The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #865 - Wim Hof

00:00:17.000 Jamie's too hot in here.

00:00:18.000 Turn the AC up. 1.00

00:00:20.000 Crank that bitch. 1.00

00:00:21.000 Get it down to zero. 1.00

00:00:23.000 No, I'm just kidding.

00:00:25.000 My man.

00:00:26.000 What's happening, baby?

00:00:27.000 Welcome back.

00:00:28.000 Dude, you brought notes.

00:00:30.000 Yeah, just a couple of notes.

00:00:32.000 I don't want to repeat myself since the last time because...

00:00:35.000 Oh, you're the only guest ever in the history of this podcast that has brought notes to make sure they don't repeat themselves.

00:00:41.000 Yes, this is the first time I do a podcast dislike or any other interview.

00:00:46.000 I never go programmed or premeditated or prepared whatsoever.

00:00:51.000 Just jump in.

00:00:52.000 But I think this is much more important.

00:00:55.000 It's Joe Rogan, man.

00:00:58.000 You're the Iceman man.

00:00:59.000 Yes, and you're a big window.

00:01:02.000 And I'm still on the mission, trying to get it out to everybody that we are able to do so much more.

00:01:09.000 And, you know, it's all natural what we do, so there is no money attached to it.

00:01:15.000 And it's a struggle to get it out there.

00:01:20.000 But we get more and more scientific evidence piling up, and I'm here to present new insights.

00:01:30.000 Well, I think that you're winning the struggle, for sure, because I hear about you all the time.

00:01:34.000 I hear about you all the time from people that have heard about you from my podcast, from people that say, do you know this guy?

00:01:38.000 And I say, yeah, he's been on my podcast, I know him.

00:01:40.000 So the message is getting out, 100%.

00:01:43.000 Wow, and that's a bio-parameter for me.

00:01:46.000 Thanks for sharing that.

00:01:48.000 Do you feel it though?

00:01:49.000 You must, right?

00:01:52.000 This morning I was talking to Tony Robbins. 1.00

00:01:54.000 Oh shit. 1.00

00:01:55.000 And he wants to cooperate. 1.00

00:01:57.000 Oh shit. 1.00

00:01:58.000 Yeah, and now I'm with Joe again. 1.00

00:02:03.000 I mean, those are big names.

00:02:05.000 I used to listen to Tony Robbins tapes when I was...

00:02:09.000 20 or 21, when I was a struggling stand-up comedian, I used to listen to his, what was it called?

00:02:15.000 Unlimited Power?

00:02:16.000 Is that what it was?

00:02:16.000 It was an audio cassette.

00:02:17.000 I listened to it, one of those old-school Walkman things.

00:02:20.000 Those big, chunky things.

00:02:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:24.000 Yeah, he's got his goal, charity, to get 100 million meals together this year.

00:02:33.000 And I'm going to help him there.

00:02:34.000 Oh, that's great.

00:02:35.000 What is he doing to that?

00:02:36.000 Just raising money and awareness?

00:02:38.000 Raising money and give billionaires, some very powerful people who have very good time insights in their own stressful lives.

00:02:50.000 I'm in there to teach them how to handle stress hormone at the deepest in the brain as in the body.

00:02:59.000 Beautiful.

00:03:00.000 You know, I had a friend of mine who was trying to do a parody on Tony Robbins, so he went and researched him. 0.97

00:03:06.000 And he was going to listen to some of his recordings, listen to some of his speeches, and his goal was to find what's stupid about it. 0.99

00:03:13.000 And then he started going, God damn, this guy's on to something. 0.99

00:03:16.000 Was it Callan? 0.98

00:03:17.000 Do you remember who it was?

00:03:19.000 We talked about it in here.

00:03:20.000 I believe it was Callan.

00:03:22.000 I think he was researching him for something that he was doing. 0.98

00:03:24.000 And then along the way, he started realizing, like, this guy is fucking legit. 0.97

00:03:28.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:03:28.000 But he's one of the rare ones. 0.95

00:03:30.000 Like, almost everyone that's, like, a professional motivator, then you go behind, you go, okay, well, what do you do?

00:03:38.000 You know, like, what do you do?

00:03:39.000 You just motivate people?

00:03:40.000 Have you done anything? 0.98

00:03:41.000 Like, you're telling people they can go do things, but what the fuck have you done? 0.98

00:03:45.000 What have you done, sir? 1.00

00:03:46.000 And most of them, they don't do shit. 0.97

00:03:49.000 You know, they just get together with big seminars and tell people they can do it. 0.99

00:03:52.000 You can do it! 1.00

00:03:53.000 Like, fuck, I can do it now. 1.00

00:03:54.000 But you never go, hey man, what have you done? 1.00

00:03:57.000 You, on the other hand.

00:03:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:59.000 You've done a lot of shit. 1.00

00:04:00.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

00:04:01.000 So that's one thing.

00:04:02.000 When people say, well, that Iceman Hoff guy, is he legit? 0.92

00:04:05.000 I'm like, bitch, do you have Wikipedia? 0.97

00:04:08.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

00:04:09.000 Do you Google?

00:04:10.000 Mm-hmm.

00:04:12.000 We love the life.

00:04:14.000 And coming January, we're going to do Kilimanjaro again in 24 hours.

00:04:19.000 Yeah, don't say we.

00:04:19.000 Man, you already offered that up to me.

00:04:20.000 It's not fucking happening. 0.90

00:04:21.000 You should, you should. 0.99

00:04:22.000 I'm not going to Kilimanjaro.

00:04:23.000 Hey man, Kilimanjaro.

00:04:26.000 It is almost, you know.

00:04:27.000 I'll be rooting you on from afar, from Los Angeles, while watching television.

00:04:31.000 I'll be live tweeting it.

00:04:33.000 Yeah, right on, right on.

00:04:35.000 We are doing scientific research and showed that the rat cell generation can be accelerated.

00:04:43.000 If it is so, in those circumstances, then science has to update itself.

00:04:50.000 What are the circumstances where their cells can be regenerated?

00:04:53.000 It's like in 24 hours, the body is not able to adapt to the circumstances where there is a lack of oxygen.

00:05:00.000 It is half the oxygen and less.

00:05:02.000 What's the altitude on Kilimanjaro?

00:05:04.000 It's like 20,000 feet at the top.

00:05:09.000 So at, say, 15,000 feet, the acclimatization, the adaptation is not as fast in human bodies.

00:05:17.000 Now, we found this breathing techniques and using the mind, and that enables us to accelerate what science is thinking, that it is arranged autonomically.

00:05:31.000 So outside of our will and we cannot interfere.

00:05:36.000 We cannot intervene.

00:05:38.000 So we will show that with like 30 people.

00:05:43.000 By the way, past January, I did it with a person 76 years old without prior mountaineering experience and he did it in 44 hours.

00:05:55.000 76, huh?

00:05:56.000 Wow, that's a robust 76-year-old.

00:05:59.000 He's dead now, but he was a good guy while he lasted.

00:06:01.000 Yes, so it was.

00:06:02.000 His candle burned brightly for the last couple of days.

00:06:04.000 His old life is dead.

00:06:06.000 He really transformed, man.

00:06:08.000 So, let me ask you this.

00:06:10.000 So, the standard model of what someone can do as far as how much red blood cells they can generate is observed, and they thought that it was at 15,000 feet, it became too difficult, but you've shown that with your exercises and with your deep breathing techniques that you can actually accelerate red blood cell count Consciously,

00:06:33.000 or at least not consciously, through conscious action.

00:06:37.000 Conscious action using the breath.

00:06:39.000 What techniques are you using?

00:06:41.000 What we did last time, but then adapted to while you are walking.

00:06:47.000 And when, you know, first sign of AMS, lack of oxygen in the head, means headache.

00:06:52.000 AMS is acute mountain sickness.

00:06:55.000 And the first sign is headache and that means a lack of oxygen inside the brain.

00:07:00.000 Normally we are not able to get oxygen then at that moment inside the brain to equal the balance, the disbalance, the lack of oxygen and I've learned just to do that.

00:07:12.000 So we tackle the problem and keep on able to perform in the extreme conditions even.

00:07:19.000 So through this technique of taking these enormous deep breaths, letting some of it out, and then trying to refill, and then letting some of it out, trying to refill, letting some of it out, and then you're forcing your lungs to constantly carry air.

00:07:38.000 Yes.

00:07:40.000 That it is.

00:07:41.000 We use the lungs as the passageway, but it gets into the lymphatic system.

00:07:45.000 It gets into the tissue.

00:07:47.000 You know what we just found with the university in Germany?

00:07:51.000 They found out that the devices that show that we have 100% blood saturation, oxygen in the blood, is not 100%.

00:08:02.000 We go more.

00:08:05.000 They found it out for the first time.

00:08:06.000 So what they thought was 100% blood saturation, there's actually a higher level above that?

00:08:11.000 Yes.

00:08:11.000 And that's what I always said, but now it's like proven.

00:08:16.000 So what they thought was 100% blood saturation was just based on what people normally do with no extra techniques involved, right?

00:08:24.000 Is that what it is?

00:08:25.000 Absolutely.

00:08:26.000 Based on that, they made devices.

00:08:28.000 And then 100% saturation in the blood is 100%.

00:08:33.000 And then you should be, like, sane.

00:08:37.000 But now we got this professor, a biochemical professor, whatever his name is, Mosquit, doesn't matter, Professor Mosquit.

00:08:47.000 Give him the name. 1.00

00:08:48.000 Fuck it. 1.00

00:08:48.000 Calm Oak. 1.00

00:08:49.000 Like Mosquito.

00:08:51.000 What a name, huh?

00:08:52.000 Professor Mosquito.

00:08:53.000 Professor Hickory.

00:08:55.000 Yeah, Professor Fly, Professor Mosquito.

00:08:59.000 This biochemical professor, and he tells, looking at the results, what you have produced with the university, regarding to the immune system and influencing into the autonomic nervous system, we can say you guys have found a way to tap into the tissue into the lymphatic system and take away the acidity over there.

00:09:25.000 And the storage capacity of the lymphatic system at that deeper level than the blood is actually a storage capacity to have chemistry which is wrong stored up over there so it doesn't mess with the rest of the physiology to maintain functionality.

00:09:46.000 So but in time you got to deal with it.

00:09:49.000 It's like garbage and that garbage we could not tap into that. 0.99

00:09:54.000 I'm so confused. 1.00

00:09:55.000 What is that garbage? 0.99

00:09:57.000 The garbage is a wrong chemistry like be an acidic state of chemistry in In the lymphatic system as well. 0.99

00:10:06.000 Right. 0.67

00:10:06.000 Do they know what that means? 0.67

00:10:08.000 Have they isolated that?

00:10:09.000 Is that an actual compound?

00:10:11.000 Can they tell you what it is that they're monitoring?

00:10:13.000 Yes.

00:10:14.000 It's actually that acidity, chronically there, not being dealt with.

00:10:21.000 This professor, my biomedical professor, tells us that 95% of the autoimmune diseases are caused because of it.

00:10:32.000 So 95% of autoimmune diseases are caused by some sort of acidity?

00:10:38.000 A long time presence of acidity not being dealt with will deal with you in the end.

00:10:46.000 And deregulate, say, the chemistry in the rest of the body, the biochemical processes.

00:10:51.000 Actually, this is quite logical, and he knew that, but then we came up with this.

00:11:00.000 What is the cause of this acidity?

00:11:02.000 Is it diet-based?

00:11:03.000 Is it stress-based?

00:11:04.000 Is it all the above?

00:11:05.000 Yes, anything that is stress.

00:11:07.000 Too much we can handle.

00:11:09.000 So diet, like inflammation stress, stress as far as pressure, daily life?

00:11:15.000 Any stress we are not able to deal with will be translated into chemistry.

00:11:21.000 And as you are not dealing with it, it will be stored. 0.88

00:11:25.000 I'm gonna stop you right here because for a lot of people that are listening to this like what the fuck is Joe Rogan doing on this podcast? 0.52

00:11:31.000 What the hell is this about? 0.93

00:11:33.000 You are very unique in that your claims are incredibly unusual but substantiated by science and this is not It's not woo-woo science that this is real legitimate researchers have what they injected you with what was it they injected you with?

00:11:50.000 With an E. coli bacteria, an endotoxemia.

00:11:54.000 An endotoxin, and then they monitored your immune system and saw that you could actively force your immune system to fight off this injection.

00:12:05.000 Very specifically within a quarter of an hour.

00:12:08.000 And this is something they did not think was possible until you performed this?

00:12:12.000 Exactly.

00:12:12.000 They saw that I was influencing into the so-called autonomic nervous system.

00:12:19.000 And then also for people that did not hear the first podcast, you have achieved, I believe it's, correct me if I'm wrong, 26 world records?

00:12:27.000 Yes, 26. Including, you have the longest time of holding your breath and swimming under Ocean ice?

00:12:36.000 Ocean ice, too, right?

00:12:37.000 Yes, ocean ice. 0.95

00:12:38.000 So this is fucking incredibly cold water where salt water freezes over, right? 0.98

00:12:43.000 Yes, yes. 0.99

00:12:44.000 And you ran marathons basically in your underwear.

00:12:49.000 Yes, in the shorts, and they say beyond the polar circle in midwinter, as well as in the desert without drinking.

00:12:56.000 No meter of training because I don't like running too much.

00:13:00.000 I just do it, you know?

00:13:02.000 I just do it.

00:13:03.000 It's like when your house is on fire, you run fast.

00:13:06.000 Right.

00:13:07.000 You don't need to train, therefore.

00:13:09.000 Right.

00:13:10.000 And so I know how to tap into this adrenaline system, the axis, the brainstem, the reptilian mode.

00:13:19.000 I've learned that.

00:13:20.000 Well, I have a lot of friends that have followed your course now.

00:13:24.000 My good friend Denny apparently was just with you this past weekend in San Francisco.

00:13:29.000 Denny Propagos.

00:13:30.000 He's a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu world champion.

00:13:32.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:33.000 Yeah, and a good friend of mine and a really interesting guy.

00:13:36.000 He loves your stuff, and he's fascinated by it.

00:13:40.000 I know a lot of other people that are fascinated by it, too.

00:13:42.000 A lot of people that I know that are taking your course and trying your stuff since the last time you were on.

00:13:46.000 So anybody who's listened to this podcast for the first time, you might want to go back and listen to the first one, and we go into great detail about all the different accomplishments that you've made with your method, the Wim Hof breathing method. 0.97

00:13:57.000 So in case you're listening to this for the first time, you're like, what the fuck is this? 0.97

00:14:01.000 That it is. 0.96

00:14:04.000 It's legit and legend.

00:14:09.000 We are legends.

00:14:13.000 Legendary because we go past perceived limits.

00:14:16.000 We go past the fear.

00:14:18.000 What we perceive as being possible, we go past it because we pioneer.

00:14:23.000 We go past our fear created by our conditioning.

00:14:27.000 Whatever we think, It's possible, and we do not dare to go pause that.

00:14:33.000 Well, it's funny that you're teaming up with Anthony Robbins, because you hear that Anthony Robbins, you know, Anthony Robbins loves to do those walking on fire things, but lately it's been causing problems because people pause in the middle, take selfies, and then they wind up burning their feet. 0.99

00:14:50.000 Fucking silly people. 0.99

00:14:54.000 It's so silly. 1.00

00:14:55.000 But we had Michael Shermer on, who's a noted skeptic and a very, very intelligent man. 0.89

00:15:00.000 He explained what it is, is that the coals are a very poor conductor of heat.

00:15:06.000 That's why you don't cook right on coals. 1.00

00:15:08.000 You use metal.

00:15:08.000 Metal's a great conductor of heat.

00:15:10.000 You put the metal over the coals, the metal gets heated up by the coals, and that sears your food.

00:15:15.000 You don't cook on coals themselves because it doesn't really transmit heat that well.

00:15:19.000 That's why you can, for 10 seconds or so, you can walk over real quick and you don't really get that burned.

00:15:24.000 Unless you pause for selfies.

00:15:26.000 Yes, yes. 0.62

00:15:28.000 I mean, go back to nature and then you see before we wore shoes, actually ridiculous things.

00:15:37.000 But we invented them and now we think with shiny shoes we are so much more beautiful.

00:15:43.000 Shoes do look good though.

00:15:44.000 Yeah, okay.

00:15:45.000 I like shoes too.

00:15:46.000 And colorful shoes and all that.

00:15:49.000 Very nice.

00:15:50.000 But sometimes, moreover because of all these devices, radiation, we get into the nervous system and we Charge it with negative ions.

00:16:02.000 And for that, you know, any electricity you need to ground if you got big charge.

00:16:08.000 So it accumulates in the body and therefore I suggest people walk sometimes just inside of nature, not all day, but release those negative ions.

00:16:21.000 I gotta write something down because I keep forgetting it.

00:16:24.000 Is that true though?

00:16:27.000 As far as negative ions and doing negative things to your body, have they ever found any correlation between the use of electronics and negative aspects?

00:16:39.000 I just feel so.

00:16:40.000 You think so?

00:16:41.000 I always go by my intuition.

00:16:43.000 I hate things, etc.

00:16:46.000 I want to prove it, but I feel a lot better doing this.

00:16:49.000 I'm gonna do the Kilimanjaro, by the way, on barefoot.

00:16:53.000 Yeah, man.

00:16:54.000 Like some challenge.

00:16:56.000 I have a friend of mine who went to Bolivia.

00:16:58.000 He has a television show called Meat Eater.

00:17:01.000 His name is Steve Rinella.

00:17:02.000 He's a professional hunter.

00:17:03.000 And he went to Bolivia, and he lived with the Chumani for a couple weeks, and they brought them shoes, like, hey, try these shoes on. 1.00

00:17:12.000 They didn't want to have nothing to do with those shoes. 0.99

00:17:13.000 They're like, get those stupid things out of here. 0.99

00:17:15.000 Because those people walk barefoot everywhere, and their feet, he said their feet don't look like anybody's feet. 0.99

00:17:20.000 He's like, they're all splayed out, like their toes are splayed out, and there's like a thick, thick padding underneath, you know, where they basically have their own shoes.

00:17:30.000 Like the calluses in the bottom of their feet act as shoes.

00:17:34.000 Hey, that doesn't sound too attractive for me to have, you know.

00:17:38.000 Too attractive?

00:17:39.000 I mean, to have feet like a heart.

00:17:44.000 No, what I do is using my mind.

00:17:47.000 So you don't want to have like calluses in the bottom of your feet?

00:17:51.000 No, I got very soft baby feet.

00:17:53.000 Do you really?

00:17:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17:55.000 My wife always tells us, hey, it's a softy feet.

00:17:59.000 Welcome.

00:18:00.000 You're a man.

00:18:01.000 So you want...

00:18:02.000 I'm coming, you're a man.

00:18:03.000 So you are gonna do this barefoot.

00:18:06.000 Are you gonna wear ice shoes, Elise?

00:18:08.000 No, no, no, no.

00:18:09.000 Nothing like that.

00:18:11.000 So your challenge is to go, once again, mind over matter.

00:18:15.000 But what about frostbite?

00:18:17.000 I did the half marathon barefoot.

00:18:20.000 You did?

00:18:21.000 Beyond the polar circles in temperatures even far more below than the Kilimanjaro is in.

00:18:28.000 Do you think that there's any benefit from the fact that you're walking so much or running and then your body's heating up and maybe that has a positive effect on your skin?

00:18:39.000 The thing is I'm very able to go in, to tap into the hormonal system, creating...

00:18:47.000 Adrenaline.

00:18:49.000 You know this fact where people sometimes refer to, they lift up a car, a mother, because a child is underneath.

00:18:57.000 That actually is the mind.

00:19:00.000 Staring directly into the reptilian mode, the reptilian brain, which is the primitive brain, and there you have direct access to pure adrenaline.

00:19:12.000 Makes you able to do almost inconceivable feats and accomplish it.

00:19:19.000 Only you need the right trigger.

00:19:20.000 Now, because I have been so much into the cold, Cold is cold.

00:19:25.000 It's a real power force impact upon you.

00:19:29.000 So you need to learn how to connect within with your mind and your breathing into the brainstem, into this adrenaline, to withstand this force, the cold impact.

00:19:40.000 I've learned it.

00:19:41.000 So you're tapping into your brain, you're causing your body to produce more adrenaline, and you're focusing on the areas of your body that are contacting the snow.

00:19:50.000 Like you're focusing on the bottom of your feet?

00:19:52.000 Yes, yes.

00:19:53.000 And it works.

00:19:54.000 You know, I'm still able to look around how nice the sunset or the sunrise and be.

00:20:01.000 So there is a margin even therein.

00:20:03.000 We just need to go back to believe.

00:20:07.000 And believe therein means the neurotransmitters and the neurons.

00:20:11.000 Those are signals.

00:20:14.000 And it charges.

00:20:15.000 So if you charge your body, then you're able to influence up to DNA level.

00:20:26.000 And we have proven this already with the IL-6 interleukinus, those connected to, say, inflammation.

00:20:35.000 We could not fend it off.

00:20:37.000 We could not suppress the cytokines, the inflammatory markers.

00:20:40.000 And we showed very effectively, not me only, a whole group of persons which I trained just in four days to be able to go into the DNA and create the right chemistry consciously by breathing and using the mind.

00:20:56.000 To fend off inflammatory markers caused by, say, bacteria inside.

00:21:04.000 So we are actually able to tap into the deepest of ours, create, have control over adrenaline, stress hormone, and go up to, not only in the deepest part of the brain, but also in the DNA. I got interesting things since the last time.

00:21:22.000 I believe you.

00:21:23.000 You got a pile of notes.

00:21:24.000 What is it about breathing?

00:21:27.000 What is it about breathing or is breathing just one component of this?

00:21:31.000 Is it breathing and also focusing on what you're trying to accomplish?

00:21:35.000 Yeah, focus absolutely works.

00:21:36.000 Let me explain a little about breathing.

00:21:40.000 Breathing is chemistry.

00:21:41.000 Oxygen is chemistry in the body.

00:21:44.000 So, if you are able to oxygenize the cells more than we do normally, because we talked about the lymphatic system and the tissue, and actually the body is able to store up more oxygen than the 100% we presumed possible.

00:22:04.000 Scientifically, we are able to store up more oxygen.

00:22:08.000 So, if a breathing technique, whatever breathing technique, is able to store up more oxygen in the cell, that means going into the tissue, going into the lymphatic system, then suddenly the chemistry becomes alkaline.

00:22:23.000 The acid gets out of the body at will.

00:22:27.000 And then the mind, the mind is little electrical charges, neurotransmitters, and they are suddenly able to connect in the body.

00:22:39.000 And enabling you to have control, direct, all the systems in the body.

00:22:45.000 That's the way nature meant it to be.

00:22:47.000 So the mind's condition to be effective in the body is making the body, by breath, the right breathing, profound breathing, in an alkaline state.

00:23:00.000 Then these electrical signals are able to travel throughout.

00:23:04.000 And the way nature meant it to be is that we are able to direct Any part of the body.

00:23:11.000 So the immune system, endocrine system, the lymphatic system, vascular system, all the systems.

00:23:18.000 We told a little bit last time, but I got more direct evidence now.

00:23:23.000 Right now we are working with the universities on the brain, on say emotional reactivity, and they see Incredible things that we actually are able to get into those places where emotion exists.

00:23:38.000 And we think, yeah, emotion, where is it?

00:23:41.000 Where is it?

00:23:41.000 But it is translated also as something chemical.

00:23:46.000 So they can measure motion in a chemical form?

00:23:49.000 Yes.

00:23:49.000 What are they measuring?

00:23:50.000 They go into, say, the hypothalamus.

00:23:55.000 Hypothalamus, hippocampus, amygdala, those are the places where this chemistry is going on.

00:24:01.000 And we had no way to get into that.

00:24:04.000 Now, if you are able to oxygenize those parts and to pressurize with breathing techniques into those parts, then suddenly you begin to cry.

00:24:15.000 Why?

00:24:16.000 Because the chemistry is changing.

00:24:18.000 You are dealing with the chemistry which was stored up because you couldn't work it up before.

00:24:24.000 And now you're able to tap in there, change the chemistry, and that's the function.

00:24:30.000 You're not able to deal with it now.

00:24:33.000 So later when you have peace and you are somewhere not stressful, then work on it.

00:24:41.000 And breathing does it.

00:24:44.000 It positively influences the chemistry in the depth of the brain.

00:24:51.000 You know what happens?

00:24:52.000 You create 25% more blood flow.

00:24:57.000 And blood flow is with oxygen.

00:25:00.000 Through your breathing?

00:25:01.000 Yes.

00:25:01.000 Well, it makes sense because your blood is carrying oxygen, right?

00:25:06.000 So the more oxygen you provide your blood, and you are definitely providing it more with these big, long, deep breaths and these techniques that you pursue.

00:25:15.000 Yes.

00:25:16.000 Manipulating up the spine, the central nervous system, up to the tunnel of the light, the brainstem is at the top.

00:25:24.000 So if you pressurize after inhaling, exhaling like we did last time, you did about three minutes almost without air in the lungs.

00:25:33.000 Very good, first round.

00:25:35.000 It's very promising for the next round because you get more and more oxygen.

00:25:40.000 It's only to show that you are able to store up oxygen far more than you ever used before.

00:25:48.000 So in case when you need it to regulate the chemistry inside the body, Then it needs oxygen.

00:25:54.000 Then we are all able, with these breathing exercises, to get it anywhere where the chemistry is messed up.

00:26:02.000 And a chemistry messed up will send off a signal But we are mostly not listening because we got our worries and we need to do the deadline and this and that.

00:26:15.000 And then this chemistry stays over there and will deregulate the system.

00:26:22.000 And then we become sick and we don't know what's happening.

00:26:25.000 We go to the doctor or the psychiatrist because we become depressed and all.

00:26:32.000 But we are very able to get into any place in the body, and in this case, the brain.

00:26:42.000 We do all these studies now with the university.

00:26:45.000 They say cognitive therapy, just talking to each other in the psychology and psychotherapy, that's not enough.

00:26:54.000 That was a conference with 200 experts, and they did this breathing.

00:26:59.000 And then they say, wow!

00:27:02.000 Talking only is not enough.

00:27:05.000 But if you do this breathing, then you really get into the brain.

00:27:09.000 Then suddenly you get a sense of control.

00:27:12.000 Because you're creating this extra circulation of blood.

00:27:15.000 Yes!

00:27:15.000 Together with oxygen, making it alkaline.

00:27:19.000 Then suddenly the blockage is created because of wrong chemistry, because of trauma, or anxiety, or grief.

00:27:30.000 Then suddenly that chemistry is being dealt with and you get balance.

00:27:36.000 Hmm, simple.

00:27:37.000 And we keep it simple and try to get this web of our thoughts, thinking of so many difficulties and complications.

00:27:47.000 What is emotion?

00:27:48.000 What is fear?

00:27:49.000 What is PTSD? What is trauma?

00:27:51.000 What is depression?

00:27:52.000 We don't know where it is in the brain.

00:27:55.000 Just get all the brain full of oxygen, get the alkalinity up, and you are able to steer by going through the spine, up in your head, And do it all.

00:28:07.000 Is that why, do you believe, is that why some studies have shown that rigorous exercise, particularly cardio, like running, elliptical machines, things along those lines, are just as good for depression as medication?

00:28:20.000 Absolutely, absolutely.

00:28:22.000 It's dealing with the oxygen tension.

00:28:25.000 And forcing, when you think those giant deep breaths you take when you're jogging or something.

00:28:30.000 Yes.

00:28:31.000 When you do those things, you actually create the body to be effective with the oxygen.

00:28:40.000 Then suddenly different mechanisms are at work, more oxygen is coming in and the chemistry is balancing out.

00:28:49.000 Depression is caused by a wrong chemistry creating inflammation.

00:28:55.000 You know, I'm a regular exerciser, but sometimes I just get real busy and I take a couple of days off and sometimes I take a couple days off and I just don't feel right.

00:29:04.000 Maybe, I mean, I'm not a self-indulgent person, but sometimes I'll just feel like, ah, God, I just feel kind of shitty today or whatever.

00:29:11.000 And then I force myself to exercise.

00:29:13.000 I go, look, I'm going to get up an hour early or I'm going to do whatever I have to do and I'm going to, you know, before I go to bed, whatever it is, I'm going to make sure that the day will not end until I exercise.

00:29:22.000 And when I do...

00:29:24.000 All goes away.

00:29:25.000 All the feelings go away.

00:29:27.000 It's like I have a new brain.

00:29:28.000 It's like I leave there.

00:29:29.000 I'm smiling.

00:29:30.000 I'm laughing.

00:29:31.000 You know, it seems like everything's just beautiful again.

00:29:34.000 And that's you.

00:29:34.000 And I'm the same person.

00:29:36.000 Very good.

00:29:36.000 It's also like my life is the same.

00:29:39.000 Not that my life is bad in anyone.

00:29:41.000 My life is fantastic.

00:29:42.000 It's all great stuff.

00:29:43.000 But just being a person.

00:29:45.000 Sometimes being a person is overwhelming.

00:29:47.000 You're tired.

00:29:48.000 You have a lot of obligations.

00:29:50.000 There's a lot on your plate.

00:29:52.000 There's a lot of things going on.

00:29:53.000 Sometimes it's overwhelming.

00:29:54.000 Sometimes you just feel down.

00:29:58.000 I have a good life.

00:29:59.000 It's a fun life.

00:30:01.000 If I didn't have a fun life and that happened, it would just be compounding all the other issues that I have.

00:30:06.000 Now, tack on that if I was overweight.

00:30:09.000 Tack on that if I was hooked on pills, or I was an alcoholic, or cigarette smoking, or one of the other things that are really terrible for you that so many people suffer from.

00:30:19.000 All those things.

00:30:21.000 I think there's so many people that think of depression or bad states of mind as being just a hand that you're dealt.

00:30:30.000 And I don't necessarily think it's the case with everybody because I don't know how everybody's mind works.

00:30:36.000 But I know certainly from my mind, I can absolutely regulate those ups and downs based on rigorous exercise.

00:30:45.000 And it doesn't have to be lifting weights or crossfit or jujitsu or anything crazy.

00:30:49.000 Just go walk up a hill.

00:30:51.000 Just go hike.

00:30:53.000 Just go hike. 0.92

00:30:53.000 You go hike, you take those big deep breaths, you get to the top of that hill and you fucking feel great. 0.92

00:30:58.000 Yeah. 0.85

00:30:59.000 Yeah, very good.

00:31:00.000 So I can do that too.

00:31:03.000 Oh, you could do it.

00:31:04.000 You do it in your underwear.

00:31:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:07.000 Go to the extreme and show that it is all possible, even in the most extreme conditions.

00:31:14.000 Now I'm knocking at the door of science and I feel I'm able to help.

00:31:24.000 Well, science is very much interested in what you're doing.

00:31:27.000 Yes, they do.

00:31:29.000 The scientific community embrace this.

00:31:32.000 But now I feel, hey man, I'm able actually to help human mankind.

00:31:38.000 Well, it's so extraordinary that one person has this kind of influence.

00:31:41.000 I mean, I hope you realize what a service you're providing to people.

00:31:46.000 You too.

00:31:48.000 Bringing awareness.

00:31:50.000 Well, thank you.

00:31:51.000 But all I'm doing is just talking to someone who's awesome.

00:31:53.000 It's pretty easy.

00:31:54.000 But this thing that you've done, you would think that other people would have figured it out.

00:31:59.000 And that's what I find most fascinating about you.

00:32:01.000 I would have thought that last time you were here.

00:32:03.000 I mean, it's hard to believe there are so few people that have done what you've done or figured out what you've figured out.

00:32:11.000 And then, even more unusual what you've done is you've gone to scientists and you said, hey, I think I'm onto something.

00:32:19.000 Please study me.

00:32:20.000 Like, please study what I'm doing, and you got people to listen to you.

00:32:23.000 By accomplishing all these incredible feats, they go, well, this guy obviously is doing something. 0.97

00:32:27.000 I mean, who the fuck can swim 100 yards under frozen ice in one breath? 0.99

00:32:31.000 Who the fuck is running marathons barefoot above the polar circle? 1.00

00:32:37.000 All this shit that you're doing, it's wonderful. 1.00

00:32:40.000 You're forcing people to acknowledge the fact that something extraordinary is going on. 0.99

00:32:46.000 So it is.

00:32:46.000 And, you know, we've got big problems and issues with people with PTSD, depression, trauma, fear, anxiety in general.

00:32:53.000 It's all stress.

00:32:55.000 Stress hormone.

00:32:56.000 And now, using the...

00:32:58.000 developing a method and finding it out because I... I was in this quest to go deeper within myself, finding the cold as the right teacher to bring me into the depth of my physiology,

00:33:14.000 finally finding the way nature meant me to be, to feel strong and in control of myself.

00:33:22.000 I brought this now to science, and now it is a matter of time that we will resolve what we have lost.

00:33:32.000 The connection with the depth of ourselves.

00:33:35.000 And that means for people, maybe not for you, because you are able to handle your mood and your physical strength and your health, that's good.

00:33:46.000 But for those who have PTSD, trauma, anxiety, fear, depression, autoimmune diseases, cancer, all these things, I think nature knows.

00:33:59.000 And I found these keys in nature.

00:34:02.000 I just bring it to the science and we forgot about the nature.

00:34:07.000 This is where I made a couple of notes.

00:34:13.000 And I think, you know, if we are able not only to show that the autonomic nervous system, the hormonal system, the immune system can be influenced deeply, That means, hormonal system, that is the melatonin, serotonin,

00:34:28.000 dopamine, any feel-good hormone within us and the ability to tap into that system and create those hormones when necessary.

00:34:38.000 When you feel bad, you just get a shot naturally by breathing and believing of the right hormones and you feel great.

00:34:48.000 Okay, and then you got the strength, which is also based on hormones.

00:34:53.000 Hormonal secretions like adrenaline, epinephrine, cortisol, those.

00:35:01.000 And we show people lying in bed, as I told last time, in bed producing more adrenaline, controlled stress hormone.

00:35:11.000 Than somebody going into, in fear, going into its first bunker jump.

00:35:16.000 That means controlled stress among adrenaline.

00:35:19.000 Adrenaline, which is controlled, is stress among, works like a medicine.

00:35:23.000 Anytime.

00:35:24.000 It brings you back to the way nature made us most effective in situations of danger.

00:35:31.000 That could be cold, extreme cold, heat.

00:35:35.000 It could be being predated by the lycan drop, like, you know, the werewolves.

00:35:40.000 Or, yes, real.

00:35:43.000 Real werewolves?

00:35:45.000 I think in society there are werewolves even bigger than the one I saw here.

00:35:51.000 What do you think is a werewolf?

00:35:53.000 Big sharks.

00:35:54.000 You're using an analogy, obviously.

00:35:56.000 You don't think that people really turn to wolves.

00:35:58.000 No, no, no, no, not really, only in Hollywood.

00:36:02.000 Right.

00:36:02.000 And lycan tropes and all that.

00:36:04.000 Very nice.

00:36:06.000 Very nice.

00:36:08.000 Very nice.

00:36:09.000 I like him.

00:36:10.000 I just already made a picture.

00:36:12.000 It's a beautiful piece of art.

00:36:17.000 And that, you know, that's the strength part, and then you got the health part.

00:36:23.000 That's the immune system and all its layers.

00:36:26.000 Well, let me ask you this, because adrenaline with fighting is considered to be a very dangerous thing to manage, because there's a thing called an adrenaline dump that happens to a lot of fighters, where they get so worked up, they're so jazzed up before a fight,

00:36:42.000 and then they're in the fight, and then somewhere around the first round, The adrenaline goes away.

00:36:47.000 And they have this dump.

00:36:48.000 And they get exhausted.

00:36:50.000 I did say it.

00:36:51.000 And that's very interesting.

00:36:53.000 It's called adrenaline dump.

00:36:54.000 And it happens.

00:36:55.000 I mean, they're under extreme stressful situations.

00:36:57.000 And guys gas out.

00:36:58.000 They get very tired very quickly.

00:37:00.000 And a lot of them talk about it.

00:37:02.000 They say, I couldn't believe how tired I got.

00:37:04.000 And it's attributed to adrenaline.

00:37:07.000 Yes, but that then is no control over the adrenaline flow.

00:37:11.000 Right.

00:37:12.000 So they allow it to run away from them.

00:37:14.000 It's like that old expression.

00:37:15.000 Do you remember that?

00:37:16.000 There was a very famous customato expression.

00:37:19.000 Customato was the guy who trained Mike Tyson.

00:37:21.000 He said, fire can be your friend or it can be your enemy.

00:37:24.000 It can cook your food or it can burn your house down.

00:37:26.000 It depends on how you control it. 0.98

00:37:28.000 It's all very interesting, you know, the fighting modus of ours, which is related to the fight modus, fight, flight, food, freeze, and fuck. 0.98

00:37:38.000 That's the brainstem. 0.90

00:37:40.000 Yes, it's all the same energy.

00:37:42.000 It's all the same energy.

00:37:44.000 Really?

00:37:44.000 Yeah, procreation, protect your children, food.

00:37:47.000 Primal.

00:37:48.000 Primal.

00:37:49.000 Those primal forces are directly related to adrenaline.

00:37:54.000 And we lost control there over because we lost a deeper connection with that system within our brain, the brainstem.

00:38:04.000 And therefore we do not know how to handle danger anymore as such.

00:38:10.000 Danger is not only cold and heat and oxygen-deprived situations like Mount Everest or something, but also daily stress.

00:38:22.000 It's also things that carry with them extreme consequences.

00:38:26.000 Yes.

00:38:26.000 Where you get nervous and you get freaked out.

00:38:29.000 Yes.

00:38:29.000 I think that's...

00:38:31.000 For people that aren't in situations that are very stressful, very often, it becomes a huge issue.

00:38:37.000 And they oftentimes can't control their adrenaline.

00:38:39.000 They can't control their anxiety.

00:38:40.000 They can't control even their own thoughts.

00:38:44.000 They get tunnel vision.

00:38:46.000 It's like they're in an elevator as the doors are closing shut and they can't see.

00:38:50.000 You literally see it in fights.

00:38:53.000 You see people panic, and that panic does not allow them to be present, which does not allow them to perform at their very best.

00:39:02.000 And they're almost always severely diminished because of that adrenaline, or because of that panic, I should say.

00:39:09.000 Not necessarily the adrenaline, but the loss of management, loss of...

00:39:17.000 Your ability to be sovereign.

00:39:19.000 You're not in control anymore.

00:39:20.000 It's like you're being carried away by a wave of fear.

00:39:23.000 Yes.

00:39:24.000 Now, I deal with sports people.

00:39:28.000 I know you did a lot of work with Alistair over there.

00:39:30.000 Yeah, and many more.

00:39:31.000 Many more.

00:39:32.000 And in general, when they do the breathing exercises and the cold exposures, They become just more energetic and they have a lot more connection with their own body, creating confidence within themselves and then they are able to build up this connection mind to body and then their cardio increases,

00:39:58.000 their tranquility increases.

00:40:01.000 Well, you had some great results with Alistair, let me tell you that, because he was on a downward spiral before he started working with you.

00:40:07.000 He's going to come to Kilimanjaro, too, because I need to train him again.

00:40:11.000 I think he lost track a little bit on the breathing exercises, and he thought he was already there.

00:40:19.000 I think.

00:40:20.000 That's my opinion.

00:40:22.000 And I talked to...

00:40:24.000 We will go to the Kilimanjaro.

00:40:27.000 I will say, listen...

00:40:29.000 Here you have to breathe.

00:40:31.000 Here you will understand the significance of breathing.

00:40:35.000 And not to take it too lightly.

00:40:37.000 Go back into yourself and do not think you are there.

00:40:42.000 Be there.

00:40:44.000 And the mountain, the Mother Nature will show you.

00:40:48.000 It's not me.

00:40:49.000 I just know to abide by the laws of Mother Nature.

00:40:52.000 And that's why I do these feats there.

00:40:55.000 And it makes me able to adapt very rapidly to changes in like cold, heat, oxygen-deprivative situations, anything.

00:41:05.000 It's there.

00:41:09.000 Mother Nature will teach him.

00:41:11.000 Why do you think that he stopped doing it?

00:41:14.000 What gives you that indication?

00:41:17.000 There's a certain moment people think...

00:41:20.000 I control.

00:41:22.000 I can control it.

00:41:23.000 I can do it.

00:41:24.000 And I'm in a positive spiral going up and it's all okay.

00:41:29.000 Then they leave this connection and they fall back in the old patterns, the old neurology, the old conditioning.

00:41:37.000 So they require daily practice?

00:41:40.000 Until it's really mastered.

00:41:43.000 I mean, how many years it takes to condition your body?

00:41:49.000 Really?

00:41:50.000 To become really so good to be in, say, K1 and MMA at the top?

00:41:57.000 It takes years to build that up.

00:42:00.000 But still, there you will compete with people who also condition their bodies.

00:42:08.000 So it's an equal thing going up, and what makes the difference?

00:42:12.000 That's the connection of your mind with your body, of your brainstem with your conscious will, and the body controlling the adrenaline.

00:42:23.000 Not only, also epinephrine, noradrenaline, dopamine, anything.

00:42:29.000 Now when you're watching someone like Alistair fight and he just fought for the UFC heavyweight title and came very close to winning a couple times in that first round and wound up losing, what makes you think that breathing could have helped him in that?

00:42:43.000 Because he almost won the fight.

00:42:45.000 He almost knocked Stipe out.

00:42:46.000 He almost caught him in a guillotine choke.

00:42:48.000 I mean, and he had Stipe in a lot of trouble on two separate occasions.

00:42:52.000 Then Stipe caught him and knocked him out.

00:42:55.000 What makes you think that breathing would have helped him there?

00:43:00.000 Breathing brings in oxygen.

00:43:02.000 Oxygen makes the body alkaline.

00:43:04.000 The nervous system, that is a nervous system, goes better when it's alkaline.

00:43:12.000 The swiftness of neurotransmitters, acetylcholine, which is a neurotransmitter, makes the body react like Bruce Lee thinks.

00:43:22.000 What is that word again?

00:43:23.000 Say that word again?

00:43:25.000 Acetylcholine.

00:43:29.000 Acetylcholine?

00:43:29.000 Yes.

00:43:30.000 Okay.

00:43:31.000 Yes.

00:43:33.000 What I do all the time with people or women who are not able to do push-ups, I make them do the breathing, influence muscle tissue, making it alkaline, so the neurotransmitter, the performance neurotransmitter suddenly is able to keep on because it's not becoming acidic.

00:43:54.000 When you say acidic and alkaline, what are you measuring?

00:43:56.000 Are you measuring blood?

00:43:57.000 Are you measuring...

00:43:59.000 Muscle tissue.

00:44:00.000 How are they doing?

00:44:01.000 Myoglobin.

00:44:03.000 You can, with a simple pH strip, you can show yourself, say, before a fight.

00:44:14.000 And who's doing these tests?

00:44:16.000 Scientists are doing these tests?

00:44:18.000 Yes.

00:44:19.000 We just completed new studies with 48 people, and it showed that all the people got to very, very high alkaline levels in the blood, like 7.8.

00:44:34.000 What's normal?

00:44:35.000 7.3, 7.4 is natural.

00:44:38.000 And then you got all the way up to 7.8.

00:44:40.000 And then it comes back and it stays over there for all the day long.

00:44:45.000 And that's what you want.

00:44:47.000 But most of the people are acidic.

00:44:50.000 If you pee on it, and then you will see, with a pH strip, yellow to blue, and green in the middle, and all these variations, then you see most of the people are just yellow in the morning.

00:45:02.000 They do the breathing 20 minutes, and they become blue.

00:45:07.000 Boom.

00:45:08.000 And that's where you want to have it, because the neurotransmitters, the electrical signals in the body, they travel a lot faster when it's alkaline.

00:45:19.000 So your same punch will be faster if it is alkaline than when it's acidic.

00:45:25.000 And actually it's illogical.

00:45:26.000 If I'm going to train with this and become acidic at a certain moment, you know, I get to my limit, then I'm not punching as fast than when I'm alkaline.

00:45:38.000 It's all in the muscle.

00:45:39.000 And we are able to influence therein.

00:45:44.000 He wasn't too much in the breathing anymore.

00:45:47.000 Did he tell you this?

00:45:50.000 No, I saw it.

00:45:51.000 How did you tell?

00:45:53.000 I measured it before.

00:45:54.000 I was in his room and I tested him.

00:45:58.000 Hey, how is your breathing and how is your retentions?

00:46:02.000 Like what you did two and a half minutes the first round, you remember?

00:46:06.000 That means you store up oxygen in the body and therefore you have no need for breathing.

00:46:12.000 Right.

00:46:12.000 And you were just measuring that.

00:46:15.000 Do you think any of that had to do with the stress of fighting for the first time for the UFC title?

00:46:19.000 No.

00:46:20.000 He was too confident.

00:46:24.000 Really?

00:46:24.000 You think he was too confident?

00:46:26.000 Too confident.

00:46:26.000 Why do you say that?

00:46:27.000 Because I was always psyched.

00:46:29.000 Yeah, but it didn't seem that the way to me.

00:46:31.000 As a trained observer, I felt he was dealing with a lot of anxiety.

00:46:36.000 Because especially the way he was fighting, he was, I mean, he literally was running at certain points in the fight.

00:46:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:41.000 I was there.

00:46:43.000 Yeah.

00:46:43.000 I saw you there in the ring.

00:46:45.000 I was somewhere on the stairs.

00:46:46.000 No, I know.

00:46:47.000 I'm just saying, like, when I look at that, and I look at the way he was performing, he wasn't performing the way he performed against Junior Dos Santos.

00:46:55.000 Yes, exactly.

00:46:56.000 Yeah.

00:46:57.000 And that's because, and that's what I think, with all the respect over him, I love him.

00:47:03.000 He's a good guy, but mother nature knows better.

00:47:09.000 And I know mother nature.

00:47:11.000 So I saw he needs to get back to this breathing.

00:47:16.000 Get back to making it.

00:47:18.000 Alkaline therein, and keeping it on until the conditioning, the old patterns go away.

00:47:23.000 So you think he got tired?

00:47:25.000 What do you think happened there?

00:47:26.000 Yes.

00:47:27.000 But what about him getting hit?

00:47:28.000 Because he got hit.

00:47:29.000 I mean, he went for anything.

00:47:32.000 You are not able to receive blows as good.

00:47:39.000 A chemistry which is low in pH level, if you are acidic, then you are less able to receive.

00:47:48.000 But Stipe Miocic, the UFC heavyweight champion, is 250 pounds of meat.

00:47:52.000 He's a scary dude.

00:47:54.000 And he hits very hard.

00:47:55.000 He's very accurate.

00:47:56.000 And there's not a whole lot of people that he punches in the face that don't get knocked out.

00:47:59.000 And the way he was hitting Alistair, I have a hard time believing that anything would have saved him.

00:48:04.000 Whether it's breathing or anything.

00:48:05.000 He was getting...

00:48:06.000 Cracked by one of the best fighters in the world.

00:48:10.000 Yes, of course.

00:48:11.000 That's good.

00:48:12.000 But I'm not into increasing the performance of any sportsman.

00:48:17.000 I do that at the side.

00:48:18.000 But I want to draw the attention for people who are suffering in the world.

00:48:23.000 No, I understand that.

00:48:24.000 That's where I am.

00:48:25.000 I'm talking about this moment in specific.

00:48:28.000 Why did you think that his lack of breathing or whatever had an effect on it?

00:48:33.000 Did you feel like he got tired too quickly?

00:48:36.000 Did you notice him diminishing, his energy levels dropping?

00:48:39.000 What did you see that made you believe that he was not doing the breathing properly?

00:48:45.000 It's not only of that day.

00:48:47.000 It's a whole process.

00:48:49.000 So if you are at a top like that, At the most of the fighting levels of this world.

00:48:59.000 Then you gotta work your body.

00:49:01.000 You gotta condition your body.

00:49:03.000 And that you do with the right breathing exercises, along with the fighting and the conditioning and the muscle training and all.

00:49:11.000 And if it is not there, then you can have the muscles of the world, but very soon you will be exhausted.

00:49:18.000 Now, when you work with a guy like Alistair, with all due respect to him and to you, He's been knocked out four times in the UFC alone.

00:49:27.000 And he's been knocked out many times outside of the UFC. Do you have any concern about the amount of damage that he's taking?

00:49:35.000 And do you think that in any way this kind of training and the breathing method could in some way help mitigate some of that damage he's taking?

00:49:45.000 Absolutely, yes.

00:49:46.000 Yes.

00:49:47.000 And I will see about him.

00:49:50.000 He will come back.

00:49:52.000 We'll get a very good lesson of Mother Nature.

00:49:57.000 You cannot speculate about Mother Nature.

00:50:02.000 You just got to perform the right way.

00:50:04.000 What do you mean by that?

00:50:05.000 24 hours getting up Kilimanjaro.

00:50:08.000 That means with his weight getting up there, that means breathing, really breathing, really getting into it and using your mind and focus totally.

00:50:20.000 And not thinking that you are able to do it, but doing it.

00:50:25.000 One thing that does happen to fighters, though, and it happens inevitably in a fighter's career if they've taken a lot of fights where there were real wars, is they lose their ability to take a punch.

00:50:35.000 It's a physiological response the brain has to the amount of punishment that you've been taking, and it knows the punishment's coming and it shuts off prematurely.

00:50:43.000 Shuts off much quicker than it did when you were younger.

00:50:46.000 And in the fight game, they call it getting chinny, or his chin is gone, you know, where you take a shot and you can see that you just can't take it anymore.

00:50:54.000 And doctors take that almost universally as a sign that you should probably start thinking about hanging it up.

00:51:03.000 Do you see that at all in him?

00:51:05.000 Are you concerned about that at all?

00:51:07.000 I will see that in January.

00:51:12.000 So you'll see it once you take him?

00:51:14.000 Yes.

00:51:14.000 But it doesn't have anything to do with physical condition.

00:51:16.000 It has more to do with punishment.

00:51:19.000 It has more to do with getting hit.

00:51:22.000 Okay.

00:51:23.000 I'm not so much into fighting and all this.

00:51:26.000 It's all information.

00:51:28.000 I just know how the nature works.

00:51:30.000 And I will test him.

00:51:32.000 I will see it.

00:51:33.000 I will observe and get my objective.

00:51:36.000 I will try to help him.

00:51:38.000 And I get my objective opinion therein.

00:51:42.000 And that's what I'm going to do.

00:51:44.000 I'm going to take, by the way, also high performance extreme athletes as well up on the mountain.

00:51:51.000 But also people with conditions.

00:51:54.000 And that's actually even more interesting.

00:51:56.000 Like what kind of conditions?

00:51:57.000 Like Crohn's disease and rheumatoid arthritis, asthma.

00:52:02.000 And they will make it in 24 hours as well.

00:52:05.000 Just because of this breathing.

00:52:07.000 So people with rheumatoid arthritis, you can take them up Mount Kilimanjaro?

00:52:11.000 I already did.

00:52:12.000 I already did, yes.

00:52:14.000 And they do all this program all the time, and they have zero inflammatory markers left in the body.

00:52:20.000 So they control their condition, arthritis, Crohn's disease, autoimmune diseases.

00:52:28.000 Completely.

00:52:28.000 And how severe is their arthritis?

00:52:31.000 Because people that are like really crippled and they can't walk very well, you've done that with them? 1.00

00:52:36.000 Or is it up to a certain level?

00:52:39.000 I mean, if you cannot walk anymore, what are you doing on the Kilimanjaro?

00:52:44.000 Right.

00:52:44.000 But what if you can barely walk?

00:52:46.000 Or what if you can walk but walk slowly?

00:52:48.000 Or what if you walk but you walk in pain?

00:52:50.000 Yes.

00:52:51.000 I'm into scientific research because I want to help humanity, Darren.

00:52:55.000 And I know we are able to tap into these systems and begin to heal first before we go into, say, feats like that.

00:53:04.000 So you work with these people that have arthritis or Crohn's disease.

00:53:08.000 Yes, right now.

00:53:09.000 Strengthen their immune system first.

00:53:11.000 Scientific research, yes.

00:53:12.000 Lower their inflammation first.

00:53:14.000 Yes.

00:53:14.000 And how much time do you spend with them before you take them to something like extreme environment like Kilimanjaro?

00:53:20.000 I got now my instructors everywhere.

00:53:23.000 So, first I teach them in a session.

00:53:26.000 How many instructors do you have?

00:53:28.000 Now, how many?

00:53:29.000 Is it 200?

00:53:31.000 200!

00:53:32.000 Wow, all over the world?

00:53:33.000 Yeah, mostly in the Netherlands.

00:53:36.000 No, but now America is beginning to do the basic course, advanced module, and then we have the instructors' week, and it goes up to bachelor level.

00:53:48.000 The books are in the university.

00:53:49.000 It's real, legit all, and scientifically endorsed.

00:53:53.000 And there it is.

00:53:54.000 It works.

00:53:55.000 And it works for those people.

00:53:58.000 And we still got to find out.

00:54:00.000 Tomorrow, for example, I got a scientific sort of lecture together with Professor Huberman from Stanford University in front of IDEO. In IDEO, there comes a guy who is the Google healthcare hat of it all.

00:54:19.000 And he was the former man in charge of the healthcare in America, in US. I mean, big people.

00:54:26.000 And it's not for nothing.

00:54:29.000 They see it works.

00:54:30.000 It doesn't work only for, say, people with arthritis, but also with depression.

00:54:36.000 Even healthy people.

00:54:38.000 They'll feel better.

00:54:39.000 Yes.

00:54:40.000 Yes.

00:54:40.000 Preventative.

00:54:42.000 Increasing performance.

00:54:44.000 Just increasing quality of life.

00:54:44.000 Yes, sir.

00:54:45.000 Yes, sir.

00:54:46.000 And that is only because of a simple principle out of nature.

00:54:50.000 Go back to mother nature inside.

00:54:52.000 Go back into the depth of your own physiology and know that it is there.

00:54:57.000 You are able to awaken that and get it into your control, preventing you from disease, from depression, or becoming happy.

00:55:06.000 So you're essentially, in some ways, tapping into the same force that creates the placebo effect.

00:55:12.000 Because there's an effect when your mind thinks that it has a drug that's going to heal it, even if it's a sugar pill.

00:55:18.000 You see a visible improvement on many people because of that belief.

00:55:22.000 So through your belief system, plus the oxygen, plus the deep breathing exercise and the increasing blood flow to the brain, it has all these positive benefits.

00:55:30.000 And then the cold trains, gradual cold exposure trains the transportation system.

00:55:36.000 75,000 miles of capillaries, arteries and veins within us.

00:55:42.000 They transport oxygen.

00:55:44.000 They are in primitive muscles and reflexes.

00:55:48.000 And when they are stimulated by cold showers, just cold showers, then the heart rate is going down.

00:55:57.000 And the transportation of oxygen suddenly is a lot better, and it gets to the immune cells.

00:56:03.000 Logically, the immune cells are more alert, better fed, and they recognize intruders who should not be there, and they kill them.

00:56:14.000 It's like cell death.

00:56:16.000 And they put a specific hormone molecule on the cell membrane, and it's gone.

00:56:22.000 Now, how long has it been since the first podcast we did?

00:56:25.000 Was it two years?

00:56:26.000 A year and a half or something like that?

00:56:29.000 Jamie will tell us.

00:56:30.000 A year and a half.

00:56:31.000 Jamie will tell us.

00:56:34.000 October 2015. October 21st.

00:56:36.000 There you go.

00:56:37.000 Basically a year.

00:56:38.000 One year.

00:56:38.000 Yes.

00:56:39.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:40.000 So what has happened in a year?

00:56:43.000 What new breakthroughs or what new evidence do you have in that year?

00:56:49.000 The evidence is that people are beginning to grasp the gravity of what I found.

00:56:56.000 Because two and a half years ago, we had this published in one of the best papers of the world, the PLUS papers.

00:57:04.000 The what paper?

00:57:06.000 Proceedings of National Academy of Sciences, which is a highly reputed scientific magazine.

00:57:14.000 It's like Nature.

00:57:16.000 And if you get in there, then it's really solid.

00:57:21.000 So they took it up into the books.

00:57:25.000 The university books.

00:57:27.000 Full chapter.

00:57:28.000 And that's not for nothing.

00:57:31.000 And that's what the new information, the new physicians and biologists need to digest as being science.

00:57:39.000 So it is science.

00:57:40.000 And it's two and a half years ago that we proved the autonomic nervous system, up till then, never been proven in scientific history to be influenced by humans.

00:57:52.000 Now, not a little bit to be influenced, being able to be influenced, big time, people enabling within a quarter of an hour to tap into the specific immune system, which normally takes five to seven days.

00:58:07.000 So, that's a big finding.

00:58:09.000 I thought, wow, now the world is going to turn the other way.

00:58:14.000 Now people are going to see we are able to do so much more with what we got already.

00:58:21.000 They are going to receive 10 Nobel Prizes.

00:58:24.000 You know, something like that.

00:58:26.000 Because it is something like that.

00:58:29.000 But...

00:58:30.000 It takes time.

00:58:31.000 It takes time.

00:58:32.000 So since last year, I see more and more and more people getting to this.

00:58:38.000 And that's nice.

00:58:39.000 But I want scientific validation more.

00:58:44.000 Because apparently they do not really grasp, within the scientific community, the gravity of what we found.

00:58:52.000 It's historical.

00:58:54.000 It's not mine, it's of mother nature.

00:58:56.000 But don't you think it takes time for people and their opinions to shift when it comes to things along these lines?

00:59:03.000 Apparently that's the psychology of the people and I'm finding this out.

00:59:09.000 I got in the beginning very frustrated.

00:59:12.000 Now I begin to understand this is the way it all comes top down and it takes some time.

00:59:18.000 When Galileo found out that we are not the center of the universe, but it is the sun and we are turning around, he was first almost banned from the church and almost sent us to death as a heretic. 0.99

00:59:35.000 Things like that, you know?

00:59:36.000 It was just a truthful new way of thinking.

00:59:40.000 Right.

00:59:40.000 Well, you're not experiencing that kind of resistance, right?

00:59:44.000 Are you experiencing any resistance?

00:59:46.000 No, no, no, no.

00:59:46.000 Not really.

00:59:47.000 I mean, you seem universally praised.

00:59:49.000 Yes, yes, yes.

00:59:49.000 It's just a matter of acceptance, meaning people actually practicing it.

00:59:54.000 That's the issue.

00:59:55.000 I think the consequences, the positive consequences of practicing this...

01:00:01.000 Are enormous for every person in the world and very accessible, very effective, very fast.

01:00:07.000 I use your method before I go on stage.

01:00:09.000 Really?

01:00:10.000 Yes.

01:00:10.000 I started doing it.

01:00:11.000 I started doing it after our podcast together.

01:00:13.000 I take these big, giant, deep breaths and I let some out and big, giant, deep breaths and I let some out and I do it for several minutes before my shows and I feel like I'm high.

01:00:21.000 Like, I'm just filled with everything.

01:00:24.000 Like, whoa!

01:00:24.000 I just feel crazy pumped up.

01:00:26.000 Good, good, good.

01:00:28.000 That enables you to get direct access, better access to your adrenaline, the hormonal system.

01:00:37.000 It gives me, I mean, that breathing in like that, it gives me energy.

01:00:41.000 It gives me, it elevates me.

01:00:43.000 I feel like it elevates my energy levels.

01:00:45.000 Thanks for taking it on.

01:00:47.000 Thanks for having me last year, this year, and I'm into ongoing research right now with the German universities.

01:00:55.000 What do you got going on there?

01:00:55.000 What's happening?

01:00:58.000 We found out, first time in scientific history now, and not me, the university, doing this, doing this, say, I was worried that it got on the machinery.

01:01:17.000 For the first time in scientific history, they found out that 100% saturation or oxygen in the blood It's not really 100%.

01:01:29.000 Right, but what?

01:01:30.000 I don't understand that.

01:01:31.000 We get a lot more.

01:01:32.000 There's nothing more than 100%, right?

01:01:34.000 But that's an assumption.

01:01:37.000 So they had a level that they thought was 100%.

01:01:39.000 That is.

01:01:40.000 And they said, well, nobody has ever reached a higher level than this, so this must be what 100% saturation looks like.

01:01:46.000 Exactly.

01:01:47.000 So it's not that you got more than 100% saturation, it's you achieved higher levels of saturation than they thought possible.

01:01:53.000 Is that a better way of describing it?

01:01:54.000 Yes, exactly.

01:01:55.000 And they did it with a laser on the chest, and then you were able to measure the mitochondrial oxygen tension.

01:02:07.000 Mitochondria, electrical factory, little factories in the cell.

01:02:12.000 The engines of the cell.

01:02:13.000 The engines of the cell.

01:02:14.000 They are able to receive more oxygen.

01:02:19.000 And that's very interesting.

01:02:21.000 And that's a great finding.

01:02:23.000 I mean, more than 100% first time in the history.

01:02:26.000 That's a great finding, I think.

01:02:28.000 And it shows that we are able to have more oxygen inside.

01:02:34.000 Suddenly, we are able to get into the cell, influence the energy production, the ATP. Those are molecules.

01:02:44.000 And if it is anaerobic, then it's like two molecules able to produce.

01:02:52.000 When it becomes aerobic, then it's up to 38 molecules that it can produce.

01:02:59.000 That is energy.

01:03:00.000 And we are able to produce more oxygen.

01:03:03.000 What happens?

01:03:05.000 What happens with a cell that is deprived for 48 hours of 35% less oxygen?

01:03:15.000 It becomes cancerous.

01:03:17.000 Really?

01:03:18.000 Yes, sir.

01:03:19.000 And as simple as that.

01:03:21.000 Have you ever worked with cancer patients?

01:03:23.000 I want to now with the universities, but it's very, you know, a very difficult, complicated matter, and everybody thinks it's not able to be questioned or researched.

01:03:38.000 Well, it's also imperative that these people get medication because their life's on the line, they could die, they don't want to take a chance.

01:03:44.000 $200,000 a year.

01:03:45.000 Those are good clients.

01:03:47.000 What's $200,000?

01:03:48.000 Oh, the cancer patients.

01:03:50.000 Yes, sir.

01:03:50.000 Right.

01:03:51.000 So you think that there's an issue where they don't want to lose that money?

01:03:55.000 What do you think?

01:03:56.000 Well, maybe, but don't you think there's some patients out there who have autonomous control?

01:04:02.000 I got one guy who just gave me a book.

01:04:05.000 Big book.

01:04:07.000 What is his name?

01:04:08.000 I just gave the book to the professor, and he cured from terminal cancer.

01:04:14.000 I met him in 2007. He had stage 4 cancer.

01:04:19.000 What kind of cancer?

01:04:20.000 Skin cancer.

01:04:22.000 Which deteriorates all the skin and then you're gone.

01:04:26.000 You're not able to function and it's over.

01:04:29.000 And he was in stage 4, so almost a terminal.

01:04:33.000 Right.

01:04:33.000 And I met him in 2007 then.

01:04:37.000 And I told him, listen, what the science is telling you...

01:04:42.000 That is not really what really is.

01:04:47.000 It is only what has been found up till now.

01:04:50.000 So I found that the autonomic nervous system, for example, can be influenced.

01:04:56.000 The endocrine system, the immune system.

01:04:58.000 What else and what more?

01:05:01.000 Don't yield.

01:05:03.000 Don't yield.

01:05:04.000 Get on.

01:05:05.000 And positive thinking, these positive charges, that's one.

01:05:10.000 But breathing.

01:05:11.000 And now it appears to be that 48 hours, 35% less of oxygen in a cell makes a cell cancerous.

01:05:22.000 So, I told you just now that the molecules, we can influence the engines of the cell and make much more molecules by implementing, just by breathing good.

01:05:40.000 Breathing and believing.

01:05:41.000 Do you think that it would benefit people that are already under cancer treatment?

01:05:46.000 Like if they're already taking chemotherapy or radiation?

01:05:49.000 You know, the chemo actually works better if you do the breathing techniques.

01:05:53.000 Why is that?

01:05:54.000 It goes more specifically into that area, boom.

01:05:59.000 But chemo is essentially poison, right?

01:06:01.000 Yes, it is.

01:06:03.000 If I'm going to drink here, by the way, another little beer would not be bad.

01:06:10.000 Yeah, my son is saying, no, no, don't do that.

01:06:14.000 Wait, wait.

01:06:15.000 I got some control.

01:06:17.000 You made him. 1.00

01:06:18.000 Tell him to fuck off. 1.00

01:06:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:06:21.000 If I could do that.

01:06:23.000 Cheers.

01:06:24.000 Sometimes.

01:06:25.000 The story goes like this with my son.

01:06:28.000 I was in Africa.

01:06:30.000 And on the Kilimanjaro, then after I did a successful attempt in 28 hours and in shorts and everything, got to tell something about Scott Carnitune, an investigative journalist who came to get me...

01:06:48.000 Disguised as a guru and with lies and everything.

01:06:52.000 He disguised?

01:06:54.000 He's an investigative journalist, an anthropologist, and he came to Poland to see who I am for real.

01:07:01.000 He is into finding out how the organ trafficking goes and these gurus who make people do things.

01:07:09.000 He thought you were one of those?

01:07:10.000 Yes, yes.

01:07:11.000 Why do you think that?

01:07:13.000 Because it was paid to get to me.

01:07:17.000 Somebody paid him?

01:07:18.000 Yes.

01:07:19.000 Who paid him?

01:07:21.000 His editor.

01:07:23.000 The guy who's publishing his books.

01:07:26.000 And he made a new book lately. 0.99

01:07:28.000 But he came to Poland and two days later he was doing the same shit I'm doing. 0.99

01:07:37.000 On the outside, though, people do see someone like you that makes all these crazy claims and talks about love and breathing and go, oh, this guy's trying to fuck everybody's wives and make a lot of money. 1.00

01:07:49.000 No, no, no. 1.00

01:07:49.000 Just a very... 1.00

01:07:50.000 I know.

01:07:52.000 I know, but that's you.

01:07:53.000 I know you're legitimate.

01:07:54.000 I know you are.

01:07:55.000 But there's a lot of people, like you can understand why he would think that a lot of people who make these grand claims turn out to be, you know, there's a lot of people that can claim miracle claims and they're usually crazy, right?

01:08:06.000 Yes, yes, yes.

01:08:08.000 So I went with this investigative journalist. 1.00

01:08:11.000 He became a fool adept. 0.99

01:08:13.000 Did he give up the ghost? 1.00

01:08:15.000 Did he tell you what he was doing?

01:08:16.000 Yeah, yeah, totally, totally.

01:08:18.000 It took two days to disappear his distance and all.

01:08:23.000 And then he was also in his shorts, on barefoot, in the snow.

01:08:27.000 That's beautiful.

01:08:29.000 What is that?

01:08:30.000 What are you doing there?

01:08:30.000 Karate?

01:08:31.000 Just movement?

01:08:33.000 I can teach you.

01:08:34.000 You can teach me?

01:08:36.000 Maybe not.

01:08:37.000 Maybe you can teach me too.

01:08:38.000 What do you want to teach me?

01:08:39.000 I think you can teach me some techniques.

01:08:42.000 But I can teach you for sure also some techniques.

01:08:45.000 Okay.

01:08:46.000 Like standing for two hours barefoot in the snow in your shorts and in the horse stance.

01:08:53.000 Yeah, you're not going to teach me that.

01:08:55.000 No?

01:08:55.000 No, I'm not doing that.

01:08:57.000 It could be.

01:08:58.000 I believe it can be done.

01:08:59.000 Yeah.

01:08:59.000 Look, if I had to do it, I feel like I could do it if I had to do it.

01:09:03.000 Yes.

01:09:03.000 Would I do it?

01:09:05.000 I'm busy.

01:09:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:09:07.000 I ain't got no time to stand in my underwear for two days.

01:09:09.000 Yeah, man.

01:09:10.000 Your underwear.

01:09:12.000 Wax on, wax off.

01:09:14.000 You're laughing stuck.

01:09:16.000 Many people do this.

01:09:18.000 And they suddenly see that they are capable of doing so much more because they begin to learn to control the acidity, that what becomes acidic in their bodies.

01:09:28.000 So the performance.

01:09:30.000 And for that, I do that.

01:09:32.000 So, he did it and together with me last January was also on Kilimanjaro.

01:09:38.000 Do you stay friends with this guy now?

01:09:39.000 Yes, yes.

01:09:40.000 He wrote a book.

01:09:42.000 That's what doesn't kill you, it says.

01:09:45.000 It will come out next month or something.

01:09:47.000 And it is about you?

01:09:49.000 It's mostly about what I do.

01:09:51.000 The method?

01:09:52.000 Yes.

01:09:53.000 And that works.

01:09:55.000 He's a scientist and he is an anthropologist.

01:09:58.000 But he is always trying out the stuff he is writing about.

01:10:03.000 So he got into this and it's a very nice book.

01:10:07.000 He's got a teaser on.

01:10:08.000 It's very nice.

01:10:10.000 But that is that.

01:10:11.000 I'd love to have him on.

01:10:12.000 Hey, Scott Carney.

01:10:14.000 Scott Carney.

01:10:15.000 Okay.

01:10:16.000 Well, let me know.

01:10:17.000 We'll talk after the show.

01:10:18.000 Let me know when the book's going to come out.

01:10:19.000 Yes.

01:10:20.000 And I'll try to help you promote it.

01:10:21.000 There is a teaser, and you see it all.

01:10:23.000 Okay.

01:10:23.000 Awesome.

01:10:24.000 I think it's beautiful.

01:10:26.000 And it's very good for humans, for anybody to see.

01:10:32.000 Mm-hmm.

01:10:33.000 And he lost weight very fast and he could do now 80 push-ups without breathing.

01:10:42.000 80 push-ups without breathing?

01:10:44.000 He was an intellectualist.

01:10:46.000 Yes.

01:10:46.000 He can hold his breath and do 80 push-ups.

01:10:48.000 Yes, sir.

01:10:49.000 I find that very hard to believe.

01:10:51.000 With no air in the lungs, by the way.

01:10:53.000 No what?

01:10:54.000 No air in the lungs.

01:10:55.000 No air.

01:10:56.000 So he goes down.

01:10:58.000 He goes down, no air in the lung, blows out of the air, and then does eight zero push-ups in a row.

01:11:04.000 Yes, sir. 1.00

01:11:04.000 I call bullshit. 1.00

01:11:05.000 Yeah, and I do it also with... 0.99

01:11:07.000 I really do call bullshit. 0.98

01:11:09.000 What does this guy look like? 0.99

01:11:10.000 I don't know.

01:11:11.000 Maybe as wide as all this. 0.99

01:11:13.000 You gotta be a fucking savage just to be able to do 80 push-ups, period. 0.99

01:11:15.000 It's control of oxygen. 1.00

01:11:17.000 You can do one push-up because you are alkaline.

01:11:20.000 But if you are able to maintain the alkalinity in the body, There you go.

01:11:26.000 Is there a video of this guy doing 80 push-ups with no oxygen in his lungs?

01:11:31.000 I believe him.

01:11:32.000 I saw him do at least 50 in my time.

01:11:36.000 But he went off and I see too many people.

01:11:40.000 But I see also people with arthritis who cannot do any push-up.

01:11:46.000 And I make them do 40 push-ups in one day. 0.99

01:11:51.000 Why?

01:11:52.000 Because we control the inflammatory markers in the blood, suppressing them, and suddenly they are able, and with the extra oxygen, making it alkaline, the muscle tissue keeps on throwing these acetylcholinus,

01:12:07.000 the neurotransmitter, performance neurotransmitter, and they surprise themselves, astonish themselves.

01:12:15.000 That just seems like a lot of push-ups to do with no air in your lungs.

01:12:18.000 What does it say here?

01:12:20.000 I could do 80 push-ups on a single breath, and I lost 7 pounds of belly fat in 70 days. 1.00

01:12:25.000 Motherfucker, there you see it. 1.00

01:12:26.000 You test him! 1.00

01:12:27.000 You need to see it.

01:12:28.000 I'm not an athlete, I'm not exceptional. 1.00

01:12:30.000 Listen, bitch, if you could do 80 push-ups in a single breath, that's fucking exceptional. 1.00

01:12:33.000 I want to know what he's calling a push-up. 1.00

01:12:35.000 If he's one of these motherfuckers... 1.00

01:12:37.000 No, no, no, no, no. 1.00

01:12:39.000 Yeah.

01:12:40.000 Let him...

01:12:41.000 I want to see this.

01:12:43.000 I want to see... 1.00

01:12:47.000 Then I call bullshit. 0.99

01:12:48.000 Okay. 0.99

01:12:49.000 Touch your chin.

01:12:50.000 Touch your chin.

01:12:52.000 Go back up.

01:12:53.000 All the way up.

01:12:53.000 Lock it out.

01:12:54.000 Yeah, but then it takes about at least two minutes to do that.

01:13:00.000 Then you ask him to breath while you're exercising.

01:13:04.000 At least, right?

01:13:05.000 I think I can do that.

01:13:06.000 I can do that.

01:13:07.000 You can do that right now?

01:13:08.000 Yeah.

01:13:08.000 You can do 80 push-ups on a single breath?

01:13:10.000 If I would, no.

01:13:12.000 You think so?

01:13:14.000 I don't know.

01:13:15.000 Let's try it.

01:13:15.000 Why don't you try it?

01:13:17.000 You two.

01:13:18.000 Me two.

01:13:18.000 I know I can't do it.

01:13:20.000 I can't do 80 push-ups on a single breath.

01:13:22.000 I'll tell you right now, I can't do it.

01:13:24.000 We don't need to prove this now.

01:13:26.000 Well, that's a good time.

01:13:28.000 Now's a good time.

01:13:28.000 We're doing a podcast.

01:13:30.000 We will.

01:13:31.000 We will.

01:13:32.000 Another thing, actually, I wanted to come back.

01:13:35.000 I think you could probably do it.

01:13:37.000 I'm telling a story about my son.

01:13:39.000 Oh, that's right.

01:13:40.000 This was the original, you know, the stuff.

01:13:42.000 So the guy was trying to investigate you, he thought you were a fake guru, found out you're legit.

01:13:47.000 And we did in 28 hours the Kilimanjaro last January in short.

01:13:51.000 And he did it too.

01:13:53.000 So very nice and all done.

01:13:56.000 But then later when we did it and accomplished, I mean, the biggest feat was the 76-year-old man Doing the Kilimanjaro in 44 hours.

01:14:08.000 It's unheard of.

01:14:10.000 And he did it anyway.

01:14:11.000 And with them, we have 26 other people.

01:14:14.000 Men, women, old, young.

01:14:16.000 And we did it.

01:14:19.000 It's taken him 44 hours to do this climb?

01:14:22.000 And how far is he climbing?

01:14:24.000 Up till the top.

01:14:25.000 Yeah, but I mean, how many miles is it?

01:14:28.000 How many feet of elevation?

01:14:29.000 It's 37 miles in 44 hours.

01:14:32.000 That's a lot of going up.

01:14:34.000 And extreme altitude, right?

01:14:36.000 Yes.

01:14:37.000 Why don't you Google, what's the world record push-ups for a single breath?

01:14:42.000 Turns out it's 60. Hey!

01:14:44.000 If it is 60, then we got a new world record coming up!

01:14:50.000 So...

01:14:51.000 You were saying, your son.

01:14:54.000 Yes.

01:14:55.000 Right.

01:14:55.000 So afterwards, when we did it, and accomplished it last January, I went to these natural reserves.

01:15:03.000 And, you know, you got the Serengeti, Arusha, Nogoro crater with the lions and everything.

01:15:12.000 I do things with the Maasai as well.

01:15:15.000 Can I ask you this?

01:15:15.000 Did you take malaria medication when you went there?

01:15:18.000 No, no.

01:15:19.000 Were you there when mosquitoes were around?

01:15:21.000 Yeah, so they're always around.

01:15:23.000 You didn't worry about malaria?

01:15:24.000 No, they cause also inflammation.

01:15:27.000 So, I think I'm able to deal with that.

01:15:30.000 So, I take the chance.

01:15:31.000 You're able to deal with malaria?

01:15:33.000 Absolutely.

01:15:34.000 Wow.

01:15:34.000 Yeah, man.

01:15:36.000 I'm open for any research and investigation.

01:15:39.000 I believe in Mother Nature.

01:15:42.000 And Mother Nature came to me and I got so much field work done.

01:15:46.000 I know all the tricks of Mother Nature.

01:15:49.000 And what it does in the body.

01:15:51.000 And we forgot about it because we never expose ourselves in mother nature anymore.

01:15:56.000 We always take the choice of comfort.

01:16:01.000 But we actually build to be stimulated by wind, cold, heat, pressure differences, and all kinds of things.

01:16:10.000 And that makes us strong, makes our immune system strong.

01:16:13.000 And then bacteria, viruses, and bacteria suddenly have a lot less chance to get in and do their damage.

01:16:21.000 And it's a fact.

01:16:23.000 It's not me.

01:16:24.000 It's mother nature within us.

01:16:25.000 And that control, we lost the connection.

01:16:29.000 And it's very important to bring that.

01:16:32.000 And I think, yes, malaria, yes.

01:16:35.000 We can now.

01:16:36.000 Wow.

01:16:36.000 Yeah.

01:16:37.000 Not only.

01:16:38.000 It's also in the books now.

01:16:42.000 Hey, possibly, university books.

01:16:45.000 Possibly hope for people with HIV. I have a friend, my friend Justin Wren.

01:16:49.000 He does a lot of work with the Pygmies. 1.00

01:16:52.000 He works with Water 4, and he builds wells in the Congo.

01:16:55.000 And he's had malaria three times.

01:16:58.000 And when he gets it, it's pretty bad.

01:17:00.000 And not only does he get it, but now, because he's had it so many times, he gets it if he gets sick.

01:17:05.000 So when he's in America, if he catches the flu or something like that, he also gets malaria.

01:17:10.000 It's happened to me before.

01:17:12.000 Deregulation of the immune system.

01:17:14.000 You think you could help him?

01:17:15.000 Yes, sir.

01:17:16.000 I need to connect you to.

01:17:18.000 Absolutely.

01:17:19.000 Absolutely.

01:17:19.000 Okay.

01:17:20.000 Before you leave, I'm going to get you his information.

01:17:24.000 I'm going to swap information with you guys.

01:17:27.000 I think that would be amazing if you could actually help him.

01:17:29.000 Because he's...

01:17:31.000 He's amazing.

01:17:32.000 He's done amazing, amazing stuff.

01:17:34.000 I mean that guy spends months at a time.

01:17:36.000 Yeah, I can't imagine.

01:17:37.000 He's a pioneer.

01:17:39.000 Oh man.

01:17:40.000 He's going past the fear like we began off.

01:17:43.000 Those are the people.

01:17:44.000 Those are men.

01:17:45.000 Looking for more.

01:17:47.000 To develop whatever we go for as human mankind.

01:17:51.000 Yeah.

01:17:52.000 And to finally get into some love.

01:17:54.000 Like sharing and caring.

01:17:57.000 Tribal.

01:17:58.000 So what happened with your son?

01:18:00.000 Yes.

01:18:00.000 So I went to this reserve, big Serengeti Arusha Nogorongoro, and there you got these big elephants.

01:18:08.000 Loxodonto, Loxodonto Africana, you know, big savannah elephants.

01:18:13.000 They can go up to seven tons of meat.

01:18:17.000 So they, I went to a lot of these big elephants. 0.99

01:18:24.000 And I lifted up their tails in the back to see how big their asshole is. 1.00

01:18:30.000 Wow! 1.00

01:18:32.000 I saw a lot of big assholes, but my son is still the champ. 1.00

01:18:37.000 I made the phone kill to him. 1.00

01:18:39.000 I made the Franco. 0.98

01:18:41.000 It's all about fun because I love him so much.

01:18:44.000 That's all the big joke.

01:18:44.000 But he is also very severe with me.

01:18:49.000 He's sitting there very tranquil.

01:18:51.000 But he can be like a wolf.

01:18:53.000 Eat your heart out.

01:18:56.000 Listen, I asked him to not talk during the show, and now you're egging him on.

01:19:00.000 You're forcing him to defend himself.

01:19:01.000 That's totally unfair.

01:19:04.000 He makes my business, you know, my mission, he makes it able to happen in this world.

01:19:13.000 Because I'm not of this world.

01:19:15.000 I'm too much of nature.

01:19:16.000 I'm so naive, but he is outlining everything with websites, effectivity to people.

01:19:23.000 You're not of this world? 0.99

01:19:25.000 I mean, you're not of the modern world, electronics, that shit. 1.00

01:19:31.000 Do you have a cell phone? 0.99

01:19:33.000 Yes, yes.

01:19:35.000 I lose them a lot and things like that.

01:19:40.000 You know what happened with the cell phones in Finland, in Lapland or Alaska, where they live in distance with each other?

01:19:50.000 Telepathy is there.

01:19:52.000 You mean where there's no cell phones?

01:19:54.000 Yeah, where there is no cell phones.

01:19:56.000 But since the telephone came and introduced itself over there, the people lost this ability.

01:20:02.000 What do you mean?

01:20:04.000 They knew every time when their neighbor is coming.

01:20:08.000 They're already setting things up without seeing it with the eye.

01:20:12.000 And that's common.

01:20:15.000 What is that?

01:20:16.000 These cell phones came and they take it over.

01:20:19.000 And we have to learn that we all have these, not only physiological abilities, deeper, but also in the mind.

01:20:28.000 Beautiful things.

01:20:30.000 And we are having it, us taken over by technical devices and all that.

01:20:37.000 But...

01:20:38.000 Where is the contact with our conscious contact, with our depth?

01:20:42.000 Where is it?

01:20:44.000 I'm going for that.

01:20:45.000 But is there any evidence these people were really telepathic?

01:20:50.000 No, it's anecdotal, of course. 1.00

01:20:53.000 Of course, but people are full of shit. 1.00

01:20:55.000 They're out there living by themselves, just doing weird shit to themselves, out there screaming in the night, no one answers, alone, wolves howl. 1.00

01:21:04.000 That's true, too. 0.96

01:21:06.000 Yeah, you gotta take that into account. 1.00

01:21:08.000 People are full of shit. 1.00

01:21:09.000 There was an old television show, On the Road. 1.00

01:21:13.000 Do you remember On the Road with Charles Kuralt?

01:21:15.000 Is that who it was?

01:21:17.000 There was a guy that used to have this television show way back in the day before the internet.

01:21:20.000 I remember he had this episode on where he was talking to this guy who was a trapper.

01:21:26.000 And he would live in the bush in Alaska.

01:21:29.000 And he would live there and not talk to a single person for months and months at a time.

01:21:35.000 And what he would say is that after a while, when he was out there by himself, he would develop this very bizarre feeling of telepathy with animals, and that he could read animals' minds.

01:21:50.000 He could almost predict their behavior and movements, and he was getting signals from them.

01:22:06.000 Amazing.

01:22:09.000 Interesting. 1.00

01:22:13.000 Could be a fucking crazy dude out there, you know, killing muskrats with a giant trap. 1.00

01:22:19.000 It's anecdotal. 1.00

01:22:20.000 Yes.

01:22:21.000 That's one.

01:22:21.000 We are social mammals, mammalian behavior, like families and things like that.

01:22:26.000 But I've read that they have found one thing that they're pretty sure that people can tell.

01:22:33.000 It was Rupert Sheldrake's podcast he was talking about.

01:22:36.000 He was saying that one thing that they have studied beyond statistical probability, it shows that when people are stared at, like say if I turn my back and you either would look down at your lap or look at the back of my head,

01:22:54.000 that I could tell, or someone, maybe some people can tell, Whether or not you're looking at them more than half the time.

01:23:02.000 They were more accurate than guessing.

01:23:05.000 And it was consistent.

01:23:07.000 It was pretty consistent.

01:23:08.000 It wasn't 100% of the time, but it wasn't 50-50.

01:23:13.000 It was more like 70-30.

01:23:15.000 That was Rupert Sheldrake.

01:23:17.000 Yes.

01:23:18.000 Interesting things he tells, by the way.

01:23:20.000 He's an interesting guy.

01:23:21.000 You know, when the birds in, say, the Second World War, getting into these milk bottles with a silver top, they learn to pick through.

01:23:35.000 Mm-hmm.

01:23:36.000 And the distance between, say, England and the Netherlands, or Germany, etc., is divided by the Northern Sea.

01:23:47.000 And these birds are not able to travel to the other side.

01:23:52.000 But the same species of birds at the other side began to do the same.

01:24:02.000 Yeah, he has a term for it.

01:24:03.000 And with monkeys and morphology or something.

01:24:06.000 Morphic resonance.

01:24:07.000 Yeah, yeah, morphic resonance.

01:24:08.000 And what he believes is that when one member of the species attempts to learn something or learn something, it becomes far easier for other members of the species, even that are separated by vast distances, to learn that.

01:24:23.000 He said that occurred with rats in a very particular maze, that they would teach rats how to get through a particular maze in one part of the world, and then rats in the other part of the world navigated it much quicker.

01:24:35.000 There's some interesting stuff when it comes to that stuff.

01:24:38.000 Interesting.

01:24:39.000 It is interesting, but it's hard, because there are a lot of people called bullshit, and I don't know who's right.

01:24:44.000 And you've got to kind of go over it with a fine-toothed comb and look at everybody's...

01:24:49.000 Look at their motivations and look at whether or not they're biased, and it's very difficult to sort out.

01:24:55.000 But Rupert seems like a very thoughtful, very interesting guy.

01:24:58.000 He definitely didn't seem dishonest.

01:25:01.000 So, yeah, I'm here to say a little bit about what we did since last year.

01:25:13.000 So, the goals now are to get it into national healthcare.

01:25:18.000 Actually, in every country.

01:25:21.000 But America is a little bit a leader therein.

01:25:25.000 And I'm beginning to become quite famous.

01:25:29.000 I use it.

01:25:30.000 I use it.

01:25:31.000 I abuse it to get my goals done, my mission done, which is bringing belief, confidence, love, but now scientifically endorsed, showing that we are able to tap into all those systems and we should actually get it in school,

01:25:51.000 in primary school to begin with, And not only learn history and geography and things like that, but now learn at a very young age how to influence into this hormonal system and immune system or say happiness,

01:26:12.000 strength, health should be subjects.

01:26:16.000 I teach kids of four years old.

01:26:20.000 With arthritis, they come and they are very able to do breathing exercises, going into the cold.

01:26:28.000 Actually, children, we teach them to have coats on and therefore taking away the stimulation of the natural elements, thus decreasing the affectivity of their systems inside.

01:26:41.000 We make them sick instead of We are protecting them.

01:26:46.000 We are comforting them.

01:26:48.000 And we think that paradigm shift needs to happen.

01:26:51.000 And I'm into that.

01:26:53.000 And now it's getting together with the existing healthcare and with universities more and more.

01:27:02.000 I think we got to go back to say nature and if a mother It's able to guarantee, endorsed by scientific evidence, that we are able to tap into all these systems, guaranteeing, hey,

01:27:17.000 if you just breathe better and take a cold shower and believe, connect with your body, that you are able to tap into your health, your happiness, and your strength, then that's something that We'll bring Mother Nature back in us and the awareness there from will make this world value the nature

01:27:48.000 outside as inside.

01:27:51.000 Because we lost the connection.

01:27:53.000 And I'm now here to bring that and since last year I've progressed.

01:27:59.000 You know, things like anxiety and fear nobody knows about.

01:28:02.000 Now I do know what it is.

01:28:04.000 I know what it is biochemical and neurological.

01:28:09.000 I talk with professors.

01:28:11.000 I teach them.

01:28:12.000 They teach me their language and I teach them the method and together we get more out of it.

01:28:21.000 It's all happening.

01:28:23.000 So I'm very thankful to be here with you.

01:28:27.000 I still got a joke.

01:28:30.000 A joke?

01:28:31.000 Yes.

01:28:32.000 I wanted to say this. 0.99

01:28:33.000 Other than the big asshole joke? 0.99

01:28:35.000 Yeah, that's another one. 0.98

01:28:39.000 I'm thankful to have you here too.

01:28:41.000 I really am.

01:28:42.000 I'm very appreciative.

01:28:43.000 There's not a whole lot of people that I'll do a late night podcast with, but you...

01:28:47.000 Anytime.

01:28:48.000 Thanks.

01:28:49.000 Thanks, Joe.

01:28:50.000 Thanks.

01:28:51.000 Thanks.

01:28:51.000 That's great.

01:28:52.000 I must say, and it did me good.

01:28:55.000 My podcast with you, so many people.

01:28:58.000 I didn't know who you were. 0.99

01:29:00.000 I never give a fuck who I go to. 0.95

01:29:03.000 But when I get there and it starts, my mirror is the people who are commenting. 0.98

01:29:10.000 I never look.

01:29:11.000 Yeah, I'm never looking where I go now.

01:29:15.000 I never go with a program.

01:29:17.000 I don't know.

01:29:17.000 They never give me too much information either.

01:29:21.000 Those are my children.

01:29:23.000 They work with me.

01:29:24.000 They think, ah, daddy, let him go.

01:29:27.000 Well, I'm curious to see what the response is this time because the difference in the numbers is staggering.

01:29:32.000 Like, what was the monthly downloads last year?

01:29:37.000 Just take a guess.

01:29:39.000 It's probably like 15, 18 million.

01:29:42.000 Now it's well over 40. Plus YouTube.

01:29:47.000 Shit. 1.00

01:29:48.000 Yeah, it'll be way more. 1.00

01:29:50.000 It's more than double.

01:29:51.000 That's good, that's good, because all the world needs to know about this.

01:29:55.000 This is simple, accessible, effective, scientifically endorsed, no speculation.

01:30:00.000 It's there.

01:30:01.000 But now, still, I got this joke.

01:30:04.000 Joe, I wanted to say that.

01:30:08.000 I'm with Joe.

01:30:10.000 I know now, you said, a comedian before, so you can appreciate this.

01:30:16.000 I got a Joe!

01:30:21.000 He's big.

01:30:22.000 He's big.

01:30:23.000 He is enormous.

01:30:24.000 He is orange.

01:30:26.000 It's an orangutan.

01:30:27.000 An orange orangutan.

01:30:28.000 Yes, in the middle of San Francisco.

01:30:30.000 Oh.

01:30:31.000 San Francisco or Los Angeles.

01:30:33.000 We are here in Los Angeles.

01:30:34.000 In a big city.

01:30:35.000 Okay.

01:30:36.000 An orangutan in a big city.

01:30:38.000 You don't see orangutans in the city.

01:30:40.000 Unless you go to the zoo, right?

01:30:41.000 I don't know.

01:30:42.000 Maybe he escaped or whatever.

01:30:45.000 Or he traveled incognito with a hat on and a suit.

01:30:50.000 Big suit must have been.

01:30:52.000 But he walks over there.

01:30:53.000 And the sun is shining, and it's shining on his long orange hair. 0.99

01:30:59.000 I thought he was going to say dick. 0.99

01:31:00.000 Yeah, but wait a minute. 1.00

01:31:02.000 It still has to come.

01:31:05.000 Shush, you over there. 1.00

01:31:07.000 Yeah.

01:31:07.000 Told you not to give him beer.

01:31:08.000 He's like a gremlin.

01:31:09.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:31:10.000 He doesn't know how to control his chemistry.

01:31:14.000 He's not on audio.

01:31:15.000 Okay.

01:31:16.000 So...

01:31:19.000 He's dripping, you know, this endocrine system is dripping along his orange hairs, and it's flickering together with the sun.

01:31:28.000 It looks like, wow, it's enormous.

01:31:31.000 And the light is upon it, and he walks along the street.

01:31:41.000 Big lips.

01:31:43.000 Big cheeks, big claws, very peaceful.

01:31:48.000 He has no enemy.

01:31:49.000 He's there just by being himself.

01:31:53.000 And he sees this bar.

01:31:56.000 And in his mind pops up just this, yeah, a golden bear.

01:32:03.000 And he sees it.

01:32:04.000 But then, ah!

01:32:06.000 He's already dripping from his lips.

01:32:10.000 He's coming down.

01:32:12.000 He goes through the door.

01:32:14.000 He's got quite some difficulty to get through the door, because he's so big.

01:32:19.000 He really squeezes himself through the door.

01:32:23.000 And there he sees the stool.

01:32:26.000 He goes to the stool.

01:32:28.000 I mean, he's really big.

01:32:30.000 And the stool is only so big.

01:32:33.000 So he's into a balancing act.

01:32:37.000 Not to fall through.

01:32:38.000 So big he is.

01:32:40.000 But finally he gets there and he accomplishes this balancing act and he's there.

01:32:47.000 He's at ease.

01:32:48.000 And of course the barman.

01:32:50.000 He fled into a corner somewhere.

01:32:53.000 He's at ease.

01:32:56.000 Have a beer.

01:33:00.000 He's at ease.

01:33:02.000 He's peaceful.

01:33:02.000 He's at ease?

01:33:03.000 Yes, he's peaceful.

01:33:05.000 He talks to the bartender.

01:33:05.000 He wants a beer.

01:33:06.000 Does he have money, or is he just stealing his beer?

01:33:08.000 I don't know.

01:33:09.000 He has no pockets, but he has got money.

01:33:12.000 I don't know why he stashed it, but it's there.

01:33:15.000 Okay.

01:33:16.000 It's there, all right.

01:33:18.000 The barman.

01:33:21.000 He's very peaceful, the orangutan, so his fear is subsiding, and he comes and still, and then he gives it to him like this.

01:33:33.000 And there, he gets a bear claw around his little glass, or a golden beer, liquid, looking at him.

01:33:47.000 Like a little baby.

01:33:48.000 He's really enjoying it, man.

01:33:52.000 And then he puts it back, and he puts a $100 bill on the bar, on the tap.

01:34:01.000 He's a baller.

01:34:01.000 Yeah.

01:34:02.000 And $100.

01:34:03.000 And now, suddenly, the barman thinks, well, because he is very peaceful, he is there, he enjoyed his beer.

01:34:12.000 Hey, he's got $100.

01:34:14.000 I think I'm going to give him back a shiny coin because he doesn't know about the significance of money.

01:34:22.000 And he gives him the shiny coin and he takes the hundred dollar bill and I don't know where he puts it because he's got no pockets, but he puts it somewhere.

01:34:34.000 He looks at it and puts it somewhere.

01:34:37.000 And then he sits there, and finally the barman got his confidence so much.

01:34:43.000 He asks him, hey, what about this?

01:34:47.000 I never ever saw a orangutan in my bar.

01:34:53.000 What is it?

01:34:55.000 And the orangutan said, do you know what kind of prices you are charging?

01:35:01.000 And that's the punchline.

01:35:03.000 The thing is, this is the way we think we can mess up and tweak our inner power.

01:35:16.000 We are strong, man.

01:35:18.000 But we always think better about who we are in the depths.

01:35:25.000 And he is there for you to enjoy life and to be there, strong as Mother Nature.

01:35:31.000 In the future, I would just recommend just tightening that up a little bit.

01:35:36.000 Oh, yeah!

01:35:36.000 It's kind of a funny joke.

01:35:38.000 It's kind of funny.

01:35:39.000 I knew what was coming towards the end, but I'm a professional comedian, so I knew the joke.

01:35:45.000 Oh, you knew the joke!

01:35:47.000 Well, I knew at the end.

01:35:49.000 I don't even think I'd heard it before, but I know what you were going to say.

01:35:52.000 I always extend.

01:35:54.000 And I use it as a metaphor, because that's no joke.

01:35:58.000 That's real.

01:36:01.000 What's real?

01:36:02.000 The way we trick with our mind, we think we can trick Mother Nature inside, our deeper power, our inner power.

01:36:12.000 Okay.

01:36:13.000 I get it.

01:36:14.000 It's just it was a little shorter, probably better.

01:36:16.000 Right?

01:36:18.000 Jamie?

01:36:18.000 Yeah.

01:36:19.000 I mean, it was not a bad joke.

01:36:21.000 Nah, it did. 0.99

01:36:22.000 The big asshole joke's a little better. 0.99

01:36:24.000 I think so, too. 1.00

01:36:25.000 I watched an elephant hit a guy with his trunk.

01:36:29.000 I kind of knew that elephants' trunks were powerful.

01:36:32.000 I mean, I always knew.

01:36:33.000 But I had no idea.

01:36:34.000 Like, this guy got too close to an elephant, and the elephant was eating, and it just swatted him with its trunk, and he went flipping.

01:36:43.000 Like, head over heels, head over heels, head over heels.

01:36:46.000 It was hilarious.

01:36:48.000 He knocked that thing the way you would flip a beer ball.

01:36:51.000 Just thunk! 0.98

01:36:53.000 With its trunk.

01:36:54.000 Amazing.

01:36:56.000 The epic scale of those animals is just unbelievable.

01:37:01.000 When you see the amount of force that they can generate with their nose.

01:37:05.000 Do you see it?

01:37:06.000 Yeah, put it up.

01:37:08.000 His eyes went wide.

01:37:10.000 His head snapped back when he saw this.

01:37:12.000 Watch this.

01:37:12.000 This guy got too close.

01:37:13.000 Watch this.

01:37:14.000 He goes to touch it.

01:37:15.000 Boom! 1.00

01:37:18.000 Shit! 1.00

01:37:20.000 He's like he's still conscious. 1.00

01:37:22.000 Yeah, he didn't give a fuck. 1.00

01:37:24.000 He's like, bitch, get out of here. 1.00

01:37:25.000 He's like, you're bothering me. 1.00

01:37:27.000 I think it's a female elephant, too.

01:37:28.000 It doesn't even have tusks.

01:37:30.000 Wow.

01:37:31.000 It's a female or a juvenile.

01:37:33.000 But where we are on to right now with this...

01:37:36.000 Research?

01:37:37.000 ...with these findings out of nature...

01:37:41.000 Next time, we'll get some new breakthroughs.

01:37:44.000 Yeah?

01:37:45.000 Yeah.

01:37:46.000 We have to see each other again.

01:37:49.000 Once a year.

01:37:49.000 Let's do every October.

01:37:50.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:37:50.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:37:51.000 We didn't even plan. 1.00

01:37:52.000 Let's make a deal.

01:37:53.000 Make a deal.

01:37:53.000 October.

01:37:54.000 Let's do it.

01:37:55.000 Great.

01:37:55.000 We'll bring that guy in and have him do 80 push-ups.

01:37:57.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:37:57.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:37:58.000 Don't buy that at all.

01:37:58.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:37:59.000 I found a free diving message board, and there's some people that were asking.

01:38:03.000 It's the only thing I found on the entire internet.

01:38:05.000 Some guy claimed he did 72 after taking that Jack 3D stuff.

01:38:10.000 With one breath?

01:38:11.000 After taking a five minute breathing exercise and then no breaths and he did 72. A couple of people said they did like 40 or 50. Breathing would have helped a similar method to this, but they weren't talking about that at all.

01:38:22.000 Yeah, I have a feeling your friend might be a little full of shit. 0.99

01:38:25.000 It just doesn't As an athlete, as someone who understands the potential of the human body, you have to be extraordinary. 1.00

01:38:33.000 You have to be pretty extraordinary to do 80 push-ups on your own.

01:38:37.000 You have to be conditioned.

01:38:38.000 It's like something like just to force your muscles, depending upon how much you weigh, of course.

01:38:43.000 But if you're the average 175 pound or whatever the average man is...

01:38:48.000 Just to force yourself to do 80 push-ups, you have to be in pretty good condition to do that.

01:38:52.000 That's a lot of repetition.

01:38:55.000 You're essentially, I mean, it's not like you're bench pressing 175 pounds, but it's probably like you're bench pressing 140. Like, how much would you think it would be?

01:39:02.000 Like a push-up.

01:39:03.000 How much are you actually pushing up?

01:39:04.000 So if I weigh 200 pounds, if I'm doing a push-up, how much am I actually pushing?

01:39:09.000 Because I'm not really pushing 200 pounds because my feet are on the ground and, you know, there's some weight down there.

01:39:17.000 How much am I actually pushing?

01:39:19.000 It feels like I'm pushing about 130, 140 pounds when I do a push-up.

01:39:25.000 What is that, like 60, 70% of your body weight probably?

01:39:28.000 Yeah.

01:39:28.000 Why don't you Google?

01:39:30.000 I was going to try to Google something like that.

01:39:31.000 Yeah, Google what percentage of your body weight are you actually lifting when you do a push-up.

01:39:36.000 Interesting.

01:39:37.000 Yeah, because it's definitely not 100. Let's analyze it.

01:39:42.000 And I really began with these push-ups and now everybody is of course copying and I know what it that's all okay, but I like to I like research I like to investigate what we are really doing.

01:39:55.000 Yeah, here we go 49% okay regular push-up you lift 64% of your body weight whereas with the knee push-up you okay no need to push up so a regular push-up 64% of your body weight so for me it's a little over a hundred was a 110 something like that yeah 114 right 64 is that right 128 okay so that's pretty close 64%.

01:40:21.000 So I was pretty close.

01:40:22.000 I was thinking it was like 130, 140. Just double the 64. Yeah.

01:40:26.000 Okay.

01:40:26.000 Oh, that makes sense.

01:40:28.000 So, yeah.

01:40:29.000 So that's what I thought.

01:40:30.000 I can't do 80 push-ups.

01:40:31.000 I can't do 80 push-ups as breathing.

01:40:34.000 At least I don't think I can.

01:40:35.000 I don't do push-ups that much.

01:40:37.000 I bench press heavier weights and I do a lot of other stuff.

01:40:41.000 Oh, you're scaring me without breathing.

01:40:44.000 You can't even help me.

01:40:45.000 Your breathing is so powerful.

01:40:47.000 You just...

01:40:49.000 I can't even do that.

01:40:50.000 What are you doing now?

01:40:52.000 Oh, that's it.

01:40:53.000 It's a nose.

01:40:58.000 What's the world record push-ups?

01:41:00.000 How many think the world record in a row?

01:41:01.000 I bet it's like 300. That's for without leaving the push-up position.

01:41:07.000 In 1980, somebody did it 3,072 times.

01:41:10.000 For women, it's 302. What? 0.83

01:41:12.000 Yeah.

01:41:13.000 3,000?

01:41:14.000 You can stay there all day.

01:41:16.000 There's no time limit on that.

01:41:17.000 Oh, so you can go down and rest and then push yourself back up?

01:41:21.000 You can hold yourself up probably even for like an hour if you wanted to.

01:41:23.000 Jesus Christ!

01:41:25.000 What about in a row?

01:41:26.000 What about consecutive?

01:41:27.000 No rest?

01:41:28.000 There's records like in an hour.

01:41:30.000 Is there a consecutive?

01:41:31.000 Most push-ups non-stop is 10,500. 1.00

01:41:34.000 Jesus fucking Christ! 1.00

01:41:36.000 Holy shit! 1.00

01:41:37.000 Some revelation going on, eh? 1.00

01:41:39.000 Oh my God! 1.00

01:41:41.000 What kind of a fucking freak does 10,000 push-ups? 1.00

01:41:45.000 Oh, but wait a minute. 1.00

01:41:46.000 Wait a minute.

01:41:46.000 Look at what they're defining as push-ups.

01:41:49.000 Oh, well, that's like...

01:41:50.000 Look at their push-ups. 0.99

01:41:51.000 They don't go all the way down, those fucks. 1.00

01:41:54.000 No, this is what they're counting. 0.99

01:41:56.000 This is the details of that guy.

01:41:59.000 You gotta wait with words, man.

01:42:01.000 They're going halfway!

01:42:03.000 You gotta touch your chin.

01:42:06.000 The world record.

01:42:08.000 So it's defined, though.

01:42:09.000 It's defined by a specific degree of bend in your arms.

01:42:13.000 What counts as a push-up?

01:42:15.000 Yeah.

01:42:15.000 It's essentially when your arm, your upper arm is 90 degrees.

01:42:20.000 When your upper arm is parallel to the ground.

01:42:22.000 Yeah.

01:42:22.000 Right?

01:42:23.000 That's what it says.

01:42:24.000 Yeah.

01:42:24.000 And your lower arm is straight up and down.

01:42:28.000 Huh.

01:42:29.000 3,800 an hour.

01:42:30.000 3,877.

01:42:31.000 Jesus Christ, that's crazy. 1.00

01:42:33.000 That guy probably couldn't even tie his fucking shoes the next day. 1.00

01:42:38.000 Probably tore himself apart. 1.00

01:42:40.000 We went to...

01:42:42.000 We should get Wim Hof together with Louie Simmons.

01:42:45.000 How about that?

01:42:47.000 Do you know who Louie Simmons is?

01:42:49.000 No, not yet. 1.00

01:42:49.000 Louie Simmons is a madman. 1.00

01:42:52.000 He's a very famous power lifter. 0.98

01:42:56.000 Every single part of his body has been broken.

01:42:58.000 He's in his 60s and he's been on steroids since 1970. There's Louie Simmons.

01:43:04.000 He has no biceps.

01:43:06.000 I think in this picture he probably still had biceps.

01:43:09.000 It seems like they're still there.

01:43:10.000 His biceps have torn off of the bone.

01:43:15.000 If he lifts his arms over his head, he blacks out because he's so damaged. 0.94

01:43:20.000 He has so much neck and tissue damage. 1.00

01:43:24.000 He's a fucking maniac. 1.00

01:43:25.000 What a character he is, though. 1.00

01:43:27.000 We interviewed him last month.

01:43:29.000 We went to his gym.

01:43:30.000 He's a really, really famous powerlifter.

01:43:31.000 He's actually a genius when it comes to the construction of exercise equipment.

01:43:36.000 We have one of his pieces of equipment in the back.

01:43:38.000 It's called a reverse hyper. 0.99

01:43:39.000 That damn thing changed my life. 0.99

01:43:41.000 I'll show it to you afterwards. 0.99

01:43:42.000 You can see it actively decompresses the spine.

01:43:45.000 See, that's the lifting up, but on the lifting down, It goes under, the weight goes underneath that bench, and it actually pulls apart your spine.

01:43:55.000 It decompresses the spine, so all the gravity and the stress and all the different...

01:44:01.000 Amazing!

01:44:01.000 You can see how it works.

01:44:02.000 It's an amazing piece of equipment, and Louis invented that. 0.99

01:44:06.000 He's got some great, great ideas about powerlifting, but he's just, like many brilliant people, he's fucking insane. 0.99

01:44:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.97

01:44:13.000 In a great way, in a great way. 0.97

01:44:15.000 Yeah.

01:44:16.000 But, anyway, you and him together, maybe you can fix him.

01:44:19.000 Get him breathing.

01:44:20.000 He wouldn't. 1.00

01:44:21.000 He'd start swearing and throwing shit around. 1.00

01:44:23.000 Do some steroids. 0.99

01:44:24.000 Yeah.

01:44:27.000 Great.

01:44:28.000 So...

01:44:31.000 There I am, man.

01:44:34.000 Yeah, I had a lot more facts going on.

01:44:37.000 We really are progressing with the science and becoming more famous and we are reaching out more and more.

01:44:45.000 Very powerful people, famous people are beginning to get the idea.

01:44:51.000 And they will help me.

01:44:53.000 In the end, I want to do charity.

01:44:56.000 Because I did already the breakthroughs within the science, and now I want to do charity.

01:45:03.000 That's awesome.

01:45:04.000 Yes.

01:45:05.000 Like we were talking about Tanzania and the reserves, and the Maasai.

01:45:11.000 And the Maasai, before, they were the men who were able to stand off a line.

01:45:16.000 So they are dealing with fear.

01:45:20.000 A lion is able to smell fear in animals that's reactive.

01:45:30.000 It's our hormones, but people have it as well.

01:45:33.000 And so that's why we go in cars, through these reserves, etc.

01:45:38.000 Now, I found that fear is actually coming in Within us subconscious fear because we are not acting natural anymore.

01:45:51.000 We alienate from nature and we have fear.

01:45:55.000 We are able to walk in a city with an attitude, etc.

01:45:58.000 But do it now in front of a lion.

01:46:00.000 Then you become fearful because you know you are not able to cope with that situation.

01:46:06.000 And you have to be peaceful.

01:46:08.000 You have to be there.

01:46:09.000 Then the lion will not attack you.

01:46:12.000 It only attacks when it's hungry and you can see things and all those things.

01:46:17.000 But if you have no fear, you could just pass by a couple of meters from lions in the world.

01:46:25.000 What?

01:46:25.000 Yes, and this is what I'm...

01:46:27.000 Who knows this?

01:46:28.000 Me and the Maasai.

01:46:30.000 Have you done it?

01:46:31.000 I'm with the Maasai.

01:46:33.000 Don't do it.

01:46:34.000 I'm with the Maasai, and they...

01:46:37.000 I'm doing this.

01:46:39.000 It's called Garden of Eden Project.

01:46:42.000 That means with really wild animals like hyenas, elephants, giraffes, lions... 0.56

01:46:49.000 I want to show you a picture before you engage in this ridiculous adventure. 0.83

01:46:52.000 No, no, no, no.

01:46:53.000 There's a photo of a photographer that climbed out of his Jeep.

01:46:57.000 Do you see that photo?

01:46:58.000 Remember it was in the Daily Mail?

01:47:00.000 Where there's a series of photographs where a lion was going to pounce on him.

01:47:04.000 It literally Jumped towards him and opened its mouth, and this guy got photos.

01:47:09.000 I think it was inside of like 30 or 40 feet when the lion finally stopped, but they are some of the most terrifying photos.

01:47:18.000 Photographer gets shots of lion when it almost attacked him.

01:47:23.000 See if you can find it.

01:47:24.000 I have them on my phone.

01:47:25.000 Interesting.

01:47:26.000 Interesting.

01:47:27.000 It was my screensaver on my phone forever.

01:47:28.000 Interesting.

01:47:29.000 But you see, a situation, another situation, people go in the jeep through the safari and see the lions, about 12 of them lying there, and you go with the jeep,

01:47:45.000 and then suddenly comes a Messiah kid on his bike, and all the lions see him, and they...

01:47:51.000 There he is.

01:47:52.000 Look at that face.

01:47:54.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:47:55.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:47:55.000 That. 1.00

01:47:56.000 Whoa, yeah.

01:47:57.000 Look at that thing. 0.92

01:47:58.000 Look at the eyes.

01:47:59.000 Looks like the lycanthrope.

01:48:01.000 It's way scarier than a werewolf.

01:48:02.000 You know why?

01:48:03.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:48:04.000 Because a lion is a lion every fucking day of the week. 1.00

01:48:07.000 365 days a year as long as it's alive. 1.00

01:48:09.000 A werewolf is only a werewolf one day a month.

01:48:12.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:48:13.000 Only on the full moon. 1.00

01:48:14.000 That's a goddamn lion. 1.00

01:48:16.000 Fuck a werewolf. 1.00

01:48:17.000 Yeah, man. 1.00

01:48:17.000 It's kind of funny because that's way scarier than a werewolf. 1.00

01:48:20.000 It's way bigger than a werewolf.

01:48:21.000 Interesting.

01:48:22.000 Look at the face on that thing.

01:48:23.000 Yeah, man.

01:48:24.000 God, nature is amazing.

01:48:27.000 Like, that is an amazing creation.

01:48:30.000 Interesting.

01:48:31.000 An amazing creature.

01:48:32.000 But the Maasai are able to stand off. 0.99

01:48:36.000 I'll believe it when I see it.

01:48:38.000 Yes, but the thing is...

01:48:39.000 Jamie, what do you think?

01:48:40.000 Look at that thing. 0.92

01:48:41.000 The thing is, I want them, you know, to create an agency with the Maasai together and then have people walk through a reserve instead of... 0.96

01:48:55.000 a car under guidance of under guidance of the Maasai under guidance of Navy SEALs armed to the tits yeah fucking missile launchers and shit yeah yeah you think so that that helps but it is something definitely helps that's the only way I'm going More important is to help the homeless. 0.84

01:49:25.000 Yes. 0.98

01:49:26.000 How are you going to help them?

01:49:28.000 Math?

01:49:29.000 You know, PTSD and all that.

01:49:32.000 We are into university studies right now, dealing with that.

01:49:36.000 And about the homeless, like Tony Robbins, providing like 100 million meals.

01:49:44.000 I'm going to help wherever I can, of course.

01:49:47.000 I want to do more.

01:49:48.000 There are these soup kitchens and they don't ask money for your participation and have, say, a meal.

01:50:01.000 But you can donate.

01:50:03.000 So people who are homeless, they have no money.

01:50:06.000 So they are able to eat.

01:50:08.000 And those who come there and have also a meal, they are not obliged to give money.

01:50:15.000 But they give it anyway.

01:50:17.000 And they see the idea behind it, the charity goal behind it.

01:50:22.000 And most of the times they give okay money.

01:50:27.000 And it survives.

01:50:28.000 It's okay.

01:50:28.000 It works.

01:50:29.000 Now, I want these homeless people not only to have a soup kitchen like that, but also work on the land.

01:50:38.000 And providing, say, vegetables and all that for the restaurant and distribute as well in the city.

01:50:46.000 I think this way we could, it's very making them active, not just donating and giving food, but to get them back into the infrastructure, the system, the civilization among people.

01:51:01.000 Right.

01:51:02.000 That's it.

01:51:02.000 Well, if you could just get them active and give them some hope, right?

01:51:06.000 There's a lot of people that just...

01:51:08.000 Almost, I think, there's levels of...

01:51:12.000 Poverty and despair and I think for some people they're just like on the edge and maybe just a little bit of help or bring them back off the edge and Bring them back into circulation, you know, I mean yeah Many people become homeless over time and they weren't before and then it just things don't go well and I know a bunch of I have a bunch of comedian friends that lived in their cars and You know lived on people's couches and were real close to homeless but made it through and So there's various levels.

01:51:40.000 Strange thing, a thing called civilization.

01:51:43.000 Yes, I mean, homeless is a very strange thing, right?

01:51:46.000 Like, you don't have a regular place to go.

01:51:48.000 And that, in our mind, is one of the saddest things. 1.00

01:51:52.000 Like, oh, you don't have a place for your shit. 1.00

01:51:55.000 How do you watch TV? How do you get online? 1.00

01:51:59.000 Do you even have a Facebook?

01:52:01.000 You're homeless?

01:52:03.000 You know, and that's how a lot of us look at it.

01:52:05.000 We look at someone not having a home.

01:52:07.000 Meanwhile, the homeless person or this person who's like a backpacker or some, you know, person who's like a traveler, they might be way happier and healthier than a lot of people that you see trapped in these homes that are sitting there smoking cigarettes.

01:52:21.000 Absolutely.

01:52:22.000 I mean, caring and sharing.

01:52:24.000 Yeah.

01:52:25.000 That is the thing missing.

01:52:27.000 It will certainly help a lot of people, right?

01:52:30.000 Yeah.

01:52:31.000 And how to get to that, you know, it's abstract now, but I'm getting through science, but I did the science now.

01:52:40.000 Well, isn't it also part of...

01:52:41.000 Now we're to do charity.

01:52:42.000 That's a great thing, man.

01:52:44.000 It is great.

01:52:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:52:45.000 And you're helping me right now.

01:52:46.000 I'm happy to be helping you.

01:52:48.000 Don't you think it's maybe a little bit of our society is so competitive and that that competitive nature sort of alienates us from the other people around us?

01:52:57.000 We think of them as competitors rather than think of them as our brothers and sisters.

01:53:01.000 I think there's a...

01:53:04.000 There's a lack of clarity when it comes to the actual real amount of time that we have here.

01:53:09.000 We don't really have that much time.

01:53:11.000 It seems like a lot of time.

01:53:13.000 But I'm 49. How old are you?

01:53:16.000 57. Yeah, it goes quick, right?

01:53:18.000 All of a sudden, it's... 0.98

01:53:20.000 I'm still gonna go do fucking a whole lot, man. 0.98

01:53:24.000 No, I'm not saying you're not going to. 0.98

01:53:26.000 I'm not saying you're not going to.

01:53:27.000 It's going fast.

01:53:28.000 It's going fast.

01:53:29.000 But we broke through, and what you did is also very memorable, commemorable.

01:53:35.000 It's good.

01:53:36.000 We gotta bring more consciousness.

01:53:38.000 We will.

01:53:39.000 If we are really strong, we protect the weak and those who are not able to honor. 0.99

01:53:46.000 You know, we give love.

01:53:48.000 And we do it in our way.

01:53:50.000 You do it by creating awareness.

01:53:53.000 I do it by signs and try to do now charity.

01:53:57.000 And we gotta head it on one way or in another.

01:54:01.000 And also through inspiration.

01:54:03.000 I think that's another thing you're doing.

01:54:04.000 You're inspiring people to do something and take positive action.

01:54:08.000 And that oftentimes is the best thing you could do.

01:54:11.000 Rather than to help them or to give them help, You're providing them with their own self-help.

01:54:17.000 I just came from San Francisco now to meet you here.

01:54:22.000 I think, once again, honor, great.

01:54:25.000 Me too.

01:54:26.000 Good feel.

01:54:26.000 Feelings mutual.

01:54:27.000 Thanks very much.

01:54:29.000 I saw homeless people over there, but you know, big guys!

01:54:34.000 And looking good!

01:54:36.000 At a certain moment, I think, why don't you do something about this?

01:54:43.000 San Francisco is infested with acceptance.

01:54:47.000 They have too much acceptance. 0.99

01:54:48.000 They've gone so far over the edge that they've made it easy for people to, you know, just kind of fuck off and hang out on the street. 1.00

01:54:56.000 And then there's also the very real problem of mental illness. 0.93

01:55:01.000 And homeless veterans, people, as you said before, that have PTSD. There's a wide spectrum of reasons why people become homeless.

01:55:10.000 But San Francisco is very accepting of it.

01:55:12.000 It's the most accepting city I've ever been to when it comes to homeless people.

01:55:15.000 But it's also one of the reasons why San Francisco is so great.

01:55:18.000 They're so open-minded.

01:55:19.000 I lived there when I was a kid.

01:55:21.000 I lived in San Francisco from age 7 to 11. And it was a different San Francisco.

01:55:25.000 Because San Francisco now is all...

01:55:28.000 Tech giants and billionaires and real estate prices.

01:55:32.000 I did things over there now.

01:55:34.000 Oh my god, real estate prices are insane.

01:55:36.000 San Francisco is one of the most insane places in the world when it comes to real estate prices.

01:55:40.000 When I was a kid, it was hippies.

01:55:43.000 Because when I was there, it was during the Vietnam War.

01:55:45.000 And my stepdad was a hippie, my mom was kind of a hippie, and we lived in a hippie neighborhood.

01:55:50.000 It was just hippies. 0.84

01:55:51.000 It was weird. 0.50

01:55:52.000 It was all gay and hippies. 1.00

01:55:56.000 And it's not really like that anymore. 0.91

01:55:58.000 Even the gay people, like, they're kind of getting pushed out.

01:56:00.000 San Francisco's always kind of synonymous with gay people.

01:56:03.000 It's not...

01:56:03.000 I mean, it's more tech now than anything else, and just extraordinary wealth.

01:56:09.000 But they still are very open-minded, very progressive.

01:56:12.000 It's a very left-wing, sort of liberal kind of a town, which has its pluses and minuses, you know?

01:56:20.000 It's just...

01:56:21.000 The tolerance is excellent.

01:56:22.000 It's really good.

01:56:23.000 But when you have that many homeless people, something's not right.

01:56:28.000 What is that thing?

01:56:30.000 It would be very arrogant of me, without any work or investigation whatsoever, to try to give some sort of an explanation for what it is.

01:56:37.000 But a lot of it's got to be connected to how liberal they are.

01:56:42.000 They're so open-minded there.

01:56:43.000 Just accepting.

01:56:45.000 I think it is also, you know, a problem throughout America.

01:56:50.000 You know, the difference between the real rage and the poor.

01:56:55.000 But in Baltimore, for example, I saw a documentary lately about, this is the shame of America.

01:57:03.000 They told it in the documentary and things like that.

01:57:06.000 And now they do these programs of meditation and breathing in the schools.

01:57:12.000 In Baltimore.

01:57:13.000 Yes, in Baltimore.

01:57:14.000 And they got a lot of success.

01:57:17.000 Their mental state, their psyche is a lot better now.

01:57:22.000 And just because of minding, and that's what we need to get into school.

01:57:28.000 In schooling, breathing mindfulness.

01:57:31.000 Yeah, no, that would be an amazing thing for kids, for people.

01:57:34.000 Baltimore Elementary School, Nix's detention for mindful meditation.

01:57:38.000 Wow.

01:57:38.000 There you go.

01:57:40.000 That's amazing.

01:57:40.000 And children are very able to do that.

01:57:42.000 That can change lives.

01:57:44.000 Oh, yes.

01:57:45.000 That can truly, truly change lives because you can give a child, instead of this horrible thing where they feel terrible about themselves, you give them a reset.

01:57:54.000 Absolutely.

01:57:55.000 That's awesome.

01:57:56.000 We need more out-of-the-box thinking because the standard thinking of raising kids, I mean, I don't know what school's like in Holland, where you're from, but here in America, where I went to school, It was terribly confining.

01:58:10.000 You had to think a certain way.

01:58:12.000 You have to study certain things. 0.97

01:58:14.000 If you weren't interested in those things, they made you feel like a loser.

01:58:19.000 If you weren't interested in math, it was boring to you to study certain things. 0.99

01:58:22.000 They made you feel like you were a fool and you were never going to make it.

01:58:26.000 The most important essence of life, happiness, strength and health, They should be subjects in the school, boom, bang.

01:58:40.000 And embracing creativity.

01:58:42.000 Embracing creativity as an option for you doing something with your life.

01:58:46.000 No one ever tells you that you could be creative for a living, that you could be a sculptor, a painter, an artist, or a musician, or a stand-up comedian, or an author.

01:58:57.000 That's never offered up.

01:58:58.000 You have to get a job.

01:59:00.000 You have to get a job.

01:59:01.000 You have to work for somebody else, or start your own business and hire some people.

01:59:05.000 I mean, that is...

01:59:06.000 It's like if you look at the standard places that people go once they graduate from high school or college, it's usually to get a job.

01:59:14.000 So they push you in that direction.

01:59:16.000 There's no individual attention.

01:59:17.000 You don't feel unique.

01:59:19.000 You don't feel special.

01:59:20.000 You don't feel like you have a chance of making it outside the system.

01:59:24.000 You have to fit into the system that they're presenting to you.

01:59:27.000 These are your college courses.

01:59:28.000 These are your college options.

01:59:29.000 Your GPA is not so good, so you're going to have to go here, and that's going to suck because then your job option is going to be limited. 0.99

01:59:35.000 Or you can go to a community college and try to bring it up, and you're like, oh my god, all this fucking work, and then I'm going to take a job that's going to suck, and it's just soul-sucking for me. 0.96

01:59:44.000 I mean, for some people, those options seem like a wonderful idea. 0.95

01:59:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:59:48.000 They don't offer you a lot of choices.

01:59:51.000 There's not like...

01:59:53.000 The creative fields are not embraced.

01:59:56.000 And I think that's a real problem because many, many, many, many kids...

01:59:59.000 Creativity is the means to express the soul's purpose.

02:00:03.000 And there's only 7% in the world population that is being creative.

02:00:09.000 Is that real?

02:00:10.000 Yeah, the rest is into this system.

02:00:14.000 That's crazy.

02:00:15.000 Almost, you know.

02:00:17.000 But 100% of little children are creative.

02:00:19.000 It's sodomizing the soul. 1.00

02:00:21.000 It's not letting the soul express itself.

02:00:24.000 I mean, the soul.

02:00:25.000 Nobody knows what it is.

02:00:27.000 But creativity, expressing your being, makes the world so beautiful, actually, and now it's becoming like a grey area, feeding a system, and nobody knows how to stop this.

02:00:43.000 This system needs to turn around and begin to look, how can we serve your happiness, strength and health?

02:00:51.000 Because strong, healthy and happy people will make up a great system.

02:01:00.000 We have gone too far.

02:01:02.000 Now we need to come back into self-awareness.

02:01:06.000 And we are proving this.

02:01:09.000 Simply that we are able to do so much more therein.

02:01:12.000 Well, I think there's just a lot of momentum that's...

02:01:15.000 That is attached to our education system and to our job options once we graduate from school.

02:01:22.000 And this momentum is very difficult to someone to step away from because most of the time, by the time someone graduates from college, you're already in debt.

02:01:29.000 You are in debt from credit cards.

02:01:32.000 You're in debt from student loans.

02:01:33.000 Money, money, money, money.

02:01:34.000 And you have to make money in order to pay that debt off, and so you immediately go right into the workforce, and then you're tired after working all day, and most people find it very difficult to find a way to break free and to pursue their real dreams, whatever they are, you know, songwriting,

02:01:50.000 being an author, being Wim Hof.

02:01:54.000 Yeah, I had to find my way.

02:01:56.000 Yeah, what did you used to do for a living?

02:01:58.000 All kinds of things.

02:02:00.000 Like what?

02:02:00.000 I've been a teacher.

02:02:04.000 What did you teach?

02:02:05.000 A postman.

02:02:06.000 English.

02:02:07.000 Yoga.

02:02:08.000 You taught yoga?

02:02:09.000 Yes.

02:02:10.000 No kidding.

02:02:10.000 Oh, I know stuff.

02:02:12.000 I just do all kinds of exercises.

02:02:16.000 Well, I've seen some of the crazy poses you can get into.

02:02:19.000 I imagine you teach yoga.

02:02:20.000 So, and say mountaineering instructor or going into mountain guide, mountain guiding, canyoning, all those things, postman, working in a harbor,

02:02:40.000 you know, ships, unloading ships, harbor.

02:02:45.000 Many things.

02:02:46.000 Wherever I could lay my hands, because I didn't finish any schooling.

02:02:51.000 I'm a self-made man.

02:02:53.000 I speak many languages, but I all taught them myself and learned a lot about philosophy.

02:03:00.000 What language do you speak?

02:03:02.000 Right now, English, besides my own language, Dutch, but then also French and German and Polish and Spanish and Italian.

02:03:11.000 Wow.

02:03:11.000 And even Japanese.

02:03:13.000 And you speak those languages as well as you speak English?

02:03:16.000 No, because you need to practice.

02:03:18.000 You do not use it, you lose it, sort of.

02:03:22.000 But it's all in there.

02:03:25.000 So your primary is English and Dutch?

02:03:28.000 English, Dutch first. 0.98

02:03:29.000 Yes, and then German, Spanish, then French.

02:03:33.000 That's amazing.

02:03:34.000 And you learn these from books?

02:03:35.000 Yes, books and talking to people.

02:03:38.000 Just talking?

02:03:39.000 Yes.

02:03:39.000 But what about the grammar?

02:03:41.000 I mean, I would imagine the difference between...

02:03:44.000 You take up books.

02:03:45.000 Once you begin to understand a couple of languages, you know the logic of the languages.

02:03:50.000 Right.

02:03:50.000 And it becomes easier to take up a language.

02:03:53.000 What did you want to do?

02:03:56.000 What I wanted to do is...

02:03:58.000 Like when you were a young guy.

02:03:58.000 What I'm doing right now.

02:03:59.000 Really?

02:04:00.000 Yes.

02:04:00.000 I was really looking up to people.

02:04:02.000 18 years old.

02:04:03.000 19 years old.

02:04:03.000 You're a young man.

02:04:04.000 Really, I was into changing the world.

02:04:06.000 I was so far out doing crazy stuff.

02:04:12.000 Like what?

02:04:12.000 Like from 17 years on, I began to go into the cold.

02:04:18.000 Being inspired by anthropologists who went into Tibet and talked about the Gudumo discipline, the Buddhist, the esoteric disciplines of Buddhism and what they call Siddhis within the yoga and all those.

02:04:37.000 Oh, cities, S-I-T-I, cities of levitation.

02:04:41.000 Yes, and all those things.

02:04:43.000 And Japan, and there's samurai in Budo 3. All that, I was very, very intrigued.

02:04:51.000 Why?

02:04:51.000 Because...

02:04:53.000 I think they found a way to show that the depth is existent.

02:04:58.000 But it takes years!

02:05:00.000 And you gotta go like a caveman and isolate, become a guru or an adept into these yogic practices.

02:05:13.000 And it's all very secretive and things like that.

02:05:18.000 I was looking into that.

02:05:20.000 And why?

02:05:23.000 I think it has got something to do with my birth.

02:05:26.000 It was traumatic.

02:05:27.000 It was one of the identical twins and I was born quite too late.

02:05:33.000 Not really too late, but it made a real psychic imprint when I came without Too much of oxygen.

02:05:42.000 Fear and trauma.

02:05:44.000 Yes, and too cold in a place.

02:05:49.000 I was born delivered over there.

02:05:52.000 So I think that made a psychic imprint which had an absolute influence in my growing.

02:06:00.000 And then later, what's happening?

02:06:02.000 I always were...

02:06:03.000 Have been looking into psychology, different disciplines, religions, etc.

02:06:09.000 Always more interested than my identical twin brother.

02:06:13.000 He's actually a normal guy, working like 9 to 5, like everybody.

02:06:19.000 Maybe you could get him to play you in some places when you can't get there?

02:06:22.000 We had these things going.

02:06:24.000 Does he grow his hair like you?

02:06:26.000 No, no, no.

02:06:27.000 You guys got to meet in the middle.

02:06:29.000 Yeah, we did tricks.

02:06:31.000 We did tricks because we look so much like each other.

02:06:35.000 And if he wanted to have, say, even we could trick our mother.

02:06:40.000 What about girlfriends?

02:06:42.000 Girlfriend.

02:06:43.000 No comment.

02:06:45.000 Do you guys have the same amount of gray in your beard and the whole deal?

02:06:50.000 No, he's different now.

02:06:52.000 What does he look like?

02:06:53.000 He's more bold than I am.

02:06:56.000 More stress?

02:06:58.000 I think more stress, yes.

02:07:00.000 Does he exercise?

02:07:01.000 Exercise, yeah.

02:07:03.000 He took up a lot of what I am doing, but I really, in my mind, I go a lot Further than he is able to.

02:07:13.000 And that's interesting that you correlate that with your birth, that you were born after him, and that there was some trauma involved and danger.

02:07:22.000 Oh, yes, yes.

02:07:22.000 Some stress.

02:07:23.000 So, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

02:07:26.000 It made a psychic imprint, and later in my life I began to look into that.

02:07:30.000 And, you know, the first time I went into this cold water, I had this connection with that trauma.

02:07:38.000 Because no other way gave me this connection with this deep trauma.

02:07:43.000 And I didn't know where it was, who inflicted it or my mother told me later.

02:07:50.000 And then it made sense to me.

02:07:52.000 Oh, that's why.

02:07:53.000 That's why I like it in the cold and because I was born in the cold, almost suffocated.

02:08:00.000 That's why I do these breathing exercises and feel good.

02:08:04.000 Finally, I'm able to tap into that traumatic imprint and change the chemistry at will, controlled.

02:08:13.000 And then I found out I was able to do so much more because now I was able to do it consciously.

02:08:20.000 And from there, I got into the television, then I got into the science, and it appears to be that I found also a way to tap into what we call, say, trauma, PTSD, emotion, fear, depression, and not only that,

02:08:37.000 autoimmune diseases, possibly cancer.

02:08:40.000 We still got to find out, of course, but I think nature's got the solutions for us.

02:08:48.000 But we need to go back into nature.

02:08:51.000 And the nature is all inside.

02:08:55.000 We all got the faculties, the abilities to wake them up and to bring them within our control.

02:09:03.000 And now we have shown that scientifically, within a couple of days, you are able to tap into all those systems.

02:09:10.000 How far we can go still needs that.

02:09:12.000 What do you think about the effect of modern civilization, traffic, just stress and pollution?

02:09:20.000 Environmental pollution, pollution, the air, things like that.

02:09:24.000 What kind of an effect do you think that has on Absolutely.

02:09:28.000 Wrong effect.

02:09:29.000 Chemical deregulation, biochemical deregulation up till the DNA. Bam.

02:09:35.000 So epigenetical, not only genetically, but during the life, you talk about epigenetics, we are able to influence into the genome structure of the DNA, but with the existence,

02:09:52.000 smog, stress, Negative thoughts and radiation of things.

02:10:00.000 I don't know.

02:10:02.000 We mess up the chemistry.

02:10:05.000 We are dealing with chemistry and we eat food which is not really food anymore.

02:10:12.000 Our systems are able to do with natural food.

02:10:19.000 A natural tribal being, like taking care of each other, brothers and sisters, like tribal.

02:10:25.000 That's the way.

02:10:26.000 And what we do now is competition, creating a whole lot of stress, uncontrolled, getting on us all the time.

02:10:37.000 Why?

02:10:37.000 To serve a system instead of Happiness, strength and health.

02:10:42.000 It's not being served anymore.

02:10:44.000 Everybody running behind a deadline.

02:10:48.000 And on top of that, we get food which is masked with.

02:10:55.000 We create a lot of difficulties for our physiology that works back on our brain because it's a piece of meat inside and it's just working on biochemics and we are messing with that.

02:11:07.000 So what I found in nature is It's actually a shortcut to learn to cleanse all the pollution, creating a wrong chemistry, creating deregulation of the DNA, and causing the body not to be able to deal with,

02:11:24.000 say, disease, sickness, and depression, and all these things.

02:11:30.000 Do you live in nature?

02:11:31.000 Like, where do you live?

02:11:33.000 Do you live in a city?

02:11:35.000 Right now, I live in, say, a little village.

02:11:39.000 A little village, small town?

02:11:40.000 Yes.

02:11:41.000 So not too stressful?

02:11:42.000 It does not matter.

02:11:43.000 I can live anywhere.

02:11:44.000 You can live in New York City?

02:11:46.000 Absolutely, yes.

02:11:47.000 But wouldn't you freak out? 1.00

02:11:48.000 All the bam bam, fuck you! 1.00

02:11:50.000 Oh, no. 1.00

02:11:51.000 Break dust?

02:11:52.000 No, no.

02:11:52.000 I used to sit as an exercise on the middle of the square, one of the most trafficked squares of a big city in the Netherlands, which is Amsterdam, and just meditate on the square.

02:12:09.000 Huh.

02:12:09.000 And with all the cars coming, going, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

02:12:14.000 And I actually had a great time.

02:12:17.000 Really?

02:12:17.000 Yes.

02:12:18.000 So you used it as like an exercise?

02:12:22.000 Yes, sir.

02:12:23.000 Like a stressor, come on.

02:12:24.000 Yeah, so all that chaos and madness, you found your peace inside of all that.

02:12:28.000 You really are able to distance there from and witness how it works on your systems, your nervous system.

02:12:38.000 And the nervous system then is able to deal with that.

02:12:43.000 You become so tranquil.

02:12:45.000 And the more it tries to get to you, these are also exercises of yogis.

02:12:51.000 They sit with four fires around them, or in the cold, what I also did and all that.

02:12:58.000 The extremes are, it's extremely Great!

02:13:03.000 The feeling which derives if we just witness and let go, interfering in the systems, working with the impact of what is going on, which could be stress in any way.

02:13:17.000 So you find your own inner peace, myths, all that noise.

02:13:22.000 And that's the way our mind can work.

02:13:25.000 That's what I do when my wife tells me boring stories. 1.00

02:13:27.000 I don't even listen.

02:13:28.000 I just go into my center.

02:13:36.000 G'dang! 1.00

02:13:36.000 And I have to, like, pay attention to the inflection that might indicate a question. 1.00

02:13:41.000 God damn it. 0.99

02:13:42.000 I mean, women. 1.00

02:13:43.000 And when that comes, you know?

02:13:45.000 And I go, oh yeah.

02:13:46.000 Yeah.

02:13:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:13:51.000 Women can be very stressful. 1.00

02:13:52.000 They know you.

02:13:53.000 So can men.

02:13:54.000 I hate to date a man.

02:13:55.000 They track you down.

02:13:56.000 Women are way better than men in that regard. 1.00

02:13:57.000 I think men are probably more stressful. 0.98

02:13:59.000 Especially if you're banging them. 0.57

02:14:01.000 Right?

02:14:01.000 Yeah.

02:14:01.000 Jamie, you know what I'm talking about.

02:14:03.000 I love them.

02:14:04.000 I love them.

02:14:05.000 I love my wife.

02:14:06.000 I love my girlfriend.

02:14:07.000 Take my wife, please. 1.00

02:14:10.000 It's a Henny Youngman joke.

02:14:12.000 Easy does it.

02:14:13.000 What else going on?

02:14:15.000 Should we wrap this up?

02:14:17.000 You got more to tell us?

02:14:18.000 No, no, no.

02:14:18.000 It's all about love, and it was very lovable to be here.

02:14:22.000 I feel no stress whatsoever. 0.99

02:14:24.000 I did my shit, but there's a whole lot more coming. 0.99

02:14:28.000 But I think the gist of it... 0.98

02:14:31.000 has been discussed has been gotten out and it is life so so interesting so beautiful I thank you for you being a big window for so many and I thank you for being a part of it it means a lot to me to have you come back on it means a lot to me to be able to To share a lot of your ideas with the world and give you a platform.

02:14:57.000 And I think what you're doing is amazing.

02:15:00.000 It's incredible.

02:15:01.000 It's not just incredible because it's so effective and it's so scientifically proven.

02:15:05.000 It's also incredible because it's so rare that there's not that many people doing this.

02:15:10.000 And if there are, they're not talking about it the way you are.

02:15:14.000 And they're not subjecting themselves to scientific research.

02:15:18.000 And I think that's one of the more amazing things about it.

02:15:21.000 Because just like that guy, what was your friend's name?

02:15:24.000 Scott Carney?

02:15:24.000 Is that what his name was?

02:15:25.000 Yeah, Scott Carney. 0.64

02:15:26.000 He, of course, you know, you hear these stories and you probably assume that you're some sort of a guru, crazy person, running a cult.

02:15:34.000 But then he gets to meet you and he goes, oh, this is one of the rare real deals.

02:15:39.000 There's not a lot of real deals out there.

02:15:41.000 There's not a lot of people who are really living an extraordinary life.

02:15:46.000 And you, Wim Hof, are living an extraordinary life.

02:15:50.000 Wow, that's great.

02:15:52.000 And as long as people like you and me and everybody who is in the same realm exist, we help the ones who are not...

02:16:01.000 And it helps us.

02:16:02.000 Yes.

02:16:03.000 The poor and the weak who are not able to do.

02:16:07.000 We are the strong men.

02:16:09.000 And you know the American natives, they got a...

02:16:11.000 You are being measured by the way you give.

02:16:15.000 And that means not money.

02:16:18.000 It means love.

02:16:19.000 It means effectiveness for children to feel no stress and grow up for being great human beings.

02:16:28.000 Because being a human being should be something very, very beautiful on this beautiful planet.

02:16:35.000 Yeah, I agree, man.

02:16:37.000 I try to express to people that these shows would not be possible if people weren't listening.

02:16:44.000 I wouldn't do them.

02:16:45.000 Nobody would be willing to.

02:16:46.000 It's kind of an interesting thing about podcasts because I couldn't just get you to come here and just sit and talk to me and nobody else would hear for hours and hours.

02:16:54.000 The actual mechanism of doing a podcast, the act of doing a podcast allows me to To listen to these people like you and all these other interesting people that I'm so lucky to get to talk to.

02:17:07.000 So I benefit from it tremendously, but it wouldn't exist without other people listening.

02:17:13.000 So the fact that people are listening is what makes me have these things in the first place.

02:17:17.000 We thank the people who are listening right now from our heart.

02:17:22.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:17:23.000 Absolutely.

02:17:24.000 If it wasn't for them, that sounds so cliche.

02:17:27.000 Hey, if it wasn't for you guys, we couldn't do it.

02:17:29.000 But there would be no reason.

02:17:30.000 There would be no motivation.

02:17:33.000 If it wasn't for people listening, there would be no show.

02:17:37.000 It wouldn't exist.

02:17:38.000 I would never have met you.

02:17:40.000 I've never met all the extraordinary people that I've met.

02:17:43.000 I'm very eager to see what this is going to do.

02:17:48.000 Because the last time I met you and afterwards, I hear Joe Rogan everywhere, everywhere, everywhere since then.

02:17:56.000 So I came here now, well, I'm going to go to Joe Rogan.

02:18:00.000 But then at a certain moment, my expectation heaviness fell off.

02:18:07.000 I'm just going to say my thing.

02:18:09.000 Yeah.

02:18:09.000 And being lied with him.

02:18:10.000 Just have a good time.

02:18:12.000 Like last time.

02:18:12.000 I had.

02:18:13.000 And we did.

02:18:14.000 We had a great time.

02:18:15.000 Oh yeah. 1.00

02:18:16.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

02:18:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:18:17.000 It was great.

02:18:18.000 It was great.

02:18:18.000 You've become friends with my friend Chris Ryan.

02:18:21.000 Oh yeah, hey.

02:18:24.000 Oh, that's his shirt.

02:18:25.000 That's right.

02:18:25.000 His shirt, man.

02:18:26.000 Civilized to death. 0.59

02:18:28.000 Civilized to death.

02:18:29.000 Yeah.

02:18:30.000 I love Chris.

02:18:31.000 He's awesome.

02:18:32.000 I do a podcast with him and Duncan Trussell.

02:18:34.000 We call it the Shrimp Parade.

02:18:35.000 We do it.

02:18:36.000 It's just like it's completely informal.

02:18:37.000 Like we'll do one episode of my podcast and we'll do one episode of Duncan's, one episode of Chris's, and we just sort of rotate back and forth between each other when Chris is in town.

02:18:46.000 But Chris was living in Barcelona for a little bit, but now he's back.

02:18:50.000 So we're going to do one soon.

02:18:51.000 But he loves you, too.

02:18:53.000 He had a great time with you.

02:18:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:18:55.000 I just had a podcast with him, say, a week ago or something, together with a professor.

02:19:01.000 I don't remember his name.

02:19:03.000 Well, his podcast, for people who want to listen, it's called Tangentially Speaking, and it's available on iTunes, and it's available on, is it chrisryan.com?

02:19:12.000 Is that his drchrisryan.com, maybe?

02:19:16.000 chrisryanphd.com.

02:19:17.000 Chris Ryan, phd.com.

02:19:19.000 I think that's also his Twitter handle.

02:19:22.000 And Chris is awesome.

02:19:23.000 He's a great storyteller.

02:19:25.000 He's a brilliant, brilliant guy.

02:19:27.000 And he also has a great book.

02:19:29.000 What is it?

02:19:30.000 About the sex.

02:19:32.000 The sex of dawning. 0.73

02:19:33.000 Of dawning of sex.

02:19:35.000 What is it called? 0.87

02:19:36.000 Sex at Dawning. 0.99

02:19:36.000 Sex at Dawn. 0.99

02:19:38.000 It's a great book. 0.99

02:19:39.000 It's so good that my friend's wife threw it in the garbage.

02:19:42.000 It's so good my friend's wife threw it in the garbage.

02:19:45.000 She started reading and she goes, you are not reading this and she chucked it in the trash.

02:19:49.000 Yeah, I do not agree really with this sexual, you know, explanations about how it went and why we have these urges like from the prehistoric.

02:20:01.000 You don't agree?

02:20:03.000 He's a scientist!

02:20:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a scientist.

02:20:08.000 What do you disagree with?

02:20:10.000 Right now we have an ability to consciously choose a woman.

02:20:16.000 And in this world, it's not about going and spreading seed everywhere.

02:20:22.000 No, just be with one woman, consciously.

02:20:25.000 You know, in 50 years...

02:20:26.000 Yeah, but that's not really what he's saying.

02:20:28.000 What he's saying, he's sort of trying to explain the...

02:20:32.000 Yeah, yes, I know.

02:20:33.000 ...the origins of these urges, and...

02:20:36.000 I think he's very intelligent, and what he does is great work, because he wakes up a whole lot of people.

02:20:43.000 Yeah, it's very controversial, but it's very rooted in science.

02:20:47.000 He's got this story with this cat.

02:20:49.000 A cat? 0.98

02:20:50.000 Yeah, making sex with the cat. 1.00

02:20:52.000 He had sex with a cat? 1.00

02:20:54.000 Did he tell that story? 0.99

02:20:56.000 I feel like he did tell that story.

02:20:57.000 Not really.

02:20:58.000 He got a boner on his cat?

02:21:00.000 Not really.

02:21:01.000 That one.

02:21:02.000 But you know, figuring out what a cat's sexuality was all about.

02:21:07.000 That's right.

02:21:08.000 I did it always with my dogs.

02:21:11.000 Oh boy.

02:21:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:21:12.000 Should have ended the show five minutes ago. 0.56

02:21:14.000 On the leg and all that.

02:21:17.000 I mean, we all do.

02:21:18.000 They would hop your leg? 0.99

02:21:19.000 Yeah, humping.

02:21:20.000 Dogs will hop your leg.

02:21:21.000 Yes, yes.

02:21:24.000 Because we want to find out there shouldn't be no taboo on sex.

02:21:28.000 We should have proper education therein.

02:21:32.000 Yes, we have a real problem in America.

02:21:34.000 Because we suppress sexual behavior.

02:21:37.000 Yes.

02:21:37.000 And then it gets into these perverted ways anyway because it's a power and it is not able to grow into love.

02:21:45.000 Yes.

02:21:47.000 And that should be how we end this.

02:21:49.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:21:50.000 Don't suppress shit. 1.00

02:21:51.000 Be loving. 1.00

02:21:52.000 Yes, sir.

02:21:53.000 Rock on, Wim Hof.

02:21:54.000 Right on.

02:21:55.000 Thank you, my brother.

02:21:56.000 Thank you.

02:21:56.000 Really appreciate it.

02:21:56.000 Thank you.

02:21:57.000 Always.

02:21:57.000 We're going to do it again next October.

02:21:59.000 Yes, sir.

02:22:00.000 Pleasure.

02:22:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, thank you.

02:22:02.000 Good night.

The Joe Rogan Experience - October 24, 2016

Joe Rogan Experience #865 - Wim Hof

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