The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #871 - Brendan Schaub

00:00:06.000 Ah, and we're live.

00:00:08.000 Ooh, take a sip of that delicious coffee.

00:00:11.000 You got the best coffee, sir.

00:00:12.000 Oh, is that an Abakimi Fight Club? 0.99

00:00:13.000 Oh, it sure is.

00:00:14.000 Oh, wow.

00:00:15.000 You guys just have it on here, huh?

00:00:16.000 You guys have the same one as this K-Man coffee one?

00:00:18.000 Yeah, Tate's the one who hooked me up with those.

00:00:20.000 Oh.

00:00:20.000 There you go.

00:00:21.000 There you go.

00:00:22.000 Same mug.

00:00:23.000 We need to redo those.

00:00:25.000 So, did you hear there were some fights this weekend?

00:00:27.000 I mean, I breezed by them.

00:00:29.000 I saw the highlights.

00:00:30.000 I thought you brought me on to talk politics.

00:00:32.000 Let's talk politics.

00:00:33.000 Can we get into that?

00:00:34.000 Let's talk about Joe Stein.

00:00:36.000 Nobody's talking about politics these days.

00:00:38.000 Thank God.

00:00:39.000 It's an important thing.

00:00:40.000 We should bring it up.

00:00:41.000 Because it's not like...

00:00:43.000 I went on a few celebrities' Twitter pages and I was like...

00:00:46.000 People are freaking out.

00:00:47.000 They're not just freaking out.

00:00:49.000 They won't shut the fuck up about it.

00:00:51.000 Oh, it's non-stop.

00:00:52.000 Non-stop.

00:00:53.000 And half of it is almost like...

00:00:55.000 I think they want everyone to know that they're upset.

00:01:01.000 They want everyone to know that they're one of the upset people.

00:01:04.000 They're not one of the Make America Great Again people.

00:01:07.000 They promote that they're upset like I promote a live show.

00:01:10.000 They want people to know where they're at, where they stand on it.

00:01:13.000 This is one female comic and I go to her page every now and then. 0.80

00:01:16.000 I know it is.

00:01:17.000 I know it is.

00:01:18.000 And I just go, Jesus Christ.

00:01:21.000 Me too.

00:01:21.000 I almost want to send her a DM and be like, you gotta chill out.

00:01:24.000 Just relax.

00:01:24.000 You gotta chill out.

00:01:25.000 Well, did you see what is happening with Amy Schumer?

00:01:28.000 Oh, I did see that.

00:01:29.000 She's so anti-Trump.

00:01:30.000 But you can't make it that part of the act.

00:01:34.000 People are paying tickets and people are just walking out.

00:01:36.000 But she keeps harping on it.

00:01:39.000 Well, you know, there's two ways of looking at it.

00:01:41.000 There's one way that people say they have a voice.

00:01:44.000 And if they have a voice, they need to use that voice to get the word out.

00:01:50.000 Not at a comedy show, though.

00:01:51.000 Make me laugh, bitch. 1.00

00:01:53.000 I didn't mean to call her a bitch.

00:01:54.000 You're right.

00:01:55.000 But make me laugh.

00:01:56.000 You can call her a bitch. 1.00

00:01:58.000 She would call herself a bitch. 1.00

00:01:58.000 Yeah, you know what I'm saying though. 1.00

00:02:00.000 At least back in the day she would.

00:02:01.000 Yeah.

00:02:01.000 I mean, she's like way more, she's way more like political and feminist now than ever before.

00:02:07.000 If you go back to the old Amy Schumer that was on like Opie and Anthony, she wasn't into that at all.

00:02:10.000 She was like one of the guys.

00:02:12.000 That was like her selling point.

00:02:13.000 Maybe she got a little older and she's like, man, I want to talk about different stuff.

00:02:17.000 But that's not the platform for it, I don't think.

00:02:20.000 Well, if it is, you've got to be really funny.

00:02:23.000 If you have an anti-Donald Trump joke, that's fine.

00:02:26.000 But it's got to be funny.

00:02:30.000 There's no room for that.

00:02:32.000 It used to be that comics could have these rants where they made really important points inside of fun and it wouldn't be funny and people kind of accepted it.

00:02:40.000 But that's what a podcast is for.

00:02:42.000 Sure.

00:02:43.000 It's a new world.

00:02:44.000 We live in a new world.

00:02:45.000 I go to an action movie.

00:02:47.000 I don't go to an action movie to get a massage.

00:02:50.000 All of a sudden, when you're in the action movie, someone comes over and massages you.

00:02:53.000 You need to relax.

00:02:54.000 You need to be less tense because you're really concerned about this action film.

00:02:58.000 It's really not relevant.

00:02:59.000 Well, yeah.

00:03:00.000 It's like watching a porno.

00:03:01.000 I don't give a shit about the story.

00:03:03.000 I fast through.

00:03:04.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:03:04.000 I fast forward to the good stuff, man.

00:03:07.000 Some people do like the story.

00:03:09.000 Some people watch for the story.

00:03:11.000 They want these people to be in love before they fuck. 1.00

00:03:13.000 Or they want them to be escaping a bad relationship.

00:03:17.000 Mommy issues.

00:03:18.000 I don't know.

00:03:19.000 I'm just saying there's a place in time for it.

00:03:20.000 There is.

00:03:21.000 Do you see Dave Chappelle in Saturday Night Live?

00:03:22.000 Yeah, that was great.

00:03:23.000 That was great.

00:03:24.000 That was a good time for it.

00:03:25.000 Made a good point.

00:03:26.000 Yes.

00:03:26.000 But he's also supportive.

00:03:28.000 Exactly.

00:03:28.000 He's brilliant.

00:03:29.000 Dave's a master.

00:03:30.000 He's a master.

00:03:31.000 He's the best.

00:03:31.000 And he's also a very sincere person.

00:03:33.000 Like, one of the things that is driving me crazy about a lot of this tweeting and craziness, like, I was in New York City for the fights, and me and my friend Cam Haynes, we went to the gym.

00:03:45.000 And young Jamie was there too.

00:03:46.000 But you weren't with us when we were stuck in the...

00:03:49.000 In the swarm of humans, just me and Cam.

00:03:51.000 We got to the gym, no problem.

00:03:53.000 But on our way back, the protest had marched through the area that we walked through.

00:03:58.000 And all of a sudden, we couldn't go anywhere.

00:04:00.000 It was just jammed with people.

00:04:01.000 So you're literally shoulder to shoulder with people.

00:04:05.000 Everybody's touching everybody.

00:04:06.000 You had to deal with it.

00:04:07.000 There was nothing to do with it.

00:04:09.000 Which is one of the reasons why a fanny pack is so important, folks.

00:04:11.000 Because you keep your money in your front.

00:04:12.000 Okay, nobody's pickpocketing you.

00:04:14.000 Everything's zipped up.

00:04:15.000 My shirt goes over that.

00:04:16.000 I'm gonna know.

00:04:17.000 I'm gonna know.

00:04:18.000 To get there, it's gonna take some work.

00:04:20.000 Because pickpockets do go to those things.

00:04:22.000 You need to be aware if you're one of those super lefties that likes to go and demonstrate.

00:04:26.000 Might get your shit jacked.

00:04:28.000 So while we're walking, this one guy with this perfectly manicured beard, I'll never forget, he had a really nice like wool jacket on.

00:04:36.000 He was obviously like a wealthy liberal character.

00:04:40.000 And he's screaming out, I mean, screaming in my fucking ear.

00:04:44.000 He's right here.

00:04:45.000 He's touching me.

00:04:46.000 He's touching me with his shoulders.

00:04:48.000 Donald Trump!

00:04:50.000 KKK! Racist, sexist, anti-gay!

00:04:53.000 And he wouldn't stop.

00:04:55.000 He wouldn't stop.

00:04:56.000 And part of me wanted to go, hey man, could you just like, if you want to go in the protest, the protest is in the street.

00:05:02.000 Like, you're on the sidewalk.

00:05:04.000 This isn't the protest.

00:05:05.000 This isn't the lane, sir.

00:05:07.000 This is some non-committal shit you're doing here.

00:05:09.000 If you want to be out in there, he's doing drive-bys.

00:05:13.000 He's like a walk-by screaming protest.

00:05:15.000 But does it really do anything?

00:05:17.000 He saw a black guy in the distance.

00:05:18.000 I swear to God, he starts going, Black lives matter!

00:05:21.000 Black lives matter!

00:05:22.000 Oh, hell no.

00:05:22.000 Yes, he did.

00:05:23.000 He was so obvious.

00:05:24.000 He's just trying to get everybody to join him.

00:05:26.000 What my friend Michael Shermer likes to call virtue signaling.

00:05:30.000 That's what it is.

00:05:31.000 He's peacocking his virtue.

00:05:33.000 And just trying to get everybody to jump on board.

00:05:35.000 Let the world know.

00:05:39.000 There was a woman with a sign that said, rape Melania. 1.00

00:05:43.000 Jesus!

00:05:44.000 Yeah, and apparently that's a...

00:05:45.000 Think about writing that thing out.

00:05:47.000 Crazy.

00:05:47.000 Here we go.

00:05:48.000 It's a hashtag on Twitter now.

00:05:50.000 What?

00:05:51.000 Here's what's crazy.

00:05:52.000 Twitter allows that hashtag.

00:05:54.000 Twitter doesn't allow Hillary for prison. 1.00

00:05:58.000 What?

00:05:59.000 Check that.

00:06:00.000 Make sure that's correct.

00:06:00.000 How biased is that?

00:06:01.000 Make sure that's correct, because that's what I've been reading.

00:06:03.000 Jamie doesn't think he's buying it.

00:06:06.000 Well, you hashtag Hillary for prison, look if there's any tweets, and then hashtag...

00:06:11.000 That's ridiculous!

00:06:14.000 There's pictures of people with those signs.

00:06:16.000 I don't think it's just one person.

00:06:18.000 And there's a bunch of people who used it, who call themselves, like, as if somehow or another, if Donald Trump is a misogynist, somehow or another, the way to get him back is to rape his wife?

00:06:29.000 Or even to suggest raping his wife?

00:06:31.000 What kind of messages are you spreading if you're posting that and you're in a protest and you're making a sign of that bullshit?

00:06:37.000 It's fucking scary.

00:06:38.000 What does it say?

00:06:39.000 This is Hillary for prison. 1.00

00:06:41.000 I searched and there's a lot of stuff that pops up.

00:06:43.000 Okay.

00:06:44.000 Well, they might have banned it since, unless that's recent.

00:06:46.000 Maybe they banned it before.

00:06:47.000 Well, maybe this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, and I just read some nonsense.

00:06:51.000 Maybe I just read some nonsense.

00:06:53.000 I could have read some nonsense.

00:06:55.000 But all of it's nonsense.

00:06:57.000 All of it is just bullshit.

00:06:58.000 It's just bullshit.

00:07:00.000 There were so many angry, angry people.

00:07:04.000 Well, how many celebrities were like, if Trump wins, I'm out of here?

00:07:07.000 You ain't going nowhere.

00:07:09.000 Did you see the fucking signs that people have made, some artist made for, you know those benches, bus station benches where they have the billboard in the back of it for real estate sales?

00:07:19.000 Yeah.

00:07:19.000 It's a real estate sale, and it's all these people who said they were going to leave the country.

00:07:23.000 It's their face like one of them's Cher.

00:07:25.000 That's awesome.

00:07:26.000 I think Amy Schumer's got one of them, too.

00:07:28.000 Everyone says that.

00:07:29.000 You're not doing shit.

00:07:30.000 You're not going anywhere.

00:07:31.000 Amy said she was going to move to Spain, but she's a fucking comedian. 1.00

00:07:34.000 She's like, I guess I'm learning Spanish or something.

00:07:37.000 That's just what a comedian would say.

00:07:40.000 People freak out.

00:07:41.000 People are all mad.

00:07:42.000 But what she said is that you're just as disgusting as the people who voted.

00:07:48.000 The people who actually expect me to move are just as disgusting as the...

00:07:52.000 People who voted for that anti-gay woman hater or whatever she called them.

00:07:58.000 Series of insults.

00:08:00.000 She's just so upset and then obviously she's performing.

00:08:02.000 She's doing theaters or stadiums even. 0.82

00:08:05.000 Big ass places. 0.99

00:08:06.000 Big ass places. 0.99

00:08:07.000 Arenas.

00:08:07.000 Yeah, arenas.

00:08:08.000 I mean, she's killing it. 1.00

00:08:09.000 She's brilliant.

00:08:11.000 Moving to Canada at an election day sale.

00:08:14.000 Meanwhile, here's what you need to understand.

00:08:16.000 Those are great, by the way.

00:08:18.000 If you do wind up moving to Canada, when you move to Canada, you realize that Canada has a very similar immigration policy to what Donald Trump is proposing.

00:08:26.000 It's very strict.

00:08:27.000 It's very strict.

00:08:28.000 It's incredibly difficult to immigrate to Canada.

00:08:32.000 You don't just do it like that.

00:08:33.000 You don't just go over there and all of a sudden you live there.

00:08:35.000 I mean, maybe if you're Amy Schumer and you got some cash.

00:08:38.000 Maybe.

00:08:38.000 It's still strict.

00:08:39.000 People don't realize how strict it is.

00:08:40.000 It's fucking strict.

00:08:41.000 Yeah, I'm just gonna go to Canada.

00:08:42.000 No, you ain't, bitch. 1.00

00:08:43.000 It's essentially very similar to what Donald Trump is proposing.

00:08:46.000 Like, here's the thing about Canada, and I love Canada, by the way.

00:08:49.000 Me too.

00:08:49.000 I'm a huge fan.

00:08:50.000 They're like some of my favorite people in the world.

00:08:52.000 When you go to Canada, if you have a drunk driving thing on your record, you can't get in.

00:08:58.000 They fucking send you home.

00:08:59.000 It happens all the time.

00:09:00.000 Yeah, it's a big deal with the UFC too, with American fighters.

00:09:04.000 If you have anything, the chance of you getting up there and getting cleared, because customs is strict as shit.

00:09:09.000 Yeah, Kevin James got into, you know, just a standard fist fight once when he was younger.

00:09:16.000 And I believe he was arrested, but no charges were filed and it was all dropped.

00:09:22.000 It was one of those, you know, there's a brawl and he was a part of it and he got arrested with a couple other people.

00:09:26.000 No big deal.

00:09:27.000 It's just something a young guy did.

00:09:29.000 He's up there to fucking do Just for Laughs, and they flag him for it.

00:09:33.000 Turned him around?

00:09:33.000 Yeah.

00:09:34.000 Damn!

00:09:35.000 Eddie Bravo went up there.

00:09:36.000 Eddie Bravo, legally, was carrying a gun.

00:09:39.000 Legally.

00:09:40.000 No, no, no, listen to me.

00:09:41.000 He was working for a cash-checking business.

00:09:43.000 This was way back in the day, before I even met him.

00:09:46.000 And Eddie used to have to carry around large sums of cash, and he had a license to carry a pistol because of that.

00:09:53.000 So he gets pulled over for speeding or something.

00:09:57.000 And he tells the cop, he goes, hey man, just so you know, I work for a check cashing company, and I carry large sums of cash, and I have a pistol, and it's loaded, and it's in the car.

00:10:07.000 And the guy goes, okay, well, step out of the car, give me all your paperwork, and I'm gonna have to handcuff you while we check this out.

00:10:12.000 So they check it out, they go, yep, you're all good.

00:10:14.000 They let him go.

00:10:15.000 So nothing, right?

00:10:16.000 No charges.

00:10:17.000 They're carrying the pistol legally.

00:10:18.000 Every time he goes to Canada, it comes up.

00:10:20.000 Damn!

00:10:21.000 Dude, it got so bad that when we would go to Canada, I would ditch him.

00:10:24.000 I would ditch him.

00:10:25.000 I'll see you in there, man.

00:10:26.000 I didn't want to get pulled into immigration if I said I was with him.

00:10:28.000 Hell no.

00:10:28.000 If I said I was with him, they'd pull me into immigration, too.

00:10:31.000 You might miss the show.

00:10:32.000 Dude, I got stuck there for a fucking hour and a half once.

00:10:34.000 They might not let his ass in because the conspiracy is like, we just can't.

00:10:38.000 Tower 7. We just can't, sir.

00:10:40.000 Tower 7. At our live shows, we keep getting...

00:10:44.000 So, do you and Eddie hate each other?

00:10:46.000 How's it work?

00:10:46.000 I'm like, get out of here.

00:10:47.000 I love Eddie.

00:10:48.000 And then someone started literally a chant.

00:10:50.000 Tower 7. Tower 7. It's so weird.

00:10:54.000 Did you see that fucking meme with Tony Ferguson when Tony Ferguson beat Rafael dos Anjos?

00:10:59.000 Eddie Bravo was saying something.

00:11:00.000 It's like when your boy just wins his fight, but you have some new information about Tower 7. And he's all up in his ear.

00:11:07.000 It's so weird.

00:11:09.000 Whoever made that is brilliant.

00:11:10.000 There it is.

00:11:11.000 I fucking love Eddie.

00:11:13.000 Me too, man.

00:11:14.000 It's so hilarious.

00:11:15.000 Eddie's my brother.

00:11:16.000 Anybody that thinks I don't love Eddie, you're crazy.

00:11:18.000 Oh, I agree.

00:11:18.000 Whatever nutty things that he believes that I don't believe, I don't give a fuck.

00:11:21.000 I love that dude.

00:11:22.000 No, I still love him too.

00:11:24.000 He's my friend.

00:11:24.000 He's just batshit crazy in his kind of way.

00:11:27.000 I still like that flavor that he's delivering.

00:11:29.000 He enjoys that shit.

00:11:31.000 He's so into it.

00:11:32.000 He loves it.

00:11:33.000 He'll send me texts nonstop about it.

00:11:35.000 Yes!

00:11:35.000 He sends us group texts!

00:11:36.000 Yes!

00:11:36.000 Did you see the latest one he's putting on Twitter about some...

00:11:39.000 It's grainy footage that looks like it was invented back when the fucking wheel was invented.

00:11:44.000 It's grainy footage of some guy talking about some sex parties they used to have with children used to...

00:11:50.000 I got one, bro.

00:11:51.000 Hiller's not Satan?

00:11:52.000 You don't really think she's Satan?

00:11:54.000 I don't, man.

00:11:55.000 I find it hard to believe, and it'll lash out at me.

00:11:58.000 I'm sorry.

00:11:59.000 Satanic cults.

00:12:00.000 When you see shit like Eyes Wide Shut, though, don't you want to know?

00:12:04.000 Like, you hear about the skull and bone stuff they used to do at Yale.

00:12:06.000 Yeah, that shit's real.

00:12:07.000 Yeah, like, that is real.

00:12:09.000 So, like, I wonder, like, if you grow up in the Hamptons or you live in, like, one of those crazy Connecticut towns where all those super billionaire hedge fund characters live and all their kids go to the private schools, they get sent to these big fucking universities and you get pledged to a fraternity because your dad was in it and,

00:12:26.000 you know, there's a lot of that shit going on.

00:12:28.000 Yeah, they're called the Skulls, right?

00:12:30.000 Skull and Bones.

00:12:31.000 Is it Bones?

00:12:31.000 I thought it was just the Skulls.

00:12:33.000 No, well, there probably is the Skulls too.

00:12:35.000 That might be a movie.

00:12:35.000 Yeah, well, maybe it is a movie.

00:12:36.000 They would never invite us into that stuff.

00:12:38.000 They just won't shut the fuck up. 0.84

00:12:40.000 We tell them anything, they're Chatty Cathy's.

00:12:43.000 Yeah.

00:12:43.000 You tell them anything, they just blast it on their shows.

00:12:45.000 Yeah, we would blast it.

00:12:45.000 We can't have them on there.

00:12:47.000 We would never.

00:12:47.000 No.

00:12:48.000 Anybody who thinks we're getting in on the Illuminati, I get accused of that so much because of the Flat Earth people.

00:12:54.000 The Flat Earth people believe I'm a paid shill.

00:12:57.000 I know, I get it too.

00:12:58.000 Oh, you're just going to leave the UFC and step right into that?

00:13:01.000 You don't think that's the Illuminati working?

00:13:04.000 You don't think he's part of it?

00:13:05.000 Rogan dragged him into it?

00:13:06.000 Yeah, man.

00:13:07.000 You don't think I would chat away on my show about it?

00:13:10.000 What would be hilarious is if there really was some sort of giant organization that was paying people off to lie about the earth being flat.

00:13:18.000 That would be amazing.

00:13:20.000 If we were able to keep it that hush-hush, if the world was flat this whole time and all these people that claim to be flying around it in a big circle, people have navigated the globe in a plane.

00:13:30.000 They've flown over it in a plane.

00:13:34.000 They're all in on it.

00:13:35.000 They're all getting paid.

00:13:36.000 Just everyone's in on it.

00:13:36.000 You go over to their house.

00:13:37.000 Ferrari, Manx, Disco.

00:13:39.000 Everybody's partying.

00:13:40.000 Like, where'd you get all this money?

00:13:41.000 Shut the fuck up, dude. 0.98

00:13:42.000 Shut up, bro.

00:13:42.000 Just from a boat going around the world?

00:13:45.000 Yeah, man.

00:13:45.000 It's all flat earth money.

00:13:47.000 Flat earth denial money. 0.81

00:13:48.000 It's huge.

00:13:50.000 This is the world Eddie Bravo lives in.

00:13:52.000 He hasn't quite gone flat Earth.

00:13:54.000 Flat Earth pulls him back.

00:13:55.000 He started messing with it a little bit, though.

00:13:57.000 He did.

00:13:58.000 But he went, dinosaurs aren't real.

00:13:59.000 Dinosaurs aren't real, and the moon is fake.

00:14:01.000 We've never been to the moon.

00:14:02.000 Well, not only that, all the footage of NASA, all the NASA footage is fake.

00:14:06.000 NASA's full of shit, and then the bands, all the bands, like the Beatles, the Doors, all that stuff.

00:14:11.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, they were made by the CIA. And right up here in Topanga Canyon.

00:14:14.000 The thing is, though, if you know Eddie, Eddie's a fun dude.

00:14:17.000 And half of this stuff is because he enjoys it.

00:14:20.000 He enjoys looking at conspiracies just like...

00:14:23.000 And look, some of them are true, right?

00:14:25.000 True.

00:14:25.000 That's the problem.

00:14:26.000 That's the problem.

00:14:27.000 That's the real problem.

00:14:28.000 Some are true, so he has an argument on some stuff.

00:14:31.000 But it's hard...

00:14:32.000 He's so balls deep in the conspiracies that it's hard for him to judge.

00:14:38.000 He's so balls deep that he's bent over like a clothespin and his ankles are in.

00:14:47.000 Yeah, he's all in.

00:14:48.000 What is this?

00:14:49.000 That's a nice tower.

00:14:50.000 Be ashamed if someone knocked it down.

00:14:52.000 Is this recently?

00:14:53.000 Yeah, he just posted it.

00:14:54.000 He's probably listening to us.

00:14:56.000 He's so hilarious.

00:14:57.000 He's so funny.

00:14:58.000 He's so crazy.

00:15:01.000 But the thing, too, he's passionate about it.

00:15:03.000 So people think when him and I discuss it, or any of us discuss it, you know, and he's so passionate, he's not arguing with, he's just like, like, if you really think something's true, you're like, come on, man!

00:15:15.000 That's Eddie.

00:15:17.000 Well, here's my take on a lot of this shit.

00:15:19.000 There is not that much time.

00:15:21.000 You don't have much time.

00:15:22.000 You have 24 hours in a day and you gotta sleep for 8. So that's not a lot of time for me.

00:15:27.000 And if I go down these goddamn fucking rabbit holes, that shit will take forever.

00:15:31.000 I've done it with legitimate things.

00:15:35.000 I've done it with, you know, like archaeological fucking discoveries, where I'll just start reading up on some crazy temple that they found in Cambodia, and two and a half hours later, I'm researching this, and I'm like, God, I got shit to do!

00:15:50.000 I got shit to do!

00:15:51.000 So, like, for me to do that about ghosts?

00:15:55.000 That's basically what some of these conspiracy theories are.

00:15:57.000 You just don't.

00:15:59.000 I also just, I mean, what am I going to do?

00:16:01.000 What am I going to find something on the internet and no one else is found?

00:16:04.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:16:05.000 Like I'm fucking Nicklaus Cage from National Treasure.

00:16:08.000 Like I'm not going to go on this weird escapade finding something no one else knows.

00:16:12.000 And I can just ask Eddie because he is a fucking double black belt in conspiracy theories. 1.00

00:16:17.000 He makes you watch YouTube videos though.

00:16:19.000 He tried to get us to do one during the last Fight Companion.

00:16:22.000 He tried to put one on.

00:16:22.000 Dude, it's only five minutes.

00:16:24.000 Five minutes?

00:16:24.000 I can't.

00:16:25.000 Five minutes during a live podcast?

00:16:27.000 I can't do it.

00:16:28.000 I can't do it.

00:16:29.000 I don't have it in me.

00:16:30.000 I don't have it in me.

00:16:31.000 I forget what that one was about.

00:16:33.000 Something about money or something.

00:16:34.000 I don't know.

00:16:35.000 Or Tower 7 or something.

00:16:36.000 He loves it.

00:16:36.000 He does.

00:16:37.000 It's a sport to him.

00:16:39.000 But, you know.

00:16:39.000 It's what he's into.

00:16:40.000 Yeah.

00:16:41.000 I don't have time anymore.

00:16:43.000 And people go, oh, you fucking sell out now, bro.

00:16:45.000 Fucking sell out.

00:16:46.000 Sell out?

00:16:47.000 Well, no, sir, no.

00:16:49.000 If you solve the Kennedy assassination, it will not help your life.

00:16:52.000 But it's also not on the internet.

00:16:53.000 I hate to tell you that.

00:16:54.000 It's probably not in some chat room you're in.

00:16:55.000 It might be on YouTube.

00:16:57.000 You just gotta find the video.

00:16:58.000 You just gotta go down deep enough, you're gonna...

00:17:01.000 About 600 views so far, but if we can get it out there...

00:17:06.000 Someone sent me a fucking three-hour one just two days ago.

00:17:09.000 Well, simply too long.

00:17:10.000 Three-hour Kennedy assassination one.

00:17:11.000 I'm like, I don't, I can't.

00:17:12.000 Simply too long.

00:17:13.000 Can't do it anymore.

00:17:14.000 Can't do it.

00:17:15.000 And if they do figure it out, it would be interesting.

00:17:17.000 But I don't see how they could.

00:17:19.000 I think they're never going to get past where they're at right now.

00:17:22.000 There's like some evidence.

00:17:24.000 There's some non-evidence.

00:17:25.000 There's some speculation.

00:17:27.000 There's some, there's that Zapruder footage.

00:17:29.000 There's some shit.

00:17:30.000 But is there any expert like actually open the case back up?

00:17:33.000 Like do they really give a shit?

00:17:34.000 They can't.

00:17:35.000 There's not enough evidence right now, like current physical evidence.

00:17:38.000 Yeah, so it's not happening.

00:17:40.000 It's over.

00:17:41.000 Yeah, they wouldn't do it anyway, because who are you going to try?

00:17:43.000 But also, who gives a shit?

00:17:44.000 He's dead.

00:17:45.000 Yeah, everyone's dead.

00:17:46.000 Yeah, what are you going to do?

00:17:47.000 Yeah.

00:17:47.000 What are you going to do?

00:17:48.000 Alright, still doesn't bring him back.

00:17:50.000 It's all so fucking weird.

00:17:52.000 Because we know the government does a bunch of fucked up things.

00:17:55.000 We know they do.

00:17:56.000 But it's spending time trying to figure it out.

00:18:00.000 That's what I was thinking when I saw Trump sitting next to Obama.

00:18:02.000 I wonder if Obama told him how much work he has to actually do.

00:18:06.000 That's why he looks so fucked up.

00:18:08.000 Because Trump was sitting next to Obama and he looked like, Jesus Christ.

00:18:12.000 He looked like, he was like, what?

00:18:14.000 I think it hit him during that meeting.

00:18:18.000 Obama's like, this is my daily life.

00:18:20.000 Here you go.

00:18:21.000 And he's like, holy...

00:18:22.000 Look at him.

00:18:23.000 This is what it says.

00:18:24.000 Trump reportedly surprised at scope of new presidential duties.

00:18:28.000 Surprised at scope?

00:18:29.000 God damn it.

00:18:30.000 That's hilarious.

00:18:31.000 Well, it's like you have a hundred jobs.

00:18:33.000 There's a reason why they age so hard.

00:18:36.000 One man shouldn't be responsible for it.

00:18:38.000 I mean, I think you've spoke about it before, but to have one guy with that much power and to have all that on his pressure, it should be a committee of just straight geniuses that figure it out.

00:18:49.000 Well, man, if you want to look at the bright cloud If there's any bright cloud about Donald Trump being in office is that he doesn't he's an outsider a complete outsider He's not a politics guy and so we'll get to see just by watching them like sort of duke it out what shape they take You know we'll get to see like what what what's what's we'll get a better view of the mechanism behind the machine than if Hillary Clinton was in office Don't you think with I think people are gonna be surprised at how little power

00:19:19.000 he's actually the president actually has probably Because they think he's going to do all this crazy stuff.

00:19:24.000 And then people are going to be like, nah, bitch, it doesn't work like that. 0.99

00:19:26.000 You have to jump through all these holes, the House of Lake State, all this stuff.

00:19:29.000 Yeah, well, that's what's going to be interesting, too, is to hear him talk and complain about that and see what happens.

00:19:33.000 And it's going to be interesting.

00:19:34.000 We've got a culture battle going on right now, too.

00:19:37.000 Like all those people marching down the street screaming, not my president.

00:19:40.000 Not my president.

00:19:41.000 Well, he is.

00:19:42.000 He is, though.

00:19:43.000 I hate to tell you guys.

00:19:44.000 He is.

00:19:44.000 Well, he's the.

00:19:45.000 The president doesn't become yours, so it's not yours. 0.61

00:19:49.000 Well, if you live in the United States, though, he's the president of the United States.

00:19:52.000 Look at me.

00:19:53.000 Do you say my president?

00:19:54.000 Do you say my president?

00:19:55.000 I do.

00:19:56.000 You do?

00:19:56.000 No, I don't.

00:19:57.000 My president, Trump.

00:19:58.000 I say the president.

00:19:59.000 Yeah, he's the president.

00:20:00.000 Yeah.

00:20:00.000 Not my president.

00:20:01.000 I live in a whole new world of my own.

00:20:04.000 It is weird.

00:20:05.000 Yeah.

00:20:06.000 What?

00:20:07.000 I don't know, man.

00:20:08.000 It's probably, look, I think this is what I've been saying, that we go like this and we go like that.

00:20:12.000 We go right and we go left.

00:20:13.000 And this is how people always have, when they go back and forth.

00:20:16.000 The country goes back and forth.

00:20:17.000 We try it one way, we don't like it.

00:20:19.000 They said he was supposed to be at UFC 205. Well, his son was there.

00:20:23.000 Which one?

00:20:24.000 Donald Trump Jr. God, they're not going to win any awards for good looks, are they?

00:20:27.000 They're not a bad looking guy.

00:20:28.000 Really?

00:20:29.000 The youngest, youngest one or the one who's like killing it?

00:20:31.000 There's one who's balling.

00:20:32.000 The one who's got the hair slicked back.

00:20:34.000 Darker hair.

00:20:36.000 I'd have to see him.

00:20:38.000 He's a nice dude.

00:20:39.000 Is it?

00:20:39.000 Was he cool?

00:20:40.000 He's...

00:20:40.000 I've been...

00:20:41.000 Actually, I knew him from a while ago.

00:20:43.000 He's friends with a friend of mine.

00:20:45.000 Oh, really?

00:20:45.000 Yeah.

00:20:46.000 So the family's going to have to take over his other business adventures while he's president.

00:20:50.000 Yeah.

00:20:51.000 How about that?

00:20:51.000 The whole thing is so crazy.

00:20:53.000 So weird.

00:20:53.000 It's so crazy.

00:20:54.000 Looking at him up there, it's so crazy.

00:20:56.000 Then how many of them are going to live in the White House?

00:20:58.000 Do they know?

00:20:59.000 I don't know.

00:21:00.000 Isn't it weird?

00:21:01.000 Yeah.

00:21:02.000 Like, could all of them live if they want?

00:21:04.000 Or is there like a cap?

00:21:05.000 Like, dude, you can only bring two.

00:21:06.000 You can't be up in there.

00:21:07.000 Do you know who I fucking love?

00:21:09.000 Who is that sheriff?

00:21:10.000 That black sheriff that wears the cowboy hat everywhere? 0.99

00:21:13.000 Sheriff, uh...

00:21:14.000 What the hell is his goddamn name?

00:21:15.000 The one out of Dallas?

00:21:17.000 I think he is.

00:21:19.000 We're speaking about the same dude?

00:21:21.000 When the Dallas shooting happened?

00:21:23.000 Yes, yes.

00:21:24.000 Something, Clark?

00:21:25.000 Is his name Clark?

00:21:26.000 I think he retired.

00:21:28.000 Did he?

00:21:28.000 Well, he didn't retire from, like, Fox News.

00:21:31.000 The dude's always on the Fox News.

00:21:33.000 Maybe.

00:21:34.000 Here, I'll find him, because I just started...

00:21:35.000 What is it?

00:21:39.000 David Clark.

00:21:40.000 His name's David Clark, bro.

00:21:41.000 Sheriff David Clark.

00:21:42.000 Eric Holder is the Attorney General, you fuck.

00:21:45.000 You non-American. 1.00

00:21:47.000 Very anti-American.

00:21:48.000 How do you not know that?

00:21:49.000 You don't know who Eric Holder is?

00:21:50.000 How dare you?

00:21:51.000 I like to do that when I know someone who other people don't know.

00:21:54.000 I go, how the fuck do you not know that, bro?

00:21:57.000 Yeah, he's a fucking character, that guy.

00:21:59.000 They say he wears a cowboy hat in honor of his family members of Dallas Cowboy.

00:22:04.000 So he wears a Dallas Cowboy hat everywhere?

00:22:06.000 He wears an actual cowboy hat.

00:22:08.000 That's aggressive, sir.

00:22:11.000 There's a crazy picture that he posted of Donald Trump winning the Ellis Island Award in 1989, standing next to Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks.

00:22:22.000 Damn.

00:22:22.000 It was an award for contributing to the conditions of inner-city black youths standing alongside Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks.

00:22:29.000 No one talks about that.

00:22:31.000 Yeah.

00:22:31.000 Well, what doesn't help Trump is, like, the head of KK was like, we basically got him in there.

00:22:37.000 Like, we support him.

00:22:38.000 We're the reason he got in there.

00:22:39.000 He had to come out and be like, I'm not cool with that KKK stuff, man.

00:22:43.000 Like, that's not me.

00:22:44.000 Donald Trump!

00:22:45.000 KKK! Racist, sexist, anti-K! It's kind of catchy, though. 1.00

00:22:51.000 I wanted to tell him, man, go out into the street, but I was worried.

00:22:54.000 I was literally worried.

00:22:55.000 Dude, get the fuck in the street. 1.00

00:22:55.000 That if I said it, he'd be like, you fucking racist! 1.00

00:22:58.000 You're a Trump supporter!

00:22:59.000 His vitriol was so intense.

00:23:01.000 And then they're going to jump all up on you.

00:23:04.000 And then someone's going to be like, Joe Rogan!

00:23:06.000 No, I'd say just go to the...

00:23:07.000 Come on, man.

00:23:08.000 Go over there.

00:23:08.000 Get over there, man.

00:23:09.000 Let me do my thing.

00:23:10.000 Everybody's actually protesting.

00:23:12.000 Don't make me get Cam Haynes get his fucking bone hair out and start fucking murking people.

00:23:16.000 We didn't be able to draw back.

00:23:17.000 Back up, son.

00:23:18.000 There was no room to draw.

00:23:19.000 It was just, it was so crazy how many people were there.

00:23:22.000 It was just strange.

00:23:23.000 Just to protest thousands of people.

00:23:24.000 New York's busy as it is.

00:23:26.000 But it's, you know, the cops broke it up.

00:23:29.000 The cops were screaming and shit.

00:23:30.000 So it was like that being there at the weekends were the biggest fights in history.

00:23:34.000 All of it was just so crazy.

00:23:37.000 That was a nutty scene, man.

00:23:39.000 Being there in the weigh-ins felt surreal.

00:23:42.000 It felt really surreal.

00:23:43.000 Just like finally it happened?

00:23:44.000 Yeah, it was crazy.

00:23:46.000 The weight of the event was thick in the air.

00:23:49.000 It had this feel to it that was very different than any other show we'd ever put together.

00:23:53.000 I wish I was that.

00:23:53.000 That's the one show I wish I was that because it's so special.

00:23:56.000 It's gonna be tough to beat that, but...

00:23:58.000 It'll never be.

00:23:59.000 I mean, you'll have big giant events for sure, but it'll never be like that because that was the last block of corruption.

00:24:05.000 Correct.

00:24:05.000 That was standing in front of the UFC getting into New York.

00:24:08.000 I got a little worried when I saw, where was I? I think I was in Atlanta doing a live show, but I saw on Twitter the crazy press conference with Conor doing that stuff.

00:24:18.000 I'm like, no, I'm not.

00:24:19.000 And it was kind of weird.

00:24:20.000 I was like, well, it seems a little gimmicky, blah, blah, blah.

00:24:23.000 And then the weigh-ins, he looked a little more serious.

00:24:25.000 And then the night of the fights, I was like, I mean, you couldn't have written a better show.

00:24:30.000 I mean, the fights, the night, the way everything happened, it was amazing, man.

00:24:35.000 By far, the best UFC I've ever seen.

00:24:38.000 By far.

00:24:39.000 The main event was almost, it was almost bizarre.

00:24:44.000 It's almost bizarre how good Conor is.

00:24:46.000 Right?

00:24:46.000 Almost bizarre.

00:24:47.000 The way he picked apart Eddie Alvarez.

00:24:49.000 Almost bizarre.

00:24:51.000 Like magical.

00:24:52.000 That's almost the word I want to use.

00:24:54.000 Correct.

00:24:54.000 Like he touches motherfuckers with that left hand.

00:24:57.000 Have you ever seen Eddie Alvarez?

00:24:59.000 They didn't even look like they were on the same planet.

00:25:02.000 One guy looked like he was from Mars.

00:25:04.000 The other guy looked like he was just a normal dude trying to figure it out.

00:25:07.000 Well, it looked like Eddie, the moment he got hit, was like, what the fuck?

00:25:11.000 You could see on his face, he was like, holy bejesus, what am I doing here?

00:25:15.000 And then he goes, well, alright, he's not very good at wrestling.

00:25:17.000 Let me try this wrestling. 0.99

00:25:18.000 Connor's like, that was your shot?

00:25:20.000 Oh, bro, you're in for a long night.

00:25:22.000 I think Eddie realized, like, holy fuck.

00:25:24.000 Well, he's already touched up a little bit when he finally went in for the shot.

00:25:27.000 And I just think Connor knew then also that he had him.

00:25:32.000 And how calm was he?

00:25:33.000 Ridiculously.

00:25:33.000 Just calm, upright, and just waiting.

00:25:36.000 And then the accuracy of that combo that finally finished Eddie...

00:25:40.000 That's what I think makes Conor so special is his accuracy when he throws punches.

00:25:44.000 Eddie's moving as he's landing this stuff.

00:25:47.000 I've never seen anything like...

00:25:48.000 Like you said, it was straight-up magical.

00:25:50.000 I'm like, all right, well, we've never seen a guy like this.

00:25:52.000 We just haven't.

00:25:53.000 I don't know if we ever will, either.

00:25:54.000 It's really interesting, too, when I was interviewing him.

00:25:56.000 He's like, you've got to have some attributes if you want to beat me.

00:25:59.000 You've got to be tall.

00:25:59.000 You've got to be big.

00:26:00.000 Give me these guys my size.

00:26:03.000 What he's doing, though, it's so...

00:26:06.000 He's a once-in-a-lifetime guy.

00:26:08.000 Because he's setting the ceiling.

00:26:10.000 There's no boundaries for him.

00:26:12.000 He's just like, I'll fight Nate at 70. I'll 45, sure, I'll merc Aldo in 13 seconds.

00:26:19.000 And I'll come to 55. We've never seen this kind of creativity.

00:26:23.000 And we've also never seen the UFC allow someone to do this either.

00:26:26.000 Yeah, well, he's just such a unique personality.

00:26:28.000 It's undeniable.

00:26:29.000 But also his style.

00:26:30.000 In a lot of ways...

00:26:32.000 He kind of does a lot of like what Wonderboy does, but with less kicks.

00:26:38.000 Like he throws kicks to the body.

00:26:39.000 He'll throw like some front kicks.

00:26:40.000 I mean, you know, like maybe 70% as many kicks.

00:26:43.000 Wonderboy is a little more kick heavy, but it's that sideways style.

00:26:48.000 But I think he does it better.

00:26:50.000 Like there's maybe something about the focus of the shots that he's landing, the precision of them.

00:26:57.000 Because Wonderboy very rarely touches somebody up like that with a punch.

00:27:01.000 He just doesn't have that kind of power.

00:27:03.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:27:03.000 I think Wonderboy is better at surprising guys with his kicks and his angles, but Conor sets it up and he's landing combos that are all so precise and this power.

00:27:13.000 Like he's touching dudes and you can see it on their face.

00:27:16.000 He touched Eddie and Eddie's like, what the f- Well, not only that, he's hitting them in a surprise way, and he's not telegraphing it at all.

00:27:24.000 His ability to go from bouncing around to launching that shot is so quick.

00:27:31.000 It's so precise, and it's so focused, and there's no fat in his movements.

00:27:37.000 It's just...

00:27:38.000 Yeah, and they said there was going to be a big announcement afterwards, and obviously his girl's pregnant, which, I mean, it's a personal big announcement for him, but I think he said he's going to take time off and he wants a piece of the pie, he wants a piece of WME and what they're doing now, which is hilarious,

00:27:54.000 right?

00:27:54.000 I love it!

00:27:55.000 Me too, I love it, and he's the first fighter ever that can talk like this.

00:27:59.000 How old is he?

00:28:01.000 Was Connor 26?

00:28:03.000 Maybe 27, 26?

00:28:08.000 28. I think he's a smart guy, too.

00:28:11.000 I mean, I would hope, at least.

00:28:12.000 I don't see him fighting deep into his 30s.

00:28:15.000 No, especially the way he talks, because he goes, now that I have a kid, I know what I bring to the table.

00:28:19.000 I want to be set financially for the rest of my life.

00:28:21.000 If you guys want me to fight again, I'm going to need to be set for the rest of my life.

00:28:24.000 I want a part of this pie.

00:28:26.000 And his next fight, and it's going to be such a fight, is with WME. It's not with anyone out there.

00:28:32.000 If you think he's fighting Ferguson or Khabib next, you're batshit crazy.

00:28:35.000 That's not happened for a very long time.

00:28:37.000 Maybe.

00:28:38.000 Maybe they work it out.

00:28:39.000 I don't think so.

00:28:40.000 I think the next fight, again, I don't know.

00:28:41.000 This is just me going off whatever the hell I think, Joe.

00:28:44.000 But I think his next fight would be Nate for the belt at 55. Because if you think, if you like Khabib and Tony, they're both deserving.

00:28:50.000 And we're MMA purists.

00:28:51.000 We're balls deep in MMA. We love it.

00:28:53.000 And one of those guys deserves it.

00:28:56.000 As far as numbers and a big pay-per-view, it would have to be Nate, I think.

00:28:59.000 Do you really think they would do Nate again?

00:29:01.000 100%.

00:29:01.000 I don't think Nate or Conor will fight unless that has to be the matchup.

00:29:07.000 I think Conor will fight someone else.

00:29:09.000 I think Conor might even fight Woodley.

00:29:12.000 I think you'd see a fight with Woodley before you see Khabib or Ferguson.

00:29:15.000 I think Khabib and Ferguson will fight each other before anything else.

00:29:17.000 Do you know how fucking crazy it would be if he decided to go up and fight Woodley?

00:29:21.000 Yeah.

00:29:22.000 It's so nuts.

00:29:23.000 Obviously, Willie has to get through Wonderboy again, but...

00:29:26.000 Does he?

00:29:26.000 He has to.

00:29:27.000 You think so?

00:29:28.000 Well, Dana said that's the immediate rematch.

00:29:31.000 Dana said a lot of shit. 1.00

00:29:32.000 He said Habib was fighting for the title.

00:29:34.000 That's a good point.

00:29:35.000 It was like, nah.

00:29:36.000 Me sure you're fighting for the title.

00:29:37.000 Nah.

00:29:37.000 Yeah, he does that all the time.

00:29:39.000 I don't think that means anything.

00:29:40.000 That's a good point.

00:29:41.000 I'm just going based off what your boy said.

00:29:43.000 He was like, that's the next rematch.

00:29:45.000 I can't put it on me.

00:29:46.000 Well, you're a friend than mine.

00:29:49.000 You've worked with him forever.

00:29:50.000 I'm a real good friend.

00:29:51.000 Yeah, I like Dana.

00:29:53.000 I just think you have a closer relationship, so I say you're a boy.

00:29:57.000 But he does say things and pulls back.

00:30:01.000 Woodley and that's there.

00:30:02.000 This is the other thing you've got to worry about, though.

00:30:04.000 You don't have to worry about it.

00:30:05.000 It's something to think about.

00:30:06.000 How much power are they going to give Conor?

00:30:08.000 45, 55, 70?

00:30:10.000 Just wraps up all these...

00:30:11.000 Dude, do you know how crazy that would be if he did it, though?

00:30:13.000 I say let him do it.

00:30:14.000 Let him try.

00:30:15.000 The UFC's going, we can't.

00:30:16.000 He's going to take this bitch over. 1.00

00:30:17.000 I bet Woodley will say it.

00:30:17.000 Woodley will say it.

00:30:18.000 Let him try.

00:30:18.000 Fuck yeah, Woodley will say it.

00:30:20.000 Let him try.

00:30:20.000 Woodley would love that.

00:30:22.000 Do you know how big Woodley looks compared to him?

00:30:25.000 Ginormous.

00:30:25.000 It's so bizarre looking at Woodley inside the octagon.

00:30:28.000 He's the most jacked dude, I think, other than Yoel Romero.

00:30:32.000 Yoel?

00:30:33.000 He's in there.

00:30:34.000 He's in there.

00:30:34.000 Oh, they're one and two.

00:30:36.000 Yeah.

00:30:36.000 One and two right now.

00:30:37.000 I think it's interchangeable.

00:30:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:30:39.000 It depends what you're into.

00:30:40.000 But Yoel flies through the air.

00:30:42.000 Yoel does backflips at the beginning of every fight.

00:30:45.000 At the beginning of every fight, he goes into the audience, or he goes into the cage, and he does back handsprings and literally launches himself through the air and lands on his feet.

00:30:53.000 Like it's the Olympics.

00:30:54.000 Yeah.

00:30:54.000 And it's a solid landing.

00:30:55.000 And he's 200 pounds.

00:30:56.000 Correct, sir.

00:30:57.000 And he's flying.

00:30:58.000 Flying.

00:30:59.000 He's the freakiest freak athlete ever.

00:31:00.000 And loves gay Jesus.

00:31:01.000 Yes.

00:31:02.000 Yeah, Jesus!

00:31:04.000 Michael Bisping, I love you!

00:31:07.000 I love you, Michael!

00:31:09.000 You do that to me! 0.68

00:31:11.000 I love you!

00:31:14.000 Someone needs to help him with his marketing, right?

00:31:17.000 Change a word.

00:31:19.000 No, but he lost so much fan support when he said, what did he say?

00:31:24.000 For the gay Jesus? 0.99

00:31:25.000 No, he didn't.

00:31:25.000 We thought he said gay Jesus, but he said, don't forget Jesus.

00:31:29.000 But his broken English was so bad, people went bad on him so fast.

00:31:33.000 They did.

00:31:34.000 And then he kept calling Bisping boy.

00:31:35.000 Yeah, I like that.

00:31:36.000 Well, it's okay, because he's a black guy.

00:31:38.000 I like that.

00:31:39.000 He's allowed.

00:31:40.000 If Bisping did that to him, we had some shit on our hands.

00:31:42.000 We had some shit on our hands.

00:31:43.000 Cannot say that to a man of color.

00:31:45.000 No!

00:31:47.000 He does talk like that.

00:31:48.000 Don't forget, Jesus!

00:31:49.000 He's so scary.

00:31:51.000 Poor Weidman.

00:31:52.000 In New York.

00:31:53.000 Hometown.

00:31:54.000 Needed a win.

00:31:55.000 Bad.

00:31:55.000 Getting no love in New York and then just a fucking knee from Cuba just to your dome piece.

00:32:02.000 Just flew.

00:32:03.000 Flew through the air.

00:32:04.000 And as he hit him, he was flying over him afterwards.

00:32:07.000 But that was insanely impressive, but you know what was almost as impressive as the way he took Weidman's back?

00:32:13.000 He tripped him.

00:32:14.000 They tied up together.

00:32:16.000 He trips Weidman, throws him to the ground, and then spins around behind him and takes his back.

00:32:21.000 How about the trip?

00:32:22.000 How about the world-class trip?

00:32:23.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:24.000 P-Rock Asher's trip. 0.52

00:32:25.000 No, no, no.

00:32:25.000 That's world-class level trip.

00:32:26.000 Weidman's an absolute monster.

00:32:28.000 Ridiculous.

00:32:28.000 And he was just...

00:32:29.000 He was throwing him around.

00:32:31.000 He was showing him the difference between a wrestler from the Olympics, a guy who medaled in every single world tournament he entered.

00:32:39.000 And built like a Ninja Turtle.

00:32:41.000 Dude, he's ridiculous.

00:32:42.000 You know, he has like a fused disc in his neck.

00:32:45.000 I would assume.

00:32:46.000 He had a serious injury in his neck, just like Weidman has.

00:32:49.000 But Weidman had a dissectomy.

00:32:50.000 Weidman had surgery.

00:32:52.000 He did.

00:32:52.000 So Yoel has a big scar in the back of his neck.

00:32:55.000 You can see it.

00:32:55.000 It's like a big slice.

00:32:56.000 It's all stitched up.

00:32:57.000 Just like Ving Rhames from Pulp Fiction.

00:33:00.000 Very different.

00:33:01.000 You know what I'm saying though.

00:33:02.000 Sin star, black guy. 1.00

00:33:04.000 Yeah, I've seen it before on other guys, but spinal surgery is fucking no joke, man.

00:33:10.000 I had Weidman win that fight until then.

00:33:12.000 He won the first round, but you thought he won the second round when Yoel was throwing him around?

00:33:17.000 Not winning, but I thought as the fight would go on, it would help Weidman.

00:33:21.000 I thought in the second round, Yoel started implementing his wrestling, and I thought he was running away with it.

00:33:27.000 So it would be 1-1, right?

00:33:28.000 Yes.

00:33:29.000 I thought it was 1-1.

00:33:30.000 Yes, 1-1.

00:33:31.000 But I thought it was shocking how good his wrestling was in comparison.

00:33:35.000 He doesn't show it.

00:33:37.000 Yeah, very rarely.

00:33:38.000 But when he does, dudes go flying.

00:33:41.000 I don't know why he doesn't use it more.

00:33:43.000 Because he's having fun.

00:33:44.000 Having a good time!

00:33:46.000 Dude, for real.

00:33:48.000 At first, when he was talking stuff to Bisping, I'm like, God, that's a terrible fight for Bisping.

00:33:52.000 God, that's terrible.

00:33:53.000 And then it hit me, I'm like, five rounds?

00:33:56.000 Bisping really doesn't initiate in that grappling, and he has cardio for days?

00:34:00.000 That's a tough fight to call.

00:34:02.000 At first, I was like, yeah.

00:34:03.000 Romero's gonna fucking destroy Bisping.

00:34:05.000 I'm like, not really though.

00:34:06.000 If you think about it, not really.

00:34:08.000 Who knows what could happen, but Dan Henderson caught Bisping twice bad in their last title fight at 45 years old or whatever it is.

00:34:17.000 He did catch him really, really bad.

00:34:18.000 He caught him bad.

00:34:19.000 And Dan Henderson, who is one of the most ruthless power strikers in the game, for sure.

00:34:23.000 And Bisping survived that.

00:34:25.000 So that's good for Bisping, that he was able to survive that.

00:34:29.000 You've got to think, Yoel Romero doesn't just have a right hand.

00:34:32.000 He flies.

00:34:34.000 He literally launches himself at you.

00:34:37.000 If he gets a hold of you, the wrestling ability...

00:34:39.000 You're going for a ride.

00:34:40.000 Dan Henderson's a silver medalist in the Olympics as well.

00:34:43.000 But it's...

00:34:44.000 Different.

00:34:44.000 It's different.

00:34:45.000 Different.

00:34:45.000 Especially Dan right now.

00:34:47.000 What's Dan, 48?

00:34:48.000 48?

00:34:48.000 I think he's 46 or 45. He's up there either way.

00:34:51.000 Yeah.

00:34:51.000 But Romero's basically, you know, in his prime as an MMA fighter.

00:34:55.000 Well, also, there's, like, the range of motion.

00:34:57.000 Yes.

00:34:57.000 Like, Dan's almost, like, locked up.

00:34:59.000 Some would say stiff.

00:35:00.000 Yeah, he's got...

00:35:01.000 But if he hits you, you're fucksville.

00:35:03.000 But he's, like, his range of motion's very limited, whereas Yoel is, like, a super athlete.

00:35:09.000 He doesn't have any limitations in his range of motion.

00:35:11.000 He's ridiculously flexible.

00:35:12.000 Like, he does, like, a half split before he fights.

00:35:16.000 He was, like, down there, like, stretching out.

00:35:17.000 You're, like...

00:35:18.000 This guy's range of motion is insane.

00:35:20.000 Those knees and the flying knees, though, a lot of it, especially with Weidman, came from Weidman going for that single leg.

00:35:26.000 He's like, go for it again and see what happens.

00:35:28.000 And where Bisping doesn't entertain the grappling at all.

00:35:31.000 That's true.

00:35:32.000 That's true.

00:35:32.000 And he stays on the outside and he also has that beast of a coach.

00:35:35.000 But right away, I was like, oh God, That sucks, because I love Bisping.

00:35:39.000 I'm like, God, that's a bad fight for him.

00:35:41.000 I was sitting there, I'm like, well, cardio, five rounds, if he can survive those first two, maybe three, Dragon Blade, water, it's a fun fight.

00:35:49.000 Definitely watch that bad boy.

00:35:51.000 I mean, it's hard to do MMA math, right?

00:35:54.000 MMA math doesn't work. 0.84

00:35:55.000 You can do style matchups, though, right?

00:35:56.000 Yeah.

00:35:57.000 But I was saying, like, Bisping lost to Tim Kennedy, Tim Kennedy lost to Yoel, but Tim Kennedy was beating Yoel.

00:36:04.000 Like, that's another thing that Yoel's Corner did, this fight that was fucked up, man. 0.75

00:36:09.000 They covered him with water.

00:36:10.000 They threw water on him while he was sitting there resting.

00:36:14.000 Between first and second?

00:36:15.000 Uh-huh.

00:36:15.000 They put an ice pack on him, and he poured water on himself.

00:36:19.000 He poured it on his legs, he poured it on his arms, he poured it all over him.

00:36:23.000 And they wiped him down.

00:36:24.000 I mean, he was trying to cool himself off, probably.

00:36:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:27.000 But you're not allowed to do that.

00:36:29.000 And they spent time wiping him down before the round started.

00:36:34.000 So, like, they wiped him down in between the corner, but then the referee stopped it and made them wipe him down more.

00:36:40.000 So he gets more rest.

00:36:42.000 Yeah, look, for sure they're aware when that happened with Tim Kennedy.

00:36:47.000 When Tim Kennedy had him fucked up at the end of that second round, he absolutely and on purpose stayed on that stool longer than he was supposed to.

00:36:54.000 Some would say it was a smart move.

00:36:55.000 Yes.

00:36:56.000 Obviously it ended up working in his favor.

00:36:57.000 It's smart if you're a cheater, if you're okay with cheating.

00:36:59.000 But it is cheating.

00:37:00.000 It's cheating.

00:37:01.000 100% it's cheating.

00:37:03.000 100%.

00:37:03.000 Tim should have won that fight.

00:37:05.000 And the referee should have probably stopped the fight, but I'm sure Big John didn't want the fight to end, didn't want to cheat everybody out of the fight, just wanted a guy to get back up.

00:37:12.000 But then you cheat Tim Kennedy who is the one person you don't want to cheat out of this.

00:37:17.000 And Tim is walking around like yelling while this is all going off.

00:37:20.000 Pissed.

00:37:20.000 Yeah.

00:37:21.000 The whole thing was a mess.

00:37:22.000 It was a mess.

00:37:22.000 That was a clusterfuck of a moment.

00:37:25.000 But it just shows you this guy has...

00:37:28.000 Massive amount of experience in international competition in wrestling and there's like a lot of shit that goes on in wrestling You know where you're you have to take advantage of whatever you can to win You know and the all these years of high-level competition on the international scene He's probably got a bunch of little tricks like that he could do to slow down the pace or give himself a little extra time and we in what people all what what's 15 20 seconds for 15,

00:37:52.000 20 seconds for a guy like Yo Romero to replenish...

00:37:55.000 Giant.

00:37:56.000 I mean, you're talking...

00:37:57.000 Giant.

00:37:58.000 Night and day difference for a guy like that.

00:37:59.000 And I think it was also 30 seconds for the Tim Kennedy fight, if I remember.

00:38:03.000 Maybe 23. I feel like it was longer than that.

00:38:05.000 I don't remember.

00:38:05.000 Talking about Stoolgate.

00:38:06.000 Yeah, Stoolgate.

00:38:08.000 But also then there's a psychological issue.

00:38:10.000 Because Kennedy now thinks the fight's over.

00:38:13.000 Is it not over?

00:38:15.000 Like, he doesn't know where he's at.

00:38:16.000 There's nothing worse than that.

00:38:17.000 When you think the fight's over and they're like, oh, no, no, no, back in, man.

00:38:20.000 Oh...

00:38:20.000 That's what always kills me about Glory, when they have that extra round.

00:38:23.000 We go one more round!

00:38:26.000 Imagine you get through three rounds of kickboxing, and then finally you're drinking water, you got your arms up, and referee says blah blah blah, and it's all a draw.

00:38:36.000 Well, think if you're Tyrone Woodley.

00:38:38.000 Think if you're Woodley.

00:38:39.000 Well, how about Bruce Buffer fucking it up, where he said it was a decision.

00:38:43.000 What was going on there?

00:38:44.000 Because you were like, whoa, whoa, everyone chill.

00:38:45.000 You were like, chill.

00:38:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:38:47.000 Well, here's what was going on.

00:38:48.000 First of all, Bruce said it wrong.

00:38:50.000 It was not a majority decision.

00:38:52.000 It was a majority draw.

00:38:53.000 Correct.

00:38:54.000 But they probably wrote it down wrong for him.

00:38:55.000 Look, New York does not do any MMA. They've never done MMA before.

00:38:59.000 No shit.

00:38:59.000 This is the first event, right?

00:39:00.000 That's why they pulled off Rashad, yeah.

00:39:02.000 Exactly.

00:39:03.000 So they do this thing where they tally up the scorecards, they give it to Bruce, and I guess it's said majority decision, Tyron Woodley.

00:39:11.000 They read two judges scored a draw, one judge scores it for Woodley, and Woodley retains the title, but it's supposed to be a majority draw.

00:39:18.000 Yes.

00:39:18.000 That's what the majority of people thought it was a draw.

00:39:20.000 So it's a majority draw.

00:39:21.000 So Bruce said it wrong.

00:39:23.000 Whether they gave it to him wrong, I don't know.

00:39:25.000 Real Steve Harvey moment.

00:39:26.000 Yes.

00:39:27.000 And then Tyron freaked out.

00:39:30.000 And then the audience booed.

00:39:31.000 The audience went crazy.

00:39:32.000 And I said, dude, you still have your title.

00:39:34.000 Just hold on.

00:39:35.000 And they wanted Bruce to say it again.

00:39:36.000 So Bruce says it again.

00:39:38.000 I was going to say it again onto the microphone.

00:39:39.000 But Bruce insisted he get the mic and he says it again.

00:39:42.000 So he says it again.

00:39:44.000 Because he wanted to correct the mistake.

00:39:46.000 So he says it again, and then I have to say that the audience is booing.

00:39:49.000 I'm like, this is the exact same score.

00:39:51.000 It's the exact same score.

00:39:52.000 It's just the wrong definition.

00:39:53.000 Just read wrong, yeah.

00:39:54.000 That's all.

00:39:55.000 I think it was probably pretty accurate, too.

00:39:57.000 I think it was right.

00:39:59.000 I think maybe...

00:40:01.000 With 10 seconds left, I looked at Brian and I went, I bet you anything.

00:40:04.000 It's crazy.

00:40:05.000 And I even tweeted out before this, and I went, I think it's a draw.

00:40:08.000 Brian goes, no, championship match.

00:40:09.000 I go, I feel like it's a draw.

00:40:10.000 I give that a 10-8, and then I scored the other rounds.

00:40:13.000 I forget how I scored them.

00:40:15.000 I think it's a draw.

00:40:16.000 Some people didn't give Woodley a 10-8 for the fourth round.

00:40:19.000 That's insane.

00:40:19.000 Because at the end of the round, Wonderboy was on top of him punching him.

00:40:23.000 That's insane.

00:40:24.000 Yeah, but I say, if anything, if he didn't do that, if Wonderboy didn't get out and wasn't on top, it might be a 10-7.

00:40:33.000 Because not only did he hurt him with big punches, then he almost choked the life out of him.

00:40:38.000 I mean, he had him in a deep guillotine.

00:40:40.000 And people are telling me that wasn't a good guillotine.

00:40:42.000 Like, you are out of your fucking mind.

00:40:45.000 You're insane.

00:40:46.000 Have a guy as strong as Woodley.

00:40:49.000 Let's say his position's a little off.

00:40:51.000 He's not to the side.

00:40:52.000 Let me just say that for the record.

00:40:53.000 And what round is it?

00:40:54.000 What round was that?

00:40:54.000 Third round.

00:40:55.000 Third round.

00:40:56.000 So your cardio already.

00:40:57.000 Fourth round.

00:40:57.000 Correct.

00:40:58.000 Fourth round.

00:40:59.000 You're already exhausted.

00:41:00.000 And you have that 170 pound monster around your neck.

00:41:04.000 And he's not 170. No, he's every bit of what?

00:41:07.000 Probably 200?

00:41:07.000 Probably 200 pounds.

00:41:08.000 Around there?

00:41:08.000 And, by the way, he's a brown belt.

00:41:10.000 He's a brown belt in jujitsu.

00:41:12.000 Do you think Tyron Woodley doesn't know how to choke people?

00:41:13.000 You're fucking crazy.

00:41:14.000 It was a very good choke.

00:41:16.000 And I was amazed.

00:41:17.000 Me too, man.

00:41:18.000 One of the things I was thinking was like, Wonderboy has a skinny ass neck.

00:41:21.000 And tiny head. 0.99

00:41:22.000 Yeah.

00:41:22.000 Smaller head than me.

00:41:23.000 And the small head thing is smaller head than me.

00:41:25.000 I have a tiny head.

00:41:26.000 That was what Woodley said.

00:41:27.000 Woodley said, well, I knew he had a little head.

00:41:30.000 Did he really?

00:41:31.000 I was like, oh shit.

00:41:31.000 I didn't even think about his head.

00:41:32.000 I was thinking about the size of his neck.

00:41:34.000 He has a slender neck, tiny head.

00:41:37.000 Isn't it amazing?

00:41:38.000 The human body can take that.

00:41:39.000 How did his head not rip off?

00:41:41.000 How did his neck not break?

00:41:43.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:41:44.000 Can you imagine if he won by broken neck?

00:41:46.000 I guarantee you, if he had that in the first round, he probably wouldn't be able to finish it.

00:41:50.000 I agree.

00:41:50.000 I shouldn't say I guarantee it.

00:41:51.000 Well, yeah, I see what you're saying.

00:41:53.000 Different story.

00:41:54.000 Yeah, different story.

00:41:55.000 How tough is Wonderboy, though?

00:41:56.000 Ridiculously tough.

00:41:57.000 And I know Wonderboy.

00:41:59.000 We have the same manager.

00:42:00.000 We've trained together a bunch.

00:42:02.000 Love the guy.

00:42:03.000 I've always, and this is just me, I've always questioned his toughness because he does come from a privileged family.

00:42:09.000 Like, they have this huge Taekwondo Academy in South Carolina, and he has a great home life, and his dad's his coach, and his brothers are studs.

00:42:15.000 Is it Taekwondo or just karate?

00:42:18.000 I'm not sure.

00:42:18.000 I think it's just karate.

00:42:20.000 Is it just karate?

00:42:21.000 Yeah, you're probably right, one of those.

00:42:23.000 But he has this huge school, you know what I'm saying, very successful.

00:42:26.000 Been to dinners with his dad and the whole family, like, God, this guy has everything going for him.

00:42:30.000 So when I see that, it's like, you know, it's the Calabasas kids thing.

00:42:33.000 The tough-skinned Calabasas isn't going to do shit in the UFC. It's just that when they're privileged like that.

00:42:38.000 So when the going gets rough, I've always kind of questioned Wonderboy, and I've never seen it, though.

00:42:43.000 Because the Matt Brown fight...

00:42:44.000 His last loss, and it was back and forth as a scrap.

00:42:47.000 I'm like, alright, whatever.

00:42:48.000 This fight, man, I was, and I was watching with fans, I was standing up clapping.

00:42:53.000 Like, what is going on right now, man?

00:42:55.000 What the fuck are you talking about?

00:42:57.000 It was a crazy fight.

00:42:58.000 And there was a lot interesting.

00:42:59.000 First of all, how fucking hard is Tyron Woodley hit?

00:43:02.000 Jesus Christ.

00:43:03.000 What in God's name?

00:43:05.000 Dude, he has one of the best straight right hands in the business.

00:43:08.000 And if it lands, I can't believe Wanda Boy didn't get knocked out. 1.00

00:43:11.000 Unbelievable.

00:43:11.000 Well, I mean, he's a guy who's fought in professional kickboxing.

00:43:14.000 He has a 57-0 combined kickboxing record, amateur and pro.

00:43:18.000 I guarantee he didn't fight anyone in that kickboxing circuit.

00:43:20.000 That punch is as hard as Iron Woodley.

00:43:22.000 And not with four-ounce gloves either.

00:43:23.000 Exactly.

00:43:24.000 That's the other big...

00:43:25.000 He can punch faster with those little gloves on, and it hurts more when it lands.

00:43:29.000 So let's say Dana does do the rematch. 1.00

00:43:32.000 They don't do Connor Woodley.

00:43:33.000 And they do do the rematch.

00:43:34.000 I was thinking about it.

00:43:35.000 Three titles!

00:43:36.000 Three titles!

00:43:37.000 But Woodley was a slight underdog.

00:43:43.000 And if you listen to Duke Rufus, who was talking about their game plan, I think he was talking about in the post-fight press conference, their game plan, and you even mentioned, you're like, I don't get why Tyrone is against the cage, and I didn't like it either.

00:43:55.000 I'm like, what's he doing?

00:43:56.000 He's getting murked.

00:43:57.000 That was their game plan.

00:43:58.000 Well, do you know he does that a lot?

00:43:59.000 Yes, he does that a lot, and Wonderboy's a counter-striker, so they wanted to bring him to Woodley.

00:44:04.000 That was their thinking, by him being against the Cade and do all that, and then get him to commit to take him down.

00:44:09.000 So it surprised Wonderboy a little bit, but in the rematch, I think it favors Wonderboy so much more, because now he knows Woodley's going to fight like He might not fight like that.

00:44:20.000 He might not fight like that, and this is my thinking here.

00:44:24.000 I think the ability to change and be more dynamic is in Wonderboy's favor.

00:44:30.000 Sort of.

00:44:31.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:44:32.000 Yeah, I mean in a way, but here's the thing.

00:44:34.000 Woodley only took him down once in the whole fight and mauled him once he got him to the ground.

00:44:38.000 Which is why Wonderboy didn't tee off.

00:44:40.000 What if Woodley decides to do that every fucking round?

00:44:44.000 You know, I don't know how much Wonderboy can stop Woodley from taking him down.

00:44:48.000 Woodley's so much bigger, so much stronger, and a way better wrestler.

00:44:51.000 Way better.

00:44:51.000 If Woodley takes him down like he took him down in the first round, I mean, that might have been the strategic error.

00:44:56.000 Because Woodley mauled him in the first round.

00:44:58.000 By the end of the round, his nose is fucked up, he's got a giant cut, he's leaking blood.

00:45:02.000 Correct.

00:45:03.000 And Woodley just held him down and dominated him on the ground.

00:45:06.000 So if he just does that in the round two, I mean, if he was able to do that instead of trying to stand and knock him out, he might have been able to stop him.

00:45:14.000 Correct, but the reason why he got that takedown is based off those kicks, and then Wonderboy stopped kicking.

00:45:20.000 Like, he wasn't looking for the knockout.

00:45:22.000 Does that make sense?

00:45:23.000 Like, he was so hesitant after that.

00:45:26.000 And I feel like the reason he got that was because of the kick, so I think Wonderboy can make changes, more of changes, to win the next fight.

00:45:33.000 Maybe.

00:45:34.000 Maybe.

00:45:35.000 Who knows?

00:45:35.000 But I'm saying as far as game plan-wise, I think it favors Wonderboy.

00:45:38.000 Yeah, but here's the thing.

00:45:39.000 Now that Tyron knows Wonderboy's timing and he's going to be able to rock him, he's going to have some serious confidence in launching that right hand.

00:45:47.000 But go ahead and move forward on Wonderboy and see what happens.

00:45:49.000 Yeah, but sometimes it works.

00:45:51.000 I mean, he's been able to take him down.

00:45:52.000 Other people have been able to take him down.

00:45:53.000 And when he gets him down, the difference in the grappling was pretty fucking evident to me.

00:45:59.000 Oh, it looked like a white belt versus, you know, just an experienced guy. 0.99

00:46:01.000 He's so much stronger, so much better at holding him in place.

00:46:04.000 I was like, man, if this fight goes this way, Woodley's going to run away with it.

00:46:07.000 That's what I thought after the first round.

00:46:09.000 Me too, me too.

00:46:10.000 He busted him open bad.

00:46:11.000 Bad, man.

00:46:12.000 And then when you're dealing with Wonderboy, you're dealing with that weird sideways stance and just popping that jab in his face.

00:46:20.000 Hands down.

00:46:21.000 He's a weird guy to spar with.

00:46:23.000 The other thing is, Wonderboy, he didn't let his hands go at all.

00:46:26.000 At all.

00:46:27.000 That left hand.

00:46:29.000 He's so good at going Southpaw traditionally.

00:46:31.000 He can go back and forth.

00:46:32.000 But it was all kicks for him.

00:46:34.000 Well, I think he was worried after that takedown and getting busted up of even opening up.

00:46:39.000 Getting taken down again.

00:46:41.000 But, you know, Tyron's a totally different animal, too.

00:46:43.000 He's a different animal than Johnny Hendricks.

00:46:45.000 Great athlete.

00:46:46.000 Yeah, and the Johnny Hendricks that Wonderboy faced, let's be honest, he's not the same guy.

00:46:51.000 Not even close.

00:46:51.000 He's just not.

00:46:52.000 No, I don't know.

00:46:53.000 He's not the same guy that knocked out John Fitch.

00:46:55.000 He's not the same guy that knocked out Martin Kampman.

00:46:57.000 He's just not the same guy.

00:46:58.000 No.

00:46:58.000 Just not.

00:46:58.000 No.

00:46:59.000 For whatever reason.

00:47:01.000 Speculate all you want, internet.

00:47:02.000 Yeah, for whatever reason.

00:47:03.000 Yeah, I mean, maybe it's motivation.

00:47:05.000 Maybe it's personal problems.

00:47:07.000 He changed camps.

00:47:07.000 Who knows?

00:47:07.000 He opened up a steak restaurant and then it went out of business.

00:47:10.000 Terrible idea.

00:47:11.000 But maybe he just...

00:47:12.000 Terrible.

00:47:12.000 Terrible idea, sir.

00:47:13.000 The worst?

00:47:14.000 If you're a celebrity and you got some cash, maybe the worst idea?

00:47:16.000 Yeah, restaurant's not the way to go.

00:47:17.000 Hey, I'm tired of being successful.

00:47:18.000 Just look at the numbers.

00:47:19.000 And happy.

00:47:20.000 I'd rather be stressed out and broke.

00:47:22.000 I hate money.

00:47:23.000 Do you have a restaurant I can invest in?

00:47:24.000 I mean, it's a terrible idea.

00:47:26.000 Even if they just put his name on it, he's still associated with that failure, and I'm sure he had to have some form of commitment to it.

00:47:31.000 I'm sure he got a sign while people were eating fucking T-bones for 30% off or something like that.

00:47:35.000 The Yahoo and Yelp reviews, rather, they were terrible.

00:47:40.000 Were they bad?

00:47:41.000 They were the worst.

00:47:42.000 It was like one star.

00:47:43.000 We can't be associated with that, man.

00:47:44.000 We can't.

00:47:45.000 If you want to open up a restaurant and you're a celebrity, good luck.

00:47:49.000 It should be a really small place.

00:47:51.000 Or be a silent investor.

00:47:54.000 Don't be the face of it.

00:47:56.000 There's a bunch of places like that in LA. 100%.

00:47:58.000 Yeah, a gang of them.

00:47:59.000 Like our boy Travis Barker, he owns Crossroads.

00:48:03.000 You don't see Mark and stuff like that, but it's like, and obviously not your cup of tea, but it's all vegan.

00:48:09.000 I heard it's good though.

00:48:10.000 It's like the number one place in LA as far as vegan goes.

00:48:12.000 They're killing it.

00:48:13.000 But you don't see him blasting out there like his face on the front of the restaurant, fucking playing the drums while they're serving up spring rolls.

00:48:19.000 Well, they were calling it the Big Rig Steakhouse.

00:48:22.000 God damn it!

00:48:23.000 Well, that's some Texas shit.

00:48:24.000 Yeah, it's Texas shit.

00:48:25.000 It might work in Texas, right?

00:48:27.000 Big Rig Steakhouse.

00:48:28.000 I might get a T-bone from Big Rig.

00:48:30.000 What if it was awesome?

00:48:31.000 It doesn't sound like it though, is it?

00:48:33.000 It was insane.

00:48:33.000 No, it doesn't.

00:48:34.000 Has that ever worked?

00:48:35.000 Well, I guess, you know, Elway did it.

00:48:37.000 John Elway did it.

00:48:38.000 Elway Steakhouse in Denver kills it.

00:48:40.000 Really?

00:48:40.000 That's a fine steak, though.

00:48:41.000 Ted has them.

00:48:43.000 Who's Ted?

00:48:44.000 Ted Turner.

00:48:44.000 Oh, yeah.

00:48:45.000 He's got those Ted's.

00:48:46.000 Yeah, true.

00:48:47.000 Shanahan's has it.

00:48:48.000 Bison meat and shit.

00:48:49.000 Yeah, it's a tough gig, man.

00:48:51.000 Tough.

00:48:51.000 Rocky did in the last one.

00:48:53.000 But it's also for an athlete, especially a fighter, where your mind, and first of all, you have this event that happens, and I don't have to tell you this, but for everybody listening, it takes months before the event, you're thinking about this event, you're preparing for the event, and then the event has one night.

00:49:08.000 Anything that can fuck your head up along the way should be avoided.

00:49:12.000 Yeah, you shouldn't be thinking about getting mass discounts on T-bones and filet.

00:49:16.000 You should be really worried about Wanderboy.

00:49:18.000 Anything.

00:49:19.000 Anything that can fuck you up.

00:49:20.000 You know, there's so many different things that can creep into your mind.

00:49:23.000 Well, I mean, great transition.

00:49:26.000 Look at Misha Tate.

00:49:27.000 Yeah.

00:49:27.000 And I'm not taking anything away from Pennington.

00:49:30.000 I thought she looked brilliant.

00:49:31.000 She did her job.

00:49:32.000 I thought that was a real bad matchup for Misha, honestly.

00:49:34.000 I think Pennington's super underrated.

00:49:36.000 She's underrated for sure.

00:49:37.000 I also think that version of Misha, and I... I just said, Misha doesn't look into it or something else is going on.

00:49:45.000 She's having an off night.

00:49:46.000 It didn't look like the normal Misha we're used to seeing. 1.00

00:49:49.000 And for Misha, for her to say, yeah, I'm done.

00:49:52.000 I couldn't hear it because, again, I was watching one of the live crowds.

00:49:54.000 But she retired, correct?

00:49:56.000 Yeah, she retired. 0.91

00:49:57.000 What'd she say?

00:49:58.000 She was just like, I'm out?

00:49:59.000 Yeah, she says, I just want to say I'm done.

00:50:01.000 I'm done.

00:50:01.000 And I said, was this based entirely on your performance?

00:50:04.000 Is this something you planned?

00:50:05.000 And she said, no, it was based on my performance.

00:50:07.000 And then she said that I've taken a lot of punishment.

00:50:11.000 That's fair, man.

00:50:12.000 For sure.

00:50:29.000 If you would have told her she'd been champ in the UFC, you know, after you've seen her fights with Ronda and these other fights, I'm sure she'd be like, you're full of shit.

00:50:36.000 And she just came back from this adversity.

00:50:38.000 Like, when she beat Holly... 0.98

00:50:40.000 Amazing.

00:50:41.000 Amazing, man.

00:50:42.000 And for her now, there's so much more for her to do.

00:50:45.000 This is why I'm proud of her and her getting out when she did, because I don't know if you've heard her break down fights as a female analyst.

00:50:51.000 She is so damn good.

00:50:53.000 It's ridiculous.

00:50:54.000 Well, she's very smart.

00:50:55.000 She's very smart.

00:50:56.000 She's very good at breaking down the fights. 0.99

00:50:58.000 As far as, not like Joe Rogan style, Brian Stan style, Dominic Cruz style.

00:51:02.000 She's good as an analyst. 0.88

00:51:05.000 When she's up there with Stan and Bisping and those guys.

00:51:08.000 Have you had her on your show?

00:51:09.000 We have not had her on your show.

00:51:11.000 I listened to her on your show and I thought she was brilliant.

00:51:13.000 She's got her own show now too.

00:51:14.000 She has her own podcast?

00:51:15.000 Yeah.

00:51:15.000 Well, she's already doing it the right way.

00:51:17.000 Yeah.

00:51:17.000 But I think for her, man, sky's the limit.

00:51:21.000 I really do.

00:51:21.000 I think you're right.

00:51:22.000 I think you're right.

00:51:22.000 And I think if she really...

00:51:23.000 I mean, everybody always says that.

00:51:25.000 If you have one foot out the door, you should just walk.

00:51:27.000 Just go.

00:51:28.000 There you go.

00:51:28.000 Here.

00:51:29.000 And that's why you sat me down.

00:51:32.000 Here!

00:51:32.000 You're like, excuse me, sir, you're telling dick jokes and trying to fight right now.

00:51:35.000 Well, it's one thing watching somebody who you don't love, who's just like, well, you know, or even you do love, you don't have that close of a relationship with, but as a friend, you know, you have a close friendship with someone, you see the path.

00:51:48.000 I mean, it's one of those things, man, you see it time and time again.

00:51:51.000 I can name you a hundred guys that I know that are kind of half in the game.

00:51:55.000 And they still do it and every now and then they get knocked out or they'll fight some Yair Rodriguez type motherfucker, some upcoming phenom and get lit up and all in.

00:52:04.000 Yeah, those all-in guys are fucking scary.

00:52:07.000 Yeah, and you know for me is the best thing that ever happened to me in my life, so.

00:52:10.000 Well, I think it's probably gonna be the best thing for Misha too and one of the things that I said to Misha was like, you know, you've already achieved the highest achievement ever in MMA. You were a world champion in the UFC. No one could ever take that from her.

00:52:21.000 She won it in spectacular fashion, and it was an amazing accomplishment.

00:52:25.000 That's a giant thing to have on your resume.

00:52:27.000 Former world champion.

00:52:29.000 And she's at the perfect time, just talking about it from the business side of things.

00:52:33.000 The UFC's contract with Fox is coming up.

00:52:37.000 So what they're going to do, from my understanding, is it's going to be on multiple...

00:52:43.000 So it's going to be like the NFL or NBA or whatever, these other sports leagues, which are not just tied to Fox, which opens up the door for ESPN, CBS, all these other networks.

00:52:53.000 So that opens up the door for all these other shows for her.

00:52:56.000 So if I'm Misha Tate, I don't sign with Fox right now.

00:53:01.000 Granted, she's the best female analyst in the game to me.

00:53:03.000 I think she waits till that deal goes and then feels all the offers.

00:53:07.000 And she has the time to do it.

00:53:08.000 She might, or UFC might offer her some sort of an in-house gig. 0.99

00:53:12.000 You know, who knows?

00:53:13.000 I could see that happening too.

00:53:14.000 And I'm saying don't do that.

00:53:14.000 Don't do that for her.

00:53:15.000 That former manager, don't do that.

00:53:16.000 Let him play the negotiating game and she has so many talents and no one's coming along like her who speaks or looks like her.

00:53:22.000 Yeah, isn't that happening with you guys?

00:53:23.000 Isn't there a network issue?

00:53:25.000 Yes, there is a network issue.

00:53:26.000 Some sort of an issue with you guys being on Fox?

00:53:28.000 Yeah.

00:53:29.000 Well, for us, it's just...

00:53:31.000 Brian goes, don't talk about that on Rogan.

00:53:35.000 And before, I'm like, we gotta talk about it.

00:53:36.000 Yeah, and you know me, I'm an open book, man.

00:53:39.000 I'm like, do what?

00:53:39.000 You don't have to talk about it if you don't want to.

00:53:41.000 No, I know.

00:53:42.000 We always talk about it.

00:53:43.000 For me, it's just...

00:53:44.000 You know, I'm always...

00:53:47.000 I'm always in the understanding of we don't need anybody.

00:53:50.000 And you've always said that.

00:53:51.000 And I think the Fire and the Kid fan base and what we've achieved has literally nothing to do with Fox.

00:53:58.000 You know, they gave us a studio and I'm grateful for that stuff, but we would be here with or without them.

00:54:04.000 A studio's not that big a deal.

00:54:06.000 You rent office space.

00:54:08.000 A lot of guys, we all know people that do it.

00:54:10.000 Tom and Christina do it.

00:54:11.000 Joey Diaz does it.

00:54:13.000 I do it.

00:54:14.000 A lot of people do it.

00:54:14.000 They just rent space.

00:54:15.000 Correct.

00:54:16.000 It's not hard to do.

00:54:16.000 No, and our biggest issue would be finding a good producer to help us like a young Jamie.

00:54:22.000 All you would have to do is put out the ad, throw the bat signal up online.

00:54:27.000 I'm sure this will fall.

00:54:27.000 Well, here's the bat signal.

00:54:28.000 Yeah, here's your bat signal.

00:54:30.000 Holla at Brendan Schaub on Twitter.

00:54:32.000 We're looking for one.

00:54:32.000 Yeah, I mean, if you find someone who knows how to handle the internet side of things, and I'm sure Jamie can help them.

00:54:38.000 What's going on today that's really interesting in podcasting, and we've kind of talked about this before, but is that the real network is the organic network between friends.

00:54:48.000 Correct.

00:54:48.000 It's between all of us, between Joey and Bill Burr and Bert Kreischer and Tom Segura.

00:54:53.000 We're all just a bunch of friends, and we talk about each other, and we have each other on, and everybody finds out about each other from each other, and we retweet each other, and re-Instagram each other, and support each other.

00:55:05.000 And that's like a real network, where there's no, like...

00:55:09.000 Deals going on there's no paper signed it's and then everybody's sort of benefiting from it equally Everybody gets something out of it, you know, that's a real network This other thing is a weird business where non-creative people capitalize on the work of creative people and they provide you with what a Fucking a series of walls and an internet connection.

00:55:29.000 Oh, thank you.

00:55:30.000 You definitely should get half the money.

00:55:32.000 You out of your fucking mind.

00:55:33.000 Yeah, that's exactly what I said It's just a different age now that we're going into.

00:55:39.000 We're in a good spot.

00:55:41.000 That's a good thing.

00:55:41.000 We're in a good spot.

00:55:43.000 We have offers from all these other networks and stuff like that.

00:55:46.000 That's all good.

00:55:47.000 The most important thing is just you guys love what you do and the show's fun.

00:55:51.000 That's the biggest thing.

00:55:52.000 And then people are going to still enjoy it.

00:55:54.000 So it's almost like think about it as little as you can, I guess.

00:55:57.000 For me, I see it as an opportunity.

00:56:00.000 Like when we were discussing it today, I was excited.

00:56:03.000 I'm like, oh, yes.

00:56:05.000 We gotta get our Joe Rogan on now.

00:56:07.000 Yeah, you gotta do that for sure.

00:56:09.000 A lot of guys have done that.

00:56:10.000 You know, my friend Dave Rubin, who was on last week, he had a similar situation.

00:56:13.000 He was with one network, he left that, he went with another network, and he was like, what the fuck am I doing?

00:56:18.000 And I told him, I'm like, dude, just be free.

00:56:20.000 Just get out there.

00:56:21.000 Well, I think what people don't realize is all the guests, the marketing, the merchandise.

00:56:26.000 I've hired our own booker.

00:56:28.000 We've had our own publisher.

00:56:29.000 It's all in-house.

00:56:31.000 It's all whatever I want to do with it.

00:56:33.000 We literally just show up to the studio.

00:56:35.000 Yeah, I can't imagine how they thought they'd get 50% of that.

00:56:37.000 It seems so crazy.

00:56:39.000 It's insane.

00:56:40.000 It's just, maybe they just don't know how much money it is?

00:56:43.000 They don't.

00:56:43.000 I was literally laughing.

00:56:45.000 Like, physically laughing.

00:56:46.000 Like, oh, you have...

00:56:47.000 How'd you guys resolve it?

00:56:48.000 How'd you end it?

00:56:49.000 Now it's off to the agents.

00:56:50.000 Oh, boy.

00:56:51.000 Call my agent, like, there you go, man.

00:56:52.000 First of all, they should have never brought you in in the first place.

00:56:55.000 All that stuff's supposed to be done with agents.

00:56:57.000 They're not supposed to bring you in and talk financials with you with no representation.

00:57:01.000 Correct.

00:57:01.000 However, I'm very, and if almost to a fault, I'm very in on, as far as the business side things go with Fire and the Kid.

00:57:10.000 Like, I want to be involved.

00:57:11.000 Now when it goes to negotiating, all right, you guys do that.

00:57:14.000 If you want to change the logo from a maroon to an orange, you better fucking go over it with me.

00:57:20.000 If you do something without me knowing, then we have issues.

00:57:23.000 Do they think they can do that kind of shit, though?

00:57:25.000 Do you think that they would start doing that if they...

00:57:26.000 They did it once, and I was like, what?

00:57:28.000 What did they do?

00:57:29.000 They changed something.

00:57:30.000 It was some logo.

00:57:31.000 They tweeted something out that I didn't approve.

00:57:34.000 And, you know, you can call me a control freak, but...

00:57:36.000 So this is like the network did that?

00:57:37.000 Fox did that?

00:57:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:57:38.000 Well, they have certain people run the accounts, you know?

00:57:42.000 So they just decided that they were going to do that?

00:57:43.000 I'm like, oh, what are you doing, man?

00:57:45.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:57:46.000 Well, you're in a weird gray area.

00:57:48.000 You have your own show.

00:57:49.000 You have a very limited amount of people that are in charge of that show.

00:57:53.000 But all these other people that are sort of used to, if they have a show, they get a say.

00:57:58.000 I remember when they were telling you not to swear.

00:58:00.000 Yeah.

00:58:01.000 That's why I told you guys to get free.

00:58:03.000 You've been saying that forever.

00:58:05.000 No swearing.

00:58:06.000 What?

00:58:06.000 I know.

00:58:07.000 It makes the audience almost think they're stupid or they can't handle the swear words.

00:58:12.000 People are getting upset.

00:58:13.000 It takes away everything that's great about the internet.

00:58:16.000 What's great about the internet is you can be yourself.

00:58:19.000 You can be yourself, but also what they don't realize, and again, it's just an old school way of thinking, they don't realize how big podcasting is getting because Whether I'm at Fox, I'm in Joe Rogan's bathroom doing the podcast, the listeners just want the audio.

00:58:34.000 You know, they just want the show.

00:58:35.000 They don't give a fuck who pushes it.

00:58:37.000 I got a little microphone that I hook up to this fucking thing, to my phone.

00:58:40.000 That's what Bill Burr does.

00:58:41.000 Dude, it's amazing.

00:58:42.000 He just goes off his iPhone like a maniac.

00:58:44.000 Dude, it's easy.

00:58:45.000 And it still works.

00:58:46.000 Marc Maron does that in his garage, for God's sakes.

00:58:48.000 That's a present in his garage.

00:58:49.000 Yeah, well, he's actually got a pretty sweet setup.

00:58:51.000 No, he really does, but you get the point.

00:58:53.000 Yeah, I'm going to try to find this shit in here.

00:58:55.000 I'm going to show you what this thing is.

00:58:56.000 Yeah, it's just a different kind of day and age of media, and we're in a good spot, man, so I'm happy.

00:59:02.000 Yeah, I just don't think that this...

00:59:06.000 I'll find it later, but anyway, it's a microphone.

00:59:09.000 It sits in here, and it has a built-in little tripod on it.

00:59:12.000 I think it's called an Apogee or something like that.

00:59:14.000 You ever use the Zoom mic?

00:59:16.000 Yeah, those are good.

00:59:17.000 Yeah, Brian and I started a Zoom mic in his garage.

00:59:20.000 Yeah.

00:59:23.000 It's just, you don't need much.

00:59:25.000 You don't need much.

00:59:26.000 I mean, obviously we're trying to go the frickin' JRE experience.

00:59:31.000 And then Jamie told me how much that goddamn mothership board is over there.

00:59:34.000 I'm like, you know what?

00:59:35.000 I'll probably see if I can get that at Goodwill or something like that.

00:59:38.000 Sweat this.

00:59:38.000 This little thing right there.

00:59:39.000 Sweat this!

00:59:40.000 See this little jammy?

00:59:41.000 This little microphone?

00:59:43.000 I take this little microphone, I screw it into here.

00:59:45.000 This little baby here is a little fuckin' tripod that it sits on.

00:59:48.000 It all comes in this little case.

00:59:50.000 I pop that sucker down.

00:59:51.000 You can set it up in a hotel room.

00:59:53.000 Damn, son.

00:59:53.000 That's what you did on the plane when you were with Dana and Tony?

00:59:56.000 No, on the plane with Dana and Tony, I didn't even have this yet.

00:59:58.000 Damn, the thing's dope. 0.98

01:00:00.000 Dude, it's the shit.

01:00:01.000 Wow.

01:00:01.000 You tighten it down.

01:00:02.000 What's it called?

01:00:03.000 It's called an Apogee or something like that.

01:00:05.000 I set that up, and it's a real live condenser microphone.

01:00:08.000 And it picks up all the voices clear?

01:00:10.000 It does it all through your phone.

01:00:11.000 That's really dope.

01:00:12.000 It's incredible.

01:00:13.000 That's really cool.

01:00:13.000 This is all you need.

01:00:14.000 Like, you don't need all this other shit.

01:00:16.000 We do all this other shit because even way, way, way back in the day, I was like, why wouldn't we have a visual element of it?

01:00:22.000 Why wouldn't we have, like, we were doing the streaming version of it even actually before we were doing anything else.

01:00:28.000 Visual's big, though.

01:00:29.000 On our YouTube, we need the visual aspect of it for sure.

01:00:32.000 Like, you can't downgrade now.

01:00:34.000 But also for us, it's just, um...

01:00:37.000 Yeah, you just want to continually get better.

01:00:41.000 Keep working, baby!

01:00:44.000 I can't believe they didn't fire us.

01:00:46.000 I've said some outlandish shit on that show.

01:00:49.000 I can't believe Fox is like, listen, we just can't have it.

01:00:52.000 I don't think they pay attention.

01:00:54.000 Yeah, they know the numbers.

01:00:55.000 They know the numbers.

01:00:55.000 That's one thing they do know.

01:00:56.000 Correct.

01:00:57.000 Because you're on their network.

01:00:58.000 Correct.

01:00:58.000 So they're like, Jesus.

01:00:59.000 Yeah, I know.

01:00:59.000 There's not another thing that they have.

01:01:03.000 There was a time there when I, especially right when I retired, and I was like, you know, I was angry.

01:01:09.000 I was angry at certain things, man.

01:01:11.000 I'd lash out on the mic and stuff like that, especially in their office in cahoots with the UFC. So how they didn't fire me, I have no idea.

01:01:17.000 Well, I think the worst thing could be that they did fire you.

01:01:20.000 It's actually smart that they didn't.

01:01:22.000 Because you know what the Streisand effect is?

01:01:25.000 Yeah, like when UFC Now banned me and I went howling like a little owl to everybody.

01:01:29.000 Or, you know, there's a bunch of examples of things like that that have happened where someone gets bigger.

01:01:34.000 Because like Milo Yiannopoulos, you know who he is?

01:01:36.000 Yeah, he got banned from Twitter, right?

01:01:37.000 He got banned from Twitter because he was making fun of Ghostbusters.

01:01:40.000 He became bigger than ever.

01:01:41.000 He became like this cultural alt-right icon because of that.

01:01:44.000 It's publicity you can't pay for.

01:01:45.000 Look at Ariel Hawane.

01:01:47.000 Bad example of Ariel Hawane.

01:01:48.000 Remember when the UFC banned him, kicked him out, and they went on all those networks?

01:01:52.000 Yeah.

01:01:52.000 The UFC was like, my bad, my bad.

01:01:53.000 You're back in.

01:01:54.000 Yeah, for a little while.

01:01:55.000 Now he's out again.

01:01:56.000 Is he out again?

01:01:56.000 Yeah.

01:01:57.000 Why is he out again?

01:01:58.000 Because of the Brock Lesnar thing?

01:02:00.000 Remember when...

01:02:00.000 Is he out again?

01:02:01.000 I thought he was in New York.

01:02:02.000 I don't think so.

01:02:04.000 Was he there in the arena?

01:02:05.000 Did he have press credentials?

01:02:06.000 I don't know about me.

01:02:07.000 I saw him walking around like...

01:02:08.000 Oh, he was fired from Fox.

01:02:10.000 That's what he was fired from.

01:02:10.000 Oh, yeah, he was fired from Fox.

01:02:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:12.000 But not fired from his show.

01:02:14.000 I'm doing the UFC media.

01:02:15.000 So he was banned from being in the media for a little while, and then they let him back in.

01:02:18.000 Is that how it works?

01:02:19.000 Yeah, but the thing is, in Dana's defense and the UFC's defense, is the NFL, you know, that certain...

01:02:26.000 Leagues do that.

01:02:27.000 They don't allow certain people in.

01:02:29.000 So it's not as much as North Korea as we thought.

01:02:33.000 There are leagues who ban guys from coming to the events.

01:02:37.000 Well, I don't know what the fuck the NFL does, so it's not even worth me talking about it.

01:02:42.000 How about Habib Nurmagomedov?

01:02:44.000 Okay.

01:02:45.000 What a fucking scary monster that guy is.

01:02:47.000 But here's the thing.

01:02:47.000 He did get clipped, though, didn't he?

01:02:49.000 He got clipped.

01:02:49.000 Michael Johnson clipped him.

01:02:50.000 And I'm watching that, and I was like, what would Conor do to this kid?

01:02:53.000 Right?

01:02:54.000 Because before, I'm like, Conor would get murked by Khabib. 0.97

01:02:56.000 And I saw him like, well, if Johnson lands that, you bet your sweet-ass Conor's gonna land that.

01:03:00.000 That magical left hand.

01:03:01.000 I'm done...

01:03:03.000 Question what Conor's capable of.

01:03:05.000 Because I was like, Eddie's a tough matchup.

01:03:06.000 I think he's gonna win this one.

01:03:07.000 I do.

01:03:08.000 Goddamn, I'm scared for this fight.

01:03:10.000 I kind of want to see him fight Woodley.

01:03:11.000 I'd love to see him fight Brock Lesnar.

01:03:13.000 I want to see him take six months off.

01:03:15.000 I want to see him take six months off and bulk up You know what's crazy?

01:03:19.000 Just put on a little bit of meat.

01:03:20.000 It's not that outlandish to see that fight.

01:03:22.000 Oh, no, it's not.

01:03:23.000 That's very possible.

01:03:24.000 Oh, no, it's not.

01:03:25.000 It's totally possible.

01:03:26.000 The hiccup in that is the UFC's like, do we just let him get all the belts and all the control?

01:03:31.000 Like, where do we stop it before he's running this belt?

01:03:34.000 He'd have to give up one of his belts to take on another one.

01:03:38.000 He needs to give up 45. Give up 45. He's never going to fight there again.

01:03:42.000 He might.

01:03:43.000 That cut down's tough.

01:03:45.000 But the cut's different now because you're allowed to begin your rehydration much earlier.

01:03:50.000 You can weigh in at 8 o'clock in the morning, 8 to 10 in the morning.

01:03:53.000 So by the time the ceremonial weigh-in rolls around, it was in New York City at 6 p.m., he was full.

01:03:59.000 I mean, he looked great.

01:04:00.000 He didn't look dehydrated at all.

01:04:01.000 At 55. But even at 55, he used to look dehydrated, right?

01:04:05.000 Not too bad.

01:04:05.000 45, he looked near the door of death.

01:04:09.000 That's right, we've never really seen him at 55 in the UFC. I've only seen him in cage rage or some other organizations.

01:04:15.000 45, I don't see how he even makes it.

01:04:17.000 Even his camp's like, dude, it's way too tough on him.

01:04:19.000 Just let that belt go, though, now.

01:04:21.000 You did your thing, let it go, because you're keeping that division hostage.

01:04:24.000 You got Pettis, Max Holloway coming up.

01:04:26.000 It's funny.

01:04:27.000 I think it's hilarious, too.

01:04:28.000 It's funny because it's not my life, though, but if I was Aldo, I'd be fucking freaking out.

01:04:32.000 Aldo, who's the champ forever, wants that rematch so bad.

01:04:35.000 It ain't happening.

01:04:36.000 Is he really retiring?

01:04:37.000 He retired and then thought he was going to go do something else, and he thought the UFC was like, oh, okay, do your thing.

01:04:44.000 And then he realized how tough those contracts are, and came back and was like, well, looks like I have to fight, let's do it.

01:04:50.000 Who is he going to fight?

01:04:51.000 I don't know.

01:04:52.000 The winner of Pedersen Holloway?

01:04:54.000 Holloway's been knocking on the fucking door for a long time, man.

01:04:57.000 Nine straight.

01:04:58.000 That's ridiculous.

01:04:59.000 He just needs a bigger name.

01:05:00.000 He needs to get more famous.

01:05:02.000 That's the day and age we're in.

01:05:03.000 He just has to get famous or get on the mic, talk some shit.

01:05:06.000 I'm really interested to see him versus Pettis because Pettis, I think, gets real diminished by that cut.

01:05:11.000 I agree.

01:05:12.000 That's a hard cut for him to get on 45. And I love Pettis, man.

01:05:16.000 I'm a huge Pettis fan.

01:05:18.000 But he hasn't looked the same as of late.

01:05:21.000 Max Holloway's a slick motherfucker, too.

01:05:23.000 You realize it now.

01:05:24.000 After you watch Frankie Edgar and Jeremy Stevens' fight, you realize how slick Holloway is.

01:05:28.000 Holloway was never in trouble in that fight.

01:05:30.000 Never.

01:05:31.000 And then also, think about it.

01:05:32.000 His last loss was Conor McGregor.

01:05:34.000 Conor had a jacked-up knee, but it went to decision.

01:05:36.000 The only decision Conor's had in the UFC. And think how much better Max Holloway is now.

01:05:41.000 If he wins this one, dear God, if someone's listening, give that kid a title shot.

01:05:45.000 What's he have to do?

01:05:46.000 I know.

01:05:46.000 What do you do with Tony and Khabib, though?

01:05:48.000 You're talking about two crazy win streaks, too.

01:05:51.000 Like, how do you even...

01:05:54.000 Just make them fight?

01:05:55.000 Yes!

01:05:56.000 That's what I think.

01:05:57.000 You make them fight.

01:05:58.000 You make them fight.

01:05:59.000 But let's say you have to pick one of them.

01:06:01.000 If Conor's like, all right, I'll fight at 55 in three months.

01:06:03.000 Who the fuck wants some?

01:06:04.000 Well, right now, before that fight, Tony Ferguson was the No.

01:06:08.000 1 contender.

01:06:08.000 Rightly so.

01:06:09.000 Just beat Rafael dos Anjos, beat a shitload of guys.

01:06:11.000 Because he's so active?

01:06:12.000 He beat Edson Barboza.

01:06:13.000 He was the number one contender, according to whatever the rankings are, which I don't think are accurate all the time.

01:06:18.000 Those are a toss-up.

01:06:18.000 Some of them kind of suck.

01:06:20.000 But the second position right now, if he's still number one, it's clearly Habib.

01:06:25.000 Habib was number one, but Habib's been way more inactive than Tony.

01:06:28.000 But the way Khabib mauled Michael Johnson, I think he makes his case. 1.00

01:06:33.000 They both have a case.

01:06:35.000 They both have a case.

01:06:36.000 One's undefeated, one's on knife fight win streak, and then Tony, you know, I thought he dismantled RDA. I thought he looked great.

01:06:43.000 Amazing.

01:06:43.000 Khabib absolutely ragdolled Dos Anjos 2 and then fucking destroy Johnson.

01:06:50.000 It was horrible watching him beat up Johnson.

01:06:52.000 You know, because he's so good at tying up that one arm.

01:06:55.000 He ties up the one arm and then fucking smashes you with the other one.

01:06:59.000 He's got one arm to try to protect him and he's getting just thumped in the head.

01:07:05.000 You gotta hold that chicken when you're gonna snap that bitch off. 1.00

01:07:08.000 Yeah, it's not good.

01:07:09.000 I thought he was too.

01:07:10.000 I was like, please tap, please tap.

01:07:12.000 Please tap.

01:07:12.000 It was like Braveheart.

01:07:13.000 Just come on, man.

01:07:14.000 It was so deep.

01:07:15.000 It was so deep, too.

01:07:16.000 I was thinking Nog, when Nog and Frank Muir fought.

01:07:19.000 That's what I was thinking.

01:07:20.000 I was like, this is gonna snap.

01:07:22.000 But, like, same with hands over there, you refuse to tap.

01:07:24.000 I get that.

01:07:25.000 You're Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu till the day you die.

01:07:28.000 Michael Johnson, let's go ahead and tap, though, sir.

01:07:30.000 Yeah, I'm glad he tapped.

01:07:31.000 Me, too.

01:07:32.000 I was literally squeezing my hands together when I was doing the commentary.

01:07:34.000 I'm like, come on, tap.

01:07:35.000 Come on, tap.

01:07:35.000 Just tap.

01:07:36.000 I'm sweating now thinking about it.

01:07:37.000 When he got him down and then immediately slid right into mounted guillotine, I was like, Jesus Christ.

01:07:43.000 Goddamn, man.

01:07:43.000 His grappling's ridiculous.

01:07:44.000 He's so good.

01:07:46.000 His grappling's so good, it's confusing.

01:07:49.000 Yeah, so those two fighting is the fight.

01:07:53.000 That's the fight.

01:07:54.000 Conor and Habib are the fight.

01:07:55.000 That's the fight.

01:07:56.000 That's not happening, brother.

01:07:57.000 I think Habib needs to get the title.

01:07:59.000 To get a title shot, at least.

01:08:00.000 That's what I think.

01:08:01.000 I think he deserves it.

01:08:03.000 He's the only undefeated challenger.

01:08:05.000 He's a monster.

01:08:06.000 He's mauled everybody in front of him.

01:08:07.000 He hasn't had a single goddamn close fight.

01:08:09.000 He's had one moment, one moment where he gets dinged.

01:08:12.000 But you're speaking logically.

01:08:15.000 Yes!

01:08:15.000 You're thinking guys that deserve it.

01:08:17.000 We're in entertainment, sir.

01:08:19.000 Just the same way Conor leapfrogged everyone who got the title shot.

01:08:22.000 Listen to what I'm saying to you right now.

01:08:24.000 Really?

01:08:25.000 The UFC is about to go to Russia.

01:08:28.000 Do you know that?

01:08:29.000 Yeah, they want to get in there.

01:08:30.000 They don't know what they're going to do.

01:08:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:08:32.000 For sure.

01:08:33.000 UFC in Russia.

01:08:34.000 Conor McGregor versus Habib Nurmagomedov.

01:08:38.000 That's what I think is coming.

01:08:41.000 Giant.

01:08:42.000 Giant.

01:08:42.000 There's a lot of Russians.

01:08:44.000 Giant.

01:08:45.000 Khabib got on the mic, right, and was like, you know how much bigger fucking Russia is than Ireland?

01:08:50.000 Yeah.

01:08:51.000 But he's not the same star.

01:08:53.000 Well, here's the deal, though.

01:08:55.000 Russia's bigger than Ireland, but the United States is bigger than Ireland, too.

01:08:59.000 And when fucking Conor is fighting in New York City, which is an hour and a half from Eddie Alvarez's house, they're booing Eddie Alvarez as he's walking to the cage.

01:09:07.000 No, it doesn't matter.

01:09:09.000 Russia, China, Korea, Ireland.

01:09:11.000 Conor's the biggest star by far.

01:09:12.000 I don't know about that.

01:09:13.000 When you go to Russia, I wonder if he gets booed in Russia.

01:09:18.000 Don't you think if Khabib was that big of a star in Russia, maybe it's sanctioning stuff, and they are going there. 0.67

01:09:23.000 If you check my Instagram page, every time a fucking photo gets up, it's Khabib time. 1.00

01:09:27.000 Khabib time. 0.57

01:09:28.000 Khabib king.

01:09:29.000 Khabib champ.

01:09:30.000 He deserves it, but there's a reason why he hasn't been the headliner of a pay-per-view.

01:09:35.000 Maybe.

01:09:35.000 In the States here.

01:09:36.000 Maybe.

01:09:37.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:09:38.000 But he is a fucking monster, and he is a hero to the Russian MMA fans.

01:09:43.000 Correct.

01:09:43.000 This guy from Dagestan has been mauling everybody they put in front of him, and people think, and rightly so, that he's unjustly being kept from a title shot.

01:09:53.000 You can't say he's been kept from a title shot when he's been injured for a long time.

01:09:57.000 That's true, too.

01:09:57.000 Who's keeping him from getting injured?

01:09:58.000 Blame that on AKA. That's not Conor's deal.

01:10:01.000 That's true.

01:10:01.000 But they did promise him this fight.

01:10:04.000 This was something that they said, no, Habib gets the next shot at the title.

01:10:07.000 This was something that was publicly stated, which made sense at the time because Habib was 23-0.

01:10:12.000 He's going to fight in Madison Square Garden for the title.

01:10:15.000 This is what they were saying.

01:10:16.000 Now you're talking about the Conor effect, right?

01:10:17.000 Habib versus Eddie Alvarez.

01:10:18.000 I can't have that.

01:10:19.000 That doesn't sell tickets.

01:10:20.000 Exactly.

01:10:20.000 Then Conor went, no, I want to fight that one.

01:10:22.000 Oh, Habib, we'll keep you on the card.

01:10:23.000 Why don't you fight on the undercard, though?

01:10:25.000 Imagine how Habib feels when he hears that shit.

01:10:27.000 Man, he gets that phone call.

01:10:28.000 He thinks, this is it, finally.

01:10:30.000 I get the title.

01:10:31.000 I bet he went in his backyard and beat the shit out of that Kodiak bear.

01:10:34.000 He's got a bear in his yard.

01:10:36.000 You ever seen that video?

01:10:37.000 He was a kid.

01:10:38.000 It's awesome.

01:10:39.000 Yeah, he's a kid wrestling bear.

01:10:39.000 He's so much tougher than anyone I know.

01:10:41.000 He's so goddamn tough.

01:10:43.000 He's ridiculous.

01:10:44.000 His grappling's ridiculous.

01:10:45.000 I'm really interested in seeing whether or not he can get past that left hand.

01:10:49.000 If you are correct, and that's the fight in Russia, the amount of money they're going to have to pay Conor to fight him in Russia when Conor's still the draw, you're talking about a different ballgame.

01:11:00.000 Show me the money!

01:11:02.000 It's going to be interesting, though.

01:11:03.000 What other Russian badasses are there that fight in the UFC? Did you see that Koreshkov just got knocked the fuck out in Bellator?

01:11:10.000 Yes, which was crazy, by Lima.

01:11:13.000 Dude, Lima's a bad motherfucker. 0.92

01:11:15.000 Yeah.

01:11:15.000 Of course, God's a monster.

01:11:16.000 Speaking of Russians in that area, not to flip the script here, but this weekend is Andre Ward versus freaking Kovalev.

01:11:25.000 Oh, that's right.

01:11:25.000 Kovalev.

01:11:26.000 Yeah, that's this weekend.

01:11:27.000 Best boxing matchup in a long time.

01:11:28.000 That's a big fight.

01:11:28.000 No one's talking about it either.

01:11:29.000 It drives me nuts.

01:11:30.000 I know.

01:11:30.000 I've been watching all the countdowns and shit.

01:11:32.000 I can't get enough of it.

01:11:34.000 I know.

01:11:34.000 I watched that last countdown thing they did, too.

01:11:36.000 It was on after the Victor Ortiz fight.

01:11:39.000 Yeah, Ortiz looked like shit. 0.57

01:11:41.000 Well, the duty fought was like on super survival mode.

01:11:44.000 He was terrified.

01:11:45.000 Yeah, he didn't throw any punches.

01:11:47.000 Nothing.

01:11:47.000 And they said through the whole fight he threw a hundred and something punches.

01:11:49.000 He was so scared.

01:11:50.000 And then Ortiz would touch him and he'd pretend to fall down because he was like waiting for the knockout.

01:11:53.000 But he also was grabbing his head and saying he got hit in the back of the head a couple of times.

01:11:57.000 It was a terrible fight.

01:11:58.000 It wasn't good.

01:11:59.000 But yeah, you're right.

01:12:00.000 Right after that was Andre Ward versus Kovalev.

01:12:03.000 Like the countdown, kind of their background in Andre Ward.

01:12:06.000 To me, he's just a bigger version of Floyd Mayweather.

01:12:08.000 Like, his defense is insane, but he has knockout power.

01:12:11.000 He hasn't lost since he's 13. I give him the advantage.

01:12:14.000 Some people think Kovalev's going to win.

01:12:16.000 I don't know what the betting odds are.

01:12:17.000 I was stunned by the way Kovalev handled Hopkins.

01:12:21.000 And I know Bernard's old.

01:12:22.000 He's 100 years old.

01:12:23.000 He's 1,000.

01:12:24.000 He looks like a turtle.

01:12:25.000 He looks old.

01:12:26.000 He's fighting again.

01:12:27.000 December 10th or 12th or something like that?

01:12:28.000 I think in LA. I'm not going to that.

01:12:30.000 I'm not going to that, sir.

01:12:31.000 Please stop fighting.

01:12:32.000 I'm not going to go either.

01:12:32.000 I'm going to be in...

01:12:33.000 That's the Toronto UFC that weekend.

01:12:35.000 It's also...

01:12:36.000 The Weekend of Glory, that's Badr Hari versus Rico Verhoeven.

01:12:39.000 Was that the best weekend ever, besides that Hopkins fight?

01:12:41.000 That's a good fucking card, too.

01:12:42.000 Dude, that Toronto card is stacked now.

01:12:44.000 It is now.

01:12:45.000 Because you've got Kennedy, Rashad, Cowboy, Matt Brown.

01:12:48.000 Yeah, Cowboy versus Matt Brown is better than Cowboy versus Gastelum.

01:12:52.000 That fight did nothing for me.

01:12:54.000 Well, Gastelum's done now, man.

01:12:55.000 He's in a bad, bad, bad place.

01:12:58.000 Dana says he has to fight at 85 now.

01:12:59.000 He's said that before and made him fight at 85. Maybe he beat Nate Marquardt at 85. Correct, sir.

01:13:06.000 Wasn't that 85 that he fought Marquardt?

01:13:07.000 No, he fought Marquardt at 70. Was it?

01:13:09.000 Yeah.

01:13:10.000 It was one of those fights that he beat somebody because he got sent up to 85 and then he proved that he could make the weight.

01:13:16.000 And he's blaming George Lockhart now.

01:13:19.000 The only person you can blame is yourself.

01:13:20.000 Like, you know, man.

01:13:21.000 Especially being an experience, you know.

01:13:24.000 And it's so frustrating.

01:13:25.000 That shows you what kind of card the UFC 205 was.

01:13:28.000 I didn't even blink.

01:13:30.000 I didn't bat an eye to that.

01:13:31.000 Alright, what's next?

01:13:32.000 Look at this fucking card.

01:13:33.000 Tim K. Rashad, that sucks.

01:13:34.000 Oh my god, look at this card.

01:13:36.000 Yeah.

01:13:36.000 Well, now Toronto's just stacked.

01:13:39.000 Gastelum is a really elite fighter.

01:13:42.000 He's a very tough guy.

01:13:44.000 He beat a lot of tough guys.

01:13:45.000 I'm a big fan of that kid.

01:13:46.000 I think he's awesome.

01:13:47.000 But he needs to lose some fucking body fat, period.

01:13:50.000 You're not a heavyweight.

01:13:50.000 You're not Cain Velasquez.

01:13:52.000 He can't walk around with that much body fat.

01:13:53.000 Well, he posted on Instagram like a week before, two weeks before a fight, like, real Mexican dinner.

01:13:58.000 It's like these fucking burritos, enchilada stuff.

01:14:01.000 Alright, man, we cannot have that, sir.

01:14:03.000 He can't do that.

01:14:04.000 I mean, he's an elite professional athlete who absolutely could still, to this day, win the world title.

01:14:09.000 He has the skill, for sure.

01:14:11.000 He has the skill.

01:14:11.000 And he's fought the guys.

01:14:12.000 He beat Woodley, yeah?

01:14:15.000 Did he beat Woodley or did Woodley beat him?

01:14:18.000 Woodley beat him in a decision where he didn't fucking make weight.

01:14:20.000 There you go.

01:14:21.000 That was a decision where he didn't fucking make weight.

01:14:23.000 And Woodley, being the great guy that he is, didn't take the percentage.

01:14:27.000 The 30%? 0.91

01:14:28.000 Yeah, the 20, I think it is.

01:14:29.000 When your opponent doesn't make weight.

01:14:31.000 It's 30%.

01:14:31.000 Is it 30?

01:14:32.000 30. Okay.

01:14:32.000 I thought it was 20. Woodley, being a great guy that he is, said, I don't want that money.

01:14:36.000 And he beat him by decision.

01:14:38.000 So Woodley got the win bonus, too.

01:14:40.000 But I don't know who Calvin has fought at 85 in the last few years.

01:14:46.000 He's been forced at one point in time to go up to 85. Just needs to fucking lose body fat.

01:14:51.000 Just lose it and keep it off.

01:14:52.000 Dude, and any time a fighter doesn't make weight, Mike Dolce jumps out like Chris Hansen from To Catch a Predator.

01:14:58.000 Excuse me, want to take a seat?

01:15:00.000 You want to sit down?

01:15:01.000 And he cannot wait to tweet out...

01:15:03.000 Ah, man, it's frustrating when guys miss weight.

01:15:06.000 Yeah, he does.

01:15:06.000 Like, he is just super thirsty, isn't he?

01:15:09.000 He's super thirsty.

01:15:09.000 Like, Chris Hansen on Catch a Predator just fucking can't wait to tweet about it.

01:15:14.000 Well, Dolce's got a whole staff.

01:15:16.000 He's got a staff of people.

01:15:17.000 He's expensive, though.

01:15:18.000 Yeah, he's got a...

01:15:19.000 Well, he is expensive.

01:15:19.000 Yeah, for a reason.

01:15:20.000 For a good reason.

01:15:21.000 He's got an office building.

01:15:24.000 Well, he's an employee of the UFC, too.

01:15:26.000 Well, I think he has like nine employees or something crazy.

01:15:29.000 Just looking up YouTube and how to fucking lose weight and shit.

01:15:33.000 That motherfucker comes out of the curtains, though. 0.99

01:15:35.000 A lot of people disagree with him, though.

01:15:36.000 A lot of people disagree with some of his methods.

01:15:39.000 Yeah, their name's BJ Penn.

01:15:41.000 Yeah, well, he was just upset that...

01:15:43.000 Well, he was upset for a bunch of reasons.

01:15:45.000 He made the wait, though.

01:15:46.000 But he was upset that Dolce charged him so much.

01:15:49.000 Said he really didn't do much.

01:15:50.000 I don't know the whole story.

01:15:51.000 I don't know the whole story either.

01:15:53.000 I'm not taking sides there.

01:15:54.000 But I will tell you this.

01:15:55.000 BJ Penn's a goddamn legend, so I'm siding with him, usually.

01:15:59.000 He's from Hawaii.

01:16:00.000 Yeah, I don't know what the fuck happened.

01:16:02.000 Me neither.

01:16:02.000 You'd have to be there.

01:16:03.000 But the point is, like, if you have someone who is monitoring every aspect of your weight cut, like your hydration levels, what kind of fluids you're drinking, what kind of foods you're eating, and it doesn't work out.

01:16:16.000 If you did what that guy said, and the weight didn't come off, somebody fucked up.

01:16:20.000 Who fucked up?

01:16:21.000 I don't know.

01:16:22.000 It'd be the guy you had.

01:16:22.000 But let me ask you this, Joe.

01:16:24.000 If someone...

01:16:26.000 Let's say it's not UFC 205. He missed weight by 10 pounds, though.

01:16:29.000 Which is ridiculous.

01:16:30.000 But let's say it's not UFC 205 where it's a card not as stacked.

01:16:33.000 Let's say it's a main event in Toronto with DC and Rumble, which before, that card was pure shit besides that fight.

01:16:40.000 Now it's an amazing card.

01:16:41.000 You've got Max Holloway, Anthony Pettis, blah, blah, blah.

01:16:44.000 Would it be crazy for the new UFC suits to hire nutritionists and maybe just the main card, they designate you a guy to help you lose weight?

01:16:55.000 Because it's your product.

01:16:56.000 It's not a bad idea.

01:16:58.000 However, I think...

01:16:59.000 Like maybe Mike Dolce works with everyone and he has a team.

01:17:03.000 Maybe it's not Mike Dolce, but he's riding the plan this year diet, and this person is assigned to you and they're following up with you.

01:17:08.000 Because who does it hurt when they don't make weight?

01:17:10.000 It hurts the fighter, and then it hurts the UFC, too.

01:17:13.000 Certain cards.

01:17:14.000 I think an even better strategy is seek to eliminate weight cuts.

01:17:18.000 Seek to cut it out of the sport.

01:17:20.000 It's unnecessary.

01:17:21.000 It's dangerous.

01:17:22.000 It puts guys at risk health-wise when they don't have to be at risk health-wise.

01:17:27.000 I think the only thing that's holding it back are championship belts and more options of weight classes.

01:17:33.000 I think if they could figure out what weight guys are, where they compete at optimally, and then the same way you do USADA or USADA testing, you do hydration testing.

01:17:44.000 But how many weight classes?

01:17:45.000 You'd have a gigillion weight classes.

01:17:48.000 Yep.

01:17:48.000 You have more weight classes.

01:17:50.000 But then you have boxing.

01:17:51.000 No, no, no.

01:17:51.000 And that's the problem with boxing.

01:17:52.000 It's not a problem with boxing, though.

01:17:54.000 Look at Andre Ward and Kovalev.

01:17:55.000 They're going to fight.

01:17:56.000 Well, you have less organizations.

01:17:58.000 It's not like you have five different world title organizations and plus weight classes.

01:18:02.000 You would just have plus weight classes.

01:18:04.000 I think you would have more champions.

01:18:06.000 You'd have more opportunity for championship titles.

01:18:08.000 I like that because you have more stars.

01:18:10.000 You also have more opportunity for title bouts between guys where one guy decides to go up, one guy decides to go down.

01:18:16.000 But instead of...

01:18:18.000 Them doing it by dehydrating themselves 24 hours out, you make a contract to fight at a certain weight because that's what weight you are in a healthy way.

01:18:27.000 Which maximizes their skills and performance.

01:18:30.000 Yes, and it doesn't put them at the dangers that you have from being dehydrated 24 hours out.

01:18:35.000 But where do you stop, though?

01:18:37.000 How many weight classes do you have?

01:18:39.000 That's a good question.

01:18:40.000 Can you have 20 belts?

01:18:42.000 Well, I think boxing has that many.

01:18:44.000 And it's a real problem.

01:18:45.000 Name 10 stars in boxing.

01:18:46.000 But I don't care.

01:18:47.000 Name 10 stars in the UFC. You want me to?

01:18:50.000 Yeah.

01:18:51.000 Okay.

01:18:52.000 10 champions.

01:18:53.000 Well, 10...

01:18:53.000 I can name champions and former champions easily.

01:18:59.000 Don't you think you can name 10 champion boxers, though?

01:19:02.000 Manny Pacquiao, Tim Bradley, if you want to start going on, Terrence Crawford, Lomachenko, Vasily Lomachenko, Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather.

01:19:15.000 You know, you can keep going.

01:19:16.000 You can name a bunch of champions in boxing, right?

01:19:18.000 But a lot of those guys are on the same weight, yeah?

01:19:20.000 That's true.

01:19:21.000 That's true.

01:19:21.000 But, you know, you go up in heavyweight, you got fucking Klitschko, Wilder, Anthony Joshua.

01:19:28.000 You did it, son?

01:19:29.000 Let's go, champ! 1.00

01:19:30.000 What's up, champ?

01:19:30.000 Let's go, champ!

01:19:31.000 That's amazing.

01:19:32.000 He's fighting for a world title.

01:19:33.000 He's supposed to be here today, but he had to move it to, yeah, he's fighting for a world title.

01:19:37.000 Brilliant.

01:19:37.000 Interesting.

01:19:38.000 That's going to be fun.

01:19:39.000 Yeah.

01:19:40.000 There's a lot of heavyweight talent now.

01:19:41.000 Anthony Joshua, he's a bad motherfucker.

01:19:43.000 Fuck yeah, that guy in frickin' New Zealand that everyone talks about.

01:19:47.000 What is Tyson Fury doing?

01:19:50.000 He's retired and clinically, like, he's suicidal and needs some help.

01:19:54.000 Mentally, he's just not there.

01:19:56.000 So he's out.

01:19:59.000 He's crazy, man.

01:20:00.000 That dude's crazy.

01:20:03.000 I think, yeah, unique characters like that.

01:20:05.000 But I like the idea, Joe, but the problem is it's tough enough for the average fan to keep up now with the stars.

01:20:11.000 I think that's the least of our concerns.

01:20:12.000 The most important thing is to put on great fights.

01:20:15.000 Exactly, so higher, because how much?

01:20:18.000 Four billion!

01:20:19.000 The dehydration is dangerous and unnecessary.

01:20:22.000 No one's died?

01:20:23.000 They have in Brazil.

01:20:25.000 In the UFC? It could come close to the UFC. But has anyone died?

01:20:28.000 Do you know that Dos Anjos passed out for three fucking minutes before his fight with Eddie Alvarez, where he was unconscious and unresponsive?

01:20:34.000 But did you die?

01:20:35.000 He was on the door, bro.

01:20:36.000 But did you die?

01:20:39.000 Nobody's died.

01:20:40.000 But I think people have been diminished considerably.

01:20:43.000 And I think their performance suffers.

01:20:45.000 So it makes a shittier product.

01:20:47.000 I agree.

01:20:48.000 If you want to look at it from a business.

01:20:49.000 Plus, if the UFC has got...

01:20:51.000 Look, you could say, hey, steroids are part of the game.

01:20:53.000 Are they?

01:20:54.000 Well, not anymore.

01:20:55.000 Now they're fucking knocking on your door at 6 o'clock in the morning making you pee in a cup. 0.91

01:20:59.000 If they decided to do that at 6 o'clock in the morning, they'd try to test people's hydration levels at 6 o'clock in the morning, every day.

01:21:05.000 Find out what your weight is.

01:21:07.000 Okay, this is what your body fat is.

01:21:08.000 This is what your weight is.

01:21:09.000 This is the lowest you can get.

01:21:11.000 They'll test you out when you're fully hydrated, and when your body fat is wherever the fuck you are right now, they'll say, hey, okay, right now you're 178 pounds.

01:21:19.000 Listen, the lowest you can fight is 172. That's it.

01:21:22.000 Bro, you're going to have 1,000 weight classes.

01:21:25.000 I don't know about that.

01:21:26.000 And certain guys won't fight each other.

01:21:26.000 I don't know about that.

01:21:27.000 I think some guys could gain a little weight.

01:21:30.000 That's no big deal.

01:21:31.000 I don't mind the idea.

01:21:33.000 I think you're right.

01:21:33.000 You're going to get great performances.

01:21:35.000 Way better performances.

01:21:36.000 I think the weight class thing can be worked out.

01:21:38.000 I agree.

01:21:39.000 They obviously need to do something.

01:21:41.000 Yes.

01:21:42.000 Right now, the easiest thing to do for them is to use whoever they want.

01:21:46.000 Doesn't have to be Mike Dolce, but a number of them, and assign those to the main card guys to make sure they're coming on weight.

01:21:52.000 Yeah, but what about the guys in the undercard?

01:21:54.000 Fuck them?

01:21:55.000 That sounds crazy, too.

01:21:56.000 Does it?

01:21:57.000 Because that's what they did with Reebok.

01:21:58.000 Does it sound like crazy to say, fuck them?

01:22:00.000 Yes, it does.

01:22:01.000 But that's the nature of the beast.

01:22:03.000 But I think that's crazy, too.

01:22:04.000 But that's what they're doing.

01:22:06.000 I'm just following the orders.

01:22:08.000 I understand that.

01:22:08.000 But I'm saying, if I had the master key...

01:22:12.000 The first thing I would do is say, come up with a strategy to stop weight cutting.

01:22:16.000 We're going to come up with a new plan.

01:22:18.000 And whether that new plan means abandoning world titles and making...

01:22:23.000 How dare you.

01:22:23.000 Yes, yes.

01:22:24.000 How dare you.

01:22:24.000 You introduce someone as a world champion, you know, whoever the fuck they are.

01:22:27.000 They get to, you know, bring their world title to the fight, but whenever their next title defense is or whatever the fuck it is, all this name stuff, Welter, Light, Feather, first of all, it's goofy because it's not the right weight anyway.

01:22:41.000 Welterweight is not 170. It's 147. That's what Sugar Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns fought at.

01:22:46.000 They called it fucking Welterweight.

01:22:48.000 Correct.

01:22:48.000 To start the UFC and just to say, well, it's Welterweight.

01:22:51.000 And then Pride fucked it up even more because they had it.

01:22:54.000 It was different.

01:22:55.000 Like, their middleweight was 203. Correct.

01:22:57.000 And then light heavyweight isn't 205. It's not 205, it's 175. Everybody knows that.

01:23:02.000 Heavyweight's 201 plus.

01:23:04.000 Yeah, we grew up in boxing and the weight classes were clearly defined.

01:23:08.000 Why the fuck does the UFC have a 265 pound weight limit too?

01:23:11.000 Why are you making Brock Lesnar cut weight or whoever the fuck a big giant dude is?

01:23:15.000 Like Shane, why would you make Shane cut weight?

01:23:17.000 If he wants to weigh 300 pounds, let that fucking big vanilla gorilla weigh 300 pounds. 1.00

01:23:21.000 Who cares?

01:23:22.000 I want to see it.

01:23:23.000 Dude, he has a matchup in Ryzen.

01:23:24.000 I just saw it.

01:23:26.000 Some dude I've never heard of.

01:23:27.000 I've never heard of him.

01:23:28.000 I guess he's just some fucking Middle Eastern monster. 1.00

01:23:32.000 Oh, no.

01:23:33.000 He's an Olympic-level wrestler and just knocks dudes out.

01:23:36.000 Oh, my God.

01:23:37.000 I need to do research on the guy, but someone tagged me and I'm like, oh my god.

01:23:41.000 Mufasa.

01:23:41.000 I thought they were going to give him a Fedor, though.

01:23:43.000 That's a big name matchup for Fedor.

01:23:45.000 It's a tournament.

01:23:46.000 It's like Pride style.

01:23:48.000 The winner doesn't fight Fedor.

01:23:50.000 It's supposed to be like an openweight tournament.

01:23:53.000 It's dope. 0.55

01:23:54.000 What kind of work has Shane had done on his back?

01:23:58.000 He had surgery.

01:23:59.000 I know he had a disc replacement and then he had some stuff on his neck.

01:24:02.000 He had a disc replacement?

01:24:03.000 Pretty sure.

01:24:04.000 Like they put one of those artificial jammies in there?

01:24:07.000 I don't want to speak for him, but he had surgery on his neck.

01:24:10.000 He didn't get it fused, did he?

01:24:11.000 Did he get anything fused?

01:24:12.000 I'm not sure.

01:24:13.000 I don't want to speak for Shane.

01:24:14.000 I know he had surgery on his back.

01:24:16.000 I like Ryzen because they let him take all the vitamins he wants.

01:24:20.000 It's just, I mean, it's just Monster Squad.

01:24:23.000 They should rename it Monsters, Inc.

01:24:25.000 Well, I would like Overeem to go over there, too.

01:24:27.000 Oh, me too.

01:24:28.000 Just get back to the old man.

01:24:29.000 Just do the old thing, man.

01:24:30.000 Just do the old thing.

01:24:32.000 You know that thing?

01:24:32.000 Like the old time you need Fragita in the face and ended his life.

01:24:35.000 Do that.

01:24:36.000 Yeah, when he fought Todd Duffy and he looked like some sort of a cartoon character.

01:24:39.000 God, dog.

01:24:40.000 How fun was that to watch, though?

01:24:41.000 Yo, Romero looked small compared to him.

01:24:43.000 Yo, Romero looked at him like, I'm going to start lifting.

01:24:45.000 Yo, Romero looks like malnourished next to him. 1.00

01:24:47.000 Yo, Romero looks like he has AIDS next to Uber in.

01:24:50.000 He's like, I gotta go lift.

01:24:51.000 I gotta get out of here.

01:24:52.000 Yeah, he's like, god damn, I need to fucking hit the gym.

01:24:54.000 Uber Ream?

01:24:55.000 We've never seen anything like it.

01:24:56.000 No.

01:24:56.000 For whatever reason, when you and I get together, we just fucking have a love fest over this Uber Ream that doesn't exist anymore.

01:25:02.000 It's like the Loch Ness Monster.

01:25:04.000 You and I are obsessed with this.

01:25:05.000 Well, there's video, though.

01:25:06.000 That's the problem.

01:25:07.000 There's proof.

01:25:07.000 It's not just like we see him and we go, oh, that's the guy Stipe just knocked out?

01:25:11.000 No, I'm telling you, Stipe's a bad motherfucker, no doubt about it, but he's not the same guy.

01:25:16.000 That's not the Brock Lesnar guy.

01:25:17.000 The guy who fought Brock?

01:25:18.000 No, no, no.

01:25:19.000 That guy doesn't exist anymore.

01:25:20.000 That guy was terrified.

01:25:21.000 If he did, he would never lose.

01:25:23.000 He would never, ever lose.

01:25:25.000 I was so scared because I was fighting that time.

01:25:27.000 I was like, well, what the fuck would happen?

01:25:29.000 What if they called me up right now?

01:25:31.000 I'm going to have to act sick.

01:25:33.000 Yeah, well, yeah.

01:25:34.000 It's interesting, man.

01:25:35.000 You know, the people that say that steroids don't win fights or performance-enhancing drugs don't win fights, they're crazy.

01:25:41.000 Pfft.

01:25:42.000 Those people are crazy.

01:25:44.000 Crazy.

01:25:45.000 You're out of your mind.

01:25:45.000 You're crazy.

01:25:46.000 It helps a lot.

01:25:47.000 You don't think I could have went uber brown?

01:25:49.000 Uber big brown?

01:25:51.000 Oh yeah.

01:25:51.000 Grande brown?

01:25:52.000 It helps a lot.

01:25:54.000 Venti brown would do some work.

01:25:55.000 It also helps with your chin.

01:25:57.000 Yes.

01:25:58.000 And hopefully I could have taken that and my head would have grown.

01:26:02.000 So all of a sudden I have this Ubering body and this Mark Hunt head that'd be fucking sick!

01:26:07.000 You know what I hope?

01:26:08.000 Honestly, I really do hope that Ryzen takes off and becomes like Pride was back in the day.

01:26:13.000 And you have these nutty, insane, fucking full-bore freak show fights, and we get to see guys just jacked to the tits on them.

01:26:20.000 I could use that in my life.

01:26:22.000 It'd be awesome.

01:26:23.000 We would do fight campaigns for every one of them.

01:26:25.000 Fuck yeah! 0.99

01:26:26.000 It'd be so sick.

01:26:27.000 Fuck yeah! 0.99

01:26:27.000 It'd be so violent. 0.99

01:26:29.000 It'd be amazing.

01:26:30.000 If the UFC was smart, they'd get in bed with them.

01:26:32.000 They'd be like, listen, let's bring...

01:26:33.000 Just be under the table, investors.

01:26:34.000 Let's bring this over to the fucking Fight Pass. 0.99

01:26:37.000 Come on, baby. 0.97

01:26:38.000 I agree.

01:26:38.000 Come on, baby.

01:26:39.000 Hey, listen.

01:26:40.000 Ubering wants to start some shit. 1.00

01:26:41.000 How about you guys just sign and then we'll put on Fight Pass.

01:26:43.000 And encourage the steroids. 0.99

01:26:44.000 Say, listen, I know those motherfuckers can't fight like that over here. 1.00

01:26:48.000 We're all clean and everything.

01:26:49.000 Super strict.

01:26:50.000 So listen, just...

01:26:51.000 Fucking give us a little taste.

01:26:52.000 It'd be a good business plan.

01:26:53.000 We'll help you out.

01:26:54.000 Smart.

01:26:55.000 Yeah, you can watch the freak show.

01:26:56.000 You get it all.

01:26:56.000 Japanese freak show.

01:26:57.000 You get it all.

01:26:58.000 And who knows, man?

01:26:59.000 Japan is weird.

01:27:00.000 You know, Japan was a huge culture for MMA at one point in time.

01:27:04.000 Like, at one point in time, the UFC was giant over there.

01:27:07.000 And then it faded and dropped off bad.

01:27:09.000 Or, excuse me, Pride was giant.

01:27:11.000 And then it faded and dropped off bad.

01:27:13.000 And Dream was kind of like the end of it.

01:27:16.000 And then now there's not really a presence there anymore until Ryzen comes along.

01:27:19.000 So if Ryzen can figure out how to bring back the same sort of excitement in the Japanese culture and the Japanese people that they had when they had the pride days, the glory days of selling out Saitama Super Arena and those gigantic places.

01:27:33.000 Then it'd be good business for the UFC because then they just come in the back door like, oh, you like that product?

01:27:37.000 What's up, fellas?

01:27:38.000 We do it bigger and better than everyone.

01:27:40.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:27:40.000 Put a little piece of that.

01:27:41.000 I wonder how the UFC did because didn't they, Aldo fought Someone out there, not Aldo.

01:27:47.000 Anthony Pettis was the main event out there, remember?

01:27:49.000 Yeah, I was there.

01:27:50.000 I was there for one...

01:27:51.000 Was it a good show?

01:27:52.000 Well, there's been more than one Japan UFC. I've been there for one of them.

01:27:56.000 But that was the latest one, remember?

01:27:58.000 Rampage fought when I was there.

01:27:59.000 I remember that.

01:28:01.000 But I don't remember too much about that event.

01:28:04.000 I feel like Pettis was the main event and liver kicked the shit out of someone or head kicked someone.

01:28:08.000 It might have been...

01:28:10.000 Joe Lozon?

01:28:11.000 Yes.

01:28:12.000 Maybe.

01:28:12.000 That was the Japan card.

01:28:13.000 I felt like Roy was on there too.

01:28:15.000 Might have been.

01:28:16.000 I don't remember.

01:28:16.000 But I wonder what the numbers were like.

01:28:18.000 They couldn't have been too great because UFC was like, ah, we're good.

01:28:20.000 Yeah.

01:28:21.000 Because they haven't been back in a while.

01:28:22.000 I don't know.

01:28:23.000 I mean, look, the UFC does so many shows.

01:28:25.000 They're doing two next Saturday.

01:28:28.000 They're doing one from Brazil and they're doing one from Belfast.

01:28:32.000 Really?

01:28:32.000 Yeah, they're doing the Northern Ireland card.

01:28:34.000 It's Gegard Mousasi versus Uriah Hall, the rematch.

01:28:38.000 It's fun.

01:28:38.000 Yeah, and then the Brazil card is Ryan Bader versus Little Nog.

01:28:43.000 And Claudia Gadeja.

01:28:45.000 Claudia Gadeja is on that card, too.

01:28:46.000 Yeah, and there's one more big fight on that.

01:28:48.000 Here's someone that no one's talking about in the strawweight division.

01:28:51.000 It's Jessica Andrade.

01:28:53.000 She moved down. 0.90

01:28:54.000 She's a gorilla. 1.00

01:28:55.000 Gorilla.

01:28:56.000 Her and Liz Carmou should have a bodybuilding contest. 1.00

01:28:59.000 It's a toss-up.

01:29:00.000 Both of them stand in front of each other and flex it out.

01:29:02.000 I'd watch that.

01:29:03.000 I'll tell you who I wouldn't mind seeing signing with the UFC, and I don't think she needs to work on her stand-up. 1.00

01:29:08.000 Obviously, it's super amateur right now, but that Mackenzie?

01:29:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:29:13.000 I watched her, I think it was on HDNet.

01:29:17.000 She... 1.00

01:29:17.000 She fucking knotted this girl up. 1.00

01:29:20.000 I think it was a go-go plata. 0.97

01:29:22.000 She started a go-go plata and then got her neck. 1.00

01:29:25.000 I mean, her grappling, I think she could come to the UFC right now at strawweight and just top five. 1.00

01:29:31.000 She's insane. 0.98

01:29:32.000 Her jiu-jitsu is insane. 0.84

01:29:33.000 It's so insane.

01:29:34.000 Her striking is super amateur, but the strawweight division is at a point where I think she could still do work right now. 1.00

01:29:39.000 And she's hot as fuck. 1.00

01:29:41.000 She is a smoked show.

01:29:43.000 She's a smoked show and she speaks English and Portuguese fluently.

01:29:47.000 Dime PC. And nasty on the ground.

01:29:50.000 Super nasty.

01:29:51.000 Super high level black belt.

01:29:53.000 And the daughter of Megaton Diaz.

01:29:56.000 Yes.

01:29:56.000 Who's a very, very well respected, famous Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt.

01:30:01.000 And a pioneer.

01:30:02.000 He's one of the old school guys.

01:30:03.000 That's her papa.

01:30:04.000 Yeah, that's amazing.

01:30:05.000 Yeah, I think she's probably eventually going to wind up in the UFC. Did she make 115? 0.99

01:30:10.000 Yeah.

01:30:11.000 Good luck taking down the Polish killer. 1.00

01:30:14.000 Did you see what she put on her fucking water bottle, bro?

01:30:16.000 Yeah, didn't she blast it out?

01:30:18.000 Killer shit.

01:30:19.000 One of the guys from the underground posted it up, and then I actually wound up getting it from Joe Silva.

01:30:25.000 Joe Silva showed it to me in between fights.

01:30:29.000 Let me see the dude's name.

01:30:32.000 Sincognito is the dude's name on mixedmartialarts.com.

01:30:35.000 And it says, in two days I will fuck a bitch up and continue my violent run as champion. 1.00

01:30:41.000 I mean...

01:30:42.000 She writes that on her water bottle! 0.97

01:30:43.000 I'm just...

01:30:45.000 Straight, cold-blooded killer.

01:30:48.000 I love her, man.

01:30:49.000 Dude, that fight, I was surprised.

01:30:51.000 First time we've really seen her in a lot of trouble like that.

01:30:53.000 She got cracked.

01:30:55.000 I think it was a punch.

01:30:55.000 It was a straight punch.

01:30:57.000 I thought it was a punch to the elbow.

01:30:59.000 She punched and came through with that right elbow. 1.00

01:31:01.000 And then she was wobbly, man.

01:31:03.000 Maybe.

01:31:03.000 We've never really seen her in that much danger.

01:31:05.000 Well, and the thing was that Shevchenko was getting lit up for most of the fight.

01:31:09.000 How tough is that girl? 1.00

01:31:11.000 Super tough.

01:31:12.000 Those Polish girls, man. 1.00

01:31:14.000 Super tough.

01:31:15.000 And after the fight, looked great.

01:31:16.000 I mean, she ate a lot of punches. 1.00

01:31:18.000 She ate a lot of kicks.

01:31:19.000 A lot of leg kicks.

01:31:19.000 I thought Joanna looked worse as far as face.

01:31:22.000 Yeah, she had that big mouse on her upper eye there. 1.00

01:31:25.000 She got cracked with, I think there was a couple of hard elbows in the clinch, too. 1.00

01:31:29.000 It was a great fight.

01:31:30.000 But it wasn't a great fight for a while.

01:31:32.000 For a while, it looked like Valentina was just, she just wasn't as fluid or effective.

01:31:39.000 Yeah, she was just hanging in there for a second. 0.91

01:31:41.000 But she never stopped.

01:31:42.000 She never stopped coming forward.

01:31:43.000 She never stopped coming forward.

01:31:45.000 And she was never discouraged.

01:31:47.000 I mean, she had some moments where she couldn't solve the puzzle, and Ioana was doing a really good job of ending the combinations with leg kicks, inside and outside, inside and outside. 1.00

01:31:57.000 Nonstop.

01:31:57.000 Yeah.

01:31:59.000 And all those leg kicks, they was really making a big difference.

01:32:03.000 If you follow Ioana, though, it was a tough fight, but Ioana definitely won that.

01:32:08.000 Her first fight with Claudia Gadeja, that was a tougher fight for her.

01:32:13.000 She had a tough fight in the last one with Claudia Gadeja. 0.87

01:32:16.000 Really tough.

01:32:17.000 She won, but she's been to some wars. 0.76

01:32:20.000 Valerie Letourneau, she fought that fight.

01:32:22.000 She had a broken hand somewhere in the fight. 0.89

01:32:24.000 She kept punching with it.

01:32:25.000 She's just a murderer, man. 0.99

01:32:26.000 She's a badass woman. 1.00

01:32:28.000 It's a badass woman. 1.00

01:32:29.000 Is Tony Hinchcliffe still obsessed with her?

01:32:30.000 Loves her.

01:32:31.000 They look like brother and sister though, don't they?

01:32:32.000 Yeah, it would be weird if they fucked. 0.86

01:32:36.000 She might outweigh him.

01:32:39.000 Yeah, that's a tough one.

01:32:40.000 When she's not cutting weight.

01:32:41.000 That's a tough one for him.

01:32:42.000 She definitely beat his ass. 1.00

01:32:44.000 He admitted that.

01:32:45.000 You know she could beat your ass, right? 1.00

01:32:48.000 You know she put her hands on you, right? 0.98

01:32:50.000 Yeah, he loves her, man.

01:32:52.000 She's a killer. 1.00

01:32:53.000 Killer.

01:32:54.000 That was a long-ass card, though.

01:32:55.000 And what I was watching on the East Coast in Florida, dude, the cards get done late there.

01:33:00.000 It was like 1 a.m.

01:33:01.000 by the time Connor was walking out, yeah?

01:33:03.000 Yeah, Jamie was there.

01:33:04.000 We couldn't get somewhere to eat.

01:33:06.000 We tried to get into the first restaurant.

01:33:07.000 It was goddamn packed.

01:33:09.000 At 2 o'clock, 2.30 in the morning, we wound up at Katz's Deli, because Katz's Deli is 24-7.

01:33:14.000 It was hard to find food.

01:33:16.000 It was mobbed.

01:33:17.000 Everywhere was mobbed.

01:33:17.000 It's crazy how late it got done for the East Coast.

01:33:20.000 Well, New York is just different.

01:33:21.000 New York bars stay open, I think, till 4. Florida's till 5. Did you know that?

01:33:27.000 Oh, Florida was crap.

01:33:28.000 Florida was popping.

01:33:29.000 Everything was great, and I was exhausted.

01:33:32.000 I was like, how are you going, man?

01:33:33.000 Two hours of sleep and got on a plane.

01:33:35.000 I was exhausted, man.

01:33:36.000 Yeah, especially if you're in Southern Florida.

01:33:38.000 Southern Florida is ridiculous.

01:33:39.000 That's where we're at.

01:33:40.000 And then it's like...

01:33:41.000 That, and then with the time change in LA, you're just all messed up.

01:33:45.000 But that's why sports, and obviously not in football, but the Heisman vote and stuff like that on the East Coast, it's so late.

01:33:54.000 I don't see a lot of it.

01:33:55.000 Or they don't see a lot of the Monday night football or college games because it's just so damn late.

01:34:00.000 I feel like there's a better route to go.

01:34:02.000 Uh, nope.

01:34:04.000 Obviously they would do it if it was, right?

01:34:05.000 Yeah.

01:34:06.000 Well, the East Coast doesn't mind staying up late, and the West Coast demands it be on their schedule.

01:34:11.000 How does the West Coast get to demand that stuff?

01:34:13.000 More people that film things out here.

01:34:16.000 Good point, sir.

01:34:17.000 Yeah, and if they did it on the East Coast schedule, it happened too early.

01:34:21.000 You would lose money.

01:34:22.000 Like, if you had a show at 5, people are not done working.

01:34:25.000 Like, people that have to work on Saturday, they're still at work.

01:34:28.000 It's true.

01:34:28.000 So it can't be at 4, which would be if it was their time, our time, it was 7 p.m.

01:34:34.000 And then all of a sudden you also have to think about the undercard.

01:34:37.000 What if somebody wants to watch the undercard?

01:34:39.000 On FS1, you're not going to pay for the undercard.

01:34:41.000 FS1's going to be, hey, listen, bitch, you can't put the undercard on at 10 in the morning. 1.00

01:34:45.000 Nobody wants to watch that shit.

01:34:46.000 They've done it, you know, when they're in Brazil or some shit like that.

01:34:49.000 But they'll get mad.

01:34:50.000 People get mad.

01:34:50.000 That's true.

01:34:51.000 You're not going to get the mass audience.

01:34:52.000 It's obviously working.

01:34:53.000 Yeah, and the East Coast stays up.

01:34:54.000 They always stay up.

01:34:55.000 Dude, how crazy that Matt Square Garden, after the fight, the lights on the stadium, which they've never done before in the arena, were Irish colors for Conor McGregor.

01:35:04.000 It's pretty intense.

01:35:07.000 Brian and I were arguing this.

01:35:08.000 Do you think Conor McGregor is more well-known than Floyd Mayweather currently?

01:35:14.000 Yes.

01:35:16.000 Because boxing's a bigger sport.

01:35:18.000 Yeah, it is.

01:35:19.000 You look at Floyd Manny, like the pay-per-view numbers, destroys anything Conor's ever been close to.

01:35:25.000 That's true.

01:35:26.000 Maybe not.

01:35:27.000 Maybe no.

01:35:28.000 I was arguing Conor is bigger.

01:35:30.000 Because of social media and stuff like that.

01:35:32.000 But Floyd has more followers on Instagram, Twitter, but you can't judge it off that.

01:35:36.000 Here's the thing.

01:35:37.000 The amount of excitement that Floyd generates does not even fucking compare to the amount of excitement that Conor generates.

01:35:42.000 That doesn't mean he's more popular.

01:35:44.000 I understand, but it does kind of.

01:35:45.000 Because the intensity of the popularity, the love, people might know who Floyd Mayweather is, but when it comes to how many people love Floyd Mayweather, it's not even close.

01:35:54.000 It might be like some ridiculous 10 to 1 or 20 to 1. Because when Conor gets out there, they go fucking crazy.

01:36:00.000 Crazy.

01:36:09.000 It's not fun.

01:36:10.000 It's not fun.

01:36:22.000 He's a Hall of Famer.

01:36:24.000 Hall of Famer.

01:36:31.000 This is why I think Connor's bigger and more distant because...

01:36:35.000 You just bailed on that word.

01:36:37.000 I did.

01:36:38.000 Sorry, man.

01:36:38.000 Transcend it.

01:36:39.000 Transcend it.

01:36:39.000 Because I just bailed, right?

01:36:41.000 Just fucking out.

01:36:42.000 You like that?

01:36:42.000 I do that sometimes.

01:36:43.000 I was just like, yeah, I'm out.

01:36:44.000 I think I'm using it wrong.

01:36:46.000 I'm like, I'm feeling that.

01:36:47.000 And Rogan, go!

01:36:49.000 And Operation Eject.

01:36:50.000 You! 0.99

01:36:52.000 But how many successful black athletes do we know?

01:36:57.000 Joe Gillen.

01:36:58.000 How many white Irish superstars do we know?

01:37:01.000 One.

01:37:02.000 Yeah, one.

01:37:03.000 One, sir.

01:37:03.000 Barry McGuigan was a big star before he came to the United States, and he came to the United States.

01:37:08.000 Eventually lost his belt, but Barry McGuigan at one point in time was a huge star, but nowhere near the star that Conor is worldwide.

01:37:17.000 This goes for all athletes.

01:37:19.000 Conor's the green elephant in the room.

01:37:21.000 Everyone else we've seen before, everyone else we know what they can kind of do.

01:37:24.000 Conor's this green elephant amongst all these gray elephants, and there's nothing like him.

01:37:29.000 Totally different thing.

01:37:30.000 Totally different animal.

01:37:31.000 It's crazy.

01:37:31.000 He's an elephant with two fucking trunks.

01:37:33.000 He's got fifteen dicks. 0.76

01:37:35.000 Fifteen dicks, two trunks. 0.92

01:37:36.000 And a bag of gold.

01:37:37.000 With a leprechaun outfit on it.

01:37:38.000 Correct.

01:37:38.000 Hi!

01:37:39.000 And now he has a little son on the way.

01:37:41.000 And they gave him a fucking Rolls Royce with his face on it.

01:37:43.000 How crazy is that?

01:37:45.000 What's interesting is how well he manages it all.

01:37:47.000 It's really interesting.

01:37:48.000 You know, like, the pressure in particular.

01:37:50.000 He doesn't seem to have a problem with it at all.

01:37:52.000 Isn't it weird?

01:37:53.000 That's what makes him so special, because that magnitude and the pressure, he has to deliver and he has to do those antics and then back it up, but he keeps pulling it off.

01:38:02.000 At the press conference, I was like, this is stupid, man.

01:38:05.000 This is getting old to me.

01:38:06.000 But then when he pulls off, I'm like, that was brilliant.

01:38:08.000 And, you know, I mean, the guy steps in, he loses to Diaz, right?

01:38:12.000 Takes the Diaz fight on short notice.

01:38:13.000 Oh, by the way, after a staph infection, here's something a lot of people don't even know.

01:38:17.000 He had a pretty significant staph infection.

01:38:18.000 It was on antibiotics until, like, I think two weeks before the fight.

01:38:21.000 If you don't think that drains your gas tank, you never had a staph infection, and you never had to take antibiotics.

01:38:26.000 Antibiotics are brutal on your on your respiratory system.

01:38:29.000 Yeah, they're brutal on your whole body.

01:38:31.000 It's just your body.

01:38:31.000 No energy.

01:38:32.000 Yeah.

01:38:33.000 Your body's made up of all this shit that you don't consider to be you, but it is you.

01:38:37.000 Stomach flora is a real part of you.

01:38:40.000 You know, your body is essentially like an ecosystem.

01:38:42.000 And when you have a staph infection, staph infections are dangerous as fuck.

01:38:46.000 And people die from them.

01:38:48.000 So they hit you with some heavy-duty antibiotics.

01:38:50.000 I've had staph twice.

01:38:52.000 And it's not fun.

01:38:53.000 And the first time I had it and I took the medication, I couldn't believe how I felt.

01:38:58.000 It was so weird.

01:38:59.000 I felt lightheaded.

01:39:00.000 I felt weak.

01:39:01.000 I was like, whoa.

01:39:02.000 You're drained, right?

01:39:03.000 You have no energy.

01:39:04.000 It's super strong stuff, too.

01:39:06.000 And I was like, wow, imagine this guy fighting two weeks after this.

01:39:09.000 It's insane.

01:39:09.000 Because there's no way you peak correctly.

01:39:11.000 No.

01:39:11.000 So he comes from that, and then he fights Nate again.

01:39:15.000 You know, a few months later in a fucking crazy five-round war and beats him by the narrowest of margins, right?

01:39:22.000 Don't you agree?

01:39:23.000 Yeah, that was a very narrow.

01:39:25.000 Very close fight where some people thought that Nate won.

01:39:28.000 I didn't think he did, but a super close fight.

01:39:31.000 I thought the decision was correct, but I was like, wow, that's a close fight.

01:39:34.000 So, takes that fucking crazy chance, comes back and fights that guy.

01:39:38.000 Conor weighed 169. That's what he weighed when he weighed in.

01:39:40.000 That's what he weighed during the fight.

01:39:42.000 And they wanted him to fight at 55. He goes, no, no, no, I can beat him at 70. Let me do 70. Nate weighed probably around 190-something.

01:39:48.000 I mean, he did.

01:39:49.000 I mean, everybody says that Nate is a 155-pounder.

01:39:51.000 He is, 100%.

01:39:53.000 But he's a way bigger man than Conor is.

01:39:57.000 He just is.

01:39:58.000 So it's like, who's going to weigh more when they actually get in there?

01:40:01.000 Nate's going to weigh more.

01:40:02.000 So he does that, and then goes from there and just starches Eddie Alvarez.

01:40:09.000 Like a world-beater.

01:40:10.000 And just so relaxed and loose in there.

01:40:14.000 So amazing.

01:40:15.000 Fucking Madonna was at the show. 1.00

01:40:17.000 Madonna was at the fucking show.

01:40:19.000 Madonna was at the fights.

01:40:20.000 How crazy is that?

01:40:21.000 Madonna's Instagramming.

01:40:22.000 Mama, we made it.

01:40:24.000 Mama, we made it.

01:40:25.000 It's red panty night.

01:40:26.000 It's red panty night and Madonna, you're up.

01:40:28.000 I think she's single.

01:40:30.000 Where the fuck is my second belt?

01:40:31.000 I envisioned this.

01:40:33.000 Where the fuck is me belt?

01:40:34.000 Nuts, man.

01:40:35.000 Yeah.

01:40:35.000 It's fucking nuts.

01:40:36.000 He's a character, man.

01:40:37.000 He's such a character.

01:40:40.000 I thought he was going to make a big announcement.

01:40:41.000 I thought his announcement was he's going to retire.

01:40:44.000 But his announcement was like, if I'm going to continue doing this, you guys need a share of the company.

01:40:49.000 Yeah, that's probably what the announcement was going to be all along, that he wants a piece of the pie.

01:40:54.000 I mean, he's got an argument that he probably should get a percentage of the promotion.

01:40:59.000 Because what they're selling is Conor McGregor.

01:41:02.000 They're selling the UFC plus Conor McGregor.

01:41:04.000 The question is, how much of that card, what would it be?

01:41:08.000 We don't know what the numbers are, so let's pretend the number is two million, which would be the greatest card of all time, right?

01:41:14.000 Probably wouldn't hit that.

01:41:15.000 I don't know.

01:41:16.000 I bet it's around one seven.

01:41:18.000 Let's just say two million because it's easy to...

01:41:20.000 Correct, sir.

01:41:20.000 So let's say that.

01:41:21.000 What percentage bought it because of Conor?

01:41:24.000 It might be a million.

01:41:25.000 One million plus for sure.

01:41:26.000 Might be.

01:41:26.000 One million plus for sure.

01:41:27.000 Literally might be.

01:41:28.000 One million plus for sure.

01:41:29.000 So one million people might have bought the pay-per-view specifically because of one human being.

01:41:34.000 That is not outrageous to say.

01:41:36.000 But this is the other thing in Conor's favorite.

01:41:39.000 Name another star who can do that.

01:41:41.000 Rhonda can't quite do that. 1.00

01:41:43.000 She can't quite do it.

01:41:44.000 And she's talking about, this might be my last fight, blah, blah, blah.

01:41:48.000 I don't think she said that.

01:41:49.000 I think she said she's close to the end of her career.

01:41:50.000 A few less, right?

01:41:51.000 Which, when you hear that, right?

01:41:53.000 Like you were talking about having one foot out, blah, blah, blah.

01:41:55.000 So let's say she has two fights left. 1.00

01:41:58.000 Maybe three.

01:41:59.000 Who knows?

01:41:59.000 But she's not the same draw as Conor.

01:42:00.000 It's just not...

01:42:01.000 You look at the numbers, she's just not the same draw.

01:42:04.000 But if she comes back, beats Amanda Nunez, armbars her. 0.98

01:42:08.000 And then fights Cyborg?

01:42:09.000 And then fights Holly.

01:42:10.000 Beats Holly, gets her rematch, armbars her. 1.00

01:42:13.000 She's still not as big as Conor.

01:42:14.000 You don't know that.

01:42:15.000 Because as that happens...

01:42:17.000 Do you like to bet, Mr. Joe Rogan?

01:42:18.000 But here's the thing.

01:42:19.000 As these people win, their star gets more and more giant.

01:42:23.000 As Ronda...

01:42:24.000 If Ronda came back and started winning again, her star would get more and more giant. 0.94

01:42:28.000 It would get bigger.

01:42:28.000 It would fuel more.

01:42:29.000 The more bodies she claims, the more fuel her fire will have. 1.00

01:42:33.000 That is what happens all the time.

01:42:34.000 I mean, it's pure speculation.

01:42:36.000 It really is.

01:42:37.000 But if she can win the way Conor's been winning, if she can win in spectacular fashion, or the way she was winning when she fucked up Alexis Davis and Sarah McMahon, Merkin girls. 0.99

01:42:45.000 Merkin girls. 0.85

01:42:45.000 And then she cuts to 115. She could never make, but you know what I'm saying. 0.85

01:42:50.000 You don't think she could?

01:42:50.000 Fuck no.

01:42:51.000 Why not?

01:42:52.000 She's way too big.

01:42:54.000 But is she?

01:42:54.000 Okay.

01:42:55.000 Yeah, because she looks really rough at the weigh-in sometimes at 35. That's just nothing fathomable.

01:43:03.000 If for Conor, and again, I'm not rooting for favorites, I'm just saying it from a business standpoint, for Conor, he's such a big draw.

01:43:10.000 What's going to help him in his negotiating power if Ronda were to lose this next fight?

01:43:14.000 Because then he's like, I'm the only motherfucker in town.

01:43:17.000 You guys were claiming me and Ronda?

01:43:18.000 That's cool.

01:43:19.000 She just lost.

01:43:20.000 I need my fucking money.

01:43:21.000 And by the way, Ronda has a tough fight in front of her. 0.63

01:43:24.000 Amanda Nunes is goddamn scary. 1.00

01:43:26.000 She's a scary girl.

01:43:27.000 And she was the one that I was saying before Ronda lost to Holly.

01:43:31.000 I was saying she should have got the title fight. 0.97

01:43:32.000 And I said that I think she's the most dangerous one. 0.93

01:43:35.000 Yeah, and I was talking shit to you.

01:43:36.000 The way she stops Sarah McMahon.

01:43:37.000 She cracks Sarah McMahon with that right hand. 1.00

01:43:39.000 Yeah, she hits like a Mack Chuck. 1.00

01:43:40.000 She hits like a dude. 1.00

01:43:42.000 Well, Cyborg hits like a dude.

01:43:44.000 Amanda hits like a strong girl. 1.00

01:43:45.000 Big difference.

01:43:48.000 Cyborg hits like Tyrone Woodley with braids. 0.78

01:43:53.000 Let's be real.

01:43:53.000 She hits so hard and gets no love because she's so goddamn scary and can't make the weight.

01:43:58.000 She also has a better arsenal.

01:44:01.000 She'll throw kicks and knees and elbows. 1.00

01:44:03.000 She also has a black belt on the ground.

01:44:03.000 Yeah.

01:44:04.000 I think Amanda is too, yeah?

01:44:05.000 Amanda is.

01:44:06.000 But Amanda has lost on the ground before. 1.00

01:44:08.000 She got beat up by Kat Singano on the ground. 1.00

01:44:10.000 Correct.

01:44:11.000 Cyborg will rip your limbs off. 0.94

01:44:13.000 Yeah.

01:44:13.000 But she's getting no love.

01:44:15.000 She's too big.

01:44:16.000 I know.

01:44:16.000 It sucks for her.

01:44:17.000 They need a 155. Well, 150. Well, again, if they did that whole thing where I'm talking about the eliminated weight cuts...

01:44:24.000 There'd be two girls. 1.00

01:44:25.000 Cyborg would fight at like 180. Cyborg would fight at 180 and it'd be her and that big-ass girl, Gabby Garcia. 1.00

01:44:31.000 Gabby Garcia fights at 280. But that's all we got for you. 0.98

01:44:34.000 Gabby would have to cut weight to make heavy weight. 1.00

01:44:35.000 You and Gabby fight every other weekend.

01:44:37.000 How about that?

01:44:38.000 Like Tim, Sylvia, and Andrei Orlovsky.

01:44:40.000 Let's do that.

01:44:41.000 Tim, Sylvia, versus Andrei Orlovsky.

01:44:43.000 Them and Frank, they were fighting every other weekend.

01:44:46.000 Yeah, the old days.

01:44:47.000 The old days.

01:44:48.000 But I think for Ronda, the Amanda Nunes fight, stylistically, again, we don't know where Ronda's mental state is at, but stylistically, it's a great matchup for Ronda.

01:44:59.000 You think so?

01:44:59.000 Yeah, I think if she comes ready, prepared, has a good camp, she mercs her.

01:45:03.000 But don't you think that you look at the way she fucked up Misha Tate, you're like, that girl presents a lot of danger with those punches, especially considering what happened with Holly and Ronda.

01:45:11.000 Yeah, but yeah.

01:45:12.000 I think she presents a lot of danger.

01:45:15.000 100%, Joe.

01:45:15.000 I think you're right on that.

01:45:16.000 But I think her marching forward is the perfect antidote to get murked by Ronda. 1.00

01:45:21.000 Because she's like, oh, come get some of this judo, then I'm going to armbar your ass. 1.00

01:45:24.000 Right.

01:45:24.000 If she marches forward.

01:45:26.000 Which is really all she knows how to do.

01:45:28.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:45:29.000 It could be interesting.

01:45:30.000 It's a great fight either way.

01:45:31.000 It's also interesting to see where Ronda's head is now that she's coming back.

01:45:35.000 That's the X Factor.

01:45:36.000 Because if it's Ronda 100%, she beats her, I think, 9 out of 10 times. 1.00

01:45:39.000 Strong words.

01:45:39.000 I know.

01:45:40.000 But if it's Ronda who's kind of, I want to do movies, I want to do this, this isn't for me, you're going to get murked.

01:45:45.000 Because that girl hit so hard. 0.77

01:45:46.000 Well, what Rhonda has and what Ioana has, and not a whole lot of other women have it, is one thing that they do where they're really fucking good at it, and then they have all those other stuff. 1.00

01:45:58.000 Correct.

01:45:58.000 Whereas Paige Van Zandt is kind of learning the whole sport.

01:46:01.000 She's learning the whole thing as she goes.

01:46:03.000 But what Paige has is just toughness.

01:46:06.000 And she's hot. 1.00

01:46:08.000 Ridiculously hot.

01:46:09.000 That definitely helps.

01:46:10.000 But there's not other girls, you know, other than Valentina, Valentina Shevchenko.

01:46:16.000 She's another one who's badass, who's another super powerful striker. 1.00

01:46:20.000 I mean, the way she handled Holly Holm standing up.

01:46:22.000 I know, man.

01:46:23.000 Yeah, handled her.

01:46:24.000 Just countered her at will.

01:46:26.000 That looping left hook, that check hook that she throws off the right side. 1.00

01:46:29.000 Yeah, she's another one, but they need more of those. 0.92

01:46:34.000 I agree.

01:46:34.000 That's where Mackenzie Dern fits in.

01:46:36.000 Exactly.

01:46:37.000 Mackenzie Dern coming to work, and she's gorgeous. 0.93

01:46:39.000 But I'm saying if Connor's like, listen, I don't wish bad on anyone, but if Ronna were to lose, we'd throw in a party in Ireland.

01:46:46.000 Because I'm the only show in town now.

01:46:50.000 Give me my fucking piece of the pie.

01:46:51.000 Well, nobody has that sort of personality that he has.

01:46:54.000 No one, ever.

01:46:55.000 I think even he eclipses Ali.

01:46:56.000 I think he eclipses all of them.

01:46:58.000 I think he's bigger than Chael Sonnen, for sure, as far as his ability to talk shit.

01:47:03.000 He's better than all of them.

01:47:04.000 I think he is.

01:47:06.000 I think he's better than Ali.

01:47:07.000 But Ali stood for a different thing, right?

01:47:09.000 He did.

01:47:10.000 His message is more important when you fight for equal rights.

01:47:13.000 He's also fighting to stop the Vietnam War.

01:47:15.000 Correct.

01:47:15.000 There's bigger times.

01:47:17.000 He had several things going for him that were bigger.

01:47:19.000 Correct.

01:47:20.000 Conor has white privilege.

01:47:22.000 Yeah.

01:47:23.000 His nice suits.

01:47:24.000 Nice suits.

01:47:25.000 The government's not trying to send him over to fight in a war.

01:47:27.000 He's not even American. 0.99

01:47:28.000 They're not stripping his belt for how long?

01:47:30.000 Three years.

01:47:31.000 Three fucking years in his prime.

01:47:32.000 In his prime.

01:47:33.000 That's like basically taking the belt from Conor right now and going, three years, we'll see you soon.

01:47:36.000 And then he comes back in three years after not having trained at all.

01:47:39.000 Ali didn't even work out for three years, because when Ali wasn't fighting, he was like, why would I work out?

01:47:43.000 Well, fucked up, sir.

01:47:45.000 And he was never the same, was he?

01:47:46.000 No.

01:47:47.000 Not only was he not the same, he didn't have the footwork anymore, he didn't have the endurance anymore.

01:47:51.000 He didn't have the fire, really.

01:47:52.000 He came back, you look at his body when he came back and fought, he fought Jerry Quarry.

01:47:55.000 Smooth.

01:47:56.000 Yeah, smooth.

01:47:57.000 That's what's scary, not scary, but to be interesting to see what happens with Jon Jones.

01:48:02.000 Yeah.

01:48:06.000 Yeah.

01:48:11.000 Sometimes he does, but he goes, he'll never be a main event again.

01:48:15.000 We can't book him as the main event because we can't trust him anymore.

01:48:18.000 Wow.

01:48:19.000 I know, right?

01:48:20.000 So for John, granted he's doing that flow grappling event against...

01:48:24.000 Get the fuck out of here.

01:48:25.000 That flow grappling, he could have been fighting for the UFC heavyweight title.

01:48:28.000 Oh no, I'm just saying, at least he's doing something active.

01:48:30.000 At least he's not Muhammad Ali.

01:48:32.000 Yeah, I guess.

01:48:32.000 He's lost millions of dollars, but at least he's doing something...

01:48:36.000 In combat sports.

01:48:37.000 Well, he's only suspended for a year retroactively.

01:48:39.000 July.

01:48:40.000 It's up in July.

01:48:41.000 Yeah, so he has to get, I think, July 16. But still, it's been a while, because remember, before that, he did that huge laugh before you see 200. I know.

01:48:47.000 So when he comes back, it's going to be interesting to see what we get out of him.

01:48:50.000 I know, and then he came back, and he fought Ovin St. Preux, and, you know, looked kind of tentative, and then you saw Jimmy Manoa run through Ovin St. Preux.

01:48:58.000 All these guys are getting better.

01:49:00.000 They're getting better.

01:49:00.000 They're rising up, and Rumble's fighting DC for the title again.

01:49:05.000 That's going to be a real interesting fight.

01:49:06.000 Super interesting.

01:49:08.000 Remember, Rumble did land that huge shot in DC and flattened him.

01:49:11.000 Yeah, who knows?

01:49:12.000 In this fight, he's got Neil Melanson in his corner now.

01:49:14.000 He's had him for a few years now.

01:49:16.000 He's worked a lot on his grappling.

01:49:18.000 I guarantee you he's concentrated a lot more on his wrestling.

01:49:20.000 There's a lot of videos of him running wrestling drills.

01:49:22.000 Wrestling nonstop.

01:49:23.000 Yeah, so he's preparing.

01:49:24.000 He's preparing to get up.

01:49:25.000 He's preparing for takedown defense.

01:49:26.000 It's a fun fight, man.

01:49:27.000 It's a toss-up for me.

01:49:28.000 Toss-up.

01:49:29.000 And then Jon Jones has all this laugh.

01:49:31.000 He comes back and let's say Rumble, for a reason, wins.

01:49:34.000 He's like, what's up, man?

01:49:35.000 Yeah, let's do it.

01:49:36.000 Well, why do you think he's going to get a straight shot at the title?

01:49:38.000 I don't even know if he would get a straight shot at the title upon coming back.

01:49:42.000 That's what everyone wants to see, though, isn't it?

01:49:44.000 Maybe.

01:49:44.000 That's what the fans demand.

01:49:45.000 There might be something going on by then.

01:49:47.000 By the time this time rolls around next year, or July rolls around, so he's free in July.

01:49:53.000 See, I don't know how suspensions work, but what had been explained to me is performance-enhancing drug suspensions don't even allow you to train with other fighters around the roster.

01:50:04.000 Really?

01:50:05.000 Yes.

01:50:05.000 When your suspension is up, then you can train with them.

01:50:08.000 I don't think you're even supposed to be sparring with them.

01:50:10.000 What?

01:50:11.000 Once they hand down a suspension...

01:50:12.000 They don't have that regulation, do they?

01:50:13.000 I don't know about that, man.

01:50:14.000 Is that right?

01:50:15.000 Look that up, Jamie.

01:50:16.000 I don't think that's true.

01:50:17.000 We're going to wrap this up soon.

01:50:18.000 Yeah, I don't think that's true.

01:50:20.000 I hope it's not, because it's crazy.

01:50:22.000 Because you can help your teammates, even if you're suspended, you can still train and help your teammates.

01:50:25.000 And also sharpen your sword a little bit.

01:50:27.000 Yeah, it's like telling a guy who's an accountant, you're suspended for a year, you can't even touch a calculator.

01:50:32.000 Where at night, he's touching calculators.

01:50:34.000 Yeah, he's gonna touch them.

01:50:35.000 Yeah, go and touch that TI-83.

01:50:37.000 Click, click, click, click.

01:50:37.000 Ooh, you know the novel number.

01:50:38.000 Touch that TI-83 Texas instrument.

01:50:41.000 No, they used to make them.

01:50:43.000 I remember those.

01:50:44.000 Now it's on your phone.

01:50:46.000 Now your phone's like a thousand times better.

01:50:48.000 Yeah, fuck a calculator.

01:50:48.000 That TI-83 was like a fucking elongated Game Boy.

01:50:52.000 Yeah, like the calculator business, man, they took a hit.

01:50:55.000 Fuck!

01:50:56.000 They're no longer around.

01:50:58.000 Yeah, who's buying calculators?

01:50:59.000 They're like Blockbuster.

01:51:00.000 There's none of them left, man.

01:51:01.000 It's over.

01:51:02.000 Does it say anything, Jamie?

01:51:03.000 See anything?

01:51:04.000 The first article I clicked on was the one from last year.

01:51:07.000 I don't think so.

01:51:08.000 But the other thing, to your point, where you don't think who says he'll get a title shot, the light heavyweight division is just L. Dinosaurs besides the top few guys.

01:51:19.000 They're so old.

01:51:21.000 John's like, I'm not fucking fighting Shogun again.

01:51:24.000 I don't know.

01:51:25.000 How dare you?

01:51:26.000 But Jimmy Manon was a very dangerous fight for anybody right now.

01:51:29.000 He's a dangerous fight for John, too.

01:51:32.000 You are reaching, sir.

01:51:33.000 No, I'm not.

01:51:34.000 You are reaching.

01:51:35.000 The way Manon lit up Ovin St. Preux.

01:51:37.000 Did you see what happened when he fought Gustvin?

01:51:39.000 He got cracked.

01:51:40.000 Yeah, did you see what happened when he fought Rumble?

01:51:42.000 He got cracked.

01:51:43.000 He got dealt with.

01:51:43.000 When he fought Upper Estron, he got dealt with.

01:51:45.000 Right, it's part of the game.

01:51:46.000 Well, Ovin St. Preux just went fucking the full distance with John Jones in a tough fight.

01:51:51.000 With a sleepy John Jones.

01:51:52.000 And had a broken arm.

01:51:54.000 Yeah.

01:51:55.000 Got his arm broken in that fight, too.

01:51:56.000 John broke that arm by throwing kicks, right?

01:51:58.000 Yeah, but my point is, he went the distance, and St. Pru took him out pretty quick.

01:52:02.000 I think he's dangerous.

01:52:04.000 Not St. Pru, rather.

01:52:05.000 Jimmy Manoa took him out pretty quick.

01:52:06.000 I think Manoa was super dangerous. 1.00

01:52:09.000 Very fluid.

01:52:09.000 Very fluid with his striking.

01:52:11.000 It'd be a dangerous first round for John in his comeback fight.

01:52:13.000 I think taking him down and beating him up on the ground would be John's best time.

01:52:17.000 100%.

01:52:17.000 He's going to trip him, throw him to the ground, and submit him.

01:52:19.000 Also, John's different than anybody else in his length and his ability to use it.

01:52:23.000 Doesn't get hit, really.

01:52:24.000 And his wrestling's so fucking good.

01:52:27.000 He's just so long and strong.

01:52:29.000 Just not scared to go to the ground with anybody.

01:52:31.000 But you look at light heavyweight divisions hurting the most out of anyone, I think.

01:52:35.000 You go down the roster, like, God, dog, we need some new blood in this bitch. 1.00

01:52:39.000 Yeah, you might be right.

01:52:41.000 The main event in Brazil is...

01:52:44.000 Ryan Bader's Little Nog.

01:52:45.000 Little Nog's like, yeah, I'll fucking do it. 0.99

01:52:47.000 Yeah, I'll do it.

01:52:47.000 I've been fighting for 35 years.

01:52:49.000 Yeah, when is Little Nog?

01:52:50.000 I move like a goddamn tortoise, but if you want to pay me, I'll still do it.

01:52:54.000 He hasn't taken the same amount of punishment that his brother has, but he's taken some big knockouts.

01:52:59.000 Yeah, hope, hope, hope.

01:53:00.000 Remember when Sokoju knocked him out with a wrist?

01:53:02.000 Oh, my God.

01:53:03.000 He, like, clotheslined him.

01:53:04.000 Yeah.

01:53:05.000 Yeah.

01:53:06.000 And then the Rumble one was just horrendous.

01:53:09.000 Dude, I told you.

01:53:10.000 I was in the back of the locker room warming up Pat Cummings.

01:53:13.000 That motherfucker warmed up by basically doing arm stretches. 1.00

01:53:16.000 Couldn't even hit mitts.

01:53:17.000 He was so stiff.

01:53:18.000 I was like, who's he fighting?

01:53:19.000 The Rumble was like, he can't go out there.

01:53:22.000 I looked at his coach.

01:53:23.000 I'm like, no!

01:53:24.000 No, I can't speak Spanish, but no bueno!

01:53:27.000 Or Portuguese, sorry. 0.98

01:53:29.000 I'm like, you can't go out there, man.

01:53:31.000 I wanted to grab his leg like a three-year-old and not let him walk out to the octagon.

01:53:35.000 I think Brazil is such a huge hotbed for MMA right now.

01:53:39.000 It's so gigantic that they need Brazilian stars.

01:53:42.000 And, you know, for the main event in particular, they just don't have a whole lot of options in the light heavyweight division.

01:53:48.000 Someone fucking wake up, Lil' Nog, out of his slumber. 0.98

01:53:51.000 Because he's recuperating.

01:53:53.000 Lil' Nog or Big Nog? 0.71

01:53:54.000 Lil' Nog. 0.85

01:53:55.000 Because they're waking him up out of slumber.

01:53:57.000 Because Big Nog's done.

01:53:58.000 Little Nog, they woke his ass up and he's like, I'll fight Bader. 1.00

01:54:01.000 I mean, he's probably asking for another fight.

01:54:04.000 But outside of him, what other good light heavyweights from Brazil that are in the UFC that you could sell a main event are?

01:54:11.000 Glover.

01:54:12.000 But they already fought.

01:54:13.000 Right, but Glover just got cracked too.

01:54:15.000 And he should probably take quite a while off after that knockout.

01:54:18.000 That was the kind of knockout that you need to not do nothing for a long time.

01:54:21.000 Yeah, he needs to lay low.

01:54:22.000 Yeah, he got flatlined.

01:54:23.000 I mean, so you got that light heavyweight, you got Shogun, which I don't know what's going on here.

01:54:26.000 I think Shogun's got to be done.

01:54:28.000 If he's not done, he's probably real close to being done.

01:54:30.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:54:30.000 Look at light heavyweight, bro.

01:54:31.000 Go through.

01:54:32.000 In Brazil, though, even more so.

01:54:35.000 As far as Brazilian fighters, as far as fame...

01:54:38.000 Machido got suspended.

01:54:40.000 Machido's suspended and suspended for a long fucking time.

01:54:43.000 Doesn't he have a two-year?

01:54:44.000 I'm not sure.

01:54:45.000 It's not good.

01:54:46.000 I don't know if they've decided or not, but...

01:54:48.000 I felt like he got suspended for two years.

01:54:50.000 I mean, just look at the Brazilian fighters, especially, you're right, light heavyweight.

01:54:54.000 And Machida was going 85 anyway.

01:54:56.000 He can float between 205. I'm just thinking 205 guys he could line up with in Brazil.

01:55:01.000 Yeah, not a lot.

01:55:02.000 Not a whole lot.

01:55:02.000 I mean, Bader already fought Liotto.

01:55:04.000 You could sell that as a rematch, because remember, Liotto knocked him out.

01:55:07.000 In L.A., yeah, bad.

01:55:08.000 Yeah.

01:55:09.000 But he's suspended.

01:55:11.000 You're right, though.

01:55:11.000 Especially, there's not a lot of new blood in Brazil.

01:55:14.000 Look at the faces.

01:55:16.000 Anderson Silva, his leg fell off.

01:55:18.000 He just lost to Bisping.

01:55:20.000 And then you got...

01:55:20.000 Oh, then he lost to DC. So he's basically done.

01:55:23.000 Well, Thomas Almeida was looking really good before Cody Garbrandt came around.

01:55:26.000 Ooh, he murked him.

01:55:27.000 He murked him.

01:55:28.000 Oh, who's homeboy that TJ Dillashaw's fighting?

01:55:30.000 Hits like a fucking Mack truck.

01:55:32.000 John Lineker.

01:55:33.000 Lineker.

01:55:34.000 That's a good fight.

01:55:35.000 That's a good fight.

01:55:35.000 Very good fight.

01:55:36.000 Lineker's terrifying.

01:55:37.000 They told TJ, like, listen, we did think you beat Don McCruz.

01:55:40.000 You're not getting a title shot.

01:55:41.000 We're going to beat Garbrandt.

01:55:42.000 Here's fucking Lineker, though.

01:55:44.000 And if Garbrandt wins and TJ wins, it's a big if on both sides, right?

01:55:49.000 Who knows?

01:55:49.000 It's a big, big if.

01:55:51.000 Especially on the Dominic Cruz side.

01:55:53.000 Good luck hitting that guy. 1.00

01:55:54.000 I know, but if he does land...

01:55:56.000 If he lands, he knocks everybody out.

01:55:57.000 I'm a Garbrandt fan, man.

01:55:58.000 He's my favorite at that weight class.

01:56:00.000 I love that dude.

01:56:00.000 He's an old school, young, at that weight class, 135. He reminds me of Chuck Liddell.

01:56:08.000 He's a fucking savage.

01:56:08.000 But just really small.

01:56:09.000 He's a savage.

01:56:11.000 No doubt.

01:56:12.000 Good looking dude, too.

01:56:13.000 You like him?

01:56:13.000 You like it?

01:56:14.000 I like it.

01:56:15.000 I like the whole package.

01:56:16.000 I like the knockout power.

01:56:18.000 I like that he mercs dudes.

01:56:19.000 Alright, we gotta wrap this up.

01:56:20.000 I gotta get the fuck out of here.

01:56:21.000 Yeah, quit talking about dudes and their physiques.

01:56:23.000 So, Fighter and the Kid, tfatk.com, Brendan Schaub on Twitter, and Instagram.

01:56:30.000 I'm at the Laugh Factory Thursday, son.

01:56:32.000 Oh shit, this Thursday Laugh Factory doing stand-up again.

01:56:35.000 How many times have you been on stage now?

01:56:36.000 By myself like that?

01:56:38.000 Yeah.

01:56:38.000 I mean, I always start stand-up fighting the kids, but I've been at Comedy Store, I think, three times, and this is the first time at Laugh Factory.

01:56:44.000 Oh, shit.

01:56:45.000 You like it?

01:56:46.000 Love it.

01:56:46.000 All right, Thursday, go out.

01:56:48.000 What time's the show?

01:56:49.000 Eight o'clock.

01:56:50.000 If you're in L.A., represent.

01:56:51.000 All right, thanks, brother.

01:56:52.000 Thank you, man.

01:56:53.000 Fun times.

01:56:54.000 Yay! 0.99

01:56:54.000 I missed you. 0.99

01:56:55.000 Love you.

01:56:55.000 I love you, too, man.

01:56:56.000 See you soon.

The Joe Rogan Experience - November 14, 2016

Joe Rogan Experience #871 - Brendan Schaub

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