The King's Hall - Lindsay Clancy, Mass Hysteria, & The Feminization of America

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00:00:34.700 in this episode of the king's hall podcast eric and i will be discussing the lindsey clancy case

00:01:01.000 and because of that it's going to be fairly disturbing and we are going to be frank in our

00:01:06.020 discussion and so honestly we would recommend that ladies just skip this episode especially

00:01:11.280 mothers of young children and just wait for the next one

00:01:14.540 the morning of january 24th 2023 dawned cold and bright in duxbury massachusetts fresh snow

00:01:25.460 covered the ground duxbury is the sort of place new england produces particularly well

00:01:30.180 Old houses, beaches, boat ramps, church steeples, and winding roads lined with trees.

00:01:36.640 It's all quite picturesque.

00:01:38.620 The town sits on Massachusetts Bay, roughly 35 miles southeast of Boston,

00:01:43.780 near enough to the metropolis to commute, but far enough away to imagine that you've escaped it.

00:01:48.480 On Summer Street, Patrick Clancy was working from his basement office.

00:01:52.260 He'd made changes to his routine to accommodate the growing concern that he had for his wife Lindsay's mental health.

00:01:58.580 He wanted to be at home to help her, keep track of any problems she was having,

00:02:02.620 and act as a safety net for the kids should she fall into any kind of mentally disturbed behavior.

00:02:08.080 She'd been to psychiatrists and even stayed a short time at a mental hospital.

00:02:12.520 A labor and delivery nurse, Lindsay was upstairs with their three young children,

00:02:16.360 Cora, five, Dawson, three, and Callan, just eight months old.

00:02:21.400 That morning, Lindsay took Cora to the pediatrician for a routine appointment.

00:02:25.560 The doctor would later remember her as an attentive mother.

00:02:28.620 Nothing seemed particularly wrong.

00:02:30.960 In her journal that morning, Lindsay had written that she had a touch of postpartum anxiety,

00:02:35.920 largely because she was wary about returning to work and separating herself each day from her eight-month-old.

00:02:42.100 After the doctor's appointment, Lindsay came home and took Cora and Dawson outside into the snow to play and frolic.

00:02:49.160 They built a snowman.

00:02:50.620 Lindsay took pictures on her phone

00:02:52.100 of the idyllic scene from childhood

00:02:53.800 we're all so fond of,

00:02:55.360 both as parents and as children.

00:02:57.600 It was the kind of winter morning

00:02:58.880 young parents photograph

00:03:00.000 because they know,

00:03:01.520 even while exhausted by it,

00:03:03.320 that these years pass by much too quickly.

00:03:06.480 Rosy cheeks, snow-covered mittens,

00:03:09.340 children laughing in a Massachusetts yard.

00:03:12.160 Lindsay sent photographs to Patrick downstairs

00:03:14.240 and to her own mother.

00:03:15.820 Again, her behavior seems unsurprisingly normal.

00:03:18.620 Had you looked through the window of a neighboring house that morning,

00:03:21.560 you might have thought you were looking at one of the happier homes in America,

00:03:25.340 a mother and two young children posing for pictures and playing in the snow.

00:03:29.700 Eventually, Lindsay got the baby, Callan, up and ready for the day.

00:03:33.840 The hours passed in the ordinary chaos familiar to anyone who's lived with three children under five,

00:03:38.800 feeding people, cleaning people, keeping toddlers occupied, managing naps,

00:03:44.080 answering a slog of never-ending questions, losing things,

00:03:47.500 helping the children find him again, all that. They spent the afternoon doing arts and crafts,

00:03:52.740 and Lindsay would send several photos via text to Patrick. Then shortly after 4 p.m., Lindsay

00:03:58.460 began making dinner plans. At around 4 p.m., she searched her phone for children's Miralax.

00:04:04.600 11 minutes later, she searched for takeout from 3V, a restaurant in Plymouth, and used Apple Maps

00:04:10.600 to determine the travel time from their house to the restaurant. That detail would later matter

00:04:15.020 enormously. 3V wasn't their nearest takeout option. Patrick would later testify that choosing

00:04:20.880 a restaurant that far away was unusual for them. There were more familiar and closer spots in their

00:04:26.040 own town. Prosecutors would argue that Lindsay was calculating how long her husband would be gone

00:04:32.120 because she'd been planning something horrifying. At 447, she called a CVS in nearby Kingston

00:04:39.480 looking for children's constipation medicine. The store manager told her they didn't have the exact

00:04:44.580 product that she wanted, but did carry an equivalent. The manager would later recall

00:04:48.600 nothing strange about Lindsay's voice at all. She wasn't slurring, she didn't sound impaired.

00:04:53.820 It was, as far as the manager could tell, an entirely normal conversation.

00:04:58.480 Six minutes later, Lindsay texted her husband downstairs. Any chance he wanted to do takeout

00:05:03.380 from 3V? She hadn't cooked. It's been a long day, she had said. Patrick agreed, and the two texted

00:05:09.580 back and forth about what to order. Lindsay chose a Mediterranean Power Bowl. Patrick chose scallop

00:05:14.680 and pork belly risotto. At around 5.10, Lindsay called in the order. Then she asked Patrick to

00:05:21.080 make one more stop at CVS for the children's laxative. Before leaving, Patrick briefly

00:05:27.040 rocked eight-month-old Callan. He kissed Cora on the head. I'll be right back, he told the children.

00:05:32.180 Dawson sat on the couch eating a bowl of chicken nuggets. Lindsay stood near the doorway by the

00:05:36.700 basement stairs holding the baby. Patrick looked at his wife. Nothing seemed wrong. He walked out

00:05:42.480 the door. At 5.32 p.m., security cameras recorded Patrick entering CVS. While looking for the

00:05:49.840 medicine, he called Lindsay. She didn't answer. About a minute later, though, she did call him

00:05:54.660 back. Their conversation lasted just 14 seconds. She confirmed the medication. Again, nothing

00:06:00.440 obviously alarming. Patrick later said he thought, not abnormally, that his wife just sounded as

00:06:05.540 though she were busy. Tragically, it turns out that she was. By 5.54, Patrick was picking up

00:06:11.900 the food at 3V. Then he headed home. Shortly after 6 p.m., he walked through the front door

00:06:16.960 carrying dinner. But this time, as he stepped through the front door, something seemed off to

00:06:22.160 Patrick. A normally raucous house with toddlers was alarmingly quiet. He couldn't hear his wife

00:06:27.840 in the kitchen or living room. Puzzled, he called out to her, but no answer. He went to their

00:06:33.940 bedroom on the second floor but the door was locked. When he forced it open he saw something

00:06:38.860 that left him further in a daze. There was blood on the floor and the window was open. A cold

00:06:44.380 wintry breeze filled the room. His shock would only grow. His wife was lying in the snow having

00:06:50.840 apparently fallen from the second story window. In a panic he ran outside to give her aid. In his

00:06:56.680 frantic attempts to help he noticed that her wrists and throat had been cut hence all the blood but

00:07:02.220 that the wounds were no longer bleeding. Patrick called 911 and asked his wife,

00:07:07.380 what did you do? She replied rather to the point, I tried to kill myself and jumped out of the

00:07:12.820 window. During the agonizing call, which was recorded, Patrick could be heard asking Lindsay,

00:07:19.600 where are the kids? Again, she says in the basement. In a panicked terror, Patrick ran to

00:07:26.000 the basement. He was still connected to the dispatcher when he entered the basement and

00:07:30.440 called for his children. What follows on the recording is frankly difficult to listen to.

00:07:36.180 There's little reason to reproduce it all here, but Patrick can be heard calling out,

00:07:40.900 guys, guys. Patrick first found Cora and Callan unconscious in the basement den with exercise

00:07:47.940 bands still tied around their necks. Then he found three-year-old Dawson in his office,

00:07:53.020 also strangled with an exercise band and unconscious. The dispatcher then heard the

00:07:58.280 sound of a father comprehending something no father should ever have to come to terms with.

00:08:04.160 Oh my God, she killed the kids. Oh my God. Patrick's children had been strangled with

00:08:10.520 exercise bands by their own mother. An unthinkable sentence to speak or to read.

00:08:17.260 Cora was five. Dawson, three. Callan, just eight months old. Emergency personnel rushed them to

00:08:24.640 hospitals. Cora and Dawson were pronounced dead that night. Callan initially survived, but died

00:08:30.160 several days later. First responders were able to restore his pulse, but the oxygen deprivation

00:08:35.380 had been so severe that even three days on life support couldn't save him. Lindsay, however,

00:08:41.100 had survived. The fall left her paralyzed from the waist down. Lindsay would tell one psychiatrist

00:08:47.380 afterwards that she told each of her kids that she was sending them to God, where she would soon

00:08:52.780 meet them. And so began the question that more than three years later would consume a Massachusetts

00:08:58.540 courtroom and a nation. Was Lindsay Clancy insane? Should that even matter when considering her guilt

00:09:06.240 or the death penalty? There's no serious dispute after all about what she did. Both she herself and

00:09:11.880 her defense attorney admitted that she had killed the children. The matter of dispute is whether she

00:09:16.680 was legally responsible for doing so. Lindsay had struggled with serious psychiatric problems

00:09:22.700 before the murders. She'd been hospitalized. She'd been prescribed numerous psychiatric

00:09:27.660 medications. Her defense would eventually argue that she was suffering from postpartum psychosis

00:09:32.480 and that the medical system had failed her catastrophically. But there's also evidence

00:09:37.160 that made the prosecution's case considerably more disturbing. On the day she killed her

00:09:41.860 children, Lindsay took her daughter to a doctor's appointment and behaved rather normally. She played

00:09:46.620 with her children in the snow. She sent photographs to family. She researched medication. She

00:09:51.080 telephoned to pharmacy and carried on a normal conversation. She selected a restaurant,

00:09:55.880 calculated the driving time, ordered dinner, sent her husband to retrieve it, and then while he was

00:10:00.460 gone, killed their children. It doesn't seem like the machinations of a clinically insane person,

00:10:05.620 actually. It seems cold, calculated, and premeditated. And so, the question before the

00:10:12.540 jury was not whether Lindsay Clancy was mentally ill. The question was whether her mental illness

00:10:17.540 rendered her legally incapable of understanding the wrongfulness of what she was doing.

00:10:22.260 After a six-week trial and roughly a week of deliberations, 11 jurors were prepared to find

00:10:28.260 her not guilty by reason of insanity, but one was not. The jury consisted of nine women and three

00:10:35.520 men. The holdout, a hero for his courageous stand, whatever else we discover him to be,

00:10:41.020 was a man who refused to find her not guilty by reason of insanity. Later, the older female

00:10:47.120 jurors would complain about how he refused to listen to reason as they saw it. But because

00:10:52.900 the Massachusetts legal system required unanimity and the man knew this, he would not move.

00:10:58.660 As a result, the judge would declare a mistrial. But we learn more about the state of women in

00:11:03.660 America by what happened during and after the trial, largely from the responses of women across

00:11:09.180 the country. Three female jurors publicly criticized the holdout. Sympathy campaigns

00:11:15.240 for Lindsay had already appeared. Her case became a national cause among women who saw themselves

00:11:20.620 in her. It's unclear whether it was themselves they saw in the strangling of the three children

00:11:24.980 or in the overwhelmed mother beneath it. The discourse quickly became familiar. Postpartum

00:11:30.700 depression, postpartum psychosis, inadequate maternal health care, an overwhelmed mother,

00:11:36.400 a medical establishment that had failed to listen. And women trained by feminism to see children as

00:11:41.820 a burden that interfered with a woman's life. But notice the gravitational center of the story.

00:11:47.840 Three children are dead, and a majority of women in America seem to think that the real victim was

00:11:53.520 the mother who brutally murdered them. That's right, somehow the mother who wrapped exercise

00:11:58.480 bands around her small children's necks for eight minutes each, one by one, became the object around

00:12:03.460 whom much of the public's sympathy organized itself. Lindsay Clancy is not merely an interesting

00:12:08.840 criminal case. She is an extreme and horrifying manifestation of a much older cultural sickness.

00:12:15.820 She's the epitome of what feminism has done to women in America and the world over. Because of

00:12:21.740 feminism, women have been murdering their children in the womb by millions, and now all of a sudden

00:12:26.660 we expect them to draw a line and grow a conscience about doing harm to those same children after

00:12:31.360 they're born? The nation has blood on its hands, and as the Clancy trial demonstrates, it's blood

00:12:36.940 shed not with remorse, but with excuses, without godly sorrow, with forethought, but without shame.

00:12:45.020 What can we expect for the future of such a society? Here's the hard truth. Lindsay Clancy

00:12:51.080 is nothing compared to what we'll get if we don't sober up from our century-long experiment with

00:12:56.600 applied feminism. Feminism told the woman that she was miserable and that her misery was caused

00:13:02.200 by her husband, her children, and even the limitations of her own body. And so it handed

00:13:06.800 her the pill, the cubicle, no-fault divorce, and a vote large enough to remake the entire legal

00:13:12.800 order. Now, this was, of course, supposed to fix her misery. So she got the sex, but not the babies.

00:13:18.520 She got the job, but not the home. She got the vote, but lost the very social bulwarks that

00:13:24.380 have protected her from her own suicidal political instincts. The institutional fabric of society

00:13:30.120 followed her temperament. Safety became the highest public good, offense became a kind of

00:13:35.240 violence, risk, hierarchy, and fatherly severity were recoded as pathologies. The men who would

00:13:41.820 have built and guarded the city were either trained to keep their heads down or sent looking

00:13:45.800 for work that no longer exists in our globalized and post-industrial society. Now, a civilization

00:13:52.060 can survive many sins. It cannot survive the rule of women. And the attendant removal of masculine

00:13:59.600 rule from its homes, pulpits, and businesses while congratulating itself for the achievement.

00:14:05.560 It cannot survive the reimagining of man and woman in the image of the fever dreams of

00:14:10.540 Frankfurt School theoreticians. It cannot survive the kind of foundation-level tinkering that we've

00:14:16.520 undertaken for more than a century. We will see greater horrors yet if we won't have the fortitude

00:14:23.080 to say that most terrifying of words.

00:14:26.560 No.

00:14:27.740 It's a word that women have grown unaccustomed to hearing,

00:14:31.160 but hear it they must, and say it we must.

00:14:35.240 The King's Hall Podcast exists to make self-ruled men

00:14:38.000 rule well and win the world.

00:14:50.200 Well, welcome to this episode of the King's Hall Podcast.

00:14:53.080 I'm one of your hosts, Eric Kahn, joined by Pastor Brian Solveig here at Refuge Church in Ogden, Utah.

00:15:00.200 Brian, yeah, I would say good to be here, but it's actually frankly not.

00:15:03.100 Yeah, so we were talking about this.

00:15:05.700 One of the, I would put it up there as the worst episode I ever had to write.

00:15:11.600 You helped.

00:15:12.620 And then listening to it in the cold open.

00:15:15.480 There's something about this that is just quite frankly disturbing.

00:15:18.700 Yeah.

00:15:19.320 Especially for people, look, we cultivate this in our community.

00:15:21.920 We love children.

00:15:23.080 we love uh motherhood yeah and so to go through these details um is yeah it's shocking it's

00:15:31.740 disturbing but i would also compare it um to a lot of our friends who are doing pro-life work

00:15:37.720 especially like the abolitionists where you know people will say hey that poster you have it's

00:15:42.320 really disturbing and and we'll say back to them yeah that thing you're voting for is really

00:15:48.140 disturbing you're more upset about me showing you what you're doing than about you doing it

00:15:52.740 But it's all factually true.

00:15:54.440 Yeah.

00:15:55.020 And so just for people like right off the bat, I would I would say part of the reason that we're sharing this information.

00:16:00.340 Yeah.

00:16:01.040 And even talking about it is because we do have to make eye contact with the evils that our society has been promoting under the banner of feminism.

00:16:09.720 Yeah.

00:16:10.140 For the last many decades.

00:16:11.460 This includes obviously things like sending mothers into the workforce, but it also includes very much so things like abortion.

00:16:19.320 Yep.

00:16:19.540 As you mentioned in the cold open, I think it's just poignant to me.

00:16:23.060 It stands out.

00:16:24.460 How are you going to encourage women to murder their children in the womb for 40 plus years and then expect them to grow a conscience when it's a toddler?

00:16:39.060 Like the pro-life people have been saying this forever.

00:16:41.600 What's the difference?

00:16:42.480 Yeah.

00:16:43.080 It's simply what the woman wants to do.

00:16:45.040 Yeah. Wasn't it Margaret Sanger that also said, like, a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy?

00:16:50.100 Probably.

00:16:50.640 Something like that. I think I got it slightly wrong. But even given an evolutionary materialist

00:16:56.560 worldview that much of the feminist movement comes out of, it's mixed in with spiritualism

00:17:02.120 and overt demonism as well. But it can't even justify any kind of unique importance or

00:17:08.300 special value to human life as opposed to other types of life.

00:17:12.140 Yeah. So, I mean, if you want to talk about absolutely brutal eugenics and absolutely brutal, I got in an argument with Grock the other day about this, like, but brutal genocidal behavior. The modern woman is, in my view, the most genocidal group that's ever existed.

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00:18:09.680 You think about this and you think about the worst atrocities of the 20th century,

00:18:15.020 you could think of, you know, one of the ones that gets talked about all the time,

00:18:18.380 the Armenian genocide, just it's tongue in cheek. They never talk about it,

00:18:22.620 But there's all these genocides that happen.

00:18:25.480 Even if you took the stated 6 million from Germany, let's say you took that at face value.

00:18:33.240 Well, how many babies have women in America killed?

00:18:37.020 Yeah, what, 70 million?

00:18:38.240 70 million?

00:18:39.100 That's just America.

00:18:39.980 That's just one country.

00:18:41.080 Modern abortion totals are somewhere between 1 and 2 billion from the estimates that I've looked at.

00:18:46.620 Very difficult to get true estimates.

00:18:48.180 And by the way, that's not including things like the abortifacent nature of contraceptives, of many modern so-called contraceptives, hormonal birth control. I don't think it's adequately counting chemical birth control like Plan B. But just if you take a conservative count, you are looking at not just people, but babies.

00:19:08.940 women have killed modern women have killed more babies than all of the wars and humanity combined

00:19:16.860 in terms of death toll that we know of recorded historical wars and i'm sure again both of those

00:19:23.680 numbers are really hard to get accurately but just to put it in perspective it's not about

00:19:27.460 getting it right to the 10th decimal point it's about backing up and seeing the mountain of dead

00:19:31.920 we're looking at a catastrophic catastrophic moral evil blood yeah part of it i think is

00:19:40.500 this is all coming to the surface with this case and some other things that are going on in society

00:19:45.120 um it's led to and we'll get to this it's led to sort of the repeal the 19th a lot of women

00:19:52.360 particularly in the gop are like oh no don't talk about that you're going to screw up the next

00:19:56.080 election cycle and and i guess what i would say is we have to think a lot broader and more long

00:20:02.480 term than the next election cycle our children aren't going to have a country probably because

00:20:07.920 women are going to be turned into like absolute butchers of their children that's one reason yeah

00:20:13.860 but this is also the perfect convergence of not only feminism but psychotherapy yes um the number

00:20:20.760 of cases we could do a whole episode maybe we will at some point but a whole episode on the ways

00:20:26.940 that psychiatric drugs make people insane the number we've had personal cases or at least

00:20:33.840 known of people uh pretty pretty connected at least where like these drugs like people are

00:20:40.060 doing insane things to kill themselves that you cannot even fathom that they didn't even have

00:20:45.440 those thoughts before going on the drugs yeah yeah ssris i mean just the the garbage from

00:20:51.580 freudian psychology this teaching women that their children are evil burdens that they have

00:20:56.480 to dispose of yeah these things are not i've preached funerals related to this stuff and it's

00:21:02.900 not it's hard to truly reckon with it with how like how bad our culture is right now yeah how

00:21:12.300 far gone we are and how we're not talking about outlier cases. One thing that came up in the

00:21:18.860 discourse surrounding Lindsay Clancy, and I get it because all of us for like two weeks,

00:21:23.820 it was in the national discourse and all of the right-wing political people, us included,

00:21:30.080 were talking a lot about the Lindsay Clancy trial and talking a lot about the issues that circle

00:21:35.300 how women are doing in our society, both from the jurors, the nine jurors, but also Lindsay

00:21:40.740 clancy herself and then the abortion conversation and the women supporting her all those like

00:21:44.880 there's multiple camps that are demonstrating different features of how bad women are doing

00:21:49.620 in our society and so some right-wing and christian women were and i get it they were

00:21:54.040 they were like hey let's make sure that we we recognize that this is not all women this is a

00:21:57.940 fringe lunatic crazy women i'm like hey hold on hold on though because depending on how you count

00:22:04.280 it i mean it's around 30 million women in america have had abortions living women today well i was

00:22:11.480 responding to them with this statistic uh it depends on which data you use but between 70 and

00:22:17.200 80 percent of women in america believe that abortion should be acceptable in almost all cases

00:22:22.620 yes and almost you're telling me that 70 to 80 percent of women yeah are i mean that's evil

00:22:30.720 Absolutely evil.

00:22:31.940 And I know the number that's thrown around.

00:22:34.220 I've even cited it.

00:22:35.060 It's like one in four women today have had an abortion.

00:22:37.640 It's probably more like one in five to seven

00:22:40.180 because some women have had many,

00:22:42.700 have had multiple and even some women have had many.

00:22:45.120 But you're talking about,

00:22:46.960 even if it was, let's take like the best case scenario.

00:22:49.400 It's one in seven.

00:22:51.440 You're telling me that one in seven women alive today,

00:22:54.700 20 to 40 million women who are just alive today in the US

00:22:58.000 have quite literally willfully killed their own child.

00:23:05.100 They're murderers.

00:23:06.180 They're first-degree murderers.

00:23:08.560 And when you reckon with things like that,

00:23:11.840 with facts like that,

00:23:13.320 it becomes difficult to see

00:23:15.220 how we are not more dysfunctional as a society.

00:23:17.840 And all of a sudden,

00:23:18.700 you start looking at many of the problems

00:23:20.100 plaguing America today,

00:23:21.080 and you say, wow,

00:23:21.660 that's unsurprising that we would have these issues.

00:23:25.200 Yeah.

00:23:25.340 one of the things that is interesting to me is the mass psychosis element so we talk about this

00:23:32.600 in the longhouse book yeah um which having written the book with you you know this is all happening

00:23:38.900 and i'm just like pleading with the lord actually in prayer that people would read this book and be

00:23:43.100 changed yeah and a lot more people would think about how how devastating feminism is for our

00:23:47.980 society yeah but one of the things we talk about it goes back to a book called the anxious generation

00:23:54.580 This is by Jonathan Haidt. And the research is pretty clear on this, that social media apps like Instagram, TikTok are particularly detrimental to women.

00:24:04.100 Yeah. And they said that on these apps, like designer illnesses is what he calls them, which were not common and didn't even really exist.

00:24:13.580 all of a sudden through the mass psychosis of social media now it's like everybody has it

00:24:19.400 and it is particular to women that in their design in their nature they are prone to be

00:24:26.880 just propagandized in this way yeah like humankind in general are memetic yes and there's lots of

00:24:33.560 good work on this you know memetic meaning we're imitators we imitate we learn we're formed by

00:24:38.540 imitation this is why it's so powerful that you're not just in taking true propositions but

00:24:44.400 that you're surrounding yourself by godly and virtuous and righteous people but women even

00:24:49.080 more than men are prone or susceptible to mimetic contagion social contagions and mental contagions

00:24:58.100 where they will and again height points this out and there's lots of research on this

00:25:02.940 that women are particularly prone to become almost infected the way that like the common cold passes

00:25:10.360 around by things like you know pedestrian things like depression but also these designer illnesses

00:25:16.780 like oh i have this mental psychiatric diagnosis now i have an anxiety disorder and when women

00:25:23.240 get together and it becomes like an accessory for them including on social media they don't

00:25:28.160 have to be physically present with one another it becomes um a transmissible event it's it's

00:25:33.800 like it's strange to think about but it actually like psychiatric conditions appear to be

00:25:39.980 transmissible especially amongst women yeah it's interesting i think height talks about

00:25:44.760 like if a woman has a mental illness so-called there's like i don't know an astronomical

00:25:51.020 rate at which her friends will also get the same thing or they will become depressed it is kind of

00:25:58.080 funny because with men they're like if you're depressed the likelihood that your friends become

00:26:02.500 depressed is almost zero men are just like well sucks men are like dude suck it up i'm having a

00:26:08.220 great time hand me another beer and watch this drive it's like your friend is still joking your

00:26:15.900 friend's like man are you get home from golfing with your with the boys or like an old friend

00:26:20.040 and your wife's like man how's bill doing like how's he handling the divorce like is he seeing

00:26:24.100 anybody and and you're like i don't know she's like didn't you golf with him for four hours

00:26:28.780 well yeah but we didn't talk about that and why would that have come up they're like

00:26:34.660 how are men the way that they are it's like it's mutual men and women both look at each other

00:26:41.660 sometimes they go you're like a different species from from me yeah so brian one of the questions i

00:26:47.820 think this brings up obviously you look at this the lindsey clancy situation you see tiktok you

00:26:53.000 see the women losing it and again the way that uh mental illness spreads like a virus

00:26:58.960 is highly contagious among women so then the question is what do you actually do about this

00:27:04.300 so if you're a father you're thinking about your daughters you're thinking about your wife

00:27:08.220 um you know obviously when she turns 13 through being a mother all that you want to give her a

00:27:16.760 smartphone yeah snapchat tiktok instagram absolutely and you want to let them condition

00:27:23.020 your wife to believe she has at least 42 mental illnesses and might be a boy and and well so here's

00:27:29.340 the other thing abigail schreier and um it was in irreversible damage she she was saying she was

00:27:35.920 like no it's like tiktok and snapchat were like the reason girls in particular were being brainwashed

00:27:41.620 into like cutting their boobs off yeah trans ideology yeah it was a social contagion and

00:27:47.660 women so before that it was it's interesting again we've been talking about men and women

00:27:53.020 being different men typically before the social media contagion stuff before it became cool

00:28:00.500 like peak woke men would generally get into that kind of tranny transvestite stuff because of

00:28:06.640 fetish because of sexual fetishes and it was a very small percentage of the strangest people

00:28:14.260 men a lot of them sexually abused like horrible stuff and then they would respond with hyper

00:28:20.700 sexuality like all these weird it was all about like sex for the men and fetish but that's not

00:28:29.480 what it is for as it exploded especially among young women yeah it was a social contagion that

00:28:35.820 is very much relate like the trans thing is just one little tentacle on the big monster of female

00:28:45.540 driven social media contagion yeah i mean you saw probably on social media like a woman there

00:28:52.720 was a woman in the midwest after the clancy thing was taking off in the media so bear in mind like

00:28:58.780 we're 2026 the case happened in 2023 because our judicial system works very rapidly it's very

00:29:05.480 quick well so as as this is going on now in 2026 there's like a mom who like hung her two-year-old

00:29:15.460 in solidarity with lindsey yeah and again it points to this thing that women tend to transmit

00:29:23.600 crazy to one another yes again so my my thought process on this is like look we have got to if

00:29:30.460 it's if it's a contagion look we we we lock every woman in our home two weeks just two weeks to stop

00:29:37.000 it's like there there is a real thing though here um you could be the fauci of women being fixed

00:29:46.380 the fauci of feminism let's go but good but like in a good way but it's good it's cool when we do

00:29:52.260 it it's cool but i i do seriously think like here is the way a just and good society would work

00:29:59.140 a woman maybe she happens to see something in the news tv social media you know whatever and

00:30:06.520 her husband comes home and she says i saw this thing and i did i had to call terry and i just

00:30:11.080 and he goes listen to me i need you to stop right now give me your smartphone yeah like you can't do

00:30:17.780 this like you're not allowed to believe this this is crazy talk and then and then like you know she

00:30:23.700 should be a godly woman too and she should say yeah you're right this is this is really getting

00:30:28.160 me riled up. It's not helping. I know we, we have this conversation all the time with our wives.

00:30:32.860 My wife got off of X and Instagram for the sole reason. She was like, it just makes you

00:30:39.720 anxious and frustrated. And she's like, really, my thing is like, I need to take care of the kids,

00:30:45.700 you the home. And it is actually hilarious because we, we've talked about this. I send,

00:30:52.040 if i send a video at all to my wife it's usually like a little dachshund like jumping into water

00:30:58.220 and then she receives it and she giggles or it's like a goat doing something funny yeah and she

00:31:03.560 giggles and then the boys and i are like hey did you see that thing about lindsey clancy and my

00:31:09.160 wife's like i don't want to hear it yeah i don't need to know yeah and then she just does her job

00:31:14.960 yeah women either shouldn't be on social media or any social media they have should be kind of

00:31:20.880 a walled garden situation where some competent man is curating and blocking and directing as

00:31:28.300 protection, taking a look like what's going on. I have access to my wife's social media accounts

00:31:34.120 and I have blocked. This is not an exaggeration. Thousands of accounts, thousands of them.

00:31:40.840 She generally has very little idea of what is going on in the real social media because I've

00:31:46.680 created a walled garden of cute goat videos and then for her like some various health things that

00:31:55.520 she likes to research and what's into and hilarious is and i know this i can tell from

00:32:01.100 the outside too though because like the lindsey clancy hysteria is going on and lexi will post

00:32:07.340 and it will be like does anybody have a really yummy cookie recipe yes and here's the other

00:32:12.720 thing. She's oblivious. Because there are levels to this. Oh yeah. I have notifications turned on

00:32:18.240 for when she posts. And if, if I see that notification, I immediately look and I say,

00:32:24.040 what did my wife post today? And I do that for two reasons. One, because sometimes she is voice

00:32:30.240 to texting things. And I have also seen this in action. My wife is really smart. My wife is not

00:32:37.280 dumb. She's very smart. She's highly competent. She's an English major, but she's like wrestling

00:32:44.420 Alfred. And then she'd be like, Oh, I have a thought. I'm going to post a thing or a, you

00:32:50.060 know, a cookie recipe question or whatever, or something. And I'll look at it and it'll be like

00:32:54.300 accidental some heresy or like a typo that wildly changes the meaning of what she meant. So I'll

00:33:02.440 just go out to say delete because at first I didn't have notifications put on. And then,

00:33:07.960 you know, even sometimes it would escape the wild garden and all these hags would start dunking on

00:33:11.980 her and calling her names and stuff. So I do that too. And the thing is, it's pretty, we hold it

00:33:17.660 really loosely. Like Lexi could have no social media tomorrow and it wouldn't, it'd be fine.

00:33:22.260 Like we evaluate it. She, she uses it for those things and it's fine. And she's able to a not

00:33:30.260 argue with men online. Like there are certain rules and they're not rules that I have to like

00:33:35.880 enforce on Lexi with an iron fist because she is a wise and godly woman. Hence she has social media

00:33:42.200 at all. But it's like, there are rules that if my, I could see that my wife was getting into

00:33:47.940 certain behaviors, I would immediately just say no more social media. And I'm her husband. I'm her

00:33:54.440 head like if she was arguing with men if you came home and she had a tortoiseshell back and she was

00:34:00.840 doing steroids because she was watching lady crossfit videos she's getting like body dysmorphia

00:34:06.060 no that's what we do oh we get body dysmorphia and go on trend that's for the bros yes that's

00:34:13.700 for the boys it's not for the girls trend is for kitties we're talking anivar that's what we're

00:34:19.580 let's go there's other things uh i'm obviously not on it but but just really quick like think

00:34:24.360 about i think about there's certain accounts and that typify certain behaviors of women online

00:34:30.240 and i just think archetypally like if my wife became a farming in jesus type account like if

00:34:35.380 she started whatever that lizzie account lizzie she's constantly arguing with men picking fights

00:34:40.200 being catty just being frankly insufferable and the furthest thing that you could think from

00:34:45.340 first peter three a gentle and quiet spirit which in the sight of lord is very precious to be like

00:34:49.820 So that's out. If she started doing that and she doesn't, then she'd have no social media. If she started, you know, like I'm checking in and she's like, man, this Lindsey Clancy case is really making me anxious and all this. Like, okay, that's deleted from the phone.

00:35:05.180 like the the thing that people miss in modernism that we take for granted we have normalcy bias

00:35:11.460 we it in a certain direction we consider normal what is actually insane we consider normal women

00:35:19.900 having unsupervised access to one another all the time and we assume that not normal that they're

00:35:28.020 just like men and that that's good for them right we consider normal women like all these things

00:35:33.200 women having political rule we consider normal women living unattached from a male like a husband

00:35:38.900 like a father than a husband for lengthy periods of time we consider normal you could fill in the

00:35:44.000 blank with all of these modern feminist outworkings of the original feminist vision and what they've

00:35:49.700 done is they've made women anxious psychotic depressed miserable and genocidally evil yeah

00:35:57.920 and i and we just go oh that's normal so if anybody's like people are gonna think hear me

00:36:02.680 talking about as my wife's head monitoring her social media and they're like brian is such a

00:36:08.560 tyrant i'm gonna go you have normalcy bias for insane world you're living in an insane asylum

00:36:14.620 and you think it's the normal world and i'm saying no we don't live in the insane asylum

00:36:20.080 we do what people did for thousands of years before today yeah that's right well and you had

00:36:25.480 a good post recently on social media talking about this with the 19th amendment right where

00:36:30.180 you were saying actually what's historically crazy is giving women the right to vote you're

00:36:35.680 saying we're crazy for bringing it up but you're actually crazy for believing it historically

00:36:39.440 speaking yes um one of the questions i have so you're talking about archetypes um maybe one i'll

00:36:44.720 throw out there um and i mean this in love to people who are like on our team but there are

00:36:51.180 lots of people for whom we we should all be willing to say like hey i'm not throwing a shot

00:36:56.120 but I am asking a question.

00:36:57.320 We need to work through this.

00:36:58.780 I've seen it with the abolitionist movement where you take a young lady and

00:37:04.000 you put her on the sidewalk of a college campus and she's the one debating

00:37:08.560 the vile leftists who are screaming at her.

00:37:11.680 Yeah.

00:37:12.220 You know,

00:37:12.540 so like what I'm getting at is as we're thinking through social media and

00:37:16.540 protecting our women,

00:37:17.400 I'm just telling you based on the principles that we've talked about in this

00:37:21.120 show and elsewhere,

00:37:21.680 I would not put a woman in that position.

00:37:24.060 You're putting her on the front lines.

00:37:26.120 Um, she's not a warrior in that way. She's not supposed to handle that load. So, and I say this,

00:37:33.120 I've met a lot of these ladies. They're super sweet. They're wonderful people. A lot of them

00:37:37.160 are actually asking the questions like, should I even be doing this? Like, yes. Courageous young

00:37:41.360 women. They're godly, all that. So in my point in sharing that one is to say like, okay, so

00:37:46.320 there's lots of space as friends and brothers in the Christian movement where we're like,

00:37:51.120 we're not attacking feminists we're also saying to our ladies hey is that's not good yeah you know

00:37:57.800 we love you we're not treating our women like children especially our wives i mean if she's a

00:38:02.140 if it's your daughter obviously she is a child but yeah not your wife but you are having

00:38:06.300 conversations you're saying honey i'm still gonna lead this this is not good yeah i think in our

00:38:11.360 circles too most of the women have caught on we're like most of the women in our church will be like

00:38:16.220 you know what i heard you guys talking about you know x being the coliseum and i got to thinking

00:38:21.800 about the principles and i'm just not going to go there and like throw throw blows yeah that's

00:38:27.740 just not a place for me to do that think about think about if there was a way in the ancient

00:38:33.020 world for women to have a first just a bird's eye like cinematic view of the men at war and they

00:38:41.320 were able to watch everything that happened on the battlefield what would that do to the psyche of

00:38:46.540 women it would undo them yeah they would be anxious they would also if they saw their men

00:38:53.860 in battle doing what needed to be done some of them would respond and be like you're unkind

00:38:59.920 and and no and like basically dishonor and disrespect their own men because they're out

00:39:05.860 there and we're just absolutely slaughtering people yeah you know what i mean and so to a

00:39:10.400 lesser extent this is like uh verbal rhetoric rhetoric war and verbal war and we're out like

00:39:17.420 culture war is different from literal war but it can do the same thing where a lot of it ought not

00:39:24.600 to be done under the gaze of women because the gaze of women alone changes the dynamic of the

00:39:30.700 whole uh battlefield yeah and a lot of those environments like engaging with people at a

00:39:35.780 college campus about you know they want to murder their children so they have like a blood lust in

00:39:40.640 their eye anyway yeah um and then you're the person like debating with them well what was

00:39:45.520 the cost for charlie kirk of doing that like you it we say it's verbal but oh yeah these people

00:39:52.060 want to harm you i mean i i posted about immigration the other day on facebook and it was like

00:39:57.300 the number of comments so my post got banned it got blocked taken down whatever but what's funny

00:40:03.200 is like none of the comments did and the comments were like you blankety blank i'm gonna you know

00:40:09.640 do you know do bodily harm or something like it was so vile and facebook's like no that's fine

00:40:14.940 i've reported dozens of comments they never get even in the charlie kirk thing wishing for my

00:40:20.260 death or threatening me vaguely and it was always like we've investigated your report and it's cool

00:40:25.900 with us we're good with it i'm always like okay you're right that social media culture war political

00:40:32.180 battle is always proxy for actual war because actual war is the thing that waits at the end

00:40:38.560 of the line if you can't reach peaceful resolution through political means yeah that's why one of the

00:40:44.460 reasons historically women were not uh participants in the political battle to the extent that they

00:40:50.480 are today it is because the people that at the end of the line when the political process failed

00:40:56.500 had to take up arms were men and so the men were saying we can't have this whole process governed by

00:41:03.100 the women who are combatants at every stage until that one and then they jump off and say good luck

00:41:07.880 men go go save us from all of the third world immigrants that we have flooded the country with

00:41:13.460 through the political process well that's that's part of the insanity too like jay stone talks

00:41:17.840 about this we talk about it in the book um i think chapter three uh in the longhouse book but it is

00:41:24.760 really interesting it said that um because women are voting now there's a great they have a greater

00:41:29.380 aversion to war but a greater to desire to get into war when they see atrocities on tv

00:41:36.560 now make that make sense they're like we shouldn't go to war it's horrible

00:41:41.660 look at the the puppies in the sarah mclaughlin video kill everyone

00:41:46.280 and then the men have to go fight in another war the men are like no i'm tired i'm tired

00:41:53.980 boss so so when we're thinking about lindsey clancy case social contagion and the particular

00:42:00.280 transmissibility of social contagions among women yeah which by the way what was the percentage

00:42:05.760 there was a statistic that you had brought up it was oh from jonathan height yeah okay so the

00:42:10.820 statistic was yeah i did look this up if a woman is depressed or has mental illness there is a 142

00:42:17.460 chance that her her friends were likely yeah but for men it's completely they said for men

00:42:23.320 the the statistic is so low it's less than basically it's zero it's far less it's very

00:42:29.960 unlike it's basically non-existent again like if you're if your bro is depressed you're like man

00:42:34.440 that sucks i'm having a great day but women because they are made to nurture and come alongside and

00:42:40.460 help the children and you know they're they're they are particularly prone to this sort of thing

00:42:45.000 so when we're thinking about that they're also highly memetic like i know we talked about that

00:42:49.860 but like the way that they're they're made to be impressionable because they're made to be led

00:42:56.660 yes against like this great foil of godly masculinity it's why when you have a good

00:43:02.180 husband and a good head and a woman who's had a good father and all of these cultural things

00:43:08.700 align these practices that transmit basically healthy culture from generation to generation

00:43:13.240 a woman is very malleable to a godly husband's leadership normatively so they've hijacked that

00:43:20.420 mechanism in order to basically transmit insane leftist liberalism to her so that they can conquer

00:43:27.440 the west and what we need to do is throw off the normalcy bias issue and stop acting like

00:43:34.660 the policies and the culture of the 20th century in particular and more broadly feminism even its

00:43:42.040 early roots all the way back to the 18th century and before, and say, that's actually not normal.

00:43:48.180 What we need to recover is a true normal, back to our conference theme this last year,

00:43:53.020 the war for normal, and begin to assume the center and say, no, that's not normal. What's

00:43:59.960 normal is my wife being protected from this. What's normal are my daughters being protected

00:44:06.100 from this so like the idea of my daughters having smartphones is insane it's not going to happen

00:44:13.740 absolutely not like the idea of my sons even having smart like otherwise known as porn devices

00:44:19.580 you know until they are ready and basically coming up into manhood and marriage and there

00:44:28.100 becomes a point where a young man as a tool with his business and job and work and vocation can

00:44:32.840 begin to earn the responsibility and be handed and brought up the goal isn't for a christian men

00:44:37.820 to never be able to interact with technology or for a woman never to be able to use a phone

00:44:42.700 safely but we need to have we need to recover these societal restraints that were what they

00:44:49.360 they were not straight jackets put on women to control them and keep them from happiness

00:44:53.920 they were bulwarks and fences to protect her from wolves and dangers including the danger

00:45:00.960 of all of the women getting together and working themselves into mass psychosis and then literally

00:45:07.120 destroying civilization yeah and that is not an overstatement women if you let them get together

00:45:15.180 in certain types of groups and arrangements before long they will work themselves into

00:45:19.860 mass psychosis and literally destroy civilization we should not do that we should not let them do

00:45:29.520 that that seems like a bad thing that seems like a normal position like i'm just saying maybe we

00:45:34.540 should consider not letting women destroy civilization i mean honestly it sounds

00:45:38.140 misogynistic and if we do it will be because men were too cowardly to sit to look a woman in the

00:45:42.620 eye and say the the most scary word we said it in the cold open the most scary word in all of

00:45:47.420 existence for men apparently to say to women today which is just no we're not doing that like

00:45:52.220 the the absolute the things that men will do today to avoid telling a woman no are insane

00:45:59.840 have you ever seen the uh there's a few examples of this number one obviously jd vance you know i

00:46:05.440 don't really care margaret you know i don't want these people in my country and i think most

00:46:09.480 americans agree with me but i think it's a jared taylor video where the lady is like she it's like

00:46:14.340 she's like a latino or something and she's like lecturing him yeah about like how white people

00:46:20.640 are so horrible yeah and he's like i don't really care about your opinion i didn't ask for it my

00:46:28.400 people built this country you your people came here because we built something better than what

00:46:33.440 you built yes like and she's like i think we're done with this conversation and he just keeps

00:46:37.700 talking it's but like you have to have this brian i think i can say this okay because i am a man of

00:46:46.260 the people okay i'm a man of the people yeah we know i'm a man of the zoomer i'm i'm i understand

00:46:52.420 eric just got on instagram last week okay okay okay for the record you gotta let a guy have some

00:46:59.560 aura okay hey farm it we got some aura farming to do he doesn't know in this nation yeah no i do

00:47:05.000 because you know why i know because my 19 year old son explained it to me this morning yeah so i feel

00:47:11.660 like you're ready to farm aura you gotta have some aura hey i'm sitting back i'm ready let's have

00:47:17.220 aura no i think this is part of it look it's it's the gravitas of a man yeah where you have to be

00:47:23.420 able to say no i'm not going to be ruled by hysterical women and this is what i hope people

00:47:28.200 see the lindsey clancy situation you should not feel bad for this woman you should feel bad for

00:47:35.260 her children yeah and her husband and her husband the things that she did are evil stop trying to

00:47:42.040 obviously the SSRIs are bad the whole psychology industry today is evil horrible awful I'm not

00:47:52.100 saying those things aren't true yeah but at the end of the day that woman is responsible for her

00:47:56.260 sin yes and it is sinful it is egregious she strangled three kids her own kids yeah and

00:48:02.580 apparently told a psychiatrist it's okay honey i'm sending you to god well lindsey we need as

00:48:10.040 a society to send you to god for judgment yep and you will have the time between your little

00:48:15.380 wheelchair ramp and the gallows yeah and whoever has to push you up there yeah that's the time you

00:48:20.820 have to repent hopefully receive christ but you're going to judgment no absolutely the insanity thing

00:48:26.860 is what i want to ask you about um you've heard a lot of this people are like well but like should

00:48:32.480 we actually as a system find people not guilty by reason of insanity my immediate answer is if

00:48:39.120 if there's a crazy homeless person who tries to kill someone or does kill someone put them to

00:48:45.120 death yes it's like saying i have a maladjusted pit bull that kills people therefore it's innocent

00:48:50.160 no no it's not it killed somebody it's it when the principle for capital punishment concerning

00:48:57.880 murders laid down all the way back in Genesis with Noah. If by man, man's blood is shed, then

00:49:03.960 you shed his blood. It's Lex Talionis. It's eye for eye, tooth for tooth, life for life. And yes,

00:49:10.980 there are circumstances in scripture where we can establish legal principles that do introduce

00:49:17.660 complexity into things like capital punishment and murder versus manslaughter. This is why

00:49:24.340 historically in the in the western legal tradition you have a distinction between i won't use the

00:49:29.560 latin words but bad act and bad mind um where you can have a bad act that did not include a bad mind

00:49:36.500 where that that act is not actually murder it's something else for example in the scriptures

00:49:43.600 if you're chopping wood and the axe head flies off of your axe handle and hits somebody on the head

00:49:49.320 and they die, there is a situation carved out legally where that person, it's manslaughter.

00:49:55.600 And then there are even degrees of that. Was it negligent? Did you know the axe head flew off?

00:50:00.400 It flew off 10 times before that. And you were such an idiot that you started swinging it around

00:50:04.120 in front of people. That's actually then introduces a certain level of culpability,

00:50:07.740 but you didn't have bad mind. You didn't have criminal intent. You weren't thinking like,

00:50:11.020 I hate this guy and I want to kill him. Okay. So that is a real distinction. Maybe the axe

00:50:15.240 manufacturer knew that that was a problem with that axe and the consumer didn't and so maybe

00:50:22.460 there was actually a crime that was committed a negligent sort of crime committed by the company

00:50:27.180 so certainly we can establish biblically and in the western tradition nuance surrounding murder

00:50:33.720 from my understanding i'm not a historian i'm just a guy here talking but from my understanding

00:50:40.520 when you look at particularly the Anglo legal tradition,

00:50:43.980 one of the glories of the Anglo Christian legal tradition

00:50:48.020 was that we killed a lot of people.

00:50:50.900 We were quite free with the death penalty.

00:50:53.960 We would, okay, certain types of theft,

00:50:57.400 quite a few crimes resulted in you hanging until dead.

00:51:02.440 And the result of that was a high trust society over time

00:51:06.800 because we had weeded out our most criminal populations

00:51:10.740 and that includes everything from like

00:51:12.380 the criminal populations related to culture,

00:51:14.500 but also that even had measurable genetic effects

00:51:17.340 on populations of Anglos,

00:51:19.000 where we have less expression of certain genes

00:51:21.340 that even control for things like self-control

00:51:23.340 and criminality.

00:51:24.700 Go to prison populations

00:51:26.040 and you will find a lower representation per capita

00:51:30.340 of people descended from these peoples,

00:51:33.640 partly because of this.

00:51:35.840 Okay. So the insanity defense, one of the things that it came in to deal with was we killed a lot of people really quickly. And so then I believe that we developed traditions where if a person seemed to be out of their mind or a complete lunatic, they started to carve out things where like that person, and this was especially, it was especially open to wealthier political elites where they could say, I have a family member.

00:52:04.360 maybe he committed some heinous crime but he was kind of out of his mind and so we'll take care of

00:52:09.260 him we'll lock him up and and keep him in the house or the manor even like the kennedys have

00:52:14.540 a situation like this a lot of elite families yeah this is a this is a ancient vaunted anglo

00:52:20.180 tradition but it's like lock lock up the crazy yeah lock up the crazy the basement and feed

00:52:24.540 him fish heads under the door eventually this evolved into the lunatic asylum and we formalized

00:52:31.380 and institutionalized it, and it began to get legal precedent and things like that.

00:52:35.380 However, if you go all the way back to the first principle, my contention would be that there

00:52:41.460 should be no insanity defense for murder. There should be no insanity defense, even if truly

00:52:47.560 you are out of your mind. And I mean, like you had schizophrenia or something to that effect,

00:52:54.400 and you go murder somebody, I'm sorry, you should still be put to death as a murderer.

00:53:01.380 And it is one of those things where the mercy of the wicked ends up being a cruelty.

00:53:08.640 Yeah.

00:53:09.180 Because what they're thinking of is, again, this is so female coded.

00:53:13.440 Oh, it's so, we're going to, this person, they had a mental illness and they were, it's just not their fault.

00:53:19.100 And I'm like, they killed a kid.

00:53:21.340 They killed, a man killed his wife.

00:53:23.620 A woman stabbed her cousin.

00:53:25.400 Like the person is dead, right?

00:53:28.540 And you're telling me that your first instinct is to go, I feel so bad for the person who gutted

00:53:33.920 them like a fish. I just feel so bad for that woman who strangled, slowly strangled her children.

00:53:39.760 And it's like the mercy of the wicked is cruelty and it's cruelty to everybody. It's cruelty to

00:53:46.140 the victims because they don't get justice. It's cruelty to all the people that love the victim

00:53:49.980 because they don't get justice. It's cruelty to society because you either A, end up re-releasing

00:53:56.280 these people back in a society. And by the way, they often reoffend, or you have to carry the

00:54:01.680 burden of institutionalizing them, which by the way, is cruelty to them. It's better to send them

00:54:06.460 to God and say, here's your time to repent. And then, because in the scriptures, even a beast

00:54:11.660 that killed a man was put to death, even a beast. So the fact that there can be broader culpability,

00:54:21.260 like just because Lindsay Clancy, in my view, whether psychotic or not, and I would actually

00:54:25.960 dispute that she was based on the evidence but even if she was and even if the drug companies

00:54:31.420 had something to do with it it doesn't relieve her of her criminal culpability it actually just

00:54:37.380 expands it to other people too more than one person can be the bad guy in any given story

00:54:43.180 yeah and i mean i agree like to your point like the ssris they're bad but lots of people are on

00:54:49.920 ssris and have bads you know bad side effects and all those things who also don't strangle

00:54:55.140 their children to death yeah yeah and also what you mentioned kind of in the story as you look at

00:55:00.800 the facts it is kind of weird how like calculated and like not crazy a lot of the behavior looks

00:55:06.220 yeah uh but you have to remember she's a labor and delivery nurse or was yeah and so she knows

00:55:12.360 how this like it's it's the woman who knows all the catchphrases to say oh yeah uh to get out of

00:55:17.580 things the weird thing to me was like she comes out of uh her surgery or coma or whatever you know

00:55:24.360 sort of sort of like who cares uh but the first thing she asked for is like do i do i have a lawyer

00:55:30.680 and you're like uh that's kind of weird she knew what the whole idea even of this terrible law

00:55:37.200 which by the way the law in that state absolutely terrible nonsensical that the prosecution has to

00:55:43.420 prove a negative yeah they have to prove that she wasn't insane which it's like how could i prove

00:55:52.320 possibly that someone didn't for a moment lapse into a fugue state it becomes the ultimate legal

00:55:58.680 defense which is why it's used so frequently and so we i think a lot of people agree with this even

00:56:04.760 i even think a lot of libs agree with this that we need to reform our insanity laws oh yeah because

00:56:10.580 there are some states where this applies some where it doesn't this having to prove a negative

00:56:15.840 as the prosecution is obviously stupid you know one of the insanity laws i think that we have to

00:56:21.200 reverse is the 19th amendment um i wow that's a great point because it's making us insane

00:56:26.840 one question i do want to ask you this has also come up uh you have the guy uh the one juror so

00:56:33.320 i think you have 12 jurors three men three men well one man uh you know biologically three men

00:56:41.280 but one man um and then we've seen the videos of all the ladies and i'm sorry are they not the hr

00:56:48.720 karen prototype i mean they are the prototype of the den mother longhouse lady who is like

00:56:56.760 absolutely old hags insufferable yes these massachusetts women who are just yeah what do

00:57:04.640 you do with them what's hilarious is okay i would be slow to receive this information because we've

00:57:11.820 already received false information first there was a photo of a white guy with a beard who looked

00:57:16.580 like a you know like iranian almost yeah he was floating around and then they were like no it's a

00:57:21.800 black dude and no and then and then people you know people didn't know what to do because they

00:57:26.700 were like well all the liberals all the liberals were like well what was the woman on the view or

00:57:31.280 whatever she's like i just have to sit with that for a minute i don't know and i laughed for probably

00:57:35.820 five minutes yeah so i don't actually know okay like be the way that she walked him on that

00:57:41.880 interview it was like was there were there any people of color were there any men of color so

00:57:47.480 there were three men one of them was the holdout was the man who was the holdout a person of color

00:57:52.880 and then because the the karen yeah did not want to say it like the den mother avatar or feminism

00:57:58.980 woman she didn't want to say it so she had to be like have it hold out and she's like yes because

00:58:06.300 she knew it was robert downey jr from tropic thunder it was not but this is crazy right because

00:58:13.520 you've got a black guy this presumably yeah person of color brian we need to be sensitive

00:58:20.160 i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm the most sensitive one here okay whoa i know but it is crazy because

00:58:26.760 then i've seen reports of like well this this person had to dismiss domestic violence and then

00:58:32.260 had a dv so now what's funny is all the liberal women are like they hate this guy even more

00:58:38.380 he like i like what wesley todd said about it from nxr he was like there's no winners in this guys

00:58:45.820 nobody wins nobody wins we we get the jury's insane the women are insane the two men that

00:58:51.900 voted to acquit or were insane and then the holdout turned out to be a black guy who's probably like

00:58:58.320 a bum who's late on his who like won't pay his rent and maybe beat up some relatives he's like

00:59:04.440 there are no winner and in that in that case and legitimately like this is now an a a factor

00:59:10.040 is that because this is data guys i didn't make it up i don't make the data i just point at we

00:59:16.240 just report the data interesting we report the fact when you when you look at the way that blacks

00:59:21.180 on juries function they tend to acquit their co-ethnics and convict whites so whatever the

00:59:29.480 bad outcome is like white people are one of the only racial demographics that that are basically

00:59:35.660 they try to be kind of neutral do you know what we need but so this black guy he might have actually

00:59:41.100 voted to acquit lindsey clancy just because the white people on the jury wanted or voted to

00:59:49.100 convict her because he was like we got to get whitey that's we don't know so we just know every

00:59:53.380 time every time that you say something about demographics we just need like the clip from

01:00:01.680 the south park thing with the black cameraman where he's like we should pull that out just put

01:00:09.880 that you know jamie can you put that in there um it's going to be a banger uh so just kind of

01:00:14.860 clues you into what's about to happen so so brian one of the things that's interesting

01:00:17.780 um you look at this case uh we've talked a lot about the longhouse book by the way this episode

01:00:24.700 brought to you by the longhouse yeah we were like we just need to do an episode of let's just do it

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01:00:32.620 copies 10 off the longhousebook.com if you don't you're dead to me okay keep going yes um me too

01:00:39.140 obviously yeah but one of the things is it is so hard in our milieu culturally people hear us

01:00:47.700 talking about the 19th amendment they hear us talking about how evil feminism is and there's

01:00:53.300 just epics and waves that the tide comes in the tide goes out in terms of cultural conversation

01:00:58.540 and people will say you guys are being you know chicken little you're being alarmist of course

01:01:03.980 feminism is not that bad an event like this happens and you go even the normal person goes

01:01:09.780 hmm i don't know about feminism huh so that conversation is now happening in a national

01:01:17.020 level and one of the offshoots of that is that the bleach blonde news anchors at fox news are

01:01:23.940 really alarmed because they're saying oh my gosh we can't talk about repealing the 19th amendment

01:01:30.520 this is going to upset the next election cycle now now here's my firm of mine talk me out of it

01:01:35.140 okay let's talk about election cycles let's talk them out of it i've been through a few

01:01:39.920 in my 41 years okay the last couple make america great again i was told america was going to be

01:01:47.720 great again okay um i see jeets in the streets in texas by the tens of thousands yeah yeah i see a

01:01:59.600 new war in Iran. I see feminism being actually promoted. I see the POTUS talking about how good

01:02:06.700 it is that women were the ones who took over the economy in the last four years. And I look at all

01:02:13.680 this and I say, here's my thought. You got to stop worrying about the next three months election

01:02:19.400 cycle. The GOP is not going to do what you want it to do anyway. Now, I'm not saying don't vote

01:02:25.220 by all means go out and vote for the best possible candidate but that takes two seconds

01:02:30.780 what i am saying is you need to start thinking hey i don't care if opposing feminism

01:02:38.180 screws the gop over in the next election cycle i literally don't care because your nation is

01:02:45.260 under judgment from the living god and what you actually need to do what you actually need to do

01:02:51.640 is think about what is the nation that my great grandchildren are going to inherit there's got to

01:02:57.680 be a longer term strategy than being like oh don't talk about the 19th amendment that'll upset women

01:03:02.520 well here's a simple solution don't let them vote and then who cares oh they're upset that's cute

01:03:09.820 bake some cookies here's here's my here's my nuanced view eric that no that was the nuanced

01:03:17.540 view. I don't want to talk you out of your, your nuanced view. That's not the point of this

01:03:22.320 because I actually think we're getting at the same thing. You, we can walk and chew gum at the same

01:03:27.240 time. Like we can say that it is actually important that we do what we can to prevent

01:03:34.860 insane leftists from gaining political control, especially when you look at what they could

01:03:40.220 potentially do if we become so blackpilled on the right. Yes. That we allow sweeping

01:03:46.960 electoral wins in the House and the Senate and the presidency. And let's say they get all three

01:03:53.100 branches of government and then they say, you know what, there's nothing that would prevent

01:03:56.700 us from packing the Supreme Court. How about five new 30, 35 year old black female Supreme Court

01:04:03.120 justices? Katani, Brown, Jackson. Yeah. How about we get five more Katanjis and probably even more

01:04:09.520 retarded but okay so so there's one okay what is that going to do for the next 40 years and then

01:04:15.580 let's say that they you know what let's end the fill let's end the filibuster but do you see even

01:04:20.080 even on the judges i just want to interject they would probably do that first do you see how

01:04:22.840 frustrating it is for me though because they're like no we need to get we need to get trump in

01:04:27.360 there so that we can have amy coney barrett yeah and then she'll just screw up birthright citizenship

01:04:34.380 for everyone so on the one hand we all agree or we should there are accelerationists there are

01:04:39.540 people who are like go vote for a democrat because yeah then it'll wake up america and things like

01:04:43.960 that i'm like no what it will do is actually there are demographic political realities related to the

01:04:49.000 concentration of power via the formation of identity groups that then function as a group

01:04:54.640 to pursue their political ends and punish their political enemies and one of those realities is

01:05:00.340 that democrats love to leverage sweeping border reform yep to flood our nation with new democrats

01:05:07.520 and then it becomes barring bloodshed virtually impossible for for the political process to ever

01:05:14.320 do anything america's pretty much cooked now are we there already some would argue maybe

01:05:18.620 some would argue no i don't want that because i understand that the political process is actually

01:05:25.040 onerous. It takes a long time. It's complicated. It's difficult. So I want two things to happen at

01:05:30.640 the same time. I actually do want some more of our normie brothers to cook. And I want

01:05:39.700 people to do what they can within that electoral process and the news cycles and caring about it

01:05:47.120 to try to identify winning strategies, winning rhetoric that will get at the right issues like

01:05:53.720 immigration and the ethnic and national identity, like all of these things. And I want those to be

01:05:58.880 packaged by really skillful political operators that can then have electoral success in a way

01:06:05.080 that could possibly work. And at the same time, I want those guys to do what the left does for

01:06:13.360 the people on the right who are not those guys, which are their more radical wing, which we're

01:06:18.520 that. We're a part of that, whether we like it or not. We're radical right wingers, which is

01:06:23.120 hilarious because we're like literally believe things that everybody in America believed until

01:06:28.320 like 1950 and sometimes even longer than that. So I want those guys to not get mad and constantly

01:06:38.580 counter signal and spend a lot of their energy trying to stop people who are also in the business

01:06:44.940 of moving the Overton window and actually getting at the real political issues underneath their

01:06:51.240 packaging because what we're talking about there is packaging um for that middle but you know big

01:06:58.520 middle general 100 iq 90 to 105 iq kind of big mass of people i actually think one of the best

01:07:07.160 people in the world at this on the right was charlie kirk charlie kirk was so good at this

01:07:11.560 and he had his he had his issues in places we disagree with him but he was absolutely brilliant

01:07:16.260 at this. You could see even he had a response. I don't even know what the context was, but he was

01:07:21.760 talking about the natural law tradition and he was going through the biblical foundations of natural

01:07:28.720 law. And he was just, he rattled it off, off the cuff. I've seen him dismantle questions about the

01:07:34.720 Frankfurt School and about critical theory. And he had a way of bringing the conversations where

01:07:39.380 I know he was thinking some of the thoughts we talk about in our thinking, but he was able to

01:07:43.180 package them very effectively for normies and make radical liberals look really stupid in ways that

01:07:49.360 moved elections. And he was good at translating that into political energy that actually participated

01:07:54.960 in the existing system. So, however, what we also really need, we need a group of people

01:08:04.440 in media and politics to skillfully, skillfully move the window on some of these issues from

01:08:16.240 we're in normalcy bias with crazy insanity land, Looneyville. And we need to move some of those

01:08:22.500 people to understand that they live in Looneyville, insanity land, and start to contemplate

01:08:27.400 things like maybe the 19th Amendment actually was bullish. Now, I don't say that because I believe

01:08:33.180 it likely that we'll repeal the 19th amendment in the next three to five years. I don't believe

01:08:37.260 that at all. No. Barring miraculous intervention from God, I don't believe that. However,

01:08:42.080 I do want the messaging that is outside of that Looneyville over here on the outside the Overton

01:08:47.820 window, kind of right, to be formulating and pulling and developing talking points and

01:08:54.260 foundation level principles that can then be packaged and used effectively politically and

01:08:59.420 maybe by others, but eventually in such a way that we might move enough that some of those

01:09:05.000 positions actually do become mainstream platform positions and genuinely show up on national

01:09:11.320 state level politics. And one of the ways that we do that is by from the ground up doing the

01:09:18.720 real work of politics and infiltrating the Republican party, taking over local politics,

01:09:23.680 getting guys who understand this stuff and work their way up through. And it means that they don't

01:09:27.980 show up to their first Republican meeting and say every single thing that we do. I think that's

01:09:33.860 actually true. But one of the functions of this group over here on the right is to put words to

01:09:39.780 things that a lot of those people are sensing and they don't have words for, and to introduce the

01:09:43.480 cognitive dissonance where eventually they start to say, man, I've been programmed to defend

01:09:48.460 foreigners against my own American cultural identity. Think about how insane this is.

01:09:54.120 Republicans right now are freaking out at Bo and French, Texas. Yeah. In Texas about his comments

01:10:01.300 about the UT game and the Indian co-ethnic group there that was, you know, or whatever it is,

01:10:06.220 I can't remember some Asian or Indian group and the replacement of white American men in this

01:10:13.840 university in just in the last 20 years with foreign students. Okay. That's a big issue.

01:10:19.500 Now, Republicans come out of the woodwork and vociferously defend the foreigners, the immigration, the replacement of white Americans with these folks in universities and culture.

01:10:35.500 do you know how democrat leaning indians are in america it is literally suicide politically

01:10:44.160 suicidal for for the gop to be defending this because they're defending the mechanism of their

01:10:50.280 next electoral defeat but so i want the people outside that normal window to be giving language

01:10:56.100 to that and saying they're the emperor has no clothes group and eventually i do believe that

01:11:01.120 reality can win, but it actually will take people outside that window saying things that are

01:11:06.400 politically unpopular before they are politically acceptable. Think of all the things today that

01:11:11.200 are politically acceptable to say that were not politically acceptable to say three years ago.

01:11:15.420 Yeah. And I think one of the ways we've talked about it internally is that you have the

01:11:19.300 politician and the prophet. And one of the roles of the prophet is to change the political

01:11:24.840 imagination. Yes. To change the context in which conversations are happening. Now, one thing that

01:11:30.480 can happen i think this is to your point you can have the politician get really angry at the prophet

01:11:34.880 yes because you're making life uncomfortable yes and i say i know and to many of them my brother

01:11:39.900 in christ your kids will love it yeah i'm trying to actually pull you towards something that could

01:11:46.300 be politically effective and even more than that here's a crazy idea what if it was actually good

01:11:51.420 for the american people yeah yeah part of part of the problem i foresee in this and this gets

01:11:56.940 back to the lindsey clancy thing um as long as the ruling elites are the evil wicked disgusting

01:12:05.100 demonic people that they are you will continue to get all the major institutions hollywood tv

01:12:11.620 your sports which are just like shot through with like gambling and alcohol and like all these

01:12:19.560 horrible things they're going to continue to propagandize people toward the horrible things

01:12:23.020 um but i i certainly do think that you can build coalition um you can still do you can do the

01:12:32.180 things you can do you can't do the things you can't do yeah um and certainly i think the hopeful

01:12:37.280 thing for me certainly is that as we people charge us with this all the time it's like you guys are

01:12:43.160 just podcasters you don't have to live in the real world that's so convenient for you and and

01:12:48.020 what's actually true and this is this is the part i love we live in such a culture that it is just

01:12:55.500 so starved for courageous men with testicular fortitude that if you will just be bold do you

01:13:02.660 know how many people with seven figure incomes and real political power come out of the woodwork

01:13:07.820 and be like thank god i've been saying it for 10 years i'm glad somebody's standing on the

01:13:13.340 beachhead and then the troops start rallying so i think and it's going to take a rare blend for

01:13:19.040 the politician of courage and competence and tact and political maneuvering cunning and cunning like

01:13:26.200 you go to the city council meeting and you craft a message to get yourself elected i want people

01:13:32.680 fluent in boomer and i want people fluent in zoomer to be involved in the political process

01:13:37.200 who agree with the foundational ideas we're espousing just the other day i i was having a

01:13:41.920 conversation uh with an older gentleman kind of in reform circles and we're going back about

01:13:47.380 whether or not literally we're going back about whether or not indians who poop in the street

01:13:52.720 are good to have in america who by the way worship you know khali cows demon and throw poop at each

01:13:59.300 other and drink copy all this crazy stuff we're actually arguing about this and but but but here's

01:14:04.300 the thing that silences the conversation i said you know what would you join me this week in

01:14:07.760 praying for the conversion of the indian nation in india yeah like yeah send the gospel whatever

01:14:14.420 and you know what like they realize like i you can you can understand their frame and you can

01:14:20.280 say look i do want the gospel to come to the indian people yes i don't want the indian people

01:14:25.200 in my neighborhood while they still worship hindu gods and even if they convert to christ

01:14:30.260 you have a country no and that you have a people and that is one of the key points that people miss

01:14:36.840 in this whole conversation is you're like, yeah, but what if we, we shouldn't have any kind of

01:14:40.720 restrictions surrounding race or like national identity should all be around religion. We will

01:14:45.800 take the Christians here. And I'm always like, so this is your plan. And you think this is better

01:14:50.580 for the gospel is that we would incentivize all of the Christians to flee the countries that

01:14:56.220 desperately need Christ that are basically 0% converted. And you want to take all of the

01:15:02.180 wealthiest, smartest, highest capacity Christians out of that country, out of the influence of

01:15:10.940 their kinsmen and import them into America. Who loves the conversions of the nations more?

01:15:17.840 The person advocating for that policy or the person who says, no, no, no, I want my Christian

01:15:21.860 Indian brethren to stay in India and evangelize their kinsmen. Just as we have a lot of work here

01:15:29.360 to evangelize and see our kinsmen converted like america is not in good shape probably the big like

01:15:36.800 one of it's a top three most dangerous group to my grandchildren it's not mexicans or indians it's

01:15:43.220 white women yeah so we have a lot of work to do but i'm not trying to i'm not trying to go to japan

01:15:49.620 because japan is like this wonderful orderly society i'm not trying to go to south korea

01:15:54.900 and be like you know asian supremacy they're doing great they've got an orderly society

01:15:59.260 maybe i could just i could just pull the ripcord get out of america before it collapses into

01:16:05.220 balkanization and you know basically detroit everything and i'll just i'll go to japan to

01:16:10.740 an orderly society and i'll reap the fruits of their political activity well that would be dumb

01:16:15.280 it's my duty to this is our home this is my home these are my people where is that for the indian

01:16:21.420 immigrant that is like oh but i'm a no no you don't understand i'm way above average i'm i'm

01:16:27.160 super economically productive. I started this business. And it's a nine-figure business that

01:16:32.940 I started here. I'm employing 50, 100, 1,000 Americans. I'm doing all this great stuff. And

01:16:37.980 I would say still, oh, and I'm a Christian to boot. I would say, then why aren't you doing that

01:16:43.440 in India? Even the pagans love their kinsmen according to the flesh. What are we doing here?

01:16:54.320 like on both ends the policy doesn't make sense no no so i think bringing things full circle

01:17:02.140 lindsey clancy you're absolutely right about the immigration stuff uh if you look at the landscape

01:17:06.400 we have a ton of work to do here yeah feminism is a huge part of the problem and so if you want

01:17:11.460 to join us i think in tearing down the longhouse look this is where it leads to yeah you've got

01:17:16.920 decades with what 60 plus million babies in america murdered in the womb you've got more of

01:17:22.240 this craziness going on in the country i'm sure there will be copycat just already have been

01:17:29.120 insane oh women more of this to come and and again if you want to join us in the work it would be

01:17:35.200 helpful to know the history it would be helpful to know the facts it would be helpful to know

01:17:39.180 yeah actually this demonic occult killing children stuff like goes back to the french

01:17:44.540 revolution in the early you know the matriarchs of feminism like mary wilsencraft so we get into

01:17:50.000 that in the book um one of the things i think that the biggest thing though for me don't black

01:17:55.660 pill it is so easy as you look at this and you're like we have a society where people and crazy

01:18:02.180 women are lionizing a woman who took eight minutes to strangle each one of her small children

01:18:06.980 she's the hero in their story so i think it's easy to black pill but here's what i would encourage

01:18:13.660 people we spend the last two chapters of the book yeah giving you hope showing you how we we

01:18:19.840 look, we're, you know, five to 10 years into this process. We've been doing it long before this

01:18:26.860 moment. Long before anybody knew who we were, by the way, long before we were podcasting. Yeah. No,

01:18:31.000 no platform, whatever. And I would just say this, you can build a place that isn't ruled like that.

01:18:36.700 You can do it. You can build a place. And it's not theoretical. By the grace of God and through

01:18:42.800 a lot of work, it exists in Ogden, Utah. Yes. It exists in Ogden, Utah. And so when people say,

01:18:49.260 oh, you're just podcasters. What do you guys know? You're just out here blackpilling and

01:18:52.620 discouraging people. And I'm like, no, no, no. I'm telling them that the work is harder than

01:18:56.120 they think it is. There's more to be done. And they need to stop talking about winning the GOP

01:19:02.180 or whatever and actually win your house. Maybe win your wife. Maybe kill the feminism in your

01:19:08.260 house first. Is your wife the breadwinner? Does your wife wear the pants in the relationship?

01:19:12.760 Is your church full of bossy women? Clean your room, in the words of Jordan Peterson.

01:19:17.680 like weird thing to cite in this episode since you know daily wire but clean your room like take

01:19:23.900 care of what you did first and then you'll see how much harder it is to actually build than you

01:19:28.600 think it is it's way harder but you can do it we're not that smart talented whatever like

01:19:35.840 by the grace of god if you will just muster the testicular fortitude and the courage to

01:19:41.980 to look women in the eye and say no to look men who act like women in the eye and say no

01:19:46.320 to lose people to say, okay, I would rather be like Gideon. I would rather, I agree with Charlie

01:19:52.700 Kirk. I would rather have a hundred or 300 courageous men in the conservative world that

01:19:57.580 will actually put their money where their mouth is and be willing to lose a lot of people's respect,

01:20:02.640 good opinion, whatever help than a thousand feckless milk toast, middle of the road,

01:20:08.560 fence walking men who have not set their own home in order, who have not set their own churches in

01:20:13.400 order, who have not set their own businesses in order. And when they have, then I'll be willing

01:20:17.480 to talk and I'll be willing to hear their criticisms. Yeah. It's interesting to me. I've,

01:20:21.320 I've sort of had this notion that we're recruiting, growing, maturing, building men for the last

01:20:30.000 days of civilization. I don't mean that that will be the end of civilization,

01:20:34.760 but these are, these are last men for the last times. As we rebuild, as we transfer to the

01:20:41.340 rebuilding of civilization as we do this work yeah and what's interesting to me you see the

01:20:45.740 critique all the time from the you know credentialed boomer pastors toward us oh yeah well how many

01:20:51.180 degrees do you have and i said listen the premium right now is not on theological knowledge

01:20:56.020 i have two and they're useless the premium right now is on a very simple virtue that is the heart

01:21:02.320 of masculinity which is courage veer the word means literally courage manliness like to be

01:21:09.980 virtuous is to be manly to be man as a man so you look at it and you're like you actually just have

01:21:16.520 to be the guy when they're like no she is a sweet i list i was listening to one of the the transcripts

01:21:23.380 from one of the the psychiatrists who evaluated lindsey clancy and she said no she is a sweet

01:21:28.460 and affectionate mother the hell are you talking about sweet and affectionate she strangled her

01:21:34.600 children she strangled them one by one jeffrey dahmer was a sweet and affectionate chef he just

01:21:40.680 he just wanted to go to flavor town and he had a craving for that human those human rinds

01:21:46.360 he was just before his time but here's the crazy thing here's my point in all of this cannibal

01:21:52.160 he was yeah okay good that reference he was so here's the crazy thing

01:21:57.000 you'll notice guys like kevin de young have said absolutely nothing about lindsey clancy why

01:22:04.000 their church is full of feminists they know they can't say anything and and yeah you can laugh and

01:22:09.780 you can be like man these dummies down in ogden and we're like we're literally the guy who's like

01:22:14.960 can't kill your kids that's bad you can't and i will stand on the wall 10 toes down and i will

01:22:21.560 say that is evil you can't do that and they're like how many degrees do you have and i say well

01:22:26.180 i noticed that on this wall defending civilization there are no men with degrees very few very few

01:22:32.260 All of you are standing in the back saying, you know, my podcast has been around for 25 years.

01:22:37.920 I've debated Mormons and Muslims from around the globe.

01:22:41.700 Pat me on the back.

01:22:42.800 I'm like, what about the fight today?

01:22:44.780 Yeah.

01:22:45.220 What about that fight?

01:22:46.800 So I would just encourage men, be courageous.

01:22:49.440 We have obviously, with the book, kind of like put more of our flag out front.

01:22:56.620 But if it was possible.

01:22:58.740 If it was possible.

01:22:59.780 We did it.

01:23:00.160 We did it.

01:23:01.080 rally to the banner yeah rally to the banner we hope to equip you with some with some ammunition

01:23:07.300 and talking points but genuinely like the first eight chapters of the book they're supposed to

01:23:11.880 make you angry because they're supposed to remove all of the varnish that you have all of the rose

01:23:17.420 colored glasses come off they get stomped to the ground all of the like yeah it's not as bad as you

01:23:21.500 think no no it's worse i want you to see how bad it is yeah i want you to see how bad the history

01:23:26.760 is from the roots. I want you to see how bad the church is. I want you to see how bad the economy

01:23:31.900 is. I want you to see how bad the culture is. I want you to see like all of it. I want you to see

01:23:37.480 it all the way down. And then I want you to see that you can still do something about it. But

01:23:44.120 here's the thing. It can't be just talking. You actually have to do things about it. And that's

01:23:49.460 chapter nine and chapter 10. The most important chapters in the book, in my opinion, chapter nine

01:23:53.860 in chapter 10, where the rubber meets the road and we ask the so what question. Because so many

01:23:59.200 people, even many of the footnotes in the book are from people who have asked the questions of

01:24:03.840 what happened and trying to figure it out and doing the work and the data and the journalism

01:24:08.320 and like excellent journalism. But when they get to the so what question, what should we do about

01:24:12.200 it? They have no idea. And Christians have real Christians who believe the Bible and have the

01:24:17.160 fortitude to believe what actual Christians believed before the 20th century about the most

01:24:21.920 basic elements of human life and the creation of the world God made. They have answers to this,

01:24:26.440 but those answers are not compatible with modern liberalism. They are absolutely incompatible.

01:24:32.460 You cannot carve out halfway houses. You can't accommodate modern liberalism. It is a corpse

01:24:37.520 beetle that will get under the skin and hollow out the Christian body until it is a husk in a

01:24:44.020 mummified shell of what it used to be. And they're walking around in that shell pretending like it's

01:24:49.600 still Christianity. You can't let one of them in because that is what they will do. It will hollow

01:24:53.960 it out to the bottom, to the bone, and it will remake Christianity in its own image. And pretty

01:24:59.560 soon what you'll find is that, wow, Christian ethics just so happens to be, as Stephen Wolf

01:25:04.380 constantly points out, it's wild. It just so happens to be modern liberal political ethics.

01:25:11.480 The timeless politics of Jesus. The timeless politics of Jesus turns out to be exactly what

01:25:16.280 bill clinton and hillary clinton believed oh i can't believe it that is so crazy yeah

01:25:23.100 yeah so yeah no absolutely so we encourage people you can check out uh the new book the

01:25:29.720 longhousebook.com uh we're currently as we're recording in pre-order uh but getting very close

01:25:35.980 to yeah god willing the uh rival of books and by the way we said we're going to sign the first

01:25:41.100 thousand copies in pre-order as a thank you we're trying to tell people to thank you for pre-ordering

01:25:45.840 before the book hits the mail the next day because obviously that's not as fun like it's it's cool

01:25:50.780 for you to be able to order and get it like that week once our once we have them in the warehouse

01:25:54.380 um but it costs us i mean so much money to print high quality books at volume with all of the work

01:26:02.400 for several years that go into a book like this before it sees the light of day so it's a big

01:26:06.560 risk for us a lot of the time to do a book like this because we can't say we're not gonna we're

01:26:10.480 not going to go, you know, go light in the paint and say, Hey, let's just, you know, let's get

01:26:15.500 2000 of them and hope that 2000 people are interested in this book. We're like, no five

01:26:21.120 digit order or, or bust, which is a one way of becoming bankrupt. So thank you for pre-ordering.

01:26:28.760 We give 10% off and we said we'd sign the first thousand. You guys blew through the first thousand

01:26:32.300 copies very quickly. So we're well past that now. And we're going to regret this, but I'm

01:26:40.100 are you willing to say that we'll sign all the pre-orders?

01:26:44.260 All the pre-orders?

01:26:45.380 Every pre-order.

01:26:47.000 I'll do it.

01:26:47.860 Let's say for the sake of not being liars,

01:26:51.160 because if we actually go past a certain point,

01:26:53.820 we'd probably be unable to sign them without it being a full-time job for

01:26:56.800 three months.

01:26:57.420 Let's say we'll sign the first 10,000 pre-orders.

01:26:59.960 That's our cap because I have to have a limit.

01:27:03.320 So like I have my carpal tunnel at some point,

01:27:05.860 but we'll,

01:27:07.300 we'll sign the pre-orders.

01:27:08.520 I'm inspired.

01:27:09.100 i went to a chris paranto event he was the 13 hours uh i believe army ranger if he yeah believe

01:27:16.000 so uh but uh met him got to talk to him had some friends who who knew him and there was an event

01:27:21.700 there was like i don't know 4 000 people there yeah and they said hey if you want to get in line

01:27:26.600 to have your book of 13 hours the benghazi situation if you want to have it signed chris

01:27:30.700 will be in line for the next hour yeah well the hour goes by and there's still like 2 000 people

01:27:36.160 and the agent was like hey chris we got to wrap it up and he goes no these people paid money to

01:27:41.020 be here yeah he's like i will and he stands up and he says i will sign every copy from everyone

01:27:46.660 who's here i don't care if we're here all night somebody get me a monster energy his agent is

01:27:50.800 like but i was like dude one day that'll we're gonna that'll be so what we're saying is we're

01:27:57.720 basically in the special force no i'm saying i was inspired by we was inspired by inspired by a

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01:28:21.100 his neck is like this everybody says my physique is like you know the nebraska corn huskers picture

01:28:26.120 of those yes yes yes that's basically me i'm on a bulk i'm going in muscle building phase thanks

01:28:31.960 for everybody who's been making fun of me now for being too skinny because like when i was too fat

01:28:36.140 and you made fun of me it worked it's working again you gotta pick a lane skinny and so i'm

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The King's Hall - September 18, 2026

Lindsay Clancy, Mass Hysteria, & The Feminization of America

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