The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #926 - Joey Diaz & Alberto Gallazzi

00:00:00.000 Um...

00:00:09.000 And we're live.

00:00:09.000 Yeah.

00:00:10.000 What are you doing over there, Joey?

00:00:12.000 Just looking at your book.

00:00:13.000 I've been reading that book lately that's messing with my head.

00:00:16.000 Which one?

00:00:17.000 I even talked about it on the podcast, The War of Art.

00:00:20.000 Oh, yeah.

00:00:20.000 About resistance.

00:00:21.000 So now I catch myself.

00:00:22.000 Every time I want to do something, I catch myself.

00:00:25.000 I've been practicing to look at the resistance levels that comes up.

00:00:29.000 Like different things I need to do.

00:00:31.000 I want to see what excuse I give myself.

00:00:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:00:34.000 It's a normal thing, right?

00:00:35.000 Normal.

00:00:36.000 Mr. Galazzi.

00:00:38.000 How are you?

00:00:38.000 Hawaii, brother.

00:00:39.000 Very nice to meet you, man.

00:00:40.000 My pleasure.

00:00:40.000 Thanks for coming on here, man.

00:00:41.000 I hear fantastic things about you from Joey, from other people.

00:00:45.000 So Joey insisted.

00:00:46.000 He's like, you gotta get this guy in here, dawg. 0.76

00:00:49.000 Thank you. 1.00

00:00:49.000 He's a fucking wizard. 1.00

00:00:50.000 What he did for my shoulders. 1.00

00:00:52.000 What did he do for your shoulders?

00:00:54.000 You know, I've been going to Alberto, and Alberto is the man in Burbank for tactical fitness.

00:01:03.000 They do it in the mornings and the afternoon, but the one kid, Coach Robert, you know, he would just, after class, he would say, Joey, what are you going to do?

00:01:12.000 Are you going to go home, or do you want to do this for a little while?

00:01:14.000 And at first, the first two weeks, the movements were difficult.

00:01:17.000 But then, you know, level one stuff, man.

00:01:20.000 Any age could do it if I could do it.

00:01:22.000 Just laying on the back, lifting your hips and spinning over on your toes and doing it back.

00:01:27.000 And at first, I couldn't even...

00:01:29.000 Look, Joe.

00:01:30.000 I couldn't move my elbows like that.

00:01:31.000 Nothing.

00:01:32.000 My shoulders, my wrists.

00:01:34.000 And I kept staying for the 30-minute thing.

00:01:36.000 Five exercises, three minutes apiece.

00:01:39.000 That's it.

00:01:41.000 No drama.

00:01:42.000 You can be big, heavy.

00:01:44.000 It's all stuff I can do.

00:01:45.000 Picking up your leg, putting it under.

00:01:47.000 All body weight stuff?

00:01:48.000 All body weight stuff that I can handle.

00:01:50.000 If I can handle it on my wrist being 300 pounds, anybody can handle it.

00:01:54.000 Simple stuff.

00:01:56.000 And one day I was getting caught and the guy was pulling me into his guard and magically my hips flew up and I just mysteriously got into sight control and something made me look up and Alberto Crane's jaw dropped and he goes, that's from doing that stuff.

00:02:13.000 You couldn't do that when you walked in here.

00:02:14.000 But I kept going to these 30-minute things.

00:02:17.000 30 minutes, five exercises, three minutes.

00:02:20.000 You're out of there at 1.45.

00:02:21.000 So is this a, like, do you have, like, a system that you bring to a bunch of different places and you have affiliates?

00:02:28.000 Is that how it works?

00:02:29.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm...

00:02:30.000 Pull this right up to you.

00:02:31.000 All right, sorry.

00:02:32.000 It's the first time for me.

00:02:33.000 You've never done a podcast before?

00:02:34.000 No, never.

00:02:34.000 You speak fantastic English for someone who's from Italy.

00:02:38.000 Right, thanks.

00:02:38.000 I lived here years ago.

00:02:41.000 Years ago, yeah.

00:02:42.000 I got married years ago.

00:02:46.000 Be careful, Trump might kick you out now.

00:02:49.000 You've got to be super careful.

00:02:50.000 I've already been out.

00:02:51.000 Back in Europe.

00:02:55.000 I'm representing this system that has been developed by Scott Sonnen.

00:03:00.000 Oh, Scott Sonnen.

00:03:01.000 So it's like Club Bells, a lot of that stuff?

00:03:06.000 We met each other a long time ago, in 1994. And then I was doing security contractor work, that was my line of business at the time.

00:03:14.000 I've always been involved in training, martial arts, and any kind of such training.

00:03:18.000 And, you know, all the injuries I got from competing and...

00:03:23.000 Normal way of lifting.

00:03:26.000 I've lost contact with him for a few years and then I saw him in 2000 coming out with the clubbers.

00:03:32.000 The clubbers really attracted me.

00:03:33.000 It was different tools.

00:03:35.000 I said, OK, I want to get back in contact with these guys.

00:03:38.000 I want to understand how things can help him.

00:03:41.000 So I went back to him and it blew my mind.

00:03:44.000 It blew my mind and helped me to get back in the best shape of my life.

00:03:48.000 I feel now I'm 47. I feel like I can move better, do things better than I used to do when I was 20. So I promised him, you know, I'm going to make these things happen in Europe.

00:03:58.000 You're my coach, you change my way to fitness and I'm going to do that.

00:04:02.000 So between my job and security, I was introducing this to my teams and then I see changing on people, people being able even to just to go moving easier, you know, and then Transfer to whatever it was, our training,

00:04:17.000 handgun or whatever, skills and stuff, everything was easier.

00:04:22.000 So I started to believe.

00:04:24.000 I started to believe, basically, and I started to say, okay, I want to help more people that I can.

00:04:28.000 In my line of duty, in the army, because I still have a different contract as a consultant in the army back home, as a physical trainer, and sometimes also end-to-end combat training.

00:04:41.000 And I start to introduce these things from basic, right?

00:04:44.000 Because the system is very complex.

00:04:46.000 What Joe was talking about is all the mobility.

00:04:49.000 Yeah, mobility is a big factor.

00:04:51.000 It's a big factor because for so long, people have just been concentrating on getting strong or getting in great shape.

00:04:58.000 But, you know, I know people that are in fantastic shape.

00:05:00.000 They can run forever, but they can barely touch their toes.

00:05:03.000 And you develop these bodies that are severely limited in the amount of motion that you can actually get out of your body.

00:05:09.000 In certain motions, you're really good.

00:05:12.000 You might be explosive with a bench press.

00:05:14.000 You might have a great run.

00:05:15.000 But whatever else you're doing to your body, you're compromising all of your overall mobility.

00:05:21.000 So over the last few years, there's been a tremendous amount of concentration and effort.

00:05:33.000 We're good to go.

00:05:46.000 But it's not something that most people really concentrate on.

00:05:49.000 Most people are concentrating on getting stronger, more deadlift, more bench press, more this, more that.

00:05:54.000 But you're compromising all these different areas of your body.

00:05:57.000 Absolutely, I agree with you.

00:05:58.000 That's from Calista Red, right?

00:06:00.000 Yes!

00:06:01.000 That ball right there, it's one of those, I think he calls it the WOD supernova.

00:06:08.000 Yeah, supernova.

00:06:09.000 I got that one too.

00:06:10.000 Fantastic.

00:06:10.000 It seems like nothing, but when you roll around and you find the spot, you release tension in your fascia.

00:06:15.000 Yeah.

00:06:16.000 I put that on the ground, and I do, like, bridges on it.

00:06:19.000 I lie on my back on it, and I put all my weight on that ball.

00:06:23.000 For people just listening, it's a rubber ball that's, like, the size of a softball, and it's really hard, and it's got, like, this textured outer surface, and Kelly developed this to help.

00:06:35.000 He also uses lacrosse balls.

00:06:37.000 That's what he started out with, but I think that's a little bit better than a lacrosse ball.

00:06:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:41.000 I take one of those everywhere with me on the road.

00:06:43.000 Every time I go in a hotel room, that goes in my bag, period. 0.99

00:06:46.000 Because if I work out and I get stiff, if I got something locked up, I need that fucking thing. 0.89

00:06:51.000 That's what I have too in my bag, because all the trouble in flight, every time I get off on some flight, my infraspinatus, my neck, my lower back have the same problem. 0.97

00:07:01.000 I find those things fantastic.

00:07:03.000 Yeah, like you were saying, Joe, What were the things?

00:07:07.000 Years ago, to take to a unit like my community, working with the army or stuff like that, they say, oh, we're going to do mobility.

00:07:14.000 They will look at you like, do we really need that?

00:07:17.000 They're all tough guys.

00:07:18.000 They need to be.

00:07:19.000 They're all thinking about, ah, I need something to get myself stronger, faster.

00:07:23.000 Yeah, but they don't get it.

00:07:24.000 They don't get it if you don't allow yourself to regain the mobility that you're supposed to have.

00:07:29.000 At one point, you're going to be...

00:07:32.000 You're going to be reaching a plateau, you're going to get injured, and you're going to lose those guys in the field.

00:07:36.000 That was my point.

00:07:37.000 Right.

00:07:37.000 And I think the system that Scott created was smart enough to say, you know what?

00:07:41.000 I'm going to introduce this slowly, underneath, because I give you a small amount of mobility, then what you want.

00:07:48.000 You want an high-intensity workout.

00:07:50.000 Okay, so I give you the high-intensity workout.

00:07:52.000 That's tuck fit, high-intensity.

00:07:53.000 But I'm going to teach you how to recover for the...

00:07:57.000 Performance, faster.

00:07:58.000 And then I introduce a little bit of yoga.

00:08:00.000 So you're going to feel better, loosen up when you're leaving.

00:08:03.000 And day by day, those guys, they start to understand.

00:08:06.000 And they start to tell me, you know what?

00:08:08.000 We like the workout.

00:08:09.000 But what we think we need is to be able to move the shoulder again.

00:08:13.000 To be able to, you know, carry a backpack again.

00:08:15.000 And now everybody wants to do mobility more than workout.

00:08:18.000 Because you can kill yourself in a workout.

00:08:20.000 You don't need me to kill. 0.99

00:08:22.000 You know, just throw the daze. 0.72

00:08:23.000 And decide.

00:08:24.000 A little bit of bar peel, a little bit of push up.

00:08:26.000 You don't need really someone to drive you.

00:08:30.000 Yeah, people are understanding now that it's a huge deal.

00:08:33.000 And yoga is huge for me.

00:08:35.000 That's one of the reasons why.

00:08:37.000 I mean, I still use that supernova ball.

00:08:39.000 But man, yoga has had a tremendous effect on my back.

00:08:43.000 It's had a tremendous effect on everything.

00:08:45.000 My overall flexibility is better than it's been in a long time since I was a kid.

00:08:49.000 And I just feel better.

00:08:50.000 It just feels like everything moves better. 1.00

00:08:53.000 You know, but you say yoga to people, and they go, ah, you fucking pussy. 1.00

00:08:57.000 How come you're not doing deadlifts? 1.00

00:08:59.000 You need to do fucking hill sprints. 0.99

00:09:01.000 You know, everybody wants to do something that looks like tough guy stuff, that looks awesome on your Instagram. 1.00

00:09:05.000 You know, everybody wants to do deadlifts with fucking 450. But the reality is, if your body has any weak links, yoga will find those links. 0.97

00:09:15.000 You're going to show it.

00:09:16.000 Yeah, it'll show it right away.

00:09:17.000 I was shocked.

00:09:18.000 You know what the big one for me was?

00:09:20.000 My feet.

00:09:21.000 And this is something that Nick Kurson said as well.

00:09:24.000 Nick Kurson, who's a really well-respected strength and conditioning coach, speed of sport down in, I think he's in Huntington Beach, somewhere in Orange County.

00:09:31.000 But he trains Joe Schilling, Rafael Dos Anjos, Fabricio Verdum, big-time MMA fighters.

00:09:40.000 And kickboxers, and works with Aaron Pico, who's a top-level wrestler, and just a long line of real high-level combat sports athletes.

00:09:49.000 I asked him, I go, what do you think that the one thing that a lot of athletes have that is something they need to improve on?

00:09:56.000 He said, feet strength.

00:09:57.000 Nobody says that.

00:09:58.000 Nobody says that.

00:09:59.000 Everybody's like, work on your cardio, work on your explosiveness. 0.98

00:10:02.000 You gotta be able to, you know, fucking throw more kettlebells around. 0.94

00:10:05.000 He was like, your feet. 0.99

00:10:06.000 Like, think about it.

00:10:08.000 Your motion. 0.99

00:10:08.000 Like, if you can't move out of the way or towards your opponent, you're useless. 0.99

00:10:13.000 Right?

00:10:13.000 If your foot's broken in a fight, you're severely limited.

00:10:17.000 One of the things that I found out almost instantly when I started doing yoga and when I started skiing, my fucking feet would be killing me. 0.97

00:10:23.000 In the beginning of skiing was because my boots were too small, because I have really wide feet, and so my feet would be smashed in there, and it sucked. 0.99

00:10:31.000 And I was like, you know, well, fuck skiing. 0.99

00:10:33.000 I can't do it. 0.99

00:10:34.000 My feet are too wide.

00:10:35.000 Then I got boots that are made for wider feet, and they fit, but my feet would still hurt after a while. 0.99

00:10:40.000 I was like, what the fuck is wrong with my goddamn feet? 0.99

00:10:42.000 Maybe it's just because my feet are flat, and I'm just going to have to deal with that. 1.00

00:10:45.000 No.

00:10:45.000 As soon as I started doing yoga.

00:10:47.000 Now I can ski all day.

00:10:48.000 It doesn't bother me at all.

00:10:49.000 As long as I'm doing yoga twice a week, all that foot problems are gone.

00:10:52.000 They're out the window.

00:10:53.000 Because of the balance.

00:10:54.000 It's pretty funny because I was watching your flow video the other night.

00:10:57.000 Right.

00:10:58.000 Before I came on.

00:10:59.000 Because I didn't have...

00:11:00.000 I wanted to be able to, you know, contribute in this conversation.

00:11:03.000 You guys are two level geniuses for me.

00:11:06.000 So if you watch his flow video, the first thing, he put on some shoes with toes in them.

00:11:11.000 And you're talking about the feet.

00:11:12.000 Before you do anything, he started stretching his feet, and I could see him playing with his toes, and I'm like, you know, I guess this is the...

00:11:19.000 I think it's what he was saying.

00:11:22.000 I hate to keep saying this, but this has got to be...

00:11:24.000 Just pull it around.

00:11:26.000 Pull it around to me.

00:11:26.000 Yeah, right there.

00:11:27.000 It'll be great.

00:11:28.000 It's the real thing, you know what I mean?

00:11:29.000 Everything, everybody don't think about it because we stand on our feet, so we think we're connected to the earth.

00:11:34.000 We are not.

00:11:35.000 We just, it's like I pose this one on the table, but it's not connected.

00:11:38.000 It moves around, but it has no control.

00:11:40.000 Right.

00:11:40.000 We're building the capability to Grabbing the ground, understanding the stability of the foot, the mobility of the toes, and the ankle mobility is mandatory.

00:11:50.000 Because I'm going to transfer power through my feet engagement to the ground, to my leg drive, to my hips, and to my core.

00:11:56.000 So everything comes from the hurt. 0.96

00:11:58.000 These shoes make everybody look gay. 0.96

00:12:00.000 Yeah, man. 0.98

00:12:01.000 There's no way around it.

00:12:02.000 I love them.

00:12:03.000 They're very functional, but they're not sexy at all.

00:12:08.000 I would never get married with those.

00:12:12.000 Well, I always know the real weirdos when I catch them out at night and they're wearing them.

00:12:17.000 If you catch a guy at a bar and he's wearing those shoes, that's a real weirdo.

00:12:21.000 But there's people that do wear those.

00:12:22.000 Is that your gym?

00:12:23.000 What gym is that?

00:12:24.000 That's my XXL gym.

00:12:25.000 Yeah, it's the gym that I'm working with in Europe.

00:12:29.000 That's my headquarter, I say, in Europe.

00:12:32.000 So it's my gym.

00:12:33.000 So this is all what we're looking at here.

00:12:35.000 What's the name of this video, Jamie?

00:12:37.000 Flowfit, yeah.

00:12:38.000 Flowfit, Tactic Flowfit, Alberto Galazzi, Vibram Five Fingers.

00:12:43.000 So you sponsored by Vibram?

00:12:45.000 Yes, I'm an ambassador for them.

00:12:48.000 And that's a very low profile one.

00:12:50.000 It has a very small amount of tread at the bottom of it, right?

00:12:53.000 It's very thin, the one that you've got on.

00:12:55.000 Yeah, because they're different types.

00:12:57.000 Yeah, some of them are for trail running.

00:12:58.000 They're a little thicker.

00:13:00.000 I try to work with them to realize something specifically for flow, because sometimes when they have some rubber on the side, and for some specific flow, especially if you want to focus on your knee, understanding how my knee and my hips work, they get too much friction.

00:13:15.000 Yeah.

00:13:15.000 Why do you use that instead of barefoot?

00:13:18.000 I alternate it.

00:13:21.000 If I want to really go freestyle, move around, I go barefoot, barefoot.

00:13:27.000 There's no traction.

00:13:29.000 But if I train like I do sometimes in the concrete, I need something to really protect my foot in the beginning.

00:13:35.000 Yeah, and dirt and rocks and stuff like that.

00:13:38.000 You know, years ago you told me one of your biggest fears was getting old and feeling weak, you know, and then you and I traveled a lot together.

00:13:46.000 A lot of places we would go to jujitsu places and we'd see the jujitsu guy, the main guy, and he'd be walking a little funny. 0.99

00:13:53.000 Oh, yeah, they're all fucked up. 0.99

00:13:55.000 And that always stuck out in my mind. 0.99

00:13:58.000 Like, why love something so much if in my 60s I'm gonna be limping or walking different.

00:14:04.000 And I think this is maybe, this will help that, you know, as you get older.

00:14:09.000 It'll definitely help that.

00:14:10.000 Really?

00:14:10.000 Yeah, that's one of the reasons why Eddie's gotten so into yoga, too.

00:14:13.000 Eddie's doing yoga three times a week now.

00:14:15.000 And he realizes it after he had back surgery.

00:14:19.000 When people get older in particular, you start realizing the limitations of some of the things that you're doing.

00:14:23.000 You're putting tremendous stress on your body in very specific areas, especially jujitsu.

00:14:27.000 You're attacking the joints all the time.

00:14:29.000 You're attacking the joints, you're attacking your neck, and almost everybody that I know either has a back problem or some sort of a knee problem or a neck problem.

00:14:36.000 It's just a constant issue when it comes to jujitsu.

00:14:39.000 And I feel like the only way to mitigate that is, first of all, roll with people that you know.

00:14:43.000 Like, people that you know, they're good people, they're not gonna try to hurt you, they're not crazy.

00:14:48.000 You know, like, it's not even their fault, but young people in particular. 0.98

00:14:51.000 Like, you get, like, some young 20-year-old kid who's all full of fucking, just... 0.99

00:14:56.000 Some little animal. 1.00

00:14:57.000 They want to kill. 0.99

00:14:59.000 They want to kill. 1.00

00:14:59.000 Like a young guy, when they roll, they roll a fucking full clip. 1.00

00:15:02.000 And you could get a knee caught in a scramble and it gets ripped apart. 0.99

00:15:06.000 It's just super common.

00:15:07.000 So you've got to be real careful with the kind of people you work out with.

00:15:11.000 Make sure that people aren't going to yank on an arm bar or a knee bar or a heel hook or something like that.

00:15:16.000 That's big.

00:15:16.000 But also I think that...

00:15:18.000 Improving your mobility.

00:15:19.000 There's so many times I would go to class, and I would be stiff before I walked in the door. 0.99

00:15:25.000 Before I walked in the door, my back would be fucked up. 0.99

00:15:27.000 I'd get up in the morning, my back would be fucked up. 0.99

00:15:30.000 I'd just be stiff. 0.99

00:15:31.000 And then I'd get in there and start warming up.

00:15:33.000 But jujitsu is so fun.

00:15:35.000 As soon as you get in there, you just do a few movements.

00:15:39.000 Cortisol coming in.

00:15:40.000 It's an inflammatory, so you're ready to go. 0.99

00:15:43.000 Next thing you know, you're like, alright, you slap hands and you're fucking going to war again. 0.98

00:15:46.000 And then you got a worse back, and then you got a worse knee. 0.99

00:15:49.000 That's how I fucked up my back. 0.99

00:15:50.000 I didn't just fuck it up in one thing. 0.98

00:15:52.000 If I had that one incident that it got injured in, I could have eventually healed it.

00:15:57.000 What I did was I just kept doing it, even when I was still hurt.

00:16:00.000 I would just go light.

00:16:02.000 I never went light. 0.98

00:16:04.000 You still go back in there and go hard again, and then fucks it up more.

00:16:08.000 I think that we have to be super aware that our body is a precious resource.

00:16:14.000 And you gotta treat it almost scientifically.

00:16:17.000 Instead of looking at it like, you know, guys like to do curls and bench presses.

00:16:21.000 I mean, how many times have you seen that?

00:16:23.000 Where you see a guy with a meatball upper body with a little toothpick at the bottom that's holding him up with his legs? 0.99

00:16:29.000 Like, you see guys, there's certain guys you see at the gym, and you go, you poor bastard, like, what are you doing to yourself? 0.99

00:16:34.000 Like, you think everything looks good because you've got these big biceps and big chest, but your lower body is virtually useless. 0.99

00:16:40.000 You know, because they don't lift.

00:16:41.000 They don't lift with their lower body.

00:16:42.000 They don't do anything with it.

00:16:44.000 You don't, you gotta treat your body like, like it's a big ol' science project.

00:16:48.000 You have to look at it scientifically.

00:16:51.000 When people ask me, what do you think?

00:16:54.000 What is the project?

00:16:56.000 I don't know.

00:16:56.000 I'm not going to train you.

00:16:58.000 I'm thinking always that everybody of us, we know what our point is.

00:17:02.000 So if I ask you, When you come to the gym, what is your goal?

00:17:06.000 Most of the, especially young people, they know I want to be, I know what is my point B. I want to become faster, stronger, leaner, whatever.

00:17:14.000 You're saying point B? Point B, yeah.

00:17:15.000 Point B, right?

00:17:16.000 Point A to point B. Yeah, we don't really know what is our point A. We think we know, but we don't know.

00:17:21.000 We don't know what's going on inside.

00:17:22.000 We don't know about our hormone tracker, about estrogen, testosterone, cortisol, whatever.

00:17:28.000 We don't know exactly how the fascia Smith set up with us or the joints.

00:17:33.000 If you don't think about that, we're never going to reach point B, or probably we're going to reach it, but going zigzag instead to go straight line, and we're going to face what?

00:17:41.000 Injury, plateau, go back to the losing power, imbalances.

00:17:46.000 That's why I think something like yoga is very important because it highlights those imbalances.

00:17:51.000 And it seems like this kind of particular motion, like your flow like that up there, that would also highlight those particular motions.

00:17:57.000 I see flow, like for me, at the beginning of everything.

00:18:00.000 Why?

00:18:00.000 Because you go through a little bit of joint mobility and then you start to connect the exercise logically and connect it to what?

00:18:06.000 Challenging your breathing.

00:18:07.000 So also your breathing will tell you exactly when you're forcing your breathing through some of the movement, you should be starting to understand and investigate why do I force through this range of motion?

00:18:16.000 Probably something is stiff for me.

00:18:19.000 It might be my joint, it might be my fascia, whatever.

00:18:21.000 It doesn't allow me to flow through one movement to the other movement.

00:18:23.000 Because I'm working sixth degree.

00:18:25.000 I don't just work in a yoga mat, up and down, left and right.

00:18:29.000 I just roll, jump, squat, whatever it is my body is supposed to be doing.

00:18:35.000 I look like the magic eyes picture.

00:18:38.000 For me, the magic eye picture is the one that you look and then you step back.

00:18:40.000 Magic eye pictures, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:18:42.000 For me, it's the body.

00:18:43.000 When I see you standing or do a couple of movements, I can interpret it yourself a little bit, but when you move, Freestyle, now I can understand exactly what's going on with you.

00:18:53.000 Do you drop your knee when you're squatting?

00:18:55.000 Do you know your feet is not connected?

00:18:57.000 You cannot torque your knee when you...

00:18:58.000 You cannot even understand loading one side, unilateral power to one leg to the other.

00:19:03.000 So for me, it's all information that's...

00:19:05.000 For me as a coach, okay, I start to plan out what you should be doing, what kind of exercise, what kind of strength training maybe is needed for you, more stability or more yoga.

00:19:16.000 Because until you are not ready, I will not let you lift or load your body if your body is not even able to hold in your own weight.

00:19:23.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:19:24.000 Most people don't know what their body is capable of doing.

00:19:26.000 There's a lot of people that walk into any kind of a class and they start working out and they might not even know what deficiencies they have because they've been overcompensating for that or compensating.

00:19:36.000 You might have something wrong with your hip and because of that it's putting extra pressures on your knee.

00:19:40.000 You know, one side might be overbalanced.

00:19:42.000 That's one thing you see with a lot of people that have done very specific sports.

00:19:46.000 Like they're very strong on one side, and then the other side of their body is weak.

00:19:49.000 And when you do that, you create these imbalances.

00:19:52.000 You can get some serious injuries because of that.

00:19:55.000 And we take it for granted, you know.

00:19:56.000 How many times you say, okay, my shoulder is in pain, but when I train, no.

00:20:00.000 When I train, I'm good.

00:20:01.000 It's already a senior, you know.

00:20:02.000 You're training, what you're going to do, you're going to release the adrenaline and cortisol.

00:20:05.000 And those are painkillers.

00:20:07.000 They are supposed to make you stronger.

00:20:08.000 You know, fight in the freeze-or-fight situation.

00:20:11.000 That's what the endocrine system is doing to you.

00:20:14.000 But after you're training, you got even worse than.

00:20:17.000 So you need to understand that.

00:20:18.000 As a coach, you should be saying, you know what?

00:20:20.000 We need to fix that.

00:20:21.000 Because it's not good that you start training and working into the pain.

00:20:23.000 Because you're going to create more raw material that's not needed into your body.

00:20:28.000 And for me, it's like holding this bottle.

00:20:30.000 It doesn't weigh nothing.

00:20:31.000 Today, tomorrow.

00:20:33.000 But if I order for one hour, this is becoming heavy.

00:20:35.000 Right.

00:20:36.000 So we adapt to this kind of same level.

00:20:38.000 They didn't change the level of the water in my bottle, but day after day, it's going to kill me.

00:20:43.000 But people, they don't understand because they say, I'm used to.

00:20:46.000 I'm used to don't sleep that hour.

00:20:48.000 I'm used to don't eat enough.

00:20:50.000 I'm used to work in this pain.

00:20:52.000 That's not going to happen.

00:20:53.000 Now, what do you think is the biggest injury that you deal with when you have clients or people that you're working out with?

00:20:59.000 What's the most common?

00:21:00.000 Is it shoulders?

00:21:01.000 Shoulder and knee.

00:21:02.000 Shoulder and knee.

00:21:02.000 Shoulder is more common those days, especially because we all grew up in an era that we all want to pack and shoulder and press.

00:21:11.000 Bench presses.

00:21:13.000 I believe our shoulder is a complex joint, but it's not strong at all.

00:21:16.000 Because we are a vertical animal.

00:21:18.000 We are not like sympathies.

00:21:20.000 It's loading, and if you see the structure, it's holding back.

00:21:23.000 The horse can hold a lot of power on the shoulder.

00:21:25.000 The human being's shoulder is just dropping on the rib cage.

00:21:28.000 It's so weak.

00:21:29.000 And then the simple question is, how many of us can even stand just standing on the wall with the feet on the wall?

00:21:35.000 Some people cannot even hold their weight.

00:21:38.000 You're saying to do a handstand with your feet on the wall?

00:21:40.000 Yeah, just even simple like that.

00:21:41.000 And how many people, even with their feet on the wall, can do a handstand press?

00:21:45.000 Yeah, not that many.

00:21:46.000 Not that many.

00:21:47.000 And if you ask how many of you, 10 out of 10, got shoulder injury, probably now they say, yeah, I got an issue if I've been involved in sports.

00:21:56.000 So weak.

00:21:57.000 It's very complex.

00:21:58.000 A lot of tendon, ligaments, multiple joints.

00:22:01.000 Do you incorporate a lot of hanging?

00:22:03.000 I think hanging is something that people have been really concentrating on over the last few years for shoulder mobility and alleviating impingements.

00:22:11.000 And people listening to this, if you have anything going on with your shoulders, I'm telling you, grab a chin-up bar and hang from that thing.

00:22:17.000 It relaxes your shoulder.

00:22:20.000 It stretches out your joints.

00:22:21.000 And there's several doctors that stopped doing shoulder surgeries.

00:22:25.000 And to alleviate pain, they've started doing hanging exercises and prescribing hanging exercises.

00:22:31.000 It's amazing. 0.98

00:22:32.000 Just grab a chin-up bar, start hanging from that sucker. 1.00

00:22:35.000 You know, he has the... 0.97

00:22:37.000 The class starts at 12, but I go at 11. It's not like a formula to class.

00:22:42.000 I go back to the jump rope just to get oxygen power so I don't pass out.

00:22:47.000 But Alberto will come back there at like 11, 15 and give me homework assignments.

00:22:51.000 And they're always different, Joe.

00:22:53.000 Like some days it's a steel club.

00:22:55.000 Some days I just work on my hands and knees and we incorporate our hips.

00:23:00.000 But some days he puts me on rings.

00:23:02.000 The other day he goes, you got rings at your house?

00:23:05.000 Rings?

00:23:05.000 Like gymnastics rings?

00:23:06.000 Yeah.

00:23:07.000 I go, what wall is going to hold me?

00:23:09.000 I mean, he's got the whole thing.

00:23:10.000 And he just taught me one thing because my biggest weakness is my breathing.

00:23:15.000 From the sleep apnea, I even got hypnotized.

00:23:18.000 I gotta go tomorrow again.

00:23:19.000 You got hypnotized?

00:23:20.000 I've been going to get hypnotized.

00:23:21.000 What's going on?

00:23:22.000 What are they doing?

00:23:23.000 Because from the sleep apnea...

00:23:24.000 You ever wake up with your pants down?

00:23:25.000 No, no, no.

00:23:26.000 It got so severe.

00:23:28.000 Mine was such a bad case.

00:23:29.000 My machine broke a couple weeks ago.

00:23:31.000 My wife had to go pick up the machine for me up in Canoga, and the guy was saying, how's Joey doing?

00:23:37.000 And he goes, you know, that till this day, Joey came in here as one of the worst...

00:23:43.000 Like Joey was in bad shape.

00:23:45.000 You remember what I was going through?

00:23:47.000 Falling asleep on your steering wheel.

00:23:50.000 And that sleep apnea, like whenever my heart gets going in jiu-jitsu, like no other place does my heart get going like that when I'm on the bottom.

00:23:59.000 And so at first when I joined jiu-jitsu, I overcame the panic attacks.

00:24:03.000 So I had to just go, stand on the bottom.

00:24:06.000 Like, I'd force myself to get on the bottom.

00:24:08.000 I'd get like a, whatever you call it, a bridge or whatever they call it, a frame.

00:24:12.000 And I'd breathe and I overcame my fear.

00:24:15.000 But the other fear I had was when I get too wound up, I can't control my breathing.

00:24:20.000 It's when I would get up from the sleep apnea.

00:24:23.000 So I kept thinking about something you said about a couple of podcasts ago about sports psychiatry or something.

00:24:33.000 Sports psychologist.

00:24:34.000 Some people have it.

00:24:35.000 And I did some reading and I said, let me just go alleviate this last fear.

00:24:39.000 I mean, how many feet, you know, I got the needle for you, but last week I got, you know, I still get that thing in my ear.

00:24:44.000 She stuck a needle in my ear to acupuncture to take the fluid out because my ear is not letting my right, my left ear, the fluid out. 0.51

00:24:51.000 So they got to put a little thing there.

00:24:53.000 What kind of fluids in there?

00:24:54.000 Just from taking showers.

00:24:55.000 You know me, I'm obsessed with showers.

00:24:57.000 And I got to put earplugs in my ears when I go in the shower and I go in there for an hour.

00:25:02.000 When California had the drought, I go to Vegas.

00:25:04.000 I got one of those king-size pin showers.

00:25:06.000 I smoke a joint going there for an hour and a half.

00:25:08.000 I write jokes.

00:25:09.000 Oh yeah, I love taking long showers.

00:25:11.000 In the shower, an hour and a half?

00:25:13.000 Best material.

00:25:13.000 Really?

00:25:14.000 Best material ever.

00:25:15.000 You can even practice it in there.

00:25:21.000 That's hilarious.

00:25:21.000 No, but I get fluid stuck in my ear.

00:25:23.000 And last week I went to acupuncture.

00:25:25.000 And she stuck a needle in there, and when she took it out, it relieved the pressure. 0.96

00:25:30.000 Joe, I could feel the blood dripping down my face, and I could hear it hitting the pillow, and I didn't pass out.

00:25:37.000 Oh, okay.

00:25:38.000 Because I want to get these fears out of the way.

00:25:42.000 Back to Tactical Fitness, the rings.

00:25:45.000 He has rings, and Alberto taught me emotion.

00:25:48.000 That it's all about my breathing. 0.68

00:25:50.000 I don't leave my ass on the floor, so I basically pick up my hips as a hip escape, and then I hold that breath, but I pull myself up, I stay there, and then as I alleviate my hips back is when I accept Exhale.

00:26:05.000 And then my arms go down on that one. 0.86

00:26:07.000 So it's a two-point breathing thing.

00:26:09.000 Dog, I do three sets of ten of those.

00:26:11.000 I'm on fire after that.

00:26:12.000 Yeah, I'm a big believer in that.

00:26:14.000 Fire.

00:26:15.000 Breathing is gigantic.

00:26:16.000 It's another thing that seems so simple.

00:26:18.000 It's another thing.

00:26:18.000 You tell people, oh, you've got to do some breathing exercises.

00:26:21.000 People go, I'm not doing that shit. 0.99

00:26:22.000 I'm doing benching, bro. 0.99

00:26:24.000 I'm going to build up my pecs, bro.

00:26:26.000 Right?

00:26:26.000 That's what people do.

00:26:27.000 They don't think that breathing is difficult.

00:26:29.000 But breathing exercises...

00:26:30.000 This is what I tell people.

00:26:31.000 Breathe in for one minute and breathe out for one minute.

00:26:34.000 Tell me that's not hard.

00:26:35.000 Just take a one minute breath in.

00:26:38.000 Look at a clock.

00:26:39.000 And say, ready, go.

00:26:40.000 And then breathe in for one solid minute.

00:26:44.000 Nice and slow.

00:26:46.000 And then breathe out for one minute.

00:26:48.000 Nice and slow. 1.00

00:26:49.000 You're fucking dead. 1.00

00:26:50.000 You're not going to be able to do it. 1.00

00:26:51.000 Most people can hold their breath for a minute, but if you tell them to breathe in for one solid minute, it's really hard to do.

00:26:58.000 And then you go to like a yoga class and you take, you know, yoga deep breathing, like pranayama exercises.

00:27:04.000 They're very difficult.

00:27:05.000 And one of the things that I, when I first started doing yoga, About two years ago, I really started getting into it again.

00:27:11.000 The breathing exercises after class, when you're doing those breathing exercises, it was like my stomach felt soft.

00:27:19.000 It felt like it was kind of weak.

00:27:21.000 It would get tired doing those.

00:27:23.000 I was like, I'm just tired from yoga.

00:27:25.000 Why is my stomach getting tired from breathing out, pushing air out?

00:27:29.000 It's so simple.

00:27:30.000 I do sit-ups and leg lifts and all this different stuff.

00:27:34.000 Why is that difficult?

00:27:35.000 Because it's a different kind of thing.

00:27:37.000 And you're breathing, you're pushing air out with your diaphragm, your abdominal muscles.

00:27:42.000 But now I can do it pretty good.

00:27:43.000 But you get to that Hicks and Gracie point, I'm sure you've seen that.

00:27:47.000 Hicks starts pulling the muscles up in these weird ways and makes them dance.

00:27:51.000 And it's so connected.

00:27:52.000 Brain is connected to your breathing.

00:27:54.000 The heart rate is connected to your breathing.

00:27:56.000 And people don't understand how it's important to regain access to Proper breathing.

00:28:01.000 Yeah.

00:28:01.000 Even for people, they also think, okay, breathing for meditation.

00:28:04.000 I'm not into the holistic type.

00:28:06.000 No, breathing is good for everything.

00:28:09.000 It helps you visualize what you need to do.

00:28:12.000 Reset your norm.

00:28:13.000 You can switch from your parasympathetic to your disympathetic.

00:28:16.000 What are you saying?

00:28:17.000 The what?

00:28:17.000 Parasympathetic?

00:28:18.000 Yeah, in every system.

00:28:19.000 It's like if you breathe correctly, especially under stress, and you need to regain access to your cognitive presence, especially if you need to do something that is more complex.

00:28:28.000 Think about it.

00:28:30.000 Some people, they're just thinking, okay, under the gas response, you know, when my fight or freeze situation rises, and the situation is on, I probably go to my gross motor skills.

00:28:42.000 Yeah, but some people, like an advanced fighter, an operator, they need to go to access to gross motor skills and fine motor skills.

00:28:51.000 Think about it.

00:28:51.000 I'm going to run across this room, and I need to use my gross motor skills to run faster, but I need to understand where am I going to find cover and maybe shoot him back To a target.

00:29:00.000 So now you have fine motor skills on and gross motor skills.

00:29:04.000 I need to be able to get my vertical view on because I can't stay in my tunnel.

00:29:09.000 Your English is tripping me up a little bit.

00:29:12.000 So what you're talking about is big motor skills like running and sprinting and then being able to shoot like a gun and be able to be very precise and very accurate.

00:29:21.000 And understanding and also interpreting what is the people shooting at me from.

00:29:27.000 So that's a complex.

00:29:28.000 That's very complex.

00:29:29.000 So do you have guys do that?

00:29:31.000 Do you have guys like lift weights and then go or do like strenuous physical exercises then go immediately to a range or on a range?

00:29:38.000 We do that.

00:29:38.000 But also, you know, when we start to...

00:29:41.000 What is the importance of learning how to recover fast?

00:29:45.000 Using the breathing.

00:29:46.000 Recovery breathing, like the tactical breathing, something like you were talking about.

00:29:51.000 They used to do a lot.

00:29:53.000 Four seconds in, holding for four seconds, releasing for four seconds, holding for four seconds.

00:29:58.000 It's a very basic way to learn how to get back from the high intensity to above your RA max to, let's say, 85%, something that you can bring back to a cognitive presence so you can make the right decision.

00:30:10.000 So that's what you tell people to do, take a four second in and a four second out so you're like slow controlling of the breathing.

00:30:16.000 That's the beginning of understanding, you know, because we're going to be going...

00:30:20.000 I need to start going into my nose and maybe taking a pose, go out through my mind so that my heart rate would be slowed down.

00:30:29.000 In through the nose, out through the mouth.

00:30:30.000 Yeah, that does seem to somehow or another slow down your heart rate for some reason.

00:30:34.000 Exactly.

00:30:34.000 And that's when your heart rate slows down, it's going to give you a signal back to your brain.

00:30:39.000 Okay, now we switch.

00:30:40.000 Now this is under control so you can make the right decision and you can get back to the fine motor skills if it's needed.

00:30:47.000 Right.

00:30:47.000 And that, obviously, when you're training soldiers, it's got to be one of the most important things to do, to be able to operate under pressure and under, like, physical pressure.

00:30:55.000 And make the right choice.

00:30:56.000 Yes.

00:30:56.000 That's different, you know?

00:30:57.000 The not panicking thing, right?

00:30:59.000 The survival response will tell you, do the things that maybe is more logical to save your life, but sometimes, like, I always use this example.

00:31:07.000 We're going to cross the street right now.

00:31:09.000 You're going to cross, you see the car, you're going to freeze, and then you decide to jump back or jump forward, whatever, is the response to see...

00:31:16.000 You don't get hit by the car.

00:31:17.000 Right.

00:31:18.000 But maybe that takes like 12 milliseconds.

00:31:22.000 And if you've been training more to that kind of alarm, you're going to see the car and you want to do, before you jump in and out, you're going to look and see on the other side.

00:31:32.000 Because maybe you see the car, you jump back, you didn't see the car coming from the other part.

00:31:36.000 And you got killed from the other car.

00:31:37.000 That takes a response of 300 milliseconds.

00:31:41.000 So, the amygdala will tell you to do whatever is needed to get out of the problem faster.

00:31:48.000 But the long way of your brain response, if you've been training and you're becoming resilient to the kind of alarm and shock situation, you're gonna make the right choice.

00:31:58.000 And for an operator, for a fighter, whatever, it's logical.

00:32:01.000 Think about Jiu Jitsu, a chess game.

00:32:03.000 Chess game.

00:32:04.000 Even those guys, they play chess.

00:32:06.000 They're so under stress hours.

00:32:08.000 The brain is cooking.

00:32:09.000 And the guys make a move, and maybe me, but I'm not playing.

00:32:13.000 I see the move, I say, I gotta move this way.

00:32:16.000 The other guy is planning, taking more time to plan whatever is going on, because he starts to understand why you did that move.

00:32:22.000 So it's not logical for me, I should be going that way.

00:32:25.000 And in training, regaining access to your breathing, to your heart rate, to your brain control is fundamental.

00:32:31.000 That's why I believe we need to be careful and understand fitness is so important.

00:32:36.000 We can do a lot of things.

00:32:37.000 It's not just changing the way they look.

00:32:39.000 We can help different people in different things.

00:32:42.000 For some people, it's life-changing.

00:32:44.000 Yeah, the ability to become under pressure is something that very few people have, and it's not something that they exercise.

00:32:52.000 They don't get to do it on a regular basis, they don't get severely stressed, so that when they are in a severe stress situation, and they have to make a critical decision, or they have to use fine motor skills in a critical situation, most people are just completely incapable of handing that emotional and physiological load.

00:33:09.000 What is it about?

00:33:10.000 There's something interesting about breathing in through your mouth that creates a panic feeling, like when guys are tired.

00:33:17.000 I don't understand.

00:33:18.000 It's a shallow breathing thing that happens.

00:33:21.000 Yeah, they take too much air in, I believe.

00:33:24.000 That's what it is?

00:33:24.000 And they brace.

00:33:26.000 They brace.

00:33:27.000 So they clamp up.

00:33:28.000 Yeah.

00:33:29.000 We call it like a forced breathing.

00:33:31.000 It leads you into a fear reaction.

00:33:33.000 And so for your brain, why are you bracing?

00:33:36.000 You're bracing when you don't know something.

00:33:38.000 You're facing something you're never expecting.

00:33:40.000 So for my brain, my database says it's been there before.

00:33:44.000 In your life, you've been freezing for something.

00:33:46.000 And that will bring you back.

00:33:47.000 Okay, this is a fear situation.

00:33:49.000 So your sympathetic system is on and you start to lose control.

00:33:53.000 Hit that panic mode.

00:33:55.000 I think it's so simple.

00:33:56.000 How many times do you tie your lace shoes?

00:33:59.000 Sometimes when you're under stress, you're a little bit losing control.

00:34:04.000 Maybe we fight, we have a discussion, a very intense discussion.

00:34:08.000 You can't tie your lace.

00:34:09.000 You can't tie your shoelace because you're all out of whack.

00:34:13.000 Yeah, breathing in, one of the things that you really learn that, like during yoga class, in particularly stressful situations, it's so hard to breathe smooth.

00:34:23.000 It's one of the things that I've learned how to do is to try to concentrate only on my breath, and it actually makes the exercise easier.

00:34:30.000 Which doesn't seem to make any sense because before I'd just be concentrating on the exercise and what I realized somewhere along the line is my breath is not very smooth and I'm not doing a good job of controlling myself.

00:34:42.000 So now when I'm in a situation like a really difficult standing bow pose or something like that, What I concentrate on more than anything, more even than the posture, is just my breathing.

00:34:51.000 Concentrate on big, slow, deep breaths.

00:34:54.000 And I swear it makes it like 10% easier.

00:34:57.000 Just concentrating on the breathing makes everything easier.

00:35:00.000 And Chrome Gracie said that too when he was in here.

00:35:02.000 We were talking about jiu-jitsu.

00:35:04.000 And he's like, it's breath, man.

00:35:05.000 Breath is everything.

00:35:06.000 And once you can control your breath, once you understand how to control your breath, it makes those positions better, makes jiu-jitsu easier, makes everything better.

00:35:15.000 That's true.

00:35:16.000 Your breath control.

00:35:17.000 Your breath, Joey.

00:35:19.000 And you say the right things.

00:35:20.000 You know what?

00:35:21.000 All of us, we know how to brace, how to inhale.

00:35:25.000 We're talking for half an hour.

00:35:27.000 We never stop and do what we're talking.

00:35:29.000 But we're not under stress.

00:35:30.000 We understand.

00:35:31.000 When people are under stress, they start to do it.

00:35:32.000 The problem is when people, they don't know how to exhale.

00:35:36.000 If you're taking a man and put it under the water with the head, Right. 0.97

00:35:39.000 What is the last thing he's going to do before he die?

00:35:42.000 Right.

00:35:42.000 To catch the breathing.

00:35:43.000 So the body exactly knows when it's time to inhale.

00:35:46.000 Yes.

00:35:46.000 But it doesn't know when it's time to exhale.

00:35:49.000 That's fascinating.

00:35:50.000 And the fear that we tend to force in the breathing.

00:35:52.000 We see people hyperventilate.

00:35:54.000 Like my six-year-old gets upset about things.

00:35:55.000 Sometimes she hyperventilates.

00:35:57.000 Like she just can't get it out.

00:35:59.000 Like she's upset.

00:35:59.000 Like, someone did this to me.

00:36:01.000 I'm so upset.

00:36:02.000 You know, and you got to go, okay, you got to calm down.

00:36:05.000 I want you to take some big deep breaths.

00:36:06.000 But it's hard to teach a six-year-old that, you know? 0.99

00:36:09.000 Now what the fuck do we do on stage for breathing? 0.99

00:36:12.000 Just talk. 0.99

00:36:14.000 I've never...

00:36:15.000 Never thought about it?

00:36:17.000 Like, I started getting anxiety at the store.

00:36:20.000 So now when I walk up to the original room, like on Tuesdays, or when I did the will turn, I force myself to breathe in and out of my nose.

00:36:27.000 But for years...

00:36:28.000 You get anxiety at the store?

00:36:30.000 Yeah, in the original room.

00:36:31.000 Why?

00:36:31.000 Since I've been back.

00:36:32.000 I don't know.

00:36:33.000 It all started to know how to follow Morgan Murphy.

00:36:37.000 What?

00:36:37.000 I don't know.

00:36:38.000 I went up there, she was on stage, and I don't know what it is.

00:36:41.000 I just get anxiety in the original room.

00:36:43.000 Just a little bit.

00:36:45.000 Just a little bit.

00:36:46.000 And at the Wulchan Theater, I walked out and I looked that way.

00:36:50.000 And then I looked at the audience and it was like, woo!

00:36:53.000 And I had to breathe a little through my nose.

00:36:54.000 But what do we do on stage?

00:36:56.000 Are we breathing through our nose or are we breathing through our mouths? 1.00

00:37:02.000 We fucking talk shit for 45 to an hour. 1.00

00:37:05.000 I looked at the special that I shot and I'm like, where am I breathing? 1.00

00:37:11.000 Yeah.

00:37:12.000 How interesting.

00:37:13.000 We gotta watch that next time. 0.99

00:37:14.000 What the fuck are we doing up there? 0.99

00:37:17.000 Yeah, you're not thinking. 1.00

00:37:18.000 You're just breathing.

00:37:20.000 Yeah, well, you just concentrated so much on what you're trying to say that it all just comes natural.

00:37:24.000 Just like right now.

00:37:25.000 While I'm talking to you right now, I took a little breath right there, but I wasn't thinking about it.

00:37:29.000 I only need a little bit of air.

00:37:31.000 Right, right, right.

00:37:32.000 Because it's so natural for you.

00:37:34.000 Maybe take me in a conference the first time and I'm gonna be shaking and go, run into my world and then...

00:37:41.000 You see that from people that are giving speeches.

00:37:44.000 You do see that when they've not become comfortable with public speaking.

00:37:48.000 Public speaking is one of the most stressful things for people, for some people.

00:37:52.000 Like number two or number one in some people's world.

00:37:55.000 Like it's really bad.

00:37:56.000 I had one time a judge asked me.

00:37:59.000 He was about to sentence me.

00:38:00.000 And he goes, do you have anything to say to yourself?

00:38:03.000 And I had it written down.

00:38:05.000 I had everything, Joe Rogan.

00:38:07.000 I started squeaking.

00:38:10.000 He's like, don't worry about it.

00:38:13.000 Guilty.

00:38:16.000 I couldn't talk.

00:38:17.000 I couldn't talk.

00:38:18.000 I went right into a panic when this little man looked at me.

00:38:20.000 Boy, people get nervous.

00:38:21.000 You know, and when you get nervous, your adrenaline kicks in, and when your adrenaline kicks in, everything tightens up.

00:38:29.000 Physiological stress, like yoga positions, can kind of mimic that.

00:38:33.000 When you're in a position like when you've got your hands over your head and you're leaning your whole body to the side, it's very hard to stay smooth with your breathing when you're in those spots.

00:38:42.000 That's the number one thing that I concentrate on.

00:38:44.000 Holding my body in that position is not nearly as hard as holding my body and breathing smoothly.

00:38:49.000 Breathing smoothly is the most difficult part of that posture, like a lot of postures.

00:38:55.000 And as soon as you change your breathing, you start to change inside and you change outside.

00:39:00.000 I see this happening a lot.

00:39:02.000 What is the first reaction when you're under stress?

00:39:06.000 Tension.

00:39:07.000 Tension.

00:39:07.000 But if you look back at what happened when you were in the prehistory, think about it.

00:39:16.000 You were a prey.

00:39:18.000 What you're doing, like any animal, like a cat in the road, they start to pump his hair up to become bigger, right?

00:39:25.000 So that's what we're doing.

00:39:27.000 Growing our shape, so the predator might look at us like, oh, we're too big?

00:39:31.000 I'm gonna attack a simple, a simple predator.

00:39:34.000 We try to, you know, our skin start to twigling, something like...

00:39:39.000 Goosebumps?

00:39:40.000 Yeah, we don't have hair, but we try to do the same things.

00:39:43.000 Is that what goosebumps are?

00:39:44.000 It's like your hair is puffing up to make you look bigger?

00:39:47.000 Underfear, underfear.

00:39:47.000 Wow!

00:39:48.000 Underfear?

00:39:49.000 That's interesting.

00:39:50.000 And if I look in, you know...

00:39:51.000 How come it's like that when you hear a good song?

00:39:54.000 That's a different feeling.

00:39:55.000 You got a goose bump.

00:39:57.000 It's like a lot of people, they misinterpret it, or they all think, okay, we go tactical training, we do this, and we can control fear, reaction.

00:40:05.000 No, that's two different things.

00:40:07.000 You can control when you are really under stress for that kind of situation, so our rate.

00:40:14.000 And fears and other things.

00:40:15.000 Matter of fact, under high intensity workout, you become red.

00:40:19.000 Under fear, you become poor.

00:40:20.000 So it's different physiological things going into your body.

00:40:24.000 So the only thing that people do is misunderstanding that doing some kind of high intensity workout, we can control also the fear, real fear, because real fear is another thing.

00:40:36.000 Well, one of the things you see with fighters is they perform better when they're more active, when they fight more often.

00:40:41.000 So if a fighter fights like three times a year, they're used to fighting every few months and they get that feeling of competition becomes a normal, natural thing for them.

00:40:49.000 And it's also something that happens when you see a fighter lose.

00:40:52.000 When you see a fighter lose and they come back, they're very tense and they fight, a lot of times, they fight different.

00:40:58.000 Right.

00:40:58.000 Because they're now worried and concerned about the consequences of failure.

00:41:03.000 And you see that fear, that tension, it's in their system, and then their whole mode of operating as an athlete changes.

00:41:14.000 Right.

00:41:14.000 Because of that tension.

00:41:15.000 Because they didn't recover for the shock, for the situation they've been through.

00:41:18.000 Sure, and that's also one of the biggest factors when you talk about the difference between the way someone performs in the gym versus the way someone performs in competition.

00:41:28.000 We've all known these guys that were phenomenal in the gym, but for whatever reason, they weren't able to win in competition.

00:41:35.000 It's so common.

00:41:36.000 With some guys, it's almost like...

00:41:38.000 It's crazy.

00:41:39.000 It's almost like there's a spell on them or something.

00:41:42.000 You'll see them in the gym and you're like, this guy's a world beater.

00:41:44.000 But they can't beat anybody in a competition.

00:41:47.000 Why is that?

00:41:48.000 Psychological.

00:41:49.000 It's all psychological.

00:41:50.000 They are imprisoned by their own fears and doubts.

00:41:54.000 They don't have the confidence to rise to the occasion.

00:41:57.000 They don't have the confidence to perform under pressure.

00:42:00.000 They can't just accept the potential failure.

00:42:05.000 They're so overwhelmed and imprisoned by their fear of failure that when they get out there, they can't perform at their best.

00:42:12.000 It's crazy because it forces failure.

00:42:14.000 It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy because they can't perform like they do in the gym.

00:42:19.000 They can't just react.

00:42:19.000 They can't flow.

00:42:21.000 When you are fighting, when you're at your best, you're sort of just in this empty space.

00:42:27.000 You're not thinking about the moves as much as they're just happening, and you're just relying on your training, and the best thing you do is stay calm, because as soon as you get emotional, as soon as you get aggressive, you might win being emotional and aggressive.

00:42:40.000 You could catch someone and knock them out, but you also might get knocked out yourself.

00:42:44.000 You might do something that's not smart, like when you were talking earlier about playing chess.

00:42:49.000 Martial arts is a lot of ways like very much like chess, but way more complicated because your physical consequences are so severe.

00:42:57.000 So there's all this fear.

00:42:58.000 It's not just about losing.

00:42:59.000 It's about getting hit and that punishment of physical consequences is just so significant.

00:43:05.000 It's so much different even than in jujitsu.

00:43:07.000 Like jujitsu, the physical consequences are tapping and losing and those are terrible.

00:43:11.000 But it's nothing like getting kicked in the face or getting one of those Yoel Romero flying knees to your head.

00:43:16.000 You know, that kind of fear, that's an overwhelming fear.

00:43:21.000 And for some people, they throw up when they're in the locker room and they panic.

00:43:26.000 They get so scared.

00:43:27.000 They just can't perform under pressure.

00:43:30.000 You know, if you transfer this also to some of the operators, you know, some of the operators, they literally dump.

00:43:39.000 When you say an operator, you're talking about soldiers, special ops guys?

00:43:44.000 They're tough, you know?

00:43:45.000 They are super guys, you know?

00:43:48.000 I'm amazed by those guys, you know, and they're just chapeau, you know? 0.99

00:43:51.000 But it's natural, you know, they say, you know, enduring the task, I might be shit in my pants, you know? 0.99

00:43:57.000 Wow. 0.99

00:43:57.000 But it's physiological. 0.99

00:43:58.000 It's physiological.

00:43:59.000 And then you keep going.

00:44:00.000 Then you keep going. 1.00

00:44:01.000 They just keep going with shit in their pants. 1.00

00:44:02.000 Because that's a physiological reaction to the kind of stress factor. 1.00

00:44:05.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:06.000 Your body wants to get lighter to fight back faster or run away or whatever.

00:44:09.000 Yeah.

00:44:09.000 So you can't control it.

00:44:10.000 You know, there's nothing to be a shame about it.

00:44:11.000 You see it with animals as well.

00:44:13.000 I mean, there's a famous video of these two bears fighting.

00:44:15.000 And as the bears are fighting, they're... 0.62

00:44:17.000 They're shitting all over the place. 0.98

00:44:19.000 As they're fighting, they're shitting. 0.99

00:44:21.000 I love watching movies like Collateral or something when... 0.83

00:44:26.000 People go into some place and they shoot a place up and people's reaction, how they run.

00:44:32.000 That's not usually the case, bro.

00:44:33.000 I've seen it. 1.00

00:44:34.000 People drop to the fucking floor. 1.00

00:44:37.000 People drop without even getting shot. 1.00

00:44:39.000 They don't know what.

00:44:39.000 You just freeze.

00:44:41.000 The sound of you being somewhere and being transferred to the sound of gunfire is fucking overwhelming. 0.96

00:44:49.000 And some people get it and react to it. 0.97

00:44:51.000 And some people just think it's the 4th of July. 0.98

00:44:54.000 You know, it's really weird, but I've seen people fucking drop from fear. 0.98

00:44:59.000 Drop from fear. 0.96

00:45:00.000 Something that I was, as a child, when I was two blocks away from, just people dropping from fear.

00:45:05.000 You know, it's so...

00:45:06.000 Like, I remember when I lived in Aspen, they have the ESI Bodyguard Academy in Aspen.

00:45:15.000 I don't know, but the guy supposedly was in a room, 6x12 room, and he killed 12 Mexicans at night point with his bare hands, so he opens up this ESI thing, and it's, you know, it's 20 G's, you know?

00:45:29.000 It's a summer long program, and you learn how to adjust up at the high altitude, and drive, and evasive driving, and shooting.

00:45:38.000 Then they have a course on maritime, how to defend people out on the ocean.

00:45:42.000 And all that stuff.

00:45:43.000 But see, Aspen and all those places, like Woody Creek, where you went, is home to the baddest retired soldiers in the world. 0.99

00:45:54.000 And you don't know who they are.

00:45:55.000 You just think that dude over there with the American flag is mowing the lawn? 0.92

00:45:59.000 That guy killed 80 people with one hand in Vietnam.

00:46:02.000 There's a guy in Denver that I know is amazing.

00:46:04.000 I'm telling you, Colorado is where they put them.

00:46:06.000 Why?

00:46:07.000 Why do they put them in Colorado?

00:46:08.000 Because the mountains to keep them away from civilization for these people.

00:46:11.000 Just in case they hear Chinese music somewhere on the street.

00:46:14.000 They don't ever want that to happen.

00:46:16.000 Break glass in case of war.

00:46:17.000 And there was a guy that came in that was a Marine that, bro, Joe, you know, anybody comes in with stories, I know one thing.

00:46:24.000 When I see it, I believe it. 0.99

00:46:25.000 The motherfucker used to get picked up at Aspen Airport in a helicopter. 1.00

00:46:29.000 Duh. 1.00

00:46:29.000 Like they sent like a helicopter with two guys jumping out. 1.00

00:46:33.000 Four guys around them.

00:46:34.000 And he would just wave at Uncle Joey.

00:46:36.000 I was 19. Wow.

00:46:38.000 And he would tell me stories about, you know, the Green Berets and all these guys were sitting around a thing cooking chili.

00:46:46.000 And they were all telling how many people they killed.

00:46:48.000 I killed 18. I killed 22. Meanwhile, he was stirring the soup with his dick. 0.97

00:46:54.000 Wow. 1.00

00:46:55.000 Over the fire, you know what I'm saying?

00:46:57.000 That's the type of stories this guy would tell me. 0.99

00:47:00.000 He had me all fucked up in the head. 0.98

00:47:02.000 And I asked him once, I go, should I go to that ESI? And he goes, listen, I'll go in there and smack them all with my left hand. 1.00

00:47:09.000 He goes, first of all, you can't teach.

00:47:12.000 What you need to learn over there.

00:47:14.000 Because four years of Charlie in the bush is a lot better than 12 weeks of you hanging out with some white dude with suits shooting people, targets in the mountains. 0.70

00:47:24.000 Yeah, it's not real.

00:47:25.000 It's not.

00:47:25.000 Until there's real consequences.

00:47:27.000 That's why he said it just wasn't.

00:47:29.000 Don't you think though it's better than nothing?

00:47:31.000 I would think that it's better than nothing.

00:47:32.000 I would think that the best thing would be actually being in boot camp, actually going to Bud's, actually being in some sort of a situation where you realize this is life.

00:47:41.000 This is real.

00:47:43.000 Whereas if you're preparing up in Colorado and you're just going through that course, you might have some things in your mind.

00:47:50.000 But that's one of the things people say to me like, Like, should I take a self-defense class?

00:47:55.000 Like, will they show you how to kick somebody in the knee?

00:47:57.000 I go, listen to me. 1.00

00:47:59.000 That shit is not gonna... 1.00

00:48:01.000 Like, there was just a guy on the fucking radio that was... 1.00

00:48:04.000 He was always talking about... 0.98

00:48:07.000 It was on an Opie and Anthony show back in the day, and he was always talking about this difference between the street and martial arts.

00:48:12.000 There's martial arts and tournaments, there's rules.

00:48:16.000 In the street, there's no rules. 1.00

00:48:17.000 And I'm like, I fucking hate when people say that kind of shit. 1.00

00:48:20.000 Because listen to me, the stuff that works on trained killers is the real shit. 1.00

00:48:25.000 And if you think that you're gonna come in and you're gonna throw some fucking karate chop at someone's balls, and you're gonna somehow or another be able to stop Anderson Silva from kicking you across the room, you're out of your fucking mind. 1.00

00:48:34.000 You're out of your mind. 1.00

00:48:36.000 First of all, you're not gonna karate chop his balls. 1.00

00:48:38.000 He's not gonna let you get close enough to him. 0.99

00:48:39.000 And if he does let you get close enough to him, he's gonna strangle you. 0.98

00:48:42.000 And you're not gonna be able to do a goddamn thing about it. 0.98

00:48:44.000 You're gonna be 100% helpless. 0.96

00:48:46.000 So these ideas, there's this shortcut, and the shortcut is like street defense.

00:48:51.000 There's certain pressure points around your neck.

00:48:53.000 I could attack that, and you will be helpless. 1.00

00:48:56.000 No, no, no, you're not going to get in my neck, you fuck. 1.00

00:48:58.000 Let me grab your finger. 1.00

00:49:00.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:49:00.000 Oh, that guy from the fucking store! 1.00

00:49:02.000 There was a guy at the store who used to pinch down on, literally, this is the biggest phony I've ever met in all my years of meeting phony martial arts guys. 1.00

00:49:11.000 He used to pinch down on your thumbnail.

00:49:14.000 He was like, there's a pressure point on your thumb.

00:49:16.000 Oh, yeah, right. 1.00

00:49:16.000 Like, motherfucker, dudes lie on me with their knee on my neck. 1.00

00:49:20.000 Like, they'll put all their weight on your neck to try to get you to give up the armbar. 1.00

00:49:24.000 Like, if you're in a situation where you're defending against an armbar and the guy's on top of you, guys will put their fucking knee. 0.97

00:49:29.000 A 230-pound man will put his knee on your neck while he's trying to... 0.99

00:49:33.000 And he'll put all his weight on it.

00:49:34.000 And you're not tapping from that?

00:49:36.000 You think I'm going to tap from a thumbnail?

00:49:39.000 It's funny.

00:49:40.000 I saw people try to get into the Special Forces community.

00:49:44.000 I tried to teach them... 1.00

00:49:45.000 Pressure point shit? 1.00

00:49:46.000 Pressure point. 1.00

00:49:47.000 Do you realize this guy's wearing a bulletproof jacket and vest and plaid and all the material?

00:49:52.000 You're not even going to have access to the body.

00:49:55.000 It's so crazy. 1.00

00:49:57.000 There's so many stupid martial arts courses. 1.00

00:50:00.000 It's so fucking dumb. 1.00

00:50:02.000 It's so dumb. 1.00

00:50:03.000 There's so many of these ridiculous ideas that you're going to be able to defend yourself with some tricks. 1.00

00:50:09.000 You were saying on the card, people love these things. 1.00

00:50:13.000 They like bullshit. 0.99

00:50:13.000 You're gonna have six packs, ten minutes training a day in six weeks or whatever. 0.99

00:50:18.000 Late night infomercials.

00:50:20.000 People love that.

00:50:21.000 You only have 15 minutes, but 15 minutes is two minutes too much.

00:50:25.000 13 minutes is all you need.

00:50:26.000 13 minutes.

00:50:27.000 All you need is 13 minutes.

00:50:29.000 You're like, wow, that's what I've been waiting for.

00:50:31.000 I'm gonna be shredded.

00:50:33.000 I'm gonna go great in the beach.

00:50:34.000 13 minutes. 1.00

00:50:35.000 Fuck the fuck out of here. 1.00

00:50:36.000 We've had a civilization of just these big dick pills. 1.00

00:50:41.000 Just things that... 0.98

00:50:43.000 Quick fixes.

00:50:44.000 If you stay up past one...

00:50:46.000 It's all attacking men's testosterone level.

00:50:50.000 I don't know what it is about people after one. 0.97

00:50:52.000 I'm fucking tired all the time. 0.94

00:50:53.000 So we're all tired. 0.98

00:50:54.000 Yeah, so we're sleeping.

00:50:55.000 Yeah, but those guys that are up late at night, they're just like, like, half out of it.

00:50:59.000 That's all they're having.

00:51:01.000 Resistance is down. 0.99

00:51:01.000 Do you have more sex drive? 0.99

00:51:03.000 I mean, they just sell you some fucking bililating. 1.00

00:51:06.000 Whether it's the big dick pills or the six-minute workout. 1.00

00:51:10.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:51:10.000 And then they keep beating each other. 0.99

00:51:11.000 Like, by one minute, we have the six.

00:51:13.000 But we have the five-minute workout.

00:51:15.000 And you know what, man?

00:51:16.000 Half of America buys into that.

00:51:18.000 A lot of America buys into those fat pills.

00:51:21.000 That's the sad thing.

00:51:22.000 And once again, if we want to go back to what we discussed before, it's all about also, you know, your breathing.

00:51:27.000 I mean, how comfortable you are in the situation.

00:51:29.000 And I always give this example.

00:51:31.000 I believe, I've been there.

00:51:32.000 I don't know all you guys, but sometimes you want, you desire to date someone so badly and you get so excited when you get it.

00:51:39.000 And the first day that you go, you feel like you cannot even move, you know?

00:51:42.000 Panic.

00:51:43.000 And if you...

00:51:44.000 I remember those days. 0.99

00:51:44.000 Get to have sex that day. 0.99

00:51:46.000 It doesn't work the way that you want.

00:51:48.000 You pray that it's going to work.

00:51:50.000 But after you pass the first shot, the second, the third, it's become better.

00:51:54.000 It's exercising and breathing control.

00:51:56.000 It's all the same.

00:51:56.000 Once you get used to it, everything comes.

00:51:58.000 It's so comfortable.

00:51:59.000 That's a big thing with, again, what we were talking about with fighting.

00:52:03.000 I had one time where I tore a muscle and I didn't compete for like six months.

00:52:07.000 It was like the longest time I'd ever gone without competing because I tore the muscle that connects the groin to like, I think it's called the sartorius muscle.

00:52:16.000 It's like at the top of the leg.

00:52:17.000 It was real bad.

00:52:18.000 I couldn't throw any kicks at all.

00:52:19.000 I could only do my workouts in the pool.

00:52:21.000 It was pretty bad.

00:52:22.000 And so when I was recovering from that, When I got back in, my first fight back, I was like, wow, I just feel so off.

00:52:31.000 My timing feels off.

00:52:32.000 Everything feels weird.

00:52:33.000 But then I fought again less than a month later, and I felt great.

00:52:37.000 Like, less than a month later, everything was like, all right, I know this again.

00:52:40.000 This is my thing.

00:52:41.000 I've been here before.

00:52:42.000 And then I felt normal again.

00:52:44.000 It's like when you have a girlfriend.

00:52:47.000 If you have a girlfriend for a long time, you don't get nervous about whether or not you're going to get it up.

00:52:51.000 You don't panic like, I hope she likes me. 1.00

00:52:53.000 She fucking likes you. 1.00

00:52:54.000 She's naked. 1.00

00:52:54.000 She's right there. 1.00

00:52:55.000 She's been with you forever.

00:52:56.000 You know she likes you, so it's not an issue.

00:52:59.000 But if, you know, if it is, like you said, a girl that you've been thinking about for the longest time, and you're, I'm gonna ask her out, I hope this goes well.

00:53:06.000 And then you finally get where they're like, yikes! 0.99

00:53:12.000 The human penis is such a fucking odd thing in that regard. 1.00

00:53:16.000 What a bizarre thing. 1.00

00:53:18.000 It's designed to make sure, like, look, dude, if you ain't calm, you're not gonna fuck, okay? 1.00

00:53:23.000 Because we don't want any weak-ass, nervous bitches out there making babies. 1.00

00:53:28.000 So the system is built. 1.00

00:53:29.000 To make sure that your dick does not get hard if you're fucking panicking. 0.99

00:53:33.000 It's not like a rhino horn where it's armed and ready at all times. 1.00

00:53:38.000 No, it's like a very specific physiological process has to be in place where the softest part of your body becomes hard like a fucking rock. 0.98

00:53:46.000 The process itself is crazy. 0.99

00:53:49.000 When you look at your dick when you're going to pee and it's this soft little spongy thing and then you grab your dick when it's that full mast And it's like, how is that the same thing? 1.00

00:54:00.000 Because it's this crazy physiological process that only works if you're ready to rock. 1.00

00:54:06.000 Right.

00:54:06.000 You can't be faking it.

00:54:08.000 Like, your body knows if you're panicking.

00:54:11.000 Right.

00:54:12.000 There is a book.

00:54:13.000 There is a book.

00:54:13.000 I don't know how you translate it in English, but there is a book that explains it so well, so simple about those reactions of the body and the stress.

00:54:20.000 And you say, think about the zebra and the savanna.

00:54:24.000 You know, that's exactly, you know, when someone is chasing you to hit you, and when you are under stress, high stress, your body starts producing hormones, like testosterone.

00:54:34.000 Why?

00:54:34.000 You know, the last thing you want to have is sex when some lion is behind you.

00:54:39.000 So that's exactly what he's doing, shutting down whatever is needed. 0.97

00:54:43.000 Shutting down everything.

00:54:44.000 Yeah.

00:54:45.000 So it's under stress, you know, when you are freaking out, you can't perform.

00:54:48.000 You can't perform.

00:54:48.000 You are not relaxed.

00:54:49.000 You are confident.

00:54:50.000 You know, it's...

00:54:50.000 Zebras are so bizarre because you see the way their body looks.

00:54:55.000 They're not camouflaged at all.

00:54:58.000 They have white with black stripes on.

00:55:01.000 And for the longest time, they thought that the white with black stripes on would confuse an animal's mind.

00:55:08.000 There's a type of camo.

00:55:09.000 Have you ever heard of ASAT camo as a type of camouflage?

00:55:12.000 It doesn't look like trees or anything.

00:55:13.000 It's just a bunch of black and white.

00:55:15.000 Brown lines.

00:55:16.000 And those lines for animals, because animals, their eyes operate on edge detection.

00:55:22.000 They operate on a lot of them, especially prey animals, like deer and things along those lines.

00:55:27.000 They see movement.

00:55:29.000 They don't necessarily see things the way you see things.

00:55:32.000 They mostly just see movement.

00:55:34.000 And so for the longest time, they thought, well, maybe when you're looking like a lion is looking at a zebra, The lion is seeing this zebra's body, and there's all the lines, confuses it so he can't see it.

00:55:46.000 Then they realized, no, no, no, what it actually is, is you can't pick out individual zebras.

00:55:53.000 So, like, if an individual zebra, like, looks different from the other zebras, that's the one they get after.

00:56:01.000 Like, if one zebra's bleeding and has blood on its body, and it looks different from all those other white and black lines, that's the one they target. 0.99

00:56:08.000 Which is kind of fucked. 0.98

00:56:09.000 And one of the ways they found out this, they tagged a zebra. 0.99

00:56:12.000 They put like an ear tag on a zebra, and they sent...

00:56:15.000 Jordan Peterson was talking about this recently in this video.

00:56:18.000 And they put it back into the herd, and the lions immediately killed that zebra.

00:56:22.000 That's the one they went right to, because it had something different. 0.99

00:56:25.000 Like, you see all these white and black lines, and then, oh, this motherfucker's got an ear tag. 1.00

00:56:30.000 Get him! 1.00

00:56:30.000 And they just went right after that. 1.00

00:56:32.000 So it's really designed like, look, we know we're fucked. 1.00

00:56:35.000 We're born fucked. 0.99

00:56:37.000 But if we stay together, you know, maybe, like, look, when you see that. 1.00

00:56:41.000 So when you see all those zebras together, it's super confusing. 0.99

00:56:45.000 Well, we will have this fucking TV fix soon, I swear. 0.98

00:56:49.000 This TV cuts in and out. 0.99

00:56:52.000 That one, you can see it back.

00:56:54.000 So when you see these zebras and we see these lions, what it's designed to do is confuse the lions so that they don't know which one to target, which is crazy. 1.00

00:57:04.000 But if one of those motherfuckers had an ear tag, a big old yellow tag hanging off their ear, the lions would be like, there you are, bitch. 1.00

00:57:10.000 I see ya. 1.00

00:57:12.000 That's kind of cool. 0.99

00:57:13.000 It's fucked, though. 0.99

00:57:14.000 I mean, what a terrible situation nature has given these poor things. 1.00

00:57:19.000 The lions are camouflaged.

00:57:21.000 The lions look like the brown grasses, you know?

00:57:25.000 And leopard, or excuse me, tigers, apparently, that whole stripe thing with them is also to make them blend in with all their surroundings.

00:57:35.000 All the trees and the sticks, you know, they live mostly in the jungle.

00:57:40.000 So you were asking me before this about the fights.

00:57:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:57:43.000 What do you think?

00:57:45.000 Because when they wear Counter-Starker, that's why they keep the distance?

00:57:49.000 And they know exactly that's...

00:57:51.000 This is what I think. 0.57

00:57:52.000 A lot of people were like pissed off, it was boring, but I think that's because they just want to see people beat the fuck out of each other, which I understand.

00:57:59.000 That's why you tune into cage fighting.

00:58:01.000 But to me, the way I always describe martial arts is it's high-level problem solving with dire physical consequences.

00:58:09.000 And if you run in on Tyron Woodley, you got some dire physical consequences. 0.99

00:58:14.000 He's a fucking powerhouse. 0.96

00:58:15.000 And if Woodley charges at Thompson, There's dire physical consequences because he was getting tagged when he would he said it to me after the fight He's like he caught me a few times as I was charging towards him so Woodley has a different style than Thompson Thompson has that wide stance that karate style and he's excellent at moving in and moving out and almost like point fighting you He's just jabbing you hitting you with these Clean left hands, 0.97

00:58:41.000 sliding out of the way, occasionally throwing kicks, but mostly what he's doing is making you wonder what he's going to do and when he's coming at you.

00:58:50.000 And Woodley had to pick his battles and figure out when he could launch himself at him.

00:58:53.000 So, at any moment, something could have happened. 0.99

00:58:57.000 But a lot of shit didn't happen. 0.99

00:58:59.000 So the people watching at home are like, that was the most boring fight ever. 0.99

00:59:02.000 It's because those moments are so critical.

00:59:05.000 Those moments are so dangerous. 0.99

00:59:08.000 They would like it to be like Frankie Edgar Grey Maynard, just fucking chaos. 0.99

00:59:12.000 Punches, throwing, wild. 0.98

00:59:14.000 It's not going to happen like that.

00:59:16.000 You can't do that with Wonderboy.

00:59:17.000 You can't charge at him like that. 0.99

00:59:19.000 He will fucking counter you, and you will be one of those people on his highlight reel. 0.98

00:59:23.000 So Tyron Woodley was very smart, and that he knew that he couldn't charge at him. 0.99

00:59:27.000 And Wonderboy, he's not gonna charge at Woodley either. 0.76

00:59:31.000 I mean, he got almost knocked the fuck out in the first fight. 0.96

00:59:33.000 He almost got knocked the fuck out in the fifth round of the second fight, too. 0.96

00:59:38.000 Woodley's a powerhouse, man. 0.99

00:59:39.000 He hits so goddamn hard. 0.97

00:59:41.000 So everybody had to be on their toes. 0.98

00:59:43.000 They both had to be minding their P's and Q's.

00:59:45.000 And that translated for a boring fight to a lot of people, but not to me.

00:59:49.000 To me, I was like, anything can happen at any moment.

00:59:52.000 In the fifth round, it almost did.

00:59:54.000 When Woodley connected and Thompson's knees went out, I mean, he slumped.

00:59:58.000 He was out, man.

00:59:59.000 He was out for at least a half a second or a moment, you know?

01:00:02.000 There was a moment where his legs gave out, his body went limp, and they could have stopped the fight right there.

01:00:08.000 I'm glad they didn't.

01:00:09.000 I'm glad they kept it going.

01:00:11.000 I talked to Big John McCarthy in the cage after the fight.

01:00:14.000 I go, how close were you to stopping that fight?

01:00:16.000 He goes...

01:00:17.000 He goes, I wasn't close to stopping that fight.

01:00:18.000 I go, but you were looking, right?

01:00:19.000 He goes, I was looking.

01:00:21.000 I go, you were looking close.

01:00:22.000 He goes, I'll never admit it.

01:00:24.000 I go, but it was, I mean, he was almost out, right?

01:00:26.000 He goes, he was almost out.

01:00:27.000 He might have been out for a half a second, but I gave him a chance.

01:00:30.000 I go, he did a great job.

01:00:31.000 He did an amazing job.

01:00:32.000 I mean, that's why Big John McCarthy is so important.

01:00:35.000 A guy with that kind of experience. 0.90

01:00:36.000 And if he fucked that up, everybody would be so mad at him. 0.72

01:00:39.000 But he did it perfect. 0.54

01:00:40.000 It was perfect.

01:00:42.000 He has the most difficult job in the sport other than the fighters.

01:00:45.000 Fighters have the most difficult job.

01:00:47.000 Second most difficult job is the referee.

01:00:50.000 Third most difficult job is the judges.

01:00:52.000 Yeah, I believe so.

01:00:53.000 I think so.

01:00:53.000 Yeah, I believe he's going to interpret it as trauma.

01:00:57.000 Yes.

01:00:57.000 Before the other people.

01:00:58.000 He has to be at the right angle.

01:01:01.000 They're moving around, and they're fast, and they could go to his left, and he could be over here, but something could be happening on their right, and he doesn't even see it.

01:01:09.000 You don't know.

01:01:10.000 Sometimes guys don't see taps.

01:01:13.000 Sometimes guys don't see certain eye pokes or groin shots.

01:01:16.000 There's a lot of things that can happen. 0.99

01:01:18.000 A referee's job is insanely difficult, and they only get praise when they fuck up. 1.00

01:01:23.000 They only rather get attention when they fuck up. 0.99

01:01:26.000 They don't get any praise when they do a great job. 1.00

01:01:28.000 They need more.

01:01:32.000 More people need to understand how difficult that is.

01:01:35.000 So that moment where Tyron finally did connect on Wonderboy, and everybody's like, why didn't you do that earlier? 0.99

01:01:42.000 Because he could have got knocked the fuck out. 0.86

01:01:44.000 Like, that was where the opening was. 0.98

01:01:46.000 Woodley was so aggressive because he was down on the scorecards, at least in his corner's eyes, and in my eyes he was as well, and he had to charge forward, and he had to connect, and he did.

01:01:56.000 But to make that happen, a lot of things have Right.

01:02:15.000 He was standing in the southpaw position with his right leg forward.

01:02:18.000 He throws that front leg side kick to the body. 0.89

01:02:20.000 He throws it really well because he picks it up from the ground like low and it sort of scoops up.

01:02:27.000 So you don't see it coming until it's too late.

01:02:29.000 It might not be the most powerful application of the front leg side kick, but it's very sneaky because he slides in with that foot low and then it comes up and stabs you.

01:02:39.000 And you don't know if it's going to come up as a sidekick or if it's going to go up and over your shoulder as a round kick.

01:02:44.000 You don't know what he's doing.

01:02:45.000 He's so sneaky.

01:02:47.000 So Tyron had to be very cautious.

01:02:49.000 And for a lot of people, it was very boring because of that.

01:02:52.000 But I didn't think it was boring while it was happening.

01:02:54.000 I was on the edge of my seat. 0.99

01:02:55.000 I was like, there are moments, there's going to be moments when the shit starts flying. 0.99

01:03:00.000 And in those moments, that's where the fight becomes amazing. 0.99

01:03:02.000 But those guys are smart.

01:03:04.000 They're not dumb. 0.98

01:03:05.000 And the belt is so goddamn important. 0.99

01:03:07.000 When you have the belt, you get to decide. 0.93

01:03:10.000 You fight all the best fighters.

01:03:11.000 You make the money.

01:03:13.000 You get the opportunities for the big money fights, like the Conor McGregor type fights.

01:03:17.000 Those only happen if you have the belt. 0.95

01:03:19.000 If you don't have the belt, nobody gives a fuck about you. 0.93

01:03:21.000 So for a guy like Tyron, man, that belt is everything. 0.96

01:03:25.000 For a guy like Woodley, or a guy like Wonderboy, rather, that belt is everything.

01:03:29.000 If you don't have that belt, you make a fraction of what you make.

01:03:32.000 Like, think about that fight.

01:03:33.000 That fight's insanely close.

01:03:35.000 It was so close, Dominic Cruz afterwards said, that's basically the same fight as the first fight.

01:03:40.000 It's like, if you've called the first fight a draw, you could easily call this fight a draw.

01:03:44.000 And I agree with him.

01:03:45.000 So that means that Wonderboy and Woodley are essentially like so closely matched stylistically that it's a wash, right?

01:03:53.000 But meanwhile Woodley's the one who's the champion.

01:03:56.000 Woodley's the one who has the potential to fight Conor McGregor.

01:03:58.000 Woodley is the one who has the potential to fight Michael Bisping or who else he fights at whatever weight he fights at.

01:04:03.000 And that is where the money is.

01:04:05.000 So he's the guy who's gonna get the money.

01:04:07.000 Whereas Wonderboy, who essentially had a draw with him, proved that he was At least close enough on one fight and just a hair under on the second fight, he's gonna make a fraction of what Woodley makes, likely.

01:04:22.000 So, those consequences have to be taken into consideration when you're watching these guys fight, is that they know there's a win bonus and there's a loss.

01:04:31.000 If you lose, you get your show money.

01:04:33.000 You don't get a bonus.

01:04:35.000 But if you win, you get twice the money.

01:04:37.000 A lot of guys, the way their contract is structured, they'll make X if they win, and they'll make X plus X. They'll make X plus X if they win, but if they lose, they only make X. So they might be getting $200,000 for the fight, but another $200,000 if they win.

01:04:52.000 That's a giant swing.

01:04:54.000 That's a big deal. 0.98

01:04:55.000 So they have to be really fucking careful they don't make mistakes. 0.97

01:04:58.000 I don't like win bonuses, man. 0.97

01:05:00.000 I don't like it.

01:05:02.000 I think those guys are trying to win anyway.

01:05:04.000 They're trying to win. 0.94

01:05:04.000 I just think, like, especially in particular in situations like that, when fights are, like, that fucking close. 0.94

01:05:10.000 Like, a judge can decide whether or not you make an extra 200 grand or don't. 0.86

01:05:14.000 Like, that seems crazy to me.

01:05:16.000 Are you still training?

01:05:17.000 Yeah, I'm still training.

01:05:18.000 I saw you boxing a few weeks ago, right?

01:05:21.000 Yeah, I'm back doing jujitsu again, too.

01:05:23.000 That's cool.

01:05:26.000 I was working on a heavy bag last night at the Alberto Crane Academy.

01:05:31.000 It was night.

01:05:32.000 I came back from Aventura.

01:05:33.000 I was teaching a workshop.

01:05:34.000 And I need to let go of something.

01:05:35.000 I didn't want to lift weight.

01:05:37.000 I saw the dojo empty.

01:05:40.000 Heavy bags, gloves, etc.

01:05:41.000 Let's go.

01:05:42.000 Yeah.

01:05:42.000 That's cool, man.

01:05:43.000 Well, heavy bag, I think, is...

01:05:45.000 Everybody would do better if they had a heavy bag in their garage.

01:05:47.000 Yeah.

01:05:48.000 Just go out there and hit that thing.

01:05:49.000 It feels good.

01:05:50.000 You don't even have to have great form.

01:05:52.000 Just go out there and hit it.

01:05:53.000 It's so good for your body to just explode and just release tension and stress.

01:05:58.000 And for people who have joint issues, they have these water bags.

01:06:02.000 It's essentially like a thick layer of...

01:06:05.000 The outside is like a thick layer of padding, like a few inches of pad, of foam, and then inside of that is a water bladder.

01:06:12.000 It's filled with water.

01:06:13.000 So when you punch it, it's like, whoosh, your arm goes into it.

01:06:16.000 But you could really dig in and hit it hard, but it doesn't have the same impact on your joints.

01:06:21.000 You don't feel it so much on your elbows and your shoulders and stuff, because there's give to it.

01:06:26.000 You know, creativity.

01:06:28.000 Once in Sicily, you know...

01:06:29.000 Have you ever been in Italy?

01:06:30.000 Yeah, that was the first time last year I went to Italy.

01:06:33.000 Loved it.

01:06:34.000 You like it?

01:06:34.000 Oh man, I went to Rome, went to the Vatican, saw the Vatican.

01:06:38.000 We went to, what is the mountain area?

01:06:44.000 Dolomite? 0.99

01:06:45.000 No, god damn it. 0.99

01:06:47.000 Alpine? 0.99

01:06:47.000 It was out near where the volcano killed everybody. 0.99

01:06:52.000 Vesuvius?

01:06:52.000 Oh, okay.

01:06:53.000 Yeah, we went there and then we went to...

01:06:57.000 The Amalfi Coast.

01:06:58.000 Amalfi Coast.

01:06:59.000 Yes, that's where it was.

01:07:00.000 Oh man.

01:07:02.000 So beautiful, it didn't even seem real.

01:07:03.000 It seems like you were in front of a green screen.

01:07:05.000 Like you look out, you know, you have to go on this mountain road.

01:07:08.000 It's crazy, Joey.

01:07:09.000 It's a road that should be one lane.

01:07:11.000 Should be one lane, but it's two.

01:07:13.000 And there's buses on it. 1.00

01:07:14.000 Fucking buses. 1.00

01:07:15.000 And motorcycles. 1.00

01:07:16.000 Assholes and motorcycles. 0.99

01:07:19.000 Weaving in and out of cars. 1.00

01:07:20.000 People in Italy drive like fucking maniacs. 1.00

01:07:24.000 We all know Italians are kind of crazy. 1.00

01:07:26.000 I'm mostly Italian, and I know you're fucking crazy. 1.00

01:07:29.000 Do I have the left-hand steering wheel? 1.00

01:07:30.000 No, no.

01:07:31.000 It's regular.

01:07:32.000 It's regular.

01:07:33.000 It's only left-hand in England and in Japan, South Africa.

01:07:37.000 Have you gotten in a car with a left-hand or a right-hand?

01:07:40.000 Oh, Australia as well.

01:07:41.000 What'd you feel like? 1.00

01:07:42.000 It's fucking confusing as shit. 0.99

01:07:44.000 You're like, where are we going? 0.99

01:07:45.000 Ah, you're on the wrong side!

01:07:47.000 If you didn't have a stick driving, it's even worse.

01:07:52.000 Oh yeah, because you have the shift with your left hand.

01:07:54.000 Oh yeah, but the clutch is still on the left-hand side, right?

01:07:58.000 And the pedal's still on the right?

01:07:59.000 Yeah, I think I'd adjust...

01:08:01.000 But it would be the opposite version.

01:08:02.000 Yeah, so this is what it's like on the Amalfa Coast.

01:08:04.000 So you're driving on this road.

01:08:06.000 This is what it's like.

01:08:07.000 That's a two-lane road, Joey. 0.99

01:08:08.000 There's a fucking bus coming, and you've got to figure out how to get a car past that bus. 0.99

01:08:12.000 And we were going like, and I'm not exaggerating, a half of a mile an hour trying to get past cars and buses. 0.99

01:08:18.000 Absolutely.

01:08:19.000 It takes forever to get up there.

01:08:20.000 It should take 10 minutes.

01:08:21.000 That's the road.

01:08:22.000 It should take 10 minutes.

01:08:23.000 It takes 90. That I'm not kidding.

01:08:27.000 But once you get up to the top, like look at that picture where you're seeing the ocean, Jamie, like up in the right-hand corner, upper right hand, yeah, like there.

01:08:34.000 That's what it looks like once you finally get up there, you're like, wow, it's so pretty.

01:08:39.000 So pretty, man.

01:08:40.000 Italy's amazing.

01:08:41.000 The food's out of this world. 1.00

01:08:44.000 Fuck your gluten. 1.00

01:08:46.000 All your gluten-free bullshit, you better let that go when you're in Italy, bitch. 1.00

01:08:50.000 So is there a lot of pasta in Italy? 1.00

01:08:52.000 Oh, yeah.

01:08:52.000 People here say, nah, you go to Italy, there's nothing like that that's Americanized.

01:08:57.000 What?

01:08:57.000 It's more fish and stuff.

01:08:59.000 There's a lot of...

01:08:59.000 Well, they definitely eat a lot of fish.

01:09:01.000 Now, do they still use gravy, like red sauce?

01:09:03.000 No.

01:09:04.000 Not so much.

01:09:05.000 That's Americanized.

01:09:06.000 Right.

01:09:06.000 Not so much.

01:09:07.000 You can get it, though, and I think one of the reasons why you can get it is because probably people have come over there and wanted it, you know?

01:09:12.000 Do you remember that episode of Zopranos and the guy ordered...

01:09:14.000 He's like, I want gravy.

01:09:16.000 And the one waiter looked at the other one, he goes...

01:09:19.000 These East Coast Italians, there was classless at the Germans because he ordered spaghetti with gravy. 0.52

01:09:27.000 That's not big over there.

01:09:28.000 When you say gravy, people are like, what is he talking, gravy?

01:09:30.000 People think of like gray, like gravy with biscuits.

01:09:33.000 Yeah, spaghetti sauce.

01:09:35.000 Yeah, it's weird.

01:09:36.000 Like Bolognese.

01:09:37.000 Bolognese, yeah.

01:09:38.000 They had Bolognese last night.

01:09:39.000 Yeah, you can get Bolognese over there, but it's just the Americans that came over, they developed a different sort of style of eating. 0.89

01:09:47.000 Like a lot of meatballs.

01:09:49.000 Yeah, like Alfredo, Alfredo.

01:09:51.000 You don't like it? 1.00

01:09:52.000 That's the shit you eat when you come here as an immigrant. 1.00

01:09:55.000 When I came from Cuba, when you're a white kid, my daughter likes Alfredo. 1.00

01:10:01.000 That shit's gonna get cut off the menu in like a month. 1.00

01:10:04.000 No Alfredo in my fucking world. 1.00

01:10:06.000 Why not Alfredo? 1.00

01:10:07.000 Because that's what people eat in Iowa.

01:10:08.000 That's the first Italian. 0.91

01:10:10.000 They eat like Alfredo and they love it.

01:10:12.000 You know, no, no, no.

01:10:13.000 That's like a one-month training thing. 0.99

01:10:15.000 Like, I even had it out of a fucking jar. 0.99

01:10:18.000 Like, that's how Alfredo I was. 0.99

01:10:20.000 Yeah, when I came from Cuba and I tasted Italian food, my mind blew up.

01:10:24.000 You know, I was into all angles of it, but the red sauce was last. 0.99

01:10:29.000 I like fucking Alfredo with fucking those thick noodle sauce. 0.99

01:10:32.000 I like it. 1.00

01:10:33.000 That's what you give to a fucking horse. 1.00

01:10:34.000 I like it. 1.00

01:10:35.000 No!

01:10:35.000 I like Alfredo sauce with chicken and broccoli.

01:10:38.000 Oh, no!

01:10:39.000 Little mushrooms.

01:10:41.000 Come on, Jamie.

01:10:41.000 Is it good, right?

01:10:42.000 It's good.

01:10:43.000 You grow out of that.

01:10:44.000 I grew out of that.

01:10:45.000 I was like...

01:10:46.000 It's not my first choice, but I like it.

01:10:48.000 No, I don't.

01:10:49.000 But I never heard about that since I moved here.

01:10:51.000 When I moved here in 92, 93, everybody was asking me, do you like Fettuccino Alfredo?

01:10:56.000 I said, I don't even know who they are.

01:10:58.000 That's hilarious.

01:10:58.000 They said, yeah, you are no Italian.

01:10:59.000 I said, no, I'm from Italy, they pass for sale. 0.94

01:11:02.000 You don't know Italian.

01:11:03.000 That's hilarious.

01:11:05.000 It's like going somewhere in another country and tell you.

01:11:10.000 Cheeseburger is not American.

01:11:11.000 What are the meals?

01:11:12.000 So you have bolognese, you have arrabbiata, you have pasta fagioli, you have...

01:11:19.000 The location?

01:11:20.000 They call it the real name like Pasta Vagioli.

01:11:23.000 Pasta Vagioli.

01:11:24.000 Yeah, they don't call it Pasta Vazul.

01:11:25.000 Well, that's New Jersey, Pasta Vazul.

01:11:27.000 But then what's in the...

01:11:28.000 Like, we can't get that stuff here in Caledonia.

01:11:30.000 What's in that?

01:11:31.000 The gabaguch. 0.71

01:11:32.000 Not the gabaguch.

01:11:33.000 The other one.

01:11:35.000 The green stuff. 1.00

01:11:36.000 The stuff that gets your dick hard. 1.00

01:11:38.000 The what? 1.00

01:11:41.000 I thought it was a blue one.

01:11:43.000 What do you put in pasta?

01:11:44.000 You put beans and the green stuff.

01:11:48.000 It's not spinach.

01:11:50.000 The pesto?

01:11:51.000 Pasta pesto?

01:11:51.000 No.

01:11:52.000 It's not spinach?

01:11:56.000 It's two things.

01:11:57.000 So you're talking about a type of vegetable?

01:11:59.000 Escarole and beans.

01:12:00.000 Oh, escarole.

01:12:01.000 Oh! 1.00

01:12:02.000 That shit. 1.00

01:12:03.000 Escarole gets you a dick hard? 1.00

01:12:04.000 Huh? 1.00

01:12:04.000 I think your dick was just getting hard. 1.00

01:12:06.000 Listen to me. 1.00

01:12:07.000 You were just looking for a reason. 1.00

01:12:08.000 You make that shit in November. 1.00

01:12:11.000 Okay? 1.00

01:12:12.000 You know, I ate pasta.

01:12:13.000 When I first tasted it, I ate it every day for like 40 days.

01:12:17.000 When I first went to my friend's house, I went from 160 to 194. Just eating pasta for Azul twice a day.

01:12:24.000 That sounds like the army.

01:12:25.000 That's the only thing they were giving you.

01:12:26.000 Oh, lifting weights and pasta for Azul?

01:12:28.000 You get yoked, Jack.

01:12:29.000 It's like taking D-ball.

01:12:30.000 You get yoked!

01:12:33.000 YOKED! Just pop those beans, that escarol, and that in the winter with all that garlic and stuff, you're off and running, brother.

01:12:41.000 They did have a lot of fish.

01:12:43.000 Like, they had amazing seafood.

01:12:44.000 That's what we're talking about to drive up.

01:12:45.000 The Amalfi Coast, they had amazing seafood.

01:12:47.000 But the pasta was like a very light sauce.

01:12:50.000 Like, you know, if you went to a good place and got like linguine vangole, they'll give you a linguine with a very light olive oil and garlic sauce with the linguine and like that is the kind of pasta.

01:13:03.000 Like it's a very much more delicate pasta.

01:13:05.000 Yeah, because you want to taste the fish.

01:13:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:08.000 You don't want to cover the flavor.

01:13:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:13:10.000 That's why if you try to go to a real Italian restaurant, you ask for cheese, like grated cheese on linguine vangole, they'll look at you like you're a fucking monster. 1.00

01:13:18.000 Who are you? 0.99

01:13:19.000 You're not going to put the cheese on the top of the fish.

01:13:21.000 Yeah, they'll say it's not recommend.

01:13:23.000 Not recommend.

01:13:25.000 They'll look at you like, mmm, don't do it.

01:13:26.000 And you're like, no, no, no, no, come on.

01:13:28.000 Come on, hit me with it.

01:13:29.000 Like, Kevin James and I used to always get linguine clams, and he would get pissed if they didn't come over with the cheese.

01:13:35.000 Like, where's the guy with the cheese?

01:13:36.000 We've got to have the grated cheese.

01:13:38.000 And you would try to put it on, like, at a good restaurant.

01:13:40.000 They would get upset with you.

01:13:41.000 They don't want you putting that cheese on it.

01:13:43.000 If you have, like, spaghetti bolognese or something like that, they'll ask you, would you like some cheese?

01:13:49.000 And then that makes sense.

01:13:51.000 They don't even come near you.

01:13:52.000 They'll try to stay away from your side of the table if you've got linguine with clams.

01:13:56.000 They don't want to give it to you.

01:13:58.000 And even red wine.

01:13:59.000 Red wine with the fish.

01:14:00.000 They get mad.

01:14:00.000 Yeah, they get mad.

01:14:02.000 You're supposed to drink white wine with fish.

01:14:03.000 White wine with fish.

01:14:04.000 Really?

01:14:04.000 Yeah.

01:14:04.000 They get that upset with you?

01:14:05.000 I don't drink white wine.

01:14:07.000 I don't like white wine.

01:14:08.000 I drink barely, but red wine is better than white for me.

01:14:12.000 Yeah.

01:14:12.000 I mean, I'll drink white, but I don't order it.

01:14:15.000 Like, if somebody pours me a glass, I'm not going to be...

01:14:17.000 It's not awful, but if I have a choice, it's always red.

01:14:20.000 I like red.

01:14:20.000 Red, to me, it's like, it's got a flavor that's, like, compelling.

01:14:25.000 It's interesting.

01:14:26.000 It's, like, it's alive.

01:14:28.000 White wine is like chick drink.

01:14:30.000 Sorry, girls. 1.00

01:14:31.000 I drank a fucking... 1.00

01:14:32.000 Sexist! 1.00

01:14:33.000 My mom used to have a bar and she'd... 0.98

01:14:36.000 At night when we'd go home, when I was real young, like four or five in New York City, my mom would have a little glass of red wine. 0.97

01:14:43.000 The wine with the fucking Italian paperwork on it that... 0.97

01:14:47.000 Oh, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:14:48.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:14:51.000 Like that shit. 1.00

01:14:52.000 So I was maybe four, maybe five, and I would watch her. 1.00

01:14:56.000 One night I watched her go to bed and I said, fuck it. 1.00

01:14:59.000 And I took that bottle of wine and I fucking drank the whole thing. 1.00

01:15:04.000 She woke up like six hours later, couldn't find me. 0.99

01:15:07.000 Called the police, I was missing. 1.00

01:15:09.000 You were drunk as fuck. 1.00

01:15:10.000 In the closet, shit, puked. 1.00

01:15:12.000 I never drank wine again until about eight years ago. 1.00

01:15:17.000 I would smell it and still get sick.

01:15:19.000 You get sick, huh? 1.00

01:15:20.000 Your brain remembers. 0.96

01:15:21.000 She would tell me all the time, you'll never like wine because you got so hammered that time. 1.00

01:15:27.000 We called the cops, we did everything, they couldn't fucking find you.

01:15:30.000 Alberto, what's your martial arts background? 0.98

01:15:33.000 I started with boxing, regular boxing.

01:15:36.000 Then I found that that time was like 82. Big things in Italy was full-contact karate.

01:15:42.000 I remember all those big names, Benny the Jet.

01:15:45.000 Yeah, Benny the Jet Arquides.

01:15:47.000 He's from right out here, man.

01:15:49.000 He's from North Hollywood.

01:15:50.000 I used to train in his gym when I first came here, when I first came to California.

01:15:53.000 Jerry Blank, right?

01:15:54.000 Yeah.

01:15:55.000 Jerry Blank was down in...

01:16:00.000 Yeah.

01:16:00.000 Blinky Rodriguez, he was out here as well.

01:16:03.000 He's Benny's brother-in-law.

01:16:04.000 And then Muay Thai came.

01:16:06.000 And I fell in love with Muay Thai.

01:16:08.000 That was my big thing. 0.98

01:16:10.000 Boy, that Muay Thai fucking changed everybody's eyes. 0.99

01:16:12.000 As soon as you realize how hard it is to get kicked in the legs. 0.99

01:16:16.000 Oh, wait, what? 0.84

01:16:18.000 Yeah, and I was like everybody.

01:16:20.000 I never tried.

01:16:21.000 The first time I went, I said, okay, this is going to be nothing different.

01:16:24.000 It's like a roundhouse kick in the legs.

01:16:26.000 And they hit me.

01:16:27.000 I couldn't walk for a couple of days.

01:16:30.000 Shins, man. 0.90

01:16:31.000 And I fell in love.

01:16:34.000 Muay Thai, I started to compete in Muay Thai.

01:16:36.000 Yeah, karate style with the shin, where the instep rather, when you're kicking with the top of the foot, everybody had this idea like that was the way to do it.

01:16:44.000 And then the moment you get kicked with a shin, you go, oh, all right.

01:16:51.000 And I got a lot of injury for kicking on the instep.

01:16:53.000 Oh, yeah.

01:16:54.000 On my ankle was.

01:16:55.000 Yeah, you get acclastic devastated.

01:16:57.000 So I need to recondition it on my foot, like we discussed in the beginning, right?

01:17:01.000 So it's a shin kick, change.

01:17:04.000 Then during the past, you know, for the security, I start to investigate different styles, different styles.

01:17:11.000 The guy that changed my way to see things, transferred not to competition, but to my line of duty, was a guy in Israel.

01:17:19.000 Because he's been in two or four wars, he's a real man, he's become like a second father for me.

01:17:24.000 He always told me, he's the spirit.

01:17:27.000 I don't care the way you punch, the way you kick, until your mindset is not on point.

01:17:33.000 It's not going to be ready to do something for real.

01:17:37.000 So they can tell you, do karate, do jujitsu, do that.

01:17:41.000 But if your mindset, real things, when you go to war, you need to apply these things for real.

01:17:47.000 It's changing.

01:17:48.000 I think he's right, but he's also not right.

01:17:51.000 Because I think he's right in the sense that your mindset must be correct in order for you to apply any sort of martial arts in actual competition.

01:17:58.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:17:58.000 But it's always important to have the right technique.

01:18:02.000 Oh, yeah, no, no, no.

01:18:03.000 Maybe I miss saying.

01:18:04.000 I was working already on...

01:18:07.000 He never believed in the Krav Maga.

01:18:09.000 He's an Israeli guy.

01:18:09.000 He introduced the jiu-jitsu a lot.

01:18:12.000 Introduced the jiu-jitsu, introduced the BJJ and his system, introduced a lot of boxing and Muay Thai.

01:18:17.000 So you need to have the full aspect of that.

01:18:19.000 And then, of course, if you go into the...

01:18:22.000 If you were training all the special forces there, the secret service, you need to have the right guy to do that.

01:18:27.000 Some people are not ready to be a warrior.

01:18:29.000 Right.

01:18:30.000 They can train like a warrior, but now a warrior.

01:18:32.000 Yeah.

01:18:33.000 Yeah, I can only imagine.

01:18:35.000 Especially like Krav Maga in the United States.

01:18:37.000 There's legit Krav Maga schools in the United States, for sure.

01:18:40.000 There's really good instruction.

01:18:42.000 There's really good people. 1.00

01:18:42.000 But there's also a lot of fucking horse shit. 1.00

01:18:45.000 Right. 1.00

01:18:45.000 Just like with karate. 1.00

01:18:46.000 There's a lot of mall karate where you go to these places and it might be fine for little kids.

01:18:51.000 They're learning a little martial arts, learning a little discipline.

01:18:54.000 They have goals.

01:18:56.000 You know, I want to get my orange belt and they get it and they get excited and it's good for them.

01:19:00.000 It's good for their mind.

01:19:02.000 But it's really critical when you're learning a martial art, one of the most important things is find a legitimate instructor.

01:19:09.000 It's the most important thing.

01:19:10.000 Because relearning things is so hard.

01:19:13.000 Back when I was teaching, when I taught someone, if they didn't know anything, they came to me with no martial arts experience.

01:19:20.000 It was so much easier than if someone came to me with bad martial arts experience.

01:19:24.000 Because if you took karate for a few years from some bozo and you did everything all wrong, I would have to re-teach you.

01:19:32.000 So when you would panic, if you would get nervous, you would go right back to that old way. 0.95

01:19:37.000 Like as soon as someone puts pressure on you, you would go right back to the old shitty technique. 0.95

01:19:41.000 That's exactly what... 0.83

01:19:42.000 It's all about what is your...

01:19:44.000 The learning and the movement database is in your brain is the same position.

01:19:49.000 So whatever you achieve, you put in the database is wrong.

01:19:53.000 And the stress is going to repeat the same things.

01:19:55.000 That's for everything, man.

01:19:56.000 For everything, yeah.

01:19:57.000 Even for pool.

01:19:58.000 Like, there's certain techniques that people learn where they don't learn how to do pool correctly.

01:20:02.000 You only play in billiards, you stand the wrong way, and you get used to it.

01:20:06.000 And when you're in a match and there's a lot on the line, you go right back to the old ways, even if you take lessons.

01:20:11.000 It's so important that when you learn things in life, to learn them right the first time. 0.97

01:20:17.000 That's why when you're growing up as a human being, I think it's been an issue with me, I think it's been an issue with you as well, when your childhood is kind of fucking crazy.

01:20:27.000 Like you develop these ways of thinking and acting as a child that are very difficult to break. 0.54

01:20:33.000 As you get older and as an adult, it's like you have this foundation that's very faulty.

01:20:38.000 And you have to be cognizantly aware. 0.97

01:20:40.000 You have to be consciously aware of that, okay, this foundation is fucked up because I grew up with domestic violence and I grew up with, you know, no dad. 0.96

01:20:49.000 And so I have to make sure that I don't fall into these... 0.95

01:20:52.000 Patterns that I had established in my head when I was 8, 9, and 10, and 11. As you're growing up as an adult, this is the way you're looking at life.

01:21:00.000 And then you have to kind of restructure it.

01:21:02.000 It's almost like you're starting over.

01:21:04.000 But if you meet someone who has like...

01:21:06.000 Great father and a great mother and they grow up and they have like a great fundamental balance But there's those people used to always make me nervous when I was a kid Because I was always like God like these how do they I don't even know anybody like that I don't know like I would feel like Inferior to them like when I was around people that had like a good childhood.

01:21:25.000 I would feel inferior.

01:21:27.000 I still do do you sure I feel weird.

01:21:33.000 I have friends that I think about them now and I go, I want to really interview their parents. 0.99

01:21:40.000 Like, what did they do to get this kid to be such a fucking... 0.99

01:21:43.000 What was their recipe to get this child to be fucking a superhuman being? 1.00

01:21:50.000 And I'm not talking about Julius Irving's father or fucking GSP's dad. 0.98

01:21:56.000 I'm talking about people who you meet in life that are really fair... 0.96

01:22:00.000 That are really kind.

01:22:01.000 I look at those people and I go, I wondered what their parents did with them to have that ability to want to help people and go out of their way. 0.99

01:22:12.000 I always think about that shit, especially now as a parent. 0.99

01:22:17.000 You're like, what is the fucking chemistry of love for them to understand? 1.00

01:22:22.000 You know, we were talking on the way up here when my mother died. 0.99

01:22:25.000 You know, it was the 70s.

01:22:27.000 And let's face it, we were still Spicks in that New Jersey neighborhood.

01:22:31.000 You know, in Boston and those areas, you hear things.

01:22:34.000 But I remember those Italian kids coming to my mom's wake, and they couldn't make eye contact with me. 1.00

01:22:41.000 The same ones that would say Spick or whatever, because I short-circuited them.

01:22:46.000 I broke them, because the number one word in Italy is mama.

01:22:50.000 Right.

01:22:52.000 That's it.

01:22:53.000 That's it.

01:22:53.000 When you're Italian, everything is mama.

01:22:55.000 They would come to that wake, and I would short-circuit them, because they never could think of that situation happening to them.

01:23:03.000 And I'm still friends with those people today.

01:23:06.000 And I always wondered why, you know, who raised them, that they're super great people. 1.00

01:23:12.000 And then you come here, to a place like California, and you meet people, and they have nice parents or whatever, but they're just the biggest scumbags in the fucking world. 1.00

01:23:23.000 That's what interests me in my life. 0.99

01:23:25.000 I always feel like those people, the parents probably weren't around that much.

01:23:28.000 They might be really nice people, but they weren't around to really install the right ideals and values and morals in their system. 0.99

01:23:38.000 Maybe the parents were off at fucking swinger parties or some shit. 1.00

01:23:43.000 I always look at that with even the kids I grew up with. 1.00

01:23:47.000 I have a friend that his dad was little But his mother was solid.

01:23:53.000 When you say his dad was a little, you mean gay? 1.00

01:23:55.000 He'll put a bullet in your fucking eyeball. 1.00

01:23:57.000 He'll put a bullet in your eyeball? 1.00

01:23:58.000 At lunch. 0.99

01:24:00.000 I mean, when I would hang out with him, people's parents would come to me and go, I wouldn't be going over there if I was you.

01:24:07.000 Really?

01:24:07.000 Did you see the article on his dad?

01:24:09.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:24:09.000 Oh, he's a psycho? 1.00

01:24:10.000 No, no, no. 0.99

01:24:11.000 He was... 0.97

01:24:11.000 Crazy? 0.97

01:24:12.000 Just a street guy. 0.92

01:24:13.000 Okay.

01:24:14.000 And, you know, today the kid is one of my best friends.

01:24:17.000 Never had a problem.

01:24:18.000 Never had a law problem.

01:24:20.000 Never...

01:24:20.000 No record.

01:24:21.000 Never ticket.

01:24:23.000 Married.

01:24:23.000 Children.

01:24:24.000 School.

01:24:24.000 Well, you know there's people that grow up with horrible environments and they come out amazing and then their brothers and sisters are all in jail.

01:24:30.000 It's weird how a person makes choices in their life...

01:24:33.000 That really establishes their entire life.

01:24:37.000 And a lot of those choices, man, I hate to say it, but it could be luck.

01:24:41.000 They could have made a lucky choice early on, and that lucky choice led them down a better road than someone who's made a poor choice. 0.74

01:24:49.000 Like kids that get involved in the juvenile detention system when they're really young, boy, that fucks them up so hard.

01:24:55.000 The percentages are horrible.

01:24:56.000 The percentages are horrible.

01:24:58.000 And good friends.

01:24:59.000 Good people around you.

01:25:01.000 Yes.

01:25:01.000 And can tell you the right things.

01:25:03.000 Even if it's hard when it's telling you the truth.

01:25:07.000 It sounds like a smack behind the head, but make you open your eyes, make you say, you know what?

01:25:12.000 Once you put a kid in one of those gladiator prisons, the percentages, it's like we were just talking about that movie that came out, Sleepers.

01:25:21.000 Yeah.

01:25:22.000 All four of them went away.

01:25:24.000 Two of them came out to become Westies.

01:25:26.000 The other two came out to be decent, the percentages. 0.99

01:25:29.000 It's 50 fucking percent. 0.98

01:25:31.000 And that's on the conservative side. 0.99

01:25:34.000 It's gotta be higher.

01:25:36.000 Once you get that first tattoo...

01:25:39.000 And smoke that first cigarette.

01:25:40.000 All those things, your percentages go deeper and deeper, you know. 1.00

01:25:44.000 Once you get the tattooed knuckles that say fuck, you're doomed. 1.00

01:25:49.000 You know, Mike Tyson got the face tattoo at 40. Everything had already, all the bad stuff out of his life had already come through. 1.00

01:25:56.000 But if Mike Tyson would have came with that face tattoo at 18, you know, it's so weird, like, how I saw it.

01:26:02.000 I saw people on the bottom that today, they're successful and the police records don't matter or nothing matters.

01:26:09.000 And then I saw other people who were like sneaky people.

01:26:12.000 Who now they're in trouble for tax evasion.

01:26:15.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:26:16.000 Like there's always...

01:26:19.000 Yeah.

01:26:20.000 My mother was a big thing for me.

01:26:21.000 Like you say, mama.

01:26:22.000 Mama is a big part. 0.82

01:26:24.000 My mother she always told me, give more than you want to receive.

01:26:28.000 Give double. 0.99

01:26:29.000 It was a big story.

01:26:31.000 Be straight to people.

01:26:34.000 Don't fool around yourself.

01:26:36.000 So you're not going to fool around people.

01:26:37.000 I believe that thing.

01:26:40.000 Yeah.

01:26:40.000 It also helps if you know people that work hard.

01:26:43.000 When I was a kid, my best friends had jobs.

01:26:47.000 They worked hard.

01:26:49.000 They were constantly working.

01:26:50.000 They were always working.

01:26:51.000 At a young age?

01:26:52.000 Yeah, my friend Jimmy Utilio and Jimmy Lawless.

01:26:54.000 I'm still buddies with them to this day.

01:26:55.000 But we were in high school. 1.00

01:26:57.000 Those fucking guys always worked. 1.00

01:26:58.000 In high school? 1.00

01:26:59.000 Yeah, in high school.

01:27:01.000 Always worked.

01:27:02.000 Always worked.

01:27:02.000 Had construction jobs.

01:27:03.000 Always worked.

01:27:04.000 I had construction jobs too because my dad was an architect.

01:27:06.000 My stepdad always set me up with...

01:27:11.000 These construction crews and stuff.

01:27:12.000 So I did these jobs. 0.86

01:27:14.000 And so it gave me the understanding that if you've never worked hard and you don't know what the fuck hard work is, then all of a sudden you're 18 and then you're in college and then you got out of college and then you have to get a job. 0.94

01:27:25.000 You have no real experience with actual difficult work. 0.97

01:27:29.000 I just don't think you appreciate what it takes to get by.

01:27:33.000 Growing up, seeing people that had a strong work ethic and realizing that that wasn't something that I had, but maybe it was something that I need to consider as being a very important skill, a very important trait. 0.83

01:27:47.000 The ability to, like, just actually get shit done.

01:27:50.000 To get up in the morning when your alarm clock goes off and go. 0.98

01:27:53.000 You're uncomfortable.

01:27:54.000 You want to stay in bed.

01:27:55.000 It's cold out.

01:27:56.000 You don't want to do it.

01:27:57.000 That ability to just do it.

01:27:59.000 Just get up and do it. 0.99

01:28:00.000 You know that old Nike fucking slogan, just do it? 0.99

01:28:03.000 It's one of the best fucking slogans of all time. 0.99

01:28:07.000 You know how many people actually went out and worked out just because of that, just do it? 0.98

01:28:10.000 That might have been like the most effective ad campaign in the history of ad campaigns.

01:28:14.000 When it came to actually getting people to do things that are uncomfortable and something that actually made sense, just do it. 0.94

01:28:21.000 So fucking, so important. 0.81

01:28:24.000 It's so important. 0.99

01:28:25.000 You just gotta fucking get things done. 0.95

01:28:27.000 And for so many people, like you were talking about at the beginning of the podcast, Joey, that book, The War of Art, where it talks about resistance. 1.00

01:28:33.000 There's so many people that just fuck off. 1.00

01:28:36.000 They fuck off, and they don't get the things done that they need to get done, and that haunts them. 1.00

01:28:41.000 We know it as comics. 1.00

01:28:42.000 We know so many guys that don't write new material.

01:28:45.000 They just don't.

01:28:46.000 They just don't.

01:28:47.000 They don't work.

01:28:48.000 They don't work.

01:28:49.000 You know why?

01:28:49.000 Because when you have new material, man, sometimes it doesn't go well.

01:28:53.000 Sometimes you bomb.

01:28:54.000 Sometimes you go up and it's clunky.

01:28:55.000 It's not ready.

01:28:57.000 And when you do a special, like when you just released a special, you know what it's like.

01:29:01.000 That material's dead now.

01:29:03.000 And so now you have to write all new material and you have a bunch of people that are coming to pay to see you.

01:29:07.000 Oh my God, it's out.

01:29:07.000 Oh, you're panicking.

01:29:09.000 It's out.

01:29:09.000 I'm panicking.

01:29:10.000 And the shows aren't always good. 0.92

01:29:11.000 Yeah, I panic every fucking week every week when I go on the road I panic because I do not have a full 50 minutes that snow I got a couple fucking minutes and I'm trying out new shit constantly constantly, but it comes together slowly but surely together But it's just like anything else. 0.86

01:29:28.000 It's sticking with it. 0.98

01:29:28.000 Right now I'm in a slump. 0.98

01:29:30.000 So what do you do as a baseball player?

01:29:32.000 Jamie, when you're in a slump, what do you do as a baseball player?

01:29:35.000 You quit?

01:29:35.000 No!

01:29:36.000 You keep fucking hitting. 1.00

01:29:37.000 And you keep striking out, and you keep fucking striking out, and you keep it together. 1.00

01:29:42.000 You cannot lose it. 0.99

01:29:43.000 I.K.A. Tony Perez, 1976-75 against the Boston Red Sox.

01:29:50.000 He went 0-17 in the series, and in Game 7 he hit the single that changed.

01:29:55.000 They won the World Series, really.

01:29:57.000 So he could have just said, I don't want to do it.

01:30:00.000 I know I'm in a comedian slump.

01:30:01.000 Well, not anymore now. 0.98

01:30:02.000 But like in December and January, it was fucking heavy, Jack. 0.97

01:30:06.000 But you just got to work yourself through it. 0.98

01:30:08.000 Yeah, there's no other way.

01:30:10.000 You just get yourself through it.

01:30:11.000 It's the weirdest thing.

01:30:11.000 There's no other way.

01:30:12.000 There's no other way.

01:30:13.000 You know what?

01:30:14.000 And for me, I could lie to you and say, well, I'm not going to get on stage.

01:30:17.000 I'm going to stay home and write for the next three months.

01:30:19.000 That's not good enough.

01:30:21.000 Wrong answer, Jack.

01:30:22.000 That's not gonna work.

01:30:23.000 It's not good enough.

01:30:24.000 You gotta keep going to the well.

01:30:25.000 Like, right now I have a problem. 0.96

01:30:27.000 You know, last year, I have such a fear of being on my back in jujitsu that it fucking made me... 0.97

01:30:34.000 I will not quit. 0.98

01:30:36.000 I will not quit.

01:30:37.000 Because what happens if I'm with Joe, I'm with my family one day, and I get kicked in the stomach, and I'm on my back, am I gonna panic? 0.98

01:30:43.000 So I cannot fucking quit. 0.97

01:30:45.000 So I kept going back to jujitsu. 0.98

01:30:47.000 But the weird thing was I was doing it wrong.

01:30:49.000 Even though I was putting in the mat time, I wasn't working on my breathing.

01:30:53.000 I thought that by me going three times a week and doing what a fighter does, stay in the...

01:30:59.000 And that fighting three times a year that my breathing would come together.

01:31:03.000 It would come together, but in little...

01:31:05.000 not good delivery.

01:31:09.000 Like, you know what I'm saying?

01:31:09.000 Like, the time I'd put in for what I'd get back wasn't rewarding enough.

01:31:14.000 Like, I would think of going...

01:31:15.000 You needed a different approach?

01:31:17.000 So, and then I started doing those little things with Alberto in the back when I get there, the breathing.

01:31:21.000 You know what, man?

01:31:22.000 I'm a big boy. 1.00

01:31:23.000 You don't have to tell me, dick. 1.00

01:31:24.000 I know I got something wrong with the back of my head with that fear shit. 1.00

01:31:28.000 And it's with the needles. 0.99

01:31:30.000 And what did I do with the needles, dog?

01:31:32.000 I could faint walking into a doctor's office.

01:31:35.000 I could smell cotton. 1.00

01:31:37.000 I can't smell shit. 1.00

01:31:39.000 I could smell fucking cotton when I walk into a doctor's office. 1.00

01:31:43.000 I could smell that light. 1.00

01:31:45.000 Because it associates with fear.

01:31:47.000 Tremendous.

01:31:47.000 When I walk into a doctor's office, my blood pressure is 190 over 160, dog.

01:31:52.000 They look at me and go, how are you walking?

01:31:55.000 I go, take a hike.

01:31:56.000 Come back in 10 minutes.

01:31:57.000 And once my doctor comes back and he starts talking to me and we talk about Chicago and hot beef sandwiches, he goes, watch this.

01:32:06.000 And it's 140 over 80. I think you're right, huh?

01:32:09.000 I know.

01:32:09.000 I lived through this.

01:32:11.000 I lived through this.

01:32:12.000 It's all about, for me, when I train people, you know, I try to say, okay, you're doing 10 push-ups, and if you come to the 8, the number 8, and you see that you start to struggle, that's it.

01:32:23.000 Stop.

01:32:23.000 I don't allow you to do a bad...

01:32:27.000 Number.

01:32:27.000 Number nine, because I know number nine is going to be a bad push-up.

01:32:30.000 So a bad form.

01:32:31.000 So what happens?

01:32:32.000 When you're going to be under stress, you're going to be repeating the bad form.

01:32:36.000 So for me, I try to remap you, like you said before when you were teaching, remap you in the way that you always try to achieve The best.

01:32:44.000 Like you said, just do it.

01:32:45.000 What I say, okay, you need to repeat the things until you never do it wrong.

01:32:49.000 Don't do it right.

01:32:50.000 You never do it wrong.

01:32:51.000 Because do it right once, it can come from luckiness.

01:32:53.000 Right.

01:32:53.000 It's a lucky shot.

01:32:54.000 I want you to learn how to do it right every single time.

01:32:58.000 And that's when we can step forward to the next level.

01:33:00.000 Do you subscribe to that Pavel Tatsulini?

01:33:03.000 You know, he's got that strong first ideology where you don't do the failure ever.

01:33:09.000 I do that now.

01:33:11.000 That's how I do all my work.

01:33:12.000 I don't lift to failure, ever.

01:33:14.000 Like, say if I could do ten reps or something, I do five.

01:33:17.000 And then I wait like ten minutes and I do another five.

01:33:19.000 Then I wait ten minutes, I'll do another five.

01:33:21.000 Then I wait ten minutes, I'll do another five.

01:33:22.000 And the idea being that it's more important to do more workouts in the week with low repetition than it is to do a high-repetition workout.

01:33:33.000 Where that guy's like, come on, spot me!

01:33:35.000 Last one! 1.00

01:33:37.000 That's not good.

01:33:38.000 Your body's not designed to do that.

01:33:39.000 Your body's not designed to be at failure, ever.

01:33:42.000 So what you're supposed to do is build yourself up so you're doing these exercises.

01:33:47.000 And he says that you should think of them as a skill.

01:33:50.000 That strength is a skill.

01:33:52.000 So each exercise you're doing, you don't want to be tired when you're doing a skill.

01:33:55.000 You don't want to be completely exhausted when you're trying to pull back a bow and arrow or shoot a ball and pull.

01:34:02.000 What you want to do is you want to have that cemented in your mind, what he calls greasing the groove.

01:34:07.000 Like, each time you do it, you do it perfect, you do it with perfect form, and you just do low repetitions with heavy weights.

01:34:13.000 Absolutely.

01:34:14.000 You know, Power and Strong First, I believe, is another amazing school.

01:34:18.000 Yes.

01:34:18.000 School of strength.

01:34:19.000 And one of my coaches of strength conditioning is from that.

01:34:22.000 Yeah.

01:34:22.000 And, yeah, that's what I'm doing for myself, even because of those old flights, you know, my jet lag, my CNS, my scenario system is already...

01:34:30.000 Yeah.

01:34:30.000 What I do, when I train, maybe every four weeks, I try to do one or two reps at 95%.

01:34:37.000 I never try to do a personal record.

01:34:39.000 I always like to work like 85%, few reps.

01:34:43.000 So even psychologically, I know that I can handle the good form at that level, never going to stress out.

01:34:49.000 For people who are interested in this, go to Pavel.

01:34:52.000 There's a lot of stuff online, but I think some of the best stuff online is him on the Tim Ferriss podcast.

01:34:57.000 Really excellent stuff.

01:34:59.000 And he's got his own books out there, and he's got books on tape, and he's got videos, and you can see a lot of his videos.

01:35:04.000 His method is so good.

01:35:06.000 It's so smart.

01:35:07.000 And it's made big differences with me.

01:35:09.000 First of all, it's cut my injuries down radically.

01:35:12.000 Like, radically.

01:35:14.000 Because I would be doing these, you know, 12, 15 repetitions with heavy weight and, like, barely getting the 13th one.

01:35:21.000 And then the 14th.

01:35:23.000 And then, you know, your form gets all fucking sloppy, your back's bending in a weird way, and it's terrible for you. 0.93

01:35:28.000 It's terrible. 0.97

01:35:29.000 We've been told like that.

01:35:30.000 Yes.

01:35:30.000 Just push, you know, no pain, no gain.

01:35:33.000 That was... 1.00

01:35:33.000 Poor shit. 1.00

01:35:34.000 No, that's not how you... 1.00

01:35:35.000 It's so dumb. 0.96

01:35:37.000 But now, I'm lucky that I have weights at home, so I have kettlebells at home, so I can do it four days a week, five days a week, and I'll work out for an hour. 0.98

01:35:44.000 I just go in there.

01:35:45.000 It's 8 o'clock in the morning.

01:35:46.000 I start lifting.

01:35:47.000 I'm done in an hour, and I'm not even exhausted.

01:35:49.000 Not only am I not exhausted, I feel kind of pumped up and kind of charged.

01:35:52.000 But I'm not like, oh.

01:35:54.000 Like, I used to work out sometimes.

01:35:55.000 Like, back in the day, I would do lifts.

01:35:58.000 And by the time the lift was over, I was lightheaded.

01:36:02.000 My legs were shaking.

01:36:03.000 I could barely walk.

01:36:04.000 You don't have the energy left to do things.

01:36:06.000 And then I would try to go to jiu-jitsu.

01:36:08.000 Hilarious.

01:36:09.000 I would just get mauled.

01:36:11.000 I just couldn't do it. 0.99

01:36:13.000 I know I'd be fucking wrecked for like two or three days. 0.87

01:36:15.000 So I'd be really nervous to lift in the morning and then do jiu-jitsu at night because I would know that I was going to be operating at like 50% or 60%. 1.00

01:36:23.000 I'd just get my ass kicked.

01:36:25.000 But if you do kettlebells with low repetitions, even with heavy weight, you could do a real good workout and then that night you could work jiu-jitsu and you could be 100%. 0.99

01:36:34.000 Or close to it.

01:36:43.000 He wants you to finish the kettlebell workout energized.

01:36:48.000 He doesn't want you to finish it mort.

01:36:51.000 He doesn't want that at all.

01:36:52.000 I read that about him.

01:36:54.000 He wants you to finish there ready to go take on the world.

01:36:57.000 And I tell you, I called Joe, and I go, Joe, I gotta talk to you.

01:37:01.000 I go, you gave me the kettlebells.

01:37:03.000 I love doing the cleans.

01:37:06.000 I love doing the swings.

01:37:08.000 But, you know, I try to do 10 sets of 10, 12 swings in 10 minutes.

01:37:14.000 And I would do that, and I'd achieve my goal, and I'd be very happy, but then I couldn't go to jiu-jitsu for three days.

01:37:20.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:37:21.000 So what the fuck did I do? 0.99

01:37:22.000 I'm 53. Right. 0.99

01:37:24.000 You know, but I would go.

01:37:25.000 I did it. 0.99

01:37:26.000 And then I'd do five sets of cleans with two 35s, and then strand, and then jump rope, and then try to do sit-ups, and then for three days, I'm dog shit. 1.00

01:37:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:37:36.000 I'm dog shit. 1.00

01:37:36.000 And I called him up, and he goes, then dog, cut it in half. 1.00

01:37:40.000 Right.

01:37:40.000 And then I said, you know what?

01:37:41.000 I'm only going to do my weights now on the road.

01:37:44.000 When I go to a hotel now, every two weeks, I work every other week, I'll hit the dumbbells and do the elliptical, but when I'm in town, I'll just do the tack fit in the beginning, a little jujitsu, and then I'll do a tack fit at the end.

01:37:57.000 And you know what, man?

01:37:58.000 I don't want to walk around hunched up when I'm 60. I got a four-year-old.

01:38:03.000 I got to be around and be...

01:38:05.000 I like that I can touch my toes.

01:38:07.000 You know, I like all this stuff.

01:38:08.000 But one thing I noticed about TACFIT, that there's a couple moves that they put in there.

01:38:13.000 I don't know if you did it or somebody did it.

01:38:15.000 That they're jujitsu friendly.

01:38:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:38:18.000 Like...

01:38:19.000 The movement, you know, if you look at when...

01:38:21.000 If you look, even the kids rolling around when it's in this early stage, you go to some, you know, double S, they can transfer to a shin box or whatever.

01:38:30.000 You can go into the...

01:38:31.000 rolling into the guards.

01:38:32.000 You got to talk up to him, Mike.

01:38:33.000 Oh, sorry, sorry.

01:38:34.000 So you can see, you know, moving is movement.

01:38:37.000 So what my coach started to do is start to analyze those movements and try to get mechanical information about those movements.

01:38:45.000 But they apply very well on transition for some Jiu-Jitsu move.

01:38:51.000 And that's another thing that Alberto was blowing his mind.

01:38:55.000 He said, if I get the guys to move better, It's gonna be easier for me to pass the technique because the body already knows it.

01:39:03.000 One of the things that Eddie found is that guys who are break dancers excelled in Jiu Jitsu.

01:39:09.000 There's a kid who fought this past weekend, Lando Venata.

01:39:13.000 Groovy Lando fought this past weekend.

01:39:15.000 He fought David Tamer.

01:39:16.000 Crazy fight.

01:39:17.000 It was a co-main event.

01:39:18.000 Lando has only been striking for six years and he's phenomenal.

01:39:23.000 But what happened was he started with a BMX background.

01:39:26.000 He was a pro BMX racer and was like apparently like a national champion BMX and that pumping, pumping bike legs, you know, just being able to like generate extreme speed off the line.

01:39:38.000 He developed this explosive ability to use his legs.

01:39:41.000 And so that, like, having cross-training, whether it's through tack fit, or whether it's through yoga, or whether it's through kettlebells, or breakdancing, or anything else.

01:39:51.000 Soccer for Aldo?

01:39:53.000 Oh, yeah!

01:39:53.000 Soccer for all those Brazilian kickboxes and stuff.

01:39:55.000 Yeah, sprinting, all that sprinting they do, and all the kicking they do in soccer.

01:39:59.000 Learning how to move your body.

01:40:01.000 Like, look at what's going on with Conor McGregor.

01:40:03.000 Right.

01:40:03.000 And that Ido Portal guy.

01:40:05.000 He's concentrating so much on movement, and movement is just a huge factor in his success because his ability to dictate, like, where...

01:40:14.000 First of all, his ability to move in and out is better than almost anybody's. 0.99

01:40:19.000 His ability to get out of the way and his ability to move in closely and move like a fucking snake. 0.99

01:40:24.000 Like he's on the outside, and boom, he's in. 1.00

01:40:26.000 And he's in before you know it.

01:40:28.000 And these complicated, sort of tricky moves to try to time and follow.

01:40:33.000 Very, very difficult guy to time.

01:40:35.000 And a lot of that comes from constant application of all this movement theory and movement training.

01:40:41.000 And the more you can move your body any way you want, the more you're going to be able to move your body any way you want in competition.

01:40:48.000 Absolutely.

01:40:50.000 At the end of the day, like you said at the beginning, you can call it Taffy, SFG, Ido, as long as the coach is in charge.

01:41:01.000 He's really smart.

01:41:02.000 He understands how to mop you down.

01:41:05.000 That's good.

01:41:05.000 Yeah, and Nick Curzon we were talking about.

01:41:08.000 What he's into is all plyometrics, man.

01:41:10.000 He barely has these guys lifting weights.

01:41:13.000 He's got guys jumping over hurdles and stuff and doing all these leaping back and forth and back and forth and back and forth.

01:41:20.000 He's all about movement in a plyometric way, in an explosive way.

01:41:24.000 And that's one of the reasons why he gets such great results out of his fighters.

01:41:28.000 It's because they developed this extraordinary ability to close the distance.

01:41:32.000 Extraordinary ability to get out of the way.

01:41:35.000 You know, the ability to move and then to stop what you're doing and then counter quickly.

01:41:39.000 You know, all that stuff is just so giant, man.

01:41:41.000 Now, how does this CrossFit fit into everything we're discussing right now? 0.99

01:41:45.000 Because Studio City is the fucking capital of CrossFit. 0.98

01:41:50.000 You know, you can't go anywhere in Studio City without seeing five guys my age running down the street with a 50-pound plate over their head. 0.99

01:41:58.000 And I'm sitting there going, something's not right here.

01:42:01.000 What do you think?

01:42:02.000 I can't tell you what I think.

01:42:04.000 I think CrossFit, at the beginning, has a brilliant idea.

01:42:08.000 It was bringing back a lot of things that were disappearing, like Olympic weightlifting and gymnastics and stuff, so I think it was good.

01:42:16.000 It started to ruin the things when the games came, when they become a really unofficial sport and people just get crazy.

01:42:23.000 It's a competition, so they're just training with that goal.

01:42:26.000 I need to beat that cup time, I need to beat that things, and they don't understand.

01:42:31.000 It's going to kill you.

01:42:32.000 At that speed, at that timing, it's going to be too much.

01:42:36.000 A lot of injuries, I hear.

01:42:37.000 Yeah, but it needs tendons, ligaments, muscles.

01:42:40.000 It needs time to adapt.

01:42:41.000 And if you're taking a weightlifter, he spends an entire life to learn that kind of movement perfectly.

01:42:49.000 Never screw the movement.

01:42:50.000 And how many reps he does in his competition.

01:42:53.000 One.

01:42:54.000 You can't do that kind of athletic jazz movement so fast, even if you reduce the weight, because you can't control one, two, three reps, and then you might be using up.

01:43:04.000 I was talking to Michael Lach.

01:43:06.000 Michael Lach was one of the most successful CrossFit coaches, especially here in South California.

01:43:11.000 He used to own a big CrossFit gym in Van Nuys.

01:43:17.000 And he was telling me about it.

01:43:18.000 He has more experience than me, of course, CrossFit.

01:43:20.000 That was his business.

01:43:21.000 He told me, I believe that if you do it when you are 20 years old or something like this, into the 30, you can speed a little bit.

01:43:29.000 Then if you are smart enough, you understand that then you need to slow down.

01:43:34.000 If you train CrossFit without thinking, Cup time.

01:43:38.000 Try to see online how much this guy did.

01:43:40.000 So I want to beat this guy.

01:43:42.000 You're just training smartly.

01:43:44.000 You do your weightlifting, your rings.

01:43:47.000 It's going to be good.

01:43:49.000 But if you just take it as a sport, It's just conditioning you for that part, such as CrossFit.

01:43:55.000 You can, in conditioning for Jiu-Jitsu, try to do a CrossFit wood with the cup time, because, like you say, you're going to destroy yourself.

01:44:03.000 You keep saying cup time.

01:44:04.000 What does that mean?

01:44:05.000 Oh, you know, cup time is like, okay, you're supposed to do this wood, and let's say...

01:44:09.000 Wood.

01:44:09.000 W-O day.

01:44:11.000 Workout of the day.

01:44:12.000 Workout of the day.

01:44:12.000 In 30 minutes.

01:44:13.000 Let's say you're supposed to finish in 30 minutes.

01:44:16.000 Maybe you.

01:44:17.000 Maybe for me it takes 25 minutes.

01:44:19.000 I'm not sure about it.

01:44:20.000 I will do it in 25 minutes because I know that I can't control my movement.

01:44:23.000 I'm not going to get an injury.

01:44:25.000 I don't care.

01:44:26.000 But most of the people, they go online because now they want to see how much time.

01:44:29.000 And he was telling me, it's crazy.

01:44:32.000 They need to rebuild the site, the website.

01:44:35.000 And put more power because people, they go, when they wake up in the morning, they're going to see, okay, what is the word of the day this time?

01:44:44.000 Then when they go to work, they're going to go online again and see, okay, East Coast, they already probably did, all right, that's the average time.

01:44:52.000 All right, so I'm going back.

01:44:53.000 The time I finish the work, they go online again to see, okay, now East Coast, this is the time.

01:44:58.000 Now I go to the gym.

01:44:59.000 I try to do and put my time in.

01:45:02.000 In the evening, I go to see if someone beat me.

01:45:05.000 So they go into this loop thing that they want to compete.

01:45:08.000 Always compete.

01:45:08.000 Always compete for time.

01:45:09.000 Then you're going to kill yourself.

01:45:11.000 Well, Steve Maxwell said that he believes that what you're doing is when you're lifting and you're doing these Olympic lifts, you should be doing Olympic lifts to get you stronger for another sport, for a competition.

01:45:23.000 He doesn't believe that it should be a sport in itself.

01:45:26.000 Right.

01:45:26.000 And he also said that he doesn't believe in Olympic lifts for high repetition.

01:45:31.000 He's like, it's just a recipe for injury.

01:45:33.000 He goes, if you're doing cleans and presses, you watch Olympic lifters, they do one rep.

01:45:39.000 One rep?

01:45:39.000 Yeah, they're not doing it 30 times in a row.

01:45:42.000 And can it be done?

01:45:44.000 Yes.

01:45:44.000 You know what else can happen?

01:45:45.000 You can drop that weight in your head and die. 0.99

01:45:47.000 Because your body's failing. 0.58

01:45:49.000 Because you did 14 reps and everybody's going, come on!

01:45:52.000 Come on, Alberto!

01:45:53.000 One more day!

01:45:56.000 And your arms just literally give out and that thing paralyzes you.

01:45:59.000 That has happened.

01:46:00.000 That happened already.

01:46:01.000 Yeah, it has happened.

01:46:03.000 But like you're saying, it's a sport, so if you want to do games or competition, you need to train that way.

01:46:09.000 Right.

01:46:09.000 Well, there's guys that can do it and they do do it.

01:46:12.000 There's those Rich Froning guy that wins it every year.

01:46:16.000 There's guys that can do it and they do do it.

01:46:18.000 But you, the person who's listening to this, the average human being, you are way better off following a strong first method.

01:46:25.000 Or like your method, or what Pavel teaches, where you lift the weights, but you don't go to failure.

01:46:32.000 You use great technique.

01:46:33.000 Absolutely. 1.00

01:46:34.000 And if you want to get endurance, run up a fucking hill. 1.00

01:46:37.000 Okay? 1.00

01:46:37.000 Do rounds on a heavy bag. 1.00

01:46:39.000 You want endurance?

01:46:40.000 Do sprints on a heavy bag.

01:46:41.000 You know what I do?

01:46:41.000 I have a timer, and I set it for three minutes, and every 30 seconds, a buzzer goes off.

01:46:49.000 So there's a bell, and then every 30 seconds there's a buzzer. 0.99

01:46:52.000 And when those 30 seconds hit, you fucking sprint. 0.98

01:46:54.000 So it's 30 seconds, ba-ba-ba-ba-boom, ba-ba-ba-boom, ba-ba-ba-boom, ba-ba-ba-boom. 0.99

01:47:00.000 Just go fucking crazy for 30 seconds, and then the next buzzer hits. 0.58

01:47:02.000 So the next 30 seconds is so light. 0.99

01:47:05.000 The next 30 seconds, I'm just sort of going through the motions. 0.99

01:47:07.000 So I'm kicking and punching, and I'm waiting for that fucking buzzer. 0.98

01:47:10.000 And that buzzer goes off, and then I go off again. 0.99

01:47:13.000 Just do that if you want endurance.

01:47:15.000 That'll give you phenomenal endurance.

01:47:17.000 But strength, I am of the opinion, and this is just from the last few years of me operating this way, that you should do low repetitions and you should do it more often.

01:47:27.000 Absolutely.

01:47:27.000 I agree with you.

01:47:28.000 That's what I do for me.

01:47:29.000 I get better, I get stronger than before.

01:47:31.000 And I took my hormone track.

01:47:35.000 I took my cortisol level test and it lowered.

01:47:40.000 Just to train like that.

01:47:42.000 Lowered your stress.

01:47:43.000 Recovery time, lower reps.

01:47:45.000 How do you schedule your own personal workouts?

01:47:48.000 Do you have someone do it for you or do you decide based on how your body's feeling?

01:47:52.000 I do it to myself.

01:47:56.000 I have my schedule about how much traveling I need to cover.

01:48:01.000 You do a lot of traveling.

01:48:02.000 You keep talking about that.

01:48:03.000 That's an issue, huh?

01:48:05.000 For example, since January till now, I've been in Australia, I've been back to Italy, then I went back to Brazil, Brazil, back to Italy, Italy, Panama, Panama, Mexico, Mexico here, then I go back to Italy,

01:48:20.000 then I go back to Korea.

01:48:21.000 Oh, Jesus!

01:48:23.000 And that's happening this week, I'm here.

01:48:24.000 Next week, I'm maybe in Australia.

01:48:27.000 So it's crazy for me.

01:48:28.000 That's why I'm really very careful about the way that I eat, the way that I train.

01:48:32.000 Yeah.

01:48:32.000 And sleep, too, I bet, right?

01:48:34.000 Yeah, right, right. 0.93

01:48:34.000 It fucks with your sleep and all that traveling. 0.93

01:48:36.000 Yeah, so then, you know, like I was telling Joy, I use a lot of melatonin, of course.

01:48:41.000 Melatonin?

01:48:41.000 Yeah.

01:48:41.000 I use phosphatidylserine to reduce my cortisol level, you know.

01:48:46.000 And I try to plan, okay, I'm going to land in this place.

01:48:50.000 The time zone is different.

01:48:52.000 I try to adjust my meals on the time zone, you know, try my training so I can set up.

01:48:59.000 It's pretty complicated for me to stay in a decent shape.

01:49:03.000 Do you bring vitamins with you?

01:49:05.000 Yeah, I get vitamin C a lot, vitamin D and E a lot.

01:49:09.000 D and E? Yeah.

01:49:11.000 And what about as far as your diet?

01:49:13.000 What do you concentrate on?

01:49:14.000 Do you concentrate on eating a lot of vegetables?

01:49:17.000 I actually tried super green.

01:49:20.000 You gave me your super greens, very cool.

01:49:21.000 Yeah, super greens is great because you can take it with you.

01:49:23.000 Right, right.

01:49:24.000 It'll help.

01:49:24.000 It's great stuff, man.

01:49:26.000 Oh, it's giant.

01:49:27.000 I don't like greens.

01:49:29.000 It's great to mix it in water.

01:49:29.000 I love greens, but in some places you go, it's crazy.

01:49:32.000 You ask for veggies.

01:49:33.000 The only things they give you, yeah, it's nothing.

01:49:36.000 It's a salad or a couple of things.

01:49:39.000 That's easy for me to put it on my shake or whatever, water or whatever.

01:49:42.000 Yeah, vegetables is so goddamn important, so important for people, and so many people just, they don't have it in their diet.

01:49:48.000 They mess up, and your body just does not have those nutrients, and it starts drawing them out of your body. 0.62

01:49:53.000 It takes it out of your bones, it takes it out of your muscle.

01:49:56.000 And also, you're just not recovering correctly.

01:49:58.000 You're not developing correctly.

01:50:00.000 Where do you get your produce from up here? 1.00

01:50:02.000 I mean, that's the dumbest question. 0.98

01:50:04.000 Tomatoes don't taste like tomatoes no more, Joe. 0.99

01:50:06.000 Well, that's because the tomatoes that you get in the grocery stores are designed to last longer.

01:50:10.000 They're not designed to taste good.

01:50:11.000 No, but I go to the farmer's markets.

01:50:13.000 I do as much as I... I got up yesterday early, went to the farm.

01:50:17.000 I try as much as I can.

01:50:18.000 I mean, I can't...

01:50:19.000 I crave tomatoes.

01:50:21.000 Go to...

01:50:21.000 Get heirloom tomatoes, Joey.

01:50:22.000 They look ugly.

01:50:23.000 They taste amazing. 0.69

01:50:24.000 No, I get them.

01:50:25.000 And they only last like a few days.

01:50:26.000 Like a few days, yeah.

01:50:27.000 That's the problem.

01:50:27.000 Because they're real tomatoes.

01:50:29.000 They're not these fucking franken tomatoes that you get. 0.98

01:50:31.000 Yeah, I don't go to... 0.98

01:50:31.000 I don't go to... 0.98

01:50:32.000 You get tomatoes.

01:50:33.000 They're hard and they're pale.

01:50:35.000 You cut into them.

01:50:36.000 You're like, is this a tomato or is this an apple?

01:50:38.000 They're tasteless. 0.99

01:50:39.000 Like, what the fuck is this? 0.99

01:50:40.000 It's weird. 0.99

01:50:41.000 And, you know, they only do it so that they can keep them on those trucks longer and drive around the country with them and keep them on the shelves in the grocery store longer.

01:50:48.000 Are you growing your own produce yet?

01:50:49.000 Yeah.

01:50:50.000 Yeah, we grow our own vegetables.

01:50:51.000 Tomatoes?

01:50:51.000 What else?

01:50:52.000 Yeah, we grow tomatoes.

01:50:53.000 We grow kale.

01:50:54.000 We grow squash.

01:50:55.000 We grow cucumbers.

01:50:57.000 We grow a lot of things.

01:50:59.000 Yeah, I think if you can, you should do it.

01:51:01.000 It's very satisfying to make a salad out of something that you grew yourself.

01:51:06.000 And just super healthy.

01:51:07.000 You know where it came from?

01:51:08.000 You know, we buy real healthy fertilizer, good soil, you know.

01:51:13.000 And I think good soil is really important too.

01:51:15.000 I have a friend who lived in Brooklyn, and he got his soil tested.

01:51:29.000 Right.

01:51:45.000 Grow the plants in there.

01:51:46.000 That's the best way because then you can completely control what soil they grow in.

01:51:51.000 And then, you know, it's just a very contained environment.

01:51:53.000 So that's how we do it.

01:51:54.000 We have these big potters and, you know, we grow watermelons and all kinds of different stuff.

01:51:58.000 I think I'm going to take a course because that would be my world.

01:52:02.000 That's it.

01:52:02.000 To become an old Italian man.

01:52:04.000 Roll up your pants. 0.78

01:52:06.000 Get a cigar.

01:52:07.000 Get a hose. 0.57

01:52:08.000 Oh, I love it, Joey.

01:52:09.000 I love it.

01:52:10.000 People come over.

01:52:12.000 Right now, everything's so green out here.

01:52:14.000 It's so amazing.

01:52:14.000 Yeah, it's beautiful because all the rain has been a...

01:52:17.000 It's amazing.

01:52:18.000 It's been raining a lot here, right?

01:52:19.000 Huh?

01:52:19.000 It's been raining a lot.

01:52:20.000 Like crazy.

01:52:21.000 Yeah, we had a drought for five years and then this year it's just been flooded.

01:52:25.000 They had a giant break of a dam in Sacramento.

01:52:27.000 Oh yeah, that's true.

01:52:28.000 You see that?

01:52:29.000 I was in Have you seen that, Joey?

01:52:30.000 I was in Panama when it happened.

01:52:31.000 Yeah, it's true. 0.95

01:52:32.000 It's fucking awesome. 0.71

01:52:33.000 Awesome. 0.97

01:52:34.000 There's this thing called the Glory Hole, the Morning Glory Hole up in Northern California.

01:52:38.000 It's this crazy hole that's in this lake.

01:52:40.000 And it hadn't operated in 10 years.

01:52:43.000 It hadn't been doing it.

01:52:45.000 Because it's like a vortex.

01:52:48.000 What do they call those when it spins like that?

01:52:51.000 What do they call those things?

01:52:51.000 Is it a vortex?

01:52:52.000 So it sucks this hole somehow or another.

01:52:55.000 When the water level gets to a certain point, it develops this hole in this lake, and it wasn't there for 10 years, and now it's finally back again for the first time.

01:53:04.000 Wow.

01:53:05.000 Yeah, there it is.

01:53:06.000 Isn't that nuts?

01:53:07.000 Wow, that's crazy, yeah.

01:53:08.000 Yeah, so for 10 years, the water level wasn't high enough for that actually to be happening, and now it's finally happening again, and people are all excited.

01:53:15.000 So it's pretty much over.

01:53:17.000 All of the drought issues that we had here in California are pretty much over. 1.00

01:53:22.000 Tell this fucking guy. 1.00

01:53:23.000 I don't care what TV they get. 1.00

01:53:26.000 Just get rid of this guy. 0.99

01:53:27.000 We've been waiting on this other TV for so long.

01:53:29.000 Tell him today. 0.99

01:53:30.000 Say, just get whatever the fuck you can get by Saturday. 0.99

01:53:33.000 Because we have a fight companion on Saturday. 0.98

01:53:35.000 We can't have this happening.

01:53:38.000 Do you take protein?

01:53:40.000 Protein?

01:53:41.000 Honestly, no.

01:53:42.000 I very rarely do.

01:53:44.000 I take hemp protein if I have to.

01:53:46.000 Like if I'm running and I'm low on food, I haven't eaten anything but I know I'm going to work out.

01:53:51.000 I like hemp protein because I can take a glass of hemp protein with coconut water and I can work out in 30 minutes.

01:53:59.000 No problem.

01:54:00.000 Because it digests so easy.

01:54:02.000 It just goes right into your system so easy.

01:54:04.000 It's a nice light.

01:54:06.000 You're only dealing with like 16 grams of protein.

01:54:08.000 It's nothing too crazy.

01:54:10.000 But most of my protein I get from meat.

01:54:12.000 Yeah, real food.

01:54:13.000 That's what we were discussing in the car.

01:54:15.000 Yeah.

01:54:16.000 If I'm on the plane and I didn't get the chance to cook my food and take it on the plane, I got some protein.

01:54:22.000 But otherwise, I like to get some whole food.

01:54:25.000 Yeah.

01:54:26.000 If I knew I was traveling and I couldn't get it, I'd bring a lot of bars with me.

01:54:29.000 I'd bring these, there's a company called Primal Kitchen.

01:54:33.000 This guy, Mark Sisson.

01:54:35.000 And he makes these, yeah, he makes these amazing bars because they're very low sugar.

01:54:39.000 It's only like five grand of sugar.

01:54:41.000 Yep.

01:54:41.000 He's got coconut, he's got cashews and coconuts.

01:54:45.000 He's got almonds and dark chocolate.

01:54:47.000 There's some back there if you want to try them.

01:54:49.000 Oh my God, he's got a coconut?

01:54:51.000 They go crazy for coconut.

01:54:53.000 Dog, he's got a vanilla coconut meal replacement.

01:54:56.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:57.000 Very good.

01:54:58.000 You know me.

01:54:59.000 I could drink this at 7 in the morning, me, smoke, and not eat till 2. I don't eat till after jiu-jitsu.

01:55:08.000 So I will drink that protein powder because I mix them up.

01:55:12.000 I use the hemp.

01:55:13.000 I use that.

01:55:14.000 Like if I have a long...

01:55:15.000 Like today, I drank the cocoa because I'm not going to be out of here till 2. You see me hungry?

01:55:19.000 You see me fidgeting?

01:55:20.000 No. 0.99

01:55:21.000 It's the real fucking deal. 0.99

01:55:22.000 The key is low sugar. 0.99

01:55:24.000 That is the key.

01:55:25.000 To eliminate as much sugar in your diet.

01:55:27.000 And by the way, folks, that includes fruit juices.

01:55:29.000 If you're thinking that you're drinking a big glass of orange juice in the morning and it's healthy... 0.99

01:55:33.000 That's the worst thing in the fucking world. 1.00

01:55:34.000 It's so crazy. 1.00

01:55:35.000 We thought that was healthy for so long.

01:55:38.000 For so long, we thought, oh, I'm drinking nice, healthy orange juice.

01:55:40.000 Look, it's got the pulp.

01:55:41.000 Even if you squeeze it at home.

01:55:42.000 But they got cereal.

01:55:43.000 They might be thinking, oh, we got cereal.

01:55:44.000 I don't need carbohydrates.

01:55:45.000 But they get the juice.

01:55:47.000 It's all sugar, man.

01:55:48.000 The more sugar you can cut out of your diet, the better.

01:55:51.000 And Sunday is my cheat day.

01:55:53.000 Yesterday I had pizza.

01:55:55.000 I had a Cuban sandwich. 0.99

01:55:56.000 I had a Cuban sandwich that was fucking delicious. 0.99

01:56:00.000 What is a Cuban sandwich? 0.99

01:56:02.000 It was in the movie, right?

01:56:04.000 In El Chef?

01:56:05.000 El Chef?

01:56:06.000 Yes.

01:56:06.000 What movie?

01:56:07.000 I didn't see Chef, but...

01:56:08.000 What is Chef?

01:56:08.000 They had a Cuban restaurant.

01:56:10.000 What movie is that?

01:56:10.000 Was that a movie with Bradley Cooper?

01:56:12.000 With who?

01:56:13.000 Was that three people saw that movie?

01:56:14.000 Jon Favreau in this movie.

01:56:15.000 Oh.

01:56:15.000 He makes a food truck.

01:56:16.000 People really like that movie.

01:56:17.000 I never saw it.

01:56:18.000 A food truck.

01:56:18.000 I love it.

01:56:19.000 What was the one with Bradley Cooper?

01:56:21.000 Something else with him now.

01:56:23.000 No one saw that movie.

01:56:23.000 He didn't even see that movie.

01:56:25.000 The people that edited that movie fell asleep.

01:56:28.000 Somebody put a unique thing on my page, Joe.

01:56:32.000 I gotta show you.

01:56:33.000 They put this thing about a restaurant in New York City.

01:56:38.000 I've been there.

01:56:39.000 Hari's been there.

01:56:40.000 It's called La Calidad.

01:56:41.000 It's the last Cuban-Chinese restaurant Really?

01:56:45.000 Cuban Chinese? 0.60

01:56:47.000 Joe, you gotta put...

01:56:47.000 And they have one last Cuban.

01:56:49.000 His name is Antonio Wong.

01:56:51.000 And the guy...

01:56:52.000 What?

01:56:53.000 Joe, you gotta put the thing on, please.

01:56:55.000 So there's a Chinese community in Cuba.

01:56:57.000 Huge!

01:56:58.000 The biggest Chinatown before Fidel. 0.94

01:57:00.000 Biggest Chinatown outside of China.

01:57:03.000 Wow.

01:57:03.000 But the people that were born there started talking Chinese and Cuban.

01:57:06.000 So when I was growing up, you had like Ampanachina, which is the Chinese bell on 57th and Bergen Line.

01:57:12.000 But the real deal one was this last one called La Caridad.

01:57:16.000 And somebody put it on my page yesterday, and we were watching.

01:57:20.000 Look at this.

01:57:21.000 Wow.

01:57:22.000 But they have, so they have...

01:57:25.000 Chinese and Cubana.

01:57:28.000 Criollo.

01:57:29.000 Criollo means what they do.

01:57:31.000 Look at that.

01:57:32.000 Fried bananas, pork fried rice.

01:57:35.000 This is in New York?

01:57:37.000 Yeah.

01:57:37.000 See if you can find the video, Jamie.

01:57:38.000 They put it on my Facebook page.

01:57:40.000 We need to go.

01:57:41.000 Next time we're in New York and we do a gig together.

01:57:43.000 Ari goes all the time when he was in New York.

01:57:45.000 Really?

01:57:46.000 They're open until 2. Somebody found Ari, by the way.

01:57:49.000 Yeah, Vietnam.

01:57:50.000 Yeah, he was in Vietnam.

01:57:51.000 They got photos of him. 1.00

01:57:52.000 Someone met him on a fucking beach somewhere. 0.99

01:57:54.000 But before that, he was in Thailand. 1.00

01:57:55.000 That was a month ago.

01:57:56.000 He could be somewhere else. 1.00

01:57:57.000 He's a fucking animal. 1.00

01:57:58.000 He's crazy. 1.00

01:57:59.000 His phone's still off the hook. 0.96

01:58:00.000 He was supposed to be back a month ago.

01:58:03.000 Then nobody knows where he is.

01:58:04.000 He's not coming back till May.

01:58:05.000 May?

01:58:06.000 May is when the show shoots.

01:58:08.000 Is that what he said?

01:58:09.000 He's not coming back till May?

01:58:10.000 I don't think we'll see him till next month or even hear from him till next month. 0.63

01:58:15.000 What a weirdo.

01:58:17.000 Could you do that? 0.98

01:58:18.000 Could you vanish for months and just not talk to anybody?

01:58:21.000 No, not at this point.

01:58:21.000 He's not talking to any of his best friends.

01:58:23.000 I mean, we're his best friends.

01:58:24.000 He's not talking to us.

01:58:25.000 He's not talking to anybody.

01:58:26.000 Maybe he's talking to like one dude.

01:58:28.000 Maybe he's got a confidant.

01:58:30.000 One dude that he calls up, hey man, I'm only calling you.

01:58:34.000 You see Gabriel Glacius?

01:58:35.000 Him too.

01:58:36.000 What?

01:58:36.000 What's he doing?

01:58:37.000 Canceled this tour.

01:58:38.000 What?

01:58:39.000 Why?

01:58:41.000 Canceled this tour.

01:58:42.000 But why did he cancel this tour?

01:58:43.000 20 years.

01:58:44.000 I looked at a headshot of myself.

01:58:46.000 Ten years passed by.

01:58:48.000 Done.

01:58:48.000 That's what he said?

01:58:49.000 So I'm at the Indianapolis airport.

01:58:51.000 His manager looked at me and said, talk sense into him, please.

01:58:54.000 Well, what did he say?

01:58:55.000 What's his thought process?

01:58:57.000 Is he just working too much?

01:58:57.000 He worked.

01:58:58.000 He joined boxing class.

01:59:01.000 He joined salsa classes.

01:59:03.000 Really?

01:59:04.000 Just wants to live.

01:59:05.000 Just wants to live.

01:59:06.000 He bought that new Mustang Joe. 1.00

01:59:08.000 That's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:59:09.000 Which one? 1.00

01:59:10.000 Which one did he get?

01:59:10.000 The only one that they made 77 of them.

01:59:12.000 Oh, the Shelby GT350? Is that what it is?

01:59:14.000 How many horsepower?

01:59:16.000 I don't know.

01:59:16.000 It's pretty high.

01:59:17.000 It's just too much.

01:59:18.000 It's amazing. 1.00

01:59:18.000 Shit that you don't really need. 1.00

01:59:19.000 They only made 77 of them, so he's going to go and ride his fucking cars. 1.00

01:59:25.000 He's got a shitload of money, Gabriel. 0.99

01:59:28.000 And he's got a shitload of cars, so he wants to do something with Jay.

01:59:31.000 And they're going to drive cars and wave at people and throw a lot of bills out the window.

01:59:38.000 You know, I've been thinking about this myself, man, because my UFC contract is going to be up again.

01:59:43.000 I do it one year at a time now.

01:59:45.000 I used to sign these long-ass contracts for like five years, but now I'm like, I'm not doing that anymore.

01:59:50.000 I'm going year by year, and I have to decide soon because my contract's up again in August.

01:59:56.000 I don't know what I'm going to do, but I do too many things.

01:59:58.000 I do too much.

01:59:58.000 I work too much, you know?

02:00:01.000 And the family really wears on you.

02:00:03.000 And we were talking about date night, how now on Fridays I got the bill of laden sent at me.

02:00:08.000 Once they give you the bill of laden, that means it's over.

02:00:10.000 That's the act of, we had the act of 2017 at the Diaz household.

02:00:17.000 Friday night is wives, dog. 0.99

02:00:18.000 I don't give a fuck about your stand-up night. 0.99

02:00:20.000 I gotta get out of here. 1.00

02:00:21.000 I got a four-year-old that drives me crazy.

02:00:23.000 So Friday night's date night?

02:00:24.000 That's it.

02:00:24.000 Official.

02:00:25.000 You know what, man?

02:00:26.000 You and I have been talking about this, too.

02:00:27.000 That in town, it's maybe sometimes even best to not go out on the weekends and work.

02:00:33.000 Because even though it's good to work, and it's good to get your stand-up in, on the weekends, everybody's there to see the big show, right?

02:00:38.000 But for us, especially now, for me, it's only a couple months since my special came out.

02:00:43.000 And for you, it's just a month and a half, right?

02:00:45.000 When did your special come out?

02:00:46.000 Three months ago, December 8th.

02:00:48.000 Yeah, so for me, it's three months, too. 0.97

02:00:50.000 So when that happens, or four months, when that happens, your shit comes out, and then you're in this scramble mode where you're trying to create. 0.92

02:00:58.000 And what I like, what you're doing is you're going to these hole-in-the-walls, go to these weird places. 0.98

02:01:03.000 Show up and work your material out in these joints. 0.98

02:01:06.000 You go to the comedy store on a Friday night, there's 400 fucking people. 0.98

02:01:10.000 It's packed to the gills, and everybody's doing their best 15 minutes over and over and over again. 0.94

02:01:14.000 And one of the things that I noticed when I went there recently is a lot of these guys that aren't doing specials.

02:01:19.000 You know, there's a lot of young guys coming up in particular that they don't have any specials.

02:01:24.000 They're not releasing any material. 0.97

02:01:26.000 So they're doing the same material every time I see them for fucking years now. 0.96

02:01:30.000 For two years when I've been coming there, there's certain comedians that have been doing the same act every time I work with them. 0.96

02:01:36.000 So what they're doing is they're tightening up this hard 15 minutes and they're doing it all the time.

02:01:42.000 You know how to do that 15 minutes.

02:01:44.000 I don't think that's helping you.

02:01:46.000 In a lot of ways, it's not helping me either.

02:01:48.000 What really helps is you do long sets on the road.

02:01:51.000 If you go somewhere and you're doing an hour, and you're doing two shows on a Friday, two shows on a Saturday, that's what helps.

02:01:57.000 That's where it's at.

02:02:00.000 I got the podcast because...

02:02:04.000 Just the way my office building is, I can't go in there in the daytime and smoke a pound of pot and play loud music.

02:02:11.000 I just can't do it, and I don't want to do it, so I prefer to do it at night when I don't have a gun to my head. 0.98

02:02:17.000 If I come here at 1 o'clock, Joe, and we have to sit here until 4, from 3 to 4, I'm going to be fidgety or out of control because I'm thinking about that fucking traffic.

02:02:25.000 I want you to do the podcast. 0.91

02:02:26.000 I don't want you to think of nothing.

02:02:27.000 I don't want you to think of nothing, bro.

02:02:29.000 Right.

02:02:29.000 If you've got a spot, don't do my podcast.

02:02:31.000 Because we might go on a tangent that's brilliant, and you've got to leave for a stupid fucking spot. 1.00

02:02:35.000 No, don't do it. 1.00

02:02:36.000 I do that Monday, and then I try to do comedy two, three times a week, but now I'm doubling up.

02:02:41.000 Do you have a guest this Wednesday?

02:02:45.000 For your podcast?

02:02:46.000 Yeah, why?

02:02:46.000 Because I was supposed to do it.

02:02:48.000 I'm supposed to do it one of these times.

02:02:50.000 We'll figure it out.

02:02:51.000 Tell me when, so I can cancel whatever comedy I got going on.

02:02:54.000 What days are you doing it?

02:02:56.000 Mondays and Wednesdays.

02:02:57.000 Who you got tonight?

02:02:58.000 No, I'm not doing it tonight.

02:02:59.000 How come?

02:03:00.000 Because I did it last night.

02:03:01.000 Oh.

02:03:02.000 I did two yesterday.

02:03:03.000 Oh, nice, nice.

02:03:04.000 I did the undercover cop finally.

02:03:06.000 Oh, how was that? 1.00

02:03:07.000 Joe, fucking, to be close to a killer for 18 months who sprays cyanide in your face? 1.00

02:03:14.000 That's what he was doing? 1.00

02:03:15.000 He was chasing this guy?

02:03:16.000 It was the Iceman, right?

02:03:17.000 Yeah, he was chasing the Iceman.

02:03:18.000 So he had to meet him, and the Iceman, the only reason why the Iceman contacted him was because he heard he could get different guns, and he was ATF. So when the Iceman contacted him, he wanted Sinai.

02:03:30.000 So he kept saying, bring me to Sinai, and then he was going to sell him arms.

02:03:34.000 So for 18 months, this guy had contact with this guy.

02:03:37.000 I had to meet him in a diner.

02:03:39.000 He said he would hold his gun pointed right at him.

02:03:42.000 When he would meet with him.

02:03:43.000 Under the table?

02:03:44.000 Under the table.

02:03:45.000 But you also had to sit outside.

02:03:47.000 He always told him to sit outside because he didn't want to be downwind of the cyanide.

02:03:53.000 Just in case, because he would just spray it in your face.

02:03:56.000 You're done.

02:03:57.000 So he was always worrying that this guy was going to ice him.

02:04:00.000 Ice him literally.

02:04:01.000 Ice him literally.

02:04:02.000 Wow. 1.00

02:04:03.000 And then he would kill you. 0.99

02:04:04.000 You know, they call him the Ice Man, for people who don't know. 1.00

02:04:06.000 He would kill somebody and then throw him in a fucking freezer in his basement for like seven, eight months. 0.99

02:04:12.000 So they'd disappear. 1.00

02:04:13.000 And then he'd put him in his fucking basement and then he would toss the body somewhere. 0.99

02:04:17.000 So it would confuse the fuck out of people. 1.00

02:04:19.000 They didn't know when the guy died because he would thaw out.

02:04:21.000 And then they'd be like, why does this guy have frostbite on him? 0.98

02:04:23.000 What the fuck is going on? 0.99

02:04:24.000 This guy's intestines are fresh. 1.00

02:04:26.000 Yeah.

02:04:26.000 Like his intestines were still fresh.

02:04:28.000 Meanwhile, the guy had disappeared six months ago.

02:04:31.000 So they called him the Iceman. 1.00

02:04:32.000 He kept these fucking people in his basement. 1.00

02:04:35.000 Do you know how cold-blooded you have to be to... 1.00

02:04:38.000 You're going to sleep in your basement.

02:04:40.000 Did he do it in his basement or did he have a warehouse?

02:04:43.000 He had a warehouse in North Bergen, New Jersey, where I'm from, right on Newkirk. 0.99

02:04:47.000 I got my dick sucked out there one time by Gabby. 1.00

02:04:50.000 Right out there, I saw Gabby driving on Kelly Boulevard and I just stopped her. 1.00

02:04:54.000 And she goes, what do you need, a ride? 1.00

02:04:56.000 I go, no, Gabby, can you suck my dick? 1.00

02:04:57.000 She goes, get in. 1.00

02:05:00.000 What a good kid!

02:05:02.000 And then he killed...

02:05:04.000 There he is.

02:05:05.000 Richard Kuklinski, right?

02:05:06.000 He had killed...

02:05:07.000 I lived on Givenad Terrace and on Charles Court there was a guy named Mr. Softy.

02:05:14.000 He had an ice cream truck.

02:05:15.000 And that was his partner until he killed him too. 1.00

02:05:18.000 He killed all his fucking partners. 1.00

02:05:20.000 He killed a lot of fucking people. 1.00

02:05:22.000 And he killed a lot of people for the Gambino family, right? 1.00

02:05:25.000 Wasn't that who he worked for? 1.00

02:05:26.000 But he was doing shit that just wasn't. 0.99

02:05:30.000 Like they asked him one time, he bought a bow and arrow. 0.99

02:05:34.000 He bought a bow and arrow, one of the ones that you have like a gun.

02:05:36.000 Oh, crossbow?

02:05:37.000 And the guy says, how do you know it's going to work?

02:05:38.000 He goes, let's go for a ride.

02:05:40.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:05:40.000 And there was a guy at a light with a motorcycle helmet.

02:05:42.000 He shot him right in the helmet and just took off.

02:05:45.000 Guess it works.

02:05:46.000 He was one of those dudes that just...

02:05:48.000 Didn't care.

02:05:49.000 And that's what this guy was saying yesterday.

02:05:50.000 He goes, you really don't know that this...

02:05:53.000 He goes, one day my kid, it was Halloween and he had the horns on at the house.

02:05:58.000 And I had to tell the kid to take them off because in reality, I was sitting across from this guy every day.

02:06:04.000 This guy would talk about murder like the way you talk about lifting weights. 0.98

02:06:08.000 Like, I shot him in the throat, and he didn't really die, so I look at him, you know, just shit that's not, you know, like just... 0.97

02:06:14.000 You gave me that book, Murder Machine. 0.99

02:06:16.000 Right.

02:06:17.000 You remember that book?

02:06:17.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Roy DeMayo.

02:06:19.000 Oh! 0.98

02:06:19.000 Jesus Christ, that's a fucking scary book and it details this guy was a Mob boss was it in the 70s? 0.98

02:06:27.000 Yeah in the 70s and this It details how he slowly started killing a bunch of people Like slowly but surely and then they would cut him up in their fucking bathtub And then they had this one apartment where they would take these people to that was above this bar that they would go to. 0.99

02:06:45.000 They'd take these people upstairs and fucking kill them. 0.95

02:06:47.000 And they killed so many people. 1.00

02:06:49.000 But you know, they were animals because it wasn't even for business anymore.

02:06:54.000 No, no.

02:06:54.000 They didn't do it.

02:06:55.000 It was like, he disrespected me.

02:06:57.000 Like, he disrespected me. 0.93

02:06:59.000 He called my sister fat.

02:07:00.000 Really? 0.71

02:07:01.000 You gotta walk them upstairs. 0.97

02:07:02.000 They'd shoot them and stuff. 1.00

02:07:04.000 Then they'd hang them and they'd cook. 1.00

02:07:06.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:07:06.000 And they'd wait for the body to drain. 0.99

02:07:09.000 Yeah, they would cut the neck and hang them so that the blood would all drain out of it.

02:07:12.000 And then you'd go in and chop them up and put them around. 1.00

02:07:15.000 Who does this shit? 1.00

02:07:16.000 How do you fucking sleep at night? 1.00

02:07:18.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

02:07:19.000 I could see somebody calls you a motherfucker and you shoot them. 1.00

02:07:21.000 Shit happens. 1.00

02:07:22.000 You know, somebody owes you $10,000. 1.00

02:07:24.000 Somebody hits your sister with a car. 1.00

02:07:26.000 But they were just doing shit to prove that they were animals. 1.00

02:07:30.000 That's animal shit. 1.00

02:07:31.000 Well, I think what happens is you get used to doing it. 1.00

02:07:34.000 Just like we were talking about fighting, and the more you fight, the more you get comfortable with it.

02:07:38.000 I think there's something that happens to people when they kill people.

02:07:41.000 They get real comfortable with it.

02:07:42.000 And the more comfortable they get with it, the easier it is.

02:07:45.000 And then they start getting a rush out of doing it.

02:07:46.000 And there's also this power to know that there's this guy walking around, and his wife thinks he's coming home, and you're like, you know what?

02:07:52.000 You're not coming home.

02:07:54.000 I'm gonna just stop this right now.

02:07:57.000 It's almost like they get a thrill out of playing God in a lot of ways.

02:08:03.000 Before I spoke to him, he told me to read a different book.

02:08:08.000 I had read a different book on the Iceman.

02:08:11.000 And he told me to read a different book.

02:08:12.000 And again, this was our conversation earlier.

02:08:14.000 What book did you read?

02:08:16.000 It was a different author.

02:08:18.000 This one was by Anthony Bruno called The Iceman.

02:08:21.000 The one I had read before was by a different author, something Carlo.

02:08:25.000 And they said he had caught the Iceman later when he had become more exaggerated.

02:08:30.000 I killed Kennedy. 0.95

02:08:32.000 Because towards the end, he killed everybody. 0.98

02:08:33.000 He was there when they killed Costolano. 1.00

02:08:35.000 He found out that he was getting people's dick hard. 0.99

02:08:39.000 So this guy wrote the early one. 0.99

02:08:40.000 It's really weird. 0.97

02:08:41.000 You know, his dad just beat the shit out of him. 0.99

02:08:43.000 Beat the shit out of him. 1.00

02:08:45.000 The Jersey City. 1.00

02:08:46.000 Yeah, just made him a monster.

02:08:47.000 You know, there's no difference between Jersey City and Newark. 0.94

02:08:51.000 It's the same animals.

02:08:53.000 He said that there was a kid that would always call him Polack.

02:08:55.000 He had to wear the same clothes to school every day.

02:08:58.000 He had no money, you know.

02:09:01.000 And the kid, he described his first murder.

02:09:03.000 You know, how he got a stick and waited for the kid to come home.

02:09:07.000 He was 14. You know, when you kill somebody at 14, I thought he killed a guy at a bar.

02:09:14.000 I thought he killed a guy and strangled him.

02:09:16.000 Remember, he lit the one guy on fire.

02:09:19.000 Once, but the first guy he got was his young guy, and he wouldn't give his name.

02:09:23.000 He beat him up with the 2x4, and he went upstairs, and the next morning the cops were outside.

02:09:28.000 He thought he just threw a beating on him.

02:09:30.000 He didn't know he killed him.

02:09:32.000 So he was scared.

02:09:33.000 He kept puking.

02:09:34.000 He kept going to school and thinking that people would know.

02:09:37.000 And after that, that's it.

02:09:38.000 Once you get away with it, it's like a taste.

02:09:41.000 It's a taste in your mouth.

02:09:43.000 And then he had an argument with a guy over a pool. 1.00

02:09:47.000 And he beat him in the head with the pool cue 30 fucking times. 0.99

02:09:50.000 And then he got into another beef where he shot the guy outside, but he lit the car on fire with the body in it. 0.99

02:09:57.000 You know, the reason why there's so many unexplained deaths was because his first couple of years, he was going out at night.

02:10:04.000 You know, there was a time when I had four drinks and I'd go rob something.

02:10:09.000 Can you believe that?

02:10:10.000 Just the drinks would get you?

02:10:11.000 You'd feel loose? 0.99

02:10:12.000 I was great until I had four drinks and then I'd be walking home and I'd see a store and I'd kick the door open for some fucking reason. 1.00

02:10:19.000 He would go out and kill people at night. 0.99

02:10:22.000 Go somewhere and let's say you just insulted him for the weirdest thing. 0.88

02:10:26.000 Like, hey, get out of the way. 1.00

02:10:28.000 He would wait for you outside and shoot you.

02:10:29.000 So that's how he developed his things, you know?

02:10:32.000 Is that episode available now?

02:10:33.000 Which one?

02:10:34.000 The one with this cop?

02:10:35.000 No, I didn't put it up yet.

02:10:36.000 When is that one going up?

02:10:37.000 Probably this week.

02:10:38.000 I'm going to do a wraparound around it because it was a phone call.

02:10:42.000 Right.

02:10:42.000 So I just taped the phone call.

02:10:44.000 It was Sunday.

02:10:45.000 And I'm going to do a wraparound, compare it to the book.

02:10:47.000 He's a great guy.

02:10:48.000 I really...

02:10:49.000 Had a great guy.

02:10:50.000 I mean, I got to talk to him every day.

02:10:52.000 He's like 70. But he's Essex County.

02:10:54.000 Went to the University of Nebraska.

02:10:56.000 Was a Golden Globes champion.

02:10:58.000 Went back, became a state cop.

02:11:00.000 Then he became ATF. Just a fucking great story, man. 1.00

02:11:03.000 There was two guys that were talking about your podcast. 0.99

02:11:05.000 It was fucking hilarious. 0.91

02:11:06.000 They were talking about Lee. 0.97

02:11:08.000 And they were like, what Joey has done to that poor guy?

02:11:11.000 He's like, every time he sees him, he's forcing him to eat mushrooms, he's got to take acid, he's giving him pot, he's giving him edibles, he's lying to him about the dosages.

02:11:22.000 Lee loves it.

02:11:23.000 Let me tell you, he loves it.

02:11:25.000 He does, he's great.

02:11:26.000 We just did the liquid acid with the ice cube, with the sugar cube.

02:11:30.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

02:11:30.000 About two weeks ago, we did it two nights in a row.

02:11:33.000 It was hilarious.

02:11:34.000 On the show you did it?

02:11:34.000 Yeah, and then he called me the next day.

02:11:36.000 He's like, that was fun!

02:11:37.000 No, He goes, I went to CBS at four in the morning.

02:11:41.000 He wasn't like that before he met you, though.

02:11:42.000 No, but he's having a great time. 0.94

02:11:44.000 You turned that kid into a freak.

02:11:45.000 He's not a freak, man. 0.99

02:11:47.000 I turned him into a functioning savage.

02:11:52.000 But I love him with all my heart because he makes me laugh so much, Joe.

02:11:58.000 You know, I'm 54. It's 28. He's half my age.

02:12:02.000 You know, I see life from his perspective, you know, and I'm like, Jesus Christ.

02:12:06.000 Well, you guys get along together great.

02:12:07.000 It's like a great dynamic, the two of you together.

02:12:10.000 It works really well.

02:12:11.000 Oh, I love it.

02:12:12.000 I don't see him too much during the week.

02:12:14.000 So I keep the relationship fresh.

02:12:16.000 We talk all the time.

02:12:17.000 I torment them all the time.

02:12:19.000 The other day I called him. 1.00

02:12:20.000 I go, what the fuck is wrong with you? 0.99

02:12:21.000 He goes, what are you talking about? 1.00

02:12:21.000 I just got a letter from the state. 1.00

02:12:24.000 Why is your fucking phone tapped? 0.99

02:12:27.000 I tormented him for 20 minutes about his phone. 1.00

02:12:29.000 Why would my phone be tapped?

02:12:31.000 I go, do you work for the CIA? Is that what the fuck it is? 1.00

02:12:34.000 They made you come over and take my acid so you can report back to them? 1.00

02:12:37.000 No! 1.00

02:12:38.000 What the fuck is wrong with you? 1.00

02:12:39.000 I don't work for the CIA! I said, don't worry about it. 1.00

02:12:46.000 It must have been a mistake.

02:12:48.000 When the guy got me the liquid acid, I called him and I said, listen, I got liquid acid.

02:12:56.000 And you can hear him getting anxiety on the phone.

02:12:59.000 He goes, oh no.

02:13:01.000 You can hear a little bit.

02:13:03.000 And then he goes, how are we going to do it?

02:13:04.000 I said, so we're going to get sugar cubes and put the acid on it. 0.84

02:13:07.000 But I called him back like a day later.

02:13:09.000 I didn't have no acid and I had no sugar cubes.

02:13:12.000 I just made it up.

02:13:13.000 I go, listen, I just put the acid in the sugar cubes, and I put them in the Tupperware, and I put a lid on it, and I left, and when I came back, the lid had blown up. 0.87

02:13:21.000 So whatever's in that acid is going to be really fucking strong. 0.74

02:13:24.000 I go, I put aluminum foil over it with holes so it could breathe, so the acid won't fucking go into... 0.97

02:13:30.000 Oh my God, I had him going for three weeks. 0.57

02:13:32.000 I go to Cleveland, guess what?

02:13:34.000 Some guy comes up to me, gives me a tube of acid. 1.00

02:13:36.000 I says, this is the pharmaceutical grade shit. 1.00

02:13:38.000 This will kill Gaddafi the whole fucking thing. 1.00

02:13:42.000 I go home, we put two drops on each ice cube, on each sugar cube. 1.00

02:13:48.000 Oh my fucking God. 0.99

02:13:50.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:13:51.000 But see, again, that's why I quit everything, because my tolerance is too high.

02:13:55.000 Back in the day, I could do two drops.

02:13:56.000 I'd be high for 12 hours seeing things, unicorns.

02:13:59.000 I've seen something for like two hours.

02:14:01.000 But who knows how strong it really was, too.

02:14:04.000 And you're getting it from Cleveland.

02:14:05.000 You've got to get it from, like, Northern California.

02:14:07.000 Oh, no, no.

02:14:08.000 But then I lost a tent sheet from a guy in England.

02:14:11.000 A guy in England gave me some stuff, Pink Floyd acid.

02:14:14.000 It's the same one that Sid Barrett took when he quit Pink Floyd.

02:14:17.000 So I took that, I saved that.

02:14:20.000 So now I'm going to get the liquid acid, I'm going to put it on the blotter from Pink Floyd and we're going to go deep.

02:14:24.000 I'm just saving that one for a good guest.

02:14:28.000 I like it.

02:14:29.000 I like it.

02:14:30.000 Let's wrap this up.

02:14:33.000 So, Alberto, how can people get a hold of you?

02:14:35.000 It's Alberto Galazzi on Twitter and on Instagram.

02:14:39.000 Instagram and Facebook.

02:14:40.000 Two L's, right?

02:14:40.000 Yeah, Galazzi two L's.

02:14:41.000 Two L's. 0.62

02:14:42.000 And Joey, obviously, Mad Flavor on Twitter and Mad Flavor's world is like someone's running that for you, right?

02:14:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:14:50.000 Lee does all that stuff.

02:14:51.000 Lee does that?

02:14:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:14:52.000 I thought it was a one-by-one podcast guy who does that.

02:14:54.000 He does the Instagram.

02:14:56.000 Oh, okay.

02:14:56.000 Beautiful.

02:14:56.000 The Instagram.

02:14:57.000 Okay.

02:14:57.000 Lee does all the Twitter stuff.

02:14:58.000 I'm in Baltimore next week with my main man, John Rolito.

02:15:00.000 Oh, John Rolito.

02:15:02.000 Where you at?

02:15:02.000 Where you going?

02:15:03.000 I'm at Magooby's.

02:15:04.000 Just three nights.

02:15:05.000 Me and Tom Segura.

02:15:06.000 Tom Segura does the following week.

02:15:08.000 Oh, beautiful.

02:15:09.000 Beautiful.

02:15:09.000 So, yeah, we're going to have a good time there.

02:15:12.000 Awesome.

02:15:12.000 And the podcast is The Church of What's Happening Now.

02:15:15.000 It's available on iTunes. 0.99

02:15:16.000 It's a fucking great podcast. 0.98

02:15:16.000 And he's doing seminars everywhere. 0.98

02:15:18.000 And he's doing On It in Austin.

02:15:20.000 Oh, beautiful.

02:15:20.000 When are you doing the On It seminar in Austin?

02:15:22.000 Austin will be in the middle of March.

02:15:25.000 Middle of March.

02:15:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:15:27.000 Which is this month.

02:15:28.000 So what's your schedule?

02:15:29.000 Where can somebody go find it?

02:15:31.000 What's the website?

02:15:32.000 They can go to Tag Fit Academy or Tag Fit Europe.

02:15:35.000 So they can always find me.

02:15:37.000 Okay, so they just Google your name.

02:15:38.000 Yeah, Google my name.

02:15:40.000 He's got tons of stuff on YouTube, man.

02:15:42.000 Beautiful.

02:15:43.000 Thank you.

02:15:43.000 Appreciate it, man.

02:15:44.000 Really fun talking to you, brother.

02:15:46.000 Joey! 0.90

02:15:47.000 See you guys tomorrow.

02:15:48.000 Bye.

02:15:48.000 Love you, too.

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 06, 2017

Joe Rogan Experience #926 - Joey Diaz & Alberto Gallazzi

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