The John-Henry Westen Show - July 06, 2023


Jeff Bezos Was Given A Rosary. Here Is What He Said ｜ Christine Kengott

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Christine Kengott shares the story of how she met Jeff Bezos, founder of Amazon and the richest man on the planet, and how they became friends. She talks about how she got to know him, how she became friends with him, and what it was like to pray for him.

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00:00:00.000 I just called him by his first name, since we had already met.
00:00:02.880 I said, oh, Jeff.
00:00:04.180 And he turned around, and I held the rosary out for him, and I said, this is for you.
00:00:16.660 Christine Kengott, welcome to the program.
00:00:19.060 Thank you. Nice to be here.
00:00:21.300 Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.
00:00:23.840 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
00:00:30.720 So, Christine, this is really fascinating.
00:00:33.400 As I said at the beginning, I think a lot of people, obviously everybody knows Jeff Bezos,
00:00:38.540 and one of the richest men on the planet, owner of not only Amazon, founder of Amazon,
00:00:44.900 but also, influentially, the Washington Post, and many other ventures.
00:00:51.240 So, start off, tell us a little bit about yourself,
00:00:54.660 and how in the world did you get to meet Jeff Bezos in the first place?
00:00:58.240 I did a trip around the world in 1988-89 by myself,
00:01:03.240 and there were a lot of precarious situations where I thought I was going to die,
00:01:08.380 and I prayed pretty intensely, and a lot of things transpired.
00:01:13.380 And so, I guess in essence, I'm not afraid to talk to anybody, anywhere, anytime.
00:01:19.480 And the trip kind of lent itself to that.
00:01:24.180 It was very conducive to meeting a lot of people for over a year.
00:01:27.600 And then, my daughter was living in L.A., and I met this priest whose father,
00:01:34.720 his ministry is to make rosaries, and he was looking for some place to give these rosaries.
00:01:40.000 I said, well, I love to travel, and I could disseminate those rosaries to people that I meet.
00:01:45.500 And so, the father gave me all those rosaries, and then the son, who's the priest, blessed them all.
00:01:53.380 So, anytime I would travel, I would take these blessed rosaries and give them to anybody,
00:01:58.020 a waitress, a pilot, a flight attendant, anybody I meet, homeless people.
00:02:03.140 Well, my daughter living in L.A., there's a lot of homeless people.
00:02:06.360 And that was my primary objective, was to disseminate the rosaries to them and pray with them
00:02:12.320 and hear who they needed prayers for, what they needed prayers for.
00:02:16.860 So, that was very, it seemed very necessary work and very rewarding.
00:02:23.160 Well, it was my daughter's birthday, so we were in a restaurant of her choice called Nobu out in Malibu.
00:02:29.720 And we're sitting there, and I look over, and I see Jeff Bezos standing with a group of friends.
00:02:36.060 They had already eaten, and they were saying their goodbyes.
00:02:39.100 So, my initial intent was to introduce my young daughter to him.
00:02:45.120 She was like 29 at the time, and in the business world.
00:02:49.500 So, I thought they may cross paths again, and this way they'd be on a first-name basis,
00:02:54.300 and it may be conducive to some business transactions in the future.
00:02:58.960 So, that was my first thing, was to introduce the two of them.
00:03:02.100 And I told him the business she was in, and he was very supportive and encouraging.
00:03:10.240 And I asked him if he had any advice for her, and he gave her some advice, you know, just to go for it, not to be afraid.
00:03:17.280 So, we said our goodbyes, and we went back to our table, and I saw my rosary sitting on the table.
00:03:22.420 So, I grabbed it, and I said to my daughter, do you want to give this to him, or should I?
00:03:28.240 And she said, go ahead, Mom.
00:03:31.300 So, I walked over, and I just called him by his first name, since we had already met.
00:03:36.700 I said, oh, Jeff.
00:03:38.020 And he turned around, and I held the rosary out for him, and I said, this is for you.
00:03:44.100 Took it, and he looked at it like I had given him a pot of gold or something.
00:03:48.240 And he said, oh, my gosh, this is for me?
00:03:51.400 I said, yes.
00:03:52.320 I pray for you every day.
00:03:54.280 He said, you pray for me every day?
00:03:57.120 I said, yes, I do.
00:03:58.740 He said, thank you so much, Christine.
00:04:01.380 I said, well, thank you for all you do, Jeff.
00:04:04.480 And he said, can I give you a hug?
00:04:06.960 I said, yes.
00:04:08.360 So, we embraced a, you know, really heartfelt hug.
00:04:12.580 And then I said, God bless you, Jeff.
00:04:15.600 And he said, God bless you too, Christine.
00:04:18.540 And I really do pray for him every day, John Henry.
00:04:21.760 I do the stations every day after Mass, because we're told we're supposed to meditate on the
00:04:27.720 passion of Jesus every day, and the sorrows of Our Lady every day.
00:04:32.100 So, I figured something is better than nothing.
00:04:34.820 So, I do it in a very expeditious manner.
00:04:37.560 I'm very quick.
00:04:38.360 I don't go through a standard book when I do the stations, but they all kind of inspire
00:04:46.400 me.
00:04:47.040 When I see Jesus being stripped, for example, it makes me think of the terrible atrocities
00:04:53.020 of the human trafficking and people being disrobed against their will.
00:04:57.880 When I come to Jesus being crucified, invariably, I kneel there because it's one of the most sacred
00:05:04.240 places we can be.
00:05:05.460 And I do pray for 12 million conversions as a result of my time meditating on Jesus' passion.
00:05:13.320 And I specifically name Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, the Clintons, the Obamas, the
00:05:21.400 Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, Klaus Schwab, the Royal Family, Noah Harari, just all these people
00:05:30.060 that are really in positions of power that could really make a difference.
00:05:35.000 And if they had a conversion, it could really impact our world in a positive way.
00:05:41.480 So, I sincerely do pray for Jeff Bezos every day.
00:05:45.640 I think he could sense that.
00:05:48.140 Wow.
00:05:48.660 So, that's kind of my story.
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00:07:30.860 God bless you.
00:07:33.520 Yeah.
00:07:34.440 Well, it's so unbelievable that, you know, here you, I mean, he's one of the most powerful
00:07:40.080 people on earth, one of the richest men in the world.
00:07:41.720 Did you ever think in your life you would bump into Jeff Bezos?
00:07:47.480 You know, because I am not shy, I travel around the world by myself.
00:07:54.880 I really have met a lot of famous people.
00:08:00.700 And to me, they're just people.
00:08:02.700 But all range of life.
00:08:04.320 I spend time with the homeless person on the street and every, every person in between on
00:08:10.300 that spectrum.
00:08:12.180 I met with Stephen Hawking.
00:08:16.120 My daughter and I kind of talked our way in there.
00:08:18.760 And my primary objective was to tell him about Father Rookie, who had the gift of healing.
00:08:24.380 And so I did talk to him about Divine Mercy Chaplet, because I thought if he could have
00:08:36.440 a major healing through the chaplet, he could really positively impact the world if he had
00:08:42.640 a conversion.
00:08:44.480 And I was, the secretary said, I'm going to let you in to talk to him.
00:08:49.000 I don't know why I never do this, but I'm going to let you in.
00:08:52.320 And she forbid me to talk to him about this priest with the gift of healing.
00:08:58.340 So now I had to carry the conversation with an astrophysicist, a topic I know nothing about,
00:09:04.940 and not talk about the very thing I'm there to talk about.
00:09:07.860 So I got back to the States, and I felt really guilty that I didn't expound more on the Divine
00:09:14.560 Mercy Chaplet with him.
00:09:15.980 So I went to confession, and the priest was so funny, you know, instead of just kind of,
00:09:20.680 you know, negating the impact that could have had, he took me very seriously.
00:09:25.180 He said, okay, Christine, now for your penance for not telling Stephen Hawking about the Divine
00:09:31.360 Mercy Chaplet more in depth, go say three Our Fathers and three Hail Mary, or whatever.
00:09:36.800 It was, I got a kick out of how that priest took my, you know, my feeling so, like I really
00:09:43.600 neglected to take that opportunity that I should have.
00:09:47.720 Wow.
00:09:48.440 Wow.
00:09:49.580 Okay.
00:09:50.620 So where does this come from?
00:09:53.140 Because you've got a very deep faith that's very lively.
00:09:57.660 How did you even get there?
00:09:59.200 Because it's a rare thing.
00:10:02.360 Oh, well, thank you.
00:10:03.940 Well, how much time do you have?
00:10:06.740 Enough.
00:10:07.280 You go for it.
00:10:08.160 You know what?
00:10:08.760 You know what?
00:10:09.200 I will have to say, I had great parents, but I think of specific things that my dad did.
00:10:15.360 You know, we think of the father in the family kind of being representative of God the Father.
00:10:21.540 And he did some things that were just incredible.
00:10:26.360 I remember a nun telling us that we really should live every day to the fullest because we could
00:10:32.760 die at any time.
00:10:34.000 Any one of us at any age, we don't know.
00:10:36.360 So I couldn't wait to trip up my dad and tell him, you know, say, Dad, what would you like
00:10:41.580 to do?
00:10:42.320 And have him say, oh, I'd like to travel to the far ends of the earth, or I'd like to
00:10:46.960 get my, you know, he had his pilot's license, but, you know, whatever he wanted to, whatever
00:10:52.660 he aspired to do.
00:10:53.980 And as a seven-year-old, I couldn't wait to say, oh, Dad, then you should do it because
00:10:59.280 you could die at any time.
00:11:01.380 Well, instead of getting an answer of something he aspired to do, and he and I were together
00:11:09.500 in the car, and we had just cut the grass at the funeral home that he owned in a small
00:11:15.220 town.
00:11:15.800 And I said, Dad, what would you like to be doing now if you could do anything at all?
00:11:20.640 And you know what he said?
00:11:21.500 What I'm doing right now?
00:11:24.860 And it just took me aback because what he was doing right then was he was with me doing
00:11:31.440 a mundane thing, riding in the car.
00:11:34.000 And I said, no, no, no, Dad, anything, anything you could do, he said, what I'm doing right
00:11:39.800 now.
00:11:40.940 You know, so I think back at moments like that.
00:11:43.180 There was another time when I was four, I had to run away from my mean babysitter, and
00:11:49.260 I ran to my dad's hardware store, and I put my arms around his neck, and I said, Dad, remember
00:11:55.400 you said I could come to the hardware store with you today?
00:11:58.620 And right at that moment, John Henry, he could have said, what are you talking about?
00:12:03.260 Get out of here, kid.
00:12:04.380 Go with the babysitter. 0.86
00:12:05.560 But instead, he looked in my eyes, and he said, yes, I do remember that.
00:12:10.880 And from then on, I went to my dad's hardware store every day.
00:12:15.640 So I got to know all the customers, and he also would fix the heaters and the furnaces
00:12:21.820 in the basement of people's homes, and he'd call me his little helper, and I'd hold the
00:12:26.640 flashlight.
00:12:27.840 Well, invariably, I'd make my way upstairs with the lady where the pound cake was and the
00:12:33.620 fresh fruit, and she'd feed me.
00:12:35.580 And so, you know, it all is kind of incremental steps of talking with people at a young age.
00:12:42.700 And then this trip around the world, of course, was a pivotal part.
00:12:47.740 Oh, and Pope John Paul II kissed me.
00:12:52.020 So maybe that impacted my life.
00:12:54.820 He kissed my forehead in 1980.
00:12:57.040 So I guess I'm a relic.
00:13:01.700 Indeed.
00:13:04.060 You must have been a baby at that point.
00:13:06.160 Did your parents hand you up?
00:13:07.540 Is that how it happened?
00:13:08.960 No, no, no, no.
00:13:10.060 I used to sell ads and win trips for a youth camp in Southern Illinois, a Catholic youth
00:13:15.740 camp.
00:13:16.320 And they would reward us with these trips, primarily to Rome and be with the Pope.
00:13:22.580 We had an audience with Pope Paul VI also, and we'd go to Israel and, you know, the Holy
00:13:28.540 Land.
00:13:28.940 They were always kind of geared around Catholicism.
00:13:31.620 But I was not very devout at that time.
00:13:34.740 It was kind of like putting the cart before the horse.
00:13:37.360 Like I went to all the places Jesus went, and I think that that enhanced my Catholicism.
00:13:44.640 I had a very lame catechism growing up.
00:13:47.640 I mean, I didn't even know what transubstantiation was, you know, until I was in Medjugorje.
00:13:53.120 So it's kind of just a culmination of experiences, I think, that brought me to where I am now.
00:14:03.920 Beautiful.
00:14:05.120 And your very special devotion to the rosary.
00:14:09.180 Yes.
00:14:09.340 How did that come about?
00:14:10.540 It was my 50th birthday, and my family and I were in Aspen skiing.
00:14:18.040 We were on a gondola that was all made of glass.
00:14:21.940 And I very sheepishly said to my family, I said, it's my birthday.
00:14:27.700 Could we pray a rosary?
00:14:29.180 And they said, sure, Mom.
00:14:32.520 Yeah.
00:14:33.480 Because I was very late at starting all this.
00:14:36.420 And I had been praying the rosary maybe five years or so at that point, but never brought
00:14:41.780 my family into it.
00:14:43.200 But I pulled the birthday trump card, and they said, yeah, we can pray the rosary.
00:14:47.400 Where do we start?
00:14:48.440 I said, well, there's four decades.
00:14:50.080 They said, well, let's start at the beginning.
00:14:52.160 So we're starting with the joyful.
00:14:54.360 And with that, our gondola abruptly stopped.
00:14:57.580 They had an emergency somewhere.
00:14:59.280 So it abruptly stopped, but we didn't feel it.
00:15:02.220 It was very, very peaceful.
00:15:05.260 We didn't feel, we just looked up in a glass roof, and the cable had become like a gigantic
00:15:12.480 ribbon extending like 150 feet up above our gondola.
00:15:16.620 We said, what is that?
00:15:18.040 What's going on?
00:15:19.540 And because we didn't feel the abrupt stop, we felt peace praying this rosary.
00:15:24.500 And with that, the cable went downward, and it shot our gondola straight up to where the
00:15:32.080 ribbon of cable had been above us.
00:15:34.080 So we exchanged places, and it was just surreal.
00:15:41.180 And later, I talked to a ski patrol about what transpired.
00:15:45.540 And he said he had never heard of something like that happening.
00:15:48.480 And he said that we're lucky that the gondola didn't come off of that cable the way it shot
00:15:53.860 up like a slingshot.
00:15:55.000 So that was really the first time I remember being so devoted to the rosary with my family.
00:16:02.060 Now we pray a family rosary every day, and they're receptive to it.
00:16:07.060 But we've had, you know, as a family, I've passed on the love of travel to them.
00:16:13.240 So consequently, we've had some very scary experiences together.
00:16:18.340 But we always go to prayer when we're so scared.
00:16:23.240 Like we had an incident down in the Amazon.
00:16:26.140 We had an incident in Japan.
00:16:28.680 And, you know, very scary, life-threatening kind of things.
00:16:31.880 And we pray, and miracles.
00:16:35.860 Miracles just happen all around us all the time.
00:16:38.180 So my children see the power of prayer.
00:16:40.980 So it's kind of been a gradual sequence of events that has led me here.
00:16:46.780 And now I love being the age that I am that, you know, now I can really talk to anybody I want.
00:16:54.280 Because it's not a threat to anybody.
00:16:56.680 You know, I can talk to young men, young boys.
00:17:00.740 And, you know, like my daughters can't do that because it's looked at, could be taken the wrong way.
00:17:05.480 I can talk to priests.
00:17:07.200 I love how, you know, the genius of the priesthood because, you know, I'm like a mother figure to them.
00:17:17.580 And so that's beautiful to have this friendship with so many priests that need that in their lives.
00:17:22.700 They need friends.
00:17:23.760 They need a female friend. 1.00
00:17:24.820 And so, anyway, life, it just gets more and more enjoyable.
00:17:28.440 And the beauty of prayer and mass and we just have a plethora of information to study.
00:17:35.500 We can't possibly learn it all in one lifetime.
00:17:38.440 When I was in seminary, I was reading a book by Henry Nouwen.
00:17:46.280 He talked about a nuclear man, you know, and people who grew up in the 1980s were kind of formed by that immediate and constant threat of nuclear annihilation.
00:17:56.900 And my generation has grown up, you know, under the specter of priestly sexual abuse.
00:18:04.920 What say you, Mr. Foreperson, is the defendant guilty or not guilty?
00:18:08.700 I think that for many of us, that has also been all-encompassing.
00:18:14.120 You know, I mean, I entered the seminary in January of 2004, and it's basically been there for me from the beginning.
00:18:21.380 Would you mind telling us one of those stories, one of the stories where, if you're able to, where it was kind of life-threatening?
00:18:46.320 Whichever one you remember the most or means the most to you.
00:18:51.920 With the family?
00:18:53.180 Okay.
00:18:53.680 There's two that stand up.
00:18:55.800 You know, and the other thing, I've had unbelievable, miraculous events happen to me.
00:19:03.820 And I'll just jump ahead to this one, because this one's just so amazing.
00:19:07.600 It was December 12, 1990, and I was in Mexico.
00:19:14.420 My brother-in-law traveled a lot, and he had a coupon for an airline that was going to expire.
00:19:20.660 He said, you want this, Christine?
00:19:22.020 I said, yes, I do.
00:19:23.640 And so I went as far as I could.
00:19:26.000 I went to Mexico, to Cancun and Cozumel.
00:19:29.840 So I was by myself.
00:19:31.700 And I heard all this commotion with, you know, December 12.
00:19:35.360 And in somebody's broken English and my limited Spanish, I said, what is going on?
00:19:44.020 And they said, it's our blessed mother's birthday.
00:19:46.960 I said, really?
00:19:48.400 I said, okay, God, if it's your mother's birthday, why don't you show me something?
00:19:52.760 Why are you always so nebulous?
00:19:54.480 Like, why can't you make this more concrete?
00:19:56.300 So I noticed the sky that day was just cloud cover, no blue sky at all, just major cloud cover.
00:20:05.380 And I closed my eyes to pray.
00:20:07.420 I had, like, you know, a list of quite a few people to pray for.
00:20:11.020 And so 20 or 30 minutes, I had my eyes closed in prayer.
00:20:16.660 And with that, I opened my eyes.
00:20:19.400 There was not a cloud in the sky, no clouds at all.
00:20:22.540 The sky was the most beautiful color of blue I have ever seen.
00:20:26.880 It was just gorgeous.
00:20:28.620 And right in front of me was a gigantic cross made out of white, fluffy, fluffy clouds like cotton balls, like just very, very deliberate.
00:20:39.700 And it was the size of about three football fields.
00:20:43.460 Gigantic, white, fluffy cross right in front of me.
00:20:46.040 And I just instinctively, I fell to my knees, threw my arms dramatically in the air and said, for the glory of God.
00:20:55.560 So, you know, just so many things like that have happened.
00:20:59.120 I can hardly even name them all.
00:21:01.680 But getting back to some of the scary times, my family and I, my three daughters, my husband and I were in the Amazon.
00:21:09.900 And we were supposed to see the giant anaconda and the, what's the fish?
00:21:19.440 What's the fish that eats people?
00:21:21.860 Piranha.
00:21:22.760 So these were all in the Amazon.
00:21:24.740 And the crocodiles.
00:21:26.680 And we were in a small boat and another family was on there and it started just raining, just incessant rain, just unbelievable amounts of rain and lightning.
00:21:38.840 It was lightning all around us.
00:21:41.100 Well, I was a lifeguard and I knew you were not supposed to be on water when it's lightning.
00:21:45.400 And the woman, the other family, the woman kept standing up and you were not supposed to stand up in a small craft or you could capsize.
00:21:56.440 So I knew it was a bad situation.
00:21:58.580 And the guide, I kept begging the guide, just take us back, take us back.
00:22:01.960 He said, no, no, you haven't seen the giant anaconda yet.
00:22:04.740 No, you haven't seen the crocodile.
00:22:06.320 We're like, we don't care.
00:22:07.160 We don't care.
00:22:07.900 Get us out of here.
00:22:09.020 Well, there was nothing to do but pray.
00:22:10.760 And we really just broke out all the stops as a family.
00:22:15.480 We just prayed intensely with that lightning crashing all around us.
00:22:20.780 It was so dangerous.
00:22:22.940 And with that, it got calm.
00:22:25.440 The storm dissipated.
00:22:26.960 The lightning stopped.
00:22:28.460 The rain stopped.
00:22:29.380 The waters calmed.
00:22:30.320 It was like biblical, you know.
00:22:32.100 So many things like that have happened that it just really reinforces the notion that prayer is powerful.
00:22:40.760 Wow.
00:22:41.860 Did the other family react or the driver?
00:22:46.180 Not really.
00:22:47.440 I don't know.
00:22:48.160 They didn't seem to really notice or, you know.
00:22:52.940 I don't know.
00:22:54.260 They didn't know.
00:22:55.840 Not really.
00:22:56.400 Beautiful.
00:22:56.520 Anyway, what an amazing thing.
00:22:59.280 What are your hopes for Jeff Bezos?
00:23:02.700 And, you know, do you ever get inspired to, you know, follow up on the lights that our Lord gives you to do certain things?
00:23:13.820 Do you ever have an answer or see?
00:23:16.660 I know often we don't.
00:23:18.520 But do you have an experience of, you know, you're called to go out and do something?
00:23:24.900 Oh, and I need to ask you, too.
00:23:28.180 On the table, you saw the rosary.
00:23:30.400 That was sort of what prompted you.
00:23:32.500 But how does that prompting work?
00:23:34.200 And how do you hear the Holy Spirit asking you to do something?
00:23:37.280 You know, John Henry, I kind of feel like it's like when we make a deposit in the bank and we have interest that we get later, I spend I try to spend an hour a day in adoration, if at all possible.
00:23:52.860 And so, you know, I don't have any like lightning claps hit me when I'm in adoration.
00:23:59.220 But I feel like it's an investment, like I'm praying now, but then later I'm inviting the Holy Spirit to come through me.
00:24:06.420 And I feel like confession is kind of like a Roto-Rooter getting the sludge out to allow the Holy Spirit to work through us.
00:24:12.400 So then we're able to say and do the right thing more often.
00:24:16.400 Right.
00:24:17.180 So when I'm in those moments, I can be spontaneous because how many times have we been to a restaurant?
00:24:23.960 We get a carry out.
00:24:25.240 We go see a homeless person.
00:24:29.260 We walk right behind.
00:24:30.300 We go, oh, my gosh, I should have given him that my carry out.
00:24:33.740 We don't think of it at the time.
00:24:35.340 I was tired of not being able to think spontaneously because it's just like a very quick moment that we're able to react in a situation.
00:24:46.240 And I'll tell you a real cute story.
00:24:48.080 There's so many amazing stories, but this is one of my favorites.
00:24:51.300 It's a priest was tired of not being able to be spontaneous.
00:24:55.920 And he said, you know what?
00:24:57.240 From now on, whatever comes on my heart, I'm going to just assume it's from the Holy Spirit.
00:25:03.820 So he was pumping gas and it came on his heart to do a cartwheel.
00:25:08.040 And he went by his, you know, his rule.
00:25:10.800 If it's not hurting somebody else and it's not against the Ten Commandments, he's going to do it.
00:25:15.540 So he did a cartwheel.
00:25:16.920 He goes in to pay for his gas.
00:25:18.920 The young girl in there is crying profusely.
00:25:21.860 He says, honey, honey, what's the matter?
00:25:24.560 She said, oh, father, I've been an atheist for 25 years and I saw your collar that you were a Catholic priest.
00:25:31.740 And I said, God, if you exist, make that priest do a cartwheel.
00:25:38.840 That's a true story.
00:25:41.360 True story.
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00:26:26.740 That's so insane.
00:26:31.140 There's many stories like that.
00:26:33.380 Yeah.
00:26:33.760 There are.
00:26:34.580 And you know, that's so powerful because it does speak.
00:26:37.560 We all get this.
00:26:38.800 We get this sometimes seemingly crazy idea, just do this.
00:26:46.220 But we often will dismiss it.
00:26:48.240 I will often dismiss it as, oh, that's just weird.
00:26:51.520 Was that me?
00:26:52.380 Was that somebody else?
00:26:53.060 But it's a great rule.
00:26:54.560 It's a great rule.
00:26:55.620 Well, if it's not sinful in any way, and it's not going to hurt anybody, why not do it?
00:27:02.960 Right.
00:27:03.780 That's just great.
00:27:05.100 And God writes, he writes straight with a crooked line.
00:27:07.060 I'm sure you've heard that.
00:27:08.460 And it's so true.
00:27:09.880 How many times we have our own ideas and something goes totally different.
00:27:14.080 And then we cross paths with somebody who needs our prayers or we need their prayers.
00:27:21.140 Or so it's really amazing how that works.
00:27:24.420 I wish I could tell you this amazing story.
00:27:27.200 I was asked to give a retreat for women at my church.
00:27:30.800 I'm part of the Women's Guild. 1.00
00:27:31.860 And I prayed.
00:27:33.540 I invited Jesus and the Blessed Mother to attend.
00:27:36.240 In fact, I said, just take over.
00:27:37.980 You know, you're much more competent than me.
00:27:40.020 Just run the whole thing.
00:27:42.240 So the woman who does the pictures for the newsletter said, Christine, I can't be there.
00:27:48.400 Can you take pictures?
00:27:51.260 I said, okay.
00:27:52.340 So I snapped pictures.
00:27:53.960 A few days later, I looked at the pictures.
00:27:56.120 Well, I wish I could show it.
00:27:57.680 I'll try and send it after this interview.
00:28:00.040 Please do.
00:28:00.380 But a picture showed up with, you know, the Divine Mercy Jesus with the red and white rays
00:28:06.340 coming out of his heart.
00:28:08.160 That showed up in a picture that I took.
00:28:12.040 I was just spellbound.
00:28:14.320 I couldn't believe it.
00:28:15.540 So I was sending it to everybody.
00:28:17.440 I was just amazed that that.
00:28:21.260 That showed up in a picture.
00:28:23.820 He really showed up after I prayed about it.
00:28:26.880 Well, finally, I ran into a woman who had attended that seminar, that retreat.
00:28:31.740 And I said, oh, Christina, look, Divine Mercy Jesus showed up.
00:28:36.140 Look at this picture.
00:28:37.420 She said, Christine, that's your fingernail.
00:28:42.140 Somehow I got my own fingernail in the picture.
00:28:46.180 I said, well, at least I had my nails painted red that day, you know.
00:28:51.260 So I'll send you the picture.
00:28:53.820 But, you know, God has a sense of humor, too.
00:28:56.120 But that has worked well because then I can just, in passing, talk to atheists or agnostics.
00:29:03.300 It's a funny story.
00:29:04.780 And I can say, you know about Divine Mercy Jesus?
00:29:07.320 And they're like, no, never heard of it.
00:29:09.080 I'm like, well, he's got rays coming out, meaning unlimited love and unlimited forgiveness
00:29:13.600 for all of us.
00:29:14.620 And I pass over that and I get to the punchline.
00:29:17.120 But it really is a powerful tool, you know.
00:29:20.560 So that's how God works, too, sometimes, you know, in a funny way.
00:29:24.840 And that story has allowed me to, I think, touch some hearts and introduce Divine Mercy
00:29:29.980 Jesus without it being so blatant.
00:29:35.660 Absolutely beautiful.
00:29:37.380 Christine, thank you so much for sharing everything with us.
00:29:39.860 Any final thoughts for us?
00:29:40.980 Well, what I'm doing now is learning about the gift of living in the Divine Will.
00:29:46.620 Have you heard of that?
00:29:48.580 I believe so, yeah.
00:29:50.220 Is it Louisa Picoretta?
00:29:51.900 Yes, Louisa Picoretta, yes.
00:29:54.480 And actually, I've been in it about 15 years.
00:29:57.740 And kind of an analogy, I used to think when we died and went, if we, you know, luckily
00:30:03.380 make it to heaven someday, that it's one and done.
00:30:07.300 You know, there's going to be unbelievable colors and pictures and smells and experiences,
00:30:14.560 but all in one day.
00:30:16.320 You get there and that's it.
00:30:18.280 And then recently, I read that it's exponentially better every single day.
00:30:24.640 So think of, you know, exponents, how, you know, what that means every single day for all
00:30:32.040 of eternity, that that's what you're experiencing.
00:30:34.360 It's just unlimited, and that's what the bit of information about this gift of living in
00:30:42.280 the Divine Will, you can never exhaust it all.
00:30:44.780 You can never learn it all.
00:30:45.820 It's just so exciting.
00:30:47.900 And that is one thing I told Stephen Hawking, the only bit of science or astrophysicist that
00:30:56.000 I could even think to say, and I love this, though, there are more stars in our galaxy
00:31:04.300 than grains of sand on our planet, and more galaxies in our universe than stars in our
00:31:10.360 galaxy.
00:31:11.280 So in essence, that's infinity, right?
00:31:14.420 For the human brain, that's infinity.
00:31:16.700 That's, you know, eternity.
00:31:17.860 And that's what heaven, I think, is going to be like, and also this gift of living in
00:31:23.280 the Divine Will.
00:31:24.400 So it's very exciting to have that gift, and of course, the gift of the Divine Mercy Chaplet.
00:31:32.500 And we know one drop of Jesus' blood is more powerful to eradicate all the sins from the
00:31:38.860 beginning of time to the end of time, including murder.
00:31:41.160 So that gives me a lot of hope when I pray, you know, I just drop that one drop of blood
00:31:45.820 on Jeff Bezos, the precious blood of Jesus, Jesus for a complete conversion for him and
00:31:52.700 just all of our world leaders.
00:31:54.740 And it just gives us a lot of hope.
00:31:57.600 You know, Jesus is so loving and so forgiving, and he wins.
00:32:05.760 We know we're on the winning side.
00:32:07.540 And we have our Blessed Mother and all the wonderful things she does, just embracing
00:32:12.780 our children.
00:32:13.840 And we just keep praying, right?
00:32:15.740 Do our little bit, and they repay us a million-fold with our little efforts, right?
00:32:23.860 Indeed.
00:32:24.500 I think a lot of people, hopefully, who are watching this, are going to join you in praying
00:32:28.120 for Jeff Bezos.
00:32:29.520 And he showed openness.
00:32:32.980 He showed openness to, you know, the rosary and to your gift and to your praying for him.
00:32:38.360 So if you join in that, you never know.
00:32:40.760 God might work on his heart.
00:32:42.400 So that is beautiful.
00:32:44.360 And I'm going to send you that holy fingernail. 1.00
00:32:47.980 Please do, Christine.
00:32:49.860 God bless you, Christine, and thank you again.
00:32:52.280 Thank you.
00:32:52.720 Thank you for all you do.
00:32:54.200 Your team is awesome.
00:32:55.420 I love Father and Liz, and you're just really stellar in your work and what you do.
00:33:01.460 You make so much sense, and you work so hard.
00:33:04.240 So thank you, thank you, thank you.
00:33:06.860 Praise God.
00:33:07.440 Thank you.
00:33:07.940 God bless you.
00:33:09.280 And God bless all of you.
00:33:11.340 And we'll see you next time.
00:33:12.120 Hi, everyone.
00:33:21.060 This is John Henry Weston.
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