The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #143 with Sean Strickland

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00:00:12.000 What's up, John Strickland?

00:00:13.000 What's happening?

00:00:14.000 We made it happen.

00:00:15.000 I made it, bro.

00:00:16.000 What's up?

00:00:16.000 I'm finally pseudo-famous enough to be on the Rogan Podcast.

00:00:20.000 Let's go.

00:00:20.000 You're pretty famous after Saturday night.

00:00:22.000 Hey, how's your eye?

00:00:24.000 Still pretty red. 0.99

00:00:26.000 The guy was trying to fucking salute his Fuhrer, bro. 1.00

00:00:28.000 Fucking straight to the eye. 1.00

00:00:32.000 He's Russian. 1.00

00:00:33.000 He can't say that.

00:00:35.000 He only moved to Germany when he was 15. Well, fuck, I don't know, man. 1.00

00:00:38.000 Fucking life's weird, dude. 1.00

00:00:39.000 It's fucking, is he Muslim? 1.00

00:00:40.000 We all know how that goes. 1.00

00:00:42.000 Oh, fuck, I'm going to get canceled. 1.00

00:00:44.000 He's just joking. 1.00

00:00:46.000 Can't we just joke around, folks?

00:00:48.000 Isn't this America?

00:00:50.000 That was a great fight.

00:00:51.000 It was a really, really good fight.

00:00:52.000 And it was really interesting, too, because that guy is so used to blowing people out in the first round.

00:00:58.000 He came out so hard in that first round.

00:01:01.000 And it was very interesting.

00:01:03.000 You have a very interesting style.

00:01:05.000 There's no one like you.

00:01:06.000 Stand straight up.

00:01:07.000 Even the way you hold your hands is different than everybody else.

00:01:11.000 It's more like boxing.

00:01:12.000 I like to box.

00:01:13.000 Yeah, no, it's funny.

00:01:14.000 Like, when he was throwing kicks, he was kind of like giggling and laughing a couple times when he hit me in the teeth and once or twice knocked the wind out of me in my mind. 1.00

00:01:20.000 I'm like, you fucking pussy. 1.00

00:01:22.000 Like, you've ever been in a 25-minute fight before, sir? 1.00

00:01:25.000 Like, we'll see how this adds up.

00:01:28.000 Yeah, that's the thing, right?

00:01:29.000 It's like people need to understand that.

00:01:31.000 Like, that if you're sprinting in the beginning, you can't do that for very long.

00:01:37.000 Well, he broke quick.

00:01:38.000 I mean, he...

00:01:39.000 Three minutes in.

00:01:40.000 I was shocked how fast he broke.

00:01:42.000 And I'll tell you when I knew he broke.

00:01:44.000 After he took me down, there was a moment where he was on my back. 1.00

00:01:46.000 I'm like, fuck, this kind of sucks. 1.00

00:01:47.000 I was thinking, like, there was a moment, I'm like, oh, this kind of sucks. 1.00

00:01:49.000 Well, we know what to do. 0.88

00:01:51.000 Get to a hip, get your way up, break the hands.

00:01:54.000 But whenever I broke his grip and he let go, it was, like, soft.

00:01:57.000 It was, like, delicate.

00:01:58.000 Like, he broke, like, his, like, delicate.

00:01:59.000 I think I hit him. 0.99

00:02:01.000 At that moment, I was like, what the fuck, dude? 0.99

00:02:03.000 So he's saving energy. 0.99

00:02:04.000 He realized it was falling.

00:02:05.000 No, he quit.

00:02:05.000 It wasn't that he was saving.

00:02:06.000 He broke. 0.98

00:02:09.000 So when you're fighting you guys, wrestling's fucking hard. 0.99

00:02:12.000 Wrestling's fucking difficult. 0.97

00:02:14.000 And you have to make the juice worth the squeeze. 0.98

00:02:18.000 So if you take me down, and you're on my back, you gotta hold that position...

00:02:24.000 loose grip for as long as you can. 1.00

00:02:25.000 Maybe knee me in the back of the thigh, hit me in the head. 0.93

00:02:28.000 If you could hold me there for 30 seconds and do light damage, that's 30 seconds of a round you won. 0.93

00:02:33.000 And the fact that he didn't even attempt to do it, it was like, oh man, you're done. 0.99

00:02:38.000 You're fucking done. 0.90

00:02:39.000 I was watching it at home and I noticed like at the three minute mark, you know, there's a thing that you could tell, especially when you've seen so many fights, where you see a guy in the beginning and you see like how his body moves and then you see a diminishment. 0.99

00:02:53.000 And I saw, at three minutes, I saw the feet were heavier, the movement was different.

00:02:59.000 He still looked good, but I was like, oh, he's already feeling it three minutes in.

00:03:03.000 Well, you know, threw me off.

00:03:04.000 He fought my buddy Saadi Sai. 0.99

00:03:05.000 And, dude, Saadi Sai's a fucking savage. 0.99

00:03:07.000 Like, he's a PFL champ. 1.00

00:03:09.000 The fucking guy could strike. 0.99

00:03:10.000 And he wrestled hard against Saadi for, like, you know, hard three rounds. 1.00

00:03:14.000 So I went in there thinking, oh, this guy has, like, a tank.

00:03:17.000 I watched him wrestle with my friend.

00:03:19.000 Yeah, it was shocking, man.

00:03:21.000 But, you know...

00:03:21.000 Well, he's only had two UFC fights.

00:03:23.000 He had that one fight, was it in France?

00:03:25.000 Yeah, against, like, Dustin. 1.00

00:03:27.000 But Dustin's a fucking can, dude. 0.99

00:03:28.000 Like, he should not be in the UFC... Again, I like Dustin. 1.00

00:03:32.000 He's a fucking yogi, dude. 0.99

00:03:33.000 He does more yoga than training. 1.00

00:03:34.000 He came to Vegas.

00:03:35.000 I think I broke his nose in the first minute, and then he came to Extreme. 0.99

00:03:40.000 I pretty much told Chris Curtis, I'm like, Curtis, if you let Dustin walk out of this fucking round, I will respect you less as a man. 0.99

00:03:48.000 You know, like, you're not part of our fucking team. 0.99

00:03:51.000 Like, if you let him have any success with you, dude, like, I will respect you less as a man. 0.99

00:03:57.000 How did Dustin get in the UFC? So it's kind of, I don't know who he fought, but he picked up a guy, or a guy picked him up and slammed him and broke his shoulder.

00:04:07.000 So his hype train was fighting a guy who, like, doesn't belong here.

00:04:11.000 So the guy broke his shoulder in the slam?

00:04:14.000 Yeah, so now it's like, oh, Dustin slammed him or something happened, and then, like, that's how he got signed. 0.99

00:04:20.000 Yeah, Dustin's a fucking can. 1.00

00:04:21.000 You know, he's a fucking defector, bro. 1.00

00:04:23.000 He's an American living in Germany. 1.00

00:04:24.000 You can't respect that fucking guy. 1.00

00:04:25.000 Oh, how dare he. 1.00

00:04:26.000 You're a fucking defector, bro. 1.00

00:04:28.000 Sorry, Dustin. 1.00

00:04:29.000 I don't even know what country you represent, you motherfucker. 1.00

00:04:32.000 I do not agree with the things Mr. Tricklin is saying, Dustin. 0.99

00:04:36.000 But I do agree that there's something about those guys that are used to taking guys out in the first round.

00:04:44.000 There's something about those guys. 0.99

00:04:46.000 A lot of these daggy Muslim dudes, they're bullies, bro. 1.00

00:04:50.000 They're fucking like... 1.00

00:04:52.000 You know, that fucking Ali, that fucking cunt, the manager. 1.00

00:04:55.000 I mean, I'm probably going to rub some people the wrong way, but fuck him. 1.00

00:04:58.000 You know, I'm going to see him. 1.00

00:04:59.000 We're going to go fighting after I say that.

00:05:01.000 He's like, did you hear what Sean said about me? 1.00

00:05:02.000 I'm like, yeah, you're a fucking cunt, dude. 1.00

00:05:04.000 I like how he did the accent. 1.00

00:05:05.000 Yeah, he's a fucking cunt. 1.00

00:05:06.000 So, like, this fucking cunt, Ali, good thing. 1.00

00:05:09.000 I mean, I don't give a fuck. 1.00

00:05:10.000 He comes to the gym. 0.99

00:05:11.000 He watches me spar Marvin Vittori, right?

00:05:14.000 And then we spar Marvin Tori. 0.99

00:05:15.000 I don't give a fuck, dude. 0.99

00:05:16.000 Marvin's a friend of mine. 0.99

00:05:17.000 I'm trying to help him. 1.00

00:05:19.000 And then fucking three weeks later, you pull out this fucking guy to fight me. 1.00

00:05:24.000 And then you start betting a prayer that he's going to beat me. 1.00

00:05:27.000 Like, you fucking rat, dude. 1.00

00:05:29.000 You come watch me spar, and you pull this fucking guy out of your hat, and you go bet Alex he's going to beat me. 1.00

00:05:35.000 Isn't that standard, though? 0.99

00:05:38.000 I mean, I don't know, dude.

00:05:39.000 I don't think managers should be in the gym.

00:05:40.000 Interesting.

00:05:41.000 Yeah, interesting.

00:05:42.000 But don't you think they have to kind of get a bead on how guys look and what they're doing?

00:05:47.000 Yeah, but then it's rough, dude, when you watch me spar.

00:05:52.000 And then you're handling the guy.

00:05:53.000 And then you're handling a guy.

00:05:54.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:05:56.000 That's a rough one, dude.

00:05:57.000 Yeah, that's tricky.

00:05:59.000 Well, that's why, you know, like elite gyms have closed door sessions.

00:06:03.000 Yeah, as it should be. 0.99

00:06:04.000 You shouldn't fucking be able to go watch guys train. 0.98

00:06:06.000 And again, I always tell guys like my opponents, like, you want to come watch me train? 0.99

00:06:10.000 Come watch me train.

00:06:12.000 Bring your best sparring partner and come watch me train.

00:06:15.000 Well, your style is pretty much the same in every fight.

00:06:18.000 It's like a steady forward marching and you're just very good at energy conservation.

00:06:26.000 You're just very good at knowing when to sprint.

00:06:29.000 Well, I mean, like, three weeks prior to the fight, me and my other buddy named Robin Shafar, up-and-coming boxer. 0.98

00:06:34.000 Well, he's, you know, boxing is the most shady, shady business there is in the fucking world. 0.98

00:06:38.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:06:39.000 Makes UFC look like...

00:06:40.000 Like higher education.

00:06:43.000 Yeah, boxing, you guys, is corrupt.

00:06:45.000 So he's about 16-0.

00:06:46.000 And the guy could box, man.

00:06:48.000 I've seen him put work on UFC fighters.

00:06:50.000 Like, I've seen him spar, like...

00:06:52.000 Bellator champions.

00:06:53.000 The guy does work.

00:06:54.000 So we did like a no time limit, 40 minute boxing, just whoever quits.

00:06:57.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:06:58.000 Just because we're just bored, you know?

00:07:00.000 The CTE special. 1.00

00:07:01.000 Oh, fuck yeah, dude. 1.00

00:07:01.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:07:02.000 So it's kind of funny. 1.00

00:07:03.000 He was actually going through some like personal shit and he beat me. 0.98

00:07:06.000 He beat me that day. 0.99

00:07:07.000 But like I was hitting him.

00:07:08.000 I was like, dude, you just like, there's something like, there's something with you right now after we get done boxing for like 40, 45 minutes.

00:07:15.000 He starts telling me his personal issues. 0.99

00:07:17.000 I'm like, oh, fuck yeah, dude, you were ready to die today. 1.00

00:07:18.000 Like, that makes sense. 1.00

00:07:20.000 I feel...

00:07:20.000 I'm about to go for a hike with my girlfriend, bro.

00:07:22.000 You're contemplating fucking life here. 1.00

00:07:25.000 Yeah, yeah, you win, dude. 1.00

00:07:26.000 You fucking win. 0.99

00:07:27.000 That's like when Buster Douglas fought Tyson. 1.00

00:07:29.000 You know, Buster Douglas' mom died.

00:07:31.000 And Buster Douglas had always been, like, that really talented guy with a wicked jab who just didn't apply himself, like many really talented guys. 0.98

00:07:39.000 And then for that camp, he just went fucking full in.

00:07:42.000 Yeah, some guys, some guys, even when they have that, like... 1.00

00:07:45.000 I mean, fuck, even walking, even sometimes me when I walk out, like, I gotta tell myself, like, dude, you are a fucking loser. 1.00

00:07:51.000 Like, you are a fucking, you don't belong here. 1.00

00:07:54.000 Like, just go in there and kill this motherfucker. 1.00

00:07:56.000 You know, like, I always joked, I always had, like, I had a teacher tell me in, like, 70th grade, one of the few years I went to school, I think it was, like, her name was, like, Miss Wajda, I don't know, history or some shit. 1.00

00:08:09.000 She looked at me, she said, Sean... 0.88

00:08:11.000 You're the reason why they build prisons.

00:08:13.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:08:15.000 You're a little kid.

00:08:16.000 Can you imagine that? 1.00

00:08:17.000 Nah, dude, but she fucking nailed the fucking head, dude. 1.00

00:08:21.000 Like, I was a fucking shitbag, you know? 1.00

00:08:23.000 Right. 1.00

00:08:24.000 But shitbags can grow up and become actual men. 0.98

00:08:27.000 It's totally possible to dismiss a kid at that early an age. 0.98

00:08:31.000 No, dude, but life is strange, man. 0.99

00:08:34.000 Like, they do very good at isolating shitty people. 0.91

00:08:38.000 So, I mean, like, when I was in elementary school, I was homeschooled in, like, third, fourth grade. 0.94

00:08:43.000 Until, like, you know, seventh grade, I went back to school.

00:08:48.000 And then they spotted me right at the back.

00:08:50.000 Like, oh, this guy's a problem. 1.00

00:08:51.000 He's a shitbag. 1.00

00:08:52.000 Like, and so they isolate you. 0.99

00:08:54.000 They put you in, like, a school where you start two hours later and you end an hour early because they got to isolate you. 1.00

00:09:00.000 High school, same shit. 1.00

00:09:01.000 Went to a continuation school. 1.00

00:09:02.000 So society, like, they do well at saying, hey, this kid is going to be a problem.

00:09:06.000 We just got to, like, he's, like, cancer.

00:09:08.000 We just can't let him infect other people. 0.99

00:09:10.000 Let's fucking put him away. 0.99

00:09:12.000 And then you go, and then you get older and you just go to jail. 1.00

00:09:14.000 Same shit. 0.99

00:09:15.000 But it's funny that those kids, a lot of those kids, they can do things. 1.00

00:09:19.000 They just need a direction.

00:09:21.000 They need something.

00:09:22.000 And martial arts is the best thing for those kids.

00:09:24.000 Every one of them.

00:09:25.000 When people say, what's the best thing about bullies?

00:09:27.000 Or best thing, rather, to deal with bullies.

00:09:29.000 I'm like, teach them how to fight.

00:09:31.000 You teach bullies how to fight, they're not going to want to be beating people up.

00:09:35.000 If you teach them how to train with real people, they're not going to be doing that.

00:09:38.000 Man, I always say MMA. Even soldiers with PTSD, I have a little bit growing up.

00:09:44.000 I didn't even know what the fuck... 0.99

00:09:45.000 I always thought... 0.99

00:09:46.000 It sounds fucked up, but I've always... 1.00

00:09:49.000 When you hear, like, soldiers talking about PTSD, I'm like, you fucking pussies. 1.00

00:09:53.000 Like, this is how I was when I was a kid. 1.00

00:09:55.000 Right.

00:09:55.000 Like, well, you know, at 20 years old, like, you know, I can't go in public or I can't sleep at night.

00:10:01.000 I'm like, what the fuck's wrong with you, fucking pussy? 1.00

00:10:04.000 Like, give me a gun. 1.00

00:10:04.000 I'll fucking shoot some in the fucking head right now. 1.00

00:10:06.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

00:10:07.000 But then I realized that, like, me, I grew up so fucked up that... 1.00

00:10:16.000 Right. 1.00

00:10:19.000 fuck the high school prom queen going to parties. 1.00

00:10:22.000 And all of a sudden you turn 24 and then like the veil was lifted and you're like, who the fuck am I? 1.00

00:10:26.000 So like once I kind of realized that I had a lot more respect for him, but you know what I was going with that is like training, man. 1.00

00:10:32.000 If you guys, if you guys have some fucked up issues, some demons, man, like train, And a lot of people that train are fucked up. 0.90

00:10:38.000 So it's like you have this good, like, brother-ship, this bond. 0.99

00:10:41.000 Yes, yes. 0.97

00:10:42.000 Yeah, it's fucking did me wonders. 0.97

00:10:44.000 Oh, man, me too. 0.96

00:10:45.000 So many people I know, too.

00:10:47.000 There's so many, like, lost people who are some of the most exceptional people that I know because they went through that.

00:10:52.000 I remember the first time in my life that I ever felt happiness.

00:10:56.000 Like, even when I think about it, it makes my eyes water. 1.00

00:10:58.000 I was, like, 14 years old, you know, I was just a fucking fuck-up loser, man. 0.99

00:11:04.000 And my mom brought me to an MMA gym and I got the shit kicked out of me. 1.00

00:11:07.000 Just fucking, like, got the bloody fucking nose. 1.00

00:11:11.000 You know Paul Herrera? 1.00

00:11:12.000 Yep.

00:11:12.000 So Paul Herrera used to have a gym, Empire MMA. The headhunter.

00:11:15.000 But he never trained.

00:11:18.000 Like, he was never there. 1.00

00:11:19.000 He was always in the business trying to fucking peddle, you know, fucking juice or something. 0.98

00:11:23.000 So it would just be me and, like, probably 14 to 21-year-old, we'd just be in the cage with four-ounce gloves fighting. 0.99

00:11:30.000 So, the first day I went there, I mean, fucking bloody nose. 0.98

00:11:32.000 I was thinking of Paul Bluntello. 0.98

00:11:34.000 Paul Herrera was the guy who fought Big Daddy Goodrich. 1.00

00:11:36.000 Yeah, he was a little fucking guy. 0.99

00:11:37.000 Yeah, the elbows. 1.00

00:11:38.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:11:39.000 With the fireman's carry? 1.00

00:11:40.000 Yeah, so, fucking, the first day I trained there, man, I mean, I got the shit kicked out. 1.00

00:11:43.000 I mean, I was so happy. 0.99

00:11:44.000 I remember walking out, like...

00:11:46.000 Wow, this is what it feels like to be happy. 0.79

00:11:48.000 Like, I've never fucking felt this, you know? 0.97

00:11:50.000 You got it all out of your body. 1.00

00:11:51.000 Yeah, and I was like, fuck, I'm addicted. 0.99

00:11:53.000 I mean, even going into that, dude, I was like 14, 15. I had like crazy racist views. 0.99

00:11:59.000 I mean, I was like a little fucking Hitler youth, which is funny. 1.00

00:12:02.000 I make fun of a boost, but like, let's shit you not, dude. 0.99

00:12:05.000 Like, I was like... 0.99

00:12:07.000 I was on a fucked up path. 0.97

00:12:08.000 Even like, you know, I always like wearing white shirts and boots and jeans. 0.97

00:12:13.000 I stopped wearing this.

00:12:15.000 I used to wear this.

00:12:15.000 This is all I wore when I was a kid.

00:12:17.000 But I stopped wearing it once I started training because I thought it looked too much like a white supremacist. 0.99

00:12:23.000 So I was like, I can't wear this shit anymore. 1.00

00:12:24.000 A white shirt? 1.00

00:12:25.000 Well, because you wear your white shirt, your boot.

00:12:27.000 You ever seen American History X? Oh, okay.

00:12:29.000 So it's like the standard, you look like a white supremacist. 1.00

00:12:33.000 And I loved that shit. 1.00

00:12:34.000 When I was a kid, I loved that shit. 1.00

00:12:35.000 That's how I wanted it. 1.00

00:12:36.000 I wanted to look like a piece of shit white supremacist. 1.00

00:12:39.000 So when I started training, I was like, oh, dude, you were lost. 1.00

00:12:42.000 That's not who you are.

00:12:43.000 That's not what you believe.

00:12:44.000 I went away from it. 0.96

00:12:46.000 I grew my hair out fucking super long, got the name Tarzan. 0.97

00:12:49.000 I didn't dress like that. 0.98

00:12:51.000 And now as an adult, I'm comfortable with who I am.

00:12:54.000 I'm not a racist.

00:12:55.000 I love everybody. 1.00

00:12:56.000 Now I can go back to my roots of being just a white trash motherfucker. 1.00

00:13:00.000 It's nice, man. 1.00

00:13:01.000 I've really accepted who I am, you know?

00:13:03.000 Well, it's so interesting to watch people go through these changes in life, in these trials through adversity, and become like...

00:13:11.000 A very interesting person at the end of it. 0.99

00:13:14.000 I know you say a lot of outrageous shit, and it's very funny, but you also say some very good shit. 0.99

00:13:20.000 This speech that you gave when you were talking about America, that speech, the post-fight press conference speech, It's a fucking great speech. 1.00

00:13:27.000 Well, you know what it is, man? 1.00

00:13:28.000 I am white trash. 0.98

00:13:30.000 Like, what I mean by that is, like, I am the future of America. 0.99

00:13:33.000 So, like, both my parents worked. 1.00

00:13:37.000 You know, my dad's piece of shit, but, you know, he's fucking in hell probably right now. 1.00

00:13:40.000 But both my parents worked. 1.00

00:13:42.000 They made good money, but we were poor. 0.98

00:13:44.000 We were poor because after the cigarettes, the bars, and the fast food, we were fucking poor. 0.98

00:13:48.000 I mean, like... 0.99

00:13:49.000 You know, we had like fucking, I can't tell you, you'd find a piece of paper and you wrinkled up, you used it as fucking toilet paper. 1.00

00:13:55.000 You know, every time I wipe my ass with a piece of fucking paper you get laying around. 1.00

00:14:02.000 But this is like, it's like this unholy alliance that corporations are doing to America. 1.00

00:14:08.000 They want women working, they want lower wages, and they want more consumerism. 0.99

00:14:14.000 And it's like, I don't mean it like, I'm not sexist, like, oh, put women back in the kitchen, you know, they suck. 1.00

00:14:19.000 No, I love fucking women, you know. 1.00

00:14:20.000 Take off the burka, wear a fucking bikini, and huzzah. 1.00

00:14:24.000 But... 1.00

00:14:25.000 But you know what I'm saying?

00:14:27.000 But we're truly in a weird time to where corporations are eroding values of America.

00:14:35.000 Well, they act within their best interests. 1.00

00:14:38.000 Their best interests is to keep people, consumers, and make sure that people just pay attention only to stupid shit. 1.00

00:14:47.000 You have Walmart in your phone now. 1.00

00:14:50.000 I mean, even me, I'm to blame.

00:14:52.000 There's some times, you guys, where I'm like, maybe I'm a little depressed, I don't know, in a bad mood.

00:14:56.000 I'm like, I'm going to go on Amazon. 0.92

00:14:58.000 Let's see what the fucking Amazon fairy is recommending me today. 1.00

00:15:00.000 Maybe I could find something that will give me a little serotonin boost. 0.99

00:15:04.000 Find some happiness in a one-click.

00:15:06.000 Yeah, and then on top of that, now we go full circle, you have two parents working, and I'm going mostly on the West Coast. 1.00

00:15:15.000 You have shitty fucking kids, dude. 1.00

00:15:18.000 Las Vegas, graduation rates less than 50%, high school dropout, no GED, I'm not one to talk. 1.00

00:15:24.000 But how do you raise a family, a successful family, when your kids are being raised by the system?

00:15:32.000 Right. 1.00

00:15:32.000 By fucking TikTok. 1.00

00:15:34.000 After my fight, I had the doctor, you know, good guy, the doctor at UFC. He comes up to me, he's like, hey, why are you talking bad about Las Vegas? 0.99

00:15:41.000 I'm like, well, Dr. John, whatever your name is, Dr. Equal Dude. 0.93

00:15:45.000 What school do your kids go to?

00:15:46.000 And he just, like, gets a big, like, smirk.

00:15:48.000 I'm like, yeah, I'm sure you're paying, like, 50 plus a year to educate your kids.

00:15:53.000 Right.

00:15:54.000 So again, man, where's the reset button?

00:15:56.000 Maybe there is no reset button.

00:15:58.000 I think the reset button is teaching people that there's things that you can do in life that can transform you.

00:16:04.000 And I think, as weird as that sounds, a lot of people learn that through watching people like you evolve through fighting.

00:16:11.000 Because it's the most difficult thing you can do outside of war, and being a cop, and being a fireman.

00:16:17.000 It's the most difficult physical pursuit that a person can get involved with for a living.

00:16:22.000 But again, we're talking on such a deeper fundamental level.

00:16:25.000 If you have no belief, like we could say America's becoming atheist.

00:16:29.000 Like we could say that.

00:16:30.000 If you have no belief, if you have no moral right, no wrong, and you're not taught this from like a stable family and you're being raised, I mean like literally America's becoming like communist China where like We're letting our school system dictate values and beliefs.

00:16:45.000 We're letting the system tell you what your kids are.

00:16:47.000 And again, I'm agnostic, so I'm not telling everybody to go find Jesus, you know? 0.99

00:16:51.000 If you're going to find somebody, just let it be fucking Jesus, right? 0.98

00:16:54.000 But, I mean, how do you fix a moral decay of a society when that's just where we're going? 0.99

00:17:02.000 You got TikTok, man. 1.00

00:17:03.000 Even fucking Communist China will mitigate what shows on TikTok, but they give us utter fucking filth. 1.00

00:17:10.000 But it's just, I know exactly what you're saying. 0.99

00:17:12.000 And, you know, I went through the public school system, but I did it in the 1980s.

00:17:16.000 That's very different.

00:17:17.000 It's getting worse.

00:17:17.000 Yeah, it's a lot worse now.

00:17:19.000 But, I mean, how do you, like, again, like, if you were, you know, if you were God Joe Rogan, how do you fix this?

00:17:23.000 You gotta pump a lot of money into inner cities.

00:17:27.000 You gotta figure out a way to make programs and there's places in this country that for decades and decades have been filled with crime.

00:17:39.000 Gang violence and drug addiction and that's all they know and that's that's the standard of their community And that's what you grow up with and that's what you see and if we don't fix that the odds of those people coming out of there I mean there's a few that come out of there that become you know whether they're artists or Athletes or whatever it is they find a way through they figure it out,

00:17:59.000 but they're the rare ones okay, they're the rare ones which we got to do is create Systems where you have opportunity for kids and also mitigate the crime and mitigate the violence and whatever the fuck has to be done.

00:18:13.000 Look, if they can dump billions of dollars into Ukraine, if they could dump billions of dollars into, I mean, there's so many different things that they pump money into, but they've never pumped any money into Baltimore.

00:18:25.000 They never pumped any money into Detroit.

00:18:27.000 Like, try to figure out a way, like, if you can, like, think about, like, what Halliburton did during the Iraq War. 0.98

00:18:33.000 They got these no-bid contracts where Cheney was the fucking CEO of Halbert, and he becomes the vice president of the United States, and then the company he worked for gets these no-bid contracts to rebuild shit we blow up. 0.93

00:18:46.000 Which is wild, but there's profit in that, right? 0.98

00:18:49.000 So what about figuring out a way to funnel that profit into fixing inner cities?

00:18:54.000 If we have less losers, we have a better America.

00:18:58.000 And if you give people more opportunity, you have less losers. 0.93

00:19:01.000 You know, so even let's go on the smallest scale of sex.

00:19:05.000 How old are you, Joe?

00:19:07.000 55. When was the first time you started watching porn? 0.97

00:19:09.000 Can I ask that question?

00:19:10.000 Yeah, VHS tapes came out when I was like 15 or 16. Okay, so my brother is a few years older than me, so he remembers things that I don't, but he'll tell me them.

00:19:23.000 I'm like, oh shit. 0.89

00:19:24.000 I forgot about that. 0.99

00:19:25.000 So I was watching porn in like early elementary school, like first grade and second grade, like because we had like a communal porn box.

00:19:33.000 Oh yeah.

00:19:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:19:35.000 Like my dad, my dad, my dad had this like, like an old school water heater box just stacked with fucking porn, right? 0.99

00:19:44.000 You kids don't know about this, but we had like the communal VCR, so like you would go to watch Aladdin, you know, and all of a sudden like Buttfuckers 29 is on the fucking TV. So I started watching porn when I was like, I don't know, I was jerking off to the fucking third grade, my fucking third grade teacher. 0.99

00:20:03.000 But I was surrounded by that, right? 1.00

00:20:07.000 So already I'm at this moral decay.

00:20:10.000 And I was the odd one.

00:20:13.000 I was the odd one, man. 1.00

00:20:14.000 I had to go fucking find the porn. 1.00

00:20:16.000 I had to go fucking... 1.00

00:20:16.000 My brother always jokes that when he would take my dad's porn tape out of the VCR, he would always have to rewind it to where he started so no one knew he was watching porn. 1.00

00:20:27.000 But then he jokes, he's like, oh man, I always know where my dad's coming now.

00:20:32.000 You know the spot? 1.00

00:20:33.000 When you come, you just shut the fucking thing off. 1.00

00:20:35.000 Oh, that's gross. 1.00

00:20:37.000 But so, yeah, right? 0.99

00:20:38.000 Yeah, dude, my dad was fucking... 1.00

00:20:40.000 I'm surprised I'm a lot more fucked up. 0.99

00:20:42.000 But, you know, so what I'm saying... 0.97

00:20:45.000 Is he alive now?

00:20:46.000 No, he died of cancer. 0.99

00:20:47.000 It's actually fucking... 0.99

00:20:48.000 I'll tell you. 0.99

00:20:50.000 But it's kind of funny.

00:20:53.000 Like, so I'm an oddity.

00:20:55.000 I'm an oddity. 0.99

00:20:56.000 I'm jerking off. 1.00

00:20:57.000 I'm a little fucking kid, you know? 1.00

00:20:58.000 I'm an oddity. 1.00

00:20:59.000 Like, I'm fucking violent. 1.00

00:21:01.000 But now, dude, you give a little kid a cell phone, and you have two parents working, next thing you know, I mean, you fucking go on Instagram, you got titties in your face. 1.00

00:21:12.000 Like, now we're, like, hyper-sexualizing kids, and I think that's also a big moral decay. 1.00

00:21:18.000 Because the moment you become hyper-sexualized, and I can't stop thinking about fucking pussy and dick, like, it starts fucking your brain up at such a young age. 1.00

00:21:25.000 And it's a very unusual way to give it to kids where they have instant access to watching porn on their phone all day long. 1.00

00:21:32.000 And we have no morals. 0.99

00:21:33.000 There's no reason not to be a shitty person these days. 0.99

00:21:36.000 You ain't going to heaven. 1.00

00:21:37.000 Just fucking go fucking fuck the chick. 1.00

00:21:39.000 Come in her. 1.00

00:21:40.000 You don't gotta raise your fucking kid. 1.00

00:21:42.000 So I think one of the best things we can do as a society is Mitigate. 1.00

00:21:47.000 Mitigate sex. 0.99

00:21:47.000 Because that is, like, the gateway to, like, that's why we want to make money, that's why kids want to sell drugs, that's why kids want to go fucking party. 0.99

00:21:54.000 There is no fucking pussy. 1.00

00:21:55.000 Like, you know, no one fucking, like, no one, if, like, if there is no fucking pussy, no one's going to a party. 1.00

00:22:01.000 Why do I want to go to a party and drink? 1.00

00:22:03.000 I'm going to go to get fucking pussy, you know? 1.00

00:22:04.000 Right. 1.00

00:22:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:22:05.000 I always joke, I say no one shoots up a school because they have too much fucking pussy. 1.00

00:22:09.000 That's true. 1.00

00:22:10.000 But there are some good things about it.

00:22:11.000 There are some good things about it.

00:22:12.000 Oh, for sure.

00:22:13.000 There's good things about it, but it is weird when it's like hyper sexualizing kids.

00:22:18.000 It's not good. 1.00

00:22:19.000 And then like you go and you see fucking kids these days, like the shit they wear, like fucking, dude, put some fucking clothes on. 1.00

00:22:25.000 You fucking like 16, your fucking titties are out. 1.00

00:22:27.000 Well, they're being told that that's what gets them attention. 1.00

00:22:30.000 Yes. 1.00

00:22:30.000 You know, and they're being, they see it all the time on Instagram when a girl has like 5 million followers and every photo is a picture of her ass. 1.00

00:22:37.000 Yeah, fucking assholes hanging out and shit, you know? 1.00

00:22:39.000 Fuck, dude. 1.00

00:22:39.000 That's crazy. 1.00

00:22:40.000 You're a Norm Macdonald fan?

00:22:42.000 Yeah, I loved him. 0.99

00:22:42.000 I fucking love Norm Macdonald. 0.99

00:22:43.000 He's a great guy, man. 0.99

00:22:44.000 I love this skit about being famous.

00:22:46.000 He's like, what do we have to do after they went to the moon?

00:22:49.000 You had to go to the moon to be famous. 1.00

00:22:51.000 Now you just show your fucking asshole. 1.00

00:22:53.000 Success, dude. 1.00

00:22:54.000 There we go, man.

00:22:56.000 Yeah, it's true.

00:22:57.000 Norm was a gangster.

00:22:58.000 He didn't even tell anybody he had cancer. 0.94

00:23:01.000 Didn't tell anybody. 1.00

00:23:02.000 He was a fucking man, dude. 1.00

00:23:03.000 My friend Adam, who's a very good friend of his, he didn't even know. 1.00

00:23:06.000 He just fucking went off to Canada to die. 1.00

00:23:09.000 Solid fucking guy, too, man. 1.00

00:23:10.000 Super solid guy. 0.99

00:23:12.000 You'd never think he was a solid, moral human being, but as you got older, you started showing that, like, hey, I'm a decent human being. 1.00

00:23:18.000 You're like, oh shit. 0.99

00:23:19.000 No, he was a great guy. 1.00

00:23:20.000 He was a maniac, though.

00:23:21.000 Just randomly, for some reason, twice, I was on flights with him, sitting right next to him.

00:23:26.000 Just totally randomly.

00:23:27.000 It was crazy.

00:23:28.000 And one time, we were on this flight.

00:23:31.000 And we're talking, and he was telling me, yeah, I stopped smoking.

00:23:35.000 I don't smoke anymore.

00:23:36.000 And we're talking about smoking and this and that.

00:23:38.000 And I'm like, what was it about smoking?

00:23:41.000 He's telling me the whole deal. 1.00

00:23:42.000 The moment we land, he goes right into a fucking store and buys a pack of cigarettes. 0.99

00:23:47.000 And he's lighting the cigarette up before he gets out the door. 1.00

00:23:50.000 I go, I thought you quit smoking.

00:23:51.000 He goes, I did, but then I started talking about it.

00:23:53.000 I want to smoke.

00:23:54.000 He was lighting it inside before he went out the door. 1.00

00:23:58.000 Hey, old fucking man had a good life, dude. 1.00

00:24:00.000 You had a great life. 1.00

00:24:01.000 Fucking cancer, man. 1.00

00:24:01.000 My dad died of fucking cancer. 1.00

00:24:03.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:24:04.000 It's horrible shit. 1.00

00:24:05.000 My dad, dude, he was so fucked up on pills that, like, he had every kind of cancer. 1.00

00:24:10.000 Like, I mean, like, body, brain cancer. 0.99

00:24:12.000 Like, every kind of cancer.

00:24:14.000 And I think the doctors were like, dude, how did you not know something was wrong?

00:24:19.000 Like, at this point, you should have been like, there's something wrong with you, right?

00:24:22.000 Right. 0.99

00:24:23.000 Yeah, fucking A, dude, yeah. 1.00

00:24:25.000 And then he was like, my dad was such a fucking coward, though. 1.00

00:24:27.000 Like, he was the kind of guy, like, you know, Norm did the right thing. 0.99

00:24:29.000 He's like, I'm gonna go Canada.

00:24:30.000 I'm gonna die with dignity. 1.00

00:24:31.000 Nah, fuck that, dude. 1.00

00:24:32.000 My dad was like, give me all the drugs. 1.00

00:24:34.000 I'm just gonna ride this bitch out. 1.00

00:24:36.000 Well, if you're doing pills already and they tell you you're fucked. 1.00

00:24:40.000 They're thinking pills, man. 0.99

00:24:41.000 You want to talk about, like, the corruption.

00:24:43.000 Like, I don't know.

00:24:44.000 I'm sure your viewers have a lot of experience with dealing with people who do pills, man. 1.00

00:24:49.000 It's fucking horrible, dude. 1.00

00:24:50.000 It's the worst. 1.00

00:24:50.000 And, you know, that Sackler family, they just fucking bribed their way out of being prosecuted for that. 1.00

00:24:55.000 They just gave up $6 billion so that they're... 0.98

00:24:58.000 Immune to prosecution. 1.00

00:24:59.000 It's fucking evil shit what they did. 1.00

00:25:01.000 They knew that stuff was addictive. 1.00

00:25:03.000 They knew that people were gonna get hooked.

00:25:04.000 They knew it was gonna ruin lives and kill people.

00:25:06.000 I mean, you're in the entertainment area.

00:25:07.000 I'm sure you deal with it, dude. 0.76

00:25:08.000 It makes you zombies. 0.98

00:25:09.000 Like, pills suck the soul from you. 1.00

00:25:11.000 When I was in my motorcycle accident, man, I fucking tore... 0.99

00:25:15.000 I'm still missing my quadricep. 0.99

00:25:16.000 I fucking... 0.99

00:25:17.000 I left part of my kneecap on the road and, like, I would not take pills just because I watched it my whole life growing up. 1.00

00:25:22.000 I was like, fuck that. 0.99

00:25:23.000 I'm just gonna be in pain for this. 1.00

00:25:24.000 What's wrong with your quadricep?

00:25:27.000 So, it's torn.

00:25:28.000 It's gone.

00:25:29.000 You don't have a quad?

00:25:30.000 Yeah, no.

00:25:31.000 There's a little indent right there.

00:25:32.000 See how it like dips in?

00:25:33.000 Oh, whoa!

00:25:34.000 Yeah, so I got to the point where it's like, I mean, I could go get a fix.

00:25:37.000 I'm going to be out for a year, so, you know, I'll deal with that.

00:25:40.000 How would they fix it? 0.99

00:25:41.000 Probably just like, you know, maybe, it would be a pain in the ass. 0.98

00:25:44.000 They'd probably have to like lengthen it. 0.98

00:25:46.000 It's probably dead now, but yeah, I think they probably could, but I'm going to be out for a year or two years.

00:25:50.000 How much of it, does it affect your movement?

00:25:53.000 Have you compensated with the other muscles?

00:25:55.000 If I was athletic, it'd be really hard for me to fight. 0.99

00:26:00.000 But I stand like a fucking tree, you know? 0.99

00:26:03.000 I'm the easiest. 1.00

00:26:05.000 It's so funny. 0.56

00:26:05.000 Guys will come to the gym, like D1 wrestlers, and I'm like, listen, dude, you can shoot on me. 0.56

00:26:10.000 I'm the easiest motherfucker to take down. 0.99

00:26:12.000 You're going to take me down, but you ain't going to hold me down. 1.00

00:26:14.000 So luckily I stand like a fucking idiot. 1.00

00:26:17.000 So I could, you know, it's not that bad. 1.00

00:26:20.000 But if I was like an explosive wrestler, I'd be fucked. 0.99

00:26:23.000 I couldn't trade. 0.99

00:26:23.000 You don't want me to fight anymore. 0.99

00:26:25.000 If it was my lead leg, it'd be hard too.

00:26:27.000 Because I want to be able to absorb damage. 0.98

00:26:30.000 But yeah, so like, yeah, pills, man, fucking scary. 0.99

00:26:33.000 They're terrifying. 0.99

00:26:34.000 Dude, I'll never forget my dad, my fucking dad, dude. 0.99

00:26:37.000 He fucking, I'm like 17, 18, and I come home, and like, he's laying in bed, dude, my brother's 1911. My mom bought us guns at like super early. 0.99

00:26:47.000 Dude, I was like in fucking, I was like in fucking elementary school with a loaded gun in my room, you know? 0.99

00:26:52.000 Really? 1.00

00:26:53.000 Yeah, white trash, dude. 1.00

00:26:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:26:56.000 So I'm like 17, I come home, and my dad's staying there, and my fucking brother's 45, you know, really cool 45, and he's like talking about killing himself, and I'm like... 0.93

00:27:04.000 Oh, God. 0.99

00:27:05.000 And I'm like, dude, dad, like, I'm like, dude, you should do it, man. 0.99

00:27:08.000 Like, you should fucking do it. 0.96

00:27:10.000 You told him to do it? 1.00

00:27:11.000 Well, like, I'm like, dude, your wife's fucking her boss, your wife's cheating on you, like, you're fucking poor, like, you're a drug addict, like, like, where's your path to success from here? 1.00

00:27:21.000 You were telling him this at 14? 1.00

00:27:23.000 No, I was like 17. I was like, where is your...

00:27:26.000 I mean, fuck, I would have told him at 14. I probably would have at 14, I probably would have pulled the trigger, you know? 1.00

00:27:31.000 But I was like, dude, I was training now.

00:27:33.000 I was in a better place. 0.99

00:27:34.000 So I was like, where is your fucking path to success here? 0.99

00:27:38.000 Like, where is your happy ending? 0.99

00:27:40.000 I mean, there was at one point where I fucking took a gun, put his hand on the trigger, and I said, just fucking, you know... 0.99

00:27:46.000 When you're a minor sociopath, too, you know, you kind of get power out of that. 0.99

00:27:50.000 You kind of get a little kick out of it. 0.99

00:27:51.000 Like, oh yeah, I wonder if I can make him kill himself. 0.99

00:27:53.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

00:27:55.000 Jesus Christ.

00:27:56.000 But, fast forward, fast forward.

00:28:01.000 It's great you can laugh at it now.

00:28:03.000 Oh, dude. 1.00

00:28:04.000 I mean, if you can't laugh at all your fuck... 1.00

00:28:07.000 Dude, I mean, I went through some shit growing up, man. 1.00

00:28:09.000 But fast forward, man. 1.00

00:28:12.000 He fucking died 10 years later of fucking cancer. 1.00

00:28:15.000 And if you would have just fucking... 1.00

00:28:16.000 Some people you can't help, dude. 0.99

00:28:18.000 There's some people that like...

00:28:19.000 I mean, I'm not an advocate for suicide. 1.00

00:28:21.000 But there are some fucking motherfuckers in the world you cannot help. 1.00

00:28:25.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:28:25.000 And if you would have just did it, it would have saved himself 10 years of misery. 1.00

00:28:29.000 Jesus Christ.

00:28:30.000 Yeah, no, dude, my dad.

00:28:31.000 The worst thing about my dad, dude, is, like, when I was a kid, dude, he was, like, the monster, dude. 1.00

00:28:35.000 He was, like, the fucking boogeyman. 0.99

00:28:37.000 And I remember there was one time, dude, my brother fucking strapped him, like, we were talking elementary school, strapped a knife to his leg to go stab him. 1.00

00:28:45.000 Jesus. 0.99

00:28:46.000 And then he bitched out last second.

00:28:48.000 I remember, like, him taking off the duct tape around his leg and just ripping all his hair out of his...

00:28:55.000 But yeah, later in life, dude, I think the first time I hit my dad, I was like 17. I headbutted and broke his nose and he just fell down crying.

00:29:01.000 I was like so disappointed. 1.00

00:29:03.000 I was like, you motherfucker. 1.00

00:29:04.000 Piece of shit, dude. 1.00

00:29:06.000 Wow. 1.00

00:29:07.000 You're the biggest fucking coward, you know? 1.00

00:29:09.000 Yeah, life's crazy. 1.00

00:29:10.000 I mean, how'd you, man?

00:29:10.000 You got good parents growing up?

00:29:12.000 My parents split up when I was five, but I got a good stepdad.

00:29:16.000 Okay.

00:29:16.000 What about your dad?

00:29:17.000 You talk to your dad?

00:29:17.000 No.

00:29:18.000 I don't talk to him at all.

00:29:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:29:20.000 Fucking dude, men suck, man. 1.00

00:29:21.000 Some of them do. 1.00

00:29:22.000 I'm like a bull dyke, bro. 0.99

00:29:23.000 I don't know why lesbians hate me, you guys. 1.00

00:29:27.000 I'm with you. 1.00

00:29:27.000 Fuck the men, dude. 1.00

00:29:28.000 I like pussy. 1.00

00:29:29.000 I hate men. 1.00

00:29:30.000 We're fucking... 1.00

00:29:31.000 There's good men out there, but it's hard to be a good man. 0.99

00:29:34.000 So it's a long path.

00:29:35.000 It's a very difficult path.

00:29:37.000 Oh yeah, dude. 1.00

00:29:37.000 And then, you know, fucking good men make fucked up kids. 1.00

00:29:40.000 They make fucked up. 1.00

00:29:41.000 Sometimes. 0.98

00:29:43.000 But there's not really many good men out there.

00:29:45.000 I'm going West Coast, you guys.

00:29:46.000 It's hard.

00:29:47.000 It's hard to be a good man.

00:29:48.000 I mean, it's a lot of work. 0.99

00:29:50.000 Growing up, my neighbors sucked. 1.00

00:29:51.000 All the hoodlums I hung out with fucking sucked. 1.00

00:29:54.000 Right. 1.00

00:29:54.000 And that's all you know. 1.00

00:29:55.000 Yeah.

00:29:56.000 It's like what we're talking about with inner cities.

00:29:58.000 If that's all you know, it's very difficult to see a path outside of that. 0.98

00:30:02.000 I mean, if I, you know, say I fucking had a kid when I was younger, like, I would have fucked that kid up. 0.98

00:30:06.000 I would have fucked that kid up. 1.00

00:30:07.000 I mean, white trash, trailer park. 1.00

00:30:09.000 I mean, I wouldn't have beat him or put my dick in him, but, like, I would have fucked that kid up, you know? 1.00

00:30:12.000 Right. 1.00

00:30:13.000 It's actually funny.

00:30:14.000 I always tell the story.

00:30:16.000 My dad's dying of cancer, and he's doing, like, the...

00:30:18.000 He's doing his, like, forgiveness speech, you know?

00:30:21.000 I'm like, I'll go see you.

00:30:23.000 He's like, Sean, you know, I was really bad to you and your mom, but, uh...

00:30:29.000 But at least I never molested you.

00:30:32.000 Oh boy. 1.00

00:30:33.000 I was like, fuck yeah, dude. 1.00

00:30:34.000 What a low bar. 1.00

00:30:36.000 Cheers! 1.00

00:30:37.000 Hey, you never fucked me. 1.00

00:30:38.000 Give me one of those oxys. 1.00

00:30:39.000 I'm gonna fucking ride this out with you. 0.99

00:30:41.000 Yeah, man. 1.00

00:30:42.000 Fucking hate you. 1.00

00:30:43.000 What the fuck, man. 1.00

00:30:44.000 But I think also, too, that's why people like me, because most people are fucked up. 1.00

00:30:48.000 They see me and they're like, oh yeah, man, I was fucked up. 1.00

00:30:51.000 I've watched my mom get the shit kicked out of her, too. 1.00

00:30:53.000 I've dodged a beer bottle on Christmas morning. 1.00

00:30:56.000 You know? 1.00

00:30:57.000 So I think that's why people like me, because a lot of people are fucked up. 0.99

00:31:01.000 A lot of people are fucked up, but you've managed to go through being fucked up to becoming one of the best fighters in the world. 0.99

00:31:07.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:31:07.000 That's the hard path. 1.00

00:31:08.000 Oh, man, I was obsessive.

00:31:10.000 Like, I mean, when I was... 0.97

00:31:12.000 So I didn't really, like, one, I was fucking angry at you. 0.99

00:31:15.000 Like, I mean, I wanted to fucking kill someone so bad as a kid. 1.00

00:31:17.000 I'd walk around with a fucking knife just hoping I'd fucking, just like, fuck, I still want to kill somebody. 1.00

00:31:22.000 It just would make me feel good, you know? 1.00

00:31:23.000 I'd just fucking just, oh, I'd fucking love it. 0.63

00:31:26.000 But, so, you had that kind of anger growing up. 1.00

00:31:29.000 And I needed fucking, so that's why I was also a white supremacist. 0.99

00:31:33.000 I mean, could you picture being like, can you picture, I don't even know what this is like, and no one even interjected in my life, me being 12 years old, walking around doing the fucking Hill Hitler sloop with a fucking swastika on my arm. 0.99

00:31:43.000 At no point did anybody say like, hey, maybe we should help this fucking kid, you know? 0.97

00:31:49.000 I was in a, I remember like, seventh grade, I took a permanent mark and I drew a swastika on my arm. 0.99

00:31:55.000 And the teacher took me outside and berated me, pretty much calling me a piece of shit, like, you know what that fucking means? 1.00

00:32:03.000 You're a fucking piece of shit. 1.00

00:32:06.000 At no point was he like, hey man, why is this fucking 12-year-old kid having a swastika on his arm? 1.00

00:32:13.000 Right. 1.00

00:32:13.000 It's fucking... 1.00

00:32:15.000 Yeah, the system's weird, dude. 0.99

00:32:16.000 Well, life can certainly be weird if you got those circumstances. 1.00

00:32:20.000 Yeah, fuck. 0.99

00:32:20.000 But you're like best case scenario from those circumstances. 0.99

00:32:23.000 Training, man. 1.00

00:32:23.000 It's fucking training. 1.00

00:32:24.000 I mean, dude, I was so fucking angry. 0.99

00:32:26.000 And that was the best thing about fighting for me is... 0.98

00:32:30.000 I could go in the garage every Friday night, Saturday night, and just hit the bag all night long. 0.96

00:32:34.000 And when my brother's party, my brother had these, like, so we didn't have, like, we had parents, but, like, my dad was probably trying to fuck the girls that my brother brought over for the high school parties, you know? 0.99

00:32:43.000 So it's like, my dad was out there probably giving him drugs and shit. 0.99

00:32:47.000 So, like, I would just be in the garage with all these fucking parties and debaucheries and fucking threesomes and foursomes were taking place, and I would just be in the garage fucking smacking the back, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. 0.98

00:32:56.000 And then, like, I didn't fit in, so, like, it was really just a way for, oh, Sean's not weird, he's a fighter. 0.98

00:33:03.000 Sean's not the fucking weirdo that doesn't know how to talk to people, he's a fighter. 0.67

00:33:06.000 And that gave you your identity. 0.99

00:33:07.000 It gave him my identity.

00:33:08.000 I mean, every night I'd be running at night.

00:33:11.000 Yeah.

00:33:11.000 Where did you start?

00:33:13.000 What gym?

00:33:13.000 Empire.

00:33:14.000 I started when I was about 14. And where was that?

00:33:16.000 Corona, California.

00:33:17.000 And then I had my first, like, smoker fight at, like, 14. So, I mean, I'm fucking old now, you guys. 0.98

00:33:24.000 That was before amateur. 0.92

00:33:25.000 How old are you?

00:33:25.000 I'm 32. That was, like, before amateur MMA. So it's, like, pretty much what you would do is you would just show up, they'd put chairs in, they'd buy tickets, and random people would just show up and you'd fight.

00:33:36.000 Yeah, so that's how I started.

00:33:38.000 And I didn't even want to fight.

00:33:39.000 I didn't want to fight. 1.00

00:33:39.000 I was like, Paul Hare was a fucking scumbag. 1.00

00:33:41.000 He was just like, you would show up and be like, well, if you're training here, you're fighting here. 1.00

00:33:45.000 Go sell tickets.

00:33:46.000 Me being 14. I mean, I think my first fight was against guys like 28 years old.

00:33:50.000 Like, you know, my fucking nuts barely dropped, dude. 0.99

00:33:54.000 But yeah, anger is a hell of a fucking thing, dude. 1.00

00:33:57.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:33:58.000 And it's impossible to grow up like that and not have anger. 1.00

00:34:01.000 Fuck, dude. 1.00

00:34:01.000 You know what's weird, though? 1.00

00:34:02.000 And the thing is, though, it's not like...

00:34:04.000 And I try to tell people, like, I'm not necessarily anger.

00:34:06.000 I'm not angry. 0.98

00:34:07.000 Like, I would love to fucking cut somebody open, and I'm not angry. 0.99

00:34:11.000 Like, it just sounds nice. 0.99

00:34:17.000 You gotta get that out of your system, buddy.

00:34:19.000 I want to get a spar three times today.

00:34:21.000 Like, you gotta understand, man.

00:34:22.000 You gotta understand, bro.

00:34:23.000 You gotta understand, like...

00:34:25.000 People are like, oh, go to therapy.

00:34:26.000 Your brain, dude, the damage is done, bro.

00:34:29.000 It's unfixable.

00:34:31.000 Don't you think that sparring and training is a form of therapy?

00:34:34.000 Why do you think I spar so much?

00:34:35.000 And that's why I have such a good style where I don't get hit because I love to spar.

00:34:40.000 And if I got hit, I couldn't spar.

00:34:41.000 Well, your control of distance, your distance management because of all those rounds.

00:34:45.000 The UFC did a test where they let us wear a mouthpiece.

00:34:48.000 And I think that my whole training camp, I barely even got hit.

00:34:53.000 I sparred the most and took the least amount of damage to anybody in the program.

00:34:57.000 Because you spar so much?

00:34:58.000 I spar so much.

00:34:59.000 Is that the majority of your training?

00:35:01.000 Yeah, I spar.

00:35:02.000 I'll hit pads occasionally, but it's all live goes.

00:35:05.000 Really?

00:35:05.000 All live goes?

00:35:06.000 What about strength and conditioning?

00:35:07.000 You doing any of that?

00:35:08.000 Not really, no.

00:35:09.000 Really, it's just sparring.

00:35:11.000 Just sparring, man.

00:35:11.000 There's no better way to get in shape for fighting than fighting.

00:35:13.000 It's fun, dude. 0.99

00:35:14.000 It's fucking fun, man. 0.97

00:35:15.000 Like, you know, I'm such a nicer, better person, you know? 0.99

00:35:18.000 Like, after I go and try to fucking kill a man, I come home and my girlfriend, even she wants to pick a fight. 1.00

00:35:23.000 I'm like, baby, it's okay. 0.99

00:35:23.000 Don't worry about it. 0.99

00:35:24.000 Like, don't trip. 0.92

00:35:25.000 Like, where did I fuck up? 0.97

00:35:26.000 Tell me. 0.99

00:35:27.000 I'll fix it.

00:35:28.000 You know?

00:35:29.000 Like, dude, training. 0.97

00:35:30.000 Training's fucking nice, dude. 0.88

00:35:32.000 Yeah. 0.92

00:35:32.000 But I mean, dude, I don't like... 0.92

00:35:34.000 I think a lot of people, though, have these crazy homicidal urges, dude. 0.98

00:35:37.000 I think we all want to fucking shank somebody, shiv somebody. 0.98

00:35:40.000 There's a lot of people out there that have that. 0.99

00:35:42.000 Yeah, there's a lot of unresolved anger.

00:35:44.000 Bro, I used to, like, I used to sleep in my mom's bed a lot, right?

00:35:48.000 Because I thought, I mean, we're talking about, like, when I shunned in, like, elementary school. 0.98

00:35:51.000 Because, like, I thought my dad was going to fucking kill my mom. 0.99

00:35:53.000 So every night, dude, I would, like, I would go to bed thinking, like, oh, shit, my mom's going to die tonight, you know? 1.00

00:35:59.000 His words, not mine. 0.99

00:36:00.000 So, like, yeah.

00:36:02.000 I mean, you gotta learn to laugh at it, right? 1.00

00:36:04.000 At least you didn't fuck me. 1.00

00:36:07.000 I mean, I have some bad dreams, but I'm just gonna say those were bad dreams, right? 0.99

00:36:12.000 Jesus Christ.

00:36:13.000 Jesus Christ.

00:36:14.000 So, yeah, you know, repressed memories are bad dreams.

00:36:17.000 It's always better to just say bad dreams, right?

00:36:20.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:36:24.000 So, I, like, dude, I used to, like, sleep out by her fucking... 0.99

00:36:27.000 And this is where it fucked up, too. 1.00

00:36:29.000 Like, I used to sleep by her door and hear her fuck all the time. 1.00

00:36:31.000 Ugh. 1.00

00:36:31.000 Because, you know, because being a little kid, dude, like, and listening to your mom get fucked by your dad because, like, you're so afraid she's going to fucking die. 1.00

00:36:38.000 That's so crazy. 0.99

00:36:39.000 Yeah, so there's one night. 1.00

00:36:40.000 There's one fucking night, dude. 0.99

00:36:42.000 And this is just like, and mind you, this is nightly. 0.99

00:36:44.000 This is nightly.

00:36:45.000 But this night stands out the most. 1.00

00:36:46.000 And my mom, fucking dumb bitch. 1.00

00:36:47.000 I love my mom. 1.00

00:36:48.000 She's amazing.

00:36:49.000 I mean, she's terrible, but she's amazing.

00:36:51.000 You know, she grew up in a boxcar. 0.60

00:36:52.000 How do you fix that? 1.00

00:36:53.000 So, her dad, her dad was a piece of shit. 1.00

00:36:56.000 So, one night, like, I'm, like, probably, like, third, fourth grade, and I went to go sleep in my mom's room. 1.00

00:37:01.000 My dad's like, fuck that. 1.00

00:37:02.000 They're having a bad fight. 1.00

00:37:03.000 I'm like, fuck. 1.00

00:37:03.000 So, I'm, like, laying out by the door, trying not to fucking, you know. 1.00

00:37:06.000 And I'm like, fuck it. 0.99

00:37:07.000 Like, I just don't feel good about this tonight. 1.00

00:37:09.000 I don't feel good about it tonight.

00:37:10.000 So, I, like, crawl under the bed.

00:37:11.000 I crawl under the bed.

00:37:12.000 And, uh...

00:37:14.000 We had like dogs. 1.00

00:37:15.000 There's no white trash, bro. 1.00

00:37:16.000 You got white trash. 1.00

00:37:17.000 It's got like fleas everywhere. 1.00

00:37:19.000 So I'm like, I'm hiding in the bed now.

00:37:22.000 There's fleas. 0.99

00:37:22.000 I think there's a fucking dildo next to me. 0.99

00:37:24.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

00:37:28.000 So me being like, third grade, there's a fucking dildo next to me. 1.00

00:37:31.000 There's fucking fleas jumping all over me. 1.00

00:37:33.000 Oh, man. 1.00

00:37:34.000 So my dad, my dad gets on top of my mom and she says, he said, I'm going to fucking kill you. 0.99

00:37:38.000 Maybe it's just rough. 0.99

00:37:39.000 Maybe they're going to grab the deal afterwards. 0.99

00:37:42.000 So my dad gets on top of my mom and he starts fucking like strangling her, right? 1.00

00:37:46.000 And he's like, I'm going to fucking kill you tonight. 0.99

00:37:48.000 So me being a little kid, I get up. 1.00

00:37:49.000 I'm like, fuck, the only thing I see is the guitar. 0.98

00:37:51.000 My sister's guitar, she's so mad at me about it. 1.00

00:37:53.000 I grab the guitar, just fucking smack it over his head, grab the phone call, the cops run down the hill. 0.98

00:37:57.000 Oh my God. 1.00

00:37:58.000 My mom and that dumb bitch bells them out of jail. 1.00

00:38:01.000 Oh Jesus Christ. 1.00

00:38:02.000 But, you know, like, and this is where it's fucked up, dude. 1.00

00:38:04.000 Like, my mom, like, that's where, like, my mom grew up in a fucking boxcar in Death Valley, bro. 0.99

00:38:09.000 Like, yeah. 1.00

00:38:10.000 Like, how do you, you know, how do you fix that generation of fuck? 1.00

00:38:14.000 You do. 1.00

00:38:15.000 Yeah, well, yeah, no, exactly.

00:38:16.000 That's the way.

00:38:17.000 You do by becoming you.

00:38:18.000 I don't drink, yeah, for sure.

00:38:19.000 For sure, man.

00:38:20.000 That's literally the only way.

00:38:21.000 Like, someone has to come out of that and go, like, there's a way out of this.

00:38:24.000 Yeah.

00:38:24.000 Well, the thing is, dude, I'm not like...

00:38:26.000 I mean, I had a little interesting childhood, you know? 0.92

00:38:30.000 A lot of repressed memories and bad dreams and shit we don't need to talk about. 0.75

00:38:33.000 But, like, man, I'm calming, dude. 0.96

00:38:36.000 I'm calming.

00:38:37.000 I'm way more than you think.

00:38:39.000 Yeah, they just don't have a voice.

00:38:41.000 And this is like, you know, especially the black communities, the poor communities, man. 1.00

00:38:45.000 I'm fucking guys without fucking dads. 1.00

00:38:48.000 Fucking rough, dude. 1.00

00:38:50.000 Fucking... 1.00

00:38:50.000 Yeah, life is hard, dude. 1.00

00:38:52.000 Life is fucking hard. 0.98

00:38:53.000 Yeah, but it really is. 0.99

00:38:55.000 That's the best path.

00:38:57.000 Like, martial arts are the best path to recover from that.

00:39:00.000 The only issue with martial arts, though, dude, and this is what I tell people, and if you got a kid who trains, and let's just say you're training, what I'll tell you, dude, and this is factual, and you guys should always understand this.

00:39:13.000 I tell everybody that comes in the gym, I had one guy, little Billy Bob's a pancreation champion.

00:39:19.000 I'm like, oh, that's cool.

00:39:20.000 And I tell him this.

00:39:21.000 When I was a kid, I was like 14, training at a gym, and there was a guy named Zach Light.

00:39:26.000 I don't know if he was an old school youth.

00:39:28.000 I remember that guy.

00:39:28.000 But he was like, you know, I'm like 14 years old.

00:39:30.000 This guy's like a hero to me.

00:39:31.000 I'm watching him teach cardio kickboxing. 0.99

00:39:33.000 I'm watching him teach like jiu-jitsu and like he'll spar and fuck me up. 0.99

00:39:37.000 I'm like, oh man, this guy's so fucking cool. 0.99

00:39:39.000 He's the life that I want. 1.00

00:39:41.000 And then hindsight, this man probably hates his fucking life. 1.00

00:39:45.000 He's probably fucking half brain dead. 1.00

00:39:46.000 He's teaching cardio kickboxing classes for 20 bucks a class. 0.99

00:39:50.000 So it's like, whenever you look at UFC fighters and you want to be this, understand, most of us, most of us end up poor, broke, and regretting our life choices.

00:40:03.000 Like...

00:40:04.000 It's easier ways to make money, guys.

00:40:06.000 That's true.

00:40:07.000 I love fighting. 0.99

00:40:08.000 If it wasn't fighting, I'd probably be a fucking... 0.99

00:40:09.000 I wouldn't be a serial killer. 1.00

00:40:11.000 I'd probably just be a fuckhead in jail with a swastika on my arm. 1.00

00:40:14.000 But don't you think that, like, that path... 1.00

00:40:18.000 If...

00:40:21.000 You've got to be 100% obsessed to become successful.

00:40:26.000 But even then, man, I mean, I see guys so often in life.

00:40:29.000 It's kind of funny talking about UFC and money.

00:40:32.000 I have a buddy named Ife. 1.00

00:40:34.000 I'm going to fuck his name. 1.00

00:40:35.000 I'm sorry. 1.00

00:40:35.000 Kyle. 1.00

00:40:37.000 Some Brazilian guy.

00:40:38.000 Contenders guy.

00:40:39.000 Really good guy.

00:40:40.000 He's trying to fight Bo Nickel.

00:40:42.000 Anyway, UFC guy, he just bought his first house having a kid.

00:40:46.000 Dude, like, the average house in Brazil to buy is like $200,000.

00:40:51.000 Like, maybe even less.

00:40:52.000 I mean, that's like a nice house.

00:40:54.000 A nice house.

00:40:55.000 An average house in America is 4'5".

00:40:57.000 So it's like, you know, you see a lot more foreigners in this sport.

00:41:00.000 And you're like, why are there more foreigners in this sport? 1.00

00:41:02.000 America's pussies. 1.00

00:41:03.000 And I'm like, no, because they can afford it. 1.00

00:41:05.000 You go and you fight.

00:41:06.000 They're signing guys at 10 and 10. Like, literally 10 and 10. Like...

00:41:09.000 Ten and ten on four fights, man.

00:41:11.000 In three fights you get cut. 1.00

00:41:12.000 So they sign these Brazilians, these daggies, what the fuck you want to call them. 1.00

00:41:16.000 They go home with their 20k and they're living life good. 0.99

00:41:19.000 They're living life good.

00:41:20.000 How do you live on 20k and 20k...

00:41:23.000 And pay your manager and pay your trainers and pay your gym fees and food and proper nutrition.

00:41:29.000 So again, I think that's also a big reason why we're seeing less Americans because...

00:41:36.000 You know, they're taking our jobs. 1.00

00:41:38.000 Like, fuck, dude. 1.00

00:41:38.000 Like, you know, it's easier to import them, man. 1.00

00:41:40.000 It's easier to import fighters.

00:41:41.000 And they go back home to Dagestan, Brazil, and they live on their... 0.99

00:41:44.000 Let's just say they make shit money and they're happy. 0.95

00:41:47.000 Well, it's also who's talented and why are they so driven and who's training them and what kind of environment are they training in? 0.99

00:41:54.000 America is the best.

00:41:55.000 We have the best athletes in the world, man.

00:41:57.000 If there was, like, NFL money in the UFC... People think that I hate on UFC, dude. 0.98

00:42:04.000 I make more money on UFC than I should make in my entire fucking life. 0.99

00:42:07.000 I am a fucking company man. 1.00

00:42:09.000 If it wasn't for the UFC, bro, I'd be a piece of shit. 1.00

00:42:12.000 I'd be a fucking drug addict. 1.00

00:42:14.000 But if there was NFL money in the UFC... We would dominate the UFC. There would not be one foreign fucking champion. 1.00

00:42:23.000 But do you think that a lot of those guys who play sports, like they play football or they play basketball, do you think they would want to fight? 0.99

00:42:31.000 Because you have to have a very different kind of mentality to want to get into a ring or a cage with another man.

00:42:38.000 It's different than playing a sport.

00:42:40.000 The pressure, the consequences.

00:42:43.000 If it was a high school thing and you could go get a D1 scholarship and you could leave the ghettos by being an MMA fighter, 100%. 0.56

00:42:50.000 100% they would do it. 1.00

00:42:52.000 Fuck yeah, man. 1.00

00:42:53.000 So how do we fix that? 1.00

00:42:56.000 Like, money in the UFC? I mean, fuck, I don't know, you know more about that than me. 0.98

00:43:00.000 Well, there's money in the UFC for guys like you. 1.00

00:43:02.000 Oh, yeah, I can't say.

00:43:02.000 There's money in the UFC, but that's also in boxing.

00:43:05.000 The UFC's better than boxing when it comes to how undercard fighters get paid.

00:43:09.000 Yeah, again, and this is, I'm a company man when it comes to UFC, you guys.

00:43:12.000 Like, most people, most people, most guys, like, even if they make fucking 80k a year, 90k a year, that's better than what we should have made. 1.00

00:43:19.000 We're like, we're fucking, I'm a fucking loser. 0.99

00:43:22.000 But, how do you fix it, man? 1.00

00:43:26.000 I don't know.

00:43:27.000 I don't think it needs to be fixed.

00:43:28.000 Well, it's better now than it's been before.

00:43:30.000 Let me just say, U of C has the most pay discrepancy.

00:43:33.000 When you're talking about top earnings to lower earnings, I think U of C probably has the most...

00:43:40.000 Boxing is worse.

00:43:42.000 Well, boxing's worse.

00:43:43.000 But we could say, let's exclude boxing.

00:43:45.000 But there's way more money at the top and way less trickle-down. 0.99

00:43:49.000 But I don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:43:50.000 But it's so hard to get to the top. 0.99

00:43:52.000 I mean, imagine just trying to explain to someone what you've done to become a top contender. 0.67

00:43:57.000 You only need to have one fuck-up, one slip-up, one mistake, two bad losses. 0.60

00:44:03.000 An injury. 1.00

00:44:04.000 But here's the thing, dude, guys, I'm not like, even though we're fucking whores, dude, we're prostitutes. 0.99

00:44:09.000 And I'm not like, you know, I'm not like, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. 1.00

00:44:13.000 We take our fucking clothes off and go fight a man. 1.00

00:44:15.000 Like, come on, dude, what the fuck? 1.00

00:44:17.000 But it's not. 1.00

00:44:18.000 It's like porn.

00:44:19.000 But it's also the ultimate form of entertainment for people that are watching.

00:44:22.000 There's nothing more exciting.

00:44:24.000 Oh yeah, good fight, man.

00:44:25.000 Gaethje versus Chandler. 0.98

00:44:27.000 Your fight this weekend, when you started turning it on in the second round, I was at the fucking edge of my seat. 0.97

00:44:32.000 I was like, he's got him. 0.94

00:44:33.000 But Gaethje versus Chandler.

00:44:35.000 Oh my god.

00:44:36.000 That was front rowing that one. 0.77

00:44:38.000 Insanity. 0.99

00:44:39.000 Fucking lost short in their life on that one. 0.99

00:44:41.000 But again, I'm not one of those guys bitching and complaining about pay. 0.99

00:44:44.000 I get paid good money.

00:44:46.000 I shouldn't be here. 0.99

00:44:47.000 I shouldn't be making what I'm fucking making in life. 0.98

00:44:49.000 UFC gave me an opportunity. 0.99

00:44:53.000 UFC is a common man sport. 0.99

00:44:55.000 Right now, fucking Jamie if he wanted to. 0.99

00:44:57.000 He could train. 0.99

00:44:58.000 Probably not going to happen, but he could be in the UFC if he wanted to.

00:45:01.000 Anybody could do it.

00:45:03.000 You let me restart my life and tell me to go be in the NFL, probably not going to happen.

00:45:07.000 Going to be in the NBA, 100% not going to happen.

00:45:09.000 UFC is a common man sport.

00:45:11.000 Any person on this planet could wake up one day and be like, I want to be a UFC champion.

00:45:15.000 And they could get it done.

00:45:18.000 I mean, not that easy, but you know.

00:45:21.000 Right.

00:45:21.000 I know what you're saying.

00:45:23.000 Yeah, man. 0.97

00:45:23.000 UFC is fucking great, dude. 0.97

00:45:25.000 It's the best sport in the world and anybody could do it. 0.91

00:45:28.000 Well, it's not for everybody, that's for sure.

00:45:30.000 And for a guy to get as far as you've gotten, it's the rarest of the rare.

00:45:35.000 I mean, you think about how many people are training, how many people have aspirations, and then filter them all out to how many people get to headline a main event.

00:45:44.000 Ideally, though, if I could talk to a kid and they were to tell me they want to be UCF, I tell them don't do it.

00:45:49.000 Yeah, I would say that too.

00:45:51.000 It's America.

00:45:51.000 It's so easy.

00:45:53.000 Unless you're fucking completely fully obsessed. 0.96

00:45:56.000 I mean, unless that's what you want to do, that's the thing you think about all day long. 0.95

00:46:00.000 Because if you don't, there's someone out there that does. 0.99

00:46:01.000 And there's a lot of UFC fighters guys that suck. 1.00

00:46:03.000 There's a lot of motherfuckers that suck. 1.00

00:46:07.000 Extreme is like open doors. 1.00

00:46:10.000 Anybody could come.

00:46:12.000 Guys are in camp.

00:46:13.000 There's some guys that are badass. 1.00

00:46:14.000 But there's some UFC fighters that are like, dude, you fucking suck. 1.00

00:46:17.000 How the fuck did you get here? 1.00

00:46:19.000 What short notice fight did you get? 1.00

00:46:21.000 You are a sacrificial lamb.

00:46:24.000 Well, there's definitely a few of those.

00:46:25.000 Oh, there's a lot of those in the UFC. A lot of those.

00:46:27.000 That's a weird one, the short-notice fight against a top contender.

00:46:31.000 Like, you see some of those every now and then.

00:46:33.000 You're like, Jesus.

00:46:34.000 Generally, that's how you get in the UFC, though.

00:46:36.000 You generally get in the UFC by—I mean, I think I took a two-week notice, a week notice on my first UFC fight.

00:46:42.000 And that's why, if you're not in the UFC, you've got to stay ready.

00:46:44.000 You've got to build make weight. 0.95

00:46:45.000 You've got to stay fucking ready. 0.97

00:46:46.000 But— Yeah, man. 0.99

00:46:48.000 Greatest fucking sport in the world, dude. 0.99

00:46:50.000 Fucking love UFC. Hopefully I can fight Izzy, the China's little slut. 1.00

00:46:55.000 What is the status of... 0.99

00:46:58.000 So right now, Whitaker is fighting this weekend against Dracus Duplicy.

00:47:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:47:05.000 And that will probably determine...

00:47:07.000 That will determine. 0.97

00:47:07.000 But I mean, fucking dude, how many times this will be their third, fourth fight with Whitaker and Izzy? 0.97

00:47:12.000 Yeah, but the last one was so close. 0.98

00:47:14.000 That's why it's interesting to people.

00:47:15.000 And, you know, we'll see what happens with Duper C. But I think they want to fight on the Australian card.

00:47:21.000 So we're in the works.

00:47:22.000 I think Izzy wants it.

00:47:23.000 I think the management wants it, you know?

00:47:26.000 So we're in the works. 1.00

00:47:27.000 And fucking Izzy, man, I can't stand that fucking guy. 1.00

00:47:29.000 I love that guy. 1.00

00:47:30.000 How come you can't stand him?

00:47:31.000 Well, you gotta interview this guy, so you gotta be nice.

00:47:33.000 No, I love him.

00:47:34.000 You see that thing when he was like, this is the color, you look at the color of my skin, you think I'm from Africa.

00:47:41.000 Have you seen that?

00:47:42.000 No.

00:47:42.000 Oh my god, you gotta see it, dude.

00:47:44.000 We gotta see it.

00:47:45.000 But he is from Africa.

00:47:46.000 Well, no, there's more.

00:47:48.000 Oh.

00:47:48.000 I am not African.

00:47:49.000 I am Chinese.

00:47:51.000 What?

00:47:51.000 You've never seen that?

00:47:52.000 Oh man, you gotta watch.

00:47:55.000 You gotta, guys, if you guys watch this, can you...

00:47:59.000 On your time, pull up Izzy Cringe. 1.00

00:48:02.000 He says, I'll quote, You look at the color of my skin.

00:48:06.000 You think I'm from Africa, but I am Chinese. 1.00

00:48:10.000 Like, dude, that level of fucking... 0.99

00:48:12.000 I played it because I do a little podcast on Man Dance with my buddy Chris Curtis. 0.99

00:48:16.000 You know, I like to have a black guy on my podcast.

00:48:18.000 Makes you look a little bit more wholesome.

00:48:20.000 And Kurt never seen it, too.

00:48:21.000 And I'm like, Kurt, you know, as a black man, let's...

00:48:23.000 Did he say this when he was fighting in China?

00:48:25.000 He was fighting in China. 1.00

00:48:26.000 But, like, that level, like, I always call him China's little slut. 1.00

00:48:30.000 Oh, Jesus. 1.00

00:48:30.000 Because, like, dude, I mean, could you picture... 1.00

00:48:32.000 Like, here's the thing, you guys.

00:48:34.000 We have all done things. 0.98

00:48:35.000 We have all been a whore to somebody. 0.94

00:48:37.000 We have all been friends with somebody we shouldn't have been friends with. 0.98

00:48:40.000 We have all been buddies because maybe he could plug me into this.

00:48:43.000 Maybe he could give me a dollar.

00:48:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:48:45.000 But, like, that level of fucking being a slut, dude. 1.00

00:48:48.000 Like, my God, how do you... 1.00

00:48:50.000 And then later on in life, they called him out for it.

00:48:52.000 They called him out for it. 0.99

00:48:54.000 He was like, because they're fucking paying me, that's why. 1.00

00:48:57.000 And, like, dude, then it makes you even a bear whore. 1.00

00:49:00.000 Now you're like, now you're getting defensive. 0.99

00:49:02.000 Like, oh yeah, no, I can't stand it.

00:49:03.000 And then he's like the video of him jerking his dog off.

00:49:05.000 You see that?

00:49:06.000 What?

00:49:07.000 Yeah, how do you not watch it, bro?

00:49:09.000 I don't sit around watching people jerk their dogs off, ever. 0.91

00:49:12.000 If there's a video of you jerking your dog off, I wouldn't watch it. 1.00

00:49:15.000 Dude, there's a video of him like fucking jerking his dog off. 1.00

00:49:18.000 I'm not fucking sure Jamie's seen it, man. 1.00

00:49:20.000 Jamie has not seen it. 0.98

00:49:21.000 I can guarantee you he would have told me about it.

00:49:23.000 I'm looking for this quote.

00:49:25.000 When I typed it in, it's bringing up stuff because he fought in China.

00:49:28.000 He was saying something about it.

00:49:28.000 Yeah, you just type it.

00:49:29.000 It comes up as a short, a YouTube short, like Izzy's cringe moment. 1.00

00:49:33.000 And there's also a video of him jerking off his dog, and like, dude, the guy is a fucking... 1.00

00:49:38.000 Oh, man. 1.00

00:49:39.000 And the fucking nail polish. 1.00

00:49:41.000 God, Izzy just fucking sucks, you guys. 1.00

00:49:43.000 We need to bring back the old... 1.00

00:49:44.000 Anderson Silva, dude, come back.

00:49:46.000 Come back, Anderson.

00:49:47.000 Come back. 1.00

00:49:48.000 But you've got to admit the dude is talented as fuck. 1.00

00:49:50.000 Oh, the dude can fucking fight, man. 1.00

00:49:52.000 People always say, like, why do you talk shit on Izzy? 1.00

00:49:53.000 Like, I never say the guy can't fight. 0.98

00:49:56.000 I'm not sitting here saying Izzy's not a champion.

00:49:57.000 I'm not sitting here saying Izzy might not be one of the best kickboxers in the world. 0.99

00:50:01.000 I'm saying that Izzy is China's slut. 1.00

00:50:03.000 If he was in prison, he would turn you out. 1.00

00:50:05.000 He would turn you in.

00:50:06.000 Like, he would sell you out.

00:50:08.000 Yeah.

00:50:09.000 Like, there is not...

00:50:10.000 The character of Izzy is so, so low.

00:50:14.000 And this is coming from me, you guys. 0.99

00:50:15.000 I just told you how fucking, you know, at least my mom and dad have sex while I thought she was going to die. 1.00

00:50:20.000 So this is coming from, like, I'm an expert on, like, shitty people. 1.00

00:50:24.000 Right? 0.97

00:50:25.000 And Izzy, man. 0.57

00:50:27.000 China's... 0.55

00:50:27.000 And then the thing with the Drakus. 0.55

00:50:29.000 Remember when he got all mad at Drakus?

00:50:30.000 Because Drakus talked about being African?

00:50:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:33.000 Like, motherfucker, you aren't African. 1.00

00:50:35.000 You are Chinese. 1.00

00:50:36.000 Your words, quote for quote. 1.00

00:50:39.000 Dreykus has lived in Africa his entire fucking life. 0.99

00:50:42.000 He never woke up one day and says, you know what? 0.99

00:50:43.000 China's giving me money.

00:50:44.000 I'm Chinese now. 0.99

00:50:46.000 If I ever fight Izzy, I'm going to go get a little Chinese flag that says slut on it. 1.00

00:50:54.000 And I'll bring it to the weigh-in for you guys. 0.99

00:50:56.000 And I'll hand him his little Chinese flag that says slut just for Izzy. 1.00

00:51:00.000 Is this talking shit about him like this? 1.00

00:51:03.000 Could this possibly fuck it up? 0.99

00:51:04.000 No, I mean, I don't fucking know. 1.00

00:51:08.000 I mean, wouldn't you want to hit the guy that says that you're a fucking jerk your dog off? 1.00

00:51:13.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:51:14.000 First of all, I didn't say he jerked his dog off.

00:51:16.000 He jerked his dog off.

00:51:17.000 I'm just reiterating the video.

00:51:20.000 Okay.

00:51:21.000 Yeah.

00:51:21.000 Man, you gotta see this, bro.

00:51:22.000 I don't have to see it.

00:51:24.000 Oh, it's great. 0.95

00:51:25.000 Don't ever want to see a dog get jerked off. 0.95

00:51:26.000 I got a picture. 0.82

00:51:27.000 I got a picture. 0.99

00:51:28.000 So, Izzy, tell me about your win as you take a couple of step backs and you're gonna be thinking about jerking his dog off the whole fucking time. 1.00

00:51:35.000 That's why I don't want to see it. 0.98

00:51:37.000 But yeah, no, guy's a great fighter. 0.97

00:51:39.000 Fucking hands down, great fighter. 0.99

00:51:40.000 Elite. 1.00

00:51:40.000 That win over Pajera. 1.00

00:51:42.000 That was fucking crazy. 0.99

00:51:43.000 But you know, man, he's also genetically so advantaged. 1.00

00:51:46.000 Like, if Izzy was a normal-sized motherfucker, I'd walk through him. 0.98

00:51:50.000 The only reason why it'd be a tough fight is because he's 6'4", 6'3", 80 plus inch reach. 0.99

00:51:56.000 There's nothing wrong with that. 0.93

00:51:58.000 But also super fucking talented. 0.97

00:52:00.000 There's a lot of tall guys. 0.97

00:52:03.000 At middleweight, there's not many guys with his stature.

00:52:06.000 How tall was Magomedov?

00:52:09.000 Not even close, like a 76, 77 inch reach, 78 inch reach. 0.96

00:52:13.000 I mean, we're talking about like NBA level 6'3", like getting past five, six inches of reach is a hard fucking thing to do. 0.99

00:52:22.000 Hard fucking thing to do. 0.97

00:52:23.000 Well, I was always, what is this, culture and protocol? 0.99

00:52:27.000 Oh, no, you gotta do that.

00:52:30.000 It's a short, bro. 0.99

00:52:31.000 Go black. 1.00

00:52:32.000 Well, this one isn't short. 0.95

00:52:33.000 This is a little longer, but...

00:52:34.000 But it's on, like, the main.

00:52:35.000 If you just click on...

00:52:36.000 Ni hao. 0.99

00:52:37.000 I am the Black Dragon.

00:52:39.000 I was born in Nigeria.

00:52:41.000 I grew up in New Zealand, but I have lived in China, so I've embraced the Chinese...

00:52:44.000 No, bro, this is...

00:52:46.000 My teacher, Sifu Lingzhenchuan, comes from China, and he has been teaching Chinese Kung Fu in New Zealand for almost 50 years.

00:53:00.000 I've known Sifu Lin since I was a teenager.

00:53:03.000 You're giving this man too much.

00:53:05.000 Izzy, I am Chinese.

00:53:07.000 What are you thinking?

00:53:09.000 I'm a black man.

00:53:10.000 Put it in the microphone so we can hear it.

00:53:13.000 Come on, please, look at my heart.

00:53:15.000 Take a look at me.

00:53:17.000 What are you thinking? 0.80

00:53:18.000 I'm a black man?

00:53:20.000 I'm from Africa?

00:53:22.000 Come on, please, look at my heart.

00:53:24.000 Haven't you seen it yet?

00:53:26.000 Wait a second.

00:53:29.000 Pulls the flag out.

00:53:31.000 Yes.

00:53:32.000 I'm a Chinese.

00:53:33.000 I have a Chinese heart.

00:53:35.000 He has a Chinese heart.

00:53:36.000 Yes, I am Chinese.

00:53:37.000 I have a Chinese heart. 1.00

00:53:38.000 But what I'm saying, dude, that level, like China's a little slut, you guys. 1.00

00:53:41.000 That fight needs to happen, you guys. 0.99

00:53:42.000 And I'll do you guys a favor. 0.99

00:53:44.000 I'll bring a little Chinese flag and I'll write a slut on it just so he can wave it like he did when he was getting money from him. 1.00

00:53:52.000 Oh, boy. 0.99

00:53:53.000 Like, even me. 1.00

00:53:53.000 I always joke about, like, dude, fuck China. 1.00

00:53:55.000 Like, fuck China. 1.00

00:53:56.000 Oh, God, I'm going to get kicked out of the UFC now. 1.00

00:53:58.000 Is that my phone going off?

00:53:59.000 I think so.

00:54:00.000 You're playing new videos. 1.00

00:54:01.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:54:04.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:54:05.000 That's what you get for using an Android. 1.00

00:54:06.000 Yeah, fuck, man. 1.00

00:54:07.000 Freedom. 1.00

00:54:07.000 Those fucking things just go off. 1.00

00:54:08.000 But yeah, no, man. 1.00

00:54:09.000 Fucking China, dude. 1.00

00:54:10.000 How do you even... 1.00

00:54:11.000 After that fucking... 1.00

00:54:12.000 How do you even... 1.00

00:54:13.000 Well, this was a long time ago, wasn't it? 1.00

00:54:15.000 Yeah, I guess this was before they were fucking locking Muslims up. 0.99

00:54:20.000 We didn't have this thought about China. 0.99

00:54:22.000 I didn't even think about China 10 years ago.

00:54:24.000 China was just like, oh, they make stuff over there. 1.00

00:54:26.000 China's the fucking enemy, dude. 1.00

00:54:27.000 Well, it's a sketchy part of the world because they have an authoritarian government that controls all their corporations. 1.00

00:54:34.000 And that's what America wants.

00:54:36.000 They see that and they want that social credit score system.

00:54:40.000 They want the centralized digital currencies so they can control what you buy.

00:54:44.000 It's actually kind of funny, dude. 1.00

00:54:45.000 I talk so much shit on Muslims, guys. 1.00

00:54:47.000 I can't help it. 1.00

00:54:48.000 I just talk shit on everybody. 1.00

00:54:50.000 I talk shit on Jews. 1.00

00:54:51.000 I talk shit on Christians. 1.00

00:54:52.000 But at no point is a Jew coming up to me. 1.00

00:54:54.000 At no point, dude. 1.00

00:54:55.000 I talk shit on Jews all the time. 1.00

00:54:57.000 At no point am I opening up my inbox and I'm seeing a Palestine flag talking about fucking cutting my head off. 1.00

00:55:03.000 Muslims, all the fucking time. 1.00

00:55:04.000 All the fucking time. 1.00

00:55:05.000 Every time I fight a Muslim, dude, it's like, you guys should see my inbox, man. 1.00

00:55:09.000 It's fucking spooky. 0.99

00:55:11.000 Do you read that stuff? 0.99

00:55:13.000 I'll skim through every blue moon just to laugh.

00:55:15.000 I mean, I carry a gun on me. 1.00

00:55:16.000 I want to kill a motherfucker. 1.00

00:55:17.000 Just make my day, motherfuckers. 1.00

00:55:19.000 Jesus Christ, John. 1.00

00:55:22.000 The UFC is going to have the hardest time taking clips out of this one.

00:55:26.000 You know, because sometimes they take clips out of fighters' interviews and they make promos. 0.98

00:55:31.000 This one, good fucking luck, kids. 1.00

00:55:33.000 Yeah, fuck, man. 1.00

00:55:33.000 All those guys working for the UFC, I salute you. 1.00

00:55:36.000 Bro, they had to cut my last press conference.

00:55:39.000 They edited it out.

00:55:41.000 I started talking about that girl that, like, say my name, I remember your name.

00:55:45.000 What are you talking about? 0.99

00:55:46.000 And then the girl that died, dude, and everybody fucking posted a fucking picture of her. 1.00

00:55:51.000 God, dude, aren't you like a fucking guy? 1.00

00:55:54.000 This is your guy. 1.00

00:55:55.000 You're right.

00:55:55.000 I'm just trying to remember what you're saying.

00:55:56.000 So, she died.

00:55:58.000 Amateur girl. 1.00

00:55:59.000 Really shitty amateur fighter. 1.00

00:56:00.000 She died. 0.98

00:56:01.000 The letter got put to Dana, and Dana posted her and says, I know your name.

00:56:05.000 Because in the journal diary, the thing says, I know your name.

00:56:10.000 Who is this girl? 0.99

00:56:12.000 Do you wear this, Jamie?

00:56:14.000 Oh, this is a girl.

00:56:16.000 No, no, that's not her.

00:56:17.000 Dana White posted about it.

00:56:19.000 Oh, okay. 0.99

00:56:20.000 But anyways, so it was a big fucking thing, and I kind of went hard on the Instagram, and I got a lot of shit for it. 0.98

00:56:27.000 So, someone, yeah. 0.99

00:56:32.000 How did she die?

00:56:33.000 I think a car accident.

00:56:36.000 But again, someone brought it up in the press conference.

00:56:38.000 I'm like a pseudo-comedian.

00:56:41.000 I'm not quite funny, but I'm there.

00:56:42.000 I'm almost there. 0.97

00:56:44.000 So every time I make a really good point, I gotta fucking ruin it. 0.99

00:56:49.000 I gotta fucking ruin it. 0.99

00:56:53.000 But again, I don't want to be a fucking politician. 0.99

00:56:56.000 I don't want to be a philosopher. 1.00

00:56:57.000 I'm a fucking comedian that hits people. 0.99

00:56:59.000 So, like, you know, what Dana White did was fucking great, dude. 0.99

00:57:03.000 Like, I think that's awesome, man. 0.99

00:57:04.000 He fucking, you know, someone showed him the journal, and he's like, you know, fucking, I'm Dana White, I know your name, you know, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

00:57:11.000 But then you had these fucking bandwagon motherfuckers, dude. 1.00

00:57:14.000 You had like Joaquin Buckley, just the little, the cringe lord he is. 1.00

00:57:19.000 Joaquin Buckley, dude. 0.98

00:57:20.000 That guy's Instagram is fucking rough, dude. 0.99

00:57:22.000 I like Joaquin Buckley. 0.99

00:57:23.000 I actually want to hang out with him on Saturday.

00:57:24.000 I like him a lot. 0.99

00:57:25.000 I'm going to hang out with him on Saturday, but man, every time I see his Instagram, it makes me want to fucking fight him. 1.00

00:57:31.000 He's just a cringy motherfucker, dude. 1.00

00:57:33.000 Go look at Joaquin's Buckley. 1.00

00:57:34.000 You'll know what I'm talking about. 1.00

00:57:36.000 So, you know, that little fucking attention whore he is, little Buckley. 1.00

00:57:41.000 Cool little kick. 1.00

00:57:42.000 Jesus Christ, Sean. 1.00

00:57:43.000 And the same thing with fucking Stephen Bonner, bro. 1.00

00:57:46.000 You got these fucking sluts, bro. 1.00

00:57:47.000 You got these sluts that just, like, they want to be, like, different than... 1.00

00:57:51.000 So he posts a picture of her, and I'm like, oh, goddammit, dude. 1.00

00:57:55.000 Don't do it, Sean.

00:57:56.000 Don't bring this up. 1.00

00:57:57.000 Don't bring this shit up. 1.00

00:57:58.000 And you did. 1.00

00:57:59.000 And then I brought it up.

00:58:00.000 And I was like, guys, at the end of the day, dude, she's a hot, young, white woman. 1.00

00:58:05.000 That's the only fucking reason why. 0.99

00:58:07.000 And she's fucking trending. 1.00

00:58:08.000 No one gives a fuck about her. 1.00

00:58:10.000 Dana White, again, applaud to Dana White. 0.99

00:58:13.000 That was a message directly to you. 1.00

00:58:16.000 But all you of the fighters hitting the repost button, this and that, you guys are just fucking fags. 1.00

00:58:20.000 You literally guys are just doing it for attention. 1.00

00:58:23.000 There's a lot of that.

00:58:24.000 There's a lot of things that people do with a virtue signal.

00:58:26.000 There was a Brazilian fighter. 1.00

00:58:28.000 And mind you guys, I'm a piece of shit. 1.00

00:58:30.000 I mean, I'm just telling you how I try to fucking kill my dad. 1.00

00:58:32.000 I'm like, my brain doesn't work right. 0.99

00:58:35.000 But this Brazilian fighter died not so long and got hit by a bus.

00:58:38.000 Ex-UFC fighter. 0.99

00:58:40.000 And my first thought, when someone told me, I was like, oh, fuck, man, he can't dodge a bus, can't fucking, can't dodge a punch, right? 0.99

00:58:46.000 That's why he's not in UFC anymore. 0.99

00:58:48.000 Mind you guys, I've been hit by a truck. 0.77

00:58:50.000 I almost fucking died once. 0.99

00:58:51.000 So, you know, it's like, you know, it's like I have a black best friend here. 0.99

00:58:54.000 Like, I've been there, you guys. 0.98

00:58:56.000 It almost fucking happened to me.

00:58:58.000 But that was my first response was like, but why is this man not trending? 0.99

00:59:03.000 This man probably left a family.

00:59:05.000 He probably, you know, he left a life. 1.00

00:59:07.000 He's not trending because he's a dirty fucking Brazilian and no one gives a fuck about him. 1.00

00:59:12.000 If you were a hot young white woman, you motherfucker would be trending. 1.00

00:59:17.000 You would be on ESPN. 1.00

00:59:19.000 Our beloved ex-UFC fighter died.

00:59:22.000 And it's just like, man, we just live in this fake world.

00:59:25.000 It's so fake.

00:59:26.000 But that is a problem with social media, is that people have this opportunity to try to portray a version of themselves that might not be honest.

00:59:34.000 Oh, it's so fake.

00:59:34.000 Or like when Stefan Bonner died.

00:59:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:59:37.000 That motherfucker was gone, dude. 1.00

00:59:39.000 I mean, I had a talk with Forrest, and Forrest kind of reprimanded me about it. 1.00

00:59:44.000 Because, you know, rightly so, you guys. 1.00

00:59:45.000 I'm an asshole. 1.00

00:59:46.000 I say things that are way off the cusp. 1.00

00:59:48.000 There might be, like, an ounce of truth to it, but 90% of it's bullshit. 0.99

00:59:52.000 Right. 0.99

00:59:54.000 So, Stephen Bonner added me on Instagram. 1.00

00:59:56.000 I'm like, oh shit, Stephen Bonner, I'm a fucking fanboy. 0.99

00:59:58.000 I'm gonna fucking add him back. 1.00

01:00:00.000 And then he would post shit, send me messages, and I'd block him right out of the back. 1.00

01:00:03.000 I'm like, you're fucking nuts, dude. 1.00

01:00:04.000 You're a fucking pill addict. 1.00

01:00:05.000 I want nothing to fucking do with you. 1.00

01:00:08.000 What was he sending me messages about? 1.00

01:00:09.000 Just crazy.

01:00:14.000 He's a libertarian dude, but a lot of it just like, you know... 1.00

01:00:18.000 Like, just fucking nuts, bro. 0.99

01:00:20.000 Like, his gym closed down and turned COVID nuts. 1.00

01:00:22.000 But, and this is another thing I got shit on. 1.00

01:00:24.000 And I was the only one that was like, fuck Stephen Barnard, man. 1.00

01:00:27.000 That guy was fucking nuts. 1.00

01:00:28.000 He was a fucking drug addict. 1.00

01:00:29.000 Like, I don't give a fuck about him. 1.00

01:00:30.000 Like, I didn't go and fucking force the oxys down his throat. 1.00

01:00:33.000 I didn't fucking make him OD. So everybody got me shit on that, and they all posted about it. 1.00

01:00:37.000 And I'm like, listen, I didn't like the guy, and I blocked him. 0.97

01:00:41.000 But where were you guys when his life was falling apart?

01:00:45.000 Where were you guys when he was publicly saying, my gym is failing, I can't keep the doors open, they're locking me out. 0.99

01:00:54.000 Where the fuck were you guys? 0.99

01:00:55.000 You guys weren't fucking anywhere. 1.00

01:00:57.000 You don't give a fuck about him. 1.00

01:00:58.000 You never gave a fuck about him. 1.00

01:00:59.000 And then when he dies, this is an opportunity to say you miss him. 0.99

01:01:02.000 And I'm not going to say names or anything, but I've had conversations with people. 0.99

01:01:09.000 They didn't joke about it, but it was like, yeah, that guy was fucking nuts. 0.99

01:01:12.000 And yet they're posting something. 0.99

01:01:13.000 It's just fake, dude. 0.99

01:01:15.000 If you're going to joke about his crazy ass dying and him being a pill addict, then you go and post about like, oh yeah, Stefan Bonner, he was a great guy. 1.00

01:01:24.000 No, motherfucker, he was a fucking pill addict. 1.00

01:01:26.000 You all knew, we all fucking knew, there were so many people involved in his life that could have stepped in. 1.00

01:01:32.000 And I don't think you should have. 0.97

01:01:33.000 I've dealt with pill addicts my whole life.

01:01:35.000 I think you should have thrown some oxys and be like, huzzah, man, enjoy.

01:01:38.000 I ran into him when he was sober.

01:01:39.000 I ran into him when he had cleaned himself up.

01:01:41.000 I was in Salt Lake City about a year and a half ago.

01:01:45.000 He went through a stretch that he was clean.

01:01:47.000 And I was doing a show out there and he came to the show and he came and he brought this stem cell doctor who runs this Utah stem cell clinic and he was clear eyed and we had a fun talk.

01:01:59.000 It was cool.

01:01:59.000 Well that's what Forrest said too.

01:02:00.000 That's what Forrest said too.

01:02:01.000 And I told Forrest, I'm like, Forrest, I'm just telling you dude, I've been, I mean, I was watching my dad snort oxys off the kitchen table when I was in elementary school.

01:02:09.000 Like, I know drug addicts. 1.00

01:02:10.000 The guy's a fucking drug addict. 1.00

01:02:12.000 And I was like, and I'm not saying Forrest is a stand-up guy. 1.00

01:02:15.000 I think Forrest did reach his hand out in multiple times to help him.

01:02:18.000 But, you know, people are involved, dude.

01:02:21.000 Like, imagine, like, your closest friend, like, if they were, like, addicted to drugs.

01:02:25.000 You'd be like, you'd be involved.

01:02:27.000 Like Chris Curtis, man.

01:02:27.000 Chris Curtis has a little white baby on the way.

01:02:29.000 You know, a little mixed breed. 1.00

01:02:31.000 Chris Curtis, I'm proud of you, man. 0.99

01:02:32.000 You fucking making that money. 1.00

01:02:33.000 Got your white wife. 1.00

01:02:34.000 I'm happy for you.

01:02:35.000 We have a podcast together.

01:02:36.000 It's nice.

01:02:37.000 But if right now, like, if Kurt was addicted to Oxy...

01:02:41.000 You would help him. 0.99

01:02:42.000 I'd fucking help him without a doubt. 0.98

01:02:43.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:02:44.000 I would help him.

01:02:45.000 Maybe he just didn't have someone like that in his life. 0.97

01:02:47.000 And also, sometimes those guys, they burn so many bridges that by the time the shit goes sideways, they don't have anybody that's going to stick their neck out for them. 0.97

01:02:55.000 That's why we talk about it in Segway to homeless people. 0.99

01:02:57.000 People are like, oh man, I won't give a dime to a fucking homeless person, dude. 1.00

01:03:01.000 You go fucking be homeless, go drink the sewer water. 1.00

01:03:03.000 Because you've got to think about me, piece of shit. 1.00

01:03:06.000 But there was always someone in my life that was like, hey, you can sleep on my couch for a weekend. 1.00

01:03:10.000 You can sleep on my couch for a week.

01:03:11.000 Come train here.

01:03:12.000 Sleep on my couch. 1.00

01:03:13.000 Like, if you're such a big piece of shit to where, like, there's not one person, you can't call one person and be like, hey. 1.00

01:03:21.000 Yeah, but it's like you're saying that because you knew people from training, people that knew you, and you could sleep on the couch. 1.00

01:03:28.000 There's some people that never have that.

01:03:29.000 They never find a thing.

01:03:31.000 They never have anybody in their life that's any good.

01:03:33.000 There's circumstances involved.

01:03:35.000 I see what you're saying.

01:03:36.000 But there are circumstances involved with some people where they just never get a break.

01:03:41.000 Look, I got better breaks than you did, but you got better breaks than some homeless guy did.

01:03:46.000 Okay, to that point, my family home, my mom lives in Fallbrook, California.

01:03:51.000 It's a very...

01:03:53.000 It's a migrant. 0.99

01:03:54.000 Migrant community.

01:03:56.000 There's this guy named Juan. 1.00

01:03:58.000 Fucking Juan, man. 1.00

01:03:59.000 The guy can't even read or write. 1.00

01:04:02.000 He's a migrant worker.

01:04:05.000 And man, he raised a family.

01:04:08.000 Right. 1.00

01:04:08.000 He works his fucking ass off. 1.00

01:04:09.000 Like, what I'm saying is you have this Mexican guy that comes across the border legally. 1.00

01:04:13.000 No license, no anything.

01:04:15.000 Can't read or write. 1.00

01:04:17.000 And this motherfucker is raising a family... 1.00

01:04:21.000 A successful family. 1.00

01:04:23.000 I think only one kid is an American citizen.

01:04:26.000 But raising a successful family.

01:04:28.000 So it's so hard for me, man.

01:04:29.000 It's America, dude.

01:04:30.000 I know what you're saying.

01:04:31.000 It's hard, bro.

01:04:32.000 I know what you're saying, but you've got to recognize that some people have way worse circumstances, even than you.

01:04:38.000 Even than me? 1.00

01:04:39.000 Fuck yeah, dude. 1.00

01:04:39.000 I know girls have been fucked by their dad their whole life. 1.00

01:04:43.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

01:04:45.000 And some of my friends, bro, at Disneyland. 0.99

01:04:48.000 I met a guy in South Africa who had to fucking kill his mom. 1.00

01:04:51.000 Like, crazy. 1.00

01:04:53.000 I'm fucking Disneyland. 0.99

01:04:55.000 That's why I can laugh and joke at it. 0.99

01:04:57.000 I think about this guy. 1.00

01:04:58.000 Every time I feel like a bitch, you guys, every time I feel like a fucking pussy, I look in the mirror and I think about my buddy in Africa who had to smoke his mom. 1.00

01:05:05.000 Why do you have to smoke his mom? 1.00

01:05:06.000 So, again, what they do is they'll come into your village or wherever the fuck you're from, and they want to brainwash you. 0.99

01:05:17.000 And what's the best way of doing that? 1.00

01:05:19.000 By having you do something so fucked up. 0.99

01:05:22.000 And then if they could get you to do that, then you're pliable. 0.99

01:05:25.000 Then they could give you drugs, and they could make you into a rebel.

01:05:31.000 I don't think it's like that. 1.00

01:05:33.000 I think the mom is kind of like, if you don't do it, they're going to fucking kill you too. 0.99

01:05:39.000 The mom is probably encouraging him to fucking... 1.00

01:05:41.000 Oh, Jesus Christ. 1.00

01:05:43.000 So what I'm saying, you guys, I tell myself that story once a week at least. 1.00

01:05:47.000 And I'm like, dude, don't be a pussy. 1.00

01:05:50.000 Wow. 1.00

01:05:51.000 But, you know, sometimes, like, it's kind of interesting.

01:05:53.000 I was telling you about security team.

01:05:54.000 By the way, Joe has a pretty solid-ass security team. 1.00

01:05:56.000 You guys don't want to come fuck with this guy. 1.00

01:05:59.000 All like Navy SEALs, Special Forces and shit. 1.00

01:06:01.000 It's a little overkill, fucking Joe. 1.00

01:06:04.000 Not really. 1.00

01:06:05.000 Fucking more than Biden over here. 0.99

01:06:07.000 No, it's not more than Biden and not overkill. 0.99

01:06:09.000 I could tell you some stories.

01:06:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:06:11.000 I would imagine, dude.

01:06:12.000 I would imagine.

01:06:13.000 But, you know, man, every now and then, again, this has nothing to do with that guy.

01:06:16.000 He was a saint. 0.99

01:06:17.000 But you got to do some bad shit, though. 1.00

01:06:20.000 Like, I was telling your security team, because, you know, I'm sure they've all done some bad shit. 1.00

01:06:25.000 Like, my buddy Chris Curtis, so irrelevant, but it's a funny story. 0.98

01:06:29.000 This construction worker comes to the gym.

01:06:31.000 And it's on YouTube.

01:06:32.000 It's on Instagram.

01:06:33.000 He comes to the gym.

01:06:34.000 And then Kurt's like, I'm like, Kurt, you should let me spar him.

01:06:38.000 You should let me do the work.

01:06:39.000 And Kurt's like, no, I want to do it.

01:06:40.000 I want to do it.

01:06:41.000 So Kurt's being so nice, pulling head kicks and just hits him with a body shot and he falls and he stops. 1.00

01:06:47.000 I'm like, Kurt, you're such a fucking bitch, dude. 1.00

01:06:49.000 You're such a fucking bitch. 1.00

01:06:50.000 Pussy. 1.00

01:06:51.000 So afterwards, he's like, Sean, like, he has a family. 1.00

01:06:53.000 Like, he has a family.

01:06:54.000 Like, I'm not going to take this man out of work.

01:06:57.000 Like, he just doesn't know.

01:06:59.000 So afterwards, the guy says something to Kurt, like, like, oh, man, if I was more in shape, I could have did better with you or something. 0.67

01:07:07.000 And then Kurt goes straight angry black guy. 1.00

01:07:09.000 Kurt's like the whitest man you ever know, but the moment he gets angry, bro, it's like full fucking ebonics, angry fucking black man. 1.00

01:07:15.000 And I'm like, Kurt, you had your chance. 1.00

01:07:18.000 Like, you gotta stop, dude.

01:07:19.000 He's like trying to fight him now in the park, in the gym.

01:07:21.000 I'm like, dude, you had your chance.

01:07:22.000 Oh, so the guy was saying to him... 1.00

01:07:23.000 Yeah, and then all of a sudden, Kurt just goes like straight angry black guy, and he's like, fuck that whole... 1.00

01:07:27.000 And we're all holding Kurt back. 0.99

01:07:29.000 And I'm like, Kurt, you had your chance. 1.00

01:07:31.000 And sometimes, dude, like, you just gotta be comfortable doing fucked up shit. 0.99

01:07:35.000 Like, there's probably nothing I could do where I would, like, lose sleep at night. 0.99

01:07:38.000 Nothing.

01:07:39.000 Nothing.

01:07:40.000 Sociopathic. 0.92

01:07:40.000 No, I mean, maybe like killing a family member or something. 0.92

01:07:44.000 I kind of want to find out. 0.67

01:07:46.000 I'd kind of be curious.

01:07:48.000 There's a part of me that I would never want to do it, but is there something I can do that would...

01:07:54.000 Making me say, oh man, I don't like myself.

01:07:56.000 Well, you're lucky you're in the right business.

01:07:59.000 But you know what I'm saying? 0.97

01:08:00.000 If Kurt, what I told Kurt, like if it was me, I would have fucking, oh, I would have fucking starched that guy as he's falling. 1.00

01:08:05.000 I would have dropped a fucking people's elbow on his ass. 1.00

01:08:08.000 But like, man, like you just gotta, you gotta push this, like gotta fuck a fat chick every now and then, you know? 1.00

01:08:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:08:17.000 You're so lucky you found fighting.

01:08:20.000 It's so hilarious. 1.00

01:08:22.000 You're going to look back on this conversation someday and go, God damn, when I was 34, I was out of my fucking mind. 0.99

01:08:27.000 No, dude, I think I'm going to be this way. 0.99

01:08:30.000 You think so?

01:08:30.000 Have you ever done something really bad?

01:08:32.000 Like, really bad, really fucked up. 0.98

01:08:33.000 Not really. 0.99

01:08:34.000 Nothing?

01:08:34.000 No, nothing like that.

01:08:36.000 Nothing where I lose sleep over it.

01:08:38.000 I've done things where I should have lost.

01:08:42.000 That's the problem.

01:08:43.000 But there is this moment where I'm like, man, I'm kind of curious.

01:08:47.000 I wish I could just do something super, super heinous.

01:08:50.000 Just to see how you react to it.

01:08:52.000 Just to see if I feel bad.

01:08:53.000 Yeah, don't do that.

01:08:55.000 Don't do that. 0.96

01:08:56.000 It'll be fucked up if this conversation comes out after you've done something really bad. 0.98

01:09:00.000 No, I live in the straight and narrow. 0.99

01:09:01.000 Maybe it's some shit in the past, but yeah, I live in the straight and narrow now. 0.98

01:09:03.000 That's what I'm saying. 0.99

01:09:04.000 So embrace that.

01:09:05.000 Don't be thinking about this.

01:09:07.000 Don't even entertain those thoughts. 0.99

01:09:08.000 You know what I fucking did after my fight? 1.00

01:09:10.000 I didn't go chase pussy. 1.00

01:09:11.000 I went fucking hat in and out with my girlfriend and watched a fucking baking championship after my last fight. 1.00

01:09:16.000 A what championship? 1.00

01:09:17.000 A baking championship.

01:09:18.000 Really? 1.00

01:09:18.000 I watch a fucking baking fucking cook-off with my girlfriend, guys. 1.00

01:09:21.000 That's perfect. 1.00

01:09:22.000 I'm fucking boring. 1.00

01:09:23.000 I don't do shit, you guys. 1.00

01:09:24.000 Well, that's whatever... 0.99

01:09:25.000 You probably have no energy after training. 0.96

01:09:28.000 No, I'm fucking right as Ryan, dude. 0.98

01:09:29.000 Are you kidding me? 0.97

01:09:30.000 No, I like...

01:09:30.000 Boredom is my Achilles heels, dude.

01:09:33.000 Like...

01:09:35.000 And that's why I get this voice in my head, dude.

01:09:38.000 And you see my press conferences.

01:09:39.000 I get this voice in my head.

01:09:41.000 And I think it's like, I think the clinical term, it's like antisocial personality, conduct disorder.

01:09:48.000 So when you're a kid, you have conduct disorder, then it spirals in like antisocial personality disorder.

01:09:53.000 And it's like it's borderline sociopathic.

01:09:56.000 But one of the big traits is self-control. 0.99

01:09:59.000 I fucking know self-control, dude. 0.98

01:10:01.000 Well, that's also a factor of getting hit in the head a lot. 0.99

01:10:04.000 But it was like that when I was a kid. 0.97

01:10:05.000 I get this voice in my head, and it tells me to fucking do something, and then it just sits there, and I'm like, I'm doing it. 0.96

01:10:11.000 I'm fucking doing it. 0.98

01:10:12.000 I'm still in this car. 0.99

01:10:12.000 I'm doing it. 0.99

01:10:13.000 Growing up with no guidance. 1.00

01:10:15.000 Growing up with fucked up family. 1.00

01:10:17.000 Growing up with fucked up circumstances. 1.00

01:10:19.000 Dude, I isolate myself. 0.98

01:10:20.000 People are like, oh yeah, Sean, do you want to go hang out?

01:10:23.000 Go to Washington? 0.99

01:10:24.000 No, fuck no, I don't. 1.00

01:10:25.000 I want to sit at home, maybe play a video game, get good food. 0.99

01:10:28.000 That's good, though.

01:10:29.000 That's good that you recognize that. 0.98

01:10:30.000 That you don't want to put yourself in a situation where you can fuck your whole life up. 0.99

01:10:33.000 I can't say fucking no to anything. 0.98

01:10:36.000 Well, your life is going so well right now, too. 1.00

01:10:39.000 It would be a fucking horrible shame if you fucked it up. 1.00

01:10:41.000 Yeah, fuck, man. 1.00

01:10:42.000 Because you gave in to the demons. 1.00

01:10:43.000 Yeah, demons. 1.00

01:10:44.000 Me and my demons are fucking buddies, dude. 0.99

01:10:46.000 I always say, dude, I always say, like, and this is, I'm not religious, obviously, but if God and the devil were real, the only person who's ever been there for me has been the devil. 0.99

01:10:58.000 100%.

01:10:58.000 Out of my back 24-7.

01:11:00.000 Yeah.

01:11:04.000 24-7.

01:11:05.000 But it's true.

01:11:05.000 You're gonna get a bunch of DMs from Satanists now.

01:11:08.000 But it's true.

01:11:09.000 Like, but you gotta think about it.

01:11:09.000 Like, evil deeds have been my friend.

01:11:13.000 Like, when I was, again, when I was a kid and I had to do fucked up shit, hit my dad with a guitar, like, I had to, like, you know, become a sociopath. 0.99

01:11:20.000 I had to, like, turn, shut, sworn, dirty, man. 1.00

01:11:23.000 The devil, man. 0.99

01:11:24.000 24-7, have my back.

01:11:26.000 24-7 made me have moral fluidity. 0.89

01:11:29.000 I can do bad things now and not feel fucking terrible about it.

01:11:34.000 Are you happy with that, though? 0.76

01:11:36.000 Do you like that?

01:11:36.000 Or do you wish you were a better person?

01:11:38.000 Do you know what it is, dude?

01:11:39.000 Again, I'm not a bad person.

01:11:41.000 For the most part, I hold doors for old ladies. 1.00

01:11:44.000 I'm a pretty decent human being.

01:11:46.000 It's just evolution, bro.

01:11:47.000 It's like evolution of being a sociopath.

01:11:49.000 It's a purpose.

01:11:51.000 And this is where it's hard for me to understand.

01:11:56.000 And you don't even know this until you get older, but I evolved.

01:12:01.000 My brain thought the world was different.

01:12:06.000 And then all of a sudden you become an adult and you're like, the way my brain formed and grew up isn't the way the world is. 0.95

01:12:14.000 My brain trained me that the world's brutal, it's harsh, you're a victim, you have to be a predator, you have to be a bully, you have to hurt people, you have to crave power, you have to want sex.

01:12:25.000 And then you turn to an adult and you're like, oh man, that's not how life is. 0.74

01:12:30.000 But don't you think that you continue to evolve?

01:12:33.000 If you evolve past that, don't you think you continue to evolve? 0.99

01:12:36.000 Once your base brain, like you could slowly, like you could brainwash yourself to think fucking I'm a chicken if I slowly go through the process of brainwashing myself. 0.93

01:12:46.000 But once those foundations are set, dude, it's hard to unset them. 0.94

01:12:50.000 Have you ever done psychedelics?

01:12:52.000 No, no.

01:12:53.000 Drugs scare me, dude.

01:12:54.000 Drugs do. 1.00

01:12:55.000 I mean, I'm a dick. 1.00

01:12:56.000 Like, fucking look at me, dude. 1.00

01:12:58.000 Uh-huh. 1.00

01:13:00.000 Coffees, black rifles. 1.00

01:13:01.000 Yeah, fucking you, man. 1.00

01:13:03.000 I like what you said about the... 1.00

01:13:04.000 He was telling me about the Rittenhouse thing, man.

01:13:06.000 Thanks for clearing that up.

01:13:07.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:13:08.000 I just not drink this shit. 1.00

01:13:09.000 I just not drink this shit. 1.00

01:13:09.000 Well, yeah, they got a real bad fucking rap because a lot of right-wing people did the dumb shit that left-wing people did. 1.00

01:13:16.000 They turned on them for no reason. 1.00

01:13:18.000 They were wrong.

01:13:20.000 They weren't turning their back on Rittenhouse.

01:13:22.000 They just factually said, because everyone was saying they sponsored Kyle Rittenhouse and gave him a t-shirt to wear when he got out of jail. 0.96

01:13:29.000 So that being said, dude, don't fucking trust the media, right? 0.99

01:13:32.000 Even me, I was like, fuck Black Rifle. 1.00

01:13:34.000 I even said that. 1.00

01:13:34.000 Those guys are the salt of the earth. 1.00

01:13:37.000 I had a hat from them. 0.99

01:13:38.000 They gave me a bunch of free shit once. 1.00

01:13:39.000 Now I can go back to wearing their fucking hat. 1.00

01:13:41.000 Yeah, wear their hat. 1.00

01:13:42.000 They're good dudes.

01:13:42.000 I know them very well.

01:13:44.000 Evan Hafer, I hunt with him every year.

01:13:48.000 We go elk hunting together.

01:13:49.000 He's a great guy. 0.94

01:13:50.000 From the horse's mouth itself, you guys, they didn't fucking, you know, just miscommunication. 0.78

01:13:54.000 No, they're about as right-wing and pro-America as you get. 1.00

01:13:58.000 Yeah, Kyle Riddin is a fucking dork, though, right? 1.00

01:14:00.000 I was a kid. 1.00

01:14:01.000 17-year-old kid.

01:14:02.000 Bro, that was on point, though.

01:14:03.000 Did you watch that video?

01:14:04.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:14:04.000 You want to talk about a man who fucking sits there in his underwear all day and practices reloads. 1.00

01:14:09.000 Right. 1.00

01:14:09.000 Bro, he even hit the slide. 1.00

01:14:12.000 I don't know what it's called.

01:14:13.000 You know the little butt on the AR-15 that no one even knows why it's there? 1.00

01:14:18.000 Bro, the motherfucker even hit that once he put the mat... 1.00

01:14:21.000 Fucking nuts, dude. 1.00

01:14:22.000 He knows how to use her gun. 1.00

01:14:24.000 I mean, he was being hired to go in to protect one of the businesses.

01:14:28.000 They were worried about being burnt down.

01:14:30.000 Oh, he was hired to do that?

01:14:31.000 Yeah.

01:14:31.000 It was his friends.

01:14:33.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:14:34.000 I thought he was just like a white kid that wanted to go be a hero. 1.00

01:14:36.000 No, no.

01:14:37.000 It was an Indian family that owned, I think it was a car dealership, and they were worried about their car dealership getting burnt down, so they asked him to come and help. 0.99

01:14:44.000 No shit. 0.97

01:14:45.000 So when they say, oh, he drove across state lines, yeah, he drove 15 minutes away. 1.00

01:14:49.000 It was 15 minutes away.

01:14:50.000 He drove to help his friends.

01:14:52.000 And he went there because they were worried about their businesses being looted. 0.99

01:14:55.000 You know, obviously, who the fuck is sending a 17-year-old with an AR to go and guard a business? 0.99

01:15:01.000 It sounds insane. 1.00

01:15:02.000 You watch that guy on the subway fucking choke that dude out. 0.99

01:15:06.000 Yeah, I need to see the whole video. 0.99

01:15:08.000 I need to see, like, how long he held that choke.

01:15:09.000 Because if the guy died, like, you can't hold a choke for a minute.

01:15:12.000 So, me and me, I'm the same way.

01:15:13.000 I'm generally, like, on the Republican-leaning side, where I'm like, yeah, like, you know.

01:15:18.000 I thought the cop that killed George Floyd was guilty. 1.00

01:15:22.000 I thought that, I think that, like, I think George Floyd was probably a royal fucking piece of shit. 0.99

01:15:27.000 I don't think we should put statues in his honor, but... 0.99

01:15:34.000 In your custody, in your care.

01:15:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:15:36.000 And the fact that man's like, hey, I'm fucking dying and you're just like, my wife's fucking the neighbor. 1.00

01:15:41.000 I don't care. 0.99

01:15:41.000 I'm going to hold this joke until I feel better. 0.99

01:15:43.000 Right.

01:15:43.000 So I think that guy was guilty.

01:15:45.000 But yeah, that guy on the subway, dude, 100%.

01:15:47.000 You can't like...

01:15:48.000 Yeah, but the guy was threatening people.

01:15:49.000 And the guy had a long history of assaults and crime.

01:15:51.000 But I mean, dude, you do...

01:15:52.000 Like, how long do you hold a choke to kill a man?

01:15:54.000 Well, I do jujitsu, though.

01:15:55.000 I wouldn't have done that. 0.99

01:15:57.000 Once I got the guy's back, I would have just held onto it and just not squoze his fucking neck. 1.00

01:16:03.000 I hope he gets off. 1.00

01:16:04.000 I hope he gets off.

01:16:05.000 But I don't know what happened.

01:16:07.000 Did the guy die from asphyxiation, or did the guy have a heart attack because he was on drugs?

01:16:12.000 Because this was the thing that they said about George Floyd, is that he was going to die of a fentanyl overdose anyway.

01:16:17.000 I don't know if that's true, but I don't know what the case is with this guy, but I do know that there was another guy who was holding him down that was a black guy that they conveniently left out of all these outrage articles when they tried to make it a white-on-black thing.

01:16:30.000 Yeah, dude, I'd be curious.

01:16:31.000 I'd be curious.

01:16:32.000 I will say one thing.

01:16:33.000 If it wasn't fentanyl he died of, they'll 100% guilty.

01:16:36.000 You can't hold a choke for 15 minutes.

01:16:38.000 No, you can't hold a choke, but it's also like some people don't know that.

01:16:42.000 Look, anybody can teach you how to do that.

01:16:45.000 That's not hard to do.

01:16:46.000 It's not like doing a wheel kick.

01:16:47.000 It's like a very easy movement for your body to do. 0.99

01:16:50.000 Every fucking kid, when I was a boy, when we would watch pro wrestling, they knew a sleeper hold. 0.99

01:16:56.000 Everybody knew it. 0.99

01:16:57.000 You know, so it's like if he doesn't know any better and he doesn't know that you can't hold on to a choke because he's not trained.

01:17:03.000 I know he's a Marine, but how much... 1.00

01:17:05.000 They don't teach you shit. 1.00

01:17:06.000 They don't teach you shit. 1.00

01:17:07.000 So who the fuck knows how much this guy actually knew? 1.00

01:17:09.000 When I'm looking at the way he was squeezing the neck, it didn't look like he knew what he was doing. 0.99

01:17:14.000 You know what's fucked up there, dude? 0.99

01:17:15.000 None of this cool shit ever happens to me, you guys. 1.00

01:17:17.000 I walk around the earth all day long like you're just waiting for it and I'm like fucking... 0.99

01:17:21.000 I don't think... 0.99

01:17:22.000 I think people would recognize there's something off about this guy.

01:17:25.000 Maybe I'm gonna go to the next car.

01:17:26.000 Bro, I actually almost killed a guy once.

01:17:29.000 What happened? 0.91

01:17:29.000 Gun to the head. 0.91

01:17:30.000 Gun to the head. 1.00

01:17:32.000 Fucking... 1.00

01:17:33.000 Yeah, I fucking... 1.00

01:17:34.000 Thank God I didn't pull the trigger. 1.00

01:17:35.000 I was at a fucking party, dude. 1.00

01:17:37.000 Again, BB's an asshole. 1.00

01:17:39.000 My buddy goes to grab me and I fucking hip toss him and he puts a hole in the wall. 1.00

01:17:43.000 So I'm 19. I think I was going through a pretty bad court case at the time, so I was already facing two felonies on a parole. 0.88

01:17:52.000 Or I was on bail, sorry.

01:17:55.000 And the girlfriend comes downstairs and says, you gotta leave. 0.98

01:17:58.000 And I'm like, you know, alright woman, my bad, I fucked up. 0.92

01:18:02.000 Like, hey, he's your friend. 0.98

01:18:03.000 I don't even know you guys.

01:18:04.000 I was invited here.

01:18:04.000 He attacked me.

01:18:05.000 He's my buddy, but fuck it. 1.00

01:18:06.000 So anyways, as I'm walking to the door, she comes down again. 1.00

01:18:09.000 She says, my boyfriend's upstairs and you gotta pay for the wall too.

01:18:13.000 And she had this look, dude. 1.00

01:18:14.000 She had this look, kind of like scared. 1.00

01:18:17.000 So me, being a fucking fucked up sociopath, like, oh, I gotta hurt somebody. 1.00

01:18:21.000 I'm like, well, if he wants to pay for the wall, he can come fucking suck my dick and earn the money. 1.00

01:18:26.000 Next thing I know, dude, he comes out and says, fucking shotgun, fucking racks it right to my fucking head. 1.00

01:18:32.000 And mind you, dude, guys, if somebody wants to kill you, generally you're dead. 1.00

01:18:36.000 Like, if somebody puts a gun on you and you don't get the fucking, and you don't get plugged right off the back, there's a chance you're going to walk out of that one. 0.99

01:18:44.000 So you should probably just do what they say. 0.99

01:18:46.000 So anyways, I put my hands up and I'm like, I'm like begging.

01:18:48.000 I'm like, dude, please no, man. 0.99

01:18:50.000 Don't fucking shoot me, dude. 0.99

01:18:50.000 I'm so fucking sorry. 0.99

01:18:51.000 I just want to leave. 0.86

01:18:52.000 I want to leave. 0.99

01:18:52.000 And then all of a sudden I grab the gun and just fucking start slamming his head to the wall. 0.99

01:18:56.000 Boom. 1.00

01:18:56.000 Fucking falls down to him in the face. 1.00

01:18:58.000 Take the shotgun. 1.00

01:18:59.000 Point at his head. 1.00

01:19:00.000 Like, shit you not, dude. 1.00

01:19:01.000 Right when I'm about to pull the trigger, his girlfriend jumps on top of him and starts crying and like begging for his life. 1.00

01:19:07.000 So you were going to pull the trigger? 1.00

01:19:08.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

01:19:09.000 But like... 1.00

01:19:12.000 But then it's like, it's not that.

01:19:14.000 No, the problem was, the only way I wouldn't have done it, that's a hard case to beat.

01:19:19.000 That's a hard case.

01:19:20.000 Like, you have the gun, he's defenseless.

01:19:22.000 Like, it's a hard case to beat.

01:19:25.000 Yeah, you ain't beating that case. 1.00

01:19:26.000 Ah, fuck. 1.00

01:19:26.000 I mean, maybe. 1.00

01:19:27.000 Maybe.

01:19:27.000 I say I felt threatened.

01:19:29.000 I don't know. 0.97

01:19:30.000 But the problem was, I was also fucking fighting two felony GBI's. 0.97

01:19:34.000 Not good. 0.99

01:19:35.000 Yeah, man. 0.99

01:19:36.000 Fucking A, dude. 1.00

01:19:37.000 But yeah, I was going to be my first confirmed kill, you guys. 1.00

01:19:39.000 I'm kind of sad.

01:19:40.000 Never happened.

01:19:42.000 Well, I'm glad.

01:19:44.000 Come on, dude, you gotta want to smoke somebody.

01:19:46.000 You probably carry a gun. 1.00

01:19:47.000 There always be a time in your life you fucking want to die. 1.00

01:19:49.000 I would like to go to my grave without ever killing anybody. 1.00

01:19:52.000 Why?

01:19:54.000 Why?

01:19:54.000 Are you religious?

01:19:55.000 Because I don't want to be involved in that.

01:19:57.000 Well, I mean, let's just say you get one free pass.

01:19:59.000 Someone's son.

01:20:00.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

01:20:01.000 You shouldn't raise your son not to be a fucking asshole. 1.00

01:20:03.000 Listen to you, man. 1.00

01:20:05.000 But listen to things that happen in your life and think about people that have had worse things happen to them.

01:20:09.000 I would rather go through life with minimal conflict.

01:20:12.000 That's how I started fighting again, is that I got arrested. 0.99

01:20:15.000 So I was, I mean, fucking, I'm just rammed. 0.99

01:20:17.000 It was probably about to wrap this bitch up. 1.00

01:20:19.000 But... 1.00

01:20:21.000 Just rambling on about my fucking life. 0.99

01:20:22.000 Hey, what else would you guys like to know? 1.00

01:20:23.000 I lost my virginity.

01:20:26.000 He doesn't count, though.

01:20:29.000 It wasn't consensual. 1.00

01:20:33.000 But, yeah, no, fuck, man. 1.00

01:20:35.000 I got arrested when I was, like, 18. But prior to that, I was like, dude, my life sucks. 1.00

01:20:40.000 I'm sleeping on a gym.

01:20:41.000 Have you ever slept on a mat, you guys?

01:20:43.000 It's really hard on the shoulders.

01:20:45.000 You're probably sure you slept on a mat, dude.

01:20:47.000 It just kills your shoulders.

01:20:48.000 Yeah, it's not good. 1.00

01:20:48.000 After about a fucking month of sleeping on a mat, I was like, fuck my life. 1.00

01:20:52.000 This sucks. 1.00

01:20:52.000 I don't want to be fired anymore. 1.00

01:20:54.000 So I go to our recruiter.

01:20:55.000 I'm like, hey, man, you guys are supposed to be easy to get into.

01:20:58.000 I don't have a high school diploma.

01:21:00.000 How do I join you guys?

01:21:02.000 He's like, well, all you need is 15 college credits, and then you could blah, blah, blah, sign up for this, and you could get in.

01:21:08.000 So I'm like, sweet, 15 college credits?

01:21:09.000 That's only like a couple semesters a semester.

01:21:12.000 So I go sign up at a community college, get my credits. 0.99

01:21:17.000 The night I go to a party, and then that little voice in my head, a little voice in my head that tells me to fucking do something bad fucking comes in my head, and I fucking hurt two people. 0.99

01:21:26.000 I had to go get surgery. 0.94

01:21:29.000 So, facing two felony GBIs, I had to pay my lawyer, I had to pay my bail bondsman, and then King of the Cage hit me up, and they're like, hey, we have a fight in South Africa in like two weeks.

01:21:39.000 You want to go? 0.91

01:21:40.000 And I'm like, fuck yeah, I'm about to go back to jail right now. 0.99

01:21:42.000 I need money. 1.00

01:21:42.000 Fuck yes, I had to pay my bail bondsman. 1.00

01:21:45.000 So, yeah, I fucking went to take a short notice flying at South Africa, and here we are with the Joe Rogan. 1.00

01:21:50.000 Wow. 0.93

01:21:51.000 Life, dude, strange, right?

01:21:52.000 It is strange.

01:21:53.000 You've been arrested, Joe?

01:21:54.000 No.

01:21:54.000 Okay.

01:21:56.000 Yeah, that's fair.

01:21:58.000 It's fair?

01:21:59.000 That's fair.

01:22:00.000 Well, I mean, you know, you could always, like, tell, like, I don't know, you just paint a picture of a man.

01:22:04.000 Like, you don't, there's not really much about you, Joe.

01:22:06.000 Like, you're just Joe Rogan, the podcast man that believes in aliens and does drugs.

01:22:12.000 Like, we don't really know what makes Joe Rogan tick.

01:22:15.000 I mean, you know, Fairfax was awesome. 1.00

01:22:16.000 I watched that shit all the time when I was a fucking kid. 1.00

01:22:19.000 Shit was fucking awesome. 1.00

01:22:19.000 But what makes me tick is obviously very different than what makes you tick. 1.00

01:22:22.000 Yeah.

01:22:23.000 We're finding that out today.

01:22:24.000 But you gotta ask yourself.

01:22:26.000 I want you to embrace that you're a better person than you were then. 1.00

01:22:29.000 It seems like you kind of like fall back on this I'm a piece of shit thing. 0.99

01:22:34.000 It's almost like you use that as like a little bit of a shield. 1.00

01:22:37.000 Yeah, fuck yeah. 1.00

01:22:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:22:38.000 You don't have to do that. 1.00

01:22:41.000 Because I don't think you are a piece of shit. 1.00

01:22:42.000 I don't think you are a piece of shit. 1.00

01:22:45.000 But it's also society. 1.00

01:22:46.000 What does society allow? 0.75

01:22:47.000 I think you hold on to that a little too much.

01:22:49.000 Okay, let me tell you something.

01:22:50.000 Let me tell you something.

01:22:51.000 Okay.

01:22:52.000 Please tell me.

01:22:53.000 That's how I look at it.

01:22:54.000 Okay.

01:22:54.000 Let's just say you believe in God.

01:22:55.000 Let's just say Joe Rogan, the Christian. 1.00

01:22:58.000 If he's Muslim, this conversation will go very differently, but we'll go Christian. 1.00

01:23:02.000 So, society allows you to be a decent human being.

01:23:08.000 But let's just say in your heart, in your heart of hearts, right? 1.00

01:23:11.000 The world ends and your fucking family's hungry and you go fucking kill your neighbor and feed them your family. 1.00

01:23:16.000 I'm assuming you would do that, right, if it came to you and your kids? 1.00

01:23:19.000 That's the plot of every apocalypse movie.

01:23:22.000 I agree.

01:23:23.000 So you would do that.

01:23:24.000 So if society is allowing you to be a decent human being, yet you are not a decent human being because you would do this if the situation had arised...

01:23:33.000 Are you a decent human being with who you are?

01:23:35.000 I think you have to take into consideration all the experiences that you've had in your life.

01:23:40.000 And I don't think it's as simple as, are you a good human being or are you a bad human being?

01:23:46.000 Here's the thing.

01:23:47.000 Are you a better human being than you used to be?

01:23:50.000 100%.

01:23:50.000 Did you get through one of the most horrific childhood stories that I've ever had anybody talk about?

01:23:56.000 100%.

01:23:57.000 And you can't expect someone to come out of that and be a monk.

01:24:00.000 You can't expect that.

01:24:02.000 Just the sheer amount of trauma that you've experienced, like you were talking about PTSD, 100% you've got that.

01:24:09.000 100%.

01:24:09.000 The sheer amount of trauma.

01:24:11.000 And I think you hold the, I'm a piece of shit, and you hold that up as a shield to sort of protect yourself and give yourself a way out of things. 0.99

01:24:20.000 You know what it is too, man? 0.99

01:24:21.000 I have such little...

01:24:23.000 I have such a little respect for humanity.

01:24:25.000 And this sounds like, again, I love life.

01:24:27.000 I'm happy.

01:24:28.000 I have good friends.

01:24:29.000 My girlfriend's amazing.

01:24:30.000 Right, but you have respect for some aspects of humanity.

01:24:34.000 You have respect for some people. 1.00

01:24:35.000 But people just suck. 0.99

01:24:36.000 But you have respect for some people. 0.99

01:24:38.000 Some people don't suck. 0.99

01:24:39.000 Curtis doesn't suck. 0.99

01:24:41.000 You have friends that don't suck. 0.99

01:24:41.000 Dude, I almost broke up with my girlfriend once. 0.99

01:24:43.000 I shit you not, dude. 1.00

01:24:44.000 I'm so fucking mad at her, dude. 1.00

01:24:45.000 I'm so fucking mad at her. 0.99

01:24:46.000 We're walking. 0.98

01:24:47.000 And I was like, babe, I want to get to know you a little better.

01:24:49.000 I want to get to know you a little better. 0.81

01:24:50.000 I was like, what would have happened if I were to kill somebody?

01:24:52.000 What?

01:24:55.000 She said, I'll call the cops.

01:24:56.000 And I was like, you have a magic wand, and you can make it go away. 1.00

01:25:00.000 Guy's still fucking dead, fucking kids are still orphaned, but you can make it go away. 1.00

01:25:04.000 Would you wave your fucking wand? 1.00

01:25:06.000 She said, nah, I'd put you in jail. 1.00

01:25:09.000 Well, she's a girl.

01:25:10.000 First of all, A, you're not supposed to ask those questions.

01:25:12.000 Because you're painting a scenario that's impossible.

01:25:15.000 It was like a week. 0.99

01:25:16.000 It was like a fucking week of me and her mad at her. 0.99

01:25:18.000 Then she's mad at me. 0.99

01:25:19.000 She's like, you really are going to leave me for that?

01:25:22.000 I'm like, babe, I'm not saying this could happen, but like, okay, for instance, I use a scenario.

01:25:27.000 We were walking. 0.99

01:25:27.000 We were fucking. 0.99

01:25:28.000 And I was like, babe, you need to understand this could happen. 0.99

01:25:31.000 Chris Curtis is fighting in a fucking, I don't know where he was, Florida. 0.99

01:25:37.000 And there's this homeless guy walking and then Chris Curtis and Chris Curtis's wife or girlfriend, whatever the fuck she is, right? 0.99

01:25:46.000 Baby's mama, whatever you want to call her, is walking and this homeless guy on drugs veers off and starts following him. 0.96

01:25:54.000 We're probably 20 yards behind him.

01:25:56.000 And they start walking in this alleyway. 0.99

01:25:59.000 Clearly, if you were there, the guy's fucking following them. 1.00

01:26:03.000 And me being a sociopath, I'm like, I'm going to kill this motherfucker right now. 1.00

01:26:07.000 We're in a dark alleyway. 1.00

01:26:08.000 I'm going to spike this motherfucker's head on the ground. 1.00

01:26:10.000 And we're going to fucking just be on our merry way. 1.00

01:26:12.000 And we have two attractive women to be our witnesses. 1.00

01:26:16.000 So, I'm walking, all of a sudden Kurt sees it and starts running at him. 1.00

01:26:19.000 And I'm like, Kurt, what the fuck, dude? 1.00

01:26:21.000 We were about to fucking kill this guy. 1.00

01:26:23.000 And now I'm starting to think I'm a piece of shit. 1.00

01:26:26.000 Now I'm starting to think, man, did you just use your woman as bait to kill a man? 1.00

01:26:31.000 Because I'm thinking everything is fine. 0.99

01:26:32.000 Everything is fine. 1.00

01:26:33.000 He's probably just a crazy motherfucker. 1.00

01:26:34.000 He's probably just going to go grab their ass and make excuses to spike his fucking head on the ground. 1.00

01:26:38.000 So I'm really mad at Chris Curtis now. 1.00

01:26:40.000 I'm like, you motherfucker, dude. 1.00

01:26:41.000 You've ruined this. 1.00

01:26:42.000 You've ruined our opportunity.

01:26:44.000 But that's also easy to say when it didn't happen.

01:26:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:26:48.000 But again, in my brain, it's like...

01:26:50.000 But you keep saying you hate humanity, but you don't.

01:26:54.000 Well, I don't hate...

01:26:55.000 No, I just know what we are.

01:26:55.000 You love some people.

01:26:56.000 I know what we are.

01:26:57.000 But you love quality people.

01:26:59.000 The problem is you just don't have a wealth of them in your life, and you haven't had a wealth of them in your life.

01:27:03.000 You've had a very small number of them that you only met once you started fighting.

01:27:08.000 So I gave my girl that story, and she was like, I was like, that's what I'm saying, babe.

01:27:12.000 Like, there's a situation where this could happen, and I might need you to embellish the truth.

01:27:16.000 But that's not even embellishing.

01:27:18.000 That's self-defense.

01:27:19.000 If someone actually does attack your girl.

01:27:21.000 But it was like, you know, it would have been pushed.

01:27:23.000 That's the most justifiable thing ever.

01:27:25.000 I mean, what would you do, man? 1.00

01:27:26.000 Your wife fucking... 1.00

01:27:26.000 100% would do what you just said. 1.00

01:27:28.000 No, no, no. 0.99

01:27:28.000 What if your wife does something just fucked up? 0.99

01:27:31.000 What if she has, like... 0.99

01:27:33.000 I don't know.

01:27:33.000 I'm trying to think of a scenario.

01:27:35.000 What if she fucking shoots the mailman on accident and you can make a wand and it may go away? 0.99

01:27:40.000 Would you do it? 1.00

01:27:41.000 That's a good question.

01:27:42.000 Good question. 1.00

01:27:43.000 Fuck yeah, you'd do it? 1.00

01:27:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:27:45.000 Yeah, you'd do it?

01:27:46.000 Yeah.

01:27:47.000 So does that make you a decent human being?

01:27:49.000 Well...

01:27:50.000 There's sometimes people who make compromises.

01:27:52.000 And sometimes people have to make very difficult choices.

01:27:55.000 Doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad human being, but it's not a good choice.

01:27:58.000 It's not a good situation to be in either.

01:28:00.000 I'd hide the body. 1.00

01:28:01.000 I'd go get a sawzall and fucking... 1.00

01:28:03.000 Vegas is big, man. 1.00

01:28:06.000 A lot of fucking desert. 1.00

01:28:07.000 Oh, man. 1.00

01:28:07.000 How many holes are out in that desert? 1.00

01:28:09.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:28:09.000 That was hilarious when Lake Mead started shrinking and they started finding all these bodies. 1.00

01:28:14.000 Fuck, dude. 1.00

01:28:14.000 They found a ton of bodies in fucking oil drums and shit. 1.00

01:28:18.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:28:18.000 Dude, I cannot imagine. 1.00

01:28:19.000 I was on a hike the other day in Vegas.

01:28:21.000 You know, my chick likes to... 1.00

01:28:22.000 I hate fucking hiking, dude. 1.00

01:28:23.000 Fucking hiking. 1.00

01:28:24.000 You like the hiking? 1.00

01:28:25.000 Well, you like to go hunt shit. 1.00

01:28:26.000 I could do that. 1.00

01:28:27.000 Like, you want to go grab a gun and walk through the...

01:28:29.000 I could go do that, man. 1.00

01:28:30.000 But just, like, wandering through the fucking desert. 0.99

01:28:32.000 I'm like, oh, there's a fucking rock. 1.00

01:28:33.000 There's a fucking desert. 0.99

01:28:35.000 Some people do it because they need to get out in nature, and they just like to get a little exercise. 1.00

01:28:40.000 Men only hike, dude, because in the back of our brains, we think there's going to be a waterfall with fucking naked women underneath it. 1.00

01:28:46.000 That's the only reason. 1.00

01:28:48.000 Good luck finding that in Vegas. 1.00

01:28:50.000 And the moment you realize, dude, there's no waterfall with fucking pussy underneath it, you're going to be like, this sucks. 1.00

01:28:56.000 Why the fuck am I doing this? 1.00

01:28:58.000 Some people like hiking. 1.00

01:29:00.000 They didn't grow up like you. 1.00

01:29:01.000 Fuck if you, who like, dude, you just, it's the same shit over and over again. 1.00

01:29:05.000 Yeah, but it's a peaceful thing for some people. 1.00

01:29:07.000 They just like that walking.

01:29:08.000 Yeah, but you don't count. 1.00

01:29:09.000 You fucking do DMT and laying boat tanks and shit. 1.00

01:29:11.000 You're a fucking hippie. 1.00

01:29:12.000 Yeah, I am a little bit of a hippie. 1.00

01:29:14.000 But it's different people, man.

01:29:15.000 Different people, they come from different walks of life, different circumstances, and they have...

01:29:21.000 I don't think you're a bad guy, Sean.

01:29:23.000 No, I'm not a bad guy.

01:29:23.000 No, for sure I'm not.

01:29:24.000 I think you use that as a little bit of a crutch. 1.00

01:29:26.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:29:27.000 I mean, it's nice. 1.00

01:29:27.000 But I do know that if someone did fuck with you, you would spike them on the head. 1.00

01:29:31.000 Yeah, fuck it. 1.00

01:29:32.000 That, too. 1.00

01:29:32.000 Well, the shitty thing is, as we talk about this, it's going to be a really hard case for me to fucking beat. 1.00

01:29:36.000 Right, if something happened. 0.99

01:29:38.000 This is going to be fucking used as court. 0.98

01:29:41.000 For sure. 0.99

01:29:42.000 What I'm saying, you guys, I just recently found Jesus Christ.

01:29:45.000 That's the move.

01:29:46.000 Bro, you know, it's funny.

01:29:47.000 Speaking of religion. 1.00

01:29:48.000 So, I make fun of fucking everybody. 1.00

01:29:50.000 Jews and Muslims, everybody. 1.00

01:29:52.000 But Muslims are fucking nuts, dude. 1.00

01:29:54.000 They get very, very, very, very upset if you talk any shit about Islam. 1.00

01:29:58.000 So, there was a guy named Albert DeRove. 0.99

01:30:01.000 And, like, we have a lot of Muslims at the gym. 0.98

01:30:03.000 And I fucking love these guys, dude. 1.00

01:30:05.000 Like, they're fucking, you know, they're fucking solid motherfuckers. 0.99

01:30:08.000 So one day, Albert Durov, I mean, I would go hard on Muhammad, like, everything that you weren't supposed to do, I'm like, well, let me show you this doodle I said. 1.00

01:30:17.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:30:18.000 Hey, Twitter, check this out, right? 0.99

01:30:21.000 I don't give a fuck, it's America. 0.99

01:30:23.000 So, one day, fucking, you know, Albert Durov comes up to me and he was like, hey, Sean, can I talk to you? 1.00

01:30:29.000 I thought he was going to show me a move. 0.97

01:30:30.000 Albert Durov is a great wrestler. 0.97

01:30:32.000 So, I'm like, alright, sure, I'll be your wrestling dummy for all these little Muslims coming to the cage. 1.00

01:30:36.000 And they're like, and I go to, like, get on, like, what, we didn't guard? 0.94

01:30:39.000 What position are we in here, Albert?

01:30:40.000 He's like, no, no, no, no, sit down, sit down, Sean. 1.00

01:30:43.000 I'm like, oh, fuck me. 1.00

01:30:45.000 He puts his hand on my leg. 1.00

01:30:46.000 Muslims, dude, are super touchy-feely. 1.00

01:30:48.000 It's so fucking weird, man. 1.00

01:30:49.000 Like, fucking... 1.00

01:30:51.000 You ever hang out with a bunch of Muslim guys? 1.00

01:30:53.000 It's like, fucking... 1.00

01:30:54.000 They're friendly. 1.00

01:30:56.000 Super friendly, guys. 0.99

01:30:57.000 Super fucking friendly. 0.98

01:30:58.000 It's so odd, especially because of religion. 0.99

01:30:59.000 So he's like, Sean, Sean, Sean.

01:31:02.000 In my country, I cannot be friends with you. 0.99

01:31:05.000 I'm like, what are you fucking talking about? 1.00

01:31:06.000 He's like, you say things about Islam that... 0.99

01:31:10.000 Pretty much saying that I cannot be friends with you because what you say about Islam. 1.00

01:31:15.000 I'd make fun of Jews, Christians, fucking Scientologists. 1.00

01:31:19.000 I'd make fun of everybody. 1.00

01:31:21.000 So after that, they fucking, after he caressed my leg and rubbed my head a little bit, I was like, fuck it, dude, I'm gonna lay off Islam. 1.00

01:31:27.000 So Albert Durov is why I fucking, you know, I give Islam a fucking pass, which makes me a sellout, but... 1.00

01:31:34.000 No, it doesn't. 0.98

01:31:35.000 Listen, man, there's fights that you should pick, and it's not necessary.

01:31:41.000 It's like, also, it's like that belief system helps people, keeps them disciplined, keeps them on a good path.

01:31:47.000 I mean, how many great fighters are like devout Muslims?

01:31:49.000 It's a pretty high percentage.

01:31:52.000 I mean, it's one of the most popular religions in the world.

01:31:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:31:54.000 It's one of the most popular religions in the world, but it's also, it's a religion that embraces discipline.

01:32:00.000 Yeah.

01:32:01.000 100%.

01:32:01.000 I mean, you go through Ramadan, you're not eating all day, you're not drinking any water all day.

01:32:06.000 I mean, the fact that guys...

01:32:07.000 But it's also not really compatible with American values.

01:32:10.000 It's not compatible with some aspects of American values, especially when it comes to women, gay rights, things along those lines.

01:32:17.000 Well, I mean, it sounds reasonable to me. 0.99

01:32:18.000 There was a God, and God and his rightful wisdom, you know, as he created the earth and he created the people, he said, these fucking whores, we need to cover this stuff. 1.00

01:32:27.000 I mean, that sounds fucking reasonable to me. 0.99

01:32:29.000 I mean, I just said, I don't want women working. 1.00

01:32:31.000 Maybe I'm a fucking Muslim, you guys. 1.00

01:32:33.000 I like pork, though. 1.00

01:32:34.000 God damn it. 0.99

01:32:35.000 Well, you said you don't want women working because you recognize the importance of a mother's role. 1.00

01:32:39.000 It is a job.

01:32:40.000 It's just not a job that pays money.

01:32:42.000 Because of that, it doesn't get supported. 0.95

01:32:46.000 The fact that raising a kid is a fucking insanely difficult proposition. 0.96

01:32:53.000 And the fact that we expect people to raise kids while they also are doing, you know, a job, a fucking eight-hour-a-day job, and then commuting and being exhausted. 0.98

01:33:07.000 Did your mom work? 0.94

01:33:07.000 My mom worked, yeah. 0.94

01:33:08.000 My mom was a secretary.

01:33:10.000 Okay, what did your stepdad do?

01:33:11.000 He was an architect. 1.00

01:33:12.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:33:13.000 Okay. 1.00

01:33:13.000 So you were fine? 1.00

01:33:16.000 Well, he went through school when I was a kid.

01:33:18.000 So, like, we were poor.

01:33:20.000 When I was young, we were very poor.

01:33:22.000 Welfare, food stamps, the whole deal.

01:33:24.000 And then, as I was in high school, he started making money.

01:33:28.000 How old are you when you're like, hey, I want to be a comedian?

01:33:30.000 21. 21?

01:33:31.000 Yeah.

01:33:32.000 Did you go to college?

01:33:33.000 You think about doing stand-up?

01:33:34.000 No.

01:33:34.000 I think you do a little bit.

01:33:36.000 I don't try to be funny. 0.97

01:33:39.000 I just am retarded. 0.97

01:33:41.000 Yeah. 0.87

01:33:42.000 Well, gym funny is a funny kind of funny.

01:33:45.000 That's how I got into comedy.

01:33:47.000 Oh, yeah.

01:33:47.000 By making people laugh in the gym.

01:33:48.000 It's locker room talk on steroids.

01:33:50.000 Locker room talk on steroids.

01:33:51.000 Also, it's gallows talk, too, because everyone's sparring.

01:33:54.000 There's a lot of nerves.

01:33:55.000 It's easy to crack the ice.

01:33:57.000 It's fun. 0.99

01:33:58.000 Oh man, Dominic Cruz has a fucking weird gem. 0.98

01:34:01.000 I'm sure you know Dominic Cruz. 0.99

01:34:02.000 Alliance?

01:34:03.000 Yeah, Alliance.

01:34:03.000 He's also in a cult, by the way.

01:34:05.000 Khalil Roundtree's in a cult, too.

01:34:06.000 What do you mean?

01:34:07.000 They're in a cult? 1.00

01:34:08.000 Yeah, they're like in a weird fucking cult. 1.00

01:34:09.000 What cult? 1.00

01:34:10.000 I can't stand Khalil Roundtree.

01:34:11.000 What?

01:34:12.000 I love that guy. 1.00

01:34:13.000 God, this fucking... 0.99

01:34:13.000 Because he doesn't know these people intimately. 0.99

01:34:15.000 Well, I love talking to him.

01:34:17.000 I enjoy talking to him a couple times. 1.00

01:34:19.000 He's a dirty fucking feminist. 1.00

01:34:21.000 What? 1.00

01:34:22.000 I'll tell you a story. 1.00

01:34:23.000 I can't stand this fucking guy. 1.00

01:34:25.000 You seem to not like most people. 1.00

01:34:27.000 It's like you and Chris Curtis against the world.

01:34:30.000 Well, I'll tell you why.

01:34:31.000 I'll tell you why.

01:34:32.000 So, I used to run a wrestling class at a gym I was at.

01:34:35.000 And somebody invited around. 0.98

01:34:37.000 I'm like, God damn it. 0.99

01:34:38.000 Why'd you invite this guy? 1.00

01:34:39.000 He's just a fucking pussy. 1.00

01:34:41.000 So, we're training, right? 1.00

01:34:43.000 And guys, I give some good speeches. 0.99

01:34:44.000 I give some good fucking... 0.99

01:34:45.000 I give some good, hot, raw speeches. 1.00

01:34:47.000 So, I'm like, when you guys are wrestling, you gotta pick the fucking baddest motherfucker and you gotta go with him. 1.00

01:34:53.000 And if I see you going Khalil around, I know that's not what you fucking did. 1.00

01:34:57.000 You're being a pussy. 1.00

01:34:58.000 So I said that speech as like a rah-rah moment for Khalil to be like, fuck you, Sean. 1.00

01:35:05.000 I'll show you. 1.00

01:35:05.000 I'm going to show you fucking what's up. 1.00

01:35:07.000 And I thought it was going to make him step up and fuck me up. 1.00

01:35:09.000 But instead, he stormed off the mat. 1.00

01:35:11.000 He just fucking walked off the mat. 0.99

01:35:12.000 And he was like, Sean, I don't respect you. 1.00

01:35:15.000 I don't really like you. 1.00

01:35:16.000 I'm like, yeah, because you're a fucking feminist pussy in a cult. 1.00

01:35:19.000 What cult are you? 1.00

01:35:20.000 You keep saying cult.

01:35:21.000 So there's this weird Las Vegas...

01:35:24.000 Don't quote me on this, dude. 0.97

01:35:27.000 I heard somebody was telling me Dominic Cruz was in it, but I don't want to fucking... 0.99

01:35:30.000 Dominic Cruz did fuck a chick I was into when I was 16, so I'm so salty at him. 0.99

01:35:35.000 You know, like the hottest... 1.00

01:35:38.000 Like, you know the hottest...

01:35:39.000 I think she became a stripper. 1.00

01:35:40.000 Oh, you were 16. You're still holding a grudge.

01:35:43.000 I was like 17. Oh, that's hilarious.

01:35:45.000 And it was like, you know like that one when you...

01:35:47.000 Half your life ago. 1.00

01:35:48.000 We know when you get the hottest piece of ass ever. 1.00

01:35:50.000 I'm like a kid, dude. 1.00

01:35:51.000 This girl, she's a little older than me.

01:35:52.000 She's like a little model. 1.00

01:35:53.000 I'm like the fucking best piece of ass I've ever got in my life. 1.00

01:35:56.000 Sex with her on the beach, Laguna. 1.00

01:35:58.000 It was awesome, right? 0.97

01:35:59.000 It's actually kind of funny. 0.96

01:35:59.000 I was having sex with her on the beach and there was like a... 0.96

01:36:03.000 A fish run. 0.98

01:36:05.000 Camera flashes all down the beach.

01:36:09.000 And yes, I did not stop.

01:36:11.000 But continue.

01:36:12.000 Back to my story. 0.99

01:36:13.000 So I'm so salty because later in life, I mean, he's like, he's on his road to being a fucking champ. 0.98

01:36:17.000 He might have been a champ at the time. 0.99

01:36:19.000 So she went over there and started fucking him. 1.00

01:36:22.000 What is this cult thing that you keep talking about? 1.00

01:36:24.000 Let me tell you, but they laid in bed.

01:36:25.000 She was like, he's such a, I'm so, I hate myself for knowing this.

01:36:29.000 I hate my, but I'm going to tell you guys.

01:36:30.000 If I know it, you guys need to know it. 0.99

01:36:32.000 Because she's such a weirdo. 1.00

01:36:33.000 He just lays in bed and watches fucking fight videos and plays with the cats all day. 1.00

01:36:37.000 And I'm like, well, fucking A, man. 1.00

01:36:39.000 That's how you become great. 1.00

01:36:40.000 That's how you become great. 0.99

01:36:41.000 That's why I'm not fucking you anymore. 0.99

01:36:44.000 What does that have to do with being in a cult? 0.99

01:36:46.000 So anyways, fast forward. 0.99

01:36:47.000 I just want to tell you the fucking story. 0.99

01:36:49.000 Okay, sorry. 1.00

01:36:49.000 Yeah, this is good. 1.00

01:36:51.000 Fucking your fans like fighting. 1.00

01:36:52.000 Yeah, you guys know Dominic Cruz is a fucking weirdo and he stole my chick. 1.00

01:36:56.000 Fucking dweeb, right? 1.00

01:36:57.000 Fuck him. 1.00

01:36:58.000 I love that dude too. 1.00

01:36:59.000 I actually really like Dominic Cruz.

01:37:01.000 He's awesome.

01:37:02.000 I talk to him every time I do pre-fight media.

01:37:05.000 He's there.

01:37:05.000 I love Dominic Cruz.

01:37:06.000 Fuck you, dude. 1.00

01:37:07.000 Anyway, so there's like this weird, like, church or like, like, it's like a self-help cult. 1.00

01:37:12.000 And one day, one day, like, Khalil came and like took somebody out of training and was like, oh, I don't want to, like, the kid didn't want to fucking go.

01:37:19.000 Chris Curtis is the witness to this.

01:37:21.000 And the kid didn't want to go and like, it was kind of like a weird abduction situation.

01:37:25.000 Yeah, he's like in like a, like a self-help weird group.

01:37:29.000 But no, no, you guys, let me tell you guys about Khalil. 0.99

01:37:32.000 If you knew him on a personal level, you would fucking hate him. 1.00

01:37:35.000 Unless you're a dirty feminist. 1.00

01:37:36.000 There is this girl named Alina. 1.00

01:37:38.000 Alina, she's a PFL girl.

01:37:40.000 True story about Khalil.

01:37:41.000 Let me tell you why I hate Khalil.

01:37:42.000 Tell me why.

01:37:44.000 Alina, PFL girl, shaved her head.

01:37:46.000 Kind of looks like a man now, but, you know, whatever.

01:37:48.000 She had to make weight, I guess. 1.00

01:37:50.000 So, Alina, dude, she's like fucking 5'10 big, dude. 1.00

01:37:53.000 She's big, dude. 0.99

01:37:54.000 She's big, dude. 0.99

01:37:57.000 She's not a sexual predator. 1.00

01:37:59.000 I mean, she looks like she could be a sexual predator. 1.00

01:38:02.000 So, Khalil Roundtree is showing somebody a move. 0.99

01:38:05.000 And she walks up to Alina, a Ukrainian girl, and puts her in a move. 0.99

01:38:11.000 And the Ukrainian girl, who looks like a fucking... 1.00

01:38:14.000 I mean, dude, she looks like a... 1.00

01:38:15.000 You guys Google her, anyways. 0.96

01:38:16.000 She's like, oh, sexual harassment. 1.00

01:38:18.000 But she said it jokingly.

01:38:19.000 And like, if you see her, it's funny.

01:38:22.000 And Roundtree's like, that is not funny.

01:38:25.000 I'm a black man in America.

01:38:27.000 You cannot even joke about that. 1.00

01:38:29.000 And we're all like, black guys, white guys, we're all sitting like, dude, Cleo, what the fuck is your problem, bro? 0.99

01:38:35.000 Like, it's a joke, man. 1.00

01:38:37.000 But yeah, he's just a fucking girl, dude. 1.00

01:38:39.000 Like, on a personal level, you guys don't want to hang out with that fucking girl. 1.00

01:38:43.000 Okay. 1.00

01:38:44.000 I like him.

01:38:45.000 I enjoy talking to him.

01:38:47.000 But I'm not in that situation with him. 0.99

01:38:49.000 You're gonna tell him that you don't want transgenders in the sport, and next thing you know, he's gonna fucking accuse you of touching him under the desk. 0.99

01:38:57.000 Really? 0.99

01:38:57.000 No, I mean, he's a feminist. 0.99

01:39:00.000 Is he, like, a self-proclaimed feminist?

01:39:02.000 Yeah, like, he's just, like...

01:39:03.000 I think people say things like that sometimes because they think it's a good thing to say.

01:39:06.000 I'm going to tell you guys another insight.

01:39:08.000 Oh, let's not.

01:39:08.000 Let's not.

01:39:09.000 No, it's great.

01:39:09.000 Please.

01:39:10.000 It's great, Joe.

01:39:11.000 It's great.

01:39:11.000 Because the guy's not here to defend himself.

01:39:12.000 No, this is factual.

01:39:14.000 This is factual.

01:39:14.000 Okay.

01:39:14.000 All right.

01:39:15.000 I was hitting on a chick once, and he ended up dating this chick. 0.99

01:39:19.000 So this is before I knew Khalil kind of sucked. 1.00

01:39:22.000 And I go, yo, Khalil, like, you salty motherfucker, man. 1.00

01:39:25.000 I was talking to that girl, and, like, you ended up snagging her up. 1.00

01:39:27.000 Like, you motherfucker. 1.00

01:39:28.000 I'm jealous. 1.00

01:39:30.000 Right. 0.98

01:39:30.000 He goes to the PI, and I guess this is after they broke up, so I thought like a couple years pass, it would be funny now if I tell him that like, you know, you fucking snagged her from me. 0.98

01:39:39.000 Right.

01:39:39.000 And then a couple years pass, and I tell him this, and he goes to the PI, and he files a complaint in the Performance Institute that I brought this up and I made him feel like uncomfortable or sad.

01:39:53.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:39:54.000 And the guy, the guy at the time around the PI, he had to come up to me.

01:39:58.000 He was like, yeah, man, Sean, I got to tell you this.

01:40:00.000 Like, you know, I can't tell you who it was.

01:40:03.000 And I'm like, dude, it was funny.

01:40:04.000 Like, everybody in the physical therapy team was laughing. 0.96

01:40:07.000 Like, it was fucking funny. 0.97

01:40:08.000 It wasn't bad. 0.97

01:40:10.000 So, yeah, you're right.

01:40:11.000 Khalil's a great guy, guys. 1.00

01:40:12.000 Fuck yeah. 0.99

01:40:12.000 I love Khalil. 0.99

01:40:13.000 I know what you're saying.

01:40:15.000 I know what you're saying.

01:40:16.000 Your sense of humor with a sensitive person can create real problems.

01:40:20.000 But I didn't know that people make formal complaints at the Ultimate Fighting Championship Performance Institute.

01:40:27.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:40:28.000 That seems crazy.

01:40:29.000 I even asked the PT team.

01:40:31.000 I'm like, guys, did I like... 1.00

01:40:32.000 Because, you know, I'm an asshole and I say a lot of crazy shit. 1.00

01:40:34.000 I'm like, did I go overboard? 1.00

01:40:35.000 Yeah.

01:40:36.000 Sometimes.

01:40:37.000 Khalil's a very sensitive guy.

01:40:38.000 And I think, you know, he's gone through these journeys where he's all in and fighting. 0.99

01:40:42.000 Shut up, mom. 1.00

01:40:42.000 And then not all in and fighting. 1.00

01:40:43.000 That was actually really funny, by the way, when he told his mom to shut up when she was, like, coaching him.

01:40:47.000 He, like, looked over. 0.99

01:40:48.000 Shut up, mom. 1.00

01:40:48.000 Oh, did he? 1.00

01:40:49.000 Yeah, he didn't see that?

01:40:49.000 He was, like, mid-fight, bro.

01:40:51.000 He, like, told his mom, shut up, mom. 0.93

01:40:52.000 That is distracting. 0.99

01:40:54.000 Your mom screaming.

01:40:54.000 Was it at the Apex Center?

01:40:56.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:40:56.000 No, I think it was, like, a big fight. 1.00

01:40:58.000 Oh.

01:40:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:40:58.000 Fuck me, dude.

01:41:00.000 But yeah, I guess I'm just a cunt, dude. 1.00

01:41:01.000 There also is that, you guys. 0.99

01:41:03.000 Listen, I like you, but I get people like you.

01:41:06.000 I've been around people like you my whole life.

01:41:08.000 I get it.

01:41:09.000 I know what it's like.

01:41:10.000 You know, there's a lot of people like you out there in the world.

01:41:12.000 As long as you understand what a person like you's been through and who you are, it's fun.

01:41:18.000 I mean, Khalil, again, the thing about Khalil...

01:41:19.000 I think you make life a little more fun.

01:41:21.000 Cleo might be the first trans female athlete in the UFC. Jesus Christ, stop it. 1.00

01:41:26.000 He's already fucking sensitive. 0.99

01:41:28.000 That's one thing that I'm happy the UFC would never allow. 0.98

01:41:30.000 Oh, dude.

01:41:31.000 Every time I go on the news, I think Joe Rogan's a bigot hating on the trans community. 1.00

01:41:35.000 What the fuck is going on with people allowing biological men to compete against women? 1.00

01:41:40.000 I mean, out of all the sensitive shit, I'm a pretty sensitive person. 1.00

01:41:44.000 I'm pretty open-minded, but... 0.99

01:41:47.000 Somebody sent me a video of a guy in a dress with a hard-on in a bathroom.

01:41:54.000 Have you seen that video?

01:41:55.000 Taking photos of women? 0.87

01:41:56.000 Have you ever trained with a woman?

01:41:58.000 So you know Gabby Garcia?

01:41:59.000 Sure.

01:42:00.000 I trained with her once. 1.00

01:42:01.000 And I was like, fuck. 1.00

01:42:03.000 Before we trained, I told the coach, dude, am I going to have to fuck this chick up? 1.00

01:42:06.000 Dude, she's bigger than me. 1.00

01:42:08.000 She's huge. 1.00

01:42:09.000 And I was like, am I going to have to fuck this chick up? 1.00

01:42:10.000 And she's on all the Mexican supplements. 1.00

01:42:12.000 Her fucking clit is probably bigger than this fucking can. 1.00

01:42:15.000 You know? 1.00

01:42:17.000 I'm like, am I going to have to fuck this chick up? 1.00

01:42:18.000 And he starts laughing. 1.00

01:42:19.000 I'm rolling with her.

01:42:20.000 And then she was just weak. 0.99

01:42:21.000 Like, she just felt like a fat chick. 1.00

01:42:23.000 And after that, I was like, oh, fuck. 1.00

01:42:25.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:42:27.000 There's a weird thing going on in this culture with gender. 1.00

01:42:29.000 And it's not good.

01:42:31.000 You know, it is.

01:42:32.000 There's no more battles, man.

01:42:35.000 Women are working.

01:42:36.000 There's no more racism.

01:42:38.000 I mean, there's still racism.

01:42:39.000 But, you know, it's equality.

01:42:40.000 Like, people just need something to fight over.

01:42:43.000 Well, it's also an easy way where you can become special.

01:42:47.000 I mean, New Jersey just said that there was a 4,000% increase in kids identifying as non-binary. 0.95

01:42:54.000 First of all, what the fuck does that even mean? 0.73

01:42:57.000 And allowing someone to say they're non-binary to me is like, listen, you don't have to embrace masculinity and you don't have to embrace femininity. 0.98

01:43:05.000 You don't have to. 1.00

01:43:06.000 But you got a dick or you got a vagina. 1.00

01:43:07.000 Yes. 1.00

01:43:08.000 I mean, we're making people special with no effort.

01:43:13.000 And if you just say you're a they and a them and everybody has to say that, and if they don't say that, you can yell at them, which is what, you know... 0.67

01:43:19.000 I'm surprised you don't toe the line, dude.

01:43:21.000 I'm shocked that you take that opinion. 1.00

01:43:22.000 Fuck that line. 1.00

01:43:24.000 Because that's crazy. 1.00

01:43:25.000 The line of biological males competing against females, that's the line.

01:43:31.000 This is a true story, man. 0.99

01:43:32.000 I was at Team Quest and there was a transgender, I don't know what the fuck you'd call him. 1.00

01:43:43.000 A woman? 0.99

01:43:43.000 Male to female? 0.99

01:43:44.000 He had a dick and he wore a dress. 1.00

01:43:47.000 Whatever the fuck you'd call him. 1.00

01:43:49.000 And this fucking guy, dude, he would go spar. 1.00

01:43:52.000 And my girlfriend, my ex-girlfriend at the time, would go spar these women and, like, break their fucking noses and, like, fuck them up. 1.00

01:43:59.000 There's a lot of that. 1.00

01:44:00.000 There's a lot of that. 0.99

01:44:01.000 Or, like, they would go fucking... 0.99

01:44:02.000 He would go in the locker room. 1.00

01:44:02.000 He has a family. 1.00

01:44:03.000 He had, you know, later on in transition, he had a fucking family. 1.00

01:44:06.000 Go in the locker room, you know, my girlfriend and their big titties. 1.00

01:44:08.000 My ex with their big titties hanging out. 1.00

01:44:10.000 Right, and they're walking around with their dick hanging out. 1.00

01:44:11.000 Oh, I'd fuck him up. 1.00

01:44:12.000 It's crazy. 1.00

01:44:13.000 It's crazy that...

01:44:15.000 First of all, there's a thing called autogynephilia.

01:44:17.000 It's a real thing. 1.00

01:44:18.000 And it's a thing where there's a fetish where men get sexually aroused by pretending that their women are dressing up like women, but they want to fuck women. 1.00

01:44:26.000 And so they're heterosexual. 1.00

01:44:28.000 So they want to have sex with females, but they identify as a female for this kink. 1.00

01:44:34.000 And, you know, there's also trans people that, for whatever reason, nature threw them a curveball. 0.99

01:44:38.000 They're in the wrong body. 1.00

01:44:39.000 But you can't fucking compete against women. 1.00

01:44:43.000 It's not fair in any way, shape, or form. 0.99

01:44:46.000 Every now and then you'll meet kids, right? 0.97

01:44:48.000 And, like, masculine father, and you're like, oh man, that kid's gonna be gay for sure. 0.98

01:44:51.000 Like, you meet kids, dude, and they already got the list, but it's like, dude, you're like fucking 10 years old and your dad's in the military. 0.99

01:44:56.000 Yeah, but gay is normal. 0.99

01:44:58.000 Gay is just nature. 1.00

01:44:59.000 So that's another thing, dude.

01:45:00.000 I'm pro.

01:45:01.000 Like, I'm pro. 1.00

01:45:02.000 Like, dude, if you're a dude and you want to suck a dick, go suck that dick, dude. 1.00

01:45:06.000 Suck all the dick. 1.00

01:45:07.000 I know. 1.00

01:45:07.000 You said that about if you had a kid. 1.00

01:45:09.000 I thought that was hilarious.

01:45:10.000 Like, don't get me wrong. 1.00

01:45:10.000 If I have a kid and I think he's gay, I'm going to do everything I can to make this kid not fucking gay. 1.00

01:45:15.000 I'm going to... 1.00

01:45:16.000 I might even take him to therapy. 1.00

01:45:18.000 If he has a list and starts walking around like this, dude, I don't want to fucking gay as a kid. 1.00

01:45:22.000 But that's reasonable. 0.99

01:45:24.000 If you talk to gay dudes, you talk to gay dudes, and gay dudes don't want gays as a kid. 1.00

01:45:28.000 Being gay is fucking hard, man. 1.00

01:45:30.000 But if at some point my kid turns 18 and he's like, Dad, I like to suck dick, I'm like, kid, suck all that dick you want. 1.00

01:45:37.000 Get the white dick, get the black dick, get the yellow dick, all the dick, dude. 1.00

01:45:42.000 Get a boyfriend. 1.00

01:45:43.000 Hopefully I like him, dude.

01:45:44.000 It'll be an interesting Thanksgiving.

01:45:46.000 Well, this is the weird thing about this whole LGBTQ like coalition, like a group of people all connected together because a lot of my friends who are gay, they don't like what's going on with this movement because they think that a lot of people who just would be gay are getting convinced into becoming trans.

01:46:06.000 They're getting convinced into becoming that they really are a man trapped in a woman's body.

01:46:12.000 But you know we're losing, right?

01:46:12.000 You know we're going to lose this fight.

01:46:13.000 I don't know about that.

01:46:14.000 Oh, we're going to lose this fight for sure.

01:46:15.000 What does that mean?

01:46:16.000 So it's like...

01:46:18.000 You gotta understand, dude. 0.97

01:46:20.000 They're gonna look back at us as like we're gonna be the old racist white guy. 1.00

01:46:27.000 We're gonna be the old racist white guy on the porch saying, I remember my day when fucking black people couldn't go to school. 1.00

01:46:32.000 That's how we're gonna be viewed. 1.00

01:46:33.000 I remember my day when chicks had vaginas and dicks and dudes had dicks. 1.00

01:46:38.000 Eventually, this is what the system wants. 1.00

01:46:41.000 This is what the system gets.

01:46:43.000 I don't think the system wants anything.

01:46:46.000 I don't think that's what's going on.

01:46:47.000 I think there's what I said earlier.

01:46:49.000 I think there's an out.

01:46:51.000 And I think there's also a lot of people that are teaching school that don't have children of their own and that also they get social value and social brownie points for embracing gender ideology because it's the like...

01:47:03.000 But how many generations until we lose?

01:47:05.000 How many generations until...

01:47:07.000 Depends on what happens.

01:47:08.000 This is the question.

01:47:11.000 Are we at the fall of an empire?

01:47:12.000 Because if we are at the fall of an empire, I've talked about this before, but Douglas Murray, who's a British intellectual, who's also gay, by the way, he says that at the end of every empire, they become obsessed with gender.

01:47:23.000 And that is one very weird thing that I never saw coming. 0.54

01:47:26.000 If you came to me just fucking ten years ago and said that gender and transgender ideology would be the thing that the president would be talking, he'd be sitting there with Dylan Mulvaney getting interviewed. 0.97

01:47:38.000 Day 365 of womanhood! 1.00

01:47:40.000 Imagine!

01:47:40.000 That's like fighting in the UFC you started training a year ago.

01:47:43.000 Like, you're interviewing the fucking president? 0.99

01:47:45.000 You've only been a woman a year? 1.00

01:47:46.000 What about all these other actual biological women that are running around that have been a woman their whole life? 1.00

01:47:51.000 And you get in only because you're... 1.00

01:47:54.000 You could be a woman of the year and not have a dick, bro. 1.00

01:47:56.000 Exactly. 1.00

01:47:57.000 There's a reason why men are better than women. 1.00

01:47:59.000 Look, we even make fucking better women. 1.00

01:48:01.000 Well, Caitlyn Jenner was like woman of the year six months into being a woman. 1.00

01:48:05.000 The whole thing is nuts.

01:48:06.000 And it's...

01:48:06.000 Again, it is a way where people become special without doing any work at all.

01:48:12.000 But I'm saying your kids' kids will...

01:48:16.000 Maybe.

01:48:16.000 I don't know.

01:48:17.000 I think it's turning around. 0.86

01:48:18.000 I think people are pushing back against it now because they're realizing how fucking insane it is.

01:48:22.000 But there's certain people that are just lost in the trance and they're just pushing it. 0.85

01:48:26.000 Are these people like, are they 14 year olds?

01:48:29.000 Are they kids?

01:48:29.000 No, they're adults.

01:48:31.000 Yeah, but young kids too.

01:48:33.000 I see it with young kids today too.

01:48:34.000 There's a lot of young kids that are pushing back against this.

01:48:37.000 I remember, dude. 0.99

01:48:38.000 I remember when I was a fucking kid, dude. 0.99

01:48:40.000 When I was a kid, there were still hate crimes against gays. 0.99

01:48:44.000 I'm 32, you guys, so it was fucking weird. 0.97

01:48:47.000 I'm sure there's still hate crimes against gays today. 0.99

01:48:50.000 Again, there's hate crimes against gays. 1.00

01:48:51.000 There's always shit, but it was common practice. 1.00

01:48:54.000 It was like, we bullied the fuck out of gays. 1.00

01:48:56.000 I remember there was one kid I wrote, he wouldn't let me cut in the lunch line. 1.00

01:49:01.000 I mean, my buddy literally pinned him against the wrong rule, fag on his white shirt, and ended up being gay. 1.00

01:49:05.000 Like, crazy progress, man. 0.99

01:49:07.000 Progress in the last 10 years. 0.99

01:49:09.000 Again, I'm like, you guys, I was an angry, hateful fucking kid, you know? 0.99

01:49:12.000 Like, if I could go back, I'd fucking wave my wand on what'll fucking happen, you know? 0.99

01:49:17.000 Do I feel bad? 0.97

01:49:17.000 Probably not, but I was an angry, like, cause and effect. 0.97

01:49:20.000 But man, the amount of progress that happened for the gays in such a short period of time, wild. 1.00

01:49:25.000 Yeah.

01:49:26.000 And, you know, I think a lot of people think that amount of progress has happened for the trans movement too, but I think what has to happen is things go too far and then they even out.

01:49:35.000 And then what's really going to be a fucking long string of lawsuits, which is 100% coming, Is these de-transitioners. 0.99

01:49:44.000 These people that were forced to transition or encouraged to transition when they were kids. 0.99

01:49:49.000 Which is fucking insane. 0.89

01:49:50.000 When I hear people talking about hormone blockers being reversible, like what- but what- at what cost? 0.98

01:49:56.000 Like what is gonna happen?

01:49:58.000 Like there's a lot of people out there that no longer can have children. 1.00

01:50:02.000 They don't have their penis anymore. 1.00

01:50:04.000 They don't have their ovaries anymore. 1.00

01:50:06.000 They cut their breasts off. 1.00

01:50:07.000 It's social media. 1.00

01:50:07.000 I'll tell you what, social media is a fucking plague of the earth. 1.00

01:50:12.000 Everybody wants to be special. 1.00

01:50:14.000 Yes.

01:50:15.000 To transition, it's a way to be special.

01:50:19.000 To support that, it's a way to be special.

01:50:20.000 And you immediately get love because of it.

01:50:22.000 And it's a way to become special without putting in any work. 1.00

01:50:24.000 Right now, if I put a fucking wig on, and I said, I mean, look at all these Navy SEALs that fucking cut their dick off, or the next thing you know, they become specials. 1.00

01:50:32.000 How many Navy Seals are cutting their dick out? 1.00

01:50:33.000 Have you ever watched that one, dude? 1.00

01:50:34.000 Kristen Beck.

01:50:35.000 Yeah.

01:50:36.000 Been on the podcast before.

01:50:37.000 He threatened that...

01:50:38.000 But went back to being a man again.

01:50:40.000 He threatened that little Jewish kid.

01:50:41.000 What's that little...

01:50:42.000 Jim Ben Shapiro.

01:50:43.000 Oh, that one.

01:50:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:50:45.000 I would love if that shit happened to me. 0.99

01:50:47.000 I'd be like, all right. 1.00

01:50:47.000 I felt the same way. 1.00

01:50:48.000 I never smacked a woman, but... 1.00

01:50:50.000 I'm gonna count this as a woman. 0.99

01:50:51.000 Yeah, that one was nuts. 0.94

01:50:53.000 Threatening him because he was saying that he's a man.

01:50:56.000 But what I'm saying though, it's like, dude, everybody wants to be special.

01:50:59.000 Exactly.

01:51:00.000 I'm like pseudo-famous.

01:51:01.000 But you're becoming special through hard work, so you understand what it's like to be special. 0.96

01:51:08.000 Everybody wants to be special, but they don't want to fucking, not everybody wants to work. 0.71

01:51:11.000 And if there's a pathway for young kids, especially this generation where everybody wants a quick fix for everything, if there's an instantaneous pathway for you to become special, all you have to do is make your hair blue and say you're a they and you wear a dress to school. 0.95

01:51:25.000 I gotta ask something before we run out of time.

01:51:27.000 What about affirmative action ending?

01:51:30.000 How do you feel about that?

01:51:31.000 I don't think...

01:51:32.000 Oh, CNN. It's either CNN's gonna love you or hate you.

01:51:35.000 No, fuck CNN. I don't think that's... 1.00

01:51:38.000 I don't think that's the solution.

01:51:40.000 I don't think affirmative action is the solution.

01:51:41.000 I think the solution is what we talked about earlier. 0.99

01:51:44.000 Finding these impoverished, crime-ridden communities, whether it's white people in Appalachia, where they're all on fucking pills, or whether it's black people that live in Baltimore, or Puerto Ricans that live in the Bronx. 1.00

01:51:57.000 Whatever the fuck it is, we have impoverished communities. 1.00

01:52:00.000 We can't just leave them alone. 0.99

01:52:02.000 We can't just let... 0.99

01:52:03.000 That's where everything's fucked. 0.88

01:52:05.000 They should elevate the quality of education, elevate the quality of life, and it should be a gigantic project that the whole country gets behind. 0.92

01:52:13.000 That's what I think is the way to fix things.

01:52:15.000 Well, I mean, systematic oppression is a real thing.

01:52:18.000 It's a real thing. 0.83

01:52:19.000 On white people and black people. 0.98

01:52:21.000 Yes.

01:52:21.000 Like, I always tell people, man...

01:52:22.000 Like, it's actually kind of funny.

01:52:24.000 I got a shitstorm because I said... 0.99

01:52:27.000 what's his name he's a d1 wrestler black guy and i said he was like the white and i made fun of him for not being black what the fuck's his name phil haas i said like phil haas went and trained with me and like he was such a pussy like he was like he was like i was like hey man like you're a middleweight i'm a middleweight let's like bang a little bit he's like sean are you sure are you sure you want to spar hard i'm like yeah dude let's fucking fucking fight and you're an unusual guy you You have to understand, like, just that alone. 0.99

01:52:53.000 How many guys are, like, just banging all day for training?

01:52:57.000 So, anyway, he quit.

01:52:58.000 How many guys?

01:53:00.000 Think about what your style is.

01:53:01.000 But listen, my segue to that.

01:53:02.000 I used to train at a black gym at Millennia with Lorenz Larkin.

01:53:07.000 One of my...

01:53:08.000 Jonathan. 1.00

01:53:09.000 I mean, one guy had a fucking bullet. 1.00

01:53:10.000 That's a great gym. 1.00

01:53:11.000 Every time you'd grab his arm, he'd be like, oh, you're moving my fucking bullet. 0.99

01:53:14.000 He got shot in San Bernardino. 0.99

01:53:16.000 So my experience with black people were, like...

01:53:20.000 Hardcore.

01:53:21.000 Like, I was the white, I was the fucking, like, when you get arrested, you guys, at least in California, whenever you get walked to your cell, they segregate the whites and the blacks and the Mexicans. 0.99

01:53:33.000 Whites and Mexicans roll together, blacks roll separate. 1.00

01:53:35.000 They're segregated, at least in the county I was in. 1.00

01:53:38.000 And bro, you walk by this fucking cage. 1.00

01:53:40.000 You walk by this cage and you've got these black people. 1.00

01:53:42.000 And that's how kind of millennia we're in mind. 1.00

01:53:43.000 We've got these black people crowning the bars with their fucking big old beard, like talking shit to you. 1.00

01:53:48.000 I remember, I forget, dude, I got in my jail cell and there was a guy named Spider and he's like laying down. 1.00

01:53:54.000 He's helping me make my bed.

01:53:55.000 He's laying down the rules.

01:53:56.000 I told him, I was like, dude, I'm not racist, dude.

01:53:59.000 I don't hate anybody.

01:54:00.000 I told this guy this.

01:54:02.000 He's like, yeah, that's not how it works here, man.

01:54:03.000 It's either you're with us or you're with nobody.

01:54:05.000 And I start thinking about walking past that. 0.95

01:54:08.000 Walking past that black segregation. 0.82

01:54:11.000 And I'm like, you know what, man?

01:54:13.000 I'm going to have to put some thought on this, but I think I might be.

01:54:16.000 I don't think I'll be getting any tattoos anytime soon, but I think I might be riding with you guys.

01:54:21.000 So anyways, that's kind of how Millennia was. 0.94

01:54:24.000 I walk in there and I'd fucking be like the little white kid with long hair. 0.97

01:54:28.000 The Tarzan days. 0.99

01:54:30.000 The Tarzan powder. 1.00

01:54:31.000 And I got the shit kicked out of me by these black guys. 1.00

01:54:33.000 And I'll never forget this black guy comes up to me once. 1.00

01:54:36.000 Actually, Jonathan Wilson, I got the bullet in his arm. 0.91

01:54:38.000 He goes, Sean, it doesn't matter how nice you are to me. 0.99

01:54:41.000 You could walk in here and fucking, you know, be nice to me, ask me on my days. 1.00

01:54:44.000 I'm going to fuck you up regardless. 1.00

01:54:46.000 And I was like, and that's kind of when it hit me. 1.00

01:54:49.000 Like, oh yeah, like, I got to go in there. 1.00

01:54:51.000 I got to get the big dick. 1.00

01:54:52.000 I got to get the big black metaphorical dick. 1.00

01:54:54.000 You know, I need those big old chocolate fucking nutsack. 1.00

01:54:57.000 So now I walk in there like, you know, fuck you, Wilson. 1.00

01:55:00.000 Are you guys ready to fuck? 1.00

01:55:01.000 And I started doing better. 1.00

01:55:02.000 I started becoming more of a presence.

01:55:04.000 So whenever I told that about Phil Hawes, everyone's like, oh, Sean Strickland's racist. 0.99

01:55:09.000 He thinks that all black people are ghetto and violent. 0.84

01:55:12.000 And, you know, in hindsight, there is some truth to that, because I did say that, and that is kind of what I was implying. 0.97

01:55:20.000 But what I meant by that, though, is I like those people. 1.00

01:55:24.000 To me, you are a fucking nerd. 1.00

01:55:26.000 You're this white person that I don't fucking like. 1.00

01:55:29.000 I like the ghetto, the trashy, the boxers. 1.00

01:55:32.000 Hardcore dudes. 0.91

01:55:33.000 Yeah, I like the guys. 1.00

01:55:34.000 We're like, yeah, fuck this guy. 1.00

01:55:35.000 I like those guys. 1.00

01:55:36.000 Guys who like to talk shit when they spar like you. 0.99

01:55:38.000 So they, Phil took it as an insult, but to me it's like, I was insulting you because I respect those people. 0.99

01:55:45.000 I don't respect you, Phil. 1.00

01:55:46.000 I think you're a dirty fucking motherfucker, dude. 1.00

01:55:48.000 I think you're a pussy. 1.00

01:55:49.000 I think you're privileged. 1.00

01:55:49.000 I think you have a D1 education. 1.00

01:55:51.000 I think you're a fucking bitch. 1.00

01:55:53.000 And then, you know, my boys back at Millennia, I love those fucking guys. 1.00

01:55:57.000 I fucking love those guys. 0.99

01:55:58.000 When did you start training the way you train now, where most of your training is just sparring? 0.98

01:56:04.000 Well, I mean, again, I spar.

01:56:06.000 I fight, so I'm allowed to train. 1.00

01:56:09.000 I hate fucking fighting. 1.00

01:56:10.000 Fighting sucks, dude. 1.00

01:56:11.000 Half of my paycheck goes if I lose. 1.00

01:56:13.000 Like, fighting sucks, man. 0.97

01:56:14.000 I hate that. 0.97

01:56:14.000 By the way, we talked about it with, I had Matt Serra, Dean Thomas, and my friend John Rollo on the podcast. 0.97

01:56:20.000 Guys fight, it's like, guys fight way harder.

01:56:23.000 It's like slavery, man.

01:56:24.000 Again, I'm not saying UFC slavery, but slavery only ended for one reason. 1.00

01:56:30.000 Because it's a shit means of production. 0.98

01:56:33.000 If you pay guy people money, they work harder and they do more. 0.99

01:56:38.000 And that's kind of how MMA would be.

01:56:40.000 If you guys just paid a little bit more money, guaranteed pay, it would be like the new form of capitalism.

01:56:47.000 Guys would fight.

01:56:47.000 I mean, there was when I fought...

01:56:49.000 No one's incentivized to fight harder for a win bonus.

01:56:52.000 They're fighting as hard as they can.

01:56:53.000 When I fought Jared Kanier, again, his corner won that for him, dude.

01:56:57.000 It was crazy.

01:56:58.000 I mean, I had the announcers coming.

01:56:59.000 It was kind of a boring fight, but you won.

01:57:02.000 And, like, his corner's yelling, like, oh, those punches aren't landing, dude.

01:57:05.000 I have a chin of a girl.

01:57:06.000 You guys seen Alex knock me out?

01:57:07.000 You touched my chin. 1.00

01:57:08.000 I fucking fall asleep, bro. 1.00

01:57:09.000 I don't know what to tell you. 0.99

01:57:11.000 But, you know, that third, fourth round came, and I'm like, you know what, dude?

01:57:14.000 None of these punches are landing.

01:57:15.000 I don't have one mark on my face.

01:57:17.000 Like, I'm landing him.

01:57:18.000 I'm rocking him.

01:57:19.000 You know, like, I'm winning this fight. 1.00

01:57:20.000 I'm just going to fucking jab him and just coast and win this bitch. 1.00

01:57:23.000 And then that's why I was so upset about the fight. 0.99

01:57:25.000 But if they were like, hey, Sean, guarantee pay.

01:57:27.000 Maybe we double-chipped what you made.

01:57:28.000 I would have went in there, bit my mouth. 1.00

01:57:30.000 We said, all right, motherfucker, let's bang. 1.00

01:57:31.000 But, you know, half your paycheck. 1.00

01:57:34.000 Gone.

01:57:35.000 Also with bad judging.

01:57:36.000 Half your paycheck with a decision that people don't even agree with.

01:57:39.000 And you lose half of your money.

01:57:41.000 That happens all the time.

01:57:42.000 You know what my mistake was?

01:57:43.000 I should have put Chris Curtis in my corner.

01:57:46.000 Because, like...

01:57:49.000 Because Kurt would have talked.

01:57:51.000 He threw a couple combinations, all missed.

01:57:55.000 And his coach was like, yeah, man, those are great. 0.99

01:57:58.000 Those are all fucking landing. 0.93

01:57:59.000 I'm like, when you box, man, when you box, a lot of punches look like they land, but they're missing by, like, if you go... 0.99

01:58:05.000 Right, and you're turning your chin.

01:58:06.000 If you go in a slow motion, I mean, after the Jerrikanier fight, I had bruises all over my chest because that's where he was landing. 1.00

01:58:11.000 And I kind of wish I had Kurt in my corner just to tell his corner to shut the fuck up and say, no, motherfucker, those aren't landing. 1.00

01:58:17.000 What are you talking about? 1.00

01:58:18.000 Right, right.

01:58:19.000 That is a crazy thing, though, especially at the Apex.

01:58:22.000 Boy, that can influence judges. 0.99

01:58:23.000 Because the Apex, there's no fucking crowd noise. 0.99

01:58:26.000 You can hear everything, everybody. 0.99

01:58:27.000 I mean, my whole chest was just bruised.

01:58:29.000 But, I mean, those aren't landed punches.

01:58:31.000 Right.

01:58:31.000 So, yeah, no, I really wish they would change that.

01:58:33.000 Yeah.

01:58:35.000 I wish they would, too.

01:58:36.000 That's my only complaint about the UFC, really. 0.98

01:58:38.000 I wish people made more money, and I wish people didn't have a fucking win bonus. 0.96

01:58:43.000 They don't have that in boxing. 0.98

01:58:44.000 And I see other MMA organizations adopting it, too, and I'm like, man, this is an opportunity to stand out.

01:58:50.000 Don't do that.

01:58:51.000 Have you ever got to know any boxers on a personal level?

01:58:54.000 Yeah, I've known a few boxers.

01:58:55.000 Man, it's so shady.

01:58:56.000 It's the shadiest business.

01:58:58.000 Like, guys, most low-level boxing fights, until you get to 20 fights, 18 fights, generally these guys are paying their opponents to fight.

01:59:08.000 Very, very often. 0.87

01:59:09.000 And that's why when you go look at a boxing record, it's like, what the fuck did you've lost? 0.95

01:59:12.000 You've had 100 fights. 0.98

01:59:13.000 You're like 90. You're like one in 99. There's a lot of setups.

01:59:17.000 But again, it's not that they want the setups. 0.98

01:59:20.000 It's hard to get because these fucking boxers like princesses, they know how important their record is. 1.00

01:59:25.000 If they take one bad loss and it goes from 16 to one. 0.99

01:59:28.000 Right. 1.00

01:59:28.000 It's a fucking restart. 1.00

01:59:30.000 That's one thing that I really do love about MMA, is that when fighters lose, it's not the end of their career. 0.99

01:59:35.000 And that the sport and the culture of sport has embraced the fact that guys get better through losses.

01:59:40.000 Boxing's also easy, though.

01:59:42.000 It's definitely easier.

01:59:43.000 Yeah, but I mean, like...

01:59:44.000 But it's different.

01:59:45.000 I mean, I wouldn't say easy, but it's just, at the highest levels, it's not easy.

01:59:50.000 I mean, when you watch, like, Lomachenko, Devin Haney, there's...

01:59:54.000 There's nothing easy about that fight. 1.00

01:59:55.000 Yeah, fuck. 1.00

01:59:56.000 Loma Chico's so fucking good. 1.00

01:59:57.000 Fuck, he's good. 0.99

01:59:58.000 I was telling my buddy Robin, 16-0 guy, and I was like, well, we spar on Friday. 1.00

02:00:02.000 I'm like, Robin, what did you do all week, man?

02:00:04.000 Tell me. 0.99

02:00:04.000 Tell me about your fucking week, Robin. 0.99

02:00:05.000 He goes, well, I ran. 1.00

02:00:06.000 I hit pads.

02:00:07.000 I did bag work.

02:00:08.000 I ran. 0.95

02:00:09.000 I'm like, well, I grappled on fucking Monday, I sparred on Tuesday, I wrestled on Thursday, I sparred on Thursday, Tuesday, and now me and you are boxing, sir. 0.99

02:00:19.000 Yeah, boxing is fucking... 0.99

02:00:20.000 That's why I fucking... 0.99

02:00:21.000 It's definitely easier, and also, less guys pull out of fights, for sure, because you have less injuries. 0.97

02:00:26.000 When you're not getting wrestled, and you're not doing jiu-jitsu...

02:00:29.000 That's why Francis wanted to do boxing.

02:00:31.000 Boxing's easy.

02:00:31.000 Well, also, he wants a big-ass payday.

02:00:33.000 He's like 37, 38. I really wanted to watch him fight Jon Jones.

02:00:37.000 I did too.

02:00:38.000 I did too.

02:00:39.000 It'd be very interesting.

02:00:40.000 I think Jon Jones hates me, though.

02:00:42.000 Jon Jones hates you?

02:00:43.000 Why?

02:00:43.000 I just go hard on him, dude.

02:00:44.000 He posted some fucking thing. 1.00

02:00:46.000 And we're both sponsored by Monster, too. 1.00

02:00:48.000 I almost fucking ruined my Monster deal. 0.94

02:00:52.000 Yikes. 0.97

02:00:52.000 But, like, he posted something. 0.97

02:00:54.000 And I don't follow Jon.

02:00:55.000 And, again, I like Jon.

02:00:56.000 Jon Jones is...

02:00:57.000 Again, I don't think Jon Jones is the greatest because you get popped with that kind of steroids.

02:01:01.000 I think there should be lifetime bans for steroid use. 0.99

02:01:03.000 Lifetime fucking ban. 0.99

02:01:04.000 It'd be one thing if, like, you have a tainted supplement. 0.99

02:01:08.000 Like, let's just say, like, this was tainted.

02:01:09.000 And I'm like, you know, this is what it was. 0.99

02:01:11.000 Joe Rogan fucking gave me this. 0.98

02:01:12.000 Right. 0.99

02:01:13.000 Maybe, whatever.

02:01:14.000 But a lifetime ban, dude, for intentional use.

02:01:17.000 Do you know that he intentionally used, though?

02:01:19.000 I mean, I wasn't.

02:01:19.000 Imagine ruining a guy's career if you're wrong.

02:01:22.000 I mean, I'm sure fucking Jamie could pull it up, but I'm pretty sure it was some shit, right? 0.99

02:01:28.000 Well, here's the thing. 0.99

02:01:29.000 Derek from moreplatesmoredates.com, you ever see that guy?

02:01:32.000 That guy is the most knowledgeable.

02:01:35.000 When he talks about blood work and blood testing and whether or not there's indicators that show that someone had taken something... 0.93

02:01:44.000 But you know he his take on that is very different and also his taken even Daniel Cormier He was saying that Daniel Cormier is like something's wrong with his blood work, too But I don't know what that means so I go hard on John Jones He posted something about like I think his kid got like and again This is me being fucking CT half retardation his kid got like a A dog, like, came out. 0.99

02:02:06.000 Some crazy shit happened, but the kid was fine. 0.92

02:02:08.000 Nothing injured. 0.99

02:02:08.000 I didn't know the story. 0.99

02:02:10.000 Okay.

02:02:10.000 He said, you know, like, I love the Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

02:02:15.000 And I, like, retweeted. 1.00

02:02:16.000 I'm like, bro, like, the only one that you fucking like is a devil, man. 1.00

02:02:19.000 Like, should we go through your fucking highlight reel? 1.00

02:02:21.000 You hit a fucking pregnant lady, you drove away, you smacked your wife. 1.00

02:02:24.000 Like, you got a, you got a, you got a highlight reel, bro. 1.00

02:02:28.000 You got a long, long highlight reel being a piece of shit, you know? 1.00

02:02:32.000 So, yeah, that almost fucked my sponsorship deal. 1.00

02:02:35.000 Yikes. 0.86

02:02:35.000 But I mean, it's true, though. 0.86

02:02:37.000 Like, I hate these motherfuckers. 1.00

02:02:38.000 Like, this is what I'm gonna do. 1.00

02:02:39.000 If I ever do something really bad, you guys, I'm gonna be like John Jones.

02:02:42.000 I think those guys don't want to be bad.

02:02:45.000 I think there's a lot...

02:02:47.000 We're not just talking about John.

02:02:48.000 I'm talking about a lot of people that embrace the Lord.

02:02:50.000 I think they generally hate what they've done.

02:02:53.000 And they feel terrible.

02:02:55.000 And so, then they go to Jesus to try to, like, cleanse themselves and try to find a better path.

02:03:02.000 I think it's because they're not bad people. 0.97

02:03:04.000 They just recognize they've done bad things, especially when they're partying and getting fucked up. 0.94

02:03:08.000 Well, that's what's funny, too. 1.00

02:03:09.000 I'm the piece of shit, dude, but I've never hit a fucking pregnant lady. 1.00

02:03:13.000 That's fucked up, dude. 1.00

02:03:15.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:03:15.000 And then drive away, dude. 1.00

02:03:17.000 You didn't stop.

02:03:18.000 There's certainly some indefensible things.

02:03:20.000 Yeah, so what I'm saying, you guys, Jon Jones, it's funny enough, I'm always like me and Baha Muhammad. 0.98

02:03:28.000 I think I said some shit about Palestine. 0.99

02:03:30.000 They should bend the knee or some shit. 1.00

02:03:33.000 Palestine would be way better if they threw out Hamas and they went to Israel and said, hey, let's make this shit better. 1.00

02:03:40.000 It would be way fucking better. 1.00

02:03:42.000 But then you have somebody like Baha Mohammed who's fucking living in Miami. 1.00

02:03:46.000 He's probably fucking, you know, barely ever goes to Palestine. 1.00

02:03:48.000 Yeah, fuck you, Israel. 1.00

02:03:50.000 Like, you know, propagating war. 1.00

02:03:52.000 Instead of bringing the olive branch and saying, hey, this sucks. 0.97

02:03:57.000 How do we make it suck less? 1.00

02:03:58.000 He's like, no, fuck you, Israel. 1.00

02:04:00.000 You're a coward, bro. 1.00

02:04:02.000 You sit here in America and you say divisive shit from your couch on your Twitter thumbs. 1.00

02:04:10.000 You just like causing problems. 1.00

02:04:12.000 But it's truth, dude.

02:04:13.000 It's facts.

02:04:14.000 I know what you're saying.

02:04:15.000 It's fact.

02:04:16.000 That's a complicated issue, though.

02:04:17.000 The Israel-Palestine thing.

02:04:18.000 I've tried to understand that many, many times.

02:04:21.000 Talked to many, many people about it. 0.99

02:04:23.000 It is fucking complicated. 0.99

02:04:24.000 Well, the problem is, Palestine, you lose. 1.00

02:04:27.000 You lose. 1.00

02:04:27.000 You just gotta bend the fucking knee, dude. 1.00

02:04:30.000 And this is what I said about Ukraine, dude. 1.00

02:04:32.000 I got a lot of shit. 1.00

02:04:32.000 I was like, you guys, Ukraine just needs to bend the fucking knee. 1.00

02:04:35.000 And everyone's like, why would you say that about Ukraine? 0.99

02:04:38.000 I'm like, because there's no path to success.

02:04:39.000 Yeah, but it's even more complicated than that.

02:04:42.000 Ukraine's problem is there's...

02:04:45.000 There's NATO forces encroaching closer and closer to...

02:04:49.000 Yeah, we put missiles there.

02:04:51.000 It's provoked.

02:04:52.000 Imagine if China allied with Mexico and we're like, hey, we're going to put some missiles. 0.98

02:04:55.000 And this is not in any way saying that what Putin did wasn't fucking horrible. 1.00

02:04:58.000 Yeah, no, Putin's a piece of shit. 1.00

02:04:59.000 Yeah, a piece of shit. 1.00

02:05:00.000 But all that is... 1.00

02:05:02.000 The whole thing is calm. 0.98

02:05:03.000 But I got so much shit for that because I was like, yeah, Ukraine should just bend. 1.00

02:05:07.000 And by the way, Zelensky's a fucking piece of shit, the president of Ukraine. 1.00

02:05:10.000 He's like throwing political parties in jail. 1.00

02:05:12.000 He's a piece of shit itself. 1.00

02:05:13.000 I don't know how we look at him like a democracy. 1.00

02:05:17.000 But I was like, yeah, Ukraine should just bend the knee. 1.00

02:05:19.000 And everyone's like, oh, Sean, why would you say that?

02:05:21.000 Why would you say that?

02:05:23.000 You have...

02:05:25.000 Doomed your country.

02:05:26.000 I mean, did you see the pictures of the cities?

02:05:28.000 Just rubble.

02:05:29.000 Rubble. 1.00

02:05:30.000 Like, everything's fucked. 0.99

02:05:32.000 And it's only... 0.99

02:05:33.000 I mean, it's not over.

02:05:36.000 But it's not over.

02:05:37.000 So they're gonna keep bombing things.

02:05:38.000 How do you come back from that as a country?

02:05:40.000 Your kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids.

02:05:42.000 They are 100% going to wake up every day with a Ukraine flag. 0.82

02:05:46.000 And let's say that happens. 0.99

02:05:47.000 But they are gonna be in utter fucking poverty. 1.00

02:05:50.000 You've fucking doomed your... 1.00

02:05:52.000 And again, it sucks. 1.00

02:05:54.000 And the same thing with Palestine. 1.00

02:05:56.000 The situation sucks, although Israel is way better than fucking Russia. 1.00

02:06:01.000 The situation sucks, but in the grand scheme of things, man, you just doom your kids. 1.00

02:06:08.000 Every time you sit there and you send out a tweet, you're making your kids live in poverty and fucking war. 1.00

02:06:16.000 That's rough, man. 1.00

02:06:17.000 It's fucking rough, dude. 0.99

02:06:18.000 It's very complicated. 0.99

02:06:20.000 All those things are very, very complicated and having a conversation between two meatheads on a podcast. 0.99

02:06:25.000 Oh yeah, we're retarded. 1.00

02:06:26.000 But it's like, dude, I mean, could you picture like, I mean, if you were on your tweet tweeter right now talking about like, fuck Israel and all that, I'd be like, Joe, you're a fucking idiot, dude. 1.00

02:06:37.000 Like all you're doing is... 1.00

02:06:38.000 It'd be one thing if you were there fucking lighting kite bombs from schools. 0.99

02:06:42.000 It'd be one thing if you were the guy on the ground in a hospital launching rockets at Israel. 0.99

02:06:47.000 I'm like, well, at least you're living it.

02:06:50.000 But just to be in Miami doing it on the Tweet to Tweet. 0.99

02:06:53.000 Just shitty, man. 0.98

02:06:55.000 People just shouldn't have to die, dude. 0.99

02:06:57.000 Shouldn't have to die.

02:06:58.000 No, they definitely shouldn't have to die.

02:06:59.000 And there's also so much money involved in war.

02:07:03.000 That's the scariest thought.

02:07:04.000 The scariest thought is that people are willing to make decisions that they know is going to cross thousands and thousands of people their lives.

02:07:10.000 You know, with how much money we gave to Ukraine, I talked about this in a press conference.

02:07:14.000 That would have financed cancer, like American cancer treatments for like 5-10 years.

02:07:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:07:19.000 Like, fuck, dude. 1.00

02:07:21.000 It's so crazy. 1.00

02:07:24.000 You're just hopeless, dude. 0.99

02:07:25.000 It's utterly fucking hopeless, dude. 0.99

02:07:27.000 Yeah. 0.84

02:07:27.000 It's probably not something that we can fix. 0.84

02:07:31.000 No, we'll never fix it.

02:07:33.000 I do want to know, though, before we wrap this up, about your training.

02:07:37.000 When did you learn?

02:07:39.000 What made you do so much sparring?

02:07:43.000 When did you sort of embrace that?

02:07:45.000 Because it's one thing that does separate you from everybody else is this timing and control of distance that you really only get from a lot of sparring.

02:07:53.000 And so there's guys like Max Holloway, who's the elite of the elite.

02:07:57.000 Who said at this point in time, I don't spar anymore because I get banged up too much sparring.

02:08:00.000 You know, he said that to you, but I ran into him and I asked him and he kind of like laughed.

02:08:04.000 He's like, no, do I still spar?

02:08:05.000 I just don't think he's...

02:08:06.000 But here's the thing about Max Holloway. 0.98

02:08:07.000 He is so fucking good. 0.98

02:08:10.000 There's not many people who spar him that hit him. 0.99

02:08:13.000 Right.

02:08:13.000 Same with me.

02:08:13.000 It's like, again, I could get knocked out.

02:08:16.000 Max could get knocked out.

02:08:16.000 I could go spar every single day, all day long, and I could say I don't really could take damage.

02:08:21.000 I mean, I proved it to that stupid mouthpiece they had me wear. 0.99

02:08:24.000 Right. 1.00

02:08:24.000 But you know, again, it just comes to obsessive. 1.00

02:08:26.000 I started training because I was an angry fucking kid. 0.99

02:08:29.000 I turned out I loved sparring. 0.99

02:08:31.000 And it just makes me happier.

02:08:33.000 Has other people in your gym sort of embraced that when they see your success with that?

02:08:37.000 So you know what it is, dude?

02:08:38.000 You have people living this world fantasy.

02:08:41.000 Like, again, not naming names.

02:08:44.000 I train with great guys.

02:08:45.000 But I've talked to some guys, and they're like, well, in a fight, a lot of guys say, well, training's not a fight.

02:08:50.000 Training's not a fight.

02:08:51.000 And, you know, in a fight, even though I don't train or spar hard, I'll turn it up. 0.96

02:08:54.000 And I always tell these guys, dude, like, I know you say that, but I'll fucking put 10 G's on the ground right now. 0.88

02:09:01.000 You match it.

02:09:03.000 Whatever you want to do, you match it. 1.00

02:09:04.000 Spar me three to five rounds and I will bring you in such fucking misery that you will fucking quit. 0.99

02:09:13.000 And a lot of fighters, man, we got to say things and make ourselves feel better, you know? 0.99

02:09:17.000 We got to say, like, oh, in a fight we do this, in a fight we do this.

02:09:20.000 Right, right. 0.99

02:09:21.000 And so you think the best approach is just to fight all the fucking time. 1.00

02:09:24.000 All the time. 0.99

02:09:25.000 But again, my style is not taking damage. 0.99

02:09:27.000 Like Chris Curtis, it's hard for Chris Curtis to spar 24-7 because that man, like, he's, like, a fucking in the pocket. 0.98

02:09:34.000 Like, no matter what, he's taking damage. 0.99

02:09:36.000 Right.

02:09:37.000 So it's just easy, man, when I don't take damage.

02:09:38.000 My style is, like, evolved around liking the spar.

02:09:42.000 This is good for the brain, dude.

02:09:43.000 You know this.

02:09:44.000 You gotta start doing DMT. Go lay in your fucking float tank. 1.00

02:09:47.000 But it's interesting because there's no best way to do anything. 1.00

02:09:52.000 It's like, what is bringing you success?

02:09:54.000 And what brings you success is unique.

02:09:56.000 Also, low self-esteem, man.

02:09:58.000 And this is like, we talk about a guy like Jon Jones.

02:10:01.000 Again, I'm not sure that talk.

02:10:02.000 He's probably one of the best fighters ever fucking fight in the UFC. Having low self-esteem is rough. 0.93

02:10:09.000 And a lot of us have super low self-esteem. 0.98

02:10:11.000 Like, a lot of us fucking look in the mirror and, you know... 1.00

02:10:14.000 Like, you take someone like Jon Jones, that motherfucker was inventing moves. 1.00

02:10:18.000 He was like... 0.99

02:10:19.000 When he was back in the day, like, dude, he was inventing...

02:10:22.000 That spinning, like, when he had the...

02:10:24.000 I actually did it against Rye Hall. 0.95

02:10:25.000 I was so fucking stoked. 0.63

02:10:26.000 I'm a fan of Jon Jones, right? 0.96

02:10:27.000 Let go of the single leg, boom, spinning back up.

02:10:30.000 Well, that was Jon Jones.

02:10:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:10:32.000 But you gotta understand, Jon Jones is a fucking super athlete. 0.99

02:10:34.000 Since birth, man, that kid was told that he was fucking gold. 1.00

02:10:38.000 You know, his brothers are fucking gold. 1.00

02:10:39.000 He's gold. 1.00

02:10:40.000 So he goes in there and is just like, I'm fucking, I'm made of gold. 1.00

02:10:43.000 I can just go fucking do that. 0.98

02:10:45.000 But he opened up his world title fight with Shogun with a flying knee. 0.99

02:10:48.000 Exactly.

02:10:48.000 But you take a lot of us who has, like, low self-esteem.

02:10:52.000 Like, especially, like, my buddy Chris Curtis.

02:10:55.000 It's nice going to a fight and I sparred Alex.

02:10:57.000 I sparred Artem Levin. 0.97

02:10:59.000 I sparred me and Francis Aghan who had a fucking three round war. 0.99

02:11:05.000 Really? 0.98

02:11:06.000 Oh yeah, I banged with Francis.

02:11:08.000 Jesus Christ.

02:11:10.000 What is that like?

02:11:13.000 So heavyweights are easier to hit and not get hit, but the problem is they just touch you, dude, and it feels like you get hit by a truck. 0.98

02:11:20.000 But I always tell Francis, by the way, if you've met, you obviously, Francis is the fucking greatest guy. 0.95

02:11:26.000 He's a great guy. 0.99

02:11:27.000 Bro, he's like, you talk to Francis and you're like, dude, you're a fucking saint. 0.99

02:11:33.000 That guy's been through some shit. 0.99

02:11:35.000 So I walked into the gym once, and it was like my birthday, the day for him. 0.99

02:11:39.000 I was like, why didn't you tell me it was my birthday? 1.00

02:11:40.000 And I was like, those fucking birthdays are for women and children. 1.00

02:11:43.000 I don't fucking celebrate birthdays. 1.00

02:11:45.000 Francis is like, Sean, Sean, what is a birthday? 0.99

02:11:49.000 What is a birthday?

02:11:50.000 I was like, Francis, what are you talking about?

02:11:51.000 He's like, there is no presents in the salt mines.

02:11:53.000 There is no cake in the salt mines. 1.00

02:11:56.000 I was like, fuck, Francis. 1.00

02:11:58.000 It made me feel like a fucking pussy. 1.00

02:12:01.000 The most sincere guy, bro. 1.00

02:12:02.000 The most sincere guy was like, Francis.

02:12:05.000 No offense, man, but I would never want to date a girl you dated just because, like, I mean, maybe like six of these combined.

02:12:13.000 And Francis, I'm not even joking, bro.

02:12:15.000 I'm like, I mean, I'm being comic, I'm joking.

02:12:18.000 He's like, Sean, Sean, Sean, you don't, when you know the way of a woman, he's like, you can make a woman, you know, climax with the finger. 0.98

02:12:26.000 And he's like, he's like having this heart-to-heart talk with me about, like, pleasuring a woman. 0.75

02:12:31.000 And I'm like, Francis, I'm just making a joke, dude. 1.00

02:12:33.000 I'm just fucking with you, bro. 0.96

02:12:36.000 But yeah, the most, the sincere, oh yeah, but sparring France is fun. 0.99

02:12:38.000 I mean, I like sparring France. 1.00

02:12:39.000 Like, come on, you fucking bitch, let's fight. 1.00

02:12:41.000 Wow. 1.00

02:12:42.000 Because he scares me. 0.99

02:12:43.000 He scares the fuck out of me. 1.00

02:12:43.000 He's a big, scary black man. 1.00

02:12:44.000 He scares the fuck out of me. 1.00

02:12:45.000 He scares the fuck out of everybody. 0.98

02:12:46.000 Yeah, but like that's... 1.00

02:12:47.000 The power that guy has is fucking ridiculous. 0.99

02:12:48.000 But what I'm saying, though, it's like, when he scares me, like that little voice, you know, me hiding underneath the bed from my dad, and like, that little child fucking looks at him and I feel fear. 1.00

02:12:59.000 I'm like, I gotta fight that motherfucker. 1.00

02:13:00.000 I sincerely hope he's successful. 0.99

02:13:03.000 I hope that him leaving as the heavyweight champion, and I really hope he gets a boxing match. 0.98

02:13:08.000 But boxing, they're fucking stringing him along, man. 0.90

02:13:11.000 They keep promising him this fight and promising him that fight, and no one's going to fight him. 0.98

02:13:16.000 Yeah.

02:13:17.000 You know?

02:13:17.000 But no, he's doing the good PFL thing.

02:13:19.000 I mean, he's like, he's in there.

02:13:20.000 But he's not going to fight in PFL until 2024. Yeah.

02:13:23.000 Which is crazy. 1.00

02:13:24.000 Yeah, but man, fuck it. 1.00

02:13:25.000 Like, I don't understand why. 1.00

02:13:26.000 Yeah, fucking A, dude. 0.99

02:13:27.000 Just money. 0.99

02:13:27.000 I'm sure he doesn't have to fight, dude. 0.99

02:13:29.000 He has fucking money. 0.99

02:13:30.000 Well, yeah, but he wants the real money. 1.00

02:13:32.000 He wants the, I don't have to work again for the rest of my life money.

02:13:35.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:13:35.000 Go fuck yourself money. 1.00

02:13:36.000 Yeah, and I really hope he gets that. 1.00

02:13:38.000 And I think they fucking dangled that out in front of him.

02:13:42.000 Yeah, and then he got hyped up, and it was like, you see what these box are making. 0.93

02:13:46.000 My biggest thing, dude, like the PFL, everyone's like, oh, Sean, why do you talk so highly of PFL and Bellator?

02:13:51.000 I want everybody to win.

02:13:52.000 I want everybody to win. 0.98

02:13:54.000 Competition's fucking good. 0.97

02:13:55.000 Good for everybody. 0.98

02:13:56.000 Johnny Eblom, he's my boy in Bellator. 0.59

02:13:58.000 He's a beast. 0.99

02:13:59.000 Oh, I fucking love Johnny Eblom. 0.99

02:14:01.000 185 pounders on earth. 1.00

02:14:02.000 Fuck, dude. 1.00

02:14:02.000 Me and Johnny Abram have wars, man. 1.00

02:14:03.000 I fucking love the guy. 0.99

02:14:04.000 I want him to fucking make money. 0.99

02:14:06.000 I want Saadi Busai to win the championship. 0.99

02:14:09.000 It's like, people are so brand loyal.

02:14:12.000 And I'm a company man, but it's like, I love In-N-Out, dude. 0.83

02:14:15.000 I fucking love me some In-N-Out. 0.99

02:14:16.000 Fucking love In-N-Out. 0.99

02:14:18.000 But, like, I also want five... 0.98

02:14:20.000 I don't really like five guys, bro.

02:14:21.000 I like five guys.

02:14:22.000 Ah, it's too greasy, bro.

02:14:23.000 It's too greasy.

02:14:23.000 Too greasy?

02:14:24.000 Interesting.

02:14:24.000 But I'll give you jalapenos and bacon.

02:14:26.000 The fries are, like, mush, bro.

02:14:28.000 They're great.

02:14:29.000 The fries are great.

02:14:30.000 What are you, communists?

02:14:32.000 You want, like, five guys?

02:14:33.000 Maybe. 0.99

02:14:34.000 How the fuck is going on? 0.97

02:14:35.000 But what I'm saying, though, right, is I want five guys... 0.92

02:14:38.000 I want five guys to lower their prices. 1.00

02:14:41.000 I want them to fucking steal in and out. 0.98

02:14:42.000 You want competition. 0.99

02:14:43.000 I want competition, man.

02:14:44.000 America's based off competition. 0.65

02:14:46.000 Yes.

02:14:46.000 You know, and that's the problem.

02:14:47.000 Not enough competition, you guys.

02:14:48.000 Agreed.

02:14:49.000 So support, you know, what I would say is support Bellator, support PFL. If you're a fighter...

02:14:54.000 Support one.

02:14:55.000 Support everybody.

02:14:56.000 One FC, you know?

02:14:57.000 Yeah.

02:14:57.000 Yeah, it's better for everybody.

02:14:59.000 I like, I love that Fra Tang guy, dude.

02:15:01.000 That guy's a...

02:15:01.000 He's fun to watch.

02:15:03.000 Bro, I watch that guy always hype me up. 1.00

02:15:05.000 He's just like, fucking... 1.00

02:15:06.000 Yeah, oh, he's a little animal. 1.00

02:15:07.000 But when you're this fucking big, you know, things hurt a little bit less. 0.99

02:15:12.000 There's some reality to that, for sure. 0.99

02:15:15.000 But it's like watching a woman just way fucking better. 1.00

02:15:18.000 He's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

02:15:19.000 I hate watching women fights, by the way. 1.00

02:15:20.000 God, I hate it.

02:15:21.000 And I love that Mighty Mouse fight with him.

02:15:23.000 I really love that fight.

02:15:24.000 That's a wild idea.

02:15:25.000 Like, have one round Muay Thai, second round MMA. Yeah, I mean, I like that, but just stick to Muay Thai, dude.

02:15:31.000 Well, that would be good for him to just stick to Muay Thai, but I love the fact that Mighty Mouse took that challenge on him.

02:15:38.000 I love that.

02:15:39.000 Well, it'd be cool just to be like, why does it have to be like, hey, I need to beat you at MMA? You are a kickboxer.

02:15:44.000 You are an MMA fighter. 1.00

02:15:45.000 It's two fucking different sports. 0.99

02:15:47.000 Right. 0.99

02:15:47.000 Yeah, but it's exciting to see. 0.99

02:15:50.000 Let's see what happens.

02:15:51.000 See if he can survive the first round in just pure Muay Thai.

02:15:54.000 No takedowns. 0.80

02:15:56.000 No, no, I think that clown show is that Jake Paul match. 1.00

02:15:58.000 It's a fucking clown show. 1.00

02:15:59.000 What are they doing? 1.00

02:16:00.000 Is he still fighting AD? Is that still going on?

02:16:02.000 Oh, that one.

02:16:03.000 Yeah, I thought, because he's got a PFL contract as well, right?

02:16:06.000 Oh, he's right, yeah.

02:16:06.000 Yeah, so I think he's going to fight in PFL. You know, dude, he's one of those guys that make me so mad.

02:16:10.000 They just, they game the system so well. 0.99

02:16:12.000 They fucking, he's such a, I'd say he's smart, dude. 1.00

02:16:15.000 Clever. 1.00

02:16:16.000 All that fucking money from TikTok and just like... 0.98

02:16:19.000 Yeah, but the guy's fighting Anderson Silva. 0.99

02:16:23.000 The guy's in there, you know, boxing Tommy Fury. 0.99

02:16:26.000 Bro, who the fuck is Tommy Fury? 0.99

02:16:27.000 Tommy Fury can box, dude. 0.98

02:16:29.000 When's the last time Tommy Fury boxed?

02:16:31.000 Before he fought Jake Paul, he fought four months before that.

02:16:34.000 But it's a thing you're saying, but he's skillful.

02:16:37.000 Bro, he's a part-time fighter.

02:16:38.000 He did it on a reality TV show.

02:16:41.000 He's a handsome guy. 1.00

02:16:43.000 I would fuck Tommy Fury up. 1.00

02:16:44.000 I would fucking put hands on him and Paul. 1.00

02:16:47.000 But you know what I'm saying? 0.98

02:16:48.000 Yeah, he's a good-looking dude, man. 0.96

02:16:49.000 I don't fucking know.

02:16:50.000 Have you thought about doing straight boxing? 0.99

02:16:53.000 I've been like, I've had guys talk to me and be like, dude, you would fucking cry. 0.89

02:16:56.000 Because that's what you really enjoy, right? 0.98

02:16:58.000 Yeah, like boxing.

02:16:59.000 You don't throw a lot of kicks.

02:17:00.000 Yeah, no.

02:17:00.000 I know you have real good jujitsu, but it's not like you're taking guys down and submitting them.

02:17:05.000 If the money was right and someone's like, hey, we'll pay you this money to box, yeah, fuck yeah, I'd do it. 0.90

02:17:10.000 But, you know, everything is money, dude. 0.99

02:17:12.000 I'd fucking... 0.99

02:17:12.000 Joe Ruby, if somebody fucking came here and put the fucking... 0.99

02:17:15.000 A million dollars on this table right now to attack Joe Rogan. 1.00

02:17:17.000 I would attack Joe Rogan and deal with the court case later as your special forces guys come and shoot me. 0.96

02:17:21.000 You know?

02:17:23.000 Yeah, well, I think you got some real amazing opportunities coming in the UFC. And then if something opens up for a boxing match...

02:17:33.000 But either way, I'm not poor.

02:17:33.000 The Paul guys, they're like, your size.

02:17:35.000 Yeah, dude, I'm not poor, which is nice. 0.95

02:17:37.000 Yeah, I'd fucking put work on it.

02:17:38.000 It's nice, right? 0.93

02:17:38.000 Dude, not being poor, you guys, is so nice. 0.93

02:17:40.000 I mean, fucking Rogan has that, like, go fuck yourself money. 1.00

02:17:44.000 Rogan has the fucking, I don't have to do shit for the rest of my life money. 1.00

02:17:47.000 But you're still doing shit, bro. 1.00

02:17:48.000 I applaud you for that. 1.00

02:17:49.000 Yeah, you gotta still do shit. 1.00

02:17:50.000 Well, the problem is, when you stop doing shit, you die. 1.00

02:17:52.000 You just become a lazy old sack of shit. 1.00

02:17:54.000 Yeah, your brain starts going away. 1.00

02:17:55.000 Yeah, but the beautiful thing about having money is now you don't have to think about it.

02:17:57.000 Now just do what you enjoy doing.

02:17:59.000 So I just do what I like doing.

02:18:00.000 Is it weird that you could just wake up and just like, hey, I want to buy a motorcycle. 0.99

02:18:03.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.99

02:18:04.000 Yeah, it's weird. 0.99

02:18:05.000 Like, there's nothing you could think about.

02:18:06.000 Like, I want to go buy an airplane. 1.00

02:18:08.000 I can go buy a fucking airplane. 0.99

02:18:09.000 Yeah, but that's when it gets wild. 1.00

02:18:10.000 Like, when people start buying houses and airplanes.

02:18:12.000 Because, like, then you'll run out of money.

02:18:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:18:14.000 Yeah, you could run out of money.

02:18:15.000 You could be a billionaire and run out of money. 0.98

02:18:16.000 But you can go buy, like, a $300,000 Cessna and give no fucks. 0.96

02:18:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:18:20.000 Yeah, fuck, it's weird. 1.00

02:18:22.000 It's weird. 1.00

02:18:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:18:22.000 Especially growing up poor. 1.00

02:18:24.000 It's very weird.

02:18:24.000 Yo, Black Rifle, guys.

02:18:25.000 But I don't think about money.

02:18:28.000 What I've done with it, I've recognized, okay, that's an aspect of my life that's covered.

02:18:32.000 So let's just not make any decisions based only on money.

02:18:36.000 Whereas when I was younger, like when I hosted Fear Factor, I was like, oh, it's good money.

02:18:39.000 I'll do it.

02:18:40.000 I would never do anything like that now.

02:18:42.000 It's like I don't want to do anything just for money.

02:18:44.000 So now I just do things that I really enjoy doing.

02:18:46.000 Your kids, are they going to work?

02:18:48.000 100%.

02:18:49.000 100%.

02:18:50.000 Yeah.

02:18:50.000 Yeah, listen, this life is not...

02:18:52.000 If you just give people everything... 0.99

02:18:54.000 It fucking ruins them. 1.00

02:18:55.000 It ruins them. 1.00

02:18:56.000 It ruins them.

02:18:57.000 They win the lottery when you're 18, your life is going to be hell. 0.99

02:18:59.000 Yeah, you're going to build a business and all of a sudden your kids just fucking ruin it. 1.00

02:19:03.000 Their kids are drug addicts. 1.00

02:19:04.000 Look at Hunter Biden. 1.00

02:19:06.000 They found coke in the White House.

02:19:07.000 Did you see that?

02:19:08.000 Did they really?

02:19:08.000 Yes!

02:19:09.000 They shut the White House down.

02:19:10.000 They found coke in the White House after he visited.

02:19:12.000 I think it's hilarious.

02:19:14.000 They're trying to cover this up.

02:19:15.000 Would you vote if it was Trump versus Biden?

02:19:17.000 Would you vote for Trump?

02:19:18.000 Or would you just not vote?

02:19:20.000 I would vote for Trump over Biden.

02:19:22.000 I said that before.

02:19:23.000 I said that before I'd vote for Trump over Biden.

02:19:25.000 But I voted for Libertarian in the last election.

02:19:27.000 My man.

02:19:28.000 I voted Joe Jorgensen in the last election.

02:19:30.000 I think Robert Kennedy has a real good shot.

02:19:32.000 I think he has a real good shot.

02:19:34.000 And we're more than a year away from the election.

02:19:36.000 I think people are waking up. 0.99

02:19:37.000 Like, even the fucking... 0.99

02:19:38.000 I was watching the press secretary get grilled today. 0.99

02:19:42.000 All the different journalists are starting to act like journalists. 1.00

02:19:45.000 Fuck, dude, right? 1.00

02:19:45.000 They're going after her, asking her all these questions about these fucking emails and these WhatsApp chats that show that there's very clear bribery going on. 1.00

02:19:58.000 Yeah, fuck. 1.00

02:19:59.000 Pay to play, man. 1.00

02:19:59.000 And she's trying to like, oh, I'm not going to get into that. 1.00

02:20:02.000 I'm not going to talk about business, family businesses.

02:20:05.000 You know what's so crazy about America, though?

02:20:06.000 Yeah.

02:20:06.000 And then Joe Biden talking about, oh, you need a plane to take on the government.

02:20:12.000 Americans are so fucking pussified. 1.00

02:20:15.000 Americans are so fucking pussified, dude, that it is factual that we have sold this country. 1.00

02:20:21.000 It's factual that we lied for Iraq. 1.00

02:20:24.000 We have done so much fucked up shit. 1.00

02:20:26.000 It's not we. 1.00

02:20:27.000 It's giant corporations that can lie to people in order to make money.

02:20:31.000 But as Americans, we all sit there and be like, huzzah, who's next?

02:20:35.000 Yeah, but we don't know what's going on.

02:20:37.000 That's the problem is the media's bought and paid for.

02:20:40.000 But we do know what's going on now.

02:20:41.000 Now we know what was going on in 2001. But even then, what do you think is going to happen in the next election?

02:20:46.000 They're going to find some other stooge on the Democrat-Republican party.

02:20:49.000 We're going to vote for them, and the cycle continues.

02:20:52.000 We'll see. 1.00

02:20:52.000 Yeah, no, it's fucking damn shit, dude. 1.00

02:20:55.000 Fucking A, guys. 1.00

02:20:55.000 Listen, Sean. 1.00

02:20:56.000 I'm down for the revolution.

02:20:57.000 Rogan's down for revolution, guys. 1.00

02:20:59.000 Let's go fucking storm the Capitol. 1.00

02:21:01.000 It'll be fun. 0.99

02:21:02.000 Congratulations on your fight, and I really look forward to seeing you next time you're in there against anybody and everybody, whoever it is.

02:21:08.000 I'm a fan.

02:21:09.000 Hey man, I'm pseudo-famous now. 0.99

02:21:11.000 I made the fucking Rogan podcast. 0.99

02:21:12.000 Let's go. 1.00

02:21:13.000 Let's fucking go. 0.99

02:21:14.000 Alright, thanks. 0.99

The Joe Rogan Experience - September 28, 2011

JRE MMA Show #143 with Sean Strickland

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