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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Monday, September 14th, 2026, and this is your

00:00:38.440 AM Update. I think the government and the public needs to have a stake. There was an organized PR

00:00:44.820 campaign here. The great AI debate erupting across Silicon Valley and Washington as industry leaders

00:00:50.880 call for slowing development, while critics question whether safety or self-interest is

00:00:56.760 driving the push. We're really fortunate that God was looking after us last night. Congressman Tom

00:01:03.780 Tiffany surviving an emergency landing in a Wisconsin lake after his plane experienced a

00:01:09.900 mechanical failure. A Colorado forensic scientist sentenced to a decade behind bars for years of

00:01:17.200 manipulating DNA data. Shortcuts reportedly taken to close cases faster, now casting doubt on

00:01:23.940 hundreds of investigations. And the U.S. Open comes to an end with two big finals matches.

00:01:31.220 Sadly, no American won. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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00:02:26.440 will be here before you know it. Text MK to 989898 now. A great debate over the future of

00:02:34.380 artificial intelligence now unfolding across Silicon Valley, Washington, and the internet

00:02:39.480 as technology leaders and lawmakers clash over whether slowing its development would protect

00:02:45.420 humanity or sacrifice America's lead over China. The argument bursting into public view last week,

00:02:52.040 big time, with Anthropic researcher Jacob Coxson resigning from the company,

00:02:56.840 following AI research at both Anthropic and top competitor OpenAI. Coxson accusing both

00:03:03.440 companies of racing towards self-improving superintelligence, the still theoretical point

00:03:08.640 at which AI becomes more capable than the most intelligent human beings and begins accelerating

00:03:14.940 its own development. The researcher warning the companies are, quote, gambling with our lives,

00:03:20.900 while claiming many of the people building the technology privately believe it could wipe out

00:03:25.440 humanity before the end of the decade. Two senior anthropic researchers publicly supporting the

00:03:31.760 warning, including the head of the company's alignment or ethics team, Evan Hubinger, who

00:03:38.360 places the risk of AI killing every human at greater than 10% over the next decade. Those

00:03:44.520 warnings gaining new urgency after Anthropic released a report Thursday documenting how its

00:03:50.020 CLAWD models were misused between December and August for cyberattacks, surveillance, fraud,

00:03:56.340 influence campaigns, and weapons development. One operation reportedly using CLAWD to create

00:04:01.880 more than 4,700 fake dating profiles had exchanged millions of messages with unsuspecting users.

00:04:09.040 Anthropic CEO Dario Amadei releasing a proposal over the weekend to, quote,

00:04:13.620 haste the frontier, arguing AI capabilities are advancing faster than researchers can reliably

00:04:19.460 understand or control. Amadei proposing permanent access for independent evaluators inside the

00:04:26.500 leading AI companies, common safety standards among developers in democratic countries,

00:04:32.240 and eventual international agreements limiting the most dangerous uses of the technology.

00:04:38.120 Anthropic unilaterally committing to the first step, promising outside evaluators,

00:04:42.960 employee-level access to its systems and training processes. OpenAI CEO Sam Altman announcing his

00:04:50.840 company will do the same, while Elon Musk, who operates the competing AI company XAI,

00:04:57.240 expressing agreement with Amadei's broader call to slow the pace of development. Amadei yesterday

00:05:03.120 on CBS explicitly calling for government regulation of the AI industry. It has always

00:05:09.600 been very strange that this technology is being built by a private company. People ask me that

00:05:16.640 question all the time. Why isn't this being built by government? I think the government and the

00:05:21.160 public needs to have a stake. And this is why we've supported regulation of the technology.

00:05:27.240 Regulation constrains the private companies. Regulation allows the public and its elected

00:05:34.340 representatives to have a say and limits what the private companies can do.

00:05:41.420 President Trump's former AI czar, David Sachs, supporting the company's right to slow their

00:05:46.700 own development while rejecting the argument that they need a new government framework to do it.

00:05:51.940 Sachs noting Anthropic and OpenAI already control much of the market for the most advanced AI,

00:05:57.800 arguing the two companies could simply agree not to build superintelligence rather than asking the

00:06:03.060 government to protect their coordination from antitrust laws. Sacks writing, quote,

00:06:08.020 stop pretending you need anyone else's permission. Stop pretending antitrust law has to be suspended

00:06:13.260 so you can form a cartel. Sacks expanding on that point of view Friday on the All In podcast.

00:06:20.000 I think it's very clear based on who amplified this post and when they did it,

00:06:24.660 that there was an organized PR campaign here, right? This wasn't just a random

00:06:28.140 resignation. What I'm saying is there's a lot of like overlapping agendas here where some people

00:06:34.040 have an economic interest and some people have a power interest and there's going to be a division

00:06:38.060 of the spoils. In their view of the world, AI is going to be very centralized. We're going to have

00:06:43.160 a duopoly. The duopoly reaps the economic benefits and they give big political donations

00:06:48.460 and they'll do the dirty work of suppressing speech because again, on that side of the ledger,

00:06:53.900 you can circumvent the First Amendment. And then on the government side of the ledger,

00:06:58.360 you'll have those people who exercise control over our lives.

00:07:02.680 President Trump sounding less likely to favor government regulation when

00:07:06.500 asked by a reporter about it yesterday.

00:07:09.080 We're leading China in AI. We're the most sophisticated country in the world.

00:07:13.640 And frankly, I want to keep it that way, because whoever wins AI wins.

00:07:17.820 And we can put guardrails, we can do this and that. But I think you have a lot of negative

00:07:21.920 forces that are bringing it up, that shouldn't be bringing it up, and they're bringing up things

00:07:27.460 that won't happen. But whoever wins with AI wins. Some Democrats arguing the government

00:07:33.420 cannot afford to wait. The New York Times reporting former President Barack Obama recently urged

00:07:38.760 House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries to begin developing a clear AI policy framework. Mr. Obama

00:07:45.120 warning privately developed technology moving this quickly could become dangerous if elected

00:07:50.020 leaders fail to manage it. Mr. Jeffries yesterday on ABC calling for Congress to intervene.

00:07:56.500 I agree with my colleagues that we actually need to act urgently. And unfortunately,

00:08:00.240 House Republicans have effectively canceled the last two weeks of the legislative session

00:08:05.040 scheduled for this month, which is something that they've repeatedly done. We should take

00:08:10.660 decisive action now so that we can slow down, as the CEOs have recently acknowledged, slow down

00:08:17.380 the pace of development in order to protect the American people and ensure that AI is proceeding

00:08:23.740 safely. House Speaker Mike Johnson yesterday on NBC outlining a different approach.

00:08:29.780 We have to put some guardrails, some safety measures in place to ensure that AI doesn't

00:08:36.200 run away. But at the same time, we've got to make sure that we don't lose our edge in the global

00:08:41.620 competition on this with China, because that would be a national security threat. And so we've got 0.97

00:08:46.980 to balance that appropriately. Palantir co-founder and prominent Trump donor Joe Lonsdale offering

00:08:52.740 the most optimistic response, urging the public not to become paralyzed by the warnings. Lonsdale

00:08:58.900 writing, quote, the world is going to be all right, guys, adding that leaders face enormous

00:09:03.740 responsibilities, but, quote, it doesn't help to scare everyone. Republican candidate for governor

00:09:10.460 and current congressman from Wisconsin, Tom Tiffany, recovering after surviving a shocking

00:09:16.260 emergency plane landing in a Wisconsin lake Saturday night. Tiffany writing on X, the aircraft

00:09:22.600 lost power as he returned from a Republican dinner in La Crosse County, forcing the pilot to bring

00:09:28.340 the aircraft down on Lake Wausau during the final approach to a nearby airport. Miracle on the

00:09:34.400 Hudson style. The Marathon County Sheriff's Office identifying the aircraft as a Beechcraft K-35,

00:09:40.580 a small, single-engine plane carrying only Congressman Tiffany and the pilot.

00:09:46.680 The sheriff's office describing the apparent cause as a mechanical problem.

00:09:51.360 Tiffany and the pilot calling 911 once they reached the water,

00:09:54.960 then abandoning the aircraft as it sank, swimming toward a shallower part of the lake.

00:09:59.820 Can you imagine?

00:10:01.220 Lake Wausau reaching 30 feet at its deepest, although averaging just 7 feet,

00:10:06.340 the area where the men waited reportedly measuring about 5 feet deep.

00:10:10.400 Firefighters reaching both men by airboat roughly 16 minutes after the initial emergency call

00:10:15.620 before taking them to a local hospital for treatment of minor injuries.

00:10:20.420 Tiffany receiving 12 stitches above his right eye.

00:10:23.260 Both men were released from the hospital later that night.

00:10:26.700 An emotional Congressman Tiffany thanking first responders yesterday at a press conference.

00:10:31.340 We are just really fortunate.

00:10:33.700 We're really fortunate that God was looking after us last night.

00:10:38.220 And we're also really fortunate that the first responders, those behind me, the fire department, the sheriff's department, as well as the city of Wausau police, for their quick response, we're really fortunate for what they did.

00:10:56.100 And I can't thank them enough for helping us in this situation.

00:11:02.420 The Marathon County Sheriff's Office confirming that the FAA and National Transportation Safety

00:11:08.040 Board have been notified and will investigate the incident. Congressman Tiffany preparing to

00:11:13.300 face Democrat David Crowley in November's general election. Crowley responding to the emergency,

00:11:19.100 writing he is, quote, grateful to God that Congressman Tiffany and no one else was hurt

00:11:23.380 in this horrifying incident, which could have been a tragedy if not for the heroism of the pilot.

00:11:29.620 Nothing like a brush with death to put politics in perspective.

00:11:34.620 Coming up, a former Colorado forensic scientist sentenced to prison after manipulating testing data for years.

00:11:42.520 In some cases, reporting that DNA was absent in felony cases when, in fact, it had been detected.

00:11:49.980 And Elena Rybakina and Alexander Zverev capturing the U.S. Open singles titles, capping a championship weekend in New York.

00:11:58.920 We'll be right back.

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00:12:54.700 A former Colorado State forensic scientist sentenced to 10 years in prison after

00:13:01.960 years of manipulating DNA testing data and leaving hundreds of criminal cases under a cloud

00:13:08.260 of doubt. Yvonne Missy Woods found guilty of altering or deleting information produced 0.95

00:13:15.300 during the testing process, concealing problems she had failed to resolve, and in some cases,

00:13:20.980 issuing reports that directly contradicted the underlying DNA data. Investigators ultimately

00:13:27.100 identifying 53 cases involving false or misleading reports attributed to Woods spanning homicide,

00:13:34.400 sexual assault, robbery, and other criminal investigations. Denver 7 reporting Woods

00:13:39.760 manually deleted or lowered laboratory measurements showing how much DNA was present in a sample.

00:13:46.800 The most disturbing examples involving 32 cases of women and children who reported sexual assaults.

00:13:54.580 Prosecutors say Woods removed results showing that male DNA had been detected,

00:13:59.700 then issued reports claiming no male DNA had been found,

00:14:03.520 preventing further testing that might have identified whose DNA it was.

00:14:08.660 Investigators finding similar alterations in the internal records of hundreds of additional cases,

00:14:14.060 although prosecutors say the changes in those cases did not produce false final reports.

00:14:20.220 Woods also issuing false reports in cases where suspects were prosecuted,

00:14:25.000 including a murder trial where she later admitted giving false testimony under oath.

00:14:30.080 The misconduct reportedly coming to light in September of 2023,

00:14:34.220 when an intern discovered missing DNA information in a case Woods had processed five years earlier.

00:14:40.920 A subsequent review revealing that concerns about her work had first surfaced as early as 2014

00:14:46.480 and that Woods was temporarily removed from DNA casework in 2018

00:14:51.340 after being accused of manipulating testing data then.

00:14:55.520 According to an arrest affidavit reviewed by the Associated Press,

00:14:58.920 Woods reportedly telling investigators she changed the data to complete cases more quickly,

00:15:05.400 sometimes removing information that would have required additional troubleshooting or testing.

00:15:10.800 However, she also said, quote,

00:15:12.840 I don't really know why I was doing it.

00:15:15.000 I mean, we could sit here and theorize.

00:15:17.980 She also added, it's almost like there was a disconnect.

00:15:21.900 The scandal already contributing to the reversal of at least one murder conviction,

00:15:26.660 Michael Clark released from prison last year after his attorneys successfully challenged Woods' handling of DNA evidence used in his case.

00:15:35.420 Prosecutors now seeking to try Michael Clark again, according to the AP.

00:15:40.160 Woods worked for the Colorado Bureau of Investigation for nearly three decades before retiring in November 2023.

00:15:47.380 Woods pleading guilty in June to cybercrime, perjury, attempting to influence a public servant, and forgery,

00:15:53.760 resolving more than 100 original charges through an agreement that guaranteed a prison sentence.

00:15:59.820 Woods last Tuesday apologizing in court before learning her sentence.

00:16:04.240 My actions affected not only the integrity of the criminal justice system,

00:16:08.100 but also the people whose lives were touched by the cases in which I worked.

00:16:14.100 I take responsibility for the offenses to which I plead guilty,

00:16:17.580 and I know that an apology cannot undo the harm or restore the trust that was lost.

00:16:23.880 For many years, I was entrusted with evidence that could have profound consequences

00:16:29.240 for defendants, victims, families, and the courts.

00:16:33.540 I failed that responsibility.

00:16:35.440 The Colorado Bureau of Investigation now working to reform its labs and strengthen oversight as

00:16:42.080 authorities continue reviewing affected cases and attempting to rebuild trust in the state's

00:16:47.600 forensic work. Woods also employed by the same state bureau that assisted with evidence testing

00:16:53.400 in the JonBenet Ramsey investigation. Jon Ramsey telling Fox News, however, he does not believe

00:16:59.140 Woods was involved in his daughter's case, as early testing was conducted by an independent

00:17:04.220 laboratory. Elena Rabakina capturing her first U.S. Open championship Saturday night, defeating

00:17:11.860 two-time defending champion Irina Sabalenka in a three-set final at Arthur Ashe Stadium in Queens,

00:17:18.780 New York. The 27-year-old representing Kazakhstan taking the opening set 6-4 before Sabalenka fought 0.94

00:17:25.820 back to win the second 7-5, forcing a decisive third. Rabakina then taking a commanding 5-2 lead

00:17:33.380 in the final set before sealing the championship with a serve Sabalenka could not return. Sabalenka 0.87

00:17:39.880 throwing her racket to the court before meeting Rabakina at the net for a quick hug. Sabalenka 0.85

00:17:45.840 then returning to her bench, smashing the racket against the ground, and appearing to mouth the 0.98

00:17:51.340 words F off to a cameraman as Rabakina celebrated the victory. Rabakina speaking to reporters after

00:17:58.100 the match. It feels amazing. It's still so difficult to process what happened. Too many

00:18:05.200 achievements these few weeks. I'm super happy, very proud of all the work. Yeah, it's just

00:18:15.840 amazing. Difficult to find words, but super happy. The victory earning Rabakina a record

00:18:20.760 $5.5 million prize. Rabakina also becoming the new world number one, replacing Sabalenka at the

00:18:27.480 top of the women's rankings. The loss ending Sabalenka's unbeaten run at the U.S. Open finals

00:18:33.300 dating back to 2024, denying her the chance to join Serena Williams and Chris Everett as the

00:18:39.000 only woman in the Open era to win three consecutive titles in New York. Germany's Alexander Zverev

00:18:46.160 winning his first U.S. Open championship yesterday, defeating American Ben Shelton

00:18:51.320 in four sets. Single tier. The top seeded Zverev taking the first two sets, 6-3 and 7-6, before

00:18:58.300 Shelton fought back to win the third 7-5, keeping his championship hopes alive. Zverev quickly

00:19:04.800 shutting down the comeback, though, pulling away in the fourth set and winning it 6-2 to close out

00:19:10.300 the match. The final point producing an unusual moment, Zverev initially not realizing he had won

00:19:16.440 the championship until his coaches began celebrating from the stands. The victory giving

00:19:21.360 the 29-year-old German his second major championship following his French Open victory earlier this

00:19:27.680 year. Zverev speaking during the trophy presentation. Very first thing I want to start

00:19:32.860 off with Ben. Ben, you're an incredible player, incredible person. This was your first Grand

00:19:39.780 Slam final, but I already told you you're going to be back here many, many more times. And if I

00:19:44.040 have to bet all my money on it i would bet that you would lift this trophy one day shelton falling

00:19:49.480 short of becoming the first american man to win the u.s open since andy roddick in 2003 but winning

00:19:55.560 the hearts of those in attendance at arthur ash stadium in new york first and most importantly

00:20:01.960 i want to thank god my successes are a gift the failures are a gift and being here playing in

00:20:09.000 in front of you guys is a gift.

00:20:11.160 Sasha, congrats on these two weeks, man.

00:20:15.980 Your second Grand Slam title, two in one year.

00:20:19.860 You're one of the very best players in the world,

00:20:21.880 maybe the best player in the world this year.

00:20:24.680 What you're doing is incredible,

00:20:25.900 the way you're serving, the way you're moving and playing.

00:20:29.660 You work harder than anyone I know.

00:20:31.360 You put more hours on the court than anyone I know.

00:20:34.540 You and your team do things the right way.

00:20:36.880 And sincerely happy for you guys to hold this title.

00:20:41.580 Zvera's victory earning him $5.5 million as well,

00:20:45.080 matching the record prize awarded to Rabakina in the Women's Championship.

00:20:51.820 And that'll do it for your AM Update.

00:20:53.840 I'm Megan Kelly.

00:20:54.620 Join me back here for The MK Show,

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AI Regulation Debate Explodes, Congressman Survives Lake Landing, U.S. Open Champs： AM Update 9⧸14

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