aggressive move. 0.96
01:45:33.000 And I apologized to him later on, years later.
01:45:36.000 I was being nasty.
01:45:38.000 Where Jay belongs is what he's doing now.
01:45:44.000 Like doing that car show. 0.99
01:45:45.000 He's fucking great at it. 0.99
01:45:47.000 He's great on it. 1.00
01:45:48.000 It's fun.
01:45:49.000 He's a different guy.
01:45:51.000 Well, but he's a funny guy.
01:45:53.000 On Letterman, you mean?
01:45:54.000 He would crush.
01:45:55.000 He would crush.
01:45:57.000 Um, I haven't seen the car show and stuff. 1.00
01:45:59.000 Well, a lot of comics felt betrayed because he was this guy who was kind of like the hip smart voice of like mocking a lot of the stupid shit that we saw in the world. 0.95
01:46:10.000 And then all of a sudden he gets this tonight show gig and he becomes Mr. Living Room. 0.99
01:46:15.000 Yeah.
01:46:15.000 And he was, he went from, yeah, I mean, it looks like I'm peeing fire there actually.
01:46:23.000 So he's got this show now.
01:46:25.000 I think it's funny, like, in my memory, I was like, it was just a little fire, but that's a pretty good-sized flame.
01:46:29.000 People could have died, for sure.
01:46:30.000 See, this is, because I have lighter fluid, that's what made it arson, because it was premeditated.
01:46:36.000 Ah, premeditated.
01:46:37.000 As opposed to you being in the moment.
01:46:39.000 Well, I mean, if I just set it on fire with a lighter, then, yeah, that's why it was arson.
01:46:46.000 But anyway, his show that he's doing now, it's like something that he actually cares about.
01:46:51.000 And we talked about it.
01:46:51.000 I had him on the podcast, and he was like, yeah, I mean, I would have these, you know, he couldn't pick who was on The Tonight Show.
01:46:56.000 So they would put people on, like, from reality shows, and he'd be like, he'd have to say, so, are you and her ever going to get married, or what's going to happen?
01:47:03.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:47:04.000 Yeah, that's the nature of that.
01:47:06.000 I think Letterman made a decision after some days, I think I'm paraphrasing, but someone said, who was on the show tonight?
01:47:14.000 And he was like, I don't know.
01:47:16.000 And then he was like, I gotta...
01:47:17.000 Yeah, that was when he decided to retire.
01:47:19.000 Like, he couldn't remember.
01:47:21.000 I get that.
01:47:22.000 When I used to direct The Kimmel Show, someone would say, who was on last night?
01:47:25.000 And I couldn't remember.
01:47:26.000 Yeah.
01:47:27.000 Because it's a grind.
01:47:28.000 It's weird.
01:47:29.000 Yeah, it's a weird gig.
01:47:30.000 I'm always fascinated by the ego of the guy.
01:47:32.000 Remember the guy who tried to blackmail Letterman?
01:47:35.000 Yes, yeah. 0.99
01:47:36.000 Well, he was fucking the guy's girlfriend or whatever it was. 0.99
01:47:39.000 Letterman had had some sort of relationship, and now this guy has a relationship. 0.98
01:47:45.000 My, you know, my take on it was this guy couldn't get past that she used to bang Letterman. 1.00
01:47:53.000 Probably.
01:47:54.000 There's probably some of that.
01:47:55.000 And he was going through a bad divorce, so he's like, I got this thing, I'm going to blackmail Letterman and let his current girlfriend, the woman who became his wife, about this, he's going to blow up the whole thing.
01:48:07.000 And I love that Letterman, what the guy never, ever, ever thought of, what if the guy just does the right thing?
01:48:14.000 Yeah.
01:48:14.000 Letterman just said, hey, you know, this happened.
01:48:17.000 It went on TV. Yeah, it was beautiful.
01:48:19.000 And it didn't become a story like the way it normally would. 0.97
01:48:23.000 And he didn't do that bullshit, fake, I did something wrong. 0.97
01:48:26.000 He said, this is between my wife and I, but someone's blackmailing. 0.98
01:48:30.000 I mean, just, you know, because I always...
01:48:33.000 That faux apology is really strange, like, for nothing.
01:48:38.000 You know, like, when Hugh Grant apologized, he said, well, I did a bad thing.
01:48:43.000 It's like...
01:48:43.000 Well, did you?
01:48:46.000 And would...
01:48:48.000 If you hadn't been arrested, would you have said, hey, I did a bad thing last night.
01:48:53.000 Right. 0.98
01:48:54.000 I didn't get arrested or anything, but you guys should know I picked up a hooker. 0.99
01:48:58.000 Right. 0.80
01:48:58.000 You know what I mean? 0.80
01:48:59.000 What are you apologizing for?
01:49:02.000 But Letterman didn't do a faux apology.
01:49:04.000 He just did the right thing.
01:49:05.000 And the guy's life came down like a house of cards.
01:49:09.000 And I think...
01:49:10.000 He was in jail.
01:49:10.000 Yeah.
01:49:11.000 And I think as a young man, you can't get past your partner's history.
01:49:16.000 You know?
01:49:17.000 And this guy...
01:49:18.000 I just think...
01:49:19.000 I don't know.
01:49:19.000 There's something really poetic.
01:49:20.000 I don't know.
01:49:21.000 I'm fascinated by the story.
01:49:22.000 Because the twist is all David Letterman did was the right thing.
01:49:26.000 And that was shocking to this guy and almost to our society.
01:49:30.000 We couldn't do anything with it.
01:49:32.000 We couldn't exploit it.
01:49:32.000 Couldn't sell People magazine when somebody's just square.
01:49:36.000 He also did it the way he confessed on television.
01:49:40.000 He did it like a David Letterman conversation.
01:49:44.000 Well, um... 0.97
01:49:46.000 I was having sex with someone who worked with me. 0.99
01:49:49.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:49:49.000 And everybody's like, what the fuck is he doing? 1.00
01:49:51.000 I love it! 0.98
01:49:54.000 We spend so much time on all this trying to manage stuff instead of actually owning something.
01:50:01.000 Instead of saying, this is what I did.
01:50:03.000 This is what I did wrong.
01:50:05.000 It's really none of your business.
01:50:07.000 Yeah.
01:50:08.000 Well, it's like when we catch someone lying about something and then they're deceptive, that's when people get really into something.
01:50:16.000 But when someone comes out and just owns it, like Charlie Sheen.
01:50:20.000 Charlie Sheen, when he went on all these shows, he said, yeah, I smoke rocks.
01:50:24.000 That's what you do.
01:50:25.000 I smoke all this coke, because that's how I roll, baby. 0.99
01:50:29.000 Everybody's like, I fucking love this guy. 0.99
01:50:31.000 But meanwhile, if someone had footage of him smoking crack and out there banging hookers, people would be like, oh my god, his career is over. 0.99
01:50:40.000 Yeah, and he would say, I gotta put a spin on this.
01:50:43.000 Yeah, there would be some sort of recovery.
01:50:47.000 What's really interesting is the Charlie Sheen thing, we're finding out that the whole tailspin that he went through in like 2012 was because he found out he had HIV. That's really part of what this all was about.
01:51:00.000 And that's what the most recent blackmail attempts against him was.
01:51:05.000 Apparently he's paid millions of dollars to quiet this down.
01:51:08.000 And he had all these sexual partners and didn't tell them, I guess.
01:51:11.000 So there's all sorts of other lawsuits and all sorts of craziness involved. 1.00
01:51:14.000 But that's what set him off and what made him say, fuck it. 0.98
01:51:18.000 I'm just going to go out and tell everybody everything. 1.00
01:51:20.000 And it was because he had HIV. It's really nuts. 0.68
01:51:26.000 I was thinking of someone else's story at the same time.
01:51:30.000 I don't know.
01:51:32.000 I think we're just so used to this filter that when someone is just generally honest and saying that that is actually the most powerful thing and it takes all the sting out.
01:51:47.000 There's no gossip.
01:51:50.000 You say, yeah, I did this.
01:51:51.000 I think people are way more concerned with deception than they are with folly. 0.95
01:51:57.000 They're way more concerned with deception than they are with people fucking up, with people making mistakes.
01:52:03.000 Well, I think it's funny when people will talk. 0.74
01:52:06.000 I mean, not that it was a big deal that I set the Leno show on fire, but people now will come up to me and say, they'll be like, Or stories appear that say I was banned from The Tonight Show.
01:52:18.000 And it's like, no, I wasn't.
01:52:20.000 You made that step.
01:52:22.000 I was on a week later.
01:52:25.000 You decided that.
01:52:27.000 Right, right, right.
01:52:28.000 And that's a common thing in bios of me.
01:52:32.000 I see people saying that I was banned from The Tonight Show.
01:52:34.000 I was banned for a whole seven days.
01:52:38.000 You lit it on fire, and then a week later you came back and would just say, hey, man, I'm really...
01:52:42.000 No, we did a bit, you know.
01:52:44.000 Of you lighting you on a fire again?
01:52:45.000 No, no.
01:52:46.000 He had me back on the show and he had me buried in dirt up to my neck.
01:52:51.000 It was funny, you know?
01:52:53.000 So, it's like, no, that didn't happen.
01:52:55.000 Right.
01:52:55.000 Just, you made the next step.
01:52:58.000 Yeah, it's a common thing.
01:52:59.000 I think we can connect that to Bigfoot. 1.00
01:53:01.000 People, they just make shit up. 1.00
01:53:05.000 Right? 1.00
01:53:06.000 Alright.
01:53:07.000 What do you want me to do?
01:53:08.000 I don't want you to say anything, man.
01:53:10.000 I don't want you to say anything.
01:53:11.000 Look, like I said, I would lose sleep for days if Bigfoot turned out to be true.
01:53:17.000 I'd be so happy.
01:53:18.000 But I'll say this, then that's good. 0.99
01:53:20.000 Look, if someone hit one with a car, and it died, and they had definitive proof that there is a real gigantopithecus, and you see some fucking, you know, land cruiser that's smashed by some gigantic ape that just wandered out of the forest, holy shit, I'd be happy. 0.99
01:53:34.000 I'd be so happy. 0.99
01:53:35.000 A despondent one.
01:53:36.000 Yeah.
01:53:36.000 Well, not even if it was- No, no.
01:53:38.000 I just jumped in front of a truck.
01:53:40.000 Going through a bad breakup.
01:53:44.000 You made Jamie laugh out loud.
01:53:49.000 I could honestly say it would be one of the happiest moments of my life if they found a Bigfoot, if they captured a Bigfoot.
01:53:57.000 I mean, if we were watching on television and we were seeing some footage from some containment area where they had these giant steel bars like Kong and they had this huge...
01:54:08.000 Ten foot tall wandering gorilla.
01:54:11.000 I like your Harry and the Hendersons one better.
01:54:15.000 Which one was that?
01:54:15.000 It just gets hit by a car.
01:54:16.000 Is that what happened in Harry and the Hendersons?
01:54:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:54:19.000 But I much rather have that than this animal sadly captured.
01:54:24.000 One of my favorite hoax stories is a guy in Montana put a ghillie suit on and tried to fake that he was Bigfoot.
01:54:30.000 And one teenager ran him over one way and another teenager ran him over the other way.
01:54:35.000 So he got hit on one side, blam, on one side of the road, then another teenager the other way ran him over.
01:54:40.000 Which is hilarious.
01:54:41.000 And then, you know, it's like, well, he died doing what he loves.
01:54:47.000 You know what I mean?
01:54:47.000 That funeral had to be the Chuckles, the clown, the Mary Tyler Moore.
01:54:54.000 You know what I mean? 0.89
01:54:56.000 He was dressed up trying to fake out people.
01:54:58.000 On meth, wearing a ghillie suit, hanging on the side of the road.
01:55:01.000 Bigfoot!
01:55:02.000 This is going to be funny.
01:55:04.000 Blam! 0.78
01:55:05.000 The girl ran him over. 0.99
01:55:07.000 She saw Bigfoot, she just turned the wheel towards him.
01:55:12.000 I'm gonna be rich!
01:55:13.000 Bam! 0.98
01:55:14.000 I think, well, when we find Bigfoot.
01:55:18.000 When?
01:55:18.000 When.
01:55:19.000 So much confidence.
01:55:20.000 Yeah.
01:55:20.000 I'll be back on.
01:55:21.000 You know, they're talking about using drones, sending drones over the skies.
01:55:25.000 Well, you know that.
01:55:26.000 The canopy wouldn't... 0.99
01:55:28.000 Yeah, you wouldn't be able to see shit. 1.00
01:55:30.000 Yeah, that's ridiculous. 0.99
01:55:31.000 That's the only, the most compelling thing about it is that you just, the territory's so dense. 0.91
01:55:38.000 It's so huge.
01:55:38.000 But there's nothing, man.
01:55:40.000 They don't even have a hair.
01:55:41.000 Not a single piece of evidence.
01:55:43.000 Nothing.
01:55:44.000 Did you ever see the, do you know about Jimmy Stewart's wife?
01:55:48.000 Jimmy Stewart the comedian?
01:55:49.000 Jimmy Stewart the actor.
01:55:51.000 Famous actor, comic actor?
01:55:53.000 His wife smuggled a Yeti finger out of there in her underpants. 1.00
01:55:59.000 What?
01:56:01.000 Out of the Himalayas. 1.00
01:56:02.000 She put it in her pussy? 1.00
01:56:03.000 Is that what you're saying? 1.00
01:56:03.000 No, no. 1.00
01:56:04.000 She put it in her underpants.
01:56:05.000 Why would she put it in her underpants?
01:56:06.000 Oh, in the back.
01:56:07.000 No, she wasn't wearing the underpants.
01:56:09.000 It was on the side.
01:56:10.000 It was like her luggage and she had like...
01:56:12.000 I was so confused.
01:56:14.000 Imagine what she smelled like after she got home. 1.00
01:56:17.000 That's hers? 1.00
01:56:18.000 Well, a piece of this finger...
01:56:21.000 Come on.
01:56:22.000 What is that?
01:56:23.000 And she smuggled it... 1.00
01:56:25.000 Yeti researcher Peter Byrne learned of the Yeti hand and scalp on display at a remote Buddhist monastery.
01:56:31.000 Yeah, but when they do tests...
01:56:32.000 None other than Hollywood actor Jimmy Stewart.
01:56:35.000 Yeah, his wife smuggled it. 0.97
01:56:36.000 No, and then recently there's been a DNA study, and it's not a Yeti.
01:56:42.000 It was...
01:56:43.000 What is it?
01:56:43.000 It's a Buddhist monk's hand.
01:56:44.000 Is that what it is?
01:56:45.000 It's a dude.
01:56:46.000 Yeah, but I'm more fascinated about Jimmy Stewart's wife smuggling what she thought was a Yeti.
01:56:53.000 Yeah.
01:56:53.000 And Jimmy Stewart was part of it.
01:56:55.000 Well, how big was the fucking hand? 0.99
01:56:56.000 Was Lauren Coleman involved in this? 1.00
01:56:57.000 You know how goddamn big a Yeti's hands would be? 0.98
01:57:00.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:57:01.000 Jesus Christ.
01:57:01.000 Well, this monk, he had big hands.
01:57:04.000 Well, that was another thing about the Yeti. 1.00
01:57:06.000 A huge cock. 1.00
01:57:07.000 Hold on, look at this, Jamie. 1.00
01:57:08.000 Google this.
01:57:09.000 There was a...
01:57:10.000 They found one of the reasons why...
01:57:15.000 People saw a Yeti, is that there was a bear in the Himalayas that was thought to be long extinct, and it turns out that it may not be.
01:57:24.000 And it was a different kind of Eurasian bear, some large bear.
01:57:29.000 Is it a white bear?
01:57:31.000 I mean, is it like a polar bear?
01:57:33.000 I don't know.
01:57:33.000 I don't know.
01:57:34.000 But, you know, look, when you're looking at things in the snow...
01:57:38.000 This was fascinating to me once.
01:57:39.000 I was in the woods with these guys, and we're looking at trail cam footage.
01:57:46.000 And it almost looks like a weasel.
01:57:48.000 It's called a Merit.
01:57:50.000 And it was supposed to be extinct.
01:57:54.000 And so this guy's showing me this footage.
01:57:58.000 And he shows, well, yeah, this is a Merit.
01:58:01.000 There hasn't been one in 50 years.
01:58:03.000 And he goes, but take a look at the snow.
01:58:06.000 He buries the lead and he goes, this looks like a footprint.
01:58:10.000 He clicks past it.
01:58:13.000 It's like, dude, you found...
01:58:14.000 He's showing me all this footage.
01:58:16.000 So he found an extinct animal.
01:58:18.000 Yeah, this must be extinct.
01:58:19.000 Yeah, it's a merit.
01:58:20.000 And then he click, click, click, click.
01:58:21.000 Take a look at this.
01:58:22.000 We're looking at a footprint in snow and not concentrating on the fact that he found an extinct animal.
01:58:28.000 Swear to God.
01:58:29.000 I was like, you're burying the lead.
01:58:33.000 You found an animal that was supposed to be dead.
01:58:35.000 But we're looking at what might be Bigfoot Duke.
01:58:40.000 But did he absolutely, positively identify that as a merit, though?
01:58:43.000 Yeah.
01:58:44.000 Wow, so this was like huge news then. 0.99
01:58:46.000 He didn't seem to give a rat's ass. 0.99
01:58:49.000 So did he report it? 0.99
01:58:50.000 Yeah.
01:58:51.000 He did.
01:58:52.000 So now they know this animal isn't extinct.
01:58:54.000 Exactly.
01:58:54.000 Well, there's been some cases of that before.
01:58:56.000 But you know what I mean?
01:58:56.000 Oh, that happens a lot.
01:58:57.000 But I mean, my point is, this is the thing.
01:59:01.000 As much as I love the Bigfoot community, I don't know if you've ever gone and tried to get them to talk about anything else.
01:59:07.000 They don't talk about anything else.
01:59:08.000 They can't.
01:59:09.000 It's all of a sudden, it's really weird.
01:59:12.000 If you bring up something and say, hey, did you guys see the new Avengers movie?
01:59:18.000 Well, it's so compelling to them because this is this thing that they've been searching with no reward.
01:59:24.000 There's no reward and they keep looking and it never happens.
01:59:27.000 Well, there's the women. 1.00
01:59:29.000 The Bigfoot community women? 0.90
01:59:30.000 Yeah, you know.
01:59:32.000 Are there like groupies?
01:59:34.000 No.
01:59:35.000 In the Bigfoot community?
01:59:36.000 I told the women that went with me.
01:59:38.000 I said, really, you know, just no necklines.
01:59:44.000 You guys aren't going to get out of there alive.
01:59:46.000 You got to burk it up.
01:59:47.000 Yeah.
01:59:48.000 I really did.
01:59:49.000 I said, you haven't gotten into one of these before.
01:59:52.000 I don't want to see anyone's figures.
01:59:56.000 What is the most compelling thing to you?
01:59:58.000 Is it eyewitness evidence?
02:00:00.000 I love that.
02:00:01.000 I love that even if someone's lying to me.
02:00:04.000 If that's the case.
02:00:06.000 Listening to someone telling me a story that That they believe is true.
02:00:12.000 I don't think it's someone lying to me.
02:00:14.000 It's my favorite part of finding Bigfoot, when they go to some town community, some community in some small town, and they start talking to them in the community center and asking them, how many of you here have had a Bigfoot encounter?
02:00:26.000 And they know the camera's there, so they're all like...
02:00:29.000 They all raised their hand.
02:00:30.000 When we were doing this thing, I was doing this thing for CBS. It's called Game Show in my head, and what it was is it was a game show.
02:00:36.000 We would put this little earpiece in people, and the game shows, we would send them out into a pre...
02:00:40.000 We created this scenario.
02:00:43.000 They didn't know what it was going to be until they got out there.
02:00:45.000 So they'd be standing there, and then I'd say, all right, here's the deal.
02:00:47.000 You are a news reporter, and you have been sent here to do a report on someone who has seen a UFO. The problem is that person took off.
02:00:59.000 So you need to find a person on the street that will admit that they saw a UFO and they have to tell you that they were taken aboard that UFO and probed.
02:01:08.000 If you can get someone to do that on camera, you'll win.
02:01:11.000 And you make the money.
02:01:12.000 Because it was like a series of tasks they had to do.
02:01:15.000 They all did it.
02:01:16.000 Everybody they asked did it. 1.00
02:01:17.000 They all fucking did it. 1.00
02:01:18.000 And I was watching these people, and that was the first straw in what broke the camel's back to me, that a lot of these stories are bullshit. 1.00
02:01:25.000 Because I was watching these people come up with these fucking stories on the fly. 0.99
02:01:30.000 They weren't actors. 0.99
02:01:31.000 They weren't alerted of it in advance where they prepared a story.
02:01:35.000 They just, hey, I'm in a bind.
02:01:37.000 I'm a reporter.
02:01:38.000 We were sent down here.
02:01:39.000 And these people just ran with it.
02:01:41.000 Years ago, Tom Kenny did that for...
02:01:43.000 He would ask people...
02:01:45.000 He was doing the same thing, saying that there's this new movie coming out starring Danny DeVito.
02:01:52.000 And he would just keep piling on.
02:01:54.000 And they'd go, oh, Danny is so funny.
02:01:57.000 No, it's his mother dies.
02:02:01.000 It's so sad seeing Danny defeated him.
02:02:04.000 Oh, they would just change it?
02:02:05.000 Oh, they would, yeah.
02:02:06.000 If people find out that they're going to be interviewed and they find out that they're on camera, they will do all kinds of crazy things to comply with whatever the narrative is.
02:02:19.000 It's real weird, man.
02:02:21.000 And so when you're interviewing people and ask them about UFOs or ask them about Bigfoot, just the camera and the fact that you're filming alone, it changes the reality of whatever their story would or wouldn't be.
02:02:33.000 It changes.
02:02:34.000 It gets adjusted.
02:02:35.000 It becomes a giant factor in whatever the story is, the fact that there's a camera on them.
02:02:43.000 Well, I believe on the other side of things, after doing Call Me Lucky, I learned a lot about, and you probably know this obviously already, most people want to tell you their story.
02:02:57.000 And most people, do you know what I mean?
02:02:59.000 You don't even have to do too much...
02:03:02.000 You don't have to make someone uncomfortable.
02:03:03.000 You don't have to even be probing too much.
02:03:06.000 Most people do want to be heard.
02:03:07.000 Most people will tell you really personal things.
02:03:10.000 I'm not talking about Barry, but I'm talking about the other folks that supported the movie.
02:03:13.000 Right.
02:03:15.000 And I learned when I was doing that doc that the key was that I had to shut up and I had to listen, which as a nightclub comedian was really hard.
02:03:24.000 Yeah.
02:03:29.000 How about that?
02:03:30.000 I gotta wrap up.
02:03:31.000 I was up one morning.
02:03:32.000 But let me just bring up this topic.
02:03:34.000 You're on the road a lot.
02:03:35.000 Yeah.
02:03:36.000 When guys come in, and women, they come in the green room, and you're in their club, you're in their hometown, and there's a whole bunch of local guys, and they're nice and stuff.
02:03:44.000 But when they start talking about stand-up, does it bore you to tears, or are you engaged in it?
02:03:54.000 It really depends.
02:03:56.000 Who's coming in the green room?
02:03:57.000 Other comics?
02:03:58.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:03:59.000 They want to come up and they want to start talking to me about comedy and talking smack about other comics.
02:04:04.000 And I'm like, if you have any idea how much I'm checked out right now.
02:04:09.000 Well, for me, the real problem is green rooms before a show, I'm trying to get my head together.
02:04:14.000 I'm not really into talking to anybody.
02:04:16.000 I'm into going over my notes and I want to do a good show.
02:04:20.000 So if someone comes in and they get in the way, that's my prep time.
02:04:24.000 Well, you actually say, hey man, step out.
02:04:26.000 I don't usually have very many people come to visit me.
02:04:29.000 Really?
02:04:29.000 I'm always hosting this thing.
02:04:30.000 I don't know what it is.
02:04:32.000 And I'm always just like, I will talk about anything other than that.
02:04:37.000 And I shouldn't admit this publicly, but when people come up to me and they bring up Police Academy, I swear to God, often...
02:04:50.000 Often I'm thinking of committing harikari while they're talking to me. 0.99
02:04:54.000 And I'm not even kidding you.
02:04:55.000 I say, oh, that's great.
02:04:56.000 How old were you when you saw it?
02:04:58.000 And I'm just thinking that I'm...
02:04:59.000 And I'm pulling my entrails out under their shoes.
02:05:03.000 That's the thought that carries you through the conversation?
02:05:06.000 Yeah, it makes me laugh.
02:05:06.000 I'm thinking, yeah.
02:05:07.000 I'm thinking, oh, that's great.
02:05:09.000 I'm glad you...
02:05:10.000 Oh, I'm glad you liked it.
02:05:12.000 I'm just thinking that I'm pulling my small intestine all over their feet.
02:05:16.000 Yeah, you just gotta eat it.
02:05:17.000 Well, we all do.
02:05:18.000 We all have that.
02:05:19.000 Yeah, me, it's Fear Factor.
02:05:20.000 Fear Factor.
02:05:21.000 People start talking to me about Fear Factor.
02:05:22.000 And you're polite?
02:05:23.000 Yeah.
02:05:24.000 Oh, cool, man.
02:05:24.000 Thanks.
02:05:25.000 I'm glad you like the show.
02:05:26.000 But then after a while, you're like...
02:05:27.000 Yeah, a lot of people, it's like when they were kids.
02:05:29.000 They were like in high school and they were a fear factor.
02:05:31.000 For me, they told me how tall they were.
02:05:33.000 I was this big. 0.99
02:05:34.000 Why would I give a fuck about how tall you were when you watch Police Academy? 0.99
02:05:39.000 Why? 0.99
02:05:40.000 What?
02:05:41.000 Do you like talking to comics peers about stand-up?
02:05:45.000 Like if you run into someone who's like...
02:05:47.000 No, I just find it...
02:05:49.000 You still like talking about it? 1.00
02:05:49.000 Yeah, it's like talking about fucking. 1.00
02:05:52.000 You don't like talking about the creative process or writing or roadblocks or motivation or anything like that? 0.99
02:06:00.000 No.
02:06:00.000 You still like talking about it?
02:06:01.000 It's just...
02:06:04.000 It's this thing, and I don't feel like gossiping about it.
02:06:09.000 I like telling stories.
02:06:10.000 I love hearing funny stories back and forth.
02:06:13.000 That's great.
02:06:14.000 A lot of laughs.
02:06:15.000 But dissecting comedy for some reason is so uninteresting to me.
02:06:22.000 Well, you know, it's understandable.
02:06:24.000 I mean, would you start in like 81 or something like that?
02:06:26.000 Yeah, I mean, I started when I was 15 and 16. I got on Letterman when I was 20. How old was...
02:06:31.000 I mean, what year was that?
02:06:33.000 It was probably like 82. Yeah, think about that, man.
02:06:36.000 That is a long fucking time. 0.99
02:06:38.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:06:38.000 You know? 0.99
02:06:39.000 I mean, it only makes sense that you would be bored with it.
02:06:41.000 Yeah.
02:06:42.000 But you still enjoy doing it.
02:06:43.000 I do.
02:06:44.000 See, so...
02:06:45.000 But I started to like it when I jettisoned the persona.
02:06:49.000 I even remember that.
02:06:50.000 Like, I thought I hated...
02:06:51.000 I thought I hated the Wacky Morning Shows and, you know, Taint and Teabag in the Morning, and I thought I hated, you know...
02:07:00.000 All that stuff and the clubs and this and that.
02:07:03.000 And I was just like, oh, I hate this character.
02:07:05.000 I remember the day it happened.
02:07:07.000 It was like an epiphany.
02:07:08.000 I was at Zaney's in Nashville.
02:07:10.000 Love that place.
02:07:11.000 And I was like, and I knew that I couldn't do it.
02:07:14.000 I had to go on as me.
02:07:16.000 And I made that decision.
02:07:17.000 And so you went on stage.
02:07:19.000 And people were yelling, you know, do the voice.
02:07:21.000 Oh, really?
02:07:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:07:22.000 Wow.
02:07:23.000 And it changed.
02:07:25.000 Everything shifted after that.
02:07:26.000 What year was this?
02:07:29.000 Probably like 10 years ago.
02:07:31.000 Maybe longer.
02:07:33.000 Yeah, I would say it's probably around 10 years ago.
02:07:37.000 And it changed for me.
02:07:39.000 And then I liked it again.
02:07:41.000 That's cool.
02:07:42.000 Well, there's some guys that just get trapped in a persona.
02:07:44.000 We were just talking about Emo Phillips the other night.
02:07:46.000 Because Emo Phillips is apparently back to his persona. 1.00
02:07:49.000 He let it go for a long time, and he just started just being a guy on stage talking about shit. 0.99
02:07:54.000 Apparently, people weren't into that. 0.99
02:07:57.000 And so he's like, alright, give the people what they want.
02:07:59.000 That's the story I tell about.
02:08:00.000 By the way, I should just clarify.
02:08:02.000 This is what I've heard.
02:08:03.000 I haven't seen him.
02:08:04.000 But this is like...
02:08:06.000 You know, Robin was, Williams was my best pal, and he got me a job on a Snickers commercial.
02:08:14.000 And I needed bread.
02:08:15.000 And he was so nice.
02:08:17.000 He's like, oh, you know, so I want you to use my friend Bobcat.
02:08:20.000 He's got to be in it.
02:08:21.000 You know, and they're like, you know, he actually...
02:08:25.000 Put their feet on the fire and they had to hire me.
02:08:28.000 And then he goes, he's like, don't take the first money.
02:08:30.000 Just wait, you know.
02:08:32.000 Tell them no.
02:08:33.000 So I tell them no.
02:08:34.000 And then they came back with more money, you know.
02:08:37.000 I mean, he was great, right?
02:08:38.000 Right.
02:08:39.000 So then he calls me up and he goes, you know, they're going to want you to do The Voice.
02:08:42.000 Are you okay doing The Voice? 1.00
02:08:43.000 And I go, for the amount of money Snickers is paying, I will fuck a Snickers behind camera. 1.00
02:08:50.000 By the way, I should say it's a really good candy bar. 1.00
02:08:52.000 No.
02:08:55.000 It's my all-time favorite.
02:08:57.000 Yeah.
02:08:57.000 You know, I said I was going to go, but there's something I will address a little bit and talk about.
02:09:02.000 You know, Robin had his coronary report came out and he had Lewy body dementia.
02:09:07.000 And that is a form of dementia that is very rarely ever discovered when someone's alive.
02:09:15.000 It's usually discovered in their autopsy.
02:09:20.000 He had this form of dementia.
02:09:22.000 I witnessed it.
02:09:23.000 It was misdiagnosed as Parkinson's.
02:09:28.000 And I witnessed this.
02:09:31.000 I witnessed his processing reality completely different than the way everybody else does.
02:09:37.000 What causes it?
02:09:40.000 I'm not sure if it's a gene or what, but sadly his brain was riddled with this.
02:09:46.000 And so when I think about that, I think about how strong he was You know, you would have, like, some days...
02:09:54.000 You'd have a lot of days where he was doing kind of OCD stuff and processing things incorrectly, but then you'd have a day where he was back.
02:10:03.000 So you'd go, oh, well, maybe it's...
02:10:06.000 Just had a bad day?
02:10:07.000 Or, no, maybe it's the Parkinson's drugs and they've got to get those dialed in.
02:10:11.000 You know, he was going to doctors, he was in therapy, he was doing...
02:10:14.000 And the only reason I talk about that is his brain was giving him misinformation.
02:10:20.000 Complete misinformation.
02:10:23.000 And people die from depression and my heart goes out to them, but that's not what killed him.
02:10:32.000 He really was getting misinformation from his own brain and was suffering from this disease.
02:10:39.000 So, I just put that out there because folks know that we're friends and they'll ask me about it and I would like a spotlight put on the disease that actually, in my mind, was what was responsible for his demise.
02:10:56.000 Because, you know, a lot of people say, did you ever talk about suicide?
02:11:00.000 I go, what comics?
02:11:01.000 We talked about suicide for 33 years. 0.99
02:11:04.000 Sometimes we talk about other shit, you know? 0.99
02:11:07.000 Hey, congratulations on the Oscar. 0.99
02:11:09.000 Oh, thank you.
02:11:09.000 How would you do it?
02:11:10.000 I don't know.
02:11:10.000 I think a car.
02:11:11.000 I think a car.
02:11:13.000 But I just say that because he fought.
02:11:15.000 That's what we do.
02:11:16.000 I don't know about you, but a comic, that's what we do.
02:11:19.000 We fight depression.
02:11:20.000 Things don't add up.
02:11:22.000 This world doesn't seem right, and we go out and we spew about it, and I feel better. 0.98
02:11:27.000 On a selfish level, I don't really give a rat's ass on the ground. 0.98
02:11:31.000 You know, I vent and I feel better. 0.99
02:11:34.000 And he fought it.
02:11:37.000 And that wasn't...
02:11:38.000 It wasn't depression.
02:11:40.000 It wasn't career.
02:11:40.000 It wasn't...
02:11:41.000 You know, he'd been sober most of his adult life.
02:11:44.000 You know, so...
02:11:45.000 It's very disturbing to me that a lot of people were trying to attribute all sorts of reasons for why he did it.
02:11:50.000 And even there was a lot of, like, men's rights groups that were attributing it to his divorce settlements.
02:11:58.000 Oh, brother.
02:11:58.000 Yeah, there was a whole thing where this guy was doing this video and I even talked to him about it.
02:12:07.000 He had a disease that caused dementia that I witnessed.
02:12:16.000 I didn't have anybody I talked to more.
02:12:18.000 You know, I talked to him in text and every day.
02:12:23.000 I didn't have a buddy that I talked to more.
02:12:25.000 So, trust me, it wasn't a divorce.
02:12:31.000 Right.
02:12:31.000 It wasn't his family.
02:12:33.000 We have the same agent.
02:12:35.000 So, like, when this guy was saying, one of the reasons why it pissed me off, because this guy was saying that, you know, he's in financial ruins.
02:12:41.000 I'm like, no, he wasn't.
02:12:42.000 No.
02:12:42.000 He was wealthy.
02:12:43.000 Yeah.
02:12:44.000 And also, it's...
02:12:46.000 Yeah, I mean, no one wants to...
02:12:49.000 Because as human beings, we're trying to make sense of why that happened.
02:12:56.000 And why that happened, in my opinion, which is right...
02:13:03.000 Well, who would know more than you?
02:13:04.000 His brain was getting misinformation and he was processing reality completely wrong.
02:13:11.000 I mean, I won't go into details, but I did witness him thinking things that weren't real were happening.
02:13:21.000 And to me, in the middle of the night...
02:13:23.000 And that's the other thing.
02:13:23.000 People say, oh, he wasn't in the same bedroom as his wife.
02:13:26.000 It's like, yeah, because he was having seizures and he didn't like to wake her up.
02:13:29.000 Oh, God.
02:13:30.000 It's not a question of somebody not getting along.
02:13:33.000 I didn't mean to get so personal.
02:13:35.000 No, no.
02:13:35.000 And I don't mean to talk about his home life because, you know, Susan's a wonderful gal and it's just sad, you know?
02:13:48.000 Yeah.
02:13:49.000 No, it's awful.
02:13:51.000 One of the scariest things is talking to someone who's, whether it's a loved one, a father, mother, that's losing their grip.
02:13:59.000 And I think people were, they were courteous to a point, but I don't think they take his kids into consideration and friends and people who worked with him for all these years.
02:14:12.000 And I guess I can't expect them to, you know?
02:14:14.000 I mean, I'm sure I've taken shots at people when they pass away, but it's just, it's like people would come up and they go, did you hear what...
02:14:22.000 Did you hear what Rush Limbaugh said?
02:14:23.000 And I'd be like, I don't care what Rush Limbaugh says.
02:14:26.000 I'm dealing with people who dealt with him on a daily basis.
02:14:30.000 Let me ask you this.
02:14:31.000 What is this impulse that people have to denigrate people right after they die?
02:14:37.000 It's almost like everyone else is...
02:14:40.000 Everyone else is talking about them like I saw a lot of that with Prince when it was revealed that Prince was suffering through Opiate addiction.
02:14:49.000 Yeah, and I was like there was like even Gene Simmons said some crazy shit and he had to apologize and I'd seen some other people say it too But what it's almost like it's a crunch a contrarian thing like everyone else is saying oh my god We lost this genius.
02:15:04.000 Well you get heat from it. 0.93
02:15:05.000 Mm-hmm, and I'm sure in Gene Simmons is I'm sure there's a jealousy thing. 1.00
02:15:11.000 Look, I used to say outrageous things about people, and this bomb would go off, and I would get some heat, and I would get some buzz.
02:15:19.000 Right.
02:15:20.000 And I stopped doing that.
02:15:21.000 I made a decision, realizing that these weren't just harmless things I was saying.
02:15:27.000 Right, right, right.
02:15:29.000 I think, you know, it was...
02:15:34.000 Yeah.
02:15:35.000 Because there's a lot of that when Kurt Cobain died too, right?
02:15:37.000 Yeah.
02:15:37.000 But, you know, and that's the...
02:15:39.000 I wasn't besties with Kurt, but I did know him.
02:15:43.000 I toured with Nirvana.
02:15:45.000 Yeah.
02:15:45.000 Kurt liked my stand-up and asked me to go on the road with him.
02:15:49.000 I did a bunch of dates.
02:15:50.000 Yeah, we talked about it.
02:15:51.000 But I mean, it wasn't like the situation with Robin, but I did have times in my life where I... Spent hours with Kurt with no one else sitting around talking and laughing, you know.
02:16:05.000 I don't know why we want to do that.
02:16:07.000 I think...
02:16:10.000 We try to make sense of it.
02:16:11.000 I think we try to make sense of it.
02:16:13.000 I think that's where a lot of conspiracies come from.
02:16:16.000 I think when someone who's in our mind reached the American dream and then they die or take their life or overdose.
02:16:27.000 We have to say, well, they had it all, and that's what we believe is the ultimate fulfillment and happiness.
02:16:33.000 You know, America is a people's republic, a spring break.
02:16:37.000 No one's pursuing fulfillment.
02:16:39.000 Everyone's pursuing happiness.
02:16:41.000 You know, there's two different things.
02:16:43.000 I'm really fulfilled.
02:16:44.000 Am I happy?
02:16:45.000 Am I laughing all day?
02:16:46.000 Am I? No.
02:16:47.000 But you're happy sometimes.
02:16:48.000 I'm happy a lot of the time.
02:16:50.000 I've never been happier.
02:16:51.000 If I didn't know that you're this nuanced guy that's very thoughtful and you have a lot of opinions and you're always considering all sorts of...
02:16:59.000 If I just took...
02:17:00.000 If I tried to form a view of you based on you and I talking, we're always laughing.
02:17:07.000 Yeah.
02:17:07.000 I would say, Bobcat's so jolly.
02:17:09.000 Every time I talk to him, it's like laughs and hugs and...
02:17:12.000 But it is true, and it's...
02:17:15.000 Because we never see each other before noon, first of all.
02:17:21.000 It's a daily reprieve.
02:17:24.000 It's a daily decision.
02:17:26.000 You know, I get up, the squirrels are up before I do, and I beat them down, and then it turns.
02:17:33.000 And when I'm directing on a set, I'm like, I can react in fear, or I can just sit here for a second or two, and it always usually works out.
02:17:41.000 Very rarely do I have to say, no, man.
02:17:44.000 You just sit there.
02:17:46.000 I think so much of show business is based on fear and people thinking someone's going to say, you screwed up or you didn't do it right or you didn't get extra takes and all that stuff.
02:17:55.000 But man, my job is really not to freak out.
02:18:00.000 I'm really happy right now.
02:18:02.000 Well, that's beautiful, man.
02:18:04.000 I think you're doing some awesome work.
02:18:05.000 I really do.
02:18:06.000 I often tell people to quit, you know, because that's, again, that's very un-American. 1.00
02:18:12.000 Never quit, never give up.
02:18:13.000 It's like quit, quit, quit, quit, and then until you end up someplace where you don't want to leave.
02:18:18.000 Right.
02:18:19.000 And that's what I've done.
02:18:20.000 Quit everything that doesn't feel right.
02:18:22.000 That doesn't, you know, when I made the decision not to go on auditions, it was scary, and it became the best thing that ever happened to me.
02:18:29.000 All of a sudden I'm freed up and I'm writing screenplays and I'm doing, you know... 0.95
02:18:33.000 It's like, why am I trying to get on, you know, Who's Your Daddy or whatever the fuck, you know what I mean? 0.99
02:18:38.000 Or A Bird in the Hand or whatever the fuck. 0.99
02:18:40.000 You know, what am I doing? 0.99
02:18:41.000 What am I doing?
02:18:42.000 Right.
02:18:43.000 You know?
02:18:44.000 Yeah.
02:18:45.000 But you find your voice, you know?
02:18:47.000 I mean, it's interesting now to see the stuff you're doing.
02:18:50.000 And the funny thing to me is, like, someone in an interview said...
02:18:53.000 Because I make them about a movie every year, every year and a half, and they're like, so what is the, you know, what is, who are you competing with?
02:19:02.000 What other filmmaker are you competing with? 0.87
02:19:04.000 I'm like, I'm competing with the Grim fucking Reaper. 0.92
02:19:06.000 I just figured this out like 10 years ago, what I want to do. 0.97
02:19:11.000 You know, that's what motivates me.
02:19:13.000 How old are you now?
02:19:14.000 I'm 53. I'll be 54 soon.
02:19:16.000 And so like when you run around, you hit 40, you're like, yay, this fucking thing's ticking. 1.00
02:19:21.000 Oh, man. 0.94
02:19:22.000 You know, and I write a lot, and I write screenplays that'll never get made, but I just write them to get them out of me, you know?
02:19:30.000 Well, listen, man, that's what it's about, really. 0.97
02:19:33.000 It's about whatever it is that you're compelled to do, that you can do, that you're talented at, and then pursuing that, and just fuck all the rest of it, you know? 0.99
02:19:42.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:19:42.000 I see it in you. 0.99
02:19:43.000 And people hear us say this, and they think that, well, it's easy for you guys.
02:19:46.000 You had this other career and all this stuff.
02:19:48.000 It's like, nah, not really.
02:19:50.000 I mean, I come with baggage.
02:19:51.000 Do you think the first movie I sent to Sundance, people didn't go...
02:19:55.000 You know what I mean?
02:19:56.000 Right.
02:19:56.000 Hey, Zed from Police Academy made a movie.
02:19:59.000 Let's watch this.
02:20:00.000 You know what I mean?
02:20:01.000 So, sure, we have a lot of foot...
02:20:04.000 You know, we have a lot of...
02:20:05.000 Things are easier on some ways, but then there's baggage.
02:20:09.000 Yeah.
02:20:09.000 Yeah.
02:20:09.000 Well, there's just, I guess that's with anybody that's been in the public eye for a long period of time, especially, again, a guy like you, that's a nuanced guy.
02:20:18.000 There's a lot going on. 0.94
02:20:20.000 There's happy stuff, and there's anger, and there's silly shit, and there's mockery, and then there's really important points that you want to make. 0.96
02:20:28.000 And then there's mistakes. 0.97
02:20:30.000 And there's impulses.
02:20:31.000 And we've all had those.
02:20:33.000 But that's the best part.
02:20:35.000 I don't know.
02:20:36.000 If I was on a set and I felt people weren't having an enjoyable time, not that it needs to be a party, but if people felt compromised, it would really bother me.
02:20:48.000 Oh, for sure.
02:20:49.000 Like if you were having an actor do a part that they just really didn't believe in and thought the piece was bad.
02:20:54.000 And if the process got, it was unpleasant, you know?
02:20:57.000 I mean, my sets are usually pretty ridiculous, you know?
02:21:01.000 I'm the one that's probably internalizing, but it's very, you know, I can't explain it.
02:21:05.000 Like when I was on Kimmel, you know?
02:21:08.000 I remember once I spent $8,000 and I bought...
02:21:14.000 10 tons of snow and put it in the parking lot for Christmas.
02:21:19.000 And Jimmy looks out the window and goes, what is that?
02:21:22.000 What is that?
02:21:22.000 Does Disney have a...
02:21:23.000 I go, no, I bought snow for everybody.
02:21:26.000 It's like you go out playing snow.
02:21:27.000 Oh my god, we went sledding, we made ramps, we had the hugest snowball fight.
02:21:33.000 You know, life's short.
02:21:34.000 I remember once everybody wanted to kill each other, so I rented one of those giant balloon bounces.
02:21:41.000 Everybody just bounced around and there was no pressure on the set anymore.
02:21:47.000 Did you like doing that show or was it just too monotonous?
02:21:52.000 I really liked it a lot.
02:21:54.000 I actually loved it.
02:21:56.000 And then when I started to realize I was...
02:22:03.000 Honestly, I'll be really honest right now.
02:22:04.000 When I started to feel like I was starting to phone it in, I was like going, this is not fair to my friend.
02:22:10.000 Right.
02:22:11.000 Who I love.
02:22:11.000 You know, I love Kimmel.
02:22:15.000 We did a lot of directing, right?
02:22:16.000 Well, I ran into you in New York when you were doing the Chappelle show.
02:22:19.000 Worked on Chappelle.
02:22:21.000 The very first episode.
02:22:22.000 Well, I worked at the beginning.
02:22:25.000 Dave Chappelle's not crazy.
02:22:27.000 That's the other thing that drives me nuts.
02:22:28.000 You know, because he walked away, but I saw those people micromanage him and drive him nuts.
02:22:33.000 They were so rude.
02:22:34.000 No, Dave's not crazy.
02:22:35.000 He's a friend of mine.
02:22:36.000 I love Dave.
02:22:37.000 He's a very, very brilliant guy.
02:22:38.000 Yeah.
02:22:39.000 Very smart and aware and has the cojones to do what you said, to quit, to walk away from 50 million bucks.
02:22:46.000 I'm uncomfortable saying this story, but I don't know.
02:22:49.000 I know the semantics of the language.
02:22:54.000 I'll just say what happened.
02:22:56.000 People can make whatever.
02:22:57.000 I was directing that show and white commie central executives came down and asked me. 0.93
02:23:03.000 They said, can you tell Dave not to say nigger so much? 0.72
02:23:08.000 And I said, Dave, the white commie central executive's in front of him. 0.98
02:23:12.000 I would like you not to say nigger so much. 0.98
02:23:16.000 And Dave goes, Bobcat, pshaw! 0.97
02:23:19.000 What did you say?
02:23:21.000 It was really weird and awkward, and then they left.
02:23:26.000 Like, I intentionally thought, well, this will be embarrassing for them.
02:23:28.000 This is exactly what you told me.
02:23:30.000 Oh, good.
02:23:30.000 Because, yeah, I don't think I've ever come forward with that story.
02:23:33.000 But, yeah, I'm witness to that insanity.
02:23:37.000 Well, as the show became more and more successful, apparently what had happened was advertisers were skittish about being involved, even though...
02:23:44.000 Even though it was gangbusters ratings.
02:23:46.000 They still were like, he keeps saying the N-word, and Toyota doesn't really want to be involved with the N-word, we don't know what to do.
02:23:55.000 And so, you know, they took...
02:23:58.000 In my opinion, the greatest sketch comedy show of all time.
02:24:02.000 I don't think there's anything that comes close.
02:24:04.000 I think it was two years.
02:24:05.000 It's one of my greatest accomplishments as an actor, because I don't really like much of what I did except for news radio, but one of the greatest accomplishments, me, is like, I feel like I was on the greatest show of all time.
02:24:15.000 I did a couple sketches on the greatest show of all time.
02:24:17.000 I really think that show was the all-time most innovative and hilarious sketch comedy show ever. 0.95
02:24:23.000 From the haters' ball, like the haters' convention, To the black, blind, white supremacist. 0.72
02:24:33.000 I mean, you could go down the list. 0.98
02:24:36.000 Rick James.
02:24:37.000 Racial Draft.
02:24:37.000 Racial Draft.
02:24:38.000 I mean, he had so many killer, killer, killer bits.
02:24:42.000 They were so original.
02:24:44.000 He's brilliant.
02:24:45.000 Well, that's one of the most offensive things about what's going on now.
02:24:48.000 There's so much rehashed and regenerated.
02:24:52.000 Did it just take a script... 0.99
02:24:55.000 Take a sketch from MADtv and they sort of rework it and spit it out today on some new show and it's fucking gross. 0.98
02:25:02.000 I mean, that's what you're seeing. 0.94
02:25:03.000 I mean, what Amy Schumer is getting accused of, you know, what you're seeing over and over again.
02:25:07.000 And they keep showing these sketches.
02:25:09.000 Well, here was a sketch that was on MADtv.
02:25:10.000 Here was a sketch that was on this.
02:25:12.000 Here was a sketch that...
02:25:12.000 You never saw that with Chappelle.
02:25:14.000 With Chappelle, all those sketches were unique and unusual.
02:25:18.000 Yeah, and it was also kind of, the funny thing was also in the editing process, following the ball, like we would discover stuff that was just funny in the,
02:25:34.000 I can't explain it.
02:25:36.000 It's like we're cutting this Mitsubishi commercial, and the woman, her breast came out during the filming and not per the script.
02:25:46.000 Yeah.
02:25:47.000 I go, Dave, did you see that?
02:25:49.000 And you just see Dave's eyes go right down.
02:25:51.000 So he busted himself.
02:25:54.000 He actually, during the wraparound, showed what he'd done.
02:25:57.000 That's hilarious.
02:25:58.000 And it was beautiful.
02:25:58.000 It was beautiful because he was busting himself.
02:26:00.000 Yeah, it was really weird for him to be...
02:26:04.000 It just drives me nuts when people act like he's crazy.
02:26:07.000 Oh, yeah.
02:26:07.000 Because I think he's super sane and brilliant and really nice.
02:26:11.000 Well, whenever a black guy goes to Africa, you go, oh, he's fucking lost it. 0.99
02:26:16.000 Right, right. 1.00
02:26:16.000 What is he doing? 1.00
02:26:17.000 He went to Africa to try to find peace?
02:26:19.000 Jesus Christ.
02:26:20.000 They offered him 50 million bucks and he went to Africa.
02:26:23.000 He lost his mind. 1.00
02:26:24.000 He lost his fucking mind. 1.00
02:26:25.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:26:25.000 That's the thing that... 1.00
02:26:29.000 Again, what I was saying, you know, fulfillment versus, you know, this idea of just having a 24-hour orgasm, you know.
02:26:38.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:26:38.000 It's ridiculous. 0.99
02:26:40.000 We don't pursue being fulfilled, which is the whole jam.
02:26:45.000 Right.
02:26:46.000 Well, it's a tricky little dance because...
02:26:48.000 Because we have to pay bills and we have to raise our kids and we have to be responsible.
02:26:53.000 But you know this, every time you take that leap, every time you go, well, this is really scary, every time it pays off.
02:27:00.000 Yeah.
02:27:01.000 I've never taken the leap.
02:27:03.000 I've taken leaps where I did what I thought people wanted or I thought might work or might be successful.
02:27:08.000 That always works terribly.
02:27:09.000 But I've just said, I've got to tell this story because this is the story that I'm interested in right now.
02:27:14.000 Right.
02:27:15.000 That's always paid off.
02:27:16.000 Absolutely.
02:27:16.000 How's it paid off?
02:27:17.000 Am I rich?
02:27:18.000 Am I this and that?
02:27:18.000 No, but you know.
02:27:19.000 Fulfilled.
02:27:20.000 I sit there and I connect with a small group of people and that's pretty amazing.
02:27:25.000 Beautiful.
02:27:26.000 That's it.
02:27:26.000 The end.
02:27:27.000 Good night, everybody.
02:27:28.000 Bobcat Colwood, ladies and gentlemen.
02:27:29.000 Give it up.
02:27:30.000 Give it up.
02:27:33.000 Thanks, brother.
02:27:34.000 Thank you, man.
02:27:34.000 It was a lot of fun, man.
02:27:35.000 I'm glad we did it.
02:27:36.000 That was great.
02:27:36.000 And we ended with the headphones on.
02:27:38.000 Notice that?
02:27:38.000 We didn't even notice.
02:27:39.000 How did that happen?
02:27:40.000 We didn't even notice we had it.
02:27:41.000 We kept them on.
02:27:44.000 Oh, uh, is this thing still recording?
02:27:46.000 Gary Johnson, tomorrow, presidential candidate.
02:27:48.000 Gary Johnson, 9am.
02:27:49.000 See ya, Fox.