The Joe Rogan Experience - October 18, 2016


Joe Rogan Experience #861 - Bryan Callen

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Bryan Callen
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Hillary Clinton Donald Trump Brian Callen Powerful Jamie Bob Dylan Richard Nixon Bernie Sanders William F. Buckley James Baldwin Dan Flores Alex Honnold Heaven Eddie Bravo Frank Rich Boko Haram Mick West Mark Rich David Foster Wallace Brendan Schaub Christy Alley Kirstie Alley and 87 more
Joe Rogan Experience #860 - Russell Peters Joe Rogan Experience #862 - Trevor Valle

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2 hours and 59 minutes

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In this episode, the boys talk about the age old question of whether or not you should be allowed to vote if you're 16 years old, and why it's a good idea that 16 year olds should be able to vote in the presidential election. Also, the guys talk about how to deal with a baby with a boner and why you should never let a baby vote if they're under 21. Also, they talk about what it means to be a grown-up baby and how you become a real adult when you have other people that rely on you and where other people's happiness to some degree is more important than your own. And, of course, there's a special guest appearance from comedian Joe Pesci, who talks about how he's a grown up baby and what it's like being a silly goose and how it's not as bad as you think it is. The boys also talk about why you shouldn't have to be 21 before you can vote and if you should have a driver's license before you're old enough to legally drink. Enjoy! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD, tyops and tyops. Art by Jeff Kaale. Thank you to our sponsor, Zapsplat, for producing this episode of the podcast. Please rate, review, and subscribe to the podcast and tell us what you think of it! Please remember to tell a friend about it on Apple Podcasts! and we'll be looking out for it in the next week. Thank you so we can be sure to send us your thoughts on the next episode of Thick & Thin, and we can have a shoutout on the podcast next week! . . . and also, we'll get a shout-out on Anchor. and a new episode next week of Thick and Thin, too! Timestamps: 8:30 - 8:00 - 9:00 | 8:20 - What do you like it? 11:15 - How do you think you're a grownup baby? 13:00 15:00 // 16: What's a baby's job? 16:30 17:40 - What s a baby should vote? 18:00/16:00 / 17:30 / 18:40 21:40 / 21:30/20: What is a baby s role model?

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00:00:00.000 Two.
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00:00:03.000 Yee-haw! 1.00
00:00:05.000 Just less than a month before Armageddon.
00:00:08.000 And we're here in the bunker in lovely Woodland Hills, California.
00:00:13.000 That's right. 0.98
00:00:13.000 Brian motherfucking Callen is here. 0.98
00:00:16.000 Here he is, ladies and gentlemen. 0.99
00:00:18.000 He's voting for Jill Stein because she, like Brian, wants 16-year-olds to be able to vote for We both think it's super rational and a great idea.
00:00:26.000 Because no one better to decide the future of the world than a hormonally flooded baby. 0.96
00:00:34.000 A baby with a boner. 0.80
00:00:37.000 What do you think about 18 year olds drinking instead of 21?
00:00:40.000 I don't think there's anything wrong with someone who is supervised, who is 18, who is sort of mentored into having a couple of drinks with an intelligent and very disciplined parental figure.
00:00:58.000 Like someone who's a smart dad or a smart mom who says, I don't want you to be...
00:01:04.000 I don't want this to be something that's so out of reach that you wind up doing it and getting obsessed with it because it's the forbidden thing and it becomes a big deal.
00:01:10.000 Yep.
00:01:11.000 Have a drink or two.
00:01:13.000 Right.
00:01:13.000 But they have to be a really conscientious parent.
00:01:16.000 They should be there with the kid.
00:01:18.000 Make sure that no one's driving.
00:01:20.000 Right. 1.00
00:01:20.000 No stupid shit. 1.00
00:01:21.000 But we all had beers before we were 21. All of us. 1.00
00:01:24.000 Everybody did.
00:01:24.000 All of us.
00:01:25.000 I also think that if you're going to give people the responsibility to vote and they can join the army and go and fight and die... 0.99
00:01:31.000 And kill. 0.99
00:01:32.000 You give him a license to kill. 0.99
00:01:33.000 Yes, it seems very strange to me that you're not also allowed to vote.
00:01:37.000 Yeah.
00:01:37.000 And, I mean, I'm sorry, drink.
00:01:39.000 Because it used to be in, I think, 1984 is when the law changed.
00:01:43.000 You were able to drink.
00:01:44.000 Yeah, man.
00:01:45.000 It was like, I missed it by just a few years. 1.00
00:01:48.000 Fuckers. 1.00
00:01:48.000 I didn't, I don't think. 1.00
00:01:50.000 Yeah, you did.
00:01:51.000 Because in 85, I was 17. So that was when I graduated high school.
00:01:57.000 I think I was 18 and 85. By the way, I was drinking in college.
00:02:00.000 Were you?
00:02:01.000 Yeah.
00:02:01.000 Yeah, of course you were.
00:02:02.000 I drank in high school.
00:02:03.000 No, but I could drink in bars in Washington, D.C., I remember.
00:02:05.000 Oh, really?
00:02:06.000 They had different laws?
00:02:07.000 Yeah, I was 18. I was an early 18, January 26th.
00:02:11.000 That's why I'm so mature now.
00:02:12.000 You are mature.
00:02:13.000 I say that about you all the time.
00:02:14.000 That's what I like to hear.
00:02:14.000 I say, for a grown-up baby.
00:02:16.000 That's the attitude I'm looking for out of you, sir.
00:02:18.000 All my friends are grown-up babies.
00:02:19.000 How about the other day, Joe and I are at the comedy store, and we run down to this other part of the comedy store, and there's a mirror.
00:02:26.000 And both of us stop, look in the mirror, and we pull our shirts up and start flexing.
00:02:30.000 We start going, aw, look at my stomach.
00:02:32.000 Look at my, aw, my obliques. 0.99
00:02:34.000 And then just as quickly threw our shirts down and ran away and I just barked, we're losers! 1.00
00:02:42.000 We're fucking losers! 1.00
00:02:44.000 We're babies. 1.00
00:02:45.000 We're growing up babies.
00:02:47.000 But everybody is until you have so much responsibility that you're beaten down and it's no fun anymore.
00:02:52.000 I think I have figured out the delineation there.
00:02:55.000 It's fun to be a mature, and we are, and to be silly geese, but I think the difference is you become a real adult and you become mature when you have other people that rely on you and where other people's happiness to some degree is more important than your own.
00:03:15.000 You know what I mean?
00:03:16.000 And their development causes you concern, angst, and requires your time and sacrifice.
00:03:22.000 And if I could throw something in there, the only way that silly goose stuff works at all is if you've got your bases covered.
00:03:29.000 That's right. 0.89
00:03:30.000 It's really tough to be a silly goose if you're behind your taxes, or if you have massive credit card debt that you're ignoring, or there's these stacking stress Things, these events, these factors in your life that can really get involved in your happiness and your silliness. 0.86
00:03:48.000 So as long as, you know, your ducks are in a row, then you can kind of laugh a little bit. 0.90
00:03:53.000 Well, we've taken for granted the fact that we have...
00:03:57.000 We figured out a way to preserve our biology in most countries in terms of, like, we have life-saving medications or sort of preventions for keeping us from things like malaria and diphtheria and all those things that used to really...
00:04:11.000 Because they always talk about when you go into a country and you want to get that country on its feet and you want to help develop that country...
00:04:18.000 The first thing you have to make sure of is that people aren't suffering from chronic illnesses, parasites, diseases that just make them feel shitty.
00:04:27.000 They've got the right nutrition.
00:04:29.000 So the first thing to do is take care of your biology.
00:04:31.000 Take care of that sort of...
00:04:33.000 That thing that you live in, that machine.
00:04:35.000 Because otherwise, if you don't feel good, there's a little rudimentary things.
00:04:38.000 If you don't feel good, like hookworm in the South after Civil War was so endemic, it would get in your feet.
00:04:47.000 Hookworm, is that like a ringworm type thing? 0.65
00:04:49.000 No.
00:04:49.000 Hookworm gets in your, enters through your feet, because kids, people always use the, they wouldn't use outhouses, they'd use the great outdoors, and then you'd walk around on your bare feet.
00:04:58.000 So what hookworm does is it gets into your, I guess it goes through your feet, and then it causes you to become anemic, because it latches on to, I don't know, it has some mechanism where it latches on to the intestine or something.
00:05:12.000 Either way, Huge portions of the South after the Civil War were anemic.
00:05:18.000 I mean, huge towns.
00:05:19.000 And in fact, it was so bad that they started running campaigns saying, use an outhouse or die.
00:05:27.000 Use an outhouse or die.
00:05:28.000 And they solved the problem, but it was a major issue in Reconstruction after the war.
00:05:33.000 Major issue in this country in the South.
00:05:35.000 When I lived in Florida, people used to always talk about worms.
00:05:37.000 Now that I'm thinking about it, this is one of the first times I'm remembering this.
00:05:41.000 I think one of my aunts got it.
00:05:43.000 I think she used to walk around barefoot.
00:05:46.000 And Florida is so tropical.
00:05:48.000 Yeah.
00:05:49.000 You know, there's so much.
00:05:49.000 When we live there, we see alligators all the time.
00:05:52.000 Oh, yeah.
00:05:53.000 And this was when they were protected.
00:05:56.000 You ever have worms?
00:05:57.000 No, I've gotten ringworm before, though.
00:06:00.000 Oh, yeah, me too. 1.00
00:06:01.000 But this guy right here that you're looking at has had worms come out of his ass. 1.00
00:06:04.000 Oh, you told me this. 1.00
00:06:06.000 One of my most vivid memories was my sister screaming and crying, and I run in, and there's a giant pink worm coming right out of her Four-year-old ass or whatever it was. 1.00
00:06:16.000 Oh my god. 1.00
00:06:16.000 She didn't know what the fuck was happening. 1.00
00:06:18.000 And I was like, it's a worm. 1.00
00:06:21.000 You just have worms. 0.99
00:06:22.000 How old were you?
00:06:23.000 Mom! 0.97
00:06:23.000 I was six. 0.97
00:06:25.000 You weren't worried about worms coming out of your sister's butt? 1.00
00:06:27.000 Yeah, I was a kid. 0.99
00:06:28.000 I'd had them.
00:06:29.000 And I was like into snakes and stuff.
00:06:30.000 I was like, neat.
00:06:31.000 My mother made it like, look at that!
00:06:33.000 You have worms! 0.99
00:06:33.000 Now take this medicine. 0.99
00:06:35.000 Now what happens if you don't have those worms?
00:06:37.000 Or if you don't take the medication for those worms?
00:06:40.000 So worms are a parasite, right? 1.00
00:06:41.000 How bad can they fuck you up? 1.00
00:06:42.000 Badly. 1.00
00:06:43.000 Look at tapeworm and...
00:06:45.000 The worms, parasites, like worms, were a major issue.
00:06:50.000 And if you remember New Guinea worms, which cause, I think, elephantiasis, but they're awful.
00:06:59.000 Like New Guinea worms...
00:07:01.000 Look up New Guinea worms.
00:07:02.000 They would...
00:07:03.000 I guess...
00:07:04.000 If you want to look up something, look up this video that Red Band was showing me the other night at the Comedy Store about some guy who had an insane amount of worms removed from his gut.
00:07:12.000 He went to the doctor and was complaining of stomach pain and all these issues.
00:07:17.000 That was a reality.
00:07:17.000 Yeah.
00:07:18.000 Oh, dude, there's a video.
00:07:19.000 Sanitation is such a huge factor in our comfort. 1.00
00:07:25.000 Whoa, whoa, the fuck, Jamie? 1.00
00:07:27.000 Jamie, how dare you? 1.00
00:07:28.000 How dare you when I'm talking about sanitation? 1.00
00:07:31.000 Son of a bitch. 1.00
00:07:32.000 Just put it on for us so that the video, so we don't get pulled. 0.99
00:07:36.000 Yeah, yeah, we can get a look out of here.
00:07:38.000 25-year-old bodybuilder, that thing?
00:07:39.000 Is that it?
00:07:40.000 Yeah, I think that's it.
00:07:41.000 Yeah.
00:07:42.000 Worms are a real thing, but they can be deadly.
00:07:45.000 Check this out.
00:07:46.000 They literally had to, it says parasitic worms need a high protein.
00:07:51.000 Okay, this might be like one of those vegan propaganda videos.
00:07:54.000 Probably.
00:07:56.000 Look at all these worms, though. 1.00
00:07:57.000 Holy fucking shit coming out of this guy's body. 1.00
00:08:00.000 I mean, it is insane. 1.00
00:08:02.000 His gut is just stuffed with these squirming worms as he's pulling them out.
00:08:06.000 Looks like spaghetti.
00:08:08.000 It looks like moving spaghetti, if your spaghetti looks like that.
00:08:11.000 Isn't that crazy that worms can live in you like that?
00:08:13.000 Oh my god, it's insane!
00:08:14.000 Look how much it is! 0.96
00:08:15.000 Yeah, that's disgusting.
00:08:16.000 You're looking literally at a large bowl of spaghetti, right?
00:08:19.000 Yeah.
00:08:20.000 Like, I would be wondering if I could eat that whole bowl.
00:08:22.000 That was the reality for a lot of people all the time.
00:08:24.000 Jesus!
00:08:25.000 Look at all of that.
00:08:26.000 That was all inside that dude's body.
00:08:28.000 Take a look at tapeworms.
00:08:30.000 Tapeworms. 0.92
00:08:31.000 That might be a tapeworm. 0.99
00:08:32.000 That looks like a long tapeworm. 0.84
00:08:34.000 But do they need animal protein to stay alive?
00:08:37.000 Is that true?
00:08:38.000 Or could they eat anything to stay alive?
00:08:40.000 See, there you go.
00:08:41.000 I don't know if that's true.
00:08:46.000 Like, let's find out if that's true.
00:08:48.000 Because if that is true...
00:08:49.000 Well, first of all... 0.99
00:08:50.000 If you got fucking worms, you got a problem, period, right? 1.00
00:08:52.000 You're not supposed to get worms. 0.99
00:08:53.000 And just because you get sick because you get worms and then the worms have food to eat because you eat a certain diet, doesn't mean you shouldn't eat that certain diet. 0.99
00:09:02.000 You still have a fucking worm living in you, buddy. 0.99
00:09:03.000 You still got a worm living in you. 1.00
00:09:04.000 Yeah, you gotta kill that thing, figure it out. 0.99
00:09:06.000 How about those worms that break out of your skin? 1.00
00:09:08.000 That would be a tapeworm. 1.00
00:09:09.000 Massive tape warrant discovered inside a man who complained of a stomach ache.
00:09:13.000 That's an even different kind of worm.
00:09:14.000 That other guy had small... 0.96
00:09:16.000 I guess there's a gang of different parasites you can get.
00:09:18.000 You can get them from raw meat. 0.86
00:09:19.000 Look at that.
00:09:20.000 But that is something to know.
00:09:21.000 Find out if that's true.
00:09:22.000 Because if they can only survive...
00:09:24.000 In a person that's eating a protein diet or a high animal protein diet.
00:09:30.000 I don't know if that's true.
00:09:31.000 That's not true because people got plenty of worms in southern India where they were vegetarians.
00:09:35.000 That's nonsense.
00:09:37.000 Worms were a fact of life for any human being. 0.90
00:09:40.000 They're just parasitic.
00:09:41.000 They eat whatever they can get.
00:09:43.000 But that said, if you're consuming animal protein, it's probably another delivery mechanism, right?
00:09:49.000 Right.
00:09:49.000 Yes, I think so.
00:09:51.000 Like food-borne worms? 1.00
00:09:53.000 However, there's also the fact that you irrigated and grew your vegetables in human shit and animal shit as part of the fertilizer. 0.98
00:10:04.000 When that fertilizer got on a piece of lettuce or something that was raw or got on your hands and you ingested, that's how you get things like hepatitis A. That's how you get other parasites. 0.99
00:10:17.000 Yeah, that's apparently the biggest form of E. coli poisoning is from salads.
00:10:21.000 That's right.
00:10:22.000 Isn't that crazy?
00:10:23.000 Yeah.
00:10:23.000 It's like, or was it broccoli or salads?
00:10:26.000 But it was a vegetable.
00:10:27.000 It's a type of E. coli, right?
00:10:28.000 So it's not...
00:10:29.000 Yeah.
00:10:29.000 It's just runoff, you know?
00:10:32.000 Yeah.
00:10:32.000 You know, that was what ruined the Salton Sea.
00:10:34.000 Do you know about the Salton Sea?
00:10:36.000 Mm-mm.
00:10:36.000 Oh, yes, of course I did.
00:10:38.000 You mean the one in Russia?
00:10:40.000 No.
00:10:41.000 No, the Salton Sea is in California.
00:10:43.000 They were calling it the Inland Riviera.
00:10:47.000 California's Inland Riviera.
00:10:49.000 In the 1950s, it opened up the Colorado River, and they flooded this valley in California.
00:10:55.000 It's about...
00:10:56.000 It's outside of Palm Beach.
00:10:58.000 I'm not sure how far.
00:11:00.000 Maybe a couple hours or something.
00:11:01.000 I'm not sure.
00:11:01.000 The desert, though, right?
00:11:02.000 But it's in the desert.
00:11:03.000 And for a long time, meaning, you know, a couple of decades, it was awesome.
00:11:08.000 So people partied there. 0.99
00:11:11.000 Sonny Bono and Cher had a fucking house there. 0.99
00:11:14.000 They would boat. 1.00
00:11:15.000 They would fish and swim.
00:11:16.000 And there was all these, like, beautiful vacation videos.
00:11:20.000 Like, visit!
00:11:21.000 The beautiful Salton Sea, California's inland riviera.
00:11:26.000 Greetings from the Salton Sea. 0.98
00:11:28.000 So they filled that fucking place up with water, and there was tilapia in there, and people would boat, and all the hip people from the 1950s, they would go to fucking party at the Salton Sea. 0.97
00:11:40.000 It was just the spot to be, right? 0.99
00:11:42.000 Yeah.
00:11:43.000 Then, the runoff.
00:11:45.000 The runoff from all the pesticides that all the farmers use all got in that water.
00:11:50.000 And the die-off is so radical, the fish die-off, that the white sands around the shores in some spots are actually just dead fish bones.
00:12:01.000 Like that right there?
00:12:02.000 That is all.
00:12:03.000 That guy is standing on dead fish bones.
00:12:06.000 Because they're tilapia, or like particularly hardy. 0.99
00:12:09.000 And they're like one of the only fish that can survive in that fucking polluted cesspool now. 0.99
00:12:13.000 Really? 0.99
00:12:13.000 Yeah, Sonny Bono, before he died, before he went skiing and whacked into a tree, his goal was to find some sort of a desalination and filtration method for taking all the runoff and all the pesticides and bullshit out of the salt and sea. 0.99
00:12:28.000 He wanted to try to clean it up.
00:12:29.000 It was like one of his ideas.
00:12:31.000 What is that that you just showed us?
00:12:32.000 Is that before and after?
00:12:33.000 It wasn't his.
00:12:34.000 No.
00:12:35.000 But it's an amazing story.
00:12:37.000 It's an amazing story because they just didn't understand what was going on.
00:12:41.000 Is it the Aral Sea?
00:12:43.000 That's what that picture was.
00:12:45.000 Yeah, that's crazy. 0.96
00:12:46.000 That was a real, a legit sea that somehow, environmentally, the Russians or whoever was in that area fucked up. 0.86
00:12:56.000 How did they do that? 0.78
00:12:57.000 Dried it up?
00:12:58.000 Yeah, I can't remember the reason, but it had something to do with irrigation and farming, I think, and maybe I'm wrong.
00:13:06.000 When I was in Seattle a couple months ago, I talked to this gentleman who runs, there's this salmon thing down there where you can go underneath one of the bridges and actually see the ladders where the salmon pass through, and you can see the salmon swimming up the river.
00:13:19.000 It's really fucking badass. 0.77
00:13:20.000 Really? 0.97
00:13:20.000 Yeah, it's really cool. 0.97
00:13:21.000 You go under the river, and these are just wild salmon that are doing their thing, but you get to look at them through a window.
00:13:27.000 Wow.
00:13:27.000 So they took something that happens naturally anyway, and they just put a window so you can go underground and check it out.
00:13:32.000 And then they made it like an awareness thing.
00:13:34.000 They showed the salmon weir, which sort of counts the fish as they go through in some spots.
00:13:39.000 Wow.
00:13:39.000 This guy was saying that at one point in time, they had carved a channel into this lake and connected this lake to the ocean.
00:13:48.000 And as they were connecting this lake to the ocean, they fucked up and it drained these other waterways.
00:13:55.000 And so the salmon didn't have a way to get back into the lake anymore. 0.75
00:13:58.000 Jesus.
00:13:59.000 And so they died en masse.
00:14:00.000 Just millions of salmon just piled up and took the path they always take and just died and rotted.
00:14:05.000 I don't know why I just had this image of...
00:14:08.000 When you were talking about all those salmon that died, but they're swimming in one direction, I had this image of all the actors that come to Los Angeles over the years.
00:14:17.000 I would always feel that way sometimes.
00:14:19.000 I remember driving in traffic to an audition or something, and I would always get this image of being a salmon swimming upriver.
00:14:28.000 And more importantly, I wasn't really sure...
00:14:32.000 What I was doing it for?
00:14:33.000 The guy was like, I wonder if I'm doing this so I can see if I can win at this impossible game?
00:14:37.000 Or do I really want to be on set acting?
00:14:40.000 Like, what's really going on?
00:14:41.000 And what is acting anyway?
00:14:42.000 And why did I get into this in the first place?
00:14:44.000 And who are my heroes?
00:14:45.000 Oh yeah, De Niro and Walken and Pacino.
00:14:47.000 But did I know what they're really doing?
00:14:50.000 Do I just want to be in the movie and be the guy in the movie?
00:14:53.000 Or do I really want to be an actor?
00:14:54.000 And why am I spending so much time doing jujitsu and other things when I should be working on my acting?
00:15:00.000 This is interesting.
00:15:00.000 And if girls weren't involved, would I do it?
00:15:02.000 Alright, those are a lot of questions.
00:15:04.000 It's a lot to bring up.
00:15:05.000 It's a lot to bring up.
00:15:06.000 It's a lot to unbox.
00:15:07.000 It's hard to kind of get an honest assessment.
00:15:09.000 Do you have something important to say?
00:15:11.000 Yeah, Mick West debunked that video, the worms.
00:15:13.000 It's not real.
00:15:14.000 It has nothing to do with meat, according to him.
00:15:16.000 There's a video of a three-year-old with that many worms, too.
00:15:18.000 Mick West is a smart man.
00:15:20.000 He marked it as debunk. 1.00
00:15:21.000 That motherfucker. 1.00
00:15:22.000 So that doesn't make sense if it's coming from a vegan site. 1.00
00:15:24.000 Those guys are always super honest.
00:15:26.000 He also added that what's shown is called a worm bolus.
00:15:29.000 B-O-L-U-S. He says it's an uncommon complication of infection and has nothing to do with eating lots of meat.
00:15:36.000 Yeah, that's not surprising.
00:15:38.000 Who is that guy?
00:15:38.000 I like that guy.
00:15:39.000 That's Mick West.
00:15:40.000 He's brilliant.
00:15:41.000 I met him when I did the Joe Rogan Questions Everything show, and we were talking about chemtrails, which he has worked really hard to try to explain to people that are ultra-paranoid.
00:15:53.000 He calls them the training wheels of conspiracy theories.
00:15:55.000 No, they won't listen, but...
00:15:58.000 What he had to say and what I saw from the people that believe in him, it's pretty obvious what's going on. 0.96
00:16:04.000 And the problem with everybody freaking out about these fucking artificial clouds that are made naturally by jets as they pass through the air with the moisture in the air, the problem with them freaking out about that kind of stuff is the government does do shady shit sometimes.
00:16:14.000 But you've got to be able to differentiate between when it's actually doing shady shit and when it's just a chemical reaction or just a natural reaction of the superheated jet engine hits the cool air and it creates this cloud. 0.93
00:16:26.000 I mean, that's what it is. 0.77
00:16:27.000 You can do it right now.
00:16:29.000 You can go do it right now.
00:16:30.000 It's not hurting anybody.
00:16:31.000 But I think my experience with people who are conspiracy theorists is not so much that they're looking for the truth.
00:16:38.000 I think it's a little bit more, and I want to be fair, but I think it's...
00:16:42.000 I always notice that they are...
00:16:44.000 More interested in belonging to a club that is in the know.
00:16:48.000 There's an identity attached to it.
00:16:50.000 So it no longer becomes really about the search for...
00:16:53.000 See, if you're scientifically minded, right?
00:16:55.000 If you're somebody who says, like Michael Shermer, who says, I believe in the scientific method, what that really means is you start with doubt.
00:17:02.000 Doubt is always present because you're always trying to prove your assumptions.
00:17:07.000 And your assumptions are usually assumed to be wrong until they are proven otherwise through...
00:17:13.000 Trial and error, independent lines of inquiry that come to the same conclusion, all things being equal.
00:17:20.000 That is how we live.
00:17:23.000 That goes into the medicine, the computer that you use, and everything else.
00:17:27.000 There is a way to get to a result that actually has tangible, mathematical, measurable reality.
00:17:35.000 And I think that conspiracy theorists are as attached to being a conspiracy theorist Regardless of what that means, as they are, as someone who would be, I don't know, it's an identity, as opposed to a search for truth.
00:17:52.000 Well, it's also like a default view.
00:17:54.000 Can't wait to get the emails.
00:17:55.000 The default view is that it's a conspiracy.
00:17:58.000 The problem with that default view is that sometimes it's a conspiracy.
00:18:01.000 But if you're wrong a lot...
00:18:05.000 And conspiracy theorists are wrong a lot because they jump too quickly.
00:18:10.000 They jump to conclusions too quickly. 0.85
00:18:11.000 Instead of actually looking at what the fuck the facts are and then going, okay, well, what's fishy about the facts? 0.99
00:18:17.000 All they do is concentrate on what's fishy. 0.98
00:18:19.000 Right.
00:18:20.000 That's it.
00:18:20.000 They try to narrow in on the one thing that they think is the most fishy.
00:18:24.000 I don't remember these jet planes when I was a kid. 0.99
00:18:26.000 I'm like, bitch, you don't even remember what color your house was. 1.00
00:18:29.000 Right. 1.00
00:18:29.000 Okay? 1.00
00:18:29.000 You don't remember shit from when you were a kid. 1.00
00:18:31.000 Right. 0.99
00:18:31.000 Of course you don't remember whether or not there were lines behind jets. 0.99
00:18:33.000 But there's photos that show lines behind jets.
00:18:35.000 Of course.
00:18:36.000 And you show them, they're like, where do they get those photos, man?
00:18:38.000 I'm like, come on. 0.91
00:18:39.000 I know there's a lot of shady shit the government has done, but this one has been tied up. 0.96
00:18:45.000 It's obvious what this is. 0.98
00:18:46.000 Now, here's the problem.
00:18:48.000 When you pretend that those are clouds and that these clouds that are coming out of the back of these jets are some sort of a chemical spray that the government is launching indiscriminately down on civilization for mind control or some nefarious purpose.
00:19:01.000 Mind control? 0.98
00:19:02.000 Whatever fucking nefarious purpose they believe. 0.99
00:19:04.000 It's the most obvious government program ever because it's so ineffective. 1.00
00:19:09.000 It hasn't done jack shit. 0.98
00:19:11.000 It hasn't done anything. 0.89
00:19:13.000 People are living longer than ever.
00:19:14.000 Diseases are getting cured more than ever.
00:19:16.000 They're more rebellious than ever.
00:19:17.000 Everyone was like, I've got a vote for Bill Murray shirt on. 0.99
00:19:20.000 If Bill Murray was running for fucking president right now, people would vote. 0.99
00:19:24.000 They would vote for him. 0.98
00:19:26.000 Well, what I think is really awesome about the internet and about all this is that I think all you hear lately, and I agree, is that the mainstream media is not really a reliable source of truth anymore.
00:19:37.000 They're not objective.
00:19:38.000 They're just not objective. 0.99
00:19:39.000 I don't like Trump, but I will admit that the New York liberal media, who I rarely agree with anyway, has given him a fucking... 0.98
00:19:48.000 I mean, he's his own worst enemy, of course. 0.93
00:19:51.000 But there's no question that a lot of it's either bought off or influenced by its owners and influenced by the fact that it has to be entertaining to compete for ratings.
00:20:04.000 But it's also not objective.
00:20:06.000 When I was watching Hannity on Fox News, he wouldn't even let this woman get her point of view out about Hillary. 1.00
00:20:14.000 I mean, he just kept interrupting.
00:20:15.000 Yeah, it's not about a discussion.
00:20:18.000 It's about pushing an agenda.
00:20:19.000 Exactly.
00:20:19.000 And I think what's going to happen and what is happening is you have things like Viceland...
00:20:24.000 And different independent movements that are saying, you know what?
00:20:29.000 Let's get integrity back into journalism because it's very needed.
00:20:34.000 And let's get out there and get real stories that are going to take guts and let's do some real investigative journaling.
00:20:40.000 I think there will always be a marketplace for that.
00:20:43.000 We want to know the truth.
00:20:44.000 We want the truth.
00:20:46.000 I know that Fox News and CNN give a lot of news to a lot of people, but I think as they continue to discredit themselves with certain behaviors, people are going to be looking for more advice.
00:21:00.000 Well, they can't fall back on that anymore.
00:21:03.000 Because they're the purveyors of truth.
00:21:05.000 You are the only ones.
00:21:06.000 You're the only world purveyors of truth.
00:21:08.000 CNN, Fox News, NBC, ABC, CBS, the big ones, everybody that's putting out these gigantic shows that are being viewed by millions of people, there's a small handful of you. 1.00
00:21:19.000 And if you're full of shit, it's a giant problem. 1.00
00:21:21.000 So if you're full of shit, it doesn't matter all the good stuff that you do. 1.00
00:21:24.000 It doesn't really matter, because you're fucking us. 1.00
00:21:26.000 And I watched Fox News and I watched CNN the other day, and I'm going back and forth between the two of them, and I would just watch one for an hour and then watch the other for an hour. 0.99
00:21:34.000 One of them just wants to talk about nothing but sexual assault, and they were talking about how important it is that we don't use certain language in the workplace, and Don Lemon was telling people, I've had to check people.
00:21:46.000 I've had to check people in my personal life.
00:21:48.000 Isn't that amazing?
00:21:48.000 They're just talking about gender.
00:21:50.000 It's all about sexual assault.
00:21:52.000 And you're a journalist.
00:21:52.000 But look, the sexual assault allegations and everything, they're all serious, right?
00:21:56.000 You don't want a guy who's a sexual assault attacker who is in the White House.
00:22:01.000 You don't want that.
00:22:01.000 Nobody wants that, right?
00:22:02.000 But it's also important that you look at all the fucking corruption that's been shown about the Democratic Party, about what they did to keep Bernie Sanders out, the way they conspired. 0.97
00:22:14.000 Well, Hillary Clinton and that Clinton Foundation, I mean, there's the list of... 0.99
00:22:19.000 Grievances and corruption has been well documented as a mile long It's almost like if I was Hillary Clinton and I knew that I had like there's a lot of dirt on me like goddamn I did some shady shit now the internet starting to Expose my financial dealings and these two hundred and fifty thousand dollar Speeches that she did you know what I'd like to run against someone who is so fucking terrible Someone's a horrible person Maybe I can get Donald to do me a solid. 0.97
00:22:48.000 And Donald's like, oh, I'll play it up. 0.98
00:22:50.000 I'll get big. 0.99
00:22:51.000 I'll pussy grab it. 1.00
00:22:52.000 I'll say a bunch of crazy shit. 1.00
00:22:53.000 We'll leak some tapes. 1.00
00:22:55.000 Well, it's not that far-fetched, almost.
00:22:58.000 Talk about a conspiracy.
00:22:59.000 Well, he was a Democrat.
00:23:00.000 You know that, right?
00:23:01.000 Donald Trump used to be...
00:23:02.000 I believe that's the case.
00:23:04.000 Well, I don't think Donald Trump was anything but Donald Trumpian.
00:23:06.000 I mean, I don't think that Donald Trump has an ideology or a philosophy because that would require...
00:23:12.000 Oh, he does.
00:23:13.000 He has an ideology and a philosophy in terms of what he can see and what he has experienced and felt.
00:23:20.000 But if you think Donald Trump actually has...
00:23:24.000 A philosophy and an ideology that was based on him sort of really thinking and reading and stepping outside himself, reaching beyond himself, you're out of your mind.
00:23:32.000 That's my problem with Donald Trump.
00:23:34.000 That's my problem.
00:23:35.000 Go to Morgan Murphy's Instagram page.
00:23:38.000 Morgan Murphy put this thing up today.
00:23:41.000 She's hilarious.
00:23:42.000 She put this thing up today about Donald Trump debating a scientist.
00:23:49.000 I love this.
00:23:50.000 Put this up.
00:23:54.000 He's just such a character.
00:23:56.000 There's never been a character like this running for president.
00:23:58.000 I'm so torn.
00:24:00.000 Watch this.
00:24:00.000 Go full screen and press play so we can hear it.
00:24:03.000 Light moves with a certain velocity.
00:24:07.000 If you take the various constants that appear in Maxwell's equations and put them together in the right way, you get the velocity of waves moving down an axis.
00:24:17.000 Wrong! 0.86
00:24:20.000 That's actually genius!
00:24:22.000 Look at his facial expressions.
00:24:24.000 This is why I start feeling like life is fiction.
00:24:28.000 Because his facial expressions are literally what you would see in a Dr. Seuss book.
00:24:34.000 Like, look, he pulls his chin in tight.
00:24:36.000 Look at that.
00:24:37.000 I don't mind any of that.
00:24:39.000 I actually find him...
00:24:40.000 See, all of that stuff that people talk about, I think, to me, is so of minimal importance, believe it or not.
00:24:50.000 So much of what he does is actually entertaining and stuff like that.
00:24:52.000 He talks rough.
00:24:53.000 He teases.
00:24:53.000 He's insulting.
00:24:55.000 If the guy was really up on issues, if there was any evidence, he took advice.
00:25:02.000 Just taking advice.
00:25:02.000 He can't take advice.
00:25:04.000 He didn't even prepare for the debates at all.
00:25:06.000 You could see it.
00:25:07.000 He's just so off the cuff and so instinctual.
00:25:10.000 And I'll be honest with you.
00:25:11.000 That's right.
00:25:12.000 I'll be honest.
00:25:13.000 I'll be honest.
00:25:13.000 And I mean this.
00:25:13.000 And I'll be honest with you.
00:25:14.000 I really mean this.
00:25:15.000 I think there's cheating going on. 0.97
00:25:17.000 And she's crooked. 1.00
00:25:19.000 And I'll grab her pussy. 1.00
00:25:20.000 Someone needs to explain to him economy of words. 1.00
00:25:23.000 It's super important when you're trying to get to a position of being a leader.
00:25:28.000 She's really good at that.
00:25:30.000 Her economy of words is excellent.
00:25:32.000 That's how her brain is organized.
00:25:33.000 His brain is not organized that way.
00:25:36.000 His brain is organized to be impulsive, to be reactive. 1.00
00:25:40.000 If you had to draw a picture of his brain, like a side view of his brain, what percentage of it would just say grab the pussy inside of it? 1.00
00:25:48.000 You know, if you had to break it up. 1.00
00:25:50.000 Wisdom, health, like what he's thinking about. 1.00
00:25:52.000 I think that grab the pussy would be much smaller than the part of the brain that just said, me. 1.00
00:25:59.000 You know? 1.00
00:26:00.000 That's my issue.
00:26:01.000 Yeah, he was a Democrat from 2001 to 2008. In 2008, he endorsed John McCain for president.
00:26:08.000 He gave to Hillary Clinton's campaign.
00:26:10.000 But he was also, as a real estate developer, he gave to whatever political party was going to get him the tax breaks he needed or give him the favors he needed.
00:26:19.000 That's really what you do. 0.99
00:26:20.000 I was secretly hoping that he was doing all this asshole stuff running to get the Republican nomination. 0.99
00:26:27.000 And once he got the Republican nomination, he would just completely Aikido the whole thing. 0.99
00:26:33.000 And tell, you know, Hillary, look, I'm going to be as reasonable and rational as possible.
00:26:39.000 And I don't want to insult you.
00:26:41.000 And I don't want to pretend that things are any worse than they really are.
00:26:44.000 But I believe you're part of a systemically corrupt system.
00:26:47.000 And I wanted to just get to this position.
00:26:50.000 So that I, once now I'm here, now I can just tell you how I really feel.
00:26:53.000 I feel like the system is broken.
00:26:55.000 It is.
00:26:56.000 And it's crazy.
00:26:57.000 It's crazy that we stick to it, because we could definitely come up with a better one.
00:27:00.000 But we stick to it because it's old.
00:27:02.000 Well, also, though, I see I don't begrudge.
00:27:06.000 I don't like when people insult Trump voters.
00:27:08.000 And I'll tell you why. 0.84
00:27:08.000 I think there are a lot of Trump voters that might be ignorant or not interested in, you know, but I think it's unfair. 0.84
00:27:14.000 I think it's unfair to categorize somebody who wants to vote for Trump or not vote for Hillary. 0.98
00:27:19.000 I think it's very unfair and condescending to consider them to be dumb or rednecks. 0.96
00:27:24.000 I think the problem with that is this. 0.96
00:27:26.000 Hillary Clinton is talking in very much the same way and along the same parallels that Obama did eight years ago.
00:27:34.000 If you are a working class dude, if you are somebody who has been left behind through globalization and through, I guess, just how the country has moving technology, so if you're a coal miner, if you're,
00:27:49.000 I don't know, there are a lot of industries, You are listening to this woman speak exactly the way Obama did eight years ago and your life has gotten worse. 0.60
00:27:58.000 It hasn't gotten better.
00:27:58.000 It's gotten worse.
00:27:59.000 Why in the world would you not...
00:28:02.000 Why in the world would, out of desperation...
00:28:04.000 Would you not try this very entertaining, giant white guy who's got confidence, who wants to break Washington apart, and who's saying, I'm going to make America great again.
00:28:19.000 That appeals to our emotions.
00:28:21.000 And I do a lot of reading and stuff.
00:28:24.000 I don't think I would necessarily be that different if I didn't know what else.
00:28:28.000 If you take acting and stand-up away from me or whatever, what am I going to do?
00:28:31.000 Teach?
00:28:32.000 I don't know what I'd do.
00:28:33.000 Either way, I'd be pretty desperate for a change and I wouldn't be voting for Hillary. 0.88
00:28:37.000 But don't you think there's a giant issue in deciding that you're going to vote for someone who says they're going to go after someone and lock them in jail?
00:28:47.000 That's what a dictator does. 1.00
00:28:48.000 Set a special prosecutor on her. 0.66
00:28:52.000 Because if I was president, you'd be in jail.
00:28:55.000 But that's how a dictator...
00:28:56.000 She's baiting him.
00:28:57.000 That's how a dictator...
00:28:58.000 What do they always do?
00:28:59.000 When dictators come to power, their opposition gets locked up or killed.
00:29:03.000 But correct me if I'm wrong.
00:29:05.000 The president doesn't have the power to do that, right?
00:29:08.000 Does he have the power to start some special investigation on her?
00:29:11.000 The short answer is yes, the president can appoint an attorney general from the Justice Department, his own attorney general, I believe, to investigate a special case.
00:29:24.000 He could technically do that. 0.98
00:29:27.000 Wow, doesn't that seem fucked? 0.99
00:29:29.000 She could do that to him, too, by the way, right? 0.98
00:29:31.000 It's much deeper than that, because Donald Trump will say things like this.
00:29:35.000 If I told the generals what to do, they would do it.
00:29:38.000 And I've always said we should just go in and take the oil.
00:29:40.000 Are you paraphrasing?
00:29:40.000 I'm not paraphrasing that.
00:29:41.000 He actually said that?
00:29:42.000 He said if I told them what to do, they'd do it.
00:29:44.000 In other words, I know how to run the military, unlike these people.
00:29:49.000 And our generals have failed.
00:29:51.000 He had like five deferments.
00:29:53.000 This is what I'm saying, is that I know.
00:29:54.000 As a dictator if he was in charge.
00:29:57.000 He doesn't even know how that works.
00:29:59.000 But he really said that, is what my point is.
00:30:01.000 Yes, yes.
00:30:01.000 He said many things like that.
00:30:04.000 That's a crazy thing.
00:30:05.000 He's such an obvious megalomaniac, such an obvious demagogue.
00:30:12.000 And I don't, and you're talking to a guy, I don't like Hillary at all. 0.99
00:30:15.000 I think she's more of the same, yes, but I think she's a corrupt human being. 1.00
00:30:19.000 There are a lot of examples of that. 0.78
00:30:21.000 However, I'm not as uncharitable to say that I don't think she's evil.
00:30:25.000 I think she has a vision for the world.
00:30:27.000 In her mind, she believes she knows what's best for the country.
00:30:31.000 But there's a difference because I think she's willing to take big shortcuts to gain influence and always has in her career. 0.99
00:30:37.000 Big shortcuts like what?
00:30:38.000 Like what kind of big shortcuts?
00:30:39.000 Using political influence to get what she wants. 1.00
00:30:43.000 If you look at the people that Clinton pardoned, that pardon scandal was the craziest thing in the world.
00:30:50.000 Who did he pardon?
00:30:50.000 Frank Rich.
00:30:51.000 Take a look at the list.
00:30:53.000 Frank Rich, Hillary wanted to run for Senate in New York. 1.00
00:30:59.000 And he needed certain counties.
00:31:01.000 And he needed a large, I believe, Hasidic Jewish vote.
00:31:05.000 And he pardoned some guy, a rabbi or somebody in there.
00:31:11.000 Literally, I remember the Democratic...
00:31:13.000 I think it was one of the Democratic pundits who said...
00:31:17.000 I don't know how you defend this.
00:31:18.000 It's just so obvious that he's trying to buy his wife votes, that he's trying to buy influence.
00:31:24.000 And that's well documented.
00:31:25.000 I don't think a lot of Democrats would disagree with that.
00:31:28.000 You know, look it up.
00:31:29.000 Look up the Uranium One deal.
00:31:30.000 Look up the Uranium One deal.
00:31:32.000 Through Bill Clinton's influence, this Canadian businessman bought the Kazakh oil uranium fields.
00:31:39.000 Well, let's go one scandal at a time.
00:31:41.000 The first one, did you find the first one?
00:31:43.000 Mark Rich?
00:31:44.000 Yeah.
00:31:44.000 Is that the guy's name?
00:31:45.000 Mark Rich.
00:31:45.000 Look at the pardons.
00:31:47.000 I've looked at this guy up before.
00:31:48.000 I think he was going to go down as, at the time, largest tax evasion.
00:31:52.000 Oh, that's right.
00:31:53.000 Living in Switzerland.
00:31:53.000 At the time, Rudy Giuliani was prosecuting him.
00:31:55.000 Oh, wow.
00:31:56.000 His thing's right here in the middle.
00:31:58.000 Yeah.
00:31:58.000 Hmm.
00:32:01.000 He was a fugitive who had fled the U.S. during his prosecution and was residing in Switzerland.
00:32:06.000 He owed $48 million in taxes and was charged with 51 cases, accounts of tax fraud, was pardoned for tax evasion.
00:32:13.000 He was required to pay a $1 million fine and waive any use of the pardon as a defense against any future civil charges that were filed against him in the same case.
00:32:23.000 Whoa.
00:32:23.000 Critics complained that Denise Eisenberg, Rich, his former wife, had made substantial donations to the Clinton Library and Mrs. Clinton's Senate campaign.
00:32:34.000 What a surprise!
00:32:36.000 That Mark Rich, who lives in Switzerland, and you're going to give him a pardon.
00:32:40.000 Do you think they're connected? 0.97
00:32:41.000 It was so blatant, it was ridiculous. 0.91
00:32:43.000 But you can keep going with the pardons. 0.82
00:32:44.000 There are a lot of examples of that.
00:32:46.000 So to call Hillary Clinton not corrupt, the Uranium One deal.
00:32:51.000 Go ahead and look that up.
00:32:52.000 What's that?
00:32:52.000 What's uranium?
00:32:53.000 Well, the Canadian businessman bought the Kazakh in Kazakhstan.
00:32:57.000 Used to be a part of the Soviet Union.
00:33:01.000 Uranium fields.
00:33:03.000 Some huge uranium fields.
00:33:05.000 I think some of the biggest in the world.
00:33:07.000 Uranium.
00:33:08.000 Right.
00:33:08.000 Which he used to make nuclear weapons.
00:33:10.000 Oh, shit. 0.99
00:33:11.000 And Bill Clinton helped with his influence, a well-documented influence, helped this Canadian businessman buy those uranium fields. 1.00
00:33:20.000 But here's the problem.
00:33:21.000 That Canadian businessman gave $31 million to the Clinton Foundation with a pledge for $100 million more, and he gave Clinton a $500,000 Check for speaking, for a speech.
00:33:37.000 $500,000.
00:33:39.000 Then when it came time for the Kazakh oil fields to be sold to a Russian company, a Russian company that the State Department and everybody else in our intelligence community said, guys, the Soviets are going to have a lot of access to uranium,
00:33:54.000 some of the biggest reserves in the world, and this Canadian businessman is going to sell it to a Russian company.
00:34:00.000 Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State at the time, and she okayed that deal.
00:34:04.000 She was one of the people that had to give her okay.
00:34:07.000 So now the Russians own a lot of that, a lot of those oil fields.
00:34:12.000 Oh, and by the way, look up the U.S.-Russian Technology Initiative, where one of the movements is to have...
00:34:21.000 Russian citizens and American citizens share technology and technological sort of ideas and stuff.
00:34:29.000 The problem with that is that that requires American investors.
00:34:33.000 28 of them were chosen.
00:34:36.000 60% were...
00:34:39.000 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:34:40.000 And Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State was spearheading that. 0.89
00:34:43.000 Of the 28 U.S. partners that invested, 60% gave to the Clinton Foundation.
00:34:50.000 Now, come on.
00:34:51.000 Now, come on.
00:34:52.000 This is blatant stuff.
00:34:54.000 So we have to look at that.
00:34:56.000 This is great.
00:34:57.000 What a great picture they got of her.
00:34:59.000 I know.
00:35:00.000 Could she look more guilty?
00:35:01.000 It says, report Russian government initiative gave millions of dollars to Clinton Foundation.
00:35:06.000 And what is that on?
00:35:07.000 While Clinton was serving as Secretary of State.
00:35:09.000 You don't think she knew that?
00:35:11.000 What's the website that's on?
00:35:13.000 It was in the Wall Street Journal.
00:35:15.000 It's been well documented.
00:35:17.000 What a great photo.
00:35:18.000 This is not conspiracy stuff.
00:35:20.000 Every major publication in the world knows this and concurs along the same lines.
00:35:26.000 The same story.
00:35:26.000 It's the same story.
00:35:27.000 They could print the same story.
00:35:29.000 It's not like this.
00:35:29.000 But what do they do with the money?
00:35:31.000 What does the charity do with the money?
00:35:33.000 Because here's the question.
00:35:34.000 She just recently got some crazy award for... 0.88
00:35:37.000 Have the charity, the Clinton Foundation, receive some highest accreditation?
00:35:42.000 It's a very good question.
00:35:44.000 First of all, be careful of those accreditation.
00:35:46.000 Foundations have always been notoriously corrupted in every aspect, including getting high ratings.
00:35:53.000 But there is no doubt that the Clinton Foundation does a lot of good for children with AIDS overseas for, I think, things like malaria, malaria nets.
00:36:04.000 I think they even work maybe with the Gates Foundation.
00:36:07.000 They do a lot of good stuff.
00:36:08.000 Now, there are a lot of reporters have written about how it's a slush fund, how it's used for other things.
00:36:14.000 I don't know anything about that, and I don't begrudge...
00:36:17.000 Explain slush fund.
00:36:19.000 Would that mean they would take the money from there and use it for their own gain?
00:36:24.000 Look up slush fund.
00:36:25.000 I can give you a definition, but for the most part, a slush fund typically would be A place to put money that under certain auspices is said for this, but it's actually used for other things.
00:36:39.000 A reserve of money used for illicit purposes, especially political bribery.
00:36:44.000 Yes, but what you say is, oh, this money is for curing this disease, but it's used for other things.
00:36:54.000 I think that might be unfair to say that the Clinton Foundation is less fun.
00:36:57.000 That's what journalists, especially conservative newspapers like Wall Street Journal will say.
00:37:02.000 Of course.
00:37:03.000 Yeah.
00:37:03.000 Right.
00:37:03.000 Of course you're going to do that.
00:37:04.000 I mean, what I was going to say earlier about tuning back and forth between CNN and Fox News, it was one of the best examples I've ever seen of the fact that these guys are playing a game and this is just the propaganda news network now.
00:37:17.000 This is a propaganda news network for the left.
00:37:19.000 This is a propaganda news network for the right.
00:37:20.000 And they're both guilty.
00:37:21.000 That's right.
00:37:22.000 They're both guilty of it.
00:37:22.000 They're both guilty.
00:37:23.000 No one's being honest about it.
00:37:24.000 No one's having this conversation that we're having where we're saying, look, maybe it wouldn't be the worst idea in the world to get someone in there who's some crazy rich guy who's this gigantic figure that'll stir things up.
00:37:36.000 Maybe having a guy like him would be a doorway to having someone who has some next level view of running government and including people in the process and moving it away from this The system's too restrictive,
00:37:53.000 and it's too restrictive based on the times in which it was creative.
00:37:56.000 The representative government model that they needed in 1776, it's a very different world today.
00:38:03.000 It's 2016. I don't know.
00:38:06.000 I think that the bigger culprit...
00:38:09.000 Maybe less systemic, like you're talking about.
00:38:12.000 I actually think the bigger culprit is the wrong ideas are starting to win the day.
00:38:16.000 And here's what I mean.
00:38:18.000 Let's just take the left.
00:38:19.000 Let's just take the hysterical left.
00:38:22.000 And I think, by the way, I'm...
00:38:25.000 More of a libertarian, so that would make me more swing to the right.
00:38:28.000 We're both pretty left on a lot of stuff.
00:38:31.000 Exactly.
00:38:31.000 I was about to categorize.
00:38:33.000 See, that's the problem is these categories. 1.00
00:38:35.000 These categories are fucking stupid, too. 1.00
00:38:38.000 I'm super left on almost every social issue. 1.00
00:38:41.000 On welfare, on government programs to help communities and boys clubs and girls clubs and things along those lines.
00:38:50.000 You're making my point for me exactly.
00:38:52.000 So when I say left, what do I really mean?
00:38:55.000 When I say I'm a libertarian, what do I mean by that?
00:38:57.000 Because I'm not a total libertarian, right?
00:38:59.000 So here's a better way.
00:39:00.000 It's exactly what I'm trying to say.
00:39:01.000 Here's a much better way of...
00:39:05.000 Establishing sort of where you stand and rather than say these people over here are wrong and these people over here are right or these people are left or right, what you're doing is categorizing people and we know that people are all over the place.
00:39:17.000 Look at you and I. I'm left this way.
00:39:19.000 I'm socially very liberal.
00:39:21.000 I believe in fair play.
00:39:22.000 I also believe in common sense.
00:39:24.000 I also believe in personal responsibility.
00:39:26.000 That's where it gets weird.
00:39:27.000 You start moving right.
00:39:28.000 Isn't that interesting?
00:39:29.000 Well, that's what happens.
00:39:29.000 But that's called being, occupying the entire intellectual and emotional spectrum as a human being.
00:39:37.000 What a surprise! 1.00
00:39:38.000 I'm a sinner and I'm a saint, motherfucker. 1.00
00:39:40.000 Are you a joker and a smoker? 1.00
00:39:42.000 And a joker and a smoker as well.
00:39:44.000 Are you a midnight toker?
00:39:44.000 I'm a midnight toker sometimes if I want to sleep.
00:39:46.000 Do you get your loving on the run? 1.00
00:39:47.000 Fuck no. 1.00
00:39:48.000 I stand, I set my heels and I fucking drive. 1.00
00:39:52.000 Steve Miller. 1.00
00:39:52.000 And I bite my own fucking tongue. 1.00
00:39:54.000 But here's a better way. 1.00
00:39:56.000 Here's the enemy.
00:39:57.000 Not a person.
00:39:58.000 Here's the enemy.
00:39:59.000 It's this.
00:39:59.000 One example.
00:40:01.000 It's this thought process.
00:40:03.000 We have a disenfranchised group over here. 0.96
00:40:05.000 Let's call them transsexuals, or let's call them black people, or let's call them women. 0.97
00:40:11.000 I can't believe you lumped all those three people together. 0.99
00:40:14.000 Well, we do this, let's just take the fact that women are victims of sexual assault. 1.00
00:40:21.000 We've established that sexual assault is, first let's define what it is, but we know that for the most part it's a problem and it's a terrible thing when it happens, right?
00:40:29.000 I'm talking about rape.
00:40:32.000 Now, we know we want to solve that or make it better or make women safer or make the world safer. 0.99
00:40:38.000 I think what happens is a lot of times, the one thought process in solving that problem is as follows.
00:40:46.000 Well, let's find out who's doing the raping. 1.00
00:40:49.000 It's men! 1.00
00:40:50.000 It's men.
00:40:51.000 So what we're going to do is make it better because the way we're going to make it better is we're going to take the power away from those men.
00:41:01.000 And we're going to give it somewhere else.
00:41:03.000 And how are we going to do that?
00:41:04.000 Well, there's only one way to do it.
00:41:05.000 You need a big, big...
00:41:08.000 Powerful authority to actually be able to enforce that.
00:41:12.000 You need laws and you need regulations and you need restrictions.
00:41:16.000 So the idea that you will make someone else who's not powerful more powerful by putting down people that are already powerful, by taking that power away from them financially or with laws, as if that is going to make the people who have been oppressed It's going to make their lives better.
00:41:37.000 I think that's a faulty way of thinking.
00:41:39.000 I don't think that empowers women. 1.00
00:41:42.000 I don't think that empowers black people.
00:41:44.000 I don't.
00:41:45.000 I think rather personal responsibility and making it so that that group can figure out how to empower themselves.
00:41:54.000 And the way you empower yourself is not by taking power from somebody else.
00:41:57.000 I mean, unless they're a sadist and they're keeping you in a cage.
00:42:01.000 But for the most part, I think that's a very important distinction and discussion to have.
00:42:07.000 That's the discussion.
00:42:08.000 That's the debate I'd love to hear between CNN and Fox.
00:42:12.000 But I don't.
00:42:13.000 I also think there's a big problem with this right and left system in that you pick a side and you want that side to win. 0.99
00:42:20.000 And it's almost like a civil war in America every time the fucking elections come up. 0.99
00:42:26.000 And I think it's bogus. 0.99
00:42:27.000 I think the whole setup is bogus.
00:42:29.000 I think the distinction between the two groups is bogus, and I think we're so used to having teams compete against teams that we slide right into it.
00:42:37.000 I think what we really should be worried about is, there should be a set of things that we're all worried about.
00:42:44.000 Who is ruining the party?
00:42:49.000 Who's doing terrible things?
00:42:50.000 Who are they?
00:42:51.000 Is it people that are robbing people?
00:42:52.000 Is it people that are selling meth?
00:42:54.000 Is it people that are murdering people?
00:42:56.000 Who's ruining the party? 0.76
00:42:57.000 Okay, well first we've got to find them.
00:42:59.000 It might be the people that are driving the narrative.
00:43:01.000 This should be the entire focus of a culture.
00:43:04.000 Okay, second of all, Where are the weak links in our chains?
00:43:07.000 How are these poor people supposed to get by? 1.00
00:43:10.000 They're born into poverty, they're born into shitty parents. 1.00
00:43:13.000 How do we fucking nip that in the bud so we have less people that are just suffering through the emotional baggage of being raised by fuckheads? 1.00
00:43:20.000 But there are different schools of thought on that, right? 0.99
00:43:22.000 So that's what happens.
00:43:24.000 Yeah, there are different schools of thought, but let me keep going. 0.99
00:43:26.000 Why the fuck would we fight Russia? 0.98
00:43:29.000 Why are we in Afghanistan? 0.99
00:43:30.000 Why would anybody do any of these things? 0.95
00:43:32.000 At what point in time is it going to be ridiculous for the idea of giant groups of people to go over and try to fuck up other giant groups of people that are all in on it together for the profits of some person who probably doesn't give a fuck about you and is super happy to let you go to war for them so they can get more oil? 0.84
00:43:48.000 The same reason people argue. 0.93
00:43:50.000 The same reason people have different points of view.
00:43:52.000 The two-party thing.
00:43:54.000 It's the two-team thing.
00:43:55.000 It's the natural inclination that people have to compete against each other.
00:44:00.000 Even on a global scale, it keeps ramping up.
00:44:02.000 I'm sure it works that way with billionaires.
00:44:05.000 They want to have the biggest yacht.
00:44:06.000 Having a giant yacht is not good enough.
00:44:08.000 They want the biggest yacht ever.
00:44:10.000 And they keep competing against each other.
00:44:12.000 But isn't that the human condition, that conflict, that need to impose your own, really, your own mark?
00:44:20.000 I don't know if you would ever...
00:44:22.000 If you try to change that, you're messing with human nature.
00:44:25.000 I think the problem is with having anyone being a figurehead.
00:44:29.000 I think once you have someone who's a figurehead, then that figurehead position becomes a coveted position.
00:44:35.000 It's hard to get to.
00:44:36.000 It's very important.
00:44:37.000 It becomes a goal.
00:44:38.000 And once it becomes a goal, you're going to get the super competitive people that are trying to achieve that goal.
00:44:42.000 And then along the way they start realizing that they can sell influence and speeches and that Bill Clinton got paid half a million bucks to talk to these people for an hour and Hillary Clinton got 250,000 to talk to some bankers for an hour.
00:44:56.000 It's like there's so much money in it that they start realizing like that position carries with it an incredible fiscal windfall.
00:45:03.000 It's called an economy of influence.
00:45:05.000 Yeah, it's an amazing one.
00:45:06.000 Do you know how Switzerland is ruled?
00:45:08.000 It's really interesting.
00:45:09.000 How do they do it?
00:45:09.000 So they have a lot of different parties.
00:45:11.000 Right.
00:45:28.000 Way better idea.
00:45:29.000 And not only the F7 presidents, they all have regular jobs.
00:45:31.000 It's not their only job.
00:45:33.000 And so they meet and they discuss legislation.
00:45:36.000 But guess what else?
00:45:37.000 Those groups are the ones, those parties are the ones that elect their own presidents.
00:45:44.000 Yeah, but what do they have to worry about?
00:45:46.000 Oh, someone's invading to steal our cheese and our army knives.
00:45:49.000 What's the great quote?
00:45:50.000 Who was it who said it?
00:45:52.000 500 years of continual warfare in Italy gave rise to the Renaissance, and 500 years of relative peace in Switzerland gave rise to the cuckoo clock.
00:46:06.000 They're beautiful clocks and the chicks are hot. 1.00
00:46:08.000 Why build things when you can just fuck all the girls that live there? 1.00
00:46:11.000 Because they're just super hot. 1.00
00:46:13.000 Well, does turmoil...
00:46:13.000 Think they're on to something?
00:46:15.000 Or does turmoil create beauty?
00:46:16.000 Maybe.
00:46:17.000 What is innovation?
00:46:18.000 It's a form of destruction.
00:46:19.000 What is beauty?
00:46:21.000 What's more beautiful?
00:46:22.000 A peaceful day just overlooking a field or the Vatican?
00:46:25.000 I have an answer.
00:46:27.000 I bet you're wrong.
00:46:28.000 Well, do you know how the Greeks define it?
00:46:29.000 I bet you're wrong.
00:46:30.000 You know how the Greeks define it in one word?
00:46:32.000 I bet you're wrong. 0.98
00:46:32.000 Jamie, do you know how the- I bet you're fucking wrong. 0.98
00:46:34.000 What are you- Hey, your breath is starting to smell like Trump! 0.99
00:46:38.000 What does Trump's breath smell like, if you had to guess? 1.00
00:46:40.000 Fucking meat and... 1.00
00:46:44.000 For sure. 1.00
00:46:44.000 There's a lot of filet mignon in there. 1.00
00:46:45.000 I think just meat and oppression and a wasp flies out and stings you in the face once in a while.
00:46:54.000 I don't know.
00:46:54.000 You know what the irony is?
00:46:56.000 I guarantee he'd be a fun guy to hang out with. 0.98
00:46:58.000 I bet he's a fucking blast. 0.99
00:46:59.000 For sure. 0.99
00:47:00.000 For sure he is. 0.88
00:47:01.000 He'd probably be one of my favorite people even though he's a complete narcissist.
00:47:03.000 Jeff Ross said he was great when they roasted him.
00:47:06.000 He said he was great.
00:47:07.000 He even advised him to laugh at the jokes about him.
00:47:10.000 And he's like, you know, it's probably better if you laugh along.
00:47:15.000 You don't want people to think you don't have a sense of humor.
00:47:17.000 And he's like, you're right, you're right.
00:47:18.000 That's great.
00:47:19.000 That's great.
00:47:21.000 He's a great American figure.
00:47:24.000 Say what you will.
00:47:25.000 I wouldn't say great in terms of the overall influence that he's having on people right now.
00:47:33.000 But as far as him being a great figure in terms of, like, big, he's a huge historical figure.
00:47:39.000 He had his own airline for a while.
00:47:41.000 It's not just that.
00:47:42.000 He's always been this figure and this, like, this sort of symbol of wealth and extravagance.
00:47:49.000 It revitalized a lot of political discussion, because I was forced to explain and articulate and think about why he's dangerous.
00:47:59.000 I was forced to look up words like demagogue.
00:48:01.000 I didn't have to look that up, ladies and gentlemen, but you know what I mean.
00:48:03.000 But I was forced to do all these things, and that in a way is good.
00:48:08.000 I mean, that in a way, you've got to have somebody, you go, wait a minute, wait a minute, I can't afford to not be politically committed right now.
00:48:14.000 And here's another reason I don't like Hillary, the uranium one deal. 1.00
00:48:17.000 And here's another reason I don't like Trump.
00:48:20.000 At least it got me thinking and talking.
00:48:22.000 We're all talking about it.
00:48:23.000 And younger people who listen to podcasts like this are at least listening.
00:48:26.000 Maybe they agree, maybe they don't.
00:48:28.000 And hopefully both, so that they can then formulate their own opinion.
00:48:32.000 Eddie Bravo thinks we're going to war with Russia.
00:48:34.000 All right, Eddie.
00:48:35.000 Well, Eddie's done a lot of investigative journalism.
00:48:38.000 The big fear in the conservative conspiracy theory world is, this has been explained to me, that they think that they're going to start a war with Russia to distract us from the WikiLeaks. 0.95
00:48:51.000 That's fucking hilarious to me.
00:48:53.000 WikiLeaks revelations, because there's new ones that are coming out, apparently. 0.95
00:48:57.000 New WikiLeaks stuff's coming out.
00:48:58.000 And as if people don't have enemies, everybody's an enemy in government.
00:49:02.000 Wait, you didn't answer my question.
00:49:03.000 They cut Julian Assange's internet connection.
00:49:06.000 What question was that?
00:49:07.000 How do you define beauty?
00:49:08.000 That's one word.
00:49:09.000 Oh, what is it?
00:49:10.000 It's what the Greeks say.
00:49:11.000 You rambled for an hour. 1.00
00:49:12.000 I forgot what the fuck you said. 1.00
00:49:13.000 Fuck, I did, didn't I? You ready for it? 1.00
00:49:20.000 Yeah, go ahead.
00:49:21.000 And this is how you define beauty.
00:49:22.000 How?
00:49:23.000 Harmony.
00:49:24.000 Hmm.
00:49:24.000 Interesting.
00:49:25.000 So when you see a cheetah running, why is it beautiful?
00:49:27.000 All moving parts, all the parts are moving.
00:49:30.000 Yeah, but if it's running at you, it's not beautiful.
00:49:31.000 It's horrible.
00:49:32.000 Dude, I get low.
00:49:33.000 It's running at your kid? 1.00
00:49:34.000 Fuck you, I get low. 1.00
00:49:35.000 What if it's running at your kid? 1.00
00:49:35.000 Is that beautiful? 1.00
00:49:36.000 That's a good question.
00:49:37.000 That's a horror show. 0.76
00:49:38.000 Beautiful beauty is without a doubt, as the old expression goes, in the eye of the beholder.
00:49:43.000 Certain people like certain things.
00:49:45.000 Certain people like certain kinds of art that I find disgusting.
00:49:47.000 They love it.
00:49:49.000 They love certain kinds of music.
00:49:50.000 They love certain features on people.
00:49:52.000 They love certain looks as far as clothing goes. 0.99
00:49:55.000 It's whatever the fuck you think it is. 1.00
00:49:57.000 If it's beautiful to you, it's ridiculous anyway. 1.00
00:50:00.000 Physical beauty in a human being, the difference between a person whose cheeks are this wide, like, you know, like five inches wide or seven inches wide, that extra two inches can make you look like a fucking weirdo. 0.99
00:50:12.000 Yes. 0.98
00:50:13.000 Symmetry.
00:50:13.000 You're talking about symmetry and proportion.
00:50:14.000 I'm not just talking about symmetry and proportion.
00:50:16.000 I'm talking about just the way you look.
00:50:18.000 Mm-hmm.
00:50:19.000 Not that it throws you off because you're looking at the Fibonacci sequence of a person.
00:50:23.000 That's what happens when someone gets a nose job. 1.00
00:50:25.000 If they have a naturally huge nose and they get that bitch chopped down, something will look weird about their face to you because your brain is used to looking at things in a very distinct sequence. 1.00
00:50:36.000 The Fibonacci sequence, which exists on nautilus shells and sunflower seeds and all these different versions of it in nature. 0.97
00:50:42.000 But also, you can use that sequence, you can use those measurements to show roughly what a person's facial features would be like.
00:50:50.000 They're all kind of...
00:50:51.000 And so when you surgically mess with that... 0.99
00:50:54.000 Yeah, you fuck with the whole outline of your face. 0.99
00:50:57.000 That's like when you see someone and their lips are way too big and their mouth is stretched too wide, so you know they've got fillers and some sort of a neck job where their face is pulled back. 1.00
00:51:10.000 You're immediately, like, your math is off on them.
00:51:14.000 Like, you're looking at them, you're like, my math's off.
00:51:16.000 Like, why are your lips so big?
00:51:18.000 Like, this isn't...
00:51:18.000 Dogs, I think, will...
00:51:19.000 Like, I've seen...
00:51:21.000 My neighbor used to do a lot of blow. 0.95
00:51:22.000 My dog would flip the...
00:51:24.000 She'd come out and go, hey, what's going on? 0.99
00:51:25.000 My dog was like, get the fuck away from me! 0.99
00:51:27.000 Like, my dog immediately knew some shit was wrong with the way she was moving. 1.00
00:51:31.000 Oh, but that's someone who's on coke. 0.99
00:51:33.000 She was probably aggressive to your dog, too, when you weren't around. 0.71
00:51:36.000 Maybe, or she was just talking weird. 1.00
00:51:38.000 My dog was like, I don't like this fucking person. 1.00
00:51:41.000 Maybe. 1.00
00:51:41.000 But, um... 1.00
00:51:43.000 What the fuck we were talking about? 0.97
00:51:44.000 We're talking about Fibonacci, but we got to something before that. 0.99
00:51:48.000 Harmony and how beauty is contextual, right?
00:51:51.000 But it's weird how like there's certain things that people just decide are beautiful and there's certain things that are beautiful to certain people that just don't resonate with others at all, you know?
00:52:02.000 And certain people are into certain looks, you know?
00:52:04.000 There's guys that are legitimately into morbidly obese women.
00:52:08.000 They really enjoy it.
00:52:09.000 That's what they're attracted to.
00:52:10.000 Gadsad on your podcast would disagree.
00:52:11.000 I listened to that podcast and Gadsad was talking about how even congenitally, he went through a whole litany of reasons why hip-to-waist ratio and breast size and all that stuff and symmetry and proportion are biological triggers for men and the idea that there isn't a standard of beauty that turns on men in general.
00:52:33.000 Brian, that's not what I'm saying.
00:52:35.000 There absolutely is, of course.
00:52:36.000 Of course.
00:52:36.000 But there's certainly exceptions.
00:52:38.000 Yes.
00:52:39.000 Aberrations.
00:52:39.000 There's a giant spec.
00:52:40.000 That's why some guys are gay. 0.99
00:52:42.000 Right. 0.96
00:52:42.000 Because that's where they fall into the spectrum. 0.96
00:52:44.000 Their beauty to them, what they're attracted to, is men.
00:52:48.000 And there's going to be certain versions of men that are attracted to all kinds of...
00:52:53.000 Some guys are attracted to giant women that can carry them around. 1.00
00:52:57.000 Do you remember R. Crumb?
00:52:58.000 I sure do.
00:52:58.000 Did you ever see that documentary?
00:53:00.000 Yes, it was amazing.
00:53:01.000 Arcom is great.
00:53:02.000 Well, I knew about him because our neighbors, when I was a kid, you know, my parents were hippies.
00:53:07.000 We lived in San Francisco from age 7 to 11. I lived in San Francisco.
00:53:11.000 And we had these crazy neighbors, these gay guys. 1.00
00:53:14.000 My aunt used to smoke pot and go next door, and they would go get naked and play bongos together. 1.00
00:53:19.000 This guy was black as the sky on a moonless night. 0.99
00:53:24.000 And he would get high as fuck and take all his clothes off and he was gay and his boyfriend, they would live together and they would all just get naked and play bongos together. 1.00
00:53:33.000 My aunt would go down there and get baked with him. 1.00
00:53:35.000 But anyway, they had these comic books.
00:53:37.000 They had R. Crumb.
00:53:39.000 And that was the first time I was ever exposed to R. Crumb.
00:53:41.000 And I was like, what a weird guy.
00:53:43.000 Well, no, they would carry him.
00:53:45.000 Oh, that's right. 1.00
00:53:45.000 And they had giant legs and giant asses. 1.00
00:53:48.000 Enormous women. 1.00
00:53:48.000 They looked like Avatar women. 1.00
00:53:49.000 They didn't even look like they were real.
00:53:51.000 Powerful.
00:53:52.000 Huge.
00:53:52.000 So he was into like, he's got all this power illuminating off of this woman's giant legs.
00:53:59.000 And she looks like what you would see today from some crazy mega CrossFit type chick. 1.00
00:54:04.000 Like their big muscular legs.
00:54:06.000 That was what he was into for some weird reason.
00:54:09.000 I wonder if, though, those kinds of examples are...
00:54:13.000 First of all, I think everybody, though, regardless of what your aberration, your perversion, your fetish is, whatever you want to call a word, I think, though, that that still doesn't mean that they don't and can't recognize what would be considered harmonious.
00:54:30.000 Yeah, but it doesn't matter.
00:54:31.000 Obviously, he keeps drawing photos of these girls with giant legs and giant muscles. 0.99
00:54:37.000 And it says, back that off a little so I can read the photo.
00:54:39.000 How to have fun with a strong girl.
00:54:41.000 Amazing.
00:54:42.000 I stand before her, trembling with anticipation that she struts and prances around the room, boldly displaying her magnificent physique. 1.00
00:54:50.000 She's full of narcissistic pride and is obviously enjoying the effect she's having on me. 0.98
00:54:55.000 And it's him, R. Crumb, who's this real nerdy looking guy and he's got boxer shorts on with a boner and socks and his hairy legs. 0.99
00:55:03.000 Terrible legs.
00:55:04.000 Really hilarious writing and hilarious artwork.
00:55:07.000 And that was what he was all about. 0.99
00:55:08.000 It was all this weird pervert shit. 1.00
00:55:10.000 So I got exposed to this stuff when I was like, shit. 1.00
00:55:13.000 I guess I was like eight. 0.96
00:55:15.000 Somewhere around eight or nine. 0.99
00:55:17.000 I was like, what the fuck is this going on? 1.00
00:55:18.000 Why is this guy into giant women? 1.00
00:55:20.000 What the fuck is this? 1.00
00:55:21.000 Weird. 0.99
00:55:22.000 Yeah, and he had a bunch of different characters that he would draw in all of these weird comic books.
00:55:28.000 But you know what's... 1.00
00:55:29.000 Yeah, there's a girl with a giant pussy and an asshole. 1.00
00:55:32.000 But you know what's really weird? 1.00
00:55:33.000 Her first day in the city.
00:55:35.000 I mean, I saw this kind of stuff when I was real little.
00:55:39.000 Okay, but how do you explain this?
00:55:40.000 So for me... 1.00
00:55:41.000 Look at all that asshole hair. 1.00
00:55:43.000 That's amazing. 1.00
00:55:43.000 Such a good piece of... 1.00
00:55:44.000 He's coming out with his nose in the air.
00:55:46.000 Yeah.
00:55:48.000 I don't know.
00:55:49.000 It messes with my head.
00:55:50.000 What is that title of that one?
00:55:51.000 That's going to be my next tattoo.
00:55:53.000 My first tattoo.
00:55:55.000 Her first day in the city, if you're looking for it.
00:55:58.000 Google that.
00:55:59.000 Original R. Crumb.
00:56:00.000 What does it say the rest?
00:56:03.000 Snatch comics?
00:56:04.000 Is that the Snatch? 0.92
00:56:06.000 So he had a lot of vagina-based art. 1.00
00:56:08.000 He's stepping into her vagina and he's looking around. 1.00
00:56:11.000 He's looking around and doesn't notice the giant vagina he's about to step into. 1.00
00:56:15.000 He's about to step into it. 0.99
00:56:15.000 Gosh, a country-type hood sure get... 0.99
00:56:18.000 A country-type could sure get lost around here. 1.00
00:56:22.000 And he's about to step into her vagina. 1.00
00:56:24.000 She looks like a chicken. 1.00
00:56:26.000 She looks like a tunnel.
00:56:28.000 Here's hoping.
00:56:30.000 Big city woman. 0.95
00:56:31.000 Oh my god.
00:56:32.000 It's a metaphor.
00:56:34.000 But here's the thing that's confusing.
00:56:37.000 I am very attracted to CrossFit, very muscular women. 1.00
00:56:41.000 I think that's hot, right? 0.99
00:56:42.000 So I'd love to have sex. 1.00
00:56:43.000 You want a woman that can beat your ass? 1.00
00:56:44.000 No, I just like the power in the legs. 1.00
00:56:47.000 I like a mesomorph.
00:56:47.000 Would you like them to underestimate you and you would out-wrestle them?
00:56:50.000 Is that your move?
00:56:50.000 I mean, that has been in the past, but that's less what's interesting.
00:56:54.000 I think when I see a CrossFit woman, like a woman who's just got a blowout ass and powerful legs and all that, and a back on her, maybe I want to breed with her, so maybe primordially I want to breed with her so my kids are studs, but I just find it physically very attractive when a girl's got a Well, 1.00
00:57:10.000 you should find Art Crumb. 0.96
00:57:11.000 He lives in Paris.
00:57:12.000 You two could hang out. 1.00
00:57:12.000 You could just jerk off together. 1.00
00:57:14.000 Well, hold on, sir. 0.99
00:57:15.000 You could do the drawing.
00:57:15.000 Sir, hold on.
00:57:16.000 Hold on, sir. 1.00
00:57:17.000 Because then there's the other side of me that likes a super feminine, petite, curvy woman, and that might be who I'd rather cuddle with And date, whereas the other one I just want to have animal sex with. 1.00
00:57:32.000 And so there's this, I'm kind of pulled. 1.00
00:57:34.000 Yeah, welcome to being a man, motherfucker. 0.99
00:57:35.000 Why are you making this sound like it's a big, complicated issue? 1.00
00:57:37.000 I don't know, man.
00:57:38.000 I'm just saying.
00:57:39.000 I'm just saying.
00:57:40.000 Maybe I just like all different kinds of women. 1.00
00:57:41.000 You like coming over you like when I'm, this is what I'm into.
00:57:43.000 Like, I like black chicks, I like Asian chicks, and white chicks. 1.00
00:57:47.000 Maybe there's a problem.
00:57:48.000 You're right.
00:57:49.000 What I'm saying is I'm attracted to everybody.
00:57:51.000 Well, that's part of the problem with being a man, is that genetically you're designed to spread them genes around as much as possible to ensure the survival of the race.
00:58:01.000 However, that's not really necessary anymore. 0.99
00:58:03.000 Like, we used to die real young, we were eaten by things left and right, so we have this fucking insatiable instinct to fuck all the time and get rid of loads and make people. 0.96
00:58:12.000 But there's a lot of us now. 0.99
00:58:14.000 Like, we figured it out.
00:58:15.000 Somewhere along the line.
00:58:16.000 But we still have the genes of people that lived 10,000 years ago.
00:58:20.000 When your survival, it wasn't guaranteed at all.
00:58:23.000 And it was most likely that something would go wrong.
00:58:26.000 And so the likelihood of you staying alive past 30 or 40 was very low.
00:58:32.000 So there was like a frantic urge to live.
00:58:35.000 I think if we knew that we had way less time and that death was way more common.
00:58:41.000 14 year olds would be walking around pregnant. 0.94
00:58:43.000 Yeah, and that's how it is normally.
00:58:45.000 I think we decided somewhere along the line, rightly so, that's not healthy for our species.
00:58:52.000 It's not healthy for our culture.
00:58:53.000 It's not healthy for children to be burdened down by the responsibility of being a parent while they're still trying to figure it out.
00:58:59.000 And they'd probably do a way better job if they waited.
00:59:02.000 So all that stuff is sort of balancing itself out now because people are becoming more and more aware of it.
00:59:07.000 But we're still in the same genes. 0.99
00:59:10.000 We're still in the same fucking caveman genes. 0.98
00:59:12.000 The genetics have to be like constantly managed by the psyche, constantly managed by discipline, constantly managed by thinking, you know, whether it's yelling at somebody in traffic or whether it's all the other ridiculous male instincts that people have to, 0.98
00:59:28.000 whether it's to start wars or to kick their ass because they're rooting for the wrong team and all that stuff, it's based on like these ancient reward systems that we've got stuck in our bodies. 0.89
00:59:41.000 Excitement. 0.99
00:59:41.000 People do really weird things secretly for excitement. 0.99
00:59:45.000 Yes, just to get charged up.
00:59:46.000 Yeah, being naughty.
00:59:47.000 Naughty is a good word.
00:59:49.000 You're on the naughty list, Brian.
00:59:51.000 Naughty is huge because my friend, I was with my buddy one time and this giant woman. 1.00
00:59:58.000 Giant! 0.88
00:59:58.000 How big? 0.88
00:59:59.000 Oh my god!
01:00:00.000 No, I'm not joking.
01:00:02.000 300 pounds.
01:00:03.000 Like Gabby Garcia big?
01:00:03.000 Yeah, but curvier.
01:00:06.000 Way more fat on them. 1.00
01:00:08.000 Giant tits. 0.99
01:00:09.000 I mean, she was every bit of 6'5". 1.00
01:00:11.000 Oh my god.
01:00:12.000 I'm not exaggerating.
01:00:13.000 With her shoes off.
01:00:13.000 I'm not kidding.
01:00:14.000 Oh my god.
01:00:15.000 I'll tell you later. 1.00
01:00:16.000 Do you think she could beat your ass? 1.00
01:00:17.000 I'll get more detailed with this story later. 1.00
01:00:18.000 Do you think she could beat your ass? 1.00
01:00:20.000 She could eat me. 1.00
01:00:21.000 There's a whole...
01:00:22.000 But if you had a fight for your life, if you were in a hotel ballroom, you got locked in there with her, and she's coming full clip, and you realize this is for real.
01:00:28.000 If she had no training, maybe I could tire her out, but I'd have... 1.00
01:00:32.000 No, the answer is probably not.
01:00:34.000 Wow. 1.00
01:00:34.000 I'd fuck her up. 1.00
01:00:35.000 She's that big. 1.00
01:00:36.000 I'd beat her ass. 1.00
01:00:38.000 Come get some. 1.00
01:00:40.000 You're ready.
01:00:42.000 You're ready.
01:00:42.000 You get low...
01:00:44.000 If a giant woman... 1.00
01:00:46.000 I'll tell you right now...
01:00:47.000 There is a giant... 0.93
01:00:48.000 There is a size that a woman would hit where you... 1.00
01:00:51.000 Regardless you...
01:00:52.000 There is that number.
01:00:53.000 How tall and how heavy.
01:00:54.000 I can't hear this.
01:00:55.000 Just bet on me, dude.
01:00:56.000 Really? 1.00
01:00:57.000 I'm gonna kick her ass. 1.00
01:00:58.000 Alright. 1.00
01:00:58.000 No woman. 1.00
01:00:58.000 If I'm ever getting in a street fight with a 350-pound, 6'5 woman... 1.00
01:01:02.000 No woman on the planet. 1.00
01:01:03.000 I'm gonna kick her ass. 1.00
01:01:04.000 So she's there and I... And she says hi. 1.00
01:01:07.000 She recognizes me.
01:01:08.000 And I go, oh, hi. 0.61
01:01:09.000 I'm kidding, big giant women. 1.00
01:01:11.000 Don't try to beat me up. 0.83
01:01:12.000 Yeah.
01:01:12.000 These are just jokes.
01:01:13.000 These are all just silly conversations. 1.00
01:01:15.000 If you're a big giant woman, leave me the fuck alone. 1.00
01:01:17.000 Don't hurt me. 1.00
01:01:21.000 Just a bunch waiting outside the door.
01:01:23.000 Oh yeah? 1.00
01:01:24.000 Motherfucker? 1.00
01:01:25.000 She has a beard. 1.00
01:01:26.000 Are you sure you're a woman? 1.00
01:01:27.000 That's a dick on you. 1.00
01:01:28.000 This dude I know shot an antelope or some animal in Africa that was a hermaphrodite. 0.99
01:01:37.000 It was a female antelope with crazy horns, like these crazy antlers that curved in some weird way and were actually digging into its head. 1.00
01:01:46.000 It was actually a cull animal.
01:01:48.000 They had to put it down because the way its horn was growing, it was like literally growing into its head. 0.99
01:01:56.000 Damn, that's uncomfortable. 0.98
01:01:59.000 Yeah, it was a very weird case. 0.99
01:02:01.000 And they also, I guess they wanted to study its body because they were pretty sure it was a hermaphrodite.
01:02:05.000 Wow.
01:02:05.000 Yeah.
01:02:06.000 That's weird. 1.00
01:02:07.000 Fucked, man. 1.00
01:02:08.000 Again, all those genetic aberrations happen in nature. 1.00
01:02:11.000 Yeah, I was talking to this woman from South Africa recently at this party.
01:02:16.000 I told you the story about all the kids that, well, she grew up in, she lived in South Africa for a while, and it's really funny because she was talking about mountain lions and how hilarious it is that people are worried about mountain lions.
01:02:30.000 We would have to worry about the real lions.
01:02:34.000 Hippos, water buffalo, snakes.
01:02:36.000 All the above, man.
01:02:38.000 All the above.
01:02:39.000 But she was talking about kids in Silicon Valley that are having problems dealing with their hyper-successful parents and the lack of time and attention that's being paid to them.
01:02:54.000 And there's a gigantic... 1.00
01:02:58.000 Epidemic suicides and all kinds of crazy shit. 0.99
01:03:00.000 They're cutting each other and it was a really disturbing conversation. 0.99
01:03:04.000 And she called it what?
01:03:05.000 Well, they call it affluenza.
01:03:07.000 You know, that's the the term for young rich kids.
01:03:10.000 But the thing is like nobody cares.
01:03:12.000 Like they didn't ask to be rich, but we blame them for being rich.
01:03:15.000 So like you don't look at a young rich kid as like a young kid with problems.
01:03:18.000 You go, oh poor rich baby.
01:03:20.000 Right. 0.99
01:03:20.000 You know, like, that somehow or another the money that these kids have, you know, when they're 16, they have a fucking fresh BMW. The money provides connection and love and that you mean something to your parents. 0.99
01:03:32.000 Well, because it's so unattainable for so many folks, money and being rich like one of these kids seems like, well, they hit the lottery.
01:03:40.000 I'm supposed to feel bad for them.
01:03:42.000 But you don't realize that they didn't ask for that.
01:03:45.000 First of all, they didn't ask to be born that.
01:03:46.000 And it's not ideal.
01:03:47.000 It's not working out well.
01:03:49.000 You'd be way better off with happy, healthy parents that were around and went to your sports events and hung out with you and did things with you and were there all the time and gave you a feeling of comfort while you're growing up.
01:04:03.000 So you can grow up with a sense of security. 0.80
01:04:05.000 There's a lot of these kids that are growing up and they are all fucked up because their parents are never around. 0.89
01:04:10.000 So you don't feel like you matter. 0.96
01:04:12.000 In many ways you feel like you were thrown away.
01:04:16.000 And rampant drug abuse, man.
01:04:19.000 The amount of kids that are doing pain pills today is apparently just off the charts.
01:04:24.000 They're doing Adderall for studying and for examinations and they're doing pain pills all the time.
01:04:31.000 It's just become an epidemic with people. 0.98
01:04:34.000 They're so fucking easy to get. 0.97
01:04:36.000 I know they're trying to curb that. 0.93
01:04:37.000 They're trying to make them more difficult to get, but there's still a ton of money that's being pumped into the system from the manufacturers of these.
01:04:44.000 As you were talking about before, about the use of influence in politics, the company that makes fentanyl, is that how you say it?
01:04:51.000 I never figured out how to say it.
01:04:53.000 Fentanyl. 0.99
01:04:54.000 They spent a half of a fucking million dollars on ads in Arizona just to try to make medical marijuana illegal. 0.99
01:05:02.000 Try to do ads against them in their recreational... 1.00
01:05:07.000 Why would they give a fuck? 0.99
01:05:08.000 Why are they doing that? 0.99
01:05:09.000 Why would the makers of a pill...
01:05:12.000 Google that, too, because that's another thing I keep wondering about. 1.00
01:05:14.000 How much stronger is that shit than OxyContin? 1.00
01:05:17.000 Because it's much stronger. 1.00
01:05:18.000 I thought it was an elephant tranquilizer.
01:05:20.000 Maybe I'm wrong.
01:05:22.000 Is that what they were putting in the heroin and everybody was...
01:05:24.000 Dying.
01:05:24.000 Okay, that I think is an elephant tranquilizer.
01:05:28.000 Well, fentanyl, whatever it is, I don't know if it's an elephant tranquilizer.
01:05:32.000 They use it on elephants and people, but they definitely use it on people.
01:05:35.000 It's something like 200 times stronger, right?
01:05:38.000 I don't know.
01:05:40.000 We're trying to find that out.
01:05:41.000 I think it's at least...
01:05:43.000 I remember the number 10. It's inverse.com.
01:05:47.000 It looks like an okay story written on it.
01:05:50.000 It says it's 80 times as potent as morphine.
01:05:52.000 Oh my god.
01:05:53.000 There you go.
01:05:54.000 Which is hundreds of times the analgesic punch of heroin.
01:05:58.000 Whoa.
01:06:00.000 Jesus.
01:06:01.000 So there you go.
01:06:02.000 That's got to be good for you.
01:06:03.000 Well, this is what people are dropping dead off. 0.99
01:06:06.000 And the company that makes that shit is trying to put out ads or pay for the campaign against marijuana being recreationally legal, which is just fucking crazy. 1.00
01:06:20.000 It's crazy. 0.99
01:06:22.000 You know, I know that they think that they're gonna lose profit from marijuana being legal, so I know that they're acting out of a business purpose.
01:06:27.000 That's just what businesses do.
01:06:29.000 But you just expect them on something that's so fucking important culturally and such an important precedent.
01:06:36.000 Like, that any company that's against marijuana becoming legal, that it is such a damaging position to take.
01:06:44.000 And if you get away with it today, By the time people examine this, and by the time it's looked back on five, ten years from now, whatever it is, you're gonna look preposterous that you spent any money to try to make marijuana illegal.
01:06:57.000 There's no reason.
01:06:58.000 There's no reason why anyone Should step in and try to make it illegal.
01:07:05.000 It's the will of the people, and there's no medical evidence whatsoever that shows that it's even remotely as dangerous as a million different things that are already legal.
01:07:14.000 But see, that's sort of another example of what I was talking about before, which is that you can try to legislate and pass laws and enforce sort of your view of reality of what you think is good for people.
01:07:28.000 But it seems to me a better way to go is to win the idea.
01:07:32.000 The idea that marijuana is not as destructive, for example, in many ways, I'm not an expert, but in many ways to say alcohol, which is legal.
01:07:42.000 You don't even have to say I'm not an expert.
01:07:44.000 That's an absolutely scientifically proven fact.
01:07:48.000 But that took time to not only be sort of...
01:07:53.000 Enough experiment, just in real life, in real time, started to prove that to be true.
01:07:59.000 But then that idea and that experiment had to dissipate into the national or international collective conscience, right?
01:08:06.000 Well, a big part of that was because of Richard Nixon.
01:08:08.000 You know, Richard Nixon funded studies.
01:08:09.000 They put studies together to try to find out what are the bad things about marijuana.
01:08:14.000 They couldn't find anything.
01:08:15.000 No, this was way before that.
01:08:16.000 Well, Reefer Madness was the 1930s. 0.99
01:08:18.000 The shit that Nixon did, Nixon passed the sweeping psychedelic act of 1970. That made everything Schedule I. There was DMT and mushrooms and all that shit. 0.99
01:08:27.000 I didn't know Nixon did that. 0.99
01:08:28.000 Yeah, it was during his administration.
01:08:29.000 And they also, one of the things they did was they did these studies on marijuana, trying to find things that were bad.
01:08:35.000 They couldn't. 1.00
01:08:36.000 Those damn hippies. 1.00
01:08:37.000 And when the studies came up with favorable results, they buried them. 1.00
01:08:39.000 And this has also been proven fact. 1.00
01:08:41.000 So this is shit they knew for a long fucking time. 1.00
01:08:45.000 It's just a team thing. 1.00
01:08:47.000 It's going back to that same thing again.
01:08:48.000 There's pro and con.
01:08:50.000 There's right and left.
01:08:52.000 And even along this marijuana thing, there's a bunch of people that are scrambling to try to keep it illegal as long as possible so that it continues their profits with painkillers.
01:09:02.000 Painkillers are worried.
01:09:03.000 That if marijuana becomes legal, if marijuana, especially edible marijuana, which is incredibly potent but doesn't have any of the fucking downsides, doesn't have any of the negative effects, no one's dying from it, which is the biggest one. 0.95
01:09:16.000 Right.
01:09:16.000 And it's been shown to help so many people with seizures, so many different diseases, people that have AIDS, people that are on chemotherapy.
01:09:23.000 There's hundreds and hundreds of different things that it's been shown to help with, people with What is it a glaucoma?
01:09:32.000 What is that for the ocular pressure intraocular pressure relieves that it's amazing for inflammation for people that have back problems and all sorts of other issues Regarding pain and inflammatory issues that people have but these The things that would profit from keeping it illegal Are the same things that are killing people.
01:09:55.000 And the idea that they're allowed to do that and that no one steps in and no politicians talk about it being a huge evil and a real problem, it's one of the things that's left completely off the debate.
01:10:05.000 It's not to diminish sexual assault, because obviously that's really important.
01:10:08.000 It's not to diminish bribery.
01:10:09.000 Obviously that's really important and all this pay-to-play stuff and all these accusations of corruption on both sides.
01:10:15.000 It's all very important, but man, so's that.
01:10:18.000 Well, that is, and also learning how to distinguish.
01:10:22.000 And learning how to distinguish what you should label, for example, a psychedelic.
01:10:29.000 Well, not just that, but sometimes I wonder if...
01:10:33.000 If, when you call for the legalization of marijuana, which I would do of course, and I've always said that ultimately it's all about letting people make their own choices, but I wonder if it's important to distinguish between drugs, like do you think It certainly is.
01:10:50.000 That heroin and cocaine should also be legal?
01:10:53.000 I think, as an adult, as you, Brian Callen, the idea that me, as me, Joe Rogan, could tell you you can't do heroin is preposterous. 0.99
01:11:03.000 Who the fuck am I? Who am I to tell you? 0.99
01:11:06.000 Well, you can do it under a doctor's supervision, or you could do morphine.
01:11:08.000 You have to have a morphine drip.
01:11:10.000 You have a button, you press it, the morphine goes into your bloodstream.
01:11:12.000 Man, I don't know. 0.99
01:11:13.000 All I know is a lot of fucking people are dying from pain pills and politicians never discuss it. 1.00
01:11:19.000 And heroin. 1.00
01:11:19.000 Why don't they talk about it? 1.00
01:11:20.000 Just stop and think about it. 1.00
01:11:22.000 Is the big issue one super rich guy who's a pussy grabber? 0.99
01:11:26.000 Or is the big issue half a million people dying from cigarettes in this country alone every year? 0.99
01:11:34.000 Is that an issue?
01:11:34.000 How come that issue isn't discussed?
01:11:36.000 What if there was something else that was killing half a million people a year?
01:11:38.000 Wouldn't we freak out?
01:11:39.000 I agree 100%.
01:11:40.000 What if there was some new sport?
01:11:41.000 What if parkour was clamming a half a million kids every year? 0.94
01:11:44.000 Wouldn't you freak the fuck out? 0.98
01:11:46.000 Are you saying there are bigger, more challenging issues than a guy who is a groper? 0.99
01:11:50.000 I think that guy who's a groper, I think it's terrible to be a groper.
01:11:54.000 I think it's certainly something that should be discussed.
01:11:56.000 That's not the problem.
01:11:57.000 The problem is they're not discussing this other thing. 0.99
01:11:59.000 They're not discussing how many fucking people are hooked on painkillers. 0.96
01:12:02.000 It's a giant, massive epidemic and the idea that the same people that are selling those painkillers are actively working to make sure that marijuana stays illegal. 0.97
01:12:11.000 It lets you know that you're in a crazy system when the protectors and the politicians don't bring that up at all.
01:12:17.000 Because who's driving the narrative?
01:12:19.000 Think about who's driving...
01:12:20.000 Think about the people who are driving the narrative in the, for example, in the New York liberal media, right?
01:12:29.000 Why is it academics?
01:12:31.000 Why are academics and why is academia?
01:12:33.000 Why is that driving the narrative on everything from gender to even social issues? 0.82
01:12:38.000 That's simple.
01:12:39.000 They don't live in the real world, those people.
01:12:41.000 We assume they're the smarter ones.
01:12:42.000 They have theoretical knowledge, and I think there's a place for academics, and I think there's an obvious place for strong intellectual energy.
01:12:51.000 But, my God, there's no group more intolerant to new ideas in many ways.
01:12:56.000 I don't know about that.
01:12:58.000 I would say religious people are far more intolerant than academics. 0.97
01:13:01.000 I would think that academics on a whole would probably be very tolerant.
01:13:04.000 Depends.
01:13:04.000 They just lean left.
01:13:06.000 They just lean left almost exclusively, except when it comes to economic people.
01:13:10.000 I don't think they're tolerant at all.
01:13:11.000 In what way?
01:13:12.000 I think they suffer from collective madness, in fact.
01:13:15.000 Well, gender mania. 0.90
01:13:17.000 I think, look at this.
01:13:18.000 Let's take Trump.
01:13:19.000 I actually resent the fact that, first of all, Obviously, I've never been a fan of this, guys, but I resent the fact that people seem to be equating, equating, groping, and even kissing somebody or talking about it as Rape,
01:13:42.000 sexual assault. 0.99
01:13:43.000 Well, to an unwanted woman, hold on a second, to a woman who doesn't want it, if he comes up and grabs you on the pussy, that is sexual assault. 1.00
01:13:50.000 I would agree with that. 1.00
01:13:51.000 Right.
01:13:51.000 But that is one of the accusations, right?
01:13:54.000 Well, I want to distinguish between, is that sexual misconduct?
01:13:59.000 Is it sexual assault?
01:14:02.000 Well, it depends.
01:14:02.000 If a girl loves it, then it's neither.
01:14:06.000 Like if she pulls her panties to the side and like goes, oh daddy, go get it. 0.99
01:14:10.000 And like, woo, you found a freak.
01:14:12.000 Right. 1.00
01:14:12.000 You know, but you take a big fucking chance when you just grab the pussy. 1.00
01:14:15.000 She'd probably ask. 1.00
01:14:16.000 Well, you're an asshole. 1.00
01:14:17.000 She'd probably just say, hey, I'm thinking about grabbing your pussy. 1.00
01:14:20.000 What do you think? 1.00
01:14:20.000 You want to think about it for a while? 1.00
01:14:21.000 I'll be out here waiting.
01:14:23.000 Right.
01:14:23.000 You got to give her time too.
01:14:24.000 And not under pressure.
01:14:25.000 You don't want to be looming over.
01:14:26.000 He's a big guy.
01:14:27.000 It's like cast a large shadow.
01:14:29.000 No, but I think these are really important distinctions because otherwise people that are a woman who's held down, let's just take a terrible example. 0.63
01:14:37.000 A woman, a stranger breaks into her house, holds her down and rapes her. 0.99
01:14:40.000 Right. 1.00
01:14:40.000 We would all agree that that is fucking horrifying, right? 1.00
01:14:44.000 And if you found the guy, it'd be hard not to kill the guy and all that stuff. 0.99
01:14:47.000 Right. 0.94
01:14:47.000 But let's make a distinction. 0.94
01:14:50.000 Ready? 1.00
01:14:51.000 A big bully, a guy like Trump, comes up, grabs you, and puts his fingers in your mouth. 0.99
01:14:58.000 That's pretty invasive. 0.99
01:14:59.000 It's hot. 0.99
01:15:00.000 That's fucking invasive. 0.99
01:15:01.000 And you work for the guy, and you're scared to lose your job, and he grabs you, and he puts his fingers in your mouth, and he goes, come on, baby, give me a kiss. 0.96
01:15:09.000 And because you're so afraid and so overwhelmed, you don't know what to do, and he starts kissing you, and you're like, oh, Jesus, let this be over with.
01:15:15.000 I'm sure that's happened one million times in life with women. 1.00
01:15:18.000 This is why women, when they see that shit, they go, I've met a guy like that. 1.00
01:15:22.000 I've met 10 guys like that. 1.00
01:15:23.000 And that's why the reaction for women is like, fuck this guy. 1.00
01:15:26.000 He's going to fall by 14 points. 0.99
01:15:28.000 However, as citizens, and in this discussion in the law, you have to make a distinction, even the media, because if you start calling that rape, Or if you start calling that sexual assault versus, I don't know, sexual misconduct, or I don't know what the words are.
01:15:44.000 But wait, hold on a second.
01:15:45.000 If somebody grabs you and kisses you and you don't want them to do that, it is a form of assault.
01:15:52.000 It's not assault like punching you in the face, but it should be illegal to hold you and detain you and force a kiss on you.
01:16:02.000 You're violating that person's physical space.
01:16:04.000 Exactly.
01:16:05.000 You're violating their humanity because you're choosing to enforce your wants and needs over what they want.
01:16:10.000 Would you equate that with- Here's the problem. 0.96
01:16:13.000 Fucking you know and I know that there have been times in people's lives when someone has grabbed a woman and kissed her and she loved it and they wound up getting married and having kids. 0.99
01:16:22.000 You never fucking know. 1.00
01:16:23.000 Who the hell knows? 0.99
01:16:25.000 I mean, like, no one wants sexual assault, right?
01:16:27.000 No one wants anyone to have anything done to them against their will.
01:16:31.000 No one does that's rational or kind in any way, shape, or form.
01:16:34.000 But we all know there's crazy moments in life.
01:16:36.000 You know?
01:16:38.000 Weird things happen with people.
01:16:40.000 People have had sex without saying a word to each other.
01:16:42.000 Dan Bilzerian was just talking about it the other day.
01:16:44.000 Sure.
01:16:44.000 He met some girl in Paris.
01:16:45.000 He purposely went out of his way to not say a word, see if he could do it, and had sex with a girl. 0.73
01:16:50.000 There's no consent there.
01:16:51.000 It's just implied consent based on physical movement.
01:16:54.000 So in other words, it's confusing.
01:16:58.000 Yes, but my point is, you shouldn't compare worst versions of rape.
01:17:03.000 And say that this version of what you would call sexual assault is not that big of a deal. 0.96
01:17:08.000 But you're kind of saying that by saying that you're diminishing the horribleness of the other people's experiences by actually getting physically raped and with a knife to their neck and getting fucked by a group of guys. 0.95
01:17:22.000 I'm saying there has to be a difference, right? 0.96
01:17:23.000 There is a difference.
01:17:25.000 The physical action is different in every single one. 1.00
01:17:29.000 I mean, it's different in a girl gets pulled over and a cop makes her suck his dick to get out of a ticket. 0.99
01:17:35.000 People have done that, right? 1.00
01:17:37.000 Yeah, that's a different thing than a girl who grabs her male employee's dick all the time. 1.00
01:17:43.000 I mean, that's unwanted and he doesn't want to lose his job, but that's not as threatening. 0.99
01:17:47.000 How about this?
01:17:48.000 There's a bunch of different experiences, is my point.
01:17:51.000 Anyone who's been grabbed, that doesn't mean by saying that it's not as bad as getting raped. 0.91
01:17:59.000 That's like saying, yeah, of course, it's not as bad as getting raped and murdered. 0.99
01:18:02.000 It's not as bad as getting raped and murdered and they make you eat yourself before they kill you. 0.99
01:18:06.000 You can keep going and getting worse and worse and worse.
01:18:09.000 What I'm saying is that I feel there's a movement to treat all the perpetrators of that kind of behavior as one.
01:18:17.000 And I think that's what's dangerous.
01:18:19.000 So, for example, you have a guy who meets a girl.
01:18:23.000 She drinks 15 margaritas.
01:18:26.000 You guys are making out.
01:18:27.000 You're dancing.
01:18:28.000 You go.
01:18:29.000 He follows her.
01:18:30.000 I don't know what happens.
01:18:31.000 Next thing you know, somebody sees her.
01:18:32.000 He's on top of her, making out with her, and he's fingering her.
01:18:35.000 And she's out cold.
01:18:36.000 She's out cold.
01:18:37.000 She's out cold.
01:18:38.000 Now, hold on.
01:18:38.000 Hold on.
01:18:39.000 Now, in California, that's not considered rape. 0.98
01:18:43.000 Somebody had to sit down and go, what's rape? 1.00
01:18:45.000 Let's define it. 1.00
01:18:46.000 Fingers in the mouth, fingers in the vagina, or penis in the vagina. 1.00
01:18:49.000 We've got to make these definitions. 1.00
01:18:50.000 Okay.
01:18:50.000 And the law tends to make very strong distinctions, and those distinctions have been thought about and fought over and stuff like that.
01:18:58.000 And then we penalize people accordingly.
01:19:01.000 Okay.
01:19:01.000 Okay?
01:19:02.000 Okay.
01:19:03.000 However, it seems to me that in, for example, on certain colleges, they now have investigative committees.
01:19:11.000 Investigative committees who decide whether or not this was sexual assault or whether or not this was rape.
01:19:18.000 Where I think actually that should be, anytime there's sexual assault or rape, Shouldn't that be the police's job?
01:19:29.000 Shouldn't that be reported immediately to the police?
01:19:32.000 And isn't that their jurisdiction?
01:19:34.000 Well, there's a lot of lawsuits based on that.
01:19:36.000 You know, the Occidental College one.
01:19:38.000 You know, that one where a guy and a girl were exchanging text messages.
01:19:41.000 You know, she says, you bring in condoms.
01:19:44.000 He says, yeah, I got condoms.
01:19:46.000 Okay, they're ready to get laid.
01:19:48.000 She texts her friend and says, I'm about to get laid. 0.94
01:19:51.000 They have sex and he gets kicked out for sexual assault because he's drunk and she's drunk.
01:19:56.000 So he gets kicked out of the school, she stays in the school, and he's the perpetrator. 0.99
01:20:01.000 But meanwhile, there's so much evidence that they're both just young kids who got drunk and fucked. 0.99
01:20:05.000 There you go. 0.99
01:20:06.000 And they're turning it into a crime.
01:20:07.000 And his life is ruined. 0.77
01:20:09.000 He's suing the shit out of them, and I hope he gets enough money so he can live in a Jay-Z video for the rest of his life. 1.00
01:20:14.000 Fuck them. 1.00
01:20:15.000 Right. 1.00
01:20:15.000 Look, any goddamn person who has ever been 18, or however old these people were, and been away from your parents for the first time and been drunk, And hooked up with a girl, like, you don't know, there's nothing evil going on there. 1.00
01:20:30.000 This is like two people that want to be together, that get together. 0.99
01:20:33.000 Like, to call that rape in any way, shape, or form, that's crazy.
01:20:36.000 That's crazy.
01:20:37.000 How about this, though?
01:20:38.000 See, that I agree with you. 0.99
01:20:39.000 But that's so different than pussy grabbing, man. 1.00
01:20:42.000 Pussy grabbing and pushing people up against the wall and kissing them, that is way more assaulty. 1.00
01:20:47.000 See, that's way more a violation of your physical space. 1.00
01:20:49.000 I agree. 1.00
01:20:50.000 See, look, if a big guy did that to me, if a big guy just grabbed me and kissed me, I'd be like, oh my god, motherfucker, what do I do? 1.00
01:20:56.000 I don't want this guy to kill me. 1.00
01:20:57.000 You know, some giant, seven-foot-tall, 350-pound dude wants to kiss you. 0.97
01:21:01.000 That's what it's like if you're a woman and a guy like Trump grabs you.
01:21:04.000 That's right. 0.99
01:21:05.000 If you're a dude and you're into having big dudes grab you and kiss you, you're like, fucking bonus. 0.99
01:21:10.000 Right. 0.99
01:21:10.000 I nailed it today. 0.99
01:21:12.000 But I'm saying that there is a movement to, again, the enemy is there's a movement to lump all behavior under the same sort of dark umbrella.
01:21:22.000 See, I don't think there is. 0.94
01:21:23.000 Because, man, I think there's a movement to make people more aware of fucked up behavior like that. 0.97
01:21:27.000 Well, hold on. 0.97
01:21:27.000 How about this? 0.97
01:21:28.000 This is where I think things get crazy. 1.00
01:21:30.000 A woman has sex. 1.00
01:21:31.000 She gets drunk, she has sex with a guy. 0.96
01:21:34.000 And then she speaks to somebody who says, you were drunk, and do you have regrets about it?
01:21:39.000 I have regrets about it.
01:21:40.000 Well, if you have regrets, then that's rape. 1.00
01:21:44.000 Now, somebody says that to her, and she goes to a committee in her school who does an investigation.
01:21:51.000 And now you're being investigated because this girl has regret six months later.
01:21:56.000 This is where, in my opinion, madness starts to...
01:22:01.000 This is very scary.
01:22:02.000 It's very scary because now you have mob mentality over there.
01:22:06.000 It's all he's hearsay.
01:22:07.000 The worst thing you could be branded as a sex criminal. 1.00
01:22:10.000 My God, it'll ruin your whole fucking life. 1.00
01:22:12.000 And it's easy to get that distinction. 1.00
01:22:13.000 Right.
01:22:13.000 Right.
01:22:14.000 All you have to do is have one person who hates you accuse you of it.
01:22:16.000 There you go.
01:22:17.000 And bam. 0.99
01:22:17.000 So now what? 0.99
01:22:18.000 So I'm just saying, we better start making these distinctions in our minds.
01:22:22.000 Forget the law.
01:22:22.000 But that's where the white knights will step in and say, what is most important is women's safety.
01:22:27.000 And if I have to be wrongly accused...
01:22:29.000 I had a conversation with a guy who actually said that on a podcast.
01:22:32.000 He said that if he was wrongly accused, that he'd be happier with that...
01:22:38.000 Than with a woman facing some sort of sexual assault.
01:22:42.000 First of all, as if they're in any way, shape, or form connected.
01:22:46.000 First of all, that goes back to my point. 0.88
01:22:47.000 You being wrongly accused means you have a shitty system and someone lied.
01:22:51.000 That shouldn't be the case at all. 0.59
01:22:53.000 That shouldn't be an option.
01:22:54.000 That goes back to my point.
01:22:55.000 You're not going to liberate women by falsely accusing men of rape.
01:23:00.000 Even worse so, this guy's signing up to be the diminished party.
01:23:04.000 Signing up to be the more vulnerable party.
01:23:06.000 I'll take the hit.
01:23:07.000 It's a lie. 0.99
01:23:07.000 I'll take the hit. 0.99
01:23:08.000 I'm a white knight.
01:23:09.000 Yeah.
01:23:09.000 It is a lie.
01:23:10.000 And it's not applicable.
01:23:11.000 It's also not happening to him when he's talking about it.
01:23:14.000 If it was happening, you'd be freaking out, screaming your innocence from a rooftop, yelling about how you used to be a feminist. 1.00
01:23:20.000 I can't believe this is happening to me.
01:23:22.000 Because it's an injustice.
01:23:23.000 Yeah, it is an injustice.
01:23:24.000 And that's what I mean.
01:23:25.000 But there's a gang of injustices.
01:23:27.000 The grabbing and the... 1.00
01:23:28.000 Pussy grabbing. 1.00
01:23:29.000 That's an injustice too, right? 1.00
01:23:31.000 It's just like, where's the level?
01:23:33.000 And I think one thing as men that it's easy to think of is it's easy to forget that When you're a chick, there's a whole other element when you're dealing with men. 0.99
01:23:45.000 And that element is size, strength, and even though violence is highly unlikely in any workplace scenario, you still feel like your body knows that if the shit went down, Donald Trump could choke you to death. 0.99
01:24:01.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:24:02.000 Don't you think your body would know that?
01:24:04.000 Not only would your body know that, but women also know. 1.00
01:24:06.000 If he grabbed you, he's bigger than you.
01:24:08.000 You know that, right?
01:24:09.000 Yeah, he is.
01:24:10.000 If he grabbed you and he wanted to kiss you and just grabbed you and kissed you, would that be assault?
01:24:13.000 If he grabbed you.
01:24:14.000 You and him alone.
01:24:15.000 He grabs your package.
01:24:17.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:24:18.000 And he shoves his tongue down your throat. 0.93
01:24:19.000 He pins you up against the wall. 0.94
01:24:20.000 Is that assault?
01:24:20.000 Yeah.
01:24:21.000 I'd beat his ass though. 1.00
01:24:22.000 What if you're hard? 1.00
01:24:27.000 Does he smell good?
01:24:28.000 Does he have Trump breath?
01:24:30.000 I think you're totally right about these committees in campuses and in universities.
01:24:36.000 And I also think there's a real problem in telling young kids they're victims when they might not necessarily be victims.
01:24:41.000 You know, you enforce this sort of victim mentality and then you get people really hooked on outrage.
01:24:47.000 Getting hooked on outrage as opposed to getting hooked on acceptance and working on your own self and your own thing and your own issues.
01:24:54.000 But you're also taking power away from women when you do that. 1.00
01:24:56.000 So what he's saying is that, okay, so women have to be protected at all costs and that's the most important thing.
01:25:03.000 I will be there.
01:25:05.000 I will have legislation there.
01:25:07.000 I will have committees there.
01:25:08.000 And all of us are going to protect women on campus.
01:25:11.000 And because they can't protect themselves, they can't look out for danger.
01:25:16.000 They can't see.
01:25:17.000 Because women most of the time know that even 100 men are safe, there's always one psychotic out there. 0.99
01:25:22.000 Let me stop you there because we're going to go back and forth because you and I agree on this.
01:25:26.000 But here's the question.
01:25:27.000 All right.
01:25:29.000 How do you stop campus sexual assault? 0.99
01:25:31.000 Now that we know that there's a lot of it where they're trying to stop or getting people in trouble for shit, that's not really sexual assault. 1.00
01:25:38.000 But we also know that there's a lot of guys that are fucking douchebags and guaranteed someone's going to get drunk. 0.99
01:25:43.000 It's happened before. 0.99
01:25:44.000 They've caught them on tape or people are passed out.
01:25:46.000 There's a train of dudes out the bedroom. 0.99
01:25:48.000 How do you stop people from doing shit like that? 0.99
01:25:51.000 That's the real question. 0.99
01:25:53.000 It's not like accusing more people because then you're going to get people that are even more frustrated with the opposite If you find out that guys are getting locked up in jail for doing the exact same thing their girlfriend was, both being drunk and both having sex, and the guy all of a sudden is a sexual predator because he's drunk...
01:26:09.000 There are two ways to do it.
01:26:10.000 The first is you raise awareness, but the second is you learn where not to place your energy.
01:26:16.000 You learn where not to be pointing your guns.
01:26:18.000 Because when you do the other, when you diminish...
01:26:21.000 Yeah, that's what I just said.
01:26:22.000 You are not making the problem better.
01:26:24.000 So we're wasting a lot of time and energy By sort of condemning and going after this angle, when we should be...
01:26:35.000 It goes back to that wonderful saying, I don't care what you think, it's how you think.
01:26:39.000 What's more important is not what you think, but how you think. 1.00
01:26:41.000 It's like a woman who says, these radical Islamists are bastards, and in my opinion, we should just eradicate all of them. 1.00
01:26:48.000 Well, you sound like a Nazi. 1.00
01:26:49.000 You're thinking the way the Nazis and ISIS, you're thinking exactly how your enemy and the person you're criticizing is.
01:26:54.000 So it's really methodology here.
01:26:56.000 Hey, you would know this.
01:26:57.000 This is a good question for you because somebody wrote this the other day about how when what we call ISIS, when we first started having conflicts in the Middle East after the Iraq War, it's a Sunni and a Shia in Iraq, and then there's all these other groups and factions.
01:27:14.000 There's the Taliban, there's Al-Qaeda, and there's Boko Haram, there's all these different factions.
01:27:20.000 We sort of kind of lumped them all together and decided they were one big enemy.
01:27:24.000 That's a fact?
01:27:25.000 And I want you to say this like that guy in the drug commercial that's eating the salad.
01:27:29.000 And the guy goes, see, you're saying that if I buy drugs, I support terrorism.
01:27:33.000 That's a fact.
01:27:35.000 F-A-C-T, fact.
01:27:37.000 I think to draw the distinctions, though, Taliban, what is Talib?
01:27:42.000 It means student.
01:27:43.000 So if you're a Taliban, you're a student of the Quran. 0.98
01:27:46.000 You know, you're a student.
01:27:49.000 Al-Qaeda means the base, loosely translated, sort of, this is the base, this is...
01:27:55.000 Is this what they call themselves?
01:27:57.000 I believe they do, yes.
01:27:59.000 I think these are names that were given to themselves.
01:28:02.000 And then Boko Haram, Haram in Arabic means bad. 0.95
01:28:07.000 Like you say, like in Arabic, a lot of times when something happens that's bad, you always say, Ya Haram, you know, like that's fucked up, you know, almost. 0.94
01:28:14.000 So Boko Haram is sort of a slang, I believe, loosely translated idea that everything Western is bad. 0.96
01:28:22.000 Whoa.
01:28:22.000 Okay?
01:28:23.000 That's outrageous. 1.00
01:28:25.000 What kind of car do those fucks drive? 1.00
01:28:27.000 It also happens to be the fact and the case that these are all Islamic movements. 0.99
01:28:33.000 But when you say Islamic movements, be careful because what you're really talking about is puritanical. 0.86
01:28:38.000 The notion that there is a puritanical strain.
01:28:40.000 There's only one form of Islam. 0.60
01:28:41.000 And that Islam is the Islam that Muhammad the Prophet preached in the... 0.85
01:28:45.000 What century is it?
01:28:47.000 The 13th or 15th or whatever it is.
01:28:49.000 So...
01:28:51.000 That is, if there's any glue to those groups, it is that they essentially adhere to a very strident puritanical form of Islam with no room for interpretation.
01:29:03.000 There is only right and wrong.
01:29:07.000 They are willing to resort to what they would consider to be jihad, the root of which means struggle, but what they consider to be, you know, violence is the only option, and Islam must sail in on a sea of blood, because that's the only way it happens. 0.93
01:29:23.000 So, there's all this sort of idea that, you know, we'll use this word.
01:29:27.000 How do you fix that?
01:29:28.000 So, that again, what is that?
01:29:30.000 That's an idea.
01:29:31.000 It's an ideology.
01:29:33.000 You have to kill the bad guys, but you also have to win the war place of ideas.
01:29:37.000 I mean the battlefield of ideas. 0.79
01:29:38.000 That's very important.
01:29:39.000 Not only that, when the casualties are so one-sided in terms of like all of it is taking place in one part of the world versus in our part of the world where we're engaging in a completely different spot in the country.
01:29:50.000 It makes martyrs.
01:29:51.000 It makes a lot of people get excited about joining the cause.
01:29:55.000 They see the imbalance and the conflict.
01:29:57.000 They also see, though, that when they go through Istanbul Airport and they get into Syria and they die really quickly, they're starting to realize very quickly that it's also a death sentence. 0.99
01:30:08.000 You don't want to fuck with the Peshmerga. 0.99
01:30:10.000 You don't want to fuck with the American special forces. 1.00
01:30:13.000 I mean, these guys are just getting... 0.99
01:30:20.000 I have a real issue with ISIS and ISIL. They keep changing their name back and forth.
01:30:28.000 Wasn't it ISI at one point in time?
01:30:30.000 It just means Islamic State, right? 0.94
01:30:33.000 Too many different...
01:30:35.000 ISIS's stick with one. 0.90
01:30:37.000 You're a new band.
01:30:38.000 Can't keep changing your name.
01:30:39.000 They want to create a caliphate.
01:30:40.000 They want to create an Islamic state, which means there are no... 0.99
01:30:43.000 Those boundaries, Syria, remember Lebanon, those were British boundaries.
01:30:47.000 Those were created by the British after World War I. In some cases, World War II. But for the most part, those are British boundaries.
01:30:55.000 That's so recent.
01:30:56.000 Think about how recent that is, folks.
01:30:58.000 Very recent. 0.96
01:30:58.000 It's ridiculous. 0.96
01:30:59.000 It's not even 100 years. 0.83
01:31:00.000 It's nothing.
01:31:01.000 I think that the problem with Islamic fundamentalism is not as much a worry because they're not offering anything. 0.99
01:31:07.000 Communism had something that lasted, that ideology lasted 70 years.
01:31:12.000 But I think it lasted so long because communism was something that you could kind of, there was a compassionate Element to it, you know, don't believe in God, believe in reason, and let's live on communism and all share and be nice to each other.
01:31:25.000 That idea is pretty potent, especially the young people who are trying to figure the world out and who love each other.
01:31:32.000 Bernie Sanders.
01:31:33.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:31:34.000 Goddamn commie, right? 1.00
01:31:36.000 Well, he's definitely a socialist. 0.98
01:31:37.000 Don't you think if Bernie Sanders stepped in right now, he would win?
01:31:40.000 Like, if he ran as an independent, he'd be like, look, I can't let you people do this. 1.00
01:31:44.000 Fuck the Democrats. 1.00
01:31:45.000 I'm going independent. 1.00
01:31:46.000 You don't need the libertarian.
01:31:48.000 They don't know what they're doing.
01:31:48.000 I can do this.
01:31:49.000 We can figure this out, folks.
01:31:50.000 This is a disaster.
01:31:51.000 It's too old.
01:31:52.000 How dare you?
01:31:53.000 He just looks too old.
01:31:54.000 Step in.
01:31:54.000 Step in right now.
01:31:55.000 He's got shitty posture. 0.97
01:31:56.000 He needs one of those neck things you're hanging from the doorway. 0.96
01:31:58.000 Yeah, he looks too old and he's just too, uh...
01:32:01.000 Please, man, don't forget about what he looks like.
01:32:03.000 He almost got in.
01:32:04.000 He got real close.
01:32:06.000 Look, man, I think also that Bernie Sanders...
01:32:09.000 How dare you say such horrible things about him?
01:32:12.000 He's pretty...
01:32:13.000 I just think people...
01:32:17.000 He's not very presidential.
01:32:18.000 And the presidency is a symbolic post as well.
01:32:22.000 It's very much a symbolic post.
01:32:24.000 Right.
01:32:24.000 Listen to what you just said.
01:32:25.000 He's too old.
01:32:27.000 He's too old looking.
01:32:29.000 He doesn't seem very presidential.
01:32:30.000 That's what the electorate would say.
01:32:32.000 But why would you say that, though?
01:32:33.000 Well, that's what they...
01:32:34.000 No, I'm saying that's why he wouldn't win.
01:32:37.000 You don't think that if he stepped in now, as an independent, that he would have a real chance.
01:32:40.000 At the very least, he would confuse the fuck out of the system.
01:32:43.000 Because there's a giant movement of people that wanted to see him in place.
01:32:47.000 They wanted to see him as a Democratic representative.
01:32:49.000 Yeah, and those people would be super energized if he did step in.
01:32:51.000 I don't know.
01:32:52.000 I don't know.
01:32:53.000 I don't know about that.
01:32:54.000 Oh, wow.
01:32:54.000 Maybe.
01:32:55.000 I think for sure.
01:32:56.000 Maybe.
01:32:56.000 I think for sure.
01:32:57.000 I think there's still a giant movement of people out there that love that guy and love that he seemed to be like a guy who wasn't greedy.
01:33:03.000 He seemed to be a guy who wasn't corrupt.
01:33:05.000 Like, how is this possible?
01:33:06.000 I don't think he is corrupt, and I don't think he is.
01:33:07.000 I don't think he is either.
01:33:09.000 But that's the number one issue with someone like the Clintons.
01:33:13.000 And then the thing is that everybody thinks that that's the only way to do it.
01:33:17.000 People that support the left, the people that are really into being Democrats, they have this thing that they've sort of resigned themselves to.
01:33:25.000 Hey, this is politics.
01:33:26.000 This is how they do it.
01:33:27.000 This is politics as usual.
01:33:29.000 When you have an example of a guy like Bernie Sanders, you go, well, it doesn't have to be.
01:33:33.000 Like, look at that guy.
01:33:34.000 Like, that guy didn't do it.
01:33:36.000 Like, how come they have to do this?
01:33:37.000 They have to get that money to speak? 1.00
01:33:38.000 They have to do all this shit? 0.99
01:33:39.000 They have to talk to the banks? 1.00
01:33:41.000 They have to?
01:33:42.000 Are you sure they have to?
01:33:43.000 Or is it just, this is what the people that do the things that you like the most, they also do these things.
01:33:49.000 Is that okay?
01:33:50.000 That's okay for you?
01:33:51.000 Sometimes I think that Things start to happen by default.
01:33:55.000 So if you started, let's just say we could kind of scramble everything up and go back to set point zero.
01:34:02.000 I feel like in 30 years, we'd be right back to where we started.
01:34:07.000 Somebody was talking about factory farming.
01:34:09.000 I was talking to a guy who has been in the food business forever, and I was talking about, there's a book called The Dorito Effect.
01:34:15.000 About how food flavoring, when scientists figured out how to make a corn chip taste like a taco, it kind of changed everything because we were able to isolate flavors.
01:34:24.000 There was a machine that allowed us to...
01:34:26.000 Because we didn't know why a strawberry tasted like a strawberry or an orange tasted like an orange.
01:34:30.000 And I had this guy on my podcast on the Brian Callen show.
01:34:33.000 And the guy writes this book about how food flavoring changed everything.
01:34:40.000 The way we eat, and it allowed us to take very non-nutritious food and make it nutritious.
01:34:48.000 I'm trying to figure out how you're going to bring this back to factory farming if we end it now, we'll be back around there in 30 years.
01:34:52.000 And he was talking about how we need to get back to sort of, you know, family farming and heirloom farming and stuff.
01:34:57.000 But I talked to this guy who was in the food business, and he said, you know, the problem with that is that family farms are a great idea, and we do probably need more family farms, but what would happen is, probably in 20 years, we'd be back to factory farming.
01:35:09.000 I said, what do you mean?
01:35:09.000 He said, well, what would happen is that some farms wouldn't be as efficient, or they wouldn't be as good, and another farm's better.
01:35:15.000 And that farm would say, let me buy you a farm. 0.89
01:35:17.000 I'd do a better job.
01:35:18.000 And in that, he'd say, let me buy this farm.
01:35:20.000 And then all of a sudden, he'd buy all the farms in this area because he's really good at organization automation and everything else.
01:35:24.000 And that would start to happen.
01:35:26.000 Then a bigger company would come along and say, let me buy all your farms, man.
01:35:28.000 You've got market share here.
01:35:30.000 And I can do this even better because there's a better way to do it.
01:35:32.000 And not only that, keep the prices stable because we're going to have a lot of eggs.
01:35:37.000 So when IHOP, IHOP doesn't have to say, well, today, since we only get our eggs from a local source, today the eggs are...
01:35:44.000 Five dollars, whereas yesterday were $3.99.
01:35:47.000 That's kind of what would happen because it would depend on production, yield, and distribution.
01:35:52.000 And so he was kind of saying, you know, it's nice to think that we need family farming, but chances are, with such a huge population that we have to feed the way we do as quickly as we do, we'd probably be back to, hey, we're running out of chickens.
01:36:05.000 Who can make a chicken that can mature in six weeks?
01:36:07.000 Well, that's the big issue.
01:36:08.000 The big issue is the population.
01:36:10.000 And that big issue...
01:36:13.000 People do their best.
01:36:15.000 They do their best to recycle.
01:36:16.000 They do their best to try to figure out how to pollute the least and consume the least and leave the smallest carbon footprint.
01:36:24.000 Some people are very conscious about it, but there's a lot of things that people overlook.
01:36:28.000 And one of them is all the vegetables that you get from the grocery store.
01:36:31.000 No matter what, if you think you are somehow another karma-free because you're only eating vegetables, man, I hate to tell you, but that whole thing of growing vegetables in mass is only slightly less controversial than growing animals in mass.
01:36:47.000 It's all weird.
01:36:48.000 There's a lot of displacement of wildlife, there's a lot of pollution of the environment due to pesticides, the runoff from the salt and sea that I was telling you about.
01:36:56.000 That's all directly attributed to farming and most of it is, you know, agriculture. 1.00
01:37:00.000 It's fucking pesticides and shit. 1.00
01:37:02.000 It all flows down river and you're fucked. 1.00
01:37:05.000 And there's a lot of other issues. 1.00
01:37:07.000 First of all, it's not natural.
01:37:09.000 It's not natural to keep growing things in one spot.
01:37:11.000 That is just not how the world is supposed to be designed.
01:37:13.000 It's supposed to be a gigantic cycle of animals dying and their bodies rotting and their bodies fueling the plants that they actually eat and then animals eat them and they die and their bodies rot and fuel the plants that grow around them.
01:37:29.000 We've circumvented that thing with these giant things we call cities.
01:37:32.000 We figured out a way to stack all these people on top of each other and then we had to figure out a way to get them all food because the fucking buildings kept growing and the people kept needing more and more and more and they're running out of room. 1.00
01:37:42.000 Fuck! 1.00
01:37:43.000 And so that's the problem. 1.00
01:37:45.000 The problem is we got the cart way ahead of the train.
01:37:48.000 We're way ahead of it.
01:37:50.000 And we didn't anticipate for seven billion people.
01:37:53.000 We didn't anticipate for 300 plus million Americans.
01:37:55.000 And we're kind of doing it right now. 0.66
01:37:57.000 But even with our vegetables, we're fucking up giant chunks of land.
01:38:02.000 You know, even with our vegetables.
01:38:05.000 And you think it's not easy, like this idea that it's easy to feed a bunch of people, like 20 million people with a vegan diet. 0.86
01:38:13.000 Goddammit, it's not.
01:38:14.000 It's not easy to feed 20 million people with any kind of diet.
01:38:17.000 It requires a lot of resources.
01:38:20.000 And organization and, you know, sort of consolidation, probably.
01:38:25.000 I don't know, but I would imagine...
01:38:26.000 I was not saying factory farming for animals is awesome.
01:38:29.000 It's disgusting.
01:38:29.000 It's scary that it got this far.
01:38:31.000 And it got this far while we weren't paying attention to it.
01:38:34.000 All of us. 0.99
01:38:35.000 I think pretty much all Americans at one point in their life had to be told of factory farming and then went, what the fuck? 0.98
01:38:41.000 Like, this wasn't something that was discussed when we were in high school. 0.97
01:38:44.000 When I was in college, there was never a word.
01:38:46.000 I was barely in college, by the way.
01:38:49.000 But...
01:38:50.000 When I was of college age, when Brian was in college, we're the same age.
01:38:55.000 Anyway, what I'm saying is, no one discussed it.
01:38:58.000 It wasn't this gigantic issue.
01:39:00.000 I don't think we were quite as aware.
01:39:01.000 That's another creepy thing is those ag-gag laws, where it's illegal to film these horrific conditions that pigs...
01:39:08.000 The chickens have to live in. 0.99
01:39:10.000 You can go to jail for letting people know about animal torture that's being taken place where they're hitting a fucking cow in the head with a wrench. 1.00
01:39:18.000 I saw this crazy video where this guy crowbars a cow in the head. 0.99
01:39:21.000 The first time I ever learned about factory farming was there was a pamphlet in my college and they were talking about how smart pigs are and how they showed a picture of a pig chewing the bars in the pen it was in.
01:39:34.000 And how pigs go crazy because they want to roam, but they're too smart to just sit in that pen.
01:39:39.000 And I got so claustrophobic that I didn't eat bacon for a year out of compassion.
01:39:43.000 I was like, I can't eat bacon now!
01:39:44.000 Took him a year, and then he was right back on the bacon train.
01:39:46.000 No, and then I read a book called Fit for Life, which was all about being a vegetarian.
01:39:51.000 Try that for about six days.
01:39:52.000 Didn't work for me.
01:39:53.000 I just can't do it.
01:39:55.000 Well, vegetarian is way more healthy than just going straight vegan.
01:39:59.000 When I say way more healthy, meaning that it's easier to be way more healthy.
01:40:03.000 You can pull off the vegan thing if you're super on the ball with your essential fats, and you make sure you take, what is it, DHEA? What is the omega-3s and 6s that you can get from, what the fuck is that stuff called? 0.94
01:40:18.000 You get from kelp? 0.84
01:40:24.000 Is it flaxseed?
01:40:25.000 I thought it was flaxseed.
01:40:26.000 Well, there is flaxseed, but apparently the biological stuff is better.
01:40:30.000 There's omega-3s and 6s that you can get.
01:40:33.000 Isn't kelp an animal, though?
01:40:35.000 No, it's a plant.
01:40:36.000 Kelp is?
01:40:37.000 I'm thinking about krill.
01:40:39.000 Oh, yeah.
01:40:40.000 That's an animal.
01:40:41.000 That's another thing that Sam Harris was telling me, is that mollusks... 1.00
01:40:47.000 At least if you look at them on paper, there's more of an argument to be made that plants are intelligent than mollusks.
01:40:53.000 Really? 0.99
01:40:54.000 Yeah, mollusks, they don't feel shit. 1.00
01:40:55.000 They're just little blobs of snot. 1.00
01:40:57.000 They're just living cum. 1.00
01:40:59.000 Living cum that lives in a shell. 1.00
01:41:01.000 They're weird.
01:41:02.000 They're weird little things, and apparently they're super, super primitive.
01:41:07.000 We decide that they are an animal that should not be eaten, whereas a plant is something that should be eaten, based on whether or not they move.
01:41:16.000 Wait, wait, what's a scallop?
01:41:17.000 That's not the same as a mollusk?
01:41:18.000 Well, a scallop is a mollusk.
01:41:20.000 A mollusk is like clams, mussels, scallops.
01:41:22.000 There's a lot of different shelled organisms.
01:41:24.000 But they're super, super, super primitive.
01:41:27.000 They don't have nerve endings.
01:41:28.000 Really?
01:41:29.000 Yeah, they don't feel pain.
01:41:30.000 That's the other thing about lobsters.
01:41:32.000 Lobsters, as creepy and weird as they are, apparently they don't feel pain.
01:41:35.000 Really?
01:41:36.000 They're too primitive to feel pain.
01:41:37.000 There's a great essay by David Foster Wallace called Consider the Lobster, and it's all about this.
01:41:42.000 Yeah, I don't know.
01:41:43.000 I mean, there's a thing called the Lobster Liberation Organization that break into restaurants and they take lobsters and they throw them back in the ocean.
01:41:50.000 What kind of a radical group?
01:41:53.000 How do you recruit for that group?
01:41:56.000 I just want to get that phone call from jail.
01:41:58.000 Dad, I'm in jail.
01:42:00.000 What'd you do, son?
01:42:01.000 Don't be mad.
01:42:01.000 You're running from the law.
01:42:02.000 You're getting a fist fight.
01:42:04.000 What did you do, son?
01:42:05.000 Read this pamphlet before you judge me.
01:42:07.000 No, Dad.
01:42:07.000 No, Dad.
01:42:07.000 I let a lobster free.
01:42:10.000 What?
01:42:11.000 I let lobsters free.
01:42:12.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:42:13.000 Oh, those giant cunty roaches that want to just bite your fingers off? 0.99
01:42:16.000 You let those things free? 0.99
01:42:18.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:42:18.000 You dummy. 0.99
01:42:19.000 They are members of the insect family, I guess. 0.99
01:42:21.000 Yeah, they are.
01:42:22.000 That's why if you eat cricket flour, like that was a thing in protein bars, sometimes if you have an allergy to shellfish, you can break out into hives.
01:42:32.000 That's so true, and I can validate that by fear factor.
01:42:35.000 Fear factor, we gave people roaches, and one of the dudes that we gave roaches was allergic to shellfish.
01:42:39.000 Jesus Christ.
01:42:40.000 So when he ate the roaches, he got sick.
01:42:42.000 Didn't you eat a roach?
01:42:43.000 Yeah.
01:42:43.000 What was it like?
01:42:45.000 Very overrated.
01:42:46.000 It's not terrible tasting.
01:42:48.000 It's not a big deal.
01:42:50.000 Really?
01:42:50.000 It wasn't hard to do.
01:42:51.000 You ate the body, the guts?
01:42:53.000 I ate a giant one.
01:42:54.000 It was a Madagascar hissing cockroach. 1.00
01:42:56.000 It was huge. 0.99
01:42:57.000 Goddammit! 0.87
01:42:57.000 Yeah, it was like a... 0.87
01:42:58.000 Could you live on that?
01:42:59.000 I mean, can people...
01:43:00.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:43:01.000 100%.
01:43:01.000 Yeah, you could live on that the same way you could live on crabs.
01:43:03.000 And weren't you afraid it was going to bite you, or...?
01:43:05.000 No.
01:43:05.000 They don't bite.
01:43:06.000 I'm not scared of a bug. 1.00
01:43:07.000 Fuck, I'm terrified. 1.00
01:43:08.000 That's a bug with poison. 1.00
01:43:09.000 Didn't have poison.
01:43:10.000 I knew I was going to jack them quick. 1.00
01:43:11.000 Wasn't it dirty as shit? 1.00
01:43:13.000 Yeah, whatever. 1.00
01:43:14.000 So is like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
01:43:15.000 You drop on the ground.
01:43:16.000 If you're hungry, you pick it up and you eat it. 1.00
01:43:17.000 And you just ate a goddamn cockroach. 0.99
01:43:19.000 It's not that bad, dude. 1.00
01:43:20.000 People have been eating them forever.
01:43:21.000 We were insectivores probably before we ever figured out how to kill animals. 1.00
01:43:25.000 Look at those fuckers. 1.00
01:43:26.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:43:26.000 Oh, look at this. 1.00
01:43:28.000 No big deal, dude.
01:43:29.000 It's no big deal.
01:43:30.000 Look at young Joe Rogan.
01:43:32.000 I wasn't even that young.
01:43:33.000 Look at that full head of hair. 0.63
01:43:34.000 That's fairly young Joe Rogan.
01:43:36.000 Come on, dude.
01:43:36.000 Look at these poor girls.
01:43:39.000 Dude, dude, you just did it!
01:43:41.000 It's not that big a deal.
01:43:42.000 And you're not really that guy!
01:43:43.000 Don't even show this and let's not even move on with this.
01:43:46.000 You're not really that...
01:43:47.000 Oh, ha!
01:43:48.000 I coughed a lot.
01:43:50.000 There was a lot of little parts and stuff that were going down the back of my throat. 1.00
01:43:53.000 Little legs and shit. 0.99
01:43:56.000 You know, because you're chewing up this hard, hard skeleton and trying to swallow that, too. 1.00
01:44:01.000 That made me gag a couple of times.
01:44:03.000 But as far as taste, it's really nothing.
01:44:06.000 It's almost like void of taste.
01:44:08.000 I remember when Ranella gave me the back of the deer's eyeball.
01:44:12.000 Oh yeah, that's right.
01:44:13.000 And it was fat.
01:44:13.000 And he said, chew that.
01:44:14.000 It's just like chewing gum.
01:44:15.000 And I was like...
01:44:16.000 No, he said it tastes like dough.
01:44:19.000 Yeah, like dough.
01:44:20.000 Yeah, like bread dough.
01:44:21.000 It did, sort of.
01:44:22.000 It looked like bread dough.
01:44:23.000 Interesting, like it's fat behind the eyes.
01:44:26.000 Yeah.
01:44:27.000 Well, I appreciate the fact that he eats that, too.
01:44:29.000 He eats everything.
01:44:30.000 Hell yeah.
01:44:30.000 That guy has more respect for a downed animal than any hunter I've ever seen.
01:44:37.000 Yeah, but he downed it, dude.
01:44:38.000 He did down it.
01:44:40.000 I miss going hunting.
01:44:41.000 Here's the other thing.
01:44:42.000 Everybody can't do that.
01:44:44.000 That's a really important point to bring up whenever we're all so...
01:44:48.000 Pro hunting and talk about how great it is to eat animals that you've harvested yourself.
01:44:53.000 You know exactly where they came from.
01:44:55.000 You knew they're wild.
01:44:56.000 You know, they've never been abused.
01:44:57.000 They've never been, you know, raised in slavery and fed antibiotics and hormones.
01:45:02.000 They lived wild until you shot them.
01:45:03.000 Yeah, but...
01:45:04.000 Everybody can't do that.
01:45:06.000 There's a problem with that, too.
01:45:07.000 Of course. 0.98
01:45:08.000 Even admitting that, even saying that, for me personally, it's the better option, I enjoy that option, I think it's the best option, it's still everybody can't do it, so we're fucked no matter what. 0.62
01:45:19.000 But we've come a long way with just feeding people half the world was starving in the 70s.
01:45:22.000 Of course, but we just went back to what we're saying.
01:45:24.000 You know, factory farming, that's how they did it. 0.98
01:45:26.000 I mean, they figured out how to do it with large-scale agriculture, indiscriminate combines that chew up the amount of animals that die when they chew up the fucking grain and corn and all the different things. 1.00
01:45:38.000 It's a fucking horror show. 0.99
01:45:40.000 My friend John Dudley, who lives in Iowa, he has a farm. 1.00
01:45:44.000 And he says when they run those combines, when they pick up whatever grains or whatever they have, they run these big giant-ass machines.
01:45:52.000 And he says you'll see the buzzards just circling in the sky.
01:45:56.000 Like they literally know that things are just...
01:45:58.000 Oh, you mean like rats and rabbits and stuff?
01:46:01.000 Rats and rabbits and deer fawns and ground-nesting birds. 1.00
01:46:04.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00
01:46:05.000 I never thought of that. 1.00
01:46:06.000 All those animals don't realize that what they're living in is temporary.
01:46:11.000 They look at it as, oh, this is an awesome shelter.
01:46:13.000 I'm going to go in here.
01:46:14.000 It's thick with all these branches.
01:46:15.000 No predators are going to find me.
01:46:17.000 I'll just go here and I'll nest. 1.00
01:46:18.000 Holy shit. 0.99
01:46:19.000 So now the grain... 0.99
01:46:20.000 I've never heard this.
01:46:22.000 Grain combines.
01:46:23.000 Have you ever seen a grain combine?
01:46:24.000 No.
01:46:24.000 Jamie, pull that up.
01:46:25.000 You'll get an understanding of what kind of volume you're talking about.
01:46:29.000 So in your bread, you're saying, or the grain, you have a lot of animal...
01:46:33.000 Mm-hmm.
01:46:34.000 Yeah.
01:46:34.000 Wow, that's good protein.
01:46:36.000 It's not just that.
01:46:37.000 Well, I don't know how good it is for you and how much of it gets baked off.
01:46:40.000 But the problem is, it's not animal death-free.
01:46:44.000 It's just not.
01:46:45.000 Right.
01:46:45.000 We were showing something.
01:46:46.000 Brian put up this video the other day of a grain silo in Russia.
01:46:51.000 And now these pigeons...
01:46:52.000 Fall into the grain silo and try to eat the grain and then get sucked into the gears as the silo or the machine is churning up the grain.
01:47:02.000 So they land on the grain, try to get some of it, and then they get sucked into the gears over and over and over and over again.
01:47:07.000 We're watching like 10, 15 of them in the course of a couple of minutes.
01:47:10.000 It gets sucked into this machine that chews up the pigeons.
01:47:14.000 So does the machine taking the grain and making it finer?
01:47:18.000 Is that what it's doing?
01:47:21.000 Yeah, but let's see a large view so we can get an understanding of the mass.
01:47:27.000 See, that's a small one.
01:47:29.000 Look at large-scale grain combine and see if you can find a video of it. 0.97
01:47:33.000 But they have these, you know, they're like fucking hundreds of feet long. 0.98
01:47:36.000 And they're just chewing up giant chunks of these crops. 0.97
01:47:39.000 And when they're doing these large-scale agriculture, like that one right there, perfect example.
01:47:43.000 But isn't that just clear-cutting that's not actually using any of that stuff?
01:47:46.000 No, it's using it. 0.99
01:47:47.000 That's how they chew that shit up, dude. 1.00
01:47:49.000 Yeah, but that's not... 1.00
01:47:50.000 That's actually...
01:47:52.000 Isn't that a cornfield?
01:47:53.000 They pick the corn.
01:47:54.000 That's actually...
01:47:55.000 I believe that's a truck going through it and taking out all those so they can replant, I think.
01:48:01.000 It is possible that's what that is.
01:48:03.000 Yeah.
01:48:03.000 But there's a bunch of different kinds of machines they use for that same kind of purpose, meaning for whether it's they're just going to replant them or whether it's they're harvesting them.
01:48:12.000 Right.
01:48:12.000 There's got machines running over that ground all the time.
01:48:16.000 Like, see if you could find the big combines.
01:48:18.000 They spread out like a T. It's like, so there's a truck, and then to the right and the left, they spread out on either side with these just...
01:48:26.000 There's gears that chop down the plants and then get them ready for harvest.
01:48:31.000 And they also do it when they're making hay. 0.95
01:48:33.000 You know, they do that.
01:48:35.000 They have these machines that they drive through and chop everything down and they roll it up for hay.
01:48:39.000 Like, here it is.
01:48:40.000 So that's a combine. 0.98
01:48:41.000 And that thing, as that guy pulls it, that thing is chewing up every fucking thing that's down there. 0.98
01:48:48.000 Everything. 0.98
01:48:49.000 And animals, especially fawns, it's one of the weird things about deer fawns, when they're really young, they just stay put.
01:48:56.000 So if they hear things, you could literally walk up to a baby deer fawn, and if the mom's not around, you could touch it.
01:49:03.000 Because their instincts, until they get old enough to run away from stuff, their instincts are to stay put, just to ensure survival.
01:49:10.000 So a lot of them get chewed up in this.
01:49:13.000 And there was some estimation that I read when they were talking about the problems with this, Ways they were trying to figure out how to mitigate wildlife loss from use of indiscriminate combines like this.
01:49:24.000 And they were talking about each pound of grain, how many animals has to die.
01:49:29.000 I don't remember what the number was.
01:49:30.000 Oh, this is the video of the pigeons that get shoved into this...
01:49:35.000 Oh no, no, you guys!
01:49:36.000 Oh dude, it goes on forever.
01:49:38.000 You guys?
01:49:39.000 Yeah, whoops.
01:49:39.000 Oh no, dude!
01:49:41.000 And they keep doing it.
01:49:43.000 They're not smart enough to figure out what's going on.
01:49:45.000 Look at that one. 1.00
01:49:45.000 Whoops, oh shit, fuck that. 1.00
01:49:46.000 Dude, this is insane! 1.00
01:49:48.000 They're just going away!
01:49:50.000 That's it, fly, you made it, you made it, dude, fly.
01:49:52.000 How about that one on the edge? 0.99
01:49:53.000 He's just watching his buddies go down, he doesn't say a goddamn thing. 0.98
01:49:56.000 One of them jumped right in the middle and was like, hey, look at this. 0.99
01:49:59.000 It's amazing.
01:49:59.000 And it just keeps happening.
01:50:01.000 Sir, sir, there you go.
01:50:02.000 Guys, who's going to get smart now?
01:50:04.000 This one's not. 1.00
01:50:05.000 That's a wrap, bitch. 1.00
01:50:06.000 This one's gone, too. 0.99
01:50:07.000 See ya.
01:50:07.000 Dude!
01:50:08.000 Oh, last minute.
01:50:10.000 Last minute survival.
01:50:11.000 You could make bets.
01:50:11.000 You could make a lot of money.
01:50:12.000 This is a gambler's dream.
01:50:14.000 I got the one.
01:50:15.000 It is, right?
01:50:16.000 Is this one going to go down or not?
01:50:17.000 You'd have to have stacks of money on the ready.
01:50:19.000 A hundred bucks.
01:50:19.000 A hundred bucks.
01:50:20.000 What's the name of this video, Jamie?
01:50:21.000 That one's done.
01:50:21.000 Oh, dude, you went face first.
01:50:23.000 Exploding...
01:50:23.000 Oh, that's not it.
01:50:24.000 What was the, um...
01:50:26.000 Pigeons are being sucked in with the grain on a bread-making plant in Russia.
01:50:31.000 I searched for Russian pigeons and bread and it comes up.
01:50:34.000 Okay.
01:50:34.000 That's unbelievable.
01:50:35.000 Man.
01:50:36.000 Good old you two.
01:50:37.000 That's so weird.
01:50:38.000 So the point is, to make gigantic groups of people happy and fed, even just with vegetables, you need a lot of that stuff going on.
01:50:46.000 So it's not nice to anybody.
01:50:48.000 It's not nice.
01:50:49.000 I mean, this is, again, this is not defending factory farming, which is obviously disgusting and horrible and it's, uh...
01:50:55.000 It's one of the darker aspects of human civilization, the fact that's standard in the United States. 1.00
01:51:02.000 That shit is really, really, really common. 1.00
01:51:04.000 And that's how we can afford meat so cheap. 1.00
01:51:07.000 But even vegetables, even vegetables, it's not like growing your own shit. 1.00
01:51:12.000 Ideally, what we're supposed to do is we're all supposed to grow our own shit. 0.99
01:51:16.000 We're all supposed to have a piece of land, and you're supposed to have vegetables on it, and you're supposed to have a few animals that you raise, whether it's for milk, Or for cheese or for meat or for whatever. 0.99
01:51:26.000 That would be the way you could do it.
01:51:29.000 Yeah, it's just not scalable.
01:51:30.000 It's just not scalable.
01:51:30.000 And people would starve.
01:51:31.000 Well, it's not scalable in terms of the way we've decided to jam everybody into these cities.
01:51:35.000 It's just not.
01:51:36.000 Well, again, I think that was just what would happen anyway.
01:51:40.000 By default, people organize.
01:51:42.000 You feel safer in cities.
01:51:43.000 You get more access to food and shelter.
01:51:47.000 Of course, of course. 0.92
01:51:47.000 But if you stop and think about the requirements, like the food requirements of all these people, it's so easy for someone, you and me included, to say, I don't have time to fucking gather and hunt. 0.92
01:52:01.000 Someone go get my food. 1.00
01:52:02.000 I gotta do comedy.
01:52:04.000 I got a set I gotta do at the improv.
01:52:05.000 I'm gonna go to the store and buy a sandwich.
01:52:08.000 You want that access.
01:52:10.000 And it seems like the only way you can get that kind of access to supermarkets and to fast food restaurants, the only way is this system that we've got now.
01:52:19.000 Like where you've just got massive amounts of animals that are getting slaughtered.
01:52:23.000 It allows for I think it was the...
01:52:42.000 Historian William McNeil said, well, they were able to export timber, olive oil, and wine, and so they made money, their economy, you could actually have some leisure time.
01:52:51.000 You could buy leisure time, because they would trade for those goods that were wanted everywhere.
01:52:57.000 So what happened was, you had, you know, there were people that made a lot of money and they could sit around and think because somebody was there to feed them.
01:53:05.000 And they didn't have to worry about things.
01:53:06.000 The climate was temperate.
01:53:08.000 So you didn't have to really worry about the winter as much.
01:53:11.000 I mean, it gets cold, but not that cold.
01:53:12.000 That's so fascinating because that mirrors what John Anthony West said about Egypt.
01:53:16.000 He was talking about the early days of ancient Egypt and the Nile River being such a fertile area and the food just blew up out of nowhere.
01:53:24.000 It was easy to grow things.
01:53:28.000 Also edible grasses that grew anyway.
01:53:30.000 There was barley and there was, I think, millet.
01:53:34.000 That's a huge factor.
01:53:36.000 You could cultivate the natural grasses that just grew anyway were, I think, also wheat.
01:53:42.000 Those were there, so you didn't have to import them from other places.
01:53:48.000 Yeah, so it's like we need these kind of situations, like these city-type situations where we have massive amounts of resources, but we're doing it on a scale that no one else has ever done it before.
01:53:58.000 We're doing it on this really bizarre scale, and we have to recognize that this is all incredibly recent in terms of human history, to jam millions and millions of people in cities.
01:54:08.000 I mean, there had been a few cities in China that had done it.
01:54:11.000 There's a few places around the world that had done it, but they were essentially primitive You're talking about what they've done in terms of developing a city where it had a million people in the year 1200 versus what has to be done in the year 2016. First of all,
01:54:29.000 you have electricity.
01:54:30.000 You have power everywhere.
01:54:32.000 You have sewage lines running everywhere. 1.00
01:54:35.000 You've got all these people shitting and pissing into tubes and then pumping water through this fucking pipe that... 1.00
01:54:43.000 We're good to go. 1.00
01:55:04.000 Bringing in their food and bringing out their shit. 0.99
01:55:06.000 You know what else that does for agricultural communities? 1.00
01:55:08.000 The benefit for...
01:55:10.000 Because when agricultural communities would go to war with nomadic tribes, or with the exception of the Mongols, but with nomadic tribes and Native Americans, for example, is that when you come from a tradition of agriculture and cities like that, where you have contact with animals,
01:55:26.000 nasty diseases.
01:55:28.000 Nasty diseases.
01:55:30.000 And then you build an immunity to it, but guess who doesn't?
01:55:34.000 The people you come into contact with.
01:55:36.000 So many of the people, like the Native Americans, they were killed by bullets, but they were mainly killed by things like influenza and the European diseases that they had zero contact with.
01:55:46.000 Well, that's interesting because Dan Flores wrote a paper, I think it was called Bison Diplomacy, Bison Ecology.
01:55:55.000 I'm reading his book right now about coyotes and he wrote this book about the buffalo and he said that the mass numbers that people had seen of the buffalo...
01:56:11.000 Sure.
01:56:15.000 Sure.
01:56:15.000 Sure.
01:56:24.000 Yes, and French too, right?
01:56:25.000 I think it was mostly Spanish people.
01:56:26.000 Yeah.
01:56:27.000 But anyway, Europeans. 1.00
01:56:28.000 They came over and they brought a bunch of dirty, dirty, dirty pugs and their pigs. 1.00
01:56:33.000 And also horses, of course. 0.97
01:56:35.000 But he said that the Native Americans with the firearm and with horses were already on their way to extirpating the buffalo from a lot of its range before they got hit with these crazy diseases.
01:56:49.000 Hmm.
01:56:49.000 So that when you saw these millions of buffalo, it was in a direct response to a lack of a predator.
01:56:55.000 Wow.
01:56:55.000 A lack of a competent predator, one that they used to have in the Native Americans that would follow them around.
01:57:01.000 The Native Americans that were introduced to firearms, I believe he was talking about firearms, and maybe even spears and bows and arrows as well.
01:57:08.000 But the horseback was the big issue.
01:57:09.000 Because being on horseback, you could just get right to the buffalo.
01:57:12.000 You could just follow the buffalo. 1.00
01:57:13.000 But they didn't even know what the fuck you were. 0.99
01:57:15.000 They let you get right up on them. 0.99
01:57:17.000 They never got jacked by horses before.
01:57:19.000 They got jacked by wolves, and they got jacked by mountain lions, and they never got jacked by a horse. 0.99
01:57:24.000 Like, what is this horse with a dude on it with a fucking spear on my side? 0.99
01:57:28.000 Dude! 1.00
01:57:30.000 They would just run up on them and kill a ton of them, and then they would all feast, and they would follow the buffalo herd around and just keep jacking them.
01:57:39.000 Most likely, this guy Dan Flores is saying, they were on their way to diminishing the populations greatly.
01:57:48.000 And he points to the early European travelers who came through.
01:57:52.000 They didn't talk about the buffalo.
01:57:54.000 There's no mention of the buffalo.
01:57:56.000 They talked about all these other animals.
01:57:58.000 They talked about elk.
01:57:59.000 They talked about deer.
01:58:00.000 They talked about bear.
01:58:01.000 They talked about antelope.
01:58:02.000 They talked about all these plains animals that they discovered and encountered.
01:58:06.000 They didn't talk about buffalo.
01:58:08.000 From how far back?
01:58:09.000 Way far back, when they first started coming.
01:58:12.000 1491 and stuff.
01:58:13.000 Yeah, so the early settlers' accounts did not include these massive populations of buffalo.
01:58:18.000 So when they had gotten to these crazy numbers, like when they started killing them for...
01:58:23.000 There's a bunch of different reasons why they killed them.
01:58:26.000 And one of the reasons why they killed them was their fur...
01:58:29.000 Another one was their tongues. 0.99
01:58:31.000 They would kill gigantic herds, like just thousands of buffalo, and they'd just take their tongues and leave their bodies to rot.
01:58:36.000 They used their tongues like they ate them. 0.98
01:58:38.000 They were a delicacy?
01:58:39.000 Yeah, I guess it was valuable at the time.
01:58:42.000 And they also used it for the meat market.
01:58:47.000 So they would kill them, and they would take them, and they would sell them to market.
01:58:50.000 So they were market hunters, and they would just indiscriminately wipe out just giant numbers of them.
01:58:55.000 So without a doubt, the Native Americans were on their way, but we showed them how to do it. 1.00
01:59:00.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:59:00.000 There are always stories about sort of cowboys with their shoulders that were black and blue because they were shooting buffalo all day long.
01:59:08.000 Yeah, literally.
01:59:08.000 And then they would take the tarps and stretch them out, and it'd cover like a square mile.
01:59:13.000 I mean, some crazy, not that, but like football fields of just...
01:59:17.000 We're good to go.
01:59:46.000 And then we can take those furs and send them back east as well.
01:59:49.000 Well, I never heard that.
01:59:50.000 What animals were they doing that to?
01:59:51.000 So all the foxes would come in, all the coyotes, all the wolves, and then all the birds.
01:59:57.000 And so they would take the feathers and send them to Europe for hats.
02:00:00.000 And they would take the coyote skins and they'd take the wolf skin and they'd take everything else. 0.92
02:00:05.000 Where did you read this that they were lacing buffalo meat with strychnine?
02:00:07.000 Well, there's a great book called...
02:00:09.000 They did that with wild horses.
02:00:10.000 Well, they did that with Buffalo.
02:00:11.000 There was a great book called Of Wolves and Men, I believe.
02:00:14.000 I read it a long time ago.
02:00:15.000 And as they laid the railroad down, they were shooting it from trains.
02:00:19.000 But as they did that, that was really what...
02:00:22.000 Because the plains, the Great Plains, looked very much like the Kalahari, apparently.
02:00:29.000 Like, you know, the African... 1.00
02:00:32.000 Wilderness.
02:00:32.000 That's funny that you brought that up because that's another book that Flores is working on.
02:00:36.000 He's working on the American Serengeti. 0.99
02:00:38.000 Where do you think Flores gets his fucking information from? 1.00
02:00:41.000 From you? 1.00
02:00:41.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:00:42.000 He's a professor.
02:00:42.000 You're amazing.
02:00:43.000 Yeah.
02:00:44.000 He taught at a major university.
02:00:46.000 I work from my gut.
02:00:47.000 I work from my gut, bro.
02:00:48.000 I work from my gut.
02:00:49.000 He talked about that's the reason why the antelope run so fast.
02:00:52.000 He's like, the antelope run so fast because they were being chased by these big cats.
02:00:56.000 Like, we used to have a cat.
02:00:57.000 We used to have a lion that lived in North America that's bigger than an African lion.
02:01:00.000 What?
02:01:01.000 Yeah.
02:01:02.000 Oh, actually, I think I've seen that with a short tail.
02:01:04.000 I don't know what kind of tail it had.
02:01:05.000 We had a thing called a short-faced bear that was apparently the most dangerous bear that's, like, ever lived.
02:01:12.000 Giant, big bear.
02:01:12.000 Go ahead and bring that up, Jamie.
02:01:14.000 Bigger than a polar bear.
02:01:15.000 What?
02:01:15.000 Huge.
02:01:15.000 Formidable predator that they think was one of the reasons why it took so long for people to migrate into North America.
02:01:22.000 It might have been that the Bering Strait was the realm of the short-faced bear.
02:01:27.000 I want no part of a short-faced bear.
02:01:28.000 You've never seen this thing?
02:01:29.000 I sure haven't.
02:01:30.000 You need to see this and whatever the American lion was.
02:01:33.000 There was also a thing called a terror bird.
02:01:35.000 There was this giant seven-foot tall bird, a flightless bird with a giant hatchet for a face.
02:01:41.000 What? 0.60
02:01:41.000 That would just fuck things up. 0.60
02:01:42.000 That is the relative size.
02:01:45.000 That's obviously a replica.
02:01:46.000 Man, that's horrifying.
02:01:47.000 But that's the size of a short-faced bear.
02:01:49.000 Apparently it was just an enormous, enormous bear. 1.00
02:01:51.000 And look at that other fucking thing. 0.99
02:01:53.000 What is that? 1.00
02:01:54.000 That's a deus, deodon, deodon. 0.85
02:01:57.000 Some other horrible looking monster with teeth.
02:02:00.000 It looks like a deer with wolf teeth. 0.88
02:02:02.000 Well, it looks like a hedgehog.
02:02:03.000 Yeah, or like a buffalo with wolf teeth. 1.00
02:02:05.000 Giant fucking pig. 1.00
02:02:08.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:02:08.000 Goddamn, man. 1.00
02:02:09.000 There were some crazy fucking animals. 1.00
02:02:11.000 I want no part of that. 0.99
02:02:12.000 What's really interesting is that the mass of them went extinct somewhere around the end of the Ice Age.
02:02:19.000 Why?
02:02:20.000 Probably for the same reason why the Ice Age ended. 1.00
02:02:23.000 Probably a lot of shit going on. 0.99
02:02:24.000 A lot of factors. 1.00
02:02:25.000 That's how big it is?
02:02:26.000 Oh my god.
02:02:28.000 That's impressive. 1.00
02:02:29.000 Look at the size of that fucking thing. 1.00
02:02:30.000 Or is that just a Kodiak bear? 1.00
02:02:32.000 That could easily be a Kodiak bear.
02:02:33.000 Sure could. 0.99
02:02:34.000 They're 11 feet high or some shit. 0.99
02:02:36.000 Yeah, the big ones are. 0.98
02:02:38.000 Are you kidding me?
02:02:39.000 Yeah, there's a great video. 0.99
02:02:40.000 You want to shit your pants? 0.98
02:02:42.000 There's a great video from a guard booth in Alaska, where these guys are inside one of those park ranger guard booths, and they're watching this bear walkthrough that's the size of a bus. 1.00
02:02:53.000 It is a fucking tank. 0.99
02:02:55.000 It looks like a VW, like a VW bus. 1.00
02:02:57.000 And they're in there and go, oh my god, look at them, look at them, look at them, look at them!
02:03:01.000 And the thing just strolls right past the guard booth.
02:03:04.000 Wow.
02:03:04.000 And you get a sense, because they're inside this building, but the building is only 10 feet from this animal.
02:03:09.000 So you get a really clear sense of proportion of how big it is, and you're like, oh my god! 0.98
02:03:15.000 It's so fucking crazy. 0.68
02:03:15.000 It's like 11 feet long, and it probably weighs, you know, who knows how much. 0.68
02:03:19.000 How much do they weigh?
02:03:20.000 1,500 pounds?
02:03:21.000 Yeah, you never, you feel...
02:03:23.000 It's such a good way to feel like food and shoes.
02:03:25.000 You're so diminutive. 0.95
02:03:26.000 That's why going to zoos makes me always feel a little shitty about myself. 0.91
02:03:31.000 I'm the weakest link in the chain. 1.00
02:03:34.000 I'm just a bald, pink piece of fucking food. 1.00
02:03:38.000 I suck compared to all animals. 1.00
02:03:40.000 But you have guns and cars and shit. 1.00
02:03:42.000 And a brain and a dick. 1.00
02:03:44.000 But when you see this thing, you got it? 1.00
02:03:46.000 No?
02:03:47.000 Giant bear walks past guard booth in Alaska.
02:03:51.000 I'll find it.
02:03:52.000 I believe you want to be eaten by a big cat before you're eaten by a bear because bears just start eating you when you're alive.
02:03:58.000 Big cats get the back of your neck and end it quick. 1.00
02:04:01.000 Yeah, they get your face.
02:04:02.000 They don't want to fight. 0.99
02:04:02.000 They want you to die so they could eat you. 0.99
02:04:05.000 Bears are so invulnerable. 0.99
02:04:06.000 They don't feel the need to kill you first.
02:04:08.000 It's not necessary.
02:04:09.000 They just hold you down.
02:04:10.000 Here it is.
02:04:11.000 Watch this.
02:04:11.000 So these guys are in this guard booth and this thing starts lumbering towards them.
02:04:16.000 That's a grizzly, isn't it?
02:04:18.000 Look at the muscles.
02:04:19.000 It's so big.
02:04:20.000 What's the name of it, Jamie?
02:04:21.000 It says, must see huge brown bear walking past Brooks Lodge Ranger Station.
02:04:26.000 So as these guys are sitting there in their truck, like look how close it is when it walks by the road.
02:04:31.000 Dude!
02:04:32.000 These guys are standing there.
02:04:34.000 Watch out walks right by there.
02:04:35.000 I mean, that thing's 10 feet away.
02:04:37.000 Oh my gosh.
02:04:39.000 Oh my gosh.
02:04:40.000 Oh my gosh.
02:04:41.000 They're not even swearing.
02:04:42.000 They're so nice up there. 1.00
02:04:44.000 Hey, close that fucking door! 1.00
02:04:46.000 No, watch this. 1.00
02:04:46.000 Look at the lady walking down the road. 1.00
02:04:48.000 What?!
02:04:48.000 Yeah, see down there?
02:04:50.000 What?!
02:04:50.000 Is that a dude?
02:04:53.000 It might be a dude.
02:04:54.000 Did I say lady?
02:04:55.000 Might be a lady. 1.00
02:04:56.000 But either way, it just decides not to walk over and eat her.
02:04:59.000 Like, she's just out there.
02:05:01.000 If it went into a dead sprint...
02:05:03.000 That'll be a wrap.
02:05:04.000 Oh, it's catching her.
02:05:05.000 Oh, for sure.
02:05:06.000 You're never getting away from that thing.
02:05:07.000 It's so big.
02:05:08.000 She didn't even see that bear.
02:05:09.000 No.
02:05:09.000 I wonder if she would have heard it coming.
02:05:11.000 She would have heard her breathing, probably.
02:05:14.000 Yeah, I wonder what it would have done if it would have checked to see if she had a gun. 0.94
02:05:18.000 Oh no, I would have eaten her. 1.00
02:05:19.000 I mean, would it have just run up to her and eaten her? 0.79
02:05:22.000 Because the thing they say about grizzlies is it's way less likely that a grizzly bear is going to kill you for food.
02:05:28.000 And way more likely they're going to kill you because you stumble upon a mother with her cubs and she's protecting her.
02:05:33.000 Because grizzly bears don't necessarily look at people as food, but black bear apparently are more opportunistic predators.
02:05:39.000 And there's way more incidents of black bears attacking and killing people for food Than there is of grizzly bears doing it.
02:05:47.000 Grizzly bears definitely have done it, but it appears that black bears do it more for food, more for predation. 0.99
02:05:53.000 Ranella was telling us about a story about, oh shit, running up to a dog. 0.99
02:05:59.000 It's scared that a dog is, that's from American Werewolf in London. 0.99
02:06:02.000 That video ended right as it said it killed the people that were filming it.
02:06:06.000 Oh, really? 1.00
02:06:06.000 Yeah, because they were fucking with... 1.00
02:06:08.000 It says, Mom Bear attacks... 1.00
02:06:09.000 Oh, just switch.
02:06:10.000 Okay, I don't need to see that.
02:06:11.000 I don't need to see people die.
02:06:13.000 No.
02:06:14.000 It is, uh...
02:06:16.000 Anyway, bears.
02:06:16.000 Scary.
02:06:18.000 Not good.
02:06:18.000 Don't get eaten.
02:06:19.000 No, they terrify me.
02:06:20.000 Rinella was telling a story about a friend of his. 0.86
02:06:22.000 I'm going to fuck the story up, I'm sure.
02:06:24.000 But I think the gist of the story was they took this guy out for his first time hunting ever. 0.81
02:06:29.000 He got attacked by a 500-pound predatory black bear in his tent while he's sleeping.
02:06:34.000 The bear comes in the tent, mauls him.
02:06:36.000 Somebody wakes up, shoots the bear, hits him in the wrist, breaks his wrist, and then the bear gets out of that tent, runs into another tent, and they shoot it.
02:06:45.000 But a 500 pound predatory black bear.
02:06:48.000 So that's a bear that's...
02:06:50.000 How much do you weigh?
02:06:51.000 175?
02:06:52.000 I weigh 172. Shredded.
02:06:53.000 So I'm somewhere in the range of 200 pounds.
02:06:57.000 So you and I, and then a lot more.
02:07:00.000 Another 100 plus pounds.
02:07:02.000 Another 125 pounds. 1.00
02:07:03.000 And it's a fucking bear. 1.00
02:07:04.000 And you're by yourself and you're sleeping. 1.00
02:07:06.000 It's your first time ever hunting.
02:07:08.000 And this thing comes through the door. 0.99
02:07:10.000 Just all hot fucking funk breath. 1.00
02:07:13.000 Never taking a bath in its life. 1.00
02:07:15.000 And just looking to rip you apart.
02:07:17.000 All fast twitch muscle. 0.90
02:07:18.000 Yeah.
02:07:19.000 And dense bones. 0.99
02:07:20.000 And then your friend shoots you in the wrist.
02:07:22.000 Your friend shoots at it, and I don't know if it got a pass-through on the bear's body and then hit him, because that sometimes happens.
02:07:29.000 But either way, you get shot in the wrist, bear mauls you. 0.98
02:07:32.000 They were talking about how the Inuit used to kill seals, and they would use polar bear bone.
02:07:38.000 Now, how do you kill a polar bear?
02:07:41.000 Do you know how?
02:07:42.000 I know how they killed wolves.
02:07:44.000 You know how they used to kill wolves?
02:07:45.000 Yes.
02:07:46.000 Where they used to take a blade and put blood on it?
02:07:47.000 Yes.
02:07:48.000 And it would just keep licking and bleed to death.
02:07:49.000 Yeah.
02:07:50.000 But I believe with polar bears, they would kill them when they were sleeping.
02:07:55.000 What? 0.99
02:07:55.000 They would find out where they were sleeping, and they would come in there and stab the shit out of them while they were sleeping. 0.99
02:08:01.000 And then they would take that bone because it was extra hard, and they would put it at the end of their spear, and that's how they would kill seals. 0.93
02:08:08.000 Did you ever wonder how Inuits who lived in that icy region got water?
02:08:12.000 Because remember what the water is.
02:08:13.000 It's all salt water, right?
02:08:15.000 Right.
02:08:15.000 The ice is all salt water.
02:08:16.000 So how do you get water? 0.97
02:08:18.000 How the fuck do you get water? 1.00
02:08:19.000 Suck a polar bear's dick. 1.00
02:08:21.000 Very good. 1.00
02:08:21.000 And yes, most of the time. 1.00
02:08:24.000 You're not very scientific.
02:08:26.000 Oh, do I am?
02:08:27.000 Okay.
02:08:27.000 But you have to...
02:08:28.000 Apparently, they would be able to see what the old ice, the old, old ice, like by the color of it.
02:08:34.000 The older the ice, I guess the less salt.
02:08:38.000 So you would find really old ice and that was the ice that you would melt down as water. 1.00
02:08:42.000 What the fuck? 0.99
02:08:43.000 Yeah, so the Arctic explorers who didn't hook up with the Inuit always died. 1.00
02:08:49.000 From drinking salt water.
02:08:50.000 They just froze to death.
02:08:51.000 They couldn't find food. 0.98
02:08:53.000 It sucked. 0.98
02:08:54.000 And the ones that immediately made friends with the Inuit, they came back nice and fat. 1.00
02:09:00.000 They had plenty of seal meat, and they would always have to get rid of all their clothing and wear exactly what the Inuit would wear. 1.00
02:09:07.000 What kind of a fucking crazy person decides to go to the Antarctic? 0.99
02:09:12.000 The British, who wanted to find different routes for trade. 1.00
02:09:16.000 I know, but just think about what kind of a crazy person are you, if you're like, that's what I want to do. 0.91
02:09:19.000 I'm going to be the first guy to go to Antarctica. 0.99
02:09:21.000 Badasses.
02:09:22.000 I'm just going to walk across that frozen, looks like...
02:09:26.000 Nothing.
02:09:27.000 Nothingness.
02:09:28.000 That story about...
02:09:29.000 I can't remember his name.
02:09:30.000 It wasn't Shackleton.
02:09:30.000 It was another guy who was an explorer.
02:09:32.000 And his men were all starving and dying.
02:09:34.000 And he knew he was going to die.
02:09:35.000 But he was a British aristocrat.
02:09:37.000 And when you were an aristocrat in Britain, you had a duty.
02:09:40.000 You had a duty to essentially use your free time to make the world a better place.
02:09:45.000 And so he is famously stiff upper lip, grew up on a life of discipline, never showing ever your emotions, probably carted away to boarding school at six years old, as they always were.
02:09:57.000 Well, definitely did some buggery.
02:09:58.000 Yeah.
02:09:59.000 They used to do that, right?
02:10:00.000 That was real common.
02:10:01.000 Still is.
02:10:02.000 The upper classes send their kids away to school at seven.
02:10:05.000 The older classmates are like, hey. 0.98
02:10:06.000 A lot of gay stuff. 0.98
02:10:07.000 There's a lot of problems. 0.97
02:10:08.000 But he said famously...
02:10:11.000 As he knew he was going to die, his foot apparently was very gangrene, and he looked at his men and he said, I'm going for a walk, and there may be some time.
02:10:20.000 And he just, rather than inconvenience him with his death, because that would be very un-British, he walked off.
02:10:28.000 And froze to death?
02:10:29.000 Yeah.
02:10:30.000 That's a badass.
02:10:31.000 Because keeping up, and if you read some of the letters as they were dying and starving to death, their letters are incredibly formal, and still poised, and always taking into account that they had to keep up appearances, and that they had to...
02:10:46.000 Always remind themselves that they were there for a bigger cause and that their personal discomfort was just not something you inconvenience anybody with.
02:10:53.000 Well, that was the highest level of civilization they were capable of expressing before emojis. 0.97
02:10:59.000 See, now you could send someone like a text message and say, I don't think this DIS shit is gonna work out. 0.99
02:11:07.000 Peace out. 0.99
02:11:09.000 Peace out, fam.
02:11:10.000 And then you'd have like emoji with a peace sign and then like you and then a gun.
02:11:15.000 Dude, if you want to see the antithesis to the emoji in the American culture as it is now, YouTube, a debate between James Baldwin, the great African American author, and William F. Buckley at Cambridge University in 1965. Everybody who's listening,
02:11:32.000 please do that.
02:11:33.000 What does that have to do with emojis?
02:11:35.000 Well, just because that was debate and language and formality in high relief.
02:11:40.000 And Cambridge, of course, they were all there talking about the question was, is the American dream at the expense of the American Negro or is it not?
02:11:50.000 And that is the debate.
02:11:51.000 And Mr. Buckley would, of course, choose that it is not.
02:11:54.000 And Mr. Baldwin would choose that it is.
02:11:56.000 And James Baldwin gets in a rousing speech.
02:11:58.000 1965, I brought the cotton to market and I picked the cotton for nothing.
02:12:05.000 For nothing.
02:12:06.000 For I will always be.
02:12:09.000 And then William Buckley gets up. 1.00
02:12:11.000 But the formality, the theatricality, and the fucking language. 0.98
02:12:15.000 The way English was spoken by the upper classes or the educated back in the day. 0.99
02:12:19.000 This is so great.
02:12:20.000 He's 12 years old.
02:12:21.000 No, no, that's not Buckley.
02:12:22.000 That's the beginning of the debate.
02:12:23.000 On a cold cement floor.
02:12:25.000 Is this for a university?
02:12:28.000 Fast forward to James Baldwin talking.
02:12:31.000 It's actually quite amazing.
02:12:32.000 Well, we can't really play it anyway.
02:12:34.000 We'll get yanked off of YouTube.
02:12:36.000 It's somebody else's content.
02:12:37.000 Somebody else owns this.
02:12:39.000 It's really important to watch, though, I think.
02:12:41.000 Well, that was my point, though.
02:12:43.000 Do you think that the reason why that formality was so appreciated and accepted and it was so highly regarded was because that was the highest level of civilization that they had before technology?
02:12:55.000 Before technology and before...
02:12:57.000 I mean, there was a limited amount that you can influence the environment back then, and you could more influence yourself.
02:13:02.000 You could more educate yourself.
02:13:04.000 If you wanted to go somewhere, you had to get on a boat.
02:13:07.000 You had to get on a boat like everybody else.
02:13:08.000 You had to get on a train.
02:13:09.000 If you wanted to get across the country, you had to get on a train.
02:13:11.000 If you wanted to write something, you had to use a quill, and you had to have a little thing of ink, and you had to dip it in there, and that's how you wrote.
02:13:17.000 Period.
02:13:18.000 And it was a limited amount that you could do.
02:13:22.000 You couldn't just go home and sit and watch television.
02:13:25.000 You couldn't code a video game.
02:13:27.000 You couldn't get on Skype.
02:13:28.000 There was less distraction?
02:13:29.000 There was less distraction and the level of ability that you could, where you could express civilization at its highest level.
02:13:38.000 It was basically like code, a few machines that people had built, a few combustion machines, the trains, things along those lines, and then the rest of it was just like houses and rules.
02:13:50.000 I don't know if that's accurate.
02:13:53.000 I think it might also be that...
02:13:55.000 I think that's part of it, and I think that's a valid kind of description of maybe part of what was going on, but I think something else was going on with those debates.
02:14:03.000 I think that when you...
02:14:05.000 The reason something like Firing Line...
02:14:06.000 Watch Firing Line with William F. Buckley, a popular show.
02:14:09.000 It's molasses.
02:14:10.000 You're listening to men speak about long ideas. 0.60
02:14:15.000 It's actually one of the things I really appreciate about your show, because you're having such smart people and having real discussions. 0.99
02:14:19.000 Then how the fuck did you get on here? 0.98
02:14:20.000 I have no idea, brother. 1.00
02:14:22.000 Oh, shit! 1.00
02:14:22.000 Burn! 1.00
02:14:23.000 Burn! 0.88
02:14:24.000 Burn! 0.88
02:14:25.000 But I think the car...
02:14:27.000 He got me! 0.99
02:14:28.000 He fucking got me again! 1.00
02:14:29.000 Oh, shit! 1.00
02:14:30.000 Motherfucker! 1.00
02:14:31.000 Burn! 1.00
02:14:32.000 But back then, like...
02:14:34.000 It feels like political commitment and winning these arguments between right and left, as they were known, had actual ramifications because it feels like politics and whatever happens in an election today means less to people and has less of an effect,
02:14:53.000 at least an immediate effect, Because back in those days, 65, the wars that were going on with ideology and wars, I mean, fascism and communism and capitalism, people were actually dying and having real wars.
02:15:08.000 There were national wars that were set to defend not only resources, but those ideologies, an entire movement.
02:15:14.000 And I think that there was this sense that if this side wins...
02:15:19.000 Then that side over there is going to come over and take us over.
02:15:22.000 There was this real ideology between this.
02:15:24.000 And so I think that those debates people took very personally because they probably knew somebody who died defending the world against fascism.
02:15:33.000 They were afraid of the Red Scare or they were committed communists and they were being persecuted for it because they couldn't get a job in Hollywood.
02:15:41.000 I mean, there's a real culture war that had Actual tangible ramifications that you could see every day.
02:15:47.000 My god, the Vietnam War!
02:15:49.000 Americans were dying every day because they were sent out there to make the world safe for democracy, right?
02:15:54.000 I think that was a factor too.
02:15:56.000 I don't think that was not a factor.
02:15:57.000 I think there certainly was a lot going on there with that, but we were really talking about people even before that era.
02:16:01.000 I think when we're talking about The guy from Antarctica that, you know, I'm going out for a walk.
02:16:08.000 Maybe sometime.
02:16:09.000 I think there was something with the intellectuals of the day where they were way more uncorrupted by...
02:16:19.000 By the world that we live in today, in terms of, you mean...
02:16:22.000 Like they had a sense of duty, maybe?
02:16:23.000 I think it was a very important position, right?
02:16:28.000 To be the person who disseminated the information in 1795. And made decisions.
02:16:33.000 And made decisions, and was in charge of, like, libraries and books, and was teaching universities.
02:16:38.000 I mean, you've got to think of, like, what different British universities were around in the 1700s?
02:16:42.000 Like, quite a few, right?
02:16:43.000 Mm-hmm.
02:16:43.000 I bet you could name, like, isn't Yale from the 17...
02:16:48.000 I think Yale was founded in, I don't know, late 17, or I think Harvard as well, or at least, I think, didn't Thomas Jefferson go to Harvard?
02:16:56.000 What about Cambridge?
02:16:57.000 Cambridge and Oxford go, I mean, Oxford, didn't, I think Isaac Newton went to Oxford.
02:17:03.000 Yale was 1701. 1701 incredible incredible Wow so like back then amazing and that was the so you think of so let's just go to 1701 in 1701 the intellectuals were the highest expression of Civilization because it really wasn't that much Technological expression there really wasn't that much that had been done.
02:17:22.000 There's where there was guns there was some machines I don't even know did they even have a printing press?
02:17:27.000 I don't believe they did in 1701 when was the printing press?
02:17:30.000 The printing press was invented in the 1400s.
02:17:32.000 Was it?
02:17:33.000 Yes.
02:17:33.000 Oh, that's right.
02:17:34.000 That's when Martin Luther was... 0.68
02:17:35.000 They had a printing press back then.
02:17:37.000 Yeah.
02:17:38.000 What's his name?
02:17:41.000 Who invented the printing press?
02:17:42.000 I can't believe I'm forgetting this.
02:17:43.000 They certainly didn't have typewriters.
02:17:45.000 So they'd have to typeface things.
02:17:47.000 So they would probably read off manuscripts in schools.
02:17:50.000 So when they were in schools and they would write...
02:17:54.000 I think they had typewriters.
02:17:55.000 Did they have typewriters?
02:17:57.000 What year was the typewriter?
02:18:02.000 Probably back then.
02:18:03.000 Here's what's crazy about it all.
02:18:05.000 This is something that I've been talking about on stage is How recent all that was it seems it seems so far away for us But this is the way I describe it like people live to be a hundred and That's 300 years ago.
02:18:18.000 That's three people.
02:18:19.000 Isn't that crazy?
02:18:20.000 It's three people ago.
02:18:21.000 1714 by 100 mil.
02:18:22.000 There you go.
02:18:22.000 Whoa.
02:18:23.000 So they had 13 years there with no typewriters.
02:18:25.000 So they had 13 years with no typewriters.
02:18:27.000 Well, things were still written by Scrawl.
02:18:30.000 Things were still written by ink.
02:18:31.000 I'm sure.
02:18:32.000 It took a long time for that diffusion of that innovation.
02:18:34.000 When do you think the typewriter really totally...
02:18:36.000 Kicked in.
02:18:38.000 1800s, I bet.
02:18:39.000 In the 19th century?
02:18:40.000 Or maybe it was the 18th century.
02:18:42.000 In the 19th century before it was mass produced with the industrial age when you could make a lot of them for cheap enough for the populist to buy, I would imagine.
02:18:49.000 Isn't it crazy, too, that we still use the QWERTY, the way the keyboards are assembled?
02:18:55.000 It works, though.
02:18:56.000 We still use the QWERTY configuration.
02:18:57.000 It does work, but it's not the fastest way to do it. 0.96
02:18:59.000 And some people are dorks. 0.97
02:19:00.000 No. 1.00
02:19:01.000 Some people are dorks and they learn the other way. 0.98
02:19:03.000 What's the other way? 0.99
02:19:05.000 Dovrax or something like that?
02:19:06.000 See, find the most efficient typing configuration.
02:19:10.000 There's a second type of configuration that's more efficient, and a friend of mine tried it. 0.96
02:19:15.000 He tried to learn it, and he said it was, but it took him too long, and he would have to, like, reprogram computers when he got them, and he'd have to buy this certain keyboard, and if you had a laptop, you were fucked. 0.90
02:19:26.000 This is the alternative. 0.94
02:19:27.000 Yeah, Dvorak or Colmack.
02:19:31.000 That's interesting.
02:19:32.000 Okay, so there's two different ones.
02:19:33.000 QWERTY is what we have, but scroll up again there so I can read that.
02:19:38.000 So, alternative keyboard layouts explain.
02:19:40.000 Should you switch to Dvorak or Colmak?
02:19:43.000 So Colmak, C-O-L-E-M-A-K, or D-V-O-R-A-K. So there's two different configurations. 0.86
02:19:50.000 We see that configuration, like it doesn't have QWERTY at the top.
02:19:53.000 The very top is like those arrow keys and the dot and the comma, and then it starts with a P. That's the first letter on the first...
02:20:00.000 The first column and then the other letter it's A is in the same place, but S isn't in the same place.
02:20:05.000 Right next to A is O and S is way the fuck over there where your other pinky is. 1.00
02:20:09.000 It's really confusing.
02:20:12.000 But apparently, if you really learn how to type, that's the best configuration.
02:20:16.000 Because your hands can flow more smoothly.
02:20:19.000 And I think the...
02:20:21.000 Scroll back up there, please, so we can see that typewriter.
02:20:23.000 I think that configuration was...
02:20:25.000 If I remember correctly, they invented that because the old typewriters used to bind if you smashed keys next to each other too quickly.
02:20:32.000 So they decided to spread it out a little bit.
02:20:35.000 I'm old enough to remember that. 0.99
02:20:36.000 That's pathetic. 1.00
02:20:37.000 You're old as fuck. 1.00
02:20:38.000 I'm not kidding. 1.00
02:20:38.000 I remember that happening with my mothers. 1.00
02:20:40.000 When I was trying to type, I'll be at Calgary this weekend.
02:20:45.000 Did you just do that?
02:20:47.000 Are you going to be there this weekend?
02:20:48.000 I'll be there this weekend.
02:20:49.000 It's a fun place.
02:20:49.000 Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
02:20:50.000 Yuck, yucks.
02:20:51.000 Calgary.
02:20:51.000 Come see me.
02:20:52.000 I love Calgary.
02:20:53.000 I'm bringing heat.
02:20:54.000 They have good steaks.
02:20:55.000 Do they need factory farming up there? 0.96
02:20:56.000 They don't.
02:20:57.000 Not too many people.
02:20:57.000 Sure they do, but I love Calgary.
02:20:59.000 I love Calgary.
02:21:00.000 Trying to paint a beautiful narrative.
02:21:01.000 I love the people of Canada.
02:21:02.000 Don't you love Canadians?
02:21:03.000 I do.
02:21:04.000 We were talking about that.
02:21:05.000 Yeah, they're the nicest people in the world.
02:21:06.000 Yeah.
02:21:07.000 So I always like to go to Calgary.
02:21:08.000 I like going to Canada.
02:21:10.000 Oh, I'm doing Massey Hall on December 9th.
02:21:13.000 Tickets went on presale today.
02:21:15.000 It's with Russell Peters and Big Jay Oakerson.
02:21:18.000 Really?
02:21:18.000 Yeah.
02:21:19.000 The two of you guys?
02:21:19.000 Yeah.
02:21:20.000 And Big Jay's hilarious.
02:21:21.000 And Big Jay, yeah.
02:21:22.000 Wow.
02:21:23.000 And that's December 9th, the night before the UFC. That's impressive.
02:21:27.000 Yeah.
02:21:27.000 That's gonna be the time.
02:21:28.000 Yeah, what about you?
02:21:29.000 What are you doing that night?
02:21:30.000 I'll be in...
02:21:31.000 Well, I know...
02:21:32.000 I don't know that night, but I know that...
02:21:33.000 December 9th.
02:21:33.000 What are you doing?
02:21:34.000 December 9th and 10th, I'm going to be...
02:21:37.000 I know where I'm gonna be. 1.00
02:21:38.000 Where are you gonna be, bitch? 1.00
02:21:39.000 I'm gonna be in at the Fort Lauderdale Improv. 1.00
02:21:41.000 Oh! 0.60
02:21:42.000 I was going to ask you to come with us.
02:21:43.000 I would love to, but the Fort Lauderdale Improv is one of my favorite places to perform.
02:21:47.000 Yeah, it's a fun place, too.
02:21:48.000 Especially if you like drunks that are trying to escape from New Jersey. 0.96
02:21:51.000 Oh, yeah.
02:21:51.000 While we're plugging things, because Brennan Schaub will beat me up if I don't mention that Fighter and Kid live will be in West Palm Beach November 11th and 12th.
02:22:01.000 And in New York, Ramsey Hall, I think we're almost sold out, November 3rd.
02:22:08.000 Excellent.
02:22:08.000 So come see us.
02:22:09.000 Go see them.
02:22:10.000 Hilarious show.
02:22:11.000 My Netflix special comes out this Friday, October 21st.
02:22:17.000 So, available for download.
02:22:19.000 People have been asking if you can get it in other countries.
02:22:21.000 That's a real good question.
02:22:21.000 I will ask that myself and I'll find out and I'll get back to you.
02:22:24.000 You know, since you told me about dairy and not putting it in your coffee, I have not had the same throat issues.
02:22:32.000 You're having some throat issues.
02:22:33.000 What kind of issues are you having?
02:22:35.000 Well, apparently, and I didn't know this, but Brendan told me that I was always going, and my wife said the same thing.
02:22:42.000 I was doing that with butter coffee.
02:22:43.000 I switched.
02:22:44.000 If you hear it and you say, hey, I don't hear you clear your throat as much.
02:22:47.000 You're always going to have to clear your throat when you talk as much as I do. 1.00
02:22:49.000 It's a lot of bullshit coming out of my mouth. 1.00
02:22:51.000 I got to... 1.00
02:22:52.000 But I drink black coffee now during the podcast.
02:22:56.000 I'll still drink coffee with grass-fed butter and MCT oil, but I don't drink it before a podcast.
02:23:01.000 I don't drink it during a podcast, I should say.
02:23:04.000 Some people get bummed out. 1.00
02:23:05.000 Steve Rinell, he lives for that shit. 1.00
02:23:06.000 When he comes in, he's going to come in in a couple weeks, we have to give it to him. 1.00
02:23:09.000 He'll be sad.
02:23:10.000 He'll be sad.
02:23:11.000 Well, there's nothing like really good coffee.
02:23:13.000 I can't do any kind of cow dairy anymore.
02:23:17.000 I know you said that.
02:23:19.000 You like goat milk, huh?
02:23:20.000 Yeah.
02:23:20.000 I like goat milk, too.
02:23:21.000 It's good for you.
02:23:22.000 I like butter. 0.95
02:23:23.000 Butter I can kill.
02:23:24.000 I love butter.
02:23:24.000 Well, I'll tell you, when my daughter was little, if she drank milk at all, she would throw up when she was really little.
02:23:30.000 She could not drink milk.
02:23:31.000 You know, it's hard to gauge when you have a little kid, see what they like and what they don't like and what agrees with them, but goat milk went down like that, like nothing.
02:23:39.000 It was really interesting.
02:23:41.000 I mean, we're talking like she was a really young baby.
02:23:44.000 She loved goat milk.
02:23:45.000 But whatever reason, we stopped buying it and now we buy just regular cow's milk.
02:23:49.000 They did a really interesting experiment with goats and kind of proving that when you eat a food that's super delicious, like say you eat a peach and you love peaches.
02:24:00.000 Then you eat another peach and you love peaches.
02:24:02.000 But there's somewhere along the line where with foods that are also giving you nutrition, you stop.
02:24:06.000 There's a trigger.
02:24:08.000 So, whereas when you flavor food that doesn't have any nutritional value, you'll just keep eating it like Doritos.
02:24:13.000 You keep eating it, keep eating it, keep eating it.
02:24:15.000 Oh, I see.
02:24:15.000 And it tricks your body.
02:24:16.000 But there's something about...
02:24:17.000 So this guy did this experiment where this professor at this university took these goats and he starved them of phosphorus.
02:24:23.000 He didn't give them any phosphorus in their diet. 0.93
02:24:25.000 And they started doing weird things like drinking their own urine and drinking each other's urine and pawing at the dirt and weird shit because they need phosphorus. 0.99
02:24:31.000 Whoa. 0.93
02:24:31.000 So then he would feed them two different stables of food, but the coconut... 0.93
02:24:37.000 The coconut flavored and there was maple flavored food.
02:24:40.000 And so the coconut flavored food, when he'd feed them the coconut flavored food, then he would put a tube down their throat and fill their stomachs with the phosphorus.
02:24:49.000 And all of a sudden, the goats were...
02:24:53.000 Instinctively going for the coconut-flavored food.
02:24:55.000 Now, the thing you'd say is, wait a minute, maybe they just like coconut-flavored food.
02:24:58.000 But then he took the maple-flavored food and the coconut-flavored food in another control group.
02:25:02.000 And when those goats would eat the maple food, he'd stick the tube down their throat and fill their stomachs with phosphorus.
02:25:09.000 Now, the goats didn't know that they were getting...
02:25:12.000 And so that control group would always go for the maple food.
02:25:17.000 Because even though they didn't know they were getting phosphorus, they just somehow equated the fact that they were going to get the phosphorus from that.
02:25:27.000 So they think that human beings have this strange mechanism in their brain and body where once you are eating a food that has nutritional value, so if it's sweet like dates, It's got nutritional value as well or whatever it might be.
02:25:43.000 Somewhere along the line we get satiated no matter how delicious we find it.
02:25:46.000 If it's a natural food.
02:25:47.000 That's true because nobody eats like a giant bowl of peaches.
02:25:50.000 Yeah.
02:25:50.000 Right.
02:25:51.000 You might eat two if you're crazy. 0.88
02:25:53.000 Right. 1.00
02:25:53.000 But you'll eat a fucking pie. 1.00
02:25:55.000 Yeah, you'll eat a pie or you'll eat... 1.00
02:25:57.000 Pie with ice cream?
02:25:58.000 You might eat that whole pie.
02:25:59.000 Especially when it's artificially flavored.
02:26:01.000 Because that triggers this weird...
02:26:03.000 And one of the things in this book, Dorito Effect, is that this guy talks about the fact that that has kind of thrown our...
02:26:10.000 That's one of the things, one of the culprits of obesity, perhaps.
02:26:14.000 For sure.
02:26:14.000 Yeah.
02:26:15.000 For sure.
02:26:16.000 Flavoring.
02:26:16.000 Flavoring for sure.
02:26:17.000 100%.
02:26:18.000 That totally makes sense.
02:26:19.000 And then the sugar thing.
02:26:20.000 Yeah.
02:26:22.000 Chickens, because we grow them so fast, so usually, like after World War II, the fastest chicken they could grow, they had a contest to get it to the point where you could eat it, was 14 weeks.
02:26:31.000 And now we've got it down to six weeks.
02:26:34.000 That's crazy.
02:26:35.000 Yeah, so now what you're eating is big, fat babies.
02:26:37.000 The problem is that the oils aren't the same.
02:26:38.000 They're not as nutritious as an heirloom chicken, a chicken that's grown to eat when it forages like the chickens you have.
02:26:43.000 They eat worms and whatever they want.
02:26:46.000 I don't eat my chickens, though.
02:26:47.000 Yeah, but if you ate that chicken, the oils in the meat would be different.
02:26:50.000 It'd be tough, too.
02:26:51.000 And it'd be also more flavorful.
02:26:54.000 But because chicken has no taste, we had to figure out, there's a lot of things you gotta do to a chicken to make it taste. 0.99
02:26:58.000 You gotta brine it, you gotta flavor it, you gotta do all kinds of shit. 0.98
02:27:01.000 You know what's way better than chicken? 0.99
02:27:03.000 That wild turkey that we shot with vanilla? 1.00
02:27:05.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00
02:27:05.000 That was delicious. 1.00
02:27:07.000 I cooked that whole thing on the grill.
02:27:09.000 I marinated it in my standard marinade, which is Newman's own balsamic vinaigrette.
02:27:14.000 Yeah, tasted just like turkey.
02:27:16.000 I marinated everything in that.
02:27:16.000 It's so good.
02:27:17.000 Yeah.
02:27:18.000 The red meat, the darker meat was different.
02:27:20.000 Like the breast tasted like the way Rinello did.
02:27:24.000 He breaded it and fried it.
02:27:25.000 I used to do this joke.
02:27:27.000 It was good.
02:27:27.000 I used to do this joke about when we did our live podcast, Brennan and I, about how I called it Rogan's Gift when you bought me that bow and arrow.
02:27:34.000 And first I talked about when we hunted turkey and I was like, we killed this turkey.
02:27:37.000 We dressed it in the field, man.
02:27:38.000 And we cut it and it was...
02:27:40.000 I mean, I didn't shoot it, but I secured Joe's hips when he shot the turkey.
02:27:43.000 And I go, we cut it, we fried it up and it tasted just like...
02:27:47.000 Turkey.
02:27:47.000 You know, and they don't laugh.
02:27:48.000 And then I go through this whole fucking thing. 0.99
02:27:50.000 Remember when you gave me the bow and arrow? 0.99
02:27:52.000 And I was like, I looked at it, I was like, I didn't know what to say, because I don't know anything about boys, but I think I saw the Hoyt thing, and I went, you got me a fucking Hoyt? 0.96
02:28:00.000 And you were like, carbon fiber. 0.97
02:28:02.000 I go...
02:28:03.000 The whole thing?
02:28:05.000 100% carbon fiber?
02:28:07.000 You know how you try to show somebody you really appreciate the gift, but you don't know what to say about it?
02:28:10.000 Right. 1.00
02:28:10.000 Fuck, I can shoot things from a horse now. 1.00
02:28:12.000 You still have not shot one arrow through that thing. 1.00
02:28:13.000 Because you won't have me over.
02:28:14.000 No, you never organize it.
02:28:16.000 I'm not going to be the one who does all the work.
02:28:18.000 I tried!
02:28:19.000 He tries so little.
02:28:20.000 The greatest is this.
02:28:21.000 So crazy.
02:28:22.000 He tries so little. 1.00
02:28:23.000 Fuck that. 1.00
02:28:23.000 The greatest was you with that expert guy, Archer. 1.00
02:28:27.000 And the greatest text was that you were going to have me come over and I was going to shoot with you guys.
02:28:30.000 You got so into it, I got a text from you and you go, hey brother, this is not going to work today.
02:28:34.000 I got a lot of really important work to do with this guy.
02:28:37.000 You're so obsessed.
02:28:38.000 He told me.
02:28:39.000 He was like, you need to be looking at one person.
02:28:43.000 Like, if you're working with one person, you're working on their archery form.
02:28:46.000 Oh, okay.
02:28:47.000 If you're working on two people at the same time, you're not even going to get half the work done with either one of them.
02:28:50.000 That makes sense.
02:28:51.000 And he wants to do something with you and Brendan.
02:28:53.000 He wants to do something where he hooks you guys up with hoit bows.
02:28:57.000 I got my hoit bow.
02:28:58.000 Teaches you and you guys could all make a video we can make a video of you guys shooting bows for the first time when but he's like it has to like he's like I can't do that and work with you because work with me I'm Many years advanced not not saying that I'm really good.
02:29:10.000 Yeah, I'm not nobody I'm so far advanced from you guys like he would have to work with you so specifically on every little thing There's so many different things you have to think of when it takes a long fucking time like me So give me an example because I would imagine how you stand,
02:29:26.000 how you breathe, how you pull back.
02:29:27.000 There's a ton of different things.
02:29:29.000 It's how you hold the bow, what technique you use to draw back, what muscles you're pulling with.
02:29:34.000 You have to be super conscious of pulling with the muscles in your scapula.
02:29:38.000 Where's your elbow position?
02:29:39.000 How are you torquing the bow?
02:29:40.000 How are you gripping the bow?
02:29:42.000 Crossing the lifeline on your hand.
02:29:44.000 If it is, that's a problem.
02:29:46.000 You've got to readdress it.
02:29:47.000 How are you gripping it with your fingers?
02:29:48.000 Do you have a death grip?
02:29:49.000 Do you have a loose grip?
02:29:50.000 Is that affecting the actual trajectory of the arrow?
02:29:52.000 Is it torquing when you release it?
02:29:54.000 When you release it, do you punch the trigger?
02:29:56.000 Is the arrow flying randomly left and right in all sorts of different directions?
02:30:01.000 So many things.
02:30:02.000 It takes forever.
02:30:03.000 It takes forever.
02:30:03.000 It takes forever.
02:30:04.000 And I'm not even like one one-hundredth of the way there.
02:30:07.000 But I'm three years ahead of you. 1.00
02:30:09.000 You're fucked. 1.00
02:30:09.000 Do you think that the... 1.00
02:30:13.000 You're fucked. 1.00
02:30:14.000 Do you think that when you get really good at something, like just take archery as an example. 1.00
02:30:20.000 I know there's a book called The Venom and Archery.
02:30:22.000 It's a great book.
02:30:22.000 But do you think that when you master something like archery...
02:30:28.000 Like, do you think that's almost enough to learn about life, or do you think that that's a little bit romantic?
02:30:34.000 I think there are elements from anything you get really good at that apply to life.
02:30:39.000 The idea that learning something, getting really good at it, you learn about life, has been disproved over and over again by extreme winners who are gigantic fuck-ups in their regular life. 0.98
02:30:48.000 I think when you get obsessed with something to the point of excellence, to the point where you're the best at it, or one of the best at it, or you're in the running to be one of the best at it, your fucking brain does not have much room for a lot of the normal shit that everybody else has stuffed in their head. 0.99
02:31:02.000 You're not going to be online, on forums, gossiping about celebrity bullshit, or talking shit about the latest movie, or talking shit about the latest song. 0.99
02:31:12.000 You will be obsessed with one task. 0.99
02:31:16.000 And that does not necessarily make you a balanced person.
02:31:18.000 You might not have time for your family.
02:31:20.000 You might not have time to talk to your friends.
02:31:21.000 You might not have time to have friends.
02:31:24.000 I mean, you might be in recovery, training.
02:31:27.000 You might be doing a million different things to try to accentuate your abilities in basketball and football and boxing.
02:31:33.000 Do you know that that's almost primarily a male characteristic?
02:31:35.000 Of course it is.
02:31:36.000 That's a feature of the male brain, the ability to exclude everything else but one thing.
02:31:40.000 It's very rare you see that in women. 0.95
02:31:42.000 But you see it in women. 1.00
02:31:42.000 It's an aberration. 1.00
02:31:43.000 You see it in a lot of women athletes. 1.00
02:31:44.000 You see it in a lot of women superstars. 1.00
02:31:46.000 But it's also much rarer, apparently.
02:31:48.000 Of course.
02:31:49.000 Well, that's why when someone like Ronda Rousey comes along, you go, oh, look at that.
02:31:53.000 There's one of those.
02:31:54.000 There's a female version of the super winner. 0.85
02:31:57.000 They exist.
02:31:58.000 And they seek out male versions of those super winners. 0.65
02:32:01.000 And they have super winner babies.
02:32:03.000 That's standard stuff.
02:32:06.000 But to me, I don't think it's indicative of learning about life.
02:32:09.000 It's learning how to get really awesome at one thing, and that might translate, if you can step away from the madness and the momentum of whatever the fuck it is you're obsessed with, that ability to really completely focus in on one thing might aid you if you can completely focus in on life.
02:32:24.000 But the idea that an athlete or an archer or anybody else who's doing anything obsessively is actually focusing on life...
02:32:33.000 That might not be the case.
02:32:35.000 That's a good point.
02:32:36.000 I never thought of that.
02:32:36.000 That's a good way to articulate it.
02:32:37.000 You see great artists, like Paul Jackson, Paul, whoever they were, they weren't that happy.
02:32:44.000 A lot of examples of like...
02:32:46.000 You know, great authors or great artists or whoever, and they were so obsessed with their expression that they also lived depressive lives.
02:32:53.000 Now, whether or not, though, depressives tend to obsess might be another question.
02:33:02.000 Both things are probably true. 0.84
02:33:05.000 You know, I was a giant Prince fan.
02:33:07.000 Like, still am.
02:33:08.000 He was, like, one of my all-time favorite musical artists.
02:33:11.000 So, you know, when I found out that Prince had all these, like, issues with his health and he's taking pain pills and he was addicted to pain pills, I was almost, like, in denial about it.
02:33:20.000 I was like, no, that guy's too smart for that.
02:33:22.000 Like, that guy's, like, he's smarter than the system.
02:33:24.000 He figured out how to make a symbol to get out of a contract because they had to use his name.
02:33:28.000 So he was the artist formerly known as Prince and became a symbol.
02:33:31.000 I mean, that was what that was all about.
02:33:32.000 They were like, you can't use the name Prince.
02:33:34.000 He's like, oh, for real?
02:33:35.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:33:35.000 Motherfucker, do you know how famous I am? 1.00
02:33:37.000 I'll make a symbol. 1.00
02:33:38.000 I'll just be a symbol.
02:33:39.000 Watch this, yeah.
02:33:40.000 But then, when you hear Prince, like, interviewed, which you rarely do, like, you see his art, which is amazing, you know, I'd still, to this day, think that Purple Rain, you know, like, it's one of the greatest songs, one of the greatest, it was a great movie. 0.99
02:33:51.000 Great fucking album. 0.98
02:33:53.000 Yeah, Let's Go Crazy. 1.00
02:33:54.000 I mean, he had some fucking jams. 0.99
02:33:56.000 And in the time, he was revolutionary. 0.99
02:33:58.000 He's this weird little androgynous guy. 0.72
02:34:01.000 God.
02:34:01.000 The whole thing was crazy.
02:34:03.000 The dancing, the stilettos.
02:34:04.000 Little red Corvette.
02:34:05.000 Little red Corvette.
02:34:06.000 Oh, my God.
02:34:07.000 Guess I should've known.
02:34:07.000 Oh, my God.
02:34:08.000 By the way, you parked your car sideways that it wouldn't last.
02:34:12.000 Oh yeah, man.
02:34:14.000 And he had that hair all done up and high stiletto heels.
02:34:17.000 It was amazing. 1.00
02:34:18.000 My friend Tommy, I'll never forget my friend Tommy, he goes, he's so fucking gay. 1.00
02:34:24.000 And then he goes, and then he goes, but he's fucking awesome! 0.98
02:34:28.000 Yeah, but meanwhile, he wasn't gay. 0.98
02:34:30.000 He wasn't gay. 0.71
02:34:31.000 He was heterosexual, and he wasn't even really like any gay people. 0.55
02:34:34.000 That was one of the weirdest things. 0.98
02:34:36.000 He kind of said some homophobic shit that people got really mad at him about, about one of the reasons he was trying to equate. 0.98
02:34:43.000 Okay, stop. 1.00
02:34:44.000 He was trying to equate all of these different things that were going on in the world with people not following God's way and sticking their dick in any place they want. 0.99
02:34:52.000 And people were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 0.98
02:34:54.000 Did you just say that?
02:34:55.000 Yeah.
02:34:55.000 Did you just say that?
02:34:56.000 Yeah.
02:34:56.000 Let's go crazy?
02:34:57.000 You're the guy?
02:34:58.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:34:58.000 The fucking guy who dresses in purple and talks about being a pervert? 1.00
02:35:01.000 Well, he's very, very conservative in a lot of ways, wasn't he? 1.00
02:35:03.000 But what were you saying about him?
02:35:04.000 What I was going to say is that he also was into chemtrails.
02:35:07.000 He also believed that the government was spraying the sky, and that's what was making everybody angry.
02:35:11.000 So when you listen to him talk, and you hear him, like, discuss things, you'll realize that, oh.
02:35:17.000 Okay.
02:35:18.000 What he said about Kentrell was funny.
02:35:20.000 He said, you know, what I've noticed is that when a plane would go by, and you'd see these trails, and everybody started acting crazy.
02:35:27.000 Yeah.
02:35:27.000 And they'd be fighting, and all I'm saying is take a look at it.
02:35:30.000 Just take a look at it.
02:35:30.000 And I was like, I won't, I won't, I won't.
02:35:33.000 I love you as a musical genius.
02:35:35.000 I won't take a look at it.
02:35:36.000 But there's also a problem that when he said that, he was probably 50, and when he got famous, he was probably 20. So 30 years of being completely insulated and isolated, people kissing your ass, and you saying a bunch of poetic shit while you're alone in Minneapolis. 0.99
02:35:53.000 And being myopic about what he did, right? 0.99
02:35:55.000 Myopic enough to never read probably a newspaper or anything.
02:35:58.000 I don't know.
02:35:59.000 I don't know.
02:35:59.000 I don't know what he was like.
02:36:00.000 I don't know what he was like in that way.
02:36:01.000 Well, I think that's what he was like because I know somebody.
02:36:04.000 My friend's brother was in his band.
02:36:06.000 Really?
02:36:06.000 Yes.
02:36:07.000 Your friend's brother toured with Prince?
02:36:08.000 Yes.
02:36:08.000 My friend Rico Simone.
02:36:09.000 How many different types of AIDS did he get?
02:36:12.000 Well, no.
02:36:14.000 Rico Simone was just a wonderful guy.
02:36:16.000 He died of colon cancer. 0.99
02:36:17.000 And his brother, fucking what was his name? 0.99
02:36:19.000 His brother toured with Prince. 0.99
02:36:21.000 Yeah.
02:36:22.000 Wow.
02:36:22.000 And he knew Prince.
02:36:23.000 And man, that dude was...
02:36:26.000 He really did play every instrument fluently.
02:36:29.000 And he had high standards.
02:36:31.000 And nobody worked like him.
02:36:34.000 Nobody!
02:36:34.000 But it required almost all of him.
02:36:36.000 He was so devoted to just music.
02:36:40.000 Well, it's obvious.
02:36:41.000 You know, I mean, his style was so diverse, he just mixed it up a lot.
02:36:46.000 You know, he would like, remember Raspberry Beret?
02:36:49.000 It comes out of nowhere.
02:36:50.000 I mean, he was so different.
02:36:53.000 How about Kiss when he sang that Tom Jones cover and that high operatic voice?
02:36:57.000 You know, I didn't meet him, but I stood next to him at a party.
02:37:01.000 Prince?
02:37:02.000 Or Tom Jones?
02:37:03.000 No, Prince.
02:37:04.000 Do you know how small he was?
02:37:05.000 How small was he?
02:37:06.000 I'm going to go ahead and say...
02:37:08.000 And I don't care if NASA comes and shows me his measurements.
02:37:14.000 He was under five feet tall.
02:37:16.000 Really?
02:37:16.000 And I'm not kidding.
02:37:17.000 He was straight up under five feet tall.
02:37:20.000 He was in high heels and I couldn't believe how small he was.
02:37:23.000 Wow.
02:37:23.000 And he walked by me twice and then he was standing in a group.
02:37:27.000 And I was there, invisible, because everybody else was way too famous, and I just kept looking at him, and I was like, don't stare at Prince. 1.00
02:37:34.000 Stop staring at Prince and act normally, you fucking asshole. 1.00
02:37:36.000 He was just a little bit above a dwarf. 1.00
02:37:39.000 Wow.
02:37:40.000 For real.
02:37:41.000 He was absolutely tiny.
02:37:44.000 Shockingly tiny. 1.00
02:37:44.000 Do you think he got the most pussy ever for a little tiny guy? 1.00
02:37:48.000 Probably. 1.00
02:37:48.000 I don't know what his sex life was. 1.00
02:37:50.000 I don't know.
02:37:51.000 Who knows, right?
02:37:52.000 He used to bang Carmen Electra, right?
02:37:53.000 I know he wrote a lot of songs for people.
02:37:55.000 I don't know.
02:37:56.000 I was never in the room.
02:37:57.000 I don't know.
02:37:58.000 I shouldn't say bang.
02:37:59.000 I worked with Carmen Electra a long time.
02:38:00.000 I did too.
02:38:01.000 What a doll. 0.73
02:38:01.000 She's pretty. 0.73
02:38:02.000 Such a cool girl.
02:38:02.000 She's very nice.
02:38:03.000 She's fun. 0.93
02:38:04.000 She's friendly.
02:38:04.000 And a professional.
02:38:07.000 She's a good person.
02:38:08.000 She's probably just chilling.
02:38:09.000 I wish good things.
02:38:11.000 Do you really?
02:38:12.000 Yes.
02:38:13.000 You're so sweet.
02:38:14.000 I'm a good guy.
02:38:15.000 You're such a good guy.
02:38:16.000 I was doing a series that I thought was going to make me a star.
02:38:19.000 Yet another disappointment.
02:38:20.000 Yet another disappointment, ladies and gentlemen.
02:38:22.000 I was doing Fat Actress. 0.99
02:38:24.000 Oh, yeah, man.
02:38:25.000 I remember when you were high on that.
02:38:26.000 Yeah, Christy lost a lot of weight.
02:38:27.000 I got a lot of attention for that, and then nothing.
02:38:31.000 Christy Alley was in her peak back then. 0.98
02:38:34.000 I had famous Broadway directors calling me, telling me I was great on the show, and they wanted to put me in their play, and I was so excited. 0.99
02:38:39.000 Were they trying to fuck you, or were they being honest? 1.00
02:38:41.000 Nah, I'm trying to get some dick. 1.00
02:38:43.000 No, probably not. 1.00
02:38:45.000 I wish.
02:38:46.000 I'm not that good looking.
02:38:46.000 What happened?
02:38:47.000 That was a Showtime show, wasn't it?
02:38:48.000 It was a big deal because of the name.
02:38:50.000 It was very controversial.
02:38:51.000 Like, wow, she's so bold to have that name.
02:38:54.000 Yeah.
02:38:55.000 She was one of the first people to have a great sense of humor about eating herself into a bizarre shape.
02:39:02.000 She's smart and a force of nature.
02:39:05.000 She's a Scientologist.
02:39:07.000 She's a Scientologist in her house. 0.97
02:39:08.000 I've been in her house many times, and she had so many animals.
02:39:11.000 She had two blind lemurs. 0.99
02:39:13.000 You know, Kirstie would be the one who's like, you got a blind monkey? 1.00
02:39:15.000 I'll take it.
02:39:16.000 She had a rabbit, a giant desert hare that couldn't use its back legs.
02:39:21.000 Do you not feel the need to temper she's so smart with she's a Scientologist? 0.52
02:39:25.000 Well, having read Going Clear, as you have, and having been in class for over 10 years with many Scientologists. 0.98
02:39:32.000 Oh, I remember.
02:39:34.000 The class that was mentioned in that book.
02:39:36.000 I remember when I used to go visit you.
02:39:38.000 Do you remember when you and I went to watch a guy sing songs?
02:39:42.000 Yes.
02:39:42.000 And he was fantastic.
02:39:44.000 He was wonderful.
02:39:45.000 He had tassels on his shoes.
02:39:47.000 His choice.
02:39:48.000 He said something interesting about...
02:39:50.000 He'd been a Scientologist for 20 years.
02:39:52.000 Good call.
02:39:52.000 And he said, I am a Scientologist.
02:39:54.000 Somebody asked me that.
02:39:55.000 He said, let me put this to rest.
02:39:57.000 Yes, I'm a member of the Church of Scientology.
02:39:59.000 What does that mean?
02:39:59.000 I've taken a lot of classes there.
02:40:01.000 And I've gotten nothing out of a lot of classes, and some classes I've gotten a lot.
02:40:05.000 If you want to call me a Scientologist, then go ahead.
02:40:08.000 And then we just kept doing class. 0.99
02:40:09.000 He was a fucking great teacher. 0.98
02:40:11.000 Does that mean he's in or not? 0.99
02:40:13.000 I think it makes him in.
02:40:15.000 Jeffrey Tambor, who's the star of Transparent, used to be a Scientologist for many years.
02:40:20.000 He quit?
02:40:21.000 And it's called, he blew, he ran, he got out.
02:40:24.000 Do you get in trouble when you do that?
02:40:26.000 No, but there's David Miscavige, the secretive sort of leader, has never been painted in a very favorable light, especially if you read that book.
02:40:36.000 I don't know, though.
02:40:37.000 Yeah, it seems like a nutty little group of humans. 0.72
02:40:40.000 It does. 0.52
02:40:42.000 It does.
02:40:43.000 And Kirstie Alley was in that nutty little group of humans. 0.98
02:40:45.000 Yeah, like any group, anybody who belongs to any group, you're going to have dogma.
02:40:51.000 You're going to need tradition and story to keep that group together.
02:40:55.000 You can't have a group without having glue.
02:40:57.000 Right, but when the tradition and story was written by a guy who had a captain's outfit on with medals he gave himself. 0.75
02:41:01.000 Yeah, he was probably very crazy. 1.00
02:41:05.000 He was crazy as fuck! 1.00
02:41:07.000 Apparently there's a great new documentary that I've been hearing about called Holy Hell about some guy who got involved in some really nutty cult in 1985 and was in the cult for like 20 years and documented a bunch of crazy shit and is going to put a documentary out about it. 1.00
02:41:25.000 Wow. 0.99
02:41:25.000 Yeah, and the cult leader apparently hit his past as a gay porn star. 0.99
02:41:30.000 There he is. 1.00
02:41:31.000 Look at his abs.
02:41:32.000 Look at the abs on that guy.
02:41:33.000 Fantastically.
02:41:33.000 But people are always going to belong to cults.
02:41:36.000 People are always going to want to group up with their version of the truth.
02:41:40.000 A documentary villain for the ages.
02:41:43.000 An unprecedented close-up look.
02:41:45.000 We watch with bated breath as the mask is slowly pulled away, pulled off.
02:41:52.000 I always thought bated was B-A-I-T. B-A-T-E-D. What does that even mean?
02:41:57.000 Bated.
02:41:58.000 B-A-T-E-D. Bated breath.
02:42:00.000 I always thought it was B-A-I-T-E-D. No, because baited breath.
02:42:04.000 I never knew what it meant.
02:42:05.000 In great suspense, very anxiously or excitedly, he waited for a reply to his offer with baited breath.
02:42:10.000 I knew what it implied.
02:42:14.000 You know, that you waited, and you're highly anticipating it, but I never knew that it was spelled that way, or what it was supposed to...
02:42:21.000 There are a lot of weird words that you'll hear sometimes, and you'll just nod along.
02:42:25.000 I heard someone use the word solipsistic, and I was like, mm-hmm, yes, of course.
02:42:30.000 Yeah, I've read that one, and said, I gotta go back and do a definition on that one, and I never did.
02:42:37.000 But this baited, is anything else ever baited?
02:42:40.000 Is it only baited breath?
02:42:41.000 I've only heard it used in context of baited breath.
02:42:43.000 Yeah, but isn't that a weird...
02:42:44.000 That's a very bizarre word.
02:42:46.000 Yeah.
02:42:47.000 If it's only used with breath...
02:42:49.000 That's it, you know?
02:42:51.000 Some people are so good with words.
02:42:53.000 Like I was listening to, I was reading the lyrics of Bob Dylan's after he won a Nobel Prize for Literature.
02:42:59.000 Solipsistic.
02:43:00.000 Solipsistic means essentially that you can only be sure that you exist and you're not even sure anybody else does.
02:43:05.000 The view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist.
02:43:09.000 That's a weird word.
02:43:10.000 It's a very, I guess it's a limited view of the world.
02:43:13.000 You know, Bob Dylan won't respond to them, the people trying to give him his prize.
02:43:16.000 Oh, really? 1.00
02:43:17.000 It's like, fuck off. 1.00
02:43:18.000 He's amazing. 1.00
02:43:19.000 I'm Bob Dylan, fuck off. 1.00
02:43:20.000 Look at the lyrics of Chimes of Freedom. 1.00
02:43:24.000 And look at what he was writing when he was in his 20s.
02:43:27.000 He had an interview I listened to.
02:43:30.000 They were talking about these lyrics and he said, isn't that something?
02:43:32.000 He said, what do you mean?
02:43:32.000 He said, I have no idea how I wrote that and I could never do it again.
02:43:35.000 That magic is gone.
02:43:37.000 And he says, people look me up and they'll come in and ask me about organic farming.
02:43:41.000 And he goes, what do you know about organic farming?
02:43:42.000 And he goes, absolutely nothing.
02:43:44.000 They just put all this stuff on him because he was a great lyricist and a great thinker, obviously.
02:43:49.000 He wrote All Along the Watchtower.
02:43:51.000 Hell yeah! 1.00
02:43:52.000 He wrote, he was such a fucking influencer. 0.99
02:43:54.000 Springsteen was just doing a BBC interview and he said, it was the first time I'd ever heard anybody describe America the way it really was. 0.99
02:44:03.000 Look at this.
02:44:04.000 Far between sundown's finish and midnight's broken toll, we ducked inside the doorway, thunder crashing.
02:44:10.000 As majestic bells of bolts struck shadows in the sounds, seeming to be the chimes of freedom flashing.
02:44:17.000 Yeah, he was an interesting voice of a generation.
02:44:20.000 Listen to this part.
02:44:21.000 Flashing for the warriors whose strength is not to fight.
02:44:23.000 Flashing for the refugees on an unarmed road of flight. 1.00
02:44:27.000 And for each and every underdog soldier in the night as we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.
02:44:32.000 He was a young guy reading it. 1.00
02:44:34.000 Probably high as fuck. 1.00
02:44:36.000 What's that? 1.00
02:44:36.000 Probably high as fuck when you read all this. 1.00
02:44:37.000 I don't think he was. 1.00
02:44:39.000 How dare you?
02:44:40.000 You don't think he was doing drugs?
02:44:41.000 Bob Dylan? 1.00
02:44:43.000 Bitch. 1.00
02:44:44.000 Please. 1.00
02:44:46.000 You don't think Bob Dylan was doing drugs?
02:44:48.000 I don't know. 1.00
02:44:49.000 He was doing a bunch of shit, for sure. 1.00
02:44:51.000 I don't know. 1.00
02:44:52.000 Everybody was.
02:44:53.000 He was smoking weed.
02:44:53.000 Doing LSD, for sure.
02:44:55.000 I would imagine.
02:44:56.000 Who's that rock historian who said that rock and roll was the greatest when they were doing psychedelics and they were smoking weed?
02:45:04.000 When cocaine and heroin came in, it was when the music died.
02:45:07.000 That's when Lou Reed and that's when all those guys, the Mamas and Papas and all those guys, after Haight-Ashbury, I think 1968, when heroin and cocaine came in, the music basically died.
02:45:19.000 A lot of pot was smoked, it says.
02:45:21.000 According to Eric Von Schmidt, the early 60s contemporary of Dylan's in the Cambridge folk scene.
02:45:26.000 The Cambridge folk scene, good lord.
02:45:29.000 It smells like feet.
02:45:30.000 Where he, Dylan, and a singing pal, Richard Farina, usually got together, a lot of pot was smoked.
02:45:35.000 So yeah, he's probably just doing a lot of pot.
02:45:37.000 But if they were doing a lot of pot, I guarantee you they did some acid too.
02:45:40.000 They got a hold of some mushrooms.
02:45:42.000 Psychedelics and weed probably are not going to be your enemies as an artist, but I would imagine heroin and cocaine don't usually...
02:45:51.000 When do you think it's going to come a day when we require that of politicians?
02:45:55.000 We require psychedelic experiences like we require education.
02:45:59.000 When Bob Dylan turned the Beatles on to marijuana.
02:46:01.000 Wow, you got them high.
02:46:03.000 This is outrageous.
02:46:04.000 When do you think it's going to be a requirement for politicians?
02:46:08.000 Like, I think every politician should have a mushroom chip.
02:46:10.000 I don't think that's a lot to ask.
02:46:12.000 I think you should have to have survived a threshold breaking experience, a real breakthrough experience.
02:46:20.000 I would start with politicians having to go to another country for a while and just seeing how people live.
02:46:24.000 Listen, keep them here and dose them up. 1.00
02:46:26.000 Fuck all that travel. 1.00
02:46:27.000 Travel's dangerous. 1.00
02:46:28.000 Dose them.
02:46:28.000 Just dose them.
02:46:29.000 Just fucking put them in a room for a bunch of people that are going to watch the doors. 1.00
02:46:33.000 Keep them in place. 1.00
02:46:34.000 Turn the lights off.
02:46:35.000 Keep them silent. 1.00
02:46:37.000 And just dose the shit out of them. 1.00
02:46:38.000 I just think... 0.99
02:46:39.000 We all know, everybody that's had one knows that there's giant benefits to them.
02:46:45.000 But it's poo-pooed in society as being like a drug that's detrimental to your health.
02:46:50.000 It's detrimental to your function as a productive member of society.
02:46:57.000 Or you don't know where that drug's coming from, so it's right for danger.
02:47:00.000 It was legal.
02:47:01.000 Used to be, right?
02:47:02.000 Sure. 1.00
02:47:03.000 Until Nixon, that fuck. 1.00
02:47:05.000 Nixon fucked up a lot of things. 1.00
02:47:06.000 People don't realize, like, when people were doing ass in the 50s and the 60s, it wasn't even illegal. 0.97
02:47:10.000 You know, there's a lot of stuff.
02:47:12.000 Marijuana was illegal, but mushrooms weren't illegal until 1970. That's amazing.
02:47:16.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
02:47:18.000 But there's still stuff that's not technically illegal that's way more powerful than that.
02:47:22.000 5-methoxy-DMT. You used to be able to buy it, not for human consumption, from chemical companies online.
02:47:29.000 God damn. 1.00
02:47:30.000 You used to be able to buy, like, a fucking... 1.00
02:47:32.000 Coffee tumbler full of it. 1.00
02:47:34.000 Yeah, I'm not joking.
02:47:34.000 That you could smoke.
02:47:35.000 And meanwhile, an effective dose, it's 5-MAO-DMT is in more potent psychedelic ounce per ounce, gram per gram, than NN-DMT. It's the most potent.
02:47:47.000 It doesn't have the visuals.
02:47:49.000 It doesn't give you the visuals, but as far as like effective dose, it's the most potent. 0.99
02:47:54.000 So a small amount can get you fucked up. 0.86
02:47:56.000 And you used to be able to buy that stuff. 0.98
02:47:58.000 Where pot was illegal, you used to be able to buy 5-MeO-DMT online.
02:48:03.000 And if you smoked it, you just got shot through a cannon to the center of the universe where you ceased to exist.
02:48:08.000 It was a terrifying trip because you absolutely thought you were dead.
02:48:12.000 Like you absolutely cease to exist and you became one with everything and it's a very weird non-visual experience.
02:48:19.000 Whereas DMT is filled with all these patterns and this beautiful feeling that you get.
02:48:24.000 The 5-MeO DMT is like this powerful white geometry.
02:48:28.000 It's all just pale white and all these weird sort of microscopic fractal geometric patterns that are sort of dancing around you but all almost invisible.
02:48:39.000 What do you like about psychedelics?
02:48:41.000 What do you think Is typically the benefit of a psychedelic?
02:48:45.000 I think there's a lot of benefits to any experience and extreme experiences give you more benefits You you take in more data knowing that that psychedelic experience is possible Just knowing that that experience that you can hit You can hit that note that you can get into that that dimension and whatever the fuck it is in a psychedelic experience It makes you look at the reality that is unchanging around you without drugs and it makes you go.
02:49:11.000 Oh Thank you.
02:49:12.000 Oh, this isn't all there is.
02:49:14.000 Like, there's another thing that you can get to really easily.
02:49:16.000 You can get to this other thing really easily.
02:49:18.000 And although it's not regular every day, drive-through Starbucks, stuck in traffic, waiting for your phone call, you know, alarm goes off in the morning, you don't want to get up.
02:49:29.000 It's not that world, but it's still an accessible world that's right there that's mind-blowing.
02:49:34.000 Well, I think what you said...
02:49:35.000 Ego-dissolving.
02:49:36.000 Even prior to that is the idea that it shows you what is possible or what is out there.
02:49:41.000 That's...
02:49:42.000 To me, the most important element for change in a person's consciousness.
02:49:48.000 When you are shown that there is a higher bar, or you're shown that there are other possibilities, more illuminating possibilities, because a lot of times you can live in a world where your vision of reality that's given to you,
02:50:04.000 and that you're privy to on a daily basis, is so limited.
02:50:09.000 That you don't even...
02:50:09.000 You need to be shown that there is something higher to aspire to.
02:50:14.000 Yeah, for sure.
02:50:14.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:50:15.000 And so, I think that's kind of the value...
02:50:18.000 Maybe that's one of the biggest values to quote-unquote education.
02:50:21.000 Or the biggest value to exposing yourself to experiences like you're talking about.
02:50:26.000 Well, I think both of them are valid.
02:50:28.000 And both of them are important.
02:50:29.000 I think you should have difficult tests.
02:50:31.000 I think it's probably good for people to try to run a marathon.
02:50:33.000 I think it's good for people to try to rock climb.
02:50:36.000 I think it's good for people to go on long...
02:50:38.000 Difficult hikes.
02:50:39.000 I think you learn from that just like you learn from education and I don't think it's I don't think they're mutually exclusive and I think that they combine together for a balanced person a person who tries to do and tries to accomplish difficult things along with becoming educated the problem is that this whole competitive thing that arises amongst people where you want to be the best at something like we were talking about which sort of defines you in this way that requires a lot of tunnel vision and And it requires you to not be
02:51:09.000 fully balanced and not be...
02:51:11.000 You know, one of the things I had a problem with when I was teaching, when I teach martial arts, I noticed that smart people were way more nervous before fights.
02:51:20.000 And I was like, oh, I see what's going on.
02:51:23.000 They're aware of the variables.
02:51:25.000 Yes. 0.97
02:51:25.000 Like, whereas these dumb people that you would teach or the people that weren't as smart or weren't as curious, they didn't have nearly as much of a problem with competing. 0.97
02:51:32.000 I'm like, this is really fascinating. 0.96
02:51:34.000 The really smart people are aware of almost too much.
02:51:39.000 Yeah, well, David Foster Wallace in this incredible essay called How Tracy Austin Broke My Heart.
02:51:45.000 It's really a story about Tracy Austin when she won Wimbledon at 14!
02:51:49.000 And he said, then she wrote a book.
02:52:00.000 Right.
02:52:07.000 Ask a thousand questions to be introspective to the point where you're, you know, essentially neurotic or going around in a circle.
02:52:13.000 You can't have that.
02:52:14.000 You've got to be able to shut that down.
02:52:16.000 That's why when they ask great athletes to describe what was going on in their mind when they got that ball over the end zone, it's invariably kind of disappointing because they never really know how to explain it.
02:52:27.000 What they say is, I just knew I had to get the football across the line and we just executed and my team was there.
02:52:32.000 It's never like this.
02:52:33.000 Alex Honnold just did this thing recently about climbing this area of Yosemite that's incredibly difficult to pass.
02:52:39.000 That guy's amazing. 1.00
02:52:40.000 Fuck that guy. 1.00
02:52:41.000 It was just released. 1.00
02:52:42.000 I think the video is called Heaven something Heaven.
02:52:45.000 Alex Honnold Heaven.
02:52:47.000 I bet it's very bland.
02:52:48.000 He's talking about, as he's moving, and he's doing these...
02:52:52.000 He goes, I'm not thinking about anything.
02:52:53.000 I'm just executing.
02:52:54.000 And he goes, I'm just executing the movements.
02:52:56.000 And he's literally upside down, climbing this thing thousands of feet up in the air.
02:53:01.000 It's horrific to look at. 0.99
02:53:02.000 Goddamn. 0.99
02:53:02.000 When you watch him do that, and you're like, well, I don't know. 0.99
02:53:04.000 I mean, I guess he knows what he's doing, and he's done it before.
02:53:08.000 But when you watch him do it, he free solos heaven.
02:53:13.000 That's experiential.
02:53:14.000 It's probably hard to put into words, right?
02:53:16.000 Yeah.
02:53:16.000 I mean, he's the ultimate experiential guru, a guy who...
02:53:21.000 Yeah, but look what he's doing.
02:53:22.000 Oh my God!
02:53:24.000 Is he not using ropes?
02:53:25.000 No, no, he doesn't use any ropes.
02:53:26.000 Is that El Capitan?
02:53:27.000 Look at...
02:53:27.000 No, it's heaven.
02:53:28.000 This is what it's called.
02:53:29.000 But if you see how he's climbing this thing, this one area, I don't know, what mountain is it that he's up?
02:53:35.000 Maybe it is El Capitan.
02:53:37.000 Is that a mountain?
02:53:37.000 I think that's El Capitan.
02:53:39.000 I think that's El Cap.
02:53:40.000 Well, anyway, what he's doing is he's climbing up.
02:53:43.000 It's not straight.
02:53:45.000 It's leaned back.
02:53:46.000 I know.
02:53:47.000 So he's hanging as he's climbing.
02:53:51.000 And he's climbing thousands of feet above the ground.
02:53:55.000 Like, look at the trees below him there. 1.00
02:53:56.000 Look at that fucking picture. 0.99
02:53:58.000 When they find guys that fall off El Cap, they can't really find much of their body, apparently. 0.99
02:54:02.000 Find out if that's the name of this thing.
02:54:04.000 It's a bad situation.
02:54:04.000 Well, they can, but...
02:54:05.000 How many pull-ups can he do?
02:54:07.000 Did you ask him? 0.82
02:54:07.000 It's a dumb question, but I want to know. 0.82
02:54:09.000 I don't know. 0.99
02:54:10.000 Maybe he told me.
02:54:10.000 I'm so nervous.
02:54:13.000 Oof.
02:54:14.000 Does it say what the mountain is?
02:54:16.000 I think it's Yosemite.
02:54:18.000 Can you just carry a small chute on the back of his body, please?
02:54:21.000 Just go...
02:54:23.000 Yeah, well, he...
02:54:24.000 No, no chutes, dude.
02:54:25.000 There's no chutes.
02:54:26.000 There's no getting out.
02:54:27.000 Apparently, it's...
02:54:28.000 He knows what he's doing.
02:54:29.000 Sure.
02:54:29.000 And he can do it.
02:54:30.000 He's done it before.
02:54:31.000 But there's a lot of free solo climb dudes that see the stuff that he does, and even old-school climbers, they go, it's not a matter of if.
02:54:38.000 It's when.
02:54:39.000 It's a matter of when.
02:54:40.000 Yeah, there was this whole, um...
02:54:41.000 I hate it.
02:54:42.000 Television show they did about it where these old-school climber guys were kind of upset with him.
02:54:47.000 They were thinking that what he's doing is taking far too many risks, but he doesn't think so.
02:54:51.000 He thinks he knows what he's doing and he knows how to do it.
02:54:53.000 Well, I would imagine...
02:54:55.000 The route is called Heaven at Glacier Point.
02:54:57.000 Glacier Point is the mountain.
02:54:59.000 I would imagine the feeling...
02:55:00.000 By the way, good job, Brian Gallant.
02:55:02.000 I see one piece of stone.
02:55:03.000 I'm like, looks like Al Cap. 0.98
02:55:05.000 I fucking rock climb ten times. 0.97
02:55:07.000 We're both wrong about a hundred things in a podcast. 0.99
02:55:09.000 All the time, buddy.
02:55:10.000 Powerful Jamie here with the Google.
02:55:11.000 I'm sure my Uranium One will get...
02:55:13.000 I'm sure they had some smaller irregularities.
02:55:15.000 Oh, look at that picture.
02:55:17.000 Come on.
02:55:18.000 Oh my God, look at that picture.
02:55:20.000 That's insane.
02:55:20.000 Come on, man.
02:55:21.000 Please.
02:55:22.000 What is that?
02:55:22.000 Is that a 45 degree angle?
02:55:24.000 I don't know, dude.
02:55:25.000 That's horrifying.
02:55:26.000 Jamie, you would know.
02:55:28.000 It's close to a 45 degree angle.
02:55:29.000 How does he not get tired?
02:55:30.000 Have you ever rock climbed?
02:55:31.000 No.
02:55:32.000 It's the most exhausting thing.
02:55:33.000 I'm sure.
02:55:33.000 Your fingers and hands, you get so pumped so quickly that you literally can't use your hands.
02:55:41.000 The dude has very fat fingers.
02:55:43.000 It's really interesting because he's a very thin guy.
02:55:45.000 He did the podcast.
02:55:46.000 I know.
02:55:47.000 But when I was talking to him, I asked him to show me his hands. 0.99
02:55:50.000 Because you have fat fingers. 0.85
02:55:51.000 Yeah, his are fatter than mine. 1.00
02:55:52.000 God damn. 1.00
02:55:53.000 He doesn't have big... 1.00
02:55:54.000 I mean, they're not small hands.
02:55:55.000 What's his weight, do you think?
02:55:56.000 Very light.
02:55:57.000 Yeah.
02:55:57.000 He's probably 150. Tall?
02:55:58.000 If I had to guess.
02:55:59.000 Probably like 5'11", 6 feet.
02:56:02.000 How tall is he?
02:56:02.000 I just want to know what his body type is.
02:56:08.000 I think he's real light and long and thin and strong for that kind of stuff because he does it all the time and he just knows how to climb and he knows what he's doing and he stays super calm while he does it.
02:56:18.000 That's one of the things that he emphasized.
02:56:19.000 This is him at the very top.
02:56:21.000 See look how every movement is like really measured.
02:56:25.000 Dude, he's the master.
02:56:26.000 He's the master at that kind of stuff.
02:56:28.000 And he lives in a van.
02:56:29.000 He lives in his van.
02:56:31.000 He drives around and just finds places, parks, and climbs.
02:56:34.000 He's incredible.
02:56:35.000 He really is.
02:56:37.000 It's interesting.
02:56:37.000 He's a monk, huh?
02:56:38.000 He's like samurai or something.
02:56:39.000 I don't know.
02:56:39.000 He's a freak, that's for sure.
02:56:40.000 But I mean, he's made this name by being this guy who does the dangerous, scary climbing stuff that nobody wants to do.
02:56:46.000 When I read that book, The Book of Five Rings by Miyamoto Masashi, like I got the same sense that that was the experiential, like his life, the margin for error in a sword fight, and also he said how you practice has to be almost life and death,
02:57:02.000 like until you're no longer doing it, like the extreme notion of living always on the edge.
02:57:12.000 And that feels like the exact same path, mindset, and probably result.
02:57:20.000 I don't know if God forbid he dies, but it would be interesting to see sort of when that becomes necessity or that becomes, I guess, How you, or what you crave, this sort of intimate relationship between life and death.
02:57:38.000 Yeah, I think what he craves is doing it.
02:57:41.000 The flow you get into, too.
02:57:43.000 Knowing that there's a massive risk behind it, but still being able to execute flawlessly.
02:57:47.000 Like, that's what he craves, you know? 0.85
02:57:49.000 And instead of it being a sword coming at him that he has to check, instead of that, it's him figuring out how to climb a 45-degree face that's hanging 2,000 feet above the ground, or whatever the fuck that is. 0.83
02:58:00.000 How many feet do you think that is, above the ground?
02:58:01.000 When you look down, you see those trees in the background?
02:58:04.000 It looks like more than 2,000 feet.
02:58:05.000 Yeah, it does.
02:58:06.000 How many feet do you think you can climb in a day?
02:58:08.000 You know, because a mile is what?
02:58:10.000 5,000 feet?
02:58:11.000 5,000 something feet?
02:58:12.000 No, a mile is 1,300...
02:58:15.000 No.
02:58:15.000 434?
02:58:16.000 5,280.
02:58:17.000 Okay, I'm thinking yards.
02:58:19.000 How dare you.
02:58:19.000 This wall says it's 3,000...
02:58:21.000 It's wrong with yards, too, you fuck. 1.00
02:58:22.000 3,000 foot vertical wall. 1.00
02:58:24.000 3,000!
02:58:26.000 40 foot overhead.
02:58:27.000 So almost a mile.
02:58:28.000 I got like three quarters of a mile up.
02:58:30.000 3,000 feet above the ground.
02:58:33.000 And that overhang would mean 40 feet.
02:58:35.000 You're climbing out 40 feet.
02:58:36.000 Oh my god.
02:58:37.000 Oh my god.
02:58:40.000 Oh my god.
02:58:40.000 Let's wrap with that.
02:58:42.000 Let's end with that.
02:58:42.000 Let's end with Alex Honhold.
02:58:44.000 You're a bad motherfucker, Alex. 1.00
02:58:45.000 You are a bad motherfucker. 1.00
02:58:47.000 You should see how he lit up when Brian was going to introduce him to porn stars, though. 1.00
02:58:51.000 He was like, what?
02:58:52.000 You know them?
02:58:52.000 Really?
02:58:53.000 You know porn stars? 0.87
02:58:53.000 Yeah. 0.87
02:58:54.000 Brian Redman?
02:58:54.000 Yeah.
02:58:55.000 You ain't getting a pussy up there on the mountain. 1.00
02:58:57.000 No. 1.00
02:58:57.000 Listen, even a Zen monk can fall for those curves. 1.00
02:59:03.000 That's why they stay abstinent.
02:59:05.000 Massive distraction from your climbing.
02:59:08.000 Brian Callen, thefighterandthekid.com, T-F-A-K-T-U-Q-U-R-S-T-U-V. Calgary This Weekend.
02:59:18.000 LBGDQIA, Calgary this weekend.
02:59:20.000 Come see us in West Palm Beach, November 11th, 12th.
02:59:24.000 And on November 3rd, Gramercy Theater in New York City. 0.99
02:59:28.000 tfatk.com, tfatk.com for the fighter and the kid shit. 0.99
02:59:31.000 That's it, friends. 0.99
02:59:33.000 We'll be back tomorrow with Trevor Valley, paleontologist, archaeologist type dude.
02:59:38.000 He's been on before.
02:59:39.000 He should be a lot of fun. 0.99
02:59:40.000 And that's it, you fucks. 0.99
02:59:41.000 See ya! 1.00