The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #857 - Dan Bilzerian

00:00:02.000 Boom! 0.99

00:00:02.000 And we're live. 0.99

00:00:03.000 There's a lot of rich people in the world, but there's not a lot of rich people living like you.

00:00:07.000 So first of all, before we even get started, I salute you, sir.

00:00:10.000 Because if I was a 16-year-old kid and I won the lottery, I'd be living exactly the way you live. 0.90

00:00:16.000 Like, if you asked a 16-year-old kid, hey man, if you had fucking 100 million bucks, what would you do? 0.99

00:00:20.000 Oh, dude, I just have bitches around me all the time. 1.00

00:00:23.000 I'd be jet skiing. 0.97

00:00:25.000 I'd be driving around in Ferraris and private jets.

00:00:28.000 You're living like a life that doesn't even seem real.

00:00:31.000 Does it seem real to you?

00:00:34.000 Now it seems normal, as crazy as that sounds.

00:00:36.000 I've been doing it for a while, but that's actually kind of exactly what I did.

00:00:42.000 I think it started in...

00:00:45.000 Maybe like 2011, 12. So I had a girlfriend for about two or three years.

00:00:50.000 And she was like pretty happy.

00:00:53.000 She was a playmate.

00:00:54.000 She had like 100,000 followers.

00:00:55.000 And she was going to move to LA to become famous and this and that.

00:00:58.000 And we ended up breaking up.

00:01:00.000 And...

00:01:01.000 I actually ended up getting a place in San Diego, then I got a place in LA, and I started playing this, you know, real big poker.

00:01:07.000 And, I mean, I beat one guy for like $54 million, and then, you know, I beat another guy for like $10 million.

00:01:12.000 So there's like, you know, some pretty big...

00:01:14.000 Jesus Christ!

00:01:15.000 Yeah, like, you know what I'm saying?

00:01:16.000 So there's like, there's some pretty big, you know, wins there.

00:01:19.000 And, uh...

00:01:21.000 And I was single and I was just like, you know what? 1.00

00:01:23.000 Fuck it. 1.00

00:01:24.000 I'm just kind of like, do bucket list shit. 1.00

00:01:26.000 Whatever I wanted to do when I was a kid, I'm just going to fucking do it. 0.99

00:01:30.000 And I just did. 0.97

00:01:32.000 And I posted about it. 0.99

00:01:35.000 Part of the posting was because I knew it would be able to get me some pussy without actually speaking to girls, which was good. 1.00

00:01:41.000 And then there was like another piece of it where it was kind of like a fuck you to her. 0.99

00:01:45.000 But it was like never like really to become famous, you know what I mean? 0.96

00:01:49.000 It was just kind of like, you know, I was just doing my thing and, you know, we were getting pictures here and there. 0.85

00:01:54.000 And then it kind of, I mean, fuck, it's, you know, I mean, I sent you some of the stats.

00:01:59.000 I mean, I think like a week ago, like... 0.99

00:02:01.000 Fuck, I reach 175 million people. 0.99

00:02:03.000 Yeah, it was insane. 1.00

00:02:05.000 You sent me some measurement of all the different people that are looking at your stuff, and I'll read it, because it's insane.

00:02:13.000 Analytics.

00:02:14.000 Yeah, like, it doesn't even make sense.

00:02:17.000 It's hundreds of millions of people here.

00:02:21.000 161,304,941 impressions this week.

00:02:28.000 That's insane!

00:02:30.000 And that's just Instagram.

00:02:31.000 You know, like, Facebook's the whole thing. 0.99

00:02:34.000 And it's really underrepresented because First of all, everybody else is buying all their followers and likes and all their shit. 0.91

00:02:41.000 So theirs is like really inflated. 0.99

00:02:43.000 And also, I got actually kind of like the opposite, because I got a lot of people that are looking at my shit that can't really be seen looking at my shit. 0.99

00:02:49.000 You know what I mean? 0.98

00:02:50.000 Like, there's like some big producer, I won't say his name, but like...

00:02:53.000 Every time I post a girl, like, they get hit up in the DM. And this is, like, a big, big, like, you know, like, fucking done, like, hundred million dollar movies and shit. 0.98

00:03:01.000 And he's, like, hits them all up, you know? 0.98

00:03:03.000 So there's, like, a lot of these dudes that just stalk me out. 0.97

00:03:05.000 Like, this Paul Marciano, this fucking guy is, like, every time I, like, post a chick, she's got a guest campaign now, you know? 0.97

00:03:11.000 So it's, like... 0.99

00:03:12.000 It's kind of funny.

00:03:13.000 Well, it's great for them, too, then.

00:03:15.000 What I'm saying is they're not actually officially following me. 0.99

00:03:19.000 They didn't click that button, but they're watching my shit. 0.99

00:03:21.000 They're stalking you from afar. 0.98

00:03:23.000 Yeah, so they hit that search button, and you're at the top of the list always, because they're always searching you.

00:03:28.000 That's funny.

00:03:29.000 Seems like it.

00:03:30.000 So how long has this been going on?

00:03:31.000 When did you start making all these crazy posts and when did this gambling rampage start?

00:03:37.000 Well, I mean, I've been a gambler for a long time, but I think kind of the craziness, I would say, started in 2012, probably.

00:03:46.000 That's like...

00:03:46.000 I just distinctly remember because I won like 11 million bucks in a night and my buddy who I'd just given like two thousand dollars to made me a million off it because he got second in the World Series of Poker so I had like a 12 million dollar week so I was like fuck it I'm gonna take this dude down to like Puerto Vallarta with a bunch of chicks and we're gonna have fun you know and that was kind of like um that was that was one of the big actually no I'm sorry I take that back I'd broken up my girlfriend and it was a buddy of mine Nick Cassavetes who he's like You know,

00:04:16.000 he's pretty big.

00:04:17.000 He did, like, The Notebook and Blow and, you know, like, big director or whatever.

00:04:21.000 And I played poker with him a lot.

00:04:24.000 And I'd just broken up with my girl, and I was like, hey, let's go down to Cabo.

00:04:27.000 I'm going to bring some chicks. 1.00

00:04:28.000 And it was supposed to be me, him, and one other guy.

00:04:32.000 And the other guy ended up bailing, but he had, like, committed, so he paid for his part of the trip.

00:04:36.000 So it was me and Nick, and I think it was, like...

00:04:38.000 I want to say 17 chicks. 0.87

00:04:41.000 I remember I had sex nine times in one day. 0.98

00:04:43.000 I was so proud of myself. 0.64

00:04:45.000 I think by the end it was like dust was coming out.

00:04:48.000 It was funny because I didn't even want to have sex the night time.

00:04:52.000 But it was just kind of like a...

00:04:53.000 Like a matter of principle.

00:04:54.000 It's like if a billionaire is walking down the street and he sees a $100 bill.

00:04:58.000 He's just always going to pick it up.

00:05:00.000 You know what I mean?

00:05:00.000 That was me.

00:05:01.000 I didn't get a lot of pussy when I was younger. 1.00

00:05:02.000 So it's like if a hot chick wanted to fuck me, I didn't even care if I wanted to beg her. 1.00

00:05:06.000 It was just like out of obligation. 1.00

00:05:07.000 17 girls.

00:05:08.000 Yeah.

00:05:09.000 Now, do you pay these girls to come? 1.00

00:05:11.000 No.

00:05:12.000 Okay, so...

00:05:13.000 That's the big misconception, right?

00:05:15.000 Yeah, I'm addressing that on my app.

00:05:17.000 You have an app?

00:05:18.000 Yeah, I've got an app coming out.

00:05:20.000 And I'm just going to basically...

00:05:22.000 But you know what?

00:05:22.000 I'll give it to you for free.

00:05:24.000 Thank you.

00:05:26.000 I'm not opposed to paying for sex.

00:05:28.000 I mean, I have in the past. 1.00

00:05:30.000 I've fucked thousands of girls. 1.00

00:05:33.000 And I've paid for maybe like 10 or 20, something like that. 0.99

00:05:37.000 And it's not because I have any moral dilemma about it.

00:05:41.000 And it's not because I think it's wrong.

00:05:43.000 In fact, I think sex for money is one of the most pure interactions.

00:05:46.000 Because the guy gets what he wants.

00:05:48.000 The girl gets what she wants. 0.62

00:05:49.000 There's no bullshit. 1.00

00:05:50.000 I think this whole sugar daddy, sugar baby thing is the biggest fucked up part. 1.00

00:05:54.000 Because then the guy's pretending to like the girl. 1.00

00:05:57.000 He's pretending he's not fucking other girls. 0.99

00:05:59.000 The girl's pretending to like him. 1.00

00:06:01.000 It's just all this convoluted bullshit. 1.00

00:06:03.000 Well, it is prostitution. 1.00

00:06:04.000 And it is. 0.98

00:06:04.000 At the end of the day, it is paying for sex, right? 0.98

00:06:07.000 But they're not coming out and saying it.

00:06:09.000 It's not like, hey, I want X and I'll give you Y. Like the guy from the Clippers with Donald Sterling and that girl?

00:06:14.000 Come on, man. 0.90

00:06:14.000 That's prostitution. 0.90

00:06:15.000 They're all doing it. 0.87

00:06:16.000 It's L.A., bro.

00:06:17.000 They all have these five girlfriends.

00:06:19.000 They're supporting them.

00:06:20.000 And then the girls have other boyfriends they don't tell. 0.99

00:06:23.000 And it's this whole fucked up thing. 0.93

00:06:25.000 But for me, like I said, it's not a moral thing. 0.97

00:06:28.000 I mean, for me, it's not a monetary thing, obviously. 0.99

00:06:31.000 I'd much prefer to just give a girl money fucker and be done. 1.00

00:06:33.000 But for me, if the girl's not into me, then I'm just kind of not into the sex. 1.00

00:06:38.000 So that's the hang-up for me.

00:06:41.000 That's actually healthy.

00:06:43.000 Yeah, I mean I mean it is I mean people make these big judgments They're gonna make big judgments on you first of all because you're doing some stuff That's just like so far to the right end of the spectrum. 0.89

00:06:54.000 It doesn't even make sense Like how the fuck is he pulling all this off? 0.92

00:06:57.000 It does it's like it seems unattainable So they're gonna make well he's this guy's wrong and these I would never do that and they're saying a bunch of crazy shit because The way you're living is just so bizarre. 0.98

00:07:08.000 But at the end of the day... 0.64

00:07:09.000 Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.

00:07:10.000 People just can't wrap their hands around the fact that...

00:07:13.000 Because so many guys are paying right now.

00:07:16.000 People are tricking off in record numbers.

00:07:18.000 Because of Instagram and all this stuff and the access that people have...

00:07:22.000 Tricking off being paying for sex? 0.87

00:07:24.000 Paying for sex in record numbers. 0.99

00:07:26.000 Like, it's unbelievable.

00:07:28.000 First of all, it should be legal.

00:07:29.000 Just like getting a massage should be legal.

00:07:31.000 Yeah.

00:07:31.000 You know, nobody wants to rub your feet.

00:07:33.000 Nobody wants to suck your dick. 1.00

00:07:34.000 You should be able to pay both of them. 1.00

00:07:35.000 It's the oldest profession, like, since the history of time.

00:07:39.000 It is.

00:07:40.000 Well, not only that, they...

00:07:41.000 They taught chimpanzees the value of currency.

00:07:44.000 They gave chimpanzees coins.

00:07:45.000 And they gave them coins, and then every time the chimps would give the coins back to the people, they'd give them candy. 0.82

00:07:51.000 You know what the chimps did? 1.00

00:07:52.000 The first fucking thing they did, they gave the coins to female chimps and they fucked them. 1.00

00:07:57.000 That's amazing. 1.00

00:07:57.000 That's the first thing they did. 1.00

00:07:59.000 And the researchers were like, Jesus.

00:08:01.000 That is number one.

00:08:02.000 The first thing they did.

00:08:04.000 That's funny.

00:08:04.000 I didn't know that.

00:08:05.000 Yeah, it's hilarious.

00:08:06.000 I used to have a whole bit about it.

00:08:08.000 There's nothing wrong with it. 0.94

00:08:11.000 Making pleasure a crime is ridiculous. 0.71

00:08:15.000 There's no victim. 0.97

00:08:16.000 No one's getting hurt. 0.97

00:08:17.000 Think of all the shitty jobs that you can get paid to do. 0.98

00:08:21.000 You can get paid to clean toilets. 1.00

00:08:23.000 You can get paid to fucking insulate attics. 0.99

00:08:25.000 There's a lot of terrible jobs. 1.00

00:08:26.000 How about you can get I paid to mop up the cum on the floors of these jerk houses or the porn place or whatever. 1.00

00:08:35.000 Like I said, I have no issues with it. 1.00

00:08:39.000 No one should.

00:08:39.000 I think it should be legal.

00:08:41.000 It's a victimless crime.

00:08:43.000 Like I said, for me, it's the mental thing. 1.00

00:08:47.000 I couldn't fuck all the girls if I had five dicks. 1.00

00:08:53.000 What's the point? 1.00

00:08:54.000 And I'm not bragging.

00:08:55.000 I didn't used to. 0.92

00:08:57.000 I'm just kicking you the real deal. 0.67

00:08:59.000 I appreciate it. 0.85

00:09:00.000 I would.

00:09:01.000 I said there's no victims.

00:09:02.000 I guess there's victims of some prostitution, right? 0.94

00:09:05.000 There's people that are abducted and there's certain people that are sex traffic, sex slaves.

00:09:12.000 That's real.

00:09:13.000 But we're not talking about that.

00:09:14.000 Yeah.

00:09:14.000 Yeah, but that's exactly what you said, though.

00:09:17.000 That's sex slavery. 1.00

00:09:18.000 That's not really like a girl saying, hey, I want X or Y. That's her saying, hey, you've got to do this or you're getting your ass beat. 1.00

00:09:24.000 Yeah, there's a way bigger difference between that and a lot of what you see in L.A. is these girls, they want to wear the nice purses and have nice shoes, or they don't really want a job, and they want to live in a nice apartment, but they don't want to work. 1.00

00:09:40.000 How do I work this out? 0.98

00:09:42.000 And by the way, getting back to your last thing, if it was legal, there wouldn't be the pimp saying, hey, you're going to do this, you're going to get your ass beat. 0.97

00:09:49.000 It would all be regulated. 0.99

00:09:51.000 Just like drug dealers.

00:09:52.000 And also, then they'd be getting tested, and there'd just be a whole regulated system.

00:09:58.000 Exactly. 0.97

00:09:58.000 I mean, as much as I hate pain pills and as much as I've lost friends to pain pills and oxys and all this different shit, there's no fucking wars being fought over it. 0.97

00:10:07.000 There's not blood in the streets of Juarez, Mexico over pain pills. 0.99

00:10:10.000 You know, all that shit is over drugs that are illegal. 0.96

00:10:13.000 As soon as those drugs become legal, I think probably less people would use them and you'd get tax dollars from them and at least there would be some sort of a solution in terms of like treatment and responsibility and you'd be able to look at it a little bit differently. 0.99

00:10:27.000 Yeah, I just think there's too much money in kickbacks for that to happen, but I totally agree.

00:10:31.000 I mean, I think alcohol is far worse for you than many drugs.

00:10:35.000 How many times have you seen people get into fights or shoot people or wreck their cars because they're high on weed?

00:10:44.000 It never happens.

00:10:45.000 It never happens.

00:10:46.000 On alcohol, more people are dying from alcohol-related deaths than there are firearms if they want to ban the guns.

00:10:51.000 Yeah, there's a lot of real problems with that, for sure.

00:10:54.000 And, you know, there's also these companies, like the company that makes fentanyl.

00:10:57.000 Is that how you say it?

00:10:59.000 Fentanyl?

00:10:59.000 It's a super strong pain pill, painkiller, that's ten times at least more powerful than OxyContin's, I believe that's what the number is.

00:11:07.000 They're spending $500,000 just to keep marijuana illegal in Arizona.

00:11:12.000 Because they've got it on the ballot to make it recreationally legal in the state of Arizona.

00:11:17.000 So they're putting out all these ads, and they have this whole campaign to try to sway people.

00:11:22.000 But they're just doing it for business.

00:11:24.000 It has nothing to do with public safety or health. 1.00

00:11:27.000 See that fucking thing about Hillary Clinton? 0.99

00:11:29.000 One of the WikiLeaks things? 0.99

00:11:30.000 That Hillary Clinton, the WikiLeaks released some paper where she was in communication with bankers, one of the emails, and she was saying that she was going to stop weed.

00:11:41.000 That she was going to make sure that weed was not legal. 1.00

00:11:44.000 That she was going to do her best and stand her ground and all this nonsense.

00:11:49.000 Leak reveals Clinton promised bankers to stand against marijuana legalization. 1.00

00:11:53.000 Like, what the fuck, Hillary? 1.00

00:11:54.000 She's pretty brutal. 1.00

00:11:55.000 Just what the fuck? 1.00

00:11:57.000 I know you're bought and sold, but don't you have enough money, lady? 1.00

00:12:01.000 How much money you need? 0.99

00:12:02.000 Unless you're gambling with Dan Bilzerian, where the fuck's all your money going? 0.98

00:12:06.000 I mean, it's kind of funny because, uh, what do they pay these presidents? 0.97

00:12:10.000 Like, $250k a year?

00:12:11.000 $400,000 a year and they're all worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

00:12:14.000 Yeah, or billionaires, you know?

00:12:15.000 It's insane.

00:12:16.000 Well, not only that, like, she was trying to say that once Bill got out of the office, he was dead broke. 0.99

00:12:21.000 Well, you're not dead broke now, so how the fuck did you guys make all that money? 0.97

00:12:23.000 They're worth hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. 0.99

00:12:26.000 It's all from speaking arrangements and pay to play and weird fucking shady deals they have with banks and they do these speeches that nobody wants to fucking hear and they pay them a quarter million bucks an hour. 0.98

00:12:38.000 It's all preposterous. 0.93

00:12:40.000 Yeah, I mean, the more money you have and the more you kind of rub shoulders with these people, you kind of get a look behind the curtain and you see that, you know, it's just... 0.97

00:12:47.000 I mean, politics, if you look up the definition of politics, I mean, it's like bullshitting, right?

00:12:53.000 Well, that is being political, right?

00:12:55.000 It's not being yourself, which is the opposite of what you're doing.

00:12:58.000 I mean, you're kind of like an anti-politician in a lot of ways.

00:13:03.000 But what I want to get at, though, is do you get hit up?

00:13:06.000 Because you're so wealthy.

00:13:07.000 Do you get hit up by people that are in the political spectrum that want to use your influence? 0.99

00:13:14.000 How many fucking followers do you have? 0.99

00:13:16.000 It's 19 point something on Instagram. 1.00

00:13:19.000 It's 10 and a half million on Facebook and Twitter.

00:13:22.000 But I mean, yeah.

00:13:24.000 That's insane.

00:13:25.000 That's more than the whole UFC. Yeah, the reach is crazy.

00:13:28.000 Yeah, look at that.

00:13:28.000 19.2 million followers.

00:13:31.000 That's crazy. 0.99

00:13:31.000 And it's all just pictures of you grabbing titties. 0.99

00:13:34.000 Like, look at this one right here. 0.97

00:13:35.000 This one's hilarious.

00:13:37.000 It's like someone told you that you should post something more...

00:13:41.000 Well, my team is like, you gotta clean this up.

00:13:45.000 I'm gonna be your new team. 1.00

00:13:46.000 Fuck your team. 1.00

00:13:47.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:13:49.000 They're like, there's all this money out there.

00:13:51.000 You know, this Rock, he got paid 17 million bucks to endorse Ford.

00:13:56.000 They're like, you can make all this money.

00:13:57.000 He did?

00:13:58.000 Yeah.

00:13:58.000 Oh.

00:13:59.000 What did he do?

00:13:59.000 Did he just drive a truck?

00:14:00.000 Yeah, he basically drives a truck and does a Ford commercial.

00:14:03.000 17 million.

00:14:03.000 It's probably worth it, though, for them.

00:14:04.000 The Rock has like 67 million or some insane shit. 1.00

00:14:08.000 But he's a goddamn movie star. 1.00

00:14:09.000 You're a dude who takes pictures with chicks. 1.00

00:14:11.000 That's the thing, you know? 0.91

00:14:13.000 Like...

00:14:13.000 I feel like I gotta be maybe like the most famous guy that never had like a TV show or like a real talent.

00:14:19.000 Oh, 100%.

00:14:21.000 There's no one even close.

00:14:23.000 It's kind of rare to be like number one in anything, you know?

00:14:25.000 It is.

00:14:25.000 That's kind of cool.

00:14:26.000 You're the number one baller.

00:14:27.000 Well, I don't know about that.

00:14:28.000 From America?

00:14:29.000 You're the number one baller.

00:14:30.000 I'm giving you the crown right now.

00:14:32.000 If I had a little Burger King crown, I'd put it on your head.

00:14:35.000 I could tell you some stories about some guys that got...

00:14:38.000 But they don't know who you are.

00:14:39.000 Nobody knows who they are.

00:14:40.000 You're the number one public baller.

00:14:42.000 Yeah, okay.

00:14:43.000 For sure.

00:14:43.000 I'm the only guy that's kind of putting it out there.

00:14:45.000 Because, you know, most guys, they got a job, they got a wife, they got family, you know, whatever. 1.00

00:14:49.000 I just kind of just said, fuck all of it, you know? 0.99

00:14:51.000 Like, they can accept me or not, and I'm just going to do what I want. 0.99

00:14:54.000 How old are you?

00:14:55.000 35. Do you think that there's going to come a day when this is going to be tired?

00:15:00.000 And if it does come a day, do you think you're ever going to go the marriage route?

00:15:03.000 Is that possible at this point?

00:15:05.000 So look, I mean, I'm a gambler, but I don't want to bet half a minute worth I'm going to love a girl forever.

00:15:10.000 But not to say that I wouldn't have a girlfriend or I'm capable of being monogamous.

00:15:18.000 For me, it's more about options, really. 0.99

00:15:20.000 At the end of the day, it comes down to most guys are in relationships, I feel like, because it's either, hey, I'm going to jerk off on Saturday night, or I've got to put up with her shit and I get laid. 0.98

00:15:31.000 A lot of it's out of laziness, a lot of it's out of lack of options, whatever the case may be, but it's not correct. 0.99

00:15:38.000 For me, I think a correct relationship is a guy that could be fucking five or ten girls, and he chooses to hang out with this one girl because he likes her, We're good to go. 0.90

00:16:08.000 Like, you know, or he's a doctor or whatever. 0.98

00:16:10.000 That to me is more of a part of who that guy is than a girl that's just born hot.

00:16:14.000 So for a guy to like a girl just because she's hot, I feel like is like the most superficial thing of all time.

00:16:20.000 Well, I mean, she has to be nice, too.

00:16:22.000 I mean, hopefully. 0.97

00:16:23.000 She does, but I'm saying a lot of guys are with a girl just because she's hot, and they don't really get as much shit as a girl that's with a guy because he's successful or because he has money. 0.97

00:16:32.000 It's true. 0.98

00:16:32.000 It is true. 0.98

00:16:33.000 It is true. 0.99

00:16:34.000 Like, the guy who earned that money, it's his character and his willpower and his discipline that's allowed him, his smarts has allowed him to earn that money, or he just got lucky as fuck. 0.87

00:16:43.000 There's definitely some lucky ones, but you also have to hold on to it. 0.99

00:16:47.000 Once you've got money, you've got every asshole and their mother with their hand out trying to scam you. 1.00

00:16:52.000 It's easy to fuck it off or make bad investments or whatever the case may be. 1.00

00:16:58.000 Yeah, it is. 1.00

00:16:59.000 It is a funny little situation there, isn't it? 0.99

00:17:03.000 It's also the way women are allowed to dress, even like a respectable woman is allowed to have her tits pressed together and pushed up and she's allowed to have a skirt that's just like a little light vagina curtain, you know? 1.00

00:17:18.000 And that's really all it is. 0.99

00:17:19.000 Little panties underneath and smooth legs and high heels. 0.97

00:17:22.000 I mean, the whole thing is sex. 0.99

00:17:23.000 It's just selling lust. 0.99

00:17:25.000 Let's talk about bathing suits.

00:17:27.000 I mean, the fact that every bathing suit now is basically a thong.

00:17:31.000 And the fact that a bathing suit shows more than the most revealing underwear back in the day ever used to, right?

00:17:38.000 But it's completely socially acceptable.

00:17:40.000 Then on Halloween, they can wear even less than that. 1.00

00:17:42.000 They paint their tits. 1.00

00:17:43.000 Yeah, it's literally butt naked. 1.00

00:17:45.000 They're allowed to wear paint. 0.99

00:17:46.000 When the fuck did paint become clothes? 1.00

00:17:48.000 Imagine if we put paint on our dick and went out. 1.00

00:17:50.000 You get arrested, right? 1.00

00:17:51.000 Well, how come a girl can wear paint on her tits, but you can't wear paint on your dick? 1.00

00:17:54.000 I want to know. 1.00

00:17:55.000 Yeah, it's...

00:17:56.000 I want to know.

00:17:57.000 Well, it's a double standard.

00:17:58.000 It is a double standard. 1.00

00:17:59.000 Nobody wants to see your dick painted up. 1.00

00:18:01.000 That's why. 1.00

00:18:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:18:02.000 Especially if it's, like, American flag or something. 0.99

00:18:04.000 Yeah, I don't want to see a bunch of zebra dicks. 1.00

00:18:08.000 It is weird. 0.99

00:18:09.000 There are weird double standards, but it's also people don't want to open their mouth because they don't want...

00:18:13.000 First of all, they don't want anybody to think that they...

00:18:15.000 You know, like, why do women get to do this? 1.00

00:18:17.000 Oh, what are you complaining?

00:18:18.000 Poor guy.

00:18:19.000 You know, you don't want to hear that.

00:18:20.000 But it's also...

00:18:22.000 When men complain about the double standard in marriage, like what you said, as far as it being a gamble, it's a terrible gamble for a wealthy man.

00:18:32.000 It's terrible.

00:18:34.000 It's essentially a financial agreement.

00:18:36.000 It's not a love agreement.

00:18:37.000 Well, no, you're asking the government permission to be with a girl, and if you decide that you don't want to be with them, now you have to go ask the government, and then you have to get lawyers involved.

00:18:47.000 And it's this whole process that, in my eyes, it makes both parties feel...

00:18:51.000 Well, not both parties, because usually it's kind of like a magnet.

00:18:54.000 One is pushing a little bit further than the other.

00:18:56.000 So there's one kind of always chasing or whatever.

00:18:59.000 So for me, it just makes the party that's a little bit less invested just feel trapped.

00:19:04.000 And when you're in a relationship and you feel trapped, the first thing you want to do is run, right?

00:19:08.000 So you got this one person that inevitably ends up feeling trapped, and the other person...

00:19:14.000 You know, kind of gets lazy or complacent and I feel like it just snowballs.

00:19:18.000 You know, there's like a lot of momentum things, right?

00:19:20.000 So if relationships just starts kind of going downhill and you're trapped in it because you're legally bound, I just feel like it's just going to get worse and worse and the girl's going to stop giving the Blowjobs and the guy's going to resent it and then maybe he cheats. 0.80

00:19:32.000 You know what I mean?

00:19:32.000 It's like this whole cycle that just wouldn't happen if you were hanging out because you wanted to hang out.

00:19:37.000 Because let's face it, if you're hanging out with a chick and you like her and she's cool and then she just decides to just completely let herself go and she turns into a fat ass or she just stops wanting to have sex, you're just going to fuck other girls or you're just not going to hang out with her, right? 1.00

00:19:50.000 But if you're married to her, you don't really have a choice. 1.00

00:19:53.000 I mean, now you're kind of like, you've got to ask the government permission and this and that.

00:19:56.000 Yeah, you've got to get lawyers involved.

00:19:57.000 You live in the same place.

00:19:59.000 It takes forever.

00:20:01.000 You have to agree on terms.

00:20:03.000 And you have to pay for her lawyer.

00:20:04.000 Yeah, I mean, how brutal is that?

00:20:06.000 You're literally trapped in the same house as the person. 1.00

00:20:09.000 It's just like, fuck, man. 1.00

00:20:10.000 It can get crazy. 1.00

00:20:12.000 It can get crazy.

00:20:13.000 And I've seen it get crazy.

00:20:14.000 I'm sure you have, too.

00:20:15.000 When people get divorced.

00:20:16.000 I mean, it is one of the most stressful things a person can go through in their life.

00:20:21.000 And when you're working, you're working all day.

00:20:24.000 And if she's not working, that's when it's really crazy.

00:20:27.000 I had a buddy who was going through a divorce.

00:20:28.000 His wife never worked. 0.99

00:20:30.000 And he was working, you know, 10, 12 hours a day, just busting his ass constantly at his own business. 1.00

00:20:34.000 And she would be fucking off. 0.99

00:20:37.000 Doing whatever she wanted during the day. 1.00

00:20:39.000 He had to pay for all that on top of paying for her lawyer, and her lawyer was trying to fuck him. 0.99

00:20:44.000 And then he had to pay for his lawyer to battle her lawyer, and they all just dragged the whole thing out. 0.97

00:20:49.000 It took over a year and a half for him to get divorced. 0.99

00:20:51.000 So it was a year and a half, this poor bastard just, I mean, he's free now, but god damn, but try to get him married now. 1.00

00:20:57.000 He'll fucking shoot you in the face if you even bring up that word. 1.00

00:21:00.000 It's like, he went through it. 1.00

00:21:01.000 I mean, they have a term for it in gambling.

00:21:04.000 It's a negative free roll.

00:21:05.000 It's where you can basically only lose.

00:21:06.000 You have no upside.

00:21:08.000 For instance, a negative free roll is like, if I were to tell you, hey, if you can go bench press 300 pounds, I'll give you $10,000.

00:21:16.000 Well, I just can't win anything.

00:21:18.000 You know what I mean?

00:21:19.000 Because if you can't do it, then I don't get anything.

00:21:20.000 So it's kind of like, in my eyes, I just feel like it's a situation where you can just lose.

00:21:25.000 It's kind of like...

00:21:26.000 My buddy, he got into a relationship and he just dove in super hardcore really fast.

00:21:31.000 And I just told him, I said, look, I just feel like you don't have a lot of upside by doing that because you can get hurt.

00:21:37.000 And if you just take it slow, worst case scenario, you just weren't quite as close for a month.

00:21:43.000 But I said, if it doesn't work out, then now you invested all this time and this effort.

00:21:51.000 And I feel like because he went so hardcore for this girl, it kind of like...

00:21:56.000 You know, sometimes it makes them run away a little bit because they know, you know, people, you know, they just by nature want what they can't have, right?

00:22:03.000 So if you just give it all to them immediately, then it's kind of like, yeah. 0.99

00:22:06.000 They're like, look at this bitch. 1.00

00:22:07.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

00:22:08.000 They kind of like lose respect for you a little bit.

00:22:10.000 It can happen or it can be perfect.

00:22:12.000 You know, relationships just have to be organic.

00:22:14.000 That's what it really has to be.

00:22:15.000 And as soon as you involve legal contracts, it's not organic anymore.

00:22:18.000 Exactly.

00:22:19.000 Like once it, once, I feel like once it starts to be forced in any way.

00:22:24.000 Well, it's when there's no prenuptial, too.

00:22:26.000 That's when things get really screwy.

00:22:28.000 You know, when you find out how much people actually have to pay.

00:22:30.000 Like, I've talked about it on my podcast before, but I have another buddy who's paying his ex-wife for the rest of her life.

00:22:36.000 They were married for 12 years.

00:22:38.000 He has to pay her forever.

00:22:39.000 Forever!

00:22:39.000 Yeah.

00:22:40.000 She's got a new boyfriend.

00:22:41.000 He's married.

00:22:41.000 He's got kids now with another woman.

00:22:43.000 That's the most brutal part is when they get the boyfriend and now you're like supporting this dude to bang your wife.

00:22:48.000 Not only that, the dude lives in his house and every time they send a lawyer over to check, the guy packs up his stuff.

00:22:54.000 It's like a joke.

00:22:55.000 He throws it in a U-Haul. 1.00

00:22:57.000 He drives around the corner, waits for the inspector to leave, goes all the way around and brings his shit back. 1.00

00:23:01.000 It's fucking insanity. 1.00

00:23:03.000 Because, you know, he's got this baller house in the Palisades he's living with this girl. 1.00

00:23:07.000 And the only way she could screw it up is if she marries this guy.

00:23:10.000 But this guy doesn't have any money.

00:23:11.000 So, she's never gonna marry this guy.

00:23:13.000 I mean, she would have to bank on marrying this guy would be worth, I think my buddy pays her somewhere around a half million dollars a year. 0.98

00:23:20.000 Forever!

00:23:22.000 Forever!

00:23:23.000 For life!

00:23:24.000 So crazy.

00:23:24.000 So they were married for 12 years.

00:23:26.000 They've been divorced for 15?

00:23:28.000 So he's been paying her longer than they were married. 1.00

00:23:34.000 Just wanna just fucking jump off a bridge. 0.98

00:23:36.000 But that's, you know, like I said, a negative frugal. 0.99

00:23:38.000 I don't see the upside, right?

00:23:40.000 Well, it's so rare that it works out the other way.

00:23:42.000 It's so rare that a woman has to pay a man. 1.00

00:23:44.000 And it's one of those things where men are being victimized left and right by this. 1.00

00:23:49.000 And when you talk to people about it, they're like, oh, well, you fucked up. 0.99

00:23:53.000 Well, you shouldn't have done it. 0.99

00:23:54.000 Well, you should have got a prenup. 1.00

00:23:55.000 Well, okay, maybe.

00:23:56.000 Maybe you could say all those things.

00:23:58.000 Yes, maybe it was a mistake.

00:23:59.000 But it was obviously a mistake under the whole spell of love.

00:24:04.000 And to have this be a financial entanglement that can trap you...

00:24:08.000 I'm talking about my friend doesn't even have any kids.

00:24:10.000 He didn't have any kids with this lady.

00:24:12.000 So...

00:24:14.000 It's insanity.

00:24:15.000 It's just a robbery.

00:24:17.000 It's just a legalized robbery.

00:24:18.000 And I was having this conversation with a buddy of mine who is married.

00:24:21.000 He's like, well, you know, I don't look at it that way.

00:24:24.000 I go, look at it this way.

00:24:25.000 The business of divorce, and it is a business.

00:24:29.000 Whenever there's money involved in something, there's a bunch of people that try to figure out how to extract that money.

00:24:33.000 The only money is in taking the money from the rich guy.

00:24:37.000 That's where the money comes from.

00:24:39.000 That's the only way you get the money.

00:24:40.000 You don't get the money if the girl doesn't make much money. 1.00

00:24:44.000 And everybody wins if the rich guy gets fucked. 0.98

00:24:47.000 So if the legal battle for the divorce lasts two years as opposed to two minutes, everybody gets paid. 1.00

00:24:54.000 Both lawyers on both sides make a substantial amount of money, the woman gets a substantial amount of money, the guy gets fucking drained like a vampire. 0.97

00:25:02.000 And that's what happens, predominantly. 0.95

00:25:05.000 Yeah, which is usually the outcome of, you know, a lot of times when a rich guy gets involved in anything is, yeah, he gets drained. 0.97

00:25:11.000 And that kind of goes back to my previous point of why I feel like women that are attracted to guys that are successful, you know, it makes sense because there's just so many people trying to take that motherfucker down, you know? 0.98

00:25:23.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:25:23.000 When you're at the top of the hill, like, you know, everybody wants to... 0.96

00:25:27.000 Get up there and bring you down. 0.95

00:25:29.000 Well, it's just nature. 1.00

00:25:30.000 I mean, it's just like a moose having a fucking giant set of antlers. 0.99

00:25:35.000 All the other moose are like, oh, look at those antlers. 0.98

00:25:37.000 I mean, it's a thing that exists in all different species.

00:25:42.000 I mean, there's no denying that when a guy pulls up in a Rolls Royce and he flies in his own private jet and he does a bunch of things that nobody else can do, that people just go, oh.

00:25:53.000 And women automatically, genetically, get attracted to that guy for some strange reason.

00:25:58.000 There's you.

00:25:59.000 There you are, buddy.

00:26:00.000 Ballin'. 0.86

00:26:00.000 Ballin' out of control. 0.86

00:26:02.000 How did you get all your money originally?

00:26:06.000 So that's another common misconception.

00:26:10.000 And I didn't really...

00:26:13.000 I didn't really talk about it or say anything about it just because it helped me out so much in poker. 0.99

00:26:20.000 But everybody just thought that I was a rich trust fund idiot. 0.97

00:26:24.000 And my parents gave me all my money. 0.98

00:26:26.000 So that actually allowed me to get into a lot of these poker games.

00:26:30.000 Because they thought you were a fish.

00:26:32.000 Yeah, it's like a weird thing.

00:26:33.000 It's not just that, but...

00:26:37.000 In poker, I've noticed that if a guy loses money to another guy and he knows that that money is going to help that other guy out or his quality of life is going to be improved by that money, it really fucking irritates him. 0.88

00:26:48.000 Really?

00:26:49.000 Yeah, and I'm guilty of it too. 0.99

00:26:51.000 If I lose $5 million to a billionaire, it doesn't bother me nearly as much as if I lose maybe a couple hundred thousand to some guy that's pretty broke and now he goes out and buys a new fucking car with my money and I'm just like, this fucking guy. 0.97

00:27:04.000 You know what I mean? 0.98

00:27:04.000 Oh, that's weird. 0.98

00:27:05.000 I don't know why.

00:27:06.000 And it's kind of counterintuitive.

00:27:09.000 But another thing about it is if you lose money to a guy that has a bunch, you always think that there's a chance you could win it back, too.

00:27:15.000 So there's that piece of it.

00:27:17.000 If you lose money to a guy that doesn't really have much and he goes out and spends it, well, you're never getting it back again.

00:27:24.000 Yeah, that exists in pool. 0.90

00:27:25.000 A lot of guys don't want to gamble with guys who only have one barrel.

00:27:28.000 A guy will play a game of pool for $100, but he's only got $100, but you might have $10,000.

00:27:32.000 Exactly.

00:27:33.000 So you look at your upside, it's like, okay, best case scenario, I walk away from this with this guy's last $100, which to me, some guys get off on that.

00:27:39.000 To me, I don't really ever want to break a guy.

00:27:42.000 But then you look at the downswing of that, it's like, okay, I could spend $10,000 trying to chase my initial $100 that I lost.

00:27:50.000 So you have to take that.

00:27:51.000 There's just a lot of things in gambling that you have to take into account with the money management side.

00:27:56.000 Psychological things.

00:27:56.000 Yeah.

00:27:57.000 So how did you make your money then?

00:27:58.000 Playing poker.

00:27:59.000 You made it all playing poker?

00:28:01.000 Yeah.

00:28:01.000 Wow, that is insane.

00:28:02.000 It is.

00:28:03.000 So what did you do for a living before you played poker?

00:28:06.000 I mean, I was in the military for four years, and when I got out, got honorable discharge, and I was getting some disability money from the VA just because I got a lot of injuries when I was going through BUDS, and not even just injuries,

00:28:21.000 just all the medical checks that they do.

00:28:23.000 They just document all the things that are wrong with you, so you get a percentage for all those things. 0.99

00:28:27.000 Like what kind of shit was wrong with you? 0.99

00:28:29.000 Fuck, I mean, first time I went in, I had bilateral stress fractures, so I was, you know, I went into buds of broken legs, and so I was, you know, eating a bunch of Motrin, it burned a hole in my stomach, I had acid reflux, they ended up getting so bad they were actually going to kick me out of the Navy for it. 1.00

00:28:44.000 So you were going through buds with broken legs? 0.99

00:28:46.000 The first time I went in, yeah, nobody knew that.

00:28:48.000 You just thought your legs were sore?

00:28:50.000 Well, no, I got medically dropped.

00:28:51.000 So, I mean, it's kind of a long story, but I'll try and give you the cliff notes.

00:28:56.000 So I went to boot camp, and the furthest I'd ever ran was like two miles.

00:29:01.000 And it was straight out of high school, because I got thrown in jail my senior year of high school.

00:29:05.000 So I didn't graduate.

00:29:06.000 I got to get GED. See that, kids?

00:29:09.000 You don't need a degree.

00:29:10.000 Yeah.

00:29:11.000 Just learn how to play poker.

00:29:12.000 Well, we'll get to that.

00:29:14.000 So...

00:29:16.000 Ended up joining the military, go through boot camp. 0.99

00:29:18.000 In A school, I was trying to ramp up because I'm like, fuck, I'm going to SEAL training. 0.99

00:29:22.000 I've got to start running. 0.98

00:29:24.000 So I started running.

00:29:25.000 I got an overuse injury, turned into a stress fracture.

00:29:28.000 They basically put me on a medical hold.

00:29:31.000 And my detailer said, look, you can stay on this medical hold until your legs are healed, and then I'm going to send you to a ship for two years, and then you can apply, or else you can get cleared and go straight to SEAL training.

00:29:41.000 I was like, okay.

00:29:42.000 Got cleared.

00:29:42.000 Went to SEAL training.

00:29:43.000 They dropped me the first day.

00:29:44.000 I had to request to talk to the captain.

00:29:46.000 And finally the captain's like, okay, you know, I'll let you try.

00:29:50.000 Because I basically said, look, just give me a shot.

00:29:51.000 I'm already here.

00:29:52.000 Like, let me just train.

00:29:54.000 What's the worst that can happen?

00:29:55.000 I'm not going to die.

00:29:56.000 I can, you know, break the leg worse.

00:29:57.000 So I said, if I make it through hell week, just give me a medical role.

00:30:00.000 He's like, yeah, sure, kid.

00:30:01.000 Go ahead.

00:30:01.000 So the guy let me train.

00:30:03.000 That was actually the first bet I made. 0.92

00:30:05.000 My doctor, who was like a Vietnam SEAL, he was so fucking pissed that the CO allowed me to train. 0.91

00:30:11.000 So he's like, I'll bet you $100 you don't make it through hell week. 0.95

00:30:14.000 It was $100 or $20, I forget which. 0.99

00:30:16.000 But I bet the guy and I won the fucking money. 0.98

00:30:18.000 And three weeks after, I was just, I mean, I could barely walk, you know. 0.99

00:30:23.000 So I ended up getting rolled and they kicked me out.

00:30:27.000 And so I went to my ship and the ship was like, the captain of the ship wanted to take me out to sea, even though I was supposed to be on crutches. 0.99

00:30:36.000 So I was like, this motherfucker. 0.98

00:30:37.000 So after going through the hardest thing and then getting dropped, now I'm on a boat and I'm supposed to be healing up and this guy wants to take me out at sea. 0.99

00:30:48.000 So I go to Okinawa and I requested to go in to see my wisdom teeth.

00:30:53.000 And then when I was there, I was like, hey, check my legs.

00:30:55.000 They're like, okay, we'll do a nuclear bone scan.

00:30:58.000 So when I was supposed to go in, they said, come back in two hours.

00:31:02.000 So I went for a two hour run. 0.98

00:31:04.000 And in just like my fucking, not even like my fatigues, it was like a work uniform. 0.98

00:31:10.000 It was like a button-down shirt. 0.99

00:31:12.000 I went for a two-hour run, took a shower, came back, and I looked at my legs, and I'm like, your legs are fucking destroyed. 0.98

00:31:17.000 Like, I can't believe you can walk. 1.00

00:31:18.000 I'm like, yeah, these motherfuckers, you know? 1.00

00:31:21.000 And so they were gonna kick me out of the Navy. 0.99

00:31:23.000 So I was gonna get medically discharged from the Navy, and it took them so long that I actually requested to go back.

00:31:32.000 And I just, I'll never forget, because I went in to talk to the CO of my, it was like a limited duty security detail or whatever, and he goes, let me get this straight.

00:31:42.000 He goes, you're about to be medically retired from the military, he goes, for broken legs, and you want me to request, or approve a request for you to go to SEAL training. 1.00

00:31:52.000 He goes, how fucking stupid are you? 1.00

00:31:55.000 And I was just like, I didn't really know what to say. 1.00

00:31:58.000 I was like, sir, you know, this and that. 0.99

00:32:00.000 He's just like, he's like, get the fuck out of my office. 0.96

00:32:03.000 And I was like, thinking about it. 1.00

00:32:04.000 I was like, well, fuck. 0.99

00:32:05.000 I'm like healed. 1.00

00:32:06.000 I've been doing steroids.

00:32:08.000 I feel great. 0.99

00:32:08.000 I've been fucking working out. 0.99

00:32:10.000 It's been like eight months, right? 0.99

00:32:11.000 I feel like I could go do this again.

00:32:14.000 So I ended up pulling some strings, and basically I just had to get cleared, and then I had to pray that I got sent to BUDS, because if not, I'd go to a ship, and then I had to...

00:32:24.000 It was just like, it would be the biggest disaster of all time.

00:32:27.000 So that was one of my biggest gambles, was doing that. 0.96

00:32:30.000 I had a free ride for the rest of my life, medically retired, I'm a disabled veteran, all this great shit, and I kind of gave it up to go back. 1.00

00:32:42.000 Yeah, I went into his office and he goes, you might be the stupidest motherfucker I've ever seen. 1.00

00:32:48.000 He goes, you just better hope that you don't end up back at this command. 1.00

00:32:52.000 He goes, you're going to be cleaning fucking toilets until you get discharged. 0.99

00:32:58.000 And yeah, so that was... 0.99

00:33:00.000 So how would they have paid you for life from broken legs?

00:33:05.000 I mean, don't the legs heal up and then you're okay?

00:33:07.000 That's the thing.

00:33:08.000 It had been basically since it was documented because when I got out of boot camp in A school, I had them.

00:33:15.000 And I had them all through BUDS. Where is it broken?

00:33:20.000 Bilateral tibial stress fracture.

00:33:21.000 So my tibia is.

00:33:24.000 That's the big one, right?

00:33:25.000 The fibula is the smaller one.

00:33:26.000 The shin?

00:33:27.000 Yeah, it was in the shins.

00:33:29.000 I don't remember which, but I think it was the bigger one.

00:33:32.000 Ahem.

00:33:33.000 And then so all through Bud's and then you know on the boat so it was basically like you know I had broken legs for like a year and a half or a year and seven months.

00:33:41.000 It was insane.

00:33:42.000 It was basically like they're like okay well this guy's legs are just never gonna fucking heal right like that was kind of like the military's take on it was like okay well he's been on limited duty like this and that like his legs should have healed by now and they just aren't so what are we gonna do with them?

00:33:56.000 So why wasn't it healing?

00:33:57.000 I'm still confused.

00:33:58.000 Well, because I went through SEAL training, that kind of fucked him up a little bit. 0.96

00:34:01.000 Just fucked him up further. 0.97

00:34:02.000 And then, you know, I was on the boat, and I wasn't allowed to use crutches. 0.99

00:34:07.000 And then I think, obviously, the final straw was probably me fucking going on a two-hour run. 0.90

00:34:13.000 So did you do that on purpose? 1.00

00:34:15.000 Fuck yeah, I did it on purpose, yeah. 1.00

00:34:17.000 But what was the goal of fucking your legs? 1.00

00:34:20.000 To get the fuck off the ship. 1.00

00:34:21.000 I was like, this captain was such a dickhead. 1.00

00:34:24.000 It's like, bro, I went through all this fucking pain. 1.00

00:34:27.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:34:27.000 I went through SEAL training. 0.99

00:34:29.000 It's like, let my legs heal, you fucking cocksucker. 1.00

00:34:31.000 The guy wanted me to stand watches on the boat. 1.00

00:34:34.000 It was basically like a fuck you to him. 1.00

00:34:37.000 So you crushed your own legs to get off the boat and then tried to get into SEAL training? 1.00

00:34:42.000 Yeah, well, it took them so long, you know, it took them so long to process me out of the military that they had healed, and so I was just like, oh, fuck. 1.00

00:34:48.000 Wow. 0.99

00:34:49.000 That's hilarious.

00:34:50.000 So just from those broken legs, you could have been set up where you got a pension forever.

00:34:55.000 Yeah.

00:34:55.000 Wow.

00:34:55.000 And not only that, but, like, if you're, like, a disabled veteran, you get, like, you're eligible for, like, a lot of shit.

00:35:01.000 You know, if you're, like, medically retired, it's kind of like, you know, you went in the military and you tried to, you know, Be in there forever and you just got injured. 0.96

00:35:09.000 You know what I mean?

00:35:09.000 So they make a lot of allowances for people like that.

00:35:13.000 I think they give you your first loan in your house for free. 1.00

00:35:16.000 There's a whole bunch of shit. 0.99

00:35:18.000 I remember because I looked into it when I gave it all up. 0.99

00:35:21.000 So then, what happens then? 0.96

00:35:24.000 So then I went back into the BUDS or SEAL training or whatever, and I made it two days before graduation, and I got rolled all the way back to the beginning, and then I did the whole fucking thing again. 0.78

00:35:41.000 Why'd you get rolled all the way back to the beginning? 1.00

00:35:45.000 When I went through the second time, I kind of had the attitude of just like, fuck, I've already done this shit. 0.99

00:35:51.000 And I just, you know, also, I don't know. 0.99

00:35:54.000 I mean, I was just in great shape and I just, I wasn't worried about anything.

00:35:58.000 So my attitude was like, okay, well, worst case scenario, I'm just going to get beat and I don't really care.

00:36:03.000 So I just would, I just figured if I passed everything and I like performed well and I didn't quit, like they couldn't kick me out. 0.91

00:36:10.000 So I kind of didn't really kiss ass or anything. 0.95

00:36:13.000 I was just like, whatever. 0.99

00:36:14.000 And if I fucked up, I was like, okay, I'll get beat. 0.96

00:36:17.000 I was a pretty hard dude. 0.94

00:36:19.000 I've been training for two years, and I'd already been through Hell Week, and now I'm doing it without broken legs.

00:36:24.000 Doing it with broken legs.

00:36:26.000 Now I'm healed. 1.00

00:36:27.000 I'm like, fuck. 0.99

00:36:29.000 Nothing's going to be bad now. 0.99

00:36:30.000 So it's like, where's it going to happen?

00:36:32.000 I'm going to get hypothermia, I'm going to have to do some push-ups, whatever.

00:36:35.000 I just didn't really have a good attitude, and I wasn't too worried about the other guys in the class, because I figured I would lose most of them.

00:36:43.000 I started off with 239 guys, and we came through Hell Week with 34. My first class, we started with 119, and we came through with 17. So you're going to lose most of these guys.

00:36:57.000 I don't know.

00:36:59.000 I wasn't much of a team player.

00:37:00.000 I just wanted to graduate.

00:37:03.000 So, but how'd they kick you back then?

00:37:05.000 Well, so I got one safety violation for the instructor gave the wrong order.

00:37:12.000 We're on the range and we're facing downrange and he gave an about face and drop.

00:37:17.000 So half the class just did what we're supposed to do.

00:37:20.000 You know, we did the about face and we dropped, but now we're like pointing downrange, right?

00:37:24.000 So half the class got a safety violation for that.

00:37:26.000 Oh.

00:37:26.000 And then the second one was we were doing IADS, like these live fire drills, and half the class was behind the berm, the other half was doing it, and then we switched.

00:37:36.000 And I was behind the berm, and my office...

00:37:39.000 What's a berm?

00:37:40.000 It's like a big mound of dirt.

00:37:42.000 Okay.

00:37:42.000 And the officer in charge of my class, he didn't really like me, so he had me on watch every single night.

00:37:47.000 And he put me on the middle watch.

00:37:49.000 So out on the island, you get six hours of sleep max if you fall asleep when you get off, and then you wake up the second and you don't clean any of your gear, you get six hours.

00:37:59.000 So he put me on a watch in the middle.

00:38:01.000 So I got maybe like an hour in the beginning, and then I'd just wake up for two hours with a watch, and then maybe if I could go back to bed, I'd get like an hour, maybe two hours of sleep.

00:38:09.000 So I was running on real low sleep, and so I was behind the berm, and I just, you know, I fell asleep.

00:38:14.000 It wasn't a big deal.

00:38:15.000 Most guys did.

00:38:16.000 But my boat crew leader didn't wake me up because he didn't like me. 0.98

00:38:20.000 So now I'm technically sleeping during a live fire drill because they did a class muster, and I'm fucking sleeping. 0.98

00:38:27.000 So guns are going off and you're sleeping? 0.99

00:38:29.000 Yeah.

00:38:30.000 I mean, other guys did too.

00:38:31.000 Yeah.

00:38:31.000 I mean, we're just like, we're sitting there because it's like 40 minutes or something.

00:38:35.000 They're doing their shit and we're just laying there. 0.99

00:38:37.000 We're not doing it. 1.00

00:38:38.000 We're not supposed to be involved or, you know, we're just, they could only have half the class on the range.

00:38:42.000 So half is just sitting there and then the other half is doing it. 1.00

00:38:45.000 And fuck, man. 1.00

00:38:46.000 Like, I mean, dude, during hell week, I fell asleep standing up, you know? 1.00

00:38:49.000 Wow.

00:38:50.000 So it's like, yeah, you get tired enough, you fall asleep like no matter what.

00:38:54.000 So...

00:38:55.000 So you came out of that.

00:38:56.000 So yeah, so I got rolled all the way back.

00:38:58.000 So basically they put me in front of the thing and they're like, well, you got two safety violations, whatever.

00:39:04.000 And I was just like, you know, I was like, well, I didn't really even explain.

00:39:07.000 I didn't even really like, at the time you're like so brainwashed that these guys are like gods that you don't even really want to argue with them because they're your instructors.

00:39:14.000 It's like, You can't even have a conversation with these guys.

00:39:17.000 If they ask you a question, your answers are like, hoo-yah.

00:39:19.000 You don't even say yes or no.

00:39:21.000 So you're so conditioned to not argue that I didn't really defend what happened.

00:39:28.000 Because if I would have walked in there and defended half the class, just given the explanation, but I didn't really want to argue with these instructors because you're just so brainwashed.

00:39:38.000 Anyways, so I basically told them, I said, look, I don't care. 0.99

00:39:41.000 I'll go do the whole fucking thing again. 0.99

00:39:44.000 And they're like, oh yeah? 1.00

00:39:45.000 I was like, yeah. 0.98

00:39:46.000 I was like, I'll do the whole fucking course again. 0.99

00:39:48.000 So they rolled me all the way back and did the whole fucking thing again. 0.99

00:39:52.000 And this instructor that didn't like me, he couldn't even find excuses the third time. 0.99

00:39:57.000 He just admin dropped me.

00:39:58.000 I didn't even know that was a good thing.

00:39:59.000 I didn't even know you could get admin drop.

00:40:01.000 But yeah, I just got admin.

00:40:03.000 So you made it all the way through and he admin dropped you?

00:40:05.000 Do you think he stalks your Instagram page right now?

00:40:08.000 I don't know, but...

00:40:09.000 Think he remembers you?

00:40:11.000 Probably, probably, yeah.

00:40:13.000 I mean, he's probably heard of me now.

00:40:15.000 I mean, you know, the SEAL community is definitely, you know, it's love or hate with me. 0.96

00:40:19.000 Like, you know, the guys that know me usually, you know, have good things to say, and the guys that don't usually all talk shit, but... 0.95

00:40:24.000 So you get out. 0.95

00:40:26.000 And then what happens?

00:40:28.000 So I get out.

00:40:29.000 I did my four years.

00:40:30.000 Got out.

00:40:31.000 And I went to college.

00:40:34.000 Went to UF. And did four years there.

00:40:38.000 That sounds like the military too.

00:40:40.000 I did four years.

00:40:41.000 Yeah.

00:40:42.000 Pay my dues.

00:40:43.000 Prison?

00:40:43.000 Yeah, I mean, no, it was fun.

00:40:45.000 I had a great time in college.

00:40:46.000 My brother taught me how to play poker, like, the first year, because I was getting all this money from the VA and the GI Bill, and I got grants.

00:40:54.000 I was eligible for everything, right?

00:40:56.000 And that's where you learned how to play poker?

00:40:57.000 Yeah, my brother taught me, and then I was playing in college.

00:41:00.000 I was playing, like, some online stuff.

00:41:02.000 I had a couple fraternity brothers that were real into it, and they taught me a little bit, and there's some home games, and Yeah, that's how I started.

00:41:10.000 I went broke my sophomore year.

00:41:13.000 It was a wild ride.

00:41:17.000 I had to sell some guns.

00:41:18.000 I went and played on a gambling boat for like a week.

00:41:21.000 I sold three guns for $750, played on this gambling boat for a week, turned it into $10,000, went to Vegas, and then turned that into $187,000 at Bellagio after playing for three weeks straight.

00:41:34.000 Never forget it.

00:41:35.000 Wow.

00:41:35.000 So that was the launching point.

00:41:37.000 187,000 at the Bellagio.

00:41:39.000 Three weeks, yeah.

00:41:40.000 The Bellagio created Dan Bilzerian, essentially.

00:41:43.000 Yeah.

00:41:43.000 They started it.

00:41:46.000 So there you go and you just become this crazy baller poker player character.

00:41:52.000 Well, I mean, it was a slow rise.

00:41:54.000 I mean, it wasn't...

00:41:55.000 How long did it take?

00:41:58.000 I mean, that was...

00:42:00.000 That was 2005. I got really lucky.

00:42:05.000 I came into poker at a time when nobody really knew how to play. 0.98

00:42:09.000 This fucking guy, Chris Moneymaker, he turned $25 into a $2 million or $3 million win, and he wasn't even that great, so it was like the new gold rush. 0.98

00:42:19.000 Everybody wanted to play poker. 0.99

00:42:20.000 Rounders had just come out.

00:42:21.000 Oh, that's what it was. 1.00

00:42:22.000 That fucking movie. 1.00

00:42:23.000 I remember that. 1.00

00:42:24.000 It was that.

00:42:25.000 Celebrity started playing, and it was just like...

00:42:28.000 And there wasn't really any training tools.

00:42:31.000 The game hadn't been solved.

00:42:33.000 Even the pros weren't that good back then.

00:42:36.000 Really?

00:42:37.000 Yeah.

00:42:38.000 Back in the day, the old pros, the way they won, they just cheated.

00:42:43.000 Really?

00:42:44.000 Yeah.

00:42:45.000 How'd they cheat? 1.00

00:42:45.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

00:42:46.000 I mean, there's marked cards. 1.00

00:42:47.000 There's cold decks.

00:42:49.000 There's a million ways to cheat.

00:42:50.000 I've never played poker.

00:42:51.000 I mean, I might have played once in high school or something like that.

00:42:54.000 I've never played.

00:42:55.000 My friend Ari, Ari Shafir, when he was struggling in Hollywood, when he's a stand-up comedian, and when he was just starting out, he would make his money playing poker.

00:43:05.000 He'd go to poker tournaments, and he made way more money playing poker than he ever did doing stand-up.

00:43:10.000 Yeah, actually, I mean, I'll tell you the story of how I dropped out of college.

00:43:12.000 Can I piss real quick?

00:43:13.000 Yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

00:43:14.000 No worries, man.

00:43:16.000 Go ahead.

00:43:16.000 We're right here.

00:43:17.000 Sorry, I drank a bunch of water.

00:43:18.000 I just want to point out, Dan Bilzerian and I wear the same pants.

00:43:22.000 Both wearing camo pants.

00:43:23.000 I think he deserves them more than me though.

00:43:25.000 He went to Hell Week.

00:43:26.000 I've just hidden from animals.

00:43:28.000 Three times.

00:43:29.000 Yeah, but my pants are fake.

00:43:31.000 I mean, I just bought them on Amazon.

00:43:34.000 They're not like real camo either.

00:43:37.000 It's not like Kuyu or First Light or anything. 0.99

00:43:40.000 What a fucking character though, huh? 1.00

00:43:42.000 That's crazy shit, right? 1.00

00:43:44.000 Like, uh, a lot of people hate on that dude. 1.00

00:43:46.000 I've met him a couple of times.

00:43:48.000 And it's one of the reasons why I wanted to do this one.

00:43:50.000 He seems like a super nice guy. 1.00

00:43:51.000 But every time I've talked to people about him, they're like, fuck that guy, fuck that guy, fuck that guy. 1.00

00:43:57.000 Of course! 1.00

00:44:00.000 Of course!

00:44:02.000 I mean, he's, like, all- I mean, the fact that he's not paying those girls- I find that suspicious.

00:44:08.000 Do you find that suspicious?

00:44:09.000 You don't?

00:44:10.000 Not really.

00:44:10.000 I mean...

00:44:11.000 Why are they there then?

00:44:12.000 Because they can get... 0.99

00:44:13.000 They don't have shit to do? 0.99

00:44:13.000 Don't they have jobs? 0.99

00:44:14.000 Nah.

00:44:15.000 They're hot.

00:44:16.000 Probably he loans them money.

00:44:19.000 Nah, maybe...

00:44:19.000 Let's leave some cash around.

00:44:22.000 Could be the manager.

00:44:23.000 They're getting good gigs out of it.

00:44:25.000 You know?

00:44:25.000 I'm sure they're getting good gigs out of it.

00:44:27.000 I mean, look. 0.99

00:44:28.000 What the fuck's that guy's name? 0.99

00:44:30.000 Corey Feldman? 1.00

00:44:30.000 He's got Feldman's Angels or whatever the fuck that is. 1.00

00:44:33.000 Right? 0.97

00:44:34.000 Hugh Hefner had those, the Hef's chicks, they had a show for a while.

00:44:38.000 Well, he had to pay those girls.

00:44:41.000 We're talking about Hefner.

00:44:43.000 Yeah, they're all playmates.

00:44:44.000 See, but that was sad to me.

00:44:47.000 That was more sad to me.

00:44:48.000 What's that?

00:44:49.000 The Hefner thing? 0.98

00:44:50.000 Like, I could see chicks wanting to bang you. 1.00

00:44:52.000 Handsome guy, thick beard, built. 0.98

00:44:56.000 You know?

00:44:56.000 Military man.

00:44:57.000 Got a lot of guns.

00:44:59.000 That makes sense.

00:45:00.000 The Hefner thing was always like, oh, those poor girls. 0.99

00:45:03.000 I have daughters, and I would think about some poor girl banging Hugh Hefner and just going, oh. 1.00

00:45:08.000 Yeah, but it's not just him.

00:45:09.000 It's kind of like all these fashion guys.

00:45:13.000 Fashion guys?

00:45:13.000 Yeah, like, I mean, you know, Paul Marciano, I mean, he bangs every chick that's in gas.

00:45:17.000 Oh, okay.

00:45:19.000 Yeah, so I mean, it's kind of, they set it up, right?

00:45:21.000 Like, I mean, my whole thing is kind of like life setup, right?

00:45:24.000 So you, like, set up your life to where you don't really have to work for what you want, you know?

00:45:29.000 Right. 0.89

00:45:30.000 So, you know, Pussy, for instance, like, if you set it up correctly, like, I mean, if you Buy a big brand or a modeling agency or whatever it is, and you're providing these girls with a career. 1.00

00:45:41.000 Like, for instance, let's use Hugh Hefner. 0.97

00:45:43.000 So if you become a Playmate, you're guaranteed $25,000.

00:45:48.000 I mean, this is back in the day, right?

00:45:51.000 This is like 10 years ago when Playboy was hot or $20.

00:45:55.000 Whatever.

00:45:55.000 Whatever it was.

00:45:56.000 So now they're getting $1,000 for appearance before they were getting whatever.

00:46:01.000 But now you can't even show up for less than a grand.

00:46:05.000 So you're guaranteed more money there.

00:46:07.000 Now you have a title.

00:46:08.000 As far as modeling, you're just going to book higher-end jobs.

00:46:12.000 There's the Playboy events. 0.98

00:46:15.000 So it's kind of like you fuck this guy, you become a Playmate, and now you have a career. 0.99

00:46:20.000 Oh, I get it. 1.00

00:46:21.000 It makes sense. 0.98

00:46:22.000 I mean, it makes sense, but the factor that's missing is the fact that you were talking about before, like, you're not really into fucking girls that aren't into you, you know? 0.99

00:46:31.000 That's completely out of the question when you're a skeleton. 0.97

00:46:37.000 Yeah, but when you're a skeleton, what are you going to do?

00:46:40.000 You're balling. 0.99

00:46:41.000 You just take Molly and fucking throw down those Viagras and get the party started. 1.00

00:46:45.000 Who gives a shit? 1.00

00:46:46.000 Throw that money out. 1.00

00:46:47.000 You can't spend it when you're dead.

00:46:48.000 When I'm 70, I'm probably going to be less picky.

00:46:52.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:46:53.000 But, I mean, like I said, it's...

00:46:56.000 Yeah, I mean, it's...

00:46:57.000 You go for a hot 50-year-old. 0.96

00:46:59.000 But, you know, who knows?

00:47:00.000 Some of those girls might be into it because he's, you know, he's iconic and, you know, it's like a celebrity thing.

00:47:06.000 Celebrity is another crazy thing.

00:47:08.000 I mean, I've said it to my buddy.

00:47:10.000 I'm like, money maybe brings 5 or 10x girls, like, you know, if you use it. 0.98

00:47:15.000 And I'm not talking about using it in the sense of just paying them.

00:47:17.000 I'm saying, like, set up your life to where you have a nice life and there's cool shit going on, parties, whatever. 0.66

00:47:22.000 Right.

00:47:22.000 And then the fame, I think it's like 100x.

00:47:26.000 I think it's like 100 times.

00:47:28.000 Well, for you, it's very interesting because you're a guy that's just come into this just a few years ago, four years ago.

00:47:35.000 So you were already a man in his 30s, and all this happened, and then boom, you become famous.

00:47:41.000 So you've got a good perspective on it.

00:47:43.000 I think for people looking at it on the outside, I don't think any of us could understand what it'd be like to be Drake.

00:47:52.000 You know, I've heard that Drake has parties at his house. 0.99

00:47:55.000 I know a dude who lives near Drake and he complains about the fucking parties. 0.98

00:47:58.000 And I guess parties are so crazy that the neighbor complains that Drake bought his house. 1.00

00:48:03.000 Drake's like, fuck it, I'll just buy your house, man. 1.00

00:48:06.000 He has girls, they meet at one place, then they get in a bus. 1.00

00:48:10.000 And then the bus comes to Drake's house.

00:48:14.000 No, I mean, he's got it.

00:48:16.000 Yeah, he definitely has it on another level.

00:48:18.000 He's super ballin'.

00:48:20.000 He's super ballin'.

00:48:21.000 You know? 0.98

00:48:22.000 You know me, I'm fucking saddled down. 0.99

00:48:24.000 I'm married. 0.99

00:48:24.000 I got kids. 0.99

00:48:25.000 I got daughters too, dude.

00:48:27.000 I see all this stuff.

00:48:28.000 I have to watch from afar and go, wow, look at this action.

00:48:31.000 Look at all this craziness happening.

00:48:33.000 Look at this wild life.

00:48:34.000 Just a completely different kind of life.

00:48:36.000 But to be a guy like you, it's very interesting because not only are you famous, you're famous in like a really confusing way.

00:48:45.000 You're famous just for being a baller.

00:48:48.000 Like 100%.

00:48:48.000 That's kind of crazy, right?

00:48:49.000 You didn't write a book.

00:48:51.000 You're not in any movies.

00:48:52.000 You don't sing any songs.

00:48:53.000 You're not telling jokes.

00:48:55.000 You're just balling out of control.

00:48:56.000 You're balling so hard that you've become famous.

00:48:59.000 You're way more famous than me.

00:49:00.000 I mean, what did you say you have?

00:49:01.000 How many Instagram followers you got?

00:49:03.000 What is it?

00:49:04.000 19. 19?

00:49:05.000 I think the total is like 30-something.

00:49:06.000 I have one.

00:49:07.000 I have 1.5 on Instagram.

00:49:09.000 I have two on Twitter. 0.99

00:49:11.000 I've been on TV for 20 fucking years. 0.99

00:49:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:49:16.000 It's funny, man.

00:49:17.000 It's an interesting kind of fame.

00:49:19.000 It's a very different kind of fame.

00:49:21.000 Yeah, I mean, I just remember...

00:49:23.000 I remember when it kind of hit me because I was in Cannes and I was over there and this, you know, this is France.

00:49:34.000 I mean, they don't even speak English a lot of these places.

00:49:36.000 And I mean, I think, what was it? 0.99

00:49:39.000 I fucked 16 girls in 12 days. 0.99

00:49:42.000 And I remember because I fucked a girl without talking to her. 1.00

00:49:45.000 And that was when I knew I made it. 0.99

00:49:46.000 No talking at all?

00:49:47.000 Yeah, because she didn't speak English.

00:49:49.000 And I also wanted to just see if I could do it. 0.98

00:49:52.000 I just wanted to see if I could actually have sex with a girl without speaking to her at all. 1.00

00:49:56.000 It was kind of awkward because there were times when I wanted to say something or there was a question asked or whatever, or it was in the middle of sex. 0.99

00:50:04.000 Normally I'll talk dirty or something, but I made a point to be a fucking mute. 0.99

00:50:09.000 Right? 1.00

00:50:10.000 And I actually, like, pulled it off, and I was like, wow, like, this shit is real, you know? 1.00

00:50:15.000 Wow. 0.99

00:50:15.000 And the time that I really saw it, it was, sorry, let me, it was, I mean, I was eating cannabis before the no talking thing. 0.99

00:50:24.000 I was at some restaurant, and Ron Perlman's manager came over to me, and he's- Ron Perlman, the actor?

00:50:31.000 Yeah.

00:50:31.000 What was he in?

00:50:32.000 Sons of Anarchy?

00:50:33.000 Yeah, that, yeah, Hellboy.

00:50:34.000 Yeah, Hellboy, okay. 0.99

00:50:35.000 He's done some real shit, you know? 0.99

00:50:36.000 He's like a real dude. 1.00

00:50:37.000 Yeah.

00:50:38.000 So he come over and he's telling me about this new movie that he wants to do and there's a dad and there's a grandfather's son and dad and they're all in the military in different wars and he was talking to me about maybe playing the son.

00:50:52.000 And I was interested in it, because I had done a little bit of acting up until then, and so I was trying to check it out.

00:50:59.000 I remember it was like every 30 seconds or minutes somebody would come up and ask me for a picture.

00:51:06.000 And after the 20th person, somebody came up And was like, oh, Ron, like, you know, I love a picture with you.

00:51:14.000 And I'll never forget it.

00:51:16.000 I'll never forget it for the rest of my life.

00:51:17.000 He stood up and he goes, oh, you want a picture with me? 0.99

00:51:20.000 Like, who the fuck am I? You sure you don't want a picture with this guy? 0.99

00:51:22.000 And he was kidding. 0.98

00:51:23.000 But I was just like, I was like, wow, like, this is so fucking crazy. 0.60

00:51:27.000 Now here's a guy that's like, you know, a super successful actor who's been in like, you know, big like TV series. 0.83

00:51:33.000 And like, all these people are asking to take a picture with me. 0.99

00:51:36.000 And I was just like, wow, like, this is so fucked. 0.99

00:51:38.000 Like, But it was real. 0.99

00:51:40.000 I was just like, wow, this is a real thing.

00:51:41.000 This isn't just numbers on the internet. 0.98

00:51:43.000 This is like, I'm in a foreign country and I got all these fucking people coming up. 0.99

00:51:47.000 I was dumbfounded. 0.99

00:51:51.000 Have you ever read that Thoreau quote, most men live lives of quiet desperation?

00:51:56.000 Yeah, I actually quoted that on one of my pictures.

00:51:58.000 Oh, it's a great quote.

00:51:59.000 The mass of men or something along the lines of...

00:52:03.000 The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation man.

00:52:06.000 Yeah, something along those lines. 1.00

00:52:07.000 That quote, fucking... 1.00

00:52:09.000 I love that quote. 1.00

00:52:10.000 He's got a lot of great ones.

00:52:11.000 He's a brilliant, brilliant guy.

00:52:13.000 But that quote is one of the reasons why I think your Instagram and everything is so popular.

00:52:18.000 It's because there's a lot of people out there that are stuck in cubicles or they're stuck in jobs that they don't want to be there.

00:52:24.000 They don't want to be doing what they're doing.

00:52:25.000 They're looking at their resources.

00:52:27.000 It's so small.

00:52:28.000 They're tired all the time.

00:52:29.000 They get done from work.

00:52:30.000 They don't have any energy to do anything else.

00:52:32.000 They're saddled down with some relationship.

00:52:34.000 It's probably not optimal.

00:52:36.000 They're getting yelled at.

00:52:38.000 It's not going well.

00:52:39.000 It's not going well.

00:52:40.000 There's not a lot of joy. 0.97

00:52:41.000 And then they go on your Instagram and you're fucking jet skiing and late meet. 0.99

00:52:45.000 It's all the shooting guns and your underwear. 0.99

00:52:49.000 It looks so fun.

00:52:52.000 Yeah, and I try and be authentic.

00:52:54.000 Another one of his quotes.

00:52:55.000 Rather than love, rather than fame, rather than money, give me truth.

00:52:59.000 And I like that one.

00:52:59.000 You can have all those though.

00:53:00.000 Look, you got it all.

00:53:01.000 You got truth, you got fame, you got love, you got money.

00:53:04.000 Well, truth is the rare one.

00:53:04.000 That's the rare one in LA. Well, it is rare.

00:53:08.000 Because it's difficult to pull off.

00:53:09.000 Because most people are not really comfortable with who they are.

00:53:12.000 So instead of...

00:53:14.000 You know, instead of fixing that, they just kind of pretend, you know?

00:53:18.000 And, like, look, that's what politics is.

00:53:20.000 That's what a business is. 1.00

00:53:22.000 When you put that fucking stupid tie on, and you got those slippery shoes with the tassels on them, you know, pretending that you really talk like that, you know, and you're talking about dividends and making it, well, we can make this work, and let's touch base on Monday, and, hey, great to talk to you, and, like, shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:53:37.000 It's all... 1.00

00:53:37.000 The political correctness, the fucking, you know, pleasantries, just the bullshit. 1.00

00:53:42.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

00:53:43.000 You know, that's what I wanted to just kind of get rid of.

00:53:46.000 Well, I had a conversation with someone about, you know, people that have a lot of money and ballers and someone goes, oh, that seems like such an empty life.

00:53:54.000 And I don't know if we were talking about you specifically, but you're like a perfect example of it.

00:53:57.000 I'm like...

00:53:58.000 But here's my point.

00:54:00.000 I'm defending you.

00:54:01.000 I'm like, what's empty about it?

00:54:02.000 Looks like he's having fun.

00:54:03.000 Like, what's so great about showing up to an insurance company every day and putting in your work?

00:54:09.000 Like, yeah, look, it's very admirable to provide for your family.

00:54:12.000 It's very admirable to put in hard work when you don't want to and get it done.

00:54:18.000 There's nothing wrong with figuring out a way to not do that either. 0.93

00:54:21.000 You know, just because you got stuck in some sort of a weird situation where you have to fucking grind it out at some lumberyard every day doesn't mean that a guy like you who's just got some crazy... 0.94

00:54:40.000 I don't know. 0.93

00:54:56.000 But yet people get mad and people hate.

00:54:58.000 And when I have conversations with people, I'm like, what is shallow about all these experiences?

00:55:04.000 Like, what is so awful?

00:55:05.000 Yeah, I mean, and a lot of girls have really benefited. 0.94

00:55:07.000 You know, I've, like, built some careers.

00:55:09.000 Like, you know, Lindsay Pellis, when I started dating her, she had 100,000 followers.

00:55:12.000 She bumped up to 1.6 million in three weeks.

00:55:15.000 And now this chick's making $400,000 or $500,000 a year posting pictures on Instagram and Snapchat. 1.00

00:55:20.000 I mean, just think about that for a second.

00:55:22.000 Like, she's making...

00:55:24.000 Four times as much as a doctor or a lawyer when they get out of college.

00:55:29.000 And forget about all their debt that they have.

00:55:32.000 Let's just say they come out of college with no debt.

00:55:35.000 She's still making five times more money than them at four years younger. 1.00

00:55:39.000 Well, also the amount of fucking time they have to spend. 0.97

00:55:43.000 If you're a doctor or a lawyer, not just going through medical school, not just going through your residency, but working, constantly working. 0.97

00:55:49.000 And she's got to post a couple of pictures.

00:55:51.000 Yeah, sit on a couch, post a few pictures. 0.95

00:55:54.000 Sucker fingers. 0.92

00:55:55.000 Here's my tea. 0.99

00:55:56.000 Ass up in the air, high heels. 1.00

00:55:58.000 Woo! 0.99

00:55:59.000 It's a beautiful world.

00:56:00.000 The world of social media is a fascinating world, man.

00:56:03.000 Because speaking for me personally as a comedian, before social media, I used to have to do so much work.

00:56:09.000 I used to have to get up early in the morning and do radio shows before gigs.

00:56:13.000 I used to have to do morning TV. You'd have to do interviews with...

00:56:17.000 You know, I do an interview with some newspaper reporter. 0.99

00:56:20.000 That guy did not want to fucking talk to me and give a shit about me. 0.99

00:56:22.000 And I try to have fun with it. 0.99

00:56:24.000 And maybe he would try to have fun with it.

00:56:25.000 But for the most part, it was nonsense.

00:56:27.000 You don't have to do any of that anymore.

00:56:29.000 Social media has changed.

00:56:30.000 It's access.

00:56:31.000 It's just pure, you know, access.

00:56:34.000 And it's actually fucked it up, honestly, for a lot of these girls now because...

00:56:40.000 They don't want to go to the clubs.

00:56:42.000 They don't need to go to parties to meet celebrities anymore.

00:56:44.000 They can just DM them. 0.99

00:56:46.000 And then you have all these rich guys that are just having their pussy coordinator message all these girls. 1.00

00:56:52.000 They have a coordinator? 1.00

00:56:53.000 Who has a pussy coordinator? 1.00

00:56:55.000 It's so crazy, bro. 1.00

00:56:55.000 You have no idea. 1.00

00:56:56.000 Now these girls are getting booked out. 1.00

00:56:58.000 They're getting paid $5,000, $10,000 to just go on a vacation.

00:57:02.000 Some of them don't even have to sleep with any of the guys.

00:57:07.000 That seems like you would never get anything done.

00:57:10.000 Yeah, I mean, and from these girls' point of view, you can't really blame them. 0.99

00:57:13.000 I mean, it's like, fuck, if I was one of these girls and I could travel the world on a private jet and do all this other, you know, crazy shit for free, and it's just, I mean, I don't know. 0.98

00:57:21.000 Oh, I wouldn't blame them at all. 0.99

00:57:22.000 I don't blame them at all.

00:57:23.000 As long as, you know, as long as nothing awful is happening.

00:57:27.000 Yeah.

00:57:28.000 I used to know this guy.

00:57:29.000 We used to call him Wild Man.

00:57:31.000 A buddy of mine used to work at a strip club.

00:57:33.000 He was a DJ at a strip club.

00:57:34.000 And there was a guy there that apparently invented bell-bottoms.

00:57:38.000 This is a crazy story.

00:57:39.000 And he had lung cancer.

00:57:41.000 He smoked cigarettes like packs and packs a day.

00:57:44.000 No, emphysema. 1.00

00:57:45.000 And his doctor was telling him, listen, man, you are going to fucking die. 1.00

00:57:48.000 If you don't stop smoking cigarettes, you're going to fucking die. 1.00

00:57:51.000 And he's like, I'm just addicted to smoking. 1.00

00:57:53.000 He was like, smoke joints.

00:57:54.000 He's like, they've shown in studies that smoking marijuana is not nearly as bad for you.

00:57:59.000 And actually, it might act as an expector and it might help clean your lungs out, even though it sounds contrary to logical thinking.

00:58:05.000 Just give it a try.

00:58:06.000 So this guy starts smoking weed like he would smoke cigarettes.

00:58:09.000 He's just rolling joints, smoking.

00:58:11.000 He would smoke like 15, 20 joints a day, and when he'd pull up to the strip club, he would give these guys his roaches, because his roaches were half done, because he would smoke them like he would smoke cigarettes.

00:58:21.000 The guy changes his entire...

00:58:24.000 He gets so high, and he's so high all the time, that he's like, I don't want to do any of these things that I'm doing anymore.

00:58:29.000 He goes, this is what I want to do. 0.94

00:58:30.000 I want to play guitar, and I want to bang chicks. 1.00

00:58:33.000 And that's what he decides to do. 0.99

00:58:35.000 He realizes he's like 60 years old and he's worth some shit ton of money.

00:58:38.000 And this was like right around when Viagra was invented. 0.66

00:58:41.000 So this guy goes on a rampage.

00:58:46.000 But he's mean. 0.94

00:58:47.000 He's like really nasty. 0.96

00:58:49.000 And he did what he would call mad-dogging these chicks. 1.00

00:58:51.000 So he'd bring them back to his house. 1.00

00:58:53.000 And he would say nasty shit to him and hit him and piss on him and all kinds of crazy shit apparently. 1.00

00:58:58.000 I don't know the full details of it. 1.00

00:58:59.000 But his house was for sale.

00:59:01.000 He had this ball, baller house in the Hollywood Hills. 0.99

00:59:05.000 And for a while I was thinking, because I go to the comedy store all the time, I'm like, man, maybe I should buy this fucking house. 0.98

00:59:09.000 It's close to the comedy store. 0.98

00:59:11.000 But I'm like, God, it's like this $5 million house that's right on the street.

00:59:15.000 It's right there.

00:59:16.000 The sidewalk, and then here's his door.

00:59:19.000 You just touch his door.

00:59:20.000 I'm like... 0.99

00:59:20.000 Someone's gonna fucking break into this guy's house. 0.99

00:59:22.000 And so the realtor is like, no, listen, there's a state-of-the-art security system in this place. 0.99

00:59:27.000 It's got all these cameras.

00:59:28.000 I go, yeah, you know what that camera's gonna get? 1.00

00:59:30.000 It's gonna get a picture of a dude with a ski mask robbing your fucking house. 1.00

00:59:34.000 Like, do you understand that? 1.00

00:59:35.000 Like, what is a camera gonna do? 1.00

00:59:37.000 Two weeks after I said that, the dude got shot in the neck in the fucking house. 1.00

00:59:42.000 Wow. 1.00

00:59:43.000 He used to bring the hookers to his house. 1.00

00:59:45.000 He used to bring them to his house, and he brought one to his house, and she brought her boyfriend, and they shot him in the neck. 0.99

00:59:50.000 Wow.

00:59:51.000 Yeah, there's a lot of setup stuff like that.

00:59:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:59:54.000 But so, you see, that's a bad guy. 1.00

00:59:56.000 That was a guy doing bad shit. 0.99

00:59:58.000 I don't see anything wrong with anything you're doing. 0.99

01:00:00.000 I see happiness.

01:00:02.000 I look at your Instagram, I see a bunch of people laughing.

01:00:04.000 I like the music you're playing.

01:00:06.000 You're playing good songs that I would listen to. 1.00

01:00:09.000 It looks like a fucking party. 0.99

01:00:12.000 Nothing wrong here, people. 1.00

01:00:13.000 Everybody needs to relax.

01:00:15.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm just, you know, doing some wish fulfillment.

01:00:19.000 Now, do you have a plan charted out for this existence, or are you just winging it?

01:00:29.000 Well, I got this app coming out where it's going to be kind of similar to what WorldStar does, where users can upload their badass videos, right?

01:00:39.000 So anything kind of like...

01:00:42.000 Similar to the stuff that I post or fights or whatever crazy cool videos that they want, they can post on there.

01:00:49.000 And I'll just share the best ones on my Facebook or Instagram or whatever.

01:00:53.000 So if they post cool shit on there, they're guaranteed to get a ton of shine. 0.77

01:00:58.000 And that's why they post on WorldStar. 0.99

01:01:00.000 It's because they want people to see it.

01:01:04.000 I'm, you know, I'm gonna do that.

01:01:06.000 I got this fantasy betting app that I got.

01:01:09.000 It's, you know, it's like similar to the DraftKings of the fantasy sports stuff.

01:01:16.000 I don't know, just, you know, I've been focusing more on, you know, doing some stuff like that. 0.85

01:01:20.000 I've kind of just done everything I wanted to do, you know, in this, you know, as far as like the partying and buying shit, you know? 0.92

01:01:27.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:01:28.000 Well, that's why I was asking.

01:01:29.000 I'm like, well, how much more can you do?

01:01:32.000 Yeah, I mean, I've checked most of the boxes, man.

01:01:35.000 So now I kind of just want to, you know, give people a platform.

01:01:39.000 How much money have you made playing poker?

01:01:42.000 I don't know.

01:01:43.000 I mean...

01:01:44.000 If you had a guess?

01:01:45.000 In the neighborhood?

01:01:48.000 I mean, I know, I mean, you know, I just know the big figures.

01:01:53.000 I mean, you know, I beat one guy for $54 million.

01:01:55.000 I mean, I won $10.5 million in another night.

01:01:58.000 I beat another guy for $10 million.

01:02:00.000 And then, you know, I don't know what the total is on the, you know, other cash games.

01:02:04.000 But, I mean, I've, I don't know.

01:02:06.000 I mean, I've made a lot.

01:02:07.000 But do you have enough stashed away?

01:02:09.000 That was just, you know, a six-month or a year period, you know?

01:02:12.000 So it's like, you know, I don't know.

01:02:14.000 Did you take a chunk and put it away and say, okay, this is my break glass in case of apocalypse fund?

01:02:20.000 I mean, I've bought some gold and I own my stuff.

01:02:25.000 I own my plane and my house and my cars and cash in the bank.

01:02:31.000 I'm doing all right.

01:02:33.000 Yeah, but I mean...

01:02:36.000 First of all, that's crazy, right?

01:02:38.000 It's crazy that you went from being a Navy SEAL to being a college student who's learning how to play cards. 0.99

01:02:42.000 Well, you know, preparing or trying to attempt to be a Navy SEAL, going to college and learning how to play cards, to a guy who's got his own fucking jet. 0.98

01:02:51.000 I mean, and all from gambling. 0.98

01:02:53.000 I mean, that's bizarre in and of itself.

01:02:56.000 But do you ever think, like, there's a time where I'm not going to want to do this anymore?

01:03:02.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of at the point, like I said, where I've done most of the stuff that I wanted to do.

01:03:08.000 So now I'm kind of winging it.

01:03:11.000 I've been doing more active stuff.

01:03:13.000 I've been doing some wake surfing, and we just went out to Lake Powell, and winter's coming up, doing some snowboarding trips, snowmobiling, and shit like that.

01:03:22.000 So it's still just more fun?

01:03:23.000 Yeah, just having fun, but doing more active stuff, less partying.

01:03:27.000 Still have the girls around.

01:03:30.000 I did a cartoon.

01:03:33.000 I'm about to release that.

01:03:35.000 Wait a minute.

01:03:35.000 Didn't you have two heart attacks in one night or something?

01:03:38.000 That's actually one of the cartoon episodes. 1.00

01:03:41.000 What the fuck happened? 0.99

01:03:42.000 How did you have two heart attacks? 1.00

01:03:43.000 You wanna watch the cartoon?

01:03:44.000 Do you have the cartoon?

01:03:46.000 Can we watch it?

01:03:46.000 Yeah, throw the cartoon up.

01:03:47.000 How do I get to it?

01:03:48.000 Tell Jamie, give Jamie the address.

01:03:50.000 Can I airdrop it?

01:03:50.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

01:03:51.000 You can drop it to Jamie.

01:03:52.000 Or do you have it on your phone?

01:03:53.000 Is that what it is?

01:03:54.000 It's not online anywhere?

01:03:55.000 I got it on my phone.

01:03:56.000 Oh.

01:03:56.000 Can you airdrop it to you, Jamie?

01:03:58.000 Does that work?

01:03:59.000 I can't airdrop it, but I can airplay it if you got an Apple TV. Yeah, we have an Apple TV, but we can't play it online?

01:04:05.000 It'd be us watching it in here, and we couldn't hear it or anything. 1.00

01:04:08.000 Shit. 0.99

01:04:09.000 I can't put it on that? 1.00

01:04:10.000 You can, but I don't have that.

01:04:12.000 In this current system here, it's not built into this display.

01:04:16.000 Let me see.

01:04:17.000 Can we fix that?

01:04:18.000 Can we make that happen, or is that...

01:04:19.000 We can in the future, yeah.

01:04:20.000 Okay.

01:04:21.000 But we need a different setup or something?

01:04:23.000 I need some extra inputs, yeah.

01:04:24.000 Yeah, I'll have to do that another time.

01:04:26.000 Okay, we'll do it another time.

01:04:28.000 I'm going to call my guy and see if I can get you a link.

01:04:31.000 Give me one second.

01:04:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04:32.000 Go ahead.

01:04:32.000 Call your guy.

01:04:33.000 Alright.

01:04:34.000 Dan Bilzerian will be right back, ladies and gentlemen. 0.99

01:04:37.000 He's gonna call his guy, not to be confused with his pussy coordinator. 1.00

01:04:40.000 He doesn't have one of those. 0.99

01:04:42.000 I'm looking. 0.99

01:04:43.000 You're looking for a pussy coordinator? 1.00

01:04:44.000 I know some dudes. 1.00

01:04:47.000 What a crazy life.

01:04:49.000 It's bizarre, right?

01:04:51.000 I just...

01:04:53.000 You know, people will tell you, ah, that's gonna get tired.

01:04:58.000 But guess what?

01:04:59.000 So is being married.

01:05:01.000 To a lot of people.

01:05:03.000 Not to me, Jamie.

01:05:05.000 So is working in a regular job.

01:05:07.000 That's got to be tired, too.

01:05:09.000 I love the fact that this is a real thing. 0.97

01:05:12.000 That all of a sudden, because of social media, some guy can gather up 50 fucking million followers. 0.76

01:05:18.000 I don't know how to word this right, but you know how people start calling the Michael Jordan... 0.93

01:05:23.000 You'd be the Michael Jordan of this because you're the greatest of whatever.

01:05:26.000 He's starting to become...

01:05:27.000 People are calling so-and-so the Dan Bilzerian of...

01:05:31.000 X. Oh, yeah.

01:05:32.000 Well, there's that Italian guy.

01:05:36.000 Giovanno Vacci.

01:05:37.000 That old guy is my age.

01:05:39.000 Isn't that sad? 0.99

01:05:40.000 Goddamn, I'm old, bro. 0.99

01:05:42.000 Sad. 0.98

01:05:44.000 Every now and then I wake up and I got some new pain and I just think, is this pain like forever?

01:05:50.000 Is this gonna heal?

01:05:51.000 I got this hip thing that's going on lately. 0.81

01:05:55.000 It's not bad like I did kickboxing today and no problem and no pain while I'm working out But every now and then it like irritates me and instead of it like when I was young if I had something that irritated me I would say some fucking nothing I'll get over that But that's also why I developed a bunch of chronic injuries from jiu-jitsu because I would go and train even though I had something fucked up.

01:06:16.000 It's also because jiu-jitsu is really fun, but I don't think like that anymore, man.

01:06:20.000 Now I think, is this, like, broken?

01:06:23.000 Like, is this...

01:06:24.000 Am I gonna need a hip replacement? 0.99

01:06:26.000 Like, I know guys that are my age that have fucking... 0.97

01:06:28.000 I know guys younger than me that have had hip replacements. 1.00

01:06:32.000 I start thinking, like, is this shit broken forever? 0.99

01:06:35.000 You got your guy? 1.00

01:06:36.000 I talked to him.

01:06:38.000 He's telling me I can't show it.

01:06:40.000 You can't show it? 1.00

01:06:41.000 Who the fuck is that guy? 0.99

01:06:42.000 You got a guy that tells you what to do? 1.00

01:06:44.000 I'm telling you, fire your team, dude.

01:06:47.000 I'm available.

01:06:47.000 I work for free.

01:06:49.000 I pretty much fire them all. 0.98

01:06:50.000 Fire them all, dude. 1.00

01:06:52.000 Fire them all. 1.00

01:06:53.000 I have a team, too. 0.96

01:06:53.000 I don't listen to them either. 0.96

01:06:57.000 Nobody should listen to teams.

01:06:58.000 Yeah, I agree. 0.98

01:07:00.000 I mean, I obviously don't know shit about poker. 0.92

01:07:02.000 I don't know nothing about your business. 0.97

01:07:03.000 I'm not a gambler, but I can advise you.

01:07:05.000 Fire the whole thing. 0.99

01:07:06.000 Fire everybody. 0.96

01:07:07.000 Keep doing exactly what you're doing.

01:07:09.000 Listen to me, dude.

01:07:10.000 I'm telling you, I'm right.

01:07:11.000 I have no experience in your business.

01:07:13.000 I'm totally unqualified, but I will give you some sound advice.

01:07:19.000 Yeah, you know that Italian guy that people keep comparing to you?

01:07:22.000 The guy who dances around a lot?

01:07:24.000 Oh, I've seen him, yeah.

01:07:25.000 Didn't he have some health issue?

01:07:26.000 What's going on with him?

01:07:27.000 Really?

01:07:27.000 Did he?

01:07:28.000 I don't know.

01:07:28.000 I thought so, but I don't know.

01:07:30.000 That was the last I'd heard.

01:07:31.000 Oh, I didn't hear that.

01:07:32.000 What's his name?

01:07:34.000 Giovon Vacci or something like that?

01:07:36.000 Well, I became aware of him because there's a hilarious video of him and his girlfriend dancing.

01:07:40.000 Oh, yeah, it's great.

01:07:41.000 He's a really good dancer, right? 0.99

01:07:42.000 He's a fucking great dancer. 1.00

01:07:43.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00

01:07:44.000 But this thing, here's the thing, man. 1.00

01:07:46.000 Everybody's like, I saw this thing, like, something about Sugar Daddy, and, like, she's young and hot, and he's got gray hair. 1.00

01:07:51.000 That motherfucker's my age. 0.99

01:07:52.000 Like, that's how old I am, dude. 1.00

01:07:54.000 49. The end is near.

01:07:56.000 The end is near, Jamie!

01:07:59.000 There he is. 0.99

01:08:00.000 Yeah, no, he looks like a fucking stud, right? 0.99

01:08:02.000 Yeah, well, it's just the hair. 0.99

01:08:03.000 I mean, if he had black hair, he would look...

01:08:07.000 He'd look younger, right?

01:08:08.000 Oh, for sure.

01:08:08.000 I mean, he just has...

01:08:10.000 I have a buddy of mine who's 30. His hair is almost all white.

01:08:13.000 I mean, it's just some dudes have premature hair, and he's got a banging girlfriend, but he's got one.

01:08:18.000 See?

01:08:18.000 You can't call him the Dan Bilzerian of Italy.

01:08:21.000 I mean, he's obviously a baller.

01:08:22.000 He's living good, you know?

01:08:23.000 He's balling.

01:08:25.000 He's got one girl.

01:08:26.000 Yeah.

01:08:26.000 I mean, I'm sure he's happy.

01:08:28.000 He looks very happy.

01:08:28.000 She looks very happy.

01:08:30.000 Everybody looks happy.

01:08:30.000 I feel like he's doing a lot of stuff for Instagram.

01:08:33.000 He's posted a lot.

01:08:34.000 He's trying to get on that Dan Bilzerian level.

01:08:36.000 I think he might be.

01:08:37.000 What's he at?

01:08:38.000 What level's he at?

01:08:39.000 Five million?

01:08:41.000 That's a giant jump.

01:08:43.000 He's done twice as many posts as I've done in the last five years, and he's done it in, I think, like six months.

01:08:49.000 Yeah, very quickly.

01:08:50.000 So he's posting a lot. 1.00

01:08:52.000 Well, not only that, his shit became really popular really recently. 0.99

01:08:57.000 I want to say when I became aware of him, he only had two million followers. 0.99

01:09:01.000 But if you look at his stuff, though, it kind of looks like a lot of photo shoots, right?

01:09:06.000 Exactly.

01:09:07.000 It kind of looks like a lot of stage.

01:09:08.000 Yeah!

01:09:09.000 Oh, look, I found a goat!

01:09:11.000 Yeah.

01:09:12.000 Look, it's me with the goat!

01:09:14.000 Yeah.

01:09:14.000 Yeah, he's got a lot of money.

01:09:16.000 Look at that.

01:09:16.000 Come on, son.

01:09:17.000 Like, that doesn't just accidentally happen, right?

01:09:19.000 Yeah, you don't just accidentally get photographed on a horse with no shirt on.

01:09:22.000 With white pants.

01:09:23.000 And with prison tattoos.

01:09:24.000 What's with all the prison tattoos?

01:09:25.000 He's got, like, a bunch of writing on his chest.

01:09:27.000 Yeah.

01:09:28.000 What does that all say?

01:09:28.000 Do we know what his tattoos say?

01:09:30.000 There must be, like, a website dedicated to his chest tattoos.

01:09:32.000 Look, he's there with Pitbull!

01:09:34.000 Look!

01:09:34.000 There he is!

01:09:36.000 Come on, he's so happy.

01:09:38.000 No, I mean, he looks like a cool cat.

01:09:40.000 He does.

01:09:41.000 I don't like what he's doing in his beard, though.

01:09:42.000 He's got that little thing that he puts at the bottom of his beard.

01:09:45.000 He twists it up and puts a little rubber band around it. 1.00

01:09:47.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99

01:09:48.000 I don't know what the fuck that is. 1.00

01:09:49.000 I will pull that thing off. 0.99

01:09:51.000 I see you, sir.

01:09:52.000 I'm going to grab that thing. 1.00

01:09:53.000 That's a goddamn handle. 0.99

01:09:54.000 I don't understand that. 1.00

01:09:56.000 He's a fun cat, though.

01:09:59.000 His videos are really fun. 1.00

01:10:00.000 No, the fucking guy can dance. 1.00

01:10:02.000 Hats off to him. 1.00

01:10:04.000 Oh, man.

01:10:05.000 See if you can find that one video of him with the girl, the first one they did on the boat that got him really famous.

01:10:11.000 I want to say that was only...

01:10:13.000 Four or five months ago, and I really...

01:10:15.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:10:17.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:10:17.000 In the last, like, five months, he's really, like, he's gone hard.

01:10:21.000 But there's some stuff.

01:10:23.000 I mean, it's like, he set up a dinner table.

01:10:25.000 I saw a picture.

01:10:26.000 He set up a dinner table underwater where he could, like, pretend like he was eating underwater, and then he did, like, a whole skit where he was, like, underwater doing all this stuff. 1.00

01:10:34.000 I'm like, fuck, man. 0.99

01:10:35.000 That must have taken you, like, a fucking full day. 1.00

01:10:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:10:38.000 And he's wearing a suit, and I'm just... 0.99

01:10:40.000 Like, fuck, man. 1.00

01:10:42.000 Well, he's going a different approach. 1.00

01:10:43.000 Yeah.

01:10:44.000 Instead of the baller approach, like, shooting guns in his underwear, what he's doing is he's got, like, this one beautiful girlfriend.

01:10:51.000 They just have a good time all over the world.

01:10:53.000 It seems, I mean, it's a different approach, but here's the point.

01:10:56.000 No, I like that.

01:10:57.000 I dig that.

01:10:58.000 I'm just saying like that.

01:10:58.000 There he is.

01:10:59.000 That's it.

01:10:59.000 No, that's awesome.

01:11:00.000 I mean, this motherfucker can dance. 1.00

01:11:02.000 No, he can. 1.00

01:11:03.000 He can. 1.00

01:11:04.000 Fucking customer hug. 1.00

01:11:05.000 And he looks like he's having a good time. 1.00

01:11:06.000 No, 100%.

01:11:07.000 But see, that's cool to me.

01:11:11.000 Yeah.

01:11:11.000 Like, the other stuff that's like, it seems like a lot of efforts put into it is not quite, but that's dope.

01:11:16.000 I mean, it is...

01:11:17.000 Chick seems cool, but I can dance. 0.96

01:11:19.000 Looks like he's having fun.

01:11:20.000 Listen, if you got that kind of money, why wouldn't you be dancing?

01:11:23.000 You should be dancing.

01:11:24.000 That's awesome. 1.00

01:11:25.000 You should be partying your fucking ass. 1.00

01:11:27.000 And he is. 1.00

01:11:27.000 I don't understand his tattoos. 1.00

01:11:29.000 I'm confused about the ankle one.

01:11:30.000 What's going on down there?

01:11:32.000 Maybe it's like his ex-wife's name. 1.00

01:11:33.000 Like, fuck you, bitch. 1.00

01:11:34.000 I'm fucking covered. 1.00

01:11:35.000 He's in good shape, though. 0.99

01:11:36.000 Yeah, he is. 1.00

01:11:37.000 Fuck, you know? 1.00

01:11:38.000 Yeah, he's in very good shape for a 49-year-old. 1.00

01:11:40.000 That's my age, goddammit! 1.00

01:11:42.000 I'm fucking 49, man. 1.00

01:11:44.000 It's just the end is near, Dan. 0.99

01:11:46.000 I don't know.

01:11:46.000 You're in the right time frame, I'll tell you what.

01:11:48.000 It is.

01:11:48.000 They got the stem cells.

01:11:49.000 They got the HGH. I've already had a gang of it.

01:11:51.000 Oh, have you done the stem cells?

01:11:52.000 Oh, yeah, man. 1.00

01:11:53.000 Stem cells fix my fucking shoulder. 0.99

01:11:56.000 People are tired of hearing about it on this podcast. 1.00

01:11:58.000 Was that Regenikine or was that stem cells?

01:12:00.000 I had Regenikine done on my shoulder, too.

01:12:01.000 It didn't help as much.

01:12:03.000 I had some pretty significant tearing.

01:12:06.000 Slap tear. 0.77

01:12:07.000 I had a tear of the labrum, a tear of the bicep tendon, and a tear of the rotator cuff.

01:12:13.000 Oh, wow.

01:12:13.000 I did the rotator cuff.

01:12:15.000 Basically, I couldn't even lift my arm like three inches.

01:12:18.000 I did the Regenicon, and then three weeks later, I was boxing.

01:12:21.000 Well, the Regenicon did wonders for my back.

01:12:24.000 It just wasn't enough for my shoulder. 1.00

01:12:26.000 But again, I'm an idiot. 0.99

01:12:27.000 I don't give it enough time off. 0.99

01:12:29.000 I mean, I literally, from like this, three weeks later, I was boxing.

01:12:36.000 Yeah, that is amazing.

01:12:37.000 That's pretty aggressive, right?

01:12:38.000 And by the way, all the doctors told me I needed surgery.

01:12:41.000 Same thing to me.

01:12:42.000 I've had that said to me twice.

01:12:44.000 I need surgery on my neck, and I've heard I need surgery on my shoulder.

01:12:48.000 I avoided both of them, and I do everything now.

01:12:50.000 But one of the things about shoulder injuries that I found from Steve Maxwell, he's a pretty famous strength and conditioning coach that's been on this podcast a bunch of times, is hanging.

01:12:59.000 Hanging from chin-up bars, it's so important to do.

01:13:04.000 It's so good for your shoulders to straighten out your shoulders.

01:13:07.000 I thought you were going to say bad. 0.99

01:13:08.000 I was like, fuck, because I've done a lot of that. 1.00

01:13:10.000 No, no, no. 1.00

01:13:10.000 It's really good for you. 1.00

01:13:11.000 There's a whole video about it where this doctor, who was a shoulder surgery doctor, stopped doing shoulder surgery on most of his patients and started them on this hanging therapy.

01:13:22.000 Because when you hang...

01:13:24.000 Most human beings essentially were primates, and most primates swing from trees.

01:13:29.000 I mean, that is what they do.

01:13:31.000 They grab ahold of things, and they swing, and it stretches out your arm, and you develop impingements from gravity, from a lack of use, or from too much use or overuse.

01:13:41.000 And this guy has you hang from a chin-up bar, just holding on and hanging, and it stretches out your shoulder, and it alleviates pain in a giant percentage of people that have shoulder injuries. 0.58

01:13:54.000 And I urge anybody who's listening to this that has any sort of shoulder weirdness or some shit that fucks with them to just try this. 0.92

01:14:00.000 I know it sounds crazy. 0.99

01:14:02.000 Like, how the fuck is hanging by your shoulders going to help you? 0.99

01:14:04.000 And this is one doctor. 0.98

01:14:06.000 This is not the doctor that invented the procedure, but he basically explains it really well.

01:14:11.000 There's a bunch of them.

01:14:12.000 What did you Google so people can...

01:14:14.000 Shoulder pain hanging from bar and there's a lot of things that start popping up as you do that.

01:14:18.000 Yeah, there's a gang of it, but it's super effective.

01:14:21.000 It's super effective for a lot of people.

01:14:23.000 I mean, if you have like significant tearing where you're going to need surgery, you have a failure of your joint or something like that, you know, that's one thing.

01:14:30.000 But for a lot of people, this offers them a great deal of relief and it really helps me.

01:14:35.000 I do it every day.

01:14:36.000 It's one of the first things I do in the morning.

01:14:38.000 I hang and then I do scapular raises for archery.

01:14:42.000 You know, it's like I hang, I'll do like two Two minutes of hanging, and then once I've done two minutes, then I contract my scapula, and I hold that in place for as long as I can.

01:14:51.000 So it's like my hands are given out, my forearms are given out, and then I force my scapula to carry all the weight.

01:14:57.000 Interesting.

01:14:58.000 And you make it a daily routine.

01:15:00.000 This is what I do.

01:15:01.000 I brush my teeth.

01:15:01.000 I do that.

01:15:02.000 I just have to do it.

01:15:03.000 So I force myself.

01:15:04.000 I have zero pain.

01:15:05.000 Zero pain in my shoulders.

01:15:06.000 But the stem cells was a big factor.

01:15:08.000 So now are you getting the infusion or are you getting the, like, how are you getting it?

01:15:13.000 Stem cells?

01:15:14.000 Yeah.

01:15:15.000 Well, what they do is they take it from a woman, a young woman who's had a cesarean section.

01:15:21.000 When they give birth through cesarean section, they take the placenta and then they use that for stem cells.

01:15:26.000 And that apparently is the most powerful version of stem cell therapy.

01:15:30.000 There's a bunch of different kinds they use in this country that a lot of people like.

01:15:34.000 A lot of people like it when they take your fat out.

01:15:35.000 They take your fat out and they convert that to stem cells.

01:15:37.000 My buddy did that.

01:15:39.000 Daniel Cormier, they went into his hip.

01:15:41.000 They got his marrow out of his hip.

01:15:43.000 Yeah, that's what I did.

01:15:44.000 I got the 19-year-old bone marrow.

01:15:46.000 From someone else?

01:15:47.000 Yeah.

01:15:47.000 Oh, okay.

01:15:48.000 Daniel Cormier, they went into his own hip and pulled it out.

01:15:52.000 But I've heard great results from a lot of different versions of stem cells.

01:15:56.000 But I know for me personally, when they shot the stuff from placenta into my shoulder, it was like within a couple of weeks, it was better than it had been in a year.

01:16:05.000 Wow.

01:16:05.000 And then a few months after that, it was like no pain.

01:16:09.000 It's amazing how quick it's healed.

01:16:11.000 Interesting.

01:16:12.000 I also did a lot of shoulder exercises with rubber bands and stuff.

01:16:16.000 A lot of different things that I concentrate on, I do all the time now to strengthen up the area and keep it tight.

01:16:22.000 But you haven't done the IV stuff?

01:16:24.000 No, you did that, huh?

01:16:25.000 Yeah, I've done that twice now.

01:16:27.000 Boss Rooten did that.

01:16:27.000 He told me that it was like, he goes, it was like the power was coming out of my hands!

01:16:31.000 Ah!

01:16:32.000 Bro, it's pretty crazy.

01:16:34.000 I mean, I basically, it was weird though.

01:16:37.000 The first time I did it, it seemed like I had a lot more profound effect than the second.

01:16:41.000 But the first time, so I went down to Mexico because you can't do it in the U.S. So I went down there, got like 90 million of the 19-year-old bone marrow that had been oxygen deprived, whatever, and they injected it in you.

01:16:57.000 The next day I went to get some dental work done.

01:16:59.000 I think I had a root canal or whatever it was.

01:17:01.000 But they injected 25 vials of lidocaine or novocaine or whatever it is.

01:17:07.000 And they said that my body was just cycling it through instantaneously.

01:17:10.000 So I had all this dental work done.

01:17:12.000 The next day I was completely healed from all the dental work, which is pretty crazy.

01:17:15.000 What?

01:17:15.000 Yeah.

01:17:16.000 And they said they've never given anybody that much lidocaine ever.

01:17:20.000 And they're like, the guy asked me if I do coke.

01:17:23.000 And I'm like, no, I haven't done that since I was 25. He's like, yeah.

01:17:27.000 He's like, normally nobody needs this much unless they have some kind of a thing.

01:17:31.000 And I'm like, actually normally really drug sensitive.

01:17:34.000 I also found that, because I do HRT, and I found that when I did the shots, it was a lot stronger.

01:17:41.000 So people listen, it's hormone replacement therapy.

01:17:43.000 Yeah.

01:17:44.000 And so basically...

01:17:47.000 I found that it just cycled all these drugs faster through my system.

01:17:50.000 So I'd get a stronger effect, but then it'd be out.

01:17:54.000 And then I went to the gym.

01:17:55.000 They said, you're not supposed to work out for three days or whatever.

01:17:57.000 I went to the gym.

01:17:58.000 I think it was like four or five days later.

01:18:01.000 And I was like 20, I think 20% stronger.

01:18:05.000 And I mean, I've been training for 20 something years.

01:18:08.000 I've done everything. 0.97

01:18:09.000 So to get like 20% strength increase is just fucking crazy. 0.70

01:18:13.000 Dude, I'm going to Mexico. 0.98

01:18:14.000 It was so nuts.

01:18:15.000 What part of Mexico?

01:18:16.000 Where do you go exactly?

01:18:18.000 Tijuana.

01:18:19.000 Oh man, Tijuana.

01:18:21.000 It's so dangerous.

01:18:21.000 It was like Sicario.

01:18:23.000 I had the armored cars.

01:18:25.000 I made them give me a machine gun.

01:18:28.000 Really?

01:18:28.000 I had a machine gun.

01:18:30.000 You wanted your own machine gun while you were down there? 0.99

01:18:32.000 Just in case shit goes down, you don't want these guys to get shot? 1.00

01:18:34.000 I play the fucking Wild West, man. 1.00

01:18:36.000 At least if I'm going out, I want to have a gun. 0.99

01:18:39.000 Tijuana seems to me like, yeah, it's the Wild West, but they don't want to fuck it up because the money's made all through tourism.

01:18:46.000 Like if somebody gets gunned down or kidnapped, nobody wants to go to Tijuana.

01:18:49.000 So you rarely hear about anything going down in Tijuana, except those drug murders.

01:18:54.000 Yeah.

01:18:55.000 But that was just, the last ones were those beheadings, which were, that was like a decade ago. 0.99

01:18:59.000 Pretty gnarly shit. 0.98

01:19:00.000 I mean, I just know that they didn't want me to fly my plane down there. 0.99

01:19:03.000 I did anyways, but they're like, yeah, you should probably charter and, you know.

01:19:07.000 You should probably drive.

01:19:08.000 Why don't you drive?

01:19:08.000 It's not that long.

01:19:10.000 I don't know.

01:19:11.000 Last time I went...

01:19:12.000 I mean, I hadn't been down there since the military, but it just seemed like the border crossing going back just took forever.

01:19:18.000 It's a nightmare.

01:19:19.000 And now they want you to have a...

01:19:20.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:19:21.000 Back in the day, it was easy.

01:19:22.000 We used to walk across.

01:19:23.000 Driver's license.

01:19:24.000 Yeah.

01:19:24.000 Yeah, that's all you need.

01:19:26.000 When did they make it a passport thing?

01:19:27.000 It was Canada, too, right?

01:19:28.000 Yeah, well, Canada's been like that, but Mexico, I think, used to not be like...

01:19:34.000 Or maybe Canada wasn't either.

01:19:36.000 No, Canada used to be licensed when I used to go to Montreal.

01:19:39.000 No, you're right, you're right.

01:19:41.000 You're right, because I used to go fishing trips with them.

01:19:42.000 Yeah, so I don't know.

01:19:44.000 I don't know how long ago it was, but they definitely changed a lot since, you know...

01:19:49.000 Dude, I want to get these injections.

01:19:50.000 You should.

01:19:51.000 Just for no reason.

01:19:52.000 I just want to get them.

01:19:52.000 I did it for no reason.

01:19:54.000 I was just like, fuck it. 1.00

01:19:57.000 How come you only did it once? 1.00

01:19:59.000 No, I did it twice.

01:19:59.000 Oh, you did it twice?

01:20:00.000 Yeah, but the second time I just fell, I just left, I actually went straight from Burning Man down there, and I only got 70, and I just, I don't know, I did a fast before.

01:20:14.000 I kind of got sick and then I took some antibiotics.

01:20:19.000 They say you're not supposed to take antibiotics.

01:20:21.000 I don't know. 0.89

01:20:22.000 Maybe I fucked it up.

01:20:23.000 I'm not really sure.

01:20:24.000 But I just remember the first time was a distinctly super strong effect.

01:20:29.000 Yeah, well, I believe Bas Rutten went to South America.

01:20:32.000 I think.

01:20:33.000 Did you remember where he said he went, Jamie?

01:20:35.000 Peru?

01:20:35.000 Did he say Peru?

01:20:36.000 Yeah, my buddy does it in Cancun.

01:20:38.000 I know they were doing it in Germany.

01:20:40.000 Yeah, I think Düsseldorf.

01:20:42.000 You know, it's just basically anywhere that's not in the U.S., I think.

01:20:45.000 Yeah. 0.93

01:20:46.000 Well, we got fucked during the Bush administration when they did this sweeping ban on stem cells because of the religious right. 0.99

01:20:54.000 Exactly. 0.99

01:20:54.000 They don't want you to play God and, you know. 0.99

01:20:56.000 Well, it wasn't just that.

01:20:57.000 It's like they were concerned.

01:20:58.000 Stem cells were connected to fetal tissue, and there was this whole idea that people were going to get abortions on purpose just to get the fetal tissue.

01:21:06.000 Or to sell the stem cells.

01:21:07.000 Yeah, and they probably would.

01:21:08.000 I mean, someone probably would.

01:21:10.000 For sure.

01:21:10.000 It probably wouldn't be a lot of people, but it'd be enough that it would be an issue with some folks.

01:21:14.000 So because of that, all these European countries, especially Germany, got way ahead of the curve when it comes to stem cell research and applications in the medical industry.

01:21:24.000 And, you know, what we're seeing now, you know, you obviously know Regenicine was invented in Germany.

01:21:29.000 That's how I found out about it. 0.98

01:21:30.000 Yeah, Mickey Rourke was doing it on his knee like, fuck, I think it was like 20 years ago or something crazy. 0.97

01:21:36.000 Do you know Mickey Rourke? 0.98

01:21:38.000 I've met him twice.

01:21:39.000 Tell him to settle down.

01:21:41.000 Just calm down, dude.

01:21:42.000 He does seem like a good guy, right?

01:21:45.000 Just calm down.

01:21:46.000 Yeah, he's...

01:21:47.000 Whatever you're doing, don't do that anymore.

01:21:50.000 Just relax. 1.00

01:21:52.000 What a fucking actor, though. 1.00

01:21:53.000 The Wrestler was one of my favorite movies. 1.00

01:21:55.000 I thought that was so good.

01:21:55.000 How about Pope of Greenwich Village, man?

01:21:57.000 I mean, go back to some of his old shit. 1.00

01:21:58.000 Angel Heart? 1.00

01:21:59.000 It's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:22:00.000 That's good. 1.00

01:22:01.000 The Wrestler just seems so authentic.

01:22:03.000 I don't know.

01:22:04.000 Yeah, I just like that movie a lot. 0.86

01:22:06.000 Well, it was perfect for him at the time, too, because he was an older guy, and he was kind of fucked up on his own. 0.89

01:22:12.000 He looked the part. 0.95

01:22:13.000 Yeah.

01:22:14.000 He was perfect for it. 0.99

01:22:16.000 He's a fucking amazing actor, and people forget that because he's kind of a freak now. 0.99

01:22:20.000 But if you go back to his earlier stuff and you see how good he was in Diner, you know what I mean? 0.99

01:22:27.000 He was amazing.

01:22:28.000 He was amazing.

01:22:30.000 But, yeah, whatever he's doing, don't do that anymore.

01:22:34.000 Yeah.

01:22:36.000 But I know Peyton Manning went down there to Germany.

01:22:40.000 So now let me ask you, is that stuff banned in professional sports?

01:22:45.000 Regenikine?

01:22:45.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:22:47.000 Not the healing stuff.

01:22:48.000 I'm talking about just, like, stem cell infusions.

01:22:51.000 No.

01:22:51.000 No, not yet.

01:22:52.000 Oh, wow.

01:22:52.000 But could be soon.

01:22:54.000 I mean, it really depends.

01:22:55.000 I don't know how.

01:22:56.000 I mean, I don't know if you could test for that.

01:22:58.000 I mean, it's like...

01:22:58.000 Because what I've been told is you cannot tell the difference between a regular...

01:23:02.000 Like, a stem cell from you or a stem cell from me or whatever if it's been scrubbed and thinned your system.

01:23:06.000 I mean, it's like they said to me a stem cell is a stem cell, but...

01:23:09.000 Well, I pay very close attention to the latest cutting-edge research for doping because of the UFC and because I'm friends with Jeff Nowitzki, who's the guy who busted Lance Armstrong, who's, of course, the guy who works for the UFC now.

01:23:22.000 And he and I talk all the time.

01:23:24.000 And it's really fucking interesting how these people who are trying to get ahead are way ahead of the people that are trying to detect it. 0.72

01:23:34.000 So like now they're developing testosterone from animals, which is interesting because you're seeing people that are taking testosterone, it's exogenous testosterone, but it used to be that they were getting it from wild yams. 0.89

01:23:46.000 So what they would do is they do carbon isotope tests and they would be able to detect that the testosterone inside of your body is not from a biological, it's not from an animal.

01:23:56.000 The testosterone is actually coming from a yam.

01:23:59.000 It's a Mexican wild yam.

01:24:00.000 It's really interesting.

01:24:02.000 But now they're figuring out a way to extract it from animals, at least theoretically.

01:24:07.000 So Nowitzki says it hasn't been proven yet, but they're pretty sure.

01:24:11.000 So what they're doing now is they're taking people's piss and blood, and then they freeze it, and they hold on to it for eight years.

01:24:18.000 So the idea is that eight years from now, they're going to find out new detection methods, and they're using those at the Olympics now, which is why two Russian Olympic gold medalists in wrestling got their medals taken away from 2008. Oh, wow.

01:24:31.000 Yeah, and they haven't even gone to 2012 yet.

01:24:34.000 So there's 2012, 2016. I mean, these guys are going to get fucked over, for sure. 0.99

01:24:39.000 But, you know, Russia has an extensive state-sponsored anti-doping agency. 0.99

01:24:45.000 Yeah, well, they also are pretty...

01:24:47.000 Big advocates.

01:24:48.000 I mean, they were the ones that started it, right?

01:24:50.000 Oh, yeah.

01:24:51.000 These Germans, too, yeah.

01:24:52.000 Yeah.

01:24:53.000 Well, they started it, but also what's interesting is the scientists that were involved in the program, they all got whacked. 1.00

01:24:58.000 They're killing these motherfuckers left and right. 1.00

01:25:00.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:25:00.000 Because all the people that know, when one guy blew the whistle, one of the Russian anti-doping guys blew the whistle, apparently they just started icing these motherfuckers. 1.00

01:25:10.000 Wow. 0.99

01:25:10.000 See if you pull that up, Jamie. 0.99

01:25:11.000 Like, how many Russian anti-doping scientists have been murdered?

01:25:16.000 Yeah.

01:25:16.000 Wow, that's crazy.

01:25:17.000 They don't fuck around over there, man. 1.00

01:25:19.000 They don't fuck around. 1.00

01:25:20.000 And from what I've heard, Putin's really into the sports, too. 1.00

01:25:25.000 Oh yeah, he's into fighting.

01:25:27.000 Loves Fedor.

01:25:28.000 Fedor Emelianenko.

01:25:29.000 Whatever happened to that guy? 0.99

01:25:32.000 Motherfucker time. 1.00

01:25:33.000 Motherfucker time got him. 1.00

01:25:34.000 And Jesus got him. 0.99

01:25:36.000 Got super into Jesus.

01:25:37.000 Oh, really?

01:25:38.000 Yeah.

01:25:39.000 His body changed.

01:25:41.000 I don't know if it's indicative of his training methods.

01:25:43.000 Well, he never really had much of a body on him.

01:25:45.000 He didn't.

01:25:46.000 Well, he always had fat.

01:25:47.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

01:25:48.000 It's so strange to me when you see guys like him or especially guys like Country Nelson.

01:25:54.000 Oh, yeah.

01:25:55.000 This guy trained, like, I just don't understand how you could train all the time and look like, like, it's just like so crazy to me, right?

01:26:01.000 Like, I know, especially Roy, right?

01:26:03.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

01:26:03.000 Yeah, big country.

01:26:04.000 Yeah, it's like, well, Roy, he wears it like a badge of courage, too. 0.98

01:26:08.000 And I think Roy, if he just, if Roy got super disciplined and lost a ton of weight, he would be fighting at 185 pounds, and he'd be knocking motherfuckers to the moon. 0.97

01:26:17.000 It'd be invincible. 0.99

01:26:17.000 With that fucking chin that this guy's been getting cracked. 0.99

01:26:21.000 The big guys can't knock him out. 1.00

01:26:22.000 How the fuck are the little guys? 0.99

01:26:24.000 Well, unfortunately, his chin started to fail him in recent years. 0.99

01:26:28.000 Mark Hunt knocked him out.

01:26:30.000 Yeah, but that's just kind of like time, right?

01:26:32.000 But I'm just saying, genetically, the guy was blessed with...

01:26:35.000 The freakiest chin of all time.

01:26:36.000 Crazy, right?

01:26:38.000 But I never understood how you could train that much.

01:26:41.000 I mean, obviously, it's genetics, but I just remember when I was in the military going through, and I I would eat, like, pizzas.

01:26:48.000 I would eat butter. 0.54

01:26:49.000 I mean, I was trying to, like, gain fat because it was so fucking cold in this water. 0.97

01:26:53.000 Right. 0.93

01:26:53.000 And I just couldn't do it. 0.93

01:26:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:26:55.000 You know, like, granted, we were probably training more hours, but, like, fuck, I don't know. 0.99

01:26:58.000 I mean, a lot of these, you know, UFC guys that I know, they train six hours a day. 0.99

01:27:03.000 Yeah, I don't know what Roy eats, but it's not good, whatever it is. 1.00

01:27:06.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:27:07.000 It's most likely a lot of carbs. 1.00

01:27:09.000 Most likely he's just taking in a lot of sugar, a lot of carbs, and his body doesn't know what to do with it.

01:27:14.000 He must just have a slow metabolism.

01:27:16.000 Could be.

01:27:17.000 I don't know.

01:27:17.000 He certainly trains hard.

01:27:19.000 He's got endurance.

01:27:20.000 Roy doesn't gas out.

01:27:21.000 He gets tired like everybody else does, but it's not a fatigue issue.

01:27:24.000 Yeah, no.

01:27:25.000 What's crazy is I knew Roy way back in the day, and Roy was known as being a really good grappler.

01:27:31.000 He was a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu competitor.

01:27:33.000 I knew him before he ever did MMA, and when he did MMA, my thought was, oh, well, you're going to see some high-level grappling from this guy.

01:27:39.000 This guy's like a stud on the mat.

01:27:41.000 Nope.

01:27:42.000 Just started bombing guys out.

01:27:43.000 Never seen him on the ground, yeah.

01:27:44.000 Hardly ever.

01:27:45.000 Well, the one time we really see his jiu-jitsu was in the Andrei Orlovsky fight, when he's fighting in Elite XC. Took Orlovsky down, had him inside control, but Elite XC was...

01:27:56.000 They were really corrupt.

01:27:57.000 And they had this weird thing where if you were on the ground for more than 15 seconds, they'd stand you up.

01:28:01.000 So he's on the ground, inside control, with a double wrist lock, going for a Kimura on Orlovsky, and they stand him up.

01:28:09.000 And he wound up getting stopped by Orlovsky.

01:28:11.000 But that was that...

01:28:13.000 They were making Kimbo Slice, their poster boy.

01:28:17.000 It was like Gary Shaw was promoting it.

01:28:19.000 He was a boxing guy and he had his own idea about how to promote it.

01:28:22.000 They weren't MMA friendly.

01:28:25.000 It was just they wanted excitement.

01:28:26.000 They didn't really want to promote in a pure sense of the sport. 0.99

01:28:30.000 So the whole thing was kind of fucked. 0.96

01:28:32.000 I remember I saw Kimbo, I was down in Miami, and I saw one of his fights or whatever, and they had some alternate guy come in off the couch, and this guy had knocked him out in 10 seconds. 0.99

01:28:41.000 It was just so crazy.

01:28:42.000 That was a bad fight.

01:28:43.000 They should have never taken that fight.

01:28:44.000 Seth Petruzzelli's very good.

01:28:46.000 And when I saw that, I knew that Kimbo's a tough guy.

01:28:50.000 He was a really good guy, too. 0.91

01:28:51.000 Unfortunately, he passed away recently, which is kind of fucked up because he had a bad heart, and he was scheduled for another fight. 0.80

01:28:57.000 Did they ever figure out what it was? 0.99

01:28:59.000 Bad heart?

01:29:00.000 He had some congenital heart defect.

01:29:02.000 You know?

01:29:03.000 I mean, I don't know if it was genetic.

01:29:05.000 I don't know if it was something that happened along the way.

01:29:07.000 I don't know.

01:29:08.000 But he was a really good guy.

01:29:10.000 Like, pretty much universally loved.

01:29:13.000 Really good guy.

01:29:13.000 His story is so crazy.

01:29:15.000 I heard the guy, like, basically almost, like, walked onto the football team.

01:29:18.000 Yeah. 0.60

01:29:18.000 Yeah, so nuts. 0.60

01:29:19.000 Yeah.

01:29:20.000 Living on the streets, like...

01:29:21.000 Yeah, I mean, just a tough, tough guy.

01:29:24.000 Knew how to punch.

01:29:25.000 And, you know, when I found out about him, I found out about him, like everybody else did, through these YouTube videos.

01:29:31.000 YouTube, yeah.

01:29:31.000 Did you ever see when he fought Sean Gannon?

01:29:34.000 I don't know.

01:29:35.000 Sean Gannon was a cop.

01:29:36.000 Oh, yes.

01:29:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:29:38.000 The white guy, right?

01:29:39.000 Yeah.

01:29:39.000 The tall, big, white guy.

01:29:40.000 See if you find that in Sean Gannon vs.

01:29:44.000 Kimbo Slice.

01:29:44.000 They had a dojo war.

01:29:45.000 Yeah.

01:29:46.000 And he was a cop in Massachusetts.

01:29:48.000 And he got in trouble for beating up Kimbo.

01:29:53.000 And he got suspended, I think, from the police force.

01:29:56.000 Yeah, there he is right there.

01:29:57.000 This is a crazy fight, man.

01:29:59.000 Yeah, I remember this one.

01:30:00.000 This brawl in the middle of this dojo.

01:30:02.000 I think Kenny Florian was there and people were posted.

01:30:05.000 This was on mixedmartialarts.com, which is the greatest martial arts website on the internet. 0.99

01:30:11.000 Back in the day, we all watched this shit live. 0.99

01:30:14.000 I don't remember if we had to pay for it. 0.99

01:30:16.000 It was streaming on some website or something like that.

01:30:18.000 These guys are banging it out.

01:30:20.000 I like it.

01:30:20.000 Bare knuckle.

01:30:20.000 I remember this.

01:30:21.000 I definitely remember being like, fuck, this guy could fucking throw some punches. 1.00

01:30:25.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:30:25.000 The first time he got tested, right? 1.00

01:30:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:30:28.000 This is, well, Sean Gannon is a tough motherfucker. 1.00

01:30:32.000 I mean, tough as hell. 0.99

01:30:33.000 Longtime cop, real martial artist, had a bunch of pro fights, and there was all these discrepancies about the rules because he's got them in a standing guillotine, and they're trying to break it up, and you've got to let go, and all this different shit. 0.98

01:30:46.000 Yeah.

01:30:47.000 So he lets go and then it winds up going to the ground.

01:30:50.000 It was all stacked against Ganon because they didn't want Kimbo to get submitted.

01:30:56.000 Yeah, nobody wanted the legend to die, right?

01:30:57.000 Yeah, and Ganon's got a hold of this guillotine.

01:30:59.000 He doesn't want to let it go.

01:31:00.000 And then Kimbo winds up getting him down on the ground.

01:31:02.000 So then Kimbo's ground and pounding him.

01:31:05.000 See, like this?

01:31:05.000 This is supposed to be illegal, too.

01:31:07.000 You're not supposed to be able to do this. 0.99

01:31:08.000 But Gannon had a fucking head like a fire hydrant and just super game and great endurance. 0.99

01:31:15.000 And so Kimbo's used to taking these guys out and he couldn't take Gannon out. 1.00

01:31:19.000 And Gannon eventually beat him down.

01:31:21.000 And they had some crazy nonsense, like a 30 count.

01:31:24.000 Like when he goes down, you count to 30 before you get back up.

01:31:27.000 I'm not kidding.

01:31:28.000 And he beat it once.

01:31:29.000 He beat it once and then Gannon got him, knocked him down again.

01:31:34.000 But you could see Kimbo starting to get tired, and that was the big thing.

01:31:38.000 But so he goes from this, and then starts fighting in Elite XC, and has some great fights, man.

01:31:45.000 Some really good fights.

01:31:46.000 The James Thompson fight was kind of controversial as well, but I knew him as like a pretty tough, I mean really tough, but...

01:31:55.000 As far as, like, professional skill set, you know, he wasn't, like, at the elite level. 0.96

01:31:59.000 And so when he fought Petruzzelli, I was like, oh my god, he's gonna get fucked up. 0.97

01:32:03.000 Like, this is a terrible fight for him. 0.98

01:32:05.000 Petruzzelli's, like, he's a world-class fighter.

01:32:07.000 And that happened real quick.

01:32:09.000 Yeah.

01:32:09.000 No, I remember I was, yeah, I was, like, front row for that thing.

01:32:13.000 So tell me about your heart attacks, if you can't show me the video.

01:32:15.000 Yeah, so basically, I was 25. I was on a ski trip with my fraternity brothers.

01:32:24.000 We were in Park City, Utah.

01:32:29.000 Yeah, Park City.

01:32:30.000 And we've just been partying. 0.99

01:32:32.000 I met this chick in the lift line, ended up getting her number, and I went to the bar, and I got everybody's shit-faced. 0.98

01:32:40.000 It was like $300, right? 0.98

01:32:41.000 Got the whole bar drunk.

01:32:43.000 We're having fun.

01:32:44.000 We go back to her house.

01:32:45.000 We're banging until like 7 in the morning, or 6 in the morning, and then I get a call. 0.97

01:32:49.000 I had just showered, and I was like, just started sleeping, and my buddy's like, hey, it's the last fucking day. 0.97

01:32:54.000 We're going. 0.97

01:32:55.000 Let's ride. 1.00

01:32:57.000 And I was just like, ah, fuck it. 1.00

01:32:59.000 Alright, sure. 1.00

01:33:00.000 So I took a shot, I drank some coffee, got my shit on, went out. 0.99

01:33:03.000 Took a shot of booze? 0.99

01:33:04.000 Yeah, shot tequila.

01:33:05.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

01:33:06.000 Well, I was like, fuck, I mean, you know, if you keep drinking, you don't get hungover, right? 1.00

01:33:10.000 So, I was just like... 1.00

01:33:12.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:33:13.000 So, went, rode all day, and then that night, I don't know, I don't know if it was like a stomach flu or what, but I was just like puking, and I just like felt like shit, and I just like couldn't keep anything down. 1.00

01:33:24.000 I remember I paid like the hotel guy like a hundred bucks to get me a bunch of Gatorade because I couldn't even like leave my room.

01:33:30.000 So, next day, I go to the airport, and I knew that if I got an IV, I would feel better, because I've had some...

01:33:35.000 When you get dehydrated, that's usually the root of most of your problems.

01:33:39.000 So, I just ended up buying an IV from this medic, because the guy's like, well, if I hook this up to you, you're not going to be able to fly. 0.99

01:33:45.000 And I was like, dude, I gave him a bunch of bullshit. 0.96

01:33:48.000 I was like, oh, I'm like... 1.00

01:33:49.000 I'm a fucking medic from the military, and this and that, and I'm qualified to do that. 0.98

01:33:54.000 Anyway, this guy ended up fucking selling me the bag, basically just gave it to me. 0.98

01:33:58.000 I hooked it up myself on the plane.

01:34:00.000 Had you ever done this before?

01:34:02.000 Yeah, we did it a couple times when we were buds, like if we went out drinking or whatever, and we had to train the next day.

01:34:09.000 And this is a commercial flight or a private flight?

01:34:11.000 Commercial, yeah.

01:34:11.000 So a commercial flight, you hook up an IV bag.

01:34:15.000 Yeah, well, in the bathroom, like, yeah, before I got on there, right?

01:34:17.000 So I go in the bathroom, like, hook this thing up, you know?

01:34:20.000 Jesus!

01:34:20.000 Yeah, you know, you gotta wait like an hour, right?

01:34:22.000 So I'm like, what else do we need to do? 0.94

01:34:23.000 So I fucking, you know, hook this thing up, start feeling better, go to Vegas. 0.96

01:34:27.000 How long did you let it drip in there for? 0.98

01:34:30.000 I mean, probably 20 minutes.

01:34:32.000 So you just locked the bathroom door?

01:34:33.000 Yeah, I was in the bathroom and just hooked it up.

01:34:36.000 Did anybody bang the door? 0.99

01:34:37.000 Hey, dude, I've got to take a shit. 0.99

01:34:38.000 No, no. 0.99

01:34:40.000 I'm pretty sure it was in the airport. 0.98

01:34:42.000 I mean, this has been like fucking 11, 12 years. 0.80

01:34:44.000 But yeah, I think it wasn't on the plane. 0.97

01:34:47.000 It was in the airport, I think.

01:34:50.000 So the bathroom in the airport.

01:34:54.000 That's so sketchy.

01:34:55.000 Yeah, super sketchy.

01:34:56.000 I don't even know if I use alcohol. 1.00

01:34:58.000 I'm such a scumbag. 0.99

01:34:59.000 So, I... Yeah, so I get to Vegas. 0.99

01:35:03.000 I'm, like, feeling a little bit better.

01:35:04.000 I'm just, like, I'm such a sicko.

01:35:05.000 I'm, like, wanting to go gamble, right?

01:35:06.000 Like, I should have gone and, like, you know, checked in.

01:35:08.000 Oh, yeah, I did check into my room.

01:35:10.000 I should have, like, gone to sleep.

01:35:11.000 No, I, like, go gamble. 0.99

01:35:12.000 Play poker all fucking night. 0.99

01:35:14.000 I'm, like, gambling. 1.00

01:35:15.000 You know, poker's stressful and this and that.

01:35:16.000 My buddy comes to me.

01:35:17.000 He's, like, hey, like, you know, we got these strippers.

01:35:19.000 Like, let's go to the strip club. 0.56

01:35:20.000 We got ecstasy and all this drugs. 1.00

01:35:22.000 And I was, like, fuck. 1.00

01:35:24.000 I was, like, all right, fine. 1.00

01:35:25.000 You know, I was, like, winning in poker.

01:35:26.000 I was, like, fine, sure. 0.99

01:35:27.000 So I started getting fucked up. 0.99

01:35:28.000 Go to the strip club. 1.00

01:35:31.000 And I asked the first chick that came over, she's like, oh, you want some lap dances? 1.00

01:35:36.000 I'm like, no, I haven't slept in like two days. 1.00

01:35:39.000 I just want to get my dick sucked. 1.00

01:35:41.000 I'll give you 500 bucks, right? 1.00

01:35:42.000 Suck my dick. 1.00

01:35:43.000 And she's like, no, I'll fuck you. 1.00

01:35:46.000 And I was like, no, I don't really want to fuck you. 1.00

01:35:50.000 I just want to get the flow job. 1.00

01:35:52.000 And she slaps me, because basically she's offering to fuck me for free, and I said no. 1.00

01:35:57.000 So she slaps me in the face, right? 1.00

01:35:59.000 And I was like, damn. 0.99

01:36:01.000 And I was like, and then the next chick comes up, and I offered her the same thing. 1.00

01:36:07.000 I was like, hey, I'll give you 500 bucks to suck my dick. 1.00

01:36:09.000 I'm like, I don't really want any lap dances. 1.00

01:36:11.000 She's like, well, I'm down to hang out, and I can get off. 1.00

01:36:17.000 And I'm just like, fuck. 1.00

01:36:19.000 I'm just like, well, this sounds like she's going to want me to bang her. 1.00

01:36:21.000 I'm like, I don't want to get slapped again. 1.00

01:36:23.000 I was just like, okay, get your shit. 1.00

01:36:26.000 Let's get out of here. 1.00

01:36:27.000 Let's go after a party.

01:36:28.000 So I talked to my buddy. 0.99

01:36:29.000 I'm like, hey, I need a Viagra or some kind of dick pill or something. 0.89

01:36:32.000 And I'd never taken Viagra, so I didn't really know the dosing or whatever. 0.98

01:36:35.000 So he gives me the 100 milligram one, which is like for fucking, if you don't know anything about Viagra, that's for like geriatrics, right? 0.93

01:36:41.000 This dude gives me this thing. 0.97

01:36:42.000 I take the whole thing. 0.99

01:36:44.000 I don't know, like a minute goes by and I'm like, the fucking thing isn't working. 0.98

01:36:48.000 You know, I'm all coked up. 0.98

01:36:50.000 I think it seems like it's been an hour, right?

01:36:52.000 The guy's like, it hasn't been enough time. 0.99

01:36:54.000 I'm like, give me the fucking, give me another pill. 0.99

01:36:56.000 Oh, no. 1.00

01:36:57.000 So he's like, no, you can't. 1.00

01:36:59.000 I'm like, give me the fucking thing. 0.99

01:37:00.000 So he gives me another. 1.00

01:37:02.000 He's like, only take half.

01:37:03.000 He's like, don't, you know, don't take this.

01:37:04.000 And so anyway, so I take another half. 0.99

01:37:07.000 Wait, like, five minutes, do some more blow, and I'm like, oh, my dick's not hard. 0.99

01:37:11.000 Like, the girl's not even around. 0.99

01:37:12.000 Like, I have no, like, sexual stimulus. 1.00

01:37:14.000 There's no even reason for my dick to be hard, right? 0.99

01:37:16.000 But it's like, in my mind, I'm, like, overthinking it, which makes it worse, right? 1.00

01:37:19.000 So I'm like, fuck it. 1.00

01:37:20.000 So I take the other half. 1.00

01:37:21.000 So now I'm, like, 200 milligrams into this fucking Viagra, which is, like, you know, double the absolute max from what I, you know... 1.00

01:37:28.000 Some guys have to get their dick drained, right? 0.99

01:37:30.000 Yeah, yeah, well, we'll get to that. 1.00

01:37:32.000 So... 0.99

01:37:33.000 So, go back to my hotel, and I'm, like, fucking banging the shit out of this girl. 1.00

01:37:38.000 Like, you know, I mean, I got, like, veins coming out of my head. 0.99

01:37:41.000 I'm sweating profusely, and I'm, like, doing... 0.98

01:37:44.000 I'd fucked her for, like, maybe, like, 45, 50 minutes. 1.00

01:37:46.000 Like, it was not pleasurable at all. 0.99

01:37:48.000 This was, like, work, right?

01:37:50.000 I'm just, like... 0.99

01:37:51.000 And after, like, fuck, man, I think it was, like, 50 minutes, I just, like, I just, like, quit. 0.98

01:37:55.000 Like, I was just, like, I just, you know, I just knew there was just zero chance of me coming, and I'd, like, punish this chick enough, and I'm just, like, I didn't, like, I was just tired. 0.99

01:38:03.000 I went in the bathroom, took a cold shower. 0.99

01:38:06.000 My dick, like, wouldn't go down. 0.99

01:38:08.000 Like, I, and I'd, like, ordered some room service. 0.99

01:38:11.000 Ended up, like, tucking it up into my waist, and, um, because, like, there was just no going down for this fucking thing, right? 0.97

01:38:17.000 So eat the room service. 0.94

01:38:19.000 Oh yeah, then I actually ended up taking a Valium, went to sleep.

01:38:24.000 Banged her again.

01:38:25.000 Woke up.

01:38:26.000 Went and ate some Mexican food.

01:38:28.000 I was betting on the sports game.

01:38:30.000 And I started getting this pain in my shoulder.

01:38:33.000 And I couldn't really know what it was.

01:38:35.000 It kind of just felt like an ache.

01:38:37.000 So I started doing some push-ups.

01:38:39.000 That didn't really make it feel any better.

01:38:41.000 And I was stretching my arm out.

01:38:43.000 I was trying to sleep, but I couldn't even lay on that side. 0.99

01:38:45.000 And I'm just like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:38:47.000 Heart attack never even entered into the realm of possibility of shit that could be wrong with me, right? 1.00

01:38:53.000 I'm like, fucking 25. It's like shoulder pain. 0.99

01:38:56.000 I had no idea that that would have anything to do with a heart attack.

01:38:59.000 So I call my mom, tell her to get the family doctor on the phone.

01:39:03.000 She calls this dude up, and I'm getting kind of short of breath. 1.00

01:39:06.000 So I'm like, fuck. 0.99

01:39:06.000 So I just hang up the phone, and I find out the hospital's like 10 minutes away. 0.99

01:39:13.000 So I'm like, fuck it, I'll just get a cab. 0.99

01:39:14.000 Be faster. 1.00

01:39:16.000 I should have got an ambulance, but I got a cab. 0.99

01:39:18.000 You know, note to self, always get an ambulance if you got any shit, because I got the cab. 0.98

01:39:22.000 I was in the waiting room for like 50 minutes. 0.98

01:39:23.000 I pulled out like 10 grand out of my pocket.

01:39:25.000 I told the lady, I was like, I'll give you 10 grand. 1.00

01:39:27.000 Let me talk to the fucking doctor. 1.00

01:39:28.000 Like, something's wrong with me. 1.00

01:39:29.000 I don't know what's wrong, but I know something's wrong.

01:39:31.000 Anyway.

01:39:32.000 Did she take the 10 grand? 1.00

01:39:33.000 Fuck no. 1.00

01:39:34.000 Let me sit in the fucking waiting room. 1.00

01:39:36.000 And like 30, 40 minutes go by. 1.00

01:39:38.000 I finally get seen by a doctor. 0.99

01:39:40.000 He's like, holy shit, like you're having a full-blown heart attack, all this stuff. 0.99

01:39:43.000 And give me the nitroglycerin. 0.99

01:39:46.000 And I call my dad and my mom. 0.97

01:39:49.000 I'm like, I'm thinking I'm fucking done, right? 0.93

01:39:52.000 Because this has been going on for a while. 0.96

01:39:54.000 I'm having a hard time breathing.

01:39:55.000 I'm in pain.

01:39:56.000 And so they give me the nitroglycerin, right?

01:40:00.000 And I start feeling better.

01:40:01.000 They do an angiogram or whatever where they check out the heart.

01:40:04.000 They say there's no damage.

01:40:06.000 Parents come out.

01:40:07.000 The next day, I have another one.

01:40:08.000 And I'm like...

01:40:09.000 And I tell the doctor...

01:40:10.000 And my doctor was Conrad Murray, too, by the way, which is Michael Jackson's doctor, the guy that smoked him.

01:40:15.000 And the craziest...

01:40:16.000 That was your doctor? 0.99

01:40:17.000 Yeah, and the spookiest thing about the whole deal was my grandfather had the same doctor in the same motherfucking hospital exactly one year prior and died. 0.98

01:40:27.000 So I'm just like, you know, this is not looking good for the home team. 0.99

01:40:30.000 This is before he killed Michael Jackson's ass, too, right? 1.00

01:40:33.000 So I'm like... 1.00

01:40:34.000 You know, fuck. 1.00

01:40:35.000 I'm just in the hospital. 1.00

01:40:36.000 So I call my dad.

01:40:37.000 I'm like, I'm having another heart attack.

01:40:38.000 I tell the nurse, and they're like, no, your thing looks fine.

01:40:41.000 I call my dad.

01:40:42.000 I'm like, there's something wrong.

01:40:43.000 My dad comes down to the hospital, and sure enough, I'm having a second minor heart attack. 0.99

01:40:47.000 I'm just like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:40:49.000 So... 0.99

01:40:50.000 They do a bunch of tests, they say my heart's fine, and then they ask me for, like, the list.

01:40:54.000 So I gotta, like, give them the list.

01:40:55.000 And my ex-girlfriend's there, my mom's there, my dad's there, and I'm just, like, started off with, like, oh, well, you know, I was, like, smoking some pot, and he's like, well, you know, like, you better tell us, like, what you've been doing.

01:41:05.000 Like, it's important.

01:41:06.000 We need to figure out what's going on with you. 1.00

01:41:08.000 And I was like, ah, and you know, I did some ecstasy and some cocaine, and my dad looks over at me like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:41:16.000 My dad's like super square. 0.99

01:41:18.000 And anyway, so then I was like, ah, I think I took some Viagra. 0.99

01:41:22.000 My girlfriend's like fucking riding now. 1.00

01:41:25.000 And he's like, how much? 0.99

01:41:27.000 I'm like, 200 milligrams.

01:41:28.000 He's like, what?

01:41:29.000 He's like, 200 milligrams? 0.98

01:41:30.000 I'm like, I don't fucking know. 0.94

01:41:31.000 It's like, it seemed like what I was supposed to say. 0.94

01:41:34.000 He's like, that's like an insane amount.

01:41:38.000 So I end up staying in the hospital for like four days. 0.99

01:41:42.000 I actually fucked my girlfriend in the hospital with all these like cords and crazy shit. 1.00

01:41:46.000 Oh Jesus Christ. 1.00

01:41:47.000 I like smoked a joint in the hospital thing. 1.00

01:41:49.000 I fucked her. 0.99

01:41:50.000 Like I had a buddy of mine bringing like wine coolers and Chinese food. 1.00

01:41:54.000 I was like the worst patient of all time, right? 0.99

01:41:56.000 And somehow like, you know, so give me all these fucking pills. 0.99

01:42:00.000 They're telling me, like, I gotta take these pills for the rest of my life. 1.00

01:42:03.000 For the rest of your life?

01:42:04.000 That's what they said. 0.99

01:42:05.000 And I was just like, after, like, three days, like, I fucked my girlfriend, ate the Chinese food. 0.97

01:42:09.000 I was like, okay, I'm, like, back to being invincible again. 1.00

01:42:11.000 I threw all the shit away. 0.98

01:42:13.000 What is a heart attack exactly? 0.99

01:42:15.000 I've heard that phrase, but what is the exact medical thing that's going on?

01:42:20.000 You know, for a guy that's had two, I should know.

01:42:23.000 I don't know.

01:42:24.000 I think it's just, like, basically when your heart's not getting enough oxygen or something.

01:42:29.000 I don't know.

01:42:30.000 It's just not functioning properly.

01:42:31.000 Oh, here we go.

01:42:32.000 Usually there's, like, a blocked artery.

01:42:35.000 There's, like, something.

01:42:36.000 And I think, like, Coke is a vasoconstrictor or whatever.

01:42:40.000 So maybe it, like, constricted my veins so there wasn't, like, enough flow.

01:42:42.000 But isn't the Viagra a vasodilator?

01:42:45.000 So shouldn't that balance it out?

01:42:46.000 Yeah.

01:42:47.000 I think, but I don't know.

01:42:48.000 You know what I mean?

01:42:48.000 I don't know.

01:42:49.000 I don't really know the science behind it, but I know that, like, Coke and Viagra, I don't think you're supposed to mix them.

01:42:54.000 I don't know.

01:42:55.000 Wow.

01:42:56.000 I mean, I know I did a lot of both.

01:42:59.000 Should have canceled out, but I guess it didn't.

01:43:01.000 I guess my body was, like, so confused.

01:43:02.000 It was going so many directions. 1.00

01:43:04.000 It's like, fuck you, just shut down. 1.00

01:43:05.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:43:06.000 Wow.

01:43:07.000 But, yeah.

01:43:08.000 Wow. 0.99

01:43:09.000 That's fucking terrifying. 1.00

01:43:10.000 25 years old and have a heart attack. 1.00

01:43:12.000 Yeah.

01:43:13.000 Yeah, that's pretty crazy, right?

01:43:14.000 But your heart obviously works great now.

01:43:16.000 I mean, you did that Vegas run.

01:43:18.000 Yeah.

01:43:19.000 The crazy bike thing.

01:43:20.000 The bike, yeah. 0.95

01:43:20.000 Which was fucking hilarious. 0.95

01:43:23.000 Because you and I were talking about it, and then Lance Armstrong gets a hold of me. 0.91

01:43:27.000 He says, hey man, I want to help him.

01:43:29.000 Yeah, I remember I got the text from you, and you're like, yeah, would you want Lance to coach you? 0.99

01:43:32.000 I was like, fuck yeah. 0.98

01:43:34.000 So what did he do? 1.00

01:43:35.000 There's a bear shit in the woods. 0.98

01:43:37.000 So, I mean, it was funny, because he came out, and I was expecting, I was like, Okay, like, you know, what kind of drugs do I need to do? 0.98

01:43:44.000 You know, I'm like ready to get all doped up. 0.95

01:43:46.000 And he didn't really like want to talk about any of the drug shit, which is like kind of disappointing. 0.99

01:43:49.000 He didn't want to talk about the drug shit? 1.00

01:43:51.000 No, no. 1.00

01:43:52.000 I was like, I thought this guy would have like some like miracle formula, right?

01:43:54.000 I was like ready to get all hooked up.

01:43:56.000 But I actually had like a super high hemocrit count.

01:44:00.000 And he was actually the one that told me, he's like, I think sleep apnea makes it so that you have a really, that you can have a really high red blood cell count.

01:44:06.000 So I actually have like the equivalent of like the guys that are doing the EPO and doping.

01:44:10.000 From sleep apnea?

01:44:12.000 I guess.

01:44:13.000 Sleep apnea helps in some sort of a way?

01:44:15.000 Well, because you're basically at night, you're...

01:44:18.000 Gasping for air.

01:44:19.000 Yeah, gasping for air and you're lacking oxygen.

01:44:20.000 So it kind of goes back to the whole sleeping in an oxygen tent, right?

01:44:24.000 So the reason you do that is because you don't have enough oxygen, because you don't.

01:44:27.000 Your body stimulates your red blood cell count because red blood cells are what transports the oxygen.

01:44:33.000 So the less oxygen you have, the more your body produces that. 0.98

01:44:36.000 Well, if it gets to a certain point, then your blood kind of turns into fucking syrup, right? 0.99

01:44:40.000 This is amazing. 0.99

01:44:41.000 Look at that.

01:44:41.000 A surprising link between sleep apnea and red blood cell count.

01:44:44.000 According to Sleep Review Magazine, elevated red blood cell count or a high hematocrit is an indicator of a lack of oxygen in a person's body.

01:44:50.000 That's amazing.

01:44:51.000 So sleep apnea can actually give you more endurance.

01:44:55.000 Sort of.

01:44:55.000 Well, you know, the problem is you don't really recover.

01:44:58.000 So I actually, because of him, I actually ended up getting a mouth guard, which I think helped.

01:45:03.000 I have a really good one.

01:45:04.000 And I know a really good doctor.

01:45:06.000 I don't know if yours is the same as what I... We'll talk about that later.

01:45:08.000 I think mine was like 50 bucks online.

01:45:10.000 Surprise!

01:45:10.000 Yeah, it's probably not.

01:45:11.000 There's a guy that's close to here.

01:45:13.000 It actually pushes down in your tongue because the issue is you're...

01:45:16.000 Well, with a lot of guys who work out a lot...

01:45:18.000 Mine was they put my jaw...

01:45:20.000 It kind of moved my back jaw forward a little bit.

01:45:22.000 It kind of gives me an underbite, so it's supposed to open the airway, but I don't know.

01:45:25.000 That's not the best one.

01:45:26.000 There's a better one than that.

01:45:28.000 For me, it's a life changer. 0.99

01:45:30.000 It changed my fucking life. 0.99

01:45:31.000 Guys who work out a lot, in particular, develop big neck muscles... 0.99

01:45:35.000 And that can constrict the air hole. 1.00

01:45:38.000 And your tongue can fall back on that, especially if you lie on your back.

01:45:43.000 Like if I lie on my back, dude, it sounds horrible.

01:45:46.000 It sounds like choking and it's just terrific.

01:45:50.000 Yeah, I'm in the same boat.

01:45:51.000 Yeah.

01:45:52.000 So what did he have you do?

01:45:55.000 Lance or...

01:45:56.000 Lance.

01:46:14.000 If you're drafting a vehicle, you can't see what's in the road. 0.99

01:46:18.000 And if you hit any shit in the road, there's a... 0.92

01:46:20.000 Because on my race, I blew out a front tire doing like 30-something downhill and almost crashed. 0.98

01:46:25.000 And I was on the highway doing this, too.

01:46:27.000 So they have those things that wake you up when you're sleeping. 0.99

01:46:31.000 You know, those big fucking... 1.00

01:46:33.000 So try hitting that on a fucking bicycle with little skinny tires doing like 30 miles an hour. 1.00

01:46:37.000 That shit's gnarly. 1.00

01:46:38.000 So it sent me into the fucking highway. 1.00

01:46:40.000 And I'm getting passed by tractor trailers at like 70, 80, 90 miles an hour. 0.99

01:46:44.000 Which, if you think about it, if you're in a car and it weighs 5,000 pounds and it can pull a car, imagine what it does to a guy on a bike that weighs 200 pounds plus fucking 10 bike pounds.

01:46:53.000 Well, we didn't explain the bet.

01:46:55.000 What was the bet?

01:46:56.000 Oh, so...

01:46:58.000 It actually originally, we're in a poker game and it's got Bill Perkins. 0.99

01:47:03.000 He just makes crazy bets all the time because he's a real rich guy and he likes to just fucking make people do crazy shit. 0.97

01:47:10.000 And it's kind of like, you know, it's the poker world too. 0.99

01:47:12.000 So the first bet was he bet my brother that he couldn't go three days without saying the word the, I think it was.

01:47:20.000 He bet him like $100,000 or something like that.

01:47:23.000 And then I think he basically just wanted to shut my brother up. 1.00

01:47:27.000 He just wanted to pay a hundred grand to do it because he was like, fuck you. 1.00

01:47:30.000 Who worked? 1.00

01:47:31.000 Well, he ended up buying out because he realized that my brother was just such a stubborn asshole that he wasn't going to talk for three days. 0.99

01:47:37.000 And he's married with kids. 1.00

01:47:39.000 He doesn't have to go out and get any pussy. 1.00

01:47:41.000 And he could probably just sit home with his fucking miserable dogs and just not talk for three days and just collect a hundred grand. 1.00

01:47:46.000 So he ended up buying out of that. 1.00

01:47:49.000 It's on the honor system, right?

01:47:51.000 Oh, yeah, all this honor system. 0.98

01:47:52.000 I mean, that's the thing about the poker community is, like, you lie one fucking time, or you don't pay a debt back, and you're just done. 0.99

01:47:58.000 Like, nobody will fuck with you. 0.99

01:47:59.000 So, you know, your word has to be good, which is kind of like, you know, one of my things, which, you know, irritates me, like, when people say that I'm not authentic, because I take, like, great pride in, like, you know, being fucking 100% honest about everything, you know, so... 0.98

01:48:12.000 And that's been, like, drilled in through 13, 14 years of gambling.

01:48:15.000 That's a big one, though, if you're married, because your wife would be like, listen, it's me.

01:48:19.000 With me, the bet doesn't count, okay?

01:48:22.000 You have to say the.

01:48:23.000 Yeah, no, no.

01:48:25.000 My brother would have told him. 0.98

01:48:28.000 And so, you know, we were just discussing crazy shit, because in the poker world, they've done crazy stuff. 0.96

01:48:33.000 Like, one guy bet another guy 5,000, he wouldn't jump in the shark tank of Atlantis. 0.98

01:48:37.000 Another guy bet that... 1.00

01:48:42.000 Fuck, what was it? 1.00

01:48:43.000 I mean, I bet, fuck, I bet $400,000 on a drag race and I hadn't even raced a car before. 1.00

01:48:49.000 And then there was, fuck, there was another. 1.00

01:48:52.000 There's been so many crazy ones. 0.99

01:48:53.000 I'm just trying to think of the highlight reel.

01:48:56.000 Oh, boy.

01:48:59.000 There was one really good one.

01:49:02.000 Anyway, so he ended up betting—I'll think of some other ones later—but he ended up wanting to bet Rick Solomon that he couldn't ride from L.A. to Vegas or Vegas to L.A. or whatever on a bicycle in 48 hours. 0.69

01:49:18.000 And Rick, like, called one of his buddies that has, like, set some Guinness Book of World Records things and asked him, and the guy's like, look, like, it's not gonna fucking happen, buddy.

01:49:27.000 You can't do this.

01:49:27.000 And so Rick ended up turning down the bet, and it was just, like, really intriguing to me because I'm always up for physical tasks, you know?

01:49:34.000 Like, during, you know, Hell Week, you stay up for, it's five and a half days with no sleep, and you run 144 miles, like, boats and telephone poles, and you get hypothermia, and you're doing all this, like, crazy shit.

01:49:46.000 I don't sleep for five and a half days and you're just going the entire time, right?

01:49:49.000 So I've put myself through some real serious physical tests and one of the things that you learn there is that your body's just capable of way more than what you think or anybody else thinks it's capable of doing.

01:50:06.000 But one other thing that you learn in gambling is that there's certain things that sound like a good bet that just aren't.

01:50:13.000 Like drinking a gallon of milk in an hour. 0.89

01:50:15.000 That sounds pretty fucking easy, right? 0.96

01:50:18.000 But there's something with the lactose, which most people just physically can't do it without puking, right? 0.94

01:50:23.000 Because there's just some weird thing.

01:50:24.000 But who would guess that?

01:50:26.000 Or saltine crackers.

01:50:28.000 You know what I mean?

01:50:29.000 There's these weird little things that sound super easy, but you just can't do.

01:50:34.000 Right.

01:50:34.000 Yeah, I would think a gallon of milk would be totally doable.

01:50:37.000 Yeah, right?

01:50:38.000 But it's like a thing.

01:50:40.000 I mean, I remember I bet a fraternity brother and he'd end up puking.

01:50:44.000 I bet him before his midterm, and I remember in his midterm, he ended up vomiting on a girl.

01:50:49.000 He got kicked out of his class.

01:50:51.000 He projectile vomited a gallon of milk onto a girl in his midterm. 0.99

01:50:55.000 It was pretty fucking brutal. 0.99

01:50:56.000 Ugh. 0.99

01:50:58.000 And I was like, yeah, we had some funny midterm stories.

01:51:00.000 I actually ended up taking my vitamins one morning with, I had a thing of GHB and it looks just like water, right?

01:51:07.000 And so I ended up taking like a full swallow because I had all these horse pills.

01:51:11.000 So I took like a full swig. 1.00

01:51:13.000 And I was like, holy fuck. 1.00

01:51:15.000 I was like, I knew, like, I had about 20, 30 minutes before I turned into a fucking wild animal, right? 1.00

01:51:20.000 And so I just, like, got in my car, and I drove right down, and I, like, called my buddy. 0.97

01:51:23.000 I was like, hey, I was like, I gotta go take this final. 0.87

01:51:25.000 I was like, I'm gonna be fucking lights out in 30 minutes. 0.76

01:51:28.000 You gotta, like, come pick me up, but I gotta, like, finish as much as I can, right? 0.89

01:51:31.000 So I go in there, and I got, like, halfway through the test, and I was just like, he ended up, like, carrying me out.

01:51:39.000 Yeah, you just black out, right? 1.00

01:51:40.000 Yeah, I was like, fuck out. 1.00

01:51:41.000 Isn't that, that's the, it's a date rape truck. 1.00

01:51:43.000 I think that's Rohypnol.

01:51:45.000 But I mean, GHP as well.

01:51:47.000 They've used that on people, too. 1.00

01:51:48.000 Yeah, well, you'd have to be a real fucking asshole to do that, because if you mix GHP with alcohol, you can kill somebody. 1.00

01:51:54.000 I know people have done it, though. 1.00

01:51:56.000 Yeah, you gotta be pretty hard up for pussy to risk killing a girl, the fucker, but I don't know. 1.00

01:52:00.000 Have you ever seen, speaking of the throwing up from drinking too much milk, did you ever see the Opie and Anthony sketch with the baby bird? 1.00

01:52:07.000 Did you ever see baby bird?

01:52:08.000 You know what that is?

01:52:09.000 No.

01:52:09.000 Maybe the most disgusting stunt that anyone's ever done on the radio.

01:52:13.000 They had an eggnog drinking contest.

01:52:15.000 Okay.

01:52:16.000 And this dude, he drank...

01:52:20.000 72 shots of eggnog?

01:52:22.000 Is that what it was?

01:52:23.000 Something like that?

01:52:24.000 But then projectile vomited, and then we were trying to figure out what to do here.

01:52:27.000 Before you play this, pause this for a second, because let me explain it.

01:52:30.000 He knew he was gonna throw up, so they had this intern named Pat Duffy. 1.00

01:52:34.000 This intern's fucking crazy. 1.00

01:52:36.000 And, um, Dave from... 1.00

01:52:37.000 from Munaki?

01:52:39.000 No, who was the other guy?

01:52:41.000 Pat from Wunaki is the guy who throws up, and Pat Duffy is the guy who is laying down there.

01:52:49.000 And we were trying to figure out what to do with the throw up.

01:52:54.000 Like he said, I'm going to throw up.

01:52:55.000 And so this guy, Pat Duffy...

01:52:57.000 Was this a bet?

01:52:58.000 No, no, no.

01:52:59.000 He's an intern. 1.00

01:52:59.000 He's a fucking animal. 1.00

01:53:00.000 He's crazy. 1.00

01:53:01.000 And you're just fucking with him, or he was just trying to prove he's a man? 1.00

01:53:03.000 He would do anything. 1.00

01:53:04.000 He would fucking do anything. 0.99

01:53:05.000 Just for the story, just for the gag. 0.99

01:53:07.000 So we say...

01:53:09.000 Okay, here's the idea.

01:53:10.000 Because, you know, I was hosting Fear Factor at the time.

01:53:12.000 I go, here's the idea. 0.94

01:53:14.000 You lean your head over the edge of this garbage pail, and he throws up in your mouth. 0.77

01:53:19.000 And he's like, I'll do it. 0.99

01:53:21.000 And we're like, no fucking way. 0.98

01:53:22.000 And I think Bill Burr was the one who named it. 0.99

01:53:23.000 He named it the Baby Bird.

01:53:25.000 And so, just watch this.

01:53:27.000 Because the sheer volume, you're not even going to believe that this is really...

01:53:32.000 I'm at Caroline's all weekend long.

01:53:35.000 There's the plug.

01:53:36.000 So, Pat had won this before.

01:53:38.000 I mean, obviously, he's a giant dude, and he was on, like, number, like, 72. And this other kid, Pat Duffy, sitting there with his head leaning.

01:53:48.000 He's sitting in a chair, leaning back with his head over...

01:53:52.000 This barrel.

01:53:53.000 And to this day, I mean, they've got tarps all over the ground.

01:53:57.000 Who else was there?

01:53:58.000 Ari Shafir was there.

01:53:59.000 I think Red Band was there.

01:54:00.000 To this day, maybe one of the best moments of my life. 0.99

01:54:04.000 Just because it was so completely fucking ridiculous. 0.99

01:54:07.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:54:08.000 So here it comes.

01:54:10.000 He's like, here we go.

01:54:11.000 He takes one last chuck, and he's like, I'm gonna throw up.

01:54:14.000 Watch this.

01:54:14.000 Oh my god.

01:54:15.000 No, no, you haven't seen nothing.

01:54:17.000 You haven't seen nothing.

01:54:18.000 He throws in his face.

01:54:21.000 No.

01:54:22.000 Look at this.

01:54:23.000 No, it keeps going.

01:54:24.000 This is nothing.

01:54:25.000 When you think it's...

01:54:26.000 When you think it's over, it keeps going.

01:54:29.000 Now watch.

01:54:30.000 You think it's over.

01:54:31.000 You think it's over.

01:54:32.000 Like, there's no way he has more in.

01:54:33.000 No, he's got way more inside of him.

01:54:35.000 Look at this.

01:54:35.000 Oh!

01:54:37.000 Oh my god.

01:54:38.000 No, no, it's not over.

01:54:39.000 Look at that.

01:54:41.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

01:54:41.000 That has to be going up his fucking nose. 1.00

01:54:42.000 No, watch, watch, watch. 1.00

01:54:43.000 Keep watching.

01:54:44.000 Keep watching.

01:54:45.000 He's not even done.

01:54:46.000 He's not even done.

01:54:48.000 Oh.

01:54:49.000 How is it possible? 1.00

01:54:51.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:54:54.000 How is it possible? 1.00

01:54:55.000 Oh my god, that was like the chick in the midterm. 1.00

01:54:58.000 Hang on! 0.81

01:54:59.000 Hang on, more! 1.00

01:55:00.000 Oh my god.

01:55:01.000 And this is not fake.

01:55:02.000 I mean, I was there, and we were all there.

01:55:04.000 We all saw this live, and I think he has one more inside of him.

01:55:07.000 He gets one more off.

01:55:09.000 Nope, he said that's it.

01:55:10.000 He's done.

01:55:11.000 Oh my god, hold on. 0.99

01:55:13.000 That's so fucking brutal. 0.99

01:55:14.000 Hang on. 0.99

01:55:15.000 Go ahead. 1.00

01:55:15.000 Goddamn. 1.00

01:55:16.000 One of the greatest things I've ever seen in my life. 0.98

01:55:18.000 We're going to get back to this bike racing story, ladies and gentlemen, in a moment. 0.68

01:55:25.000 Ridiculous, huh? 0.50

01:55:26.000 I'm remembering, I don't think it was on, it might have been on one of the Jackass movies or the TV show, Bam's Uncle, his crazy uncle, drank like 70 shots of peach schnapps. 0.94

01:55:38.000 Seventy?

01:55:38.000 Oh, that's right!

01:55:40.000 It was Bam!

01:55:41.000 Bam Margaro.

01:55:43.000 Don Vito.

01:55:43.000 The big guy.

01:55:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:55:45.000 Seventy?

01:55:46.000 Seventy zero?

01:55:47.000 I think it was a lot.

01:55:48.000 It was way more than twenty.

01:55:49.000 Oh my god.

01:55:50.000 You could die from that.

01:55:51.000 There was a woman in San Jose or Sacramento, one of those places, where she was doing a radio contest and it was like, how much water can you drink?

01:56:01.000 And she died from drinking water.

01:56:04.000 Like, if you drink too much water, you could die.

01:56:06.000 Did this guy get sick from this vomit stuff at all?

01:56:10.000 The kid?

01:56:11.000 Pat?

01:56:11.000 No.

01:56:12.000 The kid's bulletproof.

01:56:13.000 Just doesn't get sick. 1.00

01:56:14.000 That guy ate cat shit. 1.00

01:56:16.000 He brushed his teeth with cat shit. 1.00

01:56:17.000 He also ate Froot Loops in the puke. 1.00

01:56:20.000 Like, he took a bowl of Froot Loops and mixed it with the puke and ate the Froot Loops.

01:56:27.000 Yeah.

01:56:28.000 There's people out there that are different than you and I, Jamie.

01:56:32.000 It's people that can do things that we can't do.

01:56:34.000 Why, though?

01:56:35.000 Why?

01:56:36.000 I don't know.

01:56:37.000 Just for the story.

01:56:38.000 What's he up to now?

01:56:38.000 I don't know.

01:56:39.000 Well, we're talking about him, though.

01:56:40.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:56:41.000 We're talking about him.

01:56:42.000 So it's one of those things.

01:56:44.000 That's why he did it.

01:56:45.000 We're still talking about him.

01:56:46.000 This was in a world pre-YouTube, really, right?

01:56:48.000 I don't remember when it was.

01:56:50.000 It says 2008, but I don't think that's correct.

01:56:54.000 I feel like it was earlier than that.

01:56:55.000 I feel like it was like 2003 or 4 or something like that.

01:56:58.000 I think it was a long time ago.

01:57:00.000 Oh my god, that was so crazy.

01:57:01.000 It's insane, right?

01:57:02.000 Oh my god.

01:57:03.000 I think that was like the guy in college.

01:57:06.000 It was similar to that.

01:57:07.000 So back to the bet.

01:57:14.000 So the bet is that you can't ride a bike from LA to Vegas.

01:57:22.000 You have a starting point?

01:57:24.000 Oh yeah, so basically it was, so he was going to bet this guy and he looked into it and he was like, nah, that's not possible.

01:57:32.000 And I was hanging out. 0.96

01:57:34.000 And I was just like, fuck, I was doing some research on it. 0.98

01:57:37.000 And I looked it up and I Googled how to prepare for a 300 mile bike ride in a month. 0.98

01:57:45.000 And nothing came up.

01:57:46.000 It came up like, how to prepare for a 100 mile in like three months, right?

01:57:51.000 So I'm just like, that's not a good sign.

01:57:53.000 But I just like, I don't know, something about me just thought it was possible.

01:57:57.000 So I was talking to Bill.

01:57:59.000 I was trying to get more time.

01:58:00.000 And I talked to some buddies that were cyclists.

01:58:02.000 They're like, if you had time to train for this, you could do it. 0.81

01:58:05.000 But there's fucking no way just off the couch you could do it.

01:58:09.000 And I'm like, how long do I need? 0.80

01:58:11.000 And they're like, minimum three months.

01:58:13.000 So I'm talking to Bill, and I kind of like want the bet, but I'm just like, I don't know how much money I really want to risk.

01:58:18.000 And so he ended up saying that he would give me, because the initial bet was like, you just had to go do it tomorrow, right? 0.64

01:58:27.000 And I was like, there's no fucking way, like...

01:58:30.000 You know, and then he's like, he goes, well, I'll give you a month. 0.97

01:58:33.000 And I go, give me, it was like until X date, and it was like a little under six weeks.

01:58:39.000 I was like, and I'll do it.

01:58:40.000 And he's like, how much do you want to bet?

01:58:42.000 I was like, ah, it was like 600 grand. 0.99

01:58:43.000 Because I wanted to bet enough to where I would do it, but I didn't want to bet too much to where I'd not only fucking break my ass, but just lose its shitloads. 0.99

01:58:52.000 I was like, 600 seemed like it was a good number. 0.99

01:58:55.000 So we made the bet, and I started doing some research.

01:58:57.000 So I go down to the bike shop.

01:58:59.000 And I'm like, oh, like, I need a bike.

01:59:01.000 Like, I'm doing a triple century ride.

01:59:03.000 And the guy's like, oh, like, you know, how much biking?

01:59:07.000 And I was like, oh, like, I haven't been on a bike, like, ever, really?

01:59:10.000 I did some mountain biking, like, 19 years?

01:59:13.000 And the guy just, like, laughed at me.

01:59:15.000 I'm like, no, like, really, like, I gotta do it.

01:59:18.000 I got, like, five weeks.

01:59:19.000 And he's just like... 1.00

01:59:21.000 He just looked at me like I was a complete fucking retard. 0.99

01:59:24.000 And I'm like, no, I've got to bet I'm going to do it. 0.99

01:59:27.000 And the guy's like, okay, what kind of bike do you want?

01:59:30.000 I'm like, I don't know.

01:59:31.000 You're the bike shop. 0.96

01:59:32.000 I had no fucking idea, right? 0.98

01:59:34.000 So he gives me this race bike, which is super fucking uncomfortable. 0.98

01:59:39.000 So I go out and I ride this thing, and I rode it like, I don't know, for like 45 minutes. 0.99

01:59:45.000 And my ass was just fucking in so much pain. 1.00

01:59:49.000 And I'm like, I am fucked. 1.00

01:59:51.000 Like, I think I made it, like, 11 miles. 0.99

01:59:54.000 And I was just like, this is going to be really brutal.

01:59:57.000 And so I ended up finding, like, a bike where, like, you could sit down a little bit more, like, a recumbent or whatever.

02:00:03.000 It looked like a lowrider bicycle, right? 0.83

02:00:05.000 Okay, so that'll, like, kind of alleviate a little bit of, like, the ass issue.

02:00:09.000 And it gave me a slightly different pedaling position.

02:00:13.000 So I got that, and then I felt a little bit better about the bet.

02:00:16.000 And then I talked to...

02:00:18.000 I had ridden a little bit, but nothing over 20 or 30 miles.

02:00:24.000 And that was kind of going hard. 0.92

02:00:27.000 And then I talked to you, and I talked to Lance, and Lance's like, oh, if you use a fucking, any other bike other than a road bike, like, I'm not fucking, you know, I can't have anything to do with this. 0.94

02:00:36.000 And I'm like, why? 0.98

02:00:37.000 I don't know, because it's like a fucking, I mean, I don't know. 0.99

02:00:40.000 It's a purist? 0.99

02:00:40.000 Yeah, it's a bike. 0.99

02:00:42.000 I don't fucking know. 0.93

02:00:43.000 So I'm just like, well, listen, buddy, I'm betting big money on this. 0.99

02:00:47.000 I'm like, I'm going to do whatever the fuck I got to do to fucking make it there on a bicycle, right? 0.98

02:00:52.000 And so... 0.99

02:00:53.000 Anyways, then I bet Rick Solomon...

02:00:56.000 Rick thought I was going to die.

02:00:58.000 Because the route that I chose was on the freeway.

02:01:01.000 And I didn't have a police escort at the time.

02:01:03.000 So he's like, this guy's going to be driving on the freeway at night.

02:01:06.000 There's going to be trucks past him.

02:01:07.000 He's got a decent chance of dying.

02:01:10.000 And the heart attack thing...

02:01:13.000 And I actually went to the hospital because I was having some shoulder pain again, and it felt very similar to the last thing. 0.99

02:01:18.000 So I was like, fuck. 0.99

02:01:20.000 So Rick is like... 1.00

02:01:21.000 This is while you were training you were having shoulder pain?

02:01:23.000 Yeah, like after I had done a long ride one of the nights.

02:01:27.000 I actually went to the hospital.

02:01:29.000 I was kind of worried.

02:01:30.000 And so...

02:01:33.000 Rick was saying that, and I was like, well, I'll bet you I don't die.

02:01:37.000 And I was like, and I'll give you odds. 0.99

02:01:40.000 Because for me, I'm like, well, fuck, I can't take it with me. 1.00

02:01:43.000 If I do die, fuck it. 1.00

02:01:45.000 And then it would up the stakes for me without really too much risk. 1.00

02:01:50.000 And so I was like, I'll bet you whatever the fuck you want. 0.99

02:01:53.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

02:01:53.000 Like, I'll bet you my plane. 0.99

02:01:55.000 And I was like, I'll give you, I think it was like 10 to 1 or 21. I think it was like, I gave him like, fuck, I think I initially offered him like 20 to 1 odds and then we settled it like, I don't know. 0.76

02:02:06.000 It ended up being where he would lose $250,000 and I would give him like my plane plus my pilots for, you know, he got my plane and then I'd pay the pilots for a year. 0.99

02:02:16.000 But you had to die. 0.99

02:02:18.000 You had to die. 0.99

02:02:19.000 Yeah.

02:02:19.000 But if I didn't complete the race, then it was like a wash.

02:02:24.000 For me, I'm just like, fuck. 0.99

02:02:25.000 Because Rick didn't think I could do it, period. 1.00

02:02:28.000 So he didn't think there was a possibility that I could do it.

02:02:31.000 And then he thought there was a decent chance that I could die.

02:02:33.000 So for him, he thought he was kind of free-rolling.

02:02:35.000 And for me, I was free-rolling. 0.99

02:02:37.000 Because it's like, if I die, well, okay, I don't need the fucking plane. 0.99

02:02:40.000 It ain't going to take me to hell. 0.99

02:02:41.000 So I'm good.

02:02:43.000 So I made the bet with him.

02:02:45.000 So...

02:02:46.000 And then I bet a little bit on the side with somebody else.

02:02:48.000 So I basically had a million bucks on it when I finally ended up doing it.

02:02:52.000 And I got a police escort through Vegas.

02:02:56.000 It was so funny because I had like 11 squad cars blocking off all the intersections. 0.99

02:03:01.000 And here comes this fucking dildo on a bicycle riding right through it. 0.99

02:03:04.000 I have all... 1.00

02:03:06.000 You're expecting a presidential motorcade to come or somebody. 0.98

02:03:10.000 Everybody's looking to see this fucking 11 squad cars blocking off every intersection. 1.00

02:03:15.000 And here's just this fucking asshole on a bicycle. 1.00

02:03:18.000 Well, a lot of people knew that you were going to do it, but they didn't know when you were going to do it. 1.00

02:03:21.000 So you didn't announce when you were going to do it. 0.98

02:03:22.000 Well, I didn't want to announce it because I didn't want people to fuck with me. 0.99

02:03:25.000 You know what I mean? 0.98

02:03:25.000 I didn't want fans to come out or people that hated me or anything. 0.98

02:03:29.000 I just wanted it.

02:03:31.000 This was bad enough as it was. 0.99

02:03:32.000 I had to be on the fucking highway. 1.00

02:03:33.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:03:36.000 So, I end up leaving from Vegas, and I... Did it in about 32 hours.

02:03:46.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:03:47.000 And what was the bet?

02:03:48.000 It was 48. Jesus Christ.

02:03:51.000 Yeah. 0.93

02:03:52.000 So I just remember, because he was giving me some shit about, because I was allowed to draft, but he was saying that the van that I had had the doors open.

02:04:00.000 Because you had to leave the doors open, because I wanted to talk to my coach, and they were filming it and stuff, so we had the doors open. 0.97

02:04:07.000 So he was, like, bitching... 0.99

02:04:08.000 Rick was bitching about that, which was kind of stupid for Rick to bitch about, because that was, like, what made it the least safe of all, was, you know, drafting off a car, because you've got to be, like, six inches from this car, and you can't see, like, shit in the road. 1.00

02:04:23.000 So if they have to slam on the brakes, you're fucked. 1.00

02:04:24.000 You're fucking in the car. 1.00

02:04:25.000 You're crashing. 1.00

02:04:26.000 And we had times when, like, there was a...

02:04:30.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:04:31.000 There was a time when we were on a fucking one-lane road, right? 0.97

02:04:36.000 And there was one lane, and we're in this lane, and there's a lane going this way. 0.97

02:04:43.000 And we had a car come to pass us as another car was coming and miss our van by inches.

02:04:51.000 And they were doing 50, 60 miles an hour.

02:04:54.000 If they were to crash, I would have been dead for sure. 0.99

02:04:57.000 It was fucking bad. 0.99

02:04:59.000 And so, like, shit got pretty gnarly some of the spots. 0.99

02:05:02.000 I blew out a tire doing like 30-something miles an hour downhill. 0.96

02:05:06.000 I mean, it was like...

02:05:07.000 Did you rest at all while you were doing this?

02:05:10.000 Yeah, I slept for like an hour or two, maybe an hour and a half.

02:05:16.000 And then I, like, stopped to eat.

02:05:20.000 But it was mostly just truck the whole way through.

02:05:23.000 And so you stayed on this recumbent-style bike the whole time?

02:05:27.000 No, I did half of it on that and half on a road bike.

02:05:30.000 And the second half of it, I did no drafting.

02:05:34.000 I just did a road bike with no drafting.

02:05:36.000 How come no drafting? 0.99

02:05:37.000 He was bitching about it, and I was just like, fuck it, I don't need it. 0.99

02:05:42.000 He was bitching about it while you were riding? 1.00

02:05:44.000 Yeah.

02:05:44.000 How did he know?

02:05:45.000 Was he there?

02:05:46.000 Oh yeah, he was following me.

02:05:47.000 So I'm having arguments with him, and I was just like...

02:05:49.000 It was helpful, but it only helped on...

02:05:55.000 So it doesn't help at all on the uphill.

02:05:58.000 So no uphill it helps. 0.99

02:06:00.000 And on the downhill, I didn't need it because you're going so fucking fast that you don't really want to be going more than 30-40 miles an hour on downhills because if you hit shit in the road and you crash, you're fucked. 0.99

02:06:13.000 If I crash, I couldn't finish the thing. 0.99

02:06:16.000 So there's that, and there's shit on the road. 0.98

02:06:18.000 I mean, I'm on the side of a highway. 0.98

02:06:20.000 There's tires and nails.

02:06:22.000 You know what I mean?

02:06:23.000 So you don't really want to be going.

02:06:25.000 And I couldn't go on the highway because I couldn't get the police escort for the actual highway.

02:06:29.000 The CHP wouldn't do the highway portion of it.

02:06:34.000 Which sucked, because that was the most dangerous part.

02:06:36.000 So I was in the breakdown lane instead of actually being in one of the lanes. 0.99

02:06:40.000 So there's just shit in the breakdown lanes. 1.00

02:06:43.000 There's fucking nails and whatever. 1.00

02:06:45.000 And you're doing it at night. 0.99

02:06:46.000 Yeah, it was pitch black sometimes. 0.99

02:06:48.000 We had fucking high winds. 0.99

02:06:51.000 It was gnarly. 0.99

02:06:51.000 It got down to 34 degrees at one point, plus with the winds. 0.99

02:06:56.000 I had a ski jacket on. 0.99

02:06:59.000 Were you thinking to yourself, what the fuck am I doing? 0.98

02:07:02.000 Yeah, I mean, I've had a lot of those moments in my life, but I was more like thinking like... 0.99

02:07:08.000 I just didn't know if I could do it.

02:07:09.000 I just didn't know physically, because I had just never done any biking.

02:07:12.000 I didn't know if my legs were just going to not be able to go anymore.

02:07:17.000 I had no real experience in it.

02:07:20.000 That was my real concern.

02:07:22.000 I knew mentally I was just never going to quit.

02:07:25.000 I just didn't want to get injured or just physically not be capable.

02:07:30.000 That was my two concerns.

02:07:31.000 Is this a video of you doing it?

02:07:33.000 Watch this.

02:07:33.000 Look at this.

02:07:34.000 Look at these two cars. 1.00

02:07:36.000 That was one fucking lane. 1.00

02:07:38.000 They just passed each other. 1.00

02:07:41.000 Yeah, that was very close.

02:07:42.000 That was it.

02:07:46.000 38 hours.

02:07:47.000 No, 32. 32 hours.

02:07:49.000 So 48 hours was the bet and you did it in 32. How pissed was he when you won?

02:07:54.000 He actually took it like a champ. 0.99

02:07:55.000 He didn't really give a shit. 0.99

02:07:56.000 That was pretty crazy. 0.99

02:07:57.000 He got a lot of money.

02:07:58.000 He's a baller.

02:07:59.000 He is, for sure.

02:08:01.000 What is this?

02:08:02.000 Is this your house?

02:08:02.000 That's my house, yeah.

02:08:03.000 Pulling up after it's over?

02:08:05.000 On the bike, yeah.

02:08:06.000 That's pretty crazy, right?

02:08:09.000 I looked like the Grinch the next day. 1.00

02:08:11.000 I was like, green, fuck. 1.00

02:08:12.000 You said the most you've won is $51 million? 1.00

02:08:15.000 That was the most you've ever won?

02:08:16.000 $54.

02:08:16.000 $54?

02:08:17.000 But not in one sitting.

02:08:18.000 That was over a course of eight, nine months.

02:08:22.000 And that was just you going at it with this one dude?

02:08:24.000 One dude, yeah. 0.98

02:08:25.000 And you guys playing one-on-one when you're doing shit like that? 0.99

02:08:27.000 Oh, my God. 0.99

02:08:29.000 I remember there was one point where I was sitting there.

02:08:32.000 That's a granola bar, ladies and gentlemen. 0.99

02:08:34.000 What the fuck is that sound? 0.99

02:08:36.000 And I checked my watch. 0.99

02:08:37.000 It's been a while.

02:08:38.000 So there was one point when I had 18 million bucks in front of me, and he had me covered.

02:08:42.000 So if he said all in, I had to make a decision for 18 million bucks.

02:08:45.000 Oh, my God.

02:08:46.000 He a billionaire. 1.00

02:08:47.000 He didn't give a fuck. 1.00

02:08:48.000 18 million on a hand. 0.99

02:08:52.000 What's the most you've ever had on one hand?

02:08:56.000 Let's see how it was.

02:09:02.000 I think it was like 14 million, 15 million bucks.

02:09:10.000 Now, obviously you had to build up to this.

02:09:12.000 Like, at any point in time while you're gambling these ridiculous sums of money, I mean, this is not that long since you were broke.

02:09:20.000 I mean, this is like you going from college to you doing this.

02:09:23.000 You know, we're only talking about a decade or so.

02:09:25.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:09:27.000 That's fucking crazy. 0.99

02:09:29.000 Well, there was periods of time when, in poker, I've played with, like, almost my entire net worth on the table. 1.00

02:09:37.000 Poker players do that kind of shit, though, don't they? 0.99

02:09:40.000 It's stressful. 1.00

02:09:40.000 It's crazy. 1.00

02:09:41.000 I've had my hair fall out before playing.

02:09:44.000 Just because you're freaking out?

02:09:45.000 Just because of stress, man.

02:09:48.000 There's just so many things that go into it.

02:09:50.000 You're not only thinking about what that person has, but what do they think that you think that they have?

02:09:59.000 The basic stuff is what do you think that they think that you have, and then the range of hands that they could have.

02:10:08.000 Thank you.

02:10:09.000 Why would he be betting this?

02:10:11.000 Why would he be calling here?

02:10:12.000 What type of hands could he have?

02:10:13.000 What are the probabilities that he's bluffing?

02:10:16.000 What is his mental state?

02:10:18.000 I mean, just trying to pick up on tells.

02:10:20.000 There's just so many things that go into it that you're so focused, and it's so much money, and any little mistake that you make is going to cost you millions of dollars.

02:10:28.000 So it's like, that is a lot.

02:10:31.000 And you're playing for sometimes 16, 17 hours.

02:10:34.000 You're just delirious.

02:10:36.000 Do you take anything while you're playing?

02:10:38.000 Pro Vigil or Adderall or anything? 0.90

02:10:41.000 I took Adderall and it really fucked me up because I just like tried to win every hand and it made me like too aggressive and I just like just fucking plane crashed into the mountain. 0.94

02:10:49.000 It was terrible. 0.98

02:10:50.000 Oh wow.

02:10:50.000 So I tried that a couple times.

02:10:51.000 No good. 1.00

02:10:54.000 I tried weed, and it fucking was terrible. 0.99

02:10:56.000 Every time I was bluffing, I was all paranoid. 0.99

02:10:59.000 So, you know, no. 1.00

02:11:01.000 And then sometimes I'm taking Valium just to fucking relax, you know, because I'm just strung out, but then that makes you kind of not give a fuck, and so you do stupid shit. 1.00

02:11:10.000 Yeah, you just almost got to be sober. 1.00

02:11:12.000 What about beta blockers?

02:11:14.000 I never tried them. 0.99

02:11:15.000 I never tried them either, but I saw this thing on concert performers, like Penis, or it was actually... 0.72

02:11:23.000 Some people that play in an orchestra, they were talking about, they took beta blockers and it made a massive impact because they were super nervous about performing.

02:11:29.000 And I always thought about it.

02:11:30.000 I was like, man, I guess it just stops you from getting nervous.

02:11:34.000 I would be really curious to see what that feels like.

02:11:37.000 Yeah.

02:11:37.000 Yeah, no, that'd be interesting.

02:11:40.000 Yeah, I've definitely heard of that.

02:11:42.000 I think it's a big thing for actors and stuff like that, with stage fright or whatever.

02:11:46.000 Yeah, I'm sure. 0.73

02:11:47.000 I just don't know how long it lasts, because like I said, you're talking about 18-hour sessions, and also you don't want anything to fuck with your mental acuity. 0.77

02:11:55.000 Yeah. 0.81

02:11:57.000 Do you study the game?

02:11:57.000 Do you study strategy and read poker books?

02:12:01.000 I did.

02:12:02.000 I did.

02:12:02.000 You know, I did back in the day.

02:12:04.000 But back in the day, it wasn't quite as advanced.

02:12:06.000 Now they have so much stuff online where you can basically watch these pros play.

02:12:12.000 I'll give you an example.

02:12:13.000 Back when I was playing, I would play in college.

02:12:17.000 I played ten tables.

02:12:19.000 At a time.

02:12:21.000 Online?

02:12:21.000 Yeah.

02:12:22.000 And you would see about 100 hands an hour.

02:12:24.000 And let's say I just played for a 10-hour session.

02:12:27.000 So you're playing 10 tables simultaneously?

02:12:29.000 Mm-hmm.

02:12:29.000 How do you do that?

02:12:30.000 You have like 10 windows open up?

02:12:31.000 Yeah.

02:12:32.000 Wow.

02:12:32.000 Yeah, so you're going click, click, click, click, all between all of them.

02:12:35.000 And sometimes you have multiple monitors set up.

02:12:38.000 And so basically, in that period, if you extrapolate that out, you're seeing 10,000 hands, right, in that 10 hours of sessions because 100 hands an hour.

02:12:53.000 So if you play in a casino, you're seeing about 20 hands an hour.

02:12:58.000 And you're obviously only playing one table.

02:13:00.000 So that translates to 200 hands for that day.

02:13:04.000 So of one day playing online, I've seen 10,000 hands.

02:13:08.000 One day playing live, I've seen 200. So you can imagine, one day playing online, I've seen more hands than a guy that's played in a casino for his entire life.

02:13:17.000 Whoa.

02:13:18.000 So just think about those, you know, numbers.

02:13:20.000 And so the thing is, like when you're playing in a casino, yeah, exactly.

02:13:25.000 Oh, this picture.

02:13:25.000 Who's that dude?

02:13:26.000 Elky.

02:13:27.000 What's his name?

02:13:28.000 Elky.

02:13:28.000 E-L-K-Y. That's his whole name?

02:13:30.000 Was he like Oprah?

02:13:31.000 I don't know.

02:13:33.000 I think he's a Swedish guy or something like that.

02:13:37.000 And so he's got four giant monitors going on.

02:13:40.000 Exactly.

02:13:41.000 I mean, these guys are playing even more tables.

02:13:43.000 Look at how many they're playing.

02:13:44.000 That guy's got 12 on each side.

02:13:46.000 Yeah.

02:13:46.000 Wow.

02:13:47.000 So, I mean, this is what it's evolved to.

02:13:49.000 You know, I was like one of the pioneers of this stuff.

02:13:51.000 Look at this guy. 0.98

02:13:51.000 He's got fucking six monitors here. 0.98

02:13:53.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:13:53.000 So, you can't do this in America anymore, correct? 0.99

02:13:57.000 Like, it used to be you could gamble online.

02:13:59.000 It stopped, I think, Black Friday was in 2008. 9, was it?

02:14:06.000 That's fucked, too. 0.99

02:14:08.000 Why not? 1.00

02:14:09.000 I mean, why not? 1.00

02:14:10.000 Yeah, I mean, it's total bullshit. 1.00

02:14:12.000 I mean, it's a game of skill, clearly. 0.99

02:14:13.000 I mean, they allow the fantasy because it's a game of skill.

02:14:17.000 And, yeah, I think it's nonsense.

02:14:21.000 I don't really care because I wouldn't be playing online anymore because I can't compete with these kids.

02:14:26.000 They've just put too much time in it.

02:14:27.000 And the thing is, now there's so much software that does so much for them.

02:14:31.000 Like, for instance, it'll tell you...

02:14:34.000 How many hands each person plays pre-flop?

02:14:37.000 What percentage of the time they bet the flop?

02:14:40.000 What percentage of the time they bluff?

02:14:42.000 And they can just figure that out based on how often they're going to have a hand and how often they bluff.

02:14:47.000 So it'll actually give you their bluff percentages on each street, on the flop to turn the river, and it'll tell you how many times they're just calling bad.

02:14:55.000 It'll just give you all these stats. 0.96

02:14:57.000 It's almost more turned into a mathematical computer game, whereas I like the more pure form of just like, I'm looking the guy in the fucking eye and just trying to figure out what he's got. 0.96

02:15:07.000 And you're also playing the player. 0.76

02:15:09.000 When you're playing live, for me, I can calculate how much money a guy has very fast.

02:15:15.000 I can figure out his comfort level with bluffing.

02:15:18.000 I can figure out the type of guy he is, whether or not he's aggressive, whether or not...

02:15:26.000 We're good to go.

02:15:28.000 We're good to go.

02:15:45.000 You know, I like to just, you know, play live, and I like to talk to people, and I like to, you know, have that human interaction. 0.96

02:15:52.000 There's a lot of these guys that are really good behind a computer, but you put them in front of another guy, you can't look a man in the eye and just fucking, you know, bluff.

02:15:58.000 You just, like, crumble, you know?

02:15:59.000 So online, they can click that button and say all in and do these crazy bluffs, but, you know, they just physically can't, like, push those chips in and keep a straight face on a table.

02:16:08.000 So...

02:16:09.000 So there's something going on when you're looking at them.

02:16:13.000 There's a certain amount of...

02:16:14.000 Like I said, I've never played poker.

02:16:16.000 So there is a certain amount of intuition and instinct.

02:16:19.000 Yeah, it definitely is.

02:16:21.000 It's not like in the movies where it's like, oh, I picked up a tail on this guy and every time he bluffs, he twitches.

02:16:26.000 You know what I mean?

02:16:28.000 That's a very rare thing.

02:16:30.000 It's more...

02:16:31.000 It's more just like understanding the person.

02:16:33.000 It's like you figure out what kind of job this guy does, like how much money he makes a year, like how much this money means to him, how much he cares about the money, how much he wants to gamble, how much he's playing for fun, how much he wants to win.

02:16:44.000 Some of these guys, they actually want to lose.

02:16:46.000 They're just like self-sabotagers.

02:16:48.000 They'll go in there and some of them, I'll see them and they'll want to lose because they'll want everybody at the table to like them and that's kind of like...

02:16:55.000 You know, the path of least resistance.

02:16:57.000 I've seen it all.

02:16:59.000 Really?

02:16:59.000 How do you detect that?

02:17:01.000 Like, how do you detect that a guy wants to lose?

02:17:02.000 He'll be, you know, he'll be just like wanting to be friends with everybody and he'll do shit to show off or to like, you know, make, because I mean, look, at the end of the day, like people want people to play bad, right? 1.00

02:17:11.000 Like you want a player to play like shit. 0.99

02:17:13.000 You want a player to give his money away. 1.00

02:17:14.000 You want a player to, you know, do crazy stuff.

02:17:17.000 So these guys will, you know, they'll put on a show for people that want to be the popular guy.

02:17:21.000 Maybe they weren't cool in high school.

02:17:22.000 Maybe they want people to like him.

02:17:23.000 Who knows what their reason is?

02:17:25.000 Maybe they feel like they don't deserve the money.

02:17:27.000 I've played with a lot of guys that, you know, some of them ended up in jail, some of them were fraud, some of them were cheat.

02:17:31.000 Some of these guys, you know, they have a bunch of money and they feel like they don't deserve it subconsciously, so they just want to give it away.

02:17:36.000 It's just like a weird thing.

02:17:37.000 Oh, that's interesting.

02:17:39.000 And do you see a lot of guys who just lose everything?

02:17:42.000 I've seen it before, yeah.

02:17:44.000 I've seen guys go completely broke.

02:17:46.000 It's tough because...

02:17:49.000 In gambling, you can just keep going up, but you can't really go down.

02:17:53.000 It's like, for instance, if you go and you play blackjack and you bet, whatever, arbitrary numbers, $500 a hand, right?

02:18:00.000 And you're playing $500 a hand, and your level of excitement when you win is at a seven, and you keep playing and whatever, and then now you go and play $1,000 a hand. 0.95

02:18:09.000 And you've been winning a little bit, or you've been losing or whatever, and Now, if you try and go back to $500 or $250, if you're losing, it's a mental fuck because it's really hard to get even betting smaller.

02:18:23.000 And if you've been winning, you don't really care about the small money, right? 0.67

02:18:27.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:18:29.000 It's one of those things where once you go up, it's really hard to go the other direction.

02:18:34.000 So a lot of the problems that...

02:18:36.000 Professional poker players have, it's called bankroll management, where they keep going up and up and up, and then when they start losing, they are completely unable to drop down in stakes and then play good.

02:18:48.000 If they lost, let's say, $100,000, just to use round numbers, at this game, then for them to go to play a game that's half that size and try and win that $100,000 back, it's going to take them twice as much time.

02:19:12.000 You know what I mean?

02:19:14.000 Yeah.

02:19:23.000 It never ends.

02:19:24.000 It's like, yeah, there may be session to session, but you're always going to be playing poker.

02:19:29.000 So if that's a good spot, you should just play until the game's over.

02:19:33.000 Even if you've won, it's not like blackjack where you should just lock up a win.

02:19:36.000 In poker, you just stay there.

02:19:38.000 In fact, the more you're winning, the more other people are losing.

02:19:41.000 And the more other people are losing, the worse they're going to play.

02:19:43.000 So it's kind of like one of those things where you just...

02:19:45.000 It's just one long session and it never ends. 0.97

02:19:49.000 How pissed do people get when they lose fuck tons of money? 0.96

02:19:52.000 Have you ever had issues with that? 0.99

02:19:54.000 Where people get violent?

02:19:55.000 Or people get angry?

02:19:57.000 Definitely angry.

02:19:58.000 And it's funny because...

02:19:59.000 And I'm a victim of this too.

02:20:01.000 I've found sometimes I've gotten far more angry at losing $20,000 than I have at losing $500,000.

02:20:09.000 As strange as that may sound.

02:20:11.000 Just because...

02:20:14.000 You know of the way I lost it or if I played shitty or if I lost it to a guy I didn't like or it was just like I lost, lost, lost, lost and just like a steady progression of losses or if I was up a ton of money and then like let's say I was up a million dollars and ended up losing 20,000 like I'd be fucking miserable even though I only lost 20 grand but let's say I was down a million dollars and I ended up losing 20,000 I'd be ecstatic Now look at the end result.

02:20:42.000 One night I won 20 grand and I was miserable and the other night I lost 20 grand and I was happy.

02:20:49.000 Right?

02:20:49.000 Yeah.

02:20:50.000 Because I started off up a million and then ended up being a $20,000 winner.

02:20:55.000 Like, that seems like a million dollar loss to me.

02:20:57.000 Because at one point in that game, I was up a million bucks, right?

02:21:00.000 Right.

02:21:00.000 So mentally, you know, I kind of like, in my mind, I've lost a million dollars.

02:21:05.000 And then in the other game, I was down a million and ended up only losing $20,000.

02:21:09.000 So I almost broke even.

02:21:10.000 So I'm like ecstatic.

02:21:11.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:21:12.000 So there's...

02:21:13.000 There's also something you were just talking about that I think is really interesting, because it kind of parallels martial arts and fighting in a lot of ways, is that you don't want to lose to someone that you hate.

02:21:22.000 Yeah.

02:21:23.000 Yeah, and that's a big factor in fighting.

02:21:25.000 That's why Conor McGregor does so well, is that he fucks with your head so bad that the amount of pressure that's on you is so exacerbated when you actually get into the cage with him.

02:21:34.000 Like, even guys like Jose Aldo, who's this seasoned world champion who never lost in the UFC. How did that happen?

02:21:42.000 Hey, Conor just mindfucked him. 0.98

02:21:44.000 And he can punch. 0.95

02:21:45.000 I mean, it's both things. 0.99

02:21:47.000 He's got skill, and he's really good at handling pressure, and he's the mindfuck master.

02:21:53.000 But you see it with guys, when guys get in these emotional situations with fighters, and then you see when they fight with someone who respects them, and they shake hands, the weigh-ins, and they can fight up to their full potential.

02:22:03.000 That is a big factor, I guess, in poker as well.

02:22:07.000 Yeah, definitely.

02:22:09.000 I mean, I've seen tons of times when somebody really hates another player and in fact has just played far worse against that guy and given that guy so much money because they kept going after him.

02:22:23.000 They really wanted to bluff him. 1.00

02:22:26.000 They're like, fuck this motherfucker. 1.00

02:22:27.000 I'm not going to let this guy bluff me. 1.00

02:22:29.000 And then they ended up just like paying him off and paying him off and paying him off.

02:22:32.000 I actually found that in poker because there was times when I would befriend really bad players and then that player would not play hard against me, you know, because of that.

02:22:42.000 And it actually ended up like costing me a bunch of money. 0.91

02:22:44.000 And then there was other times when I would just like talk shit to a bad player and they would really come after me and then I'm just smoking them. 0.60

02:22:51.000 You know, so it's kind of like, it's tough because usually the bad players are the coolest guys because they're just like the rich guys that are having fun and they got a good attitude and this and that. 0.99

02:23:00.000 But sometimes, you know, like you got to fuck with them a little bit, you know, because otherwise you're not going to be able to gamble with them really, you know? 0.93

02:23:07.000 So you want that like, you want that kind of like... 0.99

02:23:11.000 Optimally, you want that competitive but semi-friendly relationship. 1.00

02:23:15.000 Because you don't want them to just totally hate you because then they're just like, fuck this motherfucker, I'm not playing if he's there. 1.00

02:23:20.000 And then you're kind of like out of the game because he's the big sucker and he can call the shots. 1.00

02:23:24.000 It just seems like such a psychological management thing with poker players. 0.58

02:23:29.000 There's a lot, man.

02:23:30.000 It seems on the surface like an easy thing to do.

02:23:34.000 No, it doesn't.

02:23:35.000 But I feel like for a lot of people, they look at it and they're just like, oh, he gambles for a living like he got lucky or he's just good with numbers.

02:23:42.000 They break it down so simplistically that they don't realize how difficult it is.

02:23:47.000 But isn't that the case with everything?

02:23:49.000 I've heard people say that about NASCAR. Like, oh, they just turned left.

02:23:52.000 Get the fuck out of here, man. 0.99

02:23:54.000 I think the closest comparison is with the stockbrokers, stock market stuff. 0.99

02:24:01.000 Because they're really gambling.

02:24:03.000 At the end of the day, that is kind of gambling.

02:24:05.000 And they're going to have losses. 1.00

02:24:07.000 The parallel there is that you can go into work, you can fucking do a good job, bust your ass, do everything right, and then just get fucked because of bad luck. 0.99

02:24:16.000 That can't happen to a doctor, really. 1.00

02:24:18.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:24:19.000 That can't happen with most professions.

02:24:21.000 Even in fighting, even the loser gets paid.

02:24:24.000 You don't go into a fight and lose money if you lose. 0.88

02:24:27.000 Poker and the stock market are some of the few things that it's kind of hard to really have that good bankroll management because you can go and do everything right, bust your ass, and work for an entire month and lose money. 0.54

02:24:39.000 But that is where the thrill lies to the common man.

02:24:43.000 The average person that plays it safe and takes it easy and gets his 401k and doesn't do anything risky, that's where the thrill lies in that lifestyle. 0.97

02:24:52.000 Talking to you and hearing you talk about this shit, that's where people, they're getting their palms sweaty right now and they're driving to work and they're listening to this and thinking, could I do that? 0.97

02:25:01.000 Could I do that? 1.00

02:25:02.000 Could I do that?

02:25:02.000 Most people can't.

02:25:03.000 Most people cannot.

02:25:05.000 Most people can't. 0.95

02:25:07.000 It's one of the hardest things I've done and I've done a lot of hard things just because for me doing doing physically hard things actually isn't like as challenging as mentally tough things if that makes any sense because the physically tough stuff you just kind of like just fucking bite your tongue and grit and fucking take the pain and just power through.

02:25:31.000 Well that's got to be one of the benefits of going through BUDS twice.

02:25:35.000 Yeah, I mean, it puts it in perspective.

02:25:38.000 Yeah, I mean, just you know, you've been through way more of a hellacious physical test than most people could ever endure.

02:25:45.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:25:45.000 I mean, I think a lot of it comes down to, you know, a lot of people are like, oh, like, you know, you must be a super tough motherfucker and all this other shit. 0.99

02:25:53.000 And I think it comes down more to just like how bad you want it. 0.98

02:25:57.000 Like in life, like if you just want something so fucking bad, like I just remembered like when I was doing the 50 meter underwater swim, it was really hard for me.

02:26:04.000 I'd never been able to do it.

02:26:06.000 Um, Outside of, you know, SEAL training.

02:26:09.000 And the only two times I did it was when I, like, had to do it.

02:26:12.000 And I just remembered, I was just like, well, I'm just going to swim until I fucking reach the wall or black out. 0.61

02:26:16.000 Like, there just wasn't another option. 0.51

02:26:18.000 Like, I was just, like, I just wasn't going to quit just because I wanted it so bad.

02:26:22.000 So, that actually helps you.

02:26:24.000 I remember there's one guy that went into Bud's and he was, he had, like, a million dollar business.

02:26:30.000 I think it was, I think it was the guy that, like, owned Van Dutch or something, maybe, or had some, like, affiliation with it.

02:26:35.000 And I just remember.

02:26:36.000 And then he went into Bud's.

02:26:36.000 Buds after that?

02:26:37.000 I just remember he showed up and he had like a hot chick or two hot chicks and he had a sports car and everybody was just like, fuck, this dude's a stud, you know what I mean? 0.96

02:26:46.000 And then he showed up at Buds and ended up quitting straight away. 0.99

02:26:50.000 But it didn't surprise me, because I'm like thinking, you know, If I don't make it, I'm going to ship and I'm going to be fucking miserable. 0.94

02:26:59.000 I don't want that. 0.99

02:27:00.000 This guy's thinking, if I quit, I can go fuck a bunch of girls and drive nice cars and I got money. 1.00

02:27:07.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

02:27:08.000 For him, I actually think it's harder.

02:27:11.000 You know?

02:27:11.000 Like, because you look at, like, you know, what your alternatives are, you know?

02:27:15.000 Like, you know, if you put a fucking guy up against the wall and he's got no choice, then he's just gonna, like, do what he's gotta do. 0.98

02:27:22.000 Like, for instance, if I told you you had to go crawl, you know, 50 miles or I'm gonna fucking put a bullet in your head, like, you're probably gonna go crawl that 50 miles, but if I told you, hey, like... 0.99

02:27:34.000 I'm going to give you $500,000 if you can go crawl these 50 miles, but you got money and you don't really need it. 0.98

02:27:41.000 You're probably not going to crawl 50 miles.

02:27:43.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:27:44.000 It's kind of like one of those things.

02:27:45.000 It's just like the alternative is what determines the difficulty.

02:27:49.000 Well, that's that great scene in Officer and a Gentleman.

02:27:51.000 Remember Richard Gere?

02:27:52.000 Yeah.

02:27:53.000 I got nowhere else to go!

02:27:55.000 Yeah.

02:27:56.000 Remember that?

02:27:56.000 Yeah, I do remember that.

02:27:57.000 That's exactly it.

02:27:59.000 I got nowhere else to go.

02:28:00.000 That's one thing I tell people when they're thinking about fighting.

02:28:02.000 I say, is it all you want to do?

02:28:04.000 Is it your whole life?

02:28:05.000 Does it absorb you?

02:28:07.000 Do you want that more than anything that you can imagine?

02:28:10.000 It's not like, well, fighting doesn't work out, I'm going to be an author.

02:28:13.000 Because if that's the case, and you want to do it for the experience, that's cool.

02:28:17.000 But if you actually think you're going to be a champion, if you have all these other escape routes, it's not going to happen.

02:28:22.000 That's why I actually think it's harder for guys like Conor McGregor or guys like Mayweather because now they have money and they have that lifestyle. 0.85

02:28:29.000 I actually thought Ronda was going to get fucked up just because she was going to Hollywood. 1.00

02:28:35.000 Don't get me wrong, she's tough, she's fucking great, whatever. 0.99

02:28:37.000 But she was doing the movies and she's doing this. 0.95

02:28:41.000 I just... 0.99

02:28:42.000 I know that lifestyle, and I know the addictiveness of the money and the fame and all that other stuff, and now it's like these people that have been fucking living in a one-bedroom apartment are now introduced to all this money and all this fame and people, and it's so distracting as opposed to the guy that's fucking waking up every day and going to the gym and fucking busting his ass and just trying to make ends meet, 0.91

02:29:03.000 and that's all he's got, and he's got nowhere else to go, like you said. 0.66

02:29:07.000 Yeah.

02:29:07.000 And for that guy, I feel like it's far easier to stay the course.

02:29:11.000 For a guy like Conor McGregor, now he's got all this money and this and that, he doesn't have to fight anymore.

02:29:20.000 If he wants to continue his lifestyle, he does, right?

02:29:22.000 Now he's upped his expenses and his image and all this stuff, and he's used to all this stuff, so now he has to make X to maintain his current situation.

02:29:30.000 So he's got a little bit of pressure on him in that sense.

02:29:33.000 But he's not struggling.

02:29:35.000 He's not hungry anymore.

02:29:36.000 You know what I mean?

02:29:37.000 He's got the belt.

02:29:37.000 Depends on who you are, though.

02:29:39.000 I mean, everybody has a different motivation.

02:29:41.000 Some people, it's not even, like, they change the goalposts.

02:29:45.000 Instead of becoming rich, it's become the greatest of all time.

02:29:48.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:29:48.000 It's like you look at all these other guys that are nipping at your heels and you decide, no motherfuckers, I am the man at the top of the mountain and I'm going to stay at the top of the mountain as long as my body hangs in there. 0.98

02:29:57.000 But again, it's like that has to be something that you want to do. 0.98

02:30:00.000 And you could see the shift.

02:30:02.000 I see the shift in guys where all of a sudden they do it for money and they start doing it for a living.

02:30:06.000 You see that shift and it's an ugly shift because they just don't have the same tenacity.

02:30:12.000 I feel like I see it a lot in NFL and stuff like that.

02:30:15.000 I'm sure. 0.99

02:30:15.000 I mean, you probably get tired of getting your fucking bell rang, too, man. 0.99

02:30:18.000 You get tired of bang, bang, clashing heads with people and running into each other. 1.00

02:30:24.000 After a while, that shit gets tired. 0.99

02:30:26.000 Yeah, I remember there was a big basketball player, and he would play poker, and it was funny because... 1.00

02:30:32.000 He would go on these benders and he would play for like 24 hours straight or something.

02:30:35.000 I just remember we'd just always bet against him.

02:30:38.000 And he was like a big, big basketball player.

02:30:40.000 He was like the star on the team or whatever.

02:30:42.000 We would just always bet against him.

02:30:44.000 Whatever team he was playing, if he had been playing poker for 24 or 48 hours, we'd just bet against the other team.

02:30:49.000 We were right almost every time. 1.00

02:30:50.000 He just always played like shit. 1.00

02:30:53.000 But exhausted. 1.00

02:30:53.000 Yeah, fuck yeah. 1.00

02:30:54.000 It's like mentally exhausting. 1.00

02:30:55.000 He's not sleeping.

02:30:56.000 You don't eat.

02:30:57.000 It's just hard on your body.

02:30:59.000 You secrete the cortisone or whatever.

02:31:01.000 Cortisol levels have got to go up.

02:31:03.000 I mean, it's just like...

02:31:05.000 It's tough.

02:31:06.000 What's that balancing act?

02:31:08.000 I think in anything in life, but especially in risky things, whether it's playing poker or fighting or anything along those lines, something that's really difficult to do, there's this weird balancing act, and you have to achieve this perfect balance of motivation, reward,

02:31:24.000 intensity, focus, discipline, but still pleasure.

02:31:28.000 You can't be miserable forever.

02:31:30.000 There's got to be a time where you have fun, too.

02:31:33.000 It's hard.

02:31:34.000 I mean, like I said, I think it just comes down to, like, you just gotta want it.

02:31:37.000 You know? 0.98

02:31:37.000 You just gotta fucking just want it really bad. 0.98

02:31:40.000 Well, there was some study recently that I was reading about where they were talking about how you can't be happy all the time. 0.97

02:31:46.000 And you don't want to be happy all the time.

02:31:48.000 Like, literally, you won't achieve the same levels of happiness all the time if you're not miserable.

02:31:54.000 Like, you don't ever hit those highs unless you hit those lows.

02:31:57.000 Like, you ever been around someone who's manic?

02:31:59.000 You ever date a chick who's manic? 1.00

02:32:01.000 I know exactly what you're talking about.

02:32:02.000 Yeah.

02:32:03.000 The sweet is never a sweet without the bitter.

02:32:06.000 And I've found that...

02:32:07.000 I actually have an interesting outlook on that because I bought pleasure for so long.

02:32:14.000 You can't buy happiness.

02:32:15.000 You can buy pleasure, though.

02:32:16.000 A lot of people say, like, oh, money isn't happiness. 0.96

02:32:18.000 Well, money can buy a boat and a boat will make me fucking happy. 0.90

02:32:20.000 That kind of thing. 0.97

02:32:21.000 Right?

02:32:21.000 So...

02:32:22.000 An example I like to give is, you know, when I was 16, like my dream car was a Mustang Cobra, right?

02:32:30.000 So if I got a Mustang Cobra, I would have been at a 10, right?

02:32:36.000 But, you know, a Ferrari would also bring me to a 10. I mean, but you can't go higher than a 10, right?

02:32:40.000 So let's just say that I got, you know, the Ferrari when I was 16. And now we flash forward, I graduate college.

02:32:48.000 And my dad gives me a...

02:32:50.000 Let's say he gives me a BMW M5. If I had the Ferrari, now I'm going to be probably at a 7, right?

02:32:56.000 Because I'm stepping down in a car.

02:32:58.000 But if I had the Mustang Cobra and now I'm going to an M5, I'm going to be back at a 10. Well, it's the same car.

02:33:04.000 You're the same person.

02:33:05.000 You're at the same spot in life.

02:33:07.000 The only difference is your perspective because of your previous experience.

02:33:10.000 Right.

02:33:11.000 So it's kind of like when people ask why rich people aren't as happy, and I just think it's because they've upped the bar so far that only the best things satisfy them.

02:33:24.000 Like a guy off the street, when I got out of boot camp, I'll use that as an example, I go to Outback Steakhouse, I'm in a tent.

02:33:32.000 Right? 0.90

02:33:32.000 Now, if I go to the best restaurant in the fucking world, I mean, I'm, like, maybe at, like, a six or a seven. 0.90

02:33:37.000 I'm just, like, satisfied. 0.98

02:33:38.000 I got three chefs.

02:33:39.000 Like, I eat the best food all the time.

02:33:41.000 You know what I mean?

02:33:41.000 So, like, that doesn't make me happy anymore.

02:33:43.000 Like, if somebody bought me a Lamborghini, I'd be like, whatever.

02:33:46.000 Like, I've had them.

02:33:47.000 I don't care.

02:33:48.000 But if you, you know, give it to a guy off the street, he'd be at a ten.

02:33:52.000 So I can't buy happiness anymore.

02:33:54.000 You know what I mean? 0.97

02:33:54.000 I have bought every fucking thing that I ever wanted, right? 0.97

02:33:57.000 There's not really anything that I want. 0.97

02:33:59.000 So I can't buy any, like, pleasure.

02:34:02.000 And also, if you gave me, like, a regular car or put me in a regular hotel, I would actually be at, like, below the normal level, whereas a normal person would be, like, happy to be on a vacation.

02:34:13.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:34:13.000 So, like, I think that has, like, some correlation.

02:34:16.000 Like, It's kind of like a guy that wins a lotto. 0.98

02:34:19.000 A year later, he is statistically less happy than a guy that got his leg fucking amputated a year prior. 0.97

02:34:28.000 That's interesting. 0.97

02:34:29.000 It's also, I think, what are you trying to do?

02:34:32.000 Like, there are a lot of people that are trying to get rich because they think that once they get rich, they'll be happy.

02:34:36.000 They think that that's going to give them this thing that they've always been missing. 0.73

02:34:39.000 And so they've been working hard, busting their ass, and they look at all these other people like we're talking about. 0.79

02:34:44.000 You know, you land your private jet, you drive your Bentley to the club, and everybody's like, oh, it's Dan Belzerian, it's Dan Belzerian. 0.96

02:34:51.000 You want to be that guy, right?

02:34:52.000 But once you're that guy, it's like that doesn't mean anything anymore.

02:34:55.000 And then for a lot of people, there's this emptiness.

02:34:58.000 There's nothing left to chase.

02:34:59.000 There's nothing else to do.

02:35:00.000 And your life is just about possessions and upping the ante.

02:35:04.000 And now I've got to get a yacht.

02:35:05.000 And now I have to get the biggest yacht.

02:35:06.000 Now I've got to buy an island.

02:35:08.000 You know, and trying to find something to fill that void because you've sort of set your life up to chase these material goals instead of to try to find out what actually does make you happy.

02:35:20.000 Yeah, you have to have goals and you have to have stuff that, like, you know, you got to be climbing the mountain because at the end of the day, like, climbing the mountain is far more satisfying than being at the top of the mountain, you know?

02:35:30.000 Isn't that weird, though?

02:35:31.000 That's, like, not what we've ever been taught. 0.99

02:35:32.000 Well, it's counterintuitive because most people don't, like, get, they just know that, like, okay, like, you know, my dad told me, like, it's better to give than receive, and I was like, okay, that's perfect, motherfucker. 0.99

02:35:42.000 You can just give me shit and I'll receive it and I'll be happy, like, you know what I'm saying? 1.00

02:35:45.000 But you don't have it. 1.00

02:35:46.000 If you don't have it, then that may Yeah, exactly.

02:35:51.000 It's just experience.

02:35:53.000 From the time you were a little kid, you get something, you're happy.

02:35:56.000 You get a boat, you're happy.

02:35:58.000 If I have this bike, I'm going to be happy.

02:36:00.000 And it's true, and it works.

02:36:02.000 But there's a point...

02:36:04.000 You almost have to get really rich to understand that. 0.99

02:36:07.000 You really have to just buy all that shit and realize, okay, I got it all. 0.99

02:36:11.000 It's cool. 0.99

02:36:12.000 That made me happy, but it's temporary.

02:36:14.000 That's kind of where I differentiate the happiness and the pleasure.

02:36:18.000 You can buy the pleasure, but the pleasure is somewhat short-lived.

02:36:21.000 Yeah, I had a conversation with someone about this recently where I was saying that material possessions, once you have enough money to acquire basically everything you want, they don't mean anything anymore.

02:36:30.000 So they don't mean anything.

02:36:31.000 You can enjoy them when you have them, but if you lose them, it's really not that big a deal.

02:36:34.000 You know, if you get an Escalade and some fucking meteor hits your Escalade and you go out there, oh, just get another Escalade.

02:36:40.000 There's a bunch of them. 0.98

02:36:40.000 It's no big deal. 0.98

02:36:42.000 But if that was all you had and you had to save and scrape up your money to get that escalated and you kept it clean, then it got hit by a meteor, you'd be devastated.

02:36:50.000 Once you have achieved this level of success where material possessions don't mean anything anymore, then you can kind of like say, okay, well, what do I enjoy?

02:37:00.000 Camaraderie, friendship, creativity.

02:37:02.000 Like, what is it that I'm actually chasing?

02:37:04.000 Because I remember talking to this Buddhist monk.

02:37:06.000 I did this thing once where I went to all these different religions.

02:37:10.000 It was for this TV show, and I interviewed all these different people and asked them, like, what is it about your religion that's the best?

02:37:17.000 Like, say if I was going to join your religion, try to sell me your religion. 0.52

02:37:20.000 Yeah, sell me. 0.97

02:37:21.000 And the Buddhist guy was saying that sex and all these material possessions, they possess you.

02:37:28.000 And that to be completely free, you have to be abstinent, and you have to be free of material possessions.

02:37:33.000 I said, well, why?

02:37:34.000 Why?

02:37:35.000 I go, what if you achieve a level of success where you don't worry about those things anymore?

02:37:39.000 And they don't contain you.

02:37:42.000 They don't hold you.

02:37:43.000 You're not a prisoner of them.

02:37:45.000 Because you're really not worried about them.

02:37:47.000 Like, if all you had was this one thing, and that one thing was taken from you, that would be devastating.

02:37:52.000 And that's what this is based on.

02:37:54.000 But what if you had unlimited resources?

02:37:55.000 If you were Richard Branson or someone like you or whatever, it's not an issue.

02:38:01.000 Then those material possessions no longer possess you.

02:38:05.000 But this guy didn't want to look at it that way.

02:38:06.000 He didn't want to think that was ever possibly an option.

02:38:09.000 I'm like, well, it's not an option because you don't think it's possible to achieve that level of material possession or that material success.

02:38:16.000 Yeah, and that's kind of the thing.

02:38:17.000 I feel like you have to...

02:38:19.000 You have to get to that place to understand it.

02:38:22.000 But try telling that to anybody who's listening to this.

02:38:25.000 99.9% of people listening to this are never going to make a fraction of the amount of money that you've earned.

02:38:31.000 Yeah, but, you know, in some ways that is a blessing because they're going to have a lifetime of being able to buy that pleasure, too, because of that, you know, because if you start here on this lower rung, then all those little purchases and stuff like that,

02:38:46.000 you're still like, you're kind of climbing. 0.66

02:38:48.000 Enjoying the shit out of them. 0.95

02:38:48.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.95

02:38:49.000 You know, so their baseline is just lower.

02:38:51.000 Right. 0.99

02:38:52.000 They get a new fishing rod, they're fucking pumped. 0.99

02:38:54.000 Exactly. 0.98

02:38:54.000 And when that wears off, then they're going to get a new reel. 0.98

02:38:58.000 And when that wears off, they're going to buy a new depth finder.

02:39:01.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:39:02.000 It's the little ship. 1.00

02:39:03.000 That little shit, if it makes them happy, then that's okay. 0.99

02:39:07.000 But to the people listening to this right now, they're thinking, okay, well, you're equating material possessions and the acquisition of these material possessions as being the thing that makes people happy. 1.00

02:39:15.000 Now, is this because you've got 15 bitches and you're flying around on private jets and yachts and you're lacking real depth to you? 1.00

02:39:23.000 You're a smart guy. 1.00

02:39:24.000 You're not a dumb guy.

02:39:25.000 So I don't think that that's the case. 0.98

02:39:28.000 I think you're having a lot of fun, and you're doing a lot of wild, crazy shit, but I don't think you're lacking in depth.

02:39:35.000 Yeah, no, I am just trying to fully experience everything that I wanted to experience, and there's also a part of me that's kind of... 0.87

02:39:46.000 Yeah.

02:39:52.000 Yeah.

02:39:53.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:40:04.000 Over-exaggerated and beat it into the fucking dirt, so then now I can move on and do something else. 0.99

02:40:09.000 My life, I have ADD, so for me it's hyper-focused. 0.99

02:40:14.000 Is that even real?

02:40:14.000 I think it is.

02:40:16.000 I think a lot of successful people have it, and I think what it allows you to do is when you are focused on something and when you have that pinpoint focus, you can be extremely successful, but when you don't, you're just scattered all over the fucking map and you can't. 0.52

02:40:30.000 I think a lot of kids have it nowadays because of the stimulus.

02:40:36.000 I think you have so much stimulus at your fingertips nowadays that these kids, if they're not...

02:40:42.000 I guess what I'm trying to say is that people are just overstimulated.

02:40:45.000 And because they have it at their fingertips all the time...

02:40:49.000 When I was a kid, we used to just have to entertain ourselves. 0.99

02:40:52.000 We used to just go out and play and just figure out shit to do. 0.94

02:40:56.000 And so we didn't need massive amounts of stimulus. 0.99

02:40:59.000 Nowadays, if kids don't have a fucking video game and a movie playing at the same time, they're bored and three other friends to talk to. 0.98

02:41:06.000 Well, they're hanging out and they're constantly checking their phone. 0.99

02:41:08.000 They're not even looking at each other.

02:41:09.000 Yeah, and I'm a victim of it too.

02:41:12.000 It's crazy.

02:41:14.000 You'll be in a social setting and there'll be five, six people at a table and they'll all be on their phones.

02:41:19.000 And it's kind of sad that we've been reduced to that level of interaction where it's just like...

02:41:25.000 It's just all electronic. 0.99

02:41:28.000 I mean, when people call people nowadays, it's just like, wait, what the fuck? 0.98

02:41:32.000 Why are you calling me? 0.93

02:41:33.000 Back when we were kids, there wasn't even texting.

02:41:36.000 It was like flip phones. 0.99

02:41:38.000 Now it's like if somebody calls you, it's like, wait, what the fuck? 0.99

02:41:41.000 I have one friend, Joey Diaz. 0.97

02:41:43.000 We never text each other.

02:41:44.000 Ever.

02:41:45.000 He might have texted me once. 0.99

02:41:46.000 I was like, what the fuck is going on? 0.98

02:41:47.000 All we do is call. 0.99

02:41:48.000 He goes, I don't like the text.

02:41:49.000 He goes, I like the call.

02:41:50.000 I want to hear your voice.

02:41:51.000 I'm insecure.

02:41:52.000 I want to know you love me.

02:41:53.000 Like, he wants to talk to you on the phone.

02:41:55.000 I think that's, yeah.

02:41:57.000 We're definitely missing something.

02:41:59.000 We're definitely missing something by all this electronic... 0.99

02:42:02.000 Shit, but it's also like a new style of living and I'm sure humans will adjust eventually. 0.98

02:42:07.000 We'll figure out how to manage it or change accordingly. 0.98

02:42:11.000 The one positive thing I think is just that you You're so connected.

02:42:16.000 You know, everybody, I feel like everybody's more connected now.

02:42:20.000 Like back, you know, when we were kids, like, you know, a guy in Idaho is never going to fucking, you know, feel any connection whatsoever with somebody that's, you know, in California.

02:42:27.000 But now, like, that guy can upload a YouTube video and everybody around the world can see it.

02:42:32.000 And people are just, you know, dating-wise, social media-wise, like whatever, they're just, there is more connection.

02:42:38.000 I mean, I feel like it's not quite as real and it's not as tangible, but...

02:42:43.000 And people, I think, are also losing their ability to kind of, like, interact.

02:42:50.000 Like, my older friends, like, we'll sit around, we'll tell stories, and it's like, we'll have fun.

02:42:54.000 And it's like, the younger generation, when you watch them interact, it's almost, like, comical.

02:42:59.000 It's like, these people, like, socially awkward.

02:43:01.000 Like, they don't, like, people don't know how to, like, approach girls anymore.

02:43:04.000 It's just like, and the whole thing's been, like, reduced to, like, online dating.

02:43:08.000 It's just...

02:43:10.000 It's a new world, for sure.

02:43:12.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:43:13.000 It is a new world, but what I found really fascinating is that, because I travel a lot doing stand-up, is that there's no dumb places anymore. 0.96

02:43:21.000 Like, you can go to, you know, fill in the blanks, some place in the middle of the Midwest, Boise, Idaho, or whatever, and you'll do a show there, and the fucking people are on the ball. 0.99

02:43:30.000 They know what the fuck's going on. 0.99

02:43:32.000 They're so much more informed. 1.00

02:43:34.000 When I used to travel on the road in the 90s, when I used to do stand-up in the 90s, and you know, flying to Ohio or, sorry Jamie, flying to some place in the middle of the country, those fucking people were apes. 0.99

02:43:45.000 I mean, they didn't know anything. 0.98

02:43:46.000 They were like, what's it like to be on an airplane? 0.99

02:43:49.000 I mean, They fucking didn't know anything. 0.99

02:43:51.000 But now, it's like you run into the same kind of people in LA that you can run into in, you know, fill in the blank, you know, Phoenix or wherever the fuck it is. 0.99

02:44:00.000 There's no dumb cities anymore. 0.98

02:44:02.000 You're still going to find some dumb people, but I think overall, the awareness level of people has changed. 0.98

02:44:08.000 And I think that's... 0.96

02:44:10.000 You know, a lot due to the internet.

02:44:12.000 A hundred percent.

02:44:13.000 I mean, when I was a kid, if I wanted to know something, my mom's like, okay, look it up in the Encyclopedia Britannica. 0.99

02:44:18.000 And I'm like, fuck that. 0.96

02:44:19.000 You know, like, I'm not going to do that. 0.99

02:44:21.000 And we literally would have, like, hundreds of encyclopedias around the thing.

02:44:26.000 And, like, and, you know, we thought that was great.

02:44:28.000 But now it's like, you want to know something, you Google it, and you just instantly know it.

02:44:32.000 You don't even have to press it.

02:44:34.000 You just talk in your phone.

02:44:35.000 You don't have to type, you know?

02:44:36.000 Yeah, you just ask Siri.

02:44:38.000 It's like so great.

02:44:39.000 Yeah, Google cold fusion.

02:44:40.000 Blip! 0.88

02:44:41.000 Just shows you instantaneously.

02:44:42.000 I mean, it's so freaky that they didn't even think about it in Star Trek or Star Wars.

02:44:47.000 None of those places had the internet.

02:44:48.000 None of those visions of science fiction in the future had the internet.

02:44:52.000 It's just...

02:44:53.000 I think it's going to be, when history is all said and done, when people look back in this era, it's going to be one of the biggest changes in the human race ever.

02:45:00.000 And we're in the middle of it.

02:45:02.000 It's a storm and we're just caught up in it.

02:45:04.000 And like you were talking about when you were saying how you're so wealthy and it's just normal.

02:45:08.000 It just becomes normal to you to have all this money and someone gives you a Lamborghini.

02:45:11.000 It's normal.

02:45:12.000 Well, this wealth of information is normal to us.

02:45:15.000 It just seems normal.

02:45:17.000 My kids are young.

02:45:19.000 They're growing up with the internet their whole life.

02:45:21.000 They've never experienced anything but the internet. 0.99

02:45:23.000 To them, they're not going to know how weird it was to run into bullshit artists. 0.99

02:45:27.000 People just lied about stuff. 0.99

02:45:29.000 You couldn't Google them. 0.99

02:45:30.000 If you want to know about somebody, you fucking Google them and it's like, okay, this guy's a scam artist. 1.00

02:45:35.000 This chick's a hooker. 1.00

02:45:37.000 You just got their life story. 1.00

02:45:38.000 It's like, bam, Wikipedia.

02:45:41.000 It's kind of crazy.

02:45:42.000 Before we did the podcast, we started talking about psychedelics, and you started talking about some psychedelic experiences that you had, and I said, like, save it.

02:45:50.000 Save it.

02:45:52.000 Because I wanted to talk to you about it on the air.

02:45:54.000 So tell me what has happened.

02:45:55.000 I mean, you actually are the one that turned me on to it, the DMT. The first time I tried it, I was at Burning Man, and I smoked a small amount of it.

02:46:08.000 And it was interesting.

02:46:09.000 I mean, I felt like it was a pretty enlightening experience.

02:46:13.000 I tried it a second time.

02:46:15.000 We had this...

02:46:16.000 When you say a small amount, like how many hits?

02:46:18.000 Just one.

02:46:19.000 Just one.

02:46:19.000 So I wasn't like deep in it or anything.

02:46:22.000 She just got to the doorway, took a look inside.

02:46:24.000 Yeah, and I just, I don't know, I felt like a little bit of sense of peace and clarity, you know, but that was all I really got from it.

02:46:30.000 The second time, I did not have a good experience.

02:46:32.000 I had this shaman monk come over and He, or priest, or whatever you call him.

02:46:37.000 And I don't know if we did too much, but I just didn't really get too much out of it.

02:46:44.000 I actually got more out of it after, but during the experience, it was like...

02:46:51.000 It was just too much.

02:46:52.000 I didn't really get anything.

02:46:53.000 Like, it was just almost like...

02:46:54.000 Overwhelming?

02:46:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:46:56.000 It was just overwhelming where, like...

02:46:58.000 Yeah, it was almost like a video game, kind of, is the best way I'd describe it, where I just, like, kind of...

02:47:05.000 Almost seemed like everything was kind of, like, separating apart.

02:47:08.000 But I didn't really get too much.

02:47:11.000 And then the third time I had a similar experience.

02:47:17.000 But that was just the smoking.

02:47:20.000 I haven't done ayahuasca or anything like that.

02:47:22.000 I did mushrooms three times.

02:47:25.000 It's funny.

02:47:27.000 I had a couple, so the first time I did mushrooms, I think I was in high school, and I just never forget because it was like 1.30 in the morning or whatever, and I just wanted to call all my friends and tell them how great it was and have a conversation. 0.97

02:47:38.000 I remember them picking up the phone like, dude, it's 1.30, fuck off, you know?

02:47:42.000 But I was just like, I wanted to talk to everybody. 0.99

02:47:44.000 I was like, I was having a good time.

02:47:46.000 And then I did it in Amsterdam.

02:47:49.000 I got sick.

02:47:51.000 And it was funny because I actually did it four times.

02:47:54.000 The third time I did it, we were in Amsterdam and we were walking down this long alleyway and we were probably about 75 yards down the alleyway and a buddy of mine was like, oh, give me a second.

02:48:09.000 And we kept walking and we turned around about five seconds later, ten seconds later and he was gone.

02:48:17.000 And it was probably like a 200-yard alleyway. 0.98

02:48:19.000 I mean, this guy was fucking Ben Johnson. 0.99

02:48:21.000 He couldn't have made... 0.99

02:48:22.000 It was like a long, long alleyway.

02:48:24.000 If he was in a dead sprint, he was the fastest guy in the world he couldn't have made to the end.

02:48:28.000 And there was no ladders, no nothing.

02:48:31.000 We're just like... 0.99

02:48:32.000 What the fuck happened to this dude? 0.99

02:48:34.000 We're just like... 0.99

02:48:35.000 And nobody...

02:48:35.000 And we haven't even really started tripping.

02:48:37.000 But we're like...

02:48:38.000 We thought this dude got abducted by aliens.

02:48:41.000 There was no explanation, right?

02:48:43.000 We turn around and we're just like... 0.98

02:48:44.000 We all look at each other like, what the fuck happened? 0.99

02:48:48.000 And we knew these mushrooms were going to hit soon. 0.99

02:48:50.000 So we're just like...

02:48:51.000 But we didn't feel it.

02:48:52.000 We're like, the mushrooms ain't hit.

02:48:53.000 We just ate it like 5, 10, whatever.

02:48:55.000 And it hadn't hit.

02:48:57.000 Walked around the corner... 0.98

02:48:59.000 And there was a police station where we're like, oh shit, I guess we should ask them. 0.96

02:49:03.000 And we went in there and we're like, we don't know what happened to our friend. 0.98

02:49:06.000 We don't know if he got abducted or whatever.

02:49:08.000 And we're like, he looks like this.

02:49:10.000 And so there's this long alleyway, right? 0.99

02:49:13.000 And this motherfucker chose the one spot to piss where apparently there was like a secret door that opened inward into the police station and there was a camera facing down on it. 0.99

02:49:23.000 And he was pissing on the door of the police station. 1.00

02:49:26.000 They grabbed him mid-piss, his dick still out, yanked him into the fucking police station and threw him in jail. 1.00

02:49:33.000 And so we get this information. 1.00

02:49:35.000 We're like, oh, fuck. 0.99

02:49:37.000 What do we got to do? 1.00

02:49:38.000 We got to pay this guy.

02:49:39.000 We're like, this dude never done mushrooms before.

02:49:41.000 His first experience, he's going to be in a jail in Amsterdam. 1.00

02:49:44.000 This guy's going to fucking lose his mind. 0.99

02:49:46.000 We got to get him out. 0.99

02:49:47.000 So we ended up paying these people, and then like, I forget, we had to pay them a lot because I was in college, and I remember it was like a significant amount of money for us.

02:49:55.000 But we bailed them out, and then I ended up, I remember I offered like the chick at the counter, I was like, I'll give you a hundred bucks if you'll mail this to his parents, or the video of him pissing and getting arrested if you mailed it to his parents. 0.98

02:50:07.000 It's like, get the fuck out of here. 0.93

02:50:09.000 And So that was number three. 0.95

02:50:12.000 And then the fourth time I did it, I was in...

02:50:14.000 It was that trip that I took to Puerto Vallarta.

02:50:18.000 And when I took my buddy that won the...

02:50:20.000 Or he got second in the World Series of Poker.

02:50:22.000 And I'll never forget it because I was...

02:50:26.000 I was downstairs and we had this big villa on the edge of a cliff.

02:50:31.000 And I remember not wanting to have sex.

02:50:35.000 And I was just like, this is the greatest thing for the first time. 0.99

02:50:39.000 Like, my dick doesn't control me. 0.97

02:50:41.000 This is so nice to just be able to relax and not... 0.99

02:50:47.000 Because we had all these chicks running around. 1.00

02:50:48.000 I was banging them the whole weekend. 0.89

02:50:50.000 I was like, to just not even have to think about it because I have no desire to have sex right now.

02:50:54.000 I remember having that thought and being like, wow, this is great. 0.99

02:50:58.000 And I'm so fucked up that I took that as a personal challenge to see if I could have sex with this girl for like 40 minutes. 0.99

02:51:07.000 On mushrooms. 1.00

02:51:08.000 On mushrooms. 1.00

02:51:08.000 It was the craziest fucking experience ever. 1.00

02:51:11.000 I didn't even really enjoy it that much. 0.99

02:51:13.000 But I just remember at the end of it, I was like, wow, you had this opportunity where you were not consumed with wanting to have sex and you completely fucking ruined it for no reason. 0.98

02:51:24.000 That's hilarious. 0.97

02:51:26.000 The first time I had a mushroom trip, I was with my friend Eddie and we were near a mountain.

02:51:33.000 It was like a very high hill.

02:51:35.000 We were below it.

02:51:36.000 And we were laying down in the grass, just laughing and giggling.

02:51:40.000 And I don't know if you've ever been lying down looking up at a mountain range and you see the sky and the clouds go overhead.

02:51:50.000 It was the first time, I think, in my life That I... Really took in the concept of an atmosphere, of the shape of the Earth being round, and that behind that atmosphere, I'm looking up at this blue sky,

02:52:06.000 it's beautiful, but I didn't see the blue sky anymore.

02:52:08.000 I saw it, I knew it was there, but I realized that it's just this layer, and then beyond that is the vast infinity of space.

02:52:17.000 And I remember looking at it and thinking for the first time, because of this hill, I could see, I'm like, oh my god, we're like in a convertible spaceship.

02:52:25.000 This whole thing is a spaceship.

02:52:26.000 This is an illusion.

02:52:27.000 We're standing here like we're on ground.

02:52:30.000 We're laying down on the grass, looking up at the sky.

02:52:33.000 But this is not sky.

02:52:35.000 This is a thin layer of atmosphere that's protecting you from space.

02:52:41.000 And then above that is...

02:52:43.000 There's no end to it. 0.94

02:52:45.000 And it fucking stuck in my head, that idea, like for the very first time. 0.89

02:52:50.000 And it's something about being below a mountain and lying down and looking up and seeing the mountain and seeing the air and seeing the clouds go, where it just set into my mind like, whoa, that's an atmosphere. 0.96

02:53:01.000 This isn't just the sky.

02:53:04.000 From that moment on, I can look up at a mountain now, and I get this weird, almost half-trippy feeling.

02:53:12.000 That's one thing that I've heard, actually, about a lot of psychedelics, is that...

02:53:17.000 It doesn't rewire you, but it just makes you think about certain things differently.

02:53:23.000 And I think they explained that there's some chemical thing where it almost resets you to where you can have a new perspective on certain things.

02:53:32.000 That's one of the things that I rigged.

02:53:33.000 I was considering doing acid at Burning Man this last year.

02:53:37.000 Because I've heard from a lot of people that it's a more clean form of the mushrooms, and they kind of got more out of it.

02:53:45.000 And I had 10 people tell me that it was the best experience of their life.

02:53:49.000 And so that's a pretty strong statement, to have 10 people tell you that.

02:53:53.000 Yeah, I did it this year for the first time.

02:53:56.000 I don't know.

02:53:57.000 I wouldn't say it's powerful.

02:54:00.000 I mean, they're all amazing.

02:54:01.000 They all have their own little thing that goes on with them.

02:54:03.000 But the changing of perspective is really beneficial to people that have addictions.

02:54:09.000 Like, apparently, people that smoke cigarettes, they'll have a powerful mushroom trip, and they don't have any desire to smoke cigarettes anymore.

02:54:14.000 It's a really common experience.

02:54:16.000 Drug addicts, and even people that probably have other weird addictions, like gambling addictions or sex addictions.

02:54:23.000 Yeah, like I said, I think I had a small experience like that with the sex thing on the mushrooms.

02:54:29.000 And it was, like, pretty liberating.

02:54:31.000 Yeah, I mean, I think for a lot of people, they get trapped in the momentum of the life that they're in.

02:54:37.000 Whatever it is.

02:54:38.000 And sometimes, psychedelic trips, or, you know, sometimes for people, it's just a near-death experience.

02:54:43.000 You almost drown, or you don't drown. 0.84

02:54:45.000 You get out of there, and you're like, holy shit, I gotta rethink my whole life. 0.99

02:54:48.000 And it just changes who you are. 0.97

02:54:50.000 Like, the reset.

02:54:52.000 Yeah, I mean, I've preached this for a long time.

02:54:55.000 I think just so much of your life is just perspective.

02:54:58.000 I mean, it really is.

02:54:59.000 You know, a lot of times I have these crazy parties.

02:55:03.000 I'll invite disabled veterans out or whatever and try to show them a good time.

02:55:07.000 One time I had this one guy who got both his legs blown off in Afghanistan.

02:55:12.000 Super cool dude.

02:55:13.000 Really humble, nice guy. 1.00

02:55:16.000 There was this super hot chick that was at the party and I really wanted to fuck her, but I was like, I'll see if she can get her to fuck him. 1.00

02:55:23.000 And I paid her a fucking ton of money, which is kind of fucked up. 1.00

02:55:27.000 She ended up fucking this guy. 1.00

02:55:29.000 And I was fucked up and I ended up passing out and I forgot about it. 0.99

02:55:33.000 And the next day we're sitting there at breakfast. 0.99

02:55:36.000 And I was just like, I was so fucking miserable. 0.99

02:55:39.000 And I look over at this dude and I'm just like, you know, like, what the fuck are you so happy? 1.00

02:55:42.000 He's like smiling and eating his shit. 1.00

02:55:44.000 You know, I'm hungover. 1.00

02:55:46.000 I'm like, what the fuck are you so happy about? 1.00

02:55:48.000 You know, he's like, he's like, shit, man. 1.00

02:55:50.000 He's like, I feel great. 1.00

02:55:51.000 Oh, you're not hungover. 0.99

02:55:52.000 He's like, yeah, he's like, I don't give a shit, though. 0.98

02:55:55.000 And I'm just like, dude, I gotta ask you, man. 0.99

02:55:57.000 I'm like, you got the fucking best attitude. 0.98

02:55:59.000 I was like, since you've been here, I was like, you've always been fucking positive. 0.99

02:56:02.000 I was like, you know, do you ever have moments where you're just fucking depressed about the fucking amputation or any of that stuff? 0.99

02:56:11.000 I was like, does that fuck with you? 0.99

02:56:12.000 I was like, how do you maintain such a good attitude? 1.00

02:56:14.000 I was like, I think it's amazing.

02:56:15.000 And he's like, what are you talking about?

02:56:17.000 He's like, losing my leg is the best thing that ever happened to me.

02:56:19.000 And I'll just never forget it because that statement was just like so like...

02:56:24.000 Different from what I ever expected this guy to say, right? 0.92

02:56:27.000 And he followed it up with, you know, if that never happened to me, he's like, I'd be over in fucking some sand pit in Afghanistan. 0.99

02:56:33.000 I'd just be another number and nobody would give a shit about me. 0.99

02:56:36.000 And then when I came home, he's like, I'd just be, you know, a fucking military guy and everybody in my town wouldn't care. 0.99

02:56:43.000 He's like, now, he's like, I go and I motivate people and I give these speeches. 0.98

02:56:47.000 He goes, and people look up to me and I'm inspiring people. 0.98

02:56:50.000 He's like, and I get to do cool shit. 0.98

02:56:51.000 I just got a fucking brand new rifle the other week for free. 0.99

02:56:54.000 He goes, the military is paying me. 1.00

02:56:56.000 He goes, I'm fucking partying here with you. 1.00

02:56:58.000 I fucked a super hot chick last night. 1.00

02:57:00.000 And then I remembered, I was like, oh, that's good. 1.00

02:57:03.000 It was just like funny though, because...

02:57:06.000 Like, his whole thought process about it was so great. 0.99

02:57:09.000 And I could just see how another guy, if that happened to him, could easily, like, get into, like, the woe is me and the whole, like, you know, fuck this. 0.99

02:57:17.000 You know, I'm depressed. 0.99

02:57:18.000 And, you know, think about it all the time.

02:57:20.000 Like, how could this have gone?

02:57:21.000 You know. 0.99

02:57:21.000 But this guy just, like, accepted it, fucking charged with it. 0.99

02:57:25.000 And I was just, like, he viewed it as, like, a huge positive. 0.98

02:57:29.000 And I thought that was great.

02:57:31.000 I don't know if you've ever seen...

02:57:33.000 They got this YouTube thing.

02:57:34.000 It's like the story of the Chinese farmer.

02:57:36.000 You ever seen that?

02:57:37.000 No.

02:57:38.000 So he loses his horse and everybody in the town comes over and they say, oh, well, that's terrible.

02:57:43.000 And he's like, maybe.

02:57:49.000 And then the next day, seven wild horses come back and they all come over and they say, oh, well.

02:57:54.000 That's great.

02:57:55.000 And he says, well, maybe.

02:57:56.000 And the next day, his kid is taking out one of the wild horses and breaks his leg.

02:58:00.000 And the whole town comes over and they say, oh, that's terrible now, isn't it?

02:58:03.000 He says, maybe.

02:58:05.000 And the next day, the conscription officers come over and they're, you know, taking people into the military to go fight.

02:58:11.000 And they pass by his son because he's got a broken leg.

02:58:14.000 And the whole town comes over and they say, you know, and they say, oh, that's great now, isn't it?

02:58:17.000 He says, maybe.

02:58:19.000 And the point of it is that you never really know if something is bad or good because you don't know how that's going to affect the rest of your life. 0.96

02:58:29.000 Like back, you know, when I, you know, fuck, I'm two days before graduating SEAL training. 0.67

02:58:33.000 I've done 510 days of it. 1.00

02:58:35.000 I've put my fucking heart and soul into this fucking thing. 1.00

02:58:38.000 And I get kicked out because some fucking guy doesn't like me. 1.00

02:58:41.000 And, you know, it's kind of hard to look at that in any way other than, oh, that's fucking terrible. 0.99

02:58:46.000 But as I'm older and I've experienced a lot, I can look at that and be like, well, half my class died, right, in combat. 0.99

02:58:53.000 So I could have fucking died. 0.95

02:58:56.000 If I would have became a Navy SEAL then that might have just been like what I hung my hat on you know and I was just like for the rest of my life I didn't feel like I really needed to fucking prove anything or excel or do anything because I've done this thing that everybody views as great and I don't know if I would have been as motivated. 0.99

02:59:13.000 And so there's just a lot of things like that in your life that in the short term you look at them as being extreme negatives or something that you even view as positive.

02:59:23.000 It's just hard to say until it's kind of like run its course and you see what effects that has later on down the line. 0.97

02:59:31.000 We're going to end it with some deep shit, Dan Bilzerian. 0.99

02:59:33.000 I knew I'd get some deep shit out of you. 1.00

02:59:35.000 I knew it was in there, goddammit. 0.99

02:59:37.000 Thank you very much, man.

02:59:38.000 I really appreciate it.

02:59:39.000 That was a lot of fun.

02:59:40.000 Really appreciate it.

02:59:42.000 Obviously, Instagram, Dan, Twitter, the same, right?

02:59:46.000 Thanks, brother.

02:59:46.000 That was fun.

02:59:47.000 Good times.

02:59:48.000 Good night, everybody.

02:59:48.000 Oh, we'll be back tomorrow with Jesse Ventura.

02:59:50.000 Holy shit. 0.99

02:59:53.000 Cool. 1.00

02:59:54.000 That was great.

The Joe Rogan Experience - October 12, 2016

Joe Rogan Experience #857 - Dan Bilzerian

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