The Megyn Kelly Show - September 15, 2026


Pathological： The Casey Anthony Story — Where Is Caylee Marie？ — Ep. 1 ｜ MK Confidential

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37 minutes

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149.69

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5,589

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00:00:00.000 Ford has been lucky enough to spend more than a century with you.
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00:00:16.020 The Anthony family lives in a small, one-story ranch house in the Orlando suburbs.
00:00:21.680 Four bedrooms, two baths, and a screened pool out back.
00:00:25.560 George and Cindy Anthony have called it the family home since 1989.
00:00:30.000 Their house has a pale pink front door with an arched window.
00:00:34.340 There is usually a wreath or a plaque hanging on it,
00:00:37.040 and in the afternoon, the Florida sun comes off the glass in a glare.
00:00:41.780 The family almost never uses the front door.
00:00:44.560 Everyone comes and goes through the garage.
00:00:47.040 So when the mailman tapes a certified letter notice to the front glass,
00:00:51.640 it sits there for four days before anybody sees it.
00:00:55.580 Sunday morning, July 13, 2008.
00:00:59.560 Cindy is out front pulling weeds.
00:01:01.960 She and her husband George have put down new sod in the strip between the sidewalk and the street,
00:01:07.020 and George is off to the side watering it.
00:01:10.440 George and Cindy have been married for 27 years.
00:01:13.720 They have raised two children together, Lee and Casey.
00:01:17.480 The marriage has survived financial trouble and a separation,
00:01:20.700 but they're hanging on, still living in the same house, tending the same yard.
00:01:27.140 Cindy straightens up and stretches her back,
00:01:29.840 working her way back toward the house when the glare shifts
00:01:32.600 and she sees the paper.
00:01:35.060 It said it was a certified letter and it had Johnson's.
00:01:39.120 And when I read it, I didn't know anybody the name of Johnson
00:01:43.180 or Johnson's company, so I went over to George
00:01:46.420 and showed him the notice, and he said he had no clue who Johnson's was.
00:01:50.980 The notice on the door communicates the certified letter
00:01:53.940 is waiting for them at the post office.
00:01:56.340 George tells Cindy he will pick it up on his way to work on Monday, but he doesn't make it there until Tuesday, just before noon.
00:02:05.200 Turns out their certified letter is from Johnson's Wrecker service off Narcosi Road.
00:02:11.080 They have the family's white 1998 Pontiac Sunfire titled to George and Cindy.
00:02:17.060 Their 22-year-old daughter Casey drives the Pontiac every day.
00:02:21.800 Casey has told them she and her three-year-old little girl, Kaylee, are in Jacksonville.
00:02:27.660 George studies the letter, thinking about this.
00:02:30.540 The letter shows that their car has been sitting in the impound lot since June 30th.
00:02:35.740 Today is July 15th.
00:02:38.960 George calls Cindy at work.
00:02:41.260 Neither of them understands how the car can be in Orlando if Casey and Kaylee are in Jacksonville.
00:02:48.300 George drives to Johnson's to find out what happened.
00:02:52.000 A woman at the front counter tells him
00:02:53.680 the Pontiac was found abandoned
00:02:55.640 in a payday loan store parking lot.
00:02:59.500 To get it out of impound will cost nearly $500.
00:03:03.580 George calls Cindy again,
00:03:05.760 and she leaves work around 12.30 or 1.
00:03:08.880 They meet at home, get the car's title,
00:03:11.000 stop at an ATM for $500,
00:03:13.940 and head to the tow yard.
00:03:15.680 It is raining, a steady, misty rain.
00:03:20.360 George and Cindy pay the fee, and George walks back into the tow lot with the manager to get the car.
00:03:27.440 Before they moved to Florida, George spent about a decade working in law enforcement in Ohio,
00:03:32.720 first as a police officer and then as a deputy sheriff.
00:03:36.560 He has smelled human decomposition before.
00:03:40.300 He unlocks the driver's door and gets in.
00:03:43.280 He describes what he found inside to Dr. Phil in 2011.
00:03:48.380 Did you smell something right away?
00:03:49.660 I did notice an odor that I had smelled prior
00:03:53.000 from many years ago in being a law enforcement.
00:03:56.280 And as I unlocked the car,
00:03:57.620 that's when the odor was even more stronger.
00:04:00.500 I was feeling very sick in my stomach.
00:04:03.720 And I was with the trunk.
00:04:05.020 There's nothing back there except a trash bag full of garbage.
00:04:10.480 And I shut it. I was thankful.
00:04:12.040 I didn't see my daughter or my granddaughter there.
00:04:16.560 Your mind went there when you walked to the back of the car?
00:04:19.020 Oh, absolutely it did.
00:04:19.920 The tow yard manager pulls the garbage bag out of the trunk
00:04:23.000 and drops it in the dumpster.
00:04:25.760 George drives the Pontiac around front
00:04:27.740 where Cindy is waiting in her own car,
00:04:30.540 the window down in the rain.
00:04:32.520 He said, we need to get home right now.
00:04:34.940 This car stinks.
00:04:35.760 At the tow yard, Cindy smells nothing.
00:04:38.400 Back home, George pulls the Pontiac into the garage
00:04:41.020 and gets out.
00:04:42.040 Cindy walks toward him, then she smells it.
00:04:46.720 George tells her the car stinks.
00:04:49.280 Cindy starts going through the Pontiac.
00:04:51.720 Inside, she finds a phone number for a young woman named Amy,
00:04:55.780 a friend of Casey's she has never met, and she calls her.
00:05:00.800 Amy knows where Casey is.
00:05:02.960 That evening, Cindy picks Amy up,
00:05:05.600 and they drive about 20 minutes east across Orlando
00:05:08.960 to Sutton Place where Casey's boyfriend, Tony Lazaro, lives.
00:05:14.180 When they get there, Amy walks up to the apartment and knocks
00:05:17.280 while Cindy hangs back just out of sight.
00:05:20.260 When Casey opens the door, Cindy comes around the corner.
00:05:24.560 Get your things, Cindy tells her.
00:05:26.880 You're coming with me.
00:05:29.140 Casey goes back inside to gather a few things
00:05:31.480 while Cindy waits at the doorway.
00:05:33.920 Casey says she'll be coming back.
00:05:36.480 No, get all of your things.
00:05:38.960 A few minutes later, Casey is in the car, but Cindy does not drive home.
00:05:43.900 It is after 8 o'clock that night when Cindy Anthony pulls into the local Orlando police station on Pershing Avenue with Casey in the passenger seat.
00:05:54.480 But the local station is closed, so Cindy calls 911 from her car.
00:05:59.340 What are you trying to accomplish by bringing them to the station?
00:06:02.340 I have a 22-year-old person that has grand theft sitting in my auto.
00:06:08.960 Cindy does not tell the dispatcher her little granddaughter, Kaylee, is missing.
00:06:14.680 Her first call is about Casey stealing a car and stealing money.
00:06:19.000 Their address puts them in the sheriff's jurisdiction,
00:06:22.380 so the dispatcher places Cindy on hold to transfer the call.
00:06:26.100 While she waits, Cindy turns to her daughter.
00:06:28.940 Now the argument is about Kaylee.
00:06:31.800 Cindy is still on the line with 911.
00:06:34.560 The recorder keeps running.
00:06:38.960 and we'll have a court order to get her.
00:06:41.960 If that's where you want to play, we'll do it,
00:06:43.960 and you'll never...
00:06:45.960 Well, then you have...
00:06:47.960 No, I'm not giving you another day.
00:06:49.960 I've given you a month.
00:06:50.960 By this point, Kaylee Anthony is dead.
00:06:53.960 Cindy Anthony is threatening to take custody of a little girl
00:06:57.960 she does not yet know is already gone.
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00:08:27.460 link in the description. Cindy drives back home from the local police station with Casey beside
00:08:34.120 her. It is only about a mile and a half. Cindy does not call her husband, and she does not call
00:08:40.180 her son. She is thinking. As she turns into the subdivision, her son Lee calls. George told him
00:08:47.400 to come home, and he is in the driveway waiting. Cindy pulls into the garage. Casey gets out,
00:08:54.240 walks past her brother without stopping, and goes into the house. Lee follows and asks his mother
00:09:00.480 to let him try. If everybody sits down and Casey calms down, maybe he can get an answer
00:09:06.360 about Kaylee. They sit down together. Lee tries to get his sister to explain where Kaylee
00:09:12.500 is. Casey tells them Kaylee is with Zanny, the nanny, and that she is spending the night
00:09:19.460 there. Cindy tells her they are going to get Kaylee. Casey says it's too late. Kaylee
00:09:25.920 will be asleep already. They can go in the morning. Cindy does not care if it is late.
00:09:31.980 She wants to see her granddaughter. About 15 minutes after her first call to 911,
00:09:38.540 Cindy picks up the phone again. This time, she reaches the Orange County Sheriff's Office.
00:09:44.020 I have someone here that I need to be arrested in my home.
00:09:50.020 They're there right now?
00:09:50.940 I have a possible missing child. I have a three-year-old that's been missing for a month.
00:09:55.280 A three-year-old? Yeah. Have you reported that?
00:09:58.360 I'm trying to do that now, ma'am.
00:10:00.380 The dispatcher tells Cindy a deputy will come when one is available.
00:10:05.240 Cindy hangs up and waits, moving back and forth through the house.
00:10:08.880 I was trying to stay close to the garage in case they came so I could hear them.
00:10:15.760 So I was pacing back and forth between the hallway from the living room to the garage,
00:10:22.400 into the living room to Casey's room
00:10:25.440 and back and forth.
00:10:26.640 I was just pacing
00:10:27.520 because I was getting angrier and angrier
00:10:30.820 and more upset as I was waiting.
00:10:34.420 Lee takes his sister Casey into the bedroom
00:10:36.820 and keeps talking to her.
00:10:38.980 This time she tells him something different.
00:10:41.620 She tells him Kaylee has been gone 31 days
00:10:44.980 and that the nanny took her.
00:10:48.520 Cindy hears part of the conversation
00:10:50.180 through the bedroom door.
00:10:52.400 Lee keeps Casey talking, then lowers his voice so their mother cannot hear the entire conversation.
00:11:00.320 About an hour and a half after that first call to 911, Cindy calls again for the third time that night.
00:11:08.440 There's something wrong. I found my daughter's car today, and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car.
00:11:14.540 The dispatcher asks for the child's name. Kaylee. C-A-Y-L-E-E.
00:11:22.400 Then she asks how long Kaylee has been missing.
00:11:25.960 Cindy says June 7th, but she is wrong.
00:11:29.860 Kaylee was seen alive more than a week after that.
00:11:33.880 Then the dispatcher asks to speak to Casey.
00:11:37.060 Can you tell me a little bit what's going on?
00:11:39.480 My daughter's been missing for the last 31 days.
00:11:44.360 And you know who has her?
00:11:46.560 I know who has her. I've tried to contact her.
00:11:49.080 I actually received a phone call today now from a number that is no longer in service.
00:11:54.540 I did get to speak to my daughter for about a moment, about a minute.
00:11:58.520 Why are you calling now? Why didn't you call 31 days ago?
00:12:01.940 I've been looking for her and have gone through other resources to try to find her, which is stupid.
00:12:09.480 Casey has just told a 911 dispatcher that she spoke to Kaylee that day.
00:12:14.840 By then, Kaylee has been gone for a month, as Casey confessed to her brother Lee.
00:12:21.960 Casey gives the dispatcher the name of the woman she says has her daughter, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, Zanny.
00:12:30.540 This is her nanny, she says, for about a year and a half, almost two years.
00:12:35.820 Then Casey sees the deputies arriving.
00:12:38.800 The dispatcher tells her to stay on the line, but Casey hangs up.
00:12:43.280 Detective Yuri Mellick gets the case.
00:12:46.700 In the early hours of July 16th, he sits down with Casey and records her statement.
00:12:52.940 She gives him an address for the nanny.
00:12:55.580 Sawgrass Apartments on South Conway Road, Unit 210, second floor.
00:13:01.020 First building on the right, just past the speed bump.
00:13:04.340 She gives him the names of the nanny's two roommates and the friend who introduced them.
00:13:09.960 Detective Melech asks Casey if everything she has just told him is true.
00:13:15.080 Casey responds, that's the truth.
00:13:17.720 It's the story I'm going to stick with.
00:13:20.100 Yes.
00:13:21.760 A little after 5.30 a.m., Casey takes Melech to Sawgrass Apartments and points out Unit 210.
00:13:29.440 Later that day, after he drops Casey at her parents' home on Hope Spring Drive,
00:13:34.500 Melech goes back and speaks with the apartment manager.
00:13:38.080 Unit 210, she tells him, has been vacant for 142 days.
00:13:44.580 Casey has also told Detective Malik she works at Universal Studios and that Zani worked there too.
00:13:51.040 So after checking Sawgrass, Malik heads to Universal and sits down with the head of security.
00:13:57.800 They start running the names Casey has given him through the system.
00:14:01.120 No Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez.
00:14:03.020 The supervisor Casey named also does not work there, nor does the co-worker.
00:14:09.600 The phone extension she gave Melec does not exist.
00:14:13.560 Casey herself has not worked at Universal in more than two years.
00:14:17.640 She was fired in April 2006 after she stopped showing up.
00:14:22.640 Melec calls Casey and asks her to come in with her employee ID.
00:14:27.720 Casey says she cannot find it, so two detectives are sent to drive her to Universal Studios.
00:14:34.640 Casey is still insisting she works there.
00:14:38.180 At the employee gate, the guard finds no record of her or her supervisor in the system.
00:14:44.580 Casey insists there is a mistake.
00:14:47.380 The security manager lets her through.
00:14:49.980 She leads the detectives into the office complex as if she knows exactly where she is going,
00:14:55.840 left at the first building, down the road, across a parking lot, and into another building.
00:15:01.260 She is walking with purpose.
00:15:03.640 Melech decides to let her keep going.
00:15:07.000 About halfway down a hallway, Casey stops.
00:15:11.140 She puts her hands in her back pockets and turns around.
00:15:15.820 Okay, she says.
00:15:17.420 I don't work here.
00:15:20.420 Detectives take Casey into a conference room inside Universal Studios
00:15:24.760 and keep talking. By now they clearly know two things. Casey does not work here and the apartment
00:15:31.900 where she says Zanny, the person she claims has her daughter, lives, has been empty for months.
00:15:39.960 Despite those lies, Casey still contends she's being at least somewhat truthful.
00:15:46.240 I know and you know that everything you've told me is a lie, correct?
00:15:50.440 Not everything that I told you.
00:15:52.240 Okay. Pretty much everything that you've told me, including where Kaylee is right now.
00:15:56.660 That, I still, I don't know where she is.
00:15:58.820 Sure you do.
00:16:00.300 Sergeant John Allen is with Detective Melech.
00:16:03.760 He tries another approach.
00:16:05.460 He talks to Casey about parents who make terrible mistakes
00:16:09.560 and lie because they are afraid to tell the truth.
00:16:13.000 The conversation shifts to Casey's mother, Cindy.
00:16:16.940 I saw my mom's reaction right off the bat,
00:16:19.700 and it would have been this name from the get-go.
00:16:22.640 So wait a minute.
00:16:23.260 So you're more afraid of your mom's reaction
00:16:26.100 than you are if you ever see your daughter again.
00:16:28.220 You know, I'm absolutely petrified.
00:16:30.640 Absolutely petrified.
00:16:31.960 I know my mom will never forgive me.
00:16:34.060 I'm never going to forgive myself
00:16:35.380 because there's that chance that I might not see Kaylee again
00:16:38.600 and I don't want to think about that.
00:16:41.760 Detectives tell her, quote,
00:16:43.440 we're arresting you unless you come clean
00:16:46.000 and tell us the truth.
00:16:47.240 We're arresting you now.
00:16:50.000 Casey insists she is being truthful.
00:16:53.140 At 4.33 that afternoon, Casey Anthony is arrested for child neglect,
00:16:58.180 for making false statements to officials, and for obstructing an investigation.
00:17:03.780 Six days later, a judge sets her bond at $500,000 on the neglect count alone.
00:17:11.200 At this point, little Kaylee Anthony has been missing for 32 days.
00:17:16.200 It is four years earlier, spring of 2004.
00:17:22.860 Casey is just days from high school graduation.
00:17:26.200 At least, that's what her family believes.
00:17:29.320 Then a counselor calls the house and asks George and Cindy to come for a meeting.
00:17:34.580 Casey does not have the required credits to walk on graduation day.
00:17:39.580 The Anthony's demand to see Casey's school records,
00:17:41.960 but the school officials refuse, saying Casey is now 18 years old and that their hands are tied.
00:17:49.900 Casey says she had taken an online computer class and claims the school never gave her the credit.
00:17:56.380 Her family goes to the graduation anyway.
00:17:59.820 They sit there knowing Casey's name will not be called.
00:18:04.380 Afterward, Casey's grandmother, Shirley Placay, asks her where her cap and gown are.
00:18:10.460 Casey starts to cry and repeats the same story about her being about a half-credit shy.
00:18:17.220 Her parents tell everyone the school made a mistake and still throw a graduation party.
00:18:23.200 Cindy tells her parents not to tell her brothers.
00:18:27.100 They don't.
00:18:28.460 Cindy's brothers, Casey's uncles, don't learn that Casey never graduated until four years later
00:18:33.920 when police come and ask them about it.
00:18:36.500 In the spring of 2005, Casey stops by Gentiva Health, where her mother Cindy has worked as a nurse since 2001.
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00:20:09.700 Her mother's co-worker, Charles Crittenden, is working the front desk.
00:20:14.180 Usually when Casey pops into the office, she stops to chat with Charles.
00:20:19.100 This time, she does not.
00:20:21.240 To Charles, she looks pregnant.
00:20:24.940 Charles tells a co-worker what he had seen,
00:20:27.540 who then heads into the back to get a look at Casey and thinks the same thing.
00:20:32.440 Cindy appears clueless, even as all the signs are there.
00:20:36.740 Casey had dated a guy named Jesse Grund for about six weeks at the start of that year.
00:20:41.780 His father, a minister, looks at Casey once and tells his son she's pregnant.
00:20:48.600 Jesse says Casey had female problems that caused her stomach to distend.
00:20:53.960 He insists that he had asked Casey about it and that she told her whole family that same story.
00:21:00.660 Reverend Grunn doubles down, saying he knows when a woman is pregnant and that Casey is expecting.
00:21:07.240 Jesse ignores his father's observation, but will soon come to regret that.
00:21:12.640 Nearly a month later, Jesse receives a call from Casey, during which she says,
00:21:18.160 I need to talk to you.
00:21:19.940 I can't talk right now, Jesse says. Send me a text message.
00:21:23.720 The text comes moments later.
00:21:26.420 It reads, quote,
00:21:27.840 I'm pregnant and you're the father.
00:21:30.220 That's it.
00:21:31.420 End quote.
00:21:32.980 On June 4th, 2005, Casey's uncle Rick gets married in Ohio
00:21:38.380 and Casey flies out for the wedding.
00:21:41.200 Her brother Lee drops her off at the airport
00:21:42.920 and asks her before she leaves straight up.
00:21:46.560 Listen, if you are pregnant or something's going on,
00:21:50.180 tell me, be honest with me.
00:21:51.900 No, Lee, she says. I'm just bloated. Later, when Lee learns the truth, he feels betrayed by his
00:21:59.900 sister. When Casey gets to the hotel in Ohio, Uncle Rick answers the door. She is wearing a
00:22:07.700 powder blue top and her belly button is pushing out about half an inch. As soon as he can, Rick
00:22:14.860 asks his sister and brother-in-law about Casey. Cindy, George, what's up with Casey?
00:22:21.900 You got something to tell me? What's going on here?
00:22:25.140 The couple look at him with puzzled expressions.
00:22:28.040 What? They both ask.
00:22:29.980 She's expecting? They look at him like he's crazy.
00:22:33.860 Cindy shrugs off Rick's questions, insisting she's just putting on weight.
00:22:38.600 But Rick keeps pushing.
00:22:40.620 Cindy, I've seen a lot of pregnant girls.
00:22:43.160 I'm not an expert, but man, she looks pregnant, he says.
00:22:47.100 Rick, my daughter has female problems.
00:22:49.640 she has a tumor on her ovaries. Rick responds, that tumor is as big as a baby. You'd better
00:22:56.600 get her to a doctor right now because she's going to die. And then he walks away. All day,
00:23:03.040 wedding guests keep asking, who's the pregnant girl? Casey Anthony is 19 years old and two months
00:23:10.520 from her due date. Her relatives would not say so out loud. Once back home, Cindy confronts her
00:23:18.060 daughter, and Casey finally admits she's about to have a baby. The two of them go to tell George.
00:23:24.500 Cindy makes him sit down on the sofa before saying, George, you're going to be a grandfather.
00:23:30.580 George cries. He asks how far along she is and who the father is. Casey says she thinks it's
00:23:37.220 Jessie. She does not give a last name. Her parents go with her to every doctor's appointment,
00:23:43.100 and Cindy tells her about her own pregnancy.
00:23:47.200 Every day, Carrie and Casey, she played classical music to her belly.
00:23:51.580 Casey wants to do the same thing.
00:23:53.840 Cindy goes and finds the same recordings.
00:23:57.680 Kaylee Anthony is born on a Tuesday, August 9, 2005.
00:24:03.320 Her family gives her the middle name Marie, like Casey and Cindy before her.
00:24:09.480 Casey has a hard birth.
00:24:10.960 The doctor is still working on her when Kaylee comes, so the nurse hands the baby to her grandmother.
00:24:18.020 Cindy Anthony is the first family member ever to hold baby Kaylee, and Casey notices right away.
00:24:25.840 Oh my gosh, she says, you get a chance to hold her before I do.
00:24:30.480 From that day, Grandma Cindy calls Kaylee her daughter, her little girl.
00:24:36.480 Cindy later describes the dynamic to CBS in 2009.
00:24:41.440 It wasn't Casey's child. It was our child. She belonged to all of us.
00:24:46.940 One man who believes he is the father is there, Jesse Grund. He holds Kaylee the day she is born.
00:24:53.820 It is the first time her parents have met him. He tells them that he's the father and promises to
00:25:00.080 take care of the baby. He doesn't put his name on the birth certificate at the hospital. He wants
00:25:05.760 a paternity test first. Casey refuses. Jesse petitions the court himself, pays $550, and
00:25:14.060 waits eight weeks to know for sure whether he is Kaylee's father. He spends as much of
00:25:19.200 that time as possible with Casey and Kaylee in case the test comes back positive. As Jesse
00:25:25.320 tells CBS, it does not.
00:25:28.900 That's a zero percent probability that I was the biological father. It was relieving
00:25:35.740 and heartbreaking at the same time i didn't want anybody else to be that little girl's father except
00:25:39.500 for me jesse grund asks casey to marry him she says yes jesse's not the only man casey will name
00:25:48.300 as kaylee's father another is a young man named eric who will die in a car accident in 2007.
00:25:56.780 casey had clipped his obituary out of the newspaper kept it in her bedroom and told her parents it was
00:26:03.180 him. Casey gives different names to different people who ask about Kaylee's dad, Jesse, Eric,
00:26:11.140 Josh, Jesus. Kaylee's real biological father is never confirmed. In November of 2005,
00:26:20.600 Cindy Anthony throws her husband out of the house. George had lost about $30,000 online.
00:26:27.640 He tells his wife it was online gambling. Years later, he would tell the FBI it was an
00:26:32.980 email scam and that he had lied to Cindy about it. At trial, he will say both are true.
00:26:41.020 Cindy takes out a loan against the house and drains her 401k to cover bills she thought
00:26:46.940 George had been paying. A divorce lawyer tells her if they separate, George would still get
00:26:52.400 half the house and she would likely owe him alimony. Cindy tells her mother that she,
00:26:57.980 a full-time nurse simply cannot afford a divorce quote between George and Casey I'm living paycheck
00:27:04.120 to paycheck George moves in with his parents in Fort Myers about 150 miles southwest of his wife
00:27:12.000 daughter and granddaughter years later they describe the effect of this separation to Dr.
00:27:17.940 Phil everybody felt let down by their dad and kind of betrayed and the thing that hurt Casey
00:27:24.020 the most was that he wanted us to sell the house and split it up, that Casey felt like he was
00:27:30.960 kicking her and Kaylee out. And I know she didn't want him to come home. Did you know that she
00:27:35.940 didn't want you to come back? Yes, she told me. For years, Casey has been recruiting friends and
00:27:42.580 family, including Jesse and the Gruns, into watching Kaylee while she's at work. In the spring
00:27:49.120 of 2006, she starts telling them she has found a proper babysitter. That summer in 2006, Jesse's
00:27:56.840 father, Richard Grund, asks Casey whether she has found someone to watch Kaylee. She responds with
00:28:02.700 not only a yes, but a monologue. Here's how he remembers it. Quote, yeah, I got that worked out.
00:28:10.220 Oh yeah, I found Zenaida Gonzalez. And she watches my friend Jeffrey Hopkins' son, Zachary.
00:28:15.500 And Zachary and Kaylee play together. They love to be together. So this will work out great.
00:28:21.440 Richard remembers thinking, wow, that's a lot more information than I really needed.
00:28:26.340 It would also prove to be entirely untrue.
00:28:30.440 From 2006 onward, Casey continues leaving the house for work every day.
00:28:37.240 She wears an old Universal Studios badge and tells people she is working for Kodak,
00:28:41.920 taking photographs of riders on the attractions at the park.
00:28:46.120 But Casey is not actually going to work.
00:28:48.920 Universal fired her in April 2006.
00:28:52.820 As with the matter of Kaylee's father, Casey tells different people different things.
00:28:58.140 She says she has to go plan an event for Universal or work a warehouse shift at Sports Authority,
00:29:03.680 and she asks for help to watch Kaylee while she does it.
00:29:08.100 Cindy Anthony says yes the most.
00:29:10.840 Casey's high school friend Lauren Gibbs is another regular resource.
00:29:14.440 She's been watching Kaylee for free out of compassion for her friend.
00:29:18.240 She calls Sports Authority in April of 2006.
00:29:22.420 The employee who picks up has never heard of Casey Anthony.
00:29:27.760 When Lauren confronts Casey, Casey dodges the question.
00:29:31.760 I have an ID tag, she says.
00:29:34.260 She tries to explain it away as miscommunication.
00:29:37.740 Lauren does not believe her.
00:29:40.460 Casey's father, George, makes the same discovery.
00:29:43.640 He goes to the store in person and speaks to the manager.
00:29:46.900 There is no Casey Anthony here.
00:29:50.140 Separately, Jesse's father, Richard, also visits the store to ask.
00:29:54.340 He has no idea George had the same idea, but he receives the same answer.
00:29:59.640 According to Richard, Casey uses a bad check to pay back an old debt to Jesse.
00:30:05.780 $250. It bounces.
00:30:08.640 He later tells Cindy, who responds, well, she only did it once.
00:30:13.800 Casey tells her dad she feels Jesse Grund is trying to control her.
00:30:18.140 On his advice, she breaks off the engagement.
00:30:21.700 George moves back home in June 2006.
00:30:25.540 He has missed seven months of his granddaughter's life.
00:30:28.900 Around this time, Casey's parents start to notice money disappearing from their home.
00:30:34.740 George describes the pattern to Dr. Phil in 2011.
00:30:38.320 Sometimes Cindy would even ask me, she says,
00:30:39.960 George, I'm missing $20 from my wallet or something.
00:30:42.140 And I would say, I didn't take any money from your wallet.
00:30:44.320 When I had $20 or $30 of mine, I'd go and look in mine, and mine would be gone.
00:30:48.640 She was stealing gas from our gas can outside in my shed to keep her car going.
00:30:54.100 Cindy's mother, Shirley, would later estimate that Casey stole as much as $45,000 from her parents.
00:31:00.820 But Casey does not only steal from her parents.
00:31:03.700 In August 2007, Kaylee turns two, and Cindy's mother Shirley comes to stay with them and attends the little girl's birthday party.
00:31:13.860 Casey sneaks into the guest bedroom, reaches into her grandmother's purse, and carefully peels a check out of the book, from the back, so she wouldn't notice for a while.
00:31:25.920 Casey buys her daughter's birthday cake from Publix with that check.
00:31:30.680 $54 for a cake and decorations.
00:31:33.920 She writes her own driver's license number on the back.
00:31:37.340 Days later, Shirley notices the missing check.
00:31:40.480 First, she tries the utility company.
00:31:42.960 When they don't have it, she goes to the police.
00:31:46.120 An officer finds the check and the driver's license number.
00:31:50.160 Do you know a Casey Anthony, he asks.
00:31:53.220 Shirley gasps.
00:31:55.100 She would have given Casey the money if she had asked.
00:31:57.980 She confronts Casey and Cindy together.
00:32:01.080 Casey apologizes.
00:32:02.920 Shirley accepts it and says, don't let it happen again.
00:32:06.580 Shirley does not press charges.
00:32:09.140 Casey takes another $354,
00:32:12.280 this time out of the account that funds care for her grandfather.
00:32:16.640 Shirley's husband, Alex Plesset, had suffered a stroke that January
00:32:20.820 and now lives in a nursing home.
00:32:23.480 Shirley is aghast and leaves it to the bank
00:32:26.360 to decide whether to press charges against Casey.
00:32:29.720 The bank does not.
00:32:31.940 Cindy Anthony tells Dr. Phil
00:32:33.760 this sparked a change in her own behavior toward Casey.
00:32:37.660 The straw that broke the camel's back
00:32:39.580 was when I found out that she had taken money from my mom.
00:32:43.380 I started coming down so hard on her
00:32:46.120 in those few months before all this happened.
00:32:48.840 She was not used to that.
00:32:50.300 I said, I'm not taking your daughter away from you.
00:32:53.240 I said, I could, but I'm not going to do that.
00:32:56.220 Cindy does not act on the threat, which included throwing Casey out of the house.
00:33:01.020 A counselor has recommended Cindy try to get custody of little Kaylee,
00:33:06.140 and Cindy tells her mom she's going to do it.
00:33:09.560 She does not.
00:33:11.360 Sunday, June 15, 2008, Father's Day.
00:33:15.780 The last day anyone other than the family remembers seeing Kaylee Anthony.
00:33:22.140 Cindy brings Kaylee to visit Kaylee's great-grandfather in the nursing home up the street.
00:33:27.600 There, an employee named Karen Angel asks Kaylee her name and is rewarded with a hug.
00:33:34.200 Kaylee even rests her head on the woman's shoulder.
00:33:37.360 Karen remembers her as a very happy little girl.
00:33:41.180 Cindy and Kaylee take photos with great-grandpa Alex before leaving.
00:33:45.840 These are the last known pictures of Kaylee alive.
00:33:49.420 They head to Shirley's house next for chili and cornbread.
00:33:53.540 Shirley has made a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for Kaylee,
00:33:56.700 just in case she does not like the chili.
00:33:59.380 Kaylee does.
00:34:00.700 She plays with Shirley's cat for most of the visit.
00:34:04.360 Cindy takes Kaylee home, and they swim in the backyard, above-ground pool.
00:34:08.720 When they get out, Cindy takes the ladder away from the side and locks the gate behind her.
00:34:15.200 Casey comes home later that evening.
00:34:17.940 What happens next depends on who you ask and when.
00:34:22.780 Writer Diane Fanning gives one account.
00:34:25.940 Years after the incident, she will work from the police file to reconstruct the night.
00:34:30.600 Here's how she describes it in her book, Mommy's Little Girl.
00:34:34.140 Cindy is catching on to one of her daughter's lies and confronts her.
00:34:40.000 She slams photos down on the table, one at a time, of Casey at a no-clothes party.
00:34:46.140 Fanning quotes Cindy as saying,
00:34:48.200 You're at work, huh? I watched Kaylee that night so that you could go to work.
00:34:53.940 Cindy says Casey is an unfit mother and that she's going to get custody of Kaylee herself.
00:34:59.400 Cindy later denies ever making that accusation to CBS.
00:35:04.140 Casey's ex-fiancee, Jesse Grund, adds a detail to this fight.
00:35:14.040 He says that about a month later in July, Casey's brother Lee tells him that this argument did happen
00:35:21.460 and that it escalated beyond words.
00:35:25.040 According to Jesse, Lee claims that Cindy put her hands around Casey's throat and squeezed.
00:35:31.700 Lee will later deny this.
00:35:34.140 so will Cindy. Here she is in 2009 to CBS. It's not true. Mr. Grant has come up with a lot of
00:35:42.240 statements that are not true. Cindy Anthony told Dr. Phil about her appeal to Casey over those
00:35:48.540 last months in 2011. I need you to straighten yourself up. And I pretty much told her she had
00:35:54.840 several months to do it. Did you push her too hard? I may have. I may have. The next day is
00:36:01.860 Monday, June 16, 2008. It's 10 minutes to one in the afternoon. Casey sits on the recliner next
00:36:10.120 to her father and says she'll be working late. Kaylee will stay with the nanny overnight. George
00:36:16.620 tells her to be careful. Casey says she'll see him tomorrow. Kaylee, dressed in a blue jean skirt
00:36:23.640 and a pink top, walks out to the car with her mom. She carries a little white backpack with
00:36:29.300 monkeys on it. No one in this home will ever see Kaylee Anthony again. I'm Megan Kelly.
00:36:38.380 Next time on MK Confidential, Casey Anthony invented a nanny named Zanny. When police go
00:36:45.940 looking for her, they find a real Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez who has never met Casey
00:36:51.580 or Kaylee. Her life is about to radically change anyway.
00:36:59.300 Ford has been lucky enough to spend more than a century with you.
00:37:11.220 And if there's one thing we've witnessed, it's this.
00:37:15.340 There's no can't in Canada.
00:37:18.360 Ready, set, Ford.