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00:01:13.860 Hey everybody, it's me, Megyn Kelly.

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00:03:44.720 Adam Carolla, thank you so much for being here.

00:03:47.340 It's my pleasure, Megan.

00:03:49.380 So I knew I liked you

00:03:51.240 because I saw you on O'Reilly for years

00:03:54.120 and you were always so funny and raw.

00:03:57.000 But the moment we really fell in love,

00:03:59.500 whether you knew it or not,

00:04:00.540 was during No Safe Spaces,

00:04:02.820 which my friend Mark Joseph produced

00:04:05.360 and made with you guys,

00:04:06.740 you and Dennis Prager, among others.

00:04:08.880 And it was the thing that most profoundly affected me

00:04:12.440 over the past two years that I've had off.

00:04:15.420 I sat in the movie theater.

00:04:17.660 I could not move,

00:04:20.840 especially when you started to talk about,

00:04:24.120 what happened at Evergreen College

00:04:26.160 with Brett Weinstein,

00:04:27.460 which I'll get to in a second.

00:04:28.420 But can you just tell me,

00:04:30.000 why did you say yes to that,

00:04:32.660 to having him follow you around

00:04:33.760 all these college campuses

00:04:34.700 and cover these controversies?

00:04:37.540 Well, thanks for watching the movie

00:04:39.000 and I'm glad it had an effect on you.

00:04:41.760 I don't chart my projects or career out

00:04:47.780 as painstakingly as some people might think I do.

00:04:52.700 I simply, it's like people say,

00:04:57.360 why did you do Dancing with the Stars?

00:04:59.300 And I said, because they asked.

00:05:01.540 That's why Dancing with the Stars.

00:05:03.300 I never thought about it.

00:05:04.340 I just did it.

00:05:05.440 I love Dennis Prager.

00:05:07.860 I wasn't that familiar with the team at the time.

00:05:11.040 I now love Mark Joseph

00:05:12.920 and many other people that were involved with the project.

00:05:15.760 But to me, somebody said,

00:05:18.120 you just want to,

00:05:18.840 do you want to do a project with Dennis Prager?

00:05:20.780 And I love spending time with Dennis Prager so much

00:05:25.220 that just the notion of hanging around

00:05:28.120 in the dressing room or the makeup room

00:05:30.840 or sort of backstage, as it were,

00:05:34.380 and just chewing the fat with Dennis Prager

00:05:36.280 sounded so enticing to me

00:05:38.260 that I just immediately said yes.

00:05:40.140 Yeah, I, he, he was also fearless in the movie.

00:05:46.120 But I, so the movie's about, you know,

00:05:48.680 how we shouldn't have these safe spaces,

00:05:50.560 but more and more we're seeing them

00:05:52.080 and how damaging they are.

00:05:54.260 But the, the scene that I said,

00:05:55.920 like really brought it home

00:05:56.820 was when you guys, you covered

00:05:58.300 what went on at,

00:06:00.260 at Evergreen College

00:06:01.920 out in the Pacific Northwest.

00:06:03.740 What's the specific city?

00:06:04.800 Um, Evergreen is,

00:06:09.760 there's a whole bunch of little colleges.

00:06:12.920 So, uh, anyway, for me,

00:06:15.160 I'll, I'll, I'll circle back.

00:06:16.760 I grew up in North Hollywood.

00:06:17.960 I was a kind of a standout football player

00:06:20.740 in high school and I got,

00:06:22.060 but not that good,

00:06:22.940 but I did get recruited to play

00:06:24.760 at like Willamette and Lewis and Clark

00:06:27.560 and all these weird little schools

00:06:29.760 that were up in the Oregon

00:06:31.580 and Washington area.

00:06:32.800 So I think Evergreen is just

00:06:34.880 one of those small colleges

00:06:36.800 that's in, in nestled in that area.

00:06:39.540 But it's ironic because it's so bucolic.

00:06:42.120 It's so peaceful.

00:06:43.480 And it's the last place

00:06:45.080 you'd ever think anything

00:06:46.020 like this would ever happen.

00:06:48.000 So at the college,

00:06:49.540 they had had sort of a,

00:06:51.280 a voluntary sick out for years,

00:06:54.080 um, amongst the students of color,

00:06:56.580 black students, students of color,

00:06:58.200 to sort of show the classmates,

00:07:00.640 this is what life would be like

00:07:01.820 without us.

00:07:02.840 And it was a voluntary thing

00:07:04.020 and they had done it for years.

00:07:05.320 And then the day came when they said,

00:07:07.480 how about if this year

00:07:08.460 the white people did not come?

00:07:11.240 And Brett Weinstein,

00:07:12.820 a liberal college there who,

00:07:14.460 a liberal professor there

00:07:15.460 who supported most of

00:07:16.940 these progressive causes said,

00:07:19.220 you know,

00:07:19.980 it's a little different

00:07:21.120 when you have one race

00:07:22.720 telling the other race not to come.

00:07:24.720 And that,

00:07:25.740 that may cause some discomfort

00:07:27.500 with people.

00:07:28.720 All hell broke loose.

00:07:30.840 And, and, you know,

00:07:32.400 you, why don't you tell us

00:07:33.440 what, what happened to Brett?

00:07:36.120 Well, Brett sort of said,

00:07:38.720 you guys can do whatever you want,

00:07:41.220 but I'm going to be showing up

00:07:42.680 to work on Monday.

00:07:44.760 And he showed up

00:07:46.500 and he just began teaching his class.

00:07:49.080 And I think,

00:07:50.900 I don't want to even say naively,

00:07:53.240 I don't think any of us

00:07:54.340 would have had

00:07:55.060 much, many thoughts about it,

00:07:57.360 especially a few years ago.

00:07:58.940 He's going to show up,

00:07:59.600 he's going to teach,

00:08:00.400 but it started to,

00:08:01.420 started to realize

00:08:02.520 there was like an angry mob

00:08:04.160 forming outside of his classroom.

00:08:07.140 And then at some point

00:08:08.540 he was told he had to basically

00:08:10.080 leave for his own safety.

00:08:12.320 And the most rep,

00:08:13.960 you know,

00:08:14.440 I think a lot of people

00:08:15.760 take away a lot of different things

00:08:19.400 from that moment.

00:08:23.760 And maybe some of the things

00:08:26.000 you take away are different

00:08:27.320 than some of the things

00:08:28.280 I take away.

00:08:30.500 You know, it wasn't the mob.

00:08:33.120 It wasn't the angry students.

00:08:35.320 It wasn't the 19 year olds

00:08:38.460 who are out of control

00:08:39.620 that really scared me.

00:08:42.240 It was the faculty

00:08:43.720 and the dean

00:08:45.880 and the security

00:08:47.280 that just stood back

00:08:48.720 and said,

00:08:49.360 we don't want to agitate

00:08:50.660 these people

00:08:51.520 so you're on your own.

00:08:53.000 Meaning that to me

00:08:55.600 is the scary part

00:08:57.360 about where we're heading

00:08:58.980 as a society.

00:09:00.040 If you sort of look at Evergreen

00:09:02.000 as a microcosm

00:09:04.920 of what's going on in Portland

00:09:07.820 or what's going on

00:09:09.740 in many cities

00:09:12.040 in our country,

00:09:13.720 it's not really

00:09:14.560 the angry 19 year olds

00:09:16.520 who are out there

00:09:17.320 pulling people out of cars

00:09:18.920 or hurting people

00:09:19.800 or looting

00:09:21.540 or breaking glass.

00:09:23.360 That's a constant.

00:09:25.000 That's always been with us

00:09:26.740 and probably always

00:09:27.600 will be with us.

00:09:28.880 What happened

00:09:29.940 to the authority?

00:09:31.280 What happened

00:09:31.880 to the mayors?

00:09:33.040 What happened

00:09:33.700 to the police?

00:09:34.840 What's going on?

00:09:36.060 So they all

00:09:36.760 just stepped back

00:09:38.060 and they just basically

00:09:39.440 told the professor,

00:09:40.880 Brett Weinstein,

00:09:42.620 you're on your own.

00:09:44.380 I'm now taking

00:09:45.720 my marching orders

00:09:47.040 from the mob.

00:09:48.480 So basically,

00:09:50.300 the folks that

00:09:52.080 the lunatics

00:09:55.240 had taken over the asylum,

00:09:56.900 the real person

00:09:59.520 in my mind

00:10:00.800 who's responsible

00:10:03.240 and who almost

00:10:04.920 had blood on his hands

00:10:06.300 was the faculty

00:10:09.200 and the administration

00:10:11.120 of Evergreen College

00:10:12.520 who just stood back

00:10:13.460 and let this whole thing happen.

00:10:15.140 And it's just a microcosm

00:10:16.320 of what we're seeing

00:10:17.380 at so many universities

00:10:18.900 across the country.

00:10:19.960 I can't really think

00:10:21.600 of any off the top

00:10:22.740 of my head

00:10:23.280 where the faculty

00:10:24.720 chooses to stand

00:10:26.120 behind a professor

00:10:27.920 who's gotten in trouble

00:10:29.460 for some nothing,

00:10:31.720 some nothingness.

00:10:33.180 I mean,

00:10:33.540 the controversy

00:10:34.100 is invented

00:10:34.780 out of whole cloth

00:10:35.940 in most of these instances.

00:10:37.940 But here,

00:10:38.900 let me tell you

00:10:39.340 the moment for me.

00:10:40.400 And for me,

00:10:40.820 it was a life-changing moment

00:10:42.580 where there was

00:10:44.500 a young Black girl

00:10:45.880 who was one

00:10:46.600 of Brett's students

00:10:47.520 and she wanted

00:10:49.580 to speak to him

00:10:50.460 about what he wrote

00:10:51.700 in his letter

00:10:52.120 and why.

00:10:52.940 That's it.

00:10:53.740 She just wanted

00:10:54.420 to understand

00:10:55.240 why he did it,

00:10:56.940 which seems

00:10:57.860 like a good thing

00:10:58.560 whether you want

00:10:59.940 to protest him or not.

00:11:00.960 You should know

00:11:01.360 what you're dealing with.

00:11:02.020 And she was shouted down

00:11:06.380 by the mob

00:11:07.560 as though she were

00:11:09.340 in a KKK hat.

00:11:11.640 And the next day,

00:11:13.320 she was forced,

00:11:15.180 forced to read

00:11:16.720 what was essentially

00:11:18.280 an apology

00:11:19.460 for trying to speak to him.

00:11:23.240 And we have a clip

00:11:24.280 of Brett Weinstein

00:11:25.100 talking about that moment.

00:11:27.440 Here it is.

00:11:28.560 The next day,

00:11:29.380 the protesters

00:11:30.340 made a point

00:11:33.240 of bringing her

00:11:35.620 to a rally

00:11:38.120 that they had organized

00:11:39.200 on campus

00:11:39.940 and having her

00:11:40.940 read a statement

00:11:42.620 that they had prepared

00:11:44.340 publicly.

00:11:45.420 And it's heart-wrenching

00:11:48.020 for me.

00:11:48.700 She read the statement

00:11:49.740 and she butchered it.

00:11:51.420 Reading out loud,

00:11:52.200 maybe in front of a group,

00:11:53.260 was not her,

00:11:54.660 in her skill set.

00:11:56.380 Based on false

00:11:57.640 racially charged

00:11:59.500 alleges...

00:12:00.860 Allegations.

00:12:03.460 They effectively

00:12:04.040 humiliated her

00:12:05.220 in order to demonstrate

00:12:06.780 that they had

00:12:08.980 recaptured her

00:12:10.320 in some way.

00:12:11.400 Whereas the college

00:12:12.740 administration

00:12:13.700 specified...

00:12:15.960 Sorry.

00:12:17.800 There are a lot of moments

00:12:18.600 that are

00:12:19.660 particularly telling

00:12:21.540 from the protest,

00:12:22.580 but I must say

00:12:23.120 that is among

00:12:24.560 the most chilling

00:12:25.560 to me.

00:12:27.460 Because, Adam,

00:12:28.400 if you don't go along

00:12:29.540 with the mob,

00:12:30.760 the mob will come

00:12:31.760 for you.

00:12:33.420 Well,

00:12:34.140 you're right, Megan.

00:12:35.520 That...

00:12:36.520 You were right

00:12:38.040 to kind of tune

00:12:38.980 into that little

00:12:39.860 flashpoint there

00:12:41.000 because

00:12:41.500 that is the scariest,

00:12:44.460 least American

00:12:45.700 part of this

00:12:47.320 whole moment

00:12:48.940 we're living in.

00:12:50.220 And I have...

00:12:51.560 It's not

00:12:53.240 that, you know,

00:12:55.020 Drew Brees

00:12:55.720 says,

00:12:57.680 I respect

00:12:59.220 Black Lives Matter,

00:13:00.640 but I stand

00:13:01.480 for the flag.

00:13:02.420 It's the part

00:13:03.340 where he has

00:13:04.700 to apologize.

00:13:06.720 The part...

00:13:08.040 And to me,

00:13:09.900 any...

00:13:10.340 Anybody

00:13:11.380 listening

00:13:12.560 who remembers

00:13:14.500 the Twilight Zone,

00:13:17.440 I always say

00:13:18.300 you're going to get

00:13:18.920 wished

00:13:19.400 into the cornfield.

00:13:20.640 so that

00:13:21.720 they had that

00:13:22.480 great episode

00:13:23.380 with that little kid

00:13:24.780 and he had that power

00:13:26.460 and he could just

00:13:27.620 wish you

00:13:28.220 into the cornfield

00:13:29.380 if you crossed him.

00:13:30.760 And all the adults

00:13:31.860 would gather around him

00:13:33.320 after he wished

00:13:34.740 someone into the cornfield

00:13:36.020 and go,

00:13:36.700 it's a real good thing

00:13:37.800 you did, Billy.

00:13:38.660 It's a real good thing.

00:13:40.080 Oh, you're a good boy.

00:13:41.060 And it's like,

00:13:41.840 yes,

00:13:42.200 or you'll be wished

00:13:43.180 into the cornfield.

00:13:44.280 All these corporations

00:13:45.720 apologizing.

00:13:47.460 That poor,

00:13:48.980 scared student

00:13:50.300 having to stand up there

00:13:51.600 and be humiliated

00:13:52.520 that way

00:13:53.060 or she was going

00:13:53.980 to get wished

00:13:54.660 into the cornfield.

00:13:56.340 Athletes,

00:13:57.580 politicians,

00:13:58.720 everyone has to apologize

00:14:00.280 or they're going

00:14:00.940 to get wished

00:14:02.040 into the cornfield.

00:14:03.620 And that's a scary...

00:14:05.200 That is a very scary point.

00:14:07.600 But it's not even

00:14:08.640 just to apologize.

00:14:09.840 It's that you now...

00:14:10.900 You must join.

00:14:12.000 You must be

00:14:12.520 an enthusiastic participant.

00:14:14.900 You know,

00:14:15.500 people have started

00:14:16.640 getting in trouble

00:14:17.720 for not tweeting out

00:14:19.600 Black Lives Matter.

00:14:20.960 Some of these controversies

00:14:22.060 we've seen

00:14:22.440 where somebody winds up

00:14:23.340 so-called canceled

00:14:24.180 is because they chose

00:14:25.500 to just not say anything.

00:14:27.300 And then the mob

00:14:29.020 turns on them.

00:14:29.880 Why haven't you tweeted it out?

00:14:31.360 It's like,

00:14:31.800 what business of yours

00:14:33.840 is that?

00:14:35.320 And to me,

00:14:36.840 a different movie reference,

00:14:38.200 it's like Mommy Dearest

00:14:39.940 where the mother,

00:14:42.680 Joan Crawford,

00:14:43.340 has gotten rid of

00:14:44.340 yet another man

00:14:45.040 in her life,

00:14:45.600 father figure

00:14:46.060 to the young daughter

00:14:46.940 who she's abusing

00:14:48.280 according to the daughter.

00:14:49.900 And the daughter says

00:14:51.340 in one scene,

00:14:52.240 if she doesn't like you,

00:14:54.280 she can make you disappear.

00:14:56.200 And it's like,

00:14:56.940 that's what everybody's

00:14:57.940 worried about

00:14:58.360 because they haven't

00:15:00.360 made anyone disappear.

00:15:01.620 But the mob has,

00:15:03.540 you know,

00:15:03.980 it's got a few notches

00:15:05.160 on its belt

00:15:05.920 in terms of taking

00:15:06.660 people's careers,

00:15:08.100 publicly humiliating them,

00:15:09.460 and even it's gone

00:15:10.620 so far now

00:15:11.300 as to get college

00:15:13.160 admissions

00:15:13.840 for young teens

00:15:15.520 who have screwed up

00:15:16.460 pulled

00:15:17.180 so their career,

00:15:19.320 their future academic career

00:15:20.480 at least,

00:15:21.060 is done

00:15:21.700 at age 17 or 18.

00:15:24.700 Yeah,

00:15:25.540 you're so right

00:15:26.700 getting back

00:15:28.060 to the way

00:15:29.620 these things

00:15:30.260 are handled.

00:15:33.320 And we could,

00:15:35.760 this stuff

00:15:36.660 could be sort of

00:15:37.560 nipped in the bud.

00:15:38.700 if,

00:15:39.720 you know,

00:15:40.240 those students

00:15:40.860 started surrounding

00:15:41.940 Brett Weinstein's

00:15:43.500 classroom,

00:15:45.180 if the powers that be,

00:15:46.980 if the adults,

00:15:48.000 and I'm holding my fingers

00:15:49.280 in air quotes,

00:15:50.400 if the adults

00:15:51.160 on that campus

00:15:52.020 had done their job

00:15:53.060 and said to those kids,

00:15:54.720 hey,

00:15:55.160 enough is enough.

00:15:56.080 You're out of here.

00:15:56.860 I'm calling the cops.

00:15:58.340 He's a professor.

00:15:59.420 You can't threaten him.

00:16:00.900 This thing,

00:16:01.640 these things

00:16:02.040 could be quelled.

00:16:03.360 The USC professor

00:16:05.140 who is doing some,

00:16:06.880 I don't know,

00:16:07.380 he was a language,

00:16:08.240 linguistics guy.

00:16:09.380 He was saying something

00:16:10.180 that sort of sounded

00:16:11.320 like the N-word,

00:16:12.220 but it was in Vietnamese

00:16:13.260 or something.

00:16:14.360 Right,

00:16:14.560 he was speaking

00:16:14.880 a foreign language.

00:16:16.200 Yeah,

00:16:16.360 he was speaking

00:16:16.620 a foreign language.

00:16:17.600 And the administration,

00:16:19.400 so somebody heard it

00:16:20.300 and someone was offended.

00:16:21.900 And the answer

00:16:22.660 to that

00:16:23.680 should have been,

00:16:24.840 sorry you were offended.

00:16:26.160 This is a different language.

00:16:27.540 There are many words

00:16:28.720 in many languages

00:16:29.720 and some of them

00:16:30.520 are going to sound

00:16:31.060 similar to some

00:16:31.960 of our words.

00:16:32.980 And some of them

00:16:33.580 are going to sound

00:16:34.120 similar to some words

00:16:35.100 you disagree with.

00:16:36.020 Anyway,

00:16:37.460 next,

00:16:38.360 moving on.

00:16:39.660 Right.

00:16:40.000 Instead,

00:16:40.860 they're saying to a guy

00:16:41.620 like,

00:16:41.880 I'm going to suspend you

00:16:42.760 for two weeks.

00:16:43.800 And we're like,

00:16:44.600 for what?

00:16:45.840 And all you're doing,

00:16:47.460 all these idiots,

00:16:48.680 and again,

00:16:49.320 I don't blame the students.

00:16:50.740 Everyone is dumb at 19.

00:16:52.380 They have bad parents.

00:16:53.680 Fine.

00:16:54.420 So be it.

00:16:55.820 The administration

00:16:56.840 and the faculty.

00:16:58.540 The administration

00:16:59.080 and the faculty

00:16:59.760 need to start telling

00:17:00.940 the 19-year-olds,

00:17:02.000 hey,

00:17:02.340 get over it.

00:17:03.260 Thicken up your skin.

00:17:04.160 It's a coincidence.

00:17:05.580 Moving on.

00:17:06.360 Stop looking for it.

00:17:08.040 If you find actual cases

00:17:09.780 of racism,

00:17:11.080 then come to me.

00:17:12.600 When you manufacture them,

00:17:14.560 don't come into my office

00:17:15.640 because I'm not going

00:17:16.300 to do anything.

00:17:17.540 It's a bunch of 19-year-olds

00:17:19.020 going into the dean's office

00:17:20.540 going,

00:17:21.280 for our demands.

00:17:22.180 And the dean going,

00:17:23.100 okay,

00:17:23.820 let me carry out those demands.

00:17:25.700 Yeah,

00:17:25.900 the deans are in the fetal position.

00:17:28.180 They're just begging

00:17:28.940 not to get flogged.

00:17:31.200 Right.

00:17:31.680 Because he was one

00:17:32.940 of those 19-year-olds

00:17:34.380 35 years ago

00:17:36.160 and this is the direction

00:17:37.660 he took.

00:17:39.120 But I worry

00:17:40.180 because I used to have

00:17:41.960 debates on the Kelly File

00:17:42.940 where somebody would talk

00:17:44.060 about what's happening

00:17:44.980 on a college campus

00:17:45.920 and how weak

00:17:47.460 the students were.

00:17:48.840 I mean,

00:17:49.060 I remember

00:17:49.560 there was a story

00:17:50.440 out of Columbia Law School

00:17:51.700 and it was after

00:17:53.160 the protests

00:17:54.140 in Ferguson, Missouri

00:17:55.280 over the Michael Brown case,

00:17:56.600 which of course

00:17:57.020 we now know

00:17:57.620 was based on a lie

00:17:58.640 of hands up,

00:17:59.620 don't shoot.

00:18:00.060 But the students

00:18:01.540 at the law school

00:18:02.580 wanted to have

00:18:04.240 their midterm exams

00:18:06.140 off

00:18:06.500 or their final exams

00:18:07.340 off.

00:18:08.180 They didn't want

00:18:08.540 to take them

00:18:09.120 because the argument

00:18:10.540 was they could not

00:18:12.080 function in the face

00:18:13.120 of a perceived injustice.

00:18:15.420 Law students.

00:18:16.720 I'm like,

00:18:17.460 do they have any idea

00:18:18.400 what lawyers do?

00:18:20.200 They're not going

00:18:20.920 to be very good lawyers

00:18:21.860 if that's the case.

00:18:23.380 But the school,

00:18:25.180 they catered to them.

00:18:26.820 And I remember

00:18:27.740 thinking the kids

00:18:30.220 who aren't

00:18:30.960 having that done

00:18:32.100 for them,

00:18:32.500 who are like

00:18:32.960 just going to have

00:18:33.440 to take the exams,

00:18:34.300 they're going to crush

00:18:34.860 these other kids.

00:18:36.020 When they meet

00:18:36.660 in the world,

00:18:37.460 the ones who have

00:18:38.320 been through adversity

00:18:39.280 have built up

00:18:40.620 some resilience

00:18:41.360 are going to crush

00:18:42.700 the safe spaces kids.

00:18:44.720 But it seems to me

00:18:46.800 like the safe spaces

00:18:48.180 kids are winning.

00:18:50.160 Like,

00:18:51.080 what's going to happen

00:18:52.200 instead is the people

00:18:53.460 who don't get offended

00:18:54.560 at every turn

00:18:55.300 and just know how to function

00:18:56.400 even if their feelings

00:18:57.680 get hurt

00:18:58.160 are going to be shamed

00:18:59.880 into submission

00:19:00.560 into joining

00:19:01.340 the woke crowd

00:19:02.160 because corporate America

00:19:03.460 now seems on board.

00:19:06.520 Well,

00:19:07.600 you know,

00:19:08.020 sadly,

00:19:08.840 corporate America

00:19:09.620 will go

00:19:10.420 any way

00:19:11.200 the wind is blowing.

00:19:12.760 They have no personality.

00:19:15.080 They're a path

00:19:16.660 of least resistance.

00:19:18.320 They're constantly

00:19:19.080 trying to

00:19:19.780 win a popularity contest.

00:19:22.380 They simply

00:19:23.460 care about money

00:19:25.220 and they

00:19:26.720 attempt to fool

00:19:28.480 society.

00:19:30.320 So,

00:19:31.380 at some point,

00:19:32.500 I'll give you an example

00:19:33.640 of corporate America.

00:19:35.460 At some point,

00:19:36.820 they started figuring out

00:19:38.320 that we were becoming

00:19:39.800 feelings-based.

00:19:41.720 And so,

00:19:42.360 when I grew up,

00:19:43.640 when you were younger,

00:19:45.140 you would watch,

00:19:45.940 you'd see a car commercial

00:19:47.120 or truck commercial

00:19:48.220 and the commercial

00:19:49.380 would advertise

00:19:50.200 how much torque

00:19:51.160 and horsepower,

00:19:52.500 gas mileage,

00:19:53.460 bumper-to-bumper,

00:19:54.920 100,000-mile warranty,

00:19:56.860 galvanized steel,

00:19:58.340 durability,

00:19:59.300 this truck is tough,

00:20:00.680 you know what I mean?

00:20:01.460 Now you see

00:20:02.340 a Subaru commercial.

00:20:03.960 Subarus are made

00:20:05.060 with love.

00:20:06.860 You'd see a Subaru,

00:20:08.820 you folks,

00:20:10.320 watch your next

00:20:11.120 Subaru commercial.

00:20:12.700 See if they even

00:20:13.660 discuss price,

00:20:15.640 mileage,

00:20:16.820 torque,

00:20:17.420 horsepower,

00:20:18.420 safety.

00:20:19.000 It's just a family.

00:20:20.660 They have their puppies

00:20:21.580 in the back.

00:20:22.340 They're going down

00:20:23.220 the open highway.

00:20:24.560 They're exploring life.

00:20:25.860 There's a guy

00:20:26.360 strumming a guitar

00:20:27.520 in the background.

00:20:29.100 But here's my example.

00:20:30.840 Subaru

00:20:31.260 is a giant

00:20:32.840 Japanese

00:20:34.160 multinational company

00:20:36.120 and

00:20:37.340 Subaru

00:20:38.160 makes

00:20:39.180 Subaru

00:20:40.040 foresters

00:20:41.000 and outbacks

00:20:41.840 and station wagons

00:20:43.340 with love,

00:20:44.620 but they also

00:20:45.280 make attack

00:20:46.100 helicopters

00:20:46.760 for the Japanese

00:20:47.800 army.

00:20:48.200 So do they

00:20:49.980 make those

00:20:50.580 with love?

00:20:51.740 Are they

00:20:52.500 a love-based

00:20:53.360 company?

00:20:54.240 Or are they

00:20:54.760 just spoon-feeding

00:20:55.840 this to a bunch

00:20:56.800 of dumb Americans

00:20:58.000 who've gotten

00:20:58.380 really soft?

00:21:00.040 So if you want

00:21:01.960 to know

00:21:02.260 where we're at,

00:21:03.700 see what

00:21:04.240 Madison Avenue

00:21:04.980 is putting out

00:21:06.260 and look at

00:21:07.100 the commercials

00:21:07.600 from the 60s

00:21:08.780 and the 70s

00:21:09.720 and the 80s.

00:21:10.740 Look at the

00:21:11.100 commercials now.

00:21:12.040 All good vibes.

00:21:13.460 It's just all

00:21:14.120 about what a

00:21:15.200 good-hearted

00:21:16.280 company.

00:21:17.420 And it really

00:21:17.860 doesn't matter.

00:21:18.800 It could be

00:21:19.220 McDonald's

00:21:19.980 or it could

00:21:20.420 be Subaru.

00:21:21.400 It's just

00:21:21.800 all good

00:21:22.880 vibes.

00:21:23.940 I remember,

00:21:25.200 I know a big

00:21:26.120 fundraiser here

00:21:26.900 in New York

00:21:27.320 for the Democrats

00:21:28.200 and this person

00:21:29.500 was telling me

00:21:30.040 that they had

00:21:30.700 interviewed all

00:21:31.500 of the top

00:21:32.760 candidates running

00:21:33.540 before the

00:21:34.860 party settled

00:21:35.520 on Joe Biden

00:21:36.180 and he had

00:21:37.460 one discussion

00:21:38.080 with Cory Booker

00:21:38.860 when he said,

00:21:39.520 you know,

00:21:39.640 what's your

00:21:39.860 approach going

00:21:40.280 to be?

00:21:40.620 Like,

00:21:40.800 what are you

00:21:41.400 going to argue?

00:21:42.480 And Booker

00:21:43.040 said,

00:21:43.380 you know,

00:21:43.620 it's all about

00:21:44.400 the love,

00:21:44.940 man.

00:21:45.420 It's like,

00:21:45.920 it's about

00:21:46.760 the love.

00:21:47.960 And this

00:21:48.280 fundraiser was

00:21:48.960 like,

00:21:49.920 no,

00:21:50.660 no,

00:21:51.160 it isn't

00:21:51.620 at all.

00:21:52.440 You've got

00:21:52.860 to get out

00:21:53.180 there and

00:21:53.480 fight.

00:21:54.020 What are you

00:21:54.340 saying?

00:21:54.880 You're not

00:21:55.240 running to be

00:21:55.720 the nation's

00:21:56.260 therapist.

00:21:57.160 You've got

00:21:57.680 to take

00:21:57.980 on Donald

00:21:58.460 Trump.

00:21:59.280 And that's

00:22:00.180 part of

00:22:00.500 what's

00:22:00.720 appealing

00:22:01.020 about Trump

00:22:01.880 is he's

00:22:02.320 a fighter.

00:22:03.040 I mean,

00:22:03.360 he'll fight

00:22:03.980 anybody,

00:22:05.260 anywhere,

00:22:05.900 over anything.

00:22:09.900 Well,

00:22:10.340 as you know,

00:22:10.880 identity theft

00:22:11.760 is bad.

00:22:12.940 It's everywhere.

00:22:13.660 But did you

00:22:14.240 know that

00:22:14.460 it's become

00:22:14.840 a big-time

00:22:15.660 crime with

00:22:16.840 criminal gangs

00:22:18.160 operating units

00:22:19.380 dedicated entirely

00:22:20.800 to it?

00:22:21.940 And certain

00:22:22.280 behavior can

00:22:22.820 make you more

00:22:23.360 vulnerable to

00:22:24.080 this thing.

00:22:24.660 Identity theft,

00:22:25.400 like not checking

00:22:26.360 your credit card

00:22:27.140 or your bank

00:22:27.600 statements.

00:22:29.580 I feel like

00:22:30.520 they're looking

00:22:30.820 at me.

00:22:31.660 Using the

00:22:32.160 same username

00:22:33.120 and password

00:22:33.660 on every account.

00:22:34.540 And you know,

00:22:34.820 you have like

00:22:35.240 40,000 accounts.

00:22:36.380 It's hard to keep

00:22:37.000 making up the new

00:22:37.660 passwords.

00:22:38.920 You never check

00:22:39.700 your credit report.

00:22:40.400 I mean,

00:22:40.800 seriously,

00:22:41.140 when was the

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00:22:41.720 did that?

00:22:42.540 And oversharing

00:22:43.360 personal information

00:22:44.340 on social media.

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00:22:54.000 vulnerable.

00:22:55.120 You put your

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00:22:59.380 around the

00:22:59.760 world keep

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00:23:51.540 I want to

00:23:57.580 ask you, because

00:23:57.980 I thought, I

00:23:58.440 heard you make

00:23:59.100 a comparison

00:23:59.980 that I thought

00:24:00.320 was so

00:24:00.780 interesting, that

00:24:02.240 these woke

00:24:03.200 scolds, they're

00:24:05.440 like Scientologists.

00:24:08.140 Can you explain

00:24:08.640 that?

00:24:11.040 Yeah, it is

00:24:12.180 something I kind

00:24:13.820 of stumbled onto

00:24:14.840 just a few days

00:24:16.160 ago when I was

00:24:16.820 thinking about it

00:24:17.700 out loud, which

00:24:20.060 is the woke

00:24:22.180 scolds scare

00:24:24.160 everybody.

00:24:25.400 They really

00:24:26.360 do scare

00:24:27.040 people, and

00:24:27.580 there has

00:24:28.020 been enough

00:24:28.560 examples, as

00:24:29.780 you mentioned,

00:24:30.320 of people sort

00:24:31.020 of being removed

00:24:32.200 from their

00:24:33.320 livelihood.

00:24:34.480 So people

00:24:34.940 are duly

00:24:36.420 scared of

00:24:37.400 them, but

00:24:38.380 they don't

00:24:39.440 have as much

00:24:40.460 power as

00:24:41.440 people think,

00:24:42.860 and in some

00:24:43.740 cases, no

00:24:44.600 power.

00:24:45.560 And they

00:24:45.940 certainly couldn't

00:24:46.800 do anything if

00:24:47.960 everyone just

00:24:48.740 started speaking

00:24:49.640 their mind

00:24:50.460 Monday morning

00:24:51.640 at 9 a.m.

00:24:53.040 They couldn't

00:24:54.080 deplatform enough

00:24:55.200 people, they

00:24:55.840 couldn't remove

00:24:57.200 enough people from

00:24:58.060 their livelihood.

00:25:00.140 So, Scientology.

00:25:02.920 Now, we all

00:25:03.540 look at

00:25:04.000 Scientology now,

00:25:05.300 and we think,

00:25:05.920 oh, God, what a

00:25:06.960 joke, or they're

00:25:07.640 on the run, or

00:25:08.480 you know, there's

00:25:10.620 all this stuff.

00:25:11.520 The cat's out of

00:25:12.360 the bag with

00:25:12.760 Scientology.

00:25:13.340 When I started

00:25:15.200 my radio

00:25:16.460 career in

00:25:17.960 the mid

00:25:18.940 to late

00:25:19.680 90s, I

00:25:21.500 made some

00:25:22.260 jokes about

00:25:22.980 Scientology, I

00:25:24.140 called it a

00:25:24.720 cult, blah,

00:25:25.440 blah, blah.

00:25:27.380 Scientology

00:25:28.020 sent a long

00:25:29.560 letter basically

00:25:31.040 explaining what

00:25:32.020 I had to do

00:25:33.020 to apologize

00:25:34.280 to them.

00:25:35.060 They even gave

00:25:35.580 me a script

00:25:36.480 to read on

00:25:38.020 the air.

00:25:39.180 And then we

00:25:40.300 had a decision

00:25:41.100 to make.

00:25:41.660 Do we

00:25:42.560 apologize to

00:25:43.620 Scientology, or

00:25:45.440 do we say

00:25:46.900 something about

00:25:47.680 Scientology sending

00:25:48.880 me this prepared

00:25:49.760 statement?

00:25:51.660 Everybody who

00:25:53.640 I knew, I was

00:25:54.620 living in

00:25:55.220 Hollywood at

00:25:56.200 the time.

00:25:57.180 The Hollywood

00:25:57.700 Celebrity Center

00:25:58.920 for Scientology

00:25:59.820 was literally

00:26:00.480 down the street

00:26:01.380 from where I

00:26:01.900 lived.

00:26:03.160 And everyone

00:26:03.720 said, don't

00:26:05.140 cross Scientology

00:26:06.860 that will destroy

00:26:07.720 your life.

00:26:08.900 That will ruin

00:26:09.480 your life.

00:26:09.980 And I

00:26:11.320 thought, really?

00:26:12.500 And everyone

00:26:13.120 I spoke to

00:26:14.460 said, Scientology

00:26:15.660 will ruin your

00:26:16.700 life.

00:26:17.260 No, that's not

00:26:17.740 good.

00:26:18.840 Yeah, just

00:26:19.620 literally just

00:26:20.900 apologize to

00:26:21.820 them and get

00:26:22.480 on with your

00:26:22.980 life.

00:26:23.820 And I thought

00:26:24.420 about it and I

00:26:25.120 went, yeah, but

00:26:25.820 they're such

00:26:26.420 idiots.

00:26:27.020 And I thought,

00:26:28.060 screw it.

00:26:28.980 And I went on

00:26:29.780 the air that

00:26:30.500 night and I

00:26:31.320 took their

00:26:31.880 script and I

00:26:34.180 started making

00:26:34.840 fun of it and

00:26:35.780 I said they sent

00:26:36.820 me a script and

00:26:37.580 they expected me

00:26:38.260 to read it where

00:26:38.880 they could screw

00:26:39.580 themselves.

00:26:40.400 I'm not going

00:26:41.080 to do it and

00:26:41.980 blah, blah, blah.

00:26:42.960 And then for the

00:26:43.560 next week, I

00:26:44.540 worried because

00:26:45.560 everyone said

00:26:46.100 these guys are

00:26:46.620 going to camp

00:26:47.060 outside your

00:26:47.620 house, they're

00:26:48.180 going to go

00:26:48.760 through your

00:26:49.080 garbage can and

00:26:50.360 nothing happened.

00:26:52.140 And but that's

00:26:53.600 the way 25 years

00:26:55.100 ago, people were

00:26:55.920 scared to death of

00:26:57.400 Scientology.

00:26:58.120 But here's what

00:26:58.680 happened.

00:26:59.740 Leah Remini and

00:27:01.180 Adam Carolla and

00:27:02.380 whomever, everyone

00:27:03.560 just sort of came

00:27:04.420 out.

00:27:05.360 And when we all

00:27:05.940 came out and I

00:27:07.460 wasn't in

00:27:08.120 Scientology, but

00:27:08.980 what I'm saying

00:27:09.380 is everyone

00:27:10.000 just stood

00:27:10.960 their ground,

00:27:11.760 didn't apologize

00:27:12.580 and basically

00:27:15.420 stuck by their

00:27:16.400 guns.

00:27:17.160 And it turned

00:27:17.560 out Scientology

00:27:18.460 had no power.

00:27:20.260 They couldn't

00:27:20.740 do anything.

00:27:22.000 And it's the

00:27:22.920 same with the

00:27:23.460 woke skulls.

00:27:24.400 They had no

00:27:25.160 power.

00:27:25.740 They can't do

00:27:26.500 anything.

00:27:27.280 Stop apologizing.

00:27:28.580 Just stand up,

00:27:29.680 stay your ground,

00:27:30.640 and they'll go

00:27:31.120 away.

00:27:31.460 Just like whatever

00:27:32.380 happened to

00:27:32.940 Scientology will

00:27:34.220 happen to this

00:27:35.000 movement if people

00:27:36.080 just stand up.

00:27:36.940 Well, maybe.

00:27:38.120 Right?

00:27:38.320 It depends on how

00:27:39.060 it's coming at

00:27:39.740 you.

00:27:40.040 Because if it's

00:27:40.500 your employer

00:27:41.080 saying it's

00:27:42.200 your job, or

00:27:43.620 you get out there

00:27:44.620 and apologize, or

00:27:45.400 you're fired, most

00:27:46.800 people don't have

00:27:47.340 the economic

00:27:47.920 independence.

00:27:48.500 And even those

00:27:49.440 who have economic

00:27:50.100 independence who

00:27:50.800 don't want to

00:27:51.080 lose their jobs

00:27:51.860 will make a

00:27:52.860 different choice.

00:27:53.780 It's going to

00:27:54.500 take more.

00:27:55.460 It's going to

00:27:55.840 take a societal

00:27:57.240 recoiling from

00:27:58.880 what they're doing.

00:27:59.540 I'm with you.

00:28:00.540 I'm saying, here's

00:28:02.480 what we can't

00:28:04.480 do.

00:28:05.520 If, in fact, we

00:28:07.380 do it one at a

00:28:08.820 time.

00:28:09.820 So, if, you

00:28:11.880 know, if the

00:28:13.580 German soldier is

00:28:14.800 holding the

00:28:15.340 machine gun, and

00:28:16.520 we're all on the

00:28:18.600 other side of the

00:28:19.460 yard, and we

00:28:21.200 charge that guy

00:28:22.800 one person at a

00:28:24.240 time, then we'll

00:28:25.140 all be picked

00:28:25.920 off.

00:28:26.340 If we all go

00:28:27.520 simultaneously, we'll

00:28:29.640 get to the guy and

00:28:30.960 take his gun away.

00:28:32.480 Few people are

00:28:33.280 going to drop on

00:28:34.180 the way.

00:28:34.760 What I'm saying is

00:28:35.740 everyone needs to

00:28:36.940 just stand up

00:28:38.000 simultaneously and

00:28:39.900 say enough is

00:28:40.640 enough.

00:28:41.120 You do it one at

00:28:41.940 a time, everyone

00:28:43.020 just gets picked

00:28:43.720 off.

00:28:44.240 Yeah, that's

00:28:45.020 right.

00:28:45.400 And we're still

00:28:46.160 sort of in that

00:28:46.800 stage where people

00:28:47.640 don't feel

00:28:48.700 empowered, although

00:28:49.440 I do feel somewhat

00:28:50.740 of a shift.

00:28:51.360 I think people are

00:28:51.940 getting sick of

00:28:53.280 this.

00:28:53.680 I mean, they're

00:28:53.900 just getting sick

00:28:54.740 of being lectured

00:28:55.540 to by, as

00:28:56.320 Bill Maher

00:28:56.760 always says, who

00:28:57.580 are these perfect

00:28:58.300 people?

00:28:58.880 I think that's

00:28:59.360 exactly right.

00:29:00.680 Like, you know,

00:29:01.660 they've got

00:29:02.240 skeletons in their

00:29:02.960 closets.

00:29:03.700 They've got

00:29:04.020 mistakes that

00:29:04.680 they've made or

00:29:05.300 that are coming

00:29:05.820 their way for

00:29:07.080 which they're

00:29:07.480 going to need

00:29:07.900 forgiveness because

00:29:08.760 they're human.

00:29:11.180 And to sit in

00:29:12.720 judgment, even

00:29:13.380 Barack Obama has

00:29:14.200 criticized it with

00:29:15.020 their little thumbs

00:29:15.880 on their phones

00:29:17.160 thinking that's

00:29:18.320 activism.

00:29:19.300 They're in for a

00:29:20.160 rude awakening.

00:29:20.980 And none of

00:29:21.880 those people, none

00:29:22.960 of those people

00:29:23.520 will wind up having

00:29:24.640 a successful

00:29:25.500 corporate career.

00:29:27.380 You just, you

00:29:27.740 have to have

00:29:28.320 thicker skin and

00:29:29.580 be a more

00:29:30.200 principled person

00:29:31.780 than that.

00:29:33.500 All right, I

00:29:34.040 got to ask you a

00:29:34.600 question now because

00:29:35.720 I didn't know, I

00:29:36.680 knew a lot about

00:29:37.180 you, but I

00:29:37.600 didn't know that

00:29:38.080 you were, you

00:29:39.060 were like the

00:29:39.560 carnac of political

00:29:41.380 commentary because I

00:29:42.600 read in preparing

00:29:43.500 for this that in

00:29:44.080 2008 you predicted

00:29:45.220 Donald Trump was

00:29:45.980 going to be

00:29:46.320 president.

00:29:47.480 2008 you predicted

00:29:49.240 he was going to be

00:29:49.840 president and it

00:29:50.420 wasn't a joke.

00:29:51.100 You were serious.

00:29:52.760 So I have to ask

00:29:54.980 you, what's your

00:29:55.540 prediction this time

00:29:56.920 around?

00:29:57.260 Is he going to

00:29:57.940 remain president?

00:30:00.240 Yeah, I called in

00:30:01.700 2008, I said he was

00:30:03.480 going to be president

00:30:04.440 in 2016, which is a

00:30:07.980 little, even a little

00:30:09.260 more accurate than

00:30:10.240 just president in

00:30:11.160 general.

00:30:11.740 So I don't know, I'll

00:30:13.200 call that dumb luck.

00:30:16.000 Here's what I think

00:30:17.200 and you're, you're

00:30:18.380 uniquely qualified to

00:30:20.620 ruminate on this.

00:30:23.400 So I'm definitely

00:30:24.240 interested in what

00:30:25.140 your thoughts are.

00:30:27.120 We learned in the

00:30:29.080 last election that

00:30:31.120 celebrity and

00:30:32.700 celebrity endorsements

00:30:34.180 really didn't help

00:30:36.120 or hold any power,

00:30:37.600 right?

00:30:38.560 Like we always were

00:30:40.200 kind of, again, in a

00:30:42.080 way, it's kind of like

00:30:42.980 Scientology.

00:30:44.000 It's kind of like the

00:30:44.760 woke skull.

00:30:45.420 Like we always just

00:30:46.020 thought, well, once you

00:30:47.060 get Beyonce on your

00:30:49.440 side and Oprah, then

00:30:51.560 you're going to win,

00:30:52.280 you know, George

00:30:52.860 Clooney, you're going

00:30:53.720 to win, right?

00:30:54.400 Like we get these

00:30:55.080 celebrities behind you

00:30:56.040 at Robert De Niro.

00:30:58.060 It turned out they

00:31:00.560 don't really hold any

00:31:01.980 weight and in a weird

00:31:03.600 way, maybe when half

00:31:05.140 the country finds out

00:31:06.200 Robert De Niro is for

00:31:07.300 something, they're

00:31:07.960 against it now, right?

00:31:09.240 So my take on the

00:31:11.460 last election was a

00:31:13.360 kind of a referendum

00:31:14.300 on celebrity.

00:31:15.860 This election, we're

00:31:19.060 going to find out if

00:31:21.340 an endorsement

00:31:22.420 essentially from CNN

00:31:25.100 and MSNBC and the

00:31:28.020 New York Times and the

00:31:29.780 Los Angeles Times, we're

00:31:31.320 going to find out if

00:31:32.300 that moves the needle.

00:31:34.700 I mean, obviously, it

00:31:36.620 has more effect than a

00:31:38.220 celebrity endorsement,

00:31:39.380 but what I'm starting to

00:31:41.320 feel, and again, I'm

00:31:42.740 interested in your take

00:31:43.700 on this, is they are

00:31:46.200 starting to lose some

00:31:47.540 of their power.

00:31:49.300 And we'll find out if

00:31:51.300 essentially being, if,

00:31:54.040 you know, 18 or 19 out

00:31:56.820 of the 20 major news

00:31:58.440 outlets being all in for

00:32:00.540 Biden is going to be

00:32:02.860 enough to win it for

00:32:05.020 Biden.

00:32:05.360 Now, obviously, 20 years

00:32:06.780 ago, you would have won

00:32:08.040 in a landslide if that's

00:32:09.400 how it worked.

00:32:09.960 But now people are

00:32:11.260 getting their information

00:32:12.280 from different places.

00:32:13.260 They have less and less

00:32:14.540 faith in the CNNs of the

00:32:19.060 world.

00:32:19.700 And maybe, and I'll tell

00:32:21.880 you, if Trump wins this

00:32:25.520 election, it is the worst.

00:32:29.320 It's a referendum on CNN

00:32:31.180 more than it is on Biden.

00:32:33.660 Yeah, well, I have a couple

00:32:36.080 of thoughts on that.

00:32:36.840 I think, first of all, the

00:32:38.580 reason that celebrities'

00:32:39.780 influence over the

00:32:40.980 electorate has gone so far

00:32:42.320 down is because they've

00:32:43.300 shown their cards.

00:32:44.720 They've shown that they

00:32:46.500 can't stand half of the

00:32:48.580 country.

00:32:49.280 They think, as Hillary

00:32:50.240 said, they're deplorable.

00:32:52.300 And it just, their

00:32:53.040 contempt is oozing out of

00:32:54.620 them.

00:32:55.380 And so I think middle

00:32:56.360 America, having watched

00:32:57.720 enough television and

00:32:58.520 seen enough movies and

00:32:59.800 watched enough interviews,

00:33:00.960 has given them a

00:33:02.060 collective middle finger.

00:33:02.940 You know, like, we

00:33:04.260 don't need you, Ben

00:33:05.260 Affleck, who won't even

00:33:06.300 act in a movie with

00:33:07.340 somebody who self

00:33:08.000 identifies as a

00:33:08.820 Republican, right?

00:33:09.980 Like, we don't have to

00:33:11.360 watch your stupid movie.

00:33:12.800 And we couldn't care less

00:33:13.980 if you come out and

00:33:15.040 endorse the Democrat

00:33:16.160 because we're not

00:33:17.340 surprised and we don't

00:33:18.240 really care what you

00:33:19.240 think.

00:33:19.480 You don't understand us.

00:33:21.300 I used to say, though,

00:33:22.860 the last thing, if the

00:33:24.360 Democrats learn nothing,

00:33:25.460 they should learn to

00:33:26.320 never put Lena Dunham at

00:33:27.680 a campaign event again,

00:33:29.280 ever.

00:33:30.020 She is.

00:33:30.660 She was so alienating and

00:33:32.560 polarizing last time and

00:33:34.500 who in their right minds

00:33:36.600 thinks that Lena Dunham

00:33:38.940 is going to help

00:33:39.980 generate votes either

00:33:42.140 within the Democratic

00:33:42.800 Party or outside.

00:33:44.840 Listen, I live in this

00:33:46.060 town and this town is so

00:33:49.680 insular and isolated that

00:33:53.220 like Lena Dunham would do

00:33:56.380 her HBO show Girls and it

00:33:59.160 probably got three or four

00:34:00.120 hundred thousand views

00:34:01.220 every every Sunday.

00:34:03.180 And my friend works on

00:34:05.040 Tim Allen's show, Last

00:34:06.340 Man Standing.

00:34:07.240 He's a showrunner and

00:34:09.500 they get eight million

00:34:10.560 people and all this town

00:34:12.420 every week.

00:34:13.240 And all this town would do

00:34:14.200 is talk about Lena Dunham's

00:34:15.580 show.

00:34:16.200 You know, they think this

00:34:17.660 town is the entire nation.

00:34:20.000 And that's why they're

00:34:21.200 always confused.

00:34:22.160 They're like, I don't know

00:34:24.020 one person who would vote

00:34:25.900 for Trump and I don't know

00:34:26.980 one person who drives a

00:34:28.140 pickup truck or owns a gun.

00:34:30.400 Like, can I tell you, I

00:34:32.120 saw to your point, I saw

00:34:34.220 Barbra Streisand at an

00:34:35.540 event not long after Trump

00:34:37.660 won and she was very kind,

00:34:39.900 very gracious, but she

00:34:41.300 pulled me aside to talk

00:34:42.300 politics for a minute.

00:34:43.280 And, you know, she's a

00:34:43.920 she's a committed

00:34:44.420 progressive and she wanted

00:34:46.360 me to help her understand

00:34:47.760 how Trump won.

00:34:48.680 And her biggest question to

00:34:50.700 me was she was baffled by

00:34:52.380 the coal miners voting for

00:34:55.260 Trump.

00:34:55.580 She's like the coal miners.

00:34:57.400 How did the coal miners vote

00:34:58.880 for Trump?

00:35:00.060 I'm like, you've got to be

00:35:01.600 kidding me, right?

00:35:02.540 Like Hillary Clinton

00:35:04.080 expressly said she wanted

00:35:06.240 to kill coal.

00:35:07.300 Like, who would you vote

00:35:08.920 for if you were a coal

00:35:10.660 miner?

00:35:10.940 But that's how out of touch

00:35:12.640 she was on that issue.

00:35:14.660 And I think a lot of the

00:35:15.520 people on the coast and we

00:35:16.360 see it, you know, I don't

00:35:17.400 spend a lot of time with

00:35:18.120 celebrities, but I see it at

00:35:19.220 the the Emmys and the

00:35:21.100 Oscars and, you know, all

00:35:22.960 the lecturing they do.

00:35:24.300 And it's the same people who

00:35:25.420 were supporting Harvey

00:35:26.240 Weinstein, who was sexually

00:35:27.660 assaulting half of Hollywood.

00:35:29.160 So they've lost their

00:35:30.220 credibility.

00:35:30.660 And the same thing has

00:35:32.740 happened to the media

00:35:33.560 because, you know, when I

00:35:35.000 was on Fox, which

00:35:36.320 obviously leans right and

00:35:37.760 is sort of I think it's they

00:35:38.860 see themselves as the

00:35:39.800 antidote to the

00:35:41.520 the left wing bias that we

00:35:43.040 see in all the other

00:35:43.920 media.

00:35:44.280 I think the audience is

00:35:46.580 aware of that.

00:35:47.360 But I used to watch a lot

00:35:48.900 of CNN when I was getting

00:35:50.160 ready for the Kelly file.

00:35:51.140 I'd watch CNN because they

00:35:53.400 used to report the news

00:35:54.440 straight down the middle.

00:35:55.620 So I thought, all right, it's

00:35:57.060 boring, but at least I'm

00:35:58.300 getting facts.

00:35:59.660 And I can't I can't watch

00:36:01.540 CNN now at all.

00:36:02.740 It's it's total propaganda

00:36:04.720 for the left.

00:36:05.640 And it is it should be

00:36:07.400 called TDS.

00:36:08.980 Right.

00:36:09.400 Trump derangement syndrome

00:36:10.360 network.

00:36:10.820 And forget MSNBC, but I

00:36:12.700 will say at least they're

00:36:14.280 they're a little bit more

00:36:15.140 honest about their agenda.

00:36:17.460 CNN still trying to pan

00:36:18.680 itself off as like an

00:36:19.720 open minded, independent

00:36:21.280 down the middle news

00:36:22.140 network.

00:36:22.400 And it's too late.

00:36:24.400 They've they've been

00:36:25.180 exposed via virtue

00:36:26.620 signaling, the refusal to

00:36:28.580 acknowledge their many

00:36:29.780 reporting mistakes.

00:36:31.400 People know.

00:36:33.160 And now even media is

00:36:34.960 completely tribal, which

00:36:37.100 is why I hope and believe

00:36:38.200 that, you know, sort of

00:36:39.220 stepping out of the

00:36:40.640 traditional media is the

00:36:42.560 future.

00:36:45.220 And you made me think

00:36:48.760 of a thought that I had

00:36:50.140 recently, which is

00:36:51.840 where I think we're almost

00:36:54.720 there.

00:36:56.060 What I'm saying is, is

00:36:57.480 I've always had this

00:36:59.000 feeling that people

00:37:01.180 who watch Fox

00:37:02.920 know they're watching

00:37:04.480 Fox and people

00:37:06.580 who watch CNN

00:37:07.780 think they're watching

00:37:09.560 the news and

00:37:11.340 that's the

00:37:12.400 disconnect.

00:37:13.980 So when you talk to

00:37:15.420 people that watch CNN,

00:37:16.960 they go, here's what's

00:37:18.480 happening.

00:37:19.060 You know, Trump has

00:37:19.860 interfered with the

00:37:20.760 Russians and colluded

00:37:21.760 with the agents,

00:37:22.600 whatever.

00:37:23.020 And then you go watch

00:37:24.520 Tucker Carlson and

00:37:25.600 he'll go, what?

00:37:26.280 That's Fox.

00:37:27.060 Of course, they're in the

00:37:28.140 bag for Trump.

00:37:28.900 But it's like, yeah,

00:37:30.480 you don't know that's

00:37:31.240 what's going on on

00:37:32.020 CNN.

00:37:32.360 And a lot of it is

00:37:34.780 literally just because

00:37:36.180 it's in every airport.

00:37:38.280 You know, it's just up

00:37:38.900 on the monitor behind

00:37:39.960 the bar at the airport.

00:37:41.500 It's forced that to.

00:37:42.240 And you know what they

00:37:43.300 would say?

00:37:44.640 I think if you put Fox

00:37:48.160 up at every airport

00:37:50.060 and somebody said,

00:37:51.860 what's playing behind

00:37:52.640 the bar, they'd go

00:37:54.020 Fox.

00:37:55.220 And if you put CNN

00:37:56.400 up and you said to

00:37:58.080 someone, what's playing

00:37:58.900 behind the bar, they'd

00:37:59.740 go the news.

00:38:00.400 So, but we're slowly

00:38:04.020 just getting to that

00:38:06.020 point where people are

00:38:07.240 realizing that CNN

00:38:08.460 really isn't the news.

00:38:10.200 And my question is,

00:38:12.960 have we, has a large

00:38:15.180 enough group of

00:38:16.860 American voters

00:38:18.040 realize that they're

00:38:19.880 not watching the news

00:38:21.360 yet when they're

00:38:22.220 watching CNN?

00:38:23.740 And that's what we're

00:38:25.060 going to find out in

00:38:26.360 this upcoming election.

00:38:28.240 Well, and all of this

00:38:28.820 is what leads to the

00:38:30.140 secret Trump voter,

00:38:31.140 right?

00:38:31.340 The shy Trump voter,

00:38:32.660 because all of the,

00:38:34.400 you know, mainstream

00:38:35.420 respectable outlets are

00:38:37.420 telling you you're a bad

00:38:38.440 person if you vote for

00:38:39.680 him.

00:38:39.840 And in fact, if you say

00:38:40.820 it in polite circles,

00:38:41.860 you're going to be

00:38:42.540 called a racist.

00:38:44.300 I mean, that's what

00:38:45.180 people say explicitly.

00:38:46.720 Anyone who supports

00:38:47.780 Trump is a racist.

00:38:49.820 Notwithstanding if,

00:38:50.660 let's say, you know,

00:38:51.600 abortion is your main

00:38:52.560 issue and you have a

00:38:54.040 deep seated religious

00:38:55.220 belief that abortion

00:38:56.280 is murder and you

00:38:57.560 could never vote for a

00:38:58.620 president who is going

00:38:59.760 to do anything other

00:39:00.520 than try to crack down

00:39:01.560 on abortion.

00:39:03.040 So how does that make

00:39:04.280 you a racist?

00:39:05.840 Right?

00:39:06.680 That isn't thought

00:39:07.780 through.

00:39:08.260 It's just the labeling

00:39:09.760 to try to demonize and

00:39:11.140 truly try to silence.

00:39:13.180 And maybe they have

00:39:13.900 silenced them when the

00:39:14.760 pollsters call.

00:39:16.060 But the big question in

00:39:16.940 this election is how

00:39:18.820 many of those shy and

00:39:20.140 silent Trump voters will

00:39:21.580 actually go into those

00:39:22.360 polling booths and

00:39:23.360 surprise people again?

00:39:25.360 Can you imagine?

00:39:26.380 I always just think of

00:39:27.820 everything as sort of

00:39:29.860 from the, I look at

00:39:32.400 everything sort of

00:39:33.120 through the lens of

00:39:34.300 somebody who make, who

00:39:38.080 comments on things and

00:39:40.060 tries to put together

00:39:41.000 sort of thoughtful

00:39:41.900 opposition to things or

00:39:44.760 notions that maybe

00:39:46.780 people hadn't thought

00:39:47.940 of before.

00:39:49.440 And I look at everything

00:39:50.680 through that lens.

00:39:51.920 Like my job is to speak

00:39:53.880 about things and make

00:39:55.660 people go like, no,

00:39:56.700 that's funny.

00:39:57.500 Or, no, I never

00:39:58.500 thought of it that way.

00:39:59.620 Like sort of the woke

00:40:01.300 scolds is to

00:40:03.020 Scientology kind of

00:40:04.980 things.

00:40:05.360 Like I'm trying to

00:40:06.000 connect things.

00:40:07.400 Calling everyone you

00:40:08.480 disagree with racist

00:40:11.040 is the most

00:40:13.280 intellectual lazy.

00:40:15.320 How lazy intellectually

00:40:17.080 are you?

00:40:17.840 If you go, hey,

00:40:18.500 disagree with me?

00:40:19.960 Racist.

00:40:20.480 Like what, what

00:40:22.840 business are you in?

00:40:24.500 And, you know, my

00:40:25.160 favorite story, Dave

00:40:27.900 Rubin, a guy you

00:40:30.380 know and I know and I

00:40:32.160 enjoy on many

00:40:33.840 different levels.

00:40:35.200 I, he, he always

00:40:36.340 said something I

00:40:37.120 repeat over and over

00:40:38.220 again because it's

00:40:38.920 always, I've always

00:40:39.720 thought of it, which

00:40:40.560 is he, he just said

00:40:42.740 when he worked at

00:40:44.240 Young Turks before he

00:40:46.260 sort of got turned

00:40:47.760 around, he thought

00:40:48.700 how, how could it

00:40:50.800 be that everyone

00:40:52.080 who disagrees with

00:40:53.060 us is a racist?

00:40:55.040 How could that

00:40:55.940 mathematically be

00:40:57.260 possible?

00:40:58.060 Everyone who

00:40:58.580 disagrees with us is

00:40:59.480 a racist?

00:41:00.720 It's the laziest

00:41:01.900 endeavor intellectually

00:41:03.580 ever.

00:41:04.840 Well, it's, it's

00:41:05.580 self-defeating

00:41:06.240 because

00:41:06.660 it's self-defeating

00:41:09.580 because the

00:41:10.880 overuse of the word

00:41:11.640 has completely

00:41:12.200 diluted it and

00:41:13.160 changed its effect.

00:41:14.500 It used to be if you

00:41:15.380 leveled that charge at

00:41:16.420 someone, it was

00:41:17.120 serious and it was

00:41:18.400 devastating.

00:41:19.840 And now I went to

00:41:22.100 a dinner last

00:41:23.920 summer with a

00:41:25.100 group of very

00:41:26.120 well-known

00:41:26.760 Republicans who

00:41:27.660 had served in

00:41:28.500 office at high

00:41:30.060 levels.

00:41:30.860 I was on the

00:41:31.700 Jersey shore, so

00:41:32.440 there's still

00:41:32.880 Republicans there.

00:41:33.920 I wasn't in the

00:41:34.400 Hamptons.

00:41:35.160 And that somebody

00:41:37.300 asked the question,

00:41:38.420 like go around the

00:41:39.240 table, who here

00:41:40.740 has been called a

00:41:41.800 racist?

00:41:42.540 And virtually every

00:41:43.800 hand went up.

00:41:44.740 And it's not

00:41:45.480 because everyone

00:41:46.320 sitting there was

00:41:47.100 a racist.

00:41:47.760 It's because

00:41:48.120 everyone sitting

00:41:48.800 there was a

00:41:49.520 Republican.

00:41:50.660 They're used to

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00:41:52.600 that leveled against

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00:44:00.660 And now for a new

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00:44:02.320 Megyn Kelly Show.

00:44:03.220 We're calling it

00:44:03.900 Devil May Care

00:44:04.780 All Stars.

00:44:06.060 Devil May Care is

00:44:06.700 the name of my

00:44:07.320 production company.

00:44:08.800 And it's an

00:44:09.400 attitude, basically.

00:44:10.660 The full saying is

00:44:11.420 the devil may care,

00:44:12.420 but I do not.

00:44:14.000 And honestly,

00:44:14.480 to survive in

00:44:15.180 today's day and age,

00:44:15.920 you have to have

00:44:16.440 that attitude or

00:44:17.240 you will be

00:44:18.040 scolded at

00:44:19.400 every turn

00:44:20.280 of your life.

00:44:21.160 Whatever you're

00:44:21.640 doing, it's wrong.

00:44:22.340 Everything you're

00:44:22.720 thinking and doing

00:44:23.300 is wrong.

00:44:23.760 Just know that,

00:44:24.420 okay?

00:44:24.640 Even if you're

00:44:25.140 woke, there's no

00:44:25.980 amount of wokeness

00:44:26.580 that's okay for

00:44:27.520 the woke.

00:44:28.060 You gotta get

00:44:28.520 even woker.

00:44:30.500 But people are

00:44:31.300 starting to push

00:44:31.880 back against this

00:44:32.640 nonsense so that

00:44:33.320 we can live our

00:44:33.800 lives and be a

00:44:34.940 little bit more

00:44:35.260 generous with one

00:44:35.940 another.

00:44:36.220 And just to stand

00:44:37.920 up to the

00:44:38.340 constant scolding

00:44:39.420 and guilting.

00:44:40.700 And there are

00:44:41.020 others like us

00:44:42.480 out there with

00:44:43.560 that devil may

00:44:44.200 care attitude.

00:44:44.800 And we are

00:44:45.840 choosing to

00:44:46.360 highlight them

00:44:46.980 here in this

00:44:47.560 segment.

00:44:48.300 All right,

00:44:48.460 today we're

00:44:49.100 going to talk

00:44:49.420 about Professor

00:44:50.020 Mark Crispin

00:44:51.160 Miller.

00:44:52.060 He's at NYU.

00:44:53.300 Yes, I said

00:44:53.760 NYU.

00:44:54.860 That liberal

00:44:56.180 bastion.

00:44:57.500 And he is

00:44:58.400 teaching a class

00:44:59.100 there called

00:44:59.460 Mass Persuasion

00:45:00.600 and Propaganda.

00:45:02.360 I would love to

00:45:02.960 see the syllabus

00:45:03.440 for that class.

00:45:04.820 Anyway, one

00:45:05.300 student went on

00:45:06.300 a tweet rant

00:45:07.640 aimed at this

00:45:09.040 guy.

00:45:09.740 She was telling

00:45:10.380 on him, he's

00:45:11.520 her professor,

00:45:12.800 for having the

00:45:13.720 temerity to

00:45:14.460 suggest that the

00:45:15.880 science on masks

00:45:17.100 is not 100%

00:45:18.820 definitive.

00:45:19.860 And he made

00:45:20.340 some other

00:45:20.640 coronavirus points

00:45:21.660 of view, but

00:45:22.220 she's focused on

00:45:22.880 the masks.

00:45:24.140 Now, of course,

00:45:25.080 our officials have

00:45:27.860 also done a

00:45:28.440 reversal on masks.

00:45:29.520 As you know,

00:45:30.140 we've gotten

00:45:30.420 conflicting

00:45:30.820 information from

00:45:31.500 the CDC.

00:45:32.660 But nonetheless,

00:45:33.720 the student is

00:45:34.240 outraged and she

00:45:35.640 claims to have

00:45:36.400 forwarded the

00:45:36.960 emails to the

00:45:37.660 NYU bias hotline.

00:45:39.160 Why the bias

00:45:39.960 hotline?

00:45:40.700 Who the hell

00:45:41.280 knows?

00:45:41.640 But whatever you

00:45:42.280 do, you're racist

00:45:43.360 and you're a bigot

00:45:44.020 and you're trans

00:45:44.560 and you're a

00:45:45.520 xenophobe and

00:45:46.140 somehow the

00:45:47.000 coronavirus mask

00:45:47.860 thing also makes

00:45:48.660 you awful.

00:45:49.840 So what did the

00:45:50.440 professor do?

00:45:51.140 Did he bend the

00:45:52.380 knee and apologize

00:45:53.060 for being a

00:45:53.620 hideous person?

00:45:54.840 No.

00:45:55.820 This is from his

00:45:56.580 blog, his blog

00:45:58.040 post on the

00:45:58.660 issue.

00:45:59.660 Quoting now,

00:46:01.060 my department

00:46:01.520 chair just called

00:46:02.140 to ask if that

00:46:03.260 is true.

00:46:04.320 It is, as I

00:46:05.340 readily told him,

00:46:06.360 and to let me

00:46:06.900 know that NYU's

00:46:08.040 COVID response

00:46:09.000 team, or whatever

00:46:09.700 it's called, will

00:46:10.420 shortly be emailing

00:46:11.760 all my students to

00:46:12.780 reaffirm the

00:46:13.380 policy, which I

00:46:14.500 told them

00:46:14.920 explicitly, I

00:46:16.100 don't advise

00:46:17.100 them to

00:46:17.500 ignore.

00:46:17.760 I do believe

00:46:19.080 they should be

00:46:19.520 thinking for

00:46:19.900 themselves and

00:46:20.960 studying the

00:46:21.660 evidence for any

00:46:22.580 claim or mandate

00:46:23.720 instead of merely

00:46:24.900 bowing to

00:46:25.380 authority.

00:46:26.580 That's my

00:46:27.060 intellectual and

00:46:28.020 civic obligation as

00:46:29.060 a teacher, whatever

00:46:30.080 NYU's official policy

00:46:31.380 or New York

00:46:31.880 states.

00:46:32.700 It's one thing to

00:46:33.400 expect the students

00:46:34.040 to obey their

00:46:34.720 institution's rules,

00:46:35.940 but quite another

00:46:36.940 thing to urge them

00:46:37.940 not to think about

00:46:39.420 it.

00:46:40.380 Oh, you go,

00:46:41.880 professor.

00:46:42.300 You go.

00:46:44.940 I admire his

00:46:46.100 ability to stay

00:46:47.400 steely-spined, and

00:46:49.560 we'll update you when

00:46:50.540 we know how it

00:46:51.720 turns out.

00:46:59.020 We saw that with

00:47:00.240 your old pal, Jimmy

00:47:01.100 Kimmel, right?

00:47:01.800 He got dragged

00:47:03.160 through the mud for

00:47:04.160 wearing blackface and

00:47:05.580 a couple of skits while

00:47:06.780 you guys did the man

00:47:08.100 show.

00:47:08.380 And, you know, as

00:47:10.460 somebody who was

00:47:11.300 accused of racism for

00:47:12.620 just trying to have a

00:47:13.320 discussion about

00:47:14.740 blackface, I did

00:47:15.940 wonder for a while

00:47:16.880 why no one seemed to

00:47:18.860 care that so many

00:47:20.020 celebrities had

00:47:20.680 actually worn it, but

00:47:22.380 I didn't really wonder

00:47:23.220 because I knew they

00:47:24.640 were perceived as

00:47:25.360 Democrats or liberals,

00:47:26.280 so they got a pass

00:47:27.540 for actually wearing

00:47:29.580 it.

00:47:30.180 And when that whole

00:47:31.500 controversy hit with

00:47:32.600 him, I know you

00:47:33.580 defended him.

00:47:34.580 What did you think

00:47:36.020 of it?

00:47:37.100 Yeah.

00:47:38.380 You know, for me, I

00:47:41.680 kind of approach

00:47:43.280 life as a former

00:47:45.180 carpenter, builder.

00:47:47.420 I just sort of work

00:47:48.700 big to small, you

00:47:50.120 know.

00:47:51.120 And first things

00:47:52.440 first, I'm not

00:47:53.520 interested in good

00:47:55.100 parents, good

00:47:55.980 citizens, taxpayers,

00:47:58.300 you know, whether it's

00:47:59.040 you or Jimmy Kimmel.

00:48:00.640 You guys are the least

00:48:02.240 of my problems.

00:48:03.020 As long as there's

00:48:04.160 murders and

00:48:05.340 arsonists and

00:48:06.420 deadbeat dads, I

00:48:07.840 have no problem

00:48:08.820 with good

00:48:10.600 citizens and

00:48:11.740 good people,

00:48:12.940 whatever their

00:48:13.840 politics are.

00:48:15.000 So just in

00:48:15.900 general, I'm not

00:48:17.380 interested in

00:48:18.420 disciplining

00:48:19.220 taxpayers,

00:48:21.500 citizens,

00:48:22.600 good dads,

00:48:23.520 good moms,

00:48:24.280 good neighbors.

00:48:25.060 I have no

00:48:25.860 interest in that.

00:48:28.100 But my

00:48:29.940 feeling is

00:48:31.360 always clarity.

00:48:32.480 my feeling when

00:48:34.140 you were talking

00:48:34.960 about going

00:48:35.820 trick-or-treating

00:48:37.100 and Halloween,

00:48:38.380 I dressed up as

00:48:40.000 Mr. T when I

00:48:41.080 was 19.

00:48:42.140 I went trick-or-treating

00:48:43.560 as Mr. T.

00:48:44.760 I put on

00:48:45.920 blackface.

00:48:46.780 I actually

00:48:47.200 remember.

00:48:48.720 And another thing

00:48:49.780 too is I don't

00:48:50.760 call it blackface.

00:48:52.260 I was impersonating

00:48:53.640 Mr. T.

00:48:54.760 Blackface is its

00:48:55.760 own, you know,

00:48:56.660 vaudevillian

00:48:57.360 show that was

00:48:59.840 there to denigrate

00:49:01.280 black people.

00:49:02.500 I was there

00:49:03.620 to praise

00:49:05.140 Mr. T.

00:49:06.180 It had nothing

00:49:06.840 to do.

00:49:08.240 See, I think

00:49:08.980 that the next

00:49:09.720 evolution of this

00:49:10.720 stuff is even

00:49:11.380 stop breaking it

00:49:12.480 down into color.

00:49:14.540 I was a huge

00:49:15.320 fan of Mr. T

00:49:16.500 when I was 19.

00:49:17.640 So I won

00:49:18.320 as Mr. T.

00:49:19.360 I shaved my

00:49:20.080 head.

00:49:20.800 I grew out my

00:49:21.460 beard.

00:49:22.020 I colored

00:49:23.020 myself.

00:49:23.700 I didn't use,

00:49:24.560 I didn't have

00:49:25.020 enough money for

00:49:26.060 literally like

00:49:26.960 black makeup.

00:49:28.460 I charred

00:49:30.000 something like

00:49:30.960 like a paper

00:49:31.680 towel roll or

00:49:32.580 something.

00:49:32.900 I just kind of

00:49:33.360 rubbed soot

00:49:34.400 on myself.

00:49:35.900 And I did,

00:49:37.040 I got the

00:49:37.600 chains.

00:49:38.420 I did everything

00:49:39.000 I could do to

00:49:39.920 look and sound

00:49:40.920 like Mr. T

00:49:41.860 for that

00:49:43.160 Halloween.

00:49:44.400 That was not

00:49:45.760 me in a

00:49:46.860 minstrel show.

00:49:47.740 That was me

00:49:48.300 doing Mr. T.

00:49:49.500 When I worked

00:49:50.180 with Jimmy on

00:49:51.640 The Man Show,

00:49:52.660 he was doing

00:49:53.300 Carl Malone,

00:49:54.940 NBA great Carl

00:49:56.340 Malone.

00:49:57.020 He loved

00:49:58.120 Carl Malone.

00:49:59.020 We did a

00:49:59.980 funny bit

00:50:00.780 where he

00:50:01.440 played Carl

00:50:02.120 Malone.

00:50:02.800 Chris Rock,

00:50:05.000 Jimmy Fallon

00:50:05.760 did Chris

00:50:06.400 Rock.

00:50:07.040 Jimmy Fallon

00:50:07.660 wasn't doing

00:50:08.280 a generic

00:50:09.040 black person.

00:50:10.680 Well,

00:50:10.860 and Chris

00:50:11.160 Rock came

00:50:12.000 out this

00:50:12.400 week or

00:50:12.840 last week

00:50:13.320 and said

00:50:13.780 intent does

00:50:14.620 matter.

00:50:15.460 It does.

00:50:15.900 He said

00:50:16.320 Jimmy Fallon

00:50:17.500 is a great

00:50:18.120 guy and

00:50:19.380 intent does

00:50:20.700 matter,

00:50:21.580 which is,

00:50:22.040 which is,

00:50:23.080 you know,

00:50:23.300 the discussion

00:50:23.780 I was trying

00:50:24.400 to raise

00:50:24.800 too.

00:50:25.040 And I

00:50:25.300 think to

00:50:26.600 say that

00:50:27.220 somebody's

00:50:27.860 mindset in

00:50:28.700 doing something

00:50:29.280 other people

00:50:29.780 consider insensitive

00:50:30.800 is irrelevant,

00:50:32.080 is just stupid.

00:50:33.700 That's just stupid.

00:50:34.580 We do need to

00:50:35.220 know what's in

00:50:36.200 somebody's heart

00:50:37.400 because people

00:50:38.360 will misstep and

00:50:39.440 predicting in

00:50:40.700 2020 what's

00:50:42.620 going to offend

00:50:43.640 somebody isn't

00:50:45.180 all that easy,

00:50:46.240 especially if you're

00:50:47.200 going to look

00:50:47.700 back.

00:50:48.220 I mean,

00:50:48.380 it's even worse

00:50:49.040 for people who

00:50:50.320 did what we

00:50:51.840 now see as

00:50:52.520 racially insensitive

00:50:53.360 things or

00:50:53.980 gender insensitive

00:50:55.620 things 20

00:50:56.980 years ago.

00:50:58.100 This is why,

00:50:58.760 this is why,

00:50:59.260 just as an

00:50:59.560 aside,

00:50:59.820 I never

00:51:00.120 understood why

00:51:01.120 they had to

00:51:01.540 take away the

00:51:02.220 Laura Ingalls

00:51:03.420 Wilder Reading

00:51:04.680 Award.

00:51:05.940 You know,

00:51:06.100 she did the

00:51:06.620 Little House

00:51:07.000 on the Prairie

00:51:07.360 series because

00:51:08.720 she was,

00:51:09.200 she was

00:51:09.700 insensitive.

00:51:10.240 The writings

00:51:10.540 are insensitive

00:51:11.140 to Native

00:51:11.560 Americans.

00:51:12.480 Well,

00:51:12.780 she lived in

00:51:13.400 the,

00:51:13.640 in the late

00:51:14.180 1800s.

00:51:15.380 I mean,

00:51:16.280 do you find

00:51:17.060 me somebody

00:51:17.540 back then who

00:51:18.240 was being

00:51:18.640 sensitive to

00:51:19.380 Native

00:51:19.600 Americans?

00:51:20.280 We evolve,

00:51:21.200 we learn,

00:51:21.980 we decide

00:51:22.740 whether the

00:51:23.220 new standards

00:51:24.000 are,

00:51:24.500 they make

00:51:24.960 sense or

00:51:25.620 they don't.

00:51:27.120 Well,

00:51:27.720 okay,

00:51:28.720 a bunch of

00:51:29.340 stuff.

00:51:29.880 First things

00:51:30.380 first,

00:51:31.540 nobody is

00:51:33.060 really offended.

00:51:34.640 Nobody's

00:51:35.160 really offended.

00:51:35.880 Nobody cares.

00:51:36.600 You think

00:51:37.220 anybody really

00:51:38.320 cares about

00:51:39.400 Jimmy Fallon

00:51:40.600 impersonating his

00:51:41.980 friend Chris

00:51:42.660 Rock from

00:51:43.240 20 years ago?

00:51:45.100 Do you?

00:51:45.680 Nobody cares.

00:51:46.940 Nobody.

00:51:48.340 Really nobody.

00:51:49.800 They really

00:51:50.480 don't.

00:51:50.860 Now,

00:51:51.040 they would

00:51:51.320 love to

00:51:52.160 wag their

00:51:52.640 finger at

00:51:53.180 everybody.

00:51:53.780 They would

00:51:54.000 love to

00:51:54.440 tsk everyone

00:51:56.140 and look down

00:51:56.960 their nose at

00:51:57.520 everyone and

00:51:58.120 then do the

00:51:58.600 schadenfreude

00:51:59.240 thing where

00:51:59.560 they go,

00:51:59.900 ooh,

00:52:00.200 guess who's

00:52:00.580 in trouble

00:52:00.940 now?

00:52:01.300 But they

00:52:01.560 don't care.

00:52:02.440 Nobody

00:52:02.720 thinks it's

00:52:03.280 racist.

00:52:04.000 And this

00:52:05.120 part of

00:52:06.160 what's in

00:52:06.640 your heart,

00:52:07.480 the fact that

00:52:08.020 we're ignoring

00:52:08.640 it, that is

00:52:09.720 insane because

00:52:11.220 it's going

00:52:12.140 right back to

00:52:12.900 the USC

00:52:13.380 professor who

00:52:14.780 was speaking a

00:52:15.820 different language.

00:52:16.920 And that guy

00:52:17.620 says, I was

00:52:18.580 speaking a

00:52:19.140 different language.

00:52:20.020 Sorry if it

00:52:20.520 sounded like the

00:52:21.300 N-word and

00:52:22.200 the administration

00:52:23.020 goes, we

00:52:23.960 don't care what

00:52:24.800 you were

00:52:25.080 thinking.

00:52:26.000 Here's what it

00:52:27.140 sounded like.

00:52:28.080 You're going to

00:52:28.560 be put on

00:52:29.040 administrative leave.

00:52:31.340 What kind of

00:52:32.540 way to run a

00:52:33.160 society is that?

00:52:34.140 We don't care.

00:52:34.780 So if my

00:52:37.660 wife is

00:52:38.520 taking my

00:52:39.240 car out to

00:52:40.440 get it

00:52:40.760 detailed for

00:52:42.020 my birthday

00:52:42.700 and gets

00:52:43.500 into an

00:52:44.000 accident versus

00:52:45.320 my son going

00:52:46.820 out joyriding

00:52:48.040 in it on a

00:52:49.020 Saturday night

00:52:49.640 and getting

00:52:50.340 into an

00:52:51.000 accident, I'm

00:52:52.040 supposed to

00:52:52.600 have the same

00:52:53.400 reaction just

00:52:54.360 because the

00:52:55.100 same car is

00:52:56.140 dented in the

00:52:57.240 same way?

00:52:58.220 That's insane.

00:53:00.500 The listening

00:53:01.860 to you talk

00:53:02.340 reminds me of

00:53:03.140 I did used

00:53:04.660 to listen,

00:53:05.220 believe it or

00:53:05.620 not, to

00:53:05.940 Loveline here

00:53:06.660 and there with

00:53:07.380 you and

00:53:07.720 Dr. Drew.

00:53:09.920 I do wonder

00:53:11.560 now looking

00:53:12.100 back, how did

00:53:13.140 you get selected

00:53:13.800 to be the

00:53:14.360 expert on

00:53:15.020 sex, love,

00:53:17.200 relationships?

00:53:18.900 Was there an

00:53:19.740 investigation of

00:53:20.600 your background

00:53:21.080 and your

00:53:21.400 qualifications for

00:53:22.620 that?

00:53:24.320 No.

00:53:25.600 It was a

00:53:26.440 simpler time.

00:53:27.160 My qualifications

00:53:28.420 were I have

00:53:29.940 a high school

00:53:30.560 degree and

00:53:33.460 1.7 GPA and

00:53:35.720 then I worked

00:53:36.480 on construction

00:53:37.200 sites my

00:53:38.060 entire adult

00:53:40.100 life and at

00:53:41.900 a certain point

00:53:43.620 I made it into

00:53:45.080 the radio station

00:53:46.320 and Dr. Drew

00:53:49.040 just took a

00:53:49.840 shining to me.

00:53:50.760 Dr. Drew just

00:53:51.520 thought this guy

00:53:52.300 is so funny and

00:53:53.440 I really didn't

00:53:55.000 know him very

00:53:55.780 well.

00:53:56.780 I did a small

00:53:57.900 character on

00:53:58.980 the morning show.

00:54:00.620 Dr. Drew just

00:54:01.320 fell in love with

00:54:02.060 this character and

00:54:03.280 Dr. Drew just

00:54:04.380 thought this is a

00:54:06.280 guy I want to

00:54:06.880 work with.

00:54:08.000 So he basically

00:54:10.040 got me on a

00:54:11.820 love line from

00:54:12.700 nowhere.

00:54:14.100 I was a poor

00:54:15.280 guy from the

00:54:16.020 San Fernando

00:54:16.520 Valley.

00:54:17.120 I drove a

00:54:17.520 truck and I

00:54:18.740 worked on

00:54:19.100 construction sites.

00:54:20.420 But I think

00:54:20.700 that's what gives

00:54:21.620 you your PhD

00:54:22.340 in life.

00:54:23.780 It's one thing

00:54:24.960 not to go to

00:54:25.760 college but look

00:54:26.380 at these

00:54:26.620 colleges now.

00:54:27.500 Even now my

00:54:28.340 oldest child is

00:54:29.380 11 and in

00:54:30.900 fifth grade I'm

00:54:32.000 already worried

00:54:32.740 about where we're

00:54:33.240 going to send

00:54:33.620 him.

00:54:34.040 I don't want

00:54:34.900 him indoctrinated

00:54:36.360 into far left

00:54:37.820 thinking.

00:54:39.160 We're not far

00:54:40.400 left people.

00:54:41.040 We're not far

00:54:41.460 right people

00:54:42.040 either.

00:54:42.560 I want them

00:54:43.700 to keep their

00:54:44.240 politics to

00:54:44.820 themselves and

00:54:45.860 to teach him

00:54:46.420 studies, actual

00:54:48.360 subjects, science,

00:54:50.180 real science, not

00:54:51.280 something that goes

00:54:52.380 with well I think

00:54:53.580 I'm a flower so

00:54:54.960 I'm a flower or

00:54:55.980 I'm an octopus so

00:54:56.860 I'm an octopus.

00:54:58.080 I think more and

00:54:59.760 more people are

00:55:00.280 going to choose

00:55:00.920 alternate avenues

00:55:02.480 of educating

00:55:03.460 themselves versus

00:55:04.900 these colleges.

00:55:07.220 I do want to

00:55:08.020 go ahead.

00:55:09.140 I just want to

00:55:10.040 add for people

00:55:11.800 who are kind of

00:55:12.420 thinking about it

00:55:13.300 there is a

00:55:15.540 bigger picture

00:55:16.400 which is you

00:55:17.360 want your kid

00:55:18.660 educated.

00:55:19.740 everyone always

00:55:22.640 talks about

00:55:23.500 the environment

00:55:24.580 the social

00:55:25.420 environment

00:55:26.020 education

00:55:27.420 so on and

00:55:28.140 so forth.

00:55:28.940 There's a really

00:55:29.620 big part of

00:55:30.640 being a kid

00:55:31.300 which is you

00:55:31.920 want your kid

00:55:32.660 to be happy.

00:55:34.560 You really do.

00:55:35.880 We got rid of

00:55:36.800 that.

00:55:37.200 That's no longer

00:55:38.060 real.

00:55:38.800 When you're

00:55:39.240 11 and

00:55:40.800 AOC is telling

00:55:42.300 you you're not

00:55:43.000 going to see

00:55:43.380 your 23rd

00:55:44.240 birthday and

00:55:45.420 Lena Dunham is

00:55:46.460 explaining that

00:55:47.300 all all people

00:55:48.820 who look like

00:55:49.660 you do is

00:55:50.860 oppress and

00:55:51.900 rape indigenous

00:55:52.660 people.

00:55:53.420 It's kind of

00:55:53.960 hard to enjoy

00:55:55.080 your childhood.

00:55:56.960 So just from

00:55:57.660 that perspective

00:55:58.580 alone why not

00:56:00.740 enjoy your

00:56:01.980 childhood and

00:56:02.840 the when you

00:56:03.580 get indoctrinated

00:56:04.640 like I saw

00:56:05.980 tape of like

00:56:07.280 I don't know

00:56:08.100 I saw news

00:56:08.960 footage of like

00:56:09.580 the women's

00:56:10.320 the women's

00:56:11.320 march from

00:56:11.940 two years ago

00:56:12.880 and I saw

00:56:13.900 these like

00:56:14.360 seven-year-old

00:56:15.160 girls like

00:56:15.960 screaming F

00:56:17.220 Trump as

00:56:18.020 loud as

00:56:18.440 they could

00:56:18.860 and I

00:56:19.160 thought to

00:56:19.480 myself those

00:56:21.140 girls that

00:56:22.040 are screaming

00:56:22.820 F Trump as

00:56:24.520 loud as they

00:56:25.120 can also

00:56:27.060 simultaneously

00:56:28.040 believe in

00:56:29.880 Santa Claus and

00:56:31.520 I thought what

00:56:32.460 a bizarre world

00:56:33.680 like you go

00:56:34.320 home and you

00:56:35.300 think about

00:56:35.840 Santa Claus and

00:56:36.960 then you go

00:56:37.460 out and you

00:56:38.080 hold up a

00:56:38.600 sign and you

00:56:39.340 start screaming

00:56:40.400 and wailing

00:56:41.200 into a camera

00:56:42.520 lens and I

00:56:43.240 thought these

00:56:44.060 are some of

00:56:44.420 the most miserable

00:56:45.240 people I've

00:56:45.880 ever seen in

00:56:46.400 my life and

00:56:46.980 why wouldn't

00:56:47.600 they be

00:56:47.900 miserable they

00:56:48.960 think the

00:56:49.340 world's gonna

00:56:49.880 end they

00:56:50.660 think they're

00:56:51.000 responsible for

00:56:51.880 all evils in

00:56:52.820 the world and

00:56:53.620 they think we

00:56:54.400 live in a

00:56:54.820 society that's

00:56:56.020 culturally and

00:56:56.980 socially racist

00:56:58.020 and has systemic

00:56:58.880 racism and

00:56:59.680 hatred toward

00:57:00.280 women and

00:57:00.820 gays and

00:57:01.280 blacks of

00:57:01.680 course I'd

00:57:02.400 be miserable

00:57:02.860 too if I

00:57:03.460 bought into

00:57:03.900 all that

00:57:04.300 stuff yeah

00:57:04.620 we've tried

00:57:05.420 to not talk

00:57:06.180 politics with

00:57:06.720 our kids at

00:57:07.320 all and if

00:57:09.160 I were ever to

00:57:09.820 go to a

00:57:10.280 march which I

00:57:10.940 have not in

00:57:11.820 my in my

00:57:12.560 past 25 years

00:57:13.940 I would

00:57:15.120 never bring

00:57:15.540 my child I

00:57:16.260 want my

00:57:16.780 children to

00:57:17.180 figure out

00:57:17.540 their own

00:57:17.840 politics over

00:57:18.640 time once

00:57:19.200 they're old

00:57:19.560 enough to

00:57:19.900 understand the

00:57:20.460 issues and I

00:57:21.040 certainly don't

00:57:21.760 want to gin

00:57:22.280 up anger or

00:57:23.920 activate them

00:57:25.120 when they're

00:57:26.120 little when

00:57:27.280 they're little I

00:57:27.840 mean we we

00:57:29.560 have recently

00:57:30.420 changed schools

00:57:31.240 and and we

00:57:32.740 loved our old

00:57:33.360 school don't get

00:57:33.900 me wrong but

00:57:34.900 more and more

00:57:35.600 they started to

00:57:36.340 get activist

00:57:37.540 and our

00:57:38.820 then six-year-old

00:57:40.080 our first

00:57:40.680 year first

00:57:41.320 grader was

00:57:42.360 made to write

00:57:43.060 a letter to

00:57:43.580 the Cleveland

00:57:44.280 Indians objecting

00:57:45.840 to the use of

00:57:46.680 Chief Wahoo on

00:57:47.740 any of their

00:57:48.260 merchandise and

00:57:49.640 all I could

00:57:50.120 think was who

00:57:51.140 gave you

00:57:51.520 permission to

00:57:52.140 activate my

00:57:52.840 child he

00:57:54.000 lives in New

00:57:54.620 York City he's

00:57:55.620 got to deal with

00:57:56.240 buses and

00:57:56.840 subways and

00:57:57.380 traffic and

00:57:58.060 homeless people

00:57:58.760 and it's a

00:57:59.360 challenge being

00:58:00.140 an urban kid

00:58:00.920 and who gave

00:58:02.140 you the

00:58:02.560 permission to

00:58:03.140 give him one

00:58:03.740 more thing to

00:58:04.540 get upset

00:58:05.220 about I just I

00:58:07.400 don't think it's

00:58:07.980 appropriate at

00:58:08.820 that age and I

00:58:09.560 certainly wouldn't

00:58:10.060 be bringing my

00:58:10.620 kids to protest I

00:58:11.620 know people do

00:58:12.200 it for me it I

00:58:14.180 don't think they're

00:58:14.660 ready for it so

00:58:17.640 one other question

00:58:19.320 about the man

00:58:19.780 show because I do

00:58:20.300 have to ask you

00:58:20.900 whether any

00:58:22.060 regrets on that

00:58:22.960 since Jimmy's

00:58:23.760 taken a beating

00:58:24.360 for some of

00:58:25.080 these segments

00:58:25.580 with the women

00:58:26.280 and the boobs

00:58:27.020 jumping up and

00:58:27.720 down on the

00:58:28.080 trampolines and

00:58:29.040 and I have to

00:58:31.520 tell you up

00:58:32.220 front as

00:58:32.740 somebody who is

00:58:33.880 all for female

00:58:34.500 empowerment I

00:58:35.800 I understand

00:58:36.980 it it's comedy

00:58:38.120 it was a

00:58:38.680 different time

00:58:39.460 I think it's

00:58:40.300 very hard to

00:58:40.820 go back now

00:58:41.440 and judge it

00:58:42.620 according to

00:58:43.400 these politically

00:58:44.120 correct woke

00:58:45.000 standards but how

00:58:46.560 do you see it

00:58:47.180 well no I

00:58:50.260 don't I don't

00:58:50.820 have regrets

00:58:51.720 because as a

00:58:53.480 comedian you

00:58:54.820 really just can't

00:58:55.680 have that gear

00:58:56.560 you say what

00:58:57.500 you think is

00:58:58.000 funny when you

00:58:58.960 think it's funny

00:58:59.680 and then you

00:59:00.160 move on to the

00:59:00.940 next thing you

00:59:02.240 think is funny

00:59:03.180 also if you're

00:59:04.460 a decent human

00:59:05.240 being who has

00:59:05.880 never hurt

00:59:06.520 anybody as I

00:59:07.600 have or haven't

00:59:09.620 then no I

00:59:11.000 don't spend that

00:59:11.720 much time trying

00:59:12.600 to parse out

00:59:14.120 words I said

00:59:15.140 you know 20

00:59:15.840 years ago but

00:59:17.160 people need to

00:59:18.080 understand and

00:59:19.820 and I don't

00:59:20.680 think enough

00:59:21.100 people do which

00:59:22.840 is I think a lot

00:59:23.920 of people have an

00:59:24.740 idea of what the

00:59:26.160 man show was and

00:59:27.660 the idea of what

00:59:28.600 the man show was

00:59:29.460 is me and Jimmy

00:59:30.160 sit there and

00:59:31.060 swill beer and

00:59:32.040 watch girls jump

00:59:33.100 it on trampolines

00:59:34.140 and make crass

00:59:35.140 remarks if that

00:59:36.860 was the format it

00:59:38.080 would have never

00:59:38.580 worked what worked

00:59:40.520 about the man

00:59:41.280 show is it was

00:59:42.460 really a comedy

00:59:44.020 sketch show that

00:59:45.980 had this theme

00:59:47.800 of the man show

00:59:48.620 but the bits were

00:59:50.020 interesting comedy

00:59:51.200 bits and Jimmy

00:59:53.340 and I always

00:59:55.340 understood and

00:59:56.360 everyone understood

00:59:57.920 that we would

01:00:00.020 always end up

01:00:01.260 being the losers

01:00:02.260 sort of like

01:00:03.200 Benny Hill

01:00:04.040 we kind of

01:00:04.940 based a lot of

01:00:05.720 it on Benny

01:00:06.340 Hill

01:00:06.560 Benny Hill

01:00:07.180 never got the

01:00:08.600 girl

01:00:09.020 Benny Hill

01:00:10.260 never slayed

01:00:11.580 the bully

01:00:12.200 Benny Hill

01:00:13.300 was always

01:00:14.980 Charlie

01:00:15.640 trying to

01:00:16.240 trying to

01:00:17.460 kick the

01:00:18.060 Charlie Brown

01:00:20.240 trying to kick

01:00:20.940 the football

01:00:21.580 and getting it

01:00:22.120 pulled out at the

01:00:22.780 end and Jimmy

01:00:23.520 and I knew

01:00:24.400 that if we

01:00:25.840 challenged a

01:00:27.580 couple of the

01:00:28.080 juggies to a

01:00:28.820 basketball game

01:00:29.820 and we won

01:00:30.920 we knew it

01:00:32.480 wouldn't be funny

01:00:33.320 we knew that we

01:00:34.300 always had to be

01:00:35.560 the loser

01:00:36.460 and the butt

01:00:37.880 of the joke

01:00:38.880 in the comedy

01:00:40.240 that if we won

01:00:41.360 it wasn't a

01:00:42.100 comedy

01:00:42.540 so people think

01:00:44.720 it's like all

01:00:45.280 about us just

01:00:45.940 sitting there

01:00:46.500 and the girls

01:00:47.000 adoring us

01:00:47.640 we never got

01:00:48.920 the girl

01:00:49.340 we never

01:00:49.820 we were always

01:00:50.720 the butt

01:00:51.220 of the joke

01:00:52.020 that's why the

01:00:52.740 show was funny

01:00:53.580 people don't

01:00:54.380 realize

01:00:54.760 they think it's

01:00:55.260 just a format

01:00:55.960 it was it

01:00:56.780 had a lot

01:00:57.540 it was about

01:00:58.480 the humor

01:00:59.060 even now you

01:01:00.200 go I love

01:01:00.900 the comedy

01:01:01.300 seller here

01:01:01.800 in New York

01:01:02.800 and you go

01:01:03.560 there and

01:01:03.900 when you see

01:01:04.380 a comedian

01:01:05.140 who's trying

01:01:05.760 to censor

01:01:06.300 himself so

01:01:07.140 that he

01:01:07.520 can stay

01:01:07.900 within the

01:01:08.360 right rails

01:01:09.160 on politically

01:01:10.180 correct subjects

01:01:10.940 it's painful

01:01:12.020 it used to

01:01:13.020 be you could

01:01:13.940 make inappropriate

01:01:14.920 jokes and

01:01:15.800 people understood

01:01:16.540 that they were

01:01:16.980 jokes and if

01:01:17.660 you don't want

01:01:18.080 to hear them

01:01:18.440 you shouldn't

01:01:19.340 hang out at

01:01:20.000 the comedy

01:01:20.420 clubs you

01:01:20.900 should go

01:01:21.220 someplace else

01:01:21.740 go to the

01:01:22.160 library sit

01:01:23.140 by yourself

01:01:24.120 with the

01:01:24.580 newly

01:01:25.260 you know

01:01:26.820 books that

01:01:27.480 have been

01:01:27.820 approved by

01:01:28.500 some unknown

01:01:29.620 woke god

01:01:31.180 who's now

01:01:32.040 censoring

01:01:32.560 publications

01:01:33.280 I think

01:01:34.500 little house

01:01:35.260 on the prairie

01:01:36.000 well certainly

01:01:37.360 no awards

01:01:38.100 from anybody

01:01:39.300 who's connected

01:01:39.860 to Laura Ingalls

01:01:40.600 Wilder

01:01:41.140 so I

01:01:42.820 I wondered

01:01:43.520 about that

01:01:44.020 I mean I

01:01:44.340 I know that

01:01:45.260 you and Jimmy

01:01:46.260 are friends

01:01:46.880 I think a

01:01:47.940 I like it

01:01:48.560 because you're

01:01:49.480 clearly on the

01:01:50.320 right someplace

01:01:51.260 center right

01:01:52.000 or right

01:01:52.400 and he's

01:01:53.040 obviously on the

01:01:53.780 left

01:01:54.120 I do

01:01:55.160 wonder whether

01:01:55.860 how does

01:01:56.900 it work

01:01:57.340 because I

01:01:57.800 think he

01:01:58.420 takes more

01:01:58.980 he takes

01:01:59.820 more shit

01:02:00.260 for the

01:02:00.720 man show

01:02:01.140 than you

01:02:01.500 do I

01:02:02.300 think because

01:02:02.840 he wound

01:02:03.140 up on the

01:02:03.480 left and

01:02:04.140 he says

01:02:04.580 mean things

01:02:05.360 about Republicans

01:02:06.020 he says

01:02:06.540 stuff like

01:02:07.680 you all

01:02:08.740 the talk show

01:02:09.360 hosts are

01:02:09.760 liberal because

01:02:10.320 it requires

01:02:10.860 a level of

01:02:11.380 intelligence and

01:02:12.400 then everybody

01:02:12.780 on the right

01:02:13.320 is like

01:02:14.420 screw you

01:02:15.600 you signed

01:02:16.780 up for these

01:02:17.360 people and

01:02:18.100 these are the

01:02:18.520 people who are

01:02:18.940 trying to shame

01:02:19.460 us and look at

01:02:20.080 all the stuff

01:02:20.440 you did but

01:02:21.300 you haven't

01:02:21.740 turned into a

01:02:22.320 scold so you

01:02:23.220 don't get

01:02:23.560 it well

01:02:25.280 I there's

01:02:27.260 two things

01:02:27.920 a no one

01:02:28.900 cares about

01:02:29.460 me be I

01:02:31.000 just don't

01:02:31.580 apologize to

01:02:32.520 anybody I

01:02:33.000 just tell

01:02:33.400 everyone I

01:02:33.800 don't care

01:02:35.400 well I

01:02:37.340 would I

01:02:37.880 have a

01:02:38.980 14 year old

01:02:39.640 daughter you

01:02:40.980 know we I've

01:02:42.020 raised my voice

01:02:42.860 to her in the

01:02:44.520 past sometimes

01:02:45.360 some words

01:02:46.340 slipped out in

01:02:47.320 the heat of

01:02:47.840 battle and

01:02:48.460 then I

01:02:48.740 apologize to

01:02:49.680 her the

01:02:50.740 following day

01:02:51.480 so I'm

01:02:52.000 not above

01:02:53.620 apologizing to

01:02:55.000 anybody but I

01:02:55.880 don't apologize

01:02:56.440 to the mob

01:02:57.380 and I don't

01:02:58.440 apologize for

01:02:59.360 work that I've

01:03:00.240 done and I'm

01:03:01.160 not in charge

01:03:01.760 of your feelings

01:03:02.480 so you're in

01:03:03.900 charge of your

01:03:04.320 feelings I can't

01:03:05.180 fix your feelings

01:03:05.960 and by the way

01:03:06.580 you don't want me

01:03:07.760 to apologize

01:03:08.400 because your

01:03:09.560 feelings are hurt

01:03:10.360 or because you're

01:03:10.940 offended you want

01:03:11.740 me to apologize

01:03:13.200 because you want

01:03:14.100 power over me

01:03:15.280 you want

01:03:15.900 you want

01:03:16.240 someone to bend

01:03:17.820 the knee

01:03:18.200 yes you

01:03:19.520 have no

01:03:19.920 interest in

01:03:20.680 my apology

01:03:21.320 other than

01:03:22.060 to bend

01:03:22.780 my knee

01:03:23.300 to you

01:03:23.740 because you

01:03:24.160 have a

01:03:24.440 narcissistic

01:03:25.300 disorder

01:03:25.920 and I'm

01:03:26.700 not interested

01:03:27.260 in being

01:03:28.420 involved in

01:03:29.360 this weird

01:03:29.980 little play

01:03:31.040 where I'm

01:03:32.040 cast in the

01:03:32.860 role of

01:03:33.940 the male

01:03:34.980 who has to

01:03:35.940 apologize to

01:03:36.920 you because

01:03:37.880 you're casting

01:03:38.700 some sort of

01:03:40.060 diorama of

01:03:41.580 a narcissistic

01:03:42.900 disorder go

01:03:43.660 talk to a

01:03:44.300 therapist

01:03:44.800 right

01:03:46.080 so what

01:03:47.620 I have to

01:03:48.260 ask you

01:03:48.860 before I

01:03:49.220 let you

01:03:49.460 go

01:03:49.700 what

01:03:50.260 your

01:03:51.300 thoughts

01:03:51.700 are

01:03:51.980 on

01:03:52.440 podcasting

01:03:53.400 you are

01:03:53.900 you have

01:03:54.560 become

01:03:55.200 one of

01:03:56.340 if not

01:03:56.780 the

01:03:57.200 most

01:03:57.820 powerful

01:03:58.660 podcaster

01:03:59.420 certainly

01:04:00.660 doing

01:04:01.060 political

01:04:01.480 commentary

01:04:01.900 after Joe

01:04:02.720 Rogan

01:04:03.020 he's

01:04:03.380 he's

01:04:03.680 number

01:04:03.860 one

01:04:04.180 but

01:04:05.000 you're

01:04:05.340 hugely

01:04:05.780 successful

01:04:06.380 the

01:04:06.720 number

01:04:07.000 of

01:04:07.180 downloads

01:04:07.580 you

01:04:07.760 guys

01:04:07.920 get

01:04:08.140 is

01:04:08.420 staggering

01:04:09.180 so

01:04:10.180 now

01:04:10.360 I'm

01:04:10.600 just

01:04:10.800 a

01:04:11.020 neophyte

01:04:12.300 here

01:04:12.660 in this

01:04:12.960 business

01:04:13.320 so

01:04:13.920 what's

01:04:14.200 your

01:04:14.300 advice

01:04:14.620 for me

01:04:16.080 well

01:04:17.100 you're

01:04:17.300 off

01:04:17.480 to a

01:04:17.740 great

01:04:17.920 start

01:04:18.320 with

01:04:18.540 guests

01:04:18.880 like

01:04:19.160 me

01:04:19.420 Megan

01:04:19.740 you know

01:04:22.160 I

01:04:22.520 don't

01:04:23.400 I

01:04:23.640 think

01:04:24.180 I

01:04:25.240 think

01:04:25.720 this

01:04:26.120 is

01:04:26.300 the

01:04:26.460 place

01:04:26.820 you

01:04:27.020 go

01:04:27.520 to

01:04:28.440 really

01:04:29.040 explore

01:04:30.000 ideas

01:04:30.820 and

01:04:31.660 you've

01:04:32.200 done

01:04:32.380 enough

01:04:32.700 TV

01:04:33.120 and

01:04:33.440 I've

01:04:33.760 done

01:04:33.920 enough

01:04:34.220 TV

01:04:34.620 to

01:04:34.960 know

01:04:35.280 that

01:04:35.680 you're

01:04:36.720 kind

01:04:36.940 of

01:04:37.020 on

01:04:37.200 the

01:04:37.340 clock

01:04:37.820 you

01:04:38.240 know

01:04:38.460 I've

01:04:39.160 done

01:04:39.340 enough

01:04:39.600 terrestrial

01:04:40.040 radio

01:04:40.540 where

01:04:40.860 everything

01:04:41.080 gets

01:04:41.320 broken

01:04:41.920 down

01:04:42.480 and

01:04:43.260 it's

01:04:43.460 literally

01:04:43.880 on

01:04:44.300 the

01:04:44.460 clock

01:04:44.840 you know

01:04:45.360 and I

01:04:46.160 think

01:04:46.400 this is

01:04:47.300 the

01:04:47.440 place

01:04:47.720 you go

01:04:48.220 to

01:04:49.020 really

01:04:49.820 explore

01:04:50.880 ideas

01:04:51.660 not

01:04:52.140 unlike

01:04:52.780 what we

01:04:53.360 just

01:04:53.760 have

01:04:54.320 done

01:04:54.620 for the

01:04:54.960 last

01:04:55.280 hour

01:04:55.620 and

01:04:56.460 I

01:04:57.380 think

01:04:57.620 it's

01:04:57.880 good

01:04:58.460 if

01:04:58.920 you

01:04:59.320 are

01:05:00.040 thoughtful

01:05:00.500 you

01:05:01.100 are

01:05:01.420 and

01:05:01.720 you

01:05:01.920 really

01:05:02.720 want

01:05:03.160 the

01:05:03.800 freedom

01:05:04.360 to

01:05:05.460 explore

01:05:06.500 ideas

01:05:07.280 I

01:05:07.580 think

01:05:08.260 you

01:05:10.780 cannot

01:05:11.400 think

01:05:12.020 to

01:05:12.180 yourself

01:05:12.620 what

01:05:13.140 does

01:05:13.420 the

01:05:13.620 audience

01:05:14.020 want

01:05:14.440 to

01:05:14.640 hear

01:05:14.940 you

01:05:15.180 have

01:05:15.440 to

01:05:15.580 think

01:05:15.920 to

01:05:16.040 yourself

01:05:16.400 what

01:05:16.840 am

01:05:17.000 I

01:05:17.260 interested

01:05:17.840 in

01:05:18.240 and

01:05:18.500 then

01:05:18.680 how

01:05:18.980 do

01:05:19.120 I

01:05:19.240 make

01:05:19.420 that

01:05:19.620 interested

01:05:20.120 to

01:05:21.000 my

01:05:21.320 audience

01:05:21.940 or

01:05:22.360 growing

01:05:23.160 audience

01:05:23.680 that

01:05:23.880 maybe

01:05:24.120 hasn't

01:05:24.600 heard

01:05:25.240 these

01:05:25.540 ideas

01:05:26.060 so

01:05:26.740 it's

01:05:27.220 super

01:05:27.580 organic

01:05:28.240 it's

01:05:29.380 it's

01:05:29.660 I

01:05:30.020 wish

01:05:30.540 I

01:05:30.800 you know

01:05:31.000 I

01:05:31.140 feel

01:05:31.440 I

01:05:31.780 feel

01:05:32.040 like

01:05:32.360 a

01:05:32.620 personal

01:05:33.040 trainer

01:05:33.660 and

01:05:34.180 a

01:05:34.360 nutritionist

01:05:35.420 just

01:05:35.660 going

01:05:35.900 diet

01:05:36.340 and

01:05:36.520 exercise

01:05:36.960 and

01:05:37.400 you

01:05:37.520 going

01:05:37.800 yeah

01:05:38.160 but

01:05:38.360 I'm

01:05:38.540 looking

01:05:38.740 for

01:05:38.960 I'm

01:05:39.740 looking

01:05:39.900 for

01:05:40.140 I

01:05:41.640 want

01:05:41.940 a

01:05:42.100 tip

01:05:42.440 and

01:05:43.000 I'm

01:05:43.140 going

01:05:43.320 diet

01:05:43.980 and

01:05:44.160 exercise

01:05:44.540 like

01:05:45.160 there

01:05:45.500 really

01:05:46.100 isn't

01:05:46.400 anything

01:05:46.720 to

01:05:47.080 it

01:05:47.220 you're

01:05:47.500 good

01:05:47.920 you

01:05:48.900 have

01:05:49.200 a

01:05:49.360 voice

01:05:49.800 you

01:05:50.120 have

01:05:50.400 thoughts

01:05:50.920 and

01:05:51.320 then

01:05:51.440 it

01:05:51.580 just

01:05:51.760 becomes

01:05:52.100 about

01:05:52.400 consistency

01:05:53.160 if

01:05:57.000 it's

01:05:57.400 all

01:05:57.560 about

01:05:57.780 what

01:05:57.960 I

01:05:58.100 really

01:05:58.400 want

01:05:58.640 to

01:05:58.740 know

01:05:59.000 given

01:05:59.320 your

01:05:59.620 background

01:06:00.040 I'm

01:06:00.340 asking

01:06:00.660 you

01:06:00.860 one

01:06:01.000 more

01:06:01.140 question

01:06:01.560 given

01:06:02.360 your

01:06:02.620 time

01:06:02.940 on

01:06:03.160 Loveline

01:06:03.740 Dr.

01:06:04.260 Drew

01:06:04.540 your

01:06:04.940 expertise

01:06:05.560 you

01:06:05.860 developed

01:06:06.220 on the

01:06:06.500 air

01:06:06.700 there

01:06:06.980 say

01:06:07.980 you've

01:06:08.320 been

01:06:08.520 married

01:06:08.920 for

01:06:09.380 you

01:06:10.020 know

01:06:10.220 I

01:06:10.920 don't

01:06:11.040 know

01:06:11.280 how

01:06:12.000 many

01:06:12.160 years

01:06:12.400 have

01:06:12.540 I

01:06:12.640 been

01:06:12.820 married

01:06:13.100 now

01:06:13.400 12

01:06:14.120 years

01:06:14.600 and

01:06:15.300 you

01:06:15.520 want

01:06:15.880 to

01:06:16.020 surprise

01:06:16.540 your

01:06:16.820 husband

01:06:17.200 with

01:06:17.700 something

01:06:18.160 spicy

01:06:18.660 but

01:06:19.840 you

01:06:20.020 don't

01:06:20.300 get

01:06:20.560 too

01:06:20.800 far

01:06:21.040 out

01:06:21.240 there

01:06:23.160 headlines

01:06:23.600 if

01:06:23.900 somebody

01:06:24.280 were to

01:06:24.520 see

01:06:24.640 through

01:06:24.800 your

01:06:24.940 windows

01:06:25.180 but

01:06:25.420 you

01:06:25.520 want

01:06:25.700 to

01:06:25.800 spice

01:06:26.100 it

01:06:26.240 up

01:06:26.380 a

01:06:26.500 little

01:06:26.660 what

01:06:27.640 should

01:06:27.840 I

01:06:27.960 do

01:06:28.180 wow

01:06:29.840 old

01:06:31.080 school

01:06:31.400 love

01:06:31.740 line

01:06:32.000 question

01:06:32.420 well

01:06:32.740 you

01:06:33.020 know

01:06:33.180 what

01:06:33.360 I

01:06:33.560 I

01:06:34.560 always

01:06:35.120 kind

01:06:35.440 of

01:06:35.560 feel

01:06:35.900 like

01:06:36.260 you

01:06:36.700 know

01:06:37.060 your

01:06:37.320 husband's

01:06:38.220 proclivities

01:06:39.260 like

01:06:39.680 you know

01:06:40.300 what

01:06:40.640 that

01:06:40.920 guy

01:06:41.200 likes

01:06:41.820 you

01:06:42.020 know

01:06:42.280 like

01:06:43.220 maybe

01:06:44.180 he

01:06:45.300 loves

01:06:45.720 watching

01:06:46.220 ESPN

01:06:46.980 so

01:06:48.020 you

01:06:48.220 let him

01:06:48.580 keep

01:06:48.840 the

01:06:49.040 TV

01:06:49.360 on

01:06:49.800 this

01:06:50.100 round

01:06:50.500 you

01:06:50.840 know

01:06:51.100 maybe

01:06:52.700 you

01:06:53.700 know

01:06:53.900 he

01:06:54.080 loves

01:06:54.380 barbecue

01:06:55.100 keep

01:06:57.160 that

01:06:57.440 out

01:06:57.620 of

01:06:57.700 the

01:06:57.840 bedroom

01:06:58.260 I'm

01:06:59.100 trying

01:06:59.380 to

01:06:59.540 think

01:06:59.760 my

01:07:00.060 feeling

01:07:00.580 is

01:07:00.920 I

01:07:02.120 think

01:07:02.640 a lot

01:07:03.140 of

01:07:03.280 couples

01:07:03.680 think

01:07:04.120 I'm

01:07:04.980 going

01:07:05.280 to

01:07:05.800 do

01:07:06.400 this

01:07:06.960 for

01:07:07.860 him

01:07:08.200 like

01:07:08.420 I'm

01:07:08.700 gonna

01:07:08.840 buy

01:07:09.720 a

01:07:09.960 negligee

01:07:10.700 for

01:07:10.960 him

01:07:11.380 but

01:07:12.040 like

01:07:12.340 if

01:07:12.560 the

01:07:12.740 guy

01:07:13.040 doesn't

01:07:13.500 really

01:07:13.980 like

01:07:14.540 lingerie

01:07:15.440 as it

01:07:16.240 turns out

01:07:16.760 he likes

01:07:17.140 ESPN

01:07:17.820 and

01:07:18.120 barbecued

01:07:18.740 baby

01:07:19.080 back

01:07:19.460 pork

01:07:20.060 ribs

01:07:20.460 then

01:07:21.000 give

01:07:21.380 him

01:07:21.580 give

01:07:22.180 him

01:07:22.360 that

01:07:22.660 I

01:07:23.340 say

01:07:23.780 figure

01:07:24.560 out

01:07:24.780 what

01:07:24.940 he

01:07:25.060 wants

01:07:25.400 if

01:07:25.660 you're

01:07:25.840 looking

01:07:26.040 to

01:07:26.240 spice

01:07:26.620 it

01:07:26.800 up

01:07:27.140 on

01:07:28.080 your

01:07:28.280 13th

01:07:29.180 anniversary

01:07:29.740 and

01:07:30.560 just

01:07:30.860 make

01:07:31.860 it

01:07:32.060 make

01:07:32.720 it

01:07:32.860 all

01:07:33.060 about

01:07:33.360 him

01:07:33.660 I'll

01:07:35.020 let

01:07:35.160 you

01:07:35.300 know

01:07:35.440 how

01:07:35.620 it

01:07:35.780 goes

01:07:36.100 please

01:07:37.860 send

01:07:38.200 me

01:07:38.340 pictures

01:07:38.840 great

01:07:39.580 great

01:07:40.340 to have

01:07:40.800 you

01:07:40.960 Adam

01:07:41.200 thanks

01:07:41.720 I

01:07:42.000 appreciate

01:07:42.340 it

01:07:42.720 thanks

01:07:43.580 Megan

01:07:43.940 all

01:07:44.640 best

01:07:44.960 our

01:07:51.100 thanks

01:07:51.360 to

01:07:51.480 Adam

01:07:51.680 Carolla

01:07:52.060 for

01:07:52.380 being

01:07:52.620 with

01:07:52.800 us

01:07:52.940 and

01:07:53.020 our

01:07:53.140 thanks

01:07:53.340 to

01:07:53.480 you

01:07:53.600 for

01:07:53.780 listening

01:07:54.040 to

01:07:54.220 the

01:07:54.340 Megan

01:07:54.520 Kelly

01:07:54.740 show

01:07:55.100 we

01:07:55.920 would

01:07:56.160 love

01:07:56.300 it

01:07:56.400 if

01:07:56.500 you

01:07:56.580 would

01:07:56.700 subscribe

01:07:57.000 to

01:07:57.220 the

01:07:57.340 show

01:07:57.540 just

01:07:57.800 go

01:07:58.140 on

01:07:58.260 over

01:07:58.480 download

01:07:58.860 it

01:07:59.060 subscribe

01:07:59.360 to

01:07:59.660 it

01:07:59.820 and

01:08:00.160 give

01:08:00.380 it

01:08:00.480 a

01:08:00.560 five

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The Megyn Kelly Show - October 05, 2020

Adam Carolla on Cancel Culture, The Trump Era Media and Blackface ｜ Ep. 5

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