The King's Hall - The American Will to Greatness

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00:00:56.600 on july 4th which is tomorrow as of the release of this episode america will celebrate its 250th

00:01:09.740 anniversary though much glory and tragedy as well has followed in the last two centuries since the

00:01:15.440 nation was founded it's easy to forget how close we came to never getting off the ground at all

00:01:20.980 how close we came to seeing our founding fathers executed for treason and the colonies remaining

00:01:26.760 under British rule. Winning what has since been named the Revolutionary War was simply not the

00:01:33.000 foregone conclusion we may think it was, comfortably standing as we do on the downstream

00:01:38.140 side of history. And so it's our hope on this monumental anniversary that we Americans remember

00:01:45.360 the grit, the piety, and the moral principles that caused our forefathers to fight, build,

00:01:51.320 and win a nation for themselves and their posterity. Sadly, America has fallen into many

00:01:57.180 generations of apostasy, fueled as it has been by rampant egalitarianism, feminism, and moral decay.

00:02:04.940 We've tumbled from great heights. The bright lights of our past glory grow dim. There are

00:02:10.840 enemies within and enemies without. With this grim reality in mind, it's good to recall the great men

00:02:17.300 and great events of our ancestors in hopes that their faith and fervor may be a means by which

00:02:23.460 God grants us repentance and renewed faith to return to the God of our fathers and so to find

00:02:30.060 spiritual, physical, and national renewal once again. On July 4th, 1776, the American Continental

00:02:38.300 Congress, a council of notable men that included John Hancock, Benjamin Franklin, Robert Livingston,

00:02:44.500 and John Adams, adopted Thomas Jefferson's Declaration of Independence. In doing so,

00:02:50.140 America announced its freedom to both their British lords and the world. Tension hung thick

00:02:55.500 in the air at such an audacious move. The staunch British loyalists were aghast. American patriots

00:03:01.560 cheered. Those in the middle held their breath. The adoption of the Declaration of Independence

00:03:06.640 was not the end of the story, but only the beginning of what would be a long, drawn-out

00:03:11.520 fight. The British Empire was the most powerful to that point in world history. For a mere

00:03:16.900 colonial outpost to cross them was, in many ways, unthinkable. The American founding fathers knew

00:03:22.660 this, George Washington best of all. The claims of his country, which he had fought and bled for,

00:03:29.300 were monumental. As the general and commander-in-chief of the Continental Army, he was now

00:03:34.580 responsible to defend the cause of liberty. Tensions between Americans and Brits escalated

00:03:40.580 into armed conflict as men who had once been co-workers, neighbors, and friends were now at

00:03:45.840 war. The two sides had been at odds long before the declaration, as at Lexington and Concord in

00:03:51.420 April 1775, but once the colonialists officially declared war, one of the first great campaigns

00:03:58.100 took place in New York. The Americans had taken Boston to put pressure on British General William

00:04:03.700 Howe, and Howe had retreated north to Halifax in Nova Scotia. General Washington quickly sent

00:04:09.640 Major General Charles Lee to take over New York City. Events were swinging in Washington's

00:04:15.260 direction, but only for a moment. Howe regrouped and marched back on New York with an elite force

00:04:21.500 of British infantrymen, cavalry, and artillery. Washington rushed to get to the city and reinforce

00:04:27.520 General Lee, for he knew that New York could not fall back into enemy hands. The defensive campaign

00:04:33.440 was a complete disaster. Washington's group of misfit infantrymen with no artillery and no

00:04:40.140 cavalry stood basically zero chance against the highly trained, highly specialized British forces.

00:04:46.980 The British also used their 300 warships to their advantage surrounding the city. In just under two

00:04:53.420 months, due to the tactical precision of General Howe and several technical mistakes made by

00:04:58.780 Washington, the Americans were forced to completely abandon New York. Thus, the tide of

00:05:03.840 war swung heavily in favor of the Redcoats. Momentum, efficiency, power, and wealth were

00:05:10.460 all on their side. Only willpower and the kind hand of providence remained to determine the

00:05:15.820 outcome for the fledgling Americans. Fortunately, Washington, the crafty French and Indian War

00:05:21.280 veteran, was not out of tricks just yet. Washington sat in his tent just beyond the

00:05:27.160 Delaware River, his weathered hands tracing the cracks of his wooden desk. The light walls of

00:05:32.700 his tent did nothing to keep out the frigid air, as only a single candle flickered in the darkness.

00:05:38.620 The Stoic General of the Continental Army was in a pensive mood, as well he should be. On the morrow,

00:05:44.060 he would be attempting a risky, go-big-or-go-home lightning strike into British-held territory.

00:05:50.320 Win, and the war continued. Lose, and the hopes of a nation would likely be dashed to pieces forever.

00:05:57.160 Washington blew out his lone candle as his mind prepared for the dark road ahead.

00:06:02.360 Washington's master plan was daring and detailed, highly efficient and planned out to the hour.

00:06:08.180 The Continental Army would cross the Delaware River in the dead of night on Christmas Day

00:06:12.040 and march 10 miles to the nearest town of Trenton, New Jersey,

00:06:16.120 where they would surprise a large force of Hessian mercenaries who fought on behalf of the British.

00:06:21.980 Washington recognized that with his small, inefficient, and inferior army,

00:06:26.640 surprise was the only possible advantage he could rely on.

00:06:30.040 To keep the attack a secret,

00:06:31.740 not even his own men could be fully aware of the full scope of his plan.

00:06:35.820 Even so, they followed Washington's cryptic orders without hesitation.

00:06:40.520 He made sure that his three potential river crossing spots were secure.

00:06:44.560 He spent hours with his captains preparing for every possible scenario.

00:06:48.420 But despite all of this, as soon as the day arrived, chaos erupted.

00:06:53.560 As Christmas morning dawned, the weather, which had been frosty but endurable, suddenly grew harsher.

00:06:59.380 The ground hardened and froze over as a massive storm system moved in.

00:07:03.280 Temperatures plummeted, and the bare feet of many of Washington's men suffered the consequences.

00:07:08.800 Finally, late in the afternoon, the regiments began to assemble.

00:07:12.980 They would walk a few miles to the river immediately after sunset.

00:07:16.260 That was all they knew.

00:07:18.080 His men shivered in the cold, wondering what they were doing.

00:07:20.420 would they fail again or would this time be different they could only pray to god and trust

00:07:25.880 general washington because of the storm the pre-planned schedule was broken pretty much

00:07:30.920 from the start many of the regiments didn't arrive until well after dark even though they

00:07:35.760 were supposed to assemble on the shore with the setting of the sun the storm caused the night to

00:07:40.180 be darker than normal while the use of large ferries to carry washington's recently acquired

00:07:44.800 artillery only added to the delays. The freezing men, some 2,500 in total, loaded into creaking

00:07:52.080 rowboats as the turbulent river crashed around them. Huge chunks of ice floated along, blocking

00:07:58.400 the river in slowing progress. Washington gazed upon his men, taking stock of their condition.

00:08:04.540 He could see the morale was low. His men sat in boats part of the way through the river,

00:08:09.000 their faces downcast. Washington debated whether or not to call off the operation entirely.

00:08:14.800 but in the end he decided against it. There were obstacles, yes, but they'd come too far to give up

00:08:20.420 now. In his own boat, accompanied by John Glover's Marblehead Mariners, Washington unfurled a huge

00:08:26.900 American flag, which he planted in the middle of the boat. Its proud stars and stripes seemed to

00:08:32.440 glow in the darkness, a beacon to guide the army through the perils of the night. At the sight of

00:08:37.680 the bright flag, the ill-equipped, downcast, and scraggly men of the Continental Army took heart.

00:08:44.180 The general cut a dashing figure.

00:08:46.400 His face and jaw set as proudly as the flag streaming in the wind behind him.

00:08:51.040 Slowly, the American forces advanced through the river.

00:08:55.200 Washington reached the shore on the other side of the Delaware River early in the morning of December 26th,

00:09:00.780 accompanied by his men and artillery.

00:09:03.080 The firm ground of New Jersey was a relief after the dark night on the choppy Delaware.

00:09:08.320 Washington took his bearings and strained his ears,

00:09:10.500 only to find that they were all alone in the silence and darkness.

00:09:14.780 Originally, the crossing was supposed to result in a three-pronged attack,

00:09:19.180 but the ice-choked river had prevented the companies on either side of Washington from crossing at all.

00:09:24.880 The general waited for 15 minutes before he continued the advance.

00:09:28.780 The plan was already hours behind schedule, but he couldn't wait a moment longer.

00:09:33.520 He assembled his men and led the 10-mile march to the city of Trenton himself.

00:09:38.520 Behind schedule because of the storm, Washington and his forces arrived outside of Trenton at daybreak, around 8 o'clock.

00:09:45.420 They had originally planned to arrive around 5 a.m.

00:09:48.140 Washington split his main army into three columns, the left flank commanded by Major General Nathaniel Green and the right by John Sullivan.

00:09:56.620 Green took his forces and attacked from the north, while Sullivan charged from the west to cut off any southern escape route.

00:10:04.160 Washington personally led the charge of the middle column straight toward the city.

00:10:08.460 He engaged with the watchmen on the edge of the city as shots rang out.

00:10:12.400 For a moment, Washington almost panicked.

00:10:15.120 Surely their cover was blown now.

00:10:17.020 But to his shock, he retained the element of surprise.

00:10:19.980 The Hessian man in charge, Colonel Johan Rall, had been harassed by local American militia for weeks,

00:10:26.320 and he and his men were frankly exhausted.

00:10:28.940 Likewise, they had spent Christmas Day drinking and partying,

00:10:31.720 and consequently many of them now nursed pounding headaches. It wasn't until Washington and Green

00:10:37.820 arrived directly outside of the city walls that German drums began to thunder, frantically calling

00:10:43.480 the Hessians to arms. George Washington gave the order as their bullets ripped into the wooden

00:10:48.660 buildings. Three regiments of Hessians came pouring out of their barracks, firing back.

00:10:53.880 Just as the Hessians seemed to be regrouping, Sullivan joined the fray. Based on numbers and

00:10:58.840 experienced, the Hessians should have dominated. Instead, the Americans unleashed hell as colonials

00:11:05.300 poured into the city, turning a daring gamble into what would become a total rout. The Hessians'

00:11:11.820 great mistake came when Lieutenant Andreas von Weiderholtz reported incorrectly to Colonel Rall

00:11:17.320 that the Americans had completely encircled the city and there was no escape route. With this

00:11:21.800 false intelligence report, Rall decided to counter Washington's attack within the city,

00:11:26.360 instead of retreating through the unguarded Aston Punk Creek behind the city. Washington

00:11:32.160 possessed the highest ground in the city and thus could see every one of Raul's attempts to counter

00:11:36.900 him. In turn, Washington eventually broke the Hessians. Raul was mortally wounded and his

00:11:42.760 forces decimated and his leaderless regiments became a mass of confusion. Just before his

00:11:48.720 inevitable death, Raul officially surrendered to George Washington. An American flag flew once

00:11:54.480 more over the city of Trenton, and Washington's brilliant victory was secured. More than anything,

00:12:00.700 Washington's victory at Trenton helped bolster morale after a long series of defeats for the

00:12:05.840 Continental Army. It was that spark of victory that gave soldiers a renewed confidence that

00:12:11.220 they could win, even against superior forces. Even more, it caused a rising wave of belief

00:12:17.100 in the gravitas of Washington as a commander and leader. As Chesterton once quipped,

00:12:22.920 The one perfectly divine thing, the one glimpse of God's paradise given on earth,

00:12:28.120 is to fight a losing battle and not lose it.

00:12:31.280 Washington had done just that.

00:12:33.140 He'd fought a losing battle, but won.

00:12:35.940 The war would rage on for several more hard-fought years,

00:12:39.300 but Washington's victory at Trenton was pivotal.

00:12:42.200 Finally, on September 3rd, 1783, the British signed the Treaty of Paris,

00:12:47.140 thus recognizing American independence and officially ending the war.

00:12:51.120 But who was to thank for America's glorious and unthinkable victory?

00:12:55.920 Washington left no doubt, as on October 3rd, 1789, he issued a proclamation designating

00:13:02.540 November 26th as a national day of thanksgiving to God.

00:13:06.460 In his proclamation, here's what he wrote.

00:13:08.500 whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of almighty

00:13:13.480 God to obey his will to be grateful for his benefits and humbly to implore his

00:13:19.200 protection and favor and whereas both houses of Congress have by their joint

00:13:23.400 committee requested me to recommend to the people of the United States a day of

00:13:28.060 public Thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful

00:13:32.040 hearts the many signal favors of almighty God especially by affording them an

00:13:37.140 opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness.

00:13:42.180 And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the

00:13:47.080 great Lord and ruler of nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions

00:13:52.620 to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative

00:13:58.380 duties properly and punctually, to render our national government a blessing to all the people

00:14:04.340 by constantly being a government of wise, just, and constitutional laws,

00:14:09.960 discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed,

00:14:12.820 to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations,

00:14:15.960 especially such as have shewn kindness unto us,

00:14:18.920 and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord,

00:14:22.120 to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue,

00:14:26.080 and generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity

00:14:30.280 as he alone knows to be best.

00:14:33.260 Given under my hand at the city of New York, the 3rd of October in the year of our Lord, 1789, President George Washington.

00:14:42.100 The King's Hall Podcast exists to make self-ruled men who rule well and win the world.

00:14:52.420 Well, welcome to this episode of the King's Hall Podcast.

00:14:55.260 I'm one of your hosts, Eric Kahn, joined today by Brian Solveig.

00:15:00.720 it is so good to be here eric so good for so vey so good you know brian uh you spent some time in

00:15:08.440 england i did yes um so in a sense you're a red coat they the the neighborhood kids because we

00:15:15.880 didn't like live on base did you live in middlesex i did i did i lived in middlesex

00:15:20.480 is that really where you lived yeah we did well ikanum yeah in middlesex we we did not live uh

00:15:27.580 on a lake and he's the base.

00:15:29.080 It was like three hours away.

00:15:30.120 Oh yeah.

00:15:30.460 Hour and a half.

00:15:30.880 I can't remember.

00:15:31.340 Felt like eternity to a kid.

00:15:33.440 So we lived just in a British neighborhood.

00:15:35.200 Cause my dad actually worked for the Royal air force for these three years.

00:15:38.600 He flew a spitfire.

00:15:39.920 He,

00:15:40.220 yeah,

00:15:40.540 more or less.

00:15:41.180 I mean,

00:15:41.420 he was Winston Churchill basically,

00:15:43.700 uh,

00:15:45.000 except he didn't fire bomb any civilians.

00:15:46.760 So,

00:15:47.180 uh,

00:15:48.160 he,

00:15:48.880 Oh,

00:15:49.220 Owen's trans favorite person,

00:15:51.420 known war criminal Winston Churchill.

00:15:54.660 Uh,

00:15:55.240 yeah,

00:15:55.540 he,

00:15:55.880 he worked for the royal air force so we were surrounded by british people you know british

00:16:01.660 people there in in england they you know they were uh they were constantly calling me a yank

00:16:05.900 but it was like their favorite years and i was like you're well yeah i am a yank it was like

00:16:11.540 95 to 98 so this is probably pre like little little india little pakistan oh it was all white

00:16:18.180 people yeah yeah like we didn't see hardly any muslims or indian i mean i think there were indians

00:16:24.900 that had some populations there at that point but not nearly what it is today we would go all over

00:16:31.000 the place it was awesome did they have rape gangs back then fewer that's weird yeah i don't know

00:16:36.320 that's correlation no no i think it's independent oh yeah well it's like you know all serial killers

00:16:43.120 eat bread but it's not the bread that caused it all countries with heavily third world and muslim

00:16:48.960 immigrations have rape gangs but it's not correlation doesn't equal causation yeah obviously

00:16:54.140 very different thing eric obviously yeah yeah you know it's interesting so yes i am basically a red

00:17:01.500 code yeah yeah i've established in conclusion in conclusion no we literally like our favorite

00:17:08.000 thing to do as kids the thing that got us absolutely hyped up was when every maybe three

00:17:14.660 or four months they were like guess what kids we're going on a day trip to uh to lake and heath

00:17:21.660 we're gonna go to the taco bell no there was a taco bell dude tacos back in the 90s were like

00:17:27.920 25 cents a piece was it just beans no it was american like they flew them in from texas or

00:17:35.420 something you know what i'm saying really yeah what what an authentic american experience man

00:17:39.860 And it was, it was so awesome when you, when that taco would hit, when that bean burrito

00:17:44.420 with no onions would hit, man, let me tell you, cut Brian right now is like, I would

00:17:52.400 start a war.

00:17:52.900 I would, that is my Helen of Troy.

00:17:57.040 That is my Helen of Troy right now.

00:17:59.780 Okay.

00:18:00.140 That is my Helen of Troy.

00:18:01.660 Taco Bell.

00:18:02.380 Oh man.

00:18:03.400 I would do some things to Taco Bell.

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00:19:52.540 and now let's transition back to the fourth of july what is it called again the 250th the

00:20:04.740 semi-quincentennial it's like a quintincent i don't know we went to public school yeah

00:20:09.740 yeah it means 250 years 250th anniversary let's call it that we actually got to spend some time

00:20:15.460 not too long ago in the boston area we did boston and one of the things i learned about boston

00:20:20.940 from actually Pastor Ben Garrett is that every single place you go is where they filmed the

00:20:27.820 departed. It was one of the greatest and worst things in my life ever was been no matter what

00:20:36.380 happened, looking out the window of the car or wherever we happen to be and saying that's the

00:20:41.920 7-Eleven where they filmed the departed, which I think especially our Bostonian hosts appreciated

00:20:48.700 that they really did um we're at walton pond and ben said this is the little cabin where they filmed

00:20:56.540 the departed and we're like that no it literally isn't this is where the transcendentalists were

00:21:01.780 doing their their stupid stuff actually this is louisa may alcott's house where they filmed the

00:21:07.300 and ended up asking the bookstore owner is this where they filmed the departed and they were like

00:21:13.840 no no please leave oh that's great uh brian 250 years of america cue a bald eagle sound

00:21:25.020 the bald eagle with like the uzis yeah america you know yep yep uh but it comes with a lot of

00:21:32.400 mixed emotions i think it absolutely does because of how great we are today as compared to how

00:21:37.540 that's not how i put it that's not how you put it no so walk me through that um just because

00:21:43.820 i remember this growing up and particularly in pietistic branches of the church where it was

00:21:49.480 like okay let's just denigrate it just like the left does yes we don't want to do that no um but

00:21:55.180 we're also still recognizing that yes there are real problems yes and we've strayed yeah one other

00:22:01.720 thing i think that's interesting i saw a commercial yesterday i was watching playoff hockey as one

00:22:07.400 does and it was really interesting because rachel mad cow was on there from cnn she's got mad cow

00:22:13.580 disease british you see the tie-in the tie-in yeah wow very good uh but she was like the first

00:22:18.920 amendment is about freedom of speech and here at cnn and i told my wife i was like i always love it

00:22:24.400 when the left pretends to care what the constitution when they're like oh constitution

00:22:29.180 a document we deeply treasure yes the first one not that well we don't actually treasure the first

00:22:34.740 one we just treasure the one we remade in the 1960s yes that's what they treasure yes so a lot

00:22:40.560 of baggage at this point in our history yeah but how do you process it yeah um speaking of mad cow

00:22:47.100 i can actually never give blood what like i can't donate blood because you get through the

00:22:53.260 questionnaire well basically you get through the questionnaire and it's like do any of these rare

00:22:57.200 circumstances apply to you did you live in the uk between this state and this state and i was in it

00:23:01.920 for like by six months i was there really so like lifelong i'm banned from because of my there's a

00:23:07.780 fear about mad cow yeah but to your actual question by the way mad cow and tapeworm great

00:23:13.720 ways to lose weight yeah you one of them kills you but well it's like you do lose weight in the

00:23:20.440 sense you decompose like into the constituent elements which constituted your body previously

00:23:26.380 america i think it's really really important that we do two things uh as as christian men

00:23:33.980 One of them is to tell the truth about our day and to say, yeah, we're not going to have some kind of thin triumphalism.

00:23:44.440 Yeah.

00:23:45.080 Where it's like we just ignore the problems of our nation because they're serious.

00:23:50.140 They're they are they're serious problems.

00:23:51.900 They are the result of besetting sins.

00:23:54.960 And if we don't address them.

00:23:58.340 Then we are cooked as a nation.

00:24:01.560 But at the same time, I love America, and I believe that a part of the virtue of the Christian is a civic virtue of patriotism, where he should seek to honor his forefathers, to love his people and his nation, and to promote, remember, celebrate the best aspects of his people.

00:24:26.820 While, of course, avoiding the sins and the follies and the temptations and tendencies of sin that his people is prone to walking in.

00:24:39.340 And so for us, that means that we do have to, we have to reject the pietism that would say, you know, patriotism is inherently idolatrous.

00:24:50.220 It's not true.

00:24:50.920 Love of the fatherland is a part of the fifth commandment to patriotism is Potter, father.

00:24:56.820 and reject the leftist insanity that would try to rewrite our history

00:25:03.100 to claim that we were, you know, some kind of amoral, vaguely deistic,

00:25:10.600 like, what a bunch of nonsense.

00:25:12.060 Yeah, it's sort of like rewriting history in, like, the secular humanist lens.

00:25:15.720 Yeah.

00:25:15.940 Even the stuff that Washington was just this ranked deist and Jefferson,

00:25:21.060 you know, like, we included it in the cold open,

00:25:24.340 but the you know washington's call to prayer yeah the thanksgiving declaration 1989 there's

00:25:29.680 actually a book i can't remember the name of it but something on fire but there's a book about

00:25:35.000 washington and like the argument is like why he was a christian man on fire denzel washington

00:25:39.380 well that's a great movie but it's a great movie actually yeah that's more about putting bombs

00:25:45.980 inside of drug dealers okay and blowing them i'm sorry that's a different i derailed you that's

00:25:51.820 true but washington also also denzel if washington had had the bomb technology that denzel did

00:25:58.060 by the way think about this he would have used it you know how everybody's mad right now about

00:26:02.760 uh they're redoing the the odyssey the odyssey yeah and they're you know they have like a tranny

00:26:08.800 playing achilles allegedly i hope it's not true i hope it's not tell me it ain't true nolan they

00:26:14.320 have like a sub-saharan african playing helen i think that is true pete like the woman people

00:26:18.860 went to war over and it's like some sub-saharan african lady you're like absolutely not that's

00:26:24.360 not what happened we used to be a proper country but it is interesting because i will make one

00:26:29.000 exception like you know denzel washington plays george if we're gonna race if we're gonna do it

00:26:37.040 at least get denzel you know what i'm saying it's got to be like russell crowe but he's gonna have

00:26:41.340 to lose like 200 pounds you got to go on a cut he's gonna have to go on a cut i call me up have

00:26:45.420 your people call my people mel gibson is george washington oh man yes let's go but i think this

00:26:51.640 is part of this broader cultural thing we've talked a lot about it in the past but this

00:26:57.640 disenchantment of the west and so really i feel like part of it is um just like somebody you know

00:27:03.800 maybe you're in that the middle intertestamental period and you're reading or hearing about moses

00:27:08.960 and and it might lead to reform because you're looking at that and you're saying wow we had a

00:27:13.840 great glory in previous generations and we've sinned and we've fallen from it maybe there

00:27:21.180 could be a civic renewal yeah which is part of this is the other point that i would probably

00:27:25.640 make this drives it just drives me insane when people talk about spiritual and civic renewal

00:27:32.940 as though they're like completely opposite things i'm like my question is always why can't we have

00:27:39.360 both yeah they go wouldn't a spiritual and civic renewal be tied together so i'm just curious your

00:27:44.500 thoughts yeah if righteousness exalts a nation and it does then spiritual renewal should bear

00:27:51.680 the fruit of civic renewal but it also works the other direction that when you have godly rulers

00:27:55.960 that are one of the constituent parts needed for civic renewal quite frankly

00:28:00.220 that downstream effect of the the city fathers the nation's fathers being righteous men yeah

00:28:08.780 is that it tends to produce righteous sons.

00:28:11.960 So it's this mutual interplay between both,

00:28:15.620 which is why the left and the satanic Marxists

00:28:20.980 and all of the wicked today,

00:28:23.700 one of the things they want to take from us

00:28:25.400 is a Christian founding.

00:28:27.940 But it's like, I can't remember who did this study,

00:28:30.520 but someone did a study of all the writings

00:28:32.140 of the founding fathers, basically.

00:28:35.380 And they basically looked at the references

00:28:38.360 that they made what sources did they cite and sure enough the number one thing that they cited

00:28:45.600 in their writings it wasn't deistic european enlightenment thinkers which was all the rage

00:28:51.380 at that time was it tony morrison no believe it or not no they they did cite european thinkers

00:28:57.760 and they cited you know men like that about 22 percent of the time i i think that i'm getting

00:29:01.920 these statistics right but they cited more than all of those people combined 34 of the time was

00:29:09.400 the christian bible interesting was the scriptures that was what they cited more than a third of the

00:29:14.600 time that they were citing any work at all it was the bible how much were they all of them combined

00:29:20.560 how much were they citing the talmud i think rarely i'm gonna go ahead and say not at all

00:29:30.340 Not like I really hope not at all.

00:29:33.300 I don't have that number off the top of my head.

00:29:35.620 It's actually not that.

00:29:37.260 Yeah, that's what one of the errors I think we have to correct.

00:29:40.500 We're making light of it.

00:29:41.520 But is the idea of a Judeo-Christian founding?

00:29:46.320 Oh, that's nonsense.

00:29:47.200 Yeah.

00:29:47.320 I mean, you have some of the guys with the Federalist Papers writing and they were like, this is explicitly for Christians, this nation.

00:29:52.980 Yeah.

00:29:53.380 And they even called out.

00:29:54.780 They said it's not for Jews.

00:29:56.540 It's not for Mohammedans.

00:29:57.940 this is a christian nation no when when washington signs off his thanksgiving address with

00:30:04.260 the year of our lord 1789 who is he talking about who is our lord jesus christ right when he talks

00:30:12.900 about the creator that they're referencing who is that it's jesus christ like 93 of the the signers

00:30:20.300 are christians you you certainly have some people who are playing fast and loose and who are

00:30:27.120 very much influenced by and you know deistics a handful but it's funny because even those men

00:30:34.840 they had to play within the rules of christianity they couldn't be openly hostile to the christian

00:30:43.340 faith because the nation was a christian nation yeah they would have been run out of the room

00:30:48.620 if they had attempted to say like oh we're just trying to establish some kind of you know neutral

00:30:53.460 melting pot where you know any the muhammadids maybe the barbary pirates we could bring in some

00:30:58.320 more of them like yeah it's kind of like all equal footing here in america they would have probably

00:31:04.060 shot them yeah well it's interesting too when we were in lexington and concord and yes the

00:31:13.080 bostonians corrected me it's not concord it's concord it's concord uh we went and we were kind

00:31:20.160 turing they have all this stuff for like thoreau and emerson and the transcendentalists and it is

00:31:27.220 funny because um you know you go through the library and you're like the greatest authors

00:31:31.540 that america has ever produced and like the quotes on the wall from these guys are like

00:31:35.980 they're like the moral law is not the standard by which we judge ourselves it is the feelings

00:31:41.260 of the heart which we must follow at all times and i was like this is even back then there was

00:31:47.800 a rot yeah bring up yeah a french revolution enlightenment rot was at work in the west

00:31:56.560 and so we do have seeds of it in the founding of america no doubt no doubt that's true but even if

00:32:05.520 you look at something like you know what was the political theory that was being promoted

00:32:10.560 by the enlightenment it was basically ruled by a kind of rationalist expert like a scientific

00:32:20.040 expert that was their big one of their big ideas we're going to try to like establish this rule by

00:32:24.700 scientific experts and that was meant specifically to replace religious moral yeah religious moral

00:32:30.820 moral rule uh it's replacing the king all these different things and and the founding fathers

00:32:36.800 though they weren't monarchists like they didn't establish an American monarchy they also didn't

00:32:42.520 establish that instead they established a federalist government and that itself relies upon

00:32:48.780 and assumes the existence of a Christian and moral people who are capable of rule of self-rule they

00:32:56.320 I mean they were explicit about this that the nation would not work if the people lost this

00:33:03.040 character. So what happened? We lost that character. That is why now like we've descended

00:33:10.280 into a kind of, you know, retarded democracy where we're ruled by idiots and we're ruled by

00:33:19.900 managerialism and we're ruled by all of these. Because if you lose the Christian and moral

00:33:24.240 character of the people, federalism doesn't work. It no longer, it assumes the people.

00:33:28.700 So you do see there is a point to be made about the seeds of the Enlightenment, about some of these corrosive ideologies that were on the rise in the 18th century and certainly have swept through the West.

00:33:44.360 But it wasn't the majority position of the founders.

00:33:47.660 Absolutely wasn't.

00:33:48.640 And it certainly wasn't the character of the people.

00:33:51.080 No, no.

00:33:51.840 The people were a deeply Christian people.

00:33:53.560 so it as with many stories in history like the glories are mixed with with tragedies

00:34:00.980 it's funny today too because people will say obviously the founders were imperfect which

00:34:05.200 obviously um but they one of the reasons they would cite is well because

00:34:09.620 they erred in not giving women the right to vote

00:34:12.600 did they though yeah see our published work well is it published yet on july 3rd probably not

00:34:22.480 no see our forthcoming leap to be published like such as the Iraq book such as the Iraq

00:34:28.980 on the long house that's a thing I know oh yeah it's a thing that book by the way I can't remember

00:34:35.820 when it's going to go into pre-order but I think it's pretty soon from this episode yeah I think

00:34:40.960 it is the most important book that we've published to date at New Christian Press so yeah I I think

00:34:48.080 that it is um you know there's a level where we have this discourse on social media and that's

00:34:53.360 good and a lot of that is aimed at like vibe type stuff owning the libs owning the libs vibes

00:34:59.180 drinking liberal tears you name it you remember that yes uh but i think it's also helpful to go

00:35:05.320 into kind of deeper argumentation uh for people who actually want to look into the history and a

00:35:10.800 lot of this too is tied to kind of the christian founding of america brian one question i have you

00:35:16.500 read a lot of the documents and a lot of the things that the men at that time said, including

00:35:21.400 George Washington, I, it's just funny to me because since the last couple of years, we've

00:35:27.780 had the Christian nationalism debates and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like a lot of these

00:35:33.260 guys, their arguments fall much more in line with the Christian nationalists today than the people

00:35:38.460 who oppose it. I would argue. Yes. Right. Yeah. I would argue. Yes. And, and Stephen, it's

00:35:44.600 interesting steven wolf uh he's not he's not even arguing in his book like kind of the seminal work

00:35:51.600 on on the subject he's not arguing for an anti-american political theory even oh not at all

00:35:58.780 he's he's also not arguing for just like a distinctly american this only applies to america

00:36:02.960 anything like that but in steven wolf's mind and i think he's correct um what he's promoting is

00:36:09.480 harmonious with the American founding and American governance and those kinds of things.

00:36:16.720 I think it actually is workable in various forms of government, to be clear.

00:36:24.060 But if you looked at the founders and you looked at their explicit aims and their writings

00:36:30.080 and what they were trying to accomplish, I would say it's inescapable that they were

00:36:35.780 trying to establish something like christian nationalism yeah you know and and i understand

00:36:42.080 like that the political history behind the idea of nationalism as a political theory and that kind

00:36:46.860 of yeah i understand all of that but if you just kind of look at the general shape of the thing

00:36:51.980 like a nation defending self-consciously defending itself as a nation and defending and promoting its

00:36:59.060 own earthly and heavenly good in accordance with that good defined by the christian faith

00:37:06.020 as a christian people that was the american founding well you know how uh today everybody

00:37:13.240 says something along the lines of like the purpose of a system is what it does so you could look at

00:37:18.820 what the founders set up trace it say through like 1950 and say well what was the purpose of

00:37:25.140 the system and there's a number of answers you could give but one of the interesting things to

00:37:30.300 me is that at the founding and then until even 1960 you had a pretty homogenous people in terms

00:37:38.340 of a mostly white christian nation um they had pretty consistent policies on immigration yeah

00:37:45.120 um things that we've since lost things have changed but then you say okay well for you know

00:37:52.600 at least 100 years after the founding this is kind of the trajectory that we kept it seems in

00:37:58.000 line with their purpose and function yeah and the cornerstone of that is christianity

00:38:02.760 that gets eroded over time but it would seem that if you're looking at that model like a system is

00:38:10.540 what it does yeah and you're saying well it seems like that was their intent yes because nobody was

00:38:16.200 like nobody was arguing for you know dei yes it was it was certainly their intent and it worked

00:38:24.400 for a long time and the things that made it stop working were many small incremental um acts of

00:38:32.380 works of conquest by enemies of christianity of god and of humanity like that's what we saw

00:38:39.020 where crafty enemies who understood what they were doing planned ahead to achieve their goals

00:38:46.060 and worked together across multiple generations,

00:38:49.580 worked the leaven of basically satanic ideology

00:38:54.660 through the people via institutional power.

00:39:00.020 So we're talking about the conquest of the media,

00:39:05.040 the conquest of the education system,

00:39:08.400 the conquest of, and you can fill in the blank

00:39:10.480 and look through all these different,

00:39:11.880 we talk a lot about culture forming

00:39:13.500 and culture gatekeeping institutions.

00:39:15.180 they captured those changed the dials fiddled with them to align them slowly with their aims

00:39:21.860 and so instead of having to accomplish some kind of violent revolution they accomplished a slow

00:39:29.420 revolution and i would say with one of the high watermarks and pinnacles of all of this activity

00:39:36.120 being the 1960s and everything that followed we referenced a second constitution you know

00:39:42.040 Obviously, the Civil Rights Act and the legislation that followed in the 1960s and beyond did function like a second constitution.

00:39:50.400 And then you see the purpose of the system is yet again what it does.

00:39:54.180 And what was the purpose of that system?

00:39:56.920 It was to completely erode and destroy the Christian character of the nation.

00:40:05.100 Yeah.

00:40:05.400 You had to do – I've already talked about the Longhouse book.

00:40:09.020 But in the Longhouse book, we talk about a lot of this.

00:40:12.040 you know, how it relates to feminism in that book and egalitarianism. But the Marxists understood

00:40:19.160 that they had to destroy the Christian character of the people if they were going to have a

00:40:22.980 successful revolution. Well, that was one of the interesting things I found was guys like Antonio

00:40:28.060 Gramsci. He had figured out, he said, the reason the Bolsheviks lost ultimately wasn't successful

00:40:35.280 in Russia, as he said, because the people were still Christians. And so he said, we have to

00:40:40.860 destroy the earthworks by which he meant cultural institutions it was also interesting because it's

00:40:46.760 like it's either him or george lucox i can't remember i think it might be lucox but like

00:40:51.080 the first thing he does as like you know czar in hungary or whatever is he introduces sex education

00:40:59.400 into schools yeah to like elementary school yeah to pervert the minds of children and through

00:41:04.960 sexual debauchery like yeah turn people away from christ um so you see that playing out today

00:41:11.140 one of the questions i would have is what value then do we study the founding as sort of just

00:41:18.220 this cool historical nostalgia i mean we happen to be it was like patriots day weekend in boston

00:41:24.420 they do the boston marathon the red sox play all that they have all these parades where they dress

00:41:29.340 up like you know colonial soldiers whatever but to me it has this like fakeness to it because the

00:41:36.580 people doing are like outright libs and they're like like their understanding of it today most of

00:41:42.600 the people is they freed us so that we could have gay marriage and trannies like you know what i

00:41:51.900 mean so we don't want to celebrate the founding and our founding fathers in this hollow way

00:41:56.020 but what would be an appropriate way to honor them is that carrying on their work today

00:42:02.440 and what does that look like because we're not repentance again like mark driscoll talked about

00:42:08.160 this with like a lot of like historical theology you know where it's like the gun collector where

00:42:13.860 you have these old guns on the wall and you say oh look how pretty it is but you never use them

00:42:17.340 yeah i'm maybe i'm getting at i'm more interested in like what could we learn from them so that we

00:42:23.300 could actually build things like they built yeah i mean it it comes it comes down to repentance

00:42:29.240 where we we really need to be stirred to repentance and also i think to be able to compare and contrast

00:42:35.560 and see what sanity looked like compared to insanity of today if you just comparing like

00:42:43.840 what did it look like in the these the outworking of the american founding in america as a christian

00:42:50.000 nation. It bore tremendously good fruit across the board, tremendously good fruit. I mean,

00:42:56.300 obviously we're, it's a mixed bag. Every, every people has their sin and have their particular

00:43:02.320 sins, but you just compare that to today and we are deeply confused, depressed and immoral.

00:43:09.780 So it's like, that should call us to repentance right there. I think for me though, the number

00:43:16.580 one thing is courage that's the thing that more than any other aspect of these stories that i

00:43:23.580 believe is important is courage like these men were willing to risk their lives and freedom

00:43:29.320 for what they viewed as absolutely important yeah like their people for the existence of

00:43:36.720 their people and the freedom of their people and all like that courage is the spirit that

00:43:43.280 it's a precondition of progress today.

00:43:49.320 Yeah.

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00:45:01.300 I think a lot about just been reading through the book of Acts and like the preaching.

00:45:05.760 And it's interesting how many times like Peter in the early chapters of Acts will say something like,

00:45:11.080 Basically, God sent us to you to call you to repent, you know, and then you you've been preaching through Corinthians and there can be this easy mistake where we say, yeah, but people today are way more debauched than they've ever been.

00:45:23.540 And so one of the things I think that was pivotal in the Revolutionary War, I know a lot of us don't want to actually call it that because it's not a revolution, but the war for independence was that you had all these preachers who were fiery principled guys.

00:45:41.080 first of all they knew how to put the cow in the battlefield

00:45:43.220 we're gonna have to explain that probably but just leave it on just leave it just just leave

00:45:50.660 it just listen yeah life direction for you put the cow in the battlefield the battlefield that's

00:45:56.620 what you need to do but i do think we need a generation of preachers who are willing to be

00:46:02.180 hated they're willing to preach against the sins of the day call people to national repentance yeah

00:46:07.140 and just count the cost of that you're talking about courage but like you're gonna have to

00:46:11.000 count the cost of that, that you probably won't get invited on the conference circuit tour if

00:46:16.320 you're going to preach that way. And maybe one example I'll give people think that it was like

00:46:22.180 arbitrary shock jock type behavior, rage baiting when we were addressing sexuality and modesty

00:46:29.600 online. Right. But think about this. We have a generation of like youth pastors and people who

00:46:37.320 are about the size of youth pastors own strand who are basically telling women like hey it's cool to

00:46:43.960 be in your underwear in public like do that as much as you want freedom in christ hey we have

00:46:48.980 freedom in christ dressed like a whore that's basically what the messaging has been so in light

00:46:54.720 of a post-1960s sexual revolution culture what would it mean for a pastor to say ladies i am

00:47:00.620 going to call you in the spirit of john calvin and richard baxter and chrysostom and the apostle

00:47:07.420 paul to adorn yourselves modestly like we're going to do that we we're going to be hated for it but

00:47:14.460 it is actually an important point it's in the scriptures all over the place we're going to

00:47:19.500 address that idol of the day and i would like to think fundamentally what we're aiming at is

00:47:25.140 part of that is civic renewal spiritual yes but also that when people are dressed immodestly in

00:47:32.120 public that has civic repercussions yeah and it is going to take men in particular quite a few men

00:47:40.640 coming to the basically that point where you say i'm done with this like even if it costs me

00:47:49.340 people hating me you know my my friends even if it costs me social standing i'm willing to just

00:47:57.700 say i'm not going to participate in that i'm just going to tell the truth about this thing yeah and

00:48:02.740 i do think one of the encouraging trends with the conservatism of young men like zoomers and under

00:48:14.380 is that I do wonder if things will change for the better

00:48:19.540 and if we will see some of these,

00:48:22.380 essentially like the fully grown form of idolatry

00:48:26.700 and apostasy and sins that we've planted

00:48:28.620 in the last few generations.

00:48:30.460 We've seen them come to their full flower and fruition

00:48:33.640 in a lot of ways with the sexual revolution

00:48:36.280 and its consequences, egalitarianism

00:48:38.260 and a lot of its consequences, et cetera.

00:48:40.660 And you just like, if Instagram reels

00:48:42.860 are any indicator, then there are at least a contingent of young men

00:48:49.180 who are absolutely unafraid of just absolutely making fun of these things

00:48:55.460 and saying, oh, that's ridiculous, like absolutely not.

00:48:58.520 I'm not going to participate, and then I'm going to tell the truth about that instead.

00:49:02.220 We need that to take place if we're going to make any change in the nation at all.

00:49:07.400 but it is interesting to see that there are glimmers of hope in that in ways that i would

00:49:15.380 have been more blackpilled about five ten years ago where do you see it in the young men yeah

00:49:20.280 in in like their willingness take feminism for example the willingness of young men

00:49:27.120 to tell the truth about the nature of men and women even like in a humorous way um the return

00:49:34.780 of joking about the way women are, which is hilarious and adorable. That's what women and

00:49:39.940 like, you know, women are like houseplants. You have to make, you have to water them regularly

00:49:45.080 because they forget to drink water. Like, like as simple as that, just like, which basically

00:49:52.080 sums to the idea that women should be led by men and that things go really poorly when they're not

00:49:59.300 led by men when they're led by themselves or by like other women a growing number of young

00:50:05.940 like teenage to 20 something men are to the point where they they will actually not only

00:50:12.780 notice that's true internally yeah but then say it out loud in ways that are shockingly transgressive

00:50:20.760 of the high water mark of the single rule by the single woke female yeah that to me is a really

00:50:27.320 positive trend now i'm i don't want to overblow it and say like yeah we're basically back to a

00:50:32.320 christian civic renewal i don't think that's true at all but that's at least a trend that i look at

00:50:37.220 and go hmm we could do something with this there's definitely more people i think in the younger

00:50:42.220 generations who are awake to the problem yeah um yeah and as you said that like there are certain

00:50:48.180 things i see online i'm like oh wow there was a there was a reel i saw the other day i can't

00:50:56.000 remember the guy. Maybe some of you have seen it as well. But he was talking about how in one of

00:51:02.300 the most insightful, but also hilarious ways I've ever heard, everything that makes women like

00:51:08.660 really good at something like teaching kindergarten is also how they approach political theory

00:51:15.220 and how it destroys everything. They're like, yeah, you know, two kids fighting over a crayon.

00:51:22.020 that's bad let's share the crayons and then they're like yeah um one nation is doing well

00:51:27.400 and has like good resources because they've had you know a disciplined moral people and then

00:51:32.040 there's like india that's india and and it's like well what if you know let's share everybody share

00:51:39.880 like you know america let it let the indians come sit at your table and it's like the instinct that

00:51:45.160 actually kind of worked to govern four-year-olds in a small group uh with respect to coloring

00:51:52.000 it doesn't actually work the same way when you advance the principle to the level of nation

00:51:59.780 of global politics yes and it was like yet another example of probably some guy in his 20s that i

00:52:08.440 just thought back to like 2017 any guy that had made that video and tried to put it online

00:52:15.080 first of all you'd probably not even be able to get it online for very long and now this is like

00:52:20.780 a reel on instagram that's been shared by a you know a zillion people and that guy's probably

00:52:26.200 like actually instagram's probably paying that guy even that payout super hilarious old commercial

00:52:31.420 i think it's a commercial i don't know what it's for but it's like a cartoon but it's talking about

00:52:35.500 the nations of the world it's kind of like i know making fun of them well i looked it up because i

00:52:41.160 like where does this come from yeah i'm just curious it was on youtube but it has like 50

00:52:45.820 warning labels on it about like how racist it is is it the one where it's like going around the

00:52:50.960 different peoples in a song and it's like ching ching ching ching ching ching ching and then it

00:52:54.980 does it's like african it's like ooga booga boo and then i think like uh the mexicans are like

00:53:01.120 y nacho taco y chimichanga you're bringing this up to talk about how

00:53:05.760 well what harmful to the imago day it is right yeah no um but what's interesting so this is what

00:53:13.500 i'm saying the past generation found that video like wildly offensive but that compared to like

00:53:19.040 zoomer reels is nothing it's like child's play they would look at it and go huh they're like

00:53:25.140 oh yeah okay that's kind of mild even the old uh it was johnny bravo it was like a cartoon network

00:53:31.480 uh show i think it's pretty old i mean i remember from my childhood so yeah it's a ways back but

00:53:39.940 like they have the one where they're talking about the 19th amendment and the lady's like

00:53:43.640 instructing yeah yeah it's super hilarious and she's like now the 19th amendment gave women the

00:53:49.300 right to vote and this is why we did it and then johnny bravo just goes now why would you go and do

00:53:54.220 that well johnny bravo had a point we used to be a proper country so yeah i think that that

00:54:01.460 trend is changing um i also think that there is more on the ecclesiastical side of pastors

00:54:07.900 who are starting to see these problems and say hey maybe we we need to address them

00:54:12.600 there's a resurgence certainly in like national political conversation

00:54:17.520 that's not i guess i would say it's not within just the pale of

00:54:22.360 neoconservatism anymore um you sort of have like the rising nick fuentes crowd and

00:54:28.180 there's a lot more conversation yeah we certainly see more popular and resonating like a nationalist

00:54:35.820 america first kind of spirit that has a large overlap with the recognition of the christian

00:54:44.040 character of america and the need for a renewal of the christian character of america these all

00:54:48.200 give me hope i still when i look at the overall landscape there's like in two wolves inside of me

00:54:54.200 the one wolf is wildly idealistic and he's like we need to raise everything down to the ground

00:55:05.040 and rebuild from the level of principle because we just have so much compromise yeah with

00:55:11.480 all of these corrosive ideologies like feminism and egalitarianism even in the conservative

00:55:18.000 movement i think that's true even in the america first world even in the political punditry like

00:55:23.260 the amount of sexual degeneracy that's present the amount of absolute moral idiocy that is

00:55:32.460 involved in conservative punditry is crazy we have i mean we're just not immune to it it's

00:55:40.800 everywhere everything from like let's promote lady boss babes in conservative politics and

00:55:46.460 ironically they're going to tell us like why women should get married and have children like this but

00:55:50.220 what what the heck it's not to like the gaze to all i mean we just have so much compromise that

00:55:58.220 the ideological wolf inside of me is like raise it to the ground and rebuild um from the level

00:56:04.980 of principle and then there's the other wolf inside of me that's like yeah but at the same time

00:56:09.460 there is such thing as um politics in the real world and there's the reality that the art of

00:56:18.220 the political is not going to achieve by itself pure ideological purity all the way down it's

00:56:24.160 just not and so like we are dealing in the real world where it i would still like to see our

00:56:28.800 nation move in directions at least that are better and more conducive to uh coherent social life for

00:56:36.560 my grandchildren than not recognizing that apart from god's i mean massive mercy and

00:56:46.880 And the revival of the Christian church, we won't see perfection like we're not going to see.

00:56:55.300 And even in this life, we're not going to see perfection, obviously, as we know.

00:56:59.440 So those two wolves sometimes fight between optimism and pessimism and also optimism and rage, I would say, is part of it.

00:57:10.200 And I don't know.

00:57:11.880 It's hard to say where we stand exactly.

00:57:13.820 Yeah.

00:57:14.300 Yeah. Well, I think there was a lot of optimism early on with, like, say, Trump.

00:57:20.260 And then we sort of got what we always get.

00:57:24.400 And so I think people are naturally more, maybe more of a realist position about that.

00:57:31.220 Yeah, both of them kind of, I think, are ditches you want to avoid.

00:57:34.360 One that drives me nuts, obviously, is the blackpilling.

00:57:37.960 The accelerationist view, like, I hope we just, you know, fall into civil war or something.

00:57:42.840 I'm like, actually, that would be horrible.

00:57:44.040 i don't but on the other hand we've we've talked to people recently um that's just been coming up

00:57:50.740 more and more where there's also a constituent where they're like oh we are on the brink of

00:57:54.960 taking everything back like tomorrow and i'm like we're not i i just don't even think that's

00:57:59.500 realistic instead if you look you know trump's a good example if you look look at trump pretty

00:58:04.660 much any way that you try to read him through an absolutist ideological lens it just won't work

00:58:09.320 and I mean in all directions

00:58:11.540 if you're like Trump is just

00:58:13.960 a shill for Israel

00:58:15.340 and he's just on Bibi's leash

00:58:18.120 and he just does everything

00:58:20.020 Bibi Netanyahu wants and that's all he does

00:58:22.020 every single aspect of his agenda is just

00:58:24.320 driven by Zionism

00:58:26.120 every single thing he does

00:58:27.340 that doesn't stand up to scrutiny

00:58:30.560 it's not

00:58:32.220 Trump's operative policy

00:58:33.700 Trump as a person it seems much

00:58:36.220 more like his absolute principle is

00:58:38.180 himself

00:58:39.260 in the glory of Trump that seems to be his absolute principle you know he's so I don't

00:58:45.920 think that works I don't think you can read everything he does through that lens and at

00:58:49.700 the same time I don't think you can so so from that perspective it's like everything he does is

00:58:56.140 just more of the same there's been no progress whatsoever etc etc I'm like I don't think that's

00:59:01.180 true I think we have made progress in several areas I think he's had key strategic victories

00:59:06.940 But Trump seems to operate within a tactical landscape where his principles are fairly fluid in a lot of ways.

00:59:13.860 And he's just attempting to achieve the closest to his ultimate goal of the name of Trump being glorious as possible.

00:59:23.140 But the other ideological lenses you might look at him through also don't work.

00:59:27.680 You just can't reduce the real world to conformity to just some very one-dimensional absolutist ideological perspective.

00:59:37.920 I don't think you can do that.

00:59:39.080 I think history is way more complicated than that.

00:59:41.780 And the political reality is way more complicated than that.

00:59:45.160 American politics is very complicated.

00:59:47.420 and even the scale like when i look at the cold open the difference in scale between what we were

00:59:55.640 dealing with in colonial america and what we're dealing with in america today is on another level

01:00:03.300 look at i mean like we're talking about 2500 troops yeah in different key battles that turned

01:00:08.460 the amer you know the history of america we're talking about like thousands of people and today

01:00:13.620 we're talking about hundreds of millions of people yeah right um then we were talking about

01:00:19.840 you know amounts of wealth that were large for the scale of the time and the amount of people

01:00:24.700 sure and yeah but today we're talking about global economic systems and hundreds of millions

01:00:30.300 like the the complexity of executive leadership of america today the task of the president

01:00:38.420 is insane. It is so massive. We are talking about an empire. We're talking about an empire that is

01:00:47.980 on a scale that dwarfs some of the great empires of the past. I think it certainly dwarfs the Roman

01:00:56.420 Empire or dwarfs the, you know, empires of the ancient Near East. Like we could look at

01:01:01.740 the comparison and scale. And with that scale comes complexity and it becomes the kind of story

01:01:08.980 that only God can understand fully. So the task of one man, like though one man can change history

01:01:17.460 and it's good for us to even aim to be great men and desire that God would raise up a great man

01:01:24.260 or great men that would change the course of history. We do have to recognize that this is

01:01:31.260 not a simple thing it's not a simple it's not as simple as just like if i could get my one pet

01:01:36.740 political piece of political ideology passed would fix everything it's not how it's not where we're

01:01:43.180 at in in history today no i think a lot too about um i think at the conference in boston somebody

01:01:51.660 asked us like you know where the great man do you think great men will come and i've been thinking

01:01:56.640 about that yeah and i think you have to create the context for the great man yeah meaning you

01:02:01.540 have to have institutions that would actually produce that in ecosystems communities cultures

01:02:06.660 think about the guild programs of the ancient world yeah um you know augustine is close enough

01:02:13.000 to the thinkers of greece and rome that like philosophy was still a big part of life and they

01:02:19.800 had entire centers of learning that would produce that kind of man i was thinking about america and

01:02:25.580 And I was like, okay, think about the 20th century.

01:02:27.940 If you think about any great men, usually it's business leaders.

01:02:32.780 And why is that?

01:02:34.080 It's because America is so commercially driven.

01:02:37.600 But even theologians, what great theologians on the world historical scene has America produced?

01:02:47.680 I think there's some who are pretty good.

01:02:50.760 They're usually older, so it's going to be like a Dabner, a Thornwell.

01:02:54.400 it's probably going to be from the south some people will say jonathan edwards and i would say

01:02:59.180 he's he's probably among the ones we've created some of the best but like does jonathan edwards

01:03:06.600 compare to like calvin probably not in terms of total impact certainly impacted america

01:03:15.440 but i just look at that and i think well it's because we don't even have the kind of institutions

01:03:21.180 that are aiming to produce that sort of thinker or that sort of mind yeah um so that's where i'm

01:03:28.080 thinking like i don't know we do have to do seed work yeah always generational work i think a lot

01:03:36.600 about elite theory and elite formation um do we have the kind of communities that could produce

01:03:42.120 that now like yale harvard are they going to produce great business minds today maybe

01:03:48.080 are they going to produce like great classical thinkers absolutely not no no we it's it's why

01:03:56.060 one of the most important things that we could do even with something like the king's hall like

01:04:00.160 what are we trying to accomplish here i would love to just activate

01:04:05.960 many men to pursue concrete political action yeah that's one of the things that i've been

01:04:14.780 thinking about this a lot like what what is the so what what do we do and and i would want to boil

01:04:21.340 it down to concrete action of the economic or political or ecclesiastical i think those are

01:04:27.600 fine like any of those spheres depending on who you are what your gifts are what you're called to

01:04:31.140 do i would really want to encourage men to ruthlessly think in the concrete what can i

01:04:38.100 actually do i can't remember if i mentioned on the king's hall recently but steven wolf had a tweet

01:04:42.100 he was talking about um how political preaching can function and i think podcasts i think

01:04:51.160 political preaching in general can function like this where you have a pressure release valve

01:04:57.800 where everybody listens to something and they're like yeah they and we we get right we get riled

01:05:03.060 up about being mad about something we say this is bad and then we say like and that's bad and

01:05:08.580 We condemn it.

01:05:09.160 We say it's really bad.

01:05:10.020 We should stop doing really bad thing.

01:05:12.080 And that's actually good.

01:05:13.240 We should start with that.

01:05:14.360 That's not a bad thing,

01:05:15.320 but it can become really destructive if it functions as a release valve,

01:05:20.240 a pressure release valve that prevents us from actually taking action.

01:05:24.180 This is sort of like the conservative AM radio host where people listen to it.

01:05:30.040 They feel like they let some steam off.

01:05:32.000 Somebody agrees with them, but then you don't do anything.

01:05:36.220 Yeah, like ask the question, why was TPUSA one of the greatest political organizations built in recent memory?

01:05:43.000 And it was.

01:05:45.040 And the answer is obvious.

01:05:48.800 Because Charlie Kirk and TPUSA excelled at translating words into concrete political action.

01:05:57.200 They were masters of developing concrete voter turnout mechanisms in key areas of America.

01:06:03.920 You don't get President Trump without that.

01:06:06.220 It just doesn't happen, but it shows you what an organization that does do words like TPSA is about words.

01:06:12.080 Charlie Kirk is about words. He's doing words. He's not like wielding a sword or wearing a crown.

01:06:19.020 He's using words and media, too. But it was translated in a concrete local political action where they were attempting to get people to take an action that actually affected something in the real world.

01:06:30.440 Yeah. So great example of like concrete political action. We need to be thinking in those terms where you're like, we need more moving from problem, not immediately to let me then describe what the ideal world would look like where this problem was solved.

01:06:47.700 and then think that you've done much because you haven't done much what you actually need to do is

01:06:53.860 recognize that between this point a and point b there are 78 steps that a million and a half

01:07:02.020 people or a hundred thousand people and if it's a local or 10 000 people if it's a small town or

01:07:06.700 20 people if it's a church or two people if it's a family or you yourself if it's just a problem

01:07:12.240 that you have need to actually take to get from we have now correctly identified the problem

01:07:17.520 to yeah we do want to have a description that's adequate at least adequate enough of the ideal

01:07:22.780 future state aspirational future state that we could like point somewhere have a compass bearing

01:07:27.460 but if we don't recognize waypoints along the way and then act concretely to achieve those waypoints

01:07:34.400 we are just engaging in political masturbation or ecclesiastical masturbation that's what we're

01:07:41.820 doing it's not going to produce anything so when i think about what do we need today

01:07:47.980 the answer again think we're talking about first of all something vast the american global empire

01:07:55.240 so it's probably not just gonna be one thing there's probably gonna be about 100 million

01:08:00.500 different things our job needs to be figuring out and i mean our job and i mean everybody

01:08:05.660 listening to this. Our job is to figure out what my role is, what my gifts are, what my opportunities

01:08:12.480 are, what the potential things I could actually do are. And then I need to do them. I need to

01:08:20.360 actually do them. I need to band together and do them. So I think about for us, just as a concrete

01:08:24.620 example, and not to toot our own horn, because this is, I think, something that has, I've been

01:08:28.980 thinking about a lot and realizing, oh, that's what I was doing here. I missed here. We need

01:08:34.980 more of this and less of that however when i think about anything concrete that has been successful

01:08:40.580 for us like where i think of the ogden community as kind of like the resume why should anybody care

01:08:49.420 what we have to say about anything well they should care more about some things we're saying

01:08:54.700 if they are the to the degree that they are more connected to actual things that have been produced

01:08:58.800 in our orbit that's just 101 that's like looking to the fruit so when you know you look at where

01:09:06.120 we started 10 15 years ago and where we are today i can point to key areas where i think we've made

01:09:12.960 significant practical headway against the spirit of the age and some of these satanic ideologies

01:09:19.140 in our midst and you can say like here's the proof of concept yeah it's it's not to scale there's

01:09:24.020 like 500 people, not 500,000 people involved in the actual local community.

01:09:28.140 All that's true.

01:09:29.200 But I can say things like, okay, how to defeminize your church

01:09:33.560 or community organization or business or whatever.

01:09:36.660 That's really important.

01:09:37.460 People need to figure out how to do that.

01:09:39.480 Why should you listen to Brian Sylvain and Eric Kahn talk about that?

01:09:42.340 Because we've actually done it.

01:09:43.100 Because we've done it.

01:09:43.740 Our church is not feminist.

01:09:45.660 And it's like deeply not feminist.

01:09:47.040 It's wildly and offensively not feminist to the point where Antifa protests us.

01:09:51.120 So what do we do to accomplish that?

01:09:52.880 And there have been not just pure ideology floating in midair.

01:09:57.120 There were hard, costly decisions, hard, costly, concrete action taken, not just by leaders, but by many in our community and our fathers and mothers.

01:10:07.440 And yeah, OK, there are areas like that we could look to.

01:10:11.600 And so the more that I think about the like what to so what question of life, the more I just come back to that.

01:10:18.160 okay, Stephen Wolf was actually getting at one of the most important principles we need to

01:10:21.920 understand in conservatism. It's our tendency to use words as a release valve and never move to

01:10:28.660 concrete action. So where have we, and this is a personal assessment that I need to do constantly,

01:10:36.720 we need to do at New Christian Press and at Refuge Church in our community, and you need to do

01:10:40.940 wherever you are, where am I letting words be a release valve to prevent me from taking concrete

01:10:46.360 action and then here's the neat part figure out what the concrete action would look like

01:10:51.360 between 0.1 and 0.78 the ideal future aspirational state and take step one and then step two and

01:10:59.180 then step three and bear the cost and you're going to learn things and you're going to figure stuff

01:11:03.320 out this is why ideologues um they frustrate me and and i get back to the whole like trump is

01:11:11.060 either a zero percent or a hundred percent guy that kind of thinking he's either like owned by

01:11:16.760 israel completely and everything that he does is explicable through that one principle or he's you

01:11:21.500 know always playing 60 chess yeah 100 like 60 chess kind of guy i'm like the answer is somewhere

01:11:26.700 in the middle and it's it's not just a middle road third way type of thing it's just that this

01:11:31.260 is how the world works given the 50 different things that the executive of the united states

01:11:35.700 is responsible for. He's getting some kind of grade on all 50 of them. In some places,

01:11:41.040 he's probably getting a D minus. In some places, he's probably getting a B plus. And let's not act

01:11:44.880 like it's an F or an A plus type of thing because that type of thinking doesn't work in your life

01:11:51.920 either or anything that you have actual concrete. What this really looks like is that V1.0 of any

01:12:00.620 attempt to make concrete action in your life is not likely to be the perfect and final form of

01:12:06.000 that thing once you've learned a lot along the way. So V1.0 of Refuge Church and our community

01:12:11.760 becoming Let's Deal With Feminism looks really, frankly, quite gay compared to where we're at

01:12:17.160 today. Yeah. Because we didn't know like 83% of the stuff we know today. But it didn't mean that

01:12:24.600 it was useless it was actually a really important step one we're at like probably v 6.3 or something

01:12:31.600 like that along the generate like if it's iphone we're we're iphone 11 maybe i don't know like

01:12:36.500 and there's going to be an iphone iphones continue forever there will be an iphone 1034 like you know

01:12:42.920 some point in the future that's the type of thing i'm thinking about right now yeah a whole lot

01:12:49.840 applied to the church, our business, the economics of our community, the school that we operate.

01:12:57.320 And I just think so many men and women too, they are not understanding how much this ideological

01:13:09.080 and masturbatory thinking is preventing them from accomplishing anything in the real world.

01:13:13.660 they're not willing to go through v1 1.1 1.3 2.0 2.3 and take the translate those ideological

01:13:23.420 principles into some concrete action today and a lot of the time they don't do it because they're

01:13:30.160 so overwhelmed with the reality which is quite true that they're not god and can't fix everything

01:13:34.500 well that's true you're not god but you know what you are a man or a woman with some corner of god's

01:13:43.000 creation with your name on it so what is step one for you and there's like 50 step ones because

01:13:49.560 there's a lot of different aspects of being human that you you know operate in yeah i also think

01:13:54.060 like maybe on the other side of it part of the danger so you're describing part of the danger

01:13:58.260 is like maybe a community like ours if you had like nobody engaging in political action yeah that

01:14:05.040 would be an error one of the other errors though is a lot of guys who shouldn't be involved in

01:14:09.800 political action or shouldn't start there. And thinking that like some political action is going

01:14:15.800 to solve everything, but like their family's a mess. And so I think what we've tried to do is

01:14:20.680 say like, we need to do all of that, but it has a tier system in terms of order. Yes. Right. So

01:14:28.260 we're saying like, okay, get your family in order so that you can be more beneficial to your church

01:14:32.980 and to your community. And then you have opportunities outside of those. Like think

01:14:38.280 of it in the priority that scripture puts on it um it the family really is a small commonwealth

01:14:44.060 yeah so if you want to change the broader nation your family can't be a wreck yeah william goug the

01:14:49.820 family is a little church and a little commonwealth uh it's a little nation even within we i mean i

01:14:56.360 just did a whole like 1035 part series on bright hearth about this but um about four aspects of

01:15:03.780 human life. So you can even start with yourself, the physical, the spiritual, the social and the

01:15:11.100 vocational. And you can look through these aspects of your own life and say like, oh,

01:15:14.760 if I'm going to get my family in order, my mind better be in order. If I'm going to get my family

01:15:18.920 in order, my body to some degree must be in order. I can't be a fat, lazy slob. Hence week 24 of the

01:15:26.360 cut as we sit here. You know what I'm saying? Like I knew I could work it in. You get yourself

01:15:30.660 in order, you get your family in order, you get your finances in order, you get your church in

01:15:33.360 order you get your what you get your actually get your family worship in order you get like you get

01:15:37.540 all these things in order and not having them in order absolutely to the ideal standard you will

01:15:43.760 achieve in glory is not a is not actually a good reason not to do step 1.0 but i feel like that

01:15:50.040 that is the thing doing all those is what gives you the courage and competence to then say

01:15:55.340 i can show up to my city council meeting right people skip all those and they just try to yeah

01:16:01.020 exactly so you want to get that in the right order but but i'm even thinking like i'm encouraged when

01:16:06.960 i see because this was going on recently in the local area with these massive data centers kevin

01:16:13.260 o'leary's data center yeah they want to put a data center in here that takes more power than

01:16:17.400 like the state of new jersey it's bigger than manhattan yeah and the building i was actually

01:16:22.820 encouraged because i was talking to some of the men in the community who have great families they

01:16:26.580 run businesses and they were filling me in on it. And they said, we went to the meeting

01:16:31.780 and like, we're weighing in. Um, I love to see that. Love to see that. Uh, we need more people

01:16:37.820 who are engaged in that way, but, but it also fits because you're like, yeah, your family's

01:16:41.540 also a model family in the community. It's example of not setting your eyes too high.

01:16:46.300 Yeah. Um, most of us, like, this is what I want to relentlessly ask people who are bent towards

01:16:54.760 the ideological and words without any translation into concrete action. I always want to ask them,

01:17:02.740 okay, let's take something Trump did that you don't like. Tell me what he should have done.

01:17:09.360 And do you, you know how quickly you find the thinness of people's ideological understanding?

01:17:14.920 Yeah. Okay. What should he have done? He should have done. And then they'll say something that's

01:17:20.260 either totally impossible like he literally could not have done that it was not on the op like if

01:17:25.800 you say for example you know what trump should have done he should have just got rid of 100

01:17:30.260 million people tomorrow okay how concretely tell me tell me the steps between that and that

01:17:37.820 and i'm not saying that he's getting an a plus on immigration or on getting rid of illegals or d

01:17:44.520 third world if i'm not saying that people will hear that and they'll be like you know brian's

01:17:48.280 He thinks Trump's getting an A plus.

01:17:49.880 No, I don't.

01:17:50.960 But I do think that if we're going to criticize it,

01:17:55.120 we should actually have some kind of understanding of like,

01:17:57.240 what would step 1.0 be?

01:17:59.420 This is also why I think that we need, I sense this all the time.

01:18:03.640 I'm not a political expert.

01:18:05.680 I'm a pastor.

01:18:07.540 And so we're trying to, again,

01:18:09.900 encourage and point people in the direction of like,

01:18:12.300 we need political elites who are on our team.

01:18:14.740 Yeah.

01:18:15.240 And I am encouraged a lot of times.

01:18:16.680 you'll talk to guys um and they're working political strategies in a local area they know

01:18:22.120 how politics works they get people elected to certain positions and then i look at it and i

01:18:27.960 say well in the political i actually need a guy like that telling me what to do because uh that's

01:18:34.960 also part of the era i think of sort of like reformed little world that we've been in is where

01:18:39.680 it's like the illusion of an omnicompetent pastor yeah yeah where he knows everything about all

01:18:46.280 things at all times and he has to be confident in all of them yeah whereas we we need steven

01:18:51.940 wolfs we need guys who are then taking those ideas and saying here are three things we could

01:18:58.020 do in our local area to affect change and so i think encouraging that and maybe the way that

01:19:04.480 looks in the church today is by not a denigrating that work yeah not and not like discouraging those

01:19:12.040 men like well that's not the spiritual kingdom brother you know yeah these are earthly things

01:19:16.820 paul said to set your mind on heavenly things and here you are worried about the city council

01:19:21.480 yeah why whoa what an idolatrous thing to do so we kind of we we need both there's a lot of that

01:19:29.080 i do want to encourage people though to check that out on bright hearth um so that at this

01:19:33.820 point should all be out yeah that series done we're actually now in a series um about what

01:19:40.160 everything wrong with women, uh, which is also, I think helpful, but that series was like over 20

01:19:46.080 parts. I think if it's, if you're able to help people, this is a Jordan Peterson, like start

01:19:52.420 by making your own bed and then you'll, you'll get this weight of your life of like, I actually

01:19:57.640 took responsibility for something that I could change. And that gives me momentum then to step

01:20:03.100 out and do something else too. And that series is very practical. Yeah. So in all of those

01:20:08.480 different areas we talk about things like not being a fat slob and how and it's very practical

01:20:14.040 like and again from experience i'm not telling you stuff that's just a theoretical i know how

01:20:18.600 hard it is i've done it myself at least you know twice at this point i've ridden the wave of man

01:20:24.280 the wave up is fun the wave the ride down is tumultuous um on that or uh we're social like

01:20:33.720 How to not be socially so awkward that you have no friends and influence nobody?

01:20:39.460 That's a skill to be learned.

01:20:41.780 We're talking very practically about those different aspects.

01:20:44.140 It's a whole, the show is in the spirit of Titus 2.

01:20:47.040 Older men teach the younger men, older women teach the younger women.

01:20:50.700 So it's very focused on the practical.

01:20:53.160 But I do think that that is a prerequisite for us to have greatest possible efficacy

01:20:59.020 in something like the political realm.

01:21:01.020 is we have to demonstrate the ability to produce cultures that can make functional men and women

01:21:07.460 functional households again this is why to me the people of refuge church in our community

01:21:14.540 are the most important thing in my life we rise or fall on whether or not we love these people

01:21:22.640 well shepherd them well in our spheres and also other others in the community in various other

01:21:27.820 spheres grow up and produce good fruit in their endeavors that's the thing on that separates like

01:21:34.600 should you listen to eric and brian at all to me yeah it it really comes down to that and that

01:21:40.380 foundation work is the thing that people think you do it once they don't really say this out loud but

01:21:45.440 i think we operate this way oh i already talked about that i already figured that thing out

01:21:50.580 but real leadership in a community whether it's yourself your home your extended family your

01:21:55.560 church your business whatever it's actually constant maintenance 80 percent of the time on

01:22:00.680 the basic stuff because it's constantly wanting to get out of order weeds constantly growing your

01:22:06.520 garden air constantly leaks out of your tires like you've got to keep constant maintenance on the

01:22:12.820 basic things and those are what enable you to have a growing foundation that can produce other things

01:22:19.900 on top of those basic things.

01:22:22.460 And one of the reasons I think we get this so wrong

01:22:24.940 often in the church is because we have an illusion

01:22:28.260 that correct knowledge translates automatically

01:22:32.540 into that that's an end in itself.

01:22:37.180 Because doctrine genuinely is like this on one level

01:22:41.240 where you can go from being in error about a thing

01:22:44.780 to being aligned with truth in a split second.

01:22:49.900 you didn't know how accurately to understand the triune nature of God.

01:22:56.360 And then you read a book and you do some work and you talk to a well-grounded

01:23:01.240 pastor or theologian. And you're like,

01:23:02.400 I have a good understanding of what it means to confess the triune God.

01:23:06.840 And you have fixed that knowledge issue and it's genuinely fixed. There's it's

01:23:11.180 fixed. All right.

01:23:13.240 That is totally different from obeying knowledge and putting it into practice.

01:23:18.700 so you can not every category of knowledge is like that having a correct understanding of a

01:23:23.660 political problem and what it would look like for that problem to be solved isn't solving that

01:23:28.080 problem the same way that coming to more accurate understanding of the trinity is solving your

01:23:33.680 trinitarian problem does that make sense it's like that step it's important to understand what

01:23:39.660 kind of knowledge you're dealing with and if that knowledge actually for it you to obey it needs to

01:23:45.480 be translated into some kind of concrete action. Yeah. And what that action would be and then how

01:23:50.060 to assess whether I'm succeeding or not at that action. So I think what you're saying is if you

01:23:56.260 listen to this podcast, that alone is not enough. No, that's enough. Just listen to podcasts. That's

01:24:01.880 all that politics is. But if they sign up for Patreon, then they have done enough. Signing

01:24:06.980 that is the political action no like people can i because i am a word person that's actually what

01:24:17.180 god gifted me in i'm a word person and so a lot of my jobs actually just because that's how

01:24:23.320 gifting works if you're a building person like an engineer or a maintenance guy or a construction

01:24:30.020 worker like you don't succeed just by thinking about two by fours you actually have to put them

01:24:35.080 in the right shapes no way and stuff i've heard that's wild me working on like um framing a house

01:24:41.700 it would be like that reel of the guy watching the chimpanzee it's just like trying to sob he's

01:24:48.080 like trying to look interested it's always captioned like me watching my wife try to do a

01:24:51.900 home improvement project like i figured out how to do some stuff in terms of that but it's not my

01:24:56.740 primary thing my i do a lot of word stuff like shepherding is there's a lot of words involved

01:25:01.360 even even hands-on shepherding teaching preaching new christian press it's word stuff so one of the

01:25:06.520 tendencies that i have to watch out for is forgetting that the words are just one role

01:25:15.080 in the thing words are really important we shouldn't lose that words leadership direction

01:25:21.680 momentum political speech all of these things are very important they can one sentence properly

01:25:29.360 understood and applied can change your whole life and generations. That's how powerful words

01:25:34.100 are. They're very important. And yet we have to remember constantly that when the word people

01:25:42.720 have finished with their words, the job isn't done. When the great man finishes giving the

01:25:49.480 great political speech that marks a turning point in history, where those words generally were

01:25:54.580 responsible to a large extent to changing history, it wasn't because the words were all their

01:25:59.280 that happened the words motivated people to do concrete things that's the step i think we just

01:26:09.940 miss again and again and again and again and again in personal life family life church life political

01:26:14.780 life local life national life kind of all the way up and down yeah that translation it's putting the

01:26:20.960 engine in gear whatever metaphor you want that's what we've what we tend to miss in conservatism

01:26:26.160 liberals actually they fall in that ditch too but when they've won and gained huge ground

01:26:32.920 it's because they were really good at that they're actually good at the grassroots game

01:26:37.920 their ground game was good they didn't just philosophize about putting the cow in the

01:26:41.600 battlefield they put the cow in them again it's it's why i look at charlie kirk i look at tp usa

01:26:46.480 and i'm like you could point at 10 things where i'm like yeah charlie kirk was kind of soft on

01:26:51.000 that thing or whatever but they did something concrete that changed the nation how many of our

01:27:00.380 guys have done that some of them but we should get we should those are rookie numbers we should

01:27:05.420 pump those numbers we gotta pump them up yeah that's good well brian it's been a great episode

01:27:09.720 uh you know happy 250th tomorrow happy 250th to you tomorrow once this airs tomorrow once this

01:27:17.040 airs. Yeah. My album will have been out for a month by the time this airs. So I hope you're

01:27:21.360 enjoying it. Yeah. It's not even out as we record this. So yeah, that's wild to think about, but

01:27:26.300 very exciting. Um, listeners can be on the lookout for the long house book. Yeah. That should be

01:27:32.600 close to pre-orders. So as we record this, we are in the deep past, obviously, as you can tell,

01:27:40.080 uh of may of 2026 but uh when this episode comes out in july i know we will have several books that

01:27:48.440 are either out in shipping in pre-order or soon to be in pre-order those are books like the

01:27:53.480 productive household with adam madden that you've already heard about that's already been shipping

01:27:57.460 it out for a while we've got a great practical handbook on killing lust and pornography issues

01:28:03.320 from pastor ben garrett we have a book from andrew isker coming out it's either in pre-order

01:28:09.740 or close at this point on Israel and Zionism.

01:28:13.660 It's called the seed of Abraham.

01:28:14.500 I believe I'm pretty sure I'm getting that title right at this point in the deep past.

01:28:18.120 And then the book we've been talking about in this episode that Eric and I have been

01:28:21.480 working on for some time on the longhouse and the feminization of America, the gynocracy.

01:28:29.160 It's a deep dive.

01:28:30.460 I think it's the longest book we've ever published.

01:28:33.080 Oh, really?

01:28:33.720 Yeah.

01:28:34.160 By word count.

01:28:34.860 and it is also the most heavily footnoted book that we've ever published by about 3 000 footnotes

01:28:42.180 going through the writing process and i kept saying i'm going to make this chapter shorter

01:28:46.360 this chapter is going to be short so i do my writing brian does his and the weird thing

01:28:50.660 happens they get longer it's really long but it's long because it's meticulous it is not just like

01:28:57.780 vibes it's documented historical research sociological research looking at the data

01:29:03.160 trying to demonstrate and show our work and not just assume it.

01:29:08.780 I think it's one of the most important books,

01:29:10.900 if not the most important book we've ever published.

01:29:13.100 Sorry to everybody else who's published books.

01:29:15.060 I mean, that was kind of rude.

01:29:17.920 That should be in pre-order sometime mid-August, I believe is the time.

01:29:22.320 So it will keep you informed and keep that coming up.

01:29:25.040 But I really hope that many, that all of our listeners read it.

01:29:29.620 And I actually hope that it's a book that does something like what Jeremy Carl's book, this is an audacious claim.

01:29:37.840 I'm just going to say it, though, because I do believe it.

01:29:40.400 I hope that it's a book that does something akin to what the unprotected class did, where people were reading the unprotected class who, especially at the time, would probably not admit that they were reading the protected class.

01:29:52.740 but these were men in positions of leadership in the nation that helped diagnose a problem

01:29:59.580 and bring into the mainstream. In that case, the problem of overt anti-white policy and racism

01:30:06.280 in America. I hope this book and the Lord, Lord can do what we want. Maybe three people will read

01:30:15.000 And I'm just in one of them will be my mom. But, you know, I believe that this book is diagnosing an issue of similar, if not even greater importance in terms of explaining why we are where we are today.

01:30:33.260 Yeah. And getting us pointed that compass bearing of like in what should we actually do? And it's it's from a position of this is a subject that we've actually had to deal with very practically and work very hard to bring our organizations, institutions, our local NASA institutions into alignment with our principles. So I would commend the book to you.

01:30:59.920 Yeah, very excited about that.

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01:31:17.120 And we thank you guys so much for partnering with us really in this work.

01:31:20.940 And it's encouraging, too, to hear all the stories of how your lives have been changed.

01:31:25.860 Yeah.

01:31:26.460 Tremendous honor.

01:31:27.280 Yeah.

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The King's Hall - July 03, 2026

The American Will to Greatness

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