The Joe Rogan Experience - June 29, 2016


Joe Rogan Experience #816 - Joe Schilling

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Joe Rogan Experience #815 - Cameron Hanes Joe Rogan Experience #817 - Jason Hairston & Brendan Burns

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On this episode of Fresh Out Of The Sheets, the boys are joined by Joe Rogan to talk about his recent fight with Conor McGregor. They also talk about the aftermath of the fight and what it was like to be in the middle of it all. Also, the guys discuss what it's like being the face of Bellator MMA and how he handled the pressure of being the new face of the organization. And of course, they talk about some of the crazy things they've been up to in the past week and talk about what they're looking forward to for the future of the MMA and UFC in general. They also discuss some of their favorite moments from this past weekend and what they would like to see in the future. We hope you enjoy, sit down, and have a nice rest of the week. Peace, Love, Blessings, Cheers. -The Guys in the Basement -Jon Bones Jones and the Crew Subscribe, Like, Share, and Subscribe to our new podcast, Fresh From The Basement, Fresh Out of the Sheets! Subscribe on iTunes, Podchaser, and subscribe to our YouTube channel Fresh Off The Ground! If you like what you hear, leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and subscribe on your favorite streaming platform, Subscribe and share the podcast! We'll be listening to your favorite podchords, and we'll be looking out for your comments and thoughts and thoughts on what you're listening to us on the next week! Thank you! Cheers, Jon Bones and the crew! Jon Bones & the Crew! - The Crew at the Basemans Podcast . Jon & The Crew. Jon and The Crews Joe Schilling <3 Jon and the Boys at The Basemarski , The Crew, Jake, AKA & the crew at and The Conspirators at The Bully Crew at , and much more! , Jon and Jake at the Bully's House ( ) Thank You, Jon & Jake, Jake at The Crew @ The Baseman JRE & The Consideration Podcast, & @ Thanks, Jon and Joe & The Boys at the Grounding Crew at The Grounding House. , & , the Crews at . . & Much More!

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00:00:02.000 Boom! 0.99
00:00:02.000 We're live. 0.99
00:00:03.000 Fresh from the trenches. 1.00
00:00:05.000 Joe Schilling in the motherfucking house. 0.99
00:00:08.000 What's up, Joe? 0.99
00:00:09.000 How are you, brother?
00:00:09.000 I'm doing pretty well.
00:00:10.000 Are you chatting with people?
00:00:11.000 You doing that Snapchat?
00:00:12.000 Yeah, I had to Snapchat you to the world.
00:00:14.000 These wacky kids and their Snapchat.
00:00:16.000 I tried Snapchat the other day because my little daughter loves it. 1.00
00:00:20.000 Goddamn, dude. 0.99
00:00:21.000 All my names are taken. 0.99
00:00:22.000 My name's taken.
00:00:24.000 Powerful JRE's taken.
00:00:25.000 Joe Rogan Experience is taken.
00:00:27.000 Everything. 1.00
00:00:27.000 These fucking creeps. 1.00
00:00:28.000 That's so weird. 1.00
00:00:29.000 Give it up, you freaks.
00:00:30.000 Give me my name back. 0.99
00:00:31.000 Weirdos.
00:00:32.000 Yeah.
00:00:33.000 Well, what are you going to do?
00:00:34.000 I was late to the game.
00:00:36.000 What is the big deal with Snapchat?
00:00:38.000 Why is everybody like that?
00:00:39.000 I don't know.
00:00:41.000 It's really blown up lately.
00:00:43.000 When it first came out years ago, it was like...
00:00:45.000 It had a little different connotation to it.
00:00:47.000 It was like, you know, the picture is deleted in like five seconds.
00:00:50.000 It was like your sexting app.
00:00:52.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:00:52.000 Fucking dick pics and shit. 1.00
00:00:53.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:00:54.000 But nobody deletes those.
00:00:56.000 They just make a screenshot.
00:00:57.000 Yeah, they'll tell you, hey, she screenshotted your stuff there.
00:01:00.000 And you're like, no!
00:01:01.000 That's that horrible feeling in the bottom of your gut.
00:01:03.000 No!
00:01:05.000 I don't know. 0.99
00:01:05.000 You have problems if you're sitting dick pics anyway. 0.99
00:01:07.000 Okay. 1.00
00:01:08.000 Unless the girl wants dick pics, and then you gotta send them. 1.00
00:01:13.000 I guess. 1.00
00:01:14.000 Yeah.
00:01:15.000 If you talk to people that are in the dick pic game, they'll tell you, you gotta send pictures to get pictures.
00:01:22.000 Because girls feel vulnerable. 1.00
00:01:24.000 If they're just sending you pictures of their pussy, and you're not sending anything back, they feel like, this motherfucker has me here. 1.00
00:01:30.000 This is bullshit. 1.00
00:01:31.000 There's no trust in this relationship. 1.00
00:01:33.000 Even if they don't want them, They just want a picture.
00:01:36.000 You know?
00:01:37.000 Sometimes you gotta be vulnerable for these girls. 0.91
00:01:39.000 Allegedly.
00:01:41.000 What am I, an expert? 0.99
00:01:42.000 This is where we're starting to put out a podcast with dick pics. 0.99
00:01:45.000 Well, there's no rhyme or reason to any of these damn things. 0.99
00:01:48.000 You know? 0.98
00:01:50.000 So, like I said... 0.99
00:01:51.000 Apparently Joe Rogan's dick pic game is very strong. 0.99
00:01:54.000 It's shaky. 0.99
00:01:56.000 It's all over the road. 0.99
00:01:59.000 But my fucking phone, I give my phone to my six-year-old. 0.99
00:02:02.000 It's filled with Snapchat pictures of her face. 1.00
00:02:05.000 Switching in with Kimbo Slice's face.
00:02:07.000 All the pictures I have on my phone.
00:02:09.000 She goes through all my photos and finds pictures that she wants to swap faces with.
00:02:16.000 Kids.
00:02:17.000 These wacky kids these days.
00:02:21.000 So, like I said, man, fresh out of the trenches, man.
00:02:24.000 You had a crazy war.
00:02:26.000 Oh, yeah.
00:02:27.000 This weekend.
00:02:28.000 That was wild.
00:02:29.000 Yeah, man, that was...
00:02:32.000 That was something, wasn't it? 0.99
00:02:33.000 It was fucking something. 0.99
00:02:34.000 That was something. 1.00
00:02:34.000 That was for sure. 1.00
00:02:35.000 Like we were saying before the podcast started, you were really fighting emotional.
00:02:40.000 You were worked up, you know?
00:02:42.000 You'd already fought him before, and you wanted to get back at him, and it was kind of obvious in the way you were fighting.
00:02:48.000 You were really putting a lot of pressure on him.
00:02:51.000 Yeah, I didn't really feel that way at the time.
00:02:53.000 I wasn't aware of it, you know what I mean?
00:02:55.000 I was just in there doing me.
00:02:57.000 Yeah, it was a lot of pressure, a lot of...
00:03:01.000 Yeah, I wanted to knock him out.
00:03:03.000 I wanted to set things right.
00:03:05.000 I think being told and kind of carried as the face of Bellator kickboxing, there was a lot of pressure on my shoulders that night.
00:03:15.000 I wanted a big shot.
00:03:16.000 I wanted to make an exciting fight.
00:03:17.000 I think I did that.
00:03:18.000 You definitely did that. 0.99
00:03:19.000 You say kill or be killed. 0.99
00:03:22.000 And from Spike TV's perspective, I'm sure we killed it on the ratings.
00:03:25.000 My job was to carry the ratings because that's why it was the first fight from the main card.
00:03:31.000 Like I said, it was never a boring moment.
00:03:33.000 It wasn't boring. 0.99
00:03:35.000 It was fucking wild. 0.99
00:03:38.000 There's a weird fine line you have to cross sometimes between... 0.98
00:03:43.000 I should ask you, how do you make the distinction of whether or not you should fight smart or fight exciting? 0.96
00:03:51.000 Do you make that distinction or do you just go, can't stop crazy and fucking charge at it? 0.95
00:03:57.000 I mean, yeah. 0.95
00:03:59.000 I guess there was like a tournament.
00:04:01.000 There would be more pressure to fight a little smarter or whatever.
00:04:06.000 I take pride in the way that I fight.
00:04:08.000 I think that when you turn on a fight, you want to see a guy like me.
00:04:13.000 You know what I mean?
00:04:14.000 Guys that complain about people that make boring fights and score points.
00:04:19.000 Floyd Mayweather, you know what I mean?
00:04:20.000 I want to see somebody fight like me.
00:04:23.000 I want to see a warrior go out there and put it all on the line and go out on the shield.
00:04:27.000 Yeah, that's something that promoters always hope that a guy fights like that. 0.76
00:04:32.000 They always hope that a guy goes out there charging out, guns blazing.
00:04:37.000 You know, but most people don't.
00:04:40.000 Yeah, well, I mean, hindsight, it didn't work out that well this time.
00:04:44.000 But, you know, it has worked out in the past a lot more often than that.
00:04:48.000 You know, there's a lot of, you know, the internet. 0.99
00:04:50.000 Fucking internet these days right now. 0.99
00:04:52.000 It's so brutal. 1.00
00:04:53.000 You didn't get online after the fight, did you?
00:04:55.000 I tried to stay off for a while, but it's just...
00:04:57.000 It's hard to stay offline.
00:04:59.000 It's hard.
00:04:59.000 It's a little hard.
00:05:00.000 Is there anything I can get out of this?
00:05:03.000 Nope.
00:05:05.000 Well, you can get a lot of technique advice from Keyboard Warriors.
00:05:08.000 I'm sure they have some strategy advice for you.
00:05:12.000 Yeah.
00:05:14.000 Everybody's an expert.
00:05:16.000 Yeah, everybody's an expert.
00:05:18.000 But, you know, that's just the thing.
00:05:21.000 It's one of those things where people don't really earn their opinion or their right to express their opinion.
00:05:26.000 Everybody just has one now.
00:05:27.000 They have an avenue to express.
00:05:29.000 So you have to separate...
00:05:31.000 What is that expression?
00:05:31.000 The wheat from the chaff?
00:05:32.000 Is that what it is? 0.99
00:05:33.000 Never figured out what the fuck chaff is. 0.99
00:05:35.000 You know what that is? 0.99
00:05:36.000 I talked to Vinny the other day.
00:05:38.000 Shorman?
00:05:39.000 Yeah, Vinny Shorman.
00:05:40.000 And...
00:05:41.000 He made a really good point about it. 1.00
00:05:42.000 I was like, oh, these fucking guys online. 1.00
00:05:45.000 It's easy to say, like, ignore them. 1.00
00:05:47.000 It's easy to say, you know, they're some jerk-off kid in their parents' basement. 0.99
00:05:53.000 I'm not personally religious, but, you know, he used it as an example. 0.98
00:05:56.000 He's like, you know, Jesus Christ was, like, the greatest person ever, right?
00:05:59.000 Like, the greatest, you know... 0.99
00:06:00.000 Water into wine, healed the sick, gave wine, all that shit. 1.00
00:06:03.000 The people still killed him, you know? 1.00
00:06:05.000 It doesn't matter how good you are or what you do, there's always gonna be some fucking asshole who talks shit and does, you know what I mean? 1.00
00:06:10.000 And that was an interesting little perspective that seemed to work out for me. 1.00
00:06:13.000 Like, who cares what these people think? 0.99
00:06:14.000 It doesn't matter what you do, they're gonna fucking hate you. 0.98
00:06:16.000 If everyone was perfect, you wouldn't appreciate perfect people. 0.95
00:06:20.000 If everybody was awesome and really cool and easy to talk to and friendly, you wouldn't...
00:06:28.000 It's not going to happen.
00:06:29.000 It's too hard. 1.00
00:06:30.000 It's too hard to have your shit together. 0.99
00:06:31.000 And there's too many variables that have to happen in your childhood, I think. 0.99
00:06:35.000 You know, everything either has to go really good or really bad when you appreciate things that are really good.
00:06:40.000 So you gravitate towards that.
00:06:42.000 It's one or the other.
00:06:43.000 But it's just, human beings are just a project with no directions. 0.99
00:06:48.000 It's like we're a super complicated computer, and no one has a fucking guidebook. 0.86
00:06:54.000 No one knows exactly how to work it. 0.96
00:06:56.000 No one knows exactly what's the...
00:06:58.000 And everything's happening in real time.
00:07:00.000 And the words you say, especially when you say something online, you might just be in a crazy mood.
00:07:05.000 And you might just tweet at Jamie. 1.00
00:07:08.000 Hey, Jamie, how about you go fuck yourself, you fucking piece of shit. 1.00
00:07:11.000 For no reason. 1.00
00:07:12.000 You might just want to get a reaction out of him.
00:07:14.000 I will, after the show.
00:07:16.000 Please don't do that to Jamie, folks.
00:07:18.000 But, you know, people do stuff like that, and they don't even know why they're doing it. 0.93
00:07:22.000 They're doing it to get a reaction, or they're doing it because they're upset, and they're like, why is this fucking Joe Schilling guy on TV this piece of shit? 1.00
00:07:30.000 Fuck you. 1.00
00:07:31.000 I'll kick his ass. 1.00
00:07:32.000 Miserable people. 1.00
00:07:32.000 But if they met you, they'd be like, hey, man, big fan. 1.00
00:07:35.000 Oh, for sure.
00:07:37.000 For sure.
00:07:37.000 For sure.
00:07:38.000 Like how you fight.
00:07:39.000 Oh.
00:07:41.000 You're a real fighter.
00:07:42.000 Or I'll get like a message like, I was in a bad mood, I said something really bad about you a couple months ago online, I'm really sorry, can you unblock me now? 1.00
00:07:49.000 I'm like, no, you're a fucking asshole. 1.00
00:07:51.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:07:51.000 You're still a fucking asshole. 1.00
00:07:52.000 You live by the sword, die by the sword, kids. 1.00
00:07:54.000 That's it.
00:07:55.000 If you get blocked, you stay blocked.
00:07:57.000 Zero tolerance policy.
00:07:58.000 Zero tolerance. 1.00
00:07:59.000 You gotta be a real piece of shit to get blocked. 1.00
00:08:01.000 And even if you're a real piece of shit, one day you might snap out of it, but you're gonna have to change your Twitter name. 1.00
00:08:06.000 You're gonna have to start fresh. 1.00
00:08:07.000 Yeah.
00:08:08.000 It's a new you.
00:08:10.000 Think about it that way. 0.99
00:08:11.000 You're a new troll.
00:08:12.000 But I think, you know, if someone is upset at you because they don't like, you know, a painting that you did or they don't like a song that you made, that's one thing. 0.70
00:08:20.000 But a fight is so emotional and so personal and it's so, the consequences are so much different than any other endeavor. 1.00
00:08:29.000 Even if you lose a game, LeBron James, you fucking suck. 1.00
00:08:33.000 It's just a game. 1.00
00:08:34.000 The ball didn't go in the net. 0.99
00:08:35.000 Who gives a fuck? 0.98
00:08:36.000 You know, in a fight, it's the highest consequences possible. 0.99
00:08:41.000 There's no higher consequences other than war.
00:08:44.000 There's no higher consequences as far as, like, how it feels to lose or what it feels like. 0.99
00:08:49.000 To hear people talk shit about you, about your performance. 0.98
00:08:53.000 And that's one of the reasons why they do it. 0.99
00:08:55.000 Like, they know. 1.00
00:08:56.000 They know it sucks. 0.96
00:08:57.000 And they know it's not them. 0.99
00:08:58.000 I have a theory about that, man.
00:09:00.000 I think one of the reasons why people attack people, like, when something goes wrong in their life, like a Charlie Sheen thing or something like that, is that they know that that could happen to them, but it's not happening to them right now. 1.00
00:09:12.000 So they feel like, well, fuck him, man. 0.99
00:09:14.000 Go after him. 1.00
00:09:15.000 You know, they have this...
00:09:16.000 They understand that they would be equally vulnerable and they feel that little opening.
00:09:22.000 They just...
00:09:23.000 They can't help it. 1.00
00:09:24.000 It's like a fucking scab. 1.00
00:09:25.000 They want to pick at it. 1.00
00:09:28.000 That's interesting. 1.00
00:09:29.000 I just think they're just pieces of shit. 1.00
00:09:31.000 That too. 1.00
00:09:31.000 You're just a fucking piece of shit. 1.00
00:09:33.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:09:34.000 And they're just haters.
00:09:35.000 You've never done anything with your life.
00:09:37.000 You're not willing to take those risks. 0.93
00:09:39.000 And then when you see somebody else taking those risks and then it doesn't work out, they're like, I fucking told you so. 0.94
00:09:44.000 You know? 0.98
00:09:46.000 Sad people. 1.00
00:09:47.000 They're just sad, miserable people. 1.00
00:09:48.000 Definitely. 0.98
00:09:49.000 Yeah, that's definitely true. 0.99
00:09:52.000 Did you ever see that HBO, was it 24-7 with Floyd Mayweather, where he's eating a cheeseburger with his friend, and some guy, some fucking fat, doughy cunt is yelling at him how he's afraid to fight Manny Pacquiao? 0.98
00:10:08.000 Like, you're talking to arguably the best boxer that's ever lived. 0.99
00:10:13.000 Ever.
00:10:13.000 Pretty, pretty arguable.
00:10:15.000 Yeah, pretty, pretty, pretty good argument. 0.99
00:10:16.000 49-0, but really he's only been rocked maybe twice in his whole fucking career. 0.99
00:10:22.000 You might think his style's boring, but the fucking guy has done it. 0.99
00:10:27.000 I mean, he just did it. 1.00
00:10:28.000 And he's talking to some Doughy shithead, some flapping jaw, dumb cunt, who's giving him a hard time about fighting Manny Pacquiao, who he then went shut out a couple months later. 1.00
00:10:41.000 But it's those people that aren't doing anything, those are the ones that are gonna yell something like that out. 1.00
00:10:47.000 Those are people that, they don't have anything to gain or to lose. 1.00
00:10:52.000 And that guy bought the Mighty Pacquiao, he bought the pay-per-view, that same fat doughy piece of shit. 1.00
00:10:57.000 Probably. 1.00
00:10:57.000 Bought the pay-per-view and is a Floyd Mayweather fan and probably bought the TMT t-shirt and hat and rocks his tap out fucking shit. 1.00
00:11:04.000 You know, same guy. 1.00
00:11:05.000 Yeah, he probably has it on a loop on his Facebook.
00:11:08.000 He tells everybody, like, did you see that 24-7 I was on? 1.00
00:11:11.000 Did you see that shit? 1.00
00:11:12.000 I called him out, yo. 1.00
00:11:13.000 I called him out. 1.00
00:11:15.000 Meanwhile, Floyd would slap him in the mouth and make him drink his piss. 0.98
00:11:20.000 Now we just gave him another moment to hit it off of. 0.99
00:11:24.000 There you go.
00:11:25.000 He doesn't have internet connection.
00:11:26.000 He doesn't pay his bills.
00:11:27.000 But I think that that's just, you know, there's this broad range of people.
00:11:32.000 There's going to be winners and there's going to be losers.
00:11:34.000 And there's going to be people that take risks.
00:11:36.000 There's going to be people that don't ever take risks.
00:11:38.000 And they just, they live their life, this sad, muted experience with no risks, no fun, and no rewards.
00:11:48.000 They just never, they never get to shine.
00:11:51.000 You know and a guy like you I Mean you fucking take some big-ass risks with your life and you have some big shining moments You know like the the fourth round kale of Simon Marcus, you know like you don't get those moments unless Sometimes those moments are turned on you.
00:12:10.000 It's just there's no other way like the way you do it There's no other way. 0.96
00:12:13.000 I mean sometimes you the hammer sometimes you the nail I am proud as hell of that, you know what I mean?
00:12:20.000 Like having this conversation like two or three days ago, it would have been a little rough conversation, but now like looking at it like...
00:12:28.000 I'm going to be remembered as that guy that always brought it.
00:12:31.000 My name's going to go down when I'm dead and gone.
00:12:33.000 They're going to remember what I've done for the sport of kickboxing, and I take a lot of pride in that. 1.00
00:12:36.000 And when you turn on a Joe Schilling fight, kill or be killed, I'm going to fucking try and knock his head off. 0.99
00:12:41.000 And I'm going to get caught again in the future, and I'm going to have some huge fucking ups, and I'm okay with that. 1.00
00:12:48.000 I've been knocked out three times. 0.96
00:12:50.000 I wasn't knocked out cold in this fight.
00:12:52.000 And it wasn't unconscious even for a second.
00:12:54.000 They just stopped the fight.
00:12:55.000 I've been knocked out three times in over 95 fights.
00:12:57.000 I've done more than I ever dreamed I would in the sport. 0.99
00:13:00.000 That's a lot of fucking fights. 0.99
00:13:01.000 My kids are super proud. 1.00
00:13:03.000 Their dad's a superhero.
00:13:04.000 My mom is super proud.
00:13:06.000 Knows what I've done.
00:13:08.000 I'm okay with that.
00:13:09.000 That's a great attitude.
00:13:10.000 And if you have that attitude and you press forward with that attitude, I know that you don't like losing, but if you can deal with it, it makes all the other stuff so much easier because you can get right back on the horse.
00:13:22.000 And you've done that already.
00:13:24.000 You have the experience of getting back on the horse.
00:13:26.000 I mean, I got hit by a shot and got dropped and the fight got stopped.
00:13:30.000 I've had Knee surgeries where I was out for a year and had to come back from it.
00:13:33.000 I've had, you know, really, really hard things to overcome and I don't plan on...
00:13:37.000 I'm not a good loser and I don't plan on ever becoming a good one, you know? 0.98
00:13:40.000 You show me a good loser, I'll show you a loser. 0.96
00:13:43.000 Now, the fight, I mean, he hit you with a beautiful spinning backfist, but it wasn't necessarily legal, right? 0.98
00:13:50.000 Because he hit you with a forearm.
00:13:53.000 Bellator rules you can't throw elbows, you can't throw forearms.
00:13:57.000 Isn't that kind of weird? 0.99
00:13:58.000 Because you could fucking shin kick someone in the head. 0.99
00:14:01.000 Yeah, well, I think it's... 0.99
00:14:04.000 ISK is the ruling body that does that for both Glory and for Bellator.
00:14:11.000 And the rules meaning they talk about you can You can clinch a knee, but it has to be active.
00:14:16.000 And if you are active and you're effective, then they'll let it go for five seconds.
00:14:19.000 If you're holding it all, if you're clinching to hold, they won't give you the five seconds.
00:14:23.000 They'll break it.
00:14:23.000 It's one of the rules they explain.
00:14:25.000 When you throw a spinning back fist, it has to be the glove that hits you.
00:14:30.000 Or they start taking the point away, you start warning because it's an illegal shot.
00:14:34.000 Now, I was a professional Muay Thai fighter with elbows and everything else, so I'm never going to say that, you know.
00:14:42.000 Did he plan on throwing that spinning back fist?
00:14:44.000 I don't think so. 0.99
00:14:45.000 Did he have a fucking clue where he was when he threw it? 0.99
00:14:47.000 Not really. 1.00
00:14:48.000 I'm pretty sure he was rocked and was like, oh fuck, and fucking threw it and hit me with it and that shit happens. 1.00
00:14:52.000 Was that technically a legal shot? 1.00
00:14:55.000 No, but I'm not going to contest that.
00:14:57.000 Yeah, it kind of should be legal though, right?
00:15:00.000 I mean, don't you think if you can hit someone with your shin, you should be able to hit someone with your forearm?
00:15:04.000 I mean, I don't like these rules.
00:15:06.000 I agree with that.
00:15:06.000 Yeah, I don't like these rules.
00:15:08.000 I think they came up with these rules for K1, because K1 had this idea.
00:15:12.000 It used to be no back spinning back fist.
00:15:14.000 If you watched the old K1 fights, the only rule they'd say, come out, touch clothes, come out, swing, or whatever, and it was like, no spinning back fist.
00:15:20.000 That's so crazy.
00:15:21.000 But you could throw wheel kicks.
00:15:24.000 Yeah.
00:15:25.000 You know this the rule set is I believe designed for a certain style of fighter of entertainment same thing with the clinch.
00:15:32.000 Yeah, so they that's the Those are the rules that they want.
00:15:36.000 Yeah, they're not big on elbows in Japan because pride didn't allow elbows either Which is crazy because they allowed stomps and soccer kicks, but they didn't allow elbows on the ground So K1 came up with that rule set, and the idea behind it, I guess, was to make the fights more entertaining.
00:15:51.000 Because you wouldn't be able to clinch, and you'd be forced to fight it out.
00:15:55.000 Right.
00:15:56.000 Yeah.
00:15:57.000 Exactly. 0.94
00:15:58.000 What K1 did was pretty goddamn amazing. 0.55
00:16:00.000 I mean, they really took this sport that... 0.83
00:16:03.000 And I think, you know, Dana White had a really good point.
00:16:05.000 We were talking about this once, and I was trying to get him to buy K1. You know, I was like, look, man, these guys, they're going under.
00:16:11.000 Like, kickboxing... 0.68
00:16:14.000 This high-level kickboxing, whether it's Glory or it's Showtime or any of these big organizations, when you look at the high-level talent in kickboxing, that, to me, is some of the most exciting shit to watch in all combat sports.
00:16:27.000 When I watch a fight like your fight this past weekend, or the tournament, or the Simon Marcus fight, or your fight with Artem Levin...
00:16:36.000 These are crazy, chaotic fights.
00:16:38.000 I mean, that's what people love, I think, potentially the most about MMA. Obviously, you know, I'm a big fan of jiu-jitsu as well, and I love when fights go to the ground, and I love when guys win by submission, but...
00:16:51.000 Man, I mean you want to talk about just pure excitement. 0.98
00:16:54.000 Kickboxing is one of the most exciting sports on the planet, but Dana White's point was it got fucked in America by that goddamn PKA karate that used to be on ESPN where you would watch these guys throw these bullshit ass fake kicks where they had to get in like X amount of kicks per round so they would like throw these flippy fake stupid kicks and then they would have just really shitty sloppy boxing. 0.99
00:17:18.000 Oh, man, there's some really good fucking boxers, though. 0.99
00:17:21.000 I think the reason... 0.99
00:17:22.000 It started from the 70s, 80s.
00:17:26.000 Remember martial arts was the thing? 0.99
00:17:29.000 It was kung fu, Billy Jack and all that shit. 0.99
00:17:32.000 Well, they had some Rick Rufuses. 1.00
00:17:33.000 Rick Rufus was a bad motherfucker. 1.00
00:17:35.000 Alex Lesio was a bad motherfucker. 1.00
00:17:38.000 There was some... 1.00
00:17:39.000 Don the Dragon Wilson was a bad motherfucker. 1.00
00:17:41.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
00:17:42.000 But so they had these...
00:17:43.000 There's karate guys, and there are martial arts guys in general, and they're building this, trying to make this full contact thing. 0.95
00:17:50.000 And there was all these boxers that were going there and just beating the fuck out of everybody. 0.98
00:17:53.000 They're like, okay, okay, okay.
00:17:55.000 You have to throw seven kicks before you can, you have to throw seven kicks per round just to keep it from, you know, turning into just straight boxing matches.
00:18:02.000 Yeah.
00:18:03.000 And you watch them, and they'll go out there, and they'll be like, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
00:18:07.000 Wah, wah, wah! 0.99
00:18:07.000 I mean, they're bad motherfucking boxers. 0.99
00:18:09.000 So, like, there was some really good, um, There were some really good guys back then that did go overseas and competed worldwide. 1.00
00:18:19.000 Yeah, there was some, but there was also a lot of sloppy shit. 1.00
00:18:22.000 Oh, there's a lot of sloppy shit, too. 0.99
00:18:24.000 But if you look at the level that you're seeing now today in high-level kickboxing in comparison to them, like the Nikki Holtzkins and the Joe Valtellini and the Raymond Daniels and you, there's no comparison. 0.99
00:18:35.000 The level is so high today.
00:18:37.000 It's much higher today.
00:18:38.000 And I feel like the public is just, for whatever reason, they haven't tuned into it yet.
00:18:43.000 To me, it's the most exciting thing that most people don't know about.
00:18:48.000 Did you watch the Dynamite event?
00:18:50.000 Yeah, I did.
00:18:50.000 Did you like that?
00:18:51.000 I think it's an interesting way to do it.
00:18:53.000 Have a cage and a ring right by each other.
00:18:55.000 Yeah, the setup of the ring in the cage is, you know, Coker really likes it for the fans that are there that they can watch both at the same time.
00:19:03.000 You know, I think the seating arrangements get weird or whatnot, but from a marketing perspective to get exactly what we were talking about, America, to pay attention to kickboxing so that we can build this sport, you got all these people that tuned in to watch Rampage.
00:19:15.000 Yeah.
00:19:16.000 You got people that wanted to watch the title fight that was going on.
00:19:21.000 All of those MMA fans.
00:19:22.000 Michael Chandler.
00:19:23.000 Michael Chandler's fight.
00:19:24.000 Awesome.
00:19:24.000 He did a great job.
00:19:25.000 Woo! 0.99
00:19:28.000 All those people that tuned in, Bellator showed high-level kickboxing.
00:19:32.000 You know what I mean?
00:19:33.000 That's a genius way to market it and to get it out there.
00:19:37.000 I was the first fighter on the kickboxing card to try to keep those ratings going.
00:19:44.000 Your boy Kevin Ross looked sensational too. 0.98
00:19:47.000 Kevin Ross looked fucking great. 0.95
00:19:53.000 I'm excited that Bellator's doing it. 0.98
00:19:55.000 I'm excited Spike TV's doing it.
00:19:56.000 I'm excited that they're putting on kickboxing.
00:19:58.000 I just wonder what's missing.
00:20:02.000 Like, you know, the UFC needed the Ultimate Fighter. 0.97
00:20:05.000 Before the Ultimate Fighter, nobody had a fucking clue as to what MMA was. 0.96
00:20:09.000 They really didn't know. 0.93
00:20:11.000 It was just a few people had heard of UFC from the old days and the Hoist Gracie days and the vast majority of the public was kind of out of the loop.
00:20:18.000 And then they put on The Ultimate Fighter and you know, it was sort of the prime of reality TV back then.
00:20:25.000 And that fight between Forrest Griffin and Stefan Bonner, which was such a wild ass fight, that sort of made MMA. I mean, it really did.
00:20:34.000 It made the UFC. And Bellator needs something like that.
00:20:38.000 What if those two played it safe that night?
00:20:41.000 That's a good point.
00:20:42.000 Where'd we be here, Joe?
00:20:43.000 That's a good point.
00:20:44.000 Where'd we be, Joe?
00:20:44.000 That's a good point.
00:20:45.000 I'd probably be in Texas right now doing stand-up.
00:20:50.000 Probably would have never worked for the U.S. Probably would have went under.
00:20:53.000 How many keyboard warriors were telling Forrest Griffin how sloppy he looked that night and Stephan Bonner was a chode or whatever the fuck they would say. 0.99
00:21:02.000 What is a chode? 0.98
00:21:03.000 Does anybody know?
00:21:04.000 Is that a real thing? 0.58
00:21:06.000 You know what they like to call people today I've known is cuck. 0.77
00:21:09.000 A cuck? 0.97
00:21:10.000 A cuck.
00:21:10.000 That's a big thing.
00:21:12.000 Well, you know what it is?
00:21:13.000 It's like the kids on the internet have found a new insult.
00:21:17.000 Like, cuck has only been around for like...
00:21:19.000 Cuck? 0.86
00:21:19.000 Yeah, cuck. 0.86
00:21:20.000 C-U-K? C-U-K, yeah. 0.95
00:21:22.000 Well, it comes from cuckold, which is like a guy who likes watching his wife get fucked. 1.00
00:21:30.000 By other men, usually manlier men. 1.00
00:21:34.000 How the fuck do you know that term, Joey? 0.99
00:21:36.000 How do you know that? 0.99
00:21:37.000 I'm online.
00:21:38.000 I frequent the internet, sir. 0.99
00:21:40.000 From dick pics to cuckold? 1.00
00:21:41.000 Yeah, cuckold, right? 1.00
00:21:43.000 Correct me if I'm wrong, Jamie.
00:21:45.000 But I believe that's what it's about.
00:21:47.000 You know who would know?
00:21:48.000 I wish Jim Norton was here.
00:21:49.000 He could explain this to us.
00:21:51.000 In its entirety. 0.98
00:21:52.000 But there is a whole genre of porn based around like really nerdy white guys who have like this smoking hot wife that's not satisfied. 1.00
00:22:01.000 And some guy is like, shut the fuck up and sit down. 1.00
00:22:04.000 I'm gonna fuck your wife in front of you. 1.00
00:22:05.000 Oh no! 1.00
00:22:06.000 And they cry. 1.00
00:22:07.000 And some of them, they make the husband suck their dick. 1.00
00:22:11.000 That happens too. 1.00
00:22:13.000 Wow.
00:22:13.000 Yeah.
00:22:14.000 That's a cuck. 0.98
00:22:16.000 That's a cuck. 1.00
00:22:16.000 Do the husband who sucks dick is the cuck? 1.00
00:22:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:22:18.000 Or the guy that comes in and smashes the line? 1.00
00:22:20.000 No, that guy's a stud.
00:22:20.000 The guy who comes in and smashes it.
00:22:22.000 But I don't know if he's a stud, if he lets the guy suck his dick. 1.00
00:22:24.000 That's just weird. 1.00
00:22:25.000 Yeah.
00:22:26.000 That's where it goes deep. 0.96
00:22:27.000 You know, there's like a spectrum even in cuck porn. 0.98
00:22:30.000 So deep. 0.99
00:22:30.000 Even cuck porn has a... 0.99
00:22:32.000 There's a lot of variables that you have to take into consideration. 0.97
00:22:35.000 Unbelievable.
00:22:35.000 But I see people calling people cucks all the time.
00:22:38.000 Like when... 0.99
00:22:40.000 If you're calling another man a cuck as an insult, what does that say about you and the porn that you watch that you know that is? 0.96
00:22:46.000 It just says you frequent, like Reddit or something, or you're on Twitter all the time. 0.93
00:22:51.000 I mean, I don't think it says anything about you.
00:22:53.000 I just think it's a new thing to call someone to hurt their feelings, you know?
00:22:58.000 Like, there's no other, there's no equivalent word. 0.92
00:23:01.000 Like, it's a new sort of, like, classification of someone, to call someone a cuck. 1.00
00:23:05.000 You fucking cuck. 1.00
00:23:07.000 Yeah, you cuck. 1.00
00:23:08.000 Well, no, I'm starting to have to start calling people that. 0.94
00:23:10.000 Yeah, no, don't do it.
00:23:12.000 We just promoted it to the world.
00:23:14.000 It was a kind of thing before. 1.00
00:23:16.000 Now it's going to be fucking holy shit. 0.99
00:23:19.000 No, they've been doing it forever. 1.00
00:23:20.000 They're going to call people a hashtag powerful cuck.
00:23:23.000 Oh, you just started something now, man.
00:23:26.000 You just made a big mistake.
00:23:30.000 You know when I noticed it a lot when Kurt Metzger, he's a writer for Amy Schumer's show.
00:23:36.000 He's a funny stand-up comedian, very funny guy.
00:23:38.000 And he was one of the writers for Amy Schumer's show when she was getting accused of plagiarism and all this stuff was going on. 0.95
00:23:44.000 And I was seeing all these people calling him a cuck. 0.87
00:23:46.000 And I was like, what is this? 0.71
00:23:48.000 And then I noticed it everywhere.
00:23:49.000 People calling people cucks. 0.99
00:23:50.000 Like everyone's a cuck. 0.99
00:23:52.000 Cuck. 0.97
00:23:52.000 It's just a phase. 0.97
00:23:54.000 I hope so.
00:23:55.000 There you go. 0.98
00:23:56.000 So if someone calls you a cuck, Now you know. 0.87
00:23:58.000 You're like, what am I, a chicken? 1.00
00:23:59.000 The fuck is that? 1.00
00:24:00.000 I don't get it. 1.00
00:24:01.000 A cluck?
00:24:02.000 Now I will get it.
00:24:04.000 The internets are gonna melt now.
00:24:06.000 All of the haters now are gonna call me a cook.
00:24:10.000 You think?
00:24:10.000 I don't think it'll work.
00:24:12.000 It doesn't work. 0.98
00:24:13.000 If you don't like actually watching your wife get guerrilla fucked by some greater... 1.00
00:24:18.000 First of all, you gotta find a dude to fuck your wife that you can't kick his ass. 1.00
00:24:22.000 That's not like a regular guy, Joe Schilling. 1.00
00:24:25.000 So this is a different sort of scenario. 1.00
00:24:27.000 A real cuck is supposed to be like a feeble person who lets some fucking Lawrence Taylor type dude come into his bedroom and fuck the shit out of his little white wife. 1.00
00:24:36.000 There's a visual for you. 1.00
00:24:37.000 Yeah, there you go.
00:24:38.000 That kind of a thing, you know?
00:24:41.000 Well, tuck won't work on me then.
00:24:42.000 I'm not that guy.
00:24:45.000 But they'll try it on you anyway.
00:24:46.000 Yeah.
00:24:49.000 I mean, I wonder if we've run out of insults.
00:24:51.000 I mean, because this cuck one, they're using it so often, even when it's not really applicable, and they're doing it because it's a new one.
00:24:58.000 Like, we got a new one!
00:25:00.000 Yes! 1.00
00:25:01.000 Like, it's not like, this makes sense, let me call him a faggot. 1.00
00:25:04.000 This makes sense, let me call him a pussy. 1.00
00:25:05.000 No, it's like, we got this word, let's just throw it around until it's almost like they found a new word, and they're just throwing it around until it's useless. 0.99
00:25:14.000 And we're promoting it.
00:25:16.000 We'll be useless quicker now.
00:25:18.000 We're just reporters here, Joe Schilling.
00:25:20.000 We're just talking about the world.
00:25:21.000 You and I, we're essentially journalists.
00:25:24.000 Yeah, we're current events journalists.
00:25:27.000 And there might be some old folks right now that are maybe, you know, not in the same social groups as us.
00:25:32.000 Maybe they live in Iowa or something like that.
00:25:34.000 And they're just trying to dip their toe into the rest of the world.
00:25:37.000 Like, what are these kids talking about these days?
00:25:39.000 Let me see what a comedian and a kickboxer have to say about the world.
00:25:42.000 And then they find out about cucks.
00:25:44.000 And then, you know, their wife later is going through their Google search.
00:25:47.000 And she finds cuck. 0.94
00:25:48.000 What the hell's a cuck? 1.00
00:25:49.000 What the fuck is a cuck? 1.00
00:25:50.000 And then she starts looking up cuck, and she finds cuck porn, and she gets excited, and she thinks, my husband wants a guy to fuck me in front of him. 1.00
00:25:59.000 I know what I'm gonna do. 1.00
00:26:00.000 I'm gonna set some shit up. 0.99
00:26:01.000 And then she goes on Craigslist, finds some dude, and she thinks, you know, she's fulfilling a fantasy, tries to spice up the relationship, and suicide. 1.00
00:26:11.000 Murder-suicide, man.
00:26:13.000 Murder-suicide.
00:26:13.000 Probably, right?
00:26:14.000 Yeah.
00:26:15.000 It's hard to come back from that one.
00:26:17.000 Depends on how far on the sticks we're talking about.
00:26:19.000 Yeah.
00:26:20.000 I think now, with the internet, I don't think there really is a sticks anymore.
00:26:25.000 I think even in the sticks, they still get all the data.
00:26:27.000 If you have a connection to the internet, and you can research stuff, all the weirdness of the world will find its way into your brain.
00:26:36.000 There's no hiding anymore.
00:26:38.000 Can't hide from the cucks anymore. 0.98
00:26:39.000 Yeah, it used to be like you could live in some weird town in Kentucky and you would never find out about the goth people or the furries or any of the weird shit out there, but now you find out. 0.99
00:26:52.000 Cosplay. 0.99
00:26:52.000 Who the fuck's gonna find out about cosplay in West Virginia? 0.99
00:26:56.000 What the fuck is cosplay? 1.00
00:26:58.000 You don't know what that is? 1.00
00:26:58.000 What planet am I on? 1.00
00:27:00.000 You're too busy training. 1.00
00:27:01.000 I don't know anything about this shit. 1.00
00:27:02.000 Too busy hanging out in downtown LA. Representing DTLA. All day, son. 1.00
00:27:07.000 That's where my buddy Magnus Walker lives.
00:27:09.000 The Porsche guy.
00:27:11.000 You ever seen his videos?
00:27:12.000 Yeah.
00:27:13.000 Drives all around downtown LA in classic Porsches.
00:27:15.000 He was actually right, his spot, his loft or whatever is right next to where the first location of the yard in my gym was.
00:27:22.000 Really? 0.99
00:27:22.000 No shit. 0.99
00:27:24.000 So you're in the heart of it, man. 0.99
00:27:25.000 What do you like about downtown LA? Right now I like it because it's close to the gym and it's close to my kid's house and it's convenient.
00:27:36.000 It's close to Hollywood.
00:27:36.000 It's like 15 minutes from Hollywood.
00:27:38.000 It's kind of right in the middle of everything.
00:27:40.000 Yeah, it's funky too now.
00:27:41.000 Downtown LA is kind of morphing, right?
00:27:43.000 Yeah, it's getting different.
00:27:45.000 It used to be like a very arts district and like younger crowd.
00:27:53.000 Not too expensive.
00:27:54.000 Now it's like super...
00:27:56.000 High-end, expensive, like the property down there's blowing up.
00:27:58.000 It's crazy how it's blowing up.
00:28:00.000 We were actually looking at a place. 0.98
00:28:01.000 There's still much shit to do down there, though. 0.99
00:28:03.000 There's like five bars downtown. 0.99
00:28:06.000 That's it?
00:28:06.000 Yeah, it's not like...
00:28:07.000 I don't know.
00:28:08.000 I don't really enjoy it for nightlife stuff.
00:28:10.000 Some nice restaurants.
00:28:11.000 You know what it is?
00:28:11.000 I think people are craving something like that.
00:28:14.000 And they see something happening and they're like, it's happening.
00:28:17.000 It's happening.
00:28:17.000 It's happening right here.
00:28:18.000 Let's start building.
00:28:19.000 Let's start buying up.
00:28:20.000 And they're hoping that it becomes like a New York.
00:28:23.000 You know?
00:28:23.000 Because LA doesn't have...
00:28:24.000 LA doesn't have one.
00:28:25.000 No, it doesn't have like a place where anybody walks.
00:28:29.000 Well, LA is like, people say they live in LA, but you live in like Burbank or Glendale.
00:28:33.000 There's like 50 cities that have about as big a downtown as downtown LA. Yeah, it's like LA County.
00:28:39.000 If you live in LA County, you live in LA. But LA itself, LA proper, there's nowhere to walk.
00:28:46.000 It's like Melrose Street.
00:28:48.000 You could kind of walk on Melrose.
00:28:49.000 Good luck crossing one of those streets. 1.00
00:28:50.000 People will fucking run you over while they're texting and doing meth. 0.99
00:28:54.000 There's some cool spots downtown. 0.99
00:28:56.000 I was like, I can't believe you're hating on downtown LA. No, I like downtown LA. Jamie and I talked about putting a studio up.
00:29:02.000 I think what we might do, we're going to set up another place around here, but we're talking about doing a place on one of those penthouses.
00:29:12.000 One of those apartment buildings.
00:29:14.000 Just get an apartment on like a top floor with one of those crazy views.
00:29:17.000 Right.
00:29:17.000 I just think that would enhance a podcast.
00:29:20.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:29:20.000 If we were sitting here and behind us was some fucking sick view of the city, especially at night. 0.98
00:29:24.000 Where the fuck is my picture, Joe? 0.99
00:29:25.000 I thought that was... 0.99
00:29:26.000 Oh, it's out there.
00:29:27.000 It's out in the other room.
00:29:28.000 It's in the podcast, okay.
00:29:29.000 It's in the other room.
00:29:29.000 Alright.
00:29:30.000 I'll go get it.
00:29:30.000 I'm gonna go get it.
00:29:31.000 Nah, that's fine.
00:29:31.000 I'll go get it.
00:29:32.000 It's cool.
00:29:32.000 You're still smoking.
00:29:33.000 That picture has you smoking.
00:29:35.000 You quit for a little while.
00:29:36.000 Are you back?
00:29:37.000 Yeah, I go back fourth, I think. 1.00
00:29:38.000 Gotta quit that shit, dude. 1.00
00:29:40.000 I don't know. 1.00
00:29:40.000 You gotta. 1.00
00:29:41.000 It's no good.
00:29:42.000 There's no benefit.
00:29:44.000 Zero. 0.99
00:29:45.000 Except the I don't give a fuck factor. 0.99
00:29:49.000 There's something about when you decide, I'm gonna smoke a cigarette right now. 0.99
00:29:53.000 Clearly, I don't give a fuck about my health. 0.99
00:29:55.000 I don't give a fuck about the future. 1.00
00:29:57.000 I don't give a fuck about cancer. 1.00
00:29:59.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00
00:30:01.000 There's an I don't give a fuck moment. 1.00
00:30:03.000 But I guess there's some escape in that. 0.99
00:30:05.000 There's some fun in that.
00:30:06.000 And then you get the chemicals from the cigarette that you're craving.
00:30:12.000 That nice nicotine feeling, the calmness that comes with it, that washes over it.
00:30:17.000 You need a cigarette right now?
00:30:18.000 You're making me want one, actually.
00:30:20.000 But you're a professional athlete, man.
00:30:22.000 Yeah, I am.
00:30:23.000 Can't be doing that.
00:30:26.000 Try vaping? 1.00
00:30:26.000 Try sucking on those robot dicks that everybody's got? 1.00
00:30:29.000 Yeah, I have a great sponsor who hooked me up with that stuff. 1.00
00:30:31.000 They have Firebrand America.
00:30:33.000 Awesome.
00:30:34.000 Powerful Firebrand America.
00:30:35.000 Is that good?
00:30:36.000 They're really good.
00:30:37.000 They take really good care of me.
00:30:38.000 Do they have one of those big fat ones that look like a cigarette box?
00:30:42.000 Yeah, they have a whole bunch of those different kinds.
00:30:44.000 What is the deal with those?
00:30:45.000 It's called a mod.
00:30:45.000 I don't know.
00:30:46.000 A mod.
00:30:47.000 It's called a mod.
00:30:47.000 It's a big thing.
00:30:49.000 Cucks and mods.
00:30:50.000 Cucks and mods.
00:30:51.000 For a reason.
00:30:53.000 Cuck is not going to catch on.
00:30:54.000 I still don't get it. 0.99
00:30:55.000 I still don't fucking get it. 0.99
00:30:56.000 Still don't get it. 1.00
00:30:57.000 Cuck. 1.00
00:30:58.000 Why don't you just call the guy cock or cocksucker or fucking... 1.00
00:31:00.000 Nope. 1.00
00:31:01.000 Nope.
00:31:02.000 Nope. 1.00
00:31:02.000 You're a cuck. 1.00
00:31:03.000 Nope. 1.00
00:31:03.000 You're a fucking cuck. 1.00
00:31:05.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:31:05.000 They like it. 1.00
00:31:07.000 It's a new word.
00:31:08.000 It's exciting to use.
00:31:09.000 Let them use it.
00:31:09.000 People haven't had a new word to call people in so long, and they're trying to take away so many of them.
00:31:15.000 It used to be when I was a kid, you can call a kid a faggot. 1.00
00:31:18.000 Now you're gay bashing. 1.00
00:31:20.000 Back then it had nothing to do with being gay, but it's too late. 0.79
00:31:24.000 It's connected to that. 0.96
00:31:26.000 It's really hard to use retard. 1.00
00:31:28.000 It's hard to use retard today. 0.98
00:31:30.000 Even though it's not even a classification for mental illness.
00:31:33.000 It has nothing to do with Down syndrome.
00:31:36.000 Retarded means slow growth. 1.00
00:31:38.000 Slow to catch on.
00:31:40.000 It is literally the perfect word to use for retards. 1.00
00:31:44.000 When someone's a retard, calling them a retard is the perfect word. 1.00
00:31:47.000 You would never say that about someone who has a disease or someone who has Down syndrome. 0.98
00:31:53.000 But if someone's like, once Trump wins, white people are taking over. 1.00
00:31:57.000 That's a retard. 1.00
00:31:58.000 That's a retard, right? 1.00
00:31:59.000 Fucking retard. 1.00
00:32:00.000 It's the right word. 1.00
00:32:01.000 It's the right word. 1.00
00:32:03.000 These goddamn language police motherfuckers. 1.00
00:32:06.000 Everybody's so sensitive. 1.00
00:32:07.000 They're too sensitive. 0.98
00:32:08.000 Bunch of cucks. 1.00
00:32:10.000 Fucking sensitive cucks. 1.00
00:32:14.000 They've trimmed it up. 1.00
00:32:14.000 Maybe they will catch on. 1.00
00:32:15.000 Maybe I do like it. 1.00
00:32:16.000 You fucking sensitive cuck. 1.00
00:32:17.000 We need a new word. 1.00
00:32:18.000 I'm happy it's around.
00:32:19.000 Because that actually works in the description, right? 1.00
00:32:21.000 It's the type of weak little bitch that would let some other man fuck his wife. 1.00
00:32:24.000 Yes! 1.00
00:32:25.000 The same person that would be like, oh, don't call him a retard. 0.98
00:32:27.000 Exactly.
00:32:28.000 We need to be more sensitive about the way we communicate.
00:32:32.000 But what they're really trying to do is just control people. 0.96
00:32:35.000 It's the pussification. 0.96
00:32:36.000 Yes. 1.00
00:32:38.000 The goddamn pussification of America. 1.00
00:32:40.000 See, it's not even America, though. 1.00
00:32:41.000 It's like the whole world.
00:32:41.000 The whole world.
00:32:42.000 It's just fucking pussification of everybody. 1.00
00:32:44.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
00:32:45.000 And it's also not being honest about what the fuck's going on. 0.97
00:32:49.000 You know, like, when something happens, we have to be real sensitive to who we insult. 0.97
00:32:56.000 Post, like, attacks. 0.99
00:32:57.000 Like, with this shit that was going on in Germany where all these women were getting raped during New Year's Eve because of all these Islamic refugees that they had come in from Syria. 1.00
00:33:06.000 I mean, it's just, that's just the way it is. 1.00
00:33:08.000 People are coming from a completely different culture.
00:33:10.000 In their culture, women are much more suppressed. 1.00
00:33:13.000 They come over to this country, Germany, where women are westernized. 1.00
00:33:17.000 They're free, and they're wearing skirts, and their tits are hanging out. 1.00
00:33:20.000 They're dressed normal, and they're getting attacked. 1.00
00:33:23.000 And so, what does the fucking mayor of, what was it, Berlin, tell them? 1.00
00:33:27.000 Stay away from men and dress different. 0.99
00:33:29.000 Stay an arm's length away from men and dress more conservatively.
00:33:32.000 Like, literally! 1.00
00:33:33.000 This fucking... 1.00
00:33:35.000 These people are so sensitive and worried that they're gonna hurt someone's feelings or they're gonna be called Islamophobic or racist in some way that they're telling women who've done nothing wrong that they should dress differently because they've unfortunately let these people in from another culture that think about things differently. 1.00
00:33:56.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:33:57.000 Bunch of cocks. 1.00
00:33:57.000 Fucking cocks. 1.00
00:33:59.000 Sensitive cock. 1.00
00:34:02.000 The mayor of Berlin or wherever it was, was a woman. 1.00
00:34:05.000 Was it Berlin?
00:34:06.000 I don't remember when the city it was.
00:34:07.000 That's a woman, so it's even more confusing. 0.99
00:34:10.000 But boy, did she get fucking raked over the coals online. 1.00
00:34:13.000 People are getting tired of it. 0.98
00:34:14.000 The pendulum swings both ways. 0.99
00:34:16.000 You know, it swings towards ultra-sensitivity, and then people get sick of that, and they go, what the fuck? 0.99
00:34:21.000 And then they go hard the other way. 0.98
00:34:23.000 I think that's one of the reasons why Trump is the Republican nominee.
00:34:27.000 I think Caitlyn Jenner is responsible for a lot of it. 1.00
00:34:30.000 I think people saw that, and they're like, Fuck! 1.00
00:34:34.000 What are you doing? 1.00
00:34:36.000 What is this 62-year-old man?
00:34:38.000 Now he's a woman. 0.97
00:34:39.000 Call me Kate.
00:34:40.000 On the cover of Vanity Fair. 0.50
00:34:42.000 Gonna be naked on the cover of Sports Illustrated. 1.00
00:34:44.000 And then she won, like, Athlete of the Year or some weird fuck. 1.00
00:34:47.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00
00:34:49.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00
00:34:50.000 She won Woman of the Year. 1.00
00:34:51.000 Yeah, Woman of the Year.
00:34:52.000 She won it for a week.
00:34:54.000 She wins Woman of the Year.
00:34:55.000 It just shows you.
00:34:55.000 Men can do everything, including, can win Woman of the Year.
00:34:58.000 Look at this. 0.90
00:34:59.000 Cock. 1.00
00:35:00.000 Jamie pulled up the fucking definition. 1.00
00:35:02.000 Is this an urban dictionary? 0.99
00:35:03.000 This is a better definition, I think, than the one you gave.
00:35:06.000 Oh, how dare you?
00:35:07.000 A demasculated millennial liberal male who often speaks of white privilege and modern feminism blames white men for all of the world's problems. 0.93
00:35:15.000 Hmm.
00:35:16.000 This is the new definition.
00:35:17.000 They're updated now.
00:35:18.000 That's not all the definitions you gave me, Joe.
00:35:20.000 I like this, though.
00:35:21.000 There goes Chad again with the megaphone telling everyone that he's a vegan. 0.99
00:35:25.000 What a cuck. 0.99
00:35:26.000 Okay. 0.95
00:35:27.000 I like that.
00:35:28.000 I like that a lot.
00:35:30.000 But look up cuckold.
00:35:32.000 What still has it on here?
00:35:34.000 But cuckold is different.
00:35:36.000 It's a different, uh, short for cuck-servative?
00:35:39.000 What? 0.92
00:35:41.000 The word cuck is most commonly used on Twitter to describe anti-white males. 0.90
00:35:47.000 While it was originally formed with the original meaning of cuck... 0.95
00:35:51.000 Cuck hold. 1.00
00:35:52.000 The use of the word cuck does not necessarily denote a sexual connotation. 0.90
00:35:56.000 Wow, it's morphing.
00:35:57.000 The language is evolving before our eyes. 0.99
00:36:00.000 Cucks do not care about Islamic countries throwing gays off buildings or hanging them as much as the cake baker who is Christian and won't serve gay wedding customers. 0.99
00:36:10.000 Oh, that's interesting. 0.99
00:36:11.000 Cucks give a free pass to anyone who criticizes them for fear of looking racist or homophobic. 0.99
00:36:16.000 Well, so that lady in Germany is a cuck. 1.00
00:36:19.000 The word originated from white nationalist vocabulary, but it's still widely used by all. 0.96
00:36:24.000 Okay, but that...
00:36:25.000 So, but they took cuckold and turned it into this new thing.
00:36:30.000 Go to...
00:36:31.000 But what is cuck...
00:36:32.000 Pull up the definition for cuckold. 0.99
00:36:34.000 So this has nothing to do with guys' wives getting banged by gorillas or shit like that? 0.99
00:36:38.000 It does to me. 1.00
00:36:38.000 It's still real to me, damn it. 1.00
00:36:40.000 There's also like an official definition that is from like an old dictionary from Old English. 0.96
00:36:44.000 Oh.
00:36:45.000 It just means a man whose wife is unfaithful. 0.99
00:36:46.000 Yeah, cuckold. 0.99
00:36:48.000 Which is, yeah... 0.66
00:36:48.000 Yeah, to make a cuckold of. 0.66
00:36:51.000 So, if you, okay, that's how Norton, I think, described it to me. 0.99
00:36:56.000 Like, man, if your wife is out banging other dudes and you know about it but you don't say anything, you become a cuckold. 1.00
00:37:03.000 But there's also, like, cuckold porn where it's, like I said, the guy's there while, like, sobbing in the corner while his wife gets gorilla fucked. 1.00
00:37:14.000 Interesting. 1.00
00:37:15.000 The world is evolving.
00:37:16.000 It's beautiful.
00:37:18.000 So it's still open season then for used cuck any way you want?
00:37:22.000 Because we just did like five definitions. 0.98
00:37:24.000 I still don't have a fucking clue what it means. 0.95
00:37:27.000 Yeah, I mean... 1.00
00:37:28.000 Bunch of cucks. 0.89
00:37:30.000 Sensitive cucks.
00:37:31.000 I like that one definition though. 0.90
00:37:32.000 The vegan who gets on the megaphone.
00:37:35.000 It's usually a vegan who's been a vegan for like a month too.
00:37:38.000 Those are my favorite. 1.00
00:37:40.000 Fucking cucks. 1.00
00:37:44.000 Boy, how do you pull out of this and have a normal conversation? 1.00
00:37:46.000 Where do we go from here, Joe?
00:37:48.000 Where do we go?
00:37:49.000 So, tell me what it's like working with Scott Coker and what this whole...
00:37:53.000 I mean, you are the face of Bellator Kickboxing.
00:37:56.000 They're really promoting you hard.
00:37:57.000 Like, the Bellator Kickboxing logo has your image.
00:38:00.000 You know, was it like you throwing a knee, I think?
00:38:02.000 Is it?
00:38:03.000 I think.
00:38:04.000 Or you throwing a punch or is it an elbow?
00:38:06.000 Something.
00:38:06.000 But it's your...
00:38:07.000 I'm seeing, like, so many of these Bellator Kickboxing...
00:38:12.000 Promos that have your face on it.
00:38:14.000 Yeah.
00:38:15.000 It's a good feeling.
00:38:17.000 Scott Coker's a big fan of kickboxing.
00:38:19.000 He is.
00:38:19.000 He is.
00:38:20.000 Yeah, he's really pushing it.
00:38:23.000 I think that Viacom and Spike Sports are really pushing it.
00:38:27.000 They're really getting behind it and they're trying to promote the sport.
00:38:31.000 I'm blessed that I'm a big part of that and they're trying to do that for me.
00:38:34.000 Scott Coker and Bellator in general has always treated me really, really well.
00:38:39.000 Really well.
00:38:40.000 They need to bail on that name.
00:38:42.000 Bellator.
00:38:42.000 You hate it.
00:38:43.000 I hate it. 0.98
00:38:43.000 I hate it. 0.98
00:38:44.000 There you go.
00:38:45.000 It's you throwing an elbow.
00:38:46.000 I'm right.
00:38:47.000 Bellator kickboxing.
00:38:48.000 Look at that, brother.
00:38:49.000 Kazam.
00:38:50.000 Kapow.
00:38:51.000 You're not allowed to elbow Bellator kickboxing.
00:38:53.000 Yeah, that's even weirder.
00:38:54.000 You're throwing an elbow and you're not allowed to elbow. 1.00
00:38:57.000 Yeah, what the fuck? 0.99
00:38:58.000 I don't know. 1.00
00:38:59.000 That just shows how ridiculous it is. 0.90
00:39:01.000 Why don't they just do Muay Thai? 0.93
00:39:03.000 I mean, like, I watch Lion Fight.
00:39:06.000 They're just doing straight Muay Thai, and it seems pretty popular, although it's on AXS TV. I think the K1 model worked really well.
00:39:15.000 I think that, you know what I mean?
00:39:16.000 Why change?
00:39:17.000 It obviously worked for so long.
00:39:19.000 Um, because the other stuff works.
00:39:21.000 Like, if you're gonna strike, if you're just gonna do striking, why not throw elbows?
00:39:25.000 I mean, why not throw knees in the clinch?
00:39:27.000 Why not be able to clinch and sweep?
00:39:29.000 Why not be able to do all the things that make Muay Thai special?
00:39:33.000 Why not take off MMA gloves?
00:39:34.000 Why not stomp on people's face?
00:39:36.000 Why not do the knee drop?
00:39:37.000 You know what I mean?
00:39:38.000 Everything can change.
00:39:39.000 That's right.
00:39:40.000 Bare knuckle.
00:39:42.000 Bare Knuckle Muay Thai.
00:39:42.000 I knew you were going to bring those.
00:39:44.000 I had to bring it up.
00:39:44.000 Here we go again.
00:39:45.000 Does anybody...
00:39:46.000 Well, I know in Thailand, there's still like...
00:39:48.000 I saw Sanchai had a fight recently where they were wearing just essentially hand wraps.
00:39:53.000 Yeah.
00:39:53.000 But they're pretty thick hand wraps.
00:39:55.000 Yeah, it's like a rope.
00:39:56.000 It's like a bounded fist.
00:39:57.000 It matches a Thai fight.
00:39:58.000 They still do that every couple, however long.
00:40:00.000 What's the benefit of that?
00:40:01.000 Because it looks like it's still a lot of padding.
00:40:03.000 I think it's more about the Thai culture and that was like the...
00:40:08.000 Siam warrior days when they were going to war they had that kind of thing and the monk on that they wear when they walk out for the thing we would wear they would wear that around they wouldn't take that off like you know now they would pull it down and I wear it around their neck like a necklace when they would fight and go to war really but it's still the same thing it's like a cloth that's been blessed it might be your your mother's shirt or something like special and you're taking that with you to battle you would never would never take that off and years and years ago No shit.
00:40:34.000 When did they start taking it off? 0.98
00:40:35.000 Somebody got Ezekiel choked with it?
00:40:37.000 Yeah, probably.
00:40:38.000 I mean, but, uh, you know, that was, uh, Muay Baran is a traditional martial arts style of Muay Thai before it became a sport.
00:40:45.000 It was Muay Baran.
00:40:45.000 That's where you see, like, Tony John and those guys just run up you and drop elbows.
00:40:50.000 Like, the war, um, style of Muay Thai was Muay Baran, which is what those bounded fist things are.
00:40:57.000 It's more about, like, giving, uh...
00:41:00.000 Showing their culture, I think. 0.99
00:41:01.000 They're very proud of Muay Thai in Thailand.
00:41:03.000 It's their national sport.
00:41:05.000 Well, they should be.
00:41:06.000 I mean, they figured out the best way to take care of someone's legs. 0.70
00:41:10.000 I mean, they really did figure out the best way to leg kick.
00:41:12.000 They figured out the best way to throw elbows in the clinch. 1.00
00:41:16.000 I mean, just so many excellent things came out of Muay Thai.
00:41:19.000 Oh, yeah.
00:41:20.000 It's interesting that this one country...
00:41:22.000 I mean, pretend Thailand didn't exist.
00:41:24.000 It's a very small country.
00:41:25.000 If Thailand didn't exist, like, literally all of combat striking would be very different. 0.73
00:41:31.000 Right.
00:41:31.000 One of the most influential countries ever, if you really take into consideration, like, what they've contributed to overall combat sports, Thailand is one of the most influential countries ever.
00:41:42.000 Next to Brazil.
00:41:43.000 Well, I guess Japan, because... 0.99
00:41:46.000 That's the first and foremost because the Japanese even taught jujitsu to Elio Gracie and Carlos Gracie and then it became Brazilian jujitsu, but Brazil is responsible for a massive amount of evolution of submission fighting, but other than that you got I guess Western wrestling,
00:42:05.000 you know, but that's Russia.
00:42:07.000 That's a lot of countries where you start talking about wrestling.
00:42:11.000 Yeah.
00:42:11.000 And then you got boxing.
00:42:12.000 You got kung fu, which was huge and a huge martial art.
00:42:15.000 It's not used as predominantly in MMA. So, like, MMA makes the sport, you know, your...
00:42:21.000 You're talking about Brazil and what it's done for the sport.
00:42:24.000 Well, that's the sport style of it.
00:42:26.000 Kung Fu was a huge martial art from China and Judo and Karate. 0.99
00:42:31.000 Before there was guns and bombs and cucks everywhere, there was Vikings who had fucking swords that went across the globe and fucking raped and pillaged and dominated people. 1.00
00:42:43.000 Humans... 1.00
00:42:44.000 Millions of years, however many years ago it was, you know, they were animals.
00:42:49.000 Yeah.
00:42:50.000 Killing people and going to war and all of these countries made up, you know, samurais and made up their own style or whatever. 0.95
00:42:58.000 But like, I think Burma, which is like right next to Thailand, has like Burmese boxing, which is very similar.
00:43:04.000 Cambodia has Muay Thai or its own version of those things, you know.
00:43:08.000 Yeah, there's Bando, you know, that's from Burma too, right?
00:43:15.000 It's just amazing the style that the Thais use as far as the clinching, the knees in the clinch, and the kicks and elbows in the clinch, and then leg kicks. 0.51
00:43:24.000 They really revolutionized stand-up striking, certainly in MMA. One of the most important aspects of MMA. And, you know, some guys just become so proficient at it.
00:43:37.000 It's interesting when you watch pure Thai boxing, like Yotsin Klai, or like really high-level Thai guys.
00:43:45.000 You watch it, you're like, wow, this is like a totally different way of doing it.
00:43:50.000 Like, they have a very specific type of style.
00:43:53.000 And you watch the...
00:43:54.000 When you see the high-level guys come over and fight in the U.S., it's really interesting how successful they are.
00:44:00.000 Oh, yeah.
00:44:02.000 And, like, Sanchai, you know, has a very exciting style and a very different style.
00:44:07.000 He uses a lot of Moybaran techniques.
00:44:11.000 You know, the cartwheel kick is a Moybaran technique. 0.70
00:44:13.000 So he's a...
00:44:16.000 In Thailand, the culture of Muay Thai and the level is so unbelievably high that the involvement has really involved.
00:44:27.000 Yeah.
00:44:28.000 Sanchai's really light on his feet, too.
00:44:30.000 He's interesting to watch fight because he's not like...
00:44:32.000 We think of a Thai fighter as being light with the front leg, kind of plodding forward.
00:44:38.000 But Sanchai's very light on his feet, real good footwork, moves around a lot, a lot of...
00:44:44.000 A lot of feints and a lot of, like, Mr. X and very, very fast.
00:44:51.000 Very fast kicker, too.
00:44:53.000 Interesting.
00:44:54.000 Like, there's so many good guys now that have come over from Thailand.
00:44:57.000 Young guys, too, like Joe Natawat.
00:44:59.000 You know, it's a really good time to watch just even straight Muay Thai.
00:45:04.000 Yeah, I mean, you got guys with 200 fights that were trained by guys with 200 fights that were trained by guys with 200 fights that were trained with guys by 200 fights, you know, so it's...
00:45:14.000 You know, and they start when they're seven years old and that's this their way of life and their culture and their, you know Muay Thai is like in their blood and in their DNA and their You know, I have 90 fights somewhere on that 90 fights like man.
00:45:27.000 That's a lot of fights. 0.98
00:45:28.000 I'm like that ain't shit. 0.99
00:45:29.000 That's like a 15 year old in Thailand. 0.99
00:45:31.000 But for a boxer, that's crazy, right?
00:45:34.000 Find a boxer that has 90 fights and it's pretty rare.
00:45:37.000 Mm-hmm Well, I mean, like, De La Hoya had like 150 imageries.
00:45:41.000 Did he really?
00:45:41.000 Yeah.
00:45:43.000 What is the most anybody's ever had in MMA, I think, is Travis Fulton.
00:45:47.000 I think Travis Fulton has like 300 fights?
00:45:50.000 I think he has 300 fights.
00:45:52.000 Jesus.
00:45:52.000 Yeah.
00:45:53.000 Jeremy Horn, I think, had 200 or close to it.
00:45:55.000 Yeah, Jeremy Horn, that was who I thought. 0.96
00:45:57.000 I saw Jeremy Horn fight in this janky little fucking card once in, uh, somewhere in California. 0.96
00:46:02.000 I forget where he went, some Indian casino or something like that. 0.98
00:46:06.000 Where you weren't allowed to punch.
00:46:09.000 You were allowed to slap. 0.83
00:46:11.000 Slap to the face, but you were allowed to kick to the face.
00:46:14.000 And it was like when MMA was illegal.
00:46:17.000 Like pancreation or something?
00:46:18.000 Yeah.
00:46:19.000 When MMA was illegal, there was like a bunch of loopholes that they were exploiting.
00:46:24.000 Because you couldn't fight MMA in California for a long time.
00:46:28.000 So they came up with all sorts of different ways of doing it.
00:46:31.000 They're like, oh, you have to throw seven kicks.
00:46:33.000 They didn't have that.
00:46:35.000 But they had slaps. 1.00
00:46:37.000 That was another thing that existed in Japan in the early days, the Pancre style.
00:46:41.000 Which is real weird to watch now.
00:46:45.000 Boss Rootin was the guy who figured out how to hack that though.
00:46:47.000 He hacked it.
00:46:48.000 Because he threw palms like punches. 0.99
00:46:51.000 Where everybody else was throwing bitch slaps. 0.99
00:46:52.000 Boss Rootin was knocking guys out with palm strikes. 0.99
00:46:55.000 Because he was throwing like palm uppercuts and palm hooks.
00:46:59.000 He figured out how to hack it. 1.00
00:47:01.000 That crazy fucker. 1.00
00:47:05.000 Kick to the liver. 1.00
00:47:07.000 The liver kick! 0.97
00:47:08.000 Yeah, he's another guy who paid the price physically.
00:47:13.000 His craziness and his madness in his pursuit, because he would talk about on the podcast how he would just shoot cortisone into his joints and his shins and just numb everything up.
00:47:25.000 And lidocaine, he'd shoot lidocaine into his shins.
00:47:29.000 Lidocaine?
00:47:29.000 Yeah, lidocaine's a numbing agent.
00:47:31.000 It's like the gay cousin of cocaine. 1.00
00:47:35.000 It doesn't get you high, but it just leaves you numb and confused. 1.00
00:47:38.000 Gay cousin of cocaine. 1.00
00:47:39.000 Yeah, I had lidocaine in my nose once when I had my nose operated on, and it's interesting. 0.97
00:47:45.000 It makes you feel weak and disoriented, but you're not drugged up.
00:47:50.000 You're like, something's wrong with me.
00:47:52.000 Like I could drive, I could walk, I could talk to people, but I'm like, I'm just not...
00:47:57.000 So he would inject it into his shins because he was injured or just because he wouldn't feel it when he kicked?
00:48:03.000 I'd have to ask Boss again, get the full story.
00:48:06.000 But I know injecting cortisone into all of his joints just wrecked him.
00:48:09.000 There's no cartilage in any of his joints.
00:48:12.000 His knees are completely shot.
00:48:14.000 It's all bone on bone.
00:48:15.000 He was actually going to get him resurfaced.
00:48:18.000 You ever seen when someone gets it resurfaced?
00:48:20.000 My friend Steve Graham had his knee done.
00:48:23.000 I'll show you a picture.
00:48:24.000 You're going to get grossed out.
00:48:26.000 He was on the Olympic ski team. 0.98
00:48:29.000 Yeah, why am I fucking aheming so much? 0.95
00:48:31.000 He was on the U.S. ski team, I should say. 0.95
00:48:33.000 I don't know.
00:48:33.000 He wasn't in the Olympics, but he was a top flight skier and had upwards of 20 operations on his knee.
00:48:44.000 Yeah, I'm not exaggerating.
00:48:47.000 And this is what his knees look like now.
00:48:51.000 They resurfaced the inside of his knee because he was bone on bone.
00:48:56.000 So they put steel caps over the joints.
00:49:00.000 So the way his tibia and fibula intersect with each other.
00:49:05.000 And then I'm assuming like they don't rust or...
00:49:08.000 No, it's stainless steel.
00:49:10.000 ...so that it'll slide over each other. 0.99
00:49:12.000 Yeah, and that white shit is like an artificial meniscus, like an artificial padding in between the steel. 0.99
00:49:19.000 How's it work? 1.00
00:49:20.000 Is it good?
00:49:20.000 He's happy?
00:49:23.000 It's all right, you know, I mean he's a crazy fucker. 1.00
00:49:26.000 He's in pain all the time But he's just one of those dudes Some people just know how to suck it up. 0.99
00:49:33.000 What did you have done to your knee?
00:49:34.000 I tore My MCL ripped my MCL like detached it from my shin and then that allowed my knee and I tore my ACL in half and then I partially tore my LCL, so there's like four tenons and you hold your knee like two of them were completely torn and then one of them was like pretty fucking close to being completely torn.
00:49:55.000 Wow, what happened there?
00:49:56.000 I took a fight on short notice and in Vegas we fought a Chinese guy and it was like the San Shao I didn't even know what San Shao was they were like they told me the rules like five minutes before the fight in the back backstage and I was throwing it went to throw a knee and as I was like standing on one foot and As I was standing on one foot,
00:50:17.000 throwing the knee, he kicked right under my knee, and it shifted so hard that it just ripped my... 0.74
00:50:23.000 blew everything out.
00:50:24.000 Oh, wow.
00:50:25.000 And then, uh...
00:50:27.000 Being the savage that I am, I took the eight count and stood up, and I was like...
00:50:32.000 I was trying to fight anyway.
00:50:34.000 And I'm like, oh, he's gonna kick my leg.
00:50:35.000 So I'm like, oh, I know what I'm gonna do.
00:50:37.000 So as he runs to kick my leg, I jump over it, like, ha-ha! 0.99
00:50:40.000 But I landed on the one that was already fucked. 1.00
00:50:43.000 Went out again. 0.99
00:50:44.000 And then, uh...
00:50:45.000 If it wasn't completely torn at that point, it definitely was after that.
00:50:49.000 But yeah, I did that.
00:50:51.000 And then that same fight, my other knee ended up getting a quarter-sized piece of cartilage torn out and was floating around in the joint.
00:50:59.000 It was a rough fight.
00:51:00.000 It was a rough thousand dollars back then, Joe.
00:51:02.000 A thousand bucks to fight.
00:51:04.000 I was out for a year. 1.00
00:51:07.000 God damn. 0.99
00:51:09.000 So I was out for a year and when I came back I just went on a terror. 0.99
00:51:12.000 I went on my belts.
00:51:14.000 I went like 10-0 I think after that.
00:51:17.000 Immediately after that.
00:51:19.000 What kind of surgery did they do?
00:51:20.000 They had to do cadavers and all that jazz?
00:51:22.000 Yeah, cadavers and scope.
00:51:25.000 I don't even have that.
00:51:25.000 You can't even tell if you look at my name.
00:51:26.000 It's not even scars.
00:51:28.000 That's amazing.
00:51:29.000 Dr. Mora in Orange, City of Orange, did an amazing job.
00:51:32.000 And he fought with the insurance company for me because they didn't want to do the cadaver thing.
00:51:38.000 What they do is they'll actually cut a sliver out of your patella or your hamstring or your patella tendon, which is the big fat tendon that goes down the front of your knee.
00:51:46.000 I had that done.
00:51:47.000 And they would cut a sliver out of that, take that piece, put it in your ACL, and then wait for that to scar over. 0.94
00:51:53.000 And I'm like, so I already have a weak knee, and you're gonna fucking take one of the only tendons I have left and make that one weak again? 0.91
00:52:00.000 I didn't go for it. 0.93
00:52:01.000 So we did the cadaver thing, which is crazy.
00:52:03.000 It's like a dead body part, obviously.
00:52:07.000 I guess once they put it in, your body mutates it and it takes a while to get soft again and then your body will take it on as its own.
00:52:15.000 Well, your body, it acts as a scaffolding.
00:52:17.000 It's not like the cadaver itself stays in your body.
00:52:21.000 Your body uses the tissue that the cadaver graft is on to sort of proliferate with its own cells.
00:52:29.000 So that's why they use an Achilles tendon because it's larger.
00:52:33.000 I had that done on my right knee.
00:52:35.000 It was way quicker recovery.
00:52:36.000 The left knee, I had both ACLs done.
00:52:39.000 The left knee, I did the patella thing.
00:52:41.000 Like, way back in...
00:52:42.000 I think it was 1993 or 4. So it was back in the day.
00:52:48.000 They didn't do the cadaver back then.
00:52:50.000 They only did the patella tendon graft.
00:52:51.000 Or they did, even worse, the hamstring.
00:52:53.000 Which is a real bad one.
00:52:55.000 Because then your hamstring has to recover.
00:52:57.000 And they just take a chunk out of your hamstring. 0.98
00:53:00.000 And then just fucking bolt it into place. 0.97
00:53:02.000 I think that has to, the same thing. 0.98
00:53:04.000 Your body has to proliferate it with cells and, you know, it has to make, you gotta make sure the blood supplies work in and it's a lot of work.
00:53:14.000 Now they can do like PRP and all this cool stuff. 0.95
00:53:16.000 You were talking about that orange shit last time I was here. 0.96
00:53:19.000 Oh, now they're doing stem cell treatments for a lot of people. 0.99
00:53:22.000 I know Daniel Cormier had that done.
00:53:23.000 He was really close to getting knee surgery, had some stem cells in it, and heals right up.
00:53:28.000 Heals right up.
00:53:29.000 It's just amazing.
00:53:30.000 What they're finding with stem cells is that it can take on The form, especially if they're doing it from women's placenta, like a woman who gets a cesarean section, they take a young girl who's getting a cesarean section, they take her placenta, and they take the stem cells out of that,
00:53:46.000 and they can inject it into various areas of your body, and it can become anything.
00:53:50.000 It can become a tendon, it could become a ligament, it could repair torn muscles.
00:53:55.000 It's really interesting what they're able to do.
00:53:57.000 But there's also some danger, apparently, especially if you go to Mexico.
00:54:01.000 Some dude went to a bunch of different places.
00:54:05.000 I think he went to like six different places to get stem cells because he had a back problem.
00:54:12.000 He started growing some weird tumor in his back that was like pressing on his spine and when they cut the tumor out they realized it was not his tissue that it was like someone else's tissue was growing in his body Like,
00:54:30.000 somebody...
00:54:30.000 Like, whoever's stem cell.
00:54:32.000 Yeah, he's, like, trying to get, like, uterus. 0.98
00:54:34.000 You got any uteruses laying around? 1.00
00:54:35.000 And they need some stem cells off of that. 0.99
00:54:36.000 And they're like, oh, yeah, give him that fucking tumor we took out of that guy. 0.98
00:54:40.000 It's a stem cell, right? 0.99
00:54:41.000 It'll work the same.
00:54:42.000 Well, if you're going to Russia or Mexico... 1.00
00:54:44.000 You get, like, a boil cut off, and they're like, oh, stupidness shit. 1.00
00:54:48.000 Oh, boy, stuff it in there. 1.00
00:54:49.000 I mean, I don't...
00:54:49.000 I'm obviously not a doctor, so I don't know exactly what they did.
00:54:54.000 In these other countries that they're trying to pass off as stem cells. 0.99
00:54:58.000 I mean, who knows what the fuck they injected this guy with. 0.95
00:55:01.000 But it used to be you'd have to go to foreign countries to get stem cell treatments. 0.98
00:55:06.000 Because, you know, they weren't exactly sure.
00:55:08.000 Apparently he helped this guy once, and then it started to go away.
00:55:11.000 Like, whatever benefit he was getting started going away.
00:55:13.000 And then he's like, I'm just going to go on a fucking mad tear all across the world and get stem cells.
00:55:18.000 Yeah. 0.96
00:55:20.000 Third World Stem Cell Tour.
00:55:21.000 I can't believe it didn't work out for him.
00:55:22.000 I don't know. 1.00
00:55:23.000 It's fucked. 1.00
00:55:24.000 They cut like a fucking, like a cod out of his back. 1.00
00:55:29.000 And then they probably, to fix that, they gave him like American stem cells and everything's good. 1.00
00:55:33.000 I think he's done.
00:55:34.000 I think homeboy's toast.
00:55:36.000 And he's definitely saying, I think his quote was, don't go in the future.
00:55:40.000 I would advise people strongly not to go with anecdotal evidence.
00:55:45.000 Solid advice right there.
00:55:48.000 But...
00:55:48.000 You know, it's helped me a lot.
00:55:51.000 My shoulder was pretty fucked and I got stem cells and it's fucking fantastic now. 0.96
00:55:56.000 Yeah, feels great. 0.98
00:55:57.000 I think it's a little sore sometimes after a hard workout, but I just ice it up and it's good to go.
00:56:01.000 Like all the strength is 100%.
00:56:03.000 They're doing it a lot on pro athletes now.
00:56:07.000 There's a lot of athletes that are getting it done.
00:56:09.000 Whereas, you know, there's very little way to get certain areas to heal without taking just massive amounts of time off or surgery.
00:56:17.000 You know, but...
00:56:19.000 When you're talking about your kind of injury, that's just par for the course, right?
00:56:23.000 With your business.
00:56:24.000 I mean, yeah.
00:56:26.000 Everything.
00:56:28.000 All of my joints hurt. 0.98
00:56:29.000 My elbows are sore as shit right now. 0.95
00:56:31.000 My knuckles hurt. 0.95
00:56:32.000 My hands hurt.
00:56:33.000 My chest still hurts from that last man standing tournament that I did a couple years ago.
00:56:37.000 My neck gets a...
00:56:38.000 Your chest still hurts?
00:56:39.000 You had a broken sternum, right?
00:56:41.000 Well, I don't know.
00:56:42.000 I guess it was like a...
00:56:43.000 Did you ever get an MRI? I got an MRI. I did injections.
00:56:45.000 I did all kinds of stuff.
00:56:47.000 I still have this...
00:56:50.000 It's like a hematoma that's in between the rib cartilage or something, and it swells out all the time.
00:56:55.000 It's still swollen.
00:56:56.000 There's like a golf ball right there. 0.97
00:56:58.000 But it would get so bad that it would swell up like a fucking tennis ball, and then that would pinch off all the nerves running down my arm. 0.99
00:57:07.000 Oh, terrific! 0.99
00:57:09.000 And the only way to fix that is probably to open you up like a fish Cut that out.
00:57:14.000 Hope it doesn't come back.
00:57:15.000 Ibuprofen on the daily.
00:57:17.000 Is that what you're taking?
00:57:18.000 Yep.
00:57:19.000 Pretty much all the time.
00:57:19.000 You know what, man?
00:57:20.000 I had a friend, or I have a friend, who's an ultramarathon runner.
00:57:25.000 And he was taking ibuprofen every morning, and he was also taking it at night.
00:57:28.000 He was taking 800 milligrams in the morning, 800 milligrams at night.
00:57:31.000 Sounds...
00:57:32.000 And then I had this woman on who's a doctor, Dr. Rhonda Patrick. 0.70
00:57:36.000 She's a clinical researcher, and she was talking about the dangers of non-steroidal anti-inflammatories.
00:57:41.000 They cause high blood pressure, they can cause strokes in some people, especially when you're using them on a daily basis.
00:57:46.000 She's like, there's a lot of people that are using non-steroidal anti-inflammatories, and actually there's a fucked up loop that's going on, and this is the loop.
00:57:55.000 When you take non-steroidal anti-inflammatories, it actually causes inflammation because it fucks with the gut flora in your body, especially if you take it on a regular basis, which in turn causes inflammation, which you're taking non-steroidal anti-inflammatories to deal with the inflammation.
00:58:11.000 So the pills that you're taking to deal with joint pain sometimes are causing joint pain.
00:58:17.000 And that's with my friend Cam Haynes.
00:58:19.000 He was running a half a marathon every day.
00:58:22.000 He still is.
00:58:23.000 Because he's gearing up for this Bigfoot 200 that's in August.
00:58:27.000 He's going to run 200 miles in 48 hours.
00:58:29.000 He ran 24 hours last weekend.
00:58:31.000 He ran 102 miles to gear up for it, too.
00:58:33.000 Unbelievable.
00:58:34.000 But he got off the ibuprofen after that podcast, and he goes, I've never felt better.
00:58:39.000 He goes, it's amazing.
00:58:40.000 All the aches and pains that I was taking ibuprofen for, they all went away.
00:58:44.000 So what does he take for them? 0.99
00:58:46.000 He's not taking shit. 0.99
00:58:47.000 He's not taking shit. 0.99
00:58:48.000 He's just eating healthy. 0.99
00:58:50.000 Oh, he's eating healthy.
00:58:54.000 How bad do you eat?
00:58:56.000 Not that bad.
00:58:57.000 Not that bad?
00:58:58.000 Come on, Joe.
00:58:59.000 Can we just stop with the cigarettes already?
00:59:00.000 Come on.
00:59:00.000 I tell you this because I love you, man.
00:59:02.000 I'm just trying to help you out.
00:59:03.000 No, I don't eat that bad. 0.99
00:59:04.000 I have a food prep sponsor that gives me really good shit. 0.99
00:59:09.000 Oh, that's right. 1.00
00:59:09.000 I saw that on your Instagram. 1.00
00:59:11.000 That looks super healthy.
00:59:13.000 You get all those pre-prep meals.
00:59:14.000 That makes it easy, huh?
00:59:15.000 Oh, it's so good.
00:59:16.000 It's hot sauce.
00:59:17.000 All I need.
00:59:18.000 A minute 45 in the microwave.
00:59:21.000 Nice.
00:59:22.000 So you get it like every week?
00:59:24.000 Oh yeah, during my fight camps he gives me like every week I'll go and pick him up.
00:59:28.000 How do people get a hold of this guy?
00:59:29.000 Is he on a website?
00:59:31.000 I get a hold of him through my Instagram or on Instagram.
00:59:34.000 It's Chef Raul.
00:59:36.000 Chef Raul.
00:59:37.000 No, The Meal Plan Man.
00:59:38.000 Look up The Meal Plan Man.
00:59:39.000 Chef Raul, The Meal Plan Man.
00:59:41.000 Chef Raul, The Meal Plan Man.
00:59:43.000 Yeah, there's a lot of those guys.
00:59:44.000 A lot of MMA fighters have those sponsors that do that.
00:59:48.000 God, that makes a big difference.
00:59:49.000 Oh, that's so good. 0.94
00:59:50.000 Healthy foods is so fucking important. 0.97
00:59:52.000 It's like, duh, of course. 0.98
00:59:54.000 But you really are what you eat, man.
00:59:57.000 I mean, it sounds so cliche. 0.99
00:59:59.000 We don't think about it because food tastes good, and you feel like, ah, what's it going to hurt if I have a fucking cookie? 0.99
01:00:04.000 Your body's made out of everything you put in it. 1.00
01:00:06.000 If you eat cookies all the time, you fuck, you become a cookie. 1.00
01:00:12.000 You become the product of all the bullshit, non-nutritional food that you stuff in your fat face. 1.00
01:00:18.000 He's got grass-fed beef and bison and fucking all the good stuff. 1.00
01:00:24.000 Nice. 0.99
01:00:24.000 That's nice. 0.99
01:00:25.000 Do you take supplements?
01:00:26.000 Do you take vitamins?
01:00:27.000 I take everything the Onnit sends me, so that's been good.
01:00:30.000 I'm addicted to AlphaBrain now. 0.80
01:00:32.000 If I don't take AlphaBrain, I'm just like, why am I so dumb today?
01:00:35.000 I took a bunch so I could be on here.
01:00:36.000 I never used to take it before workouts, but now I take it before workouts.
01:00:40.000 I've found that it's...
01:00:41.000 Because I always think, well, that doesn't have anything to do with mental energy.
01:00:44.000 But it has a lot to do, especially when you're fatigued.
01:00:47.000 Mental energy...
01:00:48.000 I find that my workouts have more energy when I take AlphaBrain and I take ShroomTech together.
01:00:54.000 I stack them. 0.99
01:00:55.000 Aubrey said that's what all the pro athletes are doing, football players and shit. 0.99
01:00:59.000 They stack them. 0.97
01:01:00.000 There's a lot of good stuff today that you can find that really does help you.
01:01:07.000 Essential fatty acids are a big one.
01:01:11.000 I think that's almost non-negotiable.
01:01:13.000 I think you need essential fatty acids.
01:01:15.000 I think you need fish oils, a giant supplement.
01:01:18.000 I think it's so important.
01:01:19.000 So important for your joints.
01:01:20.000 It's important for your brain.
01:01:22.000 It's important for the development of healthy muscle.
01:01:25.000 So that fish oil makes a big difference to me.
01:01:28.000 And then also anti-inflammation stuff, like curcumin, I guess you say it?
01:01:33.000 Which comes from turmeric.
01:01:35.000 That's a big one, too.
01:01:37.000 You know, all these natural anti-inflammatories that are not bad for you.
01:01:42.000 Yeah, I could see the gut flora problem from the ibuprofen.
01:01:49.000 It's a big deal. 1.00
01:01:49.000 My fucking stomach's always fucked up. 1.00
01:01:50.000 Yeah, man. 1.00
01:01:51.000 It's bad for you.
01:01:52.000 I've been taking ibuprofen...
01:01:54.000 About 600 milligrams twice a day.
01:01:56.000 Oh, dude!
01:01:56.000 Since I can't remember.
01:01:57.000 Since I can't remember.
01:01:58.000 You gotta stop.
01:01:59.000 Can we get you to stop?
01:02:00.000 Can I get you to stop all these things?
01:02:02.000 Is it possible?
01:02:02.000 Can I help you?
01:02:03.000 Sure, man. 0.99
01:02:04.000 Make my body stop hurting and I'll fucking do it. 0.99
01:02:07.000 Well, how much time do you have off now between fights? 0.99
01:02:09.000 I probably got some time now.
01:02:11.000 Probably three or four months, I think.
01:02:13.000 So, do you have anything scheduled?
01:02:15.000 I think my next one's in September in Hungary, I think.
01:02:19.000 Okay, so they have something.
01:02:20.000 Is this a Bellator event as well?
01:02:22.000 Oh, so Bellator's going international.
01:02:24.000 Yes, sir.
01:02:24.000 How many international events have they had?
01:02:25.000 I know they had a London one, right?
01:02:27.000 They had the London one.
01:02:29.000 Their first Bellator kickboxing event was in Italy.
01:02:33.000 I watched it a couple months ago.
01:02:39.000 Then they have Hungary, and then in December is Florence.
01:02:42.000 Oh, nice.
01:02:43.000 Glory had fights all over the world, but I was always the American guy.
01:02:48.000 I was always the LA card or the American card.
01:02:50.000 It's really cool that Bellator is going to have me see the world a little bit.
01:02:54.000 That's beautiful.
01:02:55.000 You had a falling out with Glory, huh?
01:02:57.000 Yeah, we just went our separate ways. 0.99
01:03:00.000 But you were saying that they were telling the commentators to talk shit about you? 0.99
01:03:05.000 Is that a speculation? 0.99
01:03:10.000 Can't talk about it?
01:03:11.000 I think I was asked nicely not to talk about them anymore.
01:03:14.000 What did you think watching my fight with Glory?
01:03:18.000 Did you think the commentators were...
01:03:19.000 What was your opinion on that?
01:03:21.000 Well, see, commentating is interesting because being someone who's done it before, there are things that you see on television when you're watching it.
01:03:31.000 Honestly, the best view in the house is your house.
01:03:35.000 That's the best view.
01:03:36.000 When you're watching fights, because when you're watching kickboxing or whether you're watching MMA... When you're watching on television, you're seeing it, like, inside the cage and inside the ring, and you're seeing it from the right angle.
01:03:49.000 Like, there's a lot of times where I'm watching a fight, first of all, I have the best seat in the house.
01:03:53.000 You can't get any better.
01:03:54.000 I'm touching the actual ground that the people are fighting on.
01:03:58.000 It's in front of me.
01:03:58.000 There's a table, and then right in front of that, I can reach up and I can touch the cage, okay?
01:04:02.000 So you can't get any closer. 0.99
01:04:03.000 I miss a lot of shit, and I miss it. 0.97
01:04:05.000 Is there a screen for you to watch, too? 0.99
01:04:07.000 Just two screens.
01:04:07.000 But I like to watch the fight.
01:04:09.000 I want to watch the actual fight.
01:04:11.000 And when the fight is playing in front of me, it's like I'm looking up, and then I'm looking down at the screen.
01:04:16.000 I'm looking up, and then I'm looking down at the screen.
01:04:17.000 And sometimes I have to do commentary when I'm down at the screen.
01:04:19.000 But I want to watch the actual action playing out.
01:04:23.000 And when that is going on, sometimes you don't see everything.
01:04:27.000 But I feel like there's some subtleties that you see when you're looking at a guy.
01:04:32.000 There's some things that you see in movement where your brain...
01:04:35.000 I've got to think that all the years of...
01:04:38.000 Watching martial arts and doing martial arts my brains chunked a bunch of information and I see Certain traits and I see trends and I see things and you see them when you're actually looking at the person's body better than you do if you're looking at a monitor a video representation of it but Like,
01:04:56.000 there's sometimes the ref's in the way, and I don't see what's going on.
01:05:00.000 Like, the ref's here, and they're right behind the ref, and so I might miss something.
01:05:03.000 Or their back is to me, and they get hit with an uppercut, and you don't see what they get hit with.
01:05:07.000 There's a lot of times you miss a few things.
01:05:09.000 So, taking that into consideration...
01:05:13.000 I know that these guys were sitting ringside and they're watching it through the ropes and they're seeing it live and sometimes you don't catch anything.
01:05:18.000 But I did think that the commentary was a little one-sided.
01:05:22.000 And I did think that there was a lot of things that you were doing that they weren't either picking up on or they weren't giving you credit for.
01:05:30.000 And in all fairness, you told me about that before I saw the fight.
01:05:34.000 And so I saw the fight and I was watching.
01:05:36.000 I was like, wow, this is an interesting way they're talking about this fight.
01:05:40.000 You were right.
01:05:41.000 I mean, you put it in my head and then I watched it.
01:05:43.000 But I tried to be as objective as possible. 0.99
01:05:46.000 But yeah, I didn't think they were giving you credit for a lot of the shit you were doing. 0.98
01:05:49.000 I just thought that the way that I would... 0.99
01:05:53.000 That is possible, man.
01:05:54.000 No one's ever done that in the UFC. No one's ever come up to me and said, hey, hype this guy up, or hey, talk shit about this guy. 0.98
01:06:00.000 It's never happened, ever. 0.81
01:06:01.000 But that's the UFC. I could definitely see it possibly happening in other organizations.
01:06:07.000 Have you felt that?
01:06:09.000 I just thought that the way that I was talked about in general had changed dramatically in the last couple fights.
01:06:15.000 Well, that was what was weird.
01:06:16.000 Ariel Helwani came up to me and said the same thing last time I saw him.
01:06:19.000 I was like, Well, they sure talk about you really different, though.
01:06:23.000 Maybe Ariel had an inside mole. 0.99
01:06:24.000 Maybe had a mole inside fucking Gloria as well. 1.00
01:06:27.000 But, you know, it is what it is. 0.99
01:06:28.000 And, you know, Gloria is doing a lot for the sport in this country and worldwide.
01:06:34.000 They certainly are.
01:06:35.000 I wish them the best.
01:06:36.000 Yeah, and I do too.
01:06:37.000 I'm a big fan.
01:06:38.000 But, you know, they were doing weird shit like on your bio instead of all your accomplishments, 95 professional fights, all that. 0.84
01:06:45.000 No, it was like kicked out of his house when he was 17. Fucking loser. 1.00
01:06:49.000 You know, forced to go to four different high schools. 1.00
01:06:51.000 Everybody hated him.
01:06:52.000 His feet smell.
01:06:53.000 It was like a lot of...
01:06:56.000 It was like a rap sheet, you know?
01:06:59.000 They were definitely painting you out to be, but that's also, in their defense, I mean, they're trying to develop personalities for people to tune into. 0.98
01:07:07.000 You know, here's this guy who comes out with fucking prison pants on, with L.A. on them. 0.97
01:07:12.000 You know, it's, I guess... 0.98
01:07:14.000 I mean, why develop or promote the fact that he was the first American to ever win a global combat tournament, or a three-time world champion, or holds the record for the fastest knockout in combat sports?
01:07:24.000 You know, why promote any of those accomplishments?
01:07:26.000 No, that's not important.
01:07:27.000 I want to know how many times you kicked out of school.
01:07:29.000 Yeah.
01:07:29.000 Or how old you were when your mom kicked you out of that family home.
01:07:34.000 Yeah, that's what I want to hear about.
01:07:36.000 One of the odd jobs that you worked in your Tough Man contests.
01:07:39.000 Well, in Bellator's, not defense, but to their credit, they did a great job with that piece they did on you.
01:07:47.000 Yeah, I was really proud of that.
01:07:49.000 It was cool to...
01:07:51.000 When you're in it, you don't realize what you've actually done, but what I think I've been a part of with Can't Stop Crazy for the sport and the growth in the sport here in this country, from Lion Fight to Glory to now Bellator Kickboxing and being where I am...
01:08:08.000 The weight is on my shoulders, so to speak, with pushing this new brand and showing high-level kickboxing to the world and putting on exciting fights is proud. 0.99
01:08:17.000 Which is why we gotta get you off the fucking ibuprofen, get you off the cigarettes. 0.99
01:08:22.000 Trust me, the cigarettes, yeah. 1.00
01:08:24.000 The ibuprofen is like a necessity.
01:08:26.000 No, no, no, no, no.
01:08:27.000 You think it's a necessity.
01:08:28.000 You think it's a necessity. 0.93
01:08:29.000 I'm telling you, I think that there's a real possibility that the inflammation that's being caused by taking this stuff and fucking with your gut flora is actually making your joints hurt even more than they would have normally. 0.90
01:08:41.000 I think it's very possible.
01:08:44.000 Do you have the Onnit Total Gut Health?
01:08:47.000 Are you taking that yet?
01:08:49.000 I don't know.
01:08:50.000 It's probiotics.
01:08:51.000 It's a new...
01:08:51.000 I think I have the krill oil.
01:08:54.000 That's different.
01:08:55.000 That's good, too.
01:08:56.000 That's essential fatty acids.
01:08:58.000 Essentially, it's a more potent form of fish oil or a more bioavailable, a really good bioavailable form, I should say, because even regular fish oil is excellent.
01:09:08.000 This total gut health is different probiotics and enzymes that is really good for digesting food, the enzymes, and also absorbing nutrients through your food with the enzymes.
01:09:19.000 But the probiotic aspect of it is very important.
01:09:22.000 I've been big on probiotics lately.
01:09:24.000 I eat a lot of kimchi.
01:09:26.000 Do you like that stuff?
01:09:27.000 Like spicy Korean cabbage? 1.00
01:09:28.000 I love that shit. 1.00
01:09:29.000 I eat a lot of that. 1.00
01:09:30.000 I eat a lot of raw sauerkraut.
01:09:32.000 I've been eating a lot of that.
01:09:33.000 I drink a lot of kombucha.
01:09:34.000 That's good, too.
01:09:35.000 That's real good.
01:09:36.000 Yeah, I love that stuff.
01:09:38.000 I love that GT's kombucha, the stuff that you have to have an ID to buy. 0.99
01:09:44.000 We have that shit here, Jamie? 0.99
01:09:45.000 We have some? 1.00
01:09:46.000 Bust out two bottles from me and Joe Schilling, would you?
01:09:50.000 But this stuff is more than one half of 1% alcohol, so you have to have a license, a driver's license.
01:09:57.000 It has to show you're 21 to drink kombucha. 0.88
01:09:59.000 Which is ridiculous. 1.00
01:10:00.000 Stupid. 1.00
01:10:01.000 I also buy this stuff at Air One. 1.00
01:10:03.000 You take a shot of it every day. 0.99
01:10:05.000 It's like super fucking fermented cabbage with cayenne pepper in it. 0.99
01:10:10.000 It's like... 0.99
01:10:11.000 You take it, it's like...
01:10:12.000 But it's super good.
01:10:14.000 How is it, Joe?
01:10:17.000 And kefir.
01:10:18.000 I've been drinking a lot of kefir.
01:10:19.000 I drink a big glass of that a day.
01:10:21.000 Kefir.
01:10:22.000 Yeah.
01:10:22.000 Goat's milk.
01:10:23.000 I take goat's milk kefir, which is like a super powerful form of acidophilus, like cultures. 0.99
01:10:30.000 But what I've found over the last year, year and a half from...
01:10:35.000 Oh, yeah.
01:10:36.000 Look at that.
01:10:37.000 It's like we're drinking beers here.
01:10:39.000 This is my favorite flavor.
01:10:41.000 This is gingerade.
01:10:42.000 Is that what it is?
01:10:43.000 That's what it's called.
01:10:44.000 Yeah.
01:10:45.000 Gingerade.
01:10:46.000 Gingerade.
01:10:46.000 Yeah.
01:10:47.000 Organic Raw GT's Classic.
01:10:50.000 You gotta get the Classic.
01:10:51.000 The Classic has the black label. 0.99
01:10:53.000 The black label is to let you know it's fucking dangerous. 0.99
01:10:56.000 It's one half of one percent alcohol. 0.99
01:11:00.000 Watch out now.
01:11:00.000 Watch out now.
01:11:00.000 Cheers.
01:11:01.000 Cheers, buddy.
01:11:02.000 I love this stuff.
01:11:06.000 But anyway, gut health.
01:11:09.000 Probiotics.
01:11:10.000 It's everything, man.
01:11:11.000 So important.
01:11:12.000 So important for your immune system.
01:11:14.000 So important for everything.
01:11:16.000 It's even your mood.
01:11:17.000 They think your personality is partially shaped by your gut floor.
01:11:20.000 I love that new mood.
01:11:21.000 That's great, too.
01:11:22.000 I take that stuff a lot.
01:11:23.000 Yeah.
01:11:24.000 And, you know, just 5-HTP, folks.
01:11:27.000 I mean, that's what it is.
01:11:27.000 5-HTP. But, you know, New Mood has L-tryptophan also, which converts to 5-HTP, which converts to serotonin.
01:11:35.000 So you get sort of a time-release method, a time-release effect.
01:11:38.000 But all that stuff is very good for your brain.
01:11:40.000 They're all the building blocks for human neurotransmitters.
01:11:43.000 That's what AlphaBrain is.
01:11:45.000 That's what New Mood is.
01:11:46.000 But New Mood specifically is the building blocks for serotonin.
01:11:50.000 Right.
01:11:50.000 All that stuff's legit.
01:11:51.000 They even tell people that are on SSRIs to not take 5-HTP. What's SSRI? Serotonin uptake re-inhibitors.
01:12:01.000 Antidepressants.
01:12:02.000 You know, things like...
01:12:03.000 Tell them not to take 5-HTP? They tell them not to take it, because then you can get what's called serotonin syndrome, where your body has too much serotonin in it.
01:12:11.000 Sort of like when guys are on steroids and they get...
01:12:15.000 Same thing. 0.99
01:12:16.000 It's like your body's like, what is all this fucking serotonin doing in here? 0.98
01:12:20.000 It creates an imbalance. 0.98
01:12:22.000 They just don't work with each other well.
01:12:25.000 Neil Brennan, a friend of mine who's a comic, was the first guy that I ever met that was on 5-HTP. And then when he got on SSRIs, they told him to get off the 5-HTP. Like, there's too much going on here.
01:12:38.000 Oh, so the antidepressants, that's what they do is they create serotonin?
01:12:42.000 I do.
01:12:43.000 Well, it helps it.
01:12:44.000 It helps your body establish a better mood, and I don't know exactly what the...
01:12:50.000 It's been described to me, but I can't really recite it off memory, but serotonin obviously is a big factor in the way you feel.
01:12:59.000 Oh, yeah.
01:12:59.000 For sure.
01:13:00.000 And taking things like new mood, you know, especially like athletes like you, Fighters, you're constantly draining yourself.
01:13:07.000 I mean, you are just, I mean, I've seen your workouts, dude.
01:13:10.000 You just fucking empty it all out, and your body's just like... 0.94
01:13:12.000 It's done. 0.99
01:13:14.000 And then you have to re-gear up, so your body has to produce everything again.
01:13:18.000 Your endocrine system is taxed, everything is taxed, and you have to get all the right food in it. 0.96
01:13:23.000 That's why fucking with any of that, like... 0.99
01:13:26.000 Taking the ibuprofen, fucking cigarettes, shitty food, all that stuff is a massive effect on someone who does something that you do. 1.00
01:13:35.000 You need every edge you can get, man. 1.00
01:13:38.000 You're in the craziest business that you can be when it comes to professional athletics.
01:13:43.000 You're in the combat sports business.
01:13:44.000 You're in the business...
01:13:46.000 Arguably the craziest of the combat sports because it's all just throwing bones, man.
01:13:51.000 There's no wrestling.
01:13:52.000 There's no take. 0.99
01:13:52.000 There's no fucking lay and pray. 0.99
01:13:54.000 There's no humping someone on the ground and holding them down and noogieing them in the head. 0.99
01:13:57.000 You can't do any of that. 0.78
01:13:58.000 You got to throw bones.
01:14:00.000 You know, that's a wild way to make a living.
01:14:02.000 You need all the advantages, all of them.
01:14:05.000 I know you were working with Nick Kurson for a while.
01:14:07.000 Yep.
01:14:08.000 Are you going to do that again?
01:14:11.000 I didn't work with him this last week.
01:14:13.000 He was with Brevonikoff and he was just really busy.
01:14:19.000 Lately I've been, you know, four week notice my camps have been really short for both my last two fights.
01:14:24.000 So I just hadn't had a chance to work with him.
01:14:25.000 I worked with him like two or three times for this last fight.
01:14:29.000 But yeah, the guy's amazing.
01:14:30.000 I can't say enough good things about him. 1.00
01:14:32.000 Yeah, he's a bad motherfucker. 1.00
01:14:34.000 Fucking awesome. 1.00
01:14:34.000 Fucking awesome. 1.00
01:14:35.000 He knows so much too. 0.98
01:14:37.000 Just so different, you know?
01:14:38.000 Like when I used to train and do like strength conditioning and working about all that stuff, it was like about how hard you worked.
01:14:43.000 And every day it was, you know... 0.99
01:14:45.000 I've never had a session with Nick where I left and I was like, oh fuck. 0.98
01:14:49.000 They were always hard and difficult, but they were never breaking me down. 0.93
01:14:55.000 The results and the increase every week was really noticeable and impressive.
01:15:01.000 Yeah, that's the intelligent approach, and that's the approach that a lot of trainers are using now, is they're giving you enough work so that your body improves and recovers, but not so much that your body can't improve. 0.99
01:15:12.000 So this old stupid idea that a lot of us have, and I used to have, you gotta get out of there like you fucking, you can barely walk. 0.98
01:15:21.000 You gotta leave it all in the gym. 1.00
01:15:23.000 But that doesn't give you a chance to recover.
01:15:25.000 Right, and then like rest days, like... 0.95
01:15:29.000 I used to just crush myself on Monday, and then the rest of the week I'd be dragging ass trying to make it.
01:15:34.000 By the time Friday I rolled around, it was like, now your last three workouts of the week weren't that productive, you know what I mean?
01:15:39.000 Yeah.
01:15:40.000 Well, I've been really into that a lot lately because I started listening to Pavel Tatsulin.
01:15:46.000 He's the guy that brought kettlebells to America.
01:15:50.000 Badass Russian dude and he has some really interesting ideas about strength and conditioning and one of the things that's that he said that I think is most important is That the way you're training and especially training with kettlebells in particular What you what you're trying to do is you're trying to give your body work so that your body feels like Like, 0.88
01:16:14.000 it can recover and you slowly build upon these things and think of them as a skill.
01:16:22.000 Like, he's like, strength is a skill.
01:16:24.000 And you're not trying to leave yourself completely exhausted and blown out and all your joints are fried and all your muscles are just rubber.
01:16:33.000 Like you're trying to what he calls grease the groove, which means like slowly build this up and do it like instead instead of sets of like 25 reps like CrossFit style. 0.97
01:16:43.000 He's like everything more than five reps is bullshit. 0.94
01:16:46.000 He's like everything more than five reps is bodybuilding. 0.98
01:16:49.000 He's like you should be doing like Heavyweight, five reps.
01:16:53.000 And if you can do ten reps, do five.
01:16:55.000 You don't need to work to failure.
01:16:58.000 He doesn't believe in working to failure.
01:17:00.000 I'm doing a bad job of explaining his philosophies, but Tim Ferriss had two podcasts with him where you can listen to it.
01:17:08.000 I'll send them to you.
01:17:08.000 They're excellent.
01:17:09.000 I think that's kind of similar to the way Nick, at least the way that I see Nick's training.
01:17:12.000 It's like trying to send a neurological signal to my body to grow or to change or to move.
01:17:18.000 I don't need to destroy it to do that.
01:17:20.000 I don't need to break down my muscle and it has to rebuild itself.
01:17:23.000 It's like altitude training.
01:17:25.000 When you go to high altitude, your body has...
01:17:27.000 Picks up a signal that there's not enough oxygen in this air, I need to make more red blood cells.
01:17:32.000 So your body sends a neurological signal to create more red blood cells from your blood marrow or whatever.
01:17:38.000 So your body's like a computer and you're just trying to get, okay, I want to be a little faster, I want to be a little whatever, and I'm doing enough work to send that signal to make my body adapt.
01:17:47.000 You know what I mean?
01:17:48.000 As opposed to, I want to be faster, so I'm going to just destroy my legs until I can't walk for a week, and then it's going to build back faster.
01:17:54.000 I mean, that does work.
01:17:56.000 It does, obviously.
01:17:57.000 But it doesn't work good.
01:17:58.000 It doesn't work the right way.
01:17:59.000 The right way to do it really is to, like, and I've been getting great results with Pavel's methods with doing lighter, or not lighter weights, but Lower reps.
01:18:10.000 Lower reps and, like, if I could do eight or nine reps, I do five.
01:18:14.000 I do five and I end it there.
01:18:15.000 And, like, when I'm done, I feel good.
01:18:18.000 Like, I'm done with my workout.
01:18:19.000 I know I put in, you know, 45 minutes or more of hard work, but I don't feel, like, broken down. 0.89
01:18:25.000 Whereas before, when I was, like, sort of structuring it off of my own ideas, I would just have these fucking brutal workouts where I would just... 0.59
01:18:33.000 Everything was to failure. 0.75
01:18:35.000 Everything was...
01:18:37.000 Right.
01:18:38.000 And then when it was over, I just felt like a zombie for the rest of the day. 0.89
01:18:41.000 Yeah, and then now your serotonin levels, by the time you're three days in, I'm like, fuck, I need some new mood, because I don't feel like I want to do this shit anymore, and you're not going to perform as well, and you're not going to, you know... 0.98
01:18:50.000 Caffeine. 0.99
01:18:50.000 It's all a big thing, yeah. 0.99
01:18:51.000 I was chugging 20-ounce Starbucks like there was nothing.
01:18:55.000 I'd go to sleep.
01:18:56.000 I could take a 20-ounce Starbucks and...
01:18:58.000 It doesn't work anymore.
01:19:00.000 It doesn't do anything!
01:19:01.000 Yeah, you can get to the point where your body is just, it doesn't matter.
01:19:05.000 Stimulants, whatever.
01:19:06.000 You just toast.
01:19:09.000 Yeah, there's a lot of science to athletics, to sports training with athletes today that just didn't exist 10, 20 years ago, and take advantage of that.
01:19:20.000 Meat and water, right?
01:19:20.000 You had to drink lots of water, eat lots of red meat.
01:19:22.000 That was your supplement base, you know? 0.99
01:19:25.000 Yeah, nobody knew shit. 0.98
01:19:27.000 I mean... 0.99
01:19:27.000 Meat and iron. 0.99
01:19:28.000 Well, yeah, nobody knew anything about, like, what's the proper way to eat?
01:19:32.000 When should you eat?
01:19:33.000 Should you eat five times a day?
01:19:34.000 Should you...
01:19:35.000 There was this warrior diet craze where people were like, you only eat one meal a day, because that's what a warrior did.
01:19:41.000 They would only eat once a day.
01:19:42.000 Like, um, you're not a warrior.
01:19:44.000 You're not a Viking. 1.00
01:19:45.000 Like, you're not a fucking barbarian. 1.00
01:19:47.000 Like, look, you got a refrigerator. 0.99
01:19:48.000 It's right there. 1.00
01:19:49.000 Have something to eat, you fuck. 1.00
01:19:51.000 Like, what are you... 1.00
01:19:54.000 It's weird because it's... 1.00
01:19:55.000 You fucking... 0.99
01:19:56.000 What was it? 1.00
01:19:56.000 Cuck? 1.00
01:19:57.000 You fucking cuck? 1.00
01:19:58.000 You goddamn cucker? 1.00
01:19:58.000 You eat a fucking steak. 1.00
01:20:00.000 We need to come up with our own insult. 1.00
01:20:01.000 Come up with a name that you can call certain types of people.
01:20:05.000 We'll work on that.
01:20:06.000 That's for another time.
01:20:07.000 But it's interesting that nutritional advice that people would give you just 10 years ago isn't valid anymore.
01:20:13.000 Oh, yeah.
01:20:13.000 You know, the ideas of absorption of certain fats and essential fatty acids that they had, especially plant-based stuff, just a few years ago.
01:20:21.000 They're realizing, like, yeah, this stuff exists in these plant forms, but it's not as bioavailable as it is in animal forms.
01:20:29.000 And this is, like, really recent stuff. 0.98
01:20:31.000 Like the food pyramid shit, you know? 0.99
01:20:33.000 Like, it's just... 1.00
01:20:35.000 I was talking about that yesterday.
01:20:36.000 Margarine and then butter.
01:20:37.000 I can't believe it's not butter, but now it's not butter. 0.99
01:20:40.000 Margarine's fucking terrible for you. 1.00
01:20:41.000 It's plastic. 1.00
01:20:42.000 It's one molecule away from plastic.
01:20:44.000 That's what they were telling people to do.
01:20:46.000 The food pyramid said that you should have like 300 grams of carbohydrates a day.
01:20:50.000 Yeah, you're supposed to eat bread and pasta.
01:20:52.000 Now they're saying, no, no, no, no, no.
01:20:53.000 I was reading...
01:20:55.000 And then, like, you get... 1.00
01:20:56.000 Ugh, this is so stupid. 1.00
01:20:58.000 Cancer. 1.00
01:20:58.000 Like, oh, have you cut out all of the shit that they've been telling you since you were a child that you were supposed to have? 1.00
01:21:03.000 Which the food pyramid was based around the economy. 0.99
01:21:07.000 They need people to buy the fucking oats and grains that we grow here. 0.99
01:21:12.000 You know what I mean? 1.00
01:21:13.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that.
01:21:15.000 I mean, it certainly must have some influence, especially with corn subsidies and all that jazz.
01:21:22.000 Did you ever see that movie King Corn?
01:21:23.000 No.
01:21:24.000 Dude, watch that documentary.
01:21:26.000 It's crazy.
01:21:27.000 It's about how much corn we eat and how corn is subsidized, how they pay people to grow corn.
01:21:32.000 The government pays farmers to grow corn. 0.98
01:21:35.000 If the government didn't subsidize corn production in this company, corn agriculture would fucking collapse. 0.95
01:21:41.000 There's so many of these people that are reliant, these agricultural farms that are growing corn, reliant on government subsidies in order to stay afloat. 0.96
01:21:50.000 It's weird, and corn's in everything.
01:21:52.000 I was having beef jerky the other day, and my wife was reading the ingredients.
01:21:57.000 She goes, you know this has corn in it?
01:21:59.000 I went, what? 0.99
01:22:00.000 Corn syrup is like fucking everything, right? 0.99
01:22:02.000 Corn protein. 1.00
01:22:03.000 Corn protein in fucking beef jerky. 1.00
01:22:07.000 Fucking corn heads. 1.00
01:22:08.000 That's a new one. 1.00
01:22:09.000 Corn heads.
01:22:12.000 No, it's not gonna work.
01:22:15.000 But corn protein and beef jerky.
01:22:18.000 Isn't beef the protein that you think would be in the beef jerky? 0.91
01:22:22.000 Well, it must have something to do with the flavoring or something to do with the sauce that they, you know, they marinate them in teriyaki or whatever the fuck they do when they make it.
01:22:30.000 But there was corn protein in beef jerky.
01:22:35.000 How about just beef jerky?
01:22:36.000 I've seen it all now, Joe.
01:22:37.000 I have seen it all, too.
01:22:39.000 So what's the plan now?
01:22:42.000 When you come off of a fight like that, what do you do?
01:22:44.000 Just chillax for a little bit?
01:22:46.000 Yeah, I had two back-to-back fights anyway, and I'm looking forward to having a little time off, relaxing a little bit, getting my mind wrapped around what happened, why it happened, where I go from here.
01:22:58.000 Do you move around your training camps at all?
01:23:00.000 Do you bring in new trainers?
01:23:01.000 Do you ever go to places and spend a little bit of time working with someone different?
01:23:05.000 No, I'm sure I'll be up in Stockton a lot, hoping Nate get ready for his fight with Connor now.
01:23:11.000 It's always good to work with those guys.
01:23:13.000 I want to get some boxing rounds in with Richard Perez while I'm up there.
01:23:16.000 Nice.
01:23:18.000 Not a lot, you know.
01:23:19.000 I think my team is really solid, and I think that's where I need to be.
01:23:24.000 I was at American Top Team before, well, when Saki Koff knocked me out the first time, I was at American Top Team working on my wrestling and stuff, and it was a cool experience.
01:23:33.000 I don't think it was the best experience for me.
01:23:35.000 Just being away from my sports system and my coaches and my team, and I think that was a mistake to jump ship, so to speak, and go train someplace else.
01:23:45.000 Yeah, it seems to me that there's a lot of comforts of home that help relax you and just being in the same environment all the time is probably real good for you in terms of like your comfort level, recovery, and being in your own home.
01:23:58.000 Yeah, and I think just your coaches and being with somebody that's trained you for 10 years and he knows what you're thinking, you know what he thinks.
01:24:03.000 He knows how you are, what you need to hear, how hard to work you, things like that, you know?
01:24:07.000 Right.
01:24:08.000 Knows when you're tired, when you're off.
01:24:09.000 They have a good understanding of you.
01:24:11.000 Yeah, and I like the fact that you've gone away from the MMA and decided to go straight back to kickboxing.
01:24:17.000 Because, you know, what are you, 32 now?
01:24:19.000 Yeah.
01:24:19.000 Yeah, I mean, it's just like...
01:24:21.000 It's not...
01:24:21.000 You're so good at kickboxing.
01:24:23.000 It's such a...
01:24:24.000 You know, it's such an emerging sport, too.
01:24:26.000 And with this opportunity with Bellator, too, I think it's a really good idea. 0.57
01:24:30.000 Because, like, learning all the wrestling and learning all the fucking submissions and takedown defense and all that stuff just... 0.88
01:24:38.000 It's a whole other experience. 0.98
01:24:39.000 It's a whole other journey to get on.
01:24:42.000 Yeah.
01:24:43.000 I think it's too late for that.
01:24:44.000 It'd be like if I went into a boxing career now.
01:24:47.000 You know what I mean?
01:24:47.000 Right.
01:24:48.000 You can throw and you can take some shots, but you don't have 150 amateur boxing fights.
01:24:54.000 You know what I mean?
01:24:54.000 Right.
01:24:54.000 You're not going to catch up.
01:24:56.000 Right, and your body's programmed to do certain things already.
01:24:59.000 Like, your body's programmed for certain distances. 0.81
01:25:02.000 Like, your body's like, kick him! 0.52
01:25:04.000 Oh, you can't kick him.
01:25:05.000 That's one of my problems with MMA, was that my body has been programmed that when we're in...
01:25:09.000 When we get close, and we're in a clinch, so to speak, I pull you into the clinch, I get to that.
01:25:14.000 When I do that in MMA, I pull you right in, I get taken down.
01:25:18.000 It's so hard for me to think, to push away, to stop this, because everything I've done for the last...
01:25:26.000 17 years of my life has been.
01:25:28.000 Yeah.
01:25:29.000 Yeah.
01:25:30.000 Now, have you worked with...
01:25:31.000 What is your trainer's name again?
01:25:33.000 The Japanese dude? 1.00
01:25:34.000 Mark Kimura.
01:25:35.000 He seems like a really interesting guy.
01:25:37.000 He's a real cool dude.
01:25:38.000 And you've been with him for...
01:25:41.000 10 years, 11 years.
01:25:43.000 What's his background?
01:25:44.000 He's done almost every martial art, I think.
01:25:48.000 He did a keto for a while, and the guy was like, you know, you have to come at me like this.
01:25:53.000 He's like, oh, what if I do this?
01:25:54.000 Like, no, no, no, it has to be like that. 1.00
01:25:55.000 He's like, oh, fuck this bullshit. 1.00
01:25:57.000 But he did boxing and kickboxing. 1.00
01:25:59.000 He was one of the first promoters here in California for Muay Thai.
01:26:04.000 When they used to have the old shows at Hollywood Park was Voot Promotions.
01:26:07.000 I like to meet that guy.
01:26:09.000 He seems like a very wise guy.
01:26:10.000 Very knowledgeable guy.
01:26:11.000 He's a real good dude.
01:26:13.000 But have you had much experience besides American Top Team working with different kickboxing trainers or is there anybody that you would really enjoy working with?
01:26:23.000 No, I haven't had a lot of experience outside of working with ATT. Even ATT was mostly, I just worked at my wrestling.
01:26:29.000 Wrestling, wrestling, wrestling.
01:26:31.000 I haven't worked with a whole lot of other kickboxing trainers.
01:26:34.000 Do you think there's benefit in that?
01:26:36.000 In trying out, you know, different people, just having some sessions with some different people just to see if you can pick up a few things?
01:26:42.000 Oh, absolutely.
01:26:42.000 You know, like a Rob Kamen or something like that?
01:26:44.000 Yeah, I know Rob Kamen.
01:26:46.000 He's a buddy of mine, but we haven't worked together yet.
01:26:48.000 God, you gotta work with him, man.
01:26:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:26:51.000 Yeah, I mean, Anthony Hardonk's around here too.
01:26:54.000 You ever train with him?
01:26:55.000 I'll set it up.
01:26:56.000 Smart guy.
01:26:57.000 He's another guy I think he could probably help you. 1.00
01:26:59.000 He knows a lot of shit. 0.99
01:27:01.000 I just think, you know, for a guy like you at your level, like any little variables that you could pick up from any of these guys is probably a good thing. 1.00
01:27:08.000 There's just so much good knowledge.
01:27:10.000 And Southern California in particular is such an amazing place for just all martial arts.
01:27:16.000 I mean, we're like in one of the...
01:27:18.000 I mean, as far as the United States, this is one of the meccas.
01:27:21.000 Henry Hoof.
01:27:22.000 I'd love to work with him.
01:27:24.000 We always see each other at the fights and know each other well.
01:27:27.000 Great guy.
01:27:28.000 Never had an opportunity to work with him.
01:27:29.000 He's done wonders.
01:27:30.000 He's out here a lot, actually.
01:27:31.000 I think he's been in Northern California quite a bit.
01:27:34.000 Is he?
01:27:34.000 He was at AKA for a while, I think.
01:27:36.000 What's he doing up there?
01:27:37.000 I'm not sure.
01:27:38.000 I think that he was working with Luke for the last fight, and I think that he might be moving out this way.
01:27:43.000 Oh, really?
01:27:44.000 From what I heard, yeah.
01:27:45.000 Interesting.
01:27:45.000 I don't know how long that Black Sillians is doing.
01:27:49.000 Yeah, isn't there like some...
01:27:51.000 Didn't the owner just declare bankruptcy or something along those lines?
01:27:57.000 I think that's what I heard.
01:27:58.000 That's not good.
01:28:00.000 I don't know.
01:28:00.000 Yeah.
01:28:00.000 Because that owner owned Jocko, probably, too, at one point.
01:28:05.000 Yeah, I think.
01:28:06.000 I don't know.
01:28:08.000 I don't know enough about this to probably talk about it.
01:28:11.000 I don't either.
01:28:12.000 I mean, I know Dan Lambert very well, the guy who owns American Top Team, and that's as legit as it gets.
01:28:18.000 He's the best.
01:28:19.000 Such a great dude.
01:28:20.000 I love that guy.
01:28:20.000 He treated me like a superstar when I was there.
01:28:22.000 Dan Lambert is awesome. 0.95
01:28:23.000 No, he is a fucking amazing dude and so important for the growth and development of MMA. I mean, what he's done with American Top Team and putting together this world-class facility. 0.97
01:28:33.000 By the way, spending millions of dollars to do it.
01:28:37.000 Just throwing money at that and having guys take advantage of that.
01:28:42.000 And he had guys rip him off.
01:28:43.000 He had a lot of really shitty things happen.
01:28:46.000 And then when the Black Zillions came around, a lot of guys bailed because that guy paid them. 0.89
01:28:51.000 He paid people, like, come on over to me, I'll give you money.
01:28:53.000 And, you know, he just sort of poached a bunch of people, allegedly, according to Dan.
01:28:58.000 Yeah, that was the story.
01:29:00.000 That was the story.
01:29:01.000 So, who knows? 0.98
01:29:02.000 Who knows what the fuck happened? 0.88
01:29:03.000 But, at the end of the day, a guy like Dan Lambert's super important. 0.94
01:29:06.000 You need, like, these wealthy benefactors who take these chances and put together these facilities.
01:29:10.000 But, in my opinion, no one's done it like Dan has.
01:29:12.000 They just built a new facility out there.
01:29:14.000 I saw some pictures online.
01:29:17.000 Looks crazy.
01:29:18.000 It's crazy.
01:29:18.000 It's got apartments.
01:29:19.000 Yeah.
01:29:20.000 A huge warehouse building.
01:29:21.000 That seems to be like the thing going on now is a lot of people are building like dorms at their camps now.
01:29:26.000 Yeah.
01:29:26.000 Which makes a lot of sense because so many guys are bouncing around.
01:29:29.000 Sure.
01:29:29.000 You know, they come from out of town to go train and Greg Jackson's building one like that.
01:29:34.000 Yeah, Greg Jackson. 1.00
01:29:35.000 Cowboy said he has a bad motherfucker ranch. 0.99
01:29:37.000 I'm going to get out there pretty soon. 0.99
01:29:39.000 Cowboy, man, Cowboy's good, dude.
01:29:41.000 How good did Cowboy look against Cote? 1.00
01:29:43.000 Holy shit. 1.00
01:29:44.000 He was fucking screaming at the TV. He looked fucking awesome. 1.00
01:29:46.000 Sensational. 0.98
01:29:47.000 At 170, he looks goddamn sensational. 0.91
01:29:50.000 I mean, it's like everything came together at 170. And Cote's a beast, man. 0.98
01:29:56.000 Nobody's ever worked Cote over the way Cowboy did.
01:29:58.000 And Cote has fought at like 205 before, too, right?
01:30:01.000 His first fight, he was saying that...
01:30:04.000 At 170, the guy was also like a 155-er coming up, but it was like a new weight, right?
01:30:09.000 What was his first?
01:30:10.000 Oh, Cowboy's first fight?
01:30:12.000 Yeah, but it was a big dude.
01:30:14.000 That was that other Cowboy dude.
01:30:17.000 But that guy's big.
01:30:18.000 He's a big fella.
01:30:19.000 He was bigger than Cowboy, but Cowboy caught him in a triangle.
01:30:21.000 But he just looked great.
01:30:22.000 But like, Kofi fought at like 185. His first fight was at 205. He dropped Tito Ortiz.
01:30:28.000 This was way back in the day.
01:30:29.000 When Tito was a light heavyweight champ, I believe.
01:30:32.000 And I think Tito was either a champ or...
01:30:36.000 I mean, Tito was in his prime.
01:30:38.000 And he lost to Tito at light heavyweight and then went down to 185, fought Anderson Silva.
01:30:43.000 He was doing a very smart fight.
01:30:46.000 He fought a very smart fight against Anderson, where he was making Anderson lead.
01:30:50.000 And Anderson's really a counter guy.
01:30:52.000 And he was just sort of laying back, and Anderson didn't like it.
01:30:55.000 Anderson does not like it.
01:30:56.000 Is that when he had a weird knee popped or something?
01:30:58.000 His knee blew out.
01:30:59.000 Yeah, he lifted his leg up to throw a kick and his knee just buckled and caved in on him. 1.00
01:31:03.000 That shit happens sometimes. 0.99
01:31:05.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
01:31:05.000 Weird freak shit like that happens a lot in the sport. 1.00
01:31:08.000 Well, sure, and there's also injuries you get in the second and third round that you don't even know what... 0.96
01:31:12.000 You felt your knee pop, you're not exactly sure what it is, and you're still standing on it and everything seems fine, and then you throw a kick and it just gives out.
01:31:20.000 There's that.
01:31:21.000 But the point is, Cote is a stud. 1.00
01:31:24.000 He's a tough fucking guy. 0.99
01:31:25.000 And to have Cowboy work him like that, I was like, woo! 1.00
01:31:29.000 He looked like a ninja. 0.97
01:31:31.000 Cowboy looked fucking awesome. 0.99
01:31:32.000 He looked like Terminator that night. 0.99
01:31:33.000 He looked fucking awesome. 0.98
01:31:35.000 He was really fucking happy for me. 0.96
01:31:36.000 Like a legit world champion. 0.98
01:31:39.000 Yeah, I hope he can keep that together.
01:31:40.000 I really do.
01:31:41.000 I think 170, I think these guys that are fucking depleting themselves so badly to cut weight, I think that's gonna be a thing of the past. 0.95
01:31:49.000 I really do. 0.95
01:31:49.000 I think people are gonna realize, like, this is not, the benefit that you get in that is negligible. 0.95
01:31:55.000 Cowboys weigh in like 176, somewhere around that, and he's cutting just a little bit of weight and making 170 easy.
01:32:03.000 Yeah, I think he was like four or five pounds off when he came.
01:32:06.000 He was here.
01:32:08.000 We sparred a couple weeks before the fight.
01:32:09.000 It was like 14 days out and he was like five pounds.
01:32:12.000 We were out to eat.
01:32:13.000 We were eating whatever we wanted.
01:32:14.000 That's nice.
01:32:16.000 Drinking beer. 1.00
01:32:17.000 He's so fucking ridiculous with that. 1.00
01:32:19.000 He drinks beer up until the day of the weigh-ins. 1.00
01:32:21.000 Yeah.
01:32:23.000 That can't be good.
01:32:25.000 Right?
01:32:25.000 Nah.
01:32:26.000 Why?
01:32:27.000 Well, a little bit of beer is probably okay.
01:32:29.000 Well, Bas Rutten said that.
01:32:30.000 He said he used to drink beer.
01:32:32.000 He said, I drink beer every night.
01:32:33.000 I drink a little bit of beer. 0.99
01:32:34.000 I don't get fucking drunk. 0.99
01:32:36.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:32:38.000 I'm with him.
01:32:39.000 I'm with him.
01:32:39.000 Do you drink a little beer when you're in camp?
01:32:41.000 Yeah, I drink a little beer when I'm in camp.
01:32:44.000 After the weigh-in.
01:32:44.000 Not immediately after the weigh-in, but when I'm all fed and rehydrated and feeling good, I'll have a beer.
01:32:50.000 It's part of my process.
01:32:51.000 Really?
01:32:51.000 Yeah.
01:32:52.000 I like to be relaxed, you know?
01:32:53.000 I want to not relax like, oh, I'm going to get doing shots, you know what I mean?
01:32:58.000 Cowboy and I were talking about that, too.
01:32:59.000 It's like...
01:33:01.000 They have made fight week so stressful now for everyone and you get so mentally just stressed out and you can't do this and you can't do that and you gotta do these interviews and like fight week used to be our whole camp you know when I first started it was you want to fight on Saturday and it's like Monday and like okay I'm training all week and you fought on Saturday you know and uh you know I think that uh What's so stressful about it?
01:33:24.000 The interviews, the press?
01:33:25.000 The interviews, the...
01:33:26.000 If you know...
01:33:28.000 I try not to think about the fight.
01:33:30.000 Cowboys, same way. 0.98
01:33:30.000 We get along well with this stuff. 0.98
01:33:35.000 If you sat at home and didn't eat, you know, and you're already dieting, you sat at home, the only thing that you can think of is on Saturday night, this guy's gonna try and kill me and blah, blah, blah, blah. 0.96
01:33:43.000 And it's like it eats you up and like stresses you the fuck out. 0.96
01:33:46.000 Right.
01:33:46.000 You know what I mean?
01:33:47.000 As opposed to like going and seeing a movie and relaxing and, you know.
01:33:51.000 Right.
01:33:51.000 And when the thoughts of the fight come up in your head, you purposely ignore them, push them aside.
01:33:56.000 Yeah, if they're not helpful, you know what I mean?
01:33:58.000 They can't change, you know what I mean?
01:34:00.000 I don't overanalyze, you know?
01:34:02.000 I used to watch my fight, my opponents a million times, you know, before I fought.
01:34:06.000 Now it's like, I'll watch them fight maybe once or twice to see if there's anything that jumps out at me that would look, you know, like he does this sometimes, but other than that, try not to overanalyze it and make it in there and just do it.
01:34:18.000 Now that's a smart way to do it.
01:34:20.000 It's like you're doing all the work anyway.
01:34:22.000 You're doing all the work in the gym.
01:34:23.000 You're prepared.
01:34:25.000 Like, the mind needs time off, too.
01:34:28.000 Yeah.
01:34:28.000 Just like the body does, right?
01:34:29.000 Absolutely.
01:34:30.000 Absolutely.
01:34:30.000 And you've, you know, is cowboy drinking a beer during fight week gonna change what his body, what he's done to train for the last 12 years of his life?
01:34:40.000 He's not gonna, you know, perform because he had that beer.
01:34:43.000 Like, I don't think so.
01:34:43.000 I think being relaxed and being confident and comfortable and then getting in there and handling business that night.
01:34:50.000 People are like, what the fuck is that sound? 0.99
01:34:52.000 Oh my god. 0.99
01:34:53.000 That's what people are saying.
01:34:54.000 I know. 1.00
01:34:54.000 What the fuck? 1.00
01:34:54.000 Fucking cucks. 1.00
01:34:55.000 What the fuck is going on here, man? 1.00
01:34:58.000 You did some work with Vinny Shorman, you know, who I've had on the podcast. 0.99
01:35:01.000 Great guy.
01:35:02.000 And before that, Vinny's a, he calls himself a mental coach.
01:35:07.000 He does hypnosis, but he calls himself a mental coach.
01:35:09.000 And before that, I was like, all right, what's the deal with this hypnotism? 0.99
01:35:12.000 Is this shit legit? 0.99
01:35:14.000 And then he put me under. 1.00
01:35:15.000 I had him do it.
01:35:16.000 I was like, oh, I woke up.
01:35:17.000 My pants were gone.
01:35:18.000 You gotta have him do timeline therapy on you.
01:35:20.000 What is that?
01:35:22.000 Timeline therapy is like, it's like a hypnosis state, but you're basically, you know, like a timeline in a book.
01:35:28.000 There's like, Jesus born, whatever, World War I, World War II. And you kind of like, did you feel like you floated at all when you were under, or no?
01:35:37.000 Didn't feel like I floated, but I felt like I went inward more.
01:35:41.000 Okay.
01:35:41.000 Like I was, I felt like, it almost felt like I was on a drug.
01:35:45.000 So this one, when you do it, you almost, like, you pull back.
01:35:48.000 Like, you pull back and you'll come up and you'll be out of... 1.00
01:35:51.000 This probably sounds so weird to people that don't get it, but fuck them. 0.99
01:35:55.000 You're straight up into the sky. 0.99
01:35:57.000 It feels like you're floating to me.
01:35:59.000 I know what it feels like to fly based off of that.
01:36:02.000 And you go up, up, up, up, and you're looking at your life in a timeline. 0.89
01:36:06.000 Think about a time when you're as far back as you can possibly remember, and you will tap into some shit from your childhood that you didn't even know that you even remembered. 0.93
01:36:14.000 You know what I mean? 0.97
01:36:16.000 Some really far out stuff.
01:36:18.000 And it'll change a lot of things.
01:36:20.000 If you think about it, Everything that's ever happened to your whole life, everything you've ever seen, thought, heard, where did that information go?
01:36:28.000 It didn't fall out of your head.
01:36:31.000 It's there.
01:36:31.000 You just can't access it anymore.
01:36:32.000 You have a hard time accessing it.
01:36:34.000 And with these hypnosis things, you have the opportunity to still tap into that or get better at tapping into that and accessing that information.
01:36:44.000 So what did you get out of it?
01:36:48.000 Remember when I said I forgive my dad?
01:36:50.000 Yeah.
01:36:50.000 Before I die?
01:36:51.000 I hated my dad's guts. 0.98
01:36:53.000 Like, hated him. 0.99
01:36:54.000 My dad did some really shitty things to me. 0.98
01:36:57.000 And I hated him. 0.99
01:36:58.000 I hated him.
01:36:59.000 And Vinny, one day, he said, I want to try this Tylenol therapy on you if you're into it.
01:37:06.000 I'm like, yeah.
01:37:06.000 And he's like, what is he going to do?
01:37:07.000 He's like, I don't know.
01:37:08.000 We're just going to see if you like this thing.
01:37:09.000 Had no clue what it was going to do.
01:37:11.000 And had me think of all these times in my life.
01:37:14.000 And When I felt really proud, when I felt really afraid, when I felt really scared, when I felt really strong, when I felt really...
01:37:20.000 All these emotions.
01:37:21.000 It was about 45 minutes.
01:37:24.000 Every single one of the emotions was some other time with my dad.
01:37:28.000 It was weird.
01:37:30.000 When we got done with the session, I couldn't even tap into that hatred that I had for my dad anymore. 0.99
01:37:35.000 I fucking hated him. 1.00
01:37:36.000 When I finally had cancer, I was like, I don't give a shit. 1.00
01:37:39.000 Fuck him. 1.00
01:37:41.000 After that session, I didn't have that I used to be able to look in the mirror and think about my dad in my eyes. 1.00
01:37:49.000 We were ready to be so fucking mad. 0.57
01:37:50.000 I used to fight when I was... 1.00
01:37:52.000 I used to do a lot of things that were based off of shoving up my dad's ass. 0.99
01:37:57.000 I'm going to show him. 0.99
01:37:58.000 Not necessarily fighting that person, like, not pretending it's my dad, but it was more like, I'm gonna, you know, I had a lot of motivation for my dad.
01:38:04.000 And, uh, yeah, when the session was over, I had, I couldn't even tap into that.
01:38:09.000 I was able to go, and I decided to go and start a new relationship with my dad.
01:38:14.000 And it wasn't like, I forgive you, but say you're sorry. 0.99
01:38:17.000 And, you know, it was like, I just didn't give a fuck anymore. 0.99
01:38:20.000 Like, it wasn't worth it. 0.98
01:38:21.000 And, um, People that really knew me really well could just see me differently.
01:38:26.000 There was like this chip that I had carried around on my shoulder that wasn't there anymore.
01:38:30.000 Wow.
01:38:30.000 It was nuts.
01:38:31.000 It was nuts.
01:38:32.000 That's an interesting thing.
01:38:33.000 The idea of timeline therapy, the idea of thinking about your life and being able to separate yourself like who you are right now and go back and look at all these moments in your life and what they meant to you and how you're carrying that around today.
01:38:47.000 Mm-hmm.
01:38:48.000 That would be very valuable to people.
01:38:51.000 He does all kinds of stuff.
01:38:53.000 You have a phobia. 1.00
01:38:54.000 If you're afraid of fucking spiders or whatever, he can do shit with you and get rid of that phobia. 1.00
01:39:02.000 He'll hypnotize you. 1.00
01:39:03.000 I don't know how he does it.
01:39:04.000 I have to ask him.
01:39:06.000 But he can hypnotize you and have you get rid of that phobia where you are not afraid of those things anymore.
01:39:12.000 Yeah, I wish I had a recording of what he was doing.
01:39:16.000 You know, what he said and the way he said it.
01:39:18.000 He's coming back over in a couple weeks.
01:39:19.000 Yeah, he just sent me an email.
01:39:20.000 I've got to get back to him.
01:39:21.000 He's got, I think, a podcast he's doing.
01:39:23.000 It's called The Mind Diet.
01:39:24.000 Oh, really?
01:39:24.000 Yeah.
01:39:25.000 He's great.
01:39:26.000 I'm a big fan of Vinny's, just as a person.
01:39:28.000 I really enjoy him.
01:39:29.000 And he's a very good Muay Thai commentator, too. 1.00
01:39:34.000 Yeah, he really knows his shit. 1.00
01:39:35.000 What was he doing? 1.00
01:39:36.000 He was doing It's Glory, right?
01:39:38.000 No, Infusion.
01:39:39.000 Oh, okay.
01:39:40.000 But what was he doing?
01:39:41.000 Do you do It's Showtime?
01:39:42.000 Yeah, it was It's Showtime.
01:39:43.000 That's right, It's Showtime.
01:39:44.000 And Fusion did K1 back in the day.
01:39:46.000 Did I say It's Glory?
01:39:47.000 Yeah, It's Glory.
01:39:48.000 It's showtime.
01:39:49.000 It's showtime.
01:39:51.000 It ended up being glory anyway. 0.99
01:39:55.000 How the fuck did kickboxing become so goddamn big in Europe? 0.99
01:40:00.000 It's so huge in other parts of the world. 0.99
01:40:03.000 Especially Holland.
01:40:05.000 They just had the right people promoting it.
01:40:09.000 Most of the management guys for K1 were Dutch and their fighters were Dutch.
01:40:19.000 I don't know.
01:40:19.000 I think when the US was blowing up with MMA, they were still on the kickboxing train.
01:40:26.000 That's why we got held back, I think.
01:40:28.000 Well, it's amazing when you look at... 1.00
01:40:30.000 Fucking cage fighters ruined it for us. 1.00
01:40:31.000 God damn it. 1.00
01:40:32.000 We're coming back though. 0.99
01:40:33.000 If you look at all the different people that are super high-level kickboxers, they came from this one really small country.
01:40:42.000 I mean, Holland is not very big at all.
01:40:44.000 But you've got Rob Kamen, you've got Ernesto Hoost.
01:40:48.000 I mean, it is just like this incredible hotbed of super high-level kickboxing talent.
01:40:54.000 I mean, Ramon Deckers.
01:40:57.000 I mean, you can go on and on and on.
01:40:58.000 You can keep going about all the high-level talent that came out of Holland.
01:41:02.000 And to this day, you know, Badr Hari.
01:41:05.000 It's like five gyms.
01:41:06.000 Yeah.
01:41:06.000 Maybe not even five.
01:41:07.000 It was like three or four major gyms, and they just all competed all the time.
01:41:11.000 And it blew up, yeah.
01:41:13.000 What's going on with that Badr Hari, dude? 0.99
01:41:15.000 I don't know.
01:41:16.000 I don't know.
01:41:17.000 That guy's always breaking people's legs in nightclubs and knocking people out. 1.00
01:41:20.000 He's fucking crazy. 1.00
01:41:21.000 He's an angry motherfucker. 1.00
01:41:22.000 He's angry as fuck. 1.00
01:41:23.000 Why is he so angry? 1.00
01:41:24.000 I don't know.
01:41:24.000 I never met the guy.
01:41:25.000 I hope to meet him someday.
01:41:27.000 You know, that's one of the few people left on my bucket list of people I haven't met is Badr Hari.
01:41:31.000 I would be a super fanboy if I met Badr Hari.
01:41:33.000 Yeah, you took a photo with somebody and you were saying, it was on your Instagram, you were saying there's only one more left.
01:41:38.000 Yeah.
01:41:39.000 That was Chuck Liddell.
01:41:40.000 I saw him at a club here in Hollywood not long ago.
01:41:43.000 I met Mike Tyson.
01:41:45.000 I met Chuck Liddell.
01:41:46.000 There's been a lot of people that I've had the honor of meeting.
01:41:51.000 Chuck Liddell was a big one.
01:41:52.000 I was like, I don't want to be a fanboy.
01:41:54.000 It is hard not to be a fanboy.
01:41:59.000 That was my hero when I was a kid.
01:42:02.000 Is Badr Hari in jail?
01:42:03.000 What is he doing now? 1.00
01:42:11.000 He's so goddamn crazy. 1.00
01:42:13.000 There's a video of him, some guy was working at the front desk of a hotel, and I don't know what the fuck he said, but Bada didn't like it, so he went behind the counter and smacked him in his head. 1.00
01:42:21.000 Really? 0.98
01:42:23.000 It was security camera footage. 0.99
01:42:25.000 See, I hope the guy said something and it's not that Butterhari's just a bully, because a lot of these guys are fucking bullies, you know? 0.99
01:42:30.000 Yeah, I hope so, too. 0.98
01:42:31.000 I mean, I'm laughing.
01:42:33.000 You know, and walks up and smacks you.
01:42:35.000 Verhoeven on Butterhari's Superfight.
01:42:36.000 Rumors are true. 1.00
01:42:37.000 Oh, shit. 1.00
01:42:39.000 That's a bad motherfucker. 1.00
01:42:42.000 Rico Verhoeven is a bad motherfucker. 1.00
01:42:45.000 I'm very impressed with that guy. 0.99
01:42:46.000 You want to talk about a big athletic heavyweight with sick endurance and just world-class kickboxing skill. 0.99
01:42:54.000 And fucking big. 0.99
01:42:55.000 That dude is enormous. 1.00
01:42:56.000 Yeah, he's huge.
01:42:57.000 I'm not a small guy. 1.00
01:42:58.000 That guy is fucking huge. 0.99
01:42:59.000 Yeah, he's huge. 1.00
01:43:00.000 He's just a giant, giant man.
01:43:02.000 He's a giant man.
01:43:03.000 Giant and, like, really good endurance for a big guy.
01:43:07.000 He pushes a great pace.
01:43:08.000 Really good boxing.
01:43:09.000 He was, like, part of Tyson Fury's camp for, I think, Klitschko or something.
01:43:13.000 Was he really?
01:43:14.000 Yeah.
01:43:15.000 Isn't that interesting?
01:43:16.000 There's a gypsy world heavyweight champion.
01:43:18.000 A lot of those guys are gypsies. 1.00
01:43:20.000 I don't know.
01:43:20.000 Gypsy, is that a bad word?
01:43:21.000 Or traveler, I guess, is the better one. 0.99
01:43:23.000 Traveler?
01:43:23.000 That's what they like to call it?
01:43:24.000 Pikey. 1.00
01:43:25.000 Pikey? 1.00
01:43:26.000 Is gypsy bad? 1.00
01:43:28.000 Pikey's bad. 1.00
01:43:28.000 I think Pikey is not. 1.00
01:43:30.000 It's a derogatory term.
01:43:31.000 Oh, sorry, folks.
01:43:32.000 Sorry. 0.99
01:43:33.000 It's fucking language police. 0.99
01:43:34.000 I think travelers. 1.00
01:43:35.000 I think travelers.
01:43:36.000 Well, Eskimo's a tricky one.
01:43:38.000 Because in some places, Eskimo is an insult.
01:43:41.000 But in Alaska, they don't have a problem with Eskimo.
01:43:44.000 The people that live in certain parts of Alaska, apparently, that's what they call them, so they like it.
01:43:50.000 It's not an issue.
01:43:51.000 Depends.
01:43:52.000 It's totally geographical.
01:43:53.000 Who else would be an Eskimo outside of Alaska?
01:43:56.000 Inuits.
01:43:58.000 Inuits, they live in different parts of the world.
01:44:01.000 Canada.
01:44:02.000 I think in Canada, Eskimo may be an insult.
01:44:06.000 Because they're not from Alaska?
01:44:08.000 I just think they're the same people, but they just prefer a different name, maybe?
01:44:14.000 Well, like, the people in Canada, they call themselves, the natives call themselves First Nations.
01:44:20.000 Yeah, you can't call them Indians, they're not Indians. 1.00
01:44:23.000 So it's like, it's essentially the same kind of people, they're just in a different spot. 0.97
01:44:27.000 It's all fucking weird, man.
01:44:29.000 It's all weird. 0.96
01:44:31.000 But, yeah, you gotta be careful.
01:44:33.000 Travelers.
01:44:33.000 Call them a traveler.
01:44:34.000 Traveler, I think, is the right way to go.
01:44:36.000 He's a funny guy, though. 0.99
01:44:37.000 He fucked with Vladimir Klitschko's head. 1.00
01:44:39.000 He really fucked with his head. 1.00
01:44:41.000 He's a funny motherfucker. 1.00
01:44:42.000 He's funny. 1.00
01:44:42.000 He's very funny. 1.00
01:44:43.000 He's hilarious.
01:44:44.000 He's a terrible singer, though.
01:44:45.000 Tell him to stop singing.
01:44:47.000 Go.
01:44:48.000 But they're having this heavyweight title.
01:44:51.000 But Nikki Holtzman's family is a traveler.
01:44:53.000 Are they really?
01:44:54.000 That makes sense.
01:44:55.000 And who else?
01:44:57.000 Albert Krauss.
01:44:58.000 He's another one?
01:44:59.000 Really?
01:45:01.000 Wow. 1.00
01:45:02.000 Tough fuckers. 1.00
01:45:03.000 But it makes sense. 0.99
01:45:05.000 Yeah, Tyson Fury does interviews from inside his trailer.
01:45:07.000 Does he really?
01:45:08.000 Yeah, I saw one the other day.
01:45:09.000 He still has a trailer?
01:45:10.000 Yeah.
01:45:11.000 Still?
01:45:12.000 Yeah.
01:45:12.000 As a world champion?
01:45:13.000 Yep.
01:45:13.000 He's living in a trailer?
01:45:14.000 Yep.
01:45:14.000 Whoa.
01:45:15.000 A traveler.
01:45:16.000 Hmm.
01:45:16.000 Do you think that he keeps the house too?
01:45:19.000 I don't know.
01:45:20.000 I have no idea.
01:45:21.000 Hmm.
01:45:22.000 Yeah.
01:45:23.000 I don't think being a traveler, from what I know about, well, I don't really the fuck do I know, but I don't think that it's about a money thing, because I think a lot of those people have money and flashy stuff and whatever.
01:45:35.000 It's just they get their way of life.
01:45:37.000 Oh, really?
01:45:38.000 Yeah, to be able to pick up and go wherever you want.
01:45:40.000 So they just don't want to have roots.
01:45:43.000 They like to be able to just have, what do they call them, caravans?
01:45:46.000 I saw that movie, Snatch.
01:45:47.000 Yeah, that's my favorite movie of all time. 0.99
01:45:48.000 Fucking great movie. 0.97
01:45:49.000 Favorite movie of all time. 1.00
01:45:50.000 I could fucking recite that entire movie. 0.99
01:45:53.000 There he is. 0.99
01:45:54.000 Tyson Fury. 0.99
01:45:55.000 He's a fucking enormous heavyweight boxer who can't even stand up in his trailer. 0.99
01:46:01.000 He's too tall for his own trailer. 0.99
01:46:03.000 And that's where he actually lives. 0.98
01:46:05.000 How are you fuckin' Gavin? 0.97
01:46:06.000 How are you? 0.98
01:46:08.000 You like tags?
01:46:09.000 That Brad Pitt movie. 0.96
01:46:11.000 That was a good fuckin' movie, man. 0.95
01:46:13.000 Such a good movie. 0.94
01:46:14.000 I had no idea those people talked to such a strange accent before that movie.
01:46:17.000 And then I got stuck watching these movies, or these videos on YouTube, where these travelers are challenging each other.
01:46:26.000 Yeah.
01:46:26.000 You ever watch those?
01:46:27.000 Oh, I fuckin' love it. 0.81
01:46:27.000 Those are the best. 0.81
01:46:28.000 Oh, you piece of shite. 1.00
01:46:30.000 You piece of shite. 1.00
01:46:33.000 The one with the kids? 1.00
01:46:34.000 Yeah!
01:46:34.000 Oh, the kids.
01:46:35.000 Oh, the kids are so good. 1.00
01:46:36.000 Bong, Nick McGregor, you're a fucking piece of shit. 1.00
01:46:40.000 I'm gonna flog you. 1.00
01:46:41.000 I'm gonna flog you good. 1.00
01:46:42.000 Yeah, but they have these fucking bare-knuckle fights, man. 1.00
01:46:45.000 And then they have no rounds. 0.99
01:46:46.000 They have some weird rules. 1.00
01:46:48.000 And they're all fighting with their fucking jeans on. 0.99
01:46:50.000 Yeah, they have, like, their own court system. 0.99
01:46:52.000 And, like, that's...
01:46:52.000 If you have a dispute, that's something about, like, their dispute.
01:46:56.000 And then you fight over it.
01:46:56.000 And, like, when, you know...
01:46:58.000 It's settled.
01:46:59.000 When it's settled, it's settled. 0.99
01:47:00.000 And they'll have a full-on fucking fight, and that's the law. 0.99
01:47:05.000 Like, okay, he won, he wins. 0.99
01:47:08.000 You know what I mean?
01:47:09.000 Yeah.
01:47:10.000 It's crazy.
01:47:11.000 Well, it's just interesting to watch it all play out on YouTube, because you might have heard about all this stuff before, or you hear about it in stories and legends, but I think our age is the first age that's ever had a chance to watch these guys challenge each other.
01:47:23.000 I'm calling you out! 1.00
01:47:25.000 You're a fucking bag of shite. 1.00
01:47:26.000 And there's a ton of them online. 1.00
01:47:29.000 They're really interesting to watch.
01:47:31.000 Because you're getting a peek into, like, a very sensitive culture.
01:47:36.000 Sensitive in that, like, there's not...
01:47:38.000 They don't have...
01:47:41.000 There's not a lot of history behind it in terms of documented culture, and they could go away.
01:47:51.000 That's something that might not be here a hundred years from now.
01:47:53.000 We might be watching a type of people or a group of people that are living a certain way that things might change in the next hundred years and they might integrate back into society. 1.00
01:48:03.000 These fucking people... 1.00
01:48:05.000 The whole world already knows that. 1.00
01:48:06.000 And you're going around the place Barney telling people you're the king.
01:48:09.000 You're not going to burger king, Barney.
01:48:10.000 How are you the king, for God's sake?
01:48:12.000 You're never going to fight in your whole life. 0.85
01:48:13.000 She's a cowly, good-blood woman with four bellies. 1.00
01:48:17.000 And my mother challenged her. 1.00
01:48:19.000 And we've been going to fight in that town.
01:48:21.000 My mother challenged her.
01:48:22.000 There's one. 1.00
01:48:25.000 I bet you, Jerry, was your rat cunt. 1.00
01:48:31.000 Look at this fucking guy. 1.00
01:48:32.000 It's like two young kids and it is so fucking funny. 1.00
01:48:36.000 Oh my god. 0.92
01:48:38.000 I just think it's so interesting to see all this stuff on YouTube because we have a view into this culture that you never would have gotten this before.
01:48:50.000 You would have heard, you know, Patti O'Brien called out Mickey O'Fuckface and they met in the swamps and duked it out.
01:48:57.000 But seeing this...
01:48:59.000 And again, I mean, you know, I would like them to be able to keep their way of life and all that.
01:49:02.000 I'm not saying that they shouldn't be able to do this, but I'm saying that it's possible that that might not be there in 50 years.
01:49:08.000 These people, they don't really have a country.
01:49:11.000 They don't have a city.
01:49:13.000 So it's kind of delicate.
01:49:15.000 Their existence is fairly delicate.
01:49:16.000 It's not like you're talking about people like, oh, these are guys that live in Detroit, and Detroit's always had this sort of gypsy community.
01:49:23.000 No. 0.99
01:49:24.000 No, they fucking travel around. 0.99
01:49:26.000 And a lot of places we travel, people don't want them there. 0.99
01:49:29.000 I have friends who are from London and they had a house that is in some suburb.
01:49:34.000 I don't know what they call it in England.
01:49:35.000 I don't think they call it a suburb in the country.
01:49:37.000 They had this house and these travelers moved next to their house. 1.00
01:49:41.000 There was like a lot next to their house. 0.99
01:49:42.000 They just set up shop, party till fucking four o'clock in the morning, threw garbage in the street and nobody could do shit. 0.99
01:49:48.000 They're all scared to say anything. 0.99
01:49:50.000 Everyone's scared to say anything and you can't There's no laws.
01:49:55.000 There's no law against what they're doing.
01:49:57.000 Because you can't discriminate against these travelers.
01:50:00.000 So it's this weird situation where people are trying to sell their houses.
01:50:03.000 Nobody wants to buy it.
01:50:05.000 Property values crash.
01:50:06.000 And these proper English people that I'm friends with were trying to explain the terrors of these people moving next door.
01:50:11.000 And I'm chuckling.
01:50:13.000 Oh, your second house.
01:50:14.000 Oh, no.
01:50:15.000 What are you going to do? 1.00
01:50:16.000 These people just move next door and they're fucking partying. 0.99
01:50:19.000 What can you do, though? 1.00
01:50:21.000 You challenge him. 0.99
01:50:23.000 If I fucking win, you've got to move. 0.99
01:50:24.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99
01:50:26.000 How do you listen, you hear me? 1.00
01:50:28.000 You fucking bag of shite. 1.00
01:50:29.000 I'm gonna kick you out of my neck. 1.00
01:50:30.000 You threw your trash in my yard. 1.00
01:50:32.000 My snooty neighborhood. 0.97
01:50:33.000 Yeah, they just set up shop and started partying. 1.00
01:50:36.000 And people were like, what in the fuck? 1.00
01:50:38.000 Can you imagine if you're like one of those pinkies out, teetotaler type English people who are super proper, and these motherfuckers moved next door, started bloodying each other up, having bonfires, I don't know, man. 1.00
01:50:52.000 Something about the way they live is fun. 0.98
01:50:53.000 Yeah, I know.
01:50:56.000 There's something about it.
01:50:57.000 I'm glad they're around.
01:50:58.000 Yeah.
01:50:59.000 It's exciting.
01:51:00.000 Yeah, I think so, too.
01:51:01.000 Yeah.
01:51:01.000 Let them be them.
01:51:02.000 Let them live their lives.
01:51:04.000 I mean, sorry if they're in your house.
01:51:07.000 I'm sorry, too. 0.96
01:51:09.000 Yeah, I'm sorry if they fucked up your house. 0.76
01:51:11.000 But it's kind of fun they're around.
01:51:14.000 It's kind of awesome.
01:51:15.000 Yeah, I hope they win.
01:51:16.000 In the greater picture of civilization, it's an interesting element.
01:51:23.000 And on that note, want to wrap this up?
01:51:25.000 Sure.
01:51:26.000 Anything else?
01:51:28.000 Note to not the haters, but note to all the nice people out there.
01:51:32.000 Shoutouts to all the fans.
01:51:33.000 Oh, shoutouts to all the fans.
01:51:34.000 You know, never a boring fight.
01:51:37.000 You know, I'll be back and I'll come back from this like I always have.
01:51:41.000 You're never going to turn off Joe Schilling fight. 0.99
01:51:43.000 You got a great fucking attitude, dude. 0.98
01:51:45.000 You had a great attitude, even through losses, and I think people do appreciate that. 0.99
01:51:48.000 I think people definitely appreciate the fact that you fight the way you do.
01:51:51.000 I gotta tell you about this machine, though.
01:51:53.000 It's called a Frogger.
01:51:54.000 Have you heard of this?
01:51:55.000 A Frogger?
01:51:55.000 It's called a Frogger.
01:51:56.000 Frogger?
01:51:57.000 Frogger.
01:51:57.000 It's this machine they sent me to my gym.
01:52:02.000 It's on wheels.
01:52:03.000 It's like a full-body movement.
01:52:04.000 It's designed for...
01:52:09.000 It's like you're on wheels and you can do it in place or you can do it you could actually race people in it and it's a You race people you can race in it Can you find it Jamie no?
01:52:32.000 Do you know the company that makes it?
01:52:34.000 I do.
01:52:35.000 We're going to get this information. 0.99
01:52:37.000 I'm really blowing this whole fucking plug here. 0.99
01:52:39.000 It's on wheels. 0.99
01:52:39.000 It's on wheels. 0.99
01:52:40.000 I feel like I'm playing charades.
01:52:42.000 It's a frog, but it's not.
01:52:45.000 It's a frogger.
01:52:46.000 Football players use it.
01:52:52.000 Okay, I'm looking at this thing.
01:52:54.000 Oh, this is crazy.
01:52:55.000 There's like wheels for your feet.
01:52:58.000 It's like doing a burpee.
01:53:01.000 Where can Jamie find this?
01:53:04.000 Where can Jamie find this?
01:53:05.000 I have a link right here.
01:53:09.000 What is the name of the link?
01:53:11.000 Or what is the name of that thing?
01:53:13.000 What I'm looking at, folks, it's sort of like a super advanced version of an ab wheel, but you have one on your feet and one on your hands, and you're pushing forward with the one on your hands, where it's almost like a cart, and then you're pulling the ab wheel that's connected to your feet forward and pushing...
01:53:31.000 Frog Fitness.
01:53:31.000 Frog Fitness.
01:53:34.000 Because you kind of look like a frog while you're doing it.
01:53:36.000 Here it is.
01:53:37.000 Frog Fitness.
01:53:38.000 Fill out one of our forms or click here to head to our new website.
01:53:44.000 So they sent me two of these to the gym for me to try out.
01:53:46.000 And I was like, oh, it looks like fun.
01:53:47.000 This is like, you know you do like a burpee and it's like almost immediate exhaustion like that?
01:53:52.000 Yeah.
01:53:52.000 That thing is one of the hardest workouts I've ever had.
01:53:54.000 And they're marketing it for like a lot of the NFL training camps are getting it because it's like the same position for football.
01:54:01.000 But it's a...
01:54:02.000 It's a beast of a thing.
01:54:03.000 So that would make sense that it would be really good for wrestling, too, then.
01:54:06.000 Yeah.
01:54:07.000 The new evolution in fitness.
01:54:09.000 Okay, so it's got resistance bands, so you push the forward cart, and the resistance bands are resisting you as you push forward, and then you pull your legs forward. 0.72
01:54:20.000 Wow, this looks fucking badass.
01:54:22.000 It's like it works every part of your body, and it's like immediate exhaustion. 0.98
01:54:26.000 Wow!
01:54:27.000 It's like nothing else I've ever used before. 0.99
01:54:28.000 It's a fucking awesome product. 0.99
01:54:29.000 No kidding, man. 0.98
01:54:30.000 And do you feel any benefit of this when you're sparring or when you're training?
01:54:34.000 I used it for cardio.
01:54:35.000 I even used it.
01:54:36.000 And you can set it so that you can be in one place, so that you're not going anywhere. 0.99
01:54:41.000 Seems like you would get a motherfucker of a six-pack. 0.97
01:54:43.000 There's a bunch of really hard workouts to it. 0.98
01:54:46.000 But I'll do that with my altitude machine.
01:54:49.000 Because it just zaps. 0.95
01:54:50.000 You get so fucking tired so fast. 0.62
01:54:52.000 So I try to do that even in high altitude. 0.93
01:54:54.000 Okay, so this girl was using it to do like cleans and presses, and she's doing like rows with it. 1.00
01:55:00.000 So the wheel also acts as resistance with the bands.
01:55:04.000 Yeah.
01:55:04.000 You can put like 160 pounds on the thing or something.
01:55:06.000 What?
01:55:07.000 It's something else.
01:55:07.000 It's nuts.
01:55:08.000 Wow.
01:55:08.000 Okay, so you use fatter bands, and then it makes more resistance as you push forward?
01:55:13.000 Is this the guy who invented it?
01:55:15.000 He looks like a frog.
01:55:16.000 Sorry, buddy.
01:55:18.000 Not in a bad way.
01:55:19.000 Frogs are awesome.
01:55:21.000 Frogs get you high if you like them. 1.00
01:55:23.000 So this one right here, that guy's got it fully loaded up.
01:55:27.000 Oh, wow.
01:55:28.000 Look at that.
01:55:29.000 That is interesting, man.
01:55:31.000 Okay, so there's a bunch of different ways to use that thing.
01:55:36.000 Wow, I like it. 0.96
01:55:38.000 That must give you a fucking hell of a core workout, huh? 1.00
01:55:42.000 It's fucking terrible. 1.00
01:55:44.000 It's fun, but I fucking hate it. 1.00
01:55:45.000 I hate it. 0.99
01:55:46.000 It's exhausting.
01:55:47.000 Exhausting.
01:55:47.000 What is your strength and conditioning when you're not working with Kurson?
01:55:50.000 Like, what do you do?
01:55:51.000 Do you just mostly concentrate on fight preparation, like pad work, sparring, bag work, things along those lines?
01:55:57.000 Yeah, when I'm not working with Kurson, you know, I run.
01:55:59.000 I'll do a lot of sprints.
01:56:00.000 I do a lot of Tabatos.
01:56:03.000 Explain Tabata to people who don't know.
01:56:05.000 It's an interval thing.
01:56:07.000 It's 8 rounds of 20 seconds of work and 10 seconds of rest.
01:56:12.000 And what you're doing is you're going as fast and as hard as you can for 20 seconds, getting your heart rate as high as possible.
01:56:17.000 And then immediately when 20 seconds is up, you have 10 seconds of rest.
01:56:21.000 So you're training your heart rate to get used to spiking and then come back down.
01:56:27.000 It can increase your VO2 max incredibly.
01:56:32.000 Tabata's is like really a big part of my cardio sessions.
01:56:35.000 Yeah, it's an amazing protocol that was invented.
01:56:38.000 I don't know who invented it.
01:56:40.000 So it would be a four-minute round total, eight times of 20 seconds, right?
01:56:43.000 And it sort of goes along the same lines of what we're talking about with Nick Kursan's doing or what Pavel Tatsuli is doing.
01:56:50.000 It's not about massive amounts of work.
01:56:52.000 It's about doing it smart and doing it the right way.
01:56:54.000 So these 20-second sprints and these 10-second breaks, man, what a massive impact it has on your cardio.
01:57:00.000 And you can do that with anything.
01:57:02.000 You could be running, you could be hitting pads with it.
01:57:05.000 I'll do bag work as hard as you can for 20 seconds and then 10 seconds off.
01:57:10.000 If you think about that, that's how a fight is anyway. 0.87
01:57:12.000 You have a 20 second burst and you have 10 seconds of getting your shit together and a 20 second burst. 0.91
01:57:17.000 I do that a lot. 0.93
01:57:19.000 Lately I've been doing a lot more just pad work and speed work and using a double in bag a lot.
01:57:24.000 For a long time I was trying to be very physical and outworking the other person and being more aggressive and trying to get more to speed and technique than trying to outwork people.
01:57:44.000 That's definitely a smart move.
01:57:47.000 Definitely a smart way to go.
01:57:49.000 That wasn't exactly what I did last Friday night, but that's what I did with Jason Willness.
01:57:53.000 The time of four was a really good example of that.
01:57:55.000 That was a very good example of that. 1.00
01:57:57.000 Yeah, and Willness is a dangerous motherfucker. 1.00
01:57:59.000 That guy's very dangerous. 1.00
01:58:00.000 He hits hard.
01:58:01.000 He's a real threat.
01:58:03.000 That was a real good fight.
01:58:04.000 Yeah.
01:58:06.000 So, all right, brother.
01:58:07.000 Oh, one more shout-out.
01:58:09.000 One more?
01:58:10.000 Sorry, buddy.
01:58:11.000 Please.
01:58:11.000 Kinetic Motorsports in Long Beach.
01:58:13.000 Did you see my Instagram?
01:58:14.000 They gave me a Ferrari in the phone.
01:58:16.000 Is that real?
01:58:16.000 Yeah, they gave me a Ferrari for like a week till the fight, and then gave it back, went to the fight, and then I got a brand new Z06 outside right now.
01:58:24.000 Really?
01:58:25.000 Yep.
01:58:25.000 They're just letting you borrow cars?
01:58:27.000 They gave me cars to drive so I don't have to buy whatever.
01:58:31.000 They're a high-end car lot. 0.97
01:58:33.000 They have fucking super nice cars. 0.97
01:58:35.000 You can rent them, you can buy them. 0.99
01:58:36.000 Really?
01:58:37.000 Yeah.
01:58:37.000 And Long Beach.
01:58:38.000 All right.
01:58:39.000 Powerful kinetic motorsports.
01:58:41.000 Anybody who gives you a Ferrari, they're on my good side. 1.00
01:58:43.000 Look at that fucking thing. 1.00
01:58:45.000 Oh, shit. 1.00
01:58:46.000 Which one was that? 0.99
01:58:47.000 It's a 458 Italia.
01:58:50.000 What a beautiful car. 1.00
01:58:51.000 Goddamn. 0.99
01:58:52.000 It was so good. 0.99
01:58:53.000 Look at the design of that thing.
01:58:54.000 It was so good, Joe.
01:58:55.000 It's just so spectacular.
01:58:56.000 It's like a car from the future.
01:58:58.000 Like, when you were a kid, you thought about a car in the future?
01:59:01.000 That's what you, like, envisioned. 0.97
01:59:02.000 You know, I had a fucking Ferrari Testarossa poster on my wall as a child. 0.99
01:59:07.000 You know what I mean? 1.00
01:59:08.000 Talk about bucket list shit. 1.00
01:59:11.000 That's it right there. 1.00
01:59:12.000 When that... 0.98
01:59:12.000 When that InFocus piece came out and they texted it to me, I was driving in the Ferrari and just fucking... 0.98
01:59:17.000 When they gave me that, it was like a good two hours where I was just like, ah! 0.99
01:59:22.000 Fucking losing my shit, right? 0.99
01:59:23.000 But I'm driving in the Ferrari and I get a text and it was the Bellator social media team sends me that video and I'm watching this video of how far I've come and what I've done for the sport and That Can't Stop Crazy and Focus piece in the driver's seat of a Ferrari. 1.00
01:59:35.000 It was a good feeling. 0.73
01:59:36.000 That's ridiculous. 0.98
01:59:37.000 Dana White's the same way. 0.97
01:59:38.000 When he was a kid, he was in love with Testarossa like everybody was at Watch Miami Vice.
01:59:43.000 So he had one made.
01:59:44.000 He had one done up with a custom interior and a real stereo.
01:59:48.000 Apparently that's a big no-no. 0.60
01:59:49.000 People don't want to fuck with the original insides of the Ferrari. 1.00
01:59:53.000 He's like, fuck you. 0.99
01:59:54.000 He had that done up, but he was like, I finally got a Testarossa. 1.00
01:59:58.000 Yeah.
01:59:59.000 Those big lines on the side.
02:00:02.000 That was the car we were kids. 1.00
02:00:04.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
02:00:04.000 Alright, Joe Schilling. 1.00
02:00:06.000 Joe Schilling 187 on Twitter.
02:00:09.000 Joe Schilling on Instagram.
02:00:12.000 Joe underscore Schilling on Instagram.
02:00:14.000 And Snapchat is Joe dash Schilling.
02:00:17.000 Hey, whoever's got my name on Snapchat, give it up, man.
02:00:20.000 I'll get on Snapchat.
02:00:21.000 I'll give you a shout-out. 0.71
02:00:22.000 Who does that anyway?
02:00:23.000 I even throw you a little money.
02:00:25.000 I throw you a little cash.
02:00:26.000 Come on.
02:00:27.000 Contact me.
02:00:28.000 Who does that?
02:00:29.000 Who are these people that have other people as their profile picture?
02:00:31.000 Give me my name!
02:00:32.000 Give me a break. 1.00
02:00:33.000 Give me my name, you fucks! 1.00
02:00:35.000 Alright, thanks, brother. 0.99
02:00:36.000 Appreciate it, man.
02:00:37.000 Cucks. 1.00
02:00:37.000 You fucking cucks. 1.00
02:00:38.000 Give him his name back, you cuck. 1.00
02:00:39.000 And let us know before the next fight. 0.97
02:00:41.000 We'll have you back on again for sure and pump that up and let everybody know about it.
02:00:45.000 Always a pleasure, Joe.
02:00:46.000 Always a pleasure to see you too, my brother.
02:00:47.000 Thank you very much.
02:00:49.000 Alright, we'll be back tomorrow, folks.
02:00:50.000 Thank you very much.
02:00:51.000 Bye!