The Megyn Kelly Show - DC Grand Juries Go Political Against Trump, MAGA and AOC Unite, New Space Race Begins： AM Update 9⧸5

00:00:00.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Friday, September 5th, 2025, and this is your

00:00:08.300 AM update. If you trespass into the Capitol, you go to prisons. But if you assault a federal

00:00:13.680 law enforcement officer, you don't even get charged. A possible resistance effort exposed

00:00:18.680 by a streak of rejected indictments by D.C. grand juries. Attorney Mike Davis breaks it down.

00:00:25.560 If Cortez told me the sun was coming up tomorrow, I'd probably, I'd go out and, I'd go out and check

00:00:30.100 it out. Cortez, as in Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, teaming up with MAGA? We'll tell you what they're

00:00:38.260 working on. And the second race to the moon is on, as one former NASA official sounds a warning.

00:00:45.420 All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM update.

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00:01:52.900 A grand jury will indict even a ham sandwich. So said New York State's famous chief judge Saul

00:01:59.820 Walkler years ago, but not if it's Trump's DOJ after the ham. Over the last week, a series of giddy

00:02:07.080 headlines celebrating federal prosecutors' failures to secure grand jury indictments in Washington,

00:02:12.680 D.C. as the Trump administration takes control of local policing. The Atlantic, quote,

00:02:18.540 Trump's crime crackdown isn't holding up in court. Reuters, quote, U.S. prosecutors fail three times

00:02:25.040 to secure indictment in FBI assault case. CBS, quote, D.C. grand jurors reject latest wave of Justice

00:02:32.980 Department indictment requests. In recent weeks, prosecutors have failed to get indictments at least

00:02:38.320 seven times across five cases. A grand jury even declining to indict the now-fired DOJ employee

00:02:45.560 who threw a submarine sandwich at a CBP officer, which we all saw happen on video. Such failures

00:02:53.340 exceedingly rare. Federal grand juries almost always hand prosecutors the indictments they seek.

00:02:58.540 We spoke to attorney and founder of the Article 3 project, Mike Davis, about what's going on with

00:03:04.880 the D.C. grand jury pool. I mean, it's extremely rare for grand jury proceedings to fail in normal

00:03:11.480 jurisdictions, but we're dealing with the District of Columbia that voted 95 percent against President

00:03:18.100 Trump. The District of Columbia that's full of criminals and bureaucrats and people who hate Trump. 0.93

00:03:25.700 They have Trump derangement syndrome. And so they would rather let their city go to hell, 0.99

00:03:32.100 our nation's capital go to hell, than be seen as supporting President Trump's law enforcement

00:03:37.480 crackdown that's making D.C. safe for all Americans, particularly for black D.C. residents in southeast 0.64

00:03:47.520 and northeast, for examples, who are the victims of this crime.

00:03:51.460 U.S. District Attorney for D.C. Janine Pirro instructing prosecutors to seek the maximum

00:03:56.440 penalties where allowed to clean up the streets and to deter future criminals. Critics calling

00:04:02.180 these failed indictments the result of the justice system going too far, a silent protest by D.C.

00:04:08.040 residents opposed to what some see as federal overreach. Davis noting the D.C. jury pool had

00:04:14.100 no problem indicting more than 1,500 people in connection to January 6th. Even those who simply

00:04:21.480 walked into the Capitol, took a look around, and then peacefully left were slapped with felony charges

00:04:27.340 so overreaching the U.S. Supreme Court eventually intervened to rein them in.

00:04:32.440 The Biden Justice Department politicized, contorted a post-Enron obstruction of justice statute dealing

00:04:41.320 with corporate fraud to go after their political enemies after January 6th. They persecuted Trump

00:04:47.620 supporters. They threw them in jail with pretrial detention before their trials. They threw the book

00:04:54.240 at these people. They ruined people's lives. They bankrupted them. People lost their families. They lost

00:05:00.880 their freedom. They lost their jobs. They lost everything after January 6th. Well, how the Biden

00:05:05.600 Justice Department and these D.C. judges persecuted these people is unacceptable. And they gave amnesty

00:05:12.340 to the much more deadly and destructive BLM and Antifa writers, right? So it's very clear that our

00:05:19.320 system in D.C. is so politicized. If you trespass into the Capitol and take selfies, you go to prison for

00:05:26.460 a long time after January 6th. But if you assault a federal law enforcement officer, you don't even

00:05:31.220 get charged. In order for the feds to bring criminal charges, a grand jury must agree there is enough

00:05:36.580 evidence to move forward. If prosecutors cannot secure an indictment, options are limited, though forcing

00:05:42.960 a defendant to navigate the legal system can be some form of punishment, Davis says. You have to indict

00:05:50.140 criminals in the district where the crime occurred unless the defendant waives that. That's part of

00:05:56.280 our Constitution. And so it makes it very difficult when the grand jury is not indicting criminals. You

00:06:02.440 can still bring misdemeanors against these people who are attacking officers. If the grand jury doesn't

00:06:08.140 want to return felony indictments, then charge these criminals with misdemeanors and make them go

00:06:13.400 through the process. And I would say that even if at the end of the day, these deranged juries are

00:06:19.880 going to find these criminals guilty, make these criminals still go through the process, make the

00:06:25.320 process the punishment. Team Trump is trying to make the nation's Capitol safe and secure. The D.C.

00:06:31.980 mayor, wary of looking soft on crime, just issued an executive order that will pave the way for federal

00:06:37.620 troops to remain there through at least December, leading to praise from the White House and to critics

00:06:43.360 calling her misguided. On Tuesday, D.C.'s Attorney General Brian Schwab breaking with the mayor,

00:06:50.240 suing the Trump administration in federal court, challenging the deployment of National Guard

00:06:54.600 troops. Schwab releasing a statement, quote, no American city should have the U.S. military,

00:06:59.880 particularly out-of-state military, who are not accountable to the residents and untrained in local

00:07:05.340 law enforcement, policing its streets. We filed this action to put an end to this illegal federal

00:07:11.140 overreach. Of course, the D.C. police union has already said they welcome the National Guard and

00:07:16.680 their help. According to Davis, the D.C. Attorney General is unlikely to succeed.

00:07:21.380 The D.C. Attorney General is suing President Trump because President Trump is deploying the National

00:07:27.520 Guard to help assist with crime in D.C. That is the president's absolute statutory and constitutional

00:07:35.120 power and duty to protect our nation's capital. When the corrupt local Democrat politicians refuse to do

00:07:42.720 their job and they allow crime to overtake our nation's capital, of course, the president,

00:07:48.860 who is the head of the D.C. National Guard, can use the National Guard to assist law enforcement in

00:07:54.560 putting down crime. I imagine that some local Democrat activist judge on the D.C. bench will rule

00:08:00.640 against Trump and it will have to get appealed maybe all the way up to the Supreme Court of the United

00:08:06.500 States. And the Supreme Court is going to side with President Trump on the use of the National Guard

00:08:11.600 in D.C. I have no doubt about that. Mr. Trump posted on Truth Social this week that carjacking in D.C.

00:08:18.640 is down 87 percent and that all other categories of crime are down, quote, massively. A poll from late

00:08:25.080 August, two weeks ago, shows just 20 percent of D.C. residents favored the National Guard troops in D.C.

00:08:31.840 One released yesterday, a national poll from The Economist slash YouGov, showed nationwide it's a

00:08:38.400 closer call. Forty nine percent of Americans oppose the troops in D.C. Forty two percent support the

00:08:44.220 effort. Coming up, strange bedfellows on Capitol Hill, AOC teaming up with some of the most MAGA

00:08:51.940 friendly Republicans on an issue we can all get behind. And the second space race is officially

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00:10:19.140 A rare crossover event on Capitol Hill. Fiscal hawks and MAGA stalwarts joining forces with

00:10:25.560 socialist Democrats and progressive liberals to push a congressional stock trading ban.

00:10:31.220 Among the bipartisan bunch, from the GOP, Chip Roy of Texas, Anna Paulina Luna of Florida,

00:10:37.860 and Tim Burchett of Tennessee. Democrats include AOC and Pramila Jayapal, among others on Wednesday

00:10:44.320 introducing the Restore Trust in Congress Act. Congressman Burchett, often a fierce critic of

00:10:50.320 his socialist counterparts, on the unlikely alliance. And I'm proud of all these people up here. I don't

00:10:56.420 agree with them. Some of these people on anything. If they told me, if Cortez told me the sun was coming

00:11:00.800 up tomorrow, I'd probably, I'd go out and, I'd go out and check it out. The legislation seeks to ban

00:11:05.800 members of Congress, their spouses, and dependent children from owning, buying, or trading individual

00:11:11.720 stocks and other assets while in office. Lawmakers would be required to sell stocks, options, futures,

00:11:18.260 and commodities shortly after being sworn in. Uh-oh. What will newly investment-rich Ilhan Omar and her 1.00

00:11:25.780 recently-a-millionaire investor husband do? And what about Nancy Pelosi, who raked in between $7.8 and 1.00

00:11:32.980 $42.5 million in 2024 alone, meaning her net worth with venture capitalist husband Paul could top $413

00:11:42.940 million this year, a $43 million jump from the year before, per the Boston Herald, thanks to very

00:11:51.040 timely trades done in Paul Pelosi's name. For example, the Pelosi's dumped 5,000 shares of

00:11:57.980 Microsoft, worth over $2 million last July, just months before the government announced an antitrust

00:12:05.720 investigation against Microsoft. Gee, what a call. Pelosi denies any wrongdoing. According to CNBC,

00:12:13.800 the penalty for violating the proposed ban would be a 10 percent fee equal to the value of the

00:12:19.500 investment and forfeiture of the profits. Lawmakers have been working for months to combine various

00:12:25.100 proposals into one piece of legislation, aiming to pressure leadership to advance the bill to a vote.

00:12:31.100 Democratic Congresswoman Jayapal on the strategy.

00:12:33.960 We know that sometimes what happens in this place is if there are multiple bills on a subject,

00:12:38.900 leadership that may not want us to move forward says, we've got too many bills,

00:12:42.800 we can't decide. So we did the work of negotiating with each other. We brought in experts to make

00:12:48.980 sure, including experts that manage money and know what the loopholes are that we needed to make sure

00:12:55.540 we're fixed. And I think we are doing the simplest thing that we can do in many ways. It is the simplest

00:13:02.740 thing that the American people want, which is to know that their member of Congress represents them

00:13:09.920 and not their own pocketbooks. Under the current law passed in 2012, lawmakers are prohibited from

00:13:16.820 using private information learned in their official capacity for personal benefit in the stock market.

00:13:23.160 Members of Congress must also regularly submit financial disclosure forms. Despite this,

00:13:28.360 many members of Congress across the political spectrum have magically seen their net worths skyrocket

00:13:34.600 after arriving in Washington. It doesn't seem like the system is working so well. The issue enjoys broad

00:13:41.980 public support. A 2023 poll from the University of Maryland finding 88% of Dems, 87% of Republicans and 81% of

00:13:50.380 independents in favor of a ban. Both President Trump and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries have previously

00:13:57.160 expressed support for a stock trading ban. House Speaker Mike Johnson with a more reserved reaction.

00:14:03.160 See, there's a couple of different ideas on the table and we have to build consensus on that because

00:14:08.320 you've got to do it responsibly. So some of the ideas that have been put forward, I'm not in love

00:14:12.660 with the details of, but I mean, it's generally a policy of always favor, but we have lots of

00:14:17.440 different opinions on that in the conference and in Congress. So we've got to work through it. So

00:14:21.540 that's the intention. Congresswoman Luna telling reporters she is prepared to circumvent 0.97

00:14:26.340 congressional leadership if necessary to bring the bill to a vote. I sometimes feel like an

00:14:31.540 adjudicator in this job. So I guess I'll be the one to say that we've asked nicely for leadership

00:14:36.220 to put this on the floor. If they don't, I'm saying timeline is end a month. There's a discharge

00:14:42.240 petition prepared and ready to go. I think it's very clear where the White House stands on this. I

00:14:47.100 don't speak for the White House, but the president has stated that he supports banning this because

00:14:50.940 it is corrupt. Frankly, the fact that members are getting what plus 600% returns on their investments

00:14:55.860 is wrong. But more importantly, how could you ever be expected to represent your constituents when

00:15:01.100 you're clearly worried about your pocketbook? And so that's why we're here today. If the House

00:15:05.060 measure advances, it would still need 60 votes in the Senate, meaning bipartisan support is essential.

00:15:11.320 Let's see how they vote on this one.

00:15:15.080 The second space race is officially underway, this time against China, to see who will reach the moon 0.93

00:15:21.140 for the first time since the 1970s, with far more at stake than bragging rights. Transportation Secretary

00:15:27.720 Sean Duffy saying Tuesday on Fox News that the administration's goal is to put astronauts back on

00:15:33.920 the moon in 2027, following a mission in April 2026 that will send a crew to at least orbit the lunar orb.

00:15:42.740 That is going to be a mission, a four-man crew that's going to go out and around the moon.

00:15:46.560 Artemis 3 is going to be when we land back on the moon. We're going to stay for a longer period of time.

00:15:51.680 Anywhere from 8 to 12 days on the moon. The longest time in the past was three days. And again,

00:15:57.400 we're going to start sending payloads to the moon to start building our base camp. And then from there,

00:16:02.040 again, we want to get in the early 30s to Mars. And this is critical. What we learn on the space

00:16:07.960 station, what we learn on the mission to the moon is going to be critical to make sure we can sustain

00:16:12.740 life. It's an eight-plus-month mission to Mars. And then you've got to stay there, and then you've got to

00:16:19.320 come back. However, China has a head start. In the last five years, the Chinese making great

00:16:25.100 strides in space, becoming the first country to land a rover on the far side of the moon

00:16:29.680 and return samples. On Wednesday, the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee,

00:16:34.500 chaired by Senator Ted Cruz, holding a hearing on how America can win the race back to the moon.

00:16:39.560 The panel of expert witnesses warning China could seize the lead. Former NASA head under Trump 1.0,

00:16:46.760 Jim Bridenstine, putting it bluntly. It is highly unlikely that we will land on the moon before

00:16:52.960 China. The message was clear. If the U.S. is serious about beating China, I mean, we already beat 0.94

00:16:59.720 China, but I guess we're now racing for who can do it in the modern era? Anyway, it's going to require 1.00

00:17:06.500 more than lofty goals. Here's more from Bridenstine, retired Space Force officer John Shaw and CEO of

00:17:13.800 the Coalition for Deep Space Exploration, Alan Cutler. Here's what we don't have today. We don't

00:17:19.040 have a landing system for the moon. Such a grand strategy, which would unify and synergize our

00:17:23.940 national efforts, does not currently exist. The United States appears to trail China for the critical

00:17:29.060 final leg in space to the moon's surface, the development of a lander. We are significantly

00:17:33.740 smaller as a percentage of the federal government than we were back in the Apollo era. Both sides 0.90

00:17:39.700 of the congressional aisle pushing the White House to maintain NASA's budget, even as the

00:17:43.920 administration looks to cut spending across nearly every corner of government. Senator Cruz successfully

00:17:49.220 lobbying for 10 billion in additional funding for what they're calling the Artemis moon mission in the

00:17:55.260 one big, beautiful bill. Former associate NASA administrator Michael Gold says whoever gets there

00:18:00.900 first will have all of the momentum and the international support. We've had tremendous

00:18:06.260 success with the Artemis Accords. 56 countries have signed. The Chinese only have 13 for their 0.99

00:18:12.140 International Lunar Space Research Station program. But if we're not first, trust me, those numbers

00:18:18.860 will change. And the fear China will eventually outspend us in space. It's inevitable. We must out 0.99

00:18:25.980 entrepreneur them. The race is on. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megan Kelly. Join me back

00:18:34.580 here for The Megan Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash

00:18:40.240 Megan Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.

The Megyn Kelly Show - September 05, 2025

DC Grand Juries Go Political Against Trump, MAGA and AOC Unite, New Space Race Begins： AM Update 9⧸5

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