Pro-life Advocate Mark Houck Raided by FBI Now Seeking JUSTICE
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Pro-Life hero Mark Hauck talks about his acquittals, his run for Congress, and why he thinks the government is trying to silence pro-lifers in America. He also talks about the DC-9 raid and how he was able to get clear of the charges against him.
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After the acquittal, there was this desire in my heart to file a civil rights action against
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the government. I knew it had to be done for accountability's sake, that I needed to do it
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just like I needed to hold the line in the trial for the good of the pro-life movement and the
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First Amendment rights. I knew I needed to do that despite what would happen to me.
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Hello, my friends. You all remember very well, especially at this time, Mark Hauck. He was
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the first guy who America woke up to going, whoa, something's really gone wrong with our country.
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When his house, his family was raided by FBI agents, dozens of them, it sent a shockwave
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through America. They had pointed guns at his family, banging on his door at the earliest
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middle of the night kind of morning hours, ridiculously early. And kids are screaming,
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they're wondering what's going on. He left that house shackled and his kids totally traumatized,
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his wife traumatized. Unbelievable. He went on to get cleared of the charges. He went on to run for
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Congress. He went on to now launch a huge four plus million dollar lawsuit against the DOJ. We're
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going to talk to him right now and get his opinion on what's going on with the DC-9 and all this
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persecution of pro-lifers in America today. Stay tuned to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show
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Thanks, John Henry. Always a pleasure to be with you.
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Let's begin as we always do with the sign of the cross. In the name of the Father and of the Son
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and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. So, Mark, you've been really busy. Why don't you tell us that we covered
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your being found innocent and announced about your running for Congress. Take us forward a little bit
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from there. How did that go and what's happened? Yeah, sure. Well, always a big thanks to LifeSite
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who broke the story for the first time when the raid happened and had been a friend to us ever
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since. So, happy to have an update here. So, yeah, we were acquitted back in January 2023, less than a
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year and a half ago. From there, we just went in a gratitude tour where we were pretty much traveling
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around the country. Keynote speaker for a lot of pro-life events, banquets, and stuff, and raised a lot
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of money for a lot of great pro-life missions out there. That was wonderful. And in the midst of all
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that, John Henry, people were inviting me to run for political office, which I told them immediately,
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no way. And that was not something I wanted to do, nothing I ever envisioned for myself. Yet, there was
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this continual response of like, hey, you should do something like this. But what it became for me was
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a sacred, kind of a sacred duty response moment, prayer, discernment, whatever. I was seeing a need,
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and basically, I equated to, you know, the soldiers signing up for war after D-Day, saying, you know
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what, I don't really want to do this, but I have to do this. You know, I have to defend my country. I
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have to do these things. The D-Day guys come to mind. And they're scared, you know. And there was
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that piece of that for me. But yet, I felt a sacred duty to do what I could if God had given me a
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platform, being the face of the weaponization of the government in America. I felt like I had a
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voice. And I did. And we put forward a good message. We ran for Congress. We did lose our
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congressional primary. That doesn't mean we didn't win. You know, you can lose a ray of an election,
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but have victory. And so the victory lies in the messaging and the encouragement that we brought to
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many people. However, we also learned that it's not very much a fair fight when you get into politics.
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And so whether we did lose, you know, by the numbers, but did we really? It's hard really to
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know because some of the things are stacked against you. So you got to see the other side of things.
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You got to see the dirty side of things. It was really, in a lot of ways, toxic. But yet, God's
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grace, once again, just like in the trial, just like when I was arrested, was sufficient. And even
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though it was very despicable at times, kept a clean campaign and we moved forward. And, you know,
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we just pronounced Jesus and we just proclaimed Christ love in the midst of our campaign. And
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that was incredible. You know, people, we were beginning every meet and greet with prayer and
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closing it with prayer, you know. So there was a lot of good that came of it.
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Beautiful. I have to ask you, and feel free to decline, how's Ryan Murray and how are the kids?
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Well, you're always sensitive to that as a father of many children and knowing your spouse. Look,
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Ryan Murray had to be on board with that. She's an amazing woman. And how is she doing?
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She's, whether she's struggling or not, she doesn't show it, even though we have
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an awareness of, of all of us have PTSD. When we filed the lawsuit, which we get into,
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I hyperventilated four times reading it. And I said to my wife, look, if I'm struggling with this,
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how much more are our children struggling with this? So we bought two puppies. We bought two puppies
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to calm the kids down and, and keep, and bring a little joy into the home. Not that they were sad,
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but there was just this trauma that was around them that was triggered with unannounced guests
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on the property. You've been to the property, you know, it was just kind of there hovering around
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them. You know, we still have to address that, but overall, we're all doing good. The kids are
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Amazing. Amazing. You're people of great prayer and love for our Lord. So that's not surprising.
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Let's get into this lawsuit. What is it? What's it about? And what for?
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Yeah, look, so after the acquittal, there was this desire in my heart to file a civil rights
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action against the government. I wanted to do it. I didn't know how to do it, but I knew it had to be
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done. I knew it had to be done for accountability sake that I needed to do it. Just like I needed to
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hold the line in the trial for the good of the pro-life movement and the first amendment rights
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holders and all Americans. I knew I needed to do that despite what would happen to me. But I also
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know that I need to file this lawsuit despite the odds of it not being successful. I needed to do
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it for the good of America. And so as of March 2023, I really didn't know what to do. Thomas
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Moore Society couldn't handle it. It's too big of a case and it's really too big of an issue for a
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small law firm like them. So thankfully, we had some people come forward that said, hey, we want to
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help you and we know the people that can do this. So we had a law firm based out of Kansas City
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and they've done this before. They've sued government before, even though the king has
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a lot of immunity. So as we just learned, right, the Supreme Court, like there's immunity in light
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of what the government can and can't do. However, when they break their own rules, when the government
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fails to fulfill its own rules and violates all those principles and laws that are in place.
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And in November of 2023, we filed a formal notice. So what happened last year was we put the
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government on notice that we were going to sue them. In other words, we gave the government an
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opportunity to say, yes, this was egregious. We don't want this to go to a trial. Let's deal with
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this. Settle out of court, whatever. Let's be accountable. Well, the government hasn't responded
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to any of that. Didn't respond at all. For six months went by. So we filed the formal lawsuit
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on May 20th, 2024. So just over a month ago was the formal lawsuit. In other words,
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the government was formally notified that they are in a lawsuit now, that they have to answer
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to. The government has 60 days to reply to that. And that's kind of the window we're in right now.
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So, yes, you know, there is a large number put to that. But frankly, it's not about the money.
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It's about holding them accountable. And I really don't care if we get any money. It's really just so
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that the government cannot do this to citizens like Paul Vaughn, you or anybody else.
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Let's talk about that because we've just seen in your wake of innocence, we've seen just a spate of,
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I honestly think of them as criminal actions against pro-lifers. Let's talk about Paul Vaughn
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because Paul Vaughn and your case are very similar because he's got 11 kids. He's a dad. He's arrested
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in front of, I believe, seven of his kids at gunpoint as well. Total insanity. And the day
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we're filming this, he was sentenced, wasn't found innocent like you were, but he was sentenced and
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he didn't go to the jail of nearly 11 years, 10, 10 and a half years. They were promising fine of up
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to 300 plus thousand dollars. He was given probation. It's still stunning. He was represented by Thomas
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Moore. Of course, they're great. It's still a travesty, even though he didn't get the punishment that
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they were kind of licking their chops about. Tell us about Paul Vaughn and your thoughts on what
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happened to him and the ruling. Yeah. Well, I talked to Paul, not since the ruling, but we talked
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in his advance to his trial and he was, we talked even before my trial, you know, there was a
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correspondence there. So, you know, kind of kindred spirits there, you know, certainly a guy who can
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understand my, what I went through and me, him. So there was a lot of brotherly love there and
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affection for what he was going through and empathy, obviously for me. And so whereby I was acquitted,
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he was not. So I'm happy for the ruling. Obviously, I wish he didn't have anything, but I'm happy that
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he's not going to be in prison. And that, that's, that should be that way. The man shouldn't be serving
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any time, let alone probation. Nonetheless, here he is in a system that's, that's compromised,
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that's corrupt. It's a two-tiered system of justice. And, and now he's, he's a victim in all
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of that. And that's why, one of the reasons why I'm suing, because somehow miraculously, I, I,
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who should have been behind bars and not behind bars. And yet Paul is, and, and the, the DC nine are,
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you know, are, are being sentenced. So my heart breaks for the, for them. They didn't do anything
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wrong. We know, as Aquinas says, an unjust law is not a law at all. These people were exercising
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their first amendment rights. And, and even Paul himself in his own actions was not in violation
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of the face act, best of my knowledge. So, um, this face hack needs to be repealed. And I hope
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through my, my case that ultimately it will be a source for the repeal of, of those laws so that we
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you on the LifeSite News team. I just want to note to everyone, I mean, if they've been faithfully
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reading LifeSite, sure, they know it already. But just for those who don't, because I think a lot of
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people would come to see you and hear you, I describe it as torture that these pro-life activists
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are receiving behind bars. It's unreal. We talked on our show before about Heather Idoni, one of the
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prisoners. She was given 22 days in solitary confinement with the lights on constantly. She was let out four
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hours, but it was during the nighttime, so she couldn't see anybody. She's put in solitary for
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22 days. And why? Oh, by the way, what was the crime? In prison, she shared her food with other
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prisoners. I just, and this is America. You remember, I'm looking sort of, I'm your northern
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neighbor from Canada looking down thinking, what's going on? In the land of the free and the home of
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the brave, what's happening? Your case was so stunning. It was sort of the wake-up call, but you'd think
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people would have recoiled in horror. I can't, I can't, I can't believe we just did that to a family of seven
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kids. You know, took a German cardinal to come from the Vatican to be with you there after I came
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and visited your house. But no, they keep going. That's the stunning part. They keep going. They're
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persecuting these dads of huge families. They're wanting to send them to jail and find them. And
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then once they get them in prison, they're, they're doing torture. What's going on?
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Yeah. You know, it's, it's, it's brazen, right? They, they don't care. And, and so what we see are
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enemies of the state, you know, we see pro-life people as being considered enemies of the state.
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And so sadly, as a result of my case, I would, I wish I could pronounce on your interview and in
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your airwaves that you have, the platform you have, that the pro-life movement has been galvanized as a
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result of what happened to me. No, we've lost a lot of support. People, we can't get people to come out
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for prayer vigils anymore. This is exactly what the government wants. They want to scare people.
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They want to scare pro-life people. And they're using Ava Edel and Mrs. Adonai and, and, and Paul
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Vaughn as examples. And, and this is what they're trying to do. My case, okay, we didn't win that one.
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They're just going on to the next one. And it's the same people that prosecuted me are prosecuting
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them. You know, sadly, that's the reality of the situation. And if president Biden gets reelected
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or that regime comes back for a four more terms, it's going to continue. You know, this is just a
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setup. The ball is still coming down the hill rolling and it's getting, picking up steam. And so,
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you know, these little things that we're doing, these little small victories and lawsuits and stuff,
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you know, ultimately, hopefully it will stop that from happening. But right now the government,
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the FBI, the DOJ, which does not serve its purpose anymore, is continuing to wreak havoc
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on the family and the American citizens. So, and sadly, Paul and pro-lifers are, are really the,
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the tip of the spear there. Unbelievable. And it doesn't end. So this progresses further and further
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because remember, we have countries now, and in the UK even, which is, oh, they're so sophisticated,
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where you're arrested for praying outside a clinic. Praying silently by you. No sign,
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just standing there praying. And the lady's asked by the cops, what are you doing here?
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I'm praying. What are you praying about? So this is coming to an America near you folks.
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It's not the time to back down. It's not the time to say, nope, I'm not going to go outside the
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abortuary and pray because it's, no, it's time to stand for your country. It's time to stand for
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your faith. It's just unreal because the, the progression just continues. So many things I want
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to talk to you about. Well, one of the ones that I thought we should address is also, what are you
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doing today? What, what is Mark Hauck up to right now? Because I think a lot of people want to know.
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Yeah. Well, you know, it's, it's interesting. It's been a crazy two years. You know, we're coming
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upon August, which is the month before I was raided in my home. I had not, you know, I had a target
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letter on me at this time, two years ago. So for two years, it's been a hot seat. And the last couple
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months, you know, the Lord has given us a chance to kind of reconnect as a family and just kind of
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pray and discern, like, what are you asking of us? Why did you allow this to happen? Why am I set free
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and not these other folks? You know, what, what does it that mean? What does that mean for me and
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my family? And I, and I think we're, we're still to a degree waiting on that. I think we have some
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idea where we're, we're, we're moving the campaign. You know, we didn't know whether we're going to win
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or not, but we just were faithful to that. We didn't win. So, you know, whatever we're, we're just
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left to move forward with that. Sometimes you just say, what was that all about Lord? But I think the
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Lord wanted us to encourage people, you know, our goal right now, what I'm trying to do is really to
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galvanize the pro-life movement, not only to get President Trump reelected, but to really start
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educating and, you know, forming this base to understand the pro-life movement and who we are as a
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holistic unit, a group of people who are pro-family, pro-mom, pro-dad. And the pro-life movement is not
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just contained within the life of the child in utero. You know, there's so much to what we do.
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And I think politically speaking, we don't articulate that very well. And I think even as a
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whole, you know, Catholics don't always represent that well either. Sometimes we do an injustice to,
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to all the good that we do because we don't know how to represent it well. And so I think what we're
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trying to do now is, is to help in the political arena. I still have my ministry that I do to men,
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but help in the political arena to really shape this messaging because we don't are, we're not
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abandoning the life issue, nor should we, you know, we, we don't need to retreat from a good issue,
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a good issue for us, an issue that is of primordial importance. So we just need to articulate it better.
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And I think God's asking me to help not only the Republican party, which isn't the party of God,
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but the Republican party to understand that. And then ultimately the nation to articulate it well.
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Indeed. Now I hear there's film being made about you, about your life. Can you share some details
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about that? Yeah. So interestingly enough, in the last couple of months, I was approached by,
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you know, some producers, some film people that want to, want our story to get out there. You know,
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what happened, you know, I travel all over the country like you do. I'm amazed at how many people
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don't know what happened to me. I mean, I'm in that pro-life circles and I'll ask an audience and
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at least a third of the people don't know what happened. They may have heard of it, but they really
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don't know what happened or they have very little knowledge of it. So sadly, that's the case. These
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guys in Canada, no less want to put together a script. They're currently writing the script for a film
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that's going to be a pro-life film. That's going to pretty much bring to light what happened to me.
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And they're going to pretty much use the trial, United States versus Mark Houck, as kind of a base
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for some of their storyline. And it's going to have a pro-life message. I don't know how it's
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going to evolve, but it looks really positive. It's going to use our witness to kind of influence
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others because it isn't an important story to hear. It's a compelling one. You know, I don't know
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when it's going to come out, but they're working on it right now. And hopefully in 2025, we'll have
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something in action at that point. Absolutely beautiful. Mark, last thing for you. When I
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went to visit you guys, the story was stunning. What had happened to you was stunning. More stunning
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than all of that is your faith and the faith of your family, your prayer life. Give us just a few
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words, if you would, about your faith, what that's meant to you and what it's like now.
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Yeah, I recently did an interview and we have to start seeing, and I think I am seeing it,
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that suffering, persecution really need to be synonymous with blessing. And as we think of our
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prayer life and, you know, we ask God for blessing, right? We pray for blessings upon this interview.
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We pray for blessings upon our family. We have to see blessings in the midst of the whole dynamic
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of persecution and suffering. They almost have to, they got to be symbiotic. And so one of the things
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that I'm learning through my prayer life is that, well, we know no one gets through this life without
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suffering. However, our attitude about it needs to be one of welcome, almost. Whereas you welcome and
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integrate the suffering and the persecution into a very well-balanced communication and dialogue with
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God, right? So this wonderful, you know, I love you, Jesus, and you love me, and I'm your beloved son,
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beloved daughter, and all this is important. But in the midst of that, we got to know that in that
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prayer and discernment is going to be some, you know, friction, and there's going to be some times
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where we're not happy. And that doesn't mean there's not joy. Joy certainly abounds amidst that.
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But one of the things I'm learning in my own prayer life is to really welcome, welcome those
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inconveniences, those suffering. And I guess to sum this all up, one thing that I came to very recently
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was I talk to men a lot, and I say, you know, you want to be a great man, right? A great leader.
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And most men would say, yeah, I'd like to have something like that, or at least in my own sphere
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of influence. And I said, the key for you becoming great is for you to understand and embrace your
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insignificance. And one of the things that it taught me when the government took me away in shackles and
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chains away from my family, I understood how insignificant I really was, how insignificant I really was to my
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family, and how insignificant I really am to the world. And I saw in the midst of that insignificance
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that I was significant. That is just so boggling to me, that in my own insignificance, I became
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significant to the pro-life movement, significant to my family. And because I linked myself, and this was
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the only thing I could do, to our Lord's suffering, I linked on to His significance. And ultimately, that's
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where I think men find, and I've been finding in my own prayer life, that this is really, it all comes
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back to humility, right, John Henry? It's the humility that says, I am God's beloved servant,
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son, and I do His will, and I don't need anything in this life. It's all about Him. And I'm telling men,
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and I say, look, guys, if you want to be great, become less important. And I think ultimately, we look at the
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cross, we say, they would have said back 2,000 years ago, that man was pretty unimportant, because
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he ended up on a cross. But yet, most significant, most glorious action ever in the history of time.
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So we see the great leader, the great man in Christ, who totally becomes insignificant in the
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world's eyes, but beyond our imagination in God's eyes. So that's just some of my reflections. I don't
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know where that took us, but it's definitely been profound for my journey. Absolutely beautiful. A
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journey that America's been with you on, and has learned a lot from you. Please, please give my
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best to Ryan Murray and your beautiful kids. Thank you. Where can people learn more about Mark Hauck?
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Yeah, so they can go to thekingsmen.org to learn about my ministry, full-time men's ministry,
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thekingsmen.org, and all my contact information is there. Awesome. God bless you, Mark,
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and God bless all of you, and we'll see you next time.
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