The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #983 - Natasha Leggero & Moshe Kasher

00:00:04.000 Yes!

00:00:05.000 Yeah!

00:00:07.000 Natasha, put your phone away.

00:00:09.000 I'm trying to retweet it!

00:00:11.000 You're trying?

00:00:12.000 But the story was real.

00:00:14.000 I don't know.

00:00:14.000 It's hard.

00:00:15.000 This shit's not coming up. 1.00

00:00:16.000 There it goes. 0.99

00:00:16.000 This interface. 0.99

00:00:17.000 It's very hard.

00:00:19.000 It's very hard.

00:00:20.000 Are you guys worried that by calling your tour Endless Honeymoon, you might put the jinx on it?

00:00:26.000 Sort of like how Rob and Blac Chyna in doing a reality show...

00:00:31.000 A jinx on what, our marriage or the tour?

00:00:34.000 No, man.

00:00:34.000 We can pivot into the endless divorce tour very quickly.

00:00:38.000 Ah, right, because you guys will be friends, even if you hit the rocks.

00:00:41.000 Strictly homies tour. 0.51

00:00:43.000 Well, the way we thought of it is when we were in Newport, Rhode Island, we learned about this rich couple who went on a 10-year honeymoon.

00:00:49.000 And then they came back with four kids.

00:00:51.000 And I just thought that sounded so romantic, to be so rich that you just went away for a decade.

00:00:56.000 Yeah, you have kids on the fly.

00:00:58.000 You go away newlyweds, you come back grandparents.

00:01:02.000 That's super bold, too.

00:01:03.000 Like, they don't even know their doctor. 1.00

00:01:04.000 They're in fucking Sweden and shit. 1.00

00:01:06.000 I mean, they're rich people. 1.00

00:01:08.000 Those people were so rich, man.

00:01:09.000 Do you know about the Newport, the seat of wealth that was Newport, Rhode Island?

00:01:13.000 Oh, yeah.

00:01:13.000 I used to do a lot of gigs in Rhode Island.

00:01:15.000 There's these insane mansions there. 0.93

00:01:17.000 Yeah.

00:01:18.000 This is the backdrop of the show.

00:01:20.000 Well, in the Gilded Age in, like, 1900, basically 90% of the wealth in America was in Rhode Island.

00:01:25.000 And then everyone else was living, like...

00:01:26.000 You know, in squalor.

00:01:28.000 Because they hadn't established personal income tax yet.

00:01:32.000 It was like the years right before personal income tax had been established in this country.

00:01:37.000 So people had like 35 indoor servants, 55 outdoor servants.

00:01:42.000 People would come from Australia in boats and you would just make them your... 1.00

00:01:46.000 It was like slavery, but...

00:01:48.000 This is the show at the Endless Honey Mature.

00:01:50.000 We do an extended lecture on personal income tax and the history.

00:01:54.000 And slavery. 0.91

00:01:54.000 Yeah, it's really fun. 0.91

00:01:55.000 No, my show, Another Period, is based on that.

00:01:57.000 That's how we know about it.

00:01:58.000 But yeah, they were like, these people, it was the Carnegies and the Rockefellers and these like seed of power, like Illuminati old, you know. 0.83

00:02:05.000 Like Carnegie had a billion dollars a hundred years ago.

00:02:08.000 Like these people were, they were just, but now we've come full circle and people have figured out how to legally steal money and not pay income.

00:02:14.000 But not that many.

00:02:16.000 I mean, the difference is pretty shocking.

00:02:19.000 But don't, like, the Romneys of the world, don't they know how to not pay? 0.93

00:02:22.000 Mitt Romneys, are you talking about? 0.90

00:02:23.000 Well, like, the politicians.

00:02:25.000 Don't they kind of know how to...

00:02:27.000 You're talking about...

00:02:28.000 She's talking about big old corporate oligarchy billionaire people that have figured out...

00:02:32.000 Any super rich people are going to try really hard to hold on to their money and pay as little taxes as possible and form LLCs and corporations and all kinds of jazz, but...

00:02:40.000 It is funny that comedians are mostly super liberal, and they're all like, man, we got Bernie, and we gotta pay these high tax rates, and anyway, I'm incorporated, and my LLC's name is, it's just like, you're doing a corporate fiction, too.

00:02:54.000 It's a tax shelter for entertainers.

00:02:57.000 But here's the problem.

00:02:58.000 Where's the money going?

00:02:59.000 Like, I'd be willing to give away more money in tax dollars if I knew that it was a rock-solid establishment, they really knew what to do.

00:03:06.000 If you could fill little bubbles, like, oh, I'd like most of my money to go to education, nothing to this, nothing to that.

00:03:14.000 Oh, that'd be amazing. 0.99

00:03:15.000 It would be, but the country would be fucked. 0.99

00:03:17.000 The roads would fall apart quickly. 0.99

00:03:19.000 Oh, everything would fall apart, you know?

00:03:21.000 Cops would be out of business.

00:03:22.000 Well, no, because half of the country, at least, would be like, all my money to the cops, all my money to the defense.

00:03:28.000 I would love to see.

00:03:30.000 I wouldn't love to do it because I just don't think that that amount of power should be in people's hands without a lot of research first.

00:03:36.000 You know, I think that's a big part of the problem even running for president and voting for president.

00:03:42.000 You don't have to have any research done before you choose a candidate.

00:03:46.000 You just like them.

00:03:47.000 And also you don't have to have done any research to be the president.

00:03:50.000 Also there's like no choice.

00:03:52.000 You're like, okay, I guess I'm a Hillary person.

00:03:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:03:56.000 Yeah, you could become a Hillary person just because you didn't want a reality show contestant or whatever the fuck he was. 0.99

00:04:01.000 But that's the crazy thing about, and I do think, I think we were talking about this last time, I do think Trump, if he's doing anything good for American society, he's pointing out how ridiculous and arbitrary the worship of the American president is. 0.99

00:04:14.000 Oh, yeah.

00:04:15.000 If people are going, that's not presidential.

00:04:17.000 Well, presidential means that you look dignified while you bomb a village in Yemen. 0.83

00:04:22.000 So we should just destroy presidential as an idea.

00:04:25.000 Gore Vidal said that he called it the uniquely American religion of president worship.

00:04:31.000 President worship.

00:04:32.000 Yeah, that is really...

00:04:33.000 I mean, it's really just a new version of kings.

00:04:37.000 That's so funny that our whole foundation mythology is based on the rejection of the king, and we immediately established kingship, which is what they did in Christianity.

00:04:46.000 I think of Christianity this way.

00:04:48.000 It's based in this Judaic religion that says...

00:04:52.000 Let's get rid of the idea of a man that you worship or a figure or a god that you bow in front of.

00:04:57.000 There's one right in front of us, right?

00:04:58.000 Let's get rid of a statue that you bow down in front of.

00:05:01.000 And the next religion was like, let's worship a human being.

00:05:05.000 That is so in us.

00:05:07.000 Well, it's alpha male chimpanzee stuff.

00:05:09.000 We always try to look to the number one, the one that knows the most, the oldest with the most scars.

00:05:15.000 Gone through the most battle.

00:05:17.000 Has the most wisdom.

00:05:17.000 Lead us.

00:05:18.000 Because you want to know which snakes are poisonous and what plants you can eat and what's going to kill you.

00:05:23.000 Right.

00:05:23.000 And everybody worships the past.

00:05:25.000 That's what's so funny to me about American... 0.95

00:05:28.000 It's the day after July 4th and everybody talks about the Founding Fathers.

00:05:31.000 It's like, those were dudes who had the education of the...

00:05:34.000 They were brilliant people in the 1800s and 1700s.

00:05:37.000 But I'm not like trying to...

00:05:39.000 I'm not trying to go to a doctor from the Founding Fathers days.

00:05:42.000 I mean...

00:05:45.000 Or like, yeah, people probably stunk. 0.73

00:05:47.000 People probably did stink. 0.99

00:05:48.000 Thomas Jefferson probably stank.

00:05:50.000 Probably just what people smelled like back then. 0.66

00:05:52.000 Like, if you caught a gal after a bath, you were psyched. 1.00

00:05:56.000 But even a bath! 1.00

00:05:58.000 A bath is, let's be honest about what a bath is, it's asshole and vagina soup. 1.00

00:06:03.000 I mean, you're sitting in a big teapot of asshole. 1.00

00:06:07.000 But you don't put your dick or balls in there. 1.00

00:06:08.000 The men put their assholes in, women put their vaginas in, but men, they hold up their assholes, their dicks and balls, so they don't forget. 1.00

00:06:16.000 Well, it doesn't concern me what a guy smells like, but what a girl smells like concerns me. 1.00

00:06:21.000 But maybe it wouldn't have back then.

00:06:23.000 Maybe it wouldn't have.

00:06:24.000 Maybe just your standards change.

00:06:26.000 If you're horny enough, you don't care.

00:06:27.000 That is true.

00:06:27.000 I'll never forget this passage.

00:06:28.000 I do.

00:06:30.000 Always. 0.86

00:06:31.000 But you're an incredibly horny person, Natasha. 0.97

00:06:35.000 Classically horny. 0.99

00:06:35.000 Let me just say, guys, my wife is so horny. 0.99

00:06:40.000 I love that word, too. 0.99

00:06:41.000 I like how you did it in a sort of a gay, floppy way. 0.93

00:06:45.000 Isn't it funny that being mobile is gay? 1.00

00:06:48.000 Is gay, yeah. 1.00

00:06:49.000 If you just start going like this, people go, oh, that's gay as fuck. 1.00

00:06:53.000 There's a story about Tom Cruise. 1.00

00:06:55.000 Have you heard this?

00:06:56.000 That he came to, I can't remember who, some comedy person who's like a normal human being, right?

00:07:02.000 Like, but famous, but not like Tom Cruise famous.

00:07:05.000 So Tom Cruise like connected with that person.

00:07:08.000 I can't, it would make it a better story if I remember who it was.

00:07:10.000 But it was somebody like, at like your level, or like a Mark Duplass, or you know what I'm saying?

00:07:16.000 I don't know who Mark Duplass is.

00:07:17.000 Well, he's a guy at your level.

00:07:20.000 Do you know who he is?

00:07:22.000 The Duplass Brothers.

00:07:22.000 Jamie knows who everybody is.

00:07:23.000 I don't know who the Duplass Brothers is.

00:07:25.000 They made the show Togetherness on HBO. My point isn't about the Duplass Brothers.

00:07:30.000 They were just semi-famous, not inhuman.

00:07:33.000 Okay, what did Tom Cruise say?

00:07:35.000 Tom Cruise got himself. 1.00

00:07:36.000 She's so horny she wants to get to the fucking... 1.00

00:07:39.000 I get it. 1.00

00:07:40.000 So, see, he got invited to a Super Bowl party at this person's house, right?

00:07:44.000 Like, imagine if Tom Cruise was coming to your house for the Super Bowl party.

00:07:46.000 For a Super Bowl party?

00:07:47.000 He was like, oh.

00:07:48.000 Imagine asking Tom Cruise and he says, yes?

00:07:51.000 Like, honey, he said yes.

00:07:52.000 What do we do?

00:07:53.000 Right, and imagine being Tom Cruise and be like, I think I will be among the humans today.

00:07:58.000 So Tom Cruise apparently shows up with a brand new, like, clearly fresh football that his assistant, like, you know, he's, like, tossing, like, a literal brand new football in the air.

00:08:08.000 Right.

00:08:08.000 And they're all talking about marriage at some point in the day.

00:08:11.000 And he goes, you know what the best part of being married is, though, right? 1.00

00:08:14.000 Fucking your wife! 1.00

00:08:15.000 Am I right? 1.00

00:08:16.000 You just fuck your wife. 1.00

00:08:17.000 And everybody's like, felt like tumbleweeds roll through the park. 1.00

00:08:22.000 He's sort of like a robot, huh?

00:08:23.000 Like an alien visiting us.

00:08:24.000 He must be amazing to hang out with.

00:08:26.000 I would love to hang out with him. 1.00

00:08:28.000 Fucking your wife, right? 1.00

00:08:31.000 I mean, when you're that famous, your work ethic, it's like you just devote everything to that, I think. 1.00

00:08:36.000 Because my agents were like, they know that the agents who are Tom Cruise's agents, they said, Tom Cruise always gets back within an hour when we send a script.

00:08:45.000 Because I'll keep a script for three weeks, and then by the time I read it, the part's been cast.

00:08:49.000 He reads it in an hour?

00:08:50.000 They said, Tom Cruise will read a script in an hour and get back to them and either like it or not like it.

00:08:55.000 He's just on the ball.

00:08:58.000 He's trying to win.

00:09:00.000 He's won.

00:09:01.000 And it's an inhuman instinct, because our human instinct is to just atrophy.

00:09:07.000 In a way.

00:09:08.000 I mean, you have to kind of fight it, but it's easy to be lazy and to procrastinate.

00:09:12.000 It's definitely easy to be lazy, but if you're going to be Tom Cruise, you really have to be on the ball.

00:09:16.000 There's no other way.

00:09:17.000 It's a full-time job.

00:09:19.000 But that's not just what's going on.

00:09:21.000 There's this weird alien sort of behavior patterns that we don't recognize as being normal.

00:09:26.000 Like when he jumped up on Oprah's couch, he's like, I'm in love, I'm in love, I'm in love. 0.98

00:09:30.000 And everybody's like, what the fuck is going on here? 0.95

00:09:33.000 No, it's like a person who doesn't understand French, but you're speaking French to a French person. 0.99

00:09:38.000 You're saying all the right words. 0.99

00:09:40.000 What the fuck is wrong with this guy? 0.99

00:09:42.000 It seems like every choice he makes outside of acting is based on what he's assuming normal human beings think is the normal behavior. 1.00

00:09:49.000 So he goes, ooh, love is when you jump on a couch and go, I love her!

00:09:52.000 Which is informed by movies, really, right?

00:09:55.000 Like, that's more movie-like, right?

00:09:57.000 That's like John Cusack in Say Anything.

00:09:59.000 Like, oh, that's what love looks like.

00:10:00.000 It's not... 0.89

00:10:01.000 You know, or telling a bunch of the fellas, you know, oh, we're going to have sex talk with the fellas. 1.00

00:10:06.000 Oh, I like to fuck my wife, huh? 1.00

00:10:08.000 The friction of her vagina makes me just splooch, huh? 1.00

00:10:11.000 Right, guys? 1.00

00:10:11.000 And everybody's like... 1.00

00:10:12.000 Everyone's like, oh, we're sick of fucking our wives. 1.00

00:10:15.000 Never. 1.00

00:10:16.000 I just don't relate to that joke that you made.

00:10:19.000 That's sweet.

00:10:20.000 That's so sweet. 1.00

00:10:21.000 Yeah, what a fucking strange guy. 0.99

00:10:24.000 He might be one of the strangest guys of all time. 0.99

00:10:26.000 I wish he would just, like, come clean.

00:10:28.000 Like, one day, just sit down and just be, like, give him some ecstasy.

00:10:33.000 And have him just talk about who he is. 0.99

00:10:35.000 Like, I don't even know who the fuck I am. 0.98

00:10:37.000 I mean, I've been in Scientology for so long. 0.99

00:10:40.000 I fucked, like, 13 guys last year. 0.99

00:10:43.000 13. I'm always worried they're gonna tell. 0.99

00:10:46.000 I'm always worried they're gonna tell.

00:10:48.000 Well, he did Chris Hardwick's podcast, right?

00:10:51.000 He did?

00:10:51.000 He did a one-on-one interview.

00:10:52.000 He did?

00:10:53.000 I haven't listened to that.

00:10:54.000 Yeah.

00:10:55.000 Recently?

00:10:55.000 I wish you could get him on here, because you get in, but I don't think you could pierce that impenetrable layer.

00:11:01.000 I think he would be fake with you, too.

00:11:03.000 But even if he's fake, you find out if he's fake.

00:11:05.000 You find some stuff.

00:11:06.000 You still pierce.

00:11:07.000 He was telling Chris, like, I love movies.

00:11:09.000 You know, I'm passionate about movies.

00:11:10.000 And Chris goes, oh, yeah?

00:11:12.000 Like, what are some of your favorite movies?

00:11:13.000 This is how politically, like, constructed he is.

00:11:16.000 He goes, yeah, just movies.

00:11:19.000 All movies.

00:11:20.000 All movies.

00:11:20.000 Like, he was such a political being.

00:11:22.000 They're all the same.

00:11:23.000 But they're all the same.

00:11:27.000 There's no difference.

00:11:28.000 The biggest movie star couldn't pick three movies that have inspired him.

00:11:31.000 Because he didn't want to pick a Spielberg, a Bruckheimer, and a blah blah blah because then he'd piss off Coppola and Scorsese.

00:11:38.000 It's all a construct.

00:11:40.000 God, I want to meet him.

00:11:42.000 I can't believe he did Chris's.

00:11:44.000 That's so cool.

00:11:44.000 You should have him on the show.

00:11:45.000 You could get him.

00:11:46.000 I got faith you could get him.

00:11:48.000 I've had this guy on, Ron Miskovich, who's David Miskovich's dad.

00:11:52.000 Oh, wow.

00:11:53.000 Oh, so you can't have him on.

00:11:54.000 Who's the head of Scientology.

00:11:55.000 And I had Leah Remini on.

00:11:56.000 You had Leah Remini on? 0.55

00:11:57.000 Yeah, and we talked for three hours about how crazy her life in Scientology was.

00:12:02.000 You're a classic SP. There's no way you're getting, Tom.

00:12:04.000 I'm a suppressive person.

00:12:05.000 Although I'm not.

00:12:07.000 I'm just misunderstood.

00:12:08.000 I gotta say, though, the more I learn about the Catholic faith and all these, like... 1.00

00:12:13.000 Kid fuckers keep coming out, the more I'm like, that's the worst one. 1.00

00:12:16.000 Did you see the new one? 1.00

00:12:17.000 Keepers?

00:12:18.000 No, the new...

00:12:19.000 Oh, that Australian guy? 1.00

00:12:21.000 There's 8,000 cases of child molesting that they just uncovered.

00:12:26.000 I mean, let's just shut down that religion.

00:12:28.000 Was it Catholic child molestation? 0.99

00:12:30.000 Well, priests are Catholics. 0.98

00:12:31.000 No, no, I'm not doing a bit.

00:12:32.000 But all 8,000 of it was connected to the church?

00:12:35.000 Jamie will find it.

00:12:36.000 I mean, I didn't even read it because I looked at the headline and I first thought it was, duh...

00:12:40.000 And second thought was, ugh, I just can't.

00:12:43.000 I mean, it's so much worse than making someone believe they can get acting work, like whatever Scientology does. 0.98

00:12:50.000 The Catholic religion is like, they're fucking little girls and boys and It's permanently ruining their lives, making them have terrible flashbacks, making them have wide chunks of memory that they just don't remember, and they do remember, and it's just the worst thing you can do. 1.00

00:13:06.000 And having sexual problems, I'm not Catholic, I'm Jewish now. 1.00

00:13:10.000 Well, you know, the Pope, the last Pope, Ratzinger, that guy, one of the reasons why he had to step down was because they found out that he was one of the guys that used to move people around. 0.99

00:13:22.000 He was one of the guys, when someone would get caught molesting children, he would move them to a new precinct or whatever the fuck they would... 0.97

00:13:28.000 What do you call it? 0.99

00:13:29.000 That's what takes your breath away.

00:13:30.000 We live actually right next to a former rehabilitation center for wayward priests on our street in LA. And I was like, oh, I always thought, oh, wayward priests.

00:13:39.000 Like, I wonder what that means.

00:13:40.000 And then after we saw that movie Spotlight, we looked it up, and that's exactly where they were housing...

00:13:45.000 It was one of the places they were housing the molesters.

00:13:48.000 Right. 0.98

00:13:48.000 Spotlight makes this really interesting point about the church, which is that the commonly held sort of folk belief about the Catholic Church is that when you take away someone's ability to have sex, you will concentrate their sex drive and pervert it, and you'll become a child molester. 0.98

00:14:04.000 And with Spotlight, the movie sort of point that it makes is it's the other way around, is that basically when you're a child molester, you go to the church because you know they'll give you a haven.

00:14:14.000 See, I don't think that's true, though.

00:14:16.000 Like, it is hard to become a priest.

00:14:17.000 You have to, like, study scripture for...

00:14:20.000 I mean, how long is seminary school?

00:14:21.000 It's easy to molest a child.

00:14:22.000 You gotta groom them.

00:14:23.000 You gotta hang out.

00:14:24.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:25.000 I just don't know how true that is.

00:14:27.000 So Ratzinger moved a guy that went on to molest 100 deaf kids.

00:14:31.000 Yeah, I saw this documentary.

00:14:33.000 Wait, why deaf kids? 1.00

00:14:33.000 Because they couldn't talk about it. 1.00

00:14:35.000 They can sign!

00:14:37.000 Yeah, but no one's gonna listen to them.

00:14:38.000 It's not like they can just start talking.

00:14:41.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:42.000 I mean, he was working with deaf kids, like deaf orphans.

00:14:46.000 Well, it's not that nobody would listen to a deaf person.

00:14:49.000 This is how scams work, too.

00:14:51.000 But it's one step removed.

00:14:52.000 Exactly.

00:14:52.000 It's one more...

00:14:53.000 A little easier.

00:14:55.000 What you want as a predator is the most vulnerable person that you can be predatory towards.

00:15:00.000 Like in the documentary Keepers, it wasn't until this girl came to the priest and said, I actually have been molested.

00:15:06.000 He was like, oh, you have, have you?

00:15:09.000 And then he started molesting her.

00:15:11.000 But he waited for her to come in.

00:15:13.000 It was in confession.

00:15:14.000 He found that she was weak.

00:15:15.000 So she was weak, and then that's who he picked.

00:15:17.000 So it's like...

00:15:18.000 I remember these Nigerian... 0.99

00:15:19.000 That's psychotic. 0.99

00:15:21.000 It's insane, yeah.

00:15:22.000 But that's what they want.

00:15:23.000 The child molester loves the weak and vulnerable. 1.00

00:15:27.000 Because if they go to a strong, confident child who they know will just be like, if you touch me, I'll tell my fucking dad and he'll kill you. 1.00

00:15:34.000 That's why I wasn't molested. 1.00

00:15:35.000 They were like, that girl's got a big mouth. 1.00

00:15:39.000 Do not touch her.

00:15:40.000 Also, though, I've seen your baby pictures.

00:15:41.000 You weren't a hot kid.

00:15:42.000 I was!

00:15:42.000 It was!

00:15:43.000 And I was always trying to, yeah.

00:15:45.000 But it's very much always boys, right?

00:15:48.000 No, it's...

00:15:49.000 It's very rarely girls.

00:15:49.000 No, you gotta watch the keepers.

00:15:50.000 Oh, yeah?

00:15:51.000 Yeah.

00:15:51.000 It's girls and boys.

00:15:53.000 It's like who...

00:15:54.000 I've only seen documentaries on boys.

00:15:55.000 But the boys thing is weird, but I do believe there's a math to suppressing someone's sexuality, and then it's just going to come out in these other ways.

00:16:04.000 Well, I think that also, orientation is spread equally across monsters. 0.72

00:16:12.000 Sexual orientation, yeah.

00:16:12.000 Yeah, I think.

00:16:13.000 I don't even know. 0.99

00:16:15.000 Are you even gay if you're a child molester that likes little boys? 0.99

00:16:17.000 Is that even gay? 1.00

00:16:18.000 That seems like a third thing. 0.81

00:16:20.000 You're not even in a sexual zone anymore.

00:16:22.000 Now you're in a pathology zone.

00:16:24.000 But since the cases are so, there's just so many cases, like maybe we should just let priests get married.

00:16:30.000 A hundred percent.

00:16:30.000 Something needs to change.

00:16:31.000 Well, they used to be able to, but they were rock stars.

00:16:34.000 The problem was back in the days, like during the Lutheran days, when Martin Luther was around, priests controlled everything. 0.99

00:16:41.000 I mean, they fucked everybody's wives. 1.00

00:16:43.000 Really? 1.00

00:16:44.000 The Pope had wives and children.

00:16:47.000 Popes had wives.

00:16:48.000 They had children.

00:16:49.000 They had money.

00:16:49.000 They had armies.

00:16:50.000 The Roman Catholic Pope controlled armies.

00:16:54.000 You know, like, they controlled troops.

00:16:56.000 Like, it was a totally different scene. 1.00

00:16:57.000 And then somewhere along the line, there were fucking so many women. 1.00

00:17:00.000 They were like, hey, here's a new rule. 1.00

00:17:03.000 If you're going to be a priest, you can't fuck any chicks. 1.00

00:17:05.000 And then just the whole thing went haywire. 0.99

00:17:06.000 Does anybody know why that happened?

00:17:08.000 Why the changeover happened?

00:17:09.000 Because they were rock stars.

00:17:10.000 Because they were banging everybody. 0.88

00:17:11.000 No, I'm sorry.

00:17:12.000 Why they made them not rock stars.

00:17:13.000 Okay, because they were too irresponsible.

00:17:15.000 This is what I've read.

00:17:16.000 What I've read is that there was a real concern amongst people that were under the tutelage of these priests that these guys were out of control.

00:17:25.000 They were just banging everybody. 0.94

00:17:26.000 Find out what was the reason.

00:17:28.000 And that's why they made them not able to...

00:17:30.000 That's so interesting.

00:17:32.000 I wonder what year do you think that is?

00:17:33.000 It wasn't that long ago.

00:17:35.000 I think it was like a thousand years ago.

00:17:36.000 It might have been less.

00:17:37.000 That's so interesting.

00:17:38.000 I think it was less than a thousand years ago because I know that during the Genghis Khan era, the Pope still had armies.

00:17:45.000 And I think they were still allowed to be married and have children.

00:17:49.000 Oh, and I bet they were using their religious status to abuse their power. 0.97

00:17:56.000 Probably.

00:17:57.000 Probably women would fall for them, too. 0.95

00:18:00.000 Think about it.

00:18:01.000 If there's no musicians, there's no comedians, there's no actors, who are the hoes going to go The hoes are going to go straight to the priests. 1.00

00:18:08.000 They go to the jesters though.

00:18:09.000 They had comics back then.

00:18:10.000 But it was to do with like a floppy hat.

00:18:11.000 Yeah, but they were like cruise ship comics.

00:18:13.000 They couldn't get out of line at all.

00:18:15.000 They got killed.

00:18:16.000 They were still rock stars.

00:18:17.000 They were just like had white hair and played the piano. 0.99

00:18:19.000 What's the deal with the latrine that you have to shit in? 0.99

00:18:21.000 What is the deal with Cornish game hen? 0.99

00:18:23.000 The white hair played the piano that was later.

00:18:26.000 That was like the renaissance.

00:18:28.000 This is like a dude plucking a lute.

00:18:30.000 I'd like to find out.

00:18:31.000 Yeah, probably.

00:18:32.000 A harp.

00:18:33.000 I want to have a timeline of what was the year. 0.96

00:18:35.000 There is this idea that the guy, the itinerant singer that would come to town and pluck the lute and tell the tale was always fucking everybody everywhere he went through town. 0.93

00:18:44.000 That's got to be who we all came from. 0.97

00:18:46.000 It was like Robert Plant.

00:18:47.000 We came from the Jesters.

00:18:49.000 That's rock star versus comedian.

00:18:51.000 Right.

00:18:52.000 We were the people who would come in on a wagon.

00:18:54.000 Yeah, like juggling balls of manure. 1.00

00:18:56.000 Like, the king has the ears of an ass. 1.00

00:18:58.000 I would hit you on the head with a baguette. 1.00

00:19:00.000 Comedians. 0.99

00:19:01.000 Do you think that you guys have genetic ancestry to former comedians?

00:19:05.000 I believe in that more than Moshe does.

00:19:08.000 Do you believe in it?

00:19:08.000 I just feel like I have a blood memory.

00:19:11.000 For example, I do think there are people in comedy who are doing it because that's where the energy is right now, and they're just trying to make money.

00:19:18.000 Right, actors.

00:19:19.000 Yeah, or whoever.

00:19:20.000 I think it's moved beyond that.

00:19:22.000 Now it's like everybody that would have been a DJ when I was like 17 is now a comedian.

00:19:27.000 Right, there is a lot of that.

00:19:28.000 It's cool.

00:19:29.000 Does it bother you guys?

00:19:31.000 I don't really care.

00:19:32.000 I mean, I think you just have to focus on yourself.

00:19:34.000 It doesn't bother me.

00:19:35.000 I think it's cool because when you go big, then the 10% of geniuses that wouldn't have started if it wasn't cool will start.

00:19:43.000 And then the 90% of people that were going to be garbage, they don't matter. 0.99

00:19:47.000 Damn, 90-10, huh? 0.99

00:19:49.000 Probably less. 0.99

00:19:50.000 Probably 99.1.

00:19:51.000 No, you think?

00:19:53.000 Of genius.

00:19:53.000 A person that starts comedy to becoming like a...

00:19:57.000 Forget genius.

00:19:58.000 A person that starts comedy, does a set at an open mic, to becomes one of the great comedians, even in the top 10% of comedians, that's got to be 1%.

00:20:09.000 I don't know if my math works.

00:20:10.000 But the problem with it is, like you say, once they start, because the 99.9% that start never even make it.

00:20:20.000 That's part of it.

00:20:21.000 Yeah, but it's like the 0.1% that actually become professional comedians.

00:20:26.000 How many people out of your group of open micers that you used to hang with?

00:20:30.000 How many are still doing stand-up?

00:20:32.000 This is a bad ratio because how many of them have a TV show?

00:20:34.000 All of them.

00:20:35.000 Things have changed.

00:20:37.000 Like, it's easier to be famous now, so your ratios are a little off.

00:20:41.000 With open mic nights?

00:20:42.000 From open micers?

00:20:43.000 Well, yeah, no.

00:20:44.000 The numbers are very... 0.99

00:20:46.000 I remember when I first started, like, I would have let a man fuck me 50 times to get, like, a Montreal spot. 0.94

00:20:55.000 And now it's like... 0.99

00:20:56.000 50?

00:20:56.000 Yeah, 50 times.

00:20:57.000 I've thought about it a lot, and they would rub my back very gently and smoothly.

00:21:01.000 What about a big man like Alonzo Bowden?

00:21:02.000 Okay, he could do 25 times. 0.99

00:21:05.000 Dude, I looked at Alonzo Bowden's fingers once, and I was like, there are men with dicks smaller than your finger. 0.99

00:21:10.000 Oh, for sure. 0.99

00:21:11.000 It's crazy.

00:21:11.000 I see him online.

00:21:13.000 There's men with dicks smaller than your finger. 1.00

00:21:15.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:21:15.000 Oh, well, that's rough, if that's true. 0.99

00:21:17.000 It's true. 1.00

00:21:18.000 Anyway, Alonzo, if you're listening, every time I look at your hands, all I think of is dicks. 1.00

00:21:21.000 Wow. 1.00

00:21:22.000 Small dicks. 0.99

00:21:23.000 Interesting. 0.98

00:21:23.000 No more. 0.98

00:21:24.000 But my point was, oh, is that I would have done anything for a Montreal spot or a spot on The Tonight Show.

00:21:32.000 And now there's young comics who are like, nah, I'm not really trying to be a second lead on a show right now.

00:21:38.000 I'm really waiting around for my vehicle.

00:21:40.000 Things have changed.

00:21:41.000 I dated a girl that was like that.

00:21:43.000 She was like, I don't want to do TV. I'm holding out for film.

00:21:45.000 Because I was on a television show at the time and she was saying that she didn't want to do TV. It's like it was beneath her.

00:21:52.000 Oh, and you're doing TV at the time.

00:21:53.000 Yeah.

00:21:53.000 Was that news radio?

00:21:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:56.000 I took an acting class with Paris Hilton and the teacher was like, who wants to do TV? And everyone raised their hand except her and he was like, who wants to do just movies?

00:22:07.000 And Paris Hilton raised her hand.

00:22:09.000 Of course, she wants to be legit.

00:22:11.000 That's so funny.

00:22:12.000 That was the thing in the 90s.

00:22:14.000 Yeah, I guess.

00:22:14.000 Do you know that Paris Hilton is one of the top highest paid DJs in the world?

00:22:19.000 She can't have good taste in music.

00:22:22.000 She's not a DJ. She also has like 20 perfumes. 1.00

00:22:25.000 I think comics that suck should go into DJing. 0.95

00:22:27.000 It seems like it's an open market. 0.98

00:22:29.000 It seems like you just dominate if you have half a sense of entertainment.

00:22:32.000 Oh yeah, who's that guy who's got a billboard on Sunset?

00:22:34.000 Mocha's like, he is like DJing at a swimming pool in Las Vegas.

00:22:37.000 Oh, it was a huge, famous celebrity DJ. You know how in LA you'll always know what's happening in Vegas.

00:22:44.000 Like Paul Harris or one of those guys.

00:22:46.000 And it was literally, you look down and it's like Vegas Swim Club.

00:22:49.000 It's like he's DJing a pool.

00:22:51.000 But those pools will have 15,000 people stuffed into the area going crazy. 0.98

00:22:56.000 It's like a sex party. 0.90

00:22:56.000 I mean, if I was a horny dude, that's probably where I would hang out. 0.90

00:22:59.000 What about a horny girl? 1.00

00:23:00.000 No, I would not hang out there.

00:23:01.000 She's on her way.

00:23:03.000 She's going.

00:23:03.000 We're stopping there on the honeymoon tour.

00:23:05.000 Just wear a Nixon mask and just go crazy. 0.69

00:23:07.000 A Nixon mask. 0.99

00:23:09.000 With like a beautiful naked woman body. 1.00

00:23:11.000 Yes, with a Nixon mask on. 1.00

00:23:14.000 I heard that they recently, this could be bullshit, started making more money on their nightclubs than on the casinos. 0.99

00:23:21.000 That's gotta be true. 0.99

00:23:23.000 It may be.

00:23:24.000 I don't know.

00:23:25.000 I don't know what the numbers are, but I would imagine they make a lot of money on the casinos.

00:23:29.000 Well, because there's people like...

00:23:31.000 What's up?

00:23:31.000 I just heard John Taffer, that guy that does Bar Rescue, talking about it on another interview.

00:23:36.000 He said they'll go in on Friday night and make about $500,000 for their club show and then wake up the next morning and do the pool at noon for $150,000 and leave in the afternoon.

00:23:46.000 We're talking about the actual performers.

00:23:47.000 We're talking about the club itself.

00:23:49.000 We're talking about the casino.

00:23:50.000 That the casino makes more money.

00:23:51.000 But imagine that.

00:23:52.000 If the DJ makes $650,000 for a weekend, you've got to multiply that by, what, 20, 100%.

00:23:59.000 Well, then they have the odd person, like, I am on that show Dice about Andrew Dice Clay.

00:24:02.000 Have you ever had him do the show?

00:24:03.000 Oh, many dice!

00:24:05.000 So, as you know, I mean, I didn't know that this was a real thing, but in the show, the whole premise is that he's paying off his gambling debt to the casino because it's like $800,000 and it's the only way he can pay it back.

00:24:17.000 But that's a true story.

00:24:19.000 Yeah.

00:24:19.000 He was in debt.

00:24:20.000 Like, he would lose $800,000 in one night.

00:24:23.000 So as long as they have people like that, they must be making a lot of money, right?

00:24:27.000 Yeah, there's always going to be people like that.

00:24:28.000 There's always, like, the old lady, like, putting in nickels, but then there's also, like, Dice... 1.00

00:24:32.000 But you also have to think, like, how much money does it cost to run a casino?

00:24:35.000 The overhead is insane.

00:24:37.000 Right.

00:24:38.000 They also exist in this odd, like, Venn diagram of, like, a legal business and an old-world, like, criminal enterprise.

00:24:46.000 And I don't mean that in a mafia way.

00:24:48.000 Like, don't they have, like, India?

00:24:50.000 Like, why is it even legal for them?

00:24:51.000 For them to let someone rack up an $800,000 debt.

00:24:54.000 Like, a normal business business would say, sir, you're $20 over your limit, so we're going to...

00:25:00.000 They just know he's got credit.

00:25:02.000 He's dice.

00:25:02.000 He's going to make money.

00:25:04.000 My grandfather, he gambled away the deed to his house at the Riviera.

00:25:10.000 And they just lost my nana's wedding ring.

00:25:15.000 And then someone told me when I was at Foxwoods, because I was performing, and they said that at Mohegan Sun, they're like, yeah, it's gotten really bad at Mohegan Sun.

00:25:24.000 When you gamble away your car, they won't even give you a ride home.

00:25:27.000 But we at Foxwoods are giving people rides home.

00:25:30.000 Like, it's happening, like, people are just like, they run out of money, and they're like, okay, I can win it all back if I just sell the car.

00:25:36.000 Right.

00:25:37.000 And then the car's gone.

00:25:38.000 Yeah.

00:25:39.000 Here's what's interesting, though.

00:25:40.000 If you win, they ban you.

00:25:42.000 Like, my friend Dana...

00:25:43.000 Like, how is that legal?

00:25:44.000 If you lose, they give you right home.

00:25:46.000 Dana White is a notorious gambler, but he wins millions of dollars sometimes.

00:25:49.000 He's won...

00:25:50.000 I think he said he lost as much as one million dollars, and he's won as much as seven million in a month. 0.99

00:25:55.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:25:56.000 Has he gotten banned from places? 1.00

00:25:57.000 He couldn't.

00:25:57.000 Really?

00:25:58.000 Yes.

00:25:59.000 He's a celebrity.

00:26:00.000 That's so weird.

00:26:01.000 Dude, not only does he get banned, but he gets banned and then he pulls the UFC out of them. 1.00

00:26:04.000 Like, they used to do UFC at the Palms, and he killed the Palms, and the Palms banned him, so he's like, fuck you. 1.00

00:26:10.000 I'll ban you. 0.99

00:26:10.000 We're gonna move to the Hard Rock, or wherever the hell they move to next. 0.99

00:26:12.000 But yeah, they banned him from a bunch of casinos, because he's really good at blackjack.

00:26:17.000 Wow.

00:26:19.000 What's the minimum bet for the Dana White blackjack?

00:26:22.000 I wish I knew. 0.99

00:26:23.000 That sounds fucking crazy. 0.98

00:26:24.000 How is that legal to ban someone once they win at the thing you're saying? 0.99

00:26:27.000 Because I'm saying these casinos are not fully legal.

00:26:30.000 They're like in this weird area. 1.00

00:26:31.000 They reserve the right to ban you if you kick their ass, which is crazy. 0.99

00:26:35.000 Can they say you're card counting or something? 1.00

00:26:37.000 You're not card counting.

00:26:38.000 I mean, even if you are, it doesn't matter.

00:26:40.000 It's legal. 0.98

00:26:40.000 I mean, you can do whatever the fuck you want, I think. 0.98

00:26:43.000 I think as long as it's on your head. 0.99

00:26:44.000 If you're not using a calculator or something.

00:26:46.000 It's technically within the rules of the game, because your job is to sit down and...

00:26:50.000 I guess card counting...

00:26:51.000 What does that mean, though?

00:26:52.000 You're supposed to not know?

00:26:54.000 Say if you have knowledge, you're supposed to ignore it?

00:26:57.000 Right, if you know how to count cards... 1.00

00:26:59.000 That's so stupid. 1.00

00:26:59.000 It's like a girl going to a bar and watching a guy roofie her drink. 1.00

00:27:02.000 Oh, can't pay attention to that.

00:27:03.000 It's not the rules. 0.99

00:27:04.000 You know what the fucking rules are, right? 0.96

00:27:07.000 The rules are, if you know how many decks they're using, and you know when to hit and when not to hit, and just play it smart and count... 0.99

00:27:15.000 And think and calculate.

00:27:17.000 It's a bad example with that.

00:27:19.000 Also, what drives...

00:27:20.000 Why does Dana White... 1.00

00:27:21.000 It was a reach, right?

00:27:22.000 Why does Dana... 0.97

00:27:23.000 The roofie thing?

00:27:24.000 We all accepted it.

00:27:25.000 Sort of.

00:27:25.000 It's your house.

00:27:26.000 We were like, uh-huh, Joe, you got that.

00:27:27.000 Yeah, but I was like, hmm, it's probably not good.

00:27:31.000 Why does Dana White gamble? 1.00

00:27:33.000 I have no idea.

00:27:34.000 Or who's the famous basketball player?

00:27:35.000 Oh, Charles Barkley.

00:27:37.000 What drives those people?

00:27:38.000 They're so rich.

00:27:40.000 Drills.

00:27:40.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:41.000 Also, people that have been hit in the head a lot.

00:27:43.000 Dana's been hit in the head a lot.

00:27:45.000 Notoriously impulsive and notoriously susceptible to addiction, whether it's gambling addiction, alcohol addiction.

00:27:51.000 Really?

00:27:51.000 Yeah.

00:27:52.000 Yeah, it's a big part of CTE, chronic traumatic encephalacy, which you see, I think I said it right.

00:27:58.000 That's brain damage from getting hit in the head.

00:28:01.000 A big part of it...

00:28:02.000 Is he a fighter or something?

00:28:03.000 He was.

00:28:04.000 Did a lot of boxing when he was young.

00:28:05.000 Whoa.

00:28:06.000 Has dome rattled again at times.

00:28:08.000 Got that dome rattled.

00:28:09.000 You're not supposed to get punched in the head ever, right?

00:28:12.000 You're definitely not supposed to get punched in the head multiple times a day for years.

00:28:15.000 For work.

00:28:15.000 What about, like, you train, right?

00:28:17.000 I don't do any kickboxing sparring anymore.

00:28:19.000 At all.

00:28:19.000 No.

00:28:20.000 Because of that.

00:28:20.000 Yeah, and even in jujitsu, you like slam into someone's knee accidentally or a head.

00:28:24.000 You get your head bonked.

00:28:26.000 You don't wrap.

00:28:27.000 But it's not that common.

00:28:29.000 But when I was kickboxing, boy, I got hit in the head a lot.

00:28:32.000 To the point where sometimes I think about some of the decisions I've made.

00:28:36.000 I'm like, what's going on in there?

00:28:38.000 What screws are loose?

00:28:39.000 Even with headgear, you're saying you're still...

00:28:41.000 Oh, it's worse.

00:28:42.000 Headgear's worse.

00:28:43.000 Interesting.

00:28:43.000 I don't watch a lot.

00:28:44.000 Because headgear, it actually makes an artificial lever.

00:28:47.000 Like say if your head is this large, it means if you clip it here, it's got more of a fulcrum effect.

00:28:53.000 Whereas if your head is smaller and compact, then you just take it here.

00:28:56.000 So Richard Nixon mask would be bad because he had a big old chin.

00:29:00.000 Knock him loose a little bit.

00:29:01.000 It depends on how thick the rubber is in the mask.

00:29:03.000 But the idea is not necessarily just the initial impact.

00:29:06.000 It's how much your head moves.

00:29:08.000 Like the stronger your neck is, the less likely you are to get brain damage.

00:29:11.000 So these guys do a lot of neck exercises just to keep their head stable when it gets hit.

00:29:16.000 The idea is like the more your head moves, the more your brain is going to swish around inside your dome.

00:29:21.000 And break off the connective tissue.

00:29:24.000 That's also part of the problem, is connective tissue, this really soft, almost like cotton candy-like tissue that connects your brain to the skull.

00:29:31.000 That stuff gets ripped up.

00:29:33.000 Would you rather be a NFL, whatever the guy that...

00:29:36.000 Linebacker?

00:29:37.000 Is that what it is?

00:29:38.000 Sure.

00:29:38.000 Or a long-term...

00:29:40.000 Prizefighter.

00:29:41.000 Long-term prizefighter, for sure.

00:29:42.000 Really?

00:29:42.000 Because long-term prizefighters can get through it.

00:29:44.000 Like, there's guys like Bernard Hopkins that, you know, fought into his 50s who speaks well, you know? 0.95

00:29:51.000 See, the problem is, even guys that speak well, there's the weird shit that they do, the impulsive stuff.

00:29:57.000 If you talk to people that are CTE experts, they tell you some really disturbing things about brain damage, about how it manifests itself and the weird things that men find themselves doing. 0.92

00:30:08.000 They don't even know why they're doing it.

00:30:09.000 They're just doing it.

00:30:10.000 And, like, real impulsive behavior and just stomping on the gas on the highway and just, like, weird gambling stuff and sex stuff and drug stuff.

00:30:19.000 And a lot of it is connected to CTE. What if you looked over and Natasha was crying, looking at me?

00:30:24.000 No, I just...

00:30:24.000 When I see Moshe...

00:30:27.000 When I see Moshe watching, is it MMA, like where they're like doing 69 and just writhing?

00:30:32.000 You know what they're doing?

00:30:33.000 They're writhing? 0.99

00:30:34.000 Yeah, it's like they're just like, like one's got the head in his dick and then the other one's got his head in his dick and they just kind of like writhe back and forth. 0.99

00:30:44.000 You know Joe's like one of the main commentators for the UFC. No, I know. 0.99

00:30:47.000 I still don't understand it.

00:30:48.000 And that's what you say, right? 1.00

00:30:49.000 Oh, he's got his head in his dick and they're writhing, folks. 1.00

00:30:52.000 Sometimes I have said things along those lines. 1.00

00:30:55.000 It's an odd sport, you have to understand.

00:30:57.000 From a woman who's not into sports and then sees that, it's like I don't understand it. 1.00

00:31:05.000 She comes in and she says always, derisively, did your team win?

00:31:09.000 I'm like, there are no teams.

00:31:11.000 You do on purpose.

00:31:13.000 Oh yeah.

00:31:14.000 I mean, I'm just...

00:31:15.000 There you go. 0.99

00:31:17.000 And they're barefoot, like they maybe have been fucking. 0.99

00:31:20.000 That's the video game. 0.99

00:31:23.000 Yeah, the video game lets you get a little gayer than the actual sport does.

00:31:27.000 Yeah, that one, that's a good one. 1.00

00:31:28.000 You can actually fuck a guy. 1.00

00:31:30.000 Those are women though, aren't they? 1.00

00:31:31.000 That's a great game.

00:31:32.000 Could be.

00:31:33.000 No, that looks like a dude.

00:31:34.000 That's a dude caught in a triangle.

00:31:36.000 So it's people who don't care about brain damage though?

00:31:41.000 Why is that funny?

00:31:43.000 Don't you think that's important?

00:31:44.000 They don't care about the cartilage that connects their head? 0.60

00:31:47.000 It's not cartilage.

00:31:48.000 It's connective tissue.

00:31:51.000 It's not that they don't care.

00:31:54.000 It's just that this is something that they started doing when they were young.

00:31:57.000 They got really good at it, and they see it as a path to make a career.

00:32:01.000 And they like thrills.

00:32:03.000 They like doing things dangerous and exciting.

00:32:05.000 Some of them just accept the risks. 0.96

00:32:07.000 And some of them say, I would rather live a dangerous life that's exciting than a really fucking boring life sitting on the couch atrophying. 0.95

00:32:15.000 I can respect that. 0.94

00:32:16.000 I mean, of course.

00:32:18.000 This is funny, though.

00:32:19.000 This is like going on Da Vinci's podcast and being like, I don't know about this art stuff!

00:32:25.000 I mean, Joe can take it.

00:32:27.000 I'm just saying what my perspective is when I see it.

00:32:31.000 But now you put it like that, too.

00:32:33.000 It's like, what's the alternative?

00:32:34.000 Get a job in a factory?

00:32:37.000 We all die.

00:32:38.000 I mean, this is temporary.

00:32:39.000 This is not going to last, right?

00:32:41.000 So for them, it's like, how am I going to use my meat vehicle?

00:32:44.000 Yeah.

00:32:45.000 And am I going to use it for fun and just go crazy?

00:32:47.000 And I mean, that's the thought process behind it.

00:32:50.000 It's like, yep, I know I'm doing damage to it.

00:32:52.000 And, you know, I know a lot of guys that I've known when they were in their prime where they were just killing everybody.

00:32:58.000 And now they are broken.

00:33:00.000 That's crazy.

00:33:01.000 They're broken.

00:33:01.000 I know guys who can't even brush their teeth.

00:33:03.000 Really? 0.99

00:33:03.000 Their shoulders are so shot, they have to brush their teeth left-handed and they suck at it. 0.99

00:33:08.000 It's crazy. 0.97

00:33:08.000 And how old are they? 0.97

00:33:10.000 In their 30s.

00:33:12.000 What?!

00:33:12.000 Yeah.

00:33:12.000 There is something about the human animal that wants...

00:33:15.000 It's an interesting facet of humanity that wants to achieve greatness.

00:33:20.000 For some reason.

00:33:21.000 The glory of winning in that too is also directly related to the danger of doing it.

00:33:28.000 It's like there's something dangerous about it that makes it super exciting if you pull it off.

00:33:34.000 Winning a fight is a crazy feeling.

00:33:37.000 It's even more than...

00:33:38.000 Because you're making all these other people happy, too.

00:33:40.000 Because people have voted on...

00:33:41.000 How do you do it?

00:33:43.000 You vote on them?

00:33:43.000 Root for you or whatever.

00:33:45.000 You bet on them.

00:33:47.000 But people...

00:33:48.000 I mean, it's so many people...

00:33:49.000 I've noticed so many people get...

00:33:51.000 Their mood is changed if their team wins.

00:33:54.000 That's the problem with MMA though.

00:33:56.000 When Chuck Liddell started losing is when I realized MMA is not a good sport for having to have your guy win.

00:34:04.000 Because eventually your guy will always lose.

00:34:06.000 Oh, really?

00:34:07.000 Always.

00:34:08.000 Because they'll get older.

00:34:09.000 That's like just the inevitable reality.

00:34:11.000 As opposed to a team that swaps people out.

00:34:13.000 Exactly.

00:34:13.000 Keeps it young and good.

00:34:15.000 Your team can always be a winner.

00:34:16.000 But if you root for one fighter, that fighter will get old and the young people will come in.

00:34:20.000 And by old, it's like 38?

00:34:22.000 Yeah.

00:34:22.000 No, that's way old.

00:34:23.000 Oh, really?

00:34:23.000 38 is way old.

00:34:25.000 So like 32 or something.

00:34:26.000 Especially now with drug testing.

00:34:28.000 It used to be back in the day that when you would get tested, it was really like they would say it's like an intelligence test.

00:34:35.000 It's more than a drug test.

00:34:37.000 Like, just don't take anything the remaining few days before your test.

00:34:41.000 And they're just testing your pee for, like, really obvious stuff.

00:34:45.000 But now it's super comprehensive.

00:34:47.000 And they use USADA, the U.S. Anti-Doping Association. 1.00

00:34:50.000 And they fucking crawl up your ass with a microscope. 1.00

00:34:54.000 They wake you up. 1.00

00:34:55.000 Checking for what?

00:34:55.000 Do people watch you pee?

00:34:57.000 Yes.

00:34:57.000 They are in the room with you.

00:34:59.000 Look at your dick, because guys have used rubber dicks. 1.00

00:35:01.000 Yeah, I went to rehab when I was a kid, so I knew all the tricks. 1.00

00:35:04.000 The whizenators. 1.00

00:35:06.000 Or you'd get your homie to piss into a bag, and you'd have the bag in your pocket. 0.80

00:35:09.000 But what kind of drugs are MMA people doing?

00:35:11.000 Steroids.

00:35:12.000 Oh, right.

00:35:13.000 It's not like...

00:35:14.000 You're so hilarious.

00:35:15.000 You know nothing about it.

00:35:16.000 Like, well, that doesn't even make sense.

00:35:17.000 Why test him for drugs?

00:35:19.000 Isn't that illegal?

00:35:19.000 Isn't it illegal?

00:35:20.000 So they're all doing...

00:35:21.000 Why would they do it if it's illegal?

00:35:23.000 Joe, I gotta say, your impression of Natasha is spot on.

00:35:26.000 I don't even understand!

00:35:28.000 What are the rules?

00:35:29.000 You're allowed to do illegal drugs or no?

00:35:31.000 Now I'm horny.

00:35:32.000 Okay, hold on.

00:35:33.000 I just thought that people had, you know, standards and that they wouldn't do that.

00:35:39.000 But you're saying they would all do it if they could.

00:35:41.000 No, not all.

00:35:42.000 There's definitely a core group of champions who have never thought about taking drugs and still don't.

00:35:48.000 Thank you.

00:35:48.000 The problem with steroids is...

00:35:49.000 There's a lot to do.

00:35:50.000 The problem with steroids also is that when one person starts doing it, the person beneath him will lose or has to be pressured to do it.

00:35:58.000 And so it creates this like...

00:35:59.000 I'm sorry if people out there are upset that I'm not a sports fan.

00:36:06.000 Don't think about them.

00:36:07.000 Let's just talk.

00:36:07.000 Be yourself.

00:36:08.000 I do believe that's what's holding us back.

00:36:08.000 You do you, Natasha.

00:36:10.000 Don't sweat it.

00:36:11.000 You do?

00:36:11.000 I don't.

00:36:12.000 I mean, I'm just like not.

00:36:12.000 You think sports are holding us back?

00:36:14.000 No.

00:36:14.000 As humans?

00:36:15.000 Is that what you mean?

00:36:16.000 I think she's doing a bit.

00:36:16.000 What's elevating us?

00:36:18.000 If that's holding us back, what's elevating us?

00:36:20.000 I just think making sports like our main thing.

00:36:22.000 I hate when sports are on in any sort of public establishment.

00:36:25.000 I think it's aesthetically.

00:36:27.000 Oh, God.

00:36:27.000 Okay, I won't go into it.

00:36:28.000 Nothing wrong with it.

00:36:29.000 Go ahead, be yourself.

00:36:30.000 It's okay.

00:36:31.000 You don't like when you see sports in an establishment.

00:36:34.000 I find it depressing.

00:36:35.000 Depressing.

00:36:35.000 What about Law& Order when you watch that?

00:36:37.000 That's not depressing?

00:36:38.000 That's like one notch down, but very depressing.

00:36:41.000 What about CSI? Oh, I love CSI. They pull the head off the carpet and the blood sticking to the head.

00:36:47.000 It's been dead for hours.

00:36:48.000 Natasha, I will say, is extremely connected to aesthetics.

00:36:54.000 More than any human being I've ever met in my life.

00:36:56.000 I think tennis is a nice aesthetic.

00:36:57.000 There you go.

00:36:58.000 Aesthetics.

00:36:59.000 Okay.

00:37:00.000 So that's a sport.

00:37:01.000 I know.

00:37:01.000 That's okay.

00:37:02.000 I think a tennis match, yeah, I could handle that.

00:37:05.000 Why is that okay?

00:37:06.000 Honestly, because I like how they dress.

00:37:09.000 What about basketball?

00:37:10.000 No.

00:37:11.000 I hate those long shorts. 0.99

00:37:12.000 You don't like black people? 1.00

00:37:13.000 No. 0.99

00:37:13.000 I don't like baseball or football. 0.99

00:37:15.000 That's what I mean by aesthetics.

00:37:16.000 You hate when there's a darker aesthetic. 0.93

00:37:18.000 Black people play tennis. 0.95

00:37:19.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:37:20.000 There's a couple of chicks. 1.00

00:37:21.000 They're really good at it.

00:37:24.000 It's not a common thing, though.

00:37:26.000 It's probably because I grew up and I was always the last to get picked for sports because I'm so small.

00:37:31.000 So maybe that's why I hate it.

00:37:32.000 You're so tiny.

00:37:33.000 If you really want to go deep.

00:37:34.000 When I hug you, I'm always worried I'm going to break you.

00:37:36.000 You weigh like 80 pounds.

00:37:37.000 How much do you weigh?

00:37:38.000 I weigh 105. You do not.

00:37:40.000 I'm not that small.

00:37:40.000 Come on, you do not weigh 100 pounds.

00:37:42.000 You're lying to yourself.

00:37:43.000 Do you weigh yourself in with clothes on?

00:37:45.000 No, I do.

00:37:45.000 I mean, I'm not like that skinny.

00:37:47.000 I'm just small. 1.00

00:37:48.000 She weighs 105 while we fuck. 1.00

00:37:50.000 And it's 100 when we're not fucking. 1.00

00:37:51.000 I have a five pound dick. 1.00

00:37:53.000 I mean, and I didn't want to mention that. 0.99

00:37:55.000 I asked Natasha not to bring it out, but it needs to be said.

00:37:58.000 Yeah, I've got an Alonzo Bowden.

00:38:00.000 Two Alonzo Bowdens.

00:38:01.000 I don't know what I'm talking about.

00:38:02.000 Four Alonzo Bowden fingers.

00:38:03.000 I'm just teasing you about the sports.

00:38:06.000 No, you don't have to tease me.

00:38:07.000 I don't like sports.

00:38:07.000 I also don't like video games.

00:38:09.000 The only thing I watch is fighting.

00:38:10.000 I literally don't watch sports.

00:38:12.000 I don't even know the rules.

00:38:13.000 You don't like any sport other than MMA and boxing?

00:38:15.000 No, I don't watch them.

00:38:16.000 I don't even know when they're happening.

00:38:18.000 Like when someone says, oh, did you see the NBA championship game?

00:38:21.000 I'm like, oh, when was it?

00:38:22.000 And they're like, it was last night, man.

00:38:23.000 You didn't watch?

00:38:24.000 It was the thing.

00:38:26.000 The only sport I watch is MMA and have watched consistently since I was a kid is MMA and then boxing very secondarily and then I can't get into kickboxing at all.

00:38:35.000 Really?

00:38:35.000 Do you have much glory?

00:38:36.000 I've seen clips of everything.

00:38:38.000 I don't know why I can't get into it.

00:38:40.000 Because I like MMA much more than boxing.

00:38:42.000 And you'd think I would be more into kickboxing than boxing, but I'm not.

00:38:45.000 Sports just seems like men exercising. 0.63

00:38:49.000 That's funny.

00:38:50.000 I know it's more than that, but that's how I see it.

00:38:54.000 If you saw opera, you'd probably be like, this just seems like fat people singing.

00:38:59.000 I've seen opera.

00:39:00.000 Do you like it?

00:39:00.000 No.

00:39:02.000 I felt like it was this antiquated form of entertainment that I watched.

00:39:05.000 I was super-duper high when I went to see it, because I knew I had to see it.

00:39:09.000 Why did you have to see it?

00:39:11.000 Oh, just I had to do a favor. 0.99

00:39:13.000 So when I went to watch it, I was like, listen, I'm just going to get a blaze out of my fucking mind. 0.99

00:39:18.000 That's a good instinct. 0.97

00:39:19.000 But what's interesting is what I really started paying attention to was all the people in the audience.

00:39:24.000 And there's like this class of people that probably live in like Bel Air and Beverly Hills and want to be seen at the opera.

00:39:31.000 And it's like a big deal to say they're going to the opera.

00:39:34.000 And I was like watching this.

00:39:36.000 I was like, they can't possibly like this.

00:39:37.000 Even if they like it, they don't like it like people like the UFC. That's true.

00:39:42.000 That's true.

00:39:43.000 You're right.

00:39:43.000 No, that's not true.

00:39:45.000 So they're all pretending to like it?

00:39:47.000 No, there's a different level to what they like.

00:39:50.000 It's not true.

00:39:50.000 It's like sophisticated entertainment.

00:39:52.000 I mean, we went to the orchestra, the symphony recently.

00:39:56.000 Moshe hated it.

00:39:57.000 I went to the symphony when I was a kid with my grandma.

00:40:00.000 She used to take me. 1.00

00:40:01.000 And there are some bangers, you know?

00:40:03.000 Bangers.

00:40:03.000 Yeah, you know, like...

00:40:04.000 That's a hot banger.

00:40:08.000 You know that he was just in there, like, doing his thing.

00:40:11.000 But we went to see...

00:40:13.000 I don't even...

00:40:13.000 Who was it?

00:40:14.000 Mahler.

00:40:14.000 And you read the description of Mahler, and it's like, laminations on death, discordant and not pleasant to listen to.

00:40:21.000 So we're going to go sit down for an hour and a half performance of, like, something that in its description is like...

00:40:26.000 Natasha, you didn't like it either, did you?

00:40:27.000 No.

00:40:28.000 And there was like, Moshe got in a fight with two different elderly people.

00:40:31.000 He tried to help this woman.

00:40:33.000 I was walking in.

00:40:34.000 People are on like double crutches.

00:40:36.000 It's so old, you can't imagine it.

00:40:38.000 It's like, it's so old and so white, it's like unbelievable.

00:40:42.000 You can't believe it, you know?

00:40:44.000 And I was walking in and this old man was sitting down.

00:40:48.000 He's like, 85. And so I told him, he started to get up to let me through.

00:40:52.000 I go, you don't need to get up.

00:40:53.000 I can kind of crawl around you.

00:40:54.000 And he goes, we're not all as young as you.

00:40:57.000 Some of us are going to die soon.

00:40:59.000 And I was like, oh, I'm trying to like, I just read the Wikipedia page.

00:41:03.000 I go like, oh, well, I guess that's what we're here to listen to, right?

00:41:06.000 And the guys, nothing, iced me out.

00:41:09.000 And I sit there like bored and the worst.

00:41:12.000 And it's got, it's the worst kind of symphony, Mahler, because it always seems like it's ending.

00:41:17.000 It'll be like, da-da-dun-dun-dun. 0.97

00:41:19.000 And you're like, cool, let's get the fuck out of here. 0.98

00:41:21.000 Dun-da-dun-dun-dun. 0.99

00:41:22.000 But then what about the old lady who yelled at you and she almost fell down the stairs?

00:41:26.000 Then as we were leaving, I was an old man and he was so feeble and wobbly that I was staring at his body like in my mind.

00:41:34.000 You ever have this kind of situation where you're like, this person's going to fall.

00:41:38.000 I can feel it in my bones way before it happened.

00:41:41.000 Or like way up on the rafters.

00:41:43.000 In the steepest possible.

00:41:45.000 And I could feel it.

00:41:47.000 Like, this guy's gonna fall. 0.80

00:41:48.000 He's too feeble. 0.53

00:41:49.000 He's too old to be ascending these stairs. 0.77

00:41:51.000 And he, sure enough, does.

00:41:52.000 He just starts to, like, tip over.

00:41:54.000 And he goes for it.

00:41:55.000 Because I was already, like, looking at him, I grabbed him by, like, the top, the collar, and the bottom of his jacket.

00:42:02.000 And I just, like, held him upright.

00:42:03.000 Oh, my God. 0.99

00:42:04.000 And he fucking, like, just, like, shrugged me off of him. 1.00

00:42:08.000 Gave me a dirty look and stormed off. 1.00

00:42:10.000 And I was like, I just saved your fucking life, you old bitch. 1.00

00:42:13.000 He wanted to go. 1.00

00:42:14.000 Maybe he wanted to go.

00:42:14.000 Right.

00:42:15.000 Maybe he was a good way to go.

00:42:16.000 He's like, I listen to Mahler.

00:42:17.000 I listen to Mahler.

00:42:18.000 I'm out. 1.00

00:42:19.000 Depressing shit. 1.00

00:42:20.000 Pretends he slips. 1.00

00:42:22.000 Listen to his wife complaining about her stool.

00:42:25.000 I saw more blood in my stool.

00:42:27.000 He's like, I'm just gonna fall.

00:42:29.000 You know what my grandma... 1.00

00:42:30.000 It's glorious.

00:42:30.000 I'm on a good steep angle.

00:42:32.000 Do I know your grandma?

00:42:33.000 No, what she said to me on her deathbed, like days before she died, she looked at me and she said, if there is a God, he saves the worst part of your life for the very end.

00:42:42.000 I was like, bye!

00:42:45.000 I've been thinking about that because I was like going into like an old person's home seems so depressing like I would never want to do that to go away from your Your stuff in your house, you know, like I'm just trying to think what's the best way to go I think old people by themselves in a home alone Super depressing too Yeah, 1.00

00:43:04.000 yeah.

00:43:05.000 I lived in New York when I first moved there.

00:43:07.000 I stayed with my grandparents in New Jersey, and my grandmother had had an aneurysm.

00:43:11.000 They gave her 72 hours to live.

00:43:12.000 She lived 12 years.

00:43:14.000 Wow.

00:43:14.000 Yeah, dude.

00:43:15.000 How were those 12 years?

00:43:17.000 Rough.

00:43:17.000 I was only there living with them for a few months.

00:43:20.000 I think I lived there for maybe five months, six months, but it was bad.

00:43:25.000 It was bad.

00:43:25.000 Like, my grandfather, they had a nun or a nun.

00:43:28.000 A nurse would come over, and they would help, but this, like, She would have horrible bed sores. 1.00

00:43:33.000 She couldn't move.

00:43:34.000 She was paralyzed.

00:43:34.000 She was completely vegetabilized.

00:43:37.000 No, she would talk a little bit when her teeth were falling out. 0.73

00:43:40.000 They had all fallen out.

00:43:41.000 Did she want to live at that point?

00:43:43.000 No, no, no.

00:43:44.000 But I do think the two main ways to die are to have a deathbed.

00:43:48.000 That seems kind of glamorous because then you could call people to you and give them wisdom and have last words.

00:43:53.000 No, but if you die in an accident, then you never get to have any of that.

00:43:57.000 No, but the third way...

00:43:58.000 You can't have, like, those funny last words.

00:44:00.000 Wait, the third way, what is your bit about your grandma on her deathbed?

00:44:04.000 I don't remember. 1.00

00:44:05.000 Oh, the third way, though, is to go mad and to shit your pants and to... 0.99

00:44:10.000 Oh, my grandma didn't die like that, though. 0.99

00:44:12.000 That's just a joke.

00:44:12.000 My grandma did.

00:44:13.000 My grandma's great fear her entire life was becoming a feeble, senile person that was babbling to herself. 0.61

00:44:19.000 And, of course, it came true.

00:44:20.000 Because the only way to avoid that is to have a heart attack or an accident.

00:44:23.000 I feel bad that I say that about my nana. 0.99

00:44:25.000 It's just a dumb joke.

00:44:26.000 Well, you know, they have assisted death now in California, and 11 people did it on like the first day. 0.99

00:44:31.000 That's crazy.

00:44:32.000 Check, please.

00:44:33.000 11 people did it on the first day?

00:44:35.000 Yeah, which I absolutely believe in. 0.87

00:44:37.000 I mean, I think, God damn it, why do we need to have people die of natural causes when they're horribly suffering and on their way out? 0.87

00:44:43.000 What if they're depressed? 0.98

00:44:44.000 That's a good question, right?

00:44:45.000 It's like, what is suffering?

00:44:47.000 If you're physically fine, you have a 70 beats per minute resting heart rate, you have no cancer, but you just... 1.00

00:44:53.000 Five pound dick. 1.00

00:44:53.000 Every day, five pound dick. 1.00

00:44:55.000 Every day, hating life. 1.00

00:44:57.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:44:58.000 In Scandinavia, where they've had euthanasia for a long time, they've started to accept that.

00:45:05.000 A person who's suffering from chronic depression can opt out and take assisted suicide as a means to escape their depression.

00:45:11.000 Right.

00:45:12.000 Isn't a part of the problem with chronic depressions, like, we don't know what they're feeling?

00:45:16.000 Like, if you have a broken arm, like, okay, I broke my arm.

00:45:20.000 I kind of get it.

00:45:20.000 But if someone says, I have chronic depression, I was like, okay, what does it feel like?

00:45:25.000 I don't know.

00:45:26.000 I don't know what your depression is.

00:45:27.000 And your chronic depression might be different than another person's and another person's.

00:45:31.000 And how do you know that it can't be turned around with a pill or with exercise and diet?

00:45:36.000 And if you did turn it around, like, I have friends that were suicidal, and now they're super happy.

00:45:42.000 Well, the problem is one of the main tenets of depression is hopelessness.

00:45:46.000 So if you can't feel at all hopeful, how are you ever going to try to get your way out?

00:45:52.000 Another strange thing about mental illness, in my experience, and I have a lot of it in my family, Uh, and is that it always looked, not always, but it off, except for schizophrenia and stuff looks obviously like that person's sick and can't help it.

00:46:04.000 But with depression or alcoholism, that kind of thing, it always feels like you could act differently.

00:46:11.000 If you just tried a little bit harder, you could not be doing this.

00:46:15.000 You could be less depressed.

00:46:16.000 You could go apply for a job.

00:46:18.000 You could get up.

00:46:18.000 It looks Schizophrenia is like a...

00:46:20.000 Schizophrenia you can see is impossible, but it looks to the normal brain like close enough to normal that they could just change their circumstance if only they tried harder.

00:46:29.000 And mental illness is maybe the inability to try harder.

00:46:33.000 So it's very seductive to the normal brain to think of mentally ill people as like lazy or not trying to get better.

00:46:39.000 Yeah.

00:46:40.000 I just think it's one of those very odd things to quantify.

00:46:45.000 Almost impossible.

00:46:46.000 Like, I don't know what you're feeling, you know?

00:46:49.000 And what is, like, what's normal for some people?

00:46:52.000 You know, and, like, some people are just ecstatic all the time.

00:46:55.000 Like, what is normal for them?

00:46:57.000 And also, antidepressants are like literally just a chemical experiment with somebody's brain.

00:47:03.000 Like, oh, if I tinkle this and do this.

00:47:05.000 Yeah, but I know people who, ever since they started taking antidepressants, it's changed their life and their lives way better.

00:47:10.000 Sure.

00:47:10.000 Have you ever taken, either of you ever taken an antidepressant?

00:47:12.000 No.

00:47:13.000 Someone gave me some Adderall once.

00:47:14.000 That's not the same.

00:47:16.000 I was on antidepressants when I was a kid, when I was like 13, 12 year old.

00:47:20.000 Do you remember your personality changing?

00:47:22.000 I remember my brain doing things to me that I didn't like.

00:47:25.000 Like what?

00:47:25.000 Physically, like I started to see things in the horizon of my vision.

00:47:29.000 I started to feel like less hungry.

00:47:34.000 Wait, what is see things in the horizon of your vision?

00:47:37.000 Oh, like actual apparitions?

00:47:39.000 Not apparitions, like sort of hallucinogenic fractal situations, you know?

00:47:44.000 I started to see that.

00:47:45.000 I could feel it tinkering with my brain.

00:47:48.000 Of course, what was happening was I was getting given antidepressants to combat being a juvenile delinquent, like druggie.

00:47:56.000 And so it wasn't treating a thing that existed.

00:48:00.000 So a psychiatrist gave you this? 0.98

00:48:01.000 Yeah, I was all fucked up with psychiatrists. 0.98

00:48:04.000 Psychiatrists will give you... 0.99

00:48:04.000 That's the real problem, right? 0.99

00:48:05.000 They'll give it to people that don't need it.

00:48:07.000 That's what's happening with the opioid crisis.

00:48:09.000 People will just give you OxyContin.

00:48:12.000 It just seems so crazy.

00:48:14.000 It is crazy.

00:48:15.000 This doctor told me this weekend, I was talking to a family member that's a doctor, that it takes eight days of a regimen of what's the drug in the current...

00:48:26.000 There's one drug that all the opiate addicts are getting addicted to.

00:48:30.000 It's not OxyContin?

00:48:31.000 It's not OxyContin.

00:48:32.000 Fentanyl?

00:48:33.000 Yeah, fentanyl.

00:48:34.000 Super deadly.

00:48:35.000 It takes eight days to get hooked, and a treatment regimen is something like 12 days.

00:48:40.000 So it's like everybody that's given the treatment regimen for regular pain is having to kick it when they get off, and that's why we've got a crisis.

00:48:49.000 That's incredible that eight days in, you're hooked.

00:48:52.000 It's insane.

00:48:53.000 Because everybody who takes, if you break your leg or something...

00:48:55.000 They give you fentanyl?

00:48:56.000 No, I don't know why they give it to you.

00:48:58.000 Why wouldn't they just give you medical marijuana?

00:49:00.000 For a broken leg?

00:49:01.000 I don't know, for pain.

00:49:02.000 It's real simple.

00:49:04.000 I mean, you're saying it like you haven't thought it through?

00:49:06.000 Because they make a lot more money selling you something you can't get anywhere else.

00:49:09.000 I'm too naive.

00:49:11.000 Isn't that like the first rule of being a doctor?

00:49:13.000 We're not going to hurt you?

00:49:14.000 They have relationships with pharmaceutical companies.

00:49:17.000 I mean, it's a standard thing.

00:49:18.000 I don't want to believe that people are like that. 0.68

00:49:20.000 But there's also a bunch of doctors that are ignorant to the actual positive benefits of pot.

00:49:24.000 They have a negative association about pot.

00:49:26.000 People don't smoke pot.

00:49:27.000 But also, to get real, if you have a compound fracture, what you need is more than medical marijuana.

00:49:32.000 At least at first.

00:49:33.000 You don't agree with me?

00:49:34.000 No.

00:49:35.000 You would take...

00:49:36.000 Your bone is sticking out of your leg.

00:49:39.000 Yeah, it hurts.

00:49:40.000 You pop it back in, and what would you take?

00:49:42.000 Yeah, once you get the cast on it, you're fine.

00:49:45.000 You just sit there.

00:49:47.000 It sucks when you move, but you don't have to take that stuff.

00:49:50.000 You don't.

00:49:50.000 And medical marijuana, supposedly, they did a recent test and 93% of people with chronic pain preferred marijuana over opiates.

00:49:58.000 God, my mom has pain, and she's never tried drugs, and I just can't get her to try. 0.99

00:50:04.000 There's such a stigma.

00:50:06.000 She'd probably try fentanyl, because a doctor said it was okay, then marijuana.

00:50:12.000 I wish we could change the...

00:50:14.000 I am not a fan of pain pills.

00:50:16.000 I hear you.

00:50:17.000 I got my knee reconstructed, and I didn't take anything.

00:50:20.000 Really?

00:50:21.000 Yeah, I'm like, I'm not taking them.

00:50:22.000 Well, you took marijuana, though.

00:50:24.000 No, I wasn't going to smoke a pot back then.

00:50:25.000 How much did you suffer?

00:50:27.000 It's not that bad.

00:50:28.000 It's just pain.

00:50:29.000 It depends on your tolerance for pain.

00:50:31.000 Yeah, it's the kind of pain that you just go, okay, well, that's what that feels like.

00:50:34.000 Okay, now I know what that is.

00:50:35.000 You know, back pain is one of the harder ones.

00:50:37.000 Look how many tattoos he has.

00:50:38.000 Because it's like everything you do.

00:50:39.000 That's a very overrated pain, by the way.

00:50:42.000 It doesn't hurt?

00:50:43.000 It's almost nothing.

00:50:43.000 It's like scratches.

00:50:44.000 It feels like this.

00:50:44.000 Yeah, no, I've heard people say it hurt more than anything in their life, so you're just tough.

00:50:48.000 Those people are pussies. 1.00

00:50:51.000 It doesn't hurt that much. 1.00

00:50:54.000 It just absolutely does not hurt that much.

00:50:57.000 There's spots where it's not comfortable, like bones, like elbow bone, when they go over the elbow bone.

00:51:02.000 And oddly enough, right when they get close to your chest, that's painful.

00:51:06.000 But, not childbirth. 0.99

00:51:08.000 It's fucking manageable. 0.99

00:51:09.000 You just go, woo! 0.99

00:51:12.000 I think a lot of it is just how you think about the pain.

00:51:15.000 Of course.

00:51:15.000 And you fester.

00:51:16.000 What's the most painful...

00:51:17.000 Does anyone know what the most painful thing a human being can experience is?

00:51:21.000 What's like the top threshold?

00:51:23.000 It seems to me a compound fracture is as bad as it gets, but maybe I'm told...

00:51:27.000 It just seems awful.

00:51:28.000 Burning to death probably hurts. 0.99

00:51:30.000 Broken bones suck. 0.99

00:51:32.000 A compound fracture is just a broken bone and a horrible laceration. 0.93

00:51:36.000 Right.

00:51:36.000 I guess that's true.

00:51:37.000 I had a broken arm and it wasn't that bad.

00:51:39.000 I think burning.

00:51:40.000 I think you're right.

00:51:41.000 Burning.

00:51:42.000 Burning is one of the most absolutely painful ones.

00:51:44.000 Burning and not burning to death.

00:51:46.000 I think that's rough.

00:51:47.000 The recovery process.

00:51:48.000 Do you know that when burn victims are in the hospital, other burn victims, random strangers, go to them and talk to them?

00:51:55.000 Wow.

00:51:56.000 I didn't know that.

00:51:56.000 My friend Zach, Zach Krager, who's from The Widest Kids You Know, and he's a successful actor.

00:52:02.000 He's on that show, Wrecked.

00:52:04.000 He told me he burned himself at a party in the Caribbean, and in the Caribbean, people would go visit, burn victims from the Caribbean would go visit him.

00:52:13.000 They're like a community, like AA or something?

00:52:15.000 Yeah, because apparently the pain is so intense and insane that they, How nice.

00:52:19.000 It's interesting.

00:52:20.000 Let me say this now before I forget.

00:52:22.000 People who love Steve-O. Steve-O did something.

00:52:24.000 I don't know what the fuck he did. 0.99

00:52:26.000 But on his Instagram, if you're going to Denver this weekend, Steve-O's going to be in Denver. 0.99

00:52:30.000 He has horrible burns all over his body.

00:52:34.000 And he's looking for some sort of an EMT to take care of him, like someone to help him dress his wounds, because he's still going to do his shows at the Comedy Works.

00:52:42.000 What?

00:52:42.000 And apparently he won't tell the story of what happened to him, because he wants to tell it on stage.

00:52:48.000 But he put these images, we put a video of it up on Instagram, and his fucking skin is falling off of his arm. 0.99

00:52:56.000 But he's still going to do a show? 0.99

00:52:58.000 Yeah, it looks really bad.

00:52:58.000 Don't do your show, dude.

00:53:00.000 Go to the hospital.

00:53:01.000 But I also want to say to Steve-O, if you listen to this, there's a new stem cell therapy that they've created for people that have burns, where they spray stem cells all over the burn, and the healing time is radically reduced, as well as the scarring.

00:53:15.000 The scarring is radically reduced.

00:53:18.000 So he's got to look into that.

00:53:20.000 They put tilapia skin on the burn.

00:53:21.000 You heard about this?

00:53:22.000 Whoa.

00:53:23.000 Fish scales on burns apparently is one of the much, so much more healing than bandages.

00:53:29.000 Whoa.

00:53:30.000 I don't know why, but it like creates this sort of, you know, skin on skin healing energy apparently.

00:53:35.000 There you go.

00:53:36.000 Wow. 0.98

00:53:36.000 Doctors trying orthodox prostitute burn victims using fish skin. 0.98

00:53:39.000 That's fascinating.

00:53:40.000 Is Steve-O going to be okay?

00:53:42.000 Yeah, he's going to be okay.

00:53:43.000 But he's got, go to the Steve-O Instagram page.

00:53:46.000 So you can see it.

00:53:47.000 But the stem cell treatment is pretty radical.

00:53:50.000 Like, they've shown people with third-degree burns, they spray it on them, and in a couple of days, it's gone.

00:53:54.000 That's crazy.

00:53:55.000 Yeah, like, literally no scar, no nothing.

00:53:58.000 It just heals.

00:53:59.000 That's interesting.

00:54:00.000 Yeah.

00:54:00.000 I mean, we're in a new world.

00:54:03.000 Not this, the next one.

00:54:04.000 The next one.

00:54:06.000 Did he take it off?

00:54:07.000 Oh wait, what about that one?

00:54:08.000 Wait a minute, he took it down?

00:54:09.000 That's a video of him getting blood poured on his face.

00:54:12.000 Oh, he took it down.

00:54:13.000 Whoa, that's crazy.

00:54:15.000 So he is telling...

00:54:16.000 He was asking for people to come and see him in Denver.

00:54:21.000 Like, all that stuff all over his body, all those, like, he showed what that looked like. 0.98

00:54:26.000 Click on that, because it just seems like, yeah, fuck, this is one video that he had... 0.98

00:54:31.000 Okay, he's not going to show anything. 0.97

00:54:34.000 But the next video, he showed what's going on under those bandages, and it's horrific.

00:54:39.000 Oh, maybe it got flagged.

00:54:40.000 What's the most painful thing you've ever experienced?

00:54:44.000 I don't know.

00:54:47.000 I feel like I'm so lucky.

00:54:49.000 What about you?

00:54:49.000 You got nothing?

00:54:50.000 I mean...

00:54:51.000 Your shoulder?

00:54:52.000 I'm a baby.

00:54:53.000 Her shoulder popped out in Hawaii and it was...

00:54:55.000 That was not even that painful though.

00:54:57.000 I just don't like getting blood drawn.

00:54:59.000 I felt very weak as a man at that moment.

00:55:01.000 She popped out of the ocean and her shoulder was separated.

00:55:04.000 From body surfing.

00:55:05.000 Did you get an MRI? Do you know what's going on?

00:55:08.000 Oh yeah, it was like three years ago.

00:55:09.000 It was just a dislocated...

00:55:10.000 Right, but no tearing or anything like that?

00:55:13.000 It still doesn't feel the same.

00:55:14.000 I apparently dislocated my shoulder and I didn't even know.

00:55:16.000 Weird.

00:55:17.000 I could see it physically on her body.

00:55:19.000 Although she doesn't have as much muscle as you.

00:55:21.000 But I was looking at her arm going like, I don't know what to do about that.

00:55:24.000 I don't know what I'm going to do.

00:55:26.000 I guess I could hoist her on my shoulder and walk back.

00:55:29.000 I just moved my arm and it came back.

00:55:31.000 It just popped back in.

00:55:32.000 You're supposed to, like, for some people, you're supposed to, like, lay them down and stretch their arm, like, pull it out, and then it'll fall back in.

00:55:39.000 The most I know about shoulder dislocations is from Lethal Weapon.

00:55:43.000 Oh.

00:55:43.000 So slam them up against a wall.

00:55:45.000 Yeah. 0.93

00:55:45.000 He would do that. 0.93

00:55:46.000 He would throw it in himself.

00:55:48.000 But some people just have loose shoulders.

00:55:50.000 Like, I know some girl who, like, every time she has sex or, like, one out of five times, her shoulder becomes dislocated.

00:55:55.000 I'll be honest, Joe.

00:55:56.000 Natasha has some of the loosest shoulders in the game. 0.59

00:55:58.000 Ooh.

00:55:58.000 Yeah.

00:55:59.000 Maybe those girls are just like drama queens. 1.00

00:56:01.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:56:02.000 No, no, they always go like this and they pop their shoulder out. 0.99

00:56:04.000 Just like being hurt while they're fucking. 0.99

00:56:05.000 I'm getting a salt. 1.00

00:56:06.000 It's like a salt. 1.00

00:56:07.000 Can you imagine, though, how bad that would be if you were fucking a girl and her shoulder got dislocated? 1.00

00:56:11.000 Yeah, that would be really bad. 0.99

00:56:13.000 I'd get her some pads. 0.95

00:56:14.000 Shoulder pads.

00:56:15.000 Some shoulder pads?

00:56:16.000 Like some football pads?

00:56:17.000 Some strong support, yeah.

00:56:18.000 I do that anyway just because I like a more masculine woman, so I like her to be wearing. 0.99

00:56:21.000 Big back.

00:56:22.000 Something with a helmet.

00:56:24.000 Yeah.

00:56:24.000 Just like someone...

00:56:25.000 Give her a little TBI. Traumatic booty injury. 1.00

00:56:28.000 Wow!

00:56:30.000 Man, you guys would be in jail.

00:56:31.000 It's so easy to go to jail now.

00:56:33.000 Yeah, we should be in jail just for saying this, right?

00:56:35.000 You can go to jail just for talking about it.

00:56:37.000 We're both married now, so we can...

00:56:37.000 Aren't you glad to not be dating right now?

00:56:39.000 Oh, yeah.

00:56:40.000 It seems like a nightmare for everybody I know that is.

00:56:41.000 Oh, yeah.

00:56:42.000 It seems so scary.

00:56:43.000 If you get lucky, you find someone that's awesome, it's great.

00:56:45.000 It's a good time, and it's fun and exciting, but most of the time you're not lucky.

00:56:47.000 You guys feel like you got it right under the wire.

00:56:49.000 Well, you know, I remember...

00:56:50.000 What does that mean?

00:56:51.000 Like, the PC, like, you know, like, now it's like, if a girl wants to, she can just say that she didn't consent, and you'd probably... 0.83

00:56:59.000 Oh, I'd make them find forms, fill out forms.

00:57:01.000 That's what I mean, just because they're doing that so much now.

00:57:03.000 But you didn't need forms.

00:57:04.000 I think you should have a stack of them next to the bed just to let chicks know that this is, like, really casual. 0.98

00:57:10.000 They do that, though.

00:57:11.000 There's so many forms.

00:57:12.000 All these big stars do that.

00:57:14.000 They make you, like, Instagram...

00:57:15.000 Tom Cruise? 1.00

00:57:16.000 No, like, there's a story about Justin Bieber will make you, like, videotape yourself saying, like, I'm a sound-minded body and I choose to fuck Justin Bieber, you know? 0.99

00:57:23.000 Oh, that makes sense. 0.99

00:57:24.000 Or whatever. 1.00

00:57:25.000 Because he's fucking a lot of skinks. 1.00

00:57:27.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:57:28.000 Allegedly.

00:57:29.000 And, you know, they're probably trying to get over on him.

00:57:31.000 Yeah.

00:57:32.000 I mean, I would imagine if you're that wealthy, like, you have to worry about everything you do all the time.

00:57:37.000 I'm sure.

00:57:37.000 But there are a lot of guys who are...

00:57:40.000 Probably trying to take advantage of girls. 1.00

00:57:42.000 Oh, for sure.

00:57:43.000 Maybe there's more of that.

00:57:44.000 Maybe that's on the rise, so it's bad for you boys.

00:57:47.000 I bet it's the same as it's always been.

00:57:49.000 There's always been creeps, and there's always been creeps on both sides.

00:57:52.000 The thing is that there's more creeps on the man's side.

00:57:55.000 Let's get real.

00:57:58.000 There's more psychos, maybe. 0.99

00:58:01.000 More crazy people that you date, but there's more predators. 0.98

00:58:05.000 There are more male predators than there are female predators. 0.99

00:58:08.000 I'm sure there are female predators, and there are psycho men.

00:58:10.000 But if we were to really do some number crunching...

00:58:13.000 Yeah, I would imagine it's not even.

00:58:15.000 I think it's 50-50.

00:58:16.000 I've never had an experience that I was actively scared in.

00:58:20.000 I've had experiences where I was like, I'm not spending the night at this girl's house because I don't know if I'd wake up.

00:58:25.000 But remember our friend, this girl emailed him.

00:58:27.000 That was a weird laugh.

00:58:28.000 Well, I'm just saying that.

00:58:29.000 That's too real.

00:58:29.000 It is real.

00:58:31.000 I remember this one girl, I was at her house and I was like, oh, this person maybe would kill me in my sleep. 0.94

00:58:36.000 She was crazy.

00:58:38.000 I remember she kept... 0.99

00:58:40.000 She was like real Hollywood punk trash right when I moved to town. 1.00

00:58:45.000 You okay with this story? 0.99

00:58:47.000 She's so okay with it.

00:58:48.000 She kept going...

00:58:50.000 She kept... 0.99

00:58:52.000 Asked me to put a cigarette out on her and I was like, I don't think I can do that and I don't think I can do that But I would like kind of ash on her And then I remember that she was she was she kept when she would go down on me and she would kept like horribly like biting me in my genitals and And she was biting my balls, 1.00

00:59:16.000 I remember. 0.98

00:59:17.000 And I was like, please stop that.

00:59:18.000 Please no.

00:59:20.000 And then all of a sudden we kept making out and she looked down and she was like, what is that?

00:59:24.000 The way you say, what is that when somebody's got an STD? What is this?

00:59:30.000 And I looked down and there was a fucking contusion in my nuts. 1.00

00:59:35.000 From her biting you? 1.00

00:59:35.000 From her bite, she burst a blood vessel. 1.00

00:59:38.000 And then she was mad about it?

00:59:40.000 No, she had done it. 1.00

00:59:42.000 It's called a wound, you cunt. 1.00

00:59:44.000 She had done it and not... 1.00

00:59:48.000 You'll have a little respect. 1.00

00:59:49.000 My wife's in the room, so she's sucking my balls so hard that... 1.00

00:59:54.000 Mosh, remember our friend, the girl emailed him and said, just so you know, I know we didn't have sex, but if we had, you didn't have permission and it would have been rape. 1.00

01:00:04.000 Right. 1.00

01:00:04.000 She goes, what the fuck? 1.00

01:00:06.000 Our friend was like... 1.00

01:00:07.000 Our friend was at Reed College, actually.

01:00:10.000 Not Reed.

01:00:11.000 Yes, at Reed.

01:00:11.000 Not Evergreen, but Reed.

01:00:13.000 Where it's sort of the center of the woke, sort of PC campus culture.

01:00:18.000 That's the extreme.

01:00:19.000 That's very extreme.

01:00:20.000 She called him and said she was drunk, and she came on to him.

01:00:23.000 Oh, God.

01:00:24.000 His name's Andrew Michon.

01:00:25.000 He's a...

01:00:26.000 Oh, I shouldn't say that?

01:00:27.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:00:27.000 Oh, maybe I shouldn't say that.

01:00:29.000 It's okay.

01:00:29.000 Oh, because I just feel like I'm telling his...

01:00:31.000 He didn't do anything!

01:00:32.000 No, no!

01:00:33.000 She came on to him.

01:00:34.000 Let's not say her name.

01:00:35.000 I don't know who she is, but he's a comedian, and I just figured he'd want to shout out.

01:00:38.000 But at any rate, sorry.

01:00:40.000 He's a great comedian.

01:00:42.000 He deftly avoided...

01:00:43.000 He's at the punchline in San Francisco.

01:00:46.000 At any rate, he didn't hook up with her.

01:00:49.000 She came on to him and he was like, I'm not feeling this.

01:00:51.000 No thank you.

01:00:52.000 Went home, went to bed. 1.00

01:00:53.000 Gay guy. 0.96

01:00:54.000 And then she texted him like a week later and was like, I just wanted to thank you for not taking me home that night because I was drunk.

01:01:01.000 It wouldn't have been consensual.

01:01:02.000 It would have been rape. 1.00

01:01:03.000 So thank you.

01:01:05.000 Well, that's how a lot of people want to firmly establish that, though.

01:01:10.000 That if you are an adult and you're drinking and you have sex, it's rape.

01:01:15.000 Well, it is hard, though, because you have to understand, being a woman, you are so vulnerable.

01:01:18.000 Men have more upper body strength.

01:01:20.000 We do have a hole, and they have a thing that goes into the hole.

01:01:23.000 Whoa, you're saying crazy things right now that no one knows.

01:01:26.000 Slow down.

01:01:27.000 If you're going to drop that kind of knowledge, pace it.

01:01:29.000 Imagine yourself if you had a hole instead, and you didn't have those muscles, and you were just walking around.

01:01:35.000 Well, what is the idea?

01:01:37.000 Men are afraid that women are going to laugh at them.

01:01:40.000 Women are afraid men are going to kill them. 1.00

01:01:43.000 Yeah, those are both very different things.

01:01:45.000 Yeah, but that's a reality.

01:01:47.000 Just like when you say there's the equal dispensation of predators on each side, it's like, well, no, there really aren't, right?

01:01:53.000 No, I said there's creeps on both sides.

01:01:55.000 I didn't necessarily think it was equal.

01:01:57.000 No, but what I mean is, and I wasn't doing that...

01:01:59.000 I might have even said that, but it probably was flippant.

01:02:02.000 But my point is that the world that women walk around in is one where they fear that the worst case scenario is they're going to be kidnapped, raped, and murdered.

01:02:11.000 And our worst case scenario usually is not that.

01:02:14.000 Yeah.

01:02:15.000 Well, exactly.

01:02:16.000 The rape part, in particular.

01:02:17.000 Most of the time, it's not that. 1.00

01:02:18.000 And if it is, it's also from a fucking man. 0.99

01:02:20.000 From a dude. 1.00

01:02:21.000 Yeah.

01:02:21.000 I mean, I had an argument with a guy who's a men's rights activist about that.

01:02:26.000 He was like, actually, more men are raped than women. 1.00

01:02:28.000 I go, hey, stupid. 1.00

01:02:29.000 They're raped by men. 1.00

01:02:31.000 You're just reinforcing the argument against men. 1.00

01:02:35.000 That's such a dumb argument. 0.99

01:02:37.000 They haven't even looked into it. 1.00

01:02:39.000 It's such a surface thing to say. 0.76

01:02:41.000 If you've done the next step, who's raping these kids? 0.94

01:02:44.000 Oh yeah, guys. 0.65

01:02:45.000 Probably shouldn't bring that up.

01:02:46.000 Yeah, you probably shouldn't bring it up.

01:02:47.000 If you want to support men, if your whole thing is that men are awesome, men are actually the victims.

01:02:52.000 We're raped more than women. 0.99

01:02:53.000 By what?

01:02:54.000 Goblins? 1.00

01:02:55.000 Fucking demons are coming in the middle of the night and raping you? 1.00

01:02:57.000 That's such a good point. 1.00

01:02:59.000 It's by other men. 0.85

01:03:00.000 But this guy was saying it like, I got you with this fact that I bet you didn't know.

01:03:05.000 Well, because people like to talk in talking points.

01:03:08.000 You had that experience with the alt-right people on your show?

01:03:11.000 What's that?

01:03:12.000 Just that they don't think things through.

01:03:14.000 Remember that guy was trying to tell you that the people at the Women's March, he's like, how did they take off their work?

01:03:19.000 And it's like, it was on a Saturday, dude.

01:03:21.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:03:22.000 We had this guy on the show that was like, the problem is it was all these out-of-work people that just, I don't know about, this was a talking point in the right about the Women's March, or just about protests in general.

01:03:32.000 I don't know how these people are able to have such privilege that they can just take work off to go protest.

01:03:37.000 It's like, first of all, there's a history of protests where people strike.

01:03:40.000 That's the whole idea.

01:03:42.000 But second of all, the women's march in particular was on a Saturday.

01:03:45.000 Who was this guy?

01:03:46.000 Who was this guy?

01:03:47.000 A kid named Lucian Wintrich.

01:03:48.000 No, you were asking me.

01:03:50.000 He's like a Milo wannabe.

01:03:51.000 Yeah, who is like a good alt-right person that's reasonable.

01:03:54.000 I came to you because we were trying to get...

01:03:56.000 Basically, we did the show, right?

01:03:58.000 And we started with cultural appropriation.

01:04:00.000 We ended with the alt-right, with meet the alt-right.

01:04:02.000 And so we were trying really hard to...

01:04:06.000 Really explore ideas, right?

01:04:08.000 And I guess if there's one thing I realized in the wake of...

01:04:12.000 We definitely triggered the alt-right with that cultural appropriation thing.

01:04:14.000 People were very upset that we even broached the topic without condemning it, essentially.

01:04:20.000 And I think there's one thing I realized in the wake of all of the show is, like, there's one position I truly don't respect.

01:04:27.000 It's, I disagree with you, therefore I won't listen to you. 1.00

01:04:30.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:04:31.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:04:32.000 That's really...

01:04:33.000 There's nothing about that that I have any respect for.

01:04:35.000 No, I completely agree.

01:04:36.000 I want to know how you came to that conclusion.

01:04:40.000 And oftentimes you can find, especially if you particularly disagree with something someone says and you've thought your side through and you talk to someone with an open mind, you can actually find the holes in their logic and it'll help you understand maybe you've got some holes in your own logic and you're not aware of them.

01:04:56.000 And everyone has their own experiences they're drawing from to help them come up with their way of thinking.

01:05:01.000 I know.

01:05:01.000 And I definitely, in exploring all those topics, found just what you're saying.

01:05:05.000 I found, like, the part of the gun argument that I really fully wrapped my brain and my heart around, the pro-gun, the Second Amendment, right?

01:05:12.000 I mean, I'm still not, like, a wildly pro-gun guy, but I totally, 100% had this...

01:05:17.000 I think?

01:05:40.000 When you condemn a gun owner, you, the liberal thinker, is going, oh, I'm condemning guns, I'm condemning violence.

01:05:47.000 And what you don't understand is you're condemning a person, what they're hearing is you're calling them, their identity, the thing that makes them passionate. 0.99

01:05:56.000 Illegitimate stupid and based in ignorance and violence and of course a person's gonna react and go go fuck yourself I'll never listen to your argument if you start your argument by basically telling them their whole lifestyle is bullshit Yeah, there's a real problem with the the gun ownership argument and one of the big problems is the mass shootings right everybody Condemns mass shootings. 1.00

01:06:17.000 They're horrible. 1.00

01:06:17.000 They're terrifying and they only happen with most of the time with people's guns and I mean, we've had some situations recently in Europe where people are driving over people with cars, and there's a lot of insane shit that's going on over there with that, and then people have been stabbing people in some places. 1.00

01:06:31.000 But for the most part, it's guns, right? 0.93

01:06:33.000 But my thought on it is always that it's a mental health issue.

01:06:37.000 There are more guns in this country than there are people.

01:06:39.000 So if you have 300 million guns and every once a year or so one of these things happens and you have this mass shooting, this horrible tragedy, one of the most constant things is mental illness.

01:06:51.000 Almost all those people are either on psychoactive medicine, Either they're on some sort of a anti-psychotic or an anti-depressant or they're coming off of it.

01:07:00.000 They have a history of psychiatric treatment, a history of illness, of mental illness.

01:07:05.000 It's a hundred percent.

01:07:06.000 It's almost a hundred percent of people that are like severely mentally ill. 0.74

01:07:10.000 We have horrible standards for mental illness in this country, for people just being roaming around the street. 0.67

01:07:15.000 And a lot of that came from Reagan.

01:07:17.000 When Reagan let those people...

01:07:19.000 California.

01:07:19.000 Yes.

01:07:20.000 When they let those people loose, that means people need fucking treatment. 1.00

01:07:23.000 They need help. 1.00

01:07:24.000 It's a lot of them.

01:07:25.000 It's a lot of people that are on disassociatives.

01:07:27.000 They're on all these anti-psychotic medication. 1.00

01:07:30.000 They're fucked up, man. 1.00

01:07:32.000 Like, they have real issues. 1.00

01:07:32.000 And then they can get a hold of guns. 1.00

01:07:34.000 I agree with you.

01:07:35.000 But I also think there's a flaw in that logic because the mass shootings didn't start commensurate with the shutting down of the mental health system.

01:07:45.000 When did they?

01:07:46.000 They seemed to me to be a more...

01:07:48.000 I mean, Kent State obviously was the original...

01:07:51.000 No, Kent State was the National Guard.

01:07:53.000 I'm sorry, what was the one in the tower in...

01:07:55.000 Austin.

01:07:55.000 I'm sorry, yeah, in Texas.

01:07:56.000 Kent State's in Ohio.

01:07:57.000 Excuse me, yeah, that.

01:07:58.000 That was like the first, right, the first big one.

01:08:01.000 But the modern phenomenon of the mass shooting is a fairly modern one.

01:08:06.000 It feels like the last 20, 10, 20 years, right? 0.95

01:08:07.000 But you know that that guy in the tower was mentally ill. 0.95

01:08:10.000 Right. 0.95

01:08:10.000 Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you at all that mental illness is a huge part of the pie. 0.95

01:08:14.000 You're saying the Reagan thing.

01:08:16.000 I'm not saying the Reagan thing is 100% the reason for it, but it's a big part of why there are so many mentally ill people that were released in that time.

01:08:23.000 I mean, I can remember it when I was a kid because my dad was talking about it.

01:08:26.000 He was like, it's crazy.

01:08:27.000 There's like so many more homeless people now.

01:08:28.000 And they're talking to themselves. 1.00

01:08:30.000 They're all fucked up. 1.00

01:08:31.000 We just abandon these human beings because their brains aren't working right. 1.00

01:08:34.000 The idea was that Reagan shut down all the mental health facilities in California.

01:08:38.000 And the idea was that they would be replaced by community centers where each community, each neighborhood would have like a check-in center.

01:08:45.000 And the check-in centers, of course, were never built.

01:08:48.000 So the people just hit the streets.

01:08:49.000 That was California?

01:08:51.000 I thought it was when Reagan was president.

01:08:52.000 It changed the standards nationally.

01:08:55.000 I could be wrong.

01:08:56.000 Yeah, I think it was when he was president.

01:08:57.000 I might be wrong.

01:08:58.000 It's all dark, man.

01:08:59.000 And they never made the check-in places?

01:09:01.000 They just didn't exist.

01:09:02.000 I mean, the only thing I was saying, though, was that...

01:09:05.000 There's something else happening in America that almost feels mystical or spiritual when it comes to mass shootings. 0.96

01:09:12.000 Because there are other countries with mentally ill people that have access to guns.

01:09:17.000 And maybe it's that we have a lesser standard of care for our mentally ill, but Canada also has people babbling on the streets, although they have limited access to guns.

01:09:28.000 There's something else going on, it feels like to me, and this is totally anecdotal and just my opinion.

01:09:33.000 But it feels like to me there's some thing that we don't understand that it is of course mental illness and it is of course access to guns and there's some third thing that people don't really can't put your finger on which is like why is this happening here?

01:09:45.000 Why is it happening so much here?

01:09:47.000 Well it could be related to overpopulation.

01:09:50.000 It could be related to the sort of established mindset of the American people.

01:09:55.000 Like why are Canadians so much nicer when they're connected to us? 0.89

01:09:59.000 Like you just like if you look at the landmass there's No real line, but you go across that.

01:10:04.000 Culturally.

01:10:05.000 Yeah, they're way nicer.

01:10:06.000 They're just nicer.

01:10:07.000 You know, and they talk like us, they look like us, they pronounce a few words differently, and they're way nicer.

01:10:14.000 You know, and they don't get a lot of mass shootings up there.

01:10:16.000 It's super uncommon.

01:10:17.000 It's interesting.

01:10:18.000 I mean, it's based on this.

01:10:19.000 I think it's about the connection of America to its guns is based on its foundation mythology.

01:10:25.000 It's religion in a weird way, right?

01:10:27.000 The religion of America, the greatest country on earth.

01:10:30.000 Why?

01:10:30.000 A lot of it's based on fear.

01:10:32.000 I mean, it's freedom for sure, but a lot of the tactical people, like the people that are really into, what happens if somebody breaks in?

01:10:40.000 You've got to be ready.

01:10:40.000 You've got to pull that gun out in 2.2 seconds.

01:10:42.000 You've got to be able to ching, ching, ching, shoot those targets. 0.59

01:10:44.000 I mean, there's people that practice. 1.00

01:10:45.000 I know people, good friends, that practice that shit all the time. 1.00

01:10:49.000 And if you break into their house, you are fucked because they're ready and they're looking for it. 1.00

01:10:54.000 They want people to break. 1.00

01:10:55.000 I know people who are asking people, please break into my fucking house. 0.99

01:10:59.000 I took Natasha to shoot guns in anticipation of this gun episode that we did on the show. 0.99

01:11:03.000 I hated it so much.

01:11:05.000 I can't say I loved it either.

01:11:06.000 Well, I got there and I thought I'd make a joke because you have to pick your little target.

01:11:09.000 So I was like, are there any Trump?

01:11:11.000 And he was like... 0.99

01:11:12.000 I'm nudging her like, Natasha, shut up! 1.00

01:11:15.000 We are not in the right area. 0.53

01:11:17.000 And he's like, we got the Hillarys coming in next week. 0.97

01:11:20.000 They're going to have real Hillarys that you can shoot? 1.00

01:11:22.000 That seems fucked up. 1.00

01:11:23.000 I think he was just talking shit to her for asking the Trump question. 1.00

01:11:25.000 Maybe. 1.00

01:11:26.000 But it was rough.

01:11:27.000 Did he talk with a southern accent?

01:11:28.000 No, this is in L.A. That's how I heard it.

01:11:32.000 I just decided to give him a twang.

01:11:33.000 And then we get in there, and there's people just doing magazine rifles, and then there's a guy going through saying...

01:11:39.000 What was he saying?

01:11:41.000 No rapid fire!

01:11:42.000 No rapid fire!

01:11:43.000 Because they're just like...

01:11:44.000 Just like these kids.

01:11:46.000 It was pretty crazy.

01:11:47.000 Like, there weren't even dividers in between us.

01:11:49.000 Oh, and then he was telling me how to work the gun, and I was like, he's like, make sure that your thumb doesn't go here.

01:11:54.000 Okay, go ahead.

01:11:54.000 And I was like, wait, wait, where is my thumb not supposed to go?

01:11:57.000 Can I, will you please shh?

01:11:58.000 Because I know he didn't know.

01:11:59.000 Moshe didn't know either.

01:12:00.000 Oh, you gotta laugh and point at me.

01:12:02.000 I was like, can you just show us?

01:12:05.000 This is a little poof over here. 0.99

01:12:06.000 You got scared, too.

01:12:07.000 We did it once.

01:12:07.000 No, I didn't.

01:12:08.000 No, I did, though.

01:12:09.000 We each did what?

01:12:10.000 We got like 50 rounds.

01:12:12.000 Yeah, we bought two.

01:12:13.000 Because you have to buy the ammunition in like a box.

01:12:16.000 You can't buy like, oh, I'll have.

01:12:18.000 So we bought two boxes thinking we'd be there for a while.

01:12:21.000 The training session was literally.

01:12:23.000 Two seconds.

01:12:24.000 30 seconds long.

01:12:25.000 Put your hand here.

01:12:27.000 Okay, here's your gun. 1.00

01:12:28.000 Go shoot. 0.99

01:12:28.000 And people are rapid firing. 0.99

01:12:30.000 And you're surrounded by other people that got that same safety briefing, right?

01:12:32.000 Right.

01:12:33.000 And there's a celebrity wall.

01:12:35.000 One celebrity, Shia LaBeouf.

01:12:38.000 This is not what you want, right?

01:12:39.000 This is not what you want to see.

01:12:41.000 That's a weird one, too, right?

01:12:42.000 Yes, that's what I'm saying.

01:12:44.000 He might have lied about being there.

01:12:46.000 No, it was a picture of him there. 0.74

01:12:47.000 So I shot the gun, and she shot it, and then I shot it again, and I'm feeling like, I gotta get out of here.

01:12:52.000 Really?

01:12:53.000 And Natasha's like, I gotta get out of here.

01:12:54.000 I just think it was a bad...

01:12:55.000 I think every gun advocate or strong gun person we've talked to since...

01:13:00.000 Said about that particular place like that's not a place to start. 0.96

01:13:03.000 It's not a cool place It's unsafe and so we just so I think we picked the wrong place at any rate though I'm thinking about these two boxes of ammunition I'm like I can't go to the dude up front because he'll think you know I'm like a little bitch, you know what I mean? 0.86

01:13:16.000 I got all this ammo left, you know what I mean? 1.00

01:13:18.000 So and then she's like Natasha's like don't be an idiot. 1.00

01:13:21.000 Let's get out of here. 1.00

01:13:22.000 So I So I walk up to the front and I swear, I sold her out immediately.

01:13:27.000 I'm just like, you know, I love it here.

01:13:30.000 You know, this is my home, baby.

01:13:32.000 I like how you go black with that. 0.96

01:13:34.000 You didn't say this was my home. 1.00

01:13:36.000 You go southern if you want to do an idiot. 1.00

01:13:38.000 You go black to get tough with the guys. 1.00

01:13:41.000 I'm like the wife, you know what I mean? 0.98

01:13:42.000 The wife is like, let's get out of here. 1.00

01:13:44.000 You know how women are, right? 1.00

01:13:45.000 Bitches be hating on guns. 1.00

01:13:47.000 I want to stay. 1.00

01:13:48.000 I want to stay.

01:13:50.000 But I can't.

01:13:51.000 I gotta admit.

01:13:52.000 I'm like...

01:13:53.000 You did say the wife.

01:13:54.000 I did.

01:13:54.000 The wife is, you know, I'm all like emotional from having shot a gun.

01:13:58.000 Like, I got to get out of here.

01:13:59.000 But really, I'm just like, you know, you know how it is.

01:14:01.000 You want to shoot all night, but no wife. 1.00

01:14:03.000 Now I'm going Italian.

01:14:05.000 The first time I ever shot one, the first thing I felt when I went into the area where you put the earplugs on and you stand next to these people, and there was these little dividers in the place that I went.

01:14:15.000 But when you hear the doom!

01:14:17.000 You feel so vulnerable.

01:14:20.000 You feel like, whoa, if that hits you, that's a wrap.

01:14:23.000 You are not going to make it.

01:14:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:14:26.000 I've got to ask you guys this before you take off.

01:14:28.000 Did you see this Trump thing, the CNN thing?

01:14:30.000 Where they're going after the kid who made the meme?

01:14:33.000 I heard it wasn't a kid.

01:14:34.000 Well, this is the thing.

01:14:36.000 Jamie will explain the whole thing.

01:14:37.000 But it was a kid that they went after who had made a video or made a meme.

01:14:44.000 But apparently the meme came from a video, and the video was made by someone else other than this kid.

01:14:49.000 And they're essentially threatened to dox this kid.

01:14:53.000 They said they reserved the right to expose him.

01:14:57.000 And I heard he's 15. I don't know if that's been 100% proven.

01:15:01.000 I don't know if it's been 100% disproven, but I just heard that that is a lie.

01:15:05.000 It was a lie.

01:15:06.000 The 15-year-old-ness of this kid.

01:15:08.000 Well, I don't know if that's the case because he's not actually 15 or it's because now they're talking about a different person who created the original video that was turned into an animated GIF file.

01:15:17.000 Which one?

01:15:18.000 Of the Trump body-slamming the CNN. Oh, they're saying that that's fine.

01:15:22.000 It's Trump.

01:15:22.000 This is what it is.

01:15:23.000 Trump was on the WWE and he did a thing where he slammed the guy to the ground and so they took that and put a CNN head over the person's body who Trump slammed to the ground and then Trump tweeted it. 0.97

01:15:35.000 By the way, very offensive, very inappropriate, very non-presidential, pretty fucking funny.

01:15:42.000 Okay, but that's nothing compared to him talking about that woman having plastic surgery and saying that her face was bleeding badly from a facelift. 0.99

01:15:50.000 That's just gross.

01:15:52.000 There's something wrong with him. 0.91

01:15:54.000 That's so beneath anybody.

01:15:55.000 That's not just beneath the president.

01:15:58.000 That's beneath anybody I would talk to.

01:16:00.000 There's something deeply wrong with him.

01:16:02.000 He's getting worse.

01:16:03.000 He's going off.

01:16:04.000 He's on tilt right now.

01:16:06.000 Pressure.

01:16:06.000 Probably getting mentally ill at this point.

01:16:09.000 And he's old. 0.99

01:16:10.000 Isn't mental illness like your brain chemistry changing? 0.95

01:16:13.000 And can you imagine what would... 0.92

01:16:14.000 By the way, when the alt-right came after me for the show, I had this other realization, which is even people you don't respect...

01:16:22.000 If enough people hate you, it's got an effect on your brain. 1.00

01:16:28.000 And imagine being Donald Trump where half the world or more is like, fuck you all day, every day. 1.00

01:16:35.000 Definitely more than half the world. 1.00

01:16:36.000 It's a large number of people, even in the Republican Party.

01:16:40.000 But it's way more than half of America now.

01:16:43.000 There's a large number of people in the Republican Party that are criticizing it.

01:16:47.000 You know what makes me mad is that we called it the Women's March and that no one really gives it respect for what it was because it was the largest protest in our history of our lives was basically an anti-Trump protest.

01:16:59.000 Like when that guy was elected and like...

01:17:02.000 We should just be talking about that more.

01:17:03.000 Like, that's never happened in our lifetimes or our parents' lifetimes.

01:17:07.000 Right.

01:17:07.000 That there was that big of a protest because someone was being elected.

01:17:10.000 And it just kind of gets, like, pushed to the side.

01:17:13.000 Post-election.

01:17:13.000 I mean, I'm glad it's called the Women's March, but it's just like...

01:17:16.000 But she thinks, basically, that the idea of it was marginalized and the scope of it was marginalized because they called themselves the Women's March.

01:17:22.000 Maybe.

01:17:23.000 I don't know, because it's such a huge deal.

01:17:25.000 Like, I mean, it was so exciting to be a part of that.

01:17:27.000 And you saw those pictures.

01:17:28.000 And they weren't just in every city in America.

01:17:30.000 They were in every city in the world.

01:17:33.000 That's how opposed we were.

01:17:34.000 That didn't happen when, you know, anyone who in our lifetimes has become president.

01:17:38.000 No, we've never seen this kind of a reaction to a president before, ever.

01:17:40.000 Never.

01:17:40.000 But you wanted to talk about the CNN of it all.

01:17:42.000 Yeah, but what's crazy is that CNN is becoming a monster to fight a monster.

01:17:46.000 Right.

01:17:47.000 And they're threatening to dox people that are making funny memes.

01:17:51.000 All that was was funny.

01:17:52.000 I mean, nobody really thought that Donald Trump was actually slamming the person that is CNN, that doesn't even have a head, that has a CNN for a head.

01:18:00.000 CNN is...

01:18:01.000 Suing?

01:18:02.000 Some reporter from CNN was going after the person. 0.87

01:18:05.000 They tracked the person down on Reddit who made the memes. 0.98

01:18:08.000 Who gives a fuck who made the memes? 0.98

01:18:09.000 That's what's crazy. 0.95

01:18:10.000 By the way, the meme itself isn't offensive.

01:18:12.000 The meme itself is funny.

01:18:13.000 The offensive part, if anything, is that the President of the United States thought it was appropriate to retweet it. 0.99

01:18:18.000 It's more dumb than it is offensive. 0.97

01:18:19.000 It didn't offend me even slightly. 0.99

01:18:21.000 I saw him that he retweeted.

01:18:23.000 I was like, huh.

01:18:23.000 That's my reaction.

01:18:24.000 Huh.

01:18:24.000 Listen, you are correct, in my opinion, that CNN in particular and the press in general is as filled with warts, not as filled with warts, but is filled with warts in the same way that they're used to do.

01:18:37.000 As your five pound dick? 1.00

01:18:40.000 Ew, dude. 1.00

01:18:42.000 Ew, dude.

01:18:43.000 It was the right joke to make.

01:18:44.000 Sorry.

01:18:44.000 Joe, that was the right joke to make at the right time.

01:18:46.000 I didn't mean it.

01:18:48.000 Natasha, I'm so sorry that you're there.

01:18:50.000 If you weren't there, we would have had such a laugh over this.

01:18:53.000 We gotta sand them off before I see the missus. 1.00

01:18:57.000 But it's not that.

01:18:59.000 It's this new realm that we're in where these cable networks are struggling so hard to get attention and they're focusing on really crazy shit like CNN had a bunch of people fired for making up fake stories about Russia and Trump or not substantiating these stories and making sure they're correct before they released it and put it live and so three people had to resign.

01:19:21.000 I think it was three. 0.93

01:19:21.000 But CNN's not struggling. 0.93

01:19:23.000 That's what's interesting.

01:19:24.000 But they are.

01:19:24.000 They're struggling.

01:19:25.000 They're down 20% in ratings.

01:19:26.000 I thought CNN, MSNBC, and some other left-leaning thing, although I don't really consider CNN left-leaning, is like at the top of the charts now. 0.96

01:19:37.000 What I read, and it might be bullshit, I don't know. 0.69

01:19:39.000 Let's pull this up, see if you can find out. 0.88

01:19:41.000 What I read was that CNN is down 20% since June, and that Fox is actually up 20%.

01:19:48.000 No?

01:19:48.000 No.

01:19:48.000 It's like typed in CNN ratings.

01:19:51.000 It says Trump is way off on CNN's ratings being down.

01:19:54.000 Oh, so Trump said...

01:19:55.000 No, no, no.

01:19:55.000 I didn't hear it from Trump.

01:19:57.000 I heard it from someone else.

01:19:58.000 It was probably parroting Trump.

01:19:59.000 I mean, we're all...

01:20:00.000 Therein lies the problem.

01:20:02.000 We're all being pumped, filled with misinformation from both sides.

01:20:05.000 And each side is so ideologically in their echo chamber that they all accept, the left and the right included, all accept the information that they're getting as gospel truth that cannot be assailed by the other side's facts.

01:20:18.000 And so nobody even knows what the truth is anymore.

01:20:21.000 Nobody knows what the argument is.

01:20:23.000 People think if they read it, it's true.

01:20:24.000 Oh, so Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC. So Trump is responsible for everybody paying attention now.

01:20:30.000 Driven by surges for The Rachel Maddow Show.

01:20:32.000 Last word with Lawrence O'Donnell.

01:20:34.000 I have no idea who that is.

01:20:35.000 MSNBC is up a whopping 86% in total viewers.

01:20:39.000 Wow, in primetime.

01:20:40.000 That's amazing.

01:20:40.000 Do you watch Rachel Maddow?

01:20:42.000 No.

01:20:43.000 I think she's great. 0.99

01:20:44.000 She's a beast. 1.00

01:20:44.000 She's so good. 1.00

01:20:46.000 You know who else is good?

01:20:47.000 Tucker Carlson.

01:20:48.000 Just kidding.

01:20:49.000 He's a well-dressed guy with a great haircut and a good vibe.

01:20:51.000 You know what he is, though?

01:20:53.000 What he is is this odd bridge between reasonable people and right-wing maniacs.

01:20:57.000 You think he's a bridge between reasonable people?

01:21:00.000 Oh, for sure.

01:21:01.000 Compared to Sean Hannity?

01:21:03.000 Yes.

01:21:03.000 So much more reasonable than Hannity.

01:21:05.000 He's just a dick, though. 1.00

01:21:06.000 That's the problem. 1.00

01:21:07.000 Tucker? 1.00

01:21:07.000 He's an asshole to the people he interviews. 1.00

01:21:10.000 His whole thing is that he bombards them with kind of snide interviewing, relentless snide interviewing until they make a mistake. 1.00

01:21:18.000 You don't think some of them deserve it?

01:21:19.000 Of course some of them. 1.00

01:21:19.000 He brings out some preposterous people just because he knows that they're going to say something stupid that he can mock. 1.00

01:21:24.000 Exactly. 0.99

01:21:25.000 Well, there's this idea called nutpicking, and Natasha's got to go, right?

01:21:28.000 I'll take an Uber and you can stay.

01:21:30.000 No, no.

01:21:30.000 Well, I'm...

01:21:31.000 That's totally fine.

01:21:32.000 This is a weird little moment in your relationship.

01:21:35.000 No, because...

01:21:35.000 I'm here for this.

01:21:36.000 I'm sorry.

01:21:36.000 I had the whole day, like, just by the hour, you know?

01:21:40.000 And I have to be in Hollywood.

01:21:42.000 It's for...

01:21:43.000 I get it.

01:21:44.000 It's something I'm doing.

01:21:45.000 Like, I'm...

01:21:46.000 It's a voiceover, but...

01:21:47.000 We could bring this home.

01:21:49.000 Tom Cruise.

01:21:50.000 Whoa.

01:21:51.000 It's not Tom Cruise.

01:21:52.000 She's meeting Tom Cruise.

01:21:52.000 It's a Scientology promo film.

01:21:54.000 I'm sorry.

01:21:54.000 It's just I have, like, partners who are waiting for me, and if I don't get there, write it for...

01:21:58.000 Wait a minute.

01:21:59.000 Huh.

01:21:59.000 For...

01:22:01.000 It's so boring to explain.

01:22:03.000 It's an ADR session that I'm hosting with people from my show another period.

01:22:07.000 And it's in Hollywood at four, so I have to go.

01:22:09.000 I'm sorry.

01:22:10.000 No worries.

01:22:10.000 But I had a great time.

01:22:11.000 I had a great time as well.

01:22:12.000 I think we learned a lot about each other.

01:22:15.000 And the important thing is you guys have an awesome tour that's going on.

01:22:18.000 Oh yeah, we do.

01:22:19.000 When does it kick off?

01:22:19.000 Tell everybody.

01:22:20.000 July 19th, we will be in New Orleans, Louisiana.

01:22:23.000 Honeymoon tour.

01:22:24.000 My dad always says knowledge.

01:22:25.000 The honeymoon tour, and then we're going to Atlanta, Miami, Montreal, Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Milwaukee, and Minneapolis.

01:22:32.000 Brooklyn, baby!

01:22:33.000 Yeah, we'll be in Brooklyn.

01:22:34.000 MotionCash.com, NatashaLogero.com.

01:22:36.000 We'd love to see you.

01:22:37.000 But I do a set.

01:22:38.000 He does a set.

01:22:38.000 Sometimes, you know, we switch the order, and then at the end, we both come out, and we've been giving people love advice.

01:22:42.000 Yeah, we do live relationship counseling.

01:22:45.000 It's been really fun, and we've, like, helped some marriages, I feel like.

01:22:48.000 Probably not.

01:22:49.000 I feel like you haven't.

01:22:50.000 Why do you feel like we haven't?

01:22:53.000 It's a funny thing to say right there. 1.00

01:22:55.000 Five pound dick filled with warts, baby. 1.00

01:22:57.000 Do they give them a microphone and they ask questions to you? 1.00

01:23:00.000 Well, they come up on stage.

01:23:01.000 Oh, wow. 0.95

01:23:02.000 What if they're crazy? 0.92

01:23:03.000 Some of them have been.

01:23:05.000 One time, we've helped some people in the most minor ways.

01:23:08.000 Somebody's like, the cat likes to sleep on the bed.

01:23:12.000 And we go, well, why don't you once a week put a blanket down, let the cat sleep.

01:23:15.000 One guy was like, well, I think we have problems because I wasn't touched by my parents at any point until I was like nine years old.

01:23:22.000 And we were like, You're not qualified.

01:23:26.000 Obviously, I would love to stay here and talk all day.

01:23:28.000 Or at least for another hour.

01:23:30.000 Listen, we can do it another time.

01:23:31.000 You could do a solo podcast after we leave for another 45 minutes.

01:23:34.000 Don't worry about it.

01:23:34.000 We'll be fine.

01:23:35.000 There's plenty of entertainment out there for these folks.

01:23:37.000 Oh, you want me to stay?

01:23:39.000 Whatever you want.

01:23:40.000 But I gotta call it Uber now.

01:23:41.000 Alright, we can wrap it up.

01:23:42.000 I think you should take...

01:23:43.000 Whatever you want, Joe.

01:23:44.000 You decide.

01:23:45.000 We'll wrap this up.

01:23:46.000 We'll wrap this up.

01:23:47.000 Natasha Legero and Moshe Kasher, ladies and gentlemen.

01:23:50.000 Have you ever had a more awkward ending to a podcast?

01:23:52.000 No, it's perfect.

01:23:53.000 I love it.

01:23:53.000 This isn't awkward.

01:23:54.000 It wasn't awkward at all.

01:23:55.000 She's angry.

01:23:55.000 This isn't awkward!

01:23:57.000 I can't wait to hear your conversation in the car.

01:23:59.000 You guys should do like...

01:24:01.000 This is gonna be a good point.

01:24:02.000 Live stream.

01:24:03.000 You can tell a lot about a man how he does an impression of women.

01:24:06.000 Nah, nah, nah.

01:24:08.000 What?

01:24:09.000 You mean accurate?

01:24:10.000 That's not accurate.

01:24:11.000 Whether or not someone's a good mimic?

01:24:12.000 And then Dice always makes them like, oh! 1.00

01:24:15.000 No, he's like, oh, can I please to suck your balls? 1.00

01:24:19.000 Like, he makes them seem like... 1.00

01:24:21.000 And then other guys always make them seem like gay, like, oh, well, you must know.

01:24:27.000 Well, Natasha, I'm not making fun of all women. 0.96

01:24:29.000 I'm just making fun of you.

01:24:31.000 No, no, because I don't sound like that.

01:24:34.000 Oh, my God!

01:24:35.000 I don't sound like that!

01:24:36.000 Listen to yourself!

01:24:37.000 I hate sports!

01:24:38.000 My impression of women goes like this. 0.99

01:24:39.000 Hi, I'm Alonzo Bowden.

01:24:41.000 Ladies and gentlemen. 1.00

01:24:43.000 My dick's the size of three fingers. 1.00

01:24:45.000 Alright, ladies and gentlemen. 1.00

01:24:46.000 Thanks, Joe.

01:24:46.000 We wrap this up.

01:24:47.000 Bye.

01:24:47.000 Thank you, guys.

01:24:48.000 Thank you for having us.

01:24:49.000 My pleasure.

01:24:49.000 Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 05, 2017

Joe Rogan Experience #983 - Natasha Leggero & Moshe Kasher

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