The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #982 - Honey Honey

00:00:00.000 Rosé, because then we won't get shit-faced. 1.00

00:00:02.000 No, I told Joe, and also it occurred to me, Joe probably has all this other shit. 0.99

00:00:07.000 He's not gonna have rosé. 0.98

00:00:08.000 So we should show up with rosé?

00:00:09.000 I definitely wouldn't have rosé.

00:00:10.000 We're live.

00:00:11.000 Rosé is not my thing, but I'm not an anti-rosé person. 0.99

00:00:15.000 I'll drink a fucking peanut colada after the moment presents itself. 0.95

00:00:17.000 How did it go in there? 1.00

00:00:18.000 You just enjoyed it, right?

00:00:19.000 Yeah, it was good.

00:00:20.000 I like your rosé.

00:00:21.000 It's lovely.

00:00:22.000 It's a good summertime beverage.

00:00:22.000 Would everybody like some Jack Daniels?

00:00:24.000 It's single malt.

00:00:24.000 Hold on, let me chug this rosé first.

00:00:27.000 What does that even mean?

00:00:29.000 It's just in one of those barrels.

00:00:30.000 Oh, one barrel.

00:00:31.000 One barrel.

00:00:31.000 One barrel at a time.

00:00:33.000 You move it around a bunch of barrels? 1.00

00:00:34.000 Double barrel, yeah, you re-barrel that shit. 1.00

00:00:35.000 Like a fucking shotgun? 1.00

00:00:37.000 Oh my god. 1.00

00:00:38.000 I've listened to the Jimi Hendrix Live Machine Gun, you know that song? 0.99

00:00:44.000 God damn, that's one of those songs where sometimes you hear it and you just go, oh wow, like I've maybe been missing out on how good this fucking song is. 1.00

00:00:55.000 Yeah, he's conjuring shit up. 1.00

00:01:01.000 It's just so good. 0.99

00:01:03.000 Is it off that Band of Gypsies record?

00:01:04.000 Exactly.

00:01:05.000 Yeah, it's all live. 0.99

00:01:06.000 I almost just stopped myself from saying fuck and then I realized where we were. 0.99

00:01:09.000 Wow, that's so sweet. 0.99

00:01:12.000 Have we ever fucked that one up on the real radio? 0.73

00:01:15.000 On the censored radio?

00:01:18.000 I don't know.

00:01:18.000 But there's this song called The Power of Love.

00:01:21.000 Sorry, I just want to keep talking about Jimi Hendrix. 0.97

00:01:23.000 It's the fourth track that's fucking insane. 0.86

00:01:26.000 I mean, all this stuff's insane, but there's this tone that he hits that just like carves a piece out of your soul. 0.95

00:01:34.000 When I used to work with Phil Hartman, he told me a story about when he was at the Whiskey.

00:01:40.000 And I think he was a teenager still.

00:01:41.000 I think Phil was like 18 or 19 or something.

00:01:44.000 And he was working as like a stagehand.

00:01:47.000 His job was to hold up the speaker while Jimi Hendrix was on stage because the stage was so small and the speaker was kind of rocking so he had to stand there Stand there and hold up the speaker.

00:01:58.000 He said Jimi Hendrix was five feet in front of me.

00:02:01.000 He said it was fucking incredible When Hendrix was just sort of becoming Hendrix So early. 0.67

00:02:10.000 I don't know. 0.69

00:02:12.000 We could go back over when he died and when, you know, he would have been like 18 or 19, but I don't remember the exact age.

00:02:18.000 He died in the 70s.

00:02:18.000 He died in 1970. Okay.

00:02:20.000 Really?

00:02:20.000 Yeah, pretty sure.

00:02:21.000 Damn, look at you, Encyclopedia Ben. 0.99

00:02:23.000 I loved her. 0.99

00:02:24.000 Ben Tannica?

00:02:25.000 Hartman died in like, I think, 98. So, whatever that was, those 20 years before that.

00:02:32.000 So it would have been like in the early 70s, I guess.

00:02:35.000 Yeah.

00:02:35.000 That doesn't make sense, actually.

00:02:36.000 I wish we could go back in time and experience music like in the 60s and 70s when it was just like everything was new.

00:02:43.000 You'd never heard anything like that before.

00:02:46.000 Yeah, right?

00:02:46.000 That was the first time they got real drugs.

00:02:49.000 Wait, what were the demonic chords, Ben?

00:02:52.000 We were talking about this the other day.

00:02:53.000 That was a long time ago.

00:02:54.000 Is this like Renaissance time?

00:02:56.000 That was like the 1600s.

00:02:57.000 There was chords they thought to be demonic?

00:02:59.000 Yeah, they were evil. 1.00

00:03:00.000 If they heard the shit we played today, it would be like, you'd be burned at the stake. 1.00

00:03:04.000 Well, I think it would be mind-blowing. 1.00

00:03:08.000 Oh yeah, fuck that. 1.00

00:03:09.000 He would have been toast! 1.00

00:03:10.000 Well, just the beginning of Voodoo Child. 0.95

00:03:12.000 Right.

00:03:13.000 You know?

00:03:14.000 You hear that?

00:03:14.000 I never get sick of that.

00:03:16.000 So good.

00:03:17.000 Well, you really stop and think about it.

00:03:18.000 There was a clear evolution, right? 1.00

00:03:20.000 There was a bunch of shit going on. 0.98

00:03:22.000 There was Chuck Berry, and there was Little Richard, and then there was Elvis, and there was all these rock and roll guys, and then... 0.99

00:03:29.000 All of a sudden, there's this eruption out of that, and it's Led Zeppelin, and it's The Who, and it's Hendrix, and it's people that were just on a completely different level.

00:03:40.000 Queen?

00:03:41.000 Queen in their prime?

00:03:42.000 But it's interesting.

00:03:45.000 Zeppelin was all blues music. 1.00

00:03:47.000 They kind of stole a lot of shit. 1.00

00:03:49.000 They stole a lot of shit. 1.00

00:03:50.000 That's fucked up, isn't it? 1.00

00:03:53.000 It's fucked up that they are dicks about him. 0.99

00:03:56.000 But it's not out of the ordinary, because all those dudes are just playing each other's songs anyway. 0.99

00:04:00.000 That is a giant problem.

00:04:02.000 If you're the guy who created the opening riff to Stairway to Heaven, it's about your song, and then you try to do it.

00:04:07.000 Well, the other side of that spectrum is really fucked up, though, too, because now you're in this game where, like, if you play anything remotely sounds like that, you'll get sued.

00:04:16.000 Right. 0.84

00:04:17.000 And at this point, like...

00:04:19.000 I mean, I don't rip off songs from other people.

00:04:21.000 We don't do that.

00:04:22.000 But you could write a song and then not know that it had a similar thing, similar melody, and somebody could come after you. 0.99

00:04:31.000 And that fucking blows. 0.98

00:04:32.000 We were just talking about that Bittersweet Symphony song from The Verve, how they gave all their money to the Rolling Stones. 0.99

00:04:38.000 Yeah.

00:04:39.000 Because the opening riff was too similar, which is crazy.

00:04:42.000 It's a sample, isn't it?

00:04:43.000 It might be, isn't it?

00:04:44.000 Yeah, it's kind of Andrew Lou Oldham produced the Stones and did all these orchestrations for them, and they just...

00:04:49.000 Oh, they just sampled it.

00:04:50.000 Now, how does that work, though?

00:04:51.000 That seems kind of crazy that you give it all the money.

00:04:54.000 I don't mind you giving them money.

00:04:57.000 I'm sure they didn't give all of it.

00:04:58.000 I mean, they had publishing on their actual song, right?

00:05:00.000 Is that different?

00:05:01.000 I don't know the facts.

00:05:02.000 Is it different, like, as a musician?

00:05:04.000 Do you feel like that feels different if someone just uses, like, if someone heard Ice Ice Baby, they knew it was under pressure, right?

00:05:11.000 That's sick.

00:05:12.000 Right?

00:05:12.000 I mean, it's almost like it's not hurting the original song.

00:05:15.000 Well, it's almost like a collaboration at that point, because your song was inspired by another song, and obviously there's credit due for that, but it's just an interesting way that the pie gets cut up.

00:05:23.000 Right.

00:05:24.000 And the way people just tenaciously hold onto their piece in this way that...

00:05:29.000 I don't know, it really bums me out, to be honest.

00:05:31.000 I mean, obviously you need to get paid and make a living, but...

00:05:36.000 Inspirationally speaking it just the barometer is just so like people just go so far off The course in order to get credit and money for things that it's just bullshit But I think it's so difficult you were just talking about that in there It's so difficult to have a career that keeps paying you right if anybody has something that's close to To the sun.

00:05:57.000 You're just like, that's it. 0.96

00:05:58.000 Because that's the only way I'm going to be able to fucking afford this house. 0.97

00:06:01.000 The music business in particular, or I shouldn't say the music business, because I never really say the comedy business. 0.98

00:06:06.000 I would say the comedy world.

00:06:08.000 Because I think you guys are like the closest to big business in the way like your contracts are.

00:06:16.000 You always hear like these nightmare contracts.

00:06:18.000 You're like, Jesus.

00:06:20.000 Like for us...

00:06:21.000 We've never made money doing anything but performing.

00:06:24.000 So no one ever, like, got a grip of the other stuff.

00:06:27.000 Right.

00:06:28.000 Like, with musicians, you guys all made a lot of money selling actual albums back in the day.

00:06:33.000 Well, we don't, but...

00:06:33.000 But, I mean, musicians.

00:06:35.000 It could have...

00:06:35.000 Well, comedy artists, too, right?

00:06:37.000 But I guess they always went through record labels.

00:06:39.000 Yeah, but there was no money in it.

00:06:40.000 There was no...

00:06:41.000 I mean, I should say, like, a few guys made money.

00:06:43.000 Like, Dane Cook probably made a ton of money.

00:06:45.000 Right.

00:06:45.000 Because he had the biggest selling comedy album of all time.

00:06:49.000 His was, like...

00:06:50.000 Is at least platinum.

00:06:52.000 It might have went double platinum.

00:06:53.000 Do you get paid as an actor at that point?

00:06:56.000 Or is it like...

00:06:57.000 No, he must have had a deal with the record company unless he released it himself.

00:07:00.000 Some people can release their stuff themselves, but I don't know how that works.

00:07:03.000 Oh, this is audio.

00:07:03.000 You mean this isn't like a live DVD? Okay.

00:07:05.000 No, but as soon as it gets to be a live DVD, there's two options.

00:07:10.000 One is you could pay for it all yourself, pay for the filming, and then sell it to whatever organization, whether it's Netflix or what have you, or Comedy Central.

00:07:19.000 You could do it that way.

00:07:21.000 What is this?

00:07:21.000 Here we go.

00:07:22.000 Both of them went platinum.

00:07:24.000 The first two.

00:07:25.000 They both went platinum.

00:07:26.000 Wow.

00:07:26.000 See, that's huge sales.

00:07:30.000 $1,215,000 and $1,264,000 for the second one.

00:07:36.000 That's incredible.

00:07:37.000 Like, for a stand-up comedian to sell that many albums, it was a real phenomenon.

00:07:42.000 And people actually bought them.

00:07:43.000 You had to pay for that.

00:07:45.000 Oh, yeah.

00:07:45.000 That's funny.

00:07:46.000 I wonder what was number one.

00:07:49.000 I don't know.

00:07:50.000 It's a good question.

00:07:51.000 2003?

00:07:52.000 U.S. comedy number one and two.

00:07:55.000 Would that have been Dave Chappelle?

00:07:56.000 Look, he's right there, number one.

00:07:57.000 The second one.

00:07:59.000 Yeah, that's 2003. That's the highest it ever got was number two.

00:08:02.000 Oh! 0.60

00:08:03.000 So someone out-peaked old Dave chart positions.

00:08:06.000 Did Dave Chappelle do live audio?

00:08:09.000 He didn't have records.

00:08:10.000 So that was number one on the comedy charts or was number one period?

00:08:14.000 Oh, okay. 0.95

00:08:14.000 What the fuck would be number two if his was number one? 0.95

00:08:17.000 This one made it number four in the whole US chart overall. 0.99

00:08:20.000 Wow, that's crazy.

00:08:21.000 That's huge.

00:08:22.000 That's giant.

00:08:25.000 So that's it. 0.99

00:08:26.000 Like, I didn't make shit. 0.99

00:08:27.000 I mean, I made some money. 0.99

00:08:28.000 I had a record on Warner Brothers in 1999. Good year.

00:08:32.000 It was a good year.

00:08:33.000 Is it like a space monkey thing?

00:08:35.000 No, that was called I'm Gonna Be Dead Someday.

00:08:36.000 That was my first thing.

00:08:39.000 And then the next one was Shiny Happy Jihad. 0.91

00:08:46.000 And then Talking Monkeys in Space.

00:08:49.000 We need to get our collection for the road travels.

00:08:52.000 I'll hook you guys up. 1.00

00:08:53.000 Hook that shit up, man. 1.00

00:08:55.000 Get on the Spotify. 0.99

00:08:56.000 How many albums do you guys have now?

00:08:58.000 Trace albums.

00:08:59.000 Trace.

00:08:59.000 But we're releasing solo records this year, so it's been really interesting.

00:09:04.000 We're working together and separately.

00:09:06.000 It's crazy.

00:09:07.000 You guys keeping it together or you get weird with each other?

00:09:09.000 All the time.

00:09:10.000 All the time.

00:09:10.000 Both, yeah.

00:09:13.000 Both.

00:09:14.000 But that is the way it has always been and possibly always will be.

00:09:18.000 I feel like as long as everyone's kind, it's unavoidable and it's like part of the process of dealing with people.

00:09:25.000 People get on each other's nerves. 0.92

00:09:27.000 We definitely act like shitheads and then we have these moments of great communication. 0.97

00:09:33.000 Well, that's the end goal. 0.94

00:09:34.000 But I think I can say that our relationship has made my other relationships in my life so much better because you have to administer patience and listen and really just have, you know...

00:09:48.000 It's hard for people, right? 0.98

00:09:49.000 Yeah, well, you gotta learn how to be wrong, you know, and say you're sorry when you fuck up. 0.89

00:09:52.000 Like, I'm sorry. 0.96

00:09:53.000 I was wrong. 0.96

00:09:54.000 That was stupid of me. 0.99

00:09:55.000 I shouldn't have said that. 0.99

00:09:55.000 It's also there's a balancing act that some people never achieve of listening to someone and thinking about what they're saying and then responding because of that or just saying what's on your mind. 0.99

00:10:05.000 There's this balancing act.

00:10:06.000 Sometimes you just want to say what's on your mind.

00:10:08.000 Sometimes you have to absorb what this person is saying to you, and then you have to respect it and address it and try to figure out how, as a person that cares about them, what's the best way to get out what you're thinking.

00:10:21.000 Sometimes you don't do that.

00:10:22.000 And then you have to deal with emotions happening at the same goddamn time, which completely changed the way you could speak and move. 0.77

00:10:31.000 Something that... 0.98

00:10:32.000 Just cracked his open.

00:10:32.000 Yeah, I got a great therapist.

00:10:34.000 I love her so much.

00:10:35.000 And she, you know, accepting people is a huge deal. 0.90

00:10:39.000 And just saying, hey, you and I have very different truths.

00:10:43.000 Or like, you know, not you and I, but anyone.

00:10:46.000 And...

00:10:47.000 When you're arguing with somebody or you're in disagreement, what is true to them could be completely different to you. 1.00

00:10:53.000 But if you just fight that and keep fighting that, you're going to be so fucked. 0.98

00:10:59.000 And there's no peace involved in that scenario. 0.98

00:11:05.000 So just accepting your differences is half the battle. 0.99

00:11:08.000 How do we relay your message to the rest of the world and solve this fucking problem? 0.99

00:11:13.000 What's the problem? 0.99

00:11:14.000 The world's in conflict.

00:11:16.000 Learn how to say you're sorry.

00:11:17.000 Learn how to be wrong.

00:11:18.000 Gotta speak your language first. 0.99

00:11:20.000 And then listen to each other for crying out loud.

00:11:25.000 I think that's so important.

00:11:26.000 I feel like people want to be right. 1.00

00:11:29.000 Politics right now are just such a shit show. 0.99

00:11:32.000 And if I try to stay on board, I just get so exhausted because it's never ending. 1.00

00:11:38.000 There's no moment of peace.

00:11:43.000 It's like, okay, now I'm going to piss.

00:11:45.000 Now you're going to piss.

00:11:46.000 Now I'm going to piss. 0.88

00:11:47.000 And we're just going to keep pissing.

00:11:49.000 And it just doesn't...

00:11:52.000 I don't know.

00:11:53.000 I'm really annoyed with all of that.

00:11:55.000 I can't stand it. 1.00

00:11:56.000 Did you see what that shit poster guy, Baked Alaska, did? 1.00

00:12:00.000 He posted a tweet that somehow he was proud that the president was shitposting. 1.00

00:12:08.000 You know what the president did, what Trump did? 0.97

00:12:11.000 He took that meme of him, slamming the guy with a CNN head. 1.00

00:12:16.000 And this Baked Alaska guy who's like a famous shit poster. 1.00

00:12:20.000 Do you know what a shit poster is? 1.00

00:12:21.000 They say like ridiculous shit and they're memes and they fuck with people and they get people upset. 1.00

00:12:25.000 It's pretty funny stuff. 1.00

00:12:27.000 I'm so honored to live in a country where our president is shitposting on Twitter. 0.71

00:12:31.000 It really makes the world a better place. 0.94

00:12:33.000 It's hilarious.

00:12:34.000 Baked Alaska. 0.99

00:12:36.000 It's fucking funny, man. 0.96

00:12:38.000 He had the funniest meme about Alex Jones, and I didn't know it was his, and I posted it on my Instagram. 0.97

00:12:44.000 Somebody sent it to me.

00:12:45.000 I didn't know who it was, and I posted it, and then he got mad at me, and he said I was stealing jokes.

00:12:49.000 But if I had known it was his, I definitely would have given him credit.

00:12:51.000 But the meme is hilarious.

00:12:53.000 It's him in the hot tub.

00:12:54.000 What's the one with Alex Jones in a hot tub?

00:12:57.000 When everybody wants to chill, but you're so woke you can't help drop truth bombs?

00:13:01.000 It's Alex Jones in a hot tub with sunglasses on.

00:13:05.000 It's just such a perfect meme for Alex.

00:13:08.000 That's a real art form, the funny meme.

00:13:11.000 Yeah.

00:13:11.000 Oh, agreed.

00:13:11.000 It really is.

00:13:12.000 And it's not, they're getting fucked. 0.99

00:13:14.000 You want to talk about people getting fucked? 0.99

00:13:15.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:13:16.000 The creators of the funny memes.

00:13:17.000 The memists?

00:13:18.000 Yeah.

00:13:18.000 I feel like, there it is.

00:13:19.000 What was that?

00:13:20.000 People try to relax, but you're so woke, you just have to drop another truth bomb.

00:13:25.000 Look at him with his sunglasses on.

00:13:27.000 I love Alex.

00:13:28.000 Dude, he is red.

00:13:29.000 Oh yeah.

00:13:30.000 Well, that might be a filter.

00:13:32.000 Instagram uses a lot of filters to make you look unhealthy.

00:13:36.000 Isn't there a lot of shaming with the meme stuff though now?

00:13:39.000 It's like if you start stealing people's memes, you're a target.

00:13:43.000 Well, yeah, but the problem is a lot of people are still not aware.

00:13:47.000 There's a lot of people that have become famous because they have websites, and their pages get millions and millions and millions of followers, and all they're doing is stealing people's memes. 0.84

00:13:54.000 And some of them have been forced to credit people, and some of them just sort of like that fat Jewish guy. 0.99

00:13:59.000 He just sort of writes the person who created its name in the comic.

00:14:04.000 He got in big trouble, though.

00:14:05.000 He got in trouble.

00:14:05.000 Yeah, he got caught.

00:14:08.000 How do you recover from that?

00:14:09.000 You don't in my book, but it's the Wild West.

00:14:13.000 I mean, that's what it is.

00:14:15.000 It's like no one knew how...

00:14:17.000 I mean, if you send me something, it's really hilarious.

00:14:20.000 And then, like, Eddie Bravo just sent me one on Bill Cosby.

00:14:24.000 I don't think I could share it. 0.99

00:14:27.000 It's fucked up enough. 0.99

00:14:28.000 I could show it to you, but he sends it to me, and I'm like, I don't know who the fuck came up with it, you know? 1.00

00:14:34.000 It says, when you realize building a wall fucks your quaalude supply. 0.99

00:14:39.000 Oh my god. 0.98

00:14:41.000 Oh, that face.

00:14:42.000 I know who made that.

00:14:43.000 I was going to say, did Eddie make that?

00:14:45.000 He might have.

00:14:46.000 I don't know.

00:14:46.000 I have no idea.

00:14:47.000 Eddie does a lot of funny shit. 0.99

00:14:49.000 He might have made that himself. 1.00

00:14:50.000 But I don't know who made that.

00:14:52.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:52.000 So when something like that happens, he sends it to me.

00:14:55.000 I might send it to Jamie.

00:14:56.000 Jamie might send it to Brendan.

00:14:57.000 Well, when you make it, can you put your...

00:14:59.000 There it is.

00:14:59.000 Oh, no.

00:15:01.000 Oh, no.

00:15:02.000 Oh, no.

00:15:04.000 He might have...

00:15:04.000 I mean, Eddie might have made that.

00:15:05.000 That's going to haunt my dreams.

00:15:07.000 But...

00:15:08.000 The point is, like...

00:15:09.000 How dare you?

00:15:10.000 How does someone...

00:15:11.000 I mean, it's so easy to make one of those, but it's a really funny joke.

00:15:14.000 Like, how does someone, like, claim that?

00:15:16.000 Well, I was going to say, can you put your stamp...

00:15:17.000 Like, can you do, like, a watermark thing?

00:15:19.000 Your icon, I guess.

00:15:20.000 Or, like...

00:15:21.000 That seems annoying, though.

00:15:22.000 You'd have to do that.

00:15:23.000 It's super annoying. 0.99

00:15:23.000 All this shit is annoying. 0.99

00:15:23.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:15:24.000 But if you, Ben, had an Instagram page and you started putting up those memes, people would steal them. 0.97

00:15:31.000 But if you made your own, if you just decided, you know what, as an exercise, in between writing songs, I'm going to write some fucking joke memes. 0.81

00:15:38.000 Yeah, I'll meme it for a little bit. 0.95

00:15:39.000 Instagram.

00:15:40.000 Yeah.

00:15:40.000 I think I'd struggle with that.

00:15:45.000 That's a tough one.

00:15:46.000 It'd be an issue, right? 1.00

00:15:47.000 You'd be like, these motherfuckers. 0.99

00:15:48.000 But you're already co-opting other people's images anyway, and a lot of the time, phrases and stuff like that. 0.99

00:15:53.000 It's almost like collage.

00:15:54.000 Remember when you got in that little battle with Mark Maron?

00:15:57.000 You guys got in a battle?

00:15:58.000 I got in a Twitter fight with Mark Maron.

00:15:59.000 It was a little bit of a Twitter argument.

00:16:00.000 Mark Maron, by the way, will argue with his own mom on Twitter.

00:16:06.000 What happened?

00:16:07.000 He said something about...

00:16:08.000 He said...

00:16:09.000 I don't know why this pissed me off.

00:16:10.000 He said, memes are the cancer of our culture's imagination.

00:16:15.000 Oh, that's not true. 1.00

00:16:16.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:16:17.000 And I kind of sent him this tweet back that was like, yeah, you don't know. 1.00

00:16:22.000 Because I was also reading this other shit. 0.99

00:16:24.000 He had a great retort, though. 0.98

00:16:25.000 You said, I don't think you know exactly what it means.

00:16:27.000 Sorry.

00:16:28.000 I jumped in.

00:16:29.000 Do it.

00:16:30.000 Take it home.

00:16:30.000 What did you say?

00:16:31.000 No, he said...

00:16:32.000 I sent back kind of like a similarly bitchy thing because I was reading about memes in a different context.

00:16:37.000 And I was like, it's actually not what memes means all the time, Mark.

00:16:41.000 And he was like, I knew exactly what it means. 0.95

00:16:43.000 And I was like, fuck, that's really funny. 1.00

00:16:44.000 Damn. 1.00

00:16:45.000 But then he went on and kind of like drove it home. 1.00

00:16:47.000 He called me a poetry assassin.

00:16:48.000 Yeah. 0.90

00:16:50.000 I was narrow-minded, and I was like, dude, chill the fuck up. 0.99

00:16:54.000 How are you narrow-minded? 0.99

00:16:54.000 Because you don't agree with his assessment of memes? 0.99

00:16:56.000 Because I went back at him.

00:16:57.000 I don't know.

00:16:58.000 Wow, that means you're narrow-minded.

00:17:00.000 We had some friends jumping in and being like, hey, honey, honey, you're great.

00:17:03.000 That was a great moment, because Vernon Reed from his vehicle In Living Color chimed in and stood up.

00:17:08.000 He was my knight in shining light.

00:17:09.000 I think we as human beings have to resist.

00:17:13.000 Memes are the cancer cells and the cultural imagination.

00:17:15.000 Oh, God.

00:17:16.000 Oh, God.

00:17:16.000 And by the way, you know what I hate about it the most?

00:17:18.000 No capital letter, no period.

00:17:21.000 No!

00:17:22.000 You can't do that!

00:17:24.000 We were on tour when this was happening, and we were like, I don't know.

00:17:27.000 It's a cool man, but sorry, but you're wrong.

00:17:29.000 So I definitely can't claim any victory.

00:17:32.000 So I think we had to pull over.

00:17:33.000 We had to pull over so we could figure out what to do.

00:17:36.000 You might as well have a cigarette holder if you're writing that.

00:17:39.000 You should have a black turtleneck and a cigarette holder. 1.00

00:17:42.000 No, it's bullshit. 1.00

00:17:43.000 Ben, I'm proud of you. 0.99

00:17:46.000 You should be listening to jazz if you write that.

00:17:48.000 What's wrong with jazz?

00:17:49.000 Nothing.

00:17:50.000 Jazz is great.

00:17:51.000 But there's some people that listen to jazz just so people know they're listening to jazz. 1.00

00:17:54.000 Oh, that's fucked up. 0.99

00:17:55.000 You know that guy. 0.99

00:17:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:17:55.000 You know that guy. 0.99

00:17:56.000 Yeah.

00:17:57.000 That's that guy.

00:17:57.000 So, I just remembered there's this great...

00:17:59.000 You said Little Richard and Jimi Hendrix before?

00:18:01.000 Yeah.

00:18:02.000 Jimi Hendrix was in Little Richard's band.

00:18:04.000 Do you know that?

00:18:05.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:05.000 I forgot about that.

00:18:06.000 Before he was, you know, what he was.

00:18:08.000 Oh, I think I've read that. 0.94

00:18:08.000 And there's this great fucking interview with Little Richard talking about Jimi Hendrix. 0.94

00:18:13.000 Just high as a kite. 0.99

00:18:15.000 It's amazing.

00:18:17.000 And also, how about Jerry Lee Lewis? 0.99

00:18:20.000 Jerry Lee Lewis fucking killed how many wives? 1.00

00:18:23.000 Oh my God! 1.00

00:18:24.000 Didn't he kill a couple of them? 0.98

00:18:26.000 He said, he made my toe go up my boot. 0.96

00:18:28.000 What?

00:18:30.000 Heroin.

00:18:31.000 Everybody is a star.

00:18:33.000 The only problem is some people haven't been put in the dipper and pulled back on the world.

00:18:37.000 Whoa.

00:18:38.000 That's what the answer is.

00:18:40.000 Jesus, Little Richard's amazing.

00:18:41.000 That's what the answer is.

00:18:42.000 You got to be placed.

00:19:03.000 Back on the world.

00:19:04.000 At time he used to make my big toe shoot up in my boot.

00:19:09.000 He did it so good.

00:19:11.000 He gave it all to you.

00:19:13.000 And that's what you want.

00:19:14.000 You want it all or none?

00:19:16.000 Can I just pause this right here?

00:19:19.000 Literature is what every gay man should aspire to. 0.99

00:19:22.000 Just be so fucking fabulous that you are undeniable. 0.99

00:19:25.000 It's so good. 0.96

00:19:26.000 And Freddie Mercury, we were talking about him earlier. 0.98

00:19:28.000 Have you seen those mid-70s shit? 0.99

00:19:30.000 And it blows my mind. 1.00

00:19:31.000 I haven't seen anything.

00:19:31.000 Because the dude is in a...

00:19:32.000 He looks like Lord Farquaad, if that means anything to anybody. 0.99

00:19:36.000 But he's tall, and he's got this skin-tight white suit, and it's mid-70s, and he's gay, and his dick is just like, boom! 1.00

00:19:43.000 Like, you can just see his dick. 1.00

00:19:44.000 He doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

00:19:46.000 If you did that now, you'd be done. 1.00

00:19:47.000 You can't do that.

00:19:48.000 Yes, you can.

00:19:49.000 Who does that? 1.00

00:19:50.000 Who is up on stage with their dick hanging out? 0.99

00:19:53.000 Was it actually hanging out? 1.00

00:19:55.000 Literally, you're just like, oh, there's his dick. 1.00

00:19:56.000 No, you mean like outside of his pants, you're saying? 1.00

00:19:59.000 No.

00:19:59.000 Yeah.

00:20:00.000 Okay, dude, you're not doing a good job with this.

00:20:02.000 Clearly presented.

00:20:02.000 Here, let me clear this up.

00:20:04.000 It doesn't need to be outside.

00:20:05.000 It's a transparent material.

00:20:08.000 Oh, really?

00:20:09.000 Like a stocking? 0.98

00:20:10.000 If Justin Timberlake did that, it would be all fucking over. 0.94

00:20:13.000 Justin, if you're listening, you should do this. 0.96

00:20:15.000 You should do that, Justin.

00:20:15.000 Yeah, do it.

00:20:16.000 See what happens.

00:20:16.000 Express yourself.

00:20:17.000 See what happens.

00:20:18.000 Get those feet moving fast.

00:20:19.000 Some of us want to know.

00:20:21.000 No, but I just thought it was crazy that it was so different that people were somehow accepting, you know.

00:20:25.000 So is it pantyhose?

00:20:27.000 Like, what is he?

00:20:27.000 He's got this, like, skin-tight bodysuit.

00:20:30.000 Right, and what color is it?

00:20:31.000 White. 0.81

00:20:31.000 But how did it make you feel? 0.81

00:20:33.000 Pure white.

00:20:33.000 I was fascinated.

00:20:34.000 So you're looking at his dick as if he was wearing tight underwear, right? 1.00

00:20:38.000 It's beyond that. 1.00

00:20:39.000 Beyond that.

00:20:40.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:20:40.000 What about Magic Mike?

00:20:43.000 It's a live DVD. What about stuff like that?

00:20:45.000 Like what?

00:20:46.000 Magic Mike?

00:20:46.000 But that's a movie about people stripping.

00:20:48.000 This is a live concert in front of people. 0.99

00:20:50.000 Anybody can fucking go. 0.99

00:20:52.000 And the dude's just like, bam! 1.00

00:20:53.000 Dick out. 0.73

00:20:54.000 Yeah, it just shocked me. 0.98

00:20:56.000 And inspired me.

00:20:58.000 How is this going to affect your solo record released this fall?

00:21:01.000 Remember those old Led Zeppelin pictures where Robert Plant would have his hog tucked up on the side of his leg?

00:21:09.000 I mean, what are you going to do?

00:21:11.000 You can't lie about that.

00:21:12.000 You can't fake that.

00:21:14.000 Everybody would know.

00:21:15.000 Yeah, but when you wear underwear, it doesn't show like that, and you probably got hard before the photo.

00:21:20.000 That is a talent in and of itself, let alone the voice of an angel. 1.00

00:21:24.000 Well, if you just put a rubber band around your cock and balls right before you do it. 1.00

00:21:30.000 That's insane. 1.00

00:21:31.000 That looks uncomfortable.

00:21:33.000 It definitely was.

00:21:34.000 How do you walk with that?

00:21:36.000 It definitely was. 1.00

00:21:37.000 You walk, cock out. 1.00

00:21:38.000 Yeah, that's right. 0.99

00:21:39.000 Look at the one in the white there.

00:21:41.000 Yeah, he's drooping.

00:21:42.000 Jesus Christ! 1.00

00:21:43.000 That's his dick! 1.00

00:21:44.000 Imagine that, but if you could see the outline, there's a well-defined head that would be Freddie Mercury. 1.00

00:21:51.000 Well, then you know it's real.

00:21:52.000 Maybe not like a problem. 1.00

00:21:55.000 Put his dick to the right. 1.00

00:21:56.000 Isn't that the thing? 1.00

00:21:57.000 That you hang one way?

00:21:58.000 You can't really change it, right?

00:22:00.000 What?

00:22:01.000 Like, I'm right-handed.

00:22:02.000 This is offensive. 1.00

00:22:04.000 You don't even have a penis. 1.00

00:22:05.000 You're offending me. 1.00

00:22:06.000 Well, I'm asking.

00:22:07.000 I want to know.

00:22:09.000 Show what?

00:22:10.000 Show what?

00:22:11.000 I dare you. 1.00

00:22:12.000 If you were a girl and we were talking about your vagina, it would be really gross, right? 1.00

00:22:16.000 Wouldn't that be gross? 1.00

00:22:16.000 You can't ask questions about what a vagina is. 1.00

00:22:18.000 Let's talk about it. 0.96

00:22:19.000 What do you want to know? 1.00

00:22:19.000 Which way does your vagina slant? 1.00

00:22:21.000 Hank's right. 0.99

00:22:22.000 I think it's just right down the middle.

00:22:25.000 I'm perfectly proportioned. 1.00

00:22:28.000 Every Robert Plant one, his dick's swinging to the left. 1.00

00:22:31.000 Maybe if it's that big, he's got to tuck it in a leg. 0.99

00:22:34.000 He's got to choose a leg, and he's just gotten comfortable.

00:22:37.000 He's got a groove on the left side where it tucks in. 0.99

00:22:40.000 I mean, if you position yourself on stage a certain way, and I mean, you guys all have dicks, right? 0.99

00:22:47.000 Allegedly. 0.98

00:22:47.000 But you don't wear pants as tight as Robert Plant. 0.98

00:22:50.000 I've seen it.

00:22:51.000 I mean, check me out.

00:22:52.000 Look at this.

00:22:53.000 What is going on here?

00:22:54.000 He's got his pants down. 0.99

00:22:56.000 Is that a scrotum? 0.99

00:22:57.000 It says, Robert's Last Stand. 0.99

00:22:59.000 What is it?

00:22:59.000 Is that a real photo?

00:23:00.000 I don't think so.

00:23:01.000 That's a real cover of a real album?

00:23:02.000 That's not one of the records.

00:23:03.000 I found the blank one, and then the real one was attached to it.

00:23:07.000 Encyclopedia Ventanica.

00:23:08.000 Is that a real cover? 0.99

00:23:10.000 Oh, so in that one you actually see his dick? 1.00

00:23:12.000 Is that what the implication is? 1.00

00:23:13.000 Hmm.

00:23:15.000 I have these moments when we're podcasting where I'm like, God, I hope my parents never listen to this.

00:23:18.000 They definitely won't.

00:23:19.000 But they might really be into it.

00:23:21.000 I don't know.

00:23:21.000 What do you think, Ben?

00:23:22.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:23:23.000 Ray and Kath?

00:23:24.000 I've been going through a thing with my mom.

00:23:25.000 We don't really know each other that well, right?

00:23:27.000 It's the truth.

00:23:28.000 And I feel like this, she would learn a lot about me and my life.

00:23:32.000 Oh my God.

00:23:33.000 That's heavy.

00:23:34.000 That's a lot.

00:23:34.000 Should we send it to her?

00:23:35.000 Definitely not.

00:23:36.000 No.

00:23:37.000 I think she could handle it.

00:23:38.000 That would be horrifying.

00:23:39.000 I think she'd be freaked out.

00:23:40.000 Yeah.

00:23:41.000 Sorry, Mom.

00:23:42.000 It's okay.

00:23:42.000 She loves you.

00:23:43.000 She's a delicate person.

00:23:44.000 Whenever...

00:23:45.000 I mean, especially in this day and age, whenever do you have a chance to sit and talk to someone for three hours straight like this?

00:23:50.000 It's rare.

00:23:52.000 It's sort of the cure for what ails us when it comes to communicating, like podcasts, because...

00:23:57.000 It's so informal, and it's really just like sitting down talking, which is what a lot of us don't ever have the chance to do anymore.

00:24:04.000 Everyone is always doing a million things.

00:24:06.000 You're always looking at your phone.

00:24:07.000 You're always about to go somewhere.

00:24:09.000 You got a meeting, you got a this, you got that. 0.99

00:24:10.000 When the fuck do you ever get three hours to just sit? 0.99

00:24:14.000 To just sit. 0.99

00:24:15.000 It's a special thing.

00:24:16.000 It is.

00:24:16.000 We're very excited to be here.

00:24:18.000 But isn't it crazy that just talking is a special thing?

00:24:21.000 That shows you how weird we are right now.

00:24:24.000 As human beings, as an organism that grew up in a social environment.

00:24:29.000 I mean, every person that survives that's alive today comes from a history of people that were in tribes.

00:24:37.000 We're in these little groups of people and social interaction was everything.

00:24:41.000 You had to know each other.

00:24:43.000 But so is being alone, and that doesn't happen very often either.

00:24:47.000 Someone's moody.

00:24:49.000 How dare you?

00:24:51.000 Come on! 0.61

00:24:52.000 No, but you're talking about devices and stuff.

00:24:55.000 I couldn't help myself. 1.00

00:24:55.000 No, I love you, but you're a dick. 1.00

00:24:57.000 I love you too. 1.00

00:24:59.000 But it's true.

00:25:01.000 No, you're right.

00:25:02.000 We're always so busy. 1.00

00:25:03.000 There's always shit going on. 0.98

00:25:05.000 I definitely have these moments where I wasn't just sitting, not talking to someone, or looking at my phone. 0.99

00:25:11.000 I can't remember when I wasn't just moving.

00:25:14.000 And not even meditating, just sitting.

00:25:17.000 I've become super aware, at least over the last year, that there's a lot of wasted time in looking at devices and computers.

00:25:25.000 I've been real aware of it to the point where I had to weigh the benefits of it.

00:25:31.000 The benefits are pretty numerous.

00:25:33.000 I get a lot of really interesting articles off of social media and really interesting articles that I find online and really interesting, up-to-date information about space and science that's very, very valuable to me.

00:25:46.000 But then there's also a lot of scrolling through nonsense.

00:25:49.000 Totally. 0.99

00:25:49.000 It's equally as fruitful as it is beguiling because you get fucked up and lost in it. 0.99

00:25:54.000 I wanted to invent this app that I think someone probably already did it, but that puts a lock on your social media. 0.89

00:26:01.000 So you only get like 20 minutes a day.

00:26:03.000 And once it's up, it's done.

00:26:05.000 They have those.

00:26:06.000 You don't want it.

00:26:07.000 You just want to develop some control.

00:26:09.000 But it's also crucial for our careers.

00:26:11.000 It's crucial to have...

00:26:12.000 Your thing is built on social media.

00:26:14.000 Yes.

00:26:15.000 It's crazy.

00:26:16.000 The thing is, though, you need time alone where you're bored.

00:26:20.000 This is what I believe.

00:26:21.000 Read a book.

00:26:21.000 I think you need time to just be able to sit and think about something or do something, like practice something.

00:26:27.000 I'm sure you guys are like this with music, right?

00:26:30.000 Ben's a great practicer.

00:26:31.000 I'm really envious of his discipline.

00:26:34.000 He practices guitar every day.

00:26:37.000 Yeah, you got to.

00:26:38.000 It's like meditation.

00:26:39.000 It's the same thing.

00:26:40.000 Yeah, I think that there's something to that, for sure, that some people don't experience.

00:26:45.000 You put your phone over there or shut it off or put it in airplane mode and just do your thing, you know?

00:26:50.000 You know what's crazy about the practice is when you can separate...

00:26:54.000 Because it's tough because I'll have devices on my phone that help me practice.

00:26:58.000 I'll have metronomes and stuff like that.

00:27:00.000 And then all of a sudden, bing, bing, the stuff's going off.

00:27:02.000 And the difference between when I don't have...

00:27:05.000 My phone, when I'm not communicating with the social media world or texting, whatever, and when I do, it's insane.

00:27:12.000 In 20 minutes, it's like working out.

00:27:14.000 If you focus for 20 minutes, it's gonna replace three hours of shitty working out. 0.58

00:27:20.000 Am I right about that? 0.67

00:27:21.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:27:22.000 Yeah, it's all about how much, how deep you can go in, you know, just cognitively.

00:27:29.000 And I think, in general, people We're, like, coming to grips with this now as, like, an etiquette. 0.94

00:27:34.000 Because we didn't fucking... 0.74

00:27:35.000 Ten years ago, none of this stuff existed. 0.96

00:27:36.000 This is, like, fresh out the gate.

00:27:38.000 So we're trying to figure this out.

00:27:39.000 And there's this dude...

00:27:40.000 You just see people paying more and more attention to exactly what you're saying.

00:27:44.000 There's this guy that wrote a book called Deep Work.

00:27:46.000 And it's, like...

00:27:51.000 It's funny that it's that simple.

00:28:04.000 It's funny that it's that simple.

00:28:06.000 Real value.

00:28:06.000 Where people don't even realize how it'll take over your life and your relationships.

00:28:10.000 Well, it's new.

00:28:11.000 It's too new.

00:28:12.000 It's not that new, though.

00:28:13.000 It's super new.

00:28:14.000 It's so new.

00:28:15.000 I guess it is.

00:28:15.000 You're right.

00:28:16.000 What is it like?

00:28:18.000 1994 is the internet, right?

00:28:20.000 That's like the main spread of the internet, 94. I remember when we had Juno.

00:28:23.000 That's nothing.

00:28:24.000 Juno, and it was like electronic.

00:28:27.000 It wasn't email yet, even.

00:28:29.000 It was just like...

00:28:30.000 But do you understand that this is only like 10 years old?

00:28:33.000 That is crazy.

00:28:34.000 With the iPhones?

00:28:35.000 Right.

00:28:36.000 Didn't they just go through the 10th anniversary of the iPhone?

00:28:38.000 That's when it started.

00:28:39.000 Yeah.

00:28:39.000 Before that, there were no apps.

00:28:40.000 Right.

00:28:40.000 So if there's no apps, there's no Twitter, there's no Facebook.

00:28:44.000 Do you remember the snake game on your phone?

00:28:45.000 The snake game where it goes, it like, you just had arrows and you had to get the snake through this maze.

00:28:52.000 Yeah.

00:28:52.000 I don't play games on the phone.

00:28:53.000 It was a thing, Joe.

00:28:55.000 You really missed out.

00:28:56.000 I did.

00:28:56.000 Okay, I'm sorry to tell you.

00:28:58.000 What was it called?

00:28:59.000 Puzzle Farter?

00:29:00.000 Puzzle Farter!

00:29:01.000 No.

00:29:02.000 Joe, come on.

00:29:02.000 Puzzle Farter?

00:29:03.000 Yeah.

00:29:04.000 Jamie, if you find that, I swear to God, you're like, oh my God, it's amazing.

00:29:07.000 Is it worth something?

00:29:08.000 It was a thing.

00:29:10.000 Oh my God, when we did our first record.

00:29:11.000 It might have just been a thing with us.

00:29:12.000 With us.

00:29:13.000 Puzzle Farter. 0.96

00:29:14.000 You take this little character and you propel him with his own farts with your space bar and your arrows and you think it sounds stupid but you play your first game and you're just laughing. 0.99

00:29:24.000 Oh my god! 0.71

00:29:26.000 Joe has Neil deGrasse Tyson and then he has us talking about Puzzle Farter.

00:29:31.000 Hey, live your truth.

00:29:31.000 This is who we are.

00:29:33.000 This is actually something that brought us a lot of joy.

00:29:35.000 Just start demo levels.

00:29:36.000 It seems like you can play it.

00:29:37.000 Give it to us, Jamie.

00:29:38.000 Oh my god, you can play it online.

00:29:39.000 Get it, get it, get it, get it.

00:29:41.000 You gotta get some sound.

00:29:43.000 Listen, we're not doing this.

00:29:45.000 I'm not gonna play Puzzle Farter.

00:29:47.000 Jamie's gonna operate the controls and play Puzzle Farter.

00:29:50.000 Didn't I? Well, one day, challenge yourself.

00:29:53.000 It's a lot of fun.

00:29:55.000 I just don't think people are used to the idea of being alone anymore without these devices, and that's only been around for 10 years.

00:30:04.000 It's a lot of false comfort.

00:30:06.000 It's crazy.

00:30:06.000 But I think there's also, like, there's all these different disorders and things that they're coming up with, like, you know, young kids and their identity with Instagram and how it reflects their self-worth and how many likes they get and who liked their photos.

00:30:18.000 And, like, it's really scary.

00:30:20.000 I was looking at an article today where they were saying that girls as early as nine years old are getting surgery to make their vaginas look better. 1.00

00:30:27.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:30:28.000 That's not true. 1.00

00:30:29.000 Yes.

00:30:29.000 Really?

00:30:30.000 They might be making it up just so I'll talk about it.

00:30:32.000 Yeah, I don't think we should.

00:30:33.000 I think that sounds questionable.

00:30:36.000 I think it's in the Daily Mail, so it might be questionable.

00:30:38.000 Whose parents? 0.96

00:30:40.000 But I know that vagina surgeries, like aesthetic vagina surgeries, are on the rise. 1.00

00:30:47.000 Really? 0.88

00:30:47.000 Yeah. 0.88

00:30:48.000 I mean, they didn't exist like how many years ago?

00:30:49.000 I remember there was a trend when you would dye your pubes blue and put bedazzled little...

00:30:53.000 No, that was just you.

00:30:54.000 That was just you.

00:30:55.000 This is no trend. 0.99

00:30:57.000 Vagina surgery, it's like that fart puzzle. 1.00

00:30:59.000 Ben, you know all about this.

00:31:00.000 You know what you're talking about. 0.97

00:31:02.000 Vagina surgery. 0.99

00:31:03.000 We swim in the same pond.

00:31:04.000 This is the BBC, guys.

00:31:06.000 Come on! 0.61

00:31:07.000 That can't be right.

00:31:08.000 No, scroll back down so you see...

00:31:09.000 Look at that headline. 0.89

00:31:11.000 Vagina surgery sought by girls as young as nine. 0.99

00:31:13.000 I mean, vaginas are crazy looking. 1.00

00:31:15.000 Okay, but how... 0.99

00:31:16.000 Okay, here's the thing. 1.00

00:31:18.000 So are dicks. 0.99

00:31:18.000 A bunch of people got fired. 0.99

00:31:19.000 Dicks are weird. 0.99

00:31:20.000 They're all weird. 0.84

00:31:21.000 You're right, but it's a lot harder to operate.

00:31:23.000 Don't discriminate.

00:31:23.000 Sorry to interrupt, Joe.

00:31:24.000 Harder to operate a vagina? 1.00

00:31:25.000 I beg to differ. 1.00

00:31:26.000 No, to operate on a dick than a vagina. 1.00

00:31:28.000 I don't fucking know what I'm talking about. 1.00

00:31:29.000 Yeah, we're really making judgment calls here on what's more... 0.99

00:31:32.000 I really hope your mom doesn't listen to us.

00:31:34.000 One of these things that we know nothing about is more difficult.

00:31:36.000 Oh, it feels right.

00:31:37.000 Operating on body parts.

00:31:38.000 It feels right.

00:31:41.000 How do you know, like, this...

00:31:43.000 Here's the thing, man.

00:31:44.000 Like, CNN just got busted for...

00:31:46.000 They fired a bunch of people for writing some story about Trump and Russia that wasn't true.

00:31:51.000 You hear about that?

00:31:52.000 People get super overzealous trying to make a story real when they didn't do all the background work that was necessary.

00:32:01.000 That's why Trump can get away with calling CNN fake news, right?

00:32:04.000 Sure. 1.00

00:32:05.000 Because they're doing shit like that. 1.00

00:32:06.000 Because they're doing desperado shit. 1.00

00:32:08.000 They're getting into that blurry area where they're doing things that are just a little bit sensational, a little sensationalism, and they're trying to get people to pay attention. 0.99

00:32:16.000 Yeah.

00:32:16.000 And the pace, right?

00:32:17.000 How do we know that that's not the case here?

00:32:19.000 Sure. 0.99

00:32:21.000 I'm sure women are getting vagina surgeries. 1.00

00:32:23.000 We've heard of it. 0.98

00:32:25.000 Of course.

00:32:25.000 We know it's a real thing.

00:32:26.000 But when you see it as early as nine, man, if that's on instant clickbait, saying as young as nine, that might be worth... 0.99

00:32:35.000 Fucking hundreds of thousands of dollars. 0.98

00:32:37.000 Sure. 0.99

00:32:37.000 I mean, I don't know. 0.99

00:32:38.000 I'm just taking a guess.

00:32:39.000 If there's one case of this, they could point to that as a reference and say, we'll see. 1.00

00:32:42.000 Well, the absurdity of a young child, someone, anyone, like, looking at their vagina in any kind of pleasurable way is totally fucked up. 1.00

00:32:54.000 So why would a kid care about the appearance of their vagina? 1.00

00:32:56.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:32:57.000 None of this makes sense.

00:32:58.000 Well, exactly. 1.00

00:32:59.000 I mean, what's even creepier is you cut baby dicks. 1.00

00:33:01.000 This makes me angry. 1.00

00:33:02.000 To make them look better for Jesus.

00:33:04.000 I did that.

00:33:05.000 For Jesus, dude.

00:33:07.000 Yeah.

00:33:07.000 Jesus.

00:33:07.000 For Jesus.

00:33:08.000 Not to be too vulnerable here, but the other day, for the first time in my life, I saw my circumcision scar. 0.98

00:33:13.000 I was like, holy shit, that's what that is. 0.76

00:33:15.000 How did it make you feel? 0.99

00:33:17.000 It was intense. 1.00

00:33:18.000 I was like, someone cut my dick... 1.00

00:33:21.000 They're doing it right now as we're talking. 1.00

00:33:23.000 They're cutting baby dicks all over this country in 2017. They're just slicing baby dicks for no reason. 0.99

00:33:30.000 There's so many things I want to say and I just want to keep them to myself at this point. 0.99

00:33:32.000 Why?

00:33:33.000 Because I should.

00:33:35.000 Well, if you want to say them, I feel like you don't want to keep them to yourself.

00:33:39.000 I'm going to pass. 0.99

00:33:41.000 Is it about baby dicks? 1.00

00:33:43.000 No, it's about circumcised. 1.00

00:33:46.000 Okay, what else is going on, guys?

00:33:48.000 How's that Jack Daniels single barrel?

00:33:50.000 It's fine.

00:33:51.000 I know where you're going.

00:33:52.000 You don't have to say a word.

00:33:55.000 Turn the mulch over.

00:33:58.000 It's an aesthetic thing.

00:34:00.000 Sometimes I forget that this is being broadcast and we're not just hanging out as friends.

00:34:04.000 We should just stop talking.

00:34:06.000 We would not have to think about it over and over again.

00:34:08.000 Then I feel self-aware.

00:34:09.000 I'm just going to focus on my Joe action figure.

00:34:13.000 I mean, how much if a BBC news article like that probably gets like a million hits, right?

00:34:18.000 Am I being...

00:34:20.000 Maybe?

00:34:22.000 A lot of hits, right?

00:34:23.000 So, how much is that worth?

00:34:25.000 Like, if you can guarantee 50% more hits is it worth thousands of dollars?

00:34:30.000 Like, how much do they get paid by the ads that are on their website, right?

00:34:34.000 When I'm on the computer and I'm, like, you know, looking at something and then there's those, you know, distractify kind of things.

00:34:41.000 Oh, yeah.

00:34:42.000 And I click on them because I'm curious.

00:34:44.000 I just feel so bad about myself. 1.00

00:34:47.000 I just feel like such a piece of shit. 0.99

00:34:49.000 Like, you should be doing something better with your time, Suzanne, than looking at, you know, the, I don't know, before and after pictures of... 1.00

00:34:57.000 You know what I mean?

00:34:57.000 Who cares?

00:34:58.000 Those articles are like having phone sex with a robot. 1.00

00:35:01.000 Yeah! 1.00

00:35:02.000 It's like, you never get anything out of it. 1.00

00:35:04.000 But you're getting fucked. 0.99

00:35:05.000 You keep changing the channels. 1.00

00:35:06.000 This is weird.

00:35:08.000 Like, there's no real, it's not a real article.

00:35:11.000 Like, if you read, like, you know, the 18 hot women from the 80s, you should see them now.

00:35:18.000 Right, right.

00:35:18.000 And, you know, and you go through them, and it's like, who's writing this?

00:35:22.000 But who benefits from it?

00:35:23.000 I'm curious, like, just beyond the veil, like, what is the point?

00:35:28.000 Does someone get paid for you clicking that button?

00:35:30.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:35:31.000 That sucks. 0.99

00:35:32.000 Yeah, I hate that. 1.00

00:35:33.000 I hate that. 1.00

00:35:34.000 But it's the same shit. 1.00

00:35:35.000 I mean, like, why do people buy fucking Doritos? 1.00

00:35:37.000 It's the same thing, isn't it? 0.99

00:35:38.000 Yeah.

00:35:39.000 What do you hate about it, though?

00:35:40.000 Because I want to use my time and energy wisely and not waste it on things like that.

00:35:48.000 Because I'd rather like sit with my phone off and my computer off or learn something that is beneficial.

00:35:55.000 Right.

00:35:55.000 I think that's just wasteful.

00:35:56.000 That's junk food.

00:35:57.000 It is.

00:35:58.000 But so is Doritos.

00:35:59.000 But Doritos taste good.

00:36:01.000 Yeah.

00:36:01.000 Yeah, but they have healthy Doritos.

00:36:02.000 They have like Geek and...

00:36:04.000 The shell is a Dorito.

00:36:06.000 They have that one...

00:36:07.000 My favorite chip at 365 slash Whole Foods is like...

00:36:11.000 It's like a bean chip and it tastes like Doritos and it's not...

00:36:15.000 Wait a minute.

00:36:16.000 What's 365 slash Whole Foods?

00:36:18.000 In Glendale in California in Los Angeles.

00:36:21.000 It's called 365 slash...

00:36:22.000 Not just Whole Foods?

00:36:22.000 It's like a cheaper Whole Foods.

00:36:24.000 It's like the brand 365 when you go to Whole Foods.

00:36:27.000 Whole Foods started like an outlet.

00:36:29.000 It's an outlet.

00:36:29.000 Oh, okay.

00:36:30.000 The store.

00:36:30.000 For the poor kids.

00:36:31.000 I didn't know what that was.

00:36:32.000 It's for everybody.

00:36:33.000 Just kidding.

00:36:34.000 It's out there.

00:36:35.000 Okay.

00:36:35.000 It's out there.

00:36:35.000 Yeah, check it out.

00:36:36.000 Take it for a spin.

00:36:38.000 So what were you saying about it?

00:36:39.000 No, but they have these chips.

00:36:42.000 They have Doritos substitutes. 0.96

00:36:43.000 They taste like Doritos, and I fucking love them. 0.97

00:36:45.000 They're delicious. 0.99

00:36:46.000 You know what I think's adorable? 0.99

00:36:48.000 Trans fats are fucking terrible for you, right? 1.00

00:36:50.000 They're horrible. 1.00

00:36:51.000 And the government has decided to outlaw trans fats in two years.

00:36:57.000 Yeah, you could eat poison for two years.

00:36:59.000 Do you think it's interesting?

00:37:00.000 Ruthless diarrhea and just shallow calories. 0.88

00:37:04.000 Oh, God, that's awful. 0.99

00:37:04.000 And a lot of people are going to die because of obesity because you're addicted to sucking down these things. 0.99

00:37:08.000 When you go to Canada, they have their Heinz ketchup and we have our Heinz ketchup.

00:37:13.000 And the Canadian Heinz ketchup does not have high fructose corn syrup.

00:37:16.000 What does it have?

00:37:17.000 Sugar?

00:37:18.000 I don't know, but it doesn't have high fructose corn syrup because it's banned.

00:37:21.000 And it's gross.

00:37:22.000 It tasted differently and I liked it.

00:37:25.000 I'm not kidding.

00:37:26.000 I think that's interesting that right on the other side of this border, they have better ketchup.

00:37:31.000 Well, they have better Coca-Cola in Mexico.

00:37:33.000 They do.

00:37:34.000 They use cane sugar.

00:37:34.000 That's true.

00:37:35.000 Tastes better?

00:37:36.000 I mean, I don't really drink Coca-Cola, but it's...

00:37:39.000 It does taste better.

00:37:40.000 It's just interesting what the FDA approves in our country for the food that we eat. 0.95

00:37:43.000 They don't give a fuck about us. 0.99

00:37:45.000 They don't give a fuck. 1.00

00:37:46.000 All those government agencies are a bunch of puppets when it comes to diet and exercise and what you're allowed to put in cigarettes and what you're allowed to put in all sorts of different drugs that get passed. 1.00

00:37:57.000 It is fucking bananas. 0.99

00:37:59.000 We were talking about Nevada just became legal for marijuana. 1.00

00:38:03.000 It's fucking bananas how it took until 2017 where states finally started making weed legal while people were dropping off left and right from opiate pills. 0.75

00:38:16.000 There was a study that Dr. Hart Is that his name? 0.97

00:38:21.000 It's on my Twitter.

00:38:23.000 I tweeted it earlier today or last night.

00:38:27.000 But it was 93% of patients that have pain preferred cannabis over opioids.

00:38:33.000 Sure.

00:38:34.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

00:38:35.000 Opioids or opiates?

00:38:37.000 Opiates.

00:38:38.000 Yeah, I can attest to that.

00:38:41.000 Of course.

00:38:43.000 I mean, menstrual cramps are debilitating for some ladies, I'll be honest. 1.00

00:38:49.000 And that's why I got my weed license.

00:38:52.000 Because it's night and day.

00:38:54.000 Wow.

00:38:55.000 Tell them about the thing.

00:38:56.000 Well, they have...

00:38:57.000 Actually, I don't care.

00:38:58.000 I feel comfortable.

00:39:00.000 They have suppositories that you put in your twinkle. 1.00

00:39:05.000 They get your eyes fucked? 0.99

00:39:07.000 No, they don't get you... 0.99

00:39:07.000 I mean, they make this warm, wonderful feeling in your belly that is the antithesis of writhing in pain and being out of commission for a day. 0.99

00:39:19.000 Which happens every month.

00:39:20.000 I get one or two days where I'm just down.

00:39:22.000 I'm in so much pain.

00:39:23.000 I can't do anything.

00:39:24.000 And it's awful.

00:39:26.000 But weed has been the best thing that's happened for that ailment.

00:39:32.000 Whereas you take Motrin, and you can take Motrin, but it can give you a terrible stomach ache because it's really bad.

00:39:37.000 It's really bad for your liver, and you're taking just handfuls of Motrin.

00:39:43.000 And Advil, all those things.

00:39:45.000 Yeah, it's the same thing.

00:39:45.000 Non-steroidal anti-inflammatories.

00:39:48.000 Those things are super bad for your body.

00:39:50.000 But it's interesting that that's what you would take as opposed to having weed legal and all of its different medicinal facets that can help you.

00:40:00.000 Well, the difference is obviously there's a psychoactive effect that's probably unwanted for a lot of people that take Advil.

00:40:05.000 They just want to get rid of the headache. 0.99

00:40:07.000 They don't want to trip their fucking balls off. 1.00

00:40:09.000 Right. 1.00

00:40:09.000 But that's where like CBDs come in. 1.00

00:40:11.000 Yeah, they're great.

00:40:12.000 They're great.

00:40:12.000 But apparently some people take CBDs and they experience some sort of a psychoactive effect.

00:40:18.000 I've talked to quite a few people that say that.

00:40:20.000 I don't understand that.

00:40:21.000 Maybe they're getting stuff that's like weird.

00:40:24.000 It's probably got pot in it. 0.99

00:40:26.000 I think that too.

00:40:26.000 I think some of the recipes...

00:40:29.000 Like, I've definitely gotten edibles that were duds, and you have too.

00:40:32.000 It's just like, oh, I think they missed something.

00:40:34.000 You know, it's still sort of like a primitive market.

00:40:37.000 So I think a lot of the companies, and you see some of them, like, come in and come out just like, boom, boom, boom, like new restaurants didn't make it.

00:40:45.000 I think there's definitely a search for more reliable product in that regard.

00:40:51.000 And we're also so different.

00:40:53.000 Like, I'm...

00:40:54.000 People react to weed so differently.

00:40:56.000 I'm terrible with weed.

00:40:56.000 You are an example of that.

00:40:57.000 Yeah, you blow my mind.

00:40:58.000 I feel like last time we talked, you told me not to blow up your spine.

00:41:01.000 But at one point you took a thousand milligrams, is that true?

00:41:04.000 Yeah, I've done that a couple of times. 0.99

00:41:06.000 That's fucking insane. 1.00

00:41:07.000 If I take ten milligrams, I'm fucked. 1.00

00:41:09.000 Yeah, but I can't hang with Joey Diaz. 1.00

00:41:11.000 Joey Diaz will take a thousand and then he'll eat 250 more in front of you and laugh at you.

00:41:15.000 That's insane.

00:41:15.000 Well, I told you that story when we were at Coachella and I accidentally took a 25 milligram Jolly Rancher because it was a hard candy.

00:41:23.000 You don't just bite it in half.

00:41:24.000 And my friends were like, you took the whole thing?

00:41:26.000 And I was like, yeah.

00:41:26.000 And I lost my mind watching Radiohead.

00:41:30.000 This was years ago.

00:41:31.000 And coincidentally, ran into Gary Clark Jr. And I was like, Gary.

00:41:38.000 Help me find Ben!

00:41:39.000 And I was just losing my mind.

00:41:43.000 I bet he was super helpful. 1.00

00:41:44.000 But I told you that story, Joe, and you were like, fuck that! 1.00

00:41:47.000 I'd take 25 milligrams and go to the movies! 1.00

00:41:49.000 And I was like, okay, well, you are very tough.

00:41:51.000 Well, this is the point.

00:41:52.000 But I am not.

00:41:53.000 There's no consistency.

00:41:55.000 You get your 25 milligrams.

00:41:56.000 And it's also a matter of how much you take and how often you take it.

00:41:59.000 I definitely didn't say it like that.

00:42:01.000 No, you're so cool.

00:42:04.000 Check the tape.

00:42:10.000 You're a total gentleman about it.

00:42:11.000 People do like to brag about how much they can take, me included.

00:42:14.000 I can't. 0.99

00:42:14.000 I'd be like, bitch, I'll take that whole candy. 0.99

00:42:16.000 No, you won't. 1.00

00:42:17.000 Fuck yeah, I will. 1.00

00:42:18.000 Let's go on a journey. 1.00

00:42:19.000 Let's go on a journey, pussy. 1.00

00:42:22.000 Joey Diaz is a horrible person though. 1.00

00:42:24.000 Joey will take these chibichus and he'll take the ones that have 500 milligrams and he'll swap the package for one that has 75 milligrams. 0.91

00:42:33.000 He'll give it to somebody. 0.99

00:42:35.000 He doesn't give a fuck and he'll laugh because he knows you're gonna live. 0.99

00:42:39.000 Everybody lives. 0.99

00:42:40.000 Everybody lives.

00:42:41.000 We had a friend who said he ate an edible And he slept for 24 hours?

00:42:50.000 I'm not going to say who, but we had a friend, right?

00:42:53.000 I don't remember what you're talking about.

00:42:55.000 Because I'm so hot!

00:42:56.000 You know who I'm talking about.

00:42:57.000 No, I don't, but it's all right.

00:42:59.000 Okay, well, a friend of yours had never had weed before, and someone gave him an edible, and he slept for like 24 hours and woke up like an entire day later.

00:43:08.000 That totally happens.

00:43:09.000 If you don't do it all the time, if you're not used to it, yeah.

00:43:13.000 It's intense.

00:43:13.000 I felt more high on edibles than I have like taking mushrooms.

00:43:17.000 For sure.

00:43:18.000 But I didn't take that many mushrooms.

00:43:19.000 But it's a very intense psychoactive experience when you take an edible.

00:43:23.000 It is.

00:43:23.000 I've said this so many times, I apologize in advance.

00:43:26.000 But your body produces something called 11-hydroxymetabolite when THC is processed by your liver.

00:43:31.000 It's five times more psychoactive than THC. It's a way different drug.

00:43:35.000 And it's not psychoactive when you smoke it.

00:43:37.000 So when you're smoking pot, your body's not producing the 11-hydroxy metabolite.

00:43:43.000 When you process it with your liver, your body produces this intense psychedelic drug. 0.98

00:43:48.000 When you eat weed and then close your eyes, you have some of the craziest fucking visuals that match up there. 0.95

00:43:57.000 As long as you have enough, they go right up to everything. 0.98

00:44:00.000 They go right up to mushrooms.

00:44:02.000 You can have these mini DMT trips if Oh, I smoked DMT with weed once.

00:44:08.000 It was insane.

00:44:10.000 How about that?

00:44:11.000 It changed my life.

00:44:13.000 When did you do this?

00:44:13.000 This was a couple years ago.

00:44:16.000 A good friend of mine.

00:44:18.000 And I took one hit and it was like zero to a hundred.

00:44:23.000 It was just like you exhaled and then you just take off.

00:44:26.000 And I mean, I'd never smoked DMT before and I'm very sensitive to weed.

00:44:30.000 So I was high for like two, three hours.

00:44:34.000 And at one point, We were sitting on a balcony, and I was watching the street, and it flipped into negative, like a photograph, like the colors changed.

00:44:44.000 Wait, man, this is like, you smoked the DMT, and how many minutes later is this happening?

00:44:50.000 This was in about 10 minutes.

00:44:52.000 Oh, okay.

00:44:53.000 So that was when it was most intense.

00:44:54.000 So you kept your eyes open.

00:44:56.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:57.000 Should I close my eyes?

00:44:59.000 Oh, yeah.

00:45:00.000 Tell me how to do it!

00:45:01.000 I don't know!

00:45:02.000 It sounds like you took a small dose if you took one hit.

00:45:06.000 No, I took a couple hits.

00:45:08.000 You took a couple hits.

00:45:08.000 But my first hit, it was just like...

00:45:09.000 So right away.

00:45:10.000 It was like Star Wars when it just goes into warp speed.

00:45:13.000 Yeah.

00:45:13.000 Where you're like...

00:45:14.000 Like, it was insane.

00:45:16.000 D&T's got a weird threshold thing that happens.

00:45:19.000 Yeah, tell me everything.

00:45:20.000 And it's like three hits in.

00:45:21.000 What happened to me?

00:45:22.000 There's something about three...

00:45:23.000 Three hits in is when reality dissolves.

00:45:26.000 For most people.

00:45:27.000 That's what they say.

00:45:28.000 Three hits.

00:45:28.000 Okay.

00:45:29.000 And, um...

00:45:30.000 If you took one or two, you get crazy visuals, you get weird, freaky stuff.

00:45:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:45:35.000 But you don't go to the alien dimension.

00:45:36.000 I saw...

00:45:37.000 No, yes, I did.

00:45:38.000 You did.

00:45:38.000 I totally did.

00:45:39.000 So you took enough.

00:45:40.000 So did you close your eyes while you were there, or did you have them open?

00:45:43.000 Well, it was nighttime, so I could see the stars.

00:45:47.000 Wow.

00:45:47.000 And at one point, I went completely deaf.

00:45:50.000 All the sounds just went...

00:45:52.000 And I was watching a moving street, and I couldn't hear anything.

00:45:56.000 It was intense.

00:45:57.000 How high up were you?

00:45:58.000 Just a couple stories.

00:45:59.000 Were you worried about freaking out and trying to fly?

00:46:01.000 No, no, no, no.

00:46:03.000 I was on the ride.

00:46:07.000 Wait, tell me more.

00:46:08.000 That's the big fear, right?

00:46:09.000 The big fear is like someone taking a psychedelic and they're on a balcony.

00:46:12.000 Like Bill Hicks used to have a bit about that.

00:46:14.000 Okay.

00:46:14.000 Young man on acid.

00:46:15.000 Thought he could fly.

00:46:16.000 You know, leapt tragically to his death.

00:46:19.000 Oh, that's scary.

00:46:19.000 What a tragedy.

00:46:20.000 He goes, what a dick. 1.00

00:46:21.000 Still here. 1.00

00:46:21.000 He goes, if you thought he could fly, why didn't he take off from the ground first? 1.00

00:46:25.000 Oh. 1.00

00:46:26.000 He goes, we just lost a moron. 1.00

00:46:29.000 That's awful. 1.00

00:46:30.000 Oh boy.

00:46:31.000 It was great.

00:46:34.000 And then he had a positive drug story.

00:46:38.000 Yeah, which you never do here.

00:46:39.000 Yeah.

00:46:41.000 It is interesting.

00:46:42.000 You know, I don't like to say that the news is fake, because it's not fake. 0.98

00:46:45.000 It's like they're doing the best they can, and they vet themselves the best they can, and they definitely fuck up.

00:46:50.000 And definitely people get ambitious.

00:46:52.000 But it is kind of interesting that they only tell you, like, sanctioned things.

00:46:57.000 Like, you're never going to see, like, a whole Fox News article on the benefits of psychedelic drugs, and how it could change your consciousness, and how Suzanne smoked pot with Duncan Trussell with...

00:47:09.000 DMT laced in it.

00:47:11.000 It was not Dunkin' Truffle.

00:47:13.000 But it could be, you know what I'm saying?

00:47:14.000 I did take mushrooms with Dunkin' once though.

00:47:16.000 I'm sure.

00:47:17.000 It was amazing.

00:47:18.000 If you haven't, you haven't lived.

00:47:19.000 It was like the first time I'd ever like really been high on mushrooms.

00:47:22.000 Oh yeah?

00:47:23.000 Yeah.

00:47:24.000 I saw my grandfather.

00:47:26.000 Ooh, that's intense.

00:47:28.000 Yeah, we should talk about that another time.

00:47:29.000 I saw my grandfather once on weed.

00:47:32.000 I ate an edible and then had a dream.

00:47:35.000 And the dream was really intense.

00:47:37.000 And I was talking to my grandfather.

00:47:39.000 It was really weird.

00:47:41.000 Like I hadn't seen him in forever.

00:47:43.000 You know, he died when I was...

00:47:47.000 I was in my 20s.

00:47:50.000 Did it feel real?

00:47:52.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:53.000 Did you guys spend a lot of time together when he was alive?

00:47:55.000 Yeah, we did.

00:47:56.000 He used to take me fishing and stuff like that.

00:48:01.000 He was a really nice guy.

00:48:04.000 He just took care of my grandmother for the last 12 years of her life.

00:48:09.000 She had a stroke and you had to take care of her for a long time.

00:48:13.000 She had an aneurysm.

00:48:14.000 Oh my god.

00:48:15.000 Yeah, and I lived with them at that time because I'd moved from Boston to New York.

00:48:20.000 I didn't have a place to stay.

00:48:22.000 So I lived with my grandfather and my grandmother in New Jersey, and it was just a super dark time.

00:48:27.000 How old were you?

00:48:30.000 24?

00:48:31.000 Oh wow.

00:48:31.000 Somewhere around then.

00:48:32.000 And it made me realize, like really intensely, that this life does not last.

00:48:40.000 You have to really be appreciative of health and your ability to move and your ability to experience things.

00:48:49.000 Totally.

00:48:49.000 And it just seems like such a given.

00:48:53.000 And because it's such a given and we get wrapped up in so many different things, it's super easy to lose touch with that, to be happy.

00:49:00.000 I was talking to a really good friend of mine who's going through a divorce.

00:49:03.000 And he started getting all bummed out about it and this and that.

00:49:06.000 And I was like, look, man, you are so lucky.

00:49:08.000 You're happy.

00:49:09.000 You're healthy.

00:49:11.000 You're alive.

00:49:11.000 You have a bunch of great friends.

00:49:13.000 You're going to be fine.

00:49:14.000 This is all going to be fine.

00:49:15.000 This is like a little journey you're going to go through.

00:49:18.000 It's all in how you look at it, how you approach this journey, how you're going to come out of it on the other end.

00:49:23.000 But being a young guy and living with my grandmother when she was dying...

00:49:27.000 And my grandfather, we need to take care of her.

00:49:29.000 And seeing the both of them, like, struggle.

00:49:31.000 It was intense.

00:49:33.000 Well, can I ask you a question?

00:49:35.000 Sure.

00:49:36.000 When you feel like you...

00:49:38.000 When you had this psychedelic experience where you saw your grandfather, like, does that...

00:49:42.000 To you, is that, like, a real experience of him being somewhere else and communicating with you?

00:49:49.000 Or...

00:49:49.000 It's probably just an ego trip.

00:49:51.000 It's probably just me thinking that I can recreate my memory.

00:49:55.000 But what was interesting about it is the memories were so intense.

00:49:58.000 They were so realistic.

00:50:00.000 They were like my grandfather.

00:50:01.000 He used to talk and he used to behave.

00:50:03.000 He was always a very gentle man.

00:50:06.000 A very gentle guy with a very easy way about him.

00:50:11.000 He was a really interesting guy.

00:50:13.000 And he was like that in the dream.

00:50:15.000 He was that guy in the dream.

00:50:17.000 Well, it makes sense, too, if you go through a really impactful time.

00:50:21.000 It just digs those grooves deep.

00:50:23.000 I'm sure. 0.87

00:50:24.000 In your brain.

00:50:24.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

00:50:25.000 I'm sure.

00:50:26.000 It's wild.

00:50:26.000 And I had it once with Phil Hartman, too.

00:50:28.000 It was super intense.

00:50:30.000 The Phil Hartman one was super intense.

00:50:32.000 It was years after he died, like maybe more than 10. And in the dream, he was sitting in a lawn chair...

00:50:43.000 And somehow or another, he was telling me what life was like after his wife had killed himself, or killed him, and then killed herself.

00:50:52.000 It was really intense.

00:50:55.000 And somehow or another, I was talking to him from this next stage of existence.

00:51:00.000 But the next stage of existence, it wasn't heaven, and it wasn't the DMT dimension.

00:51:05.000 It was like a picnic.

00:51:06.000 It was like there was a lawn, and it was like a bunch of people hanging out, and he had a...

00:51:12.000 He was just laughing and joking around and being jovial about things.

00:51:16.000 And he was just talking about, oh yeah, we talked about that.

00:51:19.000 Like, about him and the wife after she shot him and killed him.

00:51:21.000 He was like joking around in my dream.

00:51:23.000 That's incredible.

00:51:24.000 Yeah, we had to have a conversation about that.

00:51:26.000 Wow.

00:51:26.000 You know, it was like, wow.

00:51:28.000 It was so crazy.

00:51:29.000 It was so intense because it was so real and it was him.

00:51:33.000 And he fell backwards in his chair, like laughing.

00:51:38.000 He fell backwards in his chair, almost like a pratfall.

00:51:41.000 And then he was gone.

00:51:42.000 What?

00:51:43.000 And then the dream was gone.

00:51:44.000 And then it all went away and I woke up.

00:51:46.000 Because it was so intense.

00:51:47.000 I woke up and I was like, whoa, that really felt like I was talking to Phil.

00:51:52.000 Like it didn't feel like just a memory.

00:51:54.000 It really felt like I was talking to Phil.

00:51:57.000 But again, what is that?

00:51:58.000 Is that an ego trip?

00:51:59.000 Is that your imagination?

00:52:00.000 Is that your memory?

00:52:01.000 No, I believe in that stuff.

00:52:01.000 Do you?

00:52:02.000 Are you all in?

00:52:03.000 I am.

00:52:04.000 I'm in.

00:52:04.000 I mean, because I've had...

00:52:05.000 I mean, I think there's a lot of bullshit with... 0.96

00:52:08.000 You need to be skeptical from the external people that try to tell you stuff. 0.99

00:52:13.000 But I've definitely had people help me understand what all that shit means when I've had dreams like that with my deceased relatives and they told me things and then they happened. 0.97

00:52:24.000 Yeah, it could be your ego, but... 0.98

00:52:27.000 I don't think that makes it less real, though, if it's your ego or your mind, you know, creating a scenario with a loved one or whatever.

00:52:35.000 I don't think that's less real than the idea of this spirit re-embodying, you know, I don't know, some sort of physical form or whatever.

00:52:44.000 I think they're both kind of valid.

00:52:47.000 And it's energy.

00:52:48.000 I think it's an exchange of energy.

00:52:50.000 And we've definitely been in places where we felt like Not alone.

00:52:56.000 And we weren't high.

00:52:58.000 You have those moments where your instincts and your intuition are aware of external things that you can't see, but you can feel.

00:53:07.000 And maybe you can see them.

00:53:09.000 We've seen a ghost once.

00:53:11.000 Can I just address what you just said, though?

00:53:13.000 But there is a difference, right?

00:53:14.000 There is a difference because one of them is your imagination and one of them is you talking to a ghost.

00:53:19.000 There's a huge difference.

00:53:20.000 Because one of them, it means ghosts are real.

00:53:22.000 And the other one, it just means your imagination is real, which you're absolutely 100% aware of, right? 0.99

00:53:27.000 So we know people have ridiculous imaginations. 0.91

00:53:29.000 They dream and imagine things constantly. 0.91

00:53:31.000 So there is a big difference between the two of them.

00:53:33.000 Because one of them gives you a...

00:53:37.000 A view into a mystical world that doesn't, in the eyes of science, it doesn't seem to make sense, right?

00:53:46.000 It doesn't seem to want to exist if there's another world where people can come back from the dead and talk to you and have conversations with you.

00:53:53.000 But one of the arguments that I've always used with psychedelic drugs is that if you feel like in a psychedelic experience you went to heaven and had a conversation with God or you went to another dimension and talked to the infinite wisdom that controls the The cells of the universe.

00:54:11.000 If you did do that, or if you took the drugs and felt like you did that, it's the same experience.

00:54:17.000 Like, that's the difference. 0.99

00:54:19.000 It's like, I don't know if God's real, and I don't know what the fuck happens when you take psychedelic drugs, but god damn it feels similar. 0.98

00:54:25.000 Sure. 0.98

00:54:25.000 Like, there's moments where you have intense psychedelic trips where you really do believe that You're in the presence of like this pure wisdom and pure love that sees you in a way that is undeniable and you can't argue it. 0.98

00:54:38.000 I think it's a gateway.

00:54:38.000 I don't know.

00:54:38.000 I think sometimes it's your ego.

00:54:40.000 Sometimes it's some weird shit in your brain. 1.00

00:54:41.000 Sometimes I think it's real. 0.99

00:54:42.000 I think it's very complicated.

00:54:45.000 It is complicated, but my point is they're the same experience.

00:54:47.000 If you're talking to God or if you're talking to your imagination that creates this God...

00:54:53.000 For that brief moment, in those 15 minutes, it's the same experience.

00:54:58.000 I don't know if that's enough, but that's something.

00:55:01.000 I don't know.

00:55:02.000 Your old time on Earth is just time, right?

00:55:05.000 Your time on Earth is just, you have a limited, finite amount.

00:55:07.000 You got 100 years if you're fucking super lucky, and you got good genes, and that's a wrap, right?

00:55:12.000 So we have this little time thing. 0.95

00:55:14.000 But during those 15 minutes, which is a small amount of time, but the whole life's small.

00:55:20.000 During those 15 minutes, you are absolutely experiencing something divine.

00:55:26.000 Now, is that in your imagination?

00:55:28.000 Is that you finding some portal to another dimension?

00:55:32.000 Is that the reason why your brain produces these chemicals in the first place is because we transition during the time of death into this new realm?

00:55:39.000 Is that it?

00:55:40.000 But if your concept of what divinity is includes all of that stuff, it gets to be both.

00:55:47.000 Sure, but there's a real problem with defining something that you just can't define.

00:55:53.000 The whole problem with psychedelic trips, I don't know if you guys feel this way, but for me, it's always like, whenever I tell somebody about it, I'm like, why even use words?

00:56:03.000 The words don't work.

00:56:05.000 They're not enough.

00:56:06.000 Not enough.

00:56:07.000 You can scramble them together and say them perfect and scream them from a rooftop.

00:56:10.000 I think when you use the words, too, it can almost, like, demean the experience.

00:56:14.000 Diminish, right?

00:56:15.000 Diminish the keep, sorry.

00:56:16.000 Well, that's when we're kind of pushing against the limits of language.

00:56:20.000 Yeah.

00:56:20.000 You know, and that's why I think there's such a wide array of people's theories and beliefs and thoughts, and they're all valid because we don't have, there's no agreed-upon language to say, okay, this is how we all feel and this is how we're doing it.

00:56:35.000 I always go back to music with this stuff, but there's a similar...

00:56:40.000 Pathway and trend in music, where people are constantly redefining the language of it.

00:56:44.000 And, you know, there's a kind of a mainstream openness to that, or there isn't.

00:56:49.000 But the idea, the point is, the language is dynamic, you know?

00:56:52.000 And it goes on to continuously try and express something that's kind of inexpressible.

00:56:57.000 Yeah.

00:56:58.000 And that's why it acts as a magnet for people's thought, because they say, okay, this is kind of our pathway of experimentation to understand...

00:57:08.000 Well, it's like mainstream is like the fast food of music a little bit, and then there's some more obscure like restaurants off the beaten path that you've never tasted anything like this. 0.98

00:57:17.000 And they're developing the vocabulary that most people are like, that fucking tastes gross. 0.97

00:57:21.000 I'm not eating a cricket. 0.99

00:57:22.000 You know what I mean?

00:57:23.000 But in 50 years, you know, that vocabulary kind of seeps its way in if it has value.

00:57:30.000 I always felt like, I mean, you guys are the musicians, but I always felt like what music sort of is is almost like a vessel that the artist fills with emotion and with, like, passion.

00:57:42.000 And it's almost like it doesn't even matter what the words are sometimes.

00:57:45.000 Sometimes it does because those words and the feeling behind them enhance the song.

00:57:49.000 But, like, Voodoo Child, perfect example. 1.00

00:57:52.000 Like...

00:57:53.000 There's like a lot of...

00:57:54.000 The lyrics aren't particularly profound.

00:57:56.000 Like, the night I was born, you say the moon turned a...

00:57:59.000 I don't even know the lyrics.

00:58:00.000 I just know the feeling of the song.

00:58:02.000 Like, I just feel the song. 1.00

00:58:04.000 Yeah, it's just about being a bad motherfucker. 1.00

00:58:06.000 I was born a bad motherfucker, bitch. 1.00

00:58:08.000 I mean, that's basically... 1.00

00:58:09.000 He really was.

00:58:09.000 He was.

00:58:10.000 He wasn't lying.

00:58:11.000 Who can argue that, Jimmy?

00:58:12.000 Staring me in the eye.

00:58:13.000 They say the moon turned to fire red on the night I was born.

00:58:16.000 I mean, that's not profound, right?

00:58:18.000 But when you hear him say it with that guitar behind it, with those emotions, it carries that song.

00:58:26.000 What's profound is the...

00:58:30.000 It's part of a lineage, you know what I mean?

00:58:32.000 That's a proclamation, and that's part of blues music, and that's part of African music, and that's part of all this stuff. 0.99

00:58:36.000 You're just like, I'm a fucking man or woman or whatever. 0.98

00:58:39.000 I'm a human. 1.00

00:58:40.000 Boom.

00:58:40.000 Here it is.

00:58:41.000 Yeah, but it's more than that with him.

00:58:43.000 What he's saying is he's a voodoo child. 0.99

00:58:45.000 He's basically claiming some Robert Johnson type shit. 0.99

00:58:48.000 The night I was born, the moon turned a fire red, you know? 0.99

00:58:52.000 Yeah.

00:58:53.000 Did he write that song?

00:58:54.000 Are we certain?

00:58:55.000 I don't know who wrote it, but he sang it.

00:58:57.000 He didn't write All Along the Watchtower, right?

00:59:00.000 That's Bob Dylan.

00:59:02.000 His grandmother was a Native American, so he has all this...

00:59:08.000 There's two versions, too.

00:59:10.000 There's one version that's like the real bluesy version of Voodoo Child.

00:59:15.000 You know, there's the Voodoo Child's Slight Return, and there's that other version, which is like much more acoustic or much more guitar-driven.

00:59:24.000 Mm-hmm.

00:59:28.000 Guitar sounds is a perfect example.

00:59:30.000 Gary Clark Jr. is a perfect example.

00:59:32.000 When he came and played with you guys on stage, I saw you guys downtown a few months back.

00:59:37.000 Dude, when he gets on stage, his sound is Gary Clark Jr. You know what I'm saying? 0.96

00:59:43.000 You guys were singing Midnight Rider, which was fucking amazing. 0.88

00:59:47.000 Did he have pedals with him or did he just plug in? 0.95

00:59:49.000 Yeah, he just took my guitar and was playing it straight in.

00:59:52.000 Dude.

00:59:53.000 But that sound...

00:59:55.000 It's like a sound that you instantly, like Stevie Ray Vaughan had it, Hendrix had it.

00:59:59.000 It's like a sound you instantly recognize, like one of his riffs.

01:00:04.000 Crazy!

01:00:05.000 How does someone do that? 0.53

01:00:06.000 Because it's him.

01:00:08.000 But that's kind of what we're talking about as far as vocabulary, too.

01:00:10.000 And maybe this happens in fighting.

01:00:13.000 I imagine it does.

01:00:14.000 People have techniques or whatever that they slowly turn into their own thing.

01:00:19.000 And that's what makes them...

01:00:21.000 Well, and they're derivative of a lot of things, of a lot of different techniques, so then you kind of have this, like, at least for music, I'll speak for myself, I just feel like I have this, like, garble of stuff that just, when people are like, what are, how would you describe your sound?

01:00:34.000 It's so awkward, because you're not like, I sound just like that.

01:00:38.000 You know, there's, it's just such a...

01:00:43.000 Yeah, you can't make...

01:00:45.000 What do you sound like?

01:00:46.000 I can't do this.

01:00:47.000 I gotta leave.

01:00:49.000 Don't ask me that question.

01:00:50.000 What kind of comedy are you, Joe Rogan?

01:00:53.000 I did a radio show last week where a guy asked me to make him laugh. 1.00

01:00:57.000 Oh, fuck that. 1.00

01:00:58.000 What did you do, Joe? 1.00

01:00:59.000 I said, well, that's not going to happen.

01:01:00.000 Did you tickle him?

01:01:01.000 I said, what are you, a child?

01:01:02.000 That made me laugh.

01:01:03.000 That made me laugh. 0.99

01:01:04.000 It's so ridiculous. 0.96

01:01:05.000 Someone calls up on the phone, their singer, and you're like, sing me a song. 0.94

01:01:09.000 Oh, yeah, people do that all the time.

01:01:10.000 Sing me a song, that's really good.

01:01:11.000 People are like, oh, you're a singer?

01:01:12.000 Let's hear you sing. 1.00

01:01:14.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:01:16.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:01:16.000 It's a funny feeling. 1.00

01:01:18.000 It's humbling.

01:01:19.000 It's super humbling because it's like sometimes we've...

01:01:22.000 Why is it humbling? 0.99

01:01:22.000 You're talking to a twat. 0.99

01:01:24.000 Well, no, you're talking to someone who doesn't understand. 1.00

01:01:26.000 Well, they're being a twat. 0.98

01:01:27.000 And sure, but like, I don't know. 0.99

01:01:29.000 I feel like the need to like...

01:01:32.000 Even connect with the twats sometimes and just say, hey, I'll sing for you.

01:01:37.000 If you don't like it, that's fine.

01:01:38.000 I'll sing for you.

01:01:39.000 That's fine.

01:01:40.000 I'm not above that.

01:01:41.000 Connecting to the twats is deep.

01:01:43.000 That was my chair.

01:01:47.000 I swear to God.

01:01:48.000 We always have to feel the need to recreate that sound.

01:01:50.000 Let me just move it again like that.

01:01:51.000 One more time.

01:01:52.000 Let everybody know.

01:01:53.000 I would tell you.

01:01:56.000 Just sneak over us.

01:01:58.000 And we're back.

01:02:02.000 That's weird.

01:02:03.000 There's no need for somebody to ask that.

01:02:05.000 No.

01:02:05.000 Well, you know, it's just lazy entertaining.

01:02:08.000 It's also that job of being the radio host is a tough fucking job. 0.93

01:02:13.000 It's you get three minutes to talk to someone you never talked to before and maybe you're not so good at it and DJs on radio stations nowadays, they're not even really DJs anymore. 0.99

01:02:22.000 They don't get to pick the fucking songs. 0.99

01:02:24.000 Who the fuck lets you pick the songs? 1.00

01:02:27.000 One dude? 1.00

01:02:27.000 Fuck that. 1.00

01:02:28.000 Some of them do. 1.00

01:02:29.000 There's some big daddies out there.

01:02:31.000 Come on.

01:02:31.000 When it comes to commercial radio.

01:02:33.000 How many?

01:02:34.000 There's like 10 stations across the nation that are still public radio.

01:02:38.000 Kevin and Bean camp.

01:02:39.000 KCRW. Doesn't Jason Bentley pick...

01:02:42.000 His shit? 1.00

01:02:43.000 Yeah, but that's a unique thing. 1.00

01:02:44.000 Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

01:02:45.000 But that's what I'm saying.

01:02:46.000 There's still some people that are holding court.

01:02:49.000 It's like Game of Thrones. 0.99

01:02:51.000 Just knocking bitches out. 1.00

01:02:52.000 But I think it has to be small stations where not a lot of people are paying attention. 0.98

01:02:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:02:57.000 Because the big ones, they need the money that's going to dictate the playlist.

01:03:01.000 But that doesn't mean you still can't. 0.99

01:03:03.000 If that part of your job as a DJ is even taken away, then what is your fucking job? 0.97

01:03:07.000 To be interesting on the air. 0.98

01:03:09.000 They can't do that.

01:03:10.000 Yeah.

01:03:11.000 Do you know how they get ratings?

01:03:13.000 This is the most hilarious thing.

01:03:14.000 Or they did, at least until recently. 0.99

01:03:16.000 They still do the Arbitron shit? 0.99

01:03:17.000 Is that how they do the radio ratings? 0.99

01:03:19.000 The way they do it is they hand out books.

01:03:22.000 And they ask people to fill out the books.

01:03:24.000 Tell us what you were listening to and when you were listening to it.

01:03:26.000 So what do you get? 1.00

01:03:27.000 You get the opinion of assholes that are willing to fill out those fucking books. 1.00

01:03:32.000 Who's going to fill out that book? 1.00

01:03:33.000 They're going to give you that book and you're going to go, what? 0.99

01:03:35.000 I've got shit to do. 0.99

01:03:37.000 I'm not filling out this fucking radio book. 0.99

01:03:39.000 It's like, sorry. 0.99

01:03:40.000 No, you.

01:03:41.000 Our first record had a single called Little Toy Gun.

01:03:45.000 Yeah, great song.

01:03:45.000 Love that.

01:03:46.000 They were testing that.

01:03:47.000 I guess maybe it's different now.

01:03:49.000 I don't know.

01:03:49.000 They were calling people, like potential listeners, kind of like a Nielsen vibe, a little.

01:03:53.000 And they would play them a bunch of songs and be like, whoa, do you like it?

01:03:56.000 Like literally over the phone, you'd hear like 20 seconds of a song.

01:04:00.000 And you give it a thumbs up or thumbs down.

01:04:01.000 And that's how you're getting the ratings.

01:04:03.000 That's what defines whether our song was successful.

01:04:05.000 It's so different now, though.

01:04:06.000 There's like...

01:04:08.000 And now you've got internet radio that's free, so people don't have to pay for it.

01:04:13.000 They don't have to call in.

01:04:14.000 They just have to listen, and that is monitored through...

01:04:17.000 You can measure that through Spotify or Pandora or Apple Music.

01:04:21.000 I have a single out right now that came out a month ago, and it's doing really well.

01:04:27.000 It's doing really well.

01:04:28.000 What's it called?

01:04:29.000 What's it called?

01:04:29.000 It's called Ghost in My Bed.

01:04:31.000 And it's doing better than I thought it would.

01:04:33.000 I had no idea that it would be like jumping from playlist to playlist.

01:04:38.000 This is our, you know, we're doing solo projects this year. 0.98

01:04:40.000 You just didn't know how much of a fucking bad... 1.00

01:04:41.000 Shut up. 1.00

01:04:42.000 Shut up. 1.00

01:04:44.000 But I looked at, it came out June 1st. 0.99

01:04:47.000 I had like a couple hundred followers on Spotify.

01:04:50.000 And like that week I got like 10,000.

01:04:53.000 And then like the other week it was at like 37,000 followers.

01:04:58.000 It blew my mind.

01:05:00.000 I have a PR team.

01:05:04.000 You have a team?

01:05:05.000 We got a team.

01:05:06.000 I got a team, yeah, because I want to own my music. 0.99

01:05:08.000 So I hired a publicist, a distributor, and you get your manufacturing, and that's really all you need is doing the fucking work. 1.00

01:05:19.000 Isn't that crazy to own your own shit? 1.00

01:05:21.000 You got to hire a bunch of people. 1.00

01:05:22.000 Well, because record companies make you think that you need them and you don't.

01:05:27.000 Some of them are great.

01:05:28.000 What do they do now?

01:05:29.000 What's a record company good for today?

01:05:32.000 It depends. 0.99

01:05:33.000 If they're actually good at their job, they're good at fucking selling music. 0.99

01:05:36.000 Right. 0.97

01:05:36.000 But that's very rare, and that's hard to do. 0.97

01:05:38.000 For everybody.

01:05:39.000 It's a combination, though, because obviously, like, if the music's not good enough, it's not going to work.

01:05:44.000 And if it is, great.

01:05:45.000 But there's so many different, you know, it's a labyrinth of, oh, no, we're going to lose them.

01:05:52.000 Here we go.

01:05:52.000 Ben's going to be all smiles.

01:05:53.000 Ben's going deep.

01:05:54.000 Play cool.

01:05:55.000 Play cool.

01:05:55.000 You look great.

01:05:56.000 He's going to be fine.

01:05:57.000 You're so funny when you smoke weed.

01:05:59.000 Did you just say that?

01:06:00.000 Funny as in, like, fun?

01:06:02.000 Yeah!

01:06:03.000 Wait, is this a test?

01:06:05.000 I'm just saying we have it now.

01:06:06.000 It's on the internet.

01:06:07.000 You said it.

01:06:09.000 Did she say you're not funny?

01:06:10.000 Is that what goes on?

01:06:11.000 No, we have a lot of fights when Ben gets stoned.

01:06:13.000 But I also love you and want you to be happy.

01:06:16.000 That means a lot to me.

01:06:17.000 You know this is live, right?

01:06:18.000 Yeah, sure do.

01:06:20.000 Ben's mom might listen to it one day.

01:06:21.000 Who knows?

01:06:22.000 You guys are going deep with this.

01:06:24.000 No, but in terms of the record companies and releasing music, they have...

01:06:31.000 I mean, every artist is different.

01:06:33.000 Every approach is different.

01:06:34.000 But I think what's interesting is their jobs are becoming more and more obsolete because of the evolution of the industry.

01:06:43.000 But don't they try to take a piece of your music sales?

01:06:46.000 Oh, everything!

01:06:47.000 But your concert sales, they try to take a piece of...

01:06:50.000 It depends on the deal.

01:06:50.000 It depends on how much leverage you have.

01:06:51.000 But that's really common, right?

01:06:52.000 To take a piece of your concert sales?

01:06:54.000 Which seems kind of crazy, the live music.

01:06:56.000 It depends on your position, your situation.

01:06:59.000 Who was it that we had in?

01:07:00.000 What musician was it?

01:07:01.000 Oh, Everlast was explaining it.

01:07:02.000 Was he explaining it?

01:07:03.000 Shirley.

01:07:03.000 Was it Everlast?

01:07:04.000 No, Shirley from Garbage.

01:07:05.000 I listened to that, and it was incredible.

01:07:08.000 And she had a lot of really interesting points.

01:07:10.000 How cool is she? 1.00

01:07:11.000 So cool.

01:07:12.000 She might be one of the coolest people I've ever interviewed.

01:07:13.000 They're going to be here soon. 0.97

01:07:14.000 Garbage and, is it Hole? 0.98

01:07:16.000 Are performing at the Bowl? 0.99

01:07:18.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:07:19.000 Did you ever see that...

01:07:20.000 Hole at the Bowl?

01:07:21.000 The documentary that said that Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain?

01:07:23.000 I started to watch it with my mom and dad.

01:07:26.000 You feel like those ads.

01:07:28.000 It was intense.

01:07:29.000 There was a journal.

01:07:30.000 They put out Kurt Cobain's journals when I was a teenager.

01:07:33.000 They were reading the journals and I was with my parents.

01:07:33.000 And I was like, I bought the book because I was such a huge fan.

01:07:37.000 And I felt like shit. 0.99

01:07:38.000 I was like, I should not be doing this. 0.99

01:07:40.000 I don't want to read this to these journals.

01:07:42.000 That dude changed the word.

01:07:43.000 That was another one.

01:07:44.000 Like, that guy had a sound.

01:07:45.000 There was something going on, you know, when the light's out, it's less dangerous.

01:07:49.000 I mean, come on, man.

01:07:50.000 It's not the words.

01:07:51.000 I mean, there's something to the words, but it's the way he's expressing those words.

01:07:55.000 Pick her, Joe. 1.00

01:07:56.000 So, what's interesting about the icons of the decades, you know, you get the 60s, like, come...

01:08:05.000 Okay, so the 50s were...

01:08:07.000 Like, everything's perfect.

01:08:08.000 We have the cleanest music.

01:08:10.000 And we have a cookie cutter home.

01:08:13.000 And this is the wife. 0.91

01:08:14.000 And this is the husband.

01:08:15.000 And this was like the generation after World War II. Of like, everything's fine. 0.95

01:08:20.000 We're cool.

01:08:21.000 We just came back from war.

01:08:22.000 We're going to make a lot of babies, right?

01:08:24.000 Okay, the 50s.

01:08:25.000 And there's this like, total disillusionment of...

01:08:29.000 No, it was more survival, I think.

01:08:31.000 But then the 60s are people trying to feel more, and that was when psychedelics were coming in.

01:08:36.000 But the 50s was Elvis and all that stuff that was upending all those things.

01:08:39.000 But let her get through this.

01:08:41.000 He was pioneering that, though.

01:08:43.000 That was late 50s, right?

01:08:46.000 Continue.

01:08:46.000 And then going into the 60s, there's this dichotomy of the people kind of experiencing other areas of life that aren't this sanitized version of society.

01:09:00.000 And blossoming more into the 70s.

01:09:03.000 Of just harder rock.

01:09:06.000 Sonically speaking, you're going into Zeppelin and Pink Floyd and Alice Cooper.

01:09:13.000 The 80s are interesting.

01:09:15.000 The glam of the 80s, I can't really...

01:09:18.000 Help me out with the significance of what that meant to people.

01:09:22.000 I think it kind of went back to a little more of this pristine version of people and society, I feel like.

01:09:31.000 Well, let me give you the clean version of what a lot of people believe happened.

01:09:35.000 Drugs became illegal.

01:09:36.000 The 1970s sweeping Drug Legislations Act, the Schedule I Act from Richard Nixon, as soon as it became illegal to possess anything, whether it's marijuana, which was illegal for a long time, mushrooms, it was really hard to do drugs.

01:09:49.000 And you just got this massive drop-off in the creativity of music in the 80s.

01:09:54.000 Well, then that grunge was the anger that was the product of that disillusionment.

01:10:01.000 Well, they grew up with Reagan on TV. Yeah, that's fucking crazy. 1.00

01:10:04.000 And they didn't want plastic. 0.99

01:10:05.000 They just wanted everything to be flannel, and they wanted it to rain every day.

01:10:09.000 And I think people needed that.

01:10:09.000 People needed that truth.

01:10:10.000 They needed that reality and that expression of what they were- So what do we need now?

01:10:15.000 I think we need so many different things.

01:10:18.000 What the world needs now is love.

01:10:21.000 Sweet love.

01:10:22.000 We always need love.

01:10:24.000 But I think right now we're so complicated in our individual rights, but I don't know.

01:10:32.000 People need so many different things now.

01:10:34.000 You can't really say that.

01:10:36.000 I'm not saying you can't really say that.

01:10:40.000 I'm saying it's so hard to say people need love or people need this or people need education.

01:10:47.000 Because you can't really say that there's any one group of people.

01:10:53.000 There's so many groups of people.

01:10:55.000 But I do think people need to get pulled out of the spiraling of the phones and the stuff and the social media.

01:11:04.000 And I think the only things that get them out of that are real inspiration.

01:11:08.000 And I think real inspiration has...

01:11:11.000 The spectrum of that is very wide, whether it's just a folk song or it's like...

01:11:18.000 You're at a club, and it's got that whole rhythm of electronic music, and you're just with a group of people, and you're having this, like, tribal collective thing.

01:11:26.000 Cool.

01:11:27.000 I think that's why I feel like you ask what people need.

01:11:31.000 I don't know.

01:11:32.000 Everyone needs something different.

01:11:33.000 Yeah, no, you're totally right there.

01:11:34.000 And whatever that is, I think it just needs to inspire them. 0.93

01:11:37.000 Well, we just need to, as a group, recognize that we're all so fucking different. 0.61

01:11:43.000 And we've got to stop trying to fit everybody into these little packages. 0.85

01:11:47.000 Well, that's like the pronouns of...

01:11:49.000 Oh, God.

01:11:51.000 Your friend from Canada.

01:11:52.000 He was just on the podcast.

01:11:54.000 Jordan Peterson.

01:11:55.000 Yes.

01:11:55.000 Yeah.

01:11:55.000 Very interesting stuff.

01:11:57.000 Yeah.

01:11:57.000 Very interesting.

01:11:58.000 He's a fascinating guy.

01:11:59.000 Yes.

01:11:59.000 Well, you know, he's dealing with a lot of, like, really weird political correct weirdness.

01:12:03.000 This guy's a very thoughtful guy, a very well-spoken guy.

01:12:06.000 But people want you to follow their guidelines for how you should think.

01:12:12.000 Communicate and what you should accept and what you should argue against or not argue against and It becomes this weird sort of control game that goes on and that's what's happening with a lot of people in this in This nation is fine nation right now people are realizing that they have control over people so they're exerting that control almost the same way a person in power does like One of the things Abraham Lincoln said that was really brilliant,

01:12:37.000 he said, most men can overcome adversity.

01:12:40.000 I'm paraphrasing.

01:12:41.000 He said, most men can overcome adversity.

01:12:43.000 If you really want to test a man, give him success.

01:12:45.000 Right.

01:12:46.000 Which I thought was really fascinating.

01:12:48.000 For a lot of people that are in big positions of power, like the President of the United States, for a perfect example, the idea of him getting through that and not falling apart is way... 0.99

01:13:01.000 You realize what a bad motherfucker Obama was. 1.00

01:13:04.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:13:05.000 People have zero idea at how good Obama's composure was to get through that entire eight years in the White House without... 0.99

01:13:14.000 One, like, really gross misstep.

01:13:18.000 Socially, right?

01:13:19.000 He didn't have one.

01:13:22.000 I think there's a lot of people that would probably disagree with that, and I wouldn't agree with them.

01:13:27.000 But I think that kind of highlights some of the...

01:13:29.000 That's just the ideological thing, though.

01:13:30.000 They would think that, you know...

01:13:31.000 There was one thing that he said he was joking around at that White House press correspondence dinner about the Jonas Brothers and about...

01:13:39.000 He has two words for them.

01:13:40.000 I don't remember that.

01:13:42.000 It was something about drones.

01:13:44.000 What's the word?

01:13:45.000 What kind of drones do they use? 0.90

01:13:46.000 What's the big name for the drone?

01:13:48.000 There's like a name, another name for the drone.

01:13:51.000 There's like a type of drone.

01:13:53.000 Isn't there?

01:13:54.000 R2-D2? Didn't he say that to them?

01:13:55.000 To the Jonas Brothers?

01:13:59.000 Yeah, he's got like a name.

01:14:00.000 There's a name for one of the drones.

01:14:02.000 It's one of the things that he said.

01:14:02.000 And it was like, come on, man.

01:14:03.000 You've killed like 84% civilians with drones.

01:14:07.000 Or the United States has.

01:14:09.000 Like, to say, to joke around about a drone with someone who wants to date your daughter.

01:14:15.000 Come on, man.

01:14:16.000 Like, what was the...

01:14:17.000 Oh, wow, look how young he looks.

01:14:18.000 Oh, predator drones. 1.00

01:14:19.000 Send a predator after them if they were fucking... 1.00

01:14:21.000 Wow, look at him. 1.00

01:14:21.000 Look at him. 1.00

01:14:22.000 So young.

01:14:23.000 Sasha and Malia are huge fans.

01:14:25.000 2010. But boys don't get any ideas.

01:14:29.000 I have two words for you.

01:14:31.000 Predator drones.

01:14:36.000 You'll never see it coming.

01:14:37.000 He's joking around about killing people.

01:14:39.000 Do you know how many people lost their children to Predator drones while he was in office?

01:14:44.000 A lot.

01:14:45.000 Wow.

01:14:45.000 A lot.

01:14:46.000 Those things, they take... 0.83

01:14:48.000 Look, the people that are trying to kill those... 0.99

01:14:51.000 Terrorists out there and the ISIS members and all the different people that are doing horrible things like blowing up Ariana Grande concerts and all that kind of shit. 0.99

01:15:00.000 I mean, the people that are trying to stop those people have an insanely difficult job. 0.98

01:15:04.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:15:06.000 When you're shooting missiles out of robots and you're killing mostly innocent people.

01:15:13.000 It's not like close.

01:15:15.000 It's not like half and half.

01:15:16.000 Like they kill half bad guys, half good guys.

01:15:19.000 No, they kill mostly good people.

01:15:21.000 But it kind of speaks...

01:15:23.000 Oh, sorry.

01:15:23.000 It's okay.

01:15:24.000 It speaks more to the position of the president as being a tough fucking job. 0.99

01:15:28.000 Well, in the face of it. 0.99

01:15:29.000 Because you can't be a comedian. 0.98

01:15:31.000 And a comedian can say whatever the fuck, and it's fine because you're a comedian or whatever. 0.99

01:15:35.000 I would have had better delivery than that. 0.99

01:15:36.000 But sure, I know.

01:15:37.000 It needs a little work.

01:15:38.000 Of course.

01:15:38.000 I'm imagining it right now.

01:15:39.000 See it coming?

01:15:41.000 A mile away?

01:15:42.000 I got two words for you.

01:15:43.000 Oh, they're gonna be funny words.

01:15:47.000 You know, it's just joking around about something that's, uh, it's dark.

01:15:51.000 You know, it's like, you'll never see it coming.

01:15:53.000 Ha ha ha.

01:15:54.000 Like a lot of those people that died.

01:15:55.000 Thousands. 0.99

01:15:56.000 That's kind of fucked up. 1.00

01:15:57.000 If you were living in a country Where Obama was the guy who made the call and the missiles came from the drones and killed your dad. 1.00

01:16:07.000 And you have to watch him joke around about shooting missiles at some kids who want to fuck your pretty daughters. 1.00

01:16:13.000 Whoa. 1.00

01:16:14.000 You know, that's...

01:16:16.000 We don't look at it that way because we're over here.

01:16:18.000 But how can we?

01:16:19.000 How can you process that level of, I don't know, variety? 0.99

01:16:25.000 That's a shitty word for it, but there's so much shit going on. 0.95

01:16:28.000 This is why all the social media is happening because along with being a distraction and a problem, it's also helping us cope with the degree of the world. 0.98

01:16:36.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

01:16:37.000 There's so many fucking people. 0.99

01:16:39.000 How... 1.00

01:16:40.000 How could you ever be sensitive to the entire situation while being an authentic person?

01:16:48.000 Does that make sense?

01:16:49.000 Yeah, but I think this is what we were talking about earlier of like trying to I mean at the fucking smallest level of like learn how to apologize but learn learn how to be different from each other and also work together and know that like we have different speeds and different beliefs and You know have compassion And I think that's where it's really crazy to have so much exposure to the global events and become desensitized to

01:17:19.000 them because there's so much stuff that eventually you can't compute, you can't process it.

01:17:25.000 Obviously, there's no excuse for making jokes about drones and killing people.

01:17:30.000 He probably didn't realize it.

01:17:30.000 He had to make some jokes and somebody wrote that for him.

01:17:33.000 But no, you're totally right.

01:17:34.000 There's too much information.

01:17:36.000 You're getting news from 7 billion people.

01:17:37.000 And we're putting it on one man. 0.75

01:17:40.000 Crazy. 0.99

01:17:41.000 He is not just one man, but he is... 0.87

01:17:44.000 A group of people working together, but he has to speak for everyone.

01:17:48.000 And so does Trump, and so does whoever is president.

01:17:52.000 And that's what's really interesting, is that I think what has happened now with the election of Trump is that people are becoming so much more aware that there's an entire cabinet and Congress, and the people that we elect, that we choose, are going to be part of that entire team.

01:18:10.000 And it's really...

01:18:13.000 It's focusing people on politics in a way it never has before.

01:18:15.000 That's the good thing.

01:18:16.000 Yeah, it is.

01:18:17.000 You get to see corruption in a weird way, like a real transparent way.

01:18:21.000 But, speaking of corruption, and I talked to you about this guy about Represent Us, and it's this organization that I went to this meeting and was really informed for the first time.

01:18:33.000 I'd never really understood how people in Congress kind of came to be these, you know, runners in these elections, whereas It costs $40,000 to $60,000 a day to run for Congress That's insane.

01:18:48.000 And that is legal.

01:18:49.000 That's not illegal.

01:18:50.000 That's so crazy.

01:18:51.000 And Josh Silver, I talked to you about him a little bit, started this organization, and they're working on anti-corruption bills so that anybody can run an incredibly over-accomplished, over-qualified person from,

01:19:10.000 say, Columbia or Harvard or wherever in the world or in the States.

01:19:15.000 Who we elected.

01:19:16.000 Whereas these people that cost that much money to run, they're controlled by the Koch brothers and all the major oil industries.

01:19:24.000 What do they spend the money on if it costs that much a day?

01:19:27.000 That's just the game. 0.99

01:19:29.000 Transportation, advertisement, promotion, staff, all this shit. 0.99

01:19:33.000 And you don't qualify if you don't play that game. 0.99

01:19:35.000 But here's the thing.

01:19:36.000 You can qualify.

01:19:37.000 If you ran for Senate or something, you wouldn't be spending $60,000 a day.

01:19:41.000 You know what I mean?

01:19:42.000 That's what's interesting, right?

01:19:44.000 Because you have a platform already.

01:19:46.000 And people have platforms in the world.

01:19:48.000 That's Donald Trump.

01:19:49.000 Did you know that when you have a platform, you're running for something?

01:19:52.000 Like Stanhope was running for president for a while.

01:19:54.000 We had a friend that ran for president.

01:19:56.000 What he found while he was running for president is that he couldn't do stand-up shows anymore.

01:20:02.000 Because if he was going to do something on stage, if it was like a public forum where people were coming to see him, he would have to allot time for his opponents.

01:20:13.000 And I was like, what?

01:20:14.000 And he's like, yeah.

01:20:15.000 He goes, it's a crazy scam.

01:20:17.000 It's like, you can't.

01:20:17.000 Rules of the game.

01:20:18.000 Yeah.

01:20:18.000 There's a lot of weird, freaky, old-school rules back when people would stand on a soapbox and scream out to a large group of people.

01:20:27.000 Those rules still apply.

01:20:28.000 Crazy. 0.99

01:20:29.000 But the thing is, you can still, if you have 10 million people being like, that's a stupid rule, or however many it takes, it'll change. 0.98

01:20:38.000 Maybe, but look, it's still federally illegal to smoke marijuana. 0.95

01:20:41.000 There's no reason why.

01:20:43.000 We did, but it's state legal.

01:20:45.000 But federally, it's still illegal.

01:20:47.000 So it's not as simple as...

01:20:47.000 So am I driving?

01:20:49.000 It's not as simple as like 10 million people can say they don't want it anymore.

01:20:54.000 You're totally right.

01:20:54.000 And that's the same thing, what's going to go on with our political system.

01:20:58.000 It's like, yeah, it needs an overhaul.

01:20:59.000 Yeah, it needs to be changed.

01:21:00.000 It needs to be updated for the internet and the 2017 world that we live in.

01:21:04.000 And we need to figure out a better way to do it. 0.99

01:21:06.000 We don't need the same sort of representative government that we always needed when you had to take a message from a fucking horse... 0.97

01:21:12.000 The thing is, if you want that to change from the ground up, you're asking the people that are currently in office to bet against themselves. 0.98

01:21:23.000 To say, hey, let's make it illegal.

01:21:25.000 You're asking them to behave as citizens is what you're asking.

01:21:28.000 You're asking them to stop thinking that they're better or different than us.

01:21:32.000 And that's where it becomes unfathomable.

01:21:34.000 Well, they have to.

01:21:34.000 How is this possible?

01:21:35.000 They have to.

01:21:36.000 Just like everybody else has to.

01:21:37.000 We all have to realize that we're all the same thing.

01:21:40.000 And there's no kings anymore, and there should be.

01:21:43.000 I mean, Edward Snowden tweeted this the other day, that people couldn't, at one point in time, couldn't imagine the idea that one day there'd be no kings.

01:21:50.000 And they're going to say that, the same thing, about presidents one day.

01:21:53.000 It's for sure going to happen.

01:21:54.000 The presidents or whoever runs for Congress or Senate, they have to come to an understanding that they are no different than us.

01:22:01.000 And just because they're in positions of power, they're not different.

01:22:05.000 We're all just people.

01:22:06.000 And that if you have extra power over people and you utilize it, you should be ashamed of yourself.

01:22:12.000 You should feel horrible.

01:22:13.000 Did you guys hear what Chris Christie did?

01:22:15.000 The beach thing?

01:22:16.000 He closed down the beaches in New Jersey and then vacationed on the beaches with his family.

01:22:21.000 They closed him down due to budget cuts.

01:22:22.000 He should have put a shirt on.

01:22:23.000 He did have a shirt on.

01:22:24.000 He had a shirt on.

01:22:25.000 Is that what that was?

01:22:26.000 But he lied.

01:22:26.000 But he got caught, though, which is interesting.

01:22:28.000 He got caught lying.

01:22:29.000 They asked him, did you get any sun?

01:22:30.000 He said, no, I didn't get any sun.

01:22:31.000 Then the pictures came out.

01:22:33.000 And he's like, they said, oh, Mr. Christie had a baseball hat on, so he didn't get any sun.

01:22:38.000 I'm like, no, that's not a loophole.

01:22:39.000 You were lying.

01:22:40.000 You're still in the sun.

01:22:41.000 You're not in a house. 1.00

01:22:42.000 If you're not in a house, you're getting sun, you fucking asshole. 1.00

01:22:44.000 This is that whole play on words bullshit that's happening in the media where it's like, People are, you know, you don't, they just, you know, circumvent around the truth or whatever they're trying to say with just stupid rhetoric. 1.00

01:22:58.000 It's so annoying. 1.00

01:22:59.000 I fucking hate it. 0.98

01:23:00.000 It's changing. 0.99

01:23:01.000 It's got, and I don't know.

01:23:02.000 How is it changing, Ben?

01:23:03.000 It's changing because if this was 60 years ago, that news wouldn't have gotten out or there would have been ways to just like...

01:23:09.000 Crush that.

01:23:09.000 And there still are.

01:23:10.000 That's so true, though.

01:23:11.000 You're right.

01:23:12.000 It's definitely changing.

01:23:13.000 Yeah, there's kind of a leeway.

01:23:15.000 Too many iPhones to hide that stuff.

01:23:17.000 Not just that.

01:23:18.000 I mean, look what you're doing right now.

01:23:19.000 You're talking to millions of people.

01:23:21.000 I guess.

01:23:21.000 Oh, God.

01:23:22.000 Don't tell me that.

01:23:24.000 You're saying it to millions of people, and then millions of people are going to have similar conversations because of that.

01:23:29.000 When you hear something interesting that someone talks about, you start talking about, hey, I heard this interesting conversation, really made me think about something.

01:23:35.000 And then that just wasn't even available 10 years ago.

01:23:39.000 It wasn't available 20 years ago.

01:23:41.000 Like, all of the social media stuff, all of the, whether it's YouTube, YouTube videos that people can make, or podcasts that people can make, or whatever the fuck it is, or blogs that people can write.

01:23:53.000 All of it is just information.

01:23:55.000 And that flow of information has never been greater. 0.99

01:23:58.000 It is an unstoppable river now, you know, to the point where that's why that baked Alaska dude was laughing like the fucking president jumped into the river. 1.00

01:24:07.000 Like, he's in the crazy river, putting up memes and talking shit about people, joking around about some lady having a fucking plastic surgery. 0.99

01:24:15.000 She had, like, a facelift, and he said she was bleeding. 0.99

01:24:18.000 Like, do you believe that?

01:24:19.000 Do you believe that the president is saying that?

01:24:21.000 It's like, wow!

01:24:22.000 Well, this is like, what's that movie, that movie, um, uh, with Luke Wilson and, um...

01:24:28.000 Idiocracy. 0.76

01:24:29.000 Idiocracy.

01:24:30.000 It's, it's happening.

01:24:31.000 It is really happening.

01:24:33.000 Well, it's for sure a bad system that no one wants to join in. 0.98

01:24:36.000 Like, if you're Elon Musk, why the fuck would you want to be president? 0.99

01:24:39.000 You can bang supermodels and build rocket ships. 0.99

01:24:41.000 Boom, boom.

01:24:41.000 You know about our car?

01:24:43.000 Do you know the funny story about our touring vehicle?

01:24:46.000 I do not.

01:24:46.000 Oh, it's great.

01:24:47.000 Drop it.

01:24:47.000 So, oh my god, Ben, is it three years ago?

01:24:50.000 Yeah.

01:24:51.000 2015. 2015. So in spring of 2015, we thought it would be, this is when we put Punk Kid up for donations so we could buy a car, so we could tour, and we didn't want to buy a van because that's annoying.

01:25:04.000 Who wants a van?

01:25:05.000 And we ended up, we were looking at SUVs, and we found a Cadillac Escalade 2007. Suze decided to start.

01:25:14.000 Well, they're all the same car.

01:25:15.000 P.S. Ford Expeditions, Escalades, Navigators, whatever the year.

01:25:20.000 They're the same structure, just different clothes.

01:25:24.000 And there was a great deal on a Cadillac Escalade.

01:25:27.000 And we had a lot of touring in front of us.

01:25:32.000 And we bought it.

01:25:34.000 And we were, we bought it with 60,000 miles on it.

01:25:36.000 And it was in mint condition, which was really strange.

01:25:39.000 And like the, you know, used car salesman's like, yeah, there's clearly no kids in the backseat.

01:25:43.000 There's no Cheerios stuck between the seats.

01:25:45.000 And so we ended up buying this car.

01:25:48.000 And we were looking through the user manual to like, what does this button do?

01:25:53.000 And the former owner registration fell out, swear to God, Elon Musk.

01:25:59.000 And Ben had this great idea.

01:26:01.000 Ben had this great idea to get him to design a Tescalade for better economical touring.

01:26:08.000 But to put it into perspective, though, we bought it with 60,000 miles and now it has like 160,000 miles on it.

01:26:14.000 And that was just about a little over two years ago. 0.90

01:26:17.000 Have you seen that shit he's going to do in California where he bores holes under Los Angeles and makes tunnels and you ride on a sled through the tunnel? 0.97

01:26:25.000 I heard about this, but I heard about this briefly, actually. 0.99

01:26:28.000 Yeah, you drop down into this tunnel and you don't drive your car.

01:26:32.000 Wait, this is like Tron.

01:26:32.000 Wait, but why do you do that?

01:26:34.000 Jamie will pull it up and you can see it.

01:26:36.000 So watch what happens.

01:26:37.000 Jamie's so fast, dude.

01:26:38.000 You pull up to this thing.

01:26:39.000 How do you do this, Jamie?

01:26:39.000 He's a wizard.

01:26:40.000 You pull up to this thing, and it drops you down.

01:26:43.000 Drops your car?

01:26:44.000 Yeah, it drops you down.

01:26:46.000 You get in the queue, and you drop down, and then you get on a sled.

01:26:49.000 Your car's on a sled, so you're not driving anymore.

01:26:51.000 And your car could be on a solar-powered sled, too, by the way, with all the power we have in LA from the sun.

01:26:57.000 I mean, it never stops being sunny out.

01:26:59.000 If they wanted to make these giant solar banks to power this thing, I bet they could.

01:27:02.000 But there's a video of it, like the idea of it, the animated version of it.

01:27:06.000 So, of course, everyone in the street is driving a Tesla.

01:27:08.000 There's nothing but Tesla.

01:27:09.000 Tesla's.

01:27:09.000 I mean, Jesus Christ.

01:27:11.000 That's hilarious. 0.99

01:27:11.000 And old, rotten, shitty cars from the 60s. 0.99

01:27:13.000 You have to pay more to get on the sled? 0.99

01:27:15.000 I'm sure.

01:27:16.000 To be the elite? 0.99

01:27:16.000 Yeah, otherwise you're one of those twats. 0.99

01:27:18.000 Super traffickers? 0.99

01:27:19.000 What?

01:27:19.000 So watch this.

01:27:20.000 You drop down, and then once you drop down, you are in these tunnels that he's building that are totally earthquake-proof.

01:27:26.000 Don't worry.

01:27:27.000 When they fill up with water and kill you and your family, don't sweat it.

01:27:36.000 Make sure you have your go bag ready.

01:27:38.000 I'm a fan of this.

01:27:39.000 And your oxygen mask.

01:27:40.000 This is like premium access freeways. 1.00

01:27:42.000 I just need everybody to understand that when the 1,000 foot waves come, you will not survive in these fucking tubes. 0.99

01:27:48.000 They will fill up with water and you will drown. 0.99

01:27:52.000 Joe, I'm so scared.

01:27:54.000 Most likely that tsunami's not coming.

01:27:56.000 But if and when.

01:27:57.000 This is insane.

01:27:58.000 That's a wrap.

01:27:59.000 A lot of thumbs down.

01:28:00.000 Yeah, because people are freaking out about the ocean. 0.99

01:28:03.000 We're right next to the fucking ocean and the ground moves. 0.99

01:28:05.000 Okay? 0.99

01:28:07.000 We should be flying, Elon!

01:28:10.000 Flying cars! 0.99

01:28:12.000 Where's your goddamn hovercraft? 0.99

01:28:13.000 We're going to do it on Mars, dude. 0.99

01:28:14.000 They fly in cars that have batteries in the front so they can't hit each other, so they, like, repel.

01:28:19.000 Well, I watch bumper cars.

01:28:21.000 Well, repel.

01:28:21.000 You don't want to bump, dude.

01:28:22.000 You want to repel.

01:28:23.000 Like, two magnets.

01:28:24.000 Ben, don't bump.

01:28:25.000 Repel.

01:28:25.000 Jesus, man.

01:28:26.000 Magnets.

01:28:27.000 I watched this vice.

01:28:27.000 Hold on, I'm writing that down.

01:28:28.000 I watched this vice last night that scared the Jesus out of me.

01:28:32.000 What was it?

01:28:33.000 And it was, um, they were showing just...

01:28:37.000 You know, technological intelligence to overtake cars and control the computers in the cars.

01:28:43.000 Yeah.

01:28:44.000 And it was crazy.

01:28:45.000 It was just like hacking. 1.00

01:28:47.000 Hacking into any kind of car and I'm gonna shut you down and run you off this cliff or I'm gonna, you know, fuck with you and make your windows go up and down. 1.00

01:28:56.000 It's crazy. 1.00

01:28:57.000 I mean, I don't want to be scared. 0.95

01:28:59.000 I don't want to live with like, oh God, and I try not to, but that's fucking crazy. 1.00

01:29:05.000 Fucking crazy. 0.99

01:29:06.000 You know that journalist, they think the big conspiracy theory is that he was killed because they overtook the controls of his car and slammed him into a tree and made him go 120 miles an hour. 1.00

01:29:15.000 What?

01:29:15.000 What was his name?

01:29:16.000 Michael...

01:29:17.000 He was a famous journalist who wrote a story in the Rolling Stones about a general.

01:29:22.000 And it was...

01:29:23.000 He was embedded with them.

01:29:25.000 I believe it was in Iraq.

01:29:26.000 It might have been Afghanistan.

01:29:27.000 And he was...

01:29:28.000 Was it Petraeus?

01:29:29.000 No, no.

01:29:30.000 It wasn't about Petraeus.

01:29:31.000 It was another general.

01:29:33.000 No, no, it was a different general.

01:29:35.000 Michael Hastings was his name.

01:29:36.000 Michael Hastings, thank you.

01:29:38.000 Yeah!

01:29:38.000 So he wrote this article about this general and the general had to step down because the general was joking around about Obama or something like that and there was just like some, he got a little loose.

01:29:51.000 What is this?

01:29:52.000 There's a close sitting footage?

01:29:53.000 I don't think I want one.

01:29:55.000 So this, apparently, they tried to say that he committed suicide.

01:29:59.000 And some people believe he did commit suicide. 0.99

01:30:01.000 And some people believe, so he's just flying down and just slams into a tree and his fucking car blows up. 0.98

01:30:09.000 Here's the thing though, and this is like in the interest of full disclosure, they apparently said that they found amphetamines on him, on his body, right? 0.93

01:30:20.000 So that could mean that he was under the influence of amphetamines when it happened, or it could mean that he takes Adderall, because a lot of journalists take Adderall. 0.93

01:30:30.000 So if they found it in his system, it doesn't necessarily mean he was speeded up when he was driving like a fucking maniac because he was off the rails. 0.87

01:30:36.000 It could just easily have meant that he uses Adderall to get his workload done, which a shitload of journalists do.

01:30:42.000 So it might not have meant anything.

01:30:44.000 And we talked to people that are experts.

01:30:46.000 Boy, people that are experts that weigh in on conspiracy car crash evidence, they're weirdos.

01:30:51.000 It's hard to find, like, who's right and who's wrong.

01:30:53.000 But some people said that the way the car had separated, the way the engine had exploded and launched itself from the car indicates some sort of an explosion, more it does an impact.

01:31:06.000 You know, because it just all, you know, hit the tree and blew up all at once. 0.99

01:31:11.000 But again, could be bullshit. 0.99

01:31:12.000 But it is fucked up because the guy wrote a very, he wrote a very scathing article about this general and it made the general retire. 1.00

01:31:20.000 And I know that guy got a shit tone of death threats. 0.99

01:31:22.000 And he was telling everybody that if somebody kills me, like be sure that I didn't kill myself. 1.00

01:31:30.000 Fuck! 1.00

01:31:30.000 That's crazy. 1.00

01:31:31.000 They can take over your car because your car's a computer.

01:31:33.000 Your car, a lot of cars today, are connected to the internet through Wi-Fi.

01:31:37.000 A lot of cars.

01:31:39.000 Like, they have their own Wi-Fi hub.

01:31:41.000 Like, you buy a new Escalade, it comes with a Wi-Fi hub, so all the people in the car can play on their iPads or whatever while you're driving.

01:31:48.000 You link up to the internet that's on the actual car itself.

01:31:53.000 That's a computer.

01:31:54.000 It's a computer.

01:31:55.000 It's connected to the net.

01:31:57.000 You drive it around.

01:31:58.000 You know?

01:31:59.000 Somebody just gets in there I mean, there's no bounds at this point.

01:32:06.000 There's no bounds.

01:32:08.000 There's no bounds.

01:32:09.000 How can you keep things organized probably isn't the right way, but how do you keep us all alive without surrendering personal freedom?

01:32:20.000 Like, boom, boom.

01:32:20.000 Like, we kind of have a crazy...

01:32:22.000 What's going on?

01:32:23.000 That's a very good question.

01:32:24.000 This ladder stopped working on it.

01:32:26.000 Let's see what the deal was.

01:32:27.000 Yeah, we don't have to talk about that.

01:32:29.000 You know, you don't...

01:32:32.000 You don't really have an answer to that question, because we don't even know what they could really do right now.

01:32:36.000 Well, especially if part of the important thing we need to accept is that we're all the same thing, then we have to accept that we all have to start acting like the same thing at the same time, right?

01:32:47.000 That's a very good point, but it gets lost when you start talking about people that are in the military and that are dealing with national emergencies or national security situations.

01:33:00.000 You make a general retire because you chose...

01:33:26.000 But these things are happening They're happening interdependently and also completely enmeshed.

01:33:33.000 Like, you can't enmesh the way that all these things, technology, blah, blah, blah, is developing.

01:33:39.000 But there's no way this dude, they can control that much.

01:33:43.000 There's no way people can control...

01:33:45.000 Where this is going and by this I mean everything to that degree.

01:33:49.000 So you just have to right deal with all these new Phenomenon that are happening.

01:33:55.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.

01:33:56.000 Look at this This is the article the runaway general the profile that brought down McChrystal Rolling Stone profile of Stanley McChrystal that changed history.

01:34:05.000 That's crazy that one article can get a general fired Change history.

01:34:11.000 And it's crazy the guy who wrote it is dead. 1.00

01:34:14.000 Dead as fuck. 1.00

01:34:15.000 And they think dead from a crazy conspiracy. 1.00

01:34:17.000 Michael Hastings. 1.00

01:34:19.000 You know, who the fuck knows? 0.99

01:34:21.000 But boy does it get exciting. 0.99

01:34:22.000 What's in the right corner?

01:34:24.000 Is that something about...

01:34:25.000 Brad Pitt.

01:34:25.000 Wow.

01:34:28.000 So he's playing the general in this movie?

01:34:31.000 He's playing a runaway general.

01:34:35.000 There's this Netflix movie called War Machine.

01:34:36.000 Movie based on Rolling Stone reporter Michael Hastings.

01:34:39.000 Wow, they're doing a movie based on that thing happening.

01:34:43.000 That's crazy.

01:34:44.000 Oh, it's already out, yeah.

01:34:45.000 Is it?

01:34:46.000 Yeah, it's on Netflix now. 0.98

01:34:47.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.98

01:34:47.000 I didn't know that's what it was about. 0.98

01:34:48.000 It's a Netflix movie?

01:34:49.000 Yeah.

01:34:50.000 Dude, Netflix almost has too much content.

01:34:54.000 It's overwhelming.

01:34:56.000 It's overwhelming.

01:34:56.000 And it's funny because there's so much content that the quality is not that great.

01:35:01.000 So you get some shows and like this weekend I had this like 25 minutes in.

01:35:08.000 No. 0.96

01:35:08.000 I just couldn't fucking land on anything. 0.96

01:35:10.000 What were you trying to land on? 0.98

01:35:12.000 Something with substance and just more thought.

01:35:20.000 And I ended up watching Harry Potter Goblet of Fire and I was so happy with my choice.

01:35:25.000 It's like you found what you were looking for.

01:35:27.000 Let me tell you something.

01:35:28.000 I just started reading Harry Potter.

01:35:31.000 Let's leap to that.

01:35:33.000 Jesus Christ.

01:35:35.000 Harry Potter is an important figure, dude.

01:35:38.000 We can't ignore it. 0.53

01:35:39.000 And let's be honest, there's a lot of parallels to the wizarding world and our fucking weird world and politics. 0.60

01:35:45.000 There's politics in the wizarding world as well. 0.92

01:35:47.000 Word.

01:35:47.000 Do you do magic?

01:35:48.000 Did you guys ever go to the Harry Potter ride at Universal?

01:35:51.000 No, not yet.

01:35:51.000 I haven't finished.

01:35:52.000 I'm a book and a half.

01:35:55.000 From finishing, so I don't know what happens. 0.99

01:35:57.000 Don't fuck it up for me. 0.97

01:35:59.000 No, the ride. 0.98

01:36:00.000 I'm talking about the ride at Universal.

01:36:01.000 Yeah, but I don't want to entertain. 0.99

01:36:03.000 Do you really think I know the plot to any of those fucking books? 0.98

01:36:06.000 I feel like you do and you're just plain cool. 0.99

01:36:07.000 Let us tell you, Joe.

01:36:08.000 Here we go.

01:36:10.000 Let's act this out.

01:36:13.000 So it's not decided who's driving.

01:36:15.000 There's more in the back, too.

01:36:16.000 Oh, I'll drive.

01:36:17.000 Here, give it to me. 0.99

01:36:18.000 I don't give a shit. 0.99

01:36:19.000 Do you have any protein bars? 0.99

01:36:21.000 Yes, yes.

01:36:21.000 Plenty of protein bars.

01:36:23.000 We're going to be fine.

01:36:24.000 Just always Uber.

01:36:25.000 Worry not, my friends.

01:36:27.000 We'll get through this with a steady hand.

01:36:30.000 There's no concern. 1.00

01:36:31.000 But the Harry Potter ride at Universal is the shit. 0.99

01:36:34.000 It's really fun. 1.00

01:36:35.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.97

01:36:37.000 You've been there. 0.99

01:36:38.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:36:38.000 It's fun.

01:36:39.000 It's really fun.

01:36:40.000 Does it feel...

01:36:41.000 I was telling you about this.

01:36:43.000 Maybe it's the same thing.

01:36:44.000 Don't you get on a broom and it feels like you're flying?

01:36:46.000 It's not a broom.

01:36:47.000 You're sitting in a chair, but you're flying around.

01:36:50.000 Yeah, like you kind of would be if you were in a broom.

01:36:53.000 Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on. 0.99

01:36:54.000 There's dragons and shit. 0.96

01:36:55.000 It's fun. 0.99

01:36:56.000 Oh my god.

01:36:57.000 It's a really good ride.

01:36:57.000 It's really well made.

01:36:59.000 You don't understand.

01:37:00.000 I was a Harry Potter late bloomer, okay?

01:37:04.000 I was all Lord of the Rings.

01:37:05.000 I read Dune.

01:37:06.000 I love Dune.

01:37:07.000 You know, I'm a total nerd.

01:37:09.000 And...

01:37:10.000 I didn't read Harry Potter and Ben really encouraged me this past year and he got me The Sorcerer's Stone, which is the first book.

01:37:18.000 And I just can't stop.

01:37:21.000 But you don't have to.

01:37:24.000 It's amazing.

01:37:25.000 I can't tell you how much joy it's brought me as an adult.

01:37:32.000 Here's the thing.

01:37:34.000 I feel like I have an affinity for fighting darkness just in myself.

01:37:39.000 Why? 0.99

01:37:40.000 Because I'm fucking dark. 0.99

01:37:42.000 But I'm also very light. 0.99

01:37:44.000 So, you know, as such is life.

01:37:47.000 And it's...

01:37:47.000 Yeah, here we go.

01:37:49.000 You're going in.

01:37:49.000 Yeah, I'm going in.

01:37:51.000 But I... For the folks listening at home, they both make digging emotions.

01:37:55.000 One of the last books.

01:37:55.000 The last books.

01:37:56.000 The last book was The Order of the Phoenix, which is very political because there's a political presence, there's a government within the wizarding community, and it was just really interesting to be reading that while also watching our local news and our global news.

01:38:13.000 It's all part of the same story in terms of manipulation and what we...

01:38:21.000 Interpret as truth.

01:38:23.000 And it was just an interesting experience to read that book and then to listen to my favorite podcasts and news outlets and be like, this isn't any different than Harry Potter.

01:38:36.000 It's all based on the familiarity of problems in human nature, right?

01:38:41.000 Sure.

01:38:42.000 It's all based on good and evil and fuck-ups and ego and power and control and battles. 0.98

01:38:47.000 Sure. 0.98

01:38:48.000 Correction.

01:38:49.000 Value of J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter business is worth $25 billion.

01:38:54.000 Whoa.

01:38:55.000 Cool.

01:38:56.000 That seems like a lot.

01:38:57.000 How do you get a piece of that?

01:39:00.000 That's a lot.

01:39:01.000 That's a lot.

01:39:03.000 She's rolling.

01:39:04.000 How do you think she's willing to get married? 0.99

01:39:07.000 How does that work?

01:39:09.000 No, I should save the joke.

01:39:10.000 You got a joke?

01:39:11.000 No, I'm going to save the joke.

01:39:12.000 You guys know this is live, right?

01:39:16.000 Don't argue over saving jokes. 1.00

01:39:18.000 Just say the fucking joke. 1.00

01:39:19.000 Boom. 1.00

01:39:21.000 This better be good.

01:39:22.000 Oh my god.

01:39:23.000 She's doing it.

01:39:25.000 We hotboxed her.

01:39:25.000 She didn't even smoke.

01:39:27.000 Oh, I can't.

01:39:28.000 Okay.

01:39:28.000 Don't do it.

01:39:29.000 It's not my joke.

01:39:30.000 Let's just pull out of this.

01:39:31.000 It's not my joke.

01:39:32.000 We're about to hit the ocean.

01:39:35.000 How did Harry Potter get down the hill?

01:39:37.000 How?

01:39:37.000 Walking.

01:39:39.000 JK Rowling.

01:39:41.000 Solid!

01:39:42.000 I don't understand it.

01:39:44.000 It's okay.

01:39:45.000 It's not my joke.

01:39:46.000 I didn't come up with it.

01:39:47.000 I heard a second hand.

01:39:48.000 It's like a third hand.

01:39:48.000 J.K. Rowling is the punchline.

01:39:50.000 And also the author of the famous Harry Potter books.

01:39:53.000 See, I knew this was a bad idea.

01:39:55.000 Nope, it's over.

01:39:56.000 This is a little rough delivery.

01:39:59.000 You say, walking.

01:40:00.000 J.K. Rowling.

01:40:03.000 Don't put this on me, Laura.

01:40:05.000 Oh my god.

01:40:06.000 J.K. meaning just kidding?

01:40:09.000 JK Rowling.

01:40:10.000 It's okay.

01:40:11.000 It's okay.

01:40:12.000 I'm starting to like it better now.

01:40:14.000 I'm just so glad you told that on Joe's podcast.

01:40:17.000 Dad jokes. 1.00

01:40:17.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:40:18.000 I love dad jokes. 1.00

01:40:19.000 I love stupid jokes. 1.00

01:40:20.000 Get at me. 1.00

01:40:21.000 She's owning it.

01:40:23.000 She's owning it.

01:40:25.000 I made a plan.

01:40:26.000 Thank God. 0.99

01:40:27.000 Hey, tell me about this fucking crazy guitar you guys have that somebody gave you. 0.99

01:40:31.000 Oh, the National. 0.99

01:40:33.000 What happened?

01:40:33.000 It's outside.

01:40:34.000 What happened with that guitar?

01:40:36.000 That thing's insane. 0.99

01:40:37.000 It's a beautiful guitar.

01:40:39.000 There's a company called National.

01:40:41.000 That thing is insane looking. 0.73

01:40:43.000 They gave us one.

01:40:45.000 Well, I think they like us, but they also like you.

01:40:48.000 That was a part of it.

01:40:48.000 We have to admit that.

01:40:49.000 Thank you, Joe.

01:40:50.000 I didn't do anything.

01:40:52.000 Thank you, them.

01:40:53.000 That's a crazy-looking guitar.

01:40:54.000 That's not a normal guitar.

01:40:56.000 Yeah, it's a resonator, so it has...

01:40:56.000 I can't actually remember.

01:40:58.000 I think it has tricone resonators.

01:41:00.000 Go grab that thing. 1.00

01:41:01.000 Show me the thing.

01:41:01.000 You want to hear some music?

01:41:03.000 Is that what you're getting at?

01:41:03.000 No, no.

01:41:04.000 I want to see that guitar.

01:41:06.000 That's it right there, right?

01:41:07.000 That's closer to it.

01:41:07.000 No, that's not it, but it's close.

01:41:09.000 Pioneer?

01:41:09.000 Is that it, Ben?

01:41:10.000 No, that's not the one.

01:41:11.000 Now, I thought a guitar had to be made out of wood.

01:41:14.000 No!

01:41:15.000 I mean, well, this is technically...

01:41:18.000 Well, it's a different kind of guitar.

01:41:21.000 Some call them Dobros.

01:41:22.000 I'm definitely not claiming any guitar knowledge.

01:41:24.000 So there's a cone inside of...

01:41:26.000 I feel like I want Ben here so I don't book this up.

01:41:28.000 But there's a resonator inside, like a speaker, inside of...

01:41:34.000 See how there's all this kind of mesh?

01:41:37.000 Will you go back up?

01:41:39.000 That one, yeah.

01:41:40.000 Oh, okay.

01:41:41.000 That's like a built-in speaker, and you can plug them in so they're electric.

01:41:44.000 So it's a speaker like a car speaker, like a stereo speaker?

01:41:49.000 Not necessarily, no.

01:41:51.000 So it's electronic?

01:41:52.000 Without electronics, there's a cone inside that the sound resonates louder, like a banjo kind of a little bit.

01:42:00.000 Oh, okay.

01:42:02.000 So it's not like a stereo speaker, like a Bluetooth speaker.

01:42:06.000 It's not powered.

01:42:08.000 Well, Jamie's an actual audio engineer.

01:42:10.000 It's not powered.

01:42:11.000 But it has a specific tone to it that isn't like your regular acoustic or electric guitar.

01:42:17.000 And when you plug it in, it sounds amazing.

01:42:19.000 And it has sort of like a down-homey vibe, and it's beautiful.

01:42:23.000 Down-homey vibe.

01:42:24.000 Isn't that interesting?

01:42:25.000 Mm-hmm.

01:42:27.000 Down homey vibe.

01:42:29.000 Like, down homey music.

01:42:31.000 Like, acoustic music is like down homey music, right?

01:42:35.000 Well, um, yeah.

01:42:37.000 I mean, folk music and soul music are down home.

01:42:41.000 Resonator for guitar, cover plate for biscuit bridge.

01:42:45.000 Ben, I might have butchered the whole explanation of what a national is, and I really hope that you can help me.

01:42:50.000 She nailed it.

01:42:50.000 Okay, so is there any wood on that?

01:42:52.000 Is the back of that thing wood?

01:42:53.000 The fretboard's wood, and the headstock and the neck.

01:42:55.000 I'm gonna pee.

01:42:56.000 But the body's metal.

01:42:58.000 That thing's insane looking, man.

01:43:01.000 And so what kind of a different sound does this thing make than a regular guitar?

01:43:08.000 Wow.

01:43:12.000 So it's just a lot louder, it cuts a lot more, it's more resonant.

01:43:17.000 It's got a metal sound to it.

01:43:19.000 Yeah, sure.

01:43:20.000 Ooh.

01:43:22.000 So one, if I had a slide, these things are great for playing slide with.

01:43:28.000 Because...

01:43:29.000 Jamie's got something.

01:43:30.000 What do you got?

01:43:31.000 A lighter? 0.97

01:43:31.000 I'll probably fuck that up. 0.97

01:43:33.000 But you can kind of...

01:43:34.000 You want a round one or a flat one?

01:43:37.000 But you can kind of hear it, maybe.

01:43:40.000 Ooh. 0.99

01:43:41.000 Yeah, I sound like shit, but you know what I mean. 1.00

01:43:43.000 Some old school blues shit. 1.00

01:43:45.000 What is that there? 1.00

01:43:45.000 Exactly. 1.00

01:43:46.000 Cigar.

01:43:47.000 Cigar.

01:43:48.000 Try that round cigar thing.

01:43:50.000 Cohiba.

01:43:52.000 Ooh. 1.00

01:43:56.000 Whenever I hear that kind of shit, I think of like, oh, blues. 1.00

01:44:00.000 Yeah, because all that Robert Johnson stuff, he's playing slot. 1.00

01:44:04.000 All that.

01:44:04.000 He probably didn't have a resonator, though.

01:44:06.000 Wow.

01:44:07.000 Yeah, I suck at playing slot, but it's...

01:44:20.000 Are you a John Lee Hooker fan?

01:44:22.000 Oh yeah, my God. 1.00

01:44:22.000 God damn, is that guy a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:44:26.000 Is he still around? 1.00

01:44:27.000 No, he's dead.

01:44:27.000 When did he pass?

01:44:29.000 Maybe 10 years ago.

01:44:30.000 Because he was old.

01:44:31.000 He was playing when he was in his 90s.

01:44:34.000 I didn't discover him until he was probably in his 80s.

01:44:43.000 You know what?

01:44:44.000 This will be big ups on Gary.

01:44:47.000 We saw Gary for the first time.

01:44:49.000 He was just acoustic.

01:44:50.000 We played this show with him.

01:44:51.000 This was like 2011 or something.

01:44:53.000 And he made me feel like John Lee Hooker.

01:44:56.000 Because it was just him.

01:44:57.000 And there's this hypnosis that he can kind of set over you.

01:45:02.000 That's like a real blues.

01:45:04.000 That's where you get deeper into it.

01:45:06.000 These guys can really play that.

01:45:07.000 Music.

01:45:08.000 It's the same thing.

01:45:09.000 John Lee Hooker, you listen to it and you're kind of like in trance.

01:45:12.000 Jamie, find my Instagram where Honey Honey had Gary Clark together on stage and you guys were doing Midnight Rider.

01:45:20.000 I filmed a little bit of it and put it up on Instagram.

01:45:24.000 It was just so crazy.

01:45:25.000 I did everything that I hate people doing at comedy clubs. 0.60

01:45:30.000 Nerd.

01:45:32.000 Oh, look, there's my hat. 0.98

01:45:37.000 Oh, God.

01:45:40.000 Like, listen to that.

01:45:42.000 That's so Gary Clark.

01:45:44.000 He's so cool.

01:45:46.000 That's me playing.

01:45:48.000 Both of you. 0.99

01:45:50.000 Oh, that's so fucking good. 0.98

01:46:21.000 It feels so fucking good. 0.99

01:46:27.000 I got a lot of crap for this. 0.99

01:46:29.000 I know, because she had to check the lyrics. 1.00

01:46:31.000 But let me just explain this for all the assholes that gave her crap. 1.00

01:46:34.000 Oh, I got so much crap for that. 1.00

01:46:34.000 She didn't know the words to the song. 1.00

01:46:36.000 They did this impromptu song live on stage in front of all these people.

01:46:41.000 And she had to check her phone for the lyrics. 1.00

01:46:42.000 I had to block some dude who was being such a fucking cock. 0.99

01:46:45.000 And I was like, I'm sorry. 1.00

01:46:46.000 Don't mention him.

01:46:47.000 Don't mention him.

01:46:47.000 I'm not going to.

01:46:48.000 He just needs attention.

01:46:49.000 Screw that dude.

01:46:50.000 But I, you know, whatever. 1.00

01:46:53.000 Shit happens. 1.00

01:46:54.000 You know, it was such a fun night. 0.99

01:46:55.000 We did a song I didn't know and I wanted to sing the words properly and I had to look them up on my phone.

01:47:00.000 Listen to me, Suzanne.

01:47:01.000 But someone thought I was texting some dude and that wasn't the case.

01:47:03.000 Thousands of people enjoyed that. 0.97

01:47:05.000 One or two were cunts and you're focusing on the wrong ones. 0.91

01:47:08.000 Thank you, Joe. 0.96

01:47:09.000 Thank you.

01:47:10.000 It was amazing.

01:47:10.000 You've always been on social media, Yoda.

01:47:12.000 You are!

01:47:14.000 You gotta just know when to stop. 0.99

01:47:16.000 Put out the right vibe, be yourself, and get the fuck out of Dodge when shit gets weird. 0.99

01:47:21.000 Just get away. 0.99

01:47:22.000 You can't control it.

01:47:23.000 You definitely can't argue with it.

01:47:24.000 And you're right.

01:47:26.000 It is an effort to not care because...

01:47:29.000 But you do care.

01:47:30.000 We should all care.

01:47:31.000 Well, I just love people.

01:47:33.000 I really do. 0.99

01:47:33.000 Unless you're a really shitty person, it's hard. 0.99

01:47:36.000 And I want to love that person, too. 0.99

01:47:38.000 But it's not about caring.

01:47:40.000 It's because you're going to care.

01:47:41.000 It's about recognizing what that person is and then not letting them into your house.

01:47:45.000 Agreed.

01:47:46.000 You know what that is.

01:47:47.000 It's a dummy.

01:47:48.000 They just want to get mad about stuff. 0.99

01:47:49.000 Especially if you found out what it was, that you were just checking the lyrics to a song that you'd never sang before and you were singing live with Gary Clark Jr. in front of a fuck, and it was like midnight in downtown LA in some weird-ass bar. 0.98

01:48:02.000 Oh man, that was weird. 0.98

01:48:03.000 Yeah, that was weird.

01:48:03.000 That was badass.

01:48:05.000 Makes me want to move to downtown LA. Does it?

01:48:07.000 Live like Batman. 1.00

01:48:10.000 Some sort of a warehouse and fucking have an English dude wash his shit over from him. 1.00

01:48:16.000 Batman's pretty unhappy, Joe. 1.00

01:48:18.000 So you think from the outside.

01:48:19.000 You don't know him, man.

01:48:20.000 People might think you're unhappy.

01:48:22.000 All those musicians, they're all dark. 1.00

01:48:24.000 Why is Batman unhappy? 1.00

01:48:26.000 Because he's lonely as fuck. 0.99

01:48:27.000 How do you know what he's talking about? 1.00

01:48:28.000 What are you talking about?

01:48:29.000 I feel like all the movies are going into how bummed out he is all the time.

01:48:32.000 Because he can't share what he's doing.

01:48:34.000 Because he has to live in secret?

01:48:35.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:48:36.000 He could.

01:48:36.000 He just needs a couple of good friends.

01:48:38.000 He can't get the validation.

01:48:39.000 Yeah, he's got one old British dude. 0.81

01:48:40.000 One old friend.

01:48:42.000 And funny.

01:48:42.000 He just needs more friends.

01:48:44.000 Yep.

01:48:44.000 Like, if I was Batman, I feel like I could tell you and you wouldn't tell anybody.

01:48:47.000 You're absolutely right.

01:48:47.000 Joe, I had to break through two.

01:48:49.000 You are Batman.

01:48:50.000 There's a few people.

01:48:51.000 Did you ever see that?

01:48:54.000 It was actually a comic book.

01:48:56.000 It was a forgetful professor.

01:48:58.000 It was a professor in the comic book.

01:49:01.000 This guy was forgetful about all these different things, but he was like a super genius professor.

01:49:07.000 And at the end of the comic book, he recognized that he was actually an alien from another planet that came down to Earth to help us innovate.

01:49:15.000 I hate to break it to you, Joe, but you are also an alien from another planet that came down here to You know it's true.

01:49:29.000 You guys should do more of those weird little downtown shows though.

01:49:32.000 We should.

01:49:33.000 You should.

01:49:34.000 Those were fun.

01:49:35.000 That was so strange.

01:49:36.000 It was a really fun night.

01:49:37.000 Midnight.

01:49:37.000 And it was so great because you were there.

01:49:39.000 That's why it was great.

01:49:40.000 We had a great time.

01:49:41.000 It was awesome.

01:49:41.000 It was fun.

01:49:42.000 It was pretty fucking badass. 0.85

01:49:43.000 Yeah, that was amazing. 0.98

01:49:44.000 Intimate shows are so big.

01:49:46.000 They're so different, you know?

01:49:47.000 Like, you almost kind of have to do them.

01:49:49.000 Like, if you just J-Lo the whole thing, and you're on these big-ass giant stages for the rest of your life...

01:49:55.000 Is she on big-ass giant stages? 1.00

01:49:56.000 I would imagine.

01:49:57.000 Oh, yeah.

01:49:57.000 If she's doing anything, she's going to be, like, separated from everybody.

01:50:00.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:01.000 Right?

01:50:02.000 You're not getting close to that. 1.00

01:50:04.000 White rose petals on her feet and shit. 1.00

01:50:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:50:06.000 Damn. 0.99

01:50:06.000 But I mean, I think that... 0.99

01:50:07.000 One day, Ben.

01:50:08.000 One day.

01:50:09.000 As attractive as that is...

01:50:09.000 We're gonna do it.

01:50:10.000 Hold on.

01:50:10.000 There's the counterpoint.

01:50:11.000 Yeah, you don't want that.

01:50:12.000 As attractive as that thought seems, that's like the worst thing that could ever happen to you.

01:50:18.000 Because it gets so separated from everybody that you're up on some giant-ass stage and everywhere you go you can't interact with people.

01:50:25.000 It depends.

01:50:25.000 Making all that money.

01:50:26.000 We just both saw Roger Waters two weeks ago and it was incredible.

01:50:31.000 Tony went.

01:50:31.000 He said it was insane.

01:50:32.000 Oh my god.

01:50:33.000 And I think there's a...

01:50:35.000 Well, I mean, there's a reason that he's doing what he's doing and people are coming to see him because it's incredible and it's authentic and it's raw and that man has...

01:50:46.000 Obviously, he has teams around him that help build that show.

01:50:48.000 He doesn't do that by himself.

01:50:50.000 But it was...

01:50:52.000 Oh man.

01:50:54.000 It wasn't white rose petals.

01:50:57.000 It was beautiful music.

01:50:59.000 No, but that's different.

01:50:59.000 That's a different thing.

01:51:00.000 That's a different thing.

01:51:01.000 Well, and that's that fast food thing we were kind of talking about earlier.

01:51:04.000 Yeah.

01:51:04.000 And I think there's a place for that, too.

01:51:06.000 Sometimes you're fucking starving and you need something right now. 0.97

01:51:08.000 There's also a lot of money in being that icon, that diva, that thing. 0.99

01:51:14.000 It's a very attractive position to try to attain.

01:51:18.000 It's almost like...

01:51:19.000 You just run a little too close to the sun and burn the wax off your wings.

01:51:24.000 Some of it's authentic and some of it is totally you are a machine.

01:51:27.000 You are part of the manufactured idealism that you represent.

01:51:32.000 And that is a heavy burden.

01:51:33.000 I don't wish that on anybody.

01:51:36.000 What's probably not inauthentic is people's ambition to get there. 0.91

01:51:40.000 I think the people in those positions are so fucking ravenous for that kind of attention.

01:51:45.000 And that's the only way you would possibly climb to the top of that mountain. 0.99

01:51:48.000 Yeah, you have to be fucking focused. 0.98

01:51:51.000 I don't know. 0.98

01:51:51.000 I think some people are manipulated. 0.98

01:51:54.000 Like Michael Jackson? 0.98

01:51:55.000 I think some people have an idea of the art and they're also exploited within that realm because some parts of the record industry are fucking insidious.

01:52:05.000 You know and they take like remember you were talking about that documentary with these like 15 year old kids that were so talented But they were like clearly just getting just sucked into the thing You're too young to know what you're doing There's just no ifs ands or buts about it in order to make the decision to be a giant like Michael Jackson like we're talking about Jackson 5 earlier Like when you sing an ABC. I mean he was a fucking baby. 0.99

01:52:30.000 Yeah, he was a baby and he was on TV and You know, he was on, he was a huge star. 0.99

01:52:36.000 But also, like, he had his family running the show, and it was like a really fucked up dynamic.

01:52:41.000 And so it was almost like his, I mean, don't get me wrong, his talent was undeniable, but like, his family were the record industry in that respect.

01:52:48.000 But dude, his talent was so undeniable that he was the youngest one, and he got to sing. 0.97

01:52:53.000 Could you imagine, you grew up with four bad motherfuckers as brothers, your dad is a professional musician, and you are so good, they're like, okay, let him sing. 0.98

01:53:04.000 Everybody else must have wanted to sing. 0.99

01:53:05.000 They all did their solo projects afterwards. 0.98

01:53:07.000 They didn't say shit while Michael had the microphone. 0.89

01:53:10.000 They're just like, let him sing, let him sing, let him sing. 0.98

01:53:12.000 Just let him sing.

01:53:13.000 And people reacted to that in real way, right?

01:53:16.000 I mean, that's what, you know, there's the exploitative aspect. 0.98

01:53:19.000 And then it's like, everybody wanted to fucking see him sing. 0.97

01:53:21.000 I wish I saw him sing. 0.99

01:53:22.000 It was two things.

01:53:24.000 It was this emergence of this incredible sound that came out of this one person and all the different projects that he was involved in.

01:53:31.000 And then it was also the tragic, almost like decimating of a potential life.

01:53:36.000 Because his life existed so strongly in the public eye that it didn't exist anywhere else in a normal form.

01:53:43.000 Outside, it was just a chaos, a mess of hanging out with kids and weird relationships with women that didn't seem real and living in an amusement park.

01:53:53.000 It was just a mess.

01:53:54.000 It was just a total disaster.

01:53:56.000 Like, everything outside of the magic that he did in the public eye was just hell.

01:54:03.000 It's really weird because what he did in the public eye, like Thriller and Beat It and all those different things, I mean, they were so, so intense.

01:54:11.000 Like, I was in high school when all that stuff was going on, and I remember just watching Thriller on television, you know, when they had the premiere, the music video, and everybody sat around and watched Thriller when it came out.

01:54:24.000 There was nothing like that ever.

01:54:25.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:26.000 Ever.

01:54:27.000 It's crazy.

01:54:28.000 Like, sort of like when Hendrix came along, there was nothing like that before.

01:54:31.000 Well, when Michael Jackson came along, there was nothing like that before either. 0.99

01:54:34.000 You're like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:54:35.000 Like, someone had taken the whole thing and put it in this totally new package, where it was like this feminine guy, and he had one glove on, and he was dancing, and everybody wanted to move like him, and it's like, what in the fuck? 0.99

01:54:46.000 Right, well this is kind of back to your Freddie Mercury kind of dick out thing. 0.97

01:54:51.000 It's like he did what he wanted to do and he was iconic because of it. 0.58

01:54:56.000 I think that's part of it.

01:54:58.000 It's like you just have to own it.

01:55:00.000 Well, but he did it on a level...

01:55:03.000 That was undeniable, just like you talked about before, because of his ambition.

01:55:09.000 It wasn't just, I'm going to be me. 0.87

01:55:10.000 It was like, I am going to be me to the furthest extent that I possibly fucking can. 0.96

01:55:16.000 And this is what happened. 0.96

01:55:17.000 You know what I mean?

01:55:17.000 I have a friend who went to his house up in Los Olivos, and they toured his dance studio.

01:55:23.000 And he had this private dance studio, and there's mirrors against the wall, and there's this groove in the floor. 0.99

01:55:28.000 And this is, you know, he was later in his life at this point, but he had worn out a part of the floor from just practicing his shit. 0.99

01:55:34.000 Wow. 0.98

01:55:35.000 And this is way beyond his teens and 20s.

01:55:38.000 That's just like who he was all the time.

01:55:41.000 You know what people don't respect?

01:55:42.000 That song Dragon Attack.

01:55:45.000 I don't know that song.

01:55:46.000 I don't know, but you stared into my soul when you said it.

01:55:48.000 You don't know the Queen song, Dragon Attack?

01:55:49.000 I know the troll song.

01:55:51.000 Ogre Battle?

01:55:52.000 I know Ogre Battle.

01:55:53.000 It's one of those songs that people forgot.

01:55:55.000 Can we play it?

01:55:56.000 I don't know the song.

01:55:57.000 We could play it, but the people on YouTube can't hear it, and we'll probably have to...

01:55:59.000 We could play it for us, though, right?

01:56:01.000 We have to do some fancy editing.

01:56:03.000 Probably.

01:56:03.000 We're going to get in trouble.

01:56:04.000 We get yanked off YouTube for everything.

01:56:06.000 We show a video of a caterpillar, and we get yanked off YouTube.

01:56:09.000 Wait, we can't use YouTube?

01:56:10.000 We got yanked the last time we did.

01:56:11.000 We get yanked off YouTube for stuff.

01:56:13.000 Like when we put things on the air that are on YouTube that someone else has...

01:56:18.000 Listen to this.

01:56:19.000 This is...

01:56:20.000 This is Dragon Attack.

01:56:23.000 People don't...

01:56:24.000 They don't remember this.

01:56:26.000 Just think about...

01:56:27.000 Give me some volume.

01:56:30.000 Like...

01:56:31.000 Come on.

01:56:32.000 Meth. 1.00

01:56:34.000 That dick's just out. 1.00

01:56:37.000 Oh my god! 1.00

01:56:45.000 Come on. 0.96

01:56:49.000 Nasty. 0.83

01:56:51.000 It's an unforgotten classic.

01:56:53.000 You have to have Brian May...

01:56:54.000 It gets better.

01:56:55.000 ...on your podcast.

01:56:56.000 Who?

01:56:57.000 The guitar...

01:57:02.000 Dick's out. 0.88

01:57:06.000 Dick's out! 0.94

01:57:09.000 Woo! 0.99

01:57:12.000 What?

01:57:21.000 Come on! 0.61

01:57:22.000 It feels so good!

01:57:30.000 Alright, we'll have to fade out here.

01:57:31.000 We'll have to fade out here.

01:57:32.000 We'll get in trouble.

01:57:33.000 Come on, dragon attack. 1.00

01:57:35.000 People have slept on dragon attack. 1.00

01:57:36.000 That shit is nasty. 1.00

01:57:37.000 That's one of the Queen's best songs. 1.00

01:57:39.000 It's just occurring to me right now.

01:57:41.000 What is that sound?

01:57:42.000 Do you hear that?

01:57:43.000 What is that?

01:57:44.000 Check to see if that's my car.

01:57:45.000 This is the cigar holder.

01:57:46.000 Maybe the feds.

01:57:48.000 It's the building?

01:57:49.000 Oh, no.

01:57:49.000 Oh, is there a fire alarm?

01:57:52.000 Oh, it's probably next door.

01:57:53.000 He's getting robbed.

01:57:55.000 Should we go intervene, guys?

01:57:57.000 What kind of weapons do you have in this place?

01:57:59.000 Oh, we've got Joe Rogan. 1.00

01:58:00.000 We've got a lot of shit. 1.00

01:58:02.000 Maces. 1.00

01:58:03.000 Joe, you are a human weapon.

01:58:05.000 Definitely not. 0.96

01:58:06.000 There's bullets.

01:58:06.000 Bullets are super hard to defend against.

01:58:08.000 Okay.

01:58:10.000 I told you I saw Baby Driver last night.

01:58:13.000 Baby Driver, yeah, you were saying it earlier.

01:58:14.000 Oh my god, everyone needs to see it.

01:58:16.000 That's what I keep hearing.

01:58:17.000 Speaking of incredible music and just a great story, it's the...

01:58:21.000 You guys hear that sound?

01:58:23.000 That sound in the background is preventing us from playing you beautiful, harmonious music.

01:58:28.000 But we just can't.

01:58:30.000 Same laugh.

01:58:31.000 Are you laughing?

01:58:32.000 I keep trying to ask him...

01:58:35.000 What do you want to ask?

01:58:36.000 You've got to get Brian May on your podcast.

01:58:39.000 I would love to.

01:58:40.000 What's going on, Young Jeremy?

01:58:42.000 Nobody's next door, and the alarm's going off, so this will be going on forever.

01:58:46.000 And this is why we're moving.

01:58:47.000 It's kind of cool.

01:58:47.000 We should turn it into a rap song.

01:58:49.000 Like NWA, you know, his like, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop.

01:58:52.000 You know, we can kind of just...

01:58:54.000 I would imagine that these things have a time limit where they're allowed to stay on.

01:58:58.000 I don't know.

01:58:58.000 I think...

01:58:59.000 I don't know about that.

01:59:00.000 The alert needs to be...

01:59:01.000 We're going to find out.

01:59:02.000 Fervent and...

01:59:05.000 Yeah, but what happens?

01:59:06.000 We weren't here, so it goes back on.

01:59:09.000 And then the security people have to come.

01:59:10.000 Is somebody getting robbed?

01:59:12.000 What's next door?

01:59:13.000 Is it worth checking out?

01:59:15.000 No.

01:59:16.000 It's not anything exciting? 1.00

01:59:17.000 Just a bunch of shit. 1.00

01:59:18.000 I don't know what happened. 1.00

01:59:19.000 Bummer. 1.00

01:59:20.000 We might have to wrap this bitch up. 1.00

01:59:23.000 Can we talk through that? 1.00

01:59:24.000 Sure.

01:59:27.000 What's that?

01:59:28.000 Maybe like a minute or two and I'll see if there's someone out there that's going to unlock it or stop it soon, but I don't know if it'll stop.

01:59:33.000 Yeah, I wonder what's going to happen.

01:59:34.000 This could be one of our shortest pod...

01:59:36.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:59:36.000 How long have we been going?

01:59:37.000 We've been going for a while.

01:59:38.000 It's already 4.30.

01:59:40.000 We've been going since 2, right?

01:59:41.000 So I think that there's probably not a lot of people working today.

01:59:48.000 Because today's Monday the 3rd, tomorrow's the 4th. 0.99

01:59:50.000 People just say, fuck Monday then. 0.99

01:59:52.000 Yeah, that's fine. 1.00

01:59:53.000 You get that extra day.

01:59:56.000 Independence Day. 1.00

01:59:57.000 Tomorrow's the day where people are going to do some stupid shit with some fireworks. 1.00

02:00:00.000 What are you doing tomorrow? 1.00

02:00:02.000 Grilling. 1.00

02:00:02.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00

02:00:03.000 Oh, man, that's great. 1.00

02:00:05.000 That's what you're doing later, too.

02:00:06.000 Can we still come over?

02:00:07.000 Are we grilling tonight?

02:00:08.000 We're grilling tonight.

02:00:10.000 Tonight we're going to grill some Axis deer.

02:00:12.000 I'm so excited.

02:00:13.000 Fresh from Hawaii.

02:00:14.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

02:00:14.000 Damn. 1.00

02:00:15.000 How did you get... 1.00

02:00:15.000 You just ship it with you on the plane? 1.00

02:00:17.000 Is there some sort of special...

02:00:19.000 You just freeze it.

02:00:20.000 Freeze it before you take it back.

02:00:22.000 You know, put it in the cooler.

02:00:23.000 Wow.

02:00:24.000 Yeah.

02:00:25.000 Do you have a...

02:00:26.000 You're permitted for a certain number of deer that you can...

02:00:29.000 Not in Lanai.

02:00:30.000 In Lanai, they don't have any predators.

02:00:32.000 So you could really...

02:00:33.000 I only shot one of them. 0.95

02:00:34.000 They're really hard to get with a bow and arrow. 0.68

02:00:35.000 It's hard to get close to them.

02:00:37.000 They're super...

02:00:37.000 They evolved with tigers.

02:00:42.000 What?

02:00:42.000 They're so fast.

02:00:44.000 This happened more than once.

02:00:46.000 I shot at one and it ran away from the arrow.

02:00:50.000 The arrow is going 200 and...

02:00:53.000 Well, I had to switch arrows because I had heavier arrows that go 245 feet a second.

02:00:57.000 And in the mid-hunt, we had to switch to these other arrows that go 275 feet a second.

02:01:02.000 I had to gain an extra 30 feet a second.

02:01:04.000 Because the deer would...

02:01:05.000 Even then, they still ducked it. 0.97

02:01:07.000 They would look at the arrow coming their way and get the fuck out of the dog. 1.00

02:01:10.000 They're like, yeah, bitch. 1.00

02:01:11.000 Are you kidding me? 1.00

02:01:12.000 I mean, you know how fast that is?

02:01:14.000 That's so fast.

02:01:15.000 Because they literally evolved running away from tigers. 0.68

02:01:20.000 Crazy, man.

02:01:21.000 I don't think there's any chance that it's going off anytime soon. 0.53

02:01:23.000 Yeah.

02:01:24.000 There's no one around.

02:01:25.000 We don't have to play.

02:01:26.000 We got issues, folks.

02:01:27.000 Or we could play with a soundtrack.

02:01:28.000 We don't have to play.

02:01:29.000 It's up to you.

02:01:29.000 We could.

02:01:31.000 We could definitely just keep doing it.

02:01:33.000 Does it bother you that this thing is going on?

02:01:34.000 It's kind of faded into the background for me.

02:01:36.000 No, it's cool.

02:01:36.000 I mean, I've had a few drinks at this point.

02:01:38.000 I feel pretty warm.

02:01:39.000 I have a couple of more.

02:01:41.000 I feel really inspired.

02:01:43.000 If you guys smell smoke, let me know.

02:01:45.000 Do you want to play some jams?

02:01:48.000 I sounded Russian.

02:01:50.000 It was a little...

02:01:51.000 Some chimps.

02:01:52.000 Do you want to play some songs?

02:01:55.000 I was at this place.

02:01:56.000 Playtime for Putin.

02:01:58.000 In New York.

02:01:59.000 It had a tiger pelt.

02:02:02.000 It's a famous tiger pelt.

02:02:03.000 A real one?

02:02:04.000 A real one.

02:02:04.000 Donde in New York.

02:02:05.000 It's called the Explorers Club.

02:02:07.000 This place is crazy.

02:02:09.000 Oh, wow. 1.00

02:02:09.000 Is this like some S&M shit, Ben? 1.00

02:02:12.000 Tell us. 1.00

02:02:14.000 Anyplace can be an S&M place.

02:02:16.000 So it's like a safari type deal?

02:02:19.000 Like one of those clubs?

02:02:21.000 Maybe late 1800s Teddy Roosevelt started this place.

02:02:25.000 Oh, of course!

02:02:26.000 With a bunch of bros.

02:02:28.000 And they have all this taxidermy in this room.

02:02:32.000 And one of them is this pelt of a tiger, a tigress.

02:02:35.000 That killed 48 people.

02:02:37.000 What?

02:02:37.000 In India.

02:02:38.000 It was a phenomenon.

02:02:40.000 It got a taste for blood and started hunting men.

02:02:46.000 Or people.

02:02:47.000 I don't know if it was just men.

02:02:48.000 But they had this thing on the wall which was insane.

02:02:52.000 You know, that's a real issue in India.

02:02:55.000 In India, there's one part of this river that's very brackish, and the tigers drink this salt water.

02:03:02.000 And because of the typhoons, a lot of times they wind up having a bunch of people wash up in the river, and the tigers wind up eating people.

02:03:09.000 So they developed a penchant.

02:03:11.000 Yeah, they have a taste for humans.

02:03:14.000 To the point where there's one section of India.

02:03:17.000 Over the past 200 years, tigers have killed over 300,000 people. 0.99

02:03:21.000 Why the fuck are people still going there? 0.97

02:03:23.000 It was a bit from one of my specials. 0.98

02:03:24.000 It was a bit from Talking Monkeys in Space.

02:03:27.000 Okay, Ben, you can yell.

02:03:28.000 It's weird.

02:03:29.000 It really is true.

02:03:30.000 Why are people going there?

02:03:31.000 They live there.

02:03:32.000 They're poor.

02:03:33.000 After the first 100,000, you're like, we should leave.

02:03:35.000 There's nothing really they could do about it.

02:03:37.000 So it's not just, it's like they've evolved in that way?

02:03:40.000 It's not just like one main, you know, predatory tiger that's all...

02:03:44.000 No, no, no.

02:03:44.000 There's many, many, many, many tigers over hundreds of years.

02:03:47.000 The tigers have gotten used to eating people.

02:03:50.000 Tigers are particularly ruthless.

02:03:52.000 It's that funny story when you're like, I'm afraid of sharks and sharks don't eat people.

02:03:56.000 They don't like the way we taste. 0.99

02:03:57.000 How the fuck do you know? 0.99

02:03:59.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:03:59.000 Exactly. 0.99

02:04:00.000 They just don't expect us. 0.98

02:04:01.000 They could be like, actually, I took a bite and that was fucking delicious. 0.94

02:04:05.000 It's like if you expected you were going to get cottage cheese, but instead you got a cantaloupe, you'd kind of freak out. 0.96

02:04:10.000 But you might really get into cantaloupes after a while. 0.98

02:04:14.000 You'd be like, I fucking love divers. 0.95

02:04:16.000 You know, divers are delicious. 0.99

02:04:17.000 What is this, bouillonnaise?

02:04:18.000 Oh, I like it.

02:04:19.000 I eat them in the wetsuit, dude. 0.99

02:04:21.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.99

02:04:22.000 You know? 1.00

02:04:23.000 Well, you know that's not a seal, right?

02:04:24.000 Yeah, it's a diver.

02:04:25.000 It's like a bougie person. 0.93

02:04:27.000 Oh my god. 1.00

02:04:27.000 You fuck? 1.00

02:04:28.000 I know exactly what it is. 1.00

02:04:28.000 My fucking worst nightmare. 1.00

02:04:30.000 Yeah, this one section of this river in India, I did this whole bit about it in my 2009 comedy special because there was a real story about a boat of people. 0.99

02:04:41.000 There was five guys in this boat and three of them were killed by tigers.

02:04:46.000 So the tiger swam out to the boat, jumped in, killed a guy, dragged him into the water, swam to the shore, dropped his body off, jumped back in the water, swam out to the boat again, got the next guy, swam back to the shore.

02:04:59.000 He was a tiger hoarder.

02:05:01.000 He was just on a killing spree. 1.00

02:05:02.000 That's fucked up. 1.00

02:05:03.000 God damn. 1.00

02:05:04.000 Three guys. 1.00

02:05:05.000 This is real, Joe?

02:05:06.000 Why did he make friends with him?

02:05:08.000 I feel like everything you say is real.

02:05:09.000 It's totally real.

02:05:10.000 I wouldn't lie to you about something so important.

02:05:13.000 That's crazy.

02:05:14.000 It's a danger.

02:05:15.000 Just stop and think about what that must have been like in the last two guys.

02:05:18.000 This is where I stay home at my apartment in Silver Lake.

02:05:19.000 Oh my god, the terror.

02:05:21.000 That's what we need.

02:05:22.000 Tigers roaming the streets of Silver Lake.

02:05:24.000 We have coyotes. 0.99

02:05:25.000 To let people understand.

02:05:26.000 We have cougars. 0.99

02:05:27.000 Coyotes.

02:05:28.000 Coyotes.

02:05:28.000 Griffith Park, they do stay.

02:05:30.000 You guys are close to Griffith Park.

02:05:31.000 You got a pamphlet, Ben?

02:05:32.000 I should have brought the pamphlet in.

02:05:33.000 Oh, that's such a relief.

02:05:36.000 Yeah.

02:05:37.000 That means that the crooks have found the bolts and cut in the lines.

02:05:41.000 They've got the booty.

02:05:43.000 The pirates have got the booty.

02:05:45.000 It feels weird now.

02:05:45.000 We're so alone in our thoughts.

02:05:46.000 I know.

02:05:47.000 Oh, it's so awkward.

02:05:49.000 There was a guy that I had on that was a wildlife biologist that was telling me about the cougar that lives in Griffith Park.

02:05:53.000 And he just jacks deer.

02:05:55.000 That's all he does.

02:05:56.000 And the occasional dog.

02:05:58.000 And they monitor this cat.

02:06:00.000 So there's a single...

02:06:01.000 Yep, big cat.

02:06:03.000 This is a cat.

02:06:04.000 They have a photo of him with the Hollywood sign that, by the way, we have coming.

02:06:07.000 We have a print of that coming for the new studio.

02:06:12.000 It has a collar on, but it's a wild cougar, and they have to capture it every couple of years. 0.97

02:06:17.000 It's because its collar runs out of GPS, so the battery dies on the collar, so they have to find this fucker, and then they have to dart him. 0.98

02:06:23.000 There he is right there. 0.99

02:06:24.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:06:25.000 See, he has his collar?

02:06:26.000 And look in the background with the Hollywood sign.

02:06:28.000 That's not planned.

02:06:29.000 That was just a camera trap photograph.

02:06:31.000 A random photo.

02:06:32.000 That's a big cat.

02:06:32.000 Look at that collar.

02:06:33.000 He must be fucking pissed. 0.99

02:06:33.000 Look at his forearms. 0.99

02:06:35.000 Dude, that's like Franco Columbo.

02:06:38.000 I mean, that's insane. 1.00

02:06:39.000 His forearms are fucking jacked. 0.99

02:06:42.000 The Hollywood sign is actually ten feet behind him. 0.99

02:06:44.000 What do you think he can lift?

02:06:45.000 A lot.

02:06:46.000 He looks like The Rock.

02:06:48.000 He's built like The Rock.

02:06:49.000 No, he's built like a power lifter almost.

02:06:51.000 Like his front arm.

02:06:52.000 Look at that dude. 0.88

02:06:53.000 The front arms are insane. 1.00

02:06:54.000 I want to look at this guy in the middle to the left with that fucking look on his face. 1.00

02:06:57.000 That guy. 0.99

02:06:58.000 It's all the same one.

02:06:59.000 That's the same guy.

02:06:59.000 That's him.

02:07:00.000 They took a picture of him.

02:07:00.000 He's so stoned.

02:07:01.000 Hey, what's up, bro?

02:07:02.000 He got an edible.

02:07:03.000 Yeah, he eats a lot of edibles.

02:07:04.000 You know what I think he eats?

02:07:05.000 It's just stoners.

02:07:06.000 I think if you eat stoners, you get high.

02:07:10.000 Oh my God.

02:07:10.000 That's my worst nightmare.

02:07:12.000 Jesus, man.

02:07:12.000 They have to capture this cat every two years.

02:07:15.000 This cat's been captured like four times.

02:07:16.000 He's pretty cute, too, though.

02:07:18.000 I think he had mange there, right?

02:07:19.000 Is that why they captured him?

02:07:20.000 That he had some sort of a disease they had to work with him on?

02:07:22.000 But it's so weird.

02:07:23.000 What do they call him?

02:07:25.000 Steven?

02:07:25.000 I think his name is P-22, right?

02:07:27.000 Is that his name?

02:07:28.000 That's what they call him?

02:07:28.000 Oh my god.

02:07:29.000 He was severely infected with mange.

02:07:32.000 Yeah.

02:07:32.000 That blows.

02:07:33.000 Sorry, dude. 0.99

02:07:34.000 That sucks. 0.66

02:07:34.000 It's an intense life. 0.66

02:07:35.000 And it's a male?

02:07:37.000 Uh-huh.

02:07:37.000 And he's out there running free.

02:07:38.000 That's what's really interesting.

02:07:40.000 They just let him do what he does.

02:07:41.000 He's not running free.

02:07:42.000 He's running the show.

02:07:44.000 He's definitely running the show. 1.00

02:07:45.000 He's like king shit. 1.00

02:07:46.000 He's definitely king shit if you're a jogger. 1.00

02:07:47.000 He's like Simba. 1.00

02:07:48.000 You just don't want to catch him.

02:07:50.000 Of California. 1.00

02:07:50.000 If he has a limp and he can't take out deer anymore, that's when you're fucked. 1.00

02:07:55.000 You gotta be packing heat, Ben. 1.00

02:07:57.000 These are the things that are...

02:07:59.000 When we were in Yellowstone and we were driving through, I did not want to get out of the car.

02:08:06.000 Bears! 0.65

02:08:07.000 Yellowstone is pretty fascinating.

02:08:09.000 It's beautiful.

02:08:10.000 I mean, we went and saw geysers and all the beautiful stuff, but like a week later, there was some hiker that just got killed.

02:08:16.000 By a bear?

02:08:17.000 Yeah, by a grizzly.

02:08:19.000 And it was like, there was footage of it.

02:08:22.000 Footage of it?

02:08:22.000 There was a, not a sheriff, the ranger, ranger mobile, mobile ranger.

02:08:30.000 Vehicle went by, and the man, like, literally, like, seconds after the ranger drove by, this just huge grizzly goes across the path, and there was a hiker who had his headphones on and just got, it's really terrible.

02:08:42.000 Got murked.

02:08:42.000 Did you hear about that kid, 11-year-old kid that saved a fishing party yesterday?

02:08:46.000 No.

02:08:46.000 A charging grizzly bear at a fishing party, and this 11-year-old kid gunned it down in Alaska.

02:08:53.000 What?

02:08:53.000 Gunned it down?

02:08:54.000 It's not a grizzly, technically.

02:08:55.000 It's a brown bear, but they're really the same bear.

02:08:57.000 What a grizzly is is a coastal brown bear, and what a coastal bear is called is a brown bear.

02:09:02.000 That's the kid?

02:09:04.000 11-year-old kid charging grizzly with one well-placed shot.

02:09:07.000 Where is he exactly?

02:09:08.000 So I can tell you if that's the right designation.

02:09:11.000 It says Young Harry Potter.

02:09:12.000 That's what that hat says.

02:09:13.000 Where does it say it was?

02:09:14.000 Huna, Alaska. 0.99

02:09:15.000 Go to the map and find out where the fuck Huna, Alaska is. 0.99

02:09:19.000 He's 11. Elliot 11. That dog is so happy. 0.99

02:09:21.000 Huna, Alaska.

02:09:22.000 The kid lives in Huna, Alaska.

02:09:24.000 That's amazing.

02:09:25.000 It's like equally as sad as it is like...

02:09:29.000 Way up yonder, huh?

02:09:30.000 You don't want to see the people die from the bear, but then you feel bad for the bear.

02:09:34.000 That's actually a brown bear.

02:09:36.000 They're calling it a grizzly, but it's on the coast.

02:09:38.000 Juno.

02:09:39.000 I think that's tech.

02:09:40.000 I might be wrong.

02:09:41.000 Ben, my aunt Diana lived in Juno. 0.98

02:09:43.000 Look how fucking big Alaska is. 0.98

02:09:45.000 Go back. 0.99

02:09:46.000 Look how big Alaska is. 0.97

02:09:48.000 Dude, I've been there a bunch.

02:09:50.000 I've been there a few times for fishing.

02:09:51.000 I did a show there once.

02:09:53.000 What do you like to fish, Joe?

02:09:54.000 Salmon.

02:09:55.000 What?

02:09:55.000 Can I come?

02:09:56.000 Sure.

02:09:57.000 I love to fish.

02:09:58.000 Let's do it.

02:09:58.000 Yeah, so does Ben.

02:10:00.000 Let's do a family vacation.

02:10:01.000 I would love that.

02:10:02.000 That would be the best thing ever.

02:10:03.000 Let's do it.

02:10:04.000 We're a lot of fun.

02:10:04.000 We'll plan it tonight at our cookout.

02:10:05.000 Okay, that sounds great.

02:10:07.000 We're having a cookout in just an hour from now.

02:10:09.000 But Alaska, you know what's really crazy?

02:10:12.000 The thing that I didn't anticipate? 0.99

02:10:13.000 How fucking aggressive the mosquitoes are. 0.99

02:10:15.000 Oh. 0.99

02:10:16.000 You hear that.

02:10:16.000 Because they only live for like a week.

02:10:18.000 Oh, jeez.

02:10:19.000 Do you wear the stuff?

02:10:20.000 I'm exaggerating with a week.

02:10:22.000 Do you wear the stuff?

02:10:23.000 Yeah, you gotta wear the stuff.

02:10:24.000 Yeah.

02:10:25.000 Another move is thermosel.

02:10:27.000 You know what a thermosel is?

02:10:28.000 I don't know.

02:10:29.000 Press a button.

02:10:30.000 It's an ingenious device that my friends the rivets up in Alberta told me about.

02:10:36.000 You have friends called the rivets?

02:10:37.000 The rivets.

02:10:37.000 John and Jen.

02:10:38.000 John and Jen Rivet.

02:10:39.000 They're hunting guides in Alberta.

02:10:42.000 But you press this button and it lights this little tiny element inside of it.

02:10:47.000 Like a sonic thing?

02:10:48.000 And it heats up that blue pad.

02:10:49.000 Go back to that thing.

02:10:50.000 That blue pad, you change those out.

02:10:53.000 After a while they become white.

02:10:55.000 And that blue pad puts out this fine mist.

02:10:58.000 No, it burns. 0.99

02:10:59.000 It burns off a fine mist that you can't detect, but fucking mosquitoes don't want no part of it. 0.99

02:11:04.000 Amazing. 1.00

02:11:04.000 Yeah, and it makes your dick grow. 1.00

02:11:05.000 I just made that part up. 1.00

02:11:07.000 That just made my dick grow. 0.99

02:11:09.000 But what is that? 0.99

02:11:12.000 Thermocell, are those heated?

02:11:13.000 Is that heated or is that repellent?

02:11:15.000 You put them under your tootsies.

02:11:20.000 It goes in your shoe.

02:11:22.000 This is a thermosel foot pad that somehow or another keeps mosquitoes out.

02:11:28.000 Do they have any other colors except for olive?

02:11:32.000 I don't know.

02:11:32.000 Good question.

02:11:33.000 Is that bothering you?

02:11:33.000 Are you fashion conscious when it comes to mosquito protection?

02:11:36.000 It's just worth looking into.

02:11:37.000 When we lived in Nashville, I would have to wear off for sensitive skin during the day because I would get bit up by mosquitoes all night.

02:11:44.000 And people would always tell me that I smelled amazing.

02:11:48.000 And I'd say, oh, it's off. 0.99

02:11:50.000 You said I write all over my tits with magic markers. 0.99

02:11:52.000 I did. 0.99

02:11:55.000 I didn't say that, but that sounds like a good pickup line.

02:11:58.000 What smells better than a fresh magic marker when you pop the top?

02:12:03.000 You don't even know why you like it, but you love that smell.

02:12:06.000 I don't even know what to say anymore.

02:12:08.000 Is it true?

02:12:10.000 I covered myself in off.

02:12:12.000 Does it turn you on that I covered myself in off?

02:12:15.000 Stop it.

02:12:16.000 Thermacell makes lawn, like those little things that you stick in the ground, like a little lawn lantern, but they keep mosquitoes away.

02:12:26.000 They do that too.

02:12:27.000 This is not a Thermacell commercial.

02:12:28.000 Guys, we have it pretty easy in California with the mosquitoes.

02:12:31.000 Oh my god, we got it easy with everything. 0.99

02:12:33.000 Fucking everything except earthquakes. 0.99

02:12:34.000 We got it easy. 0.99

02:12:35.000 We don't have weather.

02:12:36.000 I don't know.

02:12:36.000 I killed a spider in my bedroom in the middle of the night last week, and I broke my curtain on my window.

02:12:42.000 Imagine if you were living in Huna, Alaska, a charging grizzly bear.

02:12:46.000 You caught him out the window right after you broke your curtain.

02:12:49.000 I live here for a reason.

02:12:50.000 But if you were screaming from the spider and you broke the curtain and you looked out the window as the bear was in full charge, it would put it all in perspective, wouldn't it?

02:12:59.000 It sure would, Jim. 0.99

02:12:59.000 You'd be like, God damn it. 0.99

02:13:00.000 Really didn't have a big deal with that spider. 0.99

02:13:02.000 It was a good life.

02:13:03.000 It was a good life.

02:13:04.000 Look at Elliot, the 11-year-old hunter.

02:13:07.000 Yeah, he's kind of evaluating what just happened. 1.00

02:13:09.000 He's so, he's fucking owning that shit. 1.00

02:13:12.000 Look at that dog. 1.00

02:13:12.000 Yeah, bitches are on planes to go out and visit this kid. 1.00

02:13:14.000 There's older women that tend towards pedophilia that are right now grooming him. 1.00

02:13:18.000 Oh, stop it.

02:13:18.000 Yeah, they just want to wait a few years.

02:13:20.000 Come on.

02:13:20.000 That's what they do now.

02:13:21.000 They don't want to go to jail.

02:13:22.000 Come on.

02:13:22.000 So the older girls, they just become your friend.

02:13:24.000 And they mentor you for a few years. 0.99

02:13:26.000 And when you hit 18, they just start sucking. 0.99

02:13:29.000 That's what I hear. 0.97

02:13:30.000 That's just telling you what I hear.

02:13:31.000 Tell us more, Joe.

02:13:32.000 That's what I hear. 0.98

02:13:33.000 Because a lot of women are realizing, wrongly so, they get arrested for having sex with these young boys.

02:13:38.000 I think they just let it go.

02:13:39.000 But once these women do realize that there's real consequences to it, what they do is just befriend them. 1.00

02:13:47.000 They become friends with these kids.

02:13:48.000 It's so dark.

02:13:49.000 Long game.

02:13:50.000 It's not dark.

02:13:51.000 It's only dark if it's a girl.

02:13:52.000 Trust us, right?

02:13:53.000 Sure.

02:13:54.000 Oh, you're 14. The woman's hot. 1.00

02:13:56.000 You have an issue?

02:13:57.000 She's 25. She really likes you.

02:13:59.000 She teaches you art and crafts.

02:14:01.000 She's a very skilled ceramicist. 1.00

02:14:04.000 She's really good at making ashtrays. 0.99

02:14:07.000 Do you like pottery?

02:14:08.000 She fosters you.

02:14:09.000 I get it.

02:14:10.000 I'm in.

02:14:14.000 And on that note...

02:14:17.000 Where do we go from here?

02:14:18.000 Oh, jeez.

02:14:19.000 I don't know.

02:14:20.000 So many options.

02:14:20.000 Home, under the desk, into a fetal position.

02:14:24.000 It's that Mary Kay Letourneau, that girl that, she's still with that boy.

02:14:29.000 And they had a fake divorce.

02:14:31.000 They had to get a divorce because he's going into the weed business.

02:14:34.000 Really?

02:14:36.000 They only got divorced so that she wouldn't be like legally, it wouldn't be like a legal issue with him selling weed or something with him and her. 0.99

02:14:45.000 He was like protecting her so they got a divorce but they're still together and happy apparently.

02:14:49.000 There's been a story like that coming out like every week right now about like a young teacher.

02:14:54.000 Oh yeah.

02:14:55.000 Substitute teacher 24 accused of sex in two counties with her 17 year old student.

02:15:00.000 Okay. 0.94

02:15:00.000 It's only seven years difference folks. 0.94

02:15:02.000 Okay.

02:15:04.000 You gotta let that go.

02:15:06.000 My parents have a huge age gap between them.

02:15:09.000 Huge.

02:15:09.000 Yeah?

02:15:10.000 How many years?

02:15:10.000 80?

02:15:11.000 You want to get close?

02:15:12.000 150. Wait, let's play the game.

02:15:13.000 Let's play the game.

02:15:13.000 How old is Ben's dad?

02:15:14.000 70. 78. No.

02:15:17.000 Okay, but you're not playing by the rules, first of all.

02:15:18.000 You get three tries.

02:15:19.000 So that was two tries.

02:15:20.000 I want to keep going.

02:15:21.000 I'll start at one.

02:15:22.000 You get the spiel.

02:15:24.000 Ben, Ben.

02:15:25.000 Just let him go.

02:15:26.000 He's already got two tries.

02:15:27.000 Look, I've been playing this game my whole life.

02:15:29.000 Okay.

02:15:33.000 And it's always changing because he gets older.

02:15:35.000 Three things.

02:15:35.000 I tell you three things.

02:15:36.000 One, okay, I'm 31 years old.

02:15:37.000 I'm about to turn 32. Next week.

02:15:39.000 Second thing is, my dad is crazy fucking old. 1.00

02:15:42.000 Crazy. 1.00

02:15:42.000 And the third thing is, one person my entire life has ever guessed old enough. 1.00

02:15:46.000 I mean, Ian, you can go crazy and you're 150. Okay.

02:15:49.000 I already said 150. I know.

02:15:51.000 All right.

02:15:51.000 So it's not 150. You get a free pass there, Rogan.

02:15:54.000 He's not the oldest guy ever.

02:15:55.000 Okay, I think your dad is 95 years old.

02:15:58.000 Okay, you're actually spot on.

02:16:00.000 Really?

02:16:00.000 Yeah.

02:16:01.000 He's turning 96 in November.

02:16:02.000 He got it on the third try.

02:16:03.000 First two tries were 17. Legit.

02:16:05.000 That disturbs me.

02:16:06.000 Mark Jaffe is 95. I hate when I just take a shot in the dark.

02:16:10.000 But obviously, you gave me a lot of parameters to work in.

02:16:13.000 That's true, but still, generally with those... 0.82

02:16:15.000 Old, super crazy old...

02:16:16.000 If it was your first guess, people on the parameters never guess that. 0.94

02:16:20.000 Never.

02:16:21.000 I love that Joe just guessed your dad's proper age.

02:16:24.000 And he'll be 96 in November.

02:16:26.000 That's incredible. 0.99

02:16:27.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:16:28.000 Yeah, dude. 1.00

02:16:29.000 What are you? 1.00

02:16:29.000 What the fuck is going on? 1.00

02:16:31.000 Who, me? 1.00

02:16:32.000 That was just a lucky guess.

02:16:33.000 If I guessed when you didn't tell me he was crazy old, then it would be impressive.

02:16:37.000 See, that's where I feel like you give people...

02:16:39.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:16:40.000 But you hear what I'm saying?

02:16:41.000 Nobody has ever done it.

02:16:42.000 Yeah, yeah, but that doesn't matter.

02:16:43.000 But you just said it.

02:16:44.000 Who is the other person?

02:16:45.000 Like, I got lucky.

02:16:46.000 Listen, but if you, like, this is why, like, psychics are a problem.

02:16:51.000 They start leading you.

02:16:52.000 Mentalists. 0.76

02:16:52.000 And then they give you a bunch of information. 0.76

02:16:54.000 You get a bunch of information first, then they take a guess.

02:16:56.000 Like, if I told you that I was a psychic, and then we went through this whole thing, I sense your dad is getting on, but maybe not.

02:17:05.000 Maybe he isn't.

02:17:06.000 Maybe he's doing well.

02:17:07.000 You're right, Joe.

02:17:08.000 Yes, my dad's really old.

02:17:10.000 I feel like he's older.

02:17:12.000 Am I onto something?

02:17:13.000 Completely.

02:17:14.000 I feel like it's a big issue.

02:17:17.000 I feel like he's older than you would admit.

02:17:20.000 It's definitely been a thing.

02:17:21.000 So I feel like he's...

02:17:22.000 I want to say he's 95. Oh my god.

02:17:25.000 How did you know that?

02:17:27.000 That seems like I would be psychic. 1.00

02:17:28.000 That's what psychics do, those fucks. 1.00

02:17:30.000 Bitches. 1.00

02:17:31.000 Like, I had a friend of mine, and he went to a psychic, and he's like, dude, this guy knew all about my grandmother. 0.99

02:17:35.000 I'm like, don't you know about grandma?

02:17:37.000 You know about your grandma, right? 1.00

02:17:39.000 So this guy knew some shit that you already know. 1.00

02:17:41.000 Tell this guy to tell you some shit that you don't know. 1.00

02:17:43.000 You want someone to tell you things you already know? 1.00

02:17:45.000 That is fucking ridiculous. 1.00

02:17:47.000 You're gonna set her off. 1.00

02:17:48.000 No, you're not!

02:17:49.000 No, no, no, not in a bad way.

02:17:50.000 And I've never experienced it firsthand. 0.99

02:17:53.000 I've never had a psychic or someone with that kind of energy tell me something that I was like, wait, what the fuck did you just say?

02:18:01.000 But there's people like you in my life who I trust who have had experiences that are unexplainable. 0.83

02:18:08.000 I have.

02:18:09.000 I've had psychics tell me family secrets that I've bent over backwards to try to understand how they could possibly know what they knew and I'm always skeptical. 0.60

02:18:19.000 But I've definitely had people that told me things that there's fucking no way they could know.

02:18:24.000 Here's a question though.

02:18:25.000 Did you give them any answers to other questions before that?

02:18:28.000 No.

02:18:29.000 None. 0.72

02:18:30.000 So they just told you right away, your uncle's gay, and he has a boy that he lives with that he pretends is his son, but it's really his... 1.00

02:18:36.000 Joe, what the fuck? 1.00

02:18:37.000 Are you serious right now? 1.00

02:18:39.000 Without your interpretation, yes. 0.88

02:18:41.000 Without that, but something that ridiculous, that outrageous that they could only guess.

02:18:46.000 And you didn't give him any answers to any leading questions before that?

02:18:50.000 I thought I heard it on your podcast.

02:18:52.000 Maybe not, but there's a documented history of the military...

02:18:57.000 Experimenting?

02:18:58.000 Yes.

02:19:00.000 Experimenting.

02:19:00.000 But for years and years and years.

02:19:02.000 So they're not going to spend that money if there's no actual question.

02:19:05.000 No, that's not necessarily true.

02:19:07.000 Because they wanted to find out if there was an answer.

02:19:09.000 And the only way you find out is if you have to run some tests.

02:19:12.000 And they had a thing called remote viewing.

02:19:15.000 And we actually had some remote viewing experts on that TV show that I did for a while called Joe Rogan Questions Everything.

02:19:22.000 We sat down with them and I had all these remote viewing guys Boo, at the end of the day, it seems a lot like psychics.

02:19:31.000 It's like, there's no, like, they claim to have seen some things and pointed out some things that helped some operations and this and that, but it's all top secret.

02:19:42.000 Whether or not it's true, you're never gonna know.

02:19:44.000 You're never gonna know whether they're bullshitting you or something really did go down.

02:19:48.000 But I've never seen anybody do it.

02:19:50.000 We had two guys try to do it.

02:19:51.000 They were supposedly experts in it. 0.99

02:19:52.000 They couldn't do shit. 0.96

02:19:54.000 And I think there's a lot of people that aren't authentic. 0.99

02:19:59.000 That's true.

02:20:01.000 There's a lot of money in shenanigans.

02:20:03.000 There's a lot of money in palm reading.

02:20:05.000 Here's the thing.

02:20:05.000 The people that aren't going to charge you the money are probably the people that are actually doing something that is meaningful.

02:20:11.000 Maybe.

02:20:12.000 Or it might be like a Stephen King book where you drive down the street and see that neon light and it says fortune teller and you go in and it's some lady who sees through your soul and she does.

02:20:20.000 And she really does know things.

02:20:21.000 And it's just like, this is how she gets by with this magic gift.

02:20:24.000 You just pay her 20 bucks a pop. 1.00

02:20:25.000 And she just tells you crazy shit. 1.00

02:20:27.000 And you do what you do with that. 1.00

02:20:28.000 But she knows.

02:20:29.000 And no one ever believed she knows.

02:20:31.000 Because it doesn't make any sense. 1.00

02:20:32.000 This fucking lady on Ventura and Victory. 1.00

02:20:34.000 How the fuck does she know? 1.00

02:20:35.000 Tell us more, Joe. 1.00

02:20:36.000 How does she know?

02:20:37.000 How does she know all this?

02:20:38.000 She knows, man.

02:20:39.000 But she does.

02:20:40.000 Ventura doesn't intersect with Victory.

02:20:42.000 Oh, wow.

02:20:44.000 There's the catch.

02:20:45.000 Hmm.

02:20:47.000 So when you're in the police office, you're telling them, no, I'm telling you, the place was there.

02:20:51.000 It was real.

02:20:52.000 She was a real person.

02:20:54.000 I met her.

02:20:55.000 The Wilsons have been living on Ventura and Victory for 37 years, and they've never moved.

02:21:00.000 You get back to the house, and it's the house, and it's like...

02:21:03.000 Where did the fortune teller shot go?

02:21:07.000 Are you making fun of me right now?

02:21:08.000 No, I want to believe you right now.

02:21:10.000 Because we're going to talk about this at the barbecue.

02:21:12.000 Off mic, buddy.

02:21:14.000 So you really believe?

02:21:15.000 You believe in sidekicks?

02:21:17.000 I've had too many things that I can't explain that I'm always going to question, but I have.

02:21:22.000 Has anybody ever told you something was going to happen and then it happened? 1.00

02:21:25.000 I don't like that shit. 1.00

02:21:26.000 And I don't subscribe to that. 1.00

02:21:28.000 So you shut your mouth. 0.68

02:21:29.000 I don't subscribe to that.

02:21:30.000 Because I don't want someone to tell me my future.

02:21:33.000 I think that's unfair and I think it's disrespectful.

02:21:37.000 Disrespectful is a weird word to use.

02:21:38.000 The experiences I've had with these people were with people that have died that I've communicated with Whether through dreams or psychedelics and I had Questions,

02:21:54.000 but I didn't ask them and I waited to see if they would tell me and it's just kind of that sort of setup here's the thing it might be real and it might be that Real, what real is, is so ridiculous that it's almost like you can't bottle it,

02:22:10.000 you can't measure it, you can't put it on a scale, and it only exists in these brief moments.

02:22:15.000 And it comes and it goes and you'll never be able to prove it.

02:22:17.000 And it just comes and it goes and it makes you think, like, God, I think I really believe that really did happen.

02:22:22.000 And no one really knows and everybody just goes about their business, but it really did.

02:22:26.000 It really did tap in.

02:22:27.000 It really did talk to someone who's not there anymore.

02:22:30.000 I think whether you did or didn't is up to your...

02:22:38.000 Acceptance of the experience and whether it's your ego or something you can't explain and if it brings you comfort, that's great.

02:22:46.000 For sure, if it brings you comfort, right?

02:22:47.000 I mean, that's the same argument for religion. 1.00

02:22:49.000 You know, when people say that religion is bullshit, you go, well, okay, but it's bullshit that makes people happy. 1.00

02:22:54.000 If it makes people happy, then it's not bullshit. 1.00

02:22:57.000 It's bullshit that makes people happy and also controls people and does really terrible things. 0.99

02:23:01.000 So it's also... 0.99

02:23:02.000 But does it have to?

02:23:02.000 No.

02:23:03.000 Does it have to do all those things?

02:23:04.000 I mean, there's a lot of...

02:23:07.000 It's a very multifaceted subject.

02:23:10.000 Isn't it like sugar?

02:23:11.000 Sure.

02:23:12.000 Sugar kills a lot of people, but it also tastes delicious.

02:23:15.000 Yeah, I mean...

02:23:15.000 But you know what's funny?

02:23:18.000 I found out recently that Scientology religion is one of the main backers for Narcotics Anonymous.

02:23:29.000 They are?

02:23:31.000 Look it up.

02:23:32.000 I believe that.

02:23:33.000 Tell me I'm wrong.

02:23:33.000 Well, they definitely don't like psychiatric medicine.

02:23:37.000 And so that's a really interesting window into manipulation and trying to get people to subscribe to something.

02:23:45.000 And here's the thing. 1.00

02:23:46.000 There's a lot of fucking shit out there. 1.00

02:23:48.000 And I don't know what's right. 1.00

02:23:50.000 I can just speak to my own experiences and things that...

02:23:54.000 I absolutely question with so much thought and continue to do so from things that have happened years ago.

02:24:02.000 And I just...

02:24:03.000 I can't deny how I felt and what I've experienced.

02:24:07.000 And I want to keep living and understanding whatever it is.

02:24:12.000 If, you know, there's a reason why we're here or there isn't and we're just here.

02:24:17.000 But I'm not religious.

02:24:20.000 I feel a really...

02:24:23.000 I feel interested in religion and some of the things I've experienced over the years being raised Catholic.

02:24:31.000 And you're kind of talking about a religious experience.

02:24:33.000 Sure, sure.

02:24:34.000 When you say that word, you think that everyone's going to think a specific thing.

02:24:38.000 We've had this argument.

02:24:38.000 But it doesn't need...

02:24:40.000 Did we?

02:24:40.000 Are we arguing?

02:24:40.000 Because it's not really a religion to me.

02:24:42.000 It's not like some organized...

02:24:44.000 What's not a religion?

02:24:46.000 The spiritual, energetic exchange of information.

02:24:52.000 I guess I equate religion, and this is where we can all talk about this.

02:24:56.000 I am so...

02:24:57.000 I don't know if I'm right.

02:24:58.000 I'm not preaching, but...

02:25:00.000 Well, no one does, and no one knows if you're wrong, either.

02:25:02.000 But religion, to me, is like the Catholicism I was raised on that requires guilt and wrongfulness and sin and money, because you go to church and you put your money in the basket every Sunday, 1.00

02:25:18.000 and... 0.79

02:25:21.000 I've seen enough and I know enough about pedophilia within the Catholic Church that's undeniable. 0.99

02:25:26.000 You can't fucking deny anything. 0.99

02:25:27.000 But you're talking about organization. 0.99

02:25:28.000 Sure, I'm talking about organization.

02:25:29.000 And that's how I equate religion.

02:25:32.000 Sure, but I think to different people.

02:25:36.000 It's not the exact same, that Narcon Anon.

02:25:38.000 It's not.

02:25:39.000 Narcotics Anonymous is what the Scientology people have.

02:25:44.000 It's an organization that promotes the theories of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard regarding substance abuse.

02:25:52.000 Not the same thing as narcotics.

02:25:54.000 Thank you for clarifying.

02:25:56.000 I appreciate that.

02:25:57.000 All of L. Ron Hubbard's stuff, a lot of it came from other psychology lectures and texts and books and stuff.

02:26:08.000 If you read the rudimentary levels of L. Ron Hubbard's teachings, they're like amazing.

02:26:13.000 And then they start getting weirder and weirder.

02:26:16.000 And you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

02:26:18.000 It's really interesting.

02:26:19.000 And I think that's...

02:26:21.000 Even he didn't believe in psychics.

02:26:23.000 I know.

02:26:25.000 What are you saying?

02:26:27.000 I don't really believe in psychics either.

02:26:29.000 I just believe in my experiences.

02:26:31.000 I think that there's a difference.

02:26:33.000 I think there's a lot of...

02:26:35.000 I think you should question everything and then try to understand yourself the best that you can.

02:26:40.000 I think unique moments can be unique.

02:26:42.000 I think there's things that happen when you think about someone and the phone rings, and they can tell you all day long, that's a coincidence, man.

02:26:50.000 How often do you think about them and the phone doesn't ring?

02:26:53.000 You might be.

02:26:54.000 You might be right.

02:26:55.000 You might be right.

02:26:55.000 But there are some pretty unique moments that I'm not exactly convinced are measurable.

02:27:00.000 I don't know if they're measurable.

02:27:02.000 I think those unique moments when you think about someone and they text you, I don't necessarily think that there's been adequate studies done on that.

02:27:09.000 And I think there's a lot of people that have these contrarian ideologies that they really love to dismiss things like this.

02:27:16.000 And they really love to dismiss the potential connections that people have between each other.

02:27:20.000 But we know we have connections when we're near each other. 0.99

02:27:23.000 We know that some people can just look at you and you look at them and you're like, let's get the fuck out of here! 0.57

02:27:29.000 People have weird connections with others. 0.91

02:27:32.000 You also know when someone's upset at you and they're not being honest about it.

02:27:35.000 We have weird sort of ways of feeling each other out that don't necessarily fit on a scale.

02:27:42.000 They're not quantifiable, but they're there.

02:27:45.000 You can't measure them, but you feel them.

02:27:47.000 That's funny.

02:27:47.000 I'm reading this article about that kind of ties in music to that, just talking about So you're talking about our ability to read each other's facial expressions, emotional expressions, and that's a successful trait.

02:28:01.000 That's something that's part of the development of this stuff, right?

02:28:04.000 And basically, I'm just getting into it, but this article is just talking about how those...

02:28:09.000 It's just a lot of scientists are trying to understand, or people, like, why the fuck is music important?

02:28:14.000 Why is it such an obsession, a human obsession? 0.95

02:28:17.000 Music is a drug.

02:28:19.000 I mean, it certainly is.

02:28:20.000 Like, even, like, the other day I was watching Rocky IV. Rocky IV came on just out of nowhere.

02:28:25.000 I was flipping two.

02:28:26.000 And songs that I don't even think are good anymore.

02:28:29.000 You know, but I recognize the drug-like effect that, like, you know, one of those Rocky songs, those Survivor Rocky songs.

02:28:37.000 But it's a combination of the movie and the music.

02:28:39.000 Yes.

02:28:40.000 It's not just the music.

02:28:41.000 There's a visual.

02:28:42.000 But sometimes not.

02:28:43.000 Like, sometimes just the music.

02:28:45.000 You know, like, when I run...

02:28:47.000 Yeah.

02:28:48.000 When I run, and if I listen to music, I can go longer.

02:28:52.000 Oh, for sure, yeah.

02:28:54.000 What's that? 0.99

02:28:54.000 What the fuck's going on there? 0.99

02:28:55.000 How come you're not as tired when you're listening to... 1.00

02:28:58.000 Because you're having an emotional response.

02:28:59.000 And you're inspired, though.

02:29:01.000 You're inspired by something that was taught to you at a different time.

02:29:07.000 The rhythm of the music was ingrained in you at some point. 0.97

02:29:13.000 I can listen to Motley Crue, kickstart my heart, and I can get up any fucking hill. 1.00

02:29:17.000 I would imagine if you took an indigenous tribe and played rock music, they'd be like, what the fuck? 1.00

02:29:22.000 Because they had no idea what it was. 0.99

02:29:24.000 But maybe they wouldn't because there's rhythm and there's a lot of musical, tribal contributions to that area of your life.

02:29:36.000 I don't know.

02:29:38.000 Rhythm is a dancer.

02:29:43.000 Exactly.

02:29:44.000 Thanks for backing me up.

02:29:45.000 We're not off the rails, right?

02:29:46.000 We're good.

02:29:47.000 We're so good.

02:29:48.000 I'm not stoked.

02:29:49.000 This is consistent with what we usually do, if that's what you're saying.

02:29:52.000 I feel like this is our best one yet.

02:29:54.000 Maybe we've said that before.

02:29:56.000 I don't know.

02:29:57.000 I think we see that every time.

02:29:58.000 We haven't done one in a while.

02:29:59.000 No, it's been over two years.

02:30:01.000 No, almost two years. 1.00

02:30:02.000 Oh, well, shit. 1.00

02:30:04.000 Shit, damn. 1.00

02:30:05.000 You guys are still the only band I've ever worked with. 1.00

02:30:07.000 Come on.

02:30:08.000 Never worked with a band before.

02:30:09.000 Never did shows.

02:30:12.000 We did a couple shows.

02:30:13.000 Those were fun.

02:30:14.000 Such a blast.

02:30:15.000 They were so much fun.

02:30:16.000 Oh my god.

02:30:17.000 We had a new year's together.

02:30:19.000 You were so great. 1.00

02:30:21.000 People were trying to count down and you weren't done with your bit and you were like, fuck you, I'm not done. 0.99

02:30:27.000 And then you said, okay, now we can celebrate the new year. 1.00

02:30:31.000 It was amazing.

02:30:32.000 It was so great.

02:30:33.000 Well, it's in the middle of a bit.

02:30:35.000 People are like, well, it's time!

02:30:36.000 It's time!

02:30:38.000 I missed it by 10 seconds, folks.

02:30:40.000 Hang in there.

02:30:41.000 Just hang in there.

02:30:41.000 It was great.

02:30:42.000 Well, we did the End of the World show.

02:30:44.000 That was really fun.

02:30:45.000 Were there two New Year's shows?

02:30:46.000 December 21st, 2012 was the big one.

02:30:49.000 That was the first one we did.

02:30:50.000 We did the End of the World one with Stan Hope and Joey.

02:30:52.000 Was it New Year's, though?

02:30:53.000 It wasn't New Year's.

02:30:54.000 No, that was December 21st.

02:30:55.000 That was the End of the Mayan calendar.

02:30:57.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:30:57.000 Yeah, we planned that one out years in advance.

02:31:01.000 We're still here, guys.

02:31:01.000 Yeah, we knew what we were going to do.

02:31:03.000 Stanhope and I talked about doing that, like, because he got tired of me talking about the Mayan calendar.

02:31:08.000 Because he was like, let's fucking promise we're going to do a show December 21st.

02:31:12.000 I'm like, let's do it. 0.92

02:31:13.000 Let's get Diaz on board.

02:31:14.000 And, you know, I met you guys.

02:31:15.000 I'm like, let's have music. 0.98

02:31:17.000 Let's have a fucking crazy end of the world. 0.98

02:31:19.000 It was awesome. 0.99

02:31:19.000 December 24th. 0.99

02:31:20.000 And then life went on for five more years.

02:31:22.000 Everything was fine.

02:31:24.000 Hey, thanks for bringing us on.

02:31:25.000 That was a lot of fun.

02:31:26.000 It was fun for us, too.

02:31:28.000 It was fun.

02:31:28.000 How did you get the Alex Jones one to be 9-11?

02:31:33.000 I had to plan it out.

02:31:34.000 I had to fit some podcasts in.

02:31:37.000 I had to do extra ones the week before, just so I could get to number 9-11 with Alex.

02:31:42.000 Yeah, that sounds like a long...

02:31:45.000 Well, I could have had him on earlier, and I would have definitely had him on again for 9-11, but having him on the first time for 9-11.

02:31:51.000 And to this day, that's our biggest podcast by far.

02:31:55.000 That was crazy.

02:31:56.000 By maybe five million downloads. 1.00

02:31:58.000 Holy fuck. 0.99

02:31:59.000 Yeah, but here's the conspiracy. 1.00

02:32:00.000 Is that right?

02:32:01.000 Am I saying it correctly?

02:32:02.000 What is the actual number?

02:32:04.000 It was probably at 16 now.

02:32:06.000 I didn't check in the last two or three days.

02:32:07.000 Okay, so 16 million dollars.

02:32:10.000 Here's what's crazy.

02:32:11.000 It never charted on iTunes.

02:32:13.000 The iTunes charts magically went down while the Alex Jones podcast was in the queue and they stayed down for over a week.

02:32:20.000 Conspiracy theory!

02:32:21.000 And then when it came back up, podcasts that got way less downloads than Alex's were rated much higher than his.

02:32:30.000 And they had happened before and after his.

02:32:32.000 Oh, I do remember this.

02:32:33.000 Like, his was the only podcast that was left out of the ratings loop.

02:32:37.000 Like, for sure, it would have been the number one podcast in the country.

02:32:40.000 It was the number one podcast we did by a mile.

02:32:42.000 And I've had the number one podcast before.

02:32:44.000 It's like the number one podcast episode.

02:32:46.000 That was more than five million downloads more than any other podcast I had before.

02:32:51.000 That's crazy.

02:32:51.000 So, for sure, probably would have been number one.

02:32:53.000 That's a lot of downloads.

02:32:54.000 Unless they had, like, one of those serial episodes or something that came out that week.

02:32:58.000 Ooh, S-Town.

02:32:59.000 So there you go.

02:33:00.000 And it's very likely that someone's trying to hold Alex Jones back. 1.00

02:33:04.000 And that just stokes his fucking fire. 0.99

02:33:07.000 They don't understand. 1.00

02:33:07.000 It's the Streisand effect. 1.00

02:33:09.000 Can't stoke the fire of Alex Jones. 0.99

02:33:12.000 Even Megyn Kelly's fucked now. 1.00

02:33:13.000 Her show's going down the toilet. 1.00

02:33:15.000 What happened in the aftermath?

02:33:17.000 Here's the problem.

02:33:20.000 Megyn Kelly was a Fox News person.

02:33:22.000 She left Fox News to go to NBC. NBC is thought of as CNBC, which is thought of as fake news by these right-wing Trump Trumpians.

02:33:33.000 What would you call them?

02:33:35.000 Trumpers.

02:33:36.000 So as soon as she goes over there, they're not going to listen to her.

02:33:39.000 And then to the liberals, she's Fox News. 0.98

02:33:42.000 So they're not interested in her either.

02:33:44.000 And then she does this podcast with Alex Jones, or this interview, rather, with Alex Jones.

02:33:47.000 And in the interview with Alex Jones, she says, I'm not going to paint you out as a monster.

02:33:53.000 I'm going to give you a fair...

02:33:54.000 She's saying all these things like she's going to throw softballs this way.

02:33:56.000 I want people to get to know you.

02:33:58.000 And he releases all that.

02:34:00.000 And he's like, hey, this is that person.

02:34:01.000 And then the ratings just keep...

02:34:02.000 Plomiting.

02:34:04.000 Plomiting.

02:34:04.000 If you want to be an ice princess, you've got to be on Fox News.

02:34:08.000 Full ice. 0.99

02:34:09.000 If you want to sell guns, you want to be a Second Amendment proponent with fucking cold blue steel eyes and smooth, shiny legs and nice shoes and tiny skirts, you've got to be on Fox News. 1.00

02:34:21.000 How do you get smooth, shiny legs? 1.00

02:34:23.000 Stay in your lane.

02:34:23.000 Shave them.

02:34:24.000 You gotta shave them down.

02:34:25.000 Really?

02:34:25.000 Constantly.

02:34:25.000 All day long.

02:34:26.000 Can't just wear pants?

02:34:27.000 Probably oil them up, too.

02:34:29.000 Yeah, you have illegal immigrants. 0.99

02:34:30.000 How do you do it, Ben?

02:34:31.000 It's just kind of a natural thing for me.

02:34:33.000 Oh, really?

02:34:33.000 You're hairless?

02:34:34.000 And the legs?

02:34:35.000 Somebody's gotta be like that.

02:34:37.000 There's gotta be somebody out there with no leg hair.

02:34:41.000 I'm sure it happens.

02:34:42.000 It's called...

02:34:42.000 Purity?

02:34:44.000 Purity.

02:34:45.000 Is that what it's called?

02:34:46.000 Sure is, Ben.

02:34:47.000 It's funny you brought it up. 0.99

02:34:49.000 One day we're all going to have no hair and they're going to look back at pictures of us and they're going to go, what the fuck were they doing? 0.99

02:34:54.000 What is that bald human race? 1.00

02:34:56.000 Facial hair and shit. 1.00

02:34:57.000 Tattoos. 1.00

02:34:57.000 Everyone looks the same. 1.00

02:34:59.000 No eyebrows.

02:35:00.000 Eyelashes.

02:35:01.000 I really think that's the future.

02:35:02.000 I think the future is those aliens from Close Encounters.

02:35:04.000 I think the reason why we have those archetypal images in our head is since we know that's where we're going.

02:35:09.000 Have you ever talked to Paul Hellyer or looked at his stuff at all?

02:35:12.000 Who's that?

02:35:13.000 He's like the Canadian alien dude. 0.59

02:35:16.000 They're all the same.

02:35:18.000 But he was part of the government.

02:35:21.000 Oh, the government.

02:35:22.000 Well, then for sure he's telling the truth.

02:35:23.000 He specifically talks about the different types of aliens.

02:35:27.000 Oh, well that makes him even more legit.

02:35:29.000 Come on, Joe!

02:35:30.000 For sure, with no evidence, he definitely would tell us all about these different types of aliens.

02:35:33.000 Yeah, you should look into it.

02:35:34.000 You might want to have him on.

02:35:36.000 I have, unfortunately.

02:35:37.000 And I'm not saying there's no aliens.

02:35:39.000 I don't know him, but I know the whole alien.

02:35:41.000 Is it because you're an alien?

02:35:42.000 No.

02:35:42.000 And you don't want people to know?

02:35:44.000 I think there's a business in telling people that you know about the aliens.

02:35:46.000 It's okay.

02:35:46.000 We accept you for who you are.

02:35:48.000 The problem is there's a business in telling people that you know about the aliens.

02:35:51.000 Ex-defense minister.

02:35:53.000 Aliens would give us more tech if we'd stop wars. 0.84

02:35:55.000 All right, let's play this.

02:35:56.000 I want to hear this.

02:35:58.000 What's that?

02:35:58.000 It's on video.

02:35:59.000 No, it's not, but it's on RT. But why is he the one dude?

02:36:02.000 He was on RT. He's a special dude.

02:36:04.000 Why don't I talk to other people?

02:36:06.000 But it says on RT, proof of alien's presence overwhelming.

02:36:09.000 He's like the chosen one.

02:36:09.000 No, that's just a picture of it.

02:36:11.000 That's just a screenshot.

02:36:12.000 Oh, I see.

02:36:12.000 What, the Nintendo part?

02:36:13.000 But he was on, right?

02:36:14.000 Yeah.

02:36:14.000 So there's got to be a video of it, no?

02:36:16.000 There's many videos of Paul Hellyer.

02:36:18.000 I've watched them.

02:36:19.000 Do you buy it when you listen to him talk?

02:36:21.000 It makes me question.

02:36:22.000 I like to hear...

02:36:23.000 I'm interested.

02:36:23.000 I like to hear his voice to see if my crazy radar goes off.

02:36:27.000 Just give me a little piece.

02:36:28.000 Tell us, Wiseman.

02:36:29.000 Tell us, Wiseman, what you feel. 1.00

02:36:32.000 You got two different shit playing. 1.00

02:36:34.000 Jamie's a tabber. 1.00

02:36:36.000 Well, because I know that they are.

02:36:38.000 Okay.

02:36:39.000 As a matter of fact, they've been visiting our planet for thousands of years.

02:36:46.000 And one of the cases that would interest you most, if you'll give me two or three minutes to answer, is during the Cold War in 1961, there were about 50 UFOs in formation flying south from Russia across Europe,

02:37:01.000 and the Supreme Allied Commander was very concerned and about ready to press the panic button when they turned around and went back over the North Pole.

02:37:13.000 So they decided to do an investigation and they investigated for three years and they decided that with absolute certainty that four species, four different species at least, had been visiting this planet for thousands of years.

02:37:32.000 So we have a long history of UFOs and of course there's been a lot more activity in the last few decades since we invented the atomic bomb and they're very concerned about that and the fact that we might use it again and because the whole cosmos is a unity And it affects not just us,

02:37:55.000 but other people in the cosmos.

02:37:57.000 They're very much afraid that we might be stupid enough to start using atomic weapons again, and this would be very bad for us and for them as well.

02:38:06.000 So no serious scientist has ever publicly confirmed evidence of an encounter with extraterrestrials.

02:38:12.000 Why would scientists not confirm the facts if they exist?

02:38:17.000 I'm afraid they must go out of their way not to find out.

02:38:20.000 Because if they did, you know, even 10% of the amount of research I've done in the last eight years, they would be as convinced as I am.

02:38:28.000 I mean, they could do it even faster.

02:38:31.000 It might take them a little longer when they didn't have a military background.

02:38:35.000 But there are so many wonderful books that tell these stories.

02:38:41.000 And they've been authenticated.

02:38:43.000 The sightings have been authenticated by more than one witness and also by radar.

02:38:48.000 Okay. 0.99

02:38:49.000 It's the same horseshit. 0.97

02:38:50.000 They've been authenticated by witnesses. 0.98

02:38:52.000 That doesn't mean anything.

02:38:53.000 There's no real video.

02:38:54.000 There's no real photographs.

02:38:56.000 Nothing looks good.

02:38:57.000 A lot of people were talking about it, but when you think about how many human beings there are, there's 300 and 20 million plus in America. 0.97

02:39:04.000 How many of them are crazy?

02:39:06.000 At least 1%. 0.99

02:39:07.000 That's 3,200,000 crazy people.

02:39:10.000 How many of them really believe what they're saying? 0.55

02:39:13.000 At least half. 1.00

02:39:14.000 So you got a lot of fucking crazy people. 0.99

02:39:18.000 Well, this is one video, so I've watched a couple of his, and it's interesting to think about in terms of like, we're here. 0.99

02:39:25.000 It's all interesting to think about, but as soon as someone starts talking like that, he says they've been authenticated, there was more than one witness, that means nothing.

02:39:32.000 Sure. 1.00

02:39:32.000 People are full of shit. 1.00

02:39:33.000 You just, I saw something. 1.00

02:39:34.000 Doesn't mean anything.

02:39:35.000 You might have, you might not have.

02:39:37.000 But if he's 100% all in and he hasn't had a UFO experience himself that he's talking about, well, then he seems gullible.

02:39:44.000 Totally fair.

02:39:44.000 I talked to a lot of those people.

02:39:46.000 I talked to those people that had been...

02:39:48.000 I talked to people that had implants pulled out of their body.

02:39:51.000 I talked to people that were experts.

02:39:53.000 I have seen...

02:39:53.000 Oh, oh, it's gone.

02:39:54.000 What does it say?

02:39:55.000 You've seen one?

02:39:55.000 Yeah.

02:39:56.000 He said he's seen one.

02:39:57.000 Joe.

02:39:58.000 Joe.

02:39:59.000 Well, it's something that gives me a lot of thought.

02:40:01.000 I don't know.

02:40:01.000 I haven't seen one, but I'm curious to know.

02:40:04.000 But what he just said there did not impress me.

02:40:06.000 Because he said that multiple people had seen it, like more than one person had confirmed it.

02:40:11.000 That doesn't mean anything.

02:40:13.000 Like, you could have five guys that lie.

02:40:15.000 That doesn't mean anything.

02:40:16.000 They might tell the truth.

02:40:17.000 I don't think so.

02:40:17.000 Italians call them ufos.

02:40:19.000 My people.

02:40:20.000 Do they?

02:40:21.000 Yeah, ufos. 1.00

02:40:22.000 Yeah.

02:40:22.000 I've never heard that.

02:40:23.000 It was a joke.

02:40:24.000 Oh, wow.

02:40:25.000 Two in a row.

02:40:28.000 How'd I do?

02:40:29.000 Harry Potter was a fail, but I came back around.

02:40:32.000 It was an UFO! Are we still friends?

02:40:37.000 Yes, 100%.

02:40:38.000 It's not to dismiss the possibility of UFOs.

02:40:42.000 It's just that you've got to really be careful with how people talk about stuff.

02:40:45.000 Sure.

02:40:47.000 You've got to be, you know, if someone starts talking that they know something and they...

02:40:51.000 Well, that's one video.

02:40:52.000 I've watched a few of his videos and they were really interesting.

02:40:55.000 He was speaking before Canadian Congress talking about this and I've watched a lot of it in its entirety.

02:41:03.000 It's just worth thinking about, that's all.

02:41:05.000 I don't know what the truth is, but I do think...

02:41:08.000 Sure, please.

02:41:08.000 Yeah, always.

02:41:09.000 Just the fact that he has a lot of videos out there makes me wonder.

02:41:12.000 Because that means that he's making a living doing this.

02:41:14.000 Or this is a gig.

02:41:16.000 This is a thing he does.

02:41:17.000 Not when you're speaking before the Canadian Congress.

02:41:21.000 Of course.

02:41:21.000 If he does a bunch of these other interviews as well, that allows him to speak.

02:41:24.000 That's his thing.

02:41:25.000 Sure.

02:41:25.000 His thing is I'm the guy who knows everything about UFOs.

02:41:28.000 Right.

02:41:28.000 But if you were talking to scientists, they would say, show us your evidence.

02:41:33.000 Right.

02:41:33.000 Always.

02:41:34.000 There's nothing.

02:41:35.000 That's the thing about these guys.

02:41:36.000 They all have stories, and no one has any evidence.

02:41:38.000 Yeah.

02:41:40.000 I mean, I don't have the evidence.

02:41:41.000 But it feels good to think that they're out there, right? 1.00

02:41:43.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00

02:41:44.000 I want to know. 1.00

02:41:45.000 I want to know stuff. 0.98

02:41:46.000 I mean, like, look at all the shit that we have, and we're here, and all the things that we, all the resources that we use, and we're one planet in a universe full of other planets. 0.97

02:42:00.000 That's all. 0.99

02:42:01.000 There it is, way up there.

02:42:03.000 I'm not afraid to say that I'm curious.

02:42:05.000 I think everybody is. 0.99

02:42:06.000 And I think people generally, it feels like a normal thing to be like, yeah, they're fucking out there. 0.93

02:42:11.000 But what I think is hard to accept is... 0.98

02:42:13.000 I don't have hard evidence.

02:42:14.000 What's hard to accept is that they're communicating with us and only certain people like Paul Hellyer know. 1.00

02:42:19.000 Well, maybe he does know, and maybe he has seen something, but maybe he's full of shit. 0.78

02:42:23.000 The problem is, if you haven't seen it, and I haven't, or at least I don't think I have, and you're talking about these things, how much time you spend thinking and talking about them, it gets to become almost like a pathology. 0.99

02:42:36.000 Why are you so invested in something that you don't even know is real?

02:42:38.000 But it becomes a thing that people are into, like they're into baseball scores, or they're into bowling.

02:42:43.000 They get into UFOs.

02:42:45.000 They get into it.

02:42:46.000 And then they start, I mean, this dude's obviously making a career out of it.

02:42:49.000 He's out there traveling.

02:42:50.000 I don't know that.

02:42:50.000 I mean, that's something to investigate upon this conversation, but it's made me think for years.

02:42:57.000 Like, I've seen some Paul Hellyer videos, and I'm just like, wow.

02:42:59.000 Okay.

02:43:00.000 And it makes me think, that's all.

02:43:02.000 Maybe. 0.99

02:43:02.000 And I will always be curious about aliens and psychics and all the shit. 0.99

02:43:07.000 It's so controversial. 0.97

02:43:08.000 I'm not superlative in that way where it's like, yes or no.

02:43:11.000 I just don't know.

02:43:12.000 I don't know either.

02:43:13.000 But I want to know.

02:43:13.000 I'd love to keep learning.

02:43:14.000 I would too.

02:43:15.000 But I think that with guys like this, when you're talking about a subject that's this...

02:43:20.000 Mercurial.

02:43:20.000 This is such a difficult subject.

02:43:22.000 I think it's very important to only talk about the actual facts, like what we know or what we don't know.

02:43:26.000 If he wants to talk about his own personal experience, that's one thing.

02:43:30.000 But when you start talking about stories that you heard, like, okay. 1.00

02:43:33.000 People are full of shit from the beginning of time. 1.00

02:43:35.000 I've been telling stupid stories about werewolves and fucking vampires. 1.00

02:43:39.000 I think that's how a lot of damage is done, too. 1.00

02:43:40.000 It's like...

02:43:41.000 It's all derivative passed down.

02:43:44.000 Like, oh, I heard this from this and this and this, but you weren't there, so you don't know.

02:43:47.000 I'm reading this book about our brains and how our recollection of memories and eyewitnesses are usually inaccurate because you don't really remember like you think you did, and your brain lies to you and tells you that you saw something a certain way.

02:44:05.000 And even that, like...

02:44:07.000 I don't know.

02:44:08.000 That's very important for people to know.

02:44:10.000 Absolutely.

02:44:11.000 There's a lot of people out there that think their memories are super accurate.

02:44:13.000 Well, and this ties into being wrong.

02:44:15.000 This ties into being like, I didn't see it the way that I think I did, and I might have made a mistake, and I'm sorry.

02:44:23.000 That's okay.

02:44:25.000 That's important, too, because I think a lot of times when you have some big statement about something that you believe in, or if you want to get down to having some sort of And then you get dramatic and emotional and try to sell it.

02:44:45.000 You're selling it like you're running for Congress.

02:44:49.000 $40,000 a day.

02:44:50.000 Frightening.

02:44:53.000 It really is.

02:44:55.000 It is.

02:44:55.000 People that are trying to convince people...

02:44:58.000 I mean, that's one of the reasons why being a president is so crazy.

02:45:00.000 Because you're basically trying to trick people into liking you.

02:45:03.000 You're trying to be charismatic.

02:45:04.000 And that's what sells the most.

02:45:06.000 Do presidents ever say, I made a mistake?

02:45:07.000 Do they ever say, I'm sorry, I messed up?

02:45:09.000 I'm sure somebody must have.

02:45:10.000 Publicly?

02:45:11.000 I don't know.

02:45:12.000 I think there's moments.

02:45:13.000 I think it's probably nice.

02:45:15.000 That'd be really interesting.

02:45:16.000 It's going to have to happen someday.

02:45:20.000 Someday.

02:45:22.000 Sing it, Joe.

02:45:23.000 I don't know which one that is, but I'm with you.

02:45:25.000 I bet you can.

02:45:26.000 I think you sound great.

02:45:27.000 I can't.

02:45:31.000 You sound great.

02:45:32.000 No, you guys sound great.

02:45:34.000 What?

02:45:34.000 Come on.

02:45:36.000 Why don't you guys sing us a song?

02:45:37.000 Do you want to do that?

02:45:38.000 Want to rem this up?

02:45:39.000 We've been doing for three hours and 20 minutes.

02:45:42.000 We should sing a song.

02:45:43.000 And then we should go make some food.

02:45:46.000 We started a little late.

02:45:47.000 Yeah, but it's 520. Yeah, we're at 245. Oh, really?

02:45:52.000 Oh.

02:45:52.000 Why don't you start at 2 o'clock?

02:45:55.000 We didn't?

02:45:56.000 Oh, we did another podcast afterward.

02:45:58.000 I mean, we did another pool game.

02:45:59.000 We did two.

02:45:59.000 We like broke it in half.

02:46:02.000 Ben, what do you want to play?

02:46:04.000 Whatever.

02:46:05.000 So we have solo records coming out. 0.99

02:46:07.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:46:09.000 Do you guys practice together with your solo shit? 1.00

02:46:11.000 We did. 1.00

02:46:12.000 We did because we support each other.

02:46:14.000 We sure did.

02:46:15.000 And do.

02:46:16.000 My record comes out August 11th.

02:46:18.000 That's my birthday.

02:46:19.000 Is it really?

02:46:20.000 Yes. 1.00

02:46:20.000 Shut up! 1.00

02:46:21.000 Yes. 1.00

02:46:22.000 What, Joe?

02:46:23.000 This is like an omen.

02:46:24.000 Yes.

02:46:25.000 You want to come to my release on August 10th in LA? Yes.

02:46:29.000 You are welcome.

02:46:30.000 Alright, awesome. 0.97

02:46:32.000 Shit, I don't have a release date. 1.00

02:46:34.000 I've got to get my shit together. 1.00

02:46:35.000 Ben made a beautiful record. 1.00

02:46:37.000 Ben made a fucking awesome record. 0.99

02:46:39.000 I'm smoking too much weed, Ben. 1.00

02:46:40.000 I'm smoking too much weed, not scheduling shit. 1.00

02:46:42.000 Blowing off meetings. 1.00

02:46:44.000 Listen, man.

02:46:46.000 I just need my music, man.

02:46:48.000 Let's play your song first.

02:46:50.000 Oh, jeez.

02:46:51.000 You want to do that?

02:46:51.000 Yeah, let's do it.

02:46:52.000 A lot of pressure.

02:46:53.000 Getting deep here.

02:46:55.000 I couldn't.

02:46:55.000 I'm not ready.

02:46:56.000 I couldn't possibly...

02:46:57.000 Oh, you're not going to play on it?

02:47:03.000 No, I'm going to sing.

02:47:04.000 Okay, here we go.

02:47:05.000 You can do the instrumental part.

02:47:09.000 What's this called?

02:47:10.000 It's called Everlasting Peace. 1.00

02:47:11.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:47:12.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:47:14.000 Sat Nam. 1.00

02:47:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:47:17.000 Here we go.

02:47:17.000 Some days I'll wake up in a sweat, body's wet from the tension.

02:47:23.000 Baby, with all these cheap thrills from tangible achievements weighing heavy on my mind.

02:47:36.000 But time has shown me you're the only one who could bring me everlasting peace.

02:47:45.000 Time has shown me you're the only one who can bring me everlasting peace.

02:48:01.000 It's like a path I'll walk Lift me up like daytime talk Like arena rock And I'll sing it to you Soft and sweet and straight from the heart So there's no questions that time has shown me You're the only one who can bring me everlasting peace Time has shown me you're the only one who can bring me everlasting peace,

02:48:31.000 everlasting peace.

02:48:38.000 There'd be a violin solo, but we don't have the violin right now.

02:48:42.000 We'll skip that part.

02:48:46.000 Say it till I don't mean it.

02:48:50.000 Don't wanna compromise Don't wanna lose myself in some disguise But I know Yeah, I know I know I know I know The time has shown me You're the only one who can bring me Everlasting peace Time has shown me You're

02:49:21.000 the only one who can bring me everlasting peace.

02:49:26.000 Everlasting peace.

02:49:29.000 Everlasting peace.

02:49:35.000 Dude.

02:49:36.000 You guys have such a good sound together.

02:49:41.000 It's two people that have been working together for a long time.

02:49:45.000 You guys know each other's sounds.

02:49:48.000 Might have messed that up a little bit for Ben, I'm sorry.

02:49:51.000 That'd make a difference.

02:49:51.000 How'd you mess it up?

02:49:53.000 Oh, you know, it's new stuff.

02:49:55.000 It's like...

02:49:55.000 I'm just gonna shut my mouth.

02:49:57.000 Shut that mouth. 0.99

02:49:58.000 And open it up. 1.00

02:49:59.000 With singing.

02:50:01.000 Okay!

02:50:03.000 We can do now.

02:50:07.000 This is my single off my new record that comes out on your birthday.

02:50:11.000 August 11th.

02:50:11.000 It's called Ghost in My Bed.

02:50:14.000 Um, there's a music video out for it now, if anyone wants to see it.

02:50:17.000 Where does someone get that?

02:50:18.000 On the YouTube.

02:50:19.000 Is that okay?

02:50:20.000 It's on YouTube.

02:50:21.000 YouTube!

02:50:22.000 And, uh, coincidentally, it is KCRW's tune of the day today. 1.00

02:50:26.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:50:27.000 I don't even know how that was possible. 1.00

02:50:31.000 It's a little out.

02:50:32.000 It's a little out.

02:50:33.000 Okay, I'm gonna tune it up like a real professional.

02:50:36.000 You tune it up with your phone?

02:50:37.000 Oh, yeah.

02:50:40.000 Really?

02:50:41.000 Yes, Joseph.

02:50:42.000 They have these things that tune the instruments.

02:50:46.000 What is it on your phone?

02:50:47.000 Like, I'm totally ignorant to this.

02:50:49.000 What is this?

02:50:50.000 Do you see it?

02:50:51.000 It's like a...

02:50:51.000 It's a microphone.

02:50:52.000 Yeah, tracking the frequency.

02:50:54.000 Right.

02:50:56.000 What is it called?

02:50:56.000 It's just an app.

02:50:57.000 It's a guitar tune.

02:50:58.000 There's hundreds of them.

02:50:59.000 Oh, wow.

02:51:00.000 There's a bunch of them, huh?

02:51:01.000 Here, what are you singing right now?

02:51:04.000 Wow, and it works off of the microphone on your phone the same way one would work like in a studio.

02:51:08.000 Is this okay, like sonically?

02:51:11.000 Yeah, it's pretty good.

02:51:11.000 I mean, we could be in a better situation.

02:51:13.000 It's pretty good though.

02:51:14.000 Should I give it another angle?

02:51:16.000 No, that's fine.

02:51:16.000 That's fine.

02:51:16.000 Alright, okay.

02:51:18.000 You want to do this?

02:51:22.000 Wait, should I get my pick or should I go fingers?

02:51:27.000 You get your pick.

02:51:28.000 Get your pick like a real...

02:51:29.000 Do you always have a pick with you?

02:51:31.000 Are you sure?

02:51:32.000 No, because I'm playing all fingers these days.

02:51:34.000 Are you sure?

02:51:35.000 What's that?

02:51:36.000 There might be one.

02:51:36.000 Yeah, there is.

02:51:55.000 There's a ghost in my bed Screwing with my head Stomping around my room Drinking all my booze he makes me toss and turn my stomach churn and he laughs at me thinks it's so funny He

02:52:33.000 drives my car and says, hold on child The road we're on is winding wild We got busted wheels,

02:52:49.000 dead ending I will haunt you till you're lying still He always gets me good and wasted I knew it from the start The first time I tasted the darkness When

02:53:19.000 he kissed my mouth I'm his heart And he's my way out Out He pulls me in My face on his chest He ain't wearing his shirt 1.00

02:53:50.000 I ain't wearing my dress He spills tequila Into my mouth And we hit the town Tear that motherfucker down Cause he always gives I loved it from the start. 0.99

02:54:15.000 The first time I tasted the darkness when He kissed my mouth. 1.00

02:54:25.000 Oh, yeah, He's my way out.

02:54:56.000 Yeah.

02:55:47.000 KCRW's Song of the Day.

02:55:48.000 Suzanne Santo goes to my bed. 0.64

02:55:53.000 Thanks for having us.

02:55:56.000 My pleasure.

02:55:58.000 I took my headphones off.

02:56:00.000 I hope I didn't ruin the whole thing.

02:56:01.000 No, it was awesome.

02:56:02.000 It was beautiful.

02:56:03.000 Perfect.

02:56:04.000 Don't say a word.

02:56:05.000 Everyone's fine.

02:56:07.000 That was fun.

02:56:10.000 Should we do more or should we go eat?

02:56:12.000 It's up to you, dude.

02:56:14.000 What do you want to do?

02:56:17.000 Want to do one more song?

02:56:18.000 Well, here's the thing.

02:56:19.000 We're going to be on a TV show.

02:56:20.000 Did we tell you about that?

02:56:23.000 On August 3rd, we're on a show on TBS called The Guest Book.

02:56:27.000 And we wrote a bunch of music for it.

02:56:29.000 And we are on every episode of this half-hour comedy.

02:56:34.000 What?

02:56:34.000 Every episode?

02:56:35.000 Yeah.

02:56:36.000 I play the mail lady who delivers the mail and Ben plays the exterminator.

02:56:40.000 Wait a minute.

02:56:41.000 You guys, you put music and you're acting on the show too?

02:56:44.000 We got paid as actors.

02:56:46.000 What is this show?

02:56:47.000 What is it about?

02:56:48.000 So there was a show called My Name is Earl.

02:56:50.000 You know that show?

02:56:50.000 Yes.

02:56:51.000 Love it.

02:56:51.000 Okay, so the guy Greg Garcia- Oh, Greg loves you.

02:56:53.000 Joe, by the way, Greg Garcia loves you and you should have him on the show.

02:56:57.000 He's amazing.

02:56:58.000 I would definitely have him on.

02:56:58.000 I love that guy.

02:56:59.000 He's so wonderful.

02:57:00.000 We talked about doing something.

02:57:01.000 I had a meeting with him a long time ago.

02:57:03.000 You should have him on the show. 0.87

02:57:05.000 I can help fucking make that connection so it can Ben Joffey. 0.95

02:57:09.000 Okay, I would love to. 0.99

02:57:10.000 I like that guy.

02:57:12.000 Yeah, he's a great dude.

02:57:12.000 So what happened?

02:57:14.000 So they needed a band.

02:57:16.000 I guess they were looking at kind of like a spur-of-the-moment thing.

02:57:18.000 Greg was like, okay, I'm thinking there's going to be a band that closes out every episode, kind of transitions between the episodes.

02:57:25.000 We play in the strip club.

02:57:26.000 And a friend of ours...

02:57:27.000 Oh my god! 1.00

02:57:28.000 Oh shit, that's the show. 1.00

02:57:30.000 Oh my god! 1.00

02:57:31.000 Michael Rappaport, Jamie Presley...

02:57:34.000 This is crazy. 1.00

02:57:35.000 Oh, damn. 1.00

02:57:36.000 Now I want to watch this show. 0.99

02:57:37.000 There's a trailer now, Ben!

02:57:38.000 Oh, love him so much.

02:57:40.000 Did you guys work with Jamie?

02:57:42.000 Yeah, one scene.

02:57:43.000 We got to do a scene at AA with her.

02:57:45.000 She's so nice.

02:57:45.000 It was really fun.

02:57:46.000 She is awesome.

02:57:47.000 I did a terrible movie with her way back in the day.

02:57:50.000 It never went anywhere.

02:57:50.000 What was it called?

02:57:51.000 I don't remember, but she was super nice.

02:57:54.000 Oh, Danny Pudi.

02:57:55.000 Ugh.

02:57:57.000 He's better. 1.00

02:57:59.000 What the fuck is this? 0.98

02:58:01.000 The guest book premieres August 3rd. 0.99

02:58:03.000 And it's on TBS? Go watch it, folks.

02:58:05.000 Look, it's got all the things I want.

02:58:06.000 Weirdos in a log cabin.

02:58:08.000 Boom.

02:58:08.000 We're going to play a song that didn't make it on the show, but we don't have to.

02:58:12.000 Hey, what the fuck happened to that song, Punk Kid? 0.84

02:58:14.000 Like, where is that at? 0.86

02:58:16.000 What's the status of that song?

02:58:17.000 That's not like Honey Honey's fourth record when we're ready to make it.

02:58:19.000 That is a great song.

02:58:21.000 And that song, like the riff from that song, was on my Denver comedy special, Rocky Mountain High.

02:58:27.000 Thanks, Joe.

02:58:28.000 Yeah, my pleasure.

02:58:29.000 Thank you.

02:58:30.000 But I love that song. 0.97

02:58:31.000 That song was fucking great. 0.98

02:58:33.000 Like, what happened? 0.99

02:58:35.000 Well, on our last record...

02:58:37.000 It was a snafu, correct?

02:58:38.000 There was some kind of quasi-snafu...

02:58:40.000 I think this is label politics a little bit.

02:58:43.000 Like, it was a little more rock and roll, and it wasn't as Americana, and it just...

02:58:47.000 It was our choice to keep it off eventually.

02:58:49.000 It turned around and around and around.

02:58:51.000 But this was a song that we...

02:58:53.000 This was a couple years ago.

02:58:54.000 We came out here to work with a great dude named Keefis.

02:58:57.000 And we just did a set.

02:59:00.000 And there was that and a couple other songs that we did that were ours.

02:59:04.000 We owned this music.

02:59:04.000 It was one of the things where we owned it and they didn't want to pay for it.

02:59:08.000 They didn't want to...

02:59:08.000 So we were like, we're going to keep it then.

02:59:09.000 If we put it on a record, they would have owned it and not have... 0.95

02:59:12.000 So we were like, fuck, we put all this effort into this song and we love this song. 0.95

02:59:16.000 But it was just that thing where we had to fight for it. 0.98

02:59:20.000 And it's a great song and it's not going anywhere.

02:59:21.000 It'll come out eventually.

02:59:24.000 That business is dirty.

02:59:26.000 People don't know about that song though.

02:59:29.000 That song bought our Elon Musk. 0.89

02:59:31.000 Do you guys play it somewhere?

02:59:33.000 We played it here.

02:59:34.000 Oh, that's right.

02:59:35.000 They play it here.

02:59:35.000 Man, look at you with your pink shirt.

02:59:37.000 Damn, that's back in the dizzy. 1.00

02:59:40.000 I know. 1.00

02:59:40.000 Lost those glasses. 1.00

02:59:41.000 It never made it on anything else other than that YouTube video?

02:59:44.000 Is it on anything else where people can listen to it?

02:59:47.000 Well, we put it out.

02:59:48.000 People downloaded it.

02:59:49.000 We used it to raise money for this vehicle.

02:59:52.000 So we could buy a car.

02:59:55.000 So only you guys own it.

02:59:57.000 So if we played it, it wouldn't trip any alarms or anything, right?

03:00:02.000 No, you can play it anytime you want. 1.00

03:00:03.000 Let's play that shit right now. 1.00

03:00:05.000 Go cook. 1.00

03:00:07.000 Can you find it?

03:00:11.000 Not the version they played here.

03:00:13.000 Let's see if there's another version of it that you can find, like the pure studio version, because it's so good.

03:00:18.000 That was a cool one.

03:00:19.000 I love that song.

03:00:22.000 That was like one of my favorites.

03:00:23.000 And when your new album came out, I was like, where's the song?

03:00:25.000 Where's Punk Kid?

03:00:26.000 It was a big debate.

03:00:28.000 It was a real thing. 1.00

03:00:29.000 Those motherfuckers. 1.00

03:00:30.000 Well, that's okay. 1.00

03:00:32.000 You know, you just got to keep forging ahead and figuring out how to maintain your integrity and also what you've worked for.

03:00:41.000 I can't imagine how you guys do it.

03:00:43.000 We just didn't want to give it up.

03:00:44.000 We didn't want someone else to be like, yeah, we own this.

03:00:46.000 Well, I'm glad you didn't, but I can't imagine how you guys do it, because if that was me, I found out that my jokes, like a bit that I did that I worked really long and hard on, all of a sudden, if I wanted to put it on a special, someone else is going to own it without even paying me for it. 1.00

03:00:58.000 I'd be like, well, fuck you, man. 0.99

03:00:59.000 That's crazy. 1.00

03:01:00.000 This is why I'm making my own furniture for my apartment.

03:01:05.000 That's okay.

03:01:06.000 I'm happy.

03:01:07.000 I haven't downloaded it, but it's not on this phone or this computer.

03:01:09.000 It's on another computer.

03:01:10.000 Hold on, y'all.

03:01:12.000 What is it?

03:01:12.000 Is it on Spotify?

03:01:13.000 Is that what you guys said?

03:01:14.000 No.

03:01:16.000 Ben, I think I've got it in my iTunes.

03:01:18.000 Confusion.

03:01:19.000 Oh, here it is.

03:01:19.000 I've got it right here.

03:01:20.000 What can we do?

03:01:21.000 How do I send it to you?

03:01:23.000 You can plug it in there.

03:01:24.000 You got an aux? 1.00

03:01:25.000 No, it's one of those stupid ass fucked up god damn fucking iPhones. 1.00

03:01:32.000 Android phones have an aux. 1.00

03:01:34.000 Don't you have an iPhone, Joe?

03:01:35.000 Yep.

03:01:38.000 Okay.

03:01:39.000 Okay?

03:01:40.000 Okay?

03:01:40.000 But I've seriously considered going Android several times.

03:01:44.000 There's a new one, this new Google Pixel 2 is coming out, and then also the new Galaxy S8. It doesn't set on fire?

03:01:55.000 No, the Note 8 is the one.

03:01:58.000 The Note 7 was the one that went on fire.

03:02:00.000 The Galaxy 7 never went on fire.

03:02:02.000 It's funny, it's all over the airports, too.

03:02:03.000 It's like, oh, just so you know.

03:02:05.000 Yeah, so the Galaxy S8 is dope.

03:02:08.000 I've thought about that one.

03:02:09.000 And then the Galaxy Note 8, which is coming out soon, is pretty killer too.

03:02:14.000 They're just as good as iPhones now.

03:02:15.000 It's just getting off the Apple tit is the issue.

03:02:18.000 You know, the Apple tit that connects you to iPods.

03:02:22.000 It's difficult.

03:02:23.000 It all makes your life more convenient.

03:02:27.000 But I'm on the Google tit, too.

03:02:28.000 I love Google.

03:02:29.000 Google tit's good.

03:02:30.000 It's a big tit.

03:02:30.000 I use it all the time.

03:02:31.000 It's a big tit.

03:02:32.000 It's like at least a D cup.

03:02:33.000 There's so much information.

03:02:35.000 Yeah.

03:02:35.000 I mean, if I had to choose between a company that I rely on more, if I could just use a Google phone, but I could still use Google.

03:02:42.000 Right.

03:02:43.000 Well, you've got to go with Google.

03:02:44.000 Right?

03:02:45.000 That's giant.

03:02:46.000 I use that way more than I use anything.

03:02:48.000 It's like Googling things.

03:02:50.000 I mean, who doesn't? 1.00

03:02:51.000 You need to know shit. 1.00

03:02:52.000 I need to know shit, Suzanne. 1.00

03:02:54.000 Like, what is my shoe size and European size? 0.99

03:02:56.000 Very big.

03:02:57.000 That's a good one.

03:02:57.000 Is the answer.

03:02:58.000 Very big.

03:02:58.000 If you wanted to order some shoes from overseas.

03:03:00.000 Do you have pancakes' feet as well?

03:03:03.000 I do.

03:03:03.000 Yeah, I have Sasquatch feet.

03:03:05.000 Really? 0.99

03:03:06.000 Big ass wide feet. 1.00

03:03:07.000 Well, I'll fucking... 1.00

03:03:07.000 I could probably outfoot you, right? 1.00

03:03:09.000 Guys, my feet are slender. 1.00

03:03:10.000 Damn. 0.99

03:03:11.000 Yeah, I've been on this trail running kick, and I run with those feet shoes, those five-finger shoes. 0.99

03:03:18.000 Those are fun.

03:03:19.000 I've never seen a foot product generate so much hate.

03:03:23.000 Really?

03:03:23.000 You can't handle it.

03:03:24.000 People wear those Vibram five-finger shoes.

03:03:26.000 But why?

03:03:27.000 They don't like the way it looks.

03:03:28.000 How do you feel about it? 0.99

03:03:29.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

03:03:30.000 I wear a fanny pack. 1.00

03:03:33.000 So does Pauly Shore.

03:03:35.000 I saw Pauly Shore at the grocery store the other day.

03:03:37.000 Don't lock me in with him and make me get rid of my...

03:03:38.000 I'm just kidding.

03:03:39.000 He had a fanny pack.

03:03:40.000 Sorry.

03:03:40.000 A lot of people are wearing them now.

03:03:41.000 And he gave me the stink eye a little bit.

03:03:43.000 I'm sorry.

03:03:44.000 Because he knew you were the junior.

03:03:45.000 He didn't know that you knew.

03:03:48.000 How do I feel when I wear them?

03:03:49.000 Is that what you're saying?

03:03:49.000 They're great.

03:03:50.000 How's your body feel?

03:03:51.000 It's hard because I'm running Rocky Hills and I'm running a lot of miles.

03:03:56.000 So like three miles on these very steep...

03:03:58.000 Rocky Hills sounds like a great porn star name.

03:04:00.000 It does. 1.00

03:04:01.000 A girl with ridiculous tits. 1.00

03:04:03.000 Just, Jesus, what the fuck is going on there? 1.00

03:04:05.000 A little double penetration on Rocky Hills. 1.00

03:04:07.000 Giant hands broken out of a shirt. 0.80

03:04:10.000 Jesus! 0.99

03:04:11.000 Third nipple. 0.99

03:04:11.000 That's Rocky Hills. 0.99

03:04:13.000 But it's tricky.

03:04:15.000 Today I ran them in Under Armour trail shoes, which I gotta be honest, I kinda like better.

03:04:19.000 Do you love Under Armour?

03:04:20.000 Because you can just run full on.

03:04:22.000 I do. 1.00

03:04:22.000 They have a lot of great shit. 1.00

03:04:23.000 I'm wearing their sneakers. 1.00

03:04:24.000 They're one of the most eco-athletic lines.

03:04:28.000 Really?

03:04:29.000 Yeah.

03:04:30.000 Well, they're also one of the very few big companies that support hunting.

03:04:34.000 They have a whole hunting line.

03:04:35.000 That's a bold choice.

03:04:38.000 Under Armour, if you want to endorse Honey Honey, we are willing and ready.

03:04:41.000 Big fan.

03:04:42.000 Big fan.

03:04:43.000 Under Armour, the gauntlet's been thrown down.

03:04:45.000 Yeah, for rock and roll, are you ready to expand? 0.99

03:04:47.000 Stage wear, holy shit. 0.99

03:04:49.000 Stage wear! 0.99

03:04:50.000 I've always wanted to have track suits for the whole band, like when we're loading in, because we have to do a lot of work.

03:04:54.000 But let me be honest, if you get a track suit, don't you have to get Adidas?

03:04:58.000 You mean like Royal Tenenbaums sign?

03:05:01.000 That's fine!

03:05:01.000 Yeah, you definitely have to be going a little hip-hop with it.

03:05:03.000 A little bit.

03:05:04.000 I'm slurring my words.

03:05:05.000 Some velour.

03:05:06.000 I can't even speak properly.

03:05:07.000 You're fine.

03:05:08.000 I bet you play pool real good right now though, right? 0.99

03:05:10.000 Let's fucking do this. 0.96

03:05:12.000 COVID's better than before. 1.00

03:05:12.000 Let's throw down. 1.00

03:05:13.000 We played pool earlier and I did not play my best.

03:05:16.000 But you know what was bizarre?

03:05:18.000 It's because I want to beat Joe so badly.

03:05:19.000 Maybe you weren't giving us the full juice.

03:05:22.000 We came down to it two games.

03:05:23.000 Yeah, we were right down ball to ball.

03:05:26.000 But you played so much better than us.

03:05:29.000 Oh, here we go.

03:05:29.000 That's because he wears a glove.

03:05:32.000 Oh my god, this is Punk Kid.

03:05:35.000 Goodnight, ladies and gentlemen.

03:05:36.000 Honey Honey, Suzanne Santo.

03:05:38.000 New album, August 11. This sounds like shit. 1.00

03:05:59.000 What's that? 1.00

03:06:01.000 Hold on, kill it. 1.00

03:06:03.000 That's okay. 1.00

03:06:04.000 The audio quality is terrible.

03:06:05.000 It got compressed when I texted it to myself. 1.00

03:06:08.000 Oh, yeah, that sounded like that shit was coming out of a toilet bowl. 0.99

03:06:11.000 Well, just so you know, it could sound better than that. 1.00

03:06:13.000 It sounds way better than that.

03:06:16.000 I had to stop it.

03:06:17.000 I was like, there's no way I could have that represent that song.

03:06:20.000 There's no way to get it through a computer?

03:06:21.000 You have to text it to yourself?

03:06:23.000 I'm trying to get it, and my phone's not connecting to the computer right now.

03:06:26.000 I don't know why.

03:06:28.000 He texted it to me.

03:06:29.000 It's got to be complicated if Jamie can't get it.

03:06:32.000 This is impressive.

03:06:33.000 Impressively complicated to get.

03:06:35.000 That was a nice fade out too though.

03:06:37.000 I was trying to email it to myself.

03:06:38.000 The song wasn't attaching in the email.

03:06:41.000 So there's no other way to get it?

03:06:44.000 Don't you guys have a way that you can tell people that they can get it?

03:06:47.000 If someone says, Hey Ben, I heard your punk kid song is really awesome.

03:06:51.000 Where can I go about hearing that?

03:06:53.000 I'll let him know.

03:06:54.000 Yeah, Ben, where is it?

03:06:56.000 Where is it, Ben?

03:06:58.000 We can put it on SoundCloud.

03:06:59.000 We can do that right now.

03:07:00.000 You know what we didn't do before we got on the podcast was like organize our social media because our Honey Honey website looks like our record's just coming out and it came out three years ago.

03:07:09.000 But we're working on that.

03:07:11.000 This is part of the DIY conundrum.

03:07:14.000 Well, it's also part of the promoting artist conundrum. 0.99

03:07:17.000 Because the thing that makes you a really good artist also makes you shit at promoting. 0.98

03:07:20.000 It's hard. 0.98

03:07:22.000 It's a lot.

03:07:23.000 But different things.

03:07:24.000 That's what's cool about getting teams around you.

03:07:27.000 Right, but then they get obsessed with you and they get weird.

03:07:29.000 No, good PR. It's fucking great. 0.99

03:07:32.000 No, honestly, it's you having us on your thing, dude. 0.97

03:07:35.000 Thank you so much.

03:07:36.000 My pleasure.

03:07:37.000 I get this.

03:07:38.000 Game change it. 1.00

03:07:39.000 If only you guys could figure out how to get one of your favorite fucking songs online so I could play it, that'd be a shit. 1.00

03:07:45.000 Damn it. 1.00

03:07:46.000 I feel like it's time to go barbecue now. 0.99

03:07:49.000 We're definitely going to go barbecue.

03:07:50.000 We're just going to play the song and then we're going to barbecue.

03:07:52.000 Oh, hell yeah.

03:07:53.000 What else to say?

03:07:55.000 Vegas this weekend, Friday night.

03:07:56.000 I'll be at the Ka Theater at the MGM with Tony Hinchcliffe.

03:08:00.000 It's where they do the Cirque du Soleil.

03:08:02.000 How fun!

03:08:03.000 Are you going to get up in there with your leotard on?

03:08:05.000 They put me in a diaper and they connect wires to the diaper and they fly me through the sky.

03:08:09.000 I feel like people would pay a lot of money to see that.

03:08:12.000 No, they have this crazy setup back there.

03:08:14.000 We don't use it.

03:08:14.000 We just use the flat stage, but the setup's insane.

03:08:17.000 I want to go.

03:08:17.000 Can I go?

03:08:17.000 Fuck yeah.

03:08:18.000 Ben, you want to go to Vegas? 1.00

03:08:20.000 Oh, it's your birthday weekend.

03:08:21.000 How dare you? 1.00

03:08:22.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

03:08:22.000 Is it your birthday weekend? 1.00

03:08:23.000 Oh, looks like someone's going to Vegas.

03:08:26.000 Someone needs to go to the UFC. What are we doing for the birthday?

03:08:30.000 UFC, Saturday night.

03:08:31.000 We're going to get in trouble.

03:08:32.000 In Vegas.

03:08:33.000 If you and I go to Vegas, it's going to be trouble.

03:08:34.000 Good fight.

03:08:34.000 What do you mean?

03:08:35.000 We're going to make lots of money?

03:08:36.000 Oh, you guys gamble?

03:08:38.000 Of course.

03:08:39.000 So we have no solution so far.

03:08:41.000 This is insane.

03:08:42.000 That's okay.

03:08:43.000 I've never heard of such a thing.

03:08:44.000 We were talking about Mystique earlier.

03:08:47.000 No, it gets compressed.

03:08:49.000 It shouldn't, though.

03:08:50.000 Yeah, the texting did it.

03:08:51.000 It wasn't attached in the email when I tried to put my email in there, so I bailed and went a different route.

03:08:57.000 Uh, this is not gonna work.

03:08:59.000 People are gonna find it, those hackers. 0.98

03:09:00.000 They're gonna send Jamie dick pics all day. 0.97

03:09:02.000 Don't do it to them. 0.99

03:09:03.000 Come on, you wanna see it?

03:09:04.000 You could just forward them to me.

03:09:06.000 That's fine. 1.00

03:09:07.000 Have you gotten dick pics before? 1.00

03:09:09.000 Yeah, definitely. 0.99

03:09:10.000 Now when you get them, you're like, really?

03:09:12.000 Well, it depends on if I'm into it or not. 0.98

03:09:15.000 But there's a great dick pic, which is the actual... 0.98

03:09:19.000 It's... 0.99

03:09:20.000 You gotta dress them up. 0.99

03:09:22.000 Dress up the dicks. 0.99

03:09:23.000 I'm gonna send this to Joe. 0.99

03:09:24.000 Hats. 0.99

03:09:25.000 You ever see that one, that dude that turned his dick into a dragon? 1.00

03:09:28.000 And he put, like, tattoos all over his dick and bolts in it and shit. 1.00

03:09:31.000 That sounds awful. 1.00

03:09:33.000 Unless you're into dragon dicks. 0.99

03:09:35.000 I'm gonna just, Joe... 0.97

03:09:37.000 Got a dragon on my back!

03:09:40.000 Joe, do you have your phone on you?

03:09:42.000 Yes, I do. 1.00

03:09:43.000 Okay, I'm gonna send you a dick pic. 1.00

03:09:44.000 Nice. 1.00

03:09:48.000 Finally!

03:09:48.000 We've been friends a long time, but I feel like...

03:09:51.000 It's about time.

03:09:52.000 It's about time we crossed this threshold.

03:09:57.000 Oh, solid.

03:10:01.000 Solid.

03:10:02.000 Here it is.

03:10:03.000 Okay.

03:10:04.000 That's about in line with the other jokes you've been throwing down.

03:10:08.000 Oh, interesting.

03:10:09.000 I get it. 0.99

03:10:13.000 It's a dick on a pick, folks. 0.99

03:10:16.000 A guitar pick. 0.99

03:10:17.000 Joe, just to make you feel better, I'm going to send you a dick pick. 0.96

03:10:20.000 No, you don't have to. 0.98

03:10:21.000 I've seen them.

03:10:23.000 It's fine.

03:10:23.000 He's seen them all.

03:10:24.000 He's seen the one with the guy who's a football player and he could fit into the shoe.

03:10:29.000 Do we got anything going on, Jamie?

03:10:30.000 No?

03:10:31.000 Should we end this?

03:10:31.000 I feel like we should just...

03:10:32.000 Oh, it didn't...

03:10:34.000 Oh, sorry, guys.

03:10:35.000 Did it go through?

03:10:36.000 I could play the one where they were on here on the podcast.

03:10:41.000 We could do that.

03:10:43.000 Jamie really wants to play that one, I feel like.

03:10:45.000 Well, he knows it's a good audio quality.

03:10:47.000 Okay, let's do that one.

03:10:50.000 Is it still daylight outside?

03:10:51.000 Yes.

03:10:52.000 It's daylight until 8 p.m.

03:10:53.000 now.

03:10:54.000 Oh my god.

03:10:55.000 I was shooting bows and arrows at 7.45 the other day.

03:10:58.000 You were?

03:10:59.000 Yeah, it was clear enough. 0.99

03:11:00.000 Where do you shoot them? 0.98

03:11:01.000 Into the abyss? 1.00

03:11:02.000 I'll show you.

03:11:05.000 Joe, where do you shoot your arrows?

03:11:07.000 Hold on.

03:11:08.000 Unfortunate spots.

03:11:09.000 Joe, I just sent it to you.

03:11:10.000 Okay.

03:11:11.000 How's that going to work?

03:11:11.000 It says sent.

03:11:13.000 Okay.

03:11:13.000 And you sent it to Jamie and it didn't work?

03:11:15.000 Is that what happened?

03:11:16.000 I mean, that's what it's feeling like.

03:11:19.000 Hey, tip of the hat to your lava lamps.

03:11:22.000 I'm just going to say that right now.

03:11:23.000 Old school.

03:11:23.000 I like them a lot.

03:11:25.000 I feel entranced by them.

03:11:27.000 I'm trying to go as hippie as I can without being a hippie.

03:11:31.000 No, that's totally cool.

03:11:32.000 You've got a salt rock lamp.

03:11:34.000 I'm just going to say that that's great.

03:11:36.000 I've got a couple of those.

03:11:37.000 One of them died on us.

03:11:38.000 What?

03:11:39.000 Yeah, very sad.

03:11:40.000 Did it lose its positive ions?

03:11:43.000 That's a good question.

03:11:45.000 I think it's just the power cable crapped out.

03:11:48.000 That one's dead, right?

03:11:49.000 Does that one not work anymore?

03:11:50.000 Yeah.

03:11:50.000 Yeah, that one doesn't work, but that one works.

03:11:52.000 See, that one is lit up.

03:11:53.000 I love it.

03:11:54.000 It's a good size.

03:11:55.000 It's next to your Marshall amp.

03:11:56.000 Is that Marshall amp also like a...

03:12:00.000 Radio?

03:12:00.000 It's a Bluetooth speaker.

03:12:02.000 Yeah, I want one of those really badly.

03:12:04.000 Yeah, we can have that one.

03:12:04.000 They sound great.

03:12:05.000 You want it?

03:12:05.000 No, it's yours.

03:12:06.000 Nope, you can have it.

03:12:07.000 Gotta clear this place out anywhere.

03:12:09.000 What?

03:12:10.000 Got a new studio.

03:12:11.000 Okay, I'll take it.

03:12:11.000 Did that go through?

03:12:12.000 Yes, and I sent it to Jamie.

03:12:14.000 Oh, here we go.

03:12:14.000 Here we go.

03:12:15.000 We got this.

03:12:16.000 This sounds better.

03:12:17.000 August 11th.

03:12:19.000 Suzanne Santos' new album.

03:12:21.000 I bet you were a punk kid when you were young.

03:12:24.000 I bet you were a punk kid when you were young. 1.00

03:12:27.000 Flashing your cut, tearing shit up. 0.99

03:12:30.000 I bet you were a punk. 1.00

03:12:32.000 Cause it takes one to know I'm prodigal son.

03:12:38.000 Yeah, I bet you were a punk.

03:12:47.000 Who's coming around for you?

03:12:48.000 Who's coming around for you?

03:13:13.000 We're good to go.

03:13:50.000 What?

03:14:32.000 How you do, yeah, I'm feeling bad for how you do.

03:14:36.000 Somewhere along the line somebody gave it to you.

03:14:41.000 On the right side, on the wrong side, no matter how you do.

03:15:26.000 We did it, folks. 1.00

03:15:27.000 Damn. 1.00

03:15:28.000 Goodnight. 1.00

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 03, 2017

Joe Rogan Experience #982 - Honey Honey

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