The Megyn Kelly Show - August 20, 2024


Dems Disrespect Biden as They Kick Him Out, and Fake Speeches and Lies at the DNC, with the Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 865


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 39 minutes

Words per Minute

173.43938

Word Count

17,337

Sentence Count

1,519

Misogynist Sentences

74

Hate Speech Sentences

27


Summary

Joe Biden's final night at the Democratic National Convention was a doozy. He was booed, heckled, jeered, and jeered at. But it was all for a good reason. It was Joe Biden's swan song moment.


Transcript

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00:00:30.740 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
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00:00:42.060 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.
00:00:43.700 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
00:00:45.140 Oh, we have so much to go over.
00:00:47.220 An unbelievable day one at the Democratic National Convention.
00:00:50.620 And by unbelievable, I mean we got to watch a final knife in the back
00:00:54.020 to the man who we are told is still the leader of the free world
00:00:57.720 and according to the Democrats, who save democracy.
00:01:00.400 And this is their thanks.
00:01:03.180 Last month, the Democrats pushed Joe Biden right out of the Democratic nomination for
00:01:07.400 a second term.
00:01:08.340 Then they told us he would get a big celebration on night one of the DNC.
00:01:12.800 The prelude to his ascension to Mount Rushmore.
00:01:17.540 Instead, he didn't even make it into the primetime.
00:01:21.320 It was bad enough they had him booked to speak on Monday, which is where the C-stringers go.
00:01:27.040 But they moved him.
00:01:29.960 He got delayed right out of the primetime by a lot.
00:01:35.960 In fact, so much so that his speech ended on day two of the convention.
00:01:41.000 They did not put him up there until 1130 East Coast time.
00:01:45.920 I guess they don't care if the people in Georgia hear him.
00:01:49.380 The people in North Carolina hear him.
00:01:51.820 The people in New York and D.C. who drive the news cycles hear him.
00:01:54.880 OK, fine.
00:01:56.100 It's your party.
00:01:57.960 It's not to mention it was way past the guy's preferred bedtime.
00:02:01.400 I mean, we heard him himself on that call with the governors when he was trying to assure
00:02:05.380 everybody he could do a second term saying, I really can't do things past 8 p.m. anymore.
00:02:09.940 I'm going to make sure I don't do that.
00:02:11.840 And what do they do?
00:02:12.820 They book him to start at 10 and they don't let him start speaking until 1130.
00:02:18.120 Instead, we heard a long list of no names get up there trying to make their own.
00:02:23.220 Who wanted to hear from Chris Coons, for the love of God?
00:02:27.080 Who gives a shit what he has to say?
00:02:28.960 Put on Joe Biden.
00:02:30.300 He's the sitting president.
00:02:33.060 Like, I'm not his chief defender, but it's the least you could have done.
00:02:37.380 Just to pay the guy his respect for a lifetime of service to the Democrat Party.
00:02:42.400 But no, they needed to put the final treads on Joe Biden's back.
00:02:48.600 That's amazing.
00:02:50.380 He got up there.
00:02:51.100 There wasn't exactly a passing of the torch.
00:02:53.160 He did say some nice things about Kamala.
00:02:55.160 His proudest thing was to make her his vice president and that, you know, he saved democracy.
00:03:01.180 She's going to preserve it.
00:03:03.980 But the speech was mostly focused on his own lengthy political career.
00:03:09.580 It was his swan song moment.
00:03:11.360 And for most of it, he was shouting at us as Dark Brandon returned, you know, like there's
00:03:19.240 the Bruce Wayne and then the Batman character.
00:03:21.580 Only Batman is a lot cooler than Dark Brandon.
00:03:24.340 Well, the darker version of Joe Biden was there for virtually the entire time railing against
00:03:31.880 former President Trump and doing so with, over and over and over again, lies that have been debunked.
00:03:40.120 Donald Trump said, and I quote, there are very fine people on both sides.
00:03:46.960 My God.
00:03:48.660 That's what he said.
00:03:50.860 That is what he said and what he meant.
00:03:52.940 From his own chief of staff, the four star General John Kelly, that Trump when in Europe would
00:04:00.300 not go to the grave sites in one of the, in France, the brave service members who gave
00:04:07.700 their lives to this country.
00:04:09.160 He called them suckers and losers.
00:04:12.320 Who in the hell does he think he is?
00:04:14.280 Who does he think he is?
00:04:17.020 He's promising a bloodbath if he loses in his words.
00:04:23.760 I mean, like literally none of that is true.
00:04:26.160 All of it is out of context, but find people on both sides.
00:04:30.140 I mean, how many times does that need to be debunked, including by Snopes, which is the
00:04:33.440 Democrats favorite fact checking machine?
00:04:35.360 He keeps telling, he doesn't give a shit.
00:04:36.860 Like the alternate realities, according to Joe Biden, where are all the, the excited fact
00:04:41.900 checkers?
00:04:42.640 Where are they?
00:04:43.620 Come on.
00:04:44.680 Come on.
00:04:45.620 You love to fact check everybody on the right.
00:04:48.020 Do your business.
00:04:50.120 Bloodbath.
00:04:50.720 He was talking about the economy and what was going to happen in the
00:04:52.920 auto industry.
00:04:53.820 If that was Trump talking, if Joe Biden got reelected, we know all this dictator on day
00:04:59.340 one was said jokingly, laughingly to Sean Hannity on camera about what he would do at
00:05:04.920 the border.
00:05:05.580 Kind of like what Joe Biden did with all of his executive orders undoing Trump's border
00:05:09.500 policy.
00:05:09.960 This is so ridiculous.
00:05:13.880 Okay.
00:05:14.320 Despite evidence to the contrary, Joe Biden did want you to know he's really not angry
00:05:21.400 about what was done to him at all.
00:05:23.320 It's been the honor of my lifetime to serve as your president.
00:05:29.740 I love the job, but I love my country more.
00:05:36.820 I love my country more.
00:05:38.520 And all this talk about how I'm angry at all those people who said I should step down.
00:05:47.840 That's not true.
00:05:48.940 We love our country.
00:05:50.940 We love our country.
00:05:51.940 We love our country.
00:05:53.940 We love our country.
00:05:54.940 We love our country.
00:05:55.940 We love our country.
00:05:56.940 We love our country.
00:05:57.940 Sure, Jan.
00:05:59.860 And in perhaps the most stunning scene of the entire night, there was former Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
00:06:08.520 Brutus herself waving a, we love Joe sign with the big smile, at least as far as the
00:06:16.300 Botox would allow, like trying to look like she's his number one fan.
00:06:21.520 Wait till you, I mean, look at her front row.
00:06:25.380 We love Joe.
00:06:26.320 We love Joe.
00:06:27.420 We love, we love.
00:06:29.180 It's like something out of a horror movie where the person's like, we love you.
00:06:32.600 We love you.
00:06:33.080 As they stick the knife in and turn it and turn it and you're dying.
00:06:36.160 And she's like, we love you, but I love you.
00:06:38.740 That's what happened there.
00:06:42.020 It was the whole humiliation made me uncomfortable.
00:06:44.960 I got to be honest.
00:06:45.920 I tweeted something out last night to the effect of this, like watching a groom who was dumped
00:06:50.940 on the morning of his wedding day, who then is forced to go to the wedding anyway and watch
00:06:57.680 his bride marry someone else and cheer for it.
00:07:00.140 That's how the whole thing made me feel.
00:07:01.620 He didn't want this, didn't want to be deposed from the nomination he had won legitimately.
00:07:06.960 I get why it happened, but he didn't want it.
00:07:09.260 He had to show up.
00:07:10.800 He had to say nice things about Kamala.
00:07:12.500 He did that.
00:07:13.560 But they kept grandpa in a green room for hours, 81 years old, well past Matlock, tapioca
00:07:19.700 time, and then forced him to go out there at 1130 East Coast time, which is his time.
00:07:24.680 He lives in D.C. and Delaware and do this speech.
00:07:28.060 No wonder he was angry.
00:07:30.440 President Biden now begins a week long tour to support Kamala Harrison.
00:07:35.660 No, no.
00:07:37.720 He's being shipped off on vacation.
00:07:39.740 Vacation from what?
00:07:40.740 He's literally been sitting in Rehoboth, Delaware for weeks doing nothing.
00:07:44.320 We read you the Real Clear Politics rundown of his schedule in August.
00:07:47.020 He's been doing nothing every day.
00:07:49.240 Vice President Biden's schedule, nothing like one phone call, one ceremonial appearance.
00:07:55.120 So now he needs a vacation from all that.
00:07:57.820 Who is president?
00:07:59.200 Who is commander in chief?
00:08:01.700 He's going to California.
00:08:03.780 He's going to enjoy the beautiful sunsets, seashores.
00:08:08.340 His party moves forward, though, with the coronation of Vice President Kamala Harris.
00:08:13.620 And that's just the start of what we witnessed last night.
00:08:16.880 I got a lot of thoughts, and so did the fellas.
00:08:18.700 They're here from the Ruthless program, Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, John Ashbrook, and
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00:09:27.880 I'm so happy you guys are here.
00:09:31.200 Ah!
00:09:33.120 What a rundown.
00:09:34.320 Yeah, I mean, I think that was a pretty good analysis of what had happened.
00:09:39.020 They're so nasty.
00:09:40.220 Just as they had me feeling sorry for Joe Biden, he got up there and told all those lies.
00:09:44.520 And I was like, eh, he deserved it.
00:09:46.480 What did you guys think of last night?
00:09:48.560 Well, I mean, look, I particularly liked your jilted groom analogy.
00:09:53.240 That was pretty good.
00:09:54.040 I've always kind of wanted to go to a wedding where somebody doesn't show up and you have
00:09:57.140 to look around at the crowd and see how they take it.
00:09:59.420 I mean, this is what Democrats basically did to him.
00:10:01.600 They just ragdolled him in public.
00:10:03.540 I mean, Monday, Monday.
00:10:05.160 Republicans put the teamsters guy they didn't want the rest of the party to hear on Monday
00:10:09.620 night.
00:10:10.380 At least they had the common decency to do it within the confines of the hours that people
00:10:14.060 still watch television.
00:10:15.480 They didn't even do that to Joe Biden.
00:10:17.200 You know, I mean, with any other sitting president, you would imagine that you are introducing
00:10:20.960 the new nominee.
00:10:22.980 Right.
00:10:23.460 I mean, if not for Joe Biden, Kamala Harris wouldn't be within a country mile of a Democratic
00:10:28.040 nomination for president.
00:10:29.320 And yet Monday night, late night.
00:10:32.720 And also, is there no editors on that speech?
00:10:34.720 The thing was like, what, 45 minutes or something like that?
00:10:38.620 And in the jilted groom is a very good analogy.
00:10:43.000 Another one that comes to mind.
00:10:44.520 I don't know if you've ever saw that old movie Best in Show by Christopher Guest.
00:10:48.960 Of course.
00:10:49.340 But there's a there's a vignette toward the beginning of it where there's this lady who's
00:10:53.220 taken a tycoon, this old tycoon for all he's worth.
00:10:56.340 And she's sitting next to him and she's like, people say he's so much older than me, but
00:11:01.620 really, I just can't keep him off of me.
00:11:03.800 And the whole time she's just taking his money and the guy can't even talk.
00:11:07.820 And he's just sitting there.
00:11:09.300 Jennifer Coolidge.
00:11:10.500 This is this is what Democrats are doing to their president.
00:11:13.820 It's a really pathetic swan song to a long political career shuffled to midnight.
00:11:19.540 First, first night of the debate, standing on that stage on that stage and saying democracy
00:11:25.860 won, sitting on that stage as the person who won all the votes in the primary and talking
00:11:32.680 about how we're going to anoint Kamala Harris, who won zero votes.
00:11:36.000 How is that democracy winning?
00:11:37.820 It is incredible.
00:11:38.900 And Duncan, also, also honesty matters.
00:11:41.180 He actually said honesty matters right before he said he's there.
00:11:47.120 He said there are fine people on both sides.
00:11:49.260 That's the president.
00:11:51.200 I would also point out that he said the people outside have a point.
00:11:55.580 Oh, yeah.
00:11:56.300 The Hamas protests.
00:11:57.580 And the way he actually said both sides.
00:11:59.680 Hold on.
00:11:59.960 Let's play that.
00:12:00.640 Let's play that because he had his own both sides moment last night talking about those
00:12:03.620 pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas protesters.
00:12:06.200 Watch it.
00:12:06.600 Those protesters out in the street, they have a point.
00:12:12.860 A lot of innocent people are being killed on both sides.
00:12:19.400 He literally said both sides.
00:12:22.300 He ad-libbed that.
00:12:24.260 He said both sides about the pro-Hamas people who are out there saying, get yourself beaten
00:12:29.160 up by the cops for your back to school outfit.
00:12:35.160 Smuggles, what's your take?
00:12:36.280 Well, I mean, I think everyone is saying that it was kind of like a failed night one.
00:12:40.820 I think it was a tremendous success.
00:12:42.400 This was Nancy Pelosi's humiliation ritual.
00:12:46.120 She wanted to spike the football.
00:12:48.280 And like even when she was getting interviewed by some reporters, she was like, I've got no
00:12:52.720 problems with Joe.
00:12:53.600 It was just his campaign I had some issues with.
00:12:55.560 Like she's putting in everyone's face that she ended this guy's career.
00:12:59.620 So she absolutely, you know, got what she wanted out of that.
00:13:02.980 She had him shuffled onto stage at eleven thirty to admit defeat.
00:13:08.680 And in so many ways he admitted defeat when he was angry and shouting about Donald Trump.
00:13:13.840 The only thing that came to mind for me was, wow, he's mad at a guy who so thoroughly beat
00:13:19.820 him.
00:13:20.080 He surrendered and dropped out.
00:13:21.960 Yeah.
00:13:22.100 He seemed small on that stage because he couldn't cut it.
00:13:25.300 He couldn't make it to face Donald Trump.
00:13:27.700 He had to throw in the towel.
00:13:29.260 It also proves that the Democrats know he's a political vulnerability.
00:13:33.340 They don't want Kamala Harris associated with him inside a country mile.
00:13:37.760 All right.
00:13:38.140 The more she's associated as the current vice president and not this change agent with
00:13:42.720 all these new positions, the worse her electoral prospects are.
00:13:46.160 Yeah.
00:13:46.280 It was also just hilarious what a fictional betrayal all of this was.
00:13:49.840 Yeah.
00:13:50.140 Right.
00:13:50.380 I mean, it started at the very beginning and then it was like a cavalcade of of ridiculous
00:13:55.300 has been politicians, which if you look at the lineup, four days of that, you know, but
00:13:59.260 like you get Maxine Waters up on stage.
00:14:02.260 Yeah.
00:14:02.740 Like, are you talking?
00:14:04.040 Oh, yeah.
00:14:04.440 A lot of hope for the future with that situation.
00:14:06.760 I mean, if you're going to choreograph something for hope and change, that ain't it.
00:14:15.480 That ain't it.
00:14:16.200 Like, well, what about I mean, there was the the one there were two touching moments and
00:14:20.640 I'll get to them because I I do, whether it's Democrat or Republican, like the moments that
00:14:24.520 make me feel something.
00:14:25.760 And there was the one moment where Joe Biden came on stage after his daughter, Ashley,
00:14:29.240 had introduced him and they embraced just like by the arms and spoke to each other.
00:14:35.540 And he cried.
00:14:36.540 And that just is like a human.
00:14:38.400 You're like, oh, that's sweet.
00:14:39.620 But then he gets up there and starts spewing all this nastiness.
00:14:43.220 You're like, oh, OK, not sweet.
00:14:44.540 But I was still reeling from her remarks because she gets up there.
00:14:49.000 And of course, you guys know we've covered it here on the show.
00:14:52.580 She's the one who wrote this diary in which she said she took inappropriate showers with
00:14:58.180 him when she was a girl.
00:14:59.500 But she said they're probably not appropriate.
00:15:01.600 So she gets up there and she began her remarks as follows.
00:15:07.020 I have this memory.
00:15:08.780 I was eight years old.
00:15:10.500 We're like, oh, no.
00:15:12.300 My God, she's going to do it.
00:15:16.960 Oh, my God.
00:15:18.440 Every muscle tensed up.
00:15:20.160 I was like, oh, no, Ashley, this is not the time.
00:15:25.460 That was one moment.
00:15:26.900 I'll get to the other nice moment in a minute.
00:15:28.920 But here's here's the other thing.
00:15:30.780 It was like it was a parade of like fakes, phonies and falsehoods.
00:15:38.480 Now, we talked about some of the falsehoods with Joe Biden that just like litany of lies
00:15:42.940 that he just keeps telling and he can get away with.
00:15:46.060 But the weirdness of like the presenters and the lies that they were telling and just like
00:15:50.940 the you've got to be effing kidding me moments that I had watching them.
00:15:54.700 I mean, I sat and I watched that whole damn thing from 8 p.m.
00:15:56.960 forward.
00:15:57.380 I was exhausted.
00:15:58.800 And there is this woman I never confessed, seen this person before, Mallory McMorrow,
00:16:03.980 Michigan State Senator.
00:16:05.300 No, it was that the lizard tongue lady that was lizard tongue.
00:16:09.960 All right.
00:16:10.100 So, first of all, I don't understand why she borrowed my wardrobe from my moot court outfit
00:16:14.380 in 1993, but she definitely did.
00:16:17.060 Oh, my God.
00:16:18.120 That is a murder right there.
00:16:20.720 It's a murder.
00:16:21.820 OK, but she was doing the weirdest stuff with her tongue and worse than any of that was the
00:16:31.400 cluelessness of her warnings to Democrats about what Donald Trump might do if he became president
00:16:38.280 again.
00:16:38.600 Listen, Donald Trump would be able to weaponize the Department of Justice to go after his political
00:16:46.500 opponents.
00:16:48.060 He could even turn the FBI into his own personal police force.
00:16:55.980 That is not how it works in America.
00:17:04.140 That's how it works in dictatorships.
00:17:09.080 Oh, my God.
00:17:11.000 So we're in a dictator.
00:17:13.240 Hello, pot.
00:17:14.240 He might he might even take a he might even take a misdemeanor and turn it into 40 felony
00:17:19.860 charging in New York or send his send his FBI down to your home and raid it and then
00:17:26.780 parade out the evidence for a photo op that is not representative of what they found.
00:17:30.800 That kind of making the FBI your own personal agent, Mallory.
00:17:34.260 And I'm sorry, you can't see the whole outfit, but she was wearing dark, dark tights with
00:17:39.720 inappropriate shoes under her dark dress.
00:17:42.280 I, you know, my favorite thing about Dem conventions and this is it kind of started with like Mario
00:17:50.280 Cuomo.
00:17:51.640 It was maybe before that, but my earliest memory was like Mario Cuomo and then clearly Barack
00:17:55.880 Obama in 2004.
00:17:57.700 There's always this person who nobody's heard of who attempts to sort of capture something
00:18:03.540 that they have absolutely no business capturing.
00:18:05.920 Yeah.
00:18:06.120 Like the town of like Cuomo and in that convention or Obama and in 04 was obvious and it vaulted
00:18:13.620 them to national stardom and eventually two terms as president for Obama.
00:18:17.760 But like this lady, you know, for a fact, spent the last month thinking like, all right, I'm
00:18:22.200 really going to lean into this because this is my mom.
00:18:24.320 Like I too can be president if I just go out and just slam it.
00:18:28.980 Right.
00:18:29.300 That's a big problem.
00:18:30.080 I think that's a huge problem is that especially after the Barack Obama 2004 moment, you have
00:18:36.240 all these backbenchers who are like, it could be me.
00:18:38.400 Yeah.
00:18:38.580 I could be that guy.
00:18:39.820 Yeah.
00:18:39.940 I go up there.
00:18:40.860 I give a great speech and the next day I'm going to be president and it's not the case.
00:18:45.420 Let's look at the lizard tongue.
00:18:48.960 We need to show the audience what we're talking about because I think Mallory had a case of
00:18:53.440 the dry mouth.
00:18:54.320 That's my Mallory there.
00:18:56.620 There's medication that can help you with that.
00:18:58.540 You don't have to live like this.
00:19:00.760 Save yourself.
00:19:02.420 Just rub you a water or something.
00:19:06.220 Save us from this thing.
00:19:08.100 Yeah.
00:19:08.220 Yikes.
00:19:08.660 Okay.
00:19:09.060 But on your point, guys, about wannabe stars, that leads me to AOC.
00:19:15.280 Okay.
00:19:17.420 It wasn't it.
00:19:18.920 When I saw people on the internet praising her last night, even Republicans, some Republicans
00:19:22.480 like, oh, this is a great speech.
00:19:24.140 I thought, have you never actually seen an effective female public speaker?
00:19:27.600 Like they think they mistake energy or like enthusiasm for effectiveness.
00:19:33.820 I mean, anyone can get up there and shout at you.
00:19:36.820 She can shout at you.
00:19:38.180 It doesn't make you a good public speaker.
00:19:41.520 It was like an assault.
00:19:42.820 It was right.
00:19:43.380 Don't you feel assaulted by what I just did?
00:19:45.120 That's how I felt listening to her.
00:19:47.740 So I have a whole theory on, on her and I'm going to walk you through my theory.
00:19:51.560 And now I want your tape now.
00:19:54.200 I hear, so I'm going to start with what I think she was going for AOC, which is what
00:19:59.220 she was going for.
00:20:00.080 Smug just made a reference to it.
00:20:01.540 And it has to do with then regular Barack Obama before he ran for president in 2004 at
00:20:10.240 the DNC.
00:20:10.940 This is what made him a star this moment.
00:20:13.380 I say to them tonight, there is not a liberal America and a conservative America.
00:20:18.700 There is the United States of America.
00:20:21.440 There is not a black America and a white America and Latino America and Asian America.
00:20:29.480 There's the United States of America.
00:20:32.020 The pundits, the pundits, the pundits like to slice and dice our country into red states
00:20:40.280 and blue states, red states for Republicans, blue states for Democrats.
00:20:45.140 But I've got news for them, too.
00:20:46.560 We worship an awesome God in the blue states, and we don't like federal agents poking around
00:20:51.660 in our libraries in the red states.
00:20:53.280 Okay, he would be canceled for saying that today.
00:20:56.740 Yeah, you'd get booed off the stage if he said that enough.
00:20:59.480 The convention, their convention today has these diversified groups meeting all day.
00:21:03.100 The LGBTQ caucus and the black caucus and the Hispanic caucus and the, there's not a white
00:21:06.920 caucus.
00:21:07.560 But anyway, okay, so that's Barack Obama, who was then an Illinois state senator in 2004,
00:21:11.560 made himself a star.
00:21:12.880 That's what AOC was going for.
00:21:14.440 That's what they all go for.
00:21:15.660 They fail.
00:21:16.200 There's only one Barack Obama.
00:21:17.440 There will never be another Barack Obama.
00:21:18.880 I'm sorry, find your own style.
00:21:20.700 You're not good at imitation.
00:21:21.900 Here was AOC's attempt, and pay particular attention to the fake accent that comes in
00:21:28.940 toward the end.
00:21:30.020 In Kamala Harris, we have a chance to elect a president who is for the middle class because
00:21:37.460 she is from the middle class.
00:21:39.820 And I, for one, am tired of hearing about how a two-bit union buster thinks of himself
00:21:50.420 as more of a patriot than the woman who fights every single day to lift working people out
00:21:58.560 from under the boots to breathe, traveling on our way of life.
00:22:03.060 Ever since I got elected, Republicans have attacked me by saying that I should go back
00:22:11.240 to bartending.
00:22:15.040 But let me tell you, I'm happy to any day of the week because there is nothing wrong with
00:22:22.360 working for a living.
00:22:26.220 Cool.
00:22:27.040 Get me a skinny margarita.
00:22:28.180 That's what she was going for.
00:22:32.640 She was going for Barack Obama.
00:22:34.920 But this is what she reminded me of.
00:22:37.200 I mean, entirely.
00:22:38.320 I give you Hilaria Baldwin.
00:22:41.340 I want you guys to realize that we have seven kids.
00:22:46.080 And you being here to escort them to school and to be there when they come home is not
00:22:53.860 good.
00:22:54.760 This woman is not Spanish.
00:22:55.680 You guys know I'm not going to say anything to you.
00:22:59.180 You know that.
00:23:00.600 So please leave my family in peace and let this all play out.
00:23:06.620 Okay?
00:23:07.380 So let my kids come home and you stay away from them.
00:23:11.400 Because they asked me, Mommy, what are these people doing?
00:23:17.420 She's not Spanish speaking.
00:23:19.540 So please, go home, because I'm not going to say anything and Alec is not going to say
00:23:24.940 anything.
00:23:25.920 She's like, por favor.
00:23:27.460 Por favor.
00:23:28.880 How do you say cucumber?
00:23:31.220 And this is my final soundbite in this little riff.
00:23:34.620 So she was a cross between Hilaria, who went to a fancy boarding school in either Boston
00:23:39.540 or Rhode Island, and isn't Spanish at all.
00:23:43.400 And also this guy.
00:23:46.080 You may remember him from World War II as the leader of Italy.
00:23:50.560 Oh, my God.
00:23:51.640 Megan is just drinking out the 50 gallon.
00:24:06.100 This is hot fire today.
00:24:09.280 Wow.
00:24:11.620 Agree or disagree?
00:24:13.180 Well, I'm conflicted about AOC.
00:24:15.280 I agree.
00:24:15.780 I agree with what you were saying.
00:24:17.300 But I'm conflicted about sort of who she is and how I don't think there's anybody who
00:24:22.420 better captures the ethos of today's Democratic Party than AOC.
00:24:27.480 I mean, we may think it's absolutely ridiculous, but that is entirely consistent with everything
00:24:32.440 that you see from the very top to the very bottom, from the center left to the progressive
00:24:38.800 left.
00:24:39.660 I mean, everything is captured by who AOC is.
00:24:44.720 And I think this convention is actually a part of that.
00:24:46.780 Right.
00:24:47.000 There's no real attempt to explain to the center of the electorate why it is that everything
00:24:51.620 has sucked so bad under Joe Biden.
00:24:53.780 It's basically inventing a new reality, throwing some yelling at you, telling you you're going
00:24:58.500 to fight for stuff, and then just kind of expecting people to get in line behind somebody
00:25:03.280 who's never gotten a single primary vote.
00:25:05.160 There's no incentive for them to correct, because if you followed Twitter last night, the media
00:25:10.940 was just globbing all over her.
00:25:13.560 They were saying how great she was, and this is the best speech ever.
00:25:17.720 So why would they ever, of course, correct?
00:25:19.560 Because the feedback loop they get is just nothing but positive.
00:25:22.800 Well, and she she was sort of alluding to this dignity of work, which I think is central
00:25:26.880 to the American ethos isn't really a Democrat thing or Republican thing.
00:25:30.500 But instead of doing that thing and that thing alone, which everybody agrees with, she's
00:25:36.040 like working under the boot of greed.
00:25:39.620 And it's like, well, when did this become a class struggle?
00:25:43.100 This is a struggle session now because you work hard.
00:25:46.060 And that's the thing.
00:25:46.500 So I picked up on that, and I also agree with what Holmes said of how emblematic that AOC
00:25:51.460 is of the party because she's a fraud, right?
00:25:54.420 Yeah.
00:25:54.580 This is someone who grew up in one of the most expensive parts of New York, right?
00:26:00.140 Saying that, oh, we're going to fight back against the boot of greed because she's just
00:26:05.260 paying lip service.
00:26:06.600 Yeah.
00:26:06.800 To that stupid socialist foot soldiers that they need out there to be a threat that, hey,
00:26:12.700 listen, if you don't vote our way, there's a reason that businesses get boarded up on
00:26:16.760 election day.
00:26:17.580 You know, she's completely been absorbed by the party establishment in her short time
00:26:23.080 of getting elected, winning that primary.
00:26:25.040 She's now been brought into, OK, you can give a convention speech.
00:26:28.220 And and she's mad that she gets chased down by these Gaza protesters when she's trying to
00:26:32.340 watch a movie.
00:26:32.940 She's like, I'm watching a movie at the theater.
00:26:34.860 Can't you save your genocide talk for some other time?
00:26:38.220 Yeah, she's no longer.
00:26:39.260 She's Sandy from Westchester.
00:26:42.300 That's AOC is Sandy from Westchester.
00:26:44.620 Now she's suddenly like Latino speaking from the Bronx.
00:26:48.740 Like you're so entire party is a fraud.
00:26:51.640 And like when they talk about how they're going to help working people, they're the ones who
00:26:55.740 have put the boots on the working class's neck with the way inflation has gone up over
00:26:59.360 the four years.
00:26:59.960 It's a huge fraud.
00:27:00.980 Is that like a Rosie Perez sort of thing you're doing there?
00:27:04.240 I mean, that is what I hear her doing.
00:27:09.280 I am imitating.
00:27:09.820 That is really good.
00:27:10.860 I'm imitating a Spanish person.
00:27:11.680 Oh, yeah.
00:27:12.340 That's really good.
00:27:13.480 That's my my Spanish imitation of her Spanish.
00:27:16.380 And by the way, speaking of which, now they've been doing like the parade of celebrities there.
00:27:19.560 And is it tonight that Anna Navarro is their celebrity?
00:27:22.720 Oh, my God.
00:27:24.460 Oh, my God.
00:27:25.140 They got to the celebrity now somehow.
00:27:27.060 They are fresh out.
00:27:27.800 I'm sorry, but that's like the kind of celebrity you'd find at a Republican National Convention
00:27:30.820 where they can't find it.
00:27:31.960 Bird.
00:27:33.300 Bird.
00:27:33.820 I don't know.
00:27:34.340 We had Megyn Kelly walking around.
00:27:35.700 That was pretty good.
00:27:36.280 The Republican National Convention.
00:27:37.240 That's a pretty big celebrity.
00:27:39.520 So wait.
00:27:40.400 You raise a very good point about the class warfare.
00:27:42.560 All right.
00:27:42.860 So and they're all fakers.
00:27:43.760 Right.
00:27:44.020 So Sandy from Westchester is Nazanatino from the Bronx.
00:27:47.300 And also her being like Kamala Harris.
00:27:50.240 She understands middle class because she is from the middle class.
00:27:53.060 So Kamala Harris's dad was a professor at Stanford.
00:27:58.580 Her mom had a Ph.D. from Berkeley.
00:28:02.220 So she may have grown up in a duplex because the mom wasn't rich and they got a divorce young.
00:28:08.920 But that doesn't make her some sort of middle class champion.
00:28:12.100 She's been making hundreds of thousands of dollars on the taxpayer dime ever since she
00:28:17.560 got out of school.
00:28:18.480 So I hate the rewrite.
00:28:20.260 Like she's actually not some poor pull herself up by the bootstraps.
00:28:24.700 It's like, you know how many actual working class people would love to have had parents
00:28:28.780 double Ph.D.'s, a respected Ph.D. scientist and professor at Stanford.
00:28:35.220 And she still gets to run around and say, like, I'm just like you.
00:28:38.500 OK, so they're fake.
00:28:39.540 And then you get this attack on somebody who actually is not middle class, working class.
00:28:47.020 I mean, he was poor.
00:28:48.680 His family was poor.
00:28:50.260 His mamaw did a little better.
00:28:52.300 But his mom was a drug addict.
00:28:54.580 J.D. Vance, I'm speaking of, who really couldn't hold down a job.
00:28:57.400 He had no father whatsoever in the picture.
00:28:59.740 And this and yet he pulled himself up.
00:29:02.780 He pulled himself up by you by going to the military, doing a service honorably and then
00:29:07.680 coming back and crushing it at Ohio State.
00:29:09.920 And then he parlayed that in a Yale law school.
00:29:11.540 And here are the Democrats.
00:29:13.460 I'll give you Ohio Representative Beatty speaking about the J.D. Vance story.
00:29:19.040 Now, J.D. Vance likes to talk about how he's from Ohio.
00:29:27.400 But as soon as he could, he ran away to Yale and Silicon Valley, cozying up with billionaires
00:29:37.520 while trashing our communities.
00:29:40.040 Communities.
00:29:42.260 Unbelievable.
00:29:43.520 Lives in Cincinnati.
00:29:44.680 Leave Ohio to go to Yale.
00:29:46.800 It is very, very funny for Joyce Beatty, of all people, to be calling J.D. Vance some
00:29:52.780 sort of elitist.
00:29:53.880 When she was appointed to her husband's state rep seat in Ohio, she's been a professional
00:29:59.260 politician for 40 years.
00:30:01.840 Yeah, that's exactly right.
00:30:03.400 When J.D. Vance was deploying to Iraq and then comes back, goes to Ohio State and parlays
00:30:08.000 that into Yale, she had her entire career handed to her by her husband.
00:30:12.300 So it's absolutely incredible for her, of all people, to call him the elitist.
00:30:16.820 And that's the thing, is the absolute hypocrisy and just moral bankruptcy of these people that's
00:30:21.780 being put on display.
00:30:22.860 When you have Kamala Harris being like, you know, she's she brought herself up as a champion
00:30:28.160 of the middle class.
00:30:29.000 Every job she's ever had, she was appointed to.
00:30:32.480 And every single one of those jobs was a government job being paid for by taxpayers.
00:30:36.460 I don't think people realize this.
00:30:39.060 When you look at who's on the ticket, you've got Tim Balls, who's been on a government job
00:30:44.740 his entire lifetime.
00:30:45.740 Kamala Harris, who has never worked in the private sector either.
00:30:48.620 And then you've got J.D. Vance and Donald Trump.
00:30:50.520 Like, how are you going to say that?
00:30:52.660 You know what?
00:30:53.280 I'm going to help you hardworking folks out there when you've never had to have a real
00:30:57.920 job.
00:30:58.280 You know you're not going to lose a government job.
00:31:00.320 Well, and I never heard this complaint about, I don't know, Barack Obama leaving Chicago
00:31:05.720 community organizing to go to Harvard.
00:31:07.480 Well, he left him behind.
00:31:08.600 Was he leaving Chicago behind?
00:31:10.540 Yeah.
00:31:11.060 And this closing up with billionaires is OK.
00:31:13.600 Like, I met J.D. Vance in 17 when he was, I don't know, I guess 34.
00:31:20.660 And he had gone to law school.
00:31:23.380 And he might have even been younger, whatever that was.
00:31:25.100 Let's do the math.
00:31:25.860 Now it's 24, so seven, so seven years ago.
00:31:29.040 So he was 30, 33.
00:31:32.220 He had gone to Yale Law.
00:31:33.580 He had done the Ohio State into Yale Law School.
00:31:36.340 And then he went out to Silicon Valley for, I think, five years, made some money, decided
00:31:41.180 it wasn't for him.
00:31:41.840 He told me personally he couldn't handle San Francisco.
00:31:44.100 People were defecating on the street.
00:31:45.840 He was like, I'm out of here.
00:31:47.540 And so he left all that money.
00:31:49.540 He left a very well paying job with Peter Thiel and came back home to Ohio.
00:31:55.140 And was starting a foundation for his fellow Ohioans trying to help them improve their
00:32:00.840 lives.
00:32:01.180 That's what he was doing.
00:32:01.780 I found him at 17.
00:32:03.080 It would take a few more years before he would even run for office.
00:32:05.980 So to the contrary, he left a high paying job to come home to Ohio to figure out what
00:32:10.820 he could do for them.
00:32:11.540 And ultimately, he ran for office there to try to do that for them.
00:32:14.540 But this is not a one off from this representative Beatty, Tim Waltz.
00:32:19.040 That what a jerk has said the same thing.
00:32:22.480 Listen to him.
00:32:23.000 They're running for He-Man Women Haters Club or something.
00:32:27.500 That angst that J.D.
00:32:28.860 Vance talks about in Hillbilly Elegy, none of my Hillbilly cousins went to Yale and none
00:32:33.600 of them went on to be adventure capitalists or whatever.
00:32:37.660 It's not who people really are.
00:32:40.660 Well, maybe they were dumb.
00:32:42.860 I don't know anything about his Hillbilly relatives.
00:32:45.220 How are we supposed to make a judgment based on that?
00:32:47.620 How are we supposed to know he actually has Hillbilly relatives?
00:32:50.320 I mean, this guy has told lies about absolutely everything under the sun.
00:32:54.620 Newest this morning in the New York Times.
00:32:56.700 Apparently, he said that he and his wife had IVF.
00:33:00.140 And yes, that wasn't true.
00:33:01.920 Did you see this?
00:33:02.720 Yeah, that was a lot of times.
00:33:04.440 In addition to him saying that he was Newt Rockne and led the team to the national change.
00:33:09.060 And he was actually just a defensive coordinator.
00:33:11.800 And then he was in battle.
00:33:14.140 Yeah.
00:33:15.000 Just tell the truth.
00:33:16.580 You know, just say I was one of the coaches on the team.
00:33:19.800 My wife and I did that.
00:33:21.100 You know, like, why do they have to exaggerate on absolutely everything?
00:33:24.180 The guy is completely dishonest.
00:33:24.700 No, they made him into Craig T. Nelson in that TV series.
00:33:28.240 You know, or Coach T.
00:33:29.760 And Friday Night Lights.
00:33:30.920 No, he's like an assistant volunteer expendable coach on the team.
00:33:35.000 And the IVF thing, it really is amazing.
00:33:38.140 Tomorrow, we're having on Liz Collin of Alpha News, who's been doing great reporting on Tim
00:33:41.680 Walls for a long time.
00:33:43.120 But yes, that's one of the stories we're going to get into.
00:33:45.440 Because we have tape of him on camera saying, we conceived our children through IVF, which
00:33:51.580 J.D. Vance wants to ban.
00:33:53.160 J.D. Vance doesn't want to ban IVF.
00:33:54.640 That's a lie.
00:33:55.600 But his wife, Gwen, came out and admitted that they conceived their children through intrauterine
00:34:01.100 insemination, which is not IVF.
00:34:04.160 It's basically where they insert the man's semen directly into you with like a turkey
00:34:08.540 baster.
00:34:09.160 It's not where a child is conceived, sorry, in a Petri dish outside of either parent.
00:34:17.320 And now that's the latter.
00:34:18.820 And I use the latter so I can speak to this.
00:34:21.760 It's more controversial because then what do you do with the excess embryos, right?
00:34:25.640 Like that's why people find IVF controversial.
00:34:28.660 There's no such problem with intrauterine insemination.
00:34:31.980 It's it's just a different means of delivering the sperm versus the one we all normally use.
00:34:37.760 Anyway, this is not on my bingo card.
00:34:41.620 Megan's saying turkey baster.
00:34:50.900 I'm just going to get under the desk and let you all figure it out for a while.
00:34:54.580 I got you.
00:34:55.480 I got you a graphic.
00:34:56.820 I'm sorry.
00:34:57.600 I didn't mean for it to.
00:35:00.000 He lied.
00:35:01.000 It's another.
00:35:01.900 It's just another lie.
00:35:03.360 He didn't use IVF.
00:35:05.080 It's the guy.
00:35:06.240 Every day there's a new lie from him.
00:35:07.620 But yeah, and I understand he was introduced with, again, the wrong title yesterday.
00:35:13.060 Oh, yeah.
00:35:13.560 When he was speaking to come.
00:35:14.540 Yes.
00:35:15.060 I mean, oh, we have it.
00:35:16.100 We have that.
00:35:16.760 Listen to this smug.
00:35:17.580 Here he is.
00:35:18.180 They oh, we don't have it.
00:35:19.220 We don't have it, but we'll have it.
00:35:20.420 But every they know he shouldn't be called command sergeant major.
00:35:23.700 He never actually earned it.
00:35:24.740 It was a temporary title that he didn't train for.
00:35:26.800 Go ahead, smug.
00:35:27.220 And that's why I feel fact checks aren't effective is because we already know that they have
00:35:34.120 complete control over the media and that the media they have say, oh, you know, the truth
00:35:40.580 is important.
00:35:41.200 Democracy dies in darkness.
00:35:42.520 And they will like it was hilarious that C-SPAN even put across the top.
00:35:45.520 We are not or we are not life checking these statements because it's a Democrat convention.
00:35:50.800 Don't you know this?
00:35:51.720 You people like at the same time, the Democrats are allowed to run roughshod, say whatever lies
00:35:56.760 they want, which is why I think the focal point needs to not be on trying to fight facts
00:36:01.100 with facts and just focus on fighting fire with fire.
00:36:03.460 The American people are in a position where they are fed up with the way things are going.
00:36:07.220 And if we're not careful, the Democrats are going to try to steal that this is a change
00:36:10.200 election from under us because the vast majority of the public wants a new direction from the
00:36:15.560 horrible way things have been going for these past few years.
00:36:17.640 And Kamala Harris is trying to run away from her part in making that happen.
00:36:21.460 And instead of worrying about like, well, you know what?
00:36:23.960 This is a lie.
00:36:25.060 Just hammer that message down.
00:36:27.020 Like you've seen what these people are capable of.
00:36:29.560 They're liars and they're horrible people.
00:36:31.280 This is what we can do different.
00:36:32.380 And this is what we have done differently.
00:36:33.840 I think that's really well said, Smug.
00:36:35.560 You know, one of the things I find so fascinating about Democratic national conventions and things
00:36:39.340 like that is you get a window into the information silo that makes up the liberal part of this
00:36:45.780 country.
00:36:46.320 And it's a wild place.
00:36:48.140 I mean, it is almost everything that came out of anyone's mouth for, God, what felt
00:36:53.820 like 24 hours last night was just made up.
00:36:58.100 Right.
00:36:58.540 I mean, it's just not at all what's happening in this country.
00:37:02.020 And to your point that you just made, I mean, they want to act as though what's happening
00:37:07.340 here at this convention is somehow divorced from the reality of a Biden administration in
00:37:11.880 which she was the number two.
00:37:13.080 And everything's going shitty and they just want to pretend like, I mean, there was there
00:37:17.660 were comments about like, well, these Trump's lying to you about the border, the border.
00:37:23.080 They basically did the border secure thing again.
00:37:25.100 Yeah.
00:37:25.740 You know, and they're talking about the economy.
00:37:27.240 They're talking about all these things like none of it is true.
00:37:30.240 Yeah.
00:37:30.640 It's a little hyperbole in a political convention, but there also has to be just a touch of under
00:37:35.960 undergirding fact.
00:37:37.360 Well, if you didn't know any better, you would think Donald Trump's the current president.
00:37:40.660 Yeah.
00:37:40.940 That's the sort of election they're trying to run right now.
00:37:43.580 And I mean, to Smug's point, we can't lose the fact that this election needs to be a
00:37:48.260 referendum on the last four years of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
00:37:51.080 We cannot have this be a choice election where she's allowed to reinvent herself and pretend
00:37:56.280 like she didn't have all those crazy positions in 2019.
00:38:00.020 You've got Kamala Harris, who's done nothing but fail upward.
00:38:03.540 You know, she she has been elected to office, but only in blue, blue areas, California, first
00:38:10.400 DA, then attorney general, then as California senator.
00:38:13.320 And then she got elevated to the vice presidency because he promised James Clyburn he'd find
00:38:17.480 a black woman.
00:38:18.300 And so she got elevated there.
00:38:20.440 And she is not the only one who we saw on the stage last night who was an obvious DEI
00:38:25.520 hire.
00:38:25.860 That leads me to Kathy Hochul, who is another absolute moron.
00:38:30.860 She is sadly the governor of the state that I spent 50 years of my life in.
00:38:35.800 And she got there because Andrew Cuomo imploded and she was a lieutenant governor.
00:38:40.700 And amazingly, they reelected her.
00:38:42.780 I mean, they reelected her.
00:38:44.860 And I think, you know, watching her last night, it's because of just her soaring rhetoric,
00:38:51.680 her ability to turn a phrase and just provide huge doses of inspo without much effort like
00:38:57.420 this one.
00:38:57.940 Watch.
00:38:59.340 New York's motto is excelsior ever upward.
00:39:04.240 Oh, my God.
00:39:05.280 And Trump takes us ever downward.
00:39:08.040 That's just that's how, you know, you completely disrespect your voter base and just hold them
00:39:16.100 in absolute contempt.
00:39:17.120 Is that like Trump bad?
00:39:20.940 Everyone claps.
00:39:23.080 Yes.
00:39:24.180 I can understand that charisma of roadkill.
00:39:27.480 Yeah.
00:39:27.740 You know, she's not even the word like she was lieutenant governor.
00:39:32.440 Look at the lieutenant governor in Minnesota.
00:39:34.680 She's given Hochul a run for her money.
00:39:36.580 This one's named Peggy Flanagan.
00:39:39.200 My name in the Ojibwe language is or in English speaks with a clear and loud voice woman.
00:39:50.580 I'm a member of the White Earth Nation and my family is the Wolf Clan.
00:39:57.240 And the role of our clan is to ensure that we never leave anyone behind.
00:40:01.800 That's why I am supporting Kamala Harris and Tim Walls to be the next president and vice
00:40:08.400 president of the United States.
00:40:10.280 I work side by side with Governor Walls.
00:40:14.160 I've seen how hard he's worked to Minnesota for Minnesota to be the best place for kids
00:40:19.020 to grow up.
00:40:19.680 He does it all with a big heart, a buffalo plaid jacket, and a bottomless bag of snacks,
00:40:28.420 nutter butters, cheese curds, and diet do.
00:40:31.840 Your tribe doesn't leave anybody behind unless you're an 82-year-old incumbent president of
00:40:38.800 the United States, in which case, very much behind.
00:40:41.540 Well, I really appreciate that breakdown of, you know, her Native American family's history
00:40:46.360 from Peggy Flanagan.
00:40:47.580 Yeah.
00:40:48.440 Peggy Flanagan.
00:40:50.400 I got a feel for those tribes.
00:40:52.380 You know, she probably came in.
00:40:53.740 They're like, oh, liberal lady, you're so loud.
00:40:57.620 We will just give you a name.
00:40:58.700 We will give you a name if you'll go away.
00:41:01.780 Please go away.
00:41:04.600 You can have a fancy name.
00:41:06.960 Here's your, take your Chardonnay and move off the reservation, Peggy.
00:41:12.200 Just look at the lineup of Democrat speakers.
00:41:16.880 It's all their elite bureaucrats.
00:41:18.880 Yes.
00:41:19.140 The contrast between what Democrats are putting forward in prime time and what Republicans
00:41:23.480 put forward, which was gold star mothers and small business owners and family members of
00:41:29.320 Hamas hostages.
00:41:31.020 Yeah.
00:41:31.180 There were regular real people in prime time for Republicans.
00:41:34.380 I think it shows you a huge contrast in the values of each party in this election.
00:41:39.040 Also, I think you touched on something really important that I've been thinking about ever
00:41:42.040 since, Megan, you mentioned that, like, who is president right now?
00:41:45.240 And I think the Democrats have this country exactly where they've always wanted it, is
00:41:50.840 that it doesn't matter who's in leadership or who's, you know, quote, calling the shots.
00:41:56.160 They've created these layers and layers of bureaucracy to just keep their machine rolling.
00:42:01.980 They can even have a change of presidency.
00:42:03.560 Like Trump came in as president.
00:42:04.780 There were still layers and layers of this bureaucracy that can keep the work going, that
00:42:09.040 can keep the money flowing to the various pet projects, that they can spend $50 billion
00:42:12.860 to build seven charge stations, that they can spend $40 billion and not get a single wireless
00:42:17.780 internet station in the ground.
00:42:19.660 This is what they're after, is the machine to dole out to keep this game going.
00:42:23.800 And they want to protect it.
00:42:25.180 The lizard lady with the bad clothes that Megan was talking about.
00:42:28.520 One of the things she said, I don't know if you guys caught this, but she was like,
00:42:32.800 Donald Trump might fire federal employees.
00:42:36.640 Yeah.
00:42:37.720 She was horrified.
00:42:40.020 How soon can we get him in there?
00:42:42.260 Yeah.
00:42:42.860 I will tell you, okay, this is my one other nice moment of the night.
00:42:48.940 I'm going to say something nice.
00:42:49.860 You know who actually I wound up liking?
00:42:53.340 I like, I like our politics are different.
00:42:54.980 She was, she hates Trump, but I liked this woman, Jasmine Crockett.
00:42:59.160 I actually, I've only seen her being kind of a shit stirrer on Capitol Hill and that's
00:43:03.380 fine.
00:43:03.640 That's what they kind of do.
00:43:04.600 But, um, she told a nice story about Kamala.
00:43:09.120 I was like, this is what they should be doing.
00:43:11.060 Get up there, try to rehabilitate this woman who we know is a bully from, we know this from
00:43:17.220 the Washington Post and other mainstream media outlets that have been reporting on it when
00:43:21.420 she was not yet the nominee.
00:43:22.580 She was still just the lowly vice president.
00:43:24.700 So they felt fine taking shots at her.
00:43:26.680 Um, but we need stories like that, right?
00:43:29.960 If her, her party needs that, if they want her to get elected.
00:43:32.560 So Jasmine Crockett got up there.
00:43:34.480 And at first I was like, how did this nobody get a speaking role at the convention?
00:43:38.500 And then I was like, you know what?
00:43:39.900 She's winning me over because she told a nice story.
00:43:43.180 She talked about how she was a public defender.
00:43:45.140 And so she knows a good prosecutor when she sees her.
00:43:48.100 That was good.
00:43:49.100 You know, she laid the foundation 20 years.
00:43:50.780 She'd been doing that before she ran for Congress.
00:43:52.460 And then she told this story when I visited the vice president's residence for the first
00:43:57.920 time, as I approached vice president Harris for our official photo, she turned to me and
00:44:06.300 asked, what's wrong?
00:44:10.080 Mind you, we'd never met, but she saw right through me.
00:44:15.640 She saw the distress.
00:44:18.560 I immediately began crying.
00:44:22.460 And the most powerful woman in the world, wipe my tears and listen.
00:44:39.040 That was sweet.
00:44:48.860 I like that story.
00:44:49.660 Good story.
00:44:50.440 Right.
00:44:50.880 It was good.
00:44:51.420 And I was just so cynical, though.
00:44:53.740 I'm just so cynical about this stuff.
00:44:56.100 Okay.
00:44:56.500 I was just warming up to her.
00:44:58.460 And then she said this.
00:44:59.640 The question before us is, will a vindictive, vile villain violate voters' vision?
00:45:15.600 For a better America or not, I hear alliterations are back in style.
00:45:20.680 I'll give her this.
00:45:26.900 I mean, she's got, she's got personality, right?
00:45:29.160 Which is more than you see out of most Democrats.
00:45:31.240 I don't really care for the wedding singer attire.
00:45:33.800 Yeah.
00:45:34.520 It's not my, yeah, that wouldn't have chewed.
00:45:37.340 It's a lot.
00:45:38.200 It's a lot.
00:45:38.680 It's a lot.
00:45:40.580 But, you know, I mean, look, I'm so cynical about this.
00:45:43.180 Looking from Kamala Harris's point of view, what do they have?
00:45:46.020 Like, a five-seat majority in the House.
00:45:48.120 That lady takes a walk.
00:45:50.820 They're going to be real down.
00:45:53.140 Like, Republicans are going to be able to pass things.
00:45:54.620 I mean, she was first elected in 22 with a very slim Republican majority.
00:45:58.100 She's losing a Democratic vote.
00:45:59.660 They were in the midst of a speaker fight, if you remember, where they still held out
00:46:03.180 hopes that Hakeem Jeffries would actually be speaker because Republicans were self-immolating
00:46:07.440 at that point.
00:46:08.360 Like, the idea that she's just sort of, like, personally drawn towards a stranger, I think,
00:46:12.960 is belied by the rest of her career.
00:46:14.500 So you are suggesting, Josh Holmes, that Kamala Harris's wiping of the tears was instant.
00:46:20.980 It was like, shore up.
00:46:22.920 Get in there and vote our way.
00:46:24.860 That's exactly what I'm suggesting.
00:46:27.540 I haven't known an authentic emotion from an elected Democrat in some 20 years of doing
00:46:32.180 this, right?
00:46:32.940 I mean, it's just, it's all so bad.
00:46:36.440 And the Dr. Seuss routine isn't bad.
00:46:39.060 She's got a good personality.
00:46:40.380 She's very entertaining.
00:46:41.380 That's the thing.
00:46:42.460 Like, I kind of don't mind.
00:46:43.740 I expect them to just lie with impunity.
00:46:46.200 And that's what we got.
00:46:47.260 But at least if you're going to lie to me, make it entertaining.
00:46:49.400 She made it entertaining.
00:46:50.200 So what you're saying, I'm interested in your guys' take on that.
00:46:53.860 What you're saying is that Kamala Harris in that moment was another version of the weirdly
00:46:59.340 smiling Nancy Pelosi.
00:47:00.920 We love Joe.
00:47:02.880 Another version.
00:47:03.460 Yeah, I think so.
00:47:06.100 I mean, look, Nancy Pelosi is a perfect embodiment.
00:47:09.120 She's been at the top.
00:47:10.200 So she's had more scrutiny.
00:47:11.280 And so you can see into how she operates more clearly.
00:47:15.460 But it's not unique and distinct to Nancy Pelosi.
00:47:18.560 It's unique and distinct to the Democratic Party to the point where if you had any questions
00:47:22.740 about that, look what they did to the incumbent president of the United States eight weeks ago.
00:47:25.800 They don't give a shit about anything other than holding on to power, whatever vestige of power
00:47:33.160 that they have, trying to drag this country as far left as they could possibly do it.
00:47:38.600 They've caught the bus on a number of occasions.
00:47:41.460 And the only thing they can do is reinvent a further left place to take us.
00:47:46.120 Yeah, you're exactly right.
00:47:47.700 When Chuck Tumor went for that private meeting with Joe Biden, it wasn't about how do we
00:47:52.260 get your face on Mount Rushmore before this election?
00:47:55.520 You know what I mean?
00:47:56.460 Ruthless broke.
00:47:57.100 You make a great point.
00:47:58.140 Yeah.
00:47:58.420 Right.
00:47:58.960 That's right.
00:47:59.560 Thank you.
00:48:00.080 Ruthless broke the news.
00:48:00.560 Thank you, Meg.
00:48:01.400 One of the few who prayed us with that.
00:48:03.240 That was the beginning of the end.
00:48:04.960 Yeah.
00:48:05.180 So, I mean, I just couldn't believe, like, Nancy Pelosi, she was up there.
00:48:09.400 Do we have that soundbite of her on CNN talking about how, you know, it wasn't about
00:48:14.940 him.
00:48:15.200 It was about his party.
00:48:16.480 But she admits, like, she's now admitting she did it.
00:48:19.320 Here she is.
00:48:19.780 And I know that there, it was very difficult for him.
00:48:22.740 That's been made very clear by some of his top aides, like Anita Dunn and Ron Klain.
00:48:28.660 And there does seem to be, even though Anita Dunn said earlier today, quote, nobody wants
00:48:32.620 to have a fight with Nancy Pelosi at this time, unquote, it does seem like there's some residual
00:48:38.880 bad blood or resentment.
00:48:40.340 And I'm wondering if you've spoken to him and what your response is to that.
00:48:44.740 Sometimes you just have to take a punch for the children.
00:48:48.420 And that's what you're doing right now.
00:48:49.600 You're just going to take the punch for the children.
00:48:51.480 I have to do what I have to do.
00:48:53.740 Right.
00:48:54.320 He made the decision for the country.
00:48:57.620 My concern was not about the president.
00:48:59.940 It was about his campaign.
00:49:02.660 Nobody is questioning the fact that the Democratic Party seems much better positioned right now
00:49:07.840 than it did four weeks and two days ago.
00:49:10.120 There's no question about that.
00:49:11.540 Former Speaker Pelosi.
00:49:12.620 So why are we even talking about it?
00:49:15.840 And he said the network made a mask.
00:49:18.540 That's exactly what Holmes said, because it's only in service of the mission of holding on
00:49:24.000 to power.
00:49:24.360 She's like, so why even talk about it?
00:49:25.900 Yeah.
00:49:26.120 Why are we talking about anything?
00:49:27.160 Yeah.
00:49:27.500 But in questioning my methods, that's the thing is.
00:49:29.600 And she's not admitting she did it.
00:49:31.680 It's like a threat.
00:49:33.220 Like people who think she's still not calling the shots.
00:49:35.440 You think Hakeem Jeffries is calling the shot?
00:49:37.180 Yeah.
00:49:37.400 She's like, I just I just killed a president in front of everybody.
00:49:40.080 Yeah.
00:49:40.160 Why are we discussing if it was fair or honest or just?
00:49:44.920 Yeah.
00:49:45.280 You know, to the voters, they don't matter.
00:49:46.980 No.
00:49:47.540 All that matters is that Kamala's poll numbers went up.
00:49:50.120 Yeah.
00:49:51.080 It was truly like a you need me on that wall kind of moment.
00:49:55.280 Yes.
00:49:56.000 Yes.
00:49:56.280 Yes.
00:49:56.360 Colonel Jessup.
00:49:57.300 I do kind of respect it.
00:49:58.400 I respect it that she's brazen enough to say she did it for the children.
00:50:02.940 I just sort of out of left field.
00:50:05.580 But also, that's a wild thing to say.
00:50:06.680 Sometimes you got to take a punch for the children.
00:50:08.220 This sounds like a horrible situation.
00:50:09.560 Oh, who's trying to punch children?
00:50:12.900 Democrats.
00:50:13.940 And all the way through the ninth month.
00:50:17.500 All right.
00:50:18.480 Stand by.
00:50:20.460 We have much more to get to, including what appeared to be a reference to sexual gratification
00:50:27.540 by the CNN panel as they watched events unfold last night.
00:50:31.160 Stand by.
00:50:31.860 Ruthless stays with us.
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00:52:02.500 So continuing with our theme of how fake what we saw last night was,
00:52:12.140 I give you now, Jill Biden sought 10.
00:52:16.020 Weeks ago, when I saw him dig deep into his soul
00:52:21.900 and decide to no longer seek re-election
00:52:25.720 and endorse Kamala Harris.
00:52:35.500 He dug deep, guys.
00:52:37.300 That's how it went down.
00:52:38.860 Soul searched.
00:52:40.180 Also, whenever they made that transition from either when it was Joe speaking
00:52:44.620 and even when Joe was speaking over to Kamala,
00:52:47.480 didn't she seem small?
00:52:48.540 Like, you know, even among, like, the Nancy Pelosi's
00:52:52.460 and even the Maxine Waters,
00:52:54.340 it just comes off as Kamala's just, like, not even close
00:52:58.440 in terms of, like, the same level as these folks
00:53:00.860 who've had experience, won elections, you know?
00:53:04.180 It's like when they go back to her,
00:53:05.660 it just kept, at least to me,
00:53:07.620 it was a shock of, like,
00:53:09.340 this is really their presidential nominee.
00:53:11.820 Yeah, they were, like, walking this line
00:53:13.660 between passing the torch,
00:53:16.240 although that's bullshit in and of itself.
00:53:18.100 It had to be ripped from his hands.
00:53:19.420 He didn't want to pass the torch.
00:53:20.780 I mean, he did, like, two months
00:53:22.200 of insisting that he could still do the job
00:53:24.520 and that the polling said that he would win.
00:53:26.700 But it got to the point
00:53:29.240 that it was sort of patronizing of Kamala, you know?
00:53:33.180 Like, the best decision I made
00:53:35.540 in my whole political career
00:53:37.680 was this thing I telegraphed on day one
00:53:40.840 that I'd nominate a Black woman as vice president.
00:53:43.380 It just happened to be this woman.
00:53:44.600 That was my best decision my entire political career.
00:53:46.820 I mean, come on.
00:53:47.820 I mean, he's had a lot of really bad decisions.
00:53:50.680 So, to your point earlier about, like,
00:53:53.260 where are the real people, you know,
00:53:54.940 with their real stories,
00:53:56.340 what I saw of that last night
00:53:57.720 was the three women who have had abortions
00:54:00.640 who got up there to talk about abortion.
00:54:03.380 And I have nothing but empathy
00:54:06.200 for the third woman who talked about
00:54:08.100 how she was raped by her stepfather.
00:54:10.480 Her name is Hadley Duvall.
00:54:13.860 But where she took that horrific experience
00:54:17.060 in the conclusion,
00:54:18.840 like what her takeaway was on it politically,
00:54:21.560 was just dead wrong.
00:54:23.800 I mean, it was really wrong.
00:54:26.020 Here's what she said.
00:54:26.940 I can't imagine not having a choice.
00:54:32.840 But today, that's the reality
00:54:35.540 for many women and girls across the country
00:54:38.320 because of Donald Trump's abortion bans.
00:54:43.720 He calls it a beautiful thing.
00:54:46.260 What is so beautiful
00:54:50.440 about a child
00:54:52.460 having to carry
00:54:54.320 her parents' child?
00:54:59.260 You don't have to look very far
00:55:01.140 to hear Donald Trump's actual position
00:55:04.060 on abortion,
00:55:05.380 and in particular,
00:55:06.600 rape and incest exceptions.
00:55:08.040 Listen.
00:55:08.660 Yeah.
00:55:09.500 Like Ronald Reagan,
00:55:11.020 I believe in the exceptions.
00:55:12.660 I am a person that believes.
00:55:14.860 And frankly,
00:55:15.760 I think it's important
00:55:16.680 to believe in the exceptions.
00:55:17.780 Some people,
00:55:18.240 you have to follow your heart.
00:55:19.160 Some people don't believe in that.
00:55:20.680 But I believe in the exceptions
00:55:22.200 for rape, incest,
00:55:24.160 and the life of the mother.
00:55:25.880 I think it's very important.
00:55:27.360 Some people don't.
00:55:28.180 Follow your heart.
00:55:28.940 But you have to get elected also.
00:55:31.700 Now, guys,
00:55:32.920 that was not ancient history.
00:55:34.720 That was at the June debate
00:55:36.060 with Joe Biden.
00:55:36.960 Where are the 10,000 fact checks
00:55:39.740 of the misinformation
00:55:41.300 that was given out
00:55:43.000 from the DNC floor
00:55:44.760 last night
00:55:45.760 on an important piece
00:55:48.960 of this contest?
00:55:51.700 People have been debating abortion
00:55:53.100 at every debate,
00:55:53.920 at every appearance.
00:55:55.140 Where does Trump stand?
00:55:56.240 He's made perfectly clear
00:55:57.640 he's taken shit from the right
00:55:59.040 for saying what he said there.
00:56:01.880 And yet,
00:56:02.760 I'll wait for PolitiFact
00:56:05.440 and the others
00:56:06.300 to fact check,
00:56:07.800 yes,
00:56:08.120 a sympathetic person
00:56:09.520 who got up there
00:56:10.880 and said very false things
00:56:13.260 about Trump's position.
00:56:15.300 Yeah, I mean,
00:56:16.120 look,
00:56:16.380 it's the worst kind of lie
00:56:18.380 because it's wrapped up
00:56:19.720 in a horrific,
00:56:21.160 highly emotional story
00:56:22.660 that you can immediately
00:56:23.900 sort of sympathize with
00:56:26.240 and identify with
00:56:27.840 of a horrible choice
00:56:29.460 that this young woman
00:56:30.720 had to make.
00:56:31.300 But even in the setup
00:56:32.460 to ultimately
00:56:33.340 the big lie
00:56:34.860 that she had there,
00:56:36.160 she's calling it
00:56:36.760 Donald Trump's abortion ban.
00:56:38.620 Like,
00:56:39.180 look,
00:56:39.700 I understand that
00:56:40.500 a convention
00:56:41.480 is not the place
00:56:42.380 for nuance
00:56:42.980 or that kind of thing.
00:56:44.700 But I mean,
00:56:45.140 we're talking about
00:56:45.800 a Supreme Court decision
00:56:46.760 that was decided
00:56:48.180 and threw these things
00:56:49.500 back to a bunch of states
00:56:50.700 of whom you elect
00:56:52.480 your representatives
00:56:53.180 and then they make
00:56:54.160 the policy.
00:56:55.140 The idea
00:56:55.680 that Donald Trump
00:56:56.920 is somehow presiding
00:56:57.980 over abortion bans
00:56:59.180 is entirely ridiculous
00:57:00.840 even before
00:57:01.840 you get to the point
00:57:03.060 where his stated position
00:57:04.740 since the time
00:57:05.460 he came down
00:57:06.040 the golden escalator
00:57:07.180 was exceptions
00:57:08.660 for rape,
00:57:09.840 incest,
00:57:10.260 or life and health
00:57:11.740 of the mother.
00:57:12.640 But there are no fact checks
00:57:13.740 because the media
00:57:14.460 is on their side.
00:57:15.600 I mean,
00:57:15.760 we say it over and over
00:57:16.820 and over again,
00:57:17.500 but it's true.
00:57:18.300 Like,
00:57:18.520 we talked about this
00:57:19.400 Tim Walls IVF thing.
00:57:21.120 In the New York Times story
00:57:22.880 about the Tim Walls IVF lie,
00:57:25.540 they write,
00:57:27.260 Tim,
00:57:27.560 people assumed
00:57:28.980 that Tim Walls
00:57:30.360 had a baby through IVF.
00:57:32.140 They didn't write,
00:57:34.020 like,
00:57:34.660 why they assumed it.
00:57:36.460 Tim Walls told people
00:57:37.600 he had a baby through IVF.
00:57:38.860 They had a baby through IVF.
00:57:40.260 They don't fact check.
00:57:43.160 Like,
00:57:43.720 then the coach thing.
00:57:45.040 Politico wrote a profile
00:57:46.960 with artwork
00:57:48.180 with, like,
00:57:49.380 X's and O's
00:57:50.500 and plays
00:57:51.280 making him look like
00:57:53.200 he was Eddie Robinson.
00:57:54.360 The coach thing
00:57:55.180 really riles up Ashbrook.
00:57:57.120 He just really,
00:57:57.720 he just,
00:57:58.260 like,
00:57:59.120 the little lies
00:58:00.300 he tells
00:58:00.920 over and over again
00:58:02.100 that are, like,
00:58:03.480 boosted by the media
00:58:04.980 rather than, like,
00:58:06.080 checked and beat down.
00:58:07.040 And I think there's a reason
00:58:07.800 for that.
00:58:08.280 It's more stolen valor.
00:58:09.680 Yeah.
00:58:10.400 It's like Duncan said
00:58:11.840 of they're trying to run
00:58:13.200 against Donald Trump
00:58:14.460 and not the horrors
00:58:15.700 of living under
00:58:16.520 the Biden-Harris administration.
00:58:18.920 So when they say
00:58:19.640 that it's a Trump ban,
00:58:20.640 they want you to think that,
00:58:22.040 wow,
00:58:22.320 these past four years
00:58:23.120 have sucked.
00:58:23.640 I guess it must have been
00:58:24.960 because of Trump
00:58:25.840 somehow.
00:58:27.260 And they have to lie about it
00:58:28.920 because are they going to be able
00:58:30.140 to have a convention
00:58:31.000 where they're like,
00:58:31.980 let's celebrate
00:58:32.920 the price of groceries
00:58:34.160 going up 50 percent.
00:58:35.680 You're not getting rounds
00:58:36.400 of applause with that.
00:58:38.800 Kamala herself
00:58:39.700 is trying to act
00:58:40.460 like she wasn't a part
00:58:41.460 of that,
00:58:41.800 saying that, like,
00:58:42.540 groceries have gone up
00:58:43.680 by 50 percent.
00:58:44.460 Well,
00:58:44.940 what are you going to do
00:58:46.340 about it
00:58:46.620 when you were already
00:58:47.260 there causing it?
00:58:48.240 You need another
00:58:48.860 Green New Deal to say that.
00:58:50.020 She's going to use the FTC
00:58:51.200 to write to write
00:58:52.480 these very wrong
00:58:53.400 grocery prices.
00:58:54.300 You control them
00:58:55.060 right now.
00:58:55.800 Right now.
00:58:57.080 Like you're in the office.
00:58:58.820 That's actually something.
00:58:59.520 If that's your solution,
00:59:00.640 why don't you just go
00:59:01.520 get that done?
00:59:02.220 But she doesn't.
00:59:03.020 And she's banking
00:59:03.680 on people not
00:59:04.280 knowing any of that.
00:59:05.300 One of the most
00:59:08.280 outrageous moments
00:59:09.020 last night.
00:59:10.440 Truly one of the most.
00:59:11.340 I mean,
00:59:11.700 because they're joyful.
00:59:12.600 They're joyful.
00:59:13.380 They're a party
00:59:13.780 of uplift.
00:59:15.240 And on the eve
00:59:16.520 of Bill Clinton
00:59:18.360 coming to the stage,
00:59:20.560 because he comes
00:59:21.320 not tonight,
00:59:22.080 but tomorrow.
00:59:22.500 So I guess two eves away.
00:59:24.080 They have the nerve
00:59:25.420 to run like an ad
00:59:28.120 about law and order.
00:59:29.760 I referenced it
00:59:30.540 in the intro.
00:59:31.480 And they borrow
00:59:32.380 a little bit
00:59:33.000 from the Dick Wolf show.
00:59:34.380 And here is a bit
00:59:36.620 of what they played.
00:59:39.540 In the criminal
00:59:40.540 justice system,
00:59:41.820 the people are represented
00:59:42.900 by two separate
00:59:43.760 yet equally important groups.
00:59:45.780 The police
00:59:46.400 who investigate crime
00:59:47.560 and the district attorneys
00:59:49.180 who prosecute
00:59:49.960 the offenders.
00:59:51.220 This is the story
00:59:52.120 of Donald Trump.
00:59:54.600 His entire life,
00:59:56.220 Trump has believed
00:59:56.960 he's above the law,
00:59:58.580 that no one would ever
00:59:59.500 dare hold him accountable.
01:00:01.340 He lies.
01:00:02.340 He rips off workers.
01:00:03.300 He sexually abuses women.
01:00:05.360 Hey, when you're a star,
01:00:06.140 they let you do it.
01:00:07.180 You can do anything.
01:00:08.820 He cheats in business.
01:00:10.900 He cheated on his wife
01:00:11.980 with a porn star
01:00:13.020 and paid her off
01:00:14.460 so the American people
01:00:15.540 wouldn't find out
01:00:16.460 during an election.
01:00:18.760 But in the criminal
01:00:19.740 justice system,
01:00:21.080 ordinary Americans
01:00:22.000 have had the courage
01:00:22.980 to find him accountable
01:00:24.080 time and time again.
01:00:26.240 Guilty.
01:00:26.760 Guilty.
01:00:27.540 Guilty.
01:00:27.980 Donald Trump guilty
01:00:29.360 on all 34 felony counts.
01:00:32.000 For the first time
01:00:32.720 in history,
01:00:33.580 we have a convicted felon
01:00:35.140 running for president.
01:00:36.520 And to take on this case,
01:00:38.540 we need a president
01:00:40.020 who has spent her life
01:00:41.260 prosecuting perpetrators
01:00:42.660 like Donald Trump.
01:00:45.480 Mm-hmm.
01:00:47.720 Amen.
01:00:48.480 I don't know where to begin,
01:00:49.460 but let's just start
01:00:50.440 with cheated on his wife.
01:00:52.920 Her husband,
01:00:54.440 Kamala Harris's
01:00:55.740 own husband,
01:00:57.520 the man who she wants us
01:00:58.640 to make first gentleman,
01:01:00.680 cheated on his first wife
01:01:02.580 with the nanny,
01:01:04.060 which honestly is worse
01:01:05.640 than with a porn star.
01:01:07.040 With the nanny
01:01:08.000 whom he impregnated.
01:01:10.400 He did not deny this report
01:01:12.380 when it was brought to him.
01:01:14.020 Nobody knows what happened
01:01:14.880 to the baby.
01:01:15.640 Was the baby aborted?
01:01:17.140 Is there a love child
01:01:18.000 that Doug Emhoff
01:01:19.360 has with this woman?
01:01:20.740 We don't know
01:01:21.380 because the media
01:01:22.140 won't follow up on this.
01:01:23.580 I didn't see that
01:01:24.300 in her video last night.
01:01:25.740 Not to mention
01:01:26.780 the Bill Clinton problems.
01:01:28.860 Donald Trump
01:01:29.620 is a predator.
01:01:31.400 Bill Clinton's
01:01:32.880 predatory behavior
01:01:34.460 puts every politicians
01:01:36.860 to shame.
01:01:38.640 He's the OG
01:01:39.640 sexual predator.
01:01:41.360 And he'll be taking
01:01:42.340 the stage
01:01:42.960 on Wednesday night
01:01:43.920 with her blessing.
01:01:45.820 She'll be sitting
01:01:46.420 in the audience
01:01:47.060 applauding the man
01:01:48.640 who was accused
01:01:50.020 of raping
01:01:50.960 Juanita Broderick,
01:01:52.700 of sexually assaulting
01:01:54.740 Kathleen Willey
01:01:55.840 and Paula Jones
01:01:57.540 and I could keep going.
01:01:59.620 But you see,
01:02:00.280 we're supposed to
01:02:01.000 memory hole
01:02:01.560 all of that
01:02:02.580 because he's Bill Clinton.
01:02:05.520 Yeah.
01:02:06.540 Yeah, it's sadistic.
01:02:08.160 Also, you know,
01:02:09.340 the whole premise
01:02:10.080 of her being
01:02:10.840 tough on crime
01:02:11.880 is just a laughable proposition.
01:02:13.900 I saw an ad,
01:02:14.820 I think it was
01:02:15.340 MAGA Inc.
01:02:16.420 or something
01:02:16.840 that had a relative
01:02:17.540 of somebody
01:02:18.200 who was killed
01:02:19.000 by a recidivist
01:02:20.040 that she let out
01:02:20.660 of prison
01:02:21.080 in California.
01:02:22.640 We all remember,
01:02:23.680 obviously,
01:02:24.100 the bail fund
01:02:24.820 in Minneapolis
01:02:25.420 that let a whole bunch
01:02:26.360 of criminals
01:02:26.820 out of jail
01:02:28.080 after trashing
01:02:28.920 the city of Minneapolis
01:02:29.980 and the rate
01:02:30.880 of recidivism
01:02:31.700 and violent crime
01:02:33.240 amongst a few of them
01:02:34.400 was astronomical,
01:02:35.920 unthinkable
01:02:36.600 with somebody
01:02:37.940 who tries
01:02:39.120 to fashion
01:02:39.660 themselves
01:02:40.160 as tough
01:02:41.080 on crime.
01:02:41.740 They just don't have
01:02:43.060 and the reason
01:02:43.500 that they switched
01:02:44.240 to the Trump thing
01:02:45.100 and we said this
01:02:45.560 from the very beginning
01:02:46.280 of why they wanted
01:02:47.540 Donald Trump
01:02:48.180 is because their
01:02:48.720 whole game plan
01:02:49.480 before they knew
01:02:50.560 that they had
01:02:50.980 to trash Joe Biden
01:02:52.800 was if they could
01:02:55.020 convict him
01:02:55.620 in a court of law
01:02:56.600 and just put a ceiling
01:02:58.320 on his vote
01:02:59.720 at like 48%
01:03:00.960 in the states
01:03:01.480 that matter
01:03:02.060 with the rhetoric
01:03:03.160 that this is a convicted felon
01:03:04.480 over and over and over again,
01:03:05.560 they would never actually
01:03:06.240 have to talk about
01:03:07.020 what it is
01:03:07.420 that they've done
01:03:07.860 to this country
01:03:08.520 and now that they've gone
01:03:10.120 through this six-week period
01:03:11.460 of their own struggles
01:03:12.920 but threw Joe Biden
01:03:14.160 overboard,
01:03:14.820 they're back
01:03:15.260 to the game plan
01:03:16.100 and that little video
01:03:18.400 I think is the best
01:03:19.640 representation
01:03:20.220 of the original strategy
01:03:22.420 that Democrats
01:03:23.320 were taking
01:03:23.800 into 2024
01:03:24.620 that was on hiatus
01:03:26.560 over the summer
01:03:27.540 but they're now
01:03:28.400 back in action
01:03:29.320 and they think
01:03:29.800 they've got a winner with it.
01:03:30.800 It does absolutely nothing
01:03:32.800 to convince
01:03:33.680 a single persuadable
01:03:35.140 voter in this country.
01:03:36.360 Like that's catnip
01:03:37.180 for the base
01:03:37.980 and the people
01:03:38.360 who are sitting there
01:03:39.000 at that Democratic convention
01:03:40.220 but if you listen
01:03:41.380 to what actual
01:03:42.060 persuadable voters
01:03:43.100 or these double haters
01:03:44.180 want to hear,
01:03:46.280 they want to hear
01:03:46.880 from Kamala
01:03:47.440 what she actually
01:03:48.080 plans to do.
01:03:48.900 They want to hear
01:03:49.380 policy positions
01:03:50.280 and a vision
01:03:51.060 for the future
01:03:51.580 of the country.
01:03:52.660 This whole idea
01:03:53.640 of her being a prosecutor
01:03:55.300 who's going to take it
01:03:56.020 to Donald Trump
01:03:56.700 does not motivate
01:03:57.640 a single one
01:03:58.160 of those people
01:03:58.680 to vote for her.
01:03:59.380 Well, it's belied
01:03:59.980 by the fact
01:04:00.480 that she was never
01:04:01.840 tough on her.
01:04:02.520 And it's also,
01:04:03.620 it also,
01:04:04.940 yeah,
01:04:05.400 I mean,
01:04:06.140 people have just,
01:04:06.800 they have such cynicism
01:04:08.020 and such a low regard
01:04:09.220 for the media
01:04:09.880 and politicians
01:04:10.600 at this point,
01:04:11.440 you know,
01:04:11.680 back to from Russiagate
01:04:13.360 to COVID,
01:04:14.800 we got a mass toddlers
01:04:15.800 but if you're going
01:04:16.380 to burn down cities
01:04:17.380 with BLM,
01:04:18.040 you don't have
01:04:18.380 to wear a mask.
01:04:19.500 You know,
01:04:19.720 stuff like that.
01:04:20.700 Like people are just
01:04:21.500 so cynical
01:04:22.000 to the point
01:04:22.580 where like,
01:04:23.700 they don't care.
01:04:24.820 They do not care
01:04:25.980 that Donald Trump
01:04:26.620 was convicted
01:04:27.200 of these felonies
01:04:28.080 in New York.
01:04:28.820 They see right
01:04:29.400 through that thing.
01:04:30.100 So you're going
01:04:30.360 to have to give them
01:04:30.900 more than this contrived
01:04:32.280 notion you're the
01:04:33.000 tough on crime prosecutor.
01:04:34.780 Yeah.
01:04:35.300 It makes you wonder.
01:04:36.320 Can I tell you,
01:04:36.560 like some of the stuff
01:04:37.600 they're saying about him,
01:04:38.460 he could actually sue for.
01:04:39.560 It's impossible
01:04:40.040 to sue as a public figure
01:04:42.020 for defamation.
01:04:43.320 But some of the stuff,
01:04:44.160 including the lie
01:04:46.180 about there are fine people
01:04:47.840 on both sides.
01:04:48.920 I mean,
01:04:49.120 honestly,
01:04:49.520 that is so untrue.
01:04:50.420 It's been proven untrue.
01:04:51.220 Just roll the tape
01:04:52.240 of what he actually said.
01:04:53.860 You actually could recover
01:04:54.980 in a court of law
01:04:56.660 potentially
01:04:57.020 for something like that.
01:04:58.540 And that wasn't it.
01:05:00.180 I mean,
01:05:00.360 of course,
01:05:00.800 the whole night
01:05:01.220 was spent Trump bashing.
01:05:02.600 Somebody did a rundown
01:05:03.400 where it was like
01:05:03.980 the number of,
01:05:05.140 I might have screen grabbed it.
01:05:06.340 This is how I prepare
01:05:07.040 for the show.
01:05:07.540 I see interesting things
01:05:08.320 and I screen grab them
01:05:09.040 and come back to them.
01:05:10.040 But in any event,
01:05:10.840 it was something like
01:05:11.440 the number of
01:05:12.720 the references
01:05:15.000 of illegal immigration
01:05:16.100 and the number of references
01:05:17.360 of health care and so on.
01:05:18.480 And they were just down
01:05:19.200 to like the tiny numbers.
01:05:20.560 Here it is.
01:05:20.880 Border eight times.
01:05:21.700 Crime six times.
01:05:22.940 Inflation three times.
01:05:24.920 Trump 147 times.
01:05:27.400 Yeah.
01:05:28.120 That's the game plan.
01:05:29.380 That's the game plan.
01:05:30.440 They just don't.
01:05:31.300 They always thought
01:05:32.560 that they could prosecute
01:05:33.580 this this case
01:05:34.740 against Donald Trump
01:05:36.080 by never talking
01:05:37.120 about themselves.
01:05:37.760 And they are back
01:05:38.440 on track on that
01:05:39.280 for what they think.
01:05:40.040 And the media is certainly
01:05:40.700 not going to hold
01:05:41.800 them accountable.
01:05:42.900 But I think Duncan's
01:05:43.800 probably right in that
01:05:44.880 when we get into
01:05:45.440 the thrucks of this
01:05:46.240 in a post Labor Day
01:05:47.120 environment,
01:05:47.580 you continue to have
01:05:48.700 bad economic news.
01:05:50.920 Nothing is particularly
01:05:52.120 optimistic and good
01:05:54.020 about the tenure
01:05:54.660 of this administration.
01:05:55.940 People are going to want
01:05:56.720 some answers
01:05:57.180 at some level.
01:05:58.060 You know,
01:05:58.360 it's not just going
01:05:59.020 to be an emotional
01:05:59.920 well, this person's
01:06:01.660 different than
01:06:02.460 the last person
01:06:03.380 type choice.
01:06:04.760 But it does get them
01:06:05.780 very, very close.
01:06:07.000 And I think
01:06:07.980 Republicans would
01:06:09.500 be making a grave
01:06:11.440 mistake if they think
01:06:12.840 that there isn't
01:06:14.180 some persuasion
01:06:15.160 power here
01:06:16.000 in at least
01:06:16.840 reconsolidating
01:06:18.160 a Democratic base.
01:06:19.220 Because I think
01:06:19.740 one of the things
01:06:20.200 I was going to say
01:06:20.900 is it's becoming
01:06:22.440 clear that Democrats
01:06:23.780 view this as a
01:06:24.520 base turnout election.
01:06:26.080 They do not think
01:06:28.000 that they have
01:06:28.740 the power of persuasion
01:06:29.980 on their side.
01:06:31.340 And they're right
01:06:31.740 about that.
01:06:32.380 Yep.
01:06:32.800 So the question is
01:06:33.620 whether or not
01:06:34.260 and that's why
01:06:34.900 they ultimately
01:06:35.360 kicked Joe Biden
01:06:36.080 off this ticket
01:06:36.720 because he had
01:06:37.220 a Hamas problem
01:06:38.080 and she doesn't
01:06:38.840 and an elderly
01:06:40.520 problem and she doesn't.
01:06:42.240 It had nothing to do
01:06:42.840 with the policies
01:06:43.440 that are different
01:06:43.920 because there is
01:06:44.340 no difference.
01:06:45.480 Right.
01:06:45.780 It's just the presentation.
01:06:47.380 And if you can
01:06:48.000 reconsolidate
01:06:49.060 that Democratic base
01:06:50.620 to try to turn out
01:06:51.620 in numbers of people
01:06:52.820 who just hate
01:06:53.720 Donald Trump,
01:06:54.840 that's the only
01:06:55.420 qualification for this group.
01:06:56.940 So if you just
01:06:57.700 hate Donald Trump,
01:06:59.340 yeah,
01:06:59.740 they poured fuel
01:07:00.740 onto that fire
01:07:01.340 multiple times
01:07:02.100 last night.
01:07:02.540 I believe that you
01:07:03.140 that one ad
01:07:03.840 and Dark Brandon
01:07:04.800 returned.
01:07:05.880 And here's
01:07:06.520 Raphael Warnock,
01:07:07.920 one of their
01:07:08.520 rising stars,
01:07:09.860 senator from the
01:07:11.400 state of Georgia,
01:07:12.460 U.S. senator,
01:07:13.500 weighing in.
01:07:15.400 Watch.
01:07:16.680 America,
01:07:17.420 make no mistake.
01:07:18.940 Donald Trump
01:07:19.780 is a plague
01:07:21.340 on the American
01:07:22.520 conscience.
01:07:23.400 He is a press.
01:07:32.840 He is a
01:07:33.540 clear and present
01:07:35.220 threat.
01:07:37.120 Okay.
01:07:38.640 It was
01:07:39.460 two days ago,
01:07:42.680 three days at most,
01:07:43.660 that I watched
01:07:44.200 a CNN panel
01:07:45.260 melt down
01:07:46.600 because
01:07:47.620 one of the panelists,
01:07:49.820 Nancy Mace,
01:07:50.480 mispronounced
01:07:51.820 Kamala.
01:07:53.180 Watch.
01:07:54.320 When you
01:07:55.020 disrespect Kamala
01:07:56.140 Harris by saying
01:07:56.800 you will call her
01:07:57.360 whatever you want,
01:07:58.320 I know you don't
01:07:58.920 intend it to be
01:07:59.540 that way.
01:08:00.220 That's the history
01:08:00.900 and legacy of
01:08:01.620 white disregard
01:08:02.220 for the humanity
01:08:02.980 of black people.
01:08:03.660 So now you're
01:08:04.040 calling me racist.
01:08:04.620 I didn't say it.
01:08:05.180 I said it.
01:08:05.780 Come on.
01:08:06.380 That is complete
01:08:07.260 yes.
01:08:07.380 You don't have to
01:08:07.960 intend racism
01:08:08.700 to accomplish
01:08:09.660 your name right.
01:08:10.240 And Kamala Harris,
01:08:11.700 if I want
01:08:12.440 a man,
01:08:13.600 I will say
01:08:14.580 everything I want.
01:08:16.100 It's Kamala.
01:08:17.160 You're doing
01:08:17.620 a self-respect
01:08:18.360 this Congress.
01:08:18.840 I am not.
01:08:19.320 Disrespectful.
01:08:19.840 Just a second.
01:08:21.320 They don't like
01:08:22.380 the disrespect,
01:08:23.260 guys.
01:08:24.060 It's not okay
01:08:24.980 to disrespect.
01:08:26.380 The funniest thing
01:08:27.120 is they all learned
01:08:27.700 how to pronounce
01:08:28.220 her name a month ago.
01:08:29.660 You know?
01:08:30.160 And first of all,
01:08:31.140 her name is Sanskrit.
01:08:32.640 Kamala is a
01:08:33.520 Sanskrit name.
01:08:34.620 You know?
01:08:35.060 And they're trying
01:08:35.520 to make it this
01:08:36.020 attack on a black woman.
01:08:37.460 Sorry, it's just
01:08:38.000 sort of hard to pronounce.
01:08:39.160 Like, nobody's
01:08:39.840 doing it on purpose.
01:08:40.760 We're all trying our best.
01:08:41.820 Even if she was
01:08:42.700 doing it on purpose,
01:08:43.660 who cares?
01:08:44.840 You're calling him
01:08:45.800 a sexual predator.
01:08:48.060 You've got
01:08:48.580 Raphael Warnock
01:08:49.460 saying he's a clear
01:08:50.300 and present threat
01:08:51.480 that he's a plague.
01:08:53.120 You've got Joe Biden
01:08:54.340 who just spoke out
01:08:55.200 a couple days ago
01:08:55.980 calling him Donald Dump.
01:08:58.020 F you
01:08:58.940 and your phony
01:09:00.180 indignation
01:09:01.620 over calling her
01:09:03.060 Kamala
01:09:04.060 instead of Kamala.
01:09:05.580 This is so fake.
01:09:08.120 Who would have guessed
01:09:08.940 that Mace would have
01:09:09.620 had a tough shake
01:09:10.740 on that panel?
01:09:12.220 I questioned the booking.
01:09:14.260 That did not seem
01:09:15.380 like it was going to go well
01:09:16.460 from the jump.
01:09:17.280 And again,
01:09:17.680 it was what?
01:09:18.240 They gave 48 hours
01:09:19.600 after one of their folks
01:09:21.120 tried to kill Donald Trump
01:09:22.200 to being back to like,
01:09:23.660 he is a clear
01:09:24.480 and present threat
01:09:25.580 to America.
01:09:26.320 Yeah, great points.
01:09:28.200 Hitler.
01:09:29.100 Hitler.
01:09:29.740 Right?
01:09:30.300 We're back to Hitler.
01:09:31.380 By the way,
01:09:32.180 how about the fact
01:09:33.000 that that thing's been
01:09:34.300 completely erased
01:09:35.200 out of the memory?
01:09:36.960 It's out of the news.
01:09:38.380 Like, didn't happen.
01:09:39.540 The assassination
01:09:40.280 attempt on Trump,
01:09:41.380 it's truly as if
01:09:42.680 it was a nothing
01:09:43.500 in the news cycle
01:09:44.820 when the media,
01:09:46.380 it's like the line
01:09:47.140 from Mommy Dearest,
01:09:48.180 if she doesn't like you,
01:09:49.360 she can make you disappear.
01:09:50.940 That's what happened.
01:09:51.560 It is.
01:09:54.960 It is.
01:09:56.080 Sad state of affairs
01:09:57.080 we have ourselves in here.
01:09:58.280 Well, there's a reason
01:09:58.880 for that, right?
01:09:59.500 I mean, it's like
01:09:59.960 he looked heroic,
01:10:00.660 he looked sympathetic,
01:10:01.840 that it would require them
01:10:03.060 to tone down their rhetoric
01:10:04.120 and they're not okay
01:10:05.280 with any one
01:10:06.620 of those messages,
01:10:08.120 any one of those things.
01:10:08.980 Meantime, you've got Trump
01:10:09.920 who, he says this
01:10:11.620 and the media freaks out
01:10:12.760 like, oh my God,
01:10:13.940 he won't change,
01:10:14.680 he's terrible.
01:10:15.280 And I'm listening to him
01:10:16.220 having heard all this other stuff
01:10:17.540 thinking, yes,
01:10:18.480 I totally understand.
01:10:20.140 Listen to Sot 31,
01:10:22.400 this is Trump
01:10:22.900 at Bedminster.
01:10:23.580 All I want to do
01:10:24.040 is have strong borders
01:10:25.200 and good education.
01:10:26.960 We want to have choice
01:10:27.880 for education.
01:10:29.000 So important,
01:10:29.460 so many different things
01:10:30.420 you would think
01:10:31.320 it would be the other way.
01:10:32.120 We rebuilt the military,
01:10:33.500 we did so many great things.
01:10:34.900 People don't know
01:10:35.800 who she is.
01:10:37.180 As far as the personal attacks,
01:10:39.140 I'm very angry at her
01:10:40.480 that she'd weaponized
01:10:41.480 the justice system
01:10:42.420 against me
01:10:43.020 and other people.
01:10:43.960 Very angry at her.
01:10:45.480 I think I'm entitled
01:10:46.540 to personal attacks.
01:10:49.980 Where's he wrong?
01:10:51.980 He's not wrong.
01:10:53.200 And you know,
01:10:53.440 that's the thing is
01:10:54.000 when you'd mention that
01:10:54.860 it's actionable legally,
01:10:56.260 the things that have been said
01:10:57.740 about him that,
01:10:58.780 you know,
01:10:58.920 these lies that defame him,
01:11:01.100 like both people,
01:11:01.920 find people on both sides
01:11:02.820 kind of thing.
01:11:03.520 The one problem is
01:11:04.760 good luck finding
01:11:06.100 a fair court
01:11:07.520 for Donald Trump.
01:11:09.020 I mean,
01:11:09.280 that is the issue.
01:11:10.100 The reason that
01:11:10.740 in New York City,
01:11:11.920 you can find
01:11:13.120 these trumped up charges,
01:11:14.680 turn them into felonies
01:11:15.980 where the feds
01:11:16.780 wouldn't want to
01:11:17.480 go after them
01:11:18.360 because there was
01:11:18.840 no merit to it.
01:11:20.100 But they can make
01:11:21.240 a person guilty
01:11:22.240 of 40 felonies
01:11:23.420 because politically
01:11:24.420 they don't like him.
01:11:26.080 Good luck finding a court
01:11:27.160 that's going to let you do
01:11:28.340 what is legal.
01:11:30.340 Yeah.
01:11:30.640 He might be getting
01:11:31.640 sentenced to jail,
01:11:32.480 you guys,
01:11:32.900 in a matter of weeks.
01:11:34.400 September 18th
01:11:35.080 is the sentencing day
01:11:35.860 in front of Judge Mershon.
01:11:37.100 Andy McCarthy
01:11:37.640 is convinced
01:11:38.760 he's going to get
01:11:39.380 sentenced to jail
01:11:40.180 with a suspended sentence,
01:11:41.380 meaning he won't have to
01:11:42.140 go right off to jail.
01:11:43.580 He'll be given the chance
01:11:44.300 to appeal,
01:11:44.820 but the lawfare
01:11:46.020 is not done
01:11:46.680 and this is like
01:11:48.040 the crowning moment,
01:11:48.880 right?
01:11:49.080 Like this is what they,
01:11:50.200 this is what they came for.
01:11:51.620 Like get a convicted felon
01:11:54.100 who has been sentenced
01:11:56.400 to jail.
01:11:57.660 How are you going to
01:11:58.440 elect him
01:11:59.100 to the presidency?
01:12:00.200 But if you can say
01:12:02.000 Kamala instead of Kamala
01:12:03.700 or whatever it is,
01:12:04.700 you're disgusting.
01:12:07.540 You know,
01:12:08.380 maybe it's a silver lining.
01:12:10.120 Donald Trump's poll numbers
01:12:11.140 were at their best
01:12:11.920 when he was on trial
01:12:12.880 in New York.
01:12:14.300 I think if they take
01:12:15.900 the brazen step
01:12:16.720 of trying to sentence him
01:12:17.680 to prison of any kind,
01:12:19.300 they're going to be
01:12:19.900 sorely, sorely mistaken
01:12:21.960 on what the ramifications
01:12:23.500 are of that.
01:12:24.540 I think they're going
01:12:24.980 to be a huge,
01:12:25.660 the kind of stuff
01:12:26.240 that we saw back in April
01:12:27.100 when he was convicted
01:12:27.740 in the first place
01:12:28.440 and all of a sudden
01:12:28.980 there's a three,
01:12:29.560 four point jump
01:12:30.320 in his ballot question.
01:12:31.580 Well, Holmes,
01:12:32.100 can you explain that?
01:12:33.160 Can you explain that?
01:12:33.880 Because I think
01:12:34.480 the base for sure
01:12:35.280 will be more animated
01:12:36.400 than ever.
01:12:37.340 Well, maybe not than ever
01:12:38.420 because I,
01:12:38.880 I mean,
01:12:39.140 after the assassination attempt,
01:12:40.780 but the numbers,
01:12:41.820 how could they get higher?
01:12:42.600 It wasn't just,
01:12:43.140 but what about
01:12:43.900 those independents?
01:12:44.760 How would that motivate
01:12:45.880 the independents he needs?
01:12:47.700 Yeah, I mean,
01:12:48.020 what we saw in the spring
01:12:49.520 was it went well
01:12:50.300 beyond the base.
01:12:51.060 In fact,
01:12:51.320 there's never really
01:12:51.940 been a base problem
01:12:52.760 for Donald Trump.
01:12:53.560 He's always had
01:12:54.040 a codlock on that.
01:12:55.740 What we saw happen
01:12:56.960 in April
01:12:57.840 is constituencies
01:12:58.920 that have been harder
01:12:59.480 for him to reach
01:13:00.420 sort of in the center left,
01:13:01.580 center right
01:13:02.060 of the electorate,
01:13:03.600 predominantly women,
01:13:05.280 thought this guy
01:13:05.920 was getting railroaded
01:13:06.960 and they couldn't believe
01:13:08.200 that in this country
01:13:08.980 you had a political opponent,
01:13:10.100 which was going
01:13:10.920 to be the Republican nominee
01:13:11.980 for president
01:13:12.660 of the United States
01:13:13.360 being prosecuted
01:13:14.560 not only by
01:13:15.340 the administration
01:13:16.160 that was an incumbent,
01:13:18.160 but also states
01:13:19.260 that ran entirely
01:13:20.580 on a platform
01:13:21.940 of putting this guy
01:13:22.740 in jail.
01:13:23.240 I mean,
01:13:23.380 that is the antithesis
01:13:24.940 of what this country
01:13:25.900 was actually founded on.
01:13:27.720 And when it was right
01:13:28.300 in the face
01:13:28.720 of the American people,
01:13:29.620 there was a pretty clear choice.
01:13:31.020 It was,
01:13:31.280 I mean,
01:13:31.420 he was running dead even
01:13:32.620 with women.
01:13:34.120 He was ahead
01:13:34.920 with independence.
01:13:35.820 Now we've seen
01:13:36.400 all that recede
01:13:37.180 over the summer
01:13:37.700 and all the events
01:13:38.480 and chaos
01:13:39.460 that we've had
01:13:40.040 from a debate
01:13:40.640 and assassination attempt
01:13:41.740 and everything else.
01:13:43.040 But I think
01:13:44.000 if they go back
01:13:44.580 down that road
01:13:45.160 in September,
01:13:46.360 you could see
01:13:46.940 a recreation
01:13:47.480 of that environment.
01:13:48.160 I mean,
01:13:48.300 because outside
01:13:48.960 of the assassination attempt,
01:13:50.460 which obviously
01:13:51.320 was a great high watermark
01:13:52.880 for Donald Trump
01:13:53.520 and his approval numbers
01:13:54.580 jumped and everything,
01:13:55.640 like trying to put him
01:13:56.980 in prison
01:13:57.360 is the only way
01:13:58.080 you can make
01:13:58.700 Donald Trump sympathetic
01:14:00.100 to those cohorts
01:14:01.760 of the electorate
01:14:02.460 who otherwise
01:14:03.220 don't really like the guy
01:14:04.580 because that system,
01:14:06.380 the system
01:14:07.200 that would put him
01:14:08.400 in prison
01:14:08.900 is a system
01:14:09.460 they also don't trust.
01:14:11.100 Right?
01:14:11.620 And so they find it,
01:14:13.040 they find that suddenly
01:14:13.960 they're on the side
01:14:15.240 of Donald Trump,
01:14:15.920 a person who they would
01:14:16.760 otherwise never vote for.
01:14:18.320 Totally right.
01:14:18.860 And if this is,
01:14:19.580 if this really is a base
01:14:20.740 motivation style election
01:14:23.040 where Democrats
01:14:24.160 are betting
01:14:24.800 that they have to turn out
01:14:25.960 their whole base,
01:14:27.240 what do you think
01:14:27.860 happens to our base
01:14:28.960 if they try to do that
01:14:30.780 to Trump
01:14:31.240 on the eve of the election?
01:14:32.740 I mean,
01:14:33.200 every single person
01:14:34.860 is going to come out
01:14:35.620 to vote on our side.
01:14:36.740 Yeah,
01:14:36.920 no question.
01:14:38.480 Well,
01:14:38.860 I mean,
01:14:39.360 I think it may happen.
01:14:40.800 Andy's smart.
01:14:41.560 I've all along
01:14:42.220 been thinking
01:14:42.640 he wouldn't get a jail term,
01:14:43.920 but Andy's point
01:14:45.300 is that the way
01:14:46.400 they tried this case
01:14:47.480 is not just
01:14:49.220 a business records case.
01:14:50.500 They tried it as
01:14:51.540 he tried to steal
01:14:53.360 an election,
01:14:54.320 you know,
01:14:55.100 by paying off this woman.
01:14:56.800 We had our,
01:14:57.640 he had an obligation
01:14:59.040 to let us hear
01:15:00.160 what Stormy Daniels
01:15:01.240 had to say
01:15:01.980 and his unwillingness
01:15:04.000 to allow that
01:15:04.860 was a theft
01:15:05.900 of Hillary Clinton's
01:15:07.500 rightful victory
01:15:08.340 and thus,
01:15:09.800 if that's what
01:15:10.520 he's been convicted of
01:15:11.880 in the eyes
01:15:12.980 of these prosecutors
01:15:13.640 and this jury
01:15:14.880 and this judge,
01:15:16.120 then why wouldn't
01:15:17.220 he be sentenced
01:15:17.860 to jail?
01:15:18.420 That's a very serious
01:15:19.260 offense to actually
01:15:20.400 steal an election.
01:15:22.860 And so,
01:15:23.440 like,
01:15:24.100 September 18th
01:15:25.220 is an important date
01:15:26.220 to circle on your calendar.
01:15:27.460 It's going to be
01:15:27.940 a very,
01:15:28.400 very big news date
01:15:29.380 and they scheduled
01:15:31.400 the hearing
01:15:32.340 on whether
01:15:32.840 the Supreme Court's
01:15:33.940 immunity decision
01:15:35.060 will vitiate
01:15:36.520 the need for sentencing,
01:15:37.820 right?
01:15:37.980 Does it save Trump
01:15:38.840 for two days
01:15:40.360 in advance?
01:15:41.800 It's either the hearing
01:15:42.460 or his decision
01:15:43.140 on that comes down.
01:15:44.160 But the point is,
01:15:45.100 and Andy was making this
01:15:45.980 over on his podcast,
01:15:47.940 they did that,
01:15:48.980 Mershon likely did that
01:15:49.980 because he knows
01:15:50.620 he's not going
01:15:51.160 Trump's way on it.
01:15:52.080 He's going to say,
01:15:52.760 yeah,
01:15:53.460 some things came in
01:15:54.580 that otherwise
01:15:55.060 shouldn't have come in
01:15:55.980 because the Supreme Court
01:15:56.760 said you also can't
01:15:57.620 use evidence
01:15:58.400 of what a president
01:15:59.500 did with his official acts
01:16:01.200 in any criminal case
01:16:02.260 against him.
01:16:03.360 But he,
01:16:03.820 Mershon could say,
01:16:04.420 yeah,
01:16:04.520 but that was,
01:16:04.880 it was immaterial.
01:16:05.740 Like,
01:16:05.940 we would have reached
01:16:07.080 the same judgment
01:16:07.580 without that stuff.
01:16:08.580 And his prediction is
01:16:09.900 that's exactly what
01:16:10.880 Mershon has decided to do.
01:16:12.380 He'll sort of give,
01:16:13.440 like,
01:16:13.760 lip service
01:16:14.260 to the immunity decision
01:16:15.480 and say,
01:16:16.000 that doesn't affect us.
01:16:17.160 And two days later,
01:16:17.840 he'll sentence
01:16:18.380 Donald J. Trump
01:16:19.160 to jail,
01:16:21.060 but then suspend
01:16:22.140 the sentence pending.
01:16:23.220 That's fascinating.
01:16:24.400 That's a fascinating take.
01:16:25.800 Just a low point
01:16:27.140 in our democracy
01:16:27.980 if that is in fact
01:16:29.060 what happens.
01:16:30.220 I will say,
01:16:30.700 just politically,
01:16:31.480 how people consume this
01:16:32.480 outside of all
01:16:33.420 the great details
01:16:34.280 that you laid out,
01:16:35.820 I think there's
01:16:36.220 a fundamental question
01:16:37.160 which is easily answered
01:16:38.980 by almost everybody
01:16:40.300 across the ideological
01:16:41.320 spectrum,
01:16:42.180 which is,
01:16:43.320 would these charges
01:16:44.200 have been brought?
01:16:45.480 Would he have been convicted
01:16:46.740 if he weren't running
01:16:48.340 for president?
01:16:49.300 And there is nobody,
01:16:50.740 no serious person
01:16:52.120 anywhere in this country
01:16:53.480 who thinks that they would.
01:16:55.500 I mean,
01:16:55.740 they had,
01:16:56.260 what,
01:16:56.420 15 years
01:16:57.040 to bring these record cases?
01:16:59.500 It wasn't until
01:17:00.020 he filed for re-election
01:17:01.100 that they actually
01:17:02.820 went out and filed them.
01:17:04.000 I mean,
01:17:04.200 that's why
01:17:05.340 these things
01:17:06.700 are more quickly
01:17:08.140 consumed by the American people
01:17:09.480 than Democratic politicians
01:17:10.640 would lead you to believe.
01:17:12.620 Mm-hmm.
01:17:14.340 I mean,
01:17:14.780 it's going to be
01:17:15.700 a dark day.
01:17:17.240 Meanwhile,
01:17:17.680 it's nothing but joy
01:17:18.320 on the Democrat side
01:17:19.160 and I want to get
01:17:19.660 to some of the joy
01:17:20.320 that they felt.
01:17:21.000 I mean,
01:17:21.140 when they say joy,
01:17:21.900 they mean joy,
01:17:23.320 they mean like joy,
01:17:24.840 joy at an inappropriate level.
01:17:27.840 I'll put it that way.
01:17:29.360 Listen,
01:17:29.700 you tell me
01:17:30.320 if you sense
01:17:30.900 any sort of
01:17:32.240 interesting somethings
01:17:33.740 in Dana Bash's language
01:17:35.880 last night
01:17:37.120 talking about
01:17:38.880 the Democrats
01:17:40.300 taking in
01:17:41.620 the moment
01:17:42.520 Colin Harris appeared
01:17:43.640 and she made some remarks.
01:17:45.020 Listen to how she described
01:17:46.380 their reaction.
01:17:47.920 The crowd is really
01:17:49.340 excited here.
01:17:50.780 It's electric
01:17:52.100 and not to mix metaphors
01:17:54.000 but it does feel like
01:17:55.640 something just got uncorked.
01:17:58.700 Like,
01:17:59.140 you know,
01:17:59.420 there's just a lot of pressure
01:18:00.680 and all of a sudden
01:18:02.080 everybody feels free
01:18:03.460 to express their joy
01:18:07.480 and there's no question
01:18:09.520 that this is a feeling
01:18:11.920 that Democrats
01:18:12.980 wanted to feel.
01:18:14.900 They were searching
01:18:15.900 for this kind of energy
01:18:18.140 and this kind of enthusiasm.
01:18:19.560 particularly,
01:18:21.940 well,
01:18:22.220 just in general
01:18:23.040 but particularly given
01:18:24.060 the Republican
01:18:25.180 that they're running against.
01:18:27.280 I'm sorry,
01:18:28.240 but...
01:18:29.480 I see what you're doing here.
01:18:31.340 You save these kind of things
01:18:32.420 for us,
01:18:32.900 don't you, Becky?
01:18:33.680 I do.
01:18:34.420 Try to get it.
01:18:35.040 I do.
01:18:35.880 I'm not giving this
01:18:36.800 as Charles C.W. Cook.
01:18:38.100 Smog,
01:18:41.020 what was your hot take on that?
01:18:42.560 So here's what I'm going to say.
01:18:44.640 What else can be said?
01:18:45.740 What can be said?
01:18:46.220 No.
01:18:46.980 I just love
01:18:48.080 on the night
01:18:48.680 that they were supposed
01:18:49.400 to be like,
01:18:50.000 we're sending off Joe.
01:18:51.300 Yeah.
01:18:52.000 That they're like,
01:18:52.480 well, he was a cork.
01:18:53.560 Yeah.
01:18:54.040 He had everything
01:18:54.900 stuck in the way.
01:18:55.600 He was in the way of our joy.
01:18:56.880 We're popping champagne
01:18:57.700 on his political grave.
01:18:58.840 It's just unbelievable.
01:19:03.380 I do want to say
01:19:04.200 something in my defense.
01:19:05.220 I did raise
01:19:06.160 the Jeffrey Toobin
01:19:07.260 masturbatory incident
01:19:08.500 with Victor Davis Hanson,
01:19:09.740 so there's really no bridge
01:19:11.080 I won't cross
01:19:11.840 to get the story of the day.
01:19:14.460 I'm glad to see
01:19:15.560 fair and balanced
01:19:16.240 all the way through.
01:19:17.400 Yeah.
01:19:17.800 Yeah.
01:19:18.100 See, I love it.
01:19:19.240 I respect you guys.
01:19:20.320 I respect you.
01:19:21.060 And I don't even have
01:19:21.880 to be drunk to do it.
01:19:22.840 I don't have to be drunk.
01:19:23.680 I do it stone cold sober.
01:19:26.360 Maybe the same cannot be said
01:19:27.840 for our potential next president.
01:19:29.640 Have you guys seen the memes
01:19:31.240 questioning whether Kamala Harris
01:19:33.080 is drunk or just a dunce?
01:19:37.200 Is she drunk or dumb?
01:19:39.440 Is she drunk or disorderly?
01:19:41.600 I don't know.
01:19:43.920 I'm of two minds on it.
01:19:45.240 I've seen some clips
01:19:46.040 where she's a little slurry.
01:19:47.740 I can see her.
01:19:49.440 And you're like, what?
01:19:51.460 But some of the evidence,
01:19:52.720 I was like, I don't know.
01:19:54.880 We put together the montage
01:19:56.040 of the clips
01:19:56.940 that have been circulating
01:19:58.000 as the alleged evidence
01:19:59.880 that she's a boozer.
01:20:02.180 And you guys, we report,
01:20:03.900 you decide.
01:20:04.420 Watch.
01:20:05.760 You know, we have to stay woke.
01:20:07.920 Like, everybody needs to be woke.
01:20:10.880 And you can talk about
01:20:13.200 if you're the wokest or woker,
01:20:15.240 but just stay more woke
01:20:16.740 than less woke.
01:20:18.580 Yeah.
01:20:18.980 There is this wonderful word
01:20:20.360 that has a great meaning,
01:20:21.640 and it's called hypothesis.
01:20:25.180 Which means
01:20:26.080 that you have an idea
01:20:28.600 and then it is well accepted.
01:20:31.960 It will be tested.
01:20:32.880 It has Wi-Fi
01:20:34.400 and even USB outlets
01:20:37.520 next to every seat.
01:20:40.040 I mean, come on, imagine.
01:20:41.700 You can charge your phone
01:20:42.960 on your way home from work.
01:20:44.280 That's good stuff.
01:20:46.800 I'm pointing to the direction
01:20:47.940 of what I believe is the Capitol.
01:20:52.060 He's going to speak in a minute,
01:20:54.280 but there's a lot of love
01:20:56.980 in this room for our president.
01:20:59.340 Give us a hard time sometimes,
01:21:00.800 and she would say to us,
01:21:02.220 I don't know what's wrong
01:21:03.120 with you young people.
01:21:04.560 You think you just fell out
01:21:05.780 of a coconut tree?
01:21:08.140 I was about to go round and round.
01:21:11.380 Just say, hey, Joe.
01:21:13.360 Instead of saying, no, we can't,
01:21:15.420 let's say, yes, we can.
01:21:18.740 I call myself a joyful warrior.
01:21:22.740 Right?
01:21:23.840 Never let anyone
01:21:24.880 take your joy from you.
01:21:29.300 I can't say, you know,
01:21:31.420 I'm not a doctor or whatever,
01:21:33.300 I guess, or an officer
01:21:34.780 on the side of the road,
01:21:35.780 making a walk of line on this
01:21:37.040 or a substance abuse counselor.
01:21:38.860 I just know when I have
01:21:39.860 like eight or nine bourbons,
01:21:41.100 I think everything I'm saying
01:21:42.320 is really profound,
01:21:43.520 smart and funny.
01:21:45.480 And like, if I were being videoed,
01:21:47.440 I'm probably the only person laughing.
01:21:49.320 Yeah.
01:21:50.100 And I bet it looks a lot like that.
01:21:52.640 I don't know, man.
01:21:53.820 I'm also, I'm also not a doctor,
01:21:56.420 but I think she's dumb.
01:21:58.940 I really do.
01:22:00.740 I think that's the diagnosis is stupid.
01:22:03.720 There's also sort of like
01:22:04.800 a stoner mentality to her.
01:22:06.960 A little bit.
01:22:07.380 Like the, um,
01:22:08.540 maybe a gummy.
01:22:09.320 That's good stuff.
01:22:10.360 Like, yeah,
01:22:10.920 like that's like a high schooler
01:22:12.120 with munchies at the Taco Bell
01:22:13.380 drive-in window
01:22:14.240 at three in the morning.
01:22:15.120 You're like, listen, man,
01:22:15.960 there's like,
01:22:16.480 there's a USB charger in your car.
01:22:18.260 Oh, it's amazing.
01:22:21.760 It's bad stuff.
01:22:23.260 It's true.
01:22:23.820 Like, you're going to hear
01:22:25.280 in a minute.
01:22:26.140 Yeah.
01:22:26.680 Yeah.
01:22:27.080 Okay.
01:22:29.620 So it's an ongoing problem.
01:22:32.120 There's no way she's drunk
01:22:33.020 at all these public appearances.
01:22:35.200 Somebody would notice.
01:22:36.660 Work for the Kennedys.
01:22:37.660 But she does have like a wine bar
01:22:38.300 named after her or something like that.
01:22:40.180 I don't know.
01:22:40.400 Like a kind of a theme, whatever.
01:22:42.840 Um, here she is in Pennsylvania
01:22:43.980 this weekend
01:22:44.660 and this one made the rounds.
01:22:46.560 People are like,
01:22:47.320 what is she saying?
01:22:48.860 And as you'll see
01:22:49.900 in the second soundbite we'll play,
01:22:51.340 it's what we call a pattern.
01:22:54.080 Okay.
01:22:54.400 Listen to her in Pennsylvania
01:22:55.980 this past weekend
01:22:56.620 talking about democracy.
01:22:59.220 Our election is about understanding
01:23:01.440 the importance of this beautiful country of ours
01:23:04.700 in terms of what we stand for
01:23:06.460 around the globe as a democracy.
01:23:09.940 As a democracy.
01:23:11.940 We know there's a duality
01:23:14.320 to the nature of democracy.
01:23:16.460 Come on.
01:23:17.120 On the one hand,
01:23:18.520 incredible strength
01:23:20.300 when it is intact,
01:23:23.120 incredibly strong
01:23:24.740 and incredibly fragile.
01:23:31.700 It's just,
01:23:32.660 you make a good point.
01:23:34.880 She can't be drunk
01:23:35.820 at every single one of these things,
01:23:37.220 but she can be dumb
01:23:38.200 at every single one of these things.
01:23:39.500 That's the control.
01:23:41.880 That's the control.
01:23:43.120 She reminds me of like,
01:23:45.060 oh, you got more?
01:23:45.760 She's not done.
01:23:46.720 Hold it, hold it.
01:23:47.580 She's not done.
01:23:48.380 Watch.
01:23:49.000 She loves this one.
01:23:49.920 The nature of democracy is,
01:23:52.740 there are two sides to it
01:23:55.080 in terms of the nature of it.
01:23:56.440 There's a duality.
01:23:57.500 There's a duality
01:23:58.720 to the nature of democracy.
01:23:59.960 When it's intact,
01:24:03.580 oh, it's so strong.
01:24:06.540 And it's very fragile.
01:24:10.340 The nature of democracy,
01:24:11.420 there's a duality to it.
01:24:12.480 It has two sides to it.
01:24:14.340 Democracy,
01:24:15.060 there's a duality to it.
01:24:16.580 On the one hand,
01:24:18.400 a democracy,
01:24:19.820 when it is intact,
01:24:21.320 is very strong.
01:24:23.340 On the other hand,
01:24:25.060 and here is the duality,
01:24:26.260 democracy is also
01:24:27.620 extremely fragile.
01:24:29.160 It will only be as strong
01:24:31.340 as the willingness
01:24:32.300 of its people
01:24:33.280 to fight for it.
01:24:36.240 I love how she says,
01:24:40.620 and here's the duality part.
01:24:41.900 And here's the duality
01:24:42.840 because it's the second part.
01:24:44.160 Like, you know,
01:24:45.040 it's a really good
01:24:45.980 rhetorical device
01:24:46.820 when you have to explain it
01:24:47.920 that much.
01:24:48.720 She's not like in the full act.
01:24:51.120 Each and every one,
01:24:52.160 it's like she's thinking it
01:24:53.420 through on the fly.
01:24:54.580 It's a very simple concept.
01:24:56.260 It's a pretty simple concept.
01:24:57.880 It's acting.
01:24:58.920 That's exactly right.
01:24:59.660 That's her acting, right?
01:25:00.740 That's her fakeness.
01:25:02.620 Yep.
01:25:03.020 Yep.
01:25:03.220 No, that's exactly right.
01:25:04.140 I mean, she reminds me
01:25:04.980 of like the shittiest
01:25:05.820 motivational speaker
01:25:06.780 that's ever addressed
01:25:07.660 a junior high
01:25:08.380 anywhere in this country.
01:25:09.600 Yeah.
01:25:10.060 That and a cross between
01:25:11.260 like a substitute teacher
01:25:12.320 who has more degrees
01:25:14.400 than a thermometer
01:25:15.060 but can't hold down a job.
01:25:16.680 Like, the combination
01:25:17.760 of those two things
01:25:18.800 is I think where you get
01:25:20.060 like the duality.
01:25:21.000 Maybe mix in a tip-top
01:25:22.340 or a Chardonnay
01:25:23.100 and then you got like
01:25:23.920 the full perfect.
01:25:24.620 She just,
01:25:26.640 like there is no wisdom there.
01:25:28.960 That's the thing
01:25:29.500 that's so impossible
01:25:31.480 about her becoming president.
01:25:33.300 You're like,
01:25:33.620 there's no wisdom.
01:25:35.380 There's no depth of thinking.
01:25:36.860 This person's
01:25:37.520 not fast on her feet
01:25:39.160 and whatever she tries to use
01:25:41.220 as a stirring rhetorical device
01:25:43.280 is false,
01:25:45.100 empty,
01:25:45.500 and didn't work on me
01:25:47.280 the first 10 times
01:25:48.320 you tried it.
01:25:49.040 But remember,
01:25:51.960 remember the first three years
01:25:53.920 of Biden's administration.
01:25:55.060 She was a punchline
01:25:56.400 for everybody
01:25:57.140 because of this
01:25:58.140 and everybody was like,
01:25:59.080 oh no,
01:25:59.560 Joe Biden's not going anywhere
01:26:00.720 because his insurance policy
01:26:02.180 is his vice president.
01:26:03.540 Nobody thinks
01:26:04.320 his vice president
01:26:05.140 can actually do that job.
01:26:06.920 I mean,
01:26:07.360 that's what everybody
01:26:08.220 talked about
01:26:09.240 before she got the nod
01:26:11.660 to be their nominee.
01:26:12.780 And now all of a sudden,
01:26:13.900 everybody has to be
01:26:15.200 one of her yes-men staffers.
01:26:17.860 The entire press
01:26:18.740 has to be her yes-person staffer
01:26:20.520 who listens to that bullshit
01:26:22.420 over and over again
01:26:23.400 and is like,
01:26:23.820 oh yeah,
01:26:24.760 Kamala,
01:26:25.460 that sounds so smart.
01:26:27.080 You killed it, boss.
01:26:28.080 You know what I mean?
01:26:28.700 Everything that was once absurd
01:26:30.220 that they laughed at
01:26:31.040 is now treated as profound.
01:26:32.680 Yeah.
01:26:32.900 Right.
01:26:33.340 Yeah.
01:26:33.660 And the few staffers
01:26:35.000 that are left
01:26:35.560 because she ran through
01:26:36.460 about 10 dozen of them
01:26:38.140 the first year and a half.
01:26:39.540 There were multiple stories
01:26:41.260 written about
01:26:41.900 that specific thing.
01:26:43.400 Yeah.
01:26:43.780 That she just couldn't hold,
01:26:44.780 like nobody wanted to work for her.
01:26:45.960 She was insane.
01:26:46.840 She had these like
01:26:47.560 circular logic reasoning machines
01:26:49.560 and kept getting pissed off
01:26:51.020 that she was put in a position
01:26:52.200 of having to defend
01:26:53.100 the indefensible
01:26:54.440 and all these things
01:26:55.580 that nobody liked to work for.
01:26:57.340 And they're trying to make
01:26:58.300 this lady president
01:26:59.100 of the United States.
01:26:59.600 What a scary proposition.
01:27:00.900 Yeah.
01:27:01.100 Right.
01:27:01.540 It's why Charlie Spearing
01:27:02.500 had his book.
01:27:04.620 Yeah, Charlie Spearing.
01:27:05.340 He's been great.
01:27:06.280 Wait, can I say this?
01:27:08.000 They,
01:27:09.180 now we've learned
01:27:10.100 over the past week
01:27:11.120 that that Lester Holt interview
01:27:12.880 she gave
01:27:13.440 was really jarring for her.
01:27:15.520 She was shaken up
01:27:17.040 by how poorly she did
01:27:18.940 where he's,
01:27:20.360 she's like,
01:27:20.780 we've been to the border
01:27:21.880 and he, to his credit,
01:27:23.020 is like,
01:27:23.260 you've never been to the border
01:27:24.160 and I've never been to Europe.
01:27:26.620 What's your point?
01:27:28.100 And it was disastrous
01:27:29.820 and she had,
01:27:30.900 she got criticized roundly for it.
01:27:32.260 And apparently,
01:27:32.940 according to the reporting,
01:27:33.660 she went underground
01:27:35.420 after that.
01:27:36.000 She was very shaken
01:27:37.020 by how poorly she did
01:27:38.380 and the reaction to her
01:27:39.500 and became obsessed
01:27:41.240 with not repeating that mistake,
01:27:43.300 not giving interviews,
01:27:44.900 was worried about
01:27:45.960 what Fox News
01:27:47.000 might be saying about her,
01:27:49.000 got like,
01:27:49.520 just very like,
01:27:50.620 oh, you know,
01:27:51.780 I,
01:27:52.420 my career requires me
01:27:54.240 to be quiet.
01:27:55.660 And she was relatively quiet
01:27:57.940 after that point.
01:27:58.980 You know,
01:27:59.180 we saw her doing
01:27:59.900 a couple things
01:28:00.460 that probably seemed
01:28:01.260 like they'd be harmless,
01:28:02.120 like going to the Space Museum
01:28:03.320 and then they weren't
01:28:04.740 because she got dumb
01:28:05.680 and said weird things.
01:28:06.540 But now they've learned
01:28:09.200 their lesson,
01:28:10.160 right?
01:28:10.480 She's out there
01:28:11.220 and she understands
01:28:11.920 she cannot do it
01:28:12.960 and they understand that too.
01:28:14.900 Everyone's running cover
01:28:15.900 and the few times
01:28:17.380 she's spoken out,
01:28:18.160 like that duality remark
01:28:19.140 was the other day.
01:28:20.380 You get a glimpse
01:28:21.560 into the real her,
01:28:23.860 like the,
01:28:24.200 not the curated version
01:28:25.120 we keep getting forced on us
01:28:26.400 by the teleprompter
01:28:27.540 and at these,
01:28:28.840 you know,
01:28:29.340 events like the,
01:28:30.260 the campaign events
01:28:31.140 and I'm sure at the convention
01:28:31.960 on Thursday night.
01:28:33.520 You want to talk about duality?
01:28:35.040 There's your duality
01:28:36.580 right there.
01:28:38.960 That's right.
01:28:39.760 I mean, look,
01:28:40.200 I think the one thing
01:28:41.420 that you can have
01:28:42.280 some confidence in
01:28:43.860 is running for president
01:28:45.240 with the notable exception
01:28:46.160 of 2020
01:28:46.660 when they just kept
01:28:47.380 Joe Biden in the basement
01:28:48.200 and blamed it on a,
01:28:49.000 on COVID
01:28:50.080 is at some point
01:28:53.420 you're going to have
01:28:54.340 a revelation
01:28:54.960 of who this person is,
01:28:56.400 right?
01:28:56.860 Her,
01:28:57.680 she has a confined timeline
01:28:59.240 for that.
01:28:59.660 Usually that plays out
01:29:00.580 in a primary
01:29:01.620 and the beginnings
01:29:02.580 of a general election.
01:29:03.500 She's trying to do
01:29:04.580 all this in 90 days
01:29:05.920 but I think in 90 days
01:29:07.480 it is impossible
01:29:08.520 to entirely keep that out
01:29:10.160 because that's who she is,
01:29:11.340 Megan.
01:29:11.900 She has no business
01:29:14.140 running for president
01:29:15.100 of the United States.
01:29:16.060 She has no business
01:29:16.680 being in the office
01:29:17.480 that she's currently in.
01:29:18.560 Yeah.
01:29:18.720 Right.
01:29:19.140 Right?
01:29:19.440 And that,
01:29:19.880 that will come out
01:29:21.700 with just any exposure.
01:29:24.500 Right.
01:29:24.900 I think.
01:29:25.500 Right.
01:29:25.720 Some people just aren't
01:29:26.660 cut out for that line of work
01:29:28.120 and that's why
01:29:28.980 she didn't make it to Iowa.
01:29:31.280 She's not Obama.
01:29:32.360 She thinks like,
01:29:33.460 I can be Obama.
01:29:34.800 I can be just like him.
01:29:35.780 I can be president.
01:29:36.900 Even if she becomes president,
01:29:38.700 she's not Obama.
01:29:40.160 She's not capable
01:29:41.080 of doing what he's able to do.
01:29:43.400 She just doesn't have
01:29:44.020 the skill set.
01:29:45.100 I mean,
01:29:45.280 maybe,
01:29:45.720 you know,
01:29:45.980 she could be an attorney
01:29:47.280 or something in California
01:29:48.520 but like president
01:29:49.900 of the United States
01:29:51.120 from this woman,
01:29:52.500 I just,
01:29:53.000 can you imagine
01:29:53.900 on an international stage
01:29:56.100 the laughing stock
01:29:57.400 our country will be
01:29:58.640 behind her back?
01:30:00.160 You know that,
01:30:01.380 you know,
01:30:01.680 these world leaders,
01:30:02.960 they have text messages too.
01:30:04.720 They send videos
01:30:05.820 to each other
01:30:06.420 and laugh about it
01:30:07.220 just like everybody else.
01:30:08.660 You know,
01:30:09.080 they send videos of her
01:30:10.300 doing exactly
01:30:11.240 what you showed your audience
01:30:12.400 and they're laughing at her.
01:30:13.900 They'd be laughing at us.
01:30:15.320 Yeah.
01:30:15.620 And we're going to get
01:30:17.220 a lot more just like it
01:30:18.160 if she wins.
01:30:18.880 They're not going to be able
01:30:19.320 to keep her behind
01:30:19.840 closed doors forever.
01:30:20.600 There's just too many moments
01:30:21.440 as president
01:30:21.940 for you to ad lib
01:30:23.100 or go off script
01:30:23.940 and that's what's going to happen
01:30:25.080 if she wins.
01:30:26.080 I mean,
01:30:26.220 it could be fun for us media people
01:30:27.380 but not so much
01:30:28.500 for the country.
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01:31:32.880 In his decision
01:31:33.960 over turning Roe v. Wade,
01:31:35.840 as you heard earlier tonight,
01:31:37.960 the United States Supreme Court
01:31:39.340 majority wrote the following,
01:31:41.300 quote,
01:31:43.460 women
01:31:43.820 are not without
01:31:45.280 electrical,
01:31:46.120 not allowed,
01:31:47.380 not without
01:31:48.200 electoral
01:31:48.780 or political power.
01:31:56.360 No kidding.
01:31:57.360 The Supreme Court
01:32:03.740 took electricity
01:32:04.480 away from you guys?
01:32:06.080 We don't use it.
01:32:07.780 This whole studio
01:32:08.500 is run by candle.
01:32:12.740 They just have a guy
01:32:13.900 on a wheel machine
01:32:15.200 just pedaling
01:32:15.920 in the back.
01:32:16.400 Yeah.
01:32:17.520 What I want to know-
01:32:18.540 It's just a reminder,
01:32:19.740 right?
01:32:20.000 It's a reminder
01:32:20.740 of like-
01:32:22.120 It's a reminder.
01:32:23.320 It's a reminder
01:32:24.140 of how incompetent
01:32:25.480 the people surrounding
01:32:26.440 Joe Biden are as well
01:32:27.640 that you could be
01:32:28.760 his speechwriter
01:32:29.520 at this point
01:32:30.200 in his presidency
01:32:30.900 and not know,
01:32:32.380 just instinctively know
01:32:33.400 when you're writing,
01:32:34.080 all right,
01:32:34.400 electoral,
01:32:35.300 that's-
01:32:35.820 He can't do that word.
01:32:36.780 Too many syllables.
01:32:37.240 He can't do that word.
01:32:38.240 It's totally right.
01:32:39.040 I mean,
01:32:39.160 I've written a lot of speeches
01:32:40.400 for people over the years.
01:32:41.780 Like,
01:32:41.980 you have to have some idea
01:32:43.400 of the capability-
01:32:44.400 Intuitively.
01:32:45.040 Of the person
01:32:45.860 that you're writing for.
01:32:46.880 You know,
01:32:47.000 I mean,
01:32:47.240 if they're not
01:32:47.800 perfectly eloquent,
01:32:49.540 you don't throw like
01:32:50.240 seven syllable words
01:32:51.380 in there back to back
01:32:52.520 and try to figure it out.
01:32:53.420 For him,
01:32:54.140 I guess electoral is-
01:32:55.920 I feel like he stumbled
01:32:56.860 on that one before.
01:32:58.100 I think that's not my first time
01:32:59.400 seeing him stumble on that.
01:33:00.420 And insurrection
01:33:01.000 shouldn't be in there either,
01:33:02.040 FYI.
01:33:03.100 Yeah,
01:33:03.500 right.
01:33:04.160 It's the-
01:33:04.900 Our reaction
01:33:06.980 to that
01:33:08.500 is-
01:33:09.500 was kind of reflected,
01:33:10.560 like,
01:33:10.820 you could kind of feel-
01:33:11.880 I tweeted this out last night
01:33:13.200 and I stand by it.
01:33:14.540 When Joe Biden sat down,
01:33:15.760 I was like,
01:33:16.340 that was it?
01:33:18.340 That was-
01:33:18.840 Yeah.
01:33:19.700 That's what he got
01:33:20.500 in exchange for giving up
01:33:21.620 a presidential nomination.
01:33:22.540 It was like,
01:33:23.840 yay,
01:33:25.360 Joe.
01:33:26.640 But it wasn't really
01:33:27.900 that great.
01:33:29.560 Like,
01:33:29.860 the reception I'm talking about
01:33:31.160 by the audience,
01:33:31.980 I didn't feel the love.
01:33:33.360 Like,
01:33:33.780 I didn't feel like they hated him.
01:33:34.800 I wasn't like,
01:33:35.380 oh,
01:33:35.540 no one's clapping.
01:33:36.600 But I just kind of expected more.
01:33:38.740 I thought we'd see tons
01:33:39.600 of people crying.
01:33:42.160 There was a thought
01:33:43.140 with Chris Coons
01:33:43.860 before he
01:33:44.840 took the stage,
01:33:46.340 Biden.
01:33:46.580 And this kind of
01:33:48.200 is representative
01:33:48.800 of how I felt
01:33:50.640 watching the audience
01:33:51.440 all night.
01:33:51.900 Watch this.
01:33:52.300 It's out of love.
01:33:53.020 On behalf of our
01:33:54.420 Democratic Party,
01:33:56.120 for your loyalty
01:33:57.760 in fighting
01:33:58.520 for our
01:33:59.280 Democratic values,
01:34:00.840 we thank you.
01:34:07.340 And on behalf
01:34:08.400 of Delaware,
01:34:09.720 thank you,
01:34:10.440 Joe,
01:34:10.740 and God bless you.
01:34:12.200 We love you.
01:34:14.120 We love
01:34:15.200 Joe.
01:34:17.480 We love Joe.
01:34:20.620 We love Joe.
01:34:23.300 We love Joe.
01:34:29.260 It's just so forced.
01:34:31.040 With a woman
01:34:31.500 doing the side-eye
01:34:32.420 right at the end.
01:34:33.220 Yes.
01:34:33.500 Come on,
01:34:34.240 it's even too much for me.
01:34:35.880 Yeah,
01:34:36.160 it was a retirement party.
01:34:38.380 I mean,
01:34:38.560 they did everything
01:34:39.240 short of
01:34:39.760 handing them
01:34:40.060 the gold watch.
01:34:41.440 You know?
01:34:41.980 Yes.
01:34:42.380 I was thinking this
01:34:43.600 when I was watching it.
01:34:44.220 The exact same thing
01:34:45.000 that you're bringing up,
01:34:45.920 Megan,
01:34:46.440 is this was supposed
01:34:47.860 to be like,
01:34:48.600 you know,
01:34:48.880 some like reverent moment
01:34:50.420 and like capstoning
01:34:52.240 this remarkable
01:34:53.340 political career
01:34:54.580 and expressing gratitude.
01:34:56.020 But again,
01:34:56.560 like Holmes Ratchett,
01:34:57.160 the cynicism just
01:34:58.160 seeped through
01:34:59.700 all of it
01:35:00.320 where it seems so fake.
01:35:01.140 I thought when I was
01:35:02.300 watching that
01:35:02.740 of the moment
01:35:03.320 when George H.W. Bush
01:35:05.360 passed away
01:35:06.200 and then you saw
01:35:06.940 Bob Dole was brought in
01:35:08.500 to the rotunda
01:35:09.360 where George H.W. Bush
01:35:10.660 was in waiting
01:35:11.200 and he had an aide
01:35:12.300 lift him
01:35:12.760 so that he could salute him
01:35:13.780 and you had
01:35:14.580 more reverence
01:35:15.700 shown by one person
01:35:16.940 than a room of
01:35:17.620 10,000 people
01:35:18.700 were capable of
01:35:19.560 because that was just
01:35:20.620 fake.
01:35:22.080 It was just fake.
01:35:23.460 Yeah.
01:35:23.660 They just don't care.
01:35:24.980 Right?
01:35:25.400 I mean,
01:35:25.700 it's on to the next.
01:35:27.660 It really is.
01:35:28.280 It's all a game to them.
01:35:29.800 It's on to the next.
01:35:30.840 And as an aside,
01:35:33.460 wouldn't you have loved
01:35:34.440 to be a fly on the wall
01:35:35.680 when someone came in
01:35:37.500 and had to brief
01:35:38.300 the sitting president
01:35:39.400 of the United States
01:35:40.060 of his speaking slot?
01:35:42.080 I mean,
01:35:43.000 when Richard Ben Kramer
01:35:45.180 profiled Joe Biden
01:35:46.520 in the 1988 race
01:35:49.320 and what it takes.
01:35:50.560 It's a great book.
01:35:51.440 I love it.
01:35:51.920 I recommend it to Smug
01:35:52.960 and now he recommends
01:35:53.620 it to everybody else.
01:35:55.900 I just don't think
01:35:57.780 that he could have
01:35:58.900 imagined that Biden's
01:36:00.220 career would end
01:36:01.100 on a Monday night
01:36:02.100 after 1130 p.m.
01:36:03.660 Yeah.
01:36:04.180 Oh, God, that is true.
01:36:05.200 I just I just don't
01:36:06.520 I don't think you could
01:36:07.360 have ever 50 years
01:36:08.280 in politics
01:36:08.880 and that's what he gets.
01:36:10.560 He did it to himself.
01:36:12.020 He really did it to himself.
01:36:12.980 He couldn't even really
01:36:13.160 get the chant going.
01:36:15.060 You can't like,
01:36:15.620 I know we love Joe
01:36:17.460 with the eye roll.
01:36:19.120 It was so telling,
01:36:20.680 although not to the people
01:36:22.060 on MSNBC who
01:36:23.280 took to close the show
01:36:24.840 as we began it
01:36:25.600 with the fakeness
01:36:26.920 of what we witnessed
01:36:27.840 last night,
01:36:29.040 you know,
01:36:29.480 it gavel to gavel.
01:36:31.120 Here's Rachel Maddow.
01:36:33.220 I just feel like
01:36:34.480 in America,
01:36:35.260 in my 51 years
01:36:36.820 of American life,
01:36:37.780 I don't know
01:36:39.460 of another
01:36:40.360 big,
01:36:42.260 civic,
01:36:43.720 earnest,
01:36:45.060 heartfelt,
01:36:45.840 emotional expression
01:36:46.840 of thanks.
01:36:48.200 You know,
01:36:48.880 that we congratulate
01:36:49.780 one another.
01:36:50.580 We have parades
01:36:51.620 for heroes
01:36:52.240 and we celebrate
01:36:53.460 people's victories.
01:36:54.280 But to celebration
01:36:55.420 of thanks
01:36:57.400 and,
01:36:58.640 you know,
01:36:59.220 we appreciate
01:37:00.540 and love you
01:37:01.300 for your civic virtue
01:37:02.540 and for what you've done
01:37:03.600 to our country.
01:37:04.500 I mean,
01:37:04.880 since we've had,
01:37:06.300 since we have had
01:37:07.860 parades welcoming home
01:37:10.300 people who have fought
01:37:11.460 in war
01:37:12.060 and it has been
01:37:13.260 generations
01:37:13.980 since we have done that,
01:37:15.180 I don't know
01:37:15.600 anything else like that.
01:37:17.160 Oh my God,
01:37:18.280 you guys.
01:37:18.780 I don't even know
01:37:19.880 where to be.
01:37:20.060 You know,
01:37:20.340 they still have those parades.
01:37:21.720 You just don't show up.
01:37:22.720 No,
01:37:22.880 she shows up.
01:37:23.500 She's just holding
01:37:24.040 a picket sun.
01:37:24.980 Yeah.
01:37:25.860 Yeah.
01:37:27.220 I mean,
01:37:28.000 it's just not watching it,
01:37:30.500 right?
01:37:30.840 I mean,
01:37:31.140 that's,
01:37:31.620 it's this narrative building
01:37:32.660 that happens
01:37:33.260 in the left,
01:37:34.240 on the left,
01:37:34.960 in their media apparatchik
01:37:36.540 that is a narrative building
01:37:38.520 about what you're seeing
01:37:40.620 that you didn't actually see.
01:37:42.960 Totally.
01:37:43.480 Yeah.
01:37:44.100 Right?
01:37:44.500 And it's even more jarring
01:37:46.620 if you were,
01:37:47.720 you know,
01:37:48.060 one of the few
01:37:48.940 that actually had to sit
01:37:50.040 through the entire 45 minutes
01:37:51.620 to get to the end of that
01:37:52.480 and being like,
01:37:53.500 well,
01:37:53.740 what you've seen here
01:37:54.720 is just an outpouring
01:37:55.820 of love and support,
01:37:57.000 which is not what it was,
01:37:58.260 right?
01:37:58.600 It just,
01:37:59.100 just wasn't.
01:38:00.240 No,
01:38:00.400 it's,
01:38:00.640 it's improv fiction.
01:38:02.280 Most people watch improv comedy.
01:38:04.080 Democrats every single day
01:38:05.620 do improv fiction
01:38:06.640 and some of them
01:38:07.760 do it better than others.
01:38:09.800 It's the opposite
01:38:10.640 of what they normally do,
01:38:11.840 which is when we see a man,
01:38:13.660 they tell us it's a woman
01:38:14.720 and we should ignore our eyes.
01:38:16.240 And now we have them
01:38:18.120 doing the opposite.
01:38:19.500 We,
01:38:19.780 we see a lack of enthusiasm
01:38:21.040 and they tell us
01:38:21.740 we saw enthusiasm.
01:38:23.580 I've got to end on this one.
01:38:25.300 You speak of Rachel Maddow.
01:38:26.880 She's normally at the protest
01:38:27.900 with a placard.
01:38:28.840 Could be,
01:38:29.460 she shouldn't try that
01:38:30.360 in Chicago
01:38:31.140 because look what happened
01:38:32.520 to this guy.
01:38:33.160 Oh,
01:38:33.920 they're treating Joe Biden
01:38:59.960 like this.
01:39:02.380 This is supposed to be
01:39:03.460 retirement party.
01:39:06.820 This is another
01:39:07.940 well-raising young man
01:39:09.380 out for civic duty.
01:39:11.820 The final indignity.
01:39:14.500 Operative word being duty.
01:39:16.100 Well done.
01:39:17.860 You guys,
01:39:19.340 a pleasure.
01:39:20.400 That was a special one,
01:39:21.380 you guys.
01:39:21.680 That was a special one.
01:39:22.480 Thank you.
01:39:22.960 It was so good.
01:39:24.040 It's so good to see you again,
01:39:25.180 Megan.
01:39:25.440 We'll do this as many times
01:39:26.740 as you want to.
01:39:27.340 We always have such a blast.
01:39:29.380 Awesome.
01:39:30.040 TV continued.
01:39:31.500 We'll see you guys soon.
01:39:32.400 And don't forget to check out
01:39:34.460 the guys on their platform.
01:39:35.900 See you.
01:39:36.120 It's youtube.com.
01:39:37.500 What is it?
01:39:38.060 Slash.
01:39:38.420 I had it in front of her.
01:39:39.140 Now I can't see it.
01:39:41.440 Ruthless podcast.
01:39:42.200 There we go.
01:39:43.040 Tonight,
01:39:43.320 we're going to hear from
01:39:44.240 the Obamas,
01:39:45.180 Barack and Michelle,
01:39:45.780 as well as second gentleman,
01:39:47.020 Doug,
01:39:47.880 as well as Chuck Schumer.
01:39:49.040 We'll bring you all the highlights
01:39:49.960 and lowlights tomorrow.
01:39:50.780 See you then.
01:39:51.100 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show.
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01:39:56.840 and no fear.