The real reason why Nancy Pelosi is a pro-abortion ‘Catholic'
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Nancy Pelosi calls herself a devout Catholic yet is one of the most pro-abortion politicians in America. Have you ever wondered how she got there? Well, join me for a rather fascinating look into Nancy Pelosi s stance on Catholicism and morality and politics.
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Nancy Pelosi calls herself a devout Catholic, yet is one of the most pro-abortion politicians
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Well, join me for a rather fascinating look into Nancy Pelosi's stance on Catholicism
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We'll see the hints she left as to how she got to where she is and what can and should
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Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.
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In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
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Last week, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was in the news again, touting her Catholic faith.
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She was asked by a reporter if she hated President Trump, and she lectured the reporter about
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not hating anyone, and even praying for the President.
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As a Catholic, I resent your using the word hate in a sentence that addresses me.
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I was raised in a way that is a heart full of love, and always prayed for the President.
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So don't mess with me when it comes to words like that.
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In fact, there are many Catholics who are indeed quite proud of Nancy for standing up for the
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Catholic values in that impromptu little speech.
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And yet, Nancy Pelosi is one of the biggest abortion-promoting politicians in America.
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Pelosi boasts a 100% voting record from Planned Parenthood and National Abortion Rights Action League.
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But more than even that, Pelosi has consistently painted her pro-abortion position as consistent
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with Catholic teaching, and she's done the same with her support for same-sex marriage.
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In 2013, in response to a question from a reporter about a ban on late-term abortion proposed in Congress,
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Pelosi said that the issue of late-term abortion is, quote, sacred ground for her.
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But her most in-depth interview on the subject was with NBC's Tom Brokaw in 2008,
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where Pelosi tried to make a theological argument about abortion being consistent with Catholic
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Senator Obama is saying the question of when life begins is above his pay grade, whether
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you're looking at it scientifically or theologically.
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If he were to come to you and say, help me out here, Madam Speaker, when does life begin?
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I would say that as an ardent practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long
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time, and what I know is over the centuries, the doctors of the church have not been able
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to make that definition, and St. Augustine said at three months.
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The point is, is that it shouldn't have an impact on a woman's right to choose.
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Roe v. Wade talks about very clear definitions of when the first trimester, certain considerations,
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It's about a careful, careful consideration of all factors that a woman has to make with
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And so I don't think anybody can tell you when life begins.
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As I say, the Catholic Church for centuries has been discussing this, and there are those
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The Catholic Church at the moment feels very strongly that it begins at the point of a
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I understand that, and this is like maybe 50 years or something like that.
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So again, over the history of the church, this is an issue of controversy.
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But it is also true that God has given us, each of us, a free will and a responsibility
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That's why we have this fight in Congress over contraception.
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My Republican colleagues do not support contraception.
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If you want to reduce the number of abortions, and we all do, you must.
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It would behoove you to support family planning and contraception, you would think.
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So we have to take, you know, we have to handle this as respectfully as the sacred ground.
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And she's done the same with same-sex marriage.
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And in a 2015 interview with MSNBC's Thomas Roberts, Pelosi said that same-sex marriage
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is perfectly consistent with Catholic Christianity.
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In fact, she told Roberts that her grandchildren came with her to receive an award from the Gay
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and Lesbian Victory Fund to show the young children that, quote, marriage equality is
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Pelosi, who described herself as a faithful Christian and mainstream Catholic, in her words,
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said that the pre-adolescent grandchildren needed to see and be present at the Gay and
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Lesbian celebration in order to, quote, give them the image of what we have for all people.
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And that meaning the image of the Catholic Church has for all.
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She also said that same-sex marriage is important.
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It's important that her grandchildren have the message that, quote, they have been hearing,
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that is the message from, about gay marriage, that they've been hearing their whole life because
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She said, matter-of-factly, that same-sex marriage is consistent with the dignity and
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worth that Catholics attribute to every person.
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It was a great honor that you received here in New York City.
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We can show the picture of you with your grandkids and I think Tim Gunn, where you received your
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There it is, last night, from the Victory Fund.
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Oh, it's really important for them to see what the practice of our faith is, the dignity
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and respect that we have for all people and that equality, marriage equality, is important.
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They go to Catholic school and this is consistent with the dignity and worth we attribute to every
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But what I found most interesting in my research was that Pelosi left clues as to how she got
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to where she is today, and they make for a very powerful lesson.
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Over the years, she's mentioned at least twice that her family was not where her pro-abortion
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Speaking with NBC's Chuck Todd in 2019, she said, quote,
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I have served many years in Congress with members who have not shared my very positive, and my
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family would say aggressive, position on promoting a woman's right to choose, end quote.
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But Pelosi went into greater detail in an interview with the National Catholic Reporters Joe Feuerherd
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Asked about abortion, Pelosi said, and I quote,
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I come myself from a family that does not share my views on choice, end quote.
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Feuerherd retorted, well, that must make for some interesting dinner table conversations.
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I think there are occasions where they would like me to be less visible, that they don't
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like to see any disagreement between the church and any of us.
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So, where did she get to be the pro-abortion while still claiming to be devout Catholic
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Well, the answer seems to be the false teaching she received at what was supposed to be a premier
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I'm saddened, especially in light of these lines in Pelosi's memoirs.
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My parents didn't raise me to be a speaker, that is the speaker of the house.
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And that's from Nancy Pelosi's Know Your Power, page 27.
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To me, that's really sad, because as a Catholic parent myself, whose greatest desire for my
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kids is to be holy, the last thing I want for them to be is confused about the faith, especially
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And you see, that distortion happened to Nancy Pelosi, despite the best wishes of her parents.
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And it happened at a private Catholic college that cost a lot of money.
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And as a Catholic parent myself, with kids in college, that really hurts.
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Indeed, it seems that Pelosi's parents raised her with the right morals, but her morals were
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corrupted by corrupt religious who in turn were not disciplined by the hierarchy of the
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The first hint that I heard that Pelosi might have been deformed by a false Catholic education
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was in a comment of hers gushing about Pope Francis in 2013.
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She said of Pope, she was talking, by the way, about Pope Francis's liberal stances.
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His holiness is obviously a very revered figure.
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And I, being Catholic, believe that he was chosen Pope by the intercession of the Holy Spirit.
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And I can tell you that there's great joy among Catholics and friends of Catholics as to
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the respect that his holiness pays to all of God's creation and members of the church and
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I'm not sure it's a source of joy to all Catholics simply because I've seen conservative Catholics
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Well, I don't know about them because certainly when it was another Pope who had something else
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to say, they had something, they wanted to hold us all to it.
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So what was that false Catholic education she received that so distorted the faith her
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Well, the answer comes in a fascinating article by Kevin Carey published in the 2011 Washington
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It's about Trinity Women's College in Washington, D.C., founded by the Sisters of Notre-Dame
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The article inadvertently reveals the rebellion against the church's teaching that the nuns
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lived and evidently passed on to their students.
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It reveals lame attempts by the church hierarchy to correct the nuns, all the while allowing them
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to continue to deform the faith in many young women.
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And finally, it reveals the disastrous consequences not only for those women, but for their children
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In that article, author Kevin Carey speaks of Trinity College alumni, including two of the
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most prominent female pro-abortion politicians in U.S. history.
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In addition to Nancy Pelosi, there's also Kathleen Sebelius, who after serving as the governor
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of Kansas, was the Secretary of Health and Human Services in the Obama administration.
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When Forbes magazine recently published, that's recently in 2011, by the way,
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recently published its list of the hundred most powerful women in the world,
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only Princeton undergraduate alumni outnumbered those of tiny, little-known Trinity College.
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The distortion of the faith these nuns passed on to their students is revealed by Carey.
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He notes that in 1984, two of the nuns from the college, and I quote,
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joined 23 other nuns and priests and brothers to sign a pro-choice statement that was published
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The Vatican reacted angrily and forced all the other signers to make public declarations
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Only the two sisters, and those are the two from Trinity College, refused.
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The Vatican demanded that they be dismissed from the order,
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So, those nuns continued their rebellion until the day the article was written.
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And I quote, because this is written at a time when Pelosi becomes the speaker.
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Pelosi attended a special morning mass in Trinity's small stone chapel,
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sitting in the front pew, surrounded by her many grandchildren.
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Then he adds that Sister Clayton, one of the current sisters in the order, was in the audience.
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A few weeks earlier, President McGuire, that's the president of the college,
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had preemptively called the Archbishop of Washington to inform him that she had no intention
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There were, of course, many more of these types of influences on Nancy Pelosi that distorted her faith,
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including the scandalous example of Father Drennan.
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Well, there's a simple answer, and that is from Christ himself,
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But that type of answer, at least since the Second Vatican Council,
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has been for the most part ignored or even disdained.
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It can start with simply denying someone in public grave sin Holy Communion after they've been warned.
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All done for the purpose of saving the person's soul.
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If another member of the church sins against you, go and point out the fault,
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If the member listens to you, you have regained that one.
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But if you are not listened to, take one or two others along with you,
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so that every word might be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses.
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If the member refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church.
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And if the offender refuses to listen even to the church,
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let such a one be to you as a Gentile and tax collector.
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Pelosi has been warned and warned and warned for decades
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about her sin in supporting the killing of unborn children.
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A sin that is at least as grievous as supporting racism.
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if you supported racism publicly as a politician.
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Well, in 2008, when she made those comments that we heard earlier
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about abortion being consistent with the Catholic teaching,
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about 26 U.S. bishops confronted Pelosi in public statements.
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Shortly thereafter, in early 2009, when Pelosi was visiting the Vatican,
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Pope Benedict XVI himself made a point of speaking to her about
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a just system of laws capable of protecting human life
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And that interview with Pelosi or that meeting with Pelosi by the Pope
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have said over and over again that pro-abortion politicians,
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This because, in addition to the public scandal that it causes,
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If you're wondering about that, read 1 Corinthians 11.29.
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And also, having Nancy Pelosi publicly receiving Communion
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distorts the truth, making many think that Christ's church
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is actually okay with abortion and same-sex marriage.
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And finally, we can see the harm it's causing also to her own children
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and grandchildren, who are growing up with this example of false Catholicism,
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It's a false church, and one that leads to eternal damnation,
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In 2013, Priests for Life founder Father Frank Pavone
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wrote a public letter to Pelosi, which gained media attention.
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Mrs. Pelosi, for decades you have gotten away with betraying
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as well as the responsibilities of public office.
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Either exercise your duties as a Catholic public servant
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The arrogance of it all is like something ancient or medieval.
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My faith is very deep and has been my whole life.
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I love my faith and my faith has nothing to do with whoever he is.
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and has the responsibility to live up to a moral standard.
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And I respect women's judgment and values to do that.
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Whether this priest thinks his judgment should be another woman's judgment
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who consider themselves practicing and respectful Catholics
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whether inside or outside the womb, reprehensible.
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Whatever Catholic faith you claim to respect and practice,
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It is not the faith that the Catholic Church teaches.
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that it's time for you to stop speaking as if it were.
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due to the failure to discipline wayward religious.