The Joe Rogan Experience - October 13, 2016


Joe Rogan Experience #858 - Jesse Ventura

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Former Minnesota Governor Norm Coleman joins the show to talk about his views on gun control and concealed carry. He also talks about his experience as mayor of Brooklyn Park, New York City, and how he got to where he is today, and why he thinks more guns should be allowed to be legally carried in the U.S. He also discusses his experience growing up in the Philippines, and what it was like growing up as a martial arts fighter in the late 80s and early 90s, and his thoughts on martial arts and martial arts culture in general, and the impact it had on the way he grew up and how it has impacted his life to this day, including his experience in martial arts, martial arts training, and growing up with martial arts as a child in the 1970s and 1980s, as well as how he became an advocate for gun control in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks in the United States and the subsequent surge in gun control efforts by the National Guard and the Department of Homeland Security, including the introduction of background checks, background checks and background checks for gun buyers, and whether or not they should be required to get them. and much, much more! Enjoy the episode and share it with your friends, family, and fellow martial arts fanatics! Tweet me to let us know what you thought of this episode! Timestamps: 4:00 - What do you think of it? 6:30 - What would you like to see in the next episode? 7:15 - Where do you stand on the gun control? 8: What kind of gun control should be legalized? 9:00 10:00- What is your background check? 11: What are you most likely to get? 13: What do we stand up to? 14:40 - How would you get a background check for a gun background check ? 15:50 - How do you shoot a gun legally? 16:10 - How much do you need to be able to carry a gun in the US? 17:20 - What are your background checks? 18:30 What kind gun background checks should I be allowed? 19:10 21:40 22:30- How do I feel about the process for background checks in regards to my background check process? 27:30 What do I think I would be a gun owner? 26:30 Can I be a good gun dealer?

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00:00:06.000 First of all, Mr. Ventura, I'm a big fan, but I'm an even bigger fan now that I know that you're pro fanny pack.
00:00:12.000 This is huge for me.
00:00:13.000 I've been trying to bring back the fanny pack for years.
00:00:16.000 I've been nothing but ridiculed, ashamed, sent my way.
00:00:20.000 I find that strange because I'm a huge fan.
00:00:24.000 I have one locked in my hotel right now in the safe.
00:00:28.000 You know, they give you little safes in the room.
00:00:30.000 Well, I carry my passport in it.
00:00:33.000 I carry the things that I need to travel if I'm doing airline travel, my schedules.
00:00:37.000 I carry two sets of reading glasses.
00:00:40.000 I carry my sunglasses.
00:00:42.000 What could be better than a fanny pack to carry all that? 0.99
00:00:47.000 Unclip that sucker? 1.00
00:00:48.000 Drop it in the tray? 0.97
00:00:50.000 I tend to wear my pants a little tight, and I can't put things in the pocket.
00:00:55.000 Things break when they get in the pocket.
00:00:57.000 No, I'm a huge fanny pack advocate.
00:01:00.000 I've worn them now for 20 years I've had them.
00:01:03.000 Me too.
00:01:03.000 And now you have one of ours.
00:01:05.000 Yep.
00:01:06.000 Happy to take it.
00:01:07.000 Thank you.
00:01:07.000 Thank you.
00:01:08.000 I'm honored.
00:01:09.000 It's a superior way to carry your stuff.
00:01:12.000 And I'll put it to use.
00:01:13.000 Thank you.
00:01:13.000 Well, and I also...
00:01:14.000 I've stated this.
00:01:16.000 In Minnesota, I have legit conceal and carry.
00:01:20.000 Where I can carry a weapon?
00:01:22.000 Right.
00:01:22.000 Where do you think I carry it?
00:01:24.000 In your fanny pack.
00:01:24.000 Exactly.
00:01:25.000 That's right.
00:01:25.000 Well, they make fanny packs specifically that Velcro open instantaneously.
00:01:29.000 They pop right open.
00:01:30.000 Yep.
00:01:31.000 Well, if I'm not wearing my shoulder holster, it's in my fanny pack.
00:01:35.000 Do you...
00:01:35.000 I mean, how does that work?
00:01:37.000 You're only allowed to conceal carry in Minnesota, and if you go state to state?
00:01:41.000 No, no.
00:01:41.000 Many of the states now are honoring the others.
00:01:44.000 I see.
00:01:44.000 You've got to check, though.
00:01:46.000 But generally speaking, if you have concealed, pretty much across the country now, for most part, if you have a legitimate conceal and carry in your home state, the other states will likewise honor it.
00:01:57.000 But you can't go to the airport with it.
00:01:59.000 Right.
00:01:59.000 Of course, yeah.
00:02:00.000 You can't do anything like that with it.
00:02:02.000 You'd have to be driving.
00:02:03.000 Right.
00:02:03.000 That's one of those subjects where, you know, much like the subject of your book, Marijuana Manifesto, it's one of those subjects where as soon as you bring up that subject, concealed carry, people just go, oh.
00:02:13.000 Well, it's interesting because I helped shepherd the law through when I was governor in Minnesota because I was mayor of Brooklyn Park first, and I went to my police chief to get concealed carry,
00:02:29.000 and he denied me.
00:02:30.000 I was the mayor.
00:02:32.000 How could he deny it?
00:02:33.000 Because it was up to police chiefs.
00:02:35.000 But why?
00:02:35.000 It was his grounds.
00:02:37.000 He don't like it.
00:02:38.000 He just didn't like it in general.
00:02:40.000 He didn't like it. 0.96
00:02:41.000 And so I sat back and thought, wait a minute, this is ridiculous. 0.85
00:02:44.000 A police chief shouldn't have that power. 0.75
00:02:47.000 It should be uniformly...
00:02:50.000 Yeah.
00:02:50.000 Shell issue.
00:02:51.000 If you're qualified, it shouldn't be left up to...
00:02:54.000 Because like in Minnesota, if you lived in northern Minnesota, the rural north, you could get a concealed carry like nothing.
00:03:01.000 Because the police chiefs up there didn't care.
00:03:03.000 But if you lived down in the cities, you couldn't get concealed carry if you bribed them.
00:03:09.000 That's interesting because it's a state law.
00:03:11.000 That's bizarre.
00:03:12.000 No, it wasn't.
00:03:12.000 It wasn't at the time.
00:03:13.000 It was, but it was left up to the police chiefs.
00:03:18.000 So if you went up north...
00:03:30.000 You had to go to the range and shoot a minimum of 70. You had to have a complete background check done on you, criminal background, everything.
00:03:39.000 And in the case of like you have.08 with alcohol with driving, I made conceal and carry.00.
00:03:50.000 Well, those are all good.
00:03:52.000 And if you're carrying your weapon, you are not under the influence of any alcohol, none.
00:03:58.000 Those are all excellent ideas.
00:04:00.000 And that's where we passed it.
00:04:02.000 Now, if you qualify for all that, it shall issue.
00:04:05.000 So what do you stand with...
00:04:07.000 The NRA has been...
00:04:08.000 They push back, and I understand why.
00:04:11.000 They push back against any gun regulation, anything that comes up.
00:04:15.000 Regulation in regards to background checks, in regards to anything, because they feel like ground lost is lost forever.
00:04:22.000 And it is.
00:04:23.000 And it is.
00:04:25.000 Where I feel is that...
00:04:28.000 Let me put it to you this way.
00:04:31.000 Life experiences.
00:04:33.000 I was physically in the Philippines.
00:04:36.000 Philippine Islands.
00:04:37.000 I was physically in the Philippines the day Ferdinand Marcos became a dictator.
00:04:42.000 Ooh.
00:04:43.000 I was there.
00:04:45.000 Now, I was in the U.S. military on a U.S. military base, so it didn't really affect us.
00:04:50.000 I mean, we'd go into town and all that, but then you had a soldier on every corner with a machine gun when he did it.
00:04:57.000 Well, here's what I'm getting to.
00:04:59.000 He became a dictator and gave himself the power of the President, the Congress, and the Supreme Court.
00:05:05.000 Complete dictatorship.
00:05:06.000 The first thing he did as a dictator He gave the people of the Philippines a 10 to 12 day grace period to turn in all guns, or it was the death penalty.
00:05:20.000 Now, my question to the people who oppose gun rights or are anti-guns, why would a dictator make his first thing of business to disarm the public?
00:05:33.000 Why would he make that his number one priority?
00:05:37.000 Well, it's pretty obvious.
00:05:38.000 He doesn't want an armed militia.
00:05:39.000 Exactly.
00:05:40.000 And people fail to realize our Second Amendment is there for us to be able to defend ourselves against our own government.
00:05:50.000 That's a touchy subject, though, right?
00:05:51.000 It's not there for hunting and fishing.
00:05:53.000 When they wrote the Bill of Rights, if you didn't hunt and fish, you didn't eat.
00:05:58.000 That was irrelevant.
00:05:59.000 It was there because the British used to come and occupy our homes, steal our stuff, so the British caused the Second Amendment to happen to where our forefather says, no, we're going to allow the people to be able to defend themselves against oppressive government.
00:06:19.000 So do you think that the opposition to it is just a lack of foresight, like the idea that you're living in this time where, for the most part, things are very peaceful, it's probably the most safe time ever to be alive, and that people have forgotten that it's entirely possible that tyranny could erupt at any moment?
00:06:36.000 Maybe so.
00:06:37.000 And they don't realize that maybe we, you know, you've got two movements that happened this year.
00:06:43.000 You had the Bernie Sanders movement and the Donald Trump movement originally.
00:06:47.000 They wanted the same thing.
00:06:49.000 They could never get together though because one's the far, far left, the other's the far, far right.
00:06:54.000 But what they wanted was a turnover in Washington.
00:06:58.000 They were sick of business as usual.
00:07:00.000 Let's run these bums out and let's start fresh. 1.00
00:07:03.000 That's what their two movements were about.
00:07:05.000 And the more we're seeing day to day...
00:07:08.000 I mean, I think Hillary Clinton is obviously a more rational choice than Donald Trump. 0.93
00:07:13.000 She's obviously a person who speaks better, a better representative of the people.
00:07:17.000 She's intelligent.
00:07:18.000 She's measured.
00:07:20.000 And she flip-flops constantly.
00:07:22.000 Constantly.
00:07:23.000 But she's obviously deeply, deeply in bed with the banks and special interest groups.
00:07:28.000 And this most recent WikiLeaks release of emails, it shows that she's been talking with bankers, making sure that marijuana stays illegal.
00:07:40.000 I mean, this is something that she has vowed to push back against with all of her might.
00:07:44.000 And that's a disturbing thing to see in 2016. Yeah.
00:07:49.000 You know, there's more people locked up, I don't know if people know this, but there's more people locked up for marijuana in this country than for all violent crimes combined.
00:07:57.000 And that is terrifying.
00:07:59.000 It's horrible.
00:08:00.000 It's terrifying.
00:08:01.000 It's horrible, too, when you get to, like when I did this book and went into the history, What terrifies you there is that our history books are government written with the government's view of history of what they want you to know.
00:08:19.000 Because what astounded me in doing this book was to learn that marijuana was the economic backbone of this country for its first 160 years of existence.
00:08:32.000 That if George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were alive today, they'd be raided by the DEA. They'd be doing 10 to 12 years in the federal penitentiary for being major drug dealers.
00:08:44.000 Because they both raised massive amounts of marijuana and sold it.
00:08:50.000 And there was a time that England, when we were the colonies, forced us to grow it because they needed it for their sails on their ships and the rope so that they could colonize the world with their navy.
00:09:04.000 And they forced us to grow it.
00:09:07.000 And here you have a product, and now the reason that I personally have gotten on the bandwagon, and I've made this a personal focus, is because I had completely lost my quality of life.
00:09:22.000 And marijuana's given it back.
00:09:24.000 How so?
00:09:25.000 Well, I won't say because of privacy, but someone extremely close to me developed epileptic seizure disorder and was seizing three to four times a week.
00:09:37.000 And I was taking care of these seizures three to four times a week.
00:09:41.000 If you've ever dealt with someone with a seizure disorder, it's a feeling of helplessness.
00:09:47.000 It's a feeling of pain.
00:09:48.000 You can't even imagine what that person's going through.
00:09:52.000 This is the person taking care of them.
00:09:55.000 And if it's someone you love...
00:09:58.000 The pain is unbelievable.
00:10:01.000 And so the person was put on four different, one after the other, pharmaceutical medicines for seizures, right?
00:10:08.000 None of them worked.
00:10:10.000 They all had horrible side effects.
00:10:12.000 The seizures continued for over two years.
00:10:16.000 Finally, in desperation, we went to Colorado.
00:10:21.000 The person got, quote, medical marijuana three drops under the tongue three times a day.
00:10:27.000 Amazingly, the seizures stopped.
00:10:29.000 You have a good friend whose son has the same issue.
00:10:32.000 Well, amazingly now, the person's completely weaned off all pharmaceutical.
00:10:38.000 And it's now in pill form.
00:10:40.000 The person takes a pill in the morning, a pill at night, and has been seizure-free for two and a half years.
00:10:45.000 Now, are they taking a pharmaceutical-based pill, like a Marinol?
00:10:48.000 No, they're taking real...
00:10:49.000 The THC? Well, it's the other stuff.
00:10:52.000 The OM... The other...
00:10:54.000 Not the THC, but the other...
00:10:55.000 CBD? CBD. Yeah.
00:10:57.000 The person needs the CBD. In fact, this person takes zero THC, all CBD. So it's not psychoactive whatsoever?
00:11:04.000 At all.
00:11:05.000 Which is really important to point out.
00:11:06.000 None.
00:11:07.000 Yeah.
00:11:07.000 No, even if it were, who cares?
00:11:10.000 Exactly.
00:11:10.000 You know, like my friend Tommy Chong told me.
00:11:13.000 Tommy Chong said there should be no difference between medical marijuana and recreational.
00:11:19.000 He said the entire plant's medical.
00:11:21.000 Those that are smoking it for the euphoric feeling are doing it for mental health.
00:11:26.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:11:27.000 100%.
00:11:28.000 How do you get through this life?
00:11:30.000 If you can smoke a joint in the evening and it makes you relax, what's the matter with that?
00:11:35.000 What's the difference between that or having a glass of wine or having anything else?
00:11:40.000 Well, we're just victims of the propaganda of the 1930s.
00:11:44.000 And whether people know it or not, it was all organized by William Randolph Hearst and race-based. 0.70
00:11:50.000 And William Randolph Hearst, who owned Hearst Publications, also owned a bunch of paper mills.
00:11:56.000 He owned these- Thousands of acres of timberland.
00:11:59.000 And they came out with a machine called a decorticator, whether people know this or not.
00:12:04.000 And the decorticator made it economically easy to process hemp fiber.
00:12:09.000 So they came out with this in the 1930s, and the popular science magazine at the time had a cover that said, Hemp, the new billion-dollar crop, based entirely on this new invention, the decorticator.
00:12:21.000 Because before that, they used to use slavery.
00:12:23.000 Then when the cotton gin came around, they used cotton instead of hemp because it was easier to do.
00:12:27.000 You know, you're enjoyable because I don't have to say all this.
00:12:31.000 Well, it's one of those things that I've just been telling people forever. 0.94
00:12:34.000 It drives me fucking crazy. 0.98
00:12:35.000 You've done your homework. 0.99
00:12:36.000 It's wonderful.
00:12:37.000 Because usually, I go on a show, I have to do the explanation of all that.
00:12:42.000 But with you, I don't have to.
00:12:43.000 You know it already. 1.00
00:12:44.000 Well, William Randolph Hearst was a real piece of shit. 1.00
00:12:46.000 Exactly. 1.00
00:12:47.000 He really was.
00:12:48.000 And he was in charge not just of these paper mills, but he was in charge of disseminating the news.
00:12:53.000 I mean, this guy ran Hearst Publications.
00:12:56.000 Yeah, 26 newspapers in an all-white-run country. 1.00
00:12:59.000 So they used marijuana. 1.00
00:13:02.000 To race bait, to blame the devil weed that blacks smoked, and then they'll rape your daughters and your children, and your wives and all that, and lazy Mexicans. 1.00
00:13:14.000 That's why they lay around, and these brown-skinned people, these Mexicans, they're all smoking pot. 1.00
00:13:19.000 You live in Mexico. 0.97
00:13:21.000 About four months out of the year. 1.00
00:13:23.000 Who the fuck is less lazy than Mexicans? 1.00
00:13:26.000 They're the hardest damn workers I've ever met. 1.00
00:13:29.000 Exactly. 1.00
00:13:29.000 It is one of the dumbest stereotypes of all time. 1.00
00:13:32.000 Check out Mexican gardeners. 1.00
00:13:34.000 Oh, I'll tell you this.
00:13:35.000 I live off the grid.
00:13:37.000 I live where there's no electricity.
00:13:41.000 An hour from pavement and an hour from electricity, a neighbor built a home down there, and I had nothing to do, so I'd go watch it every day.
00:13:49.000 That's how I lived down there.
00:13:51.000 And I watched these Mexican workers build a home out of cement from scratch. 0.99
00:13:58.000 They didn't have electronic cement mixers.
00:14:01.000 They mixed every bit of that cement by hand.
00:14:05.000 And one day I'm watching, you know, the rebar?
00:14:08.000 Two guys had to bend rebar by hand, jerking on it with a pipe to put it at a 45 or 90 degree angle, whatever it was.
00:14:18.000 That's up to code.
00:14:19.000 Well, the point was, I started laughing and I said, you know, if you brought the American construction worker down here, he'd quit in a day.
00:14:30.000 He would quit in a day.
00:14:32.000 Because all they do is deliver raw materials.
00:14:35.000 And these Mexican builders would build cement houses out of nothing. 0.99
00:14:42.000 Out of raw material without a bit of electricity.
00:14:46.000 Yeah, I'm a big fan of Mexico.
00:14:47.000 Oh, I love it down there.
00:14:49.000 I love the food.
00:14:50.000 I love the people.
00:14:51.000 I love the life I lead down there because it's the exact opposite of here.
00:14:56.000 Down there I live off the grid and I only pay attention to what I can see.
00:15:00.000 That's nice.
00:15:01.000 That's relaxing.
00:15:02.000 It's called flushing your brain out.
00:15:04.000 My family lives down there.
00:15:05.000 My parents do.
00:15:06.000 Yeah, they decided to chill out down in Mexico.
00:15:09.000 Do the retirement thing.
00:15:10.000 I'll tell you what else is great.
00:15:12.000 The taxes.
00:15:14.000 And we always laugh at the Mexican government. 1.00
00:15:16.000 Oh, they're corrupt. 1.00
00:15:18.000 They're this and that. 0.91
00:15:19.000 On property taxes, they are way superior to us.
00:15:23.000 You know what works down there?
00:15:24.000 No.
00:15:25.000 Here...
00:15:26.000 At least in Minnesota, which is pretty much universal, if you buy a home and you're a good citizen and you fix the home up and improve it, how do they reward you?
00:15:38.000 You pay more.
00:15:40.000 Your taxes go up for being a good citizen.
00:15:43.000 So using their analogy, you should buy the house, let it become the shithole on the block, and they'll reward you.
00:15:50.000 You'll pay less. 0.79
00:15:52.000 Here's how it works in Mexico.
00:15:54.000 Mexico, your taxes are due in March.
00:15:56.000 Property taxes, if I pay them in January early, they knock off 20%.
00:16:01.000 If I pay them in February, they knock off 10%.
00:16:05.000 I go down January 28th.
00:16:09.000 February's a short month.
00:16:10.000 So in 30 days, I get 20% on my money legally.
00:16:16.000 Tell me where I can do that.
00:16:18.000 That's pretty beautiful.
00:16:19.000 20% in 30 days?
00:16:21.000 Now, granted, it's only a couple hundred bucks because property taxes are cheap there anyway.
00:16:28.000 But that's a couple tanks of gas for my pickup truck.
00:16:32.000 Do you feel weird living down there?
00:16:33.000 Not a bit.
00:16:34.000 Not at all?
00:16:35.000 No.
00:16:35.000 No?
00:16:35.000 I don't even know the language.
00:16:37.000 You don't know Spanish?
00:16:38.000 Nah.
00:16:39.000 Why don't you know it?
00:16:40.000 Because I've never taken time to bother.
00:16:44.000 What do you do when you're down there?
00:16:45.000 You just barely talk to people?
00:16:47.000 Well, between what they know of English and what I know of Spanish and pantomiming, we figure it out. 0.97
00:16:53.000 Wow.
00:16:53.000 It's like, okay, all you gotta know to survive in Mexico is one word.
00:16:59.000 What's that?
00:17:00.000 Hola?
00:17:01.000 No, not hola.
00:17:02.000 That's hi.
00:17:03.000 See, I know a little bit now.
00:17:05.000 No, no.
00:17:06.000 You look at any Mexican, smile at them and say cerveza. 1.00
00:17:10.000 Oh.
00:17:11.000 And you'll get a smile back, cerveza, see?
00:17:13.000 Oh, so you're just getting hammered all the time.
00:17:15.000 No, you just say beer to them.
00:17:17.000 They love to drink beer.
00:17:18.000 So that'll smooth out any situation.
00:17:20.000 Just smile and say cerveza.
00:17:22.000 Most people don't know also that almost all drugs are decriminalized in Mexico in response to the drug laws and the drug war.
00:17:30.000 Starting to get there.
00:17:31.000 The Supreme Court ruled on four people, but only those four people can grow and have pot. 0.98
00:17:37.000 It takes three more cases before it becomes the law.
00:17:39.000 Yeah, I don't think it's legal, but it's decriminalized.
00:17:42.000 Like mushrooms are decriminalized.
00:17:44.000 It's getting there.
00:17:44.000 President Fox, who was my friend, he came out and said he wants it decriminalized.
00:17:49.000 He said, I'm a rancher farmer.
00:17:50.000 I want to grow it.
00:17:51.000 You're friends with the president?
00:17:52.000 Yeah.
00:17:52.000 That's pretty dope.
00:17:53.000 I knew both of them.
00:17:54.000 Fox and who was before him?
00:17:57.000 Well, remember, I was a governor.
00:17:59.000 Yes.
00:17:59.000 I went there on a trade mission.
00:18:02.000 Fox and I actually established a trade thing in Minnesota via Mexico.
00:18:08.000 Because when I was down in Mexico, they took me to the Corona Brewery.
00:18:14.000 And when they took me there were pallets of corn all from Minnesota.
00:18:20.000 They send their corn from Minnesota to make Corona beer.
00:18:23.000 I was going to say, I would assume that Corona is such a weak beer, I would assume it's probably grown in America.
00:18:28.000 No, it's corn, but it's United States corn.
00:18:31.000 It's Minnesota corn that makes Corona.
00:18:35.000 Yeah, gluten-free. 0.99
00:18:36.000 Like, if you're one of those gluten-free fucks, you can have a Corona. 0.98
00:18:40.000 It's one of a few beers. 0.99
00:18:41.000 I think Heineken, too.
00:18:42.000 Some rice-based beers.
00:18:43.000 I think Budweiser, actually.
00:18:44.000 Yeah.
00:18:45.000 Believe it or not.
00:18:45.000 Corona, though, they get all their corn from Minnesota.
00:18:48.000 So you're just cerveza-ing it up back there?
00:18:50.000 No, I don't even drink.
00:18:51.000 You don't drink?
00:18:53.000 No.
00:18:53.000 So why do you say cerveza?
00:18:55.000 For your friends?
00:18:56.000 Well, because that means beer in Mexican, and not all the Mexicans love beer.
00:19:00.000 Oh, I see.
00:19:01.000 That's why if you just smile and say cerveza, Adam, you'll get a smile.
00:19:05.000 Cerveza, see?
00:19:06.000 Oh, okay.
00:19:07.000 So you're not asking for one.
00:19:09.000 No, I'm not asking for one.
00:19:10.000 I'm just doing it to be friendly.
00:19:12.000 No, I don't drink.
00:19:14.000 So what do you do down there?
00:19:15.000 I wake up in the morning with nothing to do, and when I go to bed at night, I'm half done.
00:19:21.000 You can tell I've been asked that answer.
00:19:23.000 I can tell.
00:19:24.000 Yeah, I was going to say that.
00:19:25.000 No, I stole that from a friend down there.
00:19:27.000 He said it one day, and I said, can I use that when I do an interview?
00:19:30.000 He said, feel free.
00:19:32.000 So I wake up in the morning with nothing to do, and by the time I go to bed at night, I'm half done.
00:19:37.000 Well, you obviously wrote this book, so you're doing something.
00:19:40.000 Yeah.
00:19:41.000 So why do you write books?
00:19:42.000 You just get bored?
00:19:43.000 I know I write them if I'm motivated.
00:19:45.000 So you got motivated because of this epileptic seizure issue?
00:19:48.000 I don't know if you've ever paid attention to this, but the Navy SEALs had an issue with epileptic seizures as well from the rebreathers.
00:19:56.000 Apparently, there's something to do with getting the...
00:19:59.000 I found out about it because I started...
00:20:02.000 Eating a ketogenic diet, getting my body to process fats instead of carbohydrates.
00:20:07.000 And one of the reasons that the SEALs are looking into this is because it prevents seizures in people that use those rebreathers as opposed to, you know, the ones that don't make bubbles.
00:20:18.000 Yeah, I used them all the time, the Emerson rig.
00:20:20.000 I dove them.
00:20:21.000 That was the majority of the thing I dove when I was in there, and I never had a seizure.
00:20:25.000 Well, it's not...
00:20:25.000 I never heard of anyone having a seizure.
00:20:27.000 Yeah, some people have them apparently.
00:20:29.000 I don't know how common it is.
00:20:30.000 I never heard of it the entire six years I was in.
00:20:33.000 Well, it's also epilepsy in children.
00:20:35.000 They've used ketogenic diets to control epilepsy in children.
00:20:39.000 But again, like you were saying, marijuana is another big factor in that.
00:20:42.000 I would think this.
00:20:43.000 I would think if anyone had any type of seizure disorder, that would disqualify them from the SEALs.
00:20:49.000 Yeah, I don't think it's a disorder.
00:20:50.000 I think it's a direct result of using the rebreathers.
00:20:53.000 I've used them.
00:20:53.000 It's not common.
00:20:54.000 Yeah.
00:20:55.000 But I would think anyone that had that result from a rebreather would be washed out.
00:20:59.000 Yeah, you'd think, right?
00:21:00.000 Because you couldn't take the risk that the person would have to do that job, and could you have a seizure while attempting to do it?
00:21:07.000 Yeah, I don't know when the seizures occur.
00:21:09.000 I don't know if they've isolated it, but I do know.
00:21:11.000 This is the first I've ever heard of it.
00:21:13.000 Dr. Dom D'Agostino, who is one of the premier experts on ketogenic diets and nutritional ketones, he's spoken about this, and I've read some other articles about it as well, especially with kids with epilepsy.
00:21:29.000 You've got to remember, when I was in the teams, it was a whole different mindset.
00:21:33.000 Well, it wasn't even called the SEALS back then, right?
00:21:35.000 You were called...
00:21:36.000 Well, you had the SEALS, too.
00:21:38.000 We were underwater demolition teams and the SEALS, both.
00:21:41.000 It's called UDT SEAL, BUDS. BUDS stands for Basic Underwater Demolition Slash SEAL. What happened was, we were the frogmen, and in 1962, John F. Kennedy had enough...
00:21:59.000 I think?
00:22:13.000 From that point, it was the Marines.
00:22:15.000 It required President Kennedy to sign an executive order that allowed the Navy to go past the high water mark, which he then created.
00:22:24.000 Kennedy came out of the Navy, so he took the Navy frogman and put us on land.
00:22:29.000 Oh, that's interesting.
00:22:30.000 And they renamed us then SEALs, which the acronym SEAL stands for Sea Air Land Teams.
00:22:38.000 Which means we come from the sea, we come from the air, and we come from the land, any of the three.
00:22:46.000 That's interesting.
00:22:47.000 That's where it all came from.
00:22:49.000 Kennedy formed a seal.
00:22:51.000 He took the frogman out of the water and put him on.
00:22:54.000 The Marines were angry because they felt that the land was theirs and the Navy shouldn't be there.
00:23:00.000 That's always been weird to me, the rivalry between military units.
00:23:05.000 You would think that the United States military is one big team.
00:23:08.000 No, because if you're not in a common war, then you've got to fight each other.
00:23:12.000 Isn't that bizarre?
00:23:12.000 Yeah.
00:23:13.000 People are fucking crazy. 1.00
00:23:14.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:23:15.000 Why are we so crazy?
00:23:16.000 When you're in the military, it's just your mindset.
00:23:19.000 Yeah.
00:23:20.000 You know, it's your mindset and you get bored.
00:23:22.000 So if you haven't got an enemy to fight, then you fight the other in the bars, you fight the other services.
00:23:29.000 We used to do it all the time.
00:23:30.000 We get in trouble all the time.
00:23:33.000 You know? 1.00
00:23:34.000 But doesn't that seem stupid? 1.00
00:23:36.000 I mean, isn't it one big team? 1.00
00:23:38.000 War's stupid. 1.00
00:23:39.000 It is kind of stupid. 1.00
00:23:40.000 So why wouldn't there be stupidity along with war? 1.00
00:23:45.000 You're dealing with people with major egos, high testosterone rate, and they're warriors. 1.00
00:23:52.000 You know, when you play that game, that's a game for real.
00:23:55.000 Many times you don't come back and play again.
00:23:58.000 It ain't like football.
00:24:00.000 It ain't like any of these sporting events.
00:24:02.000 It's a game of finality.
00:24:08.000 Did it feel like a game when you were in the military?
00:24:10.000 No, it was my job.
00:24:13.000 Well, again, as a pro athlete, that's your job, too.
00:24:17.000 It feels like a job.
00:24:18.000 It's your job.
00:24:20.000 It's your job, but it's also your life.
00:24:22.000 I mean, it's not like you're punching in a jiffy lube.
00:24:25.000 But you volunteer.
00:24:26.000 To go into the budge, you have to volunteer.
00:24:29.000 It's a volunteer unit.
00:24:31.000 You can volunteer in, you can volunteer out.
00:24:34.000 It's whether you want to do the job or not. 0.99
00:24:37.000 When all that shit went down with Chris Kyle, and when he said that he punched you in a bar, you sued the family... 0.99
00:24:46.000 No, I didn't. 1.00
00:24:47.000 I didn't sue the family.
00:24:48.000 You sued him, rather.
00:24:49.000 Excuse me.
00:24:49.000 I sued him, and he died, and then the suit automatically goes to his estate.
00:24:54.000 That's the way the legal works.
00:24:56.000 She was never in any jeopardy, because in any writer's contract, you have insurance from the publisher.
00:25:03.000 So it's me again.
00:25:04.000 They portrayed it, and I became the villain, going after the widow and the kids. 0.98
00:25:09.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:25:10.000 That's the biggest lie.
00:25:11.000 It was a big insurance company that's covering the whole thing.
00:25:14.000 They're not out a penny, and they won't be out a penny.
00:25:18.000 But you had to explain that, I'm sure, over and over again in interviews.
00:25:20.000 No, I couldn't explain it, but the trial got overturned because the insurance came out.
00:25:26.000 So it's okay to lie in court, but if the truth comes out, you can get a new trial.
00:25:30.000 The insurance came out, what does that mean?
00:25:32.000 In court.
00:25:32.000 You're not allowed to say that insurance is paying for everything, even though it's the truth.
00:25:38.000 You're not allowed to say that in court.
00:25:40.000 So what happens when you say it in court?
00:25:41.000 Well, it came out and the judge allowed it to a limited degree, and then the appeals court ruled that the judge shouldn't have did that.
00:25:49.000 Because having the judge say that, it sways people to be more inclined to rule against the insurance company.
00:25:56.000 Because the insurance company is a big conglomerate.
00:25:58.000 Even though the other side is doing what's called poor-mouthing, they're getting up and saying it's taxing them financially and lying.
00:26:06.000 The truth is, insurance is paying for all of it.
00:26:09.000 Don't get up and lie about it.
00:26:11.000 So the other side was saying this is going to devastate our family, but in reality they wouldn't.
00:26:16.000 Oh yeah, trying to influence the...
00:26:17.000 And in this case, let me state this.
00:26:21.000 How overwhelming must the evidence have been for the jury to go against the grieving widow of the dead war veteran?
00:26:31.000 Yeah, it must be pretty overwhelming.
00:26:34.000 The evidence was overwhelming.
00:26:36.000 The jury came for me.
00:26:39.000 They said he was lied, this didn't happen, and we're a warning.
00:26:43.000 Why do you think he did that?
00:26:44.000 Did you know him?
00:26:45.000 No.
00:26:46.000 You didn't know him?
00:26:47.000 No.
00:26:48.000 I didn't know even who he was until the thing happened.
00:26:51.000 We were there on the same night.
00:26:53.000 We were at McPee's because I was there for a graduation of Class 258. I'm Class 58. It's traditionally every hundred classes.
00:27:02.000 If you can, you come back to the graduation.
00:27:06.000 So Class 258 was graduating the next day on Friday.
00:27:10.000 I came out along with my teammates from Class 58 to attend that graduation the next day.
00:27:17.000 So why would I say bad things about the SEALs if I'm there?
00:27:21.000 That's what he said he punched me for.
00:27:24.000 For people who don't know what we're talking about, because probably a lot of people listening to this have no idea what we're talking about.
00:27:29.000 So let me just fill them in real quick.
00:27:31.000 The book, American Sniper, the movie with Bradley Cooper...
00:27:36.000 It was a giant hit movie, very patriotic movie about a guy who was one of the most successful snipers in U.S. history, right?
00:27:43.000 Very successful warrior, Navy SEAL, war hero, everybody loved him.
00:27:49.000 Then he goes on the Opie and Anthony show, and he says that he punched you out in a bar. 0.97
00:27:55.000 Well, there's a chapter in his book where he writes that he called me Scruff Face, and he said that I said SEALs deserve to die.
00:28:04.000 In other words, he accused me of treason.
00:28:07.000 Yes.
00:28:07.000 And I was out there for a SEAL graduation.
00:28:11.000 If I felt that way about my old unit, why would I be attending?
00:28:16.000 So he wrote in the book, he gave you a nickname in the book.
00:28:19.000 Scruff.
00:28:19.000 Whoever, I mean, he might not have even, when he wrote it in the book, he might not have even thought that he was going to give that to you.
00:28:25.000 I mean, who knows what was going on?
00:28:26.000 My thought was, at the time, I was trying to wrap my head around why anybody would do this.
00:28:31.000 And I was thinking, well, maybe he's just trying to generate as much controversy as possible, to generate as much income as possible from his book, and it just got out of hand.
00:28:40.000 I don't, I mean, I was trying to put it together.
00:28:42.000 Because there was a couple other fabrications, right?
00:28:44.000 There was a shooting at a gas station that never took place.
00:28:49.000 And he said that during Katrina he was on the dome and shot people who were looting.
00:28:54.000 Yeah, that was disturbing because that's murder.
00:28:57.000 Yeah, and he also lied about his medals.
00:29:00.000 The Navy had to come out and correct.
00:29:01.000 He said he had two silver stars and five bronze stars.
00:29:05.000 He had one silver star and three bronze stars.
00:29:08.000 So he lied about three medals.
00:29:11.000 Well, one in three is impressive enough.
00:29:13.000 Exactly.
00:29:14.000 Exactly.
00:29:15.000 And then they try to give him an excuse saying, well, he was confused.
00:29:19.000 No, you're not.
00:29:20.000 When you get a medal like that, it's like graduating from college.
00:29:24.000 They give you a certificate that puts on your wall.
00:29:27.000 If you win the Bronze Star or the Silver Star.
00:29:30.000 But as a SEAL yourself...
00:29:33.000 He threw me under the bus.
00:29:35.000 What does that feel like to you?
00:29:37.000 Treason!
00:29:38.000 Obviously, this is something that's very near and dear to your heart.
00:29:41.000 Hugely.
00:29:42.000 He has made it to where I can't go to a reunion anymore.
00:29:46.000 There were 170 SEALs that wanted me kicked out of the UDT SEAL Association over his lie.
00:29:55.000 And the lies of his buddies who came up and tried to testify for him.
00:29:59.000 It got embarrassing in the trial.
00:30:02.000 His buddies said that it actually happened?
00:30:03.000 No, they couldn't say it, but they tried to say everything else to make it seem like it did.
00:30:08.000 Well, how the hell did they do that?
00:30:09.000 Well, because they dance around the questions and the lawyering, and well, you have to piece together.
00:30:14.000 There wasn't one witness that saw me get hit, and there wasn't one witness that heard me say anything he attributed to me.
00:30:22.000 And weren't you visible the next day?
00:30:24.000 Yeah, we had pictures.
00:30:25.000 No punch.
00:30:27.000 We had photographs that night.
00:30:28.000 Them posing for pictures with me.
00:30:31.000 If I had said all this stuff, why would they have take pictures with me? 0.99
00:30:35.000 What does that feel like when someone just fucking lies? 1.00
00:30:39.000 Horrible. 1.00
00:30:41.000 And lies about a terrible, terrible thing.
00:30:43.000 And what's worse about it is the media jumps on it and convicts me of it, because why?
00:30:48.000 They broke the story when I went off the grid in Mexico where I couldn't even come back.
00:30:54.000 So they broke the story.
00:30:55.000 Do you think they knew that you were off the grid?
00:30:58.000 I'm starting to believe it.
00:30:59.000 But didn't it happen on the Opie and Anthony show?
00:31:02.000 Yeah.
00:31:03.000 But I don't think that was planned, because I know those guys.
00:31:06.000 Yeah, but was the whole...
00:31:08.000 Well, they also did it.
00:31:10.000 He did it that day on O'Reilly later that afternoon.
00:31:12.000 So once he named you, he just started naming you everywhere.
00:31:15.000 Oh yeah, then it went viral.
00:31:17.000 It went viral.
00:31:18.000 And everyone convicted me because they said, well, this Iraq war veteran wouldn't lie.
00:31:25.000 Really?
00:31:26.000 I just, I watched...
00:31:28.000 Let me tell you, I'll bet it's destroyed my life.
00:31:32.000 I can't get hired for a job.
00:31:34.000 During my trial, after it was over, guess what happened?
00:31:38.000 34 major media conglomerates entered the trial with that amacy, they call it or whatever, of influencing the Court of Appeals to overturn my verdict, and they did it.
00:31:52.000 34 media conglomerates, the New York Times, the Washington Post, all of these media conglomerates appealed to the Court of Appeals to overturn my verdict.
00:32:03.000 But why?
00:32:04.000 Because I won on something called unjust enrichment.
00:32:09.000 They want the ability to be able to defame you and profit from it.
00:32:13.000 In other words, I'll put it, what these judges accommodated them with, there's going to be another trial.
00:32:19.000 They've ordered a new trial.
00:32:21.000 So I've got to go through it again.
00:32:23.000 But I'm glad, because when it comes out two juries and two judges find Kyle guilty, who's not going to believe it then?
00:32:32.000 But the point is, they've ordered a new trial.
00:32:36.000 They threw out the whole verdict of the jury, the federal judge who wrote substantial evidence supporting the jury's verdict.
00:32:45.000 They did all that, and they violated their own rules.
00:32:49.000 A 76-year rule.
00:32:52.000 Here's what it states.
00:32:54.000 Because it happened during summation, where the judge allowed it in, my attorney.
00:32:59.000 It ended up four questions in an 11-day trial and a half a page of a 20-page summary, and it was overturned on that.
00:33:08.000 And they overturned it because they felt it was undue influence on the jury, that they found out that insurance was paying for everything.
00:33:16.000 That's it?
00:33:17.000 Is that one factor?
00:33:18.000 Well, and here's the deal.
00:33:20.000 If the rules state that if in final argument they say something, you must object.
00:33:28.000 You must object so the trial lawyer has a chance to rule during final argument, and the jury has a chance to hear the ruling.
00:33:36.000 They never objected.
00:33:38.000 So they must object to undue influence because of the fact that it was...
00:33:41.000 Wait, they never objected.
00:33:45.000 The jury was dismissed at 11.58.
00:33:48.000 At 12.02 they then objected.
00:33:51.000 The judge overruled them and we were done with it.
00:33:54.000 Well, these two judges, Riley and Shepard, have now overturned the case on something that was never objected to in trial.
00:34:03.000 They objected to it, so they overturned the jury and the federal judge.
00:34:08.000 Then, they also overturned my unjust enrichment claim because the media didn't want it.
00:34:14.000 What they've allowed now is the media can defame you and profit from it, and you can't get any of their profits.
00:34:23.000 No matter how they harm you.
00:34:26.000 Well, that's the equivalent of if you went out and robbed the bank, and they caught you, and they sentenced you to two years in prison for the bank robbery, but when you get out, you get to keep all the money you took.
00:34:39.000 So that's in this particular case.
00:34:41.000 Yes.
00:34:41.000 You're talking about this particular case.
00:34:43.000 Which will now be the standard.
00:34:44.000 Because they've ruled that way.
00:34:46.000 They now make it to where you can profit from wrongdoing.
00:34:50.000 Because of this case.
00:34:52.000 Yep.
00:34:54.000 This is such a touchy case because it's so indicative of the complications of people.
00:34:59.000 Because people are not simple.
00:35:01.000 It's really not touchy.
00:35:03.000 He lied.
00:35:04.000 He did lie.
00:35:05.000 And he harmed me with his lie.
00:35:07.000 But that's not what I'm saying.
00:35:09.000 What's complicated is he's also the subject of this gigantic movie and this symbol of patriotism.
00:35:16.000 Where so many people will say, Chris Kyle, rest in peace.
00:35:20.000 So many people would have...
00:35:21.000 I saw a cloud that was...
00:35:24.000 Someone took a photo in the cloud.
00:35:26.000 That's not a cloud.
00:35:26.000 That's Chris Kyle.
00:35:28.000 It looked like a sniper.
00:35:30.000 It's Chris Kyle guarding the skies.
00:35:34.000 It became a meme.
00:35:35.000 He became this thing where it wasn't...
00:35:39.000 He was a representative of the brave military.
00:35:42.000 The portrayal...
00:35:43.000 But hold on a second.
00:35:44.000 The betrayal that Bradley Cooper played in that movie, that movie was so simplistic and so...
00:35:50.000 It was like right out of a Joseph Campbell movie.
00:35:54.000 Okay, let me add this.
00:35:54.000 The perfect hero's journey.
00:35:56.000 Had I not gone to court, that would have been in the movie.
00:36:00.000 Really?
00:36:01.000 I had to stop it.
00:36:02.000 They were going to have him punch you in the movie?
00:36:04.000 Well, certainly it's in the book. 1.00
00:36:06.000 Holy shit. 0.99
00:36:07.000 And I had to stop it. 1.00
00:36:08.000 Holy shit. 0.99
00:36:09.000 No, when we were in trial, you know what they tried to do to diminish my role? 0.94
00:36:14.000 Because when they knew they were going to lose, their lawyer got me on the stand and he said, Mr. Ventura, he said, would it surprise you to know that the first draft of the movie doesn't have you in it?
00:36:29.000 Trying to prove how insignificant my part of the book...
00:36:32.000 Why would you say the first draft of the movie? 0.96
00:36:34.000 That doesn't mean shit. 0.92
00:36:35.000 Well, the first draft of the script. 0.97
00:36:37.000 Yeah, but so what?
00:36:37.000 If the second draft has you in it...
00:36:39.000 Hold it, though.
00:36:40.000 Here's my response.
00:36:41.000 I said, no, that wouldn't surprise me at all.
00:36:44.000 Because I said, we've sent two letters to Warner Brothers warning them that if I'm indeed in this movie, they will be next to be sued.
00:36:53.000 So we put Warner Brothers on notice that if this chapter is included in your movie, you will get sued next.
00:37:01.000 And you know people out here, they don't want to step into a lawsuit.
00:37:04.000 That's the only thing that kept me from being punched out in that movie and portrayed me as a villain in that frickin' movie.
00:37:13.000 Not just a villain, way more than a villain, right? 0.97
00:37:16.000 I mean, that is insane.
00:37:17.000 It is insane because what's crazy to me and what's complicated about this is that there are thousands and thousands of brave men and women who have risked their lives, sacrificed their lives, and this guy becomes this This figurehead.
00:37:33.000 Wait, wait, wait.
00:37:34.000 He rises above.
00:37:35.000 Including me.
00:37:37.000 Including you.
00:37:38.000 Yes.
00:37:38.000 Very important.
00:37:39.000 But he rises above all this and becomes this...
00:37:43.000 Icon figure.
00:37:44.000 Yes.
00:37:44.000 This iconic figure that you can't tarnish.
00:37:47.000 And then truth is irrelevant and they're willing to sacrifice people like you and the truth just for this overall image of patriotism.
00:37:55.000 Yep.
00:37:56.000 It's crazy.
00:37:57.000 What a crazy place that must have been for you.
00:38:00.000 Still is.
00:38:01.000 In fact, do you know that this person that I told you about with the seizures, the seizure disorder started right after this.
00:38:11.000 I'm sure.
00:38:12.000 The stress must have been overwhelming.
00:38:14.000 Doctors have said seizures can be caused by stress.
00:38:18.000 So I hold Chris Kyle directly responsible for the seizure disorder also that I had to face, that marijuana cured.
00:38:26.000 Did you ever communicate with him face to face?
00:38:28.000 Only once.
00:38:30.000 When we first in June, I didn't even know who he was.
00:38:33.000 And then in June of 2012, after the book came out in January, we had a settlement conference where he kept saying that if he met me in person, we could work it out.
00:38:44.000 So at this conference, we agreed I would meet him in a room, the judge in the corner, and just he and I, like you and I, are here.
00:38:52.000 We sat down in the room, and I looked him right in the face.
00:38:55.000 And I said, why did you do this?
00:38:57.000 You never punched me.
00:38:58.000 He looked me back and said, yes, I did.
00:39:00.000 I turned to the judge.
00:39:02.000 I said, there's no need to go any farther.
00:39:05.000 I said, if he's not going to admit it didn't happen face-to-face, one-on-one, and I challenge his courage.
00:39:12.000 Because, yeah, he had the courage to go to Iraq, he had the courage to shoot all these people, but he didn't have the courage to tell the truth, did he? 0.89
00:39:21.000 What a bizarre moment that must have been, sitting across from that guy.
00:39:25.000 Yeah, and he looked at me and said, yes, I did.
00:39:27.000 What was the look in his face?
00:39:29.000 I believe, and I'm not a doctor, but I've done some studying. 0.97
00:39:33.000 I think he was a sociopath.
00:39:36.000 Sociopaths can lie and hold a straight face, and they lie to the point where they believe their own lie. 0.70
00:39:42.000 How bizarre is it that this iconic figure...
00:39:46.000 Well, and then look how he died.
00:39:48.000 Yeah.
00:39:49.000 Well, he had no training in post-traumatic stress.
00:39:52.000 He's not medical, and yet he's taking this Marine to a gun range who's suffering from post-traumatic stress.
00:40:01.000 Wouldn't common sense tell you not to put a weapon in the hands of someone suffering?
00:40:08.000 From post-traumatic stress?
00:40:09.000 Well, I think every guy suffering from post-traumatic stress is different, right?
00:40:12.000 Well, what do they tell him?
00:40:13.000 To man up?
00:40:15.000 Why would you put a weapon in somebody's hands who's suffering from post-traumatic stress when you have no medical training?
00:40:24.000 How is Kyle qualified to treat this guy?
00:40:28.000 Well, I would assume it would be based on his own post-traumatic stress.
00:40:31.000 But he didn't have it.
00:40:32.000 He didn't have it at all.
00:40:34.000 No?
00:40:34.000 He was never treated for it.
00:40:36.000 He may have had it.
00:40:38.000 Maybe that's why he did what he did.
00:40:40.000 I don't know.
00:40:42.000 God, what a crazy place to be.
00:40:44.000 But for me, it's like I've been accused of something I didn't do.
00:40:48.000 I don't even know the guy.
00:40:50.000 I may have met him that night briefly.
00:40:52.000 Well, let me tell you something.
00:40:53.000 I obviously didn't get one millionth of a percent of the amount of hate that you did.
00:41:01.000 I got read off September 11th of this year.
00:41:06.000 I was in New York doing this book tour and I got read off in a hotel lobby over this.
00:41:12.000 What does that mean, read off?
00:41:13.000 A guy yelled and screamed at me in front of the entire hotel lobby.
00:41:18.000 Jesus Christ.
00:41:19.000 That's what I live with now.
00:41:21.000 And I haven't been damaged.
00:41:23.000 My reputation isn't damaged over something I never did.
00:41:28.000 What I was going to say is, I obviously haven't experienced one one millionth of the hate that you have, but I read, we read this article on the air.
00:41:36.000 We were trying to figure out what happened when your case was going on.
00:41:39.000 And so we read this article that was, I don't know, it was in the New York Times?
00:41:43.000 See if you can find the article detailing all the various lies.
00:41:48.000 Oh, that's the New Yorker magazine.
00:41:50.000 The New Yorker, yeah.
00:41:51.000 They did an investigation of him.
00:41:53.000 But it's stunning. 0.99
00:41:54.000 And just reading that, the fucking amount of hate tweets and Facebook tweets and you fucking coward and you this and you that, I'm like, hey, I didn't write it, okay? 1.00
00:42:04.000 I'm just trying to figure out what the fuck is going on. 0.99
00:42:06.000 And if someone put something like that in The New Yorker with verified claims, I mean, everything's verified. 0.99
00:42:12.000 Like what they were saying that he said and what actually had happened was all verified.
00:42:15.000 It's very, very, very confusing that...
00:42:18.000 Somehow or another, this slipped through the cracks and that this became their iconic figure.
00:42:22.000 Again, not discounting, along with you, the thousands and thousands of patriotic Americans that risked their lives.
00:42:30.000 And he is, too.
00:42:31.000 Nobody's denying he wasn't a great sniper.
00:42:35.000 Nobody's denying he didn't do his job.
00:42:37.000 I've never denied that from him or said that about him.
00:42:41.000 He may be the best.
00:42:42.000 I don't know.
00:42:43.000 I'll still put my money on Carlos Hathcock, though, the Marine.
00:42:47.000 As being the best sniper.
00:42:49.000 Well, especially now.
00:42:50.000 But he did his job and he did it well, but why did he have to take an old veteran?
00:42:56.000 That would be like me taking a World War II guy and throwing him under the bus. 1.00
00:43:00.000 Why the fuck would he choose you? 1.00
00:43:02.000 Because I had fame. 1.00
00:43:04.000 I think he got jealous that night we were at the bar because everyone crowded around and wanted their picture with me.
00:43:13.000 I don't know.
00:43:14.000 He'll never be around to answer it.
00:43:16.000 I'd love to know why he picked out me.
00:43:19.000 I think because I'm probably the most famous, maybe, or I developed to be the most famous SEAL other than Dick Marcinko, the rogue warrior.
00:43:28.000 Great books.
00:43:29.000 I've read his books.
00:43:30.000 He's a friend of mine, Richard Marcinko.
00:43:32.000 When you sat down and you're talking to this guy, how much time were you actually in the room with him?
00:43:37.000 Oh, a couple of minutes was all.
00:43:39.000 The minute he looked me in the eye and said, I sure did hit you.
00:43:43.000 I turned to the judge and said, we got nothing more to talk about.
00:43:47.000 You didn't want to keep going?
00:43:48.000 I even offered him.
00:43:50.000 I said, if you will walk out to me with the press and admit you fabricated this story, I will forgive you in front of the press and we will go on with our lives.
00:44:02.000 He would not do it.
00:44:04.000 He did not have the courage to stand up and tell the truth.
00:44:08.000 It takes a lot of courage to admit you lied about something that massive.
00:44:11.000 I mean, this isn't lying about speeding, right?
00:44:14.000 This is a massive, massive lie.
00:44:16.000 But what about ruining my life?
00:44:18.000 Ruining my reputation?
00:44:19.000 Ruining my wife's life?
00:44:22.000 I lost my conspiracy theory show because of it.
00:44:25.000 Really?
00:44:26.000 I can't get hired.
00:44:27.000 Right now, I can't get a job.
00:44:30.000 My last job was on the internet at Aura TV because the owners, Carlos Slim from Mexico, from that, you know who I'm hired?
00:44:38.000 You know who I work for now?
00:44:39.000 The Russians. 0.71
00:44:41.000 Russian TV RTs, the only people that'll hire me because 34 media conglomerates entered this case.
00:44:49.000 To overturn me.
00:44:50.000 You think they're going to hire me?
00:44:51.000 Now explain that.
00:44:52.000 Why do you think they did that?
00:44:53.000 Do you think they did that because if they overturn your case, if they can somehow or another...
00:44:59.000 Because they don't want to have to fact check.
00:45:01.000 But is that it?
00:45:02.000 Or is that discrediting you?
00:45:05.000 That was a gigantic hit movie.
00:45:06.000 But if they can discredit you, it makes that movie still valuable.
00:45:12.000 Not only that, it stops me from running for president, don't it, if they can discredit me.
00:45:17.000 Do you want to run for president?
00:45:18.000 I thought about it.
00:45:19.000 Even living in Mexico?
00:45:20.000 Well, I would have had to have forsaken that.
00:45:24.000 That's why I didn't do it.
00:45:26.000 The reason why you didn't run for president is because you had to have forsaken living in Mexico.
00:45:31.000 Let me tell you something. 0.99
00:45:32.000 Right now, you might fucking win. 0.99
00:45:34.000 I know. 0.99
00:45:34.000 I think I could have won. 0.99
00:45:35.000 No, the Libertarians contacted me twice to come to their convention.
00:45:39.000 They wanted to nominate me.
00:45:40.000 Jesse, come back to America.
00:45:41.000 Come, come, come.
00:45:42.000 And I chose not to do it because I was up for the campaigning.
00:45:47.000 I was up to taking on the Dems and Repubs.
00:45:51.000 But at this point at age 65, I wasn't up to do the job for four years where I'd have to end my lifestyle in Mexico because people don't realize when you get one of them jobs like president or governor, your freedom leaves that day.
00:46:06.000 You don't have freedom.
00:46:08.000 You're 24-7.
00:46:10.000 You're bodyguarded 24-7 every day.
00:46:12.000 You have no freedom whatsoever.
00:46:15.000 I couldn't go in 100% on that, and I felt that to go for president, you have to be 100% committed to do the job.
00:46:24.000 If you're not, you're cheating yourself, and you're cheating all the people that voted for you.
00:46:29.000 If you're not 100% committed, I could not reach 100%, so I chose not to.
00:46:35.000 So is this because of your own personal feelings about living in Mexico and having freedom and relaxation and enjoying the quality of life?
00:46:42.000 And also, I knew what would happen to me if I looked like I was going to win.
00:46:48.000 I would be politically assassinated.
00:46:51.000 They would pull up everything they could on me.
00:46:54.000 You know, one of the things they missed, which I laugh about today, when I ran for governor?
00:46:58.000 They never found it out, and I've admitted it since, so it'll show up now.
00:47:02.000 But they never found out, because I'm sure they would have tried to use it, even though it's irrelevant.
00:47:07.000 If I'd have gone for president, they would have.
00:47:09.000 You know what that is?
00:47:11.000 What?
00:47:12.000 I used to be Sergeant-at-Arms of the Mongols Motorcycle Club.
00:47:17.000 Really?
00:47:18.000 What does that mean?
00:47:19.000 What's sergeant-at-arms?
00:47:20.000 You're just the guy carrying the guns?
00:47:21.000 Third in command.
00:47:22.000 The Mongols are... 1.00
00:47:24.000 I watched some fucking... 1.00
00:47:25.000 One of those really terrible news shows where they do reenactments of, like... 1.00
00:47:32.000 Well, the Mongols are strong here in Southern California. 0.96
00:47:35.000 We're the black and white.
00:47:36.000 We're the ones that fought war with the hell...
00:47:39.000 What's the black and white?
00:47:39.000 That's our colors.
00:47:40.000 Oh, okay.
00:47:41.000 The angels are red and white.
00:47:42.000 Oh.
00:47:43.000 The Mongols are black and white. 0.96
00:47:44.000 Did you guys have shootouts with the angels occasionally?
00:47:47.000 Yeah.
00:47:47.000 Do you have one of those jackets?
00:47:50.000 Yeah, I have that at home.
00:47:53.000 No, I was an officer, so I was allowed to keep mine.
00:47:55.000 So what does that mean?
00:47:57.000 What did you guys do?
00:47:58.000 At that time, it was 1973, I rode Harleys, and I was still in the Navy.
00:48:04.000 I used to leave the base and put my colors on.
00:48:08.000 But what, like, sergeant-at-arms, what does that mean?
00:48:10.000 You had to carry guns?
00:48:11.000 No, sergeant-at-arms, you got the president of the chapter, you got the vice president, third is the sergeant-at-arms, fourth is the secretary.
00:48:19.000 It's very militaristic.
00:48:20.000 Nobody wants to be the secretary.
00:48:21.000 Yeah, you do, that makes you an officer.
00:48:23.000 Yeah, but that's a gross job.
00:48:23.000 No, but you keep track of all the money and stuff.
00:48:27.000 But what the fuck do you do? 0.99
00:48:29.000 Do you just drive around? 1.00
00:48:30.000 You ride bikes and party.
00:48:31.000 But why do you need all those rankings and file and all that jazz?
00:48:35.000 Because it's a club.
00:48:38.000 It's like the Elks.
00:48:40.000 They have presidents of the Elks Club.
00:48:42.000 They have presidents of whatever other stuff there is.
00:48:46.000 But the Elks Club doesn't get in gang wars with the Moose Club.
00:48:50.000 Well, you never know.
00:48:52.000 You never know.
00:48:53.000 They might.
00:48:53.000 They might get crazy.
00:48:54.000 A turf war could happen.
00:48:55.000 You don't know.
00:48:56.000 Like the Navy and the Army might do.
00:48:57.000 Get out.
00:48:58.000 The Elks and the Moose Club.
00:48:59.000 And in my day, a lot of the outlaw bikers were former military.
00:49:03.000 Yes.
00:49:03.000 And that was a big thing with the Hells Angels.
00:49:05.000 Yeah, because you came home.
00:49:06.000 Discontent people coming back from Vietnam. 1.00
00:49:07.000 You wanted your camaraderie.
00:49:08.000 You wanted a brotherhood.
00:49:10.000 Right.
00:49:10.000 And they felt disenfranchised, right?
00:49:12.000 I did it more for the adventure.
00:49:15.000 I was getting out of the SEALs.
00:49:17.000 I'd done two tours, 17 months in Southeast Asia.
00:49:21.000 I was going to transition into private life.
00:49:23.000 I was riding a Harley.
00:49:25.000 My two buddies that I'd ridden with a year earlier were now full patch Mongols when I came back from my second deployment. 1.00
00:49:32.000 Let me pretend to be a douchebag politician running against you here, I would say.
00:49:36.000 Are you really prepared to have a former Sergeant of Arms from the Mongols Motorcycle Club running the United States of America?
00:49:47.000 I don't think so, ladies and gentlemen!
00:49:49.000 And I would counter that and say, nobody messes with the Mongols, nobody will mess with the U.S. Wow, people do mess with the Mongols, though, and we don't really... 0.64
00:50:01.000 No, they don't.
00:50:01.000 I would have to help you with that speech.
00:50:03.000 No, they don't.
00:50:03.000 Let's not do that.
00:50:04.000 No, they don't.
00:50:05.000 They do mess with the Mongols, right? 0.99
00:50:06.000 Who does?
00:50:06.000 Don't they have wars?
00:50:07.000 Don't they have...
00:50:08.000 Those guys have... 1.00
00:50:08.000 Don't they shoot it out in, like, Texas steakhouses and shit? 1.00
00:50:11.000 Didn't they have, like, some big fucking shootout? 0.99
00:50:13.000 No, ours was Hera's nightclub and, uh... 0.99
00:50:18.000 Nevada.
00:50:19.000 Yeah, when was that?
00:50:20.000 That was back in 02. Yeah, but there was a big one a couple of years ago, right?
00:50:24.000 Not with us.
00:50:25.000 Wasn't with the Mongols? 0.90
00:50:27.000 You're saying us, like you're still with them, huh?
00:50:29.000 Is it like a Marine?
00:50:30.000 You're a Marine for life?
00:50:31.000 That kind of thing?
00:50:32.000 You got a card on you?
00:50:33.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:50:33.000 What are you just going to pull out his goddamn Mongol card? 1.00
00:50:35.000 I don't believe this. 1.00
00:50:37.000 What do you got in there?
00:50:38.000 He's got a wallet.
00:50:39.000 He's going to pull out a Mongol card. 0.96
00:50:40.000 Let's see.
00:50:41.000 Right next to his Disneyland year pass.
00:50:44.000 Well, let me see here.
00:50:46.000 I got a Disneyland year pass.
00:50:47.000 I got to find it now because I tuck it away.
00:50:50.000 No, I actually...
00:50:51.000 You have a Mongol card. 0.90
00:50:56.000 I would think that you would need a tattoo. 1.00
00:50:58.000 I would say, listen, bitch, if you really want to be down for life, we're going to get you a tattoo. 1.00
00:51:03.000 I already have a tattoo. 1.00
00:51:04.000 Of the Mongols? 0.96
00:51:05.000 No.
00:51:06.000 What is it?
00:51:07.000 Like a UDT tattoo?
00:51:08.000 The seals.
00:51:09.000 I have the Budweiser, Trident, and...
00:51:12.000 You trying to find your Mongo card?
00:51:15.000 How many of those cards do you actually need?
00:51:16.000 There's mine, and there's the card from Geo.
00:51:19.000 The Hollywood Prez gave me his last time I saw him. 1.00
00:51:22.000 Bam, motherfuckers. 1.00
00:51:23.000 Legit. 1.00
00:51:25.000 Too legit to quit.
00:51:26.000 That's hilarious.
00:51:28.000 That is hilarious.
00:51:30.000 And my name was...
00:51:32.000 I don't know.
00:51:33.000 What was your name?
00:51:34.000 You can find it on there.
00:51:35.000 You never go by your real name.
00:51:37.000 Superman?
00:51:38.000 Superman.
00:51:40.000 Why'd they call you Superman?
00:51:42.000 Because I was in such a physical specimen that when I was prospecting, they make you do push-ups and stuff, and I liked it.
00:51:50.000 Oh, so this is back in the Jesse, before the Jesse the Body Ventura days.
00:51:54.000 Oh yeah, this is back when I was transitioning out of the SEALs into civilian life.
00:51:58.000 And in fact, there's a good transition I can tell you about that shows how a book should do due diligence before they write something.
00:52:08.000 There was a book written by William Queen, an ATF agent who infiltrated the Mongols.
00:52:14.000 It's called Under and Alone.
00:52:16.000 And he infiltrated them and put like 25 of them in prison.
00:52:20.000 Well, in the book...
00:52:21.000 I think?
00:52:43.000 But I did want them to change something, and they did.
00:52:47.000 When I called them, I said, you stated the history of the Mongols that we started off like all white supremacist outlaw motorcycle clubs. 0.76
00:52:57.000 I said, I would never join anything that was white supremacist.
00:53:01.000 I said, to me, a biker is a lifestyle, and the color of your skin has nothing to do with it.
00:53:07.000 And I said, and the Mongols were not white supremacist.
00:53:11.000 And she said to me, well, Governor, how can you prove that?
00:53:14.000 I started laughing.
00:53:16.000 I said, I think I can prove it easily.
00:53:18.000 She goes, tell me.
00:53:19.000 This is the editor at Random House.
00:53:21.000 I said, at what time did Mexicans become white supremacists?
00:53:25.000 Because I said, the Mongols are 75% Latino-Mexican.
00:53:29.000 I was one of the few white guys who could ride into East L.A. and never be bothered because of my patch.
00:53:38.000 So how can you call us?
00:53:39.000 The Mongols started because Mexicans weren't allowed in the Hell's Angels. 0.96
00:53:45.000 See, I knew I liked you.
00:53:47.000 So the Mongols, the Mexican bikers, started their own bike club because they weren't allowed to be angels. 0.91
00:53:53.000 And yet they allow white guys. 0.56
00:53:56.000 But how did they miss that in writing the book? 1.00
00:53:58.000 That seems stupid. 1.00
00:54:00.000 Because you didn't know any better. 1.00
00:54:02.000 But that seems like a giant error.
00:54:04.000 It was.
00:54:05.000 That's why I had them pull out white supremacists.
00:54:09.000 And she started laughing when I said, well, I've never met a Mexican white supremacist.
00:54:14.000 Have you?
00:54:15.000 She said, no, I haven't either.
00:54:17.000 I said, well, we're 75% Latino-Mexican.
00:54:20.000 She goes, really?
00:54:22.000 I said, yes.
00:54:23.000 And I gave her the history.
00:54:24.000 The Mongols started because the Hells Angels wouldn't allow Mexicans. 0.95
00:54:30.000 That's hilarious.
00:54:31.000 And that's how the Mongols got started in 1970. Because they're 75% Latino-Mexican, but they didn't have the same... 0.95
00:54:40.000 You could be white.
00:54:42.000 I was a minority in the Mongols.
00:54:45.000 Now, was there crime involved in the Mongols when you were doing it? 0.89
00:54:48.000 I don't know.
00:54:48.000 Like I told them, I was still in the Navy and they used to protect me.
00:54:52.000 Whenever we'd have church...
00:54:54.000 Church?
00:54:55.000 Church, that's meaning.
00:54:56.000 They called it church?
00:54:58.000 Whenever we'd have church, if it got to anything that was at all illegal, my prez would send me out to watch the bikes. 0.99
00:55:07.000 That's fucking weird. 0.95
00:55:08.000 Well, they knew I was in the military. 0.99
00:55:11.000 Didn't that feel bizarre to you?
00:55:12.000 No, because I'd face double.
00:55:14.000 I'd face military justice as well as civilian.
00:55:17.000 A lot of these guys are old military.
00:55:19.000 They did it to protect me. 0.98
00:55:20.000 I appreciate that, but didn't it feel bizarre to you to be a part of a group that was probably doing some illegal shit? 0.95
00:55:27.000 No, because I thought at least I won't go to jail. 0.89
00:55:31.000 They won't have nothing on me because I don't know nothing about it.
00:55:34.000 You didn't care.
00:55:34.000 You loved them no matter what.
00:55:36.000 I loved riding.
00:55:37.000 You should see when I'd get pulled over.
00:55:38.000 We'd get pulled over by the CHP, California Highway Patrol, back then.
00:55:42.000 And I'd pull out my active duty military ID. And they'd look at me and, what are you doing with these guys?
00:55:49.000 I said, they like to ride bikes.
00:55:51.000 So do I. Can't you just ride a bike by yourself?
00:55:54.000 No?
00:55:55.000 No, because cars have no respect for you.
00:55:58.000 Ah, so you ride bikes to be safe.
00:56:00.000 If you're riding and looking like you showed what they're up on the screen a little while ago, you think the cars are going to bother you? 0.89
00:56:07.000 They're going to get the fuck out of your way. 0.90
00:56:08.000 That's right. 0.97
00:56:09.000 Oh, that's interesting.
00:56:10.000 Yeah, there we are right there.
00:56:12.000 Wow.
00:56:13.000 And do you still put on those jackets and still get on the Harley?
00:56:16.000 Yeah, except it ain't a Harley.
00:56:17.000 What do you ride now?
00:56:18.000 I ride a custom chopper that I had built, and it turned out there's not one Harley thing on it.
00:56:23.000 I have an SS124 engine, which is bigger than anything Harley's got, V-Twin, by SS out in Viola, Wisconsin.
00:56:33.000 I have an SS124 cubic inches.
00:56:37.000 The biggest Harley, I think, is 102 inches.
00:56:39.000 So you drive this around Mexico?
00:56:41.000 No, I drive it in Minnesota.
00:56:43.000 And I have, it's a Rolling Thunder frame, Arlen Ness front end and primary cover, RevTech six-speed transmission, Kiriakon gears.
00:56:56.000 Turned out when I built the whole chopper, in the end there wasn't one thing Harley on it.
00:57:01.000 Is that good?
00:57:02.000 I don't know.
00:57:03.000 It's all custom made, though.
00:57:05.000 And I put the old sissy bar and it goes way up. 0.98
00:57:07.000 I made a custom bike that looks...
00:57:09.000 Are you doing these things?
00:57:10.000 The eight pangers?
00:57:11.000 Yeah.
00:57:12.000 You do that?
00:57:12.000 Yeah, I got the eight pangers and the sissy bar.
00:57:14.000 But is it above your shoulders?
00:57:15.000 No, mine aren't that high.
00:57:16.000 Mine are about right here.
00:57:17.000 Right here seems logical.
00:57:18.000 Yeah.
00:57:19.000 That seems logical.
00:57:20.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:57:20.000 These guys, this is ridiculous shit. 1.00
00:57:21.000 Yeah, no, I don't go that high. 1.00
00:57:22.000 That's ridiculous. 0.70
00:57:23.000 But I have an extended front end.
00:57:25.000 Why do they do that, though, with the up-high handlebars?
00:57:27.000 Looks cool.
00:57:28.000 But you can't steer.
00:57:29.000 Doesn't matter.
00:57:30.000 It does. 0.83
00:57:30.000 It does if you have to get the fuck out of the way or something. 0.83
00:57:33.000 To an outlaw. 0.98
00:57:35.000 Not to us.
00:57:36.000 I understand.
00:57:37.000 To us, it's all about being cool.
00:57:38.000 You're a complicated man, Mr. Ventura.
00:57:39.000 You're a bunch of things.
00:57:40.000 No, it's all about being cool.
00:57:41.000 I get it, but you're a bunch of things. 0.98
00:57:43.000 Like sissy bars. 0.94
00:57:44.000 You don't have them today.
00:57:45.000 The guys that built the bike didn't even know what they were.
00:57:47.000 What's a sissy bar? 1.00
00:57:48.000 That's the bar that sticks up high in the back.
00:57:50.000 Oh, okay. 0.96
00:57:51.000 That's a sissy bar? 1.00
00:57:51.000 Yeah, they call it so you don't slide off the seat. 1.00
00:57:54.000 Sissies. 1.00
00:57:54.000 Oh, sissies. 1.00
00:57:56.000 But see, to me, I don't like saddlebags. 1.00
00:57:59.000 So a sissy bar is the replacement.
00:58:01.000 I'm going to bungee anything I need to take with me on the sissy bar, like the sleeping bag and anything else you're taking. 0.89
00:58:07.000 You bungee it to the sissy bar for when you drive down the road, because I don't dig saddlebags.
00:58:12.000 So you'll drive down the road to go camping somewhere?
00:58:14.000 No.
00:58:14.000 No, I rode.
00:58:15.000 Actually, I rode when I got out of office.
00:58:17.000 I rode all over Minnesota flying my colors and no one even recognized me.
00:58:21.000 You know why?
00:58:22.000 Why?
00:58:23.000 I went to a place.
00:58:24.000 I had a full beard after I taught at Harvard.
00:58:27.000 And so Johnny Depp had come out in Captain Jack Sparrow.
00:58:31.000 So I went to a place with a pitcher and I says, can you make my beard look like that?
00:58:36.000 And they go, sure.
00:58:36.000 So they braided my beard.
00:58:38.000 I remember when you were doing that.
00:58:38.000 So I had all the braids, right?
00:58:40.000 Then they talked me into letting me put dreadlocks.
00:58:43.000 They sewed them into my hair.
00:58:45.000 And they dyed my hair jet black.
00:58:47.000 I had dreadlocks to here.
00:58:50.000 The thing like that.
00:58:51.000 I rode one year after I was out of office.
00:58:54.000 I drove all over Minnesota with dreadlocks to my shoulders, the beard, no helmet, because we don't have a helmet law.
00:59:01.000 And people were locking their doors.
00:59:04.000 I had my mongo colors on, and here I'm the governor.
00:59:07.000 laughter It was great.
00:59:09.000 Never recognized.
00:59:11.000 That is so bizarre.
00:59:12.000 Never recognized, because I had dreadlocks.
00:59:14.000 They gave me all the way to the shoulders.
00:59:16.000 Now, why are you riding around with no helmet on?
00:59:18.000 Why?
00:59:19.000 Because you don't have to in Minnesota.
00:59:20.000 Yeah, but why wouldn't you want to protect your head?
00:59:22.000 I don't like helmets.
00:59:24.000 I don't think they should be mandatory.
00:59:26.000 I think something far more...
00:59:27.000 You know what I laugh at?
00:59:28.000 What?
00:59:29.000 When you see someone wearing a helmet and riding a bike with tennis shoes.
00:59:34.000 It's far more important to have over-the-ankle boots as a biker than a helmet.
00:59:40.000 Why's that?
00:59:40.000 Your feet touch the ground.
00:59:42.000 What's going to stable you if you start sliding out?
00:59:45.000 Your foot.
00:59:46.000 Right, okay.
00:59:47.000 You don't want tennis shoes.
00:59:48.000 You want an over-the-ankle, laced-up boot.
00:59:51.000 Or an engineer boot or something.
00:59:53.000 So you're pretty confident that if you dump, you'll be able to protect your head?
00:59:55.000 I don't know, but it's a choice of freedom.
00:59:58.000 But what about one of the little skull-cap jammies that go like a hat?
01:00:02.000 What if my head starts itching?
01:00:04.000 Jesus Christ, scratch it.
01:00:06.000 No, then you gotta rub the helmet.
01:00:08.000 That's why when you see a biker rubbing his helmet, it's because his head's itching. 0.92
01:00:11.000 Well, just man the fuck up and not worry about an itch. 0.95
01:00:15.000 Wait. 0.96
01:00:16.000 I'll accept helmets on motorcycles when they make people in convertibles that don't have roll bars have to wear them.
01:00:24.000 I have a convertible that doesn't have a roll bar.
01:00:25.000 Then you should have to wear a helmet.
01:00:27.000 That's a good point.
01:00:28.000 What if you roll that car and you don't have a helmet on?
01:00:31.000 That's a very good point.
01:00:32.000 There you go.
01:00:33.000 I think about that sometimes when I'm high.
01:00:34.000 So the day that you've got to have a roll bar is the day I'll put the helmet on.
01:00:38.000 All right, buddy.
01:00:38.000 Relax.
01:00:39.000 And I can't wait to see these women in Beverly Hills with their convertible Mercedes having to put helmets on. 1.00
01:00:46.000 Well, those actually have roll bars built in.
01:00:48.000 They pop up when one wheel goes off the ground, if you know about that.
01:00:51.000 I don't know about that.
01:00:52.000 German engineering.
01:00:53.000 Okay.
01:00:53.000 Yeah, they're on the ball.
01:00:54.000 Well, I own Porsche.
01:00:55.000 Porsche don't have it. 0.99
01:00:57.000 What do you mean Porsche doesn't have it?
01:00:58.000 What year?
01:00:59.000 I got a 2000 and a 2003. So you have a 996?
01:01:05.000 No, I have a Boxster S and I have the twin turbo.
01:01:09.000 Okay, well, that should have that built in.
01:01:11.000 It should have it so when you flip over...
01:01:13.000 I'm a hard top.
01:01:13.000 I'm a hard top, though.
01:01:14.000 I'm a coupe.
01:01:15.000 The Boxster.
01:01:16.000 No, the twin turbo is a hard top.
01:01:18.000 Yeah.
01:01:18.000 Right, okay, that doesn't have a roll bar.
01:01:20.000 Yeah.
01:01:20.000 But you have a Boxster.
01:01:21.000 Yep.
01:01:22.000 The Boxster should have something.
01:01:23.000 It has something.
01:01:24.000 Yeah, because anything, I think, anything past the 90s that's a convertible has some sort of a built-in roll bar or some sort of reinforcement.
01:01:32.000 I've never seen it.
01:01:34.000 Yeah, well, you haven't flipped it.
01:01:35.000 But the new ones absolutely do.
01:01:36.000 And I'm getting rid of both of them.
01:01:38.000 I'm going to a Tesla. 0.96
01:01:39.000 Whoa, you're getting crazy.
01:01:40.000 Going to a Tesla.
01:01:41.000 Test drove a Tesla.
01:01:43.000 It's unbelievable.
01:01:44.000 Oh, they're amazing.
01:01:46.000 And I want to feel young.
01:01:47.000 It's a computer-driven car, no gas.
01:01:50.000 That makes you feel young?
01:01:51.000 Yeah, because I grew up in the 60s with all the muscle cars, and I never dreamed there'd be electric cars that can beat any combustible engine out there off the line, because the Tesla can beat anything.
01:02:04.000 Pretty much, yeah.
01:02:05.000 My twin turbo, professionally driven, will do 0 to 60 in 2.9.
01:02:10.000 The Tesla does it in 2.6, unprofessionally driven. 0.98
01:02:14.000 Yeah, no, they're ridiculous. 0.67
01:02:16.000 They're ridiculously fast. 0.99
01:02:17.000 Yeah.
01:02:17.000 And you know what they call it?
01:02:19.000 It's called the ludicrous option. 0.98
01:02:20.000 He took it right out of space balls. 0.98
01:02:22.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:02:23.000 Ludicrous. 0.90
01:02:23.000 The guy's got a sense of humor. 0.90
01:02:25.000 He definitely does. 0.96
01:02:26.000 The ludicrous option.
01:02:28.000 And see, I'm going to do my house in Minnesota totally solar.
01:02:32.000 And I'm going to do it to where it's 105%, so that way I can also fill my cars up off the sun, so I will be completely off the Any type in my home or my cars will all be powered in Mexico and Minnesota by the sun.
01:02:48.000 That's awesome.
01:02:48.000 Including my cars.
01:02:49.000 That's awesome.
01:02:49.000 As long as you don't have to go on a big road trip.
01:02:52.000 Well, they now have it.
01:02:53.000 It's all computerized to where you can show where you can charge up again.
01:02:57.000 And they're getting 300 miles now to a charge.
01:02:59.000 You know what else is great about the Tesla?
01:03:01.000 Well, it depends how you drive it.
01:03:03.000 You know what else is great?
01:03:04.000 It's their warranty.
01:03:06.000 Eight years, unlimited mileage, and in that eight-year period, any improvements made to the car, you get free.
01:03:13.000 So upgrades, like digital upgrades?
01:03:15.000 Anything.
01:03:16.000 That's amazing.
01:03:17.000 For eight years.
01:03:17.000 So you could own the Tesla for eight years.
01:03:20.000 I'm doing an ad for them.
01:03:21.000 You could own a Tesla for eight years, and the car you own eight years from now will be identical to whatever they're selling new.
01:03:28.000 Yeah, I drove one for a day. 0.99
01:03:30.000 There's a, what is that fucking company called? 0.99
01:03:33.000 Skirt. 0.99
01:03:34.000 Yeah, there's a company called Skirt and it's like Uber for rentals.
01:03:37.000 They deliver a rental, you drive it for a day.
01:03:39.000 Yeah.
01:03:39.000 Or as long as you need it.
01:03:41.000 And my issue was that the battery just ran out way too quick for me.
01:03:44.000 For what I do, I just do too much.
01:03:46.000 See, for me it ain't because I live in Minnesota and I never drive over 100 miles in a day.
01:03:51.000 Right.
01:03:51.000 Golf course ain't that far.
01:03:53.000 Right.
01:03:54.000 I get it.
01:03:55.000 I get it.
01:03:55.000 No, for me in my life, I'm 65 now.
01:03:57.000 I don't need to be traveling.
01:03:58.000 Do you know something that'll shock you?
01:04:00.000 I've never owned a cell phone and I never will.
01:04:03.000 Whoa.
01:04:04.000 I was going to text you.
01:04:06.000 You can't.
01:04:07.000 I don't have a cell phone.
01:04:09.000 How come you don't have a cell phone?
01:04:10.000 For what?
01:04:11.000 I like talking to people.
01:04:13.000 Are you kidding?
01:04:14.000 I was out in New York.
01:04:15.000 I was out in New York doing this book tour, and I forget.
01:04:18.000 I was at Sirius.
01:04:19.000 And we were in the green room.
01:04:21.000 And there were ten people in that green room.
01:04:24.000 Nine of the ten sat there the whole time doing things with a phone.
01:04:28.000 I was the only one who sat and looked around the room.
01:04:33.000 And watched nine other people zeroed in on a screen, which if you count TV and that, what, we spending 16 hours a day now looking at screens?
01:04:44.000 I believe in evolution.
01:04:45.000 What's that going to lead to?
01:04:48.000 It's gonna lead to some strange times, for sure.
01:04:51.000 Oh, some strange people, too.
01:04:52.000 But wouldn't you rather just have it and have the discipline to not use it?
01:04:55.000 No.
01:04:56.000 No. 1.00
01:04:57.000 Just, fuck it. 1.00
01:04:57.000 Number one, I never took typing, so if I'm gonna send anything, it'll take me too long. 1.00
01:05:03.000 With your thumbs?
01:05:04.000 So easy.
01:05:05.000 When I taught at Harvard, I actually sent my only email there to a student.
01:05:11.000 One email?
01:05:12.000 You've only sent one email ever?
01:05:13.000 I send a couple, but they actually taught me how to use the computer while I was teaching at Harvard in my office.
01:05:20.000 And I actually, students would want to talk to me, so I'd have to line up a schedule.
01:05:25.000 And I actually, I sent an email to a student where I told them, this is the first email Jesse Ventura's ever sent in his life to Do with it as you see fit.
01:05:37.000 I'll bet you the students still got it.
01:05:39.000 Maybe.
01:05:40.000 Knowing I have the first email Jesse Ventura ever sent. 0.97
01:05:43.000 That's pretty ridiculous.
01:05:44.000 And when I left Harvard, there went the computer. 0.64
01:05:46.000 I haven't done it since.
01:05:48.000 You don't have a computer?
01:05:49.000 My wife does.
01:05:50.000 Wow.
01:05:51.000 She does all that. 0.96
01:05:52.000 I don't.
01:05:53.000 So that's probably one of the main reasons why this whole Chris Kyle thing blew up and you had no idea about it.
01:05:58.000 Yeah, because I was in Mexico.
01:05:59.000 You're in Mexico.
01:06:00.000 You don't have any internet.
01:06:01.000 No, I have internet there, yeah.
01:06:03.000 That's how I learned.
01:06:04.000 My son sent me an email telling me about what happened.
01:06:07.000 So you do have email.
01:06:08.000 Yeah, and I have Skype.
01:06:09.000 So I had to end up getting, through the satellite, I had to get my attorney to file the lawsuit immediately to stop him.
01:06:17.000 From this story, but they continued promoting it for another six months.
01:06:22.000 In fact, you know how bad the book company did?
01:06:25.000 HarperCollins, who's the same company that owns Fox News, they're all under the same umbrella.
01:06:31.000 HarperCollins, if you would have typed my name in on the internet, would have immediately sent you to the Chris Kyle story.
01:06:37.000 They did that.
01:06:39.000 To sell more books.
01:06:41.000 Wow.
01:06:42.000 See the conspiracy that I went against in this deal?
01:06:45.000 Now I've got to go through it again.
01:06:47.000 Well, that's so long ago.
01:06:48.000 It's so crazy that it's still going on.
01:06:50.000 I mean, this is 2012, right?
01:06:51.000 Yeah, it happened in 2012, and it's now 2016. It's over four years.
01:06:58.000 Jesus Christ.
01:06:58.000 It'll be five years in January.
01:07:00.000 How do you stay calm in all this?
01:07:02.000 Has the stress lessened at all?
01:07:05.000 No.
01:07:06.000 What are the consequences for you if you lose?
01:07:11.000 Financially, it's cost me over a million dollars.
01:07:14.000 Jesus Christ.
01:07:15.000 Well, I'm the plaintiff.
01:07:16.000 No one pays for me.
01:07:18.000 It's cost me over a million dollars four years of attorney fees, and the courts and everything that's gone with it has cost me a million dollars to clear my name.
01:07:27.000 Now, if I had done this, why would I do that?
01:07:32.000 If it had happened, why would I spend a million dollars in court clearing my name?
01:07:38.000 Has, over time, when more information has come out about the other things that he said that turned out to not be true, has public opinion started to shift towards your way?
01:07:48.000 It has now somewhat.
01:07:49.000 It seems like it has to me.
01:07:50.000 But you still have these people who will accost me in hotels.
01:07:54.000 It happened in Mexico, too.
01:07:56.000 What happened?
01:07:56.000 Well, a person came up to me in a hotel lobby and read me off.
01:08:00.000 And what do you say?
01:08:01.000 I say, but I didn't do it.
01:08:03.000 And all I'm doing is seeking the truth.
01:08:05.000 And what do they say?
01:08:06.000 They think you're going after the family.
01:08:08.000 Yeah.
01:08:08.000 So it's that.
01:08:09.000 Yeah.
01:08:09.000 They think I'm going after the family, which the family is going to lose a nickel.
01:08:14.000 It's a big insurance company that I'm fighting.
01:08:17.000 Anybody knows this that's written a book.
01:08:21.000 Because in your contract, it states if any lawsuits come of this nature, the publisher will handle it.
01:08:28.000 Right, the publisher handles it, but is there any consequences to the family where they don't profit as much because of the fact there's a lawsuit, the lawsuit cuts back on the profits for the book and the movie?
01:08:37.000 No, because the insurance company will pay the whole lawsuit.
01:08:42.000 And they hire them before the book's ever even written.
01:08:45.000 Right.
01:08:45.000 Errors and omissions, right?
01:08:47.000 Yeah.
01:08:48.000 And so, no, it won't affect anything.
01:08:51.000 The lawsuit itself won't affect the popularity of the book unless they find out he was a liar and don't choose to read his book.
01:08:59.000 Because I've never read his book.
01:09:02.000 Why would I? He wrote a lie about me.
01:09:05.000 How could I believe anything else in it?
01:09:09.000 What a terrible position to be in.
01:09:10.000 Oh yeah, especially when you're innocent.
01:09:13.000 Not just innocent, but you are a loved and respected celebrity in his 60s when this happens.
01:09:21.000 It's kind of a crazy feeling.
01:09:23.000 Yeah.
01:09:24.000 Especially when you didn't do nothing.
01:09:25.000 What else could you have done?
01:09:26.000 I mean, it's almost like you have to go to court over this.
01:09:29.000 I had to.
01:09:30.000 I did have to.
01:09:31.000 Because it was such an iconic movie and such an iconic thing.
01:09:34.000 Have you ever talked to Bradley Cooper?
01:09:36.000 No.
01:09:36.000 I don't hold nothing against him.
01:09:38.000 He's just an actor.
01:09:39.000 Of course not.
01:09:39.000 He's just an actor doing a job.
01:09:42.000 My friend directed it, Clint Eastwood.
01:09:45.000 He's a friend of mine.
01:09:46.000 Jesus Christ.
01:09:47.000 Did you talk to Clint?
01:09:48.000 No.
01:09:49.000 Jesus.
01:09:50.000 No. 1.00
01:09:52.000 The whole thing is so fucked up. 1.00
01:09:54.000 It's just so crazy that you sat across the table from this guy and he tells you he did it. 1.00
01:09:58.000 He tells you I did punch you.
01:09:59.000 Yeah.
01:10:00.000 And I know he didn't, and I know he didn't have the courage to face up to the truth or mental capability of him wouldn't let him.
01:10:07.000 I don't know what his problem was.
01:10:08.000 Or there's something wrong.
01:10:09.000 Yeah.
01:10:09.000 Something wrong, some fuse blown.
01:10:12.000 I don't know.
01:10:13.000 I don't know.
01:10:13.000 But why would you take one of your own and throw him under the bus?
01:10:17.000 It would be like me doing it to a World War II guy. 1.00
01:10:19.000 Just fucking crazy. 0.99
01:10:20.000 You know? 0.99
01:10:21.000 And especially, I like to tell people, you know, remember, us Vietnam veterans, we weren't cheered.
01:10:26.000 We got blamed for the war.
01:10:28.000 And which is a big part of what the Hells Angels was all about, like trying to find camaraderie in another group.
01:10:33.000 But we got blamed.
01:10:35.000 The politicians blamed us for the war. 0.64
01:10:37.000 And the public sentiment here in that country at that time, we were baby killers. 0.96
01:10:43.000 We were all these horrible, vile... 0.95
01:10:46.000 You know, guys got spit on when they came home.
01:10:49.000 And it was the first time in history, in the United States history, that veterans came back and were treated that way.
01:10:54.000 Yep.
01:10:54.000 In fact, I will tell you this.
01:10:57.000 For ten years, I didn't even acknowledge I was a Vietnam vet.
01:11:02.000 Wow.
01:11:05.000 Because you didn't even acknowledge it.
01:11:07.000 No one wanted to know you were.
01:11:09.000 Nobody said welcome home to you.
01:11:12.000 Nobody said thank you.
01:11:14.000 These Iraq guys, they get parades for them.
01:11:17.000 It's so interesting because it seems like in that sense they got that right at least.
01:11:21.000 At least it's not like the way the Vietnam veterans were treated. 0.99
01:11:25.000 But this fucking story just doesn't sit right with me. 1.00
01:11:29.000 It's horrible. 1.00
01:11:31.000 It's so uncomfortable.
01:11:32.000 Yeah.
01:11:33.000 It's so uncomfortable because...
01:11:34.000 How would you like to have lived it for five years like I have?
01:11:37.000 I couldn't imagine.
01:11:38.000 But what's so uncomfortable about it is that I feel like...
01:11:43.000 The sentiment behind the movie and the public's perception of the movie and the public's love and gratitude towards him and the rest of the military was, to me, an amazing moment in a lot of ways.
01:11:58.000 It's like people wanted to thank people.
01:12:02.000 Let me give you a different perspective for a moment.
01:12:05.000 I talked about this on my internet show.
01:12:08.000 Who's more powerful, God or government?
01:12:13.000 Government.
01:12:13.000 You want to know why?
01:12:15.000 Well, God says something very simple.
01:12:19.000 Thou shalt not kill.
01:12:21.000 There's no asterisk by it, except for this reason or that reason.
01:12:26.000 It's simple.
01:12:26.000 Thou shalt not kill.
01:12:28.000 But yet, you can kill at the behest of government, and it's okay.
01:12:34.000 Yeah, it's super complicated.
01:12:35.000 Okay, wait. 0.81
01:12:36.000 And if you kill a bunch of people at the behest of government, they make you a hero. 0.67
01:12:44.000 Yet, God says, thou shalt not kill. 0.59
01:12:48.000 Yet, if I kill a lot of people for the government, I'm a hero.
01:12:53.000 How can that be?
01:12:54.000 How can there be a double standard like that?
01:12:57.000 Well, it shows completely that government's more powerful than God, because government allows you to kill when God says you can't, and government rewards you for it and gives you hero status for it, and God doesn't do anything about it.
01:13:14.000 It is pretty complicated thinking when God is a big part of the military.
01:13:19.000 I mean, when the 9-11 happened, when the 9-11 attacks happened and George Bush on television said that God is with the troops.
01:13:29.000 You know what the worst thing I ever heard him say?
01:13:33.000 When he was trumping up the Iraq War, I'll never forget it because I opposed the Iraq War before it even happened. 0.97
01:13:38.000 I said, this is ridiculous.
01:13:40.000 Iraq didn't have nothing to do with 9-11. 0.57
01:13:42.000 Why are we invading Iraq?
01:13:44.000 Well, I'll never forget Bush's press conference where he walked out and announced that he was sending in our military.
01:13:52.000 We're going to attack Iraq. 1.00
01:13:54.000 And he was getting ready to leave the stage.
01:13:57.000 And a final reporter asked him, Mr. President, did you consult your father?
01:14:03.000 Meaning Bush Sr. Because, you know, Bush Sr. had the Kuwait-Iraq thing happen during his watch.
01:14:09.000 And I'll never forget George Bush turning around to the press and the American people, smiling and going, No, I consulted a higher father.
01:14:22.000 I was sitting in my chair at home and almost fell out of it.
01:14:25.000 I said, this guy wants me to believe that he talked to God and God told him to invade Iraq?
01:14:34.000 You're saying you consulted a higher father.
01:14:36.000 Higher father.
01:14:37.000 It's like going up to a rock and asking the rock what you should do with your life.
01:14:42.000 You're not getting any answers back.
01:14:43.000 Well, excuse me.
01:14:44.000 And then I said, I've been on the earth as long as this guy.
01:14:47.000 I'm twice the man George Bush is, and God ain't never said a word to me in my entire existence.
01:14:53.000 Yet this guy wants me to believe God talks to him?
01:14:57.000 Yeah, they just let that go.
01:14:59.000 If you just say, God talked to me, they just let that slide.
01:15:02.000 Oh, yeah.
01:15:03.000 He consulted God.
01:15:03.000 He consulted a higher father.
01:15:06.000 We'll be right back.
01:15:06.000 So in other words, he wants us to believe that his invasion of Iraq had God's blessing.
01:15:13.000 And all the people of this country accept that.
01:15:16.000 It's one of those convenient acknowledgments.
01:15:18.000 And Jesse Ventura can say it because I've come out of the closet.
01:15:23.000 You've come out of the closet for what?
01:15:25.000 I'm an atheist.
01:15:27.000 You're an atheist in that you don't believe in any higher power?
01:15:30.000 I don't believe in the higher beating.
01:15:31.000 Nothing?
01:15:32.000 No.
01:15:33.000 He ain't selling me on that.
01:15:35.000 Do you believe in the possibility of something happening when you die?
01:15:39.000 No.
01:15:40.000 You don't?
01:15:41.000 No.
01:15:41.000 You think if you die you just go dark?
01:15:42.000 I don't know.
01:15:43.000 And that's a wrap?
01:15:44.000 Yep.
01:15:44.000 That's a wrap.
01:15:47.000 There's no proof that anything else happens.
01:15:50.000 It's just a belief.
01:15:53.000 And to me, I don't believe it because, like I said, I've been on the planet 65 years now and God's never spoke to me.
01:16:01.000 Now, if I'm wrong, people say, well, what if you're wrong?
01:16:05.000 I'll say, well, God made me with a brain to think, didn't he?
01:16:10.000 He's going to condemn me because I used it? 0.98
01:16:14.000 Well, religion in a sense is pretty ridiculous, the idea that God came to people a long fucking time ago when they didn't even have books and told everybody about the world and then wanted everybody to pass it down. 0.97
01:16:25.000 Did you know about Horus? 0.99
01:16:26.000 Sure.
01:16:27.000 Well, Horus was an Egyptian god who has the identical same bio as Jesus.
01:16:32.000 Only he predates them by a couple hundred years.
01:16:35.000 So who's the real one?
01:16:37.000 They did this.
01:16:38.000 They were both born of a virgin.
01:16:40.000 They both walked on water, allegedly.
01:16:42.000 They both healed the sick.
01:16:43.000 They both were crucified and buried, rose again from the dead.
01:16:47.000 Jesus did it, and so did Horus. 0.96
01:16:50.000 Well, there's a ton of parallels throughout history.
01:16:54.000 Well, and that's my point.
01:16:55.000 That's why I'm not a believer.
01:16:57.000 Well, I'm not a believer in anything that ancient people said about communicating with higher powers and passing down laws that must be, without a doubt, followed. 0.97
01:17:07.000 And some of them are ridiculous. 0.70
01:17:08.000 You can't wear two different types of cloth. 0.97
01:17:11.000 I mean, you can be put to death for wearing two different types of cloth.
01:17:14.000 I mean, I don't know if people know that.
01:17:15.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:17:16.000 There's a lot of really fucking goofy ones. 0.99
01:17:18.000 How about the story of who was the gentleman in the Bible where he was bald and two children mocked him for his baldness, so God sent two bears to attack the kids and maul them and kill them? 0.99
01:17:29.000 That's in the Bible.
01:17:30.000 Yeah, that's Old Testament stuff. 1.00
01:17:32.000 Yeah, make fun of a bald guy like you and me, and a fucking bear comes and kills kids. 1.00
01:17:37.000 Jesus Christ! 1.00
01:17:38.000 Where do you find these bears?
01:17:39.000 I'd like to locate them.
01:17:41.000 But I mean, what kind of a god is that?
01:17:42.000 No, I've been made fun of enough.
01:17:44.000 Could I have a couple of attack bears then, the next guy that makes fun of us? 0.99
01:17:48.000 But what a fucking ridiculous thing to say, and to put that in the Bible. 1.00
01:17:52.000 Like, the fact that two kids can make fun of you being bald, and so God punishes those kids by having a fucking bear attack them. 1.00
01:17:59.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:18:00.000 Like, how about it doesn't bother you if you're bald? 1.00
01:18:02.000 Like, what kind of a pussy are you? 1.00
01:18:04.000 The little kid's taunting you. 1.00
01:18:06.000 How about the fact that they tell you that the world's only 5,000 years old?
01:18:09.000 I think it's 10. Ten, whatever.
01:18:11.000 Five, ten, whatever the hell it is. 0.97
01:18:13.000 I don't keep track of it, but I mean, how ridiculous is that? 0.87
01:18:16.000 Well, they've done it very scientifically.
01:18:18.000 They counted up all the ages of all the people in the Bible, so I don't know how you are arguing with this. 0.67
01:18:23.000 Ha, ha, ha.
01:18:26.000 It's a very accurate book.
01:18:28.000 It's hilarious, too, that they'll say, well, that's Old Testament.
01:18:32.000 You don't follow the Old Testament. 0.99
01:18:33.000 Oh, so you want to follow the book that was written by Constantine and a bunch of fucking bishops? 0.99
01:18:37.000 Not only that, Constantine wasn't even a Christian until he was on his deathbed. 0.99
01:18:43.000 Constantine converted when he was a dying old man.
01:18:46.000 He wasn't a Christian through his entire reign.
01:18:48.000 So there's hope for Jesse.
01:18:49.000 Oh.
01:18:51.000 I'll just follow Constantine.
01:18:53.000 When I get to the dying bed, if I find out there's God, I'll see the light.
01:18:58.000 Just hedge your bets.
01:19:00.000 It's like what Dan Bilzerian would say.
01:19:02.000 You can't lose in this bet.
01:19:04.000 Because if you're wrong and there is no God, like if you get to the deathbed and you convert to Christianity and you're wrong and there is no God, it doesn't matter anyway because it's all just darkness. 0.69
01:19:16.000 You just go blank.
01:19:18.000 You know, it's kind of like the Republicans and the Democrats.
01:19:22.000 It's kind of like you filing your taxes January 28th.
01:19:26.000 You slip in a couple days early.
01:19:29.000 It's like the Republicans and the Democrats.
01:19:31.000 How's that?
01:19:32.000 Well, they, when you go to their conventions, the lobbyists attend both.
01:19:38.000 And they pay off both sides.
01:19:41.000 So it doesn't matter who wins the presidency.
01:19:45.000 It'd be the equivalent of betting on the Super Bowl.
01:19:48.000 If you bet on both teams, you don't lose, do you?
01:19:51.000 That's what the lobbyists do.
01:19:54.000 They bet on both teams, so whether Hillary or Trump wins, they got their base covered.
01:19:59.000 It don't matter to them.
01:20:01.000 They've already paid them off.
01:20:02.000 The only thing that really changes whether it's right to left is the aspects of society that are affected by the social changes.
01:20:11.000 Like, Obama was much more lenient towards gay marriage, towards a lot of social issues.
01:20:16.000 Yeah, but he was much more strict on putting us under more surveillance, which is a social issue.
01:20:23.000 Yes.
01:20:24.000 So it plays out the same way.
01:20:26.000 He may have been lenient on certain social things, and then more people are now in jail, and look what he does to whistleblowers.
01:20:35.000 Yeah, I was going to bring that up.
01:20:36.000 He destroys them.
01:20:37.000 And so everybody that thinks Obama is kinder to the people on social?
01:20:43.000 Not really.
01:20:44.000 It seems like it on the surface, when you look at his demeanor and the way he carries himself, but then when you look at his actual actions...
01:20:50.000 Well, he's presidential.
01:20:51.000 Yes.
01:20:51.000 Well, he's the most presidential president we've had in a long, long time.
01:20:54.000 And I'll say this, he's the most dynamic speaker since Jack Kennedy.
01:21:00.000 See, I don't think he's that dynamic anymore.
01:21:02.000 Oh, I do.
01:21:03.000 I think Obama...
01:21:04.000 I think he's kind of beaten down by time.
01:21:06.000 Yeah, but he's eight years in now, and you've heard him long enough, but he is the most dynamic speaker since Kennedy.
01:21:11.000 Yeah, but he's not...
01:21:12.000 The actions don't back the words, so the words don't...
01:21:14.000 Well, that's true.
01:21:15.000 Like, the words before he ran for... 0.99
01:21:17.000 When he was running for office, I was like, holy shit, this is the guy. 0.99
01:21:20.000 This is the guy. 0.99
01:21:21.000 I mean, this is the solution.
01:21:22.000 And the same thing's going to happen with Hillary. 1.00
01:21:25.000 All the women out there that think, oh, we're going to get our first female president. 1.00
01:21:29.000 Yes, you're going to get him, but it ain't going to be nothing different.
01:21:33.000 You're going to get the same government completely because Hillary's a globalist. 1.00
01:21:38.000 She supports all the global initiatives.
01:21:41.000 She's also for war. 0.68
01:21:43.000 The thing that troubles me when they attack Trump, and I'm not a Trump supporter, but Hillary, they claim Hillary has the experience.
01:21:50.000 Well, let's look at it.
01:21:52.000 When she was a senator, the most important vote she took was to vote in the affirmative to invade Iraq.
01:22:00.000 She now admits that was her biggest mistake.
01:22:04.000 Excuse me, Madam Clinton, that was the most important vote and you blew it? 0.58
01:22:10.000 Now you're going to have your finger on the button?
01:22:12.000 What happens if you make the same mistake that you made with the war on Iraq, which you now admit was the worst vote you took as a senator approving the Iraq war?
01:22:24.000 And yet she took it, didn't she?
01:22:26.000 She voted to the affirmative, let's go to war with Iraq. 0.97
01:22:30.000 Yeah, it's very troubling.
01:22:32.000 The momentum of influence of all these lobbyists and special interest groups and all the money that's behind her, all the bankers, all the different people that are paying her for these $250,000 an hour speeches.
01:22:44.000 At what point in time do you gather up enough money where this doesn't make sense anymore?
01:22:49.000 When you start thinking about your children and your children's children and the future of the world, or do you think that she thinks she's doing the right thing?
01:22:55.000 She thinks she's doing the right thing.
01:22:57.000 That's the system.
01:22:58.000 The system they've created, the Democrats and Republicans, is a system based upon the concept of bribery.
01:23:08.000 Now, if you do bribery in the private sector, you go to prison.
01:23:11.000 But in the public sector, it's completely alive and well.
01:23:14.000 That's why I don't trust any career politician, because that means they're comfortable in a system of bribery, a corrupt system.
01:23:23.000 And if they're comfortable to work in that corrupt system for all those years, that means they're corrupt too.
01:23:30.000 You could win.
01:23:31.000 You know, you could be the president.
01:23:33.000 I know.
01:23:33.000 You're one of the few independents that literally could win.
01:23:36.000 I know.
01:23:37.000 I mean, especially now.
01:23:38.000 I know. 0.99
01:23:38.000 Like, if you see what's going on now with Trump and what I call grab the pussy gate, if grab the pussy gate doesn't... 0.99
01:23:45.000 He's fucking moved up in the polls. 1.00
01:23:47.000 He's moved up since the first debate. 1.00
01:23:49.000 This is madness.
01:23:50.000 I mean, we're dealing with a mad, mad world right now.
01:23:53.000 Well, we're dealing with what I see in the United States today, at least a faction of it.
01:23:59.000 We are going down the identical road of 1930s Germany.
01:24:07.000 Look at what we're doing.
01:24:08.000 We're marginalizing one group of people, the Mexicans. 1.00
01:24:12.000 They're responsible for everything bad in the country, right?
01:24:16.000 What did the Germans do?
01:24:18.000 They did that with the Jews. 1.00
01:24:19.000 They got all the other people angry at the Jews, all the Germans, so that they could...
01:24:25.000 Everything we're doing right now parallels 1930s Germany to a T. You know what's really crazy?
01:24:33.000 We're waging wars throughout the world.
01:24:35.000 We're invading countries. 0.96
01:24:39.000 I don't know if you know this, but there was a poll taken three years ago by Gallup, and it never got any publicity here.
01:24:47.000 International poll, 3,000 people, I think, and they posed, no Americans, nobody from the U.S., and they posed the question, if your country were to go to war today, who do you think it would likely be against?
01:25:02.000 23% answered the United States.
01:25:06.000 8% answered China.
01:25:09.000 6% said Pakistan.
01:25:11.000 So one out of four international people believe that if they go to war, the United States will be the adversary.
01:25:20.000 As a veteran, I hang my head in shame over that.
01:25:25.000 Run, Jesse.
01:25:26.000 Run.
01:25:26.000 Too late.
01:25:27.000 Come on, man.
01:25:29.000 Too late.
01:25:29.000 Why is it too late?
01:25:30.000 You look healthy?
01:25:31.000 I have to wait until 2020 now.
01:25:32.000 It's too late to get in this one.
01:25:33.000 I'd have to go to the libertarian thing.
01:25:35.000 You've got to have ballot access.
01:25:36.000 Yeah, but 2020 is a good time.
01:25:38.000 Well, we'll see.
01:25:39.000 Donald Trump's 70. Hillary's 70. We'll get you on the juice.
01:25:42.000 Well, I'll be almost 70. We'll fire you up.
01:25:43.000 We'll give you some healthy...
01:25:44.000 I'm almost 70, and I never say never. 0.95
01:25:48.000 Maybe if Hillary wins, and the women see there's no difference having a woman, as we learn there's no difference having a black man in there. 1.00
01:25:57.000 It's still business as usual.
01:26:00.000 Maybe when they learn all that, if the revolution continues to happen, because you know, here's something interesting.
01:26:07.000 The Bernie's people and the original Trump people wanted the same thing.
01:26:12.000 Yeah, they wanted to dissolve this system.
01:26:14.000 But they couldn't come together because one's ultra-left, the other's ultra-right.
01:26:18.000 The status quo is now using that to survive.
01:26:23.000 They're keeping the revolutionaries separated so that they can survive with business as usual.
01:26:30.000 Well, there's two completely different factions.
01:26:31.000 One that wants to dissolve the system because he thinks it's corrupt, but he uses certain aspects of the system to...
01:26:37.000 Make vast amounts of money.
01:26:39.000 The other one doesn't really care about money and really thinks that people should make more money for their...
01:26:45.000 I mean, there's a lot of things that I agree with.
01:26:46.000 But both agree to clean house.
01:26:48.000 What we got now is a mess.
01:26:50.000 Exactly.
01:26:50.000 And clear the house out and start over.
01:26:52.000 Yeah.
01:26:53.000 Both agree to that.
01:26:54.000 Yeah, well that's one of the things that people support in Trump and they wish that he wasn't the guy he is.
01:26:59.000 Yeah.
01:26:59.000 And so they try to pretend that he's someone other than who he is.
01:27:02.000 I really believe, and I believe this, if I would have gotten in the race and gotten into the debates, I could have won.
01:27:11.000 Oh, you definitely could have won.
01:27:12.000 You're a way better speaker than either one of them.
01:27:14.000 And it isn't even the speaker.
01:27:18.000 It's, I don't have the baggage.
01:27:21.000 Right.
01:27:22.000 And did you know, here's some interesting things.
01:27:24.000 But the speaker aspect is a huge issue.
01:27:26.000 When I ran for governor, I only raised $300,000.
01:27:31.000 That's it?
01:27:32.000 Yeah.
01:27:33.000 I made more money doing the job than what I spent to get it.
01:27:37.000 That's unprecedented.
01:27:38.000 Yeah.
01:27:39.000 Isn't that hilarious?
01:27:40.000 That's why they don't want to talk about me.
01:27:41.000 That's why they want me gone.
01:27:44.000 I've beaten them twice.
01:27:45.000 Well, you're also an actual military veteran.
01:27:49.000 You're also a man who's actually held office before, and you're actually not a career politician.
01:27:53.000 But you've done the job, and you have a very good insight on what it's all about. 0.83
01:27:57.000 You're also a conspiracy theorist, which scares the shit out of them, right? 0.75
01:28:00.000 Well, but let's remember, they did a huge study in England and found that conspiracy theorists are generally more intelligent. 0.74
01:28:07.000 Oh, you gotta meet some of my friends.
01:28:09.000 No, they're more intelligent. 1.00
01:28:10.000 I'll throw a fucking monkey wrench right into that study. 1.00
01:28:12.000 Because they don't accept things. 0.99
01:28:14.000 They do their own personal studies before they bring up an opinion. 0.97
01:28:19.000 Right, but then there's some flat earth people and chemtrail people and there's some wacky shit that gets thrown into the mix there too. 0.97
01:28:25.000 Dinosaurs aren't real. 0.96
01:28:27.000 Yeah, but I'll tell you something.
01:28:28.000 As crazy as some of them sound...
01:28:31.000 Sometimes after a few years go by, you start thinking, you know, they might be right.
01:28:36.000 What do you think about people landing on the moon?
01:28:39.000 I think we were there.
01:28:40.000 Okay.
01:28:41.000 Yeah, absolutely I do.
01:28:42.000 Do you think any of the footage is fake?
01:28:45.000 I'd like to not believe it is.
01:28:47.000 I don't know.
01:28:48.000 I've never studied it.
01:28:49.000 I've never sat down and really hammered out.
01:28:52.000 I was 18 years old.
01:28:54.000 I just graduated from high school when allegedly you walked on the moon.
01:29:00.000 I was far more concerned at that time of Woodstock.
01:29:04.000 And that also happened that year.
01:29:07.000 The real issue with conspiracy theories is the absolute proven ones.
01:29:11.000 Like Gulf of Tonkin, which got us into the Vietnam War that you were a part of.
01:29:16.000 Operation Northwoods, which was signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, vetoed by Kennedy, where they had planned attacks on Guantanamo Bay.
01:29:24.000 They were going to arm Cuban friendlies to attack Guantanamo Bay, blame it on the Cubans, and let us go to war with Cuba. 0.80
01:29:30.000 They were going to blow up a drone jetliner. 0.52
01:29:32.000 Fly a jetliner, blow it up, blame it on Cuba. 0.94
01:29:35.000 They were going to do all these different things.
01:29:37.000 And after knowing all that, you also ought to include the murder of John Kennedy.
01:29:42.000 Yeah.
01:29:42.000 Because I don't buy at all what they've told us.
01:29:47.000 And let's bring in 9-11.
01:29:49.000 Well, the murder of John Kennedy to me is, first of all, there's so many aspects of it that people like to conveniently ignore, like the magic bullet.
01:29:57.000 Not just the path, because bullets take crazy paths.
01:30:00.000 I'm sure you know that. 0.98
01:30:01.000 Bullets, I mean, you can shoot someone in the front and the bullet will come out of their eyeballs. 0.99
01:30:04.000 It does happen. 0.99
01:30:06.000 Things ricochet off bone. 0.99
01:30:08.000 Weird shit happens. 0.98
01:30:09.000 But a bullet does not go through bone and come out looking like that. 1.00
01:30:12.000 It just doesn't.
01:30:13.000 And not only that, it can't be bigger than it originally was.
01:30:16.000 Exactly.
01:30:17.000 There's more particles inside the body than are missing from the bullet itself.
01:30:20.000 Exactly.
01:30:21.000 So the bullet can't get bigger than what it originally was.
01:30:25.000 That bullet went through Kennedy, shattered bones in Connelly's body, and came out looking pristine.
01:30:30.000 Now, I've shot a lot of bullets.
01:30:32.000 I know what happens when you hit animals with bullets. 0.99
01:30:34.000 When you hit bones, I have these two copper bullets from an elk I shot, and they are fucked up. 0.98
01:30:39.000 Well, we recreated it on conspiracy theory, and I couldn't make the shots, and I'm an expert. 0.97
01:30:45.000 I mean, the thing that was hard, you couldn't work that bolt quick enough.
01:30:51.000 They claim he got the shots off in like six seconds. 0.97
01:30:55.000 Ridiculous.
01:30:56.000 The fastest I could do it without even aiming was 7.8. 0.62
01:31:01.000 And that was not even taking an aim.
01:31:03.000 Well, I think if the gun was lubed up well, if you practice really well, I don't have a problem with someone being able to do something extraordinarily quickly.
01:31:11.000 Carlos couldn't.
01:31:13.000 The sniper.
01:31:14.000 Carlos Hathcock?
01:31:15.000 They recreated the whole thing for him and he couldn't make the shots and he's the greatest sniper in history and he even laughed about it and said, you're gonna tell me Oswald could outshoot me?
01:31:26.000 Isn't it possible that he got lucky?
01:31:28.000 No.
01:31:28.000 I mean, isn't it possible that he got lucky with one shot?
01:31:30.000 Not with the third shot.
01:31:31.000 No.
01:31:32.000 Nah.
01:31:33.000 And why wouldn't you like an Oliver's movie?
01:31:35.000 If you want it, why didn't you take it when he's coming at you?
01:31:38.000 Well, he couldn't get into that position.
01:31:40.000 If it really was Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone.
01:31:43.000 Right there.
01:31:43.000 Okay, I see what you're saying.
01:31:44.000 Car's coming right at you before it makes the turn.
01:31:46.000 That way, if you miss, the next one's going to be closer.
01:31:50.000 The weird thing is that they had to come up with a magic bullet theory to account for a bullet that hit the underpass and ricocheted off of the curb and hit a guy.
01:31:58.000 And because of that, that's why they had to account for one bullet doing all that damage to two different people's bodies.
01:32:02.000 I'll give you another interesting one.
01:32:04.000 I interviewed Mr. Newman.
01:32:05.000 And Mr. Newman was the physical person closest to the fatal headshot.
01:32:11.000 He's the guy you see who covers his kids in all the movies.
01:32:15.000 That's Mr. Newman.
01:32:16.000 And I asked him...
01:32:18.000 This was a few years ago when I was doing this show.
01:32:20.000 I met him there and interviewed.
01:32:21.000 I said, where did you think the bullet came from?
01:32:24.000 He said, oh, it came from over my shoulder, which puts it right at the picket fence, because he was right down there, and he said it came from over his right shoulder.
01:32:30.000 And we had his FBI report there, right?
01:32:34.000 One page.
01:32:35.000 And I said to Mr. Newman, I said, well, Mr. Newman, when you stated it came over your shoulder, which put it at the grassy knoll, I said, how did the Warren Commission respond to this?
01:32:48.000 You know what he said to me?
01:32:50.000 He looked at me and said, I was never called in front of the Warren Commission.
01:32:54.000 And I went, you were the closest living witness to the headshot, and they never even brought you in to ask you a question?
01:33:04.000 Nope.
01:33:05.000 Why?
01:33:06.000 Because they saw his initial report didn't fit with what they were going to put out.
01:33:11.000 So they conveniently didn't call him in.
01:33:14.000 There's also two different accounts from the autopsy.
01:33:18.000 The Bethesda, Maryland version versus the Dallas version of the entrance wound on the neck.
01:33:23.000 They call it an entrance wound and Bethesda, Maryland said it was a tracheotomy wound.
01:33:29.000 I mean, they changed it from a bullet hitting him in the front Well, what's his name also changed it?
01:33:36.000 Gerald Ford.
01:33:36.000 Yeah.
01:33:37.000 The back bullet.
01:33:38.000 He moved it up.
01:33:39.000 Yeah.
01:33:39.000 Now, how do you do those things, you know?
01:33:42.000 And then the other interesting thing was, Harold Weisberg wrote about it in his great books, Whitewash.
01:33:49.000 Harold, it took him 10 years to get the minutes of the Warren Commission.
01:33:52.000 It came out that a Houston newspaper stated Oswald was a paid FBI informant, had his number and the whole thing.
01:34:00.000 So the Warren Commission had to hold an emergency meeting, and it took Harold 10 years to get the minutes because they withheld them.
01:34:08.000 Now you'd think they were meeting to discover and find out about this, right?
01:34:13.000 The whole minutes to the meeting had nothing to do with that.
01:34:17.000 The minutes to the meeting dealt with completely, how do we cover this up?
01:34:22.000 How do we cover this up? 0.95
01:34:24.000 It's pretty ridiculous. 0.97
01:34:25.000 The guy who is the closest to play devil's advocate, when any sort of a chaotic event happens, your memory is usually fucked up because you're dealing with adrenaline, especially someone who's not used to being in sort of combat type situations. 0.98
01:34:38.000 Human memory is one of the most faulty pieces of evidence you could ever get. 0.97
01:34:42.000 People remember all kinds of shit that isn't real. 0.64
01:34:44.000 And if the story started getting out, that there was people shooting from behind the grass, you know, it's entirely possible that someone can fabricate something in their own mind and not even be deceptive. 0.98
01:34:55.000 Maybe.
01:34:55.000 Maybe.
01:34:56.000 But I would think that if you were there and you heard the shot and you felt it go over your shoulder...
01:35:03.000 I would think you.
01:35:04.000 If you told me.
01:35:05.000 Well, Mr. Newman was in the military, I think.
01:35:08.000 I don't know Mr. Newman.
01:35:08.000 Yeah, I never quizzed him on that, but I thought he was.
01:35:11.000 But there were others, too, not just him.
01:35:14.000 Right, but you have to agree that you have to throw...
01:35:16.000 There's a lot of witnesses who said that they...
01:35:18.000 And in fact, there's a photo where you see smoke going across the plaza right from the grassy knoll in the air.
01:35:24.000 Have you ever seen...
01:35:26.000 Did you ever read David Lifton's book, Best Evidence?
01:35:29.000 Yep.
01:35:29.000 It's an amazing book.
01:35:30.000 That was the book that got me on the conspiracy theory trail.
01:35:34.000 But there was an analysis done.
01:35:36.000 The one you need to read is Whitewash by Harold Weisberg.
01:35:40.000 I'll read it this weekend.
01:35:41.000 Whitewash.
01:35:43.000 You got me fired up again.
01:35:44.000 There was a crazy analysis of all the witnesses of the Kennedy assassination and how many of them died untimely deaths. 0.99
01:35:52.000 It is fucking terrifying.
01:35:54.000 If you haven't seen that, folks, Jamie, see if you can find that. 0.99
01:35:58.000 Witnesses to the Kennedy assassination that died untimely deaths.
01:36:01.000 But they did a statistical analysis of the odds of all these people getting murdered.
01:36:06.000 It's like a billion to one. 1.00
01:36:08.000 Random murders and fucking bizarre suicides. 1.00
01:36:11.000 It's insane. 1.00
01:36:13.000 Well, how about Dorothy Kilgallen?
01:36:15.000 The great Washington reporter, she went out and got an interview with Jack Ruby.
01:36:22.000 She came out of the interview stating, I'm going to break the Kennedy case wide open.
01:36:26.000 Got back to New York and they found her dead the next day.
01:36:31.000 Woo! 0.99
01:36:32.000 Her name is Dorothy Kilgallen.
01:36:34.000 She's one of the most famous reporters in New York.
01:36:36.000 And she got an interview with Jack Ruby, and she came out of the interview, and all she'd quote was, I'm going to break the Kennedy case wide open.
01:36:44.000 Yeah, I remember that.
01:36:45.000 And then she was found dead within a week.
01:36:48.000 What's interesting, too, is this idea that Lee Harvey Oswald either acted alone or the government assassinated Kennedy.
01:36:57.000 Do you know of Judith Vary Baker?
01:36:59.000 Why do I know that name?
01:37:00.000 Well, she was Oswald's girlfriend in New Orleans, and she's written a book called Lee and Me.
01:37:07.000 Great book.
01:37:08.000 See, Lee was going to divorce his wife, and her and Judith were going to get together.
01:37:15.000 That's what she says.
01:37:17.000 That's what she says, but it adds up because they weren't living together at that time.
01:37:24.000 This is all the different people that died untimely deaths. 0.99
01:37:27.000 This is fucking crazy. 0.99
01:37:30.000 It's all heart attack, unknown, what do we got here? 1.00
01:37:36.000 Drug overdose.
01:37:36.000 Well, the one that's really the bad one is the guy who was in the tower there at the train thing.
01:37:42.000 Suicide, suicide, suicide.
01:37:44.000 They found him dead.
01:37:46.000 Minor accident, minor accident, dead.
01:37:48.000 One car crash, dead.
01:37:50.000 Heart attack, heart attack. 1.00
01:37:51.000 And these fuckers died quick. 1.00
01:37:53.000 This is what's interesting. 1.00
01:37:54.000 They all died within a very short amount of time.
01:37:56.000 Gunshot wound to the head.
01:37:58.000 Well, you know what Judith was involved in, and Oswald, they were at New Orleans attempting to create a fast-moving cancer that Lee was supposed to deliver to Mexico City to try to kill Castro. 0.58
01:38:11.000 A fast-moving cancer?
01:38:13.000 And what killed Ruby?
01:38:15.000 A fast-moving cancer.
01:38:17.000 Yeah, I guess.
01:38:18.000 And you know who's in charge of it all?
01:38:19.000 That guy that's on all the New Orleans Saints football?
01:38:23.000 Who's the famous doctor?
01:38:25.000 The Ochsner Clinic?
01:38:26.000 That's who Judy worked for.
01:38:28.000 The cancer expert.
01:38:30.000 They can give you cancer?
01:38:31.000 No, they were attempting to create a fast-moving cancer And you think they give that to Jack Ruby?
01:38:38.000 Yeah, because they were attempting to kill Castro with it.
01:38:43.000 Now, do you think that Lee Harvey Oswald was involved?
01:38:46.000 I think Lee Harvey Oswald was an undercover operative of our U.S. intelligence agency, yes.
01:38:53.000 You think he was involved in the assassination attempt?
01:38:56.000 Maybe, or he was involved or thought he was stopping it.
01:39:01.000 Because Oswald loved Kennedy.
01:39:06.000 Oswald liked Kennedy.
01:39:08.000 He didn't dislike him.
01:39:09.000 It's a crazy story.
01:39:10.000 So why would he kill him?
01:39:13.000 And why would he use a weapon when you can get any weapon in Texas?
01:39:17.000 Why would he use one that had a paper trail on it?
01:39:20.000 What's interesting to me about this story, too...
01:39:23.000 Anyway, though, enough of Kennedy.
01:39:24.000 But I just want one thing.
01:39:25.000 It shows how uncomfortable people are with embracing the possibility of corruption to the extent where they would kill the president.
01:39:34.000 It shows me why Jesse Ventura at times is not popular.
01:39:40.000 Why do you talk about yourself in the third person like Roy Jones?
01:39:44.000 Because he is a third person.
01:39:47.000 Because he is a third person.
01:39:48.000 Jesse Ventura is not you?
01:39:50.000 No.
01:39:50.000 Who are you?
01:39:51.000 That's my business.
01:39:52.000 Oh, okay.
01:39:53.000 You're Superman, right?
01:39:54.000 Yeah.
01:39:55.000 Anyway, no.
01:39:57.000 Does your wife call you Superman or Jesse? 1.00
01:40:00.000 No.
01:40:00.000 She calls me honey, usually.
01:40:02.000 Oh, that's sweet.
01:40:03.000 After 41 years, at least she's not swearing at me.
01:40:06.000 There you go.
01:40:07.000 Good job.
01:40:08.000 You've done something right.
01:40:09.000 Anyway, you lost my train of thought now where I was heading to.
01:40:13.000 I forgot where I was going anyway.
01:40:15.000 I don't remember anyway.
01:40:16.000 Yeah.
01:40:16.000 It doesn't matter.
01:40:17.000 Do you partake of marijuana yourself?
01:40:20.000 Only in Colorado.
01:40:21.000 Only in Colorado.
01:40:22.000 What about California?
01:40:23.000 Only in Colorado.
01:40:25.000 Look at this right here, buddy.
01:40:26.000 I might in California.
01:40:28.000 This is liquid.
01:40:30.000 It's a spray.
01:40:31.000 Spray it under your tongue.
01:40:33.000 This is liquid, too, but it's not as powerful.
01:40:35.000 This one will put you on Pluto.
01:40:37.000 You've got to be very careful with this one.
01:40:38.000 I made some mistakes.
01:40:40.000 I only partake where it's legal.
01:40:44.000 It's legal here.
01:40:44.000 No, it ain't.
01:40:45.000 It's only medical.
01:40:46.000 I'll get you a doctor.
01:40:46.000 He'll be here in five minutes.
01:40:48.000 Well, until you do that, I'm not legal.
01:40:52.000 You follow all the laws?
01:40:53.000 We could do it online.
01:40:54.000 I have to.
01:40:55.000 Yeah, you could do it online now.
01:40:56.000 You could do it online here.
01:40:57.000 Can you?
01:40:57.000 All you have to do is go...
01:40:58.000 Oh, I know how I could get it.
01:41:01.000 You know how I could do it.
01:41:02.000 You know how I could do it.
01:41:03.000 How?
01:41:03.000 I'm a veteran.
01:41:04.000 Yes.
01:41:05.000 I get dreams, and I can't sleep at night.
01:41:07.000 Well, also, you've had hip replacement, right?
01:41:10.000 Yep.
01:41:10.000 Yeah, well, there you go.
01:41:12.000 That's pain.
01:41:12.000 I actually had the new technique, though, called hip resurfacing.
01:41:15.000 So what do they do there?
01:41:16.000 It was new at the time in 08. I learned it from a neighbor in Mexico who was a triathlete.
01:41:22.000 And he said, all the triathletes that get hip trouble get this.
01:41:25.000 The difference is they still cut you and they still dislocate your hip, but they don't cut the femur.
01:41:30.000 Oh, okay.
01:41:31.000 They clean up the ball and socket, cover them with carbon titanium steel, and put you back together just like resurfacing the road.
01:41:37.000 Oh.
01:41:37.000 Putting a new layer of asphalt.
01:41:39.000 So my femur bone's completely intact.
01:41:42.000 Oh, that's so much better.
01:41:43.000 Way better.
01:41:44.000 Less evasive.
01:41:45.000 Way, way, way better.
01:41:46.000 And so I actually now, I do over a marathon a week on the elliptic machine every week.
01:41:52.000 That's incredible.
01:41:53.000 So you don't have any pain at all from that?
01:41:54.000 No.
01:41:54.000 Wow.
01:41:55.000 In fact, a week ago I did 41 miles that week.
01:41:59.000 That's amazing.
01:42:00.000 No restricting of your movement, nothing?
01:42:02.000 Well, I'm 65. When I sit down in a chair, I tighten up, and when I get up, it's like, ugh, you get aches and bone.
01:42:10.000 Do you notice that your back feels good in these?
01:42:12.000 These are the really good, contoured, ergonomic chairs?
01:42:15.000 For me, it also was, I didn't learn until I got to Mexico with a physical therapist.
01:42:20.000 During my wrestling career, I had actually knocked my pelvis out of alignment.
01:42:25.000 Oh, wow.
01:42:25.000 And he said, that's what's giving you your back trouble.
01:42:27.000 So he gave me a bunch of stretches to do where I got my pelvis back in alignment. 1.00
01:42:32.000 And between that, and I'll make a plug here. 0.51
01:42:34.000 Do you ever watch on TV those teeter hangers?
01:42:38.000 Yeah.
01:42:38.000 They're phenomenal.
01:42:39.000 Got them in the back.
01:42:40.000 Oh.
01:42:41.000 Love them.
01:42:41.000 They're a godsend.
01:42:42.000 Yeah.
01:42:43.000 I do it every day for 10 to 12 minutes.
01:42:46.000 I hang upside down, and I play golf.
01:42:49.000 I haven't been back to the chiropractor in two years because of that.
01:42:54.000 Yeah, they're excellent.
01:42:55.000 Every day, every day at the end of my workout, I hang up and down like Dracula or like a bat.
01:43:01.000 And you actually get so comfortable, you go into kind of a limbo, you know, where you're almost, it's a conscious thing.
01:43:10.000 You're conscious, but you're not hanging upside down.
01:43:14.000 Yeah, you're blacking out.
01:43:15.000 Well, not blacking out, you're just so relaxed.
01:43:18.000 Yeah, no, I do it all the time.
01:43:20.000 Yeah, oh, and I tell people, this thing is a godsend.
01:43:24.000 If he called me, I'd do ads for him.
01:43:26.000 Well, it is a legitimate way to decompress your spine without machining it.
01:43:30.000 It's healthy.
01:43:32.000 I talked to a doctor once and said, your muscles are holding you in place.
01:43:36.000 I'm like, no, they're not.
01:43:37.000 I relax my muscles.
01:43:39.000 I know how to relax my muscles.
01:43:40.000 I'm an athlete.
01:43:41.000 I know when my muscles are tense and when they're not.
01:43:43.000 You can absolutely get some relief and decompression of your spine.
01:43:47.000 When I get full upside down, then I mentally go, okay, relax your feet.
01:43:52.000 Relax your ankles.
01:43:54.000 I go through my whole body until I get all the way to the shoulders and the neck.
01:43:59.000 I'm going to show you a machine that I have back there.
01:44:01.000 And then when I hang, I'm totally relaxed, and sometimes you actually feel yourself slip right back in.
01:44:09.000 And then you go, ah.
01:44:11.000 I have one for my neck, too.
01:44:12.000 Do you?
01:44:12.000 Yeah, I have one.
01:44:13.000 It's like a harness.
01:44:14.000 It straps to a door, and I pull on it, click, click, click, click, click, and I'm literally hanging by my neck.
01:44:20.000 It's a spinal decompression device.
01:44:22.000 Now, that's not one of them sexual things, is it?
01:44:24.000 No, I'm not into that, man.
01:44:25.000 Okay.
01:44:26.000 No, I had a bulging disc in my neck.
01:44:29.000 Okay.
01:44:29.000 And I relieved it that way.
01:44:31.000 It made a huge, huge difference.
01:44:32.000 Like I said, you know, I got the aches and pains of a 65-year-old.
01:44:36.000 I've had my hip done.
01:44:38.000 I stopped running because my orthopedic surgeon says no one over 40 should. 0.97
01:44:43.000 Really?
01:44:43.000 The pounding.
01:44:45.000 My friend's 49. He just ran 200 miles.
01:44:47.000 The pounding.
01:44:48.000 Ultramarathon.
01:44:49.000 The pounding.
01:44:50.000 It ain't that he can't do it, but he's going to pay the price.
01:44:54.000 The pounding of his body.
01:44:56.000 Like this Dr. Truesdale told me, today, with the technology they got, you can run without pounding.
01:45:02.000 Right, with elliptical machines.
01:45:03.000 Yeah, I'm a big fan of the elliptical machines.
01:45:05.000 He said it's the pounding.
01:45:06.000 It's not that you can't do it.
01:45:08.000 Anyone can do it and trample, but he said the wear that that's going to cause on your body after age 40. And I have to agree, he's the preeminent orthopedic surgeon in the Mayo Clinic.
01:45:19.000 Well, you know, there's also another issue, and it's the creation of the running shoe.
01:45:23.000 Because the running shoe, having that big wedge in the heel, that's not a normal gait.
01:45:26.000 The normal gait is you're supposed to land on the ball of your feet.
01:45:29.000 If you watch little kids run, that's how they run.
01:45:31.000 But when they created the running shoe, they allowed people to run and have all their weight come down on their heel, and it acts as sort of like a little spring.
01:45:38.000 But that's not normal.
01:45:40.000 Your body has a natural spring built into it.
01:45:42.000 It's the design of the foot.
01:45:44.000 Or you can do the natural way the seals do.
01:45:47.000 How do they do it?
01:45:48.000 You run in the sand.
01:45:49.000 That's great, too.
01:45:50.000 Yeah.
01:45:51.000 That is the best way, right?
01:45:53.000 And even worse, when they take you in the soft sand.
01:45:56.000 The dunes.
01:45:57.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:45:57.000 Oh, sand dune running is fucking amazing. 0.99
01:46:00.000 There was an old chief there. 0.98
01:46:02.000 We used to call him Superman.
01:46:04.000 He was 41 years old when I was in the teams.
01:46:08.000 41. And the softer the sand, the faster he got.
01:46:14.000 Oh, we used to call him the Camel.
01:46:16.000 That was his nickname.
01:46:18.000 He was a Chief, but we called him the Camel because when we'd hit the soft sand running, normally in our team he was probably in the top six in running.
01:46:27.000 When we'd hit the soft sand, he was up first or second.
01:46:30.000 Why is that?
01:46:31.000 I don't know.
01:46:32.000 He could just run in the soft sand and it didn't slow him down.
01:46:35.000 Did he have like big wide flipper feet or something?
01:46:37.000 No, he was actually a little wiry built guy.
01:46:40.000 He also, he was able, we had this big rope.
01:46:43.000 He could wear a pair of twin 90 tanks for diving and he'd pull himself up to the top of this rope just using his hands.
01:46:52.000 90 pounds?
01:46:53.000 No, he's twin 90s.
01:46:54.000 How much those weigh?
01:46:56.000 I don't know, but they're heavy.
01:46:57.000 Wow.
01:46:58.000 They're heavy as hell.
01:46:59.000 They're the old twin 90 scuba tanks.
01:47:03.000 They're big old metal tanks.
01:47:06.000 Yeah.
01:47:07.000 And he used to go up that rope using just his hands.
01:47:10.000 That's a strength.
01:47:11.000 They're wiry built.
01:47:12.000 Not a big muscle guy, just wiry built.
01:47:14.000 We called him Superman.
01:47:16.000 That was his nickname in the teams.
01:47:18.000 He led PT every day.
01:47:21.000 You do PT with him, it was like in training unit.
01:47:23.000 Every set of push-ups, 50. Every time you do push-ups with him, it's 50. 50 a pop, and you probably do at least 10 to 12 sets.
01:47:36.000 That's great for tearing your shoulders apart.
01:47:38.000 600 push-ups a day, then you'll do a thousand flutter kicks. 0.69
01:47:42.000 What's a flutter kick?
01:47:44.000 Lay on your back and flutter kick.
01:47:46.000 That sounds like a good time.
01:47:48.000 That, along with running up sand dunes, that's a party.
01:47:52.000 Oof.
01:47:53.000 Running sand dunes, if you really want to suffer.
01:47:55.000 And then the other thing in training they don't account for...
01:47:57.000 What?
01:47:58.000 You have to run to run.
01:48:00.000 Every time you're moving in Bud's training, you have to be running.
01:48:06.000 You have to run to run.
01:48:07.000 Yeah, like when you run out on the beach, but you have to run to get there, and then you have to run to get back.
01:48:13.000 Those don't count.
01:48:14.000 When you do a four-mile beach run, it only counts on the beach.
01:48:17.000 It doesn't count the run to get there and the run to get back, the run to the chow hall, the run to anywhere.
01:48:23.000 When you're in BUDS training from the time you start in the morning till they secure you, you have to be running any time you're moving.
01:48:31.000 Oh, Jesus.
01:48:32.000 But you do it as the airborne shuffle.
01:48:34.000 That's kind of that shuffle run, where you're running, but you're not really running.
01:48:39.000 Kind of jogging.
01:48:40.000 Yeah.
01:48:41.000 You're just hustling.
01:48:42.000 Yeah.
01:48:42.000 They call it the airborne shuffle, because that's what you do at jump school.
01:48:46.000 What led you to want to write this book, this marijuana book?
01:48:51.000 The experience I had with the seizures, that's what motivated me because I knew there's other people out there suffering.
01:48:58.000 Our government should not be standing in the way and stopping people from using a plant that could help them.
01:49:06.000 And it's time to end this ridiculous prohibition.
01:49:10.000 My mother, who lived through the prohibition of alcohol, told me before she died, she said, the war on drugs is identical to the prohibition of alcohol.
01:49:19.000 All you're doing is making criminals rich and powerful.
01:49:22.000 And it's also, there's an industry in keeping people in jail, and there's an industry in catching people and locking them up.
01:49:28.000 Exactly.
01:49:28.000 And losing your rights.
01:49:30.000 Losing your rights, imprisoning people, and when you find out that there's prison guard unions that are lobbying to keep marijuana illegal so they have more work, it's terrible.
01:49:38.000 It's horrible.
01:49:39.000 It's horrible, and they don't think of it as horrible.
01:49:41.000 We've got to change perception.
01:49:42.000 And you've got the DEA, who's out there making money off keeping it illegal.
01:49:47.000 And you know what you do?
01:49:48.000 They're doing it to fight for their jobs, but I've already got another position for them.
01:49:52.000 What?
01:49:53.000 Let's end the war on drugs, let's take the DEA, and let's make the DEA put as much effort into sexual crimes. 1.00
01:50:05.000 Like what kind of sexual crimes? 0.56
01:50:07.000 Molesting children.
01:50:09.000 We just went through one in Minnesota, Jacob Wetterling, where they finally caught his murderer, but he's not going to go to prison for murdering because he plea bargained.
01:50:20.000 What happened?
01:50:21.000 You know the famous Jacob Wetterling case?
01:50:24.000 I'm not aware of that case.
01:50:25.000 It happened way back 20-some years ago where him and his friends were going to the video store and a guy took him at gunpoint and he disappeared.
01:50:33.000 The Minnesota Vikings wore his thing on their uniform and it was a whole national thing.
01:50:40.000 When Jacob Wetterling was abducted, well, they just discovered his dead body a month ago because they caught the guy who did it, but he wouldn't confess unless he got immunity.
01:50:51.000 So they had to give him immunity, and then he led them to the body so they could get closure over 20-some years ago.
01:50:59.000 So he got immunity to that, but is he getting prosecuted for something else?
01:51:02.000 He's getting prosecuted for child porn.
01:51:04.000 That's it?
01:51:05.000 Yep.
01:51:06.000 Now, I say you take the DEA and you put them out catching child molesters and sexual predators.
01:51:15.000 That would be a good job for them to do.
01:51:18.000 It would be a good job for them to do, but I don't think there's nearly as many people that are molesting children as are smoking pot.
01:51:25.000 Well, the problem might be they might have to investigate the Catholic Church, and that'd be off-limits, wouldn't it?
01:51:32.000 Well, how about that Dennis?
01:51:33.000 You want a good one?
01:51:34.000 Here's a good one.
01:51:35.000 I love good ones.
01:51:36.000 My club, the Mongols, we got busted for the federal RICO laws, right?
01:51:42.000 How come they don't apply the federal RICO laws to the Catholic Church?
01:51:47.000 It's a good call.
01:51:48.000 Yeah.
01:51:48.000 How come they don't?
01:51:50.000 Child molestation's a felony.
01:51:52.000 They covered it up.
01:51:54.000 They lied about it.
01:51:55.000 They continue to do it.
01:51:57.000 How come the church hasn't been investigated under the federal RICO laws and charged?
01:52:03.000 It's a very good question.
01:52:04.000 Because they're the church, that's why.
01:52:06.000 And you're not allowed to.
01:52:08.000 Well, that's also why they hide them up in the Vatican, because the Vatican's its own country.
01:52:12.000 I don't know.
01:52:13.000 I'm not into all that.
01:52:14.000 I'm just saying that how come the RICO laws don't apply to the child molestation that's gone on?
01:52:21.000 Well, it's a very good point.
01:52:22.000 It's a very good point.
01:52:23.000 When Pope Benedict resigned, that was one of the things that they were going after.
01:52:27.000 They wanted to prosecute him for crimes against humanity because this guy was shielding child molesters. 0.95
01:52:32.000 He shielded a child molester that went on to rape 100 deaf kids. 1.00
01:52:36.000 I mean, what in the fuck? 1.00
01:52:38.000 And this guy targeted deaf children because they couldn't talk about it. 1.00
01:52:41.000 And now they stick them in the Vatican, and once you're in the Vatican, the Vatican is protected.
01:52:46.000 It's literally got its own situation where it's like a country.
01:52:50.000 Yeah.
01:52:51.000 Yeah.
01:52:51.000 Well, I mean, I still don't think there's as many people doing that as there are selling and buying drugs.
01:52:57.000 Maybe not, but what has the worst effect?
01:53:02.000 100%.
01:53:02.000 I agree with you.
01:53:03.000 Because I know people that were molested and never recovered from it.
01:53:07.000 Their entire lives have been altered.
01:53:11.000 And it goes for generations.
01:53:13.000 Because generally you find the molester was molested.
01:53:17.000 Yeah, always, yeah.
01:53:18.000 You know, usually that's the situation.
01:53:22.000 So I would rather take our focus away from people doing consensual crime against themselves because addiction shouldn't be treated criminally.
01:53:32.000 It should be treated medically.
01:53:34.000 I mean, you can be addicted.
01:53:36.000 I always like to use this for an example.
01:53:40.000 Imagine tomorrow if they took away coffee and caffeine.
01:53:45.000 Oh, yeah.
01:53:45.000 We'd have rides on the streets.
01:53:46.000 Well, there you go.
01:53:47.000 And those are all addicts.
01:53:49.000 People addicted to it.
01:53:50.000 What are you trying to say, man?
01:53:52.000 No, they're addicted to it.
01:53:54.000 They're addicted to it.
01:53:55.000 Well, they need to understand that then how dare them say you should take away a drug from someone else.
01:54:02.000 Of course.
01:54:03.000 They have their fix.
01:54:05.000 How come theirs is legal?
01:54:08.000 I also don't think that we have to find jobs for people that are doing something that should be against the law.
01:54:14.000 It should be against the law to arrest people for marijuana.
01:54:16.000 You don't have to find jobs for people that are doing something that should be against the law. 1.00
01:54:20.000 Arresting people for marijuana is a fucking crime. 1.00
01:54:23.000 And I've said this time and time again, but if you lock someone in a cage because they smoke a plant that makes them happy, you're a fucking criminal. 1.00
01:54:30.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:54:30.000 You're a criminal. 1.00
01:54:31.000 You're doing a crime against human beings and freedom. 0.99
01:54:34.000 Yep.
01:54:35.000 And that's what you're participating in.
01:54:37.000 Yep.
01:54:37.000 I agree.
01:54:37.000 So what the DEA is doing is a crime.
01:54:39.000 I don't think we have to find jobs for criminals. 0.98
01:54:41.000 I think the only thing that's saving them from being labeled as a criminal is some shit that's written down on paper by a bunch of people that are profiting from keeping it in that same way. 0.98
01:54:49.000 Yep. 0.99
01:54:50.000 It's a crime.
01:54:51.000 It's all a crime.
01:54:51.000 Yep.
01:54:52.000 And there's nothing, zero, zilch, when you're talking about the side effects or the negative effects of cannabis.
01:55:00.000 There's nothing.
01:55:01.000 There's zero.
01:55:01.000 There's no evidence.
01:55:02.000 I agree.
01:55:03.000 And if there was, they would parade it out there.
01:55:05.000 And even if they did parade it out there, what we're finding time and time again, the most recent story that was in the New York Times about the sugar industry paying off scientists to say that sugar is okay for you, but it's saturated fat.
01:55:16.000 Saturated fat, which is so important that it's one of the main substrates for creating sex hormones.
01:55:21.000 It's one of the most important parts of human diet that saturated fat is bad, and that's what's giving people heart attacks. 0.99
01:55:27.000 Meanwhile, people are getting fat as fuck from sugar. 0.98
01:55:30.000 I love to talk about this, which came to light to me 10 years ago. 0.99
01:55:36.000 I grew up in the 50s when they put fluoride in our water.
01:55:41.000 Wait, and they put it in there for our teeth. 0.98
01:55:43.000 Well, isn't that your parents' job to teach you how to brush your teeth and gargle with fluoridated mouthwash?
01:55:49.000 Is there any benefit of fluoride?
01:55:51.000 Wait, why would you put a chemical in the water?
01:55:53.000 Yeah, there's a benefit.
01:55:54.000 I'll explain it.
01:55:56.000 Who do you think was the first people to put fluoride in water?
01:56:00.000 The Nazis. 0.71
01:56:01.000 Yep.
01:56:01.000 Now, why did they do that?
01:56:02.000 Now, first of all, I'd question anything the Nazis did right away.
01:56:06.000 I'd say, well, gee, they don't have really people in mind, do they?
01:56:09.000 They were really good at making engines.
01:56:11.000 Well, that they were.
01:56:13.000 But, no, they did it because fluoride is the major ingredient of Prozac.
01:56:21.000 So you think that fluoride in the water makes people docile?
01:56:26.000 You're getting a daily dose of Prozac.
01:56:29.000 Why would the Nazis do it?
01:56:32.000 What would be the only reason?
01:56:34.000 I don't know why they did it.
01:56:35.000 To make the people docile.
01:56:36.000 But did they do it in a large-scale fashion, or did they do it as an experiment? 0.98
01:56:40.000 Because they did a lot of fucked-up experiments. 0.94
01:56:42.000 Well, no, they put it in their water. 0.98
01:56:44.000 Germany was the first country that put fluoride in the water under the Nazi rule.
01:56:50.000 And did they have a reason?
01:56:51.000 And then we picked it up for their teeth, I guess.
01:56:53.000 That was why they did it?
01:56:54.000 I don't know.
01:56:55.000 But that's what we sold our people.
01:56:58.000 I remember.
01:56:58.000 And here, did you see the movie Fargo?
01:57:01.000 Yes.
01:57:02.000 Remember the town Brainerd?
01:57:03.000 Yes.
01:57:04.000 Well, Brainerd, Minnesota, about 30 years ago, I remember it.
01:57:08.000 They voted.
01:57:09.000 They did not want fluoride in their water.
01:57:12.000 They weren't going to put it in.
01:57:14.000 Federal government came in and made them.
01:57:16.000 Why do you think they did that?
01:57:18.000 Is the fluoride industry paying them off?
01:57:19.000 I don't know.
01:57:20.000 Because they want to get rid of fluoride?
01:57:21.000 Why would the federal government come into a city who their own water supply and force them to put fluoride in the water?
01:57:32.000 Well, do you think they did it because the fluoride industry paid them off?
01:57:36.000 I don't know.
01:57:37.000 Because they didn't want to lose profits?
01:57:38.000 I don't know.
01:57:38.000 It doesn't make sense, really.
01:57:39.000 Or did they not want an example that you can have water without fluoride?
01:57:45.000 It's possible.
01:57:45.000 But if they really wanted to protect people from tooth decay, wouldn't they go after sugar?
01:57:50.000 Or is it like Vince McMahon?
01:57:52.000 He fired me because I wouldn't relinquish my copyrighted name so he could exploit it.
01:57:59.000 I owned it and I refused to give it up.
01:58:02.000 The copyrighted name, Jesse the Body Ventura?
01:58:04.000 Jesse the Body Ventura.
01:58:05.000 I had it before I worked for them, and I copyrighted it federally so that I would own it, and I wouldn't release it to him, and that's what ended up getting me fired in the end, where I had to leave the WWF, because he had to control all of the marketing of all of us.
01:58:22.000 That's old school, before WWE. Oh yeah.
01:58:26.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know why fluoride is in the water.
01:58:29.000 I've looked at it Very peripherally.
01:58:32.000 No reason for it, really.
01:58:33.000 They tell you it's for your teeth, but shouldn't you do that yourself? 0.96
01:58:37.000 Well, not my thinking is, if they really were concerned about people's teeth and people's health, wouldn't they look at all the different fucking kinds of sugar that we're consuming? 0.90
01:58:45.000 All the corn syrup in people's diet. 0.98
01:58:47.000 All the sugar in the foods.
01:58:48.000 Well, that should tell you the fluoride's there for another reason, then.
01:58:51.000 So you think there's a large-scale organized conspiracy to keep people docile by putting Florida in the water?
01:58:59.000 I don't know if it's a large-scale conspiracy or if it was just done and it's too difficult to unchange it.
01:59:06.000 See, once government gets established doing something and it's done for decades, it's very hard to get them to change their position.
01:59:15.000 And is it in some ways a lot like the DEA in that once fluoride is a business, is a business in selling fluoride, putting fluoride in the water, there's people that have jobs that are doing that, they lobby to keep that in place, and what evidence is there that fluoride's beneficial?
01:59:30.000 Is there any evidence?
01:59:32.000 I don't know.
01:59:33.000 You don't know?
01:59:34.000 But if you know about this, why don't you look into that?
01:59:36.000 Because I don't drink fluoridated water, so it doesn't affect me.
01:59:40.000 Mexico doesn't have fluoridated water?
01:59:41.000 Do you drink out of a well?
01:59:42.000 Yeah.
01:59:43.000 And in all my homes...
01:59:44.000 See, I only learned of this a decade ago, but ironically, all the homes I've lived in have been kind of rural and I've had my own well.
01:59:53.000 All your life?
01:59:54.000 Pretty much.
01:59:55.000 Other than when I grew up as a kid.
01:59:56.000 Maybe that's why you're so rebellious.
01:59:58.000 Yeah.
01:59:58.000 You didn't get your dose of fluoride.
01:59:59.000 Exactly.
02:00:00.000 That's why I ask questions and stuff.
02:00:02.000 I haven't been Prozac-aided.
02:00:06.000 I'm not on the Prozac. 0.99
02:00:08.000 Well, it didn't work with me, because I drank a lot of fucking fluorided water. 0.98
02:00:11.000 I'm... 0.98
02:00:12.000 Well, maybe your constitution's different than mine.
02:00:15.000 I don't know.
02:00:16.000 Maybe I'm just better.
02:00:16.000 They say it calcifies your pineal gland, but the people that say that, they all smell.
02:00:21.000 They all smell like natural deodorant and feet. 1.00
02:00:24.000 Those motherfuckers. 1.00
02:00:25.000 Like I said, Brainerd tried to do it, and the federal government came in and just slapped him down. 1.00
02:00:32.000 It didn't matter the people voted.
02:00:33.000 It didn't matter nothing.
02:00:35.000 Federal government came in and said, you will have fluoride in your water.
02:00:39.000 What year was this?
02:00:40.000 I think it was back in about the 80s.
02:00:42.000 I wonder if that would fly today because people today are so concerned with genetically modified foods and hormones and meat.
02:00:48.000 Oh, I think they'd still do it today because you still got it.
02:00:51.000 Nobody's ever said nothing like, why don't we remove fluoride from the water?
02:00:58.000 Yeah, I don't know.
02:00:59.000 I mean...
02:01:00.000 Nobody brings it up.
02:01:02.000 Yeah, I don't even know if fluoride is beneficial in toothpaste.
02:01:05.000 There's a lot of people that don't believe fluoride should be in toothpaste.
02:01:07.000 They think that the cleaning of your teeth is really what gets the plaque off.
02:01:13.000 Who knows?
02:01:13.000 Yeah, who knows?
02:01:14.000 Someone must know.
02:01:15.000 It's the major ingredient of Prozac.
02:01:18.000 I'm going to go looking into that now. 0.99
02:01:20.000 God damn it, another rabbit hole. 0.99
02:01:21.000 I've got to be whitewashed. 1.00
02:01:23.000 I've got to go down a Prozac rabbit hole.
02:01:26.000 Prozac fluoride rabbit hole.
02:01:27.000 Fluoride.
02:01:28.000 But when you think about it, why would they put it for your teeth?
02:01:32.000 Your parents do that.
02:01:34.000 They teach you how to brush your teeth and use mouthwash.
02:01:36.000 Why would you put a chemical in the water?
02:01:38.000 That's a good point.
02:01:39.000 Why would a chemical be introduced into clean drinking water?
02:01:43.000 Well, not only that, there's a lot of people that don't even drink water from the faucet anymore.
02:01:48.000 You know, a lot of people use the faucet water for bathing and cooking and they drink bottled water.
02:01:53.000 Yeah.
02:01:54.000 Well, that's another scam they pulled on us.
02:01:55.000 The bottled water scam?
02:01:57.000 Yeah.
02:01:57.000 Completely.
02:01:58.000 I did it in conspiracy theory.
02:01:59.000 We went up to Michigan where Nestle is.
02:02:02.000 Yeah, they take water. 0.63
02:02:03.000 Well, the law says you cannot take water from the Great Lakes.
02:02:07.000 Right.
02:02:07.000 And the Great Lakes region is 20% of the fresh water of the world.
02:02:12.000 So Nestle goes up there and builds a million square foot plant.
02:02:16.000 The thing's huge.
02:02:17.000 It's bigger than our dome stadium for the Vikings.
02:02:21.000 We're good to go.
02:02:43.000 Just because of Nestle?
02:02:44.000 Yeah, they're sucking it all out of the ground before it can get to the Great Lakes and they're putting it in plastic bottles and selling it to you more expensive than gas.
02:02:53.000 Oh, it is more expensive than gas.
02:02:54.000 Because bottled water costs more than gas. 0.99
02:02:56.000 Isn't that fucking bananas? 0.99
02:02:57.000 And imagine if you've got a company and you sell a product that's free... 0.99
02:03:01.000 And you don't have to do nothing to it but put it into a bottle and sell it for more than gas.
02:03:07.000 Because they persuaded us it was the only way to consume water.
02:03:11.000 Like when I was a kid, you'd go to the schoolyard and play football all day on the way home.
02:03:16.000 You'd run up to somebody's hose.
02:03:18.000 You'd turn it on and everybody would drink out of the hose.
02:03:22.000 We didn't die.
02:03:24.000 Nobody got sick.
02:03:25.000 We survived.
02:03:27.000 Yet all of a sudden, here came bottle.
02:03:29.000 Water had to be bottled.
02:03:31.000 And it was a whole thing they did on people.
02:03:35.000 The only pure, clear water you're going to get comes from a bottle.
02:03:39.000 Well, it ain't.
02:03:40.000 They're pumping it out of the ground the same way as they pump anything else out of the ground.
02:03:44.000 They're just putting it into a bottle and selling it to you for more than gasoline.
02:03:49.000 Your friend is interrupting here.
02:03:51.000 What would you like?
02:03:52.000 I gotta go.
02:03:53.000 This is the reason why I don't let people in the studio, Jesse.
02:03:56.000 Yeah, but I gotta schedule.
02:03:57.000 I know you do.
02:03:58.000 You have a hard out at 115. Your book, it's available now?
02:04:03.000 Yeah, everywhere.
02:04:04.000 It came out, I think, on the 6th.
02:04:05.000 And you're going to be at Barnes& Noble in Santa Monica today?
02:04:07.000 Tonight at 7.30.
02:04:09.000 And people can come meet you and explain to you why fluoride is in the water.
02:04:13.000 They're going to go crazy.
02:04:14.000 Yeah, they can do all that stuff, and we can talk and visit, and I'll weave a few stories in.
02:04:22.000 The only thing I worry about, every book signing I do, I get pleads from people on why I'm not running.
02:04:31.000 Well, I'm pleading.
02:04:32.000 I'm pleading.
02:04:33.000 Look, somebody needs to run that's not corrupted by the system, and I don't think you're corrupted by the system.
02:04:38.000 Then there's only me.
02:04:39.000 Yeah, well, I think there's probably a few other people that are thinking right now, but they don't want this exposure.
02:04:43.000 As I said, I only raised $300,000 to become the governor of Minnesota.
02:04:48.000 Right, but that's Minnesota.
02:04:49.000 I mean, I think my dog might be able to win governor.
02:04:51.000 Not really, because the Dems and Repuffs spent $12 million that year.
02:04:56.000 They spent $12 million.
02:04:58.000 But you're Jesse Ventura.
02:04:59.000 You're famous.
02:04:59.000 I spent $300,000.
02:05:01.000 Yeah, but I had to go through the media of them degrading me.
02:05:06.000 How could a wrestler be a governor?
02:05:09.000 Right.
02:05:10.000 Of course.
02:05:10.000 How could somebody from the private sector who's never come up through the corrupt system be expected to govern?
02:05:18.000 Right.
02:05:18.000 But also, don't you think it helps that you have an awesome Minnesota accent?
02:05:21.000 I don't know if I do or not.
02:05:23.000 You definitely do.
02:05:24.000 Oh, I don't know.
02:05:25.000 My friend Randall Carlson is also...
02:05:27.000 If you're from Minnesota, you don't know it.
02:05:29.000 My friend Randall Carlson...
02:05:30.000 It's like being from Alabama. 0.83
02:05:31.000 You don't have an accent if you're from Alabama. 1.00
02:05:34.000 Oh, they fucking know. 1.00
02:05:34.000 They have to know. 1.00
02:05:36.000 My friend Randall Carlson sounds exactly like you, and he's from Minnesota.
02:05:39.000 Yeah.
02:05:40.000 Exactly.
02:05:40.000 You have a very clear Minnesota accent.
02:05:42.000 Yeah, we have it, and I'm born and raised there, but I don't know how to skate.
02:05:46.000 You don't have a skate?
02:05:47.000 I don't either.
02:05:48.000 Good for you.
02:05:49.000 I'm down.
02:05:49.000 Well, I did it because in the winter I swam.
02:05:53.000 We have a lot in common, you and me.
02:05:54.000 We both like fanny packs.
02:05:56.000 We both don't know how to skate.
02:05:58.000 We both like pot.
02:05:59.000 I was a swimmer.
02:06:00.000 I could swim.
02:06:01.000 Yeah, no, I did it.
02:06:02.000 I didn't mean all winter and all summer.
02:06:03.000 I was competitive.
02:06:04.000 Now, my claim to fame, I actually swam in the same pool once with Mark Spitz.
02:06:09.000 That's big.
02:06:10.000 Was for me.
02:06:11.000 Because as a swimmer, he was god of our era, and along came Phelps, who I never thought could win more medals than Mark did, but he did.
02:06:19.000 Another guy who likes pot.
02:06:21.000 Yeah.
02:06:21.000 Remember that?
02:06:21.000 He got shamed.
02:06:23.000 They pot-shamed him.
02:06:23.000 Do you know what I would have did if I'd have been him and they did that to me?
02:06:26.000 What would you have done?
02:06:27.000 I would have immediately moved to Australia, applied for Australian citizenship, and I would have came back and beat the United States if they'd have prosecuted me for the pot. 0.54
02:06:37.000 Yeah, but they weren't prosecuting him.
02:06:39.000 They were just being mean.
02:06:40.000 But they thought about it.
02:06:40.000 Did they really?
02:06:41.000 Yes.
02:06:41.000 Who thought about prosecuting it?
02:06:43.000 Yeah, it went on.
02:06:44.000 Who was it?
02:06:44.000 Oh, that's right.
02:06:45.000 Wasn't it like South Carolina? 1.00
02:06:46.000 I don't know, but all I know is if I'd have been Phelps, I would have moved to Australia, I'd applied for Australian citizenship, and I would have come back and swam against the United States and say, stick that up your ass. 1.00
02:06:59.000 Oh, that's very rude of you. 0.99
02:07:01.000 No, it ain't. 0.92
02:07:01.000 You're a renegade. 0.92
02:07:02.000 No, it ain't.
02:07:03.000 It's very rude of them.
02:07:05.000 After winning those medals, don't you think he earned a joint?
02:07:08.000 I do.
02:07:10.000 I do.
02:07:10.000 And you do as well.
02:07:12.000 Yeah, 100%.
02:07:13.000 I mean, they wouldn't have said nothing if he'd have guzzled a bottle of beer. 0.99
02:07:16.000 I want to find out who the fuck narked on him. 0.98
02:07:18.000 We should make that public. 1.00
02:07:20.000 Whoever that shithead is who took the picture of Phelps with a bomb. 0.99
02:07:23.000 Exactly. 1.00
02:07:23.000 Asshole. 1.00
02:07:24.000 Eight arrested in Michael Phelps' case. 0.98
02:07:26.000 What?
02:07:26.000 Yeah.
02:07:27.000 People were arrested that had pot, that gave him pot?
02:07:30.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
02:07:31.000 Did you see that thing about the woman in western Massachusetts or near Amherst?
02:07:36.000 She's an old lady, and she grew her own medical marijuana. 1.00
02:07:39.000 Her son was in the house, and a SWAT team showed up, guns blazing for one plant.
02:07:45.000 One plant in this woman's backyard. 1.00
02:07:47.000 That's how fucking ridiculous these laws are. 1.00
02:07:49.000 I'll tell you how ridiculous they are. 0.99
02:07:51.000 When I was governor, and we'll finish with this, when I was governor, we had a three-panel, myself, Kathleen Blatz, who was head of the Minnesota Supreme Court, and the Attorney General. 0.95
02:08:02.000 The three of us were the pardon board, where we could sponge records, right?
02:08:08.000 And I was glad they thought like me, because everybody that came to us that had a marijuana conviction of 10, 20 years ago, we cleaned it off.
02:08:18.000 And one of them I'll always remember.
02:08:20.000 Wait till you hear this story.
02:08:22.000 This guy...
02:08:24.000 When he sat down in front of us, the first thing I did, I looked at him, I said, how are you and your sister getting along?
02:08:30.000 And he smiled at me and says, we're okay.
02:08:33.000 I said, okay, I just wanted to check.
02:08:35.000 You know what happened to this guy?
02:08:36.000 He was 18 years old at home.
02:08:39.000 His little sister was going to D.A.R.E. at the time.
02:08:43.000 You know that D.A.R.E. class?
02:08:45.000 Well, they teach you a D.A.R.E. to turn everyone in.
02:08:48.000 To rat everybody.
02:08:49.000 Turn them in.
02:08:50.000 So this guy's got a bag of weed in his bedroom.
02:08:54.000 His little sister sees it, calls the police.
02:08:59.000 The police come.
02:09:01.000 She's there to let him in so they don't need a warrant, and they go bust her brother.
02:09:07.000 She ends up, her brother, and her brother now has had this on his record for 20 frickin' years.
02:09:13.000 A marijuana bust that his sister turned him over on because she was at D.A.R.E., and D.A.R.E. said, you rad everybody.
02:09:23.000 So the sister thinks she's doing the right thing, puts her brother in jail for having a bag of weed in his bedroom.
02:09:31.000 So sad.
02:09:32.000 And that's why I asked him, how are you and your sister getting along?
02:09:35.000 He said, we're fine.
02:09:36.000 And we cleaned his record.
02:09:38.000 We wiped it right off of there.
02:09:40.000 Now, who I wouldn't do that for?
02:09:43.000 Child molesters who came in.
02:09:46.000 I had a girl there who came to testify against this guy so we wouldn't do it. 0.94
02:09:52.000 I called her up to me and I said, young lady, you don't have to come back here anymore. 0.98
02:09:58.000 Because as long as I'm the governor of Minnesota, this guy will never, ever get his record cleaned.
02:10:07.000 You don't have to worry about that.
02:10:09.000 Go home with a clear conscience.
02:10:10.000 You don't have to come back here.
02:10:12.000 It's not going to happen.
02:10:13.000 Because all of them child molesters re-offend.
02:10:16.000 That's why they want their record cleaned off, so that they can get in a position of being a predator again and re-offend again.
02:10:25.000 And they bring in people from the clergy to testify for them and all.
02:10:31.000 They've joined the church now.
02:10:32.000 They do all of this stuff.
02:10:35.000 They ain't pulling that smoke on me.
02:10:37.000 To me, a child molester, they can never be cured.
02:10:42.000 Jesse Ventura for president, 2020. Make it happen, folks.
02:10:46.000 2016 is a wash. 1.00
02:10:47.000 We're fucked either way. 1.00
02:10:48.000 Hang in there for four years. 1.00
02:10:50.000 Four years.
02:10:51.000 I'll tell you what.
02:10:52.000 I'll tell you what.
02:10:53.000 If it ends up that bad, I promise you I will run into 2020. Jesse Ventura for president.
02:10:59.000 Meet him tonight, Santa Monica.
02:11:02.000 Barnes& Noble, 730. Thank you, sir.
02:11:04.000 Thank you.
02:11:04.000 I had a great time.
02:11:05.000 My pleasure.
02:11:06.000 Fun to talk with you.
02:11:07.000 And I'll tell you why else...