Book of Revelation: Is Pope Francis the True Pope or False Prophet? - Part 1
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In this episode of the John Andrew Weston Show, Monsignor Xavier Heral joins us to discuss some of the most controversial prophecies about the future of the Catholic Church, including the prediction that Rome will fall and become the seat of Antichrist.
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We must know we cannot abandon the church, which was instituted by Christ upon Peter.
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To do so would be to say, Christ failed to foresee what the future held.
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Hey, my friends, we are with someone very familiar to you all.
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Xavier Heral, as you know, is the author of the book, which we actually have here, Revelations.
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And it is a book that I recommend to all of you.
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Yes, it's huge, but it is probably the most complete book with regard to the revelations from heaven that have been approved.
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And as you all know, it is very, very well referenced.
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And I've asked Xavier today to speak with us on something that is, yes, rather controversial.
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It pertains to the prophecies that I'm sure you've heard about and wondered about, particularly while Pope Benedict was still alive.
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Prophecies regarding, for instance, St. Anne Catherine, or Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich,
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and her prophecies around the two popes and the baleful relationship it was between the two popes.
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We're going to get into all of that on this episode of the John Andrew Weston Show.
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So let's begin as we always do with the side of the cross.
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In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
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So Xavier, I've asked you to speak with me on something very, a lot of people might say very controversial.
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But as I understand from you, there are quite a few revelations with regard to a pope or leader of the church or someone in the hierarchy at some point who will be perhaps even a false prophet, someone who will very much deceive the church.
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I think the Catechism number 675 talks similarly about a great religious deception.
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Maybe you can start there, or all from the scriptures, and tell us about this topic.
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Before coming to your show this morning, I had a long, long conversation with some old colleagues of Monsignor Vanila Arta, who now are old men, and some of whom I'm following from across the Atlantic, with a great deal of admiration and support.
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Regarding that passage in Catechism, I actually took the liberty of taking it, if you permit me.
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Before Christ's second coming, the church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers.
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The persecution that accompanies a pilgrimage on us, will unveil the mystery of inequity and the form of a religious deception, offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth.
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The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah, come in the flesh.
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This, by now, is on the utmost gravity, and it only confirms what heaven, through heaven's first emissary, and even through our Lord.
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You mentioned Anne Emmerich, which is a perfect example of this, a revolution she received from Christ himself, only support this statement.
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What the Blessed Virgin Mary has stated in La Salette on September of 1846, to Melanie Calvert, to Maxime Giraud,
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to young children who barely knew how to write or read, confirms again this particular event.
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She said there, Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of Antichrist, incidentally.
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Now, keep in mind that this particular statement, brought forth by the man of Christ to these two medical messengers,
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has been formally approved by the Archive Archbishop of Grenoble in France,
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and by the decastarium of the Doctrine of the Faith of the Time.
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As being worthy, there is no greater approval that the Catholic Church is today able to give to an apparition side.
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And yet, this particular message given in La Salette about Rome falling,
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then losing the faith and becoming the seat of the Antichrist, is alarming to say the least.
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And in no way does it contradict the promise of our Lord that the Church that he will found upon the side of Paul Peter
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Because the Church of the War, and you mentioned it to me on our part of the conversation,
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it's you, it's me, the Church are your viewers.
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That's why the Catholic Church, Rome, the Vatican, is a hierarchy.
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So, one of the particularly striking things also is that in the Catechism we learned that
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the Church, in the times of the end, will not sort of ascend in power and majesty,
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but actually will follow her head, our Lord Jesus Christ.
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So that the mystical body of Christ, the Church, will follow her head, our Lord,
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into what seems like a death, even though the Church can't officially die.
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Christ said, I will be with you to the end of time, and the gates of hell will not prevail against you.
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But, in the Catechism we learned that the Church will indeed follow,
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the mystical body of Christ will follow his head, our Lord, into a passion and death, a seeming death.
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So, presumably, we're to follow in an agony and discouraging, like a judgment and a scourging
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So, those are very stark sort of statements that come in the Catechism.
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Is that reflected also in the Scriptures and Revelations as well?
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Even, I think, His Excellency Bishop Schleider mentioned, and His Eminence Calvin and Gilda
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So, indeed, the Catholic Church will go through the same passion, our Lord.
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Before a resurrection, there will be a crucifixion.
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The Apostles, let's not forget that even Christ chose Judas.
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There is a reason for that, for which we must accept,
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and in this instance, that's where faith informs.
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So, as I mentioned to you before, coming here, I spoke with some friends of mine who used
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In this instance, it appears to them, it appears to me, to many people, that I will agree
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that, indeed, the devil is extraordinarily astute in this period of time in which we are living.
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The Catholic Church today, and I'd like to think you'll agree with me,
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Now, in this particular civil war, we are being placed in front of a trap,
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Before the infamies that we might see here or there, not to point fingers on their names,
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the great temptation would be for many to abandon a church that one, or many, perhaps,
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And in no circumstances must we fall into that trap.
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We are all using, again, the vision of St. Padre Bosco, Don Bosco.
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We are in a church, which is a sea ship, in the midst of probably, I think,
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one of, if not the greatest storm our history has ever lived through.
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Well, the question is, will you abandon ship, or will you stay on and fight on
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with your shield and your sword, which is this, and will you abandon ship?
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It appears to me that the message of the Virgin Mary, within La Salette, in Fatima,
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in places like Garamondal, which have not been but then, and others,
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orbit around the notion that we must continue the fight with prayers,
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even for our enemies, even for those, God help them, who have fallen to heresy.
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The Americans have a great series of a movie called Band of Brothers,
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World War II, paratroopers, and you'll understand the analogy.
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This, the hero of the movie begins in 1944, when they begin training in Scotland
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by an American lieutenant, who's played by the actor who plays Ross in France,
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and is a bit of a silly person, not a very efficient officer.
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Anyway, they go to their training, they disembod, we go back to the last episode,
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which is the night of 1945, if they could not stand each other,
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obviously the trainer and the hero of the movie.
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They find themselves at the end of the war, and the captain,
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the lieutenant who used to train under the orders of this Lincoln Poets,
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finds themselves from the ship and sees this ex-trainer walking in front of him,
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who makes it appear that he doesn't look at him because he doesn't want to say you.
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Immediately, the captain says to the lieutenant,
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lieutenant, lieutenant, he turns around, and then he salutes and said,
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There's something that could be said today with what's happening in the church.
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I do not make it a secret whenever I appear in different shows.
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I certainly do not agree with what many have accused him to
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being a complicitate of idolatry with the incident of the Pachamama
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He started against those who had little bit unforgivable crime
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to adore God, the way our fathers did before us, and the way their fathers did before us.
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And this fiducius suppicants, which just appeared, which is nothing less but the new interpretation,
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traditions of Christ, is very alarming, is very grave.
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That is why I, for one, decide to respond, yes, to the message of heaven,
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for the Virgin Mary, and pray for those who have fallen into a very grave error.
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Because it was in the book of Amos that our Lord promises that, you know,
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he basically won't do anything, which means allow anything as well,
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to happen without informing his prophets, so that the prophets can inform the people.
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It does seem now, though, that we're kind of without direction,
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because the scriptures also say when they strike the shepherd, the sheep are scattered.
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Very much today, the sheep are seemingly scattered.
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People are leaving the church, and they have been for a long time now,
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particularly when they've seen the infidelity of shepherds.
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Jesus, that's sad, because you don't abandon Jesus for Judas,
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because Judas was terrible, and he did a lot of terrible things.
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Apart from the crucifixion, apart from setting up Christ,
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he was already stealing, probably abusing people that we, you know,
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and other people might have seen that and said,
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Oh, it can't be true because of, no, it doesn't, you know.
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So, we never abandoned Christ and his church because of one or one-tenth of,
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But in this time of grave confusion, particularly around the Pope,
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have the prophets been telling us things to give us some kind of direction?
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I dedicated one particular chapter to Marie-Julie Cheney in Brittany,
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where she clearly claims that the time when God will finally enter a being,
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he will no longer tolerate the infamous betrayal,
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will be when the Holy Sacrament of the Altar will be attacked.
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When a new liturgy, under the roof of a new rising church,
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that will try to rise what the administration of the Catholic church
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will try to gather on the same roof all sorts of Protestants,
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A liturgy to which will be readapted to that effect,
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At that time, the Holy Eucharist will be attacked.
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The liturgy of the consecration of the Holy Ghost
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in one of the most contemporary apparition sites