Lucy Akello is a parliamentarian from Uganda who is actually speaking to a committee of the Foreign Affairs and International Development Department about sexual health and reproductive freedom for women globally. She's here as one of five speakers to this committee, only two of whom we know are pro-life.
00:00:00.000We have our values. Canada has its values. Let each of us stick to our values and not suppress
00:00:06.680the other, simply because you have more money, I have less money, so you can play around with my
00:00:12.060head, play around with my rules, play around with my policies, play around with my values,
00:00:17.580and you think everything is okay. No, it can never be okay.
00:00:21.020It's John Henry Weston for LifeSite News, and we are here on another frigid day right outside the
00:00:33.080parliament buildings in Canada, the country which is pressuring all of Africa to accept the LGBT and
00:00:40.960contraception and abortion agenda. And right here inside parliament is Lucy Akello, a parliamentarian
00:00:48.760from Uganda, who is actually speaking to a committee of the Foreign Affairs and International
00:00:54.220Development Department about sexual health and reproductive health for women globally. She's
00:01:01.160here as one of five speakers to this committee, only two of whom we know are pro-life. We're going
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00:03:08.600So it gives us great pleasure at LifeSite News to have with us one of the parliamentarians from Uganda,
00:03:15.040Honorable Lucy Akello, who is asked to come here to speak to the parliamentary group
00:03:21.160dealing with sexual health and reproductive freedom for women globally. Honorable Lucy,
00:03:26.780welcome to the program, and thank you so much for representing the pro-life position here in
00:03:31.520Canada. Thank you so much, John, for having me here. It is for me such a humbling experience to be
00:03:37.300here to talk about something that really, really matters to me, and it's there to my heart.
00:03:42.760So this was very interesting. You went to the committee meeting, and you were actually against a lot of
00:03:51.340different people. Describe for us what happened. Well, I would describe it as being in the den of
00:03:58.260the lion, and I told myself, just like Daniel, he was thrown in there. He got out unhurt. As you can
00:04:07.200see, I am unhurt. I feel at peace. I didn't see the numbers which were against us. For me,
00:04:16.820my focus was setting the position clearly as it is, without having to mince my words. And I did just
00:04:24.280that. That's why I am at peace with my soul. So what did you feel they were encouraging you to do?
00:04:31.880They were encouraging me to drop the idea of saying abortion is wrong, but rather to accept that abortion
00:04:46.920is right, and also to accept that abortion is a right, and also to accept that it is a universal
00:04:55.360right, and also to accept that even if Uganda has a legalized abortion, it is a universal right. Even
00:05:06.100if Uganda is a sovereign state, just like Canada is a sovereign state, it doesn't matter, because human
00:05:12.640rights are universal, and it knows no border. That is what they wanted me to believe, and they wanted me to
00:05:20.260drop, and they wanted me to accept by hook or crook. But my stand is, and will always be, Uganda is a sovereign
00:05:30.700nation, just like Canada is a sovereign nation. We have our values. Canada has its values. Let each of us
00:05:38.920stick to our values, and not suppress the other, simply because you have more money, I have less money,
00:05:45.320so you can play around with my head, play around with my rules, play around with my policies, play around
00:05:51.220with my values, and you think everything is okay. No, it can never be okay.
00:06:01.280Beautiful. Eight, one of the things is true. Somehow, Canada, America, Europe, although they talk
00:06:10.960all about respecting traditions of all these groups and so on, in practice, they're not doing that.
00:06:18.980They're trying to force their values onto Uganda, onto Kenya, onto a lot of Africa, and they don't care
00:06:28.380that these are sovereign nations, that they have their own cultures. They're trying to force it
00:06:33.700anyway. What's your comment on that? Yes, it is being done by hook or crew. Today, I was able
00:06:40.860to give examples of how they are funding organizations to do everything possible, to disorganize our values
00:06:50.080and traditions, our beliefs. Organizations such as Maristops, organizations such as Reproductive
00:06:59.000Health Uganda, being heavily and heavily funded, as opposed to going to fund the real issues that affect
00:07:07.140a common woman, a common woman and a poor girl in Africa. For example, my girl, my girl that I represent
00:07:15.080in my constituency needs simple sanitary pads, sanitary towels to stay at school. She needs school fees
00:07:24.520to stay at school. When she stays at school, she will stay away from unwanted pregnancies. But that's not a
00:07:32.660priority to them. The priority is about as many children as possible, as many as possible. And I kept
00:07:40.320asking myself the whole of last night. So these people are pushing for abortion. So how many abortions
00:07:46.380would a young girl do? For example, a girl who they call it unwanted pregnancy. First of all, there's nothing
00:07:53.660like unwanted pregnancy. Nothing. Every life is beautiful. Whether it is conceived out of rape,
00:08:01.320whether it is conceived, what they call incest, whether it is life is life. How comes there are some
00:08:08.100people who never have the opportunity to actually even get children? They have struggled, they have paid
00:08:14.660money, but still they would never hear the cry of a child. So for me, life is beautiful. Life itself is a miracle.
00:08:22.320And that is why I was also able to tell them today, in my culture, in my tradition, once a woman says I am pregnant, this
00:08:29.980woman is treated with so much value and respect because they know she is carrying life. And should this child get out
00:08:38.980through a miscarriage, this child, whether we know the sex or not, whether it is just the blood that comes out, will be
00:08:46.480accorded a decent burial, just like you would accord a big person a burial.
00:08:52.140How did you feel they accepted your message? You know, was it with, did they give you any kind of feedback that indicated where they were coming from?
00:09:02.140Well, they are, they were all relying on research, research, research, research. Oh, you have the data. Oh, you have the statistics.
00:09:12.140So how many abortions are, they call it, unsafe abortions were carried out in Uganda? How many deaths were happening?
00:09:19.380But who is giving them these statistics? Which rural woman did they talk to to tell them that our priority is abortion? Who?
00:09:28.500Which rural woman did they talk to to tell them that contraceptive is what we want? No. Where are they getting their data from?
00:09:36.720They are saying WHO. They are saying UN. But where is the standard of UN in all this? So they are relying on research from Planned Parenthood. I mean, you're going to do a research with already a biased mind? Should I take that research?
00:09:58.060Should I believe in your statistics? When I continuously engage, if I, actually, if I want to lose an election, if I went to my place and I told people, come and line up today, I am distributing contraceptives, that will mark my end of being in parliament.
00:10:20.600Because no woman wants to control. They want to have their children.
00:10:27.600They know, they acknowledge they are poor, but they want the government to create for them space to find their money to look after their children, not suppressing them not to have their children.
00:10:39.320In any case, we have our natural ways of family planning. There's a time the first lady of Uganda introduced what we call the moon bead. Very natural, very safe, and that is what God wants us to do.
00:10:56.080Not going into, not going into, for contraceptives, that first of all, is going to cause a lot of side effects. Terrible, terrible side effects.
00:11:06.660For example, bleeding, excessive bleeding, obesity, high blood pressure. Name it, name it, name it.
00:11:14.560Now, we have unprecedented numbers of cancer cases in Uganda among women.
00:11:24.440Where is this coming from? Where are all these cancer cases coming from?
00:11:29.920Especially, you know, cervical cancer. Where is it coming from?
00:11:34.260These are questions that we have not answered.
00:11:36.480What kind of pressures are you receiving from foreign governments, particularly Europe, America, Canada, to go down this road, to allow for abortion, to allow for contraception, to allow for the LGBT agenda?
00:11:48.480What kind of pressures do you receive?
00:11:50.540So now, what is the pressure, the kind of pressure that our government are going through is?
00:12:26.120Because they merge this all as a human right, a fundamental human right.
00:12:31.340And today I will tell them, who is defining this human right?
00:12:36.780Is it the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights?
00:12:42.220Or is it the human rights definition of now, of today, which has completely changed and brought on board all kinds of human rights which I don't even know?
00:12:53.920So, it's a different definition altogether.
00:12:56.960So the pressures are there, not just for governments, but even for members of parliament, even for leaders.
00:13:03.200Because you are being threatened with sanctions.
00:13:06.080You talk about these issues, know very well that the next time you come, they will scrutinize your document very well and they will find all reasons not to give you a visa.
00:13:20.140So for me, I have told them, I said, well, I have a running visa for Canada.
00:13:26.760I want to see how they will stop me from coming to, if they are really being sincere, we will put this thing on the table, can we talk about it openly?
00:13:35.520You have your disagreement, I have my disagreement.
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00:14:42.900One of the things that in America, because we've been dealing with abortion now for over 50 years, the aftermath, the harm that it causes so many women, not only the physical harm, the physical harm is there as well.
00:14:59.040Sometimes, I mean, women, even America, where everything is safe, women still die from abortions.
00:15:05.060But in addition to that, they have years and sometimes decades-long psychological trauma from this.
00:15:13.080And a lot of them can't have children after an abortion.
00:15:16.700So it always strikes me as strange that they're talking about women's rights and helping the women in Africa, and yet they want to bring there what has caused so much suffering here for women, which has harmed women's rights.
00:15:32.920And when they move from abortion and contraception into the LGBT agenda, then it gets even more bizarre.
00:15:39.840Because now, women in America, in Europe, in Canada, they're losing all the sports competitions to men.
00:15:49.820But, oh no, we're not allowed to call them men.
00:15:51.980They're supposed to be called women now.
00:19:45.580You're on your own, suffering with the pain, suffering with the trauma, suffering with the scar, which nobody will remove apart from God.
00:19:57.600That is, if you go to God sincerely and ask for forgiveness.
00:20:03.980What can those of us who are pro-life in the West, in Europe, in America, in Canada, what can we do to help our brothers and sisters in Africa who are struggling so much against this pressure?
00:20:14.740Help us with as much information as possible.
00:21:03.860So for us, seeing what you're doing here keeps us alive and it gives us the energy to fight on and not to give up.
00:21:11.480And for me, this humbles me because you can imagine you are in a very hostile environment, but you still stand tall and say, yes, I stand for this.
00:23:40.900Honourable Lucia Kello, thank you so very much for your witness, for speaking to us, for coming to Canada to give our parliamentarians a look at the reality of women's rights,
00:23:52.320at the reality of African cultural practice and your beautiful faith.
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