00:14:47.700Like, if we can attain this, we'll all be happy.
00:14:49.360What's confusing about it is—so the ultimate goal, as you mentioned, is destroying the pillars of Christianity, which include family, self-governance, representative governance, that sort of thing.
00:15:00.200But they use words that seem really good.
00:15:04.700But they mean something completely contrary to what we as Christians would define freedom as.
00:15:10.180This gets adopted today, diversity, equity, and inclusion.
00:15:14.640And one of the things that we talk about with equity is actually this gross perversion of racism through things like critical race theory, wokeness, white fragility, the book.0.58
00:15:25.580That sort of nomenclature, Black Lives Matter, it's really just meant to divide and destroy America so that the elites can make a power grab.
00:15:50.520That's right. And what this is fundamentally is a power play where you have a kingdom that is attempting to consolidate power and defeat an enemy. And our proposition is that that enemy has always been Christianity and truly Christian culture.
00:16:09.040If you look at the enemy, the way that the French Revolution framed their enemies, it ultimately was the war of a different religion against Christian faith and Christian society.0.92
00:16:21.760I know that we're going to have a period at the end of this podcast where we're saying, you know, this is not what we're saying.
00:16:28.400But I'm just going to front load it right here because one of the things I hear when we're talking like this is that, oh, these Christians, they just have a persecution complex.0.86
00:16:47.120And so the enemy is running some sort of measure.
00:16:50.180They're trying to take some sort of ground.
00:16:51.840They're trying to fortify certain defenses.
00:16:54.040And what we're trying to do is head that off in a countermeasure in sorties and different attacks to make sure that our people aren't actually persuaded by the propaganda of the enemy.
00:17:18.680It is world domination. Every knee will bow.
00:17:21.200We're trying to see the nations converted, baptized, discipled, and instructed. So it's like, you know, we're going out. That's what we're openly trying to do, right?
00:17:31.040And in the West, particularly in countries that were European, Western Christendom, you saw the peak of success in this mission.
00:17:42.520Like you saw basically whole societies that were self-described.
00:17:54.440And so as a way of counterattacking Christendom, the other team will always attempt lots of different strategies to try to undermine, grab power, consolidate, divide and conquer.0.89
00:18:06.940And what we're saying is that some of the same tactics that were used in the French Revolution to demonize the enemies of this revolution are analogous to the tactics that are being used right now to wage war on this, quote unquote, whiteness, white culture.0.78
00:18:25.860And our proposition is that that's actually just a proxy war for Christianity.0.74
00:18:31.620They're just trying – they hate Christianity as the reason that they ultimately are at war with whiteness.0.83
00:18:37.600If Christendom had developed in Africa and we had everything inverted, the war would also be inverted.0.98
00:19:29.560Well, in particular, like, I remember the BLM thing during 20—I became really aware of it in, like, 2020 when all that stuff was going on in the rioting.
00:19:37.440And I just went to their website, and I was like, what is Black Lives Matter?
00:19:40.720And you look on their website, and they're like, we're anti-patriarchy, anti-nuclear family, basically anti-Christendom.
00:45:36.880Whitewashing, people would be offended at that term.0.76
00:45:39.480If you were whitewashing the black church,
00:45:41.340meaning you know that if you're looking at it and you're just it's all rosy yeah or if it's all0.77
00:45:47.400negative well you're probably not going to be able to help them right um so you've got to look at the
00:45:51.500full picture i think votie bacham has even said this you know after the george floyd thing um
00:45:56.220they were like when are you going to talk about police brutality against black people and he said
00:45:59.860well i would probably address fatherless black homes first because that's significantly greater
00:46:05.620probably um and they don't you know culturally we don't we don't want to hear vadi is not actually
00:46:09.560black if he says that yeah he's not a true black and yeah he's not the right black voice he's
00:46:14.360actually just uh a puppet of whiteness right you see how they run this play it's actually0.99
00:46:19.160disgusting they say he's a house slave yeah they say they say yeah absolutely offensive things0.98
00:46:24.840because what they're saying is you if unless you agree with us you're not actually black like0.99
00:46:29.900biden said that you don't vote for me you ain't black i've actually heard what a gaffe machine0.80
00:46:36.220Yeah, like former seminary student friends, like one guy told me, he said, I'm sick and tired of white Christians using like Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell and people like this.0.93
00:46:46.040They don't represent black communities.
00:46:48.320They believe in math and economics.1.00
00:46:50.440And I was like, well, who gets to determine that?
00:47:03.060And the thing is, if you are trying to dismiss all of the glories of any culture by basically weaponizing their sins, you can do it with any culture.
00:47:13.620Because, again, human beings are sinful.
00:47:16.440You put a lot of them together, it doesn't cancel out.
00:47:19.720It's not like two negatives multiplying.
00:47:22.340It actually exponentially magnifies the sin.
00:47:25.300The more people you get in there, they all start piling up their sins and sinning because the other person sinned at them, so they sin back, and then they sin back because they sinned at the sinning back.
00:47:34.260And it's just like that's human culture apart from Christ.
00:47:36.740One thing we talked about before we rolled the recording for this episode is that what this does is it obscures some of the peculiar glories of Western Christendom, things like wherever Christianity has gone, women and children have actually, the plight of women and children has exponentially improved.0.81
00:47:57.800Even atheists like Tom Holland, historian Tom Holland, wrote a book about this recently.
00:48:02.640I can't remember the title, but he wrote a book about this recently.0.98
00:48:24.640No, I think I've mentioned it before too, but this is a book by Alvin Schmidt. It's called How Christianity Changed the World. It talks about what's been done for human rights. I don't necessarily agree with that term, but as we understand it, better for the liberty of human beings, better for women, healthcare, hospitals, things like that, technology.
00:48:44.580so much of the things that we appreciate in the West as providing our quality of life come from
00:48:51.340directly from Christianity, including science. It's been distorted and twisted and hijacked,
00:48:56.420but science is a predominantly Christian endeavor. Yeah, which is why you see even1.00
00:49:01.440things like math and analytical reasoning being attributed to whiteness. Thinking like in some of
00:49:08.900these race sensitivity trainings in workplaces and schools, you'll look at the slides that leak
00:49:15.180out. People go, I was made to look at this or to sit through this class, and it'll be like examples
00:49:20.100of white supremacy, and it'll be like analytical reasoning, insistence upon logic, like the use
00:49:25.340of math. And again, asymmetrical warfare against Christianity, that's what's happening. Because
00:49:31.880the Christian worldview is what gave the only foundation presuppositionally for things like0.99
00:49:38.520logic, reason, and math, and science to cohere and to actually work, you would not have the0.89
00:49:43.920scientific revolution happen in a non-Christian culture. It simply would not happen. The book,1.00
00:49:50.620by the way, was Dominion, How the Christian Revolution Remade the World by Tom Holland,
00:49:54.840but talking about the same thing, it sounds like this Schmidt book was talking about.
00:49:58.720And I think this is one reason why you mentioned this. I think why you see a lot of professors who
00:50:03.080were like oh math is racist i think they're probably recognizing a historical reality that
00:50:08.520that it's been a lot of white people who develop math every now and then you'll hear the argument
00:50:13.120that that the genius of math really comes from muslims yeah the arabic world the arabic world1.00
00:50:17.980but predominantly people i mean i've i've even heard feminists are like all the great inventions
00:50:23.340are men and it pisses me off and they're all white you know but but there's a lot of fact there0.95
00:50:28.500And what that is, again, like the one error that you could make would be to go that it is because of some intrinsic genetic superiority of whiteness that, you know, we're like that just produces math.0.67
00:50:41.040And what we're saying is that actually these things are the result of Christianity in history.
00:50:48.700And the downstream effects are the fruit of that tree, the fruit of people thinking as you have to think if you're going to like to be a scientist.
00:50:58.500You have to believe that the world is orderly and knowable, that it's not continually changing.
00:51:03.380You have to believe that your senses accurately portray that reality to you.0.80
00:51:07.340You have to operate on 20 or 30 presuppositions before you have breakfast if you want to do any kind of science, and those are Christian presuppositions.0.86
00:51:17.660Well, and this kind of goes to the last point I think that we're talking about today, but what happens if you say you have like a love for just ethnic whiteness apart from Christianity? Well, you get things like Nazi Germany. Really bad. You get old Norse paganism. You get the Germanic pagans that Boniface encountered. That's correct.0.86
00:51:36.920or you get a lot of asian cultures yeah exactly where you have uh certain countries certain
00:51:43.980nationalities that are absolutely despised because of genetic superiority just pure genetic
00:51:50.700superiority and so and there's history there yeah well yeah i you you can look at things like the0.50
00:51:57.940even the chinese with the uyghurs and it's like uh um yeah that's not cool yeah if you go see this
00:52:04.760is the thing people want to say or they want to pretend even that when they're as they're
00:52:08.880magnifying the sins of western christendom they'll also want to make those sins peculiar to western
00:52:15.540christendom things like slavery the transatlantic slave trade and these things the reality is the0.63
00:52:20.400entire world was dominated for millennia by slave trading warring warlording including by black0.63
00:52:28.040people including by black people including by asian people asian peoples enslaved other asian0.87
00:52:32.680peoples native americans enslaved other native americans africans enslaved other africans i mean
00:52:37.060white people enslaved other white people even you you go through the history of the world and when
00:52:41.980you're not running it through this sav of anti-christian propagandist revisionist history
00:52:47.200well then you'll notice that sin actually tends to happen everywhere where people are enslaved to sin
00:52:53.420and not christians yeah and you you've also got to look at the whole picture too what we've been
00:52:57.680saying before and you say you look at it and say well it's also white christendom and william
00:53:01.420will before some people like this who put an end to it for the first time really in world history
00:53:06.880yeah and set a tone for the rest of the world that was a good thing yeah that's right so yeah
00:53:12.280don't just you know it really what we're getting into is the sin of partiality yeah right so one
00:53:18.040of the things that james says uh is that we're we're not supposed to treat the rich preferentially
00:53:22.780we're also not supposed to treat the poor preferentially so it can it can actually cut
00:53:28.340both ways. And, you know, affirmative action being one of the ways that we cuts the opposite
00:53:33.200direction, you're still showing partiality. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. You know, and I think
00:53:38.480just to add on to the effectiveness of this, of this move by the enemy, the different ways that
00:53:44.260it looks, because I think we all, most Christians, your average normie conservative Christian that
00:53:50.480goes to a Bible-believing, gospel-preaching church, they see CNN or some pink-haired
00:53:59.120chick on Twitter or something like that just absolutely blasting Christianity or some of0.55
00:54:03.680the foundations of Christianity. That's easy to shrug off, right? This is much more subtle than
00:54:09.240that. And one of the most effective tactics in the French Revolution was art, was art and
00:54:16.060entertainment. And the rise of pornography. Yes. So you have more subtlety in these attacks
00:54:24.160on the foundations of Christianity. And so things like, Brian, you've talked about this before
00:54:30.180with Netflix and with your entertainment choices, you're actually being catechized constantly.
00:54:37.280And so it's much more subtle. The other thing, so you have entertainment, the way different
00:54:43.900enslavements of your passions, but you also have enemies on the inside. Because one of the cold
00:54:49.860opens we almost used was about a traitor, about Benedict Arnold. Because another effective tactic
00:54:55.860that the enemy is using right now are Christian voices, specifically Christian voices that are0.96
00:55:02.500attacking the people that are supposed to be in the barracks with them, that are supposed to be
00:55:08.060seeing his kingdom come and his will be done on earth as it is in heaven. And they're trying to
00:55:12.700discourage and lead people astray well i think that's what hurts so much dan i think like it's
00:55:18.580one thing when you have just a marxist professor who's attacking christianity yeah that's obvious0.94
00:55:24.000but i'm an atheist i hate god he doesn't exist or whatever the ones that have really sucked are
00:55:28.600like david french who's is or was a pca elder and it's like you look at what this guy writes0.67
00:55:34.200you're like how's this guy not under church discipline right i mean he's lying about
00:55:38.180christianity and spewing all this stuff which basically it gets to this issue of that you're
00:55:44.500continually especially as american white christian man you're continually being shamed simply for who
00:55:51.000you are because of the color of your skin because of your christianity people that are supposed to
00:55:56.060be identifying with you in your culture are discouraging you and disparaging i think and
00:56:02.180that's why the reverse too though of why if there's just a few of them but if you have voices
00:56:07.040like Jordan Peterson or if you have voices like Doug Wilson, so many people have rallied to them
00:56:11.780because they're like, this guy's actually, he's actually running cover for us. Yeah. Like they're
00:56:16.380defending us and saying, no, there's nothing to be ashamed of here. Yeah. Yeah. And it, like you've
00:56:20.940said in conversations before, Eric, when people complain about the popularity of Jordan Peterson,
00:56:25.720you're like, yeah, why did he have to be the one that was saying these things? It shouldn't have
00:56:30.220been an atheistic psychologist. Yeah. It shouldn't have been a union. It should have been Christian.
00:56:33.940this message should have so saturated pulpits that jordan peterson would have said it and people0.91
00:56:39.380would have been like duh like okay canadian guy like okay you've got the basics good job yeah
00:56:43.360good job like you yeah you've you've graduated first grade of anthropology and i think what
00:56:49.300we've seen is prominent voices within conservatism where there was a real betrayal um yet you know
00:56:55.500guys like mark dever al moeller that forever it was like these are the bastions of christian
00:57:00.800conservatism. Al Mohr has a conservative radio show. And yet he's like, either won't say anything
00:57:06.640or goes soft on wokeness. You have Mark Dever echoing very similar sentiments where it's like,
00:57:12.560well, you know, if you're a black in America, you can't go anywhere without having to lock your door
00:57:16.180and being looked over three times by the police. And I'm like, well, the reality is, Brian, I think0.65
00:57:21.220you had a story of a white lady. Yeah, there was a story I was trying to look at, like, again,
00:57:27.160those things are not allowed to notice. And there was a story of, this is a story that a woman
00:57:33.380shared on Quora, which is like people can ask questions if you're not familiar with it and you
00:57:37.460can answer. And this woman had, she lived in New Orleans about just over 10 years ago. She was,
00:57:44.180you know, had been there for years. It was her place. She knew it. Totally comfortable. Yeah.
00:57:47.800White lady. And she was just out on the sidewalk somewhere in her, in New Orleans. And she was0.79
00:57:54.120calling a taxi and it was a friday's was taking a while to get there she's kind of sitting there
00:57:57.980shuffling her feet on the phone they're not answering because it's busy and she hears a car
00:58:03.120pull up behind her and the people are laughing in the car and she kind of glances over it's three
00:58:07.260three black men and she's like yeah it's new orleans whatever she's totally comfortable0.97
00:58:11.220again not like locking her door not like oh no they're not the non-whites like that's how she's0.96
00:58:17.120doing and uh so she turns back and then the next thing she knows is she hears this just0.99
00:58:22.540thwump and and just feels this blow to her head falls to the ground turns around sees that there's
00:58:30.600one of these men has a pipe and they just start just brutally beating her and they're you know
00:58:37.500they're brutally beating her she's bleeding everywhere and they're making racial remarks0.61
00:58:41.220about her being white and oh look at like look at this white girl leaking like bleeding and um0.99
00:58:47.440And someone nearby, like, opened up a shop window and said, hey, get out.1.00
01:12:44.780Read the greatest works of Christendom.0.96
01:12:47.740read the greatest works of the Reformation. Those are your inheritance. Those are the works
01:12:52.800of your forefathers that they've stored up these treasures of wisdom and knowledge,
01:12:57.220meditating on the scriptures and on the world and seeing things and penetrating mysteries.
01:13:02.600And they've left these things for you. And the world would love nothing more than to keep you
01:13:07.420from your inheritance by making you despise the men who wrote them. So love them even more.
01:13:14.060Love the classical tradition. Love the classical tradition of this Christian world that grew out of the Hellenized world, that grew out of the Greek and Roman soil, essentially, in God's wisdom, who planted it there in the first century in the soil of Rome and in Greek civilization.
01:13:32.700that was on purpose, where there was Latin spoken and there was Greek spoken. And so we should also
01:13:38.520be taking hold of these great works of the classical and Christian tradition and loving
01:13:44.660them, insisting on loving them even more. So yeah, start classical Christian schools. Read the works
01:13:50.320of classical Christian literature. Read the works of theology from the fathers and from the
01:13:54.860Protestant reformers. And don't let them drive you off of your inheritance and try to peddle to you
01:14:01.480some kind of woke gnostic crt peddling lady pastor today or a regime pastor who's been purchased
01:14:11.940who's bought and paid for by the opposition some benedict cumbersnud or whatever benedict arnold
01:14:18.480uh cumbersnatch i'm sorry i'm gonna try not to make benedict cumberbatch jokes now like i was0.88
01:14:24.900all morning as we were trying to write the cold open obnoxious but you know uh bender snoot0.97
01:14:29.880cumbersnud read that read the great works like a lot of christians today are ignorant of their0.83
01:14:37.540inheritance and i would say if you want to get into it too one of the ways i got into it read
01:14:40.980anthony esalen yeah on western civilization out of the ashes he helps cultivate a love and an
01:14:46.960awareness of these works and why they matter for us esalen's um politically incorrect yeah that's
01:14:52.860gold so he has so many good ones in fact if if anybody knows uh mr esalen we we need
01:14:59.860to get him on the show so um eric knows him i know i'm actually talking to eric right now
01:15:05.140because i've lined up several interviews recently that's the only half way and i and i tweeted at
01:15:11.600anthony esalen but well is he a friend on facebook because that's different than a follower on
01:15:15.960twitter anyway continue yeah friend anyway yeah we're not he only follows like six people um
01:15:21.500i check every day just to see if he's followed me back because uh i am a fan boy uh anyway
01:15:28.260yes and and so what are we not saying here like again because the king's hall podcast is a place
01:15:36.240of winsome nuance um no but because some of this time this right you know people will weaponize
01:15:42.340uh this kind of conversation again proving our point they'll try to weaponize it against us so
01:15:47.920we're not saying that there is no such thing as the sin of ethnic partiality
01:15:54.620and especially that there is no such thing as a white person who commits the sin of ethnic
01:16:00.300partiality i thought you were just going to end right there there is no such thing as a white
01:16:04.320person no it's like seriously you know i've you get good even good platforms like gab is a great
01:16:10.140platform because it actually does privilege christian speech and promotes um free actually
01:16:17.300free speech if i think the rule is if it's not illegal they don't delete it so it doesn't violate
01:16:22.140the law illegal or porn or porn which amen i'm glad that torba does a king does that because
01:16:28.480um that is the correct policy right so but there are guys on there who are genuinely like in some
01:16:34.500of the comments on articles i've gotten these atheist um like skinhead types literally i've
01:16:41.480had atheist skinheads like there who are just absolutely spewing some vileness on my gab feed0.99
01:16:48.820and whatever and i'm i block him or whatever and i look at that and i go what a stupid sin0.99
01:16:53.300when i think you know the the people in the middle to left will look at people like us0.95
01:16:59.540they know that we don't believe it but they want to lie and smear you so like i've seen these terms
01:17:04.660like christophascist oh yeah um yeah i'm a christophascist that's what they'll accuse me of
01:17:10.520or even i think christian nationalism is it's a funnier one because it's intended as an insult0.54
01:17:16.420and then you think about it, it's like, well, wouldn't you want a Christian nation?
01:17:21.360That's like calling me really handsome.
01:17:44.300You're just all these different kind of like ways that you can all the straw man. In fact, like we've even we've even in our own church. We've corrected men who have promoted ideas that were contra biblical. Like when we when we talk about, again, the thing we're locating as the key point is Christianity in producing the culture, Christianity that's lived in a robustly all of Christ for all of life sort of way.
01:18:07.760That's what we're saying. And as a historical fact and a feature of the story God wrote, that took root again in this classical world and grew in its greatest zenith of influence in Western civilization and produced Western civilization.
01:18:22.240Yeah. And so we rejoice when the gospel goes out into every tribe, nation and tongue and people repent.
01:18:28.880I want to see the most glorious Ghanaian and Rwandan and Mexican Christian culture.