JRE MMA Show #58 with Brendan Schaub
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1 hour and 43 minutes
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In this episode we talk about video games and how they have changed the way we live our lives. We also talk about Jeff's new addiction and how he is now addicted to video games. We talk about how video games have changed our lives and how the video game industry is changing the way people live their lives. We also get into how video game companies are making money off of video games, and why we should all be playing video games! If you like video games then you'll love this episode, don't forget to SUBSCRIBE on Apple Podcasts and leave us a rating and review so we can keep bringing you quality content and hilarious stories from the world of gaming, comedy, and all things related to the gaming industry. We hope you enjoy, sit down, relax, and have a nice drink and enjoy the ride. XOXOXO, Jeff and Jamie Xoxo, Jeff & Jamie XXOXO Thanks for listening and supporting the podcast. We really appreciate it. We appreciate your support. We are working hard to make this podcast and hope you like it. Thank you so much for being a part of the community and supporting it. Love ya. XOXO. -P.S. We will be back next week with more content! -J.J. & Jeff -S.B. xoxo xo -E. . -A.A. -M.S -B.J -D. :D -C. ~ -T.M. -JG -R.AJ :P -LJ :C.J & K.A -K. ,S. ( ) .S. (A.O. (M. (P. ) -F.J) (J. (S.I. (R) ) -P (P) (SJ) -JT (C. (C) -H. (B.S (C.) & S. (D) -P) -D (C). ,A. (T. (F) -R) -C) -AJ (P). (AJ & J. (V. (L) ,P. (I.A.) (Q)
Transcript
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Jamie and I have been going back and forth for fucking four or five days now.
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There are a couple guys that can compete, a few, that can compete with the mouse and keyboard.
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I'm sure they can, but they have zero life, and they don't even know what a pussy looks like.
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Yeah, we're on Quake 4, but there's Quake Champions that you play online.
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We've been playing Quake 4 because we could set it up on what's called a local area network, a LAN, and it's real easy and there's no latency.
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There's hot chicks that hunt, and they wear makeup and shit, full eyelashes and shit, because it brings them into that world, and then all the guys are like, hey, look at her.
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And they're, like, staying in front of, like, an endangered species with their tits out.
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Like, there's hot girls that take Muay Thai class, right?
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And they get all serious, angry-faced, don't talk to anybody, pretend they're real fighters.
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When they say, I don't like when people say, I'm going to train today.
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You were, like, straight up addicted to them, right?
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Well, I kind of got a little bit of a problem now.
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That's why I have to kick Jeff out every now and then, just so Jamie and I go one-on-one.
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One-on-one, last time I fucked him up, and he quit.
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Well, because me and Jeff are easy prey, right?
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If I won all these games, how long do you think we'd be here playing quick?
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If you won all these games, he's too competitive.
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You lost 13-5 because you were trying real hard?
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The problem with having another person in the thing is he always goes after Jeff first, gets that easy kill.
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I think he's practicing while we're not watching.
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He's definitely practicing while we're not watching.
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While the show's going on, watch the security camera, get your pump on.
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First of all, let's start with Diego motherfucking Sanchez.
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All these young guns sleeping on Diego Sanchez.
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Well, there's a video of Diego going, look at this shit.
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Yeah, Diego, I saw on his Instagram, he showed his chest where he got bit.
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Maybe that's one of the reasons he got so tired.
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He was out of his element a little bit with Diego.
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I mean, you're dealing with a guy who has 40...
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He's been fighting since he was four years old in the UFC. He won Ultimate Fighter Season 1, 2005. 14 fucking years ago.
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You gotta stop and think about what an insane career that is.
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And his last two fights, I think his last fight was Craig White.
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Yeah, and for everybody who knows, that is Brendan Chobb's voice.
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You don't feel sick, so it's just a sore throat?
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Sometimes my voice goes, I'm not sick, but I feel great.
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Well, I had it over the weekend, and yesterday I felt like dog shit.
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They say when you work out, when you're sick, it makes it worse because your immune system's down.
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I'm just like a little worn out, but my voice is alright.
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No, it's the worst, man, because I always take the first fight back because I want to see my family.
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So, Mickey Gall, in that fight, he asked for that fight.
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That was a fight that he was begging Dana White to give him.
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He's a big name who's been doing it for a long time, so these young guys go, oh, I grew up watching him.
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Well, I think they also think he's been doing it for so long.
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And once he's on the ground, then he doesn't...
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I mean, if there's a hole in Diego's game, you would have to say against elite strikers, he has a real problem.
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Just to think about the enthusiasm Diego has after all these years in the game.
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Well, what we know, 14 years in the UFC. But he fought before that.
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I mean, he had several fights before the UFC. King of the cage?
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And, again, how long he's been doing it and how much he loves it still.
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He fought Michael Johnson in 2000. Ring of fire.
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His name would probably be tagged there if it was.
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Wow, he fought Shannon Rich on his third fight.
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Shout out to that guy though for keeping with it, you know?
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But just stop and think about 17 years in, Diego's still slinging.
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It's not just that he's fighting, that he fights.
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But he really believes in CBD. A lot of fighters do.
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I mean, there's so many good companies now, but another fight that was crazy, how about Colby and Pedro Munoz?
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Well, you skipped past Zabit and Jeremy Stevens, which I thought...
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I mean, for Zabit to beat the number six guy in the world, it was good.
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Well, first of all, he's fighting Jeremy Stevens.
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I didn't think his Stock went through the roof with that fight.
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You didn't walk away from that fight going, oh my god, I can't wait to see him fight again.
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But when you hear Mark Henry, his coach, talk about him, I mean, they talk about him like he's the next fucking...
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And his round kick to the body is just so fast, like lightning.
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Doesn't play the game that Cody Garbrandt played with Pedro Munoz.
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I just couldn't believe he was standing with him like that.
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He got him hurt, and then he got hurt, and then he was determined to take him out, and then they were literally going...
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He said he got headbutt and then just saw Rhett.
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He said he saw Rhett, like got angry after he got headbutted?
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I mean, obviously, it's super easy for us to say.
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But as a former fighter, it's like, coming off two losses, which I've been there, you're usually a little more like, alright, I'm not gonna go down that road.
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Pedro Munoz has very good timing, but I think Colby has a speed advantage.
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I mean, Cody Garbrandt is still only 27 years old and still could be world champion again.
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Three losses, Pedro Munoz, okay, he played that game loss.
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He's just got to be more cautious and fight more technical.
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You know, I mean, it wouldn't be a bad idea to get some mental coaching.
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I don't know who he's training and striking with either, but, you know, to mix things up more and be more unpredictable would also be a good thing.
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I mean, obviously, the last exchanges were just not predictable at all.
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His last win, he beat Dominic Cruz, which is you've got to be cerebral in that fight to beat Dominic Cruz.
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Dom said that he did the exact thing that Cody did in their fight, that he got hit and he got emotional and he fought reckless.
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It's hard to see him get KO'd three times in a row like that.
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When you're ranked, was he number two in that division?
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It's not like, alright, let's give you a warm-up fight.
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He's going to get Jimmy Rivera or fucking Al Jermaine.
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And you know, those guys might argue that they don't want him because he's lost three times in a row.
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Sterling actually called him out, which is weird because he's ranked, you know, he's ranked five, I think, but he's coming off a win, you know, a huge win.
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I'm saying Colby Covington already, because I'm already thinking about him.
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Yeah, well, he's good at talking shit and getting his name out there, and it's the best thing for the welterweight division right now, after Usman just dominated Tyron Woodley.
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You and I were texting each other, and it was weird, because I had people over at my house to watch the fights, and they were like, God, this fight's so boring.
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And I look online, and I'm like, God, this is brutal.
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This is one of the greatest title fight performances I've ever seen.
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For him to do that to Woodley and dismantle him, you don't understand.
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It's not just insane that he dismantled him, which is for sure insane, but also his fucking gas tank.
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Usman was pushing on the pedal for five fucking rounds, never let off the gas.
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When you look from the first round, as soon as they break it up, and then you're ready and he's standing there like this.
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Do you know that the word was that he had a fractured foot?
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So he took a fucking cortisone shot coming into that fight?
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His coach is going, alright, you gotta go in there, you gotta out-grapple, out-maneuver Tyrone Woodley, who's one of the best welterweights of all time.
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He's 37. I don't know if he just didn't show up.
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Did it his way and made some demands, won the big fight, and then it never happened for him.
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He was in a big draw, but he could get away with that when he was champ.
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Now that he's not champ, the road for him to get back is going to be so fucking tough because of what he did when he was champ.
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That's why I feel bad for Woodley, and he's one of the greatest to ever do it.
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And I was making the argument before this fight that you could argue that if he beats Usman, he is the greatest.
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Matt Hughes has legend status because he was the original.
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He was the first wrestler that really developed rock-solid submission skills.
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When he armbarred George St. Pierre in their first fight.
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You know, George was the best welterweight of all time.
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But I was saying that he's in the running right now.
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If you consider the opponents he beat, Wonderboy twice, knocks out Robbie Lawler to win the title, and then goes on from there, beats Damian Maia.
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For some reason, he was an underdog in the Darren Till fight, which didn't make any sense to me.
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See, I thought Darren Till was very good, but I never saw him on the ground.
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I never saw a real wrestler take him down and ground and pound.
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See, I think Darren Till's going to be a problem for Usman.
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His size, yeah, I think he's going to be a problem.
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I think especially now that 170, because what is, if you are a fan of fighting, what is fun is Woodley being out, the welterweight division is so fun.
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Because now Usman, Colby, you got Ben Askren there.
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Well, I'll tell you what, even though Robbie Lawler lost that fight, god damn he looked good.
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He looked good physically, like at the weigh-in, he looked jacked.
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Apparently he had a tremendous strength and conditioning routine for this.
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And he was fighting fucking ferocious, like the Robbie Lawler of old.
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He didn't look at all diminished, and I think maybe the time off was good for him, because he had to get an ACL surgery, so he might have been dealing with something before his last fight, we don't know.
00:19:02.000
Do you think maybe it was two where Ben Askren's so one-dimensional, he didn't have to worry about the striking at all?
00:19:09.000
There's a little bit of that for sure, but the fucking fight started because he launched Ben Askren into the air and slammed him on his fucking head, which is crazy.
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There was still, what, two minutes left in that fight?
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With that much time, it could have got pretty diced for a fucking...
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Ben, I think he put it on his Twitter or his Instagram page where you see Robbie Lawler's arm go limp.
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Because the choke, he was, like, he's squeezing really hard.
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People need to stop saying that you have to be under the chin to choke a guy unconscious.
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You can choke a guy unconscious across his face.
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You can go across the face, right like this, and if you have a real squeeze, you have like a Marcelo Garcia squeeze, you could put a guy to sleep.
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With that bulldog, you can get a lot of leverage in that position.
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I mean, I don't know how he's gripping his hands.
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You know how much more torque you can get with his whole body?
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So I don't know if he went out and then Ben let him go a little bit and then he popped right back awake.
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Your natural movement though, if you're fighting a choke, your natural...
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That's where I'm like, alright, maybe he was out.
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But, in all fairness, I thought Ben was out earlier.
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And I think maybe he might have either reposted it or replied to it or reposted it with a comment.
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When he said, this is what happened, then go to whatever he was commenting on.
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Basically, they were saying in the video that he...
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See, carefully, you'll see that Ben loosened his chalk a little bit.
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Yeah, but if you go to the top of that thread, you'll see the video.
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But look, but Robbie does give him the thumbs up.
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It's not a normal movement, but it is a tight squeeze.
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Well, Herb said, what Herb is saying is, he told Ben to stop when the arm went limp.
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When the arm went limp, Ben said is that he's lightening up and that he lightened up and then Robbie came back to life.
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But I do know that Robbie Lawler is a classy motherfucker because he complained for a little bit.
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And I don't think his stock dropped in that fight.
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Yeah, Ben says he didn't want to fight him in the first place.
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He was so angry, and you could see it in his face.
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Yep, very good at everything and very good wrestling, and I think that's probably where he's going to try to put Darren Till after that Woodley fight.
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It's a bad situation for Woodley, man, because...
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People are going to say, oh, he was doing all that stuff with TMZ. Oh, he's got a rap album coming up.
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Because I've always been on that side of, and you know more than anyone, you told me to get the fuck out, is when you're one foot in.
00:24:20.000
Because what's Usman doing when Woodley's in the studio creating beats?
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If I went up to Usman, like, hey, dude, I'll pay for a show for you on TMZ. You go, get the fuck out of my face.
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Get the fuck out of my face with that TMZ shit.
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Dude, I was telling everybody, for years, people have been scared of Usman.
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Before you were seeing, people were scared of him, but he wasn't beating anybody that was world-class.
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The Damien Maia fight will forever be marred by the fact that they separated them when Damien had one hook-in and he was trying to take his back.
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Go to Damien Maia versus Kamaru Usman and see who separated them.
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Matt the Terracero was going fucking crazy about that and he's 100% right.
00:25:27.000
Do you know how difficult it is to get a hold of a guy like Usman like that and to have one hook-in standing up and to be working to take his back and for them to separate him?
00:25:40.000
How much harder it is to take Woodley down and control him?
00:25:45.000
If I'm Usman, I went, what the fuck are you doing, dude?
00:25:47.000
Yeah, but I mean, you stop and think- You take him down.
00:25:49.000
You stop and think about Damien Maia's last fight, right?
00:26:39.000
He said your commentary was off, so was Anik's.
00:26:50.000
I don't know why he said the commentary was off, but...
00:26:56.000
The reason why he's standing him up is because he can't wrestle.
00:27:06.000
I have nothing but respect for Goddard, although I don't agree with his decision in that fight.
00:27:20.000
But listen, your job is not to intervene the trajectory of the fight.
00:27:26.000
Don't fuck up Usman's biggest fight of his life by standing up.
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Because what happens to this, and we've seen it, what happens if he stood him up and Woodley goes, you know what?
00:27:48.000
The only thing wildly inconsistent is your and your co-coms, commentators, recollection and observation of actual events.
00:28:01.000
The only thing wildly inconsistent is your and your co-coms recollection and observation of actual events.
00:28:16.000
I didn't say anything bad about him other than I don't agree with the stand-ups.
00:28:23.000
And I don't know if Mark Goddard could wrestle.
00:28:30.000
Also, John Anik going hard in the paint's awesome.
00:28:35.000
Well, it's wildly inconsistent is correct, because Herb Dean is the gold standard, in my opinion.
00:28:40.000
And Herb Dean, even though that thing with Robbie Lawler is controversial...
00:28:45.000
I kind of look at it and I go, the arm went limp, man.
00:28:50.000
I think it's unfortunate, and it may have been a mistake, but it might not have been a mistake.
00:29:03.000
Herb Dean's job is to protect the fighters and to stop fights and to make calls.
00:29:08.000
That guy gets fucking hated on and never loved.
00:29:14.000
But with Mark Dotter, don't be the guy trying to...
00:29:21.000
But there's an arrogance with which you deal with the fighters, commentators, and many in the sport.
00:29:29.000
And I'm quite sure you'll give yours for everyone to hear.
00:29:38.000
Okay, so I believe John Eck referred to the inconsistent between each referee's decisions of when to separate the fighters, and John said exactly that's what I was referring to.
00:29:47.000
That two of the consensus best referees of the game would handle those two situations so differently.
00:29:53.000
I understand the athletes are different, but there are parallels to be drawn.
00:30:00.000
I feel bad that Mark Goddard responded the way he did because it's not very professional and I think it's very emotional and I think he's probably just feeling the heat.
00:30:17.000
I think he's top one or two refs in the business.
00:30:21.000
My question is, I wonder who is telling them they should stand things up when they shouldn't stand things up.
00:30:34.000
You know, sometimes in English people, they're more combinated.
00:30:37.000
When you got two world-class wrestlers, and this guy's impossible to take down, he's one of the best of all time, let it go.
00:30:45.000
I just, I do not agree with stand-ups, because I think if a guy can hold you down, like this I was saying about Ben Askren, if a guy like Ben Askren can hold you down and give you noogies until the fight's over...
00:31:00.000
Do you know how hard it is to control Woodley on the ground?
00:31:04.000
You have five minutes to sink a choke in, five minutes to hold on to him and beat him up.
00:31:12.000
He got stood back up, didn't complain, went right back at him and took him down again.
00:31:23.000
But stylistically, when you look at the fight for Colby, I look at what Colby does well.
00:31:28.000
The thing about Usman is he's got power, he's got striking, he's got wrestling, but even maybe more importantly...
00:32:12.000
Could you imagine what it feels like to have your husband win the fucking world welterweight title and to beat Tyron Woodley?
00:32:23.000
And my mom sure as fuck wouldn't be in the cage.
00:32:28.000
I feel like when someone wins like that, they can do whatever they want.
00:32:40.000
And Usman, I feel like he's only like, what is he, 31 or 32?
00:32:52.000
But when he's not cutting, he came to my Palm Beach show.
00:33:05.000
But he's big like a super athlete, not like a bodybuilder.
00:33:14.000
When you look at the way Tyron is big, Tyron's more thick.
00:33:28.000
He looks scary with his face painted like that.
00:33:36.000
The face paint thing was a last minute decision too.
00:33:45.000
But they had to make sure that they had the right color paint, you know, to do the Nigerian flag on his face.
00:34:00.000
You know, Jorge Masvidal still is capable of beating something.
00:34:15.000
You know what happened in that Till fight with Woodley?
00:34:18.000
He didn't land a single significant strike in two rounds.
00:34:22.000
He didn't land anything in the first round, and he didn't land anything in the second round.
00:34:31.000
You come out to fucking Neil Diamond, Sweet Caroline, the whole deal.
00:34:50.000
The smart thing is you wait and you counter because Woodley's so goddamn fast.
00:34:54.000
That smart thing paid off when he landed that big right hand, dropped him.
00:34:58.000
And then the other problem with Darren Till is that on the ground on his back, he didn't have anything.
00:35:07.000
But if you can move, you've got to be able to do something to protect yourself and something to tie.
00:35:17.000
Look, if you look at the way he dispatched Cowboy, insanely impressive.
00:35:21.000
If you look at the way he beat Wonderboy, also impressive.
00:35:24.000
I mean, Wonderboy's a world-class striker, and he beat him and dropped him.
00:35:28.000
Wonderboy Usman, Wonderboy's a hard code to crack.
00:35:32.000
And especially if Wonderboy has some time off to recover.
00:35:35.000
Gone through those two big five-round, three five-round fights.
00:35:42.000
They're hard on your body, hard going through training camp.
00:35:44.000
And I want to say that I think Wonderboy had a knee injury, too, that he might have gotten surgery on.
00:35:54.000
The point is, the welterweight division is fun as fuck.
00:36:07.000
Okay, Stephen Thompson said his movement was out the window after Darren Kill kicked a knee kick out.
00:36:14.000
He's also saying that he doesn't think that those kicks should be allowed, which is crazy for someone to say that kicks people in the head.
00:36:24.000
Okay, it says, it was almost like the dude was trying to put me out.
00:36:31.000
He hit me in the knee, and after that, my movement was pretty much out the window.
00:36:37.000
It was just another thing to think about out there.
00:36:42.000
Maybe that comes because he came from a karate background and not a Muay Thai background.
00:36:47.000
On the show, Thompson said he was unsure if targeting the knee with that kick like that is legal.
00:37:03.000
Hopefully it's nothing major, but it sucks, man.
00:37:05.000
Disappointed by the whole situation and coming out of it with an injury like that, it only makes it all worse.
00:37:13.000
So he must have healed it up or got surgery or whatever.
00:37:25.000
I was just unable to put myself in a situation to do so.
00:37:27.000
And the reason for that is because he kicked your knee.
00:37:44.000
Yeah, you fucked my knee up in the first fight, I'm going to fuck your knee up in the second fight.
00:37:47.000
Listen, it is just as valid and maybe safer than kicking someone in the head.
00:37:53.000
It's easier to do, for sure, than kicking someone in the head.
00:37:57.000
If you can kick someone in the fucking head with a wheel kick, that is the worst thing you can do to a person.
00:38:07.000
But again, I think a lot of that is because he came from that karate background, and he came from an above-the-waist style karate background initially.
00:38:15.000
You know, when Duke Rufus was cornering his brother, Rick Rufus, when Rick Rufus fought, I forget the gentleman's name, from Thailand, I think Lawrence Kenshin has it as the most important kickboxing match in history.
00:38:33.000
Because this was when Rick Rufus was in his prime.
00:38:42.000
He would hit guys and knock them out with hook kicks and front leg round.
00:38:59.000
After the Thai gentleman destroyed Rufus' legs and stopped him, Duke, who's a world champion himself, said that he didn't think that it took any skill to do that.
00:39:10.000
Because that's how a lot of those Thai guys thought.
00:39:26.000
If you don't know what to do, that would hurt so bad.
00:39:51.000
So after it was over, Duke, who I think was only like 19 at the time, said he didn't think that took any skill.
00:39:59.000
Now, he evolved and became a world Muay Thai champion himself.
00:40:09.000
...but it's the way the cookie crumbles tonight.
00:40:14.000
Back it up a little so I can hear him say that.
00:40:17.000
I just know that he's in pain and the leg kicks were the only thing that stopped him.
00:40:21.000
The guy did not touch me anywhere else in the body, you know.
00:40:24.000
I think, you know, that Rick should have won the fight.
00:40:28.000
There are three major fouls, but it's the way the cookie crumbles tonight.
00:40:33.000
He said later that he didn't think that it took skill to do that, which is...
00:40:49.000
Well, the Thai style with the other techniques is the best.
00:40:55.000
If you got that Thai style, but you know how to throw sidekicks, you know how to throw everything else.
00:41:07.000
He's doing a lot of sidekicks now and spinning back kicks, turning sidekicks.
00:41:14.000
He throws a lot of everything, man, but he fucks you up.
00:41:18.000
And he's so good at keeping guys on the back foot.
00:41:24.000
I want to say this, though, because this is something that's coming up, and it's actually kind of pissing me off.
00:41:28.000
There's a bunch of people that have been saying, should...
00:41:32.000
Anthony Smith have laid down after he took that illegal knee and won the title.
00:41:42.000
I think Ariel was suggesting or asking whether or not he should have.
00:41:47.000
Well, it's crazy because the guy should be praised for he ate the knee, he was okay, and then he wasn't even thinking about quitting.
00:41:58.000
It went through my mind that someone might do that.
00:42:07.000
And I wasn't like, oh, we should all give him praise for this.
00:42:17.000
And I think Chael Sonner would probably admit to this.
00:42:19.000
If he took that illegal knee, he might say, that's it.
00:42:28.000
I mean, you get the win, you get the title, you get a rematch.
00:42:37.000
The bottom line is, some people were actually suggesting that, that that would be a good option.
00:42:45.000
I saw several people, and the fans went hard on these people that suggested it.
00:43:04.000
I actually think Anthony Smith's stock I think?
00:43:33.000
If you watch Anthony Smith's fights prior, he was a bulldozer, comes at you.
00:43:43.000
So then Anthony Smith was defensive the entire time, trying to hand fight.
00:43:49.000
He also fought very technically in the first round.
00:43:58.000
John actually in the first round got a little wild.
00:44:00.000
I felt like he almost felt the pressure of being a minus 800 favorite.
00:44:05.000
We've never seen John throw those wild punches in that first round.
00:44:16.000
But who in that division can fuck with him now?
00:44:27.000
I would have liked to see Johnny Walker not blow his shoulder out celebrating.
00:44:34.000
He came in the back and they didn't even, they're waiting until I think today, but in the back after he went, I'm actually good now.
00:44:39.000
Okay, so what that must mean that he dislocated it, and then they popped it back in place.
00:44:45.000
So it could be fine, or there could be some significant tearing inside that allowed it to dislocate, and that could be a problem in the future.
00:44:56.000
Listen, fill that dude up with stem cells, just get a bunch of needles in there, and fucking...
00:45:10.000
He's interesting because Santos throws fucking nuclear missiles at your head.
00:45:20.000
And he stopped Anthony Smith in their last fight at middleweight.
00:45:23.000
I would imagine Santos is almost a bigger underdog than Anthony Smith.
00:45:28.000
I would imagine that too, but I would imagine that he's not going to fight like Anthony Smith.
00:45:38.000
I just need to do some exams and check to be 100% sure that it was nothing serious.
00:45:45.000
Because the thing about shoulder tears, and this is coming from someone who's had some shoulder issues.
00:45:51.000
It feels alright until you do something weird, and then it hurts.
00:45:55.000
And then you get an MRI, and then they look at it, and they go, oh, you got some tears in there, son.
00:46:00.000
I've had problems where I'm like, dude, I'm fucked.
00:46:03.000
Then two days later, like, well, fuck it, let's do it.
00:46:05.000
That's usually like sore tendons or sore muscles.
00:46:09.000
Yeah, but he fell face first and landed on his shoulder weird.
00:46:22.000
He's a character when you work on his English, but he's going to go far.
00:46:28.000
I was grilling for everyone, and I lost track of time.
00:46:31.000
I looked at the TV from my backyard, and I saw them go, let's get it on.
00:46:36.000
I just fucking dropped everything and sprinted.
00:46:41.000
Yeah, well, this is his third fight in the Octagon, but he's fighting Misha Sukronov, who's a real tank.
00:46:48.000
He's a tank, and he's got some serious grappling skill.
00:46:56.000
But, you know, Johnny Walker, let's watch it real quick.
00:47:11.000
What's he like when someone takes you down and we're in the third round?
00:47:46.000
There are so many videos of football players celebrating touchdowns and blowing their ACL out.
00:47:57.000
I was talking to one of his teammates, and they were like, you know, you see how loose he is?
00:48:23.000
Well, he's a real interesting addition to that division.
00:48:57.000
The thing about Dominic Reyes is super smart, super athletic, and he's 9-0, undefeated.
00:49:03.000
Him versus Johnny Walker would be a hell of a fight.
00:49:07.000
There's so many good matchups, like heavyweight, with the young guys.
00:49:12.000
The thing about him that separates him from everybody else is he has a background.
00:49:19.000
I would say Johnny Walker's probably more athletic than these guys.
00:49:31.000
How does Johnny Walker whiskey not just do a deal now?
00:49:35.000
Jump on board before this gentleman becomes a champ.
00:49:38.000
Have him wear a Johnny Walker t-shirt and shit.
00:49:40.000
Now, again, light heavyweight will be so much better, the same thing that happened in welterweight, if Jon Jones goes, have fun, boys, and goes to heavyweight.
00:49:53.000
Well, John might fight Tiago next, and if he fights Tiago, I mean, look, John wants to fight five times a year.
00:50:24.000
Dreamt of playing in the NFL. But didn't he play for high school?
00:50:53.000
The difference between the level of athletes, between the guys that are going into the NFL and the NBA. They're the height of the height.
00:51:01.000
There's a guy who's 6'3", 230 pounds, ran a 4'3 in the 40 with a 40-inch vert.
00:51:13.000
There's a defensive lineman who ran a 4'4", 40. A big, fat dude ran a 4'4".
00:51:31.000
I don't know why I bring this spot in every podcast.
00:51:33.000
Have you ever seen the guy who's run the 40 and his dick comes out?
00:51:46.000
And he pops up and goes, the coach goes, what happened?
00:51:49.000
And they pause it, and he has this fat, black dick.
00:52:25.000
It's crazy that he's so confident that his dick is tough.
00:52:44.000
Imagine how many women just start blowing up his DMs.
00:52:49.000
I mean, when your dick falls out while you're running, you can't even contain it.
00:53:00.000
He's been waiting, dreaming of going to the NFL. Did they give him another run?
00:53:14.000
This is something I'm not understanding about dudes who are not wearing compression shorts with a cup, like a diamond MMA cup.
00:53:19.000
In the NFL? No, in MMA. Like guys who get nut-shotted, like when guys have a regular cup on.
00:53:30.000
How do you have that when you can have one of those compression cups and you're not going to get hurt?
00:53:34.000
Sometimes those cups are uncomfortable and they're so big.
00:53:41.000
Kenny Florian used to wear the Thai steel cup, and here's the thing.
00:53:44.000
I don't think the Thai steel cup should be legal.
00:53:47.000
But if it is legal, oh yeah, it's a nasty fulcrum.
00:53:51.000
But not only that, but even if you accidentally hit it, You're hitting a piece of metal.
00:54:01.000
And a guy can do something to you and slam that metal into your face.
00:54:05.000
I mean, some weird shit can happen and you can break a bone.
00:54:08.000
I mean, there's many opportunities where guys...
00:54:13.000
A guy shoots in and the guy hits him with his hips, right?
00:54:16.000
You can hit him with your hips and catch that steel cup right in your fucking mouth and break your face.
00:54:21.000
Remember, Mitrione knocked out Derek Lewis with his hips.
00:54:25.000
I thought he hit him with a right hook or something.
00:54:35.000
He hit him with that, but then he hit him with some punches too, right?
00:54:42.000
I really think that those cups, like a diamond MMA style cup, should be standard.
00:54:47.000
And I think diamond MMA probably has the best one.
00:54:49.000
I didn't like them when I was fighting just because they were so uncomfortable.
00:54:54.000
I don't think the diamond ones are that uncomfortable.
00:55:01.000
We'll give it to you if you want to try it out, but you don't give a fuck anymore.
00:55:15.000
Those steel cups, though, some dudes used to wear those in jiu-jitsu.
00:55:19.000
Because they'd get on top of you, like if somebody mounted you, and they grapevined your legs and dug that fucking thing into your chest.
00:55:26.000
Dude, how about fucking Usman fucking grapevining Woodley and from Mount?
00:55:33.000
And then I had my boy Todd Feldman over at my house.
00:55:38.000
Or he goes, that looks like a bad position to be in.
00:55:41.000
And I turned around and went, excuse me, sir, the worst.
00:55:44.000
There's nothing worse in professional sports than in the UFC when you get mounted on national TV in front of millions of people.
00:55:51.000
And you just, it's the most kind of beta male move of all time.
00:56:05.000
All your buddies are watching going, damn, bro.
00:56:08.000
And, you know, the interesting, it didn't seem like Tyron had the energy to get him off.
00:56:19.000
Well, I don't know if that was it, or he's just wilting under the pressure that Usman was putting on him.
00:56:25.000
Here's why, and I'm not taking anything away from Usman, I think he's one of the greatest title fight performances of all time.
00:56:34.000
He won every minute of every round against a guy.
00:56:37.000
And against a guy who many people thought was in the running to be thought of as the greatest welterweight of all time.
00:56:44.000
And if he won that fight, especially stopped him, I think you could put him in that category.
00:56:51.000
Where I thought he might be off is right in the opening minute.
00:56:55.000
Remember Usman shoots, Woodley grabs a guillotine, and he falls on the wrong side against the cage.
00:57:07.000
I was like, my God, he's going to get Von Flute.
00:57:11.000
I heard that, yeah, OSP. It's the OSP. Sorry, Von Flute.
00:57:15.000
But OSP has more Von Flute chokes than anybody.
00:57:17.000
You kind of have to call it the OSP. Over in St. April.
00:57:28.000
Because if he invented it, you've got to give it to him.
00:57:35.000
But at Woodley's level, to do that in the opening rounds, well, he's not ready yet.
00:57:41.000
Because Woodley being a black belt in jiu-jitsu, being one of the greatest fighters of all time.
00:57:46.000
Like, you ever seen George St. Pierre make a mental...
00:57:54.000
You might be right about him having one foot out the door.
00:58:03.000
So, basically 37. Basically 37, doing all that stuff for TMZ. I want to say he opened for Wiz Khalifa recently.
00:58:26.000
Those fight companions passed these fucking backwoods ones, man.
00:58:34.000
Alex Jones had one, but it was only tobacco, folks.
00:58:38.000
Yeah, but with Woodley, when we say one foot in, one foot out, it's easy to say in hindsight because eventually he was going to lose.
00:58:49.000
When he beat Wonderboy twice, he was doing this stuff.
00:59:04.000
Usman is absolutely a bad motherfucker, and who knows?
00:59:06.000
He might have been able to do that anyway, even if Tyron was in perfect condition.
00:59:12.000
Tyron, over the last few fights, over the last few years, has been able to control the pace of the fight.
00:59:21.000
Obviously, Darren Till fight was a good, easy victory for him, relatively.
00:59:26.000
Controlled the pace of the Wonder Boy fight, fought smart, and then hit him when he wanted to with big shots.
00:59:33.000
And he was the one who had Wonderboy hurt, right?
00:59:35.000
But Wonderboy was never pressing him, forcing his cardio.
00:59:39.000
But if you go back and watch some of the fights where he had problems earlier in his career, like Nate Marquardt, like Rory McDonald, it's someone pushing him.
00:59:52.000
He might have figured out a way to, look, when you're that muscular, and he's fucking ridiculously muscular, I mean, Tyron has legs the size of a running back.
01:00:12.000
And that muscle is one of the reasons why Tyron is so fucking fast and powerful.
01:00:16.000
But it also, you could make the argument that that muscle just comes with an unavoidable price.
01:00:22.000
And that what he's been really able to do is, Jack is conditioning up as high as possible, and then also do a really good job of controlling the pace of fights.
01:00:38.000
If he wasn't 100% focused, I want to see him one more time focused with Usman.
01:00:57.000
When you get outclassed for 25 minutes and there's two, eight, ten rounds, it's tough to get...
01:01:04.000
Obviously, they're not going to give you a rematch.
01:01:05.000
Yeah, so who told TJ you could really call for a rematch in that fight?
01:01:09.000
The UFC's going to make Woodley's path to that title shot a fucking nightmare, man.
01:01:25.000
So, Leon Roberts was the one who separated Damian Maia and Usman.
01:01:39.000
So you'll run that back, though, because you stopped early.
01:01:47.000
Especially if they decide to do it at flyweight, they're the only names in that division except Joseph Benavidez.
01:01:52.000
Benavidez, who also won, he beat Cejudo in a split decision.
01:01:57.000
There's a real good argument for him fighting for the title as well.
01:02:00.000
But that fight was so controversial and so hyped up, I would like to see that fight again.
01:02:06.000
But don't you think if anyone deserves to be Woodley, how long he was just fucking the reigning champ?
01:02:11.000
But I would say the same thing about Stipe Miocic.
01:02:18.000
He won more title fight defenses than any heavyweight in the history of the sport.
01:02:27.000
Beat nothing but world motherfucking champions.
01:02:37.000
And then fights Nganou, who's fucking terrifying.
01:03:00.000
Well, Kane's going to have to get another knee surgery now.
01:03:15.000
Trust me, his team would have released something.
01:03:24.000
That he got hit behind the head with an illegal shot first.
01:03:30.000
Javier must have been, maybe had a few bomb readers in him.
01:03:39.000
Well, we were saying we watched that punch, and it didn't even land.
01:03:45.000
But that short show, I just did Food Truck Diaries on Below the Belt with Francis, and he showed me the exact punch.
01:03:52.000
Because I was like, people are saying, he was not happy.
01:04:01.000
It was Javier Vasquez said it was an illegal punch.
01:04:08.000
First of all, it's not an illegal punch when you're swinging on the feet.
01:04:12.000
If a guy is swinging and a guy ducks and you hit him in the back of the head, there's not a single referee on the planet Earth has ever...
01:04:19.000
There's not a single referee in the planet Earth that has ever said that's bad.
01:04:21.000
Not only that, a good percentage of head kicks are illegal shots.
01:04:29.000
Wonderboy likes that sneaky question mark kick.
01:04:35.000
But with Kane, that's not even an issue because that punch didn't land there.
01:04:40.000
The issue is the uppercut, which turned the lights off, which caused his knee to buckle.
01:04:47.000
If there was a knee problem with this kind of dilemma about his knee, his team would have reported he's going for knee surgery.
01:04:56.000
They're just like, uh, all right, let's just move on.
01:05:02.000
King might be in a position where he doesn't want to have any more knee surgeries, but his knees are weak.
01:05:06.000
No, but I'm saying if he got hit with that punch, maybe in another world, his knee wouldn't have given out like that.
01:05:19.000
I'm sure Stipe would like it, but what Stipe really wants is another shot at DC. Not happening, bro.
01:05:25.000
Maybe thinks that that's the way to get to DC. The UFC would have done it by now.
01:05:46.000
So DC's going to get Brock and probably ride off to sunset.
01:05:49.000
Although I was trying to tell Francis, he needs to let DC just do his thing, dip out, and then he can become the heavyweight champion.
01:06:04.000
I mean, apparently his coaches have already said, look, you've got a real legitimate career as a broadcaster, and he does.
01:06:26.000
No, I mean, Dom and I laugh a little bit, but he's like uber serious.
01:06:30.000
Like when Rose Namajuna's won, and he's yelling out, THUG ROSE! DC? DC's, he's fun, man.
01:06:36.000
You, DC, and Annex, the best commentating team on the planet.
01:06:39.000
When it's you and Dom, there seems to be this weird dynamic where I don't vibe with it.
01:06:44.000
I think a lot of people are on board with that.
01:06:49.000
Again, it's not bad, but it's not you, DC and Anakin.
01:06:52.000
But Dom, without you, even with you, he's amazing.
01:07:05.000
I would like to see maybe one more fight out of DC. And then, look, he's got his wits about him.
01:07:14.000
Like, when you hang out with him and talk to him, he's a sweetheart of a guy.
01:07:23.000
I mean, his skill, his understanding of the game.
01:07:25.000
As a heavyweight, you could argue he's the greatest of all time.
01:07:30.000
He said, I think that DC's the best of all time.
01:07:38.000
Yeah, but he's only fought once in the UFC at heavyweight other than this with Frank Mir.
01:07:42.000
But dude, what he did in the Strikeforce Grand Prix is insane.
01:07:47.000
Who else did he fight at heavyweight in the UFC? Did he fight Roy?
01:08:00.000
And then start steep A. But I think without cutting weight, he just feels so much better.
01:08:05.000
That's why if he's going to fight John, we've got to do it at heavyweight.
01:08:19.000
Because DC can knock bitches out at heavyweight.
01:08:33.000
Why don't you and I call Dana White and say, we would like to take over the matchmaker occasionally.
01:08:39.000
We would like a celebrity matchup sort of deal.
01:08:42.000
Just let me get my beak I don't want to take anything away from Mick Maynard and Sean Shelby.
01:09:00.000
You do DC John Heavyweight for the world title.
01:09:07.000
Do you really think Brock's going to take that fight?
01:09:19.000
He looks small and like your dad, you know, but he'll beat the shit out of you.
01:09:39.000
I asked Francis about that, and he goes, I don't chase.
01:09:48.000
The funny thing is, you standing next to Francis is almost like me standing next to you.
01:10:02.000
And everyone's going to freak out on the internet.
01:10:16.000
You know, with those food drug diaries, I try to get a little silly and get those guys to have fun.
01:10:22.000
With Francis, he talked about how he kind of felt like a loser after the Stipe fight.
01:10:31.000
He's saying how he kind of felt like a loser and how he didn't feel like himself and how he felt pressured to take the fight.
01:10:46.000
Because when I first interviewed him, I remember way back in the day when he had the dreads, I first interviewed him, he was having a real hard time understanding me.
01:10:56.000
And, you know, when he loosens up, it'd be tough to do two hours with you.
01:11:00.000
Dana White says Damien Cormier is getting the Brock Lesnar fight.
01:11:08.000
But this has more to do with, I guess, the Brock Lesnar fight.
01:11:13.000
He said that at the post-fight press conference.
01:11:16.000
But there's no announcements when DC's going to come.
01:11:24.000
He had a problem with his hand before the Derek Lewis fight, decided to take the fight anyway.
01:11:29.000
Because Stipe offered the fight, and that's why he's like, dude, I'm injured.
01:11:42.000
Because if Daniel Cormier wasn't injured, he would have got that shot.
01:11:46.000
If his hand was okay, he would have got that shot in New York.
01:12:00.000
Because, I mean, how long has it been since he lost the title?
01:12:55.000
Coach Javier Mendes can't understand why Stipe Miocic is waiting for the Daniel Kamiami rematch.
01:13:00.000
I don't think he necessarily is waiting for it.
01:13:03.000
He even taunted DC. He wants it, but I don't think they're offering him a valid fight in the meantime.
01:13:10.000
I haven't heard any big fights that are being mentioned.
01:13:18.000
Well, the only thing they could really offer him is what?
01:13:20.000
It's funny, I have all these questions and I don't ever call Dana.
01:13:36.000
It was interesting being on ESPN for the first time.
01:13:40.000
Yeah, I'm holding an ESPN handle on the microphone.
01:13:46.000
And knowing that it's on ESPN. It's very exciting.
01:13:49.000
It's very exciting to know that it's on ESPN now.
01:13:51.000
Because I think that's going to make a big deal with casual fans.
01:14:00.000
You know what's cool is when I turned on ESPN, I do every morning until I start my morning, is they had a picture of Bryce Harper, who just signed like a $3 billion deal with the Philadelphia Phillies, and John Jones.
01:14:21.000
And I think Fox really did a fantastic job over those seven years.
01:14:27.000
Going to ESPN is like, holy shit, we're on ESPN. It's a big deal.
01:14:31.000
For sports, you go to any fucking sports bar, ESPN's always on.
01:14:36.000
And they're going to have a shit ton of fights.
01:14:38.000
And if you have ESPN +, you can watch all the old fights.
01:14:43.000
Plus at the bottom, just the scroller, say John Jones like breaking news.
01:14:46.000
ESPN Inc's exclusive rights deal with PFL Mixed Martial Arts League.
01:14:52.000
What is PFL? Oh, that's the National Fighters League.
01:14:59.000
I think they have something like 10 events for the year right now.
01:15:13.000
Live across ESPN2, ESPN Deportes, and ESPN Plus.
01:15:24.000
I was so sure he was going to win the whole thing.
01:15:30.000
When it comes to the ground game, he's a freak.
01:15:46.000
Something crazy like, why would he fight him again when he got robbed of a decision in the last fight?
01:15:59.000
They had the hype video ready to launch on Monday.
01:16:12.000
I feel bad for Deontay because Deontay almost put him out in that final round.
01:16:16.000
I think you can make a real argument that Tyson won the decision.
01:16:20.000
But when you get dropped twice and get dropped one time in the most horrific fashion, I mean...
01:16:38.000
That's why the UFC jump-frogged the boxing a long time.
01:16:40.000
Sort of, but I mean, look, that fight could have been made.
01:16:43.000
Do you think that maybe Tyson didn't want to fight him again?
01:16:47.000
I think it's his handlers, his representation go, dude, let's sign with ESPN, get a seven-figure deal.
01:16:54.000
You can fight two bums, and then we'll circle back to Wilder.
01:16:59.000
I mean, there's an argument that that's a good move financially, I guess.
01:17:16.000
But it does open up Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder, which is very exciting.
01:17:23.000
A little bit, but yeah, no time soon, because Deontay's still going to fight in May.
01:17:33.000
So then, you know, Anthony Joshua would be great, but he's fighting Big Baby Miller.
01:17:46.000
First time Anthony Joshua is fighting in the United States though.
01:18:00.000
If a dude's name is Breeze, you'd call him Brazil.
01:18:09.000
However, you got Mikey Garcia, Earl Spence coming up.
01:18:48.000
We're going to be 85 years old before you know it.
01:18:51.000
We're going to be like Larry Merchant over here talking shit.
01:18:54.000
Remember when Larry Merchant said to Floyd Mayweather, I was your age, I'd kick your ass.
01:19:07.000
He's fucking such a crotchety old dude, though.
01:19:20.000
Well, someone's gonna drink themselves to death on a live show.
01:19:28.000
We should start bringing it to other people, too, occasionally, especially when Callan's out of town, because Callan's always busy these days.
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But the talking over, oh my god, I tried to listen to it.
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Because I wanted to know what it sounded like when everybody was talking over everybody.
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I haven't been that drunk and high in a long time.
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People, for whatever reason, love those kind of chaos shows.
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They love drunk and stoned and interdimensional child molesters.
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That Alex Jones one, though, I told you I've never been a fan of his.
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They were gonna be mad at me anyway, but one of the things that they were saying was, you know, fuck you for, they were saying, fuck you for normalizing him.
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I'm like, you gotta understand, that's how I know him.
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And this is a guy that, by the way, on his show, said he was going to kick my ass and break my legs and fucking all kinds of crazy shit.
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I'm like, when we're not in front of each other, you can say crazy shit.
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But what I know is the Alex Jones that was here.
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A lot of the crazy shit that he was saying about fucking human-pig hybrids that they're working on those and actually making human-pig hybrid fetuses.
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The problem is he throws so much shit out there at one time, I don't know what to believe and what not to believe.
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So if you want to nerf the world and make the world so that only children can watch everybody.
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Because make things that are safe for everyone, including children.
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And I can figure out what's real and what's nonsense.
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Dude, speaking of children, did you see the Michael Jackson?
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Tim Dillon is pretending that Michael Jackson was a pimp and he was banging bitches.
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The problem with this Michael Jackson documentary is there's no fucking music in it.
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He was fucking Elvis' daughter, Lisa Marie Presley.
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You know Neverland Ranch was just fucking pussy?
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Because they're trying to make him look like, oh, some humanitarian.
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Apparently some kid walked in on him fucking some bitch.
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And the kid knows, like, every one of his moves, everything he was fucking doing.
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It's like, what kind of sick kid sneaks into Michael's room while he's fucking a chick?
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Dude, when he said, when you had him on, he said, the comments are brutal, Shob.
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Someone said, oh, why is Rogan having Roseanne on again?
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She went on Candace Owens and called all of the Me Too girls a bunch of hoes and they were all just selling sex to try to get successful.
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That show was number one, and now no one even cares about it.
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I don't want to watch that Michael Jackson thing.
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He's not alive to defend himself, so it's weird.
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People tell the truth in stories sometimes, and sometimes they don't.
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No one knew why, with all the rumors that everybody had ever heard about Michael Jackson, that anybody would let their kids go and hang out with him.
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When you watch the documentary, you're like, these parents are fucking morons.
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Two of the fathers have committed suicide since this happened.
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Wait, but we don't have any hard evidence that he was molesting kids, right?
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The doctor, his very doctor, said that he was chemically castrated.
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That guy said he was chemically castrated by his parents to protect his voice.
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One of the other weird things I saw that was like facts you should know from the documentary was that he had something to do with the sound in the room.
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The hallway leading up to his bedroom was wired so that footprints would make a ding-dong sound in the room.
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It's just a very strange thing to just have in general for any purpose.
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But if you grow up in the spotlight, because remember, he was such a big star, you might have some anxiety.
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Right, maybe you didn't want anybody walking in on them naked or something.
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Or you don't want anyone walking in while you're touching boys.
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I remember he spent like 30 straight nights with like a 12-year-old at his house, in between that kid's mom's house and his dad's house, because they were divorced.
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And there's so much video of him and this little boy holding hands, and the boy in the video goes, yeah, we would hold hands, and we had a signal.
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We'd rub each other's palms when we were thinking sexually about each other.
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However, you gotta chalk it up to the shitty parents.
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Because if John Legend came to my house and was like, dude, I love Tiger, you mind if I take him out for a little while?
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Well, not only that, and John Legend's not a pedophile.
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He was the biggest star in the world back then in the 90s.
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It's too weird to let your kids hang out with this grown man all those times.
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So he missed out on the sleepovers and video games.
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So he would get friends with kids and As I'm saying out loud, it's batshit crazy.
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I think all those things that you're saying are true.
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But I also think it's true that he was probably chemically castrated.
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It's just that voice is just not a man's voice.
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If he's castrated, then he would have zero testosterone to molest kids.
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Yeah, well, he might not have been doing it because he was horny.
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He might have been doing it because he was just weird.
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The kids in the video said, like, he would jack himself off in front of them.
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Not his wife, but the woman that gave birth to his two kids said she never had sex with him.
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If you're chemically castrated, that means your body doesn't produce any testosterone anymore, but it doesn't mean you can't shoot it into your body.
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And, you know, you could shoot test into your body.
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But if you have no nuts, you're not making semen.
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I think sperm's from the nuts, and then, like, your prostate, and there's some other things that get the juice together.
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There's a lesson to be learned there in so many different ways, but one of the big lessons to be learned is that you never want to be that famous.
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I was watching my girl, I go, can you imagine being that famous?
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You know how we like to go to the mall, we like to go out to eat?
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Yeah, that's why he developed an amusement park.
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They set this up for him to go grocery shopping.
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They emptied a grocery store and paid people to be shoppers so he could have the experience of what it's like to be normal going through a Ralph's or whatever.
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And have interactions with people like, hey, how's it going?
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Well, they should make it realistic like LA. So he hired people so he could do that?
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See, the thing is, when he died, he got super rich.
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No, because there's like MC Hammer broke, where when he talked to MC Hammer, he's like, what are you talking about?
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He's like, there's like, you know, Publicist broke where they released that.
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He bought all the originals, the masters of his and the Beatles.
01:31:16.000
Yeah, Paul McCartney was mad about that, apparently.
01:31:46.000
So that's why you're not allowed to sing it in a restaurant.
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You can now because it's back into the public domain.
01:31:53.000
Dude, that's why everyone sings the bullshit Happy Birthday?
01:31:58.000
I think ASCAP or BMI could literally come in and just find the restaurant if you were singing that.
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Too bad he doesn't like bitches because that'd be the biggest move ever.
01:32:23.000
Those two dudes who were doing it, one was the key witness when he got away in court.
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The one was the number one key witness who's saying he didn't get molested.
01:32:37.000
Okay, well then he shouldn't be able to say anything.
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And now they're like, well, no, that's not true.
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You can't lie in court either way, one way or the other.
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You can't lie to protect somebody, and you can't lie to accuse someone either.
01:33:00.000
I mean, that seems like that's something they could drag him to court for.
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And then Jackson came out and went, well, isn't it convenient?
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You guys are coming out now when you're in financial trouble?
01:33:11.000
It just seems like a strange thing to do a documentary on.
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He thought he was flying free and pissing on bitches.
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Like, he leaves jail and he has to walk through a throng of people.
01:33:42.000
They took down all the shit, and all the artists who worked with him took their music down.
01:33:46.000
Like, let's say Michael Jackson did get convicted of molesting kids.
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You know, Tony Hinchcliffe, I don't want to give away the bit, he has a fucking hilarious bit about that.
01:34:12.000
He's got this new bit about transgender athletes.
01:34:18.000
Daycare affiliated woman who bailed R. Kelly out of jail receives bomb threat.
01:34:33.000
Let's get back to MMA for a few minutes before we get the fuck out of here.
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That's next month, and that is in motherfucking Atlanta, Georgia.
01:34:51.000
Holloway Poirier 2. I'll be there for that one.
01:35:23.000
Johnny Walker knocked out Khalil Roundtree, too.
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That's crazy because he doesn't have any loose skin.
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He was young and he was working in an MMA fucking warehouse or something.
01:35:46.000
Well, that's the same thing with David Goggins.
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Imagine you break up with him and six years later he's jacked.
01:36:06.000
I'm just tired of you being all fat and getting on top of me and I can't breathe.
01:36:21.000
That just shows you how crazy powerful Johnny Walker is, man.
01:36:45.000
And a lot of people say it's because he's not stopping people.
01:36:52.000
See, you're talking about Latifi and not talking about Corey Anderson.
01:37:17.000
That fight with Tiago Santos was chaos for as long as it lasted.
01:37:27.000
How do you feel like Dustin Poirier, Max Holloway plays out?
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Mack's always so goddamn talented and not having to cut at 45 anymore.
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What's interesting is they offered the fight to Tony Ferguson and turned it down.
01:38:06.000
There was another fight in there where he stopped somebody else.
01:38:23.000
I mean, I know Justin Gage was a champion in the PFL. Before it was the PFL, right?
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55. It might have been 55 with Michael Johnson.
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That was before Johnson went to 45. Johnson at 45 is a motherfucker.
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Do you have any idea why Tony Ferguson turned it down?
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I mean, maybe it was because, hey, I already am the fucking interim title holder.
01:39:14.000
But, I mean, he already was the interim title holder.
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And then they just took it away from him when he was doing crap.
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Is now, if the winner of Max Holloway, Dustin Poirier, he's guaranteed a title shot.
01:39:35.000
Connor, and apparently the sticking point was that it was going to be a co-main event.
01:39:43.000
I think the idea is that they have to have world titles as a main event.
01:39:51.000
It's the Wild West DW. Get your head out of your ass.
01:40:14.000
It's weird when you have friends that don't like each other.
01:40:17.000
You know, when you're good friends with both of them?
01:40:25.000
I criticize some of the UFC decisions because I do a show, but then I have no issue with them at all.
01:40:35.000
Part of the thrill of these things, it's got to be Rage and Al.
01:40:44.000
He wants to fight against Swillick and another opponent for him.
01:40:46.000
Sid does not specify who's going to be fighting next.
01:40:51.000
Dude, you're telling me Conor was like, no, I'm not taking the fight if I'm co-main event?
01:40:55.000
Why in the fuck would you make that a co-main event?
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Yeah, he said he could be out of action until the fall.
01:41:01.000
You know, the other thing is McGregor hasn't fought in so long.
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It's hard to be active when you're making that much money off the whiskey.
01:41:30.000
And he made like $100 million off the Floyd Mayweather fight.
01:41:41.000
I mean, him while he's in the middle of his career and you post-career.
01:41:46.000
I mean, you guys have laid some interesting blueprints for fighters.
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So by the time he fights, it's going to be another year.
01:42:10.000
And two years before that was his previous fight.
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Especially if you want to be creme de la creme.
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I think he's only interested in big fights, like things that excite him now, you know, because he's got so much money and so much success.
01:42:32.000
The main event of that fight was a non-title fight, Conor versus Nate Diaz.
01:42:39.000
But the last one, the fact that it was a non-title fight, it was also the biggest pay-per-view of all time.
01:42:46.000
Dude, whoever recommended that he be co-main event against Cowboy should get their mouths pissed in.
01:43:15.000
Alright, let's wrap this up before your voice goes out.
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Well, everybody who listens to this podcast will know you're not faking it.
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Then after that, I'm in Milwaukee, Turner Hall.
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After that, I'm in Washington, D.C., D.C. Improv.